using moyejk's trick it looks like Omaha's local channels are flagged with Copy Once.

That really stinks. Anyone else notice it In the Omaha area or could my 6412 be going bad?


CapDVHS doesn't work either,


ajwees41

I'm on Cox Omaha. Firewire capturing with CapDVHS worked OK today. I hadn't used it for a while, but got it setup again today and I had no issues. I captured 20 minutes of the Cowboys game on CBS (805) w/o problem. Captured several minutes of several other channels - fox (810), nbc (808), inhd2 (823), all worked great.

CCI flag is set to 0 on the channels I checked.

Perhaps it is set to non-zero for some shows?


/Anders

I'm on Cox Omaha. Firewire capturing with CapDVHS worked OK today. I hadn't used it for a while, but got it setup again today and I had no issues. I captured 20 minutes of the Cowboys game on CBS (805) w/o problem. Captured several minutes of several other channels - fox (810), nbc (808), inhd2 (823), all worked great.

CCI flag is set to 0 on the channels I checked.

Perhaps it is set to non-zero for some shows?


/Anders


It's not the HD versions that are flaged copy once it's the non hd versions. (5,8,9,10)

Check those and see please.

I heard it's the brodcast network setting it and not the local channels.

ajwees41

I see what you're talking about now... I think its just decoration. When any letters encroach on the picture, it is greyed out. Thats all I think it is... Anyone have any other guesses?

yea.....I see that now....must be what it is. What does the icon represent anyway? Is that the passport icon?

Anyone hear anything new on Cox switching to the Iguide?

ajwees41

Subscription bug has bitten me a couple of times- but on Comedy Central, a standard digital channel for me.

I've been getting that too but I just shrug it off.

Subscription bug has bitten me a couple of times- but on Comedy Central, a standard digital channel for me.

I've been getting it on random channels at random times. About once a week... SO annoying!

Are you guys getting the message or failed recording or both?

Are you guys getting the message or failed recording or both?

I'll turn on my DVR to watch "Lost". It will say recording failed with 0:00 length recorded. I'll then tune to ABC and it gives me the subscription message screen saying to call Cox to subscribe to that channel. Then, about 5 seconds later the channel will finally tune.

I have two DVRs. It happens on both about once a week.

Sucks... :mad:

I am thinking it's bad software or a signal issue. Last night I was watching an EOD program and accidently pressed exit on the remote and the 6412 phase 3 rebooted.

ajwees41

I am thinking it's bad software or a signal issue. Last night I was watching an EOD program and accidently pressed exit on the remote and the 6412 phase 3 rebooted.

ajwees41

Respectively, I dont see how your reboot has anything to do with the DVR not recording. I had Cox out to my house last summer to look into "weak" signals. They replaced loads of old cable wire, so either they didn't fix the assumed signal problem or it has nothing to do with the signal to begin with.

I have experience some weird reboots myself. If I get too aggressive with the fast forwarding & rewinding, and tap the 10 second reverse button, I've had a reboot. One time it was so bad I had to force it to reboot by holding down the power button for 10 seconds (it was completely locked up).

This is all since the new software upgrade (which included the DVR space remaining indicator in the DVR list screen).

I hope TIVO will iron out all these minor problems.

I was comparing it to the dvr maybe rebooted or a problem with the hard drive.

Igude should be better also.


ajwees41

When I play back from 6412 DVR I cannot get closed captions. Either when turning on the DVR CC (Motorola 6412) or the 1080p TV CC (Digital or Analog). The CC are there when viewing material real time but the same material when played back does not have CC. THis is for HD material. Is there a way to get the CC to work via the DVR from recorded material?
thanks

Anybody using Microsoft Vista yet with thier Motorola DVR? Does capturing work?+

ajwees41

Anybody using Microsoft Vista yet with thier Motorola DVR? Does capturing work?+

ajwees41

I have Vista Ultimate 32 bit version on the test pc, however no FW on there.

Tune the DVR to a 1080i channel. Then On the DVR front panel you turn off the power (with TV on).

THen quickly after turning off the power push the menu button twice. YOu will see 1080 in the display and then the menu will appear on the screen. This only works on 1080i channels.
After enabling the digital captions here, all the selections for font etc will now appear in the user menu so no need to access here any longer.

I've come across a new problem lately. About twice a week, I'll try to just watch a channel and I'll get a new screen I haven't seen before. Its green and says "This channel is temporarily off the air. Try again later".

I was trying to watch NFL football on NBC Sunday night and got this message. I can usually tune away and back and the channel will come to life. On Sunday however, no matter how many times I tuned away and back, it continued to say "Temporarily off the air."

I was beginning to think, "jeez, maybe it really IS off the air!" I went to the kitchen TV hooked directly to the cable wire and NBC tuned in just fine.

I finally had to do a reboot (holding down the power button on the box for 10 secs) to get the channel to show up.

I have two phase III 6412s, and have seen this on BOTH boxes.

Something weird is going on here... Anyone else see this?


(Yay! Post #100!)

Temp off air is usually a signal strength and or quality issue. You can have plenty of strength, but bad quality.

Or Temp offair also could mean the orignal brodcast signal is having problems( technical difficulties)

ajwees41

Well my 6416 does a new trick when the EAS pops up. It flashes a little S-EAS thing across the clock face when it comes on.

Or Temp offair also could mean the orignal brodcast signal is having problems( technical difficulties)

ajwees41

In my experience, when the local goes off air, my 6412 v3 will give black screen on that one channel, not the "Temp Off Air" message. If there is an actuall cable signal issue, then I get "Temp Off Air".

Well my 6416 does a new trick when the EAS pops up. It flashes a little S-EAS thing across the clock face when it comes on.


My 6412 phase 3 does it also. It's a feature of the new passport echo 2.7.

ajwees41

Looks like Cox is launching ESPN2HD in a few markets to replace INHD2 which is going away. So far Cox San Diego and Cox Middle Georgia have announced launches this month and Cox Orange County, CA looks like may happen soon since TitanTV listings for local zip code already list it (though there has been no official announcement to my knowledge).

Anyone else without ESPN2HD already heard something for their market?

Looks like Cox is launching ESPN2HD in a few markets to replace INHD2 which is going away. So far Cox San Diego and Cox Middle Georgia have announced launches this month and Cox Orange County, CA looks like may happen soon since TitanTV listings for local zip code already list it (though there has been no official announcement to my knowledge).

Anyone else without ESPN2HD already heard something for their market?


ESPN2HD and A&EHD launched November 30th in Omaha.

ajwees41

Here's on for the group. I just bought a 70" SXRD XBR2 to replace my 4 year old Toshiba CRT. Now Cox in Virginia Beach (Hampton Roads) just updated to 2.7. Prior to the update I had no problems via HDMI. After the update, every time I change an input or turn off the TV my 6416 resets to 480p. So every time I watch a DVD, play a game or whatever, I have to go back into the setup menu and change my resolution back to 1080i/480i. I have tried this on all 3 DVRs I have in the house and it happens with every box. There is no problem with my other displays. Cox has no answers for me. I though maybe someone here might.

Well bob13654, the easy solution is to use component connection instead for the 6416.

^^^^I know, but I have all my component spots used, including the ones in my AV revceiver. I have two HDMI inputs, but I still have to use an HDMI switch. I would prefer to use HDMI on the cable box as using component really seems to wash out the picture IMO. Even calibrating the component input, HDMI just appears to have a cleaner picture.

The HDMI switch is probably the thing causing your problem. Can you bypass it? On my setup, I have my reciever switching my DVD player and my OTA HD box through component. I have the 6412 v3 using a HDMI to DVI cable.

Just saw that Mosaic is now live for Cox customers in Omaha. Two things - I'd like the ability to change out any of the channels on the three "Zones". Also, bring PIP in yesterday. This is a feature that would be huge for all the TV's out there that don't have it.

Looks like Cox is launching ESPN2HD in a few markets to replace INHD2 which is going away. So far Cox San Diego and Cox Middle Georgia have announced launches this month and Cox Orange County, CA looks like may happen soon since TitanTV listings for local zip code already list it (though there has been no official announcement to my knowledge).

Anyone else without ESPN2HD already heard something for their market?

Hampton Roads is on for that as well, Dec 13th I believe.

Just saw that Mosaic is now live for Cox customers in Omaha. Two things - I'd like the ability to change out any of the channels on the three "Zones". Also, bring PIP in yesterday. This is a feature that would be huge for all the TV's out there that don't have it.


It launched November 30th in Omaha. The Mosaic channels are set at the headend. Cox will not enabled PIP.

ajwees41

My hard drive on my 6416 III went bad and I had to replace the unit today. Took in to Cox in Tulsa and they gave me a 3416 I to replace it with. Lost all the inputs on the front.

Am I going forwards or backwards with this new unit?

My hard drive on my 6416 III went bad and I had to replace the unit today. Took in to Cox in Tulsa and they gave me a 3416 I to replace it with. Lost all the inputs on the front.

Am I going forwards or backwards with this new unit?


That's an all digital dvr. You are going forward. The inputs on the 6412-6416 were not even enabled.

ajwees41

Well none of the inputs worked so it makes since to drop them. You forgot the best part, the box is smaller.

Well none of the inputs worked so it makes since to drop them. You forgot the best part, the box is smaller.

I thought that too, but could not remember the size of the old box. Thanks for the quick replies, I'm feeling better about it now.

Omaha doesn't have plans to switch to the all digital boxes.

ajwees41

Well they should soon.

Well they should soon.


What do you mean? Omaha is not going to carry the all digital boxes. Omaha is all digital with a digital box, but still passes analog to cable ready tv's.

ajwees41

They should switch to the smaller box just to reduce the amount of cabinet space that has to be taken up.

I woke up this morning to find my boxes updated to Echo 2.7.044/TC 12.35 installed here in Irvine.

They should switch to the smaller box just to reduce the amount of cabinet space that has to be taken up.


I also would like the all digital box, but as i said Omaha doesn't plan to carry them.


The all digital boxes are just a little smaller than the 6412-6416 not a big difference.


ajwees41

I just figured out what the bold/not-bold text in 2.7's "DVR List" means (unwatched/watched). Nice!

P-in-P doesn't work, still.

I just figured out what the bold/not-bold text in 2.7's "DVR List" means (unwatched/watched). Nice!

P-in-P doesn't work, still.


Cox Omaha has no plans to enable PIP either. I would guess it's the same for all Motorola markets. SA markets are again ahead of Motorola markets.

ajwees41

So Irvine has 2.7, eh? I hope they're about to roll it out in San Pedro and PV. I'm dying to get the channels I don't watch off of the guide.

OK, we have the update in San Pedro/PV. I read some earlier posts (and some material from the Passport people) that implied you can get the guide to display only your favorites, or at least block out channels you don't want to have to scroll through. I can't figure out how to achieve this. :confused: If anyone has any hints, let me know. I thought putting channels on the "skipped channel" list would do it, but that only works with channel up/down, not the guide.

Mitch Taylor

OK, we have the update in San Pedro/PV. I read some earlier posts (and some material from the Passport people) that implied you can get the guide to display only your favorites, or at least block out channels you don't want to have to scroll through. I can't figure out how to achieve this. :confused: If anyone has any hints, let me know. I thought putting channels on the "skipped channel" list would do it, but that only works with channel up/down, not the guide.

Mitch Taylor


press guide on the remote and then press the a button on the remote to bring up the options and select hide skipped channels.

I think you need to also select use this always.

ajwees41

Thanks! That did the trick. You wish they'd put out at least a little bit of documentation with it. They're online info is terrible.

Mitch Taylor

Thanks! That did the trick. You wish they'd put out at least a little bit of documentation with it. They're online info is terrible.

Mitch Taylor


If you want to talk about an non updated cox website you should look at Omaha's we still have instructions for the old Pioneer ipg the gold and red one, but we now have the white and blue one.

ajwees41

I'm not sure if I'm posting this question in the right place, but here goes:

I've just purchased a Soundmatters Mainstage HD HTIB (which is outstanding, but that's a post for another thread).

I'm trying to track down a code that will allow me to use the Cox supplied "universal" remote to control the Mainstage. I've tried to manual procedure to scan codes, but no luck.

If anyone has an update code list or additional insights, I'd appreciate it.

I'm not sure if I'm posting this question in the right place, but here goes:

I've just purchased a Soundmatters Mainstage HD HTIB (which is outstanding, but that's a post for another thread).

I'm trying to track down a code that will allow me to use the Cox supplied "universal" remote to control the Mainstage. I've tried to manual procedure to scan codes, but no luck.

If anyone has an update code list or additional insights, I'd appreciate it.


What cox remote do you have? Different locations have different remotes. Is it the sliver one with DVR? That one has no upgadability. If your device is to new they don't have a code for it. I have a Sansui DVD/VCR that or old Cox Black DVR had a code for, but the new silver on doesn't.

ajwees41

What cox remote do you have? Different locations have different remotes. Is it the sliver one with DVR? That one has no upgadability. If your device is to new they don't have a code for it. I have a Sansui DVD/VCR that or old Cox Black DVR had a code for, but the new silver on doesn't.

ajwees41

Yeah, I've got the newer silver remote for the HD-DVR.

Yeah, I've got the newer silver remote for the HD-DVR.


Chances are that there is no code for it.

ajwees41

Hello all-

I just got a DVR from Cox yesterday - it's 6416 III I believe. The problem I'm having is the HD channels are choppy. For example, on Discovery HD, the animals will run and a couple seconds are OK and then there'll be like a jump and then OK for a few seconds and then another jump. It's like it just misses a bunch of frames at once.

I checked the signal using the select thingie. I have a signal strength on that channel of 36.7 db and a AGR percentage of 55% - both are listed as good. I have 0 uncorrected and corrected errors so I don't think this is a signal issue. I have a signal booster in the basement on the main line into the house if that makes any difference.

Any leads? I have a Fusion card in my PC and never noted this issue on the HD channels I can get.

Thanks for any help!
Chris

Hello all-

I just got a DVR from Cox yesterday - it's 6416 III I believe. The problem I'm having is the HD channels are choppy. For example, on Discovery HD, the animals will run and a couple seconds are OK and then there'll be like a jump and then OK for a few seconds and then another jump. It's like it just misses a bunch of frames at once.

I checked the signal using the select thingie. I have a signal strength on that channel of 36.7 db and a AGR percentage of 55% - both are listed as good. I have 0 uncorrected and corrected errors so I don't think this is a signal issue. I have a signal booster in the basement on the main line into the house if that makes any difference.

Any leads? I have a Fusion card in my PC and never noted this issue on the HD channels I can get.

Thanks for any help!
Chris

It's AGC not AGR you want it at 50 % or lower for a good picture. I have notced my 6412 phase3 AGC is 50 or below on nice weather days, but if it's hot or cold or windy the AGC goes above 50.

ajwees41

Hello all-

The problem I'm having is the HD channels are choppy. For example, on Discovery HD, the animals will run and a couple seconds are OK and then there'll be like a jump and then OK for a few seconds and then another jump. It's like it just misses a bunch of frames at once.

Thanks for any help!
Chris

Chris, I had the choppy HD video problem on my 6416 also. It is usually solved by Cox sending a reload signal to the box. Try calling Cox Tech Support and ask them to "send a signal" ... that is about all they are good at doing. If that doesn't work, try removing the line amp. A Cox Tech told me you don't want too much strength on digital signals. What works on analog is not always good for digital. If all else fails, you may want to have Cox swap out the box. Hope this helps, good luck.

I don't think that the "choppy" video (I like to call it stuttering video) has anything to do with your signal. With what you posted, your levels and quality are fine. I think it has to do with how the box displays the content. Try letting the program run for a few minutes, then start playback from the begining. The stuttering, if not corrected will be on different frames, indicating that the box did in fact record the content correctly. Another thing that might help would be to make sure that the other tuner is on a SD digital channel. If you are watching recorded content, put both tuners on SD digital channels.

Hope someone can help me with this problem. Have a Moto 6412 Phase 2. Hooked up DVI to HDMI into my Sony XBR 2 along with audio out LR cables into Sony. Have picture but no audio. Unit works using component cables with audio but I feel the PQ is better with DVI connection. How do I get the sound?

Hope someone can help me with this problem. Have a Moto 6412 Phase 2. Hooked up DVI to HDMI into my Sony XBR 2 along with audio out LR cables into Sony. Have picture but no audio. Unit works using component cables with audio but I feel the PQ is better with DVI connection. How do I get the sound?

The DVI output of the Phase 2 box has no sound. DVI doesn't carry sound. You will need to use either the digital output, or red/white analog outputs for sound in addition to the DVI. The Phase 3 box with HDMI does carry sound. So your other choice is to upgrade to the Phase 3 box.

Chris

The DVI output of the Phase 2 box has no sound. DVI doesn't carry sound. You will need to use either the digital output, or red/white analog outputs for sound in addition to the DVI. The Phase 3 box with HDMI does carry sound. So your other choice is to upgrade to the Phase 3 box.

Chris

I did hook up the red/white analog outputs into the Sony. Still no sound.

Do those Red/White inputs correspond to the HDMI input as an alternate (grouped) source for sound? Perhaps the Sony TV expects/requires sound to be on the HDMI cable, or not at all!

personal soapbox alert:
Folks should just use their home theater systems for sound from ALL sources. Why bother with the TV's piddling speakers anyway? If you can afford an HDTV, you should already have an HT system capable fo at least audio switching!

Do those Red/White inputs correspond to the HDMI input as an alternate (grouped) source for sound? Perhaps the Sony TV expects/requires sound to be on the HDMI cable, or not at all!

personal soapbox alert:
Folks should just use their home theater systems for sound from ALL sources. Why bother with the TV's piddling speakers anyway? If you can afford an HDTV, you should already have an HT system capable fo at least audio switching!

Per the Sony manual, connection 7 is for red/white stereo input for DVI devices.

I do have my Moto box hooked into my A/v receiver using Optical Connection and use it daily. However, there are times when this option is impractical. And the speakers on the Sony are not bad at all.

I cannot test this Sony input, but have noted the following mesage on the Moto box when I switch to DVI- It flashes DU 1- Anyone know what this means?

Its merely renegotiating HDMI with the display. Mine does it too. Although I have disconnected and lost my TV's speakers ages ago, so I have no idea whether audio is passed through (perhaps Du 1 really means "I negotiated HDMI, but without Audio. Use an HT receiver!" ;) )

Per the Sony manual, connection 7 is for red/white stereo input for DVI devices.

I do have my Moto box hooked into my A/v receiver using Optical Connection and use it daily. However, there are times when this option is impractical. And the speakers on the Sony are not bad at all.

I cannot test this Sony input, but have noted the following mesage on the Moto box when I switch to DVI- It flashes DU 1- Anyone know what this means?

DU 1 is the box's way of saying DVI. I use a DVI to HDMI cable with the SPDIF out for audio to my TV. I had to configure the TV to use the digital input from the SPDIF with the DVI(HDMI) input since there is no audio input automatically associated with the HDMI.

DU 1 is the box's way of saying DVI. I use a DVI to HDMI cable with the SPDIF out for audio to my TV. I had to configure the TV to use the digital input from the SPDIF with the DVI(HDMI) input since there is no audio input automatically associated with the HDMI.


Guess I'm stuck using component instead. I prefer the SPDIF output to my AV receiver. I'm not happy with this old 6412 Phase II box. 1-100 channels look lousy. Why is RI and New England stuck with these old boxes? My firmware is 10.12 written Aug 2005. From this forum, the Phase III boxes are better with analog transmissions but not sure whether the HDMI issues have been addressed.

Why is RI and New England stuck with these old boxes? My firmware is 10.12 written Aug 2005. From this forum, the Phase III boxes are better with analog transmissions but not sure whether the HDMI issues have been addressed.

New England is not stuck with the old boxes. I received a Phase III 6412 when they first came out (must be close to a year ago). When I had problems with it, Cox replaced the 6412 with a Phase III 6416. At least in CT, the P3 boxes have been around since the beginning.

BTW, I am using HDMI to HDMI for video and SPDIF for audio into my AVR. I have the speakers on the TV turned off. I have tried tried sending the audio over the HDMI connection and did not have a problem but prefer the surround sound system to TV speakers.

New England is not stuck with the old boxes. I received a Phase III 6412 when they first came out (must be close to a year ago). When I had problems with it, Cox replaced the 6412 with a Phase III 6416. At least in CT, the P3 boxes have been around since the beginning.

BTW, I am using HDMI to HDMI for video and SPDIF for audio into my AVR. I have the speakers on the TV turned off. I have tried tried sending the audio over the HDMI connection and did not have a problem but prefer the surround sound system to TV speakers.

You are a lucky one then. I just got this DVR last month and can't understand why Cox gave me a 6412 Phase 2. I would love to have a Phase III to utilize HDMI and also get better analog reception. RI has no CBS, no Fox, lousy SD reception and fewer HD programming than other cable providers. Luckily, I get great OTA HD programming from Boston. There are a lot of RI people just waiting for Verizon to get FIOS up and running and it will be so long COX.

Maybe it is worth stopping by your local Cox office, DVR in hand, and asking to exchange it for a P3 box. I had to exchange one a few months ago because of a hardware problem. The person at the desk wanted to give me a P2 but I asked her for one with the HDMI connection and she found one for me ... no problem.

RI doesn't have CBS or Fox, CT has them but not ABC. Thank goodness for OTA ;)

Maybe it is worth stopping by your local Cox office, DVR in hand, and asking to exchange it for a P3 box. I had to exchange one a few months ago because of a hardware problem. The person at the desk wanted to give me a P2 but I asked her for one with the HDMI connection and she found one for me ... no problem.

RI doesn't have CBS or Fox, CT has them but not ABC. Thank goodness for OTA ;)


Tomorrow, I'm off to Cox to get a P3 box (hopefully). Thanks for your help.

Maybe it is worth stopping by your local Cox office, DVR in hand, and asking to exchange it for a P3 box. I had to exchange one a few months ago because of a hardware problem. The person at the desk wanted to give me a P2 but I asked her for one with the HDMI connection and she found one for me ... no problem.

RI doesn't have CBS or Fox, CT has them but not ABC. Thank goodness for OTA ;)

All three Lin Broadcasting stations.

All three Lin Broadcasting stations.


Well, Cox better wise up. Verizon justed inked deal with LIN to broadcast their stations and if Cox doesn't get agreement signed with LIN, there will be a lot of defections over to Verizon FiOS. The so called agreement with Cox & LIN has been in the wotks for years, and still no resolution.

I am not really sure how I feel about this issue. Is it fair to my parents who have no intention of getting an HDTV to have to absorb some of the cost so that I can get the HD signal? Sure the sale of HDTVs has gone through the roof, but there are still more people without them than with them. Is it fair to them to have to kick in for my enjoyment? At the same time, I have no children in the school system, but some of my tax money pays for other peoples kids. See I really don't know how I feel about this. Should the FCC mandate the rules on what stations can charge per subscriber? Is it the cable company's responsibility to fork over what ever cash the stations demand? I think they do hold some responsibility to attempt to keep the bills as low as they can. I know that while Comcast does have WTNH-HD, my friends pay more for their service than I pay for mine, by quite a bit.

I am not really sure how I feel about this issue. Is it fair to my parents who have no intention of getting an HDTV to have to absorb some of the cost so that I can get the HD signal? Sure the sale of HDTVs has gone through the roof, but there are still more people without them than with them. Is it fair to them to have to kick in for my enjoyment? At the same time, I have no children in the school system, but some of my tax money pays for other peoples kids. See I really don't know how I feel about this. Should the FCC mandate the rules on what stations can charge per subscriber? Is it the cable company's responsibility to fork over what ever cash the stations demand? I think they do hold some responsibility to attempt to keep the bills as low as they can. I know that while Comcast does have WTNH-HD, my friends pay more for their service than I pay for mine, by quite a bit.


My take on the whole Brodcast vs Cox is if they don't charge for the signal over the air they shouldn't be able to charge Cox alot of money just for the HD signal.

ajwees41`

My take on the whole Brodcast vs Cox is if they don't charge for the signal over the air they shouldn't be able to charge Cox alot of money just for the HD signal.

ajwees41`

Ah,

But they charge Cox for the non-HD signal too if I understand correctly.

--Walburega

Ah,

But they charge Cox for the non-HD signal too if I understand correctly.

--Walburega


I mean the local stations don't charge the general public for the ota HD signal. It sounds like the local stations think that since Cox charge a HD rental fee they can charge Cox or any cable company large amounts of money to carry the HD signal. Local stations have two options Must Carry(can't charge for it), or rquire payment and if the Cable company doesn't pay they can't carry it.



ajwees41

Next generation Moto DVR (DCH6400 series) demoed at this year's CES with multi-room viewing capabilities over coax - supposedly up to 4 HD streams at a time can be supported. Here's a short video:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4660-12760_7-6683321.html?tag=cnetfd.mt
Couldn't tell from the video what software was in use, though it didn't look like Passport Echo or Iguide and appeared to have a big Motorola logo at top left of screen in one shot. The video also shows "6412" on the front panel which I assume means a wimpy 120G drive still... Also no indication as to when it will go to production and more importantly if/how long Cox will take to adopt it.

Next generation Moto DVR (DCH6400 series) demoed at this year's CES with multi-room viewing capabilities over coax - supposedly up to 4 HD streams at a time can be supported. Here's a short video:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4660-12760_7-6683321.html?tag=cnetfd.mt
Couldn't tell from the video what software was in use, though it didn't look like Passport Echo or Iguide and appeared to have a big Motorola logo at top left of screen in one shot. The video also shows "6412" on the front panel which I assume means a wimpy 120G drive still... Also no indication as to when it will go to production and more importantly if/how long Cox will take to adopt it.


Verizon is launching FIOS TV in Virginia Beach, VA. They use 6416 Moto boxes and claim they will have multi-room capabilities VERY shortly. They use the Microsoft DVR software... They seem so confident that it will be soon that they included it on their pricing guide. You can have one DVR and regular digital STBs to access the DVR.

Nice to hear from you moyekj! Hows that Series 3 treating you?

6412 is Motorola's designation for the DVR. Internally Cox uses 6412 (120GB series 2) 6413 (120GB series 3) and 6416 (160GB series 3). I doubt very much that anything new will come with anything smaller than the current 160GB hard drive.

Next generation Moto DVR (DCH6400 series) demoed at this year's CES with multi-room viewing capabilities over coax - supposedly up to 4 HD streams at a time can be supported. Here's a short video:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4660-12760_7-6683321.html?tag=cnetfd.mt
Couldn't tell from the video what software was in use, though it didn't look like Passport Echo or Iguide and appeared to have a big Motorola logo at top left of screen in one shot. The video also shows "6412" on the front panel which I assume means a wimpy 120G drive still... Also no indication as to when it will go to production and more importantly if/how long Cox will take to adopt it.


I don't think Cox will get it it would be to nice for us customers. Cox will not even enable PIP on the current hardware

ajwees41

Nice to hear from you moyekj! Hows that Series 3 treating you? Quite surprisingly well actually. I was on vacation out of the country for 3 weeks and it recorded everything it was supposed to - it was nice having the extra recording space since that would not have been possible with the Moto skimpy drive. I'm still trying to catch up on viewing. Over the break Tivo released a software update that fixed the only serious problem I had where OTA NBC HD would cause the S3 to reboot at times (the Cox re-transmission never caused a problem so I was just recording it instead). So now I can go back to recording NBC HD OTA instead of the Cox feed. There are some rumblings coming out in Tivo forums about a Spring update which may include a limited form of TTG and MRV likely only for unencrypted channels. More details need to be discovered but it's a good sign that Tivo is actively pursuing adding those features in one form or another.

ajwees or anyone else that can help,

I currently have the Motorola DCT6416 III digital cable/dvr box from Cox Cable. I am using the HDMI output to my HDTV. Before that...I tried using the coaxial and optical outputs on the back of the box to send audio to my receiver. When I used the coaxial or optical outputs, I didn't get sound output from my receiver. I set up my receiver so the inputs matched correctly....so I know I had that part right. I even had a Cox Cable technician come to my house and check it out. He couldn't figure it out either. He even tried a different box, but no luck.

I don't have a new receiver...it's a JVC RX-888VBK....so I don't know if hooking the digital cable box/dvr would make any difference in the quality of sound I would hear. The receiver has a couple of DSP modes that I would like to try out and see how they sound. Other than those...it only has Dolby Pro Logic.

I don't know if that makes any sense or not....but I can try and ellaborate if need be.

Thanks.

TheCrow, I would suggest you check the Advanced Settings Page and check the digital audio output setting (or something along those lines). There's a toggle to select between DD or PCM for audio. You may want to try toggling that setting to see if it fixes your problem. To get to the Advanced Settings:
# Press Menu to display Quick Settings Menu
# Select A - More Settings
# Scroll through the various settings to find the one related to digital audio

moyeki,

Thanks. I'm going to try that out and see if that changes anything.

Another question. If I do get the optical or coaxial cable to work on this box, do I still need the regular red and white audio cables for non-digital audio broadcasts? Or will everything be transmitted via the optical/coaxial connection?

Thanks again.

Not sure about analog channel stereo - my area had digital simulcast fully implemented such that all channels were digital by the time I was using the coaxial audio output. I think I recall someone saying Omaha is digital simulcasting most channels now as well so may be a non-issue for you as well (since that would mean most/all channels will be digital with DD2.1 or better audio).

Awesome! Thanks a bunch for the help. I am going to try the optical or coaxial cable tomorrow.

:)

Crow: I had the same problem when I went to digital coax (from composite cables) from my cox cable box to my receiver, I have on Onkyo. I had to change a setting on the receiver from analog to coax. On my remote it's called Aud Sel. I wonder if you need to do something similar on your JVC. Also, I go HDMI from the cable to box to DVI on my tv.

If I do get the optical or coaxial cable to work on this box, do I still need the regular red and white audio cables for non-digital audio broadcasts? Or will everything be transmitted via the optical/coaxial connection?

Thanks again.

Crow, if you are using your AVR for all audio you will not need the analog cables. The Moto box sends all audio over the optical o/p. I have mine connected hdmi -> hdmi for video and optical -> AVR for audio. My Pioneer AVR adjusts to whatever the 6416 outputs, stereo on the analog channels and DD5.1 or stereo (depending on what the station is broadcasting) on the digital / HD channels. The 6416 is set to o/p DD, not PCM.

Crow: I had the same problem when I went to digital coax (from composite cables) from my cox cable box to my receiver, I have on Onkyo. I had to change a setting on the receiver from analog to coax. On my remote it's called Aud Sel. I wonder if you need to do something similar on your JVC. Also, I go HDMI from the cable to box to DVI on my tv.


I have a button on my receiver remote that says "Analog/Digital"....I will give that a shot once I have it hooked up again using the optical/coaxial cable. I'm almost positive I tried that before.....but I will give it another shot.

My receiver is about 5-6 years old....so it doesn't have HDMI input on it.

I am currently running an HDMI cable from the cable box/dvr to the back of my HDTV. It gives me an unbelievable picture....but I was hoping to get the best sound possible by using the optical/coaxial connection to my receiver.

I have the digital inputs programmed as such....
1. DBS
2. DVD
3. CD

The first connection is coaxial....and the next two are optical. I guess I'll go with the coaxial connection first and see if that works. Otherwise, I guess I can reassign the inputs and try optical.

Thanks.

Crow, if you are using your AVR for all audio you will not need the analog cables. The Moto box sends all audio over the optical o/p. I have mine connected hdmi -> hdmi for video and optical -> AVR for audio. My Pioneer AVR adjusts to whatever the 6416 outputs, stereo on the analog channels and DD5.1 or stereo (depending on what the station is broadcasting) on the digital / HD channels. The 6416 is set to o/p DD, not PCM.


Allen,

Thanks for the help. Now if I can just get this to work I will be much happier. That's good to know that I will not need the other cables connected....the fewer the better.

Now once I have the cable box/dvr connected to my receiver via optical or coaxial...do I turn my Dolby Pro Logic off? If I am getting a Dolby Digital signal from the cable box/dvr....will my receiver display accordingly.

Also...my receiver has a Dolby/DTS Surround Sound button....should that be activated? That button basically puts my receiver into Pro Logic mode with the way I have the audio coming through the receiver now.

I don't have any experience with your receiver but would think you want Dolby/DTS turned on. You are getting a Dolby Digital signal from the 64xx. Most AVR's automatically sense the input stream, adjust accordingly. and display what is being received. You can override it but I would recommend using your AVR in automatic mode. Check the manual ... there should be instructions for setting up digital inputs.

TheCrow... You might have to break out the manual for your reciever. I know you hate to do it, I hate to do it, everyone hates to do it. Send the wife on an errand, get the manual out. On my reciever, a Denon, I can assign any audio input to any displayed device. For example I have two fiber digital inputs and three coax digital inputs. For the TV input I asigned fiber 1, DVD fiber 2, and OTA HD, coax 1.

Have fun.

Quick question. I recently got the 6412/2000 motorola box and like it. I only have SD, not HDTV. Anyhow, in looking at the amount of time left for recordings, it looks like it only holds 20 hours. From what I have read on this board, it should be much more since I am recording digital, not hdtv. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any replies.

Jim

Quick question. I recently got the 6412/2000 motorola box and like it. I only have SD, not HDTV. Anyhow, in looking at the amount of time left for recordings, it looks like it only holds 20 hours. From what I have read on this board, it should be much more since I am recording digital, not hdtv. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any replies.

Jim

That depends on what channels you are recording.

Does your area have ADS? ie: Full Digital of all channels? are you recording off a HD broadcast channel that is showing HD content?

We have full digital all channels here in Hampton Roads. Unsure what you are asking me regarding ADS? I have only recorded a few things so far and it is a mixture of channels, some local and some regular cable. As I understand all the channels are digital. I have not been recording off the hi def (700 series) channels.

Jim

We have full digital all channels here in Hampton Roads. Unsure what you are asking me regarding ADS? I have only recorded a few things so far and it is a mixture of channels, some local and some regular cable. As I understand all the channels are digital. I have not been recording off the hi def (700 series) channels.

Jim


If you tune to a channel with you dvr below 100 and quickly press select and look at number 6 Chanel Status what does it say?

ADS= Analog/Digital Simulcast Cox Converts thier Analog line to Digital to take up less room.

ajwees41

If you tune to a channel with you dvr below 100 and quickly press select and look at number 6 Chanel Status what does it say?

ADS= Analog/Digital Simulcast Cox Converts thier Analog line to Digital to take up less room.

ajwees41

It says Type: Digital
Inband frequency 681.00000MHz

It says Type: Digital
Inband frequency 681.00000MHz


What channel did you try. If it's not a channel already on the digtal and just copied to a analog channel . You are fully digital through your box, but the analog tv still get the analog signal.

ajwees41

What channel did you try. If it's not a channel already on the digtal and just copied to a analog channel . You are fully digital through your box, but the analog tv still get the analog signal.

ajwees41

Channel 6. I need to amend my post to say it says I have 25 total recording hours. It is a 120 GB hardrive.

Jim

Channel 6. I need to amend my post to say it says I have 25 total recording hours. It is a 120 GB hardrive.

Jim


Does the dvr already have programs on it or is it empty? I have room for about 50 hours on my 6412, but fewer if record in HD.

ajwees41

Does the dvr already have programs on it or is it empty? I have room for about 50 hours on my 6412, but fewer if record in HD.

ajwees41

It has a few recorded programs on it. Under disk info, it says:

0 Saved until manually erased
5 Automatically erased as needed
20 Estimated free space

It has a few recorded programs on it. Under disk info, it says:

0 Saved until manually erased
5 Automatically erased as needed
20 Estimated free space

Would it have anything to do with the video output settings?? Mine was set to 1080i, preserve 4X3 480i.

Would it have anything to do with the video output settings?? Mine was set to 1080i, preserve 4X3 480i.


No it shouldn't

I is 5 hours or 5 programs listed as Automatically erase as needed? If it's 5 programs you need to add up up how many hours those are and add that to the free hours.

ajwees41

No it shouldn't

I is 5 hours or 5 programs listed as Automatically erase as needed? If it's 5 programs you need to add up up how many hours those are and add that to the free hours.

ajwees41

It's 5 hours of recordings. 20 hours free space.

Quick question. I recently got the 6412/2000 motorola box and like it. I only have SD, not HDTV. Anyhow, in looking at the amount of time left for recordings, it looks like it only holds 20 hours. From what I have read on this board, it should be much more since I am recording digital, not hdtv. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any replies.

Jim

Jim,

I think you will find your answer here

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Motorola_DVR/Firmware_and_Software#Recording_Capacity_vs._HDD_Size

I think since you are recording digital content, capacity is 20 hrs.

Jim,

I think you will find your answer here

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_use_a_Motorola_DVR/Firmware_and_Software#Recording_Capacity_vs._HDD_Size

I think since you are recording digital content, capacity is 20 hrs.

You may be right, although that looked like it was referring to high definition recording space. I am recording in standard digital.

Jim

You may be right, although that looked like it was referring to high definition recording space. I am recording in standard digital.

Jim

Don't forget that since the box is a HD DVR (whether or not you ever record HD is irrelevant), it's going to assume HD to estimate the number of available hours.

--Walburga

Jim,

I would switch your settings to 480 I if you do not have HDTV- Your box may be recording at 1080 I which is HD.

It's 5 hours of recordings. 20 hours free space.


It would also make a difference if any of the 5 hours already on the dve dvr were analog.

ajwees41

Don't forget that since the box is a HD DVR (whether or not you ever record HD is irrelevant), it's going to assume HD to estimate the number of available hours.

--Walburga

So what do others on here that have the 6412 show for total disk space under the "view disk info" command? Mine currently varies between 20-24 hours.

Jim

PS...Thanks to folks on here that have tried to help. I appreciate it.

Number of hours remaining is impossible to predict accurately so I wouldn't put much faith in what "view disk info" estimates are. If indeed you are not recording HD or encoding from analog then total capacity for SD digital recordings should be more like 50 hours for a 120G unit, not 25. See following analysis:
http://replayguide.sourceforge.net/dct6412/DCT6412_Passport.html#Sample_Mpeg2_Transport_Stream

Also, there used to be an old "disk space leak" bug which required rebooting the DVR to fix, so you may try rebooting the Moto to see if the given estimates change at all.

So what do others on here that have the 6412 show for total disk space under the "view disk info" command? Mine currently varies between 20-24 hours.

Jim

PS...Thanks to folks on here that have tried to help. I appreciate it.


Mine shows 23hours used and 10 hours free, but mine aren't all hour recordings some are 1 and half or just a half hour, so that's not really accurate.

ajwees41

The raw stream is recorded, then decoden on playback. Changing the output settings will not change how much disk space is used.

MLB EXTRA innings on Directv only

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/20/sports/baseball/20base.html?_r=3&ref=baseball&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

ajwees41

how much memory in this one?

how do you tell how much memory or hours are available for recording?

Currently, I can only see an hour glass next to a recorded program that says it has, say, 2 days before its written over.

So what do others on here that have the 6412 show for total disk space under the "view disk info" command? Mine currently varies between 20-24 hours.

Jim

PS...Thanks to folks on here that have tried to help. I appreciate it.

how do you access the view disk info command?

how do you access the view disk info command?

Press DVR List

Press "A" button

Press view disk info

Jim

Hello,

I live in Orange County, CA, and I have Cox with the 6416 phase 3 DVR. Yesterday, a strange thing happened to my saved and upcoming recordings--the channel numbers on many stations suddenly got "mixed up".

For example: all future recordings for ch 6 (KCET-PBS) suddenly became reassigned to ch 976 (a music channel), and it would proceed to record the music channel. Also, existing recordings of ch 6 would also show as being recorded from ch 976, although the content was intact. This happened to many channels. Also, my favorite and skipped channel preferences was also mixed up in the same way.

The channel guide was unaffected, and a reboot of the DVR did not fix the issue. I had to remove and reschedule all my future records, and reprogram my favorite and skipped channels.

Did this happen to anyone or does anyone know what happened?

Hello,

I live in Orange County, CA, and I have Cox with the 6416 phase 3 DVR. Yesterday, a strange thing happened to my saved and upcoming recordings--the channel numbers on many stations suddenly got "mixed up".

For example: all future recordings for ch 6 (KCET-PBS) suddenly became reassigned to ch 976 (a music channel), and it would proceed to record the music channel. Also, existing recordings of ch 6 would also show as being recorded from ch 976, although the content was intact. This happened to many channels. Also, my favorite and skipped channel preferences was also mixed up in the same way.

The channel guide was unaffected, and a reboot of the DVR did not fix the issue. I had to remove and reschedule all my future records, and reprogram my favorite and skipped channels.

Did this happen to anyone or does anyone know what happened?

Nope. No problem here.

Nope. No problem here.

No problem in Omaha NE.

ajwees41

Hey everyone,

I've got a question for you all and I am not even sure if this is the proper thread to be posting it in. A friend of a friend has a roommate living with him for the semester and he has been getting HBO, Cinemax, and Showtime for free for the last 3 months. See this friend already had a cox dvr receiver from his parents account. When he moved in with his other friend he just hooked up his old box from his parent's house in the new house so that he would receive the digital channels as well as the guide and other features. His parents pay for and receive all 3 of the above mentioned channels. How is it that he is receiving these premium channels even though the house that he is at is not currently subscribed to them? Also can the owner of the house get in trouble for this even though he is totally unaware(or at least was totally unaware). After all, they both have been stealing premium channels. I just want to know if I should tell them to call Cox and get it straightened out. Also, if his friend brings his box to his roommate's house and receives the channels there is it possible for him to get them at his house as well?

Thanks

Hello,

I live in Orange County, CA, and I have Cox with the 6416 phase 3 DVR. Yesterday, a strange thing happened to my saved and upcoming recordings--the channel numbers on many stations suddenly got "mixed up".

For example: all future recordings for ch 6 (KCET-PBS) suddenly became reassigned to ch 976 (a music channel), and it would proceed to record the music channel. Also, existing recordings of ch 6 would also show as being recorded from ch 976, although the content was intact. This happened to many channels. Also, my favorite and skipped channel preferences was also mixed up in the same way.

The channel guide was unaffected, and a reboot of the DVR did not fix the issue. I had to remove and reschedule all my future records, and reprogram my favorite and skipped channels.

Did this happen to anyone or does anyone know what happened?

Firefan - see my posts in the Orange County Cox Forum. I believe your issue is directly related to mine. I went through and adjusted all my skipped channels (last night after they got messed up) and then today they got messed up again. However, I refrained from fixing the series recordings last night. Thank god, as they all returned to normal (like magic) today. This is probably a software issue, as I have three different Moto boxes, but all have the same operating system - Passport Echo. There is at least one other Irvine resident affected by this. BTW, we both called tech support, which, of course, knew nothing of it, and merely "noted our accounts."

Now I'm off to fix (again) my skipped channels and I have 3 DVRs to do it on.

Nope. No problem here.

Same with me in Irvine. A bad box maybe?

Same with me in Irvine. A bad box maybe?

nope, as I have three and others have multiple ones, too - all affected in the same way. It may, however, be isolated to a part of Irvine - the mystery continues

Hey everyone,

I've got a question for you all and I am not even sure if this is the proper thread to be posting it in. A friend of a friend has a roommate living with him for the semester and he has been getting HBO, Cinemax, and Showtime for free for the last 3 months. See this friend already had a cox dvr receiver from his parents account. When he moved in with his other friend he just hooked up his old box from his parent's house in the new house so that he would receive the digital channels as well as the guide and other features. His parents pay for and receive all 3 of the above mentioned channels. How is it that he is receiving these premium channels even though the house that he is at is not currently subscribed to them? Also can the owner of the house get in trouble for this even though he is totally unaware(or at least was totally unaware). After all, they both have been stealing premium channels. I just want to know if I should tell them to call Cox and get it straightened out. Also, if his friend brings his box to his roommate's house and receives the channels there is it possible for him to get them at his house as well?

Thanks

For the most part the box is tied to the account, not the address. As long as that box is still on an account set to receive those channels, it will be able to.

Although it is technically stealing cable, if they cable co ever found out, most likely they wouldn't go after the homeowner where the channels are being received illegally ('owner of the house').

Immoral and illegal: Yes
Untraceable and punishable: Possibly

Press DVR List

Press "A" button

Press view disk info

Jim

I have Cox in RI, and this feature is not available(along with the PIP they advertise on their website). Was this something that was just recently updated, and maybe we're just a little behind?

I have Cox in RI, and this feature is not available(along with the PIP they advertise on their website). Was this something that was just recently updated, and maybe we're just a little behind?

Us New Englanders always seem to be the last for updates from Cox.

--Walburga

I have Cox in RI, and this feature is not available(along with the PIP they advertise on their website). Was this something that was just recently updated, and maybe we're just a little behind?


What software version do you have?

Cox has no plans to enable PIP on the motorola dvr's.

Contact your local Cox and ask why they are advertising it when they don't offer it and they'll say it's for PIP equiped TV's.

ajwees41

How do I check the version?

How do I check the version?

menu
b
down
up
b

or just hit menu and for more choices press the a button and if you can see the tv while in the settings like in the guide you have 2.7 if not it's 2.5.

ajwees41

Firefan - see my posts in the Orange County Cox Forum. I believe your issue is directly related to mine. I went through and adjusted all my skipped channels (last night after they got messed up) and then today they got messed up again. However, I refrained from fixing the series recordings last night. Thank god, as they all returned to normal (like magic) today. This is probably a software issue, as I have three different Moto boxes, but all have the same operating system - Passport Echo. There is at least one other Irvine resident affected by this. BTW, we both called tech support, which, of course, knew nothing of it, and merely "noted our accounts."

Now I'm off to fix (again) my skipped channels and I have 3 DVRs to do it on.

Yes, I had that same issue again yesterday. And my newly recreated series recording got messed up again. However, my existing saved recordings now reflect the proper channel numbers. Hopefully, the first time was a software glitch, and the second time was the fix for the glitch. I hate to have a bad box and have to swap it and lose my existing recordings.

Thanks for the info!

Yes, I had that same issue again yesterday. And my newly recreated series recording got messed up again. However, my existing saved recordings now reflect the proper channel numbers. Hopefully, the first time was a software glitch, and the second time was the fix for the glitch. I hate to have a bad box and have to swap it and lose my existing recordings.

Thanks for the info!

I can assure you it is not a bad box. I have 3 and they all did the identical thing - right down to randomly selecting the same new skipped channels (I guess that isn't random then, is it?). One of my boxes is brand new.

menu
b
down
up
b

or just hit menu and for more choices press the a button and if you can see the tv while in the settings like in the guide you have 2.7 if not it's 2.5.

ajwees41

Thanks. I'm at work right now, so I'll try this later, but based on your description of what the "more choices" guide looks like, I think I have 2.5. Guess I'll have to wait for my area to upgrade. If there is anyone in New England(Specifically RI) that does have 2.7 though, please speak up.

Thanks. I'm at work right now, so I'll try this later, but based on your description of what the "more choices" guide looks like, I think I have 2.5. Guess I'll have to wait for my area to upgrade. If there is anyone in New England(Specifically RI) that does have 2.7 though, please speak up.

Here in CT (Meriden / Cheshire) area, we have 2.5. I have not heard of any plans to upgrade but Cox doesn't release their plans before hand ... even after the update, tech support still doesn't have a clue :(

PIP within the Moto box has never been available. I use my TV, the cable going into a QAM tuner or HD OTA for one picture and the 6416 via hdmi for the other. I am lucky, my TV will display two HD pictures next to each other on the 62" display :)

Here's likely the next generation box for Cox Motorola markets - the Motorola DCH3416:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/02/motorolas-dch3416-m-card-enabled-hd-dvr/
That's right, still only 160GB... unbelievable. At least it's "Follow Me TV" enabled for multi-room viewing with thin clients.

Here's likely the next generation box for Cox Motorola markets - the Motorola DCH3416:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/02/motorolas-dch3416-m-card-enabled-hd-dvr/
That's right, still only 160GB... unbelievable. At least it's "Follow Me TV" enabled for multi-room viewing with thin clients.


Cox markets that have the 6412-6416 might not see it. Omaha doesn't plan to carry the all digital 3412-3416, so they most likely will not carry this.


It will not even do PPV/EOD.

ajwees41

The FCC is making cable companies use boxes with removable security effective July 1, 2007. This effectively means boxes with cable cards. I would bet that even if cox doesn't use the DCH-3416, it would be compatable and you could purchase one yourself and use it. It would also support VOD, since it is OCAP compliant.

don't most of the cox boxes have a smart card slot?

don't most of the cox boxes have a smart card slot?


The 6412's do. None of regular boxes do. (NonHD,NONHD/DVR)

ajwees41

Cox markets that have the 6412-6416 might not see it. Omaha doesn't plan to carry the all digital 3412-3416, so they most likely will not carry this.
It will not even do PPV/EOD. Orange County is using DCT3416 today and likely other markets with digital simulcast fully deployed are or will soon, or they may just wait for the DCH3416. The DCH will do PPV/EOD (and interactive TV) just fine just the way the DCT line does it today - one major difference is the removable security via CableCards. My guess is it will become a heck of a lot easier to install CableCards ourselves once/if these get deployed in mass.

It should make it easier to install cable cards, since the new devices will be two way, the divice should tell the office what the host id and other pairing information it needs.

[I cross-posted this to the moto 6412 forum as well. Sorry if you have seen this already.]

Hello,

I have a 6416 phase 3 with Cox. Whenever I press the REW or FFWD on the remote, it defaults to DVD mode. How can I program it to default to CABLE mode? I can press CABLE to switch to CABLE mode for these buttons, but after 30(?) mins of idle time, these buttons reverts back to DVD default.

The remote is model URC 7820B00.

There doesn't seem to be an option to reset the remote or at least clear the DVD mode on it. Thanks.

[I cross-posted this to the moto 6412 forum as well. Sorry if you have seen this already.]

Hello,

I have a 6416 phase 3 with Cox. Whenever I press the REW or FFWD on the remote, it defaults to DVD mode. How can I program it to default to CABLE mode? I can press CABLE to switch to CABLE mode for these buttons, but after 30(?) mins of idle time, these buttons reverts back to DVD default.

There doesn't seem to be an option to reset the remote or at least clear the DVD mode on it. Thanks.


What remote? Did you try new batteries?

ajwees41

A friend in Laguna Niguel talked to Cox customer service a few days ago. and the service rep said the Tivo software will replace the Passport software this summer. He also said it would not be extra cost, but a replacement. My friend asked if he as sure, and Cox said yes. He also said the home networking was coming soon, but the Cox rep was not sure about a time.

Chris

A friend in Laguna Niguel talked to Cox customer service a few days ago. and the service rep said the Tivo software will replace the Passport software this summer. He also said it would not be extra cost, but a replacement. My friend asked if he as sure, and Cox said yes. He also said the home networking was coming soon, but the Cox rep was not sure about a time.

Chris I suppose there could be a time when one of these reps actually gets information correct, but I highly doubt this is the one.

Expectation I had was Iguide was to replace Passport and Tivo was to become an extra cost option. Comcast/Tivo hasn't even been released yet, so summer time frame for Cox/Tivo sounds a little agressive.

Cox markets that have the 6412-6416 might not see it. Omaha doesn't plan to carry the all digital 3412-3416, so they most likely will not carry this.


It will not even do PPV/EOD.

ajwees41

Cox has deployed both the 64xx and 34xx boxes in the Tidewater VA market. The 32xxs do support PPV/OD.

Cox has deployed both the 64xx and 34xx boxes in the Tidewater VA market. The 32xxs do support PPV/OD.


If you reread my post I said Omaha has no plans to carry the 3412, so they probably will not carry the DCH3416.

ajwees41

Cox Omaha does have the Moto 3416 I. I'm currently using one.

Cox Omaha does have the Moto 3416 I. I'm currently using one.


When did you get it? I emailed them and they said they had plans to carry them.

Maybe they are done with the digital upgrade. Any differences besides no analog tuner?


ajwees41

A friend in Laguna Niguel talked to Cox customer service a few days ago. and the service rep said the Tivo software will replace the Passport software this summer. He also said it would not be extra cost, but a replacement. My friend asked if he as sure, and Cox said yes. He also said the home networking was coming soon, but the Cox rep was not sure about a time.

Chris


According to an email from Omaha tech it will be a $2 increase for Tivo.


That's what said, but they also said prices haven't been finalized.

I wounder if they will run specials or offer discounts for customers already on a discount plan. (Total Home package, and others.)

ajwees41
ajwees41

2 dollars for just the Tivo upgrade isn't bad at all.

Also Cox does have to carry this new box since the older models are not FCC compliant in regards to cablecard and other standards they have in place to take effect this July.

Also Cox does have to carry this new box since the older models are not FCC compliant in regards to cablecard and other standards they have in place to take effect this July. Just to clarify, Cox is under no obligation to replace all their currently deployed DCT boxes with the DCH series. The mandate only requires any newly acquired boxes starting in July to have removable security (i.e. cablecards). So they could continue with the current DCT series of boxes (that they already bought) for years to come if they choose. So, don't expect starting in July that you can replace your DCT with a DCH box right away as there likely will be few if any in stock. It's likely they will try and milk the existing inventory of DCT boxes as long as possible.

I stand corrected then. Although it would be nice if they upgraded but I'm sure they still have there hands full with some other stuff they got coming down the pipes this year.

I wounder what wil replace the Non dvr and Non HD digital boxes? I know they will not replace them at the start, but when the DCT 2000-2500 start to die, or Cox comes out with better services that the DCT 2000-2500 will not run.

ajwees41

ajwees 41; I've had it two weeks now. The HD on the 6412 failed. When I stopped in at the Linden Market store to replace it, the 3416 was all they had. No difference between them, other than the tuner, and maybe the remote and guide work a little quicker.


When did you get it? I emailed them and they said they had plans to carry them.

Maybe they are done with the digital upgrade. Any differences besides no analog tuner?


ajwees41

ajwees 41; I've had it two weeks now. The HD on the 6412 failed. When I stopped in at the Linden Market store to replace it, the 3416 was all they had. No difference between them, other than the tuner, and maybe the remote and guide work a little quicker.


So there is no rf out on the 3416? If you check the free disk space how many hours does say it has?


ajwees41

I stand corrected then. Although it would be nice if they upgraded but I'm sure they still have there hands full with some other stuff they got coming down the pipes this year. Actually even if DCH boxes were to be available I'm not sure if I'd want one right away. There are probably some newer chips being used compared to the DCT but nothing significant as I'm sure the total BOM for the box has to be about the same - and given that dual tuner boxes need 2 cablecard slots (to accomodate single stream cable cards in case multi-stream cards are not available), that's a cost increase that is probably coming at the expense of something else (hopefully not a cost increase Cox will pass along to the users renting the box). So it's not a given that the DCH hardware performance will be much better than the DCT, and we all know via personal experience that new firmware takes quite a long time to become stable. It also could well be, for example, that with initial firmware the firewire port is not enabled or functioning properly and all the tips and tricks we know for the DCT boxes no longer work, etc. etc. So I wouldn't necessarily say that it will be an "upgrade", at least not initially. Probably cable companies consider it more of a burden than a competitive advantage and I don't think they will be going out of their way to get these to their customers.

Does anyone know what the best box you can get from Cox in Tulsa, OK is?

Anyone in Orange County, CA having trouble with the firewire capture?

It had been working fine for me for a while, but the last few days the captures don't play. They are the right size. VLC does play the stream just fine. I also tried MPEG2Repair, and it says the file is no good. So I'm not sure what to try next. I've rebooted the cable box a few times.

It also still kills the FF/RW feature after a capture. I was hoping the 12.35 firmware would have fixed that. Anyone know if we will ever get a fix for that?

Chris

Daylight savings time

Anyone know what needs to be done to the 6412's for the daylight savings time change in March?

ajwees41

Not much just send a little signal to all the boxes from the headend to let em know of the change.

Not much just send a little signal to all the boxes from the headend to let em know of the change.


I know someone who has Cox with Scientific Atlanta box and they needed a software update will the 6412 need one maybe?

ajwees41

It's possible but with the Moto boxes it may not require sending any software updates. Might depend on what the people at the headend can do.

My 6416 Box failed tonight. It won't boot. Just a d1 (or dl) with a flashing cursor. When it first is plugged in, it has an E609. I think the HD died. This is like the 3rd or 4th time I've had a HD fail. It's in a well ventilated area.

Oh well, back to Sand Canyon tommorrow. Luckily I was mostly caught up, so I only missed a few shows. Rome I can capture later in the week.

Chris

Went and picked up my HD-DVR today in Tulsa from Cox. They gave me a 3416! The lady behind the counter said that is all they give out anymore. I didn't get a chance to mess with it much but I did find it really slow on pulling up the menu and other settings, does it take a while for it to get in a groove and cache all its data?

Orange county has firmware 16.35

Omaha is still on 12.35

What's everyone firmware?

ajwees41

Orange county has firmware 16.35

Omaha is still on 12.35

What's everyone firmware?

ajwees41

When did we get 16.35? As of this weekend, mine was 12.35, and tonight my 6416 was dead. Maybe mine died during the update... :D

Does 15.35 fix the FW/RW issue after firewire capture?

When did we get 16.35? As of this weekend, mine was 12.35, and tonight my 6416 was dead. Maybe mine died during the update... :D

Does 15.35 fix the FW/RW issue after firewire capture?


The post by the rock in the orange county cox forum posted at 4:11 A.M. yesterday. He didn't say what box model he has.

ajwees41

The post by the rock in the orange county cox forum posted at 4:11 A.M. yesterday. He didn't say what box model he has.

ajwees41

At 5:30am that same morning my box was dead. So I guess it did die during the update. :(

But I've got a new 3416 box now, and I'll have to reinstall the drivers on the laptop for firewire capture, and setup the season recordings.

Chris

Daylight savings time

Anyone know what needs to be done to the 6412's for the daylight savings time change in March?

ajwees41

This has already started for almost all MSO's. It's automated. The End User does not need to do anything.

Well, I really hosed myself. I ordered HBO and Starz, and decided to pick up a digital box to go along with my 6412DVR. I picked it up on Saturday and when i tried to set it up all I kept getting on the front of the dct2244 was E11, so i tried to 'activate' and refresh it through the automated system, to no avail. I was disappointed but not too much, i thought i would just call in on Sunday and complain...Well, my 6412 somehow died during all the refreshes being sent.. It is now stuck on the 'Passport Echo, please wait screen with 7 bars completed and 4 left to go'. I called and finally talked to someone who wasn't much help. He said my DCT 2244 was dead and needed swapped, but wasnt sure on the 6412 and scheduled a call for Wednessday. I'm stuck watching either heroes or 24 on SD via my replay.. Does anybody think the 6412 could just be swapped out, and if so does Tulsa/Cox have any HD/DVR with hdmi instead of DVI?

I had a 3416 box that also got stuck on the loading screen with 4 bars to go. I had to take it down to the Cox service center and trade for a new one. The new one has been working OK for 2 days now.

Chris

Well, i was able to finally get it to work again without swapping it out. I did a factory reset, and let it download firmware and my information and it seems to be working now.
The indemand problem was caused by the powered amplifier and the monster surge protector. I had to remove both to allow indemand.

I think i meant ondemand, what ever is the one that requires 2-way communication.

Some videos on Motorola's Follow Me TV solution for multi-room DVR viewing:
http://broadband.motorola.com/fmtv/followMeTV_videos.html

Here's a direct link to the demo video:
http://broadband.motorola.com/fmtv/content/Whole_Home_Media_Solution_Demo_WM.wmv

In the demo aside from the normal multi-room video they demonstrate scheduling recordings from a cell phone and also playing DVR recordings from home on that cell phone.

Of course this is all for the DCH series of boxes so will probably be a long while before Cox will adopt this technology and enable the features.

Some videos on Motorola's Follow Me TV solution for multi-room DVR viewing:
http://broadband.motorola.com/fmtv/followMeTV_videos.html

Here's a direct link to the demo video:
http://broadband.motorola.com/fmtv/content/Whole_Home_Media_Solution_Demo_WM.wmv

In the demo aside from the normal multi-room video they demonstrate scheduling recordings from a cell phone and also playing DVR recordings from home on that cell phone.

Of course this is all for the DCH series of boxes so will probably be a long while before Cox will adopt this technology and enable the features.

If it's for the DCH boxes why is it being shown on the 6412?



ajwees41

Info on the different DCH boxes available:
http://www.motorola.com/mediacenter/news/detail.jsp?globalObjectId=7563_7492_23
There are six models in the new Motorola DCH Series of digital cable set-tops:

Motorola DCH100 – An all-digital, standard-definition (SD) interactive cable set-top with an integrated MoCA™ home networking interface.

Motorola DCH200 – A standard-definition interactive digital cable set-top with support for analog services.

Motorola DCH3200 – An all-digital, high-definition interactive cable set-top.

Motorola DCH6200 – A high-definition interactive digital cable set-top with support for analog services.

Motorola DCH3416 – An all-digital, high-definition digital video recorder and interactive cable set-top with a standard 160 GB hard drive for storage of content.

Motorola DCH6416 – A high-definition digital video recorder and interactive digital cable set-top with support for analog services and a standard 160 GB hard drive for storage of content.

All products comply with the FCC separable security mandate with support for CableCARD™ technology. In addition, these products support Motorola’s Linux-Java™ software platform and the Open Cable Application Platform (OCAP)™ initiative.

We might get ota digital on our cable boxes.

ajwees41

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6421259.html

We might get ota digital on our cable boxes.

All 36" and larger sets produced since July 05 have and all mid-sized sets produced since the beginning of this month must have DTV tuners. Also, the feds will subsidize almost the entire cost of a converted box when DTV broadcast becomes mandatory. I just don't see any benefit in developing something that is available from other sources.

I feel that this is going to be a huge benefit down the road. With retransmission contracts being so expensive, I would love to be able to opt out of my locals, which I can pick up OTA, and just keep my expanded lineup through cable. This way, I only have to pay for what I can't get for free.

I feel that this is going to be a huge benefit down the road. With retransmission contracts being so expensive, I would love to be able to opt out of my locals, which I can pick up OTA, and just keep my expanded lineup through cable. This way, I only have to pay for what I can't get for free.

I agree with you there, schmitter, we should be able to pickup ota for free like we do today with analog signals. My only point is that DTV tuners will be included in new sets and available at little or no charge to retrofit older sets. I don't see the point adding it to cable boxes too which could up the rental cost of the box.

All 36" and larger sets produced since July 05 have and all mid-sized sets produced since the beginning of this month must have DTV tuners. Also, the feds will subsidize almost the entire cost of a converted box when DTV broadcast becomes mandatory. I just don't see any benefit in developing something that is available from other sources.
The date for the Midsized sets was July 06 and the date for all TV sets was the beginning of this month.

All 36" and larger sets produced since July 05 have and all mid-sized sets produced since the beginning of this month must have DTV tuners. Also, the feds will subsidize almost the entire cost of a converted box when DTV broadcast becomes mandatory. I just don't see any benefit in developing something that is available from other sources.


That will do customers no good who rent a box from the cable company. Also with retrans with Cox and our local ABC station for thier HD signal going nowhere an over the air digital cable box is a good answer.


If you reread the link I posted it says using the tuner already in the box.

ajwees41

We might get ota digital on our cable boxes.

ajwees41

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6421259.html

I like this idea. And I think it could allow the cable co's to use their bandwidth more sparingly by not having to carry every local HD channel in a market. However, I don't think most people will want to use an antenna unless they live in an area where there is a retransmission standoff between the cable co and one or more stations.

I agree with you there, schmitter, we should be able to pickup ota for free like we do today with analog signals. My only point is that DTV tuners will be included in new sets and available at little or no charge to retrofit older sets. I don't see the point adding it to cable boxes too which could up the rental cost of the box.


Yea, but if I have a DVR and can integrate the OTA into the guide, I can expand my current lineup. I don't get WWLP-DT or WGBY-DT in my Cox lineup, but can get them OTA. We just got The Tube added to our lineup, but I could have had that since launch if I were able to add the OTA to my DVR box. I would be especially happy if I could drop the $13 bucks or whatever it is for the limited basic part of the bill.

I have a 3416 in Tulsa. I went to check on the 5C status of a particular channel, as I was having some odd firewire issues, and I noticed menu 11 changed, so I must have gotten new firmware at some point. Sure enough, I'm at 16.36 now.

Browsing further, I notice most of the debug menus are more verbose. The channel status menu now displays the guide channel as well as the frequency. The Audio/Video status diagnostic now shows the aspect ratio and resolution of the channel last tuned.

The real reason I'm bothering to write is that now, the interface/port status menu has entries for "HMA AUTHORIZED" and "MoCA AUTHORIZED", with HMA being listed as enabled and active. (MoCA says No/No, but has subentries for Internal and External, where Internal is Yes/No and External is Yes/Yes) Might Cox be moving toward sharing shows between DVRs? I only have one DVR, so who knows what I'd see if it were there. I wonder if there's a chance the regular boxes will be able to stream shows from the DVR..if so, it might persuade me to keep it once TiVo S3s come down in price, especially if they enable the eSATA port so I can get more than the pathetic 160GB of storage.

Looking on Aptiv's website, I see that they're demoing multi-room DVR in April..

I have a 3416 in Tulsa. I went to check on the 5C status of a particular channel, as I was having some odd firewire issues, and I noticed menu 11 changed, so I must have gotten new firmware at some point. Sure enough, I'm at 16.36 now.

Browsing further, I notice most of the debug menus are more verbose. The channel status menu now displays the guide channel as well as the frequency. The Audio/Video status diagnostic now shows the aspect ratio and resolution of the channel last tuned.

The real reason I'm bothering to write is that now, the interface/port status menu has entries for "HMA AUTHORIZED" and "MoCA AUTHORIZED", with HMA being listed as enabled and active. (MoCA says No/No, but has subentries for Internal and External, where Internal is Yes/No and External is Yes/Yes) Might Cox be moving toward sharing shows between DVRs? I only have one DVR, so who knows what I'd see if it were there. I wonder if there's a chance the regular boxes will be able to stream shows from the DVR..if so, it might persuade me to keep it once TiVo S3s come down in price, especially if they enable the eSATA port so I can get more than the pathetic 160GB of storage.

Looking on Aptiv's website, I see that they're demoing multi-room DVR in April..


It will not be Aptiv's software. Most likely it will be Motorola's follow me tv. Besides Cox is dumping Passport Echo for the Iguide.

ajwees41

The Follow Me TV technology is likely part of the underlying Motorola firmware and there can be overlay such as Passport/Iguide etc. on top of it that can take advantage of it. Regular non-DVR set tops would need the same underlying firmware capability to communicate with DVR set tops. Could well be that Cox will stick with Passport and add the capability to DVR and non-DVR set tops running Passport. That would be a great addition for sure if it happens... Hopefully sooner than later. That would be funny if Multi-Room Viewing capability comes to Cox DVR sooner than it happens for the Tivo S3.

The Follow Me TV technology is likely part of the underlying Motorola firmware and there can be overlay such as Passport/Iguide etc. on top of it that can take advantage of it. Regular non-DVR set tops would need the same underlying firmware capability to communicate with DVR set tops. Could well be that Cox will stick with Passport and add the capability to DVR and non-DVR set tops running Passport. That would be a great addition for sure if it happens... Hopefully sooner than later. That would be funny if Multi-Room Viewing capability comes to Cox DVR sooner than it happens for the Tivo S3.

Nope Cox is dropping the Passport Echo for the Iguide Omaha is supposed to have it next year.


ajwees41

Nope Cox is dropping the Passport Echo for the Iguide Omaha is supposed to have it next year.

That's not very good. Isn't the predecessor to iGuide the TV Guide branded crap they were using on the DCT2000? Not that that had DVR functionality, but it was not well designed for the hardware it was running on. That thing was awful.

Oh well, at least by that time the TiVo software will hopefully be done..either that or I'll have an S3. I really despise the TV Guide software.

That's not very good. Isn't the predecessor to iGuide the TV Guide branded crap they were using on the DCT2000? Not that that had DVR functionality, but it was not well designed for the hardware it was running on. That thing was awful.

Oh well, at least by that time the TiVo software will hopefully be done..either that or I'll have an S3. I really despise the TV Guide software.


You mean Cox? Nope. they never used Iguide yet. The current guides on the DCT2000 is made by the same Aptiv that makes the Passport Echo.

ajwees41

I'm talking about the guides they were using around 2000. Gold, not blue. That may have just been in the area I lived in, which had been recently acquired from TCA, though.

Looking at the i-Guide site, I'm pretty sure it is a descendant of that software, as I don't think anybody else calls it a "flip bar."

I'm talking about the guides they were using around 2000. Gold, not blue. That may have just been in the area I lived in, which had been recently acquired from TCA, though.

Looking at the i-Guide site, I'm pretty sure it is a descendant of that software, as I don't think anybody else calls it a "flip bar."


Did it look like this?

http://www.cox.com/Support/omaha/cable/proguide2.0.asp

ajwees41

Did it look like this?

http://www.cox.com/Support/omaha/cable/proguide2.0.asp

ajwees41
No, it was the gold colored guide, and TV Guide branded, not Cox branded. At some point, they did switch to a blue guide, but it was just as slow.

Edited to add: It also had ads on the flip bar and in the full screen guide.

No, it was the gold colored guide, and TV Guide branded, not Cox branded. At some point, they did switch to a blue guide, but it was just as slow.

Edited to add: It also had ads on the flip bar and in the full screen guide.

My dad has Charter in MN and they use IGuide... He doesn't have a DVR but its pretty bad... The guide he had would show advertisments on about 40% of the screen as you tried to navigate through the channels. This was three years ago.

Hopefully its been "refined" since then!

No, it was the gold colored guide, and TV Guide branded, not Cox branded. At some point, they did switch to a blue guide, but it was just as slow.

Edited to add: It also had ads on the flip bar and in the full screen guide.


It's the box DCT2000 not software that slow.

ajwees41

IMO, if the company writing the software for the box isn't bright enough to work within the box's limitations, it's their fault, not the box's. Besides, it wasn't just the speed, it was just poorly implemented in many ways.

That applied to TiVo for a while, after they released the S2.5 and before they released the software update that actually ran at a decent speed on the new hardware.

Tvguide squires Aptiv

http://multichannel.com/article/CA6429378.html

hopefully this will mean the guides get updated quicker.

ajwees41

Uh this doesn't look like good news to me. Please Tivo hurry up and get ur stuff ported to Cox fast!!!

I guess we're all doomed to I-Guide (or the extra cost TiVo software, which I would pay for anyway) now.

OCAP is no solution if you're trying to get away from poor software. :(

Maybe it will make IGuide more like Passport, which would be a good thing... I'm still going with TIVO though when available...

Maybe it will make IGuide more like Passport, which would be a good thing... I'm still going with TIVO though when available...


If they continue with passport echo they should color code the different channels like passport dct does.

ajwees41

If anything they'll take the best of passport and put it in there I-guide garbage and just let passport rot.

Hello-

I am a COX customer in the Hartford, CT area. I received a Motorola DCT-6416 Phase III box and have a couple of questions:

1) Should I have any problem getting firewire output to Windows XP (assuming there is no 5C)?

2) Which HD channels have 5C turned on? I assume HBO, etc do and broadcast networks don't, but what about ESPN, TNT, UHD, etc?

Thanks!
Chris

Hello-

I am a COX customer in the Hartford, CT area. I received a Motorola DCT-6416 Phase III box and have a couple of questions:

1) Should I have any problem getting firewire output to Windows XP (assuming there is no 5C)?

2) Which HD channels have 5C turned on? I assume HBO, etc do and broadcast networks don't, but what about ESPN, TNT, UHD, etc?

Thanks!
Chris


The brodcast channels aren't supposed to be protected, but in Omaha the NonHD were CCI 2 which meant once copied to the dvr they couldn't be copied over firewire. For awhile the HD was also CCI2, but it seems to be fixed now.

ajwees41

The brodcast channels aren't supposed to be protected, but in Omaha the NonHD were CCI 2 which meant once copied to the dvr they couldn't be copied over firewire. For awhile the HD was also CCI2, but it seems to be fixed now.

ajwees41

I just checked and all of the 5C implements were set at 0. The firewire ports were inactive because I didn't have my computer hooked so - hopefully I'll be good to go then!

Thanks,
Chris

I just checked and all of the 5C implements were set at 0. The firewire ports were inactive because I didn't have my computer hooked so - hopefully I'll be good to go then!

Thanks,
Chris


The CCI I am tallking about is listed on the channel status page 6.

Turn to a channel you want to get through firewire and press off and the press select to bring the diagnostics and go to number 6 and you want the CCI info to be o.

ajwees41

Just FYI, the new version they recently upgraded me to (16.35, I think) doesn't properly display the 5C implementation flag anymore, so it may not be a reliable indication of whether or not you can record something, even if you have the 1394 port plugged into something.

Just FYI, the new version they recently upgraded me to (16.35, I think) doesn't properly display the 5C implementation flag anymore, so it may not be a reliable indication of whether or not you can record something, even if you have the 1394 port plugged into something.


Does it still list the CCI info?

ajwees41

Yes, it appears to show the CCI flag correctly in the channel status display.

Vista and the 6412

Anyone using Vista and the 6412 with firewire?

That's one of the devices the vista upgrade advisor says is not ready for vista.

ajwees41

This may have already been asked and answered, but I couldn't find it.
I have a new remote for my 6412dvr silver with the ON DEMAND button near the top (URC 7820B00-MOT). My older remote was able to control my tv's PIP/POP and also access the tv's setup menus, but with this newer remote, I can not access pip or setup, whenever i hit the ON-OFF button it flashes the cable button, same with settings, menu.
Is there anyway to let the remote control PIP/POP and menu of TV?

I just had my old hd DVR replaced with a DCH3416 by Cox because of the same problem I still have now. The DVR is connected to my Yamaha receiver through the optical connection, and the receiver shows the inputs from the various channels to be Dolby Digital or Dolby digital II. However, whan I turn to channel 703 only, I get no sound (except some "noise" through the subwoofer), UNLESS, I change the surround setting on my receiver to 5/7 channel stereo.

Might anyone know why this is happening?

This may have already been asked and answered, but I couldn't find it.
I have a new remote for my 6412dvr silver with the ON DEMAND button near the top (URC 7820B00-MOT). My older remote was able to control my tv's PIP/POP and also access the tv's setup menus, but with this newer remote, I can not access pip or setup, whenever i hit the ON-OFF button it flashes the cable button, same with settings, menu.
Is there anyway to let the remote control PIP/POP and menu of TV?
It programs just like any other URC remote, so you can assign whatever code you need if you know the original button code and look up the translation. Since I don't have PIP, I programmed macros to switch around the inputs on my various devices instead.

If it wasn't so completely lacking in ergonomics, I'd probably not have bought the Harmony, since it has so many buttons.

I just had my old hd DVR replaced with a DCH3416 by Cox because of the same problem I still have now. The DVR is connected to my Yamaha receiver through the optical connection, and the receiver shows the inputs from the various channels to be Dolby Digital or Dolby digital II. However, whan I turn to channel 703 only, I get no sound (except some "noise" through the subwoofer), UNLESS, I change the surround setting on my receiver to 5/7 channel stereo.

Might anyone know why this is happening?

I had a similar problem in Palos Verdes with KCET. It turned out to be a problem at the head end. I changed boxes, and had two service calls before they figured it out.

Does anybody think the 6412 could just be swapped out, and if so does Tulsa/Cox have any HD/DVR with hdmi instead of DVI?
Yes, the 3416 which I have. They also have the 6416 Phase III which I have in the living room.
It's the box DCT2000 not software that slow.

Correct to a degree. I Guide is much faster operationally than the tan guide was.

Tulsa had TV Guide prior to passport and it was the now ancient tan guide. I use I-guide everyday and while I'm a bit biased it works well.

Yes, the 3416 which I have. They also have the 6416 Phase III which I have in the living room.

Correct to a degree. I Guide is much faster operationally than the tan guide was.

Tulsa had TV Guide prior to passport and it was the now ancient tan guide. I use I-guide everyday and while I'm a bit biased it works well.


You mean Cox Tulsa? I thought that Cox hasn't used the TVguide software before?
Anybody now when Cox will launch the Iguide software?

ajwees41

Omaha's 3416 are on firmware 16.36.

ajwees41

I searched the best i could but didn't find what i was looking for. Living just north of Wichita, KS had cox just install the 6412 and the On Demand doesn't work. Is it not available here? Or something else wrong. I press the button it goes to CH 1 and tells me to press the select button but nothing happens. Also cant open the menu or change the channel the only way out of that is to unplug the box.

Thanks

I searched the best i could but didn't find what i was looking for. Living just north of Wichita, KS had cox just install the 6412 and the On Demand doesn't work. Is it not available here? Or something else wrong. I press the button it goes to CH 1 and tells me to press the select button but nothing happens. Also cant open the menu or change the channel the only way out of that is to unplug the box.

Thanks


Who installed the box? Has it been authorized?

ajwees41

A cox installer put it in. All other channels work including HD etc. Anything i can check??

A cox installer put it in. All other channels work including HD etc. Anything i can check??

A Cox tech told me the other day that for some unknown reason some customers don't have their accounts flagged for OnDemand. Yes, all digital customers should have it but for some reason a small group isn't flagged for it in their system. A call to Cox should help clarify it it's active for your account.

I searched the best i could but didn't find what i was looking for. Living just north of Wichita, KS had cox just install the 6412 and the On Demand doesn't work. Is it not available here? Or something else wrong. I press the button it goes to CH 1 and tells me to press the select button but nothing happens. Also cant open the menu or change the channel the only way out of that is to unplug the box.

Thanks

Did you try the "Exit" button?

Did you try the "Exit" button?

If it was only that simple....there is something else wrong with it. Have to call Cox about it.

If it was only that simple....there is something else wrong with it. Have to call Cox about it.
Do you have an amplifier? That was my problem.

Now I seem to have a bigger problem my 6412 seems very very slow navigating the menu system or viewing the channel guide.

Do you have an amplifier? That was my problem.

Now I seem to have a bigger problem my 6412 seems very very slow navigating the menu system or viewing the channel guide.


What model is it? If it's not a 6412 phase3 or 6416 that could be the cause of the slow down.

ajwees41

6412 not phase 3, and when on an HD channel the guide is very very (painfully) slow

6412 not phase 3, and when on an HD channel the guide is very very (painfully) slow


Time to upgrade to the phase 3 or a 6416, or a 3412-3416 if you area is all digital and has them in stock.


ajwees41

6412 not phase 3, and when on an HD channel the guide is very very (painfully) slow

I've always had that same problem for the almost 3 years [Aug. '04] I've had my 6412 (original model).

I always just change channels to a non-HD channel before bringing up the Guide. It's been my assumption that the older chip in those boxes just isn't able to handle the higher resolution - like in the computer world, using a low-end video card to drive a higher-res monitor.

--Walburga

The 6416 that I have is also really slow in the guide (or any menu for that matter) while viewing an HD channel. I've always assumed the same as you.

I've always had that same problem for the almost 3 years [Aug. '04] I've had my 6412 (original model).

FYI. It's been discovered Tivo Series3 ESATA external drive interface is functional despite not being officially released by Tivo:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/05/04/how-to-use-your-tivo-series3-esata-port-to-add-an-external-driv/

Is anyone else a member of the Cox Digital Town Hall advisory panel? I took their latest survey today (about proposed new Cox features and technologies) and I voted for Extra DVR Storage and Triple-Tuner DVR as my most wanted features.

Is anyone else a member of the Cox Digital Town Hall advisory panel? I took their latest survey today (about proposed new Cox features and technologies) and I voted for Extra DVR Storage and Triple-Tuner DVR as my most wanted features.

I got one of their email surveys a few weeks back. I also voted for more storage along with the ability to transfer recordings to my PC.

I got one of their email surveys a few weeks back. I also voted for more storage along with the ability to transfer recordings to my PC.

I did the same.

Chris

not sure if this has been discussed but i noticed some changes on this cox box in fort smith arkansas about a week ago. after the addition of a new channel the box has out of the blue become abnormally laggy when viewing the guide while watching an HD channel.

at the same time, i noticed that i can now rewind a certain length of time even on a channel i'm not watching?

as in, i'm watching ESPNHD, i switch to HBOHD, immediately get a phone call so hit the pause button. look up at the playback bar on the TV and notice that i can rewind HBOHD even though i just switched to it a few seconds ago, and not just a little bit, i was able to rewind over an hour on a channel i wasn't watching. this wasn't possible before the last update, the recording for real time functions only applied to the current channel unless i'm mistaken.

am i paranoid or is this feature creep from cox over pausing and rewinding lagging my cable box?

I wouldn't call it paranoia. You can always rewind 2 channels if you use the switch button instead of the last button. I'm not sure about the other stuff.

I've noticed for a while now in Tulsa it has seemed 'laggier' while viewing the menu when i have an HD channel. Also i get more breakups than before when I record two HD channels at the same time.

As far as backing up a channel you just changed too, i suspect that your second tuner was already positioned there. If tuner1 is on ESPNHD and tuner2 is on HBOHD and I am viewing tuner1 and I change to hbohd, it doesn't change tuner1 to hbohd, it switches me to tuner2. I can get both tuners on the same channel, but there is some logic to how it does it.

i didn't think of that, and yeah the last recording was on HBO so i guess that makes sense.

Has anyone seen the below behavoir of the 6412 Phase III (COX-RI) boxes? I have had this behavior for ~4 months now.

When I switch from an HD to an SD channel, the SD channel becomes sluggish and is unwatchable i.e. the picture freezes then unfreezes. My workaround is to switch to another SD channel then go back to the one I was watching. Fortunately this clears the problem.

I have had the same 6412 Phase III box for over 2 years and am wondering if this problem is due to a recent software upgrade. Previously I have never seen this issue.

At first I thought I had a loose cable, but that was not the case. I have a digital box connected via the same splitter and have not had any problems so therefore I do not believe it is a signal problem.

Has anyone seen this behavoir on a 6412 Phase III box?

I should also mention that my output format is set at "1080i Wide, Sidebar 4:3 Pic". I use this format because I occasionally use a projector and utilize a 16:9 screen.

Don't watch SD. :)

Has anyone seen the below behavoir of the 6412 Phase III (COX-RI) boxes? I have had this behavior for ~4 months now.

When I switch from an HD to an SD channel, the SD channel becomes sluggish and is unwatchable i.e. the picture freezes then unfreezes. My workaround is to switch to another SD channel then go back to the one I was watching. Fortunately this clears the problem.

I have had the same 6412 Phase III box for over 2 years and am wondering if this problem is due to a recent software upgrade. Previously I have never seen this issue.

At first I thought I had a loose cable, but that was not the case. I have a digital box connected via the same splitter and have not had any problems so therefore I do not believe it is a signal problem.

Has anyone seen this behavoir on a 6412 Phase III box?

I should also mention that my output format is set at "1080i Wide, Sidebar 4:3 Pic". I use this format because I occasionally use a projector and utilize a 16:9 screen.

I have seen something like that when switching between 2 digital channels and a reboot fixes the issue.


ajwees41

Cox cozying up a little too much with content providers for my taste - experimenting with disabling FF for on demand shows and add placement within shows:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/video-on-demand-deal-bars-ad-skipping/story.aspx?guid=%7BD3E00E8E-DB73-4E1B-BCC8-2FDECF91CAE8%7D

Cox cozying up a little too much with content providers for my taste - experimenting with disabling FF for on demand shows and add placement within shows:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/video-on-demand-deal-bars-ad-skipping/story.aspx?guid=%7BD3E00E8E-DB73-4E1B-BCC8-2FDECF91CAE8%7D


I'd like to see them present the shows two ways:

Free WITH commercials and no FF
$0.99 for a commercial free version that allows FF, RW, PAUSE, ect


It would be interesting to see which would win out

Cox cozying up a little too much with content providers for my taste - experimenting with disabling FF for on demand shows and add placement within shows:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/video-on-demand-deal-bars-ad-skipping/story.aspx?guid=%7BD3E00E8E-DB73-4E1B-BCC8-2FDECF91CAE8%7D


The way I see it the ads will be local.

I would take ad's over paying to watch.


ajwees41

I have made my decision. I will be continuing to DVR the shows, then FF the comercials.

The way I see it the ads will be local.

ajwees41

I would think all ads could be replaced... For example, if you watch a Lost episode from four weeks ago, would they rather you see ads today for Spider Man 3 or Pirates of the Caribbean?

I would think all ads could be replaced... For example, if you watch a Lost episode from four weeks ago, would they rather you see ads today for Spider Man 3 or Pirates of the Caribbean?


I am guessing they will be current, but the article doesn't mention it.

ajwees41

Not only current, but market by market, so In CT we won't see the same ads as Omaha.

I had a 6412 for over a year, and switched to the DISH network's 622. I must say, after using that for a year now, I can safely say its far better than the 6412. One of the most obvious difference is the 250 gig hard drive. but in addition to that, the user interface is much more intuitive and the timers don't screw up as often as the Cox box did.

anyway, there are still advantages to going back to Cox, namely my telephone and internet service use them so it might be nice to have a single bill...also I have more outlets wired for cox than satellite (and its a pain to add satellite ones involves drilling in my walls etc).

So, have there been any major improvements in the 6412? do they finally allow external storage, or do they come with bigger hard drives now? I must say, 250 gigs is MUCh better for HD content than the 120 gig the 6412 came with.

I received a card in the mail today from Cox advertising a product called the DVR Xpander. Apparently this box will give us the long-awaited extra DVR storage nirvana we have all been waiting for. The box is made by a company called Apricorn (http://www.apricorn.com) and you can save 15% with the Cox customer code on the ad. Regular prices are $129 for 250GB, $199 for 500GB or $399 for 750GB.

So my question is this. Is eSATA now activated in the current DVR software? And if so, is this Apricorn box the only thing that can connect to it, or can we just plug in any hard drive enclosure that has eSATA?

I received a card in the mail today from Cox advertising a product called the DVR Xpander. Apparently this box will give us the long-awaited extra DVR storage nirvana we have all been waiting for. The box is made by a company called Apricorn (http://www.apricorn.com) and you can save 15% with the Cox customer code on the ad. Regular prices are $129 for 250GB, $199 for 500GB or $399 for 750GB.

So my question is this. Is eSATA now activated in the current DVR software? And if so, is this Apricorn box the only thing that can connect to it, or can we just plug in any hard drive enclosure that has eSATA?

I don't recall seeing an eSATA port on my Cox DVR. I know it has USB but not eSATA. That link says the device is only for SA DVRs.