Originally posted by houselog442
I'm getting really f****** tired of WTWC not having HD for their sunday night football game. The pre-game show so far has had no HD and it probably will have no HD game for the SECOND STRAIGHT WEEK! This is infuriating.

I couldn't agree more. I'm sure NBC (corporate) would love to hear their affiliate (WTWC) isn't running the Sunday Night games in HD after they paid so much for the NFL rights. Brilliant!

I talked to the NBC engineer on Monday.
They are aware of the problem, and are working on it. They are now working with their 5th different HD receiver in order to solve the problem. It is a priority to them, but they think the problem comes from corporate when NBC shifts their signals from NY to Burbank--somehow that causes havoc with their receiver. I believe they were back in HD last night (Tuesday). Hopefully they have solved their problem.

Now, what is the latest with WTXL? They are still in SD. I thought jrcstudios indicated the problem was fixed?

Neon

WTXL's biggest problem is the rock-heads in Little Rock, which apparently are beyond fixing. We will probably have to wait until April or May at the earliest to see ABC in HD on Comcast.

From my converstations with a few of their engineers. This is what I got from them. That they do not want to spend the money to fix the problem until they have to. Meaning that we all will have to wait until the FCC gets involved (the year 2009) and makes all stations go HD. Until then. They will only operate at minimum (if they even do) power.

I think that the CBS station manager is the only station manager that has HDTV. He is probably getting his feed through cable and not OTA or through satellite.

The other station managers do not want to spend the money they have. They are still stuck in the 1950's. They need to understand that this is 2007 (in 8 days) and not the 50's. The world has changed. Inventions and technology has changed.

I guess we all will have to contact their primary affiliates and complain or even refuse to watch their signal until they get their act together.

JRCStudios and FOXHD. This is no blame or disrespect on your behalf. We understand that you are trying. However you only have minimal resources to use since your station managers do not want to cough up the money to get the problems correct. They think that they can take small steps and we will live with it.

OompaLoompa 77

I guess we all will have to contact their primary affiliates and complain or even refuse to watch their signal until they get their act together.


Briefly searching the primary affiliates' websites, I don't see a clear way to contact anyone at the networks about such a problem. Does anybody have any contact information for the national networks?

Sean

Briefly searching the primary affiliates' websites, I don't see a clear way to contact anyone at the networks about such a problem. Does anybody have any contact information for the national networks?

Sean


ABC
WABC New York
7 Lincoln Square
New York, NY 10023
Phone: (212) 456-7777


CBS
WCBS New York
54 West 57th St.
New York, NY 10019
Phone: (212) 975-4321


NBC
WNBC New York
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY 10112
Phone: (212) 664-4444

FOX
WNYW-TV
1500 Harbor Blvd.
Weehawken, NJ 07087
Phone: (201) 348-3292

From my converstations with a few of their engineers. This is what I got from them. That they do not want to spend the money to fix the problem until they have to. Meaning that we all will have to wait until the FCC gets involved (the year 2009) and makes all stations go HD. Until then. They will only operate at minimum (if they even do) power.

I think that the CBS station manager is the only station manager that has HDTV. He is probably getting his feed through cable and not OTA or through satellite.

The other station managers do not want to spend the money they have. They are still stuck in the 1950's. They need to understand that this is 2007 (in 8 days) and not the 50's. The world has changed. Inventions and technology has changed.

I guess we all will have to contact their primary affiliates and complain or even refuse to watch their signal until they get their act together.

JRCStudios and FOXHD. This is no blame or disrespect on your behalf. We understand that you are trying. However you only have minimal resources to use since your station managers do not want to cough up the money to get the problems correct. They think that they can take small steps and we will live with it.

OompaLoompa 77

Does anyone think that the advertisers might be able to help? If yes, who would we need to contact? Does anyone know how much a 10 or 20 second ad on TV might cost?

Does anyone else have any idea's?

BALTIMORE (December 22, 2006) -- Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc.
(Nasdaq: SBGI) announced today that it has agreed to renew the affiliation
agreement with NBC Universal for WTWC-TV in Tallahassee, Florida. The
agreement has a ten-year term that runs through December 31, 2016.

Sinclair Broadcast Group, Inc., one of the largest and most diversified
television broadcasting companies, owns and operates, programs or provides
sales services to 58 television stations in 36 markets. Sinclair's
television group is affiliated with all major networks and reaches
approximately 22% of all U.S. television households. For more information,
please visit Sinclair's website at www.sbgi.net.

I hope NBC is going to force WTWC to have a newscast at 6 & 11 pm and this may also mean NBC Weather Plus is on the horizon.

Saw this on WTXL's web site. Maybe there is hope for HD on ABC.

"This year ABC 27 has started construction of a new digital television facility to be located in Midway, Florida. When this new station is completed, ABC 27 expects to be the first local television station in the Thomasville-Tallahassee market to originate local news in High Definition!"

I saw it to. However, they do not have any info on communicating back to them. The feedback section about the general manager will be kicked back to you as "Delivery Failure".

So I emailed ABC major network. Still no reply.

From my converstations with a few of their engineers. This is what I got from them. That they do not want to spend the money to fix the problem until they have to. Meaning that we all will have to wait until the FCC gets involved (the year 2009) and makes all stations go HD.

Does the FCC mandate HD broadcast? I know they are mandated to go digital in Feb'09 (unless FCC changes the date again), but digital does not necessarily mean HD.

The news on WTXL's website and the industry trends for new broadcast facilities over the last few months lends hope to ABC 27 News HD as soon as they move into their new house.

Good thing they have the anchors that they do.

What will WCTV do to beat this? WCTV would have to run to get the news in HD to beat WTXL.

Also, seems like WSWG has begun airing Eyewitness News as well.

Does the FCC mandate HD broadcast? I know they are mandated to go digital in Feb'09 (unless FCC changes the date again), but digital does not necessarily mean HD.
To the best of my knowledge there is no federal mandate to broadcast in hidef. The mandate is to broadcast in the digital spectrum so the feds can use/sell the analogue spectrum. Whether a particular station broadcasts in hidef will be largely driven by market forces.

To the best of my knowledge there is no federal mandate to broadcast in hidef. The mandate is to broadcast in the digital spectrum so the feds can use/sell the analogue spectrum. Whether a particular station broadcasts in hidef will be largely driven by market forces.

I think the law only requires they turn off their analog transmitters - they can transmit any quality they want as long as it is one of the 17 ATSC digital formats. And nothing has to originate in digital form - they can digitize VHS tape all they want, and there is no minimum bitrate, which probably explains the incredible crud transmitted by the local CW channel on Comcast. I have literally seen third generation copies of low quality VHS tape at the slowest speed that looks better than what CW provides on their network feeds. It is an abomination.

[QUOTE=CapeFish].

What will WCTV do to beat this? WCTV would have to run to get the news in HD to beat WTXL.


I wish WTXL well with HD News but we chose to invest our resources into other facets of the news (for starters, the radar tower in the parking lot was not cheap......).

[QUOTE=CapeFish].

What will WCTV do to beat this? WCTV would have to run to get the news in HD to beat WTXL.


I wish WTXL well with HD News but we chose to invest our resources into other facets of the news (for starters, the radar tower in the parking lot was not cheap......).

But it is 1,000,000 watts............
I love that pitch...

I wish WTXL well with HD News but we chose to invest our resources into other facets of the news (for starters, the radar tower in the parking lot was not cheap......).

It was a couple of nice additions with the Megawatt Doppler and WSI TrueView. Both WCTV/WSWG and WTLH viewers get better coverage of the weather with it, but is there anything in the works over at 6 dealing with the newsroom? Is Halstead all-digital already? If so, then HD wouldn't be such a big leap at least in-studio for things like Live at Five or the Good Morning Show which have interviews.

WTXL is likely going to upgrade their Galileo to HD or switch to another HD system when they move and if they get the Live NEXRAD feed like what the NWS gets at the Love Building, then they will have detailed sweeps (from the area NEXRAD radars) on the screen.

Tally is a 2 horse town (WFSU is a 3rd horse I guess, but they really don't have newscasts) and the front WCTV and trailing WTXL are upgrading alot in very little time.

All we need now is for NBC to force WTWC to start airing newscasts again and you'd have a full-time horse race.

BTW, kudos to WCTV for doing the news at 10 on FOX49 and at 7 on WCTV-DT2.

Thinking about trying to get that over the air HD signal in Tallahassee again. Anyone having any luck receiving it in the Cap Cicle East Appalache PKWY Area? If you can what equitment/antenna are you using? I tried last year with terrible results. 1 station(CBS) about half the time if I was lucky. That was with a indoor/outdoor midrange antenna(located Outdoors) and old Sony Direct TV Receiver, which I have heard since was basically a piece of crap for trying to get the ATSC signal. Tired of being raped by comcast just to get the HD feeds. Might go back to Direct TV if something works.

Thinking about trying to get that over the air HD signal in Tallahassee again. Anyone having any luck receiving it in the Cap Cicle East Appalache PKWY Area? If you can what equitment/antenna are you using? I tried last year with terrible results. 1 station(CBS) about half the time if I was lucky. That was with a indoor/outdoor midrange antenna(located Outdoors) and old Sony Direct TV Receiver, which I have heard since was basically a piece of crap for trying to get the ATSC signal. Tired of being raped by comcast just to get the HD feeds. Might go back to Direct TV if something works.

Have you tried antennaweb? I live out in Chaires, but don't get HD OTA.

You should be able to get WFSU-DT, WCTV-DT, WTWC-DT, WTLF-DT, and WTXL-DT. Only WTLH-DT to wait for.

Have you tried a simple pair of rabbit ears with a new STB? Might work for you. It does for me down south in Cape Coral.

WINTER 2006-2007 TALLAHASSEE DIGITAL TV SUMMARY

WTWC-DT Tallahassee NBC (http://www.wtwc40.com/) - 1080i :) (40.1 NBC40-HD | 40.2 The Tube)
WTXL-DT Tallahassee ABC (http://www.wtxl.tv/) - 720p :confused: (27.1 ABC27-HD | 27.2 ABC27)
WCTV-DT Thomasville CBS (http://www.wctv6.com/) - 1080i :) (6.1 WCTV-HD | 6.2 MyNetworkTV)
WTLH-DT Bainbridge FOX (http://www.fox49.com/) - 720p :) (49.1 FOX49-HD | 49.2 The CW Plus)
WFSU-DT Tallahassee PBS (http://www.wfsu.org/) - 1080i :) (11.1 WFSU-HD | 11.2 4FSU | 11.3 Create | 11.4 FKN)
WTLF-DT Tallahassee CW (http://www.fo49.com) - 480i :( (24.1 The CW Plus)
Key: HD :) | Low Power STA :confused: | SD DIGITAL ONLY :(

Have you tried antennaweb? I live out in Chaires, but don't get HD OTA.

You should be able to get WFSU-DT, WCTV-DT, WTWC-DT, WTLF-DT, and WTXL-DT. Only WTLH-DT to wait for.

Have you tried a simple pair of rabbit ears with a new STB? Might work for you. It does for me down south in Cape Coral.

Tried Aantennaweb they say I am 29 miles from closest tower. Last year they said I was 9 miles from one tower and 21 to others pointing in different directions than today. I don't put much faith in antennaweb. I think they are just triing to sell antenna's. Does anyone know the real location of the broadcast towers here in TLH, and what power they are at? The FCC should keep a current list of this and be updated immediatly on changes. Just don't know where to find it on the web.

Hey everyone. I follow this forum regularly but usually don't add much. Thanks to those who do. I have been paying Comcast $143 a month for internet and cable and I need to cut back. I have to keep internet for work, but the $99 for hundreds of channels I don't watch is just too much. I have 2 HD monitor type tv's (no tuner) so I have 2 HD boxes but only 1 is a DVR. I'm addicted to DVR so I want to keep it. I recall reading way back in this thread that you can get a "basic" package and add HD. The Comcast CSR I talked to seems to think I have to have the full digital service to keep the HDTV channels. Does anyone know if there is a cheap package and what it's called that I can simply add HDTV network channels and DVR to? I know I'll have to sacrifice TNT and ESPN HD channels but once the bowl season is over it doesn't matter too much. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Hey everyone. I follow this forum regularly but usually don't add much. Thanks to those who do. I have been paying Comcast $143 a month for internet and cable and I need to cut back. I have to keep internet for work, but the $99 for hundreds of channels I don't watch is just too much. I have 2 HD monitor type tv's (no tuner) so I have 2 HD boxes but only 1 is a DVR. I'm addicted to DVR so I want to keep it. I recall reading way back in this thread that you can get a "basic" package and add HD. The Comcast CSR I talked to seems to think I have to have the full digital service to keep the HDTV channels. Does anyone know if there is a cheap package and what it's called that I can simply add HDTV network channels and DVR to? I know I'll have to sacrifice TNT and ESPN HD channels but once the bowl season is over it doesn't matter too much. Thanks for any help you can provide.
Same Boat as you. Here is the deal. You can get the basic HD package, but there are drawbacks, NO DVR, must have TV with HD Tuner and a comcast card or a box from comcast or bestbuy that gives you component cables only. Basically kiss the HD-DVR goodbuy. The only way you get DVR is with a digital package($69permonth and up) Looks like the only way to get what we want is the OTA(Over the Air) Signal on a DirectTV/DISH Net HD-DVR. Even then I don't know if the DVR will work on OTA Signals I think they do, but OTA signal is next to impossible unless you live right next to the towers. We are all screwed in TLH until those locals are broadcast in HD on the satilite's. They always tell you by next year we will have Local in HD and they say it every year, and they all LIE.

Thinking about trying to get that over the air HD signal in Tallahassee again. Anyone having any luck receiving it in the Cap Cicle East Appalache PKWY Area? If you can what equitment/antenna are you using? I tried last year with terrible results. 1 station(CBS) about half the time if I was lucky. That was with a indoor/outdoor midrange antenna(located Outdoors) and old Sony Direct TV Receiver, which I have heard since was basically a piece of crap for trying to get the ATSC signal. Tired of being raped by comcast just to get the HD feeds. Might go back to Direct TV if something works.

I live near Tom Brown Park Just off Apalachee PKWY and I have a WineGard GS2000 amplified antenna. I am able to get WTXL, WTWC, WCTV and WTLH all with a 90 + signal and WFSU most of the time with a 60 + signal. All of the big four have very good picture but FOX drops out a lot.

I have seen someplace if you have a QAM tuner in your TV you can hook the cable directly to your TV and scan for local digital signals and pick them up. If an antenna want work and the QAM does you should be able to get the locals for about $12 a month.

WINTER 2006-2007 TALLAHASSEE DIGITAL TV SUMMARY

WTWC-DT Tallahassee NBC - 1080i :) (40.1 NBC40-HD | 40.2 The Tube)
WTXL-DT Tallahassee ABC - 720p :confused: (27.1 ABC27-HD | 27.2 ABC27)
WCTV-DT Thomasville CBS - 1080i :) (6.1 WCTV-HD | 6.2 MyNetworkTV)
WTLH-DT Bainbridge FOX - 720p :confused: (49.1 FOX49-HD | 49.2 The CW Plus)
WFSU-DT Tallahassee PBS - 1080i :) (11.1 WFSU-HD | 11.2 4FSU | 11.3 Create | 11.4 FKN)
WTLF-DT Tallahassee CW - 480i :( (24.1 The CW Plus)
Key: HD :) | Low Power STA :confused: | SD DIGITAL ONLY :(

Where do you get your info on the stations digital broadcast strength? According to the FCC data I can see, the only stations broadcasting at full strength on their digital signal are WCTV and WFSU. Your list seems to indicate that WTWC is now at full power as well. Just curious.

Sean

Where do you get your info on the stations digital broadcast strength? According to the FCC data I can see, the only stations broadcasting at full strength on their digital signal are WCTV and WFSU. Your list seems to indicate that WTWC is now at full power as well. Just curious.

Sean


You might want to try hdtvmagazine.com.

Here you can actually get the strength. and a visual pin point of the towers from your location. You can also add other markets as well.

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/programming/broadcast-market.php?dma_name%5B%5D=Tallahassee-Thomasville

Here you can actually get the strength. and a visual pin point of the towers from your location. You can also add other markets as well.

Thanks for the link. This confirms the FCC data I have. It shows WTWC's transmission power at 9.2kw, whereas WCTV's is at 1,000kw. Are they going to up the power any time before February 2009?

Thanks for the link. This confirms the FCC data I have. It shows WTWC's transmission power at 9.2kw, whereas WCTV's is at 1,000kw. Are they going to up the power any time before February 2009?

I think you are forgetting one thing; WTWC is broadcasting on the low VHF range, while WCTV is broadcasting on the UHF range. Their power requirements are different. The other factor is that WTWC already has told the FCC back in 2005 they have chosen to go back to channel 40 UHF for the post digital transition, that is why there will be no changes with their current channel allotment, since it will not be there in 2 years. WCTV, however has chosen to stay at 46 UHF for their post digital transition and is at full power already since that way, they don't have anything else they need to do.

Thanks for the link. This confirms the FCC data I have. It shows WTWC's transmission power at 9.2kw, whereas WCTV's is at 1,000kw. Are they going to up the power any time before February 2009?

9.2 kw is at rf channel 2 vhf. This is all you will get until the change over then they will convert the analog tx to digital

CW pic quality should improve by end of next week found some problems, now to get them fixed.

I live near Tom Brown Park Just off Apalachee PKWY and I have a WineGard GS2000 amplified antenna. I am able to get WTXL, WTWC, WCTV and WTLH all with a 90 + signal and WFSU most of the time with a 60 + signal. All of the big four have very good picture but FOX drops out a lot.

I have seen someplace if you have a QAM tuner in your TV you can hook the cable directly to your TV and scan for local digital signals and pick them up. If an antenna want work and the QAM does you should be able to get the locals for about $12 a month.

Are you getting the ATSC Digital signal or just the analog? If you are getting the digital what kind of receiver are you using or does your TV have a QAM? My TV does not have a QAM. I just tried again and the only digital I get is PBS with a brand new ATI 650 Digital PVR Card in my PC and a TERK TV 55 amplified antenna outside. Bought the PVR Card just to see if things had changed since last year before I try to sign back up with Direct TV, and they have NOT. I will be returning it promptly. Just about ready to give up on this until next year again. I am resigned to sign back up Direct TV and suffer the ridiculous network TV feeds they receive here in TLH. I remember Channel 49 was like watching TV on rabbit ears with a 1970's model TV. Comcast just charges TOO MUCH.

Are you getting the ATSC Digital signal or just the analog? If you are getting the digital what kind of receiver are you using or does your TV have a QAM? My TV does not have a QAM. I just tried again and the only digital I get is PBS with a brand new ATI 650 Digital PVR Card in my PC and a TERK TV 55 amplified antenna outside. Bought the PVR Card just to see if things had changed since last year before I try to sign back up with Direct TV, and they have NOT. I will be returning it promptly. Just about ready to give up on this until next year again. I am resigned to sign back up Direct TV and suffer the ridiculous network TV feeds they receive here in TLH. I remember Channel 49 was like watching TV on rabbit ears with a 1970's model TV. Comcast just charges TOO MUCH.

I am getting the ATSC digital signal over my antenna my TV does have QAM but it is only good for cable and I don’t have cable. I actually get 12 digital channels over the antenna. WCTV(2), WTXL(2), WTWC(2) WTLH(2) WFSU(4). I have my antenna connected to a Dish VIP 622 it will only pickup digital signals. I can also get the same channels plus the analogs if I connect the antenna directly to my Panasonic plasma TV. My antenna is outside mounted on the Dish mast. Unless you have something blocking your signal from the East you should be able to get the networks.

Thanks for the Info. My Antenna was blocked to the east when I tested. I thought the towers were more located more north than east. That is what antennaweb said anyway. I hope the Direct TV HD-DVR Receiver works as good as the Dish version on the ATSC Signal. That is what I am going with. Sunday Ticket is a rip off, but it is the only way to get the good NFL games.

FCC Tallahassee Digital TV Signal Maps
WTWC-DT: Licensed 9.2 kW on Ch. 2 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT620365.html)
WTXL-DT: DS 2.4 kW on Ch. 22 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DS627339.html) | Licensed 8.7 kW on Ch. 22 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1135699.html)
WTLH-DT: DS 1.66 kW on Ch. 50 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DS1006180.html) | CP 230 kW on Ch. 50 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1130554.html)
WCTV-DT: DS 400kW on Ch. 46 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DS998990.html) | Licensed 1000 kW on Ch. 46 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1079431.html)
WFSU-DT: Licensed 937.8 kW on Ch. 32 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT675203.html)
WTLF-DT: Licensed 24 kW on Ch. 24 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT629040.html) | CP 1000 kW on Ch. 24 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT993228.html)

It would be great if the engineers on this board would post updates to the FCC motions their stations are going through. Happy New Year!

Thanks for the Info. My Antenna was blocked to the east when I tested. I thought the towers were more located more north than east. That is what antennaweb said anyway. I hope the Direct TV HD-DVR Receiver works as good as the Dish version on the ATSC Signal. That is what I am going with. Sunday Ticket is a rip off, but it is the only way to get the good NFL games.


Well, it is North East.

We've had our fun by watching all the bowls in ESPN HD. Now the fun is over as the BCS bowls are all on Fox or ABC. The reason we are watching Penn State and Tennessee right now is the Outback Bowl is the only one we can watch in HD. All the other pictures look like crap with DirecTV. Can we get waivers or convince the DirecTV customer service reps to give us the East Coast locals?

Otherwise, do the HDTV indoor antennas work? I need to get a signal down to my basement.

Thanks!

FCC Tallahassee Digital TV Signal Maps
WTWC-DT: Licensed 9.2 kW on Ch. 2 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT620365.html)
WTXL-DT: DS 2.4 kW on Ch. 22 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DS627339.html) | Licensed 8.7 kW on Ch. 22 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1135699.html)
WTLH-DT: DS 1.66 kW on Ch. 50 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DS1006180.html) | CP 230 kW on Ch. 50 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1130554.html)
WCTV-DT: DS 400kW on Ch. 46 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DS998990.html) | Licensed 1000 kW on Ch. 46 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1079431.html)
WFSU-DT: Licensed 937.8 kW on Ch. 32 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT675203.html)
WTLF-DT: Licensed 24 kW on Ch. 24 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT629040.html) | CP 1000 kW on Ch. 24 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT993228.html)

It would be great if the engineers on this board would post updates to the FCC motions their stations are going through. Happy New Year!

I am pretty sure that WTLH is running licenced now on the 230 KW full tower now. I get the station at full strength, though i do live just 17 miles from the towers. Sometimes the FCC's database does not fully update itself for a while.

I am pretty sure that WTLH is running licenced now on the 230 KW full tower now. I get the station at full strength, though i do live just 17 miles from the towers. Sometimes the FCC's database does not fully update itself for a while.

I wasn't sure so I included both just in case.

BTW, it appears 40.2 will be losing The Tube as Sinclair seems to be dumping it.

9.2 kw is at rf channel 2 vhf. This is all you will get until the change over then they will convert the analog tx to digital

CW pic quality should improve by end of next week found some problems, now to get them fixed.

Since CW video quality can't get much worse.... I notice that some shows on CW Comcast (syndications) that run from 6-7 PM weekdays are of reasonable but not great quality, but at least they don't make my eyes hurt. Then the CW network shows come on at 8 PM, most of them originating in HD ("where available") and instead of improved PQ they actually look like crap - much worse than the syndicated shows. What is the problem with the CW network feed to local area? I see tons of artifacts and what looks like analog (RF?) noise, constant flucuations in brightness and resolution, noise bands that come and go, and overall low resolution, like I am watching a 3rd generation VHS tape recorded at the SP speed. And there is still that annyoing audio hum that is part of the audio signal. Tallahasse CW is by far the absolute worst digital station in the history of modern TV transmission, and that 480i designation looks more like 240i to me. Any and all efforts to improve it will be greatly appreciated.

Is anyone out there using a Dish 622 for your OTA signal? I’m using a 622 and I get a clean signal digital signal from WTXL, WTWC and most of the time from WCTV but with WTLH I get constant dropout even though it has a strong signal.

If I hook my antenna up directly to my TV I have no problem with WTLH. I watched the Fiesta Bowl last night with no dropouts. Has anyone else noticed this with their 622?

I have a 622 and have the same problem, with a constant signal of 95-98. I was hoping they just still needed to tweak the microwave transmission and was going to post something for WTLHFOX HD. Generally the other OTA signals work well for me with the 622 (I haven't tried a direct OTA into the tv as the tv with the 622 does not have its own HD tuner)

One thing I have noticed when I switch between my 622 and my TV is the 4X3 content on WTLH HD is stretched to fill the screen on my TV. It shows as 4X3 when I run it through my 622. All the other stations local HD stations’ 4x3 content shows up as 4x3 on my 622 and my TV. I wonder if that might cause a problem for the 622 for some reason.

I am getting the ATSC digital signal over my antenna my TV does have QAM but it is only good for cable and I don’t have cable. I actually get 12 digital channels over the antenna. WCTV(2), WTXL(2), WTWC(2) WTLH(2) WFSU(4). I have my antenna connected to a Dish VIP 622 it will only pickup digital signals. I can also get the same channels plus the analogs if I connect the antenna directly to my Panasonic plasma TV. My antenna is outside mounted on the Dish mast. Unless you have something blocking your signal from the East you should be able to get the networks.

I live in roughly the same area as you, as well as the same receiver and I am trying to get this figured out.

Do you need to run a separate line to the receiver. There isn't a way to tie into the line already run is there?

Thanks!!

I live in roughly the same area as you, as well as the same receiver and I am trying to get this figured out.

Do you need to run a separate line to the receiver. There isn't a way to tie into the line already run is there?

Thanks!!


When I got my receiver my installer ran a separate coaxial from my antenna and it’s connected to the receiver where it says Antenna/CATV. Because of the way mine is setup he had to use a multiplexer in there somewhere.

I just purchased a Phillips Indoor HDTV Antenna at Walmart. Model MANT510. I connected it to my DirecTV HD DVR and am only able to pickup WCTV and FSU channels. My goal is to get FOX so I can at least watch the rest of the BCS bowls in HD. What can I do to resolve this?

curious to see if anyone is seeing HD locals via ota

I just purchased a Phillips Indoor HDTV Antenna at Walmart. Model MANT510. I connected it to my DirecTV HD DVR and am only able to pickup WCTV and FSU channels. My goal is to get FOX so I can at least watch the rest of the BCS bowls in HD. What can I do to resolve this?

The best thing to do is get the original Silver Sensor. If sears does not sell it anymore, Amazon.com has it. It will pick up your channels except for WTWC NBC because it is on channel 2 digitally.

curious to see if anyone is seeing HD locals via ota

WCTV 6.1
MyNetwork TV 6.1
WTLH 49.1
CW 49.2
In Lake Park with an indoor ant. WTLH and CW are sometimes off. They are working on it. They have been more on than off last few days.

WCTV 6.1
MyNetwork TV 6.1
WTLH 49.1
CW 49.2
In Lake Park with an indoor ant. WTLH and CW are sometimes off. They are working on it. They have been more on than off last few days.

CW? I am pretty sure they are not broadcasting in HD in Tallahassee, but I wish to hell they were.

curious to see if anyone is seeing HD locals via ota

I live west of Valdosta (20-25 miles) and I get WTWC, WTXL, and WCTV. WTLH comes in strong (95-98) on my DISH 622 but it drops out too much to be watchable.

I have a 622 and have the same problem, with a constant signal of 95-98. I was hoping they just still needed to tweak the microwave transmission and was going to post something for WTLHFOX HD. Generally the other OTA signals work well for me with the 622 (I haven't tried a direct OTA into the tv as the tv with the 622 does not have its own HD tuner)


Count me in as another 622 owner with the same problem. Maybe we're on to something here!

It seemed good for a day or two after WTLHFOXHD said they had fixed the microwave, but unwatchable since.

WTLHFOXHD, any ideas?

Hello I have discovered a problem many of you already know of and have. The Dish 622 box will lockup/drop out when receiving WTLH Fox49's feed. You probably don't have a problem with your antenna if you receive the other stations without problems.

The problem is on our end and involves timing (pcr). The microwave should not be the problem can't blame it anymore have to find something else.
I am working on it with help from Dish. More as I can.

It won't help if you record but if you have a receiver in your television go it it and you should see the feed without problems.


I will get you digital tv (watchable) before Feb 09 (may in Jan 09 but will be before Feb)

Thanks, WTLHFOX. The sooner the better, as I am finding I am watching other shows in HD when I would rather be watching FOX

Thanks for working on the problem I do get a good picture over my TV receiver. It will be nice to be able to record FOX also.

Hey WTLHFOXHD, I also have the same problem with my 622 which is very frustrating with a 80-90 signal. I read on another board about the same problem with a FOX station out of Austin, Texas. Could it be something in the FOX stream. Maybe they figured it out in Austin. It could be some place to check. By the way did you mean by Feb 09 or 07?

That must be why alot of people are having problems with WTLH and I have not had any. I use my TV's built in digital tuner to pick up the channels.

Hello I have discovered a problem many of you already know of and have. The Dish 622 box will lockup/drop out when receiving WTLH Fox49's feed. You probably don't have a problem with your antenna if you receive the other stations without problems.

The problem is on our end and involves timing (pcr). The microwave should not be the problem can't blame it anymore have to find something else.
I am working on it with help from Dish. More as I can.

It won't help if you record but if you have a receiver in your television go it it and you should see the feed without problems.


I will get you digital tv (watchable) before Feb 09 (may in Jan 09 but will be before Feb)


I am not sure exactly what is going on since i have no problems getting WTLH with my tv's built in tuner, but i may have an idea. When I lived in central florida, WCJB ABC in Gainesville was just going up in digital and at the time I was using a Dish 811 HD reciever to tune the channels in. The first few days there were serious problems having dropouts and even problems just changing the channel. I discovered that the PSIP the digital channel sends out to identify the station was messed up on their end, it would send the information and then not send it and then send it again. Some receivers, this problem will screw up the reception of the channel, so that might be a possbile cause of the problem. But my digital tv tuner never had a problem with that station, and it has no problem picking up WTLH HD now.

Thanks WTLHFOXHD! Is there anything we can do from our end? (Like call and complain to Dish or to WTLH?

The new season of 24 and American Idol is almost upon us! :o

WTLHFOXHD,

Did you do anything to the CW feed to Comcast? I checked a recorded program from Tuesday night (VM) and the picture was a lot cleaner than before, but still soft and looked very low-rez. But at least contrast was normal and not washed out like before. Not sure about the audio, though I still heard the hum on a 6 PM program last night (Wednesday).

WTLHFOXHD,

Did you do anything to the CW feed to Comcast? I checked a recorded program from Tuesday night (VM) and the picture was a lot cleaner than before, but still soft and looked very low-rez. But at least contrast was normal and not washed out like before. Not sure about the audio, though I still heard the hum on a 6 PM program last night (Wednesday).


I have started a rewire that will help some. There is still old equipment that will have to stay. And I am afraid that they killing the signal.
more as I can.

I have started a rewire that will help some. There is still old equipment that will have to stay. And I am afraid that they killing the signal.
more as I can.

Thanks. Anyone in management I can contact to complain and put pressure on for improvements?

Thanks. Anyone in management I can contact to complain and put pressure on for improvements?

No it is all on me to get the fix figured out and in place. They want it fixed also. Working on it now..... more as I can

I live in Valdosta and get CBS and NBC in HD on OTA. Was thinking of going to a TERK TV 38 - TV / radio antenna which is a High gain Multi Antenna. Does anyone have this or any other type of outdoor antenna to get Fox 49.1? I want to watch the SuperBowl in HD.

Vinnie

I live between Valdosta and Quitman in a low-lying area surrounded by trees. I use the large Channel Master antenna (can't recall the #) and their best amplifier (again, can't recall the #) and run a separate SAT/TV signal line (no diplexing) and get all of the HD locals, including Fox49. I have recently lost NBC40 and I'm not sure why. I can say that my HD locals started coming in much better after the upgrade to the DirecTV HR20 from the H10. I used to have dropouts but this new box seems to do a much better job stabilizing things.

I've been trolling here for a while and finally decided to join. Lot's of good info here!

I have been receiving my HD locals via my OTA/DirecTV HR20 combination but have recently lost NBC 40.1 It is continually searching for the signal. No problems with the other local HD network broadcasts. I haven't seen any posts with others having this problem, it always seems to be Fox.

Anyone else experiencing this?

I've been trolling here for a while and finally decided to join. Lot's of good info here!

I have been receiving my HD locals via my OTA/DirecTV HR20 combination but have recently lost NBC 40.1 It is continually searching for the signal. No problems with the other local HD network broadcasts. I haven't seen any posts with others having this problem, it always seems to be Fox.

Anyone else experiencing this?


Talked to there eng. combo of low power vhf (2) and weather and NBC network
should have when weather get better :)

No it is all on me to get the fix figured out and in place. They want it fixed also. Working on it now..... more as I can

Okay, but you don't control the budget it appears.

FYI, last night I checked out Smallville on Tally Comcast and PQ was not good, though better than previous weeks. It is broadcast in WS so when PQ is good on WS programs I like to zoom the picture on my TV (42" Panasonic ED plasma) and the best shows still look good. But when I do that on CW shows it just blows up all the bad stuff. On CW last night the zoomed picture showed horizontal lines (bands?) of varying intensity that ruined PQ, as well as the usual RF artifacts I have been seeing. Contrast was closer to normal - in the past I had to adjust contrast to zero to get a decent picture, and reduce brightness as well. The audio hum is still there also. I hope this feedback helps in your fix.

When you are receiveing the Fox49 Fox signal on your 622 and the dropouts start what does it do to the CW 49.2 feed.

When you are receiveing the Fox49 Fox signal on your 622 and the dropouts start what does it do to the CW 49.2 feed.

49.1 and the 49.2 signal look like they dropout and breakup at about the same rate on my 622.

WTLHFOXHD, unfortunately I'll be out until late Sunday so I won't be able to check.

When you are receiveing the Fox49 Fox signal on your 622 and the dropouts start what does it do to the CW 49.2 feed.

622 user here

I just spent a few minutes -1/5/07 5:20pm, raining- looking at both the 49.1 and 49.2. During the time I watched, no dropouts on either of them!

As I recall, previously they both dropped out fairly equally.

I'm getting a signal fluctuation between 70 and 74 currently. When getting dropouts it seemed more like 0 - 90.

Checked the other digitial channels also.

WTWC NBC 40.1, 40.2 Signal 97-99
WCTV CBS - 6.1, 6.2 Signal 95-98
WTXL ABC - 27.1, 27.2 Signal 72-73 (apparently running some sort of dolby test on 6.1. Fixed graphic with a voice reading Right Channel, Left Channel Etc)

Whatever you did WTLHFOXHD, don't undo it :D

622 user here

I just spent a few minutes -1/5/07 5:20pm, raining- looking at both the 49.1 and 49.2. During the time I watched, no dropouts on either of them!

As I recall, previously they both dropped out fairly equally.

I'm getting a signal fluctuation between 70 and 74 currently. When getting dropouts it seemed more like 0 - 90.

Checked the other digitial channels also.

WTWC NBC 40.1, 40.2 Signal 97-99
WCTV CBS - 6.1, 6.2 Signal 95-98
WTXL ABC - 27.1, 27.2 Signal 72-73 (apparently running some sort of dolby test on 6.1. Fixed graphic with a voice reading Right Channel, Left Channel Etc)

Whatever you did WTLHFOXHD, don't undo it :Dnals


I am about to buy a new HDTV and have been trying to read up on the Tallahassee area situation. I am sorry to hear about all the troubles, but I confess, most of what this previous post says is not part of my vocabulary! I have a few questions ...

First of all, the set I am getting has a QAM tuner and I currently get basic analog Comcast. Are all the troubles everyone is having only related to the OTA signals? WIth a QAM tuner, do I need to subscribe to the Comcast HD package, or do any channels come in clear without that? If so which ones?

If I upgrade my Comcast service to include HD, do all the channels come in good? If I am paying extra for HD, I damn sure expect HD!

ALso, what does all this mean:

WTWC NBC 40.1, 40.2 Signal 97-99

What is "The Tube"

Thanks!

I've been out of town for two weeks and I just got a message on my Comcast DVR box that says their contract with Sinclair to broadcast NBCHD is about to expire and they hope to work it out otherwise by February we will not have NBCHD. Anyone have any information on this? What a bunch of crap.

I live in Valdosta and get CBS and NBC in HD on OTA. Was thinking of going to a TERK TV 38 - TV / radio antenna which is a High gain Multi Antenna. Does anyone have this or any other type of outdoor antenna to get Fox 49.1? I want to watch the SuperBowl in HD.

Vinnie

Since you get CBS you will get the superbowl!! :o
I thought it was on fox also till someone else corrected me..

nals


I am about to buy a new HDTV and have been trying to read up on the Tallahassee area situation. I am sorry to hear about all the troubles, but I confess, most of what this previous post says is not part of my vocabulary! I have a few questions ...

First of all, the set I am getting has a QAM tuner and I currently get basic analog Comcast. Are all the troubles everyone is having only related to the OTA signals? WIth a QAM tuner, do I need to subscribe to the Comcast HD package, or do any channels come in clear without that? If so which ones?

If I upgrade my Comcast service to include HD, do all the channels come in good? If I am paying extra for HD, I damn sure expect HD!

ALso, what does all this mean:

WTWC NBC 40.1, 40.2 Signal 97-99

What is "The Tube"

Thanks!

I do not have Comcast but I have heard that if you have a QAM tuner and you hook your cable up directly to the TV you can pickup the local HD channels. I not sure what channels they will come in on. The ABC channel is not on Comcast yet as far as I know. To get any other HD channels you will have to get their HD package.

WTWC NBC 40.1, 40.2 Signal 97-99 - Over the air signal strength

The Tube was a music video on the second WTWC channel.

I upgraded my DirecTV DVR and now it seems not to have enough signal strength to pull in NBC OTA. It is continually saying "searching for Signal. It worked fine with the previous HD DVR. I swapped them out for future planning, and put the old on a non HD TV.

Has NBC lowered its signal strength recently. I know it is broadcasting because I can hook my OTA antenna directly to the TV and get it fine. However I lose the ability to use the dvr for OTA channels.

If I use a splitter on the antenna line and feed oneside directly to the TV and the other to the DVR, there is not enough signal strength on the DVR for NBC, FOX , and of course ABC, so all I get is the CBS channels. On the TV side I can get CBS, NBC, Fox, but not ABC ( but no DVR functionality).

Am I using the proper splitter? Is there a special one for HD channels..or is there such a thing as one that will amplify the signals? Do they even work.

Any word on NBC increasing signal strength or ABC coming up to anything close ot full power?

BTW, I am located north of I-10 between Mahan and Miccosukee

WTLHFOXHD....I sure hope you meant the 9th !!!!!! :rolleyes:

I've been out of town for two weeks and I just got a message on my Comcast DVR box that says their contract with Sinclair to broadcast NBCHD is about to expire and they hope to work it out otherwise by February we will not have NBCHD. Anyone have any information on this? What a bunch of crap.

I got the same message. Sounds like BS.

I upgraded my DirecTV DVR and now it seems not to have enough signal strength to pull in NBC OTA. It is continually saying "searching for Signal. It worked fine with the previous HD DVR. I swapped them out for future planning, and put the old on a non HD TV.

Has NBC lowered its signal strength recently. I know it is broadcasting because I can hook my OTA antenna directly to the TV and get it fine. However I lose the ability to use the dvr for OTA channels.

If I use a splitter on the antenna line and feed oneside directly to the TV and the other to the DVR, there is not enough signal strength on the DVR for NBC, FOX , and of course ABC, so all I get is the CBS channels. On the TV side I can get CBS, NBC, Fox, but not ABC ( but no DVR functionality).

Am I using the proper splitter? Is there a special one for HD channels..or is there such a thing as one that will amplify the signals? Do they even work.

Any word on NBC increasing signal strength or ABC coming up to anything close ot full power?

BTW, I am located north of I-10 between Mahan and Miccosukee

I have a Winegard GS2000 amplified antenna connected to a Dish 622 I usually get 95 + on all the networks. NBC has not changed as far as I know it’s usually always around a 100. I split my signal right at the amplifier(with just a regular splitter I have had for years) and run it to my TV so I can get FOX without dropout. My signal stays the same both on my 622 and my TV. I live just off the Apalachee Parkway near Tom Brown Park.

Here's the deal with Mediacom dropping NBC. It's part of this dispute between Mediacom and Sinclair.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6404769.html

622 user here

I just spent a few minutes -1/5/07 5:20pm, raining- looking at both the 49.1 and 49.2. During the time I watched, no dropouts on either of them!

As I recall, previously they both dropped out fairly equally.

I'm getting a signal fluctuation between 70 and 74 currently. When getting dropouts it seemed more like 0 - 90.

Checked the other digitial channels also.

WTWC NBC 40.1, 40.2 Signal 97-99
WCTV CBS - 6.1, 6.2 Signal 95-98
WTXL ABC - 27.1, 27.2 Signal 72-73 (apparently running some sort of dolby test on 6.1. Fixed graphic with a voice reading Right Channel, Left Channel Etc)

Whatever you did WTLHFOXHD, don't undo it :D

Well, I guess I spoke too soon. Just checked again.

Both 49.1 and 49.2 are dropping out. They seem to be somewhat equal. Small drop outs then a loss of signal, then signal recovery. Signal level bouncing between 72-76 then 0.

Here's the deal with Mediacom dropping NBC. It's part of this dispute between Mediacom and Sinclair.




......mediacom isn't Comcast.....

Altough at the end of the article it says....

Sinclair is in another retrans dust-up with Comcast, with another couple dozen stations slates to be pulled in early March if the two sides can't agree on a price.

WTLHFOXHD... Can you help me get 49 in HD for the BCS National Championship on Monday night? I live out Centerville Road near Bradley's. I can pick up WCTV with the antenna I bought to use with my DirecTV HR20 DVR.

Thanks!!

Yes, I found it very strange, that when I put my older Tivo style HD DVR reveiver from DTV on I get everything, but ABC...but if I put the new unit on, I lose NBC and still do not get ABC, but I get fox and CBS. I suspect I do not have an amplified antenna, even though I spent a good deal on it and the installation. I was hoping to find a contraption that I could use ot amplify the signal from the antenna inside the house either beofre splitting it or before the input to my receiver.

It becomes moot once Tallahassee gets hd Locals by DTV, but my guess is that is at least a year away.

Hi,

I finally purchased a HDTV set. The previous owners of our house had a Winegard GS-1100 (non-amplified) hooked with a combiner to a Direct TV dish. The 4 lines from the Phase III dish are then sent to 4 separate outlets (6 currently presentin house). This situation has created some problems.

1. Antenna - I am able to get CBS, ABC, NBC regularly. Fox comes in some of the time. I can't get WFSU, which is my wife's only desired. I tried a small amplified Radioshack indoor/outdoor antenna, but it didn't work after a day. I am now trying a larger Radioshack outdoor/indoor antenna (model 15-2187). When I hooked it up outside, it worked fairly well. However, I will have to permanently mount it in the attic. The 15-2187 is fairly directional; I may have problems getting the networks at 60-66 degrees and PBS at 241 degrees. I have considered an upgrade of the current antenna to an amplified GS-2200.

There appears to be few long-distant options for HDTV. I was able to get analog signals from Columbus, Dothan, and Panama City. However, these were quite snowy. I do wish that I was able to put up a large roof mounted antenna with a powerful amplifier and rotor.

I check daily for the announcement that Tallahassee locals are scheduled to debut on DirecTV. I hope they hurry up.

2. Right now, we have SD DirecTV with a Micosoft Ulitimate DVR. We are about to upgrade to a HR20. The installer will have to run another cable to the DVR. We also want to add HD and an HR20 to the master bedroom. This will require another cable run. I am hopeful that a masterswitch is available that can feed 7 or so lines and supply OTA to each outlet.

Despite these problems, I am very glad to be aboard!

Yes, I found it very strange, that when I put my older Tivo style HD DVR reveiver from DTV on I get everything, but ABC...but if I put the new unit on, I lose NBC and still do not get ABC, but I get fox and CBS. I suspect I do not have an amplified antenna, even though I spent a good deal on it and the installation. I was hoping to find a contraption that I could use ot amplify the signal from the antenna inside the house either beofre splitting it or before the input to my receiver.

My amplifier and splitter are inside the house.

Don't hold you breath on HD Local into Local. Maybe this century but I doubt it will be this decade.

I got the same message. Sounds like BS.

Here is a link to an article in the Pensacola News-Journal. Mediacom just pulled the plug on the local ABC station there. Sounds like it could happen with Comcast. :mad:
The forum would not allow me to instert the link to the PNJ, but you can Google it and see what it says.

Don't hold you breath on HD Local into Local. Maybe this century but I doubt it will be this decade.


My guy at DirecTv told me to expect the call from them to do the site eval around the end of Jan. Feb. They will be installing there collection eqp. at our site again. I will post when they come to look.

I upgraded my DirecTV DVR and now it seems not to have enough signal strength to pull in NBC OTA. It is continually saying "searching for Signal. It worked fine with the previous HD DVR. I swapped them out for future planning, and put the old on a non HD TV.

Has NBC lowered its signal strength recently. I know it is broadcasting because I can hook my OTA antenna directly to the TV and get it fine. However I lose the ability to use the dvr for OTA channels.

If I use a splitter on the antenna line and feed oneside directly to the TV and the other to the DVR, there is not enough signal strength on the DVR for NBC, FOX , and of course ABC, so all I get is the CBS channels. On the TV side I can get CBS, NBC, Fox, but not ABC ( but no DVR functionality).

Am I using the proper splitter? Is there a special one for HD channels..or is there such a thing as one that will amplify the signals? Do they even work.

Any word on NBC increasing signal strength or ABC coming up to anything close ot full power?

BTW, I am located north of I-10 between Mahan and Miccosukee

I am having the same problem with 40-1. I believe it has something to do with the HR20 as many people across the country are having similar problems with this particular receiver and some local HD OTA broadcasts. I get all of the other HDs and even get the program guide for NBC 40 but no signal on the HR20 - BUT - I can get 40-1 on my older H10 using the same OTA antenna. So by process of elimination, it's the HR20. All you can do is wait for the next software upgrade and hope it fixes the problem.

WTLHFOX HD, got home last night and, as with the other 622 users, my 49.2 also drops out. It was hard to tell if at the same time as 49.1 as as last night as they were both constantly pixelating and dropping the signal. It shows reception above 95.

Thanks for working on this!

I have started a rewire that will help some. There is still old equipment that will have to stay. And I am afraid that they killing the signal.
more as I can.

This is in reference to the CW channel on Comcast. Will re-wiring help with those horizontal lines that make my plasma look like a interlaced CRT? The lines come and go, so I assume it has something to do with a stable signal. Also, can you do anything about the hum on the audio signal?

This is in reference to the CW channel on Comcast. Will re-wiring help with those horizontal lines that make my plasma look like a interlaced CRT? The lines come and go, so I assume it has something to do with a stable signal. Also, can you do anything about the hum on the audio signal?

Ok I give send me an address and a time we can meet I want to see just how bad the CW is on your set.

Ok I give send me an address and a time we can meet I want to see just how bad the CW is on your set.

I sent you a PM.

Got a postcard from Comcast today basically saying that they may be forced into removing WTWC's HD signal from their service on February 5th. Greaaaat.

WTWC may disappear altogether from Comcast soon as Sinclair is asking for money to carry the signal.

Comcast could add WJHG and/or WALB to their cable system...they are both significantly viewed stations in Leon, Wakulla, & Gadsden Counties according to the FCC which should prevent WTWC from forcing Comcast to blackout the NBC programs.

BTW, a note of kudos to all the stations as of late. WCTV's newscasts seem to be going better and their picture has improved on Comcast. WTXL's move was painful, but the promise of the new building and the resolution of the analog signal issues from Little Rock seem to be resolved. WTLH adding the 10pm newscast (benefiting from WCTV's News improvements) and the picture on Comcast is not bad at all. WTWC is providing a good picture but that may soon end. WFSU is delivering the goods by multicasting during the day and then going HD at night. 4FSU and the Digital Channels look good on Comcast.

BTW, I added the Comcast Digital Cable Starter Pack (only a $1.50 more than Basic cable and that includes the digital box) and now I have access to WCTV DT2, C-SPAN2 (got addicted to the Senate proceedings in a Government class...it is just fun to watch), and the WFSU Digital Channels. I think they may be offering a similar deal with the HDTV box and service for just $5 to the Digital Cable Starter Pack so you don't have to get the Digital Basic Service which is around $60.

BTW, free HBO for 3 months (January to April for most) from Comcast. Call them and ask! They offered it to me....but remember that you have to cancel it before the free preview ends or you will be billed the $13-some a month for it. Those with HD boxes would get HBO HD with this I believe.

Also, The CW on Comcast Channel 6 looks good enough to my eye on my analog sets.

UPDATED WINTER 2006-2007 TALLAHASSEE DIGITAL TV SUMMARY

WTWC-DT Tallahassee NBC (http://www.wtwc40.com/) - 1080i :)
(40.1 NBC40-HD | 40.2 The Tube)
Licensed 9.2 kW on Ch. 2 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT620365.html)

WTXL-DT Tallahassee ABC (http://www.wtxl.tv/) - 720p :confused:
(27.1 ABC27-HD | 27.2 ABC27)
DS 2.4 kW on Ch. 22 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DS627339.html)

WCTV-DT Thomasville CBS (http://www.wctv6.com/) - 1080i :)
(6.1 WCTV-HD | 6.2 MyNetworkTV)
Licensed 1000 kW on Ch. 46 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1079431.html)

WTLH-DT Bainbridge FOX (http://www.fox49.com/) - 720p :)
(49.1 FOX49-HD | 49.2 The CW Plus)
CP 230 kW on Ch. 50 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1130554.html)

WFSU-DT Tallahassee PBS (http://www.wfsu.org/) - 1080i :)
(11.1 WFSU-HD | 11.2 4FSU | 11.3 Create | 11.4 FKN)
Licensed 937.8 kW on Ch. 32 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT675203.html)

WTLF-DT Tallahassee CW (http://www.fox49.com) - 480i :(
(24.1 The CW Plus)
Licensed 24 kW on Ch. 24 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT629040.html)

Key: HD :) | Low Power STA :confused: | SD DIGITAL ONLY :(

WTWC may disappear altogether from Comcast soon as Sinclair is asking for money to carry the signal.

Comcast could add WJHG and/or WALB to their cable system...they are both significantly viewed stations in Leon, Wakulla, & Gadsden Counties according to the FCC which should prevent WTWC from forcing Comcast to blackout the NBC programs.



If I remember correctly up until about 9 years ago Tallahassee Comcast actually had 2 NBC's one on Channel 28 which was WALB and Channel 12 WTWC. I think when WTWC started a news broadcast Comcast dropped WALB from the lineup. I don't care where I get my NBC as long as it has a reliable HD broadcast, I don't want to miss Heroes in HD.

From Wikipedia: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WALB) Until 1983, WALB doubled as the NBC affiliate for Tallahassee, Florida. Although WTWC-TV has been Tallahassee's NBC affiliate since then, WALB still provides city-grade coverage to much of the Georgia side of the Tallahassee market and grade B coverage to Tallahassee itself.

I've heard rumous that WTXL is in the process of upgrading its studio to enable it to produce its newscasts in HD... perhaps in time for Feb sweeps. Anyone know about this?

I've heard rumous that WTXL is in the process of upgrading its studio to enable it to produce its newscasts in HD... perhaps in time for Feb sweeps. Anyone know about this?

They are building a new digital facility, but its not expected to be operating until April at the earliest. So maybe we will get ABC in HD for the May sweeps.

If I remember correctly up until about 9 years ago Tallahassee Comcast actually had 2 NBC's one on Channel 28 which was WALB and Channel 12 WTWC. I think when WTWC started a news broadcast Comcast dropped WALB from the lineup. I don't care where I get my NBC as long as it has a reliable HD broadcast, I don't want to miss Heroes in HD.

Would WALB on Comcast be in HD? If so, tell WTWC to go suck an egg!

Would WALB on Comcast be in HD? If so, tell WTWC to go suck an egg!

It looks like WALB has not gone digital yet.

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/video/files/dtvonair.html

I live in Valdosta, GA and use mediacom.. it has WALB in HD

I live in Valdosta, GA and use mediacom.. it has WALB in HD

That is great. Hopefully Comcast will work out something with one of them.

WALB's tower went down in the tragic Military Crash incident along with the FOX station up there. But what stops Comcast from fibering in WALB-HD and WALB 10 to replace WTWC-HD and NBC 40?

Comcast in Tallahassee could carry WJHG and WALB along with WTWC and have no problems doing so with the FCC.

This Tallahassee-Albany-Panama City-Dothan TV area has so many significantly viewed stations according to the FCC that everyone could get 2 CBS, 2 NBC, and possibly 2 ABC stations on cable if the cableco wanted to carry it.

From the FCC Significantly Viewed Stations List (counties in Tallahassee-Thomasville-Valdosta DMA):

Leon
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
+WTLH, 49, Bainbridge, GA
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA
WJHG-TV, 7, Panama City, FL
+WMBB, 13, Panama City, FL

Jefferson
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
+WTLH, 49, Bainbridge, GA
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA

Suwannee
WJXT, 4, Jacksonville, FL
WTLV, 12, Jacksonville, FL (formerly WFGA)
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL

Wakulla
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
+WTLH, 49, Bainbridge, GA
WJHG-TV, 7, Panama City, FL

Taylor
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
+WTWC, 40, Tallahassee, FL

Lafayette
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL

Hamilton
WJXT, 4, Jacksonville, FL
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL

Madison
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA
+WFXL, 31, Albany, GA

Gadsden
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
+WTLH, 49, Bainbridge, GA
WTVY, 4, Dothan, AL
WJHG-TV, 7, Panama City, FL
+WMBB, 13, Panama City, FL

Brooks
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA
+WFXL, 31, Albany, GA

Decatur
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
+WTLH, 49, Bainbridge, GA
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA
+WFXL, 31, Albany, GA
WTVY, 4, Dothan, AL
+WMBB, 13, Panama City, FL

Echols
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA

Grady
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
+WTLH, 49, Bainbridge, GA
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA
+WFXL, 31, Albany, GA

Lanier
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL

Lowndes
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA
+WFXL, 31, Albany, GA

Miller
WTVY, 4, Dothan, AL
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL

Thomas
WCTV, 6, Tallahassee, FL
WALB-TV, 10, Albany, GA
+WFXL, 31, Albany, GA

Hi everyone, I just got an HDTV Tuner card for my PC because I was hoping to beable to record shows in HD. However I haven't been able to pick up anything. I bought a Radioshack 15-2186 Amplified HD antenna and haven't been able to pick up anything other than PBS and FOX.

I have only been able to get ABC and CBS momentarily before it would cut out. I haven't been able to get NBC to pick up at all. I mainly watch NBC too. :( I live at the top of High Road. Any suggestions?

Well I bet lots of people got to agree with me on this one but I think WCTV has done everything they could today to totally piss me off! They decided not to show the HD game of Ohio State vs Tennessee that was a very exciting, close game and instead show a syndicated non-hd game of Florida vs South Carolina that was a boring 40 point blowout! (and everyone knew that was gonna happen) Then to top that they showed the end of the ohio state game in SD and the pregame show in SD.

Ok, they finally opened it up so the football game is up in HD.

Im using a powered Terk silver sensor clone OTA antenna and the DirecTV HR20 receiver. The receiver shows a constant 85%-95% signal on 6-1 and 6-2 for both tuners.

Watching the Colts and Ravens game at the moment and while the picture quality is good (and constant), the audio drops out every few minutes. Not sure if its the receiver, the antenna, or the combination; anyone else experiencing audio issues on WCTV-DT?

Thanks.

Postscript: My signal percent is similar for Fox, but its picture and audio are near perfect.

Ok it looks like ABC is broadcasting OTA in HD right now but for some reason the signal keeps cutting out. This really sucks.

Im using a powered Terk silver sensor clone OTA antenna and the DirecTV HR20 receiver. The receiver shows a constant 85%-95% signal on 6-1 and 6-2 for both tuners.

Watching the Colts and Ravens game at the moment and while the picture quality is good (and constant), the audio drops out every few minutes. Not sure if its the receiver, the antenna, or the combination; anyone else experiencing audio issues on WCTV-DT?

Thanks.

Postscript: My signal percent is similar for Fox, but its picture and audio are near perfect.
I would suspect the HR20 receiver. Lots of people all over the country are having similar problems.
Have you tried resetting the HR20?

What the hell?

Is HD in Tallahassee getting worse by the day or what??

ANd of course, nobody at the station is there to answer the phones. Unbelievable...

I'm near Valdosta and I'm getting the game in HD via my OTA and HR20.

Right now I am getting every local HD channel, but have to use three different Directv boxes to tune them (off the same antenna feed).
THe new HR20 gets only 27.1.
The old Hughes box gets only Fox
A HR 10 gets 6.1, 40.1 and sometimes the others.
Any theories?

What the hell?

Is HD in Tallahassee getting worse by the day or what??

ANd of course, nobody at the station is there to answer the phones. Unbelievable...


If the game comes down in HD we have to pass it. We have no control over this. Unlike 6 there is no button we have to push. As for no one to answer there is only one mco there and we won't let them answer the outside lines.

Both NFL games (CBS and Fox) came through in HD OTA today. The Fox game was flawless, but the CBS game had constant dropouts. Similar posts at dbstalk.com saw the same issues as I posted above for CBS, and a resetting of the HR20 didnt have an effect. I'll upgrade to the newest software version this evening during the beta window, but Im skeptical.

24 had a few dropouts, but not as many as the CBS game this evening.

The game went to HD during the last 2 minutes and OT. Then when 24 game on it was back in SD.

Are you saying there were no problems on your end? That doesn't make sense.

Neon

The game went to HD during the last 2 minutes and OT. Then when 24 game on it was back in SD.

Are you saying there were no problems on your end? That doesn't make sense.

Neon

I watched both the game and 24 on TLH over the air yesterday and everything was in HD for me.

BTW, I added the Comcast Digital Cable Starter Pack (only a $1.50 more than Basic cable and that includes the digital box) and now I have access to WCTV DT2, C-SPAN2 (got addicted to the Senate proceedings in a Government class...it is just fun to watch), and the WFSU Digital Channels. I think they may be offering a similar deal with the HDTV box and service for just $5 to the Digital Cable Starter Pack so you don't have to get the Digital Basic Service which is around $60.




Can you elaborate on what is included in the "starter pack". Is it just added onto the regular analog cable price? Thanks.

The game went to HD during the last 2 minutes and OT. Then when 24 game on it was back in SD.

Are you saying there were no problems on your end? That doesn't make sense.

Neon

How do you get our feed. Offair Comcast? other

I get it through Comcast.
If this is their problem, do they know about it???

Neon

The comcast feed was still in SD for Monday's broadcast of 24.
Does anyone have any info on this???

neon

The comcast feed was still in SD for Monday's broadcast of 24.
Does anyone have any info on this???

neon

I have Comcast as well and 24 was in HD for me for both last night and Sunday night episodes.

I have Comcast as well and 24 was in HD for me for both last night and Sunday night episodes.

Didn't have any problems watching over the air either.

If the game comes down in HD we have to pass it. We have no control over this. Unlike 6 there is no button we have to push. As for no one to answer there is only one mco there and we won't let them answer the outside lines.

Well, doesn't he have enough sense to contact the source control if he is not getting HD as programmed? What the hell is he doing, sleeping? Does anyone monitor him? Sounds like a job I am perfectly qualified for - sleeping at the controls. Any job openings there?

I have Comcast as well and 24 was in HD for me for both last night and Sunday night episodes.


I have Comcast and the entire Bears - Seahawks game was in HD. The Saints - Eagles was also in HD with no problems.

Well, doesn't he have enough sense to contact the source control if he is not getting HD as programmed? What the hell is he doing, sleeping? Does anyone monitor him? Sounds like a job I am perfectly qualified for - sleeping at the controls. Any job openings there?


Come on down I will give you the job, but it does come with all the other responsibilities they have. Hope you plan on sleeping.........

So I take it nobody else in Tallahassee had this problem with FOX-HD and comcast, but me?

Thanks.

So I take it nobody else in Tallahassee had this problem with FOX-HD and comcast, but me?

Thanks.

If you start having HD problems again, check the CBS and NBC HD channels plus like InHD or something on Comcast. If all three of those are in SD too, it's probably your cable box or something on your end.

Come on down I will give you the job, but it does come with all the other responsibilities they have. Hope you plan on sleeping.........

I plan to retire from my job with the state in a few months - maybe Iwill get in touch then (LOL)! Seriously, why would he just accept the SD feed without asking questions? Does he really think it doesn't matter to viewers? Other than watching porn on adjacent satellite feeds (LOL), just what other responsibilities does he have?

WTLHFOXHD, any update on the OTA issues with the 622? Sure would love to see Fox in HD soon without pixelation and loss of signal.

Can you elaborate on what is included in the "starter pack". Is it just added onto the regular analog cable price? Thanks.

Basically you rent a Digital STB to get WCTV2, C-SPAN2, the WFSU Digital channels, the Music Choice Channels, and OnDemand for $1.50 more a month over Regular Analog Cable.

Basically you rent a Digital STB to get WCTV2, C-SPAN2, the WFSU Digital channels, the Music Choice Channels, and OnDemand for $1.50 more a month over Regular Analog Cable.

Does it include local networks (WCTV, WTWC, WTXL, WTLH) in HD also (when they manage to transmit HD)?

So I guess many of you saw WTXL go completely off air for about 30 minutes starting a little after 8 PM Thursday, just as the top rated ABC programs were starting. After about 15 minutes I called and they said an engineer was on the way. I assume someone in Little Rock screwed up again? Anyone know what happened?

Funny that WTXL never has problems staying on air except when top rated shows or FSU football games are being broadcast. If I didn't know better I would say someone at WTXL is sabotaging their service.

Hey WTLHFOXHD, I found this on AVS forums. It looks like it may be a fix for the Dish 622 problem.

The engineer at the Fox station in Memphis has allowed me to share their solution to the problem. Here is his post from the AVS forum:

"The exciter is an Axcera DT2B, and the bad firmware is version 4.25a. The one that we rolled back to is version 4.18c. The issue we have had with that version was that the exciter loses its output when there is a disruption of the SMPTE 310 transport stream input. This, however, happened pretty rarely, and is preferred over lots of people not being able to see American Idol from using version 4.25a!"

WTLHFOXHD

I researched and found the thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9513976&highlight=Axcera+DT2B#post9513976) that sbturner is referring to. VERY promising!


Please let us know what you find out. 24 and American Idol in SD sux!

Does it include local networks (WCTV, WTWC, WTXL, WTLH) in HD also (when they manage to transmit HD)?

You need to rent the HD box which for the $5/month includes some other HD channels other than the locals.

So what you asked is,

Full Basic Cable ($48.95) + HDTV Pack ($5.00) = $53.95+tax

Sinclair's recent retransmission agreement with Time Warner Cable covers WTWC, so the Tall market will not lose the NBC signal in early February. This is good news.

Does anyone have an update as to WTXL's expected date of using their new facility? I have heard both Feb and April.

Neon

Sinclair's recent retransmission agreement with Time Warner Cable covers WTWC, so the Tall market will not lose the NBC signal in early February. This is good news.
Hmm, we are using Comcast so it might not apply here. I'd rather Comcast tells them to take a flying leap and carry WJHG or WALB digital. Keep 40 on 12 analog, but use another for the DT (who knows how to do HD).

Does anyone have an update as to WTXL's expected date of using their new facility? I have heard both Feb and April.

Neon
Last word I hear is that they are moving the news to the new building end of Feb./beginning of March. They will use a news truck and still use Little Rock for master control (read that to mean still no proper switching of the HD)

Anyone in the area got this problem of mine ?

Lately, CBS signal kept on dropping down from 80+ to zero for a second and then back to 80+.

This happens at any time of day. Sometimes it goes hour without problem. Does not seem to be weather related.

I have a CM 3106 (I think) installed in the attic.

Is this problem Multipath ? What would you suggest that I try ?

BTW, It only does this to CBS. It happens on two different receivers (1 D* HDTivo, and 1 Hughes HD Receiver).

TIA.

Several people have mentioned it. Seems like WCTV may be having transmitter problems.

Engineer, anyway for us to let them know ?

I hope to get it squared away by Superbowl. It was unbearable watching AFC Champ Game with the problem.

Hmm, we are using Comcast so it might not apply here. I'd rather Comcast tells them to take a flying leap and carry WJHG or WALB digital. Keep 40 on 12 analog, but use another for the DT (who knows how to do HD).

If Comcast wants to dump 40 off 12 analog as well go right ahead....as long as you get WJHG or WALB in there to fill in.

DO IT COMCAST!

Sinclair needs to improve 40. Improve the HD, get a news department, and get a new owner!

I have had problems with WCTV for a while. Sometimes I get intermitted dropouts and sometimes I don’t but happens with them a lot more than it does with any other station.

Hey WTLHFOXHD

In this thread (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=73419&page=3) over on dbstalk, there is more discussion of the 622 problem.

It looks like Birmingham, and Austin are still having the problem and are also using different equipment than Memphis. Perhaps the three (or more) of you can put your heads together.

If it is an E* problem, there are a bunch of people who can/will put some pressure on for cooperation. If it a national Fox feed problem... Likewise.

We'll probably need to get you all to give us some technical details to help us make our case.

[QUOTE=sbturner]Hey WTLHFOXHD, I found this on AVS forums. It looks like it may be a fix for the Dish 622 problem.

Well WTLHFOXHD in addition to the problem the Dish 622 users are having, another problem with your OTA signal is showing up. The 49.1 digital SD video is not 4:3 but 3:3: or some other ridiculous ratio. What's going on now? :eek:

[QUOTE=sbturner]Hey WTLHFOXHD, I found this on AVS forums. It looks like it may be a fix for the Dish 622 problem.

Well WTLHFOXHD in addition to the problem the Dish 622 users are having, another problem with your OTA signal is showing up. The 49.1 digital SD video is not 4:3 but 3:3: or some other ridiculous ratio. What's going on now? :eek:

I noticed 24 looked like it had been zoomed last night. The FOX logo in the corner was barely visible. Wasn't sure if I was the only one seeing it.

[QUOTE=Ross Moody]

I noticed 24 looked like it had been zoomed last night. The FOX logo in the corner was barely visible. Wasn't sure if I was the only one seeing it.

It's that way most of the time on my TV or at least part of it is cut off.

[QUOTE=Ross Moody]

I noticed 24 looked like it had been zoomed last night. The FOX logo in the corner was barely visible. Wasn't sure if I was the only one seeing it.
I think this is how it is supposed to be, when I watch the Simpsons or Family Guy the FOX logo is in the same location and cut off.

[QUOTE=wdmoody]
I think this is how it is supposed to be, when I watch the Simpsons or Family Guy the FOX logo is in the same location and cut off.

Same here on WFXL-DT. I was told that it had to do with an "overscan" issue of the TV.

I have an old picture of the issue (picture (http://members.aol.com/dreamworker23/100_0239.jpg)) taken a couple of years ago. Notice that the "1" in "31" is off the screen, as is "L" in "WFXL".

What's really annoying is that sometimes, WFXL-DT's logo will appear twice on the screen (once in the corner, and once in the middle part of the screen down at the bottom). Unlike the above issue, this actually is WFXL-DT's problem.

~Alan

[QUOTE=1998Nole]

Same here on WFXL-DT. I was told that it had to do with an "overscan" issue of the TV.

I have an old picture of the issue (picture (http://members.aol.com/dreamworker23/100_0239.jpg)) taken a couple of years ago. Notice that the "1" in "31" is off the screen, as is "L" in "WFXL".

What's really annoying is that sometimes, WFXL-DT's logo will appear twice on the screen (once in the corner, and once in the middle part of the screen down at the bottom). Unlike the above issue, this actually is WFXL-DT's problem.

~Alan

The FOX logo appears that way on every display I have seen, so it is not an overscan issue with any particular set. I assumed it was deliberate as FOX's way of showing the log without imposint itself too much on the screen, which if true they are to be applauded (softly). Network logos are a major gripe with me, especially since they seem to get bigger and more intrusive all the time. But my biggest wish that someone would burn in hell is for whoever thought it was a good idea to use those incredibly annoying moving promos with loud irritating noises that pop up whenever a show comes out of commercial break. I think it is time for the FCC to step in and put some limitations on these things, at least for OTA networks which use public airways.

Engineer, anyway for us to let them know ?

I hope to get it squared away by Superbowl. It was unbearable watching AFC Champ Game with the problem.


engineering@wctv6.com
Be nice. They will help nice people. They will laugh at the rest of you.

So I guess many of you saw WTXL go completely off air for about 30 minutes starting a little after 8 PM Thursday, just as the top rated ABC programs were starting. After about 15 minutes I called and they said an engineer was on the way. I assume someone in Little Rock screwed up again? Anyone know what happened?

Funny that WTXL never has problems staying on air except when top rated shows or FSU football games are being broadcast. If I didn't know better I would say someone at WTXL is sabotaging their service.

You'd think! Me too, as I was out sick with a terrible virus when I got the call and barely had enough energy to crawl to the TV and see "NO SIGNAL" That's my luck, on a day I called in sick.

I had to get my wife to drive me to the transmitter, where I found a bad APC UPS that was no longer working. That power feeds the sat dish that we get the signal from Equity with. It actually wasn't fault with Equity this time. I'll be glad when I can rip out all this "temporary" crap and run our signal ourselves.
--WTXL engineer

You'd think! Me too, as I was out sick with a terrible virus when I got the call and barely had enough energy to crawl to the TV and see "NO SIGNAL" That's my luck, on a day I called in sick.

I had to get my wife to drive me to the transmitter, where I found a bad APC UPS that was no longer working. That power feeds the sat dish that we get the signal from Equity with. It actually wasn't fault with Equity this time. I'll be glad when I can rip out all this "temporary" crap and run our signal ourselves.
--WTXL engineer

First of all a big thank you for the heroic effort to keep us TV junkies getting our fix. I hope you are feeling better - live long and prosper, as they say.

So can you give us any good news regarding the new station, and mainly as to when they expect to get back to HD on Comcast?

Thanks again.

Does anyone know when Tallahassee will be getting The Golf Channel in HD (or at least certain Golf Channel events)?

(There is a thread on this but I'm not allowed to post an actual link until I have 5 posts;-)

Comcast seems to be carrying it in other cities throughout the U.S.

Additionally, are we going to have to wait until the new ABC studios is built nearby to get HD for that channel? Was the 1-day of HD back in November just a tease? Too bad :(

Does anyone know when Tallahassee will be getting The Golf Channel in HD (or at least certain Golf Channel events)?

(There is a thread on this but I'm not allowed to post an actual link until I have 5 posts;-)

Comcast seems to be carrying it in other cities throughout the U.S.

Additionally, are we going to have to wait until the new ABC studios is built nearby to get HD for that channel? Was the 1-day of HD back in November just a tease? Too bad :(

I presume you are a golf fanatic. As for me I would much prefer that any new HD channels be CW, FX, SciFi, and any of the better free movie channels on Comcast. My guess is Tally Comcast ain't gonna do its customers any such favors until pushed by competition from Verizon fiber service (if and when).

Does anyone know when Tallahassee will be getting The Golf Channel in HD (or at least certain Golf Channel events)?

(There is a thread on this but I'm not allowed to post an actual link until I have 5 posts;-)

Comcast seems to be carrying it in other cities throughout the U.S.

Additionally, are we going to have to wait until the new ABC studios is built nearby to get HD for that channel? Was the 1-day of HD back in November just a tease? Too bad :(

1270AM ran an ad this morning from Comcast stating that HD versions of Versus/Golf, National Geographic, HGTV and UHD would be added to Tallahassee Comcast soon. Hopefully this means in the next month.

1270AM ran an ad this morning from Comcast stating that HD versions of Versus/Golf, National Geographic, HGTV and UHD would be added to Tallahassee Comcast soon. Hopefully this means in the next month.

Thanks Texadillo, that's what I was hoping to hear. dsmith, why would you want CW in HD? Are you telling me Channel 6 doesn't come in good for you ;)

I guess I could wait a month or so.

1270AM ran an ad this morning from Comcast stating that HD versions of Versus/Golf, National Geographic, HGTV and UHD would be added to Tallahassee Comcast soon. Hopefully this means in the next month.

No offense to anyone else's viewing habits, but I can't believe Comcast would think more viewers want to see golf, HGTV and National Geo in HD rather than CW, FX, and SciFi!!!

No offense to anyone else's viewing habits, but I can't believe Comcast would think more viewers want to see golf, HGTV and National Geo in HD rather than CW, FX, and SciFi!!!


I agree. I would much rather have FX and SciFi over the announced stations. I will probably watch NG, but not the others. They could throw in FoodTV. :)

dsmith, why would you want CW in HD?

For me it would for Smallville. The feed we currently get from comcast sucks with audio and signal drops during the show. I don't think SCIFi has any HD programming right now, but I could be wrong.

I don't think SCIFi has any HD programming right now, but I could be wrong.

SciFi has announced that they will begin broadcasting in HD sometime this year.

I watch Smallville and Veronica Mars on CW. I used to watch Supernatural but lost interest in it, but I would probably start watching again if it was HD. Some of the best and may favorite TV shows were on the old WB channel: Buffy, La Femme Nikita, Roswell, Angel, Firefly, Dark Angel (I think it was WB) to name a few. Only Smallville and VM meet that level now, but one can always hope for more. WTLHFOXPRO has apparently done something to slightly improve CW quality, but it still sucks compared to other network channels. Right now it is bottom of the barrel of any channel on Comcat in Tallahasse, and that is saying it is pretty damn sorry.

SciFi has announced that they will begin broadcasting in HD sometime this year.

USA and FX networks are also supposed to go HD nationally very soon. So why isn't Comcast adding any of them in HD instead of the HGTV or golf channel? My guess it is the money.

WTLHFOXPRO has apparently done something to slightly improve CW quality, but it still sucks compared to other network channels. Right now it is bottom of the barrel of any channel on Comcat in Tallahasse, and that is saying it is pretty damn sorry.

The quality is less on the HDTV compared to other analog channels, but on my old 30"CRT it is actually one of the better channels as far as picture quality.

Does anybody know why NBA Basketball games don't come in on INHD for Comcast in Tallahassee??

Thanks

I just checked my mail from Saturday and found a flyer from Comcast.

They say they will be adding 6 new HD channels by March 1st.

Golf Channel/Versus HD, A&E HD, FSN HD, MHD (already launched), National Geographic Channel HD, and Universal HD.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9061/comcasthdby4.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comcasthdby4.jpg)

I just checked my mail from Saturday and found a flyer from Comcast.

They say they will be adding 6 new HD channels by March 1st.

Golf Channel/Versus HD, A&E HD, FSN HD, MHD (already launched), National Geographic Channel HD, and Universal HD.



Thanks for posting this. I never seem to get stuff lkike from Comcast. It's good to finally see some new HD channels.

Thanks CapeFish, that's awesome. Will the FSN HD carry the same stuff that is on channel 50 now? Like the Marlins games, etc?

Please excuse, not been on in awhile. Does anyone get DD from CBS via WCTV 6.1 OTA?
Thanks,
boondocks

My receiver indicates WTWC and WTLH broadcast in DD 5.1 and WCTV and WTXL do not. I get all my locals OTA.

I just checked my mail from Saturday and found a flyer from Comcast.

They say they will be adding 6 new HD channels by March 1st.

Golf Channel/Versus HD, A&E HD, FSN HD, MHD (already launched), National Geographic Channel HD, and Universal HD.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9061/comcasthdby4.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=comcasthdby4.jpg)


It boggles the mind that Comcast is wasting precious bandwidth on this (mostly) crap instead of giving us what we want in HD: SciFi, FX, and CW!

FSN is FOX Sports Network, not Florida Sports Network. Anyone know what Universal HD and Versus HD will show (garbage is my guess). The new MHD (Music HD) would be great except they show mainly the worst music groups on the planet, at least none to my taste.

It boggles the mind that Comcast is wasting precious bandwidth on this (mostly) crap instead of giving us what we want in HD: SciFi, FX, and CW!

FSN is FOX Sports Network, not Florida Sports Network. Anyone know what Universal HD and Versus HD will show (garbage is my guess). The new MHD (Music HD) would be great except they show mainly the worst music groups on the planet, at least none to my taste.

Versus is the old OLN. Tallahassee Comcast actually carried UHD while the Olympics were on. It seemed like a TNT clone. Movies, reruns of old series.

Universal HD is mostly movies.

Versus is the old OLN. Tallahassee Comcast actually carried UHD while the Olympics were on. It seemed like a TNT clone. Movies, reruns of old series.

I am not familiar with "OLN." Who, what, the hell are they?

Universal HD is mostly movies.

Actually, it's about 50% movies.

Universal HD has reruns of "Sons And Daughters", "Equalizer", "Northern Exposure", "Law & Order: SVU", "Surface", "Battlestar Galactica" (current series), "Conviction", "Complete Savages", "Monk", "Quantum Leap", "Knight Rider", "Firefly", and "Stargate Atlantis".

While a lot of people make fun of the channel, it's actually very decent if you like movies and some of the above series.

The movies are also uncut, and commercial free.

~Alan

I am not familiar with "OLN." Who, what, the hell are they?

Outdoor Life Network. Due to their association with Hockey, they recently changed their name.

Aren't they owned/co-owned by Comcast?

~Alan

Please excuse, not been on in awhile. Does anyone get DD from CBS via WCTV 6.1 OTA?
Thanks,
boondocks

WCTV has said they have no reason to boardcast in DD 5.1 :mad:

Tallahassee Comcast actually carried UHD while the Olympics were on. It seemed like a TNT clone. Movies, reruns of old series.

One difference being that the majority of TNT-HD's programming is stretched upconverted SD, while UHD is 100% HD (with the exception of some of the commercials).

~Alan

I am guessing FSN-HD will air Magic and Lightning games from Sun Sports (Ch. 28) along with whatever Marlins, Devil Rays, and College Events from FSN Florida (Ch. 50) that are offered in HD.

Either way, I would guess that we shall see an event in HD almost every night during teh summer and many nights in the winter.

It boggles the mind that Comcast is wasting precious bandwidth on this (mostly) crap instead of giving us what we want in HD: SciFi, FX, and CW!

Sci-Fi and FX will be launching HD channels later this year, and DirecTV has already agreed to carry them... as well as A&E, Bravo, Cartoon Network, CNN, Food Network, FX, HGTV, MTV, National Geographic, NFL Network, Speed, TBS, The History Channel, The Weather Channel, and USA Network as HD channels.

Comcast looks like they intend to add a BUNCH of HD channels later this Summer/Fall according to this article (http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcastkiller012507.htm)... of course, this is bad news for those who get their HD from Comcast via CableCard or a TiVo Series 3.

~Alan

WCTV has said they have no reason to boardcast in DD 5.1 :mad:

Yep! That's why I'm glad I can receive two other CBS affiliates that broadcast in DD5.1.

It is interesting that a lot of people have gotten DD because of DVDs, and yet WCTV-DT still has no interest in it.

The CSI shows are worth it alone...

~Alan

Sci-Fi and FX will be launching HD channels later this year, and DirecTV has already agreed to carry them... as well as A&E, Bravo, Cartoon Network, CNN, Food Network, FX, HGTV, MTV, National Geographic, NFL Network, Speed, TBS, The History Channel, The Weather Channel, and USA Network as HD channels.

Comcast looks like they intend to add a BUNCH of HD channels later this Summer/Fall according to this article... of course, this is bad news for those who get their HD from Comcast via CableCard or a TiVo Series 3.

~Alan

How come this is bad for CableCard or TiVo Series 3 owners? Is the article saying you need to switch to the channel on the Comcast cable guide to get the specified HD channel? How would this work with Comcast's DVR then? Hmmm...I know nothing of this technology. I do like hearing more HD channels might be available though. Thanks for the info Alan!

How come this is bad for CableCard or TiVo Series 3 owners? Is the article saying you need to switch to the channel on the Comcast cable guide to get the specified HD channel? How would this work with Comcast's DVR then? Hmmm...I know nothing of this technology. I do like hearing more HD channels might be available though. Thanks for the info Alan!

Switched Broadcasting requires Two-Way communication from your TV to the Cable company... something that the current type of CableCard does not do.

Since TiVo Series 3 uses CableCards to receive encrypted digital channels, it means that the unit cannot receive the Switched Digital channels.

Comcast's own DVR is fine however as it uses two way communications...

~Alan

FSN College Football and Basketball

Verizon FiOS in Tampa Bay region on HD Channel 816-2 in Temple Terrace, FL
Comcast HD (South Florida)Channel 200 - Broward, Dade
Comcast HD Channel 206-Naples
Comcast HD Channel 401-Tallahassee
Comcast HD Channel 199-Vero Beach/Ft. Pierce
Comcast HD Channel 200-Keys
Comcast Jacksonville Channel 181
Advanced Cable HD Channel 656 - Coral Springs & Weston
Also offered by DirecTV to their HD customers in Miami, Tampa & Orlando on Ch. 96 or Ch. 97



2-01 Pac-10: Oregon @ UCLA 10:30pm

http://www.sunsportstv.com/hdtv_programs.jhtml?method=listSeparate&hdtv_programs.team=FSN%20College%20Football%20and%20Basketba ll

Outdoor Life Network. Due to their association with Hockey, they recently changed their name [to Versus].

Aren't they owned/co-owned by Comcast?
Versus (the former OLN) is wholly owned by Comcast, which may explain why I have seen the Philadelphia Flyers (also owned by Comcast!) on that channel quite a few times.

And, for good measure, Comcast also owns the Golf Channel, which is sharing the HD channel with Versus.

http://www.sunsportstv.com/hdtv_programs.jhtml?method=listSeparate&hdtv_programs.team=FSN%20College%20Football%20and%20Basketba ll

401 is a Music Choice channel, no? Is this the proposed channel or something?

Tried to watch "24" and there was no signal. Is 49 off the air? B A D timing!

Tried to watch "24" and there was no signal. Is 49 off the air? B A D timing!

Yeah I'm not getting 49.1 or 49.2 either. 24 in standard def is so lovely.

Yeah I'm not getting 49.1 or 49.2 either. 24 in standard def is so lovely.No wonder my recording of 24 was blank this evening. I was pretty quick to blame the DirecTV HR20, too. Anyone know if Fox replays recent episodes?

At least The Dresden Files recorded well...

The digital exciter has died we are working to restore it.

I have the same question about replaying 24 since my TiVo was supposed to record it. I was watching another show so I didn't know until after it was over that the signal was gone.

How could you blame DirecTV for an OTA channel not recording? You pay too much attention to the Comcast commercials.

How could you blame DirecTV for an OTA channel not recording? You pay too much attention to the Comcast commercials.The HR20 has its foibles, and missed/blank recordings are one of them, regardless of source. I assumed this was a casuality of just such a foible.

The only thing Comcast Im considering is Internet.

No wonder my recording of 24 was blank this evening. I was pretty quick to blame the DirecTV HR20, too. Anyone know if Fox replays recent episodes?

At least The Dresden Files recorded well...

They might but I did not see it in schedule yet.
I play it safe (though have not checked them yet) have both tivo (HR10-250 recording NY Fox) and computer (Media Cender) recording them.

If you are really need to, I could burn the computer one to DVD for you.

engineering@wctv6.com
Be nice. They will help nice people. They will laugh at the rest of you.

was rejected = Delivery failed.

Anyone knows anyone inside. It was so bad on Sunday that I had two recordings (tivo) that were totally unwatchable.

WCTV has said they have no reason to boardcast in DD 5.1 :mad:

Which is a polite way of giving us the finger! :mad: :mad:

The digital exciter has died we are working to restore it.

Maybe it got too excited from alll that adult programming some of you guys are watching! LOL!!! :D :D

49 seems to be back up

NEW HD CHANNELS! Ch. 401 and 405 on Comcast. FSN HD and VSGLF HD (Versus/Golf). Woohoo. FSN HD is "off air" however except for a hockey game tonight...weird. Anyways, I'm very happy (as a sports fan) to have these two new channels.

Golf channel,,,,,,,yea baby :D

If you are really need to, I could burn the computer one to DVD for you.

I guess they started to put DRM on. I am not able to burn 24 to DVD now (only the first 4 hour OK).

WCTV has said they have no reason to boardcast in DD 5.1 :mad:
That's their "official" position? I can't understand that at all. :confused:
As we all know, "HD" is , or at least should be, as much about sound as PQ.
Well, hopefully DirecTV will get some more HD content this year.

Well, hopefully DirecTV will get some more HD content this year.

It won't be for Tallahassee market for a while.

Important message for Mediacom subs in Valdosta and other parts of the Tally DMA:

fredfa has posted a story (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9667474#post9667474) in the Hot Off the Press thread announcing a new retrans deal between Mediacom and Sinclair has been reached, and that the cableco has immediately restored carriage of all Sinclair stations, including WTWC.

Hello. I'm pretty new to D* and I recently installed an OTA antenna (RS U-75R) to pick up local HD broadcasts. Everything I'm looking to receive comes in great except for WTWC, which I understand b/c it's in the VHF range. My question is this; is it possible to add a pair of rabbit ears and somehow splice that signal into my incoming UHF in order to get good HD reception on VHF locals along with UHF? I went through many an antenna to get where I'm at and I'm really pleased w/the U-75R and don't want to change outdoor antennas if I can help it. Thanks.

P.S. I have an HR20 box.

[QUOTE=AVPhan]was rejected = Delivery failed.

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E-mail to
WCTVFeedback@wctv.tv

I get the mail from that box and will forward anything on that's relevant. But as JRC says....be nice.

Also, I'm seeing comments here that say we have no interest in DD5.1. While I don't run engineering and am somewhat light on technical knowledge (but I do read this board to try to pick up on what's going on) I have never heard anyone say that we have no interest in DD5.1.

Also, I'm seeing comments here that say we have no interest in DD5.1. While I don't run engineering and am somewhat light on technical knowledge (but I do read this board to try to pick up on what's going on) I have never heard anyone say that we have no interest in DD5.1.

Well if you have interest in it, you should have it working before the Super Bowl :D

Today's FSU-Duke Men's Basketball game is on FSN Channel 50 on Comcast Tallahassee. It is available in HD via FSN HD on channel 401.

ENJOY!

Anyone using receiving WCTV OTA through a DirecTV HR20? I have a powered Terk antenna hooked up to the HR20 and while the signal strength is consistently in the 90s, I still get audio dropouts every few minutes.

Anyone else have a similar setup and experience this?

Note: This is CBS only, all the other OTA channels Im able to receive are great.

Anyone using receiving WCTV OTA through a DirecTV HR20? I have a powered Terk antenna hooked up to the HR20 and while the signal strength is consistently in the 90s, I still get audio dropouts every few minutes.

Anyone else have a similar setup and experience this?

Note: This is CBS only, all the other OTA channels Im able to receive are great.

Yeah I've been experiencing dropouts with WCTV-DT and WCTV-DT2 today too.

Im glad its not just me, and Ive noticed this for the last several weeks (and several software versions of the HR20) on WCTV.

When faced with watching the DirecTV SD feed with no dropouts or the OTA HD feed with the dropouts, Id rather weather the HD audio woes. The wife approval factor, however, gets lower with each dropout. :)

I am new to HDTV, however I have purchased a phillips indoor antenna and am able to receive WCTV (HDTV) in perfect clarity and WTLH (HDTV) also is very clear. I even receive some other digital channels that are secondary channels (WFSU, DTV, etc). However, I cannot receive any signal from WTWC and was wondering if it is me or them? I read that ABC is still moving so I understand not receiving that channel, but I could not find any information regarding NBC. Any assistance would be helpful as I don't know if I need another/different antenna or whether this is something related to the local channel.

Hello. I'm pretty new to D* and I recently installed an OTA antenna (RS U-75R) to pick up local HD broadcasts. Everything I'm looking to receive comes in great except for WTWC, which I understand b/c it's in the VHF range. My question is this; is it possible to add a pair of rabbit ears and somehow splice that signal into my incoming UHF in order to get good HD reception on VHF locals along with UHF? I went through many an antenna to get where I'm at and I'm really pleased w/the U-75R and don't want to change outdoor antennas if I can help it. Thanks.

P.S. I have an HR20 box.

You could try a signal combiner from Radioshack. If you are lucky, this may work. However, interference can be a problem.

A discussion on Satellite Guys may be helpful - http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/archive/index.php/t-290249.html . This discussion mentions joiners and gives a link to an online merchant with a good selection.

I was in a similar situation with 2 antennas (due to Channel 40). I was going to combine them, but putting the UHF-predominant antenna (RS 15-2187) outside seemed to work well.

Seb

The antenna that I purchased is supposed to pull in both UHF and VHF signal. Do I just need to do more tweeking with the "rabbit ears" that are attached or do I need another antenna and use the joiner to receive both signals?

Email had sent.
I am not sure if they did anything but very few drop out (pixelation) during the game.

I am attempting to try this item (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103094&cp=&sr=1&origkw=15-2507&kw=15-2507&parentPage=search) (just for the FM trap) but none of the Rat-Shack in town has it.

Anyone knows if that would really help ? Just try to be sure before plunging down money for web order.

Signal level drops from 80+ down to zero constantly and only happens to WCTV. I had the antenna for 6 mos and the first four months it was flawless. Just past month + the issue came around.

Might make matters worse. You can have too much signal and that in itself will cause problems.
WCTV may be having problems -- others have mentioned drop outs like you describe. Comcast 233 seems to be stable, but I think they get that via fiber directly from WCTV.

Do wish they had DD5.1 - would have liked to have seen the super bowl with that. It was impressive in HD.

Might make matters worse. You can have too much signal and that in itself will cause problems.

I know. I was suggested to use: a Variable RF atennuator and an FM trap.

Well, those items are nowhere to be found with local stores.

That's the only closest thing that I can find (but they don't have it in stock either).

I know. I was suggested to use: a Variable RF atennuator and an FM trap.

Well, those items are nowhere to be found with local stores.

That's the only closest thing that I can find (but they don't have it in stock either).
Have you tried Fouraker Electronics on Appleyard? If not it might be worth a call to see if they have what you need.

Have you tried Fouraker Electronics on Appleyard? If not it might be worth a call to see if they have what you need.

Will check them out.

I know. I was suggested to use: a Variable RF atennuator and an FM trap.

Well, those items are nowhere to be found with local stores.

That's the only closest thing that I can find (but they don't have it in stock either).

I would try the RF attenuator but would not worry much about the FM trap unless you live close to an FM station as you are not picking up 6 but 46. Also check all of your antenna connections especially the ones out side. Also what type of cable are you using. Some brands don't hold up to weather/water too well.

I would try the RF attenuator but would not worry much about the FM trap unless you live close to an FM station as you are not picking up 6 but 46. Also check all of your antenna connections especially the ones out side. Also what type of cable are you using. Some brands don't hold up to weather/water too well.

I am using RG-6 or something like that. It was a line that DirecTV guy installed for the carppy D* antenna. I went and replaced it with CM 3016. The antenna is in the attic so weather or water should not be a factor. I have checked connections on all and all tighten.

BTW. The Electronic store does not have either item. :-(

Might make matters worse. You can have too much signal and that in itself will cause problems.
WCTV may be having problems -- others have mentioned drop outs like you describe. Comcast 233 seems to be stable, but I think they get that via fiber directly from WCTV.



Comcast pulls in our signals over the air, we do not currently have a direct fiber link to them.

Chris

WTLHFOXHD,

Are you the one who was working on the CW channel? FYI, I recorded Farscape on my Replay DVR last week and PQ was excellent - by far the best I have seen on Comcast Ch. 6 (CW). But I believe Farscape is a syndicated show sourced locally (?). I have reached the conclusion that the problem is not with the CW to Comcast connection - it is with the CW network feeds to the local station. It looks to me that either CW is sending the local station a low quality analog signal (strange if true) or the equipment receiving it is so crappy it is messing things up. CW network shows like Smallville and Veronica Mars do look better than a month or so back, but still not to the quality of that recent Farscape episode. Can you explain why the Farscape program look so much better than the CW network shows? And is there anything you guys can do about it? BTW, even with Farscape, while the picture was very good that low level hum in the audio was still there. THAT may be in the Comcast connection (?).

Any new word on when Comcast will have ABC in HD? Do we really have to wait a few months until the building is done? It sounds like it works OTA, so why can't Comcast run that version? It's gonna get very frustrating with Lost coming back on ABC real soon.

They might but I did not see it in schedule yet.
I play it safe (though have not checked them yet) have both tivo (HR10-250 recording NY Fox) and computer (Media Cender) recording them.

If you are really need to, I could burn the computer one to DVD for you.

Sorry if I saw this too late. You can watch the episodes online at fox.com/24

I am still wondering how to get NBC (40.1) OTA. I have a UHF/VHF antenna that picks up all the channels listed by antennaweb as being available that are both UHF and VHF except 40.1. It was suggested that I use a combiner, but was wondering if this was necessary since this antenna was to pick up both UHF and VHF signals.

Can anyone provide an idea as to what I need to do to pick up NBC in HD? I live on the east side of Tallahassee if that helps in providing some help.

Thanks in advance.

I am still wondering how to get NBC (40.1) OTA. I have a UHF/VHF antenna that picks up all the channels listed by antennaweb as being available that are both UHF and VHF except 40.1. It was suggested that I use a combiner, but was wondering if this was necessary since this antenna was to pick up both UHF and VHF signals.

Can anyone provide an idea as to what I need to do to pick up NBC in HD? I live on the east side of Tallahassee if that helps in providing some help.

Thanks in advance.

I live on the east side of Tallahassee (next to Park Avenue and Capital Circle East) and while I can get WTXL, WCTV, WTLH, and WFSU, I get no signal from WTWC either. Maybe it's something about where we are.

You get WTXL in HD? I only get the non-digital version of that station. I currently can receive the following: WCTV-DT, WTLH-DT, WTLH-CW, ECTV, WFSU - D1, WTXL (non-digital), WTWC (non-digital), WTLH (non-digital), WCTV (non-digital).

However I can not pick up WTXL or WTWC in HD.

I live on the east side of Tallahassee (next to Park Avenue and Capital Circle East) and while I can get WTXL, WCTV, WTLH, and WFSU, I get no signal from WTWC either. Maybe it's something about where we are.


If you are reciving the digital versions of WTXL, would you mind to share your setup?

Hey, I noticed WTXL must have dropped some signal strength because it is much harder to get it. I can still get it but i had to adjust my silver sensor. I use the silver sensor with a small amp and use a signal combiner to hook that and a radio shack rabbit ears totally horizontal for WTWC.

I am still wondering how to get NBC (40.1) OTA. I have a UHF/VHF antenna that picks up all the channels listed by antennaweb as being available that are both UHF and VHF except 40.1. It was suggested that I use a combiner, but was wondering if this was necessary since this antenna was to pick up both UHF and VHF signals.

Can anyone provide an idea as to what I need to do to pick up NBC in HD? I live on the east side of Tallahassee if that helps in providing some help.

Thanks in advance.

I live near Tom Brown Park Just off Apalachee PKWY and I have a WineGard GS2000 amplified antenna. I am able to get WTXL, WTWC, WCTV and WTLH all with a strong signal. WTWC (40.1) always comes in good usually with a 95 + signal.

I am still wondering how to get NBC (40.1) OTA. I have a UHF/VHF antenna that picks up all the channels listed by antennaweb as being available that are both UHF and VHF except 40.1. It was suggested that I use a combiner, but was wondering if this was necessary since this antenna was to pick up both UHF and VHF signals.

Can anyone provide an idea as to what I need to do to pick up NBC in HD? I live on the east side of Tallahassee if that helps in providing some help.

Are you trying to receive the station via your tv tuner or are you using the HR20-700? I live near valdosta and can receive 40-1 via my tv's tuner and via my H10 but have never had any luck getting it through my HR20-700. I have asked the same question on DBS Talk with no definitive answer. Other people are having the same problems with OTA HD channels via the HR20-700. Some get them all, some get none and some get all but one or two. I think it is a software issue with the HR20-700 and multipathing or mpeg conversions.

Any new word on when Comcast will have ABC in HD? Do we really have to wait a few months until the building is done? It sounds like it works OTA, so why can't Comcast run that version? It's gonna get very frustrating with Lost coming back on ABC real soon.

I called Mike Plummer today and he said it will likely be the end of May before master control can be working locally and HD will be back on Comcast. Bummer! :mad:

WTLHFOX, any update on the OTA-622 issues? Thanks.

Last night I was watching HD Hockey on the "VS" channel which appeared on Channel 405.

FSN HD was on 401 but there was no programming on it.....

The Music channels were moved into the 800 range...

(If this has already been posted my apologies)

Are you trying to receive the station via your tv tuner or are you using the HR20-700? I live near valdosta and can receive 40-1 via my tv's tuner and via my H10 but have never had any luck getting it through my HR20-700. I have asked the same question on DBS Talk with no definitive answer. Other people are having the same problems with OTA HD channels via the HR20-700. Some get them all, some get none and some get all but one or two. I think it is a software issue with the HR20-700 and multipathing or mpeg conversions.


Sorry, what is a HR20-700? I am using an OTA uhf/vhf antenna made by phillips.

I live near Tom Brown Park Just off Apalachee PKWY and I have a WineGard GS2000 amplified antenna. I am able to get WTXL, WTWC, WCTV and WTLH all with a strong signal. WTWC (40.1) always comes in good usually with a 95 + signal.


Did you purchase this antenna here in Tallahassee or from an online dealer? I am trying to stay local if at all possible since nothing seems to be working yet.

Also, is this an indoor or outdoor antenna?

Did you purchase this antenna here in Tallahassee or from an online dealer? I am trying to stay local if at all possible since nothing seems to be working yet.

Also, is this an indoor or outdoor antenna?

I got it here from Westview Satellite when they installed my Dish HD. It's outside mounted on the mast of my Dish.

I am still wondering how to get NBC (40.1) OTA. I have a UHF/VHF antenna that picks up all the channels listed by antennaweb as being available that are both UHF and VHF except 40.1. It was suggested that I use a combiner, but was wondering if this was necessary since this antenna was to pick up both UHF and VHF signals.

Can anyone provide an idea as to what I need to do to pick up NBC in HD? I live on the east side of Tallahassee if that helps in providing some help.

Thanks in advance.

I live in the northeast section of Tallahassee (near Bradfordville Road).

First, move the antenna around the house with various placements of the rabbit ears. (I think that I read that this is an indoor antenna). This may make a difference with the weaker signals. Before I moved my antenna (RS 15-2187) outdoors, I moved it to many spots around the room. I finally found a temporary spot that worked fairly well and that was somewhat acceptible to my wife. The weakest channel was channel 40 secondary to the VHF HD signal.

When I moved the antenna outside, it picked up Tallahassee HD signals (Channels 6-1, 6-2, 11-1 to 11-4, 27-1, 27-2, 40,-1, 40-2, 49-1, 49-2) without difficulty. I also got analog channels 14 and 45. The anntenna is very directional. After studying antennaweb.com and other sources (HDTV magazine), I pointed the antenna towards the Metcalf towers near the GA-FL border. This worked as well for WFSU, which is 180-degrees away from most of the other channels. If the antenna is pointed in other directions, many of the channels are not received.

It was also important for us that the antenna was amplified. The prior antenna was a non-amplified Winegard GS-1100. It couldn't pick up the WFSU signals. This amplified antenna (RS 15-2187) was able to pick up WFSU and the other HD channels.

The problem with this setup is that there is only one cable from the satellite antenna to the receiver inside. The prior installation had combined the OTA signal with the satellite signal from a Phase III dish. The outside splitter/combiner did not pass dc signal to the OTA antenna. When I used another combiner that did pass dc signal, I got interference with the local channels on the satellite. It is clear that we will have to have a separate cable run for the OTA (outside or attic). We are going to upgrade to a new dish and HR20 in the near future. Additional satellite (2 needed) and OTA lines will have to be fished through the living room wall from the attic. (I may try to fish these lines myself.)

In my effort to get a system that could pick up HD signals, I attempted to pick up more distant stations. I found out that I really couldn't get any more HD or analog channels. Some of the Dothan, AL and Panama City analog stations were barely received (with snow) when the antenna was pointed in those directions. I sometimes could pick up the Waycross, GA PBS station (analog) and a Columbus, GA channel. Tallahassee is unfortunately not very close to other cities! I would be interested in knowing if anyone is able to pick up other watchable distant signals (including Jacksonville, Gainesville, Albany, or Macon/Perry).

Good luck in your efforts to pick up all of the Tallahassee HD signals.

Sorry, what is a HR20-700? I am using an OTA uhf/vhf antenna made by phillips.The HR20 is the DirecTV HD DVR.

WTLHFOX, any update on the OTA-622 issues? Thanks.

I have found a work around for the problem. I am using three 10dB attenuators stacked between the antenna and receiver. That would make 30dB. I got those from Dish with various recievers over the years, 721, 522, and 622. I usually get WTLH at about 85-90, with the 30dB attenuator it takes the signal down to 58-64. That's enough to fix the problem. If you can get the signal into the mid 70's it might do the trick. It will also reduce all your signals but luckily I didn't lose any with this solution. This is a temporary fix until WFXL in Albany goes online this summer. I can't understand why we are having this problem but it does not look like it will be resolved with WTLH. It will probably depend on how close to the towers you are as regards to how strong your attenuator should be. If you are too close it may not work.

I watched Bones for a few minuets over my Dish 622 I got a couple minor breakups and one short dropout in about 15 minutes. Before I was getting two to three major breakups per minute. Maybe it's not perfect yet but it's a lot better than it was, at least for now.

I periodically check WTLH on my 622. It is rare any more that I can even get a signal for a few seconds. Maybe I'll look into the attenuators though when I do get a signal it is in the mid 70s already. All of the others are rock solid for me.

C'mon WTLHFOXHD, what's up?

Thanks UNC8185 for the great information. I currently have dish network so I might be able to get something connected to my dish when I upgrade to the HD package. Do the satellite installers help out with any of this installation of the outside antennas or is this strictly DIY?

I'll try the attenuator, as well, I guess, for my 622. I currently get Fox in the 90s from Summerbrooke in north Tally with a CM 3016 mounted in my attic (get ABC, NBC and CBS in the 90s, as well).

Thanks UNC8185 for the great information. I currently have dish network so I might be able to get something connected to my dish when I upgrade to the HD package. Do the satellite installers help out with any of this installation of the outside antennas or is this strictly DIY?

When I upgraded to Dish HD I got them to install an antenna at that time.

I have found a work around for the problem. I am using three 10dB attenuators stacked between the antenna and receiver. That would make 30dB. I got those from Dish with various recievers over the years, 721, 522, and 622. I usually get WTLH at about 85-90, with the 30dB attenuator it takes the signal down to 58-64. That's enough to fix the problem. If you can get the signal into the mid 70's it might do the trick. It will also reduce all your signals but luckily I didn't lose any with this solution. This is a temporary fix until WFXL in Albany goes online this summer. I can't understand why we are having this problem but it does not look like it will be resolved with WTLH. It will probably depend on how close to the towers you are as regards to how strong your attenuator should be. If you are too close it may not work.

Did you get attenuator online or local store ?

I don't know if this might have an answer yet, but Lincoln Financial/Raycom Sports is going to offer the ACC Tournament to its stations in HD: http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/sports/colleges/16664153.htm

Is WTLH, the ACC rightsholder here in Tally, equipped (or going to be equipped) to show us these games in HD?