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jagouar

05-14-10, 01:34 PM

Yeah I NEVER buy the premium channels.... I am right now paying for HBO ONLY for the pacific. Its last episode is sunday and I will be dropping HBO as that night. Netflix covers starz for me (although not in HD)..... I would be pissed if I lost Spartacus but I have no interest in watching anything else on starz.

I know these are not HD but the streaming versions are getting better and better (nbc olympics and march madness on demand for live events) and I have no doubt they will soon be on par with the broadcast version..... and probably one day will look better (because there is only so much sat space to compress all those channels into where internet bandwidth is constantly growing). They can already do pretty amazing things with movies (zune video and vudu can stream 1080p and it really is very close to bluray quality). ESPN3 already covers most of their channels so a single one like espnu isnt that important anymore. In some ways its vastly better because you can show all the live events in one place and not have to deal with only being able to show 4 things at once (or however many channels espn has these days). I have noticed a few times that there were 15-20 live events on at a single time (college basketball season).

elmina

05-20-10, 10:59 AM

I'm actually considering suspending D* and going without TV other than what can be streamed / dl'ed off the net. Currently looking into PlayOn that connects with the Xbox. I watched Family Guy last night and the quality wasn't too bad. I'll probably re-erect the antenna to at least get CBS and FOX OTA.

We'll see how long we last. We're not pulling the plug until after Lost. ;)
I noticed last night that KRHD is broadcasting in HD at 40.1 OTA. From here Emerald Forest I now get reliably (so far!) KBTX at 3.1, KMAY at 23.1, KAMU at 12.1, and KYLE at 28.1, as well as KRHD, all in HD, using a second (effectively third) floor attic antenna--even though the trees around the house have all sprouted their leaves. As the neighbor's trees are now beginning to block out my D* dish, giving me the dreaded "searching for signal" too often now, I may just dump D* altogether, rather than pay to have a service person come out and move the dish, saving both the service call and the steadily increasing monthly fee.

AggiePhil

05-20-10, 11:25 AM

Is there any way yet for me to watch KBTX in HD? I have Dish and live in CS.

Jonnyb99

05-20-10, 11:33 AM

Is there any way yet for me to watch KBTX in HD? I have Dish and live in CS.

I'm not sure if Dish offers it via satellite, but you can get an OTA antenna and you should be in good shape. KBTX's signal is pretty strong, so you may only need a small indoor antenna. Try one of the cheap ones from Wal-Mart first and see how that works.

OTAhead

05-20-10, 11:57 AM

Big/Lots has a pretty good little rabbit ear/UHF loop antenna for only $3.

Give it a whirl, and even if it doesn't work, your not out a lot of $$$.

Just a suggestion...

AggiePhil

05-20-10, 02:34 PM

Can you record shows that come in OTA onto the Dish DVR?

Jonnyb99

05-22-10, 04:45 PM

Can you record shows that come in OTA onto the Dish DVR?

I assume you can if it has an OTA tuner built in. My HD DVR from D* allows me to record OTA channels.

FOX44CE

05-26-10, 04:04 PM

KYLE Off Air:

Kyle was off the air from 0800 to 1330 on Monday, May 24th due to a broken power pole at the Lott microwave repeater site. Electricians had to remove the old pole and populate the new one with all new meter and fuse boxes and conduit.

raymond__hi

06-03-10, 10:32 PM

Since the storm went through last night I haven't been able to pick up the channel 44-1 or 44-2 OTA. Anybody else not getting 44-1 or 44-2? I get every other channel in Waco and 44 is out in both OTA tuner boxes.

FOX44CE

06-04-10, 09:51 AM

KWKT is operating at full licensed power and having no issues.

cast&pray

06-11-10, 08:04 AM

Found last night that Suddenlink added 3 new HD channels; VS, TBS, and Golf. Scanning through the guide, it looks as if VS has a very limited amount of actual HD programming. All the golf that's worth watching is already in HD on other networks. Don't know much about TBS. Where's the CW in HD?

jagouar

06-11-10, 02:17 PM

vs doesn't have a whole lot..... mostly sports in hd which they do not have much of atm.

I agree with you on golf channel..... only watched it once when one of the tourny's ran over their time so they finished it on golf channel

The CW will come whenever kbtx gets off their ass and upgrades. I'm not expecting it anytime soon.

FOX44CE

06-22-10, 12:14 PM

Power failure at KWKT Waco studio at 11:45 AM, Monday, June 21st.
Generator failed at 12:30 PM. Backup power system batteries died at 1:00 PM.
KWKT & KYLE were off-air from 1:00 PM to 3:02 PM when power was restored.
Failure of KYLE HD switching delay caused FOX to be SD on KYLE Monday night.

Repaired the system this morning and KYLE will be HD in Prime tonight (Tuesday).

Jonnyb99

06-22-10, 12:29 PM

vs doesn't have a whole lot..... mostly sports in hd which they do not have much of atm.

Yeah, but they show Bloodsport all the time :)

alton987

06-27-10, 11:55 AM

Does anyone else here use Windows Media Center to pickup channel 6 KCEN? They did some equipment upgrades last week and it is no longer working in Media Center. I did some digging with TSReader (http://www.tsreader.com/tsreader/index.html) i I think the issue is in there data stream. It reports that the channel is broadcasting on channel 50. I have called the station and emailed but haven't got much fixed.

http://i45.tinypic.com/11jp2yd.jpg

Does anyone have other any suggestions?

Trip in VA

06-27-10, 12:03 PM

Their TSID information is correct. The station does not transmit its channel number along with the TSID, only the TSID itself. That channel information you've circled comes from a list internal to TSReader and is very, VERY outdated.

What has changed, however, is their PID structure. Note in the left-hand panel how Program 4 has 0x0041 and 0x0044 assigned to it. The last TSReader data I saw from KCEN had those streams on 0x0033 and 0x0035, and if MCE was looking for those, that could be choking it. Here's the capture which dates to last August. http://www.rabbitears.info/screencaps/tx-wac/10245-0_0.htm

(Technically speaking, the 0x0033/0x0035 arrangement did NOT conform to normal PID assignment practices.)

Also, check that the Source ID between Programs 3 and 4 are different, as in, one is 3 and the other is 4, or something like that.

I'm also curious as to what 0x1388 is.

Finally, a favor to ask, would you be willing to capture me some HTML Exports on the various stations you receive? I can provide detailed instructions if you are willing to do so. I'd be much appreciative. :)

- Trip

alton987

06-27-10, 12:16 PM

Trip in VA

06-27-10, 12:19 PM

Here is the local channel info from TSReader for all the locals. If you could checkout the channel 6 info and give me some more advice that would be great. I'm not sure if its as issue with the station or Media Center. Talking to the engineer this week he did tell me they replace some equipment last week and corrected some errors.

Thanks
Alton

Unfortunately, those are all empty. In the Export dialog box, you need to check the various boxes at the bottom of the window. I'd say to click on Select All or whatever that button says, then uncheck EIT and Thumbnails.

Glad to help. :)

- Trip

alton987

06-27-10, 12:24 PM

Unfortunately, those are all empty. In the Export dialog box, you need to check the various boxes at the bottom of the window. I'd say to click on Select All or whatever that button says, then uncheck EIT and Thumbnails.

Glad to help. :)

- Trip

I fixed the original post

Trip in VA

06-27-10, 12:27 PM

Is it both 6-1 and 6-2 that are giving you issues, or just one or the other?

- Trip

alton987

06-27-10, 12:30 PM

Neither work, on 2 different PC's plus I know of 2 other Media Center users with the same issue. I know Media Center can be really picky with OTA signals.

Trip in VA

06-27-10, 12:30 PM

I see a potential problem. Not sure if it's causing your issue, but it's definitely wrong.

That 0x1388 that I saw before is identified in the PMT as an audio stream, and the bitrate on it suggests that it's an audio stream, but the analysis in the Usage area shows it as part of the EIT data (used for the program guide). Something is definitely wrong there, though I don't know what.

- Trip

Trip in VA

06-27-10, 12:32 PM

Also, in the HTML capture you just posted, their TSID is now 1 and not the number you'd shown in the picture. That could be causing your issues too.

- Trip

alton987

06-27-10, 12:32 PM

Should I just email the engineer that or you think its something MS needs to update with Media Center? KCEN says they will help but they claim to not see any problems.

Trip in VA

06-27-10, 12:34 PM

Both problems are things the engineer needs to look at. I'd send that HTML Export in your e-mail, tell him to check that the TSID is being transmitted consistently and that PID 0x1388 is assigned to the EIT and not to an audio stream, unless it is an audio stream, in which case part of the EIT is missing.

I don't know if either of those will resolve your issue, but they're definitely problems. I don't think I see anything else wrong.

- Trip

alton987

06-27-10, 12:40 PM

Thanks I really appreciate the help! I'l let you know what KCEN has to say.

LWEW

07-01-10, 12:20 AM

I'm not receiving the KCEN HD signal on Suddenlink in Bryan. Earlier today, 23.1 went black, and later I started to receive the KYLE HD signal on 23.1. Rescanned the channels and 23.1 is no longer there. However, KRHD HD is now on 25.1 instead of 91.720 where it was before. Any idea what's going on?

alton987

07-02-10, 12:24 AM

This appears to be caused by the same upgrade to PSIP that was done at KCEN 6 (9).
I have an HD QAM Slingbox in the KYLE Bryan office on Suddenlink and I can't get 23.1 on it either.

I talked to them for over a week with no luck, maybe since your in the "business" they will listen to you. Assuming it their issues and not Microsoft.

jagouar

07-02-10, 10:25 AM

I tried my media center last night and it was fine..... but I also use suddenlink clear qam.

FOX44CE

07-06-10, 09:55 AM

KYLE (28) is off the air due to a total loss of power at the transmitter site.
Thieves started the power transformer on fire attempting to remove the copper wiring from the pole to the building complex.
I have no idea when repairs will be completed.

jagouar

07-06-10, 10:40 AM

Is that the SD kyle, HD kyle or both? That does suck that fox will be dark for a while. Hopefully the police find those responsible.

FOX44CE

07-12-10, 10:44 AM

Is that the SD kyle, HD kyle or both? That does suck that fox will be dark for a while. Hopefully the police find those responsible.

There is only one KYLE transmitter
28.1 (FOX HD) is the primary video stream.
KYLE also broadcasts Estrella (28.2) on the secondary digital stream.

Suddenlink down-converts the FOX HD signal for their SD channel.

arnoldevns

07-17-10, 07:54 PM

I'd be curious to know from someone in the BCS area if KRHD has fired up their digital transmitter. If so, do they map to 40.1, 2, 3 or do they map to 25.1, 2, 3. I have seen both. I can occasionally get KXXV-DT at my house in Plano. I noticed last night they ID their Telemundo channel as 26.2 and 40.2. (even though the Telemundo station is mapped to 25.2)

FOX44CE

07-22-10, 01:30 PM

KWKT & KYLE are now airing the following programming in HD:

6 PM Two & 1/2 Men
6:30 PM Two & 1/2 Men
7-9 PM FOX Network
9PM FOX News @ 9
9:10PM The Office
9:40PM The Office
12AM George Lopez
12:30AM Everybody Loves Raymond
1-3AM My Network (Delayed)

Weekends - All of the above except News at various times.

pistonrod8

07-28-10, 10:47 AM

Does anyone else here use Windows Media Center to pickup channel 6 KCEN? They did some equipment upgrades last week and it is no longer working in Media Center. I did some digging with TSReader i I think the issue is in there data stream. It reports that the channel is broadcasting on channel 50. I have called the station and emailed but haven't got much fixed.

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Does anyone have other any suggestions?

I have the same issue. Have you been able to resolve it?

FOX44CE

07-28-10, 04:35 PM

I have the same issue. Have you been able to resolve it?

The channel 50 information in TSReader is from an old TSReader database.
The RF channel number does not exist in the PSIP tables.
The frequency reading in the PSIP tables is required to be zero by FCC rule.
The original FCC digital allocation for KCEN (Virtual 6) was channel 50.
They petitioned the FCC to change to channel 9 and that change was approved.
The original channel 50 was filed on and approved for KBTX (Virtual 3) in Bryan.
The issue that you are having relates to the station's TSID value being incorrect.
I tried to inform them of the error but the Chief Engineer I knew is no longer there.

re_nelson

07-28-10, 11:22 PM

The original FCC digital allocation for KCEN (Virtual 6) was channel 50.
They petitioned the FCC to change to channel 9 and that change was approved.

And those of us in the Dallas-Ft. Worth market who suffer interference on co-channel KFWD from KCEN even during the slightest tropo are still puzzled about how and why this change was approved.

There are nights when I try to watch the WFAA news replay on KFWD and get absolutely nothing on KFWD. Inevitably on those nights, I can tune to RF-10 and get KWTX, indicating that Waco/Temple signals are pounding in.

FOX44CE

07-30-10, 05:15 PM

And those of us in the Dallas-Ft. Worth market who suffer interference on co-channel KFWD from KCEN even during the slightest tropo are still puzzled about how and why this change was approved.

There are nights when I try to watch the WFAA news replay on KFWD and get absolutely nothing on KFWD. Inevitably on those nights, I can tune to RF-10 and get KWTX, indicating that Waco/Temple signals are pounding in.

More than likely your interference is a result of adjacent channel from KWTX on 10 rather than co-channel from KCEN on 9.

KCEN operates at a much lower power level than KFWD and they would have to be coming in 10 DB higher to cause co-channel interference.

I have a Scala quad cut channel 28 antenna with a Citgo channel 28 preamp 120 ft up on the STL tower in Waco to receive our KYLE 50KW in Bryan and when tropo is active the FOX 29 in Beaumont wipes it out.

re_nelson

07-30-10, 07:37 PM

More than likely your interference is a result of adjacent channel from KWTX on 10 rather than co-channel from KCEN on 9.

KCEN operates at a much lower power level than KFWD and they would have to be coming in 10 DB higher to cause co-channel interference.

KFWD still operates at 13 kW. The 55 kW facility, although approved, has not yet been built and is unlikely to be built anytime soon.

According to FCC records, KCEN runs 25 kW.

If KWTX were the culprit of the QRM, would it not also impact co-channel KTVT on RF-11?

On those nights when KFWD is lost at my location (40 miles north of Cedar Hill), KTVT is still 5 by 5.

FOX44CE

08-02-10, 03:09 PM

KFWD still operates at 13 kW. The 55 kW facility, although approved, has not yet been built and is unlikely to be built anytime soon.

According to FCC records, KCEN runs 25 kW.

If KWTX were the culprit of the QRM, would it not also impact co-channel KTVT on RF-11?

On those nights when KFWD is lost at my location (40 miles north of Cedar Hill), KTVT is still 5 by 5.

I wasn't aware that KFWD hadn't built out to 55KW. Normally co-channel interference causes a straight switch.
If you drove from Waco to Dallas back when KCEN and WFAA were both on channel 9 your TV just switched from one to the other around Hillsborough.

One idiosyncrasy of digital TV related to the fact that the sidebands are "above" the visual carrier in frequency (and the visual carrier is at the lower end of the channel) is that adjacent upper channels interfere at a signal level approximately 20db less than adjacent lower channels.

As a result of that anomaly, KWTX would have to be 20db stronger to interfere with channel 11 than it takes for it to interfere with channel 9.

re_nelson

08-02-10, 08:54 PM

During periods of strong tropo, KWBU used to come into my area regularly. We had such an event over the weekend, with KWTX and KXXV pounding in but no KWBU.

Did Waco's onetime PBS outlet finally shuw down?

pistonrod8

08-03-10, 08:09 AM

pistonrod8

08-03-10, 08:14 AM

I was able to resolve my KCEN-DT issue by just grabbing Grande's QAM feed. I was expecting to get more channels out of it, though. I can't pick up Fox, CBS, or PBS.

???

FOX44CE

08-03-10, 08:43 AM

I was able to resolve my KCEN-DT issue by just grabbing Grande's QAM feed. I was expecting to get more channels out of it, though. I can't pick up Fox, CBS, or PBS.

???

Grande carries KCEN, KWTX, KXXV, and KWKT all in clear QAM.
You should be able to get them all with any clear QAM tuner.

FOX44CE

08-03-10, 08:46 AM

Yes, KWBU is off the air. :(

KWBU ceased operations due to lack of funding after an increase in PBS programming costs the first week in July.
Time Warner and Grande cable moved KNCT (Killeen) to the channels previously occupied by KWBU.

hodedofome

08-03-10, 08:47 AM

I was able to resolve my KCEN-DT issue by just grabbing Grande's QAM feed. I was expecting to get more channels out of it, though. I can't pick up Fox, CBS, or PBS.

???

I don't know how you're getting your QAM (media center or just straight to your tv) but on my tv via Grande QAM - CBS is 10.1, CW is 10.2, PBS is like in the 60s and Fox is in like the 80s channels. NBC and ABC are like 403.1 and 405.1. They are a bit scattered to say the least.

pistonrod8

08-04-10, 07:57 AM

I don't know how you're getting your QAM (media center or just straight to your tv) but on my tv via Grande QAM - CBS is 10.1, CW is 10.2, PBS is like in the 60s and Fox is in like the 80s channels. NBC and ABC are like 403.1 and 405.1. They are a bit scattered to say the least.

It's through my Media Center. I've run the TV setup/Channel Scanner on two separate machines and still don't get Fox or CBS. They've both got the same tuner, so maybe that's the problem.

pistonrod8

08-04-10, 07:59 AM

Grande carries KCEN, KWTX, KXXV, and KWKT all in clear QAM.
You should be able to get them all with any clear QAM tuner.

I know that I should, just can't. Maybe I need to do some reconfiguring.

jagouar

08-04-10, 08:32 AM

It's through my Media Center. I've run the TV setup/Channel Scanner on two separate machines and still don't get Fox or CBS. They've both got the same tuner, so maybe that's the problem.

Are you just using the scanner program? Some of the clear qam channels here did not scan and I had to add them manually. That may be your problem.

If somebody else in your area has a hdhomerun with clearqam you will be able to see the channel mappings listed here. http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels/

hodedofome

08-05-10, 07:04 AM

Correct I had to manually add them as well using the channel guide on the hdhomerun site.

pistonrod8

08-05-10, 08:01 AM

Are you just using the scanner program? Some of the clear qam channels here did not scan and I had to add them manually. That may be your problem.

If somebody else in your area has a hdhomerun with clearqam you will be able to see the channel mappings listed here. http://www.silicondust.com/support/channels/

Yes, I tried the manual route as well. I bought another tuner card yesterday, so I'm going to try that; make sure it's not a hardware issue on my end.

pistonrod8

08-06-10, 08:44 AM

Got the other tuner card in and can now pick up 10.1 KWTX. I still can't get FOX or PBS. I have 83.3 for FOX KWKT and 83.1 for KNCT, but I have no signal for those channnels. I may need to just get another tuner card and bring those in on the antenna. :(

Are there any other Grande QAM users out there using Media Center?

hodedofome

08-07-10, 05:59 AM

pistonrod8

08-07-10, 03:21 PM

Are you setting them up using QAM256?

Yes.

I figured it out. I am subscribed to the basic cable through Grande. The filter they put on the line blocks out the low 80's channels. I bypassed the filter as a test, and sure enough, KWKT and KNCT come in just fine.

Maybe it's a question for FOX44CE, but I thought, per the FCC, that all the local broadcast channels were supposed to be available through unencrypted QAM. Is that correct?

hodedofome

08-08-10, 08:38 AM

I don't know if it's a FCC mandate or just something the cable companies do for our benefit. I know my friend in China Spring just got Grande and the technician put a filter out on the locked powerline hub in his front yard that blocks everything but internet going through. So he can't pick up QAM channels on his tv, he just gets the internet that he pays for.

joe rz

08-09-10, 07:35 PM

I'm having trouble picking up NBC and PBS on QAM now here in Bryan on Suddenlink. Anyone else having this problem?

FOX44CE

08-10-10, 03:26 PM

Yes.

I figured it out. I am subscribed to the basic cable through Grande. The filter they put on the line blocks out the low 80's channels. I bypassed the filter as a test, and sure enough, KWKT and KNCT come in just fine.

Maybe it's a question for FOX44CE, but I thought, per the FCC, that all the local broadcast channels were supposed to be available through unencrypted QAM. Is that correct?

For viewers with cable ready TV (QAM) the FCC requires that all cable companies pass at least the primary channel of all local TV stations un-encrypted.

If you subscribe to basic-basic (analog tier only) they do not have to deliver a digital signal at all.

pistonrod8

08-11-10, 08:31 AM

Alright, thanks. :)

jagouar

08-20-10, 03:50 PM

just an update for those suddenlink media center users.... not sure if the psip data was fixed but kmay is being detected on 23.1 now (atleast on my system) but it does detect as the SD version and not the HD but thats a quick guide data fix. they also fixed kamu's mapping as well (had to manually add them before)

for reference this is what my media center detects the channels as now (it automatically adds/removes channels as they are detected):
3.1 kbtxdt
12.1 kamudt
23.1 kcendt/kmay
28.1 kyledt
40.1 krhddt

mbole

08-21-10, 11:45 PM

Thanks Jag, I've been looking for the NBC clearQAM channel for a while.

Polen

08-23-10, 08:54 AM

FYI:

Not sure if any of you know this but Suddenlink has been providing Clear QAM for their Expanded channel line up for over a month now. Here's my HDHomerun channel scan for my SageTV.

# Generated by HDHomeRun Setup
CH:1 major:1008 minor:205 prog:205 phy:93 frq:637250000 mod:0 #:FAMNET
CH:2 major:1008 minor:704 prog:704 phy:109 frq:703250000 mod:0 #:WGNHD
CH:3 major:1008 minor:705 prog:705 phy:91 frq:625250000 mod:0 #:KYLEDT
CH:4 major:1008 minor:710 prog:710 phy:91 frq:625250000 mod:0 #:KBTXDT
CH:5 major:1008 minor:700 prog:700 phy:90 frq:619250000 mod:0 #:KAMUDT
CH:6 major:1008 minor:63 prog:63 phy:75 frq:529250000 mod:0 #:BRAVO
CH:7 major:1008 minor:64 prog:64 phy:75 frq:529250000 mod:0 #:MSNBC
CH:8 major:1008 minor:65 prog:65 phy:75 frq:529250000 mod:0 #:CMTV
CH:9 major:1008 minor:66 prog:66 phy:75 frq:529250000 mod:0 #:GAC
CH:10 major:1008 minor:67 prog:67 phy:75 frq:529250000 mod:0 #:CSPAN2
CH:11 major:1008 minor:68 prog:68 phy:75 frq:529250000 mod:0 #:TBN
CH:12 major:1008 minor:69 prog:69 phy:75 frq:529250000 mod:0 #:INSP
CH:13 major:1008 minor:70 prog:70 phy:75 frq:529250000 mod:0 #:LMN
CH:14 major:1008 minor:71 prog:71 phy:75 frq:529250000 mod:0 #:JWLTV
CH:15 major:1008 minor:72 prog:72 phy:75 frq:529250000 mod:0 #:EWTN
CH:16 major:1008 minor:53 prog:53 phy:74 frq:523250000 mod:0 #:TWC
CH:17 major:1008 minor:54 prog:54 phy:74 frq:523250000 mod:0 #:HGTV
CH:18 major:1008 minor:55 prog:55 phy:74 frq:523250000 mod:0 #:COMEDY
CH:19 major:1008 minor:56 prog:56 phy:74 frq:523250000 mod:0 #:VH1
CH:20 major:1008 minor:57 prog:57 phy:74 frq:523250000 mod:0 #:AMC
CH:21 major:1008 minor:58 prog:58 phy:74 frq:523250000 mod:0 #:TCM
CH:22 major:1008 minor:59 prog:59 phy:74 frq:523250000 mod:0 #:VERSUS
CH:23 major:1008 minor:60 prog:60 phy:74 frq:523250000 mod:0 #:SPEED
CH:24 major:1008 minor:61 prog:61 phy:74 frq:523250000 mod:0 #:OUTD
CH:25 major:1008 minor:62 prog:62 phy:74 frq:523250000 mod:0 #:SPIKETV
CH:26 major:1008 minor:42 prog:42 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:HLN
CH:27 major:1008 minor:43 prog:43 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:FNC
CH:28 major:1008 minor:44 prog:44 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:HISTORY
CH:29 major:1008 minor:45 prog:45 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:GALA
CH:30 major:1008 minor:46 prog:46 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:MTV
CH:31 major:1008 minor:47 prog:47 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:TLC
CH:32 major:1008 minor:48 prog:48 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:MTV2
CH:33 major:1008 minor:49 prog:49 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:TVLAND
CH:34 major:1008 minor:50 prog:50 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:FOOD
CH:35 major:1008 minor:51 prog:51 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:TRAV
CH:36 major:1008 minor:52 prog:52 phy:73 frq:517250000 mod:0 #:AETV
CH:37 major:1008 minor:32 prog:32 phy:72 frq:511250000 mod:0 #:NIK
CH:38 major:1008 minor:33 prog:33 phy:72 frq:511250000 mod:0 #:ABCF
CH:39 major:1008 minor:34 prog:34 phy:72 frq:511250000 mod:0 #:TRUTV
CH:40 major:1008 minor:35 prog:35 phy:72 frq:511250000 mod:0 #:TNT
CH:41 major:1008 minor:36 prog:36 phy:72 frq:511250000 mod:0 #:FX
CH:42 major:1008 minor:37 prog:37 phy:72 frq:511250000 mod:0 #:CNBC
CH:43 major:1008 minor:38 prog:38 phy:72 frq:511250000 mod:0 #:APL
CH:44 major:1008 minor:39 prog:39 phy:72 frq:511250000 mod:0 #:TOON
CH:45 major:1008 minor:40 prog:40 phy:72 frq:511250000 mod:0 #:DSC
CH:46 major:1008 minor:41 prog:41 phy:72 frq:511250000 mod:0 #:DISN
CH:47 major:1008 minor:23 prog:23 phy:71 frq:505250000 mod:0 #:USA
CH:48 major:1008 minor:24 prog:24 phy:71 frq:505250000 mod:0 #:CNN
CH:49 major:1008 minor:25 prog:25 phy:71 frq:505250000 mod:0 #:FSNH
CH:50 major:1008 minor:26 prog:26 phy:71 frq:505250000 mod:0 #:BET
CH:51 major:1008 minor:27 prog:27 phy:71 frq:505250000 mod:0 #:ESPN
CH:52 major:1008 minor:28 prog:28 phy:71 frq:505250000 mod:0 #:ESPN2
CH:53 major:1008 minor:29 prog:29 phy:71 frq:505250000 mod:0 #:E
CH:54 major:1008 minor:30 prog:30 phy:71 frq:505250000 mod:0 #:LIFE
CH:55 major:1008 minor:31 prog:31 phy:71 frq:505250000 mod:0 #:SYFY
CH:56 major:1008 minor:15 prog:15 phy:11 frq:199250000 mod:0 #:CSPAN
CH:57 major:1008 minor:17 prog:17 phy:11 frq:199250000 mod:0 #:UNI
CH:58 major:1008 minor:20 prog:20 phy:11 frq:199250000 mod:0 #:KUHT
CH:59 major:1008 minor:21 prog:21 phy:11 frq:199250000 mod:0 #:KXXVDT2
CH:60 major:1008 minor:98 prog:98 phy:11 frq:199250000 mod:0 #:QVC
CH:61 major:1008 minor:99 prog:99 phy:11 frq:199250000 mod:0 #:HSN
CH:62 major:1008 minor:2 prog:2 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:WGNAMER
CH:63 major:1008 minor:3 prog:3 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:KTRK
CH:64 major:1008 minor:4 prog:4 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:KAMU
CH:65 major:1008 minor:6 prog:6 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:KMAYLP
CH:66 major:1008 minor:7 prog:7 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:KYLE
CH:67 major:1008 minor:8 prog:8 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:KBTXDT2
CH:68 major:1008 minor:9 prog:9 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:KRHDLP
CH:69 major:1008 minor:12 prog:12 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:TBS
CH:70 major:1008 minor:13 prog:13 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:TVGN
CH:71 major:1008 minor:14 prog:14 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:SUDHMBR
CH:72 major:1008 minor:5 prog:25 phy:10 frq:193250000 mod:0 #:KBTX
CH:73 major:1008 minor:720 prog:720 phy:22 frq:169250000 mod:0 #:KRHDDT
CH:74 major:1008 minor:730 prog:730 phy:22 frq:169250000 mod:0 #:KCENDT

cast&pray

08-23-10, 12:24 PM

FOX44CE

08-23-10, 12:30 PM

Who else has watched some of the NFL preseaon on Fox? Suddenlink (I'm guessing) is not passing the new 16 x 9 format- at least I assume it's their doing. I get a 4x3 sidebar and a letterbox effect on the HD feed which effectively is turning my 46 inch TV into a 26 inch TV. For those who get OTA or otherwise, are you seeing this?

I had a phone message left for me this morning stating that KYLE had not been in HD during FOX since Thursday night.
I check out our switching decoder and found that it had locked up during a power failure (Thursday).
It and was not switching HD when the FOX splicer was switched to network.

I have posted a memo at master control to have them watch this more closely and notify me immediately.

I receive an e-mail from the Forum whenever a new post is up on any of the ComCorp station sites.

Please continue to let me know when there are issues like this in the future.

We will get them addressed in a more timely manner.

cast&pray

08-23-10, 12:54 PM

Thanks FOX44, both for the explanation and the timely response. I'll keep monitoring it, got to have NFL in HD!

jagouar

08-23-10, 01:24 PM

Polen.... edit that post.

Most of us already know we are getting a bunch of channels we are not supposed to.... the easiest way to get them to fix it is to bring it to their attention. ;)

it_guy_0001

08-27-10, 01:04 AM

cast&pray

08-27-10, 08:43 AM

As of last night, Suddenlink has added NFL Network to the BCS market.

arnoldevns

08-28-10, 07:26 PM

I'm in College Station. I am getting 40.1 (ABC) and 40.2 (Telemundo) over the air (with an outdoor antenna).

Thank you! Do they run their weather channel on 40.3 or are 40.1 and 40.2 the only subchannels on KRHD-LD?

it_guy_0001

09-06-10, 07:16 PM

Thank you! Do they run their weather channel on 40.3 or are 40.1 and 40.2 the only subchannels on KRHD-LD?

No, I got nothing when I tuned to 40.3. In case you didn't know, B/CS already has a weather channel (12.2).

aggiefan21

09-06-10, 09:04 PM

Hello, This is my first post and I'm pretty much a rookie when it comes to antenna technology and what not.

We will be using an antenna to get(hopefully) a few channels at tailgate on gamedays. No one in our tailgate currently has satellite subcrips...so we're just going to try to pick up CBS/ABC/FOX/NBC...

I bought the basic RCA indoor amplified off-air antenna rabbit ears today to try them on the LCD TV we'll be bringing out there. It picked up 3-1 and 3-2(KBTX 1 and KBTX2)...also the KAMU channels(PBS or local broadcasting?) and it got FOX pretty choppy, but no abc.

I tried this in South CS with a good amount of tall trees near the house.

My question is...can I pick up ABC with these rabbit ears($40 RCA that are intended for indoor use)...or could I get ABC with an outdoor antenna, and if so...what antenna should I look for that would work well with a tailgate setup?(that's why I originally tried the smaller rabbit ears but if they are indoor antennas will I experience issues with wind?)

Also...what's off air/on air? Do I need an antenna that can find both to get ABC?
thanks so much in advance!

Example: would something like this be ideal, especially to find the ABC channel? http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3740644#inTheBox

kevin120

09-25-10, 04:43 PM

effective october 1st Time Warner Cable is scheduled to move the public access channels to digital only and will be on their current channels with STBs and Cable Card equiped third party DVRs or QAM tuning devices.

they will be on these QAM channels according to the following link

10-10 waco city cable channel
10-17 waco i.s.d. tv
10-18 College Channel

http://www.waco-texas.com/pdf/information/newsletters/SEPTEMBER%202010%20CITY%20LIMITS.pdf

note the link says August 5th as the transition but TWC has delayed it until 10/1/10.

here in the dallas metro TWC will make the public access channels on digital channels only as well on 10/1/10

here they will be on

15-1 government access
15-2 public access
15-3 government access 2
15-4 educational access
15-5 educational access
15-6 educational access
15-7 public access in certain cites
15-8 public access in certain cites
15-9 public access in certain cites
15-10 public access in certain cites
15-101 public access in certain cities
15-102 public access in certain cities

AggiePhil

09-25-10, 06:46 PM

sivartk

09-25-10, 08:37 PM

Non-techno genius translation please? :confused:

Basically, you will lose those channels unless you have a cable box or a digital TV with a QAM (digital cable) tuner. Your old analog TV plugged into the wall won't pick up those stations come October 1.

Bob Coxner

09-29-10, 03:52 PM

DirecTV has added two local channels.

KAMU-PBS Channel 15 The picture quality is pretty crappy today, although it is HD, It looks like they're picking the signal up from OTA.

KRHD-ABC Channel 40 I haven't seen any HD so far.

BohunkAg

10-05-10, 10:26 PM

Bob Coxner

10-06-10, 09:14 AM

What is the point of having KRHD on D*? Isn't that a duplicate of KXXV (newscasts and everything)? KAMU has some separate programming (my son is seeing Mr. Rogers for the first time), but KRHD doesn't as far as I know.

The ONLY difference I can see in the guide is at 11:30am each weekday morning. KXXV has The Insider while KRHD has Paid Programming.

compubit

10-08-10, 10:45 PM

KRHD used to have a B/CS-focused newscast at 10pm - not sure if they still do anymore (haven't been to B/CS for a while and don't have DirecTV...).

Jim

vzag

10-10-10, 07:48 PM

Hey y'all,

I'm going to cancel Suddenlink TV, since most of the shows I watch are on local channels. However, even though the antennas for KYLE and KMAY are in the same location, I can't pick up KMAY with my indoor antenna. Should I opt for an outdoor antenna? It doesn't seem like it's necessary, since I'm only 8 miles away from the transmitter, in the Southside neighborhood of CS.

As a side note, I'm keeping Suddenlink internet. Would I be able to get local channels on HD via QAM, rendering my antenna problems moot?

Edit: These are the channels that I'm currently receiving:
KBTX
KAMU
KYLE
KRHD

Jonnyb99

10-11-10, 12:46 PM

As a side note, I'm keeping Suddenlink internet. Would I be able to get local channels on HD via QAM, rendering my antenna problems moot?

I've wondered this for a while now. I have Suddenlink phone and internet. I just never checked because I have D*.

jagouar

10-21-10, 03:43 PM

As a side note, I'm keeping Suddenlink internet. Would I be able to get local channels on HD via QAM, rendering my antenna problems moot?

Edit: These are the channels that I'm currently receiving:
KBTX
KAMU
KYLE
KRHD

Yes you will be able to get the clear qam channels as long as you have a tuner.... we get kbtx, kamu, kcen, kyle, krhd and wgn in hd. I only have internet through them now and use my media center to watch and record the locals..... not guarantee it will always be like that but we get the locals w/o needing a tv package.

cast&pray

11-12-10, 12:09 PM

As of last night, BCS Suddenlink has added KBTX2 (CW) to it's HD lineup. It's been on HD package for a few weeks, but last night was the first time it's actually been HD. Glad to have it.

cbearmike709

11-16-10, 05:14 PM

Recently,I just upgraded from DTV from a converter box to an actual HDTV (flat-panel LCD). I usually have no problems picking up all the local channels but recently on KWKT 44.1 and KWTX 10.1,I think there have been some sort of broadcast glitches.
The first occurence happened last week during"Fringe" then last night during "House".
The screen went black after the audio track mysteriously hung on one word.
The only way to get the broadcast back was to switch the set off then on.
Is it my flat-panel or a broadcast problem?

Gandalf007

12-11-10, 01:39 AM

Don't always count on getting clear QAM if you subscribe to Suddenlink internet but not TV. My friend had both cable and internet from them, then later canceled cable. The analog cable went away, but the clear QAM remained (or rather, he discovered it after finally getting an HDTV). However, when he moved across town (and had the same internet-only service installed at his new house), he only got one analog + one QAM channel (which weren't anything worth watching), so apparently they put on more restrictive filters if you only order internet.

jose73

01-16-11, 01:27 PM

Bob Coxner

01-17-11, 09:31 AM

WOW.....it been 35 days since anyone has posted a message on this board.
Did all of you fall into a hole?
I am looking for opinions and comments on the quality of the Dish Network service as compared to DirectTV. Any comments would be appreciated as I am going to drop Suddenlink service within the next couple of weeks. Every time I get a new bill from Suddenlink the price keeps going up by $2 to $3 dollars each time.

You have to define "quality". If sports are high on your list then DirecTV is likely to be the best choice. It's the only way you can get NFL Sunday Ticket and several other sports features are unique to DirecTV. For example, during major golf events like The Masters they have 6 channels devoted to the event. One channel is the same one everyone gets, one channel follows only the big name group (almost always Tiger), one channel only covers the 3 holes of Amen Corner, one channel only has the leaderboard and stats, etc.

How many DVR's do you have? DirecTV only charges one flat fee of $7 per month, no matter how many you have. Dish charges per DVR, $10 for each Solo and $17 for each Duo.

Dish has an advantage with built-in Slingbox technology on one of their DVR's. You can use Slingbox with DirecTV but you would have to buy it separate.

Overall, I would say DirecTV is viewed as the BMW of the satellite world while Dish would be a Chevrolet. Depending on your needs, Dish can be cheaper but it will still get most people from point A to B. If you need the absolutely lowest basic package cost, then Dish is the way to go.

Note that I've been with DirecTV for almost 12 years, so I'm biased and YMMV.

sivartk

01-18-11, 08:57 PM

Hi, does anyone here have Windows 7 Media Center. I have it installed on 2 machines and I'm having a hard time tuning KCEN and it's subchannels. I have a TV tuner that picks up a good clean signal without a problem. I'm using an attic mounted antenna in Round Rock.

I can pick up the following stations without any issue and hold a good consistent signal. Just KCEN and Windows 7 Media Center don't play well. (Using a HVR-1250 and 2250 tuner)

6.1, 6.2, 6.3 (KCEN)
7.1 (KTBC)
10.1, 10.2 (KWTX)
18.1, 18.2, 18.3 (KLRU)
24.1, 24.2, 24.3 (KVUE)
25.1, 25.2, 25.3 (KXXV)
31.1, 31.2 (KAKW)
36.1 (KXAN)
42.1, 42.2 (KEYE)
46.1, 46.2, 46.3 (KNCT)
54.1, 54.2 (KNVA)
62.1, 62.2 (KAKW)

pistonrod8

01-19-11, 01:00 PM

sivartk

01-19-11, 05:46 PM

Same here. From what I've gathered, and it's been posted a few pages back, the station's signal is what the root of the problem is. I finally just ditched the antenna and bring it in over ClearQAM. Works 100% and I've never lost the signal or missed a recording.

thanks, I saw that and was hoping it would be fixed or a "hack" would have been found. I can pick up NBC in Austin with no issues, so it is only the occasion movie I want to record on THIS that I miss out on.

hodedofome

01-20-11, 08:49 AM

I too switched to QAM a few years ago, mainly because of KCEN. Heck, I live in Waco and using an antenna always gave me issues with that station. I even switched from TWC to Grande internet because TWC dropped a few QAM stations.

jagouar

01-20-11, 05:01 PM

If you can go clear qam..... I ditched ota years ago like most around here. I think there have been psip issues with kcen as well where they don't appear to media center correctly (somebody here had that issue and its also been discussed on thegreenbutton.com). I would link you but I don't remember who had that issue.

Jonnyb99

01-21-11, 09:56 AM

cast&pray

02-02-11, 06:28 PM

Jonnyb99

02-03-11, 08:26 AM

KYLE has been 'jittery' for at least two days on Suddenlink. Like getting a quarter of a second of motion then jumping forward a quarter of a second-very hard to watch. It's the only station that it's happening to. And FOX has the Superbowl, so I hope it's ironed out before then!

Have you tried using an OTA signal? I watched American Idol on FOX 44 via D* and didn't notice any problems. I'll check by OTA antenna tonight and see how KYLE (FOX 28) looks.

cast&pray

02-03-11, 09:35 AM

FOX44CE

02-03-11, 09:58 AM

No I haven't. I still have my antenna mounted in my attic from my directv days, and that will get hooked back up for Sunday if the problem continues. Thinking back, I first noticed this on Sunday and it persisted through at least Tuesday (didn't even turn a TV on last night). I have two HD cable boxes in the house of different types and it was happening on both. Good to know it wasn't coming through OTA that way.

Are you noticing this only during FOX programming or does it also happen during Syndication, My Network, or HD Local News?

Due to the implementation of Wide Screen Graphics at FOX, we were forced to replace our KYLE FOX decoder to pass Active Format Descriptor (AFD).

NOTE: D* and Dish carry KWKT from OTA (not KYLE) and are not affected by this change
(The KWKT FOX Splicer passes the entire FOX stream to KWKT untouched by us).

We installed the new decoder January 19th and worked with Suddenlink to get their SD (Channel 7) down-converter to switch from full screen to letterbox correctly during FOX programming.

This change should only have affected Suddenlink SD (Channel 7) during FOX programming.
(The new decoder actually improves the quality of the FOX video OTA and on the Suddenlink HD channel)

One side benefit of this decoder is that it can be configured to pass Dolby Surround and we have ordered an Evertz Dolby encoder to be able to implement it.

The issue that you describe sounds like bit starvation that could be occurring at several points in the delivery system including our system or Suddenlink.

We monitor KYLE OTA here in Waco full time (Quad Channel 28 antennas on our STL tower here in Waco).

I was here for the Sickle Cell Telethon and stayed for the first quarter of the Pro Bowl to verify AFD switching on Suddenlink Channel 7. (via the Slingbox in our Bryan office)

I did not see any indication of pixelization or stuttering OTA or on the SD Suddenlink feed. (I was not monitoring the Suddenlink HD channel for the reasons stated above)

If this issue can be traced to something we have done here, I am anxious to work with all of you to get it corrected as soon as possible. We value your input and I check this forum every day for any new concerns expressed.

cast&pray

02-03-11, 12:39 PM

Thanks, FOX44CE. I can tell you that two of the shows where it was instantly noticable were the Pro bowl on Sunday and Human Target (Monday or Tuesday). National-feed commercials had it during the times I was watching, but unfortunately our local commercials are all composed of still pictures or a person standing still and talking, so if it was there it wasn't evident. Those are the two examples that I can come up with off the top of my head. I didn't watch anything at all last night. If I see it again I'll take better mental notes, as well as check the SD channel.

FOX44CE

02-04-11, 10:09 AM

Thanks, FOX44CE. I can tell you that two of the shows where it was instantly noticeable were the Pro bowl on Sunday and Human Target (Monday or Tuesday). National-feed commercials had it during the times I was watching, but unfortunately our local commercials are all composed of still pictures or a person standing still and talking, so if it was there it wasn't evident. Those are the two examples that I can come up with off the top of my head. I didn't watch anything at all last night. If I see it again I'll take better mental notes, as well as check the SD channel.

I monitored our KYLE FOX HD Decoder for errors and the HD Encoder spare bit rate to verify that the bandwidth was sufficient and not starving during FOX.

The HD Decoder logged no buffer errors from 7 to 9 PM and the HD Encoder spare bit rate never dropped below 1 Megabit.

If the issue is bit starvation, it's not in our processing here in Waco.

The ASI MPEG2 stream is passed unchanged through our digital microwave to the transmitter site and there directly to the transmitter exciter.

BLTX1

02-05-11, 10:29 PM

FOX44CE

02-06-11, 01:07 PM

FOX44CE
I watched KYLE 28 last night OTA (Fringe) in College Station and the video was looking very jerky during movement. The signal wasn't pixelating, just very jerkly, almost unwatchable. I did not notice this on the SD feed just now (Sat 10:28PM).

I am here at the KWKT studio master control today (Super Bowl Sunday) until after the Super Bowl.
We are airing the pre-game show right now and Inside the Rings earlier from FOX on KWKT & KYLE.
I have a dedicated monitor on the KYLE FOX decoder on the digital rack.
I am also monitoring KWKT & KYLE OTA on side-by-side Sony 32" monitors.
I do not see any indication of the stuttering that you describe.
As a matter of fact the picture quality on KWKT & KYLE is identical.

cast&pray

02-07-11, 12:51 PM

The problem was not there at all yesterday during the Superbowl, or the pregame. It looked great.
Glad to hear we might soon have DD sound!

cast&pray

02-07-11, 03:48 PM

We've never spoken on the phone, FOX44CE. But nevertheless, thank you for your willingness to respond to potential issues so quickly.

cast&pray

03-20-11, 09:23 AM

There's a NASCAR race today; that should be 5.1 I assume. I'll check it then. Thanks!

cast&pray

03-20-11, 11:37 AM

Fox44, it's definitely coming through in 5.1. Surrounds are hot, makes it feel like your at the track.

nsandera

03-21-11, 10:17 PM

cast&pray

03-22-11, 08:18 AM

I was coming in to report the levels problem also (I thought the race on Sunday was that way because it's kind of supposed to be loud at a race track). The surrounds are way high and center channel is almost always overwhelmed.

cast&pray

03-23-11, 08:13 AM

Last night the sound levels were much better. I am, however experiencing total audio loss for about a second every two minutes. This happens on both HD and SD channels (Suddenlink). It's not happening on any other channel, and it doesn't matter if the feed is national or local. Maybe a Suddenlink issue?

cast&pray

03-23-11, 08:24 PM

Well, the audio during Am. Idol has not dropped once, but I'm not getting 5.1. Is Idol not in 5.1? I don't know. The commercials are extremely low volume-not that there's anything wrong with that unless you're paying for the ads.

sbmanuel

03-23-11, 08:33 PM

KRIV Houston is DD5.1 right now...

cast&pray

03-25-11, 08:39 AM

Well, I was called out of town yesterday on a work project, but the people I've spoken to in the office this this morning are saying that last night during AI the audio was much improved. Even during the commercials.

nsandera

03-26-11, 11:30 AM

The audio was much better in Fringe last night, I was actually able to hear the dialog over the background sounds.

Thanks FOX44CE

kilroy0097

04-03-11, 09:12 AM

Maybe its just my setup but I noticed while watching Fringe Friday night and House tonight (Monday) that in any scenes set indoors I could barely hear the dialog, I could hear the background noises loud and clear. I checked on both my Windows Media Center 7 setup using Clear QAM and an old Zenith CRT TV in the living room using the analog tuner, no cable box. I live in an apartment near Holleman and Wellborn and Suddenlink is our cable provider.

Let me know if any more details are needed.

I would like to support this poster because we have been having this issue on quite a few shows as of late. Just last week during Chicago Code (KYLED-705) @ 8pm CST the entire episode was Background audio +20 on volume and the dialog was barely audible. I had to attempt to isolate my center channel and pump up the volume on that in order to hear the actual dialog. It's not the first time it's happened during Chicago Code. It's also happened a couple of times during House which is on the same channel showing the previous hour @ 7pm CST.

Also during Nascar when it's showing on FOX we have been getting the same type of audio issue. The dialog of the announcers will be light and the audio of the track and the crowd and everything else will be quite a bit louder. To the point that I have to once again isolate the center channel and manually attempt to turn down the rest of the audio.

What troubles me more is that commercials, that air in the middle of the effected shows, are NOT effected. Many shows on Fox are also not effected.

What I need to know, is this a FOX broadcast issue or is this a Suddenlink issue? Or maybe is this a signal issue or a DVR issue?

This is in addition to sound actually dropping out on occasion on FOX as well. Sometimes the sound will complete cut out for a split second and then come back. It may happen an entire show ever 5 minutes or so but will not happen at all during commercials or other shows.

Does anyone have any advice for how I should proceed to fix this issue?

Thank you.

P.S. - This audio issue does not exist on other channels. Hence my assumption that FOX is at fault.

aerocowboy

04-03-11, 09:27 AM

Exact same symptoms here via Dish Network in Bryan (KWTK, I think?). Disproportionately loud left, right, & surrounds such that dialog sounds muffled and distant. Noticed it on House (especially), Fringe, and even American Idol for the last week or two.

FOX44CE

04-03-11, 10:21 AM

I would like to support this poster because we have been having this issue on quite a few shows as of late. Just last week during Chicago Code (KYLED-705) @ 8pm CST the entire episode was Background audio +20 on volume and the dialog was barely audible. I had to attempt to isolate my center channel and pump up the volume on that in order to hear the actual dialog. It's not the first time it's happened during Chicago Code. It's also happened a couple of times during House which is on the same channel showing the previous hour @ 7pm CST.

Also during Nascar when it's showing on FOX we have been getting the same type of audio issue. The dialog of the announcers will be light and the audio of the track and the crowd and everything else will be quite a bit louder. To the point that I have to once again isolate the center channel and manually attempt to turn down the rest of the audio.

What troubles me more is that commercials, that air in the middle of the effected shows, are NOT effected. Many shows on Fox are also not effected.

What I need to know, is this a FOX broadcast issue or is this a Suddenlink issue? Or maybe is this a signal issue or a DVR issue?

This is in addition to sound actually dropping out on occasion on FOX as well. Sometimes the sound will complete cut out for a split second and then come back. It may happen an entire show ever 5 minutes or so but will not happen at all during commercials or other shows.

Does anyone have any advice for how I should proceed to fix this issue?

Thank you.

P.S. - This audio issue does not exist on other channels. Hence my assumption that FOX is at fault.

The issues you are reffering to were a result of our upgrade on KYLE FOX 28 to surround sound.
The audio dropouts were traced to an incorrect audio reference setting in our HD Encoder and corrected.
The level issues were a result of incorrect channel mapping in the surround encoder which have also been corrected.
The encoded 5.1 audio from FOX is now passed through to the KYLE surround system unchanged.

FOX44CE

04-03-11, 10:27 AM

Exact same symptoms here via Dish Network in Bryan (KWKT, I think?). Disproportionately loud left, right, & surrounds such that dialog sounds muffled and distant. Noticed it on House (especially), Fringe, and even American Idol for the last week or two.

Yours issues with FOX 44 are not related to the issues posted regarding KYLE FOX 28.

Dish Network carries KWKT FOX 44. The entire MPEG2 Video/Audio stream received from FOX via satellite is passed through the FOX Splicer at our studio to the KWKT transmitter unmodified.
Dish Network and Direct TV receive our signal OTA and up-link to satellite at their combined facility in Waco.
What they do to the signal from that point to delivery is known only to them.

Since we do not touch the FOX stream in any way, any issues you have with Dish Network would need to be directed to them.

kilroy0097

04-03-11, 01:18 PM

Thank you FOX44CE for your quick and detailed reply. I glad that the issues have been fixed. NASCAR has been flawless this weekend. I'm crossing my fingers that all the new programing next week on FOX is also flawless. New episodes aren't as enjoyable when you feel like you are in a fish bowl when watching them. :)

FOX44CE

04-07-11, 09:52 AM

I guess that I can assume that everything is OK with KYLE 5.1 audio during FOX since nobody has posted anything since Sunday.

johndm90

04-08-11, 09:09 PM

Please forgive me if I'm in the wrong forum but we are moving to Coll-Sta in May. (Greens Prarie/Wellborn subdivision type area, single story.) Presuming an outside OTA antenna is prohibited, will I be able to receive HDTV local channels with an attic antenna? Or am I doomed to cable or dish?
Any help would be appreciated!

John

Bob Coxner

04-09-11, 09:31 AM

sivartk

04-09-11, 06:29 PM

nsandera

04-12-11, 05:57 PM

Everything sounded perfect to me last night with House.

Thanks again!

I guess that I can assume that everything is OK with KYLE 5.1 audio during FOX since nobody has posted anything since Sunday.

aerocowboy

04-13-11, 07:17 PM

American Idol is coming through tonight smashed into a wide aspect ratio for some reason. KWKT via Dish.

FOX44CE

04-16-11, 11:36 AM

American Idol is coming through tonight smashed into a wide aspect ratio for some reason. KWKT via Dish.

The SD channel should be displayed in letterbox.
The HD channel should be displayed 16:9 full screen.

The display is controlled by Dish Network equipment.

aerocowboy

04-16-11, 12:16 PM

The SD channel should be displayed in letterbox.
The HD channel should be displayed 16:9 full screen.

The display is controlled by Dish Network equipment.

Well sure. In this circumstance, the HD channel was being squashed to more like 2.35:1, letterboxed in the 16:9 frame. It was the only affected channel at the time. Curious, but it hasn't happened since.

FOX44CE

04-17-11, 11:50 AM

Well sure. In this circumstance, the HD channel was being squashed to more like 2.35:1, letterboxed in the 16:9 frame. It was the only affected channel at the time. Curious, but it hasn't happened since.
Sounds like we switched to our backup SD feed for some reason.
I'm out of town but will check on our confidence recorder when I get back Thursday..

Update: 04/25

I checked our confidence recorder for American Idol on 04/13 from 7PM to 8PM.
American Idol was broadcast in full 16:9 HD through the entire show on both KWKT and KYLE.

NOTE: Our confidence recorder records both stations from OTA antennae in HD.

elmina

05-02-11, 09:00 PM

FOX44CE

05-04-11, 03:49 PM

Watching House OTA, FOX 28, tonight (5-02) , I noticed several annoying audio dropouts. My pre/pro showed signal normally as DD 48khz 3/2 + LFE, but during brief dropouts (once at a key point in the dialog!), it showed "No Audio". No disruption of the video, only the audio.

It happened on KWKT also.
Checking with Fox for clarification.

Update: 05/05.

Our Shreveport & Lafayette stations had the same issue.
FOX says it wasn't them..............

fizban11

05-05-11, 07:48 PM

I have been a DTV customer for 11 years and I am having an issue of which I am rather frustrated.

I had 2 HR20's, one 100 and one 700 and received my locals via off-air connected directly to the boxes. I then subscribed to the whole home dvr service. OK, I could watch 6-1 (Waco/Temple NBC) and it would be pristine, clear and sharp. However, anything recorded from this channel was either completely garbled, no matter which machine it was played from, or (very rarely) the recording would be viewable but it would constantly drop out/digitize out. This happened 9 times out of 10.

I called several times to complain about the recording issue and that the machines seem to respond in slow-motion when using the multi-room viewing. I was bumped up to the HR21-700's, two of them and the AM-21's for locals. I installed them myself. I am still miffed that after 11 years DTV WILL NOT give me the latest equipment, and that even one of the HR-21-700's sent to me was a refurbished unit. But more of the same and again, only with channel 6-1 (NBC). Again, about 90% of the time.

I called in again to complain. The tech on the phone noticed that I used my gigabit backbone (hard wired CAT 6 cables, gigabit router and gigabit switches) instead of the DECA units, so they insisted this was the problem. A tech was sent out, DECA's were installed, units were reset and I proceeded with normal TV recording and viewing. The tech that came out said that he felt the AM-21's were the culprit as the signal is sent to the DVR on the same "bandwidth" as many of the DTV channels and the DVR is getting interference. I disagreed as the signal itself coming in seems to be fine. But, now something new is happening with the DECA's installed and the gigabit ethernet disconnected: 6-1 when viewed is sharp and clear, but now anything recorded from it is clear and sharp, but ALL DVR functions do not work, such as rewind, fast-forward and commercial skip. When I try to use them, it freezes at the spot I am on for about 10 seconds or so then jumps back to the beginning of the program. If I just let it play, it plays without incident, but I am stuck watching commercials. I am really confused.

When just viewing the channel and nothing recording to the LIST, even the rewind live TV function seems to freak out. I can view for a couple of minutes, go to rewind and the units freeze for the customary few seconds, then jumps back to the spot in the program at the moment I tuned to channel 6-1. This happens probably 70% of the time I try it.

I called in to complain again, and this time, I was told that they were bumping it up to the software engineers and that an ETA for getting back to me could not be offered. I was hoping to throw this out to the "A-game" crowd and get some thoughts. Thanks!

Before anyone jumps on it, this is not a knock on 6-1 (NBC.) This is a recording/playback issue for 6-1, not the signal. Nor do I want to make this an issue of whether or not I should subscribe to locals through DTV or receive them free via off-air antenna. My reasons for receiving via off-air is that the signals are MUCH better quality, both video and audio and I DO NOT lose the signal for locals in bad weather. Most of our recording is via locals, so having them always on is vital, not to mention during the storms recently with all the tornadoes, I never lost any local channel signal and was able to get weather information.

Bob Coxner

05-06-11, 02:34 PM

I don't have the whole house setup, so I can't speak to that.

Do you have some ancient grandfathered package? I ask because (so far as I know) you don't have the option of NOT subscribing to locals if they're available in your area.

As for weather, I rely on 25-3. They do the best job on severe weather and have a powerful signal - at least where I live. I didn't lose that signal during the last round of storms. For that matter, 25 off the satellite continued to work fine as well. Our locals are on a spot beam and the signal is more powerful than we get for the CONUS channels.

There's a different problem with channel 6. 6-2 programming shows in our guide (if you set it to all channels) but the actual program is 6-1. That means I can't watch the occasional Mavericks/Rangers games that play on 6-2 unless I turn off the DVR and watch using my tv tuner alone. It's an issue with Tribune Media (they provide the guide data) linking with DirecTV in some fashion. I've tried to get Tribune to correct it but I finally just gave up. You may recall that we had similar problems when we had the switchover from the 72.5 sat for locals a few years ago.

sivartk

05-06-11, 03:25 PM

I don't have the whole house setup, so I can't speak to that.

There's a different problem with channel 6. 6-2 programming shows in our guide (if you set it to all channels) but the actual program is 6-1. That means I can't watch the occasional Mavericks/Rangers games that play on 6-2 unless I turn off the DVR and watch using my tv tuner alone. It's an issue with Tribune Media (they provide the guide data) linking with DirecTV in some fashion. I've tried to get Tribune to correct it but I finally just gave up. You may recall that we had similar problems when we had the switchover from the 72.5 sat for locals a few years ago.

They send out the station information incorrectly. My Windows 7 MC box won't even tune 6.1 or 6.2 because of bad data on the stations end. My TV tuner has no issues with it. Luckily I don't rely on 6.1 for NBC programming in my area so I can still record NBC via KXAN (Austin), but I would like to record some of the programming on 6.2.

fizban11

05-20-11, 05:06 PM

Bob, No, not a grandfathered package. I actually upgraded to the choice + package at the time of adding the whole home DVR service. Unfortunately, these issues started prior to that with the old HR20-100/700's that I had. I am really perplexed by this.

This week, I recorded Chuck and The Event to watch. Neither one was viewable, though the actual broadcasts during recording were fine. This never happens with another channel. All signal strenths for all my locals show to be 95% or higher (well, except for PBS here, which I can never pick up!)

As far as the onscreen Guide info, it was messed up a bit during the digital transition about two years back, but it straightened itself out.

fizban11

05-20-11, 05:10 PM

Bob Coxner

05-21-11, 09:21 AM

Local channels through DirecTV are optional wiht all packages, they are just listed on the website as "with locals" if they are available in your area. Due to FCC regs, they cannot force you to pay for and receive a rebroadcast of locals in your area when they are free with an antenna OTA. Something to do with free broadcast reception rights. That is why they had to develop the AM-21's - to comply with allowing those who wish to do so to receive the locals via antenna.

There are also still a few areas where locals are not available via DirecTV. The AM-21 was built to support those subscribers who did not have an HR20 DVR. The HR20's have built-in tuners, they dropped tuners in subsequent DVRs (to save money). It's one reason I hang on to my HR20-700.

moghedien14

05-28-11, 07:22 AM

Local channels through DirecTV are optional wiht all packages, they are just listed on the website as "with locals" if they are available in your area. Due to FCC regs, they cannot force you to pay for and receive a rebroadcast of locals in your area when they are free with an antenna OTA. Something to do with free broadcast reception rights. That is why they had to develop the AM-21's - to comply with allowing those who wish to do so to receive the locals via antenna.

I doubt Directv has to offer the AM21. If they were, it would work with the standard receivers as well, by your reasoning. They may not be able to force you get Directv-supplied locals, but I doubt they are required to integrate OTA channels into their interactive guide...

Bob Coxner

05-29-11, 09:10 AM

I doubt Directv has to offer the AM21. If they were, it would work with the standard receivers as well, by your reasoning. They may not be able to force you get Directv-supplied locals, but I doubt they are required to integrate OTA channels into their interactive guide...

I don't know about being required but OTA channels, and sub-channels, are integrated with the guide. At least they are with my AM-21. :-)

re_nelson

06-02-11, 01:28 PM

As one year approaches since KWBU went silent, it now appears that channel 34 (RF-20) will reappear. The new calls are KDYW which implies ownership by Daystar (which owns several stations on non-commercial allotments nationwide).

FOX44CE

06-16-11, 10:49 AM

re_nelson

06-27-11, 12:39 PM

KDYW (34.1 RF 20) came on the air this morning [16 JUN 2011] in 480i with bars.

Have they removed the color bars and started with Daystar's programming yet?

I take it they are running 24/7 (regardless of the programming content) since our local LPTV (KBOP in Dallas) is now getting hammered when tropo exists. Our regulars from Waco are KWTX, KCEN, KXXV and what was KWBU (now KDYW).

alton987

06-27-11, 10:37 PM

They send out the station information incorrectly. My Windows 7 MC box won't even tune 6.1 or 6.2 because of bad data on the stations end. My TV tuner has no issues with it. Luckily I don't rely on 6.1 for NBC programming in my area so I can still record NBC via KXAN (Austin), but I would like to record some of the programming on 6.2.

Would it be possible to file a FCC complaint about this issue? Its been on going for over a year now.

Jonnyb99

09-08-11, 02:11 PM

Has anyone been able to receive digital versions of KRHD or KMAY OTA here in BCS?

WillinBryan

09-19-11, 09:56 AM

I get both of those channels. I live in Copperfield and have a Winegard Sensar amplified antenna. It's mounted on my roof. I originally bought it to try to pick up Waco ABC and NBC before 40 and 23 went HD. My signal strength for those two channels is usually around 60. They are very low power. I could probably do better if I aimed for them. I am still aimed at Waco.

elmina

09-24-11, 02:17 PM

It happened on KWKT also.
Checking with Fox for clarification.

Update: 05/05.

Our Shreveport & Lafayette stations had the same issue.
FOX says it wasn't them..............

The more than annoying audio dropouts are still disturbing FOX content OTA on KYLE. My pre/pro delivers loud pops to my HT speakers. I have to turn off the HT system and listen to the TV sound, if I want to watch FOX programming in the evening. This means I avoid KYLE if at all possible.

Please try to fix this. KRHD OTA has also had serious problems here in College Station. And recently the sound on KBTX OTA was hosed, with white noise overlying the audio track. Makes me depend more and more on my Apple TV!

FOX44CE

09-27-11, 11:39 AM

The more than annoying audio dropouts are still disturbing FOX content OTA on KYLE. My pre/pro delivers loud pops to my HT speakers. I have to turn off the HT system and listen to the TV sound, if I want to watch FOX programming in the evening. This means I avoid KYLE if at all possible.

Please try to fix this.

We have tracked this audio problem down to a gen-lock issue with our KYLE FOX surround sound decoder.
We ordered a new decoder that supports gen-lock September 20th and will install it as soon as we receive it.

The problem is intermittent and it was decided to continue operating with surround sound rather than go back to 2 channel stereo in the interim.

jwillis84

09-30-11, 01:56 AM

Hello,

Thanks for posting such useful information for a new resident to the area.

By way of introductions:

location: College Station, Texas 77845
location: Copperfield Parkway, Crescent Point, 2nd Floor Apt

antenna: Winegard SS-3000
[with the reflector grid packing film peeled off, mounted on a camera tripod, positioned inside the apartment with all blinds closed]

antenna orientation: vaguely aimed at 260 degrees

ethernet tuner: silicondust HDHR3-US, HDHomeRun Dual
ethernet tuner: firmware version: 20110925a

htpc: mac mini 2007: 10.5.8 (Snow Leopard)

dvr software: el gato: eyetv 3: version 3.5.3 (6743): epg: TVGuide

channels:

02-1 NBC, KPRC, Houston
02-2 IND, KPRC, Houston, mgm movies
03-1 CBS, KBTX, Bryan
03-2 CW, KBTX, Bryan
12-1 PBS, KAMU, College Station
12-2 PBS, KAMU, College Station, weather
12-3 PBS, KAMU, College Station, research
18-1 PBS, KLRU, Austin
18-2 PBS, KLRU, Austin, createtv
18-3 PBS, KLRU, Austin, quest-tv
25-1 ABC, KVUE, Austin
24-3 ABC, KVUE, Austin, weather
27-1 FOX, KRIV, Houston
28-1 FOX, KYLE, Bryan
10-2 CW, KIAH, Houston
39-3 USN, KIAH, Houston, universal nbc sports
49-1 IND, KPXB, Houston, ion tv
49-2 IND, KPXB, Houston, qubo tv
57-1 IND, KUBE, Houston,
57-4 IND, KUBE, Houston, equine tv
57-5 IND, KUBE, Houston, memorable entertainment tv

about 41 channels total, but the above were the strongest and most relevant to me

netflix subscriber for 1 year, but seriously thinking of going single DVD at a time only, streaming content not appealing enough

appleTV2 user but mainly for podcasts and iTunes movie rentals or purchase

not a regular commercial watcher, just too boring, skim or skip or edit out

news: google, slashdot

facebook, google+

Jonnyb99

10-02-11, 07:20 AM

Welcome to BCS jwillis84. Are channels from Houston and Austin pretty steady even during the day? I used to have an antenna mounted high on my roof and would usually get the Houston channels pretty reliably at night. I couldn't ever seem to lock on during the day though.

jwillis84

10-02-11, 02:01 PM

Very true.

I almost never tune in before 6 pm or after 10:30 pm

Being Sunday afternoon I took a look, and not only are Houston and Austin at far reduced transmission levels (can't even produce a picture but the signals are there on the signal meter) but College Station and Bryan channels have become very direction sensitive (they also appear to be at reduced transmission levels).

channels:

03-1 CBS, KBTX, Bryan
03-2 CW, KBTX, Bryan
12-1 PBS, KAMU, College Station
12-2 PBS, KAMU, College Station, weather
12-3 PBS, KAMU, College Station, research
28-1 FOX, KYLE, Bryan

elmina

10-02-11, 03:38 PM

We have tracked this audio problem down to a gen-lock issue with our KYLE FOX surround sound decoder.
We ordered a new decoder that supports gen-lock September 20th and will install it as soon as we receive it.

The problem is intermittent and it was decided to continue operating with surround sound rather than go back to 2 channel stereo in the interim.

Thanks, FOX44CE! The last two nights I have watched KYLE programming I did not notice a single audio dropout, so I assume the new equipment is on line.

I only wish the engineering staff of our other locals were as attentive and responsive.

FOX44CE

10-12-11, 04:21 PM

Thanks, FOX44CE! The last two nights I have watched KYLE programming I did not notice a single audio dropout, so I assume the new equipment is on line.

I only wish the engineering staff of our other locals were as attentive and responsive.

Fix one problem and up crops another.

Our Microwave STL transmitter in Lott has dropped output power from 2 watts to .6 watts.
During early morning and late evening hours we are experiencing pixelization and signal loss.
I have ordered a loaner unit from the manufacturer so that ours can be returned for repair.

jagouar

10-13-11, 09:46 AM

FOX44CE

10-13-11, 03:20 PM

Is this going to be a problem the next few nights? With the next game tonight wondering if I should bother even trying to watch.

Also the world series will be on fox.... it will be very important to have things fixed by then if you don't want a bunch of pissed off people here in B/CS.

Our Consulting Engineer is trying to find a power amplifier to boost power at the our KYLE Lott digital STL microwave site.
In the meantime I obtained a 7DB 7GHz Linear amplifier and installed it at the Lott site this morning.
It improved the receive signal strength at the Hearne receive site but not fully to the previous level before the failure.
I am hoping that the increase we did obtain will overcome the signal fades we have been experiencing.

jagouar

10-13-11, 03:52 PM

thx... setup the recording.... hope it stays strong enough until a real fix happens..... I'll let you know how it goes.

FOX44CE

10-21-11, 10:27 AM

thx... setup the recording.... hope it stays strong enough until a real fix happens..... I'll let you know how it goes.

We received and installed a new 7 DB Power Amplifier for the Lott Microwave site yesterday morning.
Receive levels at the Hearne receive site are back to the normal readings we had before the failure.

Let me know if you have anymore problems.:)

FOX44CE

11-30-11, 02:34 PM

It has now been 30 days since we installed the new FOX 5.1 Surround decoder on KYLE.
I assume that since I have heard no more audio dropout comments the issue is solved?

hammer32

12-17-11, 05:42 PM

Does anyone know if I can receive QAM channels (like the big three networks) on TimeWarner if I cancel tv service but keep high speed Internet?

Thanks!

Jonnyb99

12-18-11, 07:55 AM

Does anyone know if I can receive QAM channels (like the big three networks) on TimeWarner if I cancel tv service but keep high speed Internet?

Thanks!

To my knowledge, you can. I was able to do this with Suddenlink before I got rid of their service all together. I got all the locals and a few digital music channels and I was only subscribed to their Internet service.

Bob Coxner

12-18-11, 09:27 AM

Technically, they can install a trap to block the QAM when you cancel. In reality, they almost never do since they would then have to roll a truck if you start tv again.

skehl

12-21-11, 09:47 AM

FOX44CE

12-21-11, 12:41 PM

Does anyone know if I can receive QAM channels (like the big three networks) on TimeWarner if I cancel tv service but keep high speed Internet?

Thanks!
I don't do it at the house because I have DVR service, Internet and Phone.
Here at the Waco studio we have a basic cable drop.

On my office TV I get 6.1, 6.2, 10.1, 10.2, 25.1, 25.2, 25.3, 44.1, 46.1, 46.2 and 46.3.
NOTE: TWC refuses to carry or pass 44.2 (Estrella)

Bob Coxner

12-22-11, 09:30 AM

Hi, I just recently moved outside the city limits of Waco. I have decided to go with OTA TV instead of satellite. I am on top of a hill off Old Lorena Rd. I have a direct line of site to most of the area transmitters including KCEN.

The problem I am having is only with my Tivo Premiere XL. The Tivo displays channel 6-1 on 6-3 and 9-3. It displays 6-2 on 9-4 and 6-3 on 9-5. I have been going round and round with Tivo support and aren't getting anywhere. Since they have the guide data on 6-1,6-2 and 6-3 correct, I am not able to record using the programing guide.

All of my TVs map KCENs signals correctly to 6-1, 6-2 and 6-3. Has anyone else out there had any problems with KCENs signals not mapping correctly?

Thanks

Stephen

Hi neighbor. I'm near Old Lorena Rd and Chapel Rd.

Guide data for KCEN has been screwed up for about a year. I have DirecTV but I also have OTA on the DirecTV HR20-700 DVR. I need it for the weather on 25.3 but I also used to watch 6.3 when they had the occasional Mavericks or Rangers game.

If I remember correctly, the problem began when KCEN went through the 6 to 9 and back to 6 nonsense. Somewhere along the line the guide data got screwed up. I can see the program on the guide data grid but when I tune to it (with the DVR) or try to record then I get nothing. The signal is there. I have a rabbit ears antenna. The signal goes from the antenna to the DVR and is passed through to the tv. The tv can see the signal on that channel but not the DVR. That means bad guide data. I don't have the problem with 25.3.

Guide data for DirecTV is provided by Tribune Media Services. Tribune also provides guide data for Tivo.

When we went through the digital transition a few years ago there were all kinds of problems with the guide data and subchannels. I spoke several times with a rep at Tribune and eventually they were all sorted out. Then the KCEN problem came up. Again, I tried several times to get Tribune to fix it but I eventually just gave up. Now when I want to watch the Mavericks or Rangers on KCEN I just watch via the tv and not the DVR.

It's also possible that the problem is with KCEN. They have to provide the correct PSIP information to Tribune. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_and_System_Information_Protocol I remember contacting the engineer at KCEN to try to get their help in correcting the problem but I didn't get anywhere. The KWKT engineer is active here in this thread and could give better info on how this is handled.

If you want to have a go at it yourself, I think this is the person and phone number I used at Tribune. If not, they should be able to point you to the right person.

Schedule Information
Julia Young, Manager, Editorial Administration 518-792-9914 x-4184 | jyoung@tribune.com

Bob Coxner

12-22-11, 09:40 AM

More on KCEN. If you search this thread for "KCEN" you'll see that other people have had the same problem in the past, usually with Windows Media Center. For example, message 6377.

Good luck!

skehl

12-22-11, 07:09 PM

I emailed KCEN and got the following response:

We have looked into this problem extensively and have not been able to resolve it for you and many other TIVO users. We have even bought a TIVO Premiere Box to try and replicate the problem, without success. Our TIVO seems to function fine. We have not yet been able to see the problem in action. We suspect that it may have been related to the fact that we first identified our DTV signal as Channel 9. Some TIVO units may have been setup during this time and the guide issue is a conflict with a previous channel scan. It might be helpful for us to see one of the TIVO systems that is giving you trouble.

Thanks
Cody

Cody Blount
Dir. of Operations Technology
KCEN-TV

Bob Coxner

12-23-11, 09:07 AM

Well, it's not just Tivos that have a problem. As I said, my DirecTV DVR also has the same problem. At least for my DVR it's not related to a channel "scan" since it can't do a scan, it's totally reliant on guide data. If a channel doesn't appear in the guide data, or is incorrect in some way, then the DVR can't record it, even though the signal is passing through the DVR and can be seen live with the tv tuner.

Based on my experience dealing with the same problem during the digital transition, I'll take a large bet that the problem is either with guide data from Tribune Media or with bad PSIP data being provided by KCEN.

You're lucky to be on a hill. KCEN is the toughest signal for me. I can see the lights of the KXXV tower at night at compass heading 192. KWKT is about the same distance at 195 degrees and KWTX is at 193 and roughly the same distance. So, all three of those are easy to grab even with rabbit ears. KCEN is further away and at 161 degrees, so it's a bit of a pain.

Bob Coxner

12-24-11, 01:38 PM

A heads up for those of us with DirecTV DVRs. We're scheduled to get the new HD graphical user interface downloaded to our DVRs on January 11th. I've seen it and it's a 100% improvement over the current interface. Scrolling the grid is almost instantaneous and it's all in HD.

sivartk

01-12-12, 06:15 PM

moghedien14

01-13-12, 02:28 AM

Has anyone had any problems lately with the OTA channels? I live in Round Rock but have been able to pick up all but Fox 44 for the past 5 years without a problem. The antenna hasn't moved, but in the past 2-3 days, none of the channels have been coming in.

Any ideas?

I'm in Georgetown and I'm able to pickup 44, 10, 25, 46 and 6(1/2 of the time) with indoor antennas, so I haven't seen the change you describe...

sivartk

01-13-12, 11:32 AM

I'm in Georgetown and I'm able to pickup 44, 10, 25, 46 and 6(1/2 of the time) with indoor antennas, so I haven't seen the change you describe...

Hmmm...maybe I need to check some other tuners and see if i can pick them up.

Jonnyb99

01-27-12, 09:40 AM

hodedofome

01-27-12, 07:17 PM

tsanltr

01-30-12, 09:01 PM

I too lost my Grande HD channels 3 or 4 days ago in my MythTV system. I did a scan an could find a couple of crap channels, but not the local HD channels that they are supposed to carry unencrypted. :mad:

I know the local Grande manager and I am going to call him to see what is up.

pistonrod8

01-31-12, 08:13 AM

Anyone getting QAM channels from Grande? I have for a few years now, but tonight in Windows Media Center 7 I'm getting the message "the current service is encrypted and it cannot be viewed at this time." Did they encrypt their QAM channels? That would really suck if they did.

I too lost my Grande HD channels 3 or 4 days ago in my MythTV system. I did a scan an could find a couple of crap channels, but not the local HD channels that they are supposed to carry unencrypted. :mad:

I know the local Grande manager and I am going to call him to see what is up.

Same here. No unencrypted QAM anymore. I called the tech and of course they've never even heard of unencrypted channels, or QAM, or why I don't receive them anymore. I'm fed up and will cancel the cable and go back to OTA. Any other show I want, I'll just get from other sources.

hodedofome

01-31-12, 08:32 AM

The main reason I switched to Grande was because I lost a few main QAM channels with TWC. After I switched, I really liked Grande. Service uptime was better and support all around was better. Not to mention they have way faster internet speeds than TWC. I don't know if I'd switch back to TWC, but can anyone confirm QAM channels working on TWC?

tsanltr

01-31-12, 10:55 AM

Just got off the phone with the Waco Grande manager. He said that last Thursday they moved that channels around. Last night he got a call from his neighbor about this problem. Looked into it today and said that they moved the channels again this morning and that we should be able to see them. Look for them on channels 118 to 120. Told him I would try and that I would call back if I still had trouble.

hodedofome

01-31-12, 08:33 PM

I went home tonight and even still, I cannot pick up the Grande QAM channels directly on my Samsung Plasma. I WAS able to scan and find the channels on my HDHomerun. Here's a screenshot of what I was able to get http://twitpic.com/8e6imi

I had to manually put in the channel names under the Guide tab in the HDHomerun software. When I scan for channels in WMC7, it doesn't find anything. I'm having to manually add the channels and listings. I've only tried KWKT, but it works, so I'm assuming the rest of them will work in WMC7 as well.

tsanltr

01-31-12, 08:41 PM

I'm still having problems too. I called back the local manager. Here is what he sent me:

<begin quote>
Here is what I am getting on my TV with a basic trap now beside the analog basic channels.

94.1 CSPN2
106.2 TBN
112.1 PPV Preview
118.1 KWKT-HD
118.2 Estrella TV
118.3 KXXV-HD
118.4 Telemundo
118.5 KXXV Weather Now
119.1 KNCT-HD
119.2 KCEN-HD
119.3 MyTX
119.4 Pentagon TV
119.5 Create TV
119.6 MeTv
120.1 KWTX-HD
120.2 CW-HD
120.5 WCCT-HD
125.1 EWTN
129.8 Daystar
132.8 Jewelry TV
<end quote>

I am trying to get the channels to work with my hdHomeRun, model number HDHR-US.

I'll you know if I have any success.

tsanltr

01-31-12, 09:26 PM

More clues:

When I try to scan for unencrypted channels in Mythtv using a pcHDTV HD-5500, every channel that should be unencrypted comes across as follows:

Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (92)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (93)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (93)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (94)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (106)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (112)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (118)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (118)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (118)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (118)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (118)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (119)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (119)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (119)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (119)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (119)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (119)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (120)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (120)
Updating 1008-0 as 1008_0 on QAM-256 Channel (120)

In my layman analysis of the errors, it looks like a config problem on Grande's side.

tsanltr

01-31-12, 10:11 PM

I let the Grande manager know that there were still problems. He just let me know that they think it may an equipment issue on their side. They have piece of equipment coming tomorrow that they hope will resolve this isseu.

hodedofome

02-01-12, 07:37 AM

Yeah it appears something is up as scanning for channels on my tv and media center doesn't work, but like I said, I'm able to add them manually and get it to work.

psxnation

02-01-12, 12:12 PM

ok ive got time warner and my clear qam isnt getting any NBC feeds? Anyone else confirm? I am getting the PBS, CBS, ABC, FOX, TBS, YNN, CSPAN, SHopping stuff...

tsanltr

02-01-12, 09:12 PM

Email from the Grande manager:

Maintenance will be performed and equipment inserted tonight around midnight. Should be working in the morning. Sorry for the delay.

tsanltr

02-02-12, 07:00 AM

Looks like all of the channels I have been looking for are back, except for 120.1 - KWTX-HD and 120.2 - CW-HD.

It doesn't look like channel 120 is scanning on my equipment.

tsanltr

02-03-12, 06:34 AM

Looks like everythng is working now.

psxnation

02-03-12, 04:34 PM

tsan u are on grande? what channels do you have through clear qam? on time warner Im getting the 3 abc feeds, 2 fox feeds, cpsan, ynn news, ynn sports, tbs, 2 shopping channels... no cbs or nbc at this time.....im thinking of switching

Jonnyb99

02-06-12, 09:03 AM

Watching KCEN via D* last night was unbearable for the first half of the Super Bowl. There was a ton of pixelation and the picture kept breaking up. I switched to KAGS via my OTA antenna and the picture was perfect. I turned KCEN back on in the 3rd quarter and it looked fine.

Did anyone else have issues with KCEN (via D*, OTA, etc.)?

FOX44CE

02-06-12, 10:42 AM

Jonnyb99

02-06-12, 12:22 PM

Maybe a D* issue then. Although I checked several other channels and they were fine. I'm just glad I reconnected my OTA antenna recently. With the storm on Friday and then the game last night, I've really needed it.

Gandalf007

02-07-12, 02:31 AM

Just wanted to give an update on local HD here in BCS. I finally reconnected my OTA antenna after several months and found the following:

3.1 - KBTX (CBSHD)
3.2 - CWHD
12.1 - KAMU (PBSHD)
12.2 - KAMU (weather in SD)
12.3 - KAMU in SD
23.1 - KAGS (NBCHD)
23.2 - MyTV in SD
23.3 - MeTV in SD
28.1 - KYLE (FOXHD)
28.2 - Spanish channel in SD

I wasn't able to tune in KRHD (ABCHD). Has anyone had any luck with that one?
Works fine for me most of the time with a 4-bay bowtie in the attic, no preamp (I plan to add one though). I'm in SE Bryan, 11 mi from their transmitter... their signal might be harder to get in south College Station. It's definitely lower on the signal strength meter than any other local station.

I actually have more problems with KBTX; I think I need to remove the reflector from my antenna. I have it aimed at the weaker channels in NW Bryan and Carlos is almost directly behind it. Hopefully with a preamp I can still get a good signal on 23 and 40.

I did notice a big improvement in channel 40 reception after aiming my antenna with a compass -- turns out my estimate based on the map was about 30 degrees off!

Their subchannels are 40.1 for ABC HD and 40.2 for Telemundo SD. For some reason they've kept their old LP analog Telemundo transmitter (ch. 18, mounted lower on the same tower) online. I suppose it's useful as a debugging aid -- in my case, I get a snowy but watchable picture on it. More importantly, no ghosting.

I also discovered at the same time that apparently the religious channel on analog 47 has gone dark. (No DTV signal on that channel either.)