It looks like the FOX digital feed on WTLH is back.

I have been without OTA for WCTV (CBS channel 6), WTLH (Fox 49) and WTXL (ABC 27) since at least Friday. I get WTWC (NBC). Still nothing this morning. Am I alone or are they out for everybody?

I have been without OTA for WCTV (CBS channel 6), WTLH (Fox 49) and WTXL (ABC 27) since at least Friday. I get WTWC (NBC). Still nothing this morning. Am I alone or are they out for everybody?

I'm getting all of them.

NOT what I wanted to hear, but at least now I know I need to look for the cause...

There are 2 new:) HD channels on Comcast:
Food Network 414
HGTV 415


What a total waste of bandwidth. Save it for Sci-Fi, USA, CW, and BBC please.

Can anyone explain to me why WCTV-HD does not broadcast their NFL games in HD?

CBS did not provide WCTV (or any other CBS affiliate) an HD feed of this yesterday's Titans-Jaguars game.

CBS did not provide WCTV (or any other CBS affiliate) an HD feed of this yesterday's Titans-Jaguars game.
Correct. The pre-game show was in HD, though. WCTV also aired all their preseason games last month in HD.

Based on early reports (a.k.a. Zap2It), WCTV will air both doubleheader games in HD. FOX games in either Albany or Tallahassee will be in HD also.

WCTV/WSWG (CBS)
1:00 Colts @ Titans
4:00 Chiefs @ Bears

WTLH (FOX)
1:00 Saints @ Bucs

WFXL (FOX, Albany)
1:00 Falcons @ Jaguars

It will be highly unlikely that we'll see the only non-HD CBS week three telecast of Browns vs. Raiders (http://www.sportsline.com/cbssports/schedules/page/nfl) on September 23.

Subject to change, YMMV, and insert your personal disclaimers here.

What a total waste of bandwidth. Save it for Sci-Fi, USA, CW, and BBC please.

I have been looking forward to Comcast carrying FOOD HD and HGTV HD and I have not been disappointed. Waste of bandwidth is an opinion (CW would be a waste in my opinion). I want Comcast to carry every HD channel available and I will choose which ones I want to watch. I surely don't want them "saving" bandwidth for HD channels that don't exist. When new HD channels are launched, Comcast should be able to add them here by removing analog channels.

I have been looking forward to Comcast carrying FOOD HD and HGTV HD and I have not been disappointed. Waste of bandwidth is an opinion (CW would be a waste in my opinion). I want Comcast to carry every HD channel available and I will choose which ones I want to watch. I surely don't want them "saving" bandwidth for HD channels that don't exist. When new HD channels are launched, Comcast should be able to add them here by removing analog channels.

Agree, they need to add NFL Network HD next, makes sense since we already have the regular flavor!

I am sure there is someone out there who would love the shopping channels in HD, or a religious channel in HD, or a channel about stamp collecting in HD - each to his own. But even when they recapture analog bandwidth there is only so much room available for HD (at least with current technology). IMO HD bandwidth should first be allocated to popular entertainment channels and not special interest hobby channels (I include golf in that category). I am just afraid that when SCiFi, USA, CW, and BBC go HD in the near future that Comcast won't have bandwidth for them. And you and I both know why they went with those odd channels for HD - they are super cheap, cheap, cheap, and they still get to brag about their new HD channels. And it gives them an excuse to raise their rates again, which they just did. So I guess we have you food and garden lovers to thank for our higher rates (LOL - no offense).

I am sure there is someone out there who would love the shopping channels in HD, or a religious channel in HD, or a channel about stamp collecting in HD - each to his own. But even when they recapture analog bandwidth there is only so much room available for HD (at least with current technology). IMO HD bandwidth should first be allocated to popular entertainment channels and not special interest hobby channels (I include golf in that category). I am just afraid that when SCiFi, USA, CW, and BBC go HD in the near future that Comcast won't have bandwidth for them. And you and I both know why they went with those odd channels for HD - they are super cheap, cheap, cheap, and they still get to brag about their new HD channels. And it gives them an excuse to raise their rates again, which they just did. So I guess we have you food and garden lovers to thank for our higher rates (LOL - no offense).

Again, bandwidth should not be reserved for networks not yet broadcasting in HD. Once they are, if Comcast feels there is enough demand for them, they can make room for them by getting rid of the "Hobby" channels that you obviously don't care for. You are right, it is about money. If Comcast thinks they can increase viewers by getting rid of Food HD and showing CW HD, they will.

I guess I will be able to thank you for higher rates when CW HD begins broadcasting their inferior programming and Comcast adds it to the lineup. (LOL - no offense).

CW is a big disappointment - the old WB had tons of good shows (Buffy, Angel, Nikita, Roswell, Gilmore, Veronica, Firefly, Smallville, etc. Alas all gone but Smallville; but I keep hoping they will find their butts and get back to producing the good stuff again. Anyway, I would rather watch reruns of all those shows in HD than any hobby channel. CW IS available in HD if the network would just give it to us (another reason they are a bunch of losers)!

CW is a big disappointment - the old WB had tons of good shows (Buffy, Angel, Nikita, Roswell, Gilmore, Veronica, Firefly, Smallville, etc. Alas all gone but Smallville; but I keep hoping they will find their butts and get back to producing the good stuff again. Anyway, I would rather watch reruns of all those shows in HD than any hobby channel. CW IS available in HD if the network would just give it to us (another reason they are a bunch of losers)!
Firefly was a FOX show ;)

I think Universal HD still re-airs Firefly from time to time.

But yeah, the NETWORK denying the Tallahassee market HD is lame.

Firefly was a FOX show ;)

I think Universal HD still re-airs Firefly from time to time.

But yeah, the NETWORK denying the Tallahassee market HD is lame.

I stand corrected. Firefly was produced by Joss Whedon who made Buffy and Angel and I guess I strongly associate him with WB. Yeah, the Firefly reruns on Universal HD are terrific. Why do so many good shows get canceled so quickly while garbage like all those CSI shows multiply like rabbits?

My gripe of the day: Why is audio so hard for the digital broadcasters? I don't know of a single local digital broadcaster that consistently gets it right. They either broadcast everything in DD 2.0 (and even screw that up sometimes) or their 5.1 gets muddled up somehow. I was just watching ABC news on WTXLHD (Comcast 431) this evening and the audio suddenly became hollow and had an echo on it. The analog channel (Comcast 7) OTOH was fine. And let me add the Sci-Fi channel, which is Comcast channel 64 - their new primetime network shows (Flash Gordon for example) have audio that is obviously recorded in surround but all the surround channels are badly overdriven, so that you have to strain to hear the center channel over the roaring background. Don't they know how to balance their audio channels. It appears to be a network problem because commercials sound fine - only the prime shows are screwed up this way. Have any of you guys who get Sci-Fi off satellite noticed this, because I don't think it is a Comcast problem?

Just wanted to take a quick poll (mainly so that I'll stop messing with my antenna).

Can anyone in the Tally area get WTWC's digital (freq. 2) signal with an indoor antenna? I know you need quite a large antenna to pick up a frequency that low, but I can get it fading in and out with 32 as a peak.

Thanks.

Sean

ND-Michigan is not on HD on WTXL-DT. Sigh.

ND-Michigan is not on HD on WTXL-DT. Sigh.

It was in HD on Comcast, it must have been an OTA problem.

Is there problems with the over the air HD signal on WTWC (ch 49)? I am watching the Chargers/N.E. game and can not pick up the HD feed....

Apologize if this has been discussed in this thread already...

What do people in Tally use for getting HD Channels? I dont want any commitment/contracts. I am also not interested in regular channels....What is my best bet?

I just called dish network, and to get all their HD Channels, the minimum price seems to be $130 a month! :) [Without a commitment]

They have 38 HD channels. DirecTV seems to have 12 HD Channels for which they want 2 year commitment (no options for non-commitment users). No idea about comcast...yet

NBC WTWC OTA is on Channel 40 not 49

[/B]With regards to WTWC digital 2,..it is one of the most stable signals in town.
You must have a VHF antenna to get it right. And, it would also help to have an amplifier or preamp in the line.
Static noise will cause it to break up from time to time momentarily, but the channel looks good. I live out North Monroe north of I-10.

[/B]With regards to WTWC digital 2,..it is one of the most stable signals in town.
You must have a VHF antenna to get it right. And, it would also help to have an amplifier or preamp in the line.
Static noise will cause it to break up from time to time momentarily, but the channel looks good. I live out North Monroe north of I-10.

Interesting....My antenna does pick up VHF and I can't not lock it in (or even find anything for that matter). I am a Dish Network customer and my antenna runs through my dish box. When I do the search for local channels, I get everything but NBC. Even if I go directly to 40.1, I do not get anything. The regular feed comes in just fine over Dish, but the HD feed I just can't find....

I am headed to bestbuy to pick up a new antenna today. I need an extra one, so I am going to pick up a differant model then the one I have now. Want to see if one is better then the other. Any suggestions?

I live on the West side of town, Tharpe and Capital Circle.

I am using the low to medium range Vhf/Uhf antenna from Radio Shack with a 10 db amplifier.

Interesting....My antenna does pick up VHF and I can't not lock it in (or even find anything for that matter). I am a Dish Network customer and my antenna runs through my dish box. When I do the search for local channels, I get everything but NBC. Even if I go directly to 40.1, I do not get anything. The regular feed comes in just fine over Dish, but the HD feed I just can't find....

I am headed to bestbuy to pick up a new antenna today. I need an extra one, so I am going to pick up a differant model then the one I have now. Want to see if one is better then the other. Any suggestions?

I live on the West side of town, Tharpe and Capital Circle.

Hi, fsubelch. I live in Summerbrooke (10 miles north of downtown straight out Meridian road), have Dish Vip622 and Vip 211 receivers. I have a channelmaster 3018 I got from Lowes in the attic, split to the 2 HD receivers, no amplifiers. Per anntennaweb.org I am about 20 miles from the antennas. I get WTWC NBC at about 76, Fox, CBS and ABC in the 90s. Being on the west side of town you may need a larger one than I have, but you should be able to have one pointed towards the NE and pick up all 4 of the stations.

It was in HD on Comcast, it must have been an OTA problem.


It may have been for you, but not for me. I don't use OTA.

Killearn Acres area.

Thanks for the info. Like I said, I am heading to Best Buy today to pick up a new antenna. I think I am going to go with the Terk Indoor Amplified HDTV Antenna - Model: HDTVA. It seems to get great reviews from various sites online. Maybe this will give me enough power to find the lone lost NBC HD feed. All my other channels are coming in great (fox, ABC, and CBS...along with all the FSU channels)

Terk antenna - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7322587&st=hd+antenna&type=product&id=1118844608800

***Found this one at Radio Shack, maybe better?
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?summary=summary&techSpecs=techSpecs&currentTab=techSpecs&custRatings=custRatings&features=features&accessories=accessories&productId=2253765&support=support&tab=features

Scratch that last radio shack link, I need to stick with an indoor antenna...

So it is narrowed down to the Terk one from best buy and this one

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2131034&cp=2032057.2032187.2032189.2032204&fbx=0&allCount=41&fbn=Brand%2FRadioShack&f=PAD%2FProduct+Type%2FHDTV&f=Brand%2F1000094%2F&fbc=1&parentPage=family

Any input????

One of the problems with indoor antennas is that they do not deal with multipath well.
If there is a multipath problem where you are with a given channel, strong multipath can totally scramble a digital signal.

Does anyone know when the Sci-Fi network is supposed to go HD? What about USA (network)?

Thanks.

Does anyone know when the Sci-Fi network is supposed to go HD? What about USA (network)?

Thanks.

The USA network is in HD (or at least I believe it is), I do not think any of the local providers (comcast, direct tv or Dish) are carrying it yet.

The USA network is in HD (or at least I believe it is), I do not think any of the local providers (comcast, direct tv or Dish) are carrying it yet.

According to the USA Network web site: "An HD version of USA Network is tentatively planned for the fourth quarter of 2007."

One of the problems with indoor antennas is that they do not deal with multipath well.
If there is a multipath problem where you are with a given channel, strong multipath can totally scramble a digital signal.

I would love a nice outdoor antenna, but I do not own the condo I live in, so I have to live with an indoor antenna.

Can someone tell me where the NBC sat. is located in our area?

See this thread if your question is about D* HD Channels.

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=365869&page=2

Thanks for the info. Like I said, I am heading to Best Buy today to pick up a new antenna. I think I am going to go with the Terk Indoor Amplified HDTV Antenna - Model: HDTVA. It seems to get great reviews from various sites online. Maybe this will give me enough power to find the lone lost NBC HD feed. All my other channels are coming in great (fox, ABC, and CBS...along with all the FSU channels)

Terk antenna - http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7322587&st=hd+antenna&type=product&id=1118844608800

***Found this one at Radio Shack, maybe better?
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?summary=summary&techSpecs=techSpecs&currentTab=techSpecs&custRatings=custRatings&features=features&accessories=accessories&productId=2253765&support=support&tab=features


It might be totally different now.

I tried both three years ago in the PinneyZ area and they both could not pull in anything for me. At that time, It was only CBS and NBC were broadcasting.

I later tried the RatShack one in the Rosehill area (closer) and to no avail. The SilverSensor works but with break ups from time to time and No VHF.

Good luck.

It might be totally different now.

I tried both three years ago in the PinneyZ area and they both could not pull in anything for me. At that time, It was only CBS and NBC were broadcasting.

I later tried the RatShack one in the Rosehill area (closer) and to no avail. The SilverSensor works but with break ups from time to time and No VHF.

Good luck.

I live in PinneyZ area also and I have a Winegard GS2000 and I get all four networks.

I went ahead and picked up the Terk one from Best Buy. I will install it tonight after work and give a report on it tomorrow.

Well, the Terk antenna is GREAT. The signal strength is awesome and am not having any problems....except for on. I am still not getting NBC HD. I am currently getting
6.1
6.2
11.1
11.2
11.3
11.4
24.1
27.1
27.2
49.1
49.2

I am NOT getting 40.1. I do get channel 40 via Dish Network, but we all know that is not HD. What is the deal? What do I have to do to get channel 40.1?

I went ahead and picked up the Terk one from Best Buy. I will install it tonight after work and give a report on it tomorrow.

I wish you the best of luck, but it is my understanding that the VHF element on the TERK HTDVA is just a dipole antenna (rabbit ears) like you would get from any other indoor antenna. This leads me to believe that if one indoor antenna can't get NBC (freq. 2) for you, then none of them will.

That said, though, I will eagerly await your report.

According to the USA Network web site: "An HD version of USA Network is tentatively planned for the fourth quarter of 2007."

Thanks - hopefully Comcast Tally will carry it. What about SciFi?

Does anyone know when the Sci-Fi network is supposed to go HD? What about USA (network)?

DirecTV will be carrying Sci-Fi HD next month, which leads me to believe that next month will be the start-up date... possibly the first half of the month.

I believe DirecTV will also be carrying USA-HD starting sometime next month.

For a look at some other channels going HD soon, check out: DirecTV 100 HD (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=P4360042).

Oh by the way, Comcast announced it will be adding TBS-HD in time for the MLB Playoffs...

~Alan<~~~~~~~Who is looking forward to some new national "HD" on DirecTV Wednesday...

DirecTV will be carrying Sci-Fi HD next month, which leads me to believe that next month will be the start-up date... possibly the first half of the month.

I believe DirecTV will also be carrying USA-HD starting sometime next month.

For a look at some other channels going HD soon, check out: DirecTV 100 HD (http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=P4360042).

Oh by the way, Comcast announced it will be adding TBS-HD in time for the MLB Playoffs...

~Alan<~~~~~~~Who is looking forward to some new national "HD" on DirecTV Wednesday...

Thanks. Now if we can get Tallahassee Comcast to commit to both that will be good news.

Thanks. Now if we can get Tallahassee Comcast to commit to both that will be good news.

But won't that give them a reason to raise our rates? :)

But won't that give them a reason to raise our rates? :)

Of course, but the annual rate increase has already occurred, and that was for a couple of HD hobby channels that have zero interest for most. At least if we have to pay more it will be for something worth watching for more people.

Of course, but the annual rate increase has already occurred, and that was for a couple of HD hobby channels that have zero interest for most. At least if we have to pay more it will be for something worth watching for more people.

I can guarantee you that the annual increase would have occured with or without FoodHD and HGTV HD. If you think differently you are truly clueless. It is clear from your posts that if you don't like a channel then no one likes it. I beleive the "Hobby" channels as you call them have more viewers than you realize. You have stated that bandwidth should be reserved for "popular" entertainment channels such as CW. If you check you will find that the spanish network Univision has consitently been pulling in higher ratings than CW. Using your logic, you should be campaigning to have Univision HD added instead of CW.

Bottom line: I want Comcast to add every HD channel available, even the ones I have no interest in, and let people choose the programming they like. Prices will go up with or without new channels. You should keep in mind that just because you have no interest in a channel does not make it a waste of bandwidth.

Well, the Terk antenna is GREAT. The signal strength is awesome and am not having any problems....except for on. I am still not getting NBC HD. I am currently getting
6.1
6.2
11.1
11.2
11.3
11.4
24.1
27.1
27.2
49.1
49.2

I am NOT getting 40.1. I do get channel 40 via Dish Network, but we all know that is not HD. What is the deal? What do I have to do to get channel 40.1?

Sorry to be impatient, but I wanted to bump this post to see if anyone could help me get NBC HD????

I can guarantee you that the annual increase would have occured with or without FoodHD and HGTV HD. If you think differently you are truly clueless. It is clear from your posts that if you don't like a channel then no one likes it. I beleive the "Hobby" channels as you call them have more viewers than you realize. You have stated that bandwidth should be reserved for "popular" entertainment channels such as CW. If you check you will find that the spanish network Univision has consitently been pulling in higher ratings than CW. Using your logic, you should be campainging to have Univision HD added instead of CW.

Bottom line: I want Comcast to add every HD channel available, even the ones I have no interest in, and let people choose the programming they like. Prices will go up with or without new channels. You should keep in mind that just because you have no interest in a channel does not make it a waste of bandwidth.

LOL. That is EXACTLY what I said a few months ago when dsmith was knocking Comcast for getting The Golf Channel in HD. I must say, I have watched that channel for HOURS since we got it (especially now since they almost always cover the first 2 days of PGA tour events in HD). I searched for a few minutes to try and show that the Golf Channel might get more (or close to) the same amount of viewers as the CW (which might be false), but I wasn't able to find any such websites. Anyways, I completely agree...the more HD channels the better. I never thought I would watch the Food Channel HD or HGTV, but I actually found myself watching it a lot the last couple weeks...and this fact is a little hard to admit, haha. This competition between the cable companies and the satellite companies are only good for the viewers, I feel. Bring on more HD! :)

As DirecTV users might already have noticed, no new HD channels this morning. While the official word is that they will be up by the end of "September," rumor is good that they may still turn up this week still. Friday seems to be a good possibility...

Also of note for you Comcast customers is the announcement that:

MGM HD: Comcast Launch Expected (http://www.tvpredictions.com/mgmcomcast091907.htm)

MGM HD is a upcoming 24 hour HD channel showcasing MGM's movie library. It has already been announced as coming to DirecTV... possibly as early as next month...

~Alan

As DirecTV users might already have noticed, no new HD channels this morning. While the official word is that they will be up by the end of "September," rumor is good that they may still turn up this week still. Friday seems to be a good possibility...

Also of note for you Comcast customers is the announcement that:

MGM HD: Comcast Launch Expected (http://www.tvpredictions.com/mgmcomcast091907.htm)

MGM HD is a upcoming 24 hour HD channel showcasing MGM's movie library. It has already been announced as coming to DirecTV... possibly as early as next month...

~Alan

Another premium channel, no doubt, so what is the big deal?

As for all you food and golf nuts who love your HD, pleae cool your jets! I too want all the HD I can get, but despite your love for those hobby channels the fact is they will never draw the viewers that a national entertainment network will draw. CW is NOT my favorite channel, though the old WB that preceded it used to be. And as your testimony proves, people will watch HD just because it is HD, not because it is great viewing. I too spent hours watching the INHD channels when I first got HD on a plasma TV - it was eye candy. But comparing the crappy PQ of the analog CW channel with any HD channel is just not apples to apples. If CW ever goes HD here AND if it returns to the level of quality that was common on WB, then I guarantee you CW will outdraw your beloved golf and food channels, at least during prime time. As for the recent rate increase - let us hope it included anticipated costs of adding SciFi and USA in HD.

Another premium channel, no doubt, so what is the big deal?

MGM-HD is an ad supported network

Another premium channel, no doubt, so what is the big deal?

Texadillo already sort of answered this, but it's not really a premium channel (other than HD is considered a premium). It's kind of like UniversalHD (though whether or not it will show any TV shows associated with MGM ala UniversalHD remains to be seen, and there won't be any sports).

For instance, DirecTV charges $10.99 a month HD Access. If you have it in SD in your SD package, you will receive it in HD (when available). Starting in December, channels without a SD channel (HDNet, HDNet Movies, DiscoveryHD Theater, MHD, UniversalHD, MGM-HD, and Smithsonian-HD) will cost $4.99 extra. I don't really know how Comcast does their packages, but it probably won't be considered a premium...

~Alan

Anybody seen this before in Comcast HD ("Today" on NBC40 HD)?

http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/1319/image00049oc1.th.jpg (http://img466.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image00049oc1.jpg)

Saw that stuff last night during NBC Nightly News. Sigh, something else has crashed.

I have a small windguard disk with amplifier that I bought at Radioshack a while back. I get awesome 40.1 living between Centerville and Micosukee. Depending what week it is, it gets all the others off and on. Despite being circular, it needs to be rotated for best results. also, I have gotten way different results depending which side of the house its on.
I have found the Directv boxes to work better at tuning in the channels than anything else.
The moral of the story-there are a lot of variables.

Comcast has announced that they will be adding the following channels in Houston on 10/23. Maybe there is hope for us.

USA HD
History HD
CNN HD
TBS HD
The Fox Business Channel

There are a couple in there I have no interest in, but I would still be glad to see them added.

Anyone know the name of the company (or any company) that will run a new cable line into your house? I need my comcast internet on a seperate line. It is currently tied in the same line as my Dish Network, and one of the TV's is very fuzzy. When we unplug the internet the other tv is fine. So I know for sure running a new cable line dedicated to the internet will fix this problem. The comcast guy told me the company they use, but I can't remeber the name...

Anyone know the name of the company (or any company) that will run a new cable line into your house? I need my comcast internet on a seperate line. It is currently tied in the same line as my Dish Network, and one of the TV's is very fuzzy. When we unplug the internet the other tv is fine. So I know for sure running a new cable line dedicated to the internet will fix this problem. The comcast guy told me the company they use, but I can't remeber the name...

I would expect Comcast to do that, for a fee of course. Check with them and the Dish Network installer.

While watching Firefly on Comcast 409 last night I saw a promo for HDNet, which carries Torchwood and Smallville in HD among others. Any chance Comcast will carry HDNet?

Comcast has announced that they will be adding the following channels in Houston on 10/23. Maybe there is hope for us.

USA HD
History HD
CNN HD
TBS HD
The Fox Business Channel

There are a couple in there I have no interest in, but I would still be glad to see them added.

Entertainment channels like USA and History are all good. No one needs to see CNN and Fox Business news in HD. Again, they are eating up precious bandwidth for these cheapo channels. Where is SciFi, or HDNet?

I would expect Comcast to do that, for a fee of course. Check with them and the Dish Network installer.

Called comcast yesterday and learned that they will run a new line for $24.

While watching Firefly on Comcast 409 last night I saw a promo for HDNet, which carries Torchwood and Smallville in HD among others. Any chance Comcast will carry HDNet?

Considering HDNet and HDNet Movies have been around for years, I'd say no. The owner Mark Cuban and Comcast can't come to an agreement... which is a shame as both satellite companies and pretty much every cable system that offers HD carry these two channels... except for Comcast.

Definately two of my favorites...

~Alan

Entertainment channels like USA and History are all good. No one needs to see CNN and Fox Business news in HD. Again, they are eating up precious bandwidth for these cheapo channels. Where is SciFi, or HDNet?

Just wait until Comcast offers "The Weather Channel HD" (launching on DirecTV this week)! ;)

~Alan

Just wait until Comcast offers "The Weather Channel HD" (launching on DirecTV this week)! ;)

~Alan

Alan,

You should say : (launching on DirecTV this week) MAYBE.

Alan,

You should say : (launching on DirecTV this week) MAYBE.

LOL!!! True... but I feel pretty good about the channels being available at 6:00 A.M. tomorrow...

BTW, have you been checking out 9300 and 9301?

~Alan

LOL!!! True... but I feel pretty good about the channels being available at 6:00 A.M. tomorrow...

BTW, have you been checking out 9300 and 9301?

~Alan


Yes.
On and Off, Blank screen, with signal (Disc HD,..), Searching for signal....
All the symptomps.

I will be on it at 06:00am.

Just wait until Comcast offers "The Weather Channel HD" (launching on DirecTV this week)! ;)

~Alan


I expect to see the Shopping Channels in HD any day now, and certainly before we see SciFi, USA, FX, or CW in HD.

I expect to see the Shopping Channels in HD any day now, and certainly before we see SciFi, USA, FX, or CW in HD.

Maybe Comcast is already adding some of the channels that the majority of viewers are interested in:

"Recent consumer research suggests that there is an increasing demand for lifestyle programming in the HD format. The latest Frank N. Magid & Associates study of the digital and high-def marketplace found that the majority of adults 25-54 surveyed ranked HGTV HD and Food Network HD in their top five “would watch” list of HD channels."

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003646686

Maybe Comcast is already adding some of the channels that the majority of viewers are interested in:

"Recent consumer research suggests that there is an increasing demand for lifestyle programming in the HD format. The latest Frank N. Magid & Associates study of the digital and high-def marketplace found that the majority of adults 25-54 surveyed ranked HGTV HD and Food Network HD in their top five “would watch” list of HD channels."

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003646686


But then again, don't know about all of you here. I never accept taking any surveys and especially this one. If I didn those channel would not be my choices.
It should be based on Viewers Rating, Not by Surveys.

But then again, don't know about all of you here. I never accept taking any surveys and especially this one. If I didn those channel would not be my choices.
It should be based on Viewers Rating, Not by Surveys.

I would never take that survey is a common complaint when the survey does not support someone's position. There is plenty of evidence that if a large enough sample is approached, the ratio of people responding will match the general population +-. It is tough to use viewer ratings to determine what you "would" watch. There are some analog channels that are so bad over cable that I won't watch them. I might if I could get a good HD picture.

Haven't checked in for a while.
Has DirecTV fixed their new HD lineup yet? Didn't see anything like a list on the website. Or cost, either....?
I currently have the 'original' HD package and the older disc/receiver, any word on costs for upgrading? The site said free dish, no mention of cost of receiver/package I could see.

If anyone can post a link or info, much appreciated.

I would never take that survey is a common complaint when the survey does not support someone's position. There is plenty of evidence that if a large enough sample is approached, the ratio of people responding will match the general population +-. It is tough to use viewer ratings to determine what you "would" watch. There are some analog channels that are so bad over cable that I won't watch them. I might if I could get a good HD picture.

It is also known that how a question is posed makes a big difference in the response, not to mention the background of the respondent (most marketing polls are conducted among the upper half of the income group). Anyway, I think the answers just show people with HD displays are starved for HD programming. It also shows that most people with HD displays are more affluent and are more likely to be into costly hobbies like golf, fancy cuisine, etc. Us poor folks just want to see good entertainment in HD, while the rich want to hog all the HD for themselves and their fru fru hobbies. :p

But the bottom line is Comcast wants to be able to claim lots of HD programming, and those HD hobby shows are cheap, even if only a limited number of the total customer base really wants them (who the hell wants to see business news in HD???).

Haven't checked in for a while.
Has DirecTV fixed their new HD lineup yet? Didn't see anything like a list on the website. Or cost, either....?
I currently have the 'original' HD package and the older disc/receiver, any word on costs for upgrading? The site said free dish, no mention of cost of receiver/package I could see.

If anyone can post a link or info, much appreciated.


They just added 21 channels on Wednesday and have more planned for later in October. You can get the info on the below link. I believe the Dish is free. If you have a model HR20/HR21 or H20/H21 receiver all you need is a B Band Converter which I assume is free. Otherwise you'll need to call DTV for the new boxes which come with them. I have the new HD PVR and LOVE it.


http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/global/contentPageNR.jsp?assetId=P4360052

For those of you that have Direct TV and use an OTA to get your locals in Hi-Def what are you using? I live in Hahira GA. It's just north of Valdosta GA. I'm only interested in getting the Hidef channels since DTV aalready gives me the non hidef locals. This is what I get from Antennaweb:

DTV Antenna
Type Call Sign Channel Network City State Live
Date Compass
Orientation Miles
From Frequency
Assignment
yellow - uhf WSWG 44 CBS VALDOSTA GA 3° 12.7 44
lt green - uhf W25CP 25 TBN VALDOSTA GA 196° 8.8 25
lt green - vhf WCTV 6 CBS THOMASVILLE GA 242° 40.7 6
* red - uhf WCTV-DT 6.1 CBS THOMASVILLE GA 242° 40.7 46
blue - vhf WMYG-LP 13 MNT VALDOSTA GA 196° 8.8 13
blue - uhf WTLH 49 FOX BAINBRIDGE GA 244° 41.9 49
blue - uhf WTWC 40 NBC TALLAHASSEE FL 244° 41.9 40
* blue - vhf WTWC-DT 40.1 NBC TALLAHASSEE FL 244° 41.9 2
blue - uhf WTXL 27 ABC TALLAHASSEE FL 243° 42.2 27
blue - uhf WBVJ-LP 35 FOX VALDOSTA GA 166° 10.6 35
blue - uhf WABW 14 PBS PELHAM GA 287° 45.0 14
blue - vhf WALB 10 NBC ALBANY GA 313° 37.9 10
* blue - vhf WABW-DT 5 PBS PELHAM GA 07-08 242° 40.7 5
* blue - uhf WSWG-DT 44.1 CBS VALDOSTA GA 3° 12.7 43
blue - uhf WFXL 31 FOX ALBANY GA 313° 37.8 31
blue - vhf WXGA 8 PBS WAYCROSS GA 75° 49.4 8
* violet - uhf WFXU-DT 57.1 CW LIVE OAK FL FCC Ext 149° 36.7 48
* violet - uhf WTLH-DT 50.1 FOX Bainbridge GA 244° 41.9 50


Like I said, I'm only interested in the HiDef programming and I would like to plug this into my existing Direct Tv HD PVR.

I bought a Philips MANT940 and can pcikup pbs by just laying it on the floor. Just wanted to know if I can do anything with it before I go through the trouble of mounting it outside?? lol

Haven't checked in for a while.
Has DirecTV fixed their new HD lineup yet? Didn't see anything like a list on the website. Or cost, either....?
I currently have the 'original' HD package and the older disc/receiver, any word on costs for upgrading? The site said free dish, no mention of cost of receiver/package I could see.

If anyone can post a link or info, much appreciated.

For more D* Programming, their new HD equipments as well as user feedbacks on them, see the below forums:
http://www.dbstalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=82

As for cost of upgrading, it varies depending your length of having service with D*. Check this forum for some deals and how to get them.
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/

I bought a Philips MANT940 and can pcikup pbs by just laying it on the floor. Just wanted to know if I can do anything with it before I go through the trouble of mounting it outside?? lol
PBS? You mean analog or digital? The only digital PBS I ever picked up was WFSU late at night once every blue moon.

PBS? You mean analog or digital? The only digital PBS I ever picked up was WFSU late at night once every blue moon.

I can pickup about 6 different PBS stations. 4 of them are analogue, 2 are digital.

Not positive they are coming out of Tallahassee. I live in Hahira Georgia so they could be coming from somewhere else??

Any new word on when the Tivo upgrade for the Comcast digi boxes should be rolling out? It's taking soooooo long...

It also shows that most people with HD displays are more affluent and are more likely to be into costly hobbies like golf, fancy cuisine, etc. Us poor folks just want to see good entertainment in HD, while the rich want to hog all the HD for themselves and their fru fru hobbies. :p

Ridiculous statement.

Ridiculous statement.

Agree. I don't have any money and love playing and watching golf yet could care less for CW-HD. Give me some numbers dsmith and then maybe I'll have to believe ya. ;)

By the way...I thought I heard something about TBS HD by baseball playoffs for Comcast? Is that true or not?

Agree.

By the way...I thought I heard something about TBS HD by baseball playoffs for Comcast? Is that true or not?

TBS HD has already been added to some Comcast systems as of yesterday. Most said they had no announcement, it just showed up. No word on if or when it will be added here.

Ridiculous statement.

Tex, I knew that would have you chewing your shorts. :D

As of friday it seems that my EspnHD is gone. Only Espn 1&2 Hd are giving me "This channel should be available shortly". The channel never appears.

I tried calling comcast and they said I need someone to come out and fix my signal. Problem is no one is available till the end of this week and I need to see MNF in HD.

Is there a way that I can go into the setup menu of this DVR box? I've seen a comcast repair guy go into some type of setup repair menu to reset the box but did not know how he got into it.

TBS HD has already been added to some Comcast systems as of yesterday. Most said they had no announcement, it just showed up. No word on if or when it will be added here.

Thanks...I was hoping it would be up for the baseball playoffs...like the game tonight...but it's not looking so good. Oh well.

As of friday it seems that my EspnHD is gone. Only Espn 1&2 Hd are giving me "This channel should be available shortly". The channel never appears.

I tried calling comcast and they said I need someone to come out and fix my signal. Problem is no one is available till the end of this week and I need to see MNF in HD.

Is there a way that I can go into the setup menu of this DVR box? I've seen a comcast repair guy go into some type of setup repair menu to reset the box but did not know how he got into it.

When I got my first box I had the same problem. I actually had to go and get a new one b/c that box was messed up. Did they check the signal that was being sent to your box? Sometimes calling again will get you in touch with someone who actually knows what they're doing. It's kind of a crap-shoot. I'd try calling again and seeing if they can figure it out over the phone. I wouldn't want to watch NE vs. Cin in SD either!

WTLH hasn't been in HD on Comcast or OTA tonight.

WTLH hasn't been in HD on Comcast or OTA tonight.
It hasn't been HD (at least OTA, which is how I watch here in Valdosta) the whole past weekend.

I just bought a house in Wakulla County in the Songbird subdivision. I'm planning on finally ditching Comcast and getting Direct TV. Does anyone know how the OTA signals are in that area? Will I be able to get all of the Tallahassee local stations in HD? Also, what OTA antenna do you recommend?

Thanks for the help!

Jason

I just bought a house in Wakulla County in the Songbird subdivision. I'm planning on finally ditching Comcast and getting Direct TV. Does anyone know how the OTA signals are in that area? Will I be able to get all of the Tallahassee local stations in HD? Also, what OTA antenna do you recommend?

Thanks for the help!

Jason
I can answer the basic stuff:

Digital OTA:
CBS on channel 46, ABC on 22, FOX on 50, NBC on 2, PBS on 32, and CW. More details (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10809803#post10809803)

Sites like antennaweb.org or tvfool.com can help you with locations of transmitters from you and basic antenna recommendations.

I don't have DirecTV or can give exact recommendations for your location but there should be someone here who can do this. Hope this helps.

It's good to see that while FOX 49 can't seem to broadcast in HD, they can put their own FOX 49 logo right next to the national FOX logo on their HD channel.

Comcast just added TBS HD (channel 421) and CNN HD (channel 423)!

Since it's been a big topic lately... just thought I'd bring up the fact that DirecTV added some more new HD channels this morning:

USA-HD
Sci-Fi HD
Bravo-HD
HBO-HD West
Cinemax-HD
Cinemax-HD West

Several RSNs.

:)

~Alan

Comcast just added TBS HD (channel 421) and CNN HD (channel 423)!

That's wonderful...thanks Morph. Just in time for baseball today!! Sweet. I should have figured TBS would stretch out their SD signal like TNT...that stinks but oh well...still an extra HD channel. CNN HD is lookin pretty nice (even though I don't watch news...but I'm not going to bash it like some people :rolleyes:)

It's good to see that while FOX 49 can't seem to broadcast in HD, they can put their own FOX 49 logo right next to the national FOX logo on their HD channel.



Ughhh Whose fault is this? Fox or Comcast?

My EspnHD is still out. Why oh why cant comcast have some competition in this city so they can stay on top of things?

David, you may need to replace your comcast box. They should replace it without any hassles if it is not working. When I was on Comcast and the box would go bad I would just have to go to their center and swap it out.

Ughhh Whose fault is this? Fox or Comcast?

My EspnHD is still out. Why oh why cant comcast have some competition in this city so they can stay on top of things?

As for FOX not being in HD, I would have to assume it's WTLH's fault since neither the OTA feed nor the HD channel on Comcast are in high def.

My Comcast box has crapped out before and usually if you drive over to their office, they're pretty good about swapping it out right there for you.

Why oh why cant comcast have some competition in this city so they can stay on top of things?

I would kill to have Comcast in Valdosta :p At least you can't count your HD channels on your fingers..

Why is it every week I see new channels being added for everyone yet Mediacom hasn't added a new HD channel since November..

Since it's been a big topic lately... just thought I'd bring up the fact that DirecTV added some more new HD channels this morning:

USA-HD
Sci-Fi HD
Bravo-HD
HBO-HD West
Cinemax-HD
Cinemax-HD West

Several RSNs.

:)

~Alan

I've been dying for the Sci-Fi channel in HD forever because I really enjoy BSG and that Eureka show. It's so painful to watch in analog on a 65" screen. I want to stab my eyes out. Hopefully it won't take long for Comcast to pick them up. Oh, wait....

It's good to see that while FOX 49 can't seem to broadcast in HD, they can put their own FOX 49 logo right next to the national FOX logo on their HD channel.


Don't you just love logo bugs. Also there is some good news for you Dtv people. (local HD)

Also there is some good news for you Dtv people. (local HD)

I may not be in Tallahassee, but do tell WTLHFOXHD?

Good to see you again, BTW! :)

~Alan

Comcast just added TBS HD (channel 421) and CNN HD (channel 423)!

You lucky Comcast subscribers! Gosh our Valdosta Mediacom added ABC-HD last night. At this rate we are only 50% behind Comcast. I also noticed that the 5.1 sound on ABC is actually 2.0 or something, only left and right. Hey what the heck can't have everything. :rolleyes:

I may not be in Tallahassee, but do tell WTLHFOXHD?

Good to see you again, BTW! :)

~Alan

DTV is installing there local HD reception equipment for Tallahassee / Thomasville market this week.

There's a message on Comcast boxes that NFL-HD and few other digital channels will be added soon.
However, you have to have the sports tier to get NFL-HD.

Anyone else having issues with Food HD and HGTV HD (414/415)? They've been frozen since last night on Comcast...

Anyone else having issues with Food HD and HGTV HD (414/415)? They've been frozen since last night on Comcast...

I bet dsmith has something to do with it. :D

I bet dsmith has something to do with it. :D

I did some back reading... lol.

In all seriousness though, their solution is to send me a tech... on Monday. Unless both of my boxes fried something at the exact same time, I have trouble believing that the tech will do much.

In all seriousness though, their solution is to send me a tech... on Monday. Unless both of my boxes fried something at the exact same time, I have trouble believing that the tech will do much.

I don't know what the tech can do. Both channels were out at my house as well. I checked this morning and HGTV was working, but by the time I had checked out SportsCenter and got ready to leave it was not working again. Please post after the service call and let us know what he found.

I don't know what the tech can do. Both channels were out at my house as well. I checked this morning and HGTV was working, but by the time I had checked out SportsCenter and got ready to leave it was not working again. Please post after the service call and let us know what he found.

Thanks Tex, I was just trying to confirm that others were having the problem. Now if I could the NHL preview fixed, after they come back, that would be great.

BTW Dsmith... I watch Food HD a LOT, I like to cook, and frankly everything looks better in HD. ;)

DTV is installing there local HD reception equipment for Tallahassee / Thomasville market this week.

So... any idea when the locals in HD will actually be available on DTV?

I bet dsmith has something to do with it. :D

I LOLed pretty bad after reading this! Poor dsmith and his negative views on "hobby" channels and getting ripped for it. ;)

I wasn't so sure upgrading to the digital package was worth it a year ago when there was only a few extra HD channels (ESPN, etc). Now it is totally worth it! HD galore! Thanks Comcast for FINALLY coming around. (don't worry, I still have my gripes with the company...but at least they're keeping competitive with the HD).

Oh joy... Nat'l Geo is out now too. :p

Oh joy... Nat'l Geo is out now too. :p
same here; Nat'l Geo, Food-HD, and HGTV-HD are out!

Call them and let them know please... they keep telling me there's no reported issues... that a tech will come Monday. Blah.

So... any idea when the locals in HD will actually be available on DTV?


Install crews don't get any information on turn-up dates for public so they are no help. The fiber back haul circuits are to be installed by the end of the month. If they go by the same time line as the analog they will burn in for at least a month then go public.

413-415 back on... I canceled the appointment... I'll deal with the 771 issue if I order the MLB Package next season... depending on how the Mets make moves in the offseason. ;-)

I called Comcast to inquire about adding additional HD channels. The CSR said "Comcast have ALL available HD channels and they will add more when they become available from networks" :p
I proceeded to point out that was simply not true, and asked about specific active HD channels we don't have. She got agitated and insisted those channels are just rumors and don't exist and kept saying "Comcast will add them when they become available". Then I tried to explain to her that I was just watching those channels from D* at a friend's house! I politely asked if I can speak to somebody else, so she put me on hold and I listened to the nice music for half an hour, then hung up :p
I know, I try to avoid talking to CSRs and I was just killing time waiting for my wife to get ready.
But seriously, how hard is it to train people and have knowledgeable CSRs?

So is Fox back on in HD yet for Comcast?

Valdosta Mediacom viewers:

In case you don't read the Albany, GA thread, WTXL is finally here for those without having to sell your limbs for an antenna w/preamp to pick up the weak signal. :p I'm watching via unencrypted QAM thus I don't have an actual channel number.

Also, is there a known timetable for the digital FOX feed returning to WTLH-DT? Picking up WFXL-DT via rabbit-ears back in the den is just aching me. :D

I will watch the 'toons tomorrow morning and check if it has (mysteriously) returned.

On Mediacom Valdosta WTXL is 827.

I bet dsmith has something to do with it. :D

Yes (he said, laughing wildly while rolling his hands in glee) I am the one! I have been jamming those goofy HD channels with my secret HD jammer machine! I am holding them hostage until Comcast adds SciFi, USA, FX, BBC, and CW in glorious HD! :D

OK ABC, where is our Seminole games HD feed?
ESPN is providing the feed and it is in HD.

Called the station, they said it wont be in HD, I replied, "I'll find another show to watch in HD".

Yes (he said, laughing wildly while rolling his hands in glee) I am the one! I have been jamming those goofy HD channels with my secret HD jammer machine! I am holding them hostage until Comcast adds SciFi, USA, FX, BBC, and CW in glorious HD! :D

I hope it works. :)

OK ABC, where is our Seminole games HD feed?
ESPN is providing the feed and it is in HD.

It doesn't seem like today's game is being produced in HD. On Warchant.com people all over the country are saying they aren't getting the game in high def.

Why are none of todays NFL games on CBS or FOX in HD?

I'm getting sick of paying for crap that I'm not getting.

Why are none of todays NFL games on CBS or FOX in HD?

I'm getting sick of paying for crap that I'm not getting.


The Jacksonville games are almost never in HD on CBS. As for the Fox games not being in HD, WTHL hasn't been in HD for a couple of weekends now. I don't know what their deal is. Does anyone know what is going on there?

When DTV supports the Tallahassee/Thomasville locals in HD will that include people living in Crawfordville? I haven't moved into my house yet, but I'm pretty sure we get the Tallahassee locals.

Why are none of todays NFL games on CBS or FOX in HD?

I'm getting sick of paying for crap that I'm not getting.

CBS doesn't produce every game in high def and usually the Jags never get the HD treatment. FOX does produce every NFL game in high definition but that all hinges on the ability of the local affiliate to actually transmit it...

Was anyone's cable out yesterday? I missed the entire LSU/Florida game last night because the cable was out in my area(by the stadium at FSU)

Im am so tired of Comcast. This is the third weekend in a row I am missing football because of something with them.

Why isnt there another option for cable in Tallahassee? I feel that Comcast needs the competition to produce better service for their customers. Im really going to start looking into my options for the Dish

Yup, cable, internet, phone out all day yesterday.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Roofus
Why are none of todays NFL games on CBS or FOX in HD?

I'm getting sick of paying for crap that I'm not getting.

CBS doesn't produce every game in high def and usually the Jags never get the HD treatment. FOX does produce every NFL game in high definition but that all hinges on the ability of the local affiliate to actually transmit it...


Ok a piece of FOX gear was acting up again. Rebooted it and now the game is HD (I know only the 4th Q.) If you have complaints about the HD send them to wtlhhdproblems@fox49.com that will forward to me.

CBS doesn't produce every game in high def and usually the Jags never get the HD treatment. FOX does produce every NFL game in high definition but that all hinges on the ability of the local affiliate to actually transmit it...

However, FOX only has the ability to broadcast six games with extra games being SD widescreen. FOX's SD totally beats CBS' SD.

BTW, the FOX digital feed on WTLH is back OTA.

EDIT: Beaten to the punch by WTLHFOXHD...Thanks for keeping us in the know. :)

Tallahassee's HD situation is so bad that I pay for Comcast, but I don't have it hooked up.
I just download the episodes I want to watch from the net. I figure this way everybody wins. Comcast gets their $120/month, and I get to watch HDTV, unlike most of their customers in TLH.

I am holding them hostage until Comcast adds SciFi, USA, FX, BBC, and CW in glorious HD! :D

I don't watch anything on FX (other than the occasional KOTH or MwC rerun), so I can't comment on that, but I do want to comment on the others.

As I have stated here before, Sci-Fi, USA and the CW was on my list for most wanted HD channels (two down, one to go!), but I'm also interested in FOOD-HD and HGTV-HD (Food, especially) and a couple of the other HD channels coming soon... but I do have a few comments I want to make:

USA-HD: Between TNT-HD and USA-HD, "Law & Order" fans are IN LUCK!! I'm not one of them, but luckily there is other stuff on the channel as well. USA-HD started Wednesday morning on DirecTV (the only carrier so far), and by Wednesday afternoon was broadcasting "The Fast & The Furious" in FANTASTIC HD quality (though sadly, they cropped it to fill the screen instead of presenting it OAR)... and DD5.1. "Monk" is shown in HD, and USA offered the reruns of "Life", "Journeyman", "Bionic Woman", "Chuck" and the Season Premiere of "Friday Night Lights" in HD... and at least some of these which I was able to compare to OTA, looked better on USA-HD than OTA (and my NBC affiliate doesn't multi-cast). "House" reruns are also aired in HD, but "Psych" reruns are not... and I'm interested to see whether "The 4400" will be tonight (or tomorrow... whenever the rerun comes on). If they're not, hopefully new episodes will be ("Psych" will be returning... not sure about "The 4400").

The CW: I'm personally hoping that whenever Albany, GA gets HD-LIL, DirecTV will provide a "regional" CW HD channel like they do a "regional" CW SD channel. I've been putting off watching some CW shows since they're in SD only...

SciFi-HD: Ever since I got into HD, the most asked about channel going HD, has now gone HD... and I'm LOVING IT!! Sci-Fi HD has it's issues... SG1 reruns are upconverts, "Tru Calling" reruns are upconverts, "Enterprise" episodes should be upconverts, "Doctor Who" episodes are upconverts (though that's not a Sci-Fi issue, Doctor Who" episodes are filmed in SD), as are several series. I'm not sure about "Eureka", but "Bionic Woman" repeats are HD, "Flash Gordon" episodes are HD, and "Stargate Atlantis" are HD.

I have seen "Stargate Atlantis" in HD before since Universal airs repeats, but unlike UniversalHD's crappy PQ on DirecTV compared to SciFi-HD's fantastic PQ on DirecTV, Sci-Fi-HD (as well as USA) offers DD5.1 and UniversalHD does not, so a much better viewing experience than the reruns. The PQ was fantastic... as Atlantis seemed to... come alive... so to speak!

BBC: I would love to have some of the BBC channels here in America, SD and HD, but due to copyright laws, that will probably never happen, so we're stuck with BBC America. The BBC has announced plans for an American HD channel, but I haven't heard an update in a while. Sadly, I'm not sure how good the channel will be for me now... as most of the shows I watch on BBC America are SD only ("Doctor Who" for one), and "Torchwood" could only be presented in SD due to HDNet owning the HD broadcast rights to it in America (HDNet also owns the HD broadcasts rights to "Enterprise" and "Smallville" as well as others). Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that HDNet has the broadcast rights to "Torchwood" as the show has THE MOST AMAZING PQ I've ever seen (even on HDNet's bad PQ on DirecTV). Looking forward to tonight's "Cyberwoman" episode... but I'm going off topic. It would be worth it to get Series Two of "Robin Hood" in HD, but it will probably be next year before it becomes available here in America, so hopefully they'll have a channel up by then...

Some other quick notes:

A&E-HD: I like having reruns of CSI: Miami in HD, but their 720p broadcasts and lack of DD5.1 lack the experience of CBS's broadcasts. You WCTV-DT viewers might not know this, but the CSI shows are KILLER in DD5.1 surround.
Animal Planet-HD: I love animals, but not really my cup of tea for programming...
Big Ten Network-HD: I don't watch a lot of sports, but I have to give credit to this channel for it's variety. I've seen not only Football, but women's Soccer, Field Hockey, and Volleyball.
BravoHD: Reruns of "Chuck", "Bionic Woman", and "Journeyman" are the only HD I've seen on this channel. Heck, the marathon of "Friday Night Lights" on Saturday was upconverted SD.
CNN-HD: I don't really watch any national news channel... if I want to know whether Britney forgot her underwear, I need to shoot myself...
Discovery Channel HD: It's nice to have, but I don't watch the channel much. Perhaps some more next Summer.
Golf/Versus: I don't watch sports much, so nothing really to say.
History-HD: I used to watch "Digging For The Truth" on the SD channel, but after I found out that Josh Bernstein is no longer on the show, I haven't tuned in to the new episodes. Maybe they will air some repeats I haven't seen before in HD...
MHD: Repeats a lot, but AWESOME!!
NFL-HD: I don't watch a lot of sports, so nothing really to say.
Smithsonian-HD: I really haven't watched this channel much... I haven't really seen much to interested me. I did watch part of a car show once...
TBS-HD: They should have more HD programming soon, but as of now, MLB is about the only true HD on there, and everything else is STRETCH-O-VISION. Watch J-Lo's butt get bigger on TBS-HD!! ;)
Discovery Science Channel-HD: I might watch some programming in the Summer.
The Weather Channel HD: Their new shows have some great PQ, and are offering more HD programming than TBS-HD or Bravo-HD.
TLC-HD: I've watched a few programs on here, might watch some more during the Summer.

Cartoon Network-HD: I'm VERY interested...
FOOD Network HD: I can dig it... I'm interested in seeing "Unwrapped"...
HGTV-HD: I can dig it...
MGM-HD: Definately a channel I'm looking forward to...
Spike-HD: Maybe they will do CSI reruns right...
ABC Family-HD: "Kyle XY" in HD? I can dig it...

I'm probably going to get kicked out of the "guy club" for saying this, but I wish I could watch "Blood Ties" (returning Friday night) in HD on Lifetime... but no love so far. Lifetime Movie Network HD has been around for a while, so it probably won't be long for Lifetime-HD to come out, but most likely after BT goes off.

Turner Classic Movies in HD would be great, but if they stretch their programming not in HD ala TBS and TNT, a lot of the interest would go away... but since TCM has a OAR policy, maybe they will get it right.

Fox Movie Channel and American Movie Classics would be nice to have in HD as well... hopefully soon.

Boy... that was a long post...

~Alan

Tallahassee's HD situation is so bad that I pay for Comcast, but I don't have it hooked up.
I just download the episodes I want to watch from the net. I figure this way everybody wins. Comcast gets their $120/month, and I get to watch HDTV, unlike most of their customers in TLH.

I only have basic and I usually have no problem getting the locals HD via QAM.

JRCStudios and WTLHFOX HD any word on DTV HD locals.

Lovely... NBC HD with no vocal tracks this evening...

Lovely... NBC HD with no vocal tracks this evening...


Yeah and me too. It really pisses me off. No HD Heroes.

Pics jumping all over the place....no cable Saturday...are they trying to make it where the cable sucks during my favorite shows/sports?

Yeah and me too. It really pisses me off. No HD Heroes.

Something a Nole and Gator can agree on. lol.

Pics jumping all over the place....no cable Saturday...are they trying to make it where the cable sucks during my favorite shows/sports?



Is your OTA NBC having vocal track issues?

Is your OTA NBC having vocal track issues?

Yes, only background music no dialogue at all.

Sound issue is crackling as pic jumps....comcast tech support worthless...so much for watching MNF or Heroes tonight....

I only have basic and I usually have no problem getting the locals HD via QAM.

Just curious, did Heroes have a voice track for you tonight? :)

Just curious, did Heroes have a voice track for you tonight? :)

I didn't have it via the cable box or QAM.

WTWC was apparently putting the left and right channels from NBC surround up as stereo. Unfortunately, that kills the center channel where the dialog resides. I noticed it when I tried to watch the nightly news last night. Could not watch anything at all during prime time. I left multiple messages on their damn answering machine. No people were about.

Do we really deserve to be treated like a podunk town by the network affiliates and Comcast?????????

guys, have limited basic and am receiving abc + nbc in HD via the QAM tuner. They are channels 85-1 and 85-2. But what about CBS and Fox? I can't seem to get these via the QAM tuner or if I am I'm not sure what channel they are? Any ideas guys?

WTWC was apparently putting the left and right channels from NBC surround up as stereo. Unfortunately, that kills the center channel where the dialog resides. I noticed it when I tried to watch the nightly news last night. Could not watch anything at all during prime time. I left multiple messages on their damn answering machine. No people were about.

Do we really deserve to be treated like a podunk town by the network affiliates and Comcast?????????

That is unbelievably stupid! You don't need an engineering degree to know that won't work! And what really really gets my grits is that no one at the local stations ever monitor their HD broadcasts! AFAIK that is true of all the local stations. They don't find out until they get calls the next day that they screwed up and pissed off their viewers. From now on all my most important shows will be double recorded, the HD on my Comcast HDDVR and the analog version on my Panasonic EH55, which at least has a useable stereo soundtrack with dialogue! Last night I realized the dialogue problem on Heroes (which was being recorded while I watched something else) about 40 minutes in, and I immediately started up the EH55. Then I watched the HD version doing my best to read lips (fortunately it has a bit of subtitles) and when I got to the analog recording I tried to sync its audio up while watching the HD. It was tricky but I managed to get it pretty close. But what a PITA!!!!! Someone at WTWC needs to get fired over this, IMO!

Just curious, did Heroes have a voice track for you tonight? :)

Sorry, missed last night's episode...:(

guys, have limited basic and am receiving abc + nbc in HD via the QAM tuner. They are channels 85-1 and 85-2. But what about CBS and Fox? I can't seem to get these via the QAM tuner or if I am I'm not sure what channel they are? Any ideas guys?


That's an interesting situation for me... on my 2 Samsung HDTVs, Ch. 6 CBS is 86-1. On my Olevia HDTV, Ch. 6 is 86.5.
On all 3, Ch. 49 Fox is 87-1.
I'm not enough of a HD tech geek to know why CBS is on the 2 separate digital channels for different TV brands for me...

I just lost all my local OTA's except WTWC on my Dish 622. They all work on my TV tuner.

I just lost all my local OTA's except WTWC on my Dish 622. They all work on my TV tuner.
I'm not home to see if I can pick up the other OTA signals through my 622, but a couple of weeks ago I also lost all OTA's except WTWC on my DISH 622. I called Dish CSR who tried some things which did not resolve the issue, so they shipped me a new 622. Since you are getting OTA through another tuner (my other receiver was getting the signals) you may need to call them and have them send a new receiver.

Robert

I just lost all my local OTA's except WTWC on my Dish 622. They all work on my TV tuner.
Trek, mine were coming in fine last night. Check with the Dish CSR for possible replacement receiver

WTWC was apparently putting the left and right channels from NBC surround up as stereo. Unfortunately, that kills the center channel where the dialog resides. I noticed it when I tried to watch the nightly news last night. Could not watch anything at all during prime time. I left multiple messages on their damn answering machine. No people were about.

Do we really deserve to be treated like a podunk town by the network affiliates and Comcast?????????

This morning Stever Sheridan, the engineer at WTWC (NBC) called me back and said he was still trying to figure out what happened. He thinks the one man on duty that night failed to manually switch the audio from 2.0 to 5.1 when switching video from SD to HD. I gave him a pretty hard time but Steve was a really nice guy and was patient in explaining all the issues they have to deal with, much of it from the networks. But he agreed with me this was apparently a local human error problem and the guy who goofed will be given some management direction, so to speak. I repeated my biggest complaint is that they (and all the other stations) do not do a good job of monitoring their signal, or it would have been caught right away, instead of continuing through two hours of prime time programming. I also invited him to this forum, so maybe we will hear from him on this and other issues if he has time.

I just lost all my local OTA's except WTWC on my Dish 622. They all work on my TV tuner.

I called a Dish tech and they were unable to help me. I did solve my problem however. Somehow under the HDTV Setup the Analog Type got switched from Offair to Cable. I switched it back and it works fine now. I guess I got WTWC because channel 2 is the same on cable an off air?

Thanks guys for getting on this thing with the local NBC missing sound. What was there excuse again last night? I wonder how many of their surveys that show the HD audience is a tiny demographic are taken when we are forced to watch non-HD programming due to the local station's incompetence.

I'm about ready to give up on TV altogether and just buy the DVD's at the end of the season. The other thing I've considered is calling their advertisers and telling them I'm changing the channel now because it is unwatchable and they might want to do the same thing.

Thanks guys for getting on this thing with the local NBC missing sound. What was there excuse again last night? I wonder how many of their surveys that show the HD audience is a tiny demographic are taken when we are forced to watch non-HD programming due to the local station's incompetence.

I'm about ready to give up on TV altogether and just buy the DVD's at the end of the season. The other thing I've considered is calling their advertisers and telling them I'm changing the channel now because it is unwatchable and they might want to do the same thing.

I don't watch NBC on Tuesday nights - did they do it again?

I only watch The Unit on CBS on Tues. I checked in and it seemed like it wasn't working. But, last night it was pretty good and even seemed to be in sync. This proves that they ARE CAPABLE of pulling it off. They just need a little more discipline around there. If they want me to post e-mail addresses for their advertisers they can keep ripping us (and them) off.

If I live in Wakulla do I need a uni-directional VHF/UHF antenna to get all the Tallahassee local stations, a multi-directional UHF or a VHF antenna and a UHF antenna?

It looks like I need a VHF antenna since WTWC is on the low end of VHF. I know that most VHF antennas can also get the high end UHF stations, but I'm afraid since it is uni-directional I may not be able to get all of them. I'd prefer to not have to get two antennas, especially since it looks like we may be able to get HD locals through the dish soon.

I'm kind of leaning towards this antenna since I'm 40 miles away from the towers and it's going in the attic: http://www.antennasdirect.com/V21_vhf_antenna.html. I could probably get away with the high gain instead of the ultra-high gain antenna, but for an extra $20, I'd rather be safe than sorry. I'm just worried that the towers may not be clustered enough to get all of them with the uni-directional antenna, but I know very little about this whole thing and would greatly appreciate any advice. Thanks!

do you have to put it in the attic? Thats going to be tough.

do you have to put it in the attic? Thats going to be tough.

I guess it doesn't have to be. According to Antenna Direct putting the antenna in the attic decreases its ability by 10-15 miles. I thought if I went with the ultra-high gain antenna that would negate the fact it is in the attic. I want the antenna to be as discreet as possible, but if it doesn't work in the attic I can just as easily take that antenna and put it outside. My real question is whether I need a VHF or UHF antenna.

Just call them. They will look at the antennaweb.org website and help you pick the best one. They are really good to talk to.

I just spoke with them. Talk about a pain in the behind. I probably need 2 antennas since WTWC is on the low end of VHF and a VHF antenna may have difficulty picking up the UHF channels since I am more than 30 miles from the towers.

I called the Radio Shack in Wakulla and the person I spoke with claimed that they install dishes with the slim line antenna and they get great reception. I'm not 100% sure we were talking about the same thing though.

I would love nothing more than to stop giving Comcast my money, but I don't see how I can justify spending that much for 2 antennas, especially taking into consideration the locals may be available through the dish in a few months time. It looks like it is Comcast for me until I can get the locals in HD through the dish.

Thanks for your help! At least I better understand how OTA antenna's work now :)

I just spoke with them. Talk about a pain in the behind. I probably need 2 antennas since WTWC is on the low end of VHF and a VHF antenna may have difficulty picking up the UHF channels since I am more than 30 miles from the towers.

:)

This may or may not help. I live in Valdosta approx 40mi from both Metcalf and Doerun. I have a Channel Master 3018 in my attic (Purchased at Lowes) aimed at Doerun (Albany). I get all current Network DT stations from both Tally and Albany except that lousy 8.7kw ABC-dt station. BTW I also might have been your neighbor. My father (back in the 60's) won a lot in your county in a poker game . I inherited it. Sold it when I discovered you need a minimum of 2 lots in that particular S/D to get a building permit. ;)

Jmb04law,
Try these people (phone or online) http://www.solidsignal.com/.

Comcast added NFL-HD (Channel 406) today. You have to get the sport pack to get it though.

Did anyone else have a problem with the audio for ABC on Comcast last night? It seemed to me that they were duplicating the WTWC problem from a few weeks ago, where the audio track was flipped backwards.

I had to download the programs to be able to watch them. What is the point of having legitimate channels for the shows when the illegitimate channels are the only ones that consistently work?

Is anyone else having a problem with their Dish 622 locking on WTXL? I can get it over my TV tuner but not my 622.

Is anyone else having a problem with their Dish 622 locking on WTXL? I can get it over my TV tuner but not my 622.
Neither my 622 nor my 211 in the bedroom would lock on it last night although it showed a signal of 76-80. No problems locking on the other OTA stations. I am glad to see it is not just me as I thought maybe something was wrong with my setup.

Robert

My 622 is picking up WTXL again.

Is the Georgia-Florida game not being broadcast in 5.1 because CBS isn't doing it for this game or did somebody at WCTV mess something up?

Is the Georgia-Florida game not being broadcast in 5.1 because CBS isn't doing it for this game or did somebody at WCTV mess something up?

Has WCTV ever started broadcasted 5.1 sound? I've read through many portions of this thread and many people have said that WCTV only does 2.0.

The last time I had my Voom HD receiver on WCTV several months ago, there was only 2.0. This is the latest about this matter:

[WRBL-DT] offer 5.1, WCTV-DT does not...

From this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11652661#post11652661).

Is the Georgia-Florida game not being broadcast in 5.1 because CBS isn't doing it for this game or did somebody at WCTV mess something up?

WCTV will not use DD 5.1 untill it will add to there ad sales?! :mad:

WCTV will not use DD 5.1 untill it will add to there ad sales?! :mad:

Which means they will never do anything but 2.0.

Which means they will never do anything but 2.0.

Which is a darn shame considering how great the CSI shows sound in 5.1... seriously, some of the best 5.1 use on network TV...

~Alan

Jeez,
Here we go again. Channel 27 dropped dialog five minutes into Pushing up Daisies last night. Seems that they switched from 5.1 surround to 2.0 using L & R from the surround, dropping the center channel where ABC puts ALL the dialog. Can't anyone have monitors in master control?????? I had to switch over to CH 13 from Panama City. Ch 27 should know that none of their prime time advertisers had me for an audience.

Did my DVR not record right or did WTLH not broadcast House in HD last night?

Did my DVR not record right or did WTLH not broadcast House in HD last night?
It was not HD OTA :-(
(but it was a pretty good episode)

Jeez,
Here we go again. Channel 27 dropped dialog five minutes into Pushing up Daisies last night. Seems that they switched from 5.1 surround to 2.0 using L & R from the surround, dropping the center channel where ABC puts ALL the dialog. Can't anyone have monitors in master control?????? I had to switch over to CH 13 from Panama City. Ch 27 should know that none of their prime time advertisers had me for an audience.

I noticed that too after I started watching the program I was recorded 15 minutes into it. I called the station and let them know but it took about 30 minutes to get it fixed.

Today I spoke with John Clark, their engineer and he said they have a problem with the audio switch that they have not yet figured out, but which causes the audio to not switch properly. He said that ABC sends the HD video and 5.1 only audio feed in one signal - they do not send a corresponding 2.0 audio feed in the same signal. They would have to drop to SD video to use the 2.0 audio, which is thier analog signal. The 5.1 audio switch is supposed to work automatically but for some reason they have not yet solved it does not always do that. And of course they do a miserable job of monitoring it from the master control. They also had some pretty bad video pixelization on Comcast as well, and I mentioned that to him. The odd thing was that when 5.1 audio finally came back about 45 minutes into the program that dialogue went away on the commercials. Maybe it was goblins - it was Halloween after all. BTW, that was one of the best Pushing Daisy episodes so far. Download it from ABC.com if you have to - its worth seeing (and hearing!).

I used the email WTLHFOXHD provided in an earlier post and emailed him Tuesday. He said he'd look into the problem. Hopefully FOX HD should be back tonight. *crosses fingers*

Hopefully some good OTA programming tonight HD or else:

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/6530/tallyhdlolcatfm6.png
*ducks*

We are having a problem with a piece of Fox gear (out of our direct control) We are seeing errors in a stream and it is locking up our Splicer output (putting us in safe mode 4:3 Local) I am working with Fox/Thompson to fix this problem. If you see any problems or just want to Bit** (dsmith901 :) ) send me an email. wtlhhdproblems@fox49.com. I do want you to have HD most of the time. :).....

Keeps dropping in and out during the game last night...anyone still having problems or just me? Are they not at full power? Im getting everything else in find just not WTXL:(

Keeps dropping in and out during the game last night...anyone still having problems or just me? Are they not at full power? Im getting everything else in find just not WTXL

It was the same with me OTA; haven't checked today

I had the sound drop for a few seconds a couple of times during the game but the picture was fine. I get it OTA.

We are having a problem with a piece of Fox gear (out of our direct control) We are seeing errors in a stream and it is locking up our Splicer output (putting us in safe mode 4:3 Local) I am working with Fox/Thompson to fix this problem. If you see any problems or just want to Bit** (dsmith901 :) ) send me an email. wtlhhdproblems@fox49.com. I do want you to have HD most of the time. :).....

Bitch? Me?? I am the guy who called the WTXL engineer 5 minutes into Ugly Betty last Thursday so we could all enjoy ABC programming that night with dialogue. You are welcome! :D

Now, what happened to SciFi going HD? I thought someone here said they were to do that by now. Anyone?

Now, what happened to SciFi going HD? I thought someone here said they were to do that by now. Anyone?

I don't know if you are serious, or sarcastic since Comcast has yet to add it, but Sci-Fi-HD has been available on DirecTV now for over a month.

SG:A is FANTASTIC in HD and DD5.1, and "Flash Gordon" is a lot more fun to watch in HD than SD...

~Alan

Now, what happened to SciFi going HD? I thought someone here said they were to do that by now.

According to this thread it is announced (but still pending) for Comcast, and not available for E*:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=419472

Bitch? Me?? I am the guy who called the WTXL engineer 5 minutes into Ugly Betty last Thursday so we could all enjoy ABC programming that night with dialogue. You are welcome! :D
If one can enjoy that program. :)

If one can enjoy that program. :)

"That" program was followed by Gray's Anatomy (I watch) and Big Shots (I don't watch), both of which would probably have also missed on the dialogue if someone had not called in. So, unless you are big on lip-reading I say again, you are welcome!

According to this thread it is announced (but still pending) for Comcast, and not available for E*:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=419472

Thanks, and hallelujah! Now (assuming TalComcast gets with it) we are getting somewhere! I would love to see "Flash" in HD! Is Battlestar Galactica still alive, or was it canned?

Did anyone else experience a dropout of audio in the middle of Cavemen tonight?

It was again with the rear surround being sent to the front. This is happening at least once a week, on either WTXL or WTWC. It is ridiculous.

I went through with my Tivo and wrote down the local advertisers, and will be calling each of them tomorrow to let them know that they wasted their money on advertising and should request their money back. I'm beginning to think that this is my only recourse. It is quite simple to see that a TV show with the dialog missing is a TV show that no one will watch. So, why would any business pay to advertise on that show.

Does anyone know of an address, email, or phone number of the ABC and NBC corporate offices where I can call and report the affiliates in Tallahassee for their screw-ups?

<peeking around the corner>
Is it safe to post in here yet?
I haven't been here in a while because I can only imagine how much WTXL flaming has been going on!! Thanks dsmith for passing on the info about why the audio problems are kicking our butt. The automation still doesn't work, so the operators are doing it manually.

It is interesting that back in the early days of television, you had to have a license to be a master control operator, but now that things are as complicated as they have ever been, with 5.1 sound, HD, server based playback, etc., the TV stations will let anyone do it. Worse yet, these anybodys are usually running two or more stations at once on a Windows computer... and you know how that goes. Have you ever installed an upgrade to fix one problem (or just be "up to date"), only to find out that one of you programs doesn't work anymore? What if that program that doesn't work anymore controls the audio for all the local ABC viewers?!?

Personal opinion: I would trade the hundreds of channels that are available to the average home viewer for about 6 really good channels that have a FULL staff of highly trained operators. Then there will be something worth watching again.

I'll check back in a few days. Let me know if you have any questions or even old problems to complain about. Did the Valdosta cable system ever get our HD on the air?

Yes...Mediacom Valdosta added it a few weeks ago on channel 827.
Thanks for your efforts!

Still can't get WTXL HD OTA in Lake Park, GA.

jcrstudios,

Thanks for the insight into the problem. Please express to station management the concerns of those here and all your viewers as to how important it is to do HD right, including the audio. And remind them that in about 15 months they won't have a choice - analog will be gone and they will have to do digital right or all those non-HD viewers are going to start howling for their license!

Still can't get WTXL HD ABC in Moultrie, GA. I can get everything else I need but no ABC.

For the record, I am able to receive WTXL-DT OTA on my radio shack outdoor antenna using my TV's tuner and/or a D* HR20. I'm in Valdosta and get about 50% signal with the antenna sitting on the ground next to my power meter.

@JRCStudios Are any of the cable companies using 27-2 to feed their analog viewers or does this channel serve some other purpose?

WTXL did it again (no dialogue on HD) Thursday evening. This is getting old, old, old, old!

Really, I watched Gray's Anatomy and it had dialog?

We had OTA dialogue during last half of Ugly Betty and during Grey's (didn't have it on at other times)

I'm collecting information from various locations that have a digital station on channel 2 VHF. A number of posters have reported that they can't receive any signal on their DirecTV HR20-100 (not the -700, that's OK) on OTA stations transmitting their digital signal on channel 2 (channel 3 seems to be OK). It's not just an antenna issue. If you have an HR20-100 with OTA post back and tell me do you receive WTWC OK?

Really, I watched Gray's Anatomy and it had dialog?

That is because I called (three times) and after 15 minutes finally got hold of the engineer and got him to flip the switch during Ugly Betty. :mad:

The next day I called and spoke with the new station manager and gave him a hard time. He kept saying they were aware of the problem and would fix it asap. I repeated what one of the engineers told me - that the solution was a $70,000 piece of equipment - and he denied it, say it was a software problem or some technical issue with handling the audio signal from ABC. I don't believe him, but maybe John Clark or the engineer I spoke with will come here and defend the station. Friday I clicked onto "Men in Trees" (HD)and again there was no dialogue during the prelim, but it came in just as the main program started. Guess they didn't want me calling - again!

I'm collecting information from various locations that have a digital station on channel 2 VHF. A number of posters have reported that they can't receive any signal on their DirecTV HR20-100 (not the -700, that's OK) on OTA stations transmitting their digital signal on channel 2 (channel 3 seems to be OK). It's not just an antenna issue. If you have an HR20-100 with OTA post back and tell me do you receive WTWC OK?

I have HR20-100 and got WTWC OK using a CM 3016 in the attic. I am not that far from the tower.

That is because I called (three times) and after 15 minutes finally got hold of the engineer and got him to flip the switch during Ugly Betty. :mad:

The next day I called and spoke with the new station manager and gave him a hard time. He kept saying they were aware of the problem and would fix it asap. I repeated what one of the engineers told me - that the solution was a $70,000 piece of equipment - and he denied it, say it was a software problem or some technical issue with handling the audio signal from ABC. I don't believe him, but maybe John Clark or the engineer I spoke with will come here and defend the station. Friday I clicked onto "Men in Trees" (HD)and again there was no dialogue during the prelim, but it came in just as the main program started. Guess they didn't want me calling - again!

Dsmith: remember that us engineers WANT to do it right, but we can not run the station ourselves 24/7. The reason you got ahold of engineer #2 is because he was here dealing with the aftermath of the Bobby Bowden show. We would very much like to give out the number to the controller, but are not allowed based on station policy. We don't make the rules, we just work here!
So please, if you talk to one of us, try being less rude on the phone and you will get more (accurate) information. I was standing next to engineer #2 when you were talking to him and almost hung up the phone for him.

I repeated what one of the engineers told me - that the solution was a $70,000 piece of equipment -

that was out of frustration for a better automation system (that works!)

Dsmith: remember that us engineers WANT to do it right, but we can not run the station ourselves 24/7. The reason you got ahold of engineer #2 is because he was here dealing with the aftermath of the Bobby Bowden show. We would very much like to give out the number to the controller, but are not allowed based on station policy. We don't make the rules, we just work here!
So please, if you talk to one of us, try being less rude on the phone and you will get more (accurate) information. I was standing next to engineer #2 when you were talking to him and almost hung up the phone for him.

I apologize if I came off as rude, but the truth is I was just totally frustrated - that was the third incident of that nature within a month and I had called each time yet you guys (WTXL) were doing it yet again. Plus it took me three calls to get through that night, so by then I was starting to stew a bit. Can you really blame me for being frustrated? I don't really think I was rude, I was just asking a lot of questions and trying to understand just HOW the station kept making the same mistake with such regularity, and WHY the problem was not being permanently fixed, If that $70,000 piece of equipment will solve the problem then I say cough it up and you will never have to hear from me again, at least on that subject.

I live on Capital Circle Northwest, near the super walmart. I do not get NBCHD OTA. I get all the other channels, and get them very well. Signal strength is in the high 80's most of the time. Anyone on this side of town able to pick up NBC HD OTA?

I live on Capital Circle Northwest, near the super walmart. I do not get NBCHD OTA. I get all the other channels, and get them very well. Signal strength is in the high 80's most of the time. Anyone on this side of town able to pick up NBC HD OTA?

It'll help if you tell what antenna you are using. NBC is broadcasting on VHF frequency 2.

So it is still VHF? Somewhere I heard/read it was UHF. I will have to play around a bit more with my antenna.

Currently I am using the Terk indoor antenna.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7322587&type=product&id=1118844608800

I am happy to say that for the first time EVER, the audio switch to 5.1 mode happened AUTOMATICALLY tonight for pushing daisies!! i can only hope going back to Stereo is just as easy.

I run the idea past the GM that maybe we should just add to our automated answering service "If you are hearing music but no dialog, press 4" and just have our viewers (dsmith) take care of audio switching for us, but he didn't like that idea too much!! :D

Have a happy Thanksgiving!! (Don't watch TV that day, as I won't be here to fix it if it breaks!)

--JRC

I am happy to say that for the first time EVER, the audio switch to 5.1 mode happened AUTOMATICALLY tonight for pushing daisies!! i can only hope going back to Stereo is just as easy.

I run the idea past the GM that maybe we should just add to our automated answering service "If you are hearing music but no dialog, press 4" and just have our viewers (dsmith) take care of audio switching for us, but he didn't like that idea too much!! :D


--JRC

LOL! Re the "press 4" option, okay by me! Congrats on getting the audio switch to finally work right - just hope it was not a one-time happenstance.

I now can occasionally receive WALB-DT (10.2) on the northeastern side of town. This channel has Weather Plus.

I do wish that the Tallahassee ABC and NBC stations would broadcast something other than SD and HD feeds of the main chanel. Twenty-four hour weather would be a great addition.

I now can occasionally receive WALB-DT (10.2) on the northeastern side of town. This channel has Weather Plus.

I do wish that the Tallahassee ABC and NBC stations would broadcast something other than SD and HD feeds of the main chanel. Twenty-four hour weather would be a great addition.

The only thing channels like Weather Plus does is steal bandwidth from the main HD channel and picture quality suffers. You can get twenty-four hour weather from other sources

Minor note....WTLH-DT is now on Mediacom Valdosta

WTLH-DT is on QAM in Valdosta but have you been able to find it on a cable box? Its not in the normal HD channel range if it is mapped to a channel.

Antennas:
Due NE of town, 2 miles past I-10, I was using an amplified wineguard omnidirectional antenna attached on 5 foot pole to the awning and getting VHF (NBC) great (100) and passable UHF.
I switched to a highly-rated generic radioshack HD antenna($79) grey plastic oval. I am getting everything but, but it has to be pointed toward the VHF direction, though so far I have just eye-balled it.
According to my DTV HD box I get 6.1 (100%); 11.1 (40%); 27.1 (80%); 40.1 (90%); 49.1 (78%). This is after two splitters.

The only thing channels like Weather Plus does is steal bandwidth from the main HD channel and picture quality suffers. You can get twenty-four hour weather from other sources
Dangit....is it possible to turn it off during prime-time hours? :eek: Wishful thinking, I know.


WTLH-DT is on QAM in Valdosta but have you been able to find it on a cable box? Its not in the normal HD channel range if it is mapped to a channel.

Don't have any digital cable Mediacom boxes; I only have a DVD-recorder so I can't say. Although on the QAM tuner WTLH (117-2) is mapped right next to WCTV (117-1) and is showing "4:3" aspect ratio although obviously pillarboxed 16:9.

The only thing channels like Weather Plus does is steal bandwidth from the main HD channel and picture quality suffers. You can get twenty-four hour weather from other sources

Does it steal anymore bandwidth than the SD feed? The 40-1 HD feed should be sufficient for HD. Put something other than the SD feed. Weather with an active radar would be convenient and better than the SD feed IMHO. If additional bandwidth is needed for HD, the 40-2 feed could be stopped during primetime similar to WFSU's 11-3 and 11-4.

Does it steal anymore bandwidth than the SD feed? The 40-1 HD feed should be sufficient for HD. Put something other than the SD feed. Weather with an active radar would be convenient and better than the SD feed IMHO. If additional bandwidth is needed for HD, the 40-2 feed could be stopped during primetime similar to WFSU's 40-3 and 40-4.

I am a little slow. I am not sure what the SD feed of the network has to do with what you are requesting. I thought the SD versions of the network channels are analog and completely separate from the digital feed. Things like the weather channel you are asking for are run on sub channels of the digital feed. The more sub channels the less bandwidth for each, including the primary HD feed.

Good luck getting the local stations to manage bandwidth based on need.

Texadillo, what he is saying is that on 40 & 27 the first feed (40-1 & 27-1) is their HD feed; the second (40-2 & 27-2) is the SD version of the same thing. Wasting bandwidth. Why? If all the channel is not to be devoted to the HD feed, why not put something (like weather radar) that would be useful?

Texadillo, what he is saying is that on 40 & 27 the first feed (40-1 & 27-1) is their HD feed; the second (40-2 & 27-2) is the SD version of the same thing. Wasting bandwidth. Why? If all the channel is not to be devoted to the HD feed, why not put something (like weather radar) that would be useful?

Thanks for the explanation. You are right, if it is not being devoted to the HD feed then go ahead and use it. I just wish it was devoted to the HD feed.

WTLH-DT is on QAM in Valdosta but have you been able to find it on a cable box? Its not in the normal HD channel range if it is mapped to a channel.

I have Medicom and get WTLH-DT only on QAM. I also get WTLH-DT OTA and both are in square box, something akin to a 3:3 ratio. None of my other digital channels react that way. They are either 4:3 or 16:9 while the HD signal is available. WTLHFOXHD do you have an answer??:confused:

I see where the FCC caved in to the cable lobby and decided to let them continue to screw us for the indefinite future. No doubt about it, we have the best federal bureaucrats money can (and does) buy. Please, Verizon, come to Tallahassee with FIOS!

For some reason I am no longer able to receive ABC (WTXL) over the air in HD on 27.1. Antenna is pointed the same (toward Medcalf) and I am still receiving 6.1. 40.1, and 49.1. Are others receiving WTXL over the air (OTA)? Has their antenna location changed or has their power been reduced? Thanks,

Svenfran

For some reason I am no longer able to receive ABC (WTXL) over the air in HD on 27.1. Antenna is pointed the same (toward Medcalf) and I am still receiving 6.1. 40.1, and 49.1. Are others receiving WTXL over the air (OTA)? Has their antenna location changed or has their power been reduced? Thanks,

Svenfran

I'm still getting it at the same signal strength.

Still getting WTXL OTA just fine in Valdosta.

I am in Valdosta and currently have Mediacom's sad excuse for an HD lineup.. I saw that Dish Networks offer HD Locals (Tallahassee) and am thinking of going with them. Anyone in this area currently use Dish? Should I go or stay..

I am in Valdosta and currently have Mediacom's sad excuse for an HD lineup.. I saw that Dish Networks offer HD Locals (Tallahassee) and am thinking of going with them. Anyone in this area currently use Dish? Should I go or stay..

Stay AWAY from Dish!! Dish has said that they will only add HD Locals in the top 50 markets. That leaves Tallahassee out. They only offer SD locals.
Go with DirecTV They have the most national HD channels (85 and fixing to add more) than Dish. Also DirecTV WILL add the Talahassee HD locals mid 08.

Stay AWAY from Dish!! Dish has said that they will only add HD Locals in the top 50 markets. That leaves Tallahassee out. They only offer SD locals.
Go with DirecTV They have the most national HD channels (85 and fixing to add more) than Dish. Also DirecTV WILL add the Talahassee HD locals mid 08.

Didn't really want to go with dish but I thought they offered Local HD channels.. After doing a Local HD search on their site.. Got excited when Tallahassee Channels were available.. Didn't notice the fine print though - "Please note: Only channels designated by "HD" are in high definition. Those without this notation are only available in standard definition." I'm just tired of Mediacoms 9 HD channel lineup for 13.95. I have read of DirecTV HD locals coming to Tallahassee but I have also heard that from back in 06, so don't know if that will ever happen.. Thanks for the Warning.

Chris

For some reason I am no longer able to receive ABC (WTXL) over the air in HD on 27.1. Antenna is pointed the same (toward Medcalf) and I am still receiving 6.1. 40.1, and 49.1. Are others receiving WTXL over the air (OTA)? Has their antenna location changed or has their power been reduced? Thanks,

Svenfran

Nothing has changed... WTXL is still running the same power we have always had (although low compared to everyone else) We will not be changing until Feb 2009.

--John

I have read of DirecTV HD locals coming to Tallahassee but I have also heard that from back in 06, so don't know if that will ever happen.. Thanks for the Warning.

Chris

They were going to add them, BUT the local stations were not ready.
DirecTV 11 will go up hopefully around Jan - Feb 08. Give it about 6 to 8 weeks of testing then we sould (if all goes well with DirecTV 11) get the Tallahassee locals.

Is it just my TV or is WTLH's programming that's not in HD directly from FOX displaying in what looks like a 3:3 square format?

Right now I'm watching 49 and the Simpsons is on. The Simpsons is in about a square, that FOX49 logo bug is off to the right in black. It looks like it's a 16:9 picture smashed into 4:3. Just wondering if it was WTLH or my TV doing something strange.

Nothing has changed... WTXL is still running the same power we have always had (although low compared to everyone else) We will not be changing until Feb 2009.

--John


Why? Only one or two viewers in Valdosta area can get your digital OTA signal now. Is your 09 restraint $$$ or FCC driven? I would watch MediaCom analog channel 2 ABC Atlanta if that was not blacked out except for news. Damn, do you guys have some dirty trick hanging over FCC's head? It sure ain't excellence in broadcasting.:(

Is it just my TV or is WTLH's programming that's not in HD directly from FOX displaying in what looks like a 3:3 square format?

Right now I'm watching 49 and the Simpsons is on. The Simpsons is in about a square, that FOX49 logo bug is off to the right in black. It looks like it's a 16:9 picture smashed into 4:3. Just wondering if it was WTLH or my TV doing something strange.

The problem is Fox local WTLH-DT. I contacted them last week on the same issue. FoxWTLH-HD said it would be fixed "Friday". I should have asked which Friday as 11/30/07 has gone by with no fix. He also said that Valdosta MediaCom would loose WFXL-DT FOX Albany and be replaced by his station WTLH-DT "Friday". It may happen Friday, which Friday---- is any one's guess.:rolleyes:

He also said that Valdosta MediaCom would loose WFXL-DT FOX Albany and be replaced by his station WTLH-DT

That kinda stinks.. I read about WTLH-DT having problems all the time when WFXL-DT has been on the ball lately. Plus who wants to watch Tampa Bay games when WFXL-DT plays the mighty Falcons :D

I don't understand why we can't have both FOX stations. WFXL is significantly viewed and believe it or not their switcher and splicer seem to work well together! On the other hand, WTLH hasn't had a consistent HD signal ever. There are always problems! Why take away a working station and replace it with one that doesn't...Plus, most years, I like to watch the Falcons, especially over the Bucks. Valdosta is in GA we should get our home state team!! Also, NBC40 and WALB10 are both on Mediacom in SD and HD. How is this any different? Maybe by replace he meant mapped to an actual channel...here's to hoping. I guess WTLH would rather force people to watch them rather than provide a superior product that viewers would want to watch....

Why? Only one or two viewers in Valdosta area can get your digital OTA signal now. Is your 09 restraint $$$ or FCC driven? I would watch MediaCom analog channel 2 ABC Atlanta if that was not blacked out except for news. Damn, do you guys have some dirty trick hanging over FCC's head? It sure ain't excellence in broadcasting.:(

WTXL is on Mediacom in clear QAM on channel 80-something. If you already have mediacom you should be able to watch that version for no additional charge. Overall, WTXL is not a bad station and their HD product is quite good minus a few sound hiccups. By the way, I pick up WTXL with an old school outdoor $29 UHF Radioshack antenna sitting on the ground next to my house just off Bay Tree. I also pick up WALB, WCTV, WSWG, and WTLH with no problems.

WTXL is on Mediacom in clear QAM on channel 80-something. If you already have mediacom you should be able to watch that version for no additional charge. Overall, WTXL is not a bad station and their HD product is quite good minus a few sound hiccups. By the way, I pick up WTXL with an old school outdoor $29 UHF Radioshack antenna sitting on the ground next to my house just off Bay Tree. I also pick up WALB, WCTV, WSWG, and WTLH with no problems.

You are one of the two in the Valdosta area that pick up WTXL-DT OTA. As the old saying goes "if it ain't broke don't fix it". I get all OTA except WTXL. On MediaCom on my Cable STB Recorder which is connected to our main TV does receive WTXL-Dt channel 827. My second TV which has a QAM tuner, receives only two DT stations, 117.2 WTLH-DT and 117.1 WCTV-DT. I question why the power on WTXL-DT cannot be adjusted to serve the areas they advertise, i.e. Valdosta. Many people do not have cable for what ever reason. Start edit: After posting this award wining drivel, I double checked my QAM capable TV and Viola! ABC digital on 80.1. Thank you for bringing this to my (and maybe others) attention Bradley. I usually scan weekly to see if new stations are available but missed this one. My 2 cents.

Well, I'm not sure why you can't pick it up on QAM. I'm not in Valdosta right now, but last time I checked a few days ago it came in fine. I'm not trying to be an apologist for WTXL but you have to understand the economics of the situation. They are currently broadcasting two stations which requires A LOT of electricity! Halfing the power of the Digital broadcast potentially saves them $5,000 or more a month. Since most of their viewers are in Tallahassee and Thomasville (which can easily pick up the OTA signal) its not worth the added cost so 3 people in Valdosta can pick up their station. Most people watching OTA only are probably still analog or have a large antenna on the roof making reception a non-issue.

@JRC Studios: Need any reporters/camera ops for a Valdosta bureau? I've even have Final Cut Pro.... ;)

Well, I'm not sure why you can't pick it up on QAM. I'm not in Valdosta right now, but last time I checked a few days ago it came in fine. I'm not trying to be an apologist for WTXL but you have to understand the economics of the situation. They are currently broadcasting two stations which requires A LOT of electricity! Halfing the power of the Digital broadcast potentially saves them $5,000 or more a month. Since most of their viewers are in Tallahassee and Thomasville (which can easily pick up the OTA signal) its not worth the added cost so 3 people in Valdosta can pick up their station. Most people watching OTA only are probably still analog or have a large antenna on the roof making reception a non-issue.

@JRC Studios: Need any reporters/camera ops for a Valdosta bureau? I've even have Final Cut Pro.... ;)

Read my post.

Since most of their viewers are in Tallahassee and Thomasville (which can easily pick up the OTA signal) its not worth the added cost so 3 people in Valdosta can pick up their station. Most people watching OTA only are probably still analog or have a large antenna on the roof making reception a non-issue.



So if only 3 people in Valdosta can pick up WTXL, then no one in Valdosta should advertise on WTXL and you should STOP boasting about being the only "local" station broadcasting news in HD.

I have been a long time subscriber to DirecTV (D*), back to the good 'ol days of USSB (early 90's), but due to a pending divorce, I recently moved from the Northshire neighborhood to the Gardens of Killearn and have been trying to decide on whether to stay with D* or go with Comcast or have a combination of the two. I have always owned and installed my own sat equipment, but I'm leaving all of it with my wife. I had been getting the local channels over the air, but do not think I'm going to continue doing that at my new house.

Here's my questions:

1. Can anyone recommend a competent D* installer in Tallahassee? I want someone who will do the job correctly and not what's easiest for the installer to slap together.

2. Has anyone gone to Comcast for the local hi def channels and D* for the other hi def programming? If yes, can both be transmitted over the same RG6 cables? And who did your install?

Read my post.

Ross, some of those QAM channel numbers you have are the same as on my DVD recorder:

112-3 WALB
112-4 WFXL
114-4 WTWC
117-1 WCTV
117-2 WTLH

I can get WTLH, WFXL, WTWC, WALB, WTXL, and WCTV on QAM (albeit downconverted). Now I wonder exactly what resolution and bitrate do the QAM channels have?

/I'll miss WFXL on local QAM *sniff*

So if only 3 people in Valdosta can pick up WTXL, then no one in Valdosta should advertise on WTXL and you should STOP boasting about being the only "local" station broadcasting news in HD.

But they ARE the only local newscast in HD. They didn't claim to be the only OTA local newscast in HD. Their promos say "the only station to bring you the news in HD." How they bring it to you is not stated. In New York City, they have a cable only channel that just does local news; Do they not cover NYC since they aren't over the air? WTXL DOES cover Valdosta with Analog OTA and ANALOG CABLE (which is all the advertisers care about) and the HD version is available with some work OTA or via Cable to the majority of Valdosta residents. I would like to see WTXL go full power but its just not going to happen until it has to or their is some financial incentive for them to do so.

Nothing has changed... WTXL is still running the same power we have always had (although low compared to everyone else) We will not be changing until Feb 2009.

--JohnWhat's changing? Power output or location? Sorry I've been outta the loop for a while.

Their power output will increase to a level similar to WCTV or WTLH.

Ross, some of those QAM channel numbers you have are the same as on my DVD recorder:

112-3 WALB
112-4 WFXL
114-4 WTWC
117-1 WCTV
117-2 WTLH

I can get WTLH, WFXL, WTWC, WALB, WTXL, and WCTV on QAM (albeit downconverted). Now I wonder exactly what resolution and bitrate do the QAM channels have?

/I'll miss WFXL on local QAM *sniff*

Clarence Thanks for tip. My QAM maps slightly different on the following:

112.1 WFXL-DT Fox
112.2 WALB-DT NBC

Also so far WTWC-DT NBC does not come in at all.
Now if PBS will ever get their act together, we will DT "rich". :cool: