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teague
06-06-07, 11:50 PM
I don't recall seeing an eSATA port on my Cox DVR. I know it has USB but not eSATA. That link says the device is only for SA DVRs.

My Cox 3416 (and my older 6416 Series III) both have a eSATA port. I don't think my series II 6412 did though, USB only. But all of these are Motorola. The hard drive noted above only listed Scientific Atlanta boxes as being supported. So I don't think the eSATA port is enabled on these Motorola boxes yet. Hopefully soon.

philspice1
06-06-07, 11:54 PM
My Cox 3416 (and my older 6416 Series III) both have a eSATA port. I don't think my series II 6412 did though, USB only. But all of these are Motorola. The hard drive noted above only listed Scientific Atlanta boxes as being supported. So I don't think the eSATA port is enabled on these Motorola boxes yet. Hopefully soon.

I guess I may have to exchange my older 6412 for one of the newer boxes then.

schmitter
06-07-07, 12:48 PM
Looks like there is only support for SA boxes, not Motorola.

http://www.apricorn.com/product_detail.php?type=family&id=37

oscardeuce
06-27-07, 05:10 PM
I'v got a 6416 series 3, and I've noticed it seems to be rebooting fairly often. I notice it because it's on channel one when I turn it on, instead of the last channel. Once or twice it's rebooted in the middle of watching a program. I was going between recorded and live, and it just shut down and rebooted. Anyone else having this problem?

Grimdeath
06-27-07, 05:15 PM
I'v got a 6416 series 3, and I've noticed it seems to be rebooting fairly often. I notice it because it's on channel one when I turn it on, instead of the last channel. Once or twice it's rebooted in the middle of watching a program. I was going between recorded and live, and it just shut down and rebooted. Anyone else having this problem?

I have two. One I leave ON all the time, the other I switch on and off. Both are set to remember last channel on power-up.
The one I turn On and Off, nearly everyday I turn it on for the first time it is on channel 1 which bugs the heck out of me.
I don't have any issues with the one I leave on all the time.

oscardeuce
06-28-07, 06:40 PM
I'll have to try leaving it on, then. Being on channel 1 on startup isn't too big an issue, but the reboot in the middle of a show I'm recording is a drag.

ajwees41
06-28-07, 06:47 PM
I'll have to try leaving it on, then. Being on channel 1 on startup isn't too big an issue, but the reboot in the middle of a show I'm recording is a drag.


What the tempature of the dvr? If your area has the 3416's it might be a good time to try run of thoose.

ajwees41

oscardeuce
06-29-07, 02:59 PM
I haven't checked temps, I'll do that when I get a chance. It's a 3416 series 3 box.
On another subject, anyone know when Cox is getting more HD content?

tjstoddard
06-29-07, 03:08 PM
Anyone know the diff between a 3416 I and III?

I just traded in my 6412's for two 3416's and got the series I. I did this because I heard the SD channels are supposed to look better, but they don't look much better than what I had. The box is however quieter.

Do I need to go back and get the Series III?

Thanks,
Tom

ajwees41
06-29-07, 03:44 PM
The 3416 is Series 1 not series 3

ajwees41

occasio
06-29-07, 04:59 PM
Keep the 3416. It's the all digital box so it runs cooler which means the fans aren't working as hard & is quieter. That's the DCT-3416 I'm assuming. It looks almost exactly the same as the 6416. The DCH-3416's should be coming out soon.

ajwees41
06-29-07, 05:02 PM
Keep the 3416. It's the all digital box so it runs cooler which means the fans aren't working as hard & is quieter. That's the DCT-3416 I'm assuming. It looks almost exactly the same as the 6416. The DCH-3416's should be coming out soon.


According to Cox Omaha they can still use the DCT

6416-3416 for awhile, so you will most likely get whatever they have in stock.


ajwees41

tjstoddard
06-29-07, 07:38 PM
Ok, so then I have the latest 3416 then?...

ajwees41
07-06-07, 08:36 PM
cox has no solution to this...just upgraded to the dig cable in omaha. plugged the box in and get the guide but no channels. rebooted, refreshed, got a replacement box and still no dice. any suggestions?


What model of box did you get? a HD HD/DVR, or rgular box? did you call and have a signal sent to the box after it was hooked up? It could be a signal problem.

Like I said before I have never seen this happen on our boxes.

ajwees41

occasio
07-06-07, 08:44 PM
I've never seen this either. Do your analog channels come in ok without the box & do you have this issue on any other sets?

dfunk44
07-06-07, 08:45 PM
6414 v3. Cox did send a signal, and I've done the hard reboot off the front of the box. It worked for about 10 seconds initially during the setup. But now it can't get past 7 blue bars on the Passport screen. I have a signal booster in the basement, and I've tried with and without that...I may have to try out the dish since I don't know how much they'll charge me to come out.


What model of box did you get? a HD HD/DVR, or rgular box? did you call and have a signal sent to the box after it was hooked up? It could be a signal problem.

Like I said before I have never seen this happen on our boxes.

ajwees41

Grimdeath
07-06-07, 08:53 PM
I have two Cox (CT) 6416III boxes that received software upgrades last month to ver 16.38 (in code section of backdoor menu, is this the correct #?).

Anyhow, BOTH boxes are freezing at times on the HD feeds for a split second randomly, both video and audio (I don't watch enough SD to know if it happens there).
Jumping back and Replaying the clip that froze results in NO PROBLEM (freeze free), so it is NOT a recorded signal issue.
I've rebooted both boxes and they are no where near full disk capacity.
Has anyone else experienced this recently? Prior to the upgrades, I never had this issue.

ajwees41
07-06-07, 09:28 PM
6414 v3. Cox did send a signal, and I've done the hard reboot off the front of the box. It worked for about 10 seconds initially during the setup. But now it can't get past 7 blue bars on the Passport screen. I have a signal booster in the basement, and I've tried with and without that...I may have to try out the dish since I don't know how much they'll charge me to come out.


It's either a bad box, or a signal problem. They now have all digital boxes.

power off the box and quickly press select to bring the diagnostic menus and post the OOB and INband levels are please.


ajwees41

ajwees41
07-06-07, 09:30 PM
I have two Cox (CT) 6416III boxes that received software upgrades last month to ver 16.38 (in code section of backdoor menu, is this the correct #?).

Anyhow, BOTH boxes are freezing at times on the HD feeds for a split second randomly, both video and audio (I don't watch enough SD to know if it happens there).
Jumping back and Replaying the clip that froze results in NO PROBLEM (freeze free), so it is NOT a recorded signal issue.
I've rebooted both boxes and they are no where near full disk capacity.
Has anyone else experienced this recently? Prior to the upgrades, I never had this issue.


Are you sure it's 16.38? Omaha is on 16.36.

ajwees41

Grimdeath
07-06-07, 10:48 PM
Are you sure it's 16.38? Omaha is on 16.36.

ajwees41

Positive, I checked twice! (Cox Connecticut)

The biggest changes I noticed in 16.38 were that the Advanced settings menus were completely redone and when you choose to erase a recording, you now get a "do you really want to erase it?" sort of prompt. Also, hitting "info" on the title of a recorded program in the "saved show" screen now gives me program information (it used to do nothing). Oh, and mine studders now :D

ajwees41
07-06-07, 10:59 PM
Positive, I checked twice! (Cox Connecticut)

The biggest changes I noticed in 16.38 were that the Advanced settings menus were completely redone and when you choose to erase a recording, you now get a "do you really want to erase it?" sort of prompt. Also, hitting "info" on the title of a recorded program in the "saved show" screen now gives me program information (it used to do nothing).

Omaha already has that with 16.36. I bet the diferent numbers are do to the entertainment on demand software might be different.

ajwees41

dfunk44
07-07-07, 01:35 PM
Yep the analog comes in just fine. Got a newer box (3416?) this morning and the same result. A rep was nice enough to send somebody out gratis finally so we'll see...


I've never seen this either. Do your analog channels come in ok without the box & do you have this issue on any other sets?

ajwees41
07-07-07, 01:42 PM
Yep the analog comes in just fine. Got a newer box (3416?) this morning and the same result. A rep was nice enough to send somebody out gratis finally so we'll see...


You can't view the analog channels on a 3416 since it doesn't have an analog tuner.

ajwees41

dfunk44
07-08-07, 08:23 AM
That's without the box, same outlet.

You can't view the analog channels on a 3416 since it doesn't have an analog tuner.

ajwees41

walford
07-08-07, 12:45 PM
With Cox OC they multicast channels 2-67 on both analog and on totally separate digital channels so when they issue you a 3416 instead of a 6416 you receive a digital transmission of the analog channels and can still select an analog channel number and you get it sent to you in digita instead.

moyekj
07-08-07, 12:58 PM
With Cox OC they multicast channels 2-67 on both analog and on totally separate digital channels so when they issue you a 3416 instead of a 6416 you receive a digital transmission of the analog channels and can still select an analog channel number and you get it sent to you in digita instead. In OC if you have a 6416 you also get the digital versions of the channels instead of the analog. That's also true if you use cable cards. So there really is no advantage using 3416 other than for Cox those boxes are a little cheaper than the 6416 because of missing NTSC tuners and more importantly (more expensive) mpeg encoders. I don't know if the 3416 is better at decoding SD digital than the 6416 - the 6416 was awful at that from my experience and the Tivo S3 blows it away in that regard.

ajwees41
07-08-07, 01:07 PM
With Cox OC they multicast channels 2-67 on both analog and on totally separate digital channels so when they issue you a 3416 instead of a 6416 you receive a digital transmission of the analog channels and can still select an analog channel number and you get it sent to you in digita instead.


I know I have a 3416 in Omaha and have the digital vesion of the analog, so there must be an account or signal, or box issue.

moyekj yes it runs better than the 6416 also it run cooler since there is no analog tuner.

ajwees41

El_Scorcho
07-08-07, 03:31 PM
I'm on a different provider (Metrocast) but just received the update for Echo Passport 2.7 on my 6412.

Ever since that I've seen noticable hiccups on playback of recorded shows -- audio will drop and the picture stutters, like a skipped CD.

Love the new group feature though -- now you can group delete and group play multiple episodes. That is very nice. Would rather have skip free program playback though than that :).

Noticed two things:
1. The free space available is awfully low on mine. I have a 120 GB drive and very little recorded at this point but it says I only have 19 hours of recording space available. I've tried doing a soft reboot and a hard reboot...but maybe I'll have to do a full format to get this fixed? (Feel free to give me suggestions)

2. On some channels when I hit the program guide (ie guide on remote) there is a little blue and white star next to the channel. Does anyone know WTF this star means? The cable tech said it was if it's an HD show but since I don't get Nick in HD or Military Channel, I don't think that's the case. I thought it might be an E/I flag, but the star was on Friday Night Lights on FX as well. It's not becuase it's a movie. Anyone know what it is?

mat123
07-08-07, 04:06 PM
2. On some channels when I hit the program guide (ie guide on remote) there is a little blue and white star next to the channel. Does anyone know WTF this star means? The cable tech said it was if it's an HD show but since I don't get Nick in HD or Military Channel, I don't think that's the case. I thought it might be an E/I flag, but the star was on Friday Night Lights on FX as well. It's not becuase it's a movie. Anyone know what it is?

I think it means its a "favorite" channel

mat123
07-08-07, 04:08 PM
1. The free space available is awfully low on mine. I have a 120 GB drive and very little recorded at this point but it says I only have 19 hours of recording space available. I've tried doing a soft reboot and a hard reboot...but maybe I'll have to do a full format to get this fixed? (Feel free to give me suggestions)


How much HD do you have recorded? I heard that HD takes up 6 times the amount of space as an SD recording.

On my 6412, I get about 55 hours of digital recording space.

El_Scorcho
07-08-07, 04:48 PM
Right now I only have 1 or 2 HD shows recorded maybe 2 hours total.

As far as the favorites go -- does that mean favorite as in the system analyzes what I'm watching and marks it a favorite? That would make sense. I watch Rescue Me quite a bit on FX.

I didn't pick that channel as a favorite in the settings, is what I mean.

schmitter
07-09-07, 09:10 AM
I am not sure what the logic is for "Auto favorites" but I noticed the same thing. A couple of channels I watch were added by the system.

As for stuttering, I found that changing from 1080i to 720p fixed it for me.

paudemge
07-09-07, 03:50 PM
I've noticed a lot more 'stuttering' also, i'll try 720p and see if that helps. I was just going to go down to the cox office and ask for a new box

ajwees41
07-09-07, 05:47 PM
I'm on a different provider (Metrocast) but just received the update for Echo Passport 2.7 on my 6412.

Ever since that I've seen noticable hiccups on playback of recorded shows -- audio will drop and the picture stutters, like a skipped CD.

Love the new group feature though -- now you can group delete and group play multiple episodes. That is very nice. Would rather have skip free program playback though than that :).

Noticed two things:
1. The free space available is awfully low on mine. I have a 120 GB drive and very little recorded at this point but it says I only have 19 hours of recording space available. I've tried doing a soft reboot and a hard reboot...but maybe I'll have to do a full format to get this fixed? (Feel free to give me suggestions)

2. On some channels when I hit the program guide (ie guide on remote) there is a little blue and white star next to the channel. Does anyone know WTF this star means? The cable tech said it was if it's an HD show but since I don't get Nick in HD or Military Channel, I don't think that's the case. I thought it might be an E/I flag, but the star was on Friday Night Lights on FX as well. It's not becuase it's a movie. Anyone know what it is?

How many hours of record programs do you have? I think the 6412's only hold about 30 hours total. 6416 holds about 50 hours. It will also depend if the programs are HD,Digital or Analog.

ajwees41

El_Scorcho
07-14-07, 08:11 PM
One cable tech came, swapped out the 6412 with another 6412 and we had the same problem.

The second tech came yesterday. Apparently my signal level was -9 which is not good if you have digital phone. They did something at the pole and got the level to -3 which I guess is good. This came at the expense of my other HD box and the regular coax making this an epic clusterfrick. Both of these signals to those boxes are very staticy, as if I'm watching a show with rabbit ears.

Anyway I STILL have the problem with the 6412.. They think it's the Echo Passport 2.7 software that's the issue now. There's not much else that can be done unless there's a rollback. Here's hoping they rollback the update because I'm seriously thinking about going to DTV

Grrr...

ajwees41
07-14-07, 10:05 PM
One cable tech came, swapped out the 6412 with another 6412 and we had the same problem.

The second tech came yesterday. Apparently my signal level was -9 which is not good if you have digital phone. They did something at the pole and got the level to -3 which I guess is good. This came at the expense of my other HD box and the regular coax making this an epic clusterfrick. Both of these signals to those boxes are very staticy, as if I'm watching a show with rabbit ears.

Anyway I STILL have the problem with the 6412.. They think it's the Echo Passport 2.7 software that's the issue now. There's not much else that can be done unless there's a rollback. Here's hoping they rollback the update because I'm seriously thinking about going to DTV

Grrr...

How the free space on the new one?

ajwees41

El_Scorcho
07-14-07, 11:41 PM
Using the DVR information button (list/A/List Free Space) with a totally clear system (ie no recorded shows and no scheduled recordings), it said I had 25 hours available.

This is the 120GB drive.

ajwees41
07-16-07, 08:21 PM
Using the DVR information button (list/A/List Free Space) with a totally clear system (ie no recorded shows and no scheduled recordings), it said I had 25 hours available.

This is the 120GB drive.

If you record something for an hour and then remove it do the numbbers change?

In Omaha on cox if I record something and then remove it the hours don't match.

example

it says 18 free hours if record an hour and then delete it it says 19-20 hours free.

ajwees41

ajwees41
07-16-07, 09:04 PM
front panel led's blinking

anybody have a motorola dvr where the time binks from dim to bright?

ajwees41

paudemge
07-16-07, 09:09 PM
I don't pay too much attention to the free hours, it fluctuates quite a bit, but usually after a reboot, it will show more space available then it did before the reboot.

I think you can use this to find information on available space:
with 6412 on
Press Cable
Power off
Select
Select
d13 PVR/HDD STATUS
should show some helpful information.

I'm recording hell's kitchen now so I can't test it.

schmitter
07-17-07, 09:25 AM
If you record something for an hour and then remove it do the numbbers change?

In Omaha on cox if I record something and then remove it the hours don't match.

example

it says 18 free hours if record an hour and then delete it it says 19-20 hours free.

ajwees41


Does the box figure out what you have scheduled as far as digital/hd/analog, then calculate time based on pending recordings?

ajwees41
07-17-07, 10:44 AM
Does the box figure out what you have scheduled as far as digital/hd/analog, then calculate time based on pending recordings?


I only record digital no Hd.

Cox is Omaha is now using the 3416 all digital no analog tuner.

ajwees41

ZippoMan
07-28-07, 10:04 PM
Today COX dropped off a DCT6412 III and HDMI does not work with my Westinghouse 42" 1080p LCD - it says something about HDCP Authentication Failed. I just moved and had to switch from Time Warner. When I had Time Warner they gave me an identical looking STB and HDMI worked just fine. My new box has firwmare 16.38. Any thoughts?

ajwees41
07-28-07, 10:17 PM
Today COX dropped off a DCT6412 III and HDMI does not work with my Westinghouse 42" 1080p LCD - it says something about HDCP Authentication Failed. I just moved and had to switch from Time Warner. When I had Time Warner they gave me an identical looking STB and HDMI worked just fine. My new box has firwmare 16.38. Any thoughts?


Could be a bad box.


ajwees41

ZippoMan
07-30-07, 11:08 PM
Could be a bad box.


ajwees41

Well I tried everything and finally gave up. I went to a COX store and traded in my old 6412 for a brand spanking new 3416 - this thing looks awesome and HDMI works like a champ! They said it came out last week.

http://www.cybertheater.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/motorola_dch3416_440.jpg

ajwees41
07-31-07, 08:25 AM
Well I tried everything and finally gave up. I went to a COX store and traded in my old 6412 for a brand spanking new 3416 - this thing looks awesome and HDMI works like a champ! They said it came out last week.

http://www.cybertheater.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/motorola_dch3416_440.jpg


thats the one with cable cards in it

ajwees41

moyekj
07-31-07, 02:50 PM
I hadn't seen this article before claiming Cox goal is to have capacity for up to 50 HD channels by end of 2007 and 100 by end of 2009:
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6453819.html

The bad news (for me anyway) is one of the major means of obtaining that goal will be the deployment of Switched Digital Video.

Also note that while the goal may be to have CAPACITY for 50 HD channels I sincerely doubt there will be that many HD channels in the lineup any time soon even if/when capacity is there.

schmitter
07-31-07, 03:52 PM
thats the one with cable cards in it

ajwees41

Only has 1 card, a single M card does both streams.

philspice1
08-01-07, 05:30 PM
Have there been any updates on when Cox will be adding Tivo to their DVRs? I haven't heard anything since the initial announcement last year.

moyekj
08-01-07, 05:58 PM
Have there been any updates on when Cox will be adding Tivo to their DVRs? I haven't heard anything since the initial announcement last year. Comcast/Tivo deployment has been delayed and not even released yet but I think slated for trial markets "soon". Once Comcast/Tivo is released then one would expect Cox/Tivo to follow a few months later.

ajwees41
08-09-07, 06:52 PM
Comcast/Tivo deployment has been delayed and not even released yet but I think slated for trial markets "soon". Once Comcast/Tivo is released then one would expect Cox/Tivo to follow a few months later.


I read a article that said by the end of this year Cox/Tivo

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003592783


ajwees41

moyekj
08-22-07, 12:52 PM
Well we knew it would happen eventually:
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6470803.html
Implication is anyone using CableCards in Cox markets where SDV is rolled out won't be able to tune the set of channels that are put under SDV umbrella. This year the affected Cox markets will be Fairfax VA, Phoenix AZ, Orange County CA.

kevinbr100
08-25-07, 04:16 AM
all of a sudden I get no video through firewire, last time confirmed worked ok was a few days ago. ive had it working for years with no issues, now the record file is 0 bytes, did cox shutdown the firewire output? anyone else having issues? i rebooted my box and computer with no change, thx!

thats on any channel analog, digital cable, unencrypted hd, encrypted hd, no errors from dvhs record software, hardware still recognized, plenty of hard drive space, i'm stumped for the moment

moyekj
08-25-07, 11:42 AM
all of a sudden I get no video through firewire, last time confirmed worked ok was a few days ago. ive had it working for years with no issues, now the record file is 0 bytes, did cox shutdown the firewire output? anyone else having issues? i rebooted my box and computer with no change, thx!

thats on any channel analog, digital cable, unencrypted hd, encrypted hd, no errors from dvhs record software, hardware still recognized, plenty of hard drive space, i'm stumped for the moment Someone in Cox Orange County CA posted about same problem:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11393589&postcount=3040
Was there a firmware update recently on the DVR boxes?

moyekj
08-25-07, 01:18 PM
Well we knew it would happen eventually:
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6470803.html
Implication is anyone using CableCards in Cox markets where SDV is rolled out won't be able to tune the set of channels that are put under SDV umbrella. This year the affected Cox markets will be Fairfax VA, Phoenix AZ, Orange County CA. Good news: A potential fix/workaround (at least for Tivo boxes) to workaround the SDV issue looks like is in the works:
http://ibc.broadcastnewsroom.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=175784

kevinbr100
08-25-07, 05:21 PM
Someone in Cox Orange County CA posted about same problem:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11393589&postcount=3040
Was there a firmware update recently on the DVR boxes?


thx for the reply, i think there was an update, as my box was powered off 2 days in a row. i moved over to that other thread, sounds like my problem is identical to his

schmitter
08-27-07, 09:18 AM
Good news: A potential fix/workaround (at least for Tivo boxes) to workaround the SDV issue looks like is in the works:
http://ibc.broadcastnewsroom.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=175784

Cool.

Maglin
08-28-07, 06:41 PM
I just moved to the Wichita, KS Cox market. I ended up with a DCT6412 III. I haven't hooked it up using HDMI yet but it's on my list. I have a 50" DLP and basically I don't like the 6412 I have. The menu is slow as in it takes 3-5 seconds for the guide to come up and sometimes when changing channels using the Favorite guide it will change to a channel that isn't even close to the one I wanted to go to. The guide will at times pop up an hour or 2 ahead of the current time and of course I don't notice it until I change to that channel.

Basically I'm wondering if I should try to exchange this box for the 3416 and if their are any advantages to doing so. Or is the SD output on the 6412 phase 3 better than the 3416? Cause the output isn't to bad but the slowness and buggyness of the guide is irritating to say the least.

teague
08-28-07, 09:33 PM
I went from the DCT 6416 to the 3416. It does run a little cooler, but that's about it. It's still a little slow, and it all works the same to me.

moyekj
09-06-07, 08:18 PM
FYI: Awesome news! Official Tivo announcement that Multi Room Viewing (MRV) and Tivo To Go (offloading content to a PC) will be officially released to Tivo Series 3 and HD platforms in November:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=365225

ajwees41
09-06-07, 08:29 PM
FYI: Awesome news! Official Tivo announcement that Multi Room Viewing (MRV) and Tivo To Go (offloading content to a PC) will be officially released to Tivo Series 3 and HD platforms in November:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=365225


And this pertains to the cox dvr how?

ajwees41

moyekj
09-06-07, 08:43 PM
And this pertains to the cox dvr how?

ajwees41 A good alternative to it... (and note the FYI prefix)

ajwees41
09-06-07, 10:32 PM
A good alternative to it... (and note the FYI prefix)

I didn't notice the FYI, but it make me wonder if this will allow the tivo software on the cable dvr's to include more features with the tivo software upgrade.

ajwees41

ajwees41
09-12-07, 05:34 PM
Good news: A potential fix/workaround (at least for Tivo boxes) to workaround the SDV issue looks like is in the works:
http://ibc.broadcastnewsroom.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=175784


I wonder if this would also work on the cablecard tv's?

moyekj
09-12-07, 05:49 PM
I wonder if this would also work on the cablecard tv's? I don't know many TVs that have a USB 2.x port that this particular solution requires so it's definitely not a generic UDCP solution.

Tulsa62
09-17-07, 12:19 AM
thats the one with cable cards in it

ajwees41

Any advantages or disadvantages to the new one over the old 3416 that I have except the better looks?

ajwees41
09-17-07, 12:27 AM
Any advantages or disadvantages to the new one over the old 3416 that I have except the better looks?



There no difference except security is on a cable card now.

Tulsa62
09-17-07, 11:06 AM
There no difference except security is on a cable card now.


Thanks, I don't post a lot of questions on here, but I think you have answered every one that I have asked. I appreciate your input.

moyekj
09-20-07, 11:54 AM
FYI: Cox Communications is adding several Discovery Communications high-definition channels to its lineup:
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6479888.html?nid=3347

AMRivlin
09-21-07, 02:12 PM
So I guess Irvine will get this in 2009 and all other areas 2011

occasio
09-21-07, 02:36 PM
b4 Christmas

AMRivlin
09-21-07, 04:21 PM
Well we haven't even gotten AEHD or Stars HD, I doubt they can cram 4 more on, when our upgrades for the last batch aren't complete.

But nice to hear positive news.

moyekj
09-21-07, 04:33 PM
Well we haven't even gotten AEHD or Stars HD, I doubt they can cram 4 more on, when our upgrades for the last batch aren't complete.

But nice to hear positive news. Once the 750->860MHz upgrades are complete there will be plenty of room to accomodate 4 additional HD channels. In fact that upgrade alone gives you capability of 20 additional RF channels which theoretically could accommodate 40-50 additional HD channels if the entire bandwidth is dedicated to video only (which I doubt will be the case).

Plus Cox is adding SDV capability (limited markets for now) in addition to bandwidth expansion which will mean more efficient utilization of existing bandwidth.

apaulct
09-21-07, 04:54 PM
Here in CT, we currently have 26 HD channels on Cox ... got two of the Discovery channels and FSN this week:

Locals:
ABC - NBC - CBS - Fox - PBS - CW - MyTV9

Cable networks - no additional charge:
ESPN - ESPN II - Discovery Theater - Discovery - MOJO - TNT - Universal - National Geographic - A&E - NESN (Red Sox) - YES (Yankees) - Fox Sportsnet - TLC - MHD

Subscription:
HBO - Showtime - Cinemax - Starz - NFL Network

Cox is not doing digital simulcasting yet but seam to have the bandwidth for the 26 HD channels. Cox, just keep em coming :)

ajwees41
09-21-07, 05:01 PM
Here in CT, we currently have 26 HD channels on Cox ... got two of the Discovery channels and FSN this week:

Locals:
ABC - NBC - CBS - Fox - PBS - CW - MyTV9

Cable networks - no additional charge:
ESPN - ESPN II - Discovery Theater - Discovery - MOJO - TNT - Universal - National Geographic - A&E - NESN (Red Sox) - YES (Yankees) - Fox Sportsnet - TLC - MHD

Subscription:
HBO - Showtime - Cinemax - Starz - NFL Network

Cox is not doing digital simulcasting yet but seam to have the bandwidth for the 26 HD channels. Cox, just keep em coming :)

How uch ar you charged for the NFLHD?

moyekj
09-21-07, 05:03 PM
Cox is not doing digital simulcasting yet but seam to have the bandwidth for the 26 HD channels. Cox, just keep em coming :) If that's true then the fact that they are not digital simulcasting there means they have more room than other markets who are simulcasting which is why they have room for additional HD channels. (simulcasting means they broadcast digital versions of some or all analog channels in addition to analog channels which takes up quite a lot of extra room. For example if they have to digital simulcast 70 analog channels then that's about 7 RF channels needed for digital simulcasting or the equivalent of 14-20 HD channels)

apaulct
09-21-07, 05:39 PM
How uch ar you charged for the NFLHD?

Cox does not charge specifically for the NFL network, it is part of the Digital Sports and Information package. If you subscribe to that package, you get the NFL network and NFL-HD included.

ajwees41
09-21-07, 05:43 PM
Cox does not charge specifically for the NFL network, it is part of the Digital Sports and Information package. If you subscribe to that package, you get the NFL network and NFL-HD included.

The way it was listed it was under subscription not Cable networks - no additional charge

You should say NFLHD free with subscription to Sports tier.

schmitter
09-24-07, 09:14 AM
Here in CT, we currently have 26 HD channels on Cox ... got two of the Discovery channels and FSN this week:

Locals:
ABC - NBC - CBS - Fox - PBS - CW - MyTV9

Cable networks - no additional charge:
ESPN - ESPN II - Discovery Theater - Discovery - MOJO - TNT - Universal - National Geographic - A&E - NESN (Red Sox) - YES (Yankees) - Fox Sportsnet - TLC - MHD

Subscription:
HBO - Showtime - Cinemax - Starz - NFL Network

Cox is not doing digital simulcasting yet but seam to have the bandwidth for the 26 HD channels. Cox, just keep em coming :)



Check again, I think Digital simucast was fired up last week in Cheshire.

apaulct
09-24-07, 09:53 AM
Check again, I think Digital simucast was fired up last week in Cheshire.
Thanks for the head's up, schmitter. The old analog channels are now showing up as QAM 256 - but can't see any difference in quality.

schmitter
09-26-07, 12:09 PM
The biggest difference would be if you had an older series 2 dvr. The analog to digital converter in that box wasn't nearly as good as the one in the series 3.

paul172
10-05-07, 06:35 AM
The biggest difference would be if you had an older series 2 dvr. The analog to digital converter in that box wasn't nearly as good as the one in the series 3.

I noticed a great improvement in my analog picture. I have an older converter box and live in Southington, CT. How can I tell if we have been converted.

ajwees41
10-05-07, 01:06 PM
I noticed a great improvement in my analog picture. I have an older converter box and live in Southington, CT. How can I tell if we have been converted.

Tune to an analog channel and turn the box off and quickly press select and go to the current channel status menu and if it says Qam 64 or 256 you are converted.

ajwees41
10-07-07, 01:54 AM
any news on new cox guides (iguide,Tivo,or OCAP)

ajwees41

prosu
10-10-07, 09:46 AM
Any news about expanding storage on the 6412 boxes? With the new HD channels I have just been getting killed on the time available and losing shows...

ajwees41
10-10-07, 12:46 PM
Any news about expanding storage on the 6412 boxes? With the new HD channels I have just been getting killed on the time available and losing shows...



They have a 6416 or 3416 in some areas.

AMRivlin
10-10-07, 02:42 PM
=TOO MUCH TV, WILL ROT BRAIN, hahaa :)

Any news about expanding storage on the 6412 boxes? With the new HD channels I have just been getting killed on the time available and losing shows...

moyekj
10-11-07, 02:59 AM
any news on new cox guides (iguide,Tivo,or OCAP)

ajwees41 Same old story on Comcast/Tivo - "a little delayed":
http://www.news.com/TiVos-Comcast-rollout-behind-schedule/2110-1038_3-6212545.html?tag=nefd.hed
I've seen several articles stating Cox/Tivo will be ~ 6 months behind Comcast/Tivo public rollout so don't expect anything until well into 2008, maybe even 2009 before available in many/most Cox markets. At least Cox being 6 months delayed gives a chance for Comcast customers to beta test & weed out the severe bugs before Cox customers get a hold of it.

esb1981
10-11-07, 08:47 AM
Check again, I think Digital simucast was fired up last week in Cheshire.

Any idea when digital simulcast will be rolled out in Suffield?

ajwees41
10-11-07, 03:48 PM
Same old story on Comcast/Tivo - "a little delayed":
http://www.news.com/TiVos-Comcast-rollout-behind-schedule/2110-1038_3-6212545.html?tag=nefd.hed
I've seen several articles stating Cox/Tivo will be ~ 6 months behind Comcast/Tivo public rollout so don't expect anything until well into 2008, maybe even 2009 before available in many/most Cox markets. At least Cox being 6 months delayed gives a chance for Comcast customers to beta test & weed out the severe bugs before Cox customers get a hold of it.

That article talks about SA areas not Motorola areas. They were supposed to get soon as postested in the http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=682350&page=65

Comcast id roll out the tivo http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akACGX6yFYR4

moyekj
10-11-07, 06:24 PM
That article talks about SA areas not Motorola areas. They were supposed to get soon as postested in the http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=682350&page=65

Comcast id roll out the tivo http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=akACGX6yFYR4 Seems like an extremely slow rollout is planned from Tivo's point of view: TiVo may reach as many as 3 percent of Comcast's DVR subscribers in 2008, Piper Jaffray & Co. analyst Michael J. Olson said today in an interview. Olson estimated that Comcast would have 6.66 million DVR subscribers next year.
``The impact in 2008 is relatively small,'' Olson said. TiVo's ability to tap into a large percentage of Comcast's DVR subscribers is ``limited because of the timing of the roll-out'' and the region-by-region strategy, he said. Still I guess that puts the estimate at about 200K DVR subscribers with the Tivo service by end of 2008 which would not be too shabby.

moyekj
10-16-07, 01:08 PM
According to this post the Comcast/Tivo software rolling out on Motorola DVRs in select Comcast markets will be only $2.79/month more than the regular DVR software:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5601964&&#post5601964
If it's true then perhaps the Cox/Tivo software if/when it finally becomes available should not be that much more than the current solution.

ajwees41
10-18-07, 05:48 AM
Anyone hear of software updates on the motorola boxes? Both the dvr and regular digital were downloading new software on wednesday morning. I haven't noticed any changes.

moyekj
10-21-07, 03:52 AM
FYI: Some early details on the Comcast/Tivo solution on DCT3416 box (STILL in beta) posted here:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5617789&&#post5617789
No MRV (as expected), but perhaps more surprising no 30 sec skip hack...

ajwees41
10-21-07, 03:59 AM
FYI: Some early details on the Comcast/Tivo solution on DCT3416 box (STILL in beta) posted here:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5617789&&#post5617789
No MRV (as expected), but perhaps more surprising no 30 sec skip hack...

nice find thanks

moyekj
10-24-07, 02:16 AM
OT: For those that may have missed the news, Tivo launched official support for Multi Room Viewing, Transfers to PC and eSATA hard drive expansion today for the Series 3 & HD units:
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/tivo-updates/tivo-upgrades-its-series-3-and-tivo-hd-313857.php

moyekj
10-25-07, 02:28 PM
Yet another OT related to Tivo (quiet thread these days): Here's the official Comcast/Tivo page:
http://www.comcast.com/tivo/

moyekj
11-16-07, 03:38 AM
Here's an interesting article revealing Cox's plans for bandwidth expansion in the next few years:
http://www.onetrak.com/ShowArticle.aspx?ID=2870&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

philspice1
11-20-07, 05:43 PM
A few weeks ago I got my first TV with HDMI. I connected my Motorola 6412 DVR with a DVI>HDMI adapter. Ever since then, the DVR will freeze up if the TV is turned on without the DVR being switched on. Has anyone else notice this problem? Cox is completely clueless when I call them and I am about ready to throw my DVR into the street.

scanpa
11-20-07, 06:02 PM
always leave the STB in the ON Mode. There is no point to setting the STB to standby mode.

tjstoddard
11-20-07, 11:30 PM
A few weeks ago I got my first TV with HDMI. I connected my Motorola 6412 DVR with a DVI>HDMI adapter. Ever since then, the DVR will freeze up if the TV is turned on without the DVR being switched on. Has anyone else notice this problem? Cox is completely clueless when I call them and I am about ready to throw my DVR into the street.

You can also get an HDMI box(6416 or 3416) from Cox, then you will only need one cable for Audio&Video.

ajwees41
11-20-07, 11:38 PM
A few weeks ago I got my first TV with HDMI. I connected my Motorola 6412 DVR with a DVI>HDMI adapter. Ever since then, the DVR will freeze up if the TV is turned on without the DVR being switched on. Has anyone else notice this problem? Cox is completely clueless when I call them and I am about ready to throw my DVR into the street.

It's a known issue in thhe comcast forums you need to leave the dvr on like scanpa said.

ajwees41
12-07-07, 12:57 PM
bad day for cable

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6510595.html

walford
12-07-07, 02:40 PM
I have a 6412 III which has a a HDMI output. You shuld be able to get your cable company to replace yours with one.
Also you save no power by turning "off" the 6412. All you do is stop it from sending a signal to your TV. The 6412 disk drive runs 365x24 as does the processor in case it needs to start to record a program.

AMRivlin
12-07-07, 02:46 PM
I got the NON DVR HD box, why are the menus so much uglier, you don't even get the channel logo!!! And why are the settings limited? Shouldn't it be the same firmware, just DVR button is deactivated?

ajwees41
12-18-07, 07:13 PM
I got the NON DVR HD box, why are the menus so much uglier, you don't even get the channel logo!!! And why are the settings limited? Shouldn't it be the same firmware, just DVR button is deactivated?

I think you are confused the software/guide is what is different and why it looks different on a non dvr hd box the firmware might be the same.

ajwees41
12-20-07, 10:13 AM
cox will continue using the Passport DCT and PassportEcho and also switch the SA users to it also.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6514432.html

mat123
12-20-07, 08:55 PM
cox will continue using the Passport DCT and PassportEcho and also switch the SA users to it also.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6514432.html

I wonder what this means for the I-Guide agreement? TIVO?

ajwees41
12-20-07, 09:28 PM
I wonder what this means for the I-Guide agreement? TIVO?

well since Tvguide bought Aptiv which was inturn bought by microvision I think cox is sticking with the passport dct and passport echo guides.

ajwees41
12-30-07, 05:28 PM
Does anyone know if the rf out and the HDMI will work at the same time on a 3416? My non hd tv is going out, and would like to hook a new HDTV up through HDMI, but I use the rf out currently to a tuner card in my pc to make dvd's of my recordings

thanks

ajwees41

walford
12-31-07, 11:04 AM
AFAIK it works. But I want to point out that you will get better quality video if you can use S-Video instead of RF from your 3416 to your PC's tuner/video capture card.

Bud-man
01-04-08, 02:54 PM
Finally Cox has the DCH3416 boxes, picked one up yesterday, this morning before i went to work i hooked up a 160gb external closure drive i use and hooked it in the front usb port, in settings it shows it recognizes the drive and says what it is, in the dvr status it does not show more space, i will screw around more tonight, might need a boot of both devices.

AMRivlin
01-04-08, 03:13 PM
the 3416 supports this officially by moto and cox? News to me.

ajwees41
01-04-08, 04:14 PM
the 3416 supports this officially by moto and cox? News to me.

he mentioned the DCH3416 not the DCT 3416

AMRivlin
01-04-08, 05:14 PM
ah, what is the diff, does it offer multi room support via a think client?

Is it out in OC?

occasio
01-04-08, 05:26 PM
The DCH has been out for a while in Hamp Roads but the firmware had yet to come out that enables multiroom or external HD support. Though it detects the HD it is not usable.

Bud-man
01-04-08, 06:00 PM
In diagnostic's USB with the External is a YES YES, disconnect the usb it says NO, so it does recognize it, under d11 Interface/Port Status.
Going to page 4 it lists..............
USB Devices
1 USBDISK001 Mass Storage
Cypress Semicondu Usb2.0 Storage DE
Which is prob the model of my USB Enclosure.

ajwees41
01-04-08, 08:20 PM
The DCH has been out for a while in Hamp Roads but the firmware had yet to come out that enables multiroom or external HD support. Though it detects the HD it is not usable.

I really don't think it the firmware, but the guide software that will enable the multiroom dvr.

ajwees41
01-24-08, 05:59 PM
what would cause the dvr to reboot when checking singnal strength on a channel that should be avalable, but is blank?

When I tune to the chanel and do the b,up,b,down it causes the box to reboot any ideas before calling for a service call and the blame the internal wiring . It has worked for a while, but since the begining of the week certain channels don't come in.

Steve Wilcox
01-28-08, 09:59 AM
what would cause the dvr to reboot when checking singnal strength on a channel that should be avalable, but is blank?

When I tune to the chanel and do the b,up,b,down it causes the box to reboot any ideas before calling for a service call and the blame the internal wiring . It has worked for a while, but since the begining of the week certain channels don't come in.
I think I've seen what you're describing. When you do the Menu-Down-B-Up-B thing, you get different slices of information by pressing A, B or C. For me, it always comes up with C by default. I can also select B with no problem. But when I select A, the box reboots. This behavior began many months ago after a firmware upgrade. No idea what changed; now I just use it as a way to reboot with the remote. :) BTW, I get the same effect on both a 6412 and a 6416.

moyekj
01-30-08, 07:04 PM
FYI: Some early details on the Comcast/Tivo solution on DCT3416 box (STILL in beta) posted here:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5617789&&#post5617789
No MRV (as expected), but perhaps more surprising no 30 sec skip hack...
Well, the 30 sec skip hack on Comcast/Tivo has been discovered, so that's a big improvement for that solution.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12974226#post12974226
Now it's time for a Cox press release indicating when Cox/Tivo will be available. This would be one big plus over Passport Echo which doesn't have a 30 sec skip capability.

ajwees41
01-31-08, 04:00 AM
Well, the 30 sec skip hack on Comcast/Tivo has been discovered, so that's a big improvement for that solution.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12974226#post12974226
Now it's time for a Cox press release indicating when Cox/Tivo will be available. This would be one big plus over Passport Echo which doesn't have a 30 sec skip capability.

wasn't it supposed to come out 6 months after Comcast/Tivo?

Hopefully it will be in the Omaha area by July, so i can order it as my birthday present to myself.

ajwees41
02-27-08, 05:17 PM
somethine new on the guide I noticed today

there is now a TVGuide icon down by a button on the guide.

moyekj
03-05-08, 06:33 PM
Tivo announced today that Cox/Tivo trials will be launching (I assume soon) in Cox New England market:
http://investor.tivo.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=297873
In addition, we are announcing today that the TiVo service on Cox is currently in tech trials and we will be launching in Cox's New England market

oscardeuce
03-07-08, 05:12 PM
I notice a new version of Passport seems to be up in the San Pedro/Palos Verdes market. Anyone know what's changed in this iteration?

kcrudup
03-09-08, 09:06 PM
I notice a new version of Passport seems to be up in the San Pedro/Palos Verdes market. Anyone know what's changed in this iteration?
It's in the OC, too. MoyeKJ gave us this (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19890701-) link.

oscardeuce
03-10-08, 04:28 PM
Man, I hope that 30 second skip works! I'll have to try it out tonight. I'd noticed the new graphics, and the guide is definitely faster. The "one moment" graphic is nice, you can tell the remote worked even if the guide takes a second, so you don't keep hitting the button.

moyekj
03-10-08, 05:00 PM
Man, I hope that 30 second skip works! I'll have to try it out tonight. I'd noticed the new graphics, and the guide is definitely faster. The "one moment" graphic is nice, you can tell the remote worked even if the guide takes a second, so you don't keep hitting the button. Doesn't work for Cox Orange County - looks like they intentionally disabled it.

oscardeuce
03-11-08, 06:33 PM
Yep, they don't like making it too easy to skip those wonderful commercials. I thought it was too good to be true.

ajwees41
05-13-08, 04:05 PM
http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=153666&site=cdn

cox to launch new guides in 2009 on HD/HD DVR

chuckip
05-13-08, 11:35 PM
I lost the red "Record Light" function several months ago with the latest Firmware Download.

I can work around it by just checking the record list for the little red "Target Button" but that is a pain, especially when my system is off....Although the recording reliability is prolly 95% or more, it was "comforting" to see that little red light on the DCH3416 screen to KNOW that what you wanted to record was actually being recorded.

Does anyone with this same glitch have any idea if or when Cox is going to fix this with another Firmware Update???

Chuck Proche

ajwees41
05-13-08, 11:45 PM
I lost the red "Record Light" function several months ago with the latest Firmware Download.

I can work around it by just checking the record list for the little red "Target Button" but that is a pain, especially when my system is off....Although the recording reliability is prolly 95% or more, it was "comforting" to see that little red light on the DCH3416 screen to KNOW that what you wanted to record was actually being recorded.

Does anyone with this same glitch have any idea if or when Cox is going to fix this with another Firmware Update???

Chuck Proche

most likely when motorola gets it fixed comcast is in the same boat.

Grimdeath
05-14-08, 07:29 AM
I lost the red "Record Light" function several months ago with the latest Firmware Download.

I can work around it by just checking the record list for the little red "Target Button" but that is a pain, especially when my system is off....Although the recording reliability is prolly 95% or more, it was "comforting" to see that little red light on the DCH3416 screen to KNOW that what you wanted to record was actually being recorded.

Does anyone with this same glitch have any idea if or when Cox is going to fix this with another Firmware Update???

Chuck Proche

I had two things happen with the last Cox firmware upgrade:
(1) Lost the record lights
(2) Audio switches from AC3 to PCM on BOTH my boxes at the same time at least once a week. Once this happens, I can't set it back to AC3 in the Menu. Only a hard reboot will get both boxes working properly again. Very annoying.
BTW, I have DCH3416's. Totally different recievers connected, both report PCM at the same time.

phdeane
05-14-08, 10:57 PM
I had two things happen with the last Cox firmware upgrade:
(1) Lost the record lights
(2) Audio switches from AC3 to PCM on BOTH my boxes at the same time at least once a week. Once this happens, I can't set it back to AC3 in the Menu. Only a hard reboot will get both boxes working properly again. Very annoying.
BTW, I have DCH3416's. Totally different recievers connected, both report PCM at the same time.

Yes, I have this problem, too. It only happens on my 3416. I have reported this to Cox - at least in Orange County. If you haven't already, you should do the same.

Grimdeath
05-14-08, 11:02 PM
Yes, I have this problem, too. It only happens on my 3416. I have reported this to Cox - at least in Orange County. If you haven't already, you should do the same.

Yes, I have reported the PCM issue to the Cox call center in RI (I am in CT).
I was discouraged when the tech didn't know what PCM and AC3 was.
I too encourage more people to report this issue; hopefully we'll get it through.

ajwees41
08-13-08, 12:35 PM
Yes, I have this problem, too. It only happens on my 3416. I have reported this to Cox - at least in Orange County. If you haven't already, you should do the same.

like I already have said cox and comcast are in the same boat since it's a motorola firmware problem.

kcrudup
08-13-08, 01:22 PM
When I get my box switched into "PCM" mode like that what helps me is to hit "Swap" or to pull up another show from the DVR menu. After that my box and reciever will resync. Only occasionally do I have to power-cycle the box.

phdeane
08-13-08, 02:04 PM
When I get my box switched into "PCM" mode like that what helps me is to hit "Swap" or to pull up another show from the DVR menu. After that my box and reciever will resync. Only occasionally do I have to power-cycle the box.

Thanks for the tip; I'll give it a try next time it happens. I've actually grown used to this issue and it does have its benefits - namely it causes me to reboot occasionally, which can't be a bad thing. Unfortunately, most of the time I realize it is an issue, I inevitably have something recording and forget to reboot. This certainly pales in comparison to the failed recording issues of the past...

phdeane
08-13-08, 02:04 PM
like I already have said cox and comcast are in the same boat since it's a motorola firmware problem.

Wow! That is one delayed response. :)

Grimdeath
08-13-08, 06:15 PM
When I get my box switched into "PCM" mode like that what helps me is to hit "Swap" or to pull up another show from the DVR menu. After that my box and reciever will resync. Only occasionally do I have to power-cycle the box.

I can't get out of PCM except if I reboot.
It'd be nice if they fixed the record LEDs too.

teague
08-18-08, 09:34 PM
Anyone heard anything about hooking up an external hard drive to these boxes? It's been rumored for over a year. With all the Olympics and such, my 160 GB drive get's filled up all the time. I'd be happy to buy a 500GB external drive if I could hook it up.

Chris

ajwees41
08-18-08, 09:58 PM
Wow! That is one delayed response. :)

I mean why keep reporting the same issue if it's already been reported.

phdeane
08-19-08, 12:04 AM
I mean why keep reporting the same issue if it's already been reported.

Squeaky wheel gets the grease and it's been nearly six months since this bug was first reported. The more that report, the better. Besides, my comment to the OP was made nearly three months before your reply to mine. I'm personally glad others are starting to get frustrated with it and I hope the trend continues.

ajwees41
10-05-08, 10:28 AM
Is there a problem with guide data? I used to get a weeks full of info, but it's now down to 5 days.

phdeane
10-06-08, 02:26 AM
Is there a problem with guide data? I used to get a weeks full of info, but it's now down to 5 days.

I have the full week still. Perhaps it is localized to Omaha?

Makaveli6103
11-04-08, 10:49 PM
Is there a problem with guide data? I used to get a weeks full of info, but it's now down to 5 days.

Yea I only get 5 days ahead also...also considering moving to TIVO.

ajwees41
11-04-08, 11:16 PM
Yea I only get 5 days ahead also...also considering moving to TIVO.

What cox box do you have? The dvr's are back to showing a full week of data.

bhaaf
11-15-08, 12:10 PM
Anyone heard anything about hooking up an external hard drive to these boxes? It's been rumored for over a year. With all the Olympics and such, my 160 GB drive get's filled up all the time. I'd be happy to buy a 500GB external drive if I could hook it up.

Chris

Anybody know the answer to this one. I would like to do the same.

teague
11-15-08, 12:24 PM
Anybody know the answer to this one. I would like to do the same.

Cox told me they don't have any expansion options or larger hard drives right now. I'm now renting a second box, which helps, but isn't the best option since we can't network the PVR's.

OmahaTVAddict
02-04-09, 08:43 PM
So I went to the office here in Omaha out on the westside. They gave me a DCH 3416 since two moto boxes in a row have crapped out on me. So far so good this unit is working and looks pretty good.

ajwees41
02-04-09, 11:06 PM
So I went to the office here in Omaha out on the westside. They gave me a DCH 3416 since two moto boxes in a row have crapped out on me. So far so good this unit is working and looks pretty good.

what models did you have before? is the box all black? The DCH 3416 I have seen at my sister's who lives in Papillon have one which is sliver like the dct models. does the record light work?

phdeane
02-04-09, 11:28 PM
what models did you have before? is the box all black? The DCH 3416 I have seen at my sister's who lives in Papillon have one which is sliver like the dct models. does the record light work?

The DCH 3416 is silver. I believe it is the latest that Cox offers. The record light issue was fixed a couple weeks ago, along with the Dolby Digital issue.

ajwees41
02-04-09, 11:37 PM
The DCH 3416 is silver. I believe it is the latest that Cox offers. The record light issue was fixed a couple weeks ago, along with the Dolby Digital issue.

the pic OmahaTVAddict posted looks like an all black one that's why I asked. I have an older style dct 3416 that I might replace any problems with the new dch box?

phdeane
02-04-09, 11:48 PM
the pic you psted looks like an all black one that's why I asked. I have an older style dct 3416 that I might replace any problems with the new dch box?

Actually it was OmahaTVAddict that posted the picture. Perhaps he changed it because it appears to be silver. Either way, my only complaint was the record light / DD issues. Now that they've been fixed, I have no complaints. I believe the difference between the DCT and DCH is that the latter has an all-digital tuner.

ajwees41
02-05-09, 12:01 AM
Actually it was OmahaTVAddict that posted the picture. Perhaps he changed it because it appears to be silver. Either way, my only complaint was the record light / DD issues. Now that they've been fixed, I have no complaints. I believe the difference between the DCT and DCH is that the latter has an all-digital tuner.

the dct 3412-3416 i all digital


the dch have cable cards

phdeane
02-05-09, 12:19 AM
the dct 3412-3416 ys all digital


the dch have cable cards

I stand corrected: http://www.motorola.com/Business/US-EN/Business+Product+and+Services/TV+Video+Distribution/Customer+Premises+Equipment+%28Set-tops%29/All-Digital+QAM+Set-tops

OmahaTVAddict
02-05-09, 06:11 PM
My box is silver with a black front on it and yes it has a M-card. So far it's working like it should. Also the record light is working.

ajwees41
02-06-09, 12:13 AM
My box is silver with a black front on it and yes it has a M-card. So far it's working like it should. Also the record light is working.

does the dch have rf out?

phdeane
02-06-09, 12:39 AM
does the dch have rf out?

Yes, at least my DCH 3416 does.

ajwees41
02-06-09, 12:49 AM
Yes, at least my DCH 3416 does.

when Omaha first had the 6412 dvr they where not equiped with rf out and I need that to connect to my tv tuner in my pc.

different area's order it differently.

phdeane
02-06-09, 01:06 AM
when Omaha first had the 6412 dvr they where not equiped with rf out and I need that to connect to my tv tuner in my pc.

different area's order it differently.

That's strange. So you are saying that one Cox area may include the RF, but another one would special order it without RF?

As for the 6412, do you mean the DCT6412? I had three of those at one time and they didn't have RF out. The attached picture from Motorola's Website also shows that the DCT6412 does not have RF out.

ajwees41
02-06-09, 08:26 AM
That's strange. So you are saying that one Cox area may include the RF, but another one would special order it without RF?

As for the 6412, do you mean the DCT6412? I had three of those at one time and they didn't have RF out. The attached picture from Motorola's Website also shows that the DCT6412 does not have RF out.



yes the dct 6412 the only 6412 to have rf in Omaha was the 6412 phase 3 and new newer 6416 and 3416. Who knows the DCH in Omaha might have rf out better to ask a customer who has one than a csr.

ajwees41
02-11-09, 01:57 AM
ondemand upgrades any cox area's get ondemand upgrades? Omaha is getting them now and will take 6 hours to complete.

phdeane
02-11-09, 02:13 AM
ondemand upgrades any cox area's get ondemand upgrades? Omaha is getting them now and will take 6 hours to complete.

Nothing here in the OC. Where did you see the six hours? Is there a message on screen? I sure hope they upgrade to a much better interface. The current one is horrible.

edit: found this on engadget (http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/06/cox-communications-talks-up-new-on-demand-platform/)

phdeane
02-11-09, 02:21 AM
Assuming you get this upgrade, let us know what you think.

ajwees41
02-11-09, 02:22 AM
Nothing here in the OC. Where did you see the six hours? Is there a message on screen? I sure hope they upgrade to a much better interface. The current one is horrible.

here is what our ondemand launch channels look like right now

this link is what it used to look like. http://www.cox.com/support/images/digitalcable/eod/tutorials_mocur/player.htm?flcourseID=od_mo_conc_how_to_search&playAudio=1&userid=guest&courseID=w.cox.com/support/omaha/digitalcable/eod/eodinteractivetutor_motc.asp

phdeane
02-11-09, 02:33 AM
Thanks. It looks like you have (or should I say had) the same system as ours.

ajwees41
02-11-09, 03:39 AM
it looks like we are also getting the dvr software update


took an hour to download

what the disk space looks like now

OmahaTVAddict
02-11-09, 08:14 AM
Yep I've noticed the upgrades as I turn the tv on this morning. See subtle things like one moment please when hitting the guide button and the change in disc space.

ajwees41
02-11-09, 12:31 PM
Assuming you get this upgrade, let us know what you think.

ondemand speed is faster than before.

phdeane
02-11-09, 01:06 PM
ondemand speed is faster than before.

It looks like they consolidated some of the various menus (Movies On Demand, HBO On Demand, etc.) or at least moved the premium channel menus closer to the top. Just not having to go into a second page would be nice. Of course, we could have different choices in OC, so we'll see. As far as the previews go, ours has been doing that for some time. Are you saying that when you go into HBO On Demand, for example, you don't have to click preview any more; it just previews automatically when you move the cursor to a particular movie title? Or does it just show general previews no matter which menu you are in? If the latter, that is how it's been for us for a while. Thanks!

ajwees41
02-11-09, 01:12 PM
It looks like they consolidated some of the various menus (Movies On Demand, HBO On Demand, etc.) or at least moved the premium channel menus closer to the top. Just not having to go into a second page would be nice. Of course, we could have different choices in OC, so we'll see. As far as the previews go, ours has been doing that for some time. Are you saying that when you go into HBO On Demand, for example, you don't have to click preview any more; it just previews automatically when you move the cursor to a particular movie title? Or does it just show general previews no matter which menu you are in? If the latter, that is how it's been for us for a while. Thanks!

no if you select a ondemand channel to view while you are looking the video is still playing in a smaller window.

\our menus have always been listed this way the only difference I see is the speed and the font of thetext has changed. in freezone for example we have 10-11 choices for music it was 7-8 on one page now it's even.

phdeane
02-11-09, 01:24 PM
no if you select a ondemand channel to view while you are looking the video is still playing in a smaller window.

Hmmm...I'm starting to think it is the upgrade we got a few months ago. I remember it being even slower before that. I wouldn't say it was a great deal faster after the upgrade, so who knows.

ajwees41
02-11-09, 01:28 PM
Hmmm...I'm starting to think it is the upgrade we got a few months ago. I remember it being even slower before that. I wouldn't say it was a great deal faster after the upgrade, so who knows.

who knows maybe you area got a small update that changed the speed, but Omaha didn't get it until last night.

ajwees41
02-11-09, 05:15 PM
I did notice when recording something and then starting on demand the red record light stays on since the update.

phdeane
02-11-09, 07:34 PM
I did notice when recording something and then starting on demand the red record light stays on since the update.
Interesting; I'll check if ours does, too, which will give me more evidence that we already have the update - or don't.

ajwees41
02-12-09, 04:16 PM
Cox Tivo

What's the latest on tivo running on a cox dvr?

OmahaTVAddict
02-12-09, 05:54 PM
I've heard nothing as far as Tivo on Cox. It's taking forever for Comcast to get it out through there footprint. I can only imagine how slow Cox is taking.

moyekj
02-12-09, 06:50 PM
Cox Tivo

What's the latest on tivo running on a cox dvr? Based on feedback from Comcast/Tivo forums it's still very slow and buggy and nothing like owning a standalone Tivo. In fact many in the Comcast/Tivo forums gave up on it and moved to standalone Tivo units instead so it's a non-starter as far as I can see.

ajwees41
02-13-09, 12:34 AM
Based on feedback from Comcast/Tivo forums it's still very slow and buggy and nothing like owning a standalone Tivo. In fact many in the Comcast/Tivo forums gave up on it and moved to standalone Tivo units instead so it's a non-starter as far as I can see.

I thnk it will be a tru2way version