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bob2274
09-25-08, 08:28 PM
The last couple of pages of this thread have made me realize- Comcast requiring set top boxes= bad, money grubbing. Verizon requiring boxes for each set= the best idea ever.

There is a Verizon line running along the alley next to my house. I had no idea what I was missing out on. They can absolutely do nothing wrong!

sansri88
09-25-08, 08:55 PM
"Comcast requiring set top boxes= bad, money grubbing. "

You won't see some of us HD subs in NJ complaining. I wouldn't mind getting boxes for all my TVs if it means going all digital, better PQ, more HD channels, and DOCSIS 3.0

Daniel Murray
09-25-08, 09:02 PM
"Comcast requiring set top boxes= bad, money grubbing. "

You won't see some of us HD subs in NJ complaining. I wouldn't mind getting boxes for all my TVs if it means going all digital, better PQ, more HD channels, and DOCSIS 3.0

Good Luck with that:eek:

bob2274
09-25-08, 09:11 PM
I'm fortunate enough to have a Comcast system with an all digital simulcast, so I have boxes for all my sets. I agree though, all digital is the only way to go if we want more HD.

Marcus Carr
09-26-08, 02:46 AM
NFL HD will be added in Baltimore on 10/1.

bicker1
09-26-08, 05:41 AM
No, it's offered in quite a few places in NNJ.Verizon is cherry-picking which parts of town they're offering service in first.

bicker1
09-26-08, 05:42 AM
The last couple of pages of this thread have made me realize- Comcast requiring set top boxes= bad, money grubbing. Verizon requiring boxes for each set= the best idea ever.

There is a Verizon line running along the alley next to my house. I had no idea what I was missing out on. They can absolutely do nothing wrong!Hahahahaha! :D

Doom878
09-26-08, 08:26 AM
Goodbye Comcast. I just switched to D* yesterday. The inconsistency of what market got what channels really pissed me off. Maybe I'll consider them again if their infrastructure ever gets up to date (next decade maybe?). I still carry their internet and VOIP (on life support as I will go all cell soon) so I can't send them to hell. D* even connected service to my daughter's room which Comcast wanted to charge me for. I'll still monitor this thread as it is informative. :)

MRM4
09-26-08, 08:54 AM
Goodbye Comcast. I just switched to D* yesterday. The inconsistency of what market got what channels really pissed me off. Maybe I'll consider them again if their infrastructure ever gets up to date (next decade maybe?). I still carry their internet and VOIP (on life support as I will go all cell soon) so I can't send them to hell. D* even connected service to my daughter's room which Comcast wanted to charge me for. I'll still monitor this thread as it is informative. :)

Another dissatisfied Comcast customer.

I made that same switch back in June and haven't looked back. Someone I work with informed me Comcast was adding several more HD channels in our town soon, several of which are ones I had been wanting for some time. But they are 4 months too late. Like you said, maybe they'll get their act together someday.

Doom878
09-26-08, 10:09 AM
Oh and to add salt to the wound, Comcast's website is horrible. I was able to get the info I needed on D*'s in a few clicks.

Lodef
09-26-08, 10:21 AM
Another dissatisfied Comcast customer.

I made that same switch back in June and haven't looked back. Someone I work with informed me Comcast was adding several more HD channels in our town soon, several of which are ones I had been wanting for some time. But they are 4 months too late. Like you said, maybe they'll get their act together someday.

Well the Boston and Chicago markets are right up there with FIOS. I'm sure Comcast will try and implement that strategy to the rest of their system, but considering how large this company is, it will be both time consuming and expensive which will result in many areas being upgraded before others and for those that are in the latter, that maybe too long for some to wait.

Doom878
09-26-08, 10:23 AM
The above is true and I considered that but it seems our market is on the backburner. Also when a new channel gets announced like ESPNewsHD for example, how long will it take to filter down to my market? I'm hoping all the HBO's to match Dish's premier HD.

keenan
09-26-08, 01:06 PM
Verizon is cherry-picking which parts of town they're offering service in first.

AT&T U-verse seems to do pretty much the same thing, these companies are playing by a different set of rules than your legacy cable companies.

gakon
09-26-08, 03:32 PM
Cherry picking is a business decision, just like the decisions Comcast makes. In fact, once could argue that it's exactly the same, in that Comcast chooses which systems to provide additional content.

bicker1
09-26-08, 03:46 PM
Cherry-picking is definitely the business' decision -- though, as keenan points out, the legacy cable companies are not granted that freedom. They have rules imposed on them requiring offering of service to every residence in town without exception. So while it should be the business' decision, often it isn't, and that's a shame.

b_scott
09-26-08, 04:03 PM
Another dissatisfied Comcast customer.

I made that same switch back in June and haven't looked back. Someone I work with informed me Comcast was adding several more HD channels in our town soon, several of which are ones I had been wanting for some time. But they are 4 months too late. Like you said, maybe they'll get their act together someday.

i'd do FIOS if i didn't live in Chicago. they won't install it here.

i love my TivoHD and i live in an apartment so i can't do DTV or D*. can I ask what internet provider you use?

chitchatjf
09-26-08, 04:03 PM
Well the Boston and Chicago markets are right up there with FIOS. I'm sure Comcast will try and implement that strategy to the rest of their system, but considering how large this company is, it will be both time consuming and expensive which will result in many areas being upgraded before others and for those that are in the latter, that maybe too long for some to wait.

The city perhaps but Boston's suburbus are still way behind Verizon come to think of it Boston too.

Premium HD channels:
Boston :11
Boston's suburbs: 6
Fios: 42!

Marcus Carr
09-26-08, 05:51 PM
NFL Network HD was added today in Baltimore.

Lodef
09-26-08, 05:53 PM
The city perhaps but Boston's suburbus are still way behind Verizon come to think of it Boston too.

Premium HD channels:
Boston :11
Boston's suburbs: 6
Fios: 42!

Chitchat you know I'm talking about Boston proper and I'm pretty sure they have more than 11 HD channels because thats what were discussing, not just premium ones.

Daniel Murray
09-26-08, 07:17 PM
act together someday.
I bin waiting for that to happen now for 14 years on the garden state cable system.
My wife asked me to hold off from switching till Jan of 2009. Just to make sure comcast dose give us some new channles. Or if Fios come online in my town then I can switch then. I jast have to waite till Jan 2009 then I will go to D*.

Ken H
09-26-08, 08:37 PM
Cherry picking is a business decision, just like the decisions Comcast makes. In fact, once could argue that it's exactly the same, in that Comcast chooses which systems to provide additional content.
Not exactly, in that many of Comcast's systems are legacy acquisitions which require expensive infrastructure upgrades before more bandwidth is available.

HDfaninSac
09-28-08, 02:18 AM
When will Comcast in Sacramento, CA and Roseville, CA add more HD?

babrown92
09-28-08, 02:51 AM
When will Comcast in Sacramento, CA and Roseville, CA add more HD?


Oct. 18th.

HDfaninSac
09-28-08, 05:22 AM
Oct. 18th.

Which ones?

ghudson666
09-30-08, 08:32 AM
I have not checked this thread in a long time and it is sad to see that things have not really changed. Comcast is still avoiding many areas of the country and hands out HD channels with no rhyme or reason as to who gets what and when. I cannot believe I just read on a previous page that somebody just posted they finally got the NFL HD channel.

The Richmond, VA area just got three new HD channels yesterday, FX HD, Fox News HD and the Speed Channel HD. I could care less about the last two but I have been waiting a long time for the FX HD channel. I think that nows gives us about 37 HD channels [including premium pay HD channels]. Comcast keeps stringing me along which is why I still have them even though I signed a 2 year contract last year that was too good to pass up.

bicker1
09-30-08, 08:54 AM
I think you're a bit off-target. Comcast isn't avoiding areas of the country, but rather prioritizing other areas of the country, so as to best use their available resources. And there is almost surely "rhyme" and "reason" for who gets what and when -- it is just that consumers who don't get what they want will either ignore the "rhyme" and "reason" that are evident, or reject them.

You really highlighted the evidence of "rhyme" and "reason": They provide enough where needed to keep enough of the customers that are worth keeping. As you said, "too good to pass up".

Also, remember that Comcast is under FCC scrutiny because some feel that they have too many subscribers, so basically these officials are driving Comcast to find ways to reduce their total subscriber base, hopefully (from their standpoint) getting rid of customers who don't want to spend a lot of money in favor of those who do.

Beyond that, at this point, it doesn't look like enough people are willing to pay that much extra for extra HD channels. DirecTV, which has many HD channels, doesn't really get more per month from each subscriber for their efforts in this regard. Until the subscriber base really makes this so much of a priority that they're willing to reward the suppliers with more HD channels with significantly more money per month, little will change, at least as long as Comcast's total subscriber base is still under scrutiny by the FCC.

Doom878
09-30-08, 10:25 AM
That explains why Chicago and Boston have the most channels. Major markets.

MRM4
09-30-08, 10:29 AM
i'd do FIOS if i didn't live in Chicago. they won't install it here.

i love my TivoHD and i live in an apartment so i can't do DTV or D*. can I ask what internet provider you use?

I stayed with Comcast for my ISP. I can't complain about their service there.

sansri88
09-30-08, 11:13 AM
That explains why Chicago and Boston have the most channels. Major markets.

Our system is a major market, with over 250k subs.

And yet we have one of the smallest HD lineups out of everyone.

Daniel Murray
09-30-08, 11:32 AM
Our system is a major market, with over 250k subs.

And yet we have one of the smallest HD lineups out of everyone.

I AM WITH YOU :eek:

aindik
09-30-08, 11:48 AM
Our system is a major market, with over 250k subs.

And yet we have one of the smallest HD lineups out of everyone.

I live in Comcast's home town, which is also a major market.

From the OP, we still don't have:
Discovery HD
Sci-Fi HD
USA HD
Fox Business Channel HD
NHL Network HD
MGM HD
Fox News Channel HD
Speed HD
FX HD
WGN HD
Weather Channel HD
The Movie Channel HD
Showtime 2 HD
FUSE HD
Bravo HD
CNBC+ HD
Biography HD
IFC HD
WE HD
QVC HD
NBA TV HD
Encore HD
ESPNews HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
Big Ten Network HD
Toon Disney HD
Starz Edge HD
Starz Kids & Family HD
Starz Comedy HD
HDNet
HDNet Movies

The one that annoys me most was USA-HD. I wanted to watch their Olympic coverage and their U.S. Open Tennis coverage in HD.

(BTW, for the OP, the channel formerly known as "MHD" is now called "Palladia," effective 9/1 I think).

jrusnak
09-30-08, 12:35 PM
I AM WITH YOU :eek:

Same here. Bicker's comments don't really hold much water. NJ is the most denselt populated state in the country. Yet Comcast only offers about 20 HD channels! We never even got FOOD or HGTV! (Two channels I could care less about, but even other areas that also HD-starved via Comcast get those!)

The fact that they do have the bandwidth to add channels but won't...and yet still raise their rates annually, merely demonstrates their incredible disregard for their subscribers.

URFloorMatt
09-30-08, 12:48 PM
Wasn't Comcast's New Jersey acquisition a result of the Adelphia takeover? Most Adelphia systems had been seriously neglected as I recall, and the benefits of an upgrade are exceedingly marginal given the cost.

This is particularly true for a company looking to unload some subscribers and in direct competition with DirecTV and FiOS (the latter having established a presence throughout the entire state), both of which would offer twice as many HD channels even if Comcast spent the money to turn New Jersey into one of its leading markets.

I suspect Comcast subscribers in New Jersey will be waiting a very, very long time for major system upgrades.

Daniel Murray
09-30-08, 01:04 PM
same here. Bicker's comments don't really hold much water. Nj is the most denselt populated state in the country. Yet comcast only offers about 20 hd channels! We never even got food or hgtv! (two channels i could care less about, but even other areas that also hd-starved via comcast get those!)

the fact that they do have the bandwidth to add channels but won't...and yet still raise their rates annually, merely demonstrates their incredible disregard for their subscribers.

you said it very well!

sansri88
09-30-08, 01:08 PM
No, we were not an Adelphia area.

Suburban Cablevision here. I think it was Comcast that upgraded us to 750Mhz in 1998..not quite sure.

Daniel Murray
09-30-08, 01:16 PM
I suspect Comcast subscribers in New Jersey will be waiting a very, very long time for major system upgrades.

I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE GARDEN STATE SYSTEM OF COMCAST WILL NOT GET OR SEE ANY UPGRADES FOR AT LEAST TWO TO THREE YEARS.:mad:

FIOS HAS THE LINES RUN DOWN THE MAIN ROADS IN MY TOWN. BUT THEY HAVE NOT GONE IN TO THE DEVELOPMENTS. THE REASONING IS MY TOWN WANTS VERIZON TO PAY THEM FOR COMMING INTO THE DEVRLOPMENTS. THEY WANT $500,000 FOR EACH DELEVOPMENTS.
SO I GUSS I WILL NOT SEE FIOS ANY TIME SOON.

Daniel Murray
09-30-08, 01:18 PM
Sorry for the large caps my key board will not let me set them to small caps.

Daniel Murray
09-30-08, 01:19 PM
I guss it did. I am back to small caps.

ghudson666
09-30-08, 01:47 PM
Can anybody list or provide a link that states what Comcast market has the most HD channels are which HD channels Comcast is providing them? Thanks!

nakedeye
09-30-08, 01:47 PM
I live in Comcast's home town, which is also a major market.

From the OP, we still don't have:
Discovery HD
Animal Planet HD
Sci-Fi HD
USA HD
The Science Channel HD
Cinemax HD
Fox Business Channel HD
NHL Network HD
MGM HD
Fox News Channel HD
Speed HD
FX HD
WGN HD
Weather Channel HD
The Movie Channel HD
Showtime 2 HD
FUSE HD
Bravo HD
CNBC+ HD
Biography HD
IFC HD
WE HD
QVC HD
NBA TV HD
Encore HD
ESPNews HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
Big Ten Network HD
Toon Disney HD
Starz Edge HD
Starz Kids & Family HD
Starz Comedy HD
HDNet
HDNet Movies

The one that annoys me most was USA-HD. I wanted to watch their Olympic coverage and their U.S. Open Tennis coverage in HD.

(BTW, for the OP, the channel formerly known as "MHD" is now called "Palladia," effective 9/1 I think).


Actualy we do have Animal Planet and Science, but you are still pretty close

tamahome02000
09-30-08, 01:53 PM
It's funny, NJ is one of the few places Comcast is trying out switched video too. Not in my area though. No Animal Planet or Science here.

deuce1973
09-30-08, 03:20 PM
Comcast in Savannah, GA added these channels to the HD tier just this week.
Cartoon Network HD - forgot the channel, maybe 448
ESPNews HD - 449
MGM HD 460

Also recently added was Fuse, WE, IFC, Speed, and FX. All around the 450 range.

Morac
09-30-08, 03:27 PM
It's funny, NJ is one of the few places Comcast is trying out switched video too. Not in my area though. No Animal Planet or Science here.

The system that they are testing SDV, Cherry Hill, actually has lower amount of HD channels than most other areas in NJ. I'm not sure why that is.

bicker1
09-30-08, 04:28 PM
Same here. Bicker's comments don't really hold much water. NJ is the most denselt populated state in the country.I didn't say what you were responding to (major markets). Doom878 said that.

My comments most certainly "hold water". Comcast is prioritizing other areas of the country, as I said (and folks mentioned a couple, Boston and Chicago, for starters). They are most surely making use of their available resources in their best interest. There is a reason why they do what they do. The FCC has admonished Comcast with regard to its large overall number of subscribers. DirecTV does not get to charge more than Comcast due to their additional HD channels.

All true -- all "hold water".

The fact that they do have the bandwidth to add channels but won't...and yet still raise their rates annually, merely demonstrates their incredible disregard for their subscribers.Rather, they simply regard other subscribers more than you. Perhas the disparity is attributable to things that you don't care about.

bicker1
09-30-08, 04:31 PM
THE REASONING IS MY TOWN WANTS VERIZON TO PAY THEM FOR COMMING INTO THE DEVRLOPMENTS. So basically, on your behalf, your town is making servicing you as a customer totally unpalatable to business. No wonder why Comcast (and now FiOS) treats you so poorly.

Throw the bums out, and get some television-friendly people on your town board.

b_scott
09-30-08, 04:35 PM
comcast is running a special on Showtime for $4.99 a month ala carte right now. i want HBO too but i won't pay the asking price of $16.99/month.

keenan
09-30-08, 04:47 PM
comcast is running a special on Showtime for $4.99 a month ala carte right now. i want HBO too but i won't pay the asking price of $16.99/month.

As this is likely a Showtime promotion, not all Comcast systems may have the deal, just like not all Comcast systems will honor a free preview weekend from HBO or SHO when those happen to come around.

b_scott
09-30-08, 04:56 PM
oh. ok. it was on their site so i figured it was nationwide, sorry.

aindik
09-30-08, 05:00 PM
Actualy we do have Animal Planet and Science, but you are still pretty close

Ack. You're right about Animal Planet. Post edited. What channel is Discovery Science on?

keenan
09-30-08, 05:02 PM
oh. ok. it was on their site so i figured it was nationwide, sorry.

It could be, I'm just saying it's best to check your individual system as quite often it is not a nationwide promotion.

To be clear, the Showtime promo is nationwide(from Showtime themselves), but not all Comcast systems may honor it. :)

QZ1
09-30-08, 05:22 PM
I live in Comcast's home town, which is also a major market.

From the OP, we still don't have:
Cinemax HD
Cinemax HD is available, and has been for at least 4 years here.

QZ1
09-30-08, 05:23 PM
That explains why Chicago and Boston have the most channels. Major markets.
No, it is because Comcast dropped Analog Expd. Basic in those markets, and now have much free bandwith.;)

johnovox
09-30-08, 05:44 PM
Comcast in Savannah, GA added these channels to the HD tier just this week.
Cartoon Network HD - forgot the channel, maybe 448
ESPNews HD - 449
MGM HD 460

Also recently added was Fuse, WE, IFC, Speed, and FX. All around the 450 range.

Great news. I am really hoping they add Cartoon HD in the Boston area this week given the Star Wars series premiere.

sansri88
09-30-08, 07:04 PM
If I remember correctly someone told me at least 50% of the subs on our system have at least one digital box...

Which begs the question why are they reluctant to move analog to digital?

nakedeye
09-30-08, 07:16 PM
Ack. You're right about Animal Planet. Post edited. What channel is Discovery Science on?

Umm 197 i think? It's not in the 200's

aindik
09-30-08, 07:18 PM
Cinemax HD is available, and has been for at least 4 years here.

Right you are. Edited again.

Daniel Murray
09-30-08, 07:29 PM
The system that they are testing SDV, Cherry Hill, actually has lower amount of HD channels than most other areas in NJ. I'm not sure why that is.

This is the Garden State System. I was told that the system is to old and will cost to much for Comcast to fix or up grade:mad:

Daniel Murray
09-30-08, 07:34 PM
So basically, on your behalf, your town is making servicing you as a customer totally unpalatable to business. No wonder why Comcast (and now FiOS) treats you so poorly.

Throw the bums out, and get some television-friendly people on your town board.

Trust me we have and are voting out the dead beats in Eastampton NJ. This town is pay to play and scrue the Home owners just like the state house.
Sad because it is so nice here.

jrcorwin
09-30-08, 07:57 PM
Central Indiana customers (former Insight customers) got TBS-HD today.

keithbart
09-30-08, 11:09 PM
Good news! I have spoke with Maria, a customer service representative and she told me that Comcast will add the following HD channels by the end of September, including some surprises: Lifetime Channel (228), Lifetime Movie Network (229), ESPNews (231), Travel Channel (277), Toon Disney (283), MGM (284), & Fearnet (285). She didn't give an exact date when these channels will be launched but they will be added by the end of this month.


donn35, Did you get these channels yet?

bob2274
10-01-08, 01:43 AM
If I remember correctly someone told me at least 50% of the subs on our system have at least one digital box...

Which begs the question why are they reluctant to move analog to digital?

Because 50% don't have a box. Even if they gave the boxes for free though, a lot of people still wouldn't be happy. People on this thread even complain when channels are moved from analog to digital. Comcast is moving along, but they seem to be transitioning channels very slowly in most markets to keep it safe.

Daniel Murray
10-01-08, 07:11 AM
"People on this thread even complain when channels are moved from analog to digital"

That might because Comcast never gives heads up on what they are doing on most NJ systems. if they told us when they move channels it would be so nice to know.

Doom878
10-01-08, 08:26 AM
No, it is because Comcast dropped Analog Expd. Basic in those markets, and now have much free bandwith.;)

Are these the only 2 markets to have had Analog Expd dropped?

bicker1
10-01-08, 08:36 AM
Which begs the question why are they reluctant to move analog to digital?Probably due to the X% (perhaps 70%?) that have at least one analog television directly connected to the coax.

bicker1
10-01-08, 08:37 AM
Trust me we have and are voting out the dead beats in Eastampton NJ.So figure this happens regularly: Folks vote for the pro-business candidates, who proceed to enact pro-business policies, and then folks start complaining about consumer issues, and so they throw the pro-business folks out and elect pro-consumer candidates, and the cycle starts over again.

Renagade
10-01-08, 10:23 AM
Are these the only 2 markets to have had Analog Expd dropped?

I believe as of now, yes but there about to do it in the Detroit market as well. Sometime this month..

jrusnak
10-01-08, 11:10 AM
My comments most certainly "hold water". Comcast is prioritizing other areas of the country, as I said (and folks mentioned a couple, Boston and Chicago, for starters). They are most surely making use of their available resources in their best interest. There is a reason why they do what they do. The FCC has admonished Comcast with regard to its large overall number of subscribers. DirecTV does not get to charge more than Comcast due to their additional HD channels.

All true -- all "hold water".

If there were alternatives to Comcast, believe me they'd have much fewer subscribers, IF that's what they need. But FIOS is not available in most of NJ. Obstructions preclude some others from switching to satellite. And we can't switch to another cable company. If they want fewer subs, maybe they shouldn't have a ton of TV commercials screaming about how they have more HD than anybody! Not to mention other ads and mailings. Funny way to reduce "its large overall number of subscribers." Beside, I don't think adding a few HD channels is going to cause a mass exodus to Comcast service anyway.

Rather, they simply regard other subscribers more than you. Perhas the disparity is attributable to things that you don't care about.

Adding more channels wouldn't affect other subscribers. Right now, they have the capacity to add a few channels without having to remove any analog channels.

bicker1
10-01-08, 12:05 PM
If there were alternatives to Comcast, believe me they'd have much fewer subscribersThere are alternatives to Comcast, and indeed they do have fewer subscribers, though still too many for some people at the FCC's taste. Moreover, as more alternatives come into the marketplace, and the existing alternatives mature, Comcast will respond appropriately. Nothing about today counts for tomorrow. Today counts for today.

If they want fewer subs, maybe they shouldn't have a ton of TV commercials screaming about how they have more HD than anybody! They want to trade low-margin customers for high-margin customers. Everyone who faces a total customers cap would.

Beside, I don't think adding a few HD channels is going to cause a mass exodus to Comcast service anyway.Which implies the relative insignificance of adding a few HD channels. :shrug:

Adding more channels wouldn't affect other subscribers. Right now, they have the capacity to add a few channels without having to remove any analog channels.And here they'll be doing so in good time. I was reading a thread a few hours ago on another website where the poster outlined just how the local government has made it so difficult for FiOS to do business in the town -- you can just imagine how badly the town treats Comcast. It is interesting that so few people choose to investigate why their own situation is the way it is.

QZ1
10-01-08, 12:51 PM
Are these the only 2 markets to have had Analog Expd dropped?

I believe as of now, yes but there about to do it in the Detroit market as well. Sometime this month..
Yes, indeed on Detroit. However, there is another market, it is Calaveras County, CA, and it was changed over three years ago.

QZ1
10-01-08, 12:57 PM
If I remember correctly someone told me at least 50% of the subs on our system have at least one digital box...

Which begs the question why are they reluctant to move analog to digital?

Probably due to the X% (perhaps 70%?) that have at least one analog television directly connected to the coax.
70%? I am thinking it is much higher than that, to have one boxless TV. I agree that is the problem, but at least the more people that have boxes, the more that will be accepting, if not liking, getting more boxes.

sansri88
10-01-08, 02:13 PM
I know that. I have 2 analog TVs and one TV tuner in my computer.

I would rather get DTAs or DCT700s for them than stay analog though.

TomCat4680
10-01-08, 02:26 PM
does anyone here know if the "Digital Doctoring in Detroit" effects Flint customers? I have a link to a story but the forum won't let me put it up.

Doom878
10-01-08, 03:13 PM
Yes, indeed on Detroit. However, there is another market, it is Calaveras County, CA, and it was changed over three years ago.

How's Calaveras' HD selection?

jmallory
10-01-08, 06:41 PM
does anyone here know if the "Digital Doctoring in Detroit" effects Flint customers? I have a link to a story but the forum won't let me put it up.

My understanding is that it is all of Michigan, not just Detroit.

Look here...

www.comcast.com/michigan

TomCat4680
10-02-08, 12:42 AM
that site hasn't been updated since July, Jim. Except the top part which of course doesn't give any specific details because thats against Comcast's modus operandi.

it doesnt tell anything about future channels for any markets, just the changes due to them adding Big Ten Network 2 monthes ago.

jmallory
10-02-08, 06:03 AM
that site hasn't been updated since July, Jim. Except the top part which of course doesn't give any specific details because thats against Comcast's modus operandi.

it doesnt tell anything about future channels for any markets, just the changes due to them adding Big Ten Network 2 monthes ago.

1. That wasn't the question you asked. You asked if Flint was included in the all-digital conversion.

2. The page clearly states that Comcast is doing this on a neighborhood by neighborhood basis. It also states that Comcast will contact you either by mail or phone when they are in your neighborhood. Are you looking for a schedule? If so, they are probably not going to post one but based on my experience with the South Oakland 1 Ghz rebuild...Comcast said they would post a letter at your door on the day before of the neighborhood was being upgraded and that is exactly what they did. If they say they are going to mail or call, they will.

3. I think you could look at Boston's and Chicago's lineup to see what channels should be available once the upgrades are done. I also believe we may see a few additional HD channels before the upgrade (Versus and Golf are being split later in the year, Mojo is converting to a OnDemand channel) but as you point out, Comcast does not announce it until a few days before they go live.

ji0005
10-02-08, 01:55 PM
Good news! I have spoke with Maria, a customer service representative and she told me that Comcast will add the following HD channels by the end of September, including some surprises: Lifetime Channel (228), Lifetime Movie Network (229), ESPNews (231), Travel Channel (277), Toon Disney (283), MGM (284), & Fearnet (285). She didn't give an exact date when these channels will be launched but they will be added by the end of this month.

So much for Maria. I havn't seen these yet. :(

Morac
10-02-08, 02:07 PM
So much for Maria. I havn't seen these yet. :(

That's because CSRs have no clue as to when channels will be added.

From conversations I've had with local techs, they aren't notified either when channels are added/moved/deleted either. A few have been surprised when they came to fix problems on channels they thought I didn't have.

jrcorwin
10-02-08, 02:10 PM
I have an upper management contact in our area. She will slip me a note whenever they get any news. Unfortunately, Comcast doesn't even bother to give too much information to their own employees even. Sometimes it is late as well. For instance, we just got TBS HD here. She didn't find out about it until the day after it had been added.

QZ1
10-02-08, 06:27 PM
How's Calaveras' HD selection?
I don't know.

tamahome02000
10-02-08, 06:30 PM
I asked comcastcares on twitter about nj, but he just said since boston got 18 new ones, other places probably will too in the coming months.

Daniel Murray
10-02-08, 06:59 PM
I asked comcastcares on twitter about nj, but he just said since boston got 18 new ones, other places probably will too in the coming months.

I believe that when when PIGS Fly:D

sansri88
10-02-08, 08:14 PM
I asked comcastcares on twitter about nj, but he just said since boston got 18 new ones, other places probably will too in the coming months.

lmao

I could have said that even though I'm not a CC employee.

wareagle
10-03-08, 12:17 AM
lmao

I could have said that even though I'm not a CC employee.


Yeah -- "coming months" is about as precise as "more, more, more" HD.

JimF_NJ
10-03-08, 03:40 PM
Comcast actually improved my service without charging me more or even telling me about it! This is great! They actually increased the storage capacity on my DVR, and I didn't need to replace any equipment!

Hour-long HD programs used to take up 6% on my DVR, now they only take up 4%. That's just awesome! Now I can record more of the half-dozen HD channels I get!

The only thing I've noticed is that the picture quality of the programs I've recorded, or watch live for that matter, isn't nearly as good as it used to be. I'm probably just imagining that though... it's much more likely that they magically increased my DVR's HD capacity as opposed to compressing the heck out of the content, right?

;)

n o o d l z
10-03-08, 03:52 PM
Comcast actually improved my service without charging me more or even telling me about it! This is great! They actually increased the storage capacity on my DVR, and I didn't need to replace any equipment!

Hour-long HD programs used to take up 6% on my DVR, now they only take up 4%. That's just awesome! Now I can record more of the half-dozen HD channels I get!

The only thing I've noticed is that the picture quality of the programs I've recorded, or watch live for that matter, isn't nearly as good as it used to be. I'm probably just imagining that though... it's much more likely that they magically increased my DVR's HD capacity as opposed to compressing the heck out of the content, right?

;)

You've got it all wrong. When you order the DVR service, they allow for you to store TV shows in the cable between your house and Comcast. It sounds like what happened here is a lengthening of that cable. You're able to store more shows now, but because they have to travel further to get to your house, it loses some of it's quality.

bicker1
10-03-08, 03:57 PM
You've got it all wrong. When you order the DVR service, they allow for you to store TV shows in the cable between your house and Comcast. It sounds like what happened here is a lengthening of that cable. You're able to store more shows now, but because they have to travel further to get to your house, it loses some of it's quality.
Hahahahaha. That's actually quite funny! I'll need to try that out on some friends at work, see how long it takes them to see through the BS.

keenan
10-03-08, 05:00 PM
That is very funny, thanks for the laugh n o o d l z. :D

HDfaninSac
10-03-08, 11:37 PM
Can anyone tell me if and when Comcast will add new HD channels in Sacramento or Roseville, CA?

Daniel Murray
10-04-08, 01:10 PM
Can anyone tell me if and when Comcast will add new HD channels in Sacramento or Roseville, CA?

I bet it is before NJ:D

Morac
10-04-08, 06:50 PM
I bet it is before NJ:D

Maybe not. It looks like Comcast is going to enable SDV in the entire Comcast Garden State system, based on letters going out to TiVo users in that system. If so they could add more HD channels.

See http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=406956

sansri88
10-04-08, 08:33 PM
Whoa! SDV finally in that system is going live!

Now roll it out to the rest of us in Jersey. Or do something. Please.

Daniel Murray
10-04-08, 09:54 PM
Maybe not. It looks like Comcast is going to enable SDV in the entire Comcast Garden State system, based on letters going out to TiVo users in that system. If so they could add more HD channels.

See http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=406956

Just like we should of had new HD cahnnles in Feb. 2008 that never happen.

satpro
10-05-08, 03:00 AM
SDV just started testing this week on the Comcast Leesburg, FL system. Hopefully more HD will be on the way here soon, interesting enough weatherscan local was the first channel to go to SDV.

bob2274
10-05-08, 01:15 PM
I really, really hope that New Jersey gets SDV, and all of the HD channels that Comcast has to offer.

Addicted2HD4Now
10-05-08, 08:42 PM
I really, really hope that New Jersey gets SDV, and all of the HD channels that Comcast has to offer.

Me too, but then what would everyone talk about? :D

maxman
10-05-08, 09:15 PM
SDV just started testing this week on the Comcast Leesburg, FL system. Hopefully more HD will be on the way here soon, interesting enough weatherscan local was the first channel to go to SDV.

They started testing it on my system over a year ago and we still have 25 channels.

tamahome02000
10-05-08, 09:51 PM
On Netflix, you can watch what's currently on a Starz channel. I don't know why Comcast can't do the same thing in the On Demand section for HD channels they don't have.

Addicted2HD4Now
10-05-08, 10:36 PM
On Netflix, you can watch what's currently on a Starz channel. I don't know why Comcast can't do the same thing in the On Demand section for HD channels they don't have.

They do in some cases. We don't currently get FX HD but have some FX HD shows available on demand.

blitzen102
10-06-08, 11:57 AM
For those of you in the FL and NJ SDV areas, what firmware and software versions are currently on your STBs?

JDLIVE
10-06-08, 01:06 PM
On Netflix, you can watch what's currently on a Starz channel. I don't know why Comcast can't do the same thing in the On Demand section for HD channels they don't have.

They do in some ways. I get the Big Ten Network but only in SD. Yet I can watch that channel's HD content via OnDemand.

Daniel Murray
10-06-08, 04:25 PM
For those of you in the FL and NJ SDV areas, what firmware and software versions are currently on your STBs?

How can I find out?

blitzen102
10-06-08, 04:32 PM
How can I find out?

On a Motorola box I believe it is:

setup=>cable box setup=>about

or something like that (I'm not at home to check).

sansri88
10-06-08, 04:34 PM
If you're a Moto area you're A25.

I don't know what Cisco's firmware/guide version is.

blitzen102
10-06-08, 04:42 PM
If you're a Moto area you're A25.


What do you mean? Various Comcast systems are on various different software/firmware versions.

Daniel Murray
10-06-08, 05:11 PM
If you're a Moto area you're A25.

I don't know what Cisco's firmware/guide version is.

How about S/A

sansri88
10-06-08, 05:21 PM
Moto areas with SDV have version A25. A25 is the first I-guide version to enable SDV access.

Cisco = SA, so I don't know.

nakedeye
10-06-08, 08:47 PM
Someone a few pages back mentioned something along the lines of a new text input for finding shows. I guess they said it was kinda like a Tivo. I still have the same ol crappy scroll through the letters set up. Does anyone know anything about this? I am in the Philly market FWIW

nakedeye
10-06-08, 08:48 PM
Ohh and as far as the Big Ten Network in HD is concerned, I noticed that they preempted MOJO for The Big Ten Game that was in HD

bob2274
10-06-08, 09:31 PM
Good job on Comcast's part. I remember that they were able to get the BTN on digital basic in Philadelphia, I guess because of lack bandwidth for adding a channel to expanded basic. With this, they were even able to squeeze the HD games in with the channels they already have.

donn35
10-07-08, 01:48 AM
donn35, Did you get these channels yet?









I haven't received any channels last month so apparently that CSR named Maria probably didn't know what she was talking about Comcast adding new channels by the end of September. However, I did get a launch date of October 15th of five new HD channels for the Chicago area. They are ESPNews (231), Planet Green (261), Biography (269), Toon Disney(283), & MGM (284). According to the CSR I have spoke to just now, Lifetime, Lifetime Movie Network, Travel Channel, & FearNet will be launched before the end of the year but Comcast doesn't have a specific launch date.

donn35
10-07-08, 01:57 AM
The following channels will be added on October 15 for the Chicago area:

ESPNews-231
Planet Green-261
Biography (Bio)-269
Toon Disney-283
MGM-284

donn35
10-07-08, 02:03 AM
Edited by Moderator, 9/3/08

Available on many systems:
NFL Network HD
Discovery HD
The Learning Channel HD
Animal Planet HD
Sci-Fi HD
USA HD
TBS HD
Food Channel HD
HGTV HD
National Geographic HD
A&E HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
TNT HD
HD Theater
MOJO (NBA HD)
Golf Channel HD / Versus HD (NHL, PGA)
Universal HD
Palladia
The Science Channel HD
The History Channel HD
CNN HD
AMC HD
ABC Family HD
Disney HD
HBO HD
Cinemax HD
Showtime HD
Starz HD
ABC HD
NBC HD
CBS HD
FOX HD
My Network TV HD
The CW HD
PBS Digital
Regional Sports Net(s)

Available on select systems:
Fox Business Channel HD
NHL Network HD
MGM HD
Fox News Channel HD
Speed HD
FX HD
WGN HD
Weather Channel HD
The Movie Channel HD
Showtime 2 HD
FUSE HD
Bravo HD
CNBC+ HD
Biography HD
IFC HD
WE HD
QVC HD
NBA TV HD
Encore HD
ESPNews HD
Hallmark Movie Channel HD
Big Ten Network HD
Toon Disney HD
Starz Edge HD
Starz Kids & Family HD
Starz Comedy HD
HDNet
HDNet Movies

Signed contract:
RFD HD
MLB HD
E! HD
VERSUS HD (separate channel)
GOLF CHANNEL HD (separate channel)
STYLE HD
G4 HD

Rumored to be coming soon:
MSNBC HD

Please note that not all HD channels are available in all areas.






Hey maxman, here is something that you can post? Comcast will launch Planet Green HD on October 15th for the Chicago market.

raidbuck
10-07-08, 12:53 PM
What is MLB HD? Is it the HD feature of Extra Innings? Am I delusional or what?

Rich N.

bob2274
10-07-08, 01:09 PM
MLB Network launches Jan 1, 2009. Every carrier of MLB Extra Innings is required to carry it on digital basic when it launches since it was tied to that deal. It will be baseball's version of NFL Network, NHL Network, and NBA TV.

raidbuck
10-07-08, 02:41 PM
MLB Network launches Jan 1, 2009. Every carrier of MLB Extra Innings is required to carry it on digital basic when it launches since it was tied to that deal. It will be baseball's version of NFL Network, NHL Network, and NBA TV.

Thanks, bob2274. But does Comcast have to show the HD games (honoring blackouts of course)? Baltimore once was one of the leaders of the new HD channel caravan but has fallen off a bit lately. I really enjoyed EI and the digital SD was at least watchable, but having 2 games a day (except Saturday for some reason, no HD that day) in HD would be a bonus.

Thanks,

Rich N.

holycow67
10-07-08, 08:05 PM
Why does Comcast make you remember two different channel numbers for HD and standard definition? For example in Chicago I have to know that the HD local ABC station is channel 187 for HD while simply 7 for SD. Same thing for USA network A&E---208 High definition and 50 for SD. Directv and Dish map the SD and HD feeds to the same channel position----why can't Comcast do this? Crazy!

bob2274
10-07-08, 08:25 PM
does Comcast have to show the HD games?

I don't think that they're contractually obligated to show the HD games on that package, since those are just offered by iNDemand. I have made it clear to my local system that I will never buy an out-of-market package again until they show the HD channel that they can get.

wareagle
10-07-08, 09:15 PM
Why does Comcast make you remember two different channel numbers for HD and standard definition?
...

Since most HD channels, especially the local ones, have a lot of SD programming I sometimes record from the SD channel so as to conserve disk space. I limit the "favorites" list to HD, and select the SD channels by exception. They really aren't that difficult to remember.

blitzen102
10-08-08, 10:18 AM
On a Motorola box I believe it is:

setup=>cable box setup=>about

or something like that (I'm not at home to check).

Correction - it is:

Setup=>Cable Box Setup=>Configuration

My current configuration:

S/W Ver: 74.53 3321 (74.xx is the A24 guide, 75.xx is the newer A25)
Firmware: 18.34

Supposedly, my area will be upgraded somethime this month. The new version(s) we will be upgraded to is required for SDV. (Minneapolis/St. Paul is also a SDV test area.)

jrusnak
10-08-08, 12:09 PM
In HD-starved North NJ, Comcast is now offering HGTV and FOOD offerings in HD via the OnDemand section.

Daniel Murray
10-08-08, 12:11 PM
I do not care for OnDemand!! Just give me the Channel!

aindik
10-08-08, 12:24 PM
I do not care for OnDemand!! Just give me the Channel!

Agreed. I'd have to pay an extra $6.50 a month for an HD box to watch On Demand in HD. Right now, I have three TiVos with CableCards and no Comcast boxes.

Marcus Carr
10-08-08, 12:56 PM
Comcast Makes $10 Basic Play

'Get Ready' Offer To Broadcast-Only Homes Is Part Of DTV Education Process

By Linda Haugsted -- Multichannel News, 10/8/2008 9:08:00 AM

Comcast Corp. is rolling out an offer nationwide that will offer broadcast-only homes a basic cable package for $10, a move that is the latest phase in its digital transition education process.

The special pricing is part of the operator's "Get Ready" initiative and Comcast will honor the $10 price point for one year. Consumers who already subscribe to cable, but want to convert other, broadcast-only sets in the home to digital service, can get the digital-basic package free of charge.

The same package of channels, including local broadcasters and public, education and government channels, can be had without charge if a consumer signs up for another new Comcast service such as high-speed data or cable telephony. The basic package will range from 20 to 30 channels, depending on the off-air options community by community

The operator has been working with state and local groups for more than a year to inform people about the move to digital television, including offering an area on its Web site where individual consumers can list the equipment they have in their home and determine the options available to them, including cable or satellite subscription.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6603039.html?desc=topstory

jrusnak
10-08-08, 01:27 PM
I do not care for OnDemand!! Just give me the Channel!

Asking for channels from Comcast is like asking the government to send their bail-out money directly to you!

Daniel Murray
10-08-08, 02:16 PM
Asking for channels from Comcast is like asking the government to send their bail-out money directly to you!

That is very good:eek::D

bicker1
10-08-08, 03:17 PM
Yes a very good analogy. The bail-out money isn't being sent to individuals since that wouldn't really resolve the credit crisis, just like satisfying individual customer requests for channels in random order will likely use up the available bandwidth without satisfying enough of the unique customer interests.

McDonoughDawg
10-08-08, 03:44 PM
I do not care for OnDemand!! Just give me the Channel!

I don't get the problem with OnDemand....I see it as the way of the future..You can actually watch things when you want to. But hey, it's a free country.

wareagle
10-08-08, 03:49 PM
I don't get the problem with OnDemand....I see it as the way of the future..You can actually watch things when you want to. But hey, it's a free country.

As long as you want to watch one of the very few things someone else has decided you should have access to. With a DVR you can actually record anything a channel has to offer and watch it when you please.

McDonoughDawg
10-08-08, 03:55 PM
As long as you want to watch one of the very few things someone else has decided you should have access to. With a DVR you can actually record anything a channel has to offer and watch it when you please.

I wouldn't count what is available in the OnDemand in my area a "very few things". The OnDemand for the movie channels is the best thing going yet.

I gave up channel surfing years ago, that is some of the complaints I've seen about it. And there is only so much HD content a DVR can hold. :)

That said, there are other services out there, and you should choose the one that suits you the best.

blitzen102
10-08-08, 04:17 PM
As long as you want to watch one of the very few things someone else has decided you should have access to. With a DVR you can actually record anything a channel has to offer and watch it when you please.

This makes it sound like you are only watching what other people on your node have ordered from OnDemand via a QAM tuner.

Ya know.... there's a whole user interface in the guide that lets YOU decide what OnDemand content you want to watch.

:)

wareagle
10-08-08, 06:14 PM
This makes it sound like you are only watching what other people on your node have ordered from OnDemand via a QAM tuner.

Ya know.... there's a whole user interface in the guide that lets YOU decide what OnDemand content you want to watch.

:)

Yeah, but there's precious little there. For example, take a look at the offerings for Speed -- something called "Pinks", no F-1. Not even the cruddy nascar.

donn35
10-11-08, 01:40 AM
According to Phil Swann of tvpredictions.com, Cablevision will be adding five new HD channels in Connecticut by October 15th: MTV, VH1, CMT, Fuse, & NHL Network. Comcast is already adding Fuse & NHL in select markets, but what about the three Viacom/MTV Networks?

hdtvjunkie247
10-11-08, 12:13 PM
MTV, VH1 and CMT in HD?? Yuck.

tamahome02000
10-11-08, 05:24 PM
Looks like the rates are going up about 5%:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/08/comcast-jacking-up-cable-rates-4-6-on-average/

TomCat4680
10-11-08, 05:34 PM
Am I the only one that noticed the "sample Comcast bill" on that link says "$3,030,000"? Looks like something from The Onion. or maybe its DirecTV's new ad campaign.

keenan
10-11-08, 05:53 PM
Am I the only one that noticed the "sample Comcast bill" on that link says "$3,030,000"? Looks like something from The Onion. or maybe its DirecTV's new ad campaign.

You mean your Comcast bill is cheaper than that? :p:D

smithfarmer
10-11-08, 06:43 PM
Looks like the rates are going up about 5%:

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/08/comcast-jacking-up-cable-rates-4-6-on-average/

While checking out this story I also saw this:

MOJO Canceled!

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/10/07/indemand-confirms-mojo-hd-cancellation/

bicker1
10-12-08, 05:44 AM
Yup, many of us saw that coming: Not many viewers = channel stops operating (as a linear channel).

Morac
10-12-08, 12:01 PM
Am I the only one that noticed the "sample Comcast bill" on that link says "$3,030,000"? Looks like something from The Onion. or maybe its DirecTV's new ad campaign.

I think that was a billing error that someone got once.

Cubbies_26
10-12-08, 12:11 PM
I have a new sports blackout question to ask about, since members of this board are usually able to explain the strange rules. Yesterday, we were to receive both the Notre Dame vs UNC game and Ohio State vs Purdue on the ABC family of networks. I guess one was to appear on ABC (the more regional game I'm guessing) and the other game on ESPN. ND vs UNC appeared on both ABC and ABC HD, while the Ohio State vs Purdue game appeared on ESPN, but was blacked out on ESPN HD. Are there blackout rules for what can and can't be shown in HD? I'm guessing that even if the Ohio State vs Purdue game wasn't being broadcast in HD, it would have been on shown ESPN HD with the bars on the side of the screen. Is this an issue I should speak to Comcast about, or is this an ESPN issue? Thanks to anyone that can explain.

sansri88
10-12-08, 12:41 PM
If ESPNews HD was shown then it was a blackout done by ESPN themselves, not by Comcast (I think).

SoonerRoadie
10-12-08, 03:04 PM
I have a new sports blackout question to ask about, since members of this board are usually able to explain the strange rules. Yesterday, we were to receive both the Notre Dame vs UNC game and Ohio State vs Purdue on the ABC family of networks. I guess one was to appear on ABC (the more regional game I'm guessing) and the other game on ESPN. ND vs UNC appeared on both ABC and ABC HD, while the Ohio State vs Purdue game appeared on ESPN, but was blacked out on ESPN HD. Are there blackout rules for what can and can't be shown in HD? I'm guessing that even if the Ohio State vs Purdue game wasn't being broadcast in HD, it would have been on shown ESPN HD with the bars on the side of the screen. Is this an issue I should speak to Comcast about, or is this an ESPN issue? Thanks to anyone that can explain.


It's not a blackout really, and Comcast can't do anything about it. It has to do with what is referred to as a reverse mirror. ESPN wants to show a certain game all over the country, but ABC happens to want to show that game regionally in your area. Therefore, in order to prevent showing the same game twice ESPN will instead show another game for your area.

Unfortunately, ESPN can only transmit one HD game at a time. The game you are getting on ESPN is the smaller area of the country, so its only available in SD. The game that is more widely shown on ESPN will be seen in HD.

Zazzik
10-12-08, 07:30 PM
Anyone heard anything when Comcast might be adding more HD channels to their line up in CT?

bob2274
10-12-08, 08:13 PM
Over the years, I've learned that Comcast does not do blackouts themselves. It's the responsibility of the channels. Even the iNDemand package feeds automatically have local games blacked out before they reach the cable companies.

Hardcore Legend
10-12-08, 10:19 PM
So if MOJO is being shut off December 1, am I getting another channel in it's place or are they just going to flip the switch and that channel will be dead-air?

bob2274
10-12-08, 10:30 PM
It will be dead unless your local system has a contract in place to put another channel there. The good news is that is opens space for another channel that can still be negotiated.

sansri88
10-12-08, 10:40 PM
Pretty much all Comcast systems will be dropping Mojo by Dec 1st or around that time and adding Versus HD on channel 206 on Dec 8th.

Hardcore Legend
10-12-08, 10:44 PM
I already have Versus HD.

davisdog
10-12-08, 11:16 PM
you probably have versus/golf HD...which splits time between Versus and Golf HD on the same channel...they are splitting them onto their own dedicated 24x7 channels

Hardcore Legend
10-12-08, 11:38 PM
What a waste of bandwidth.

bicker1
10-13-08, 07:15 AM
Most of the rest of the available HD channels, not yet carried here, are mostly a wasted of bandwidth. The only notable exception AFAIC is FX HD, so hopefully we'll get that soon. Beyond that, though, note that in many areas there are engineering limitations -- not bandwidth limitations. We have two or three open channels right now, just waiting for engineering projects to be completed to allow Comcast to deliver more services to us using that availble bandwidth.

kenvt
10-13-08, 08:38 AM
Most of the rest of the available HD channels, not yet carried here, are mostly a wasted of bandwidth. The only notable exception AFAIC is FX HD, so hopefully we'll get that soon. Beyond that, though, note that in many areas there are engineering limitations -- not bandwidth limitations. We have two or three open channels right now, just waiting for engineering projects to be completed to allow Comcast to deliver more services to us using that availble bandwidth.

Yeah you want FX, I want HDNET and a second HD HBO channel. What are we probably going to get ? None of them. More likely we are to see VS. and Golf on seperate channels, E!, G4, and Style. Check out this article from today:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6604573.html?desc=topstory

Lodef
10-13-08, 09:53 AM
Most of the rest of the available HD channels, not yet carried here, are mostly a wasted of bandwidth. The only notable exception AFAIC is FX HD, so hopefully we'll get that soon. Beyond that, though, note that in many areas there are engineering limitations -- not bandwidth limitations. We have two or three open channels right now, just waiting for engineering projects to be completed to allow Comcast to deliver more services to us using that availble bandwidth.

A lot of the HD channels we have NOW are a waste of bandwidth IMO! And until they decide what they are going to do with Expanded, there really is not going to be much change to the present line-up, BW and Engineering limitations all play into this factor.

JudgeSmails
10-13-08, 10:19 AM
Just asking for more HD channels doesn't mean we'll even get quality HD shows on those channels. Just look at USA, Sci-Fi, TBS, etc. So much of what they air looks so, so bad in HD. Heck, even some of their HD shows (I'm looking at you Burn Notice, Psych and Battlestar) look pretty poor over Comcast.

sansri88
10-13-08, 10:35 AM
Poor quality on Comcast probably means the 3:1 mux isn't working out so well...bandwidth starved.

JDLIVE
10-13-08, 01:42 PM
Unfortunately, ESPN can only transmit one HD game at a time. The game you are getting on ESPN is the smaller area of the country, so its only available in SD. The game that is more widely shown on ESPN will be seen in HD.

I don't think that's true, ESPN has HD games on both ESPNHD and ESPN2HD at noon every Saturday. And they're putting ESPNews HD in place of the game on ESPN2HD, so that's still an HD feed.

To the OP, that's happened to me twice in the Boston area and I haven't been able to find an explanation. Comcast is clueless and I don't think it's anything they're doing, anyway. No idea how to contact ESPN to find out.

Marty Milton
10-13-08, 01:54 PM
I don't think that's true, ESPN has HD games on both ESPNHD and ESPN2HD at noon every Saturday. And they're putting ESPNews HD in place of the game on ESPN2HD, so that's still an HD feed.

To the OP, that's happened to me twice in the Boston area and I haven't been able to find an explanation. Comcast is clueless and I don't think it's anything they're doing, anyway. No idea how to contact ESPN to find out.

This issue is only occuring when ABC starts broadcasting a game at 3:30 Eastern time. One game is shown on ABC and another is shown on ESPN or ESPN2. The only way I can see the alternative game is on the SD ESPN or SD ESPN2 channels. The HD version of the channel is always pre-empting with ESPN News during the 3:30 broadcast time. The noon broadcasts do not usually have an ABC broadcast.

bicker1
10-13-08, 02:20 PM
More likely we are to see VS. and Golf on seperate channels, E!, G4, and Style. Check out this article from today:

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6604573.html?desc=topstoryYup, I just posted it in my local thread. That's almost surely what our system is holding three HD channels slots for. And why not? That's part of the reason why a cable company would own channels. If folks don't want it to work that way, then they should be pushing to put people in charge who will make those sort of changes in our consumer marketplace.

bicker1
10-13-08, 02:22 PM
Just look at USA, Sci-Fi, TBS, etc. USA, Sci-Fi and TNT (at least) are the three best cable HD channels, AFAIC. This disparity demonstrates the challenge for cable companies: They aren't there to satisfy individual customers, but rather to satisfy different parts of the customer-based in the manner most profitable overall.

Hardcore Legend
10-13-08, 09:37 PM
USA, Sci-Fi and TNT (at least) are the three best cable HD channels, AFAIC. This disparity demonstrates the challenge for cable companies: They aren't there to satisfy individual customers, but rather to satisfy different parts of the customer-based in the manner most profitable overall.

I wasn't sure what he was talking about. The Law and Order shows look fantastic on USA and TNT. Sci-Fi I do not watch very much but USA has their original content and it has always looked top shelf.

Networks like ABC Family are a waste of time until they actually plan on using HD content for at minimum 75% of their broadcasts.

I mean, as a sports fan, I'm still waiting on InDemand HD and when January 1st rolls around, I'll be pretty upset if I don't get MLB HD.

I'd also like to get ESPNews HD, as well as Cartoon Network HD (even though I don't think Comcast offers it).

tamahome02000
10-13-08, 09:41 PM
USA & Sci-Fi HD? Wish I had those.

bob2274
10-13-08, 10:43 PM
Networks like ABC Family are a waste of time until they actually plan on using HD content for at minimum 75% of their broadcasts.

I mean, as a sports fan, I'm still waiting on InDemand HD and when January 1st rolls around, I'll be pretty upset if I don't get MLB HD.



ABC Family was probably forced on to cable companies as a package deal in order for them to get a couple other channels. I suspect that ABC-F and Disney were part of an agreement to keep ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD, since they are all owned by Disney. It's amazing the leverage that Disney has in every aspect of the industry.

I agree with you on MLB HD, but I can live without it for a while just like I have with NHL HD since most of the games are on regional and national networks. As for iNDemand HD, I have told Comcast that I will never buy an out of market package again without the HD content that they can get to show with it.

TomCat4680
10-14-08, 04:27 AM
not exactly breaking news there, kenvt. Comcast has had it on their site for several months http://www.comcastnetworks.com

Marcus Carr
10-15-08, 02:32 AM
Moto areas with SDV have version A25. A25 is the first I-guide version to enable SDV access.

Just received the A25 update here a few minutes ago. 5 minute skip using page up/down buttons, menus look a little different, title search using on-screen keypad (:cool:). On Demand controls respond faster (but "One Moment Please" still takes a while).

http://www.comcast.com/newguide/

Does this mean SDV is coming?

blitzen102
10-15-08, 08:19 AM
Just received the A25 update here a few minutes ago. 5 minute skip using page up/down buttons, menus look a little different, title search using on-screen keypad (:cool:). My DVR button takes you right to your recordings (like it used to).

http://www.comcast.com/newguide/

Does this mean SDV is coming?

We received it yesterday here as well.

willwhdtv
10-15-08, 08:38 AM
We have had this for a few weeks already the overlap feature on the DVR definitely comes in handy as well as recording the live football games which sometimes goes beyond the TV guide time schedule

kaiservt
10-15-08, 10:16 AM
Any word on if anyone got any new channels today?

willwhdtv
10-15-08, 10:25 AM
We have received this mnorning MSG HD and MSG Plus HD on channels 195 and 196 (I believe not sure on the exact channel numbers)

KenPog
10-15-08, 01:58 PM
I think it's 196 and 197 and they took off Mojo (206) and 201

Cal1981
10-15-08, 02:22 PM
We got the A25 update last month and since then I've gotten more than just occassional "Not Authorized" messages on MSNBC. It had been occuring on the other cable news stations as well but now it's just MSNBC. When it happens I have to change the channel and then go back to MSNBC to get the station. A Comcast CSR sent a signal to my DVR (Moto DCH3416) last week but the messages are still coming up. I may now have to take the DVR in and exchange it (again!). It's pretty annoying.

sansri88
10-15-08, 04:52 PM
Yes, the scheduled "changes" for today were completed.

MSG on 196, MSG+ on 197, removal of 201 and Mojo (206).

porkys8077
10-15-08, 08:31 PM
Any word on if anyone got any new channels today?


We have MGM and ESPN news.

Sparkman87
10-15-08, 08:34 PM
We have MGM and ESPN news.

Where are you?

porkys8077
10-15-08, 08:40 PM
Where are you?

Chicago

tamahome02000
10-15-08, 09:54 PM
Yes, the scheduled "changes" for today were completed.

MSG on 196, MSG+ on 197, removal of 201 and Mojo (206).

Same here in NJ. I preferred Mojo.

Daniel Murray
10-15-08, 10:23 PM
On the garden state system we got Nothing Again!!

sansri88
10-15-08, 10:51 PM
Garden State isn't in the NYC DMA, otherwise you would have had these "additions" as well.

Only thing else I heard was Docsis 3.0 shortly, possibly November 1st for us. Versus HD on 12/8 is almost guaranteed to happen, it'll be on channel 206. Beyond that I haven't heard anything.

oh, and tamahome we're probably on the same system in NJ, lol.

Daniel Murray
10-15-08, 11:02 PM
It just Blows my Mind how the Garden State system gets left out all the time.

tamahome02000
10-15-08, 11:12 PM
What's docsis 3 get me?

howardstern
10-15-08, 11:49 PM
We have MGM and ESPN news.

This is fukin' ********. I used to get every channel at the same time Chicago did as I'm only 20 minutes outside, now you guys are 17 channels up, fukin' laughable.

Forget the commercials asking "Who has more HD?" "Comcast or Direc TV?" The real question is, "Which Comcast subscriber has more HD?" You or your neighbor?"

sansri88
10-16-08, 12:31 AM
Again Daniel these changes wouldn't affect you anyway---you're in the Philly DMA, not NYC #1.

tamahome, it'll mean faster internet speeds for you...but that's getting a bit off topic for this thread.

Real short version from what I've read/heard:
November 1st, speed tiers are doubled WITHOUT a price increase:
6/1=12/2
8/2=16/2
New 22/5 D3 tier, 50/5 or 50/10 tier.

By the way I would suggest everyone take a look at their HD On Demand content. You'll notice quite a bit more than what was there a few weeks ago.

I stole this link from TravelFan1: http://www.comcast.com/About/PressRelease/PressReleaseDetail.ashx?PRID=811

tamahome02000
10-16-08, 12:43 AM
Not much in On Demand HD that interests me, except maybe Madmen from AMC HD, which I don't have, or Californication, which I can dvr anyway. I'd rather see shows from channels I don't have, like Scifi HD, Usa HD, and Discovery HD (Mythbusters).

donn35
10-16-08, 08:39 AM
Any word on if anyone got any new channels today?










Not only Chicago have added ESPNews & MGM, but Planet Green, Biography, & Toon Disney.

donn35
10-16-08, 08:44 AM
We have MGM and ESPN news.













Porky, you forgot to mention that Planet Green, Biography, & Toon Disney was added too in Chicago.

maxman
10-16-08, 09:05 AM
So did ANYBODY get E!-HD yesterday?

Lodef
10-16-08, 09:17 AM
So did ANYBODY get E!-HD yesterday?

Boston got it .

Marcus Carr
10-16-08, 09:22 AM
Boston got it .

Big surprise.

Don S
10-16-08, 09:43 AM
tamahome, it'll mean faster internet speeds for you...but that's getting a bit off topic for this thread.

Real short version from what I've read/heard:
November 1st, speed tiers are doubled WITHOUT a price increase:
6/1=12/2
8/2=16/2
New 22/5 D3 tier, 50/5 or 50/10 tier.



Sorry for the OT here, but will new modems be needed?

Marcus Carr
10-16-08, 10:05 AM
Chattanooga and North Georgia Comcast customers will receive Fox News, ABC Family, Disney, Science, Speed and FX channels in HD format, said Laurie Shipley, manager of government affairs for Comcast. Chattanooga customers will also receive CNN and AMC channels in HD format.

...Comcast is switching some channel numbers to accommodate the addition of HD channels on Oct. 28. In Chattanooga, the changes are: Style, moving from channel 48 to 118; History, 53 to 120; INSP (The Inspiration Network), 43 to 244; TV Land, 23 to 40; HSN, 39 to 23; Sports South, 56 to 53; BET, 57 to 48; Comedy Central, 63 to 39; and Hallmark, 64 to 43.

For Battlefield and LaFayette, Ga., customers, Style will move from 39 to 118; History, 48 to 126; INSP, 43 to 244; BET, 57 to 48; Comedy Central, 63 to 39; and Hallmark, 64 to 43.

http://timesfreepress.com/news/2008/oct/16/chattanooga-comcast-switches-channels-it-adds-hd-c/

blitzen102
10-16-08, 10:13 AM
Sorry for the OT here, but will new modems be needed?

No.

Marcus Carr
10-16-08, 12:57 PM
Found this on Comcast.com for Boston:

887 TRAVEL HD

I don't think they have it yet. Must be coming soon.

blitzen102
10-16-08, 02:26 PM
From looking at the Comcast iguide for tonight, it looks like we are getting our first ever NHL Center Ice game in HD - channel 771.

QZ1
10-16-08, 03:09 PM
tamahome, it'll mean faster internet speeds for you...but that's getting a bit off topic for this thread.

Real short version from what I've read/heard:
November 1st, speed tiers are doubled WITHOUT a price increase:
6/1=12/2
8/2=16/2
New 22/5 D3 tier, 50/5 or 50/10 tier.
Since this is OT, I searched the Internet and BBR for this HSI info., but and I can't find any on speed increases on existing tiers, just the new speed tier(s).

I have the 'Performance' tier 6/1, and I was thinking of cutting back to the 'Economy' tier , but it is only 768/384, so I may only switch if it is getting an increase also; can you provide link?

Our new Nov. '08 price schedule still shows 768/384 and 6/1, but has 8/2 changing to 16/2; is it possible SE PA is only getting this change?

keenan
10-16-08, 03:22 PM
The 8/2 went to 16/2 several months ago, at least in upgraded areas, in fact it was June/July here in the SF bay area. With a Limited Basic sub it runs about $52, which was the same price for the 8/2 service. By itself I think it runs around $68-70.

QZ1
10-16-08, 03:43 PM
Ok, so apparently, we still will probably get the speed increase(s), it is just they decided on them, after the price cards went to print. I am thinking about cutting the Internet speed, as I said, I just need to know what speed Economy will be on 1 Nov.

Other than the occasional ABC-HD show, that I have to delete for space, I don't need all of this HSI speed. Now that I think of it, I will be getting a new larger DVR soon, (I still only have 120GB), so I would only need ABC's site, if the DVR deleted a show. I am just thinking out loud, maybe it can help others, as well. :)

Comcast TV is just getting too expensive. (Internet stays the same, because it has been over-priced for years, but they raise the speeds, whoop-de-do, I don't need it.) I am going to cut Digital Classic, now $16.95, from the TV side.

Also, we have to have to have the most expensive Premium movie channels, as well. They are even raising them at a continually higher rate ($0.50, $1, now $2), and a faster rate (12, 11, now 10 mos.), for the new low price of $21.95! :eek: (Oh, and remember to add fees, and Premiums (& Digital tiers) also incur taxes, so here that adds ~12%. ;)) I like having a Premium HD movie source, and I am keeping it for now, but this is getting ridiculous. :mad:

sansri88
10-16-08, 03:54 PM
Sorry for the OT here, but will new modems be needed?

Only for the 22/5 and 50/5 or 50/10....those are Docsis 3.0 specs, not D2 which we have.

QZ1, this is the BBR post: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/More-on-Comcasts-New-22Mbps-Speed-Tier-98418

And I also called up the local support number and they said November 1st for my system. I'll wait and see though.

Edit: OMG I just checked my bill online and it went down by $0.11!!!11

QZ1
10-16-08, 04:22 PM
QZ1, this is the BBR post: http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/More-on-Comcasts-New-22Mbps-Speed-Tier-98418
Oh well, I read those, and they don't mention the Economy tier. Since, I don't find any info. on it anywhere as changing, I guess it is staying at 768/384. I remember asking a CSR about the speed, and she didn't know the tier even existed, I wasn't surprised. (But, it is on the price card, so I can get it.) I may just try it out. Probably, when I tell them I am downgrading, they will offer me a better deal on the Perf. tier, I would take that. If not, I will try Economy, I can always switch back. ;) Thanks

keenan
10-16-08, 05:12 PM
Ok, so apparently, we still will probably get the speed increase(s), it is just they decided on them, after the price cards went to print. I am thinking about cutting the Internet speed, as I said, I just need to know what speed Economy will be on 1 Nov.

Other than the occasional ABC-HD show, that I have to delete for space, I don't need all of this HSI speed. Now that I think of it, I will be getting a new larger DVR soon, (I still only have 120GB), so I would only need ABC's site, if the DVR deleted a show. I am just thinking out loud, maybe it can help others, as well. :)

Comcast TV is just getting too expensive. (Internet stays the same, because it has been over-priced for years, but they raise the speeds, whoop-de-do, I don't need it.) I am going to cut Digital Classic, now $16.95, from the TV side.

Also, we have to have to have the most expensive Premium movie channels, as well. They are even raising them at a continually higher rate ($0.50, $1, now $2), and a faster rate (12, 11, now 10 mos.), for the new low price of $21.95! :eek: (Oh, and remember to add fees, and Premiums (& Digital tiers) also incur taxes, so here that adds ~12%. ;)) I like having a Premium HD movie source, and I am keeping it for now, but this is getting ridiculous. :mad:
Plus, the internet really doesn't cost them any more money, they just re-provision the modem for the higher speed.

Agree on the premium channels, they are way out in left field with those prices, it's at about twice what satellite charges and you get way more of the HD multiplex channels with sat.

Comcast really is getting to be too expensive.

maxman
10-16-08, 05:31 PM
Plus, the internet really doesn't cost them any more money, they just re-provision the modem for the higher speed.

Agree on the premium channels, they are way out in left field with those prices, it's at about twice what satellite charges and you get way more of the HD multiplex channels with sat.

Comcast really is getting to be too expensive.

Something tells me that someone here may disagree with you...:D

jrusnak
10-16-08, 05:34 PM
Something tells me that someone here may disagree with you...:D

LOL!! Waiting for the pending "rationalization."

jrusnak
10-16-08, 05:47 PM
Same here in NJ. I preferred Mojo.

Me too. Although I rarely watched it, it at least had movies in HD. And "LONDON LIVE" was okay. So now we lose a rare entertainment 24-Hr HD channel and get 2 more sports channels with barely any HD. (Both channels are showing SD as I type this.) As soon as I get the next rate increase from ComCrap, I'm going to investigate the MPEG-4 DISH option.

keenan
10-16-08, 05:49 PM
LOL...maybe I should add a "IMO" to ward off any retorts. :D

QZ1
10-16-08, 06:32 PM
Plus, the internet really doesn't cost them any more money, they just re-provision the modem for the higher speed.

I realize the provisioning process is simple. However, I believed, while all tiers are overpriced, that the higher tiers actually costed them more in terms of network resources; that isn't true to some extent?

Agree on the premium channels, they are way out in left field with those prices, it's at about twice what satellite charges and you get way more of the HD multiplex channels with sat.

Not that difficult to do, since we get all of one HD channel on a given premium.:(

Comcast really is getting to be too expensive.

I had thought that they were expensive several years ago, but now they have become brazen with their rate increase to increase frequency ratio.

I live in a condo apt., I could actually get Directv or Dish, either from a window or balcony facing SW, but they don't have CSN-Philadelphia.

So, my only alternative is FIOS, which was approved but not installed in my municipality yet, at least they started though. Even then, it has to be installed in our building. I remember the FCC passed two rulings; one was allowing access to building's cables, (and the other was nullifying exclusive contracts; that didn't apply to our bldg.)

It sounds as if Verizon has to allowed in the building, whether the Board wants it or not. However, all of these rulings have caveats, so I am not sure if we will definately be getting FIOS here; I wish I could get clarification on this.

keenan
10-16-08, 06:56 PM
I realize the provisioning process is simple. However, I believed, while all tiers are overpriced, that the higher tiers actually costed them more in terms of network resources; that isn't true to some extent?

It's been quite some time since I looked at all this, but from what I remember, until they go to D3.0(which they are starting to now and requires multiple QAMs depending on how fast you want), it's only using one QAM channel and the network resources/congestion would be limited to how many people are on the pipe at the same time and how much data they're passing through it. This is always going to be an issue with cable as it acts like a sort of party-line, everyone shares the same cable/feed. Most of you are probably to young to remember party-line phone systems(I was pretty young myself) but often times you would have to wait for someone else to complete their conversation before you could use the line for yourself, or try and talk over the people already on the line. :p

While carriers like Comcast complain about heavy users congesting the system, I've also read that many "experts" say that available internet capacity is still a long ways from being considered "congested". The only real congestion is at the local level and in that respect, yes, it would probably mean some investment in infrastructure, but a speed change from 6>8>16, I really doubt that has any real effect or require an influx of capitol to support. IOW, those speed capacities have always been there, they just haven't enabled you to use them depending on the rate you pay per month.

I would check with your local franchise authority(if they still have control even as many don't anymore) about the regs, and even then, Verizon is probably unlikely to make their intentions known publicly for competitive reasons. Eventually they will of course, but it's not like they're going to come right out and say they'll have it installed by next Dec for example.

QZ1
10-16-08, 07:32 PM
I would check with your local franchise authority(if they still have control even as many don't anymore) about the regs, and even then, Verizon is probably unlikely to make their intentions known publicly for competitive reasons. Eventually they will of course, but it's not like they're going to come right out and say they'll have it installed by next Dec for example.
No, this isn't up to the LFA (nor do I think they would have the info., but maybe), it is a matter if the FCC regs. force to Boards to allow Verizon in the bldg. w/o qualification, once the LFA has approved them.

I guess I need to find the regs. and read them, and interpret them the best I can. Verizon may tell me, if they will be installing in bldgs. and townhouses in my municipality; why would they lie? I already have Comcast, but I want to switch ASAP. I just want to know now, if this is a possibility; not that it really does anything for us, except to look forward to it.;)

ComcastSportsNet-HD has better PQ on FIOS than on Comcast; how do like that?:)

keenan
10-16-08, 08:06 PM
I can easily believe that, it's no secret that Comcast is crunched for space.

donn35
10-16-08, 08:16 PM
Found this on Comcast.com for Boston:

887 TRAVEL HD

I don't think they have it yet. Must be coming soon.







Marcus, you're probably right about Travel HD because I spoke to a CSR last month that the channel 'was coming soon' or 'to be announced' here in Chicago & she stated that it will be on channel 277. She also told me that Lifetime, Lifetime Movie Network, & Fearnet was coming but didn't give me a precise launch date.

donn35
10-16-08, 08:51 PM
I just read the Comcast Boston post from this website & found out that these two HD channels were added yesterday in their city along with Planet Green:

E!-834
Cartoon Network-860

keithbart
10-16-08, 11:23 PM
Marcus, you're probably right about Travel HD because I spoke to a CSR last month that the channel 'was coming soon' or 'to be announced' here in Chicago & she stated that it will be on channel 277. She also told me that Lifetime, Lifetime Movie Network, & Fearnet was coming but didn't give me a precise launch date.

donn35, It seams you have found a CSR that has some good inside
information about new HD channels. Does she have any idea when
the Chicago 'burbs or NW Indiana will get the new HD channels or
when they will start analog migration in the area? Thanks.

QZ1
10-17-08, 01:05 AM
I can easily believe that, it's no secret that Comcast is crunched for space.
Well, yes, I know that, but only some HD channels are set as 3 per QAM space, while others are still 2 per QAM. It would stand to reason that CSN-HD is the best HD they can provide, and it is very good, but it still doesn't match FIOS; I read this a while ago, when FIOS was new here.

donn35
10-17-08, 01:12 AM
donn35, It seams you have found a CSR that has some good inside
information about new HD channels. Does she have any idea when
the Chicago 'burbs or NW Indiana will get the new HD channels or
when they will start analog migration in the area? Thanks.








Keith, the only thing I can tell you is that more channels are either 'coming soon or 'to be announced.' As soon as I get any info regarding new channels I will post it on this forum. As for the Chicago suburbs or NW Indiana, I really can't say since I live in the city.

Marcus Carr
10-17-08, 05:58 PM
Comcast's Next Guide Set For Second Half of '09

GuideWorks i-Guide Version A28 to Include Support for SDV and 'Start Over' Features

By Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 10/17/2008 12:41:00 PM

The next version of the i-Guide interactive program guide used by Comcast and other cable operators—slated to include Start Over-style features—won’t be ready for commercial deployment until the second half of 2009.

The IPG’s next major release, version A28, will include several key enhancements, including support for Start Over applications and switched digital video systems.

The software, which runs natively on Motorola set-top boxes, will go through lab testing and trials in early 2009 before its general availability in the latter part of the year, said Sharon Metz, Macrovision’s vice president of vertical marketing for system operators for North America.

Comcast had previously hoped to roll out a service similar to Time Warner Cable’s Start Over, which allows viewers to restart certain recently aired programs, by the end of 2008.

The i-Guide code is developed by GuideWorks, a joint venture 51% owned by Comcast and 49% owned by Macrovision. Macrovision, which completed the acquisition of Gemstar-TV Guide International in May, has rights to market the guide to other operators.

Other features in store with A28: the ability to search and record by actor, director or keyword, similar to TiVo’s WishList (e.g., the DVR can automatically save all upcoming programs with a specific actor); folders to group DVR recordings of the same show; and bulk deletion of recordings.

The next i-Guide can also show viewers who tune to a standard-definition channel an on-screen prompt that lets them switch to an HD version if it’s available. “We think subscribers will really get a lot of value from these features,” Metz said.

Support for switched digital video originally was planned for version A25, released earlier this year. (A26 and 27 were consigned to beta releases.)

That was pushed to A28 because the switched digital video portion of the guide encountered “technical issues” in testing, said Macrovision executive vice president of marketing Corey Ferengul, who declined to be more specific.

“We went through some field trials and found some issues, and decided to pull it back and make it part of the next major release,” he said.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6606439.html?desc=topstory

maxman
10-17-08, 06:27 PM
Comcast's Next Guide Set For Second Half of '09

The next version of the i-Guide interactive program guide used by Comcast...won’t be ready for commercial deployment until the second half of 2009.
The software, which runs natively on Motorola set-top boxes...

Nothing in store for me yet again - mine is Scientific Atlanta.

Oh yeah, is this anything like the FIOS guide available now? Click "See It For Yourself" here:

http://www22.verizon.com/Residential/FiOSTV/MediaGuide/MediaGuide.htm

URFloorMatt
10-17-08, 06:31 PM
FiOS's guide is proprietary. i-Guide is produced by Macrovision (http://www.macrovision.com/products/system_operators/ipg_so/i_guide.htm) and is used by many cable providers.

sansri88
10-17-08, 06:36 PM
I wouldn't bet on much of a facelift on the UI...we've seen how the I-guide UI has been stagnant.

They need to drop I-guide and release the J-guide already!

bob2274
10-17-08, 06:45 PM
It might just not be what I'm used to, but I don't like the Verizon guide at all. I also really don't like the funky way the box acts when it's restarted. It such a different system even with the exact same box I have with Comcast.

maxman
10-17-08, 06:51 PM
...i-Guide is produced by Macrovision (http://www.macrovision.com/products/system_operators/ipg_so/i_guide.htm) and is used by many cable providers.

That's not the guide used on SA boxes. Don't know who produces mine but it still lists "INHD" instead of MOJO for instance.

alienProject
10-17-08, 09:43 PM
I ordered NHL Center Ice a couple of days ago and today I noticed when I go to watch the HD channel (635 in Boston) I get a message saying "Not authorized." Is the HD channel not included in the subscription?

MWJones
10-18-08, 12:50 AM
That's not the guide used on SA boxes. Don't know who produces mine but it still lists "INHD" instead of MOJO for instance.

SA Boxes typically use SARA, which is developed by Scientific Atlanta/Cisco for their boxes. Feature wise, the current 1.89 versions already support SDV. Some older systems may use Passport, but that software is becoming more rare. Of course then Time/Warner has a proprietary software they're in the process of deploying on their boxes.

Here in Houston, they are moving users away from the older Motorola boxes to SA boxes, with hope of phasing out the Motorola platform by end of year. But I can tell you that the program guides here definately show MOJO correctly. That may be a regional head-end issue.

bob2274
10-18-08, 11:47 AM
Is the HD channel not included in the subscription?

Yes it should be. It is provided to the cable company as a feature to be included in the package.

Marcus Carr
10-18-08, 05:31 PM
In Baltimore a football game on CBS College Sports is being simulcast in HD on MOJO. Maybe Comcast has a deal for the HD channel.

alienProject
10-18-08, 05:34 PM
Yes it should be. It is provided to the cable company as a feature to be included in the package.

Thanks. I guess I'll give them a call and see what's up.

alienProject
10-18-08, 06:14 PM
Thanks. I guess I'll give them a call and see what's up.

Just got off the phone and according to the rep I also have to subscribe to the Sports and Entertainment package for $7.95/month just to receive the HD channel. So it's not enough that I paid $160 but now they want me to pay $8 per month to watch one game in HD per day. :mad:

bob2274
10-18-08, 10:50 PM
Where you live, it's worth it just to get NHL Network HD and all the games they have.

Hardcore Legend
10-18-08, 10:56 PM
In Baltimore a football game on CBS College Sports is being simulcast in HD on MOJO. Maybe Comcast has a deal for the HD channel.

I had the same thing. Pitt vs Someone. My FSN network is usually simulcast on there, so we usually get whatever FSN CFB is supposed to be on.

I wish Comcast would tell us what games will be simulcast and when.

Hardcore Legend
10-18-08, 11:00 PM
Comcast's Next Guide Set For Second Half of '09

GuideWorks i-Guide Version A28 to Include Support for SDV and 'Start Over' Features

By Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 10/17/2008 12:41:00 PM

The next version of the i-Guide interactive program guide used by Comcast and other cable operators—slated to include Start Over-style features—won’t be ready for commercial deployment until the second half of 2009.

The IPG’s next major release, version A28, will include several key enhancements, including support for Start Over applications and switched digital video systems.

The software, which runs natively on Motorola set-top boxes, will go through lab testing and trials in early 2009 before its general availability in the latter part of the year, said Sharon Metz, Macrovision’s vice president of vertical marketing for system operators for North America.



Oh God, this sounds just like what Time Warner has at my wife's parents house. It's an awful setup.

I'm sure this new guide will COMPLETELY disable the 1394 output, not just on recorded programming like the last one.

arubaflower
10-19-08, 06:09 AM
Is anyone else getting harassed by Comcast with Emergency Alert System interruptions? Comcast says they test once a week but that is a lie. I get them several times a week at all hours--and always while I am watching TV, be it midnight, 1am, or 5am, it doesn't matter. On a rare occasion, I've even had them occur during the daytime.

Comcast went too far this morning. Starting about 4:30 am, every few minutes for an hour my TV was interrupted with the EAS. At least 10 times Comcast interrupted my programming to blast that infernal EAS message.:mad: I tried mute and turning off the TV but nothing worked to stop it. As soon as I started watching TV agian, Comcast blasted the EAS. It was outrageous. Evenutally I went into another room until they stopped.

I live in the DC area but apparently Comcast's EAS harassment extends nationwide. I found this little blurb from a Comcast viewer out in Utah:
What is with Comcast's Night Daily Show Interruption?

Utah viewers of Jon Stewart's The Daily Show may have noticed that our "weekly" Emergency Alert System test seems to have become a nightly EAS test, repeating several times a week lately. Last night, both the 9 p.m. and midnight airings were interrupted by the "weekly" test, cutting off up to a minute of timely fake news. A conspiracy? Probably not. Annoying as heck and inexplicable? Definitely.

Source (http://voiceofutah.blogspot.com/2008/10/what-is-with-comcasts-nightly-daily.html)Surely there must be some FCC regulations specifying the frequency and manner in which Comcast and other providers may use the EAS. I am going to report Comcast to the FCC because what they are doing amounts to harassment.

hcady
10-19-08, 01:56 PM
That EAS test is a pain in the ear, been a while since I saw it here. The last time, I had my dvr paused, planning to catch up on the program that was on, the test came on and wiped it out. If you're recording something, at least it continues after the test, I've had recordings with several small separate recordings of a program, a bit of pain to watch.

drhill
10-20-08, 09:47 AM
My program guide still shows FOXws.... they are so bad with that stuff. I'm so tired of Comcast crapping on our area with no HD channels too (Garden State Cable, south jersey). I pray FIOS becomes available soon. Satellite is no option for me because of Comcast Sportsnet Philly

TomCat4680
10-21-08, 05:10 AM
a recent customer satisfaction survery by J.D. Power & Associates among the nation's top 10 tv providers ranks Comcast's at an all time low, including dead last in the northeast

http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/10381/518826.html

Marty Milton
10-21-08, 10:25 AM
In Baltimore a football game on CBS College Sports is being simulcast in HD on MOJO. Maybe Comcast has a deal for the HD channel.
Here in parts of Illinois if the Chicago Comcast Sports Channel is broadcasting both the White Sox and Cubs game they will broadcast one of the games on MOJO.

jrusnak
10-21-08, 11:33 AM
Well, it seems to have happened following the exact scenario I envisioned. With this months bill, Comcast subs in North NJ are being notified of yet another rate increase...less than a year after the last one. This new increase is the biggest yet! (Between $15 - $20 a month for me)

The notice also states that subscribers will have 44 new channels, starting November 1st. However, they do not indicate what the channels are, or even if any of them are HD! But I'd hope that out of those channels, at least some should be in HD. Then again, this is Comcast we're talking about. Guess we'll know in a couple weeks.

blitzen102
10-21-08, 03:02 PM
Well, it seems to have happened following the exact scenario I envisioned. With this months bill, Comcast subs in North NJ are being notified of yet another rate increase...less than a year after the last one. This new increase is the biggest yet! (Between $15 - $20 a month for me)

The notice also states that subscribers will have 44 new channels, starting November 1st. However, they do not indicate what the channels are, or even if any of them are HD! But I'd hope that out of those channels, at least some should be in HD. Then again, this is Comcast we're talking about. Guess we'll know in a couple weeks.

Are you in an area that was formerly Adelphia (and required a big instrastructure upgrade)? Or are you in the area in NJ that is a SDV test area?

Thanks

jrusnak
10-21-08, 03:09 PM
Are you in an area that was formerly Adelphia (and required a big instrastructure upgrade)? Or are you in the area in NJ that is a SDV test area?

Thanks

Not formerly Adelphia. And no SDV testing, at least as far as I know. It's the Union, NJ branch. Also, there is now a new MENU tag called ITV (Interactive TV).

blitzen102
10-21-08, 03:20 PM
Not formerly Adelphia. And no SDV testing, at least as far as I know. It's the Union, NJ branch. Also, there is now a new MENU tag called ITV (Interactive TV).

Thanks.

Do you currently have all or most of the 38 or so channels listed under "Available on many systems:" in the first post of this thread?

tamahome02000
10-21-08, 04:01 PM
No, he doesn't. I just lost my favorite list too.

sansri88
10-21-08, 04:38 PM
iTV is here on my cable box as well.

The 44 channels is digital preferred being phased out and moving to digital classic, read carefully. No new HD channels :(

DVDO+WESTY=1080p
10-21-08, 05:05 PM
in Manassas VA I got a letter stating that Comcast will add 20 new channels to Digital Classic subscribers. Is that the same deal as the 44?

hdtvjunkie247
10-21-08, 05:23 PM
in Manassas VA I got a letter stating that Comcast will add 20 new channels to Digital Classic subscribers. Is that the same deal as the 44?

Seems highly likely.

maxman
10-21-08, 07:13 PM
Well, it seems to have happened following the exact scenario I envisioned. With this months bill, Comcast subs in North NJ are being notified of yet another rate increase...less than a year after the last one. This new increase is the biggest yet! (Between $15 - $20 a month for me)

The notice also states that subscribers will have 44 new channels, starting November 1st. However, they do not indicate what the channels are, or even if any of them are HD! But I'd hope that out of those channels, at least some should be in HD. Then again, this is Comcast we're talking about. Guess we'll know in a couple weeks.

They used to raise the rates on January 1st; now they can't even wait a year.

My rate increase sheet says Digital Classic customers will receive 44 more channels also. Doesn't say what they are, and it certainly doesn't say that any of them are HD, so you can bet they won't be. Sorry.

maxman
10-21-08, 07:21 PM
Are you in an area that was formerly Adelphia (and required a big instrastructure upgrade)? Or are you in the area in NJ that is a SDV test area?

Thanks

The SDV test area was (is?) in my area (Comcast of Garden State in South Jersey), not that it has amounted to anything. We haven't had an HD channel added this year. Thanks, Comcast!:rolleyes:

Daniel Murray
10-21-08, 07:57 PM
The SDV test area was (is?) in my area (Comcast of Garden State in South Jersey), We haven't had an HD channel added this year. Thanks, Comcast!:rolleyes:

Or last year:rolleyes::mad:

bob2274
10-21-08, 08:41 PM
With the demise of MOJO in the next couple months, I saw on a few industry websites that "Wealth TV" has won the first step of a carriage complaint against Comcast, Time Warner, Cox, and Bright House. The case will be heard before an Administrative Law Judge, which opens the door for discovery and exposing what I suspect are some pretty shady business practices in the name of protecting the consumer. Wealth TV alleges discrimination because it's a channel similar to MOJO, and the network could not secure a carriage deal while MOJO was carried by all of its owners, which are the cable companies listed in the complaint. Since there is a window for the channel and cable companies to resolve the issue, I hope that Comcast, at least, would make an effort to carry the channel as a replacement for MOJO. They could even make a deal to carry regional sports and special events on the channel like they do already, instead of being stuck with a mandated deal sometime down the road.
NFL Network also won the same battle, and their complaint is supposed to also go to the Judge, but I don't know how strong their case is. The NFL believes that they are so important that their channel needs to be on basic or digital basic. Comcast used to carry NFL Net on digital basic, but moved the channel to the sports tier when the live games started and the per month rate for the channel was raised. I know that Comcast says that their argreement allowed for the change, but I don't know if it was because of the rate increase, or because Versus was denied the opportunity to buy the 8 games per year. Of course, the NFL is saying that Comcast discriminated against the league by moving the channel simply because Versus did not get the games. I don't know, but I guess we'll see.
Last, the most interesting complaint in my region is MASN's discrimination complaint against Comcast. In 2006, as a condition of the Adelphia merger, the FCC set a deadline for Comcast to complete a deal with unaffiliated regional sports networks, or face arbitration. I got this from the FCC website- 95. MASN states that on the afternoon of August 4, 2006 – just three hours before the arbitration deadline – Comcast transmitted to MASN via email a revised version of the Term Sheet the parties had been negotiating. MASN states that Comcast’s email provided Comcast’s List of Systems for the first time. MASN explains that Comcast gave no indication that the list excluded any of its systems except for the former-Adelphia systems in Roanoke/Lynchburg and other Virginia areas that served [REDACTED] subscribers.
To me, this one is laughable because it's obvious that Comcast misled MASN in the final hours of negotiations by specifically leaving out certain systems in the territory including Harrisburg, PA and several systems in Western VA. What makes it even more obvious is that Comcast carries their own Comcast Sportsnet on every one of these systems while they say that "no one is interested" in MASN and that it's too expensive to carry. They also like to say that "MASN negotiated and signed the agreement" with them. They did, but it seems like they were under a little bit of pressure to get a deal done. With this one, I don't see why Comcast would not go ahead and add MASN to it's systems before more dirt is dug up and they are eventually forced to add a channel they already carry on most systems.

bob2274
10-21-08, 08:50 PM
I forgot to mention- the MASN complaint aginst Time Warner for carriage in North Carolina has already advanced to the full commision to review, and the deadline for a decision is October 28. I really, really don't see why Comcast would want to make such a fight out of this issue when a cable company further away has already lost twice and is about to lose again.

For more, see http://www.wetmachine.com/totsf/item/1350

chitchatjf
10-21-08, 10:59 PM
Mojo should be replaced by HDNet!

Same channel same programming tier!

Marcus Carr
10-22-08, 02:35 AM
More likely that MOJO will be replaced with Golf Channel HD.

maxman
10-22-08, 11:31 AM
More likely MOJO will be replaced with squat.

Daniel Murray
10-22-08, 11:48 AM
More likely MOJO will be replaced with squat.

It is hard for me to say that Comcast has done anything good in the past two or three years with the Garden state system. We pay more and get less all the time.
I can't for wait Fios to come on line in my town.

Sparkman87
10-22-08, 12:46 PM
Our System is ending MOJO 12/1, putting Versus HD on that channel 12/8, Golf HD continues on the the combined Versus/Golf channel. MOJO is the overflow channel for Comcast Sportsnet HD plus games, looks like they are starting a local origination HD channel that will handle that.