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jamieh1
06-23-07, 07:37 AM
SUDDENLINK INTERNET USERS

Those of you with the 256K service for $24.95, Suddenlink just increased your speed to 1 Mbps at no additional charge, This speed now allows most video to play with out freeze ups. Ive checked this out on my wifes parents computer and you can notice the speed difference.
I guess SL is trying to compete with Embarq.

jspENC
06-23-07, 01:59 PM
WFXI DT is back on the air today. I still can't keep a stable signal with it.

jspENC
06-29-07, 02:56 PM
Where is everyone? I was watching Phillip and Scott just now on the bad weather. It looks like it's going to be rough.

If you watched the lead story on 9 last night about the fires, I live just a few blocks away from both of the locations where they occured.

jspENC
06-29-07, 05:15 PM
WCTI just went dead. Signal is still on the air, but no picture or sound being sent.

Ken12
06-29-07, 05:43 PM
We took a power hit at the studio having to get everything rebooted

Ken

jspENC
06-29-07, 06:56 PM
Thanks Ken. It went just before the end of the weather segment. When I checked back about a half hour later, things were back on the air.

foxeng
06-29-07, 07:05 PM
We took a power hit at the studio having to get everything rebooted

Ken

No UPS?

jspENC
07-02-07, 08:57 PM
WFXI is now working as it should day and night. They must have fixed whatever was causing the break-up. Signal strength is up also to 70-80% around here.

jamieh1
07-04-07, 12:48 PM
I wish some one would add a radar channel. I miss being able to tune in directly to a radar.

RMartin631
07-04-07, 03:30 PM
I wish some one would add a radar channel. I miss being able to tune in directly to a radar.

It doesn't do you a lot of good but 11-2 has radar up during times of heavy weather.

jspENC
07-04-07, 05:43 PM
I wish WNCT or WCTI would build a radar like WTVD's XP Doppler. I agree I want a radar channel, and soon. We have waited long enough. :rolleyes: ;)

jamieh1
07-04-07, 09:45 PM
It doesn't do you a lot of good but 11-2 has radar up during times of heavy weather.


Yea, I get 11 at night, the radar will show storms up to about the Greenville area west, its better than nothing.

harperjj04
07-12-07, 10:26 PM
Just in response to Jamieh's post about Suddenlinks HSI pricing. I've had both Suddenlink and now I have Embarq and Embarq gives you better bang for your buck. $24.95 for 1.5mbps and the price is guaranteed for life. Suddenlink can't touch that. Plus you know in 6 months they're gonna raise the prices again.

bamajeep
07-13-07, 12:06 AM
Curious if anyone in Greenville can pick up WCTI using an indoor antenna. It appears to be 28 miles from me and in the same direction as the other channels I get (Fox, CBS, NBC). Local scans pick up Raleigh stations and WRAY in Wilson, but no trace at all of WCTI.

If so, which one are you using?

Here is a pic of my info from TV fool.

Thanks

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/476/radardigitalai4.jpg

RMartin631
07-13-07, 05:07 AM
It wouldn't surprise me that you can't pick up 12 with an indoor antenna. Like you pointed out they're 28 miles away and a little down on power compared to stations that are much closer. I'm surprised that you get the Raleigh stations with an indoor antenna.

jspENC
07-13-07, 10:34 AM
Walmart has an antenna by Phillips that's supposed to be good. It's small, in a grey case and can be put outside too. Inside is more about the house blocking the signal I think. I've tried indoor antennas and in order to get WNCT, I have to hold the antenna up toward the ceiling, while with an antenna that isn't even VHF outside, it comes in without even aiming. Usually more than 10 miles away, just forget indoors and go to the attic or outside is what I've been seeing. I couldn't get PBS inside, and they are on the same mast as WCTI is. WCTI came in witout even trying to aim down in Jax.

easternncnewswat
07-13-07, 10:51 AM
I'm in Greenville and get WCTI with the antenna jspENC mentioned above. It's a little tough to find the sweet spot for CTI but once you get it, you shouldn't have any break-ups... Only in the most severe of weather do I lose their signal. Otherwise, they're always locked in.

HDBill
07-14-07, 02:27 PM
Eastern, what other channels are you receivng with the Phillipps antenna?

easternncnewswat
07-14-07, 09:14 PM
WRAL 5.1&2, WITN 7.1&2, WNCT 9.1&2, WTVD 11.1,2,&3, WCTI 12.1&3, WYDO 14.1&2, WNCN 17.1,2&3, WLFL 22.1, PBS 25.1,2,3,4&5, WRDC 28.1, WRAY 30.1, WRAZ 50.1,2&3.

Here lately I've also been pulling WFXI 8.1 at night.

The antenna also pulls stations from Norfolk, Greensboro, and Wilmington when the atmosphere is just so. It's the Phillips MANT510 amplified antenna from Wal-Mart. Costs about 25 bucks.

Good Luck!

HDBill
07-15-07, 05:45 PM
Thanks eastern, is it located on the first or second floor?

easternncnewswat
07-15-07, 06:54 PM
First floor.

Electrico
07-16-07, 05:05 PM
You can find it on Ebay under amplified antenna>Philips Mant510 for $14.99 and $14.99 S/H or $24.99 BUY IT NOW plus the S/H.

jspENC
07-17-07, 09:48 AM
I was in Wal-mart down here yesterday, and the price for the unit I was talking about was $35. I saw another inside only unit for $30 I think. I wonder why they cost more at this Wal-mart? The indoor/outdoor unit must be multi-directional.

I wonder if Ken12 ever bought a second antenna for WFXI? I have been getting consistent reception from them for a while now. I've been getting ALL RDU channels every night for a while also, even CW22 HD.

RMartin631
07-17-07, 06:37 PM
Do TV stations not have someone watching to make sure everything works properly? WYDO has had a machine going bad for some time and now it's completely broken. The image and audio are skipping to the left and it looks like they're moving one frame at a time horizontially across the screen.

Did they get sold yet?

jamieh1
07-17-07, 07:19 PM
I believe they did get sold a few months back.

Ive sent a email to Don at FOX and asked him about this. I also tossed a Idea to him about them adding WNCT's Radar to a FOX sub channel.
Since WNCT handles the news for them and that alot of viewers want the radar channel back this may be a good move for them.
I post his response.

jspENC
07-18-07, 09:16 AM
VIPIR is going on 9.3 once a piece of equip. that was ordered gets set up. Doesn't WCTI's company own FOX now?

FOX8/14 news didn't air last night either. Something about circumstances beyond control... Atmospheric I suspect...

easternncnewswat
07-18-07, 12:24 PM
Yes, WCTI purchased Fox. If I'm not mistaken, the FCC approved the purchase. I noticed that Fox 14 was off the air here in Greenville last night at least over the air wise. I saw that it was on Dish Network though. Kara was anchoring last night and was putting the show together when I left at 8:30. I guess FXI/YDO had some technical problem; maybe cause of the storms?

Oh, and yes, VIPIR will be on 9.3 once equipment is received and installed last I heard.

jamieh1
07-19-07, 05:51 PM
Chris Mossman has taken over the job from Mike Weeks at WITN.

Some changes are coming to WITN, he said the stations logo will be replaced, bringing what he called a consistent graphic look to the broadcast.
Also "we're going to bring in some paint and spruce up the place" referring to the Washington studio.


There was a story on the front of the Washington Daily News today about this.

Does anyone know what happened to Mike Weeks?

Here is a link to the story
www.wdnweb.com/articles/2007/07/19/news/news02.txt

foxeng
07-19-07, 06:48 PM
Does anyone know what happened to Mike Weeks?

Don't know, but the several ex-pats of WITN that work with me are DELIGHTED beyond belief. The stories they relate about Mr Weeks tends one to believe he might not be a person that one would "like" to work for.

Here is a blog entry from one of the former WITN employees:

http://lenslinger.blogspot.com/2007/07/regime-change-in-chocowinity.html

jspENC
07-19-07, 07:12 PM
I never cared for the station or their news. I hope they can turn things around. I thought the whole gimmick was kind of obnoxious sounding personally.

easternncnewswat
07-19-07, 08:44 PM
Don't know, but the several ex-pats of WITN that work with me are DELIGHTED beyond belief. The stories they relate about Mr Weeks tends one to believe he might not be a person that one would "like" to work for.

Here is a blog entry from one of the former WITN employees:

http://lenslinger.blogspot.com/2007/07/regime-change-in-chocowinity.html

Heard the same thing here, foxeng.

jamieh1
07-19-07, 09:35 PM
The times I spoke with Mike he seemed to be a real nice guy, but I didnt work with him, so I couldnt tell you how he was to work with.

It did seem to me that WITN was getting more like a shopping channel.
WITN CLASSIFIEDS
WITN CARS
WITN HOMES
WITN DOUBLE $ DEAL
WITN 7 FEET OF CASH

I cant wait to see some new graphics, tired of the same graphics we have seen for years.

jspENC
07-19-07, 10:13 PM
I found those most annoying Jamie, and they didn't have any "news value". I also hate the loud promos they do and the voice guy they use is terrible. I hope they change these things! I have to mute my TV or change that channel when they come on. They could also "spruce up" their weather channel and do more with the crawl thing.

RMartin631
07-20-07, 03:47 AM
That cheesey news set and the Business Break have got to go before I'll watch their local news again. Hey, maybe they'll be the first "Down East" station with Hi-Def local news.

Retspin
07-20-07, 01:46 PM
[QUOTE=easternncnewswat]Yes, WCTI purchased Fox. If I'm not mistaken, the FCC approved the purchase. /QUOTE]

If this is the case, then maybe they can put WFXI or WYDO on the Trenton tower. It would certainly be a big kick in the pants for their weak signal.

jamieh1
07-20-07, 01:51 PM
I cant stand the WITN news at Sunrise on Sunday mornings 8-10a, they have the same stories over and over, why cant they air The Today Show like WNCN in Raleigh?

jspENC
07-20-07, 02:49 PM
[QUOTE=easternncnewswat]Yes, WCTI purchased Fox. If I'm not mistaken, the FCC approved the purchase. /QUOTE]

If this is the case, then maybe they can put WFXI or WYDO on the Trenton tower. It would certainly be a big kick in the pants for their weak signal.

They couldn't do it on channel 8, that's for sure, because of WGHP in High Point/Greensboro. They might could do it on 21,24 or 14 when analog ends... Not sure if anyone nearby plans on using 21 or 24? It would make sense though, and would save $$ in the long run. Maybe they could mount something on the top of Trenton tower like they did on the WRAL tower that would allow multiple antennas up there. I'm not sure if they could license it to Morehead anymore? They might could do Havelock or Jacksonville though.

Lot's of speculating! :eek: And what would they do with the brand new stuff down in Atlantic?

foxeng
07-20-07, 07:38 PM
WFXI has elected to use channel 8 post transition and so has WGHP so WFXI can't move further west post transition for the same reason they can't move west in the analog world. Plus the FCC has authorized a digital LPTV in Goldsboro on channel 8. Atlantic is as close to the west they can put WFXI. Had WFXI elected either UHF DTV channel, they may have been able to move it further west post transition. As long as a station puts a city grade signal over the city of license, it doesn't matter where the transmitter is.

jeffreydavisjr
07-22-07, 12:30 AM
Hey guys.

Excuse this post if this has already been discussed in this thread.

But does anyone know if there is any time table for when the local HD channels for WITN, WNCT, and FOX 8/14 (whatever that call sign is) will be availiable through DirecTV?

Yes I could use OTA. But that would require me running a separate cable for it as the Zinwell Multiswitch does not support OTA. Or I could get an indoor to connect to my HR20 DirecTV receiver. But I think indoor antennas are tacky, especially when you must nearly hang them from the ceiling to get them working.

I was also thinking about getting the HD locals from Sudden Link. Can anyone tell me how these channels look on Sudden Links cable service?

BTW, analog Fox 8/14 looks absolutely horrible through DirecTV. Is this the same way through HD OTA or sudden link?

Thanks for all the info.

RMartin631
07-22-07, 06:16 AM
But does anyone know if there is any time table for when the local HD channels for WITN, WNCT, and FOX 8/14 (whatever that call sign is) will be availiable through DirecTV?

BTW, analog Fox 8/14 looks absolutely horrible through DirecTV. Is this the same way through HD OTA or suddenlink?

Right now Directv is in a major war with Comcast and Dish over who can offer the most HD channels. Unfortunately for subscribers Directv seems to be more interested in network type HD channels (ESPN, TNT, HGTV etc) than local HD channels.

Fox 8/14 analog OTA looks bad too, it's not a Directv thing. WFXI/WYDO's digital OTA looks as good as anybody else's when it's working correctly.

jspENC
07-22-07, 09:50 AM
Who knows when DirecTV will offer HD locals here, but hopefully early next year at least. I think it's stupid that these providers aren't offering out of market locals on top of it.

jamieh1
07-22-07, 10:09 AM
Directv just launched the Directv 10 satellite and will launch will start adding alot of national HD channels in September, they say they will have close to 100 National HD channels by the end of the year.
They also have another sat scheduled to launch early next year this will give them the capacity to have around 150 national HD and 1500 local HD channels.
Dont be surprised if most current markets that have local service get there local HD channels next year.
Some national HD channels already announced are...
FOX NEWS HD
CNN HD
TBS HD
FX HD
SPEED HD
A&E HD
THE HISTORY CHANNEL HD
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC HD
FOOD HD
BRAVO HD
CARTOON NETWORK
MHD
BIG TEN NETWORK
DISNEY HD
TOON DISNEY HD
ABC FAMILY HD
ESPNEWS HD
CNBC HD
NFL NETWORK HD
SCIFI HD
THE WEATHER CHANNEL HD
USA HD
VS HD
TLC HD
ANIMAL PLANET HD
THE SCIENCE CH HD
DISCOVERY CHANNEL HD
THE TENNIS CHANNEL HD
SHOWTIME WEST HD
THE MOVIE CHANNEL HD
CHILLER HD
STARZ E/W HD
STARZ EDGE HD
STARZ COMEDY HD
STARZ KIDS/FAMILY HD
ALL 11 CURRENTLY CARRIED HBO AND CINEMAX CHANNELS IN HD

The channels sould start in Sept.

And dont forget Direct is expected to start VOD in the next month or so, and there should be some HD with that as well.
(you need to hook your HR20 up to a internet connection to take full advantage of VOD).

RMartin631
07-22-07, 03:46 PM
I think it's stupid that these providers aren't offering out of market locals on top of it.

They can't. FCC rules are very specific as to who can receive out of market locals. If you're out in the middle of Wyoming and there isn't a TV station within 100+ miles you may be able to get a waiver to receiver them. In an area like ours you stand a zero chance of getting them. I believe the local affiliates have to approve any out of area channels and I don't see that happening.

jeffreydavisjr
07-23-07, 10:13 AM
I gotta do something...

I guess I will have to go with Sudden Links locals in HD. I dont think they make you sign a contract or anything so I can probably get it turned off whenever I wish.

jamieh1
07-23-07, 01:16 PM
My Samsung LN-T4042H has a QAM Tuner and I have suddenlink for my internet service, I hooked up the cable line to the tv and I get all the OTAs
7.1
7.2
9.1
9.2
12.1
12.3
14.1
25.1
25.2
25.3
25.4
25.5
The picture is real good.

jeffreydavisjr
07-23-07, 04:19 PM
So you dont pay?

Illegal Cable?

Thats cool. Your so lucky.

jamieh1
07-23-07, 05:11 PM
No a QAM tuner picks up unscrambled cable tv channels.
Almost all cable companies local digital channels are unscrambled.
When Suddenlink offers free previews of channels the QAM tuner will pick them up.

Alot of the newer tv's have QAM tuners. Some HD settop boxes have them as well.
I use my QAM tuner in cases where there may be bad weather and for some reason the signal goes out, or if we ever have a Hurricane and my antenna was to go down, I can flip over and get my HD locals that way. And if cable goes out I still have my sd channels from Directv.

If you are in the Greenville area, you would get WRAL-HD and WRAL-NC on QAM as well.

jeffreydavisjr
07-24-07, 12:37 AM
Well. I think I can pick up the local HD's like that. I tried hooking mine up like that. My TV didn't find channels 7.1, 9.1, etc.

NBC HD was channel 100.8. CBS, ABC, and PBS was in the 100 range as well. I couldn't find fox. Should you search for channels using the "Antenna" option or "Cable" option.

Thanks for your help.

And remember. You could of just possibly saved me from giving lots of money to Sudden Link.....

I truely appreciate it.

jeffreydavisjr
07-24-07, 11:34 AM
Actually yea I found fox. It is in the 94 range. 94.6 or something. So this is totally legal?

Jeffrey

jspENC
07-24-07, 12:22 PM
As long as you are paying cable for a service, then yes it is legal. The FCC says they must make the local signals available to QAM.

jamieh1
07-24-07, 02:05 PM
Im sorry about the channel numbers, QAM channels want show the correct channel number.
What suddenlink system are you on.

What kinda of tv do you have? To get the cable channels select CABLE.

You may one to rescan the channels ever so often to see if any unscrambled channels were added.

jeffreydavisjr
07-24-07, 03:53 PM
I have a Philips 47PFL7432D.

I live in Williamston. Is that what you mean what Suddenlink system? I only have High Speed Internet through Sudden Link. No receiver or anything like that.

Yea, about the channels I guess they are different depending on your location. When I did a auto program my TV found 67 analog channels and 167 digital channels.

I can get all local HD's but when I turn to some of the high range channels, (anything over channel 68) I get the message scrambled video, video not supported. So yes, some of those high range channels are scrambled. I am just happy to get the locals in HD.

Im all ready for football season now.

Go Cowboys!

jamieh1
07-24-07, 05:15 PM
Glad I could help, just send me a monthly payment for the HD locals. HA HA Joking!

Thats what we are here for, to help each other out.

We've been talking on this thread for a few years now. We even had this thread talked about on the WITN 7 Just ask Mike? segment. WCTI 12 has this thread linked on there web site also.

We have several connections with the area stations and we get alot of info from them.
One of our members easterncnewswatcher works at WNCT, we have Ken12 from WCTI(engineer), I chat with Don Fisher Gen Mgr FOX8/FOX14 and pass along info also.

Take time to read back thru all the post and enjoy!

jamieh1
07-24-07, 05:21 PM
Are you getting WRAL HD and the WRAL NEWS CHANNEL?

I did at one time get them here in Washington but now I dont.

RMartin631
07-24-07, 06:38 PM
Go Cowboys!

See now, everything was going so smoothly and you had to go and say that. :rolleyes:

Redskins, Panthers... in that order.

jamieh1
07-24-07, 07:17 PM
Yea you're outta here!!!! Just kiddin.


Go Panthers and Skin's!!!

jeffreydavisjr
07-24-07, 08:22 PM
You gotta be kidding me...

I have seen the Panthers Cowboys games in Charlotte for the past 2 years.

Plan on going to see them on December 22 this year to.

If you guys have never been to an NFL game your missing out big.

___

That is extremely cool that perhaps our voice can be heard here. I look forward to participateing a lot.

jspENC
07-24-07, 09:41 PM
A lot of good things have come out of this forum. Hope you'll be on often. Panthers are #1 on my list! I used to watch them on a snowy screen before all this HD stuff came about. It's amazing how the technology went from awful in the case of the FOX signals around here to amazing.

Don't forget foxeng. He's made a lot of informative posts here and on other NC threads.

jamieh1
07-24-07, 09:48 PM
I saw a panthers / seahawks game about 5yrs ago, 50 yd line 2nd row.

jeffreydavisjr
07-25-07, 08:01 AM
Wow. How in the world did you get tickets that good?

Electrico
07-25-07, 11:51 AM
Well I hate to be the odd ball. Here is:
The San Francisco Forty Niners!
San francisco!

Electrico
07-25-07, 11:52 AM
Bar none San Francisco is the prettiest city in the nation! Has any of you been there?

jeffreydavisjr
07-25-07, 11:56 AM
Ok lets be serious....

Electrico
07-25-07, 11:57 AM
BTW Steve Young is my QB! Joe Montana was great but Steve Young was the better athlete. In fact because of Steve Young I researched and found the the QBR formula. If you can handle simple algebra you can calculate any QB's rating!

Electrico
07-25-07, 12:03 PM
Jeff I am serious! I might need a body guard but the Trojans of the University Of Southern California is the collge football team I root for! USC vs LSU for the National Champioship with the Trojans taking it ALL! As a matter of fact I have two mini helmets on my computer desk:
on the far left I have the SF Niners one and on the far right is USC!

jamieh1
07-25-07, 12:34 PM
My wife worked for Boddie Noell Enterprises and they had tickets for being sponsors.

jeffreydavisjr
07-25-07, 01:03 PM
My wife worked for Boddie Noell Enterprises and they had tickets for being sponsors.

Man I bet that was nice. But in all honestly. HD on a big screen is almost as good as being there in person. It actually may be a little better.

Electrico
07-25-07, 05:45 PM
Jeff:
Both Samsung(DLP) and Mitsubishi have 73 inch gigantic screen TV's!

Mafflerbach
07-26-07, 10:11 AM
Hi guys-

After reading your posts on the whole hookup your HDTV to cable and get the unscrambled digital off-air locals, I tried it last night (I only get internet from Suddenlink) and got some mixed results.

Does anyone have an accurate listing of where Suddenlink (in New Bern) keeps the channels? I did a couple of EZ-scans with the tuner and got some (like the UNC channels, and WCTI) but was unable to get others like FOX. There seemed to be a ton of scrambled channels and there wasn't a whole lot of rhyme or reason to the channel mapping.

I think I can probably get all the locals, but the EZ-scan feature is pretty flakey, so I think I can tune them myself as long as I know where they are.

Now, if only my Dish Network 622 had a QAM receiver, then I could ditch the antenna and run the locals into the DVR!

--Mike

hdbill88
07-26-07, 02:13 PM
Eastern, I tried the Philips Mant510 and I started picking up WRAL, WTVD and WRAY last night for a couple of hours, and then the signals died around 11pm. I didn't use the RG59 cable that was included in the box, but the one I already was using with my old indoor antenna. Are you using the included cable with your set up here in Greenville. Thanks!

easternncnewswat
07-26-07, 06:06 PM
Eastern, I tried the Philips Mant510 and I started picking up WRAL, WTVD and WRAY last night for a couple of hours, and then the signals died around 11pm. I didn't use the RG59 cable that was included in the box, but the one I already was using with my old indoor antenna. Are you using the included cable with your set up here in Greenville. Thanks!

I used the included cable, hdbill... signals are tricky and you may have to put the antenna in several different places before you get everything you want. i hate the way my duplex is configured; there are only about 4 places i can put the tv in the living room and one optimum spot for my antenna...

ask these guys... i used to have a cable running to an old disconnected satellite dish behind the couch just to get the channels i wanted! *LOL*

those were the days... :D

jb2c
07-26-07, 06:20 PM
Hi all. New to the forum. I live in New Bern. Am very green when it comes to HDTV technology. I know I need one with a tuner built in. Any particular type of tuner? Was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers on what to look for in an HDTV. Goal is to watch some DVD movies (Blockbuster rentals mainly) in HD and get over-the-air HD broadcasts. I did look at TV Fool site and it shows I can probably pick up around 15 digital channels. Is 'digital' and 'HD' the same thing? I assume so.

Also need some advice on antennae. I was hoping something like the Phillips MANT510 mentioned in above posts would work. I can install it in a 2nd floor attic space, so hoping that will be adequate. Would have to place it 15-20' away from the TV. Will that make any significant differecne?

Anyone heard of Sole' brand plasma TV's? I see next to zero info on a search for them. Have a chance to pick one up at what seems to be a good price (although Component 1 isn't working). But just don't know anythin g about the brand, good or bad.

Sorry for all the questions, but like I said, I'n new to this world! Would appreciate any pointers.

JB

Electrico
07-27-07, 01:01 PM
I've just got a message from Directv about HD. Directv is making sure you have the H20 HD receiver, the big oval dish, the three LNB's and the B-Band converter module(directv.com/HD). AS jamieh1 pointed out on his 22 Jul 07(0809) post Directv will air more HD channels starting in September.
Thanks

jamieh1
07-27-07, 02:39 PM
Hi all. New to the forum. I live in New Bern. Am very green when it comes to HDTV technology. I know I need one with a tuner built in. Any particular type of tuner? Was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers on what to look for in an HDTV. Goal is to watch some DVD movies (Blockbuster rentals mainly) in HD and get over-the-air HD broadcasts. I did look at TV Fool site and it shows I can probably pick up around 15 digital channels. Is 'digital' and 'HD' the same thing? I assume so.

Also need some advice on antennae. I was hoping something like the Phillips MANT510 mentioned in above posts would work. I can install it in a 2nd floor attic space, so hoping that will be adequate. Would have to place it 15-20' away from the TV. Will that make any significant differecne?

Anyone heard of Sole' brand plasma TV's? I see next to zero info on a search for them. Have a chance to pick one up at what seems to be a good price (although Component 1 isn't working). But just don't know anythin g about the brand, good or bad.

Sorry for all the questions, but like I said, I'n new to this world! Would appreciate any pointers.

JB


Contrast Ratio- The higher the better. Most plasmas are 10000:1
the average mid range LCD is 1000:1-1200:1
Ive shopped LCDs for the last 2 years, and Ive tried out JVC, SAMSUNG, and WESTINGHOUSE.
Hands down out of all the tv's ive tried and the ones ive seen in the stores. I believe SAMSUNG is the best hands down.

I have the SAMSUNG 40"LN-T4042H LCD HDTV 7000:1 contrast ratio, it has OTA HDTUNER, QAM TUNER

jamieh1
07-27-07, 02:54 PM
Heres the Washington QAM line up....
WITNHD 89-8
WITNWX 89-2
WNCT-HD 78-8
WYDO HD 88-101
WCTI HD 89-18
ENCTV 83-148
UNCTV 86-22
UNCKD 86-14
UNCHD 86-3
UNCNC 86-6
UNCED 86-5
INDEMAND PPV PREVIEWS 85-74

--Mike[/QUOTE]

RMartin631
07-27-07, 05:23 PM
Also need some advice on antennae. I was hoping something like the Phillips MANT510 mentioned in above posts would work. I can install it in a 2nd floor attic space, so hoping that will be adequate. Would have to place it 15-20' away from the TV. Will that make any significant differecne?

I highly recommend the Channel Master 4228. If all you're trying to pick up are the locals (7,9,12,14) from your house in New Bern then it will easily do it. I would point the antenna towards Grifton and adjust from there. It's small, about 2' X 3', and fits in a whole lot of spaces. The cost is around $50 or so plus shipping. For your local channels any piece of RG-6 should do fine. If you're interested in attempting to get some further out stations then a little more work and money will be required.

dixonmb
07-29-07, 02:16 PM
I'd like to see if this is just me, or are others noticing that most programming on WITN-DT (7.1) seems to have sound problems. Specifically, it sounds like a compressor kicking in and it dampens the sound quite a bit before rebounding. It's frustrating to listen to. I don't have problems with other channels, just 7.1. It occurs with SD and HD programming, although it is more pronounced with SD. I think it began occurring several months ago and I've just kept silent because I figured it would be noticed and adjusted. I guess not.

My set-up is a Dish HD DVR (the latest one) for digital reception and a Samsung 5063W DLP HDTV. I've checked sound settings for the TV and with the Dish DVR, but since no other channels exhibit this problem, it seems like the problem is elsewhere.

Does anyone from WITN frequent this forum? If so, can you comment on how sound compression/limiting is handled? It just seems that the threshold is too low (gets triggered way to much, and quickly drops the volume).

AndThenScottSays
07-29-07, 04:44 PM
I've never posted here, but I thought I would since WITN's new GM was mentioned. Does anyone know if they are planning to move the studio? They own the property where the old Buccaneer movie theatre was in Greenville. The building has been torn down though the sign is still standing, and they use it for their Arlington Blvd traffic cam. They bought the property in October 2006 and it has a value of almost $450,000. I find it hard to believe they spent that kind of money just for rights to put a camera up...

RMartin631
07-29-07, 04:58 PM
If anyone is interested it's Parcel #31667

jspENC
07-30-07, 08:14 PM
I just checked the FCC site and WFXI has submitted some new request of coverage for Digital. I'm not sure what that will mean?

jamieh1
07-30-07, 08:50 PM
I thought that I read some where or saw it on some WITN video some where that when the FCC granted the license for this market that they had to have them split up, WITN in Washington, WNCT in Greenville, and WCTI in New Bern. So Im not sure if they could move to Greenville. I dont think the lot you are refering to is large enough to move the main station there.

jspENC
07-30-07, 10:05 PM
I don't know Jamie. Raleigh is the same way though, WTVD Durham, WNCN Goldsboro, and WRAL Raleigh. I think it's odd that Fayetteville doesn't have a station as large as it has become.

AndThenScottSays
07-31-07, 06:20 AM
Fayetteville actually has two stations, channel 40 which is now Univision (WUVC) and channel 62 which is Ion (WFPX). 40 used to be independent and 62 used to be Fox.

WITN might have to keep a main studio in Washington, I never thought about that. If they wanted to however they could move almost everything else to Greenville and leave master control in Washington.... as long as they call it the "main studio" I don't think the FCC would care. That lot is quite big considering what they have now in Greenville, so maybe they are going to move some more operations over.

RMartin631
07-31-07, 07:47 AM
WITN isn't actually in Washington, it's in Chocowinity. They maintain a PO Box in Washington and I guess that's all that is required.

Mafflerbach
07-31-07, 09:16 AM
Thanks Jamie, Suddenlink in New Bern is a little different:


83-148 ENC-TV
85-74 PPV-Prevu
91-3 UNC-HD
91-5 UNC-ED
91-6 UNC-NC
91-14 UNC-Kids
91-22 UNC-SD
94-2 WITN-WX
94-8 WITN
94-18 WCTI
102-3 WFXI

jspENC
07-31-07, 11:25 AM
No WNCT?

They have CBS listed as WILM on the Jacksonville cable website. Idiots. :rolleyes:

jspENC
07-31-07, 11:27 AM
Fayetteville actually has two stations, channel 40 which is now Univision (WUVC) and channel 62 which is Ion (WFPX). 40 used to be independent and 62 used to be Fox.

WITN might have to keep a main studio in Washington, I never thought about that. If they wanted to however they could move almost everything else to Greenville and leave master control in Washington.... as long as they call it the "main studio" I don't think the FCC would care. That lot is quite big considering what they have now in Greenville, so maybe they are going to move some more operations over.

Yes, but they don't have newscasts. Watching those other stations it's all about Raleigh and the Triangle.

jspENC
08-03-07, 07:30 PM
I just discovered the Blogs at WNCT.com. I saw in the V.voice blog that some complained about Severe weather coverage? I wish I had seen that and their justifications for them. Last week I was out of town and didn't get to watch. Did anyone else see it?

I checked out easterns Blog too. :)

easternncnewswat
08-03-07, 08:51 PM
Thanks jsp... I just started my blog last weekend. It's fun, but I've got to get into a routine if I'm going to do it every day. Those are tough to keep up! *LOL*

Electrico
08-05-07, 12:34 PM
Does WFXI CH. 8-1 broadcast DD 5.1? Very late last night the 5.1 lights came on on my Audio/Video receiver. Moorehead City is NOT listed.
Thanks

jspENC
08-05-07, 02:55 PM
Does WFXI CH. 8-1 broadcast DD 5.1? Very late last night the 5.1 lights came on on my Audio/Video receiver. Moorehead City is NOT listed.
Thanks

Yes, all FOX stations broadcast 5.1 dolby at the same time. It is controlled at the coorperate level though, not like CBS, which controls it at the individual station with their own equipment. If you notice WNCT is always showing DD 5.1 but it only puts out of all the speakers during network feeds. They do not have their rack set to convert two channel audio to Pro-logic surround.

WITN and WCTI do not yet have the equipment in house to send us Dolby Digital.

foxeng
08-05-07, 05:50 PM
I don't know Jamie. Raleigh is the same way though, WTVD Durham, WNCN Goldsboro, and WRAL Raleigh. I think it's odd that Fayetteville doesn't have a station as large as it has become.

The FCC looks for diversity of areas when they name a "city of license" but a station can put their studios anywhere they want as long as the studio is within the city grade signal. With WITN's transmitter at Grifton, Greenville is DEFINITELY in the city grade coverage if Chocowinity is.

On a different note, I was just down at Morehead City this past week with a Samsung receiver and I with a saucer up 15ft on Bogue Island, I got WFXI-DT and WUNJ-DT but not WITN-DT or WCTI-DT. Looking at analog, I had a great signal on WCTI-TV and not so great signals on WITN or WNCT. Strange.

jspENC
08-05-07, 06:40 PM
The FCC looks for diversity of areas when they name a "city of license" but a station can put their studios anywhere they want as long as the studio is within the city grade signal. With WITN's transmitter at Grifton, Greenville is DEFINITELY in the city grade coverage if Chocowinity is.

On a different note, I was just down at Morehead City this past week with a Samsung receiver and I with a saucer up 15ft on Bogue Island, I got WFXI-DT and WUNJ-DT but not WITN-DT or WCTI-DT. Looking at analog, I had a great signal on WCTI-TV and not so great signals on WITN or WNCT. Strange.

I don't know what it is down that way that makes reception so difficult? Even FM radio stations are sometimes full of interference. My guess was always it was boats using their navigation GPS or whatever getting mixed in. Someone else posted here a long while back about how WNCT DT was hard to pull in down there. It's surprising too that you couldn't get WCTI DT.

Electrico
08-05-07, 09:04 PM
Yes, all FOX stations broadcast 5.1 dolby at the same time. It is controlled at the coorperate level though, not like CBS, which controls it at the individual station with their own equipment. If you notice WNCT is always showing DD 5.1 but it only puts out of all the speakers during network feeds. They do not have their rack set to convert two channel audio to Pro-logic surround.

WITN and WCTI do not yet have the equipment in house to send us Dolby Digital.
jspENC:
I sent at least three emails to Mike Weeks about WITN NOT having the 5.1 DD. Needless to say I never got a response. At the time I was NOT well informed of this HD business. BTW WITN is still promoting his Friday segment ask Mike. I thought you guys posted that he was gone. I am still learning and will continue learning!
Thanks

jspENC
08-05-07, 09:32 PM
BTW WITN is still promoting his Friday segment ask Mike. I thought you guys posted that he was gone. I am still learning and will continue learning!
Thanks

That is a different "Mike" Mike Riddle I think? Mike Weeks is el gonno from what I've read and heard here it was a quick goodbye.

Electrico
08-06-07, 01:57 AM
That is a different "Mike" Mike Riddle I think? Mike Weeks is el gonno from what I've read and heard here it was a quick goodbye.
jspENC:
I stand corrected. I appreciate you clarifying. I looked at the WITN web site and you are right I confused the "Mikes"!
Thanks

brewtus00
08-07-07, 01:01 AM
Olevia TV

Does anyone else out there have an Olevia TV I bought one from circuit city and I like it so far but the only thing is I cant find a code for the remote that goes with my digital cable box from suddenlink. If anyone else is having the same problem and can help me out I would greatly appreciate it.

jamieh1
08-07-07, 12:38 PM
I saw Mike W. in Washington last week, didnt get to speak to him, What do you say to him, Hey did you get FIRED or did you retire?

He seemed to be in a good mood. But I want going to ask.

Electrico
08-07-07, 01:07 PM
Olevia TV

Does anyone else out there have an Olevia TV I bought one from circuit city and I like it so far but the only thing is I cant find a code for the remote that goes with my digital cable box from suddenlink. If anyone else is having the same problem and can help me out I would greatly appreciate it.
Try the Remote Control Area Link:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=93

brownover
08-10-07, 06:30 PM
Hey Jsp. I promised I would keep you updated on my efforts to receive the digital signals from channel 9 & 14 here in northern Bertie County. I was successful with 9, but 14 & 8 both are impossible to receive on a regular basis. However, I have lost my need for them because Dish network is now determining eligibility for locals by zip + 4. Under the old system, my Ahoskie zip caused me to be eligible for Norfolk locals only even though I live in Bertie county. But thanks to their refining of the system, I am now eligible for the Greenville-Washington-New Bern local. Now I have the best of both worlds, pointing my ota antenna toward Norfolk with really strong signals and receive the NC stations by satellite. I am posting this so that anyone who lives under the 27910 zip, but lives in another dma can now legally receive the NC stations. Just find out what your zip + 4 number is, call dish and you can have it changed. This would really apply to anyone who has a zip for one dma and lives in another. Hope this info will help someone.

jspENC
08-10-07, 11:01 PM
That's great brownover. I am fortunate enough to get two FOX signals, PBS signals, and ABC signals with consistency down here. This digital stuff is going to be difficult I have a feeling, because there are a lot of areas such as yours where you're on the fringe of DMA's and the signals in many cases are not going to be enough for any chance of a picture. Satellite and cable will still have to be the choice for many, and those with OTA only might be S.O.L.

I bet TV station phones will be jammed on analog cuttoff day!

MitsuHelp
08-11-07, 02:00 PM
It does not look like FOX 8 is showing the Panthers tonight....someone tell me I'm wrong!!! I went to their website and it has a banner and nothing else...nothing to click on...nothing! Anyone know who is showing the game?
Thanks!

foxeng
08-11-07, 02:35 PM
They are listed as an affiliate of the Panthers TV Network on the Panthers website. I wouldn't expect a pre-season game not on a network to be HD though. CBS has pre-season week three game of the Panthers.

Electrico
08-11-07, 02:50 PM
It does not look like FOX 8 is showing the Panthers tonight....someone tell me I'm wrong!!! I went to their website and it has a banner and nothing else...nothing to click on...nothing! Anyone know who is showing the game?
Thanks!
Maybe you are! I've just checked programming and 8, 8-1, 14 and 14-1 have the game scheduled. Call Ch.8, they should know.

foxeng
08-11-07, 03:15 PM
We don't have the game here in Greensboro. We are not in the Panthers TV Network. WFMY is. We only get the Panthers when they play on FOX.

jamieh1
08-11-07, 05:55 PM
Directv guide shows NFL Preseason Football 8pm-11pm Carolina Panthers at New York Giants.

Also Sunday at 2pm on Directv NFL Network HD ch 94 Panthers Vs Giants (replay).

foxeng
08-11-07, 08:03 PM
FYI - Panthers game in SD on WFMY in Greensboro.

jspENC
08-11-07, 08:59 PM
The game is on WSFX and WFXI tonight, both local FOX affiliates. I believe WTVD the ABC in Raleigh carries the game also.

foxeng
08-11-07, 09:52 PM
I believe WTVD the ABC in Raleigh carries the game also.

That is correct.

HDBill
08-12-07, 04:23 PM
Eastern, Thanks for the tip on the Philips Mant antenna. For the last four nights, I''ve been receiving WRAL,WTVD,WLFL,WRAZ,WNCN and WRAY's digital tv feeds. Kind of comes and goes depending on the weather and where I slide the antenna, but much better than before. I'm still getting all the Greenville-Washington-New Bern stations as well. I've also received WFXI in Morehead as well as WRDC from time to time. Thanks again!

MitsuHelp
08-13-07, 08:46 AM
Thanks all for replying. I saw the schedule on Panthers.com but as for the network it said Panthers TV and since the regular season said FOX or whatever….it left some questions in my mind. Seeing how some games were missed last year, I started to panic. Even the guys on Sports Talk were ragging FOX and their coverage.

Glad they did show it even though it looked like the feed for the HD was SD but maybe it will be different during the season.

Happy Football Season!!!

Electrico
08-13-07, 06:35 PM
Hi everybody:
I am new to this forum. I live in Jamesville, NC. Please, don't get me wrong this is NOT a criticism by any means. Let me explain. Part of Jamesville is fortunate to have cable and HI speed internet. I belong to the unfortunate group, WHY? I am at the mercy of the satellite, take it or leave it. Back in 1994 when cable was available I begged the cable company to bring it to our area. To make the story short they refused. In Nov '95 I got DTV. I get with my humble CM OTA:
HD: 2-2, 7-1 and 9-1 regularly. With great weather and very late at night I get 8-1 and 13-1.
SD: 2, 7 , 9 and 12. Late I get 3(CBS) from Norfolk and five(CBS) from Raleigh and even then they are far from clear.
The property fits on a 50 FT radius surrounded by 75 FT tall trees.
Those of you that get a great reception with your OTA consider yourselves lucky...

RMartin631
08-13-07, 07:54 PM
I think your's may be a situation of needing more antenna, antenna height, perhaps a preamp, better quality cable, ends and making sure all exposed ends are properly terminated. That you even get Raleigh stations at all is faily amazing. Your system just need fine tuning.

foxeng
08-13-07, 08:40 PM
Thanks all for replying. I saw the schedule on Panthers.com but as for the network it said Panthers TV and since the regular season said FOX or whatever….it left some questions in my mind. Seeing how some games were missed last year, I started to panic. Even the guys on Sports Talk were ragging FOX and their coverage.

Glad they did show it even though it looked like the feed for the HD was SD but maybe it will be different during the season.

Happy Football Season!!!

Saturday nights Panthers/Giants game WAS NOT in HD and WAS NOT shown on the FOX network, but an ad-hoc network called the Panther TV Network. This is common in pre-season. Regular season will have the Panthers on the FOX network when the visiting team is NFC and when the Panthers play an AFC team as the visitors. When the visiting team is an AFC team, the game will be on CBS. Also expect a game or two on ESPN, NBC and the NFL Network as well.

Electrico
08-13-07, 09:26 PM
I think your's may be a situation of needing more antenna, antenna height, perhaps a preamp, better quality cable, ends and making sure all exposed ends are properly terminated. That you even get Raleigh stations at all is faily amazing. Your system just need fine tuning.
Mr. Martin:
I agree:
-better antenna
-more height
-preamp
I disagree:
I have quality quality cable(s). The exposed ends are well terminated. I agree with adding more height except it is a very expensive proposition consequently it is out of the question. The only channel I get from Raleigh is CH. 5(CBS) and it does NOT come-in clear.
When I had SD I had a good SW view(97% SS) despite the trees. The switch to HDTV forced me to move the DTV Sat. dish to the front of the house in order to get a good S view. It paid off, I get the following SS's for the respective sat.'s 80%(101), 82&-85% for 119(HD) and 70%-74% for 110.
I appreciate your input, thanks.

jamieh1
08-13-07, 09:53 PM
I thought that I read some where or saw it on some WITN video some where that when the FCC granted the license for this market that they had to have them split up, WITN in Washington, WNCT in Greenville, and WCTI in New Bern. So Im not sure if they could move to Greenville. I dont think the lot you are refering to is large enough to move the main station there.


This past Fridays Just Ask Mike? Segment answered the question about the FCC licence to a certain city. They have to have a Washington Address, cause the licence was granted to Washington NC.

Go to www.witntv.com
then to the J A M tab to read or view.

Electrico
08-13-07, 11:05 PM
This past Fridays Just Ask Mike? Segment answered the question about the FCC licence to a certain city. They have to have a Washington Address, cause the licence was granted to Washington NC.

Go to www.witntv.com
then to the J A M tab to read or view.
I get better answers from any of my dogs than from MR. Maybe if I change my name he might...

agregjones
08-15-07, 10:05 AM
The signal through Suddenlink for WITN HD was horrid last night. America's Got Talent and The Singing Bee were unwatchable. Did others notice this?

hdbill88
08-15-07, 11:00 AM
Greg,

That's why I have an off air indoor antenna. Forget Suddenlink!

jspENC
08-15-07, 12:30 PM
I hardly ever watch WITN, but when I do it looks good if in HD. If it's Standard def, it looks faded compared to WECT from Wilmington. I have noticed though not as much so faded as it used to a few months ago.

VARTV
08-16-07, 06:55 AM
Getting several DTVs from your area including WFPX/62 Fayetteville, WUNC/4 Chapel Hill, and WITN/7 Washington...

http://www.vartv.com/images/WITN_2007_08_16.jpg

agregjones
08-16-07, 12:03 PM
Greg,

That's why I have an off air indoor antenna. Forget Suddenlink!

I have one too. I don't have an HD DVR attached to it, though.

jspENC
08-16-07, 01:00 PM
Why can't they just put built in DVR's in the TV itself? I'm sick of all these "boxes". All it does is allow satellite and cable a way to make more money!

Retspin
08-16-07, 06:31 PM
Getting several DTVs from your area including WFPX/62 Fayetteville, WUNC/4 Chapel Hill, and WITN/7 Washington...

http://www.vartv.com/images/WITN_2007_08_16.jpg


Here in Wilson this morning I picked up several FM's from the Outer Banks that I rarely get and 93.7 was coming in like a local. I'm sure that I could have picked up lots of VA DTV's if I had been home.

How often do you get NC stations up in VA Beach?

foxeng
08-16-07, 06:44 PM
Why can't they just put built in DVR's in the TV itself? I'm sick of all these "boxes". All it does is allow satellite and cable a way to make more money!

[Kung Fu voice]"Very good grasshopper!" [/Kung Fu voice]

Because of shear numbers, manufacturers make more profit from STB's than TV's. But without the TV's, there is no need to make the STB's! :)

VARTV
08-16-07, 07:39 PM
Here in Wilson this morning I picked up several FM's from the Outer Banks that I rarely get and 93.7 was coming in like a local. I'm sure that I could have picked up lots of VA DTV's if I had been home.

How often do you get NC stations up in VA Beach?Probably more IF my antenna was pointed SW/SSW instead it's pointed towards Richmond... over 100 miles away...

jamieh1
08-16-07, 09:41 PM
Anyone with a Samsung LN-T series 2007 model HDTV Samsung finally has a firmware update for the MUTE and TEARING ISSUES. Call Samsung and they will email you the software update, and you can download it by USB or USB THUMB DRIVE.

jspENC
08-19-07, 08:06 PM
:eek: This new board isn't as good as the old one. I put the black background back up as my skin, but it looks like charcoal.

Did most of you see where WRAZ was going to air classic TV shows on 50.2?

jamieh1
08-21-07, 09:27 AM
I see that WITN has updated the website with new WITN logos, I wonder when it will start on air? New music, New graphics?


I wish they would redo WITN 24/7 WX also.

keiths71240z
08-21-07, 11:13 AM
Why is 9.1 about 2-4 seconds ahead of 5.1? I live in Winterville, so I'm much closer to 9.1s tower.

jspENC
08-21-07, 02:36 PM
Why is 9.1 about 2-4 seconds ahead of 5.1? I live in Winterville, so I'm much closer to 9.1s tower.

I believe that it has something to do with protecting them from airing indecent programming? They have a delay so that they can catch something inappropriate before it get's out to the viewer.

Hopefully someone out there can clarify that in a bit more detail, but I think that is the gist of it.:)

easternncnewswat
08-21-07, 09:28 PM
I believe that it has something to do with protecting them from airing indecent programming? They have a delay so that they can catch something inappropriate before it get's out to the viewer.

Hopefully someone out there can clarify that in a bit more detail, but I think that is the gist of it.:)

That's the gist of it. WRAL doesn't want to take the chance of showing Janet's boob again. :D

easternncnewswat
08-21-07, 09:29 PM
On a personal level, it doesn't bother me to see a boob. *LOL*

tnorrispj
08-24-07, 01:48 PM
Does anyone have any QAM channel info for the Time-Warner Jacksonville area? I've got Directv, but I have Roadrunner internet service. I can connect the cable that normally would connect to my cable modem into my HDTV, and when I do a channel scan I get a bunch of channels. I'm most interested in the local HD channels. I get PBS HD on channel 79-7, in addition to the other pbs channels, but I don't see 7,9,12, or 8/14.

Thanks in advance

jspENC
08-24-07, 02:16 PM
but I don't see 7,9,12, or 8/14.

If those channels are not there, I believe that is a violation of the FCC rules? I thought all locals had to be in the clear.

Jesse31
08-24-07, 02:50 PM
Why is 9.1 about 2-4 seconds ahead of 5.1? I live in Winterville, so I'm much closer to 9.1s tower.

It has been that way for years...even analog is like that.

ballardkringle
08-25-07, 09:35 AM
The new logo for WITN is now showing up on their newscast. Just Ask Mike on Friday explained the absence of 7 from the logo. The new news set debuts Monday.

VARTV
08-25-07, 09:59 AM
The new logo for WITN is now showing up on their newscast. Just Ask Mike on Friday explained the absence of 7 from the logo. The new news set debuts Monday.
Why is the "7" missing?

ballardkringle
08-25-07, 12:28 PM
Mike basically said that WITN is on different channel numbers on different cable systems as well as only having digital channel 32 OTA in 2009. I guess that makes "7" irrelevant in today's world. I however miss the 7 also their competitors still display their channel numbers. I wonder if they will drop their channel numbers as well in the future?

ballardkringle
08-25-07, 12:36 PM
One more thing - this CBS affiliate has done the same thing-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLBK-TV

jspENC
08-25-07, 01:06 PM
I'm not sure what cable has to do with anything. They could request to be on 7 on those cable systems. Also digital channel 32 is still going to have to be displayed as 7.1 etc... Maybe they aren't happy that the FCC refused them VHF 7 after analog goes down! Where is the nearest channel 7 besides WITN? Virginia?

HBO
08-25-07, 08:02 PM
Hi all, from New Bern here and this is a GREAT forum!

We are on analog Suddenlink as well as internet. My old Mitsubishi crapped out the other day and we've ordered a new Samsung 50" plasma to replace it. Of course I am looking into which way to go for our digital as well as HD programming.

Let me first say that the analog cable reception is absolutely horrid and almost unwatchable on most all the upper channels. Internet connection is on most of the time, but that has it's problems. I'm not real impressed with Suddenlink to begin with. But now that we'll have an HDTV set, I went online to inquire about what it's going to cost us to get digital cable with all the tiers except premium programming like HBO. I can NOT find an answer to this very basic question on their site anywhere. All I see are packages for new subscribers.

Am I making a mistake to even bother with Suddenlink and just go satellite from the get-go? I have 3 children, ages 3, 9 and 13.......but I don't know if they'd even be able to benefit at all from the digital cable as they have standard old sets in their rooms. I'm fairly up on the technology of the digital as well as the HD, but I am totally confused at what this dang cable company even offers! Also, if you were to recommend sat., is there a preferred outfit here in Eastern Carolina?

Thanks so much! And oh, don't be confused by my screen name.....those are actually my initials and I've been around much longer than Home Box Office! :)

Howard

jspENC
08-25-07, 08:19 PM
Welcome Howard!

If I had to choose between cable, dish or Direct, I would still choose Direct. That's what I have now, and I still believe it is the best choice. A couple of TV station engineers that post on here, Ken12 and Foxeng both have Direct also, if that helps. I trust sources such as those before I would trust any other, since they work in the TV business and know the lastest technologies. I have no idea about an installation choice out of New Bern, but hopefully someone from there will lead you to a good one. Neither company offers HD locals yet, but with an antenna, you should be able to pick all of them up from your location using either your TV tuner or the box the satellite company gives you. You might need a multi-directional antenna or rotor because of FOX being in the opposite direction from the others if you decide to go that way.

jamieh1
08-25-07, 11:33 PM
Howard,
I have been with Directv since 1996, I also have SuddenLink for my internet service, I also get all the analog channels as well, there were signal issues on the main line down the road and the Suddenlink service man just unblocked all the channels at the pole, but I do not use them.
I have DIRECTV HD SERVICE, I have the HR20-700 HDDVR, It goes for about $199-$299 or cheaper, depends on what directv rep you get. If you are interested in just a hd box (non dvr) you it is $99 then a $100 cash back, or instant rebate.
Plus Directv will launch 100 HD channel by the end of the year, starting in about 2-3 weeks. With the launch of another satellite in the spring Directv will have the capacity to have about 150 national HD channels, and 1500 local HD channels.
They say they will offer most locals in hd soon.

If you are getting a Samsung HDTV most of the new models have a QAM TUNER, which you can hook your cable tv connection to and get all the local HD channels free thru Suddenlink, QAM channels are digital cable channels that are not scrambled.
All the locals, and when digital cable has free previews of movie channel they show up.
You dont have to subscribe to digital cable to get them, just plug in the cable wire and scan in the channels.

Suddenlink prices are crazy,
this is a ball park price.

HD box $9.95
HD service $9.95
Digital getway, $4.95 (guide, music choice, ppv chs, access to digital cable)
digital base package $6.96 1 tier, extra tiers add about $5 each.

Directv
HD ACCESS $ 9.99
current channels
ESPN HD
ESPN 2 HD
UNIVERSAL HD
TNT HD
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plus (included with HBO OR SHOWTIME PACKAGE)
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over 185 channels including locals
WITN 7
WNCT 9
WCTI 12
WYDO 14
WNCTDT2 THE CW 15
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WNUV 385 THE CW from Baltimore Md

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Directv also have interactive tv features in the recievers, you can access WEATHER(current conditions, five day, maps)
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free install free equipment

HBO
08-25-07, 11:57 PM
Thanks a LOT for those replies! We just learned more here from 2 posts than from hours and hours of searching to no avail.

We'll have the tv in about 3 weeks time and I'd love to get rid of suddenlink altogether, but still stuck with the internet access. Actually, I was one of the first on cable modem with @home out in California many years ago and had been with Cox ever since. They were half decent, I was even able to keep my email address when I moved east about 4 years ago. I can't say Cox is any better than this new Suddenlink, but there's something about the company that rubs me the wrong way although I can't put my finger on it. Cox definitely had better commercials though!

In any case, it sure looks like Directv is who we'll go with and I appreciate all the help. I am self installing my tv on a wall mount and am super excited about HD. Glad to be part of the group and I have a lot of reading up to do here and will have a lot of questions I'm sure after I get it all connected. :D

jspENC
08-26-07, 05:39 PM
I've noticed with the last few rounds of Severe storm warnings that WCTI doesn't include Wayne, Wilson, Pender and Sampson counties on their bug anymore. I remember mentioning this once before and they corrected that, but since took those off again? Maybe they only are concerned with the DMA rather than their whole viewership? Right now WITN includes the most counties, also WNCT misses Pender and Sampson which WITN includes, plus a few others way out to the Northeast.

I wonder when it will be the norm to get the warnings to show up on the HD channels like they do on the analog? The crawl on WNCT and the bug do not show up when in HD mode.

Brandonw27858
08-27-07, 01:08 AM
This is off topic, and may have already been answered, but when is SuddenLink going to actually have FoxHD in HD? None of the programs are actually in HD as far as I can tell. What is the point of having the HD channel if its going to look exactly like the analog channel?

RMartin631
08-27-07, 02:39 AM
That might not be a Suddenlink issue. Fox, like NBC, CBS and ABC gets cheap with the HD programming in the summertime. If you saw the game between the Steelers and Philly was it in HD?

brewtus00
08-27-07, 12:53 PM
does anyone have any new info on if ESPN2 HD will be coming to suddenlink anytime soon or if they plan to bring back NFL Network to suddenlink anytime soon

jamieh1
08-27-07, 04:14 PM
Suddenlink atleast here in Washington and Greenville has WYDO FOX HD, if you are seeing the sidebars, than you are getting HD.
I flipped over last night to the QAM tuner on my tv and it had a HD program on.

jamieh1
08-27-07, 05:20 PM
The new WITN look! What do you think?

I think it is going to take some getting use to. There is too much dark blue.

Im just in the first few minutes of the 5p news, going to watch more to get a better look at it.

Still has the same music, and before the break the STILL TO COME graphic is still the old look.



Wonder when WITN 24/7 weather channel will get a new look.

jspENC
08-27-07, 06:32 PM
I think it looks a lot better than it did before, but there is still room for improvements. Like you say, some of the old logo's and that voice guy is horrible in my opinion, but it is shaping up.

foxeng
08-27-07, 06:56 PM
Any screencaps?

easternncnewswat
08-27-07, 07:34 PM
Same set, just changed out the background... Desk looks horrible with the dark blue colors. Should have gotten a new desk. Was expecting much more; disappointed here.

ballardkringle
08-27-07, 08:45 PM
I agree. They have a whole lot left to do to catch up with WNCT and WCTI!

jamieh1
08-27-07, 09:03 PM
The carpet didnt match, they left the old wood paneling up over the desk, you could even see a faded mark over the ver top of the back drop on the paneling where the WITN TV logo use to be.

You would thing with new graphics and set that they would update the opening and the music.

easternncnewswat
08-27-07, 09:33 PM
Well, Rome wasn't built in a day. I suppose it's a start but I did expect the full kit and kaboodle. At least it's something for them. They've got some good folks over there! :)

Electrico
08-27-07, 10:02 PM
Well I am NOT going to make friends with my two cents so tighten your seat belts. First I don't care if the set looks like a burger joint in Detroit. I care more if they spend the money on adding the 5.1 Dolby Digital sound system. Secondly everytime they get a female anchor she has to have an annoying irritating giggle. The last two and the one on now. Another thing that bothers me WHY two anchor persons have to refer to the same subject? It is repetitive and annoying as well. One refers to the ECU FB team and the other refers to Rob Kass DUI. BTW he's one of ECU QB's that blew a 0.19. He's got a lot of explaining to do, stay tuned...

shogun77
08-27-07, 10:50 PM
For the past month or so there's been a tiny row of blank pixels in the middle/top of the screen on WCTI's HD channel. Anyone else have this problem? What could it be?

Brandonw27858
08-28-07, 12:43 AM
Suddenlink atleast here in Washington and Greenville has WYDO FOX HD, if you are seeing the sidebars, than you are getting HD.
I flipped over last night to the QAM tuner on my tv and it had a HD program on.

Yes every prgram has side bars, but thats just it. When are they going to carry shows in 16x9 aspect? When I watch say football on CBS on Sunday and it is in HD, I can tell its in HD, full 16x9 screen and great pic. WhenI watch football on Fox on Sunday on the HD channel, it is 4x3 aspect and the pic looks like crap. Am I missing something?

foxeng
08-28-07, 07:53 AM
I suppose it's a start but I did expect the full kit and kaboodle.

From someone who has been through several news image changeovers (including graphics, sets, music, imaging) it takes months (one change took over a year). Our last change in 2003 took 7 months and that included a complete set change.

If the new GM at WITN has only been there a month or two, he hasn't had time to get it all together yet. Sounds like he knows there is a problem and it has to be addressed now, but he hasn't the money in the budget yet to do what is needed for a complete makeover so he is doing what he can with the what he has at his disposal until he can do better. It is a common theme in broadcasting. Stop the bleeding until the money comes.

jspENC
08-28-07, 12:06 PM
Exactly what I was thinking foxeng. I figured it is going to take some time. At least they will compete fairly without the payoff of 7 feet of cash. They did do away with that didn't they? LOL!

posg
08-28-07, 03:18 PM
The new WITN look! What do you think?

Anything would be an improvement over the "multi pastel colored popcorn ceiling" look. I see a lot of TV in my travels, but that had to be the cheeziest look I've seen anywhere.

jspENC
08-28-07, 05:43 PM
Anything would be an improvement over the "multi pastel colored popcorn ceiling" look. I see a lot of TV in my travels, but that had to be the cheeziest look I've seen anywhere.

I agree. It was awful.

brewtus00
08-29-07, 03:44 PM
Question to anyone with directv and suddenlink internet. Im thinking about dropping my digital cable and switching the directv but still keeping my internet with suddenlink and maybe getting the analog channel package that inclues 2-13 i think. My question is i noticed on a channel scan of the regular channels through cable(no digital box attached) that the local stations in HD would come through
WRAL HD 92.1
UNCTV HD 92.3
WYDO HD 94.101
WNCT HD 0
WITN HD 100.8
WCTI 100.18
What I want to know is if I reduced my cable package down to just internet and 2-13 analog stations would I still pick up these stations in HD. That is the only thing holding me back from getting directv because I know that dont carry local HD channels yet for Greenville area. And reverting to an antenna is not a real possibility for me I tried one before to get Fox HD from raleigh and the position of my house and the traffic going by caused a lot of interuption in the signal. If anyone knows what im talking about I would appreciate any help I know this is a long one but its the only way I knew how to describe. I feel like suddenlink is screwing me over not so much with the cost of the service but the lack of good channels clear channels and I really dont forsee them having as many HD stations as satelite anytime soon. Thanks for any help you can give me

jamieh1
08-29-07, 04:59 PM
You will still get the digital QAM channels even with out getting the analog 2-13 channels, the cable company puts a trap on your line that filters out certain channel ranges, the QAM channels are digital and will not be blocked.
So cancel the cable channels and save $9.00, Suddenlink basic use to be around $6, now its $9.

You should be getting
WITN HD
WITN WX
WNCT HD
WCTI HD
WCTI ENC TV
WYDO HD
UNC TV
UNC HD
UNC KD
UNC ED
UNC NC
WRAL HD
WRAL NC
INDEMAND PPV PREVIEWS

jspENC
08-29-07, 07:02 PM
I just heard a new voice guy on WITN! He sounds a whole lot better. Not overbearing and loud like the other one. It looks like things are rapidly improving.

jamieh1
08-30-07, 04:49 PM
$5.95 Digital Gateway (includes PPV and Premium access, program guide, and Music choice channels)

$8.95 Digital select -Discovery tier and 1 other tier
$10.95 Digital duo - Discovery +2 other tiers
$12.95 Digital value- Discovery + 3
$14.95 Digital plus- Discovery + 4
$16.95 Digital deluxe- Discovery + 5

$4.95 DVR Service
no charge - HD Broadcast (locals)
no charge - HD BASIC (TNT HD)
$7.95 - HD Plus (Discov HD Theatre, ESPN HD, HDNET, HDNET MOVIES,HGTV HD, FOOD HD, NAT GEOG HD, A&E HD)

$4.25-Standard digital box
$9.95-HD box
$9.95-DVR or HD DVR
$1.99-Cable card

pretty high once you pay gate way access fee, then fee for cable box, fee for DVR service, fee for HD, $9.95 for a rental fee, they are crazy.

to get all the digital channels you pay
$16.95(dig.chs) + $4.95(gateway)+$4.25/$9.95(box) thats about $21 on top of the $45.95 analog channels

DIRECTV or DISH has all digital channels and its cheaper, with more channels.

keiths71240z
09-03-07, 03:23 PM
Is someone going to make a box to convert digital signals to analog?

jamieh1
09-03-07, 04:33 PM
Im assuming that you are talking about using a digital over the air set top on a old tv.
The set top box will work, all you have to do is use the composite hook up(red white yellow) or the COAX out put.

The HD channels of course want be HD.

foxeng
09-03-07, 09:57 PM
Is someone going to make a box to convert digital signals to analog?

They already do.

RMartin631
09-05-07, 03:23 PM
Is someone going to make a box to convert digital signals to analog?

They can easily be found on eBay.

RMartin631
09-05-07, 03:29 PM
Our last change in 2003 took 7 months and that included a complete set change.

I personally hope they are just doing a little window dressing in anticipation of all new studios at their recently purchased property on Arlington Blvd. Go the whole route, up to date sets, HD local news, 2,000,000 watt radar :D. Stuff like that. They're already leading the market in traffic cameras. 2 from Greenville would be nice but 1 is more than anybody else.

Electrico
09-05-07, 06:36 PM
Well, well:
WITN Lynnette Taylor referred to Virginia Tech as a "power house" during Sunday's evening(6p-6:30p) news. It is a good thing she doesn't know beans about sports much less CFB. VT has NEVER WON a single National Championship. ND, USC and FL are "power houses", period, please?

jspENC
09-06-07, 12:04 PM
Anyone notice we are back to market rank 105 according to Neilson?

easternncnewswat
09-06-07, 08:37 PM
Anyone notice we are back to market rank 105 according to Neilson?

Yeah, we were pretty excited about that week before last I think. Sorry I didn't mention. Haven't really had a chance to visit as much as I used to.

Electrico
09-07-07, 03:29 PM
Can someone tell the WITN female anchor with her funny goo-goo eyes contact and her sad girlish faces that all that stuff is very annoying? Not to mention her also aggravating giggles...

jspENC
09-07-07, 04:16 PM
Did you e-mail her?;)

J/K!

popweaverhdtv
09-07-07, 04:49 PM
I just heard a new voice guy on WITN! He sounds a whole lot better. Not overbearing and loud like the other one. It looks like things are rapidly improving.

Actually, this is the voice over guy who was used by WITN in the 80's and most of the 90's. Yeah, the old voice over guy was overbearing and loud. It actually made me want to change the channel every time I heard him...

jspENC
09-08-07, 05:56 PM
I saw this morning on 12 where someone had fixed the map. It includes the counties I had mentioned in a previous post that were missing. :)

Electrico
09-09-07, 01:41 AM
Well, well!:
The so called "power house" VT according to WITN week-end female anchor got smashed by LSU 48-7, say no more...

jamieh1
09-09-07, 01:53 PM
How about those PIRATES!!!

jspENC
09-09-07, 02:42 PM
How about those PIRATES!!!

:D

Electrico
09-09-07, 09:40 PM
How about those PIRATES!!!
Wow that is WHY they are in Conference USA...
They are NOT ready to play with the big boys of the SEC and Pac-10, such as my Trojans of the University Of Southern California>Fight On!
NC:
LSU VS USC
USC the NC's!

jspENC
09-10-07, 11:14 AM
WCTI and WITN gave great coverage of the storm, what little there was to Gabrielle. 12 seemed to have the most information from the field. WNCT ran a crawl often. WITN flashed their map bug all weekend too.

Electrico
09-10-07, 02:41 PM
WCTI and WITN gave great coverage of the storm, what little there was to Gabrielle. 12 seemed to have the most information from the field. WNCT ran a crawl often. WITN flashed their map bug all weekend too.
While your criticism is NOTED and applauded in the past such as Floyd the public got outraged that certain nearby sections were NOT covered as the public expected to. Draw your own conclusions...

jspENC
09-10-07, 03:22 PM
Electrico if I'm reading your post right, I agree. I thought there should have been more time spent on this storm by all the stations. Some more than others fit this observation, and some areas are not covered at all by any station. I didn't watch the TV all weekend, but when I did check it, the stuff I mentioned is what I caught.

If I read you wrong, please forgive.

Electrico
09-10-07, 07:06 PM
Electrico if I'm reading your post right, I agree. I thought there should have been more time spent on this storm by all the stations. Some more than others fit this observation, and some areas are not covered at all by any station. I didn't watch the TV all weekend, but when I did check it, the stuff I mentioned is what I caught.

If I read you wrong, please forgive.
Sir:
An apology is NOT needed>I agree with you.
Thnx

jspENC
09-10-07, 08:36 PM
Hopefully with the next storm coverage will improve. I think if the storm had crossed one of the stations home towns it would have been too much coverage. It seems for instance when a Thunderstorm hits Raleigh, it's all over the TV in that market, but any of their other counties and you don't get any info.

easternncnewswat
09-10-07, 10:32 PM
Did this storm really warrant wall to wall coverage? I don't really think so. There just wasn't enough significant impact. I think what we saw downeast was nothing worse than a what you might see on a typical summer afternoon when storms train over the same area. Living on the obx and riding out many tropical systems, sometimes the Nor Easters were worse than Gabrielle this past weekend.

If the system had been better organized with potential to go cat 2, the results might have been different. Hell, of course they would. Who're we kidding?

I wish you'd go lead the debate on my blog. I updated it last night asking people to chime in on how much was too much and little was too little. So far, I haven't had any takers to my question. *LOL*

Anyways, my days of watching storm coverage for fun is probably past me. It's not so much fun to work during. We did some good stuff on the web this weekend. Feel free to let me know what you think and what you'd like to see more of!

jspENC
09-11-07, 08:39 AM
Maybe what I was looking for was a specific time to be given of when a station would be on the air to give an update, like the top of each hour, or every two hours, etc. I didn't hear any announcement of that from any of them. I did hear "we'll be back later into the dinner hour" or something similar from 12 I think it was.
7 was on that morning as usual, but they concentrated on national stories mostly instead of field reports. There was some sort of flood advisory for Carteret county that I never saw a bug/map or crawl for either.

I don't mean to say I thought we had no information, but the people I've talked with thought there needed to be more. Of course the football fans etc would probably disagree, especially if they are in cities where it wasn't even raining.

ncgbrown
09-11-07, 11:17 AM
Hey guys, this is my first post in here - although I have been looking in on you for a while now. Never done OTA or HD before last night. I just got a H20 Directv receiver and loosely hung a CM 4221 in the attic with no amp. Didn't really know what to expect but initially I am pleased with the channels I am picking up - I didn't know some of these channels existed. I live just north of G-ville. Could you post a channel list so I can compare with what I have to see if I want to do some fine tuning, or get an amp, or just leave it like it is?
Thanks, GB

jspENC
09-11-07, 12:52 PM
Up that way, I think you would get WRAL-WITN-WNCT-CW-WTVD-WCTI-ENC-WYDO-PBSx5-WLFL-WRDC-WRAZ

jspENC
09-11-07, 08:53 PM
If you get a chance to kill time, go over and read the Norfolk Va. Thread. They were complaining about too much coverage with a continuous map and crawl for an area that got nothing, (HD feed was switched to SD) while in our area, we didn't get enough and we were in direct line of the storm.

VARTV
09-12-07, 06:30 AM
If you get a chance to kill time, go over and read the Norfolk Va. Thread. They were complaining about too much coverage with a continuous map and crawl for an area that got nothing, (HD feed was switched to SD) while in our area, we didn't get enough and we were in direct line of the storm.What makes it worse was that the storm, for us, turned out to be a DUD! A couple of rainshowers and some breezy conditions, that's it. Maybe HD crawls would have kept everyone quiet. I'm no fan of weather warning bugs either...

jspENC
09-12-07, 08:36 AM
I understand that they have to get word out to the viewing area when statements are issued, but some of the bugs some stations use are way overdone. For instance on WWAY out of Wilmington, they cover up more than half the screen with their initial warning, but then they shrink it to a strip at the bottom. That is OK. Sunday they used a map in the corner for our county since we were in a warning. FOX in Wilmington used a crawl at the bottom and stamp in the corner. I don't mind that kind of thing. The map 12 uses isn't too bad. If they leave the map on in the corner, I don't mind, because I like to see the radar sometimes.

jamieh1
09-17-07, 12:06 PM
Suddenlink internet subs in the Greenville, Washington area.

Speed increase in October

Current 4 Mbps - New speed 8 Mbps
Current 5 Mbps - New speed 10 Mbps

No price increase.

newinmorehead
09-18-07, 10:40 AM
Hey guys brand new here. I just got a HDTV and I have DirectTV. I know the locals out of Greenville do not broadcast in HD but if I got a HD antenna can I recieve these channels? Sorry for the basic question but i am really new to all this and plus i need to know if I am gonig to be watching my Panthers in HD

jamieh1
09-18-07, 07:46 PM
You should get the following

7.1 WITN HD
7.2 WITN 24/7 WX
9.1 WNCT HD
9.2 THE CW
12.1 WCTI HD
12.3 ENC TV
14.1 WYDO HD
14.2 WYDO SD
25.1 UNC TV
25.2 UNC HD
25.3 UNC KD
25.4 UNC ED
25.5 UNC NC
30.1 SHOP AT HOME

RAL-DURHAM CHANNELS
5.1 WRAL HD
5.2 WRAL NEWS CHANNEL
11.1 WTVD HD
11.2 WTVD SD
11.3 WTVD ACCU WEATHER
17.1 WNCN HD
17.2 WNCN SD
17.3 NBC WX PLUS
22.1 WLFL HD
28.1 WRDC HD
50.1 WRAZ HD
50.2 WRAZ SD
50.3 WRAL WEATHER CHANNEL

Some reports say they use a indoor antenna and get alot of these.

jspENC
09-18-07, 08:14 PM
In Morehead City he won't get all those.
He will get
WITN 7
WFXI 8
WNCT 9 & CW
WCTI 12 & ENC
WUNM 19 X5
WPXU 35X4
I would get a Channel Master 4221 or antennas direct 91XG UHF and a dedicated VHF high band only. Antennacraft makes a good one. At your distance, you should get a pre-amp and use RG-6 coax cable. The channel Master 7777 pre-amp will allow you to combine a UHF and VHF separately on the mast, and allow one cable run into the house. An inside model won't work well at your distance. Panthers are in HD on 8.1 WFXI
One reason for the high band is WNCT is already on channel 10, and in 2009 WCTI will be on 12 again, and WFXI will be on 8 again. Right now WCTI is on 48 and WFXI on 24

newinmorehead
09-19-07, 05:27 PM
jspenc - do you have a private email i could use to ask you a couple of questions? i would really appreciate it, thanks

jspENC
09-19-07, 06:21 PM
You can send a Private message with this board, or post it on here. Your questions might help someone else too. There are no bad questions, and someone else might have better advice than I do! :)

jamieh1
09-19-07, 06:31 PM
In Morehead City he won't get all those.
He will get
WITN 7
WFXI 8
WNCT 9 & CW
WCTI 12 & ENC
WUNM 19 X5
WPXU 35X4
I would get a Channel Master 4221 or antennas direct 91XG UHF and a dedicated VHF high band only. Antennacraft makes a good one. At your distance, you should get a pre-amp and use RG-6 coax cable. The channel Master 7777 pre-amp will allow you to combine a UHF and VHF separately on the mast, and allow one cable run into the house. An inside model won't work well at your distance. Panthers are in HD on 8.1 WFXI
One reason for the high band is WNCT is already on channel 10, and in 2009 WCTI will be on 12 again, and WFXI will be on 8 again. Right now WCTI is on 48 and WFXI on 24



For some reason I thought he was from Greenville, should of noticed the name. DUH

newinmorehead
09-19-07, 07:19 PM
1.So basically all I need to get my locals is an outdoor antenna?
2. An indoor unit would not do the job?


It just seems like I am missing something. The guys at Anderson Audio and Video had no clue, nor did the guys at Best Buy. I am finding it hard to believe that it is this simple.

Also will I get my NFL package on the existing channels or will it be new ones?

RMartin631
09-19-07, 07:48 PM
1.So basically all I need to get my locals is an outdoor antenna?
2. An indoor unit would not do the job?


It just seems like I am missing something. The guys at Anderson Audio and Video had no clue, nor did the guys at Best Buy. I am finding it hard to believe that it is this simple.

Also will I get my NFL package on the existing channels or will it be new ones?

Maybe I missed something but... What NFL package?

WITN and WNCT would be quite a trick to pick up from Morehead with just an indoor antenna.

To get my really local channels I used a basic 10 foot antenna from Radio Shack. Not being content with just the Greenville offerings I have since added a CM 4228 (thanks and a tip of the hat to WRAZ for the free antenna) and a CM 7777 amp. Both antennas are tied together at over 1 wave length on a horizontal plane and two equal lengths of quad shield RG-6 into your basic Home Depot splitter. Works great 95% of the time. I'm picking up stations from 2 different directions and distances of over 50 miles.

newinmorehead
09-19-07, 08:02 PM
The NFL Sunday Ticket. That is the only reason i have DTV. It really shocked me that I could not get my local Panther game without a antenna, just seems odd, but i will take you guys word for it.

So if i get a basic outdoor HD antenna i should be able to get my locals, and if i wanted I go supercharge my system using the setup from the post above.

***one last question, does anyone know when Directtv is picking up the locals here. Just seem silly to me that they are broadcasting in HD but not on DTV.

jspENC
09-19-07, 09:17 PM
We don't know exactly when Directv will pick up our locals, but we are thinking next spring?
Maybe?
WNCT and WITN are 60 miles from Morehead City. You will for sure need an outdoor antenna. The engineers swear by the Channel Master 4228. I have done a lot of research and have seen multiple write-ups where people have had better luck with a High band antennacraft y-10 and an antennas direct 91XG fed into a Channel Master 7777. It's your call, but I don't know if the 4228 would work for WNCT as far as you are from their tower. (It picks up high band channels better than any other UHF antenna) You could go with the radio shack yagi U-75R first and see if that will work too, if not enough, you might be able to return it and then go with the more expensive models. If money is no object, then I would go ahead and get the best and be done with it, but for sure you will need a UHF antenna, and most likely a VHF for WNCT.

Tell those people at Best Buy to read this board. I had to tell them what to do and I don't work there. Pathetic they don't know jack about antennas.

Here's the high band antenna I'm referring to.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=Y10-7-13

newinmorehead
09-20-07, 07:07 AM
thanks a ton for the info. I walked out of Best Buy yesterday and was utterly lost. The guy in there said my Sony 32'' Bravia could pick up the local channels through its tuner. I knew this was not correct so everything else he told me i took with a grain of salt. He then showed me a Terk indoor and said that would work and then after I told him to ask someone else so he friggin calls Directtv. He was trying to be helpful just not knowledgable.

So in recap are you saying I need 2 outdoor antennas one for the UHF and one for the VHF? Or could i just get the one in your link and it should work...if i am lucky.

jspENC
09-20-07, 08:52 AM
If your Sony BRavia has a built in Digital tuner, then yes it can pick up the HD signals from the broadcasters towers. Stay away from TERK. They are crap.

The antenna I linked will get you WNCT 9.1 CBS HD and CW 9.2 They are the only ones currently on a VHF channel (10) PBS is on 18--WFXI FOX is on 24--WITN NBC is on 32--MyNetworkTV on 34--and WCTI ABC & ENCTV on 48.
In February 2009, WCTI will be going back to 12, WFXI back to 8, so that high band will be used more then. But you need a UHF and VHF, or a good UHF/VHF combination, but I think you get better performance with seperate antennas. You will need a pre-amp CM 7777 or a UHF/VHF joiner. Channel master has those you can order. They are cheap.

newinmorehead
09-20-07, 10:02 AM
nevermind

RMartin631
09-20-07, 12:52 PM
nevermind

Don't let all of our blah, blah, blah discourage you. We're just used to speaking this way.

If you don't have any nearby obstructions like water towers, thick stands of trees or tall buildings between you and Grifton then a decent UHF/VHF antenna mounted as high as possible should do it.

The situation I have is a 200+ foot water tower right behind my house and a thick stand of trees between me and the antenna farm at Raleigh. My single 10 foot Radio Shack antenna worked fine until the leaves filled out on the trees. Then I had to go to extreme measures to get decent reception. Most people don't.

jspENC
09-20-07, 01:34 PM
Winegard has some decent UHF/VHF combination antennas. Lowes has a couple of Phillips outside models now, but I haven't heard if they are any good or not. If you decide on a combination antenna, you won't need the joiner. I don't know what kind of luck your going to have with WFXI being to the side of the antenna if you point towards Grifton. That is just going to take trial and error. I use a rotator because I have channels coming from Wilmington and Greenville plus Morehead.

This is what the combination style looks like... it is much larger than what the others I mentioned would be.


http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?main_cat=03&CAT=&PROD=SHD7082

jspENC
09-22-07, 03:24 PM
Have any of you seen that ad running about MASN network not being on Suddenlink and Time warner? I didn't even know I had this channel until recently... When are we going to see ECU play on the channel? It looks like some other good games will air on it.

Cable is out for every penny they can get! They won't put it on basic cable. THey want the custormer to have to get the digital tier and pay about $20.00 more a month.

brewtus00
09-23-07, 01:37 PM
someone needs to tell WYDO to hit the HD button the game on now is not showing in HD

jspENC
09-23-07, 01:57 PM
FOX 26 in Wilmington is in HD. The other night when I was watching "Back to You" on WFXI the show started in HD then they flipped back to SD about 20 minutes into it. When they did that I turned to 26.1 and they were in HD.
I just checked 8.1 and it is not in HD either, but 26.1 is, so someone in Morehead fell asleep at the control board.

harperjj04
09-23-07, 06:39 PM
Yeah WYDO is definitely not showing HD because the halftime show during the Panthers game wasn't in HD either. This is pathetic on WYDOs part.

ballardkringle
09-24-07, 09:34 AM
Here we go again!

:(

brewtus00
09-24-07, 08:42 PM
i really dont like fox 8/14

harperjj04
09-26-07, 04:39 PM
How do we get in touch with Don Fisher and find out why WYDO is sucking so bad right now? I had to watch Prison Break in SD!!!!

jamieh1
09-26-07, 05:54 PM
Directv launched the first wave of New HD channels today. 21 channels



CNN HD
NFL NETWORK HD
BIG TEN NETWORK HD
TBS HD
SMITHSONIAN CHANNEL HD
A&E HD
THE HISTORY CHANNEL HD
TLC HD
ANIMAL PLANET HD
SCIENCE CHANNEL HD
DISCOVERY CHANNEL HD
THE WEATHER CHANNEL HD
VS HD
GOLF HD
SHOWTIME TOO HD
SHOWTIME WEST HD
STARZ COMEDY HD
STARZ EDGE HD
STARZ HD
STARZ KIDS HD
THE MOVIE CHANNEL HD

These are all MPEG 4 and require HR20 H20 or H21 HD reciever and a 5 LNB KAKU dish.

This is the 1st wave, more coming soon.

jspENC
09-26-07, 08:18 PM
WFXI is in HD tonight. They still have that HUGE blue FOX bug in the corner. They need to implement their own logo like most other stations have done.

jspENC
09-26-07, 08:21 PM
Directv launched the first wave of New HD channels today. 21 channels



CNN HD
NFL NETWORK HD
BIG TEN NETWORK HD
TBS HD
SMITHSONIAN CHANNEL HD
A&E HD
THE HISTORY CHANNEL HD
TLC HD
ANIMAL PLANET HD
SCIENCE CHANNEL HD
DISCOVERY CHANNEL HD
THE WEATHER CHANNEL HD
VS HD
GOLF HD
SHOWTIME TOO HD
SHOWTIME WEST HD
STARZ COMEDY HD
STARZ EDGE HD
STARZ HD
STARZ KIDS HD
THE MOVIE CHANNEL HD

These are all MPEG 4 and require HR20 H20 or H21 HD reciever and a 5 LNB KAKU dish.

This is the 1st wave, more coming soon.

Looks good. Now if they can just get their act together with their installers. I have a feeling demand is going to start skyrocketing, because Directv is the only provider with a solid plan. They might have been a little slow getting started, but with the technology in overdrive if you don't have a plan ahead of the next big thing, you can't keep up anyway.:)

jspENC
09-28-07, 10:34 PM
Has anyone seen that new radar on WRAL.com? You can watch the live dual doppler in action on your media player. The radar wars are on in the Triangle again! I wonder which station around here now will get the Vertical/Horizontal radar?:D

RMartin631
09-29-07, 06:35 AM
Has anyone seen that new radar on WRAL.com? You can watch the live dual doppler in action on your media player. The radar wars are on in the Triangle again! I wonder which station around here now will get the Vertical/Horizontal radar?:D

It's probably going to be a long time before you see any Greenville DMA station with the capabilites that WRAL has. WRAL has the newest VIPIR package that Baron Services offers and is the only station in the nation with it. To get the capabilites of WRAL requires high def local news and it may be a while before any local station makes that jump.

http://www.baronservices.com/news_pdf/WRAL_HD_VIPIR.pdf

jspENC
09-29-07, 10:21 AM
I don't think they use HD Vipir anymore now that they have this new dual Doppler, but I'm not sure because I can't pick them up very often. They have some video of the installation of the new radar antenna and how it works on their web-site.

jspENC
09-30-07, 10:14 AM
If you haven't checked out "Just ask Mike's" BLOG on WITN or didn't see the Friday edition, go take a look. A couple of us got mentioned, and our discussion about the voice guy. I hope our comments helped.

RMartin631
09-30-07, 01:36 PM
I don't think they use HD Vipir anymore now that they have this new dual Doppler, but I'm not sure because I can't pick them up very often.

Yeah, you're probably right. The date on that document I linked to is last year. It must be nice to have that kind of money.

foxeng
09-30-07, 04:12 PM
If you haven't checked out "Just ask Mike's" BLOG on WITN or didn't see the Friday edition, go take a look. A couple of us got mentioned, and our discussion about the voice guy. I hope our comments helped.

Nice shout out jspENC! It did take me literally about 5 minutes to find "Just ask Mike's" blog icon panel. I kept looking and looking and looking and never saw it. Now I realize that I am not in the viewing area and so I am not targeted, but WITN needs to eliminate the clutter on their web page. It is too difficult to distinguish the different parts.

Just my opinion.

jspENC
09-30-07, 06:30 PM
Nice shout out jspENC! It did take me literally about 5 minutes to find "Just ask Mike's" blog icon panel. I kept looking and looking and looking and never saw it. Now I realize that I am not in the viewing area and so I am not targeted, but WITN needs to eliminate the clutter on their web page. It is too difficult to distinguish the different parts.

Just my opinion.

Thanks! :) I agree about their web-page. They could take a lesson from easterns work on WNCT.com! I enjoy the blogs on WNCT too, I read them often and find them informative about what goes on "inside". Great ideas those blogs are.

foxeng
09-30-07, 08:25 PM
I enjoy the blogs on WNCT too, I read them often and find them informative about what goes on "inside". Great ideas those blogs are.

We have the same thing on our webpage as well.

jspENC
10-01-07, 08:48 PM
THE TUBE music network is no more. On 26.2 they have the whole screen filled up saying that Due to circumstances beyond their control, the tube music network is no longer available. DO NOT CALL WSFX or your Cable provider.

I went to www.thetubetv.com and it says they went bankrupt.

blueline
10-01-07, 11:48 PM
Whats up with WITN not switching to HD at 11:30? Saturday Night Live didnt make the switchover on time and Jay Leno tonight didnt make it either....and their webpage was down. Realy, how hard can it be to do it on time?

jspENC
10-02-07, 08:54 AM
Whats up with WITN not switching to HD at 11:30? Saturday Night Live didnt make the switchover on time and Jay Leno tonight didnt make it either....and their webpage was down. Realy, how hard can it be to do it on time?

WITN has always been that way with SNL. They didn't get the HD turned on until after the first commercial.:mad: A lot of times if their news comes on after an HD program, you get just a blank screen during the entire newscast.

ballardkringle
10-02-07, 09:46 AM
I know it's cost prohibitive for all our stations in our area but I wish all programming could be in HD! It's going to be a long transition in Eastern Carolina! :(

jspENC
10-02-07, 11:50 AM
I know it's cost prohibitive for all our stations in our area but I wish all programming could be in HD! It's going to be a long transition in Eastern Carolina! :(

It will be ten years I bet before all shows will be HD. We can't even get Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy! in HD and they've been HD since the start of last season. THe only station close to our area that shows them in HD is WTVD. I hope when they move to VHF on 2/18/09 that I can pick them up more often.

popweaverhdtv
10-02-07, 01:41 PM
If you haven't checked out "Just ask Mike's" BLOG on WITN or didn't see the Friday edition, go take a look. A couple of us got mentioned, and our discussion about the voice guy. I hope our comments helped.

Cool deal....that's the second time that an e-mail or posting of mine has been mentioned on the "Just Ask Mike" segment. I have to say that the newscast is a total package where each component has to complement each other (the music, graphics, talent, news content, etc.). Otherwise, how have some of the powerhouse news stations in the country made it this long (i.e. WRAL, WSVN, WHDH, WABC, WSB, etc.). It's good to know that Mike does read our comments...thank goodness for technology!

Electrico
10-03-07, 07:19 AM
As of 0605 EDT the following 11 HD CH's were added by D*:
240 USA, 244 SCFI, 273 Bravo, 504 HBOW, 512 MAX, 514 MAXW and these sport channels:
622, 623, 625, 629, 640
Maybe next Wednesday we get NGHD.:o Some Food network fans are disappointed as well.:mad:

jspENC
10-03-07, 08:42 AM
I'm glad I have Directv! They might be a bit slow, but at least they deliver.

lsbrodsky
10-03-07, 03:45 PM
Could one of the experts please tell me why I cannot receive 12.1 in NB? I am using a new RCA amplified indoor antenna that brings in 7.1, 7.2, 19.1-19.5 real well. tvfool.com tells me that 12.1 is the same tower as 19.x and 12.1 is a stronger xmitted signal. The real channel is 48 vs 18 but would that make that much difference? A separate issue is that this antenna is amplified VHF and UHF but it doesn't begin to get 9.1 or 9.2 either, no matter what i do with the VHF portion for real channel 10. Thanks
Larry

jamieh1
10-03-07, 08:00 PM
Possible that MHD will launch Thursday morning at 6am on Directv 332

Electrico
10-04-07, 09:58 AM
Hip up>noted
NGHD>>>>>>>>limbo:mad:>>Pathetic

jamieh1
10-04-07, 12:41 PM
MHD launched this morning at 6am on Directv.

EDIT: Sorry didnt see the post above.

agregjones
10-04-07, 04:28 PM
I have been really impressed with the picture quality on DirecTV's new MPEG4 HD channels thus far. The MPEG2 looked good on a few channels but the MPEG4 is consistently great. Now if only we could fix some of the content providers with the stretched material.

jamieh1
10-04-07, 07:23 PM
The worst channel on the new Directv HD lineup is TBS HD, everything is SD stretched. Only thing on TBS HD so far that looked good is the baseball games.

And SCI FI HD, Ive have not seen any thing in HD yet.
USA HD looks awesome.
From what Ive heard Directv is sending a full resolution signal, its not compressed.

MHD looks really good, and The Science Channel HD looks good.
Smithsonian Channel HD as well.

jamieh1
10-04-07, 07:29 PM
I rescanned my channels on my TV's QAM Tuner on Suddenlink and channel 81-93 came in and its KIDZ ONLY-Music Choice
it even has the animated back ground that tells the channels song titles and back ground images.

ncgbrown
10-05-07, 08:46 AM
Been wiring antennas, cable, and sat connections for about a month now. Yesterday I finally bought my first HDTV - Panny Th-50PX75U. Running DirecTV (slimline dish), $6 Suddenlink (for internet and now QAM), and OTA via CM 4221. All the hard work running cable to my impossible TV location is paying off - unbelievable PQ. Really makes me want to watch HD stuff - D* MPEG4 looks awesome.

Some questions for you Greenville/Washington guys - I did a channel scan with my Panny for QAM and unfortunately it does not do a good job eliminiating unused channels. Do you have a channel listing for Suddenlink QAM channels (actual channel/symbolic representation?)

Also, I just bought a Hughes HTL-HD receiver that I gave to my Granddad to use for OTA. But when I go to add/remove channels it does not show them in their symbolic listing (ex 9-1) - it lists the actual channel mappings which I can't recognize.

I guess what I need is a channel mapping for OTA and QAM for the Greenville area - symbolic representation vs. actual channel.

Thanks for the help already jamieh1 - Got that slimline dish pointed myself with >95% on the 103b. After over a year of reading about HD it is nice to actually watch some.
GB

jspENC
10-05-07, 09:08 AM
I can help with OTA

WNCT-10
WUMN-18
WYDO-21
WFXI-24
WRDC-27
WITN-32
WPXU-34
WCTI-48
WTVD-52
WRAL-53
WNCN-55
WLFL-57

I think that's all?

agregjones
10-05-07, 11:12 AM
And SCI FI HD, Ive have not seen any thing in HD yet.
USA HD looks awesome.
From what Ive heard Directv is sending a full resolution signal, its not compressed.


ScifiHD had some HD material later last night. The flags were still not showing it as HD, but the material was obviously high definition later last night. It was real and it was spectacular.

jspENC
10-05-07, 12:49 PM
Could one of the experts please tell me why I cannot receive 12.1 in NB? I am using a new RCA amplified indoor antenna that brings in 7.1, 7.2, 19.1-19.5 real well. tvfool.com tells me that 12.1 is the same tower as 19.x and 12.1 is a stronger xmitted signal. The real channel is 48 vs 18 but would that make that much difference? A separate issue is that this antenna is amplified VHF and UHF but it doesn't begin to get 9.1 or 9.2 either, no matter what i do with the VHF portion for real channel 10. Thanks
Larry

Larry,
I'm not sure why you would be able to get 7 and 19 but not the 9's and 12's...

Recently I built my own 4-bay clone UHF antenna. I had some aluminum ground wire I didn't need. I tried it inside and could get the frequencies in the 30's very well. (WSFX-30 / WPXU-34 and WITN-32) I could not get WNCT at all, or WFXI and had a very difficult time with WCTI-48 and WWAY-46
It doesn't make sense why some came in easily and others didn't to me, but I think in all likelyhood it is the house itself that is blocking the signals and creating all kinds of multi-paths. When I use my outside antenna, I have no problems with any signal. I still think the best thing you could do is put an antenna up high as possible, and outside if you can.

larry3706
10-05-07, 02:20 PM
jspENC,

Many thanks for the answer. I guess I knew the only good solution was the roof, but I am not a heights guy. DTV put a Wineguard saucer on my chimney 3 LNB mount and it works great for 9.x, but none of the UHF frequencies. It is amplified. Sometimes it even gets 8.1 and 19.x, but never 12.x or 7.x. It is all a mystery. What I guess I really need is HD locals on the 5 LNB dish when I get one installed, maybe next year. I was hoping for a solution to HD locals sooner than that, but I cannot get up on the chimney to do this. Know of any good OTA antenna installers in the New Bern area? I wasn't able to find any 2 years ago.
Larry