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Alan Gordon

05-30-07, 02:29 PM

IMHO Food Network HD is hardly a waste of bandwith. Isn't the CW (Now that is a waste of space, my opinion again) still being carried as an analog channel? Get rid of that and you make room for 2 more HD channels.

I waited years to get the WB after losing it on DirecTV after "Superstation WGN" stopped carrying their programming, and I waited a couple of years to get UPN. I finally get UPN, and they cancel "Enterprise," but that's all right, I still have "Veronica Mars."

They merge into The CW, that's cool, even though I'm disappointed by the lack of "Everwood." I finally receive "The CW," and get to watch some of my favorite shows only to learn that this Fall, I will no longer be able to see "Gilmore Girls" or "Veronica Mars" as they will be joining "7th Heaven" and "Reba" in the cancelled bins.

Sure, I still have "Supernatural" and "Smallville," but "Smallville" isn't as good as it used to be leaving me with only "Supernatural" being a show I care that much about.

Hopefully, "Reaper" and "Gossip Girl" will be decent, but "Reaper" will probably get cancelled pretty fast...

Oh well, it's a shame, but I do believe NBC will retake the lead over the CW network in shows watched for the first time in years...

~Alan

richall01

05-30-07, 03:17 PM

Will we be able to get WTXL HD OTA in Lake Park?

dsmith901

05-30-07, 03:25 PM

I've said it before, I'll say it again, Sci-Fi isn't available in HD yet.

They should be this Fall/Winter, but not yet...

Also, FoodHD and HGTV-HD are some of the few HD channels out now not carried by Comcast...

~Alan

Yeah, I remember you telling me that about SciFi, guess I forgot. But if any independent channel should be HD, SciFi is the one. FYI, Comcast now carries FoodHD and HGTV-HD, as of today in fact. I would like to think they will add SciFi this fall when it does go HD.

I went home for lunch today and checked WTXL on Comcast 431 and it (The View) was not a HD signal because my Panny plasma had the gray sidebars and could change aspect, something it will not do on HD signals, which shows imbedded black sidebars on SD content. I will check again tonight on a prme time network show and see if it is HD for real.

BadMojo11

05-30-07, 04:11 PM

IMHO Food Network HD is hardly a waste of bandwith. Isn't the CW (Now that is a waste of space, my opinion again) still being carried as an analog channel? Get rid of that and you make room for 2 more HD channels.

Food Network is one of the best channels on Comcast. I agree CW blows.

Sci-Fi? Haven't watched if for many years. Just an afterthought now.

Alan Gordon

05-30-07, 05:45 PM

Yeah, I remember you telling me that about SciFi, guess I forgot. But if any independent channel should be HD, SciFi is the one.

I agree!!

FYI, Comcast now carries FoodHD and HGTV-HD, as of today in fact.

My point was that after checking Comcast's channel lineup for Tallahassee online shows that besides West Coast versions of the movie channels, Comcast is only missing:

1. HDNet (which is a shame, really!)
2. HDNet Movies (which is also a shame!)
3. NFL Network HD
4. Lifetime Movie Network HD
5. Outdoor Network HD (or something like that)
6. Playboy HD
7. The Movie Channel HD
8. Wealth-HD

Compared to a lot of providers, that's saying a lot. This Fall, however, will change quite a bit as A LOT of channels plan on going HD this Fall:

Animal Planet, Big Ten Network HD, Bravo-HD, Cartoon Network HD, Chiller-HD, CNBC-HD, CNN-HD, Discovery Channel (simulcast), Discovery Science Channel, FX-HD, History Channel, RFD-HD, Sci-Fi-HD, Sleuth-HD, Speed-HD, Starz! Edge, Starz! Comedy, Starz Kids & Family, TBS-HD, TLC, TBN-HD, USA-HD, and The Weather Channel.

The Tennis Channel will start up in December.

Disney-HD, Toon Disney-HD, ABC Family-HD,
ESPN News, and MGM-HD will start up next Spring.

DirecTV has already agreed to carry the majority of these, so Comcast will have to get on the ball soon...

~Alan

Alan Gordon

05-30-07, 05:55 PM

Food Network is one of the best channels on Comcast. I agree CW blows.

Sci-Fi? Haven't watched if for many years. Just an afterthought now.

It's kind of funny how people's tastes differ, because of the HD channels not provided to me by DirecTV, only a few do I really care about. Don't get me wrong, I'll enjoy having them for the occasional viewing, but the only channels I really care about getting in HD are:

Sci-Fi HD
USA HD
CW-HD (even though most of my favorites have been cancelled, it still makes the list).

I would occasionally watch TBS-HD, and MGM-HD sounds interesting.

If The Cartoon Network were to air the Star Wars CGI animated series next year, HD would be very cool... and I enjoy ABC Family a lot, but I'm just not sure how great an HD channel would be for them given their schedule.

The rest aren't that interesting to me...

~Alan

OompaLoompa77

05-30-07, 07:59 PM

Is anyone in Valdosta able to pick up Channel 27 in Valdosta. I am only getting a signal of 16. I have a rooftop antenna. Getting CBS and FOX great.

BadMojo11

05-30-07, 09:08 PM

"Traveler" on ABC HD is supposed to be HD but doesn't look like it is to me. Anyone else care to comment?

1998Nole

05-30-07, 09:28 PM

I just spoke with Mike Plummer this morning and he said WTXL is indeed now full HD with local master control. And he confirmed Comcast has moved local HD channels to the 400's (WTXL is 431). He also said their HD audio is DD 5.1 (hooray!). But he also said to expect some glitches for a while as they get the new setup completely tweaked and working right. There was a problem with a HD card a few days ago but that was supposed to be replaced by today, so those of you who did not see HD should by this evening I guess.

Does Comcast have to do anything in order for ABC to air HD programming again besides air what WTXL sends to them? Also it looks like it is still SD tonight.

FYI, Comcast now carries FoodHD and HGTV-HD

I can't find them what channels are they on?

So now Comcast is wasting bandwidth....
It looks like channels 301 and 416 are both HBOHD, it looks like they duplicate all of the HD movie channels with 1 in the 300's and 1 in the 400's. Is this a waste of bandwidth or just the same channels mapped to 2 locations without somehow wasting bandwidth?

ClarenceR

05-31-07, 04:03 AM

Is anyone in Valdosta able to pick up Channel 27 in Valdosta. I am only getting a signal of 16. I have a rooftop antenna. Getting CBS and FOX great.
Me neither. You get a 16 signal strength w/a rooftop antenna meaning I've zero chance of getting it at home w/the Eagle Aspen UHF antenna indoors.

I also emailed Mr. Plummer last week about whether WTXL-DT's signal can reach Valdosta and I've got no response.

goat1976

05-31-07, 01:05 PM

After WTXL/ABC came back OTA a few days ago, it looks better (better than the Dish WTXL feed) but I still don't get antything in HD. I hope this changes soon.

dsmith901

05-31-07, 03:26 PM

Comcast is still carrying WTXL (ch 431) in SD (WTF!) and I called Mike Plummer early this morning to let him know. There is nothing to watch on WTXL until the fall anyway, but I would like to see them finally get their sh_t straight.

dsmith901

05-31-07, 03:29 PM

"Traveler" on ABC HD is supposed to be HD but doesn't look like it is to me. Anyone else care to comment?

I don't know about OTA, but it was not HD on Comcast (ch 431)- none of WTXL is HD on Comcast as of yet. I suggest you call Mike Plummer (894-6397) and complain. Maybe if enough of us raise a fuss they will do something about it.

goat1976

05-31-07, 03:39 PM

Ross Moody

05-31-07, 06:31 PM

Is anyone in Valdosta able to pick up Channel 27 in Valdosta. I am only getting a signal of 16. I have a rooftop antenna. Getting CBS and FOX great.

My Kitchen TV ,which in the shop, has the OTA tuner. Will post any ABC sightings if and when it(TV) returns from service.

AVPhan

06-01-07, 06:27 AM

"Traveler" on ABC HD is supposed to be HD but doesn't look like it is to me. Anyone else care to comment?

Started out in HD w no sound, then switched to upconverted SD for sound. I have not watched all of the program yet (both pilot and next episode).
Seems they are still having issue with having Sound on HD.

fsubelch

06-01-07, 08:47 AM

Do we have this channel on Comcast HD or not? If so, what is the channel number?

BadMojo11

06-01-07, 03:40 PM

Do we have this channel on Comcast HD or not? If so, what is the channel number?

No not yet. I'm sure it will filter in soon within the month.

CapeFish

06-01-07, 10:04 PM

hunter0008

06-02-07, 11:05 AM

Here is the contact info for the regional VP of Comcast Gulf Coast (Comcast Tallahassee is a part of this region) in Sarasota:

Steve Dvoskin, regional VP
(941) 342-3552
steve_dvoskin@cable.comcast.com

Those who want more HD baseball games should e-mail him and ask that Comcast buy the extra 55 Marlins games so that there is no interruption in any Marlins telecasts whether they be HD or SD.

Done. :) (Auto reply out of the country on vacation until June 7th....how jealous am I? Hopefully his assistant will take note of the email as it says in the auto-reply)

On another note...does anyone know if ABC HD works yet in Tallahassee? Only at certain times of the day do they even have HD content and I have missed most of those opportunities to check and see. Too bad that season finally of Lost couldn't be in HD...what a good episode.

talkingtiki

06-04-07, 07:34 AM

hunter0008

06-04-07, 11:07 AM

Done. :) (Auto reply out of the country on vacation until June 7th....how jealous am I? Hopefully his assistant will take note of the email as it says in the auto-reply)

So I got a response from his assistant. She basically shoved the responsibility on everyone except for Comcast and said that if we wanted these extra games, then Comcast subscribers would have to pay for it and Comcast has decided this is unfair to the customers. What a sell-out response. Oh well. I guess we'll just have FSN-HD wasting bandwidth while showing nothing.

CapeFish

06-04-07, 04:30 PM

Got a reply from Comcast Tallahassee's Customer Service Manager that was full of inaccuracies (Comcast only will miss 55 games, not 70 and you CANNOT get the missing games by buying MLB Extra Innings) and I responded. Hopefully they will fix the situation once the GM gets back.

I'm getting the ClubDISH card I got handy just in case. At least Dish HD is more complete and the HD-DVR is for 2 rooms.

Alan Gordon

06-04-07, 04:43 PM

Anyone know when Comcast and Tivo will get together and fix the channel lineups and add in the channel data since they did all of the moves? I had to cancel over half my season passes because of the channel changes.

You never know how much you get attached to the Tivo guide data until its not there.

I'd recommend either informing Comcast or TiVo Customer Support (http://customersupport.tivo.com/LineUpForm.aspx) (at the link I just provided). There's only space for a few channels to report, but I would just do a few and then in the comment area, mention the others.

~Alan

PBSengineer

06-04-07, 05:00 PM

Alan Gordon

06-04-07, 05:23 PM

OTOH
I told TiVo on 5/15 that the changes were coming on 5/30 - ignored. I complained on 5/30 that the changes had not been made. I also took the time to (at 3 at a time) inform them about all 69 channel moves. They still have not made the changes - they did inform me that they had contacted Comcast on 5/31 and were awaiting a reply. They have not yet replied to my tirade today.

BTW. you shouldn't have deleted your season passes. They will change when TiVo (or their "data partner") gets their act together.

While I've never contacted TiVo directly about channel changes, I have contacted Zap2it.com, Tribune Media Services and countless stations regarding OTA discrepencies.

I've never received a response from Zap2it.com, I've gotten a response ONCE from Tribune who asked me what the incorrect problems were, but then never replied back after I told him, nor were the problems fixed. I've also dealt with station managers/engineers who had no idea what I was talking about, though I've thankfully managed to find some helpful people who helped me get "correct" guide data for stations like WTLH-DT2, WSWG-DT, WSWG-DT2, and I've been lucky that some problems have corrected themselves (or so it seems) such as problems with WSST-DT, WRBL-DT2, WTVM-DT2, and additional issues with WSWG-DT, WSWG-DT2.

I've also managed to try and get guide information added for WALB-DT2 until it became a "moo" ("Friends" reference) point since WALB recently STOPPED BROADCASTING WALB-DT2 (10-2).

I'm planning on getting a TiVo Series 3 in the next week or two ($399 after rebate from where I'm getting it), and I intend on contacting TiVo right after activation to get guide data for WTXL-DT2 and WTWC-DT2 straightened out...

It really should be easier than this getting guide data straightened out, shouldn't it?

God only knows how difficult it may be to get guide data once GPB (Georgia Public Broadcasting) goes digital this year...

~Alan

DavidML3

06-05-07, 10:52 AM

I don't know about OTA, but it was not HD on Comcast (ch 431)- none of WTXL is HD on Comcast as of yet. I suggest you call Mike Plummer (894-6397) and complain. Maybe if enough of us raise a fuss they will do something about it.

What is WTXL's problem? Why are they not in HD yet? Its been over two years now since they went off. What is the problem here? The NBA finals are coming up and WTXL is dropping the ball yet again.

dsmith901

06-05-07, 02:31 PM

What is WTXL's problem? Why are they not in HD yet? Its been over two years now since they went off. What is the problem here? The NBA finals are coming up and WTXL is dropping the ball yet again.

I suggest you call Mike Plummer at 850 894-6397 and ask (or vent) your questions directly to him. Let us know what he says.

seanatki

06-05-07, 07:14 PM

Has anybody else lost WTWC OTA? I only get the analog, and it seems to have completely disappeared. Is the digital working?

Sean

Trek2000

06-05-07, 08:03 PM

Has anybody else lost WTWC OTA? I only get the analog, and it seems to have completely disappeared. Is the digital working?

Sean

I am still getting it.

talkingtiki

06-05-07, 08:13 PM

BTW. you shouldn't have deleted your season passes. They will change when TiVo (or their "data partner") gets their act together.

Yes I know that but who knows when that will be and the passes I have now either
A) don't record because there is dead signal on the station or
B) it records what it thinks it should and its from a different channel

Both of these are a pain in the ass.

I contacted tivo channel support and got a ticket opened with them but it says it will take 5-7 days to resolve.

PBSengineer

06-06-07, 06:08 AM

Well, progress at TiVo. I got this reply last night:
Thank you for contacting TiVo's Channel Lineup Department. We have received an update from our data provider. The changes have been made to your lineup but it will not reflect for another 48-72 hours. Please advise if there are any further lineup discrepancies we may assist you with.
So maybe progress?? -- I'm about to force a connection and see what's up.

richall01

06-06-07, 08:10 AM

It's June 2025 and still no WTXL HD. When will tomorrow get here?

DavidML3

06-06-07, 11:54 AM

I suggest you call Mike Plummer at 850 894-6397 and ask (or vent) your questions directly to him. Let us know what he says.

called got a voicemail

emailed and got no reply.

I think he is tired of the complaints. They need to do something. Can they use a feed from lets say Jacksonville's ABC or Orlando or something for at least sports games and national tv programming?

richall01

06-06-07, 03:03 PM

To WTXL: "If you want to be first, you have to come in first place." Stop talking about what you are going to do "First local news in HD" and Just Do It!

CapeFish

06-06-07, 09:51 PM

Tallahassee Democrat has an article outlining the new Comcast price increases.

$50+ basic analog Comcast Cable service is going to start turning many users off. I know I will try anything but Comcast come the fall.

talkingtiki

06-07-07, 06:47 AM

Well, progress at TiVo. I got this reply last night:

So maybe progress?? -- I'm about to force a connection and see what's up.

Got the update last night with all the changes.

NeonDeion

06-07-07, 08:32 AM

Trek2000

06-07-07, 11:09 AM

I have noticed that WTXL 27-1 OTA has 5.1 sound but still no HD picture.

richall01

06-07-07, 12:54 PM

I called WTXL yesterday and asked about HD. The receptionist said that they had to order a part before they could get the HD signal to comcast. It is on order, but she didn't know an ETA for HD broadcasts.

Neon

Once again WTXL has no clue on what they are doing. I needed a part and had it sent overnight (the first part was bad). In Two DAYS I was up and running.

dsmith901

06-07-07, 02:56 PM

Maybe WTXL has decided they can save a lot of money by just staying with SD and forgetting about HD.

NeonDeion

06-07-07, 04:09 PM

I really doubt that WTXL spent hundreds of thousands in order to build a HD-capable studio only to try to "save" money by not broadcasting in HD...

Ross Moody

06-07-07, 07:29 PM

Is anyone in Valdosta able to pick up Channel 27 in Valdosta. I am only getting a signal of 16. I have a rooftop antenna. Getting CBS and FOX great.

Well I got my Sharp TV back from "REPAIR" today. I see nothing of ABC. Zero on 27.1 OTA. Actually I now only get CBS WCTV-TV and Fox WTLH-DT OTA. NBC WTWC-DT which I was getting is crap. Also I was getting using my Cable QAM tuner, NBC WALB-DT and FOX WFXL-DT both out of Albany. Now zip. I guess ABC WTXL-DT has no interest in providing the Valdosta area with Digital programming either on Cable or OTA. :mad:

Trek2000

06-07-07, 09:09 PM

WTXL: NBA Playoff's on in HD OTA.

OompaLoompa77

06-08-07, 07:49 AM

Has anyone else lost channel 40 on DirecTV. It has been down for 3 days.

dsmith901

06-08-07, 09:40 AM

I really doubt that WTXL spent hundreds of thousands in order to build a HD-capable studio only to try to "save" money by not broadcasting in HD...

They HAD to build a new studio - they got kicked out of their old lease. They don't HAVE to go HD, the FCC does not require it.

Trek2000

06-08-07, 09:59 AM

Has anyone else lost channel 40 on DirecTV. It has been down for 3 days.

I also am not getting channel 40 over Dish but I am getting 40-1 and 40-2 OTA.

NeonDeion

06-08-07, 10:13 AM

dsmith901

06-08-07, 03:32 PM

The point is that they have already paid the money to be capable of broadcasting in HD. Why do you think they would be saving money by now deciding not to broadcast in HD?? That makes zero sense whatsoever...

Because they can broadcast a half dozen sub-channels and SD channels on one HD channel.

Actually I was not being entirely serious - I have spoken to WTXL many times on this whole rebuilding thing and they will do HD eventually (including Comcast), but it is getting a little tedious waiting what was supposed to happen a couple of months back.

Alan Gordon

06-08-07, 11:40 PM

Actually I was not being entirely serious - I have spoken to WTXL many times on this whole rebuilding thing and they will do HD eventually (including Comcast), but it is getting a little tedious waiting what was supposed to happen a couple of months back.

That's nothing new for a lot of HD viewers.

For instance, WALB-DT (NBC) and WFXL-DT in my market was supposed to be full-powered HD last Summer, but after the towers collapsed, it was put off until earlier this year, then it was supposed to May, then June, now it's looking like next month. I'm lucky enough to be able to receive their low-powered signal, but there are people out there who can't.

GPTV (GA's PBS) was supposed to go digital several years ago, then it got pushed back to last year, and then to next year. A note, however was posted on GPTV's website late last year that GPTV was supposed to be up and running with their digital signal by this Spring, but since Spring is almost over, I contacted GPTV only to find out that they are now 6-12 months behind schedule...

~Alan

jmb04law

06-10-07, 09:14 PM

Is anyone else on Comcast or otherwise have nothing but a black screen on the "HD" WTXL (Channel 431) and the regular WTXL (Channel 7)?

ClarenceR

06-10-07, 09:17 PM

Is anyone else on Comcast or otherwise have nothing but a black screen on the "HD" WTXL (Channel 431) and the regular WTXL (Channel 7)?
I'm on Mediacom Valdosta and see nothing but black here too.

Trek2000

06-10-07, 09:19 PM

Is anyone else on Comcast or otherwise have nothing but a black screen on the "HD" WTXL (Channel 431) and the regular WTXL (Channel 7)?

It's off OTA and the SD is off on Dish also.

jmb04law

06-10-07, 09:33 PM

I didn't think it was possible for WTXL to aggravate me than they already have, but I was sorely mistaken.

DavidML3

06-10-07, 09:38 PM

I didn't think it was possible for WTXL to aggravate me than they already have, but I was sorely mistaken.

I cant believe this. Why now? Why couldnt the station go off yesterday or Friday? Why now?

Trek2000

06-10-07, 09:42 PM

WTXL: The OTA HD is back on.

DavidML3

06-10-07, 09:49 PM

WTXL: The OTA HD is back on.

OTA is actually in HD? So why is HD not on comcast? Anyways the game still isnt on for Comcast

dsmith901

06-11-07, 09:16 AM

OTA is actually in HD? So why is HD not on comcast? Anyways the game still isnt on for Comcast

I don't think Comcast is the problem - I think WTXL is not sending them a HD signal.

BTW, can anyone explain why WTLH (FOX) SD looks like video manure, to put it politely? At least this is the case on Comcast. Their HD is usually pretty good, but a person could literally go blind trying to watch their SD shows.

Woody54

06-11-07, 09:43 AM

Hey Guys,
I'm not particularly knowledgable about local HD - since I have no luck with OTA antennas (I'm near Miccosukee & Crump) - just get static and I've not much interest in an outside mount...
But I've noticed that by running my basic Comcast feed into my Samsung DLP HD, I can some sometimes get the local stations (40) on 85-1, (27) 85-2, & (6) 86-1.
These are the local digital signals presumably. The HD network pictures on NBC and CBS can be quite stunning along with what appears to be 5.1 Dolby. (WFSU is in there as well.)
Is this an advertised service Comcast provides for basic? Channel reception can be very erratic - often as not, I receive no signal at all.
I found this quite by accident by running a TV channel scan some time ago; most of my viewing is via DirecTV.
Thanks much...
Woody

NeonDeion

06-11-07, 02:46 PM

dsmith901

06-11-07, 03:46 PM

I think the issue from FOX is directly related to the type of engineering they use.
Unlike other networks, they use a "splitter" to switch over their broadcasts between HD and non-HD programs. THis is nice, b/c you never have to worry about a trained monkey not flipping the HD switch. However, as I understand it, their non-HD stuff isn't digital, but analog, hence the poor quality. So, until the networks are supposed to put everything out in digital, then this will exist. Does FOXENG still post on this forum??? Maybe he can explain better, as I am sure I really butchered that explanation.

Neon

WTXL is also supposed to use an automatic switcher, so I hope they don't have the same problem with SD. Actually most of the "SD" shows on WTLH originated and are available in digital format, just not always HD. Smallville, for instance, is recorded in HD, and even the Smallville SD DVDs (which are digital of course) look far better than the crappy re-runs of that show on WTLH. In fact almost nothing shown today is truly analog (VHS/BETA) other than the old Andy Griffith reruns on WCTV. I suspect WTLH is using some kind of (very) low-quality digitizer on anything that is not HD from the networks, and it reeks! My Panasonic EH55 digitizes analog cable channels far better than the piece of crap gear that WTLH is using.

Alan Gordon

06-11-07, 03:50 PM

In fact almost nothing shown today is truly analog (VHS/BETA) other than the old Andy Griffith reruns on WCTV.

It's a shame they aren't allowed to use the DVD sets, as they look pretty darn spiffy... I'm proud to say...

~Alan

dsmith901

06-12-07, 09:41 AM

It's a shame they aren't allowed to use the DVD sets, as they look pretty darn spiffy... I'm proud to say...

~Alan

To me it looks like a 3rd generation (at best) VHS copy that is being accessed via composite video and run through a 20 year old digitizer that is in need of repair. It doesn't get any worse than that. Apparently WTLH has absolutely no pride in the quality of their transmission. Total losers. :mad:

dabassmonkey

06-12-07, 11:56 AM

To me it looks like a 3rd generation (at best) VHS copy that is being accessed via composite video and run through a 20 year old digitizer that is in need of repair. It doesn't get any worse than that. Apparently WTLH has absolutely no pride in the quality of their transmission. Total losers. :mad:

Yeah I have to agree. When WTLH is carrying something in HD from FOX it looks fantastic but anything originating from them in standard def really does look absolutely awful. Whenever I'm watching something in HD on FOX, it's really obvious during commercials when it switches over to a local WTLH ad.

BadMojo11

06-12-07, 12:09 PM

Is anyone having problems with the Comcast on Demand? It was broken over the weekend and Comcast had an awful (and unprofessional) message informing me that On Demand was not working. Just called and the message is gone, have any of you used ON DEMAND since the weekend? Thanks

Pflanz1

06-12-07, 07:28 PM

CapeFish

06-13-07, 05:34 PM

WTWC-DT Tallahassee NBC (http://www.wtwc40.com/) - 1080i :)
(40.1 NBC HD | 40.2 NBC40) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT620365.html)

WTXL-DT Tallahassee ABC (http://www.wtxl.tv/) - 720p :confused:
(27.1 ABC HD | 27.2 ABC27) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1135699.html)

WCTV-DT Thomasville CBS (http://www.wctv.tv/) - 1080i :)
(6.1 CBS HD | 6.2 MyNetworkTV) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1079431.html)

WTLH-DT Bainbridge FOX (http://www.fox49.com/) - 720p :)
(49.1 FOX HD | 49.2 The CW Plus) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1155239.html)

WFSU-DT Tallahassee PBS (http://www.wfsu.org/) - 1080i :)
(11.1 WFSU-HD | 11.2 4FSU | 11.3 Create | 11.4 FKN) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT675203.html)

WTLF-DT Tallahassee CW (http://www.fox49.com/) - 480i :(
(24.1 The CW Plus) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT629040.html) | Construction Permit Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT993228.html)

Key: HD :) | HD Soon :confused: | SD Digital/Low Power Only :(

Local Cable Companies
Comcast (http://www.comcast.com/) - Tallahassee, Quincy, Wakulla, Perry, Live Oak, and Madison
Mediacom (http://www.mediacomcc.com/) - Valdosta, Thomasville, Bainbridge, Havana, Gretna, Greensboro, and Donalsonville
CNS Television (http://www.cns-internet.com/services.hdtvanddvr.shtml) - Cairo, Camilla, Moultrie, Pelham, and Thomasville
Charter Communications (http://www.charter.com/Visitors/Products.aspx?ProductItem=6) - Lake Park

National Satellite Providers
Dish Network (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/index.shtml) - Offers 32 national HD channels along with all events aired on FSN Florida HD & Sun Sports HD in Florida and FSN South HD & SportSouth HD in Georgia. Tallahassee Locals in SD Only, need antenna for HD. Plans to launch 2 new MPEG4 satellites by end of 2007. No specific rumors or information for Tallahassee HD Locals.
DirecTV (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/secondaryIndex.jsp?assetId=1100083) - Offers 9 national HD channels along with selected events aired on FSN Florida HD & Sun Sports HD in Florida and FSN South HD & SportSouth HD in Georgia. Tallahassee Locals in SD Only, need antenna for HD. Talks of HD Locals being offered once new satellites are launched in the future.

1998Nole

06-14-07, 01:56 AM

I was just flipping channels and it looks like WTXL in now in HD on Comcast. :)

PBSengineer

06-14-07, 08:01 AM

I was just flipping channels and it looks like WTXL in now in HD on Comcast.
Yep, I saw them make the change last night at 6:30 pm. GMA is in fact in HD. And you know they switch between net HD and local upconverted better than anyone else in town. Now if they can keep it working.

DavidML3

06-14-07, 01:36 PM

I was just flipping channels and it looks like WTXL in now in HD on Comcast. :)

It better be. Otherwise I will send them a nasty email again. :mad:

dsmith901

06-14-07, 03:04 PM

Yep, I saw them make the change last night at 6:30 pm. GMA is in fact in HD. And you know they switch between net HD and local upconverted better than anyone else in town. Now if they can keep it working.

Hallelujah!!! And audio is DD 5.1!!! Hallalujah again!! :D

sbturner

06-14-07, 03:54 PM

Will they ever get full power OTA so us folks in Valdosta area can get it?

Trek2000

06-14-07, 03:57 PM

Has anyone else noticed that the OTA sub channels run through Dish Receivers now have info?

jrcstudios

06-14-07, 06:11 PM

jrcstudios

06-14-07, 06:13 PM

Will they ever get full power OTA so us folks in Valdosta area can get it?

No plans to increase power until 2009, however, you should be able to get us in Valdosta with a high-gain rooftop antenna.

rew72

06-14-07, 06:25 PM

i wonder if mediacom in valdosta has plans on adding wtxl in hd anytime soon/ anyone in the valdosta area with info please post

sbturner

06-14-07, 11:35 PM

Alan Gordon

06-15-07, 12:07 AM

Your (overworked) WTXL guy.

JRC, I e-mailed this issue to Mike Plummer, but so far, no response.

On DirecTV HD receivers, and TiVo Series 3, the guide information for WTXL-DT2 maps WTXL-DT2 to "27-1" instead of "27-2," so even though the two channels are marked as "WTXL-DT" and WTXL-DT2", "27-1" appears in the guide twice.

This is annoying for a couple of reasons, one being that whenever you scan for local channels, WTXL-DT2 pops up twice since it has a different mapped channel. It's also just annoying... for an example, click here (http://www3.tivo.com/tivo-tco/provider.do), type in your zip code and click on "Over The Air Only (Digital), Antenna... or you can just click here (http://members.aol.com/dreamworker23/100_0898.jpg) and see a picture I took from of the Guide on my TiVo Series 3. You might also notice that WTXL-DT2's programming is listed as HD, when it's not...

~Alan

Ross Moody

06-15-07, 07:57 AM

No plans to increase power until 2009, however, you should be able to get us in Valdosta with a high-gain rooftop antenna.

Define "high-gain rooftop antenna" please. I live in Valdosta, have CM 3018 ANTENNA which receives WCTV-DT,WTLH-DT,WTWC-DT and WSWG-DT OTA. I get zip, zero, none, from your WTXL-DT station. What is your current power??? I believe you should remove any advertised claims that you service Valdosta with digital programming. :mad:

richall01

06-15-07, 09:13 AM

Gives us in Valdosta WTXL HD or give us a wavier to get ABC HD from DirecTV!

dsmith901

06-15-07, 10:33 AM

Hey! Remember me? I haven't shown my face on here in many months because I could only imagine what was being said about WTXL... We have had a lot of painful days since we moved out on our own, some visible on air and some not. Now that things seem to be calming down, and "equipment A" is starting to learn how to talk to "equipment B" I shall present myself again. Enjoy ABC in HD.

Your (overworked) WTXL guy.
JRC

Thanks for all your work - it does look and sound good now at WTXL. Any chance you can pass your experience on to the other local channels such as WTLH (FOX) so they can figure out how to transmit SD so it doesn't look like shxt?

jrcstudios

06-15-07, 05:03 PM

I have high gain rooftop antenna, and can get WTXL in Adel maybe once every other week for a few minutes. 2009? You have to kidding me. Two more college football seasons without HD? By the way my antenna gets WCTV and WTLH very strong, so it's not my antenna, it is WTXL's weak signal.

Send me your address to jrcstudios at gmail dot com. I'd like to see where it falls on our coverage map.

Yea, WCTV and WTLH are putting out WAY more power than we are.

--JRC

jrcstudios

06-15-07, 05:06 PM

JRC, I e-mailed this issue to Mike Plummer, but so far, no response.

On DirecTV HD receivers, and TiVo Series 3, the guide information for WTXL-DT2 maps WTXL-DT2 to "27-1" instead of "27-2," so even though the two channels are marked as "WTXL-DT" and WTXL-DT2", "27-1" appears in the guide twice.

~Alan

Interesting... How long has this been going on?? was it happening before May 28th?

jrcstudios

06-15-07, 05:15 PM

Define "high-gain rooftop antenna" please. I live in Valdosta, have CM 3018 ANTENNA which receives WCTV-DT,WTLH-DT,WTWC-DT and WSWG-DT OTA. I get zip, zero, none, from your WTXL-DT station. What is your current power??? I believe you should remove any advertised claims that you service Valdosta with digital programming. :mad:

I would consider your antenna high gain and adequate for receiving us in Valdosta if properly aimed and high enough. Is there anyone on this list that gets us in Valdosta? Perhaps I should go do some signal measurement....

By the way, I'm not in charge of advertising or wavers (Thank god)

--JRC

Alan Gordon

06-15-07, 05:40 PM

Interesting... How long has this been going on?? was it happening before May 28th?

OH YEAH, since sometime last year... don't remember when... before that, WTXL-DT2 wasn't listed at all...

~Alan

carte179

06-15-07, 06:49 PM

I live in Valdosta. I receive WTXL digital

OompaLoompa77

06-15-07, 10:13 PM

I would consider your antenna high gain and adequate for receiving us in Valdosta if properly aimed and high enough. Is there anyone on this list that gets us in Valdosta? Perhaps I should go do some signal measurement....

By the way, I'm not in charge of advertising or wavers (Thank god)

--JRC

I live in Valdosta, close to Moody off Studstill Rd. I have a DB8 Amplified antenna. I can only receive CBS. I spoke to Mike Plummer myself and he stated to me that I live 20 miles outside the signal range. Even with that he would not give me a waiver. That I still do not understand. Knowing that I cannot get the signal but still deny a waiver.

Ross Moody

06-16-07, 10:54 AM

I live in Valdosta. I receive WTXL digital

You seem to be somehow blessed. What is your set-up? IE: type antenna, digital receiver, amps or other gems. What part of Valdosta? I do not plan on moving next door to you, ABC ain't worth it. Assuming the signal maps posted by CapeFish are up to date, MY house plots on the NE edge of WTXL-DT footprint.

Thanks

carte179

06-16-07, 08:55 PM

I live off Knights Academy Rd not far from Studstill. I am using a 91XG with amp and preamp mounted in attic. I recieve wtxl, wtwc, wctv, and wtlh without any problems.

Alan Gordon

06-16-07, 11:17 PM

Some of y'all might want to hit me after I say this, but I've been receiving WTXL-DT every night since Wednesday with my TiVo Series 3. I can't receive the channel during the day (the signals usually around 30-35 during the day), but around evening time, usually being somewhere between 6:00 - 8:00 P.M., I start getting signals around 50-80 (it's 80 right now). I haven't been able to pick up the channels with my DirecTV HR10-250 (HD-TiVo), and when I do, it's usually 20% less signal than the Series 3, and one night this week, and last night, I lost the channel for a little bit, but it's given me a good signal the rest of the week...

I saw a couple of minutes of POTC on WTXL-DT tonight, and it looked good... not as good as the Blu-ray copy of it, but still pretty darn good...

~Alan

drWaLLs

06-17-07, 12:49 AM

Is WTXL a channel that mediacom in Valdosta could eventually pick up?

Alan Gordon

06-17-07, 01:23 AM

Is WTXL a channel that mediacom in Valdosta could eventually pick up?

Definately...

~Alan

Ross Moody

06-17-07, 11:11 AM

I live off Knights Academy Rd not far from Studstill. I am using a 91XG with amp and preamp mounted in attic. I recieve wtxl, wtwc, wctv, and wtlh without any problems.

Thanks for feedback. I do not have amp. Do you have PA-18 or PA-16, or other?
I am surprised that you receive WTWC-DT as it is VHF channel 2 if I remember. Does it come in 24/7 or just certain times of the day/night? I also have an attic installation. You are the first in Valdosta area to report receiving WTXL-DT OTA. What ever you are doing, keep doing it. Remember if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

CapeFish

06-17-07, 05:36 PM

WTWC-DT Tallahassee NBC (http://www.wtwc40.com/) - 1080i :)
(40.1 NBC HD | 40.2 NBC40) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT620365.html)

WTXL-DT Tallahassee ABC (http://www.wtxl.tv/) - 720p :)
(27.1 ABC HD | 27.2 ABC27) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1135699.html)

WCTV-DT Thomasville CBS (http://www.wctv.tv/) - 1080i :)
(6.1 CBS HD | 6.2 MyNetworkTV) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1079431.html)

WTLH-DT Bainbridge FOX (http://www.fox49.com/) - 720p :)
(49.1 FOX HD | 49.2 The CW Plus) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1155239.html)

WFSU-DT Tallahassee PBS (http://www.wfsu.org/) - 1080i :)
(11.1 WFSU-HD | 11.2 4FSU | 11.3 Create | 11.4 FKN) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT675203.html)

WTLF-DT Tallahassee CW (http://www.fox49.com/) - 480i :(
(24.1 The CW Plus) Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT629040.html) | Construction Permit Signal Map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT993228.html)

Key: HD :) | SD Digital/Low Power Only :(

Local Cable Companies
Comcast (http://www.comcast.com/) - Tallahassee, Quincy, Wakulla, Perry, Live Oak, and Madison
Mediacom (http://www.mediacomcc.com/) - Valdosta, Thomasville, Bainbridge, Havana, Gretna, Greensboro, and Donalsonville
CNS Television (http://www.cns-internet.com/services.hdtvanddvr.shtml) - Cairo, Camilla, Moultrie, Pelham, and Thomasville
Charter Communications (http://www.charter.com/Visitors/Products.aspx?ProductItem=6) - Lake Park

National Satellite Providers
Dish Network (http://www.dishnetwork.com/content/our_products/dish_hd/index.shtml) - Offers 32 national HD channels along with all events aired on FSN Florida HD & Sun Sports HD in Florida and FSN South HD & SportSouth HD in Georgia. Tallahassee Locals in SD Only, need antenna for HD. Plans to launch 2 new MPEG4 satellites by end of 2007. No specific rumors or information for Tallahassee HD Locals.
DirecTV (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/secondaryIndex.jsp?assetId=1100083) - Offers 9 national HD channels along with selected events aired on FSN Florida HD & Sun Sports HD in Florida and FSN South HD & SportSouth HD in Georgia. Tallahassee Locals in SD Only, need antenna for HD. Talks of HD Locals being offered once new satellites are launched in the future.

carte179

06-17-07, 07:09 PM

I have a CM 7775 amp. Use VHF antenna for wtwc with signal combiner. Recieve WTXL 24 hrs have for over a year.

Woody54

06-18-07, 11:48 AM

Woody...I am not far from you...Off of Crump between Mahan and Miccosukee....I use a OTA with a roof mount and have no problem getting 6.1 27.1 40.1 and 49.1...alll without having to rotate the antenna. I also have the Samsung DLP, but prefer having the signal go to my HD DVR (Tivo) Unless you have direct LOS issues with the trees you should be able to get OTA if you are aligned right...to the NE not towards town

Thanks for the response Pflanz1; yes I figure I'll do much better with an outside antenna - however I don't look forward to climbing around on my steeply pitched roof. As I said, I use DirecTV for most of my viewing... Awhile back, I remember seeing some kind of Terk variant that clipped on a dish - I wonder how effective those are or if they even make them anymore...
Thanks again, Woody

jrcstudios

06-18-07, 11:52 AM

I live in Valdosta, close to Moody off Studstill Rd. I have a DB8 Amplified antenna. I can only receive CBS. I spoke to Mike Plummer myself and he stated to me that I live 20 miles outside the signal range. Even with that he would not give me a waiver. That I still do not understand. Knowing that I cannot get the signal but still deny a waiver.

The waver crap is so thick in broadcast law that I do not pretend to know enough about it to give advise. You guys probably know more than I do. But if I had to guess, since it is not 2009 yet, our analog coverage of your area prevents us from giving you a waver.

Remember, its not just the TV station that doesn't want to give out wavers, but it is our ass if wavers get given out to viewers that could receive our programming. Big local advertisers have lawyers that look at wavers hoping they can find a slip up on the local station to report to ABC, and big fines and possible loss of affiliation can follow.

jrcstudios

06-18-07, 11:55 AM

Awhile back, I remember seeing some kind of Terk variant that clipped on a dish - I wonder how effective those are or if they even make them anymore...
Thanks again, Woody

They are CRAP. Since you can't aim them (without moving your dish) they are useless unless you live well in the grade A coverage of a station. I've dealt with many viewers using those. (especially troublesome on VHF)

Woody54

06-18-07, 12:10 PM

They are CRAP. Since you can't aim them (without moving your dish) they are useless unless you live well in the grade A coverage of a station. I've dealt with many viewers using those. (especially troublesome on VHF)

Thanks - I suspected aiming would be a problem. So much for the easy way out... ;-)

jrcstudios

06-18-07, 12:26 PM

Is WTXL a channel that mediacom in Valdosta could eventually pick up?

I just talked with a Media-com tech....
Stay tuned...

Alan Gordon

06-18-07, 01:07 PM

Stay tuned...

Any progress on getting WTXL-DT2's guide information straightened out?

~Alan

seanatki

06-18-07, 07:47 PM

A couple of weeks ago, a lightening strike took out WTWC's analog tower. Tonight, I am once again not receiving their analog signal and was wondering if anybody else was having a similar problem.

Sean

PS - jrcstudios: What does the future hold for 27.2? Will it always just be the SD version of 27.1?

PBSengineer

06-19-07, 07:56 AM

OompaLoompa77

06-19-07, 11:55 AM

JRCStudio and FOXman.

Have you heard on when your station will be providing HD locals through satellite company DirecTV. I heard in 2008. But I would like to know about when.

richall01

06-19-07, 01:43 PM

JRCStudio and FOXman.

Have you heard on when your station will be providing HD locals through satellite company DirecTV. I heard in 2008. But I would like to know about when.

About a year away. DirecTV 11 will go up about spring 08. No date because of delay with Sea Launch.

BUT, The Tallahasse stations must get there act togather! If they don't DirecTV will have to pass them up again!

dsmith901

06-19-07, 03:08 PM

Well, here we go again. (and they were doing so good) Good Morning America on WTXL is not in HD as fed from ABC. Cannot something work for more than a week over there?

And to add insult to injury -- The phone system drops the call - says it can't find the mailbox?

Is GMA broadcast in HD? Maybe the problem is at ABC and not WTXL. It is probably WTXL, but the networks are sometimes the screwup.

dsmith901

06-20-07, 10:06 AM

jrcstudios,

Why are ABC prime time HD shows being transmitted in the SD format by WTXL? Are you still having problems with the new gear? Or is ABC sending them to you like that?

rrmcdonald

06-20-07, 10:35 AM

We had no OTA signal from WTXL last night, so I assume it was related to that (did the storm do something?). Didn't check this morning

Alan Gordon

06-20-07, 02:50 PM

We had no OTA signal from WTXL last night, so I assume it was related to that (did the storm do something?). Didn't check this morning

My TiVo recorded "Boston Legal" as a "Suggestion" last night from WTXL-DT, so the OTA signal was there, but it was upconverted SD...

~Alan

Tiger9

06-21-07, 09:51 AM

No plans to increase power until 2009, however, you should be able to get us in Valdosta with a high-gain rooftop antenna.

Please justify why the power will not be increased to 2009. Those of us in the fringe areas are suffering! If your station has capacity for increased power, wouldn't your advertisers appreciate greater area coverage? This question stems from the Albany DMA wherein we do not have an ABC affiliate. We only receive a digital signal from our significantly viewed ABC affiliate (WTVM, Columbus) when atmospheric conditions permit. My hi-gain, pre-amped DB-8 antenna is currently aimed towards Tallahassee because the signal strength of WCTV is consistently above 80 on my tuner day and night. We only receive your station's digital signal after twilight and it rarely reaches 60 in signal strength when we are able to receive it.

HAMCO

06-21-07, 10:10 AM

Tiger9, what you describe is my same situation, except I am at the opposite end of the DMA. It is a real rarity when I am able to receive WTXL digital. The fringe areas do indeed suffer the most from this under powered situation.

Greg Michaels

06-21-07, 12:18 PM

My TiVo recorded "Boston Legal" as a "Suggestion" last night from WTXL-DT, so the OTA signal was there, but it was upconverted SD...

~Alan

Hi everyone:

I'm new to the forum...and very interested in HDTV. It's a pleasure to find this site!

I must say, Alan, I'm so jealous of you! I can't believe you receive Channel 27 in HDTV. In addition, you can pick up Columbus, Albany, the rest of Tallahassee. How awesome! I live between Thomasville and Moultrie. I'm stuck with Tallahassee stations and Albany (when they come back on the air). Here are some of my observations. BTW: I have a power, high gain outdoor antenna that's new and good quality.

1. WTXL- really wish I could get it, but I seldom get it even since it's now supposed to have raised its power. That's why I'm astounded that it reaches Dawson when I'm only about 30-35 miles from the tower. I'm not surprised then that folks on the fringe have trouble receiving it. I receive analog 27 powerfully. I like this station, and want to recieve it in HDTV.

2. WTWC - I have read people complaining about it being on Digital channel 2, but by far, it's the most reliable at my house. I can turn the antenna north and I still pick it up. The quality of the WTWC signal surpasses WCTV's here. If no other station from Tallahassee comes in, I'm still likely to get WTWC's digital station. Again, I'm about 30-35 miles from its tower, just as I am from WTXL's.

3. WTLH- FOX 49 is pretty darn impressive too. It's HDTV signals are pretty reliable here.

4. WSWG- will come in sometimes, but antenna must be the right way. Wish this station were independent of WCTV to give the feel of south Georgia really having another CBS affiliate instead of a WCTV clone with the same logo, news, etc. It's a shame the market can't support an independent presence. I know, it's owned by Gray as WCTV and why it probably makes since from an economic standpoint, but I'm just wishing . . . :)

As for wishing, I wish I could get both WRBL and WTVM. I know people just north can receive them, but unfortunately, I live a little too far south. I would prefer to watch WRBL to WCTV or WSWG any day of the week, because I just think the station is more professional and has a slicker look than CBS in Tallahassee or CBS in Albany. By the way, CBS in Albany on analog Channel 44 NEVER comes in at my house. I'm amazed by the coverage the station claims on its analog contour map on the FCC website.

This is a scattered accounting of my HDTV reception. I'm looking forward to being a member of the site! :)

jrcstudios

06-21-07, 05:50 PM

[QUOTE=PS - jrcstudios: What does the future hold for 27.2? Will it always just be the SD version of 27.1?[/QUOTE]

Our new facility is being built with the capability of running a complete separate SD stream on 27.2, but no plans that I am aware of at this time.

JRC

jrcstudios

06-21-07, 06:10 PM

Well, here we go again. (and they were doing so good) Good Morning America on WTXL is not in HD as fed from ABC. Cannot something work for more than a week over there?

And to add insult to injury -- The phone system drops the call - says it can't find the mailbox?

EVERYTHING is new. Including the people working the equipment! We were trying to get our Dolby 5.1 audio working, and had it working, until something froze, giving no audio to the ABC HD feeds. So, we had to troubleshoot that. The good news is, as of an hour ago, we have the Stereo sound patched back in and there shall be HD tonight and tomorrow morning.

jrcstudios

06-21-07, 06:12 PM

jrcstudios,
Are you still having problems with the new gear? Or is ABC sending them to you like that?

Yep, its us. Please bare with us. See my previous post.

Alan Gordon

06-21-07, 08:42 PM

I must say, Alan, I'm so jealous of you! I can't believe you receive Channel 27 in HDTV. In addition, you can pick up Columbus, Albany, the rest of Tallahassee. How awesome! I live between Thomasville and Moultrie. I'm stuck with Tallahassee stations and Albany (when they come back on the air). Here are some of my observations. BTW: I have a power, high gain outdoor antenna that's new and good quality.

While it's very cool that I can receive stations from three markets, I can usually only receive a station or two from each.

ALBANY: WALB-DT, WFXL-DT, & WSST-DT. I've managed to pick up WSWG-DT once or twice, but rarely ever. I can also barely receive their analog channel... WFXL-DT's VHF channel 12 gives me the best signal of the three, and I don't have to have my antenna pointed directly in their location to get a great signal.

COLUMBUS: WRBL-DT and WTVM-DT. WRBL has a TREMENDOUS signal... as I can receive a signal of a 100 with my TiVo Series 3 when pointed towards their tower, and I can receive a signal between 70 and 80 when pointed toward the Albany and/or Tallahassee stations. WTVM-DT however, has to be pointed toward the tower in the exact opposite direction of many of the stations I can receive.

TALLAHASSEE: WCTV-DT was the first Tallahassee station I was able to receive, but they started out with lower power where I could only receive it occassionally, then they raised it some more and I was able to receive it during the evening, but not during the day... and it remained that way for a while until they went up in power some more, and I was able to receive it 24 hours a day. They later did something which lowered the signal I was receiving, but it's still a great signal. WTLH-DT is the second best Tallahassee local for me to pick up, but could be problematic before I got the TiVo Series 3 as the antenna has only a few locations where it will pick up WTLH-DT, and unfortunately, my HR10-250 will only pick it up in locations where WALB-DT will not come in. The TiVo Series 3 however picks up both stations better, so I can now get both of them in using the same direction (and I suspect that it will only get better once WALB-DT goes full power.

1. WTXL- really wish I could get it, but I seldom get it even since it's now supposed to have raised its power. That's why I'm astounded that it reaches Dawson when I'm only about 30-35 miles from the tower. I'm not surprised then that folks on the fringe have trouble receiving it. I receive analog 27 powerfully. I like this station, and want to recieve it in HDTV.

I'm very curious as to what the future will hold concerning my reception of WTXL-DT. For instance, some stations I can pick up better during the hotter months (troposphere, and all that), and some I can pick up worse (WALB-DT for one). It could be possible that WTXL-DT will be like WCTV-DT did a couple of years ago when I could only pick them up at night (much like my experience now), or it could be that come this Fall/Winter, I won't be able to pick them up at all. Thankfully, I still have ABC-HD via DirecTV though...

2. WTWC - I have read people complaining about it being on Digital channel 2, but by far, it's the most reliable at my house. I can turn the antenna north and I still pick it up. The quality of the WTWC signal surpasses WCTV's here. If no other station from Tallahassee comes in, I'm still likely to get WTWC's digital station. Again, I'm about 30-35 miles from its tower, just as I am from WTXL's.

Yeah, I'm really fond of WFXL-DT's VHF signal as well. It will be interesting to try out the VHF digital channels of WALB-DT(10)/WTVM-DT(9)/WABW(6)/WACS(8) after the 2009 cut-off.

3. WTLH- FOX 49 is pretty darn impressive too. It's HDTV signals are pretty reliable here.

Same here!

4. WSWG- will come in sometimes, but antenna must be the right way. Wish this station were independent of WCTV to give the feel of south Georgia really having another CBS affiliate instead of a WCTV clone with the same logo, news, etc. It's a shame the market can't support an independent presence. I know, it's owned by Gray as WCTV and why it probably makes since from an economic standpoint, but I'm just wishing . . . :)

I know some people with Dish Network who are very thankful to have WSWG (analog), but I rarely think about it given the amount of time I'm able to pick it up (analog or digital)... and I live in the Albany DMA (I don't know if you do or not)

As for wishing, I wish I could get both WRBL and WTVM. I know people just north can receive them, but unfortunately, I live a little too far south. I would prefer to watch WRBL to WCTV or WSWG any day of the week, because I just think the station is more professional and has a slicker look than CBS in Tallahassee or CBS in Albany. By the way, CBS in Albany on analog Channel 44 NEVER comes in at my house. I'm amazed by the coverage the station claims on its analog contour map on the FCC website.

I don't really have a preference for WRBL-DT or WCTV-DT except for the fact that WRBL-DT most likely has higher bandwith HD considering their sub-channel is a radar channel and WCTV-DT2/WSWG-DT2 is a MyNetworkTV station... and the main reason, WRBL-DT has DD5.1 (CBS HD in 5.1 is GREAT!!).

As I said above, there are stations in all three DMAs that I can't receive like Columbus's FOX, the APB (PBS) station in the Columbus, GA DMA, and I can't always receive their NBC station, Tallahassee's NBC (which I can rarely receive), WTLF-DT (which is no big deal since I get WTLH-DT2), and WFSU-DT (which I get occasionally), and Albany's WSWG-DT (which is in my own DMA)...

BTW, "Ugly Betty" ain't looking so ugly in HD on WTXL-DT2 tonight!! :)

~Alan

Alan Gordon

06-21-07, 08:46 PM

Oh yeah, jrcstudios, can you give me your Programming Director's E-Mail?

~Alan

PBSengineer

06-22-07, 09:30 AM

EVERYTHING is new. Including the people working the equipment! We were trying to get our Dolby 5.1 audio working, and had it working, until something froze, giving no audio to the ABC HD feeds. So, we had to troubleshoot that. The good news is, as of an hour ago, we have the Stereo sound patched back in and there shall be HD tonight and tomorrow morning.

But now there is a lip sync problem (dolby 5.1 encoder delays 1 frame and that is no longer in the loop and the system is still set for the delay)

It would be sort of nice if WTXL would concentrate just a wee bit on current air and not just have the idea that it will be great later. Some of us try to watch now.

BTW, can the station watch audio levels? The new chief blamed it on the MCR in Little Rock, but the worst offenders (at least 10 db louder than program) are new. Toyota and Universal blast me out of my living room. Please re-cut since apparently there is no way to control levels as they hit the air. </soapbox>

Tiger9

06-22-07, 10:50 AM

Ironically, after commenting about WTXL and questioning the delay of full power until 2009, we received WTVM (Columbus 47/9) most of primetime last night. Their signal was strong enough to receive on the backside of my multi-directional DB-8 that is aimed towards Tallahassee! We got nothing on WTXL. Frustration continues to mount here in the Albany DMA.

jmb04law

06-22-07, 05:21 PM

Anyone else having any problems with the high numbered digital cable and high definition channels on Comcast?

My DVR was broken so I went to the office and swapped it out for a new one and when I hooked it up all my HD and digital cable stations are all pixelated and the picture and sound keeps freezing. All of the standard stations work just fine.

Comcast is sending someone out Tuesday, but I'm kind of hoping it will go away by then.

CapeFish

06-22-07, 06:52 PM

Albany DMAers really have a dilemma with ABC.

CBS: WSWG (Even though WCTV is probably easier to get OTA and WSWG is basically retransmitting WCTV...WRBL is available too for some OTA)
FOX: WFXL (WTLH is available OTA for some)
NBC: WALB (WTWC is available OTA for some)
ABC: ---- (Hope for WTXL or WTVM)

Only the FOX affiliates are truly clean in terms of little overlap and maximum service as both passthrough FOX HD and have a local 10pm newscast.

WALB > WTWC in terms that WALB has news while WTWC doesn't.

John1234

06-23-07, 09:21 PM

I'm a new member, but have been a reader of this thread and the Albany, Ga., thread for the past few years. I'm fixing to start spending money on HD TV, sound system, etc., but first want to make sure I'm doing all I can to receive local stations via OTA antenna. What I'm looking for is an installer/dealer with some expertise in TV antennas. I live in northern Tift County, Ga., so I'm on the fringe for receiving the Tallahassee stations, too far south for Macon and Columbus stations and, of course, Albany stations are still off the air as far as I'm concerned. Am currently a DirecTV customer, receiving ABC from NY & LA, and plan to subscribe to DirecTV's HD programming, along with NFL Sunday Ticket. What I'm looking for is an antenna expert willing to work in South Georgia, someone well versed in interpreting AntennaWeb info, signal amplification, pointing the antenna in the right direction, directing the signal to two or three rooms in our home, and able to do rooftop or tower installation work. Oh yea, I also have tall trees surrounding my home. Will also post this request in the Albany thread. Would welcome any suggestions you may have for me. Thanks.

dsmith901

06-25-07, 10:38 AM

Pflanz1

06-25-07, 07:14 PM

Woody,

I started off using the terk addition to my dish, but it was really terrible. Trust me, I know what you mean about a high pitched roof, but I hired the guy who sold me the antenna to do the installation. It included the pole, antenna and rotar. I get 6, 27, 40, & 49 all fromthe same direction. I do not even attempt to change it to reach the channels coming from the other direction. At the time I was not getting HD from DTV..I wante dot hol,d out till they offered more programming, especially prime time networks..I was led a stray with promisses of soon to come. So I finally sprung for the HD packahge and disposed of the Terk device withthe old dish when they put up the new 5 LNB dish. I still wish they had more HD programming , but i hear it will be september...so I live with what I got.

drWaLLs

06-27-07, 11:57 PM

I just talked with a Media-com tech....
Stay tuned...

Any inside news you can give me on this? Just wondering if you have any idea of when this might happen - so I don't check every 2 seconds to see if ABC was added :D

richall01

06-28-07, 07:30 AM

Any inside news you can give me on this? Just wondering if you have any idea of when this might happen - so I don't check every 2 seconds to see if ABC was added :D

When you find out what WTXL is going to do, PLEASE tell them?!?!

conley_jb

06-28-07, 09:16 AM

Just a quick note for anyone struggling with good OTA reception on the Northside. I live in Killearn lakes off Bull Headly, have been playing with antennas for a year now. Way to many trees out this way. Finally bought a Terk HDTVo and to my ammazment it works. I can get all the locals now, including WTXL (ABC) that I had previously not been able to grab. Now if they would do HD.....

The HDTVo is a bit more expensive ($169 retail), but you can find it for under $100 shipped online or eBay. I got mine from Newegg for $69, plus shipping.

Just a side, I have mine on a 6ft roof mount antenna mast mounted at the highest point of the roof. I also had to trim back some limbs, but it works fine. Using a DirecTV DVR, I am getting 80-90% signal strenght on 40-1, 6-1 and between 60-70% for 49-1 and roughly 50% on 27-1, which may or may still not be good enough for HDTV on them, but am happy.

richall01

07-03-07, 12:39 PM

Alan Gordon

07-03-07, 12:53 PM

From: www.walb.com

WALB will begin broadcasting from our new tower & antenna tonight at 11:30!

If you picked up Channel 10 with an over the air antenna, and you aimed it temporarily at Albany, you must re-aim it towards Doerun tonight!

I hope those of us in Valdosta will be able to pick-up WALB HD!

Please note that they are only referring to ANALOG channel 10, and there is no mention of WALB-DT on that. It would be nice for them to turn both on, but I doubt it... hopefully they will get the digital on this week...

UPDATE: WALB-TV's analog signal will be full-power at 11:35 P.M. tonight, but their digital (high-def) channel will be up sometime in the next two weeks. Read WALB's new Mega-tower up and running (http://www.walb.com/global/story.asp?s=6744060) for more details.

~Alan

UNC8185

07-04-07, 07:10 AM

I am now barely able to pick up WALB's signal in northeastern Tallahassee with an amplified Winegard GS-1100. This is similar to my periodic reception of stations from Panama City, Dothan, Waycross, and Columbus. Reception depends on atmospheric conditions. I am rarely able to pick up stations from Gainesville, Jacksonville, and Perry, GA. I once received a station from Tampa. Analog signals are more common than digital ones.

I may try a Channel Master 4228 in my attic. It would be great to be able to pick up more signals on a more regular basis.

shawnmos

07-06-07, 01:04 AM

Has anyone else been having trouble getting WTWC to pick up in Windows Media Center? I have tried bother XP's Media Center and Vista's Media Center with my A180 ATSC tuner and even though I have a pretty strong signal for WTWC it completely refuses to pick up anything.

I was able to get it to pick up if I used the crappy software that came with my tuner card but not in Media Center. Every other local channel picks up fine in Media Center.

Bought a different tuner card (a Hauppauge HVR-1600) and still having this problem. I can tune WTWC in Hauppauge's WinTV software but not in Media Center. Please help!!!!!!!

kaneboats

07-06-07, 10:58 AM

conley_jb -- That's encouraging about your setup. I'm off Bull Headley too, on Minnow Creek. I haven't even tried antenna because of the trees. Now you have me wondering if I go up from my 2 story roof I have a chance at some decent reception. I've had the local cable monopoly up to my ears.

Woody54

07-07-07, 05:49 PM

Woody,

I started off using the terk addition to my dish, but it was really terrible.... So I finally sprung for the HD packahge and disposed of the Terk device withthe old dish when they put up the new 5 LNB dish. I still wish they had more HD programming , but i hear it will be september...so I live with what I got.

I hear ya Pflanz1; same here, but lately I'm reconsidering the OTA outside antenna route after all since I've not been able to pick up the Comcast digital signals at all (85-1, 85-2, 86-1, 87-1 etc.) , for about a week now. Anyone else having the same problem?
Otherwise, I'm content to replace my old HR10-250 with the latest and greatest DirecTV HD DVR (already have the oval dish) in anticipation of the 150 HD channels coming....
But I'll probably hire out the antenna installation also... I'm too old and unbalanced to be climbing around on that roof... ;-)

Alan Gordon

07-10-07, 12:21 PM

Otherwise, I'm content to replace my old HR10-250 with the latest and greatest DirecTV HD DVR (already have the oval dish) in anticipation of the 150 HD channels coming....

I ordered my HR20 last night ($19.95 plus tax... minus $5.00 off my bill for the next six months) and install is set for Friday. The order will include the HR20, 5-LNB dish (I have the (Phase III) 3-LNB dish), and multi-switch (I have three DirecTV DVRs).

DBSTalk.com has a good thread explaining how people are able to get such good deals. Click here (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=999808&postcount=2014) to read my experience.

You mention that you already have the Oval Dish. Is this the AT-9 or the Slimline?

~Alan

jrcstudios

07-10-07, 12:59 PM

I've been away from this site for a bit, but I'll try to answer several posts and some people I've left hanging. Here it goes:

But now there is a lip sync problem (dolby 5.1 encoder delays 1 frame and that is no longer in the loop and the system is still set for the delay)

It would be sort of nice if WTXL would concentrate just a wee bit on current air and not just have the idea that it will be great later. Some of us try to watch now.

BTW, can the station watch audio levels? The new chief blamed it on the MCR in Little Rock, but the worst offenders (at least 10 db louder than program) are new. Toyota and Universal blast me out of my living room. Please re-cut since apparently there is no way to control levels as they hit the air. </soapbox>

Yep, biting off way more than can be chewed in one mouth. It amazed me that a multi-million dollar facility lacks a way to automatically adjust audio levels (going in AND out) but yet, here it is! What the dub-station calls 'nominal' and what the Mac editor calls 'nominal' are way different. A fix is in the works. I make them re-dub as often as I can. --JRC

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Oh yeah, jrcstudios, can you give me your Programming Director's E-Mail?

~Alan

I don't know that I am supposed to give that out. Try calling WWSB in Sarasota and ask for Programming. It is handled down there. --JRC

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When you find out what WTXL is going to do, PLEASE tell them?!?!

Concerning Media-Com coverage in Valdosta.. This is waiting on an agreement between Media-com and WTXL upper management. I will ask and see what the holdup is. Rest assured that I will post as soon as I know it will be avaliable --JRC

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If I missed anyone, please re-post! --JRC

Alan Gordon

07-10-07, 01:48 PM

I don't know that I am supposed to give that out. Try calling WWSB in Sarasota and ask for Programming. It is handled down there.

Thanks, but after it took you a while to answer, I decided to buy a TiVo Series 3 which allowed me to write TiVo regarding the incorrect guide data for WTXL-DT2. WTXL-DT guide programming looked like this in the TiVo guides and DirecTV's guides:

27-1 WTXL-DT
27-1 WTXL-DT2

I contacted TiVo and now the guide data lists WTXL-DT2 as 27-2. There are still some issues with the guide data though as WTXL-DT2's programming is listed as being "HD" even though I told TiVo that it shouldn't be.

I also contacted TiVo regarding WTWC-DT2 still showing "The Tube Music Network" even though it's no longer The Tube, but that still hasn't been corrected yet.

Also, I contacted TiVo regarding missing channel logos, (WCTV-DT2, WTLH-DT2, and WLGA-TV) which I wouldn't have done had I not noticed that WLGA-DT had a CW logo, and WLGA-TV and WTLH-DT2 did not. The contact at TiVo told me that a station has to request to their data provider for a logo to be added. I'll probably contact WTLHFOXHD about the logo sometime in the future, and forget the rest, but I thought I'd mention that WTXL-DT2 doesn't have an ABC logo either...

Oh yeah, PBSEngineer, doesn't WFSU have a PBS Kids sub-channel? It doesn't have a logo either... in case you wanted to contact Tribune and get them to add one.

I'll be contacting TiVo again to make sure they change the guide data to reflect that WTXL-DT2 is SD only... and they should get that corrected, but if they don't, maybe you can forward some information to the programming director for me...

~Alan

AVPhan

07-10-07, 08:31 PM

Alan Gordon

07-10-07, 09:17 PM

I called last week and they wanted $99/piece (HR20), I said thanks but no thanks.

I'm an HD-DNS customer, so when DirecTV was "planning" on switching over HD-DNS to MPEG4 last year, I tried to switch to the HR20 (even though I prefer the TiVo software) and was quouted $199. I'm actually glad of that since I was able to use the TiVo software longer... but with DirecTV 10 launched successfully and DirecTV adding TONS of HD channels in September, I wanted to go ahead and switch... so I ran cable last week (I prefer to do most of my own install work) to where I wanted the new dish to be located (I install the pole tomorrow), I decided to call them last night and give it a try. If you read the post I linked to, you already know he tried to get me to pay $199 for it and I wouldn't do it. I'm happy with the $19.95 deal, and I get an additional $5.00 off a month for six months to cover that. It's not as good of a deal as some people get, but it's fine for me.

If I were you, I'd just keep calling as I've heard of several people getting 2 HR20s for $0.00, and some with programming credits on top of that. I've also heard of some people getting the first HR20 for free (or $19.95) and the second one at a discounted price ($49-$99). Either way, I'd just keep trying if I were you...

NOTE: Some people have had good success with E-Mailing DirecTV telling them that Dish Network offers free HD DVR, cable company offers no upfront fees, etc... and DirecTV has been known to either reply to that E-Mail with a number to call (along with a "special pin number") or to simply call you back. It might be worth it for you to try this...

~Alan

Woody54

07-11-07, 07:16 AM

I ordered my HR20 last night ($19.95 plus tax... minus $5.00 off my bill for the next six months) and install is set for Friday. The order will include the HR20, 5-LNB dish (I have the (Phase III) 3-LNB dish), and multi-switch (I have three DirecTV DVRs).

DBSTalk.com has a good thread explaining how people are able to get such good deals. Click here (http://www.dbstalk.com/showpost.php?p=999808&postcount=2014) to read my experience.

You mention that you already have the Oval Dish. Is this the AT-9 or the Slimline?

~Alan

Alan, I meant to say the 5-LNB dish instead of oval and I'm not sure which of the 2 versions it is; I can't see the dish face without climbing up on the roof. I'm scheduled for a second HR20 (also for $19.95) install today to replace the HR10 in our main viewing room. The wife has preferred the HR10 Tivo interface over that of the D* HR20 but it's time now for the replacement - I don't want to wait any longer and wind up on a backorder list come September.

dsmith901

07-13-07, 10:24 AM

richall01

07-14-07, 12:01 AM

Right now WTXL's biggest issue seems to be audio, which was badly garbled last Tuesday night while the picture was in HD, but cleared up when they switched to SD. But at least it appears JRC is aware of the problem and how to fix it.

Nope! The biggest problem with WTXL is they need to do what they said they would do! Give us ABC in HD. I was told that those of us in Valdosta would be able to pick-up WTXL HD some time in June of 07. Then July, then soon, now not untill 09. What ever happen to being the FIRST to offer local news in HD. Quit talking about what WTXL is going to do and "JUST DO IT"!

sbturner

07-15-07, 04:30 PM

Living in Adel and absolutely agree! I can't believe I have got to go through two more college football seasons without ABCHD!!

rew72

07-15-07, 06:51 PM

does this news mean that current mediacom subscribers in valdosta will not have abchd until 2009?

drWaLLs

07-15-07, 08:38 PM

Concerning Media-Com coverage in Valdosta.. This is waiting on an agreement between Media-com and WTXL upper management. I will ask and see what the holdup is. Rest assured that I will post as soon as I know it will be avaliable

--JRC

If I need to come down and help with this agreement I can.. :)

dsmith901

07-16-07, 10:31 AM

Ross Moody

07-17-07, 07:09 PM

does this news mean that current mediacom subscribers in valdosta will not have abchd until 2009?

P.T. Barnum (or someone) said "There's a sucker born every minute". Well today I’m the sucker. Ordered and installed a Channel Master 7777 antenna preamplifier. It works however; I got no increase in gain using it with my CM 3018 antenna. OTA meter readings remain unchanged as follows: CBS, 6.1; 88-92 NBC, 40.1 42-43 ,CBS,44.1 56-59 FOX 49.1 81-82 ABC 27.1 00-00.
Actually I was prepared for the results as I have a short cable run and no splitters to drop signal. I was hoping I might get something out of ABC 27.1. But, no cigar, zip. As has been covered before, ABC 27.1 is no friend to Valdosta digital viewers. I could return the preamp but I will keep it as remainder that preamps do not offset Broadcasters that are too cheap to see the valve of increasing their digital signal strength. :mad:

ClarenceR

07-18-07, 02:16 AM

Actually I was prepared for the results as I have a short cable run and no splitters to drop signal. I was hoping I might get something out of ABC 27.1. But, no cigar, zip. As has been covered before, ABC 27.1 is no friend to Valdosta digital viewers. I could return the preamp but I will keep it as remainder that preamps do not offset Broadcasters that are too cheap to see the valve of increasing their digital signal strength. :mad:
<delusional>
But, c'mon, Ross. 2009 is just a stone's throw away. Rest assured, when the transition is over, WTXL will throw the switch on the dot and you won't have to worry about that little ABC-HD problem anymore. By then, we in the Valdosta area will all adore the fine folks!
</delusional>

Sigh. I'm getting pessimisitic about ABC-HD too. And GPB for that matter. Oh well.

Ross Moody

07-19-07, 09:14 AM

<delusional>
But, c'mon, Ross. 2009 is just a stone's throw away. Rest assured, when the transition is over, WTXL will throw the switch on the dot and you won't have to worry about that little ABC-HD problem anymore. By then, we in the Valdosta area will all adore the fine folks!
</delusional>

Sigh. I'm getting pessimisitic about ABC-HD too. And GPB for that matter. Oh well.

Well guess what? On or about 0730 AM today Channel 27.1 (ABC) popped up on my OTA TV with signal strength of 30. It lasted for approximately 30-60 seconds than disappeared. It must have been caused by plane flying over or space junk falling from the sky. Maybe if those us in Valdosta that might be interested could lease the Goodyear Blimp to hover over our area, we might speed up the 2009 time table. (Yeah right).

falconholic1

07-25-07, 01:12 AM

Don't know if ABC27 changed anything but I was playing with my DB8 antenna (tring to get Fox31) I was getting ABC signal strength in the 30's. I connect my antenna to a pre-amp and to my supprise, I suddendly got a signal between 55-60. So far no HD programming to test on tonight, but I have been getting a signal for a few hours. I just hope I can still get it tommorow. So manybe some good news for us in Valdosta. I live off Hambrick RD. Anybody heard anything from WALB HD.

ClarenceR

07-25-07, 04:43 AM

Anybody heard anything from WALB HD.It's supposed to be this week. When it's up, news of it will be posted at the walb.com (http://www.walb.com/) home page. Also FWIW, WFXL's signal is now up. There's discussion about these developments in the Albany thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11067565).

jrcstudios

07-25-07, 01:38 PM

JRCstudios, please do something about the WTXL audio level differential between the network feed and local commercials! I try to watch some HD on Comcast in DD 5.1 and have to turn up the volume level for the show, then a local advert comes in and deafens me before I can get the volume down. The SPL is at least 10 dB higher locally, and that is dangerous to my tender ears.

It's not just Network and local commercials, but pretty much everything.
You would think that a company that is "a leading broadcast and audiovisual integrator and equipment supplier specializing in the design, installation and maintenance of turnkey audio and video communication systems." (quote from their website) would know to include an automatic audio level control in their design of an automated TV station.... But it's not here! Nor is there ANY way for an operator to control the levels! There's a fix coming, the parts "have been ordered" but it took way too long to get through the red tape of change orders and whatnot.

dsmith901

07-25-07, 03:24 PM

It's not just Network and local commercials, but pretty much everything.
You would think that a company that is "a leading broadcast and audiovisual integrator and equipment supplier specializing in the design, installation and maintenance of turnkey audio and video communication systems." (quote from their website) would know to include an automatic audio level control in their design of an automated TV station.... But it's not here! Nor is there ANY way for an operator to control the levels! There's a fix coming, the parts "have been ordered" but it took way too long to get through the red tape of change orders and whatnot.

Thanks. If you get a chance give us a heads up when the new parts are installed and we can offer feedback.

CapeFish

07-30-07, 08:22 PM

ABC27's Rex Hodges had a story on HD: http://www.wtxl.tv/global/story.asp?s=6857681

The video is online at http://www.wtxl.tv/

chrisgoh

07-30-07, 11:21 PM

Hi,

I'm a total noob but could use some help. I've got a visio hd tv hooked into basic comcast cable. I was playing around today and noted weird channels - like 88-5 which looks like Fox. Some of these channels look like they are broadcast in widescreen. Also found a bunch of music channels. I went to comcasts website and could not find them on a listing. Could someone briefly explain what the heck these channels are and perhaps indicate where I could get a listing of them all? Alternatively, pointing me to where I can get this information myself would also be appreciated.

Thanks!

CapeFish

07-30-07, 11:51 PM

Those are digital channels (HD, MusicChoice, Digital Subchannels) that are unscrambled QAM on Comcast.

Neil Griffin

08-02-07, 11:55 PM

ClarenceR

08-03-07, 12:33 AM

For those of you in the northern part of the Tallahassee market, WALB's digital signal is now on with full power from the new tower at Doerun, GA. Doerun is north of Moultrie. WALB-DT is on 17 and WFXL-DT is on 12 from the same tower.
Phew...some of us natives were getting restless :D

On another note about WCTV-DT:

Anyone notice that the program name and description is not working again? It was there for some weeks and now back to nothing.

CapeFish

08-03-07, 09:17 PM

WTXL going HD Local News on August 11th: http://wtxl.tv/global/Story.asp?s=6858835

richall01

08-04-07, 12:27 AM

WTXL going HD Local News on August 11th: http://wtxl.tv/global/Story.asp?s=6858835

Only, if you live ten feet from the tower! :p It does NO GOOD if those of us in the Valdosta area can't get a signal. The only thing it helps is there sales dept. Sell more ads. We have the News in HD!! (But, no one can view it)

sbturner

08-04-07, 04:00 PM

Only, if you live ten feet from the tower! :p It does NO GOOD if those of us in the Valdosta area can't get a signal. The only thing it helps is there sales dept. Sell more ads. We have the News in HD!! (But, no one can view it)
Ditto man, I can get all networks in HD now except ABC, but most college football is on HD. Get your act together WTXL!!

UNC8185

08-05-07, 03:08 PM

I have been having trouble picking up WFSU-DT in the last few days. The tuner recognizes the signals, but no video is often shown.

Since Friday, I haven't been able to see digital video from WALB. I did watch WFXL-DT on one occasion.

I have been able to pick up digital broadcasts from Panama City, Dothan AL, Columbus GA, Gainesville, and Tampa (one time). I wish that I could pick these signals all of the time. Reception depends on weather and other variables. If I lived on my own plantation or other non-subdivision lot, I might construct a tower and use a large antenna and rotor.

UNC8185

08-05-07, 11:40 PM

WFSU is coming in OK now. Maybe it is a problem on my end.

Tampa was actually an analog signal. Except for Panama City, analog reception is more common than digital.

ClarenceR

08-08-07, 04:53 AM

Source (http://www.fcc.gov/dtv/) - Look under 8/6/07; this full list is Appendix B

WCTV (CBS) - 46
WFSU (PBS) - 32
WTLF (CW) - 24
WTLH (FOX) - 49
WTWC (NBC) - 40
WTXL (ABC) - 27

nick1817

08-08-07, 09:29 AM

So for you Tallahassee D* people- you don't get ANY HD LIL? Do you sign the wiaver to get the NY channels or use a OTA?

rrmcdonald

08-08-07, 09:34 AM

I get HD locals OTA with an antenna in the attic in north Tallahassee (Summerbrooke), run the antenna input into the Vip 622; from what I have read on this board you won't get a waiver in the Tallahassee DMA.

nick1817

08-08-07, 09:36 AM

So the only option is a OTA antenna? The few posts I've read over here don't seem to speak highly of the signal strength, especially ABC (Football)

dabassmonkey

08-08-07, 09:50 AM

So the only option is a OTA antenna? The few posts I've read over here don't seem to speak highly of the signal strength, especially ABC (Football)

If you have a QAM tuner, you can subscribe to the most basic Comcast plan for about 10 bucks and get HD locals that way. I got frustrated with not getting a good signal with my antenna and decided to just pay an extra 10 bucks a month to avoid many frustrating nights.

richall01

08-08-07, 06:44 PM

DirecTV will have the Tallahassee HD LIL mid 08. When the local stations get there act togather. We would have them today, BUT at the time DirecTV wanted to add them only WCTV had a HD boardcast.

CapeFish

08-10-07, 11:46 AM

BadMojo11

08-10-07, 03:57 PM

Has anyone heard anything about getting NFL Network in HD (Here in Tally) if you have the Comcast Sports Package?

http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?t=47838

rew72

08-10-07, 10:38 PM

seanatki

08-11-07, 09:18 AM

Does anyone know if FOX49 will carry the Bucs Preseason Games like usual? I can't find them in the listings. Bucs do the games in HD, and I have seen them on WFTX-DT....do they look nice!

UPDATE: Just checked Zap2It.com and WTLH does have the Bucs game!

As I was watching TV last night, I saw that the Bucs game was on, but it was definitely NOT in HD. It looked like most of WTLH's broadcasts...a copy of a copy of a VHS tape. What kind of equipment do they have over there?

drWaLLs

08-11-07, 11:12 AM

Any news on Mediacom in Valdosta adding ABC HD before college fball season starts. Only 3 weeks to go!Make a decision Mediacom this is disgraceful. I lived in Atlanta 3 years ago and we had local hd with comcast way back then.

I agree.. I am going to be really angry if I miss any HD College Football games because WTXL and Mediacom can't work out a deal - jrcstudios stick your head in there and tell them to hurry the :eek: up

wbwell

08-11-07, 01:28 PM

How is everyones picture looking on WTWC(40) using an antenna? Everytime I try and watch The Office the picture keeps breaking up :( . ANyone having any problems or just me??

BradleyGreen

08-11-07, 06:29 PM

Does anyone else notice a bad lip sync problem on WTWC/NBC? I am getting the channel via Mediacom Valdosta and its unwatchable its so bad.

seanatki

08-11-07, 06:54 PM

I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself, but WTXL is actually broadcasting local news in HD when they said they would. Way to go jrcstudios!

richall01

08-11-07, 08:58 PM

I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself, but WTXL is actually broadcasting local news in HD when they said they would. Way to go jrcstudios!

Like I said " It does NO GOOD if those of us in the Valdosta area can't get a signal. The only thing it helps is there sales dept. Sell more ads. We have the News in HD!! (But, no one can view it)"

carte179

08-12-07, 04:04 PM

I don't have a problem with WTXL HD using 91XG antenna with Channel Master uhf pre-amp. I have been watching WTXL HD for over a year.

Ross Moody

08-13-07, 07:51 AM

How is everyones picture looking on WTWC(40) using an antenna? Everytime I try and watch The Office the picture keeps breaking up :( . ANyone having any problems or just me??

Yes, I get a signal strength of 76-81 but still get those hic ups. Sinclair owned station. Also the one that upped rates to Mediacom cable. Also the one that cancelled the music on 40.2. Not my favorite broadcaster. :mad:

dsmith901

08-15-07, 03:03 PM

I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen it myself, but WTXL is actually broadcasting local news in HD when they said they would. Way to go jrcstudios!

What impresses me is they even use HD camers for local videos outside the studio - something the networks seldom do. Those of us living in Tallahassee will have to start paying more attention to our appearance in case we get caught in the background of a WTXL local story! I may have to start wearing makeup (LOL). I'm a dude just in case you don't know! :p

wbwell

08-15-07, 10:58 PM

Yes, I get a signal strength of 76-81 but still get those hic ups. Sinclair owned station. Also the one that upped rates to Mediacom cable. Also the one that cancelled the music on 40.2. Not my favorite broadcaster. :mad:
Try scanning and see if you get get Albanys NBC(WALB). I ran a channel scan last night and Im picking them up in the high 80's....and no breakups so far!

Alan Gordon

08-16-07, 12:51 AM

What impresses me is they even use HD camers for local videos outside the studio - something the networks seldom do. Those of us living in Tallahassee will have to start paying more attention to our appearance in case we get caught in the background of a WTXL local story!

That impressed me too!

I tuned into WTXL-DT's 11:00 newscast that night after Sean posted about them being HD, and it really surprised me!

I've seen newscasts before on CBS and ABC out of NY, but they had less HD stories than WTXL-DT did!!

~Alan

dsmith901

08-16-07, 02:42 PM

Praise of HD on WTXL must now be tempered (at least for Comcast customers) with concerns about an ongoing problem with dropouts/posterization, and occasional freezeups on network feeds. The problem may be with Comcast but I don't think so.

Jcrstudios please check out this problems with network video and see if you can fix it before the fall season. Thanks.

While I am at it, WTWC audio (on Comcast) has a very high pitch noise today (Thursday, August 16) that is heard on both the analog cable ch 12 and HD channel as well. If anyone is paying attention, please fix this before I go deaf! Thanks.

BradleyGreen

08-16-07, 06:11 PM

Remote shots are not HD but 16x9 SD.

ClarenceR

08-16-07, 08:54 PM

Anyone else noticing that WTLH is showing an analog simulcast and not the digital feed? Also PSIP info has been missing for the past few days.

salvatorep

08-17-07, 08:09 PM

Same here; Friday's NFL Preseason Football is analog, and looks horrible.

1998Nole

08-17-07, 08:39 PM

Same here; Friday's NFL Preseason Football is analog, and looks horrible.
We get ABC back but now we lose Fox. I hope this is a temporary problem.

Roofus

08-18-07, 02:30 AM

We get ABC back but now we lose Fox. I hope this is a temporary problem.

We will get Fox back after the playoffs and lose ABC again right before the start of Lost. :p

ClarenceR

08-19-07, 03:19 PM

Those of us who watch the NFL on WCTV-DT will not get the Tennessee-Jacksonville game in HD in Week 1. WCTV airs Jaguars games most weeks (unless of a bye week or an NFC road team plays or a Jags national TV game). To add insult to injury, it's the only game that week CBS will not broadcast in HD.

Source (http://www.sportsline.com/cbssports/schedules/page/nfl), the CBS week 1 & 2 thread is in the HDTV programming subforum.

Also, if this job listing (http://www.fox49.com/employment%20opportunity.html) means what I think it means then prepare for a rough ride.

CapeFish

08-20-07, 11:35 AM

WCTV pretty much only airs Jaguars road games, so week 1 may be the Fins game in HD.

dsmith901

08-20-07, 03:48 PM

PBSengineer

08-21-07, 09:26 AM

OK, WTXL has been doing HD news for a while now. It seems to be going downhill. My observations: Audio levels continue to be a major problem. Commercials blast me out of the room. News packages, I have to strain to hear. The automation is not programmed correctly: too many times the wrong mike is on. Automated cameras: this am show, they took a shot of the dog to be on the air and could not follow him when he moved and held the shot. The weather graphics look great until they zoom in. The hurricane looks like a pixulated blob. Why? Field cameras look soft more often than not.

They did have months of practice. Didn't they?

Texadillo

08-21-07, 10:01 AM

Field cameras look soft more often than not.

These are not HD cameras. They are widescreen SD.

dsmith901

08-21-07, 01:58 PM

These are not HD cameras. They are widescreen SD.

I never heard of widescreen SD (other than DVDs). Are you sure about that? Do you work there?

Despite PBS's complaints WTXL still has the best looking local news show (and the best looking female anchor) in Tallytown. I agree about the audio, but I am more irritated by network feeds that have too many dropouts, freezes, etc.

Texadillo

08-21-07, 02:04 PM

I never heard of widescreen SD (other than DVDs). Are you sure about that? Do you work there?

No, I don't work there but there are some prime time programs that are broadcast widescreen SD. (COPS & Hell's Kitchen on FOX). I also believe that a lot of programming in Europe has been broadcast this way for some time.

BradleyGreen

08-21-07, 03:57 PM

I don't work there, but I do know for a fact the remote shots are SD widescreen. Beside talking with the engineer over there, it is pretty obvious when watching as well. Most modern digital gear is switchable from 4x3 to 16x9. SD widescreen is an easy temporary solution as it does not require new equipment or more expensive transmission gear and/or time. FOX uses SD widescreen for shows like Hell's Kitchen, So you think you can dance, Cops, and most of their other reality shows. Until 2004, everything broadcast on the FOX network was SD Widescreen or just plain 4x3SD. In Europe, SD widescreen (at 576i) is the standard.

I hope this answers your questions!

Alan Gordon

08-21-07, 04:29 PM

Until 2004, everything broadcast on the FOX network was SD Widescreen or just plain 4x3SD.

Actually, it was ED (Enhanced Definition) Widescreen as it was broadcast in 480p.

The cameras on WTXL-DT looked pretty good to me, and I didn't notice... though I only watched it once.

As for DSmith, most consumer camcorders have a 16x9 mode (though don't try watching it on a 4x3 TV) and a 4x3 letterbox mode (ala a lot of Sci-Fi network programming, etc).

~Alan

BradleyGreen

08-21-07, 06:43 PM

ClarenceR

08-21-07, 08:32 PM

Looks like WTLH is back to normal. Hooray.

For a show that's about moviemaking, On the Lot should be a natural for at least widescreen SD. Seeing windowboxed short films is disappointing.

Alan Gordon

08-21-07, 10:55 PM

Sure, Fox's broadcast was 480p but all the production was done in 480i and deinterlaced at the network using broadcast grade equipment which resulted in a better picture. No one ever really recorded or produced anything in 480p. More importantly, Shooting in 480p would not have avoided the expenses of switching to HDTV.

Yeah, I was referring to the fact that they broadcasted in 480p, not trying to imply that they filmed in 480p.

Sorry if that confused anyone...

~Alan

dsmith901

08-22-07, 10:39 AM

The obvious question now is why is not every HD station and network not showing thier SD material in widescreen using the techniques described here? TNT drives me up the wall when they show reruns of network shows in that godawful stretch mode, EVEN WHEN THE ORIGINAL SHOW WAS BROADCAST IN WS HD! The FCC should mandate that as of January 2009 (or sooner) ALL digital broadcasts, whether HD or SD, or whether OTA or cable/satellite, must originate in the 16:9 format and be broadcast accordingly. That's my rant for the day.

BradleyGreen

08-22-07, 02:02 PM

Yeah, I was referring to the fact that they broadcasted in 480p, not trying to imply that they filmed in 480p.

Sorry if that confused anyone...

~Alan

No problem, I just didn't want anyone to think that 480p was/is a production standard. Too many people think that just because its WS on FOX means it was taped in 480P.

Cheers,

jspaldin

08-23-07, 08:48 AM

Which Tallahassee PBS station is supposed to carry the time sub-channel? My DVD recorder has an auto time setting, but I'm not sure which PBS channel to use.

PBSengineer

08-23-07, 09:00 AM

Time is only on the analog channel 11. Works for some, not all, VCRs

CapeFish

08-23-07, 11:35 AM

Time is only on the analog channel 11. Works for some, not all, VCRs

My ancient 27" RCA TV gets the listings from just rabbit ears. When Comcast gets their butt out here to reconnect me, it will get it through there.

What exactly does the device need to see in order to get the listings/time?

PBSengineer

08-24-07, 09:25 AM

Sony came up with an idea to set the clock in their VCRs in the distant past. on line 21 field 2 (above where you see pictures) there is an XDS signal. It contains UTC time, time zone, station call sign and network. (and now second language closed captions) The idea was to stop the flashing 12:00 on the front of the VCR. Now most VCRs use the feature, but like all tech, they each do it differently. Some requirements are picky. And our signal won't set all VCRs I don't know why and help is hard to come by.

Listings are a whole 'nuther ball of wax. By FCC regulation, ALL digital channels must have a dynamic program guide in their signal. We have 3 days worth of info for 11-1 and 11-3. 11-2 & 11-4 only have what they feed me which is "public service programming" or "educational programming" Other stations here - not so much. You need a ATSC set or set top box to see.
We also broadcast a TV guide listing in our vertical interval in the analog which, I think, is a pay service (they pay us to pass it through) You need a special box or tv to see it.

But Comcast does include a guide in their signal that their box shows.

salvatorep

08-24-07, 08:05 PM

Im unable to get any HD signal at all from WCTV; normally its one of the most solid signals I can receive with my antenna. Is WCTV broadcasting its HD signal this evening?
Anyone else with issues receiving it tonight?

shawnmos

08-25-07, 07:13 AM

Any news on whether WTWC NBC40 will ever fix their digital OTA feed so that it works with Vista's Media Center?

rew72

08-25-07, 05:52 PM

Ross Moody

08-25-07, 07:52 PM

Is anyone in Valdosta on Mediacom experiencing trouble on ch 812 which is fox 31 hd/albany? It will no longer come up when you try and watch it. Can anyone in Valdosta pick up the Fox Hd channel OTA consistently. If so, what are you using.

#1 YES ; #2 NO however I at least get 31.1 OTA occasionally. I am now getting ZIP from 10.1 (NBC Albany ) OTA. Come on Albany engineers do you want to be in the same incompetent class as 27.1 (ABC Tally)?

ClarenceR

08-25-07, 08:09 PM

#1 YES ; #2 NO however I at least get 31.1 OTA occasionally. I am now getting ZIP from 10.1 (NBC Albany ) OTA. Come on Albany engineers do you want to be in the same incompetent class as 27.1 (ABC Tally)?
I am getting a steady signal from WALB-DT at home right now. Maybe I can check for signal disruptions while watching tonight...

jay_waller

08-26-07, 02:05 PM

I'm located on top of a hill off of atascadero on the east side of town. this is near the 90 and i-10 intersection (last tally exit). I'm looking into getting an OTA setup. I'm using three D* hd receivers right now and am looking at a reliable source for local ota hd/digital channels. Do most people install their own equip or have local installers do it? I'm looking for an external rotary setup that can be multiplexed throughout the house.

Any suggestions on installers? I got one quote yesterday and it was $750.00 - Also, what channels should I be able to get with a good externally mounted setup? I would like to get the basics include FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC. I'm getting FOX 49 and sometimes CBS 6 with rabbit ears in my living room but never NBC and/or ABC. Luckily, I have waiver for those with DirecTV and receive the east coast affiliates in HD.

TIA

sfoltz

08-27-07, 10:44 AM

[QUOTE=jay_waller;11427247]I'm located on top of a hill off of atascadero on the east side of town. this is near the 90 and i-10 intersection (last tally exit). I'm looking into getting an OTA setup. I'm using three D* hd receivers right now and am looking at a reliable source for local ota hd/digital channels. Do most people install their own equip or have local installers do it? I'm looking for an external rotary setup that can be multiplexed throughout the house.

Any suggestions on installers? I got one quote yesterday and it was $750.00 - Also, what channels should I be able to get with a good externally mounted setup? I would like to get the basics include FOX, CBS, NBC, ABC. I'm getting FOX 49 and sometimes CBS 6 with rabbit ears in my living room but never NBC and/or ABC. Luckily, I have waiver for those with DirecTV and receive the east coast affiliates in HD./QUOTE]

Jay,

I live in the Northshire subdivision off Roberts Road, which is around 5 miles NW of you. I installed an old fashioned vhf/uhf antenna (it was given to me so I do not know the brand, but its pretty big) on my chimney with a Channel Master rotor I purchased at Lowes. I use a Channel Master multiswitch and diplexers to feed the D* receivers the over-the-air signals. I installed it on the chimney to get it as high up as I could. My house is totally surrounded by trees. Using Google Earth or other aerial photography sites, you can barely see just some of the roof of my house, but its basically covered with canopy.

With my newer D* receiver, I usually receive all the locals (except 24-1, the CW, which is not HD and is very low power) without having to use the rotor. My older D* receivers I need to turn the rotor to get PBS and ABC. I'm also receiving Albany Fox (31-1) and sometimes Albany NBC (10-1) at night. On rare occassions I get some PC stations. I can get the CW (24-1) if I use the rotor, but its pointless since it comes in on 49-2 and its just standard def. Given that I did the installation myself with a used antenna and the tree cover, I think you should get all the local stations.

I can not recommend an installer. Did the $750 quote include the hardware or is that just installation? I have to admit that I did not properly ground my antenna and if you're cautious about those things (which you probably should be) it can get pretty labor intensive. If you want to check out my setup, you can email me or send me a private message.

jay_waller

08-27-07, 11:19 AM

Scott, thanks for the response. The quote was all inclusive including cable runs, mast, antenna, rotor, amplifiers, and installation. The technician said that I would rarely have to move the rotor but that during certain times of the year slight rotation is necessary to keep the strongest signal. I spoke to my in-laws over in B-town and they had a system installed for around 6-700 several years ago. I did get the idea from the guy that he is methodical about installing it properly.

I would love to see your setup and would be glad for you to see mine. Since this house is a new construction completed in March I did all the wiring myself and have a dedicated home theater. We watched the UFC 74 pay-per-view in HD the other night and it was incredible.

I will PM you. I love to see other people's setups and share knowledge and information. Since I'm only a few miles from Metcalf I think it will work out pretty well for me. I was just wondering if there was something I could do in the attic as opposed to having the externally mounted antenna. I have to consult my homeowner's association covenants. Isn't it federally mandated by the FCC that consumers are allowed to put up terrestrial antennas without violating any homeowner's covenants?

sfoltz

08-27-07, 11:29 AM

Yes, you have a federal right to install an outside tv antenna. Its my understanding that our local NBC channel will ultimately convert over to the UHF band from its VHF signal (leave it to Tally to have one of the few VHF digital stations in the nation). Once this is done, all you will need is a UHF antenna.

I tried the attic route, but it did not work. What is your subdivision. I can pull the covenants off the public records and look at them for you (I'm an attorney).

jay_waller

08-27-07, 01:30 PM

"Walden Place Addition" is the name of the neighborhood, not to be confused with the older (circa 1989) Walden Place. Thanks for checking that out for me.

1998Nole

08-27-07, 09:07 PM

It looks like Fox is having issues with HD again.

ClarenceR

08-27-07, 10:20 PM

It looks like Fox is having issues with HD again.

I emailed the engineers about the low-volume issue on the CW subchannel 49.2. They replied that lightning struck their Midway studio and that caused the audio on 49.2 to screw up. That could also explain the absence of the digital feed. They said would get everything back to normal by the end of the week, possibly Friday at the earliest.

1998Nole

08-27-07, 11:59 PM

I emailed the engineers about the low-volume issue on the CW subchannel 49.2. They replied that lightning struck their Midway studio and that caused the audio on 49.2 to screw up. That could also explain the absence of the digital feed. They said would get everything back to normal by the end of the week, possibly Friday at the earliest.

Thanks for the update. I just hope it is all fixed by football season.

ClarenceR

08-29-07, 02:33 PM

WCTV pretty much only airs Jaguars road games, so week 1 may be the Fins game in HD.
FWIW, Zap2It lists the Titans/Jags game as being on WCTV on Sept. 9.

Texadillo

08-30-07, 05:06 PM

Is anyone else having a problem with the sound from WTXLHD? I receive my signal via Comcast. My audio receiver indicates a Dolby Digital signal but there is no center channel sound. All voices that should be coming from the center are being sent to the two front speakers. This has been happening for at least two weeks. Thanks

PBSengineer

08-31-07, 09:05 AM

Yep, their local is stereo and they send it to L & R so that the signal is 5.1 all the time. They should use a surround synth, but alas. Sort of like they could make the commercials not louder than everything else, but maybe too much trouble to train people.
Did you watch the Bobby Bowden show last night. Sure would have been nice to hear the callers. Even after finding the audio, they kept losing it. Too much trouble to hire an audio guy for a live production?

Texadillo

08-31-07, 09:41 AM

It's not just Network and local commercials, but pretty much everything.
You would think that a company that is "a leading broadcast and audiovisual integrator and equipment supplier specializing in the design, installation and maintenance of turnkey audio and video communication systems." (quote from their website) would know to include an automatic audio level control in their design of an automated TV station.... But it's not here! Nor is there ANY way for an operator to control the levels! There's a fix coming, the parts "have been ordered" but it took way too long to get through the red tape of change orders and whatnot.

jrcstudios, will this fix take care of the problem mentioned in the last two posts?

mgrosh

08-31-07, 02:29 PM

I just want ESPN HD to watch the noles on TV this year.

obviously i can't get it over the air....

So i called COMCAST

right now i have basic cable (9.95) a month.

They list a HD package on their website that costs (6.95) and includes discovery HD ESPN HD ABC HD FOX HD etc...

when i talked to a rep he sold me the upgrade and afterwards i thanked him and said "good i really wanted to watch football on ESPN"

of course he then said... oh... you wont get ESPN..
i said "???? It specifically says ESPN HD on the website"

SO he said i needed tp pay another $60 to upgrade to full Digital Cable then i can add the 6.95 to get ESPN HD

ok so i did that.. thanked him again (but not happy) and remembed to ask what type of connection comes out of the box..

he said "A digital one of course.."
i said "no. no... what type of cable?"
he said "RCA or Coax....."
"huh... thoses aren't digital????? i need a HDMI connection"

So he said i needed to upgrade to their HD DVR box in order to get HDMI witch costs 11.95

"well... ok.. 11.95 fee is not bad"
he Said "no... an additional 11.95 a month"
"WTF... " i told him nevermind.. its not worth 9.95 + 60 + 6.95 +11.95 to get ESPN.

Is he full of crap or is this what you have to do to get ESPN HD in tallahassee????

drWaLLs

08-31-07, 02:59 PM

I just talked with a Media-com tech....
Stay tuned...

Well I have stayed tuned for 2+ months now.. and ABC college football in HD starts Saturday.. yet Mediacom still doesn't have ABC - next will be season premiers I miss I guess... :mad:

Ross Moody

08-31-07, 06:47 PM

CapeFish

08-31-07, 08:23 PM

You should get ESPN-HD via Comcast Tallahassee with the following:

Digital Starter $50.50
+ HD Pack $6.95
$57.45 + taxes per month

rew72

08-31-07, 11:44 PM

Mediacrap in Valdosta is one of the worst experiences concerning a service provider EVER!!!! They have TWO NBC hd channels! But no ABC hd. WTH?!

CapeFish

09-01-07, 11:35 PM

An SD note on my observations as of late....

ABC27's analog signal (Channel 7 on Comcast) looks horrible as of late when they air ABC network programming. The pixelation is severe to the point the game (Tenn-Cal) on now is almost unwatchable. It looks like a nightmare digital cable channel, but the TV I am using to watch it is plugged directly into the Comcast cable source. I also notice it using rabbit ears on several TVs.

What is going on at WTXL with the analog signal to create such poor quality. Even tame programs such as Nightline or 20/20 pixelate severely on analog as of late.

browe

09-02-07, 09:57 PM

Seihaku

09-03-07, 10:42 AM

You should get ESPN-HD via Comcast Tallahassee with the following:

Digital Starter $50.50
+ HD Pack $6.95
$57.45 + taxes per month

I've been trying to call, chat, and generally contact Comcast about that, and I've been told repeatidly that I have to have something more than the Digital Starter package to get ESPN HD. It's a total and complete croc of crap.

LCSeminole

09-03-07, 02:00 PM

Gentlemen, I live in Killearn Estates and have been receiving the Digital Starter Package along with the HD channels for at least a year, so someone at Comcast is either yanking your chain or they stopped offering it that way. I personally can't wait till AT&T & Verizon move into the Tallahassee market with their TV packages. I'm sure it will be awhile but Comcast will have no other choice but to start singing another tune.:mad:

Ipsissimus

09-03-07, 03:22 PM

I've been using Comcast Analog Standard package with a MythTV and hauppage MCE500 tuner setup for about a year. I'm wanting to switch to Comcast Digital Cable, not necessarily HDTV. What tuner card are you using and what cable boxes does Comcast provide? Do you need to use usb/firewire support on the boxes to change and record channels? I've been looking at the pcHDTV HD-550 (http://www.pchdtv.com/) tuner. Any experience?

-- Thanks

UNC8185

09-03-07, 10:04 PM

I posted here earlier in the year. I live out Centerville Road just past Proctor Road. Last night I was able to get Fox49, NBC, and CBS in HD. I am still unable to get ABC in HD. I have DirecTV DVR with the OTA tuner. I am using an antenna from Walmart. Is there an antenna that will get me ABC in HD?

I live nearby. I use an inexpensive antenna that was installed by the satellite installers for the prior owners, a Winegard GS-1100. I was only able to get all of the local HD channels when a local dealer suggested I try an outdoor amplifier. I got a cheap one from Lowe's (Spartan 3) and used the a diplexer/splitter that passed dc current to the antenna line to get power to the mast amplifier. After installing this amplifier, the weakest signal is WFSU, which breaks up on occasion. Fox-29 occasionally shows a few pauses. WTXT-HD comes in solidly. I also occasionally pick up digital signals from Panama City and Albany, GA (Ch. 31, but not Ch. 10) and rarely from Columbus GA and Dothan Alabama. I wish that I could install a large outdoor antenna, but I am unable to do that. I may try a large UHF antenna in the attic (e.g. ChannelMastger 4228 with a pre-amp).

Good luck!