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slim79

02-07-06, 10:40 PM

I have the HDTV Wonder card, it DOES do HD.

It does play back and record over the air 1080I broadcasts.

So what is the differance between OTA HD and Cable HD?

And what is cox cable doing to block my HD Cable ready TV (without a Cable Card) and the ATI Card from viewing the Digital channels on the cable??

Rich

Premium channels are encrypted. In my area the local HD channels available over cable are unencrypted so that an HDTV with tuner can receive those channels and some other unencrypted content if you do a full scan of all digital channels with the tv without a cable card. Cable Card is required to authorize encrypted digital channels. The ATI tuner only scans for over the air HD broadcast channels. It does not have a QAM Digital tuner like the tv capable of scanning all channels on cable.

gsr

02-08-06, 08:58 AM

I have the HDTV Wonder card, it DOES do HD.

It does play back and record over the air 1080I broadcasts.

The ATI HDTV Wonder card does NOT play back or record anything. It receives a signal from your antenna, demultiplexes the transport stream out of the broadcast, and passes it on to software which can then write the raw, unprocessed transport stream to disk, transform it to another format (MPEG-2 program stream, DIVX, etc.) and write it to disk, and/or display it using software decoders and your PC's video card. For playback of previously recorded shows, the HDTV Wonder is not used - that's the distinction from the hardware decoder cards such as accessDTV and MyHD. If you look at my signature, you might be convinced that I actually know what I'm talking about here :). For reference, I own 7 accessDTV cards and 2 ATI HDTV Wonder cards and I volunteer software development time to enhance the accessDTV software and have been for the last several years.

So what is the differance between OTA HD and Cable HD?

Different broadcast formats - 8-VSB for OTA and QAM for cable.

And what is cox cable doing to block my HD Cable ready TV (without a Cable Card) and the ATI Card from viewing the Digital channels on the cable??

Well, there are 2 key things here. First off, even if the ATI HDTV Wonder hardware supports QAM reception (this is up for debate), the current drivers don't make this functionality available, AFAIK. Next, even if you don't have a cable card box, the signal can still be encrypted such that you need the cable box to decrypt it.

racprops

02-08-06, 11:10 PM

OK I when to a TV friendly Firewire DVR, the Toshiba 160HD4.

Two questions:

Any one know what to format a drive with so it will run in this box, and if so will it run a second drive for more space.

And two can I capture and record the output durning playback on the second firewire port on a PC?

My hope is either I can add and remove and thus store probrams and movies on a hard drive for the time being.

And that I might be able to copy onto my computer for frame capture and play back on my front projector and it seems this will only happen from the computer.

Other wise I am forced to watch these recordings only the Mitsubishi.

Rich

billym99

02-09-06, 09:10 AM

Ok... I'm having a slight problem. I'm using a DCT6412 III and it connects fine to my computer. I use capdvhs to capture video. It seems to work fine on channels that are below 100. Above 100 and nothing is populated under the "DATA" tab. The file that capdvhs builds grows in size the longer I record, but is unplayable on VLC and Media Player Classic. I've checked some of the channels above 100 for 5c and all return a value of "0" according to my cable box. Anyone have any ideas here? Oh yes, I'm on Comcast Cable in Montgomery County, Maryland.

THANKS!

HJSimpson

02-09-06, 05:15 PM

Just wanted to post this in case it may help someone with the: "Cannot find SampleGrabber" error

I just started getting it after a system crash and windows Chkdsk.

This may or may not be your problem but mine was related to a directX problem,
So if you get this problem just go to start run and type dxdiag and then look under directx files to see if there are any problems.

most significantly look for qedit.dll but there may be others marked as a problem as well.

I just replaced that one file in my windows system32 folder and no more SampleGrabber problem! Somehow it got corrupted during a crash and windows Chkdsk and I needed a replacement.

So always check your directx to see if you have a dll problem.

slim79

02-09-06, 07:29 PM

communik8r

02-10-06, 09:49 AM

I'm switching from Comcast to Fios and want do do the firewire connection to my HTPC. The Comcast STBis a Motorola 6412 and the Verizon STB is the 6416. I hooked up the 6412 and by following the instructions in this thread, have been able to capture both SD and HD programming so I know the firewire and CapDVHS work just fine. When connecting to the 6416, I get the "no capture device found" when I start CapDVHS. I don't have the yellow exclaimation point on the driver (I'm using the Morotola AV/C device (DCT-6412) driver) when connected to the 6416, but still get the error on CapDVHS. Any ideas?

I haven't disconnected the Comcast yet, I want to make sure the FIOS is working before disconnecting, so I have both and can do a stare and compare.

Problem solved. My 6416 developed the "automatic system saver" mode. you know the one where it turns itself off several times a day. Verizon came out in record time, scheduled on Monday, showed up on Sunday about noon, and replaced the STB. Went through setup again and this time it works perfectly. Samsung 61" DLP looks great with captured HiDef through firewire. Now if we can only figure out a way to capture 5c=1 programming, I'll be all set!

My thanks to the people who have documented so much on this forum.

Lee11

02-10-06, 10:32 AM

Anyone else have a problem when upgrading from a 6412 to 6412 III box that you get "no capture device found" in CapDVHS? It work fine with the original 6412, but went I plugged in my new 6412 III, I get that error?

I haven't tried reinstalling the drivers yet, just wondering if there was a simple fix.

hatoncat

02-11-06, 01:42 PM

Hi all, my Comcast 6200 has simply refused to pass video over 1394 to either my PowerBook or XP systems. I am running firmware 8.14. I've actually started a new thread about this specific issue here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=639349

I'd appreciate feedback from anyone who has a 6200 and 1394 recording (that either works or does not work) in that thread. Thanks!

bsharin

02-12-06, 06:23 PM

Im having trouble getting my DCT-6412 working in MCE. I have installed the drivers and they seem to function correctly. I can change channels through the cmd prompt and CapDVHS is working fine. I made sure that the checkbox was enabled in the mytray.exe for enabling firewire/usb recording. When I open up Media Center and try to use the TV function it says that there is no tuner found. Any help would be appreciated...

Blake

slim79

02-12-06, 07:11 PM

bsharin

02-12-06, 11:14 PM

I guess i didnt do as much research as i needed but hopefully you can clarify it for me. In addition to the firewire cable coming out of my comcast box into my computer, you need a tuner card? Thanks in advance...

Blake

P.S. No, there is no STB app in more programs.

slim79

02-12-06, 11:29 PM

In addition to the firewire cable coming out of my comcast box into my computer, you need a tuner card?

Yes.

The following is from the creators thread at:

http://www.thegreenbutton.com/community/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=26&MessageID=104152

This package (firewire.zip) supports channel change and recording (SD/HD) via firewire, integrated into MCE. Channel change only works with the Motorola 6200/6208/6412 STBs and the SA3250HD/SA8000/SA8300HD STBs, recording works with other STBs.

It supports 1 or 2 STBs/tuners.

It supports extenders, though HD records will not play back on extenders

It doesn't remove the MCE requirement for the IR blaster and analogue tuners.

The readme.htm attached goes into more details of what is required to set it up and includes a FAQ

Lee11

02-13-06, 10:34 AM

slim79

02-13-06, 03:25 PM

A reinstall of the drivers using the instructions provided here: http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/

resolved my "no capture device problem. These seem to have updated drivers than the drivers I had installed originally.

I'm also having fast forward problems after captureing via firewire. FF acts a slow motion vs FF. Only solutions is to unplog box and wait, and wait, and wait for guide and even menu options to come back such "DVR" Any one else seen this before? This is on a new phase III, Firmware 12.20

This page refers to similar issues with 6412 III

http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/...2_Passport.html

There is a section towards the end of the document "Phase III box firewire issues"

Lee11

02-13-06, 04:20 PM

This page refers to similar issues with 6412 III

http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/...2_Passport.html

There is a section towards the end of the document "Phase III box firewire issues"

I had trouble with your link, it seems to be truncated in the middle:

I was able to find the full link http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/DCT6412_Passport.html

slim79

02-13-06, 06:56 PM

I had trouble with your link, it seems to be truncated in the middle:

I was able to find the full link http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/DCT6412_Passport.html

hmm...not sure why that happened. try the link in post #2256 further up the page

...now the link in the quote of this message and the way you posted it is working...odd

indirect

02-13-06, 07:43 PM

indirect

02-13-06, 07:45 PM

A reinstall of the drivers using the instructions provided here: http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/

resolved my "no capture device problem. These seem to have updated drivers than the drivers I had installed originally.

I'm also having fast forward problems after captureing via firewire. FF acts a slow motion vs FF. Only solutions is to unplog box and wait, and wait, and wait for guide and even menu options to come back such "DVR" Any one else seen this before? This is on a new phase III, Firmware 12.20

This is an ongoing issue that I had first brought up, as far as I know nobody has found a solution. Well somebody posted that they could resolve the issue by switching tuners. It doesn't work for me but you can give it a try.

slim79

02-13-06, 08:01 PM

You do not need a tuner card, just a firewire port on your computer.

For Tim's app to work within MCE you do...to record with CapDVHS or use channel.exe you don't

LiveSquid

02-14-06, 12:12 AM

Hi guys. I have a Moto 6412. I have the hardware installed, but when I try to record I get an error about not being able to start samplegrabber (or something similar) and my other program of choice tells me that the video device is already in use, or that there is no tape in my DV device; please put a tape in the camera...

Any help on resolving this would be appreciated.

Ken A

02-14-06, 07:36 AM

Do you have any help for those of use running Win XP x64? The drivers appear to have been written for the 32bit XP OS.

mdcomdial

02-14-06, 09:39 AM

I have a Mac and an SA HD DVR from Cablebvision. Is there a way to save a recorded program via firewire onto my Mac?

zippy710199

02-14-06, 11:59 AM

Hi
I have a 6412 and have hooked it up via firewire to my laptop and it wont detect in capdhvs.
I show the items being installed in the bottom right like tuner and the 6412 but when i go to the drop down part of cap it doesnt show the 6412 or anthing else.
However when i hook my DVHS machine up then no problem at all it works great.
I should also add that im able to firewire record from my 6412 using my dhvs machine but the problem starts when i hook my 6412 direct to my pc.
Anyone any idea what could be wrong ?

blzinrasin

02-14-06, 04:58 PM

Could I record a copy once program to a sata hdd and then play it back on and HD dvd player with usb

bdraw

02-14-06, 10:38 PM

I have a Mac and an SA HD DVR from Cablebvision. Is there a way to save a recorded program via firewire onto my Mac?

Yeah there is a Mac howto in the Mac HTPC forum.

slim79

02-14-06, 11:43 PM

many people appear to be having problems with 6412 phase III...try the links posted from sourceforge.net further up the page...

DigitalfreakNYC

02-15-06, 11:28 PM

slim79

02-16-06, 12:54 AM

OK guys...major problems here.

I have a SA HD 8300 with PVR.

I hooked it up via firewire. clicked cancel for the unknown and installed the drivers for the other two. then disabled the unknown.

Here's where the problems come in.

If I click "mytray," absolutely nothing happens.

If I click the command prompts and whatknot, I get something similar to what is outlined in the "read" file but it says "no device selected" when i do the channel -v command.

If i try and record in HD through the program, it crashes.

The box also freezes every time I try and record or even have it plugged into my pc.

HELP!

I would try uninstalling the app and then the drivers for the STB from device manager and reinstalling just the drivers and not the app and see if CapDVHS works for recording. If CapDVHS is working a better place to seach threads or post might be:

http://www.thegreenbutton.com/community/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=26&MessageID=104152 if the link works....their forum always seems sluggish and after posting this I was receiving an error from their server. I am also having problems with posting here lately...according to the message they are aware of this problem

I think avs also has a topic on recording with MCE and MyTray but I am not sure the link.

DigitalfreakNYC

02-16-06, 11:13 AM

Is there literally a step-by-step guide to doing this (with pictures possibly)? The guide that's on thegreenbutton.com differs even from the guide in this thread. It sucks that this has worked for most people but...not me. :(

DigitalfreakNYC

02-16-06, 11:23 AM

Ugh. Looks like I'm screwed.

warning!

in NYC, it seems time warner has placed 5c restrictions on ALL channels via firewire using teh SA 3250HD box.

they responded:
-------
In reference to your inquiry, your receiving device must be DTCP compliant.

If your device is DTCP compliant please contact our technical support department for further troubleshooting.

DigitalfreakNYC

02-16-06, 07:03 PM

I would try uninstalling the app and then the drivers for the STB from device manager and reinstalling just the drivers and not the app and see if CapDVHS works for recording. If CapDVHS is working a better place to seach threads or post might be:

http://www.thegreenbutton.com/community/shwmessage.aspx?ForumID=26&MessageID=104152 if the link works....their forum always seems sluggish and after posting this I was receiving an error from their server. I am also having problems with posting here lately...according to the message they are aware of this problem

I think avs also has a topic on recording with MCE and MyTray but I am not sure the link.

Well...i started from scratch and only installed the drivers. No luck. :(

slim79

02-16-06, 10:56 PM

Well...i started from scratch and only installed the drivers. No luck. :(

were you using firewire.zip or firewirebeta.zip?
what firmware are you on? are you getting any particular errors with CapDVHS?
Do you know the value of 5c on channels?

can you post the output from

channel -v

as time goes by it is becoming less and less likely that this will work do to new methods of protecting the content until windows DRM recognizes 5c and dtcp and such.

quadrunner

02-17-06, 01:04 PM

I have a Motorola DCT-6208, and I'm wondering if I can record to my XP box. My cable provider is Brighthouse Network (TimeWarner). I've downloaded what I thought are the proper drivers and when I install the firewire cable the box is reconized, but when I launch capdvhs it doesn't see the device. My firmware is @ 8.10 , not sure where or how to proceed from here.

Thanks,

quadrunner

jbj4

02-18-06, 11:46 AM

I have a firewire to my Motorola 620X and can use the CapDVHS to capture video from the DVR. for example, when i saved a two minute video captured, the file is over 100 mb. When i try to play the mpg file, it will show the first frame of the capture and that is it. i can move the slide to different areas to see different sections that were captured, but again, no sound and no video. Can anyone help?

castellana

02-18-06, 01:17 PM

I have a SA4200HD(Cablevision Newark) connected via firewire.I can recored sd channels just fine.However when I
try and record HD channels capdvhs craps out after anywhere from 30 sec to 2 min and says it has encountered an error.When I play bach the hd stream it looks great.I am running windows xp sp1(yes I know about the firewire issues in xp sp2).I was connected via sb audigy firewire however I bought a separate firewire card and I am still getting the same error-it's driving me crazy.I have tried diabling hyperthreading and still it's a no-go.Can anyone figure out what the problem is-Thanks

DigitalfreakNYC

02-19-06, 01:08 AM

were you using firewire.zip or firewirebeta.zip?
what firmware are you on? are you getting any particular errors with CapDVHS?
Do you know the value of 5c on channels?

can you post the output from

channel -v

as time goes by it is becoming less and less likely that this will work do to new methods of protecting the content until windows DRM recognizes 5c and dtcp and such.

regular firewire.zip.

what do you mean...which firmware?

I already listed the errors I've gotten from CAPDVHS.

CouchPotato69

02-19-06, 06:14 AM

After you install the msi, all you should have to do is go into device manager and "update" the driver. Windows should find the new driver automatically.

Hello bdraw and everyone,

I'm tearing my hair out (figuratively, since my head is bald already).

I just got a brand new DCT 3412 from Comcast (it took 3 of them before finding a good one).
Anyway, I can't get XP to see it as anything beyond a 61883 Class Bus Device (that won't start).

I've tried everything I've read on this entire forum regarding FireWire, XP, and STB DVR's. I've done everything right,
but the box isn't showing XP anything A/V related for devices.

Can someone verify that Comcast has not shut off the functionality of the 1394 ports?
Or tell me what I can try to get the box to show XP the A/V devices so that I can
load the Panasonic drivers and get a move on over here?

I'm in meteo-west Massachusetts and have one of the first batch of 3412's to hit the area.

Thanks,

CouchPotato

bdraw

02-19-06, 03:56 PM

CouchPotato69

02-19-06, 04:47 PM

Couthpotato,
Your yellow text is horific on when using the non black background.

Sounds to me like the ports are not active. For whatever reason some cable companies don't enable the ports on most of thire boxes. Here in Tampa BHN only enables the 1394 port on one box even though most of their HD boxes they give out now have the ports.

Sorry about the yellow... I just made it look like everone elses' does to me.

I think what you mean to say is that the devices on the port are disabled, not the port itself, because I can see the unit, just not as any A/V device. simply a 61883 Class Bus Device.

If that's what you mean, I'd tend to agree.

Also, I want to end the rumour that the 3412 doesn't support analog broadcast.

It sure the hell does! And displaying those channels on a Toshiba 56MX195 really shows their flaws.

jdieken

02-19-06, 06:15 PM

I have a Motorola 6412 provided by my local cable company. Looking at the 77 pages in this thread that started a year and a half ago...how much of the info has changed over the months from when this thread started. I have started going through the replies, but it is a very slow process. Any help with getting my recorded programs off the DVR and onto my PC would be appreciated. If it is more or less the same as it was in July of 2003 I will try that process first.

Thanks for your time.

epsilon

02-19-06, 10:48 PM

This guide (http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/index.html) is I think the most comprehensive. I'm surprised it's not linked to on the first page.

02-19-06, 11:12 PM

I have a Comcast/Motorola 3412 in Atlanta. I can record all the HD over the air channels over firewire to windows XP, except the NBC affiliate (806 WXIA). Looking through the 3412's diagnostic screen (d6) I see that this channel has CCI=2, while all the others have CCI=0.

Reading through the DTCP spec, CCI=2 seems to mean copy once, while CCI=0 is copy freely.

Further reading of the spec shows that for "copy once" the destination device must do a restricted authentication key exchange with the sender . This is not necessary for copy freely.

My guess is that the XP driver is not capable of authenticating itself to the DVR and thus no transfer on this channel. I also presume that a real CE device like a TV monitor with a firewire input, or a real DVHS deck could authenticate itself and would be able to do the transfer.

Do I have this right?

One mystery is that until recently I had a Motorola 6412 (phase 2) that had no trouble with this channel. If failed and got swapped out for the 3412. It's not clear to me which box is getting it wrong, and if Comcast is purposely sending CCI=2.

yekat

02-20-06, 08:37 AM

This guide (http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/index.html) is I think the most comprehensive. I'm surprised it's not linked to on the first page.

I agree. I couldn't get it to work from the instructions on the first page. The guide you linked to was what I used to get it to work.

However, I can only record in CAPDVHS off of firewire live for the OTA channels. It doesn't record anything from the DVR (OTA channels). I have the Verizon Motorola 6416. Anyone know what is happening here?

pipdipchip

02-20-06, 12:06 PM

Just as a hint, put whatever you're using for viewing or recording (VideoLAN, CAPDVHS, etc.) into real-time mode. I do this and it greatly improves the frame rate. I have a bad graphics card and have to do this. Others may not but it won't hurt. Just so you know, real-time mode will basically freeze your computer in many cases. If you don't want that, I'd suggest putting it High mode.

How-To Change Processor Priority:
1. Ctrl-Alt-Delete
2. Go to "Applications" and right click on the program.
3. Select "Go to Process"
4. Right click the Application's Process and highlight "Set Priority"
5. Select "AboveNormal", "High", or "Real-time" depending on how much of a boost you want

blzinrasin

02-20-06, 01:50 PM

Could I record HD with a firewire to usb 2.0 cable becuase I don't have a firewire port in my computer

DigitalfreakNYC

02-20-06, 03:05 PM

This guide (http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/index.html) is I think the most comprehensive. I'm surprised it's not linked to on the first page.

That only works with that one specific receiver, no? It wouldn't work with a SA.

nathan_h

02-20-06, 03:27 PM

Could I record HD with a firewire to usb 2.0 cable becuase I don't have a firewire port in my computer

No, but a Firewire card can be found for perhaps $15 online.

bdraw

02-20-06, 07:43 PM

This guide (http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/index.html) is I think the most comprehensive. I'm surprised it's not linked to on the first page.

Nice guide, the guide I wrote on the first page has nothing to do with DVDs. It is only for capturing. That guide is also focused on the DCT6412, this guide is supposed to work with all 1394 enabled STB's.

If there is something about it that is wrong let me know and I will fix it.

timecop

02-20-06, 10:16 PM

hey bdraw.
I see USA is still not copy-protected for the most part.
Do these recent STB's with firewire come up with AV/C Tuner subunit? What about other subunits?

epsilon

02-21-06, 12:01 PM

Nice guide, the guide I wrote on the first page has nothing to do with DVDs. It is only for capturing. That guide is also focused on the DCT6412, this guide is supposed to work with all 1394 enabled STB's.

If there is something about it that is wrong let me know and I will fix it.
Sorry Ben, I didn't mean to knock your thorough guide, I just wanted to help out the 6412 owner. I also thought that including the link in your guide may be of some help to the many 6412 users on this thread, I just didn't phrase it right.

bdraw

02-21-06, 10:04 PM

Wow timecop, I always wondered what happend to you, good to have you back.

Here in Tampa they encrypt everything except the OTA channels. The tuner subunit is definitly there and can be used to change the channels. If you haven't see it already check out the link to the new drivers on the main page. They work great no more need to force XP to use the drivers. The packages even includes the program to change the channels and integrate with MCE.

I tried it out but wasn't much use since I could already record all the channels OTA.

bdraw

02-21-06, 10:10 PM

Sorry Ben, I didn't mean to knock your thorough guide, I just wanted to help out the 6412 owner. I also thought that including the link in your guide may be of some help to the many 6412 users on this thread, I just didn't phrase it right.

No problem, anthing that will help keep this extremly long thread on topic is a good thing. I added the link.

Alaska Wolf

02-22-06, 12:08 AM

No problem, anthing that will help keep this extremly long thread on topic is a good thing. I added the link.

After experimenting with a number of variations and applications, I've found using HDTV2MPEG to do basic editing and converting to .mpg and then using Nero Vision to author my DVDs works very well in most instances and is simpler than the DGInex.exe, QuEnc.exe or CCE routine.

I end up with a DVD that has nice menus, and looks nice as well as having 5.1 surround.

HDTV2DVD is a very nice, if very stripped down, app for this as well. I've thought of getting a copy of his SVCD2DVD to compare it with Nero but haven't gotten around to it yet.

I had to spend a month or so working with my cable provider but I can access most programming they provide for this process.

For now anyway...

Wolf

timecop

02-22-06, 12:34 AM

The tuner subunit is definitly there and can be used to change the channels. If you haven't see it already check out the link to the new drivers on the main page. They work great no more need to force XP to use the drivers. The packages even includes the program to change the channels and integrate with MCE.

I tried it out but wasn't much use since I could already record all the channels OTA.

Huhu, yeah. I've looked at that package. Looks like the "original" drivers with a better catch-all inf for all the u.s. based fw devices and some new stuff.

Interesting how all the "channel changing" stuff is based on AV/C Panel, there aren't any devices with Panel here that I can play with :(

And too bad about encryption but I think thats where things are headed in general.

castellana

02-23-06, 10:02 PM

Capdvhs just didn't work for me however I discovered an alternative method using
Microsoft's GraphEdit. I am able to record the stream using the nvidia purevideo package.I find that I get artifacting on some of the ota local HD streams.I have an
ATI x300(bottom of the line)-Is it possible that this graphics card has a hard time processing the transport streams.If so which card should I get that will do an excellent job without breaking the bank.It sucks when you're watching a very sharp approx. 17.5 Mbps stream and all of a sudden you get some noisy artifacting-just destroys the whole experience.

jsweatt

02-24-06, 09:59 AM

timecop

02-24-06, 09:39 PM

I have a VIA® 6307 IEEE 1394 controller.

I have a dead 1394 card with VIA 6306 controller on it which just decided to stop working for no reason. Maybe thats a hint.

blzinrasin

02-25-06, 06:13 PM

Can my cable provider, Comcast turn 5c off locally?

HDTVFanAtic

02-26-06, 02:00 AM

Yes, the 5c is controlled 100% at their head end locally.

blzinrasin

02-26-06, 01:16 PM

rfritz

02-26-06, 05:53 PM

We must working on this at the same time. I am having the exact same experience. I just called TWC here in Houston and the rep assured me that these ports should be active after consulting with others. The only advice he had was to return and swap the box but I am not convinced that is the real issue.

The only difference I see between your setup and mine is my SARA is 1.87.16.a104. That even seems we are very close.
Refer back to 1/14/06. My SARA firmware was 1.87.16.1. Now it's 1.87.27.1 and I've noticed that my PC recognizes the SA8300HD and installs the Tuner and Panel drivers. Still working to get everything working, but this is a step in the right direction. Has your situation improved? - Rod

timecop

02-26-06, 07:12 PM

If the local provider can control the 5C flags:
!) What policy determines which HD services are flagged 0, 1 or 2?
2) Is there an agreement between the local provider (eg. Comcast) and the source provide (eg. TNT programming services)?
3) Can subscribers request changes in the 5C flags from their local providers?
4) What is the probability of granting the request?

OTA/Broadcast = copy free
PPV/VOD/etc = copy never
everything else = copy once

says FCC

You will NOT get it changed "just for you" no matter what.
get a dvhs deck

HJSimpson

02-26-06, 11:41 PM

I have a problem now recording from my 6412 with CAPDVHS, computer reboots after recording for a few seconds and the error says something like driver IRQ conflict when I checked it out.

I tried uninstalling the drivers and used the newest drivers for the 6412 (not the old Panasonic one) and it will now record but the picture stutters and pixelates every few seconds. All this started happening after the power went out and the 6412 rebooted.

I can record from my 6200 just fine with the old drivers or the new ones. I also tried on my laptop and it does the same thing stutters and pixelates recording form the 6412 with the new drivers and dumps with Panasonic ones, but the laptop also works with my 6200 with either drivers.

This is strange since I have been recording from the 6412 for almost a year, and just recorded a few weeks ago.

If anyone has had the stuttering and pixelation problem and solved it let me know, I thought it might be a driver or direct x problem since I just did a system restore, but the laptop does the same thing with the 6412.

man this is one strange problem.

timecop

02-27-06, 01:22 AM

I tried uninstalling the drivers and used the newest drivers for the 6412 (not the old Panasonic one) and it will now record but the picture stutters and pixelates every few seconds. All this started happening after the power went out and the 6412 rebooted.

The "newest" drivers are the same old panasonic drivers with new infs adjusted to directly install with DCT + etc STBs. So they are in fact the same drivers. The reboot/bluescreen is caused by ****** coding in the streaming portion of the driver, and *only* happens under certain bad circumstances (such as using the driver directly from graphedit in certain order of things).

The pixelation should have nothing to do with the driver or pc, if you "didn't change anything" then your 6412 downloaded some new firmware that screwed up the output.

HDTVFanAtic

02-27-06, 02:45 AM

If the local provider can control the 5C flags:
!) What policy determines which HD services are flagged 0, 1 or 2?
2) Is there an agreement between the local provider (eg. Comcast) and the source provide (eg. TNT programming services)?
3) Can subscribers request changes in the 5C flags from their local providers?
4) What is the probability of granting the request?

1) Corporate Policy or their contract with the supplier

2) read above

3) Yes

4) When Hell freezes over

BEK

02-27-06, 12:49 PM

I've had a Mot 6412 for over a year now but when I finally got around to trying to archive a show I failed to get past what would seem to be the first step.

The main symptom: When I connect my 6412 to my PC using a firewire cable I do NOT get any "Found new hardware wizard." It's almost as if the 6412 is not sending out any signal over Firewire. I tried this both before and after downloading and installing the various software and drivers listed in the guide. I've not yet seen the "Found new hardware wizard" show up when I connect to the 6412.

Has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks in advance for any help.

DisabledTrucker

02-27-06, 01:23 PM

Comcast has been forcably updating their boxes lately and have caused my computer to hard crash when they did them, and in the process screwed up the use of my firewire ports, the only way I've been able to get them to work again was to hard reset the stupid box, but I ended up losing all the PVR's I had recorded in the process. You'll have to also remove the firewire connection first from the computer and STB. If you haven't already backed up all your PVR's and can't access the box to save them prior to a hard reset, then plan on losing them, to get your firewire working again. Otherwise, if your not worried about the PVR's then just call them up and request a "hard complete reset" of your box and they will walk you through it. It requires unplugging the box and the cable connection to do it, but I can't remember all the steps, maybe someone else can inform of them.

BEK

02-27-06, 02:19 PM

Thanks Trucker! While I'd like to try to archive the shows I currently have recorded, it won't be the end of the world to lose them. I'll try calling up and getting a "hard complete reset". I'll report back on my success or failure in the next few days.

Edit: So far no luck performing reset. Comcast tech seemed oblivious to what a reset was. He did an "init" which didn't delete my saved programs. I tried a reset manually which I read about online, the so-called HDD reset. Still no luck so far. I'll update if/when my luck changes.

blzinrasin

02-27-06, 03:16 PM

Does comcast forget to set the 5c flags when the premium channels have free viewing periods because they didn't set them when showtime had a free trial in December.

RScottyL

02-27-06, 04:28 PM

I agree. I couldn't get it to work from the instructions on the first page. The guide you linked to was what I used to get it to work.

However, I can only record in CAPDVHS off of firewire live for the OTA channels. It doesn't record anything from the DVR (OTA channels). I have the Verizon Motorola 6416. Anyone know what is happening here?

Unfortunately, everything on Verizon FIOS is 5C except locals! :(

ebo

02-27-06, 07:40 PM

Unfortunately, everything on Verizon FIOS is 5C except locals! :(Your sig listed a TV that has a QAM tuner. Have you tried hooking it directly to the FIOS cable, bypassing the Motorola STB? On traditional cable you can usually get the digital locals and sometimes other things, depending on what the cable company scrambles. I'd be interested to know what you get on FIOS.

HJSimpson

02-27-06, 08:00 PM

The "newest" drivers are the same old panasonic drivers with new infs adjusted to directly install with DCT + etc STBs. So they are in fact the same drivers. The reboot/bluescreen is caused by ****** coding in the streaming portion of the driver, and *only* happens under certain bad circumstances (such as using the driver directly from graphedit in certain order of things).

The pixelation should have nothing to do with the driver or pc, if you "didn't change anything" then your 6412 downloaded some new firmware that screwed up the output.

Hmmm so they are exactly the same? just cosmetic changes on how they are installed. That makes it even more strange that new drivers work but the picture stutters, and the old drivers just flat out reboot any computer I use, so I'm getting different results with both drivers, thats odd.

I agree it's most likely my 6412 :( especially since it happened right after the power outages during that snow storm, either the ports got messed up when the power went out, or maybe the software got messed up when the power kept going off and on, especially since my 6200 still works just fine.

Sadly I have a boatload of old stuff I never got around to saving, The saving grace is most of it is SD so I can save it trhough S-Video and then do the hard reboot to see if that makes a difference.

Just really strange that the drivers have different behavior.

timecop

02-27-06, 10:35 PM

went out, or maybe the software got messed up when the power kept going off and on, especially since my 6200 still works just fine.

Just really strange that the drivers have different behavior.

So your 6200 works fine using either set of drivers?
I briefly looked at the "new" package, the only thing changed vs the original setup was the inf file which included hardware IDs for all the common STBs to avoid "forcing" teh driver install.

You can try to manually add the MPEG2TS source filter in graphedit, right click on output pin, and "render", that MIGHT work, also dont try to show proppage for the filter, that will cause reboot/bluescreen. Anyway, If it works with another box I'd say whatever changed in 6412 is to blame.

Alc21

02-28-06, 10:19 AM

This is a great thread. Used this and replayguide sourceforge net /dct6412/
I got my mot dtc6412 recording last night but the file plays back without sound. :mad: I have checked things a few times but still no luck.

I believed that the stream should include the audio, no?

I don't know what tools to use to diagnose this problem.

Current setup:
Vision Dual Xeon 2.4GHz
Windows XP Pro
1.5 GB Ram
Motorola 6412_Firewire Driver
DVHS Capture
SVCD2DVD
Nero 7

epsilon

02-28-06, 10:45 AM

I don't know what tools to use to diagnose this problem.

MPEG2Repair (http://users.adelphia.net/~mwilczyn/mpeg2repair/), for one, will show what audio streams there are.

Alc21

02-28-06, 10:56 AM

Using VLC I get audio, just got that running.
Will try the repair tool now.
thanks

Alc21

02-28-06, 11:14 AM

I am such an AS*!
I was using MS media player!
God only knows why... what's the deal?
Works great from anything else!
Droppped the mpg into VLC and viola SOUND!!!

Thanks,
BTW, the repair told me their were 2 audio track etcetera, which gave me hope. Do any of these video toold give you a track "scope view" so you could tell if there are video/audio levels that just aren't playing right.

Now my DVR won't respond... the channel changer works but the DVR functions show playing but the live channel just keeps showing.

Also, after a while the sound sometimes goes out on the DVR, I thought this was part of the recording problems, but maybe its just some funky ieee stuff. HELP.

PS: As you guys have mentioned, my box did not show up with the "Motorola" devices until I actually cancelled through the unknown device completely.

Comcast here in Miami seems nicer about the stream flags than others.

Alc21

02-28-06, 11:16 AM

How could I get the PAnel device to work on XP Pro?
It seems like alot of forums are talking about the MCE of windows.

epsilon

02-28-06, 11:36 AM

I am such an AS*!
I was using MS media player!
God only knows why... what's the deal?
Works great from anything else!
Droppped the mpg into VLC and viola SOUND!!!
Media Player Classic works well for me, as well as my standalone IOData AVLP2.
Now my DVR won't respond... the channel changer works but the DVR functions show playing but the live channel just keeps showing.

Also, after a while the sound sometimes goes out on the DVR, I thought this was part of the recording problems, but maybe its just some funky ieee stuff. HELP.
I haven't had such problems but I don't use the channel changer. You may want to powercycle and, if that doesn't work, have your cable company do a hard reset.

Foojay

02-28-06, 11:46 AM

I have yet to see a guide for the DCT3412, is it possible to record to my computer with this box?

epsilon

02-28-06, 11:55 AM

The 3412 has digital-only tuners and, IIRC, has no firewire.

Edit: I may have to take that back. Google returned a hit that said recording is possible but the link is dead:
My Living End - Recording TV from your Comcast STB to your Mac
I am recording from a new Motorola DCT3412 I from Comcast. ... I\'m using a comcast box dct3412 (motorola) to capture m2t files using the above methods. ...
www.uncompiled.com/?id=49

epsilon

02-28-06, 12:04 PM

Not to mention this post in this very thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7164764&&#post7164764)...

Foojay

02-28-06, 12:18 PM

Not to mention this post in this very thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7164764&&#post7164764)...

He said he could record with the 3412 but not how he is doing it. I followed the instructions from the very first post and it won't work.

Alc21

02-28-06, 12:30 PM

Power reboot fixed the DVR problem (for now).

It seems that VLC will handle the DVHS files correctly but the audio tacks and other info are not correct in other programs (SVCD2DVD).
The length of a 30min mpg is -12xxx and shows no audio. After repair it has the correct length and audio info.

Whats up with dvhs. Am I supposed to changed something if this is happening?
thnx

blzinrasin

02-28-06, 05:57 PM

can you record 5c encrypted movies on windows vista?

timecop

02-28-06, 06:26 PM

can you record 5c encrypted movies on windows vista?

of course not.

nathan_h

02-28-06, 08:27 PM

of course not.

I thought Vista was supposed to support new hardware that is 5C compliant, including cable cards, etc. The recordings would be DRM-ed, but possible.

slim79

02-28-06, 08:57 PM

How could I get the PAnel device to work on XP Pro?
It seems like alot of forums are talking about the MCE of windows.

channel.exe is a command for controlling the panel. this can be used without mce. instructions are in the readme of the firewire.zip or firewirebeta.zip

you can create windows shortcuts to channel.exe with the parameters for a particular channel and put them in a toolbar or folder. I have also used windows task scheduler to run channel changes between scheduled recordings in CapDVHS to automate the process.

seldenpat

03-01-06, 10:55 AM

Zyzzyvas

03-02-06, 03:21 PM

Ok I am having problems getting the recording in MCE to work. I have a Motorola DCT 6200, connected to my Media Center PC via firewire as well as into my Hauppauge PC150 Tuner card. Recording via CapDVHS works perfectly fine for all channels. I have set the "Firewire/USB Tray" program that sits in the system tray to "Enable Firewire/USB Recording" and it detected my STB fine. I also have the program appear in "More Programs" in Media Center and everything appears to be setup fine. I have it set to "Do nothing with MCE" so there should be the 2 files recorded (one through the tuner card and one through firewire), but still whenever I go to record something it only records the much lower quality signal through the tuner card.

On a side note, I also have the Live TV option checked in the More Programs settings, is there any way to get this to work either?

Thanks for any help!

rkellogg556

03-06-06, 04:32 AM

blzinrasin

03-06-06, 06:14 PM

Grstriano

03-06-06, 08:45 PM

Ok so I just got one of HD boxes from comcast installed the drivers for the motorola box. Now every time I plug the firewire cable in to the computer I get the little noise notifying that a device has been connected, followed by a quick ding ding noise. Also a window pops up for a digital video device. When I check in the tray to remove hardware no device is listed for the firewire port? Anyone have some tips? It seems like initially the comp is detecting the device and then the device disconnects.

It will either show up with the yellow question mark under unknown device, or under imaging devices I believe.

I usually just install the one I need the Tuner one and then disable the other two (unknown and AVC panel)

Alydar

03-07-06, 03:49 AM

I have a problem now recording from my 6412 with CAPDVHS, computer reboots after recording for a few seconds and the error says something like driver IRQ conflict when I checked it out.

I tried uninstalling the drivers and used the newest drivers for the 6412 (not the old Panasonic one) and it will now record but the picture stutters and pixelates every few seconds. All this started happening after the power went out and the 6412 rebooted.

I can record from my 6200 just fine with the old drivers or the new ones. I also tried on my laptop and it does the same thing stutters and pixelates recording form the 6412 with the new drivers and dumps with Panasonic ones, but the laptop also works with my 6200 with either drivers.

This is strange since I have been recording from the 6412 for almost a year, and just recorded a few weeks ago.

I'm having the same problem with my 6412. I had been recording for over a year without any problems. I most recently had success about 3 weeks ago. Could there have been a firmware update from Comcast which could be causing this.
Should I try a factory reset?

timecop

03-07-06, 09:31 AM

Why do HD shows or movies look significantly better when there coming through the cable box hooked up through component than when I play the recordings back on my PC hooked up to my tv through VGA. (I use VLC or Divx to play the .ts recordings.)

You didn't provide enough information about your setup, could be anything from poor MPEG2 decoder filters or bad quality component/VGA out on your video card. Checking around HTPC forum on this site might not be a bad idea since your problem is with playback, not with recording.

taoofbean

03-07-06, 04:14 PM

Hey all: fascinating thread. Forgive anything I miss in the comprehension phase here, I am still learning the limits of hdtv recording and am so far on page 34 of the nearly 80 this thread now contains.

I have a Hitachi 42HDT52 which has a pair of lovely firewire connectors. In order for me to record unencrypted over the air content, do I need the drivers and Windows Media Center Edition or can regular XP provide the interface for my recording needs?

Thanks for the lovely discussion. Always learning...
Mr Bean

PLasma URL: hitachi.us/tv/browse/plasma/plasma/42hdt52.shtml

Huskerfan

03-07-06, 04:35 PM

I have a Hitachi 42HDT52 which has a pair of lovely firewire connectors. In order for me to record unencrypted over the air content, do I need the drivers and Windows Media Center Edition or can regular XP provide the interface for my recording needs?

Not sure I've ever heard firewire connectors described as "lovely" before, but what the hay. Regular XP will be just fine. You should also have a little horsepower in your computer as I found out.

tall1

03-07-06, 04:57 PM

Very new to this stuff. I was able to get my PC to recongnize my STB (Sony from Cablevision) and even got it to record after fiddling around with it. My concern is playback. Very jerky. However, my goal was not to use the PC for playback, but as sort of a video "holding tank", where I would be able to offload movies from DVHS tape to the PC and then record them back to tape when needed.

I was able to capture Sin City on my PC from playing back a tape on my Mitsubishi 2000U, my question is whether there is a way to playback the PC file of Sin City and record it back to tape via the Mitusbishi at a later time? Will any playback software automatically output the stream via firewire? Is there a trick to make the Mitsubishi see the PC as an iLink device? Will it only see it when there is a video stream going?You didn't mention which program you used to capture from tape but both DVHSTools and CapDVHS will allow you to record back to tape or archive. There may be some processing you want to do on the file before archiving back to tape (e.g. mpeg2repair and TStoATSC or TStoATSC3). You can also try VideoReDo's Quick Stream Fix but VRD is $49 the other programs are free. I have found some captures are so glitched nothing will fix them so you need to recapture a few times before you get something that is viewable, particularily anything from Showtime which is a glitch fest.

scoombs

03-07-06, 05:05 PM

Also is there any other software like "FireBus DTV Recorder by Vividlogic"??

I have not been impressed with their software not their service.

Rich

It may be worth taking another look at Firebus, depending on folk's configuration...more details here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7263075&&#post7263075

jgourd

03-08-06, 08:50 AM

After installing the drivers, the AV/C Panel Device has a yellow exclamation point. The tuner device is fine and I can record but the channel changing doesn't. Any Clue?

Question Man

03-08-06, 08:51 AM

Can someone explain to me why it is not possible to record the composite video signals that go to the DTV directly? We all have receivers with extra ports that are carrying the signals required to display the digital image. 5C does not appear to be a problem after the decoding stage. Why can't those signals be stored directly on a DVD recorder? Thanks for enlightening me.

phutbwah

03-08-06, 01:37 PM

Hello all,

This is my first post. I tried to include links, but the forums would not let me.

I have just started trying to get Firewire to work from my (Motorola DCT3412 I) and have had nothing but issues. I have Comcast as my cable company, and they directed me to this forum to be able to access this device. They also tole me that the 3412 and the 6412 use the same firmware.

I have followed the instructions (Green Button Community MSG 104152), followed by the multitude of instructions for fixing the SP2 issue with 1394. It does not make a difference if I use the SP1 files or install the MS patch (both from AVS Forums MSG 5315313)

All roads lead to windows reporting:

Windows cannot start this hardware device because its configuration information (in the registry) is incomplete or damaged. (Code 19)

Does anyone have any clues?

I have a VIA® 6307 IEEE 1394 controller. All patches for XP are installed. All known driver are the latest and ?greatest?.

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

I'm having the same problem with the device showing up in the device manager as being unable to start. I'm also concerned about a firewall message I got around the time I installed the driver.

I'm using a Dell XPS M140 with Windows XP Media Center Edition. Has anyone managed to get this working with a Comcast/Motorola DCT3412 I?

- Phut

HighdefDoug

03-08-06, 08:53 PM

timecop

03-08-06, 09:14 PM

Does the tuner subunit on motorola boxes not support DSIT (0xC8) AV/C command, why is the panel subunit being used to change channels? Can someone in the know tell me about this?

HighdefDoug

03-08-06, 10:48 PM

weldon

03-08-06, 11:13 PM

got the vid capture working using the capdvhs, displayed very easily and PERFECTLY on the VLC...really cool.

Okay....thought...incorrectly that the firewire would make the MOTOROLA 6412 Hare drive appear as another source, so I could grab an already saved item and bring it over to the laptop, and bun a dvd of my last 24, or CSI, etc...

Can someone help a dumb guy here? Please?
What is it that you need help with? You say that you have video capture working properly and that you have already realized that the firewire is just the pipe to stream the video out of the 6412, not an interface to the box as external storage. All you can do, which you have already done, is to capture the streaming video coming out of the firewire port onto your computer as the 6412 plays back the show. Were you just looking for confirmation that you have done all you can?

scoombs

03-09-06, 11:34 AM

What is it that you need help with? You say that you have video capture working properly and that you have already realized that the firewire is just the pipe to stream the video out of the 6412, not an interface to the box as external storage. All you can do, which you have already done, is to capture the streaming video coming out of the firewire port onto your computer as the 6412 plays back the show. Were you just looking for confirmation that you have done all you can?

If he plays back the previously recorded content, will it then be "streaming" the video out the pipe, and then be capturable for him? Essentially a dub procedure?

weldon

03-09-06, 07:42 PM

If he plays back the previously recorded content, will it then be "streaming" the video out the pipe, and then be capturable for him? Essentially a dub procedure?
Yes. There are two tuners to record two shows at once, but the box can only playback/decode one show at once. The 6412 can output that video stream through the various analog ports and/or the firewire port. While it is streaming the show over the firewire port, you can capture the output on your computer much as you would capture the composite video output with your VCR.

slim79

03-09-06, 09:25 PM

Does the tuner subunit on motorola boxes not support DSIT (0xC8) AV/C command, why is the panel subunit being used to change channels? Can someone in the know tell me about this?

I found this in the readme of firewire.zip but I really don't know the details

"The AV/C Panel device seems to be an emulation of the front panel of the STB and so accepts the channel change commands. The firewire tuner device does not support change channel commands and using the –f parameter with channel.exe to force the firewire tuner device to be used will blue screen the machine."

timecop

03-09-06, 09:44 PM

I found this in the readme of firewire.zip but I really don't know the details

who is the author of the hacks in this firewire.zip and where can they be found?

slim79

03-09-06, 11:20 PM

who is the author of the hacks in this firewire.zip and where can they be found?

he hasn't posted since last november. but I see he was online today when I checked
http://www.thegreenbutton.com/community/userinfo.aspx?id=20816

OKCrew

03-10-06, 06:56 PM

Has anyone implemented these firewire connections on Cox systems (DVR or nonDVR) in Tulsa, Oklahoma? I currently get my HD from E* but am considering returning to cable. If I could connect my HP MCE to the STB, that would sway me to return. Thanks...

castellana

03-10-06, 10:39 PM

I've been able to record using graphedit however there has always been artifacting and dropouts on abc and pbs and UHD.Capdvhs always "encountered an error" when I ran it for more than a minute.INHD and ESPNHD were encrypted so even though I could record, the stream was not watchable with all that interference.I've been experimenting with MAC OS X for Intel and lo and behold with Apple's firewire development kit not only can I finally record the ota HD channels with absolutely no drop outs or artifacting(perfect stream) but I thank God for my 150 I.Q. - I am now able to record INHD and ESPNHD perfectly(5c encryption just disappeared when interfacing with the cable box through Mac OS X.I would just like to thank Steve Jobs,Mom, and none of you at this forum.

timecop

03-11-06, 09:49 AM

I am now able to record INHD and ESPNHD perfectly(5c encryption just disappeared when interfacing with the cable box through Mac OS X

As much as I'd like to believe that, its just not technically possible.

castellana

03-11-06, 11:06 AM

what do you want as proof-I can uplaod a sample clip recorded through windows that has interference and another clip recorded through mac that is a perfect stream.Give me an ftp link and I'll show you.

timecop

03-11-06, 07:33 PM

5C is not interference. 5C is black screen.
If you can record them now, it simply means your local cable co hasn't figured out how to turn the flag on all the premium channels. But it will happen sooner or later.

castellana

03-11-06, 08:18 PM

Actually 5C can either be a black screen or digital garbage.I called my provider and they said 5C was turned on for everything other than the local ota channels.

HDTVFanAtic

03-12-06, 01:42 AM

Cablevision hasn't been very good on their 5c encryption for years. Though they will tell you its not on, they seem to constantly keep turning it off.

Enjoy it while you can. It has nothing to do with a Mac.

smodak

03-12-06, 08:59 PM

This is conflicting with Nero 7/ Vision 4. Whenever I start vision 4, the BSODs.
If I go to device manage and disable Motorola 6412 Firewire AVC Device, Nero vision works fine. So, when Nero Vision starts, it tries to list and enumerate all capture devices and that somehow is conflicting with this Motorola cable tuner. The moment I enable it and start Nero Vision 4, the PC crashes again (BSOD).
Here is my crash dump analysis...any ideas?

************************************************************ ******

Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.6.0003.5
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Loading Dump File [C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini031106-02.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

Symbol search path is: srv*c:\symbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Executable search path is: c:\windows\i386
Unable to load image \WINDOWS\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe, Win32 error 2
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
Windows XP Kernel Version 2600 (Service Pack 2) UP Free x86 compatible
Product: WinNt
Kernel base = 0x804d7000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0x805531a0
Debug session time: Sat Mar 11 02:36:56.276 2006 (GMT-5)
System Uptime: 0 days 0:53:39.769
Engine is busy, try again
Verbose mode ON.
Engine is busy, try again
Unable to load image \WINDOWS\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe, Win32 error 2
Loading symbols for 804d7000 ntkrnlpa.exe -> ntkrnlpa.exe
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for ntkrnlpa.exe
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for ntkrnlpa.exe
ModLoad: 804d7000 806cd280 \WINDOWS\system32\ntkrnlpa.exe
Loading Kernel Symbols
.ModLoad: 806ce000 806ee380 \WINDOWS\system32\hal.dll
.ModLoad: bada8000 bada9b80 \WINDOWS\system32\KDCOM.DLL
.ModLoad: bacb8000 bacbb000 \WINDOWS\system32\BOOTVID.dll
.ModLoad: ba779000 ba7a6d80 ACPI.sys
.ModLoad: badaa000 badab100 \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\WMILIB.SYS
.ModLoad: ba768000 ba778a80 pci.sys
.ModLoad: ba8a8000 ba8b0c00 isapnp.sys
.ModLoad: ba8b8000 ba8c6e80 ohci1394.sys
.ModLoad: ba8c8000 ba8d5000 \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\1394BUS.SYS
.ModLoad: bae70000 bae70d00 pciide.sys
.ModLoad: bab28000 bab2e200 \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\PCIIDEX.SYS
.ModLoad: ba8d8000 ba8e2500 MountMgr.sys
.ModLoad: ba749000 ba767880 ftdisk.sys
.ModLoad: badac000 badad700 dmload.sys
.ModLoad: ba723000 ba748700 dmio.sys
.ModLoad: bab30000 bab34900 PartMgr.sys
.ModLoad: ba8e8000 ba8f4c80 VolSnap.sys
.ModLoad: ba70b000 ba722480 atapi.sys
.ModLoad: ba6f7000 ba70a600 nvatabus.sys
.ModLoad: ba6d0000 ba6f7000 Si3114r5.sys
.ModLoad: ba6b8000 ba6cf800 \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\SCSIPORT.SYS
.ModLoad: ba8f8000 ba900e00 disk.sys
.ModLoad: ba908000 ba914200 \WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\CLASSPNP.SYS
.ModLoad: ba699000 ba6b7780 fltMgr.sys
.ModLoad: ba687000 ba698f00 sr.sys
.ModLoad: bacbc000 bacbe580 SiWinAcc.sys
.ModLoad: bab38000 bab3cde0 PxHelp20.sys
.ModLoad: ba670000 ba686780 KSecDD.sys
.ModLoad: ba918000 ba923900 Defrag32b.sys
.ModLoad: ba5e3000 ba66f480 Ntfs.sys
.ModLoad: ba5b6000 ba5e2a80 NDIS.sys
.ModLoad: ba928000 ba932900 sbp2port.sys
.ModLoad: bab40000 bab45280 nv_agp.sys
.ModLoad: ba59b000 ba5b5580 Mup.sys
.ModLoad: bacc0000 bacc4000 acpispy.sys
.ModLoad: babe0000 babe6b00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\fdc.sys
.ModLoad: baf76000 baf76b80 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\msmpu401.sys
.ModLoad: b9374000 b9397980 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\portcls.sys
.ModLoad: b9dfb000 b9e09b80 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\drmk.sys
.ModLoad: b9351000 b9373680 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ks.sys
.ModLoad: b9deb000 b9df7e00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\i8042prt.sys
.ModLoad: babe8000 babee000 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
.ModLoad: babf0000 babf5a00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
.ModLoad: ba55b000 ba55d980 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\gameenum.sys
.ModLoad: b9ddb000 b9dead80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serial.sys
.ModLoad: ba557000 ba55ac80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serenum.sys
.ModLoad: babf8000 babfc280 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbohci.sys
.ModLoad: b932e000 b9350e80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\USBPORT.SYS
.ModLoad: bac00000 bac06800 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbehci.sys
.ModLoad: ba553000 ba556280 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nvnetbus.sys
.ModLoad: b9dcb000 b9dd8e80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\NVNRM.SYS
.ModLoad: b92ff000 b932db00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\NVSNPU.SYS
.ModLoad: b9268000 b92fe400 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ALCXWDM.SYS
.ModLoad: b9206000 b9267c00 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ALCXSENS.SYS
.ModLoad: b9dbb000 b9dc5380 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys
.ModLoad: bac08000 bac0d000 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\AnyDVD.sys
.ModLoad: b9dab000 b9db7180 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
.ModLoad: b9d9b000 b9da9080 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys
.ModLoad: b8ea6000 b9205780 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nv4_mini.sys
.ModLoad: b8e92000 b8ea5780 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\VIDEOPRT.SYS
.ModLoad: b8e63000 b8e92000 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\zl88vcap.sys
.ModLoad: b9428000 b9433e00 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\STREAM.SYS
.ModLoad: bad50000 bad53000 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\zl88aud.sys
.ModLoad: bac10000 bac15000 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\zl88tcap.sys
.ModLoad: b8dcd000 b8e62180 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\MDP100_XP.sys
.ModLoad: b8daf000 b8dcca80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\hcwPP2.sys
.ModLoad: b9418000 b9423c00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\61883.sys
.ModLoad: b9408000 b9417180 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nic1394.sys
.ModLoad: b93f8000 b9406000 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\AmdK8.sys
.ModLoad: baf89000 baf89c00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\audstub.sys
.ModLoad: b93e8000 b93f4880 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasl2tp.sys
.ModLoad: bad54000 bad56580 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndistapi.sys
.ModLoad: b8d98000 b8dae680 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndiswan.sys
.ModLoad: b93d8000 b93e2200 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspppoe.sys
.ModLoad: b93c8000 b93d3d00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspptp.sys
.ModLoad: bac18000 bac1c880 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\TDI.SYS
.ModLoad: b8d87000 b8d97e00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\psched.sys
.ModLoad: b93b8000 b93c0900 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\msgpc.sys
.ModLoad: bac20000 bac24580 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ptilink.sys
.ModLoad: bac28000 bac2c080 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspti.sys
.ModLoad: b8d56000 b8d86100 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdpdr.sys
.ModLoad: b93a8000 b93b1f00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\termdd.sys
.ModLoad: bade0000 bade1100 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
.ModLoad: b8d22000 b8d55200 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\update.sys
.ModLoad: bad74000 bad77c80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mssmbios.sys
.ModLoad: bac30000 bac35000 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\amdtools.sys
.ModLoad: b9398000 b93a1800 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\avc.sys
.ModLoad: b9f58000 b9f61480 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
.ModLoad: b9d3c000 b9d3f580 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\avcstrm.sys
.ModLoad: bac38000 bac3d300 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\meistb.sys
.ModLoad: b9f38000 b9f43f80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mstapeo.sys
.ModLoad: b7273000 b7281100 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
.ModLoad: bae4c000 bae4d280 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\USBD.SYS
.ModLoad: adb8d000 adb95200 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\NVENETFD.sys
.ModLoad: 9d040000 9d06c000 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\zl88tune.sys
.ModLoad: 9d012000 9d040000 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\zl88bda.sys
.ModLoad: 9ec23000 9ec25e00 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\BdaSup.SYS
.ModLoad: 9e7d2000 9e7d7000 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\flpydisk.sys
.ModLoad: bae4a000 bae4bf00 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.SYS
.ModLoad: 9e9f5000 9e9f5b80 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
.ModLoad: bae4e000 bae4f080 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
.ModLoad: 9e7c2000 9e7c8180 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\HIDPARSE.SYS
.ModLoad: 9e7ba000 9e7bf200 \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
.ModLoad: bae50000 bae51080 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mnmdd.SYS
.ModLoad: bae52000 bae53080 \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\RDPCDD.sys
.ModLoad: 9e7b2000 9e7b6a80 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
.ModLoad: 9e7aa000 9e7b1880 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
.ModLoad: 9ec17000 9ec19280 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasacd.sys
.ModLoad: 9cf7b000 9cf8d400 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ipsec.sys
.ModLoad: 9cf23000 9cf7ad80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tcpip.sys
.ModLoad: 9cefb000 9cf22c00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
.ModLoad: 9cea1000 9cefa940 \SystemRoot\System32\vsdatant.sys
.ModLoad: 9ce80000 9cea0f00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ipnat.sys
.ModLoad: 9ecc1000 9ecc9700 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wanarp.sys
.ModLoad: 9e8df000 9e8edd80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\arp1394.sys
.ModLoad: 9e7a2000 9e7a7960 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\iMON_SS.sys
.ModLoad: 9e8cf000 9e8da600 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\IrBus.sys
.ModLoad: 9e55d000 9e55f580 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\hidusb.sys
.ModLoad: 9e8bf000 9e8c7d80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\HIDCLASS.SYS
.ModLoad: 9ce5e000 9ce7fd00 \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\afd.sys
.ModLoad: 9e8af000 9e8b7700 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
.ModLoad: 9ce33000 9ce5da00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
.ModLoad: 9cdc4000 9ce32400 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
.ModLoad: 9e88f000 9e897880 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fips.SYS
.ModLoad: 9e79a000 9e7a0780 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\USBSTOR.SYS
.ModLoad: 9e792000 9e796b00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\hidir.sys
.ModLoad: 9e551000 9e554a00 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
.ModLoad: 9e54d000 9e54ff80 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouhid.sys
.ModLoad: 9cd0c000 9cdc3be0 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\avg7core.sys
.ModLoad: bae5c000 bae5d0c0 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\avg7rsw.sys
.ModLoad: 9e417000 9e41d000 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\avg7rsxp.sys
.ModLoad: 9cce9000 9cd0c000 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fastfat.SYS
.ModLoad: 9ccd5000 9cce8600 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\dump_nvatabus.sys
.ModLoad: 9cfbc000 9cfbd100 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\dump_WMILIB.SYS
.ModLoad: bf800000 bf9c1180 \SystemRoot\System32\win32k.sys
.ModLoad: a7eff000 a7f01900 \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\Dxapi.sys
.ModLoad: 9cffa000 9cffe500 \SystemRoot\System32\watchdog.sys
.ModLoad: bf9c2000 bf9d3580 \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxg.sys
.ModLoad: baec4000 baec4d00 \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgthk.sys
.ModLoad: a12a3000 a12a6900 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndisuio.sys
.ModLoad: 9af8f000 9afa3400 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\wdmaud.sys
.ModLoad: 9fa93000 9faa1d80 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\sysaudio.sys
.ModLoad: adbbd000 adbcc900 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Cdfs.SYS
.ModLoad: 9adc2000 9adee400 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxdav.sys
.ModLoad: baed5000 baed5da0 \??\C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\aslm75.sys
.ModLoad: badce000 badcf380 \??\C:\WINDOWS\System32\Drivers\avgtdi.sys
.ModLoad: a7bd3000 a7bde900 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Defrag32.SYS
.ModLoad: 9afd8000 9afdb000 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ElbyCDIO.sys
.ModLoad: 9abbf000 9abff100 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\HTTP.sys
.ModLoad: 9aa50000 9aaa1300 \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
.ModLoad: ad315000 ad316380 \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\MSPQM.sys
.ModLoad: a9c42000 a9c47500 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\TDTCP.SYS
.ModLoad: 9a241000 9a263080 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\RDPWD.SYS
.ModLoad: bff60000 bff76780 \SystemRoot\System32\RDPDD.dll
.ModLoad: bf9d4000 bfd99b00 \SystemRoot\System32\nv4_disp.dll

Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
.............
Loaded dbghelp extension DLL
Loaded ext extension DLL
Loaded exts extension DLL
Loaded kext extension DLL
Loaded kdexts extension DLL
************************************************************ *******************
* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
************************************************************ *******************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 50, {995c9000, 1, bac38e12, 0}

***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.

Loading symbols for bad74000 mssmbios.sys -> mssmbios.sys
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for mssmbios.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for mssmbios.sys
Unable to load image \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\meistb.sys, Win32 error 2
Loading symbols for bac38000 meistb.sys -> meistb.sys
*** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for meistb.sys
*** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for meistb.sys
Probably caused by : meistb.sys ( meistb+e12 )

Followup: MachineOwner
---------

kd> !analyze -v
************************************************************ *******************
* *
* Bugcheck Analysis *
* *
************************************************************ *******************

PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA (50)
Invalid system memory was referenced. This cannot be protected by try-except,
it must be protected by a Probe. Typically the address is just plain bad or it
is pointing at freed memory.
Arguments:
Arg1: 995c9000, memory referenced.
Arg2: 00000001, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation.
Arg3: bac38e12, If non-zero, the instruction address which referenced the bad memory
address.
Arg4: 00000000, (reserved)

Debugging Details:
------------------

***** Kernel symbols are WRONG. Please fix symbols to do analysis.

MODULE_NAME: meistb

FAULTING_MODULE: 804d7000 nt

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 3a7653bc

WRITE_ADDRESS: unable to get nt!MmSpecialPoolStart
unable to get nt!MmSpecialPoolEnd
unable to get nt!MmPoolCodeStart
unable to get nt!MmPoolCodeEnd
995c9000

FAULTING_IP:
meistb+e12
bac38e12 ?? ???

MM_INTERNAL_CODE: 0

CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 2

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT

BUGCHECK_STR: 0x50

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 00000000 to 804f8925

STACK_TEXT:
995c8768 00000000 995c9000 00000001 995c87fc nt+0x21925

STACK_COMMAND: .bugcheck ; kb

FOLLOWUP_IP:
meistb+e12
bac38e12 ?? ???

FAULTING_SOURCE_CODE:

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

SYMBOL_NAME: meistb+e12

IMAGE_NAME: meistb.sys

BUCKET_ID: WRONG_SYMBOLS

Followup: MachineOwner
---------

kd> !analyze -show
Unknown bugcheck code (0)
Unknown bugcheck description
Arguments:
Arg1: 00000000
Arg2: 00000000
Arg3: 00000000
Arg4: 00000000
kd> lm N T
Unknown option 'N'
Unknown option 'T'
start end module name
804d7000 806cd280 nt T (no symbols)
806ce000 806ee380 hal (deferred)
9a241000 9a263080 RDPWD (deferred)
9aa50000 9aaa1300 srv (deferred)
9abbf000 9abff100 HTTP (deferred)
9adc2000 9adee400 mrxdav (deferred)
9af8f000 9afa3400 wdmaud (deferred)
9afd8000 9afdb000 ElbyCDIO (deferred)
9ccd5000 9cce8600 dump_nvatabus (deferred)
9cce9000 9cd0c000 Fastfat (deferred)
9cd0c000 9cdc3be0 avg7core (deferred)
9cdc4000 9ce32400 mrxsmb (deferred)
9ce33000 9ce5da00 rdbss (deferred)
9ce5e000 9ce7fd00 afd (deferred)
9ce80000 9cea0f00 ipnat (deferred)
9cea1000 9cefa940 vsdatant (deferred)
9cefb000 9cf22c00 netbt (deferred)
9cf23000 9cf7ad80 tcpip (deferred)
9cf7b000 9cf8d400 ipsec (deferred)
9cfbc000 9cfbd100 dump_WMILIB (deferred)
9cffa000 9cffe500 watchdog (deferred)
9d012000 9d040000 zl88bda (deferred)
9d040000 9d06c000 zl88tune (deferred)
9e417000 9e41d000 avg7rsxp (deferred)
9e54d000 9e54ff80 mouhid (deferred)
9e551000 9e554a00 kbdhid (deferred)
9e55d000 9e55f580 hidusb (deferred)
9e792000 9e796b00 hidir (deferred)
9e79a000 9e7a0780 USBSTOR (deferred)
9e7a2000 9e7a7960 iMON_SS (deferred)
9e7aa000 9e7b1880 Npfs (deferred)
9e7b2000 9e7b6a80 Msfs (deferred)
9e7ba000 9e7bf200 vga (deferred)
9e7c2000 9e7c8180 HIDPARSE (deferred)
9e7d2000 9e7d7000 flpydisk (deferred)
9e88f000 9e897880 Fips (deferred)
9e8af000 9e8b7700 netbios (deferred)
9e8bf000 9e8c7d80 HIDCLASS (deferred)
9e8cf000 9e8da600 IrBus (deferred)
9e8df000 9e8edd80 arp1394 (deferred)
9e9f5000 9e9f5b80 Null (deferred)
9ec17000 9ec19280 rasacd (deferred)
9ec23000 9ec25e00 BdaSup (deferred)
9ecc1000 9ecc9700 wanarp (deferred)
9fa93000 9faa1d80 sysaudio (deferred)
a12a3000 a12a6900 ndisuio (deferred)
a7bd3000 a7bde900 Defrag32 (deferred)
a7eff000 a7f01900 Dxapi (deferred)
a9c42000 a9c47500 TDTCP (deferred)
ad315000 ad316380 MSPQM (deferred)
adb8d000 adb95200 NVENETFD (deferred)
adbbd000 adbcc900 Cdfs (deferred)
b7273000 b7281100 usbhub (deferred)
b8d22000 b8d55200 update (deferred)
b8d56000 b8d86100 rdpdr (deferred)
b8d87000 b8d97e00 psched (deferred)
b8d98000 b8dae680 ndiswan (deferred)
b8daf000 b8dcca80 hcwPP2 (deferred)
b8dcd000 b8e62180 MDP100_XP (deferred)
b8e63000 b8e92000 zl88vcap (deferred)
b8e92000 b8ea5780 VIDEOPRT (deferred)
b8ea6000 b9205780 nv4_mini (deferred)
b9206000 b9267c00 ALCXSENS (deferred)
b9268000 b92fe400 ALCXWDM (deferred)
b92ff000 b932db00 NVSNPU (deferred)
b932e000 b9350e80 USBPORT (deferred)
b9351000 b9373680 ks (deferred)
b9374000 b9397980 portcls (deferred)
b9398000 b93a1800 avc (deferred)
b93a8000 b93b1f00 termdd (deferred)
b93b8000 b93c0900 msgpc (deferred)
b93c8000 b93d3d00 raspptp (deferred)
b93d8000 b93e2200 raspppoe (deferred)
b93e8000 b93f4880 rasl2tp (deferred)
b93f8000 b9406000 AmdK8 (deferred)
b9408000 b9417180 nic1394 (deferred)
b9418000 b9423c00 61883 (deferred)
b9428000 b9433e00 STREAM (deferred)
b9d3c000 b9d3f580 avcstrm (deferred)
b9d9b000 b9da9080 redbook (deferred)
b9dab000 b9db7180 cdrom (deferred)
b9dbb000 b9dc5380 imapi (deferred)
b9dcb000 b9dd8e80 NVNRM (deferred)
b9ddb000 b9dead80 serial (deferred)
b9deb000 b9df7e00 i8042prt (deferred)
b9dfb000 b9e09b80 drmk (deferred)
b9f38000 b9f43f80 mstapeo (deferred)
b9f58000 b9f61480 NDProxy (deferred)
ba553000 ba556280 nvnetbus (deferred)
ba557000 ba55ac80 serenum (deferred)
ba55b000 ba55d980 gameenum (deferred)
ba59b000 ba5b5580 Mup (deferred)
ba5b6000 ba5e2a80 NDIS (deferred)
ba5e3000 ba66f480 Ntfs (deferred)
ba670000 ba686780 KSecDD (deferred)
ba687000 ba698f00 sr (deferred)
ba699000 ba6b7780 fltMgr (deferred)
ba6b8000 ba6cf800 SCSIPORT (deferred)
ba6d0000 ba6f7000 Si3114r5 (deferred)
ba6f7000 ba70a600 nvatabus (deferred)
ba70b000 ba722480 atapi (deferred)
ba723000 ba748700 dmio (deferred)
ba749000 ba767880 ftdisk (deferred)
ba768000 ba778a80 pci (deferred)
ba779000 ba7a6d80 ACPI (deferred)
ba8a8000 ba8b0c00 isapnp (deferred)
ba8b8000 ba8c6e80 ohci1394 (deferred)
ba8c8000 ba8d5000 1394BUS (deferred)
ba8d8000 ba8e2500 MountMgr (deferred)
ba8e8000 ba8f4c80 VolSnap (deferred)
ba8f8000 ba900e00 disk (deferred)
ba908000 ba914200 CLASSPNP (deferred)
ba918000 ba923900 Defrag32b (deferred)
ba928000 ba932900 sbp2port (deferred)
bab28000 bab2e200 PCIIDEX (deferred)
bab30000 bab34900 PartMgr (deferred)
bab38000 bab3cde0 PxHelp20 (deferred)
bab40000 bab45280 nv_agp (deferred)
babe0000 babe6b00 fdc (deferred)
babe8000 babee000 kbdclass (deferred)
babf0000 babf5a00 mouclass (deferred)
babf8000 babfc280 usbohci (deferred)
bac00000 bac06800 usbehci (deferred)
bac08000 bac0d000 AnyDVD (deferred)
bac10000 bac15000 zl88tcap (deferred)
bac18000 bac1c880 TDI (deferred)
bac20000 bac24580 ptilink (deferred)
bac28000 bac2c080 raspti (deferred)
bac30000 bac35000 amdtools (deferred)
bac38000 bac3d300 meistb T (no symbols)
bacb8000 bacbb000 BOOTVID (deferred)
bacbc000 bacbe580 SiWinAcc (deferred)
bacc0000 bacc4000 acpispy (deferred)
bad50000 bad53000 zl88aud (deferred)
bad54000 bad56580 ndistapi (deferred)
bad74000 bad77c80 mssmbios T (no symbols)
bada8000 bada9b80 kdcom (deferred)
badaa000 badab100 WMILIB (deferred)
badac000 badad700 dmload (deferred)
badce000 badcf380 avgtdi (deferred)
bade0000 bade1100 swenum (deferred)
bae4a000 bae4bf00 Fs_Rec (deferred)
bae4c000 bae4d280 USBD (deferred)
bae4e000 bae4f080 Beep (deferred)
bae50000 bae51080 mnmdd (deferred)
bae52000 bae53080 RDPCDD (deferred)
bae5c000 bae5d0c0 avg7rsw (deferred)
bae70000 bae70d00 pciide (deferred)
baec4000 baec4d00 dxgthk (deferred)
baed5000 baed5da0 aslm75 (deferred)
baf76000 baf76b80 msmpu401 (deferred)
baf89000 baf89c00 audstub (deferred)
bf800000 bf9c1180 win32k (deferred)
bf9c2000 bf9d3580 dxg (deferred)
bf9d4000 bfd99b00 nv4_disp (deferred)
bff60000 bff76780 RDPDD (deferred)

Unloaded modules:
9af42000 9af6c000 kmixer.sys
bae32000 bae34000 MSKSSRV.sys
baf02000 baf03000 drmkaud.sys
9af6c000 9af8f000 aec.sys
9e37d000 9e38a000 DMusic.sys
9e38d000 9e39b000 swmidi.sys
badec000 badee000 splitter.sys
9ae19000 9ae1c000 zl88xbar.sys
9ad42000 9ad56000 parport.sys
9e89f000 9e8a8000 processr.sys
9ec1b000 9ec1f000 kbdhid.sys
9e7ca000 9e7cf000 Cdaudio.SYS
9ec1f000 9ec22000 Sfloppy.SYS

timecop

03-12-06, 09:20 PM

Yes, its a known bug in the panasonic AVC drivers. It's a bug in the KS/Directshow portion of the driver, and since there is no source code, it can't be fixed.

Workaround 1: don't use nero vision
Workaround 2: tell nerovision to not enumerate this particular capture device (if possible)

Preferred workaround: #1

smodak

03-12-06, 09:33 PM

Frost02

03-12-06, 10:16 PM

Ok after reading this guide I'm still not getting my stb box to work on my winxp system. I have installed the firestb.msi drivers and even the new ones i have received from the author of the drivers Timm Moore, before i installed my drivers i hooked up the box and xp see the 6416 motorola box but then i read i needed to install the drivers first so i did then hooked up the box the unknown comes up i cancel that then the av/c panel comes up tried to install that ... it failed... then the av/c device fails also.. tried skipping the first 2 and do the install the device still fails... i have Verizon Fios and the Motorola 6416 HD/DVR box... any clue whats going on or what I'm doing wrong. capdvs.exe doesn't see any capture devices... i even have a ATI all in wonder 8500 card... any help would be great... Thanks in advance

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Windows XP SP2
AMD Duron 1800+
640MB DDR RAM

DrCrawn

03-13-06, 04:35 PM

Well I just tried this newer method (new to me) and it works quite well. Thumbs up! Now my Tuner AVC Device is listed as a Moto DCT 6412 instead of the universal "Panasonic..." One note, playback in VLC didn't work for me right away, so I installed drivers for both "Tuner AVC Device" as well as "Tuner AVC Panel" and it everything worked fine then. All drivers were installed automatically without problems (there is a reboot in there, and a few XP alerts as far as WHQL goes). Recording with CapDVHS is a breeze and it lists the device as "Motorola AVC Tuner Device."

This is truly a great thread! Thanks!

DrCrawn

03-13-06, 04:49 PM

Frost02

03-13-06, 05:07 PM

What is listed in your device manager under "imaging devices?" There should be two devices listed, try right clicking on each one and "update driver." After clicking no to seach online for drivers, let the driver install automatically for each device. Hope that helps.

Also, when I first plugged the firewire in, I only cancelled the first "found new hardware."

I shows as Av/C Device under the imaging devices the av/c panel is under unkown devices along with unknown device all have the yellow ! i tried to install drivers i get the error can't not install hardware because the wizard can not find the necessary software. what's going on? drivers are installed is there a problem with the new 6416 boxes?

slim79

03-13-06, 08:09 PM

I shows as Av/C Device under the imaging devices the av/c panel is under unkown devices along with unknown device all have the yellow ! i tried to install drivers i get the error can't not install hardware because the wizard can not find the necessary software. what's going on? drivers are installed is there a problem with the new 6416 boxes?

I seem to recall others having problems with the 6416...does anyone out there have it working on this box?

teague

03-13-06, 11:06 PM

I seem to recall others having problems with the 6416...does anyone out there have it working on this box?

I can caputure fine with the 6416, same as the 6412 I used to have. After a capture, the FW/RW buttons may not work. A reboot on the Motorola box fixes that. I had that problem since the 12.27 firmware upgrade in Jan 06, and on both the 6412, and the 6416, so it's not specific to the 6416.

Chris

rastetter

03-14-06, 06:49 AM

when i plug my 3250HD into my TV via Firewire, guide and info are not supported, along with all the HD channels

however i know the firewire on the TV supports HD, because it works great with my brothers mac plugged into it

i was guessing the 3250hd did not have 1080i output through firewire, i guess i was wrong?

Ill try this out though

slim79

03-14-06, 11:20 PM

I can caputure fine with the 6416, same as the 6412 I used to have. After a capture, the FW/RW buttons may not work. A reboot on the Motorola box fixes that. I had that problem since the 12.27 firmware upgrade in Jan 06, and on both the 6412, and the 6416, so it's not specific to the 6416.

Chris
thx

I can't seem to get it to work with a moxi motorola bmc9012f but my 6200 works.
I think it is something digeo has done to protect the content.

mikej3131

03-15-06, 07:24 PM

ok if im understanding this correctly, i can not transfer my videos off my motorola dct6214's hard drive? i can only watch live tv with the firewire?

weldon

03-15-06, 08:07 PM

ok if im understanding this correctly, i can not transfer my videos off my motorola dct6214's hard drive? i can only watch live tv with the firewire?
You can capture the video (either live or a recording being played back) in real-time by recording the digital stream over firewire. You cannot access the DCT6412's storage system as though it was an external hard drive hooked up to your PC.

Suma4

03-16-06, 12:12 PM

Hello
Sorry for the long post. I searched this thread but haven’t been able to find any solutions to my problem and I am getting furious. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I have been recording from my Motorola 6412 for about a month now, problem-free.

Just recently, I have lost the ability to view and record from my cable box, and I don’t know why. This change did not coincide with any other computer issues.

When I open CapDVHS, everything is as normal except that when I press record, no file information comes up in the boxes. I know it is recording something, because the timer moves and it creates a file of normal size (~1.5 GB for a half hour show), but none of my programs will open it (VLC, Womble)

Similarly, when I open VLC to view live cable, I select the source as normal, but nothing comes up. The play button switches to a pause, but I get no audio/video.

After the problems started, I went to my dad’s house (same Motorola 6412). When I plugged into his box, I was prompted to install the drivers again, same as it did the very first time I installed them. I went through the process and successfully viewed and recorded as normal. When I went home and tried it on my box, it worked, but only temporarily and I eventually lost the functionality again.

The computer recognizes the cable box when I plug it in and the device manager still shows the drivers under imaging devices when I have the box plugged into the computer. When I plug the cable box into the computer while the cable box is off, the cable box will power up, so I assume the cable box recognizes the output connection.

Also, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers, and both capdvhs and vclan, but nothing has worked. I even downgraded to service pack 1, just to try something. Nothing has worked

Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

Naylia

03-16-06, 01:42 PM

You got 5C'd it sounds like...:(

5C is a flag that can be set on content that will not allow recording of the material if the recording box does not respond that it is acknowledging the 5C flag.

Suma4

03-16-06, 03:19 PM

when I go to the diagnostic screen, 5C shows a 0
Even if it was 5C'd, couldn't I still watch, just not record?

UPdate: Turns out they turned on 5C and de-activated all of my firewire ports. Thanks comcast.

Naylia

03-16-06, 03:31 PM

well then maybe it's not 5C....5C does prevent you from watching (watching/recording are virtually the same to the pc)

you could try taking the box into one of the cable co's offices and tell them it's acting weird and ask them to swap it for you...dont' try that over the phone because they'll send a guy out, he'll just test your picture and they'll probably charge you for a service call. But you should be able to walk in with it and swap the box pretty easy if they have any on hand.

Suma4

03-16-06, 03:41 PM

thanks for the replies

I'll try swapping out the box.

If they did actually flag me, and its all over, at least I got about 25 "free" hours of simpsons and aqua teen on dvd now.

BobV

03-16-06, 10:42 PM

Hi:
If anyone can help I would really appreciate it. I spent all night trying to hook up my ieee included laptop to my comcast dual tuner dvr with firewire output. I followed the instructions, but when the panel and tuner software was installed it failed. I uninstalled and reinstalled several times. My DVR is Motorola's latest dual tuner hd DVR. The latest has hdmi out to connect to my flat panel's hdmi in. The firmware on my stb is in the 12's, 12.22 I believe. Am I just ahead of the software (drivers) so that my stb is too new for that listed in this post?
New to trying to capture digital to pc. They make it sound easy, just connect the firewire, run the movie maker and go. Unfortunately, that does not seem to be the case in using an stb to pc connection.
Video capture device not found in xp movie maker or the software listed here, downloaded and run.

Thanks for any help you can provide.
Bob (Novice at this)

PS: What does MCE stand for?

eb50

03-17-06, 10:38 AM

thanks op. i followed your instructions slowly last night and it worked the first time around. captured from my 6412. i really wanted to grab this seasons sopranos in HD. thanks again

Cucuy

03-17-06, 02:10 PM

PS: What does MCE stand for?

It's a Windows operating system with emphasis on entertainment.

MCE= Media Center Edition

BobV

03-17-06, 03:23 PM

Thank you (duh to me)

BobV

03-17-06, 03:25 PM

I tried to update my previous post regarding the success I had with Kevin Moye's instructions. (found here!)

Thank you Kevin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So far all works like a charm. Next step setting up for recording.

dantonow

03-18-06, 10:49 AM

Need a bit of help from the experts. I have succesfully captured video from my Motorola 6412 using CapDVHS. After capture, I play the .ts file in media player classic. All is fine. Both video and audio are perfect. I then open DGIndex, set audio and video PID's. When I play the file in DGIndex, I do not have any sound. DGIndex information box shows nothing in the audio format box and time stamp doesn't move when playing. Next step using HDTV to MPEG2 converter, I believe I'm doing all the steps right. I convert the .ts file to .mpg and then play the .mpg file in a number of media players and still no sound. Am I doing something wrong when setting the audio and video PID's? My PID's are usually 0x900 for video and 0x901 for audio. Thanks!

timecop

03-18-06, 09:04 PM

Upgrade to latest dgindex and use detect PIDs by PAT/PMT option.
Also there will never be sound in dgindex. If you tell it to, it will demux audio to a separate ac3/mpg file.

dantonow

03-18-06, 11:32 PM

Upgrade to latest dgindex and use detect PIDs by PAT/PMT option.
Also there will never be sound in dgindex. If you tell it to, it will demux audio to a separate ac3/mpg file.

Thanks timecop!. Works perfectly!

dantonow

03-19-06, 01:56 AM

One more thing. I usually use Vegas 6 to edit video. So far it's always been .avi files from my camcorder. When I dropped in the .mpg file, no sound just video. Any experience with this? I just want to edit out commercials. Thanks!

dantonow

03-19-06, 02:06 PM

Ok, I just had DGIndex output a separate wave file. Dropped both the wave and mpg in vegas and edited both to remove commercials. Tried to edit using hdtv to mpeg2 earlier and I can''t get the cuts precise enough. Anyway. Additional editing thoughts appreciated.

alienstookmybeer

03-19-06, 02:09 PM

Sorry if this was discussed before and I missed it, but I didn't find it with a search.

I've noticed a problem with hi-def captures (SD is ok) where the time seems to get out of sync after about 5 minutes. So when I try to play back a ts stream, I can't pause or fast forward at any point after the sync is lost when I play it using Elecard's media player or WMP (VideoLan works a little better).

Any recommendations?

timecop

03-19-06, 06:24 PM

If price is not an issue, Womble MPEG Video Wizard is a great tool which can cut TS directly, as well as demux into video/audio streams, if needed. I'm not aware of any free alternative to this program, because (unlike free/opensource software) it actually works very good. (http://www.womble.com/)

dantonow

03-19-06, 09:28 PM

Excellent! I'm working in mpeg video wizard right now. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks a ton!!

HDTVFanAtic

03-20-06, 01:29 AM

Advise you to dump Womble. It looses sync badly and outputs .ts streams that are technically "spec" but incompatiable with many players.

The author has ignored all requests to fix it for the last 18 months.

VideoRedo is the proven alternative right now.

timecop

03-20-06, 10:04 AM

HDTVFanAtic

03-21-06, 01:14 AM

Coulda fooled me.
womble stuff produces perfect video cuts with all sorts of mpeg material that I throw at it, both SD and HD, I've never had problems with sync, and I've used it numerous times for trimming ts caps from my HC1 camera, again without any sync issues. As far as "incompatible with many players", well, you must be using AMD.

Never had an AMD processor in my life.

Glad you have no sync issues with your HC1 camera.

Now, try and open your editted womble output in HDTVtoMpeg2 or any other numerous items and see how far your get.

Also run it through MPEG2Repair with all the verbose errors.

And when you get to real world of movies with AC3 Audio, you'll find out the hard way.

Again, lots of luck but for anyone that wants a frame accurate editor that gives you a proper output, womble isn't it.

timecop

03-21-06, 07:43 AM

Willie

03-21-06, 08:36 AM

Advise you to dump Womble. It looses sync badly and outputs .ts streams that are technically "spec" but incompatiable with many players.

Specifically, what players?

Womble works well for me. Edited content streams to my Roku perfectly. Plays back fine with VLC & PDVD 6.0 among others. No sync problems whatsoever.

Willie

Frost02

03-21-06, 10:59 AM

Well after a few weeks of trying i finally got my firewire working...geez all that work... now my problem is the capD-VHS only records half the time some shows on spike i get it to work like TNA impact recorded off my dvr i got the settings of the 580*480 or something close to that with 15mbps... but some stuff off the same channel start to record but 0mb files... any clue on this... i'm sure if it was 5c it would be on all shows and just just some on the same channel

abcosta

03-21-06, 12:40 PM

BEK

03-21-06, 12:56 PM

I posted a whlie back that I was unable to archive from my Mot 6412 and that the problem seemed to be that no signal was coming out of my firewire ports. I tried a few suggestions including power-cycling the machine, resetting the machine and trying both ports (though I think I read somewhere that the outer one is recommended over the inner). Still no luck --- when I connect to my PC (running XP Home SP2) the PC doesn't respond as if anything happened at all (no hardware wizard appears yet everyone else I've read on this thread indicates that a wizard appears for them at this point).

Any other ideas what I might try? Has anyone else had similar experiences? Thanks.

BrokenVisage

03-21-06, 01:55 PM

Hey guys, I have this box and ordered a FireWire card for my PC so I can connect to it. My question is can I use the 1394b 9-pin input for this process? I'm in the middle of buying cables and want to get the right one and the 6->9 cable is more than 2x the price of an ordinary 6-pin to 6-pin cable, which one should I buy? Thanks guys.

abcosta

03-21-06, 02:33 PM

hi
1394b 9-pin should do it, although I've actually never tried it...I am in the process of trying to connect DCT box to my laptop, it only has the 1394b 9-pin ( within a couple of days), will gladly post the outcome...Meantime, for your cable needs, checkout ebay ...dont go to an electronics store to purchase it...too much $$$...peace

mikej3131

03-21-06, 03:24 PM

Can someone please explain to me what this womble is? i captured the .ts file and i can convert the .ts to .mpeg using hdtv to mpeg2. Isnt that what womble does, why doesnt everybody just use free hdtvtompeg2????

Also does anybody know a free software that cuts out commercials or if there are any tutorials on cutting out commercials with hdtvtompeg2?

Does anybody else get low quality captures. i looked at the first capture i got today and it was low quality, a lil fuzzy i geuss you can say. Am i doing something wrong here?

Frost02

03-21-06, 05:24 PM

hi...thank you all for the great info on how to record firewire to PC...Thank heaven for the AVS forum, and to all members that post here!...
I record mostly HD content. Lately some of my1 hour long shows stream with no problems to the PC. CAP DVHS also captures it with no issues. When I playback the file it only has 30 minutes worth of content :mad: , not the full hour...even though the file is 4.2 gb( an actual hour long)
Has anyone else had this problem? :(

thanks
albert

I'm having the same issue with my motorola 6416 box 60 min wrestling show only pulled 40 min of video. Friend said its a GOP closing maybe. Any ideas. and as for .ts files needing a program as well to cut commericals out without having to transfer the .ts to a mpeg2

RalphArch

03-21-06, 06:00 PM

Any ideas. and as for .ts files needing a program as well to cut commericals out without having to transfer the .ts to a mpeg2

use TSEdit (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=3722699&&#post3722699)

abcosta

03-21-06, 09:19 PM

I updated the main post.
I replaced the drivers with new versions that work better with XP sp2.
They also support changing channels and Windows Media Center Edition recording.

where's the location of the main post? thanks in advance! :)

timecop

03-21-06, 11:38 PM

that would be the first post of this thread, d'oh.

HDTVFanAtic

03-22-06, 01:41 AM

See, you keep bringing up all these extra tools you have to use like hdtvtompeg2 (why do i need it at all?) and mpeg2repair (what? repair what?) but with womble you dont even need any of them. And I've used womble with ac3 (2ch), not on pirated but on my own created content, and I had zero problems, again.

I did download videoredo, just so that you don't think I'm a complete as.hole and gave it a try. Here's my quick review: timeline seeking is about 5x slower than in womble, the interface is horrendous, there are NO tools to demux TS or mux ES to PS/TS, it doesn't show which parts of the video will be reencoded due to cuts, the preview window is slow, each time I open some menu it flickers the screen... Oh, its half the price of womble, but has 1/10th of its features and 5x the slowness. no thanks!

Oh, and I just tried to exit it and it asked me "You have unsaved edits. Click 'Yes' to proceeed and lose your edits", with the "Yes" button selected by default, and no "cancel" choice. So not only does it have a nonsensical message, it selects the action which would create the most damage. If you notice, the proper way to do that dialog would be "You have unsaved edits. Do you want to save the changes? Yes/No/Cancel".

You know what, there you go making assumptions - "pirated content" that statement shows you know nothing about the law as I don't have pirated content under the laws of the United States.

If I want to cut the commercials out of Twister on TNT-HD for archieving and Womble screws up the capture, sync and otherwise.

Forget it - go buy Womble to your hearts content. When you find a player in a year or 2 that will not work with Womble - when you find out that things are out of sync - when you find out that Womble didn't save a 2 hour file like you thought, just remember, someone tried to help you out.

And its very simple the reason i bring up a bunch of FREE TOOLS. YOU COULD CHECK THE WOMBLE OUTPUT and see if it had errors or not.

But, you only read what you want - and do what you want.

Have a wonderful evening in fantasy land where everything is perfect.

timecop

03-22-06, 02:15 AM

But it doesn't.
I've processed hours and hours of MPEG2 content in it, both SD and HD. With zero issues with sync or errors or what have you. And I have yet to find a player which doesn't play .ts properly, I mean, I probably could, but I would have to go out of my way to do it, and as long as it plays in media player classic / vlc / graphedit(?) then why would I care? And everything in my fantasy IS perfect, what are you talking about? :)

Willie

03-22-06, 12:54 PM

abcosta

03-22-06, 02:56 PM

that would be the first post of this thread, d'oh.

why answer at all if you have a negative comment [d'oh] :p ...not you first negative comment either!! Be peaceful!!!

Ersan

03-22-06, 08:38 PM

Seperate thread, sorry.

bhansen

03-22-06, 11:43 PM

Paul Chiu

03-23-06, 09:12 AM

Yesterday around 4pm EST after the stock market had closed, my CNBC screen froze. It remained that way until nearly 545pm as software was loaded onto my 3250HD cable box. After which Passport 3.3 Build 029 was in effect.

For home HD recorders out there, this latest build provides the following results.

BAD
1. Your DVI is no longer operational. You'll see a white line on the top right of your HDTV and the video image goes in and out.

GOOD
1. Your JVC HM-DH40000U D-VHS recorder is now back from the dead as this build allows for HD (whatever format) recording once again!

BAD
2. Yes to the HD recording but at the price of macro blocking with pixelization in the recorded HD video from time to time. The audio is also jumbled during the blocking so I suspect it't the 1394 data packet. I hope this will be fixed! John, Paul, ideas?

GOOD
2. The HD recording is now for EVERY HD channel!

BAD
3. Without the DVI, good luck on gettting 1920x1080 set on your 1920x1080 LCD or projector.

GOOD
3. There is a work around for the above, write me.

So far, this is what I have observed for this latest 029 build of passport 3.3

Paul
paulchiu_28@yahoo.com
chiumeister@gmail.com

bhansen

03-23-06, 07:59 PM

i am having the same exact problems please help me out
How did you resolve issue

timecop

03-24-06, 05:50 AM

3. There is a work around for the above, write me.

If you have a workaround, why not post it here, or in a relevant thread, instead of just telling people to "write you"?

Paul Chiu

03-24-06, 06:49 AM

If you have a workaround, why not post it here, or in a relevant thread, instead of just telling people to "write you"?

It's not a canned work around for all. I need to know what DVI devices you may have and then find ways to "pin" your DVI based panel to the 1920x1080 or 1280x720 setting.

Paul

wilkcards

03-24-06, 11:42 PM

Yo guys, I was wondering if someone could help me. I got the DCT-3412 today, and I'm trying to rip the transport stream. I have installed the drivers, and restarted but the device isn't recognized.
I checked "Tuner AV/C Device" in the device manager and it gave me this message:
"Windows cannot start this hardware device because its configuration information (in the registry) is incomplete or damaged. (Code 19)"

Any ideas?

vasilemj

03-25-06, 02:08 AM

Hello all,

This is my first post. I tried to include links, but the forums would not let me.

I have just started trying to get Firewire to work from my (Motorola DCT3412 I) and have had nothing but issues. I have Comcast as my cable company, and they directed me to this forum to be able to access this device. They also tole me that the 3412 and the 6412 use the same firmware.

I have followed the instructions (Green Button Community MSG 104152), followed by the multitude of instructions for fixing the SP2 issue with 1394. It does not make a difference if I use the SP1 files or install the MS patch (both from AVS Forums MSG 5315313)

All roads lead to windows reporting:

Windows cannot start this hardware device because its configuration information (in the registry) is incomplete or damaged. (Code 19)

Does anyone have any clues?

I have a VIA® 6307 IEEE 1394 controller. All patches for XP are installed. All known driver are the latest and ?greatest?.

Thank you in advance for any assistance.

I have a dead 1394 card with VIA 6306 controller on it which just decided to stop working for no reason. Maybe thats a hint.

i am having the exact same issue with the same exact hardware
west chicago comcast

The problems you are experiencing may not be the Motorola cable box but rather your Firewire controller card. There appears to be an issue with firewire cards that have the VIA chipset running on WinXP. Take a look at the following link and poke around the forum and you'll see what I mean.

http://forums.viaarena.com/categories.aspx?catid=16

I'm not sure if it relates to your exact card but it could be related.

wilkcards

03-25-06, 04:37 AM

Thanks for the help, but I actually finally got it to work. After much looking I found compatable drivers for the 3412. It didn't say it was, but I tried it and it worked. Here's the link to the step by step for you dct3412 users, or those who couldn't get the drivers in this thread to work:

http://htpcnews.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10499

BrokenVisage

03-25-06, 07:28 PM

slim79

03-25-06, 07:49 PM

YES! Finally got it to work on my FireWire800 port after a few driver substitutions. I've only been messing around with it for a little bit, but the HD looks awesome and I'm getting DD5.1 no problem. My STB is a 6412 Phase III DVR box with 12.18 firmware and my provider is Comcast. I know it says no playback questions but I'm just wondering if the output file is really .mpeg or something different because I can't open it in VirtualDub. Do I need to convert the file more? They play fine in Windows Media Player, but why not V-Dub? (In da house! :D ) Any suggestions? Thanks for all the posts and this thread, yay Internet!

the actual format is mpeg2ts it is not a standard mpeg and requires an mpeg2 demuxer as well as mpeg2 video decoder and digital audio decoder to play. I use HDTVtoMPEG2 to convert to mpeg I can then edit and burn. If one player is working and the other not they must be using different decoders or it is not demuxing.

BrokenVisage

03-25-06, 08:12 PM

the actual format is mpeg2ts it is not a standard mpeg and requires an mpeg2 demuxer as well as mpeg2 video decoder and digital audio decoder to play. I use HDTVtoMPEG2 to convert to mpeg I can then edit and burn. If one player is working and the other not they must be using different decoders or it is not demuxing.
Well I've tried HDTVtoMPEG2 and initially it doesn't recognize the files as TS, so I have to say all files for them to populate. It seems to convert fine but when I check the file it's just a 2k .mpg that won't open. Do you think the root of the problem might with how I capture it?

slim79

03-25-06, 08:26 PM

Well I've tried HDTVtoMPEG2 and initially it doesn't recognize the files as TS, so I have to say all files for them to populate. It seems to convert fine but when I check the file it's just a 2k .mpg that won't open. Do you think the root of the problem might with how I capture it?

change the file extension to .ts and it should open in HDTVtoMPEG or just drag and drop files with .mpg in there and it should work. I'm not sure this is your real problem though. if the files play fine in their original format I wouldn't think it is a problem with the capture. what version of HDTVtoMPEG2 are you using I know I couldn't get it to work in a prior version.

BrokenVisage

03-25-06, 10:06 PM

change the file extension to .ts and it should open in HDTVtoMPEG or just drag and drop files with .mpg in there and it should work. I'm not sure this is your real problem though. if the files play fine in their original format I wouldn't think it is a problem with the capture. what version of HDTVtoMPEG2 are you using I know I couldn't get it to work in a prior version.
Well I think I got it working now. I did have an old version of HDTVtoMPEG2, so I got the newest version but that was saying each file had an invalid extension and wouldn't open them, even the ones I renamed with a .ts extension. So I got a little older version and that DID work! Converted a 1 minute HD clip in 2 minutes and I was able to open it in VirtualDub with MPEG-2 support :) So all is well now, thank you for the support!

slim79

03-25-06, 10:23 PM

So all is well now, thank you for the support!

your welcome

bhansen

03-26-06, 12:05 AM

Connected moto 6412 to laptop via 6 wire to 4 wire firewire cable
as stated earlier I am in west chicago comcast
I can record ABC, NBC, FOX, PBS, CBS, WGN, and INHD2
I cannot record ESPNHD, INHD, TNTHD, DiscoverHD, HBOHD, SHOHD, STARZHD, ComcastHD
Also i think my area switched over to what I understand as ADS, the acronym for analog-digital simulcasting.
The problem is I cannot record any SD channels or digital channels such as TBS, FX, and standard definition movie channels like HBO2, and HBOWEST.
Do these now digitally broadcasted analog stations carry the same protection as the HI-DEF affiliates.
Also why am I able to record INHD2 but not INHD??? strange!

slim79

03-26-06, 03:45 PM

BrokenVisage

03-27-06, 11:06 AM

Hey Slim (or whoever else can help), I'm having an issue opening any .wav I rip in SoundTrax from something I record off of my Comcast box. Basically, I use HDTVtoMPEG2 to convert the movie so I can open it in VirtualDub, I use V-Dub to save the sound was a .wav file and it plays fine in Media Player and VLC, but when I go to edit it in SoundTrax or something else it has problems opening it. Do I need to convert the .wav itself to get it more pure or is it a codec issue you think? Or can you recommend some good editing software, regardless of price. Thanks dood.

slim79

03-27-06, 01:56 PM

Bob14567

03-27-06, 07:19 PM

I'm about to give the firewire recording a shot. My cable company seems to believe that the Motorola DCT6200 has no firewire ports (even though they are plain as day on the back of the box) and if it does, they are disabled. This doesn't sound right to me, so I'm going to try it anyway. The reason I called them was to find out what kind of cable to use (4 pin, 6 pin, etc.). This is my first foray into this, or even using firewire. Can someone tell me what cable I need?

Also, are there any issues with this box or any info that would be helpful? Is there a certain firmware revision necessary, and if so, how do I determine which version my box has?

Thanks,
Bob

slim79

03-27-06, 11:44 PM

wkc

03-28-06, 01:19 AM

I just want to say thank you to everyone before me figuring this out. I've tried and tried everything that was mentioned in the very first post and even the XP SP2 solution and I still couldn't get my firewire driver working. I then read one post at a time in this thread and finally found the answer. Hope someone can update the first post to include this fix as well.

The guy who found the solution posted here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7371701&&#post7371701

It then links to the actual driver that works for my system:

http://htpcnews.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10499

Bob14567

03-28-06, 09:30 AM

refer to the first page for details on recording firewirezip readme has some info on 6200... the 6200 has 2 6 pin ports your computer may have a small 4 pin or the same 6 pin

Thanks, Slim!

bhansen

03-28-06, 03:17 PM

Slim, do not know why I did not check before, but I tuned to ESPN's standard definiton channel and then went to the diagnosis page on my box by powering it down and then pushing select. Believe it or not in my area (west chicago) 5c implementation has been enabled for the A-DS channels. Unbelievable, this sucks.

It would be nice for a software package to work with 5c afterall the channels are not blocked from what I understand they are just encrypted. (0=record always) (1=record once) (2=never record). Such software that works with 5c would be legal, but where is it at?

chuckvb

03-28-06, 05:12 PM

I've got a SA3250 with SARA software feeding my HTPC with MCE via FW. The problem I have (and I once before saw it listed in here but didn't find an answer) is that sometimes I don't get a recording of a clear HD channel. (Heck more often than not I do't get the FW HD version) I think this is due to the cable box having previously been on a 5C channel and somehow that information does not get changed when MCE changes to an unprotected channel. I think this is why I get unreliable FW recordings. What advice can the group offer? Can I make some changes or should I get a different set top box from Cox?

mprover

03-28-06, 05:14 PM

is there a way to transfer files recorded from the DCT6412 itself to a PC?

timecop

03-28-06, 06:18 PM

If they're not 5C, by playing them back and dubbing to PC over firewire in real-time.
No, there's no way to do it by just "copying a file".

chuckvb

03-29-06, 10:23 AM

Cucuy

03-29-06, 01:43 PM

is there a way to transfer files recorded from the DCT6412 itself to a PC?

:D

dc10forlife

03-29-06, 04:55 PM

Anyone?

I have the same problem. Before any recording, I unplug the SA3250 box to reboot it. I then turn the channel directly to the station I want to record. This solves the problem.

Paul Chiu

03-29-06, 05:01 PM

I have the same problem. Before any recording, I unplug the SA3250 box to reboot it. I then turn the channel directly to the station I want to record. This solves the problem.

Are you using windows or Mac? What software?
Cox or TWC?
Cable box software version?

Thanks

Paul
Forest Hills, NY

vasilemj

03-30-06, 12:12 AM

I recorded CSI: NY this evening to my laptop using CapDVHS and had the program call the file "CSI: NY". However, I have come to realize that Windows does not like file names with unauthorized characters (such as the colon in my file name). Now, I've got a file that shows a size of 0 KB in Explorer but I know it's really about 7.7 GB because my hard drive space has been reduced by about this amount.

Does anyone have any idea what I can do to recover this file? I tried renaming but this hasn't seemed to work. I know the data is there....just can't get any app to recognize it.

Thanks,
Mark V.

timecop

03-30-06, 12:59 AM

check in %TEMP% or search *.* on the drive you think its on, and sort by filesize.
but i doubt the file (or data) is actually there.

I mean if CreateFile fails, and the coder is dumb enough to keep reusing that failed open handle, the data doesnt get written anywhere.

vasilemj

03-30-06, 01:18 AM

That's what I was afraid of. I know there is nearly 8 GB of data there because my available space on the drive went down by that amount, I just can't access it. Looks like I'm just SOL unfortunately for tonight's episode.

HDTVFanAtic

03-30-06, 01:43 AM

as a last resort, you could try a chkdsk from a command prompt and see if it finds the file an would save it, but odds are it will not be 100% usable anyway.

vasilemj

03-30-06, 11:31 AM

Thanks for the advice but I have deleted the 0KB file and, just as I suspected, my hard drive space magically increased by 8GB.

I'm surprised the software doesn't warn the user of improper filenames

chuckvb

03-30-06, 11:48 AM

I'm using MCE, my provider is COX and my cable box is SARA 1.56.4.1.

bhansen

03-31-06, 02:23 AM

Please direct me to a forum that can answer this question if this forum is not meant for it.
Playback of video is supperb on my laptop it is a vaio model number vgn-fs630/w
however after I transfer the file to my desktop pc via 6' firewire cable, I noticed the video is choppy. Both pc's have similar hardware with respect to CPU and memory as well as hard drive space, although I doubt that is the problem. I actually opened the task manager and clicked on the performance tab while the video was playing on each machine. To my surprise on the laptop the CPU usage history rarely went above 50%, but on the desktop it was topped out at 100%. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am desperate beacuse I would rather save the files on the desktop rather tha the laptop. Please help!
Again the laptop is a sony vaio model numer vgn-fs630/w
The desktop has asus motherboard model number p4pe with 1.7ghz p4 and 512mb of ram. The video card is 128mb radeon 9000
Anyone with suggestions or similar problems please respond. Thankyou

timecop

03-31-06, 03:59 AM

I would check "HTPC" forum, and sections related to PLAYING content.
This one, as you would guess, is for "RECORDING".

From the information you've given though, I'd say ATI is to blame, how can you possibly expect quality HD decoding on a radeon 9000? Isn't that like 3-4 years old tech?
Please upgrade to NVidia 6600 or higher for proper HD playback. Also, you can rule out the "transfer of video over 6' fw cable" as the cause, as it would have very little to do with anything.

spongyfungy

03-31-06, 04:57 AM

I have a weird story :

I have the 6412 connected via Firewire and composite (to view) to my PC. I spilled some chicken soup on the STB and I hear the computer make that noise when you pull out a USB device so I start to get worried. The motorola tuner AV/C device is gone from the device manager but the video from the composite is showing a picture. The picture has black static like streaks but I don't know if it was the movie or the soup.

The movie, as I later found out was Stir of Echoes. So anyways, I restart the computer and the tuner shows up in the device manager. I open up VLC and select the tuner. and it starts to play in HD the movie.

TNT-HD for me has 5c implementation. And it worked for a few minutes before it stopped showing it.

Hypothetically, let's say bogus info was sent to the 6412 that had 5c=0 to all the channels. would that be possible?

chuckvb

03-31-06, 09:53 AM

Ah you've discovered the secret Chicken Soup hack.

Actual I think it's normal that you get a few bits of the restricted channel if you just came from an unencripted one. It takes a few seconds to update the channel status. I think that's why I sometimes don't get my unencripted recordings, as the last channel was encripted.

weldon

03-31-06, 10:53 AM

Playback of video is supperb on my laptop it is a vaio model number vgn-fs630/w however after I transfer the file to my desktop pc via 6' firewire cable, I noticed the video is choppy.
The Pentium M in your laptop is quite a bit faster than the P4 in your desktop, even though they run at the same clock speed. I have the same desktop motherboard (P4PE) with a 2.4GHz P4 (533MHz bus) and I have a hard time with HDTV at times. I suspect that your desktop is doing software decoding of the MPEG stream which is taxing your CPU. The RADEON 9000 is capable of hardware MPEG decoding so perhaps you need to update your drivers, or use a different player that will use the right codec to enable the hardware acceleration. I'm not clear on the details for that card, so you'll have to look elsewhere for specific instructions.

Alternatively, you could update your graphics card to something like a 6600GT which features WMV-HD h/w acceleration in addition to MPEG.

tall1

03-31-06, 03:54 PM

bhansen

03-31-06, 05:16 PM

So you do no think it is the processor?

bhansen

03-31-06, 05:21 PM

thanks for the info Weldon. Please get back to me about the software decoding of the mpg stream or perhaps a codec that will work better with a different player. Your help is appreciated. By the way I have the most updated driver from ati.

Paul Chiu

04-02-06, 11:49 AM

INFORMATION RELATING TO PASSPORT 3.3 BUILD 029 FOR TWC NYC CUSTOMERS
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

EQUIPMENT
**********

SA 3250HD box
JVC HM-DH40000U D-VHS Recorder
HDTV with DVI
HDTV with Component Video Inputs
Digital DVI Switch Box

BUILD 029
**********

1. Latest Passport allows for firewire connection to D-VHS recorder and the HD recording of all HD and non HD channels in full resolution. Currently, the recording is full of video and audio artifacts; sometimes within seconds and other times minutes. I have yet to record a distortion free hour of HD material from any of the HD TWC channels.

2. The firewire output from the TWC 3250HD cable box under build 029 does not transmit data to a Windows XP SP2 based computer. CAPDVHS will run but record bothing under build 029.

3. DVI no longer works under build 029. Running diagnostics within the 3250HD box shows that DVI/HDMI is disabled and blocked under build 029. This can be a big problem since the booming (whites get too bright; ice hockey rinks, basketball courts, etc) under component video inputs can be tough with the 3250HD over the wider dynamic range output of the DVI/HDMI inputs.

4. The audio "popping" channel hooping between HD and analog channels is gone with build 029.

HD Recording
************

1. Build 029 does not allow Windows XP based firwire recording

2. Recording made with D-VHS recorder can be uplinked into Windows PC using CAPDVHS and stored onto hard drive. Then you can DIVx or use other forms of compression to get 2 hours of HD onto a standard sized 4.7GB DVD.

3. I have tried firewire 1 from 3250HD to D-VHS and D-VHS firewire out to Windows PC which does not work

4. Firewire 1 of 3250HD box to D-VHS works while firewire 2 of 3250HD to Windows PC does not. The same results if I were to switch firewire connects.

These are my findings and I have asked TWC in NYC to fix the DVI operations malfunction.
No solution have been posted.

Paul Chiu
Forest Hills, NY

paulchiu_28@yahoo.com

Wendell R. Breland

04-02-06, 12:25 PM

2. The firewire output from the TWC 3250HD cable box under build 029 does not transmit data to a Windows XP SP2 based computer. CAPDVHS will run but record bothing under build 029.Paul,

I was under the impression that Firewire recording using Windows XP with SP2 was broken and the recommendation was to use SP1.

Paul Chiu

04-02-06, 01:02 PM

Paul,

I was under the impression that Firewire recording using Windows XP with SP2 was broken and the recommendation was to use SP1.

Wendell,

Thanks for that heads up.

Going from SP2 back to SP1 may be a difficult undertaking. I wonder if there is some patch that fixes the firewire end under SP2 if that is the culprit.

Paul

pipdipchip

04-03-06, 10:25 AM

Anyone get this working on Windows Vista? I can't seem to install it. I've tried just about everything I can think of.

JDJD

04-03-06, 01:08 PM

slim79

04-03-06, 01:42 PM

I have a Motorola 6412 Phase 3 recently upgraded from a Phase 1 (because it died). I'm running into this problem that when I capture the stream (.ts) to my PC via firewire, the PVR would lock up afterwards. It would no longer allow me to fast forward/rewind at the normal rate, which makes it more diffcult to stream other shows. I use the methods on this board to do the streaming (CapDVHS, drivers, etc). The only way I could fix this thus far is to reboot the PVR.

I read a few other people experiencing this problem but has there been a fix? I never had this problem before with the old PVR and firmware. :confused:

apparently this is a known issue with the phase III...some info in the following link:

http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/DCT6412_Passport.html

Look under the Known Problems Section

Cucuy

04-03-06, 02:10 PM

Anyone get this working on Windows Vista? I can't seem to install it. I've tried just about everything I can think of.

Vista isn't even out yet. What are you talking about?

JDJD

04-03-06, 09:25 PM

apparently this is a known issue with the phase III...some info in the following link:

Look under the Known Problems Section

Thanks but that says what I basically posted. I guess there's no fix for this yet. Really annoying...

spongyfungy

04-04-06, 04:00 AM

Are you sure TNTHD is 5C? It isn't in the twin cities comcast area but all the premium movie channels are 5c. Check the diagnostic menu d06 to see if CCI=0 for TNTHD. If cci=0, you can record, if CCI=2, then you will not be able to record. If you still can record when CCI=2, was it Campbell's or Lipton chicken soup? ;)

CCI=1 (isn't it D11?)

homemade chicken soup.

for some reason I could also see the TVGOS stuff through VLC. Bah. I may have selected my capture card instead of motorola tuner. who knows, it was 3 in the morning but I could have sworn I selected the tuner because the ratio was 16:9 and not the one with letterbox.

Anyways, what I want to know is since it's realtime recording, will fast forward just mess up the stream? I'm getting terrible sync errors trying to archive some HD content.

teague

04-06-06, 11:28 PM

I have a Motorola 6412 Phase 3 recently upgraded from a Phase 1 (because it died). I'm running into this problem that when I capture the stream (.ts) to my PC via firewire, the PVR would lock up afterwards. It would no longer allow me to fast forward/rewind at the normal rate, which makes it more diffcult to stream other shows. I use the methods on this board to do the streaming (CapDVHS, drivers, etc). The only way I could fix this thus far is to reboot the PVR.

I read a few other people experiencing this problem but has there been a fix? I never had this problem before with the old PVR and firmware. :confused:

I have a 6416 phase 3 (160GB), and it, and my old 6412 had this problem. After most, but not all, captures, the FF/RW functions didn't work until you rebooted the box. A day or so ago we got the 12.31 firmware update, but I've heard that didn't help. I'll try mine this weekend, but it doesn't look like we have a fix yet.

pipdipchip

04-07-06, 06:32 AM

Vista isn't even out yet. What are you talking about?

So let's wait until the day it's released to try installing it on there.

I'm a beta tester and thought I'd try to install it but I didn't have any luck. Just wondering if anyone else has tried.

rhenry74

04-07-06, 11:20 AM

I have a 6416 phase 3 (160GB), and it, and my old 6412 had this problem. After most, but not all, captures, the FF/RW functions didn't work until you rebooted the box. A day or so ago we got the 12.31 firmware update, but I've heard that didn't help. I'll try mine this weekend, but it doesn't look like we have a fix yet.

In my obvervation, something is not quite right about the "handshake" between the driver and the cable box once the cable box acknowleges that the driver is there and the driver has finished consuming data from the cable box. Who would be more likely to correct the problem, the developer of the cable box firmware or the developer of the driver? It's probably no fault of either one, given the "on-off-on-again" nature of how we are using CapVHS. Personaly, given the success I'm having, I don't want anyone messing with the firmware in my cable box :-)

If I'm copying a bunch of stuff down I usually change the name of what I'm copying to "Junk" while I'm jockeying around with the FF and RW. Enableing capture with CapVHS frees-up the FW and RW. When I'm where I want to be I change the name and do the capture. When all is complete I delete Junk.ts. You can also use VLC to free up FF and RW.

ishcor2000

04-11-06, 12:07 AM

This is a great thread with great info, but i'm running into a problem I havn't been able to find a solution for and havn't seen anyone else (at least post) this problem.

Whenever I try to record or even view HD from my Motorola 6200 (firmware 7.15) to my SYBA PCI to Firewire 1394a 3+1 in my Athlon XP 2000 it only lets me record for about a minute or 2 before the CPU usage shoots through the roof. I can go back and view the short recordings, so I know the 2 are communicating.
I've used VLC media player, capdvhs, and graphedit. I used graphedit and inserted filters to try recording HD, but still am only able to for a few minutes. After a few minutes I have to reboot to try viewing/recording HD again.

I've tried swapping out my PCI firewire card into my Athlon 3700 to see if my athlon 2000 didn't have the horsepower, but the 3700 CPU shot through the roof too.

I'm wondering if anyone else had a similar problem like this.

The 3 long shot ideas I can think of are:
1) reformat another drive to 64k clusters
2) I'm running xp SP2 and i've read that sp2 messed up the firewire drivers so I can try using the SP1 drivers.
3) maybe Syba makes a bad firewire card?

Thanks for any thoughts

rhenry74

04-11-06, 09:50 AM

Whenever I try to record or even view HD from my Motorola 6200 (firmware 7.15) to my SYBA PCI to Firewire 1394a 3+1 in my Athlon XP 2000 it only lets me record for about a minute or 2 before the CPU usage shoots through the roof.

If you watch the Processes tab on the Windows Task Manager, what process consumes the CPU?

What are the Advanced Properties for the folder you are capturing to?

ishcor2000

04-11-06, 11:32 AM

Thanks for the response...Whatever process i'm running is the one that eventually reaches 90-100% cpu. If i'm running VLC, then that reaches 100 or if I'm using graphedit to record then it reaches 100%. I eventually have to kill the process and reboot the system and try again.

For the advanced attributes under folder properties for the folder I have the default selected: "for fast searching, allow indexing service to index file" | all the other 3 check fields are unchecked.

Jojorge

04-11-06, 01:51 PM

i have dct3412 i i need some help with that and i need some help, i tried with the driver for DCT 6412 but it doesn´t work. what can i do

esko

04-11-06, 06:34 PM

I wish to copy my DVR recordings from Motorola 6412 to my Toshiba laptop through firewire. I have XP SP2

I downloaded the drivers for Motorola but it doesn't seem to allow me to get to the stored recordings.

Any thoughts?

it looks like I am only capturing current data

twitchee3

04-11-06, 06:42 PM

Content could be 5c protected.

epsilon

04-11-06, 07:56 PM

The only way to "get to the stored recordings" is to play them back on the DVR and capture them just as you do the "current (live) data".

coyoteaz

04-12-06, 02:57 PM

Word of caution for you SA3250HD users: Cox Phoenix just pushed out new firmware on Tuesday morning (SARA 1.58.7.1 dated 6/8/05). This firmware has completely disabled PC firewire recording, on both the original meidvhs and timmmoore's driver sets. There is no difference between copy-freely and copy-once channels: nothing shows up in any recording app or VLC for any channel. I suppose the rest of providers in the country will be pushing out this new firmware at some point, too.

Hardcore Legend

04-12-06, 05:20 PM

This is a great thread, and was really helpful the first time I tried doing this.

However, I've run into a huge problem.

The first time I went through all the steps of setting this up, it worked great. I was able to capture a few minutes of video/audio but had to put everything away because we were expecting family for the next few days.

Anyways, about 4 days pass and I go to use the device again and nothing works. My PC no longer recognizes ANY connection from my DVR to my PC.

I have a Motorola DCT6412 III with Firmware 12. My PC is a Sony Vaio running Windows XP SP2 Home Edition.

I've tried various fixes, such are rolling back the drivers to those of SP1. I even tried uninstalling the Firewire Controller from the Device Manager, rebooting and reinstalling. None of that is helping.

I know the cable works, I know the port on my PC works, and I'm 95% sure the firewire port on the back of the Motorola still works. I can't be certain, however in the Status page, it says that the port is still active on the back of the DVR.

In my Registry, there are two version of the Motorola box. I tried deleting those entries in hopes that maybe windows would try to regrab the box as 'New Hardware" but no luck.

The only thing I can think of is since the first time I used it, I purchased the MLB Extra Innings package, and Comcast (my provider) may have put out a new firmware that disabled the port. That said, the setup still says it is active though.

Any help would be appreciated on this one. If there is any more info you need, let me know.

EDIT: Nevermind. I turned the box off and pulled the power from the wall for a minute. This fixed the problem.

twitchee3

04-12-06, 05:28 PM

This is a great thread, and was really helpful the first time I tried doing this.

However, I've run into a huge problem.

The first time I went through all the steps of setting this up, it worked great. I was able to capture a few minutes of video/audio but had to put everything away because we were expecting family for the next few days.

Anyways, about 4 days pass and I go to use the device again and nothing works. My PC no longer recognizes ANY connection from my DVR to my PC.

I have a Motorola DCT6412 III with Firmware 12. My PC is a Sony Vaio running Windows XP SP2 Home Edition.

I've tried various fixes, such are rolling back the drivers to those of SP1. I even tried uninstalling the Firewire Controller from the Device Manager, rebooting and reinstalling. None of that is helping.

I know the cable works, I know the port on my PC works, and I'm 95% sure the firewire port on the back of the Motorola still works. I can't be certain, however in the Status page, it says that the port is still active on the back of the DVR.

In my Registry, there are two version of the Motorola box. I tried deleting those entries in hopes that maybe windows would try to regrab the box as 'New Hardware" but no luck.

The only thing I can think of is since the first time I used it, I purchased the MLB Extra Innings package, and Comcast (my provider) may have put out a new firmware that disabled the port. That said, the setup still says it is active though.

Any help would be appreciated on this one. If there is any more info you need, let me know.
It's quite possible that Comcast enacted 5c protection to block video output to any non 5c enabled device. Do you have any 5c enabled device such as a DVHS deck or firewire enabled TV to test it out on and see if the STB's firewire port is in fact active? If so i would advise trying that and seeing if you get an A/V feed.

Hardcore Legend

04-12-06, 05:32 PM

See post above.

I appreciate the help though.

It was just a case where the DVR doesn't really turn itself off, it goes into hybernation, so I unplugged it from the wall and hooked it back up. Worked like a charm.

jose8one

04-12-06, 08:07 PM

i need a bit of help. I've been looking around and havent been able to find a post on how to remove all of the drivers and such that i installed for recording through firewire. Can someone let me know how to do this or point me in the right direction?
thanks in advance.
Here's more info:
I am still able to record off the 6412 phase III through DVHS. but i didnt install the drivers properly when Windows detected new hardware and now i want to do it properly because i want to use MCE to record if it's even possible. Also since i've been attempting to redo this whole process from the start, i no longer have to reboot the dvr to fix the fast forward and rewind issue.

Hardcore Legend

04-12-06, 09:00 PM

If you want different drivers, you can go to "Update Drivers", then "No, not this time" then "I will choose the driver to select" and then point it to the correct drivers. Ignore any warnings it gives you and go ahead and update.

With the motorola, you can find the drivers. I'd post the url, but my post count doesn't allow it.

I have a question for those 'in the know'. CapDVHS says that it is capturing the stream at 2.87 MBpS. When I generally do a wall-cable-PC capture using TV tuner card, it's at anywhere from 4 MBps to 8MBps, and I never burn a sports dvd with anything less than 6 MBpS stream.

So, is the 2.87 MBpS normal, and does it burn good DVDs or should I bump up the settings and if so, how?

rhenry74

04-13-06, 09:15 AM

brownmaxxx

04-13-06, 09:59 AM

Ok - time to ask for help. First off, thanks to everyone who has contributed here. I know I am late to the party but still happy to be here. :)

I just spent the last three days reading all 2000+ messages on this thread. I have done my homework as best as I can and I have only seen a couple other mentions of the problem I am having (and no solutions).

I've got BrightHouse cable in Orlando, FL. Just picked up an SA3250HD. Passport, btw. No issues installing drivers. No issues getting the box itself recognized in XP.

I get three different types of results when capturing:

1) Perfect captures. Only two channels give me this. ESPN-HD and UPN-HD. These (at least the ESPN that I just double-checked) report a bit rate of 38Mbps when capturing in CapDVHS. Sounded high to me, but whatever. It works.

2) Unplayable captures with no info reported by CapDVHS. This makes sense. These are all on the channels that are 5c=1 (HBO-HD, SHO-HD, INHD, etc.).

3) Captures that look like they are working but turn out to be garbled crap. This is on channels that are 5c=0 (locals, etc.). The only thing I can distinguish here is that on these channels, CapDVHS reports a bit rate of 80Mbps while it is capturing. When I play the resulting files, I see video that is 90% trash -- garbled, blocky, a lot of it is totally black or green with some moving blocks of video, occasional frames with partial picture, etc. The audio has similar problems -- it is mostly noise with occasional pops of real sound.

What is going on here? Anything I can do about it?

By the way, I see the exact same results consistently on the same channels regardless of which capture app I use (ie. same thing in DCTRecord). Also, I've tried the different generations of drivers (original meidvhs.inf, current firewire.zip, etc.) with consistently the same results.

I can add that I have tried both firewire ports on the 3250. Same results either way. I have also done this whole procedure in both regular XP Pro and in MCE on the same PC (dual-boot). Same results either way.

Also, when I just use VLC to view my HD channels on the PC, I still get the exact same results. Those 80Mbps channels view just as garbled with VLC as they capture. And likewise, the two channels I can capture ok also view perfectly in VLC.

The only thing I haven't tried yet that I might be able to without too much pain is to use another PC and see if the results are the same. But I'm betting they will be. Is there any thought that a more powerful system might be able to handle 80Mbps coming in through fw and capture it w/o garbling??? The PC I am using now is a P4 3.0GHz with HyperThreading / 1GB Dual-Channel DDR RAM.

Help! Thanks so much!

coyoteaz

04-13-06, 12:56 PM

brownmaxxx, I ran in to similar issues with my 3250 here in Phoenix on Cox (SARA). The 3250 seems to be very picky about when it will work right when connecting to a PC, and it always took me some magic combination of box reboots, PC reboots, unplugging and reconnecting the firewire cable, and virgin sacrifices to get a reliable recording. What generally worked best was the following procedure:
Unplug firewire cable
Unplug box power cable, count to 30, and plug it back in
Reboot PC while box is syncing
Plug in firewire cable once the box is ready to go
Install drivers
Unplug firewire cable
Reboot PC
Plug in firewire cable

Generally, this also involved a lot of swearing, and occasionally a beer or 2 to pass the time while waiting for the PC to reboot *again*. These issues persisted across multiple boxes and multiple Windows installs (and both SP1 and SP2), and I've heard similar tales of woe from other people with the 3250. It's a moot point now, however, as Cox pushed out new firmware this week that killed PC recording.

brownmaxxx

04-13-06, 01:49 PM

coyoteaz, when you had your issues with the 3250 did you see any behavior like I do (some HD channels recording ok but others garbled)? Or were you having an inability to record all the channels when it wasn't working? I am wondering whether the problem you had is the same as mine or if it had a completely different cause.

Is there any actual reason to think the 80Mbps bit rate I am seeing on the channels I can't record is bogus and it is due to something flakey in the setup (as opposed to that just *being* the bit rate)?

My initial line of thinking was that since I can get perfect captures on a couple channels, this more or less "proves" I have everything installed right. If so, I don't get why reinstalling drivers would change the behavior.

Anyway, another question: in your "procedure" above, were you also removing the hardware devices from Device Manager before you reboot the PC the first time? Otherwise, it would just detect the 3250 when you reconnect the firewire and it wouldn't be looking to reinstall the drivers. Thanks.

slim79

04-13-06, 02:04 PM

Is there any actual reason to think the 80Mbps bit rate I am seeing on the channels I can't record is bogus and it is due to something flakey in the setup (as opposed to that just *being* the bit rate)?

this 80Mbps can not be correct as a single 256QAM channel has a bandwidth of 43Mbps. however if the stream is reporting that it could create some issues I imagine but I had not problems. I noted at one point PBS-HD was reporting 80Mbps but I did not experience any problems capturing and the rate the video was playing at was more like 12Mbps. It now says PBS is about 11Mbps and based on the rate the video plays at I assume this to be correct. I beleive the change was made by the broadcaster but it could have something to do with the cable company also.

edojade

04-14-06, 11:01 AM

twitchee3

04-14-06, 01:43 PM

I want to take a show i recorded already off the hard drive in the receiver and transfer it to my computer.. I want the computer to recognize the hard drive so i can access it and transfer the show to my computer to burn it on a dvd.. someone please steer me in the right direction.. email me if possible if anyone has a solution.. I don't want to record something off the tv just transfer what i have already recorded on the unit itself.. thanks
Unfortunately you can't do this. You can't just connect your DVR hard drive to your computer and have the computer access it. The DVR is actually its own computer and has a completely different file system which is encrypted so that you can not gain access to it from any external source (perhaps besides units built by the service provider to do just this). You will have to transfer via firewire, as long as the cable company has not enforced 5c which will prohibit you from doing this. Other than that, the only way to get your recordings off the DVR would be to manually hook up a recording source to the A/V outputs of the box and actively capture it as you play back on the STB.

bob1459

04-14-06, 05:53 PM

Does anyone know if why when I play a recorded file, record it and then play it it will not show anything??

JDJD

04-14-06, 07:17 PM

Also since i've been attempting to redo this whole process from the start, i no longer have to reboot the dvr to fix the fast forward and rewind issue.

Can you explain what you did?
Did you test thoroughly that the problem indeed got fixed with new drivers, etc? I would like it very much if I can get rid of this annoying problem as well.

smodak

04-14-06, 08:07 PM

Does anyone know if why when I play a recorded file, record it and then play it it will not show anything??
Probably you are recording a "5c" protected channel. What channel are you recording? In my area almost all digital channels except the broadcast channels are "5c" protected.

bob1459

04-14-06, 09:08 PM

Probably you are recording a "5c" protected channel. What channel are you recording? In my area almost all digital channels except the broadcast channels are "5c" protected.
It is DHDTV from Comcast..I didn't really try any other station just the one. I hate having to record to DVD then rip it to computer..Such a waste a time.

PS How do I know if the programs are protected??? :eek: