I returned from a week-long conference yesterday. I couldn't wait to get to the TV to check the reception. There was very little access to TV at the very remote conference center. ;-(

Up - I was very happy to see GPB's HD signal on Channel 14. It was great last night. However, the signal is broken up this morning. WABW will give us another PBS option. WFSU is just not received well in Centerville. ;-(

Down - As others have mentioned, the ACC Tournament is not in HD on WTLH. The broadcast signal is also not the best. I wish the FCC would let the free market rule. I pay $ for ESPN, but it is blacked out in lieu of the local signal. When I stopped by a Jacksonville Sports Bar for the end of the Carolina game, it was a beautiful HD signal.

Go Heels! ;-)

If you're not concerned about VHF then have you considered a 2-bay or 4-bay (if you have enough vertical room) bowtie UHF antenna indoors?

I'm currently using a CM4221 indoors tilted back and aimed as close to Metcalf as possible and I get strong reception of WCTV, WTXL, and WTLH and I'm 45+ miles away.

Previously I used an antenna similar to the CM4220 (http://www.solidsignal.tv/prod_display.asp?PROD=CM4220). These bowtie antennas are not even 2 feet wide but you'd need a lamppost to post them on.

Thanks but those appear to be outdoor antennas, right? So regular rabbit ears don't work? Maybe we need to rethink this whole digital TV thing (just kidding!). :o

Local fox sucks. If you are going to hijack the freakin basketball tournament at least show it. Right now I am looking at black screen. You guys have zero credibility. Wah, it costs money to do it right, well then don't get involved. Stick with your reality tv and stay away from sports.

It was Raycom. The same thing happened in Raleigh according to a friend there.

Raycomsports.com has "SD" and "HD" feeds on their site.

Okay, I want to see if any of you experts can help me. I have a Panasonic E55H DVD-R recorder with HDD and it is one sweet machine. Up until recently its schedule guide (TVG) worked perfectly, but apparently as a result of the digital switch it no longer gets the information it needs from a local analog channel (it does not have a digital tuner). Since Comcast still sends out analog signals to legacy TVs is there any way they can send the TVG information also? Or am I just screwed here? Actually I didn't use the DVR tuner much anyway (I mostly record from the Comcast box via S-video), but when I did it was nice to have and I miss it for certain programs I want to record on it. Anyone know what if anything can be done?

I do have a ChannelMaster CM7000 digital converter that I can hook up to it for local channels but I would still miss the SD Comcast channels I used to have access to. So the second question is are any of the local digital OTA stations carrying TVG information that the CM7000 would pull in for the E55H?

After being questioned on HD, Comcast Tallahassee told me we should be getting MLB Network HD and The Weather Channel HD on April 1st. They are also considering Sun Sports HD once they launch their 24/7 HD service.

Now if Comcast could get all of the Marlins and Rays baseball games. 95 Marlins and 75 Rays games are not nearly enough to a baseball junkie. :p

So the second question is are any of the local digital OTA stations carrying TVG information that the CM7000 would pull in for the E55H?
The last time I checked Trip's TVGOS page (http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos) last week, the nearest station that had TVGOS was in the Gainesville market, WGFL I think. I didn't check for Panama City market, though. :(

UPDATE: Nope, according to Trip's page there are no stations that an indoor antenna setup would pick up. :( :(

UPDATE: Nope, according to Trip's page there are no stations that an indoor antenna setup would pick up. :( :(

I don't have any data for the area. Nobody in the area seems to use OTA with a Windows-based computer tuner.

However, Gray stations (WCTV) don't carry it as far as I've observed, so unless PBSengineer is carrying it on WFSU, it's probably not being carried in the area.

- Trip

We carried TVGOS listings on our analog channel 11. This was a deal brokered by PBS nationally. We actually got paid a few pennies to do so. The new deal offered for putting it on PBS digital stations was only to give us free ads on their web page. PBS elected not to do it, so it was offered to CBS. The deal has to go through the local station and WCTV did not like the deal either.
Last I heard, FOX here in Tallytown was going to carry it. FOX engineers want to chime in?

Last I heard, FOX here in Tallytown was going to carry it. FOX engineers want to chime in?

Interesting info, thanks for the response.

In 99% of markets, TVGOS appears on the CBS or PBS station. I know of only one exception, and that's in San Diego where it instead comes over the CW affiliate (which was Fox until not too long ago).

There are still markets which have no TVGOS affiliate, or at least none that I'm aware of.

- Trip

We carried TVGOS listings on our analog channel 11. This was a deal brokered by PBS nationally. We actually got paid a few pennies to do so. The new deal offered for putting it on PBS digital stations was only to give us free ads on their web page. PBS elected not to do it, so it was offered to CBS. The deal has to go through the local station and WCTV did not like the deal either.
Last I heard, FOX here in Tallytown was going to carry it. FOX engineers want to chime in?

No not realy ;)

Why won't PBS or CBS carry it, as a public service if nothing else? Is it a problem or use that much bandwidth? Who at PBS can I complain to if that will help? And free ads are probably worth a lot more than pennies, so why is PBS expecting more? I know talking to WCTV is a waste of time. If they won't bother to carry their HD audio in 5.1 they probably aren't going to do this either. The other question is why can't Comcast do it on a special cable channel or subchannel? Is that possible?

Go check my list for Tallahassee again today, you might be pleasantly surprised...

- Trip

Go check my list for Tallahassee again today, you might be pleasantly surprised...

- Trip

Thanks mucho! You are a good man! Now let me see if I can get TVGOS to work on my Panny DVD-R recorder through Comcast. Or am I expecting too much - is it working already or if not when?

wabw is not up to full power yet

How is wtlh 49-3 looking for the new future and how bout the power update hope it is soon

49-3?

- Trip

No TVGOS via Comcast found as of 10:00 AM this morning. I will continue the search.

Trying to settle a debate with a friend..... Is ABC HD offered by Direct at this time? If so, have any of you guys been having issues with yours( as you can tell i have DISH)...my friend says his ABC HD was working fine until 2 weeks ago when all of a sudden he lost it. He has called direct several times but they wont send a tech out because they say ABC Hd is not offered in Tally???

Can someone help me out...

Trying to settle a debate with a friend..... Is ABC HD offered by Direct at this time? If so, have any of you guys been having issues with yours( as you can tell i have DISH)...my friend says his ABC HD was working fine until 2 weeks ago when all of a sudden he lost it. He has called direct several times but they wont send a tech out because they say ABC Hd is not offered in Tally???

Can someone help me out...

Direct doesn't have ABC HD at this time, though it's easy to pick up with an antenna.

Direct doesn't have ABC HD at this time, though it's easy to pick up with an antenna.

Thanks Powerblock...funny thing is for weeks he had been claiming he was receiving ABCHD-without it being OTA....he says he watching a Sunday NBA and then all of a sudden: POOF , it was gone...I knew he was making it up....

Still no TVGOS over Comcast in Tallahassee. Can anyone confirm that it is/will be working? Thanks.

Yes! As of this morning I have TVGOS via Comcast! Thanks to whoever is responsible.

Anybody know why my 49.1 goes in and out. Seems to work perfect until I want to watch something like the Nascar Race today. Was watching that triathlon show with no problems this morning and the minute the race coverage started it blanked out. As soon as the race was over and Top Model came on I was able to watch just fine again. I'm in the Miccosukee area using a DB4 in the attic.

Anybody know why my 49.1 goes in and out. Seems to work perfect until I want to watch something like the Nascar Race today. Was watching that triathlon show with no problems this morning and the minute the race coverage started it blanked out. As soon as the race was over and Top Model came on I was able to watch just fine again. I'm in the Miccosukee area using a DB4 in the attic.

Don't know about 49.1 but 27.1 was doing that tonight. The moment Brothers & Sisters started, I got zilch. Once it ended, 27.1 was just fine.

Where is 49's tower? I seem to have to aim my antenna towards Bainbridge to pick them up. If I aim at Metcalf it doesn't ever come in. Are they transmitting from Bainbridge, Metcalf, or Midway?

The ironic thing is while I couldn't get the Nascar race I could watch 49.2 clear as a bell and the signal strength for 49.1 and 49.2 was the same at 89% even when I couldn't see the picture on 49.1.

Comcast has added GPB-HD on Channel 439. So I wonder how much HD they show. WFSU cannot show anything in HD unless it is fed by satellite in HD at the time of airing.

Update: WFSU can record and playback HD programs as of March 1.

Update: WFSU can record and playback HD programs as of March 1.
You are my hero. :o

Update: WFSU can record and playback HD programs as of March 1.

Thanks. Perhaps you can explain why so much "HD" on WFSU is more like 15:9 rather than the 16:9 HD aspect, which leaves small side bars rather than filling a widescreen display? Can't that be fixed?

It's actually 14:9. This is what our upconverted SD looks like. When we do not have a HD version of the show, and for the breaks, we upconvert the original 4:3 SD material. Management has made the decision to zoom/crop to 14:9. That's "fat" people to my way of thinking, but I'm overulled. If you agree/disagree, you should make your wishes known at http://www.wfsu.org/about/contact.php

Is there any particular reason why the HD channels went out yesterday and today with the weather, but when I switched to SD channels, they were all working just fine? Is the HD signal not as strong to cut through the bad weather?

Is anyone having issues with WCTV and WTWC HD feeds? I can't get either, every other channel works, including both SD feeds. Signal strength is in the 90's, yet nothing for either channel. I get WTLH no problem. Every single channel is working fine. I reset the receiver and still get the 771 message. I expected it with the weather yesterday, but today it is just as perfect as can be.

Still no TVGOS over Comcast in Tallahassee. Can anyone confirm that it is/will be working? Thanks.

Lucky you. Is it still working? My Sony KDL 40W4100 which has the TVGOS feature has not worked since approx Sep 08. I called, emailed, yelled out the window at every one in the chain of delivery and still have no listings. Today I got a terse email from Microvision stating "You should start seeing listings the 1st two weeks of April". Well I'm ready, hope this isn't another dead end. Can you confirm that your host is in fact Fox WTLH-DT? ;)

My FOX OTA went out again today just as the Nascar coverage came on. Watched the 27th Annual Country Showdown and as soon as the race coverage came on the screen went black and the audio was faint and choppy. No change registered in signal strength at 88%.

I live in Miccosukee at area code 32309. I'm using an Antennas Direct DB4 antenna with a FUCHITECK atsc set-top box zat-600hd hdtv tuner through a Hitachi 36UDX10SA HDTV. I have the antenna hanging in the attic and pointed in the approximate direction of Metcalf. I receive 6.1, 6.2, 27.1, 27.2, 40.1, and 40.2 consistently. 49.1 and 49.2 are hit or miss, sometimes I get them and sometimes not. I can usually get 49.2 even if 49.1 is messing up. If I change direction on the antenna I can usually get the PBS stations with no trouble.

I heard a rumor....
Direct TV may be adding WTXL-HD sometime soon..
Can any Direct users confirm?

Can't confirm anything, but I'll certainly keep a keen eye out for it.

Thanks for (hopefully) the heads-up jrcstudios. :)

Lucky you. Is it still working? My Sony KDL 40W4100 which has the TVGOS feature has not worked since approx Sep 08. I called, emailed, yelled out the window at every one in the chain of delivery and still have no listings. Today I got a terse email from Microvision stating "You should start seeing listings the 1st two weeks of April". Well I'm ready, hope this isn't another dead end. Can you confirm that your host is in fact Fox WTLH-DT? ;)


Still working for me. Are you using Comcast?

Trip in VA gave this link that lists WTLH as the provider (Tallahassee is no. 107):

http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos

My TVGOS is on my Panasonic EH55, so I don't know if that makes a difference. Have you done a new search in setup? I think that may be required. I can take up to 24 hours to start listing programs.

I've been told TVGOS will be down for another week or so at least, nationwide. Not sure of the accuracy of that statement.

- Trip

Still working for me. Are you using Comcast?

Trip in VA gave this link that lists WTLH as the provider (Tallahassee is no. 107):

http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos

My TVGOS is on my Panasonic EH55, so I don't know if that makes a difference. Have you done a new search in setup? I think that may be required. I can take up to 24 hours to start listing programs.

Unfortunately, My TV service comes from Mediacom in Valdosta. You would not believe the run around I have gotten from them and from GA Public Broadcasting who "was" the host. Yes I have done several rescans, entered all kinds of "codes" changed zip codes, etc. I get the channel line up but no program listing data. Anyway glad to hear yours is working properly . Perhaps the guide will eventually filter down to us in the low rent areas.:D

I've been told TVGOS will be down for another week or so at least, nationwide. Not sure of the accuracy of that statement.

- Trip

I just checked and I still have TVGOS over Comcast (Tally) at least 3 days ahead. But checking 7 days ahead only some channels have listings while others are blank (HBO listings are still complete but local stations are blank). There appears to be a hole in the listings from about 5 days out. OTOH this may be normal, I don't know.

Added 4/1 on Comcast in Tally

441 - The Weather Channel HD (no local on the 8's yet though)
479 - Major League Baseball Network HD (ooooh it's pretty).

Well.....
Management at WFSU has finally agreed that 4:3 material upconverted will be shown as 4:3 not 14:9

Of course, this will result in postage stamp displays on anyone left watching on analog TVs.

Well.....
Management at WFSU has finally agreed that 4:3 material upconverted will be shown as 4:3 not 14:9

Of course, this will result in postage stamp displays on anyone left watching on analog TVs.

More ammunition for my argument that the FCC should mandate that ALL future broadcasting must be in the WS 16:9 format (or wider), whether SD or HD. WS SD cameras are available and can be used if HD is not practical. Better yet use all HD cameras and downconvert to WS SD for transmission purposes if channel bandwidth is an issue. Older material in 4:3 will hang around for a while, but soon all but historical footage will be WS and we can forget about the sidebars silliness. PLEASE won't someone in authority use some common sense on this issue? As for analog TVs, they have to go sooner or later and the sooner the better (I say this and I still have two).

gptv wabw is at full power and looking great in cairo ga

weather in hd 24/7 . Come on Tallahassee Fl/Thomasville Ga lets get a 24/7 hd weather going for ota viewers .

gptv wabw is at full power and looking great in cairo ga

Nothing in Lake Park, GA. :mad:

Nothing in Lake Park, GA. :mad:
check out this link for all digital coverage
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/

Well.....
Management at WFSU has finally agreed that 4:3 material upconverted will be shown as 4:3 not 14:9

Of course, this will result in postage stamp displays on anyone left watching on analog TVs.

I am curious, do you use adaptive encoding and how many mbps you have assigned to each of your sub channels?

WUFT here has 14 some megs on the main channel and shows up converted 4:3 in 4:3 which is fine.

But their 5.2 (Create) is only 2.05 mbps and 5.3 (FKN day, World night) only has 1.26 mbps.

5.2 is blurry, but 5.3 is a mega block mess.

Here is the TSR reader data I captured here in Orange Springs from WUFT posted on Trip's site.

http://www.rabbitears.info/screencaps/fl-ogx/69440-0_0.htm

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BTW is anyone running XP that has an OTA tuner in the PC that could do some data captures on your locals for the database? If you already have a tuner card, the free version of TSReader is all you need to do captures for Trip's "RabbitEars.info" website.

If so send me or "Trip in VA" a PM for more information what he needs.

I was getting a great picture on WTXL 27 HD OTA. Now why does it keep breaking up.
Also WHY is WTXL HD on Dish and not on DirecTV. It is not fair. I did talk with several people from DirecTV (some local and from corp.) That do not know one from another and keeping hearing the same thing! That DirecTV would like to offer WTXL 27 HD. BUT WTXL will not let them. I want to know WHY?

I was getting a great picture on WTXL 27 HD OTA. Now why does it keep breaking up.
Also WHY is WTXL HD on Dish and not on DirecTV. It is not fair. I did talk with several people from DirecTV (some local and from corp.) That do not know one from another and keeping hearing the same thing! That DirecTV would like to offer WTXL 27 HD. BUT WTXL will not let them. I want to know WHY?

Is breaking up really fast, there then mega blocks, then back to a picture? If so that is all the foliage on the trees and this wind we have now. I am having crazy break ups on my Gainesville stations. I live 25 miles east of Gainesville.

If that sounds like your problem post here the type of antenna you are using please. It will help me also figure out my break ups.

weather in hd 24/7 . Come on Tallahassee Fl/Thomasville Ga lets get a 24/7 hd weather going for ota viewers .

24-7 weather on 27.2 as of May 1st, but not in HD

I was getting a great picture on WTXL 27 HD OTA. Now why does it keep breaking up.
Also WHY is WTXL HD on Dish and not on DirecTV. It is not fair. I did talk with several people from DirecTV (some local and from corp.) That do not know one from another and keeping hearing the same thing! That DirecTV would like to offer WTXL 27 HD. BUT WTXL will not let them. I want to know WHY?

hmm.. who else is having reception problems? We haven't changed anything that would cause less signal.

As for the delay in getting WTXL on DirecTV, it is a corporate thing, the local station can't do anything about it.

I had some WTXL ota issues on the weekend, but I just chalked that up to weather. The Directv people came out on Monday cause I was having other issues and my Dish was loose. They fixed that and everything is fine now, though admittedly, I don't watch WTXL all the time. Just Wed, Thurs and Sun nights

24-7 weather on 27.2 as of May 1st, but not in HD

I am sure you know, but to other's be glad the weather is not in HD! Weather subs are actually not bad, in particular on a main that is 720p. Give the weather sub 2.5 to 3 mbps and it's happy, not stealing anything from wide bandwidth main 720p channel.

Give that weather sub more bandwidth, and the very next post here will be how WTXL now mega blocks on sports programs.

Just did a long post in my home thread (Gainesville, FL) how you can't have it both ways.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=16218281&postcount=2739

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As an aside just to spread knowledge I ran across an interesting summary on OTA antennas.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=16216816&postcount=2736

hmm.. who else is having reception problems? We haven't changed anything that would cause less signal.

I'm still getting 80s/90s here on WTXL-DT! :)

Unfortunately, the troposphere must have been giving me some issues as I had some issues with some of the other stations I usually pick up... but managed to pick up WFSU-DT (among other nearby stations).

~Alan

Lucky you. Is it still working? My Sony KDL 40W4100 which has the TVGOS feature has not worked since approx Sep 08. I called, emailed, yelled out the window at every one in the chain of delivery and still have no listings. Today I got a terse email from Microvision stating "You should start seeing listings the 1st two weeks of April". Well I'm ready, hope this isn't another dead end. Can you confirm that your host is in fact Fox WTLH-DT? ;)

Ross, I have a KDL-46W4100, and I'm still not getting any listings.

You?

~Alan

24-7 weather on 27.2 as of May 1st, but not in HD
can't wait will it be just radar or other weather info also

can't wait will it be just radar or other weather info also

I expect nothing less than 24 hours a day of Casanova Nurse. ;)

hmm.. who else is having reception problems? We haven't changed anything that would cause less signal.

jrc, I have been having bad breakups with OTA the past few days, continuing this evening. My signal strength, when it comes through, is about 80. I am running the antenna (which is in the attic) through Dish 622.

Thanks.

Robert

jrc, I have been having bad breakups with OTA the past few days, continuing this evening. My signal strength, when it comes through, is about 80. I am running the antenna (which is in the attic) through Dish 622.

Thanks.

Robert


I had issues with it tonight during LOST. It was fine during Scrubs, but the moment LOST started, it broke up terribly, I had to switch to 27. I checked back during commercials and it was still breaking up.

I had issues with it tonight during LOST. It was fine during Scrubs, but the moment LOST started, it broke up terribly, I had to switch to 27. I checked back during commercials and it was still breaking up.

You had to switch to what? Are you saying that 27.1 was breaking up but 27.2 was not?

You had to switch to what? Are you saying that 27.1 was breaking up but 27.2 was not?

Samething happen to me last week durring Lost, had to change from 27.1 ota to DirecTV SD 27. On Monday night I could not watch DWTS ota the breakup was so bad. Thought it might have because of the high winds. My signal strength
at 6 am was 70% good picture in the afternoon during AMC it drops to 45 -60% Sometimes down to only 7% lost of signal. On good days and bad days.
Could the heat have something to do with this?

You had to switch to what? Are you saying that 27.1 was breaking up but 27.2 was not?

27.1 ota was breaking up but 27, the sd channel, was just fine. i didn't even try 27.2. It only happened during LOST. It was fine before and after. This isn't the first time it has only happened during LOST, while working ok for other programs.

27.1 ota was breaking up but 27, the sd channel, was just fine. i didn't even try 27.2. It only happened during LOST. It was fine before and after. This isn't the first time it has only happened during LOST, while working ok for other programs.

I am not up there to know what is happening but I bet it's my woes as well.

I am 25 miles average from Gainesville and this weather and wind, had caused me to mainly live on my satellite. Glad I have both.

A lot of the break ups can be minimized depending on the type of antenna you have.

I have an old style 4221 and plan shortly to add a second I have (they are out of print now), to make it into a home made 4228.

If that doens't work I was reading in another forum about a guy the finally had to go to a XG-91 to dump the ghosts. Another antenna that is a cheap ghost buster (mulitpath killer) is the Radio Shack U-75R for about $35. If it doesn't work you can take it back.

I know I need to do something because my once loved 4221A for it's wide beam is now not loved at all.

I had issues with it tonight during LOST. It was fine during Scrubs, but the moment LOST started, it broke up terribly, I had to switch to 27. I checked back during commercials and it was still breaking up.

Has anyone else noticed that whenever WTXL has HD issues it is always during new episodes of "Lost," (which happens to be my favorite show). It's a conspiracy I tell you, a conspiracy! :eek: Or - maybe it is part of the show's byzantine plot, which as local fans will recall has more than one connection to Tallahassee. Suppose it turns out they are not on an island, just lost in Tate's Hell! ;)

I heard a rumor....
Direct TV may be adding WTXL-HD sometime soon..
Can any Direct users confirm?

I just got my directv hooked up today.. So Snap Snap on the ABC HD :D

(I know you have no control jrcstudios)

Has anyone else noticed that whenever WTXL has HD issues it is always during new episodes of "Lost," (which happens to be my favorite show). It's a conspiracy I tell you, a conspiracy! :eek: Or - maybe it is part of the show's byzantine plot, which as local fans will recall has more than one connection to Tallahassee. Suppose it turns out they are not on an island, just lost in Tate's Hell! ;)

It was fine on Comcast this past week. :D

Ross, I have a KDL-46W4100, and I'm still not getting any listings.

You?

~Alan

Short answer NO. My source being Mediacom cable will plead the 4 day flood which by the way reflects their usual executive decisions to locate their Head end in the Sugar Creek swamp. However TVGOS has not worked since SEP of 08, which can not be pinned on the flood.

It was fine on Comcast this past week. :D

Yeah, but they are probably waiting for the season final 2 hour episode before they screw us again! Just you wait! :o

So far, so good during Scrubs. We'll see what happens when LOST starts at 9.

check out this link for all digital coverage
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/

That is pretty cool. You need to zoom in on the map after entering zip code and put the pointer on your actual location before clicking on the channel info. Zip code will place it in a central location for that zip and can make the compass headings off a good bit.

Has anyone else noticed that whenever WTXL has HD issues it is always during new episodes of "Lost," (which happens to be my favorite show). It's a conspiracy I tell you, a conspiracy! :eek: Or - maybe it is part of the show's byzantine plot, which as local fans will recall has more than one connection to Tallahassee. Suppose it turns out they are not on an island, just lost in Tate's Hell! ;)

Can't say I'm a Lost fan but have the same issues with 49 at race time. Can be watching the station and as soon as race coverage begins, bam! the screen is black. Same signal strength is showing too. Edit: at 10:29 PM. For once it didn't cut me off. I guess night time IS the right time. Now if it will just stop updating the channel info I'd be a happy man.

This OTA digital has some bugs but since Direc screwed me I kicked them to da curb and I'll not go back to a dish. I can't get cable.

Comcast experiencing outages of certain HD channels right now.

Channel 401 - Fox Sports Florida HD
Channel 421 - TBS HD
Channel 428 - Fox News Channel HD
Channel 450 - Speed HD
Channel 451 - FX HD

Ok, what is going on enough is enough!! WTXL 27 HD was looking fine untill Lost went off! Break up was real bad then Thurs. morning nothing! Is this a Lake Park, thing?

Ok, what is going on enough is enough!! WTXL 27 HD was looking fine untill Lost went off! Break up was real bad then Thurs. morning nothing! Is this a Lake Park, thing?

NOW do you believe! :eek:

Ok, what is going on enough is enough!! WTXL 27 HD was looking fine untill Lost went off! Break up was real bad then Thurs. morning nothing! Is this a Lake Park, thing?

We, too, lost it during Lost HD LIL. Scrubs was OK HD LIL; we still have breakups OTA
(in SummerBrooke)

Wtwc
Is NBC 40 going to full power and moving from 2 to 40 in hd . Any time frame when it will happen

Wtwc
Is NBC 40 going to full power and moving from 2 to 40 in hd . Any time frame when it will happen

June 12

Ross, I have a KDL-46W4100, and I'm still not getting any listings.

You?

~Alan

UPDATE! UPDATE! Look outside to see if it snowing---My TVGOS is now working. First time since Sep 08. :cool: Alan I assume you have Directv and OTA. Macrovision tech sent me a code and simple instructions on how to jump start the guide. I'm not sure if it will work for OTA as I use Mediacom and also had to "Fool" the TV to use 31601 ZIP rather than my actual 31605 ZIP. If you want the procedure, let me know.;)

Ok, what is going on enough is enough!! WTXL 27 HD was looking fine untill Lost went off! Break up was real bad then Thurs. morning nothing! Is this a Lake Park, thing?

I didn't watch LOST this week, but had no issues with Scrubs, Better Off Ted or Grey's Anatomy. Never seems to be an issue for any show but LOST. I'm beginning to believe the conspiracy.

Still working for me. Are you using Comcast?

Trip in VA gave this link that lists WTLH as the provider (Tallahassee is no. 107):

http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos

My TVGOS is on my Panasonic EH55, so I don't know if that makes a difference. Have you done a new search in setup? I think that may be required. I can take up to 24 hours to start listing programs.

Unfortunately, My TV service comes from Mediacom in Valdosta. You would not believe the run around I have gotten from them and from GA Public Broadcasting who "was" the host. Yes I have done several rescans, entered all kinds of "codes" changed zip codes, etc. I get the channel line up but no program listing data. Anyway glad to hear yours is working properly . Perhaps the guide will eventually filter down to us in the low rent areas.:D

Update! TVGOS is now working!!!! Microvision tech sent me a code and instructions to jump start. 24 hours later---TV Listings. Happy camper.:D

Is the "big change" on 27-2 going to happen on May 1st?
Are we getting close to getting WTXL HD on DirecTV?

Are we getting close to getting WTXL HD on DirecTV?

I wish - I find myself watching less on ABC since switching to DirecTV

jrc go slap management around some for all of us ;)

Is the "big change" on 27-2 going to happen on May 1st?
As of today (May 3), I am still seeing "WTXL SD" on 27-2 instead of weather info. I can only assume that this delay was technical-related.

I wish - I find myself watching less on ABC since switching to DirecTV

jrc go slap management around some for all of us ;)

If I had the authority, I'd work a week for free, doing nothing but that!

As of today (May 3), I am still seeing "WTXL SD" on 27-2 instead of weather info. I can only assume that this delay was technical-related.

NOPE!!! Its not always us!!
It seems that the sales department wanted more flexibility in the way the ads work. We had things ready (and busted *ss to do it) on Thursday. Now its up to the system provider to sooth the cries from sales.

The new start date is May 18th.

--JRC

For the last two weeks, my DVR'd version of The Biggest Loser has had no sound with the picture. But when I watch the program (Law & Order) after it in real time, the sound works fine. All of my other DVR shows record fine. And The Apprentice has recorded fine the past two Sundays. Any ideas? Is it a local issue?

NOPE!!! Its not always us!!
It seems that the sales department wanted more flexibility in the way the ads work. We had things ready (and busted *ss to do it) on Thursday. Now its up to the system provider to sooth the cries from sales.

The new start date is May 18th.

--JRC

Ad sales sales would be up it WTXL HD was available on DirecTV!

Ad sales sales would be up it WTXL HD was available on DirecTV!
I'm sure he'd love too, especially the post he made about four posts before this one states (again) that he hasn't the authority. :(

I hope all of the regulars of this thread know where jrc stands in this ordeal.

Any chance they'll be adding the CW in HD anytime soon? The picture on that channel is downright abysmal. It goes in and out of color, there are green dots floating around from time to time. It's the worst channel on the entire lineup.

Any chance they'll be adding the CW in HD anytime soon?

Can't comment on the picture quality issue, but I seriously doubt you will see anything HD out of the CW in your area. As WTLF-DT is an affiliate of CW+, their feed comes directly off a satellite dish. That feed comes to them in SD and is currently not available in HD at all. To do HD would require them to effectively build out an entire HD-capable TV station, which is not a cost-effective option for a pre-packaged service like CW+.

- Trip

Can't comment on the picture quality issue, but I seriously doubt you will see anything HD out of the CW in your area. As WTLF-DT is an affiliate of CW+, their feed comes directly off a satellite dish. That feed comes to them in SD and is currently not available in HD at all. To do HD would require them to effectively build out an entire HD-capable TV station, which is not a cost-effective option for a pre-packaged service like CW+.

- Trip
If there's a FAQ document for Tally HD questions, this would make a good entry. Thanks, Trip!

NOPE!!! Its not always us!!
It seems that the sales department wanted more flexibility in the way the ads work. We had things ready (and busted *ss to do it) on Thursday. Now its up to the system provider to sooth the cries from sales.

The new start date is May 18th.

--JRC
can't beleive money is more important than weather on wtxl dtv 2 weather now to protect people & property . Get it together or else wctv will still be the leader .

can't beleive money is more important than weather on wtxl dtv 2 weather now to protect people & property . Get it together or else wctv will still be the leader .

WCTV the leader.. of what 2.0 audio and non HD news.. :p

WCTV the leader.. of what 2.0 audio and non HD news.. :p

I think marty was referring to the Neilsen ratings but I'm unsure whether WCTV actually leads that.

i was talking about the weather with wctv being the leader all these years . If wtxl don't soon launch that weather on 27-2 someone else might beat them to the draw. Also does anyone know where you can find a list of the local neilsen ratings on the internet or can someone post them on avs forum

I have noticed something I did not before on Comcast Tallahassee - in previous years when I was getting Comcast HD I noticed the "analog" channels below 100 had poor PQ and looked better on my TV's tuner, but that has changed. Now most if not all of those non-digital channels look better (less video noise) on the Comcast tuner and I am curious as to what changed to make that improvement? Is it because they stopped converting them to analog at the head end so that those with digital tuners would get them without any digital to analog quality loss? Or did they do something in the DVR firmware to improve PQ on those channels? Anyone know the answer?

Digital under. Many of the analog channels on Comcast are also sent as digital. Your tv tuner won't see them as that channel number, but if you do a scan you should see them around the 70s (if your tv does qam). The cable box or DVR can be programmed by Comcast to go to the digital channel when you tune to what you think is the analog channel. This will not, however, fix the poor video if it started out bad; like cw here in Tallytown.

Skip weekend
all these sation's came in the weekend on Friday nite between 9-10 pm in cairo ga on my terk hd a indoor antenna
wuft-Gainsville,wbbh-Tampa,wogx-Gainsville,wedu-Ft Myers & wrxy-Ft Myers. Some came in a while while others were just a quick skip.
Marty

Digital under. Many of the analog channels on Comcast are also sent as digital. Your tv tuner won't see them as that channel number, but if you do a scan you should see them around the 70s (if your tv does qam). The cable box or DVR can be programmed by Comcast to go to the digital channel when you tune to what you think is the analog channel. This will not, however, fix the poor video if it started out bad; like cw here in Tallytown.

Thanks, I suspected something like that. So why is CW so crappy? And why is its audio on Smallville always messed up?

Question for JRCStudios - what happened with the audio on "Desperate Housewives" last Sunday? The first 30 minutes were garbled, then it dropped out of HD and broadcast in english and spanish simultaneously (a neat trick) before finally getting things right. Since WTXL always seems to have the biggest problems with it's highest rated 9PM prime time shows I am begging you to closely monitor "Lost" this Wednesday as it is the final season episode and I really really want to enjoy it without any problems. Thanks in advance.

Can't comment on the picture quality issue, but I seriously doubt you will see anything HD out of the CW in your area.

I can't get WTLF-DT (24-1) anyway, but I always assumed that I would be able to eventually get The CW in HD from WLGA-DT in Columbus one day, but WLGA lost their affiliation with The CW to WLTZ-DT in Columbus... meaning that I can't get the CW in HD from the Albany, GA DMA, the Columbus, GA DMA or the Tallahassee, FL DMA.

I can catch up on "Smallville" and "Supernatural" on Blu-ray, but I simply ignore a couple of other shows I like on The CW due to not being able to get their programming in HD.

~Alan

Question for JRCStudios - what happened with the audio on "Desperate Housewives" last Sunday? The first 30 minutes were garbled, then it dropped out of HD and broadcast in english and spanish simultaneously (a neat trick) before finally getting things right. Since WTXL always seems to have the biggest problems with it's highest rated 9PM prime time shows I am begging you to closely monitor "Lost" this Wednesday as it is the final season episode and I really really want to enjoy it without any problems. Thanks in advance.

I watch "Castle" on WTXL-DT recorded via my TiVo Series 3 HD-DVR... hooked up to a SDTV, and it's always hard to hear the dialogue on this show... which I'm assuming is the fault of the show... and not WTXL-DT, but to make matters worse, the CC (Closed Captioning) is almost ALWAYS garbled. Last night's Season Finale was the best the CC's ever done, but it still had MAJOR problems. I don't know if this is an issue with any other show on WTXL-DT, but has anybody else noticed this?

~Alan

I have heard WTXL-DT is live today on DirecTV in high definition. I have not been home since hearing this but has anyone else seen this?

i have heard wtxl-dt is live today on directv in high definition. I have not been home since hearing this but has anyone else seen this?

Yes! Yes! Yes!! :)

I have heard WTXL-DT is live today on DirecTV in high definition. I have not been home since hearing this but has anyone else seen this?

...and there was much rejoicing!!! :)

I have to admit I had nearly given up on this happening. Then I read this thread and checked it out for myself. Now I have to decide if it's worth the protection from rain fade to keep my antenna up (admittedly it doesn't work too well pulling in WFSU-HD most of the time).

Why couldn't somebody have called me and let me know so I could have fixed my Lost recording? :)

I have heard WTXL-DT is live today on DirecTV in high definition. I have not been home since hearing this but has anyone else seen this?

Just in time for the LOST finale, which was great. And it didn't got out once, as it has with the OTA. If only the CW would at least improve their SD. Oh well, Smallville and Supernatural are done tomorrow for a few months, maybe by next season the CW won't suck so hard in quality.

Why couldn't somebody have called me and let me know so I could have fixed my Lost recording? :)
Hehe I actually have two copies of tonight's Lost (I'm gettin' paranoid). If you need er, assistance, send me a shout.

Woohoo!!!

I watch "Castle" on WTXL-DT recorded via my TiVo Series 3 HD-DVR... hooked up to a SDTV, and it's always hard to hear the dialogue on this show... which I'm assuming is the fault of the show... and not WTXL-DT, but to make matters worse, the CC (Closed Captioning) is almost ALWAYS garbled. Last night's Season Finale was the best the CC's ever done, but it still had MAJOR problems. I don't know if this is an issue with any other show on WTXL-DT, but has anybody else noticed this?

~Alan

I noticed last year that many if not most of the ABC prime time dramas have their 5.1 audio mixed very aggressively with regard to ambience and music in the LR and surrounds, which can make hearing dialogue a problem if you use a surround sound system. This seems to be a network-wide approach since it applies to so many ABC shows but not other networks. Fortunately, this has never been a problem on "Lost," which has been an exception in that regard, but I figure they just take more care with that show. For those using a surround system for audio it is critical that all speaker levels be set properly and you might even want to boost the center channel slightly. If your processor has a THX "TV" setting or other setting to enhance dialogue that will help a bit also I found. Otherwise some viewer feedback to ABC might help.

Anyone getting pixelation problems with NBC with DirecTV tonight?

Anyone getting pixelation problems with NBC with DirecTV tonight?

We had pixelation problems with NBC on both DISH and OTA...

WTXL officially launched its 24/7 weather channel today. The channel features weather from WTXL and national weather from Accuweather.com WTXL is now an affiliate of the Local Accuweather Channel. You can find this new channel on the following channel positions.

OTA

Digital Channel 27.2

Cable

Comcast Digital Channel 209.

The service launched sometime between 2:00-4:00 this afternoon.

Full Power
Cant wait to see if all stations will run full power when the analog shut off happens.

Full Power
Cant wait to see if all stations will run full power when the analog shut off happens.
June 12th, we hope! Only WTWC NBC going to channel 40, AFAIK. The other three major network affiliates' permanent DTV facilities have already started.

Also, keep in eye on this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16527980#post16527980) as foxeng listed the first stations to receive the new Fox splicer in early June. WTLH is not on that list but maybe it'll come soon.

UPDATE! UPDATE! Look outside to see if it snowing---My TVGOS is now working. First time since Sep 08. :cool: Alan I assume you have Directv and OTA. Macrovision tech sent me a code and simple instructions on how to jump start the guide. I'm not sure if it will work for OTA as I use Mediacom and also had to "Fool" the TV to use 31601 ZIP rather than my actual 31605 ZIP. If you want the procedure, let me know.;)

Thanks! I tried setting up the TV to use 31601, and I started getting guide information for the Tallahassee, FL channels.... so I then tried a Albany zip code, but I can only get guide information for the Albany channels... so it appears that the TVGOS only displays guide information for your own DMA... instead of geographic reception... sucks, but at least it's something.

I noticed last year that many if not most of the ABC prime time dramas have their 5.1 audio mixed very aggressively with regard to ambience and music in the LR and surrounds, which can make hearing dialogue a problem if you use a surround sound system. This seems to be a network-wide approach since it applies to so many ABC shows but not other networks. Fortunately, this has never been a problem on "Lost," which has been an exception in that regard, but I figure they just take more care with that show. For those using a surround system for audio it is critical that all speaker levels be set properly and you might even want to boost the center channel slightly. If your processor has a THX "TV" setting or other setting to enhance dialogue that will help a bit also I found. Otherwise some viewer feedback to ABC might help.

It took me a while to reply to this one as well, BUT while I watch the majority of my ABC programming (which isn't very much at the moment) on a HDTV paired with a 7.1 surround sound system, I watch "Castle", the show I was referring to, on a 50-inch SDTV using the TV speakers. I don't have this problem on any other show/channel, and I was curious if this was an issue with the show, or an issue with WTXL-DT as I watch other ABC programs via a different avenue and have no issues with them.

I also had issues with the CC (Closed Captioning) on the show via WTXL-DT... which I tried due to the difficultly understanding what they were saying sometimes...

June 12th, we hope! Only WTWC NBC going to channel 40, AFAIK. The other three major network affiliates' permanent DTV facilities have already started.

Not necessarily!

WTLHFOXHD, any word on your possible power increase?

Also, keep in eye on this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16527980#post16527980) as foxeng listed the first stations to receive the new Fox splicer in early June. WTLH is not on that list but maybe it'll come soon.

Wow! They're certainly not going in DMA # since WJKT-DT's (Jackson, TN) getting it installed next Thursday.... still, great news that it's coming soon...

~Alan<~~~~~~Who was born in Jackson, TN....

Full Power
Cant wait to see if all stations will run full power when the analog shut off happens.

Use Trip's site, it shows what has been approved and pending

http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?mktid=132

WTWC-DT has filed with the FCC to specify that they're going to sign on DT-40 at 420 kW until they can finish the equipment for the 1000 kW.

- Trip

It took me a while to reply to this one as well, BUT while I watch the majority of my ABC programming (which isn't very much at the moment) on a HDTV paired with a 7.1 surround sound system, I watch "Castle", the show I was referring to, on a 50-inch SDTV using the TV speakers. I don't have this problem on any other show/channel, and I was curious if this was an issue with the show, or an issue with WTXL-DT as I watch other ABC programs via a different avenue and have no issues with them.

~Alan<~~~~~~Who was born in Jackson, TN....

Whil watching the NBA Western Conference Finals on ABC, the dialogue from the commentating is definitely hard to hear when the game is going on. Pre-game, half-time, and post-game stuff are fine since the crowd/game noise are subdued. It's pretty annoying actually. I have a 5.1 system and really don't feel like adjusting the center speaker just for that reason, but I may have to since the finals will be broadcasted on ABC.

Whil watching the NBA Western Conference Finals on ABC, the dialogue from the commentating is definitely hard to hear when the game is going on. Pre-game, half-time, and post-game stuff are fine since the crowd/game noise are subdued. It's pretty annoying actually. Ihave a 5.1 system and really don't feel like adjusting the center speaker just for that reason, but I may have to since the finals will be broadcasted on ABC.

It was never entirely clear to me whether it was an issue at ABC or at WTXL (or both), especially when after I complained here things did get better with the worst shows (Ugly Betty, Grey's Anatomy, Pushing Daisies, Lost on Mars) implying WTXL fixed something and so did have some blame. There was a similar issue with "The Middleman" that cute quirky show that went away all too soon on ABC Family. But if others here hear it on other stations then WTXL is now off the hook. And since other shows, like "Lost" are fine, I think maybe it is an issue at ABC and whoever mixes the audio on certain shows. Maybe the shows I list above all share audio engineering, and maybe Lost uses a different (and better) audio engineer? Beats me. Maybe JCRstudios could comment and if necessary pass our concerns along to ABC HQ.

Anyone having audio issues with WCTV? It works fine OTA, but through DTV there's no sound at all.

Anyone having audio issues with WCTV? It works fine OTA, but through DTV there's no sound at all.

Yes, WCTV had issues Wed afternoon with OTA, DirecTV and Charter. So it is issues with WCTV.
10:15 pm CSI:NY
Audio with WCTV SD on DirecTV is working.
Audio with WCTV OTA is working.
Audio with WCTV HD on DirecTV is not working.

What is this I hear about Comcast increasing their prices? Was it for cable or Internet - or both? My bill didn't go up, but a couple of my co-workers did. I have the DSL grade Internet connection and Limited Basic Cable.

What is this I hear about Comcast increasing their prices? Was it for cable or Internet - or both? My bill didn't go up, but a couple of my co-workers did. I have the DSL grade Internet connection and Limited Basic Cable.

Comcast Tallahassee continued their annual screw-the-customer marketing approach and raised their TV rates by about 6-47% depending on what you have. HD DVR rental went from $13.95 to $15.95 (>14%) for example. The cost for an unreturned EMTA modem (whatever that is) went up 47% from $69 to $102! Internet service is the same I think. Aint it nice to have (essentially) a monopoly? I would hope that as soon as the satellite providers give us HD on all local channels there will be a stampede in their direction.

I would hope that as soon as the satellite providers give us HD on all local channels there will be a stampede in their direction.

DirecTV now has WCTV, WTXL, WTWC, and WTLH available now. Last I heard, WFSU was still uplinked, but not available.

I believe Dish Network also has the four listed above. Dish Network doesn't really offer PBS in HD outside of a couple of markets, so it may be a while for WFSU in HD via them.

~Alan

DirecTV now has WCTV, WTXL, WTWC, and WTLH available now. Last I heard, WFSU was still uplinked, but not available.

I believe Dish Network also has the four listed above. Dish Network doesn't really offer PBS in HD outside of a couple of markets, so it may be a while for WFSU in HD via them.

~Alan

I assume DirecTV gives us the local, non HD, CW channel and not a direct feed from CW, but do they also give you the screwed up audio as well? CW on Comcast through their HD DVR is watchable but the audio remains unlistenable using a surround sound system. If only someone somewhere would balance the stereo signal between the LR audio channels on CW and/or use a decoder that works properly (and is calibrated properly).

I assume DirecTV gives us the local, non HD, CW channel and not a direct feed from CW, but do they also give you the screwed up audio as well?

This is correct. They offer WTLF on channel 24.

DirecTV (and Dish Network) offers a SD CW affiliate in markets they serve with local channels... but neither one HD at this time. DirecTV also offers a DNS option for The CW for those of us without LIL, but alas no HD option yet.

Honestly, I'm not sure how much I even care anymore. "Smallville" and "Supernatural" seasons are released on Blu-ray, "Reaper" is kaput (for all intents and purposes), as well as "Privileged", so the only things I even care about seeing in HD is the upcoming "The Vampire Diaries" that I can't get months later is the upcoming series, "The Vampire Diaries"... and perhaps "Gossip Girl".

~Alan

WTWC-DT on (real) channel 40 is here.

Can we all get a moment of silence.
The TV era that we all grew up with is over.



Now the new era begins.

WTWC-DT on (real) channel 40 is here.
It's coming in strong here in Albany...I'm watching hockey on it right now.:)

Analog TV is dead-long live DTV.

Anyone here in the Valodsta area with a DB8 antenna able to pick up WALB after the switch. I was recieving at 100% when on channel 17, now nothing. Any suggestions on a good small VHF antenna.

Anyone here in the Valodsta area with a DB8 antenna able to pick up WALB after the switch. I was recieving at 100% when on channel 17, now nothing. Any suggestions on a good small VHF antenna.

I'm in Lake Park. Now getting WTWC 40.1. But, still get 0 on WALB 10.1

I'm in Lake Park. Now getting WTWC 40.1. But, still get 0 on WALB 10.1

WALB-DT has been broadcasting on 10-3 and 10-4 today according to my HDTV... which means that those of us with DirecTV HR2x HD-DVRs are SOL for tuning in WALB-DT (and WALB-DT2).

The good news is that for a brief time today, WALB-DT was broadcasting both channels correctly on 10-1 and 10-2... which worked fine with my HR23-700 and AM21 (though I did redo antenna setup before I could get WTWC-DT and WALB-DT to work). Unfotunately, my TiVo Series 3 still won't tune WTWC-DT or WALB-DT yet...

BTW, what the heck is up with WTWC-DT's SD programming? WALB-DT's upconverted SD can look fantastic, but I saw some of WTWC-DT's upconverted SD today and it looked horrible... some of the worse I have seen on multiple local stations.

Oh yeah, WALB-DT was broadcasting Conan in SD tonight? Between the mapping issues and the lack of Conan in HD, I'm wondering if they are having issues.

~Alan

WTWC-DT on (real) channel 40 is here.

Anyone else having success getting their Tivo's to recognize 40-1 or 40-2? My TV tunes them in fine, but Tivo refuses.

WALB-DT has been broadcasting on 10-3 and 10-4 today according to my HDTV... which means that those of us with DirecTV HR2x HD-DVRs are SOL for tuning in WALB-DT (and WALB-DT2).

The good news is that for a brief time today, WALB-DT was broadcasting both channels correctly on 10-1 and 10-2... which worked fine with my HR23-700 and AM21 (though I did redo antenna setup before I could get WTWC-DT and WALB-DT to work). Unfotunately, my TiVo Series 3 still won't tune WTWC-DT or WALB-DT yet...

WALB-DT (and -DT2) is now mapping correctly to 10-1 and 10-2, and best of all, DirecTV HD receivers as well as TiVo HD-DVRs are now trying to tune to WALB-DT (and -DT2) on RF channel 10. The bad news is that you might have to re-run antenna setup again, and then re-start the unit on top of that. You might want to try restarting first, then doing the other.

Anyone else having success getting their Tivo's to recognize 40-1 or 40-2? My TV tunes them in fine, but Tivo refuses.

Check and make sure your TiVo is trying to tune to RF channel 40 instead of RF channel 2. Mine "called out" this morning and is now (along with my DirecTV HD-DVRs) trying to receive WTWC-DT on 40 like it should be, but I'm still getting a black screen (on my TiVo Series 3) on 40-1... which is the problem I had with WALB-DT on my DirecTV HD-DVRs prior to restarting them. Interestingly enough, I didn't have that problem with WTWC-DT on my DirecTV HD-DVR, and I didn't have that problem with WALB-DT on my TiVo Series 3.

I may try restarting the TiVo Series 3 later on today to see if I can "fix" WTWC-DT's issue.

~Alan

Wfsu
Why does Wfsu shut down 11-3,11-4 at 6:00 pm ? The other Florida pbs leave those stations on

The truth is out. Stations can adjust the computer to daypart the power levels at different times on the Hd transmitters. Interesting

Still not getting WALB in Lake Park. But I am getting WDHN (?) on 18.1

Anyone else having success getting their Tivo's to recognize 40-1 or 40-2? My TV tunes them in fine, but Tivo refuses.

No issue on my series 2.

I am however having a LOT of trouble getting WTLH and CW either WTLF (4.5 miles away) or WFXU (25.8 miles away with WTLH). I'm in Northwest Tallahasse, near I-10. Anyone else have trouble with WTLH? I thought I saw somewhere that they were talking about more power, but don't know. I don't understand it. Seems like I should be seeing it fine since I'm seeing WCTV and they're what I think is feet away from the WTLH tower.

I did, however start to see WMBB 13.1 and 13.2 out of Panama City. That's pretty far away, so I was surprised to be seeing it with my Winegard MS-2000!

Any info would be good. I'm pretty new with all this DTV stuff, just got fed up with Comcast. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Alan Gordon;16649169]WALB-DT (and -DT2) is now mapping correctly to 10-1 and 10-2, and best of all, DirecTV HD receivers as well as TiVo HD-DVRs are now trying to tune to WALB-DT (and -DT2) on RF channel 10. The bad news is that you might have to re-run antenna setup again, and then re-start the unit on top of that. You might want to try restarting first, then doing the other.


I just tried forcing a network connection, restarting the machine and rescanning for channels but no luck on 40-1 or 40-2. Have you gotten Tivo to recognize those stations yet?

WFXU-DT is not on the air and is not co-located with WTLH-DT, though that was the plan at one point in the past.

The station was sold to a new owner who's applied to stick the transmitter near Gainesville.

- Trip

Wfsu
Why does Wfsu shut down 11-3,11-4 at 6:00 pm ? The other Florida pbs leave those stations on

Do they now. And how does the HD look when they do?
We have ancient equipment that will not do 3 SD and 1 HD at the same time. I can do 2 SD and 1 HD, but the HD suffers. No, digital is not supposed to go to blocking or freeze or stumble audio. That's an error just like snow was in analog days. I have a 60" at home and I do not want to see those artifacts on the station when I'm watching. Jeez, some of the commercial stations have trouble doing 1 HD + 1 SD (think watching football on 6 when there's a lot of movement on 6-2 -- ain't pretty)

BTW, 11-4, the Florida Knowledge Network, is not doing programing at night so you do not lose anything.

I'm having the same issues with WTWC 40.1 and 40.2 on my TiVo HD. It says its looking to RF 40, and if I run the signal strength meter, it comes in at near 100%, but I still have a black screen and no audio. I have rerun the guided setup and restarted the box with no luck.

Has anybody gotten a TiVo series 3 or HD box to pickup WTWC?

WCTV (CBS 6.1) now has 5.1 audio

WCTV (CBS 6.1) now has 5.1 audio
Yes it is. Should've figured about the timing...

Still not getting WALB in Lake Park. But I am getting WDHN (?) on 18.1

WDHN-DT is the Dothan, AL ABC affiliate. I get them fairly often, but not as much as WTVY-DT (the CBS affiliate) owned by Gray (ala WCTV).

No issue on my series 2.

How are you getting 40-1 and 40-2 on your Series 2?

I just tried forcing a network connection, restarting the machine and rescanning for channels but no luck on 40-1 or 40-2. Have you gotten Tivo to recognize those stations yet?

No! Still a STRONG signal, but just a black screen.

WFXU-DT is not on the air and is not co-located with WTLH-DT, though that was the plan at one point in the past.

Interestingly enough, this channel (WFXU-DT) was recently added to the Tallahassee OTA lineup on DirecTV HD receivers (as well as TiVo Series 3 and TiVo HD models).

WCTV (CBS 6.1) now has 5.1 audio

SWEET! I was hoping that stations might invest in their infrastructure once the transition was completed.

What about WSWG-DT? I'm hoping that they will upgrade as well so when DirecTV FINALLY offers HD-LIL here, that I won't have to use OTA to record CBS programming just to get DD5.1?

~Alan

How are you getting 40-1 and 40-2 on your Series 2?~Alan

Via a ChannelMaster 7000 D2A box. 40-1 and 40-2 are showing up as potential channels in the TiVo setup for me.

My bigger problem is WTLH. Don't know why I'm not able to get them. It's driving me nuts!

What about WSWG-DT? I'm hoping that they will upgrade as well so when DirecTV FINALLY offers HD-LIL here, that I won't have to use OTA to record CBS programming just to get DD5.1?

~Alan
I checked briefly during Y&R and my TV tuner stated that it was 5.1.

WCTV (CBS 6.1) now has 5.1 audio

I don't see any indication of 5.1 on either one of my recivers from WCTV 6.1.

I don't see any indication of 5.1 on either one of my recivers from WCTV 6.1.

DD 2.0 here on mine during "The Big Bang Theory" as well...

~Alan

Do they now. And how does the HD look when they do?
We have ancient equipment that will not do 3 SD and 1 HD at the same time. I can do 2 SD and 1 HD, but the HD suffers. No, digital is not supposed to go to blocking or freeze or stumble audio. That's an error just like snow was in analog days. I have a 60" at home and I do not want to see those artifacts on the station when I'm watching. Jeez, some of the commercial stations have trouble doing 1 HD + 1 SD (think watching football on 6 when there's a lot of movement on 6-2 -- ain't pretty)

BTW, 11-4, the Florida Knowledge Network, is not doing programing at night so you do not lose anything.WPBT in Miami (1 HD, 2 SD), WXEL in West Palm Beach (1 HD, 2 SD), and WGCU in Fort Myers (1 HD, 3 SD) do HD 24/7 with subchannels. WLRN in Miami has 1 HD and 1 SD. All of these look ok, with WGCU doing some updates recently that makes all 4 channels look pretty darn good.

I don't see any indication of 5.1 on either one of my recivers from WCTV 6.1.

About 11 minutes into The Price is Right the picture and audio went out about 15 seconds. Came back on with 5.1 audio then during Y&R or right after audio went back to 2.0. Maybe they were doing some testing?

About 11 minutes into The Price is Right the picture and audio went out about 15 seconds. Came back on with 5.1 audio then during Y&R or right after audio went back to 2.0. Maybe they were doing some testing?


That thought did occur to me earlier...

Certainly would explain things.

~Alan

Can anyone tell me if WFSU digital stayed on channel 32 after the analog shutdown?

Thanks!

Can anyone tell me if WFSU digital stayed on channel 32 after the analog shutdown?

Thanks!

Yes, it stayed on 32.

- Trip

I emailed Tivo over the weekend with the channel lineup issue for WTWC and got a response last night that the issue had been resolved.

But as of last night I still could not get Tivo to tune it in. Forced network connection, restarted Tivo and rescanned channels -- no luck. ANyone else get it working?

WCTV (CBS 6.1) now has 5.1 audio

Not on my equipment.

Isn't DD 5.1 only going to be transmitted when it is included in the source signal? Many ads and local inserts or reruns of old Andy Griffith shows are not going to have 5.1 soundtracks. CBS prime time shows should be 5.1 of course. I don't watch much CBS prime time other than Ghost Whisperer and The Mentalist, though I will be watching Medium when it moves to CBS this fall.

I emailed Tivo over the weekend with the channel lineup issue for WTWC and got a response last night that the issue had been resolved.

But as of last night I still could not get Tivo to tune it in. Forced network connection, restarted Tivo and rescanned channels -- no luck. ANyone else get it working?

Nope. I called them on Monday and they gave me the standard "5 to 7 days to be resolved" spiel. But still nothing after a repeated guided setup and a restart.

Isn't DD 5.1 only going to be transmitted when it is included in the source signal? Many ads and local inserts or reruns of old Andy Griffith shows are not going to have 5.1 soundtracks. CBS prime time shows should be 5.1 of course. I don't watch much CBS prime time other than Ghost Whisperer and The Mentalist, though I will be watching Medium when it moves to CBS this fall.

I have watched network things that say 5.1 where available. They are not.

Walb reply ref power

We are running at a power level adequate for reception with a quality VHF outdoor antenna with a mast height of 20 to 30 feet. You should be sure that your antenna is a VHF antenna. There have been a tremendous amount of “DTV” antennas sold that are UHF only. There have been a high number of “DTV” antennas sold that say VHF/UHF that actually reduce the VHF signal level. I highly recommend that you use a good quality combo antenna that receives both VHF and UHF with a gain of at least 6 to 10 dB for both the VHF and the UHF.



While we have a number of calls and emails stating that reception isn’t adequate for some particular area, we have other calls and emails stating how well we are being received, as far away as 60 miles or more in all directions from the transmitter near Doerun, GA. The difference is that some viewers have been fortunate enough to pick the better antennas, converters, and receivers. For those that haven’t, they may have to try different equipment. We will be doubling our power very soon, but if you are not receiving us now, in Thomasville, doubling of our power is not likely to make much difference for you. The doubling of the power is to take our coverage from a 50 mile service radius to a 65 mile service radius. Thomasville is well within the current 50 mile radius, and many, many viewers are receiving us there and into Monticello, FL with no problems.



The FCC has also given the consumer alert below. There is a lot of faulty equipment being sold. The FCC alert might have some help for you . Also, please be sure you have a good VHF antenna. If your converter is Magnavox, it could be a problem. There are also several other converters and some receivers with POOR performance.





CONSUMER ALERT Federal Communications Commission

445 12th Street, S.W.

Washington, D. C. 20554

This is an unofficial announcement of Commission action. Release of the full text of a Commission order constitutes official action.

See MCI v. FCC. 515 F 2d 385 (D.C. Circ 1974).

News Media Information 202 / 418-0500

Internet: http://www.fcc.gov

TTY: 1-888-835-5322

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: NEWS MEDIA CONTACT:

June 15, 2009 Rick Kaplan, 202-418-1728

Email: rick.kaplan@fcc.gov

Mark Wigfield 202-418-0253

Email: mark.wigfield@fcc.gov

Not on my equipment.

They are working on it. Will be "very soon".

Comcast is getting rid of the "old" style HD DVRs with the oval designs and replacing them with the newer models with the plain flat silver front. That is bad news for those like me who use the S-video output to make DVD-R copies of shows. I say that because I had one of those new models a while back and returned it because the S-video output on it was very poor compared to the older models. Last Saturday I had to return a DVR that had died one me twice and they tried to give me the "new" model. I said no so they gave me what they said was the last (at the moment) of the old style DVRs - one of the earliest models actually. It is dented and scratched but I don't care because it puts out an excellent S-video signal. As for the new model I suppose Motorola decided that no one would be using the S-video output and cares not how poorly it performs. Sooner or later I will have to get a new model DVR so I will ask here if anyone knows of a good but affordable (<$100) component to S-video converter?

They are working on it. Will be "very soon".
At least you got in contact with them. Do they have any other plans beyond 5.1?

At least you got in contact with them. Do they have any other plans beyond 5.1?

Can't say for sure. But, the next thing would be local news in HD. ;)

Can't say for sure. But, the next thing would be local news in HD. ;)
Hmm....
Next thing you know they will finally get the equipment to do HD syndication. :eek:

Hmm....
Next thing you know they will finally get the equipment to do HD syndication. :eek:


I am not aware of anyone locally doing that yet, and I doubt if they will spend the money to do so now since so much syndicated material is SD or they will only pay for the SD version instead of the HD version. The only syndicated shows I have seen lately in HD are reruns of Lost and Eureka(ironically on the SF HD channel which usually avoids HD whenever they can), Monk on Universal HD, and Gilmore Girls (on ABC Family). There are probably others but it irritates me that so many HD channels prefer to broadcast shows in SD even when they originated in HD.

Hmm....
Next thing you know they will finally get the equipment to do HD syndication. :eek:

That will be the last thing, because of what dsmith901 said is true.

Believe it or not, WTXL does have syndicated HD programs. Very few of them: Regis & Kelly and Comics Unleashed, but WTXL is capable.

I have seen WTXL with syndicated HD programs. WCTV, WTWC, and WTLH do not have that capability yet. WFSU does have it as has been posted here previously. Hopefully WCTV, WTWC, and WTLH can find a way to make HD happen. ACC football/basketball, Wheel of Fortune/Jeopardy, and Two and Half Men are all good syndicated HD programs.

Hopefully WCTV, WTWC, and WTLH can find a way to make HD happen.
They're called "wealthy videophile benefactors". :p

Sooner or later I will have to get a new model DVR so I will ask here if anyone knows of a good but affordable (<$100) component to S-video converter?

I'm not sure that's even possible?

~Alan<~~~~~Who could be wrong...

I am not aware of anyone locally doing that yet, and I doubt if they will spend the money to do so now since so much syndicated material is SD or they will only pay for the SD version instead of the HD version.

Actually:

WCTV offers multiple programs available in HD:
Oprah Winfrey (HD), Wheel Of Fortune (HD), Jeopardy (HD), CSI: NY (HD), CSI: Miami (HD)

Since it's been said that WTXL-DT offers HD syndication, and I'm not aware of what they do, and do not offer in HD, I'll skip them other than to say that there are more syndicated programs available to them than was mentioned.

WTWC offers multiple programs available in HD:
Dr. Phil (HD), Entertainment Tonight (HD), The Insider (HD), Ellen DeGeneres Show (HD)

WTLH offers multiple programs available in HD:
Seinfeld (HD), Two And A Half Men (HD), Everybody Loves Raymond (HD), Legend Of The Seeker (HD), Star Trek (HD)

The only syndicated shows I have seen lately in HD are reruns of Lost and Eureka(ironically on the SF HD channel which usually avoids HD whenever they can), Monk on Universal HD, and Gilmore Girls (on ABC Family). There are probably others but it irritates me that so many HD channels prefer to broadcast shows in SD even when they originated in HD.

:rolleyes:

About the only thing SciFi doesn't air in HD that is available in HD are shows that they don't have the rights to ("Star Trek: Enterprise" which is owned by HDNet, "Wolf Lake", which is owned by HDNet) and the occasional movie here and there.

Other than movies and a few sports programs, UniversalHD is strictly syndicated programming, and ALL of it is in HD (click HERE for schedule (http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCSGrid.do?stnNum=34763&channel=259)).

All of ABC Family's original programming is in HD, as well as "What I Like About You", "The 700 Club", "My Wife And Kids", and "Gilmore Girls"... as well as multiple movies. Other than the occasional movie, the only time time ABC Family is NOT in HD is when the program isn't available in HD.

~Alan

Full Power
Are all the local stations all at full power at this time.

I'm not sure that's even possible?

~Alan<~~~~~Who could be wrong...

It is very possible and some pro units do it for $400-$1,000. After a little searching I found this unit for just $129 but I don't know how well it works, and it has no adjustable features. I have asked them if it maintains widescreen aspect or how that is handled - no reply yet. Here it is, and if anyone has any experience with it I would appreciate their feedback:

http://www.svideo.com/ypbpr1080i.html

Full Power
Are all the local stations all at full power at this time.

How about WALB?

Actually:

WCTV offers multiple programs available in HD:
Oprah Winfrey (HD), Wheel Of Fortune (HD), Jeopardy (HD), CSI: NY (HD), CSI: Miami (HD)

Since it's been said that WTXL-DT offers HD syndication, and I'm not aware of what they do, and do not offer in HD, I'll skip them other than to say that there are more syndicated programs available to them than was mentioned.

WTWC offers multiple programs available in HD:
Dr. Phil (HD), Entertainment Tonight (HD), The Insider (HD), Ellen DeGeneres Show (HD)

WTLH offers multiple programs available in HD:
Seinfeld (HD), Two And A Half Men (HD), Everybody Loves Raymond (HD), Legend Of The Seeker (HD), Star Trek (HD)



:rolleyes:

About the only thing SciFi doesn't air in HD that is available in HD are shows that they don't have the rights to ("Star Trek: Enterprise" which is owned by HDNet, "Wolf Lake", which is owned by HDNet) and the occasional movie here and there.

Other than movies and a few sports programs, UniversalHD is strictly syndicated programming, and ALL of it is in HD (click HERE for schedule (http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCSGrid.do?stnNum=34763&channel=259)).

All of ABC Family's original programming is in HD, as well as "The 700 Club", "My Wife And Kids", and "Gilmore Girls"... as well as multiple movies. Other than the occasional movie and "What I Like About You", the only time time ABC Family is NOT in HD is when the program isn't available in HD.

~Alan
I don't watch most of those syndicated programs, but I've noticed that my DirecTV feed does not carry Entertainment Tonight or the Insider in HD. I've got the full HD package from DTV. Are other DTV HD subscribers getting these programs in HD?

I don't watch most of those syndicated programs, but I've noticed that my DirecTV feed does not carry Entertainment Tonight or the Insider in HD. I've got the full HD package from DTV. Are other DTV HD subscribers getting these programs in HD?
Other D* (not DTV, that's Digital TV here in AVS) subs may have them in their local area wherever their local stations carry HD syndicated programs.

For Tally-area D* subs, they'd only see syndicated HD programming from WTXL at the moment just like everyone else.

It is very possible and some pro units do it for $400-$1,000.

That explains it... as I've only tried some cheapo switchers and receivers...

Not an issue for me anymore though as DirecTV's newer HD receivers output video simultaneously out of all outputs (HDMI, Component, S-Video, Composite)...


Q850, Clarence answered your question. DirecTV can only offer you the programs in HD that the local stations offer in HD. As the local stations add programming in HD, it will be there in HD on DirecTV.

~Alan

Anyone in South Georgia having any luck getting WALB. I bought a Channel Master 4228HD antenna and was able to pick it up last night at around 54%. But today it was out all day until about 6:00 PM, then went out again about 11:00 PM. I was told by the engineer that some time in July they should be at full power. Anyone have an update. Are they making changes during the day.
I can pick up Fox 31 at about 65-70% all day with no drop-outs. What is funny, si that they broadcast from the same tower and Fox-31's transmitter is lower than WALB's. I wish they would move back to Digital 16. I could pick them up in Hahira then at 100% when they were on 16.

I'm now noticing that WCTV and WSWG are both in 5.1 at the moment.

I'm now noticing that WCTV and WSWG are both in 5.1 at the moment.

What program are you watching?

I'm now noticing that WCTV and WSWG are both in 5.1 at the moment.

I am also getting 5.1 on WCTV.

I am also getting 5.1 on WCTV.

5.1 in prime time... mmmmm :D

Can't wait till college/pro football in 5.1 on WCTV. :cool:

What program are you watching?
At the time? Young & the Restless.

Even thougth it indicates 5.1 on my receiver I am getting the same thing out every speaker.

Ref Walb

I talked to head quarters in Al last week and understand Harris has sent some pepole down to get the transmitter up this weekend or soon.

Anyone in South Georgia having any luck getting WALB. I bought a Channel Master 4228HD antenna and was able to pick it up last night at around 54%. But today it was out all day until about 6:00 PM, then went out again about 11:00 PM. I was told by the engineer that some time in July they should be at full power. Anyone have an update. Are they making changes during the day.
I can pick up Fox 31 at about 65-70% all day with no drop-outs. What is funny, si that they broadcast from the same tower and Fox-31's transmitter is lower than WALB's. I wish they would move back to Digital 16. I could pick them up in Hahira then at 100% when they were on 16.

I live off Skipper Bridge RD in Orchard Hills and at 11:46 am today I watched the tennis match while they closed the dome arena roof because of rain. My Sharp OTA TV recorded 88-90 % signal strength on WALB-DT. I have a Channel Master 3018 antenna with Channel Master 7777 antenna amp. It is mounted INSIDE the attic. I was using a 10ft pole but 2yrs ago I upped it to 20ft. That addition made a big difference. (I have a high pitched roof) IF you have the capability try raising your antenna, it might do the trick.;)

The 5.1 on WCTV seems to be working right now.

Still no WTWC on my Tivo ... anyone else have any luck??

I'm thinking about switching from Comcast to Directv, but I'm worried about losing my signal when it rains. I had Directv about 7 years ago (in Virginia) and every time it rained I would lose my signal. It rains in Tallahassee quite a bit in the summer time and I just wanted to see what other Directv subscribers experience in this area before I make the switch. Thanks!

The 5.1 on WCTV seems to be working right now.

But it's not working properly - it is putting out the same sound from all five channels, so either it is not decoding properly or is not properly setup. And the loudness level is about 6 dB too high. I have to use DPLII to get decent sound, and the loudness level there is consistent with other channels. Has anyone contacted them about this? Maybe one of our forum engineers could tip them to the problem and get better results?

It doesn't seem that much of a problem of late. I have the SD-version of DirecTV. The losses seem only to come with severe thunderstorms and only last a short while. I don't know about the HD signal.

I'm thinking about switching from Comcast to Directv, but I'm worried about losing my signal when it rains. I had Directv about 7 years ago (in Virginia) and every time it rained I would lose my signal. It rains in Tallahassee quite a bit in the summer time and I just wanted to see what other Directv subscribers experience in this area before I make the switch. Thanks!

I'm in Valdosta and have only lost HD signal 1 time in the 3 months that I have had DirecTV - I switched over and SD was still working at that time.

I'm in Valdosta and have only lost HD signal 1 time in the 3 months that I have had DirecTV - I switched over and SD was still working at that time.

Lost HD signal on Directv about 5-10 min at the most with the worst storms.
Friend had cable it was off about 8 hours at the worst.

I'll take Directv. I do have a antenna for back-up and to pick channels that Directv does not carry (MyNetwork on 6.1 and WALB).

Lost HD signal on Directv about 5-10 min at the most with the worst storms.
Friend had cable it was off about 8 hours at the worst.

I'll take Directv. I do have a antenna for back-up and to pick channels that Directv does not carry (MyNetwork on 6.1 and WALB).

Charter does not count as a cable system.

Still no WTWC on my Tivo ... anyone else have any luck??

I've got a CM-7000 D2A hooked up to my Series 2, and live off of Mission and Fred George in Tallahassee. My WTWC reception is marginal at best, particularly when there's weather.

Anyone hear of a power boost for WTWC? I'm still not getting WTLH either ... no Simpsons ... no joy ... :(

But it's not working properly - it is putting out the same sound from all five channels, so either it is not decoding properly or is not properly setup. And the loudness level is about 6 dB too high. I have to use DPLII to get decent sound, and the loudness level there is consistent with other channels. Has anyone contacted them about this? Maybe one of our forum engineers could tip them to the problem and get better results?

It was for a couple of shows but not on anything I've listened to lately. Maybe they will get it right one day.

How about a update on WALB going full power? Also what about PBS (in GA) both OTA and Directv?

How about a update on WALB going full power? Also what about PBS (in GA) both OTA and Directv?


walb claim to be at full power and wabw is at full power also. Thanks to wtwc nbc 40 and wfxl for filling the gap where walb cant reach. I see where wfxl is adding more south ga news for this area. Guess some new guys are taking over with the power and news.

WPBT in Miami (1 HD, 2 SD), WXEL in West Palm Beach (1 HD, 2 SD), and WGCU in Fort Myers (1 HD, 3 SD) do HD 24/7 with subchannels. WLRN in Miami has 1 HD and 1 SD. All of these look ok, with WGCU doing some updates recently that makes all 4 channels look pretty darn good.

Higher-quality encoders will allow for more sub-channels with good visual quality. Conversely, Lower-quality and older encoders will not.

Isn't DD 5.1 only going to be transmitted when it is included in the source signal? Many ads and local inserts or reruns of old Andy Griffith shows are not going to have 5.1 soundtracks. CBS prime time shows should be 5.1 of course. I don't watch much CBS prime time other than Ghost Whisperer and The Mentalist, though I will be watching Medium when it moves to CBS this fall.

A station (or network) may broadcast a Dolby Digital 5.1 stream constantly, independent of what their affiliated network may send down, and up-mix stereo and Lt/Rt (A.K.A. Dolby Surround) sources in the Dolby encoder. This method takes away the ability of YOUR AVR to process the audio according to your sound system setup.

CBS previously would switch between stereo and 5.1 signals depending on the sources, but decided several months ago to send everything 5.1 in an effort to fix some audio problems they were having. DTV broadcasting is not "settled science" yet, and if the networks are still working through some problems, the local broadcasters will certainly have their shares.

A station (or network) may broadcast a Dolby Digital 5.1 stream constantly, independent of what their affiliated network may send down, and up-mix stereo and Lt/Rt (A.K.A. Dolby Surround) sources in the Dolby encoder. This method takes away the ability of YOUR AVR to process the audio according to your sound system setup.

CBS previously would switch between stereo and 5.1 signals depending on the sources, but decided several months ago to send everything 5.1 in an effort to fix some audio problems they were having. DTV broadcasting is not "settled science" yet, and if the networks are still working through some problems, the local broadcasters will certainly have their shares.


I don't think you can convert DD 2.0 to true (discrete) DD 5.1; if you could my Lexicon processor would do that instead of converting it to DPLII or Logic 7, and all DVDs would be pressed with DD 2.0 instead of 5.1 and save bandwidth (likewise all broadcasters). I have seen many digital channels on Comcast putting out a signal identified as "Digital" (DD 5.1) on my processor that are clearly not true 5.1 but do not get converted to DPLII by my processor, so I guess maybe they are transmitting 2.0 converted to some kind of faux 5.1 (DPLII?). So are networks broadcasting DD 2.0 over 5.1 channels just using DD DPLII for the 5.1 output? I have wondered about this so maybe some expert here can clarify?

And, if that is what WCTV is doing and their decoder is just screwing it up or not properly setup, then that is what they need to look at. Fortunately I have my processor setup to accept both digital and analog inputs from my cable box so I when I watch a CBS show with it's DD 5.1 messed up I can switch to the analog inputs and listen to DPLII the same as before they "improved" their audio!

I don't think you can convert DD 2.0 to true (discrete) DD 5.1; if you could my Lexicon processor would do that instead of converting it to DPLII or Logic 7, and all DVDs would be pressed with DD 2.0 instead of 5.1 and save bandwidth (likewise all broadcasters). I have seen many digital channels on Comcast putting out a signal identified as "Digital" (DD 5.1) on my processor that are clearly not true 5.1 but do not get converted to DPLII by my processor, so I guess maybe they are transmitting 2.0 converted to some kind of faux 5.1 (DPLII?). So are networks broadcasting DD 2.0 over 5.1 channels just using DD DPLII for the 5.1 output? I have wondered about this so maybe some expert here can clarify?

You cannot convert a stereo or Lt/Rt (surround) signal to discrete 5.1, but it is up-mixed to 5.1 using Pro Logic decoding in the broadcasters' Dolby encoders/decoders. This way, they do the surround processing for you, instead of allowing your AVR to process it using Pro Logic, Pro Logic II, IIx, IIz, or however your system is configured. This means that your PL IIx receiver will not sound the same with the already-decoded 5.1, as it would if it did the decoding and processing itself.

Networks like ABC and ESPN don't use (or rarely use) Dolby Digital 5.1 in their surround sound programs. They use SRS Circle Surround, which is similar to Dolby Pro Logic II, and decode it to 5.1 channels before sending it out on broadcast.

And, if that is what WCTV is doing and their decoder is just screwing it up or not properly setup, then that is what they need to look at. Fortunately I have my processor setup to accept both digital and analog inputs from my cable box so I when I watch a CBS show with it's DD 5.1 messed up I can switch to the analog inputs and listen to DPLII the same as before they "improved" their audio!It seems that WCTV has just gone to 5.1 audio. Who knows why they hadn't already. It's not like they're a low-ratings tiny-market station. Broadcasting 5.1 audio, even just passing it through, is MUCH more involved than plain ol' stereo. They probably just have to work out the kinks (and educate themselves), and it will eventually be working fine. Even the major networks are still working out kinks in how audio is handled.

Does anyone know what parts of tallahassee are using the 12mbps internet speeds?

I called earlier and Comcast employees some of the most unqualifies people ever. The lady didnt even know what I was talking about.

Does anyone know what parts of tallahassee are using the 12mbps internet speeds?

I called earlier and Comcast employees some of the most unqualifies people ever. The lady didnt even know what I was talking about.

Comcast internet has two tiers - $24.99 gets you 2.5 mbps and $42.50 gets you up to 12 mbps. I was one of the first comcast internet customers and I remember starting out at 1.5 mbps, then 2.5 mbps and later 6 mbps and currently I average about 12 mbps. I check my connection download speed at Speakeasy and recently got 20 mbps from a connection in Dallas! Even upload speeds are now close to 5 mbps range. Of course your average speed will depend a lot on where you are, how many are on your local node, and how clean your tap is, etc. I am on the east side of town pretty close in (just east of Governor's Square). If your speeds are slow ask them to check your lines for noise and other issues. Try to get the name and cell phone of your area line supervisor - the guys at the phone desk are often clueless.

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

Comcast internet has two tiers - $24.99 gets you 2.5 mbps and $42.50 gets you up to 12 mbps. I was one of the first comcast internet customers and I remember starting out at 1.5 mbps, then 2.5 mbps and later 6 mbps and currently I average about 12 mbps. I check my connection download speed at Speakeasy and recently got 20 mbps from a connection in Dallas! Even upload speeds are now close to 5 mbps range. Of course your average speed will depend a lot on where you are, how many are on your local node, and how clean your tap is, etc. I am on the east side of town pretty close in (just east of Governor's Square). If your speeds are slow ask them to check your lines for noise and other issues. Try to get the name and cell phone of your area line supervisor - the guys at the phone desk are often clueless.

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/


I called and spoke with someone and they said 12mbps is only in certain areas of the city but didnt say which areas and that they are currently trying to upgrade to 16mpbs.

I'm moving to Tallahassee in the Fall, and I'd like to avoid paying for cable, so I've decided to go the DTV route. I decided to purchase a Terk "HDTVa" indoor amplified directional antenna because it seems to be getting rave reviews on both Amazon and Newegg, it's relatively inexpensive, and I'm not sure that my landlord would allow for me to install an outdoor antenna.

I generated a report from TV fool regarding reception from my location in Tallahassee (the Pensacola St/Jackson Bluff area). I realize that the NM(db) numbers for the majority of the Tallahassee DMA are relatively low as compared to my current location in Pensacola, FL, but, I tested out the Terk antenna in several locations in the Pensacola area and it seems to perform pretty well (picking up most stations at 30 and even 40 miles away from the tower farm).

My question for the AVS forums:

Do you think this indoor antenna (marketed as a "high gain" model) will be able to pick up most stations in Tallahassse, or, at the very least, WTXL, WCTV, and WTWC, in the FSU campus area/west side of town?

Sorry that I couldn't provide links to my TV Fool reports for more information on reception at my location(s), but this is my first post, and it seems I won't be allowed to post links until I've got three posts under my belt.

Thanks for your help!

BBC America is going HD starting today, but as far as I can tell it is not available on Comcast yet. Anyone know anything about this channel becoming available in HD on Comcast or satellites? Torchwood's new season is starting and the show will presumably be available in HD, which would be cool. Dr. Who should follow with same.

Anyone know a good company that does antenna installs?

I am bringing an 8 bay from my home in Tampa when my wife and I move up at the end of the month. I don't think I will need my Channel Master preamp seeing that the stations are all within 20 miles of my place. and about the same degrees.

It depends on where you live. WFSU can be very hard to receive from NE Tallahassee. It is also located on the west side of town. Most of the other channels are located to the northeast of Tallahassee.

My place is off Thomasville Rd about 3-4 miles from I-10. According to Antennaweb its only 18 -20 miles to the antennas with them all at about the same angle.

I'm moving to Tallahassee in the Fall, and I'd like to avoid paying for cable, so I've decided to go the DTV route. I decided to purchase a Terk "HDTVa" indoor amplified directional antenna because it seems to be getting rave reviews on both Amazon and Newegg, it's relatively inexpensive, and I'm not sure that my landlord would allow for me to install an outdoor antenna.

I generated a report from TV fool regarding reception from my location in Tallahassee (the Pensacola St/Jackson Bluff area). I realize that the NM(db) numbers for the majority of the Tallahassee DMA are relatively low as compared to my current location in Pensacola, FL, but, I tested out the Terk antenna in several locations in the Pensacola area and it seems to perform pretty well (picking up most stations at 30 and even 40 miles away from the tower farm).

My question for the AVS forums:

Do you think this indoor antenna (marketed as a "high gain" model) will be able to pick up most stations in Tallahassse, or, at the very least, WTXL, WCTV, and WTWC, in the FSU campus area/west side of town?

Sorry that I couldn't provide links to my TV Fool reports for more information on reception at my location(s), but this is my first post, and it seems I won't be allowed to post links until I've got three posts under my belt.

Thanks for your help!
Terk hda works fine in Cairo ga. I get all the Tallahassee Fl, Albany ga market well. Even skips from south Fl And also Dothan Al, Panama city Fl sometimes at night often

BBC America is going HD starting today, but as far as I can tell it is not available on Comcast yet. Anyone know anything about this channel becoming available in HD on Comcast or satellites? Torchwood's new season is starting and the show will presumably be available in HD, which would be cool. Dr. Who should follow with same.

If you build an HD channel and no one can watch it, does it REALLY exist?

Apparently, Comcast isn't the only provider to not carry BBC America HD this week, as it's believed that NO provider is carrying BBC America HD this week.

I'm not too disappointed that DirecTV isn't carrying BBC America HD yet as I already have "Torchwood: Children Of Earth" and "Doctor Who: Planet Of The Dead" pre-ordered on Blu-ray (TW:CoE for $19.99 and DW:PotD for $13.99)... which will look better than BBC America's HD feed, sound better, and in the case of "Torchwood: Children Of Earth", be unedited compared to BBC America's chopping job.

I am however disappointed in not being able to see BBC America's "Being Human (http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/369/index.jsp)" in HD this weekend. Hopefully, BBC America will release it on Blu-ray or SyFy-HD will pick it up.

~Alan

If you build an HD channel and no one can watch it, does it REALLY exist?

Apparently, Comcast isn't the only provider to not carry BBC America HD this week, as it's believed that NO provider is carrying BBC America HD this week.

I'm not too disappointed that DirecTV isn't carrying BBC America HD yet as I already have "Torchwood: Children Of Earth" and "Doctor Who: Planet Of The Dead" pre-ordered on Blu-ray (TW:CoE for $19.99 and DW:PotD for $13.99)... which will look better than BBC America's HD feed, sound better, and in the case of "Torchwood: Children Of Earth", be unedited compared to BBC America's chopping job.

I am however disappointed in not being able to see BBC America's "Being Human (http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/369/index.jsp)" in HD this weekend. Hopefully, BBC America will release it on Blu-ray or SyFy-HD will pick it up.

~Alan

I don't know what BBC America's ratings are but my guess is they are at least as good as some of the other HD specialty channels I complained about a few months back that Comcast bestowed upon us just so they could claim lots of HD (and to justify more rate increases). At least BBC America had the stones to show occasional nudity, something US commercial networks never do.

Didn't SyFy carry Torchwood and Dr. Who last year (not in HD but WS with decent PQ)? Maybe they will pick them up again in reruns but hopefully in HD. I think SyFy also carried BBC's Robin Hood (what happend with that show - it was pretty good?). Anyway, Torchwood on Comcast Ch 114 is at least in WS and PQ is not bad considering. I plan to watch "Being Human" partly out of curiousity as I don't know what it is about.

I don't know what BBC America's ratings are but my guess is they are at least as good as some of the other HD specialty channels I complained about a few months back that Comcast bestowed upon us just so they could claim lots of HD (and to justify more rate increases). At least BBC America had the stones to show occasional nudity, something US commercial networks never do.

I can't really speak for the ratings, but I would imagine at least several providers will add them this Summer/Fall.

My understanding is that BBC America now edits their content (particularly those earlier in the day).

Didn't SyFy carry Torchwood and Dr. Who last year (not in HD but WS with decent PQ)? Maybe they will pick them up again in reruns but hopefully in HD. I think SyFy also carried BBC's Robin Hood (what happend with that show - it was pretty good?). Anyway, Torchwood on Comcast Ch 114 is at least in WS and PQ is not bad considering.

SyFy still broadcasts the first four seasons of the new "Doctor Who" series, and it's possible they'll broadcast the fifth season (http://blogtorwho.blogspot.com/2009/07/11th-doctor-promo-pictures.html) next year as well as BBC America, but I don't know about these movies. The first new movie aired last month on BBC America, but no commercials for a SyFy airing yet... though it wouldn't be in HD. The movie airing next week will thankfully be the first time "The Doctor" has been in HD, and hopefully DirecTV, Dish Network, and Comcast will have BBC America before November when the next movie airs (though I will most likely wait for the Blu-ray).

"Torchwood" has aired exclusively on BBC America in SD (until last night) and edited, and HDNet in HD and unedited here in America.

I didn't know Sci-Fi aired "Robin Hood" as I watched the first season on BBC America.... and missed the second season. I know DirecTV's "The 101" aired Season One in HD, but I missed them (I still intend on picking up the Blu-ray of S1). It just completed it's final season (three) in the UK, and I believe BBC America has mentioned that it will air S3 soon...

I plan to watch "Being Human" partly out of curiousity as I don't know what it is about.

Seems somewhat similar to "Sanctuary" in a way...

~Alan

The Torchwood shortened season was phenomenal. I don't know how much BBC America is editing out, though with a 1 hour, 15 minute window, I imagine it isn't much(each episode was about 56 minutes), but I think it is worth watching the series as it aired in the UK. I made a marathon out of it last weekend and it's easily the best thing I've seen on tv this year. The episode that airs Thursday is just stunning. It's too bad BBCA wasn't made available in HD in time for most people to see this the way it was intended.

I emailed Tivo over the weekend with the channel lineup issue for WTWC and got a response last night that the issue had been resolved.

But as of last night I still could not get Tivo to tune it in. Forced network connection, restarted Tivo and rescanned channels -- no luck. ANyone else get it working?

I noticed that WTWC-DT is now coming in on my TiVo Series 3...

~Alan

The Torchwood shortened season was phenomenal. I don't know how much BBC America is editing out, though with a 1 hour, 15 minute window, I imagine it isn't much(each episode was about 56 minutes), but I think it is worth watching the series as it aired in the UK. I made a marathon out of it last weekend and it's easily the best thing I've seen on tv this year. The episode that airs Thursday is just stunning. It's too bad BBCA wasn't made available in HD in time for most people to see this the way it was intended.

Agreed - despite it's faults, "Children of Earth" was by far the best thing Torchwood has ever done (IMO). I hope that is not the last of Torchwood.

Alan,

I think in retrospect you are right - Robin Hood was probably not on Sci-Fi. BTW, whatever happend to RH? The last episode apparently (we have seen that before) killed off Marian and left Robin stranded in the desert. I thought sure it would return but nothing so far. I also miss "Hex." As for BBC-A now editing their shows I think you are right and that is a shame. Don't they realize the religious fanatics of the Bush gang are gone now? At one time you could get a more liberal edit of BBC episodes using VOD at Comcast, which seems strange but true. Don't know about now.

Saw the new Doctor Who episode last night and the best thing about it was Michelle Ryan (hopefully a new regular) - she's a hottie! I think I will pass on Being Human (the show).

Since this is a discussion of the Tallahassee, FL area, and not a BBC America thread, and it's apparent that Comcast, Charter, DirecTV & Dish Network aren't getting it in HD right away, I'll reply to this, and dsmith901 and I can take it to PM if there's more to say.

Alan,

I think in retrospect you are right - Robin Hood was probably not on Sci-Fi. BTW, whatever happend to RH? The last episode apparently (we have seen that before) killed off Marian and left Robin stranded in the desert. I thought sure it would return but nothing so far.

Season Three just ended in the UK, and if you thought Season Two ended on a bummer, you'll be shocked by how Season Three ends. It has been announced that there will be NO Season Four.

I also miss "Hex."

I own the DVD of S1, still have S2 on TiVo.

As for BBC-A now editing their shows I think you are right and that is a shame.

I edited out the political comments... hoping that it would encourage others from making remarks about it, but I don't hold out a lot of hope.

Political landscape differences aside, I imagine the change has more to do with business reasons than anything else. Editing the content means that cable systems are more likely to put BBC America in smaller packages... giving BBC America more (potential) viewers, and allowing them to charge higher advertising fees.

Note that I hear Universal HD (once unedited) is now editing their content. Most likely due to the same reasons. Thankfully, HDNet and HDNet Movies is still unedited.

Saw the new Doctor Who episode last night and the best thing about it was Michelle Ryan (hopefully a new regular) - she's a hottie! I think I will pass on Being Human (the show).

Didn't get around to watching "Being Human" (still ticked it wasn't in HD), and my Blu-ray copy of the new "Doctor Who" special should ship out tomorrow (along with "Torchwood" S2 and CoE and a few others), but I agree about Michelle Ryan... who, sadly, will not be involved with the next three specials (though Rose, Martha, Sarah Jane, and Donna will be involved in the last two), nor Season Five coming next year. The new "companion" in Season Five will be KAREN GILLAN (who you can see in the link in my last post along with the NEW Doctor) who is not new to the "Who-verse" as she guest starred in a episode in Season Four (playing a different character).

~Alan

Anyone have any recommendations for a good antenna installer in the Tallahassee area?

I due to an injury can't climb ladders (knee locks up).

Support For Television Freedom Act Bill
Hope we can see the Tallhassee Fl /Thomasville Ga & Albany markets all come together if this goes through. Maybe this will Give us all our Ga stations on Dishnetwork in South Ga looks like there is hope

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Didn't get around to watching "Being Human" (still ticked it wasn't in HD), and my Blu-ray copy of the new "Doctor Who" special should ship out tomorrow (along with "Torchwood" S2 and CoE and a few others), but I agree about Michelle Ryan... who, sadly, will not be involved with the next three specials (though Rose, Martha, Sarah Jane, and Donna will be involved in the last two), nor Season Five coming next year. The new "companion" in Season Five will be KAREN GILLAN (who you can see in the link in my last post along with the NEW Doctor) who is not new to the "Who-verse" as she guest starred in a episode in Season Four (playing a different character).

~Alan

I looked up Karen Gillan and Matt Smith, the new Dr.Who. She is young and pretty, he is young and not so pretty (looks like he has a glandular problem). Anyway, it is apparent that the show's producers are going after the teenage market with these two, who would look right at home in the Twilight teen vampire series. This is a shame and will probably lose me as a viewer.

Anyway, it is apparent that the show's producers are going after the teenage market with these two, who would look right at home in the Twilight teen vampire series. This is a shame and will probably lose me as a viewer.

...compared to the Doctor-Rose quasi-romance that (hopefully) concluded last series and at least alluded to/hinted at for the past four years?

Also, I've seen the 11th Doctor's costume; it is fitting that he is starting to dress like an old man (the Doctor has two lives left and is over 900 years old).

I was finally able to pick up WVUP's digital signal in Tallahassee on 45.1 yesterday. The sound on the analog channel had been very bad of late. I live in NE Tallahassee.

I was finally able to pick up WVUP's digital signal in Tallahassee on 45.1 yesterday. The sound on the analog channel had been very bad of late. I live in NE Tallahassee.

WVUP 45.1 ? Who are they?

WVUP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Television_Network

- Trip

WCTV local News is now in HD!!!

WCTV local News is now in HD!!!
Thanks. Now I'm gonna wait for the Midday News at Noon to see for myself. I will take some screenshots if the Noon newscast is in HD.

Wow WCTV coming through lately with 5.1 and now HD news..
Now if we could get shows like Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, etc. in HD we would probably stop complaining for like a week :).

WCTV local News is now in HD!!!

It doesn't look like real HD to me, more like widescreen SD. Even so, it is a big improvement. Now if they would just tighten the camera shots when Sheena Samanipour is giving the weather I would be even more enthusiastic (LOL!).

Wow WCTV coming through lately with 5.1 and now HD news..

I was hoping the "digital transition" aftermath would bring about stations investing in their infrastructure with the money they were pouring into their second signal.

Now if we could get shows like Wheel of Fortune, Jeopardy, etc. in HD we would probably stop complaining for like a week :).

Engineers (or those in the know), correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't WCTV-DT's ability to offer HD news means they at least have SOME of the equipment now that they need to have to offer syndicated programming?

OK, that's kind of vague, as they could have had SOME of the equipment for years, but I'm hoping you get my point?

~Alan

They might be able to originate live HD or even widescreen SD, but if their automation servers won't record HD or won't output HD, then they can't do it. They might need an upgrade to the existing automation servers, or might need to replace them. I doubt either option is terribly cheap.

I could be 100% wrong on that, but that would be my guess.

- Trip

They might be able to originate live HD or even widescreen SD, but if their automation servers won't record HD or won't output HD, then they can't do it. They might need an upgrade to the existing automation servers, or might need to replace them. I doubt either option is terribly cheap.

I could be 100% wrong on that, but that would be my guess.

Yeah, I know they still need to invest $$$ to offer "syndicated" programming, but I was under the belief that some of the equipment needed to do so is also used in bring local HD programming (though probably not needed for 16x9 SD) to the airwaves as well.

~Alan

At WDBJ, the equipment was almost entirely separate. One was completely independent of the other. This may vary at other stations with different companies providing automation and whatnot.

- Trip

At WDBJ, the equipment was almost entirely separate. One was completely independent of the other. This may vary at other stations with different companies providing automation and whatnot.

Oh well, I don't know where I had read that, but this does seem to shoot that theory down. :(

~Alan

Different equipment vendors handle things differently, so there's no telling. Some stations may be able to recycle equipment, I'm not sure.

I'm just telling you what I saw at WDBJ. :)

- Trip

If synidcated HD is all part of WCTV's current master plan then I'm all for it. (oh please, oh please, oh please)

If synidcated HD is all part of WCTV's current master plan then I'm all for it. (oh please, oh please, oh please)

Given Trip's comments, I no longer believe that WCTV is any closer to that happening, but it's only a matter of time before all the stations have this capability.

~Alan

This is not directly related to local HD but I wanted to let you local guys know about a terrific bargain and not miss out if it is what you want/need. Harman Kardon is apparently clearing out their remaining stock of the DMC-1000 digital media center at an unbelievable price of $399 (msrp was $2,999, so 87% off). It includes an upconverting DVD/CD player (1080p via HDMI), a 250 GB HDD expandable via USB, and four zone capability. These are brand new, not refurbs. Go to harmanaudio.com if interested and click on Current Models/Digital Media Centers. Their on-line purchasing was acting up yesterday so you might have to call customer service to order by phone.

Wctv Hd News
Can you please adjust the sound levels where they are equal. The volume will be loud in HD and then low on analog during the news cast

Well one of our members made the news. "Heard something hit, looked up and the poles were shaking," A crop duster hit one of the main lines into Cairo Saturday just down the road from his house. Well Marty did you get to see your self in digital?????

I have recently noticed brief (maybe a half second) audio dropouts occurring with growing consistency on ABC network channels on Comcast, including WTXL, but also including the ABC Family/Disney HD channels. My 6412 does act up a bit sometimes and it could be at fault, but since I mostly see (hear) this on the ABC affiliates it seems to me it is probably a network problem. Anyone else notice this OTA or on Comcast/Satellite, or have any explanation?

I didn't see this posted earlier and in any case it bears repeating with the advent of football season. As of two weeks ago, Comcast has started carrying ESPNU on channel 735. Obviously this isn't in HD, but it's better than nothing. The "U" no longer stands for "Unavailable"!

But wait, there's more. Today I also heard for the first time that the NFL network is no longer part of the sports tier, but is instead available to almost everyone with with a box. So no longer will I accidentally tune into 406 and see a "You must subscribe" message.

Yea!

Does anyone use a Media Center in Tallahassee?

Was wondering if they are using SDV on the HD channels?

Was looking at picking up 2 Cable Card Tuners

Hey everyone, I was hoping I could get some help..Ive scanned over as many of the 142 pages as I can to find the answer but couldnt. I live west of Tally...In the Marianna area and Im looking to buy a over the air HDTV antenna...Can someone point me in the direction to find out exactly what channels I may pick up in OTA HDTV and Digital???....And maybe even recomend a setup for me...Ive heard the kind that snap on a Dishnetwork dish work pretty well.....Thanx in advance

Go to www.tvfool.com and plug in your information. It will provide you with a list of possible stations you might receive. If you observe, you'll find in bold print a link that is described as being used to share the report with others. Post that link here and either I or someone else will be able to better advise you on what to do. :)

- Trip

Thanx......