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balazer 05-10-06, 03:28 PM MyHD supports fast forward and rewind for null-stripped files. This functionality was added some time back. The only problem is that the fast forward and rewind jump increments are not accurate for null-stripped files. But that is no problem, from a usability standpoint.
I guess I need to update the software. What version supports skipping on null stripped files? John
balazer 05-10-06, 03:46 PM Last year sometime. I don't remember.
Brajesh 05-11-06, 11:59 AM Hope someone can help. I've only skimmed this rather large thread, so I apologize if what I'm about to ask has already been answered. I'm thinking of switching from Comcast to Dish for HD recording. Would this plan work?
Purchase the ViP 211 and have it modded by Nextcom
Get the Dish Bronze HD package w/HBO, Cinemax, etc. From Dish's website, it looks like you don't get any extra HD channels w/Silver or Platinum
Record mpeg2-HD and mpeg4-HD to PC
Playback both filetypes via a networked Snazzio-type player directly off PC or copied to DVD to playback off Snazzio
Basically, I'm trying to do away with D-VHS and store hi-def content on PC and DVDs. Comcast is good, but they don't have HDNet Movies, which I really want.
Record mpeg2-HD and mpeg4-HD to PC
Playback both filetypes via a networked Snazzio-type player directly off PC or copied to DVD to playback off Snazzio
I think the problem you will have today is that none of the networked video players support H.264. The MPEG-4 support they have is for MPEG-4.2, not MPEG-4.10 (H.264). That support will be available when players built around the Sigma Designs EM8622L are available. Sigma Designs' website says the EM8620 family supports H.264, but they also call the EM8622L an "upgrade" to support H.264.
Until then you'll have to transcode offline to another format, or play it back on your PC.
For MPEG-2 files you're set. Your biggest problem will be building a system with enough storage. I blew past the 2 and 3TB marks pretty quickly and now I'm having to consider using higher density storage (500GB and 750GB hard drives) rather than the 300GB drives that have a much lower cost per GB. I've been paying $0.33/GB for 300GB drives (no rebates, no limits), but $0.46/GB is the cheapest I've seen for the 500GB drives.
HDTVFanAtic 05-11-06, 01:46 PM Also, fwiw, Dish does not have Cinemax in HD at this time.
Brajesh 05-11-06, 02:59 PM Okay, that's very helpful, thanks. Is transcoding MPEG-4.10 (H.264) to MPEG-4.2 or MPEG-2 possible? I assume so. Do you need a PC w/a lot of horsepower? I have a P4-3Ghz w/1GB RAM. Thanks.
Okay, that's very helpful, thanks. Is transcoding MPEG-4.10 (H.264) to MPEG-4.2 or MPEG-2 possible? I assume so. Do you need a PC w/a lot of horsepower? I have a P4-3Ghz w/1GB RAM. Thanks.
You'd just be decompressing the original, and re-encoding with a different codec (hopefully one supported by your standalone network media player), so yeah, with the right software you can do it.
You can get a free MPEG-4.2 codec at www.xvid.org. Actually, you can only get source there, you'll have to Google for a compiled version with an installer.
You could probably encode with MPEG-2 at close to real-time speeds with CinemaCraft Encoder Basic, but of course your files would be much larger.
To decode the H.264, get the free codec from http://developers.videolan.org/x264.html
This comparison might be interesting: http://www.xile.net/xvid_vs_x264/
Brajesh 05-11-06, 08:14 PM Interesting stuff, thanks.
Techtom 05-11-06, 09:18 PM You'd just be decompressing the original, and re-encoding with a different codec (hopefully one supported by your standalone network media player), so yeah, with the right software you can do it.
You could probably encode with MPEG-2 at close to real-time speeds with CinemaCraft Encoder Basic, but of course your files would be much larger.
Realtime MPEG-2 encode is possible for SD content, but not for HDTV (1080i is 6x the resolution). Also without hardware support (e.g Nvidia 6xxx, ATI 1600) you can't do HD h.264 playback in real time. Converting a HD h.264 to MPEG-2 is going to take a while, but even if it is 12x, it would only take a day to re-encode a 2hr movie.
Techtom
R5000-HD 05-17-06, 11:34 AM The "special version" DVRs are now available in full release form. Download. (http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/support_download.htm#Special%20versions)
The first version supports the SageTV network encoder option. The multi-instance DVR supports running up to 4 DVRs and simultaneous recordings. The newset PVR (version 2.4a) must be used to properly handle conflict resolutions with multiple tuner setups. This PVR automatically senses the DVR version (single or multi-instance) and adjusts its operation accordingly.
The Multi-Instance DVR also supports SageTV.
Instructions: (Additional fees apply) Download the desired version. After purchasing, please e-mail the serial numbers of all owned* R5000-HD devices to technical support so the appropriate key(s) can then be issued.
*Multiple keys only issued to original owner. Note that while only one device/key combination is required to use the software, it must be connected to the PC while the DVR is in operation. For example, if you own 2 devices with serial numbers 100123X and 100456Y and a key is only requested for 100123X, then 100123X MUST be connected in order for the software to operate.
-R
R5000-HD 07-26-06, 11:46 AM New versions of the DVR and PVR have been posted in the Support (http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/support.htm) ->Download area. The DVR (r5000hd.exe) is available as a zip file but the PVR can only be updated by using the installer, which is the recommended method to update both files simultaneously.
Version 2.4f of the DVR corrects the problem of the OTR not decrementing. Devices with serial numbers ending in a "D" suffix will be required to use this version (or greater).
Version 2.4b of the PVR addresses events disappearing from the listbox when sorted (mainly events with identical start times for multi-instance DVR).
-R
R5000-HD 08-16-06, 02:58 PM The pre-modifed Dish ViP211 units are on sale for $200 off the regular price of $900.00 ($700 + s/h). The sale will run at least until the end of the month of August with a 30 day target.
The "169time Upgrade" offer will expire on September 15, 2006. Anyone thinking of upgrading their 169time setup to the R5000-HD should take advantage of this special now. Please don't wait and ask us if we can still offer it 6 months from now!
Details and ordering information is on our sales (http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/sales.htm) page. Thanks.
-R
R5000-HD 10-09-06, 06:00 PM Updated versions of the DVR and PVR software are available in the beta section of the download area.
Version 2.4g of the DVR removes the limit of 4 R5000-HD USB devices on a single PC (the multi-instance version still limits simultaneous captures to a max. of 4). The problem of muxing the incorrect audio or SAP with Dish 211 and 622 systems has been addressed. Fixed not finding program in certain cable streams. OTR code changes.
Version 2.4c of the PVR removes 4 device limit (matches 2.4g DVR).
Version 1.1a Disk2Tape utility fixes display of "99%" when the transfer is actually complete.
-R
R5000-HD 10-24-06, 02:03 PM Three Dish 6000 units modified with the R5000-HD are available. All units are in very good shape and tested to be 100% functional. The R5000-HD modification carries the full 12 month warrantee. With 8PSK tuner, access card and remote. One unit available with OTA tuner.
Price Special: $500.00. ($550 for 8VSB unit). While supplies last, no substitutions. You are getting a complete setup ready for activation for the price of the modification only!
Details and ordering information (http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/sales.htm#Modified%20STB)
R5000-HD 12-12-06, 05:01 PM All R5000-HD Modifications are now 10% off plus free return shipping (ground only). Orders must be received before Jan. 1, 2007. Does not apply to pre-modified receivers. See sales page (http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/sales.htm) for details.
-R
Any updates on whether FIOS box modifications will be possible?
HDTVFanAtic 12-13-06, 05:43 AM Any updates on whether FIOS box modifications will be possible?
How can they be when all have 5c firewire ports?
timecop 12-13-06, 07:50 AM Modifying a unit with 5C protected output would be illegal under DMCA and/or some other 4-letter acronym.
gridleak 12-14-06, 01:56 AM Modifying a unit with 5C protected output would be illegal under DMCA and/or some other 4-letter acronym.It's a shame. Otherwise, we could send our Dtheater tape machines in to Nextcom for mod, and make some fine additions to our media servers.
HDTVFanAtic 12-14-06, 04:01 AM There's a reason why Nextcom doesn't allow you to take the encrypted programming off a ViP622 Hard Drive that is already there - only to record it in real time - and I seriously doubt its an engineering/technical issue.
timecop 12-14-06, 06:15 AM It's a shame. Otherwise, we could send our Dtheater tape machines in to Nextcom for mod, and make some fine additions to our media servers.
I'll sell you a modded r5000 that does that for 4x the price
</joke>
R5000-HD 01-02-07, 12:13 PM Beta versions of the DVR and PVR applications are available in the download area (http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/support_download.htm#Beta). The version 2.5b DVR adds some additional options for SageTV like the "4DTV surf mode". Channel changing times have been tightened. Stream information now displayed on main dialog. Fixes address possible MPEG-2/H.264 falsing and OTA recording problems on Dish 211 receivers.
-R
shanewalker 01-04-07, 04:49 PM Hdtv2mpeg2 has not supported changing .ts to mpeg2 for several years. Some report it still works, though most report it doesn't.
The name of the program is changing to TSEdit to reflect what it really does.
Most likely you will need something like VideoRedo to convert from .ts to .mpeg
Forgive the newb inquiry, but my 622 DVR is in transit for its R5000-HD mod and I'm trying to get all my system 'ducks in a row' so I'm ready when it returns to my hot little hands.
So I have a few fundamental questions:
1) FILE CONVERSION/PLAYBACK: What software do I need for .TS to MPEG-2 conversion? I looked up VideoRedo and it doesn't explicitly advertise its .TS conversion abilities--is it the recommended choice? And what would you suggest to make the resultant files MCE '05/extender "friendly". Ideally, I'd like to be able to turn recordings into movies that I can play back on my 360 or stream through its MCE interface from a remote PC.
2) .TS-TO-DVHS ARCHIVING: I currently have a new Toshiba Qosmio laptop which I'll be initially using to do the recordings. Question is what to use to export to D-VHS for tape playback/archiving. I have a couple of Mac laptops also. Will the Nextcom software bundle provide all that is necessary for reliable export to D-VHS? Or will a Mac-based solution prove more robust, even if the hardware isn't as powerful (G4-based vs. Dual Core)? My Toshiba has a 4-pin Firewire port...is that an issue at all?
Thanks in advance. I'm quite excited to join the R5000 user ranks. I can't wait to build up my HD library with it.
balazer 01-04-07, 05:34 PM 1) FILE CONVERSION/PLAYBACK: What software do I need for .TS to MPEG-2 conversion?What do you mean by this? .ts means MPEG-2 transport stream. These days there are lots of applications that play .ts files. Do you have a specific need to convert?
shanewalker 01-04-07, 08:03 PM Will Media Center 2005 play back .TS files? Its the ideal of using my Harmony remote and picking a file from the MCE browser on my XBox 360 that drives my inquiry. That's why I figured a conversion to a WM9-friendly MPEG-2 file would be necessary.
docchak 01-05-07, 03:42 AM Will Media Center 2005 play back .TS files? Its the ideal of using my Harmony remote and picking a file from the MCE browser on my XBox 360 that drives my inquiry. That's why I figured a conversion to a WM9-friendly MPEG-2 file would be necessary.
yes, you have to first install a small program called "HDPUMP" onto your MCE2005
shanewalker 01-05-07, 10:19 AM yes, you have to first install a small program called "HDPUMP" onto your MCE2005
That's great to hear. If it saves me the hassle of transcoding, all the better. I assume that this app install needs to happen on my 'base' PC only and not on the extender (360) as well? I'm also assuming that this particular solution ONLY applies to MPEG-2 .TS files, not H.264. That being the case, is there another similar solution/add-on program that will allow playback of MPEG-4 streams through MCE as well?
shanewalker 02-04-07, 04:06 PM Anyone having/have had issues recording HBOHD on E* via TitanTV scheduled recording? I've had a couple of recordings go awry the last few days...whether this is coincidence or not, I'm not sure, but both were of original trilogy Star Wars films. The recordings went off fine, and are labelled as the films they were set to record, but appear to be recordings off of HBO SD channels.
Is this an HBOHD issue, a TitanTV issue, or perhaps some Star Wars specific copy protection of some sort that balks the recording?
To reitereate--I've done several successful recordings, a number of them done during the same time period (a few hours earlier/later, but same day) but on other channels, which have gone off perfectly.
DirecTV R5000-HD recorded Star Wars just fine on HBOHD. Using Sage's EPG guide from wherever it comes from.
If you're not using Sage and have lots of harddrive space, I highly recommend it. Sage itself doesn't use harddrive space, but the amount of recording I do now has skyrocketed. SageTV's program guide is so much faster to scan channels and set up/resolve recording options (although I used Zap2IT at the time).
Mark (I don't work for Sage or Nextcom)
shanewalker 02-05-07, 04:22 PM Mark--
I bought the Sage option for the R5000-HD when I purchased the mod/system, but I haven't purchased the Sage package yet. I wanted to see how the TitanTV worked out first, and what my recording workflow/habits would be once I had the system in place. I plan on getting a dedicated HTPC to eventually manage all of this, but for now I'm using a combination of PC/Mac laptops for recording and D-VHS archiving in two seperate rooms/HT setups.
I'm hoping to problem solve this, get the TitanTV kinks worked out, and then maybe go Sage somewhere down the line...nice to know it works/is a real upgrade, though.
UPDATE: I did a test record through TitanTV of a program on HBO-HD last night. Didn't change a thing in my setup (hardware/software). Recorded the program just fine. Wondering, did TitanTV tweak something on their end in the last 36 hrs? Ideas?
I'm guessing the nextcom website is just down?
Works for me.
http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/home.htm
Home of the R5000 High-Definition TV PVR
weird. it is working now. maybe they'll answer my tech support email? :eek:
I am having a problem with the R5000HD which I am hoping people here can assist with.
I have been using this for a while with great success. However, the other day I decided to rebuild my HTPC, wiped the system clean and did a complete reinstall. Now, whenever the PVR app tries to communicate with TitanTV, it crashes. It also drops about 5 tmp files into its own directory at that time as well (extension TVPI if I remember).
I initially though it was a conflict with either Ghost or IE7, so I uninstalled both of these, however they made no difference. Program is fine until it attempts to contact TitanTV. I know the hardware works fine, as it was prior to the rebuild - I am ust figuring that there is a conflict somewhere I am unaware of.
I see that some people have run into this before (through my own research) but I find no solution on-line. I am running MCE 2005 as the OS.
Can anyone help!
I am not sure it will help your problem. But every once in a while I need to delete the default.pvr file to get the PVR to work properly.
John
Deleted the Default.PVR file - in fact did not have one when the crash occurs.
However, I "may" have it licked. Seems I had to set up a new account in TitanTV. The original one must have been sending data that the system could not handle. I am going to contact Netcom and see what they can deduce.
Anyone know a phone number for Nextcom? I haven't received a reply via email or an email sent from AVS PM. Maybe on vacation?
Rick,
I don't know if this is good news for you, but I emailed Nextcom last week and got a reply the very next day from someone named David. Sorry, I don't have a phone number for them.
Dish 6000 R5000 users,
I'd like to find out if anyone is having trouble getting a good satellite signal level. My account was down for awhile, and when I got it back up and running, my 942 found the sats just fine, but my 6000 can't see the sats, and doesn't recognize the switch after the check switch test. When the unit is turned on, a screen stays up that says " searching for the satellite signal, please wait". In the menu, the signal bar is red with no markers for level. A Dish tech came out, hooked up a more updated receiver into the same cable(although it was SD), and it saw the sats just fine. They are saying that my receiver is bad, and offered a replacement/exchange....yeah, right.
An AVS buddy let me borrow his extra unmodded 6000, which was working fine the last time he used it. It doesn't see the sats at my house either. His house is wired with the newer hd dish and switch box, so he can't test it for me. Nextcom suggested that I swap the modules between the two, but that gave me no results. Finally, I took both units over to another buddy's house today, and he has the same dish/box as me. Not one of my 6000s saw the sats. Has Dish done something that has disabled all the 6000s out there? I think it is highly unlikely that both 6000s are bad. Please help.
Dish 6000 R5000 users, I'd like to find out if anyone is having trouble getting a good satellite signal level. My account was down for awhile, and when I got it back up and running, my 942 found the sats just fine, but my 6000 can't see the sats, and doesn't recognize the switch after the check switch test. My Dish 6000 is working fine right now. I am using a DP-44 switch and a legacy adapter. The legacy adapter should throretically not be necessary, but I need it for the Dish 6000 to work. Go figure.
Thanks Steve,
Would your adapter and switch setup work for my 6000 as well as the 942 dvr? If so, maybe I should try that.
Any other 6000 users want to pipe in? What dish/box/adapter setups are you using?
HDTVFanAtic 02-22-07, 02:25 PM Is sure sounds like all the sudden you are using Dish Pro and not legacy lnbs and switches.
mkerdman 02-22-07, 02:27 PM Quote:
Originally Posted by jedi35
Dish 6000 R5000 users, I'd like to find out if anyone is having trouble getting a good satellite signal level. My account was down for awhile, and when I got it back up and running, my 942 found the sats just fine, but my 6000 can't see the sats, and doesn't recognize the switch after the check switch test.
My Dish 6000 - R5000-HD setup works just fine too.
Thanks Steve,
Would your adapter and switch setup work for my 6000 as well as the 942 dvr? If so, maybe I should try that.
Any other 6000 users want to pipe in? What dish/box/adapter setups are you using?The DP-44 switch is Dishpro Plus equipment. I believe that 942 is Dishpro Plus compatible, but you’ll have to check. There is no reason why a 942 should not work with a DP-44 switch one way or another.
It’s a bit more complicated and expensive mixing legacy equipment and Dishpro and Dishpro Plus LNBF’s and switches, so you would have to think carefully whether you want to make changes. I received the DP-44 switch and the legacy adapter as part of an upgrade to Dish 622 and 211 receivers, while keeping my old R5000/ Dish 6000 receiver in service. My old legacy LNBF’s and switches seemed to be a bit more finicky with my Dish 6000, but the DP-44 and the legacy adapter has worked consistently well for seven months now.
Murray,
What's your dish/box setup?
Steve and HDTVFanAtic,
I just did a check, and now know that my 942 is connected to Dishpro Plus equipment. It's listed as DPP Twin on the check switch screen, but I don't know if it's the DP-44. I don't remember exactly, but I think the 6000 is connected to the SW4 or SW64 switch. I called Dish back, and got a guy who sounds pretty reasonable. He agreed that it's unlikely that 2 6000s have gone bad in my setup. I was also able to get him to agree that the Dishpro Plus equipment might be functioning well, and the Legacy stuff is acting up. He's sending out another tech on Monday, and he's not charging me, since I already had a recent service call. This time, the tech will check the LNBs, and switches, and run more tests(like the first guy should have).
Dish 6000 R5000 users,
I'd like to find out if anyone is having trouble getting a good satellite signal level. My account was down for awhile, and when I got it back up and running, my 942 found the sats just fine, but my 6000 can't see the sats, and doesn't recognize the switch after the check switch test.
My 6000 regularly gets wedged, once every month or two. A power-cycle (pull the cord) and/or pulling and reinserting the access card gets it going again. First time this happened I thought it was the cabling and spent HOURS checking and reconfiguring cables to try to fix the problem to no avail. Then I tried pulling the power cord and everything came up fine after I plugged it back in. From then on pulling the power cord is the first thing I try.
jhue,
Thanks, but I've done that several times. Dish needed me to check that first before they scheduled a service call. There have been occasions in the past when unplugging the unit got it going again, but it seems that I'm into something else now. Remember that I also had to unplug it in order to take it over to a buddy's house. I've tried pulling out the access card once, but I don't remember if the power was on or off. Which did you try?
HDTVFanAtic 02-22-07, 11:45 PM Murray,
What's your dish/box setup?
Steve and HDTVFanAtic,
I just did a check, and now know that my 942 is connected to Dishpro Plus equipment. It's listed as DPP Twin on the check switch screen, but I don't know if it's the DP-44. I don't remember exactly, but I think the 6000 is connected to the SW4 or SW64 switch. I called Dish back, and got a guy who sounds pretty reasonable. He agreed that it's unlikely that 2 6000s have gone bad in my setup. I was also able to get him to agree that the Dishpro Plus equipment might be functioning well, and the Legacy stuff is acting up. He's sending out another tech on Monday, and he's not charging me, since I already had a recent service call. This time, the tech will check the LNBs, and switches, and run more tests(like the first guy should have).
The 6000 cannot work with DishPro equipment without an adapter on it right before it enters the 6000.
Thus, it sounds like you do not have an adapter on the equipment.
Thats why the 942 and newer equipment works and the older equipment like the 6000 doesnt.
HDTVFanAtic,
I have enjoyed watching my 6000 for atleast a year with my current setup. The 6000 is not trying to work from a direct connection to the newer eq. It's set up to see a different switchbox. In fact, there are separate lines that comes off the dish arrangement and into my house for the 942 and the 6000. This isn't a situation where the same line is split for both boxes. When the 6000 was working, the check switch test came back and told me that I have the SW64 switch, or something like that(not the DPP Twin that the 942 reports).
I use an SW64 with my 6000. It has an external power supply connected connected to an insertion box that goes between the receiver and the switch. If the power supply failed or became unplugged the receiver would not get a signal. Also once in a while I need to briefly unplug the power supply to reset the switch to get it to work properly.
John
John,
Thanks very much. It sounds like there are quite a few things that could go wrong and cause the 6000 not to get a signal. I'm surprised that Dish wasn't interested in checking more things out when they were here last time. There isn't anything like a power supply or an insertion box(I'm just a little weirded out by saying this) on my line that I can get to. I'm guessing that all this is up on the roof near the dishes, and I actually don't have a ladder. Dish will be out again next week to check it out right. Is your insertion box inside your house?
HDTVFanAtic 02-23-07, 03:11 PM HDTVFanAtic,
I have enjoyed watching my 6000 for atleast a year with my current setup. The 6000 is not trying to work from a direct connection to the newer eq. It's set up to see a different switchbox. In fact, there are separate lines that comes off the dish arrangement and into my house for the 942 and the 6000. This isn't a situation where the same line is split for both boxes. When the 6000 was working, the check switch test came back and told me that I have the SW64 switch, or something like that(not the DPP Twin that the 942 reports).
The problem is, if your 942 is reporting a DPP Twin, thats Dish Pro....and the SW64 won't work with a Dish Pro DPP Twin.
So it sounds like the installer replaced the DPP Twin LNB....from the old Legacy LNB.
Unless you have 2 different dishes both pointing at the same satellites, then this appears to be what happened.
That's why I said earlier:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=9848575&&#post9848575
If you are using the SW64 there is a power supply pluged into an AC outlet so it's probably not on the roof. My cable goes into the basement which is where the power supply and inserter are. It puts out about 24 volts so the power comming from the receiver is insufficient to run the SW64.
John
HDTVFanAtic,
I'll have to assume that you are correct because I just don't know enough about Dish installations. However, don't you think it's strange that Dish came out about a year ago and successfully installed my 6000? Well actually, they just set things up and ran the cable to the right spot. I pretended that I didn't have the 6000 yet, because I didn't want them to see that my unit had the R5000 mod. When I first brought the 6000 home, my Dish setup was only for the 942, so I only had the DPP Twin switch. I unplugged the cable feeding my 942 and hooked it up to the 6000. What you're saying is that I shouldn't have gotten a signal, but in fact I did. I didn't know it, but the DPP Twin gave the 6000 a signal, and thus began my R5000 recording days. Strange. Or perhaps what happened was that Dish came out and changed my 942 over to the DPP Twin and set up the SW64 for the 6000. I don't know.
When Dish came out, I simply moved the 6000 to a back room, and brought it back out when they were gone, and then I called up to have the account activated in my name. Before, the 6000 was still active on my buddy's account, so I still got his programming. Like I said before, you know more about this than me, I'm just reporting my own experience. My 6000 worked before Dish ran a line for it, and it worked after the line was run. The 6000 reported the SW64 switch, and the 942 still reports a DPP Twin switch.
I'll call Dish back and tell them what you said. They'll have to make sure that I have the proper LNBs/switches/adapters and all that stuff. For all I know, there is an adapter on the roof for the 6000 and I don't know about it. The installer didn't try to educate me about what he did. Thanks for trying to make things clear to me. You guys are great!!
John,
I just did another check, and there is nothing coming off my roof from my dishes but coax cables, and a grounding wire. I really don't see how my SW64 is getting power. Since you're sure that it needs power, I'll point this out to the tech when he comes out. Still, we have a real mystery here because no one has been able to explain why my 6000 has worked pretty well for a whole year in my current setup.
Since the newer receiver works on the cable you use for the 6000 receiver, it would seem that the other end is connected to DishPro equipment. If you had a legacy adaptor between the switch and receiver, the 6000 might have reported it as an SW64. Maybe the installer disconnect the cable from the legacy adaptor and went direct to the DishPro switch when your problem started.
John
HDTVFanAtic 02-23-07, 05:26 PM HDTVFanAtic,
I'll have to assume that you are correct because I just don't know enough about Dish installations. However, don't you think it's strange that Dish came out about a year ago and successfully installed my 6000? Well actually, they just set things up and ran the cable to the right spot. I pretended that I didn't have the 6000 yet, because I didn't want them to see that my unit had the R5000 mod. When I first brought the 6000 home, my Dish setup was only for the 942, so I only had the DPP Twin switch. I unplugged the cable feeding my 942 and hooked it up to the 6000. What you're saying is that I shouldn't have gotten a signal, but in fact I did. I didn't know it, but the DPP Twin gave the 6000 a signal, and thus began my R5000 recording days. Strange. Or perhaps what happened was that Dish came out and changed my 942 over to the DPP Twin and set up the SW64 for the 6000. I don't know.
When Dish came out, I simply moved the 6000 to a back room, and brought it back out when they were gone, and then I called up to have the account activated in my name. Before, the 6000 was still active on my buddy's account, so I still got his programming. Like I said before, you know more about this than me, I'm just reporting my own experience. My 6000 worked before Dish ran a line for it, and it worked after the line was run. The 6000 reported the SW64 switch, and the 942 still reports a DPP Twin switch.
I'll call Dish back and tell them what you said. They'll have to make sure that I have the proper LNBs/switches/adapters and all that stuff. For all I know, there is an adapter on the roof for the 6000 and I don't know about it. The installer didn't try to educate me about what he did. Thanks for trying to make things clear to me. You guys are great!!
John,
I just did another check, and there is nothing coming off my roof from my dishes but coax cables, and a grounding wire. I really don't see how my SW64 is getting power. Since you're sure that it needs power, I'll point this out to the tech when he comes out. Still, we have a real mystery here because no one has been able to explain why my 6000 has worked pretty well for a whole year in my current setup.
Think about it.....you moved the 6000 to a back room closet.
The Dish Installer came. He saw the adapter.....he thinks, no legacy receiver - he takes it out as there is no reason for it - only something else to go wrong.
He leaves.
You bring your 6000 out but now it won't work.
Seems pretty simple to me.
And btw, they dont care that the R5000 is connected. Just pull the usb plug and they will never notice it.
There is a reason they install DBS Equipment and aren't CSI Investigators.
I think both of you are misunderstanding me. The recent service call I had this month yielded absolutely no changes to my system. There is no adapter in my house to see. I didn't hide my 6000 in a back room this time. I did that a year ago when I first had a separate line run for the 6000. In my recent service call, the tech saw my 924, being fed by it's single line going into a separator to feed the 2 tuners, and the 6000 being fed by it's line. No adapter. If there is an adapter, it's up on the roof and I don't know about it. I don't even know what it should look like. I'm not saying it's not there, it's just that I can't get to it. BTW, does the adapter need a power source? If not, then that's the reason that I don't see a power feed. Perhaps my legacy adapter has simply gone bad.
The tech didn't install anything or take anything out(other than just connecting a replacement SD receiver into the line the feeds my 6000). When he saw that receiver fire up and find the satellites right away, he declared that my 6000 was dead without checking anything else. He told me that Dish was willing to take my 6000 and replace it with that same SD receiver. How do you like that?? I don't think they understood why I said no thanks.
As I stated above, the 6000 fired up, found the sats, and let me do R5000 recording the very first time I brought it home a year ago, even when all I had was the 942 setup. I can't explain it. The 6000 wasn't even activated on my account, it was on my buddy's. I needed to call Dish and have them run another line because I'd stolen the line from my 942 in order to feed the 6000. Somehow, the 6000 agreed with whatever the 942 was being fed with. Is it possible that my 942 had a legacy switch originally, that allowed my 6000 to work, and then Dish changed the 942 over to DPP when they came out to run the line for the 6000? Can a 942 run off legacy stuff? I haven't tried running the 942 off the line meant to feed my 6000. I'll see what happens. I've tried to be as clear as I can.
I should also say that I didn't just discover that my 6000 was no longer working after my recent service call. It hadn't been working for a few weeks, and that's the reason why I scheduled the call in the first place. My account was down for awhile and when I got it running again, the 942 woke up, but the 6000 didn't. Dish claims that my 6000 is activated for my account and they can't hit it with a refresh signal.
This is the adaptor. It uses an external power supply.
http://www.satelliteone.com/dish/store/accessories/legacy.html
Any possibility the cable was not connected to the connector on 8PSK adaptor module, not the old 4PSK or TV antenna input. I would guess that even with a Dishpro signal half the polarizations would be found by the 6000 after a switchcheck. Connect to the connector on the module being inserted into the back of the receiver in the picture.
John
John,
Thanks for the pics. I'm now certain that Dish did not provide me with an adapter. When you say "even with a Dishpro signal half the polarizations would be found by the 6000 after a switchcheck", does this mean that the 6000 will appear to function normally without the adapter? I'm sure that I've connected the Dish sat cable into the correct module. My buddy explained to me what all the modules and connectors are/were for. The old 4PSK connector is covered over by a metal flap. Bottom line, I think Dish has a lot of explaining to do.
This thread seems to be the best place to get an answer from r5000 users. When you want to burn an HD recordered show to an SD DVD, how do you do it? What software do you use and steps to do this? I have used videoredo to make it a .vob but I have no clue what software can either take the vob, or the native recordings and easily put it on a single DVD for a regular DVD Player.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Darin
John,
My friend provided me with the legacy power adapter that you showed me. Unfortunately, it didn't give me a sat signal. In fact, both of my 6000s acted strangely even before I connected the adapter, and this is something new. They both showed lots of wavy lines in the picture when powered up, and the menu colors are way off, like some major colors are missing. It's crazy that both units are acting this way. Well, Dish will be out tomorrow morning.
HDTVFanAtic 02-25-07, 07:23 PM you do realize that Dish does not repair 6000s any longer? If you have the protection plan, they replace them with a 811.
Yep, I'm not looking for Dish to repair my 6000. I never asked them to do that. They need to check my dishes, LNBs, switch, lines and stuff like that to be sure that something else isn't the cause of my problems. Nextcom has already agreed to swap the R5000 mod from one of the 6000s to the other, but there's no need to do that until I'm sure that my setup is correct and the spare 6000 is functioning properly.
OK, my original 6000 is back up and running, for the most part. And this is NOT due to the 2nd Dish service call that I just had a few days ago. They came out this time and did basically the same thing....checked my lines inside the house, got a good signal, swapped the lines between the 6000 and the 942, and declared the 6000 dead when the 942 powered up ok. After no luck with the second 6000, I was told that it had sat around too long not activated on someone's account, and had shut itself down. It would no longer have the right software, and wouldn't react to anything when plugged in. It's interesting that they refused to go through the trouble of getting up on the roof to check for proper connections and dish aiming. They said that the lines inside and the tests they ran told them everything they needed to know.
The night before Dish arrived, I swapped modules between the 2 6000s, connected the power adapter, and let the original 6000 sit while powered up overnight. The next morning, I got a faint signal level on one of the transponders, but not enough to lock in the sat. When Dish arrived, the signal seemed to get stronger and stronger on it's own, but I was told that the power adapter can give false readings, and even identify the wrong sats, so I shouldn't put any faith in it. Dish said that the reason I was never given the adapter was because the 6000, even though it was legacy eq., was designed to work with Dish Pro Plus gear. They say that it was a late generation legacy piece, and was the only one that would work with DPP. To explain further, I was told that the eye on my DPP dish contained circuitry that essentially did the same thing that the power adapter would do for legacy eq. Go figure, I'm just telling you all whet I was told. They removed the adapter, and I continued to get varying signal levels on one transponder. It eventually got up into the 80s, and the tech still said that my receiver was not good. After he left, I unplugged both the 6000 and the 942, plugged only the 6000 in, and let it sit for awhile after I powered it up. I wasn't patient enough to let this happen before(and probably wouldn't have called for the tech if I had). Eventually, the signal meter locked onto sat 110 West, and turned green. By this time, I was getting weak and strong signal levels on other transponders as well. I also got sat 119 to lock in properly. Sat 61.5 gave me high signal levels, but was incorrectly identified, so the signal bar stayed red. With 2 of the 3 sats safely locked in, I ran a new check switch test, and got successful results for those 2 sats. The switch was properly identified as SW64, as it was before all the problems started. I then tried to tune in a channel(101). I still had to wait awhile because it still said "searching for the satellite". A bit later, the picture popped in, and I was watching the 6000 again!!
I then pulled up the program guide, and noticed that nearly all my channels were in red, meaning that they were not a part of my subscription package, but they were ok on my 942. I called up Dish CS, and had them re-hit the 6000 for programming. I had to reset the 6000 again, and after awhile it came back up with the correct programming. So, this is where I am now. I can get 110 and 119 on the 6000, but for some reason it will not see 61.5, even though I get high signal levels for it. The 942 continues to work perfectly, and I'm not using a power adapter on the 6000, as before. It's so nice to be able to do R5000 recording again. I really missed it. I still need to bug the people at the Dish HD tech department to see if they can work any special magic and get my 6000 to correctly identify 61.5 and lock in.
I should also point out that the real turning point to all of this is when I swapped modules between the 2 6000s, and let it sit powered up overnight. I had done the swap before, but gave up right away when it didn't produce any good signal levels. My 6000 is quite slow now, and wants to think about things for awhile. Perhaps it is going bad, but I know for sure that it's not dead yet. The old module, however yields not results, no matter how long I wait. The second 6000 did wind up saving the first.
with the increasing availability of BluRay and HD-DVD is anyone find they are becoming less interested in recording/archiving DBS HD content with their R5000? Overall, the quality of DBS HD is less than the new HD disc formats and I'm beginning to question the point in archiving anything something that is less than the best quality.
I'm glad I have a few things on disc but for the most part I'm starting to wonder what's the point?
balazer 03-03-07, 02:54 PM Less interested, yes, but there are still thousands of movie titles on cable & satellite that you can't get on Blu-ray or HD-DVD.
Also, R5000 enables time shifting of TV content with SageTV. Maybe someday there'll be lots of TV content on Blu-ray for rental, but not yet.
Less interested, yes, but there are still thousands of movie titles on cable & satellite that you can't get on Blu-ray or HD-DVD.
Also, R5000 enables time shifting of TV content with SageTV. Maybe someday there'll be lots of TV content on Blu-ray for rental, but not yet.
I can time shift now with the VIP622 and if they ever make archival to an external USB drive a reality (not holding breath) the need for a R5000 becomes largely unnecessary except for the ability to playback a recording in a different location.
I agree with your statement about availability of titles but of the thousands shown on DBS how many are actually worth keeping? I have about 1TB of random stuff I've saved and I'm happy to have stuff like the Star Wars or LOTR series in HD but all it takes is seeing one of your recorded movies in HD-DVD or BluRay disc and you really start questioning the time/money/energy spent.
balazer 03-03-07, 04:04 PM For time shifting, it's a matter of flexibility. R5000 lets you use whatever storage media you want, as much of it as you want, and you can play back the recordings anywhere. If you don't require that flexibility, then the VIP622 is great for you.
Joseph Clark 03-03-07, 06:47 PM And there are some programs that may never end up on Blu-ray or HD DVD. I have the whole Rick Steves' Europe series on HD DVD from my R5000 captures, and I always end up playing them for people to show off the theater. (These were captures from before the time HDNet went Lite.)
And there are some programs that may never end up on Blu-ray or HD DVD. I have the whole Rick Steves' Europe series on HD DVD from my R5000 captures, and I always end up playing them for people to show off the theater. (These were captures from before the time HDNet went Lite.)
You're absolutely correct that there is content availabe to be archived from an R5000 that may never or a long time from being available on HD-DVD or BR disc but you bring up exact point I am trying to raise. As Directv and Dish move to MPEG4 will you really want to save anything? Hopefully StarzHD is not where everything is headed.
Joseph Clark 03-03-07, 08:11 PM You're absolutely correct that there is content availabe to be archived from an R5000 that may never or a long time from being available on HD-DVD or BR disc but you bring up exact point I am trying to raise. As Directv and Dish move to MPEG4 will you really want to save anything? Hopefully StarzHD is not where everything is headed.
Dish seems to have gotten its act together a little with MPEG4 encoding. Channels like HGTV and others that are MPEG4 seem cleaner and better now than when some of those new channels were MPEG2. If we can get H.264 to work in MovieFactory, we have a very good option for recording to SL and DL DVD's in HD DVD format. Even more films should fit on a DL disc than now.
I agree that once you see commercial HD DVD releases, the broadcasts don't always hold up well. For instance, I have Meet the Fockers on HD DVD and it's a lot better than the broadcast of Meet the Parents on satellite. OTOH, it's hard to imagine (for me, anyway) wanting to spend the money for HD discs of Star Wars II or III as compared to the HBO broadcasts. If I were a hard core Star Wars fan, I'd probably feel different about it. I'll always spend the money to get the best quality for films I really like.
I haven't tried anything with h.264 but its pretty cool what you can do with Ulead MF6. Any of my R5000 or MyHD content under ~8.2GB can be recorded as an HD-DVD on a regular DL-DVD. Even with null packets removed thats not many movies but its perfect for any TV shows. If h.264 does and there is no (significant) loss of PQ converting from mpeg2, that would be a great option as almost everything would fit on a DL-DVD.
Joe, thanks for the HD-DVD authoring thread in the other forum. While MF6 can almost do it all, your write-up definitely made the process easier.
Joseph Clark 03-03-07, 10:06 PM Thanks. Creating my own HD DVD's has been a lot of fun and it got me into HD DVD a lot sooner than I thought I would. We're waiting for the ability to add H.264 and AVC files to the process.
HDTVFanAtic 03-03-07, 10:12 PM Why in the heck would you want to save a TV show in mpeg4 at 1280x1080 or 1440x1080?
Another update, if anyone cares:
Yesterday I ran a check switch on the 6000 and got a successful reading on all 3 sats it's supposed to see. Yep, I got 61.5, but transponder 7 had such a low reading that I could only tune in 2 of the 10 Voom channels on that sat( Anima and Rave). I guess those 2 channels are on different transponders. I gathered from before that if I wait, the reception issue might improve, so I waited awhile. I was still getting all the other sat channels on 119 and 110. Later in the day, I tried things again, and found that the 6000 has lost all reception on everything again. How frustrating. Oddly, the 942 seemed to be still up and running.
Today, I got up and ran through a host of tests, including unplugging everything, hooking up the 6000, pulling out and reinserting the access card (and later) the module, and several check switch tests. The only thing I got was a few bars of signal on transponder 14, but mostly nothing. Next, I unplugged the 6000 and plugged the same sat cable into the 942, and something wonderful happened...the 942, for the first time, did NOT run a successful check switch test!! I ran this test a few times, and got the same results. I just disconnected that cable and plugged the 942's original cable in, and got the same errors. The sat 1 tuner input is the one giving errors on the 942, while sat 2 shows good. Still, the unit will not lock in and show any channels at this point. When I try to tune in to a channel, I get the same 015 searching for the sat signal screen that I get on the 6000. I'm actually happy about this, because if this continues, and Dish comes out and sees that my 942 is now having a problem, they'll be more inclined to want to get up on the roof and check the LNB, switchbox, ect. like they should have before. Next, I'll try unplugging the 942 and starting over.
HDTVFanAtic 03-04-07, 07:52 PM Not minimizing your issues, but does all this really belong in this thread?
Thanks for making me feel so welcome. I'm sure there's another thread somewhere with other owners of a 6000 with the R5000 mod, and I can get all the help I need there.
Thanks for making me feel so welcome. I'm sure there's another thread somewhere with other owners of a 6000 with the R5000 mod, and I can get all the help I need there.
While rather blunt and not the warm and fuzzy reception you are hoping for, HDTVFanAtic's point is valid as your issues are unrelated to the R5000 or HD recording. I might suggest you try one of the many Dishnetwork support forums
HDTVFanAtic 03-05-07, 04:05 AM Thanks for making me feel so welcome. I'm sure there's another thread somewhere with other owners of a 6000 with the R5000 mod, and I can get all the help I need there.
I've had a problem with a ViP211 for 3 months going to the Switch Error - run Check Switch Screen when it switches to a channel on the 110W satellite. This locks the unit up and prevents any future recording until I manually clear the error - but I am not flooding this thread with it.
WHY?
Because its a problem with Dish Legacy equipment and a newer DishPro STB.
As RTK noted, take it to a Dishnetwork thread on dbstalk and ask - you might find someone who cares.
HiTekAlex 03-21-07, 12:17 AM Maybe a silly question.. I am seriously considering doing R5000-HD mod on my Dish ViP 622 box..
However, I lease rather than own this STB, so wondering whether I am violating any Dish user agreement by moding this box? Do any of you who did R5000-HD conversion lease your boxes, or is it a bad idea?
Brajesh 03-21-07, 02:00 PM Probably. I have a leased ViP622 w/the mod. Don't tell Dish ;).
HDTVFanAtic 03-22-07, 04:02 AM The Company has said they will do the mod so it can be removed without any sign of it - for situations such as this.
Has anyone tried this mod on a Verizon FIOS box?
Thanks,
Mike
Ron Tobin 03-22-07, 11:54 AM Has anyone tried this mod on a Verizon FIOS box?
Thanks,
Mike
I have.
twitchee3 03-22-07, 02:44 PM I have.
I didn't think the R5000 was available for anything but E* or D*? Please explain?
Ron Tobin 03-22-07, 03:18 PM I didn't think the R5000 was available for anything but E* or D*? Please explain?
In addition to D* and E*, Nextcom can modify STBs for C Band, Canadian Bell Expressvu and Starchoice, as well as the DCT2000 Series Motorola STBs used by cable companies. Verizon uses the DCT2500, which can be modified, does not employ 5C and, at least in my area, the DCT2500, while not an HD STB, is capable of receiving and recording the HD stream with the R5000 modification.
For further information, check out this page on the Nextcom website.
http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/products.htm
Kirby Baker 03-22-07, 03:18 PM I didn't think the R5000 was available for anything but E* or D*? Please explain?
E*, D*, Expressvu, Star Choice, BUD, Motorola cable systems, Verizon FIOS.
twitchee3 03-22-07, 03:34 PM Ahhh, that's right, now i remember the criteria for R5000 HD mod. Non 5c enabled devices. Thanks for the clear up.
I had NEVER heard that HD content could be passed through a non HD receiver with the R5000 HD mod, nice work Ron ;)
Ron Tobin 03-22-07, 03:43 PM I had NEVER heard that HD content could be passed through a non HD receiver with the R5000 HD mod, nice work Ron ;)
The compliment should go to the folks at Nextcom for figuring it out, not me. But thanks.
Actually, Kirby may have been the first to have a Motorola DCT2500 modified, and that's at least a year ago. When you tune to an HD channel on a Verizon Fios STB, you get audio but no video. However, the audio and video is still present at the chip where the R5000 modification is attached. So while you can't see it on your TV, it can still be recorded.
twitchee3 03-22-07, 03:47 PM When you tune to an HD channel on a Verizon Fios STB, you get audio but no video. However, the audio and video is still present at the chip where the R5000 modification is attached. So while you can't see it on your TV, it can still be recorded.
VERY interesting.
Kirby Baker 03-22-07, 03:50 PM There is nothing magical about getting HD on the DCT 2xxx series. They were designed for it. Thats why they have the High Speed data port on the back, to interface with the Moto HDD-200 HD Video sidecar. If you can get the data port enabled (not an easy task probably) then you can hook it up to the HDD-200 and view HD from the DCT-2xxx.
And Ron, yes I think I had the first one :)
balazer 03-22-07, 03:57 PM I wasn't first?
Kirby Baker 03-22-07, 03:57 PM Did you test it?
Ron Tobin 03-22-07, 03:58 PM VERY interesting.
And I failed to mention that, as a former subscriber to both D* and E* (separate times) and having recorded via the Nextcom modification hundreds of hours of material from both, IMO the quality of the Verizon recordings blow away the satellite providers. Nothing is compressed and it's all full resolution material.
Ron Tobin 03-22-07, 04:01 PM I wasn't first?
Maybe there's a tie for first. :D
Kirby Baker 03-22-07, 04:02 PM Maybe there's a tie for first. :D
That'd be funny, because we are only 1.5 hours apart from each other... :D
twitchee3 03-22-07, 04:04 PM I understand it's not *magic* haha, i was simply unaware of the hardware features built into the Moto SD STB. Pretty sweet deal.
And Ron, you have no IDEA HOW MUCH i've wanted to hear from someone who had experience with E*, D*, and Fios HD. We currently have Time Warner Cable and are considering switching to either of these three providers, we were leaning towards a sat provider, but it's still up in the air.
Thanks guys :p
Ron Tobin 03-22-07, 04:08 PM And Ron, you have no IDEA HOW MUCH i've wanted to hear from someone who had experience with E*, D*, and Fios HD.
IMO, it's not even close. Verizon wins hands down. And their HD lineup is very similar to D*.
Kirby Baker 03-22-07, 04:09 PM Verizon should be a good solution until they run out of bandwidth. I believe they only use an 800 MHz system, so in some ways, they are lower bandwidth than some cable plants (like mine from what I know).
twitchee3 03-22-07, 04:27 PM The thing about Fios is that i'm worried about the HD DVR hardware in comparison to the hardware offerings by D* and E* with their HR20's and VIP 622's compared to the QIP 6416. Also, i love the E* HD lineup, compressed or not, as well as D*'s new infrastructure and supposed plans to dump up to 100 new HD networks on it by years end. I'm really not holding my breath for 100 HD networks though, but beating E*'s HD lineup would be cool.
Ron Tobin 03-22-07, 04:33 PM The thing about Fios is that i'm worried about the HD DVR hardware in comparison to the hardware offerings by D* and E* with their HR20's and VIP 622's compared to the QIP 6416. Also, i love the E* HD lineup, compressed or not, as well as D*'s new infrastructure and supposed plans to dump up to 100 new HD networks on it by years end. I'm really not holding my breath for 100 HD networks though, but beating E*'s HD lineup would be cool.
If you're referring to Voom on E*, they have a limited library and then go into major repeat. I've captured everything I could possibly want from Voom, and then the repeats began. Subtract Voom, and D*, E* and Verizon are not dissimilar.
As for the eqt., granted the DVRs are probably better from the satellite providers compared to the Motorola DVR, however get yourself an HD Tivo S3 with cable cards, and that beats the satellite providers. Yes, there are cost considerations.
latreche34 03-25-07, 02:55 AM This guy is selling his VIP 211 he must be crazy!! type Ebay item # 330102615832 in the search bar at ebay dot com
twitchee3 03-25-07, 02:56 AM This guy is selling his VIP 211 he must be crazy!! check here (http://cgi.*********/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=330102615832&rd=1&rd=1)
Your linky no worky :confused:
HDTVFanAtic 03-25-07, 06:44 AM Your linky no worky :confused:
Don't worry about it....at the price he wants (not to mention his feedback in the last 30 days), there is no reason to even go there.
Much better to purchase a new system from Nextcom than a second hand unit at nearly full price - especially if one expects any type of support.
Ron Tobin 03-25-07, 09:16 AM This guy is selling his VIP 211 he must be crazy!! type Ebay item # 330102615832 in the search bar at ebay dot com
If you are looking for a Dish Vip211/411 with the R5000 modification, I might know of someone who has a used one for sale, if it's not already gone. If so, post back here and I'll contact the seller, who is also an AVS Forum member.
Verizon should be a good solution until they run out of bandwidth. I believe they only use an 800 MHz system, so in some ways, they are lower bandwidth than some cable plants (like mine from what I know).
Verizon has plenty of bandwidth for anything. The reason is unlike cable, they do not spend any spectrum on analog channels. Hence compare to cable, the have anywhere from 400-500 Mhz of extra usable space... 800 Mhz is plenty if it's all digital.
thanks,
Mike
balazer 03-26-07, 02:28 PM How is FiOS's bandwidth limited to 800 MHz? On the fiber side, I'm sure they have a lot more than that. And on the coax side, they can used switched video, right?
Kirby Baker 03-26-07, 02:30 PM Verizon has plenty of bandwidth for anything. The reason is unlike cable, they do not spend any spectrum on analog channels. Hence compare to cable, the have anywhere from 400-500 Mhz of extra usable space... 800 Mhz is plenty if it's all digital.
thanks,
Mike
So are they doing the Digital to Analog conversion in the customer premise box? Because channels 2-49 are analog from what I am told.
Likewise, if a cable plant goes all digital, it has the same advantage as FIOS right? With the exception of cable modem bandwidth, and I will be the first to admit I have no idea how bandwidth is allocated for cable broadband.
Are all Moto STB's limited to a 860 Mhz tuner?
Kirby Baker 03-26-07, 02:34 PM If you are looking for a Dish Vip211/411 with the R5000 modification, I might know of someone who has a used one for sale, if it's not already gone. If so, post back here and I'll contact the seller, who is also an AVS Forum member.
That'd be mine listed in the For Sale forums here :), linky: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=809520
HDTVFanAtic 03-27-07, 01:53 AM How is FiOS's bandwidth limited to 800 MHz? On the fiber side, I'm sure they have a lot more than that. And on the coax side, they can used switched video, right?
They aren't.
Right now Verizon has ALLOCATED 860Mhz to TV - That does not mean its limited to that.
So are they doing the Digital to Analog conversion in the customer premise box? Because channels 2-49 are analog from what I am told.
Think about your question. FIOS has no way to do analog as analog will not go down fiber. If channels 2-49 are analog, its getting done at the residence.
Likewise, if a cable plant goes all digital, it has the same advantage as FIOS right? With the exception of cable modem bandwidth, and I will be the first to admit I have no idea how bandwidth is allocated for cable broadband.
Are all Moto STB's limited to a 860 Mhz tuner?
Cable must take Internet, TV, Phone etc out of their 750Mhz or 860Mhz - or whatever their system is built out to.
And again, that is only what they are ALLOCATING to TV right now.
I was speaking with one of the top fiber people in the Country several years ago and we were speaking of all the dark fiber (unused fiber) that was run years ago. I assumed it eventually it would be used as they reached bandwidth limits - but was quickly told that is not the case - it would never be used - because the amount of fiber in use across the Country now could handle anything ever thrown at it.
Obviously I questioned how that was possible - to which they told me that with changes in the lasers and technology they can continue to just upgrade the what the fiber would handle.
So, I don't know what FIOS has for TOTAL Bandwidth right now in their system, but I am sure it is very high.
And if there is an issue, they just move up to the newer laser technology along the way.
latreche34 03-28-07, 09:57 PM This guy is selling his VIP 211 he must be crazy!! type Ebay item # 330102615832 in the search bar at ebay dot com
Don't worry about it....at the price he wants (not to mention his feedback in the last 30 days), there is no reason to even go there.
Much better to purchase a new system from Nextcom than a second hand unit at nearly full price - especially if one expects any type of support.
If I would have to buy one I would buy it from him, it's brand new never been activated and he got only two - feedbacks from 2 sellers that seem they screwd him up.
No offence it's just my opinion.
HDTVFanAtic 03-29-07, 12:10 AM If I would have to buy one I would buy it from him, it's brand new never been activated and he got only two - feedbacks from 2 sellers that seem they screwd him up.
No offence it's just my opinion.
Wow, you scam the listing on this thread, you live in Oakland, the item on eBay is being sold from Oakland....what a coincidence ;)
As its obvious you are the seller, and if you click on the negatives in question, the item was purchased from Canada and it says they will RMA stuff automatically with an email - but clearly states it has to go back to them so I'd love to hear how the seller screwed him errr.....you - you just didn't want to send it back to Canada where it was purchased- and that's what happens on eBay buying stuff. You didn't pay attention to how to return stuff if it was bad and got stung. That's eBay.
On the second item, you says in the feedback the person has a fake phone number. Click on the auction and dial the number - it goes right to the seller - they answer the phone in the name of the seller. So fact is, the person's feedback response are totally lame and incorrect - nice for anyone who doesn't look at the actual feedback but for anyone who has a clue it points to where the real problem was - and its the person offering the ViP211 w/ R5000HD Mod.
So, as they say, buyer beware - and with those 2 negatives in 45 days which are clearly your fault, I wouldnt go near the auction.
Which is also why I would buy direct from Nextcom, as you have no warranty buying second hand equipment and god knows what would happen if something went wrong. At least you know who your are dealing with.
As you say, no offence, but the facts are in black and white for anyone that pushes 2 extra links to see where the truth lies.
And besides, the way you posted this on the forum -
This guy is selling his VIP 211 he must be crazy!! type Ebay item # 330102615832 in the search bar at ebay dot com
instead of saying, I am selling a ViP211 - 3 strikes?????
Ever heard of a lack of candor?
BUSTED!
Joseph Clark 03-29-07, 03:22 AM I did a forum search for info on Windows Vista and the R5000, but found nothing. The Nextcom site mentions just Windows 2000/XP. Does anyone know if the R5000 works with Windows Vista?
HDTVFanAtic 03-29-07, 04:10 AM go here and search this thread for keyword vista
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=449402&highlight=vista
There are several users that seem to have had success after fiddling with some install settings - but I would never upgrade a mission critical machine at this point in an O/S lifecycle.
If it works - why mess with it.
latreche34 03-29-07, 10:02 PM instead of saying, I am selling a ViP211 - 3 strikes?????
Ever heard of a lack of candor?
BUSTED!
Nice try, what would prevent me from saying I'm the seller, is it illegal to sell stuff at ebay???????
HDTVFanAtic 03-30-07, 01:55 AM Nice try, what would prevent me from saying I'm the seller, is it illegal to sell stuff at ebay???????
No its not illegal to sell stuff on ebay, but your lack of candor in this forum again indicates who the scammer is.
This guy is selling his VIP 211 he must be crazy!! type Ebay item # 330102615832 in the search bar at ebay dot com
If I would have to buy one I would buy it from him, it's brand new never been activated and he got only two - feedbacks from 2 sellers that seem they screwd him up.
No offence it's just my opinion.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5415972#post5415972
I'm living in Oakland, CA 94609, and here is all OTA channels that I can receive when I do a digital scan using Dish Network JVC 6000 HD receiver :
2-01 FOX - KTVUHD
2-02 FOX - KTVU-DT
.....
ebay item:
End time: Apr-03-07 23:39:41 PDT (5 days)
Shipping costs: FREE
Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service
Service to United States
Ships to: N. and S. America
Item location: Oakland, CA, United States
HDTVFanAtic 03-30-07, 04:49 AM This guy is selling his VIP 211 he must be crazy!! type Ebay item # 330102615832 in the search bar at ebay dot com
Oh yes, almost forgot
ebay item:
Starting time: Mar-24-07 23:39:41 PDT
Your post above = 16 minutes after the item was listed.
latreche34 04-01-07, 04:40 AM We wish that nextcomwireless releases a USB storage box with free choice hard drive installation, so we don't have to use our computers anymore, it will be nice to have an ethernet adapter in addition to HDMI output, I'm I just dreaming?
timecop 04-01-07, 05:05 AM Nextcom is too busy raking in $500 profit/unit for a board which costs a total of ~$20 to build, and I'm being generous with the build price here. Not that I'm blaming them, I'm doing the same thing here too :P
balazer 04-01-07, 11:42 AM It's only profit once you've covered your development costs. In any case the value is mostly in the software, not in that little board.
latreche34 04-02-07, 04:59 AM That's true, it's too expensive I wonder if they are still receiving orders especially with the release of the new generation open source FTA HD sat receivers PVR's it will be hard for them to keep their sales up.
timecop 04-02-07, 06:01 AM I think you're completely missing the point, nobody wants to record OTA, the primary purpose of R5000 is to record premium channels to media you can actually duplicate/backup = PC
I've been looking for a hardware decoding solution for playing my AVC/H.264 recordings from E*. Will the Netgear EVA8000 media streaming device work? http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=5958&page=2
latreche34 04-05-07, 04:36 PM I think you're completely missing the point, nobody wants to record OTA, the primary purpose of R5000 is to record premium channels to media you can actually duplicate/backup = PC
Actualy you are missing the point FTA is Free To Air satellite channels, OTA is Over The Air UHF/VHF
I've been looking for a hardware decoding solution for playing my AVC/H.264 recordings from E*. Will the Netgear EVA8000 media streaming device work? http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=5958&page=2
I think Snazio SZ1350 will do it with the latest firmware.
timecop 04-05-07, 06:00 PM No, I'm not missing the point, everyone can record OTA with a $50 ATSC tuner.
Not everyone can record premium cable QAM or subscription-based satellite without mods to the receiver.
latreche34 04-05-07, 07:34 PM I wasn't talking about OTA at all, and who cares about locals, 15min comercials 3min program, I meant with the birth of those FTA HD satellite receivers you will be able to record to the receiver hard drive and then with an ftp connection you can transfer those recordings to your PC which you cannot do it with the company PVR's and that's the purpose of the R5000-HD otherwise why they bother modifying VIP622 it's built in hard drive already. FTA mods is not a subject of this thread and it's illegal. and once again FTA doesn't in any way mean OTA.
timecop 04-05-07, 08:11 PM What?
Those "FTA HD satellite receivers" you speak of are simply overpriced lunix machines that will never receive subscription-based content from any reasonable satellite provider, so you're still stuck recording free satellite which is same thing you can already do with another $50 DVB-S card. Why would I spend $500 on that thing when I already *have* a PC which is capable of receiving free to air DVB-S?
HDTVFanAtic 04-05-07, 08:50 PM That's true, it's too expensive I wonder if they are still receiving orders especially with the release of the new generation open source FTA HD sat receivers PVR's it will be hard for them to keep their sales up.
Well, know we know why savana341, errrr, latreche34 (he sure likes 34 in the nick doesn't he) was trying to sell his ViP622 - seems he is buying a FTA satellite and intends to hack it to illegally receive E* broadcasts (until the newer Nagra cards are rolled out) - but then again, we've already seen first hand examples of his character and honesty :rolleyes:
latreche34 04-06-07, 09:02 AM What?
Those "FTA HD satellite receivers" you speak of are simply overpriced lunix machines that will never receive subscription-based content from any reasonable satellite provider, so you're still stuck recording free satellite which is same thing you can already do with another $50 DVB-S card. Why would I spend $500 on that thing when I already *have* a PC which is capable of receiving free to air DVB-S?
DVB-S card is not HD, SD only.
timecop 04-06-07, 09:33 AM O'RLY? Coulda fooled me, I'm receiving a 16mbps HD stream on DVB-S right now, and my motorized dish isn't even hooked up, so I'm only pointed at 113E.
FYI the "card" has nothing to do with HD or SD, any generic DVB_S card will receive up to 45-50mbit per transponder assuming its actually sent at that rate.
latreche34 04-06-07, 10:15 AM O'RLY? Coulda fooled me, I'm receiving a 16mbps HD stream on DVB-S right now, and my motorized dish isn't even hooked up, so I'm only pointed at 113E.
FYI the "card" has nothing to do with HD or SD, any generic DVB_S card will receive up to 45-50mbit per transponder assuming its actually sent at that rate.
How are you gonna receive directv or dishnet with this card unless you ask HDTVFanAtic he seem pretty knowledgeable about hacking devices like what he is doing to his dish 6000 now.
HDTVFanAtic 04-06-07, 10:49 AM How are you gonna receive directv or dishnet with this card unless you ask HDTVFanAtic he seem pretty knowledgeable about hacking devices like what he is doing to his dish 6000 now.
Given your lack of candor and false statements thus far in this thread, I sure won't loose any sleep over that accusation when I consider the source.
timecop 04-06-07, 06:05 PM he seem pretty knowledgeable about hacking devices like what he is doing to his dish 6000 now.
Incase you haven't noticed, R5000HD doesn't give you access to channels you don't subscribe to, so what HDTVFanAtic is doing is perfectly legal. Adding mods(?) to a Free-to-air receiver to decrypt DishTV or whatever without a valid subscription IS illegal however.
mkerdman 04-09-07, 09:48 PM How, and with what, are you going to play back these R5000-HD MPEG4 H2.64 on NYC HD Local recordings at full Bps/Resolution?
You can use Haali media splitter latest version with coreAVC 1.3 and play with any direct show player or you can use powerdvd latest edition. Also latest Nero showtime will do. You have to have a powerful pc to have a smooth playback.
mkerdman 04-10-07, 12:02 AM You can use Haali media splitter latest version with coreAVC 1.3 and play with any direct show player or you can use powerdvd latest edition. Also latest Nero showtime will do. You have to have a powerful pc to have a smooth playback.
What DirectShow Player do you reccomend?
What specs (CPU, Bus Speed, Memory, GPU Card) are needed in a powerful pc to have a smooth playback equal to a MyHD 120-130 playing an MPEG2 HD file?
Joseph Clark 04-10-07, 02:03 AM I have an Athlon 64 X2 4200+ with a Geforce 7950GT video card (a gig of memory, but bus speed and memory are less important). Plays back everything I've thrown at it so far, including commercial HD DVD's, with PowerDVD 7 (and the X-Box 360 add-on drive). I haven't fed it really high bitrate material yet, but it hasn't coughed at things like King Kong or Superman Returns.
mkerdman 04-10-07, 02:23 AM I have an Athlon 64 X2 4200+ with a Geforce 7950GT video card (a gig of memory, but bus speed and memory are less important). Plays back everything I've thrown at it so far, including commercial HD DVD's, with PowerDVD 7 (and the X-Box 360 add-on drive). I haven't fed it really high bitrate material yet, but it hasn't coughed at things like King Kong or Superman Returns.
Joseph
Have you sucessfully (smoothly) played back R5000-HD/Dish Network MPEG4 captures such as Starz-HD with the gear you describe?
Which brand Geforce 7950GT are you using and with how much memory, 512MB?
Does your video card play 1080i/p HD-DVD's through DVI/HDMI - Digital output (i.e. HDCP) or only RGB/Component Video - Analog?
Is your Xbox HD-DVD hooked diretly to your PC or through an actual Xbox 360?
Joseph Clark 04-10-07, 03:39 AM I've played back all those smoothly from video captured with an R5000 modded Dish 211 on that system. The video card is a BFG 7950GT with 256mb memory. The card will play through its DVI (HDCP) output to both my Dell 2407 computer monitor and my Sharp XV-Z20000 projector (also HDCP). It would (I think) also output through VGA at 1080p if using AnyDVD HD, but I've never had it hooked up that way to check. The Xbox HD DVD drive is connected directly to my PC. It downloads the drivers automatically from the Microsoft site when you plug it in.
I've also had pretty good success playing back some H.264 files on lower end PC's, such as an Athlon 64 3400+ with a Radeon 9600 Pro video card, using CoreAVC and Media Player Classic.
mkerdman,
I have a C2D 6300 and 1 GB ram and a Connect3D Radeon X1900 GT video card. Try first Nero Showtime or powerDVD ultra before you install Haali/CoreAVC. I have smooth playback even with Windows Media Player. I am just hoping that sony will support high profile H264 so I can play these files on the PS3 without reencoding.
Joseph Clark 04-10-07, 12:02 PM mkerdman,
I have a C2D 6300 and 1 GB ram and a Connect3D Radeon X1900 GT video card. Try first Nero Showtime or powerDVD ultra before you install Haali/CoreAVC. I have smooth playback even with Windows Media Player. I am just hoping that sony will support high profile H264 so I can play these files on the PS3 without reencoding.
I'm interested to know if you're overclocking your 6300 and what type of motherboard you're using. I'm thinking about upgrading my R5000 computer, since it won't play back H.264 smoothly. (I have another system that I use for playback.) My existing R5000 system is an overclocked P4, which has been stable, but it's getting a little long in the tooth. I'm looking at the E4300, since I don't need the 6300's VT, and the 4300 is supposed to overclock well.
Joseph,
No overclocking it is a Dell (does not overclock), motherboard is an intel. I think the 4300 will be more than enough and this one can overclock like a champ. I get 20-30% CPU load when I play H263 ts file at full screen. My card is connected to Dell 20" via VGA and to an AX100 projector through an HDMI switch.
Joseph Clark 04-10-07, 09:15 PM Thanks. My overclocked P4 hasn't caused any problems, though it's overclocked only about 10-12%. I think the 4300 can be overclocked dramatically, and I'm wondering if that might cause any USB issues. I'll head on over to the HTPC area and ask there, too.
mkerdman 04-14-07, 03:50 AM I have not fine tuned it at all, but, Dish MPEG4 H.264 played with Media Player Classic 6.4 + CoreAVC works as far as fluid video and lip sync audio over ethernet on a clean install Windows MCE 2005 PC with a Core2 Duo E6300 and an older ATI 9200 AGP 128MB Video Card.
Can anyone please give me a primer on the aspect ratio settings to get the most 720P and 1080i out of Media Player Classic 6.4 + CoreAVC.
PowerDVD and other players may work as well or better, I don’t know. Maybe others here can say.
But, I am happy that I have the makings of a Dish MPEG4 H.264 file player.
latreche34 04-16-07, 09:59 AM Has any one tried editing MPEG4 recordings on VideoRedo, I have Dish6000 but I'm planning to buy VIP 211 I just want to make sur that I can trim my recordings.
R5000-HD 04-18-07, 03:40 PM For a limited time all R5000-HD modifications are on sale for 15% off the current list price. Does not apply to pre-modified receivers. Offer extends to May 15, 2007. See sales page (http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/sales.htm) for details. Thank you.
-R
HDTVFanAtic 04-18-07, 07:24 PM hmmmm.......someone has a DNS Server problem.
balazer 04-18-07, 10:50 PM Someone who? You? Not me and not Nextcom.
HDTVFanAtic 04-19-07, 12:00 AM Someone who? You? Not me and not Nextcom.
As we don't run DNS Servers, I suppose not. However Siteprotect.com who handles the DNS for Nextcom sure did.
Sgt_Strider 04-19-07, 12:40 AM Has anyone here tried the R5000-HD on either Starchoice or the Motorola DCT2500 receiver?
Has anyone here tried the R5000-HD on either Starchoice or the Motorola DCT2500 receiver?
I use the the mod on a Star Choice Moto DSR505 and it works fine.
As we don't run DNS Servers, I suppose not. However Siteprotect.com who handles the DNS for Nextcom sure did.
There was definitely a problem at the time of your original post. Appears fine now.
Ron Tobin 04-19-07, 07:37 AM Has anyone here tried the R5000-HD on either Starchoice or the Motorola DCT2500 receiver?
And I have the R5000 mod on my Motorola DCT2500 with Fios service and it works for perfectly. I've had previous experience with R5000 modded STBs for both Dish and DirecTV, and they all perform equally great. And, as an aside, Nextcom's tech support is always there when you need them. :)
HDTVFanAtic 04-20-07, 03:50 AM There was definitely a problem at the time of your original post. Appears fine now.
Yep
I'm smart enough to know whatever I post is always challenged so I am usually smart enough to double check myself so I have back up.
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6636/nextcomwirelessdnsfailuwg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
HDTVFanAtic 04-20-07, 03:54 AM And I have the R5000 mod on my Motorola DCT2500 with Fios service and it works for perfectly. I've had previous experience with R5000 modded STBs for both Dish and DirecTV, and they all perform equally great. And, as an aside, Nextcom's tech support is always there when you need them. :)
I spoke with someone in NJ (right outside Philadelphia) earlier this week that has FIOS.
He told me that they had a power outage late last week and it killed all the FIOS STBs in the area - they had to go to everyone's house in the area and replace the router and STBs.
Now, I guess that's not an issue for most people, but if you have a modified R5000HD unit - that clearly is an issue.
I understand they have battery backup on some parts of the equipment they install, but obviously not the stbs.
Have you had this long enough to experience anything like this - as that would clearly be a concern.
Ron Tobin 04-20-07, 09:26 AM I spoke with someone in NJ (right outside Philadelphia) earlier this week that has FIOS.
He told me that they had a power outage late last week and it killed all the FIOS STBs in the area - they had to go to everyone's house in the area and replace the router and STBs.
Now, I guess that's not an issue for most people, but if you have a modified R5000HD unit - that clearly is an issue.
I understand they have battery backup on some parts of the equipment they install, but obviously not the stbs.
Have you had this long enough to experience anything like this - as that would clearly be a concern.
It's only been about 2 months since I've had the R5000/DCT2500 STB and no problems yet. But as you very well know, since we're both from the same area, thunderstorm and lightning season is right around the corner, and that's when we're susceptible to power outages. So that will be a better indication of how the STB holds up under those circumstances.
Sure, the situation you describe is a concern. But imagine to cost to Verizon, in both eqt. and time, if they have to replace STBs and routers. Add that to their $22billion investment cost. Yikes!!
balazer 04-20-07, 12:27 PM I can't imagine how a power outage would kill a box. Unplugging it from the wall should not kill it.
Was it a severe firmware bug? Or a power surge? It's a good idea to put sensitive equipment on a UPS.
FoeHammer865 04-20-07, 03:34 PM I can't imagine how a power outage would kill a box. Unplugging it from the wall should not kill it.
Was it a severe firmware bug? Or a power surge? It's a good idea to put sensitive equipment on a UPS.
Absolutely correct. I'm sure it was not just a "power outage" that killed it. There must have been some sort of Power Surge or spike that went through the lines to each house. Those people that didn't have their equipment connected to a good surge protector probably had all their units fry. The only reason Verizon replaced them was because they don't REQUIRE a surge protector and the units are under warranty.
HDTVFanAtic 04-20-07, 11:55 PM I can't imagine how a power outage would kill a box. Unplugging it from the wall should not kill it.
Was it a severe firmware bug? Or a power surge? It's a good idea to put sensitive equipment on a UPS.
I am well aware of what should happen and how things should be protected...But they were going to all subs in the New Jersey suburb and replacing all boxes and routers without service calls - as they would not boot up after the power outage caused by the bad weather early last week.
Now, I may be the only person I know of that keeps my STBs on UPS boxes - and its a sure bet 99.99999999999% of the population does not.
However, I was under the impression that the routers that FIOS used were on their UPS thus giving backup for telephone when electricity outages occur. That could be incorrect as I have not seen the actual installation, but regardless, this didn't give me much comfort level in the process - especially for a modification of a STB.
Absolutely correct. I'm sure it was not just a "power outage" that killed it. There must have been some sort of Power Surge or spike that went through the lines to each house. Those people that didn't have their equipment connected to a good surge protector probably had all their units fry. The only reason Verizon replaced them was because they don't REQUIRE a surge protector and the units are under warranty.
So every FIOS router and STB in an entire Philadelphia Suburb went out - and was replaced - and nothing else in anyone's house fried?
Very doubtful.
I'd have better odds in Vegas.
balazer 04-21-07, 12:22 AM But they were going to all subs in the New Jersey suburb and replacing all boxes and routers without service calls - as they would not boot up after the power outage caused by the bad weather early last week.It sounds to me like a severe firmware bug. Losing power would not fry a box, but a certain sequence of power events with the routers and boxes, and/or certain signals on the cable lines could put the boxes in an unbootable state.
HDTVFanAtic 04-21-07, 12:28 AM I think the safe bet is for anyone getting FIOS and a R5000HD is to put your STB on a UPS to be on the safe side. Of course, if they come knocking on your door wanting to swap out your STB, even though its still working, I am not sure what you can say at that point.
Hopefully it is a firmware issue that they can push out an update to all the other boxes.
I can't imagine how a power outage would kill a box. Unplugging it from the wall should not kill it.
Was it a severe firmware bug? Or a power surge? It's a good idea to put sensitive equipment on a UPS.
Maybe the power went out while they were upgrading the firmware.
HDTVFanAtic 04-21-07, 02:04 AM Maybe the power went out while they were upgrading the firmware.
They could not be upgrading the routers and the stb at the same time.
timecop 04-21-07, 03:48 AM Theoretically, they could have cached the firmware image on both router and STB, and then triggered mass update remotely in the region, and then the power went out. That would be kinda funny.
HDTVFanAtic 04-21-07, 02:54 PM Theoretically, they could have cached the firmware image on both router and STB, and then triggered mass update remotely in the region, and then the power went out. That would be kinda funny.
They push those firmware upgrades up in real time to the unit, they install and reboot. No one in their right mind would have the STB updating its firmware at the same time as the router as they know the router would reboot during the upgrade, thus killing the connectivity of the stb.
HDTVFanAtic 04-23-07, 02:35 AM FYI, I spoke more with the person in New Jersey at length this evening.
It clearly was not a firmware update as the TV STBs still worked. All channels also were available (except VOD). What did not work was the EPG and pop up information as you were changing channels to tell you which channel you were on.
He said the FIOS people said that info was fed from the router (sounds strange I know, but what they said) and that's why the router had to be replaced as well.
balazer 04-23-07, 02:49 AM Then why did the STBs have to be replaced? It doesn't make sense that a power fluctuation would fry just certain chips in everyone's boxes.
timecop 04-23-07, 03:35 AM They push those firmware upgrades up in real time to the unit, they install and reboot. No one in their right mind would have the STB updating its firmware at the same time as the router as they know the router would reboot during the upgrade, thus killing the connectivity of the stb.
Well, obviously, thats why I said they *downloaded* the update, and kept it in ram/temporary storage/whatever, and then triggered mass update remotely. The download would already be completed at that time and both boxes could be upgraded. I duno, just speaking theoretically here, obviously not what happened.
Ron Tobin 04-23-07, 09:25 AM He said the FIOS people said that info was fed from the router (sounds strange I know, but what they said) and that's why the router had to be replaced as well.
The router gets installed even if you don't sign up for their internet service. It's the router that's used for guide data, widget, VOD.
HDTVFanAtic 04-23-07, 11:00 PM The router gets installed even if you don't sign up for their internet service. It's the router that's used for guide data, widget, VOD.
That's what he said but I found it strange - but you are confirming - so obviously its correct.
For whatever reason, the power outage killed the router and stbs to get the guide data and VOD.
That's all I know, but at least the info as to what does what is consistent
Has any one tried editing MPEG4 recordings on VideoRedo, I have Dish6000 but I'm planning to buy VIP 211 I just want to make sur that I can trim my recordings.
VR+ does not support MPEG4.
For the moment, you can use TSPE:
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TS_Packet_Editor
Sgt_Strider 04-25-07, 02:38 AM And I have the R5000 mod on my Motorola DCT2500 with Fios service and it works for perfectly. I've had previous experience with R5000 modded STBs for both Dish and DirecTV, and they all perform equally great. And, as an aside, Nextcom's tech support is always there when you need them. :)
Nextcom's website said it won't work with the DCT2500 on though. Can you record HD content with 5C protection on?
balazer 04-25-07, 02:50 AM Nextcom's website said it won't work with the DCT2500 on though.Where does it say that?Can you record HD content with 5C protection on?Of course you can. R5000-HD doesn't care about 5C.
Ron Tobin 04-25-07, 07:48 AM Nextcom's website said it won't work with the DCT2500 on though.
I have no idea what you're referring too. If it didn't work, I wouldn't say that it does. :confused:
HDTVFanAtic 04-25-07, 09:19 AM Nextcom's website said it won't work with the DCT2500 on though. Can you record HD content with 5C protection on?
The DCT2500 does not have a firewire connector which is the only thing 5c is relevant to.
Vinylvision 04-27-07, 01:33 PM Please post your thoughts/experiences about using Elecard software for playback of MPEG 4 recorded with R5000-HD and VIP211. Elecard information is at: http://www.elecard.com/products/products-pc/consumer/mpeg-player/
I want to buy the R5000 setup if HD playback of HD MPEG4 is reliable. The R5000-HD website states: "Playback is accomplished with either PC hardware: MyHD, Roku, etc. or software: VLC, Elecard, Divco, etc." My Elecard search on this thread shows the most recent Elecard post as done in 2005. I have never used a HTPC before, but I am very disatisfied with my cable provider and want to switch to satellite with PC based time shifting. Thanks for your suggestions.
Apropos the recent discussion here concerning playback of H.264 streams: it appears that the forthcoming TViX 4100SH (and 5100SH) will have this capability.
There are still unanswered questions since it's not (quite) released yet, but the early reports are promising.
It's being discussed on this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=825089).
Vinylvision 04-27-07, 03:25 PM Thanks rrg... The TViX 4100SH does indeed look promising. I have subscribed to that thread.
mtallent 04-28-07, 01:55 PM I have a R5000 modded HDD-200 that I have used on C-band and cable. I have switched it back to C-band use with a 922 receiver. I have installed the latest R5000 software on a new computer with Asus P5W board and E6600 Intel dual core,Win Xp SP2.
When I install the R5000 software there are no problems, except I seem to install it twice to get it to work. When I try to do a simple manual recording, it starts recording and then in 30 seconds it stops with a error 255 message and the recorded file is 0 bytes. I then added a PCI USB2 card with the NEC chip and tried again with exactly the seam error message. This is an older R5000 unit number 100219C.
Any suggestions on getting this working again.
Mike T
balazer 04-28-07, 02:10 PM Do you have an HD channel tuned? Is the HD indicator on your HD-200 turned on?
mtallent 04-28-07, 02:40 PM Do you have an HD channel tuned? Is the HD indicator on your HD-200 turned on?
Yes, I was getting HD picture. I think I have found the problem. I had selected the HDD-200 old HD only setting in the service window and then I tried the HDD-200 new setting and I just made a good recording. I had though the old setting was right as this is several year old mod, but if it works I don't mind.
Thanks for your help.
I had been using the HDD-200 with a 2500 cable box until the CC turned off the data port with a software upgrade, so back to C-band.
Mike T
Sgt_Strider 04-29-07, 11:55 PM Where does it say that?Of course you can. R5000-HD doesn't care about 5C.
Check out this link: http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/cableinfo.htm
Unless I misunderstood the content that was put on the website, are you telling me that my Motorola DCT2500 can record HD content with the R5000-HD modification? Even if the channels employ 5C protection, I can still record the content?
Sgt_Strider 04-29-07, 11:58 PM The DCT2500 does not have a firewire connector which is the only thing 5c is relevant to.
So in other words you're saying that I can use the DCT2500 with the R5000-HD modification and record HD content even if the channels are protected by 5C protection?
I want to be absolutely sure that is the case.
balazer 04-30-07, 12:24 AM Check out this link: http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/cableinfo.htmWell it says the mod works with the DCT2000 series, and they mention the DCT2500 specifically. (though they swapped C and T) It doesn't say the box won't work, aside from a caveat about getting the box authorized for HD channels.So in other words you're saying that I can use the DCT2500 with the R5000-HD modification and record HD content even if the channels are protected by 5C protection?Yes, with that caveat about getting the box authorized for HD channels. That's the whole point of the R5000-HD mod - to record without the restrictions imposed by DTCP. If you only cared about recording within the restrictions imposed by DTCP, you could get a DTCP-compliant FireWire D-VHS or Blu-ray recorder and hook it up to a FireWire-enabled box like the DCT6000.
Ron Tobin 04-30-07, 09:35 AM So in other words you're saying that I can use the DCT2500 with the R5000-HD modification and record HD content even if the channels are protected by 5C protection?
I want to be absolutely sure that is the case.
I'll repeat. It absolutely works, as I've posted that I have the R5000 modification in my DCT2500. No 5C protection to be concerned about with the DCT2500. And as Balazer points out, the only issue you need to be concerned with is whether or not your cable company will, or already has, authorized the HD channels on your DCT2500. In my case, they are authorized, and I didn't even have to ask.
FYI -- to tell if they are authorized, tune to an HD channel on your DCT2500. If you get audio and no on screen message that the channel you're tuned to is not authorized, then you are good to go.
I had been using the HDD-200 with a 2500 cable box until the CC turned off the data port with a software upgrade, so back to C-band.Another option: regardless of the data port, if the HD channels are still authorized on your DCT2500 you could have the R5000-HD modification applied directly to the cable box. Since it's Motorola hardware Nextcom might even move the mod for you from the HDD-200 (for an upgrade fee).
balazer 05-01-07, 01:15 PM Nextcom quoted me $350 for that transfer one year ago.
Sgt_Strider 05-03-07, 02:08 AM I'll repeat. It absolutely works, as I've posted that I have the R5000 modification in my DCT2500. No 5C protection to be concerned about with the DCT2500. And as Balazer points out, the only issue you need to be concerned with is whether or not your cable company will, or already has, authorized the HD channels on your DCT2500. In my case, they are authorized, and I didn't even have to ask.
FYI -- to tell if they are authorized, tune to an HD channel on your DCT2500. If you get audio and no on screen message that the channel you're tuned to is not authorized, then you are good to go.
Thanks for the information. I'm in no hurry to get this package since I'm leaving for China for the remainder of the summer. Will the modification become cheaper during the holidays?
timecop 05-03-07, 03:35 AM doubt it
Ron Tobin 05-03-07, 07:48 AM Will the modification become cheaper during the holidays?
Per Nextcom's website, there's a sale going on now which expires on 5/15/07.
mkerdman 05-09-07, 01:19 PM I am keeping an eye on the TViX 4100SH media server to play R5000 MPEG4 H.264 files.
Aside from Media Player Classic & CoreAVC v1.3, and VLC with the K-Lite Codec Pack, I have also used PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 to play R5000 MPEG4 H.264 files.
However, PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 plays only about half my R5000 - MPEG4 H.264 recordings of Dish Network network channels (ABC, NBC, FOX, CBS).
Media Player Classic & CoreAVC v1.3 plays them all, but, PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 has better picture when it works.
Can the presence of the other players and codecs on my system cause PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 to play R5000 MPEG4 H.264 files intermittently?
I'm toying with the idea of trying out SageTV for recording rather than titantv. Are there any tricks or info one should know in advance so that SageTV recognizes the R5000 or is support built in just like any other tuner card? Can anyone using the combination comment on their likes/dislikes? I would imagine channel tuning might be slow but honestly I mainly want it scheduling recordings rather than the web-based epg
Ron Tobin 05-10-07, 07:43 AM I'm toying with the idea of trying out SageTV for recording rather than titantv. Are there any tricks or info one should know in advance so that SageTV recognizes the R5000 or is support built in just like any other tuner card? Can anyone using the combination comment on their likes/dislikes? I would imagine channel tuning might be slow but honestly I mainly want it scheduling recordings rather than the web-based epg
Sage doesn't provide R5000 support, however if you go to Nextcom's site, there's instructions on what lines need to be added to the Sage server properties file. Just follow those instructions carefully and you'll be all set. In addition, you would need a special version of the Nextcom DVR application, available directly from Nextcom.
I've been using it for over a year, and it works great. But as you've noted, channel changes are slow, but one can live with that. Lots of good information over on the Sage forum. I'm personally using an R5000 modified Motorola cable STB along with a dual tuner HD Homerun. So my Sage recognizes three tuners.
Thanks Ron. So if I understand you correctly, I need to purchase a special version of the DVR software from Nextcom and purchase SageTV separately? On a somewhat related topic, since you are using SageTV to control other tuners, do you know if it will recognize/control a MyHD card?
Ron Tobin 05-10-07, 12:59 PM Thanks Ron. So if I understand you correctly, I need to purchase a special version of the DVR software from Nextcom and purchase SageTV separately? On a somewhat related topic, since you are using SageTV to control other tuners, do you know if it will recognize/control a MyHD card?
That's correct. You need to purchase licenses from both Sage and Nextcom.
As to MyHD, there's a thread or two on the Sage forum where someone wrote an interface for MyHD to work with Sage. I personally tried it and there were many timing issues. I've since abandoned MyHD (since I was only interested in QAM) and have replaced it with HD Homerun, which is a network encoder. It handles QAM as well as ASTC, since it's a dual tuner device. I have to say it works flawlessly for me and if you are interested in a QAM or ASTC tuner, I would highly recommend it.
I'm no longer following the threads on the Sage forum dealing with MyHD, so I really can't tell you if more progress has been made, or if the project has been abandoned. I believe the developer is Salsbst.
I am keeping an eye on the TViX 4100SH media server to play R5000 MPEG4 H.264 files.I used mine last night to successfully play a few short H.264 clips that I recorded months ago from Starz-HD on Dish Network, and they played without any issues.
It would be premature to claim success before doing more testing with new recordings, but it seems promising.
If I can get to it soon I'll try recording the New York locals to see how well they play on the 4100.
So far I've been unable to get it to play 1080i/50Hz H.264 streams captured from BBC-HD (which is very disappointing) but it may provide a solution for Dish Network captures.
Philip Klein 05-11-07, 02:42 PM Comcast is introducing these new, stripped down boxes, DCT 700, that they are renting for free for one year. Past postings have indicated that older DCT models, such as 2200 or something, can be modified so that HD programs can be download via the Nextcom mod even though the box itself does not output at HD picture (the sound is output, however).
Will the mod work on the DCT 700 so that HD programs can be downloaded?
- Phil
Ron Tobin 05-11-07, 04:02 PM Will the mod work on the DCT 700 so that HD programs can be downloaded?
- Phil
Why don't you send them an email at r5000sales@nextcomwireless.com and ask. I have an R5000 modified DCT2500 and it works flawlessly for recording HD programming.
Will the mod work on the DCT 700 so that HD programs can be downloaded?The DCT700 has been available in my area for a long time (it's digital only and much cheaper for Comcast to deploy if the system has digital simulcast of all analog channels).
I asked Nextcom about it at the time they were first deployed and I recall that they said they probably could modify it since the Motorola boxes were all very similar. However, I checked with someone in my area who had one, and the HD channels did not appear in his channel map, which made it doubtful that a modded 700 could be used for recording HD.
By contrast, the DCT2222 and similar (older) boxes do have the HD channels in the map.
balazer 05-12-07, 01:38 AM By contrast, the DCT2222 and similar (older) boxes do have the HD channels in the map.Where you live, perhaps, but not everywhere. Different Comcast systems are configured differently.
Ron Tobin 05-12-07, 09:15 AM Will the mod work on the DCT 700 so that HD programs can be downloaded?
To add to Balazer's comment -- simply tune the STB to an HD station. If the STB is authorized (mapped), you will get audio, no video, and no on screen message saying you are not authorized for this station, or some other similar message. Lack of that message and audio on an HD station means you're good to go.
Good luck.
R5000-HD 05-14-07, 04:24 PM Realease versions 2.5d DVR and 2.4e PVR have been posted in the download area of the support (http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/support.htm) page. They are recommended for all users.
In addition to the features/fixes addressed in the version 2.5b beta, the latest release of the DVR has some important fixes to address high-density cable streams. Channel mappings for certain FIOS systems have also been integrated.
The PVR addresses unique (user/setup dependent) issues by switching back to a static MFC library.
-R
jones07 05-14-07, 05:37 PM Bottom line, Dishnet Playback on sage for mpeg-4 (h.264) content is not working No fix No workaround no nothing..............am I right?
Boy did I throw money down the rat hole on this HDTV project
$200 211 ird
$550 R5000 mod
$49 sage/r5000 software
Ron Tobin 05-14-07, 05:52 PM Bottom line, Dishnet Playback on sage for mpeg-4 (h.264) content is not working No fix No workaround no nothing..............am I right?
Boy did I throw money down the rat hole on this HDTV project
$200 211 ird
$550 R5000 mod
$49 sage/r5000 software
Have you tried the Cyberlink H.264 decoder with Sage?
jones07 05-14-07, 07:10 PM I have tried powerdvd 6.0 & 7.0 Cyberlink decoders. Is this the decoder you are talking about?
When attempting to playback via SageTV, here is the error message I get:
There was a Playback Error in playback.
Details:
sage.PlaybackException:Error(-4,0x800402170: There was a problem rendering the video portion of the content for playback.
I've had my R5000-HD modified Dish VIP-622 for about 2 weeks now. It has worked wonderfully. I am able to play everything that I have recorded fine with either a MyHD MDP-130 or PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 depending on whether it is MPEG-2 or MPEG-4.
I use VideoReDo Plus to edit MPEG-2 files. Is there any software available, either free or commercial, that offers the same functionality for the MPEG-4 TS files that the R5000-HD produces from many of the Dish HD channels?
lilredjetdiwagon 06-16-07, 01:18 PM So far I've been unable to get it to play 1080i/50Hz H.264 streams captured from BBC-HD (which is very disappointing) but it may provide a solution for Dish Network captures.
What is your source of getting BBC-HD here in the US? Thanks! :)
balazer 06-16-07, 01:43 PM What is your source of getting BBC-HD here in the US? Thanks! :)It's not a legal source or a source that you can use. Think about it...
lilredjetdiwagon 06-16-07, 05:27 PM It's not a legal source or a source that you can use. Think about it...
Thanks a lot for your response.
If I am thinking what you referring to, I've not actually gone that route for any of my media needs, so it never came to mind.
Thanks again :)
sneals2000 06-16-07, 06:50 PM It's not a legal source or a source that you can use. Think about it...
As someone who has a legal source of BBC HD - I've found running the streams through TSRemux allows them to play easily as files on a PS3. I've heard reports that the same proves fruitful for the 4100/5100.
As someone who has a legal source of BBC HD - I've found running the streams through TSRemux allows them to play easily as files on a PS3. I've heard reports that the same proves fruitful for the 4100/5100.
Can you please elaborate more? I tried running h264 ts recorded from starz through TSRemux and the PS3 played audio only without video though it recognized the file as AVC with DD audio. And another question is there away to make the PS3 output DD audio from these files? Thanks for all the help
Will the below linked statement from TMS have any impact on R5000 devices? I sold my R5000 device about a month ago but I'm pretty sure I was using Zap2it for guide data.
http://labs.zap2it.com/ztvws/ztvws_login/1,1059,TMS01-1-0,00.html
Zap2it Labs
IMPORTANT MESSAGE:
For several years we have offered a free TV listings service to hobbyists for their own personal, noncommercial use. In October of 2004 we posted here an open letter saying the future of Zap2it Labs was at risk because of certain growing misuses of the Zap2it Labs data. Unfortunately this misuse has continued and grown. These misuses, combined with other business factors have led to the decision to discontinue Zap2it Labs effective September 1, 2007.
We thank those users who have honored the terms of the agreement, and we suggest you consider the many TV listings options offered by the commercial licensees of TMS TV listings data.
If you would like to discuss how to license TV listings for commercial use, please let us know by e-mail (labs@zap2it.com) and include your company name, telephone number and the best time to reach you. We will respond to your inquiry as soon as possible.
We anticipate this decision will generate discussion and invite you to respond via the Zap2it Labs forum. We will do our best to respond to relevant questions posted on this forum in a timely manner.
mkerdman 06-22-07, 02:26 PM I have several Dish 211's modified with R5000 and I have all the Dish 211's PREFERENCES >> INACTIVITY OPTION defeated so that the recievers should never power down or go into standby.
If they do, an R5000 Scheduled Event wil fail and a 0 byte recording will result.
I have had numerous 0 byte recordings with the balloon error message “STB Off 0 Byte Recording Being made”.
Nonetheless, even with the Dish 211's INACTIVITY OPTION defeated, my 211's still power down or go into standby requiring the SELECT or POWER button to be pressed to "Wake" them up.
I can keep them awake for 10 hrs. to 3 dyas but they all power down or go into standby.
Dish tells me that the latest FW code will, sooner or later, force a standby so that the EPG Download can take place.
For example, if you go away on a 2-week vacation and schedule various R5000 events, it appears to me from my experience that you probably will not have all your scheduled recordings succeed.
Separately, I have had several 0 failure recordings begin normally, and then aborted in the H:\ directory and jumped to the C:\ directory for no good reason, after which I might stop it manually or a succession of 0failure files are written before the code aborts:
H:\Love & Sex.ts size: 0MB, length: 30s, failures: 0 Finished: 06/22/07 00:39:25
C:\Love & Sex.ts size: 0MB, length: 29s, failures: 0 Finished: 06/22/07 00:39:57
H:\American Gigolo.ts size: 0MB, length: 30s, failures: 0 Finished: 06/20/07 16:58:43
C:\American Gigolo.ts size: 0MB, length: 29s, failures: 0 Finished: 06/20/07 16:59:15
C:\American Gigolo1.ts size: 0MB, length: 29s, failures: 0 Finished: 06/20/07 16:59:47
C:\American Gigolo2.ts size: 0MB, length: 29s, failures: 0 Finished: 06/20/07 17:00:19
C:\American Gigolo3.ts size: 0MB, length: 29s, failures: 0 Finished: 06/20/07 17:00:52
Has anybody had either of these problems, and, moreover does anyone have a solution?
Thanks!
I get these exact same problems not infrequently with my VIP622. I usually attributed it to the R5000 software not "waking up" my 622 after it enters powerdown or sleep mode. Sent an email to Nextcom a few months ago and never got a response on the topic :confused:
videolover 06-22-07, 03:54 PM I have a Dish VIP622 which also powers down everyday at 3am to download the latest EPG.
If I schedule a recording WITH THE 622 @ 0400 for no matter how short, that wakes up the receiver to be available for R5000 recordings. So, if you are going to be gone for two weeks, you could have the machine record @ 4am for 5 minutes everyday. Since yours is a 211 and not a 622, this may not apply to you
videolover, thanks for the tip. I'll give it a try.
mkerdman 06-23-07, 05:35 PM I have a Dish VIP622 which also powers down everyday at 3am to download the latest EPG.
If I schedule a recording WITH THE 622 @ 0400 for no matter how short, that wakes up the receiver to be available for R5000 recordings. So, if you are going to be gone for two weeks, you could have the machine record @ 4am for 5 minutes everyday. Since yours is a 211 and not a 622, this may not apply to you
I wonder if I were to set the Dish 211 timer to "watch" a program or "switch channles" at 4am for 5 minutes everyday and get the same benefit.
Even if it worked, I would then have to keep that in mind when scheduling overnight R5000 recordings (yuck).
Can anyone comment as to how the R5000 is working for them set up as a Vista/XP media center recorder via the Tim Moore solution. What's the deal with H.264 feeds....do they show up and play in media center after recording?
Just wondering if I should jump for a R5000 Dish solution or not....
ralphjb 07-10-07, 11:54 AM Can anyone comment as to how the R5000 is working for them set up as a Vista/XP media center recorder via the Tim Moore solution. What's the deal with H.264 feeds....do they show up and play in media center after recording?
Just wondering if I should jump for a R5000 Dish solution or not....
I can't answer your query directly, as I use SageTV. I did just switch from DirecTV to Dish because of the availability of the modded Dish box. I am still working my way through the H.264 feeds.
I am curious what others are doing to play back the H.264 files?
Install core AVC with media player classic or powerdvd hd/bd. also Nero showtime plays Those.
I use nero recode for post processing.
ChrisW6ATV 07-11-07, 04:47 AM I am curious what others are doing to play back the H.264 files?
A friend of mine is having excellent results with the Tvix M-4100SH media player.
Vinylvision 07-11-07, 09:16 AM A friend of mine is having excellent results with the Tvix M-4100SH media player. It would be very helpful to me if you could determine the following from your friend:
- What type of R5000-HD content source (e.g. Dish satellite H.264, cable tv)
Thanks, Elliott
ChrisW6ATV 07-12-07, 03:32 AM Elliott-
He is using it for Dish Network AVC/h.264 recordings. It is not yet a completely bug-free process (if things like this ever become bug-free), but the best place to read more might be in the Tvix discussion:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=825089
R5000-HD 07-17-07, 11:43 AM A new release is available from the downloads area of the support page. (http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/support.htm) Addresses incorrect stream type indications (MPEG-2, 0x0). If a stream fails to be properly identified it is assumed to be MPEG-2 but will logged and notated as 'stream parsing failed'.
Other areas addressed are increased wait time for STB power up (reports of longer than normal power up from some 211 boxes). Stream restarts for PVR events are handled differently; the event cycle is completely re-initiated including power up and channel entry. Fixes incorrect path on PVR restart.
-R
Any plan in supporting FIOS? With E* going HD-Lite with most of its channels (including HBO and SHOWTIME) R5000 value to me has diminished in its usefulness in capturing Full HD from satellite providers.
Kirby Baker 07-18-07, 08:32 AM Any plan in supporting FIOS? With E* going HD-Lite with most of its channels (including HBO and SHOWTIME) R5000 value to me has diminished in its usefulness in capturing Full HD from satellite providers.
FIOS already is supported.
Ron Tobin 07-18-07, 09:10 AM Any plan in supporting FIOS? With E* going HD-Lite with most of its channels (including HBO and SHOWTIME) R5000 value to me has diminished in its usefulness in capturing Full HD from satellite providers.
I've been recording Fios programming with an R5000 modified DCT 2500 since February, with great success.
moshmothma 07-18-07, 09:50 PM I've been recording Fios programming with an R5000 modified DCT 2500 since February, with great success.
How did you get a DCT 2500 with FIOS? Is this the SD box that they use? Thanks
Ron Tobin 07-18-07, 10:33 PM How did you get a DCT 2500 with FIOS? Is this the SD box that they use? Thanks
Nextcom can modify a non 5C Motorola STB. See http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/products.htm
and look at the bottom of the page I've linked. In my area (an I'm assuming nationwide) HD channels are authorized on SD boxes. Therefore, the R5000 works beautifully.
moshmothma 07-18-07, 10:41 PM Nextcom can modify a non 5C Motorola STB. See http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/products.htm
and look at the bottom of the page I've linked. In my area (an I'm assuming nationwide) HD channels are authorized on SD boxes. Therefore, the R5000 works beautifully.
Right, but did you get the DCT2500 from Verizon or did you provide your own? If the latter, how did you get it registered with Verizon? Thanks
Ron Tobin 07-19-07, 09:13 AM Right, but did you get the DCT2500 from Verizon or did you provide your own? If the latter, how did you get it registered with Verizon? Thanks
It's a Verizon rented STB. As soon as I initiated Fios service and received the STB, I immediately sent it to Nextcom for installation of the R5000 board. There is no physical evidence of modification on the box. If I were to ever cancel Fios service, all I would need to do is send the STB back to Nextcom for removal of the R5000 board.
moshmothma 07-19-07, 08:01 PM It's a Verizon rented STB. As soon as I initiated Fios service and received the STB, I immediately sent it to Nextcom for installation of the R5000 board. There is no physical evidence of modification on the box. If I were to ever cancel Fios service, all I would need to do is send the STB back to Nextcom for removal of the R5000 board.
That's what I needed to hear! Yeah, I will most certainly send my box to be modded. I hope nextcom will not charge me for a new mod - I currently have the Dish 621 with mod. Hopefully, they can just exchange them. Thanks
R5000-HD 07-23-07, 10:36 AM Upgrade Specials for older Modifications
For a limited time older R5000-HD modified receivers can be traded in or upgraded into a new unit at significant savings over purchasing a new modification.
Trade-in your old modified unit and get $250 off a new modification or towards the purchase of a new pre-modified Dish Vip 211 receiver. Your old hardware becomes the property of Nextcom, LLC.
Swap/Upgrade to a new modification and get $150 off the price of the mod or new pre-modified Vip 211. Your old hardware is returned to you.
For complete details and for a list of how the various receivers qualify please visit our website (http://www.nextcomwireless.com/r5000/specials.htm)
News about the new Dish Vip 222 Receiver
A modification for the new dual tuner receiver from Dish Network (model Vip 222) will NOT be forthcoming. The internal design of this unit is a departure from the Vip 211/622 platform, making a capture modification impossible. Although not really offering anything new or different in terms of features and functionality, Dish has chosen to use the Conexant chipset vs. Broadcom for this model.
-R
moshmothma 07-24-07, 10:26 AM Upgrade Specials for older Modifications
Swap/Upgrade to a new modification and get $150 off the price of the mod or new pre-modified Vip 211. Your old hardware is returned to you.
-R
So is this stating if I want to move my mod from my my VIP211 to a Motorola cable box I get $150 off the price of the entire mod?
bwooster 07-24-07, 02:44 PM I built a new PC based on the Shuttle SK22G2 V2.
I installed Windows XP and got all the updates.
I then installed the R5000 software using version 2.5f.
I tried making recordings with a Hughes modified sat box and it did not work.
All I get are files that have lots of blocks of (hex) FF in them.
Then I attached a Proscan modded box (which I know works on my main recording PC) to the new PC and I can't record anything properly. I still get files with blocks of (hex) FF.
Since I have a sat box that works on one PC but not the other I think that something is wrong with the new Shuttle PC. I uninstalled the R5000 software from the Shuttle (strangely enough, files are still left in a R5000 folder even after doing an uninstall) and then tried installing and running different versions of the R5000 software (2.4b, 2.5b).
I get the same garbled recording from different versions.
Has anyone else had these problems? Does anyone have an idea how to fix it?
Thanks for any help.
bwooster 07-24-07, 10:09 PM I got in touch with the R5000 support person. They suggested that my problem my be related to a USB issue.
I installed a Belkin USB 2.0 5-Port PCI card (part # F5U220v1) into my Shuttle and now it works fine with my Proscan R5000 modified box.
The Shuttle has an AMD chip in it and the R5000 support FAQ does mention that there might be some issue with AMD chipsets and their USB ports losing data streamed from the R5000.
Thanks to the Nextcom folks for their quick help!
thurstonw 07-25-07, 01:30 AM So is this stating if I want to move my mod from my my VIP211 to a Motorola cable box I get $150 off the price of the entire mod?
I don't think so. From what I gather looking at the table that's a straight transfer and should be done for $100 (both boxes use the same mod). If you wanted to transfer a modification from say a Dish 6K to the Moto box that would require an "upgrade" since the Moto box is a newer type mod. You would get $150 off the price of a new Moto mod if you sent in the 6K or $250 off if you traded in the entire 6K. That's the way I understand it...
TW
I have been happily using 2 r5000 HD200's with sagetv dvr software (one for c-band, one for starchoice). Going to switch to dish but I am wanting a network media player to play the files recorded from dish over a network. It is my understanding that dish has some channels are h.264 which means my roku hd1000 won't be able to play them over my network. Has anyone tried playing the dish h.264 files with either the Tomacro limHD200i HD or the Tvix M-4100SH to play back dish h.264 files? Sage is eventually going to come out with an HD Extender but who knows when that will be. I really want a box like my roku that will play these files over a network, but there does not appear to be many choices right now.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Darin
Has anyone tried playing the dish h.264 files with either the Tomacro limHD200i HD or the Tvix M-4100SH to play back dish h.264 files?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
DarinI have been using the Tvix M4100SH to play back R5000 H.264 files, and it generally works well with good PQ using 1080i files recorded from Starz-HD and UHD, but there are bugs. FF/RW/Skip does not work well or at all with H.264 files. 720p H.264 files often do not play well, especially over a network. You can read about other bugs in the Tvix thread. The bugs are not annoying enough for me to return the Tvix, because my primary purpose is to be able to play back 1080i feature-length films without significant need to FF/RW/Skip. If these limitations are acceptable to you, then you can get what you can out of the Tvix for now, and provide feedback to people who can improve the performance of the player.
On a separate note, I would like to know if the Sage EPG data includes all the Voom channels at the present time. Titan TV does not provide schedules for some Voom channels. My understanding is that Zap2it will be shutting down its free EPG service soon, but if it is still available with Sage, I might try it.
I have been using the Tvix M4100SH to play back R5000 H.264 files, and it generally works well with good PQ using 1080i files recorded from Starz-HD and UHD, but there are bugs. FF/RW/Skip does not work well or at all with H.264 files. 720p H.264 files often do not play well, especially over a network. You can read about other bugs in the Tvix thread. The bugs are not annoying enough for me to return the Tvix, because my primary purpose is to be able to play back 1080i feature-length films without significant need to FF/RW/Skip. If these limitations are acceptable to you, then you can get what you can out of the Tvix for now, and provide feedback to people who can improve the performance of the player.
On a separate note, I would like to know if the Sage EPG data includes all the Voom channels at the present time. Titan TV does not provide schedules for some Voom channels. My understanding is that Zap2it will be shutting down its free EPG service soon, but if it is still available with Sage, I might try it.
Thanks for your reply on the tvix unit. My understanding is the sage has all of the channels for dish available in their guide data. I have nothing but good things to say about the sage + r5000 product. Great combination. I definately need ff/rew for watching hd locals. It is my understanding that hd locals are h.264 for dish, is that correct? I am also guessing they are 1080i but that is just a guess. If it doesn't play these well and ff/rew, that would be a problem.
Hopefully they will keep up the development so that ff/rew works reliably. I couldn't get anyone to respond in the tomarco limHD200i thread to see if it played these files well. Hopefully someone has some experience with this player and recorded dish files as well.
Thanks again for you reply.
It is my understanding that hd locals are h.264 for dish, is that correct? I am also guessing they are 1080i but that is just a guess. If it doesn't play these well and ff/rew, that would be a problem.
Hopefully they will keep up the development so that ff/rew works reliably.
Thanks again for you reply.My locals are H.264 and a mixture of 1080i and 720p depending upon the network. I would not get my hopes up for a quick fix on H.264 FF/RW, however. Unfortunately, the software decoding options have definite bugs and PQ problems as well, so there is no ideal solution. I prefer to use a VIP 622 for time shifting purposes and the R5000/Tvix M4100SH for recordings that I want to save.
FIOS already is supported.
Cool. I did not see it on their homepage.
Ron Tobin 07-27-07, 07:35 AM Cool. I did not see it on their homepage.
Their homepage does not specifically say that it supports Fios. It says it supports Motorola DCT 2000 series cable boxes, which happens to be what Verizon uses for their standard definition Fios service. However, HD channels are authorized on the standard definition box, therefore the R5000 modification can be made to the Verizion Fios box.
Specifically, the model Fios uses is the 2500. I have a Nextcom modified Fios box with the R5000, and it works beautifully. Full resolution, too, unlike D* and E*.
jones07 07-27-07, 10:35 PM D@mn I'm Fios jealous. I'll be a old man before Philly gets wired
Does anyone else have playback issues for HD content ? For example, I'm using DirecTV with an HDHBO feed
My process is
1) Throw out any file that has a FIFO error or other issue in the log.txt file
2) Process ts file using HDTVtoMPEG2 to strip the front and back end unrelated material. Just creating another TS File. Sometimes I use VideoRedo Plus, but for the most part, I stick with HDTVtoMPEG2 (relatively recent).
3) Strip the null packets using tsnullsaver
4) Playback using any of the following
a) XP w/WMP11 and a PureVideo decoder
b) Playstation 3 after running the file through ffmpeg using Red Kawa's PS3 options since the PS3 doesn't like the audio stream
Display devices are all progressive scanned 720p (although I have a 1080p that I haven't tried)
On playback, I frequently see what appears to be field zippering. What am I doing wrong ?
Thanks,
Mark
Run the files through TSRemux to m2ts file. These files play without a hitch and they do not have size limit. Also you can author an AVCHD (check out RedKawa forum) and with this the ps3 will output 5.1 audio. You can record in compressed mode (without null packets) from the recorder settings.
Wanted to share this. This for anybody with a PS3 and probably other BD player and this is a good way to archive your files on AVCHD discs playable on BD players without re-encoding. This method works with mpeg ts files. h264 ts files produce clips that play sound only without video.
You need Nero and TSRemux. (credit to Dorati and Hollydoc from the doom9 forum)
1)Open NeroVision and create an AVCHD
2)Import a small clip 20-30 sec, disable menus and BURN (use a DVD RW) so you do not waste it.
3) DO NOT close NeroVision after it is done burning. Go to Documents and Settings==>your windows account==> Local Settings==> Temp
You'll find a folder "NeroHDDVDTmp######", copy it to another location, you can rename it AVCHD.
4) Run your video (in my case it is always mpeg ts) file trough TSRemux and generate a Bluray structure (there is a size limit DVD5 or DVD9 so record compressed without null packets). If you burn this structure the ps3 will see it as a data DVD, hence we do all this.
5) Replace the playlist, stream, clipinf folders in the NeroVision generated structure (the renamed folder) with the ones generated by TSRemux. I also replace the ones in the backup folder.
6) Burn the new BDMV folder on the parent directory of a DVD with UDF 2.5. I use Nero Burning ROM.
7) For your next clip repeat steps 4-6.
So the question IS why we do all this? because this is the only way to output 5.1 audio and the original stream is intact (NO re-encoding) on the ps3.
Hope this helps
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