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jspENC
12-13-07, 09:54 AM
LOL!

I usually watch FOX 26 news at 10 because it's much more professional, even for a smaller market, and the weather forecaster is one of the best I've ever watched, but because I missed the 6 o'clock on WNCT I figured I'd watch FOX 8. It was a sight to see and hear is all I can say... While one particular story was ongoing, the anchor went into a bit of a rage, (didn't care that his mike was still on) and you could hear the whole tangent.:eek:

I don't blame him though, the equipment wasn't working like it should have been.

RMartin631
12-13-07, 04:50 PM
The deal for WCTI to buy them just went south

Somebody better tell the world about the deal falling through then. There are numerous websites that proclaim Esteem is the current owner including Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WFXI

brewtus00
12-13-07, 06:39 PM
talked to suddenlink on the phone today and they told me we would be getting ESPN2 HD and ESPNU in January

Brandonw27858
12-14-07, 11:47 AM
best news I have heard from them in a LONG time.....if they keep their word.

HDBill
12-15-07, 11:18 AM
That's funny, since ESPU will not even start broadcasting in HD until 8/28/08. Another reason why I have Directv!

Electrico
12-15-07, 02:28 PM
D* bought DVR Replay from D&M(Denon&Marantz).

jspENC
12-15-07, 03:48 PM
I wish one TV station would put up some traffic cams in these cities!!!

easternncnewswat
12-15-07, 05:48 PM
I wish one TV station would put up some traffic cams in these cities!!!

Nice idea... Lot of cost involved. It'd be better if the state would put 'em up like they do on I-40, I-85, etc... Then we could all tap into them. :D

jspENC
12-15-07, 06:34 PM
The state has them in Wilmington. I guess they don't care about Hwy 11, 258 or US 17 in ENC...
Save the money for HD news. ;)

Electrico
12-15-07, 08:15 PM
The state has them in Wilmington. I guess they don't care about Hwy 11, 258 or US 17 in ENC...
Save the money for HD news. ;)
Here is the double standard:
Off topic garbage by the untouchables is accepted, by anybody else is scrutinized and reported to the ____________ moderators...

Political friends always win in America...

brewtus00
12-16-07, 12:29 AM
thats why i said ESPNU and not ESPNU HD HDBill

RMartin631
12-16-07, 02:29 PM
I wish one TV station would put up some traffic cams in these cities!!!

Mike over at WITN asked for some suggestions of good places to put them. I was going to suggest Greenville at Memorial. You can wait several cycles of lights to get through there. There are also a whole bunch of commercial buildings there for them to mount the cams to.

Maybe if our local stations put their resources together (I know they do it, 9 and 7 are on the same tower) they could give some pretty good traffic cam coverage without help from the state.

RMartin631
12-16-07, 02:46 PM
The state has them in Wilmington. I guess they don't care about Hwy 11, 258 or US 17 in ENC...

In fairness to the state, Greenville doesn't have the traffic or the population that Wilmington does yet. It is steadily increasing though. A little known thing is that the telcos are planning an overlay or split area code for ENC by 2012. I want everybody to practice dialing 10 digits for every call including locals. That's what an overlay system does. Oh, and if you have to order any new business cards or signage make sure you put all 10 digits on them.

jspENC
12-16-07, 03:12 PM
The FCC actually favors "community antennas" so that it makes things easier for viewers to get their local channels. The Grifton tower is loaded to capacity with the Digital and analog TV antennas, plus two radio station antennas.

It would really surprise me if two stations would split the cost for traffic cams... They are in competition for sales and ratings.

brewtus00
12-17-07, 08:00 PM
Well History Channel HD is working and FSN HD is on the guide but no picture

agregjones
12-17-07, 08:53 PM
Well History Channel HD is working and FSN HD is on the guide but no picture

If you're seeing History Channel HD for the first time, it may be disappointing. They crop and zoom the picture with no original HD content. I do look forward to HD programs when they have them, though.

Electrico
12-19-07, 04:43 PM
24Boise St. will whip ECU in Hawaii by at least ten points:p

jspENC
12-20-07, 10:31 AM
eastern,
You still don't have any votes! Where's Gary's vote?:)

GregoryTV
12-21-07, 10:42 AM
Suddenlink has ESPN2 HD on 725 and ESPN-U on 241 now.

Electrico
12-21-07, 06:26 PM
ECU VS BOISE ST on ESPN and in HD on Sunday(23 Dec 07) night at 8:00 PM.

HDBill
12-22-07, 10:55 AM
No HD for the ECU game. It will be in sparkling SD.

brewtus00
12-22-07, 11:47 AM
well according to ESPN.com TV listings it will be shown in HD I cant imagine why all the others game they show are in HD and that particular one wouldnt be

jamieh1
12-22-07, 06:12 PM
No HD for the ECU game. It will be in sparkling SD.

Directv HD reciever program guide shows the game will be in HD!

jspENC
12-23-07, 01:45 PM
Is anyone else having extreme pixelation on WNCT? My signal strength is as good as it ever was, yet both CBS HD and THE CW are pretty much unwatchable.

RMartin631
12-23-07, 02:38 PM
They're off the air as of 2:40.

bamajeep
12-23-07, 03:31 PM
I just got home and thought it was something with my antenna when CBS wasn't coming in very well.

jamieh1
12-23-07, 03:43 PM
Here in Washington bad or no signal OTA.
Checked my QAM feed thru suddenlink and its off as well.

jspENC
12-23-07, 04:08 PM
Everything seems to be back to normal, as of 4:09 PM

Electrico
12-23-07, 11:46 PM
Congratulations ECU!

jamieh1
12-24-07, 10:19 PM
Cant get any closer than that, winning field goal with seconds to go.

jamieh1
12-26-07, 04:34 PM
So what new gadgets did everone get this christmas?



This is one of the 1st years that I didnt get any gadgets, got a new tool set and some shirts and pants.
Thought my was was getting me a GPS, but to my surprise she didnt.

I did get her a Sony Cyber Shot 7.2 MP digital camera.
She got the gadget this year.

Electrico
12-27-07, 12:23 AM
Would you believe next Saturday the Pats-Giants game will be on these three networks simultaneously CBS, NBC and the NFL Network. This is a first for a prime time show let alone a sports event. I will be watching it on CH 9 because it has a good PQ and the 5.1 sound. I may watch it on CH.7 if John Madden and Al Michaels are the announcers!

VARTV
12-27-07, 07:25 AM
Would you believe next Saturday the Pats-Giants game will be on these three networks simultaneously CBS, NBC and the NFL Network. This is a first for a prime time show let alone a sports event. I will be watching it on CH 9 because it has a good PQ and the 5.1 sound. I may watch it on CH.7 if John Madden and Al Michaels are the announcers!It's a pure simulcast of NFL Network. You're getting Gumbel and Collinsworth...

Electrico
12-27-07, 08:48 AM
It's a pure simulcast of NFL Network. You're getting Gumbel and Collinsworth...
Do you care to explain yourself Mr. Corbin? Please don't insult my intelligence. I have watched the NFL network before and I am clearly aware that Mr. Gumbel and Mr. Collinsworth do the play by play for the NFL network.
Thank you

VARTV
12-27-07, 08:51 AM
Do you care to explain yourself Mr. Corbin? Please don't insult my intelligence. I have watched the NFL network before and I am clearly aware that Mr. Gumbel and Mr. Collinsworth do the play by play for the NFL network.
Thank youAre you kidding? Why would you say "Please don't insult my intelligence." It's a pure simulcast. You say you "may" watch 7 if it was Madden and Michaels. I was clearly stating that will NOT be happening. That's it. Not implying you're an idiot.

You'll see AND hear the same thing on NFL Network, NBC and CBS... Jeez...

NewsNiner
12-27-07, 07:23 PM
Are you kidding? Why would you say "Please don't insult my intelligence." It's a pure simulcast. You say you "may" watch 7 if it was Madden and Michaels. I was clearly stating that will NOT be happening. That's it. Not implying you're an idiot.

You'll see AND hear the same thing on NFL Network, NBC and CBS... Jeez...

The TODAY Show, which last time I checked was on NBC, made mention this morning that former TODAY Show co-anchor Bryant Gumbel would be doing the play-by-play. So I guess that does make it a true simulcast.

si·mul·cast /ˈsaɪməlˌkæst, ‑ˌkɑst, ˈsɪməl‑/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sahy-muhl-kast, ‑kahst, sim-uhl‑] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -cast, -cast·ed, -cast·ing.
–noun 1. a program broadcast simultaneously on radio and television, or on more than one station, or in several languages, etc.
2. a closed-circuit television broadcast of an event, as a horse race, while it is taking place.
–verb (used with object), verb (used without object) 3. to broadcast in this manner.

Since it's never been done before on the network level, I guess they'll have to update the dictionary now.:)

VARTV
12-27-07, 08:32 PM
The TODAY Show, which last time I checked was on NBC, made mention this morning that former TODAY Show co-anchor Bryant Gumbel would be doing the play-by-play. So I guess that does make it a true simulcast.

Since it's never been done before on the network level, I guess they'll have to update the dictionary now.:)I did hear that CBS and NBC will sell 18 30-second spots...

easternncnewswat
12-27-07, 09:46 PM
Anybody know if this game will be presented in HD? I've read several articles about it today, but I don't recall this being mentioned.

VARTV
12-27-07, 09:52 PM
Anybody know if this game will be presented in HD? I've read several articles about it today, but I don't recall this being mentioned.Yes, it'll be in HD...

jamieh1
12-28-07, 08:06 AM
Directv added 2 more HD channels this morning.

TENNIS CHANNEL HD
CSTV HD

VARTV
12-28-07, 08:15 AM
Directv added 2 more HD channels this morning.

TENNIS CHANNEL HD
CSTV HDAnd it's a shame that they are both stretching the picture for SD content... :mad: :mad:

jspENC
12-29-07, 05:13 PM
My new gadget is a 1000 channel Desktop scanner. It picks up WITN, WNCT, and WCTI. I'm guessing analog, but not sure.

WITN 179.7500
WNCT 191.7500
WCTI 209.7500

I can't hear any static on either of these, so maybe that means it's digital.

foxeng
12-29-07, 05:18 PM
I'm guessing analog, but not sure.

WITN 179.7500
WNCT 191.7500
WCTI 209.7500


That is analog. Those are the analog aural frequencies for channels 7,9 and 12. The only way you would hear the digital is if the scanner picked up ATSC, which I VERY highly doubt plus you would need to be on 192.31 for WNCT and 578.31 for WITN and 674.31 for WCTI.

jspENC
12-29-07, 10:36 PM
Those are analog. I checked the TV and the audio matched the analog channels, so it is definetely analog. They are very strong though, no static at all.

foxeng
12-30-07, 09:56 AM
...no static at all.

F-M! Steely Dan from the 1977 movie "FM" (it is because it is FM)

jspENC
12-30-07, 10:08 AM
I found UNC TV, three of them, not sure which ones, and an ABC station I haven't figured out yet. It's not WWAY, could be WTVD I guess.

jspENC
12-30-07, 01:01 PM
I hooked the scanner to my outdoor UHF TV antenna. It's picking up a bunch of TV stations. 475.8000 is a PBS.

foxeng
12-30-07, 01:24 PM
NTSC Channel Allocation

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---------------- VHF HIGH------------
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69 800-806 801.25 804.8295 805.75

jspENC
12-30-07, 01:47 PM
NTSC Channel Allocation

CH BAND VIDEO CHROMA AUDIO
---------------- VHF LO--------------
2 54- 60 55.25 58.8295 59.75
3 60- 66 61.25 64.8295 65.75
4 66- 72 67.25 70.8295 71.75
5 76- 82 77.25 80.8295 81.75
6 82- 88 83.25 86.8295 87.75
---------------- VHF HIGH------------
7 174-180 175.25 178.8295 179.75
8 180-186 181.25 184.8295 185.75
9 186-192 187.25 190.8295 191.75
10 192-198 193.25 196.8295 197.75
11 198-204 199.25 202.8295 203.75
12 204-210 205.25 208.8295 209.75
13 210-216 211.25 214.8295 215.75
-----------------UHF-----------------
14 470-476 471.25 474.8295 475.75
15 476-482 477.25 480.8295 481.75
16 482-488 483.25 486.8295 487.75
17 488-494 489.25 492.8295 493.75
18 494-500 495.25 498.8295 499.75
19 500-506 501.25 504.8295 505.75
20 506-512 507.25 510.8295 511.75
21 512-518 513.25 516.8295 517.75
22 518-524 519.25 522.8295 523.75
23 524-530 525.25 528.8295 529.75
24 530-536 531.25 534.8295 535.75
25 536-542 537.25 540.8295 541.75
26 542-548 543.25 546.8295 547.75
27 548-554 549.25 552.8295 553.75
28 554-560 555.25 558.8295 559.75
29 560-566 561.25 564.8295 565.75
30 566-572 567.25 570.8295 571.75
31 572-578 573.25 576.8295 577.75
32 578-584 579.25 582.8295 583.75
33 584-590 585.25 588.8295 589.75
34 590-596 591.25 594.8295 595.75
35 596-602 597.25 600.8295 601.75
36 602-608 603.25 606.8295 607.75
37 608-614 609.25 612.8295 613.75
38 614-620 615.25 618.8295 619.75
39 620-626 621.25 624.8295 625.75
40 626-632 627.25 630.8295 631.75
41 632-638 633.25 636.8295 637.75
42 638-644 639.25 642.8295 643.75
43 644-650 645.25 648.8295 649.75
44 650-656 651.25 654.8295 655.75
45 656-662 657.25 660.8295 661.75
46 662-668 663.25 666.8295 667.75
47 668-674 669.25 672.8295 673.75
48 674-680 675.25 678.8295 679.75
49 680-686 681.25 684.8295 685.75
50 686-692 687.25 690.8295 691.75
51 692-698 693.25 696.8295 697.75
52 698-704 699.25 702.8295 703.75
53 704-710 705.25 708.8295 709.75
54 710-716 711.25 714.8295 715.75
55 716-722 717.25 720.8295 721.75
56 722-728 723.25 726.8295 727.75
57 728-734 729.25 732.8295 733.75
58 734-740 735.25 738.8295 739.75
59 740-746 741.25 744.8295 745.75
60 746-752 747.25 750.8295 751.75
61 752-758 753.25 756.8295 757.75
62 758-764 759.25 762.8295 763.75
63 764-770 765.25 768.8295 769.75
64 770-776 771.25 774.8295 775.75
65 776-782 777.25 780.8295 781.75
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67 788-794 789.25 792.8295 793.75
68 794-800 795.25 798.8295 799.75
69 800-806 801.25 804.8295 805.75


Thanks! I've got so much coming in I have no idea where it is all coming from. :D

RMartin631
01-01-08, 06:12 AM
Digital convertor box coupons are now available. I'm sure we all know of someone who can use them so let's get the word out. A whole bunch of my neighbors need them.

www.dtv2009.gov or 1-888-388-2009 is where you get them.

harperjj04
01-01-08, 01:32 PM
Today has got to be a HD lovers dream with all these Bowl games on!

I do have a question though. I have Dish with a 622 HD DVR. I recently got a replacement reciever because my hard drive on my other one failed :( I was surprised when I was scanning in my HD locals and I recieved WYDO-HD on 14.1. Funny thing is, WFXI on 8.1 has been working horribly for the past 2-3 weeks getting 100% signal but having a blank screen.

The picture quality on 14.1 is great, but the problem is that it has no guide info like 8.1 still does. Does anyone know how to fix that. It crucial for that info to be there to making recording easier, but at least you can create a manual timer. Thanks in advance!

jspENC
01-01-08, 02:53 PM
I have a picture on 8.1 - That is really weird. I have had guide problems with 8 though. Of course I seem to have problems with just about all the channels at times.

And I hate that the CW doesn't give anything but "The CW" as guide datA.

jspENC
01-01-08, 03:11 PM
According to http://wnct.com tonight will be the first night of Eyewitness 9 news on ENC's CW 9.2 at 10PM

So what will be on WFXI at 10???

easternncnewswat
01-01-08, 03:18 PM
A bowl game...

easternncnewswat
01-01-08, 03:19 PM
And I hate that the CW doesn't give anything but "The CW" as guide date.

Me too... I'll let someone know about it.

jspENC
01-01-08, 03:32 PM
Me too... I'll let someone know about it.

Cool. Thanks eastern!

easternncnewswat
01-01-08, 03:44 PM
Cool. Thanks eastern!

Anytime, jsp...

To answer your other question... Since the cat is now officially out of the bag, yes, WNCT will launch Eyewitness News 9 on the CW tonight at 10PM.

I assume we'll see news on Fox 8/14 from another source. Fox 8/14 was entertaining other offers once the deal with CTI, presumably, fell through. So, another outlet will take over doing the News at Ten on Fox.

I don't know when they'll launch... The first available date on my program guide through Dish indicates Friday night at 10. There are bowl games on tonight, Wednesday and Thursday. There is another game scheduled for next Monday. Unless, of course, they launch after these games beginning tonight...

Whether you'll see another station launch news on Fox 8/14 tonight, tomorrow, Thursday, Friday, etc... is anybody's guess.

I can't imagine they'll want to be off the air for too long...

jspENC
01-01-08, 05:35 PM
Will Gary be doing the CW 10PM news?

Doesn't FOX 8/14 have to provide a news segment?

I wonder how ENCTV will respond to two other live sources now available for news at 10? Seems there wouldn't be much of a need for them to continue to show a re-run of the 6PM newscast over there. How all this unfolds should be quite interesting...

I'm glad to see however that this market is becoming so competitive, both in radio and TV. Many changes are happening on the radio dials also. HOT FM is finished,(I used to listen to them a bunch, especially in the 90's) and KOOL FM is back, and on 94.1 - 94.3 is now a talk station, 1070 AM is making changes, WTKF FM (talk radio) on WFXI's tower is raising it's power and WKOO is moving and boosting power I've read... A lot to keep up with the times I guess, and the population is expected to explode this year. 2008 looks like a fun year!

Ken12
01-01-08, 07:39 PM
It's going to be an interesting year

Ken

jamieh1
01-01-08, 07:46 PM
WWE Fans

Raw goes HD next Monday according to program guide.
WWE Royal Rumble will be the 1st PPV.

easternncnewswat
01-01-08, 08:21 PM
Will Gary be doing the CW 10PM news?

Doesn't FOX 8/14 have to provide a news segment?

I wonder how ENCTV will respond to two other live sources now available for news at 10? Seems there wouldn't be much of a need for them to continue to show a re-run of the 6PM newscast over there. How all this unfolds should be quite interesting...




jsp,

I don't know that they HAVE to provide news. I don't think anyone is REQUIRED to run news. Would that want to continue? Most definitely, I think.

I'm not sure about ENCTV... I've heard some noise that CTI's purchase of Fox DID go through... Thus, they would be doing the News at Ten. I've also heard that ITN would be doing the News at Ten, which would confirm that CTI's deal fell through.

Until someone can set the record straight, I guess we won't know until the News at Ten premieres on Fox 8/14.

But definitely should be an interesting year nonetheless.

jspENC
01-01-08, 09:14 PM
I heard the scoop tonight on Gary, so I know he won't be doing the news. He can't I guess because of his past illness, and said something about selling cars.

easternncnewswat
01-01-08, 09:48 PM
I heard the scoop tonight on Gary, so I know he won't be doing the news. He can't I guess because of his past illness, and said something about selling cars.

Yeah, Gary will be over at Hasting's Ford and is looking forward to the folks in the east coming out and seeing him. You should! :)

PleaseStandBy
01-01-08, 10:04 PM
Will Gary be doing the CW 10PM news?

Doesn't FOX 8/14 have to provide a news segment?

I wonder how ENCTV will respond to two other live sources now available for news at 10? Seems there wouldn't be much of a need for them to continue to show a re-run of the 6PM newscast over there. How all this unfolds should be quite interesting...

I'm glad to see however that this market is becoming so competitive, both in radio and TV. Many changes are happening on the radio dials also. HOT FM is finished,(I used to listen to them a bunch, especially in the 90's) and KOOL FM is back, and on 94.1 - 94.3 is now a talk station, 1070 AM is making changes, WTKF FM (talk radio) on WFXI's tower is raising it's power and WKOO is moving and boosting power I've read... A lot to keep up with the times I guess, and the population is expected to explode this year. 2008 looks like a fun year!

Looks like a re-processed Eyewitness News for 10 pm. Kara Lusk anchored.

Gary Dean retired Monday night and said something about going into car sales. On the same day word is that the WCTI/Fox deal was back on and was finalized...so it will be interesting to see how quickly they can put a newscast on at 10.

jamieh1
01-01-08, 10:11 PM
ENCTV news at 10 is not on, Inside Edition is on instead.

cozmo1976
01-02-08, 10:14 AM
WWE Fans

Raw goes HD next Monday according to program guide.
WWE Royal Rumble will be the 1st PPV.


Cool, I had heard rumors that they were going HD this year.

jamieh1
01-02-08, 01:57 PM
Just got a update on WYDO/WFXI from Don Fisher.
He said the deal did go thru, it was Finalized on Monday. Also there will be a 10p news, but he does not have any details at the moment.

avs0208
01-02-08, 02:09 PM
I understand the whole HD and bandwidth issue, but can The CW in HD be piped into Suddenlink without over the air transmission?

jspENC
01-02-08, 02:39 PM
Just got a update on WYDO/WFXI from Don Fisher.
He said the deal did go thru, it was Finalized on Monday. Also there will be a 10p news, but he does not have any details at the moment.

Great news. I can't wait to see what kind of changes are made. I wonder if they will give us something on a sub channel now? I'm still waiting for a radar from someone...:D

easternncnewswat
01-02-08, 03:01 PM
Great news. I can't wait to see what kind of changes are made. I wonder if they will give us something on a sub channel now? I'm still waiting for a radar from someone...:D

I swear the equipment is there for 9.3... Don't know why it's not on. :p

easternncnewswat
01-02-08, 03:02 PM
I understand the whole HD and bandwidth issue, but can The CW in HD be piped into Suddenlink without over the air transmission?

I can always ask. I don't know the technicalities of that.

VARTV
01-02-08, 03:51 PM
Great news. I can't wait to see what kind of changes are made. I wonder if they will give us something on a sub channel now? I'm still waiting for a radar from someone...:DWhy in the world would you want a station to run subchannels?

jspENC
01-02-08, 05:03 PM
One subchannel doesn't bother me. I haven't seen anyone complaining about PQ. The Raleigh channels are running three per station, which is a bit much however.

easternncnewswat
01-02-08, 05:18 PM
One subchannel doesn't bother me. I haven't seen anyone complaining about PQ. The Raleigh channels are running three per station, which is a bit much however.

Yeah, that's honestly why I don't want to see 9.3 become active. Since CBS is 1080i, I just don't think it could be supported without killing pq. The only way to feasibly do it is to drop down to 720 like ABC and Fox. Personally, I just don't want to see that happen. I miss VIPIR, but I can live without it. JMHO

jspENC
01-02-08, 05:41 PM
No I don't want to see PQ cut down. I guess it would be better to have the radar on 12 or 8

jspENC
01-02-08, 07:20 PM
It's going to be an interesting year

Ken

Ken,

Have you lined up the basketball again this season? It should be about that time.:)

easternncnewswat
01-02-08, 09:44 PM
No I don't want to see PQ cut down. I guess it would be better to have the radar on 12 or 8

Personally, I have to agree with that. Besides, they have the bandwith to do it now! :D

VARTV
01-03-08, 07:44 AM
No I don't want to see PQ cut down. I guess it would be better to have the radar on 12 or 8Our ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX stations all USED to do one sub channel. Not anymore. The PQ looks better during sports. Do all the major stations in Raleigh run with at least one subchannel?

jspENC
01-03-08, 09:02 AM
In Raleigh... FOX 3 subs, CBS 2 (sometimes more) NBC 3 subs, ABC 3 subs, CW no, MyTV no, PBS, 4

VARTV
01-03-08, 09:03 AM
In Raleigh... FOX 3 subs, CBS 2 (sometimes more) NBC 3 subs, ABC 3 subs, CW no, MyTV no, PBS, 4Good grief!!

foxeng
01-03-08, 01:18 PM
Good grief!!

Actually, WRAL (CBS) and WRAZ (FOX) look very good. WTVD (ABC) and WNCN (NBC) don't always look so good.

easternncnewswat
01-03-08, 02:36 PM
Yeah, WNCN really doesn't look that great... I think it's cause WxPlus has to have a fixed bandwith. Their secondary is just a simulcast of 17.1; it ought to be killed anyway.

I always thought to be running 3 channels, TVD looks pretty good. Most of the time it is news repeats or radar on 11.2. 11.3 is that ABC Accuweather channel. Don't flame me, but I still miss ABC News Now. I used to love the simulcasts of breaking news from across the country. JMHO

WRAL and WRAZ always look good. Wonder why? Haha!

Ken12
01-03-08, 04:27 PM
Ken,

Have you lined up the basketball again this season? It should be about that time.:)
They have. I don't follow the games much but there will be a few on WCTI in HD

Ken

jspENC
01-03-08, 05:21 PM
Thanks Ken. I'm sure the Tournament will be in HD again too. That is always on 12.1

Electrico
01-03-08, 06:27 PM
Rose Bowl:
USC 49
Il 17
Go Trojans! Will play any team, anywhere anytime>Pete Carroll USC HC

2020eyes
01-04-08, 11:37 AM
Hey guys ..I need some opinions :) My father is moving to G'ville from Raleigh and is going to be living off Langston Farm Road. We're going to update his HTS to HD. He's having a tough time deciding on DTV or suddenlink. He currently has tivo and needs to upgrade to Tivo HD or a DVRHD. I'm kind of pushing for DTV and trying to pull local stations with an OTA..Any easy suggestions on antennae or even rabbitt ears in that area ? Also does anyone know how that antenna that you attach to the DTV dish works ? Something easy to put up . Thks

jamieh1
01-04-08, 01:37 PM
I would recommend Directv over Suddenlink.
All your channels are digital and youll get more channels.
With Suddenlink youll have to pay different fees for digital cable.
STANDARD DIGITAL RECVR $4.25/M
HD RECVR $9.95/M
DVR $9.95/M
HD DVR $9.95

DVR SERVICE $4.95/M

DIGITAL GATEWAY $5.95/M ** THIS IS JUST TO GET ACCESS TO DIGITAL CABLE(PPV CHANNELS 46 MUSIC CHOICE CHANNELS)

Analog basic channels $48/month

then add digital
packages $12.50 up to $28.95/m

HD package $7.95/m
HDNET, HDNET MOVIES, A&E, HGTV HD, FOOD HDTV, FSN SOUTH, ESPN, ESPN2, TNTHD, TBS HD, NAT GEO HD, HD THEATHER

*********************************************************
DIRECTV

ALL BASIC CHANNELS 200+ $54.99 ($44.99) FIRST YR
ADD HD ACCESS 85+ HD CHANNELS
HD EXTRA PACK$4.99 MGMHD, HDNET MOVIES, SMITHSONIAN CH HD, MHD,\ UNIVERSAL HD

DVR SERVICE $5.99/M COVERS ALL DVR'S ON THE ACCT.
EXTRA RECEIVERS $4.99 MONTH

LOCAL CHANNELS INCLUDED IN PACKAGES
WITN NBC
WNCT CBS
WCTI ABC
WYDO FOX
WNCT DT2 THE CW
WUNK UNCTV/PBS

Over the air antenna will seamlessly intergrate into the directv HD dvr program guide.
In Greenville you should get all the Raliegh digital channels via antenna.
I recommend the channel master 4228
small, but is one of the strongest antennas out there.

Channels you should recieve ota in Greenville

WRAL 5.1 5.2
WITN 7.1 7.2
WNCT 9.1 9.2
WTVD 11.1 11.2 11.3
WCTI 12.1 12.3
WYDO 14.1 14.2
WNCN 17.1 17.2 17.3
WUNM 19.1-19.5
WLFL 22.1
WUNK 25.1-25.5
WRDC 28.1
WRAY 30.1
WRAZ 50.1 50.2 50.3

May get a few more. This is what I get in Washington.

Directv offers more HD channels than anyother provider.

2020eyes
01-04-08, 02:25 PM
yeah ..that's the way I've been thinking...only direct tv local isn't HD..that's why i was asking about antenna......can you mount it in the attic or roof and would I need a rotor to turn to get all locals ? where can you get a channel master at ?

2020eyes
01-04-08, 02:26 PM
by the way ..thks

Ken12
01-04-08, 02:55 PM
Here is the games we will on. The E is ENC TV and will not be in HD.

SAT Jan. 12 2:00 PM Maryland at Virginia Tech
2:00 PM E Georgia Tech at Miami
TUES Jan. 15 9:00 PM E Wake Forest at Maryland
SAT Jan. 19 1:00 PM E Virginia Tech at Georgia Tech
8:00 PM E Boston College at Virginia
8:00 PM Miami at NC State
SUN Jan. 20 1:00 PM Florida State at Wake Forest
WED Jan. 23 9:00 PM UNC at Miami
SAT Jan. 26 1:30 PM NC State at Florida State
4:00 PM Virginia Tech at Boston College
SUN Jan. 27 1:00 PM E Clemson at Miami

THU Jan. 31 9:00 PM NC State at Duke (HD)
SAT Feb. 2 1:00 PM E Virginia at Virginia Tech
SUN Feb. 3 12:00 PM Wake Forest at NC State
WED Feb. 6 9:00 PM Duke at UNC (HD)
SAT Feb. 9 8:00 PM NC State at Maryland (HD)
TUE Feb. 12 8:00 PM UNC at Virginia (HD)
THU Feb. 14 9:00 PM E Wake Forest at Florida State
SAT Feb. 16 3:00 PM E Florida State at Maryland
3:00 PM Clemson at NC State
SUN Feb. 17 1:00 PM Virginia at Boston College
1:00 PM E Miami at Georgia Tech
WED Feb. 20 9:00 PM E Duke at Miami
SAT Feb. 23 2:00 PM E Maryland at Miami
2:00 PM Georgia Tech at Virginia Tech

THU Feb. 28 8:00 PM E Maryland at Wake Forest
SAT Mar. 1 2:00 PM E Wake Forest at Georgia Tech
TUE Mar. 4 8:00 PM Florida State at UNC
SAT Mar. 8 12:00 PM E Miami at Forida State
12:00 PM NC State at Wake Forest
SUN Mar. 9 1:30 PM Virginia Tech at Clemson

ACC Tournament Games

THU Mar. 13 12:00 N E ACC Tournament Opening Round Game (HD)
2:30 PM E ACC Tournament Opening Round Game (HD)
9:30 PM ACC Tournament Opening Round Game (HD)
FRI Mar. 14 12:00 N ACC Tournament Quarterfinals (HD)
2:30 PM ACC Tournament Quarterfinals (HD)
7:00 PM ACC Tournament Quarterfinals (HD)
9:30 PM ACC Tournament Quarterfinals (HD)
SAT Mar. 15 1:30 PM ACC Tournament Semifinals (HD)
4:00 PM ACC Tournament Semifinals (HD)
SUN Mar. 16 12:30 PM ACC Tournament Championship (HD)

I had it laid out better but it changed when I posted it sorry

Ken

jspENC
01-04-08, 03:30 PM
I'm printing those out. Thanks Ken!

jspENC
01-04-08, 03:32 PM
yeah ..that's the way I've been thinking...only direct tv local isn't HD..that's why i was asking about antenna......can you mount it in the attic or roof and would I need a rotor to turn to get all locals ? where can you get a channel master at ?

I'm thinking you will need the rotor. The 4228 is a good choice. It should do fine for VHF.

Electrico
01-04-08, 03:53 PM
The ACC is a roundball conference. UVA is playing USC next season with UVA the home team. It won't make any difference the Trojans will whip the Cavaliers!

RMartin631
01-05-08, 02:25 PM
This is off topic but...

One of the most striking differences between where I moved from 19 months ago (MD) and here is how much attention high school and college sports get here. Back in MD you really only paid attention to these teams if you had kids there or had attended there. Here everybody watches all of the teams all of the time.

Go Redskins! 4:00 PM today on WITN if anybody cares.

mattcombs
01-06-08, 09:30 AM
Hey all,

We're moving from Cape Carteret to Swansboro, and I was wondering if anyone has any tips or suggestions on OTA from there. Right now I've got a big CM UHF/VHF antenna on the roof (can't remember the model, but it's a big one from RShack) with rotor.
Right now I don't get WITN (on the fringe for this one, ~50% signal)or WFXI in DT, but do get ABC, CBS, PBS ok.

Before I start siting and testing, I was wondering if anyone in the area has any experience they might share to keep from wasting a lot of time & $ on ideas that won't work. I'm pretty sure that WFXI is out of the question, but WITN should be doable.

Unfortunately the family won't allow the antenna on top of the house , so I'll be putting it and the dish on a pole. Well, until they realize that they may not get the HD they're looking for with it being on a pole.

Anyway, I'm always looking for new ideas and experience. Thanks

jspENC
01-06-08, 10:45 AM
Matt,
I'm much further from you and get WFXI, so it should be receivable. Use a channel master 4221 for WCTI, WITN, and PBS. You will most likely need the rotor for WFXI. Someone very close to you has very good luck using a DB-4 style such as this. For WNCT, use an antennacraft Y-10 VHF only. This will also be needed for WCTI and WFXI once Feb 17, 09 gets here.

Hopefully the poster who lives just up the road from you will see this soon on here and relay his results. He is using three antennas, and has everything working but WFXI. Maybe he can figure out what the trouble is with that and point you in the best direction to go, but I'm thinking a rotor would be best. That's the way I tune them in, and I'm in Jacksonville.

jspENC
01-07-08, 09:11 AM
I couldn't get the WNCT signal this morning. There must be a problem somewhere...

easternncnewswat
01-07-08, 05:03 PM
I couldn't get the WNCT signal this morning. There must be a problem somewhere...

Must have been tropo... I wasn't having any problems; got an e-mail from someone in Fuquay Varina getting our signal this morning...

You getting it now?

jspENC
01-07-08, 06:29 PM
I fixed it! It was something with the wiring from the pre-amp power supply to the Splitter. I pulled the cables, and then screwed them back and everything is back to normal. I can't understand why 9 was the only channel affected by whatever the issue was? All I did was unscrew then rescrew the coax. There was nothing wrong with the fittings..

jeromeerome
01-07-08, 08:22 PM
Maybe somebody can help me with this problem. I live in a house in Winterville and use DishNetwork for my TVs. I have the local channel package which currently is not in high definition. I connected a set of Philips powered 40db rabbit ears to my Dish box to get my locals in HD for football games. I am getting 93%-98% signal strength on NBC 7.1 and CBS 9.1. I also have good signals from 9-2 CW and the UNC channels in the 25s. However for some reason I am unable to get FOX WYDO-DT at all. I can pick up the analog version of FOX on 14 but not the digital 14.1.

I checked Antennaweb.org and the FOX tower is the closest to me at only 9 miles away. The others are 13 miles away. Why can't I get a digital FOX signal? From what I have read here it should be possible to get this signal. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

jspENC
01-07-08, 08:42 PM
I think everyone but eastern that is getting 14.1 is using an outside antenna. (Channel Master 4228) WYDO is not on a full power signal.

easternncnewswat
01-07-08, 09:25 PM
I fixed it! It was something with the wiring from the pre-amp power supply to the Splitter. I pulled the cables, and then screwed them back and everything is back to normal. I can't understand why 9 was the only channel affected by whatever the issue was? All I did was unscrew then rescrew the coax. There was nothing wrong with the fittings..



SCRATCH THE POST BELOW!
I'm still not able to get it Eastern. All other channels are working fine. Even analog 9 looks weak. I hope there isn't some form of new interference that's popped up around here! Last week I noticed my signal on 9x's were quite a bit lower than normal, and today I have lost it totally. My TV acts like there is a signal on the air, but it's only like 30% according to it.


Hmm, not sure jsp... I'm getting good signal here in Gville, which is kinda one of those duh statements... One of the engineers went out to the transmitter today for the weekly check. Didn't hear of any problems.

You might hit Bertie up on our Contact Us page at the site. He would know if we blew a tube or something. Maybe some of the other guys here can let us know if they're having a problem receiving NCT.

easternncnewswat
01-07-08, 09:29 PM
Maybe somebody can help me with this problem. I live in a house in Winterville and use DishNetwork for my TVs. I have the local channel package which currently is not in high definition. I connected a set of Philips powered 40db rabbit ears to my Dish box to get my locals in HD for football games. I am getting 93%-98% signal strength on NBC 7.1 and CBS 9.1. I also have good signals from 9-2 CW and the UNC channels in the 25s. However for some reason I am unable to get FOX WYDO-DT at all. I can pick up the analog version of FOX on 14 but not the digital 14.1.

I checked Antennaweb.org and the FOX tower is the closest to me at only 9 miles away. The others are 13 miles away. Why can't I get a digital FOX signal? From what I have read here it should be possible to get this signal. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Yeah, I get WYDO with the same rabbit ears you're using. I have mine set at 4 out of 5 so I don't overload the signal. YDO is a little tricky but 9 times out of 10 I get it.

Maybe Ken12 can offer some advice; not sure if he's had a chance to look at the setup for YDO yet.

Failing that, you should be able to pull Fox 50 from RDU.

jspENC
01-07-08, 09:45 PM
Hmm, not sure jsp... I'm getting good signal here in Gville, which is kinda one of those duh statements... One of the engineers went out to the transmitter today for the weekly check. Didn't hear of any problems.

You might hit Bertie up on our Contact Us page at the site. He would know if we blew a tube or something. Maybe some of the other guys here can let us know if they're having a problem receiving NCT.

I'm getting it now just fine, both analog and digital. :)

mattcombs
01-07-08, 10:12 PM
Thanks, this helps.
A question about the VHF - will WCTI and WFXI go to UHF in '09?

Matt,
For WNCT, use an antennacraft Y-10 VHF only. This will also be needed for WCTI and WFXI once Feb 17, 09 gets here.



Anyway, i also have 2 other questions/issues - when I use multiple antennas, how do I join them together - preamp then combiner, combiner then preamp, or something else?

If you had to choose an antenna siting of 1)up high but in an attic or 2)outside but not nearly as high - which would you choose?

Thanks!

jspENC
01-08-08, 08:39 AM
WCTI and WFXI are on 48 and 24 (UHF) right now, and will revert back to 12 and 8 in early 2009. Use a channel master 0549 combiner to join a UHF and VHF antenna together. If you use a pre-amp, use the Channel Master 7777. With that you will not need a combiner.

I'd try the attic first, but see what the engineers say! I always heard higher is usually better.

jeromeerome
01-08-08, 04:53 PM
Yeah, I get WYDO with the same rabbit ears you're using. I have mine set at 4 out of 5 so I don't overload the signal. YDO is a little tricky but 9 times out of 10 I get it.

Maybe Ken12 can offer some advice; not sure if he's had a chance to look at the setup for YDO yet.

Failing that, you should be able to pull Fox 50 from RDU.
Where are you located in relation to the WYDO-DT tower? When I punch my address in Antennaweb it shows that station in the red requiring a mid-size directional antenna. For that reason I don't believe I will be able to get FOX in HD using just my current rabbit ears setup. This corresponds with jspENC suggesting the Channel Master 4228. Will that work if placed inside an attic or will this degrade the signal too much? Does anyone know why FOX is broadcasting at such a low power setting that I need a big antenna to get its lousy signal less than 10 miles away. Seems like a big waste of time if you ask me.

jspENC
01-08-08, 06:27 PM
Does anyone know why FOX is broadcasting at such a low power setting that I need a big antenna to get its lousy signal less than 10 miles away.

Financial issues. This goes back a long time. Recently, WFXI and WYDO were purchased by the company that owns WCTI. With this, we should start to see gradual improvements I think.
I don't know if you will get the signal in the attic. You could try sticking your rabbit ears up there first, and see what happens. Of course you will need additional RG-6 coax cable to test it out, but that isn't all that much money to start with, and if it doesn't work, you can return the cable easy enough. Lowes and Home Depot sell coax. Wal-mart also.

easternncnewswat
01-08-08, 08:35 PM
Where are you located in relation to the WYDO-DT tower? When I punch my address in Antennaweb it shows that station in the red requiring a mid-size directional antenna. For that reason I don't believe I will be able to get FOX in HD using just my current rabbit ears setup. This corresponds with jspENC suggesting the Channel Master 4228. Will that work if placed inside an attic or will this degrade the signal too much? Does anyone know why FOX is broadcasting at such a low power setting that I need a big antenna to get its lousy signal less than 10 miles away. Seems like a big waste of time if you ask me.

I'm not sure exactly how far I am away from the YDO tower... I'm off of Frog Level and Davenport Farm Road. It's down Thomas Langston which runs between Lowes and Home Depot.

You may just need to try different positions with your antenna until you find the "sweet spot" which will allow you to get everything.

You not having any luck with the RDU stations?

ballardkringle
01-08-08, 10:31 PM
I tuned to FOX 14 tonight and FOX News at 10 has been replaced with a rebroadcast of Newschannel 12 at 6. During a commercial break, it was announced that the new FOX Eastern Carolina News would start in February.

jamieh1
01-09-08, 12:06 PM
Directv added THE 101HD to the HD line up on Channel 101.

jspENC
01-09-08, 12:53 PM
I tuned to FOX 14 tonight and FOX News at 10 has been replaced with a rebroadcast of Newschannel 12 at 6. During a commercial break, it was announced that the new FOX Eastern Carolina News would start in February.

Too bad that they can't do like that radio station called "Thunder Country" does and say "twice the tower, twice the power"! Maybe one day! WFXI puts out more power right now than any other station though... although with the location they have it isn't maximized over land.

cozmo1976
01-09-08, 03:40 PM
Spike HD had CSI New York in HD last night. That was the first actual HD program I had seen on there. Has anyone else seen actual HD programming on Spike prior to last night at 11:00 PM?

Electrico
01-11-08, 01:35 AM
Too bad that they can't do like that radio station called "Thunder Country" does and say "twice the tower, twice the power"! Maybe one day! WFXI puts out more power right now than any other station though... although with the location they have it isn't maximized over land.
With 2009 going strictly HD would it make any difference or a reason to increase that power? You guys are experts , does that make any sense?
Thnx

foxeng
01-11-08, 08:09 AM
With 2009 going strictly HD would it make any difference or a reason to increase that power? You guys are experts , does that make any sense?
Thnx

First off, there are no rules requiring any station to broadcast HD, just digital. As far as full power, looking at the FCC datebase, WFXI-DT and WYDO-DT appear to be at full power. Post transition, both stations are to move back to their analog channels.

jspENC
01-11-08, 08:45 AM
Foxeng,

I think Ken said they were still not at full power on WYDO DT and I also read documentation that said they could continue on the lower power and "flash cut" on the 17th of 2009.

As for increasing power up to their CP, first they have to construct a brand new tower for WYDO according to the documentation I read. Whether or not they increase height would be the biggest difference in coverage I think. You can put out a ton of power, but if you don't clear terrain, it doesn't do you a bit of good.

VARTV
01-11-08, 08:57 AM
With 2009 going strictly HD would it make any difference or a reason to increase that power? You guys are experts , does that make any sense?
ThnxGet your facts straight... "strictly HD..." It's going digital in 2009 not "strictly HD..." :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

jspENC
01-11-08, 09:03 AM
Strictly HD would be nice, but won't happen for years I bet.

VARTV
01-11-08, 09:48 AM
Strictly HD would be nice, but won't happen for years I bet.I'm waiting to get flamed for my above reply to Electrico... LOL. There's sooooooooo much 4:3 content out there...

foxeng
01-11-08, 12:16 PM
Foxeng,

I think Ken said they were still not at full power on WYDO DT and I also read documentation that said they could continue on the lower power and "flash cut" on the 17th of 2009.

That doesn't surprise me the database is wrong. They are still listing a CP for us that was modified and has been issued a license already! Go figure!

jspENC
01-11-08, 01:43 PM
WECT Wilmington was the only television station in Eastern NC to air the entire press conference on the now deceased Marine. Some of the satellite news channels covered most of it, with Fox news channel calling our Sheriff Ed Brown, "Ed Bowden" or something along those lines. How hard is it to say "Brown"??

PleaseStandBy
01-11-08, 09:14 PM
WECT Wilmington was the only television station in Eastern NC to air the entire press conference on the now deceased Marine. Some of the satellite news channels covered most of it, with Fox news channel calling our Sheriff Ed Brown, "Ed Bowden" or something along those lines. How hard is it to say "Brown"??

It was the domino effect today at noon. First WCTI dropped out exactly at 12:30....WNCT hung on for a few minutes into the next half hour, and then WITN pulled the plug minutes after WNCT did. Do you think they watch each other and see who is going to go out first? LOL!

In fairness, I think WNCT & WITN told viewers they could continue watching the news conference on their web sites.

jspENC
01-11-08, 09:29 PM
I do think they watch what one another does. During Severe weather also... I just think one station in the market should have carried the whole thing, at least one. Only carrying half was like half doing something... (in my opinion) Don't want to piss off anyone, just trying to express what the viewing audience as a whole must have been thinking.

This case is big news.

beanpod
01-11-08, 09:45 PM
Well the kids just excitedly approached me about WWE ad for HD Smackdown on CW in 2 weeks. Had to disappoint them with "our CW doesn't broadcast in HD" response. If this was an incorrect response, please let me know. If not, anyone know if 9.2 has plans to broadcast HD in the future...and if so, when??? Thanks.

jamieh1
01-11-08, 10:40 PM
NO, Only one HD channel, and CBS is on it. CW on 9.2 will stay SD.

Try to get CW22 from Ral-Durham.

Also on Directv HD USA HD Monday Night Raw.

foxeng
01-12-08, 12:27 AM
I do think they watch what one another does.

Stations in competition with each other for news DO watch each other for stories they don't have and breaking news. Part of the biz.

avs0208
01-15-08, 10:04 AM
For all you guys with antenna issues.... If you would like to know more about the electronics and theory side of radio communications you may want to check out amateur radio. I am currently a licensed Technician looking to upgrade to General soon. I have learned more about antenna theory studying for the General test than any other way. I know radio and TV are two different things, but they both are governed by the same electronics theory. My latest thing has been working the amateur LEO (low earth orbit) satellites. I use a hand held 5 watt 2m/70cm (this is the same VHF/UHF area of the frequency spectrum TV is broadcasted in, but in the amateur bands) transceiver with a handheld yagi antenna. I have talked to people in Florida, Mexico, New York, Texas, and Wisconsin from right here in Winterville, NC! Let me know if you like more information.

ballardkringle
01-15-08, 08:29 PM
American Idol was not in HD on FOX 8/14 on cable in Greenville tonight!
:(

jspENC
01-15-08, 09:03 PM
I'm watching on WSFX FOX 26. As soon as the next break airs I will check WFXI.

Just switched to 8.1 and it is in HD

easternncnewswat
01-15-08, 10:15 PM
I was surprised that American Idol at least during the first quarter at 8 was not HD on Fox 14. Switched to Fox 50 for the remainder of the show.

As a side note, I like the Fox Eastern Carolina branding. Looks much better than the old Fox 8/14 logo. :)

ballardkringle
01-16-08, 09:32 AM
I also wanted to mention that the rebroadcast of the Newschannel 12 at 6 on WYDO has been a poor quality transmission for the last couple of nights. I look forward to FOX Eastern Carolina News in February. Anyone heard any details on that? :o

jspENC
01-16-08, 09:45 AM
It's been poor quality out of Morehead City too. Maybe Ken12 has some info on FOX Carolina? Are they going to be in the Morehead office or in WCTI's studio is what I'm wondering? I like the logo too.

jspENC
01-16-08, 10:00 AM
This site is really helpful. It shows the reception capability of any call sign you put in, then just select analog or digital. I've found that if you are in the dark blue, you don't get the signal, and purple is almost impossible. Light blue however comes in just fine on back to the red and white.

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=80

jspENC
01-16-08, 04:17 PM
WFXI:appears to be off the air?

RMartin631
01-17-08, 03:48 PM
Typical Fox 8/14. You never know when it will work and if it does it may or may not work right.

jspENC
01-17-08, 04:27 PM
It's off the air right now. They may be on the tower working with WTKF's antenna, and cut the power down. It was on last night.

arkansized
01-19-08, 10:18 PM
I am using rabbit ears (temporarily) and receive beautiful signals from all the DTV channels broadcasting over UHF frequencies. WNCT broadcasts DTV on channel 10 and it is the only channel I cannot receive. My understanding is the signal is broadcast from the same tower as WITN, which has great reception here in Swansboro.
Any one have any ideas why there's no reception of 9.1 (VHF 10) here? I have tried several different rabbit ears-type antennas, but no joy.

jamieh1
01-20-08, 12:04 AM
Started getting sleet around 9 here in Washington, Snow started pretty good around 11p, at 12a covering deck and cars. Large flakes.

jspENC
01-20-08, 10:31 AM
I am using rabbit ears (temporarily) and receive beautiful signals from all the DTV channels broadcasting over UHF frequencies. WNCT broadcasts DTV on channel 10 and it is the only channel I cannot receive. My understanding is the signal is broadcast from the same tower as WITN, which has great reception here in Swansboro.

Any one have any ideas why there's no reception of 9.1 (VHF 10) here? I have tried several different rabbit ears-type antennas, but no joy.

I'm in Jacksonville, I've tried rabbit ears, and they worked a little in one room for WNCT, but in the living room, nothing. Rabbit ears generally work within about 10 miles or so. After that, you need a real antenna. I use a channel master 4221 bow tie style and get every channel on the air except 14.1--I recommend you get either a Channel Master 4228, or even better a 4221 and a VHF special such as Antennacraft Y-10. Swansboro is a bit low in elevation, so you need a good antenna and a bit of height 20-25 ft.for the signals to be problem free.

What other channels do you get? I use a rotator and get the following...

WWAY x 2 Wilmington (strong)

WECT x 2 Wilmington (weak)

WITN x 2 (strong)

WFXI (weak to moderate)

WNCT x 2 (moderate because I use UHF antenna)

WCTI x 2 (strong)

PBS 19 x 5 (strong)

WRDC (MyNetwork HD) Raleigh (at night)

WSFX x 2 Wilmington (strong)

WPXU (MyNetwork) x 4 Topsail Beach (strong)

PBS 39 x 5 Wilmington (strong)

I can keep my antenna pointed at the Wilmington antenna farms and pick up everything but 7 and 8. When I want those, I have to rotate. When I'm pointed at 7,9,12- I can pick up WWAY-3.1 off the back side just fine.

mattcombs
01-20-08, 06:22 PM
I just set up a Channel Master 4228 / CM 7777 preamp in the second story attic in Swansboro. Wow! Great signal, even in the attic. Will need a rotator to get WFXI along with the others. Note that *right now* I can use the 4228 for all channels, including 9. I saw a site that showed that the 4228 was ok at picking up some VHF as well. In this particular case, it works! We'll see what happens when broadcasters send their digital signals "back down" in the VHF band. With this, I'll wait until next year to worry about another (VHF) antenna. Actually I'll probably find out sooner as I forgot about other (non-digital) TVs in the house, and will need to get a signal to them as well.
Will broadcasters who are currently broadcasting both UHF & VHF keep both?

Seems that my problem in Cape Carteret was a need for a preamp. I thought I had one in the system. Oops. the 7777 sent the signals for all channels through the roof! No additional channels, but great signals on the ones I want.... I'm happy to see Packers/Giants in HD.....woohoo!

ncgbrown
01-20-08, 06:44 PM
No NFC Championchip game in HD?

dan02gt
01-20-08, 06:47 PM
I'm asking the same thing. What the hell is going on with Fox in the last week. It even said in high def at the start of the game. I'm on Suddenlink by the way.

ncgbrown
01-20-08, 06:50 PM
SD in OTA and Suddenlink - how about Fox 50 in Raleigh - is that HD - I might can turn my antenna at halftime

2020eyes
01-20-08, 07:21 PM
Anybody know if they''ll get it fixed by Superbowl..I'm having a huge annual party and it will suck if we don't get it in time..I'm calling Suddenlink tommorrow.....

2Scoops
01-20-08, 07:25 PM
The game is in HD. Thank goodness I don't have to depend on our local
Fox station. The quality of their station is rediculous. Their volumn is absolutly
horrendous. I have to manually adjust to volumn to keep from blowing the family's eardrums out. :eek:

2Scoops
01-20-08, 07:30 PM
Anybody know if they''ll get it fixed by Superbowl..I'm having a huge annual party and it will suck if we don't get it in time..I'm calling Suddenlink tommorrow.....
I wouldn't depend on them 2020. You might want to get an OTA antenna so you can watch Fox 50 from Raleigh. Showing HD is not a high priority to them at all.

2020eyes
01-20-08, 07:32 PM
Where or how are you pulling in your signal,.....Raleigh ???

Ken12
01-20-08, 07:44 PM
It will get better

Ken

bamajeep
01-20-08, 07:47 PM
No NFC Championchip game in HD?

this sucks

2Scoops
01-20-08, 07:49 PM
Where or how are you pulling in your signal,.....Raleigh ???
I live around Simpson and use a DB4 from AntennasDirect.

jspENC
01-20-08, 08:11 PM
26 from ILM is in HD. I never have problems with them. I just about always have my antenna aimed at Wilmington, so I don't even think to go over to 8 and see what they are doing most times. Wilmington FOX also does 5.1 Dolby 24/7 now.

beanpod
01-20-08, 08:48 PM
What's with Fox14??? I see HD cameras all around the NFC game but no HD signal. Just joking!!!

Think they'll miss the Daytona 500 in HD this year just like Fox14 missed it last year. It's tough living in the armpit of NC. SE has Wilmington, NE has the VA stations, and Raleigh to the west. Anywhere too far inside that triangle and you're stuck with...well you know.

jamieh1
01-20-08, 08:58 PM
Getting SD on OTA WYDO HD here in Washington and also on Suddenlink.
OTA FOX 50 WRAZ HD getting HD.

Ill email Don Fisher at FOX and ask what going on.

jspENC
01-20-08, 09:29 PM
WFXI 8.1 has been in HD since the last post I made. It must be a WYDO malfunction somehow?

blueline
01-20-08, 11:05 PM
I really wish WYDO would just shut its doors for good, at least then us sat subscribers could get a Fox national feed in HD. WYDO sucks balls, always have and I suspect they always will.

arkansized
01-21-08, 10:59 AM
Hi from Swansboro. Without moving the rabbit ears I am receiving
WITN-7, 7.1, 7.2
WFXI-8, 8.1
WNCT-9
WCTI-12, 12.1, 12.3
WYDO-14
WUNM-19, 19.1, 19.2, 19.3, 19.4, 19.5
WPXU-35, 35.1, 35.2, 35.3, 35.4
The non-digital signals are chancy. We've optimized the location of the 'ears' to pick up 9.

I read that mattcombs in S'boro installed the CM 4228 with preamp in his attic. Sounds like the way to go for us. I am satisfied with the number of channels that I receive- really love the HD content from UNC-TV and some of the networks.
Would like a solution to the VHF-drop back in 2009 so I don't have to change antennas again. Thanks for all y'all's help!

RMartin631
01-21-08, 02:54 PM
I saw WYDO was in SD for the game and swapped over to WRAZ-50.

I also saw the Ch 12 logo all over the screen on 48.1 Saturday night. Today it has a static "Generic Full Screen Board" with a FOX Eastern Carolina News logo on.

jspENC
01-21-08, 04:27 PM
Confused?

Channel 12 now uses a bug in the corner? And they use a FOX ad on 12?

I saw the severe wx map going Saturday night during the game, which by the way on 12.1 was terribly dark, while the BC game on 12.3 was very bright... NC STATE game was hard to watch.

easternncnewswat
01-21-08, 08:33 PM
I saw WYDO was in SD for the game and swapped over to WRAZ-50.

I also saw the Ch 12 logo all over the screen on 48.1 Saturday night. Today it has a static "Generic Full Screen Board" with a FOX Eastern Carolina News logo on.

Yeah, it was like that Friday on 48.1 too. Happened to be flipping through the channels and stumbled across an ABC promo feed on 48.1. Looked like it was being dubbed cause it eventually rewound and was replaced with the ABC 12 logo. Pretty neat actually... Wasn't sure what was going on. Checked 48.1 and saw promos, switched to 12.1 and 12.3 and regular programming was on. One of those quirky little oddities that makes digital so much fun! :D

arkansized
01-22-08, 12:20 AM
I received a private msg from someone, and then it disappeared!? The question was, what rabbit ears am I using in S'boro to bring in 8.1. Answer: Phillips MANT510, available at Wal-Mart for +/- $30

agregjones
01-22-08, 09:37 AM
Any chance Fox 14 will be broadcasting in HD this week?

jspENC
01-22-08, 09:54 AM
Another reason to avoid CATV. They tell you what you want to watch and pay for... This kind of goes along with the idea I guess of not having a station such as ENC TV on the basic cable line-up, which more than 50% of their customers subscribe to. TW also does not carry CW on it's analog tier, which carries wrestling.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6524190.html?desc=topstory

Ken12
01-22-08, 08:51 PM
Any chance Fox 14 will be broadcasting in HD this week?
Are you picking up hd tonight on 14?

Ken

foxeng
01-22-08, 09:01 PM
Hey Ken, have you figured out the splicer yet? :D

Ken12
01-22-08, 09:58 PM
That is my project for tomorrow

jspENC
01-22-08, 10:19 PM
Where's Kara Lusk? I don't see her on the bio list with WNCT ?

RMartin631
01-23-08, 03:56 AM
Are you picking up hd tonight on 14?

Ken

Watching 14.1 last night was like watching 2 people frozen in time on the Tara Banks show while American Idol was supposed to be on. In SD! No matter, I switched to 50.1.

And for some strange reason I feel compelled to drive to Raleigh to buy a new truck. I don't understand it. :)

foxeng
01-23-08, 08:07 AM
That is my project for tomorrow

If I can help, let know! (Seriously)

uberliberal
01-23-08, 12:59 PM
Suddenlink QAM mappings. i can't get ANYTHING to show up in my SageTV. and only 1 PBS channel

easternncnewswat
01-23-08, 01:52 PM
Where's Kara Lusk? I don't see her on the bio list with WNCT ?

It was time for Kara to spread her wings and fly... She is on her way to WSOC in Charlotte.... wait for it... Eyewitness News 9! Haha! Her last broadcast was last Wednesday.

jspENC
01-23-08, 02:18 PM
Ken, Foxeng,

What will "the splicer" do for us the viewer? Forgive us blind folk!:D

foxeng
01-23-08, 07:41 PM
Ken, Foxeng,

What will "the splicer" do for us the viewer? Forgive us blind folk!:D

Unlike ABC, CBS and NBC that takes the HD signal and takes it to baseband as separate video and audio channels, FOX sends what is called an "ATSC Compliant" signal. Meaning, it is already compressed to 16 mbs and a device called a "splicer" takes the stations digital stream and "splices out" the stations video and audio and splices in the network video and audio. This is how FOX can do 5.1 on all of there network programming without a the station having the 5.1 equipment.This "splicing" is all done down stream so the station doesn't have to have an HD switching equipment, just an upconverter to take the SD signal to HD and then a HD encoder and then the splicer and then the transmitter. There are a couple of other boxes in line to make all of this work, but that is it. That is how the local station bug is inserted during network. The bug resides in the splicer and network turns it on and off.

That is pretty much it in a nutshell.

PleaseStandBy
01-23-08, 08:28 PM
It was time for Kara to spread her wings and fly... She is on her way to WSOC in Charlotte.... wait for it... Eyewitness News 9! Haha! Her last broadcast was last Wednesday.

...and what about Seth Browning? (for all of us Ron Burgandy wannabes!)

Ken12
01-23-08, 08:35 PM
I have the HD working on WYDO still have plenty of things to work on but we will have HD on both WFXI and WYDO for the Superbowl. We will get better just going to take a little time.

Thanks for the offer foxeng the splicer is pretty cool wish ABC did it that way. The splicer wasn't my problem. It was a bad ref for one to an HD frame sync.

Ken

jspENC
01-23-08, 09:20 PM
WFXI-DT was working fine tonight. Signal strength was very high tonight. I wish I could check WYDO-DT. The big blue FOX bug is still huge. I imagine that's one of the things that will improve too. Keep up the good work Ken, we can only imagine all the stuff that needs doing on FOX.

2020eyes
01-23-08, 09:26 PM
Hey, What's up with the sound tonight through Suddenlink? Last night picture frozen.tonight sound ...hope it will get fixed by Superbowl..my wife is threating to veto party .. please help

jamieh1
01-23-08, 10:10 PM
Ken,
Whats wrong with WYDO 14.1 when the 10p news comes on? The picture rolls, static. When goes to commercial its fine, or switch to 14.2 its fine.

Ken12
01-23-08, 10:36 PM
I just figured that problem out too the prerecorded label they were puting in the corner was creating a nonstandard signal. It should be fine now. We will keep working on it till I get everything right but its not going to happen overnight.

Ken

Ken12
01-23-08, 10:37 PM
I was good on suddenlink in newbern for WFXI where are you at

Ken

2020eyes
01-23-08, 10:40 PM
I'm in Greenville.....was watching Idol on 702 ..audio was horrible..through suddenlink

foxeng
01-23-08, 11:07 PM
Thanks for the offer foxeng the splicer is pretty cool wish ABC did it that way. The splicer wasn't my problem. It was a bad ref for one to an HD frame sync.

The splicer has its issues too, like not being able to key over network for EAS and crawls, etc but it is cool technology. Just make sure you do get the bug loaded in LOGO 1 and the more important legal ID in LOGO 2. During ball games and stuff that is about the only way to ID the station during network and stay in HD.

I hate when that happens! We have just gotten to the point that if it has a reference spigget, we just plug black burst or AES reference into it and go with it. That stopped 95% of our digital timing issues. The things you learn in the school of hard knocks! Like I tell people the learning curve of most of this digital stuff is 120 degrees back over your head!!

Ken12
01-24-08, 03:51 AM
Is 702 the HD feed on suddenlink in Greenville? If everyone keeps me updated on the problems I'll do my best to fix what I can as soon as I can. It is going to take me a little while to get up to speed on everything there. I will be making some major improvements that over the next several months that will be affecting both WCTI and Fox.

Ken

RMartin631
01-24-08, 04:17 AM
The audio on broadcast 14.1 was awful too. 14.2 was fine as was 50.1.

2020eyes
01-24-08, 01:39 PM
I have a question if someone could answer...if I get a antenna to get local HD channels..should i plug into TV directly or go through Direct TV box...the reason I'm asking is if I pick up local and it's going through Direct TV box ..i should be able to get 5.1 if it's broadcast right ??...since I've got box hooked to receiver already...just don't want to miss Superbowl in HD if Suddenlink not working welll..I know Ken's trying his best.

Thks

RMartin631
01-24-08, 04:12 PM
For the best signal I would connect directly to the TV. BTW, you'll be trying to get 50.1. You'll only get the Raleigh stations if you have the right antenna, at the right height and pointed in the right direction. WRAZ give you an antenna that will work.

jspENC
01-24-08, 06:55 PM
It was time for Kara to spread her wings and fly... She is on her way to WSOC in Charlotte.... wait for it... Eyewitness News 9! Haha! Her last broadcast was last Wednesday.

Thanks eastern. When people leave, most times they do it so fast that we miss the farewell. I think I remember her last show, but probably fell asleep or something before the end!

dan02gt
01-24-08, 08:52 PM
Ken,

Yes 702 is the Fox HD feed on Suddenlink in Greenville. I just flipped over to it, still SD and the audio seems pretty bad.

Thanks

RMartin631
01-25-08, 04:25 AM
I didn't get a chance to see 14.1 last night. Chuck was on. It's too bad they had to show 2 new episodes in one night.

Electrico
01-26-08, 05:54 AM
For the best signal I would connect directly to the TV. BTW, you'll be trying to get 50.1. You'll only get the Raleigh stations if you have the right antenna, at the right height and pointed in the right direction. WRAZ give you an antenna that will work.
With ALL due respect:
WRAZ will NOT give the:
"antenna that will work".
I submitted ALL the paper work and they determined that I was NOT eligible. I'll wait for your answer, Sir.
Thank you

RMartin631
01-26-08, 11:29 AM
With ALL due respect:
WRAZ will NOT give the:
"antenna that will work".
I submitted ALL the paper work and they determined that I was NOT eligible. I'll wait for your answer, Sir.
Thank you

You'll have to take that up with them. I just received a PM from a member here that is a couple of miles south of Ayden and they just got an antenna from WRAZ. The program is still available and they are still sending antennas to this area. Sir.

jspENC
01-26-08, 03:54 PM
Ken or Eastern, (whoever might know)

Have you heard any talk of getting rid of the 72.5 dish requirement for locals yet? How about HD locals?

I was at a friends today who has D* HD and the 72.5 but no antenna for locals like I have. The feeds of 7, CW, and 25 look good, but 9, and 12 don't look as good to me. 12 looks a bit ghosty. I'm glad I have antenna!

D* locals still look a lot better than what Cable puts out!

Ken12
01-26-08, 03:59 PM
Both directv and dish are working on HD locals for this area I'd expect them this year and they won't use the 72.5 for that

Ken

foxeng
01-26-08, 04:00 PM
I have heard that Canada wants their orbital slot back (D* is "renting" it right now from a Canadian sat company with Canadian and FCC approval since 72.5 is internationally coordinated to Canada, not the US) but that doesn't mean D* will be vacating 72.5 anytime soon. Ken and George may know more.

jspENC
01-26-08, 04:07 PM
Holy crap! That was quick!

Thanks Ken! You too foxeng. :D

easternncnewswat
01-26-08, 07:55 PM
Holy crap! That was quick!

Thanks Ken! You too foxeng. :D

Those guys know more about that stuff than I do. I'm still learning the ins and outs of all this engineering stuff. Never get to look at the stuff in master control, etc. as much as I would like! :D

jamieh1
01-27-08, 12:31 AM
WYDO DT 14.1 is terrible, distorted low audio.

WYDO 14 on Directv audio has a country music radio station in the back ground.

jspENC
01-27-08, 09:46 AM
WYDO 14 on Directv audio has a country music radio station in the back ground.

I heard it too! I think it's Thunder Country. I used to hear HOT FM 103.7 on WYDO when I still watched analog on my antenna. Then again, maybe it's 96.3 getting mixed up with the STL from Morehead City?

WYDO DT 14.1 is terrible, distorted low audio.

I think this is because Ken has been working on the splicer? 8.1 local programming audio is a bit off balance - more mono mixed in than there should be. I get more sound from the left speaker and center, and almost none from the right and surrounds. It's been that way for a long time. During FOX programming the 5.1 is identical to FOX 26.1

popweaverhdtv
01-27-08, 04:36 PM
FOX Eastern Carolina News premieres Monday (1/27) with a new, familiar news anchor...Both Articles are from Kinston's "The Free-Press":

http://www.kinston.com/news/fox_44005___article.html/news_carolina.html

http://www.kinston.com/sports/north_43991___article.html/sports_news.html

tnorrispj
01-27-08, 10:49 PM
Both directv and dish are working on HD locals for this area I'd expect them this year and they won't use the 72.5 for that

Ken
thanks for this. i'd pay cold hard cash for fox in hd.... 14 sd on directv stinks

agregjones
01-28-08, 09:55 AM
I have heard that Canada wants their orbital slot back (D* is "renting" it right now from a Canadian sat company with Canadian and FCC approval since 72.5 is internationally coordinated to Canada, not the US) but that doesn't mean D* will be vacating 72.5 anytime soon. Ken and George may know more.

DirecTV has leased that space and the lease is ending in 2009, I believe.

I have the 72.5 dish, but rarely use the signal off of it in Ayden. I have a cheap Radio Shack antenna with an amp up about 32 ft. I have some difficulty getting WCTI but seem to have aimed around enough trees to get it reliably now.

I am very interested in getting HD LIL from DirecTV for a few reasons:
- I want to get rid of the 72.5 dish
- I would like to get the HD LIL in MPEG4 because they take up considerably less drive space on the HD DVR
- There is little visible difference in the picture quality (my opinion on my setup) between OTA and MPEG4

piratefan2
01-28-08, 11:13 AM
You'll have to take that up with them. I just received a PM from a member here that is a couple of miles south of Ayden and they just got an antenna from WRAZ. The program is still available and they are still sending antennas to this area. Sir.

It was WRAL, but your overall point was correct. I set it (Channel Master 4228) up this weekend, along with the 7775 preamp that they sent me. I couldn't get WNCT, because the pramp is UHF only. I plugged the preamp and a set of rabbit ears into a coax splitter, and I was able to get WNCT with that setup. I was also able to get 5, 7, 11, 12, 14, 25, 28, and 50 (all digital stations) by pointing the antenna towards Raleigh/Durham. The top of my antenna is only about 7.5' above ground.

Thanks for your advice.

Electrico
01-28-08, 05:43 PM
It was WRAL, but your overall point was correct. I set it (Channel Master 4228) up this weekend, along with the 7775 preamp that they sent me. I couldn't get WNCT, because the pramp is UHF only. I plugged the preamp and a set of rabbit ears into a coax splitter, and I was able to get WNCT with that setup. I was also able to get 5, 7, 11, 12, 14, 25, 28, and 50 (all digital stations) by pointing the antenna towards Raleigh/Durham. The top of my antenna is only about 7.5' above ground.

Thanks for your advice.
Their process is just that very selective...

2020eyes
01-28-08, 08:34 PM
Ken,

Suddenlink Fox 702 is in HD but the sound is horrible again....how's it looking for Superbowl...By the way the show prior to Sarah Conner was not in Hd but the sound was fine...I don't get it...

Thks for your efforts

jspENC
01-28-08, 09:27 PM
When a show is in HD, it is coming from FOX cooperate and uses the splicer to deliver Dolby 5.1

agregjones
01-28-08, 10:18 PM
OK, question time.

I just saw a promo stating that LOST would not be on 12 on Thursday due to the basketball game. Will the game be HD? If not, will the game preempt the premiere of LOST on 12-1?

If LOST is shown on Friday at 7pm will it be shown in HD?

Ken12
01-28-08, 11:51 PM
Lost will not be in HD on Friday I'm not able to record a HD show yet for later playback. I'm not sure if the game is in HD or not don't have a schedule at home.

Worked on the audio problem on 14.1 tonight I think we located the problem had a HD framesync go bad will have to get it replaced. Have it bypassed for now. You will see another problem now though. You will se a glitch when we switch between sources. We will continue working on the problems untill they are all gone. We will do our best to provide as good a signal as possible on all for the super bowl.

Ken

Ken12
01-28-08, 11:53 PM
When a show is in HD, it is coming from FOX cooperate and uses the splicer to deliver Dolby 5.1
That is correct the problem I have is I have only one splicer and it is used for WFXI. WE are trying to get another one but they are quite expensive.

Ken

jspENC
01-29-08, 08:50 AM
NC STATE/ DUKE will be in HD according to what Ken posted a few pages back. I have the post printed out.

Who watched Fox East Carolina news last night? I thought it was really good. I liked the colors, all except the yellow.

Ken12
01-29-08, 08:58 AM
NC STATE/ DUKE will be in HD according to what Ken posted a few pages back. I have the post printed out.

Who watched Fox East Carolina news last night? I thought it was really good. I liked the colors, all except the yellow.

It will get better it is still a work in progress.

Ken

blueline
01-29-08, 12:18 PM
"That is correct the problem I have is I have only one splicer and it is used for WFXI. WE are trying to get another one but they are quite expensive.

Ken"

Not to beat up the messenger, but if a network affiliate cannot afford the equipment to keep its programming going, then just throw in the hat. Go off the air for good, and maybe a company with adequate resources will pick it up, or us cable and sat subscribers would get a better affiliate supplied to us. This less than adequate performance from FOX 8-14 has gone on way too long.

brownover
01-29-08, 12:26 PM
Ken, when channel 12 converts to a digital only signal, will it be as strong as your 12 analog? I know that you will be changing from 48 to 12 for your digital. I get a decent picture everyday on 12 thru the backside of a CM 4228 and I live 4 miles south of Ahoskie. I seldom receive the digital signal on 48.

jspENC
01-29-08, 01:09 PM
Everyone,

We all know how bad FOX 14 has been for quite sometime. I'm sure there is a TON of stuff that has to be done to rectify what wasn't done before the ownership change. I don't think it is going to happen in one day or even in one week. I also think that the folks at 12 want to fix everything as fast as you want to see and hear it fixed, but I think it just takes some patience. Once it's done I bet it is going to be right this time around. Remember this is a different company now, and that will be a positive thing.

Brownover, I remember asking that question a while back and I think Ken said he would be sending a signal from the top of WCTI's 2000' tower, instead of the current lower placement of the antenna, so that should make a huge difference from Wilmington to Windsor and probably even as far up as Ahoskie.

VHF signals bend around the horizon much better than a UHF upper position will.

brownover
01-29-08, 01:30 PM
Thanks Jsp

RMartin631
01-29-08, 02:21 PM
Not to beat up the messenger, but if a network affiliate cannot afford the equipment to keep its programming going, then just throw in the hat.

The station is under new ownership and Ken is working to fix the many problems as fast as he can. If you see a problem please post it here so Ken is aware of it.

In the next couple/few years you will see a whole lot of changes to the Greenville area TV stations. For example WITN is getting ready to build, what is being billed as, a state of the art facility on Arlington Blvd in Greenville.

jamieh1
01-29-08, 04:19 PM
Ken,
Not sure if you got the static sound fixed on WYDO-DT when it has HD, if not will it be fixed before the Super Bowl?

jspENC
01-29-08, 04:37 PM
Jamie,

If you can get WFXI where you are, you might want to watch them. I have had no static on my dolby 5.1 system. (just a thought) :) American Idol is on tonight.

WFXI is really strong, so maybe some of you south of Greenville might be able to get it if you aim antenna east of Morehead. As long as you aren't in the pink the signal should be good enough. I'm in the blue and get a very high signal at night. Moderate in the afternoon.

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=80&q=call%3dWFXI%26type%3dD

Ken12
01-29-08, 06:05 PM
Let me know how 14.1 does tonight in Greenville.

Ken

Ken12
01-29-08, 06:11 PM
Ken, when channel 12 converts to a digital only signal, will it be as strong as your 12 analog? I know that you will be changing from 48 to 12 for your digital. I get a decent picture everyday on 12 thru the backside of a CM 4228 and I live 4 miles south of Ahoskie. I seldom receive the digital signal on 48.

I'll be using my current analog transmitter(converted to digital) and my existing antenna for 12 when 2009 comes around. We will have much better coverage at that time. My current analog transmitter is a Harris Platiumn that went online in feburary of 2007

Ken

Ken12
01-29-08, 06:16 PM
"That is correct the problem I have is I have only one splicer and it is used for WFXI. WE are trying to get another one but they are quite expensive.

Ken"

Not to beat up the messenger, but if a network affiliate cannot afford the equipment to keep its programming going, then just throw in the hat. Go off the air for good, and maybe a company with adequate resources will pick it up, or us cable and sat subscribers would get a better affiliate supplied to us. This less than adequate performance from FOX 8-14 has gone on way too long.

Give us a chance it will get better we just got fox on Dec 31 2007 I am ordering a lot of equipment some of it will take several months to come in. I will try and maintain and improve the analog as best as I can but most new money will be spent on the digital.

Ken

foxeng
01-29-08, 06:31 PM
Ken,

Make sure you have the audio of the local HD encoder set for 448 khz. That is the bit rate FOX sends on the splicer. If it isn't set to that, some receivers (DirecTV in particular) will drop the audio for several seconds when switching from net back to local until the receiver dumps the buffer and refills again. Learned that one the hard way.

easternncnewswat
01-29-08, 08:43 PM
14.1 looks real good here in Greenville tonight. No problems that I've seen during American Idol. Didn't get home from work till about 8:15 so I caught it on the second half. Looks good, Ken!

Ken12
01-29-08, 08:48 PM
Great getting somewhere anyhow are you picking it up over the air or from suddenlink. We plan on working on the analog 14 on thursday and hope to improve the picture quality there.

Ken

easternncnewswat
01-29-08, 09:10 PM
Great getting somewhere anyhow are you picking it up over the air or from suddenlink.
Ken

I'm watching OTA. At home, I get a good clean signal from WYDO... I've even picked up WFXI during the summer with just the rabbit ears.

I've tried locking in YDO on my digital set at the station but can't get a signal, but get CTI better there than at home. Of course, that could be that 200 ft tower over my desk. Haha! But even at home, I get CTI 9 times out of 10 so I'm not complaining.

Have to admit, it was strange seeing you guys do the Fox News at 10 last night. :cool:

foxeng
01-30-08, 07:34 AM
Ken,

One more thing. Make sure you have the local HD encoder Dolby Dialnorm set for -25. I think most encoders come set for -27 but FOX uses -25. The audio difference of 2 can be very jarring to viewers. We couldn't figure out why sometimes network audio seemed low compared to local and the viewer would have to reduce audio on local and turn it back up on net. And we would hear about it. Changing the Dialnorm stopped 95% of that problem. Sometimes net just does send low audio but when they are doing what they are suppose to, having the Dialnorm match stops that running the audio up and down.

Ken12
01-30-08, 09:10 AM
Thanks I'll check there settings

Ken

jspENC
01-30-08, 09:50 AM
I notice it sometimes, but not so much on WFXI as compared to when I'm at my folks watching WRAZ. It will run you out of the room on that station when local commercials come on. WSFX local stuff doesn't blare like it used to, so they must have adjusted it.

2020eyes
01-30-08, 10:41 AM
Ken,

nice job last night..picked up signal great on Suddenlink..agree that sound was lower than other channels...but no static...thks again

agregjones
01-31-08, 10:33 AM
Ken, we don't say this enough, but we all appreciate all of the work. We understand that you're trying to do a lot in a very tight timeline. We know you have had every disadvantage in trying to get this straightened out.

Luckily, there's no high-profile programming on Fox for a while so there's no pressure. LOL

avs0208
01-31-08, 03:54 PM
What do you mean? No high-profile programming on Fox for a while? The Super Bowl is this Sunday on Fox.... :) I get WRAZ great. No worries for me.....

jspENC
01-31-08, 04:56 PM
I wonder if Ken was able to get the picture on analog 14 looking better? It has looked really washed out for a long time.

It's always good to have two of each affiliate. I wish I could get a second CBS. I get two of all the others but CBS and CW.

foxeng
01-31-08, 05:23 PM
It's always good to have two of each affiliate. I wish I could get a second CBS. I get two of all the others but CBS and CW.

You can't get WRAL? The WRAL antenna literally sits on top of the WRAZ antenna.

jspENC
01-31-08, 06:29 PM
The only channel I get from Raleigh every night is WRDC. For some reason I can't get the others. It's very rare that I get WRAL. If I had a 4228 or 91XG maybe they would come in, but at 90 miles out, and with a lot of trees in that direction, I doubt it.

foxeng
01-31-08, 08:01 PM
The only channel I get from Raleigh every night is WRDC. For some reason I can't get the others. It's very rare that I get WRAL. If I had a 4228 or 91XG maybe they would come in, but at 90 miles out, and with a lot of trees in that direction, I doubt it.

I am 90 miles to the west and I get WRAL, WRAZ. WNCN, WTVD, WLFL and WRDC using a 4228 at 20 feet.

jspENC
01-31-08, 08:37 PM
I am 90 miles to the west and I get WRAL, WRAZ. WNCN, WTVD, WLFL and WRDC using a 4228 at 20 feet.

I must be in a suck hole.:eek: I see Florence and Charleston SC though quite regularly.

Ken12
01-31-08, 08:39 PM
We are having trouble with the HD feed of the ACC game that is coming up we will do our best to get it on as soon as possible

Ken

jspENC
01-31-08, 08:43 PM
We are having trouble with the HD feed of the ACC game that is coming up we will do our best to get it on as soon as possible

Ken

Thanks Ken. :) It will work if we all chant together!;)

Ken12
01-31-08, 09:39 PM
got it they had given us the wrong symbol rate at raycom

jspENC
01-31-08, 09:40 PM
It's in HD now. Thanks Ken!

I talked to my Dad as the game was starting, (he was on WRAL) and they had some audio problems as the game first got started, so no big loss not having HD at the start.

Ken12
01-31-08, 09:53 PM
The settings they sent me had the synmbol rate of 29.3 when it was really 29.27 one little setting threw it off I was lucky I guessed at the right number

Ken

agregjones
01-31-08, 10:12 PM
What do you mean? No high-profile programming on Fox for a while? The Super Bowl is this Sunday on Fox.... :) I get WRAZ great. No worries for me.....

That was sarcasm

Ken12
01-31-08, 10:22 PM
Didn't get a chance to get to WYDO today to work on the analog I'm going to try tomorrow.

Ken

foxeng
02-01-08, 08:12 AM
Talking about WRAL and WRAZ's antenna, here is a picture of the tower site at Auburn of the Raleigh stations. I had hoped to get a better shot of the digital tower to actually show the two antennas of WRAL and WRAZ but of course I can't find any!

Anyway, the tower on the left is the digital tower with WRAL, WRAZ, WTVD, WNCN, WRDC and WLFL on the 3 arms of the tower at the top. The center tower is the analog tower with WRAL, WRDC, WRAL FM, WQDR FM, and WRAZ. The tower on the right is the analog tower of WTVD. These towers are within 2 miles of each other.

http://www.fybush.com/Tower%20Site/030807/tvtowers.jpg

jspENC
02-01-08, 08:52 AM
I've seen those towers passing by on US 70. I have family up there in Clayton that live not five minutes from them. I thought WTVD DT was on the WTVD analog tower, but maybe that explains why I have to move my antenna so far to the west to get their signal when I do get it. Almost 25 degrees left of WRAL, WRAZ and WRDC-or maybe it's a signal bounced off of something... FM 101.5 and 94.7 come in good down here.

woodardhsd
02-01-08, 09:03 AM
We are having trouble with the HD feed of the ACC game that is coming up we will do our best to get it on as soon as possible

Ken

Maybe I'm too far away, but I having an awful time watching the Duke/pack game last night. The sound kept cutting out (like a CD skipping) throughout the game. I wish I could get the ABC HD, cause after watching the NFL, MLB, and college basketball in HD on CBS and FOX, analog makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

Theo1080
02-01-08, 09:09 AM
WTVD-DT is on WTVD-TV tower...look for WRDU-FM to move to the WRAL tower soon.

avs0208
02-01-08, 09:50 AM
That was sarcasm

I was just messing with you:) No ill intent was intended...

jspENC
02-01-08, 10:18 AM
Maybe I'm too far away, but I having an awful time watching the Duke/pack game last night. The sound kept cutting out (like a CD skipping) throughout the game. I wish I could get the ABC HD, cause after watching the NFL, MLB, and college basketball in HD on CBS and FOX, analog makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

What are you using for antenna? Any amp? What type cabling and connectors? Jamie might be able to offer some tips, he is right around that area I believe and gets the signal.

But the basics for fringe are, high gain UHF antenna, RG-6 quad shield, compression or crimp on fittings if you make a splice, and an amp for long cable runs or many splits. The higher the antenna the better the chances. Height first before amplifying, and outside.

foxeng
02-01-08, 10:34 AM
WTVD-DT is on WTVD-TV tower...look for WRDU-FM to move to the WRAL tower soon.

If TVD isn't on the digital tower then who is the 6th station? There are 6 stations on the tower, two on each arm.

woodardhsd
02-01-08, 10:49 AM
What are you using for antenna? Any amp? What type cabling and connectors? Jamie might be able to offer some tips, he is right around that area I believe and gets the signal.

But the basics for fringe are, high gain UHF antenna, RG-6 quad shield, compression or crimp on fittings if you make a splice, and an amp for long cable runs or many splits. The higher the antenna the better the chances. Height first before amplifying, and outside.

I think I posted my setup earlier in this thread, I'll see if I can find it. I have DirecTV with a dish mounted antenna (clip-on Terk that combines the antenna signal with the satellite signal into 1 cable)) running underground about 20' (RG6) to a ground block, then running around 25' (RG6) to a terk diplexer (splits the satellite/antenna signal) then 3' of RG6 to my Samsung 40" LCD. I know my antenna sucks, it's just funny that I get WITN & WNCT at full strength, FOX8 around 40-50%, but nothing on WCTI, even though FOX is farther away than WCTI. I think I read up here that FOX broadcasts a stronger signal then WCTI, though.

Here's the picture of my setup with your comments on it. Ignore everything to the left of the Dish. I returned that antenna.
http://img40.picoodle.com/img/img40/6/10/23/f_setupm_61144e7.jpg

jspENC
02-01-08, 11:34 AM
Oh I remember that now. LOL!

That definitely will not work for ABC. If you are going to keep that Terk, you will need a C. Master 4228 for WCTI. I can't see any easy way to configure another antenna into that Terk, so I would just run a totally different line into the house to an A/B switch with port A inputing the Terk and B inputing the WCTI antenna. Then just switch to what antenna is appropriate for what channel you want to watch.

If it was me however, I would lose the terk and put up a much better antenna. If it works for you though, I don't blame you in a way for keeping it...