I heard that 720p was better, because of the lack of 3:2 pulldown for 1080i.

Also, page 42 of the current manual includes 720p as a valid input. The manual is available on Panny's website also.
His is the previous model, and he was quoting the manual for that.

I wasn't trying to imply that 720p wasn't a valid input, only pointing out that most people on the forum seem to prefer 1080i. They are both valid inputs for the 50 series or later. (I guess I may have missed it, but I'd never seen a confirmation that 1080i actually lacks 3:2 pulldown, although I know it's been discussed.)

Of course, the best thing for anyone to do is try different settings and see which he/she likes better, assuming they can see any significant difference (many don't).

Thanks Bill & Macfan424,
I just looked at (Pg #45 on my owner manual) and it seems to confirm that it accepts the following:

Signal name H- Freq(lHz) V-Freq(lHz) COMPONENT HDMI
1 525 (480) /60i 15.73 59.94 ∗ ∗
2 525 (480) /60p 31.47 59.94 ∗ ∗
3 750 (720) /60p 45.00 59.94 ∗ ∗
4 1,125 (1,080) /60i 33.75 59.94 ∗ ∗

I was not aware that Panasonic plasmas might have a software update, but it makes sense. How does the new software get uploaded into the unit? Is this only for plasmas with SD cards?

Thanks for the help.

You download the firmware update that would pertain to the problem described on the firmware site. You would insert a SD reader/writer http://cgi.*********/Slim-USB-2-0-Memory-Card-Reader-4-mini-micro-SD-1GB-2GB_W0QQitemZ300056637734QQihZ020QQcategoryZ116238QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem?hash=item300056637734 Type in the well known online auction name and dot com in the blank area of the url.
Into your USB port with a blank SD card in it. Then you go to "my computer" and you will see the reader as a external hard drive. You send/drag the files to it. You then slip the card into the SD slot in the TV and follow the short directions on the screen. Each problem has it's own firmware update and has to be loaded separately. You can also call Panasonic at 1-888-777-7134 for a card already formatted that you use and send back to them for no fee.

You download the firmware update that would pertain to the problem described on the firmware site. You would insert a SD reader/writer http://cgi.*********/Slim-USB-2-0-Memory-Card-Reader-4-mini-micro-SD-1GB-2GB_W0QQitemZ300056637734QQihZ020QQcategoryZ116238QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem?hash=item300056637734 Type ********* in the blank area of the url.
Into your USB port with a blank SD card in it. Then you go to "my computer" and you will see the reader as a external hard drive. You send/drag the files to it. You then slip the card into the SD slot in the TV and follow the short directions on the screen. Each problem has it's own firmware update and has to be loaded separately. You can also call Panasonic at 1-888-777-7134 for a card already formatted that you use and send back to them for no fee.

I guess my dumb question is whether software updates exist for Panny plasmas that do not have SD cards? Of course I have no idea how the update would be applied without a USB port or SD slot, but maybe there is something I had not thought of.

I guess my dumb question is whether software updates exist for Panny plasmas that do not have SD cards? Of course I have no idea how the update would be applied without a USB port or SD slot, but maybe there is something I had not thought of.

The USB port would be on the back-side of your computer. The SD slot would be under the front "flip down panel" on the PX60's and in the back on most others labled "Service Only" slot. The card would be inserted with the lable facing you. The rest would be on-screen prompts telling you what to do next....very little other than pulling the power cord on the TV at the end of instillation.

If your TV is listed here: http://www.pasctraining.panasonic.com/SpecialApplications/ProductFirmwareDownloads/downloads1.asp

Then you have an update.

So my 2 year old took a crayon to the front glass on my TH-42PHD5UY and its' replacement will cost me more than the cost of a new plasma. It remains watch-able and while the crayon wiped off effectively, it took the anti reflective coating off the front glass.

Your ideas are welcome - anyone know where remaining stocks of 4 year old stock of front glass available at a steep discount?

So my 2 year old took a crayon to the front glass on my TH-42PHD5UY and its' replacement will cost me more than the cost of a new plasma. It remains watch-able and while the crayon wiped off effectively, it took the anti reflective coating off the front glass.

Your ideas are welcome - anyone know where remaining stocks of 4 year old stock of front glass available at a steep discount?

Yikes! as a owner of 2 plasmas and a 2 year old ;) that is my worst nightmare. How did you wipe of the crayon though, surely there must be a way to wipe it carefully (or is the coating that sensitive?). I would have taken an ice pack, put it on the crayon marks (making sure not to get them wet), then they might have come off with minimal (gentle) coaxing with a fingernail or something. Those are the instructions for removing crayon/gum from my hardwood floor at least. I do not allow crayons in my family and media rooms ... learned that the hard way, after the walls got all marked up!

Here's the temporary domain name:

http://c03.privatesystems.net/~bruzzi/forum/index.php


"bruzzi.ws" should be available in few days.

Any updates? I can't get to either

Any updates? I can't get to either

Sorry, I had to change the domain name:

www.bruzziforum.com


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I recently purchased the Panasonic 42" 600U. Can anyone tell me if this model has any sort of pixel shifting or "screen wipe" to help reduce burn-in? I haven't had any problems related to burn-in yet, but I'm also having a hard time finding any information regarding such anti-burn-in options in the manual or in the TV's menu. Thanks!

I recently purchased the Panasonic 42" 600U. Can anyone tell me if this model has any sort of pixel shifting or "screen wipe" to help reduce burn-in? I haven't had any problems related to burn-in yet, but I'm also having a hard time finding any information regarding such anti-burn-in options in the manual or in the TV's menu. Thanks!

Sorry but only the Panasonic Commercial Displays have those features.

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You will see what they call "clay-face". Panasonic has a firmware update that will change the internal settings and make it more easy to use the TV settings to take the CF out.
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TH-42PX600U
TH-50PX600U
TH-58PX600U
PX600_GenX_V1-46.exe (456KB)
DG-Board EEPROM GenX Firmware


Caution:
This firmware overwrites the EEPROM on the DG board and has no effect on the tuner 1.46 9/1/2006 Poor picture details
Faces appear as "Clay Faces"
Excessive brightness with no details in the black level
Download the file to your local drive then double-click to extract the zipped files - Select a formatted SD card as the destination. To update the firmware, follow the instruction in this
firmware installtion guide Download

I have had a Panasonic approved repair guy come outlook and he han't seen anything this bad before. He contacted Panasonic and sent them photos of the screen. They replied to him saying that it was 'within specification" and so there was no fix'.
I find this very strange as no one else seems to be having this problem so bad. I am extremely disappointed with this response from Panasonic, so much so that I would not recommend them at all. I even went to another store and put the same dvd(Snatch) in a Hitachi DVD player using a Scart connected to a sightly smaller Panasonic Plasma. The picture was no where near as bad as mine , in fact it was perfectly acceptable considering it was not through HDMI or upscaled. Sounds like Panasonic have decided " might be expensive to replace or fix, therefore give corporate Bulls***t".
I am now trying to get my plasma replaced or refunded and a preparing for a long battle.
It would be interesting to hear from anyone else who has similar problems.

DP

Hi guys,

Need some help with my TH-50PHD8UK. I just bought another component board for my panny, and I can't get video to it in slot 2. Here is how I have it configured:

Slot 1 - HDMI
Slot 2 - New TY-42TM6Z component board (no BNCs, just regular component inputs)
Slot 3 - Original BNC Component board that comes up the display
Slot 4 (fixed) - VGA

I tried out the new board in Slot 3, and it works fine. And the old composite board was working in Slot 2 with no problems.

I know I can only use HDMI in slot 1. Can I use my component board in slot 2?

Thanks in advance

It should work. Try the #1 :

http://www.bruzziforum.com/vbf/showthread.php?t=71

Hi all. Well, I think I have convinced myself to go the way of Plasma, after flaking between that and LCD, 720p and 1080p. I think Plasma will suit my needs better for now, and I don't really need 1080 at this point. I'm just looking for that last nudge to pull the trigger on a Panny 50PH9UK. Besides, it's just too hard to resist with the awsome prices right now. This will be a bedroom set, 9'-10' viewing distance. Most of my viewing will be evening/night. I have D*sh network and will be viewing pretty much on equal percentages, HD, SD and DVD. My concern is with burn-in and viewing 2:35:1 or any other scope ratio movies. If I understand correctly, phosphor aging is cummulative, right? Well, most of the movies I seem to watch fall within the 2:35:1 aspect ratio. Am I correct in thinking that the black bars displayed on the top and bottom of the picture will eventually(at some point) show signs of burn-in after many hours of use? BTW, I hate using zoom on scope movies. Any info or opinions on this matter will be greatly appreciated.

And a big thanks to everyone for the great forum and excellent info. Made my decision to purchase a Plasma so much easier and confusing :D

If I understand correctly, phosphor aging is cummulative, right? Well, most of the movies I seem to watch fall within the 2:35:1 aspect ratio. Am I correct in thinking that the black bars displayed on the top and bottom of the picture will eventually(at some point) show signs of burn-in after many hours of use?




The reverse...

You are simply saving the life of those pixels since they are not being lit compared to the rest. So if you watch 2.35:1 sources straight over and over again, eventually those pixels will be brighter that the ones in the center of the picture.

Here's an exaggerated example:

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/4974/th42px500upg38hm.jpg


Not an issue if you watch mixed content with some full screen material.
But, just in case you start getting the bars brighter than the rest, you can use the "Negative Function" and let it play for several minutes/necessary to even out the picture.

The reverse...

You are simply saving the life of those pixels since they are not being lit compared to the rest. So if you watch 2.35:1 sources straight over and over again, eventually those pixels will be brighter that the ones in the center of the picture.

Here's an exaggerated example:

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/4974/th42px500upg38hm.jpg


Not an issue if you watch mixed content with some full screen material.
But, just in case you start getting the bars brighter than the rest, you can use the "Negative Function" and let it play for several minutes/necessary to even out the picture.

BruZZi,
Thanks for the explanation and the picture, great way to get your point across. Cudos to you!

The reverse...

You are simply saving the life of those pixels since they are not being lit compared to the rest. So if you watch 2.35:1 sources straight over and over again, eventually those pixels will be brighter that the ones in the center of the picture.

Here's an exaggerated example:

http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/4974/th42px500upg38hm.jpg


Not an issue if you watch mixed content with some full screen material.
But, just in case you start getting the bars brighter than the rest, you can use the "Negative Function" and let it play for several minutes/necessary to even out the picture.
Bruzzi.....What is "Negative Function"??

BruZZi,
Thanks for the explanation and the picture, great way to get your point across. Cudos to you!

You're Welcome. :)

Bruzzi.....What is "Negative Function"??
The "Negative Function" is one of options on the Screensaver Menu to prevent Image Retention / Burn-In.

As the name says, it'll show a negative image (black and white) of the picture displayed.

There's also a White Bar Scroll (a white bar will continue to scroll from left to right)
and Wobbling (Shift the image a dot level Up/Down/Left/Right

I posted this in the 9UK owner's thread, but then realized it might be better to post it here.

I noticed that on our 50PH9UK, pressing input 2 on the remote toggles between input 2A (composite) and input 2B (svideo). Does this mean that both inputs are now usable? Our 5th generation Panny did not toggle between the the two inputs, and only one or the other could be used, with svideo having priority.

This 2A/2B feature messes up our universal remote programming. If if input 2 is requested by two consecutive macros (e.g. "Watch VCR" and then "Watch CATV"), then the plasma switches from A to B (or vice-versa). It appears that if I switch to the PC input first and then back to input 2, the previous selection is preserved.

Anyone else run into this issue?

-Steve

I posted this in the 9UK owner's thread, but then realized it might be better to post it here.

I noticed that on our 50PH9UK, pressing input 2 on the remote toggles between input 2A (composite) and input 2B (svideo). Does this mean that both inputs are now usable?


Yup. That's why the new TY-FB9BD S-Video & Composite Board is called "Dual Terminal Board" as you can use both inputs.

Yup. That's why the new TY-FB9BD S-Video & Composite Board is called "Dual Terminal Board" as you can use both inputs.

That's good news. Thanks BruZZi.:) I was going to test it, but I don't currently have an svideo cable and didn't want to spring for one if it couldn't be used.

That's good news. Thanks BruZZi.:) I was going to test it, but I don't currently have an svideo cable and didn't want to spring for one if it couldn't be used.

You're Welcome. :)

This 2A/2B feature messes up our universal remote programming. If if input 2 is requested by two consecutive macros (e.g. "Watch VCR" and then "Watch CATV"), then the plasma switches from A to B (or vice-versa). It appears that if I switch to the PC input first and then back to input 2, the previous selection is preserved.

I don't have a "9UK" Model so I can't help you with that. Try Remote Central as you might find there discrete codes for the " 2A" and "2B" inputs.

google monoprice and check out their stuff

the cables are very inexpensive and so far have worked out quite well for me. For the price it's definitely worth trying....

I posted this in the 9UK owner's thread, but then realized it might be better to post it here.

I noticed that on our 50PH9UK, pressing input 2 on the remote toggles between input 2A (composite) and input 2B (svideo). Does this mean that both inputs are now usable? Our 5th generation Panny did not toggle between the the two inputs, and only one or the other could be used, with svideo having priority.

This 2A/2B feature messes up our universal remote programming. If if input 2 is requested by two consecutive macros (e.g. "Watch VCR" and then "Watch CATV"), then the plasma switches from A to B (or vice-versa). It appears that if I switch to the PC input first and then back to input 2, the previous selection is preserved.

Anyone else run into this issue?

-Steve

I just realized that I misread your question and so I have edited my reply to suggest that you do as Bruzzi suggested and check with remotecentral for discrete codes for 2A and 2B. However I am leaving my reply below on this forum in case it might help others with remote codes.

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I do not know what remote you are programming but I use the JP1 connector on RadioShack and URC remotes and the JP1 ir.exe and KeyMaster software that you can download off the Internet. For my Panasonic plasma TVs (TH-50PX60 and TH-42PX50) I build the macro so that it uses: TV;TV/Video{A/B};2 to select the Component #1 input, TV;TV/Video{A/B};3 to select the Component #2 input; and TV;TV/Video{A/B};4 to select the HDMI input. The TV/Video {A/B} opens the choices for input and the numbers 2, 3, or 4 makes the input choice.

I also have the TH-65PF9UK and I used a learning remote and ir.exe to identify the codes for the component and DVI inputs (as well as the Discrete On/Off codes) and then programmed them to the TV/Video keys on the remote. For example when the remote is in the SAT mode I program the TV/Video button to send out Setup Code 0250 EFC 187 HexCMD $3F to switch to the component input. When the remote is in the DVD mode I program the TV/Video button to send out Setup Code 0250 EFC 183 HexCMD $BF to switch to the DVI input. I then build the macros so that for example to watch using the DVD player I use DVD;TV/Video{A/B} at the begininng of the macro to switch the TV to the DVI input. All of the rest of my component sources go through my Yamaha receiver and I thus use the Yamaha to switch those sources. You can set the TH-65PF9UK to always turn on using the same input so I chose Component input so that I don't have to do a lot of switching of the TV unless I want to watch the DVD player using the HDMI to DVI cable to the DVI input of the TV.

I don't know if that helps.

I just realized that I misread your question and so I have edited my reply to suggest that you do as Bruzzi suggested and check with remotecentral for discrete codes for 2A and 2B. However I am leaving my reply below on this forum in case it might help others with remote codes.

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I do not know what remote you are programming but I use the JP1 connector on RadioShack and URC remotes and the JP1 ir.exe and KeyMaster software that you can download off the Internet. For my Panasonic plasma TVs (TH-50PX60 and TH-42PX50) I build the macro so that it uses: TV;TV/Video{A/B};2 to select the Component #1 input, TV;TV/Video{A/B};3 to select the Component #2 input; and TV;TV/Video{A/B};4 to select the HDMI input. The TV/Video {A/B} opens the choices for input and the numbers 2, 3, or 4 makes the input choice.

I also have the TH-65PF9UK and I used a learning remote and ir.exe to identify the codes for the component and DVI inputs (as well as the Discrete On/Off codes) and then programmed them to the TV/Video keys on the remote. For example when the remote is in the SAT mode I program the TV/Video button to send out Setup Code 0250 EFC 187 HexCMD $3F to switch to the component input. When the remote is in the DVD mode I program the TV/Video button to send out Setup Code 0250 EFC 183 HexCMD $BF to switch to the DVI input. I then build the macros so that for example to watch using the DVD player I use DVD;TV/Video{A/B} at the begininng of the macro to switch the TV to the DVI input. All of the rest of my component sources go through my Yamaha receiver and I thus use the Yamaha to switch those sources. You can set the TH-65PF9UK to always turn on using the same input so I chose Component input so that I don't have to do a lot of switching of the TV unless I want to watch the DVD player using the HDMI to DVI cable to the DVI input of the TV.

I don't know if that helps.

aprest,
I also use a URC remote and JP1 and I have the discrete codes for the PC input and slots 1-3. The problem is that slot 2 has the supplied dual terminal board (1 ea. composite and svideo). If input 2 on the plasma has already been selected, then pressing a macro that also selects input 2 causes the plasma to toggle between 2A (composite) and 2B (svid). So far, I haven't been able to find separate discrete codes for 2A and 2B.

As I mentioned previously, selecting another input first, and then input 2, causes the plasma to stay on the currently selected sub-input (A or B).

Regards,
Steve

aprest,
I also use a URC remote and JP1 and I have the discrete codes for the PC input and slots 1-3. The problem is that slot 2 has the supplied dual terminal board (1 ea. composite and svideo). If input 2 on the plasma has already been selected, then pressing a macro that also selects input 2 causes the plasma to toggle between 2A (composite) and 2B (svid). So far, I haven't been able to find separate discrete codes for 2A and 2B.

As I mentioned previously, selecting another input first, and then input 2, causes the plasma to stay on the currently selected sub-input (A or B).

Regards,
Steve

I guess you could assign a key to toggle between 2A and 2B but then you would have to switch manually if it is on the wrong one.

I am curious why you are using composite and S-Video. I bought the bullet a few years ago and bought a Yamaha receiver that can upconvert video inputs to component so that I can run just a set of component cables from the receiver to the TV. Someday I want to buy the new Yamaha that upconverts to HDMI but so far I haven't had to. I like the Yamaha better than Denon or Onkyo because the remote codes are simple and discrete codes are available for everything.

If you come across the discrete codes please post them here.

You're Welcome. :)


The "Negative Function" is one of options on the Screensaver Menu to prevent Image Retention / Burn-In.

As the name says, it'll show a negative image (black and white) of the picture displayed.

There's also a White Bar Scroll (a white bar will continue to scroll from left to right)
and Wobbling (Shift the image a dot level Up/Down/Left/Right

Is there anything like this for the consumer Panny PX60U models?

Is there anything like this for the consumer Panny PX60U models?

Unfortunately not.

What can PX60U owners do if they develop reverse burn-in of the top and bottom bars, as in the picture above?

Sorry if this has been asked before, but did not find an answer in Bruzzi's FAQs.....what happens when one unplugs a 9UK, i.e., service and setup menu items? Do you have 30 seconds before losing those settings? TIA....

Sorry if this has been asked before, but did not find an answer in Bruzzi's FAQs.....what happens when one unplugs a 9UK, i.e., service and setup menu items? Do you have 30 seconds before losing those settings? TIA....

I have not specifically tested our 9UK, but on our previous Panny (42" 5UZ), the settings were preserved indefinitely. Seems they are permanently stored in some type of flash memory.

Just a note, but the Plasma Forum Thread Rules link in the original post is invalid.

Just a note, but the Plasma Forum Thread Rules link in the original post is invalid.


Fixed. :)

I recently (yesterday), purchased a Panasonic TH-42PX600U after much deliberation and some help from the folks here. I'm just learning all the technical jargon so excuse my remedial vocabulary. I need help to decide what else to buy. This is what else I currently have: 1) An old (6yrs) non-progressive Sony DVD player, 2) an old (5yrs) Pioneer receiver with 2 component RGB outputs and 5.1 surround, 3) a Playstation 2, 4) A comcast HD cable box with DVR.

I've already decided to avoid the Blu-ray/HD devices for now while they battle it out for supremacy. So my questions...

1) Do I need to buy a new progressive DVD player to optimize playing of standard DVD's on my new plasma? If so, which one? I've done some research and the OPPO DV-970HD looks pretty good.

2) Should I upgrade receivers now or can I wait to put a little more dough in the bank? i.e. what do i sacrifice with my current receiver?

3) Any advice on a universal remote? A colleague suggested the Logitech Harmony 880 Advanced Universal Remote , and it sounds pretty good.

Thanks in advance...I look forward to hearing your responses

I recently (yesterday), purchased a Panasonic TH-42PX600U after much deliberation and some help from the folks here. I'm just learning all the technical jargon so excuse my remedial vocabulary. I need help to decide what else to buy. This is what else I currently have: 1) An old (6yrs) non-progressive Sony DVD player, 2) an old (5yrs) Pioneer receiver with 2 component RGB outputs and 5.1 surround, 3) a Playstation 2, 4) A comcast HD cable box with DVR.

I've already decided to avoid the Blu-ray/HD devices for now while they battle it out for supremacy. So my questions...

1) Do I need to buy a new progressive DVD player to optimize playing of standard DVD's on my new plasma? If so, which one? I've done some research and the OPPO DV-970HD looks pretty good.

2) Should I upgrade receivers now or can I wait to put a little more dough in the bank? i.e. what do i sacrifice with my current receiver?

3) Any advice on a universal remote? A colleague suggested the Logitech Harmony 880 Advanced Universal Remote , and it sounds pretty good.

Thanks in advance...I look forward to hearing your responses

Good Choice, I just got one of these sets about a week ago as well. Love It! :)

1) Yeah, a DVD player upgrade is a good idea, expecially if you watch a lot of movies. The Oppo players are all solid. I really like my Sony NSP-D70 and most of the Sony's seem decent.

2) Thats up to you, You can get a pretty good complete surround system with a receiver, speakers, and subwoofer for like $200-$300 bucks. I did, and even at its modest cost it makes my living room a freegin theater.

3) Not sure about remotes.... I just use the two different ones I need.

Good Luck! ;)

As afr as a remote is concerned, the Universla MX-850 and MX-900 are excellent units. See the reviews at Remote Central.

As far as a remote is concerned, the Univeral MX-850 and MX-900 are excellent units. See the reviews at Remote Central.

I am brand new to the forum and hope I am in the right place (the forum is a little overwhelming) with this question. I have been reading and watching the 50 " tv's and it seems from all I can find the Panasonic TH-50PX60U is the best bang for the buck. I went into tweeters and the salesman is trying to push me towards the pioneer PDP5016 HD which I understand is built for tweeter. In the store the picture was better on the pioneer but was that due to set up? I can't find a lot of feed back about the pioneer unit so I am a little sceptical of it and still leaning to the "panny" Any thoughts?
thanks,
crossworxz

I just received a Panasonic TH-42PX60U as an early Christmas present. However, when I hooked up the external speakers and turned off the TV speakers, I am unable to adjust the volume from the TV remote (it says speakers off).

I find it very difficult to believe that a TV of this stature does not have a variable volume adjustment for the external speakers. Am I doing something wrong here, or is this feature not present in this unit? The old TV that this is replacing (a 5-10 year old 19" low-end CRT) even had this feature. I'm clueless here. Please help!

As a side note, my pre-amp is a McIntosh C35. Does anyone know what the remote control code is for this Mac? I suppose this would be another way around this issue.

We have a home of our own now.

:) :) Thank you for listening. :) :)

We have a home of our own now.

:) :) Thank you for listening. :) :)

Yup... Miracles Do Happen !!!! :D :D :D

Hi all,

I'm new to this thread. A ton of good information as I am a new owner of a TH-50PX6U. Based on all the good info, I decided to call Panasonic today to request the new Firmware version 1.25. I checked & I have version 1.21. They are going to send out the SD card with instuctions to install the new version.

This leads me to my question: I'm not sure this update is worth doing? So far my picture is fine to me.
I use the standard pic mode with my picture set @ 0, my brightness set @ 0, and my sharpness set @ +15. I've only used the TV for 150 hours at this point.

I don't see poor picture details, faces that appear too "Clay" like, Excessive brightness with no details in the black level. Again, I've only watched 150 hours on the TV...just trying to break it in. Okay, maybe I've seen a few faces that could have been clay like.

Should I install the new Firmware V1.25? Has anybody done this with positive results? Newer is better correct? They wouldn't make a new update for nothing? Right? You guys know, so tell me what to do.

Thanks for your time & Happy Holidays!! :cool:

Hi all,

I'm new to this thread. A ton of good information as I am a new owner of a TH-50PX6U. Based on all the good info, I decided to call Panasonic today to request the new Firmware version 1.25. I checked & I have version 1.21. They are going to send out the SD card with instuctions to install the new version.

This leads me to my question: I'm not sure this update is worth doing? So far my picture is fine to me.
I use the standard pic mode with my picture set @ 0, my brightness set @ 0, and my sharpness set @ +15. I've only used the TV for 150 hours at this point.

I don't see poor picture details, faces that appear too "Clay" like, Excessive brightness with no details in the black level. Again, I've only watched 150 hours on the TV...just trying to break it in. Okay, maybe I've seen a few faces that could have been clay like.

Should I install the new Firmware V1.25? Has anybody done this with positive results? Newer is better correct? They wouldn't make a new update for nothing? Right? You guys know, so tell me what to do.

Thanks for your time & Happy Holidays!! :cool:

I have the 42" set and also do NOT see any of these artifacts. I am not going to do the upgrade since Im from the school of "If its not broke then dont fix it". If your set is performing well then I would leave it alone. On crappier HD feeds you might see some digital artifacts, I have myself. But, those are not the TV's fault. If you see something on ALL source material then its prolly the TV.... thats my take on it anyways. ;)

One thing though: Turn that sharpness down a bit! +15 is way high compared to what most calibrated sets are at.

I have a Panasonic TH50PX60U. I am interested in calibrating the color space.
In doing so, i need access to the RGB controls on the TV. How can i get access to that?
Many thanks
caymann

I am brand new to the forum and hope I am in the right place (the forum is a little overwhelming) with this question. I have been reading and watching the 50 " tv's and it seems from all I can find the Panasonic TH-50PX60U is the best bang for the buck. I went into tweeters and the salesman is trying to push me towards the pioneer PDP5016 HD which I understand is built for tweeter. In the store the picture was better on the pioneer but was that due to set up? I can't find a lot of feed back about the pioneer unit so I am a little sceptical of it and still leaning to the "panny" Any thoughts?
thanks,
crossworxz


Chances are they dont have the Panasonic's display set-up to appear as Vibrant and thus it looks like the image quality is not as good but my question to you is this what's the price difference between the two set's??? Personally I haven't seen any set's lined up side by side with Panasonic's line of Plasma's that dollar for dollar are a better buy!(Features/Quality/Price)
I think the Panasonic's look great and for the price right now you can't find a better plasma period! But that's just my opinion! Oh ya and also they are the #1 selling plasma manufacuter for the last 2 or 3 years in every consumer report category across the board so......

The reverse...

You are simply saving the life of those pixels since they are not being lit compared to the rest. So if you watch 2.35:1 sources straight over and over again, eventually those pixels will be brighter that the ones in the center of the picture.


Pansonic has said this in regards to Burn-In on there Plasma set's...

Burn-In Resistance
Myth #3: Plasma TVs get screen burn-in.

As a plasma TV (or CRT TV) creates an image, the phosphors that create the image begin to age and become less bright. If some of the phosphors are used more than others, they will age more quickly and Burn-in occurs.


Panasonic's Solution to the above listed Myth...
Panasonic has made great strides at reducing the susceptibility to burn-in by modifying the phosphor formulation that is utilized. Panasonic has even gone so far as to modify the blue phosphor at the molecular level, as it tends to be more susceptible to burn-in than the red and green phosphors. By increasing the operational life of their Plasma sets as well as adding pixel shifting, changing phosphor composition and controlling brightness, Panasonic has dramatically improved their plasma sets' resistance to burn-in.

The latest Panasonic Plasma TVs are less susceptible to burn-in than a picture tube TV

Pansonic has said this in regards to Burn-In on there Plasma set's...

Burn-In Resistance
Myth #3: Plasma TVs get screen burn-in.

As a plasma TV (or CRT TV) creates an image, the phosphors that create the image begin to age and become less bright. If some of the phosphors are used more than others, they will age more quickly and Burn-in occurs.


Panasonic's Solution to the above listed Myth...
Panasonic has made great strides at reducing the susceptibility to burn-in by modifying the phosphor formulation that is utilized. Panasonic has even gone so far as to modify the blue phosphor at the molecular level, as it tends to be more susceptible to burn-in than the red and green phosphors. By increasing the operational life of their Plasma sets as well as adding pixel shifting, changing phosphor composition and controlling brightness, Panasonic has dramatically improved their plasma sets' resistance to burn-in.

The latest Panasonic Plasma TVs are less susceptible to burn-in than a picture tube TV


Really???

So I can play games several hours or watch sources that leave black bars or even let static images playing over and over again and never fear about burn-in???

"That's interesting."

If It's only a Myth then why Burn-in still not covered by their warranty ??? ;)

Really???

So I can play games several hours or watch sources that leave black bars or even let static images playing over and over again and never fear about burn-in???

"That's interesting."

If It's only a Myth then why Burn-in still not covered by their warranty ??? ;)

Yeah, you wonder huh? I suppose that they don't because where would they draw the line for what they would cover and what they wouldn't cover? How do they know whether the paused DVD was excessive or if the video games were played all night?

Well, I've never seen any IR or anything on my Panny 42" so let's hope whatever I'm doing is the "right" thing. :D

Really???

So I can play games several hours or watch sources that leave black bars or even let static images playing over and over again and never fear about burn-in???

"That's interesting."

If It's only a Myth then why Burn-in still not covered by their warranty ??? ;)

Is burn -in covered under cc extended warranty? I don't think I have it on my screen but I do do play my ps3 on my plasma.

Really???

So I can play games several hours or watch sources that leave black bars or even let static images playing over and over again and never fear about burn-in???

Hey Bruzzi,

Just an update... My kids do just that to a 50"-7gen panel (TH50PHD7UY). Two years now, and still "showing" strong.

Since it's their TV... who cares what they do to it... right???; ...and I do know they leave PS-2 and Gamecube images on the screen static, for long periods of time, even overnight. They still apparently don't know where the power button is for the monitor, or their game consoles.

I used to flip out about it in the beginning, telling them what was going to happen to the screen, but not anymore. They didn't believe me then... and they definitely don't believe me two years later. It's now become a battle over wasting electricity. I've looked closely for signs of IR or permanent burn-in, but can't find even a remote indication of either.

You've got to figure that there have been additional improvements in the last two generations of panels.

I wouldn't suggest anyone trying this, especially on your primary display. Who know's... maybe I got the "freak" panel. But as I stated, not even an inkling of IR or Burn-in... and that's on an abused panel.

So if you take reasonable care in your viewing habits, burn-in and IR should be a non issue with Panny Panels.

Now if I only had the $70K for that 103"....... Oh yea... and the wall for it where a forklift can reach...LOL.

PANASONIC
Kid tested tough!
:)

I have been looking at LCDs for awhile but not happy with pixelation from fast motions. So checking into plasma.

Sounds like plasma has made significant improvement to prevent IR/burn-in.

So now my second fact or fiction question: glare.

Is it something you'll get used to? My position is that I want to use the TV as a TV not as a mirror. Sorry for the extreme analogy.

The room faces north with a 4x8 window and the TV would be facing it. So yeah we would be seeing the reflected light.

We also have hanging lights from the ceiling about 5 feet in front of the TV.

Should I be concerned. In term of brand name, which one is good at preventing IR/burn-in and "ambient glare"?

I cannot for the life of me find the 'burn in dvd' link that I used when I first got my new pdp.
I have searched and searched...

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

I cannot for the life of me find the 'burn in dvd' link that I used when I first got my new pdp.
I have searched and searched...

Can anyone point me in the right direction?


Here is the Evangelos Angelides (http://www.eaprogramming.com/) link.

Ed

I cannot for the life of me find the 'burn in dvd' link that I used when I first got my new pdp.
I have searched and searched...

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

You have the download link now, but if you are interested the avsforum thread and discussion is a STICKY near the top of the "Flat Panel General & New FP Tech" forum and can be found here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=583089)

Hey Bruzzi,

Just an update... My kids do just that to a 50"-7gen panel (TH50PHD7UY). Two years now, and still "showing" strong.

Since it's their TV... who cares what they do to it... right???; ...and I do know they leave PS-2 and Gamecube images on the screen static, for long periods of time, even overnight. They still apparently don't know where the power button is for the monitor, or their game consoles.

I used to flip out about it in the beginning, telling them what was going to happen to the screen, but not anymore. They didn't believe me then... and they definitely don't believe me two years later. It's now become a battle over wasting electricity. I've looked closely for signs of IR or permanent burn-in, but can't find even a remote indication of either.

You've got to figure that there have been additional improvements in the last two generations of panels.

I wouldn't suggest anyone trying this, especially on your primary display. Who know's... maybe I got the "freak" panel. But as I stated, not even an inkling of IR or Burn-in... and that's on an abused panel.

So if you take reasonable care in your viewing habits, burn-in and IR should be a non issue with Panny Panels.

Now if I only had the $70K for that 103"....... Oh yea... and the wall for it where a forklift can reach...LOL.

PANASONIC
Kid tested tough!
:)

The latest Panasonic Plasma FAQs say essentially that if you wouldn't worry about it on a CRT you don't need to worry about it on their Plasmas. (http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vFAQ?page=PlasmaFAQ&storeId=15001&catGroupId=24973&catalogId=13401#tv5) Now this is in reference to the 9th generation Panasonic PDPs. I still downloaded the break in DVD and followed conventional break in protocol when I got my TH-58PX60U because why take chances, but what you are saying seems to give credibility to Panasonic's claim.

I have been looking at LCDs for awhile but not happy with pixelation from fast motions. So checking into plasma.

Sounds like plasma has made significant improvement to prevent IR/burn-in.

So now my second fact or fiction question: glare.

Is it something you'll get used to? My position is that I want to use the TV as a TV not as a mirror. Sorry for the extreme analogy.

The room faces north with a 4x8 window and the TV would be facing it. So yeah we would be seeing the reflected light.

We also have hanging lights from the ceiling about 5 feet in front of the TV.

Should I be concerned. In term of brand name, which one is good at preventing IR/burn-in and "ambient glare"?


Ok, this is my understanding of this subject, so someone correct me if I'm wrong. As I understand it, glare and reflection are two different things when it comes to plasmas. Glare refers to the phenomenon of light hitting the screen, spreading over the surface of it, and reflecting back with the result of making the picture look washed out. Reflection, on the other hand is just that- seeing your sofa, end table, your own mug, etc. reflected on the screen.

Panasonic, as well as other companies advertise anti-glare, anti-reflection screens, but I think more progress has been made toward suppressing glare than reflection. Samsung, for instance, is on its (I think) third iteration of anti-glare screen, called Ultra FilterBright. Check out this YouTube clip of their auto plasma mount: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxNWXbCA8Qs. Most of is shot from the side, showing the mount, but at the end, you can see the front of the TV. Reflections are still there. They look as if they may be a little diffuse, but they are there.

BruZZi or anyone else out there: here's a retarded question that maybe you can answer:

I bought a TH-50PX60U but the lousy apartment cable I have just ouputs composite straight into the set.

I'm not able to change the black level to light--it's always dark which means I have to run the brightness on 28 for the picture to look decent.

Would it be the same if the cable box ouputted S-Video or would it have to output component for me to at least be able to change the black level from dark to light?

I ask these questions just as an interim solution until I can get DISH installed.

I just wondered how I needed the set hooked up to be able to CHANGE the black level from dark to light?

I am interested in Panasonic TH-42PX600U. When I went to Magnolia the sales person said that this model is being discontinued. Is there any body know if this is true. then when we can expect a new model. Magnolia sales person did not know any expected time of new model. Please let me know if a new model is on its way in.
thanks

There is a new model on the way. It's the TH-42PX77U. Posters on this forum who have talked to Panasonic say it should be on the market next month.

does anyone know if any of the new Panasonic models have PIP, I have read the specs that's available and none of them mention anything about PIP

I have a 42 " professional series plasma...in other words my monitor doesn't have any type of integrated tuner....it has both bnc and composite inputs which I'm not too familiar with...is there anyway to connect the coaxial cable which comes out of my wall so I can watch basic cable on the display..I assume they have adapters of some sort that will allow this..thanks

I have a 42 " professional series plasma...in other words my monitor doesn't have any type of integrated tuner....it has both bnc and composite inputs which I'm not too familiar with...is there anyway to connect the coaxial cable which comes out of my wall so I can watch basic cable on the display..I assume they have adapters of some sort that will allow this..thanks
No tuner no cable picture. You'll need a cable converter box from your cable co. Then get 3 adapters for the RCA cable from the box to the BNC connectors. Then your set.

My new Pioneer 6070HD plasma is fantastic, but I've noticed (on day two of ownership) that on a couple of channels, there is a line or 2 of white "dancing" pixels at the top edge of the picture -- coincidentally a problem I have also noticed on playback of virtually every program I have transferred from my older series 2 Tivo to my laptop. Since I'm using a Series 3 HD Tivo now, and see this issue only on one or two channels, I am inclined to believe it has something to do with the cable signal. Any ideas? (I searched here and webwide for similar issues, but couldn't find anything useful). Other than this little anomaly, PQ is great to stunning (thanks to D-Nice's settings!)

Can someone explain to me why most of the 42 inch Plasmas on the mkt are 1024x768 and you have to move up to 50 inch to get 1366x768.

Can someone explain to me why most of the 42 inch Plasmas on the mkt are 1024x768 and you have to move up to 50 inch to get 1366x768.A few reasons:

- More pixels = higher production cost.

- Bigger pixels more readily lend themselves to greater brightness and contrast. As an example, many of the new 1080 plasmas have lower contrast ratios than their 768 siblings. The same was true for several years with 42" HDs vs EDs.

- The visible difference in sharpness on a 42" screen was determined by manufacturers not to be great enough to justify the additional cost, especially when combined with the brightness/contrast issues.

There may also be some production quirks involved, too, much like the reason so many LCD manufacturers use 40" and 46" screens vs Plasmas 42" and 50" sizes. That has to do with efficient use of the glass.

There is more to a high quality picture than resolution, and manufacturers try to strike a balance that provides the best cost/benefit ratio.

A few reasons:

- More pixels = higher production cost.

- Bigger pixels more readily lend themselves to greater brightness and contrast. As an example, many of the new 1080 plasmas have lower contrast ratios than their 768 siblings. The same was true for several years with 42" HDs vs EDs.

- The visible difference in sharpness on a 42" screen was determined by manufacturers not to be great enough to justify the additional cost, especially when combined with the brightness/contrast issues.

There may also be some production quirks involved, too, much like the reason so many LCD manufacturers use 40" and 46" screens vs Plasmas 42" and 50" sizes. That has to do with efficient use of the glass.

There is more to a high quality picture than resolution, and manufacturers try to strike a balance that provides the best cost/benefit ratio.


Thx MacFan...That being said for those with more experience than someone like me(and i'm sure this is open for debate) What has better picture? A 42 inch Plasma 1024x768 or a 42 inch LCD w/ 1080p? I can get a new 42 inch Panny 77U for 25% off, I realize resolution isnt the most important thing to look for..but am i shooting myself in the foot by getting the lower resolution tv over a higher one for LCD. I could get the 50PX77U w/ the same discount but its a little to big for my room and costs more $

thx in advance

Eye of the beholder! :p

I prefer the "look" of a good plasma like Panasonic. They usually have deeper blacks and their colors seem richer. Overall, plasma pictures seem more like a CRT to me, albeit much clearer than the tube sets most people have owned. Also, I still tend to be conscious of blurring on fast moving objects on LCD's, even though they have improved to the point where this is not noticeable to most people.

But many others choose the LCD, liking the bright crisp look they offer. LCD's tend to be more eye catching in a store because they appear brighter, although that advantage is not as notable in most homes which do not have as much ambient light.

Only people with exceptional vision will be able to detect the greater resolution at normal viewing distances (~9-12 feet). I always suggest letting one's eyes decide, not the spec sheet. (But then, I have trouble following that advice myself! :rolleyes: )

Other than those caveats, all I can do is suggest you look at them in as many stores as your can, being sure to view them from the same distance you would at home. Store displays vary, and the set that looks best in one may not in another.

I'd take the Panasonic in a heartbeat. I have an older model, and still love it as much as I did when it was new. But, in the end, the "best" set is the one that makes you happiest, so if after a lot of thought and looking, the resolution issue truly bothers you, you probably should go ahead with an LCD. After all, you're the one living with it, not me.

being sure to view them from the same distance you would at home.

I have found that as time has gone by that I keep edging the recliner closer and closer to the set. :D

I have gone from 2.5x diameter distance to 1.85x diameter distance. 42"x2.5 = 105", 42"x1.85 = 77.7"

You might want to take a ruler with you to the store. The problem is that at the store the sets may be elevated, or elevated and inclined towards the floor (usually wall mounts). Hey, I figure they want to keep the buttons out of the reach of mindless children (or from most of the guys here who want to do the adjustments themselves. Come on, you know that most stores are set on 'Vivid,' so we're likely to want to change it to 'Normal'. :D ).

Does anyone know what the return policy is for PanasonicDirect.com? (Panugurl??) I'm going to be ordering a 58" plasma from them and would like to know what the process is for returning, if I need to. The website only says I'd contact Plasma Concierge to "set up" this and that. What does that mean? Would I need to ship it back? Or will Plasma Concierge send someone to our house to re-box it up and take it away?

Also, does anyone have experience with returning items thru PanasonicDirect.com?

Does anyone know what the return policy is for PanasonicDirect.com? (Panugurl??) I'm going to be ordering a 58" plasma from them and would like to know what the process is for returning, if I need to. The website only says I'd contact Plasma Concierge to "set up" this and that. What does that mean? Would I need to ship it back? Or will Plasma Concierge send someone to our house to re-box it up and take it away? Also, does anyone have experience with returning items thru PanasonicDirect.com?




THANKS FOR THE LAUGH :D :cool: :eek: :) :p ;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by duga6
Does anyone know what the return policy is for PanasonicDirect.com? (Panugurl??) I'm going to be ordering a 58" plasma from them and would like to know what the process is for returning, if I need to. The website only says I'd contact Plasma Concierge to "set up" this and that. What does that mean? Would I need to ship it back? Or will Plasma Concierge send someone to our house to re-box it up and take it away? Also, does anyone have experience with returning items thru PanasonicDirect.com?


THANKS FOR THE LAUGH :D :cool: :eek: :) :p ;)

Bushman,

At 11:15am today, I got off the phone with Michael at Panasonic Direct Sales. He said that, for returns, all I have to do is call the Plasma Concierge help line and they will set everything up. This includes getting someone to come out to either fix the set or haul it away as another is delivered. Panny pays for return shipping, too. He suggested that the call be made within the first week, but they have a 30 days "no questions asked" return policy.

I'm sorry if I inhibited your laughter.

Hi everyone. I hope this thread is ok to post this question on.

I recently changed apartments and had my plasma remounted. The panny was off for about three days. After getting all the cables reconnected at the new place, I can't get an HDMI signal to work Other 3 slots work fine (component1, component 2, RGB)

I tried multiple sources (Sci Atlanta 8300, MacMini, Toshiba HD-A1 DVD player) and I can't get any of them to appear on the panny. Just get the no signal message in yellow letters. The HDMI blade (TY-FB7HM) worked fine before, but now nothing. I have it in slot number 1.

I tried everything. Powered off the plasma by pulling the power cord, took out the blade and reinstalled, multiple sources, etc.

Any advice/help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

When I originally bought my TH-42PHD6UY my D* receiver and DVD player only had DVI out so I bought a DVI blade for the 6UY. A few years later all the receivers and DVD players have HDMI out. I would like to buy an HDMI blade so I can get audio and video to the monitor on a single cable. Does anyone know where one could get one of these? If someone has one for sale please PM me.

Thanks.

i`ll wait for the lasertv. Wij throw away many dollars when a new, better and cheaper technology is coming.
They say it`ll arrive at christmas or at the beginning next year. This all i found at www.lsrtv.com
Wikipedia has some nice info about this to

Hi all,

I got Sharp 52D82U thru F/F promotion. After hooking up to HD source, I'm noticing banding (on different place and with different scenes).

Are banding, cloding etc. issues only happening with LCD tv's? What about plasma tv, can they also have banding issues?

pls. let me know, it will help me deciding my tv

nice post......................

i`ll wait for the lasertv. Wij throw away many dollars when a new, better and cheaper technology is coming.
They say it`ll arrive at christmas or at the beginning next year. This all i found at www.lsrtv.com
Wikipedia has some nice info about this to


"Throw away" many dollars? What does that mean? Sure, there will always be new technologies coming down the pike. But if you think for one minute you won't be paying a HUGE early-adopter premium for this technology --if one is to believe it will actually be available or live up to the marketing hype--you're a bit naive. Plus, you end up without the benefit of HDTV for yet another year. Life is short, man. You have to pull the trigger sometime.

The claim they seem to be making is that you'll be able to see more accurate colors with laser technology. I'd say the majority of people who have a decent plasma or decent (not cheapo) LCD now would be pretty happy with the color fidelity.

I have been looking into this laser technology since I heard about it at the beginning of the summer. I have talked with a lot of vendors and it appears the technology is not as far along as the press releases and website would have you believe. Check the source of all of the info - it is from the developer of the chip, not from a single manufacturer. Don't hold your breath for these laser tv's any time soon.

Am a newbie to the forum here, but have a question that I can't seem to find an answer to. I want to buy a plasma for our cottage. What I'm concerned about is that it is a 4 season cottage, heated by a wood fireplace in the winter & cold weather etc. Am out there most weekends, but the cottage is at ambient season/winter temperatures when not occupied.

Can a plasma withstand temperatures that can easily fall to probably -35c during the winter months (normal Manitoba winter) without causing any damage? It would be brought up to normal room temp of course, before any use. I sure hope so, but not holding my breath on this one.

Thanks for any advice on this issue.

Dave

Yeesh! -35C "normal Manitoba winter". My 42PH9UK manual only seems to list "operating temperatures, which goes down to 0C. Just thinking about this question gives me chills.

Yeesh! -35C "normal Manitoba winter". My 42PH9UK manual only seems to list "operating temperatures, which goes down to 0C. Just thinking about this question gives me chills.
I had contacted Panasonic support and all they sent me back were the exact same specs for a plasma, that are listed below almost all advertised displays. They will not commit themselves to saying anything beyond their original specs. I can't believe that someone in the forum hasn't had to deal with this issue. Am still hoping for an answer from a forum member who has had some first hand experience with this kind of temperature situation.

Review of TH58PZ700U

Panasonic 58" plasma tv model no. TH58PZ700U- provide your recommendation to purchase this tv.

Does anyone know how to adjust overscan on a Panasonic plasma? I can get into the SM, but I can't find an overscan adjustment.

Does anyone know how to adjust overscan on a Panasonic plasma? I can get into the SM, but I can't find an overscan adjustment.

I wouldn't mess with anything in the service menu. Adjusting the overscan is user adjustable and is under "Picture", "Other Adjustments", and "HD Size". The options are either Size 1 or Size 2...from the 750U manual:

"Selects between 95 % (Size 1) or 100 % (Size 2) for the scanning area when HDTV. (Size 1/ Size 2)
Select “Size 1” if noise is generated on the edges of the screen.
Size 1: Selected item for “HD size”. Scanning 95%
Size 2: Selected item for “HD size”. Scanning 100%"

It's not adjustable in the user menu on my TV. I'm perfectly comfortable using the SM on a TV. Every new TV I get I go into the SM and make adjustments. I just can't find an overscan adjustment in the SM on the Panasonic plasma.

I can't find a compatible resolution between my Panasonic TH-50PZ77u and my PC... I am using Powerstrip and going from VGA to HDMI through a converter and I've tried just about every resolution and only a few low res work with horrible quality. I know I'm missing something simple here but I just can't figure it out. Please assist. Thanks!!!

I can't find a compatible resolution between my Panasonic TH-50PZ77u and my PC... I am using Powerstrip and going from VGA to HDMI through a converter and I've tried just about every resolution and only a few low res work with horrible quality. I know I'm missing something simple here but I just can't figure it out. Please assist. Thanks!!!

I had one of my many PC's hooked up to my 77U and it was perfect the only problem was that at the native resolution 1920 X 1080 the fonts and icons were so small from my normal viewing distance that it wasn't worth using the HTPC setup. It was cool to see the PC on a huge monitor but in the end I just removed the PC and use the plasma for what it is designed for which is phenominal movies and TV. I would suggest you purchase a new video card with a DVI output and get a DVi to HDMI convertor and hokup the PC this way which is how I had it connected and it worked flawlessly. I was using an ATI Radeon 9550 but any of the newer cards with DVI out should work fine. If there are any cards available with HDMI out that would be even better as it would negate the purchase of the DVI adapter.

I own the TH-PWD42 and would like to know all of the serial number locations. Other than the ridiculous sticker which can be so easily removed by petty thieves, wouldn't there be SOME other place (like in the service menu) that a corporation as large as Panasonic might put the sole piece of information related to proof of ownership? I guess there is no real inventory control over there at Panny; wonder if they are currently accepting applications in the shipping department...

:confused:

I'm excited about the prospects of laser tv, as it appears laser powered micromonitors, handsets, and even front projectors are in the works.

http://laser-tv.org

Can a plasma withstand temperatures that can easily fall to probably -35c during the winter months (normal Manitoba winter) without causing any damage? It would be brought up to normal room temp of course, before any use.

I realize you asked this some time ago, but your question made me curious. Checking a lot of online sources, it seems that Panasonic sometimes quotes a minimum storage temperature of -20C. That generally matches other TV manufacturers' specifications, and seems to be the consensus of option. I'm not sure that's based on actual tests or experience of problems, but I don't think I would risk storing it at a lower temperature. There is genuine cause for concern with a large glass panel with fine cell structures etched into it.

Keep in mind that although the outdoor ambient temp in Manitoba can get down to -40C on a cold winter night, the daytime temperature is seldom below -25C even during a cold snap. Your cabin will tend to stay at a warmer average temperature indoors, especially if you have any residual heat source or any electrical gear operating in standby mode. The TV itself will stay a bit warmer than the surroundings due to standy power consumption if you leave it plugged in and the power to the cabin turned on.

Here is the Evangelos Angelides (http://www.eaprogramming.com/) link.

Ed

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I wouldn't mess with anything in the service menu. Adjusting the overscan is user adjustable and is under "Picture", "Other Adjustments", and "HD Size". The options are either Size 1 or Size 2...from the 750U manual:

"Selects between 95 % (Size 1) or 100 % (Size 2) for the scanning area when HDTV. (Size 1/ Size 2)
Select “Size 1” if noise is generated on the edges of the screen.
Size 1: Selected item for “HD size”. Scanning 95%
Size 2: Selected item for “HD size”. Scanning 100%"

My image is larger than the viewable area. But my HD Size is greyed for me. I am using a component video connection. Perhaps that is the problem?

Hi all,

Last night I had a go at calibrating a Panasonic 42PV600 plasma. The goal was to calibrate the CINEMA picture mode with input from HDMI2.

However, when I enter the service menu the picture mode seems to change to DYNAMIC - and it also seems to store the changes made to the service menu parameters in the DYNAMIC profile.

Does anybody know how to access/store the CINEMA mode service menu parameters on this set?

Above the whitebalance parameters in the service menu the word "Normal" is visible - whhich is quite confusing since changes at stored in the DYNAMIC profile and since I can not find a way to change the "Normal" label...

All inputs are greatly appreciated.

Lars

sigh.. was searching for laser tv's disadvantages on wiki and i found out that its laser could be harmful to human eyes even with some sort of filter in the front also still dangerous. SED and FED are out. i guess only OLED can be better. best to the environment and hoping the 'blue' can live longer

oops..

I'm excited about the prospects of laser tv, as it appears laser powered micromonitors, handsets, and even front projectors are in the works.

http://laser-tv.org

I think I will wait a few years before I even look into Laser TV's. During that time I will enjoy my plasma for as long as it lasts.

My head is spinning. So, if I want a great display for my new Blu-ray player, but don't want to spend a million dollars, what should be my low-end budget? $1200?

Depends on what size you want. There are a lot of good TVs for under $1000.

Hi guys! I have a plasma Tv Panasonic 42PV80(Brasil ) = 42PX80(USA) shows some kind of colored lines at the TV's borders. The pics below shows the line you see when you come close to a 42's TV around 0.3 meters with a camera with its macro on. Is it normal to plasma or its a TV model problem, since other guys are having it too?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/abcoon_/1-9.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b282/abcoon_/2-9.jpg

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I have a th-50PHD6uY plasma with the extra slot. I want to install a DVI board (TY-42TM6d). Currently there is slot 1 open.
Isn't that the slot that the DVI board must be installed in? I also have the composite/component board and the PC input that I'm using. What are the rules on where they can go? I tried reading the other posts, but they are confusing. Thanks.

Hi,

i'm also looking to find a Full HD 40-42 inch screen.
Now I've found a promotion with the THD-42PF82 for a nice price and 5 years warranty. But I can't find any information about this type. With what version can i compare it? The PZ80? 85?

I hope that there are some people who can help me out.
and by the way, is a 5 year warranty something worth thinking about or is it more of a salles trick?

Greetz.
N.

PS Forgive me for my terrible englisch..

five months ago i purchased a TH-50PZ700A Panasonic plasma Viera tv unit. After several hours of use it has this terrible hot smell coming out of it, there dosnt seem to be any problem with the set apart from the smell, it gets that strong that it gives me a headache, has anybody had this problem.

five months ago i purchased a TH-50PZ700A Panasonic plasma Viera tv unit. After several hours of use it has this terrible hot smell coming out of it, there dosnt seem to be any problem with the set apart from the smell, it gets that strong that it gives me a headache, has anybody had this problem.

Well, there's two possibilities:
- You have a component burning out. That means the set will eventually fail.
- Something fell into the set and is burning. That may or may not cause a problem in the long run (depends what it was and what it fell onto).

Either way you may want to have it checked out.

I just got my 46 inch Pz80 and I noticed something very strange. I put all settings on 50 for the break-in period and I noticed that after 30 mins I was motion sick. Also all images look a little blurry when moving. I tried a DVD, HD TV, SD TV, different cables, HDMI and composit. Also tried different settings with no luck. It still happens. The tv is only 6 hours old but it is very strange and hard to watch. However the images with little movement look great. I sit about 10ft away.

Any ideas what this could be or what I can do?

Cheat Sheet - Panasonic Plasma 2010 Consumer Model Summary
* In contradistinction to the Professional models

I don't understand why it is so hard to just find a nice concise SUMMARY of all Panny models. So instead of kvetching about it here is a quick summary in case anyone is trying to sort out all the various models and how they are different.

* References:
http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/us2010/product/comparison_plasma.html
http://panasonic.net/avc/viera/us2010/index.html

* Detailed description of various Models
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17866062#post17866062

Sorted from most features to least features


Series Sizes Example Res. 3D HDMI NeoPDP $MSRP Lines
VT25 50,54,58,65 TC-P65VT25 1080 Yes 4 Yes $xxxx 1080
GT25 42,50 TC-P50G25 1080 Yes 3 Yes $xxxx 1080
G 42,46,50,54 TC-P42G10 1080 no 3 Yes $ xxx 1080
S2 42,46,50,54,58,65 TC-P50S2 1080 no 3 Yes $ xx 1080
U2 42,50 TC-P50U2 1080 no 3 no $ x 900
C2 42,46,50 TC-P50C2 768 no 2 no $ x 720


Buyer Beware: Check the Native resolution AND "Moving Picture Resolution" !!!

Notes:
* Lines = Moving Picture Resolution
* All TVs have Component input x2, Digital Audio x1

Q. Black Level Measurements / Issues
* http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1167339
* http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=18241984&postcount=3467

Q. How/Where do I check the manufacture/build date?
* Its on a sticker attached to the back of the plasma. (Thanks Guerillah)
* You can check the date without opening the box. Just pull out the gray tab on the back of the box (it secures the stand) and shine a flashlight up in there. (Thanks MakoCSH)

Q. How does the S2 compare to the G25?
A. TL;DR The consensus is that the G25 has better PQ then the S2, along with THX and a tad higher price.
* http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1284948
* http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1282416
* http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1284207

* Uber Links - Calibration 12th generation
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=17210257#post17210257

Q. Are floating blacks still an issue?
A. Yes, with the 2010 consumer models and pre 2009 models. *sigh*. V25 is not as bad as the G20/G25.
One of the common test scenes is "The Matrix" blu-ray -- where Trinity is running from the agents; she rolls down the stairs and points her gun up at the window. Black levels reported to shift multiple times.
There have been no reported problems with the professional models.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1236475

Q. Does a firmware upgrade help?
A. There have been no noticeable differences, sadly. For more information see the model specific threads.

Q. Movie playback - 48Hz or 60 Hz?
A. Some have reported flicker at 48 Hz. The recommended solution is to use 60 Hz.

Q. Difference the G and S series panels?
A. (Thanks fatuglyguy)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=19418048#post19418048

they use different panels. the G series uses the "infinite black" 5mil:1 CR neoPDP panels, while the S series uses the standard 2mil:1 CR NeoPDP panels. The biggest difference is that the G series bonds the AR filter directly to the panel and thus it uses only a single pane of glass, like pioneer kuro or last year's panny Z1. The S series uses a very annoying double pane and to my eyes, just doesnt have the pop, black level, or color definition that the G series has. Check them out in person and judge for yourself. Most people would agree that the G series is definitely worth the extra cash. Either way, both offer a tremendous value for the money, and a TV like the G series Panasonic have pq far beyond what you pay for them.

Read it! Thanks!

Is there a thread that exists to help people make a tv purchase that is right for them?

Hello, I am looking for the link to the site that had the history of changes to the Panasonic Professional Series plasmas. Anybody got it handy?

Thanks!

Is there a thread that exists to help people make a tv purchase that is right for them?

Could you clarify your question please? Do you mean between the different display types: LCD/LED, Plasma, Projector? Or given a specific display type (plasma :cool: ) which brand to go with?

Usually it is best to give a budget amount up front, what type of PQ you have in mind, how you plan on viewing (movies/games), and viewing condition (day/night) so people can give their opinion...

Hope this helps.

Does anybody know bruzzi, I think he was the one with the list of Panasonic Pro models changes through the years.

I clicked on this thread to read the FAQ. Good job putting one together! :) However, the choice of colors is unreadable (at least to me). Guess I'll look for information elsewhere...

IDRick,
Did you go down to the very bottom of the page (left side) and see if "AVSForum.com Default" is selected.

Kenabb,

Yes. AVSForum.com Default" is selected. The regular forums are very readable but when I click on the FAQ, the colors are yellow, pink, purple, light blue, navy blue, etc. The combinations of colors is very hard on the eyes and therefore difficult to read. I can read it but the present format is very annoying and headache inducing. Thanks for taking a look. :)

I've got a Panasonic G25 and have been unsatisfied with the internet content they provide. The company also doesn't seem to care too much about promoting it...won't even come out with Netflix capability (unless you live in the States...sadly I'm from Canada;-)) Any suggestions on ways to get internet content onto my G25??

Kenabb,

Yes. AVSForum.com Default" is selected. The regular forums are very readable but when I click on the FAQ, the colors are yellow, pink, purple, light blue, navy blue, etc. The combinations of colors is very hard on the eyes and therefore difficult to read. I can read it but the present format is very annoying and headache inducing. Thanks for taking a look. :)

Try going to your browser 'View' menu item, select 'Page style' from the drop-down menu and then select 'No style'. It appears this disables style sheets and the page ends up with standard text on a white background. This worked for me with my Mac and Firefox. Otherwise, whoa...

Now, off to read the FAQ :)

Got a "link can't be found" error when clicking the FAQ. Forgive me for not investigating further, just giving a heads up.

I was in a local BJs Brewhouse recently and saw a huge Panasonic plasma over the bar that had 4 programs on the screen at the same time. Didn't get close enough to determine the size or ask about the model number. Does anyone know which model in the Panasonic line this might be? I've tried the Panasonic website without much luck.

I was in a local BJs Brewhouse recently and saw a huge Panasonic plasma over the bar that had 4 programs on the screen at the same time. Didn't get close enough to determine the size or ask about the model number. Does anyone know which model in the Panasonic line this might be? I've tried the Panasonic website without much luck.

I think that it must be 65 inches panasonic probably GT25 or VT25 made in the year 2010.
Here is a link to panasonic plasma website but you will find only the 2011 models in the link given below !

http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/VIERA-Televisions/VIERA-Plasma-HDTVs.list.170044_11002_7000000000000005702

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX57AHXtYJs


i.e All the plasmas seen in the above link is VT30 & GT30.

But i feel newer tv's are always better than the previous year model,since the company R&D always incoperate some new things or rectify some minor bugs seen in old models.

By the way if you happen to visit that bar again,you can ask the bar manager,since it could be even 60 or 55 inches model too,one cannot just predict as to what size plasma you have seen there....

Love,
kris.

Hi,
Reading alot here, thanks for the posted cheat sheet specs. I'm looking for a 46" plasma, [bigger than that might overwhelm my space] and I would appreciate current info on this size, mainly any inherent problems.
leaning toward a panny. I realize any model and any size can be a lemon, but would hate to be on intimate terms with CS or the repair tech. I have read about "buzzing" noise", board failure, PS failure, the dreaded " blink of death"[ which I now have on my sony crt which is 6 years old] "FB" and the list goes on.[ on all sizes and models] I realize I will have to pull the trigger at some point [ probably sooner than later, as the crt is not going to heal itself] but is there any one with a 46 that is really happy?
How do I get the 5 year warranty? Do I have to purchase directly from panasonic for that?
Or is the smarter thing just go cheap and treat as a throw-away?
Please post any opinion/info you have.
I would be really gratefull!
If you have a 46, talk to me!

thanks,
tvaddicted

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This sticky should be "un-stickied"! because over half the the links of The Official Plasma Forum: FAQ Thread don't work!
What good is that? a waste of time.
It was last updated years ago too:
Last edited by BruZZi; 12-06-09