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jamieh1
10-05-07, 04:53 PM
Ota

Wral 5.1 5.2 Digital 53
Witn 7.1 7.2 Digital 32
Wnct 9.1 9.2 Digital 10
Wtvd 11.1 11.2 11.3 Digital 52
Wcti 12.1 12.3 Digital 48
Wydo 14.1 14.2 Digital 21
Wncn 17.1 17.2 17.3 Digital 55
Wunk 25.1 25.2 25.3 25.4 25.5 Digital 23
Wrdc 28.2 Digital 27
Wray 30.1 Digital 42
Wraz 50.1 50.2 50.3 Digital 49

Qam Washington

78-8 Wnct Hd
81-93 Music Choice Kidz Only
83-148 Enc Tv
85-74 Indemand Ppv Previews
86-3 Unc Hd
86-5 Unc Ed
86-6 Unc Nc
86-14 Unc Kd
86-22 Unc Tv
88-101 Wydo Hd
89-2 Witn 24/7 Wx
89-8 Witn Hd
89-18 Wcti Hd

jamieh1
10-06-07, 12:03 AM
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R15-500, R15-100
H20-100, H20-600

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Reset, once welcome screen arrives, press 0 2 4 6 8 on remote, new software screen will come up and download.

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HR20-700 if you have a beta version and have your HR20-700 hooked to a computer network, you can test out the New upcoming DIRECTV ON DEMAND.
Remote booking, added to R15-500 this week, and is on the HR20-700

jspENC
10-07-07, 05:33 PM
jspENC,

Many thanks for the answer. I guess I knew the only good solution was the roof, but I am not a heights guy. DTV put a Wineguard saucer on my chimney 3 LNB mount and it works great for 9.x, but none of the UHF frequencies. It is amplified. Sometimes it even gets 8.1 and 19.x, but never 12.x or 7.x. It is all a mystery. What I guess I really need is HD locals on the 5 LNB dish when I get one installed, maybe next year. I was hoping for a solution to HD locals sooner than that, but I cannot get up on the chimney to do this. Know of any good OTA antenna installers in the New Bern area? I wasn't able to find any 2 years ago.
Larry

Larry, It sounds like you are not getting ANY amplification from your antenna! Can you describe to me how exactly the Winegard is connected from the saucer to the TV? Hopefully something is not quite right along the cable run. If this is the case hopefully you will be able to fix it witout getting on the roof.
The reason why I think this is the case is because when I unplug my amp, I can still get 9 because it is on VHF, but none of the others because they are all UHF.

larry3706
10-08-07, 06:01 AM
Thanks for thinking about this, but I know the amp is connected because when the installer hooked it up a couple of years ago, even 9 was spotty. I showed him on the instruction sheet how the amp got power from the sat system and he hooked it up correctly then. Voila, 9 just fine. The antenna hooks up to my HR10-250 and has no separate power supply. I might mess around with it some more, but it was worse at first.
Larry

larry3706
10-08-07, 10:04 AM
jspENC,

Here are the details. The antenna and one leg of the sat connect to a Winegard powered offair/sat combiner DS 8000, with one output that goes to a diplexer that splits the signal into an output for sat and another output for the antenna. The sat output goes to one of the sat inputs on the HR10-250 and the antenna output goes to the antenna input on the HR10-250. About the only thing I have not tried is using the other sat leg to the combiner. Any chance that will help or is it a waste of time?
Larry

jspENC
10-08-07, 10:31 AM
Is this the antenna? http://www.winegard.com/offair/squareshooter.htm

I've never tried to run both a satellite signal and an antenna signal on the same coax. I've always heard it's best to use a separate line for line for each. I doubt that using the other sat leg would help.

larry3706
10-08-07, 11:01 AM
No, it is the saucer. I just finished some web searches and see that I could not combine and diplex with a 5 LNB when I am ready to move to that, anyhow. So, I just ordered a separate power supply for the antenna preamp and will hook the antenna up directly to the HR10-250, no combining and diplexing. The only way it gets power now is with that power coming from the receiver. So, I have to wait for the power supply. Maybe the direct antenna connection, without diplexing, will improve my situation.
Larry

jspENC
10-08-07, 04:32 PM
Anyone else notice that 12.1 is very dark ?

Electrico
10-10-07, 06:26 AM
Good morning:
D* added the following channels at 0600:
231-1 FOODHD:D
255 MGMHD>>ANOTHER MOVIE CHANNEL:cool:
276 NGCHD>>>>Finally we get National Geographic:)
355 CNBCHD
Enjoy!

larry3706
10-11-07, 04:49 AM
jspENC,

Yesterday I installed a direct power supply for the Winegard preamp, eliminating diplexing. The antenna is still connected to my Tivo unit. I still get 9.x,19.x, and 7.x very well. Now I can see 12.x occasionally. The signal strength indicated by the Tivo unit is in the 30's for 12.1(48) but in the 90's for the other channels. I sent an e-mail to engineering at 12 to see if they have any clues.
Larry

Ken12
10-11-07, 06:58 AM
Larry I see that you are using a pancake antenna it is a omni directional antenna. I would try a directional antenna. You are probably getting reflections with that antenna in the analog world you would see ghosting but in digital that can cause your receiver to have a lot of breakup or to not lock at all. On Brices Creek road I am using a amplified Square D antenna mounted at only 15' and I can recieve all the locals but fox. If you want call the station and ask for Ken and I'll try to help.

Ken

larry3706
10-11-07, 07:13 AM
Ken, I will call you this week. I did a search on Square D and came up empty. What brand and model antenna are you using? Does it also bring in VHF(9.x)? Believe it or not, I cannot get 9.x on any indoor amplified combo, but I can get 19.x and 7.x on an indoor. My saucer does a great job on 9.x but nothing gets me your station. Thanks
Larry

Ken12
10-11-07, 07:34 AM
I'm sorry its not square d but the square shooter mentioned above

Ken

larry3706
10-11-07, 07:55 AM
I could certainly mount one of those to the North side of my house if I knew it was going to work and I could avoid having to get up to the chimney. Do you know of antenna installers in New Bern?

Ken12
10-11-07, 08:05 AM
Mills Radio was doing some don't know if they still do. There is know way to be sure untill you try it

Ken

jspENC
10-11-07, 09:21 AM
jspENC,

Yesterday I installed a direct power supply for the Winegard preamp, eliminating diplexing. The antenna is still connected to my Tivo unit. I still get 9.x,19.x, and 7.x very well. Now I can see 12.x occasionally. The signal strength indicated by the Tivo unit is in the 30's for 12.1(48) but in the 90's for the other channels. I sent an e-mail to engineering at 12 to see if they have any clues.
Larry

Your getting there! I agree with Ken that a directional antenna would be much better, but I know since you can't get on the roof that your doing the best you can. Do you still get 8.1? They are operating stronger than any other station at 1 million watts. I hadn't thought of this until I just re-read Kens posts... but can you plug the antenna directly into an analog TV and see if it looks distorted, and tell us what the interference looks like? Try the UHF analogs especially, 19, 38 etc.

jamieh1
10-11-07, 04:58 PM
Zap2it.com has The Outdoor Channel 2 HD listed on the guide.

Maybe this is a new HD channel coming soon to Directv.

Directv just moved The Outdoor Channel down to the lower packages out of Sports Pack.

larry3706
10-12-07, 11:24 AM
I ordered a Winegard squareshooter and will do a mount on the side of my house about 15 ft above ground with a shot at anywhere from 280 to 330. There are trees but that is unavoidable in Trent Woods and no mast would be high enough to avoid them. Ken has had good results across the river so maybe this will work. I may get the stuff next week and will report when I get to it. Thanks
Larry

jspENC
10-13-07, 01:28 PM
I ordered a Winegard squareshooter and will do a mount on the side of my house about 15 ft above ground with a shot at anywhere from 280 to 330. There are trees but that is unavoidable in Trent Woods and no mast would be high enough to avoid them. Ken has had good results across the river so maybe this will work. I may get the stuff next week and will report when I get to it. Thanks
Larry

Lets hope that one works for you, but if it doesn't, (since you are willing to mount an antenna on your own) send it back and get a channel master 4221 or 4228 bow tie style. Fifteen feet up isn't bad and it's much better than something inside would be, plus it will pick up VHF too. Remember that in 2009 we will have three VHF channels available. Also I'm not sure what kind of unexpected luck you might have with FOX when you get set up, but if you cannot get them and they are important to you, consider ordering a second UHF bow tie pointed down east for them with a "joiner".

Map of tower sites...
http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/9/10/13/f_TOWERSITEsm_dce945d.gif

larry3706
10-13-07, 02:13 PM
Thanks for the advice. I'll try the square shooter first since Ken, from 12, has had good success with one a few miles from my house. It sure would be nice to have a retail place here that would simply say " we'll install an antenna for you and find one that does the job, just pay us when we are done"

Larry

jspENC
10-13-07, 07:50 PM
Eastern, that video of the weather guys singing 50 Cent is hilarious! If you haven't seen the clip you should check it out.:D

It looks like WITN and WNCT had the same comments to their viewer opinion lines this week. Both stations do cover a lot of real estate. I think they have to cover the more populated areas though before they can tackle the outskirts. JMO

jamieh1
10-15-07, 01:50 PM
Directv added more hd channels today, bringing the HD count to around 67.

7 HD PPV
ch 135, 136, 137, 138, 145, 146, 147

CH 229-1 HGTV HD
CH 248 FX HD
CH 296 CARTOON NETWORK HD
CH 359 FOX BUISNESS NETWORK HD
CH 607 SPEED CHANNEL HD
CH 612 FUEL TV HD

CH 636 FOX SPORTS DETROIT HD
CH 634 FOX SPORTS SOUTHWEST HD
CH 652 FOX SPORTS WEST HD
CH 653 FOX SPORTS PRIME TICKET HD

** SD CHANNEL ADDED
CH 359 FOX BUISNESS NETWORK standard definition

jspENC
10-15-07, 09:00 PM
I found some interesting comments on YouTube about WITN.

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=D3i4XEWoNRU&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DD3i4XEWoNRU

FHans
10-15-07, 11:10 PM
Any other Suddenlink customers having issues with the picture quality during the ALCS on Fox-HD?

I've been getting all kinds of artifacts and blocks on the screen only during the ALCS. All other HD channels seem fine, and even the commercials during the ALCS look fine.

Once the game comes back on though the picture quality seems to break up constantly.

larry3706
10-16-07, 05:54 AM
I installed the Squareshooter yesterday about 12-14 ft up on my roof and finally I can get all of the locals except Fox! I need to do some better aiming, still, because I had some pixelation on 7 last night. Amazing that that directional antenna is so much better than the omni saucer at least 10 feet higher on my chimney.

Ken12
10-16-07, 06:02 AM
I think your omni was picking up to many reflections and that realy kills digital.

Ken

larry3706
10-16-07, 06:09 AM
Seems like more art than science. I wish aiming were more scientific

RMartin631
10-16-07, 07:03 AM
Seems like more art than science. I wish aiming were more scientific

You'll have to take that up with Mother Nature. Different atmospheric conditions like fog, wind, rain, leaves on the trees etc can all affect antenna aiming. I have a pretty good setup but every once in a while I still have to tweak the aim.

I suggest ditching that Square Shooter and getting a real antenna. The Channel Master 4228 should do very nicely. Mount it up on that chimney where the omni was.

larry3706
10-16-07, 07:19 AM
I am sure that is optimal, but I won't climb any higher than my extension ladder takes me and that does not get me to the chimney. I am better in the crawl space than on the roof

Electrico
10-16-07, 07:20 AM
Directv added more hd channels today, bringing the HD count to around 67.

7 HD PPV
ch 135, 136, 137, 138, 145, 146, 147

CH 229-1 HGTV HD
CH 248 FX HD
CH 296 CARTOON NETWORK HD
CH 359 FOX BUISNESS NETWORK HD
CH 607 SPEED CHANNEL HD
CH 612 FUEL TV HD

CH 636 FOX SPORTS DETROIT HD
CH 634 FOX SPORTS SOUTHWEST HD
CH 652 FOX SPORTS WEST HD
CH 653 FOX SPORTS PRIME TICKET HD

** SD CHANNEL ADDED
CH 358 FOX BUISNESS NETWORK standard definition
359 is Fox [BUSINESS] SD channel-359 is also FBNDHD channel; channel 358 is NOT available. It is great to see channel 607SPDHD which is great news. It was rumored that channel 607SPDHD was NOT going to be available until 2008 which of course it is great news indeed.
Stay tuned!:D

Ken12
10-16-07, 07:30 AM
I have tried the 4228 at my house and it works pretty good but I could never get it aimed to pick up all the stations. I also tested several other antennas and the squareshotter preformed best for me by far I am splitting it and running it to 3 DVR's and never have any breakup. I still use the 4228 in some locations it is a very good antenna but just didn't work for me. I have the advantage of having a good spectrum analizer to help aim the antenna and was able to get a flat responce across all stations. I recomended it to larry being his location was verry close to mine.

Ken

Electrico
10-16-07, 07:41 AM
I found some interesting comments on YouTube about WITN.

http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=D3i4XEWoNRU&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DD3i4XEWoNRU
With ALL due respect you opened the door to harsh criticism regarding the youtube video. Gary Dean is articulate, handsome and delivered the news impressively. Mr. Dean to be the "next Brian Williams" reference was an awful joke then as it is now.

WITN six o clock evening news is filled with many annoying gestures and giggles...:rolleyes:

jspENC
10-16-07, 07:43 AM
Good work. As long as you get the channels, that's all that matters. You might want to think about that second antenna for FOX 8 since this worked out well.

Is the square shooter amplified? If so I don't think you can join two antennas together, you might need two lines coming in if you decide to get FOX.

jspENC
10-16-07, 07:45 AM
With ALL due respect you opened the door to harsh criticism regarding the youtube video. Gary Dean is articulate, handsome and delivered the news impressively. Mr. Dean to be the "next Brian Williams" reference was an awful joke then as it is now.

WITN six o clock evening news is filled with many annoying gestures and giggles...:rolleyes:

I thought some of the comments were good, and some were not, particularly bad the one you pointed out.

larry3706
10-16-07, 07:45 AM
Is it possible to hook up a second antenna to the coax even though it has DC voltage injected for the preamp? The preamp is inside the house

jspENC
10-16-07, 07:59 AM
Is it possible to hook up a second antenna to the coax even though it has DC voltage injected for the preamp? The preamp is inside the house

If you join the two antenna together before a mast mounted pre-amp yes, but isn't the Square shooters amp built-in to the antenna itself? If so no, you would need a separate coax line run inside to possibly an A/B switctch

larry3706
10-16-07, 08:02 AM
Right you are, the preamp is on the antenna, the power supply is in the house. So, I'd need a separate coax to the second antenna, it seems. Well, FOX is not a high priority except for an occasional NFL game. Is 8 ever going to boost power?

Ken12
10-16-07, 10:02 AM
Even if they increased power I do not think that would help you that much because they would be on the back side of your antenna. Your best bet would be for higher power from WYDO and that probably will not happen till the transition in 2009.

Ken

jspENC
10-16-07, 04:36 PM
Right you are, the preamp is on the antenna, the power supply is in the house. So, I'd need a separate coax to the second antenna, it seems. Well, FOX is not a high priority except for an occasional NFL game. Is 8 ever going to boost power?

Morehead CIty channel 8 is 1 million watts, the most power allowed by the FCC.

New Bern is well within WFXI DT coverage area

jamieh1
10-17-07, 07:34 AM
2 HD Regional Sports networks added today to Directv HD
Fox Sports Pittsburgh HD 628
Fox Sports Midwest HD 647-1

jamieh1
10-17-07, 08:05 AM
WITN 24/7 Weather Channel has updated the background music.

Electrico
10-17-07, 09:32 AM
2 HD Regional Sports networks added today to Directv HD
Fox Sports Pittsburgh HD 628
Fox Sports Midwest HD 647-1
Well thank you, Sir!

Electrico
10-17-07, 09:45 AM
WITN 24/7 Weather Channel has updated the background music.
I am listening to it as I type this. It is smooth jazz which is my favorite type of music. I have a good reason to compliment WITN, maybe! I turned the volume-up to listen to the music. Then it is interrupted and it blasts your ears. Jim Howard comes on to deliver the forecast and the volume goes back down. I raise the volume to listen to Jim, he finishes and then the volume is back-up. It is irritating as well as playing the same song over and over...
Smooth jazz is more enjoyable if the selections are increased...:o

OMH-Windsor
10-17-07, 04:01 PM
New on the AVS Forum and HD scene, so I may not be doing this right. I have a Channel Master 4228 antenna mounted on the chinmey of my home. Pre-Amp is a Radio Shack amplifier that I have had for several years. I have one LCD HDTV with built in receivers and one set-top box receiver in a separate room on a tube tv. In Central Bertie County, I can get Norfolk area stations fine, can get 2, 7, & 9 digital channels great. I CAN NOT get 12, 14, or NOTHING from Raleigh. Should I be able to get these in my area of not? Would a different amplifier help? Suggestions please. Thanks

VARTV
10-17-07, 04:07 PM
New on the AVS Forum and HD scene, so I may not be doing this right. I have a Channel Master 4228 antenna mounted on the chinmey of my home. Pre-Amp is a Radio Shack amplifier that I have had for several years. I have one LCD HDTV with built in receivers and one set-top box receiver in a separate room on a tube tv. In Central Bertie County, I can get Norfolk area stations fine, can get 2, 7, & 9 digital channels great. I CAN NOT get 12, 14, or NOTHING from Raleigh. Should I be able to get these in my area of not? Would a different amplifier help? Suggestions please. ThanksThe CM4228 is very directional. You might not be able to get all the channels all the time. Which market are you really interested in? Hampton Roads, eastern Carolina or Raleigh?

OMH-Windsor
10-17-07, 04:23 PM
All of them. I have a rotary to move the antenna depending on which area I want. I just can not get any reception from Raleigh or Fox 14 or WCTI 12. I have noticed others on the Forum who appear to be further from Raleigh than I am. They seem to be able to get the Raleigh channels. If I can only get one Raleigh channel, I would want WRAL.

jspENC
10-17-07, 04:30 PM
Windsor, unfortunately you are out of the FOX & Newschannel 12 viewing area. They are a much weaker signal than all the others. WITN and WNCT broadcast from a 2000' tower, while FOX broadcasts from a 500' tower. There's your difference. The Raleigh stations only reach till Roanoke Rapids area.

jamieh1
10-17-07, 05:28 PM
WITN is now running a news scroll at the bottom of there news cast.

This would a good addition to the WITN WEATHER CHANNEL.

jspENC
10-17-07, 06:41 PM
Personally I don't care for "crawls" on the news, but maybe it's just me. I agree the crawl on the WX channel needs something current.

jamieh1
10-17-07, 08:35 PM
I saw it on the 5:00 addition for a little while then It went away.

jspENC
10-17-07, 08:52 PM
That's not so bad then. I just hate that ever since the 9/11 attack, all these satellite news channels have had this black crawl going all the time at the bottom of the screen. I think there's too much going on with all this stuff in motion on the channels, especially Faux news.

Electrico
10-18-07, 09:22 AM
WITN is now running a news scroll at the bottom of there news cast.

This would a good addition to the WITN WEATHER CHANNEL.
Well Mr. jamieh1:
Since you are so well WITN informed I have a question for you, Sir.:
Do you know if WITN is going to broadcast the [ENTIRE USC @ NOTRE DAME] college football game on Saturday? Do you know if it possibly conflicts with an ECU game? Two years ago that was the case and only the final two minutes were aired.
Thnx

woodardhsd
10-18-07, 10:21 AM
Wow, what are odds that there is someone else from Washington, NC up here?

Anyways, I jsut purchased a Samsung 4053 LCD, so I am a no longer a HDTV virgin. I hooked up the new tv using the same old DirecTV 1LNB dish with my Terk-44 clip on antenna. I can get NBC, CBS, PBS (several) and FOX HD very well. I can't pick up ABC HD at all. I'm not sure why I don't get 12HD when FOX comes in decently. Fox is 30 miles farther away from me. I'm sure I need a new antenna, but I'm not sure which one to get. Radio Shack had a crazy looking one, but I can't find it on their website.

Any recommendations? I really want to be able to get 12 in HD for the Duke/Carolina games in Feb/March

jspENC
10-18-07, 11:10 AM
Woodard, you are on the EXTREME fringe of the backside of Channel 12's digital radiation pattern. I would definitely get either a Channel Master 4228 or an antenna's direct 91XG.

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/DT580260.gif

Which FOX do you get? 8 or 14?

cozmo1976
10-18-07, 11:13 AM
I'm in Washington too.
You may want to check out a Channel Master 4221 or 4228 antenna. Ace Hardware across from Food Lion ordered a 4221 for me for $26.
Now I am looking for a preamp. What do you guys suggest and where is the cheapest place to get one?

jspENC
10-18-07, 11:19 AM
I'm in Washington too.
You may want to check out a Channel Master 4221 or 4228 antenna. Ace Hardware across from Food Lion ordered a 4221 for me for $26.
Now I am looking for a preamp. What do you guys suggest and where is the cheapest place to get one?

I think the Channel Master pre-amps are the best. Whatever you get, make sure it is both VHF and UHF because WNCT will not come in with a UHF only pre-amp, and 12 will be VHF in early 2009.

The CM 7777 has the most gain, but if you aren't out in the boonies, you won't need so much amplification. If you split to more than one TV is when you start having to make up for line loss with pre-amps.

cozmo1976
10-18-07, 11:39 AM
I think the Channel Master pre-amps are the best. Whatever you get, make sure it is both VHF and UHF because WNCT will not come in with a UHF only pre-amp, and 12 will be VHF in early 2009.

The CM 7777 has the most gain, but if you aren't out in the boonies, you won't need so much amplification. If you split to more than one TV is when you start having to make up for line loss with pre-amps.


I will be splitting the signal to 3 directv hd receivers. I live just east of Washington. Where do you suggest looking for a 7777 for the best price?

woodardhsd
10-18-07, 12:01 PM
OK, I see that, but isnt WFXI broadcast from Morehead City, which is a good bit farther away. Do they broadcast a stronger signal?

Mike

jspENC
10-18-07, 12:18 PM
OK, I see that, but isnt WFXI broadcast from Morehead City, which is a good bit farther away. Do they broadcast a stronger signal?

Mike

WFXI broadcasts at 1 million watts and they aim their directional signal inland, which is probably why you get them. They are farther away, but with WCTI aiming their directional signal towards the south, you will need an antenna with more gain and more accurate aiming.

On the Pre-amp, do a google search. I don't know who might be cheaper. There are many on-line stores.

Here's a link... http://www.google.com/search?q=Channel+Master+7777+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

jamieh1
10-18-07, 02:05 PM
Well Mr. jamieh1:
Since you are so well WITN informed I have a question for you, Sir.:
Do you know if WITN is going to broadcast the [ENTIRE USC @ NOTRE DAME] college football game on Saturday? Do you know if it possibly conflicts with an ECU game? Two years ago that was the case and only the final two minutes were aired.
Thnx

Yes WITN(CH7) will broadcast the entire game(USC/ND). WITN is not broadcasting the game.(ECU/NCSU)
It will be on CSTV Directv (ch 610) @ 4:30p.(ECU/NCSU)

Heres a list of games that will be carried by WITN(CH7)
11/3 Memphis
11/10 Marshall
Most games will be on MASN(CH626) or CSTV.(CH610)

jamieh1
10-18-07, 02:11 PM
Wow, what are odds that there is someone else from Washington, NC up here?

Anyways, I jsut purchased a Samsung 4053 LCD, so I am a no longer a HDTV virgin. I hooked up the new tv using the same old DirecTV 1LNB dish with my Terk-44 clip on antenna. I can get NBC, CBS, PBS (several) and FOX HD very well. I can't pick up ABC HD at all. I'm not sure why I don't get 12HD when FOX comes in decently. Fox is 30 miles farther away from me. I'm sure I need a new antenna, but I'm not sure which one to get. Radio Shack had a crazy looking one, but I can't find it on their website.

Any recommendations? I really want to be able to get 12 in HD for the Duke/Carolina games in Feb/March


I live between Washington and Pinetown and I use a channel master 4228. I get WCTI with a signal around 60-65%.
Before I got the 4228 I used a channel master 3020 towards WNCT towers and Raliegh to get the RDU channels and this markets. I used a UHF radio shack antennathat was about $25. it was aimed a little towards the south.
Now Im using 2 4228s.
I get
WRAL, WITN, WNCT, WTVD, WCTI, WNCN, WLFL, WUNK, WRDC, WRAY, WRAZ

woodardhsd
10-18-07, 03:38 PM
I'm in Washington too.
You may want to check out a Channel Master 4221 or 4228 antenna. Ace Hardware across from Food Lion ordered a 4221 for me for $26.
Now I am looking for a preamp. What do you guys suggest and where is the cheapest place to get one?

Wow, those antennas are huge! They might be a problem hooking one of those up since I am renting a house right now.

The antenna I saw at Radio Shack was a Terk HDTV0. The guy said it worked pretty well.
http://i7.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/bc/59/dd90_1.JPG
Will that be any better than the TV42 I have right now?

It's cool to see this many local people on these boards. I thought I was the only one out here in the sticks with internet.;)

jspENC
10-18-07, 04:06 PM
I'd try the Radio Shack U-75R before I'd try that one. I have one put away that I used to use and picked up all the stations with it, even WNCT. Terks are not all their cracked up to be from what I've read.

Electrico
10-18-07, 11:49 PM
Wow, those antennas are huge! They might be a problem hooking one of those up since I am renting a house right now.

The antenna I saw at Radio Shack was a Terk HDTV0. The guy said it worked pretty well.
http://i7.ebayimg.com/06/i/000/bc/59/dd90_1.JPG
Will that be any better than the TV42 I have right now?

It's cool to see this many local people on these boards. I thought I was the only one out here in the sticks with internet.;)
Sometimes it pays to be humble:rolleyes:

Electrico
10-19-07, 11:37 AM
Yes WITN will broadcast the entire game. WITN is not broadcasting the game.
It will be on CSTV Directv ch 610 @ 4:30p.

Heres a list of games that will be carried by WITN
11/3 Memphis
11/10 Marshall
Most games will be on MASN or CSTV.
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jamieh1:
According to D* guide at 1530 EDT WITN 7-1 will have the USC at ND and at 1630 EDT CSTV CH. 610 will air tomorrow NC ST at ECU. Please clarify your thread.
Thnx

jamieh1
10-19-07, 01:36 PM
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jamieh1:
According to D* guide at 1530 EDT WITN 7-1 will have the USC at ND and at 1630 EDT CSTV CH. 610 will air tomorrow NC ST at ECU. Please clarify your thread.
Thnx

I answered your question.
Will WITN carry the entire USC ND game? I said yes. And I said No to WITN carring the ECU game, and then stated that CSTV will carry the ECU NCSU game.

woodardhsd
10-19-07, 01:54 PM
Which FOX do you get? 8 or 14?

Didn't see this at first. I'm getting FOX on channel 8. No sign of 14 at all.

Electrico
10-19-07, 09:49 PM
I answered your question.
Will WITN carry the entire USC ND game? I said yes. And I said No to WITN carring the ECU game, and then stated that CSTV will carry the ECU NCSU game.

SORRY IF YOU MISUNDERSTOOD.
I did NOT misunderstand anything, your answer is/was mixed with confusing elements. Your ego prevents you from admitting being wrong which I expected.
READ YOUR OWN GARBAGE...>YOU'RE WRONG...

jamieh1
10-20-07, 12:19 AM
No ego here, just trying to pass along helpful info. Sorry you joined us here and dont always agree with the post. I think it all stems back to a post last week when I posted release of some HD channels that you post as well. Along with the un called for private message.
Sorry if you dont like my post. Started this thread several years ago for all the ENC viewers to chat, I think its been very helpful. Its not our purpose to go after each other, but to help each other.

jspENC
10-20-07, 10:33 AM
I did NOT misunderstand anything, your answer is/was mixed with confusing elements. Your ego prevents you from admitting being wrong which I expected.
READ YOUR OWN GARBAGE...>YOU'RE WRONG...

Electrico, that post was crap. We all know you don't particularly care for WITN, but attacking a member who answered your question the best they could with the knowledge he has was inappropriate.

Electrico
10-20-07, 11:14 AM
Electrico, that post was crap. We all know you don't particularly care for WITN, but attacking a member who answered your question the best they could with the knowledge he has was inappropriate.
jsp:
You're right I don't care for WITN with a giggly/goo-goo eyes member delivering the news. Another member who referred to VT as a power house. VT has never won a single national championship unless that member tried to say that ECU lost to an alleged "power house". That member is/was desperate. Furthermore to the best of my knowledge that "power house" reference was never retracted. Those are facts.
Mr. jsp/"lawyer":
I did NOT attack Mr. jamieh1. I stated facts and I hope you have a good reading level. BTW did you bother to check the TV guide listings before your alleged " lawyering"? Think NOT! Research first and then debate fully armed, Mister.
Thank you

jamieh1
10-20-07, 05:36 PM
Electrico just chill out, I dont know whats got you wanting to attack and pick members post apart. Theres no need in it, no one has attacked you or made remarks about your post. 2 weeks ago you PM me saying it was BULLSH*t that I posted MHD being added to Directv, I didnt see you post, like I replied whats the big deal, its just a post.
Like I said before everyone has there own likes and dislikes, there favorite tv stations, sports teams. I might not like things you like but Im not going to attack you over it.
This thread is about TV, so lets stick to that and all get along.
As far as Im concerned lets drop all of this and move on.

bamajeep
10-20-07, 06:13 PM
anyone know why USC-ND isn't in HD?
and seems like the picture blacks out for a second every few minutes...

jspENC
10-20-07, 06:45 PM
WITN dropped the ball. WECT 6.1 Wilmington is in HD, but WITN is not.

Electrico
10-21-07, 06:37 AM
anyone know why USC-ND isn't in HD?
and seems like the picture blacks out for a second every few minutes...
I don't know. I also had to endure that blackout garbage. With WITN anything is possible:rolleyes: Are you a Trojan fan? When that happened I went to the OTA CH. 7-1. Anyway according to D* guide you have nine more game showings with CH's 74, 625 and 640 on HD., SD on CH.'s 626, 656 and 657:
Today 0900 HD CH. 74
>>>>1000 >>657
10/22>1430>625 HD?
10/23>1200, 2000>626
10/23>2300>>656
10/24>2100>>640 HD?
10/25>1500>>640 HD?
I always post the 24(my norm>NON negotiable!:() hour clock which avoids confusion(s):confused:. 625 and 640 also air SD and on HD on their duplicates.
The final score USC 38 ND ZERO:D
How about those Trojans with Mark Sánchez at QB?
Enjoy!

Electrico
10-21-07, 06:41 AM
WITN dropped the ball. WECT 6.1 Wilmington is in HD, but WITN is not.
I've heard that song before::eek:
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck:rolleyes:

blueline
10-21-07, 06:43 PM
WYDO cant even keep the digital feed up for the Cowboys game. That affiliate sucks so bad.

bamajeep
10-21-07, 07:53 PM
I can't pick up 8.1 anymore and 14.1 just has the test signal (although 14.2 works). Anyone else having this problem?

Electrico
10-22-07, 08:00 AM
Electrico just chill out, I dont know whats got you wanting to attack and pick members post apart. Theres no need in it, no one has attacked you or made remarks about your post. 2 weeks ago you PM me saying it was BULLSH*t that I posted MHD being added to Directv, I didnt see you post, like I replied whats the big deal, its just a post.
Like I said before everyone has there own likes and dislikes, there favorite tv stations, sports teams. I might not like things you like but Im not going to attack you over it.
This thread is about TV, so lets stick to that and all get along.
As far as Im concerned lets drop all of this and move on.
Mr. jamieh1:
I need to respond to your thread, Sir, WHY? If I don't respond I am the villain and you remain the glorified moderator, rep whatever with ALL due respect. Forums like this one are politically and popularity oriented. That means that certain few do not do or say anything wrong. We are supposedly adults and educated enough. Having stated that it means we know how to read and intelligent enough to interpret what we read.
Wow, reading is something we all take for granted(myself included) it is such a remarkable ability that we have as top members of the animal kingdom. We have the largest brain. Having the largest brain enables us to reason or simply to distinguish between right or wrong.
I am NOT politically oriented, never have and I never will be. I find it disgusting and repulsive. I say what is on MY mind. I intend to do that and let chips fall. If they land on anybody I expect intelligent adults to respect that as I respect when anybody does the same. That is a fair statement without ANY boundaries or prejudices.
This is a FREE country. Therefore it is my right as much as it is anybody's on this forum to "pick apart" any thread as long as the language HAS a decent tone. If anybody does that to me I am intelligent and responsible enough to handle IT. It is expected of me NOT to bellyache about it. It is also my responsibility NOT to accept anybody lawyering for me.
I have another point to address very seriously. If anybody sends me a Private Message I will seriously honor the PRIVACY of that message to the fullest. The fullest means I have to respect and HONOR the integrity of that message.
Thank you

woodardhsd
10-22-07, 08:32 AM
I'd try the Radio Shack U-75R before I'd try that one. I have one put away that I used to use and picked up all the stations with it, even WNCT. Terks are not all their cracked up to be from what I've read.

So I went and bought the U-75R this weekend. Either I have no idea what I'm doing, I live too far out in the middle of nowhere, or the antenna's crap, because it hardly helped at all. I hooked it up through my existing Terk TV42 (through the inputs that the satellite ususally come through). I was able to pick up a bunch more channels, but only at 1 or 2 bars signal strength. I got WCTI HD for a split second, and after adjusting it a little more, never got it again. I got WRAL, ABC-11, FOX-14, some ION channel and 10 more UNC-TV (as if 12 wasn't enough) but low signal strength.

I tried it in the attic, in the back yard, in series with my Terk, by itself, everything I sould think of. I finally put it away and put my Terk back on the satellite dish, and watched the Red Sox game. Stupic FOX kept cutting out near the end of the game, though.

Any tips for me to try before I take the antenna back to the shack?

jspENC
10-22-07, 09:13 AM
Were these channels coming in during the day or at night? If it was daytime, that's really good.
Maybe Jamie can tell you whether that's good or bad, since he lives really close by, but it sounds decent to me.

woodardhsd
10-22-07, 09:49 AM
I was able to pick up WCTI in HD early in the morning, but not later in the evening. The other channels came through last night, between 6-8 pm.

2Scoops
10-22-07, 09:59 AM
Why wasn't the Steelers/Bronco's game in HD last night on WITN??

cozmo1976
10-22-07, 10:18 AM
I have a Channel Master 4221 and I live between Washington and Pinetown. I am picking up all of the locals - 7.1, 7.2, 9.1, 9.2, 12.1, 12.2, 14.1, 14.2, Etc.... and way too many PBS stations. I have the antenna mounted in my attic, connected directly to my directv receiver. It took a few minutes to get it aimed properly, but once I got it set up for the highest signal level for channel 14.1, it has worked perfectly.
Ace hardware can order one for you for less than $30 with tax.

jspENC
10-22-07, 10:39 AM
I agree the bow-ties are the best. The 4221 has a wider beam width, so it can grab signals from a spread out area, while the 4228 has a very narrow beam width meant to be aimed directly at the tower of interest.

woodardhsd
10-22-07, 10:50 AM
Do you think it will work that much better than the U-75R I have right now? I mounted it in my attic, used the correct transformer, and ran high quality coax directly to the input on my TV, and got pretty much nothing. I had better results outside , 3 feet off the ground. I'd hate to buy another antenna, deal with installing it, and possibly having to return it if it didn't work well.

The guys at that Ace Hardware location are very nice, but I doubt they'd take back a special ordered antenna, especially after I'd already hooked it up..


Mike

woodardhsd
10-22-07, 11:05 AM
Maybe I'm just too far away. I did a quick search on antenna web for a location between Washington & Pinetown (i picked Slatestone Rd) and this is what came up.

* yellow - vhf WNCT-DT 9.1 CBS GREENVILLE NC 248° 27.2 10
* yellow - uhf WITN-DT 7.1 NBC WASHINGTON NC 248° 27.2 32
* yellow - uhf WCTI-DT 12.1 ABC NEW BERN NC 222° 37.8 48
* green - uhf WYDO-DT 14.1 FOX GREENVILLE NC 258° 23.4 21
* red - uhf WEPX-DT 38 MNT GREENVILLE NC TBD 255° 27.8 38
* red - uhf WUNM-DT 19.1 PBS JACKSONVILLE NC 222° 37.8 18
* red - uhf WUND-DT 2.1 PBS EDENTON NC 66° 42.3 20
* violet - uhf WUNK-DT 25.1 PBS GREENVILLE NC 278° 34.9 23

When I tried my location, only these showed up.

* yellow - uhf WITN-DT 7.1 NBC WASHINGTON NC 260° 32.9 32
* yellow - uhf WUND-DT 2.1 PBS EDENTON NC 56° 38.0 20
* red - vhf WNCT-DT 9.1 CBS GREENVILLE NC 260° 32.9 10
* blue - uhf WEPX-DT 38 MNT GREENVILLE NC TBD 265° 34.1 38
* violet - uhf WYDO-DT 14.1 FOX GREENVILLE NC 269° 30.1 21

jspENC
10-22-07, 12:56 PM
For starters, I think your going to have to get up higher than 3 feet. The FCC coverage zone maps are plotted for antennas with no gain at 30 feet. I would get up to at least 15 or 20 feet (roof level) With a directional antenna, it has to be pointed at the transmitter. The U-75R is a medium gain Directional antenna. The TV 42 is sporadic. It cannot be aimed, and is susceptible to multi--path interference. You may need a rotor, a pre-amplifier (CM 7777 has separate UHF/VHF inputs)or two antenna's joined together with a channel master joiner to get what you want. Again, depends on how long the cable run is,and how many splits to other TV's you make.
Remember that in 2009, we will have three VHF's (four if you count WTVD-11) 8, 10, and 12, so you might consider adding a high band antenna to your set-up at that time.
The UHF goes on top of the mast, and a high band can be mounted about 3.5 to four feet below it. Consider the UHF/VHF joiner for these if you don't want the pre-amp.

http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/9/10/13/f_TOWERSITEsm_dce945d.gif

woodardhsd
10-22-07, 01:04 PM
For starters, I think your going to have to get up higher than 3 feet. The FCC coverage zone maps are plotted for antennas with no gain at 30 feet. I would get up to at least 15 or 20 feet (roof level) With a directional antenna, it has to be pointed at the transmitter. The U-75R is a medium gain Directional antenna. The TV 42 is sporadic. It cannot be aimed, and is susceptible to multi--path interference.

Which is why I'm confused as to why it (U75R) worked better 3 feet from the ground, than 15 feet in the attic.

Electrico
10-22-07, 01:28 PM
Which is why I'm confused as to why it (U75R) worked better 3 feet from the ground, than 15 feet in the attic.
My humble $0.02:
Exposure VS confinement! If you don't have my problem with pine and oak trees then it makes more sense and exposure wins by a KO!

jamieh1
10-22-07, 02:00 PM
I usually have some problems with 12.1 and 12.3 early in the morning with break ups. Rest of the day no issues.

jspENC
10-22-07, 02:18 PM
My humble $0.02:
Exposure VS confinement! If you don't have my problem with pine and oak trees then it makes more sense and exposure wins by a KO!

Exactly right. In the attic there is a lot of possibility for signal reduction. If you get good reception inside, consider yourself one of the rarities.

jamieh1
10-22-07, 04:04 PM
Got word from WITN that they are working on updating the L BAR on WITN 24/7. And hopefully will update the bottom ticker as well.
Music has been updated and the 5 day so far.

jspENC
10-22-07, 05:00 PM
WITN still doesn't do a 7 day forecast.

Electrico
10-22-07, 08:24 PM
WITN still doesn't do a 7 day forecast.
I may get excited about WITN when they install the 5.1 Dolby Digital sound. That will be the only way I'll give WITN a compliment of any kind...

jspENC
10-22-07, 08:34 PM
The station that has the best sound with DD 5.1 that I get is WWAY ABC 3.1 out of Wilmington. The bass shakes the whole room!

Next I would say CBS 9.1 then PBS then FOX.

Electrico
10-22-07, 08:35 PM
I usually have some problems with 12.1 and 12.3 early in the morning with break ups. Rest of the day no issues.
Are those morning break-ups during cloudy, hazy or rainy days?

woodardhsd
10-23-07, 10:26 AM
So I went to the Ace Hardware to see about ordering a Channel Master antenna and he could only find 1 in their computer system, some VHF/UHF/FM antenna that was about 9 feet long. Nevermind.

I think I'll try one last time with the U75-R. I rigged up a mounting bracket to get it about 15 feet up a utility pole in my backyard. That's about as high as I can possibly get, probably higher than my roof even. Since my Terk clip on antenna works so well on 7, 8, and 9, I'll run it through the inputs (the ones the satelite signal usually comes through) and see if I can get anything.

Should I try a pre-amp for this test, and if so, where should I put it? Before I tie into the Terk antenna, or inside the house right before the TV? Would I be better off to run the UHF antenna straight to the TV?

By now, I'm sure it's painfully obvious that I have no clue what I'm doing, so any help is appreciated. Maybe if I can get a decent signal I might be motivated enough to buy a 4221.

woodardhsd
10-23-07, 10:46 AM
Here's a small sketch of my setup in case my explanation didn't make sense.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e94/woodardhsd/setup-1.jpg

jspENC
10-23-07, 12:00 PM
Here is my questions, I'm not sure about some of the coax runs...

http://img40.picoodle.com/img/img40/6/10/23/f_setupm_61144e7.jpg

Electrico
10-23-07, 01:02 PM
wood:
If I were you I buy four diplexers. Check and study this link:
How To Diplex Your OTA
http://dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=62299&highlight=diplexer
Secondly I use the best antenna with the HDTV connected to the ant. input of your sat. recvr.
Good luck

woodardhsd
10-23-07, 01:21 PM
jspENC-

I haven't got the antenna set up yet, but my goal in this is to be able to get WCTI-HD. I will aim the antenna in that direction. FOX-14 would be nice as well.

Right now, I have the two cables from the LNB on my sat dish hooked to the inputs on the TV42 (just like the directions say). I guess this combines the OTA signal and the satellite signals together. There are 2 RG6 cables that run to the house.

I think it's just a grounding block that is mounted on the outside wall of the house. It has 2 inputs and 2 outputs with a ground wire connected to under the house. Then the cables are routed under the house, one to the bedroom with the 19" tv, and to the living room with the 40" samsung. In the living room, the cable is run to a diplexer (came with the TV42), and split to the receiver, and one to the TV.

Currently I get WITN-HD at 80-90%, WNCT-HD at 90%, and WFXI-HD at 50-60%, and a bunch of PBS's that I couldn't care less about. I can get WCTI, but not digital.

Electrico-

Thanks for the link. I will read up on that. I don't have an HD receiver currently. I hope that's not a problem.

Electrico
10-23-07, 02:23 PM
Wood:
You can split your OTA to the diplexer ant. input. The diplexer sat input receives the RG6 coax from the dish MSW. Do you have a HDTV? The coax from the 1st. diplexer to the 2nd. diplexer must be run straight without any branching or splitting. The second diplexer must have RG6 coax jumpers that in turn connect to the receiver's inputs>ant to ant, sat to sat. If you don't understand PM me.
Take care

cozmo1976
10-23-07, 03:12 PM
[QUOTE=woodardhsd;11988298]So I went to the Ace Hardware to see about ordering a Channel Master antenna and he could only find 1 in their computer system, some VHF/UHF/FM antenna that was about 9 feet long. Nevermind.

I'm sorry you had trouble. When I went there I spoke with the manager and later had his son place the order for me. I think it is listed under the company PCT or something like that (PCT International makes them).

I changed my secondary market last night on my Directv receiver and I am picking up stations out of Raleigh also - and I still don't have a preamp hooked up.

jspENC
10-23-07, 03:18 PM
Is running a dedicated line for OTA into the house not an option? The more diplexers and splices you make, the more signal your losing.

woodardhsd
10-23-07, 03:31 PM
cozmo - no problem. It shouldn't be too hard to find one somewhere else.

jspENC - It's a rental house so I don't want to spend too much money and time on it, especially since I may be moving in the next 6 months or so.

I added more detail to my original sketch to show how I'm splitting the signal to the receiver and the TV. I was originally running the OTA cable through the receiver, but it was clearer went straight to the TV.

woodardhsd
10-23-07, 03:37 PM
I changed my secondary market last night on my Directv receiver and I am picking up stations out of Raleigh also - and I still don't have a preamp hooked up.

I'm assuming this has to do with the HD receiver. I didn't see anything about this in my owners manual (D10). I signed up for the HD programming, but the installer couldn't get a clear line of sight, so I am stuck with SD programming and an old receiver.

jspENC
10-23-07, 03:52 PM
cozmo - no problem. It shouldn't be too hard to find one somewhere else.

jspENC - It's a rental house so I don't want to spend too much money and time on it, especially since I may be moving in the next 6 months or so.

I added more detail to my original sketch to show how I'm splitting the signal to the receiver and the TV. I was originally running the OTA cable through the receiver, but it was clearer went straight to the TV.

OK. I don't think there is any good way to add the second antenna to the TERK-42 without creating more issues... The more splices, the more likely you are to run into problems. You might be better off just running a completely different line into the home from the U-75R to an AB switch. (A position would be the TERK antenna channels, B would be WCTI)

I'm confused with all this too, but I think that's what I would do in your situation!

jamieh1
10-23-07, 04:20 PM
Are those morning break-ups during cloudy, hazy or rainy days?

Anytype of weather, usually around 8am-9am range.

Electrico
10-24-07, 08:01 AM
OK. I don't think there is any good way to add the second antenna to the TERK-42 without creating more issues... The more splices, the more likely you are to run into problems. You might be better off just running a completely different line into the home from the U-75R to an AB switch. (A position would be the TERK antenna channels, B would be WCTI)

I'm confused with all this too, but I think that's what I would do in your situation!
I was reading on dbstalk.com about this similar situation and these links were suggested:
http://www.warrenelectronics.com/antennas/Jointennas.htm

http://hdtvmagazine.com/articles/2006/03/ota_hd_demystif.php
Good luck!

jspENC
10-28-07, 06:02 PM
I thought I'd share this DB--4 style antenna I finally got around to finishing. I tried it out and get signals on WWAY,WITN,WCTI,FOX 26.1the two PBS's and Mynetwork inside about 5 feet off the floor. I can't wait to get it up on the mast to see how it compares to the Radio Shack U-75R and the CM 4221.

http://img39.picoodle.com/img/img39/6/10/28/f_ANTENNAm_fc273af.jpg

RMartin631
10-28-07, 06:44 PM
Nice job. One question though... Isn't your wife going to be ticked about you swipeing her oven racks? :D

jspENC
10-28-07, 07:10 PM
LOL, I went out and bought these for two bucks at Big Lots!

jamieh1
10-29-07, 12:19 AM
Tonight on FoxSportsNet The Best Dam Sports Show Period has a special called Top 50 fans sports bloopers.

They had had a older clip of WNCTs Brian Bailey at ECU talking on camera and a cannon fires beside him scaring him, pretty funny.

Nice to see some local tv folks on a national broadcast.

Clip was probally about 10 yrs old.

EasternNC pass along to Brian if he didnt know he was on a bloopers show.

jamieh1
10-29-07, 08:06 PM
NBATV HD launched today on Directv.

jspENC
10-30-07, 07:24 PM
Got my antenna attached to a five foot mast and hooked it up to a TV in my shed. I raised the antenna to the height of the roof and I took a look at the analogs and couldn't believe how clear 6,7.9 and 12 were!(especially 9 and 12) My antenna actually works on VHF! The UHF's were really good too. I may have to exchange this for the 4221 and see if I can pull in WECT with it for longer periods. I wish I had more parts and I would have made an 8 bay. I still think the continuous screen of the 4221 is probably going to be better...

My antenna seems really directional.

jamieh1
10-30-07, 07:43 PM
FXHD offically launched today on Directv, The FXHD channel has been up on Directv for a couple of weeks but was not showing HD shows. It is now showing full screen HD. Looks great.

jamieh1
10-31-07, 12:15 PM
For those of you with Directv and Directv HD,
NHL Network and NHL Network HD offically launched today on Ch 215.

To get all the new HD channels from Directv you must have a H20, HR20, or HR21 reciever and a 5 LNB dish.

woodardhsd
10-31-07, 01:03 PM
Sounds like good you've got good results for a home built antenna. Are there plans for something that circulating around somewhere?


Mike

jspENC
11-01-07, 09:00 AM
Sounds like good you've got good results for a home built antenna. Are there plans for something that circulating around somewhere?


Mike
Here is the site that I got the idea from. Skim around some, and go toward the last pages for even more ideas...

http://www.lumenlab.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9613

agregjones
11-03-07, 09:04 AM
I am noticing WITN breaking up more lately. I am only seven miles from the tower. Is anyone else experiencing these issues lately?

On a few occasions over the last week, the signal has broken up and they switched back to the SD feed for a few minutes. Later they switched back to the HD feed. This leads me to believe the problems were at the station or network level.

Electrico
11-03-07, 09:24 AM
I also noticed intermittent break-up as well last evening while watching the NBC evening news. I was reading on dbstalk.com and came across this great article concerning the SWM's(Single Wire Multiswitch)-both SWM5 and SWM8 installation:
http://www.sonoradesign.com/slide_display.php?presentationId=27&target=homeowners

Ken H
11-03-07, 09:28 AM
Unnecessary posts deleted. Keep on topic or more severe action will be taken.

blueline
11-03-07, 03:51 PM
WITN and WCTI are unwatchable OTA or on Suddenlink this afternoon. Are they on the same tower?

jamieh1
11-03-07, 08:19 PM
Unnecessary posts deleted. Keep on topic or more severe action will be taken.

Thank you!!!

brewtus00
11-04-07, 01:30 PM
anyone heard any new info on any new HD channels coming to suddenlink? you would think with Directv adding all these new HD stations the cable companies would at least attempt to keep up with them

agregjones
11-04-07, 04:47 PM
The problem with cable companies is limited bandwidth. Their biggest opportunity for adding more high-bandwidth channels is reducing the number of analog channels. If cable companies want to add these channels they will eventually have to force more customers to use set-top boxes that decode digital channels.

This is perceived by many to be less popular with some subscribers. Some cable companies have taken this route and no longer charge for SD digital set-top boxes.

superfreak711
11-04-07, 06:48 PM
hey. i recently purchased an hdtv with built in tuner. i also bought an antenna, philips 46db amp. the only hd chnnels i get is NBC and NBC weather. i did messed around with the antenna and still no luck. please, somebody let me know what I can do to receive other hd channels here in greenville...

Electrico
11-04-07, 07:51 PM
hey. i recently purchased an hdtv with built in tuner. i also bought an antenna, philips 46db amp. the only hd chnnels i get is NBC and NBC weather. i did messed around with the antenna and still no luck. please, somebody let me know what I can do to receive other hd channels here in greenville...
If you're referring to 7-2 as the NBC weather channel it is NOT HD. Have you set the OTA antenna according to the TV owner's manual instructions? Is the antenna connected properly with a 300/75 ohm matching transformer(balun)? How close is your TV or the antenna to a window? That is about ALL I can tell you until we know more.

superfreak711
11-04-07, 09:05 PM
If you're referring to 7-2 as the NBC weather channel it is NOT HD. Have you set the OTA antenna according to the TV owner's manual instructions? Is the antenna connected properly with a 300/75 ohm matching transformer(balun)? How close is your TV or the antenna to a window? That is about ALL I can tell you until we know more.
the antenna is connected properly according to the instructions. the antenna is directly across the window, approximately 10 feet away. i feel like everything is right. i just hope there's something you could tell me that i might be doing wrong. thanks

jspENC
11-04-07, 10:05 PM
Probably overload on WNCT, could be a weak signal problem for WCTI. Can you look at analog and see how that comes in?

Electrico
11-04-07, 10:34 PM
the antenna is connected properly according to the instructions. the antenna is directly across the window, approximately 10 feet away. i feel like everything is right. i just hope there's something you could tell me that i might be doing wrong. thanks
Did you go through the menu? On my TV to set-up the OTA I have to go through the menu, then the channel function. Under the channel is the antenna set-up in which you select air, cable, etc. Did you do any of that?

superfreak711
11-04-07, 11:45 PM
Did you go through the menu? On my TV to set-up the OTA I have to go through the menu, then the channel function. Under the channel is the antenna set-up in which you select air, cable, etc. Did you do any of that?
what do u mean look at analog? dont really understand... sorry.

under settings, i do have it under "antenna"

Electrico
11-05-07, 07:33 AM
what do u mean look at analog? dont really understand... sorry.

under settings, i do have it under "antenna"
I did [NOT] say anything about analog.

superfreak711
11-05-07, 09:00 AM
I did [NOT] say anything about analog.
can you explain then? sorry.

jspENC
11-05-07, 09:17 AM
Analog is the old signal... NTSC not ATSC... Do you have an old TV you can look at without a digital tuner to see if there is ghosting?

woodardhsd
11-05-07, 10:19 AM
hey. i recently purchased an hdtv with built in tuner. i also bought an antenna, philips 46db amp. the only hd chnnels i get is NBC and NBC weather. i did messed around with the antenna and still no luck. please, somebody let me know what I can do to receive other hd channels here in greenville...

You didn't by chance get that amplifier from Wal-Mart did you? I picked up one that they had and it actually made my signal worse. I'm not sure why, but it did. It has since been returned.

superfreak711
11-05-07, 10:38 AM
You didn't by chance get that amplifier from Wal-Mart did you? I picked up one that they had and it actually made my signal worse. I'm not sure why, but it did. It has since been returned.
i have a new 26" rca lcd. built in hd tuner.

i picked up the philips antenna at kmart. any suggestions, maybe a better antenna? this was 46db amplification. any suggestions would be great.

brownover
11-05-07, 11:13 AM
I have a minor problem that I am hoping someone has a solution. My analog reception channels 7-13 have sparkles in 2 bands across the screen. Whenever we have rain, they go away. My mast is grounded to a 4 ft copper ground rod and my coaxial cable is also grounded to a 4 ft copper ground rod. Since we have had such a dry year, the sparkles don't go away very often. The analog picture is great otherwise and my digital picture is also. I know that analog goes away in Feb 09, but digital signals don't like sparkles either. Is it just a severe dry weather problem because of lack of moisture in the ground? Antenna is Channelmaster 4228.

woodardhsd
11-05-07, 11:40 AM
i picked up the philips antenna at kmart. any suggestions, maybe a better antenna? this was 46db amplification. any suggestions would be great.

So the antenna has a built in amplifier? I thought you meant a seperate amplifier, which is what I bought and returned. You might want to post the model of your antenna. It might help with getting a recommendation.

superfreak711
11-05-07, 11:48 AM
So the antenna has a built in amplifier? I thought you meant a seperate amplifier, which is what I bought and returned. You might want to post the model of your antenna. It might help with getting a recommendation.
model of the antenna is philips mant410

jspENC
11-05-07, 12:09 PM
I have a minor problem that I am hoping someone has a solution. My analog reception channels 7-13 have sparkles in 2 bands across the screen. Whenever we have rain, they go away. My mast is grounded to a 4 ft copper ground rod and my coaxial cable is also grounded to a 4 ft copper ground rod. Since we have had such a dry year, the sparkles don't go away very often. The analog picture is great otherwise and my digital picture is also. I know that analog goes away in Feb 09, but digital signals don't like sparkles either. Is it just a severe dry weather problem because of lack of moisture in the ground? Antenna is Channelmaster 4228.

I'm thinking it's probably some appliance in your home that is causing the sparkles. When my neighbors run their lawnmowers, sometimes I get pixelation on DT and when I go to analog I see sparkling. It's usually some type of motor that causes it I think.

superfreak711
11-05-07, 12:24 PM
i have a philips mant410

woodardhsd
11-05-07, 01:17 PM
i have a philips mant410

You'll probably want to try something bigger, and mount it outside. Most here like the Channel Master 4221 or the Antennas Direct DB4. Or you could make a copy of either one of those. If you scroll to the top of the previous page, jspENC posted a photo of a his DB4 copy

brownover
11-05-07, 01:55 PM
I'm thinking it's probably some appliance in your home that is causing the sparkles. When my neighbors run their lawnmowers, sometimes I get pixelation on DT and when I go to analog I see sparkling. It's usually some type of motor that causes it I think.

Thanks jsp. I will do some troubleshooting.

Ken12
11-06-07, 07:52 AM
A couple of things that I have seen that causes sparkles like you described are water heaters and electric motors like your blower and compressor for air conditioning these are easy to prove out by turning off the circuit breaker. Another thing that I have seen cause this problem is the electric companys power transformer if it has a bad ground it will be worse when it is dry. If you exaust everything else give your electric company a call and you might get them to come out and look at it. There are alot of things that could cause your problem even the circuit breakers in your electrical panel. Good luck tracking it down.

Ken

Ken12
11-06-07, 07:57 AM
Superfreak711

I think you will have to go with a outside antenna instead of a set top antenna to get reliable reception. From greenville you will have a hard time picking WCTI up reliably with a indoor antenna. The antennas recomended above are good ones to try.

Ken

jspENC
11-06-07, 09:29 AM
Ken12,
Over in the HDTV reception hardware category, someone down in Georgia has a low band digital, and the power line equipment was causing his digital reception on channel 4 I believe it was to be totally pixelated all the time. He managed to get the company to fix the problem after threatening to contact the FCC. Someone recommended he tune to a low frequency AM radio station and listen for loud buzzing while driving around the neighborhood. He was able to locate the power pole with the leak easily that way.
On cable down here, channel 3 analog (cable 11) and channel 6 analog have sparkles on them almost all the time. I figured it was always a damaged antenna, but now I bet it's the power companies interference. One of their sub stations is just across the road from the Cable TV antenna tower too.

brownover
11-06-07, 10:30 AM
A couple of things that I have seen that causes sparkles like you described are water heaters and electric motors like your blower and compressor for air conditioning these are easy to prove out by turning off the circuit breaker. Another thing that I have seen cause this problem is the electric companys power transformer if it has a bad ground it will be worse when it is dry. If you exaust everything else give your electric company a call and you might get them to come out and look at it. There are alot of things that could cause your problem even the circuit breakers in your electrical panel. Good luck tracking it down.

KenThanks Ken. Sparkles are gone this am because we had some rain. I am sure it is not my a/c, but it could be my water heater. When they come back, i will trip the breaker and see if they go away. I too, had in mind that it could be a transformer, I am as you suggested saving that for last. Thanks for your input. I will post if I find the problem

brownover
11-08-07, 09:41 AM
Narrowed my sparkle problem down to a transformer problem. Just happen to know a power company lineman, talked to him and he agreed that was probably the problem. They hired a contractor to replace transformers about 6 months ago and he said they had several problems with their installs. He is coming by next week to check it out. I will let you guys know.

jspENC
11-08-07, 12:11 PM
I'm glad they are going to look into it. It's a good thing we have no low band digitals or you would have terrible reception until they fixed it.

jspENC
11-10-07, 06:33 PM
Reading over the WFXI stuff on the FCC site, WYDO will not go full power until just before the analog cutoff at which point they will flash cut to digital. According to what I read, they plan to build a new tower also. The sale of the station has also taken place.

RickD_99
11-11-07, 01:43 PM
Hi guys first time poster to this forum. I live in Hubert NC which is a small community between Camp Lejeune and Swansboro, just off highway NC24.

I currently have an Antennas Direct DB4 antenna (mounted outside near the roofline of my rented house) but at my location I am only able to receive WITN-DT (NBC) and WCTI-DT (ABC). Does anyone have a suggestion as to an additional antenna that I perhaps could diplex in with the DB4 that would allow me to receive WNCT-DT (CBS) and WFXI-DT (FOX) HD programming?

I'm a DirecTV subscriber and am very pleased with the new rollout of DirecTV MPEG4 channels...looking to get those additional CBS and FOX HD channels so I can ditch Time Warner Cable and save a $100 a month.

TIA...

jamieh1
11-11-07, 02:58 PM
Anyone else getting a lower signal on WYDO-DT today, mine has dropped off and is freezing.

jspENC
11-11-07, 05:00 PM
Hi guys first time poster to this forum. I live in Hubert NC which is a small community between Camp Lejeune and Swansboro, just off highway NC24.

I currently have an Antennas Direct DB4 antenna (mounted outside near the roofline of my rented house) but at my location I am only able to receive WITN-DT (NBC) and WCTI-DT (ABC). Does anyone have a suggestion as to an additional antenna that I perhaps could diplex in with the DB4 that would allow me to receive WNCT-DT (CBS) and WFXI-DT (FOX) HD programming?

I'm a DirecTV subscriber and am very pleased with the new rollout of DirecTV MPEG4 channels...looking to get those additional CBS and FOX HD channels so I can ditch Time Warner Cable and save a $100 a month.

TIA...

Get an antennacraft y-10 (see links below) joined together with your DB-4 via a channel master joiner, or consider a pre-amp channel master 7777. This depends on the length of your cable run and how many splits you make to other TV's. If you are only splitting to a couple of TV's and your lead in cable length is 75' or less you won't need the pre-amp most likely. You will need a rotor or a third antenna (another UHF) aimed at WFXI which is to the east. Visit www.tvfool.com for all the tower information.

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=Y10-7-13

This needed only if you don't need a pre-amp... (model 0549) http://www.warrenelectronics.com/Antennas/joiners.htm

Pre-amp http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=ANC7777
******************************************

Map I put together of where the TV towers are and which way you need to be aiming to get what...
http://img36.picoodle.com/img/img36/9/10/13/f_TOWERSITEsm_dce945d.gif

jspENC
11-11-07, 05:14 PM
Anyone else getting a lower signal on WYDO-DT today, mine has dropped off and is freezing.

I don't know what the story is. I looked on FCC site for WYDO and the latest request for an extention (late October) shows their application was "Dismissed".

On the WFXI application however it shows they were given permission to continue on like they have been with WYDO and "flash cut" to full power just before the analog cut-off.

RickD_99
11-12-07, 12:18 PM
Get an antennacraft y-10 (see links below) joined together with your DB-4 via a channel master joiner, or consider a pre-amp channel master 7777. This depends on the length of your cable run and how many splits you make to other TV's. If you are only splitting to a couple of TV's and your lead in cable length is 75' or less you won't need the pre-amp most likely. You will need a rotor or a third antenna (another UHF) aimed at WFXI which is to the east. Visit www.tvfool.com for all the tower information.


Thanks very much for the reply jspENC! I'll give the Y-10 a shot!

jspENC
11-12-07, 01:08 PM
No problem. It should be more than plenty, and you will be ready for 2009 when WCTI and WFXI move back to VHF also. We will have 8, 10 and 12 at that time.

Let me know how it works. I've had several Private messages asking me for my advice, but so far I haven't heard how well or not so well the stuff I advised worked.

RickD_99
11-12-07, 02:44 PM
No problem. It should be more than plenty, and you will be ready for 2009 when WCTI and WFXI move back to VHF also. We will have 8, 10 and 12 at that time.

Let me know how it works. I've had several Private messages asking me for my advice, but so far I haven't heard how well or not so well the stuff I advised worked.



Will do...just ordered the Y-10 from Solid Signal.

BTW what is the assigned channel frequency for WYDO-DT? Is it VHF or UHF?

For some reason AntennaWeb.org does not list WYDO as transmitting a digital signal...

jspENC
11-12-07, 03:44 PM
WYDO is on UHF 21 but you won't receive it where you are. I can't receive it in Jacksonville unless the atmosphere brings it in which is very rare and it doesn't last but a few minutes. I do get WFXI on UHF 24 (8.1) fairly good though, not quite as strong as Wilmington FOX but close.

You might be able to receive WSFX 30 FOX 26.1 from Wilmington if you aim toward that direction. You should get WWAY 3.1 (46) out of Wilmington where you are without a problem if you turn the DB-4 to the southwest. (just something to test out if your wanting more channels)

RMartin631
11-12-07, 04:51 PM
WITN is making a move. There is now a medium sized sign up on their property (the old movie theater) on Arlington Blvd. proclaiming that site is the future home of WITN.

Also watch "Just Ask Mike" for, perhaps, some details. I wrote him last week asking about this issue apparently right before they put up the sign.

RickD_99
11-12-07, 05:17 PM
WYDO is on UHF 21 but you won't receive it where you are. I can't receive it in Jacksonville unless the atmosphere brings it in which is very rare and it doesn't last but a few minutes. I do get WFXI on UHF 24 (8.1) fairly good though, not quite as strong as Wilmington FOX but close.

You might be able to receive WSFX 30 FOX 26.1 from Wilmington if you aim toward that direction. You should get WWAY 3.1 (46) out of Wilmington where you are without a problem if you turn the DB-4 to the southwest. (just something to test out if your wanting more channels)


For now I'm going to concentrate on trying to get WFXI for FOX programming (I ordered a separate UHF antenna-the Terrestrial Digital high gain 42XG-for WFXI). I'm 12 miles closer to their transmitter than you are in J Vegas so I figure I have a good shot at getting that one. Fox 26.1 in Wilmington will be my plan B. Not really interested in WWAY since I get a very strong signal from WCTI for my ABC programming.

So if all of this works out I will be using 3 separate diplexed antennas to pick up 5 local HD stations that interest me! All I can say is there are millions of Ma and Pa Kettles out there who are gonna be plenty pissed when Feb 2009 rolls around and they find out they can't get their digital locals with one pair of cheap Rat Shack rabbit ears! :rolleyes:

jspENC
11-12-07, 06:46 PM
Remember to that you don't have to put all those antennas on the same mast or at the same location. You might have one mounted on one end of the house (say for FOX) and the Greenville/New Bern antennas mounted on the other.
I think that' what I would do so as to not create an eyesore. You can join them all in the attic or in the crawl space.

jspENC
11-12-07, 06:50 PM
WITN is making a move. There is now a medium sized sign up on their property (the old movie theater) on Arlington Blvd. proclaiming that site is the future home of WITN.

Also watch "Just Ask Mike" for, perhaps, some details. I wrote him last week asking about this issue apparently right before they put up the sign.

Why don't they just move the whole shebang to Greenville? I don't understand the need in two studio's. I don't know of any other station I've ever watched that does this.

RMartin631
11-12-07, 07:03 PM
Why don't they just move the whole shebang to Greenville? I don't understand the need in two studio's. I don't know of any other station I've ever watched that does this.

It's hard to tell what they're going to do. I'm sure we'll hear something shortly from Mike. I'm hopeing for the first High Def local news in Greenville. If you're going to do it you may as well do it right.

jspENC
11-12-07, 07:37 PM
WNCT and WCTI--Get your guard up. LOL This time it may be more than a "Doppler War":eek::D

Electrico
11-13-07, 10:16 AM
It's hard to tell what they're going to do. I'm sure we'll hear something shortly from Mike. I'm hopeing for the first High Def local news in Greenville. If you're going to do it you may as well do it right.
DD 5.1

RMartin631
11-13-07, 06:59 PM
DD 5.1

Maybe that too!

ballardkringle
11-14-07, 10:24 AM
The sign on Arlington Blvd. looks good! WITN has gradually made many changes for the better since the new gm took over. :)

Electrico
11-14-07, 12:31 PM
D* added 23 new HD CH's early this morning:

299-Nickelodeon
325-Spike
327-CMT HD
331-MTV
335-VH1

PPV:
175
176
177
178
179

Reg. Sports Ch's:
620-1
630-1
631-1
634-1
637-1
638-1
641-1
641-1
644-1
645-1
649-1
651-1
654-1
[It's a shame that Spike did NOT upgrade to 5.1 DD along with it's HD. CSI reruns would have been great with 5.1. Oh well we can't win for losing!]

Enjoy!

Electrico
11-14-07, 03:24 PM
The sign on Arlington Blvd. looks good! WITN has gradually made many changes for the better since the new gm took over. :)
With ALL due respect do you care to list them?

jspENC
11-14-07, 04:00 PM
To me that voice guy was the best thing they changed, next to that would have been that
God awful cheesy paint job.

The next thing like most of you I want to happen is the Dolby Digital encoder, and the HD news.

While I'm on news, I'm also curious what kind of changes are going to come up on FOX with WCTI's company now owning them. Will WCTI take over news production at ten, and if so I wonder if WNCT will try news on the CW like what ABC 11 does in Raleigh? Is this market big enough for two newscasts at 10? I don't think the ratings are very good on FOX 8/14 news at 10 right now either.

ncgbrown
11-15-07, 08:23 AM
Just installed my CM 7777 attached to my CM4221 in the attic and got beautiful results - 90% + on all networks. I now have 35.1 WEPX in my channel guide but am not receiving any signal from it. Is this guy live?

jspENC
11-15-07, 09:54 AM
35.1 is down at Topsail Beach. They are live, but not sure why they labeled it WEPX because it is actually WPXU. WEPX isn't on the air.

ballardkringle
11-15-07, 10:37 AM
With ALL due respect to the WITN hater(s), here's some of the things WITN does or (is now doing) right-

better opening to their newscasts, much improved music not just to their newscast but their other programs and promos as well, improved over the shoulder graphics on the newscast as well as weather and sports, improved news set backdrop, sponsoring of the NC Seafood Festival as well as live broadcasts from the festival, official station of ECU including excellent broadcasts of many of the games, excellent local morning show broadcast from Arlington Blvd. Greenville with live remote hometown segments, halloween costume contest, Country Rover, Doppler the weather dog, Real Doppler radar, Toys For Tots toy drive each year, best web site (award-winning), local weather photos sent in by viewers, only all digital all-weather channel in the market, Just Ask Mike news segment and blog, and finally a great news team - Dave, Marvin, Tom, Jim, Jamie, Jennifer, Billy, Brian, Chelsea, Lynette and especially the new one on the block Christine!

For the record, I do not work for WITN, I'm just a viewer. Also I think WNCT and WCTI should be recognized too for what they do right. Maybe I will point out the things they do right at a later date or maybe someone else at this forum can. Of course there is and always will be room for improvement but overall our market is pretty well served in spite of some of the expensive technological challenges, competition from other media, eroding network support, etc. I look forward to the improvements to continue at WITN and am especially looking forward to the new studio in Greenville.

In closing, this forum provides a way to comment on our local tv market and is even read by the local tv stations employees as well. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but let's point out the positive things once in a while. I always look forward to reading the posts on this forum about local hdtv reception and local tv broadcasting in general and will continue.

That's all!

:)

agregjones
11-15-07, 11:16 AM
I think it's important to note a few things about the Greenville Market. Viewers here see local stations along with Raleigh stations. With considerably less viewership (because of market), the Greenville stations are forced to compete with stations like WRAL. WRAL has always been an HD leader.

I think that the local stations have made a number of moves over the last few years to put up a good product beside one of the leaders from a nearby market. They have done this with a smaller budget and I think they should be applauded.

My only lingering concern in this market is the lack of CW in HD.

ballardkringle
11-15-07, 11:42 AM
Agreed!

jspENC
11-15-07, 12:09 PM
I think some changes need to be made in the market boundaries as defined by Neilson Media, but that's another story. I think Raleigh needs to lose a few counties to this market,like Wayne & Wilson and I think the Wilmington market needs some of the southern counties in our market.

JMO I'll probably get called out for this idea!

Electrico
11-15-07, 01:23 PM
With ALL due respect to the WITN hater(s), here's some of the things WITN does or (is now doing) right-

better opening to their newscasts, much improved music not just to their newscast but their other programs and promos as well, improved over the shoulder graphics on the newscast as well as weather and sports, improved news set backdrop, sponsoring of the NC Seafood Festival as well as live broadcasts from the festival, official station of ECU including excellent broadcasts of many of the games, excellent local morning show broadcast from Arlington Blvd. Greenville with live remote hometown segments, halloween costume contest, Country Rover, Doppler the weather dog, Real Doppler radar, Toys For Tots toy drive each year, best web site (award-winning), local weather photos sent in by viewers, only all digital all-weather channel in the market, Just Ask Mike news segment and blog, and finally a great news team - Dave, Marvin, Tom, Jim, Jamie, Jennifer, Billy, Brian, Chelsea, Lynette and especially the new one on the block Christine!

For the record, I do not work for WITN, I'm just a viewer. Also I think WNCT and WCTI should be recognized too for what they do right. Maybe I will point out the things they do right at a later date or maybe someone else at this forum can. Of course there is and always will be room for improvement but overall our market is pretty well served in spite of some of the expensive technological challenges, competition from other media, eroding network support, etc. I look forward to the improvements to continue at WITN and am especially looking forward to the new studio in Greenville.

In closing, this forum provides a way to comment on our local tv market and is even read by the local tv stations employees as well. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but let's point out the positive things once in a while. I always look forward to reading the posts on this forum about local hdtv reception and local tv broadcasting in general and will continue.

That's all!

:)
Your opinion is noted and respected>end of the story. I don't care for a whinny voiced matured(supposedly) person making goo-goo eyed childish gestures while delivering the news. I am NOT an ECU fan NOR I will ever be. I am a Pac-10, specifically a USC Trojans fan.
Back to news delivery, if you watch any national network you don't see a person with a whinny voice goo-goo eying and making childish gestures.
Thank you

jspENC
11-15-07, 02:37 PM
:eek:

jamieh1
11-15-07, 04:26 PM
Maybe with WITNs new studio coming we can see alot of new things coming our way.

cozmo1976
11-16-07, 12:24 PM
Your opinion is noted and respected>end of the story. I don't care for a whinny voiced matured(supposedly) person making goo-goo eyed childish gestures while delivering the news. I am NOT an ECU fan NOR I will ever be. I am a Pac-10, specifically a USC Trojans fan.
Back to news delivery, if you watch any national network you don't see a person with a whinny voice goo-goo eying and making childish gestures.
Thank you

I think the word you are looking for is whiny.
I don't really like her either, but they change newscasters so much it won't matter long. I watch the WITN news because I like the way they present the weather.

jspENC
11-16-07, 01:37 PM
THey've got these new billboards up all over Jacksonville advertising themselves as the "Weather Authority".
The TV stations are very competitive in this market. I guess because the ratings are always pretty close from what I've been able to figure out.

Electrico
11-16-07, 06:57 PM
I think the word you are looking for is whiny.
I don't really like her either, but they change newscasters so much it won't matter long. I watch the WITN news because I like the way they present the weather.
I have the Check spelling feature; [whinny] is correct. Furthermore I looked it up on my Webster's dictionary to make sure. Just like skinny it has two N's, OK? I like the weather presentation minus the "whinny"introduction, go figure...
Thanks

cozmo1976
11-16-07, 11:49 PM
I have the Check spelling feature; [whinny] is correct. Furthermore I looked it up on my Webster's dictionary to make sure. Just like skinny it has two N's, OK? I like the weather presentation minus the "whinny"introduction, go figure...
Thanks

whin·ny - –verb (used without object)
1. to utter the characteristic cry of a horse; neigh.


whin·y - –adjective, whin·i·er, whin·i·est.
complaining; fretful; cranky: The baby is whiny because he missed his nap.

Are you trying to say that she sounds like a horse whinnying or she sounds like she is whining?

I wasn't trying to be the grammer police - I only pointed it out to you to help you express your displeasure in the clearest manner possible. People want to know what makes you unhappy - we care...... really.

I apologize everyone, for the off topic posts.

Electrico
11-17-07, 12:10 PM
whin·ny - –verb (used without object)
1. to utter the characteristic cry of a horse; neigh.


whin·y - –adjective, whin·i·er, whin·i·est.
complaining; fretful; cranky: The baby is whiny because he missed his nap.

Are you trying to say that she sounds like a horse whinnying or she sounds like she is whining?

I wasn't trying to be the grammer police - I only pointed it out to you to help you express your displeasure in the clearest manner possible. People want to know what makes you unhappy - we care...... really.

I apologize everyone, for the off topic posts.
"grammer" police, UHM? Noted! It is appreciated! The last time I checked it is spelled: [GRAMMAR], so much for your credibility, professor!:o:eek:>:rolleyes:
Good day:cool:

cozmo1976
11-18-07, 01:35 AM
Grammer, haha. Touche.
Now watch how I don't argue that the word should be spelled that way, even though I accidentally used the wrong spelling.

Electrico
11-25-07, 10:30 AM
Would someone post the thread that lists ALL the HD CH's which are also identified by having/NOT having DD 5.1 including OTA's.
Thnx

RMartin631
11-25-07, 03:58 PM
Well Mike "kinda" answered my questions on Just Ask Mike!

http://justaskmike.blogspot.com/

He would only describe the new facility as "state of the art". It sounds to me like HD local news is coming to town. Way to go WITN!

jspENC
11-25-07, 06:47 PM
WNCT can still beat em. Now's there chance, although I bet Raleigh will come first as always... Wouldn't it be neat though, they were the first TV station in the area way back when, and now they could be the first to do HD in ENC.

Electrico
11-25-07, 07:28 PM
WNCT can still beat em. Now's there chance, although I bet Raleigh will come first as always... Wouldn't it be neat though, they were the first TV station in the area way back when, and now they could be the first to do HD in ENC.
You're too nice. It's NOT even close. WNCT got them beat from every angle NOT to mention the voice contest:rolleyes:
WNCT also has the 5.1 DD>FACT:D
WNCT wins by KO in the first round with 2½ minutes remaining:p

jamieh1
11-25-07, 09:07 PM
Well Mike "kinda" answered my questions on Just Ask Mike!

http://justaskmike.blogspot.com/

He would only describe the new facility as "state of the art". It sounds to me like HD local news is coming to town. Way to go WITN!

I had a email from Mike a few weeks ago and he asked me not to publish the contents of it, but with the new station coming, I think things will be looking better here in the east.

jspENC
11-25-07, 09:28 PM
I had a email from Mike a few weeks ago and he asked me not to publish the contents of it, but with the new station coming, I think things will be looking better here in the east.

A lot better for who? Us or WITN?:p:D

I still won't abandon WNCT or WCTI no matter what they throw on the air... I've never been one who was known as "selfish" by relying on only one source. lol

RMartin631
11-26-07, 06:02 AM
Well they're (WITN) having, what I'd guess to be, a microwave problem this morning. No video from Greenville and the audio sounds like they're talking over the phone. I just heard it, they are talking over the phone. I can hear them handing the phone back and forth.

NewsNiner
11-26-07, 08:29 PM
Well they're (WITN) having, what I'd guess to be, a microwave problem this morning. No video from Greenville and the audio sounds like they're talking over the phone. I just heard it, they are talking over the phone. I can hear them handing the phone back and forth.

Yes, for an hour WITN did a time travel back to the days of radio with pictures. They've been having problems with microwave fade from Greenville...I guess this morning the whole thing went out, and stayed that way.

It was tough to watch. Finally sometime after six Tom Skinner appeared in the Washington studio.

I can't figure out why WITN doesn't fix this...unless they're waiting on the Nextel conversion to digital microwave to fix it for them. That's many months, if not years away...so I guess us morning folk will have to get use to radio with pictures every once in a while!

foxeng
11-26-07, 09:47 PM
I can't figure out why WITN doesn't fix this...unless they're waiting on the Nextel conversion to digital microwave to fix it for them. That's many months, if not years away...so I guess us morning folk will have to get use to radio with pictures every once in a while!

Unless they are using 2 GHz to shoot the signal from Greenville to Washington, NEXTEL will not do them any good. The NEXTEL deal is only for 2 GHz equipment.

VARTV
11-27-07, 05:52 PM
Is on the air from the Chesapeake VA/NC line... They are on VHF9...

foxeng
11-27-07, 10:42 PM
Is on the air from the Chesapeake VA/NC line... They are on VHF9...

Wasn't that their post transition channel and 4 their flash cut pre-transition channel?

VARTV
11-28-07, 08:07 AM
Wasn't that their post transition channel and 4 their flash cut pre-transition channel?I believe so...

foxeng
11-28-07, 11:49 AM
I believe so...

A quick check of the FCC on line data base shows no CP's for channel 9 have been issued. Only for the flash cut channel 4. I HOPE they haven't put a channel 9 on the air pre-transition. I would think WNCT wouldn't be very happy about that at this point in time.

jamieh1
11-28-07, 12:18 PM
Directv added BIOGRAPHY HD(720p) today on channel 266.

VARTV
11-28-07, 01:00 PM
A quick check of the FCC on line data base shows no CP's for channel 9 have been issued. Only for the flash cut channel 4. I HOPE they haven't put a channel 9 on the air pre-transition. I would think WNCT wouldn't be very happy about that at this point in time.They are on 4 and not 9...

foxeng
11-28-07, 02:22 PM
They are on 4 and not 9...

OK. Your earlier post said this:

W S K Y - D T...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Is on the air from the Chesapeake VA/NC line... They are on VHF9...

and that confused me. Sorry.

VARTV
11-28-07, 03:16 PM
OK. Your earlier post said this:

and that confused me. Sorry.Yeah... I know. Just didn't want to come out and say I was wrong... LOL.

Retspin
11-28-07, 04:07 PM
They are on 4 and not 9...

What kind of reception are you getting from WSKY? I wonder how far they will be able to get out on 4. I have been reading that low band VHF is not the place to be for digital.

jspENC
11-28-07, 06:36 PM
WSKY DT is very directional to the east. There really isn't much chance that anyone in this market will be able to view it very often anyway, unless you are in Washington or Tyrrel Counties and to the north of there.

Last night when I saw VAR say WSKY was on channel 9, I went to FCC and checked also, they are supposed to be on 4. I thought I'd wait and see if anyone else picked up on that.

jspENC
11-28-07, 06:38 PM
When are the BLOGS on WNCT . COM going to be updated? I miss the fast updating we saw in the beginning.

RMartin631
11-28-07, 06:51 PM
I can't figure out why WITN doesn't fix this...unless they're waiting on the Nextel conversion to digital microwave to fix it for them. That's many months, if not years away...so I guess us morning folk will have to get use to radio with pictures every once in a while!

Given what we now know about WITN it's likely they're going to spend as little money as possible on fixing old equipment that's going to be trashed soon.

NewsNiner
11-29-07, 07:28 PM
Given what we now know about WITN it's likely they're going to spend as little money as possible on fixing old equipment that's going to be trashed soon.

According to a story in the Washington paper WITN will only have a news bureau there after the move to Greenville. So I guess that puts to rest all the specualtion about just whats going up on Arlington Blvd.

jspENC
11-29-07, 07:33 PM
I'm curious what they will do with the current studio in Chocowinity? Will they sell it? What will they do with their mega doppler? I guess they could move it to the transmitter grounds... I would think there would be plenty of land for that.

easternncnewswat
11-29-07, 08:34 PM
When are the BLOGS on WNCT . COM going to be updated? I miss the fast updating we saw in the beginning.

Sorry jspENC... It's being addressed. :mad:

Haven't had much time to check in here lately. Glad to see you guys are still here talking since there doesn't seem to be much more movement on digital here in the east.

Feel free to hit me up with questions; I'll answer what I CAN... HaHa! Don't want to tip my hand though. ;)

jspENC
11-30-07, 08:49 AM
Eastern, I thought you had so much work on your desk that you weren't able to read what we were talking about anymore! lol

The website has really grown. I check it often and seem to always find something new.

Are you guys going to do the Christmas tree decorating thing again this year, or something else?

avs0208
11-30-07, 12:36 PM
The Suddenlink rep told me the other day they plan to add several new HD channels and a few SD channels in December. I don't know for sure, but here is the tentative list:

ESPN2 HD
ESPNU
The History Channel HD
Fox Sports South HD

I think they have more to come too. They also said they are negotiating with the NFL network again and so far it looks promising although no decision has been made.

zama89
12-01-07, 10:11 AM
The Suddenlink rep told me the other day they plan to add several new HD channels and a few SD channels in December. I don't know for sure, but here is the tentative list:

ESPN2 HD
ESPNU
The History Channel HD
Fox Sports South HD

I think they have more to come too. They also said they are negotiating with the NFL network again and so far it looks promising although no decision has been made.

Hi, I'm in central Tx and am also a suddenlink customer. I've been searching for information to see if and when they might be adding some new HD channels. I had heard they might be making some additions in December. Hopefully the channels you mention will be made available in our region here too. I'd really like ESPN2 HD and Fox Sports HD to be added...some other SL customers already have Fox Sports HD, just not all areas yet.

Thanks for the helpful information.

jspENC
12-01-07, 10:39 AM
I wouldn't wait... Get Directv. Seriously. Right now there is nothing better, and cable will never be able to compete with what D* can do. They have their ducks in a row when it comes to HD.

jamieh1
12-01-07, 11:01 AM
Anyone with a HDDVR HR20-700 (directv) introduced and new BETA software update Friday night 11p-2:30a by force update method.
It will also be available Sat night same time.
It introduced and new user interface. New menus and options.

Visit the dbstalk.com forums and join the directv cutting edge thread to get all the info on being a tester for all the new software.
New updates are released every Friday and Sat nights. It allows you to test new software before it goes national to everyone.

zama89
12-01-07, 11:08 AM
tried to get them last year...didn't work out. Where I live I have too many large trees on the south side of my home. It's a beautiful neighborhood, just stinks if you want satellite...which makes us go with suddenlink for now. The installers tried to make it happen, but no luck after a week of repeated visits. D*TV was great in trying to get it working and let me cancel without any charges. Just impossible for my area.

jamieh1
12-01-07, 11:29 PM
Here we go again. GEEZ

jspENC
12-02-07, 09:48 AM
:eek::)

MitsuHelp
12-02-07, 10:25 AM
Ok....go ahead and tear me a new one but I tried to find it....:rolleyes:

Does anyone have a QAM Time Warner listing for Eastern NC?

It would be cool to have this as a sticky since the channels do change from time to time!

Thanks

ballardkringle
12-02-07, 08:46 PM
Yesterday on the web,

I...watched...WITNs...live...streaming...video...of...the... Greenville...Christmas...parade. :(

It was their only coverage this year. So much for my glowing post a while back!

jamieh1
12-02-07, 09:48 PM
Early today ducting was strong, I pulled in WFMY, WTKR, WGHP, WVEC, WHRO, WPXV.

These were from the Greensboro, Winston-Salem area and the Norfolk, Va Beach areas.

avs0208
12-02-07, 10:27 PM
Electrico, I am very aware that DirecTV has the HD offerings they have and how limited Suddenlink is. The last I checked this forum's name is "Local HDTV Info and Reception". My post fits in this forum very well. I am not campaigning for anybody. It was relevant information that I found and thought appropriate to post. Maybe we should get back to relevant discussion concerning local HD programming and technology and not continue the personal attacks that were non-existent until you came around.

Alan Gouger
12-03-07, 12:21 PM
A few complaints came in, please stay on topic and leave the nit picking aside.

Thanks everyone:)

easternncnewswat
12-03-07, 02:46 PM
Eastern, I thought you had so much work on your desk that you weren't able to read what we were talking about anymore! lol

The website has really grown. I check it often and seem to always find something new.

Are you guys going to do the Christmas tree decorating thing again this year, or something else?

Sorry for the delayed response, jsp... If you look closely in this morning's mid-morning webcast, there are naked trees adorning some of the desks in the newsroom. ;)

Stay tuned over the course of the coming weeks!

Thanks too for expressing your interest! I'm always interested in hearing your thoughts on how and what we can do, do better, and do best!

RMartin631
12-03-07, 03:42 PM
Wow, does this mean that WNCT will draw first blood in the Greenville Hi-Def war? Maybe they'll get one of those fancy 1 million watt weather radar units?

easternncnewswat
12-03-07, 04:03 PM
Wow, does this mean that WNCT will draw first blood in the Greenville Hi-Def war? Maybe they'll get one of those fancy 1 million watt weather radar units?

That's not something that I can answer to be honest. I know a lot of stations in our group are moving to HD and I'm actually surprised how quickly it's happening. Having said that, these are all stations in larger markets. With the interest in HD around here though, I guess you never know...

jspENC
12-03-07, 05:01 PM
How do I get this mornings report? I can only find the 4 PM. (if I'm too late it's OK!)

easternncnewswat
12-03-07, 05:13 PM
How do I get this mornings report? I can only find the 4 PM. (if I'm too late it's OK!)

Yeah, it's been overwritten now... Anyways, keep your eyes open. Good stuff coming soon!

RMartin631
12-03-07, 06:06 PM
I know a lot of stations in our group are moving to HD and I'm actually surprised how quickly it's happening.

I'd actually be happy if your group would buy WFXI/WYDO a new video machine. Those local spots and programs that slide in from the side and then bounce around a little before finding the center makes me dizzy:rolleyes:

jspENC
12-03-07, 06:24 PM
They finally fixed that popping sound at least on WFXI during the news.

easternncnewswat
12-03-07, 07:41 PM
I'd actually be happy if your group would buy WFXI/WYDO a new video machine. Those local spots and programs that slide in from the side and then bounce around a little before finding the center makes me dizzy:rolleyes:

Well, we actually just produce the news for Fox 8/14. We don't actually own them. I'll pass it along though...

avs0208
12-05-07, 03:48 PM
Somebody zipped when they should have zagged last night on WNCT right before Rudolph came on at 8pm. My son almost lost it when Entertainment Tonight ended and was not switched back to CBS network programming. Finally when it was corrected, they then decided to run a couple minutes of commercials on top of Rudolph. Rushing to find out why my son was so mad, I figured out what was going on and turned the channel to WRAL and all was well.......

easternncnewswat
12-05-07, 05:42 PM
Somebody zipped when they should have zagged last night on WNCT right before Rudolph came on at 8pm. My son almost lost it when Entertainment Tonight ended and was not switched back to CBS network programming. Finally when it was corrected, they then decided to run a couple minutes of commercials on top of Rudolph. Rushing to find out why my son was so mad, I figured out what was going on and turned the channel to WRAL and all was well.......

I know... I was like, what the heck is going on?!?

jspENC
12-05-07, 06:35 PM
I didn't turn to WNCT until the big show at 10. It was all good there!

easternncnewswat
12-05-07, 07:38 PM
I think that happened last night cause those Paramount shows stopped their analog feeds at the end of last weeks. They're coming down all digital now. This has caused a bit of a problem with some automation systems at our centralized switching in Greenville-Spartanburg. I know we found a solution on our end that the other stations in our group hadn't. But it, obviously, hasn't been without it's ups and downs. I know that the folks in Master Control here at our station are working as best they can to keep that sort of thing from happening. Still, mishaps occur.

Btw, this is all my understanding so I may have gotten some things right, some wrong in the stuff up above. Just trying to explain to the best of my ability.

Anyways, thanx for posting!

jamieh1
12-05-07, 08:05 PM
Here is a confirmation on new HD channels coming to Suddenlink.

HD BASIC (NEW)
TBS HD
FSN SOUTH HD

ESPN HD MOVING DOWN TO HD BASIC

HD PLUS (NEW)
HISTORY CHANNEL HD

HD BASIC FREE
HD PLUS $7.95


Coming Jan 08

Source: Rate adjustment notification



Also Directv added several new regional HD sports channels today, including a 2nd Fox Sports net south HD Plus channel
and another (((XM))) Holiday Channel.

brewtus00
12-06-07, 02:05 PM
If we dont get ESPN2 HD and ESPNU on suddenlink Im gonna be highly disappointed

2020eyes
12-06-07, 02:48 PM
If we dont get ESPN2 HD and ESPNU on suddenlink Im gonna be highly disappointed

It's a bunch of garbage if we don't..I have to switch to Direct to get it now but since we're in little eastern NC Direct doesn't have local HD...it's always the consumer that gets hurt

Brandonw27858
12-06-07, 03:21 PM
It won't really bother me if we don't get ESPNU, but ESPN2 HD is a whole other story. How long are we going to have to wait for this channel that we should seriously already have? If it's a money issue, take the History Channel HD away and use that money towards ESPN2 HD. Come on SuddenLink, don't drop the ball on this one. Also I hope we NEVER get the NFL network. That channel should be boycotted(not sure if that is really a word) by every carrier in the nation. It's just a money racket for the NFL. If the NFL want to make/save a little green, pay your players/coaches a little less.

jspENC
12-06-07, 10:07 PM
The popping sound is still going on with WFXI 8.1 news at 10. It's annoying...

easternncnewswat
12-06-07, 11:09 PM
It is annoying... I wish they'd spend some money on new equipment.

NewsNiner
12-07-07, 07:41 AM
It is annoying... I wish they'd spend some money on new equipment.

May be when Fox starts doing its own news is when they'll get 'er fixed. The deal for WCTI to buy them just went south, so who's left to do their news??

jspENC
12-07-07, 09:15 AM
With the sale not going through, I just hope they can afford to keep the station on the air!

foxeng
12-07-07, 09:40 AM
The deal for WCTI to buy them just went south, so who's left to do their news??


Ooooh, that is bad. The FCC had approved the sale too.

jspENC
12-08-07, 04:36 PM
Question for the engineers.

When analog TV ends, will we be able to hear audio on radio's with VHF, UHF TV bands? I have one and just happened to think it probably won't be any good aftre the cut off. Will new radio's be made to receive the digital TV band you think, or will battery powered minature TV's come out? Since most DT stations are on UHF, I wonder what kind of antenna they will require to operate? It doesn't seem like a single dipole will be effective.

foxeng
12-09-07, 08:01 AM
Question for the engineers.

When analog TV ends, will we be able to hear audio on radio's with VHF, UHF TV bands? I have one and just happened to think it probably won't be any good aftre the cut off.

Only if it decodes ATSC. (answer - no)

Will new radio's be made to receive the digital TV band you think, or will battery powered minature TV's come out? Since most DT stations are on UHF, I wonder what kind of antenna they will require to operate? It doesn't seem like a single dipole will be effective.

Unknown

jspENC
12-09-07, 09:29 AM
Thanks foxeng.

I guess when Hurricanes come in we're out of luck, or ice storms, unless the generator is running...

jspENC
12-13-07, 08:39 AM
Did anyone watch FOX NEWS at 10 last night? It was hilarious, and kind of pitiful all at the same time.

foxeng
12-13-07, 09:24 AM
Did anyone watch FOX NEWS at 10 last night? It was hilarious, and kind of pitiful all at the same time.

WHOO! You scared me! I had to work last night and tried to remember what we had screwed up and then realized you were talking about the OTHER FOX 8 10 O'clock News! ;)

PLEASE don't do THAT again! :D

From Nov:

http://www.youtube.com/v/610CnauzJeY&rel=1