Yes. I wrote that. It is in paragraph three, sentence two.

>Whether it is to affiliate with a media delivery service, like Comcast,<



Your so-called gift is equally available to all multichannel providers, including all cableco's & DBS, not just Comcast.

That message has absolutely nothing to do with my point, Irish. Maybe it's time for you to revisit reading comprehension?

And perhaps you should spend more time comprehending what people write rather than trying to counter them with ad hominem attacks. After all, we cannot properly critique what we don't understand. So, in your case, you shoot for the personal attack. What a waste of your effort.

Understand more. Critique less.



Do you read the site or just post. This was posted one page back;

FWIW,
DVR's and all converter and remote equipment are regulated by the FCC. They are allowed to charge the customer a rate that gets spit out after you fill in 5 pages of calculations on an FCC rate form; initial cost, cost to maintain and service, depreciation, etc.


Read more and post less.

GoIrish

Soooo....... what's the next national HD channel for Comcast?

Yes. I wrote that. It is in paragraph three, sentence two.

>Whether it is to affiliate with a media delivery service, like Comcast,<
Yes, but the majority of your comments were directed at Comcast.

Soooo....... what's the next national HD channel for Comcast?Folks don't know, so we get this squabbling instead. :p

NFL was unexpected and welcome (Yes I do get SnE)

I would say TBS.

Anybody else receiving 3-day-old email notifications from this thread?

Now the countdown parrot is gone off the hi-def high page and it just says "coming soon" in glorious black 8 pt courier font.

Now the countdown parrot is gone off the hi-def high page and it just says "coming soon" in glorious black 8 pt courier font.

Yeah what's up with that? The countdown was supposed to finish on the 11th right? Maybe they're gonna push it forward a bit?

Now the countdown parrot is gone off the hi-def high page and it just says "coming soon" in glorious black 8 pt courier font.

I just went to the site and the parrot is there with the countdown rolling. Just over 1 day and 1 hour left.

I just went to the site again and it is back to "coming soon".

I just went to the site again and it is back to "coming soon".

Are you going here?

http://hidefhigh.com/

Are you going here?

http://hidefhigh.com/

There seems to be something strange regarding how you access the site. If I click on the link, I get the "coming soon" message. But, if i copy / paste it into my browser or access it through Google, I see the parrot.

Comcast just added the NFL Network HD on channel 169 in Chicago.

There seems to be something strange regarding how you access the site. If I click on the link, I get the "coming soon" message. But, if i copy / paste it into my browser or access it through Google, I see the parrot.

I get "coming soon" all three ways.

Me too.

and me as well

I get "coming soon" all three ways.

I do too now...very strange.

I thought it may have had something to do with being in my browser's cache, but I ruled it out as the timer was still counting down and was at 0 Days 22 Hours the last time I looked.

Comcast just added the NFL Network HD on channel 169 in Chicago.
I just noticed but since I don't have the sports tier I don't get it. :(

NFL HD added here in MA as well.

NFL HD added tonight in Baltimore.

Wish this was Comcast talking instead of DirecTV:

"Today we have agreements in place with about 90 channels, and continuing to work on more so we are adding to that. We will launch with an HD package with over 70 channels around the end of the third quarter. Again, the difference there is some of the channels need a couple more months to get their HD stream online, and we do expect over the coming months, between the end of the third quarter and the end of the year, we’ll get to the 100 channels that we talked about. So we will launch with really a fabulous HD package, the 70-plus channels and then over a couple of months build to the 100 channels that really we think will define us in a unique way competitively in the marketplace."

http://media.seekingalpha.com/article/44085

Hi Def High.

That was spectacular...

:rolleyes:

Hi Def High.

That was spectacular...

:rolleyes:

A blank white page that says coming soon?

Wish this was Comcast talking instead of DirecTV:

"Today we have agreements in place with about 90 channels, and continuing to work on more so we are adding to that. We will launch with an HD package with over 70 channels around the end of the third quarter. Again, the difference there is some of the channels need a couple more months to get their HD stream online, and we do expect over the coming months, between the end of the third quarter and the end of the year, we’ll get to the 100 channels that we talked about. So we will launch with really a fabulous HD package, the 70-plus channels and then over a couple of months build to the 100 channels that really we think will define us in a unique way competitively in the marketplace."

http://media.seekingalpha.com/article/44085
Have faith.

Have faith.

...and patience, apparently.

Uh oh... the site is back.

Use this link

Hi-Def High (http://www.hidefhigh.com/index.swf)

(notice the clock)

:eek:

Uh oh... the site is back.

Use this link

Hi-Def High (http://www.hidefhigh.com/index.swf)

(notice the clock)

:eek:

Its counting up and is over a day late...

My god its just Comcastic!!!

It's counting down now. I just watched it go down from 34 minutes to 33 left now.

It's counting down now. I just watched it go down from 34 minutes to 33 left now.

What does that site have to do with Comcast -- and what exactly is it counting down for?

What is this?

What does that site have to do with Comcast -- and what exactly is it counting down for?

What is this?

It is a Comcast page - note the title of it when you just go to www.hidefhigh.com.

The clock is still going up for me - now at 1 day 2 hours 38 minutes 45 seconds.

It's going down for me, about 13 minutes. The picture quality of the parrot has also gone down from a few days back as well.

It is a Comcast page - note the title of it when you just go to www.hidefhigh.com.

The clock is still going up for me - now at 1 day 2 hours 38 minutes 45 seconds.

And... ? So what does it mean?

If only D* wasn't HD Lite! :(

Wish this was Comcast talking instead of DirecTV:

"Today we have agreements in place with about 90 channels, and continuing to work on more so we are adding to that. We will launch with an HD package with over 70 channels around the end of the third quarter. Again, the difference there is some of the channels need a couple more months to get their HD stream online, and we do expect over the coming months, between the end of the third quarter and the end of the year, we’ll get to the 100 channels that we talked about. So we will launch with really a fabulous HD package, the 70-plus channels and then over a couple of months build to the 100 channels that really we think will define us in a unique way competitively in the marketplace."

http://media.seekingalpha.com/article/44085

And... ? So what does it mean?



Ditto.

Why the hell is everyone so cryptic about this?

I watched the countdown go all the way to all zero, then it went to all 1s with the thing counting up!

Somebody explain this?

So, I let the clock go down to zero. It then changed to 1 day, 1 hour, 1 minute and started counting up. The bird was not as sharp looking as it was the other day. I think this is a play on DirecTV and it's commercials saying that we will have a ton of HD channels real soon......

Ditto.

Why the hell is everyone so cryptic about this?

Nobody knows, Comcast won't say what this is

Ditto.

Why the hell is everyone so cryptic about this?

Some of us are hoping that it is tied to some big HD announcement.

Maybe related to KenH's "have faith" comment.

Since the main www.highdefhigh.com is just saying "coming soon" right now hopefully things are just delayed a few days. This would be the second time that they've "reset" the clock.

NFL HD added tonight in Baltimore.

Are you guys getting this as part of the digital perferred tier or paying extra for the sports tier?

Are you guys getting this as part of the digital perferred tier or paying extra for the sports tier?

The sports tier.

And is it a full time channel????

No.

The sports tier.

Well Comcast lost its almost win-back-from-DTV now. My wife and I are Hugh NFL fans and are not willing to pay for the NFL channel. We get in in SD & HD now included with our regular tier.

Another Comcast mis-step! Verizon may soon be eating their lunch!!

NFL Network HD added in Lansing, MI on channel 181

I can tell you the reason NFL Network is on Sports Tier in two words..

SUNDAY TICKET!

Also because Comcast's Versus network didn't get the 8 game football package.

I just noticed but since I don't have the sports tier I don't get it. :(

I spoke with Comcast last week, i told them that i didn't get notice that NFL Network was removed from my lineup, after 10 minutes of back & forth, they gave me the Sports Tier free for 6 mo.

I can tell you the reason NFL Network is on Sports Tier in two words..

SUNDAY TICKET!

Also because Comcast's Versus network didn't get the 8 game football package.

Yes and yes, however, my cable bill did not go down when the NFL Network moved.

http://www.hidefhigh.com/index.swf

Still counting UP!

I keep expecting that bird to say something...

Or flip something.... :D

:D :D :D

Maybe something happened Thursday morning and we missed it.

Also because Comcast's Versus network didn't get the 8 game football package.

I say it was the Sunday Ticket deal. If D* had its way they would have ALL HD football exclusive to D*

NFL HD on Comcast Detroit ch 181. Falcons @ Jets HD replay at midnight ET.

I could careless about football replays on HD. I'd rather watch it live. Can anyone tell me what
TV channels have HD that is not carried yet on Comcast like History HD, Disney HD, etc? What
is available right now that we don't have?

I could careless about football replays on HD. I'd rather watch it live. Can anyone tell me what
TV channels have HD that is not carried yet on Comcast like History HD, Disney HD, etc? What
is available right now that we don't have?

Depends on your local market. Check the locals thread for better info. Also Disney HD doesn't exist yet and History HD I think launched this month or September.

GoIrish

From DSLReports:

Hi-Def High... "High" as in High School. It will be marketing: advertisements, information (pro-Comcast, of course), and tutorials on what HD is; how to hook it up and why Comcast is a better choice than D* or E*. A new slew of TV commercials will be coming this fall as well. It's in response to the bombardment we're about to see during the football games this fall from D* about it's new 100 HD channels since D* has always paid big bucks to be an NFL advertiser.

I could careless about football replays on HD. I'd rather watch it live. Can anyone tell me what
TV channels have HD that is not carried yet on Comcast like History HD, Disney HD, etc? What
is available right now that we don't have?

Are you referring to HDNET and HDNet Movies and the VooM set of channels? There's WealthHD as well. I'm sure there are many regional sports HD networks that Comcast doesn't carry yet. Evidently there will be about 50-70 that Comcast doesn't carry in about 4 months, if you can believe D*. Science and Animal Planet are two others.

TBS-HD will start Sep 1 and show MLB playoff games in HD. So I guess that is one we can hope for (I'm surprised we haven't heard anything from Comcast on it, I guess not this year, sad...)

I guess the strange thing is that USA Network isn't HD yet.

But how many can you watch, anyway? I have trouble picking channels to DVR now with only about 22 to choose from (hey, I started with HD in 2003 when Comcast in my area had 4, ABC, NBC,HBO,SHO and that was it) so things have gotten better fast.

I do wish ESPN would allow ESPNU to be on the sports package (I know, not HD, but in a few years, who knows?)

Rich N.

Are you referring to HDNET and HDNet Movies and the VooM set of channels? There's WealthHD as well. I'm sure there are many regional sports HD networks that Comcast doesn't carry yet. Evidently there will be about 50-70 that Comcast doesn't carry in about 4 months, if you can believe D*. Science and Animal Planet are two others.

TBS-HD will start Sep 1 and show MLB playoff games in HD. So I guess that is one we can hope for (I'm surprised we haven't heard anything from Comcast on it, I guess not this year, sad...)

I guess the strange thing is that USA Network isn't HD yet.

But how many can you watch, anyway? I have trouble picking channels to DVR now with only about 22 to choose from (hey, I started with HD in 2003 when Comcast in my area had 4, ABC, NBC,HBO,SHO and that was it) so things have gotten better fast.

I do wish ESPN would allow ESPNU to be on the sports package (I know, not HD, but in a few years, who knows?)

Rich N.

I was talking about how many HD channels are available all in all, not just local.
I want every major stuff like Science Channel, Animal Planet, VH1, USA, CNN, etc.
on HD.

Universal HD shows programming from Bravo, USA, & Sci-FI. TBS-HD needs to be added at launch. ESPNU, even thought it is SD, also needs to be added. I don't think we'll get the slew of HD channels that D* is slated to add until they are up & running & Comcast can do somemore work to free bandwidth. It would be a good time for them to rearrange their channel lineup here as well.

I could careless about football replays on HD. I'd rather watch it live. Can anyone tell me what
TV channels have HD that is not carried yet on Comcast like History HD, Disney HD, etc? What
is available right now that we don't have?http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11062325

Universal HD shows programming from Bravo, USA, & Sci-FI. Only a few, and often they aren't closed captioned.

From DSLReports:

It figures.

Originally Posted by Marcus Carr
If bandwidth is the issue as he has stated, and not price, maybe it will be one of the 32-35 HD channels we will have by this time next year.

32-35 HD channels in 1 year? keep dreaming!

So where are the 32-35 TOTAL HD Channels by 2007?

So when are we getting more HD channels, the year is more than half over.

More HD channel will probably be coming by years end. If you get a newspaper like The Star Ledger, you will see advanced notification at least 1 day prior to any new channel additions.

At least for my area we're going to get NGCHD and the bunch by the end of this year, with some unannounced channels to come in early 2008.

SD wise we're getting some new unannounced channels soon, as in within the next month or so.

This is all for Comcast of NJ II Union/Verona...

What channels comprise "the bunch"?


At least for my area we're going to get NGCHD and the bunch by the end of this year, with some unannounced channels to come in early 2008.

SD wise we're getting some new unannounced channels soon, as in within the next month or so.

This is all for Comcast of NJ II Union/Verona...

http://www.hidefhigh.com/index.swf

Still counting UP!


this remonds me of when someone (phoenix?) found the d* package hidden in the source code of the page.

What channels comprise "the bunch"?

I have to assume he is refering to Food HD, HGTV HD, A&E HD, NGC HD, and NFL HD. Those are the channels that Comcast has put out in some markets, but not all.

What a comcast tech told me was that networks with the available incoming (into the headend) and outgoing (to the nodes/nodes to the homes) bandwidth are getting the added services first.

What a comcast tech told me was that networks with the available incoming (into the headend) and outgoing (to the nodes/nodes to the homes) bandwidth are getting the added services first.

A Comcast engineer told me bandwidth here isn't a problem yet we still don't have Food-HD/HGTV-HD/NFL-HD here (S. Jersey). I don't expect them (at least the first 2) for months, just as with NG-HD/A&E-HD which we got several months after they started rolling them out. Why do they hate us so? What have we done?

Food HD and HGTV HD just went live in Atlanta today. That's the last of the aforementioned "bunch" that we did not have.

A Comcast engineer told me bandwidth here isn't a problem yet we still don't have Food-HD/HGTV-HD/NFL-HD here (S. Jersey). I don't expect them (at least the first 2) for months, just as with NG-HD/A&E-HD which we got several months after they started rolling them out. Why do they hate us so? What have we done?

They don't hate you. Trust me. :rolleyes:

Oh and at least you have National Geographic HD and A&E HD. Northern & Central NJ Comcast systems don't have either yet. Our last addition was WWOR HD (MY Network TV HD) which is pretty much a waste.

Oh and at least you have National Geographic HD and A&E HD. Northern & Central NJ Comcast systems don't have either yet. Our last addition was WWOR HD (MY Network TV HD) which is pretty much a waste.

sorry... :o

A Comcast engineer told me bandwidth here isn't a problem yet we still don't have Food-HD/HGTV-HD/NFL-HD here (S. Jersey). I don't expect them (at least the first 2) for months, just as with NG-HD/A&E-HD which we got several months after they started rolling them out. Why do they hate us so? What have we done?


Try living in thier home base, Philly.

We still dont't have any of the above.

I don't think you're being picked on maxman. Here in Western PA (Pittsburgh and surrounding) we got NGC and A&E HD well after they began appearing elsewhere, and now it's the same waiting phase for Food and HGTV.

Maxman, you're not the only one... we got NGC-HD a while back, but still no A&E, Food, HGTV or NFLNetwork in HD... Rumor is we may have them by November.

Is NFL HD the same as VS HD? I seem to recall them showing HD NFL content on VS HD during football season last year. Maybe they're just doing that in this market.

Tybee, you are probably mixing up something. VS/Golf HD was added to Comcast systems around January 2007. Before that, NHL HD games used to preempt INHD programming. It's very likely that your Comcast system was also preempting INHD programming to broadcast the NFL Net HD regular season games.

Tybee, you are probably mixing up something. VS/Golf HD was added to Comcast systems around January 2007. Before that, NHL HD games used to preempt INHD programming. It's very likely that your Comcast system was also preempting INHD programming to broadcast the NFL Net HD regular season games.

Yeah, I think that's what was happening.

I suspect they'll probably do that again this season, rather than adding NFL HD. Yesterday's addition of HGTV HD and Food HD probably ate up some bandwidth.

Yeah, I think that's what was happening.

I suspect they'll probably do that again this season, rather than adding NFL HD. Yesterday's addition of HGTV HD and Food HD probably ate up some bandwidth.

Nope, with the NFL Network moving to the Sports & Entertainment tier, it will no longer be on a shared channel.

They don't hate you. Trust me. :rolleyes:

Oh and at least you have National Geographic HD and A&E HD. Northern & Central NJ Comcast systems don't have either yet. Our last addition was WWOR HD (MY Network TV HD) which is pretty much a waste.

End of this year, we'll get them. Plus some unknown HD channels.

They're screwing around with something here (S. Jersey). Channels between 66 and 95 disappeared (happened briefly the other day also). Channel 72 has been moved to channel 66. Don't know what others are missing or have been moved. Anybody know what's up?

AT this point, if you have the latest additions, food and hgtv, I would put money on WTBS...

Ok maybe Discovery Channel HD and the related stuff. Look at the Dirty Jobs in HD thread, it's says HD in the guide for that program. A sign?

So how many HD channels does Comcast have now? I think they seem to think that OnDemand "channels" count.

Remember this article (http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcast35091406.htm), Burke said 32-35 by end of Q3 2007. Time is running out.

And here in Philly, they have plenty of room, eliminated 2 analogs a couple months ago, and still no new channels since MHD!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

So how many HD channels does Comcast have now? I think they seem to think that OnDemand "channels" count.

Remember this article (http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcast35091406.htm), Burke said 32-35 by end of Q3 2007. Time is running out.

And here in Philly, they have plenty of room, eliminated 2 analogs a couple months ago, and still no new channels since MHD!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

The number is in the mid twentys

The locals if available in HD - ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, The CW, MyNetworkTV, PBS, possibly independent stations as well. Potentially 8, usually 5 (not counting The CW, MNTV, or Indy's)

Cable channels - NFL Network, Food, HGTV, A&E, National Geographic, ESPN, ESPN2, TNT, Discovery HD Theatre, Mojo, Versus/Golf, UniversalHD, MusicHD. Potentially 13

Regional Sports Nets - Major markets have multiples, most have just one. Potentially 3 (NYC has MSG, FSN NY, SNY; Boston has NESN and FSN NE; LA has FSN W and FSN PT, etc.), usually one.

Premium Channels - HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, Starz!. 4 available and most markets have them.

Other channels - HD PPV, HD Special events. These are rare, but some markets have them.

I'm in a small market (Lansing, MI) and we have 23 HD channels, but a larger market has the potential for 27-29 HDs

Let's see what my lineup in Comcast of NJ II Union/Verona is:

inH2+ SNY, FSN, MSG HD (only during games)
ESPN
ESPN2
TNT
DHDT
Mojo
VS/Golf
UHD
MHD
NJ Overflow-only used when multiple sports in HD for NY
YES HD
HD Special Events
4 Premium Channels
Locals: ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, CW, MY9, PBS

So us, in the NY DMA, have 23 channels. No NFL HD, Food HD, etc.

I can confirm that CT also got NFL HD added to 214 on 8/2/07 as announced by HDTVJunkie247 on 8/1/07 in this thread.

I just had 261 NFLHD added to my guide, BUTT (sic) it is part of the paid Sports Tier. Can any area of the country proclaim this channel as a FREE HD channel, or are of you getting the same resistance as I?

I just had 261 NFLHD added to my guide, BUTT (sic) it is part of the paid Sports Tier. Can any area of the country proclaim this channel as a FREE HD channel, or are of you getting the same resistance as I?

Comcast moved the NFL Network to the S&E tier across the board. You must subscribe to get either the SD or HD version

The History Channel has shows flagged as HD for 9/1 in my guide.

The History Channel has shows flagged as HD for 9/1 in my guide.

But thats still on the SD channel. You'll need to see a different HD channel in yer guide to get HD from History. D* has the exclusive launch on September 1 and I read that E* will launch it on Sept 5th.

I would assume that the earliest Comcast could add it would be the 5th too.

First HD program is 9am and then it goes until 8pm for a movie that is not listed as hd. It looks like any History channel production is available in HD.

Comcast HDTV in the Detroit area, which I believe has all the national HD channels available:
181 NFL HD
197 Food HD
198 HGTV HD
199 National Geographic HD
200 A&E HD
201 FSN HD Detroit
202 ESPN HD
203 ESPN2 HD
204 TNT HD
205 Discovery HD
206 MOJO (MLB, NBA HD, NFL Network)
207 VSGLF Golf Channel HD / Versus HD (NHL, PGA)
208 Universal HD
209 MHD

210 HD On Demand
211 HD On Demand Movies
213 HD Premium Channels On Demand
214 HD Music On Demand

215 HBO HD
219 Cinemax HD
223 Showtime HD
227 Starz HD

231 ABC WXYZ-DT
232 NBC WDIV-DT
233 CBS WWJ-DT
234 FOX WJBK-DT
235 My Network TV WMYD-DT
236 The CW WKBD-DT
240 PBS WTVS-DT

17 national HD channels
8 local HD (7 OTA & 1 sports net)
25 total HD channels (not counting On Demand)

As noted, a market could have more local HD in the form of OTA or sports nets.

But thats still on the SD channel. You'll need to see a different HD channel in yer guide to get HD from History. D* has the exclusive launch on September 1 and I read that E* will launch it on Sept 5th.

I would assume that the earliest Comcast could add it would be the 5th too.

The point is this may be a clue that Comcast will add History HD soon, not necessarily on 9/1. The same thing happened with A&E on the SD channel before the HD channel was added. Also HD programming from The History Channel is available On Demand.

D* has the exclusive launch on September 1 and I read that E* will launch it on Sept 5th.

History HD launches on E* on 9/1.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=873023

The point is this may be a clue that Comcast will add History HD soon, not necessarily on 9/1. The same thing happened with A&E on the SD channel before the HD channel was added. Also HD programming from The History Channel is available On Demand.



History HD launches on E* on 9/1.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=873023

If you look at Discovery, TLC, Animal Planet, and the Science Channel; you will see HD in their channel guides. Comcast gets thier guide data from a 3rd party (TV Guide) so if its reported HD to TV Guide from the individual network, then it will appear as HD in the guide. NFL Network had HD flags for the longest time, but just recently did NFLHD get added and actual HD content be available to viewers.


As noted, a market could have more local HD in the form of OTA or sports nets.

Only thing that Detroit is missing is HD PPV and HD Special Events

Comcast HDTV in the Detroit area, which I believe has all the national HD channels available:
181 NFL HD
197 Food HD
198 HGTV HD
199 National Geographic HD
200 A&E HD
201 FSN HD Detroit
202 ESPN HD
203 ESPN2 HD
204 TNT HD
205 Discovery HD
206 MOJO (MLB, NBA HD, NFL Network)
207 VSGLF Golf Channel HD / Versus HD (NHL, PGA)
208 Universal HD
209 MHD

210 HD On Demand
211 HD On Demand Movies
213 HD Premium Channels On Demand
214 HD Music On Demand

215 HBO HD
219 Cinemax HD
223 Showtime HD
227 Starz HD
231 ABC WXYZ-DT
232 NBC WDIV-DT
233 CBS WWJ-DT
234 FOX WJBK-DT
235 My Network TV WMYD-DT
236 The CW WKBD-DT
240 PBS WTVS-DT

17 national HD channels
8 local HD
25 total HD channels (not counting On Demand)

As noted, a market could have more local HD in the form of OTA or sports nets.


Comcast Chicago has the following HD channels as well and they include:

169 NFL Network HD
173 ESPN HD
174 MOJO HD
179 HGTV HD
181 Food Network HD
184 WPWR-DT (My Network)
185 Showtime HD
186 HBO HD
187 WLS-DT (ABC HD)
188 WMAQ-DT (NBC HD)
189 WBBM-DT (CBS HD)
190 WFLD-DT (FOX HD)
191 WTTW-DT (PBS HD)
192 WGN-DT (CW HD)
195 Cinemax HD
196 Starz HD
199 Versus/Golf Channel HD
200 Comcast SportsNet HD
203 ESPN2 HD
204 TNT HD
205 Discovery HD Theater
206 National Geographic Channel HD
207 Universal HD
208 A&E HD
209 MHD

Like Detroit, a total of 25 HD channels.

...Comcast gets thier guide data from a 3rd party (TV Guide)...

Not what I'm told. I'm told they own the company that does the guide. Then again my SA guide is different from the Motorola guide. And I can't understand why if Comcast controls the guide why they can't show their own channel as 'MOJO' instead of still INHD...

Comcast (Reading, PA) HD lineup

200- Comcast Sportsnet Philadelphia HD
202- ESPNHD
203- ESPN2HD
204- TNT-HD
205- Discovery HD
206- Mojo HD
207- Versus/Golf Channel HD
208- Universal HD
215- HBO HD
219- Cinemax HD
223- Showtime HD
227- Starz HD
229- Music HD
231- WPVI HD (ABC)
232- WCAU HD (NBC)
233- KYW HD (CBS)
234 -WTXF HD (Fox)
235- WPHL HD (Mynetwork TV)
236- WPSG HD (The CW)
240- WHYY HD (PBS)

20 HD channels

B
oston HD Lineup 08-03-07

Box ch ch name Tier needed to get channel
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
802 WGBH-HD (PBS HD ch) Basic
804 WBZ-HD (CBS) Basic
805 WCVB-HD (ABC) Basic
807 WHDH-HD (NBC) Basic
809 WMUR-HD (ABC) Basic
821 National Geo Starter
825 WFXT-HD (Fox) Basic
828 MHD Starter AND Classic
831 possible home of TBS-HD
832 HGTVHD Starter
833 TNT Classic
837 AnE Starter
838 WSBK-DT Basic
839 Discovery Home Theatre Classic
846 Universal HD Classic
848 Verses /Golf HD Starter
849 ESPN Classic
850 ESPN2 Starter
851 NESN Starter
852 possible home of Comcast North-HD
853 NFL Network Sports and Entertainment
854 FoodHD Starter
856 WLVI-HD (CW) Basic
858 possible home of History channel HD
868 Cinemax Cinemax
870 HBO HBO
875 Starz Starz
877 Showtime Showtime
881 Mojo Classic

Not what I'm told. I'm told they own the company that does the guide. Then again my SA guide is different from the Motorola guide. And I can't understand why if Comcast controls the guide why they can't show their own channel as 'MOJO' instead of still INHD...

I was told by executive support that its 3rd party because the data for NBC was wrong on a consistent basis. They told me that all data came from a 3rd party and they would register a complaint with them.

B
oston HD Lineup 08-03-07

Box ch ch name Tier needed to get channel
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802 WGBH-HD (PBS HD ch) Basic
804 WBZ-HD (CBS) Basic
805 WCVB-HD (ABC) Basic
807 WHDH-HD (NBC) Basic
809 WMUR-HD (ABC) Basic
821 National Geo Starter
825 WFXT-HD (Fox) Basic
828 MHD Starter AND Classic
831 possible home of TBS-HD
832 HGTVHD Starter
833 TNT Classic
837 AnE Starter
838 WSBK-DT Basic
839 Discovery Home Theatre Classic
846 Universal HD Classic
848 Verses /Golf HD Starter
849 ESPN Classic
850 ESPN2 Starter
851 NESN Starter
852 possible home of Comcast North-HD
853 NFL Network Sports and Entertainment
854 FoodHD Starter
856 WLVI-HD (CW) Basic
858 possible home of History channel HD
868 Cinemax Cinemax
870 HBO HBO
875 Starz Starz
877 Showtime Showtime
881 Mojo Classic

What's with the "possible home" stuff? Have any of those been confirmed?

What's with the "possible home" stuff? Have any of those been confirmed?

No. but I have done this 4 or 5 times on the Boston thread. Most of the time it has been accurate and on the channel number except two times

(Food network HD I chose 867 they have it on 854,and of course a few H
channels following Mojo

No. but I have done this 4 or 5 times on the Boston thread. Most of the time it has been accurate and on the channel number except two times

(Food network HD I chose 867 they have it on 854,and of course a few H
channels following Mojo

So have History HD and TBS HD actually been announced for Comcast or not?

What's with the "possible home" stuff? Have any of those been confirmed?

chitchat figured out that putting an "8" in front of the SD channel number in the Boston lineup gets you the corresponding HD channel and is pretty proud of this discovery.

So have History HD and TBS HD actually been announced for Comcast or not?

No.

Although TBS-HD looks like a good bet if Comcast wants to keep any die-hard baseball fan if their team makes it to the playoffs. Like here if both the Mets and the Yanks make it, and Comcast doesn't add it, I can tell you I will switch to some provider that does show it.

In Tucson, AZ they just added an HDPPV channel. It's no live yet, but I welcome the possibility of HD new releases.

In Tucson, AZ they just added an HDPPV channel. It's no live yet, but I welcome the possibility of HD new releases.

Our HDPPV channel only shows UFC and boxing.

Our HDPPV channel only shows UFC and boxing.

The HDPPV in Delaware showed NHL Center Ice and NBA League Pass HD games last year

Also, I have read of areas getting a temporary HDPPV channel when events are upcoming. There is a UFC this coming weekend. Check and see if you still have the channel a week after that.

The HDPPV in Delaware showed NHL Center Ice and NBA League Pass HD games last year

Also, I have read of areas getting a temporary HDPPV channel when events are upcoming. There is a UFC this coming weekend. Check and see if you still have the channel a week after that.

We've had it on and off for years for UFC and/or boxing. There's more UFC in September so if it's available in HD I would expect it to show up on this channel.

Comcast in the Fresno, CA market has had History HD programming via OnDemand for a little over a month now. But no actual channel.

Guessing the actual channel could show up around/after 9/5 (when E* picks it up).

We've had it on and off for years for UFC and/or boxing. There's more UFC in September so if it's available in HD I would expect it to show up on this channel.


no HD Events channel in Boston. They had Ch 800 for ONE boxing match a year or so ago (Maybe 2) This was offered for the same price as the SD feed on 401.

I was scrolling the channels from my remote control & I have noticed channel 255 that reads "Big Ten Network Placeholder" & that the channel is reserved for the Big Ten Network for Comcast customers in the Chicago area. Has anyone else in Chicago noticed this?

I was scrolling the channels from my remote control & I have noticed channel 255 that reads "Big Ten Network Placeholder" & that the channel is reserved for the Big Ten Network for Comcast customers in the Chicago area. Has anyone else in Chicago noticed this?

It has been seen in parts of Michigan as well: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r18929906-IFC-and-BTB-just-appeared

It seems like Comcast is telling people who go to that channel to go to puttingfansfirst.com, a site that is pro-Comcast in the dispute over BTN (the website itself mentions it gets corporate support by Comcast).

EDIT: Running a WHOIS search yields nothing. The domain information shows they are using a "proxy company" to hide their information. They use "Domains by Proxy, Inc." to hide their information. It could be so no one finds out Comcast or someone from Comcast owns the site.

While I agree with Comcast that this channel should be on a digital tier, I remember their other tactics in recent years with regional sports networks. When MASN (Mid-Atlantic Sports Network) emerged as competition for Comcast SportsNet, Comcast refused to acknowlege the new channel and simply waited for it to fold so CSN could get the rights to the baseball games. They eventually were forced to make a deal with MASN as a condition of the Adelphia merger.
This time, Comcast sees carriage of the BTN as a reality, but only on their terms. I predict that Comcast will end up carrying the BTN on a basic tier in the Big Ten states, and on the sports tier everywhere else. I think that the Big Ten Network will end up being treated like a regional sports network just like FSN and Comcast SportsNet.

Also, DirecTV and the Big Ten Network have been acting all high and mighty because of their carriage agreement since they care SO much about sports fans. Neither of them want to talk about the fact the DTV is charging businesses $30 extra a month to show the BTN. I guess this makes it really easy for DTV to give the channel to residential customers at no extra charge. If Comcast carries the channel on basic cable as the BTN insists, there is no way for them to single out businesses to charge extra, so the cost will be passed on to everyone.

Also, DirecTV and the Big Ten Network have been acting all high and mighty because of their carriage agreement since they care SO much about sports fans. Neither of them want to talk about the fact the DTV is charging businesses $30 extra a month to show the BTN. I guess this makes it really easy for DTV to give the channel to residential customers at no extra charge. If Comcast carries the channel on basic cable as the BTN insists, there is no way for them to single out businesses to charge extra, so the cost will be passed on to everyone.

Business licenses for TV programming is always more expensive.

I guess my point here is that DirecTV will add the channel only for those businesses who want to pay for it, which is the same thing that they and the BTN say they are against, and will never let the cable companies do.

Also, DirecTV and the Big Ten Network have been acting all high and mighty because of their carriage agreement since they care SO much about sports fans. Neither of them want to talk about the fact the DTV is charging businesses $30 extra a month to show the BTN. I guess this makes it really easy for DTV to give the channel to residential customers at no extra charge. If Comcast carries the channel on basic cable as the BTN insists, there is no way for them to single out businesses to charge extra, so the cost will be passed on to everyone.

Where have they said this?

2 businesses I know of are actually getting better deals for the upcoming year then the last 2 with price drops and no increases.

Here in Savannah FoodHD and HGTV-HD just popped up recently. Tey look pretty good and FoodHD seems to have a good amount of programming in HD. THeir commercial selection sucks though, nothing but Bose and "Is Good to Know" ads...:(

I was scrolling the channels from my remote control & I have noticed channel 255 that reads "Big Ten Network Placeholder" & that the channel is reserved for the Big Ten Network for Comcast customers in the Chicago area. Has anyone else in Chicago noticed this?

Comcast in Olathe, KS had channel 255 as a "Big Ten Network Placeholder" for about a week. Today (08/27/07), the channel disappeared.

Comcast in Olathe, KS had channel 255 as a "Big Ten Network Placeholder" for about a week. Today (08/27/07), the channel disappeared.









That because Comcast & the Big Ten Network haven't reached an agreement & probably will not. So therefore, Direct TV might be the only option to watch the channel in high definition & so on which is why I might switch to satellite if Comcast doesn't add more HD channels after September 1st.

Where have they said this?

2 businesses I know of are actually getting better deals for the upcoming year then the last 2 with price drops and no increases.

I should have specified "bars & restaurants". The price list can be seen at http://www.directv.com/images/Directv%20For%20Business/Bars_And_Restaurants/Bars_and_Restaurants_Public_Viewing_Packages.pdf
Notice that the regional sports networks and the local channels can be included in a package, but the Big Ten Network is extra. Also I was mistaken when I said it was $30...it's $39.95 a month no matter how big or small your restaurant is.

Comcast in Olathe, KS had channel 255 as a "Big Ten Network Placeholder" for about a week. Today (08/27/07), the channel disappeared.

In Chicago, we still have the 255 placeholder (now BTNPL), but the white screen with fansfirst.com is gone

is anyone else getting disheartened with comcast? dish and directv are going to be blowing comcast away, as far as HD goes, and it doesnt seem like comcast is announcing anything to keep up. i've been a loyal customer for several years now, but it seems like they care more about their phone service than HD right now.

Comcast Maryland/DC

210 WJLA - HD* (ABC Wash) High-Definition TV
211 WRC - HD* (NBC Wash) High-Definition TV
212 WUSA - HD* (CBS Wash) High-Definition TV
213 WTTG - HD* (FOX Wash) High-Definition TV
214 WDCW - HD* (CW Wash) High-Definition TV
220 WETA - HD* (PBS Wash) High-Definition TV
223 A&E HD* News & Info HD ON
224 Nat Geo HD* News & Info HD ON
225 Discovery HD* Theatre
226 MOJO HD*
227 MHD* Music
228 HBO HD* High-Definition TV
229 HGTV HD Lifestyle
231 Food Network HD Lifestyle
233 Cinemax HD* High-Definition TV
238 Showtime HD* High-Definition TV
246 NFL Network HD Sports HD ON
248 Starz HD* High-Definition TV
249 TNT HD* High-Definition TV
250 Universal HD* High-Definition TV
251 Comcast SportsNet HD* High-Definition TV
252 ESPN-HD* High-Definition TV
253 ESPN 2- HD* Sports
300 HBO HD* High-Definition TV

is anyone else getting disheartened with comcast? dish and directv are going to be blowing comcast away, as far as HD goes, and it doesnt seem like comcast is announcing anything to keep up. i've been a loyal customer for several years now, but it seems like they care more about their phone service than HD right now.

Getting? GETTING??? I've been saying the exact same thing. Glad somebody else feels the same way.

Getting? GETTING??? I've been saying the exact same thing. Glad somebody else feels the same way.

:) i figured you'd be in this thread somewhere.

i will give comcast the benefit of the doubt, but directv is only a phone call away.

is there any truth to the thought that comcast may quickly outgrow their bandwidth capabilities, being limited to a coax line?

:)i will give comcast the benefit of the doubt, but directv is only a phone call away.

is there any truth to the thought that comcast may quickly outgrow their bandwidth capabilities, being limited to a coax line?

I won't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. IMO I'm seeing a huge moneymaking organization that has no respect for it's customers, treats service issues poorly or not at all, can't keep their own website up to date, won't add HD channels in a timely manner, won't address any questions about upcoming HD channels as well as when existing channels on their other systems will be added, have made absolutely no announcements of agreements to carry any more existing or announced channels, etc. They push their moneymaking phone service instead.

While other providers announce carry agreements (sometimes far) in advance, Comcast says nothing. I too am wondering if they're running into a major roadblock and dead end with HD and nothing technology-wise to advance their HD future, thus the pushing of OnDemand, at least for the time being. If and when they work out whatever their HD problem is, their premium customers will have left them for other providers. If Comcast is the future of television, the future isn't very bright at the moment.

With Comcast at times one moment I read a rumor here the next day it pops up.

I expect to see a baseball game ion channel 831 on Wed Oct 3rd.

At least in my area Comcast upgraded the 8Mbps internet package to 16Mpbs/2Mbps to compete with FIOS for no extra charge. They did this is all areas that compete with FIOS- ironic since my apt development won't be wired for FIOS. But the 16Mbps (Blasst!) package still costs $10 more per month.

is anyone else getting disheartened with comcast? dish and directv are going to be blowing comcast away, as far as HD goes, and it doesnt seem like comcast is announcing anything to keep up.So far, they're comparable. Getting "disheartened" about something that hasn't happened yet is pretty fatalistic. After it happens, and after Comcast doesn't do anything in response after a few months, THEN get "disheartened".

Comcast tends to announce new channels a few days before they go live, while the satellite systems seem to throw around promises long in advance of their being able to deliver. Don't be snowed.

IMO I'm seeing a huge moneymaking organization that has no respect for it's customers, treats service issues poorly or not at allYou're talking about Dish Network, right?

Had Dish HD for a while about 5 years ago. Got tired of Uncle Charlie having monthly "promise to add this soon" programs. Six months later and still waiting.

Would rather hear about my new channel several days before I get it. I'm a lucky one I guess or maybe my wish list is just shorter. I have no idea what D* is adding that is going to blow Comcast away. I have everthing that I want and basicly everthing that is available. I'm not in the market for more HD pay channels like Big 10 Football.

Almost forgot a E* tech support: Reboot that box!!! Yea, that's the ticket.

I won't give them the benefit of the doubt anymore. IMO I'm seeing a huge moneymaking organization that has no respect for it's customers, treats service issues poorly or not at all, can't keep their own website up to date, won't add HD channels in a timely manner, won't address any questions about upcoming HD channels as well as when existing channels on their other systems will be added, have made absolutely no announcements of agreements to carry any more existing or announced channels, etc. They push their moneymaking phone service instead.

While other providers announce carry agreements (sometimes far) in advance, Comcast says nothing. I too am wondering if they're running into a major roadblock and dead end with HD and nothing technology-wise to advance their HD future, thus the pushing of OnDemand, at least for the time being. If and when they work out whatever their HD problem is, their premium customers will have left them for other providers. If Comcast is the future of television, the future isn't very bright at the moment.





I definitely agree withyou 100% especially when it comes to adding HD channels. For instance, Animal Planet HD, Discovery Channel HD, Science Channel HD, & TLC HD have been added to Dish Network last week. I am giving Comcast until September 30th to add the new HD channels arriving in the fall or I am switching to satellite.

I definitely agree withyou 100% especially when it comes to adding HD channels. For instance, Animal Planet HD, Discovery Channel HD, Science Channel HD, & TLC HD have been added to Dish Network last week. I am giving Comcast until September 30th to add the new HD channels arriving in the fall or I am switching to satellite.

And most of those new channels on Dish are upconverts ala A&E-HD. If that turns you on, see ya......

I definitely agree withyou 100% especially when it comes to adding HD channels. For instance, Animal Planet HD, Discovery Channel HD, Science Channel HD, & TLC HD have been added to Dish Network last week. I am giving Comcast until September 30th to add the new HD channels arriving in the fall or I am switching to satellite.

I'm still waiting for the HD channels that they've already added to other markets like A&E, Food, HGTV, NFL.

If FIOS adds the new HD channels first, I may jump ship.

Almost forgot a E* tech support: Reboot that box!!! Yea, that's the ticket.

because comcast is known for such wonderful tech support?

I'm still waiting for the HD channels that they've already added to other markets like A&E, Food, HGTV, NFL.

If FIOS adds the new HD channels first, I may jump ship.

At least you have an alternative(FIOS), if you're in a smaller market you don't have any options, other than Satellite, which I'll probably be joining the HD ranks of pretty soon, the reason I'm switching is because of programming, sats announce it and it's going to be there for everyone, unlike Comcast(I'm sure the other cables are the same), the programming is dependent on where you reside, there seems to be no hurry to get anybody any stations, the cable companies do seem to add more in the areas that have FIOS or other land options, but if there is no competition, they don't seem to rate the rest of the customers with any urgency, we're pretty well taken for granted, I assume because they feel like they have a monopoly and they really don't have to be concerned with us.

because comcast is known for such wonderful tech support?

I guess I am in the better part of the country. If I call for online assistance and it does solve the problem (an udating spike), then I can expect a service call within a day and with that an immediate solution. No such event when I had E*. A service call was weeks away. But this is not about D* or E*, so I guess I'm off topic.

But hey, if everyone liked the same thing, there would be no competion or choices. Take your money where the product it makes you happy. That's what I did.

That because Comcast & the Big Ten Network haven't reached an agreement & probably will not. So therefore, Direct TV might be the only option to watch the channel in high definition & so on which is why I might switch to satellite if Comcast doesn't add more HD channels after September 1st.

That's OK. I don't care about the Big 10. :)

That's OK. I don't care about the Big 10. :)
Neither do I but I do enjoy watching any sports of interest in football or basketball in HD so the more, the better even if I have no interest in either team.

Neither do I but I do enjoy watching any sports of interest in football or basketball in HD so the more, the better even if I have no interest in either team.


Along the same line of thinking, more than likely, someday, a new station will come along that you do care about and you'll be at the mercy of Comcast as to when and/or if they decide to carry it.

Comcast Touts Big Ten Slate

Says 150 College Football Games on Slate ‘Without Big Ten Network’ Cost

By Kent Gibbons -- Multichannel News, 8/28/2007 3:12:00 PM

Comcast wants football fans in its markets to know it will air plenty of games even if it doesn’t add the new Big Ten Network, which launches Friday.

The nation’s largest cable operator -- with systems in Big Ten states Michigan, Illinois and Indiana-- said it posted on Comcast.com/sports a schedule of Big Ten contests slated to air on a variety of broadcast and cable networks this season. The games include Ohio State at Michigan, Michigan at Michigan State, Ohio State at Penn State, Purdue at Minnesota and Ohio State at Minnesota.

What networks will air those games and a total of about 150 college football contests from major conferences such as the SEC, Pac-10, Big 12, Big East, and ACC? They’re ABC, ESPN, ESPN 2, CBS, NBC, CSTV, Fox, Fox Sport Net and Comcast SportsNet, according to the operator’s release.

Comcast also is touting 100 National Football League contests, even as DirecTV is promoting its exclusive Sunday Ticket pay-per-view package of NFL games and Dish Network is touting its own football offerings, which don’t include Sunday Ticket or Big Ten Network action either.

Comcast also said in the release its “first priority is to protect our customers and to make the Big Ten Network available in the fairest way to all our customers. From the beginning, we have said we would like to carry the network and will make it available immediately as part of our Sports Entertainment Package. We simply can not allow Fox and the Big Ten to burden all of our customers - the vast majority of whom have no interest in Big Ten sports - with a $13 Big Ten tax.”

That $13 figure is roughly what Comcast would pay per subscriber in Big Ten markets, assuming a cost of $1.10 per customer per month in those core markets, a figure that’s been widely reported. Fox National Cable Sports Network president Bob Thompson said last week, though, that rate was never the figure quoted to Comcast.

Big Ten Network, co-owned and distributed by Fox Cable Networks, also wants broad carriage in core markets, while Comcast wants to add it to pay tier of sports services, as it has done with the NFL Network.

Thompson said last week Comcast probably won’t have a carriage deal with Big Ten Network at launch. Big Ten Network’s key distributors include DirecTV, AT&T and a reported 100 smaller systems, but it lacks deals with top cable operators (in core markets) Comcast, Time Warner Cable and Mediacom.

http://multichannel.com/article/CA6472434.html

because comcast is known for such wonderful tech support?

I recently had Comcast install 2 cablecards in a Vista Media Center and one of them was losing some channels (mostly the movie channels). I thought it was a bad cablecard as the other cablecard worked perfectly and sending hits didn't fix the problem So the Comcast truck pulls up and the tech starts checking the signals outside. Okay, I thought, that's good but that isn't where the problem is so I go back inside and wait. About a half-hour later, I get a call from the tech outside to go check to see if I still have the problem. I do and the problem has cleared. Ask him what the problem was and he said I was losing too much signal for the cablecards to work reliabily and that he ran new cables and re-did some terminations. I check and sure enough, signal strength has increased from -19dBmv to -12dBmv. Problem has been gone for nearly a week. Obviously someone at Comcast is doing their homework. While it would have been nice to have it work perfectly from day one, they did fix a problem whose cause isn't exactly obvious (why did one Cablecard work properly and the other doesn't) on an unfamilar piece of equipment (the Vista Media Center) and found the root cause. My only complaint is that I had an 8am to 10am appointment (which I would assume is the first one of the day) and the tech shows up at 9:50am but that issue isn't unique to Comcast (I've had other service providers do the same thing). I guess a cynic would say Comcast either got lucky or they just worked from a flowchart and happened to hit the right fix on the second visit, I'd like to think they researched the problem and performed the proper fix based on how deliberately this technician worked.

-- Jim

A couple of years ago I was having a problem with INHD and it took Comcast a YEAR to fix it. Someone in the local thread got me in touch with an exec and it was finally resolved. No tech problems since, thank goodness.

(Oh, and, uh, what's the next HD channel for Comcast?)

Good point Marcus, I was about to ask the same question to jmallory: What your experience with Comcast has to do with the title of this thread?

Re Comcast, at this time, I am in countdown mode. Comcast has until the fall to add Discovery HD channel. If not, I'll make the switch to E* - unfortunatelly, D* isn't an option for me, as my place doesn't have LOS and E* is the only satellite that has been installed as a MDU install.

I seem to recall that Brian Roberts (Comcast CEO) promised a certain Panasonic 3-tuner DVR-like cable box at the CES show in 2006. That cable tuner/DVR was supposed to be in our homes by now. And now when you talk to Comcast customer service about it, well, don't nobody know nothing about no box.

I also seem to recall that in June Engadget reported a Comcast exec promised 400 HD channels by the end of this year and 800 by the end of next. Between you and me, bicker, based on Comcast's past unfulfilled promises, I'm not holding my breath.

Gotta love cognitive dissonance.

If DirecTV had full HD, I'd be there by now. If anyone from D* is paying attention, you could make a fortune from Comcast's customers if you offered full HD.


So far, they're comparable. Getting "disheartened" about something that hasn't happened yet is pretty fatalistic. After it happens, and after Comcast doesn't do anything in response after a few months, THEN get "disheartened".

Comcast tends to announce new channels a few days before they go live, while the satellite systems seem to throw around promises long in advance of their being able to deliver. Don't be snowed.

I also seem to recall that in June Engadget reported a Comcast exec promised 400 HD channels by the end of this year and 800 by the end of next. Between you and me, bicker, based on Comcast's past unfulfilled promises, I'm not holding my breath.

Pretty sure he was using the D* method of counting all local channels separately as well as all the regional sports networks, PPV, On Demand, etc. In which case he's probably not far off.

I seem to recall that Brian Roberts (Comcast CEO) promised a certain Panasonic 3-tuner DVR-like cable box at the CES show in 2006. That cable tuner/DVR was supposed to be in our homes by now. And now when you talk to Comcast customer service about it, well, don't nobody know nothing about no box.

I also seem to recall that in June Engadget reported a Comcast exec promised 400 HD channels by the end of this year and 800 by the end of next. Between you and me, bicker, based on Comcast's past unfulfilled promises, I'm not holding my breath.

Gotta love cognitive dissonance.

If DirecTV had full HD, I'd be there by now. If anyone from D* is paying attention, you could make a fortune from Comcast's customers if you offered full HD.

My memory of both items was that Comcast did commit to buying some Panasonic DVR's based on Panasonic being able to deliver a working device at a certain pricepoint. This would have been a supplemental device to Moto, SA and Pace boxes already deployed. I expect separable security killed that idea, at least for now. Maybe it will get traction in the future.

The second reference you make was I believe related to the capacity that a switched digital platform could provide. Comcast has committed to trials of that architecture and there are places where builds are going on at this time.

When you put these examples in the total context of the respective announcements, it sounds different to me than what you described.

I might be wrong though.

GoIrish

Comcast: 800 HDTV Channels?

The war of words between cable and satellite escalates.

By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C. (June 12, 2007) -- DIRECTV says it will carry 100 High-Definition channels by year's end. But the nation's largest cable operator says you ain't seen nothing yet.

In the latest skirmish between cable and satellite over high-def, Comcast officials are telling industry groups that it will have 400 HDTV channel choices by year's end.

And it will have more than 800 by the end of 2008.

Before you call Comcast to sign up, the exact number of channels depends upon your definition of what a channel actually is.

The cable operator is saying that it will have 400 high-def choices this year, which will include everything from local stations to high-def networks such as Discovery HD Theater to HD Video on Demand services such as new video releases.

In other words, if the movie Casino Royale is available in high-def on Comcast On Demand, that would be a channel choice. If Discovery HD Theater offers a handful of Planet Earth documentaries in high-def on demand, that, too, would be a channel choice.

With Comcast now providing more than 100 hours of HD VOD -- and expected to reach 200 hours by year's end -- you could see how it could suddenly get to "400 channels."

While the number may seen shaky, Media Daily News reports that Comcast is boasting that it will have more HD "choices" than any other TV provider.

"We're winning on choice, we're winning on quality, and we're winning on value," Comcast CFO John Alchin recently told a group of investors in London.

Wall Street analyst Craig Moffett recently issued a report mocking Comcast for its 800 channel claim.

"Comcast recently announced a target of 800 HD ‘choices,’ clearly and meticulously counting every lame HD stream that a consumer could conceivably order up,” Moffett said, according to Multichannel News.

Moffett, however, also took DIRECTV to task for reportedly planning to include high-def regional sports channels and NFL Sunday Ticket games in its upcoming 100 channel lineup. The regional sports channels are not available nationally while the NFL games are only available on Sundays.

http://www.dishcheck.com/?id=2_WSS5_C_913897294_www.tvpredictions.com_{kw}&gclid=COXF1crbm44CFSQYZAodjyZ7YQ

Comcast to Develop TiVo Code for SA Boxes

http://multichannel.com/article/CA6473092.html

Comcast to Develop TiVo Code for SA Boxes


I think that may be a little misleading. The article isn't all that clear but it sounds to me and - it would make more sense - that Comcast is paying Tivo to develop the code.

Think we'll get any of the new ones listed here in the near future? (HD channels in "test" mode on D*):

9800 CSTV
9801 FSN Midwest
9802 FSN Bay Area
9803 FSN Houston
9804 Disney Channel
9805 Animal Planet
9806 FSN North
9807 FSN New England
9808 FX
9809 Toon Disney
9810 ESPN News
9811 FSN Northwest
9812 FSN New York
9813 CD USA "The 101"
9814 Cinemax HD
9815 National Georaphic
9816 FSN Pittsburgh
9817 MSG
9818 MTV
9819 HBO West
9820 NBA TV
9821 FSN Rocky Mountain
9822 SportsNet New York
9823 A&E
9824 Starz Edge
9825 NFL Network
9826 FSN South
9827 YES
9828 Starz West
9829 Starz East
9830 NHL
9831 FSN Southwest
9832 Science Channel
9833 History Channel
9834 Showtime West
9835 Outdoor
9836 FSN West
9827 SportsSouth
9838 Discovery
9839 Movie Channel
9840 Tennis Channel
9841 FSN Prime Ticket
9842 Speed
9843 Fuel
9844 HGTV
9845 Spike
9846 Sun Sports
9847 Starz Comedy
9848 Big Ten
9849 CNN
9850 Comcast SportsNet Chicago
9851 FSN Ohio
9852 Sho Too
9853 The Weather Channel
9854 TBS
9855 Cartoon Network
9856 FSN Cincinnati
9857 Starz Kids & Family
9858 Bravo
9859 Comedy Central
9860 Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic
9861 FSN Florida
9862 TLC
9863 CSN West
9864 Versus
9865 MASN/ SportsTime Ohio
9866 Altitude
9867 Cinemax West
9863 Sci-Fi
9869 MHD
9870 FSN Arizona
9871 Chiller/ SAC MNT
9872 ABC Family
9873 USA Network
9874 Nickelodeon East
9875 FSN Detroit
9876 NESN
9877 CNBC
9878 The Food Network
9879 VH1

Think we'll get any of the new ones listed here in the near future? (HD channels in "test" mode on D*):

Remember the song: "In The Year, 2525"...? I think that's also the year their "Hi-Def High" website goes live! :rolleyes:

According to Phil Swann from tvpredictions.com, Direct TV annouced that they will have between 20-40 new HD channels by September 16th. They also stated that a total of 70 HD channels will be added by the end of September, so I am wondering what is Comcast going to do since they aren't telling their customers when or what channels are being added to their lineup.

I think that may be a little misleading. The article isn't all that clear but it sounds to me and - it would make more sense - that Comcast is paying Tivo to develop the code.

I agree. The Tivo launch about to begin was for the Motorola line. This is a plus in my mind as I have the SA stuff and can't use Moto.

Hopefully it will happen faster than the first rollout which apparently is finally happening.

GoIrish

While other providers announce carry agreements (sometimes far) in advance, Comcast says nothing.

Isn't this what D* used to do?

Personally, I liked it better that way. If something was announced, I knew it would be happening soon. This business of showing your hand years in advance is getting ridiculous. It's like showing trailers for movies 2 years away. How does that help?

All it does is cause a bunch of people here to say "where are all those channels (x-provider) promised 2 years ago?" "Promises! Promises! I haven't seen anything from them (though the date announced hasn't yet passed)."

If the arguments over D*'s plans are any indication of how people react around here, it would be better for Comcast to keep quiet about their expansion plans - whether they have any or not.

I don't care how people react, I want to know.

I'm still waiting for the HD channels that they've already added to other markets like A&E, Food, HGTV, NFL.

If FIOS adds the new HD channels first, I may jump ship.
All these channels are alreay in HD on Fios. I just got the mailer and they are all listed. NFL for me, Food for the Wife. I'm totaly thinking of trying out Fios.

Getting? GETTING??? I've been saying the exact same thing. Glad somebody else feels the same way.
I'm p-ssed, I just called Comcast in Phila, and lady told me she has no date when NFL HD will be available. F Comcast, Fios here I come.

I'm p-ssed, I just called Comcast in Phila, and lady told me she has no date when NFL HD will be available. F Comcast, Fios here I come.

You'll NEVER get an answer about new channel availability from Comcast.

All these channels are alreay in HD on Fios. I just got the mailer and they are all listed. NFL for me, Food for the Wife. I'm totaly thinking of trying out Fios.
Verizon Fios does not have A&E-HD which was in the OP list. But there is reportedly not much HD on A&E-HD. If you have questions about Verizon Fios, check the Fios programming thread and the Fios installation and QIP 6416 sticky threads in the other HDTV forums.

I'm still waiting for the HD channels that they've already added to other markets like A&E, Food, HGTV, NFL.

If FIOS adds the new HD channels first, I may jump ship.


All these channels are already in HD on Fios. I just got the mailer and they are all listed. NFL for me, Food for the Wife. I'm totally thinking of trying out Fios.

There is a rumor that the 4 above + PBS-HD will be added in my area over the next 2 months - which is always close to last area to get new channels. This should start right after comcast moves 3 channels from analog to digital tier, next week, and begin bridging the gap between HD on Comcast and FiOS.

The new HD channels I was referring to are the 50+ that D* has planned for September. If FiOS adds those first, I will jump ship.

Oh, heaven help us from the semantics of cybernetics. But Comcast and D* are correct. In a technical, semantical sense, every program is a channel because it is information that is channeled through a transmitter and receiver to a destination.

Under cybernetic theory, Channel Capacity = Information + Noise.

But I bet Norbert Weiner (the theorist behind cybernetics), Claude Shannon and Warren Weaver (applied cybernetics to communication) must be hitting themselves in the head with cable boxes when they read this nonsense.

Then again Shannon defined information in this sense as the reduction of uncertainty. And that's certainly not the case with Comcast or D*.

And so, I think the next potential channel will be the next HD program they post to OnDemand. When you order the program and it is finally transmitted to your home, that is the next real channel, even though it comes over channel 1.

That said, Kat Sadler is CUUUUTE! Wish I could see her on the full screen instead of the video box in the upper righthand corner. :D


Comcast: 800 HDTV Channels?

The war of words between cable and satellite escalates.

By Phillip Swann

Washington, D.C. (June 12, 2007) -- DIRECTV says it will carry 100 High-Definition channels by year's end. But the nation's largest cable operator says you ain't seen nothing yet.

In the latest skirmish between cable and satellite over high-def, Comcast officials are telling industry groups that it will have 400 HDTV channel choices by year's end.

And it will have more than 800 by the end of 2008.

Before you call Comcast to sign up, the exact number of channels depends upon your definition of what a channel actually is.

The cable operator is saying that it will have 400 high-def choices this year, which will include everything from local stations to high-def networks such as Discovery HD Theater to HD Video on Demand services such as new video releases.

In other words, if the movie Casino Royale is available in high-def on Comcast On Demand, that would be a channel choice. If Discovery HD Theater offers a handful of Planet Earth documentaries in high-def on demand, that, too, would be a channel choice.

With Comcast now providing more than 100 hours of HD VOD -- and expected to reach 200 hours by year's end -- you could see how it could suddenly get to "400 channels."

While the number may seen shaky, Media Daily News reports that Comcast is boasting that it will have more HD "choices" than any other TV provider.

"We're winning on choice, we're winning on quality, and we're winning on value," Comcast CFO John Alchin recently told a group of investors in London.

Wall Street analyst Craig Moffett recently issued a report mocking Comcast for its 800 channel claim.

"Comcast recently announced a target of 800 HD ‘choices,’ clearly and meticulously counting every lame HD stream that a consumer could conceivably order up,” Moffett said, according to Multichannel News.

Moffett, however, also took DIRECTV to task for reportedly planning to include high-def regional sports channels and NFL Sunday Ticket games in its upcoming 100 channel lineup. The regional sports channels are not available nationally while the NFL games are only available on Sundays.

http://www.dishcheck.com/?id=2_WSS5_C_913897294_www.tvpredictions.com_{kw}&gclid=COXF1crbm44CFSQYZAodjyZ7YQ

...But I bet Norbert Weiner (the theorist behind cybernetics)...

Uh, wasn't that L. Ron Hubbard?

(:D)

I saw a commercial on Discovery HD Th for the four new channels. Call your cable or satellite provider.

Think we'll get any of the new ones listed here in the near future? (HD channels in "test" mode on D*):Great list, but one thing it really highlights for me is how little added value DirecTV is really providing for me. Of the massive list you posted, these are the only channels we even remotely care about:

9804 Disney Channel
9805 Animal Planet
9808 FX
9838 Discovery
9863 Sci-Fi
9872 ABC Family
9873 USA Network

So all Comcast needs to do is add five or six of these seven, and I wouldn't give DirecTV a second thought. Spread across their vast customer-base, I suspect there is a list of twenty or so channels that, if they add just those, they'd pretty-much put the whole DirecTV new satellite thing to bed.

By the way, there were a bunch (at least six) in that list that we already have.

I don't care how people react, I want to know.Yes, but it isn't always all about you. :D

All these channels are alreay in HD on Fios.They are also all already in HD on Comcast here in Burlington.

So all Comcast needs to do is add five or six of these seven, and I wouldn't give DirecTV a second thought.


Yes, but it isn't always all about you.:D

They are also all already in HD on Comcast here in Burlington.

Where? what channels?

This might be a stupid question,and it might have been answered here before,but I just found this thread.
The Comcast here in northern New Jersey hasn`t added an HD channel in almost a year.This is B S!Is there any word of any new HD channels being added soon in north NJ?I don`t know if the channels are the same everywhere.Why, in On Demand HD in the premium channels section there is Encore HD,but there is no Encore HD channel???I`m getting frustrated with Comcast,there`s never any new HD channels.I`m about to switch to Verizon Fios!:mad:

Spread across their vast customer-base, I suspect there is a list of twenty or so channels that, if they add just those, they'd pretty-much put the whole DirecTV new satellite thing to bed.You must be kidding.

Yes, but it isn't always all about you.:DAbsolutely true. :)

Where? what channels?
A&E - 837
Food - 854
HGTV - 832
NFL - 853

You must be kidding.Not at all.

Having the same Comcast system as you, I get just as frustrated. However, they are making "changes" to their MC Music channels on September 18th. Could this be to make amendments for new HD channels? I have no idea, but keep your eyes open.

Ironically, I have no interest in some of the expected channels. A&E? Practically no HD programming. Food Network? I'll watch it as much as I do VS (i.e. never). National Geographic hopefully will have some good programming. I might be intrigued if Sci-Fi is added (despite their lackluster programming). But I'm not expecting much from Comcast.


This might be a stupid question,and it might have been answered here before,but I just found this thread.
The Comcast here in northern New Jersey hasn`t added an HD channel in almost a year.This is B S!Is there any word of any new HD channels being added soon in north NJ?I don`t know if the channels are the same everywhere.Why, in On Demand HD in the premium channels section there is Encore HD,but there is no Encore HD channel???I`m getting frustrated with Comcast,there`s never any new HD channels.I`m about to switch to Verizon Fios!:mad:

Not at all.You should be kidding.

You should be kidding.I disagree.

I disagree.Yes, I knew you would.

It's quite telling you also disagree with Comcast, and pretty much all other major cable providers, because they are making a huge investment in Switched Digital Video to keep them bandwidth competitive, or better, with DirecTV.

Ad by Comcast in today's StarTribune...

NHL Network to be added on October 1st. The ad isn't specific, but I'm assuming SD. I would be willing bet they'll be live games in HD though - on Mojo or a HD special events channel.

The channel will be in the Sport Entertainment tier - $5.99 here in the Twin Cities.

Having the same Comcast system as you, I get just as frustrated. However, they are making "changes" to their MC Music channels on September 18th. Could this be to make amendments for new HD channels? I have no idea, but keep your eyes open.

Ironically, I have no interest in some of the expected channels. A&E? Practically no HD programming. Food Network? I'll watch it as much as I do VS (i.e. never). National Geographic hopefully will have some good programming. I might be intrigued if Sci-Fi is added (despite their lackluster programming). But I'm not expecting much from Comcast.

What changes are they making to MC in your area? They may make them in ours as well. I assumed because of the limited info on the screen,they can be compressed even more then the standard 12:1 for SD channels.

Ad by Comcast in today's StarTribune...

NHL Network to be added on October 1st. The ad isn't specific, but I'm assuming SD. I would be willing bet they'll be live games in HD though - on Mojo or a HD special events channel.

The channel will be in the Sport Entertainment tier - $5.99 here in the Twin Cities.

They probably won't be on MOJO if NHL Network is on the sports tier.

If they also throw in NBA TV HD I might consider signing up for the sports tier. I emailed MOJO about NBA TV games but haven't gotten a reply.

Ironically, I have no interest in some of the expected channels. A&E? Practically no HD programming. Food Network? I'll watch it as much as I do VS (i.e. never). National Geographic hopefully will have some good programming. I might be intrigued if Sci-Fi is added (despite their lackluster programming). But I'm not expecting much from Comcast.

National Geo does have some decent HD programming...
A&E is supposed to have Sopranos in HD, but I cant confirm since I don't have this one yet.
Food Network .. Giada De Laurentiis
http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/giada_delaurentiis/0,1974,FOOD_10968,00.html

Comcast still testing SDV in two cities?

Comcast Denver, Colo. (technology trial) C-COR, Motorola, Harmonic Motorola
Comcast Cherry Hill, N.J. (technology trial) Scientific Atlanta Scientific Atlanta

http://www.lightreading.com/blog.asp?blog_sectionid=419&doc_id=132254&site=cdn

Comcast still testing SDV in two cities?

Comcast Denver, Colo. (technology trial) C-COR, Motorola, Harmonic Motorola
Comcast Cherry Hill, N.J. (technology trial) Scientific Atlanta Scientific Atlanta

http://www.lightreading.com/blog.asp?blog_sectionid=419&doc_id=132254&site=cdn

Well, I'm on the Cherry Hill system. Any news would be appreciated.

They probably won't be on MOJO if NHL Network is on the sports tier.

I do remember NBA TV games in HD on INHD / MOJO over the last couple years. Anything could happen with the NHL Network since more live games would be a good oppotunity for Comcast to use MOJO as a commercial for the sports tier.

I do remember NBA TV games in HD on INHD / MOJO over the last couple years. Anything could happen with the NHL Network since more live games would be a good oppotunity for Comcast to use MOJO as a commercial for the sports tier.

Mojo is a joke. Bring back the old iNHDs.

Comcast still testing SDV in two cities?

Comcast Denver, Colo. (technology trial) C-COR, Motorola, Harmonic Motorola
Comcast Cherry Hill, N.J. (technology trial) Scientific Atlanta Scientific Atlanta

http://www.lightreading.com/blog.asp?blog_sectionid=419&doc_id=132254&site=cdn

Anyone have an idea on nationwide distribution of SDV?

How long has this been tested?

A&E is supposed to have Sopranos in HD, but I cant confirm since I don't have this one yet.
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Yes, but they will be censored. Plus, the show was already broadcast (commercial-free) in HD on HBO, so I probably will never tune-in for that. We do have A&E HD OnDemand, but the only programming they're showing is a Gene Simmons pseudo-reality show.

Really, what I'd like to see added are HD channels that have at least 50% HD programming.

Really, what I'd like to see added are HD channels that have at least 50% HD programming.

You might find enough to watch on DirecTV:

New HD channels to launch on DirecTV, most this month:

9800 CSTV
9801 FSN Midwest
9802 FSN Bay Area
9803 FSN Houston
9804 Disney Channel
9805 Animal Planet
9806 FSN North
9807 FSN New England
9808 FX
9809 Toon Disney
9810 ESPN News
9811 FSN Northwest
9812 FSN New York
9813 CD USA "The 101"
9814 Cinemax HD
9815 National Georaphic
9816 FSN Pittsburgh
9817 MSG
9818 MTV
9819 HBO West
9820 NBA TV
9821 FSN Rocky Mountain
9822 SportsNet New York
9823 A&E
9824 Starz Edge
9825 NFL Network
9826 FSN South
9827 YES
9828 Starz West
9829 Starz East
9830 NHL
9831 FSN Southwest
9832 Science Channel
9833 History Channel
9834 Showtime West
9835 Outdoor
9836 FSN West
9827 SportsSouth
9838 Discovery
9839 Movie Channel
9840 Tennis Channel
9841 FSN Prime Ticket
9842 Speed
9843 Fuel
9844 HGTV
9845 Spike
9846 Sun Sports
9847 Starz Comedy
9848 Big Ten
9849 CNN
9850 Comcast SportsNet Chicago
9851 FSN Ohio
9852 Sho Too
9853 The Weather Channel
9854 TBS
9855 Cartoon Network
9856 FSN Cincinnati
9857 Starz Kids & Family
9858 Bravo
9859 Comedy Central
9860 Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic
9861 FSN Florida
9862 TLC
9863 CSN West
9864 Versus
9865 MASN/ SportsTime Ohio
9866 Altitude
9867 Cinemax West
9863 Sci-Fi
9869 MHD
9870 FSN Arizona
9871 Chiller/ SAC MNT
9872 ABC Family
9873 USA Network
9874 Nickelodeon East
9875 FSN Detroit
9876 NESN
9877 CNBC
9878 The Food Network
9879 VH1

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TBS -HD startred 9/1/2007. Baseball Playoffs start 10/1/2007 on TBS. Comcast dont let Sox fans down......

TBS -HD startred 9/1/2007

Not here it didn't (S. Jersey).

Yes, but they will be censored. Plus, the show was already broadcast (commercial-free) in HD on HBO, so I probably will never tune-in for that.

Just go to HBO on demand and watch it anytime.

You might find enough to watch on DirecTV:
New HD channels to launch on DirecTV, most this month:


How many of these are actually new channels (vs. new to DirecTV), and how many of the new ones actually broadcast anything in HD, other than the regional sports channels? Admittedly, those regionals might mean a lot more to other people than they do to me - but is it clear that they will be available to all areas?

I didn't go through the entire list, but:
Disney Channel - not HD, planned for early 2008
Animal Planet - I found something on Wiki that said an HD version was already on Dish, but nothing obvious on the Animal Planet web site
Nat'l Geo - in HD on Comcast already
MTV - is this the same as MHD? If you don't have it, be prepared for mind-numbing reruns of the same concerts over and over.
TBS - appears to be HD on some Comcast systems (not mine, of course)
Bravo HD - became Universal HD, already on Comcast - is there a new Bravo HD?
CNN - not HD, maybe late 2007
USA - not HD, "tentatively planned for 4th quarter of 2007"
Versus - already on Comcast

Small sample, but either the channel is already on Comcast or there is no channel to be added yet, so I wonder what the definition of "most" is. Nice plug for DirecTV, though.

History HD is now live on E*. How long before Comcast gets it? It's been available On Demand for a while.

I'm sure that Comcast will react to the E* & D* additions that taking place this month. Considering that History-HD has been available "on demand" like you note, I can't imagine that this will take long to get on the air.

I guess the parrot has permanently flown the coop (or something to that effect).

www.hidefhigh.com

How many of these are actually new channels (vs. new to DirecTV), and how many of the new ones actually broadcast anything in HD, other than the regional sports channels? Admittedly, those regionals might mean a lot more to other people than they do to me - but is it clear that they will be available to all areas?

I didn't go through the entire list, but:
Disney Channel - not HD, planned for early 2008
Animal Planet - I found something on Wiki that said an HD version was already on Dish, but nothing obvious on the Animal Planet web site
Nat'l Geo - in HD on Comcast already
MTV - is this the same as MHD? If you don't have it, be prepared for mind-numbing reruns of the same concerts over and over.
TBS - appears to be HD on some Comcast systems (not mine, of course)
Bravo HD - became Universal HD, already on Comcast - is there a new Bravo HD?
CNN - not HD, maybe late 2007
USA - not HD, "tentatively planned for 4th quarter of 2007"
Versus - already on Comcast

Small sample, but either the channel is already on Comcast or there is no channel to be added yet, so I wonder what the definition of "most" is. Nice plug for DirecTV, though.

Couple of things: CNN-HD starts this month, somewhere within the next few weeks. They have some new documentary in HD, and I was watching AC 360 in Europe on CNN International and he said they were going HD this week or next. Also, TBS-HD seems to be only in the Atlanta area because it's Turner country there.

Anyone have an idea on nationwide distribution of SDV?

How long has this been tested?

SDV should be in the entire state of New Jersey by summer 2008.

SDV should be in the entire state of New Jersey by summer 2008.

Anybody know anything about it other than 'how' it works (meaning the 'technical' side)? In other words, is there going to be a delay when changing channels? Sounds like the same thing as 'OnDemand' where they send the channel or program to you when you 'ask' for it, and that takes about a minute just to start the program. In other words, what's SDV like in the real world?

Anybody know anything about it other than 'how' it works (meaning the 'technical' side)? In other words, is there going to be a delay when changing channels? Sounds like the same thing as 'OnDemand' where they send the channel or program to you when you 'ask' for it, and that takes about a minute just to start the program. In other words, what's SDV like in the real world?

Sorry can't help you there, anybody from the testing areas care to chime in?

And all, unfortunately, HD-lite.

If they were 1920 x 1080i or p, I'd order tomorrow.

You might find enough to watch on DirecTV:

New HD channels to launch on DirecTV, most this month:

In some cases, I think D* is using these channels as placeholders for future HD broadcasts.

Does anybody know if D* is upconverting the SD to 1080 in the meantime? If so, it should look pretty good until the real HD comes through.

The one channel I really want to see in HD is BBCAmerica. Some of the shows I've seen in HD through various Internet sources look brilliant. Doctor Who and the new program, Torchwood, are awesome in HD.





How many of these are actually new channels (vs. new to DirecTV), and how many of the new ones actually broadcast anything in HD, other than the regional sports channels? Admittedly, those regionals might mean a lot more to other people than they do to me - but is it clear that they will be available to all areas? (Truncated...)

And all, unfortunately, HD-lite.

There's no way of knowing that at the moment - are you psychic? A DirecTV engineer?

All of the 'new' channels will be MPEG-4. I'm interested in seeing what forum members have to say once they're up and running.

SDV should be in the entire state of New Jersey by summer 2008.

What`s SDV???:confused:

Sorry can't help you there, anybody from the testing areas care to chime in?Although I live in a suburb of Denver, I haven't heard about how they're testing it. If I see anything in local news, I'll pass it on.

What`s SDV???:confused:

SDV is Switched Digital Video.

I guess the parrot has permanently flown the coop (or something to that effect).

www.hidefhigh.com


Just curious if maybe this was to be the latest salvo in the "more HD than cable" war, and when Comcast won the injunction, determined it was no longer needed and pulled the plug.

Hello, I'm new here and new to this HD stuff. I just got a HD tv and just got comcast HD service today. I'm fairly disappointed at comcast because they offer very little amount of HD channels. The thing I'm wondering is if or when they plan to add more channels will I get them automatically or will I have to pay more? I already pay $20+ a month for the HD service so I was just wonder how this is all done. Thanks.

What`s SDV???:confused:


From what I understand it only has channels being accessed by a tv being transmitted through the cable lines. Where as today, all the channels are being transmitted all the time, regardless of whether or not a tv set is on and watching it.

Hello, I'm new here and new to this HD stuff. I just got a HD tv and just got comcast HD service today. I'm fairly disappointed at comcast because they offer very little amount of HD channels. The thing I'm wondering is if or when they plan to add more channels will I get them automatically or will I have to pay more? I already pay $20+ a month for the HD service so I was just wonder how this is all done. Thanks.

Hi - welcome! IF they add more HD channels (they certainly haven't announced any) you'll get them automatically at no extra charge, with the exception of their sports tier channels (like NFL-HD if they add it to your area). Of course your bill will increase every year like clockwork on Jan. 1 to cover any new channels. Mine's gone up about $15 in the last 2 years.

Calm down, Max. It's just friends shooting the breeze here on AVS.

You're right. I don't know it. But being a fan of probabilities and knowing that the Rômulo Pontual, the Executive Vice President and Chief Technology Officer of DirecTV, discussed the issue with Endgadget in an interview (http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/01/11/the-engadget-hd-interview-directvs-cto-re-hd-lite/) in January, I surmise it is still probably the case.

The next two bits of evidence are empirical. A cousin has D*, and the HD images don't look nearly as sharp. Of course, they have an LCD set, and I don't know what its native resolution is. It could be less than 1920 x 1080. And two months ago I called D* and asked if the resolution was less than 1920 x 1080. The salesperson wouldn't answer the question.

Trust me. If they had full HD and, especially, something like OnDemand, I'd be there tomorrow. Comcrash and its Motorola cable boxes deserve a mass exodus.





There's no way of knowing that at the moment - are you psychic? A DirecTV engineer?

All of the 'new' channels will be MPEG-4. I'm interested in seeing what forum members have to say once they're up and running.

Comcrash and its Motorola cable boxes deserve a mass exodus.

See if you can get one of the DCH3416s. I picked one up at my local office last week, much better SD, faster, hasn't locked up once, larger hard drive, much nicer ascetics, etc.

I'm gonna check back and see if they have any of the non DVR DCHs for my LCD in the bedroom

Trust me. If they had full HD and, especially, something like OnDemand, I'd be there tomorrow. Comcrash and its Motorola cable boxes deserve a mass exodus.

The channels I listed aren't live yet. They'll be MPEG-4, as opposed to the existing channels at MPEG-2 which will apparently remain MPEG-2 for the moment. I'm very interested in what's going on at DirecTV with these new channel additions and the quality of them as Comcast seems to be adding nothing in the foreseeable future, and I watch very little SD programming anymore. In fact, I make it a point not to watch a lot of programming that isn't in HD and I've let some of the networks know it. I welcome anything that advances HD more rapidly, 'cause I ain't gettin' any younger!

--- (edit) I'm told that HD locals and HD RSN's have been switched to MPEG-4 at this time. ---

Comcast is still handing out the same old boilerplate response to their customers inquiring about HD, including the following excuse which I believe is no longer accurate:

"-the relatively low number of subscribers (currently only a small
minority of customers have high definition compatible television sets)"

And all, unfortunately, HD-lite.

If they were 1920 x 1080i or p, I'd order tomorrow.

And how do you know something that nobody else does?

:rolleyes:

And all, unfortunately, HD-lite.
This statement is incorrect. It's not known what D* will do with the new HD channels. It will probably take some time, maybe the end of the year, before we really know how they decide to use their new bandwidth; HDLite or not.

Again, I'm going based on the interview with D*'s CTO and Endgadget from January. I'll admit that things move quickly in the world of electronics, so perhaps you're right. But logically since neither of us knows the facts, neither of us is correct, Ken.

That said, I'm rooting for D*. I hope they go full HD in MPEG-4. I will be the first to sing "Glory Hallelujah!" I will be the first to call their 800 number and order.

Regarding jefbal69's comment, thanks for the suggestion. I have a 3416. It worked great for the first month, and then started locking up. I've had to pull the plug twice in the last three weeks to re-boot.

There is also an output cable I like to use that suddenly doesn't work well with any Comcrash box: IEEE 1394. It works great with OnDemand programs, but the sound gets ahead of the picture with live and recorded media. And before anybody yells at me about the 1394 cable being unnecessary, I challenge you to watch an OnDemand HD (or SD for that matter) program using it. Not only is the picture clearer and sharper, but you get about 20% more of an image for SD. The other cable outputs cut off the edges of the image (have a look at MSNBC, for example, and see how most of the C is missing). The first time I looked at the SD images through my 1394 cable, I couldn't believe the difference.

My prediction is that, despite Comcast's statements to the contrary, there will be no actual additions to the HD channel lineup. Lacking bandwidth, they will have to go with Switched Digital to accomplish their target.


This statement is incorrect. It's not known what D* will do with the new HD channels. It will probably take some time, maybe the end of the year, before we really know how they decide to use their new bandwidth; HDLite or not.

My prediction is that, despite Comcast's statements to the contrary, there will be no actual additions to the HD channel lineup. Lacking bandwidth, they will have to go with Switched Digital to accomplish their target.

I've got 24 HD channels on Comcast in the SF Bay Area today and I know that they are turning 8 more on in the next month or two. That'll bring me up to 32. It's not 100, but it's about all I need, today.....

Again, I'm going based on the interview with D*'s CTO and Endgadget from January. I'll admit that things move quickly in the world of electronics, so perhaps you're right. But logically since neither of us knows the facts, neither of us is correct, Ken.
You're basing you assumptions on an interview where he was speaking for the company around the time when someone was attempting a class action lawsuit against them. What did you expect? "Oh, the quality looks like crap right now - but wait around some more and we'll make it worth your while..."?

It doesn't matter what you really think of your company's product. If you don't want to have to update your resume really soon, you don't speak negatively about it. To imply that the MPEG4 channels might be better would be the same thing as saying the MPEG2 channels weren't good enough. With today's employment contracts, the last thing you want is a soundbite that can come back to bite the company as a whole.

Comcast in Reading, PA added National Geographic HD and NFL Network HD today

I've got 24 HD channels on Comcast in the SF Bay Area today and I know that they are turning 8 more on in the next month or two. That'll bring me up to 32. It's not 100, but it's about all I need, today.....

Come on, how do you KNOW?

Come on, how do you KNOW?

Our regional Comcast VP-Marketing in the bay area does a pretty good job of keeping us up to date on what's happening and/or due to happen in our area.

I've got 24 HD channels on Comcast in the SF Bay Area today and I know that they are turning 8 more on in the next month or two. That'll bring me up to 32. It's not 100, but it's about all I need, today.....


Which 8 channels? I was told from our marketing rep for North Jersey that at least 4-5, more likely 8-9 channels will be lighted up by the end of the year. No specification on what channels though.

Comcast in Reading, PA added National Geographic HD and NFL Network HD today

NFL-HD added to Comcast -Richmond yesterday (9/6).

SDV should be in the entire state of New Jersey by summer 2008.


I'm in Patriot Media country- Comcast bought them -and was supposed to take over by the end of the summer but my bill last week still sat patriot and the website says nothing so looks like it's been delayed. But assuming comcast takes over ht enext couple weeks would my system be getting upgraded stuff like that by next summer also?

Edit- I assumed you worked for patriot but sounds like your just a custimer like myself...sorry

NFL-HD added to Comcast -Richmond yesterday (9/6).

I'm in Manassas should I expect to see NFL-HD here, what channel number is it?

BTN president Mark Silverman told the Lansing State Journal this week he's still hopeful for a Comcast deal. "If this is not on Comcast by Nov. 3 ... I've got to think things are already gonna be ... It definitely should be in place," he said. "I really, really hope so." Comcast Midwest spokesman Jerome Espy commented, "There is a number, I guess, that we could come to. The Big Ten Network cut off talks, actually. We're still willing to get back in talks for the customer. We feel the sports tier is the best place for it, but we're willing to talk." Silverman "expressed surprise" at Espy's comment because "Comcast has never given an indication that it would budge on placement." Stay tuned.

http://www.cable360.net/technology/news/25512.html

I'm in Patriot Media country- Comcast bought them -and was supposed to take over by the end of the summer but my bill last week still sat patriot and the website says nothing so looks like it's been delayed. But assuming comcast takes over ht enext couple weeks would my system be getting upgraded stuff like that by next summer also?

Edit- I assumed you worked for patriot but sounds like your just a custimer like myself...sorry

A buddy of mine had Patroit out in NJ and I was very impressed by the HD lineup, this was back in March, but wealthtv, both HDnets, were very nice to see. Two or three HD RSNs, all major local networks, and more.

Again, I'm going based on the interview with D*'s CTO and Endgadget from January. I'll admit that things move quickly in the world of electronics, so perhaps you're right. But logically since neither of us knows the facts, neither of us is correct, Ken.Try reading what was posted again.

You were the one who said you knew what was going to happen to the new MPEG4 D* channels (HDLite), I said we didn't know as yet. Now you say we don't know, which is correct.

I'm in Manassas should I expect to see NFL-HD here, what channel number is it?

Channel 246 here.

Edit- I assumed you worked for patriot but sounds like your just a custimer like myself...sorry

Correct I'm a paying customer just like your self. But I found this from a person who works at Comcast.

A buddy of mine had Patroit out in NJ and I was very impressed by the HD lineup, this was back in March, but wealthtv, both HDnets, were very nice to see. Two or three HD RSNs, all major local networks, and more.



not to wonder too far off topic- but YES they are/were great.

The system was a read headed step child of RCN- encompassing hte area around their HQ in Princeton NJ- but they completely let it go to crap- had like 39 analog channels and 1 way cable modems- the local pols all actively told the locals to get DISH or Directv- I've never seen so many dishes outside of foreign language areas of innner cities till I moved here. That was all till Simmons bought it a few years back and created Patriot. He rebuilt the system- have great people, good prices, a nice HD offering. They have like the highest triple play take rate or highest average billing in the US becasue of the rebuild (doesn't hurt that it's a well off area either but RCN didn't figure that out) and Simmons is getting paid handsomly by comcast - I think the highest per sub ever paid. It shows these cable idiots that if they invest they it can be worth their while.

But in the end- the Borg is buying my system up so I need to figure out what they are doing to see what my future brings.

But in the end- the Borg is buying my system up so I need to figure out what they are doing to see what my future brings.
:D:D

I like that, "the Borg"...lol...

Channel 246 here.

will check thanks

Didn't the choice to change to MPEG-4 have to do with bandwidth? Everything I've read says it saves up to 60% of bandwidth and network storage requirements.

And for the other magpies, if anybody has definitive information from D* that their MPEG-4 will be in glorious 1920 x 1080p, put up or shut up. It will lead me to make the call this weekend to switch.


You're basing you assumptions on an interview where he was speaking for the company around the time when someone was attempting a class action lawsuit against them. What did you expect? "Oh, the quality looks like crap right now - but wait around some more and we'll make it worth your while..."?

It doesn't matter what you really think of your company's product. If you don't want to have to update your resume really soon, you don't speak negatively about it. To imply that the MPEG4 channels might be better would be the same thing as saying the MPEG2 channels weren't good enough. With today's employment contracts, the last thing you want is a soundbite that can come back to bite the company as a whole.

Dish Network have added two HD channels this week-History Channel & the Big Ten Network-giving them a total of 40 national HD channels, and that's not including the local channels. I recently spoke to a Comcast service rep and she told me that the following HD channels will not be added by the end of the month-History Channel, Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, TBS, TLC, Big Ten Network, Science Channel, etc. This is why I am cancelling my service with Comcast.

Dish Network have added two HD channels this week-History Channel & the Big Ten Network-giving them a total of 40 national HD channels, and that's not including the local channels. I recently spoke to a Comcast service rep and she told me that the following HD channels will not be added by the end of the month-History Channel, Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, TBS, TLC, Big Ten Network, Science Channel, etc. This is why I am cancelling my service with Comcast.
To depend on a CSR for new HD channel info is nothing less than setting yourself up for disappointment.

Having said that, I have no knowledge at this time about new Comcast HD channels.

Didn't the choice to change to MPEG-4 have to do with bandwidth?This is correct.


And for the other magpies, if anybody has definitive information from D* that their MPEG-4 will be in glorious 1920 x 1080p, put up or shut up.Magpies? Feel free to take your own advice.

Its already been explained to you that until we actually see the channels, no one knows what D* will do with their new HD channels. Even when we see them, initial performance may not be indicative of long term plans.

The Info channel says that Comcast will be adding Food HD and HGTV HD on October 1st here in Memphis.

The Info channel says that Comcast will be adding Food HD and HGTV HD on October 1st here in Memphis.

Silly question but what channel number is the info channel?

North New Jersey people, big announcement:

NGCHD and NFLHD coming on Oct 9th.

NGCHD will be at 210
NFLHD at 218

HDPPV on 214/504 is going to be taken off air as well around this date.

Other channels moving around as well. Announcement in today's Star Ledger, main section, last page.

Oh yeah, Court TV is moving to digital, as well as AMC. New leased access channel at 190, so they could be making more room for HD channels as well.

North New Jersey people, big announcement:

NGCHD and NFLHD coming on Oct 9th.

NGCHD will be at 210
NFLHD at 218

HDPPV on 214/504 is going to be taken off air as well around this date.

Other channels moving around as well. Announcement in today's Star Ledger, main section, last page.

Oh yeah, Court TV is moving to digital, as well as AMC. New leased access channel at 190, so they could be making more room for HD channels as well.

Thanks, saw it in the middle of the first section. I guess we won't get TBS-HD in time for the playoffs.

Thanks, saw it in the middle of the first section. I guess we won't get TBS-HD in time for the playoffs.

I am leaning twords the same thing. However surprises have been known to happen (Witness ESPN2 and the World Cup)

Hope your right. Your words to Steve Burke's ears!

I'm excited for HistoryHD as a full time channel, and not just the dogfight on demand stuff. Anyone have any info? Wouldn't it make sense if they have HD ondemand stuff, that they should be able to add the channel or do you think direct tv signed some sort of first to market agreement?

Silly question but what channel number is the info channel?
Not such a silly question. I spent some time yesterday searching for the Info Channel. If I have it, it's hiding.
J

I am leaning twords the same thing. However surprises have been known to happen (Witness ESPN2 and the World Cup)

I hope you're right too. I need to have TBS-HD if the Yankees make the playoffs, which is looking better and better every day.