Well the equipment to make out transmitter digital has shown up. The only problem is the Antenna ERI is telling us there is a delay don't know it this will be the case or for how long. So FOX HD should be a month away.

Also our company just sold so stand by for updates on that.

Is there any chance you guys can also broadcast CW in HD? Please, please, please!!!!

I read that CB Media purchased WTLH/WTLF on a couple of articles (here's one (http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_90702.asp)), and I know that not much can be said at the moment since it's a new thing, and approval will probably be a while (my local FOX affiliate was bought in March, and still hasn't seen approval), but I noticed that WTLF-DT was listed as being sold, and that it was listed as being a (CW) affiliate. Has the CW affiliation moved from WTLH-DT2 to WTLF-DT?

~Alan
It's CP Media as for CW it will be on both at this time.

Is there any chance you guys can also broadcast CW in HD? Please, please, please!!!!

At this time no but there is a chance we may do it on WTLF if we move the TX.

It's CP Media as for CW it will be on both at this time.

WHOOPS!! I went back and edited my original typo. Hmm... will WTLF-DT be doing any upgrading in power, or staying the same?

BTW, for those of you in the Tallahassee, FL DMA with DirecTV, according to people elsewhere on this board, DirecTV has made a deal with The CW to provide DNS for those who are eligible to receive it. There is no word yet as to whether or not that will include an HD feed, or just SD feed, but I thought I'd le you know.

~Alan

At this time no but there is a chance we may do it on WTLF if we move the TX.

Please pass on to the powers at WTLH that be that legions of local TV viewers want that very badly (CW in HD). Otherwise, who do we have to bribe to bring that about?

Or is it possible to feed CW in HD to Comcast even without the TX move?

Or is it possible to feed CW in HD to Comcast even without the TX move?

WTLHFOXHD has already answered this... sorta! They tried to do this before, but the WB told them no... so it is possible on WTLH's end (or at least it was with the previous owners), but rather or not the CW will allow them to is the question that needs to be asked.

~Alan

WTLHFOXHD: Any chance you can get The CW Tallahassee station listed on http://www.cwtv.com/cw-affiliates.html ?

When will The CW be going live in Tallahassee? Do you know the channel number it will be on Comcast?


dsmith901: If you find out who we need to bribe to get The CW in HD let me know. :)

Well it looks like another college football season and fall tv season without ABC HD and NBC HD. You would think that the capital city and home of one of the premiere college football programs in the country would have their crap together better than this. At least maybe FOX will be going before the BCS.

Well it looks like another college football season and fall tv season without ABC HD and NBC HD. You would think that the capital city and home of one of the premiere college football programs in the country would have their crap together better than this. At least maybe FOX will be going before the BCS.

NBC is still HD as far as I know at least it was the other night when I watched. ABC is another story, we can only hope they can be doing HD sometime this football season.

Did FOX49 get the Lincoln Financial ACC package? If so, that should also include FSU games that may appear in that package.

dsmith901: If you find out who we need to bribe to get The CW in HD let me know. :)

I am collecting at this time. Send contributions of $100 or more in unmarked bills to my attorneys Dewey, Cheatham and Howe.

WFXU Channel 24 is showing a" comming in September CW Network" logo.
There is a channel 24-1 on my DirecTV guide (OTR).

WFXU Channel 24 is showing a" comming in September CW Network" logo.
There is a channel 24-1 on my DirecTV guide (OTR).

Tallahasse Comcast blurbs say CW will be cable channel 6 (currently WB) which means no HD there of course. Bummer - plus cable ch 6 has always been a bad channel in the spectrum for noise and interference.

Tallahasse Comcast blurbs say CW will be cable channel 6 (currently WB) which means no HD there of course. Bummer - plus cable ch 6 has always been a bad channel in the spectrum for noise and interference.
I was just flipping channels and the station bug on 6 says "coming this September CW". I agree this channel has the worst reception on out of all of my channels.

Would I be able to view ABC on HD on Direct Tv or Dish? I am sick of not being able to watch college FB in HD on ABC

Would I be able to view ABC on HD on Direct Tv or Dish? I am sick of not being able to watch college FB in HD on ABC
Unless you can get the local affiliate to issue a waiver, I do not believe you can get ABC in hidef on DirecTV or Dish. I'm grandfathered in on FOX's waiver so I get it in hidef, but DirecTV turned off my ABC, CBS & NBC feeds after the lastest SHIVA (not sure if I have the acronymn correct) amendment. So I'm afraid you are out of luck.

I was one of the few that could get the local ABC affiliate in hidef OTA, but that was before it got booted from its former facility. I hope that it will get its act together soon and start re-broadcasting in hidef OTA.

Well, I finally got around to it.

Had DirecTV installed an antenna for me in the Attic. They brought over the Winegard GS-2000. After struggling with it, the installer could only get it to get max 50% but frequently drop down to nothing.
At least, he wired the lines for me to two rooms which is what I really wanted. This cost me about $50 bucks.

I let him go then later went to Lowe's and get the ChannelMaster 3016 ($30). Just by replacing the antenna and re-aim, I now could get all three networks NBC, CBS, & ABC.

Fox is not broadcasting but I got a waiver from them so I got NY feed.

One minor thing that ABC currently is mapped over to 22-3, and I got no Guide at all for that channel. Since I only Tivo program then watch later, ABC HD for now will only be good for Sports, no Shows.

BTW, I am right out of Meridian and Ox Bottom.

AVPhan, what signal strength do you get with the antenna in the attic? Do you have any trees around your house? I am in SummerBrooke (Hill Roost Road) and am getting Dish within the next few weeks (as soon as they can come out) (moving from Comcast for a variety of reasons); I didn't want to put up an antenna up outside but would in the attic if it would work. I have an oak tree between my house and the neighbors in the direction of the towers (Per antennaweb.org I need medium directional antenna, with NBC/CBS at about 70-74 degrees, about 20 miles out)

Thanks!

Robert

My strength:

Ch 2 (NBC) at approx. 75 (fluctuate between 70 & 80).
CH 22 (ABC) at 70.
Ch 46 (CBS) at 92 Constant.

This is now on a clear day and time right now. I do get occasional picture pixelations during stommy time.

I am in the Rosehill area and all surrounded by high tall trees. Keep in mind though, this is a relatively small antenna. There is not enough room in the attic for me to swivel a large one around.

You are in SummerBrook then you should be closer to the tower than I am.

Good luck.

Thanks. Worth a shot.

Robert

One minor thing that ABC currently is mapped over to 22-3, and I got no Guide at all for that channel. Since I only Tivo program then watch later, ABC HD for now will only be good for Sports, no Shows.
Is the local ABC affiliate currently broadcasting in hidef?

Is the local ABC affiliate currently broadcasting in hidef?

No. They were broadcasting HD before they got kicked out of their old studios. But now they lease space at WFSU while waiting for their new all-digital facility to be built. Move-in date is projected for December at which time they should certainly be in HD (just in time for reruns). As I understand it, they actually do have HD capability right now but their main control center is out of Little Rock, AR and they have been unable to get the satellite up/downlink switcher to work with HD. Last night their Comcast digital channel did not have audio. In fact they have been having lots of audio problems off and on for months - which can drive you crazy if you try to watch a show with a surround sound system (the center channel dialogue often comes out of the left rear instead). So now the college football season approaches and no HD! Bummer! At least the Miami game is in HD on ESPN. Go Noles!!!!

I think they are.

I get them on 22-3. I am not too certain if content is HD since I do not watch TV Live unless a Sport program. From time to time, I switch by and saw ABC logo on it.


And as mentioned above, 22-3 has no Guide, for this I am not able to Tivo it, then have no idea what content would be like.

I just noticed that Comcast added NFLHD on Channel 206. Man, I hope that is here to stay.

So is there any word on whether WTXL is going to get their act together anytime soon? All the recent updates have been that they are working on it and it should be up in the next few weeks, but the weeks keep coming and going.

I just noticed that Comcast added NFLHD on Channel 206. Man, I hope that is here to stay.

So is there any word on whether WTXL is going to get their act together anytime soon? All the recent updates have been that they are working on it and it should be up in the next few weeks, but the weeks keep coming and going.

Actually, I don't know what the hell Channel 206 is. I just went to it again and it still appears to be INHD, since poker was on. I know at one point today it was NFLHD because I watched part of a preseason game. The fact it supplanted INHD leads me to believe it may only be around for the football season like they did with UniversalHD during the Olympics. Who knows what Comcast is thinking.

As soon as you find out, please tell Comcast!

Actually, I don't know what the hell Channel 206 is. I just went to it again and it still appears to be INHD, since poker was on. I know at one point today it was NFLHD because I watched part of a preseason game. The fact it supplanted INHD leads me to believe it may only be around for the football season like they did with UniversalHD during the Olympics. Who knows what Comcast is thinking.

While the NFL Network offers a full-time HD channel, some pay TV providers will be offering the NEW games in HD, but not the rest of the programming. This is probably what happened today. Check it out the next time a pre-season game comes on the NFL Network, and see if it's there.

~Alan

WTLH,

Even though you said that FOX HD should be a month away, will you still be full-power SD this month? If so, will "The CW" be available on WTLH-DT2 (49-2) on September 18 (the day it starts), or will it be later?!

~Alan

WTLH,

Even though you said that FOX HD should be a month away, will you still be full-power SD this month? If so, will "The CW" be available on WTLH-DT2 (49-2) on September 18 (the day it starts), or will it be later?!

~Alan

Also, re CW to be on Comcast ch 6, do you know if Comcast can at least keep the signal all digital to the head end so PQ won't be degraded by more than one AD conversion?

I've been out of the loop. What happened to Fox and their HD?

Also how did the miami/FSU game go to Espn?

I think they are.

I get them on 22-3. I am not too certain if content is HD since I do not watch TV Live unless a Sport program. From time to time, I switch by and saw ABC logo on it.


And as mentioned above, 22-3 has no Guide, for this I am not able to Tivo it, then have no idea what content would be like.

dsmith is probably right on. Sorry.
All I see that they broadcast but not seen any HD Content yet. All Upconverted on 22-3.

I've been out of the loop. What happened to Fox and their HD?

I'm referring to the OTA feed, and not the Comcast feed.

~Alan

I can't receive WCTV-DT anymore... anybody else have this problem?

~Alan

I'm getting it in Lake Park - over the air

I'm getting it in Lake Park - over the air

I usually receive a signal around 60-80 in the daytime, and 80-98 at night, but late last night (insomnia) and today, the best I've gotten is a few blips with the highest being 22.

~Alan

I've never gotten it in daylight hours, and it's hit & miss after dark, usually miss. I think the atmospheric conditions is what gets it for me. I have however been getting WSSTDT from Cordele for the past 4 nights, there are dropouts, but for the most part it's watchable. Until now, I've never gotten it, and have tried several times over the past 3 years. Wondering if they've upped there power.

Al

I am trying to be patient with WTXL, but lately they have been embarassing themselves. Their digital signal on Comcast often has NO audio at all, and their local commercial inserts are lost so you get 2-3 minutes of black screen. And it is now pretty clear that we will not get any HD college FB games from them this year.

I've never gotten it in daylight hours, and it's hit & miss after dark, usually miss. I think the atmospheric conditions is what gets it for me. I have however been getting WSSTDT from Cordele for the past 4 nights, there are dropouts, but for the most part it's watchable. Until now, I've never gotten it, and have tried several times over the past 3 years. Wondering if they've upped there power.

Ever since WCTV-DT upped their power last August (it was right before I got my HDTiVo), they are the most stable signal I can receive, but I still can't receive them... and I don't know why...

WSST-DT comes in just fine for me (though I wish DirecTV would get their guide data straight for them), and has for years...

~Alan

Alan-
We've backed down on power in one of our three cabinets temporarily (I'm not an engineer so I won't even try to explain) so we're losing a few miles of coverage in each direction. We'll be back at full power in a few weeks.

CM

Alan-
We've backed down on power in one of our three cabinets temporarily (I'm not an engineer so I won't even try to explain) so we're losing a few miles of coverage in each direction. We'll be back at full power in a few weeks.

Thanks for the information CMTally... I don't watch WCTV-DT much, BUT I like to know it's there...

BTW, guide data on DirecTV receivers are showing UPN programming on 6-2 on September 5th (the day MyNetworkTV starts). I don't know if you're going to have MNTV on the start date or not, but if you are, you might want to let Tribune Media Services (http://tms.tribune.com/) (who provides guide data for DirecTV) know. WSWG-TV does show MyNetworkTV programming, but DirecTV receivers still don't list WSWG-DT as existing...

~Alan

Is there any reason why I would not be receiving signal from WTWC-DT? I know WTXL-DT and WTLH-DT are down, but I thought WTWC was running fine. Any help??

I am getting the stations just fine. However, WCTV is once again having an audio problem where all the sound is raspy, grrrrr!

Hmm.. I am in downtown Tallahassee and my TV cant even find WTWC-DT. I am using an indoor antenna..maybe that is my problem..

I live in the southeast part of Tallahassee and I am getting a 90- 100 for WCTV on and a 100 for WTWC on my Dish 622. I am using a Winegard GS2000, it's not a big antenna.

I am getting the stations just fine. However, WCTV is once again having an audio problem where all the sound is raspy, grrrrr!

Past two to three nights, it's been terrible.

Hmm.. I am in downtown Tallahassee and my TV cant even find WTWC-DT. I am using an indoor antenna..maybe that is my problem..

I found that only the Silver Sensor would work in the area to catch WCTV only.

My Terk HDTVa is picking up WCTV really well this evening (NFL Preseason Football), but like others have reported recently, the audio is very raspy.

Per CBS, Baltimore/Tampa Bay on 9/10 will not be available on HD

How is the progress WTLH going? Is the signal coming out soon? How about WTXL, anything there? thanks

How is the progress WTLH going? Is the signal coming out soon? How about WTXL, anything there? thanks

All the parts except the Antenna are on site. Once the antenna arrives the fun will begin. Should be running by the end of Sept.

WTXL has started broadcasting on 27-1 and 27-2 again. I still have not seen any HD yet and 27-1 does not have sound most of the time. But at least they are sending out the correct channel number again.

WTXL has started broadcasting on 27-1 and 27-2 again. I still have not seen any HD yet and 27-1 does not have sound most of the time. But at least they are sending out the correct channel number again.

WTXL will not be watchable (or listenable) on digital until their new station is up and running, probably in January. And maybe not even then.

WCTV-DT2 is still showing guide data for UPN next Tuesday (the first day of MyNetworkTV programming) on DirecTV HD receivers.

WSWG (analog) is showing guide data for MyNetworkTV on my Stand-Alone (analog OTA) TiVo... and my DirecTV HD receivers have NEVER showed information for WSWG-DT, so I can't comment on the guide data for it.

DirecTV OTA guide data is provided to them by Tribune Media Services (http://tms.tribune.com/).

Thanks!
~Alan

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTXL ABC is back in HD ota, grey's anatomy is on in high def!

well it went back off, i guess they are testing thier new switch, but they did have grey's anatomy on in HD

They seem to have growing pains I hope they get it going right in the next couple of days. At least they can get an HD picture part of the time.

They seem to have growing pains I hope they get it going right in the next couple of days. At least they can get an HD picture part of the time.

yup, college football is coming soon!

WCTV-DT2 is still showing guide data for UPN next Tuesday (the first day of MyNetworkTV programming) on DirecTV HD receivers.

WSWG (analog) is showing guide data for MyNetworkTV on my Stand-Alone (analog OTA) TiVo... and my DirecTV HD receivers have NEVER showed information for WSWG-DT, so I can't comment on the guide data for it.



Thanks Alan. We're looking into it.

At some point over the weekend we'll be testing the new WSWG HD transmitter. Would be interested to hear if/how it comes in out in Dawson...and any other parts of South Georgia.

CM

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTXL ABC is back in HD ota, grey's anatomy is on in high def!


Surely you are hallucinating. That can't be, because hell has not been reported as frozen over. I will have to check it out myself. Did it also have audio, or just the usual silence? :rolleyes:

Question for the WTLH guy... I used to be able to get the digital signal here on the other side of Bainbridge, but am not getting it. Has there been any change on your end? I know that you are working on the final site at Metcalf.

On another note, I have been able to get WTVY most of the time, and WMBB about 1/2 of the time. I got a quick bit of WJHG, but couldn't get it to lock in. I also noticed WTXL running Gray's Anatomy in HD (or at least widescreen since I don't have an HD set yet) last night.

Thanks Alan. We're looking into it.

At some point over the weekend we'll be testing the new WSWG HD transmitter. Would be interested to hear if/how it comes in out in Dawson...and any other parts of South Georgia.

CM

So you finally got the electricians in and installed the transformer.
The guy from Thales was getting tired of being call off on doing the install.

Thanks Alan. We're looking into it.

At some point over the weekend we'll be testing the new WSWG HD transmitter. Would be interested to hear if/how it comes in out in Dawson...and any other parts of South Georgia.

I'll keep checking DT 43 over the weekend. I don't really get that good a signal from WSWG (analog), so it will be interesting to see what kind of signal I get from WSWG-DT. I'll let you know.

Thanks for looking into the guide information! I'll let you know when I'm getting correct information! :)

~Alan

Hell may have frozen over, but you can't yet buy tickets to see hell's hockey team.

According to usually unreliable insider info--The site at Metcalf is now fixed. There is correct PSIP, and they can do HD. BUT getting the switch to happen requires the mostly untrained monkeys in Little Rock to be able to push a button. They are trying to get the switch to be automatic.

My suggestion was to let them switch it manually and let me publish the number for master contol in Little Rock here. Perhaps maybe, probably not.

ABC has college football this weekend, sigh. At least FSU/Miami is on ESPN-HD Monday.

Hell may have frozen over, but you can't yet buy tickets to see hell's hockey team.

According to usually unreliable insider info--The site at Metcalf is now fixed. There is correct PSIP, and they can do HD. BUT getting the switch to happen requires the mostly untrained monkeys in Little Rock to be able to push a button. They are trying to get the switch to be automatic.

My suggestion was to let them switch it manually and let me publish the number for master contol in Little Rock here. Perhaps maybe, probably not.

ABC has college football this weekend, sigh. At least FSU/Miami is on ESPN-HD Monday.


Thanks for the info. I guess trained monkeys are better than no HD at all. What about audio - do they have the audio problem fixed? And is it 2.0 or 5.1? I am hoping they have things (HD) working mostly OK by the time "Lost" starts up in October.

Has anyone got more on whether CW might be available on Comcast in HD anytime soon?

Good Morning America was on in HD this morning it sounded OK. It’s not in 5.1, WTWC is the only OTA station I get that indicates it’s in 5.1.

In the event of a miracle and WTXL got their act together as far as HD is concerned does someone have to let Comcast know or if WTXL were to broadcast a college football game in HD will it automatically be in HD on Comcast channel 231?

Seems there have been some changes and new transmission sites. From Cairo, GA, what directions are the towers now located. Did I understand that WTXL is now transmitting from Metcalf, GA? What about WSWG, WTLH, WTWC?

I see WTXL has not managed to broadcast football in HD yet.

I'm brand new to the Comcast HD STB and I must say I am highly impressed with the ESPN HD channels, but how can Comcast call a local station such as WTXL on channel 231 a HD Channel when it looks no better than it's analog feed on channel 7???

What's really amazing is that while watching ESPN-HD on channel 202, it's showing replays of the GT/ND game in HD and with 5.1 audio. :confused:

Grey's Anatomy was recorded on my Tivo last night (first time since it was switched back to 27-1 which has guide info).
It was in HD 16x9 but only DD 2.0.

I'll keep checking DT 43 over the weekend. I don't really get that good a signal from WSWG (analog), so it will be interesting to see what kind of signal I get from WSWG-DT. I'll let you know.

I checked several times each day over the weekend, and received a steady "0" on my signal meter every single time.

BTW, Tallahassee is now DMA #108 (up from #109).

~Alan<~~~~~~~~Who now lives in DMA #145 (up from #147, which was down from #145)...

I'm brand new to the Comcast HD STB and I must say I am highly impressed with the ESPN HD channels, but how can Comcast call a local station such as WTXL on channel 231 a HD Channel when it looks no better than it's analog feed on channel 7???

That's because, despite rumors to the contrary, WTXL is still broadcasting just an analog signal out of WFSU. They are supposed to have HD capability, but it appears their monkey interns have not yet completed their "certified trained monkey" courses, so don't hold your breath. It may be the end of the year, or early next year, before WTXL moves into their new studios and get HD working more than occasionally.

Dang--I tried, really I did.
I changed the monitor they use for WTXL lobby to be only digital (off cable) hoping against hope that if they saw how truly ugly their digital feed is, they might fix it.
Took less than an hour to have them demand that I put it back to the analog feed.
Sigh :(

Thanks for looking into the guide information! I'll let you know when I'm getting correct information! :)

I'm now receiving correct guide information for MyNetworkTV programming on WCTV-DT2. WSWG analog is correct, but still no guide information at all for WSWG-DT.

~Alan

Dang--I tried, really I did.
I changed the monitor they use for WTXL lobby to be only digital (off cable) hoping against hope that if they saw how truly ugly their digital feed is, they might fix it.
Took less than an hour to have them demand that I put it back to the analog feed.
Sigh :(

You really assumed they would know how to fix it? LOL!

They can't even get 2.0 audio to work full time, and I suspect HDTV is a lot more comlicated than that.

Am I really seeing HD on WTXL? I seem to be receiving HD the last two nights via CNS cable in Cairo.

Hello all.

I'm in east Tallahassee and recently bought a new HD TV with a built-in HD Tuner. I realized quickly after connecting it to my (very) basic cable that I was receiving HD sydication of the major networks in the digital channels .. for example, NBC is 85-1. I usually get 720p, but occationally will get 1080i for national programming.

The more interesting part, is that I am actually able to browse other digital channels (between 79-1 and 85-1) and will occationally receive other HD content. I have determined that I'm actually viewing other people's comcast-on-demand service .. because we'll be watching a movie and it will pause/ffwd/rwd.

I'm just wondering if this is something that has specifically happened to me .. or if there are other recorded cases of this "issue?"

If anybody wants a list of the digital channels that I receive, I'll be happy to supply it.

Getting the local HD broadcasts comes with the Comcast analog service, as well as the occassional OnDemand programming from your neighbors. I was suprised by the same 'bonus' goodies a few months back and folk on this forum let me know the deal. Lot of good info on the Tally HDTV scene can be found here. If you have kids with sensitive eyes, be careful with the OnDemand stuff, there can be some pretty racy stuff being watched by your neighbors.

BTW, I'm familiar with a Mr. Junglecat on some sportscar racing forums, you would'nt be the same person?

ps. If you get up into the 100's-#, you get the digital music channels as well

Getting the local HD broadcasts comes with the Comcast analog service, as well as the occassional OnDemand programming from your neighbors. I was suprised by the same 'bonus' goodies a few months back and folk on this forum let me know the deal. Lot of good info on the Tally HDTV scene can be found here. If you have kids with sensitive eyes, be careful with the OnDemand stuff, there can be some pretty racy stuff being watched by your neighbors.

BTW, I'm familiar with a Mr. Junglecat on some sportscar racing forums, you would'nt be the same person?

ps. If you get up into the 100's-#, you get the digital music channels as well

This is news to me, although I don't have an ATSC tuner, just the Comcast HDDVR. I have VOD of course, but how exactly do you get VOD or PPV programming ordered by neighbors? What channel does it show up on (channel 1?).

This is news to me, although I don't have an ATSC tuner, just the Comcast HDDVR. I have VOD of course, but how exactly do you get VOD or PPV programming ordered by neighbors? What channel does it show up on (channel 1?).

VOD programming ordered by your neighbors will appear on sub channels between about 80-85

This is news to me, although I don't have an ATSC tuner, just the Comcast HDDVR. I have VOD of course, but how exactly do you get VOD or PPV programming ordered by neighbors? What channel does it show up on (channel 1?).

We ended up getting it when we bought a Samsung HD DLP. Did the initial channel scan and discovered several 'preminium' movies that would FF, RW, or just plain stop. Also started getting several of the local channels' HD content as well as the digital music in the 100's sub channels.

VOD programming ordered by your neighbors will appear on sub channels between about 80-85

On which tuner?

On which tuner?

I have a Sony KDF-60XS955. I assume it is a QAM tuner. I am not real sure about the different types of tuners.

At some point over the weekend we'll be testing the new WSWG HD transmitter. Would be interested to hear if/how it comes in out in Dawson...and any other parts of South Georgia.

This weekend, I was able to get a signal from WSWG-DT.

I first noticed this on Saturday afternoon, but didn't receive a signal strong enough to receive any picture, so I kept checking it throughout the day. However, since it was rainy and cloudy (which tends to affect what I can receive), I was skeptical as to whether or not my signal was what I would normally receive from WSWG-DT. Saturday night, at one point, I checked my signal, and sure enough, I got channel info (WSWG-DT, WSWG-D2), and then, shortly after that time, I received a picture.

Saturday Afternoon: Using a DirecTV HR10-250 (HD-TiVo), I received a signal usually around 20-30, but with constant signal drops making it 25 one second, 0 the next.
Saturday Night: Using a DirecTV HR10-250 (HD-TiVo), I received a signal usually around 30-40, but with constant signal drops making it 35 one second, 60 the next, and 0 the next. I left my HD-TiVo on for several hours, leaving it on WSWG-DT (44-1), and came back to check on it occasionally, and I did pick up WSWG-DT several times that night (showing tennis on CBS), but usually for only 30 minutes at a time, then cutting out.
Sunday Afternoon: Same as Saturday afternoon.
Sunday Night: I didn't leave it on, I didn't check my signal, but nothing on the channel.
Monday (Today) - Noon: No signal whatsoever.

I rotated my antenna (UHF-only Channel Master) 360 degrees, and the signal didn't get any better.

DirecTV's newest HD receivers, (H20, HR20) have better OTA tuners in them than the HR10-250, so it's possible that whenever I get an HR20, that my signal will be better.

My antenna is 12-13 feet off the ground, and it's possible that with it raised, I would get a better signal, but I have no intention of raising it any further off the ground (both our household and our neighbors have had our antennas struck by lightning, and I do not wish for it to happen again). Besides, up until a few weeks ago, I was receiving WCTV-DT with a signal ranging from 80-98 from 73 miles away, so I see no reason to raise it up any higher.

BTW, still no guide data for WSWG-DT or WSWG-D2 on DirecTV HD receivers.

~Alan

DirecTV's newest HD receivers, (H20, HR20) have better OTA tuners in them than the HR10-250, so it's possible that whenever I get an HR20, that my signal will be better.Note that the HR20's OTA tuners are not active. DirecTV plans to activate them via a software update sometime in the future.

Note that the HR20's OTA tuners are not active. DirecTV plans to activate them via a software update sometime in the future.

Yes, I am aware of that. I'm intending to call DirecTV this Friday to order a HR20 (if I can get a good enough deal), and if I do, I intend on using the HD-TiVo for OTA usage, and the HR20 for satellite until they activate the OTA tuners, and then move the HR10-250 into the other room to use for SD recording (and OTA recording since DirecTV doesn't offer SD-LIL here).

~Alan

This weekend, I was able to get a signal from WSWG-DT.

Alan-
Thanks so much for the update.
Chris

Alan
Thanks so much for the update.

No problem! Can you say whether or not WSWG-DT plans to go any higher power, or is this the highest its going to get?

Also, even though I can't get WSWG-DT reliably, can you please see what you can do about adding WSWG-DT and WSWG-D2 to Tribune Media Services guide information for the DirecTV folks that can receive WSWG-DT? I'd really appreciate it! :)

~Alan

We're at approximately 70% power right now. Hope to get it cranked up soon.

At some point over the weekend we'll be testing the new WSWG HD transmitter. Would be interested to hear if/how it comes in out in Dawson...and any other parts of South Georgia.

CM
Thought you might like to know, last night (early this a.m.) WSWG was booming up here at Macon. I'm sure it had everything to do with atmospheric conditions, but it's still encouraging. The reason I'm sure it was atmospheric conditions is, I usually get WXTX and WLTZ from Columbus after dark, with occassional pic's from WTVM and WRBL. But, last night they were nowhere to be found. I did some channel surfing around 10 p.m. and was getting WCTV and WSST, but nothing else to my south. Later, in another channel search, about 1 a.m., I was still getting WCTV, but not WSST. And, I was now getting WSWG. I've gotten it before, but only once or twice. Maybe when you get to full power, I'll be able to give a better report.

Al

Thought you might like to know, last night (early this a.m.) WSWG was booming up here at Macon. I'm sure it had everything to do with atmospheric conditions, but it's still encouraging. The reason I'm sure it was atmospheric conditions is, I usually get WXTX and WLTZ from Columbus after dark, with occassional pic's from WTVM and WRBL. But, last night they were nowhere to be found. I did some channel surfing around 10 p.m. and was getting WCTV and WSST, but nothing else to my south. Later, in another channel search, about 1 a.m., I was still getting WCTV, but not WSST. And, I was now getting WSWG. I've gotten it before, but only once or twice. Maybe when you get to full power, I'll be able to give a better report.

Al

Thanks Al, you made my day!
Chris

Why is WCTV NOT showing Wheel Of Forture & Jepoardy in HDTV. Also My NetworkTV no HDTV. And WHY no 5.1 audio???

Why is WCTV NOT showing Wheel Of Forture & Jepoardy in HDTV. Also My NetworkTV no HDTV. And WHY no 5.1 audio???

Most affiliates are not capable of showing syndicated fare in HD... so don't expect to see WOF or Jeapordy in HD for a couple of years.

MyNetworkTV is a sub-channel of WCTV-DT. They have a choice. Show MNTV in HD or show CBS... they chose CBS.

As for the 5.1 audio, $$$... nuff said!!

~Alan

I spoke with Mike Plummer at WTXL and he confirmed that they are broadcasting HD OTA but not on Comcast because of problems with the auto switcher. He said they will go HD on Comcast when the auto switcher has been fully tested and works right. He was not sure when that would be but hopefully it will be shortly. The new station is still in the construction permitting phase, BTW.

I spoke with Mike Plummer at WTXL and he confirmed that they are broadcasting HD OTA but not on Comcast because of problems with the auto switcher. He said they will go HD on Comcast when the auto switcher has been fully tested and works right. He was not sure when that would be but hopefully it will be shortly. The new station is still in the construction permitting phase, BTW.

I guess that is good news but it is pretty lame for us Comcast users. Thanks for the update.

All the parts except the Antenna are on site. Once the antenna arrives the fun will begin. Should be running by the end of Sept.

Any luck yet getting that antenna?

Any luck yet getting that antenna?


All will be on site on the 21st then we go to work.....

Hey Guys,

I really need your help. I just got the HD DVR Motorola box and am having 2 problems. First off - the lower channels look like crap. I think this might be a signal problem

2nd - I have tried programming the remote with every motorala code and it works fine except for the stretch / zoom button. How do I get this button to work? Is it not possible to adjust the picture through the cable box?

Thanks guys,

Tony

Two questions:

1) This may have been answered recently, but I don't have time to read through the pages I missed.
Has there been an update on when we will get ABC HD back up? These football games in analog suck! :(

2) I know this is probably against Comcast TOS. But has anyone tried to open there Motorolla digi box up and replace the 20gig hard drive with a bigger drive? Wondering if it is a straight swap? HD movies have almost filled my drive and I'm running out of room. Comcast either needs to upgrade these boxes or I'd like to see if I can swap in my own HDD while I am renting the box.

Thanks

The Setup button doesnt even work with this Motorola box with all the codes>

Is this normal?

Thanks,

Tony

Two questions:

1) This may have been answered recently, but I don't have time to read through the pages I missed.


Thanks

Good news, others have time to answer your question... Look 6 or 7 posts up. (3 above yours)

tbenson81: This site http://www.cjhengineering.com/DCTHDFAQ.htm will show you how to set your aspect ratio and resolution on the cable box. You should also read this http://www.momathome.com/viewfromhome/2005/06/comcast_dvr_mute_bug.php

I would also recommend setting the cable box to show the time. Every day check the time, if the time is off the box will have locked up. Both of mine seem to lockup at least once a month. When under heavy use I restart it once a week just to prevent it from locking up while recording. When this happens if you don't restart the box it will record until it has filled up the box deleting all the other recordings. Also make sure you get a UPS, nothing sucks more than the power going out to the box and it then taking 2+ hours to redownload the guide data and enable VOD. The swap button the remote lets you change what turner your currently viewing.


Roofus: I've searched about 3 months ago but didn't find anything about changing the drive, but you can look into recording over the Firewire port. I gave up on that because it didn't work very often. Next week I will be returning one of the cable boxes since I just ordered a Series 3 TiVo.

Roofus: I've searched about 3 months ago but didn't find anything about changing the drive, but you can look into recording over the Firewire port. I gave up on that because it didn't work very often. Next week I will be returning one of the cable boxes since I just ordered a Series 3 TiVo.

Faxman: Thanks! I'm in my second to last semester of grad school. Very little time to browse the forums anymore. :(

Attack: Failure across the fire wire port, I have read, may be because of "DRM" or similar security structures built into some of the programming. I've read, that for instance, do to agreements made by say HBO and a studio, they may block some programing from being able to be recorded while other programing is not blocked. Or maybe the fire wire is just unreliable. Either way, I'm unwilling to purchase a D-VHS, etc at this point. I'd rather wait on a recordable BR or Series 3.

On your Series 3, I assume you are getting a cable card from our local Comcast guys. Do you know if Series 3 is equiped with Cable Card 2.0? You may know, but for other, the difference being that Cable Card 1.0 in most current Cable Card enabled tv's/digi boxes only allows cable programing, but Cable Card 2.0 will enable a "guide" and also access to On Demand/Pay-per-view type stuff? If I'm having to give up that stuff just to get more HD storage space, it isn't worth it to me. I'd won't to wait on something that is 2.0 ready.

Thanks!

On your Series 3, I assume you are getting a cable card from our local Comcast guys. Do you know if Series 3 is equiped with Cable Card 2.0? You may know, but for other, the difference being that Cable Card 1.0 in most current Cable Card enabled tv's/digi boxes only allows cable programing, but Cable Card 2.0 will enable a "guide" and also access to On Demand/Pay-per-view type stuff? If I'm having to give up that stuff just to get more HD storage space, it isn't worth it to me. I'd won't to wait on something that is 2.0 ready.

Thanks!


Copied From the Series 3 FAQ (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=315791)
Does the S3 support CableCARD 2.0?
The CableCARD 2.0 specification has not been finalized at this time, so it is not possible to give a final answer. However, the current CC 2.0 proposal requires hardware the S3 does not have. Therefore, the S3, as it stands today, would not be able to support bidirectional communication for CC 2.0 features such as OnDemand or Switched Digital Video. If a 2.0 card is inserted it should fall back to 1.0 with Multi-Stream.

:thumbsup: good info

Is there any way to stretch Non-HD material through the motorola box? I thought it would be the # key but it doesnt work.

For example - many shows on the HD channels are not broadcast in HD and I want to stretch it to take up the whole screen. I dont want to use my tv remote and would like to do this with the motorola box. It has to have a stretch feature.

Thanks!

Is there any way to stretch Non-HD material through the motorola box? I thought it would be the # key but it doesnt work.

For example - many shows on the HD channels are not broadcast in HD and I want to stretch it to take up the whole screen. I dont want to use my tv remote and would like to do this with the motorola box. It has to have a stretch feature.

Thanks!


I don't know of any options to change the zoom on the cable box but try setting the cable box remote to control the TV. Then try and use it to change the zoom options on the TV.

It seems WTXL has quit broadcasting in HD again. I did not see any HD last week or on any football this weekend.

SD is also off the air. It was off at 8 P.M. and is still off at 9:35

They were off the air yesterday evening, into the night, because of weather problems at the Arkansas uplink center.

Al

They were off the air yesterday evening, into the night, because of weather problems at the Arkansas uplink center.

Al

Maybe their trained monkeys are on strike for more bananas! LOL :p

I live in Valdosta, GA and recieve all my local channels from the Tallahassee, FL area. I recieve WTLH in particular for my Fox affiliate, but I do not, however, get locals in HD. I have DirecTV as my sattelite provider.. My TV is able to turn over OTA signal to HD, but I do not know if this would be good for me to try or not. I think im kinda far from my local stations, WTLH especially.

I really just want to get the NFL games on Sunday in hi definition. I am thinking of the best way to get this done. Any help is appreciated, I am very new at this. Thanks, DW

I live in Adel and know that you can receive WCTV in HD with pretty much any rooftop antenna. I cannot get WTWC, but can get WTXL sometimes at night. They will be full power probably next year as well as WALB. WTLH should be up sometime next month.

I live in Valdosta, GA and recieve all my local channels from the Tallahassee, FL area. I recieve WTLH in particular for my Fox affiliate, but I do not, however, get locals in HD. I have DirecTV as my sattelite provider.. My TV is able to turn over OTA signal to HD, but I do not know if this would be good for me to try or not. I think im kinda far from my local stations, WTLH especially.

I really just want to get the NFL games on Sunday in hi definition. I am thinking of the best way to get this done. Any help is appreciated, I am very new at this. Thanks, DW


I live off Bemiss near Moody. I can get CBS OTA and ABC. I have an amplified DB8 antenna. ABC stays in the 60's to 70's signal range. But when they do not flip their switch. ABC drops out. I have an HR10-250. All waivers were denied by local affiliates for HD DNS channels. I have went to the extend of emailing, calling and going to the station themselves. All were denied. And they do not respond to email.

Good luck with your quest to get HD locals.

Is WCTV-DT (6.1) off the air, 6.2 is also off? I'm in Lake Park.

All will be on site on the 21st then we go to work.....

I saw the PSA on Fox and the article in the Democrat about the new setup. Sounds like a pretty serious undertaking. Let's see who's the first to report a true OTA HD signal... Sometime Monday if the reports are correct and all goes as planned. :D

Good luck WTLHFOXHD!

I saw the PSA on Fox and the article in the Democrat about the new setup. Sounds like a pretty serious undertaking. Let's see who's the first to report a true OTA HD signal... Sometime Monday if the reports are correct and all goes as planned. :D

Good luck WTLHFOXHD!

You got that article anyone on the web to link to? Thanks

You got that article anyone on the web to link to? Thanks

Won't be Monday. But look for us closer to Friday. The company supplying the Microwave system screwed up every thing they could and I won't see the equipment until some time next week. This project is taking on the look of the last one done by one of the other Tallahassee stations. I need to post a picture of there microwave hut that will explain all. (last was for cmtall)

I will try to give a heads up to look for the digital the night before we go hot with it.

I receive WCTV-DT (CBS) via MediaCom in Valdosta. Most of todays NFL Colts vs Jags was in SD rather than HD. At one point durning the end of the game some nerd tried to inject a car commercial during a ongoing play. Anyone else see these problems or is this a local Valdosta Mediacom screw-up? :mad:
Ross

Nope, WCTV was once again having serious audio problems which they have about once a week. They put the game in SD for a while so that the audio would sound better but gave up at halftime.

I receive WCTV-DT (CBS) via MediaCom in Valdosta. Most of todays NFL Colts vs Jags was in SD rather than HD. At one point durning the end of the game some nerd tried to inject a car commercial during a ongoing play. Anyone else see these problems or is this a local Valdosta Mediacom screw-up? :mad:
Ross

Yeah I saw it. I think the reason it was in SD was that the sound was completely messed up when it was in HD. I don't know what the deal was.

The problem is with WCTV I turned to WCTV (OTA) Friday to see if Wheel Of Fortune was in HD, got nothing! It has been off ever sense. My Network on 6.2 is also off

well abc is totally off the air now

Won't be Monday. But look for us closer to Friday. The company supplying the Microwave system screwed up every thing they could and I won't see the equipment until some time next week. This project is taking on the look of the last one done by one of the other Tallahassee stations. I need to post a picture of there microwave hut that will explain all. (last was for cmtall)

I will try to give a heads up to look for the digital the night before we go hot with it.
Wouldn't be MRC, would it?

well abc is totally off the air now

Mike Plummer at WTXL (ABC) said they lost the satellite feed from Little Rock because of storms up there. Apparently the trained monkeys used by their contractor are afraid of lightning and hid in a closet until the storm was over. Unfortunatley it washed out "Desperate Housewives" except for the last 5 minutes or so. He said they are trying to get permission to rebroadcast it locally, possibly Wednesday at 7PM, so look for it. You can also view the episode at ABC.com on your computer, and I may try that tonight.

Won't be Monday. But look for us closer to Friday.

Will "The CW" be on 49.2 this week (if it's not already)?

~Alan

You got that article anyone on the web to link to? Thanks

Heres the link: Article (http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060922/BREAKINGNEWS/609220412)

But see a few posts up for an update from WTLHFOXHD

All is right with the world. I got my HD Tivo last night :D . Hopefully, Comcast will actually be by today to install the CableCards.

Much better HD off air tuner than the Samsung 165 I had been using. Added WALB-DT to my viewing. Nice signal strength metering - also does a tone which rises in pitch when the signal gets better - would be good for adjusting antenna when you can't see the tv.

All is right with the world. I got my HD Tivo last night :D . Hopefully, Comcast will actually be by today to install the CableCards.

Much better HD off air tuner than the Samsung 165 I had been using. Added WALB-DT to my viewing. Nice signal strength metering - also does a tone which rises in pitch when the signal gets better - would be good for adjusting antenna when you can't see the tv.

You lucky devil! You got a TiVo Series 3, did you?

I'm jealous as I'm going to have to get one of DirecTV's new DVRs soon to record HD (though I will be moving my DirecTV HD-TiVo to another SDTV). I'll probably get a TiVo Series 3 next year to record OTA programming, but I'm waiting for the price to go down! Still, LUCKY!!

I've heard that the TiVo Series 3 had a GREAT ATSC tuner in it, but I'm impressed you can pick up WALB-DT with it.

BTW, I have been trying to get guide data information for several station's digital channels (primary digital channel, or a sub-channel) on my DirecTV HD-TiVo, and I've contacted some of the stations about contacting Tribune (who supplies the guide data for TiVo), but so far, nothing has been fixed. I have tried contacting Tribune, but have never received any help from them (they get more done when the stations contact them). TiVo however has their own page to report missing/incorrect channel information, but while I'm a TiVo subscriber (I have a analog stand-alone TiVo as well as the DirecTV TiVos), I don't have a TiVo Series 3, so I don't want to use the page to report these issues regarding digital channels, but since you do, can you please report on these missing sub-channels:

WALB-DT has yet to add guide data for their sub-channel (Digital SD simulcast of their analog channel) on 10-2.

WTXL-DT has yet to add guide data for their sub-channel (though I haven't tried contacting them since I can rarely receive them anyway) on 27-2.

The link is: Report A Lineup Issue (https://customersupport.tivo.com/caseSubmitLineup.asp?). There are more discrepencies in the Albany, GA lineup (WSWG-DT, WSWG-DT2 have no info whatsoever, WSST-DT has information on the TiVo site, but not on the DirecTV HD-TiVo), and I'm hoping that WTLH-DT will add program guide data for "The CW" on 49-2 as soon as they are up to full-power, but with the exception of 49-2, these channels wouldn't be in your OTA guide anyway...

Thanks!
~Alan

All is right with the world. I got my HD Tivo last night :D . Hopefully, Comcast will actually be by today to install the CableCards.

Much better HD off air tuner than the Samsung 165 I had been using. Added WALB-DT to my viewing. Nice signal strength metering - also does a tone which rises in pitch when the signal gets better - would be good for adjusting antenna when you can't see the tv.


Please let me know if you get the cablecards working in the Series 3 TiVo. I had the cards installed on Saturday but only the analog channels and the local HD digital channels worked. They came back out yesterday and I'm now getting all the digital HBO channels but the normal digital channels still don't work.

180 - No audio
202 - No audio
203 - nothing
204 - nothing

From reading the Comcast cablecard install thread (http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=316310). I learned that if you don't get error 161-4 during installation it will not work. TiVo has put up a better Cablecard install guide (http://customersupport.tivo.com/knowbase/root/public/tv010416.htm) it lists two different error messages that you might get, error 161-4 you can ignore.

Hmmm,
I'll have to check. I do know that the HD channels come in. I didn't check all the digital tier. The ones I checked did work. When we installed the cards, the channels I checked were the premium HD channels--HBO, Showtime, ESPN, etc. They all worked.
When they installed the cablecards, I got error 161-4 on both. I had downloaded the install guide from the web, but we used the one sheet guide that was in the box. After they put in the first card and it was working, the voice on the other end talking to the tech wanted him to pull it out because "we don't install them in Tivo's, only tv's) But the tech called someone else at comcast and he said to leave them in if they were working. When I set up the appointment, I was told I would be billed on my cable bill, but the tech wanted a check then.
Oddly, the Tivo would not download the schedules for the digital until I re-did the guided setup--but that only took about 10 minutes because I'm connected through 3 meg DSL.
I'll check the digitals tonight and report.

Is anyone receiving WTLH's full power digital signal? Does anyone have any info?

I know that WTLH .2 channel will be CW but what about WFXU? Are they going to have a digital HD signal anytime soon?

Is anyone receiving WTLH's full power digital signal? Does anyone have any info?

See post #1619 on the previous page of this thread.

OK, I checked. I am missing 10 channels in the digital tier. BUT the cable box shows these channels as temporary unavailable. So the TiVo series 3 (HD) cablecards are working, just low signal - I called and someone will be out tomorrow between 1 & 5.
Note - I only tested one tuner - my assumption (yeah, I know) is that they both work correctly.
Your list - 180 is dead on the TiVo and the cable box. 202 has audio. 203 & 204 are there with vid & aud.

The more I play, the more I love this TiVo. :)

Most affiliates are not capable of showing syndicated fare in HD... so don't expect to see WOF or Jeapordy in HD for a couple of years.

MyNetworkTV is a sub-channel of WCTV-DT. They have a choice. Show MNTV in HD or show CBS... they chose CBS.

As for the 5.1 audio, $$$... nuff said!!

~Alan

Curious, I read elsewhere that this is a storage problem, i.e. not enough hard drive capacity to archive syndicated material. Is that the problem?

Could be. Could also be that they don't want to spend the money for a HD satellite receiver. Could be that they can only deal internally with one HD source.
But, having said that, WCTV is an all new all digital plant. They should have thought ahead.

Thing i don't understand about WCTV is that why do they have so many problems? They have a major audio issue about one every week to two weeks. Most nights they forget to flip the switch. (will they ever go to a system that FOX uses?)

Thing i don't understand about WCTV is that why do they have so many problems? They have a major audio issue about one every week to two weeks. Most nights they forget to flip the switch. (will they ever go to a system that FOX uses?)
Nope, they can't. FOX network actually switches all the FOX stations. CBS (& all other nets) do not--it is up to the individual station to get it right. WCTV is supposed to get automation to make the switches work correctly. Audio correctness requires someone to notice and fix. Maybe, as more people buy HD sets, sponsors will start complaining. You do know that "money talks". Right now, screwing it up constantly has not made either WCTV or WTXL lose money, so they don't really care.

I'm not an HD guru so I'm a little confused about all this TIVO, cable card talk. So you can buy a nice TIVO and Comcast will bring you a cable card that lets you get all the digital channels and the HD channels and I don't have to use the digital cable box Comcast gives you? Does that cable card let you get the local HD stations or do you need an antenna?

Sorry for the newbie question.

I'm not an HD guru so I'm a little confused about all this TIVO, cable card talk. So you can buy a nice TIVO and Comcast will bring you a cable card that lets you get all the digital channels and the HD channels and I don't have to use the digital cable box Comcast gives you? Does that cable card let you get the local HD stations or do you need an antenna?

TiVo just released their Series 3 HD DVR. This box has six (6) tuners, 2 analog, 2 ATSC tuners, and 2 digital cable tuners. You can only use two at a time though (using any combination of the the tuners). You would need TWO CableCards to be able to record two cable programs at this time.

You will be able to receive all the analog/digital channels that Comcast provides you with now (except for VOD & PPV). You do not NEED an antenna, though you can use one to receive channels (analog and digital) that Comcast does not provide.

Comcast will be offering TiVo software later this year on their current boxes, but odds are it will probably be lacking some of the great TiVo features the Series 3 will offer (though VOD and PPV shouldn't be a problem).

To read more about the TiVo Series 3, you can go to www.tivo.com.

Aah... to be able to receive Cable so that the TiVo Series 3 cost would be easier to swallow...

~Alan

A question to WTLHFOXHD: Are you guys responsible for the crappy PQ of CW on Comcast? If so, please explain why an all digital (SD) signal should look so lousy? I have 10 year old video on my VCR that looks better than channel 6 on Comcast. Anything you guys can do to improve it? SDTV should not look that bad, so please explain. At one time the WB channel on Comcast was one of the better looking channels - what the hell went wrong with CW?

Curious, I read elsewhere that this is a storage problem, i.e. not enough hard drive capacity to archive syndicated material. Is that the problem?

This is my understanding as well. It's basically a very expensive HD DVR machine that allows stations to record the HD feed being sent to them, and then offer the show(s) in HD whenever they choose to schedule it.

I am not aware of if WCTV-DT has one of these machines, only that very few affiliates do, and the odds of WCTV-DT being one of them are probably slim...

~Alan

A question to WTLHFOXHD: Are you guys responsible for the crappy PQ of CW on Comcast? If so, please explain why an all digital (SD) signal should look so lousy? I have 10 year old video on my VCR that looks better than channel 6 on Comcast. Anything you guys can do to improve it? SDTV should not look that bad, so please explain. At one time the WB channel on Comcast was one of the better looking channels - what the hell went wrong with CW?

It's possible that Comcast is receiving "The CW" via WFXU and not from WTLH-DT2, or WTLF-DT, which would explain the "crappy PQ".

~Alan

This is my understanding as well. It's basically a very expensive HD DVR machine that allows stations to record the HD feed being sent to them, and then offer the show(s) in HD whenever they choose to schedule it.

I am not aware of if WCTV-DT has one of these machines, only that very few affiliates do, and the odds of WCTV-DT being one of them are probably slim...

~Alan
I also don't know what WCTV has--but--the proper way to do it is to store it on a video server where it is just a big computer file. You only need encode/decode cards which are more expensive than SD encode/decode cards, but definitely cheaper than HD VTRs. Since theirs is a new facility, they probably bought a big server that deals with news clips/editing; commercials and shows. Adding HD to that is not that expensive. But did they do it? Did they think ahead? Inquiring minds want to know.

Alan, thanks for the information.

Guys... After two days of working with DirecTV, I have an upgraded install with HD. So far I have two of the new HD DVR's but plan on adding some other receivers. ESPN-HD is awesome. I was switching between ESPN and ESPN-HD tonight with the SCarolina/Auburn game and HD is incredible.

With that said, what is going on with the locals? I know they aren't available yet on DirecTV but what about OTA? Is WCTV the only station actually broadcasting HD? What about ABC and FOX? Are any of the college or NFL games being broadcast locally in HD? Antennaweb.org shows I can get all of the locals OTA except for FOX. Problem with this is the new HD DVR hasn't enabled the OTA antenna.

If I subscribe to the NFL Ticket, will all the games be in HD?

Thanks!

Guys... After two days of working with DirecTV, I have an upgraded install with HD. So far I have two of the new HD DVR's but plan on adding some other receivers. ESPN-HD is awesome. I was switching between ESPN and ESPN-HD tonight with the SCarolina/Auburn game and HD is incredible.

With that said, what is going on with the locals? I know they aren't available yet on DirecTV but what about OTA? Is WCTV the only station actually broadcasting HD? What about ABC and FOX? Are any of the college or NFL games being broadcast locally in HD? Antennaweb.org shows I can get all of the locals OTA except for FOX. Problem with this is the new HD DVR hasn't enabled the OTA antenna.

If I subscribe to the NFL Ticket, will all the games be in HD?

Thanks!

Congrats on HD.....

Unfortunately, you went with the new HD DVR and you are pretty much out of luck with any Local in HD until they enable OTA. Once they do, you would then might be able to catch Local OTA. As of now, CBS, NBC, ABC are broadcasting though each intermittently have issues and occasionally off line. Fox is very soon broadcasting.

For Sports programming, I can't speak for College football. For NFL, in order to get HD games, not only you have to get ST, you have to get SuperFan as well. That would then only get you about 75% of the games available in HD.

I hope that helps.

I requested a waiver from Fox (I called Directv and they requested it for me). They granted my request and I receive a Fox HD feed from its New York affiliate.

When did you (they) do this?

How is WTLH coming? Figure out the microwave equipment problems yet? Is today's target date still a go? Thanks

well abc is totally off the air now


I hope everything is up and running and they have no problems for the LOST premiere. :confused:

We can probably expect ABC (WTXL) to be up and down and sideways until they get into their new station, hopefully by January. At least we can download prime ABC shows from their website.

For some reason all locals on DirecTV were off around 3:00 p.m.

Well WTLH still hasnt gotten a digital signal out yet. They must be having more equipment problems since they were targeting friday as the date they would be on the air.

A question to WTLHFOXHD: Are you guys responsible for the crappy PQ of CW on Comcast? If so, please explain why an all digital (SD) signal should look so lousy? I have 10 year old video on my VCR that looks better than channel 6 on Comcast. Anything you guys can do to improve it? SDTV should not look that bad, so please explain. At one time the WB channel on Comcast was one of the better looking channels - what the hell went wrong with CW?

They receive the signal on fiber we made no change in our system from WB to CW. At this time I have no time to look into this and once WTLH-DT is up and running I will look into it. (WTLH-DT if all goes will be making power in a week and a half.

They receive the signal on fiber we made no change in our system from WB to CW. At this time I have no time to look into this and once WTLH-DT is up and running I will look into it. (WTLH-DT if all goes will be making power in a week and a half.

Thanks, I look forward to your findings. I notice that CW looks better during the morning and early evening, then seems to degrade during prime time, just as the FOX HD prime shows start up. Is WTLH HD hogging the bandwidth during prime time, leaving CW with less than it needs? Is it possible Comcast is doing something with the signal that is hurting it? Inquiring minds want to know!

Thanks again.

When did you (they) do this?

About a year ago (may be 11 months ago)

About a year ago (may be 11 months ago)Thanks.

Thanks, I look forward to your findings. I notice that CW looks better during the morning and early evening, then seems to degrade during prime time, just as the FOX HD prime shows start up. Is WTLH HD hogging the bandwidth during prime time, leaving CW with less than it needs? Is it possible Comcast is doing something with the signal that is hurting it? Inquiring minds want to know!

Thanks again.


CW looks like complete ass. As I'm typing this at 2pm in the afternoon its snowy and distorted. Truthfully anything that low on the channel dial comes in that way for some reason.

Is CW being broadcast in HD? Will Comcast add it to the HD lineup. I was really happy when I found out I was getting this channel for Veronica Mars. But there's no point in watching it if it looks like ass.

CW looks like complete ass. As I'm typing this at 2pm in the afternoon its snowy and distorted. Truthfully anything that low on the channel dial comes in that way for some reason.

Is CW being broadcast in HD? Will Comcast add it to the HD lineup. I was really happy when I found out I was getting this channel for Veronica Mars. But there's no point in watching it if it looks like ass.

If that is typical for you it is even worse than my PQ. In fact I suspect you may have a poor or noisy Comcast feed. Poor reception on low analog channels usually means you have a bad or noisy line. I had that problem for months until Comcast finally replaced the tap outside my house and since then things have been fine (or as fine as analog gets), the CW problem notwithstanding. The new line tap improved my internet service also.

If that is typical for you it is even worse than my PQ. In fact I suspect you may have a poor or noisy Comcast feed. Poor reception on low analog channels usually means you have a bad or noisy line. I had that problem for months until Comcast finally replaced the tap outside my house and since then things have been fine (or as fine as analog gets), the CW problem notwithstanding. The new line tap improved my internet service also.

I'll give them a call. Dealing with a service appointment is my least favorite thing to look forward to.

Local stations continue to have problems with audio. Monday night WTWC (NBC) digital audio through my comcast 6412 HD DVR sounded like Stereo 5 instead of DD 5.1. The same soundtrack audio was coming out of all five speakers in my surround system simultaneously. Switching to analog had the same results but it sounded even worse. I called the station this morning and spoke with an engineer, Steve Sheridan, and he said they were aware of the problem that comes and goes. He thinks it is the network feed that is at fault and is trying to track it down. It is a mystery to me why so many stations have problems with the audio, which seems to me should be the easy part of HDTV transmission.

I have on numerous occasions mentioned incorrect DirecTV guide data information which results in recording issues with my DirecTV HD-TiVo and my efforts to correct them. With the exception of WTXL-DT2 (and possibly WTLH-DT2 if they currently have that sub-channel running), Tallahassee's station information is correct.

HOWEVER, since this board is read by people who work for WCTV-DT, I'm going to post a new experience with WSWG-DT.

DirecTV has never had guide information for WVAG-DT or WSWG-DT. You can manually scan for the channel, and it will come up as WSWG-DT and WSWG-DT2, but no program guide information is available making it useless for name-based recording.

A few days ago, I hooked up a older DirecTV HD receiver, and noticed that it had guide information for WSWG-DT2 on 44-2, but whenever I tried to go to that channel, it took me to analog channel 43 (this particular HD receiver also has a analog OTA tuner). A few days later, WSWG-DT2 guide information showed up on my HD-TiVo, and actually takes me to DT 43, but remaps WSWG-DT2 to channel 45-2. No guide information for WSWG-DT AT ALL!! I looked at my old HD receiver, and it still takes me to analog channel 43, but is now remapped to 45-2 as well.

I was told by many people that Tribune Media Services (http://tms.tribune.com/) provided the guide data to DirecTV, so please contact them regarding this problem... to see what kind of guide data I receive for WSWG, click here (http://tvlistings5.zap2it.com/tvlistings/GridAction.do?lineupId=PC%3a31602).

I'm also asking WTLHFOXHD to please pay attention to this topic as I'm hoping to have guide data on WTLH-DT2 (CW) the day it goes full-power since I'm tired of crossing my fingers that I will be able to receive WTVY-DT3 (CW) from Dothan to be able to record my shows. Also, a question to WTLHFOXHD, is WTLH currently broadcasting The CW on 49-2, or are you waiting until you go full power to turn on the sub-channel?

Thanks!
~Alan<~~~~~~~~Who is hoping that DirecTV will soon have ALL the guide data correct...

dsmith,
I have a sound problem as well, but it is when I am in Comcast VOD. When I select a program, there is a Comcast start up and I have sound, but then there is usually a commercial between the Comcast startup and the actual programming.
When the commercial between the two starts, there is a loud pop out of my speakers and all sound dies and never comes back when I enter the actual programming.
I have to shut everything down, as simply returning to live television still gives me no sound.
After restart I go back into VOD, and go to "saved programs," select the program I was trying to watch, and hit "resume program" so that it goes straight into the program without doing the commercial first and I have sound.
This is the only way I get sound in VOD. The commercials before the programing screw everything up for some reason. I assumed because the commercial switches off Dolby and can't switch on whatever it is trying to go to, and can't switch back after the commercial.
I am hooked up via optical cable for sound.
Who knows...

dsmith,
I have a sound problem as well, but it is when I am in Comcast VOD. When I select a program, there is a Comcast start up and I have sound, but then there is usually a commercial between the Comcast startup and the actual programming.
When the commercial between the two starts, there is a loud pop out of my speakers and all sound dies and never comes back when I enter the actual programming.
I have to shut everything down, as simply returning to live television still gives me no sound.
After restart I go back into VOD, and go to "saved programs," select the program I was trying to watch, and hit "resume program" so that it goes straight into the program without doing the commercial first and I have sound.
This is the only way I get sound in VOD. The commercials before the programing screw everything up for some reason. I assumed because the commercial switches off Dolby and can't switch on whatever it is trying to go to, and can't switch back after the commercial.
I am hooked up via optical cable for sound.
Who knows...

That sounds like a problem with your Comcast STB and your surround sound receiver, as opposed to a station broadcast problem I have been complaining about. If I were you I would start by swapping out the STB for a new one and see if that helps. I sometimes lose digital output from my STB (Motorola 6412 HD DVR) or it drops out of 5.1 (when available). I have found that turning off the STB for a minute or so will often restart 5.1 digital output. But you have to stop a recording in progress to do that, so if it is a network show wait for a commercial break. It is also possible your receiver is failing to re-establish the digital connection, so turning it off and rebooting after the program begins may fix that (or replacing the receiver). But I would blame everything on Comcast until I was sure otherwise, so call their tech support if the problem continues after you try the above suggestions.

Can't do that. I have too many good HD movies on my STB and no way to transfer them. Not going to give them up for the simple inconvenience of VOD. Just have to deal with it. :/

When will Tallahassee be broadcasting FOX in HD? Im in Valdosta and have Dish Network and am ready to watch some Sunday football in HD. Also, what's the latest on ABC going HD? thanks

When will Tallahassee be broadcasting FOX in HD? Im in Valdosta and have Dish Network and am ready to watch some Sunday football in HD. Also, what's the latest on ABC going HD? thanks

We already get FOX in HD over Tallahassee Comcast, so I guess the problem is with their OTA signal. Go back a few posts and you will see an update on their new transmitter from WTLHFOXHD.

Anyone notice on dish network now they dont use the WFXU channel 57 anymore? They now use WTLF DT channel 24.

When will Tallahassee be broadcasting FOX in HD? Im in Valdosta and have Dish Network and am ready to watch some Sunday football in HD. Also, what's the latest on ABC going HD? thanks

Ditto, I have OTA and Medicom cable. No digital ABC or FOX on either. Paying over $80 a month for two digital network channels (CBS and NBC) is getting old. Anyone know what channel 710 on (Valdosta) Medicom will be? It has been on the guide as "To be announced" for over 60 days. :mad:

Anyone notice on dish network now they dont use the WFXU channel 57 anymore? They now use WTLF DT channel 24.


Yes I have Dish and I noticed it a couple of days ago.

Well WCTV is up to its usual tricks and not showing the miami game in HD

yay, its up at 1:20, only 20 minutes into the game!

Fox is not showing the Eagles/Cowboys in HD. :mad:

Fox is not showing the Eagles/Cowboys in HD. :mad:

Trying to watch TV in high def in Tallahassee is just a never ending nightmare

Trying to watch TV in high def in Tallahassee is just a never ending nightmare

I could not have said it any better. Every weekend there is something. This weekend was worse than usual. You expect the problems with CBS, but usually FOX is solid. I don't know what their deal is today. We will see what adventures we have tonight with NBC.

Hey Fox49 ... any updates on the OTA digital signal?

Considering HD broadcasting started in Tallahassee about 2-3 years ago you would think by now they would be better at it. But not so much.

WTLHFOXHD - CW still looks like crap on Comcast Ch. 6 - hardly even looks digital, more like 2 gen VHS tape, about 200 lines worth. Surely you guys can do better - please?

Trying to watch TV in high def in Tallahassee is just a never ending nightmare
yep, and I was banking on having the games in HD so all the fellas could come over and hang out. eh...just not the same watching it in SD

Do you folks w/Directv get crappy pq from the FOX local (analog)? Ever since I've had locals on sat ,FOX has literally sucked. The engineer that visits here said some time back it's a Directv thing; not placing blame here, just wanna know others' perception. At one time, there was a Directv rep of some sort on here that professed interest. Is he still here, or did he pull a Hank Snow like my reception has?

Do you folks w/Directv get crappy pq from the FOX local (analog)? Ever since I've had locals on sat ,FOX has literally sucked. The engineer that visits here said some time back it's a Directv thing; not placing blame here, just wanna know others' perception. At one time, there was a Directv rep of some sort on here that professed interest. Is he still here, or did he pull a Hank Snow like my reception has?Im using both the DirecTV HR10-250, and the HR20-700 and the Fox SD picture quality is terrible.

The HR20 is slightly better with PQ on Fox, but not much. ABC and The CW are close second- and third-worst channels for picture quality.

Im using both the DirecTV HR10-250, and the HR20-700 and the Fox SD picture quality is terrible.

The HR20 is slightly better with PQ on Fox, but not much. ABC and The CW are close second- and third-worst channels for picture quality.


I have DTV and an HR10-250. Fox is the same OTA for me (Analog). I cannot pick up their digital signal yet. Their signal is darker then the others. I get this both OTA and through satellite. Comcast and Mediacom must use a Video Enhancer to make the channel appear brighter than what it actually is.

Do you folks w/Directv get crappy pq from the FOX local (analog)? Ever since I've had locals on sat ,FOX has literally sucked. The engineer that visits here said some time back it's a Directv thing; not placing blame here, just wanna know others' perception. At one time, there was a Directv rep of some sort on here that professed interest. Is he still here, or did he pull a Hank Snow like my reception has?

Sure do suck. I really do not bother with it.
At least, FOXHD granted me waiver to watch NY Feed.

WTLH in SD has horrible quality for me on both Dish Network and Comcast

Sure do suck. I really do not bother with it.
At least, FOXHD granted me waiver to watch NY Feed.


I just wish that ABC, and NBC would grant a waiver for once. What is soooo funny is that NBC always shows that they provide an HD channel (on Comcast) but they cannot correct their OTA.

Also ABC, still does not have their website up. If you are lucky enough to find their phone number, and call about a waiver. They will deny you stating that they do not grant waivers. I had one of the stations say that they will only go to full power when they have to by the FCC. I cannot remember which one it was. NBC told me that since I live 20 miles outside of their signal area, that they cannot give me a waiver. When I question that answer, the engineer hung up on me.

They want to state that they are the best and have the best, but they do not come through. They want people to invest in them but cannot provide anything back to their viewers. It is all a polictical thing. I guarantee that if I was a big wig in Tallahassee that they would bend over backwards for me. But since I am just a normal person, they just want to screw over the normal people.

I live 22 miles away from WTWC. I run my OTA signal through a Dish 622 and the HD siginal is always solid. It's always better than WCTV which breaks up a lot during daylight hours.

I just recently moved here from Atlanta which is obviously a much bigger market than Tallahasee and I wasn't expecting things like live radar on a sub channel or an HD newscast but something that has bothered me about all the stations here is how they all seem to think that they can do no wrong.

They want to state that they are the best and have the best, but they do not come through.

Yeah, they all seem to have this arrogance to them that they're just as good as any station in the nation but let's just look at last weekend. WTXL hasn't been HD in weeks, WCTV and WTLH just didn't broadcast parts of their sports HD programs in HD and the CW's picture quality is beyond terrible.

I live 22 miles away from WTWC. I run my OTA signal through a Dish 622 and the HD siginal is always solid. It's always better than WCTV which breaks up a lot during daylight hours.
Interesting. I live in Western Suwannee County, and my OTA channels 6/6.1 are almost always great. I have a real old POS antenna, and beaucoupe tall trees.
Strange thing about FM, which is generally considered line-of -sight.
Unfortunately, 6.1/.2 are at this time the only digital I can get from Tally.

boondocks

I just recently moved here from Atlanta which is obviously a much bigger market than Tallahasee and I wasn't expecting things like live radar on a sub channel or an HD newscast but something that has bothered me about all the stations here is how they all seem to think that they can do no wrong.



Yeah, they all seem to have this arrogance to them that they're just as good as any station in the nation but let's just look at last weekend. WTXL hasn't been HD in weeks, WCTV and WTLH just didn't broadcast parts of their sports HD programs in HD and the CW's picture quality is beyond terrible.

Being new to the area you may not be aware that WTXL (ABC) lost their station lease last February and has been camped out at WFSU while they build a new all-digital studio in Gadsden County. I do not expect them to resume HD broadcasting until the new station goes on line in January. While they technically have HD capability now they are unable to get it to work right because their temporary master control center is in Little Rock, AK and staffed by trained monkeys (apparently).

Should have some FOX digital up with CW today no HD yet still setting up muxers. Getting closer, let the complaints loose......

Should have some FOX digital up with CW today no HD yet still setting up muxers. Getting closer, let the complaints loose......

I'm receiving a signal between 20-30 here in Terrell County, GA. I should get a better signal still in a hour or two, but I want to know if you're at 100% power yet?

With a signal currently better than my signal on WTVY-DT3 (which is 0) where I currently record my CW programming, I BEG YOU to PLEASE submit guide data information for WTLH-DT2 (CW) to Tribune Media Services so I can set up my Season Passes. PLEASE!!! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!!

~Alan

I'm receiving a signal between 20-30 here in Terrell County, GA. I should get a better signal still in a hour or two, but I want to know if you're at 100% power yet?

With a signal currently better than my signal on WTVY-DT3 (which is 0) where I currently record my CW programming, I BEG YOU to PLEASE submit guide data information for WTLH-DT2 (CW) to Tribune Media Services so I can set up my Season Passes. PLEASE!!! PLEASE!! PLEASE!!!

~Alan


You can make payment at ......... or just wait a few days as I have the guild builder people setting up what they have to so that I can pass it. As for power yes we are very close to full power if we squeak any more out of it you probably won't see it. Only problem I know of that has to be fixed is the microwave is taking fades and I have to get some one in to sweep the line.

more when I can.

Watching Simpsons on 49-1. Just went from stretched to letterbox. PQ better then SAT though still softon 70" JVC. Signal strength is stable at around 90 on HDTIVO. Looks like a good start.

I'm getting 49-1 and 49-2 in Lake Park! Signal Srtenght 60 - 66 with some break-up.

You can make payment at ......... or just wait a few days as I have the guild builder people setting up what they have to so that I can pass it.

???

As for power yes we are very close to full power if we squeak any more out of it you probably won't see it. Only problem I know of that has to be fixed is the microwave is taking fades and I have to get some one in to sweep the line.

I was hoping that either this wasn't full power, or that my signal would get better, but at this time (7:56 P.M.), my signal is STILL ranging from 20-35 with constant drop-outs to zero.

~Alan

I am getting it full signal but i am getting multipath, i am see if adjusting might work but it could be the microwave signal is still a little off (from what i understand it has to be 100% dead on or you get nothing when it comes to those microwave signals) But the signal coming in for baseball is in HD

I am getting the pre game in HD and 5.1 when it comes in. Even though my siginal strength is between 90 and 95 I am still getting a lot of dropout.

No complaints here because you've been good enough to try to keep us informed and hear our 'input' :rolleyes:

I just added Digital 50 Fox49-D1 and D2 on my Dish 625.
Getting around 74%, but no picture (yet).

Any thoughts as to when you figure things will all be ironed out?

....
oops, spoke to soon, I think my receiver had locked up after adding the channel. I heard something from the other room and walked in and could see 49-1 and 49-2. A bit jumpy, but I know it will improve. :D

Fox49 - Digital signal looks great - 88% on the SE side of town. :)

ABCHD sucks so bad. I can't believe it has taken this long to get back to HD. I want Comcast to give me a freaking credit for all the months it has been off air. Lost looks awful and all the chicks look fat from the stretch. XD

You can make payment at ......... or just wait a few days as I have the guild builder people setting up what they have to so that I can pass it. As for power yes we are very close to full power if we squeak any more out of it you probably won't see it. Only problem I know of that has to be fixed is the microwave is taking fades and I have to get some one in to sweep the line.

more when I can.

Good show. Starting picking up FOX 49.1 here in Valdosta about 5PM yesterday on cheap rabbit ears. Signal is 30-60. May get antenna now that I get three DT over the air (6.1,44.1 and 49.1). :)

Thanks for the updates and good news, WTLHFOXHD!

I just dropped Comcast and got a Dish, putting up an antenna this weekend for OTA HD. From where is the WTLH digital broadcast, Bainbridge?

ABCHD sucks so bad. I can't believe it has taken this long to get back to HD. I want Comcast to give me a freaking credit for all the months it has been off air. Lost looks awful and all the chicks look fat from the stretch. XD
It is not Comcast's fault though your issue should be with WTWC who kicked WTXL out of their shared building. There is nothing Comcast can do about it, but it would be nice if Comcast was to add some new HD channels though.

It is not Comcast's fault though your issue should be with WTWC who kicked WTXL out of their shared building. There is nothing Comcast can do about it, but it would be nice if Comcast was to add some new HD channels though.

They can not charge us as much sense we aren't getting all the channels they claim we are.
I think my bigger problem is that every time I look at my cable bill the price goes up $10.....

WTLHFOXHD

Thanks, and congrats on getting things working at FOX OTA. As a Comcast user your reference to CW was a little cryptic. Should I expect CW to look better on Tally Comcast now? Any chance will/can be HD soon?

Roofus, I feel your pain, but Comcast does not charge extra for local HD stations. I agree they should give us more HD, however, starting with CW and SciFi.

At WCTV we're back to manual HD/SD switching for the time being and it will cause a problem or two due to human error. Remember though that not all of our sports programming is available in HD.

[QUOTE=Alan Gordon]I
HOWEVER, since this board is read by people who work for WCTV-DT, I'm going to post a new experience with WSWG-DT.

DirecTV has never had guide information for WVAG-DT or WSWG-DT. You can manually scan for the channel, and it will come up as WSWG-DT and WSWG-DT2, but no program guide information is available making it useless for name-based recording.

A few days ago, I hooked up a older DirecTV HD receiver, and noticed that it had guide information for WSWG-DT2 on 44-2, but whenever I tried to go to that channel, it took me to analog channel 43 (this particular HD receiver also has a analog OTA tuner). A few days later, WSWG-DT2 guide information showed up on my HD-TiVo, and actually takes me to DT 43, but remaps WSWG-DT2 to channel 45-2. No guide information for WSWG-DT AT ALL!! I looked at my old HD receiver, and it still takes me to analog channel 43, but is now remapped to 45-2 as well.

I was told by many people that Tribune Media Services (http://tms.tribune.com/) provided the guide data to DirecTV, so please contact them regarding this problem... to see what kind of guide data I receive for WSWG, click here (http://tvlistings5.zap2it.com/tvlistings/GridAction.do?lineupId=PC%3a31602).


Alan-
I placed a call to Tribune to try to resolve.
CM

At WCTV we're back to manual HD/SD switching for the time being and it will cause a problem or two due to human error. Remember though that not all of our sports programming is available in HD.
Obviously. NCIS Tuesday did not change to HD until 37 minutes in. Do we have to shoot the operator?

DirecTV has never had guide information for WVAG-DT or WSWG-DT. You can manually scan for the channel, and it will come up as WSWG-DT and WSWG-DT2, but no program guide information is available making it useless for name-based recording.


Alan-
I placed a call to Tribune to try to resolve.

Thanks! I wrote an E-Mail to someone at Tribune last night to try and get some other stations' guide information straightened out... still haven't received a reply back yet... wonder if I will?!

I'M NOW RECEIVING WTLH-DT!!! My signal is ranging from 70-80 making it my fifth (not including sub-channels) full-time digital channel (WALB-DT, WFXL-HD, WRBL-HD & WSST-DT). I'm now just waiting on WTLH-DT2's guide information to come through so that I can set up my Season Passes for WTLH-DT2.

BTW, dsmith, WTLH-DT2's colors are a little washed out, so while I don't know what CW on Comcast looks like, WTLH-DT2 doesn't look that great either... but I'm just SO HAPPY to be able to receive The CW, that I don't care! THANKS WTLH!! :)

~Alan

Obviously. NCIS Tuesday did not change to HD until 37 minutes in. Do we have to shoot the operator?

We'd rather you didn't......

We've had trouble this week (and apparently with the NFL on Sunday....Miami game should have been in HD although not all NFL games are).

CM

ps: any constructive criticism can be directed to "WCTVFeedback@wctv6.com" and it will be directed to relevant department heads.

Also "WSWGFeedback@wswgtv.com" is for any WSWG feedback. This address can also be accessed at WSWGTV.com. We can't make everyone happy but we're doing the best we can. Let us know how we can improve.

CM

Roofus, I feel your pain, but Comcast does not charge extra for local HD stations. I agree they should give us more HD, however, starting with CW and SciFi.


Why do you all insist to ruin my rant? :D

WTLH is still having apparently some microwave problems. The signal is constantly near max, but about every 5-10 or so, the channel breaks up completely for 1-2 minutes though the signal strength of the station is still constantly the same. To me, this looks like some kind of microwave problem on thier part and not a signal reception on mine.

WTLHFOXHD: Does what I explain sound correct? I just want to make sure the problem is not on my end with my antenna, sounds like a microwave problem to me.

We'd rather you didn't......

We've had trouble this week (and apparently with the NFL on Sunday....Miami game should have been in HD although not all NFL games are).

CM

ps: any constructive criticism can be directed to "WCTVFeedback@wctv6.com" and it will be directed to relevant department heads.

Well that sounds like an important tool to help out. Does WCTV see the emails often so that if a program that should be in HD and it isn't that someone will see the emails that come in about it and they can respond quickly? Thanks

BTW, one thing to remind everyone is that this weekend's NFL singleheader on CBS which will be the Buccanears game will NOT be in HD.

WTLH is still having apparently some microwave problems. The signal is constantly near max, but about every 5-10 or so, the channel breaks up completely for 1-2 minutes though the signal strength of the station is still constantly the same. To me, this looks like some kind of microwave problem on thier part and not a signal reception on mine.

WTLHFOXHD: Does what I explain sound correct? I just want to make sure the problem is not on my end with my antenna, sounds like a microwave problem to me.


I run my OTA signal through a Dish 622 I get a signal in the high 90s and I get dropout on WTLH ever 2 - 3 minutes. WTWC and WCTV very seldom dropout.

WTLH is still having apparently some microwave problems. The signal is constantly near max, but about every 5-10 or so, the channel breaks up completely for 1-2 minutes though the signal strength of the station is still constantly the same. To me, this looks like some kind of microwave problem on thier part and not a signal reception on mine.

WTLHFOXHD: Does what I explain sound correct? I just want to make sure the problem is not on my end with my antenna, sounds like a microwave problem to me.

House, you just described an issue that I have noticed today as well. When I noticed the picture breaking up, I went to the signal meter and noticed that even when my signal was still in the 70-80 range, my HR10-250 (DirecTV HD-TiVo) was telling me that the channel was not locked... and it could find the PSIP information to display the channel identification (while the HR10-250 relies on Tribune for guide data instead of the PSIP information, manually scanned channels rely on PSIP information for mapping and call letters). The signal would lock again, I'd get call letters and the picture would come back.

BTW, why does WCTV-DT's PSIP information call WCTV-DT2 ECTV?

~Alan

WTLH is still having apparently some microwave problems. The signal is constantly near max, but about every 5-10 or so, the channel breaks up completely for 1-2 minutes though the signal strength of the station is still constantly the same. To me, this looks like some kind of microwave problem on thier part and not a signal reception on mine.

WTLHFOXHD: Does what I explain sound correct? I just want to make sure the problem is not on my end with my antenna, sounds like a microwave problem to me.
houselog442, I am having the same kind of reception issues that you are describing over here in Hamilton county. There must be some glitch within the system somewhere. The HD does look good from the MLB playoff game tonight. I hope they can get this problem solved soon. Congrats, FOXHD on the new digital setup for WTLH.

I am convinced that this glitch with WTLH is the microwave reciever that tv towers use to get thier signal from the station's studio to their tower. This signal has to be aligned 100% perfectly. A small deviation will totally mess up the signal. This signal may not be 100% aligned, or there is something that is messing up with alignment. Thats the best guess i can think of, but WTLHFOXHD will know what is going on.

.

BTW, why does WCTV-DT's PSIP information call WCTV-DT2 ECTV?

~Alan

ECTV is an acronym created by Nielsen. Any "DT2" station that begins with a "W" as most eastern stations are named with an "E" by Nielsen. It's because some of their internal programs can only handle four letters.

CM

ps: we can probably change it but there are more pressing quality issues that we need to handle first.

Well that sounds like an important tool to help out. Does WCTV see the emails often so that if a program that should be in HD and it isn't that someone will see the emails that come in about it and they can respond quickly? Thanks

It routes through to my box (provided it's not spam....)but I'm usually not checking at night. I do watch a lot of football at my desk on weekends...but if I'm here I always check HD.

We are focused on getting it right so if we've made any mistakes we need to learn from them, not sweep them under the rug.

We're not perfect, but we care and we want to get it right.

CM

We'd rather you didn't......

We've had trouble this week (and apparently with the NFL on Sunday....Miami game should have been in HD although not all NFL games are).

CM

ps: any constructive criticism can be directed to "WCTVFeedback@wctv6.com" and it will be directed to relevant department heads.

Just don't screw up "Ghost Whisperer!" Watching JLH in HD is one of my favorite pastimes. Don't make me hurt you! (LOL) :D

Should have some FOX digital up with CW today no HD yet still setting up muxers. Getting closer, let the complaints loose......

Some feedback for you, re CW on Comcast. Watched "Smallville" Thursday night and saw no improvement in PQ - still lots of analog video noise and low resolution, like 3rd gen VHS. Strangely, reruns of "Still Standing" recorded earlier (Panasonic E80H) on the same channel looked clean (for an analog channel), so what is happening to the prime time CW shows at 8 PM? "Gilmore Girls" and "Veronica Mars" on Tuesday looked the same (equally crappy) as "Smallville." Adjacent cable channel (7) with ABC, as well as lower channels, looked fine, so I think the problem is whatever you are feeding Comcast or whatever they do with what you send them. Any help you can provide will be appreciated. Thanks.

Thanks! I wrote an E-Mail to someone at Tribune last night to try and get some other stations' guide information straightened out... still haven't received a reply back yet... wonder if I will?!

~Alan

Just spoke with someone @ Tribune who acknowledged the mistake with WSWG. He is attempting to get it fixed. Keep me posted please.

CM

WTLH-DT continues to drop out every five to ten minutes in this area. The signal strength is at 90+ on two different receivers. I do not think this is an overload or multi-path issue as I am getting about the same signal strength from WCTV-DT with no drop out issues at all. Any updates from FOXHD or others in the know?

WTLH-DT continues to drop out every five to ten minutes in this area. The signal strength is at 90+ on two different receivers. I do not think this is an overload or multi-path issue as I am getting about the same signal strength from WCTV-DT with no drop out issues at all. Any updates from FOXHD or others in the know?


I am definitely getting overload on WTLH. I use a Winegard GS2000 amplified antenna. I get a signal strength of 95 to 100 on WCTV, WTWC and WTLH when it’s amplified. I get dropout or breakup every 1 - 2 minutes on WTLH but not on the others. When I unplug the amplifier I get 0 signal strength from WCTV and WTWC but I get 72 signal strength from WTLH and a more consistent picture.

Just spoke with someone @ Tribune who acknowledged the mistake with WSWG. He is attempting to get it fixed. Keep me posted please.

I woke up this morning and guide information is now correct for WSWG-DT2 (44-2) with the exception that it's mapped to DT 44 instead of DT 43, and there is still no guide information AT ALL for WSWG-DT (44-1).

While of less importance, www.zap2it.com (http://www.zap2it.com) still lists WSWG-DT2 (44-2) as 45.2 with no 44-1 and TitanTV (www.titantv.com) lists WSWG-DT (44-1) as 43-1, but I just thought you might want to know.

As always, I'm continuing to BEG AND PLEAD WTLHFOXHD to add guide information for 49-2!!

~Alan

WTLH-DT continues to drop out every five to ten minutes in this area. The signal strength is at 90+ on two different receivers. I do not think this is an overload or multi-path issue as I am getting about the same signal strength from WCTV-DT with no drop out issues at all. Any updates from FOXHD or others in the know?

That's what I'm seeing here in South GA, too. I'm line of sight from the Metcalfe tower, getting 95-100 on my Dish 621 and getting frequent dropouts.

That's what I'm seeing here in South GA, too. I'm line of sight from the Metcalfe tower, getting 95-100 on my Dish 621 and getting frequent dropouts.
Same thing in Lake Park, Ga getting 74 - 80 on my D* H20

Another one with severe pixelation problems on 49-1 and 49-2 through my DISH 622. I am in Summerbrooke (North Tallahassee) and WTLH comes in 96-100 (also 96-100 for WCTV-DT with no such issues).

WTLHFOXHD, not piling on, but giving you info in case you need it from different locations. I'd love to see it fixed soon, though (and THANK YOU for your participation on the Board).

Another one with severe pixelation problems on 49-1 and 49-2 through my DISH 622. I am in Summerbrooke (North Tallahassee) and WTLH comes in 96-100 (also 96-100 for WCTV-DT with no such issues).

WTLHFOXHD, not piling on, but giving you info in case you need it from different locations. I'd love to see it fixed soon, though (and THANK YOU for your participation on the Board).


The transmitter still makes it's digital rf when it looses the data stream. The problem is the microwave and we are fixing it. I am also working on getting the guide info for -2 turned on and running. more as I can.

The transmitter still makes it's digital rf when it looses the data stream. The problem is the microwave and we are fixing it. I am also working on getting the guide info for -2 turned on and running. more as I can.
Thanks for keeping us up to date! Any hope of getting CW in HD?

I am also working on getting the guide info for -2 turned on and running. more as I can.

Good to hear WTLHFOXHD... I've got manual recordings set up momentarily until you can get this fixed...

~Alan

I'm eagerly awaiting CW in HD on comcast. Anyone know what channel it will be?

Also, what's the status on ABC? I'm really tired of standard definition. Especially for the new ABC shows i've started watching, like Six Degrees.

Also, what's the status on ABC? I'm really tired of standard definition. Especially for the new ABC shows i've started watching, like Six Degrees.

They probably won't be in HD until January.

Thanks for keeping us up to date! Any hope of getting CW in HD?

CW in HD would be great, but at the moment I would just like to see decent SD. It is clear to me that Comcast is getting CW as an analog signal, not digital. The PQ is full of video noise and low resolution, with compressed dynamics, at least during prime time. This is a strange and perplexing channel, and I wish WTLHFOXHD would comment and give us some hope for an improvement.

This is a strange and perplexing channel, and I wish WTLHFOXHD would comment and give us some hope for an improvement.

Sadly, I think that WTLHFOXHD is busy with us OTA'ers bugging him about the break-ups and guide issues...

~Alan

The transmitter still makes it's digital rf when it looses the data stream. The problem is the microwave and we are fixing it. I am also working on getting the guide info for -2 turned on and running. more as I can.

He is working on it! Give him time, PLEASE!

Time? How long is enough time? The dropouts on WTLH-DT have been ongoing for about 7 straight days. Surely the problem could be isolated and diagnosed by now. The analog OTA and satellite feed has never been very good for WTLH. I think many of us on this board were hoping that maybe this time the set up would be glitch free, digital wise. The viewers in this area have been very patient with WTLH, in my opinion, given the time frame of past PQ problems (1 to 2 years or more in some cases).

Time? How long is enough time? The dropouts on WTLH-DT have been ongoing for about 7 straight days. Surely the problem could be isolated and diagnosed by now. The analog OTA and satellite feed has never been very good for WTLH. I think many of us on this board were hoping that maybe this time the set up would be glitch free, digital wise. The viewers in this area have been very patient with WTLH, in my opinion, given the time frame of past PQ problems (1 to 2 years or more in some cases).

Personally, I'm just glad to know I'll be able to receive WTLH-DT2 so that I can record The CW... granted it has been a little bit of trouble as the manual recordings of "7th Heaven", "Gilmore Girls" and "Veronica Mars" that I've made over the last several days has left me with only 30 minutes recording time of each show due to the break-ups (and they are hour long shows).

As well as the annoyance of manual recordings (TiVo users are Name-Based recording spoiled), but like I said, I'm just glad to be able to receive it, so I'm willing to give WTLHFOXHD a while before I get mad since it's better than what I used to receive (NOTHING!!), as well as the fact that it's nice to know someone from a station is even on here informing us...

~Alan

CMTally,
I'm curious about the question that came up a week or two back about syndicated fare (i.e. Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy!) in HD. With so many shows that were shot in HD now in syndication (CSI and Alias, for example), we were wondering why a brand new studio can't transmit syndicated HD material. Is it a storage issue?

Personally, I'm just glad to know I'll be able to receive WTLH-DT2 so that I can record The CW... granted it has been a little bit of trouble as the manual recordings of "7th Heaven", "Gilmore Girls" and "Veronica Mars" that I've made over the last several days has left me with only 30 minutes recording time of each show due to the break-ups (and they are hour long shows).

As well as the annoyance of manual recordings (TiVo users are Name-Based recording spoiled), but like I said, I'm just glad to be able to receive it, so I'm willing to give WTLHFOXHD a while before I get mad since it's better than what I used to receive (NOTHING!!), as well as the fact that it's nice to know someone from a station is even on here informing us...

~Alan

Wow, how can you possibly follow the plots of "VMars" with half the program missing? I guess I should be grateful that I do get to see whole programs, even if I suffer eyestrain trying to watch it. There are occasional hiccups with CW on Comcast, however, so whatever is affecting OTA may also be affecting the Comcast feed. FOX on Comcast is usually good in HD, so they must be getting a microwave feed or a direct line feed, so why CW looks so bad I don't understand, unless the FOX HD feed is hogging all the bandwidth, which is what I suspect. Is CW on a sub-channel?

Wow, how can you possibly follow the plots of "VMars" with half the program missing? I guess I should be grateful that I do get to see whole programs, even if I suffer eyestrain trying to watch it. ?

Up until it started getting colder outside, I was receiving WTVY-DT (Dothan, AL's CBS affiliate, owned by Gray like WCTV-DT) who broadcasts MyNetworkTV and The CW as sub-channels, so I was able to record the Season Premiere of VM as well as well as the first two episodes of "7th Heaven" and "Gilmore Girls", but unable to record ANY episode of "Smallville" and "Supernatural". I was unable to record the third episode of "Gilmore Girls" and "Veronica Mars" due the weather as well.

However, I was able to record "7th Heaven", "Gilmore Girls" and "Veronica Mars" this week, but according to my HD-TiVo, only 30-45 minutes was available for each show due to the signal (note that I have signals in the 80s-90s).

As for how I can follow the plots to VM, or any of the other series, I simply borrow the recordings from somebody I know until WTLH-DT2 gets their act together. Besides, with the exception of GG & VM, I'm still catching up on last season's episodes ("Supernatural" through DVD, "7th Heaven" through ABC Family, and Smallville through HD-DVD when it comes out)...

There are occasional hiccups with CW on Comcast, however, so whatever is affecting OTA may also be affecting the Comcast feed. FOX on Comcast is usually good in HD, so they must be getting a microwave feed or a direct line feed, so why CW looks so bad I don't understand, unless the FOX HD feed is hogging all the bandwidth, which is what I suspect. Is CW on a sub-channel?

From the way you're talking about The CW, it sounds to me like Comcast is using WFXU to get their signal... since WTLH-DT2 actually looks pretty good. The colors may be a little washed out compared to WTVY-DT3's sub-channel and the audio sounded mono on a rerun of "Reba" yesterday afternoon, but still pretty far from "eyestrain".

The CW in Tallahassee is on three channels. WTLH-DT2 (49-2) which is a sub-channel, WTLF-DT (24-1) which is NOT a sub-channel, and WFXU (57) which is analog. I can only receive WTLH-DT2, so I can't comment on the PQ/issues with the other channels.

~Alan

CMTally,
I'm curious about the question that came up a week or two back about syndicated fare (i.e. Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy!) in HD. With so many shows that were shot in HD now in syndication (CSI and Alias, for example), we were wondering why a brand new studio can't transmit syndicated HD material. Is it a storage issue?

Yesterday, I was flipping through channels (long story), and I checked out (Wheel Of Fortune) on the ABC affiliate's HD feed out of NY on DirecTV, and sure enough, WOF was in HD, so I tuned to WCTV-DT and noticed that even though it was 4x3, it said HD, and WOF (playing the same time) on WRBL-DT (CBS out of Columbus, GA) was playing it as well, but did not have the HD symbol on the screen?

Or maybe it was the other way around, but I do believe it was WCTV-DT... I'll check again tonight...

As for "Alias" and "CSI", these shows are not syndicated in HD, so that's not WCTV-DT's issue, that's the fault of the people that offer these shows ("Alias" does air in HD on TNT-HD though).

BTW, CMTally, there is still no guide data for WSWG-DT (44-1), and even though WSWG-DT2 (44-2) has guide data mapped to 44-2, that channel takes me to DT44 instead of DT43.

~Alan

From the way you're talking about The CW, it sounds to me like Comcast is using WFXU to get their signal... since WTLH-DT2 actually looks pretty good. The colors may be a little washed out compared to WTVY-DT3's sub-channel and the audio sounded mono on a rerun of "Reba" yesterday afternoon, but still pretty far from "eyestrain".

The CW in Tallahassee is on three channels. WTLH-DT2 (49-2) which is a sub-channel, WTLF-DT (24-1) which is NOT a sub-channel, and WFXU (57) which is analog. I can only receive WTLH-DT2, so I can't comment on the PQ/issues with the other channels.

~Alan

At one time CW on Comcast was on WFXU, but no more. In fact, my Replay PVR guide says WFXU is no longer available on Comcast. And, according to TV Guide the CW is on WTLH-DT. So as I said before, this is one strange Comcast channel. What is stranger still is that syndicated shows earlier in the day on WTLH-DT are fine (for an analog Comcast channel) but as soon as 8 PM comes CW goes into the dump with just god-awful PQ. The question is why, and what/when will something be done to fix it? I wonder if they are getting the CW network feeds via an analog transmission source (and a really bad one). That's about the only explanation I can think of.

[QUOTE=The CW in Tallahassee is on three channels. WTLH-DT2 (49-2) which is a sub-channel, WTLF-DT (24-1) which is NOT a sub-channel, and WFXU (57) which is analog. I can only receive WTLH-DT2, so I can't comment on the PQ/issues with the other channels.

~Alan[/QUOTE]

No WFXU and you could not get WFXU in Tallahassee when it was on.

As for Comcast they get a direct Fiber. I am working with there Eng. to make sure the signal we give them stays the same after the fiber haul.

as for time I have been sick and drop outs and guild info are on my list but getting better falls above both.

No WFXU and you could not get WFXU in Tallahassee when it was on.

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying, but if you're trying to say that WFXU is not carrying CW programming, I apologize as I was going by what the guide information for WFXU on the internet says.

as for time I have been sick and drop outs and guild info are on my list but getting better falls above both.

I'm sorry to hear that, and that's perfectly understandable. Hope you start feeling better soon!

~Alan

WFXU channel 57 (analog) has not been broadcasting for several weeks. The tower is over here in Hamilton county and the signal output has always been very sporadic. Video quality was never very good and the audio was horrible. Some times the station would display nothing but color bars and/or station id info for days. I do not know the reason the broadcast tower is down. As for WTLH-DT, the drop outs over here are worse than ever: About 5 minutes apart, lasting about 2 minutes each, over and over and over. FOXHD, hope you get well soon. Do you have any staff or sub-contractors that can help you with the digital problems?