12 analog is gone. Now just waiting for the adjustments to be complete. Then I can push .12 on my Digital stream and see the new signal so I can re-scan my Samsung. Most probably should do the re-scan instead of direct entry.

Analog 35 and 38 are off the air forever.

I've got my box sitting on 12 right now waiting for the signal. :DI was picking up 38 earlier this morning in Virginia Beach... :-)

Directv add WEPX 38.1 to the guides yesterday but didnt add 38.2, 38.3, or 38.4

The new channel 12 is now active.
Very weak signal though for me. about 40%

Explains why 12 has gone to a fuschia colored screen on Dish Network. Wonder how long it will take them to adjust the receiver?

The old channel 48 is now dead, so they need to rescan to receive channel 12 probably, although they are likely breaking in the transmitter slowly.

Directv feed of WCTI 12 is black. Over the air feed thru Directv HD HR20 is searching for signal. Directv is supposed to update the guide data base sometime today.

Today's the day! :)

Still weak, so you guys up around Greenville, Washington likely won't be able to pick it up quite yet. I'll watch the strength and when it goes up, I'll report.

When is UNC-TV's planned shut-off time??

still nothing here in Washington.

Directv still out

No WCTI here in Wilson ether. I'll try it again later. How are the Triangle stations doing in the east?

At 1:35 digital 12 goes dead. Hope they didn't hit it with a hammer! 1:36 back up again, signal up slightly to 47%

I thought 9 was shutting off at 12:30 with everyone else? Their analog is still going strong.

I thought 9 was shutting off at 12:30 with everyone else? Their analog is still going strong.

They shut down at 6:30 tonight...

No WCTI here in gville that I've been able to find so far.

No WCTI here in Wilson ether. I'll try it again later. How are the Triangle stations doing in the east?

They're all working here 7 miles SE of Greenville. I'm getting 5.1 and 5.2 again now. I lost them about 3 months ago. 11.X, 17.X, 22.X, 28.X, 5.X are all requiring me to turn the antenna to the NW. 50.X requires me to turn the antenna to the W. Kinda funky. Hopefully when everybody gets up to full power everything will straighten out.

7 and 9 still have analog up. 12.X is still down at my house. 14.X is working.

WCTI 12 is not on again at 2:45. Not sure how long it's been off. Got to leave but will check on it when i get back.

Had 12 on Suddenlink for a while. Now off,

Directv and over the air been off since about 1p

Does anybody know how the servers here at AVS Forums are handling the load? I bet they go into overload tonight.

22.1 coming in now here in Washington

just locked in cti here now.

Got it here in Washington as well.

Shouldnt the signal be stronger now that they have moved to 12 VHF?

Thunder Storms starting to rumble here in Washington!

Directv has updated the guide data. WCTI and ENC are displaying correctly. WUNM 19 is not, since UNC has not transitioned yet.

Checked signal strength on WCTI, earlier today before change over had about 55-60% now shows 90%



Also great to see the Ral-Durham stations back. Getting all now. Generally only get after 6pm and till mid morning. Get strong signals.

WCTI is coming in at 99% now. Severe weather on it.

Checked signal strength on WCTI, earlier today before change over had about 55-60% now shows 90%

I like the sound of that. I'm crossing my fingers that I'll finally get WCTI. I'm stuck at work right now. :(

How well do you get WRAL and other Raleigh stations in your area? What percentage?

WCTI is coming in at 99% now. Severe weather on it.
I know it's NOT your fault but I have an inferior antenna and I got the biggest gain if that makes any sense. My 12-1 signal strength went from 3% to 81 %. Add to that the trees and my area. You guys have these sophisticated fancy expensive antennas along with the flat areas where you live. The last time I got 12-1 it was during a mighty cold winter star lit night. Question: Isn't Ch 12-1 WS with 5.1 DD sound?
Thanks

How well do you get WRAL and other Raleigh stations in your area? What percentage?

Almost 100% of the time. I try the Raleigh stations first and if there is a problem with them I try the Greenville stations.

Question: Isn't Ch 12-1 WS with 5.1 DD sound?

12 is not DD 5.1 but they air HD off of ABC. They are not delivering widescreen programming. The only station I have seen doing this is WWAY.

Are you in Edgecombe county, or Martin?

Had some problems with the switch when you were picking me up between 1 and 3 I was only putting out 100W of power instead of 4.7KW I have heard from folks in Morehead and Pamlico county picking us up with rabbit ears All is good now I would be interested in hearing from people on how it is doing.

Ken

jspENC:
I'm in Martin county. The last time and only time getting 12-1 at least two years ago it was WS and had 5.1 DD sound. That is the reason I asked because I was surprised to see differently. Yes, it is HD.
Thanks

WCTI has never had 5.1 I wish I did

WCTI has never had 5.1 I wish I did
Mr. Ken:
Sir, I stand corrected and I apologize. Along those lines what are the chances of having 5.1 DD and WS programming any time soon?
Thanks

I live down here in Pamlico and just got home from work. I am happy to say that I am picking up WCTI for the 1st time ever. All i got is rabbit ears and it is coming in strong at 90%.

It is on our wish list I doubt if it will happen this year but I'll keep asking

Ken

Ken,
I'm getting a solid lock here in Wilson with just a UHF antenna. TV Fool says that I'm 57 miles from your tower.

CH 9-1 just posted severe "T'storm Watch" for several eastern NC counties at the top of the screen. You guessed: IT, the WS and the 5.1 DD sound are GONE- here we go again...
Let's call it the weather warning syndrome...

No station in this market as well as most other medium and some larger markets in the US can do weather crawls and remain in HD. We are required to air the weather crawls so we must drop out of HD to do them. In the future we will be purchasing new equipment to allow us to do this. But with the economy the way it is it is not going to be tomorrow. Stations do not want to drop out of HD and only do so when we must but no matter how we do it some people are not going to be happy.

Ken

No station in this market as well as most other medium and some larger markets in the US can do weather crawls and remain in HD. We are required to air the weather crawls so we must drop out of HD to do them. In the future we will be purchasing new equipment to allow us to do this. But with the economy the way it is it is not going to be tomorrow. Stations do not want to drop out of HD and only do so when we must but no matter how we do it some people are not going to be happy.

Ken

I wish this was like facebook where i could "Like" this comment. This thread has gotten so long it's almost impossible to read it from the beginning. I'm glad this has been explained again so folks can be reminded that the stations in this market are not trying to screw them out of HD. I mean, don't get me wrong, it annoys me too but there's a reason that some of us aren't working right now. The economy sucks. And money doesn't grow on trees. JMHO.

The WFXI transition has been completed we are now broadcasting on digital 8

Ken

Getting the following stations this morning from out of our area.


WCWG- Lexington NC
WTAT- Charleston SC
WRLH- Richmond VA


local channels being lost this morning. WEPX, WUNM appears other stations knocking out there signal.

The WFXI transition has been completed we are now broadcasting on digital 8

Ken


Ken where is the 8 signal coming from, Morehead or Trenton.
Also is WYDO still in Ayden or has it moved or will it move later?

WFXI is still in OpenGrounds Farm that will not change. WYDO is in Ayden on digital 21. We are waiting for some equipment to come in still but we will be moving it to Trenton in late July or early August and it will be on 47. The quicker it happens the happier I will be.

Ken

WFXI is still in OpenGrounds Farm that will not change. WYDO is in Ayden on digital 21. We are waiting for some equipment to come in still but we will be moving it to Trenton in late July or early August and it will be on 47. The quicker it happens the happier I will be.

Ken

Should the coverage area of WFXI be increased now? Im getting a digitized picture in Washington. Signal 35%



How many calls have come in from people who didnt upgrade to recieve digital?

Here is a link to a good site for antenna coverage.

www.dtv.gov/dtv_resources.htm?



enter your zip code, youll have stations listed click on coverage map. Then click on stations your get info and a direction line on the map, click on the map (station pin) it will tell you distance from tower.

You can drag the orange pin to any point on the map, drag to the point where your antenna is at your house, then when you click on a station a line is drawn from there to the antenna tower of the tv station.

Washington is pushing it and there are some atmospherics this morning. Most calls are just people needing to rescan.

Ken

I forgot about WFXI, I need to check it out.

Darn, it is too weak, or my antenna is too weak... Showing 28%, so if anyone wants to watch 8 here in Jacksonville, they will need a VHF antenna. Well it came in briefly, and on 8-3 for some reason, now it is correct at 8-1. Must have needed to gather all the PSIP

No station in this market as well as most other medium and some larger markets in the US can do weather crawls and remain in HD. We are required to air the weather crawls so we must drop out of HD to do them. In the future we will be purchasing new equipment to allow us to do this. But with the economy the way it is it is not going to be tomorrow. Stations do not want to drop out of HD and only do so when we must but no matter how we do it some people are not going to be happy.

Ken

Those storms last night weren't very close to me, but that lightning sure interrupts the digital signals. I had WFXI last night on the news, and you couldn't help but miss a word every now and then for the noise the lightning was creating, even on UHF.

Does this happen on cable too, or do they take a fiber feed around here so there is a clean signal?

Ken,

Do you know what is going on with PBS? There is no signal on either 18 or 19 that I can find.

Ive noticed the same thing too. Lightning does bother UHF somewhat, but not as bad as VHF.

I'm getting PBS now around 90% on 19

How is it coming in for others? Here is a map... Kind of weak at 100kW

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/DT1250161.jpg

I'm getting PBS now around 90% on 19

How is it coming in for others? Here is a map... Kind of weak at 100kW

http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/DT1250161.jpg

I'm picking it up here in Wilson, but I'm about 5 miles west of it's coverage area and it freezes up to much to watch. It's not as strong as WCTI was up here when it was on 48. WCTI was always solid on UHF, and so far it's good on VHF as well. I get 25 and 36 just fine so PBS is not a problem for me.

19 is coming in now. This morning I was getting WCWG from Lexington NC on that channel.

Jamie,

Have you picked up WTVD any? I can't get but about a 15% on my meter, and that is if I turn toward the east with my antenna. I am getting WRAL, WNCN, and WRDC better than WRAZ and WLFL. Those won't come in for me very good.

Ken must have done an excellant job at 12 and 14. I can now receive 12 all of the time without turning my antenna. Kudos to Ken. :)

Jamie,

Have you picked up WTVD any? I can't get but about a 15% on my meter, and that is if I turn toward the east with my antenna. I am getting WRAL, WNCN, and WRDC better than WRAZ and WLFL. Those won't come in for me very good.

It was in and out. I believe they switched back to channel 11 vhf from 52.
That may be why its harder to get.

I'm not picking it up WCTI very well in Wilson either; I'm on the east side, just inside of the coverage area. Last night I was getting about 60-62 on the meter with occasional glitches but today I can't get anything. I got better reception pre-transition as well.

CH 12-1 has the weather warning syndrome also. This is getting aggravating and annoying. Everytime there's a "T-storm warning" placed the WS goes just like 9-1. When will this garbage end? Is this a contagious disease?

ch 12-1 has the weather warning syndrome also. This is getting aggravating and annoying. Everytime there's a "t-storm warning" placed the ws goes just like 9-1. When will this garbage end? Is this a contagious disease?
no station in this market as well as most other medium and some larger markets in the us can do weather crawls and remain in hd. We are required to air the weather crawls so we must drop out of hd to do them. In the future we will be purchasing new equipment to allow us to do this. But with the economy the way it is it is not going to be tomorrow. Stations do not want to drop out of hd and only do so when we must but no matter how we do it some people are not going to be happy.

Ken

the answer was posted yesterday.

I'm not picking it up WCTI very well in Wilson either; I'm on the east side, just inside of the coverage area. Last night I was getting about 60-62 on the meter with occasional glitches but today I can't get anything. I got better reception pre-transition as well.

Which station are you talking about? WCTI or WTVD?

WTVD http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/DT1260193.jpg

WCTI http://www.fcc.gov/ftp/Bureaus/MB/Databases/fm_tv_service_areas/maps/DT1250678.jpg

I'm not picking it up WCTI very well in Wilson either; I'm on the east side, just inside of the coverage area. Last night I was getting about 60-62 on the meter with occasional glitches but today I can't get anything. I got better reception pre-transition as well.

Make sure you rescaned
that has been what most of the calls have been

the answer was posted yesterday.Congratulations-WOW?
Am I supposed to be impressed by your Einsteinian intuition?:rolleyes:

WCTI has never had 5.1 I wish I did
Ken:
I'd just remembered. It was 13-1 ABC out of the Norfolk area. They have DD 5.1 and the WS. Mistakenly I thought it was 12-1. it wasn't a crazy thought after all:D
BTW I have a cheap CM that Lowes(20 some elements!) used to sell many moons ago:rolleyes: Yesterday morning(very early!) the 12-1 SS was 93%. I look forward to watching the HD NBA finals game tonight! WOW I'd just missed the Indy 500 in HD...

I've been unable to get 12 since the change over by Simpson. I have re-scaned several times. I had no problem before. Must be the VHF change since I have a DB8 antenna.

I also had a db4 and lost 12 I replaced it with an old vhf that I had and I'm getting a 95 I was surprised I may play with the db4 later with a spectrum analizer and try to see what is going on.

Ken

Ken if you go to the antenna topic in the HDTV technical section, they have posted something about extending the screen of the CM 4221 or DB4 to better pick up high VHF.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=381623&page=316

About half way down, all kinds of tests and stuff.

There seems to be some sort of audio problem on 14. Everybody all day long has been speaking with a lisp. It's like the audio is being smeared or something.

I've been able to get WYDO down here in the evenings since I put up the Winegard. It isn't solid enough though to watch a program on it.

I'm new to this forum. I live in New Bern and have received local HDTV using VHF antennas. Received WITN, WNCT, and WFXI with signal strength in the 90's. WCTI and WUNC were iffy at best. After 6/12, WCTI is now in the high 80's but WFXI is at 0. Does anybody know what has happened to Fox?

I need some help from the antenna guys for getting something for a tractor trailer. I don't know much about any of this, so your help and patience is appreciated.

My father drives a 18-wheeler and has a omni-directional antenna installed. From what I can tell it's an Antennacraft, and no idea how old it is, but at least 10yrs or more. He drives up and down the East Coast, and has always gotten great reception wherever he went. He doesn't care to lock on to a signal and keep it for long distances, but rather just pick up the local stations as he passes from city to city (loves to have the local news playing).

Now that the transition has taken place, his reception is very weak to not even watchable. He's got two tv's, one LCD with tuner built in, and one with a converter box. What's really different vs analog, is that if he's sitting still, he can acquire a decent-strong signal, but once he is driving, it breaks up and eventually loses the signal. What does he need to buy to fit his needs? He is only interested in OTA signals, satellite (or any pay service) is not an option at this point. I found this http://www.antennacraft.net/HDView360.html, but don't know if he has to constantly "tune" it...just want it to work without intervention.

I searched around looking for the right place to post this, but couldn't find a suitable area. Lurking in this thread for a long time, I've seen all the antenna talk, so I'm looking for any direction.

Thanks for any and all help.

I was actually thinking about that exact thing today...

I used to have a portable TV in my car so if I was still on the road at 6 I could hear the evening news. If you looked at the screen, the multipath on any station made it nearly unwatchable. I noticed that driving down 11 between Greenville and Kinston it was even a problem, and on most of that road you have line of sight to the 7/9 Grifton tower. The ghosting was terrible. That's something that kills digital signals... so the fact that he can't get anything isn't surprising.

There are devices that clean up multipath but it's so bad in a moving vehicle that I don't know how well it would work.

The ONLY thing that will help the guy wanting reception while moving is the new ATSC M/H standard for Moving / Handheld. WRAL is demoing it on some Raleigh city buses, I have no idea how widespread it is.

UNfortunately for him - ATSC was designed for STATIONARY antennas - the moving multipath will kill it. He'll probably have to get used to radio while moving and he can get TV when he parks.

I'm new to this forum. I live in New Bern and have received local HDTV using VHF antennas. Received WITN, WNCT, and WFXI with signal strength in the 90's. WCTI and WUNC were iffy at best. After 6/12, WCTI is now in the high 80's but WFXI is at 0. Does anybody know what has happened to Fox?


I noticed the same thing in Hubert....I've got a large Antennacraft Y10 VHF antenna and a DB4 UHF antenna (combined with a Channel Master combiner) basically aimed toward Greenville and I'm getting 7-1, 9-1, 12-1, and 19-1,2,3 at almost 100% using a Channel Master preamp but absolutely zilch for WFXI 8-1. I realize the 8-1 transmitter is located in Morehead City but I thought that VHF antenna reception was nondirectional???

Prior to the transition I had an Antennas Direct C4 UHF aimed at Morehead (on the same mast as the Y10 pointed to Greenville) and got all of the above stations including WFXI at a signal strength of at least 80%. My receiver is a D* HR20-700 (may be part of the problem as this box does not have the best HD tuner in the world). I can always fall back on 14 for FOX on my D* HD locals package but I would rather use WFXI for Fox OTA as it has Dolby 5.1 channel sound capability.

WFXI reception here in Hubert has definitely been my Achilles heel since starting this OTA antenna project 2 years ago!

The WFXI transmit tower is located way east of Morehead, over open ground farm near north of Davis. You will need a VHF to pick it up pointed due east or slightly north of east.

VHF can be directional, and the signal out of there has always been directional toward the northeast.

I have lost WFXI also unfortunately, but it is my own fault. lol I knew this was likely to happen.

I need some help from the antenna guys for getting something for a tractor trailer. I don't know much about any of this, so your help and patience is appreciated.

My father drives a 18-wheeler and has a omni-directional antenna installed. From what I can tell it's an Antennacraft, and no idea how old it is, but at least 10yrs or more. He drives up and down the East Coast, and has always gotten great reception wherever he went. He doesn't care to lock on to a signal and keep it for long distances, but rather just pick up the local stations as he passes from city to city (loves to have the local news playing).

Now that the transition has taken place, his reception is very weak to not even watchable. He's got two tv's, one LCD with tuner built in, and one with a converter box. What's really different vs analog, is that if he's sitting still, he can acquire a decent-strong signal, but once he is driving, it breaks up and eventually loses the signal. What does he need to buy to fit his needs? He is only interested in OTA signals, satellite (or any pay service) is not an option at this point. I found this http://www.antennacraft.net/HDView360.html, but don't know if he has to constantly "tune" it...just want it to work without intervention.

I searched around looking for the right place to post this, but couldn't find a suitable area. Lurking in this thread for a long time, I've seen all the antenna talk, so I'm looking for any direction.

Thanks for any and all help.

A while back we had the discussion about those round flat antennas, and we basically decided they were useless for DTV. They cannot tame multi-path as Scott said.

I really don't know what to suggest in this situation, because I don't think there is a right way to go right now.

Thanks for all the replies on reception while moving. I'm fairly certain my dad will still purchase something in a last ditch effort to make his reception better, so I'm going to try and narrow down his choices to give him the best possible chance.

All replies mentioned multi-path as likely the main problem. Can you break it down in a few sentences what this is, and why it's the problem. Armed with that and Google, I can look for anything made to overcome it. I at least have to try!

Also, can you recommend any good local shops that sell the equipment we're talking about? We're in Rocky Mount, but willing to travel.

Pulling in Va stations tonight WRIC, WRLH from Richmond

All replies mentioned multi-path as likely the main problem. Can you break it down in a few sentences what this is, and why it's the problem. Armed with that and Google, I can look for anything made to overcome it. I at least have to try!

Multi-path is exactly what it sounds like, the TV signal is hitting the antenna from 2 (or more) different paths. Say you have a water tower at a 90° angle to your antenna. You antenna is picking up the signal from the TV transmitter and then it is also picking up the same, exact digital signal being reflected off of the water tower a couple of milliseconds later. This repeating of the digital stream confuses your tv receiver and it doesn't know what to do. It stops showing a picture at that point.

The mobile TV reception problem isn't an antenna issue. It's a receiver issue. In fact, if you get a better, stronger antenna the problem may get worse.

Pulling in Va stations tonight WRIC, WRLH from RichmondHahaha... I was getting your stations last night from Virginia Beach... WEPX, WITN, WRAY and yes WCTI and WNCT in the VHF band with my UHF-only CM4228...

Pulling in Va stations tonight WRIC, WRLH from Richmond

You have a 4228 correct? Are you able to pick up 11-1 now that it is VHF? I have lost it on my 4221. Thinking of upgrading antennas.

Can you give me your signals for:

5-1
11-1
17-1
28-1

Thanks

11-1 Getting about 35% when it is working.

Must Raleigh locals at night getting 60%-90%

11-1 Getting about 35% when it is working.

Must Raleigh locals at night getting 60%-90%

Ha ha! That's what I just posted in the Raleigh topic that I was getting WTVD at.:D

Ken, I was able to watch WFXI last night at 70%, but during the day, just about 3% too low to decode. shows like 25% and I need 28% at least.

Thanks for all the replies on reception while moving. I'm fairly certain my dad will still purchase something in a last ditch effort to make his reception better, so I'm going to try and narrow down his choices to give him the best possible chance.

All replies mentioned multi-path as likely the main problem. Can you break it down in a few sentences what this is, and why it's the problem. Armed with that and Google, I can look for anything made to overcome it. I at least have to try!

Also, can you recommend any good local shops that sell the equipment we're talking about? We're in Rocky Mount, but willing to travel.

Can you get all the main channels from ENC up in Rocky Mount?

Anybody using this antenna Winegard HD-1080 around here.

Ken

Ken,

What was the time frame for WYDO to changed over to its new digital channel? I thought you said it was August.

Now what is the differences going to be? Im assumming it is moving to Trenton. How much higher is the transmitter tower going to be?

Also whats the reason from moving from 21 to 47?

Friday when the analog 12 was cut off, I figured someone higher in the station would of shut it off instead of the reporter. Our you guys joking with him saying that he caused the outtage on digital 12?

On KCBS and KCALs website they got a 5-10 minute video of them preparing to shut down there 2 stations analog transmitters up on MT Wilson in L.A.
its pretty good.

Ken,

What was the time frame for WYDO to changed over to its new digital channel? I thought you said it was August.

Now what is the differences going to be? Im assumming it is moving to Trenton. How much higher is the transmitter tower going to be?

Also whats the reason from moving from 21 to 47?

Friday when the analog 12 was cut off, I figured someone higher in the station would of shut it off instead of the reporter. Our you guys joking with him saying that he caused the outtage on digital 12?

On KCBS and KCALs website they got a 5-10 minute video of them preparing to shut down there 2 stations analog transmitters up on MT Wilson in L.A.
its pretty good.
Hoping for mid July. 47 was available and able to use some existing equipment. 800 foot in Ayden 1800 foot in Trenton. I didn't want to be on air. The digital 12 problem was a shorted bullet took me a little while to find it

Were you on the news video that they aired about the problem?

Is there a advantage in certain channel #s?

WCTI Got a solid 100% signal here just east of Washington was about 70% prior to transition.


WYDO -Got a 76% signal

Using a uhf only antenna Channel Master 4228

I got to doing some thinking and research, and see that WCTI's digital antenna is circularly polarized. That in my opinion is what is making it so good on digital compared to the horizontally polarized VHF's.

Circularly polarized is supposed to be good for reception while in motion too.

Hoping for mid July. 47 was available and able to use some existing equipment. 800 foot in Ayden 1800 foot in Trenton. I didn't want to be on air. The digital 12 problem was a shorted bullet took me a little while to find it

Ken,

What do you think will happen with the old WYDO tower? Will you use it for another station maybe to go on the air, or could it become an FM radio station?

WTVD says that there signal is lower powered than thought and they are working with the FCC.

This explains why we are having trouble picking up 11.

go to WTVD web site and search DTV and they have a video about this.

jspENC,
I've had a brand new Winegard 8800 in storage in my attic for over 2 years now, and you inspired me to finally put it up today. What an antenna. I read the posts about yours and the good results that you've had with it, so I had to give mine a try. It's a shame that I didn't install it when I bought it! I was using a Radio Shack U-120 with a CM-7777 amp with good results in my attic, getting 5,7,9,11,12,17,22,25,28,30,38,40,47.and 50. But the signal strength was weak on both 9 and 12 though. With the 8800 combined with the CM-7777, I'm getting a signal strength of 92 on WNCT and 65 on WCTI. Before it was 55 for WNCT and 34 for WCTI. I thought the 8800 would do well on upper VHF, I just didn't think it would work THIS well!:D

jspENC,
I've had a brand new Winegard 8800 in storage in my attic for over 2 years now, and you inspired me to finally put it up today. What an antenna. I read the posts about yours and the good results that you've had with it, so I had to give mine a try. It's a shame that I didn't install it when I bought it! I was using a Radio Shack U-120 with a CM-7777 amp with good results in my attic, getting 5,7,9,11,12,17,22,25,28,30,38,40,47.and 50. But the signal strength was weak on both 9 and 12 though. With the 8800 combined with the CM-7777, I'm getting a signal strength of 92 on WNCT and 65 on WCTI. Before it was 55 for WNCT and 34 for WCTI. I thought the 8800 would do well on upper VHF, I just didn't think it would work THIS well!:D

:p:eek::D:cool:

WTVD says that there signal is lower powered than thought and they are working with the FCC.

This explains why we are having trouble picking up 11.

go to WTVD web site and search DTV and they have a video about this.

Foxeng at WGHP DT 8 in Greensboro has applied with the FCC to get off 8 VHF and back to 35 because of the signal problems people are having there. Not sure why exactly some VHF channels do OK, and others don't, but I think power and polarization are things that need to be investigated. Obviously the signal contour maps the FCC generated are drastically over drawn for what they should be.

Still at my aunts house near Clinton, they could get WNCT DT 10 with a VHF/UHF antenna at 80 some percent, and they are supposed to be near fringe. So that shows some high stations are good.

Ken,

How much power is WCTI and WFXI running?

I emailed Rebecca Baldwin and Tribune Media and got WEPX-DT channel data added. Directv only had WEPX-DT 38.1.

They added 38.2 and 38.4 today but left out 38.3. Ive sent her another email about 38.3 ion life guide data missing from the Directv guides. Hopefully in a couple of days they will get it corrected.

Im down in the Myrtle Beach area camping at the Willow Tree RV Resort this week. Its nice to see Jamie Arnold on WMBF. There HD News is very good, just as good as WRAL.

Great to see all the over the air channels in this market. Using a small antenna but getting Wilmington channels and MB channels.

Im down in the Myrtle Beach area...Did you get my PM?

Im down in the Myrtle Beach area camping at the Willow Tree RV Resort this week. Its nice to see Jamie Arnold on WMBF. There HD News is very good, just as good as WRAL.

Great to see all the over the air channels in this market. Using a small antenna but getting Wilmington channels and MB channels.

Cool. Yep, the Wilmington channels look good. Never pulled in WMBF because of WITN having the same channel.

I am getting WFXB FOX 43 right now. It comes in every night.

I emailed Rebecca Baldwin and Tribune Media and got WEPX-DT channel data added. Directv only had WEPX-DT 38.1.

They added 38.2 and 38.4 today but left out 38.3. Ive sent her another email about 38.3 ion life guide data missing from the Directv guides. Hopefully in a couple of days they will get it corrected.


When you say "added" do you mean it will now show up on my AM21? Added to the database?

Yes to the data base, just got a email about 38.3, said they are working on it now and it could be on today.

Can someone with directv with over the air check the guide and see it 38.3 has been added.

You must have over the air antenna setup thru your hd box.

Last night I was watching WYDO and the audio was terribly distorted. Bad setting somewhere.

I have bought a Slingbox HD and its built-in tuner can pick up the analog and digital basic cable signals. I cannot find anywhere a list of TWCs
digital channels that are accessible without a TWC digital box. Through trial and error I have found that 7.1, 7.2, 9.1, 9.2 are there, and WCTI shows up on 100.3. Can anyone point me to a list showing the rest? The slingbox tuner picks up 200 digital channels when tuning most of which have no signal, so it's slow going finding the actual viewable channels...

Last night I was watching WYDO and the audio was terribly distorted. Bad setting somewhere.

I think I found the problem it was a bad card in our flexicoder giving me intermitent distorted audio. Reseting the card would fix the problem then it would act up again sometimes after only a few hours sometimes it would last a couple of days. I have now swapped it out and will monitor it for a few days to make sure.

Been working on getting WYDO moved to Trenton we are still looking good for mid July the big hold up is the antenna. It should be here on the 14th of July then a day or 2 to get it installed and tested. If everything goes right we should be good to go.

Ken

I think I found the problem it was a bad card in our flexicoder giving me intermitent distorted audio. Reseting the card would fix the problem then it would act up again sometimes after only a few hours sometimes it would last a couple of days. I have now swapped it out and will monitor it for a few days to make sure.

Been working on getting WYDO moved to Trenton we are still looking good for mid July the big hold up is the antenna. It should be here on the 14th of July then a day or 2 to get it installed and tested. If everything goes right we should be good to go.

Ken

Cool. Thanks for the update on the move. I miss seeing Fox ENC news & weather most evenings.

Can someone with directv with over the air check the guide and see it 38.3 has been added.

You must have over the air antenna setup thru your hd box.

I tried an initial setup last night after I got home. I picked up 38.2 and 38.4 but still no 38.3.

No 38-3; 1, 2 & 4 are on the guide. However I don't pick-up any of them.

I note WCTI-DT has asked to increase power from 32.8 kW to 38.7 kW.

- Trip

I note WCTI-DT has asked to increase power from 32.8 kW to 38.7 kW.

- Trip

Yes we did apply to increase power on WCTI we are having some issues with viewers in Morehead Greenville and Pamlico County using indoor antennas and are hoping that this would help if granted my current transmitter has more than enough power so we could quickly be at the new power.

Ken

Yes we did apply to increase power on WCTI we are having some issues with viewers in Morehead Greenville and Pamlico County using indoor antennas and are hoping that this would help if granted my current transmitter has more than enough power so we could quickly be at the new power.

KenI'm watching you guys this morning in Virginia Beach on a CM4228 in my attic. Also getting WNCT (and WITN, WEPX)...

I'm watching you guys this morning in Virginia Beach on a CM4228 in my attic. Also getting WNCT (and WITN, WEPX)...

Is that normal for you or do you think it is atmospherics.

Ken

Is that normal for you or do you think it is atmospherics.

Ken:-) Not normal then again I usually don't have the antenna pointed that way...

I tried to take a look at an estimated coverage map on the FCC site regarding the request for the WCTI power increase, but I get a blank image. I assume the increase would extend the coverage of the station by two miles or so further than what they show now. However, once you get out over 80 miles, it becomes difficult anyway to get an antenna high enough to pull down a reliable signal. I don't know much about indoor antennas other than they don't work for me. Insulation, siding, brick, metal and wiring can all ruin a signal. It seems to me that people are going to HAVE to put forth more effort and get higher up in the attic or closet with their antennas or get it outside, even if it's only five feet high, and even if it's a simple "Rabbit Ear." If you live on a hill, you've got it made. I can say that from experience. Right now I live kind of low, and without an outdoor aerial, I would get almost nothing.

Foxeng has also found that FM traps are helping, and also another found using channel 4 on the conversion box helped too (IF you use the coax port).

WITN-TV to sign off officially Friday afternoon.

Got word from WITN that they will shut off analog 7 Friday afternoon around 3pm. They will shut off with the old end of the day national anthem that they used to air and then flip the switch.

WEPX-DT3 guide data now added to Directv over the air listings

one-two-three-four-thank God...

I have a local station question; it's a little off topic thus I apologize in advance. The question is how much autonomy do local anchors have editing/reporting the news?
Thanks

WITN-TV to sign off officially Friday afternoon.

Got word from WITN that they will shut off analog 7 Friday afternoon around 3pm. They will shut off with the old end of the day national anthem that they used to air and then flip the switch.

Did anyone see WITN-TV sign off at 3 pm? Interesting how they ended: "This concludes operation of WITN analog channel 7. Good day and goodbye."

I see they posted the video on their history page, along with an article from one of the engineers who helped sign on the station in 1955. Neat stuff. http://www.witn.com/station/misc/27442154.html#

I see they posted the video on their history page, along with an article from one of the engineers who helped sign on the station in 1955. Neat stuff. http://www.witn.com/station/misc/27442154.html#

The history page brings back memories growing up in Kinston in the 1960's. I was the WITNy Hobo Show twice. Once in B&W and once in color. Both times the studio lights blinded me. Those lights were BRIGHT.

My dad bought a RCA color console TV in 1964 just to watch the NBC Sunday night fare in color on WITN!

In the mid 70's while visiting my grandparents who lived outside of Grifton (we had moved to Fayetteville in 1969), I visited the transmitter site. That was a few years before they put up the current 2000 ft tower and still had the 1500 ft tower. It was as stock RCA turnkey transmitter site for the time. I remember it very well.

That's a very good history page. I noticed that ad top right about the new tower and circular polarization. :)

You don't see much about polarization anymore. I think 12 is the only station maybe in the state to have circular still...

They also mention Live Doppler radar, but it does no good when they don't use it. I saw on witn.com where people turned to Skip yesterday! That is rather embarrassing I think for people to make comments like that on a competitors website. A lot of damage for stations not to be on for their viewers.

Directv subs

Directv added BET HD

I live in Clayton and two weeks ago could get WNCT and WITN with a pair of rabbit ears. No luck with WCTI.

I live in Clayton and two weeks ago could get WNCT and WITN with a pair of rabbit ears. No luck with WCTI.


Do you still get them daily? You need an outdoor style VHF antenna for WCTI at your distance. I'm surprised the other two come in on a rabbit ear.

I will check tonight....been out of town but a few weeks ago I got them with no problems.

I have both an CM4228HD and CM4308 that I plan to put in my attic and point east and west just to see what I get.

I have WNCT and WITN with rabbit ears on my Dish Network 211 HD receiver in my bonus room. Both signals are in the mid 70s.

Tonight, I went and bought my 5 year old a DTV converter box so he can watch cartoons in his room. So I hooked up the same pair of rabbit ears to the DTV box in his room and could only get WITN (along with the RDU locals).

Here is a project I have in mind and could use some help.

I have a bonus room with HD projector. I have both an CM4228HD and CM4308 that I plan to put in my attic and point southeast and west just to see what I get. My plan so far is to run a 50' section of RG6 cable into a closet and up through the ceiling and into the attic. I need to run it to the other end of the house in order to avoid various metallic objects.

Can I run a simple splitter from the 50' cable to both antennas? If so, will that affect the signal at all?


My fear is I won't be able to pick up any additional channels to the west that I couldn't get with the same antenna pointing southeast, so if there's a negative effect of having two antennas I might just use one.

Any advice is appreciated.

GoWulfpack,

Try just the 4228 pointed toward ENC. You may have more than enough signal anyway coming off the back, and since you are at the Raleigh towers anyway, you will likely find that works just fine.

I think you will have a lot of distortion if you try to combine two antennas like that at your location. You can always try though. I would not use any pre amps.

I agree, just try the 4228. I have great reception here in Wilson with just one antenna aimed to the east, with plenty of signal from Garner on the backside of the antenna. Keep in mind that by using a splitter, you are losing signal strength.

Thanks for the replies. The whole reason why I wanted to point it to the west is so I could pick up WFMY out of Greensboro. However, at 83mi and in the attic it appears that will be a pipe dream at best.

You can combine 2 antennas but you have to make sure theyseperated on the horizintal plane by a half wave of the shortest wavelength you expect it to receive. On the verticle plane they need to be seperated by a full wave length of the shortest wavelength you expect to receive. See this for an explanation by an expert. -->> http://www.tvantenna.com/support/tutorials/combining.html

I do have 2 antennas in my garage attic. A 70" (or some length like that) RS and a 4228.

Directv added UNC-TV HD and UNC KD to the MPEG 4 local line up.
These channels are only available with MPEG 4 equipment Slim line dish/5 lnb dish.

UNC-TV HD CH 25
UNC-KD CH 25-2

Ken, Now that UNC has UNC KD and WNCT DT2 The CW is on Directv. Do you think there is a chance to get ENC-TV back on Directv?

Also Any chance of getting ENC changed over to RTN or THIS?
Alot markets are getting these 2 channels we do not have it yet.

WITN should add THIS and get rid of their weather channel. Everyone else is, so they might as well join the club.

Directv added UNC-TV HD and UNC KD to the MPEG 4 local line up.
These channels are only available with MPEG 4 equipment Slim line dish/5 lnb dish.

UNC-TV HD CH 25
UNC-KD CH 25-2Also available to the Virginia Beach-Norfolk market on channels 2 and 2-2...

WITN should add THIS and get rid of their weather channel. Everyone else is, so they might as well join the club.

I would rather have RTV. We have THIS in this market. Nothing on it I want to watch.

I get RTV on 3.2 and THIS on 26.2, and I watch THIS! LOL I guess it's just a matter of what you like... THIS has westerns and horror movies that I catch often times.

According to Trip,

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16757099#post16757099

WFXI wants to boost power as much as they can with their current transmitter. They have a permit for over 40kW

I just checked, and they have been Granted a power of 22.4kW as of today.

Ken when can we try to see if it makes a difference? Last night I was getting WFXI at 30% during news hour. It kept pixelating though.

I would seriously miss the WITN radar if they did away with the weather sub channel.

I would seriously miss the WITN radar if they did away with the weather sub channel.

Me too, even though their temp. reading for Jacksonville is four degrees too high, and has been for years. The Air station temp is too low. Like yesterday they said the high was 93, but at my place, the high was 95. For radar, I have to go back and forth between WITN WX and WECT WX because they both try to cut off Onslow county with the home setting of the radar map. My storms usually either come from due west or southwest.

Updated Directv locals line up

High Def line up

WITN 7 NBC HD
WNCT 9 CBS HD
WCTI 12 ABC HD
WYDO 14 FOX HD
WUNK 25 UNC/PBS HD

Standard def line up

WITN 7 NBC
WNCT 9 CBS
WCTI 12 ABC
WYDO 14 FOX
WNCT2 15 THE CW
WUNK 25 UNC/PBS
WUNK2 25.2 UNC KD
WDCW 384 THE CW (WASHINGTON DC)

WTVD ABC 11s news helicopter flew over my house today around 1:00, in Washington. They must of been flying to Ocracoke where the fire works truck exploded. About a hour later it came back by heading back to Durham.

A bit off topic,

Anybody have any ideas how I can be picking up audio off of the Sci-Fi channel with my scanner? I suspected cable tv leaking, but I hooked up my analog TV and scanned for cable channels and found nothing that way... I also checked my Directv feed, and the audio does not match. I am wondering now that analog TV has stopped transmitting, if analog cable TV leakage can travel a lot farther? I've heard of people being able to receive cable signals with their OTA antennas before.

What frequency is it on?

900 Mhz

904.3375 I believe. It is gone this morning.

That's secondary unlicensed spectrum. Some of those wireless video sending units use that spectrum--do you live close to anyone who might have one of those?

- Trip

That's secondary unlicensed spectrum. Some of those wireless video sending units use that spectrum--do you live close to anyone who might have one of those?

- Trip

Possibly, I am in a large neighborhood. The signal was a little weak, so it could have been coming from other streets over.

Me too, even though their temp. reading for Jacksonville is four degrees too high,Like yesterday they said the high was 93, but at my place, the high was 95.

Do your temps match at nighttime?

Do your temps match at nighttime?

No. What you see on TV as a "Jacksonville temp" is coming from the air station south of town, right on the water. That temperature is never as high as it should be on a summer day. It will say 90 for example, and at my house it is 92 because we in town are more inland, and away from the water. If you go even five minutes north of here to Western Blvd, it can be even hotter. That is where WITN has their instrument, and it is way up over their bureau across from the college, but at night is always 3 or 4 degrees too warm, and in the winter it's the same way. The airport also has a wx station, but it is labeled as "Richlands" on channel 12, but 3, 6, 7, and 9 do not label it as such, and just call it Jacksonville, but you are never positive on which site they are showing. Richlands is usually more in line with what I am seeing on my thermometer.

Anyone seen that announcement on 9 where it shows David Sawyer is back on the 27th? Never expected that would happen. It's almost like a soap opera anymore as to what will happen next.

I had David Sawyer as a science teacher in high school. He was on TV in the mornings and at noon and then taught class in the early afternoon. He's a really nice, down to earth guy... glad to see he's coming back to the area.

I had David Sawyer as a science teacher in high school. He was on TV in the mornings and at noon and then taught class in the early afternoon. He's a really nice, down to earth guy... glad to see he's coming back to the area.

I bet he was a good teacher. I always got a lot out of what he presented on TV.

Ken whats the status of WYDOs transition to Trenton?

working on it as we speak should know more in a couple of days

Looks like David Sawyer got out while the getting was good. The parent company of his old station down in Birmingham filed for chapter 11 yesterday.

Looks like David Sawyer got out while the getting was good. The parent company of his old station down in Birmingham filed for chapter 11 yesterday.

On WNCT viewer voice, they said David was with a sister station of theirs, but they (MG) sold that station to the one you mention that is going bankrupt not that long ago I guess? I didn't even realize MG had let it go until a conversation somewhere else on this forum where Trip pointed it out to me... Why would you buy a station that you can't afford? I must be missing something.

I noticed a lot of pixellation on WNCT HD through DirecTV last night. The program was recorded from a few hours earlier in the evening. Was there that bad a storm last night that I just missed?

The Greenville Daily Reflector paper has printed several letters since Phillip Williams departed WNCT. All of them are praising his work over the years and deriding channel 9 for letting him go.

I have a feeling there's a lot more eyes on Marvin's forecasts these days.

The Greenville Daily Reflector paper has printed several letters since Phillip Williams departed WNCT. All of them are praising his work over the years and deriding channel 9 for letting him go.

I have a feeling there's a lot more eyes on Marvin's forecasts these days.

Do you have a link to the letters on the Reflectors site, or were they just in the paper itself? I had been watching Phillip since the early 90's. I think Gannon is good, but it just isn't the same channel to me. I remember watching when they hardly did any news from Jacksonville area. It was mostly the northern portions of their viewing area they covered. I am watching WITN more, and have never really cared for their news, but am getting more into tuning them in now, and am watching 12 most of the time, especially the weather parts.

I found two letters on the reflector site.

The one from this week:
http://www.reflector.com/opinion/letter-still-missing-weatherman-williams-716733.html

Couple others I was able to find:
http://www.reflector.com/opinion/letter-dismissal-lets-down-community-700934.html

http://www.reflector.com/opinion/letter-missing-weatherman-is-missed-690339.html

The one from this week:
http://www.reflector.com/opinion/letter-still-missing-weatherman-williams-716733.html

Couple others I was able to find:
http://www.reflector.com/opinion/letter-dismissal-lets-down-community-700934.html

http://www.reflector.com/opinion/letter-missing-weatherman-is-missed-690339.html

Thanks. I agree with the letters. The action taken brings on a new meaning to "On my Side". They should dump that one.

Here is a response from Phillip Williams

For those that don't know, after 21 years as Chief meteorologist, my contract was not renewed. Through no fault of my own, they decided to make a change despite the November ratings which showed I was the most watched meteorologist at 6p and 11p. They informed me of their decision in January, My last day on-air was May 20th.

My future plans include developing a local weather oriented website at
www.pittcountylife.com

Im also getting my real estate license and intend to work with REMAX in Greenville within 2 or 3 months. Having taught Weather and Climate at ECU, Im considering teaching a weather seminar about Eastern NC weather in the coming months.
I want to thank all of those who have sent letters of support as well as all those who signed the petition to get me back. I appreciate the viewers and friends I have throughout Eastern NC.
Anyone wishing to reach me can do so through the www.PittCountyLife.com


websites " contact us" page.

Phillip Williams


Thanks Phillip for the response

Check out Phillips new site, he has his weather forcast up. Great site.

We now have WYDO on rf 47. It is not complete yet I am still testing it and it may be necessary to take it down for maintance but everything is looking good. We will probably make it official next week.

Ken

Are you up in Ayden and in Trenton?

Received both Ayden 21 and Trenton 47 late afternoon. 21 came in at 40% while Trenton was peaking at 93% convertor box. Full scale bars on my LCD for 47

WYDO-47 is coming in great here in Wilson. I'm 57 miles from the Trenton tower.

Here is Washington

14 (21) out of Ayden Im getting a signal about 75%
14 (47) out of Trenton Im getting a signal about 30%.

12 Im getting 100% out of Trenton.

Here is Washington

14 (21) out of Ayden Im getting a signal about 75%
14 (47) out of Trenton Im getting a signal about 30%.

12 Im getting 100% out of Trenton.

Are you sure you don't have them mixed up? I did originally. You may just need to tweak, cause I am still getting WYDO at 93 and 94% from Trenton. Nothing today from Ayden.

Tweaked the antenna getting full signal from 47.

Directv over the air tuner is pulling 21 from Ayden. There guide info is furnished by them and you cant scan in channels. I hope WCTI informs Directv so they can update the guide.

I'm still testing I will inform them when I'm sure everything holds up still waiting to get another Air conditioner installed.

Ken

Ken any plans to add a additonal sub channel to the 12.2 position.
Id love to see RTV or This added to our market.

I also dont see why Directv does not carry ENCTV. They carry WNCT2 The CW, WUNK2 UNCKD, they even carry WRAY nothing but infomercials.
Looks like your company would of got this added back when they had the dispute of WCTI HD.

Ken any plans to add a additonal sub channel to the 12.2 position.
Id love to see RTV or This added to our market.

I also dont see why Directv does not carry ENCTV. They carry WNCT2 The CW, WUNK2 UNCKD, they even carry WRAY nothing but infomercials.
Looks like your company would of got this added back when they had the dispute of WCTI HD.

Look for This to be coming soon on ENC

Ken

Ken any plans to add a additonal sub channel to the 12.2 position.
Id love to see RTV or This added to our market.

I also dont see why Directv does not carry ENCTV. They carry WNCT2 The CW, WUNK2 UNCKD, they even carry WRAY nothing but infomercials.
Looks like your company would of got this added back when they had the dispute of WCTI HD.

Jamieh1, Was there ever anything at 12.2 in the past?

Look for This to be coming soon on ENC

Ken

Ken, which part is coming to ENC?

Never had anything on 12-2 planed on a weather channel at one time. We will start ThisTV later this month not sure how many hours a day but they will increase as our existing contracts run out. I'll be working on that next week

Ken

DirecTV would only carry networks maybe when its ThisTV our company will try again.

Ken

www.this.tv

This channel is on WRAL 5.2, nice to see it coming to ENC.

Ive asked WITN about any possible changes to 7.2, they said they have things in the works, but cant announce anything offical yet.

I noticed some changes on 7.2 already. A lot more radar. I like it MUCH more that way.

Look for This to be coming soon on ENC

Ken

They have some good classics on there, or I should say on This. Movies from the MGM libraries.

There aren't many choices available right now in sub channel selecting, but I guess more will be available to chose from as time goes on. I miss THE TUBE music video channel that used to be available on WSFX. I hope something like that will happen again someday. I hate what MTV has done to their channe.

I miss THE TUBE music video channel that used to be available on WSFX. I hope something like that will happen again someday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheCoolTV

- Trip

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheCoolTV

- Trip

It looks interesting.:) I haven't researched anything really. Any other good choices out there?

I don't know if Bohemia Visual Music is still on the air, but then, I also don't think the programming is as appealing.

Outside of that, I don't know of any other music-style OTA networks.

- Trip

I don't know if Bohemia Visual Music is still on the air, but then, I also don't think the programming is as appealing.

Outside of that, I don't know of any other music-style OTA networks.

- Trip

Okay. I was thinking of any kind of sub channel in general. Like the "dot2" although I already knew about that one. Other than that, and Retro Net, I don't know of any other choices. I am not much of a fan of Retro net at this time. The programming isn't appealing to me other than an occasional Nancy Drew when there is nothing else on TV maybe. WNCN has a sports channel, but I don't care to watch swimming, and bicycle races etc.

Here's a good starting point: http://www.rabbitears.info/search.php?request=network_list

Most have at least a website if you click the name...

- Trip

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheCoolTV

- TripReally, who's going to watch this??? (to sustain profitabilty)

The new Fox 47.1 is coming in well here in Greenville (I have only an amplified rabbit ears indoor antenna). Previously I could not pick up Fox at 21.1 strong enough to generate a picture, the new frequency is fairly steady signal strength between 65-80.

I cannot pickup 12.1 ever and I even have trouble picking up 9.1 and 9.2! Those stations that broadcast on UHF come in much stronger (38.1-4, 25.1-3, 7.1-2 etc).

I hope to upgrade to an outdoor antenna soon but money is just too tight at the moment.

Anyone else recommend a decent antenna for use in the city? I used to live outside of Greenville and could pick up all of the Greenville and Raleigh area stations with the same antenna that I use now. Since moving into town my reception is greatly reduced.

The new Fox 47.1 is coming in well here in Greenville (I have only an amplified rabbit ears indoor antenna). Previously I could not pick up Fox at 21.1 strong enough to generate a picture, the new frequency is fairly steady signal strength between 65-80.

I cannot pickup 12.1 ever and I even have trouble picking up 9.1 and 9.2! Those stations that broadcast on UHF come in much stronger (38.1-4, 25.1-3, 7.1-2 etc).

I hope to upgrade to an outdoor antenna soon but money is just too tight at the moment.

Anyone else recommend a decent antenna for use in the city? I used to live outside of Greenville and could pick up all of the Greenville and Raleigh area stations with the same antenna that I use now. Since moving into town my reception is greatly reduced.

Can you tell me what model rabbit ears you have so I can look at the specs on it. An out door antenna that is a combo Hi VHF and UHF would be the best but I feel that a decent set of rabbit ears should work in Greenville. It is my understanding that a lot of the rabbit ears sold were marked as VHF / UHF but virtually have no gain on the VHF band. I have not had a chance to test any my self maybe one of the other members can make a recomendation.

Ken

My Air conditioner will be in on Wednesday I may have to reduce power on WYDO while the install is going on. I should be back up to full power before prime.

I will be taking all stations down for a couple hours overnight tonight to get ready for This TV. We will start airing This TV programing on the 27th I'm not up on the schedule yet but look for us to increase the number of hours in the fall.

Ken

My Air conditioner will be in on Wednesday I may have to reduce power on WYDO while the install is going on. I should be back up to full power before prime.

I will be taking all stations down for a couple hours overnight tonight to get ready for This TV. We will start airing This TV programing on the 27th I'm not up on the schedule yet but look for us to increase the number of hours in the fall.

Ken

Will you be aiming a dish or something to catch This?

The new Fox 47.1 is coming in well here in Greenville (I have only an amplified rabbit ears indoor antenna). Previously I could not pick up Fox at 21.1 strong enough to generate a picture, the new frequency is fairly steady signal strength between 65-80.

I cannot pickup 12.1 ever and I even have trouble picking up 9.1 and 9.2! Those stations that broadcast on UHF come in much stronger (38.1-4, 25.1-3, 7.1-2 etc).

I hope to upgrade to an outdoor antenna soon but money is just too tight at the moment.

Anyone else recommend a decent antenna for use in the city? I used to live outside of Greenville and could pick up all of the Greenville and Raleigh area stations with the same antenna that I use now. Since moving into town my reception is greatly reduced.I live 4 miles south of Ahoskie and pickup Greenville thru the back of a Channel Master 4228 with a 90 signal. I usually pickup 12 and sometimes now I get wydo on 47. A 4228 is supposed to be a uhf antenna, but it does very well on channels 7-13 vhf. It is also very light, easy to handle and the wind blows thru it which reduces danger of wind damage. Any questions, feel free to ask. Best source for 4228 is Solidsignal.com. Where you live a 4221 may be enough which is smaller and cheaper.

Can you tell me what model rabbit ears you have so I can look at the specs on it. An out door antenna that is a combo Hi VHF and UHF would be the best but I feel that a decent set of rabbit ears should work in Greenville. It is my understanding that a lot of the rabbit ears sold were marked as VHF / UHF but virtually have no gain on the VHF band. I have not had a chance to test any my self maybe one of the other members can make a recomendation.

Ken

I have the Radio Shack Model 15-1892. I can't post a link to it because I am a new member here.

I live 4 miles south of Ahoskie and pickup Greenville thru the back of a Channel Master 4228 with a 90 signal. I usually pickup 12 and sometimes now I get wydo on 47. A 4228 is supposed to be a uhf antenna, but it does very well on channels 7-13 vhf. It is also very light, easy to handle and the wind blows thru it which reduces danger of wind damage. Any questions, feel free to ask. Best source for 4228 is Solidsignal.com. Where you live a 4221 may be enough which is smaller and cheaper.

Thanks for the recommendation. I have seen some reviews of the Channelmaster 4228 that are quite favorable.
Questions:
1) Do you use an amplifier and/or rotor with your 4228?
2) Is it attic or roof mounted? I am rather technically challenged and am looking for the easiest way to install.
3) I would really like to pick up the stations from the Raleigh market if possible, do you think the 4228 would accomplish this?

Thanks for the recommendation. I have seen some reviews of the Channelmaster 4228 that are quite favorable.
Questions:
1) Do you use an amplifier and/or rotor with your 4228?
2) Is it attic or roof mounted? I am rather technically challenged and am looking for the easiest way to install.
3) I would really like to pick up the stations from the Raleigh market if possible, do you think the 4228 would accomplish this?I do use an amplifier. Where you are located, I would probably just use a rotor. Mine is roof mounted. I believe there are people who have posted on this forum from Greenville who pick up the Raleigh stations with the 4228. Scroll to the top and do a cm 4228 Greenville-Raleigh dmas search. I think you will find it.

Will you be aiming a dish or something to catch This?

No allready have it tuned in on a dish just need to program some switchers and our automation system.

Ken

I have the Radio Shack Model 15-1892. I can't post a link to it because I am a new member here.

Just looked at it and just from the picture I can tell you it sucks for vhf you want one that looks like regular rabbit ears.

Ken

My Air conditioner will be in on Wednesday I may have to reduce power on WYDO while the install is going on. I should be back up to full power before prime.

I will be taking all stations down for a couple hours overnight tonight to get ready for This TV. We will start airing This TV programing on the 27th I'm not up on the schedule yet but look for us to increase the number of hours in the fall.

Ken

Was 47 off for a while last night? I was able to get WYDO on 21 last night at 60%, and WCTI at 50%, but got nothing on 47. 12 and 47 are now at the same location right?

I was amazed at how many more channels (11 vs 29) I was able to get at 10pm last night rather thanm 6pm. I was able to pickup (but barely) WRAL, WRAY?, and WTVD and another set of ION channels.

Thanks for the recommendation. I have seen some reviews of the Channelmaster 4228 that are quite favorable.
Questions:
1) Do you use an amplifier and/or rotor with your 4228?
2) Is it attic or roof mounted? I am rather technically challenged and am looking for the easiest way to install.
3) I would really like to pick up the stations from the Raleigh market if possible, do you think the 4228 would accomplish this?



Thought I'd comment on this. The new china made 4228 is said to be inferior to the old USA brand Smithfield produced CM 4228. I considered the product a few m onths ago when I was buying a new ant. for the transition. Myself and another poster from WIlson, (I'm in Jacksonville) use a Winegard HD 8800, and have had fantastic results with it. It is also quite a bit cheaper than the 4228, and is very light. Go back ten or so pages and look at my experiences if you are intertested.

Alright... I think I am finally ready to get rid of cable and go with Dish (Embarq is offering a great deal on Internet, phone, TV combined). First, I noticed Dish does not carry WRAL as a local channel to Greenville. Secondly, UNC-TV is showing up as channel 19, not 25. Thirdly, where are the side car channels for PBS like UNC kids? I have an antenna. Does the Dish connection equipment have the ability for me to multiplex their signal with whats coming in over the antenna and distribute this out to every TV in my home?

Thought I'd comment on this. The new china made 4228 is said to be inferior to the old USA brand Smithfield produced CM 4228. I considered the product a few m onths ago when I was buying a new ant. for the transition. Myself and another poster from WIlson, (I'm in Jacksonville) use a Winegard HD 8800, and have had fantastic results with it. It is also quite a bit cheaper than the 4228, and is very light. Go back ten or so pages and look at my experiences if you are intertested.Thanks for that reminder Jsp. I had forgotten that.

Alright... I think I am finally ready to get rid of cable and go with Dish (Embarq is offering a great deal on Internet, phone, TV combined). First, I noticed Dish does not carry WRAL as a local channel to Greenville. Secondly, UNC-TV is showing up as channel 19, not 25. Thirdly, where are the side car channels for PBS like UNC kids? I have an antenna. Does the Dish connection equipment have the ability for me to multiplex their signal with whats coming in over the antenna and distribute this out to every TV in my home?Yes and No. If you get a dual tuner receiver, but keep it on what they call single mode, the ota channels will go to every tv if connected to the tv2 connection on the back. However, if you change it to dual mode, it will only be on the main tv. Confused? When you get the receiver, you will know what I mean.

Hate to see this

www.witn.com/home/headlines/51308347.html

Hate to see this

www.witn.com/home/headlines/51308347.html

Yeah, just saw that. - wow - not good

What is it about the weather guys lately? Looks like more changes may happen after reading all that. Weather is like a soap opera around here...

The story is also on WNCT -

Yes we did apply to increase power on WCTI we are having some issues with viewers in Morehead Greenville and Pamlico County using indoor antennas and are hoping that this would help if granted my current transmitter has more than enough power so we could quickly be at the new power.

Ken

Ken, Any news on the power increase for WCTI? I live in Greenville and ever since the digital transition, I've been getting a lot lower signal strength. Hope it's soon?

I don't know if it's me, or if it has just recently been done, but I was noticing some stereo surround on WCTI yesterday during localized programming. It sounded really good. I know 12 never had stereo in the analog days.

We now have WYDO on rf 47. It is not complete yet I am still testing it and it may be necessary to take it down for maintance but everything is looking good. We will probably make it official next week.

Ken


I just did a rescan with my D* HR20-700 receiver and am picking up 14-1 WYDO for the first time ever (signal strength 85%) here in Hubert! Many thanks Ken for your efforts in getting this going as I much prefer getting my locals OTA (though I am also grateful to D* for finally getting the locals in HD to us).

Any chance we will ever get Dolby 5.1 like WFXI has? That would be the icing on a wonderful cake! :)

Check with my wifes aunt in Belhaven that could not get WFXI or WYDO since the digital transition is now getting WYDO. She is getting a good signal.

Any chance we will ever get Dolby 5.1 like WFXI has? That would be the icing on a wonderful cake! :)

I was kind of hoping that maybe they could make WYDO the digital sound station and not WFXI after 14 came up since more people will be served with that. Maybe not.

FOX is coming up with a new splicer in the fall months I believe, so maybe then both can do DD sound? I don't know how satellite stations and the splicers work. I have seen many stations of FOX have two streams of audio, one english and one espanole.:rolleyes:

I just did a rescan with my D* HR20-700 receiver and am picking up 14-1 WYDO for the first time ever (signal strength 85%) here in Hubert! Many thanks Ken for your efforts in getting this going as I much prefer getting my locals OTA (though I am also grateful to D* for finally getting the locals in HD to us).

Any chance we will ever get Dolby 5.1 like WFXI has? That would be the icing on a wonderful cake! :)

We do hope to purchase a second splicer for WYDO when they become available hopefully early next year. That will give us 5.1

Ken

My Air Conditioner was installed yesterday and all is working fine. I am pleased with the results we are getting on rf 47. I have contacted the cable companies and DirecTV and they will be starting to switch over to 47. I have also contacted the guide service for Direc and hopefully they will remap the off air chanells on the boxes that have an off air antenna. I will be able to tell when they do that because I have one. Right now it is my intention to turn off rf 21 at noon on the 30th of July. We will start running promos directing people to rescan.

Ken

I have seen many stations of FOX have two streams of audio, one english and one espanole.:rolleyes:

FOX does provide English and Spanish via the splicer, if the station has FOX configure the splicer to pass Spanish. Being a former O & O, SAP on analog and Spanish on digital was a must for us, FTS required us to because of baseball having Spanish announcers on SAP. We still pass the second channel, even now in digital.

My Air Conditioner was installed yesterday and all is working fine. I am pleased with the results we are getting on rf 47. I have contacted the cable companies and DirecTV and they will be starting to switch over to 47. I have also contacted the guide service for Direc and hopefully they will remap the off air chanells on the boxes that have an off air antenna. I will be able to tell when they do that because I have one. Right now it is my intention to turn off rf 21 at noon on the 30th of July. We will start running promos directing people to rescan.

Ken

Outstanding Ken.

Do you often get reports of people picking up 12 or 47 outside the predicted FCC contour? I doubt many people have antennas at 30 ft around here or more, but inland as the land gets a bit higher, I would expect those places to have better chances than eastern most areas. I am going to try and take my box and rabbit ears deep inland and see if I have luck with ENC stations soon. I can put my U-75R in the trunk of the car for UHF too.:D

Outstanding Ken.

Do you often get reports of people picking up 12 or 47 outside the predicted FCC contour? I doubt many people have antennas at 30 ft around here or more, but inland as the land gets a bit higher, I would expect those places to have better chances than eastern most areas. I am going to try and take my box and rabbit ears deep inland and see if I have luck with ENC stations soon. I can put my U-75R in the trunk of the car for UHF too.:D

Unrortunaly I get very few reports of people picking us up usually I only get reports when they can't.

Ken

I see more and more pixellation with the signal passed through DirecTV, Ken. Are you aware of any issues with them picking up the signal for WCTI HD for retransmission?

I regularly record one show off the channel and it almost always has pixellation: 5-10 times for at least a few seconds each during Wipeout. I didn't know if I was the only one seeing it.

I see more and more pixellation with the signal passed through DirecTV, Ken. Are you aware of any issues with them picking up the signal for WCTI HD for retransmission?

I regularly record one show off the channel and it almost always has pixellation: 5-10 times for at least a few seconds each during Wipeout. I didn't know if I was the only one seeing it.

I hate to admit it but I do watch wipeout through DirecTV and I havenot seen any pixellation issues. I watched it last night and didn't see any.

Ken

Directv guide has THIS program listings up on 12.3
7/27
Appears THIS programming starts at 8pm-10pm for one movie then jumps back to ENC programming, then back to THIS at 2am-6am.

Same each day.
Ken how about firing up 12.2 for full time THIS.

Directv guide has THIS program listings up on 12.3
7/27
Appears THIS programming starts at 8pm-10pm for one movie then jumps back to ENC programming, then back to THIS at 2am-6am.

Same each day.
Ken how about firing up 12.2 for full time THIS.

They will have more on in the fall. I would have to take bandwidth away from WCTI and really don't want to do that.

Ken

Ken, Not sure if you saw my question above but was wondering if you heard any new news on the power increase for WCTI?

Ever since the digital transition, I've been having trouble getting a steady signal in Greenville. Well I mean I can get a good signal when my antenna pointed a certain way but when I do that, I can't pick up the other local channels in the area. Before, I had the antenna in the same direction and had great signal for all locals. Thanks for the update!

Ken, Not sure if you saw my question above but was wondering if you heard any new news on the power increase for WCTI?

Ever since the digital transition, I've been having trouble getting a steady signal in Greenville. Well I mean I can get a good signal when my antenna pointed a certain way but when I do that, I can't pick up the other local channels in the area. Before, I had the antenna in the same direction and had great signal for all locals. Thanks for the update!

No word on the power increase yet.

Ken

No word on the power increase yet.

Ken

What's the usual time period for a power increase? I know the FCC has to review it, etc. Do you have any clue?

It varies. In this case, WCTI is asking for power above the FCC's power limit. Who knows when or if it will be granted.

- Trip

WNCT OTA disappeared in Swansboro last night 25 JUL, and still is unavailable Sun morning. We have had great reception on 9.1 and 9.2 since the changeover. I was pleased since we never could receive
Anyone else with the same problem?

I'm getting WNCT just fine in Jacksonville. You may have a cell phone tower or something causing issues down that way.

Looks like WITN brought back the National WX service storm info and color coded map w/ radar. I suggested it on their website. Thanks WITN.:)

jspenc, thanks for the reply.
AFAIK, no new cell towers or other construction that might have affected Channel 9 signal in Swansboro... Still no reception of WNCT as of Sunday evening.
It's a mystery. I will check back in later this week.

JSPENC, could you tell me what kind of antenna you are using, please?

JSPENC, could you tell me what kind of antenna you are using, please?

http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_display.asp?PROD=HD-8800

It's a UHF antenna, but I filled in the gap you see in the reflector down the middle vertically and it turned it into a super UHF/VHF antenna.:D

Consider checking the balun at the antenna terminals and see that your coax hasn't been infiltrated with water. That will ruin your reception.

What kind of antenna do you use?

Jsp, what did you use to fill the gap vertically?

Dont forget David Sawyers return tonight.

Jsp, what did you use to fill the gap vertically?

You can get the full story about 8 or 10 pages back, but I used some mesh screen cut to about three inches wide to as long as the antenna is and used some plastic zip ties to secure it. This made quite the difference when I measured the signal strength of channel 10 (9.1)

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Dont forget David Sawyers return tonight.
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Yea, and my personal opinion is if he is anything like he used to be, he will make all others look like they are amateurs. Too bad him and Phillip aren't on competing. That would be good.

I just ran a 25ft line of RG6 to a pair of rabbit ears sitting in an upstairs window sill and for the first time ever, I've got WYDO and WCTI.

Strangely enough, I no longer have WNCT or WITN which I had been getting.

??

LOL....you can throw in WPDE out of Florence too. Must be due to the clouds.

I just ran a 25ft line of RG6 to a pair of rabbit ears sitting in an upstairs window sill and for the first time ever, I've got WYDO and WCTI.

Strangely enough, I no longer have WNCT or WITN which I had been getting.

??

Must be the direction the window is pointing? If you had a combo high VHF/UHF up in your attic or on the roof, you could probably get them all consistent.

Not too long ago, for the first time I got WYDO with a perfect picture all day, and no SNOW! :eek::D

I was concerned about WYDO being on 47 and what effects it would have to my reception of WWAY on 46 and WRAL, but I can't really tell that WYDO has hurt anything.

Well my compass says the window points 36 degrees which isn't towards any of them. I have a 4228HD I'm putting in the attic this weekend.

I use an el cheapo set of rabbit ears, and my reception has been top notch. Amazingly, 1080 looks really great on my 35" CRT.
I notice in one of your posts that 9.1 is mapped to channel 10. I will see if remapping will solve my lack of reception.
I have been considering a Winegard or Channel Master for up in the attic. Thanks for the info, JSPENC.

I wish the wife would let me install one in the attic! I don't know how in the world I'm getting away with one of these in the kitchen!

http://www.buy.com/prod/pro-brand-directv-2-bay-uhf-antenna-pro-brand-directv-2-bay-uhf-antenna/q/loc/111/202827678.html

It works great by the way for the channels around here but would love to be able to pick up Raleigh stations...

Ah well, still no WNCT in Swansboro, but I did finally pick up WYDO this evening, thank you very much, Ken.
The down side is that I have to hold the UHF portion of the rabbit ears to make a clean reception. LOL
Looks like the rabbit ears will have to be replaced by a bona fide antenna soon.

DirecTV is now carrying 47 for WYDO and I have notified Tribune wich should update the over the air portion of the recievers. They told me it will take a couple of days. Thanks for the reception reports. It is our plan to turn off 21 on Thursayday at noon.

Ken

DirecTV is now carrying 47 for WYDO and I have notified Tribune wich should update the over the air portion of the recievers. They told me it will take a couple of days. Thanks for the reception reports. It is our plan to turn off 21 on Thursayday at noon.

Ken

Thanks for the update Ken.

I have a DirecTV OTA receiver in north G-ville. Right now I am barely locking in YDO most of the time. Let me know when I can rescan and I'll give you a signal update.

Ah well, still no WNCT in Swansboro, but I did finally pick up WYDO this evening, thank you very much, Ken.
The down side is that I have to hold the UHF portion of the rabbit ears to make a clean reception. LOL
Looks like the rabbit ears will have to be replaced by a bona fide antenna soon.


Wow. I'm surprised you got WNCT at all down in Swansboro with indoor rabbit ears. In one room opposite the tower direction, I could get WNCT with rabbit ears held up in the air, but not in a north pointing room. Must be well insulated or something at that end. I tried WCTI with the ears after they came up on 12, and it would come in, but took a lot of work... :eek:

I still don't have a plan of action on how to get TV if a hurricane starts moving in. Thinking about a handheld set, but may end up with a radio. lol

On one of my DirecTV recievers I reinitilized the local channels this morning and I am now getting 14-1(47) on that reciever. I am going to wait and see if my other DirecTV recievers do it on there own. I am also trying to get them to remove 14-2 from the listing that did not appear to work. I'll wait a couple of more days and call them again. I'll check my Media Center PC when I get home to see if it gets the new data I believe it also gets it data from Tribune.

Ken

Ken,

Are those new switchers you put in for This TV what's giving WCTI and This ENC such great stereo sound? Whatever you did sure sounds good. Right now your sound is better than any of the others in the market on localized stuff. WYDO still sounds mono last I checked. WNCT sounds awful lately. I have to turn the sound way up.

WNCT sounds awful lately. I have to turn the sound way up.

NCT, at least on Dish Network's SD offering, isn't the same volume in both channels. One is considerably lower but I can't remember which.

Ken,

Are those new switchers you put in for This TV what's giving WCTI and This ENC such great stereo sound? Whatever you did sure sounds good. Right now your sound is better than any of the others in the market on localized stuff. WYDO still sounds mono last I checked. WNCT sounds awful lately. I have to turn the sound way up.

No just had to do some recabeling after I turned off analog. I'll probably be able to do more with WYDO later when I recable WFXI and WYDO.

Ken

NCT, at least on Dish Network's SD offering, isn't the same volume in both channels. One is considerably lower but I can't remember which.

The sounds been like that before on 9.1 and CW. Something must not be connected right, or something is going bad. It is really a pain to listen to it like that.

Well....none of the channels today that I got yesterday. Oh well.


I still don't know why I can't get WITN or WNCT anymore.

Well....none of the channels today that I got yesterday. Oh well.


I still don't know why I can't get WITN or WNCT anymore.

You're just too far... That and you have to be a Pirates fan... :D

When you put your 4228 up and point it ESE you should be able to get all of the Greenville stations including 12 and 14.

My other DirecTV recievers updated on there own so they are now all picking up WYDO on 47. My MediaCenter PC has not updated even after forcing an update. I'll try again tonight. Does anyone have any insight to where they are getting there data from I was told it was Tribune but have not been able to confirm this.

Ken

You're just too far... That and you have to be a Pirates fan... :D

When you put your 4228 up and point it ESE you should be able to get all of the Greenville stations including 12 and 14.

But I got WITN and WNCT a few weeks ago.


Pirate fan? What's that? :cool:

My other DirecTV recievers updated on there own so they are now all picking up WYDO on 47. My MediaCenter PC has not updated even after forcing an update. I'll try again tonight. Does anyone have any insight to where they are getting there data from I was told it was Tribune but have not been able to confirm this.

Ken

After a rescan (initial setup) I was able to get 47. Wow, upper 80%s. That's the strongest I've ever got YDO. Of course, I am pointed to Raleigh - so can't expect perfection.

Thanks, Ken - Still planning on Thurs. noon for pulling the plug on 21?