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Texadillo
10-07-07, 03:54 PM
The problem with some of this is that there are national decisions and local decisions, and they don't necessarily track. If you're with Comcast and you don't have Food Network HD, then any reconnaissance related to Comcast corporate is worthless to you, because your issue is strictly local. And local decisions are too "all over the place" for a single thread to really provide much insight. The local threads are best for that.

By contrast, the speculation about things like, "When will Comcast start rolling out USA-HD?" is a viable topic for a single thread like this. Not every subscriber will get it on that date, of course. However, once the corporate support for such a channel is clearly in place, there's not much really to discuss at the macro level.

Perfectly stated.

Snagglepuss
10-07-07, 03:55 PM
Why is there so much talk about what the satellite companies offer in a thread titled "What's the next HD channel for Comcast"? If I want to know what they offer I can read threads about their programming.
If there are members that would like to discuss the pros and cons of each service, I am sure there is a thread that is doing that very thing right now. Please discuss Comcast here. Thanks.

This is because of a linguistic fluke. We come to know things via negation, via negative comparisons. I am typing message this into my computer because the computer is not my desk, chair, or floor. These negative comparisons give us a basis for better understanding what Comcast is by coming to know what it is not.

I think many of us are also hoping that Comcast executives stop by and read about our discontent. We hope they pay attention and take our suggestions to heart so they can improve their service and make more money.

Texadillo
10-08-07, 07:35 AM
This is because of a linguistic fluke. We come to know things via negation, via negative comparisons. I am typing message this into my computer because the computer is not my desk, chair, or floor. These negative comparisons give us a basis for better understanding what Comcast is by coming to know what it is not.

I think many of us are also hoping that Comcast executives stop by and read about our discontent. We hope they pay attention and take our suggestions to heart so they can improve their service and make more money.

Perfectly stated nonsense.

This is my last response on this matter. I will just filter through the posts that are off topic and look for the ones related to the next HD channel coming to Comcast.

maxman
10-08-07, 08:59 AM
This is my last response on this matter. I will just filter through the posts that are off topic and look for the ones related to the next HD channel coming to Comcast.

That's what I'd do. :)

cubsrock
10-08-07, 10:54 AM
Any new rumors about Food Network HD? CNN HD? or USA HD? for the Miami area? Does anyone else have these channels?

Addicted2HD4Now
10-08-07, 11:29 AM
Any new rumors about Food Network HD? CNN HD? or USA HD? for the Miami area?

That's a very good question . . . for your local thread.

jmallory
10-08-07, 11:29 AM
If Comcast goes to Mpeg4 will a Sony 960 with a cable card be able to view the HD? (With no intervening box)

As MPEG4 decoding is not part of the DCR (Digital Cable Ready) standard.

Marcus Carr
10-08-07, 11:31 AM
I will just filter through the posts that are off topic and look for the ones related to the next HD channel coming to Comcast.

Good for you!

maxman
10-08-07, 12:22 PM
Any new rumors about Food Network HD? CNN HD? or USA HD? for the Miami area? Does anyone else have these channels?

No, 'cause this is the local NJ thread. :D

bicker1
10-08-07, 12:55 PM
That's a very good question . . . for your local thread.Except for USA HD. Has anyone heard anything recently about any Comcast system getting USA HD? The last date I read was November 6, and that was on some blog I don't really trust...

Ken H
10-08-07, 03:06 PM
Any new rumors about Food Network HD? CNN HD? or USA HD? for the Miami area? Does anyone else have these channels?


Currently Available Comcast HDTV:
CNN HD
TBS HD
NFL Network HD
Food Network HD
HGTV HD
National Geographic HD
A&E HD
Local Sports Net(s)
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
TNT HD
HD Theater Discovery
MOJO
VSGLF Golf Channel HD / Versus HD
Universal HD
MHD
HBO HD
Cinemax HD
Showtime HD
Starz HD
ABC HD
NBC HD
CBS HD
FOX HD
My Network TV HD
The CW HD
PBS Digital

Coming soon:
USA Network HD
The History Channel HD
Fox Business Channel HD

Please note that not all HD channels are available in all areas.

Addicted2HD4Now
10-08-07, 03:12 PM
No, 'cause this is the local NJ thread. :D

LOL!

Addicted2HD4Now
10-08-07, 03:16 PM
Except for USA HD. Has anyone heard anything recently about any Comcast system getting USA HD? The last date I read was November 6, and that was on some blog I don't really trust...

Sorry, I meant to edit that out of the quote as to what I was replying to. I hit the submit button too quickly.

Someone in my local area thread mentioned by the end of October for USA HD. I guess we'll see.

sansri88
10-08-07, 03:31 PM
Currently Available Comcast HDTV:
Coming soon:
Fox Business Channel HD


Who's getting FOX Biz in HD? We're only getting the SD version on 10/15, no sign of HD.

bicker1
10-08-07, 03:35 PM
Coming soon:
USA HD
History HD
CNN HD
TBS HD
Fox Business Channel HD

Please note that not all HD channels are available in all areas, and the Coming Soon channels may already be available in some areas.Hmmm... okay, but I think the distinction should be between those that are already here and those that are truly "coming soon" and not already here. As such, I think that CNN HD and TBS HD belong in a different category, perhaps the already here category, but if not, at least in their own "in-between" category.

blitzen102
10-08-07, 04:02 PM
Perhaps this thread's titile could be changed to

"What's the next national HD channel for Comcast?"

or something to that effect.

BlackwaterStout
10-08-07, 04:30 PM
I just got two new HD channels yesterday. TBS-HD and CNN-HD. Odd thing is that they were added as channels 197 and 198. All my other channels are in the 700's.

I currrently have only have:
TBS HD
FSN
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
TNT HD
Discovery HD Theater
MOJO
VSGLF Golf Channel HD / Versus HD
HBO HD
Cinemax HD
Showtime HD
Starz HD
ABC HD WTAE
NBC HD WPXI
CBS HD KDKA
FOX HD WPGH
My Network TV HD
PBS HD National
PBS-HD WQED Pittsburgh.
CNN HD

DrDon
10-08-07, 05:48 PM
Some rude and argumentative posts removed.

chitchatjf
10-08-07, 06:00 PM
That's pretty much what we have in Boston,but MYNet is not in HD because our local MYNet affiliate isn't in HD (I think the SD signal is still MONO!)

sansri88
10-08-07, 06:35 PM
I just got two new HD channels yesterday. TBS-HD and CNN-HD. Odd thing is that they were added as channels 197 and 198. All my other channels are in the 700's.


You probably are going to have a major lineup change soon, to align your area with many other places (like mine). Our HD channels are all in the 201-240 range.

cavalierlwt
10-08-07, 06:56 PM
Southern NH, Just got TBS-HD and CNN-HD. All my HD channels are in the 800s, so I guess there's no rhyme or reason to it.

Does CNN-HD ever go 16x9? Everytime I check in they are pillarboxed.

nywst
10-08-07, 07:53 PM
And since you'll change provider real soon, you will move on to your new favorite groups, E* and D* really s**k.

There will be lots of time to write, like every time it rains in your hometown and even in the upload hometown, and all the sky between you. Did I mention snow? Well, hey don't worry about it, Cartoon HD makes it all worth while. :D

BTW, don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out.

Now, lets get back on the topic of this thread, which is not bashing Comcast.

haha, I heard this is free country, and people has the right to speak out.
If you cannot tolerate different opinion, get lost, would you?
:D

chrisgeleven
10-08-07, 09:33 PM
Does CNN-HD ever go 16x9? Everytime I check in they are pillarboxed.

The following CNN shows are in HD: American Morning, Lou Dobbs Tonight, and Anderson Cooper 360.

donn35
10-08-07, 10:24 PM
Still no sign of Comcast adding the following HD channels-Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, Science Channel, TLC, the Weather Channel, Smithsonian Channel, Big Ten Network, Sci-Fi Channel, the Movie Channel, etc.
Also, for those of you that lives in the Chicago area, on channel 255 its says that this channel is being reserved for the Big Ten Network. Didn't Comcast had previously shown this two months before the Big Ten Network was officially launched?

bob2274
10-08-07, 10:56 PM
I'd expect seeing Comcast pick up every other channel you mentioned before you see the Big Ten Network. Comcast wants it on the sports tier, just like Fox College Sports, CSTV, NFL, NBA, and NHL. Big Ten has taken the hard line stance that it be on basic cable within their territory, just like a regional sports network. The big cable companies are trying to prevent the trend of every collegeiate conference from forming their own "regional" network, demanding basic carriage, and getting whatever price they want.

sansri88
10-08-07, 10:57 PM
BTN is a no go, which is absolutely fine with me. I don't want my bill going up for a channel that should rightfully be in a sports tier (which is will be on Dish Network come 2008).

Ken H
10-08-07, 11:27 PM
Hmmm... okay, but I think the distinction should be between those that are already here and those that are truly "coming soon" and not already here.
Just an oversight on my part, now fixed.

Marcus Carr
10-09-07, 12:23 AM
NHL Network HD is coming:

...24-hour HD channel, which the league expects to launch later this month...Comcast said it would make the HD channel available to its subscribers once it's up and running...

http://nab.broadcastnewsroom.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=192283

blitzen102
10-09-07, 09:49 AM
NHL Network HD is coming:
...24-hour HD channel, which the league expects to launch later this month...Comcast said it would make the HD channel available to its subscribers once it's up and running...
http://nab.broadcastnewsroom.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=192283

Thwe big question is "when will it be up and running?". Comcast had an ad in the locals papers here saying it would be added October 1st.

willwhdtv
10-09-07, 02:55 PM
Swanni just announced on its website that New Hampshire will be getting USA in HD this month.

Marcus Carr
10-09-07, 03:13 PM
Thwe big question is "when will it be up and running?". Comcast had an ad in the locals papers here saying it would be added October 1st.

At least one Comcast market is confirmed, with this legal notice announcing the channel's "on or after Oct. 16" launch to Comcast's Pittsburgh-area customers. It also looks like the network is coming to Comcast's Livingston, NJ, customers.

The network's schedule includes 50 regular season games, subject to local blackout restrictions in the U.S., plus its signature series NHL on the Fly and other complementary programming to keep hockey fans sated on a 24/7 basis.

"All live NHL games will be televised in High Definition on the full time HD feed," says NHL Network spokesperson Andrea Goldstein.

"We expect to be able to launch NHL Network over the coming weeks on our sports tier," a Comcast spokesperson commented. "We also expect to carry the HD channel as well."

http://www.cable360.net/programming/networks/25974.html

sansri88
10-09-07, 03:18 PM
Livingston, NJ? What system are they on? Comcast NW Jersey? Or Comcast North Jersey? If they're on Comcast North Jersey that means me too!

maverick215
10-09-07, 03:59 PM
I just got two new HD channels yesterday. TBS-HD and CNN-HD. Odd thing is that they were added as channels 197 and 198. All my other channels are in the 700's.

I currrently have only have:
TBS HD
FSN
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
TNT HD
Discovery HD Theater
MOJO
VSGLF Golf Channel HD / Versus HD
HBO HD
Cinemax HD
Showtime HD
Starz HD
ABC HD WTAE
NBC HD WPXI
CBS HD KDKA
FOX HD WPGH
My Network TV HD
PBS HD National
PBS-HD WQED Pittsburgh.
CNN HD

cnn HD..... in wv? what a waste ;)

I didn't think to look down there (had been checking, but was busy yesterday anyway)... My guess would be they will either be moving these to permanent locations, or moving all the HD's arround; or they're just messing with us :)

I wish they'd just give us all the pitts HD channels in Marion co... I have to deal with the crappy feed (yes it is crappy analog, not just regular analog... at times unwatchable...) from WVFX; wish I knew what rule they were using to prevent delivery of WPGH
no MyHD either
the funny thing is, both WPGH and MyHD are available on clearQAM

BTW have you heard anything about when OnDemand will be available... Seems if they are able to add HD channels at will that it isn't an issue of bandwidth. Though I suppose we still don't have 4 other channels that are widely available, National Geo, A&E, HGTV and Food Network.

Hopefully the new channels will keep coming!

kantonburg
10-09-07, 04:46 PM
Is there a way to find out if my local Comcast affiliate will carry particular HD channels? If I call or visit the office they're clueless, which I'm sure is to be expected. I really wanted TBSHD before the ALDS and NLDS, but nothing... :(

blitzen102
10-09-07, 04:46 PM
cnn HD..... in wv? what a waste ;)


Where's the Appalachian Hospital HD channel?
;)

blitzen102
10-09-07, 04:48 PM
Is there a way to find out if my local Comcast affiliate will carry particular HD channels?:(

No, not really.

Watch your local newpaper (in some cities Comcast is required to publish an ad announcing the changes before anything happens), or the messages on your STB, or keeping checking here.

rcodey
10-09-07, 04:51 PM
Livingston is part of the North Jersey,Union system.

kantonburg
10-09-07, 05:05 PM
No, not really.

Watch your local newpaper (in some cities Comcast is required to publish an ad announcing the changes before anything happens), or the messages on your STB, or keeping checking here.

Speaking of messages. I've had my 8300HD for about 2.5 years now and I've never gotten a flashing message on the box. Is that what you're talking about?

sansri88
10-09-07, 05:24 PM
Livingston is part of the North Jersey,Union system.

Oh snap, then where was the advert in the Star Ledger? I'm also in the North Jersey Union system (Woodbridge Twp.)

ghudson666
10-09-07, 06:45 PM
Is there a way to find out if my local Comcast affiliate will carry particular HD channels? If I call or visit the office they're clueless, which I'm sure is to be expected. I really wanted TBSHD before the ALDS and NLDS, but nothing... :(

The Comcast TV Planner (http://tvplanner.comcast.net/) will let you see what channesl your local Comcast area has. It takes a few weeks for the new HD channels to show up in the local planner.

ghudson666
10-09-07, 06:59 PM
Swanni just announced on its website that New Hampshire will be getting USA in HD this month.

Cool. Interesting to wait and see if the Comcast areas get USA-HD in a similar order that we got TBS-HD.

To create room for the new HD channels, Comcast has told New Hampshire subscribers that it's moving several channels, including the TV Guide Channel, from the analog tier to the digital-only lineup.

Comcast viewers will need to subscribe to the cable operator's digital package -- and get a digital set-top -- to continue to watch those channels.
Comcast is playing tough by removing the TV Guide Channel from the analog tier.

sansri88
10-09-07, 07:08 PM
Comcast is playing tough by removing the TV Guide Channel from the analog tier.

Our area is weird. We have TV Guide channel on both digital and analog-channel 18 and channel 100.

BlackwaterStout
10-09-07, 07:09 PM
cnn HD..... in wv? what a waste ;)

I didn't think to look down there (had been checking, but was busy yesterday anyway)... My guess would be they will either be moving these to permanent locations, or moving all the HD's arround; or they're just messing with us :)

I wish they'd just give us all the pitts HD channels in Marion co... I have to deal with the crappy feed (yes it is crappy analog, not just regular analog... at times unwatchable...) from WVFX; wish I knew what rule they were using to prevent delivery of WPGH
no MyHD either
the funny thing is, both WPGH and MyHD are available on clearQAM

BTW have you heard anything about when OnDemand will be available... Seems if they are able to add HD channels at will that it isn't an issue of bandwidth. Though I suppose we still don't have 4 other channels that are widely available, National Geo, A&E, HGTV and Food Network.

Hopefully the new channels will keep coming!

When I stopped by the morgantown office a few weeks ago they told me two things. One was that we would be getting two new HD channels in october (which came true) and the other was that we'd have OnDemand by years end. We'll see if that one pans out.

sansri88
10-09-07, 07:10 PM
Oh yeah, forgot to add that the Union NJ system will be getting NGCHD and NFLHD sometime between 1am and 5am, Comcast's maintenance time. Was told this by a source at Comcast NJ.

chitchatjf
10-09-07, 07:21 PM
Cool. Interesting to wait and see if the Comcast areas get USA-HD in a similar order that we got TBS-HD.


Comcast is playing tough by removing the TV Guide Channel from the analog tier.

Boston first for USA-HD :)

AS for the TV Guide network we have not had that at all since 2000.

HDTV-NUT
10-09-07, 07:58 PM
Oh yeah, forgot to add that the Union NJ system will be getting NGCHD and NFLHD sometime between 1am and 5am, Comcast's maintenance time. Was told this by a source at Comcast NJ.

cool. looking forward to NGCHD. not going to pay for NFLHD though..

any other channels coming this month? food hd still coming before christmas? thanks

maxman
10-09-07, 08:14 PM
Speaking of messages. I've had my 8300HD for about 2.5 years now and I've never gotten a flashing message on the box. Is that what you're talking about?

The SA 8300HD doesn't have messaging capability. The Motorola box does.

Snagglepuss
10-09-07, 08:18 PM
Perfectly stated nonsense.

This is my last response on this matter. I will just filter through the posts that are off topic and look for the ones related to the next HD channel coming to Comcast.

My only response? I don't care!

Ken H
10-09-07, 08:39 PM
Keep on topic.

JayMan007
10-09-07, 08:53 PM
Boston first for USA-HD :)


Does that mean that Boston already has USA-HD? or they will be first to get it?

sansri88
10-09-07, 09:06 PM
any other channels coming this month? food hd still coming before christmas? thanks

Don't quote me on this, but expect more HD channels maybe in November, and if not then almost definitely in December. By Janurary, our area *should* be close to what the national lineup is (eg HGTV, Food, CNN, etc).

Texadillo
10-09-07, 09:17 PM
Keep on topic.

Amen!

chitchatjf
10-09-07, 11:16 PM
Does that mean that Boston already has USA-HD? or they will be first to get it?

I'm hoping we're the first to get ti,even though i myself do not watch it.

rcodey
10-10-07, 01:55 AM
Comcast North Jersey. 210-NGCHD and 218-NFLHD are active.

sansri88
10-10-07, 06:18 AM
Comcast North Jersey. 210-NGCHD and 218-NFLHD are active.

Man dude, why were you up so late? Were you just waiting for those channels? I checked around 6:00am, and they're active for my area as well. Bring on some more HD Comcast!! We have more room now that the 3 analogs moved to digital only!

bicker1
10-10-07, 08:28 AM
Does that mean that Boston already has USA-HD? or they will be first to get it?I took the comment to mean the latter, since we didn't have it as of yesterday. I'm not sure if the comment was based on inside information or wishful thinking, though. :)

Don S
10-10-07, 08:45 AM
Comcast North Jersey. 210-NGCHD and 218-NFLHD are active.

They are NOT active for Comcast Ocean NJ today as expected .. :(

Addicted2HD4Now
10-10-07, 09:52 AM
Man dude, why were you up so late? Were you just waiting for those channels? I checked around 6:00am, and they're active for my area as well. Bring on some more HD Comcast!! We have more room now that the 3 analogs moved to digital only!

Would a moderator create a NJ Comcast thread in the Local HDTV Info and Reception area where all the NJ chit chat can take place? The above is a perfect example of the type of messages that belong there and not in this thread.

jefbal99
10-10-07, 10:05 AM
Would a moderator create a NJ Comcast thread in the Local HDTV Info and Reception area where all the NJ chit chat can take place? The above is a perfect example of the type of messages that belong there and not in this thread.

There already is one http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=524966

its the NYC DMA Comcast thread

HDTV-NUT
10-10-07, 10:42 AM
Man dude, why were you up so late? Were you just waiting for those channels? I checked around 6:00am, and they're active for my area as well. Bring on some more HD Comcast!! We have more room now that the 3 analogs moved to digital only!

we got nothing here. :mad: Middlesex county..

donn35
10-10-07, 11:08 AM
Man, Direct tv & Dish Network are really dishing out the HD channels coming out. Direct tv just added MGM HD & CNBC HD, so what is going on Comcast & other cable providers because the satellite companies appears to be winning. Still don't have Big Ten, Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, Science Channel, & TLC.

maxman
10-10-07, 11:13 AM
There already is one http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=524966

its the NYC DMA Comcast thread

I'm in South Jersey which has nothing to do with NYC or North Jersey thank you very much. :)

Addicted2HD4Now
10-10-07, 11:20 AM
I'm in South Jersey which has nothing to do with NYC or North Jersey thank you very much. :)

I noticed that there wasn't really anything that covered your systems so that's why I requested it.

FWIW, I'm not trying to be an a$$ about NJ discussions in this thread it's just that alot of the system-specific stuff should be discussed in a local thread. I'd suggest starting one for your area since it seems to be lacking.

hdtvjunkie247
10-10-07, 11:53 AM
They are NOT active for Comcast Ocean NJ today as expected .. :(

National Geographic HD and NFL Network HD are coming on 10/18. Got this info from a Comcast engineer.

Amnesia
10-10-07, 12:10 PM
I took the comment to mean the latter, since we didn't have it as of yesterday. I'm not sure if the comment was based on inside information or wishful thinking, though. :)We're supposed to get USA-HD this month (http://www.boston.com/business/globe/articles/2007/09/26/high_definition_tbs_feed_should_please_red_sox_fans/)...

bicker1
10-10-07, 12:12 PM
I've heard that too, or by November 6 at the latest. Time will tell.

Don S
10-10-07, 01:18 PM
National Geographic HD and NFL Network HD are coming on 10/18. Got this info from a Comcast engineer.

Thanks. Just those 2 then? Any info on dates for other new channels? (CNN, HGTV, etc)

hdtvjunkie247
10-10-07, 01:44 PM
Just those two for now.

DVDO+WESTY=1080p
10-10-07, 01:59 PM
Manassas VA gets 223 A&E HD, 246 NFL Network HD and 250 Universal HD 10/29. off HD but Fox Business 106 and NHL Network 276 also 10/29 no HD for those that I know.

That said new line up is from letter in mail

210 ABC HD
211 NBC HD
212 CBS HD
213 FOX HD
214 CW HD
215 MY Network HD
220 PBS HD
223 A&E HD
224 Nat Geo HD
225 Disc HD Theater
226 Mojo
227 MHD
228 HBO HD
230 HD On Demand
232 TBS HD
233 Cinemax HD
238 Showtime HD
246 NFL Network HD
248 Starz HD
249 TNT HD
250 Universal HD
251 Comcast Sports Net Mid Atlantic HD
252 ESPN HD
253 ESPN 2 HD
254 Versus/Golf Channel HD

I went from 10 HD in August of 07 to now 25! I'm happy

Missing 229 Food HD
Missing 231 HGTV HD
Missing ??? CNN HD

still 2 months of 07 left.... who knows

willwhdtv
10-10-07, 02:03 PM
USA HD will be available shortly also!

Jose Herrera
10-10-07, 02:10 PM
Has anyone gotten CNN yet?

Texadillo
10-10-07, 02:43 PM
Has anyone gotten CNN yet?

Tallahassee got CNN HD along with TBS HD on Oct. 4

Amnesia
10-10-07, 03:08 PM
Boston has had CNN-HD since the 2nd or 3rd...

sansri88
10-10-07, 04:20 PM
USA HD will be available shortly also!

No way, where did you find that out?

willwhdtv
10-10-07, 04:39 PM
From swanni's website. We in NJ are not getting it soon I was referring the the guys who said what channels he was still missing that comcast had announced carriage agreements.

sansri88
10-10-07, 04:54 PM
From swanni's website. We in NJ are not getting it soon I was referring the the guys who said what channels he was still missing that comcast had announced carriage agreements.

Oh, yeah I saw that article on swanni's site too. Man, you had me hopeful...

Quatre
10-11-07, 04:00 AM
dtv has cnbc hd and comcast gets cnn hd, why cant one of them have both.

comcast does seem to be over coming fios i hd chans but i dont know how its going to keep up with DTV

hardballpete
10-11-07, 06:42 AM
Sci-Fi HD & USA-HD.

Gots to have... Any questions?

d2s2
10-11-07, 07:19 AM
181 NFL HD
196 TBS-HD (added on 10/09)
197 FoodNetwork HD (added on 10/02)
198 HGTV HD (added on 10/02)
199 Nat'l Geo HD
200 VS/Golf Channel HD
201 FSN HD
202 ESPN HD
203 ESPN2 HD
204 TNT HD
205 HD Theater
206 MOJO (waste of bandwidth - should be HDNet)
208 Universal HD
209 MHD
210, 211, 212, 213, 214 - On Demand HD
215 HBO HD (also on 300)
216 A&E HD
219 Cinemax HD (also on 319)
223 Showtime HD (also on 339)
227 Starz HD (also on 369)
231 ABC HD
232 NBC HD
233 CBS HD
234 Fox HD
236 CW HD
240 PBS HD

The Food Network and HGTV adds were announced through a message printed on the cable bill. TBS was a "surprise" add, although I believe there were a lot of people calling Comcast during the ALDS and NLDS wanting the add (although the channel was added the day after the ALDS was over).

Ken H
10-11-07, 11:07 AM
First post has been edited to cover the latest updates.

bkozlowski
10-11-07, 12:26 PM
dtv has cnbc hd and comcast gets cnn hd, why cant one of them have both.

D* has both CNN HD and CNBC HD+, and soon Fox Business HD.

-b

General Klinger
10-11-07, 06:58 PM
National Geographic HD and NFL Network HD are coming on 10/18. Got this info from a Comcast engineer.

I live in Lakehurst, and we have those now

sansri88
10-11-07, 07:12 PM
I live in Lakehurst, and we have those now

Yeah some areas got them on 10/10, like my area (Comcast of Union South [aka Comcast of NJ II])

ak3883
10-12-07, 04:16 PM
A few months away, but article on multichannel says Comcast has an agreement with Disney corp for ESPNEWS HD.

Question is, by March is it too late for HD channels to get added, will all the bandwidth be eaten up by then with USAHD,CNNHD, etc. ? I guess they will have to continue to pull analogs to digital until SDV comes out. That would be fine with me.

It will be interesting to see how they use the additional space on 16:9 to show both stats and full 16:9 highlights: "Our HD viewers will have an unprecedented opportunity to view pristine 16x9 HD highlights accompanied by an abundance of real-time information from all areas of the sports world,”

I really hope they don't consider the crappy stat bar on SportsCenter reruns to allow full 16:9 highlights. IT DOESN'T!

ESPNews To Launch HD Service (http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6490771.html)

MRM4
10-12-07, 04:42 PM
They'll probably do it like they do on SportsCenter. If it was broadcast in high def, they'll show the highlights in high def. If it wasn't, then they'll either put the black bars on the sides or stretch to fit.

sansri88
10-12-07, 05:02 PM
If it wasn't, then they'll either put the black bars on the sides or stretch to fit.

SportsCenter doesn't stretch non-HD sources. They keep them as is and put the black bars.

Quatre
10-12-07, 10:32 PM
D* has both CNN HD and CNBC HD+, and soon Fox Business HD.

-b

oh ok so DTV seems to have everything that both Comcat and FIOS have and way more. except one thing. no Comcast Sportsnet Philly which is almost a deal breaker for philly sports fans but since i'm keeping comcast and dropping my fios for dtv, i should have the best of both worlds but still.

its a shame with dtv being far away the service to beat now and for what looks like a long time, many ppl in the Phila area wont get it without comast sportsnet philly and there is pretty much a philly sports fan in every household.

how did fios get csn philly but comcast blocked dtv from getting it. there should be class action case to allow those games to be simulcast on anothe channel that dtv has and or allow dtv to get csn philly.

homcom
10-12-07, 10:36 PM
how did fios get csn philly but comcast blocked dtv from getting it. there should be class action case to allow those games to be simulcast on anothe channel that dtv has and or allow dtv to get csn philly.

Simply put since CSN Philly is not distributed by satellite they do not have to deal with D* or E*. FIOS is terrestrial based so the loophole in the law does not apply to them.

Ken H
10-12-07, 11:53 PM
A few months away, but article on multichannel says Comcast has an agreement with Disney corp for ESPNEWS HD.Thanks for the info; first post updated.

donn35
10-13-07, 03:36 AM
Bad news for Comcast subscribers in Chicago! I have talked to a customer service rep & that person stated that History HD has been postponed until November 27th. Today, I have cancelled my service with Comcast due to of lack of HD channels e.g. no Discovery, Animal Planet, TLC, Science Channel, History, Big 10, etc. The only channel they recently added was TBS HD because of MLB playoffs & nothing else. Good bye Comcast & good riddance!

Marcus Carr
10-13-07, 07:00 AM
Comcast tunes up for Sox

October 12, 2007

the cape

Comcast tunes up for Sox

With the Red Sox and Cleveland Indians beginning the American League Championship Series, it seems a number of fans are eager to see every stitch on the players' gloves and every bead of sweat on the managers' brows.

As a result, Comcast has extended its hours at some customer service centers, including the one in South Yarmouth, today to meet an increased demand for high-definition cable boxes.

"The Red Sox post-season has sent demand for HD service into high-gear," said Tom Coughlin, vice president for Comcast's Southeastern Massachusetts Region, in a press release. "Watching a game in the crystal-clear clarity of high-definition is the next best thing to actually sitting in the stands."

Typically, Comcast offices close early on Saturdays, but today the office on 10 East Old Townhouse Road in South Yarmouth will remain open until 5 p.m. The Cape location is among five Comcast offices staying open later today.

The Sox-Indians series will be carried on Fox HD, which is carried by Comcast. If you're also paying attention to the National League Championship Series, the Colorado Rockies-Arizona Diamondbacks series will be carried on TBS's high-definition channel, which Comcast also offers.

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071012/BIZ/710120359

sansri88
10-13-07, 07:16 AM
As a result, Comcast has extended its hours at some customer service centers, including the one in South Yarmouth, today to meet an increased demand for high-definition cable boxes.

...

Typically, Comcast offices close early on Saturdays, but today the office on 10 East Old Townhouse Road in South Yarmouth will remain open until 5 p.m. The Cape location is among five Comcast offices staying open later today.

Hmm, strange because my office closes at 5pm on Saturdays, and that's their normal time.

Ken H
10-13-07, 09:49 AM
Hmm, strange because my office closes at 5pm on Saturdays, and that's their normal time.
Not strange at all, considering you live in a completely different part of the country.

As should be well known by now, Comcast channels, pricing, etc., can be very different in different service areas. This would include service location hours.

Quatre
10-13-07, 01:19 PM
for the guy in chicago canceling comcast for lack of hd chans. don't get fios, they used to have more but now actually have less then comcast.

get dtv for the undisputed champion of hd chans currently with evn more coming in the next couple months ( but get in now before prices go up) in just 2 mo. in dec. dtv will have 3x as many hd chans as comcast or fios & they won't be catching up for a long long time.

jrusnak
10-13-07, 03:14 PM
But sometimes, less can be more, depending on tastes. If you're a sports fan, Comcast may be better as they love to add channels like NFLHD, YESHD, VSGOLF, TBS-HD...most of which have no HD programming except for selected sporting events.

However, if you prefer more movie/entertainment-oriented HD channels, then Verizon may be better. At least they have HDNet and HDNet Movies. All HD all the time.

for the guy in chicago canceling comcast for lack of hd chans. don't get fios, they used to have more but now actually have less then comcast.

sansri88
10-14-07, 12:34 AM
Couple of important things for those people in Central and Northern NJ (includes you in Ocean County).

NHL Network comes on 10/15 on channel 276, S&E pack. Nothing new there.

iNDemand channels 196-198 will be taken off on 11/15, PPV only viewable on channel 500-502

You know how many areas use 196-200 for HD channels? I think NNJ will see Food HD, HGTV HD, History HD, and CNNHD come on or about 11/15.

Quatre
10-14-07, 12:45 AM
But sometimes, less can be more, depending on tastes. If you're a sports fan, Comcast may be better as they love to add channels like NFLHD, YESHD, VSGOLF, TBS-HD...most of which have no HD programming except for selected sporting events.

However, if you prefer more movie/entertainment-oriented HD channels, then Verizon may be better. At least they have HDNet and HDNet Movies. All HD all the time.

decent point but besides no hd net and hdnet movies on comcast, they currently have more hd chans then fios.

but my point was forget comcast for sports and fios for movies as you said when you can have dtv for the best of both of those and much much more. all the hd chans that they both have and way more.

only thing is dtv doesnt have comcast sportsnet philly and not sure what other cities they dont have so that could be the one thing holding a sports fan back from dtv. but besides that local rsn, there is way mroe sports in hd on dtv then comcast and way more movies in hd ond tv then fios.

bob2274
10-14-07, 10:03 AM
CSN Philadelphia is the only major regional sports network not on satellite. CSS (a college sports channel out of Atlanta) is another channel that's only on cable, but they don't have exclusive rights to all of a specific team's games. They are like a regional version of CSTV.

Over the years, Comcast has been able to convince the FCC that it is impossible to distribute their Philadelphia channel by satellite even though all of the other CSN regions are delivered that way.

Ken H
10-14-07, 10:48 AM
for the guy in chicago canceling comcast for lack of hd chans. don't get fios, they used to have more but now actually have less then comcast.

get dtv for the undisputed champion of hd chans currently with evn more coming in the next couple months ( but get in now before prices go up) in just 2 mo. in dec. dtv will have 3x as many hd chans as comcast or fios & they won't be catching up for a long long time.
If you're going to use abbreviations, use the correct ones:

DTV = Digital TV, as in over the air.

D* = DirecTV

lukin1
10-14-07, 11:30 AM
I think NNJ will see Food HD, HGTV HD, History HD, and CNNHD come on or about 11/15.


Sweet! I hope you're right!

nakedeye
10-14-07, 11:56 AM
Over the years, Comcast has been able to convince the FCC that it is impossible to distribute their Philadelphia channel by satellite even though all of the other CSN regions are delivered that way.

They don't convince them, they simply don't distribute it via sat. They use a system of microwave and fiber to transmit all their programing.

It's not that they can't distro using sat, they WON'T. The FCC cant force them to do so, and thus they get through the real signal loophole to D* by not having a sat distobution. However, Fios uses a terrestrial disto system, thus comcast HAS to sell them the signal. They also sell to cablevision in Mercer county NJ, as well as other places I'm sure.

chitchatjf
10-14-07, 03:54 PM
Couple of important things for those people in Central and Northern NJ (includes you in Ocean County).

NHL Network comes on 10/15 on channel 276, S&E pack. Nothing new there.

iNDemand channels 196-198 will be taken off on 11/15, PPV only viewable on channel 500-502

You know how many areas use 196-200 for HD channels? I think NNJ will see Food HD, HGTV HD, History HD, and CNNHD come on or about 11/15.

The digital "channels" on a digital cable box is just a remapping of digital QAM channels.

sansri88
10-14-07, 04:23 PM
The digital "channels" on a digital cable box is just a remapping of digital QAM channels.

Yes, I'm not that stupid. But, they're getting rid of those numbers, presumably to make room for the HD channels that will come there in time.

bob2274
10-14-07, 05:49 PM
It's not that they can't distro using sat, they WON'T. The FCC cant force them to do so, and thus they get through the real signal loophole to D* by not having a sat distobution.

I was thinking about when Comcast bought half of Adelphia. The issue about regional sports networks came up when the FCC was reviewing the merger. That's when Comcast made their case so they wouldn't be forced to distribute CSN by satellite as a condition of the sale.

nakedeye
10-14-07, 06:14 PM
I was thinking about when Comcast bought half of Adelphia. The issue about regional sports networks came up when the FCC was reviewing the merger. That's when Comcast made their case so they wouldn't be forced to distribute CSN by satellite as a condition of the sale.

Gotcha!

Amazing they spent all that money to distro terrestrially...

I guess they are too afraid they are going to loose tons of subs in philly!

ccotenj
10-14-07, 08:16 PM
Gotcha!

Amazing they spent all that money to distro terrestrially...

I guess they are too afraid they are going to loose tons of subs in philly!

i'm not surprised... they'd lose me if i could get csn via d*...

bob2274
10-14-07, 10:05 PM
Gotcha!

Amazing they spent all that money to distro terrestrially...

I guess they are too afraid they are going to loose tons of subs in philly!

Yes, that is correct. Where I live, CSN HD (Mid-Atlantic) is distributed terrestrially, but the sat companies have both come up with a way to get the HD signal. Fascinating, isn't it?

GoIrish
10-15-07, 06:38 AM
Gotcha!

Amazing they spent all that money to distro terrestrially...

I guess they are too afraid they are going to loose tons of subs in philly!

They bought an existing fiber/microwave infrastructure from a company that produced a regional sports and movie channel called Prism. They bought this around the same time they bought the Sixers/Flyers. The Prism network essentially already served what would be considered the local area of interest for Philadephia sports teams because of Prism's former carriage of some Phil sports.

GoIrish

nakedeye
10-15-07, 08:03 AM
They bought an existing fiber/microwave infrastructure from a company that produced a regional sports and movie channel called Prism. They bought this around the same time they bought the Sixers/Flyers. The Prism network essentially already served what would be considered the local area of interest for Philadephia sports teams because of Prism's former carriage of some Phil sports.

GoIrish

Yeah I remember Prism. Good channel. I guess they threw up starz afterwards to replace the loss of movies.

aindik
10-15-07, 10:16 AM
Yes, that is correct. Where I live, CSN HD (Mid-Atlantic) is distributed terrestrially, but the sat companies have both come up with a way to get the HD signal. Fascinating, isn't it?

I'm pretty sure CSN MidAtlantic (Baltimore/DC) is distributed via satellite. I'm talking about the SD version - I'm not sure if the HD is different.

Comcast didn't create CSN MidAtlantic. It bought the old Home Team Sports and changed the name. HTS was distributed by satellite, and Comcast kept it that way. Comcast did, however, "create" CSN-MA-HD, so maybe they are distributing that terrestrially.

QZ1
10-15-07, 12:32 PM
AFAIK, the 'terrestrial loophole' only applies to channels that had always been distributed that way, at the time of the FCC ruling. Therefore, a channel starting up terrestially afterwards, still had to be available to satellite. Also, once a channel goes satellite, even if it switchs back to terrestrial, it must be available to satellite.

Last I read, there were a few other RSNs that were 'grandfathered' by the 'terrestrial loophole', each served one or two pro sports teams. CSN-Phila. serves three pro sports teams.

jefbal99
10-15-07, 12:35 PM
Last I read, there were a few other RSNs that were 'grandfathered' by the 'terrestrial loophole', each served one or two pro sports teams. CSN-Phila. serves three pro sports teams.

What are the others? I thought it was just CSN Philly.

blitzen102
10-15-07, 12:36 PM
Comcast is finally getting around to adding the Family tier here on November 15th.
Should allow them to move some analogs to digital-only since the tier requires a digital STB.

sansri88
10-15-07, 03:07 PM
Comcast is finally getting around to adding the Family tier here on November 15th.
Should allow them to move some analogs to digital-only since the tier requires a digital STB.

What's the family tier?

BigDaddyRoy
10-15-07, 03:29 PM
What's the family tier?

From Comcast's Web Site (cut and pasted to read semi normally)


As a part of Comcast's ongoing commitment and effort to provide family-friendly programming, we want to give parents and families more choice and control over the programming they receive.

In determining the channel lineup for the Family Tier, Comcast looked at two key factors: channels that are generally perceived as acceptable for viewing by the whole family and channels that are widely distributed across all of our cable systems. Channels not included in the Family Tier may not have met this criteria.

A subscription to Comcast’s entry-level, basic service is required to get the Family Tier.
The Family Tier includes:
Toon Disney
Disney
Discovery Kids
Nickelodeon or Nick Too
Nickelodeon Games and Sports (GAS)
PBS KIDS Sprout
DIY (Do It Yourself Network)
CNN Headline News
The Weather Channel
C-SPAN
C-SPAN 2
Food Network
National Geographic
Science Channel (Discovery)
HGTV
TBN (Trinity Broadcast Network)
It also includes all your local broadcast channels.
As required by law, all local broadcast channels must be part of the most basic tier sold to every home. Our goal is to give you the information and technology you need to make your own choices concerning cable service programming. In addition to the Family Tier, Comcast offers Parental Controls that can help you manage what your family watches.

sansri88
10-15-07, 04:04 PM
Ahh, that's ok. I'll pass on the family tier, and stick with Digital Preferred.

Marcus Carr
10-15-07, 05:42 PM
Baltimore got NHL Network and Fox Business Network today, but only in SD. I hope they add the HD versions.

lukin1
10-15-07, 10:59 PM
Baltimore got NHL Network and Fox Business Network today, but only in SD. I hope they add the HD versions.

Central NJ got FBN SD as well (had to tune to the channel to figure out what it stood for!)... not sure about NHL Network.

sansri88
10-15-07, 11:01 PM
Central NJ got FBN SD as well (had to tune to the channel to figure out what it stood for!)... not sure about NHL Network.

NHL Network comes on 10/18 for us, at least me in northern Middlesex County (Comcas of Union NJ II). Only SD though, according to a source.

maxman
10-15-07, 11:04 PM
From Wikipedia:

"PRISM's legacy is noteworthy because Comcast SportsNet continues to use PRISM's infrastructure of only broadcasting via microwave and fiber optics. A controversial FCC guideline implemented to encourage investment in local programming states that a television channel does not have to make its shows available to satellite companies if it does not use satellites to transmit its programs. This guideline has allowed Comcast to block DirecTV providers from carrying Comcast SportsNet in the Philadelphia area. Consequently, satellite penetration in the Philadelphia area is much lower than in other cities."

maxman
10-15-07, 11:11 PM
Central NJ got FBN SD as well (had to tune to the channel to figure out what it stood for!)...

Scrolling through the guide I came upon a pay channel called 'HERE'; another channel I've never heard of. Called Comcast to be told it's a 'gay' channel.

There's a bunch of these pay channels that we have no idea what they are. Instead of just showing "you are not subscribed to this channel" why couldn't they also have some information about what the heck the channel is?

Amnesia
10-16-07, 09:28 AM
In Boston, Comcast has added 2 new HD channels this month and is scheduled to add another 2. I call that making effort.

DVDO+WESTY=1080p
10-16-07, 10:24 AM
Baltimore got NHL Network and Fox Business Network today, but only in SD. I hope they add the HD versions.

I hope so too but I am not sure that they would because they decided to carry the SD versions only, meaning that the HD versions are available but for some reason they only decided to carry the SD versions.

blitzen102
10-16-07, 10:50 AM
NHL Network added here today.

jefbal99
10-16-07, 11:29 AM
NHL Network added here today.

SD or HD?

blitzen102
10-16-07, 11:31 AM
SD or HD?

SD only so far, sorry.

I tend to grasp for every tiny bit of progress.

jefbal99
10-16-07, 11:50 AM
SD only so far, sorry.

I tend to grasp for every tiny bit of progress.

I understand, me too, which is why i'm actively searching out alternate to Comcast.

HDTV-NUT
10-16-07, 12:39 PM
NHL Network added here today.

what channel?

blitzen102
10-16-07, 12:40 PM
what channel?

276

jklarfeld
10-16-07, 01:46 PM
same in DC (NHL SD on 276)

chitchatjf
10-16-07, 04:14 PM
Boston has NHL on 259,howver it is not hD,and we still do not have FBN.

I forsee USA HD on 835 and History HD on 858

Amnesia
10-16-07, 07:12 PM
Shouldn't HistoryHD be on 867? My History SD is on 67...

sansri88
10-16-07, 07:16 PM
Shouldn't HistoryHD be on 867? My History SD is on 67...

Most of the time the HD channel location doesn't correspond with the SD counterpart. Just look at ESPN/ESPN2. ESPN is channel 3, and ESPN2 is 74, and the HD simulcast is 202 and 203, respectively. It's wherever your system feels like putting it.

NortheasternPJ
10-16-07, 08:05 PM
Most of the time the HD channel location doesn't correspond with the SD counterpart. Just look at ESPN/ESPN2. ESPN is channel 3, and ESPN2 is 74, and the HD simulcast is 202 and 203, respectively. It's wherever your system feels like putting it.


In Boston it's nearly exactly the SD to 8-HD, 2 is 802, ESPN is 49 and 849, NESN is 51 and 851, Discovery is 39 and 839 etc. etc.

bob2274
10-16-07, 08:10 PM
I would imagine NHL HD will start near the end of the month. The graphic at the bottom keeps telling me about the Capitals vs. Canucks game on October 26, "in HD where available". They also didn't show the Red Wings - Ducks game last night in the US. The entire channel is a simulcast of the Canadian version now, but I guess that's only something to show as they get more carriers going, then the HD channel will launch with games produced for the U.S. audience.

bob2274
10-16-07, 08:19 PM
I'm pretty sure CSN MidAtlantic (Baltimore/DC) is distributed via satellite. I'm talking about the SD version - I'm not sure if the HD is different.

Comcast didn't create CSN MidAtlantic. It bought the old Home Team Sports and changed the name. HTS was distributed by satellite, and Comcast kept it that way. Comcast did, however, "create" CSN-MA-HD, so maybe they are distributing that terrestrially.


When Comcast wouldn't carry CSN-HD in my area, they both said that the HD version was distributed terrestrially, and each carrier is responsible for getting the HD feed from the CSN facility in Bethesda. It makes sense, except that DirecTV had already found a way to carry the HD signal, and now Dish carries it too. With increasing competition, it was all of the sudden feasible for Comcast to get the signal from Bethesda and carry it here.

sansri88
10-16-07, 08:34 PM
I would imagine NHL HD will start near the end of the month.

My source tells me otherwise. No NHL HD planned at all for my area.

Dvmccollum
10-16-07, 09:38 PM
Now that the baseball playoffs on TBS are over let's petition Comcast to get rid of TBS HD in favour of something else that actually has HD content. Personally, I would like to see a simulcast of the Discovery channel.

bob2274
10-16-07, 09:45 PM
If they have an agreement in place, they cannot simply drop the channel after 2 weeks. To get the games, cable companies can get either all or nothing. That's how regional sports networks get year round carriage when all they might show is "filler" programming for six months at a time.

Dvmccollum
10-16-07, 10:01 PM
If they have an agreement in place, they cannot simply drop the channel after 2 weeks. To get the games, cable companies can get either all or nothing. That's how regional sports networks get year round carriage when all they might show is "filler" programming for six months at a time.

I did enjoy watching the Red Sox and Rockies in HD. However, it's too bad that we have to deal with TBS HD and their complete lack of HD content when the bandwidth could be used for better options.

gakon
10-16-07, 11:53 PM
I did enjoy watching the Red Sox and Rockies in HD. However, it's too bad that we have to deal with TBS HD and their complete lack of HD content when the bandwidth could be used for better options.

"Did"? It's not over yet... :) (I know, it is over on TBS)

Doesn't TBS show any movies in HD? Less of a waste than MHD - sure the shows are in HD, but they appear to be the same ones that were on last spring when we first got MHD - or was it two years ago? I forget.

Slickone
10-16-07, 11:58 PM
NHL Network added here today.

You guys are getting NHL Network, while we here in Chicago get C-SPAN 3, now that's a winner. :rolleyes:

Marcus Carr
10-17-07, 05:54 AM
Doesn't TBS show any movies in HD?

Not so far.

HDTV-NUT
10-17-07, 07:56 AM
NGCHD and NFLHD have been added to the lineup in north jersey as of today. funny thing is, NFLHD actually comes in without being subscribed to the sports package. i guess now that it is included in the HD package (which I pay extra for) they decided to let us be able to view it. how nice comcast is! :P

dan57
10-17-07, 08:48 AM
NGCHD and NFLHD have been added to the lineup in north jersey as of today. funny thing is, NFLHD actually comes in without being subscribed to the sports package. i guess now that it is included in the HD package (which I pay extra for) they decided to let us be able to view it. how nice comcast is! :P

Interesting. Here in East Brunswick (Comcast Central Jersey), NFLHD appeared at 218 but it is "not authorized." I assume that means I have to subscribe to the sports package.

willwhdtv
10-17-07, 10:10 AM
Dan57 That's true but Comcast is running a promotion for the Sports pack $1.99 for six months which is not a bad deal unless you think we should get it for free which I do.

Dbower
10-17-07, 11:44 AM
We should press Comcast into NOT carrying any so-called HD channel just because they stretch 4:3 SD material into 16:9. If they are so hurting for bandwidth, then we should all agree that quality is better than quantity. Even a 4:3 ratio show shown in the highest resolution possible is better than what we are getting. As it is, not only is it stretched, but the source of some of these shows looks like VCR quality.

With that, TBSHD, A&EHD and TBSHD should be OUT. There are plenty of true HD channels to properly fill the void.

-Dave

kenvt
10-17-07, 11:50 AM
We should press Comcast into NOT carrying any so-called HD channel just because they stretch 4:3 SD material into 16:9. If they are so hurting for bandwidth, then we should all agree that quality is better than quantity. Even a 4:3 ratio show shown in the highest resolution possible is better than what we are getting. As it is, not only is it stretched, but the source of some of these shows looks like VCR quality.

With that, TBSHD, A&EHD and TBSHD should be OUT. There are plenty of true HD channels to properly fill the void.

-Dave

I noticed "The Office" on TBS was in stretch-o-vision, wasn't that show always filmed in HD ? Why stretch if it was originally in HD ?

-Ken

jefbal99
10-17-07, 11:53 AM
I noticed "The Office" on TBS was in stretch-o-vision, wasn't that show always filmed in HD ? Why stretch if it was originally in HD ?

-Ken

Because TBS only has the SD version in their libraries or available to them

jrusnak
10-17-07, 11:56 AM
With that, TBSHD, A&EHD and TBSHD should be OUT. There are plenty of true HD channels to properly fill the void.

-Dave


Boy, I'm with you on that! Add VSGLF to the list too. Even though I never watch that channel, there is NO HD programming for that channel listed for at least the next two weeks!!!!

Dbower
10-17-07, 11:57 AM
Same with the last couple of seasons (at least) of Crossing Jordon on A&EHD. The only thing I can figure is that these networks are not paying for the rights to rerun the HD versions of these shows. Perhaps they figure they can stretch it and fool people. They are not!

Besides, these shows are trimmed from the already commercial-laden ~47 minutes to less than 45 minutes for even more commercials. Time it sometime - it's depressing! So - more commercials, SD stretched to make the actors look +30 pounds, and I'm supposed to be entertained by this?!

-Dave

aindik
10-17-07, 12:01 PM
Boy, I'm with you on that! Add VSGLF to the list too. Even though I never watch that channel, there is NO HD programming for that channel listed for at least the next two weeks!!!!

They showed an NHL game in HD last night. Are they not showing any in the next two weeks?

blitzen102
10-17-07, 12:05 PM
Boy, I'm with you on that! Add VSGLF to the list too. Even though I never watch that channel, there is NO HD programming for that channel listed for at least the next two weeks!!!!

Listed where?

The NHL games on Monday and Tuesday nights are all HD.

The professional golf tours are pretty much done for the year - that's why there is no golf on in HD.

Marcus Carr
10-17-07, 12:07 PM
Even though I never watch that channel, there is NO HD programming for that channel listed for at least the next two weeks!!!!

http://www.versus.com/nw/article/view/27854/?tf=nwArticle.tpl

jefbal99
10-17-07, 12:24 PM
Boy, I'm with you on that! Add VSGLF to the list too. Even though I never watch that channel, there is NO HD programming for that channel listed for at least the next two weeks!!!!

They don't tag anything in their Channel Guide as HD. All NHL Hockey, pre and post game is HD. Most PBR is HD (few events out of the US are SD), The Cagefighting/MMA shows are HD.

I was shocked that the new South Sidney was not upconverted. It looks like its 16x9 SD from down under, but it would be fine to upconvert that as long as it didn't have an VsHD logo.

Many of the Hunting and fishing syndicated programs are HD, plus they had coverage of the Track and Field World Championships in HD for most of August.

The only event they really dropped the ball on was the Tour de France this summer when an HD feed was available and they didn't get the contract for it.

The Golf channel showed live and evening replays of Thurs/Fri PGA Tour events, all of them since the 1st of February. Some Senior and LPGA events were HD including the weekend coverage. Also, they have been more and more full HD events during the presidents cup and this past weekend, something out west was in HD all weekend (its was the best, but it was better than NBCs production).

I'm hoping that next season, the golf channel studios will be upgraded for HD studio broadcasts and maybe even when they go onsite for the majors.

I think i covered most of it, but i may have missed something, VSGLF is a great HD channel if you are a sports fan.

raidbuck
10-17-07, 12:32 PM
We should press Comcast into NOT carrying any so-called HD channel just because they stretch 4:3 SD material into 16:9. If they are so hurting for bandwidth, then we should all agree that quality is better than quantity. Even a 4:3 ratio show shown in the highest resolution possible is better than what we are getting. As it is, not only is it stretched, but the source of some of these shows looks like VCR quality.

With that, TBSHD, A&EHD and TBSHD should be OUT. There are plenty of true HD channels to properly fill the void.

-Dave

Yes, TBS-HD doesn't have any HD. And I wouldn't watch the shows even if they were in HD. But can you imagine the screams from people here (including me) if they had to watch the MLB playoffs in SD? And A&E does have some HD. Newer American Justice and The First 48 are in HD (older are stretched.) My view is, get what you can when you can. Then you'll have it when more shows are shown in HD. I've watched two HD college football games on Versus the past 3 weeks (heartbroken over Cal's loss) so I can't complain about that channel.

Comcast is aware that it needs to expand its HD offerings and they are, at least in most areas.

Rich N.

jefbal99
10-17-07, 12:37 PM
They haven't been expanding in my area, SD or HD. Last add we got was a permanent home for the NFL Network in early/mid August. No TBS HD, CNN HD, USA HD, History HD, or NHL CI HD. No Fox Business, no NHL on the sports tier.

On top of all of that, still no Big Ten Network for any of the other channels that D* has added and E* has over Comcast.

I went into my local office to start the cancellation process (need to get prices to keep just my HSI) and told them why I would be returning my STBs and canceling cable. Typically you'll get a sales pitch about a better package and prices to try and keep you as a client. I got nothing, the lady wasn't rude, but didn't make any attempt to keep me as a cable sub.

Unless something drastic changes in the next 6 hours, my D* order will be placed this afternoon and I'll no longer care what the next HD channel for Comcast is.

Dbower
10-17-07, 01:14 PM
The point I was making is not so much that these channels don't have SOME HD content, but rather that it's infrequent and the bulk of the material is stretched SD.

If a channel can't get 16:9 HD content right away, fine. Be honest. Give me the best SD 4:3 signal you can for now. But the stretch-o-matic makes some of these shows unwatchable; add in another 5 minutes of commercials and it becomes pointless.

-Dave

bicker1
10-17-07, 01:25 PM
I'd rather have the HD content I want, rather than be deprived of it because it is the only HD content a channel has to offer. So TNT-HD is important, as is AMC HD (which we don't have as a linear channel, but its okay because we have it via VOD). I'd sure rather that they aim first for the channels that offer the best combination of popularity and HD content, though. USA HD should be a priority, by that metric.

aindik
10-17-07, 01:40 PM
Yes, TBS-HD doesn't have any HD. And I wouldn't watch the shows even if they were in HD. But can you imagine the screams from people here (including me) if they had to watch the MLB playoffs in SD?

What is the deal with TBS not showing anything in HD. Even their movies aren't in HD. Even something that has previously been shown on TNT in HD (I stumbled upon "Walking Tall" on TBS, after stumbling upon it on TNT a few months ago).

And A&E does have some HD. Newer American Justice and The First 48 are in HD (older are stretched.)

Are my eyes deceiving me, or are the CSI: Miami reruns in HD? They, at least, don't look stretched out.

jefbal99
10-17-07, 02:15 PM
Are my eyes deceiving me, or are the CSI: Miami reruns in HD? They, at least, don't look stretched out.

Yes they are

HDTV-NUT
10-17-07, 02:16 PM
Dan57 That's true but Comcast is running a promotion for the Sports pack $1.99 for six months which is not a bad deal unless you think we should get it for free which I do.

Its weird though that it is coming in free here in the Plainfield area. I do not pay for the sports pack and yet NFLHD is coming in fine. The regular SD version of the NFl channel says I need a subscription though! LOL

oleus
10-17-07, 02:17 PM
What is the deal with TBS not showing anything in HD. Even their movies aren't in HD. Even something that has previously been shown on TNT in HD (I stumbled upon "Walking Tall" on TBS, after stumbling upon it on TNT a few months ago).



Are my eyes deceiving me, or are the CSI: Miami reruns in HD? They, at least, don't look stretched out.


i've seen plenty of HD reruns of CSI MIAMI on A&E.

QZ1
10-17-07, 03:20 PM
What are the others? I thought it was just CSN Philly.
RSN coverage could have changed in the last several years. I only recall the Toronto Blue Jays and San Diego Padres as teams with at least some games not available on Directv, but there were a few more teams, including at least one area with two teams missing. There was list of RSN coverage, noting a few RSNs not covered by Directv; probably compiled by someone on AVS Forum.

aindik
10-17-07, 03:32 PM
RSN coverage could have changed in the last several years. I only recall the Toronto Blue Jays and San Diego Padres as teams with at least some games not available on Directv, but there were a few more teams, including at least one area with two teams missing. There was list of RSN coverage, noting a few RSNs not covered by Directv; probably compiled by someone on AVS Forum.

There are some RSNs that are available in SD but not in HD because the HD version uses this terrestrial transmission loophole that CSN Philly uses. I think MSG and FSNY (owned by Cablevision) in New York are doing that. There's a whole thread on it in this forum.

jefbal99
10-17-07, 04:39 PM
RSN coverage could have changed in the last several years. I only recall the Toronto Blue Jays and San Diego Padres as teams with at least some games not available on Directv, but there were a few more teams, including at least one area with two teams missing. There was list of RSN coverage, noting a few RSNs not covered by Directv; probably compiled by someone on AVS Forum.

Yeah, i forgot about 4SD in san degio owned by Cox

bob2274
10-17-07, 04:48 PM
You guys are getting NHL Network, while we here in Chicago get C-SPAN 3, now that's a winner. :rolleyes:

Maybe the Wirtz family doesn't want you to see it because they still think that less people will buy Blackhawks tickets if hockey is on TV.

ghudson666
10-17-07, 06:12 PM
Its weird though that it is coming in free here in the Plainfield area. I do not pay for the sports pack and yet NFLHD is coming in fine. The regular SD version of the NFl channel says I need a subscription though! LOL

Do not worry, the NFL-HD channel will soon be locked unless you are paying for the sports tier.

sansri88
10-17-07, 06:15 PM
Do not worry, the NFL-HD channel will soon be locked unless you are paying for the sports tier.

Man, I was hoping it was a fluke and they would leave it like that.

but, it's not like anything comes in HD on that channel. 99% SD.

HDTV-NUT
10-17-07, 09:20 PM
i am thinking that it may stay open. it is part of the "HD package" so since i pay for the hd package the nflhd channel is open. here is to wishful thinking. lol

STayfair
10-17-07, 09:56 PM
Maybe the Wirtz family doesn't want you to see it because they still think that less people will buy Blackhawks tickets if hockey is on TV.

Not sure how much national attention it got but did you hear that Dollar Bill Wirtz passed away a couple weeks ago? Rocky Wirtz is running the show now and the talk is that Hawk home games will be on TV real soon now. Talk of maybe towards the end of this year and if not most likely next year for sure. Still holding my breath but there is a change in the air.

ghudson666
10-18-07, 12:53 AM
i am thinking that it may stay open. it is part of the "HD package" so since i pay for the hd package the nflhd channel is open. here is to wishful thinking. lol

The NFL network SD and HD channels are part of the Sports Entertainment Package
http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Programming/sports/SEPackage.html The HD channel will be blocked [unless you are paying for the sports tier or what ever they call it] once they figure out it is not.

The NFL-HD channel is a joke since it rarely shows a previous weeks game in HD. Their weekly and daily live and taped analysis networks shows are not in HD. How much does a HD camera cost? I got it since it only costs $1.99 per month for the first year but I will cancel as soon as the super bowl ends. Next year I will only get it for the weekend if my Cowboys are playing on the NFL channel. Call to order on Saturday, cancel on Monday. Unfortunately this year the Cowboys have two NFL network televised games.

donn35
10-18-07, 02:44 AM
They haven't been expanding in my area, SD or HD. Last add we got was a permanent home for the NFL Network in early/mid August. No TBS HD, CNN HD, USA HD, History HD, or NHL CI HD. No Fox Business, no NHL on the sports tier.

On top of all of that, still no Big Ten Network for any of the other channels that D* has added and E* has over Comcast.

I went into my local office to start the cancellation process (need to get prices to keep just my HSI) and told them why I would be returning my STBs and canceling cable. Typically you'll get a sales pitch about a better package and prices to try and keep you as a client. I got nothing, the lady wasn't rude, but didn't make any attempt to keep me as a cable sub.

Unless something drastic changes in the next 6 hours, my D* order will be placed this afternoon and I'll no longer care what the next HD channel for Comcast is.



You better start the cancellation process my friend because I recently cancelled my service with Comcast due to them not providing their customers with all the new HD programming out there e.g. Animal Planet, Science Channel, History Channel, etc.

jefbal99
10-18-07, 08:19 AM
You better start the cancellation process my friend because I recently cancelled my service with Comcast due to them not providing their customers with all the new HD programming out there e.g. Animal Planet, Science Channel, History Channel, etc.

My D* order went in last night, as soon as its active, I will have my boxes at the Comcast office and downgrade to the basics and HSI

maxman
10-18-07, 09:04 AM
You better start the cancellation process my friend because I recently cancelled my service with Comcast due to them not providing their customers with all the new HD programming out there e.g. Animal Planet, Science Channel, History Channel, etc.

So how happy are you with your new provider? Can we get a full report?

maxman
10-18-07, 09:06 AM
NFL-HD active (channel 218) this morning in S. Jersey. That's 25 HD channels here including the HD-PPV channel.

JayMan007
10-18-07, 09:56 AM
i've seen plenty of HD reruns of CSI MIAMI on A&E.

Is CSI Miami the only thing in HD?

I saw commercials for The Office. I would think that would also be in HD.

nakedeye
10-18-07, 10:04 AM
You better start the cancellation process my friend because I recently cancelled my service with Comcast due to them not providing their customers with all the new HD programming out there e.g. Animal Planet, Science Channel, History Channel, etc.


I'm confused...

I should cancel because you canceld?

maxman
10-18-07, 10:44 AM
I'm confused...

I should cancel because you canceld?

He was responding to jefbal99. Did you miss that?

Addicted2HD4Now
10-18-07, 10:50 AM
i am thinking that it may stay open. it is part of the "HD package" so since i pay for the hd package the nflhd channel is open. here is to wishful thinking. lol

No chance. Everywhere else it's part of the sports & entertainment package (HD and SD).

DeathOpie
10-18-07, 11:53 AM
So now that Fox Sports New England is now Comcast Sports Network will we get Celtics games in HD this season? They used to use one of the INHD channels for the games and then switch back. How will it work now? Last nights pre-season game was not available in HD in western ma.

jwebb1970
10-18-07, 11:59 AM
They haven't been expanding in my area, SD or HD. Last add we got was a permanent home for the NFL Network in early/mid August. No TBS HD, CNN HD, USA HD, History HD, or NHL CI HD. No Fox Business, no NHL on the sports tier.

On top of all of that, still no Big Ten Network for any of the other channels that D* has added and E* has over Comcast.

I went into my local office to start the cancellation process (need to get prices to keep just my HSI) and told them why I would be returning my STBs and canceling cable. Typically you'll get a sales pitch about a better package and prices to try and keep you as a client. I got nothing, the lady wasn't rude, but didn't make any attempt to keep me as a cable sub.

Unless something drastic changes in the next 6 hours, my D* order will be placed this afternoon and I'll no longer care what the next HD channel for Comcast is.


You better start the cancellation process my friend because I recently cancelled my service with Comcast due to them not providing their customers with all the new HD programming out there e.g. Animal Planet, Science Channel, History Channel, etc.


Made the Comcast to D* switch last week. Even with the $199 up front for the HDDVR....it was still the best entertainment decision I've made in a long time! More HD programming for less $$. (Did get the $100 off rebate and $50 Visa Gift Card newbie promos, so the $200 hurt a lot less).

See ya, Comcast!

McDonoughDawg
10-18-07, 12:02 PM
My D* order went in last night, as soon as its active, I will have my boxes at the Comcast office and downgrade to the basics and HSI
I really don't see what this has to do with new Comcast HD channels.

jefbal99
10-18-07, 12:05 PM
I really don't see what this has to do with new Comcast HD channels.

Not much, I begged, pleaded, worked my way the management chains, trying to work with Comcast, but I discovered that it was worthless and they don't really give a crap about their clients.

hdtvjunkie247
10-18-07, 12:52 PM
Yeah, if you're receiving NFL Network HD in the clear, you shouldn't. It was added today on my system, along with National Geographic HD and is encrypted.

jwebb1970
10-18-07, 12:57 PM
I really don't see what this has to do with new Comcast HD channels

Not much, I begged, pleaded, worked my way the management chains, trying to work with Comcast, but I discovered that it was worthless and they don't really give a crap about their clients.

If anything, it has to do with the fact that, when compared to D*'s current run of new HD rollouts every week or so, Comcast and it's other cable brethren just can't compete.

My biggest "loss" in my switchover was OnDemand (which I loved - but D*'s VOD service is due to go nationwide early in '08) and the loss of my local CW and PBS HD signals (although an OTA antenna rectified this). Other than that, D* wins. 3-4 times the HD, no extra "sports tier" for NFL Network (SD and HD), a smoother operating HDDVR....and less $ per month, even after the promo pricing ends!

Comcast did nothing to keep me. The local CSR even told me when I turned in by equipment that they were seeing A LOT of defections to D* recently.

bicker1
10-18-07, 01:08 PM
Not much, I begged, pleaded, worked my way the management chains, trying to work with Comcast, but I discovered that it was worthless and they don't really give a crap about their clients.I suspect that they do care, but not as much as you want them to care about your individual clients. All mass-market consumer-facing service providers care about groups of customers in proportion to how much those customers contribute to profitability.

bicker1
10-18-07, 01:16 PM
If anything, it has to do with the fact that, when compared to D*'s current run of new HD rollouts every week or so, Comcast and it's other cable brethren just can't compete.I disagree. I have checked out DirecTV several times over the years, each time hoping to find something indicating that they're better than Comcast despite our past experience that their picture quality is inferior to Comcast's (here). Well, I haven't seen anything indicating that they've restored full HD resolution, even with their new satellites, but even if they have, they are STILL not providing PBS in HD here in Boston. They're also not providing CW in HD here in Boston. How is that "better" than Comcast?

mexican-bum
10-18-07, 01:27 PM
I disagree. I have checked out DirecTV several times over the years, each time hoping to find something indicating that they're better than Comcast despite our past experience that their picture quality is inferior to Comcast's (here). Well, I haven't seen anything indicating that they've restored full HD resolution, even with their new satellites, but even if they have, they are STILL not providing PBS in HD here in Boston. They're also not providing CW in HD here in Boston. How is that "better" than Comcast?

read the directv forums, as there New mpeg 4 channels are stellar, but heck if you happy with what you currently have the stay with it:) My uncle uses an antenna only, he likes it even though I don't:D

bicker1
10-18-07, 01:36 PM
I figured that the MPEG4 channels would be better, but when they're missing two national broadcast networks, it is a pretty poor consolation.

mexican-bum
10-18-07, 01:44 PM
I figured that the MPEG4 channels would be better, but when they're missing two national broadcast networks, it is a pretty poor consolation.

were I live those 2 networks don't even broadcast anything in HD, so the SD on directv is sufficient, I guess it also helps I watch nothing on those channels either:D If you are seriously considering the switch just get antenna to pick them up in HD, the dtv receiver will add them in the guide along with the other channels

aindik
10-18-07, 02:32 PM
were I live those 2 networks don't even broadcast anything in HD, so the SD on directv is sufficient, I guess it also helps I watch nothing on those channels either:D If you are seriously considering the switch just get antenna to pick them up in HD, the dtv receiver will add them in the guide along with the other channels

The CW and PBS don't broadcast in HD where you are?

PBS and the CW are in HD in prime time every night here (except on Friday, when the CW airs professional wrestling that isn't in HD). PBS is in HD most of the weekend, too. The CW affiliate here also airs the occasional Phillies game in HD (when they're either at home or at the stadium of another team whose regional sports network is owned by Comcast (i.e., the Mets and Nationals)).

Speaking of the Phillies, that's the principle reason I can't move to DirecTV - the stranglehold Comcast has on local sports in Philadelphia. I'm not even a Philly fan (grew up in New York), but they play my teams enough, and I have family over enough, that I need to have Comcast SportsNet, only available on cable.

Renagade
10-18-07, 03:15 PM
Made the Comcast to D* switch last week. Even with the $199 up front for the HDDVR....it was still the best entertainment decision I've made in a long time! More HD programming for less $$. (Did get the $100 off rebate and $50 Visa Gift Card newbie promos, so the $200 hurt a lot less).

See ya, Comcast!


I understand that people are going to switch to D for what ever reason and I have no problem with that but now that your gone why are you still coming into a Comcast thread? The Title is "What's the next HD channel for Comcast?"......

mexican-bum
10-18-07, 03:17 PM
The CW and PBS don't broadcast in HD where you are?

PBS and the CW are in HD in prime time every night here (except on Friday, when the CW airs professional wrestling that isn't in HD). PBS is in HD most of the weekend, too. The CW affiliate here also airs the occasional Phillies game in HD (when they're either at home or at the stadium of another team whose regional sports network is owned by Comcast (i.e., the Mets and Nationals)).

Speaking of the Phillies, that's the principle reason I can't move to DirecTV - the stranglehold Comcast has on local sports in Philadelphia. I'm not even a Philly fan (grew up in New York), but they play my teams enough, and I have family over enough, that I need to have Comcast SportsNet, only available on cable.

My locals come out of tulsa oklahoma, CW is only carried in digital as a sub channel to CBS, and not in HD

aindik
10-18-07, 03:23 PM
My locals come out of tulsa oklahoma, CW is only carried in digital as a sub channel to CBS, and not in HD

Ah, so Tulsa doesn't actually have a CW affiliate. In Philly and many other cities (most, if not all, large ones), the CW is on a full channel, not a sub-channel.

What about PBS?

mexican-bum
10-18-07, 03:30 PM
Ah, so Tulsa doesn't actually have a CW affiliate. In Philly and many other cities (most, if not all, large ones), the CW is on a full channel, not a sub-channel.

What about PBS?

yep, PBS is in HD here, also has 4 sub channels. I use a small ota antenna in my attic for it, never watch it though:rolleyes:

bicker1
10-18-07, 03:40 PM
were I live those 2 networks don't even broadcast anything in HD, so the SD on directv is sufficient, I guess it also helps I watch nothing on those channels either:D That's the real issue... What do you watch, and what will you get with one or the other. For me, losing PBS HD means losing History Detectives, Travels to the Edge, The Desert Speaks, Smart Travels, Masterpiece Theater, Great Performances, and special presentations like the War, Frontier House, A Royal Year, etc. Losing CW HD means losing Reaper and Life is Wild. The only show my wife and I watch that DirecTV offers in HD that I can't get in HD today is Stargate Atlantis.

mexican-bum
10-18-07, 03:55 PM
That's the real issue... What do you watch, and what will you get with one or the other. For me, losing PBS HD means losing History Detectives, Travels to the Edge, The Desert Speaks, Smart Travels, Masterpiece Theater, Great Performances, and special presentations like the War, Frontier House, A Royal Year, etc. Losing CW HD means losing Reaper and Life is Wild. The only show my wife and I watch that DirecTV offers in HD that I can't get in HD today is Stargate Atlantis.

Sports mainly. Watch college football a lot, watch speed channel a lot, discovery channel. Wife watches movies and education stuff on channels like Smithsonian HD and animalplanethd, and a few shows on the big 4 etc. Really the only non sports show I watch is mythbusters. I am 23 so maybe that also has to do with my watching habits, as all the stuff you watch I don't like. :D Sounds like you would do pretty good with nothing but an OTA antenna;)

jwebb1970
10-18-07, 03:57 PM
I disagree. I have checked out DirecTV several times over the years, each time hoping to find something indicating that they're better than Comcast despite our past experience that their picture quality is inferior to Comcast's (here). Well, I haven't seen anything indicating that they've restored full HD resolution, even with their new satellites, but even if they have, they are STILL not providing PBS in HD here in Boston. They're also not providing CW in HD here in Boston. How is that "better" than Comcast?

"Better" for me, in my own case. Quantity of HD programming is the big reason(anxious for the return of BSG on SCiFi - this time, first run in HD). And after over 3 yrs with Comcast HD, I see no apprecialble difference in D*'s HD material. The newer MPEG4's are fabulous, and to be honest, the older MPEG2 stuff is hardly "crap". This may have something to do with the newer HR-20 DVRs and their video chipsets? Do know that when I swapped my 1st Moto/Comcast HDDVR for a 6416SIII, I got an apprecialble increase in SD PQ on both digital and analog channels. SD from D* also looks a tad better than it did via Comcast.

As far as no PBS or CW, in my case these are the 2 HD locals that I can pull in easily OTA. Wanted HDNet, and was more than willing to give up MOJO in exchange. And PBS is the one of those 2 missing locals that I'd tune to with any regularity.

OnDemand was, for me, the major reason I stayed with them as long as I did. HD locals were the other. The big 4 networks that we watch the most are carried over sat, and look virtually identical to their cable counterparts. D*'s VOD will be live soon.

Outside of the yearly rate increases (and that pesky re-tiering of NFL Network), I wasn't completely dissatisifed w/ Comcast. Doesn't mean I had no other complaints. Yeah, the Moto DVRs kinda suck at times. But OnDemand made up for it (when it worked properly). After the Discovery Networks, USA, SCiFI (all channels I watch), etc went live, and knowing it would be forever, if ever, that I'd get these thru cable....the choice for me was easy.

That, and of course, less $ per month. After my promo pricing ends, my bill will be within a couple of bucks of what Comcast cost me when I left. Except, I get more programming, and service includes HBO (adding HBO made cable over $100/mo.)

If anything, the defections Comcast is surely going thru now should light a fire under them to concentrate on getting more competitive in the HD market, as opposed to pushing triple-play bundles. I hope it does for those who stay loyal. D*'s HD barrage is good for everyone in the long run. Would be nice to see this change to "Here's all the NEW HD channels on Comcast" thread.

mexican-bum
10-18-07, 04:01 PM
I agree, Directv getting tons of HD will benefit everyone, even comcast as hard as it is to believe

jwebb1970
10-18-07, 04:16 PM
I understand that people are going to switch to D for what ever reason and I have no problem with that but now that your gone why are you still coming into a Comcast thread? The Title is "What's the next HD channel for Comcast?"......

Will continue to check the thread out to see what may have been added, just out of curiousity.

As I said last post, D*'s HD additions will benefit everyone by letting cable know it's time to get it's collective act together to compete.

If Comcast carried all this HD and did so at a reasonable price, I'd have stayed.

bicker1
10-18-07, 04:18 PM
Really the only non sports show I watch is mythbusters.Is Mythbusters in HD? (Though, by the time there are new episodes of Mythbusters, Comcast might have it in HD too.... so that doesn't matter...)

Sounds like you would do pretty good with nothing but an OTA antenna;)This time of year, yeah, except that Fox HD is low-power, here in Boston, so we don't get reliable reception, despite being only 14 miles from the antenna. However, summer time, we absolutely need USA Network and TNT (both of which Comcast will be providing in HD by next summer).

mexican-bum
10-18-07, 04:21 PM
Is Mythbusters in HD? (Though, by the time there are new episodes of Mythbusters, Comcast might have it in HD too.... so that doesn't matter...)

This time of year, yeah, except that Fox HD is low-power, here in Boston, so we don't get reliable reception, despite being only 14 miles from the antenna. However, summer time, we absolutely need USA Network and TNT (both of which Comcast will be providing in HD by next summer).

Yes the newer mythbusters are, the old ones are upconverts

bicker1
10-18-07, 04:21 PM
OnDemand was, for me, the major reason I stayed with them as long as I did.Oh yeah... cannot live without AMC in HD. Mad Men is excellent.

apmusicman
10-18-07, 05:24 PM
I'm curious to know...

I live in Utah and get all the major networks and several PBS channels in HD but not the CW in HD. The CW is broadcast on it's own channel here (not a sub) but for whatever reason, Comcast is dragging it's feet when it comes to adding it to the lineup in Utah.

So, I'd like to know if anybody has a rough estimate of how many markets actually have CW HD. In reading through these threads, I have to believe that most markets do. And while Salt Lake isn't a huge market, it's still a decent size. I would have expected Comcast to at least offer the major channels in HD in most major markets.

bicker1
10-18-07, 05:34 PM
You can get a lot of information regard that sort of thing from this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=164671

You'll have to do the counting and the math yourself, though...

bicker1
10-18-07, 05:52 PM
Interesting:

http://www.tvpredictions.com/dprices101807.htm

Does this mean that Comcast can do the same, and therefore the long-standing log-jam between Comcast and Cuban's HDNet can be put to bed?

jwebb1970
10-18-07, 05:58 PM
I'm curious to know...

I live in Utah and get all the major networks and several PBS channels in HD but not the CW in HD. The CW is broadcast on it's own channel here (not a sub) but for whatever reason, Comcast is dragging it's feet when it comes to adding it to the lineup in Utah.

So, I'd like to know if anybody has a rough estimate of how many markets actually have CW HD. In reading through these threads, I have to believe that most markets do. And while Salt Lake isn't a huge market, it's still a decent size. I would have expected Comcast to at least offer the major channels in HD in most major markets.

Fresno, CA Comcast market carries the local CW affiliate (KFRE 59) HD signal (ch 905).

Actually lived w/o the local FOX station's HD for about 1.5 yrs in Fresno. The station (KMPH 26) had gone HD OTA, but took forever for Comcast and the station's ownership to come to some sort of carriage agreement.

The last year that FOX carried the SUPER BOWL, Comcast ran ads apologizing for the fact that Comcast subs would not be getting FOX HD before that time.

Then, one day it magically appeared!

bob2274
10-18-07, 06:01 PM
Not sure how much national attention it got but did you hear that Dollar Bill Wirtz passed away a couple weeks ago? Rocky Wirtz is running the show now and the talk is that Hawk home games will be on TV real soon now. Talk of maybe towards the end of this year and if not most likely next year for sure. Still holding my breath but there is a change in the air.

Yeah, that's why I made the inside snip. I read in The Hockey News that they aren't going to show the home games anytime soon out of respect for Bill, but I can't see them holding out like this anymore with new people in charge. Out of five sports teams in Chicago, the Blackhawks are the only team that doesn't have every game on TV, and they are also the least popular. What makes it even worse, Comcast SportsNet only shows home games in HD (just like our CSN channel here), so Chicago can't see any Blackhawks games in HD because the management of the team is still stuck in the 1970's.

maxman
10-18-07, 07:09 PM
Made the Comcast to D* switch last week. Even with the $199 up front for the HDDVR....it was still the best entertainment decision I've made in a long time! More HD programming for less $$. (Did get the $100 off rebate and $50 Visa Gift Card newbie promos, so the $200 hurt a lot less).

See ya, Comcast!

Let us know how you make out, please. Many of us here are anxious for first-hand info.

Rammitinski
10-18-07, 07:17 PM
I read in The Hockey News that they aren't going to show the home games anytime soon out of respect for Bill..Now if that ain't the downright, stupidest reason I've ever heard....:rolleyes:

bob2274
10-18-07, 09:19 PM
The whole notion of not showing home games on TV seems stupid to me, but I guess they didn't want to schedule a bunch of home games on CSN as soon as the memorial service is over. I can understand that.

Back to the subject of the thread- the next HD channel for Comcast is NHL Network HD. I have no solid evidence of this, just a feeling.

donn35
10-18-07, 11:17 PM
So how happy are you with your new provider? Can we get a full report?






History Channel HD looks good & I enjoy watching the Science Channel HD & Animal Planet HD on my 60-inch Sony 1080p HDTV; their pictures in high definition are awesome. More HD content to choose from & to watch so thank you very much Direct TV.

donn35
10-18-07, 11:50 PM
I understand that people are going to switch to D for what ever reason and I have no problem with that but now that your gone why are you still coming into a Comcast thread? The Title is "What's the next HD channel for Comcast?"......





Renagade, you don't have to worry about me posting any messages on the Comcast thread because I could care less about Comcast. Why should I keep paying close to $110 per month & not getting what I want. Dude, don't get upset with me or anyone else for that matter that switched to satellite, take it out on Comcast. The cable operators have known since early this year that Direct Tv & Dish Network was adding a large quantity of HD channels in the fall 2007 & they weren't making no effort to add those channels in hopes of keeping their customers.
I live in the Chicago area, where this past summer they removed close to 40 analog channels & switched them to digital to make plenty of room for new HD channels; however I did received A&E, National Geographic, Food Network, HGTV, NFL Network, & most recently TBS, I was still waiting for more to be added. TBS HD was added due to the MLB playoffs & everyone was probably requesting it & I just got tired of constantly talking to a customer service rep that doesn't tell you anything.

Thank you & good-bye!

schoolyard
10-18-07, 11:59 PM
I am in SF. bay area and comcast said in local paper that it will add 4 new hd channels by mid Nov. we were not told what they would be yet.As far as sports here there is one FSN-HD channel and another SD channel.The Warriors and Sharks share these channels in winter and also A's and Giants share in summer.Hard to believe only 30 Warrior games are in hd,even though fsn broadcasts 80 games and only 25 Sharks games in hd.Everytime there is anything about comcast in papers they get ripped by cust.left and right.They just raised the rates of people who don't subscribe to all of there packages.If you have all 3 no rate hike,if not 5% hike,talk about bad business.

Ken H
10-19-07, 12:22 AM
Interesting:

http://www.tvpredictions.com/dprices101807.htm

Does this mean that Comcast can do the same, and therefore the long-standing log-jam between Comcast and Cuban's HDNet can be put to bed?I think it's unlikely.

DirecTV has always charged extra for HD. The addition of a second tier of HD for an additional cost does not seem to me like much of a change.

Comcast has never charged for HD; all HD is included with the Digital Basic tier or better, except for premiums. If they did start to charge for HD in a separate tier it would be in direct contradiction to Mr. Roberts previous comments on the issue.

Marcus Carr
10-19-07, 12:28 AM
The one exception being HDNet on Comcast in Houston. Looks like that won't be happening anywhere else.

theguest
10-19-07, 02:25 AM
Now if that ain't the downright, stupidest reason I've ever heard....:rolleyes:


I guessing it's more about contracts or other things that had to be done earlier. I had heard they were planning to have part of the end of the season on

chuckywang
10-19-07, 02:42 AM
I think it's unlikely.

DirecTV has always charged extra for HD. The addition of a second tier of HD for an additional cost does not seem to me like much of a change.

Comcast has never charged for HD; all HD is included with the Digital Basic tier or better, except for premiums. If they did start to charge for HD in a separate tier it would be in direct contradiction to Mr. Roberts previous comments on the issue.

However Comcast does charge a $7 monthly HD equipment rental fee for the digital receiver.

GoIrish
10-19-07, 06:06 AM
However Comcast does charge a $7 monthly HD equipment rental fee for the digital receiver.


All their box charges, including HD, are regulated. They can only recover the initial cost and upkeep of the box over it's depreciable life. They can't and don't recover programming fees through box charges.

GoIrish

maxman
10-19-07, 08:42 AM
USA-HD, History Channel HD, more coming to Houston this Friday:

http://consumerblog.abc13.com/2007/10/changes-to-comc.html

chrisgeleven
10-19-07, 09:53 AM
USA-HD, History Channel HD, more coming to Houston this Friday:

http://consumerblog.abc13.com/2007/10/changes-to-comc.html

That should mean that the Boston area will get USA and History Channel too. We are almost always first in getting new HD channels.

hdtvjunkie247
10-19-07, 10:20 AM
Any word on the following in NJ?:

A&E HD (for Northern/Central NJ systems)
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
History HD
CNN HD
USA HD

I'd love to have USA HD, Food Network HD & HGTV HD.

bob2274
10-19-07, 02:33 PM
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6492776.html

Has anyone seen "TEAMHD" appear up by the MLB/NHL channels? It looks like this just may be appearing soon with no hype. It's being thrown up there by iNDemand with packages Comcast already carries.

jefbal99
10-19-07, 02:35 PM
http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6492776.html

Has anyone seen "TEAMHD" appear up by the MLB/NHL channels? It looks like this just may be appearing soon with no hype. It's being thrown up there by iNDemand with packages Comcast already carries.

GameHD and Team HD have existed for atleast 2 or 3 years, not sure how they are just being launched. Some MSOs carry them, others don't. I begged Comcast for the last year to added GameHD, but they never would.

maxman
10-19-07, 02:54 PM
That should mean that the Boston area will get USA and History Channel too. We are almost always first in getting new HD channels.

And we're almost last here in S. Jersey. Still don't have Food or HGTV yet.

sansri88
10-19-07, 03:23 PM
And we're almost last here in S. Jersey. Still don't have Food or HGTV yet.

Stop complaining, we don't even have AEHD yet...

I have a strong feeling that we'll see a whole bunch either by mid-November or by the end of the year.

LondonCalling
10-19-07, 03:50 PM
Still no TBS-HD in South Central PA. As of my latest call, no updates for any additional channels to be added this year.

Bananko
10-19-07, 03:58 PM
Sacramento seems to be the last Comcast market to get anything. :(

After all, while the rest of you got ESPN2-HD and certain other HD channels in mid 2006, we only got them in March 2007. And no, we still haven't gotten any new HD channels since then. :mad:

sansri88
10-19-07, 04:25 PM
Sacramento seems to be the last Comcast market to get anything. :(

After all, while the rest of you got ESPN2-HD and certain other HD channels in mid 2006, we only got them in March 2007. And no, we still haven't gotten any new HD channels since then. :mad:

You guys have SET Asia? Part of the international channel section? If you do, then that's worth more to me then HD channels right now. Indian Idol ftw!

but yeah, sucks for you that you haven't gotten anything new since ESPN2 HD, which we've had for AGES.

bob2274
10-19-07, 06:11 PM
GameHD and Team HD have existed for atleast 2 or 3 years, not sure how they are just being launched. Some MSOs carry them, others don't. I begged Comcast for the last year to added GameHD, but they never would.

That's what I thought too, but this article made it sound like the HD channel would now be made part of the sports packages at no extra charge, and just added in to the signals provided to the cable companies with the other channels.

jefbal99
10-19-07, 06:51 PM
That's what I thought too, but this article made it sound like the HD channel would now be made part of the sports packages at no extra charge, and just added in to the signals provided to the cable companies with the other channels.

It still has to be carried by a MSO. Comcast in Delaware had this last year and the HDPPV alternated days for NHL CI and NBA LP, with UFC and boxing mixed in. The document for MLB EI that went out to MSOs from InDemand made note of the Game HD channel, what satellite and tp it was on.

it will still be up to each system to carry it

bob2274
10-19-07, 07:33 PM
Yes, I was the one that pointed it out to you that they carried HD PPV in Delaware.

I looks like though, that the HD signal had been provided if the cable companies had a channel to put the games on. It looks like now the channel will be provided to them. I'm still keeping the faith. NHL Network showed up last week, and I still expect to see GAMEHD.

sansri88
10-19-07, 07:48 PM
Any word on the following in NJ?:

A&E HD (for Northern/Central NJ systems)
HGTV HD
Food Network HD
History HD
CNN HD
USA HD

I'd love to have USA HD, Food Network HD & HGTV HD.

Don't worry, they will come soon enough. As I've said before, probably not until November or December till we see most, if not all of these channels.

maxman
10-19-07, 08:02 PM
Stop complaining, we don't even have AEHD yet...

It's every man for himself sansri! :D

sansri88
10-19-07, 08:04 PM
It's every man for himself sansri! :D

LOL! Yeah, hopefully my sources in Comcast of Union can fill me in on any upcoming changes soon. I know we have the PPV channels between 196-198 being removed. It doesn't free up any bandwidth, but it does free up channel numbers. I do remember seeing some places having HD channels in that range, so we could get some 11/15, when those channels are deleted.

clfnole
10-19-07, 11:15 PM
Anyone have any idea as to why Comcast doesn't carry ESPNU? They have every other ESPN channel and will even add ESPN-NEWS HD. What's the scope with this?

BigDaddyRoy
10-20-07, 12:04 AM
Anyone have any idea as to why Comcast doesn't carry ESPNU? They have every other ESPN channel and will even add ESPN-NEWS HD. What's the scope with this?

clfnole, if I remember correctly, off the top of my head, the deal was / is that ESPN/Disney wants Comcast to carry ESPNU only on the analog / basic tier. Comcast wants to add it, but on either digital enhanced or even under their "Sports Tier" add on. So, last I heard, that was the sticking point. ESPN/Disney makes more per sub if it's under a basic then on digital enhanced, and way more than if it was on a pay per tier. Comcast, it seems & logic would dictate, wants less analog / basic channels nowadays, not more.

Again, I remember reading this before, but it may not be the gospel truth.

hdtvjunkie247
10-20-07, 07:15 AM
You are correct in regards to ESPN U. ESPN/Disney wants Comcast to put the channel in a basic package while Comcast wants to put the channel in their Sports Entertainment Package.

So until the two sides can come to some sort of agreement, I wouldn't expect to see ESPN U.

clfnole
10-20-07, 10:18 AM
I can understand Disney wanting more money but analog channels will soon be a thing of the past.

chitchatjf
10-20-07, 05:37 PM
You are correct in regards to ESPN U. ESPN/Disney wants Comcast to put the channel in a basic package while Comcast wants to put the channel in their Sports Entertainment Package.

So until the two sides can come to some sort of agreement, I wouldn't expect to see ESPN U.

That sounds right,but I assume digital Starter would be acceptable. OTOH if ESPNU became part of digital starter CSTV and the FCS channels would also want Digital Starter coverage.

hybucket
10-20-07, 05:45 PM
Anyone heard anything about Comcast getting SciFi HD?

bubba5
10-20-07, 07:58 PM
Stop complaining, we don't even have AEHD yet...

I have a strong feeling that we'll see a whole bunch either by mid-November or by the end of the year.

Whatever! I remember someone posted last year that we would have between 36-40 HD channels in one year.

bubba5
10-20-07, 07:59 PM
Anyone have any idea as to why Comcast doesn't carry ESPNU? They have every other ESPN channel and will even add ESPN-NEWS HD. What's the scope with this?

CSTV is better!

bob2274
10-20-07, 11:12 PM
CSTV is better!

We always seem to want what we can't get...I know I'm guilty of it!

The only thing CSTV doesn't have is the constant plugs on ESPN. I agree it's a good channel, and ESPN U should be on the sports tier next to it.

commodore_dude
10-20-07, 11:21 PM
CSTV would be great if we had it in Atlanta :(

I've emailed them so many times about this without ever getting a competent explanation...

sansri88
10-20-07, 11:27 PM
Whatever! I remember someone posted last year that we would have between 36-40 HD channels in one year.

Hah! Whoever posted that had no clue what the hell they were talking about.

But I'm serious, we should have these almost definitely by the end of the year. Meri told me to expect more HD by November/December, and a few more HD in January. No specifics though

JamesDax
10-21-07, 11:43 AM
Anyone heard anything about Comcast getting SciFi HD?

I too am VERY intrested in finding out if Comcast will be adding Sci-Fi HD anytime soon. In December we have the mini-series Tin Man coming and BSG is coming early next year. I'd love to see both of these in HD.

COME ON COMCAST!!!

Addicted2HD4Now
10-21-07, 07:32 PM
Hah! Whoever posted that had no clue what the hell they were talking about.

But I'm serious, we should have these almost definitely by the end of the year. Meri told me to expect more HD by November/December, and a few more HD in January. No specifics though

IIRC, it was someone who knows what they're talking about and it was a direct quote of a Comcast executive.

Bananko
10-21-07, 07:47 PM
IIRC, it was someone who knows what they're talking about and it was a direct quote of a Comcast executive.

Does that person consider the HD selections in On Demand as "HD channels", or was that person referring to the upcoming Switched Digital Video? :confused: