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gadgetfreaky 06-24-04, 06:12 PM Well,
After the wife gave me the green light on the plasma purchase. She of course would not let any furniture in the house. After looking at dozens of websites and dozens of stores. I found this posted somewhere else on AVS forum.
http://www.ethanallen.com/templates/solutions_summer04/ent_state/state_ent.html
It's about the same price as the salamander, maybe cheaper considering it has something to mount the plasma on. We are putting the plasma on the side of the room that has a window, and so hanging it on the wall wasn't an option. We are draping the entire wall and hiding that window and using this piece. I saw it in person at the ethan allen store. It's very well built, very sturdy and actually looks like real furniture. They have a whole collection of bedroom, living room furniture as well that matches. It's $900 and the plasma back piece to mount the plasma is $300. So $1200 total which isn't bad for an ethan allen piece. Considering they have coffee tables that are close to that price.
Ok, so here's the bad part. 4 months for it to come in!!! Apparently it's so new, that each order is built from scratch and they don't stock any as they aren't 100% sure it will sell. I think this is going to become one of the best wife friendly plasma credenza's out there. No holes in the wall and it looks really nice. It should last a very long time as it's Ethan Allen.
Doors in front apparently can be glass or wood (you get both when you buy it).
So, hopefully in September I get it. Which is then when I will finally order my 50" plasma. I've narrowed it down the panasonic thanks to this forum. Mayber the 7UY will be out by then and the price is still about $5K or less.
Reading posts every day until I get to pull the trigger when the furniture gets in.
RonRathe 06-24-04, 06:36 PM A friend has something similar that looks/works very well for him. He found a cabinet similar to the Ethan Allen "Media Cabinet" - his was in stock at the furniture store. Then he had a local cabinet shop build an extra-sturdy reinforced back panel that included a plasma wall mount. The cabinet shop was able to match the color and texture of the media cabinet. As I recall, the whole thing came together in a matter of a few weeks.
I am in the final stages of building my own cabinet like this right now - I hope to have it completely done this weekend. Just doing the finish on the wood (WORST part IMHO)
Here are my drawings... I have made a few mods since I have gotten into the building process, and still have not decided on door (steel mesh fronts or glass) but so far it is looking pretty killer...
Pics of the final product to come.
As of now with materials, etc I am into it about $375...
Does it come with a cloth grille to put a center channel?
Just doing the finish on the wood (WORST part IMHO)
pcrx,
I've done a lot of woodwork myself and I completely agree. I especially hate doing a painted finish (as apposed to stain and laquer). Paint exposes every flaw and joint and requires much more preparation and sanding prior to applying the finish.
Your plans look great. Good luck with the finish work,
Steve
Wow - that's sweet (both the Ethan Allen and the custom cabinet).
cheridave 06-24-04, 09:09 PM I like this one the best so far. About $2200.
My Plasma's Home! (http://www.waltonmanufacturing.com/products/images/TDCAMBRIAB.jpg)
Dave
CaptainKellog 06-24-04, 09:47 PM Have you also looked at the BDI Vista stand? I thinks it's got a really clean look to it, however if wood furniture is more your style this may stand out a bit too much.
http://www.bdiusa.com/avfurniture/vista_9960.shtml
CraiginNJ 06-25-04, 08:43 AM I went with a Diamondcase TT-400. I'm very happy with the design and the quality, though the price was steep (like high quality furniture) and unlike the sample pieces I was sent the walnut finish turned out to have reddish tones, like a mix of 2/3 walnut and 1/3 cherry. (I may have it refinished someday to match my favorite finish.) Also wasn't happy with freight company's bad communication. Other advantages are:
Room for three shelves of things on the left & right (that's my config), plus enough room in center for center speaker & subwoofer, if you want.
Backpanel is mounted about 1" out from the back so there's is great ventilation.
Back panel comes off for easy work on cables, and the extra depth means there's room back there for stuff that doesn't need to be controlled (surge-protector powerstrip, Terk RF injector that feeds outputs from my cablebox/DVD/VCR/PC into the coax to another room, component+audio signal amp/distributor).
Options for venting fan, interior lighting, interchangable wood or glass or speaker panel for each door, etc. etc.http://www.diamondcase.com/TT/TT_HTML_Files/TT400.HTML
(It isn't as glossy-shiny in real life as this seems to show. Also, it's deeper than it looks, but that makes it also good for handling lower-cost today's 8"-16" deep RPTV's and putting stuff inside behind your electronic boxes.)
Craig in NJ
PS -- I like the idea of the back panel of wood on the Ethan Allen that gadgetfreaky posted at the start of this thread.
Nope, not perfect. It only accommodates six components %^)
tdombrow 06-25-04, 08:59 AM I know its kind of "gimmicky" but I'm looking for a cabinet for a bedroom, rather than the media/living room. Has anyone bought the Hooker pop up plasma cabinet:
http://www.hookerfurniture.com/largeview.cfm?filename=photos/large/HF15955020op_11_03.jpg
They apparently have them at the Big Screen Store and I plan to look at it this weekend. Big worry is mechanical breakdown, of course.
jadziedzic 06-25-04, 09:58 AM One of the concerns I had with most of the A/V furniture that I looked at was lack of adequate ventilation. Stick a big amp inside a cabinet, close the doors, and crank up the sound; after a while there'll no need to stick the popcorn in the microwave ...
Glass- or wood-panel doors probably carry greater WAF but a close-fitting door won't allow much airflow IN to the cabinet to be exhausted by fans, air chimneys, or other natural convection means.
JuiceRocket 06-25-04, 09:58 AM That's a nice piece gadget. I think that my wife and I will look at those when we move to a new place and upgrade our furninture a bit. She, like I, just don't care for the look of a lot of the "plasma" furniture currently out there. That piece you posted looks really nice. :)
Any idea how wide the storage units are for the components?
-JR
Comments on the EA Unit...
Avaiable in 2 finishes, one dark wood, one more 'reddish/orange'
Fricking thing is 1/2" too narrow for my center channel *fume*
Can have solid or wood panel on doors, or no door
The 'Plasma Mount' is god awful, it's a giant piece of wood, and imo looks plain ugly. I have a pedestal stand, and wouldn't mind wall mounting above the unit, but the additional stand is just ugly.
the 68" wide EA runs around 899, with the 'plasma mount' running an extra 300 or so.
Jamie571 06-25-04, 11:26 AM Originally posted by pcrx
I am in the final stages of building my own cabinet like this right now - I hope to have it completely done this weekend. Just doing the finish on the wood (WORST part IMHO)
I agree, I get anixious to get done but your also at the stage of taking your time and waiting on the each coat of varnish to dry.
I was about to build a nice wall cabinet design similar to the one cheridave linked to, but becasue of cost and size issues decided to tone it down. Maybe in about 2 weeks I'll have the cabinet done. I beefed it up inside and used 500lb capacity industrial casters so I can use a ganite top that the local granite place had left over from another job.
I'll post some picks when completed.
I think its been harder finding the perfect plasma stand instead of finding the perfect plasma, thats why I decided to build it myself.
Anyways here is what the finished product will look like:
ChicagoChris 06-25-04, 11:40 AM Anyone care to comment on this particular piece?
http://www.racksandstands.com/prods/StudioTech/U-22/0PSO0017.htm
Looks good and the dimensions meet my needs. However I am not familiar with Studiotech furniture.
Thanks
JuiceRocket 06-25-04, 11:45 AM My wife and I have this unit, which we pruchased for under $100.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008PC40.16._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
The only issue we've had is our STB it too wide to fit in the frosted glass areas. We've had to put it in the middle.
-JR
If you are cheap (like me) make a visit to IKEA and look at the Majiker system.
CraiginNJ 06-25-04, 11:40 PM tdombrow,
That Hooker sure looks sweet. Wish I had seen that a couple of months ago. Seems a little high for a normal room but maybe just right for a big bedroom.
Craig in NJ
Spent 2 months looking (& 2 years lurking here). Pulled trigger on BDI Axis 8028 for P1110HD and HTM2 centre speaker, then Axis 8026 plus two extra shelves for all the components. Looks awesome in cognac.
iwant12 06-26-04, 12:55 AM Another woodworker option is -
http://www.plansnow.com/secetcenter.html
It's fairly easy with a Kreg pocket hole jig (a tool you'll keep on using). You can see it by clicking my gallery link. As my av came together, I built a "lift" for the center channel speaker and a plasma stand on a countersunk chair swivel to suit the open floor plan of my house.
I agree with jadziedzic on the ventilation. To compensate for the glass doors, I keep my amp in the open on top of one of the side cabinets. The pre/pro is on top of the other side cabinet - but mostly for easy cabling access, rather than heat. For components behind the glass, I have a grid of 2" holes in the cabinet back panel and space the cabinet a few inches from the wall to provide ventilation.
My fear with the Ethan Allen cabinet is that the TV panel piece likely requires anchoring to the wall studs, which would also require the base cabinet to be tight to the wall, hence poor ventilation. (Maybe not - but the panel piece doesn't appear from the picture to have the framing and hardware necessary to be self standing with the additional weight of a large plasma TV - and they show it tight to the wall.)
manufanatic 06-27-04, 11:00 PM http://www.ikea-usa.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=12&langId=-1&catalogId=10101&productId=11726
I guess this is what the ikea guy was talking about
Looks tempting if this is the right one could you tell me how wide and deep the shelves go..
manufanatic 06-27-04, 11:02 PM I have also seen someone on the forum use this from ikea attached to the wall horizontally looked pretty good
http://www.ikea-usa.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=12&langId=-1&catalogId=10101&productId=11317
Thanks for the links guys. :D
Bush Furniture has some interesting Plasma Stands (cheap prices). I just don't know about their built quality:
http://www.bush-furniture-online.com/xmodels/bush/VS31543h.jpghttp://www.bush-furniture-online.com/xmodels/bush/VS88536h.jpg
http://www.bush-furniture-online.com/xmodels/bush/VS42558-03h.jpghttp://www.bush-furniture-online.com/xmodels/bush/VS31843h.jpg
Although I designed this as an "Audio Altar" for the serious 2-channel buffs, it could easily accomodate a Plasma or DLP or other narrow depth display. Designed for acoustic friendliness.
Scale is 54"long X 16.5" deep x approx 26" tall, very stout.
I guess it could be called A/V Altar. Many other variations could be derived.
Slightly less work...
Fluted turned columns, 2" thick solid mahog slab top.
JuiceRocket 06-28-04, 08:04 AM I like the "floating glass" look of this one ---->
http://www.bush-furniture-online.com/xmodels/bush/VS88536h.jpg
Shame it only holds 3 components (2 if you placed your center speaker directly under the tv).
Cool piece of furniture, nice find Brucer. :)
-JR
1918sox 06-28-04, 10:53 AM There is a reason they make more than one flavor of ice cream. People's tastes are different. I still find this to be one of the finest offerings for plasma furnitue. The ability to customize the finished product with glass or cloth, type of finish and other goodies makes this, for me, one of the best plasma displays available. Give it a look.
http://diamondcase.com/TT/TT_HTML_Files/TT400.HTML
After my experience with my old BDI table - a very nice open table - I would never get a glass top piece again to put a plasma on. Main reason is reflection... I got tired of seeing the image reflected onto the glass. Maybe if the plasma was high enough above it it would not reflect the light, but with a table stand and a dark woom...the light came right off it and it was quite distracting.
I have my final product DONE!!!! and all set up. I will post a few pics a bit later. It turned out killer... I cannot believe I waited as long as I did to do this. The project had its ups and downs but in the end its all good - and super super WAF..... my wife was so amazed she couldn't (and I couldn't) believe it!
Full report with pics coming soon.........
iwant12 06-28-04, 02:25 PM I dunno Brucer, I'd be tempted to keep something that nice in reserve for ceremonial virgin sacrifices and such - it's too cool for a bunch of black boxes - awesome work!
jgiddyup 06-28-04, 04:10 PM I have the maple colored piece that Bruzzi posted and Juice likes from O'SULLIVAN. $200 from worst buy and about 2 hrs to assemble. Looks great and accommodates our 42 consumer panny EDTV. Only problem is that it's in the bedroom and while lying down you have to move your feet to see the entire picture. I'm in process of having a matching shelf built to raise it 5 inches and gives me a spot for a STB etc... Sitting up in bed there is no problem at all. $260 total and very pleased. Diamond Case is a good company and I had them design me a custom cabinet for $100 which is deducted from the price if you order. The problem was it was still too much money in the end. The O'SULLIVAN with added shelf works great in the bedroom and the added shelf would not be necessary in a media type room.
CraiginNJ 06-28-04, 11:46 PM Brucer,
Truly excellent woodcraftsmanship there on both counts. The curved legs one looks especially amazing -- wonderful grain showing just right on such unusually shaped legs. Thanks for sharing pix.
For my A/V system, though, I've got too many components to want them out in the open like that. Maybe if I had one of the Wizard of Oz drapery screens with all the real gear hidden behind it and only the TV on the alter ... ;-)
Craig in NJ
marchristensen 06-29-04, 10:05 AM JuiceRocket - Where did you get your stand from. It's nice.
wilbur2000 06-29-04, 11:55 AM Originally posted by ChicagoChris
Anyone care to comment on this particular piece?
http://www.racksandstands.com/prods/StudioTech/U-22/0PSO0017.htm
Looks good and the dimensions meet my needs. However I am not familiar with Studiotech furniture.
Thanks
ChicagoChris
I got that model for my 37" plasma - it is very sturdy (metal frame inside) and easy to put together. A 37" - 43" fits nicely on top.
dukedavek 07-04-04, 04:38 PM Originally posted by marchristensen
JuiceRocket - Where did you get your stand from. It's nice.
I've seen this stand at Target. It is listed on their website for $130. I'm thinking of getting it myself. It also comes in a maple finish.
ChicagoChris 07-04-04, 07:54 PM Originally posted by wilbur2000
ChicagoChris
I got that model for my 37" plasma - it is very sturdy (metal frame inside) and easy to put together. A 37" - 43" fits nicely on top.
Thanks. They want 10 weeks to deliver the Cherry model..uggh..
Trying to determine if I want to spend the extra money on something from Salamander...
Picus_H 07-04-04, 10:12 PM You guys might spend some time looking for used/older furniture like a nice sized credenza. I was pretty unimpressed by most 'under plasma' media type furniture when I bought mine so I went out and grabbed a danish modern style credenza. Holds all 10 of my components and the sliding doors allow ventilation.
Otherwise I vote for the AudioAlter! :D
Mike53-
That's what we did this weekend, except we went with the Eksjo unit... It was reasonably priced ($100 after discount) and looks actually very good...
Here's a link for those interested:
Eksjo (http://www.ikea-usa.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=12&productId=11719&langId=-1&parentCats=10104*10174)
Only difference is we assembled it without the legs... adds stability and also weight limits aren't as much of a concern.
-L
semigolfer 07-05-04, 12:51 PM Here's some options from Home Theater Mag July 2004
The issue has photos (too many to scan and post) of each of the models specified. You'll probably find them at their web sites.
BDI USA - ICON 9424 - $745
http://www.bdiusa.com
Billy Bags - TV Recorder Table #PRO-44 - $979
http://www.billybags.com
Boltz - TV Table/5 Tier Tower - $1297
http://www.boltz.com
Bell'O - AVS-2601 -$900
http://www.bello.com
Redline Studio - RS-3211 - $399
http://www.redline-studio.com
ginni designs - GDI-42FPL - $7000 (hardware) $10300 (w/cab0
http://www.ginnidesigns.com
Salamander Designs - Synergy Triple20 - $749 - $849
http://www.salamanderdesigns.com
This one might be hard to find so try http://www.salamanderdesigns.com/syn/triples.jsp
Diamond Case Designs - E87C Credenza - $4999
http://www.diamondcase.com
Lane Furniture - Urbana Entertainment Center (http://www.lanefurniture.com/products/ProdInfoDet2.asp?MasterNo=12330) - $1439
http://www.lanefurniture.com
Lovan USA - Millennium - $2096
http://www.lovanusa.com
Image Crafters - RC-2472 Entertainment Credenza $1744- $4000
http://www.imagecraftersinc.com
Soundations - Ritz 1 - $2399
http://www.soundations.net
Sanus Systems - PFDV - $430
http://www.sanus.com
Schroers & Schroers - Fly TV - $3500
http://www.schroers.de
Studio Tech - AP-22 - $599
http://www.studiotech.com
I just ordered the EA stand as well - the lighter 'cherry' finish. Primarily due to WAF - she liked it quite a bit.
They told me 10 WEEKS!! I think that's still a very long time.
Now we need to decide if we will use wood panels or glass on the front (She'd prefer wood), and how to properly ventilate this thing with a receiver in it. I was thinking of removing large sections in the back (esp. if the doors would be closed), and using an IR dist system to control the components inside.
Thoughts?
L
Originally posted by JuiceRocket
My wife and I have this unit, which we purchased for under $100.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008PC40.16._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
The only issue we've had is our STB it too wide to fit in the frosted glass areas. We've had to put it in the middle.
-JR
Just wondering where you place your center channel with this furniture?
Currently I have my center channel on top of my standard CRT; with plasma televisions where do owners usually place their center channels?
Also, never really considered this, but do your speakers need to be shielded with plasma televisions? Thanks.
Thanks.
salvador_dali 08-29-04, 02:01 AM Bello make some inexpensive stands for the AV Theater setup. Example at Compusa for 249 AVS-422T. Using this stand there is space for a full center channel (22") with a Bello AVS-422T and 5 pieces of equipment (2 x 17" at a depth of 5" and then the rest are thinner).
Attractive stand at great price, width just right for a 42" plasma. Thanks for info. I don't know if it will hold enough components though. Stand will hold center channel speaker and all components if arranged like illustration at http://www.racksandstands.com/prods/Bello/AVS-422T/All/0C1/0PBB0048.htm#additional
but don't know if stacking components like this is advisable?
salvador_dali 08-29-04, 03:23 PM I have them stacked with the receiver open completely. I have a larger Kenwood DVD player with vents on to top back which I allow to vent into the 5100 i.e 5100 is on top. Overall the 5100 is hotter but they still do not build problematic levels of heat stacked together. HTH
cluemeister 08-29-04, 04:20 PM Here's what I picked up at Bernie and Phyl's in southern NH. What I like about it is two top openings for STB and Home theater, drawers for dvd's, and two doors for Gamecube/controllers. Just about $300.
Cluemeister
Don Black 08-29-04, 08:43 PM Cluem: What material are you using to hide the wires into your plasma? It looks like a chrome pipe of some sort... Thx.
cluemeister 08-29-04, 10:29 PM Originally posted by Don Black
Cluem: What material are you using to hide the wires into your plasma? It looks like a chrome pipe of some sort... Thx.
That chrome pipe is a plastic moulding that came in the box with the Philips plasma. It is a half round moulding that snaps onto a channel moulding that is attached to the wall. Plenty of room for all the cords.
Of course the plasma unit has a charcoal frame, so the moulding should have the same charcoal finish, but I think it's a one-finish-fits-all-our-plasmas situation.
I've been tempted to scuff it up and paint it to match the walls, but so far friends say they like it.
I have no idea if Philips would sell it separately. Perhaps you could check their website.
Cluemeister
CraiginNJ 08-30-04, 12:21 AM If a person needed the wires to be less noticable maybe Decorp's Flatwire products would help. They even have flatwire versions of component video and coax.
http://decorp.com
Craig
Originally posted by igreg
Also, never really considered this, but do your speakers need to be shielded with plasma televisions? Thanks.
Nope.
Plasmas are not affected by magnetics fields.
Originally posted by salvador_dali
Bello make some inexpensive stands for the AV Theater setup. Example at Compusa for 249 AVS-422T. Using this stand there is space for a full center channel (22") with a Bello AVS-422T and 5 pieces of equipment (2 x 17" at a depth of 5" and then the rest are thinner).
This looks like a great stand, especially for the price. However, I am considering these other Bello models as they have another shelf, and I can avoid stacking components. Does anyone have either of these stands?
Bello AVS-4201A (pictured) or Bello PVS-4202
Worth the money? Leaning toward the AVS-4201A as it has a larger surface area for the TV stand, thus giving me more latitude in positioning the plasma set, and the components are recessed rather than protruding forward from the set.
Either stand is relatively high at 28". Do you prefer this height over the more trandional 24" height stand?
JuiceRocket 08-31-04, 12:24 AM Originally posted by igreg
Just wondering where you place your center channel with this furniture?
Hi igreg,
I have it sitting on top of the furniture itself. Check my horrifically meager gallery with it's sub-standard pictures to see what I mean. :)
-JR
Looks good to me. The lines look great on the Panny. Is your set the 42" or 50" set? Appears like a large screen, but note from your description that you are only 8 feet from your sofa.
What ever happened to Brucer?
He's still around, from time to time. I saw him just the other day, in fact.
Thanks for asking, Mark.
JuiceRocket 09-29-04, 11:55 PM Originally posted by igreg
Looks good to me. The lines look great on the Panny. Is your set the 42" or 50" set? Appears like a large screen, but note from your description that you are only 8 feet from your sofa.
Whoa, late reply on my part, sorry about that. Our set is a 42". :) I really need to take better pictures of the setup. Time for me to ask my wife for some help in the picture taking dept.! ;)
-JR
DJ Vision 09-30-04, 12:04 AM That EA looks alot like this:
http://www.1contemporary.com/images/entertainment/plasmahighres.jpg
Laurier Furniture
overtime 09-30-04, 01:19 AM Has anyone ordered the EA 68" piece lately? Is there still a 10-12 week lead time?
Also, has anyone mounted their set to the backboard option? If so, how does it hold the TV? And is it sturdy? I can't decide if I like the way it looks or not but I know I'm going to not enjoy mounting the TV to the wall (won't get TV until Jan. though).
overtime
gadgetfreaky 09-30-04, 01:43 AM The Ethan Allen Piece is set to arrive in the warehouse on Oct. 11th. Finally!! They said a few days after that it should be in my house. Almost 4 months I think.
I think worth the wait as the timing is perfect, the 7UY is probably what I will order. In terms of mounting the plasma to the back piece I'm heading over to Ethan Allen this week to see what the back piece looks like. I'm a bit unsure how to mount it.
I would prefer an articulating mount but don't think the leveraged weight extended would hold on that back piece. So I'm looking for a mount that tilts up and down and a little right to left as well.
I'll let you know what I end up with.
Originally posted by Brucer
He's still around, from time to time. I saw him just the other day, in fact.
Thanks for asking, Mark.
LOL :)
I ordered the 56" version of the EA piece last weekend (same design, but with a smaller section in the middle) and was told it would be about 8 weeks. I skipped the plasma mount in the back (my set - the Hitachi 42hdt51 - has a power swivel stand which I like).
tomshop 09-30-04, 01:33 PM Not sure I get any of these pieces. All you need is a good credenza piece to put the components in and mount the plasma above it on the wall running the wires in the wall. Much cleaner look and far less expensive.
I had a two piece armoire and just lost the top portion. Looks/works great. BTW I think there is going to be a huge bonfire for all the high media cabinets we all bought over the last decade...what a waste of money!!!
overtime 09-30-04, 01:34 PM to
overtime 09-30-04, 01:36 PM tomshop - that is basically what we are looking at here...the credenza pieces. The backboard attachments are optional so you can just get the credenza and mount the tv to the wall.
overtime
There is also this one from Costco.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?whse=&topnav=&prodid=10040717
-Suntan
Jay Bergman 10-01-04, 12:22 AM Here is a unit that my wife designed and we had made up for us. We loved the plasma over fireplace concept but had no fireplace. So we built the unit to look like a fireplace while concealing all of the wires as well as the components. She wanted the black glass on the unit below to obscure even the hint of unsightly equipment.
If your wife isn't into the "den" approach to plasma decorating this could be an idea that makes the entire plasma idea a reality.
I'm currently redesigning a home version of the " Rocket RoadRack" to accommodate a 61" JVC HD-ILA [I know, that's sacrilegious for a plasma owner].
A more recent photo [of the original Plasma based fold up traveling Road Show RoadRack] from the Rocket sound room in Colorado. The plasma is a 46" ELEO, the only one I know of in the country [sited for size reference]. Center channel is 12" tall [aka, Bigfoot]. All shelves, feet, legs and hardware store inside the base which folds into a 1/2 length box. Emotiva Amplifier [bottom left] is around 115 lbs. Emo Pre/Pro [above on floating shelf] is around 30lbs. Onix tube amp [bottom right] is 67 lbs.
http://forum.**********/attachment.php?s=&postid=88853
No cabinet enclosures to disrupt sound quality, in fact, the back board is acoustically treated 1" panels, as well.
-----------------
Imagination is the only limitation.
shanami 10-08-04, 11:36 AM gadgetfreaky & others:
Did you ever make it to Ethan Allen to check out the mounting options on the media cabinet ? I know there is a square opening (not sure of the size) on the vertical panel attached to the media cabinet. Will the flush mount for the plasma go over this opening, above it, below it, etc.? Is the vertical panel sturdy enough to support a 42" plasma? I gotta assume so or else they wouldn't market it for plasmas, but earlier in the thread someone wondered whether it would have to be tied into the studs. Maybe it will all become obvious when my 56" EA cabinet arrives next week. I am in NYC and ordered it in Aug.
Thanks!
Mike
gadgetfreaky 10-08-04, 12:45 PM Mine finally gets delivered next week. However I did go into a local store to look at it. The square opening is in the center for running all your cables. You would mount the plasma pretty much over the hole. I'm getting a tilt mount, and they all are about 2" away from the wall, so it shouldn't be a problem.
the way it is mounted to the bottom cabinet is from 2 bars that are on the back from the top of the vertical panel, and runs all the way down to the bottom of the main credenza piece. It seems sturdy enough to hold my 50". I even considered an articulating arm, but was concerned of the torqued weight. I'll let you konw how mine ends up.
miken168 10-12-04, 11:39 AM Originally posted by gadgetfreaky
Mine finally gets delivered next week. However I did go into a local store to look at it. The square opening is in the center for running all your cables. You would mount the plasma pretty much over the hole. I'm getting a tilt mount, and they all are about 2" away from the wall, so it shouldn't be a problem.
the way it is mounted to the bottom cabinet is from 2 bars that are on the back from the top of the vertical panel, and runs all the way down to the bottom of the main credenza piece. It seems sturdy enough to hold my 50". I even considered an articulating arm, but was concerned of the torqued weight. I'll let you konw how mine ends up.
Gadget,
I just ordered this EA piece this past weekend and am excited to be gettin it (...in late december!...can't believe how long it takes)
Got a question about the wood piece where you mount the plasma...would you drill holes into the wood in order to mount the plasma? Or do you stick the mount thru the center hole and drill into the wall?
Sorry for the simple question..I tried asking the EA person, and of course...they had no idea...thanks in advance!
gadgetfreaky 10-12-04, 11:47 AM Mine is being delivered in the next 30 minutes. however, i did go into the store to look at it. you mount theplasma to the wood piece, as if the wood piece was the wall. the hole is just to run cables through.
overtime 10-12-04, 11:48 AM I just ordered the EA 68" piece (with the darker wood and brushed nickel handles) this last weekend. We did not get the plasma mount backboard. We are pretty excited about getting it...once that is in place perhaps the plasma/lcd will follow quickly. :D
I took my wife to see the Salamander equivalent (at Magnolia) and it was too industrial for her (and $300 more!).
gadget - keep us up to date with how mounting to that backpeice goes.
overtime
gadgetfreaky 10-12-04, 12:29 PM Just delivered. I have directv here now. after they leave, i'll post pictures.
gadgetfreaky 10-12-04, 02:53 PM My Ethan allen piece finally arrived. It looks great!!
Very worth the wait.
Here's the back of the unit. There are 2 metal rods that go the length of the unit from the top to the bottom. It's not 100% solid, meaning you can push on the top piece to make it move. I wouldn't put an articulating arm on it. But I'm confident my tilt wall mount won't be an issue.
gadgetfreaky 10-12-04, 02:56 PM By the way, the back of the unit, the 3 compartments have good ventilation. In fact you can take the back off, of which I will probably do for the one I have my receiver and Tivo in for heat reasons. As a bonus, there's also a power strip mounted inside of one of the storage compartments as well. This unit is HEAVY!. Well built.
Delivery was outstanding. They showed up on time, 3 guys, 2 pieces. Well wrapped in plastic and moving blankets. They put the 2 pieces together and were out in under 10 minutes.
miken168 10-12-04, 03:46 PM Thanks for the info Gadget! Glad to hear you are happy with it...I can't wait to get mine now...it just seems like a great furniture piece to integrate the plasma...
Post up pics once you get the plasma mounted on the backing piece!
gadgetfreaky 10-12-04, 04:10 PM Peerless smart wall mount with tilt comes in tomorrow. Hopefully tv hung tomorrow night.
http://a451.g.akamai.net/7/451/1713/0001/image2.styleinamerica.com/pbecimgs/images/products/200439/0010/img78l.jpg
ndabunka 10-13-04, 11:21 AM I don't like the PCHone unit above. If it is simply an atempt to re-use an existing entertainment certer with a plasma, it's a nice job. But if it's a new purchase, I would prefer something that looks like it was all designed together. That unit looks like three separate peices with a large amount of space between them. Acceptable = Yes. Willing to spend money on = No
ndabunka 10-13-04, 11:30 AM Originally posted by tdombrow
I know its kind of "gimmicky" but I'm looking for a cabinet for a bedroom, rather than the media/living room. Has anyone bought the Hooker pop up plasma cabinet:
http://www.hookerfurniture.com/largeview.cfm?filename=photos/large/HF15955020op_11_03.jpg
They apparently have them at the Big Screen Store and I plan to look at it this weekend. Big worry is mechanical breakdown, of course.
Hooker makes super quality stuff (I have another large unit in another room). Have you priced this one yet? Which dealer's are you talking to? We have a large trade show here every year and it happens in about 2 weeks. Would like to add this to my wish list but if it's over $4K, would probably take it out of the running for my application.
GregAMeyer 10-13-04, 12:08 PM Well I bought the Ethan Alan one a few weeks back; I agree it makes plasma presentation very nice... I'm looking forward to getting mine... in DECEMBER... I haven't yet ordered my Plasma to put on the furniture, because it will arrive in just a few days.
If you have ordered one form Ethan Alan I suggest you talk to your sales person, they are having some issues with manufacturer of these, something about the plant being in Florida. (or at least that's the line they gave me).
I was thrilled to see a nice piece of Plasma furniture and not just the usual "high-tech" look. But still something that mounts it in a way you never could a conventional CRT.
Greg
Ordered my TT-400 from Diamond Case Designs (in Calif) in Sept. Received my 50" Panny about the same time. Won't receive the credenza until late Nov :(
Why does it take the Mfg.s so long?????????
Dave
tdombrow 10-13-04, 01:11 PM ndabunka -- The Hooker piece at the Big Screen Store was listed at $3000. I thought it pretty expensive, but very nicely built. The bottom line is that it was too big for my bedroom configuration (at least according to my wife). I ordered the Ethan Allen and just had it delivered today (took almost exactly three months from order to delivery). I would recommend it highly and it looks nice in the room....now for the plasma!
mcannon 10-13-04, 05:00 PM Bassett Direct has this piece that I am considering as an alternate to the EA piece due moslty to delivery times. This also has the optional back piece that I am not getting. They supposedly have 90 in stock and ready for delivery w/in two weeks. MSRP $1189.
gadgetfreaky 10-13-04, 05:06 PM Wow, anyone notice how many views this thread has?
Anyways, I got my mount http://www.peerlessindustries.com/flat_panel_wall_smart.htm
I was going to mount it tonight. but now I'm wondering how I should attach the mount to the back piece.
Should I mount straight to the wood back piece? Will it hold even though it's not a "stud"
Or should I mount through the wood, through the metal brackets, as if mounting to a metal stud?
ndabunka 10-13-04, 06:57 PM Originally posted by tdombrow
ndabunka -- The Hooker piece at the Big Screen Store was listed at $3000. I thought it pretty expensive, but very nicely built. The bottom line is that it was too big for my bedroom configuration (at least according to my wife). I ordered the Ethan Allen and just had it delivered today (took almost exactly three months from order to delivery). I would recommend it highly and it looks nice in the room....now for the plasma!
Thanks for the info. That puts it into my price range. Now, can you tell me the name of the "Big Screen Store" you found it in? There are a LOT of furniture dealers around here I could go to, but being able to reference the place you found it could help me get it at a good price. Thanks in advance.
Daveok-
I have one on order as well (TT-400). I will get mine in early November. I just changed my order to include the wire mesh shelves instead of the solid ones. I did not want to spend the extra money for the fans. They said this alone helps the cooling.
Originally posted by casey
Daveok-
I have one on order as well (TT-400). I will get mine in early November. I just changed my order to include the wire mesh shelves instead of the solid ones. I did not want to spend the extra money for the fans. They said this alone helps the cooling.
Casey,
I didn't know about the perforated shelves. Thanks for mentioning them.
Do you know whether their fans can be mounted on the back of the credenza? Maybe we should consider this if it's an option.
Dave
Daveok-
You can order it with one fan in both the left and right compartments. It operates on a remote control. I just did'nt what to spend the money. I think the special shelves are good enough. You can also get lighting in these compartments.
tdombrow 10-14-04, 08:16 AM Sorry, this is a local store to the Washington DC metro area. Here's the link to the store locations:
http://www.thebigscreenstore.com/stores.php
The sales guy was willing to deal with me on price for this too. Good luck.
Originally posted by ndabunka
Thanks for the info. That puts it into my price range. Now, can you tell me the name of the "Big Screen Store" you found it in? There are a LOT of furniture dealers around here I could go to, but being able to reference the place you found it could help me get it at a good price. Thanks in advance.
tdombrow 10-14-04, 08:19 AM just ordered the Sanus VMPL2 mount myself. I am wondering the same thing about mounting this. Have to wait for the mount to arrive to make a final decision.
Looking at the cabinet, it seems we should mount directly to the wood back piece. Let me know what you decide (pictures would be useful also).
Originally posted by gadgetfreaky
Wow, anyone notice how many views this thread has?
Anyways, I got my mount http://www.peerlessindustries.com/flat_panel_wall_smart.htm
I was going to mount it tonight. but now I'm wondering how I should attach the mount to the back piece.
Should I mount straight to the wood back piece? Will it hold even though it's not a "stud"
Or should I mount through the wood, through the metal brackets, as if mounting to a metal stud?
I'm probably going to order a tt-400 from diamond case as well, though they told me delivery would probably not be until December (I think they said they do a run of 12 at a time). I have an M-110 stand from them and I love it for my 36" Sony XBR Wega CRT; but it looks like the tt-400 in cherry will nicely match my Cambridge Soundworks Newton towers. I'm just used to the height of the 110 stand - the tt-400 is 10 inches shorter...
ndabunka 10-14-04, 11:32 AM Originally posted by tdombrow
Sorry, this is a local store to the Washington DC metro area. Here's the link to the store locations:
http://www.thebigscreenstore.com/stores.php
The sales guy was willing to deal with me on price for this too. Good luck.
I started to wonder if that was actually the name of the store. Never thought to try it online. I'll look them up. Thanks for the help
gadgetfreaky 10-14-04, 12:59 PM I'm 90% done on mounting mine to the EA piece. I mounted the brackets through the wood and metal bar support. I will let you know tonight if it works. my only concern was that the distance that the 2 bars on the back of the ethan allen are from eachother isn't standard 16" stud distance.. So I'm not 100% sure the bars on the back of the plasma will line up perfectly. Tough to explain, but so far so good. The peerless is well built, thin, and very easy to put together.
ndabunka 10-15-04, 12:27 PM Looks like my search will have to continue. The Hooker unit's maximum area to accept the Plasma is 50 inches wide. My Toshiba 42HP83 is 52" (ohhhh nOOOOO!). I did find the peice to be extremely nice and apparently a "hot seller" for nearly everyone who sells it. It appears that the average street price is around $3,500.00
miken168 10-15-04, 01:18 PM Originally posted by gadgetfreaky
I'm 90% done on mounting mine to the EA piece. I mounted the brackets through the wood and metal bar support. I will let you know tonight if it works. my only concern was that the distance that the 2 bars on the back of the ethan allen are from eachother isn't standard 16" stud distance.. So I'm not 100% sure the bars on the back of the plasma will line up perfectly. Tough to explain, but so far so good. The peerless is well built, thin, and very easy to put together.
Hey Gadget,
If possible, it'd be great if you were able to take pics of your install process (ie showing where you drilled into the back piece etc...)
then the rest of us waiting for this piece can see how it's done :)
Thanks for keeping us up to date!
gadgetfreaky 10-15-04, 01:32 PM Sorry, i didn't take pictures of the install process. It was fairly easy. Took some time, maybe 30 minutes. Mostly me measuring everything 10 times over. I used the peerless smart mount, which I would say is just absolutely perfect. It is pretty flush to the back, and can tilt the plasma with one hand.
Being paranoid, I wanted to mount the mount through the 2 metal bars on the back. As if going through metal studs. Not sure how other mounts work, but the peerless has 2 seperate mounting blocks that I can put anywhere on the wall. Left and Right. There is a paper template as well for drilling the holes. I believe the 2 supporting bars on the back are 22.5" in from each side. Do your own measurements, I believe it might have been 22.55" Be exact, measure many times so that when you drill through you are dead center through those bars. I taped up the template, and with the help of my wife moved it around so that it was the right height for me as well as perfectly aligned on the left and right at the 22.5" distance. The template has holes as well as incremental .1" marks.
Then, with the template up, I drilled through. The wood is pretty thick, but the tough part was the metal. That took a few minutes as I don't think I used the correct drill bit. I went to home depot and bought 3" toggle bolts,. I can't remember the thickness, I think 3/16"?? Since you have access to the back of the unit, you don't have to drill a hole to fit the toggle through. Just a hole big enough for the screw.
After 4 small holes. I put the mounting blocks up and put the toggle on the other side and screwed in.
that's 80% of the difficulty. The rest is just putting the rest of the mount together. pretty simple. Then lifting up plasma and drop it on the mount. You are done.
There is a last saftety lock that I can't seem to get screwed in. I'll do that this week.
I'll post a pic today.
overtime 10-15-04, 01:50 PM How sturdy does the back peice feel with the plasma mounted? Is there any back and forth flex to it?
Its very hard to tell from the display unit at EA without a plasma bolted to it.
I'm still leaning towards mounting it to a wall though.
overtime
gadgetfreaky 10-15-04, 01:54 PM It's very sturdy. The slight flex is not a problem, and of course only flexes if you push on it. The bars holding the top piece extend from the top to the bottom. I think it would take a lot of force to take that piece off. I could not imagine any normal situation that would cause the plasma to fall or the top piece to cave. The great thing here is that it isn't wall mounted. it's on the furniture. The plasma is framed by a very nice wood.
bobaphx 10-15-04, 11:58 PM For those of you who are looking for a "media credenza" piece of furniture for under your plasmas, take a look at this piece of furniture.
http://www.roomandboard.com/rnb/coll.do?coll=RB3022&dept=RB231
Spend a little time looking around this "Room and Board" site and you'll find that you can order these credenzas of different lengths, combinations, door fronts, and finishes. Other places on this site have a lot of other designs that can be used to store all your media stuff. Nice furniture design and good prices.
Check out the Plasma Home Theatre Model: S-PEC-87148-22
Pricey but the best I've seen anywhere. I'm a newby to this forum and can't post a URL link yet. So go to Stonecreekfurniture.com.
With some of the comments here about willing to spend a little extra [up to 3.5K] and waiting several weeks [or months] for delivery, I can't help but point out how much of a 'Custom Candidate' you are.
The advantages to going custom, is you get exactly what you want. [Assuming the craftsman is capable] Instead of trying to match a ready made unit to your room.
The question about "why does it take so long", can be answered [at least from my standpoint as a small manufacturer] that products are designed and built in the order that they are received. As a custom shop, 8 weeks is my default quote. I imagine that with larger manufacturers that do production line furniture, custom orders are probably assigned to a small sub group within the plant so that they don't interfer with the main production lines. So, in essense, it's a similar turnaround to a small shop. For a new item to be added to a production line, takes a several week lead time, as well. I once built 600 display tables for Sperry shoes that were dedicated to go into J.C Penny mall stores accross the country. It took nearly 5 months, total to get them all designed, built and delivered. [This included reconfiguring the shop space for a production run.
I'm all for supporting you own local craftsman, since I know first hand how tough it can be to compete in this kind of market.
When designing from scratch, the pallet is wide open, and you can choose from a wide range of options including materials, construction methods, dimensions, weight capacities, and so on. There are always several ways to "skin the cat", especially in light of budget constraints. But just keep in mind that building a one off custom piece is a whole lot different then building a 100 of the same thing.
If anyone has questions on how to modify or add-on to an existing piece of furniture to adapt to a back panel, etc. feel free to ask of PM me. Also keep in mind that some furniture not designed for audio components may be limited in depth and width for your [current or future] audio components. I always try to stress to folks about not closing the door to upgradability [if that's a word].
Bruce
ndabunka 10-18-04, 12:39 AM Bruce - Thanks for the input but a Custom unit similiar to the Hooker stuff would be a great find for the price limit I am placing on this. The $3,500 RETAIL price would run me about $2,500-$2,600. That's still a lot for some wood but it's a name-brand mfg and a pretty high quality one at that. If a local Custom guy could build me something like the hooker unit for that $2,600.00 I would JUMP at the chance. Many try to throw particle board in there somewhere or try to charge $5K for the unit. Custom would be nice, but around here the price is not realistic :(
gadgetfreaky 10-18-04, 01:53 AM I'll try to take some pictures in the morning, but I just wanted everyone to know that my wife and I are absolutely ecstatic by the Ethan Allen piece. The quality of it is outstanding. Especially the doors, and hinges. The front doors can be glass or solid wood. The back of the unit has great access with wide openings for cables and an option of taking the back piece of each bay off. Which I did for the section where my receiver and tivo were as I am paranoid about heat.
The finish matches my Ebony Rocket speakers as well.
I also just added 12' rope lighting for the bias lighting on the back of the plasma for a great glow effect..
Originally posted by ndabunka
Bruce - Thanks for the input but a Custom unit similiar to the Hooker stuff would be a great find for the price limit I am placing on this. The $3,500 RETAIL price would run me about $2,500-$2,600. That's still a lot for some wood but it's a name-brand mfg and a pretty high quality one at that. If a local Custom guy could build me something like the hooker unit for that $2,600.00 I would JUMP at the chance. Many try to throw particle board in there somewhere or try to charge $5K for the unit. Custom would be nice, but around here the price is not realistic :(
It's actually pretty difficult to throw Particle board under the casework veneers, since most all local plywood and hardwood suppliers mostly stock MDF core or Veneer core sheet goods to the custom shop.
I would venture to say that over 90% of the Entertainment center furniture [or for that matter any furniture that starts out it's life as a four sided box] and even most table tops are veneer over substrate in composition. I'm referring to hardwood veneered faced and not melamine. Casework made with MDF core sheet goods provide for long term joint integrity [no shrinking or expanding] and are further strengthened when a front faceframe of hardwoods is attached.
Hooker included:
From their website:
Veneers, which are used over engineered wood products, are present only on flat surface areas of the furniture such as the case tops and sides. In addition to providing decorative looks, veneers add weight, strength and dimensional stability.
BTW, the veneers don't add weight, and in terms of dimensional stability it is the core that provides a non shrinking and expanding medium [as compared to building out of solid hardwoods.]
Looking at the unit I think you were refering to [ie., lift] I doudt you could get a one off custom piece antwhere near that price, since the 'name brand" lift mechanisms cost a large percentage of that. [Acculift for example]
I was actually speaking in more general terms, and should probably not have included your price reference since it is for a lift unit. [duh, should have looked closer at the unit in question, my bad.]
ndabunka 10-18-04, 11:34 AM Thanks for the additional info. As an FYI, 99% of my existing Hooker entertainment center (Group 918-70-067/L50/R50) is hardwoods (Heavy sucker). The only thing that was "manufactured" is the equipment support shelves (which are behind the closed doores anyway) so I was expecting this next peice to be the same. I did get a pretty good look at the unit I was looking at with the lift on a showroom floor in Hickory this past weekend. Looks to be solid wood as well. Wish I could to custom. I do have a bookcase project I am trying to get done Custom for my home office. Maybe the guy will be open to "adding" something like this to the order at cost or a miminal markup and use me as a reference account for other plasma owners.
gadgetfreaky 10-19-04, 12:49 PM Ok,
Finally some pictures..
My 50phd7UY with the Ethan Allen piece. My rocket speakers, (look how big that center is :)
It makes me almost cry everyday when I come home...
gadgetfreaky 10-19-04, 12:50 PM another picture
gadgetfreaky 10-19-04, 12:51 PM Here's the peerless smart mount and my rope light.
tdombrow 10-19-04, 12:57 PM thanks for the pictures! It looks great.
My plasma is delivered this evening, and I'm planning on drilling through the wood and using bolts/nuts to attach the Sanus mount. I'll try and post pix as well once I'm done (probably not get to it till sometime tomorrow).
I have the 56 inch Ethan Allen with a 42 in ED Consumer Panny.
gadgetfreaky 10-19-04, 12:59 PM tdombrow, FYI, I drilled through the 2 "studs" on the EA piece, which went through the metal bars as well.
overtime 10-19-04, 01:05 PM gadgetfreaky - looks good! I see you went with three glass doors...I'm still trying to figure out how many glass panels I want to use.
thomopolis 10-19-04, 01:30 PM I haven't seen this one on here yet. We just ordered it from Crate and Barrel. We have been looking at new tv stadns for awhile now.
We wanted something that could hold componentes as well as center channel.
Was big enough to hold a 50 inch plasma no problem, but not take up the whole room.
Was built solid, yet not so expensive I could have spent the money on a better plasma instead.
http://www.crateandbarrel.com/itemgroups/16043_0.asp?query=tv%20stand&DIMID=&Page=1&fromLocation=Search
http://www.crateandbarrel.com/itemgroups/14058_0.asp?query=tv%20stand&DIMID=&Page=1&fromLocation=Search
Now all I have to do is get the tv to put on it. :p
GoHerdIBG 10-19-04, 04:47 PM ndabunka,
I also was looking at the Hooker pop-up with a hutch. My 42" Sony XBR plasma is 53" wide so it would not fit. The Chateau Philippe collection ( http://www.hookerfurniture.com/catalog.cfm?inc=cats&item=503-55-236&search_category=9&search_text=&search_type=106 ) was one of the few pieces my wife and I both agreed on. My plasma is currently hanging on the wall with an older piece of furniture below it for components.
What did you finally decide on? I can not find the model #'s on Hookers site you referenced.
I would like to have a pop-up unit wide enough for a 53" system.
Thanks for any info.
ndabunka 10-19-04, 11:02 PM Those model numbers I posted were from the current unit I have had for about 8 years now so it doesn't surprise me that you were not able to find them. you may have to google them to see what I've been using. For this project we are trying to move away from the "entire wall" motif and had pretty much decided on the 870-55-020, 021 & 022 sections until we realized that the opening wouldn't work for our size unit. PS - In some ways it actually would since the plamsa "compartment" apears to be an entire unit that they slide into the furniture and then secure in numerous places. I would actually need to remove that section, shave about 1.5" from each side and then resecure with screws in different places. Should work for about a total of 53" wide for only the area that actually NEEDS the space (Very front of the plasma).
mmay256 10-19-04, 11:45 PM After waiting 8 weeks, we finally got out Ethan Allen Plasma center. VERY nice - we had not even seen the unit when we ordered it - but we are Ethan Allen junkies.(':D')
I mounted an Omnimount bracket by drilling 3 holes and mounting the "wall plate" to the backboard using bolts, washers, lock washers and nuts - from what I could tell when I drilled the holes, the backboard is solid cherry. Lifting the TH-42PD25U/P was a challenge - you are extended when you lift the TV - be careful.
The backboard flexed slightly toward the front - as anticipated, but is very sturdy. It is attached using metal stanchions that run the full height of the unit. These stanchions are screwed into the backboard and electronics cabinet using wood screws.
Cable management is great - the backs of all three equipment bays come off and there is room to pass cables from one bay to the other. The only shorcoming is that you have to pass your cables going to and from the outside through the ventilation slots.
There is an 8x8 opening in the center of the backboard - my mounting plate covers the top 2/3 of this opening - my cables go through the bottom portion and then down through a cable management extrusion.
There is an opening in the top of the electronics cabinet for the wire for the center channel speaker - and in my case - my Xantech IR repeater receiver.
The shelves in the cabinet are adjustable - some of my components are very large, but I had no problem fitting them in.
The only thing wrong with this whole setup was the 8 week wait - and the fact that the local Ethan Allen people had no experience with the unit and could not tell me how the Plasma was supposed to mount to the unit.
We put sliding pads under the legs and can slide the unit out easily. So far, I have only had to do that once - for a cable that came unhooked - but I know it's coming out at least once more.
:D
gadgetfreaky 10-20-04, 02:35 AM mmay256 great pic. I'll try to take a better picture of mine, but my room is just so dark. Try the rope light, at night it's a beautiful glow against that back panel.
consumertalks 10-27-04, 07:53 AM For those that can't mount it on the wall and don't have $1k to spend on furniture, I have a modified shelf system from IKEA. I got this four years ago, and anytime I Windex it it looks like brand new. It's two parts: the entire unit except the "base" was $89, I think the "base" and two extra black supports were $50. I took off the actual base (was two more black pieces) to make it shorter, and it's the perfect height! This pic was taken about a month ago with a Syntax 30" LCD (which has been returned, long story in the "Interesting..." thread), my Comcast HD box, and a Pioneer DVD player. That's about it, my room was pretty sparse as I'd just moved in. There's plenty of room for left/right speakers, and enough storage below for four components and DVDs, etc. on the outside blocks. I'm currently using it just inside my door, with my right surround on the side (other pics in my gallery). Not bad for $139. I'll probably move it back to the bedroom when I get a new set, or use it in my living room and replace my RPTV.. I may get an HD plasma for myself for Christmas. :D *edit 11/17/04 Christmas came early with a Zenith P42W46X, see my gallery for updated pics!
66.5" wide
29.5" tall
13.75" deep
(measured as is, with third shelf "base")
consumertalks 10-27-04, 07:55 AM Pic of the IKEA shelving system in it's current use, this is a bit closer.
cajunlab 11-17-04, 01:14 PM Every stand or table seems proportional only to the 42" plasmas & I can't wall mount the 50".
What are you guys using below your 50's?
plasmike 11-17-04, 02:06 PM Here's a link to a thread a member posted about a nice piece of furniture they're using for a 50" plasma...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=416358 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=416358&highlight=gadgetfreaky)
maybe this can help get you started.
gweempose 11-17-04, 02:41 PM My wife and I recently purchased this unit (http://www.jsp-industries.com/Pages/introhomethea.html). We picked it up at Tweeter last week when they were offering 25% off all furniture and no interest for 18 months. The sale may still be going on, but I'm not sure. The build quality of this piece is excellent and it looks beautiful in our family room. You can buy it with or without the upper display panel. As you can see from the picture, the panel is perfect for mounting a plasma. It also comes with cool illuminated glass shelves, which can come in handy if you have small satellite speakers.
mtbnate 11-17-04, 03:19 PM This is a great thread!
Now, if can just find that perfect piece of AV furniture to compliment my decor and my plasma...
:D
Why can't you wall mount the 50"? There are plenty of mounts that will work!
Steve
Sanus WFT3c, cherry veneer. reasonable price, around $1500 at Good Guys. Looks even nicer in person. The AV receiver and DVD player have been replaced with Denon units in silver finish, but you get the idea. Center speaker is an Infinity Overture 1 inside the center cloth grilled section of the furniture. Fished the wires through the wall, had a clock outlet installed behind the display.
It's been up for 7 months now and I'm happy to say, I'm finished with it. Once I got the Denon AVR 3805 and DVD 2900 installed, the only thing I added was an AirPort Express to play iTunes music from our laptops.
Wife is very happy with it and has since accessorized the stand with various objects d' art.
http://homepage.mac.com/larrysb/plasmainstall/mount.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/larrysb/plasmainstall/checkout.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/larrysb/plasmainstall/ahead.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/larrysb/plasmainstall/complete.jpg
tbuddha 11-17-04, 04:22 PM I have a Salamander "double" with a single-post plasma mount under my 43" plasma, but I have seen the "triple" under a two-post mount for a 50", and it looks great. I had the Salamander piece long before the plasma, and it is super sturdy. I love it even more now, since I also have windows (no wall) behind my TV, and this set up lets me place my center speaker under the plasma.
http://www.salamanderdesigns.com/syn/triples.jsp
crbaldwin 11-17-04, 04:53 PM This looks really nice. The "feet" in your picture look black but on the web they look silver. Is this an option?? Thanks.
mike442 11-18-04, 09:00 AM We were looking for a more traditional look for our plasma, and found the Stanley Furniture Plasma TV bookcase to our liking. I haven't seen it mentioned on this thread, so I wanted to pass it on:
http://www.stanleyfurniture.com/ViewPrintable.do?nav2=SHOMEHOME&nav3=SHOMHOMPLA&sku=366-17-31&nav1=SHOMEENTE
They have 4 different designs on their site.
It has a pretty think backing for mounting the plasma, but we chose to use the table mount since with our 50", it would only move it up an inch or two...
jason_j_a 11-25-04, 01:17 PM Here's my 42" Panasonic 7UY in our Amoire. It took my wife and I forever to find one that would fit everything and match our home. This one is perfect and was only $475.
jdallaire 11-30-04, 05:48 PM Here is finally my Plasma system completed. I waited 4 months to get the Ethan Allen Townhouse credenza. Burlwood stained 8 shelves for components. Also both side open up for DVD storage. This is the highest unit I could find at 36 inches high. There are so many low units on the market. This is the only unit I could find that would support 8 center shelves. This credenza weighs a ton and 2 people Had a hard time lifting this beautiful beast.
Please click on the Gallery button to see the credenza. I can't seem to import my JPG.
Here is a link to the Ethan Allen site
http://www.ethanallen.com/ea/com.ethanallen.ecom.FrameDirectorServlet?top=1&body=1
GregAMeyer 12-03-04, 06:49 PM Ethan Alan cannot actually get these units for people in anywhere near what they commit to... They quoted me 8 weeks in store, then later 10, I called to confirm delivery, and just got told it would be AT LEAST late January...
so don't hold your breath, there are other comprable units out there, get one of them, I'm going to.
---Greg
Keeping with the current theme, we ordered a bunk bed for our children from Ethan Allan. Quoted something like eight weeks, actual time was more like twenty five weeks. It required constant phoning as they wouldn't give us the time of day.
We've done a few rooms with their furniture, but that was the last time I'd ever buy from them again.
GregAMeyer 12-14-04, 02:32 PM Well they actually e-mailed us today to let us know that now the best we can hope for is Mid-February... that would be 6-months from the time we ordered it... last thing I'll ever buy from Ethan Alan... unreal.
ndabunka 12-15-04, 05:33 PM 'bout time to tell them to "shove it up their..."
overtime 12-15-04, 05:42 PM Greg - that is odd. My unit ordered at the beginning of October is still due in the end of December (I just called to check).
ot
AccuView 12-15-04, 10:58 PM I bought this credenza from Good Guys for $400 - 10%. I had seen similar units from other manufacturers priced in the $800-1000 range so I think it's a good deal. My 50" Pio is currently on it but will get wall mounted above it soon.
another good link is
www.jsp-industries.com
Check out the Jazzy collection. anyone interested pm me.
Aceman
JuiceRocket 12-16-04, 08:01 AM Interesting...supposedly one of the distributors for JSP (Tweeters) is all of .75 miles from my house. I'll have to go check that out. :)
-JR
Originally posted by GregAMeyer
Ethan Alan cannot actually get these units for people in anywhere near what they commit to... They quoted me 8 weeks in store, then later 10, I called to confirm delivery, and just got told it would be AT LEAST late January...
so don't hold your breath, there are other comprable units out there, get one of them, I'm going to.
---Greg
Crap like this is why I went the DIY route and built my own clone of this unit - with my own tweaks. Turned out even better than the Ethan Allen piece IMHO (see at my gallery) and for a fraction of the money! The unit fits perfect in my HT and Im glad I decided on going this route.
consumertalks 12-16-04, 11:30 AM Originally posted by pcrx
Crap like this is why I went the DIY route and built my own clone of this unit - with my own tweaks. Turned out even better than the Ethan Allen piece IMHO and for a fraction of the money!
Hey, you have Gallos! I was beginning to think I was the only one.. :p
loupham 12-16-04, 11:49 AM AccuView, that's a nice stand you got from good-guys. Who's the maker?
Originally posted by consumertalks
Hey, you have Gallos! I was beginning to think I was the only one.. :p
Cool! I love mine - when all calibrated with the sub they sound amazing. And in my tiny HT they are more than enough and look cool also. :)
AccuView 12-16-04, 02:07 PM Originally posted by loupham
AccuView, that's a nice stand you got from good-guys. Who's the maker?
Thanks! The maker is Elite Industries and the model number is EL-906. I have only seen it in Good Guys so far.
chmura89 12-16-04, 02:59 PM I got the StudioTech DP-2 in cherry with the optional mounting board. My panny 7UY looks as though it is floating in the air. Plenty of room for 6 components!
Got mine on sale.
The quality is excellent. The mounting board is as solid as a rock! The contemporary unit looks great in my family room.
My only complaint is the finish. A tad too dull with no depth and not much of a cherry glow. But I kept it and we love it.
SeaNile 12-16-04, 11:33 PM Been looking at all of those units. The Ethan Allen unit didn't look balanced with a 50" plasma and speaker under the display. Went with a wall mount and a unit from Pottery Barn (web order only). It's on back order but will post pics on my system when it's complete.
--John
GoHerdIBG 12-17-04, 07:40 PM I just received this item:
http://www.stanleyfurniture.com/ViewPrintable.do?nav2=SHOMEHOME&nav3=SHOMHOME01&sku=366-17-31&nav1=SHOMEENTE
and it is beautiful.
ritewinger 12-18-04, 10:07 AM Well here is my unit finally in place with the plasma on the wall. Don't mind the Christmas Tree on the right side. This is a piece from Ethan Allen because my wife would not go with the standard A/V pieces they had for plasma tv's.
Katana Man 12-20-04, 04:43 PM Click on images for full resolution:
http://www.comparecenter.com/photodata//James/People_City_and_Still/640/IMG_3656.jpg (http://www.comparecenter.com/photo//James/People_City_and_Still/IMG_3656.jpg)
http://www.comparecenter.com/photodata//James/People_City_and_Still/640/IMG_3661.jpg (http://www.comparecenter.com/photo//James/People_City_and_Still/IMG_3661.jpg)
What do you guys think of this teak entertainment center?
Bluewookie 12-20-04, 04:48 PM thats nice, what is it and where did you get it?
consumertalks 12-20-04, 04:57 PM Nice place, Katana Man! I don't know how you keep the carpet clean, but it looks good. :D
Originally posted by consumertalks
Nice place, Katana Man! I don't know how you keep the carpet clean, but it looks good. :D
Clearly there are no kids involved! :)
Just kidding...looks nice.
Katana Man 12-20-04, 05:19 PM Thanks! God has blessed me with a wonderful wife. She does a great job taking care of the house (http://www.comparecenter.com/photo//James/People_City_and_Still/IMG_3656.jpg).
http://www.ticana.com/bigImages/Ticana/2034Lisbon.jpg
(this one shown in natural cherry)
This entertainment center is from a Canadian company called Ticana Furnishings, Inc. ticana.com (http://www.ticana.com/navigation.htm). I do not believe you can order from them directly. We went through a local dealer who specializes in imports. It comes in natural cherry or teak. We got it on sale for around $1800 (normally around $2400). Built in lighting is included in that price.
We love the entertainment center. High quality, heavy duty, and looks good. I did have to get the jigsaw out and make the rear access holes bigger and allow for better ventilation and wiring.
We thought it would be nice to share this entertainment center with you guys, as we did not see it on this forum anywhere. It's the least we can do for all the help we've received here. Thanks guys.
The plan is to get a larger TV mounted on the wall, and use this 32" Sharp in our bed room. P.S. The curtains are not yet finished (my wife wanted you to know :) )
Plasma George 12-20-04, 07:56 PM Originally posted by gadgetfreaky
Wow, anyone notice how many views this thread has? That's because we love pictures.
See my gallery if you haven't yet, as I don't have any plasma furniture--but love pictures for ideas.
Katana Man 12-21-04, 12:07 AM Getting cozy next to the fireplace, watching a little monday night football:
http://www.comparecenter.com/photodata//James/People_City_and_Still/640/IMG_3717.jpg (http://www.comparecenter.com/photo//James/People_City_and_Still/IMG_3717.jpg)
there is some great info in this thread. thanks.
overtime 12-21-04, 10:24 AM Nice pics Katana Man. I can only hypothesize that my carpet might look that good without 2 kids and 2 large dogs :).
overtime
jaybrubin 12-21-04, 01:40 PM Ikea has a new piece for plasmas...
http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=12&productId=51511&langId=-1&parentCats=10104*10174
Width: 54 3/8 "
Depth: 20 7/8 "
Height: 31 1/2 "
Max. load: 220 lb
my only concern is the depth...
is this the holy grail of plamsa furniture?
consumertalks 12-21-04, 01:58 PM Originally posted by jaybrubin
Ikea has a new piece for plasmas...
http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=12&productId=51511&langId=-1&parentCats=10104*10174
Width: 54 3/8 "
Depth: 20 7/8 "
Height: 31 1/2 "
Max. load: 220 lb
my only concern is the depth...
is this the holy grail of plamsa furniture?
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice!! Obviously it's IKEA, but this looks fantastic- no beech veneer! I've been watching Dania, West Elm, and others for slimmer stands/sideboards for about a month now. My stand (see gallery button @ top of my post) is a hair under 14", as my huuuge rug and ottomans only allow 17" of space. I may have to pick this up and deal with the extra few inches, hopefully a little putty and a quick stain would allow for this w/out the doors? 54" would just fit my plasma, so left/center/right could hide inside on the top shelf like Madagascar Hissing Cockroaches in the $50k Fear Factor champion's mouth! :D
jaybrubin 12-21-04, 04:02 PM unfortunately the glass door enclosed shelves are only 12 inches...
what component is only 12 inches wide...this sucks...
the cabinet is 12 x 26 x 12
sounds like the center cabinet is the only place for components...
urghhhhhh
BodegaBay 12-21-04, 05:51 PM Originally posted by BruZZi
...
Bush Furniture has some interesting Plasma Stands (cheap prices). I just don't know about their built quality...
I've seen the Bush Edgewood (VS31543 or VS1358801, same model) at Circuit City and it's a pretty good piece of "furniture" for veneered fiberboard. The cognac veneer is tasteful and contemporary unlike the plain oak or fake cherry for units of this price range. I've read that it talkes a while to assemble it but it is a very affordable unit for people looking for value.
I was looking for a unit bigger than my Salamander Twin20 without spending another $600-800 for a Twin30. Granted, it's no Salamander but it looks pretty good and I'll give it a shot. FYI -- Circuit City is a having their "Night Owl" sale before Christmas and this unit is marked down to $240 (http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Bush-Plasma-DLP-TV-Console--VS1358801-/sem/rpsm/oid/93511/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do). Add $15-20 for tax totalling $255, it's a steal. The internal space is bigger than the Ikea unit. It's by far cheaper at CC vs the other online e-tailers which surprised me.
http://www.bush-furniture-online.com/xmodels/bush/VS31543h.jpg
Lamphead 12-21-04, 07:10 PM Originally posted by consumertalks
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiice!! Obviously it's IKEA, but this looks fantastic- no beech veneer! I've been watching Dania, West Elm, and others for slimmer stands/sideboards for about a month now. My stand (see gallery button @ top of my post) is a hair under 14", as my huuuge rug and ottomans only allow 17" of space. I may have to pick this up and deal with the extra few inches, hopefully a little putty and a quick stain would allow for this w/out the doors? 54" would just fit my plasma, so left/center/right could hide inside on the top shelf like Madagascar Hissing Cockroaches in the $50k Fear Factor champion's mouth! :D
I bought the Markor display stand a few days ago for my Panny 42PD25. It fits it REALLY well. And unfortunately the components only fit horizontally in the middle section. As I've got a small rug rat and wanted the components behind glass, I ended up sticking the components VERTICALLY on the right hand bay, where they fit. I'll post a pic when I get home tonight. The only issue I have is that my center channel doesn't really have a good place to sit- it's a bit long so it currently blocks the IR port on the plasma. But other than that- the stand is very nicely done. It's a keeper.
Just got plasma, etc. set up with a table I built. Basic idea is taken from a Pottery Barn table a buddy is using under his wall-mounted unit. This set-up gives a good viewing height, plenty of room for compenents and storage, easy access, and good ventilation. Downsides include visible cords, components, etc. Might have to rework the interior legs as they are more visible than I expected.
BodegaBay 12-23-04, 12:45 PM Originally posted by jbjtb
Just got plasma, etc. set up with a table I built. Basic idea is taken from a Pottery Barn table a buddy is using under his wall-mounted unit. This set-up gives a good viewing height, plenty of room for compenents and storage, easy access, and good ventilation. Downsides include visible cords, components, etc. Might have to rework the interior legs as they are more visible than I expected.
Nice effort on the woodworking. Nothing like being able to do your own woodworking vs. spending $$$. One thing you might consider is creating a backing on the back of the unit with strategically placed cable management holes. Use some sort of thin fiberboard or MDF or wood -- maybe painting it to contrast or match the color of your wall. Or perhaps even overlaying the backing it with vinyl, leather, or sude.
overtime 12-23-04, 12:49 PM Just learned that the delivery date on my ethan allen unit has been pushed back to the end of January! :mad:
I was hoping to get a tv mid-month...oh well. Oh yeah...I'm strongly leaning towards the NEC based on your review Bodegabay (and ghilema's as well). Sounds just like what I'm looking forl.
overtime
jfranche 12-23-04, 01:05 PM Ethan Allen unit is nice.
Not to be a jerk, though looking through some links\photos of how people have their systems setup - I am amazed that people spend up to $10,000 on a TV and spend less then $1000 on the furniture to put it on.
Reminds me of the guys with the $40,000 cars (on bad term leases) that live with three guys in a studio apartment. OK, not that bad.
Katana Man 12-23-04, 01:10 PM I agree. I think it's important to get some nice looking, well made furniture. It's a good investment, and the wives will love you for it.
overtime 12-23-04, 01:13 PM Are you saying the Ethan Allen unit isn't up to par because it costs less than $1000? :p
So far I prefer it to any unit I've seen at any price (not counting custom).
overtime
Katana Man 12-23-04, 01:22 PM The Ethan Allen unit is nice. I just think some people don't plan out there purchases very well when they spend every last nickel on the electronics, and don't leave any budget for the furniture. It's understandable though, as a man, I get very excited about electronics purchases. But I've learned to keep the wife in mind too :)
BodegaBay 12-23-04, 02:11 PM I agree -- good furniture can is always preferred if one has the means to afford them.
However, as Devil's advocate...
There is a big difference for people spending a $10K plasma vs. a $5K plasma. The people spending $10K either usually pay retail B&M store. People spending $5K and below find good value in purchasing their units online. For many of those people, $1-2K for addtional furniture just puts it out of their budget.
I still think that one can still find excellent furniture under $1K (I admit, I do watch HGTV). For many, value, decor taste, and room requirements rule the type and cost of the furniture.
I will bring this argument one step further. If one is spending a "$10K" plasma, then why settle for a reciever and $1K speakers. Why not have invest in a Lexicon pre-pro or BAT amp or Ariel speakers? How about that $30K-$40 car? Why OEM head unit or speakers vs. Alpine F1s? Why cloth seats vs. leather?
And even a further argument. Why are we actually having this discussion about "perfect plasma furniture?" The perfect plasma furniture is NO furniture at all -- it should be hung on a wall. The sex apeal to a plasma besides PQ is it's thinness. Yet people will spend $1K-3K on cabinets, stands, and "entertaiment centers" that protrude 20-35" from the wall? One could argue that it is like sticking a face of a goddess to a well dressed wrestler's body. Unless the plasma is somehow physically connected to that cabinet (ie a stand or wood or metal supports on the back of the cabinet), it's not even considered "plasma furniture" at all. Everything else is just an A/V cabinet -- which is what my Salamander Twin20 is -- I wall mount my plasma.
In the end, I think everyone here has a different take on what their "perfect plasma furniture" to be. What seems reasonable to one person, might not to others. It's all relative.
Costco has a decent piece of furniture now too, at $1099 shipped.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=11030787&whse=&topnav=&cat=
Originally posted by Katana Man
I agree. I think it's important to get some nice looking, well made furniture. It's a good investment, and the wives will love you for it.
Utah?
;)
x-spyder-x 12-25-04, 01:52 PM That costco stand looks nice, but is it solid, or is it like a whooper, looks good in the picture, but is soggy in real life?
Autophile 12-26-04, 06:31 PM I am using a Jon Alexander stand for my plasma/HT. It is the "Zero Gravity" unit.
Since this is my first post, I suppose I should list what I have.
I have:
Fujitsu P50 (10)
NAD T 761
Denon 1910
Panamax 5100
Voom HD
Polk RM7600 w/PSW650
MX-500 remote
Jason
Autophile 12-26-04, 06:36 PM left side
Autophile 12-26-04, 06:37 PM right side
Autophile 12-26-04, 06:38 PM side view
ndabunka 12-27-04, 04:15 PM Thanks for the contribution Autophile. Although I generally like modern stying, I think that this one really missed the boat.
GregAMeyer 12-27-04, 04:48 PM Overtime (and anyone else waiting on EA), I know you're waiting for Ethan Alan too... what they have (most recently) told me is the units are leaving the factory later than anticipated and won't arrive at my place until at least Mid-February... I've got some head of customer service involved, but she's as useless as the rest of them for providing information... still have to call and pull teeth to get an update.
Funny thing is... this unit is at a very inexpensive price, if they could actually figure out how to make them, I'm sure they could move them at a much higher price even... incompetence is soooooo sad to watch.
Greg
brzilian 12-28-04, 04:31 PM As a former furniture designer at Bush Industries, I would tell people to stay away from their product. I was not involved in the home furnishings side of the business but can tell you their designers really don't have a clue when it comes to HEC furniture pieces.
The quality really isn't there either...
You can get much better product from other RTA manufacturers like Z-Line Designs.
Cattledog 12-28-04, 04:40 PM http://www.parker-house.com/ph.htm
CD
jaybrubin 12-28-04, 08:06 PM this stand from sauder looks as good as a salamander twin and cost next to nothing....for a samll stand that holds your components and center speaker on top...
http://www.sauder.com/images/drawings/normal/Universal_TV_Stand_8851-103_1.jpg
http://www.sauder.com/furniture/product.asp?p=136
jaybrubin 12-28-04, 08:14 PM or better yet how does this stack against the salamander triple...it only costs $272...
http://www.sauder.com/images/product/larger/Entertainment_Credenza_8854-103_1.jpg
Dimensions
W:59 1/2" (151.0cm)
D:21 3/8" (54.4cm)
H:24 3/8" (61.8cm)
TV shelf
W:59 1/2" (151.0cm)
TV Weight Limit
240 lbs. (109 kg.)
brzilian 12-28-04, 08:21 PM Salamander Designs - made from real wood with veneers
Sauder - made from particleboard covered with paper laminate.
You get what you pay for. Particleboard will eventually bow with the weight of a TV. The product itself will become wobbly because of the constrution used in RTA product. Also, paper laminates will not hold up over time and are easily scratched.
I worked as a furniture designer for Bush Industries. I know a little about how this stuff is constructed. :)
but for 1/5 of the cost, I can afford to replace it as the technology and my needs change :). You can wall-mount the plasma above the unit to prevent the bowing effect from TV weight...
That said, anyone that buys a plasma likely appreciates quality, and the salamander is definitely nice. Me, I'm likely to save a $1000+ and get the Sauder to start. If it doesn't feel right, I'll move it into a bedroom or the office.
Vincelorto 12-28-04, 08:42 PM The Salamander Triple online say its $849. Where did you get the $272 price?
$272 - that's the Sauder price. The Salamander comparable unit is ~$1400 (assuming you like having doors, a drawer, side panels, etc. like the Sauder has).
Vincelorto 12-28-04, 09:10 PM Ah. I understand now. Thanks.
crbaldwin 12-28-04, 10:23 PM Originally posted by brzilian
Salamander Designs - made from real wood with veneers
Sauder - made from particleboard covered with paper laminate.
In my opinion it's more like:
Salamander Designs - priced like it's "solid" wood but looks like Sauder
Sauder - priced appropriately for what it is
I'm sure the Salamander stuff is stronger and would last longer as you said but from what I've seen the price doesn't match how it looks.
dmwierz 12-28-04, 10:42 PM All,
I've been browsing through this discussion, and something finally dawned on me: why put a plasma TV on top of/inside of a cabinet at all? If you were going to have to make room for a cabinet anyway, then why not go with an RPV or DLP TV? You could get a MUCH larger screen and even save a bit of money and arguably get a better picture for less money.
Don't get me wrong, I have a 42" plasma tv, but I bought it cuz I didn't have room for the size of an RPTV and its cabinet. We mounted it on the wall and put the components in a wall-recess in another place in the room. Also, the cabinets shown in this thread are undeniably great looking, but if you're gonna make room for a cabinet/credenza, why go with a plasma?
jaybrubin 12-28-04, 11:00 PM Originally posted by dmwierz
All,
I've been browsing through this discussion, and something finally dawned on me: why put a plasma TV on top of/inside of a cabinet at all? If you were going to have to make room for a cabinet anyway, then why not go with an RPV or DLP TV? You could get a MUCH larger screen and even save a bit of money and arguably get a better picture for less money.
Don't get me wrong, I have a 42" plasma tv, but I bought it cuz I didn't have room for the size of an RPTV and its cabinet. We mounted it on the wall and put the components in a wall-recess in another place in the room. Also, the cabinets shown in this thread are undeniably great looking, but if you're gonna make room for a cabinet/credenza, why go with a plasma?
good point...but notice that some people use a tiny credenze cabinat with a wall mount above...in a minmalist fasion...like the one below...
http://www.sauder.com/images/product/normal/Universal_TV_Stand_8851-103_1.jpg
brzilian 12-29-04, 08:00 AM Originally posted by crbaldwin
In my opinion it's more like:
Salamander Designs - priced like it's "solid" wood but looks like Sauder
Sauder - priced appropriately for what it is
I'm sure the Salamander stuff is stronger and would last longer as you said but from what I've seen the price doesn't match how it looks.
Have you ever seen the Salamander product in person? I don't agree with your statement. Salamander makes use of higher end dimensional edgebanding treatment where Sauder uses your standard 1mm "el-cheapo" edgebanding.
The method of construction on a Salamander piece is much more sophisticated with the aluminum extrusions (Synergy) where Sauder uses your typical K-D fasteners which eventually blow right out of the wood.
Salamander also uses quality casters and feet where Sauder buys hardware straight out of a catalog (like Bush and O'Sullivan) which are cheap $1 pieces molded in China.
Finally the insert materials Salamander uses are much nicer than the clear 7 or 8mm glass Sauder uses.
jaybrubin 12-29-04, 08:08 AM no disagreement over the salient differences between the salamander product and sauder...but the price differential is quite significant...and my home theater needs will change so i am thinking try the sauder out...by the way is the sauder worse than the ikea [magkier] type stuff as well?
crbaldwin 12-29-04, 08:51 AM Originally posted by brzilian
Have you ever seen the Salamander product in person? I don't agree with your statement.
Yes, and I was going to buy it until I saw it in person a few times. The edges of the top pieces are painted a different color than the other surfaces. The aluminum pieces are attached with hardware that is exposed on the top piece. The doors have a very flimsy feel to them. Other than the obvious aluminum pieces that Salamander uses, it was hard for me to distinguish between their stuff and other cheap laminate furniture. It was dissappointing because they have excellent flexibility with their configurations but I just couldn't justify spending ~$2000 for something with such a "cheap" feel to it.
We just purchased the 5th avenue plasma center. We decided to only buy the bottom piece. The top part that holds the plasma is about $500. They're having a huge sale with 40 months no interest and 40% off the $1400 retail price.
psychik 12-29-04, 11:05 AM dmwierz,
I was reading this thread and thinking I was going to add a comment ... but then I saw your post and realized I almost don't have anything to add, since you expressed my point exactly. Thank you..
*****
...why put a plasma TV on top of/inside of a cabinet at all? If you were going to have to make room for a cabinet anyway, then why not go with an RPV or DLP TV?...
*****
In my opinion plasmas and LCDs are begging to be put on the wall or attached in some similar "flat" manner. Of course it's a matter of style and preference, but if you put a plasma on a counter top 20 + inch thick, you might as well put a rear projection unit on it, taking up the same 20".
Of course then there's a question of "dude, where do my components go?". One reasonable solution I found was this unit by Draper (...Unfortunately the forum rules don't allow me to post links yet, so google for Draper Aero CF3000 or Draper Aero CF2000), or go to "draperinc dot com".
Those stands protrude only a couple of inches from the wall and allow to attach a TV and a number of shelves for the components. The main column has a power unit, it also conceals cables and rotates a few degrees sideways. One issue that I have with the unit is that shelves only support up to 22 lbs, so some extra support has to be added for those 50 lb receivers of yours.
Another consideration is kids. I don't have any yet, (... soon :) ), but I see a real problem with a cabinet setup and kids running around a plasma screen standing unsecurely on it, and for kids having access to the AV components. My point is that a floor-to-ceiling draper column allows attaching shelves anywhere you like. So when kids start to run around, just move shelves higher up (perhaps even above the screen) and that should do it...
Note: I didn't get the unit yet, but these are my considerations for it. I'd love to hear your comments on this. Does anyone have one of these ???
Oleg.
crbaldwin 12-29-04, 11:32 AM I initially had the same thoughts. Since I'm going to get a cabinet anyways, why not just save some money and get a DLP to sit on top? That was until I compared the DLP picture quality and aesthetics to the plasmas and DLP was no longer a consideration.
My plan is to get a plasma and mount it on the wall right above a slim cabinet. I think this looks nice and you get the illusion of having more space compared to an RP sitting on top (which is important in my small room). This also gives space to put my center channel on top of the cabinet which also will (hopefully) hide the wires. Since the tv is mounted on the wall I'll just install some kid locks on the cabinet doors and it then should be "child-proofed". That is my plan anyways...
100% agreement on all points.
brzilian 12-29-04, 01:31 PM Originally posted by jaybrubin
no disagreement over the salient differences between the salamander product and sauder...but the price differential is quite significant...and my home theater needs will change so i am thinking try the sauder out...by the way is the sauder worse than the ikea [magkier] type stuff as well?
I consider IKEA to be one step above domestic RTA furniture from the SOB's (Sauder, O'Sullivan and Bush). IKEA makes use of veneer surfaces rather than paper laminates. Their construction seems to be a bit more solid as well. I have several IKEA pieces which have gone through a move - they stood up just fine. The Bush stuff I bought with my employee discount wobbles and got scracthed up pretty good.
ndabunka 12-29-04, 04:21 PM Originally posted by dmwierz
All,
I've been browsing through this discussion, and something finally dawned on me: why put a plasma TV on top of/inside of a cabinet at all? If you were going to have to make room for a cabinet anyway, then why not go with an RPV or DLP TV? You could get a MUCH larger screen and even save a bit of money and arguably get a better picture for less money.
Don't get me wrong, I have a 42" plasma tv, but I bought it cuz I didn't have room for the size of an RPTV and its cabinet. We mounted it on the wall and put the components in a wall-recess in another place in the room. Also, the cabinets shown in this thread are undeniably great looking, but if you're gonna make room for a cabinet/credenza, why go with a plasma?
This thread is large and contains a number of ideas/plans for Plasma. Much of what you are reading now grew from people (like me) seeking a unit that was thin (ie. not deep) and had the incorporated lift system built into the cabinet (ala the REASON for the cabinet in those designs was to hide the plasma until needed). Most of these units are taller than these base units and look similar to a tall credenza or a formal serving bar from a dinning room set. Of course, others want to simply mount their plasma to a wall-like peice of furniture (ala the EA stuff) and other yet need an inexpensive place to set theirs (ala the Saunder stuff). IMHO the Salamander and other expensive options are simply ways some people try to further their "style". Not worth it IMHO.
ndabunka 12-29-04, 04:24 PM Originally posted by brzilian
As a former furniture designer at Bush Industries, I would tell people to stay away from their product. I was not involved in the home furnishings side of the business but can tell you their designers really don't have a clue when it comes to HEC furniture pieces.
The quality really isn't there either...
You can get much better product from other RTA manufacturers like Z-Line Designs.
What is RTA? I take it that you are referring to particle board designs (of which I personally do not buy). Does Busch own a higher-end company that makes similar designs?
dmwierz 12-29-04, 04:25 PM RTA = Ready to Assemble
brzilian 12-30-04, 08:15 AM Originally posted by ndabunka
What is RTA? I take it that you are referring to particle board designs (of which I personally do not buy). Does Busch own a higher-end company that makes similar designs?
No, Bush's primary focus is particleboard based furniture. They are trying to follow the crowd and import solid wood product from China. From what I have seen, the quality isn't there though.
They own a German furniture company called Rohr which actually has some very interesting product, but everytime Bush tries to bring something over they "tweak" it to death for the US market and it just turns into crap.
RTA stands for Ready To Assemble.
Here's my Studiotech U-22-T cabinet with my new NEC 50XM4. It is similar to the Synergy Triple 20 in dimensions but has a somewhat different design. The front is slightly curved and the doors have a black metal mesh for ventilation. It's not quite as red as it appears in this attachment, though. I have more pictures of the unit in my gallery (with my plasma's predecessor).
Anyone interested in specs, etc can check out studiotech.com for more information.
Just picked up this Z-Line 2354-1S from eBay for $39. Have the Panny 42PWD7UY on top. Like the stand with it's black glass shelves and silver trim that matches the components.
That looks very nice. Seems like you found a bargain.
Vincelorto 12-31-04, 12:59 AM If anyone is in Fountain Valley, CA., Costco BM has a pretty nice TV stand in a cherry finish made by Whalen Furniture (Monaco TV COnsole). It measures 51" wide, 25" deep, & 28" tall. It sells for $270 (ish). THere is two side panels (doors) for Cds/DVD's. THere is a 2 door center console that has one adjustable dividing shelf. I was able to fit my Receiver, Cable box, Zenith 318 DVD player, Onkyo 6 disk CD changer, & PS2 (standing on side) all in the center. THe build is very sturdy & nice. It holds up to 300 lbs. It is only CM wider than my 42" Vizio ED with speakers attached. This is OK for me since I'll be mounting the TV on the wall soon. I definitely prefer this to any Saunder piece I"ve seen. It's worth a looksee if you want Cherry. I bought it tonight & was very happy. It was a compromise with the wifey. We both wanted the Ethan Allen piece but spent too much money this Xmas. If I ever get my room cleaned up, I'll try to post a photo.
Vince
mark_1080p 12-31-04, 03:31 AM If it ain't solid wood - NO THANKS.
Ethan Allen used to do alot of solid wood. But now ...
Beware of words like "finish", just another word for veneer or veneered PARTICLEBOARD.
If its solid, the top will be "planked" and glued.
Particleboard and vinyl siding - is this country getting ugly ?
Check out a new development lately ? The stuff is everywhere.
Would anyone visit Italy, a beautiful place, if the buildings were vinyl siding?
Yep - some of this stuff is on the unbricked parts of my own house !
overtime 12-31-04, 11:34 AM The Ethan Allen unit has now been pushed back to mid-February. Not only that but this service lady gave me serious lip when I asked how to go about canceling the order since I was told 12 weeks at the latest and the projection is now 17+weeks. Furthermore last week I was told late January and that the unit was shipping (4 weeks to ship? sheesh). The fact that the timeline was again pushed out would indicate that I was lied to. What is going on with those guys?
Time to go investigate Salamander options (priced somewhat comparable). I no longer have the patience to indefinitely hold off on getting a new tv and I don't trust the EA unit will be ready in Feb.
overtime
ndabunka 12-31-04, 10:20 PM Overtime - Why not cancel the order. It's not like they honored THEIR part of the agreement. They were obligated to get you the unit in a reasonable timeframe. Customer Service Reps have NO POWER. Go straight to the place you bought the the unit from. By-pass your salesman (useless in this case) and ask to speak ONLY to the manager. If you get any flack, ask to have the manager call you back @ 8:00am Monday morning to discuss how they are going to correc their error (as in reduce the price a couple hundred in compensation for the additional dealys or give you back you money THAT DAY). Get the store manager on it and you "might" see it more quickly or... Be like 95% of people and wait... baaaabbaaaaa...
CraiginNJ 01-01-05, 03:13 AM FWIW, I ordered something from Ethan Allen and the order paperwork says that if they miss a particular date, I can cancel. No huff, no fuss. If your paperwork is similar, I would imagine you can cancel at whim once the specified deadline is missed, no matter how much squirming the salesperson does.
... But that begs the question of whether you'd really be satisfied with something else. It takes me so much work to find furniture I like that I'm more eager to wait a few more weeks than have to buy something else elsewhere.
Craig
x-spyder-x 01-02-05, 06:48 PM has anybody bought the bush furniture, or the bush plasma mount? If so is it sturdy. Also what about the other brands plasma mounts, salamander and so on, how do they fair?
This is a pretty cool looking stand http://www.eurway.com/item_display.lasso?id=3011&-token.id=12542573&cat=96&s=24. It isn't out yet but they said it will be in mid-Jan.
jaybrubin 01-02-05, 08:02 PM Originally posted by Vincelorto
If anyone is in Fountain Valley, CA., Costco BM has a pretty nice TV stand in a cherry finish made by Whalen Furniture (Monaco TV COnsole). It measures 51" wide, 25" deep, & 28" tall. It sells for $270 (ish). THere is two side panels (doors) for Cds/DVD's. THere is a 2 door center console that has one adjustable dividing shelf. I was able to fit my Receiver, Cable box, Zenith 318 DVD player, Onkyo 6 disk CD changer, & PS2 (standing on side) all in the center. THe build is very sturdy & nice. It holds up to 300 lbs. It is only CM wider than my 42" Vizio ED with speakers attached. This is OK for me since I'll be mounting the TV on the wall soon... If I ever get my room cleaned up, I'll try to post a photo.
Vince
i am interested in this model information...photo please.....
consumertalks 01-02-05, 08:03 PM Originally posted by smwein
This is a pretty cool looking stand http://www.eurway.com/item_display.lasso?id=3011&-token.id=12542573&cat=96&s=24. It isn't out yet but they said it will be in mid-Jan.
That looks interesting! I think with all the ED plasmas being sold right now, there'll be more stands like that coming out with lower prices. I hope! :D
jaybrubin 01-02-05, 08:51 PM check this out...
http://www.artisan-design.co.uk/modular_run_closed_with_tv_8.jpg
Vincelorto 01-02-05, 09:48 PM Jay,
I have no way to host a photo. I will email you if you want.
Vince
Originally posted by Vincelorto
Jay,
I have no way to host a photo. I will email you if you want.
Vince
Send it as attachment. :)
Can't be too big:
Maximum size: 512000 bytes
Maximum pixels: 640x640
bobaphx 01-03-05, 12:25 AM jaybrubin... re: "check this out"
I don't want a TV stand or component rack. I'm looking for a long, low piece of furniture to place under a plasma on a 13' long wall. Something similair to the look of the piece in the picture you just posted is sort of what I have in mind (all doors would be better). Where is this piece of furniture from?
Ron Alcasid 01-03-05, 09:20 AM Here another option at hold everything for $295
Make a home for a wide-screen with the Harmon wide TV stand. It holds TVs up to 48" on its top shelf, with plenty of room for components and media on the shelves below. Made of American white oak with a deep espresso stain, to lend warmth to your space. Brushed stainless-steel stanchions with self-leveling feet. Wire management. Assembly required.
Dimensions
48 L x 21 3/4 W x 23" H
harmon tv stand (http://www1.holdeverything.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?partNumber=HE-PROD1337&parent_category_rn=&retainNav=true&storeId=11001&langId=-1&catalogId=11001)
http://www1.holdeverything.com/media/HE/2005_Spring_1/xHE05W394_1337_S05_041214014812_PIP_large.jpg
overtime 01-03-05, 11:33 AM bobaphx - my wife and I were out yesterday looking for a filing cabinet at Scandinavian Designs and we found what I think would make a good entertainment credenza if your tv is wall mounted. It was a beautiful cherry, 85" long bookcase that stood 25" high. The top shelf was slightly rounded towards the middle and overhung the lower shelves (two rows of shelves plenty wide for components). The only question is whether or not the 15" lower shelf depth is deep enough for components. If EA doesn't come through soon I'm tempted to go this route.
The best part? $199. :D
overtime
I currently use a lockable media cabinet from Ikea, The Leksvik TV unit. It's OK, rather deep unit and with a Panny 42WD6UY on the wall it protrudes out a bit since it's >24" deep, but the key here for me was it has lockable glass doors.
With two kids many of the nice pieces discussed in this tread is just not feasable, either because of Glass, Sharp corners and easy access for curious hands.
Does Anyone have suggestions for KID safe Plasma Furniture?
My other option was to get a media credenza and put a velcro clear pleziglass in front of the components
BodegaBay 01-03-05, 01:38 PM Originally posted by overtime
bobaphx - my wife and I were out yesterday looking for a filing cabinet at Scandinavian Designs and we found what I think would make a good entertainment credenza if your tv is wall mounted. It was a beautiful cherry, 85" long bookcase that stood 25" high. The top shelf was slightly rounded towards the middle and overhung the lower shelves (two rows of shelves plenty wide for components). The only question is whether or not the 15" lower shelf depth is deep enough for components. If EA doesn't come through soon I'm tempted to go this route.
The best part? $199. :D
Was it this
item? (http://www.scandinaviandesigns.com/?page=shop/flypage&page_back=shop/category_items&offset=6&product_id=579&category_id=1daa0d19ea4b945e437120f02c136ddd) Albeit without the hutch portion?
http://www.scandinaviandesigns.com/shop_image/product/07b2afdbe74e9416e8d505ccbbf0cc95.jpg
overtime 01-03-05, 01:43 PM Bingo! Nice find. The one I saw was cherry and that picture you posted is a little misleading because there is no way a directview would fit on top of it and be stable (its a fairly shallow unit). That top shelf might be 22" deep but the lower shelves were only 15". I think it would be a really bad idea to put the glass of a direct view CRT on that overhang...
overtime
BodegaBay 01-03-05, 01:54 PM Yep, I saw that the unit comes in different veneers as well. I agree, 15" usable depth is too shallow, especially with today's power amplifiers. It might be good for entry level AVRs and other AV components.
Good luck with your continuing hunt for the furniture and flat panel -- whatever they may be!
overtime 01-03-05, 02:05 PM Thanks. Everything has been decided (50XR4)...now I just have to wait for the furniture to come in. I'm sic'ing my wife on the EA people (woe be them) and if they don't come through then we'll probably go the Salamander route.
overtime
pstrisik 01-03-05, 02:30 PM Here's another possibility for TV console. It is a Whittier Wood Products piece. It is an Oregon (I think) company that makes cheap ready-to-assemble/finish furniture. A step up from the others since they use solid pine for their kits. I bought just the console (center piece) for about $275 at Fred Meyer (a Kroger store). Each of the pieces are sold separately.
Once I get mine built and finished, I'll post a better pic. I'm probably going to leave the doors off for better component access. Don't know yet. The shelves are plenty deep (22" I think) and each side is more than wide enough for standard components. The overall width is about 40" (from memory).
(This is my first attachment, so here's hoping it comes through!)
Vincelorto 01-03-05, 03:34 PM I hope this works. From Costco
Vincelorto 01-03-05, 03:35 PM & Open: From Costco
Melville 01-03-05, 04:45 PM I am purchasing a Sanus Natural 213 that has an accessory PDP frame that attaches to the rear of the unit - very nice looking. I don't have it yet, but the frame looks very well-built and is adjustable for height. The prices, respectively, are US$379 and US$179. It will hold my Panny 42" EDTV. With the display attached to the frame, there is room for 6 components, or 4 components and a CC speaker.
Chris J 01-03-05, 05:08 PM Here's a web site with a nice selection of Plasma TV Stands (http://www.eurofurniture.com/shop/category_1.aspx?CrumbID=ev&CatID=26)
Don Black 01-03-05, 05:46 PM Those are mostly made by BDI.
www.bdiusa.com
joemama127 01-03-05, 05:48 PM Kinda defeats one of the purposes of getting a plasma if you put in on a stand....nevertheless since I am still in an apartment I will probably go that route for a while.;)
RightHere 01-03-05, 05:53 PM Now that the cost of Plasma and LCD TV's are dropping significantly, I wonder if we can expect to see similar drops in furniture prices.
joemama127 01-03-05, 06:01 PM Originally posted by RightHere
Now that the cost of Plasma and LCD TV's are dropping significantly, I wonder if we can expect to see similar drops in furniture prices. I wouldn't bet on it, most people are still charging an outrageous sum for the small, uncomplicated piece of steel called a "wall mount".:p
Ron Alcasid 01-03-05, 07:16 PM yet another option...
Studiotech HF-33 (http://www.studiotech.com/jsp/productDetail.jsp?prodID=64)
http://www.studiotech.com/images/products/HF-33_B_B_webheader.jpg
mooneydriver 01-03-05, 08:23 PM For those of you who are interested in the Studiotech U-22 but worried about center speaker placement behind the metal mesh, here's some fresh news from Studiotech (e-mail correspondence with their customer support):
Around March we will launch a redesign of the 67" wide U-22T cabinet with a center channel accommodation; this will enable you to fit the middle section of the cabinet with a fabric cover instead of the mesh. If you are contemplating a purchase, that may be another option you will want to take into consideration.
spacecadet610 01-03-05, 08:35 PM Sauder makes cheap plasma furniture too that isn't the greatest quality but it looks nice. I just posted my pic of my setup in the Photo Gallery section. I am unable to post the liink because I have not done 5 posts yet.
You guys have some nice units.
http://hometheaterhut.4t.com/images/plasma_1.jpg
I built mine from an ikea shelf. I added frosted glass doors. It holds 4 components. Cost me about $150.
Herm
glennm0270 01-23-05, 05:17 PM I've seen quite a few posts in this thread about the Hooker popup plasma credenzas. I like the concept, and they have a very high WAF in my house.
I have a question for anyone who actually owns one of these: The main unit is listed as approximately 24" deep, and the brochure says that it has 2 adjustable shelves. Given the room the TV (50" Panny, most likely) will take up inside the cabinet, do those shelves have enough room to hold a receiver that is approx 15" deep?
I know there are optional side media units that can be added, but they won't work for me, so I'm looking for info about whether I can put my receiver in the cabinet itself.
TIA.
Curious if anyone has experience with these models. I'm torn between a desk stand on the TechCraft or this mount on the Sanus. I guess I can purchase this stand and buy the Plasma mount if I need to. I like it in Cherry stain. Not a bad price either. It may also solve my center channel placement problem.
https://www.sanus.com/images/NFPM.jpg
http://www.techcraft-furniture.com/htm/products/monaco/images/ptv48cx.jpg
cajieboy 01-24-05, 10:20 AM Originally posted by Herman
You guys have some nice units.
http://hometheaterhut.4t.com/images/plasma_1.jpg
I built mine from an ikea shelf. I added frosted glass doors. It holds 4 components. Cost me about $150.
Herm
Beautiful clean looking design & install that matches the display perfectly. What type of speakers are those shown in the pic?
I'm considering upgrading to a 50" plasma but WAF is critical. I will be selling a very nice entertainment center which does not accomodate a larger than 34" screen (currently direct-view). Here's a pic of what I have now (from Ethan Allen) which I'm selling:
http://marcappel.com:8889/ext.dll?mfcisapicommand=imgjpg&file=/MyPics/House/newden/IMG_4181.JPG&fun=resample&a0=600
I'm looking for something along the lines of the Salamander stands as in this picture:
http://gallery.avsforum.com/showphoto.php?photo=2936&sort=1&size=big&cat=502
What I like about the above setup is there's space under the plasma for a rather large center channel speaker (mine is 20" wide). Obviously I need shelves for components as well.
Quality of construction is very important. The Ethan Allen piece I have now is really well built. Its a legitimate piece of quality furniture. I want something with the same quality but similar in design to the above picture. I'm certainly considering the Salamander stand but I'm not sure about the quality. I also don't love the metal grills on the doors nor the frosted glass option.
Can anyone suggest any ideas for me? I've been scowering the internet trying to find a good option. Next step is to go furniture shopping but finding a unit suitable for components and the center channel speaker is proving to be a challenge. Because of the window (see first picture) I can't mount on the wall.
Thanks for any help,
Marc
pstrisik 01-24-05, 11:50 AM If you haven't already. Read through:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=416358&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
and
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=496869&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
In fact, good chance the mods will merge these threads. My post won't make sense if they do! :eek:
Those are good threads.. looks like I'm not the only one with this problem!
Thanks.
cheridave 01-24-05, 12:12 PM Threads Merged!
Dave
jaybrubin 01-28-05, 05:47 PM yooo...
check this out...
had it custom made...
nothing i saw fit the bill...
500 bucks... and it does not even have the glass doors installed yet...
read it and weep...hahahahaha
BodegaBay 01-28-05, 06:25 PM Nice Jay -- I bet it is even more with the glass doors on. When nothing standard fits, go CUSTOM!
jaybrubin 01-28-05, 06:34 PM $75 a door x 2 = 150... half the cost of doors from salamander
cool checkered pattern glass doord with the same wood frame...
the guy that built it helped me save some money...by letting me fill in the holes...sand...stain and polyerathane it myslef...
now should i give it a cherry stain to macth speakers...
the natural unfinished look is very nice...
will i ruin it by going darker...?
cvoytek 01-28-05, 07:48 PM I have this Salamander 30 now - http://www.salamanderdesigns.com/syn/synergy.jsp?modelbase=su30
I got a quote to add parts to it to make it a double (reasonabletop and bottom, one more glass door and 2 posts) - http://www.salamanderdesigns.com/syn/twins.jsp
But... At 44 inches width it will be about 4 inches skinnier than the 50phd7uy which the wife thinks would look silly for a $1400 piece. The triple twenty - http://www.salamanderdesigns.com/syn/synergy.jsp?modelbase=sl20 would be around $1300 after you add doors, sides and casters so I guess I'm going to be shopping for a replacement after I finnaly buy the PDP. Top replacements for me would be that EA (a bit lighter wood than the mahogany color), or something similiar to it or the Synergy triple at less than 1k.
If anyone wants to buy a cherry Synergy 30 with frosted glass front and steel grill sides in my area in about 45 days PM me. Was around $700 18 months ago if I remember correctly.
jaybrubin 01-29-05, 01:31 AM dude i made my own triple credenza...and its more substantial then the salamander...for what is $650 all said and done...with glass doors
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