Jamie,
Let us know how it works for you! Also a tip when you install it, make sure you tie some string
around the two screens so that they will touch each other. That willl give you VHF reception strong enough to receive WNCT. I wonder if that Pre-amp will allow enough VHF leakage to work for 9? You might try with and W/O the amp and see what works best.

Wow, the atmosphere is being bery good this morning. I am getting DT from all over the place, even Norfolk. I wish it was like this all of the time.

Yea I read that its best to tie the screens together. Im going to use some very small tie straps.

Hooked up the antenna, and I got it up around 1:30p, WRAL and other RDU channels had a signal in the 50-60's usually that time of day RDU channels dont work. Couldnt get WNCT tried everything no go, finally noticed on the bottom of the preamp it said UHF preamp, so hooked my old preamp back up and had WNCT back. Tried to aim my old 3020 antenna but couldnt get signals like I liked, unhooked cable from 3020 and still had full 90+signal on WNCT, so I thru my old radioshack UHF back up so I could get a good signal from Newbern range, took the large 3020 down. So if any sendsin for a antenna, may want to request a VHF/UHF antenna.

I think ch.9 has fixed their signal I have done nothing and they are locking in on 9-1 and 9-2.
Talk to engineer at 9 last week and he said they were working on some stuff that might help my problem I was having.

igoew what was your problem? I kept having slight pixelation for a long time, and thought it was on my end.... Maybe not? I have always gotten WNCT on 9.1 and 9.2

Hooked up the antenna, and I got it up around 1:30p, WRAL and other RDU channels had a signal in the 50-60's usually that time of day RDU channels dont work. Couldnt get WNCT tried everything no go, finally noticed on the bottom of the preamp it said UHF preamp, so hooked my old preamp back up and had WNCT back. Tried to aim my old 3020 antenna but couldnt get signals like I liked, unhooked cable from 3020 and still had full 90+signal on WNCT, so I thru my old radioshack UHF back up so I could get a good signal from Newbern range, took the large 3020 down. So if any sendsin for a antenna, may want to request a VHF/UHF antenna.

Yea when you said 7775 I knew that was UHF only. That's why I was wondering if it would work for WNCT. You should get better results with the 4228 than you did with the 3020 though. I don't think we need a VHF antenna in this area anymore unless you are 50 or more miles away. You might do even better if you put that bow tie on a rotor and did away with the second antenna. I need to do the same thing.

How's it working tonight? I am getting Charleston strong, so the atmosphere is ripe.

So if any sendsin for a antenna, may want to request a VHF/UHF antenna.

I kinda suspect the reason they sent you a UHF only antenna is because they're not worried as to whether or not you can get channel 9. Their DT is on channel 53 and the 4228 is perfect for that.

JSPenc,
Ch. 9 would not hold its signal the problem was on 2 of my digtail tuners the panasconic plasma and the H20 dtv. It would hold on the HR10-250 dvr. I tried alot of things. I had a 95%signal with a High band vhf antenna so i know it was not the antenna. I would look at the signal level which was 95% and it would drop to 0 and come back up to 95% it just would not lock in the station. But they must have fixed it cause it works now.

Just got a mailing from Suddenlink today in Greenville. Looks like they are going to add some HD channels in January. Now here's the bad part. They are moving Discovery HD, ESPN HD, HD Net, and HD Net movies to a new teir that will cost an additional $7.95 a month. You still get the broadcast HD channels and a new channel, TNT HD, as part of the regular offering. They are adding HGTV HD and The Food Network HD (whoopty do) in the teir with Discovery and ESPN. Basicaly, To continue getting ESPN HD and Discovery HD it will cost an additional $7.95 month and the only thing you are getting new is TNT, The Food Network, and HGTV. And still no ESPN 2 HD!!!! Without the upgrade you only get the broadcast HDs and TNT HD and you lose ESPN HD, Discovery HD, and the HD Nets. What a rip off................ Basicaly, a hidden rate hike just for HD users that already have to pay to rent a HD receiver and pay again just to get ESPN in HD which also comes in basic cable......... Pitiful!!!!

On Directv we currently pay $9.99 for ESPN HD, ESPN2 HD, UNIVERSAL HD, TNT HD, DISCOVERY HD, HDNET MOVIES, AND HDNET. We dont pay any HD box fees or only $4.99 for additional receivers.

Directv also gives us free HD events channel as well, NFL HD and NBA HD (select events. Also The 101 channel HD (weekends)

On Directv we currently pay $9.99 for ESPN HD, ESPN2 HD, UNIVERSAL HD, TNT HD, DISCOVERY HD, HDNET MOVIES, AND HDNET. We dont pay any HD box fees or only $4.99 for additional receivers.

Directv also gives us free HD events channel as well, NFL HD and NBA HD (select events. Also The 101 channel HD (weekends)

Word has it Directv is getting ready to add a butt-load of HD channels. Over 100. I'd jump on the bandwagon now but the time will come when all there is are HD channels.

Word has it Directv is getting ready to add a butt-load of HD channels. Over 100. I'd jump on the bandwagon now but the time will come when all there is are HD channels.They'll have the capacity to air over 150 national HD channels. There are only a dozen or so national HD channels excluding Comcast's HD sports channels, FSN regional HD channels, etc...

Directv HR20 owners- The national release of 0x10B that enables OTA and networking of music and photos from your pc is now being released, force now or wait till later tonight for automatic update.

Did everybody go to WNCT.com and vote? I think tomorrow they announce the winner of the tree competition.

Merry Christmas to everyone!

I received my antenna from WRAL on the 22nd. I never heard anything back from them so I didn't know if I was going to be getting one or not. I emailed them on the 8th. They sent me a ChannelMaster 3022, I will see if it will pick up better than the RS U-75R. Thanks for letting us know about this offer from them!!

Saturday FEDEX brought me my free antenna from WRAL.

I got a 8 bay antenna 4228, and they even gave me a 7775 channel master pre amp.

If you still have your HDTV tuner or TV receipt, send it in.

Matt at WRAL said I was out of there area but I told him that most of us here get there signal and he ordered me one.

What a deal.


I got an email reply on the 24th....they shot me down.....said no way possible that I could receive their signal even if I built a 300' tower....I live in Morehead so I guess it was worth a try

Yea the station mgr himself sent my father in law a email turning him down, they said it was their goal to have everyone in the RDU market beable to view WRAL and WRAZ, and being in the Washington Greenville New Bern market that he didnt fit into their goal.
Funny they gave me one and he is my neighbor.

A few weeks later his showed up.

Yeah they sent me one and I live in Greenville. Wonder if there are other, underlying criterior?

I got one in Ayden. A 4228. No amp. Works great!

Has anyone seen channel 9.3 yet? I wonder if they changed their minds about putting it back up? I wish one of the three locals would put up a full screen radar again, even if it's only every five minutes.

I asked the weather guy for Ch 9 when they were putting weather back on 9-3 in Ayden recently. He said by Christmas so apparently they are working on it.

WITN is airing different shows on each of it's channels. Right now on 7.1 & 7.2 they have Ford's funeral. On 7.3 Jeopardy, and on Analog 7 Jeopardy! :)

Getting ready to see the ball drop on Suddenlink digital channel 712 (12-1 WCTI) and getting a lot of pixilation every 5 to 10 seconds. Even regular channel 12 is snowy. All the other channels are fine. I have an antenna too, but it is UHF only and pointed towards Raleigh. So, I can't test to see if it is only Suddenlink's problem. Seems that this is happening more and more. Suddenlink's anwer is to send a tech out, but there is nothing wrong with my wiring or TV. Just wondering if anybody else is seeing this same problem on Suddenlink here in Greenville?

Getting ready to see the ball drop on Suddenlink digital channel 712 (12-1 WCTI) and getting a lot of pixilation every 5 to 10 seconds. Even regular channel 12 is snowy. All the other channels are fine. I have an antenna too, but it is UHF only and pointed towards Raleigh. So, I can't test to see if it is only Suddenlink's problem. Seems that this is happening more and more. Suddenlink's anwer is to send a tech out, but there is nothing wrong with my wiring or TV. Just wondering if anybody else is seeing this same problem on Suddenlink here in Greenville?

I see the same thing on 12 here in Wilson and I use an antenna. I first noticed it last night and it's still there this morning. The signal meter on the tv shows a very stable 62. Weird.

I am seeing the pixelation on digital and grainy pic on analog also. It must be a satellite issue from the studio to the transmittion site.

Similarly I have been having the same problem on the digital FOX station I pick up from Wilmington... (WSFX). But only at night after 10 PM... I figured it was atmospheric for that channel.

Thought it was my antenna set up, glad its not.

UNC-NC is running a Andy Griffith Show marathon, looks as this show will be a regular now on this channel. Episodes scheduled over the next 2 weeks on my Directv HD receiver 2 week guide.

Is WITN 7.3 running different programming now or still sd of 7.1?
My HR20 HD box currently want let me scan in channels, It only shows channels that they pass guide data on for, Im missing 7.3 and 14.1 write now.

7.3 programming today is the same as 7.1

Why is it that Andy marathons are always on when there is plenty of Football on? LOL

Murder She Wrote marathons are on also on Biography.

Style network is also now activated on Directv 235... I would rather have more music channels of MTV, CMT or VH-1

In case there are any new comers to digital reception, here is a crude map I put together of the market, and where you should be aiming your directional outdoor antenna for reception. If your reading and didn't know where the signals are I hope this helps! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/jsp699/Greenville_NC-1.gifhttp://www.unctv.org/whatson/images/0_transmitter_map_lg.jpg

The second map is from unctv.org

Able to get WYDO DT here in Washington but have to reaim my antenna to get it, hopefully when they turn up the power It will come in with out moving my antenna, not going to adjust my antenna now being that they only have a SD channel that I already have on Directv.

FOX 14 update


This is from Don Fisher at WYDO/WFXI
We are increasing the transmitter power shortly by adding a new transmitter by the end of the 1st qtr. We could have this online by mid February, but most likely the end of March. We are also replacing our microwave path from Morehead to Ayden, Which will allow us to deliver HD. This equipment is coming in now and all of these projects will be done by the end of the 1st qtr. With the increased power, you should not have any issues recieing the HD over the air. I just met with our engineers and our consultant project mgr last night and we've agreed this is priority one.
We've discussed some potential with sub channels, but nothing we want to talk about now.


Maybe in the next 2 months we will have FOX HD!!!

I'd kill just to get WYDO SD. I can easily see the tower from my house and it just blows both my HDTV and SDTV away. I get nothing. I've tried turning all of my antennas (RS 10 footer, 4228 and RS rabbit ears) in every direction and still nothing. I wonder if I removed the antenna completely if I could get it. Fortunately I can get WRAZ about 95% of the time.

I'll admit that I'm glad to get WYDO when I can. I've been having trouble with RAZ; they blew a tube not too long ago and I was having trouble keeping a solid lock. Not sure if that was the problem last night or if it was just atmospheric, but could keep a solid lock on Fox 50. So I went with backup YDO. Even though it's not HD, their digital channel is much better than their SD channel on Dish Network. And that's the nicest thing I"m ever going to say about WYDO. *LOL* Well, at least until they go HD...

Hey now I can update my map again! If they get going soon... LOL So both WFXI and WYDO will increase power? I hope I can get WYDO from here and not have to aim back east for WFXI.

I have been getting both MyRDC and WRAZ in the evenings lately off and on.

Isn't WFXI on Dish Network? And WYDO on DIrectv?

Yeah, it's FXI on Dish probably. I just think of them as one and the same entity.

Yes WFXI is on Dish and WYDO on Directv.

Dish has it local recieve facility at WCTI in New Bern, and Directv is at WNCT in Greenville.

Dish also uses WUNM for UNC off the WCTI tower.
Directv uses WUNK for UNC.

I have to say that WFXI here on TW cable channel 8 looks better than any other local. I find it hard to believe that they are still picking them up with an antenna. They may be getting them in Newport and sending the signal from there. I know they have to be doing this with the digital signal.
I figured WFXI looked just as good if not better with dish as it does with cable... guess not!

Colors are really washed out on WFXI on Dish. OTA WYDO looks 1000x better. Ok, so that's the 2nd nice thing ya'll have made me say about YDO today. This can't go on... *LOL*

Is Ken12 still with us? Maybe he can confirm that Dish is really picking up WFXI and not WYDO?
WYDO analog here looks a lot more washed out than WFXI does. WFXI also broadcasts an MTS stereo signal and WYDO does not.

Eastern, can you take a picture of the Directv local receive antennas and post them for us? I am kind of curious to see how that is set up.

Hello,

I am new to Directv. I know they do not offer local HD but it seems I can get them with an off air antenna. Does anyone have information on how well this has worked in New Bern. I'm not allowed to mount an antenna on my roof so I need a small one.

Thanks

Ken12 has posted I believe in the past that he has used a small antenna and had success with all the locals with it. Of course this doesn't include FOX. But ABC, CBS, NBC & PBS are readily available from your area in HD, and other digitals like CW and ENC-TV are on too. Not sure about MyNetwork from Jacksonville though...

You might try an antenna's direct Lacross if your looking for something that doesn't look like an
antenna. All it is though is a 2-bay UHF mounted inside a square case.

I'm not allowed to mount an antenna on my roof so I need a small one.

Who told you that you can't mount an antenna? Here are the rules from the FCC regarding antennas. You may want to print it out and show them to whomever told you that you can't mount an antenna.


http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html

another window is opening tonight and tommorow night 11p-1:30a for HR20 owners for a software update before it goes national.
Must reset box, them hit 02468 at welcome screen.

This update fixes alot of issues
caller id
hdmi
faster guide
ota tuner issues
trick play
audio issues
black screen
and alot more
go to www.dbstalk.com
for more info.

USA Network, Sci Fi Channel, TBS, Cartoon Network, CNN and other channels are readying to launch simulcast high-definition networks by the end of the year.

CNN announced plans to launch an HD network in September at its opening session at the Television Critics Association's semiannual press tour, while an NBC Universal spokesperson confirmed the company will launch a "suite of HD networks." NBCU would not set an exact time table. A Turner spokesperson also confirmed HD networks for TBS and Cartoon Network. (read more - TV Week (http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=11336))

USA Network, Sci Fi Channel, TBS, Cartoon Network, CNN and other channels are readying to launch simulcast high-definition networks by the end of the year.

You can probably thank *TV for that.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/directvhd010807.htm
http://www.tvpredictions.com/dtvanalysis010907.htm

Directv announced that they will have 100 hd channels this year and has over 70 agreements already.

These channels already announced.
A&E
BRAVO
CARTOON NETWORK
CNN
FOOD NETWORK
FX
HGTV
MTV
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC
NFL NETWORK
SCI FI
SPEED CHANNEL
TBS
HISTORY CHANNEL
THE WEATHER CHANNEL
USA
REGIONAL SPORTS NETWORKS
YES
COMCAST SPORTS
NESN
FOX SPORTS NET
ALL AVAILABLE PREMIUM MOVIE HD CHANNELS

Most of the new channels will be launched in the 3rd qtr.

Directv announced that they will have 100 hd channels this year and has over 70 agreements already.

These channels already announced.
A&E
BRAVO
CARTOON NETWORK
CNN
FOOD NETWORK
FX
HGTV
MTV
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC
NFL NETWORK
SCI FI
SPEED CHANNEL
TBS
HISTORY CHANNEL
THE WEATHER CHANNEL
USA
REGIONAL SPORTS NETWORKS
YES
COMCAST SPORTS
NESN
FOX SPORTS NET
ALL AVAILABLE PREMIUM MOVIE HD CHANNELS

Most of the new channels will be launched in the 3rd qtr.It will be a huge disappointment to me if most of the content on these channels is SD in stretch-o-vision like TNT-HD...

They better not be HD lite again! LOL

It will be a huge disappointment to me if most of the content on these channels is SD in stretch-o-vision like TNT-HD...

Just for my own knowledge...

Have you tried setting your TV to 4:3 when watching "Stretch-O-Vision"? I was just wondering what it looked like.

Just for my own knowledge...

Have you tried setting your TV to 4:3 when watching "Stretch-O-Vision"? I was just wondering what it looked like.I can watch my local MyNetworkTV affiliate or TNT-HD (shows like Charmed, etc) for stretch-o-vision without doing anything. It looks like fat, bloated people... VERY unnatural...

It's being advertised on WCTI-12 that the ACC games are on ENC-TV! :D Run out and get a Digital receiver, or a TV capable of picking up OTA DTV if you don't have it now. Best Buy, Circuit City have these.
If you have Direct HD just plug in your UHF antenna to the port in back.
Analog cable people down here still don't get ENC, and neither do direct customers without an antenna.

Hi, have a question just got a free upgrade from my dinasour Hughes E86 HD recever to a H20, the first that Direct Tv sent me was brand new and manufacture 12/06 but the acess card would not slide in, so it had a malfunction and they sent me another H20 manufacture 1/06 and a refurbished one.

The 12/06 model is about 25% bigger then the old manufacture H20, is their a difference between them? I guess their must be otherwise why would the latest manufacturing date of 12/06 be so much bigger??

Does any one know the difference if any?

I can watch my local MyNetworkTV affiliate or TNT-HD (shows like Charmed, etc) for stretch-o-vision without doing anything. It looks like fat, bloated people... VERY unnatural...

I understand that. I wanted to know if you can adjust your TV to compensate for it?

Jamie,
How do you like the HR-20 as far as recording compared to the the hr10-250

I like the HR20. The only thing that I do not like is not being able to scan in additional ota channels.
Directv provides guide data for the ota channels and does not use the psip data from the stations. So if Tribune is not listing a channel the HR20 will not get it.
Right now im missing WITN 7.3.
They just added WYDO and WFIX DT to the guide.
They say that the scan function will be added later.

I also miss being able to toggle between to tuners, but thats not a big deal.

I like having the interactive functions.
Also the one touch record is alot nicer than Tivo, just hit the button once and its recording, twice sets a season pass and a third time it deletes.
Also the guide is quicker, and when setting recordings theres no screens to have to go thru.


Also if you have a router you can run a network cable to the HR20 and view your photo and music off you computers that are on your network.
And soon videos.

Also like the one line guide, just hit the blue button on the remote.
Plus soon youll be able to have broadband on demand videos go thru the HR20.

Directv is updating the software every2-3 weeks and continues to work out the little bugs and it is becoming a nice reciever.
And later this year Directv is saying theyll have atleast 60-70 channels in HD.
Alot of major networks are working with Directv to change over to HD.
See Directv's CES press release.

Thanks,
sounds good, I may consider one at some point I have a H20 which i have had to send back 2 before this one and a hr10 has been great. Will the HR20 let you put in another market for off air?

Do our FOX stations broadcast only in analog? I have their HD channels listed, but I get no feed.

Yes you can select 2 markets.
And WYDO is in SDTV on low power, being tested. HDTV should be ready in the next 2 months according to the head of WYDO/WFXI.

For the newbs, here is the map again of the current FOX coverage (locally) in this market, and all the other channels are at full pwr.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/jsp699/Greenville_NC-1.gif

Jamie is that 4228 bowtie antenna working as good or better than your other antenna did?

yes the same maybe a little better

HR20 Owners!!!

New beta download out now version 0119
by force update method.
reset then welcome screen hit 02468 on remote.

Tonight and tommorow night 11p-1:30a est.

go to www.dbstalk.com
for more info

Anyone still getting THE TUBE 28.2???

Anyone still getting THE TUBE 28.2???

I looked for it the other day and noticed it was gone.

The Tube is no longer available on Sinclair owned stations, such as WRDC-DT.

The Tube is no longer available on Sinclair owned stations, such as WRDC-DT.Does anyone know the REAL reason why Sinclair dropped it?

I heard through an unofficial source that shall remain nameless to protect the identity (since Sinclair people lurk the local threads) that it had to do with the new EAS and E/I FCC rules for subchannels that started Jan 1.

I noticed last week on WITN 24/7 Weather channel that they were airing STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE. I guess they have to air some education childrens programming now. E/I

THE TUBE is still on in Wilmington on 26-2. So far the only sub-channels I have seen EAS alerts come in on are WWAY 3.2 WECT-6.2 and ENC-TV.(The in-house map systems/crawls) Next weather event I will try and check them all again.

I heard through an unofficial source that shall remain nameless to protect the identity (since Sinclair people lurk the local threads) that it had to do with the new EAS and E/I FCC rules for subchannels that started Jan 1.Heard the same thing on another thread. The ABC (had radar sweep), NBC (had radar sweep), CBS (had radar sweep), CW, and MNT (had The Tube) affiliates in Hampton Roads (SE VA) have NO subchannels... :D The FOX affiliate has a local weather channel like WeatherPlus. PAX is multicasting, as are the two PBS outlets...

We're expecting to see radar pop up on our CBS again at any time. I hope it happens before the next round of tornadic weather moves in.

Be sure to watch Newschannel 12 tonight! We went to the aquarium today, and what a mob!
The reporter at 12 was just ahead of us as we pulled in and when we went in he was filming the large mouth Bass.

People were parked a mile away to get in.

I heard through an unofficial source that shall remain nameless to protect the identity (since Sinclair people lurk the local threads) that it had to do with the new EAS and E/I FCC rules for subchannels that started Jan 1.

My guess is they (Sinclair) never got paid. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Directv HR20 HD DVR OWNERS

Another release canidate software is being released Friday night and Saturday night, NO release notes or version number available yet.
Its being called RAVEN for now.
11p-1:30a by force upgrade 02468.

Directv subs

Check channel 385

See if you are getting the CW.

Its the Baltimore CW that we had before.
Im getting it and still get WNCTDT CW on 15.

See if you are getting the CW.

Its the Baltimore CW that we had before.
Im getting it and still get WNCTDT CW on 15.

I have it here too. I guess that will only last until someone at 9 sees it and complains that they getting ripped off on local spots. I prefer the Baltimore CW since it doesn't have so many used car infomercials. What's up with all of those anyway?

Ive read on other sites that they requested a waiver over night and within 30 mins the channel came on.

I wonder if this network falls under the same rules as the national nets do?

HR20 owners dont forget you can get the new beta version software download tonight and Sat night 11p-1:30A by force upgrade.

Some people I know in the area are having some difficultly with their H20/HR20 5 lnb dish setup from Directv. I want to see what the signal levels are for those in the area on the 6 active Ka Transponders.

If you have a H20 or HR20 with the newer 5 lnb Dish from Directv, could you go:

Menu - Select

Setting - Select

Setup - Select

Sat & Ant - Select

View Sat Signals - Select

Arrow up to - ir + and keep hitting to get to Satellite 103 Network 14

The first 6 tansponders should be active - and you might only have a reading on the first few.

If you can give me those 6 transponder signals and note what County you are in it would be helpful - and also allow others to check their signal in this area as there seem to be some dishes that are not aligned properly - as I know one member here had readings in the teens which he should have higher.

Thank you for your help.

99sat
0 97 0 94 0

103 sat
0 99 60 32 73 74

Beaufort co

Interesting, so 99W is active for you? They are not even activated on the H20 in the last software, iirc, thus they could not be carrying HD-LIL at this point - but only up for testing.

Thank you for the assistance.

You may want to check your dish allignment, the local installers think that the 99 and 103 sats are not even up, they said they cant even allign it, I told them that they were and they had HD locals in several markets up already.
When they installed my 5 lnb dish they just got the signal set for 101, 110, 119, I went back and adjusted and got my signal.
Same on my father in laws.
I have a couple of friends that dont get a signal either. When my installer was here I called Directv advance support to have her tell the installer that the KA sats were up. She was very upset that the local installers here didnt know how to correctly set up the 5 lnb dish. I told Directv that once they start putting MPEG 4 HD out they are going to have alot of call with folks not getting a signal.

You have to follow the instructions on the set up of the 5 lnb dish to get a good signal.

The signal on the KA band is MUCH narrower than the KU. You can loose the KA signal completely before you see ANY degregation of the KU. Sounds like the installers are aligning on the KU signals and not the KA which is what D* says you MUST do when setting up the 5 LNB dishes.

I have installed an AT9 myself with the equipment that D* recommends - the Accutrac meter which is a $150 POS.

The meters that they recommend do not even measure Ka signal - only Ku.

And that is why they have this convoluted installation - which if it is not done correctly, does not peak the Ka properly.

Its also why many dishes are misaligned.

The worst part of the entire install (and this happened to me) is that by going with their instructions, the first thing you do is align to 101W and then change the voltage and tone to go to 119W. Then you do the convaluted adjustment for the Ka.

The problem is, because of the built in switch and the way D* works, you can align at first to 110W instead of 101W, then go for the rest of the entire install, getting proper readings and never know it until it doesn't work (I know - it happened to me). That is too easy of a mistake to happen and I *assumed* that all the steps would not work if you were on the wrong bird.

Because they have no method for ACTUALLY adjusting to the Ka lnbs, you would never know.

The only way I finally figured it out after nothing was coming in and I knew I had all the signals according to their instructions on the roof as when finally on SAT 101 while every transponder was 0 I finally realized I had a reading on 28-30-32 - the 110W Transponders.

AND, if people think Ku Band Rain Fade is a problem, wait til they see the errors with Ka when bad weather is around - especially if not perfectly peaked.

I peaked my 101 and 119 then adjusted the KA sats, kept playing with it until I got all my signals high as I could, its pretty close to the settings that the setup screen shows. The installer was off tilt by 10 ticks.

Anyone watching ENC-TV? The picture looks real dark. It looked dark on the game that was on last week as well.

I have a question for anybody who watched the NFL championship games yesterday. I seemingly have a problem with the CBS feed. When I watched the Bears/Ain'ts game on 50 (thanks for the antenna guys) the picture was crystal clear and error free regardless of how fast the action was moving. When the Indy/Pats game came on whenever the action would get fast moving there would be like a blockyness in the video. It happened the week before too during the playoffs. Has anybody else noticed this?

Every thing was ok at my house on wral

Every thing was ok at my house on wral

I should have been more specific. I can't lock onto WRAL about 50% of the time so we were watching WNCT.

WNCT has a better picture to me anyway. And the Dolby seems to be balanced better.

This question may be more appropriate in the hardware forum, but I'll ask it here. I have a Samsung DLP TV with a built in ATSC tuner. This tuner also has a built in LNA. I have an attic mounted antenna attached to this TV. Late last year I had some problems with the optical out plug and Samsung had to replaced the entire control board to fix the issue. Ever since then when I enable the LNA on distant channels the channel goes out and shows no signal. It does not matter if the station is close by, only on distant stations do I have this problem. With the LNA turned off everything works fine. Does anybody have an idea on what may be going on? My neighbor has the exact same TV with the exact same antenna mounted in his attic and he does not have this issue.

WCTI DT ABC-HD
WCTI DT ENC-TV
Both have dark tint, I wish 12.3 could get a little better pq.
When ABC HD is airing the picture is good, but the local 4x3 is terrible.

Anything 4X3 on my Samsung DLP is horrible. I have tried everything I can to try to get D*tv to come in halfway decent with no luck. I do not have D*tv HD. Some channels on D*tv come in acceptable while others are so bad I can't watch them. I'm almost thinking that my dishes aren't aligned properly. Any thoughts on the matter?

I have a Samsung DLP TV with a built in ATSC tuner. This tuner also has a built in LNA. I have an attic mounted antenna attached to this TV. Late last year I had some problems with the optical out plug and Samsung had to replaced the entire control board to fix the issue. Ever since then when I enable the LNA on distant channels the channel goes out and shows no signal. It does not matter if the station is close by, only on distant stations do I have this problem. With the LNA turned off everything works fine.

I don't have this problem with my Samsung DLP either. Whenever you're troubleshooting anything be it TV reception problems, working on a car or whatever the first thing I look at is what do I know is different from before the problem occured. Since you didn't have the problem before they serviced your TV and you did have the problem afterwards I'd have to say that they did something when they serviced your TV. I would call them and explain the problem and see if they will come back and fix it.

ENC looks a bit better tonight. It still is a little dark though, to the point on red colors it looks blurry.

I talked to a representative from Suddenlink here in Greenville yesterday. They said they would begin offering WFXI Fox in HD in a couple of months along with a couple more HD channels.

Todays game (Virginia and Clemson) I can pick up on ENC-TV and WSFX-DT. Picture on ENC is much better than before, and is better than WSFX. Their picture looks faded. Picture on ENC looks bright and sharp.

This is my first post, I actually sent Suddenlink a couple of hate emails in the past year questioning why their service is so poor and so far behind in terms of technology compared to other cable and satelitte competitors. I also asked about the lack of a Fox HD channel also and was referred to contact the company. I since have emailed and been responded to 3 times by the WYDO/WFXI VP. He in an email sent the 1st week of January told me that Fox HD in Greenville will happen before the end of First Quarter 2007. So whenever that is we'll see i guess. I thought i should spread the word!

Just received a CM 4228 antenna from WRAL. After installation, the problem I wrote about earlier concerning a Samsung TV and LNA ceased to exist. I guess my lack of technical understanding of LNAs contributed to my problem. But anyway, this antenna is a monster. However, it picks up much better than the Rat Shack U-75R I had been using. The U-75R is very directional and the mounting arrangement I have in my attic does not have a rotor. I have the CM4228 pointed towards the west for the Raleigh stations, but I pick up all the locals here in Greenville and WCTI well too.

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It looks like there is a chance we could get to see the ACC tournament in HD this year. Supposedly from what I've read, Raycom is testing things with the local channels in preparation for it. If all goes well the whole tournament will be HD.

Got a email for Don Fisher at Fox, said they got part of the equipment in last week and waiting on another shipment this week or next week, these will enable HD microwave feed and a high power transmitter to replace the low power one, they hope to have this complete by the 2nd week of Feb in time for the Daytona 500.
He told me to email him back around the 2nd week for a update.

Jamie it looks like both WYDO and WFXI will make it to where you live, looking at the FCC data. I'm still undecided to whether or not it's going to be worth the trouble of putting up a rotor just to pick up their lown signal. It all depends on what they put on the sub-channels here.

I'm a new member and this is my first post to this forum. I live in Wenona which is slightly east of Washington. I currently have a Channel Master 3671 vhf/uhf antenna up about 30 feet. My problem is that I cannot consistently lock onto WCTI HD and ENC TV. I can usually get them only at night. I do consistently receive the WNCT and WITN HD channels. I am considering installing a Channel Master 4228 above the 3671 and running these into a pre-amp. I was wondering if anyone else is using a set-up similar to this and if so, how far apart did you space the two antennas?

I wouldn't recommend that set-up. Reason being is this is such a high wind area. Instead get a UHF only yagi, and mount that over the 3671 about 4 to 5 feet. If you really want the best yagi, get the antenna's direct 91XG.

Have you tried aiming the 3671 more to the south?

Just remember, post transition, WFXI and WCTI will be going back to their analog channels and WNCT will be staying on their digital channel, channel 10. That transition is now 24 months away.

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I live in Wenona which is slightly east of Washington. I currently have a Channel Master 3671 vhf/uhf antenna up about 30 feet. My problem is that I cannot consistently lock onto WCTI HD and ENC TV. I can usually get them only at night. I do consistently receive the WNCT and WITN HD channels.

You're about 50+/- miles from WCTI and they are relatively low power at 161kw so I don't know if you'll ever be able to lock onto them consistantly. WNCT transmits at 316kw and WITN is at 795kw and both are at a slightly shorter distance from you which is why you can pick them up. With where you are you should be able to swing your antenna around to the north and get the Hampton Roads, VB, Norfolk stations pretty easily.

Jamie thats a great update about the Fox HD. Now I also want to know if we've got any Dish Network ViP622 HD DVR owners on here? I'm curious as to how easy it is to connect a Over-the-air antenna to that box so that I can get my locals and record them in HD without having to pay for the locals since Dish Network doesn't have HD Locals in the Greenville, NC area. Does anyone know how that process works?

I just mounted a CM4228 in my attic. Should I still put a ground block on the coax even though it is in the attic, not outside. I know static can build up on the line due to wind blowing across the elements, but again this antenna is not outside. Opinions?

Did anyone see this past Fridays JUST ASK MIKE segment on WITN?

He had a response from me on the segment. Pretty neat.
You can view it at www.witntv.com
The video link on the blog site is not working, but click on any story that has video, once the witn video player comes, there is a search tab, type in JUST ASK MIKE, the segment is 1/26
It will play this way.

My father in law sent in his invoice for his HDTV to WRAL by mail, I also emailed a copy of his DIRECTV HD DVR invoice, he got a email from the Station mgr saying he did not qualify for the offer being that Washington is outside the area. Well this past week WRAL sent him a 4228 about 1 month after he requested it. I think the station mgr got the email I sent because the response came the next day, I beleive MATT got the snail mail and put the offer thru.

Note they may send you a preamp, the one they sent me was a UHF only and will not get WNCT, so you may want to go and buy a VHF/UHF preamp. Lowes sales them and currently they are on clearance. They were $59 now $29. Lowes is dropping channel master this spring and going over to Phillips.
Also the 4228 is UHF only but gets WNCTs VHF signal perfect, Im getting 100% on my signal meter.

If you request a WRAL ANTENNA OFFER send it by email to MATT BRANDES MBrandes@wral.com
this is who got me the antenna and is very helpful with any questions you have.






I love the 4228 so much, I ordered a 2nd one from LOWES (special order) and have replaced my radio shack uhf, Im now getting WYDO-DT here east of Washington.

Lowes can special order from Channel Master. In the Washington store we have a full catolog and it has lots of antennas, accessories, for TV and SAT.

Jamie thats a great update about the Fox HD. Now I also want to know if we've got any Dish Network ViP622 HD DVR owners on here? I'm curious as to how easy it is to connect a Over-the-air antenna to that box so that I can get my locals and record them in HD without having to pay for the locals since Dish Network doesn't have HD Locals in the Greenville, NC area. Does anyone know how that process works?


I am one who has exactly what you are describing here in New Bern. The 622 works great through the OTA setup. Just connect the coax from your antenna into the OTA input and go through the Menu setup on your 622. It'll auto scan the channels (or you can manual add) and then it'll put it directly into your program guide for recording on the DVR. Works really great. 2 big caveats: Unless you subscribe to your locals from Dish (in SD only, of course), YOU WILL NOT get any Local Channel Info for your channels (SD or HD) in the Program Guide. Also, you can only record (or watch) one local at a time since there is only 1 OTA tuner. Theoretically, you could watch your Info OTA on your TV and get the digital info broadcast ID and then go back to your 622 and manually program stuff, but it's a real pain.

Plus, depending on where you live, you may be SOL for getting FOX until they complete their upgrade.

I have to say that Dish has done a great job integrating the OTA locals into the normal Dish interface, but it really pays to keep subscribing the SD locals from them. I think of it as an insurance policy against the Digital signal going out, plus I DVR stuff which I care little about in SD to take up less hard drive space. They just recently adding the programming guide info for the secondary digital channels last week. Previously, it was Hit and Miss as to what was on WUNC-2 HD, etc. as all they said on the guide was "Digital Service".

Let me know if you have any other questions about using OTA with Dish 622, I think I've worked out the setup pretty well. Also, BTW the tuner in the 622 appears to lock a little better than the one in my 42" Plasma LG.....

Mike

Jamie did you have to re-inforce your mast to hold the extra weight? I was concerned about putting 15 lbs. of weight at the height I have my 4221. How do you combine the two 4228's? A splitter before the amp?
It's a shame Lowes is doing away with Channel Master... I might go and see if they have any rotors before they stop carrying them. I'm thinking of using one 4228 with rotor instead of two wind loads.

I dont think it weighs that much, or atleast does not seem that heavy, I now have 2 of them up. No problem so far with wind.

I have 25' of mast mounted to a 4x6 post, only have 3 mast mounts securing it to the post.
I think my old 3020 moved around more in the wind.

I would disagree the 4228 antenna has a high wind load. For the difference in signal its not worth it. I would go with the 4221 and put it up as high as possible, less wind load and better antenna on the high uhf channels above 30.

I got this email from WRAL/Z today:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Capitol Broadcasting Company is pleased to announce that DirecTV, WRAL-HD, and WRAZ-HD have reached an agreement that allows DirecTV to provide WRAL-HD and WRAZ-HD signals to their paying subscribers.

As most of you are aware, DirecTV’s current spot beam only covers 75% of the TV house holds in the Raleigh market. According to DirecTV if you live in one of the listed zip codes below you may be apart of the 25% of the market that is affected. While this coverage is not optimum for either party, DirecTV is working aggressively to resolve this technical issue and they hope to have a new spot beam in place to cover the entire market by the end of the year.

There is more good news for DirecTV HD-DVR owners. Approximately 30 days ago DirecTV started pushing updates to the HD-DVRs to fix the off air tuner problem. If this was an issue for you I suggest you check out your HD-DVR and see if the update has been downloaded to your device. Please remember that the over-the-air HD signal is still far superior to the HD signal provided by DirecTV and you will also be able to see the additional standard definition signals that all of the local stations include in their HD streams.

Here are the effected zip codes:



23915 24529 27302 27537 27565 27581 27844 28361 23917 24580 27305 27537 27565 27582 27850 28370 23919 24598 27325 27541 27570 27583 27850
28373 23920 27209 27341 27541 27572 27583 27870 28374 23924 27231 27343
27551 27572 27584 27887 28376 23927 27242 27356 27553 27572 27586 27890
28377 23950 27243 27376 27553 27572 27589 28315 28386 23964 27278 27507
27556 27573 27594 28315 28387 23968 27281 27507 27563 27574 27823 28327
28388 23970 27291 27536 27565 27574 27839 28357

While DirecTV and Capitol Broadcasting realize this is not a perfect solution for the entire market, it is the best that both parties can do at this juncture. We sincerely appreciate your patience as DirecTV and Capitol Broadcasting have worked to provide you with the best possible solution to see both WRAL-HD and WRAZ-HD via DirecTV or over-the-air

Dish Update: Capitol Broadcasting is still waiting for a counter offer from Dish. We started negotiations in October and are hopeful to regain momentum soon. If you are a Dish subscriber and have not yet taken advantage of our free over-the-air antenna giveaway program, please follow this link to participate. http://www.wral.com/wral-tv/story/1180307/

Respectfully,
Chuck deCourt
Station Manager
WRAL-TV
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I would disagree the 4228 antenna has a high wind load. For the difference in signal its not worth it. I would go with the 4221 and put it up as high as possible, less wind load and better antenna on the high uhf channels above 30.

Thanks, I'm thinking of keeping the 4221 then, and getting a high band winegard, or antennacraft and putting them on a rotor. That way I will be ready when WTVD, WCTI, WFXI, go on VHF, and be able to tune WNCT.

The 4221 does a good job with Wilmington channels on 29,30,44,&46.

On WCTIs website it has a public notice of sale. I wonder if the new owners will put more money into it.

Ken 12 if you are still with us, do you have any info?

Where is easterncnewswat? I see he keeps adding to WNCT.com--It really is looking good, and I think better than any other around. WRAL fouled up their web-site.

maffler,

whoa man, thanks for all that info... thats really helpful indeed. i've got my dish install targeted for feb 19 and i'm pretty excited. i'm ready to go buy my antenna for my hd locals. you know they've got a new dvr advantage package you can subscribe to and it virtually throws in all the local channels

anyway my question is what antenna do you have?

Eastern are you still around???


Any update on getting VIPIR back up?

WYDO-DT UPDATE 2/5/07 from Don Fisher

We should start to in install the microwave path this week. We have four seperate paths to replace and hope to have this complete within ten days. We will then begin the new transmitter install (expect to recieve it today or tommorow). We are still waiting on some equipment necessary to produce HD and its doubtful that we will have this in time for Daytona. It looks like more likely the end of March. However we are working on a plan to send our WFXI signal thru the microwave gear to Ayden. There are some fairly significant challenges with this plan, but we hope to overcome them. Our whole focus is on Daytona and we'll do everything we can to make that happen.

____________________________________________________________ ____________

Sounds like they are trying to patch thru WFXI HD until they get WYDO up. Waiting on confirmation on this.

Stay tuned.

Response from FOX

Would beable to push HD thru would be on 8.1 would be replace by WYDO when operable.

Working on some hurdles to get this done.

Eastern are you still around???



Any update on getting VIPIR back up?

Yup, I'm still here. Nope, but after seeing PQ during Super Bowl on a 50 inch screen, I'm not too interested in seeing VIPIR make a comeback.

Before VIPIR comes back, WNCT might need to update the flexcoder to make sure there is enough bandwidth available to 9.1 when fast motion scenes are ongoing? Or do they already have this?

Response from FOX

Would beable to push HD thru would be on 8.1 would be replace by WYDO when operable.

Working on some hurdles to get this done.

When is WFXI-HD going full power?

Before VIPIR comes back, WNCT might need to update the flexcoder to make sure there is enough bandwidth available to 9.1 when fast motion scenes are ongoing? Or do they already have this?

Well, I hear some new equipment is in the works; I think that's why VIPIR is not back on yet. I just wish they had pumped some more bandwith to 9.1 last night. I really didn't enjoy the game due to the macro-blocking during the fast motion scenes. I think we should have robbed Peter (CW ENC) to pay Paul (CBS). But that's just my opinion... You know how that goes.

I just wish they had pumped some more bandwith to 9.1 last night. I really didn't enjoy the game due to the macro-blocking during the fast motion scenes.

Hmm... I asked about the macroblocking a couple of weeks ago. I thought it was a compatability problem with my TV. Apparently it's not.

Here's my post about it.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9545919#post9545919

The pq looked about the same to me on WRAL as well, I think the weather at the game had alot to do with it, wet camera lens, some shots were blurred.

I've also been pretty satisfied with the quality on my set. In the aspect of macro blocking, I would have to say that a bigger screen isn't always better. I think it's going to be a long time before we see perfection on any huge screen. Directv SD looks like crap at times on my
32".

Now today I saw blocking, only when camera shots changed.

The pq looked about the same to me on WRAL as well, I think the weather at the game had alot to do with it, wet camera lens, some shots were blurred.

Well, weather could have played a role that's true enough. I was talking with someone else about it today and trying to figure if it was coming down that way from Network. Plus, this was on Suddenlink cable and I'm used to OTA for my HD source. So, I guess all of that may have factored in. I thought RAL was going to suspend the NewsChannel for the night; not sure if that happened.

I think I was more bummed anyway about the commercials this year. Nothing really knocked my socks off. Even the best were only so-so for me. Sorry, Randy Jackson moment there. *LOL*

Regardless of the reason the Fox HD OTA looks a lot better on my TV then the CBS HD OTA. I can live with that since NASCAR is on Fox anyway. You also have to remember that some people see things differently than others. It warned me about in the Samsung owners manual.

WRAL NEWS CHANNEL was on during the game.

I did see yesterday the blocking you were talking about, you notice it during shot changes.


Eastern, have you heard anything about if CBS The Early Show will go HD like GMA, and TODAY?

The commercials were a bit disappointing... Overall though, I think the picture was decent for the conditions. Eastern I'll bet anything it was the cable's compressed signal that made the game look rough.

Im not sure how many HD channels Cable can carry, but theyve added a couple in the past few months and more coming.

FOOD HD
HGTV HD
TNT HD
STARZ HD

and coming
A&E HD (announced)
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC HD (announced)
WYDO HD


plus the others already on...

ESPN HD
DISCOVERY HD
HBO HD
SHO HD
HDNET
HDNET MOVIES
WRAL HD
WITN HD
WNCT HD
WCTI HD
UNC HD

WRAL NEWS CHANNEL was on during the game.

I did see yesterday the blocking you were talking about, you notice it during shot changes.


Eastern, have you heard anything about if CBS The Early Show will go HD like GMA, and TODAY?

I haven't heard anything about TES going HD. IMO, CBS should have gone HD with Evening News when Katie took over. Maybe they were cash poor after she signed on though! *LOL* :rolleyes:

Eastern I'll bet anything it was the cable's compressed signal that made the game look rough.

Jamieh1 is seeing the same thing and I don't think he has cable since he has D*TV. The Raleigh spot beam would prevent him from seeing WRAL on the dish.

WRAL via OTA Antenna.

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Another new beta version for the HR20 tonight at 11p-1:30a

Not the same as last night

Next week on WITN 7 News at Six, they will have segments called, WHERE ARE THEY NOW. Former WITN tv personalities tell what they have been up to.
The commercial showed one man and woman Ive never seen, and they show Linda Shore looks like she is standing next to a cactus, and Amanda Ross in Texas with her new baby.

Raycom has announced that the ACC tournament will be available in HD if the local affiliates pass it.

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/16664153.htm

Two games at the same time now airing on WCTI-12.1 and ENC-12.3 (48) for those curious.
At the beginning of the NCState-Miami game a banner was posted! :) Virginia and Va Tech are on ENC. Picture and sound started out bad on 12.1 but that has been corrected.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/jsp699/HDTVMAP.gif

Two games at the same time now airing on WCTI-12.1 and ENC-12.3 (48) for those curious.


I couldn't see the games for all of those cars going 185 MPH at the ARCA race. :D

I don't know about what others think, but I am so sick of hearing about "The Weather Authority" on WITN that I could vomit. :rolleyes: I can't turn on an episode of Wheel or Jeopardy without hearing about how "good" they are when the weather can't be trusted, or when the weather is "bad" in an obnoxcious way on top of it. Trying to "force me" to tune to them in foul weather doesn't work here!

Rant over. LOL :eek:

*LOL* No comment... I am curious to see the Where Are They Now spots though.

I don't know about what others think, but I am so sick of hearing about "The Weather Authority" on WITN that I could vomit. :rolleyes:

In my spare time in the mornings I did a little checking on TV station and Internet website weather forecasting abilites. For over a month I wrote down all of the forecasted temps for the 5th, 10th and 15 day (if applicable) day forecast for everybody I could find. It was quite a bit of work but I came to the conclusion that no one and I do mean no one can forecast accurately beyond 2 or 3 days. Even on the short 5 day forecast a majority of the time everybody was off by 5, 10 and more degrees. The least wrong forecasts were provided by the National Weather Service.

Heres a update from Don Fisher from Fox8 Fox14

We have been working on the digital transmitters this week. The higher power transmitter has been installed and we are waing for the manufacturers people to proof the gear and aprove putting it online. We should beable to make that happen this week.
I addition, we have been installing our digital microwave path form Morehead to Ayden. We have just one more leg to go to complete this path. If all goes as planned, we will have this completed by today.
We will then have to install some encoder/decoders in order to deliever HD from Morehead. We are hopefull that this will done before Sunday. We have had some hiccups, but we are still ahead of schedule.
If any of your people are more likely to pick up the WFXI signal, we will have our new full power signal up within the next week or so.
As you can tell, we're quite busy.
Let me know if you have other questions or shoot me a email by Friday and Ill give you the latest! Best, DON



So if any of you have any questions you want me to pass along to Don post them and Ill forward them to him.

Looks like we may have the Daytona 500 in HD, keep your fingers crossed.

At least they are trying! Jamie hopefully you will be able to get WFXI and not have to wait for WYDO.

Im currently get WYDO in SD with a signal around 50%, sounds like that WYDO will be up in HD before the WFXI signal goes full power, they hope to have WYDO up by the weekend.

I can currently pickup 14-1, but I get only audio and no video. Is this normal right now until they complete their upgrades?

I usually get audio and video, have not checked today, but they are currently working so that may be why there is no video.

He mentioned an increase to full power for WFXI next week, but not WYDO. I wonder if they will increase WYDO power before the weekend? I might can pick that up without doing anything outside.
Oh by the way, my neighbors get WFXI HD on cable. It looks really good.

It appears that WYDO and WFXI are working very hard to get a digital product on the air. Im for one glad to see it, its been a long time coming.

As of 4:45p Im getting video and audio on 14.1

I can currently pickup 14-1, but I get only audio and no video. Is this normal right now until they complete their upgrades?

I have the same problem and have had this problem since WYDO went SD. I'm too close to the WYDO tower (2.2 miles) and I'm guessing that I have a vicious multipath issue from a water tower 150 feet from my house. I also get a lot of multipath from 7 and 9 but it's not bad enough to interrupt the HD signal.

I sent an email to the engineering department of WFXI/WYDO asking about help or a solution and they never replied. Another engineer from another Fox affiliate told me the problem may go away when WYDO goes full power. If it doesn't I'll just keep watching WRAZ which works fine about 95% of the time.

Have you put an attenuator in line? If you are only 2 miles, you more than likely are experiencing receiver overload. Radio Shack makes a variable attenuator that you can insert in line and cut down the signal. Also if you have a pre-amp in line, take it out. It is definately being overloaded and could be causing other problems with you receiving WITN and WNCT and WCTI.

Let the FOX8/14 men work towards getting a DTV signal to the masses. I'm hopeful they'll come up to speed before the weekend, but none the less, at least they're moving forward...finally.

Have you put an attenuator in line? If you are only 2 miles, you more than likely are experiencing receiver overload. Radio Shack makes a variable attenuator that you can insert in line and cut down the signal. Also if you have a pre-amp in line, take it out. It is definately being overloaded and could be causing other problems with you receiving WITN and WNCT and WCTI.

I don't have an attenuator or preamp. I'm also not having any problems receiving WITN, WNCT or WCTI. I will try the attenuator. Would a notch filter designed just for 14 (21) work too?

I don't have an attenuator or preamp. I'm also not having any problems receiving WITN, WNCT or WCTI. I will try the attenuator. Would a notch filter designed just for 14 (21) work too?

At the distance you are from the tower, you may still be overloading your receiver causing all kinds of unknown problems. I would not try a notch filter because it will distort the signal and digital signals are square waves and if the receiver doesn't see something pretty close to a square wave, the receiver will not decode defeating the purpose.

The Mynetwork TV channel 35X's have changed again. 35.1 is labeled ION, 35.2 qubo 35.3 IONlife
35.4 Worship

I wish our local TV engineers would post here like they do in the Greensboro thread. They have all their engineers keeping readers updated regularly, and everyone seems to be civil. I don't think anyone here would bash our stations if we knew what was going on. It's just nice to know that someone actually cares about the viewers! I think we all care about the stations.
I have a feeling that WFXI/WYDO would have made the FCC deadline if they had been given the resources from the coorperate end.

I wish our local TV engineers would post here like they do in the Greensboro thread. They have all their engineers keeping readers updated regularly, and everyone seems to be civil. I don't think anyone here would bash our stations if we knew what was going on. It's just nice to know that someone actually cares about the viewers! I think we all care about the stations.

Naw, we get bashed too. Sometimes we even deserve it!! :D

Naw, we get bashed too. Sometimes we even deserve it!! :D

I won't bash you here, in fact, I appreciate you taking the time to answer questions from people like me!

Speaking of questions....

How about a tuned stub?

http://spectrum.ic.gc.ca/~emi/htmlen/solutions/annexe/annexe4.html

The reason I'm trying to avoid the attenuator is they have a minimum 10dB attenuation and that may cause problems with my Raleigh reception.

A tuned stub will also deform the signal. Remember this is a 6 MHz wide square wave. You notch a piece of it out or deform the linearity more than a 1 db or two and you will never decode WYDO. You need either an attenuator or you can spend hundred of dollars for a bandbass filter tuned in such a way that it attenuates the entire 6 MHz bandwidth of channel 14 equally so the signal isn't deformed. The drawback is to get it to tune like that, you will need a pre-amp to compensate for the 5 or 6db loss in signal through the filter for your other channels.

The attenuator is the better way to go. It is cheaper and has less overall system effect. You can buy the attenuator for around $20 and if it works, buy a second antenna, aim it at WYDO and insert the attenuator in that line and put an A/B switch in line so you can switch between the two antennas. You could probably do it with a bow tie on your TV since you are so close.

From Don Fisher


If all goes as planned today we will have HD up tonight. We have two installations that have to go smoothly, but we expect it to go well. We will be putting the new high power WYDO transmitter online, this should allow Washington to receive it. That is part of this process. The full power WFXI transmitter should be online in the next 2 weeks or so. We are waiting on the manufacturer to proof this unit and we have to replace radios from the studios to the transmitters. We'll do that after we get WYDO up and running.



Everyone check 14.1 tonight to see if you get FOX HD. Sad thing is the 1st HD program scheduled for FOX is Sunday 10a FOX NEWS SUNDAY WITH CHRIS WALLACE.

But as long as I see side bars or the 720p resolution Ill be happy.

Everyone check 14.1 tonight to see if you get FOX HD. Sad thing is the 1st HD program scheduled for FOX is Sunday 10a FOX NEWS SUNDAY WITH CHRIS WALLACE.

But as long as I see side bars or the 720p resolution Ill be happy.Though listed in my guide as being in HD, I thought that program is done in widescreen SD, not HD. If true, then the Daytona coverage at 2 will be the true test for HD on 14-1...

A tuned stub will also deform the signal. Remember this is a 6 MHz wide square wave. You notch a piece of it out or deform the linearity more than a 1 db or two and you will never decode WYDO.... buy a second antenna, aim it at WYDO and insert the attenuator in that line and put an A/B switch in line so you can switch between the two antennas. You could probably do it with a bow tie on your TV since you are so close.

I appreciate your assistance. I did try the stub but I couldn't get it to tune only to 21.1 (WYDO's real number) and it kept blocking 17 too so that's out of the question. I didn't know about the 6 mhz square wave and a notch filter's effect on it but now I've learned 2 things today.

I'll wait until later today and see what happens when they go full power. As you mentioned in an email you sent me a few weeks ago I may be able to get it once they go full power. Stranger things have happened.

If I can't pick it up then I will use an attenuator with another antenna. Lord knows I have enough of them here from different experiments with different channels.

I'm going to turn my CM 4221 towards WYDO DT for tonight to see if I can get the signal. It is about 30 Ft high. (fingers crossed)!

Just talked to Suddenlink. They said they were unaware that WYDO would be up in HD tonight, but had been in email contact with Don Fisher about it being available in the near future. They said as soon as Don Fisher gives them the thumbs up Suddenlink already had a channel allocated and would have it up on their system momentarily. No promises for the Daytona 500 though....... Let's keep our fingers crossed.

This thread has saved me quite a bit of money. I started trying to tune the 14.1 fox channel this week, obviously with no success. I was planning to go out and buy a high quality rooftop antenna tomorrow. I have been quite confused as to why suddenlink wasn't broadcasting fox hd - now I know.

Thank you guys.

anyone with suddenlink and have a QAM tuner, what channels are free. Im only getting UNC UNC KIDS, UNC ED UNC NC

This thread has saved me quite a bit of money. I started trying to tune the 14.1 fox channel this week, obviously with no success. I was planning to go out and buy a high quality rooftop antenna tomorrow. I have been quite confused as to why suddenlink wasn't broadcasting fox hd - now I know.


This'll make you sick. You don't have to buy an antenna anyway. WRAL in Raleigh will send you a high quality antenna for FREE. A bunch of members here at the AVS Forums including myself have taken advantage of the WRAL antenna giveaway.

See this post for details:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9101585&&#post9101585

FOX News Sunday is in 16:9 widescreen but IS NOT HD. Nanny 911 and Trading Spouses on tonight are both in 16:9 SD along with the first run Cops on Saturday night.

I can't get a signal. Anyone seeing an increase in strength? :confused:

Is anyone experiencing breakup on Speed Channel 607?

Speed seems OK here on D*

Thanks jsp, my dish might need an alignment. Anyone experienced with the 5 lnb D* dish?

anyone with suddenlink and have a QAM tuner, what channels are free. Im only getting UNC UNC KIDS, UNC ED UNC NC


I get all the UNCTV, WRAL, WITN, WNCT, and WCTI channels and side cars over QAM using Suddenlink. I dont know if Washington is in WRAL's marketing area. Everything that is free OTA and Suddenlink carries it comes through on QAM. Everything else is encrypted.

A funny note. My inlaws live in New Kent county Va (near Williamsburg) and subscribe to Cox cable out of Hampton Roads. He started picking up somebody's On Demand playback channel over QAM. This person obviously liked strange entertainment. Honestly, I could have cared less about what this person was watching, but it was funny to watch the channel and then see it fast forward through the commercials.

I guess WYDO didnt get the HD up tonight.

WITNs WHERE ARE THEY NOW? will be extended into next week. Monday night they will have WRALs David Crabtree, He was with WITN from 1985-88.

I guess WYDO didnt get the HD up tonight.

That's actually a good thing... for me. I was hopeing that it wasn't working yet because I still can't get it. Maybe they'll have it up today (Saturday).

Is anybody else watching this broadcaster vs. sat/cable battle? They're fighting over the sat/cable rights to distribute broadcasters HD signals for free. Some of these broadcasters are demanding up to 50 cents per customer and that will either drive the HD off of the sat/cable systems or drive the price of their HD services up.

I noticed YDOHD on Suddenlink channel 702 last night. It displayed "No Data" in the guide and had no picture or sound, but it looks like the place holder is there. It's not there this morning.

Is anybody else watching this broadcaster vs. sat/cable battle? They're fighting over the sat/cable rights to distribute broadcasters HD signals for free. Some of these broadcasters are demanding up to 50 cents per customer and that will either drive the HD off of the sat/cable systems or drive the price of their HD services up.

Actually it is now they pay for the whole SD/HD package or the cableco looses BOTH statons. Cable is now beginning to pay. Sat has been paying for years.

Cable is now beginning to pay. It's about time, but who will really pay are the ones who still subscribe. The only thing that is going to bring prices down is some real competition in every area. Right now there is just not enough choices. It's either D* E* or cable. It's really hard to believe that with every single home watching TV that there aren't more choices!

yeah .I saw the display also on 702..but gone today

Anyone getting WYDO 14.1?
I got home from work tonight and Im no longer getting it, maybe theyve taking it down to get the new transmitter online.

What would it take to get the CW in HD? I do not know much about the bandwidth needed to broadcast HD and how much bandwidth is allowed by the FCC per channel or license. But, if WNCT wanted to, how could they broadcast the CW in HD? To be honest, there are a few shows my wife and I watch regularly on the CW, but I use channel 22 out of Raleigh. I never watch WNCT's CW because its SD. I guess this same question could be asked about UNC TV only broadcasting HD 8pm to 11pm. I am aware its a bandwidth issue, but what would it take to do it right and broadcast all the other channels too? Just curious......

Only enough BW for 1 hd channel.

At one time 1hd, 2 sd

or 4 sd at once

Only enough BW for 1 hd channel.

At one time 1hd, 2 sd

or 4 sd at once


But, what would it take to get more bandwidth? Another channel license from the FCC? If so, how much does that process really cost? Is it physicaly and geographicaly do able? When a station transmits 1hd and 2 sd for instance, does that only require one transmitter? I guess if a station wanted to transmit 2 hds they would have to have another licensed channel and seperate studio and transmitter facilities, right? How is WTVD able to make it profitable to broadcast 1 ABC HD and 2 infromational sds such as weather and news along with broadcasting the CW in HD another channel. Why will the same setup not work here? Too much risk and cost? I guess my real question is what about the market here makes it too costly to do such a project? The answer is probably population density, but I wanted to hear some different opinions. Just brainstorming............

What would it take to get the CW in HD? I do not know much about the bandwidth needed to broadcast HD and how much bandwidth is allowed by the FCC per channel or license. But, if WNCT wanted to, how could they broadcast the CW in HD? To be honest, there are a few shows my wife and I watch regularly on the CW, but I use channel 22 out of Raleigh. I never watch WNCT's CW because its SD. I guess this same question could be asked about UNC TV only broadcasting HD 8pm to 11pm. I am aware its a bandwidth issue, but what would it take to do it right and broadcast all the other channels too? Just curious......It's 1 HD channel with 2 or 3 SD subchannels. There have been tests to do 2 HD streams on one channel. Gray Television (Charlottesville) has NO HD signal over the air from their one full-power and three LPTVs but has added the HD streams to Comcast's system in the area -- FOX, ABC, CBS and MNT. Pretty cool...

How is WTVD able to make it profitable to broadcast 1 ABC HD and 2 infromational sds such as weather and news along with broadcasting the CW in HD another channel.

WTVD does not own CW 22 in the Triangle. The Sinclair group does. They own MyRDC and CW. Most markets don't have CW in HD. This would require another broadcast facility, transmitter, and possibly another tower. In WNCT's case it would certainly require another tower, because they don't own the one their on, and that tower is loaded down with WITN/WNCT analog, WITN DT, WNCT DT, WERO-FM and WNCT-FM. I'm fairly certain it couldn't hold anymore weight. If we had an ice storm, it would be at a real risk of colapse.
I just thought of this, after analog shut down, they might do CW HD...

Anyone getting WYDO 14.1?
I got home from work tonight and Im no longer getting it, maybe theyve taking it down to get the new transmitter online.

I guess they won't make it before the race. I hope everyone can view a FOX from somewhere else.

They must be working on 14.1, the channel was off most of the day, but has come up, and back off, with audio and without. May still be trying to beat the Daytona 500 start.

Tweaked my antenna and can receive WYDO DTV...but video only and not in HD. It's a shame WYDO has taken so long to come up to speed and are unable to broadcast in HD for the Daytona 500 (or audio for that matter) in contrast to surrounding FOX affiliates.

Got a update from Don Fisher

Unfortunately we are not able to get HD up today. My guys worked dilligently to make it happen, but at the end of the day, they couldnt overcome some equipment failure, we are close.


Don Fisher
WYDO/WFXI

Did they increase power yet? It doesn't seem so from what my receivers are showing

WTVD does not own CW 22 in the Triangle. The Sinclair group does.


You're right. I did some further research after I wrote that. I like VARTV's comment. Would it be possible for WNCT to pass the CW in HD to Suddenlink via a land line. Would they entertain that idea?

I have no idea. That would be something for Suddenlink and WNCT to work out between them. I believe it is possible, because WSFX FOX 26 in Wilmington was in HD on Time Warner in Wilmington long before they went full power or HD OTA for that matter. Also the CBS in Wilmington is only an analog translator and they are HD on cable.

This same setup is what allows Time Warner to carry UNCTV's HD all the time. I sent an email to what was then Cox asking if they could do the same thing. About two years ago UNCTV offered to shoulder the cost of laying fiber from their microwave distribution point and tieing into Charter's network (it may have been Comcast... I don't remember). I guess it never went anywhere because UNCTV's microwave facility in Pitt county (Farmville) is in Time Warner's area making it a fairly simple hookup for them, but very costly for what was then Cox. Again, I'm just brainstorming........

Another curious question. How much room does Suddenlink have to add HD channels? I wonder what there max capacity is in the Greenville area. I know this is a fundamental problem all cable operators are experiancing right now with the explosion of HD content along with all the other services they offer.

anyone have any new info WYDO HD today?

Welcome to the group brewtus. I have tried to tune 21 in but still have had no luck today. If some piece of equipment failed, then it may be a while.

I'm only receiving SD video with no audio on 14.1 OTA.

I am getting audio and SD video on 21-1, but quality on both is really poor. Signal strength is up though. More than what it has been.

Does anyone have an update on when to expect Fox HD to be up and running? This forum has been a wonderful source of info. Thanks guys.

I emailed Don Fisher this morning but have not got a response. Ill post once one comes in.

Analog 14 is acting a little funky right now. It's going in and out and there looks like another channel is lightly showing through. Perhaps they're working on it right now.

WRDC 28.1 has now gone 720p HD

Looks good.

Can someone with SuddenLink in the Washington Greenville area with a quam tuner tell me what channels they get.
I had a RCA tv and only got UNC KD, UNC ED, UNC TV, UNC NC

Can someone with SuddenLink in the Washington Greenville area with a quam tuner tell me what channels they get.
I had a RCA tv and only got UNC KD, UNC ED, UNC TV, UNC NC


I get all the UNCTV, WRAL, WITN, WNCT, and WCTI channels and side cars over QAM using Suddenlink. I dont know if Washington is in WRAL's marketing area. Everything that is free OTA and Suddenlink carries it comes through on QAM in Greenville. Everything else is encrypted.

We are still waiting on a firm response from a manufacture on delivery of gear that will allow us to complete the path to send the HD signal to Greenville.
I will let you know when I hear. Do feel free to contact me at anytime. Thanks!

Thanks a lot guys. If it weren't for this forum, I would probably be driving myself crazy right now trying to make an antenna pick up Fox on 14.1. I can't wait until they have the channel on Suddenlink so I can finally see Fox shows in HD.

Hey guys, I've got a quick question. I got my Dish Network hooked up last week and got my ota antenna hooked up to it. I live in Greenville and right now I only get WITN and WNCT in HD. I know all about WYDO. I'm wondering though about the WCTI broadcast. I've got my OTA antenna on the same pole as my dish antenna and pretty much pointing in the same direction. Is WCTI/ABC available as a digital channel in Greenville? And what direction should it face? Thanks

harperjj04 Im in La Grange if you dont know it im right in the middle between Kinston and Goldsboro. I have a Phillips Super High Def Antenna the violet color coded one. Im picking up all the local HD's (except FOX). WCTI is in HD I just keep turning my antenna different directions and scanning my TV for new HD channels and I finally picked up WCTI HD. It took me a few times to get it but I eventually did. Im even picking up all the Local Raleigh HD stations. You can give it a try and see what happens and like I said I had to turn it a few different directions and scan after each turn but I eventually picked up WCTI HD. Give that a try you may be able to pick up the Raleigh channels as well.

Is WCTI/ABC available as a digital channel in Greenville? And what direction should it face? Thanks

Yes it is available. You will have to point your antenna just slightly east of south to pick it up. 175 or so degrees should do it. They have a relatively low power transmitter (161 kilowatts) and you're getting out towards the limits of their service area so your antenna pointing needs to be a little on the accurate side.

You should also be able to pick up the Raleigh stations depending on your antenna. Point your antenna due west and adjust for strength once you find them.

Raleigh stations include 5, 17, 28 and 50.

Hey guys, I've got a quick question. I got my Dish Network hooked up last week and got my ota antenna hooked up to it. I live in Greenville and right now I only get WITN and WNCT in HD. I know all about WYDO. I'm wondering though about the WCTI broadcast. I've got my OTA antenna on the same pole as my dish antenna and pretty much pointing in the same direction. Is WCTI/ABC available as a digital channel in Greenville? And what direction should it face? Thanks

What model antenna are you using? Here's a map of the market and where the towers are located. For Raleigh, you would point towards Clayton.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/jsp699/HDTVMAP.gif

Alright. Great. Thanks a bunch. I think i gotta move the thing though!

Brewtus, are you using an indoor or outdoor antenna?

Brewtus, are you using an indoor or outdoor antenna?

Im using an indoor antenna

My engineers are working on WYDO now and say they have HD up on a temporary basis. Do you get your signal over the air? Can you give me some feed back?

Don


AVS MEMBERS WE NEED YOUR HELP!

Im getting a signal on WYDO of 50% but not getting a picture, can some one punch in 21.1 and see if they get the channel on that channel instead of 14.1 and is it coming in HD? My HR20 does not give me the option to get the actual channel only the remapped channel.
Let me know if youre getting the picture on 21.1 so I can get back with Don at FOX.

Thanks

I tried 21 Jamie, but still don't get a signal down here. If your only getting a 50% sig, then they must not have juiced the full power transmitter.

Does Don Fisher not read this forum? We would welcome someone from Fox to join us!

Suddenlink has posted the addition of National Geographic HD and A&E HD beginning March 1. Keep them coming. I would trade both for WYDO :)

0% in New Bern. :(

Welcome cruiser. It's 0% on my equipment too.

0% WYDO HD in La Grange

They are sending WFXI to Ayden and its coming on 14.1

My old HR1o HD TIVO picks up 8.1 on DIGITAL channel 21 and remaps to 14.1

it get s 8.1 and 14.1

The signal shows the ID on the signal meter Channel 21 WFXI-DT

They are temp sending 8.1 somehow to WYDO.

My HR20 will not get it it gets a signal but no picture.

You can try to scan these in.
The signal is a little off the current antenna direction as 7 and 9

Nothing from WYDO or WFXI here.

I'm getting a 90-100% signal on 14.1, but only a black picture and no audio.

I'm also getting 14.1 at 77% with no video or audio

Hey, can some of you new guys put your locations in please. It makes it easier to know what area we're dealing with.

Greenville

Greenville

Thanks Bill.

I'll check when I get home at lunch; not until around 2 today. Night before last I was getting WYDO on 21.1 but SD only.

Im still getting absolutely nothing

Nothing here in South Greenville either.

YES! I'm getting Fox High Definition on 21.1 which is remapping to WFXI 8.1!!! They are up and running! Only getting at 60-70% signal on my Samsung T-351.

Nothing here in South Greenville either.

You may have the same problem I have, too close to the transmitter. They should have put that thing down by WITN's tower. I foresee a lot of people, especially in Ayden, not being able to see it when it goes full power. Woop-seas! :mad:

Actually to cover the northern end of the market they are about right with the location. They just need more height to do it right I think. You can put all the power you want out, but if it doesn't clear the horizon it's a waste. They will be covering more ground than before though with WYDO once they crank it up. WFXI looks to be losing a little possibly.

I'm receiving Fox digital on both 8.1 and 14.1. getting some pixel freezes which is probably due to the microwave, not my off air signal. Looks pretty good! Got to love those black bars!

Are they both HD or is the HD on 8.1 and SD on 14.1?

Sorry...I'm in Simpson..just outside of Greenville....I havn't checked 21.1, but as of last night 100% on 14.1 with no picture or sound.

14.1 (21.1) is remapping to 8.1 with a HD broadcast; no SD.

They are sending the WFXI signal to Ayden and bouncing it off WYDO, thats why you are getting it on 8.1 also.
This is temporary until they get WYDOs equipment installed properly.

Actually to cover the northern end of the market they are about right with the location. They just need more height to do it right I think. You can put all the power you want out, but if it doesn't clear the horizon it's a waste.

Well, you know what they say about Frogs and wings. Actually if they put it down by WITN, gave it 1,000 kw and 2,000 ft of height they could grab some of WRAZ's market just like WRAZ has grabbed their's. Who's paying who here?

Well, you know what they say about Frogs and wings. Actually if they put it down by WITN, gave it 1,000 kw and 2,000 ft of height they could grab some of WRAZ's market just like WRAZ has grabbed their's. Who's paying who here?

I actually don't know but of maybe one or two that live in the Raleigh market that watch WITN or WNCT even though their signals reach way out there. On top of that I don't think WYDO has the funds to run two 1 megawatt signals. WITN isn't even one megawatt. WNCT is a whopping 35KW! They got lucky with the VHF assignment. WFXI is the one that should have gotten that option. Maybe the FCC didn't see it that way... ;)

WFXI has asked for channel 8 post transition.

WITN isn't even one megawatt. WNCT is a whopping 35KW! They got lucky with the VHF assignment. WFXI is the one that should have gotten that option. Maybe the FCC didn't see it that way... ;)

WNCT's 35kw is the low power DT transmitter, their full power transimtter is 316kw. Their service area reaches almost right into downtown Raleigh.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=TV652818.html

The point was that if WYDO had moved the transmitter a little further away from the Wintergreen metro area they probably wouldn't have, what appears to be judging from messages posted here, so many potential viewers who can't see their programming because their too close.

I don't know why they even bother with 2 seperate transmitters that have the same exact programming in such a small geographic area anyway. WNCT hits a much larger area including almost all of WFXI's and WYDO's area with one transmitter.

What do those real estate people say? Location, location, location.