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Marcus Carr
03-02-09, 11:13 AM
NBA TV near shift to Comcast basic tier

By JOHN OURAND and JOHN LOMBARDO
Staff writers

Published March 02, 2009 : Page 03

The NBA is close to a deal that would move NBA TV off Comcast’s digital sports tier and on to digital basic, the same that houses MLB Network.

A deal has not been signed, but several sources said one could be inked by this spring, which would mean moving the network by the start of next season. Comcast, the country’s biggest cable operator, would move the network before the start of the 2009-10 season.

The upgrade from Comcast’s sports tier to its digital basic tier would add up to 7 million subscribers to NBA TV’s distribution, which stands at 15 million subscribers.

NBA and Comcast officials did not comment.

The NBA was able to persuade Comcast to make the move by tying carriage of its out-of-market NBA League Pass with better carriage terms for the network. Comcast’s deal with League Pass expires after this season, sources said, and the NBA would not renew it unless NBA TV was moved off of a sports tier.

MLB Network pioneered this strategy last year, when it made its Extra Innings package dependent on carriage of its new channel.

Once the Comcast deal is completed, it’s likely that other operators would fall in line, as among cable operators, Comcast tends to set the market.

For example, after carriage battles with top cable operators that lasted for more than a year, the Big Ten Network finally signed a deal with Comcast last June. In the next two months, almost all the other cable operators in its footprint signed similar deals.

Currently, cable operators pay 38 cents per subscriber per month for NBA TV, according to figures from SNL Kagan. That per-subscriber fee would drop if NBA TV were on a more fully distributed tier, sources said.

NBA TV’s move off of cable’s sports tiers has been a focus for the league since the fall of 2007, when the league believed it was close to a deal to move off of Time Warner Cable’s sports tier. The NBA’s resolve picked up steam this year, when MLB Network launched to about 50 million digital basic homes, steering clear of cable’s sports tiers.

The expected shift of NBA TV off a sports tier to a digital basic tier is the latest change for the NBA’s media asset. Turner Sports this season took over operations of the NBA’s digital assets, which includes NBA.com, NBA TV and League Pass.

http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/61685

Ken H
03-02-09, 12:14 PM
A number of unnecessary comments have been removed, at the request of a number of members.

HDHTPC
03-02-09, 05:13 PM
Comcast HD has given me a lot of good HD channels, but one I miss is Cartoon HD. My kids and I enjoy Star Wars - Clone Wars animated series, but we are stuck watching in SD...

briankrich
03-02-09, 05:41 PM
TNT is now carrying the Clone Wars, Wednesday nights at 10:00 (if you get TNT-HD at your location...).

http://www.tnt.tv/schedule.jsp?startDate=3/4/2009

scanpa
03-02-09, 05:47 PM
Clone wars in HD on Demand. That's how I watch it, since we do not have TOONHD

STVA1
03-02-09, 06:15 PM
NBA TV near shift to Comcast basic tier

By JOHN OURAND and JOHN LOMBARDO
Staff writers

Published March 02, 2009 : Page 03

The NBA is close to a deal that would move NBA TV off Comcast’s digital sports tier and on to digital basic, the same that houses MLB Network.


http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/61685

I have a problem with that wordage, as Comcast does not carry MLB Network on Digital Starter, even though that is what we were led to believe before January 1 by MLB.

Marcus Carr
03-02-09, 06:22 PM
No Clone Wars On Demand here, but I watch new episodes on Cartoon Network in SD and reruns on TNT HD.

QZ1
03-02-09, 07:24 PM
Is this true ? You lose stereo sound with the DTA ? This is a huge loss if true.
The DTAs Comcast are using, that I have seen, have a a choice of Composite video/Stereo audio or RF.

QZ1
03-02-09, 07:39 PM
So let me get this straight. If Comcast makes a system all digital, those analog subs would leave and go to another provider that is also all digital even though Comcast would offer them 2 or 3 free DTA's while the other provider would require a box on every tv increasing the cost.

Hmm, that logic does not make sense!
You are assuming everything else is equal, and the competitor is more $, because of box rentals; that is what Comcast would like you to believe.

The fact is, Comcast, at least here, raised the rate of Digital Starter (Digital equivilant of Analog Standard), more than usual the last two years, to account for the eventual adding of two DTAs to the service (in addition to the one included Digital Box).

Here, everyone with Digital Starter will effectively be paying for at least a $3.70 Digital Box, (Digital folks were already; for Analog folks, this is new) and 2 DTAs x $2 = $4. Total is $7.70 in box fees required; however, it isn't itemized, that is the shell game, so one thinks they are 'free'.;)

I remember when Comcast used to advertise that 'we don't charge extra for local channels'. Well, Directv and Dish's prices for the same channels as Comcast (national + local) was less than Comcast's. It is just that the satellite cos. itemized the local channels as another service, effectively giving people the chance to decline them, but instead they were criticized for 'costing extra'.:rolleyes:

Daniel Murray
03-02-09, 07:41 PM
My Mother inlaw was charge for a HD/DVR Box from Comcast and She has no DVR Box. Comcast told her to bring the DVR Box back and they will put back the $24.99 on her bill.
The Best part is SHE HAS NO DVR BOX!!!! Now I have a 60+ year Mother inlaw All most in tears. She is so upset over her bill. They will not talk with her or with Me. I old Her to try again in the moring and if they keep telling that She has a DVR Box and will not help to call the Cops.
What can she do?

kenvt
03-02-09, 07:48 PM
My Mother inlaw was charge for a HD/DVR Box from Comcast and She has no DVR Box. Comcast told her to bring the DVR Box back and they will put back the $24.99 on her bill.
The Best part is SHE HAS NO DVR BOX!!!! Now I have a 60+ year Mother inlaw All most in tears. She is so upset over her bill. They will not talk with her or with Me. I old Her to try again in the moring and if they keep telling that She has a DVR Box and will not help to call the Cops.
What can she do?

Email frank_eliason@cable.comcast.com

He is great and will get to the bottom of this.

-Ken

QZ1
03-02-09, 07:53 PM
I have a problem with that wordage, as Comcast does not carry MLB Network on Digital Starter, even though that is what we were led to believe before January 1 by MLB.
Yes, well, in some Comcast areas, I have read of a service called Digital Basic, it has even less channels than Digital Classic, but possibly sometimes it is the same, I don't recall.

I thought the same thing, that by definition this area's basic digital service is Digital Starter, but I figured it would really be on Digital Classic, as that is the traditional basic digital service. But, I do agree they should have at least capitalized it as Digital Basic, and mentioned some areas would be Digital Classic.

A tangential note. The previous two years here, Comcast closed the price gap between Digital Classic and Preferred. As I expected, as of 1 Nov. '08 here, they effectively phased out Digital Classic, automatically upgrading those customers to Digital Preferred. However, they changed the name to Digital Classic, and advertised, 'Digital Classic customers now get many more channels'. More shell games from Comcast.:rolleyes:

To make it more confusing, I chatted and talked to two reps., and they still have the old Classic available for the same price as the new Classic (really Preferred.), and they still call the latter Preferred. Go figure.:D

QZ1
03-02-09, 08:05 PM
My Mother inlaw was charge for a HD/DVR Box from Comcast and She has no DVR Box.

What can she do?
The burden of proof is on them. Do they have a receipt or work
order for that DVR, signed by anyone living there?
Assuming what you have said is true, then of course they don't.

That logic may not work with them, and of course, she may not have any choice but to cancel service. However, then they would still send an imagined 'unreturned DVR fee' to collections. Ultimately, if they have no signed paper, they have nothing, and it should be resolved in her favor.

That is why I know when returning a box, to get receipt and keep it for many years. Of course, that doesn't help in this situation, but you get the idea, that they make errors. Hopefully, someone at Comcast corrects the error.

Ken H
03-02-09, 08:18 PM
The DTAs Comcast are using, that I have seen, have a a choice of Composite video/Stereo audio or RF.

None of the DTA images I could find on the Internet had anything but RF.

bob2274
03-02-09, 09:10 PM
NBA TV near shift to Comcast basic tier



I've seen where the NHL Network is also in the process of selling the big cable companies (through iNDemand) an ownership stake in the channel in exchange for moving off the sports tier. On one hand, this makes a huge case for the NFL Network's discrimination complaint against Comcast. On the other hand, if the NFL would do like every other league and let cable carry the NFL Sunday Ticket, the cable companies would place their channel wherever the league wants.

STVA1
03-02-09, 11:22 PM
Yes, well, in some Comcast areas, I have read of a service called Digital Basic, it has even less channels than Digital Classic, but possibly sometimes it is the same, I don't recall.

I thought the same thing, that by definition this area's basic digital service is Digital Starter, but I figured it would really be on Digital Classic, as that is the traditional basic digital service. But, I do agree they should have at least capitalized it as Digital Basic, and mentioned some areas would be Digital Classic.

A tangential note. The previous two years here, Comcast closed the price gap between Digital Classic and Preferred. As I expected, as of 1 Nov. '08 here, they effectively phased out Digital Classic, automatically upgrading those customers to Digital Preferred. However, they changed the name to Digital Classic, and advertised, 'Digital Classic customers now get many more channels'. More shell games from Comcast.:rolleyes:

To make it more confusing, I chatted and talked to two reps., and they still have the old Classic available for the same price as the new Classic (really Preferred.), and they still call the latter Preferred. Go figure.:D

Thanks for the info. The frustrating part is that Digital Starter + HD actually has almost every channel I want. I have HD versions of everything except HBO/Showtime/NFL Network (maybe I am missing some). Upgrading to Digital Classic would be $15 for stuff I don't really really care about like ESPN Classic. The rep struggled to tell me what channels I would get other than MLB Network.

My hope is that Comcast launches an HD version of the channel soon and that I may get that since I have the HD package. We'll see.

bicker1
03-03-09, 06:32 AM
None of the DTA images I could find on the Internet had anything but RF.This image is from a DCT-700:

http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/images/dct700_back.jpg

I'm not sure if that's what they're using as a DTA though.

sansri88
03-03-09, 06:49 AM
This image is from a DCT-700:

http://broadband.motorola.com/consumers/images/dct700_back.jpg

I'm not sure if that's what they're using as a DTA though.

They use the Pace DC50X for the DTA. The DCT700 is the basic digital STB Comcast offers.

kenvt
03-03-09, 08:16 AM
They use the Pace DC50X for the DTA. The DCT700 is the basic digital STB Comcast offers.

Yup RF only:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21518134-Digital-Transport-Adapter-Unboxing-Photos

Lodef
03-03-09, 10:11 AM
You are assuming everything else is equal, and the competitor is more $, because of box rentals; that is what Comcast would like you to believe.

The fact is, Comcast, at least here, raised the rate of Digital Starter (Digital equivilant of Analog Standard), more than usual the last two years, to account for the eventual adding of two DTAs to the service (in addition to the one included Digital Box).

Here, everyone with Digital Starter will effectively be paying for at least a $3.70 Digital Box, (Digital folks were already; for Analog folks, this is new) and 2 DTAs x $2 = $4. Total is $7.70 in box fees required; however, it isn't itemized, that is the shell game, so one thinks they are 'free'.;)

I remember when Comcast used to advertise that 'we don't charge extra for local channels'. Well, Directv and Dish's prices for the same channels as Comcast (national + local) was less than Comcast's. It is just that the satellite cos. itemized the local channels as another service, effectively giving people the chance to decline them, but instead they were criticized for 'costing extra'.:rolleyes:

Yes that can all be true but the main point I was making is that if Comcast took analog away, there is no other provider that offers it who they would all leave to go to. Most people do not like change, not to mention putting a dish on their house if they wanted to go that route and barring some unreasonable price differential, they are more than likely to stay put. That is just the way things are and have always been when you remove the price factor out of the equation.

QZ1
03-03-09, 06:13 PM
None of the DTA images I could find on the Internet had anything but RF.

Yup RF only:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21518134-Digital-Transport-Adapter-Unboxing-Photos
My mistake, I did see that, but while I knew it was a Pace DC50X, I was remembering the AV options on the Moto DCT700, instead.

QZ1
03-03-09, 06:24 PM
Thanks for the info. The frustrating part is that Digital Starter + HD actually has almost every channel I want. I have HD versions of everything except HBO/Showtime/NFL Network (maybe I am missing some).

Here, and typically elsewhere, you would be missing Science and Natl. Geo., as well, from Digital Classic HD. Also, the other Premiums, Starz, Cinemax, and, The Movie Channel, of course.

Upgrading to Digital Classic would be $15 for stuff I don't really really care about like ESPN Classic. The rep struggled to tell me what channels I would get other than MLB Network.

Here, it is $17, and if you want to know what channels are in a particular service, pick up a channels/services card from Comcast's local office. If a particular channel in too new to be on it, check there site, it sometimes is more up to date, other times it is out of date.

My hope is that Comcast launches an HD version of the channel soon and that I may get that since I have the HD package. We'll see.

If MLB Network is in Digital Classic in your area, then you will almost surely need it to get the (future) HD version.

There is no 'HD package', just an HD Box or CC to provide access to HD channels that are already included in your various subscribed services.

HD channels are typically included with their SD counterpart. HD exclusives are in Digital Starter here, but some or all may be in Digital Classic, somewhere else.

Marcus Carr
03-03-09, 07:04 PM
Comcast to add MASN HD in Charles, Calvert, Frederick, and Carroll County, MD on 4/1.

Also in Charlottesville, Palmyra, Greene Co. and Lake Monticello, VA.

The Comcast Network will require a digital box.

http://www.publicnoticeads.com/MD/search/results.asp?T=PN

http://classifieds.dailyprogress.com/classifieds-bin/classifieds?tp=charlottesville%20va&property=charlottesville%20va&temp_type=detail&classification=announcements,legal%20ads,death%20notices&category_number=0111&orderby=start_date:d&date=today,sunday_before(today),MONDAY_BEFORE(TODAY),TUESDAY _BEFORE(TODAY),WEDNESDAY_BEFORE(TODAY),THURSDAY_BEFORE(TODAY ),FRIDAY_BEFORE(TODAY),SATURDAY_BEFORE(TODAY)

STVA1
03-03-09, 07:27 PM
Here, and typically elsewhere, you would be missing Science and Natl. Geo., as well, from Digital Classic HD. Also, the other Premiums, Starz, Cinemax, and, The Movie Channel, of course.



Here, it is $17, and if you want to know what channels are in a particular service, pick up a channels/services card from Comcast's local office. If a particular channel in too new to be on it, check there site, it sometimes is more up to date, other times it is out of date.



If MLB Network is in Digital Classic in your area, then you will almost surely need it to get the (future) HD version.

There is no 'HD package', just an HD Box or CC to provide access to HD channels that are already included in your various subscribed services.

HD channels are typically included with their SD counterpart. HD exclusives are in Digital Starter here, but some or all may be in Digital Classic, somewhere else.

I receive Science and NatGeo HD on Digital Starter, in Richmond, VA

Sir, I have to say that Comcast does charge me additional for HD channels. Even with an HD Box, or Cable Card, you still have to pay an additional fee.

Comcast is not the same in all areas.

b_scott
03-04-09, 04:47 PM
any news on the MTV networks being added in HD? Namely Comedy Central.

Daniel Murray
03-05-09, 11:23 AM
Ok Comcast will not do anything about my Mother inlaw DVR Box charge when she has no DVR or DVR Service. So She went to the Township and spoke to some people there. They told her that they are getting all kinds of people calling them and telling them that they are being charge for some type of equipment Charge. The funny part my Mother inlaw said the charges are around $25.00 from what the Town told Her. The Township has all ready have the notified the Ploice Dept and they will get intouch with her.

So that is about it for now. I will let you all know what the out come is.

Look at how they tried to get me with a $24.99 Splitter charge last week.

SO LOOK AT YOUR BILL and Make sure you are not getting over Charge by Comcast!!

Lodef
03-05-09, 02:09 PM
Ok Comcast will not do anything about my Mother inlaw DVR Box charge when she has no DVR or DVR Service. So She went to the Township and spoke to some people there. They told her that they are getting all kinds of people calling them and telling them that they are being charge for some type of equipment Charge. The funny part my Mother inlaw said the charges are around $25.00 from what the Town told Her. The Township has all ready have the notified the Ploice Dept and they will get intouch with her.

So that is about it for now. I will let you all know what the out come is.

Look at how they tried to get me with a $24.99 Splitter charge last week.

SO LOOK AT YOUR BILL and Make sure you are not getting over Charge by Comcast!!

Maybe an inside operative for FIOS has taken over the Comcast billing dept. You never know these day! :D

Daniel Murray
03-05-09, 02:43 PM
I WOULD LOVE FOR FIOS to be in my town right about now. I have No clue on what Comcast is doing or up to. But boy they are messing up big time in my town. Now the Town is looking into them with the Police DEPT. SAD SAD SAD!

blitzen102
03-05-09, 05:17 PM
SO LOOK AT YOUR BILL and Make sure you are not getting over Charge by Comcast!!

Well, duh....., people should look at every bill they're paying -- no matter what it's for.

Daniel Murray
03-05-09, 05:45 PM
Well, duh....., people should look at every bill they're paying -- no matter what it's for.

I bet alot of people do not look at there bill from top to bottom. They just pay what they see.

QZ1
03-05-09, 07:09 PM
I receive Science and NatGeo HD on Digital Starter, in Richmond, VA

That is why I only said 'typically', at least as far as I have read.;)

Sir, I have to say that Comcast does charge me additional for HD channels. Even with an HD Box, or Cable Card, you still have to pay an additional fee.

Comcast is not the same in all areas.

I know there are variances by area, however, people with knowledge of Comcast corporate policies, such as moderator Ken H, have said repeatedly that Comcast doesn't have any HD service(s) per se anywhere; rather HD channels are included with SD channels in various services. Whether that is true or not I can't be sure, but I have never heard of any either. The only exception I can think of is when Comcast acquires a system, they choose to, or in some cases, they have to keep certain channels within certain services, for a while, which can include an HD service; I recall this with HDNet. Subsequently, I read that HDNet was moved to either Digital Starter or Digital Classic or discontinued, depending on area.

AVonGauss
03-08-09, 11:47 AM
That is why I only said 'typically', at least as far as I have read.;)

I know there are variances by area, however, people with knowledge of Comcast corporate policies, such as moderator Ken H, have said repeatedly that Comcast doesn't have any HD service(s) per se anywhere; rather HD channels are included with SD channels in various services. Whether that is true or not I can't be sure, but I have never heard of any either. The only exception I can think of is when Comcast acquires a system, they choose to, or in some cases, they have to keep certain channels within certain services, for a while, which can include an HD service; I recall this with HDNet. Subsequently, I read that HDNet was moved to either Digital Starter or Digital Classic or discontinued, depending on area.

Well, you can add another area (Palm Beach, FL) to your list of areas that charges effectively for HD access. I'm including the current charges as well as the original analog extended just for comparisons sake. Granted, the digital preferred is an additional service level than the analog extended, but in my case the bill just about doubled.

Current Charge(s) - 2 TVs w/ HD Receivers:

Digital Preferred - $74.40
Digital Additional Outlet - $6.50
HDTV Additional - $6.95
HDTV Service - $9.95
---
TOTAL Cable Portion - $97.80

Previous Charge(s) - 2 TVs, Analog:

Comcast Classic - $50.95
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TOTAL Cable Portion - $50.95

I haven't done a comparison since November 2008 as I wanted to give Comcast a try first and figuring out their pricing ahead of time is a PITA, but its on my list of things to do this week. For the same or better level of service as Digital Preferred, Comcast in this market comes out at least $25 or higher per month.

QZ1
03-09-09, 06:46 PM
Well, you can add another area (Palm Beach, FL) to your list of areas that charges effectively for HD access.

Current Charge(s) - 2 TVs w/ HD Receivers:

Digital Preferred - $74.40
Digital Additional Outlet - $6.50
HDTV Additional - $6.95
HDTV Service - $9.95
---
TOTAL Cable Portion - $97.80

Previous Charge(s) - 2 TVs, Analog:

Comcast Classic - $50.95
---
TOTAL Cable Portion - $50.95



I will re-iterate, regarding there not being any HD service per se, 'whether that is true or not I can't be sure'.:)

That being said, I have seen several Comcast bills from our region quoted in our local Comcast thread, from subscribers with HD boxes. Depending on system, the only HD line item they had was 'HD Convertor', 'HDTV', or 'HD Service'.

That being the case, whatever they call it, if you have an HD box(es) (the bill quoted shows that you do), and the price is about the same as many other systems (as it is), and there are no other HD line items, (the bill quoted shows that you don't), then that appears to be purely an HD box fee.

Here, if one has a CableCard, there is no 'HD' fee, yet one gets all of the HD channels included in one's services, proving that it is purely an HD box fee. A few CC users who were still billed for 'HD', almost all were able to get the erroneous fee removed. In a few cases, severa; years ago, Comcast took advantage of CC users and wouldn't remove the fee, despite the written terms, not anymore, AFAIK.

Note, our local channels/services card lists in which services the various HD channels are located. However, in the past, even our area, used to list HD channels separately as a group, eventhough there never has been an 'HD service' here.

gakon
03-10-09, 02:47 PM
First official sighting of MLB HD?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16009940#post16009940

No mention of it being on the sports tier here in Denver.

wareagle
03-10-09, 06:39 PM
Coming to Seattle:
April 3 -- MLB-HD, channel 629, Digital Preferred.

Daniel Murray
03-10-09, 07:08 PM
Coming To NJ NOTHING !!!!

sansri88
03-10-09, 07:28 PM
Coming To NJ NOTHING !!!!

Now now, just because they haven't made an announcement yet doesn't mean it's not coming around April 1st.

Remember, Comcast here only needs 24 hrs notice for channel adds.

Daniel Murray
03-10-09, 08:23 PM
But Look at how long since we had any new HD Channels. It has been more than three years for the Garden State system

sansri88
03-10-09, 08:33 PM
But Look at how long since we had any new HD Channels. It has been more than three years for the Garden State system

You have to remember this is a sports network.

When it comes to sports networks, NJ (well, at least my system) is on top of everything. We had the Olympics HD channels, MSG HD channels, etc.

Marcus Carr
03-11-09, 04:43 AM
TBN Signs Carriage Agreement with Comcast to Provide Cable Subscribers with High-Quality Faith and Family Channels

LOS ANGELES, Mar. 11 /Standard Newswire/ -- Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN), the world's largest religious network and leading provider of faith and family programming, announced that it has signed an affiliation agreement with Comcast, the nation's leading provider of entertainment, information, and communication products and services, allowing TBN to pursue carriage directly with Comcast systems for their faith-and-family channels.

The agreement means that TBN has the right to enter into discussions with Comcast's cable affiliates, which would have access to TBN's flagship network, the top rated faith-and family channel in the nation. The affiliates would also be able to provide their subscribers with TBN's four other digital faith channels: Smile of a Child, TBN's kid's network featuring high quality cartoons, character-based shows, and educational programs for children two to 12 years old; JCTV, the cutting-edge youth network packed with music videos and fast-moving programs for teens and young adults; The Church Channel, TBN's 24-hour network featuring multi-denominational church services; and TBN Enlace USA, America's premier Spanish-language faith network.

In addition, the affiliates would have access to TBN-HD, the first faith-based channel totally dedicated to high definition programming, as well as TBN Video-on-Demand, exclusive content featuring some of the most popular programs that have aired on all of TBN's networks.

Paul Crouch Jr., TBN's Vice President of Administration, noted that for over 35 years TBN has been blazing the trail for religious and faith-based broadcasting. "This agreement has the outstanding potential of giving Comcast subscribers the broadest range of faith and family-friendly viewing options in the cable industry," he said.

Bob Higley, TBN's Vice President for Cable and Satellite Relations, pointed out that TBN has consistently stayed on the cutting edge by adding and maintaining high-quality channels that appeal to a wide range of cable subscribers. "We're proud to be providing Comcast affiliates with the opportunity to bring their subscribers the best faith and family channels and programming available in any market," said Higley.

http://www.earnedmedia.org/tbn0311.htm

hdguru
03-11-09, 10:57 AM
When Paul Crouch Sr. stops wearing those $300 silk shirts and Jan gives up her "Tammy Faye", deja vu makeup, there may...in fact...be a major religious revelation. Not to mention that when it comes to on-air "mooching", TBN makes PBS stations look like amateurs. TBN owns a local broadcaster that actually has an "educational" license, so we already get them on Comcast. "Must carry" wasted bandwidth.

Marcus Carr
03-12-09, 09:41 AM
NFL Network steps up carriage talks

By JOHN OURAND

Staff writer

Published March 09, 2009 : Page 04

NFL Network is facing the loss of 2 million more subscribers next month when its carriage contract with Comcast ends.

With its deadline coming by the end of April, some of the NFL’s top executives have stepped up their negotiating efforts to convince Comcast to cut a deal that would put the channel on its digital basic tier.

Currently, Comcast carries the channel on its sports tier. The NFL has said that it would not cut a new deal that would keep the channel on Comcast’s sports tier.

If Comcast drops the network, that would mean that only one of the top nine MSOs — Cox Communications — would have a deal with NFL Network. The Cox deal is up in 2011.

Last year, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell put NFL Network’s total distribution at 35 million homes.

At the end of last month, Comcast sources said that some of the NFL’s top executives, including Goodell, New England Patriots owner and NFL broadcast committee chairman Robert Kraft and Dallas Cowboys owner and NFL Network committee chairman Jerry Jones, visited the operator’s Philadelphia offices to try to complete a last-ditch deal.

By all accounts, the talks did not progress far, and some Comcast insiders expect that the operator will not work out a deal, which means it would drop the channel next month from its digital sports tier, which has about 2 million subscribers.

Meanwhile, the NFL has continued talks with Fox about the broadcaster taking an equity stake in the channel, which would allow Fox to wield more leverage with cable operators (see SportsBusiness Journal, Jan. 26-Feb. 1 issue). While the Fox talks are ongoing, sources say they are nowhere close to cutting a deal.

The NFL held similar talks with ESPN, but those ended early last year and have not been resuscitated.

NFL Network’s most immediate concern, however, is Comcast, which originally launched the channel in 2004 to a digital tier that reached 10 million homes.

Comcast eventually moved the channel to its digital sports tier, a move that caused the NFL to file a complaint with the Federal Communications Commission. Next month, an administrative law judge is scheduled to hear the complaint about whether Comcast had the contractual right to move NFL Network to a sports tier. The judge’s hearing coincides with the end of NFL Network’s contract.

The judge’s decision, however, will have no bearing on whether Comcast cuts a new NFL Network deal, according to several media sources.

It’s unclear if the league’s out-of-market Sunday Ticket package would be part of the league’s negotiations. DirecTV has exclusive access to the package through the 2010 season.

But other leagues have used their out-of-market packages as leverage to convince cable operators to grant carriage to their league-owned channels, including Major League Baseball, which launched MLB Network to 50 million homes in January.

The NBA also is using its League Pass package as an incentive for Comcast to take their channel off of a sports tier. A deal that would move NBA TV to Comcast’s D-1 tier is expected before the next basketball season starts.

http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/61770

scanpa
03-12-09, 01:02 PM
Comcast needs to just drop the sports tier and place those networks back in there normal locations.

CRT Dude
03-12-09, 02:31 PM
Its only fair that everyone subsidizes a channel that only some watch. And does anyone watch this when the season is over?

n o o d l z
03-12-09, 04:24 PM
Did anyone else's HD DVR guide/menus change? The quick menu is different (now has page up/page down buttons for no apparent reason, no DVR button, etc.)...and when I click "My DVR" on the remote, it goes straight to my recordings rather than giving me the option to view scheduled recordings and series priority (DVR options are now gone from the main menu as well). I don't remember the box model but its the newer Motorola...Salt Lake City area.

blitzen102
03-12-09, 04:28 PM
Did anyone else's HD DVR guide/menus change? The quick menu is different (now has page up/page down buttons for no apparent reason, no DVR button, etc.)...and when I click "My DVR" on the remote, it goes straight to my recordings rather than giving me the option to view scheduled recordings and series priority (DVR options are now gone from the main menu as well). I don't remember the box model but its the newer Motorola...Salt Lake City area.

What are your software/firmware versions?

How To Check Your Firmware and Software Versions (i-Guide)

1.Press the "Menu" button TWICE on the remote to get to the "Main Menu".
2. Arrow down if necessary and select the "Setup" menu on the bottom left.
3. Arrow down once and select the second option, "Cable box setup".
4. Arrow down to the bottom and select the "Select to display" button for the "Configuration" option.

Second down on the left is "S/W Ver". This is your software version.
Sixth down on the right is "Firmware". This is your firmware version.

hdguru
03-12-09, 05:21 PM
In their Houston system, Comcast is almost 100% Scientific Atlanta, which was purchased by Cisco early in 2008. Beginning in Sept, Comcast began distributing the rng-200 DVR's, which are the first to have MPEG-4 capability.

Since their introduction, there have been a multitude of issues such as: constant audio dropouts, channel freeze within 15 sec of changing the channel, some channels on some boxes never seem to work; playback of recorded programs that will not restart if paused; DVR controls that get confused and are eventually acted upon as much as a minute later. Plus a wide variety of secondary issues.

I'd like to hear from any other areas of the country where Comcast has distributed these boxes. There are a relatively large group of Houston/Comcast subs who are really putting the pressure on the local brass to solve the issues and would appreciate your feedback.

Please feel free to post here or PM me.

n o o d l z
03-12-09, 09:53 PM
What are your software/firmware versions?

How To Check Your Firmware and Software Versions (i-Guide)

1.Press the "Menu" button TWICE on the remote to get to the "Main Menu".
2. Arrow down if necessary and select the "Setup" menu on the bottom left.
3. Arrow down once and select the second option, "Cable box setup".
4. Arrow down to the bottom and select the "Select to display" button for the "Configuration" option.

Second down on the left is "S/W Ver". This is your software version.
Sixth down on the right is "Firmware". This is your firmware version.

S/W: 75.59, FW: 18.43

Its a DCH3416, newer style box. I also have a DCT3416 that does not have the menu changes, it has the same S/W version, but different firmware (16.53).

Morac
03-13-09, 11:02 AM
The following was in yesterday's local paper. The announcement was misleading as it implied many channels are being added to Comcast of Garden State when they are only being added to Comcast of Maple Shade so I took the liberty of breaking out those channels and listing them separately. And yes, I realize that Comcast of Garden State is getting jilted.


The following expanded service channels are only being added to Comcast of Maple Shade on April 1, 2009:

AMC-HD (185)
Science HD (194)
ABC Famliy HD (195)
Food HD (216)
History Channel HD (217)
CNN HD (221)
USA HD (222)
Discovery HD (224)
Sci-Fi HD (226)
Animal Planet HD (230)
Disney Channel HD (239)


The following expanded service channel is being added to both systems on April 1, 2009:

HGTV HD (213)


The following limited basic channels are being added to both systems on or after April 14, 2009:

WYBE Global (263)
WYBE Health (264)
WYBE Mind2 (265)


While not HD releated, for the sake of completeness, here's the rest of the announcement.

The following channels are moving to the digital starter line up on April 14th:

Bloomberg (103)
C-Span 3 (105)
LMN (119)
Hallmark (137)
Jewelry (184, 282)
ShopNBC (283)
Daystar (287)

The following channels are moving on April 14th to make room for the above and future channels:

Big Ten Network 257 -> 715
TVG Interactive Horse Racing 260-> 718
Fox College Sports (Atlantic) 262 -> 720
Fox College Sports (Central) 263 -> 721
Fox College Sports (Pacific) 264 -> 722
ESPN Classic 265 -> 723
Fox Soccer Channel 267 -> 725
Gol TV 268 -> 726
NBA TV 273 -> 731
CBS College Sports 274 -> 732
NFL Network 275 -> 733
NHL Network 276 -> 734
The Tennis Channel 277 -> 735
MLB Network 280 -> 738

WHYY Y Arts 241 -> 257
WHYY Y Ingo 242 -> 258
WNJN-DT 243 -> 261
NJN2 244 -> 262

WYBE (98) will be digital only as of April 14th.

Daniel Murray
03-13-09, 06:47 PM
I am Speaking For Most of US who are on the Garden State system Comcast can KISS MY A$$ Left out again:eek::D

sansri88
03-13-09, 07:58 PM
Just a hunch, with Jersey City having an advert in the Jersey Journal yesterday, I'm expecting a newspaper ad tomorrow in the Star Ledger for the Union system.

dyhrdmet
03-13-09, 08:05 PM
Just a hunch, with Jersey City having an advert in the Jersey Journal yesterday, I'm expecting a newspaper ad tomorrow in the Star Ledger for the Union system.

I hope so.

hdguru
03-14-09, 11:42 AM
I am Speaking For Most of US who are on the Garden State system Comcast can KISS MY A$$ Left out again:eek::D

Daniel: I realize that CC can be terribly frustrating; however, it isn't like life and death. Keep the pressure on them, and in the meantime, go to the local convenience store and pick up a 6-pack of "patience" and relax a little. We don't want you to have to hunt and peck messages to us from the cardiac ward of a NJ hospital.

Regards from Texas,

Guru

Ken H
03-17-09, 06:22 PM
From Sports Media Watch
Comcast customers could lose NFL Net.

The good news for the NFL: the NFL Network may soon be leaving Comcast's sports tier. The bad news: the NFL Network may be leaving Comcast altogether.

The NFL Network's contract with Comcast ends in April, and the NFL "has said that it would not cut a new deal that would keep the channel on Comcast’s sports tier." Comcast sources told the Sports Business Journal that several high-ranking NFL officials, including Commissioner Roger Goodell, "visited [Comcast's] Philadelphia offices" last month to "try to complete a last-ditch deal."

Despite those efforts, Comcast insiders were pessimistic about a deal being done.

While the NFL Network has clashed with Comcast, Major League Baseball and the NBA have been far more successful. MLB used its MLB Extra Innings package as leverage to get cable operators to carry NFL Network. Similarly, the NBA threatened not to renew its NBA League Pass deal with Comcast unless NBA TV was moved onto the digital basic tier, a move that is now expected by this spring.

According to the Sports Business Journal, it is "unclear if the [NFL's] out-of-market Sunday Ticket package would be part of the league’s negotiations" with Comcast.

Should Comcast drop NFL Network, it would result in a loss of 2 million subscribers.

bicker1
03-17-09, 06:49 PM
Whatever they do, at the rate they're charging MSOs, all I care about is that I not be forced to subsidize NFL Network.

LongRufus
03-18-09, 03:14 AM
Should Comcast drop NFL Network, it would result in a loss of 2 million subscribers.

Does this mean Comcast has 2 million Sports Pack subscribers? Either way, I think the NFL blinks on this one and agrees to stay on the sports tier.

slowbiscuit
03-18-09, 07:47 AM
They need to add Sunday Ticket to get Comcast to blink, but I don't think that's happening. And I don't blame Comcast at all because this has been a greedy power play by the NFL from the beginning.

Lodef
03-18-09, 10:58 AM
Yup, I have been on Comcast's side since the beginning of this. I had predicted when push came to shove that Comcast would tell them to take a walk and it sure looks like that may happen now. Good for them!

hdguru
03-18-09, 11:47 AM
I'm with Comcast on this one. I have no interest in subsidizing the NFL network. If the NFL threw in Sunday Ticket, then for the sake of my football crazed friends, I'd be willing to go along with it.

comcast user
03-18-09, 01:55 PM
Why are you on Comcast's side? They want people to pay more to watch a channel that Direct TV and Dish offer at no extra charge. The NFL wants the channel to be on the basic packages without having to pay for a sports tier. If it's added to the normal lineup, you would have an extra channel. With all the pay increases with Comcast and no new channels, I think it would be refreshing to actually get more for my money even if I don't watch the channel.

hdguru
03-18-09, 02:02 PM
Why are you on Comcast's side? They want people to pay more to watch a channel that Direct TV and Dish offer at no extra charge. The NFL wants the channel to be on the basic packages without having to pay for a sports tier. If it's added to the normal lineup, you would have an extra channel. With all the pay increases with Comcast and no new channels, I think it would be refreshing to actually get more for my money even if I don't watch the channel.

To quote my dad, "it's all in the cost of the goods." Meaning, nothing is "FREE", Comcast will simply continue to raise rates to cover their added costs. Finally...and I mean after a long wait, we are about to get between 20-25 new HD channels by @ May 1. Do I think Comcast makes some bone-head moves, you bet, but they can be dealt with...even though it's like dealing with the Federal Government's bureaucracy.

dyhrdmet
03-18-09, 02:18 PM
Why are you on Comcast's side? They want people to pay more to watch a channel that Direct TV and Dish offer at no extra charge. The NFL wants the channel to be on the basic packages without having to pay for a sports tier. If it's added to the normal lineup, you would have an extra channel. With all the pay increases with Comcast and no new channels, I think it would be refreshing to actually get more for my money even if I don't watch the channel.

this is the game they're playing.

NFL Network wants more (potential) eyeballs on their programming to get more from advertisers and more in subscriber fees, so they think it should be on a lower tier. they get that money per subscriber regardless if the person actually watches the programming (since it's not a la carte).

Comcast doesn't want to force that extra money on the large percentage of customers who don't actually want the channel, so they put it on the sports tier, packaged with similar channels (with smaller egos). on the flip side, Comcast probably does make some profit on the sports tier, especially if you buy it for only one channel, and can use NFL Network as a way to get subscribers to buy the tier.

when the programming and MSOs play this game, usually the customers end up getting hurt.

keenan
03-18-09, 02:25 PM
I'm with Comcast on this one. I have no interest in subsidizing the NFL network. If the NFL threw in Sunday Ticket, then for the sake of my football crazed friends, I'd be willing to go along with it.

Setting aside the utter lack of real content on the NFL channel, what about ESPN? Over 90 mil subscribers subsidize that channel at around $4 a pop for the less than 30 mil that actually watch it.

The NFL should have shared the ownership of the channel like MLB did and the problem would have been solved, especially for a channel that has nearly nothing on it.

blitzen102
03-18-09, 02:28 PM
Why are you on Comcast's side? They want people to pay more to watch a channel that Direct TV and Dish offer at no extra charge. The NFL wants the channel to be on the basic packages without having to pay for a sports tier. If it's added to the normal lineup, you would have an extra channel. With all the pay increases with Comcast and no new channels, I think it would be refreshing to actually get more for my money even if I don't watch the channel.

Wow. THAT's over-simplifying things.

They want people to pay more to watch a channel that Direct TV and Dish offer at no extra charge.

They ARE paying for it, though, right? Somehow it is being paid for -- whether just a group of people receiving a certain tier of service - or the cost is spread accros ALL subscribers.

The NFL Network has a relatively high per-subscriber fee, Comcast doesn 't want to charge every customer it has to cover this fee. It feels only the Customers that want the channel should pay.

Makes sense to me.

comcast user
03-18-09, 03:08 PM
what about all the useless channels on the basic package that we have to pay for and not watch? The cable systems need to go to a la carte lineup. The only ones hurt are the subscribers that pay $70/month for 10-15 channels watched. The other channels are worthless.

Renagade
03-18-09, 03:12 PM
Those useless channels are part of a package of channels that people do watch. Usually for Comcast to get the channel they do want they end up having to carry channels they don't want in order to get them.

blitzen102
03-18-09, 03:29 PM
what about all the useless channels on the basic package that we have to pay for and not watch? The cable systems need to go to a la carte lineup. The only ones hurt are the subscribers that pay $70/month for 10-15 channels watched. The other channels are worthless.

Who gets to decide which channels are useless and worthless? You?

As far as a la carte,

http://www.modmyi.com/forums/attachments/general-iphone-chat/3943d1196266766-any-way-attach-beating_a_dead_horse.jpg

Or, maybe, preaching to the choir.

"Needing to go to a la carte" doesn't change today's reality.

DeltaBill
03-18-09, 05:13 PM
Be careful for what you wish! I have read several articles on A La Carte cable TV and most all believe the number of stations would be reduced and only a small percentage of subscribers would have there bills lowered. Most subscribers would be force to drop channels they occasionally watch in order to keep their bills the same. Start-up and specialty channels would either have to have tons of advertising or cease to exist. Now I am no fan of the current structure, but from what I have seen, A La Carte would be even worse.

dyhrdmet
03-18-09, 05:36 PM
Be careful for what you wish! I have read several articles on A La Carte cable TV and most all believe the number of stations would be reduced and only a small percentage of subscribers would have there bills lowered. Most subscribers would be force to drop channels they occasionally watch in order to keep their bills the same. Start-up and specialty channels would either have to have tons of advertising or cease to exist. Now I am no fan of the current structure, but from what I have seen, A La Carte would be even worse.

exactly - because those "useless", or less-watched channels would not get the subscriber fees from customers who don't want them, effectively putting them out of business or turning them into a cable version of PBS. when a ton of channels are bundled together in a broader digital package, the cable company can make a profit for it, and each of these channels gets their piece. and we get 500 channels and still nothing to watch.

LongRufus
03-18-09, 07:48 PM
They need to add Sunday Ticket to get Comcast to blink, but I don't think that's happening. And I don't blame Comcast at all because this has been a greedy power play by the NFL from the beginning.

Just to be clear, I think there is zero chance of Comcast adding the NFL Network to basic without getting the Sunday Ticket in return. I also think the chances of the NFL offering them the Sunday Ticket are zero. Obviously, that means the NFL Network is not moving to basic on Comcast. That leaves only 2 choices, Comcast drops the NFL Network entirely or the NFL agrees to stay on the sports tier. This is where I think the NFL blinks and agrees to stay on sports tier, probably with a bump of a dollar or two to their monthly fees, which Comcast will just tack on to the sports tier package.

Marcus Carr
03-19-09, 02:24 AM
Comcast has announced that it will launch high-definition television service today, bringing HDTV programming access from Fox News, Travel Channel, National Geographic, Food Network and CNN to customers in Portales.

http://www.pntonline.com/news/comcast_16830___article.html/hdtv_geographic.html

johnovox
03-19-09, 09:48 AM
I don't see the difference between the NFL and the MLB/NBA deals for the subscriber, other than the fact that comcast does not get NFL Sunday Ticket. That's the real issue. But that is not an issue that has any relevance for the general subscriber.

dyhrdmet
03-19-09, 12:08 PM
I don't see the difference between the NFL and the MLB/NBA deals for the subscriber, other than the fact that comcast does not get NFL Sunday Ticket. That's the real issue. But that is not an issue that has any relevance for the general subscriber.

I believe the cable companies own a stake in MLB Network, and the NFL has a huge ego. MLB used the new network as a bargaining chip in the Extra Innings package 2 years ago, and NBA TV is looking to drop off the sports tier because it's become trendy to do so.

JDLIVE
03-19-09, 12:21 PM
Be careful for what you wish! I have read several articles on A La Carte cable TV and most all believe the number of stations would be reduced and only a small percentage of subscribers would have there bills lowered. Most subscribers would be force to drop channels they occasionally watch in order to keep their bills the same. Start-up and specialty channels would either have to have tons of advertising or cease to exist. Now I am no fan of the current structure, but from what I have seen, A La Carte would be even worse.

Agreed that a la carte is probably not feasible, but I'd like better bundled choices that are more sensible. As a sports fan, I have to get digital classic, then the "expanded basic" lineup, plus the "sports tier" to get all the sports channels I want. There are only one or two channels in the "expanded basic" that I really want (ESPN2 and The Golf Channel), yet I have to pay $40/mo for those. Instead, put together some bundled option that gets me those two along with the other sports related channels.

hdguru
03-19-09, 12:42 PM
Everyone would want their "bundle" to include different channels, and we'd be back to a la carte. Frustrating...but true. Also...like many restaurants, our friends at either cable or sat providers want an "minimum ticket". The restaurant expects to get a minimum amount per customer, and their menu is priced toward that end. Comcast is no different. Unless you have only analog/basic, their cost per subscriber is fixed, other than PPV, On Demand and Premium. They intend to get their "return"...one way or the other, and those STB's are not "free" to them...along with the huge investment in infrastructure and staff. I'm not taking up for them...just presenting the situation in other terms.

Having just received my $100+ monthly invoice (TV only...no phone or Internet), it really makes me think about the "value proposition" in today's economy. Now that's something that I have recently reminded the local Comcast management about. Personally, I think they're about 20% too high!

QZ1
03-19-09, 12:59 PM
Agreed that a la carte is probably not feasible, but I'd like better bundled choices that are more sensible.

Instead, put together some bundled option that gets me those two along with the other sports related channels.

Everyone would want their "bundle" to include different channels, and we'd be back to a la carte.
No, we wouldn't, we'd be at smaller groups of channels (services). Others have previously suggested that they bundle like channels into one service, so people don't have to get several services to get one genre of channels, say sports, for example. Conversely, taking out ESPN, for example, saves a lot of $ for people who don't want any sports.

There is still the issue of separating channels, and like anyhting else, it won't please nearly everyone, but it would be better, IMHO. The drawback is that people will inevitably not choose certain genre services, which, if they were included, they would stumble upon, and maybe broaden their horizons, or at least entertainment.;)

Brian Conrad
03-19-09, 05:05 PM
Because big companies like Comcast are clumsly and slow at adapting to the changes in technology and marketplace economics they may well be doomed. More and more I read of people who two years ago couldn't care less about their $100+ cable bill trying to decide what is really worth watching anymore. For instance, how many will drop Expanded Basic after this Friday when the final episdoe of BSG airs? Is it really worth the extra money just to watch Sci-Fi (wait around for the new Syfy) after BSG goes away? I too look at all those channels I get on Expanded Basic that I never watch. And some folks are talking about going back to just Limited Basic. Handing in their DVRs and watching stuff on BD, DVD and other VOD services.

This whole model needs to be reworking and companies should (and I assume have) been sinking some money into research to see what is needed to stay afloat. I think the remedy to ala carte is expanded VOD. Those networks who won't survive without being bundled in a package may well be able to far less expensively with VOD if implemented the way it should be and that is where anyone can be a player.

Gt1racer
03-20-09, 09:26 AM
Comcast finally flew an important message to it's customers!

"In spite of our efforts to continue carrying NFLN/NFLNHD, NFL may terminate our rights. As a result These Networks may be removed as soon as 5/1/09"

chitchatjf
03-20-09, 04:28 PM
Comcast finally flew an important message to it's customers!

"In spite of our efforts to continue carrying NFLN/NFLNHD, NFL may terminate our rights. As a result These Networks may be removed as soon as 5/1/09"

Thankfully I have FIOS.

OTOH when I did have Comcast I DID get SnE and understand WHY NFL is there as opposed to Digital Classicd or Starter.

sansri88
03-20-09, 06:07 PM
Hey! Here's the good side to it...Comcast can finally add an HD channel that's worth watching (instead of the crap NFL Network).

keenan
03-20-09, 06:09 PM
Hey! Here's the good side to it...Comcast can finally add an HD channel that's worth watching (instead of the crap NFL Network).

Yes, but not in New Jersey. :p:D

sansri88
03-20-09, 06:10 PM
Yes, but not in New Jersey. :p:D

That's true. I'm still mystified at what the holdup is...

Someone told me that they were doing upgrades and node work in the Union system but they weren't 100% positive.

keenan
03-20-09, 06:18 PM
That's true. I'm still mystified at what the holdup is...

Someone told me that they were doing upgrades and node work in the Union system but they weren't 100% positive.

I feel the pain, on my system(Santa Rosa, CA) we went years before anything happened, all the while most all of the areas around us were getting "bloated" with HD channels - we had about 10-11(including locals).

Now, since we were upgraded to 1GHz, we're getting channels the other, "older" systems are not.

dyhrdmet
03-20-09, 07:33 PM
That's true. I'm still mystified at what the holdup is...

Someone told me that they were doing upgrades and node work in the Union system but they weren't 100% positive.

sometimes i wonder if Comcast isn't more than an empty store front here. then they cash my check, so someone must be there.

I can't remember the last time we saw a post saying that some area is getting lots of HD channels.

Gt1racer
03-20-09, 08:19 PM
sometimes i wonder if Comcast isn't more than an empty store front here. then they cash my check, so someone must be there.

I can't remember the last time we saw a post saying that some area is getting lots of HD channels.

I'm with you all Massachusetts has got nothing yet about HD Adds. especially the DTA Conversion! The comcast rep said she has no timetable which really stinks. Something is really fishy about this DTA conversion.

blitzen102
03-20-09, 08:36 PM
I'm with you all Massachusetts has got nothing yet about HD Adds. especially the DTA Conversion! The comcast rep said she has no timetable which really stinks. Something is really fishy about this DTA conversion.

How's it fishy? Comcast's internal name for the DTA conversion is "Project Cavlary". To me, this sounds like they have a team or teams of engineers (regiments ;)) that will ride into Comcast cities and do the conversion (with the local engineers' assistance), then move on to other cities.

How many DTA conversions are in flight now? Bay Area, Chattanooga, areas of NJ - any others? I'm guessing it is more than one regiment.

Gt1racer
03-20-09, 09:07 PM
This what the rep told me

Unfortunately we do not at this time. We know that a few areas will be done at a time but we do not which areas will be upgraded first. I apologize for this inconvenience.

But that is just one person anything could happen it's just fishy in my opinion :o and Massachusetts is not on the radar anytime soon!

bicker1
03-21-09, 06:32 AM
I can't remember the last time we saw a post saying that some area is getting lots of HD channels.There aren't "lots of [worthwhile] HD channels" left to add, here in Mass.

Lodef
03-21-09, 09:41 AM
There aren't "lots of [worthwhile] HD channels" left to add, here in Mass.

Many would disagree with that statement. It's all personal preference and you know that bick.

Pfdjr1
03-21-09, 10:03 AM
Many would disagree with that statement. It's all personal preference and you know that bick.

What HD channels dont you have that you would like to have??

Gt1racer
03-21-09, 10:36 AM
What HD channels dont you have that you would like to have??

I would love to have TWC lHDl right now. :D

bicker1
03-21-09, 01:21 PM
And people can evaluate the importance of such preferences, Gt, for themselves.

Hardcore Legend
03-21-09, 10:11 PM
What HD channels dont you have that you would like to have??

I know I don't live in your area, but for me:

STO HD
FSNOhio HD
ESPNewsHD
MGMHD
BravoHD
WeatherChannelHD
NBA TV HD
MLB Network HD

bob2274
03-22-09, 09:13 PM
For everyone who praises Verizon for anything they do, I was at a relative's house tonight and found out something pretty important. With Verizon, just because you get a channel doesn't mean you get it in HD. I was trying to see the spring training game on MLB HD, and even though the regular version is standard, the HD version required an extra package. Verizon does include the standards in HD like the ESPN's, local channels, Big Ten (nationally), TBS, TNT, Universal HD, and one of our our regional sports networks, CSN DC. Of course, the almighty NFL Network and its eight live games are included in HD for everyone. Just to name a few, here are some channels that aren't included even if you get the regular version-
MLB HD
WGN America HD
Versus HD
Golf HD
Fox Business HD
Fox News HD
Planet Green HD
ABC Family HD
There are many others, but I didn't write them all down. I know that anyone posting here would most likely pay the extra money for the HD channels, but I just wanted to point this out since no one will ever say anything negative about Verizon.

dyhrdmet
03-22-09, 10:20 PM
For everyone who praises Verizon for anything they do, I was at a relative's house tonight and found out something pretty important. With Verizon, just because you get a channel doesn't mean you get it in HD. I was trying to see the spring training game on MLB HD, and even though the regular version is standard, the HD version required an extra package. Verizon does include the standards in HD like the ESPN's, local channels, Big Ten (nationally), TBS, TNT, Universal HD, and one of our our regional sports networks, CSN DC. Of course, the almighty NFL Network and its eight live games are included in HD for everyone. Just to name a few, here are some channels that aren't included even if you get the regular version-
MLB HD
WGN America HD
Versus HD
Golf HD
Fox Business HD
Fox News HD
Planet Green HD
ABC Family HD
There are many others, but I didn't write them all down. I know that anyone posting here would most likely pay the extra money for the HD channels, but I just wanted to point this out since no one will ever say anything negative about Verizon.

while that may be true, what the Verizon customers get without that extra package is much much better than (at least) some Comcast systems have now. if comcast went and added (and I hate to give them this idea) a lineup of HD on a separate, more expensive tier, right now, i'd call it progress. it's all perception.

bob2274
03-22-09, 10:52 PM
Comcast is in a trick box. If they charge extra for HD, we're outraged. If they remove analog channels or require converter boxes, we're outraged. If they don't add more HD channels, they're the worst. If they add more HD channels, we say that they've compromised picture quality and/or the channels have too little HD.
Verizon has a huge advantage with perception because all of these packages are there when people sign up for the service. There's absolutely no way Comcast can chop up their packages like Verizon does, since the people (like us) who are used to the way things are would never stand for it.

Daniel Murray
03-22-09, 11:03 PM
How I look at it they still have more HD Channels than ME.

Lodef
03-23-09, 10:46 AM
For everyone who praises Verizon for anything they do, I was at a relative's house tonight and found out something pretty important. With Verizon, just because you get a channel doesn't mean you get it in HD. I was trying to see the spring training game on MLB HD, and even though the regular version is standard, the HD version required an extra package. Verizon does include the standards in HD like the ESPN's, local channels, Big Ten (nationally), TBS, TNT, Universal HD, and one of our our regional sports networks, CSN DC. Of course, the almighty NFL Network and its eight live games are included in HD for everyone. Just to name a few, here are some channels that aren't included even if you get the regular version-
MLB HD
WGN America HD
Versus HD
Golf HD
Fox Business HD
Fox News HD
Planet Green HD
ABC Family HD
There are many others, but I didn't write them all down. I know that anyone posting here would most likely pay the extra money for the HD channels, but I just wanted to point this out since no one will ever say anything negative about Verizon.

You get them all with the Extreme HD package along with the better PQ and less price than what your paying for the far fewer Comcast ones. You were right though when you first said there is nothing negative about it! ;)

Renagade
03-24-09, 11:57 AM
Looks like Comcast will end up dropping the NFL channel after this news.
Unless the NFL backs down (which I dought) They'll be switching it off.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/03/23/the-nfl-and-directv-extend-exclusive-sunday-ticket-through-2014/

Feddie
03-24-09, 12:31 PM
Looks like Comcast will end up dropping the NFL channel after this news.
Unless the NFL backs down (which I dought) They'll be switching it off.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/03/23/the-nfl-and-directv-extend-exclusive-sunday-ticket-through-2014/

The NFL only cares about itself with their exclusive deals. I hope fans realize that.

McDonoughDawg
03-24-09, 03:58 PM
Looks like Comcast will end up dropping the NFL channel after this news.
Unless the NFL backs down (which I dought) They'll be switching it off.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/03/23/the-nfl-and-directv-extend-exclusive-sunday-ticket-through-2014/

I could care less..and I'm glad Comcast doesn't make me pay to watch NFL on the NFL Network.

satpro
03-24-09, 05:43 PM
Looks like Comcast will end up dropping the NFL channel after this news.
Unless the NFL backs down (which I dought) They'll be switching it off.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/03/23/the-nfl-and-directv-extend-exclusive-sunday-ticket-through-2014/

Hooray one less special niche channel, maybe now they can add something in its place that everyone will watch like CNN-HD.

Hardcore Legend
03-25-09, 01:09 AM
Hooray one less special niche channel, maybe now they can add something in its place that everyone will watch like CNN-HD.

I already have CNN-HD.

Daniel Murray
03-25-09, 07:16 AM
OK this is my list of HD Channels that has not change in more than two years.
I would love to see some thing new. It has been to long since we seen any thing new but are bill just keeps getting bigger.

200 Comcast Sportsnet HD High-Definition TV
202 ESPN HD High-Definition TV
203 ESPN 2 HD High-Definition TV
204 TNT HD High-Definition TV
205 HD Theater High-Definition TV
206 Versus High-Definition TV
207 Golf HD
208 Universal HD High-Definition TV
209 MHD Music
215 & 300 HBO HD High-Definition TV
223 & 339 Showtime HD High-Definition TV
227 & 369 STARZ HD High-Definition TV
231 WPVI-DT (ABC-HD)* High-Definition TV
232 WCAU-DT (NBC-HD)* High-Definition TV
233 KYW-DT (CBS-HD)* High-Definition TV
234 WTXF-DT (FOX-HD)* High-Definition TV
235 WPHL-DT (WB-HD)* High-Definition TV
236 WPSG-DT (UPN-HD)* High-Definition TV
240 WHYY-DT (PBS-HD)* High-Definition TV

jrusnak
03-25-09, 12:04 PM
That's why I switched to FiOS. It was nice to see the final few episodes of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA in HD. You can check to link below to see if it is available in your area. (They're also giving you $150 to sign up!)

http://www22.verizon.com/Residential/FiOSTV/Check_Availability/Check_Availability.htm

OK this is my list of HD Channels that has not change in more than two years.
I would love to see some thing new. It has been to long since we seen any thing new but are bill just keeps getting bigger.

200 Comcast Sportsnet HD High-Definition TV
202 ESPN HD High-Definition TV
203 ESPN 2 HD High-Definition TV
204 TNT HD High-Definition TV
205 HD Theater High-Definition TV
206 Versus High-Definition TV
207 Golf HD
208 Universal HD High-Definition TV
209 MHD Music
215 & 300 HBO HD High-Definition TV
223 & 339 Showtime HD High-Definition TV
227 & 369 STARZ HD High-Definition TV
231 WPVI-DT (ABC-HD)* High-Definition TV
232 WCAU-DT (NBC-HD)* High-Definition TV
233 KYW-DT (CBS-HD)* High-Definition TV
234 WTXF-DT (FOX-HD)* High-Definition TV
235 WPHL-DT (WB-HD)* High-Definition TV
236 WPSG-DT (UPN-HD)* High-Definition TV
240 WHYY-DT (PBS-HD)* High-Definition TV

Daniel Murray
03-25-09, 12:41 PM
They have bin working on the lines on the polls since July.

blitzen102
03-25-09, 01:38 PM
Not to be a jerk, but is anybody else getting tired of this thread being turned into a "What is Daniel Murray's complaint THIS week?" thread?

Also, most times the complaint is the exact same thing, he is not happy with the amount of HD channels he recieves from Comcast. Breaking news: most of us aren't.

Lodef
03-25-09, 02:30 PM
Not to be a jerk, but is anybody else getting tired of this thread being turned into a "What is Daniel Murray's complaint THIS week?" thread?

Also, most times the complaint is the exact same thing, he is not happy with the amount of HD channels he recieves from Comcast. Breaking news: most of us aren't.

Looking at that pathetic line up he has, he has every right to complain even for Comcast standards. I went with Fios even with far more channels than he has. I'll say it again for the 100th time, Comcast was caught with their pants down regarding the conversion to digital and Daniels case is a perfect example of that poor planning. He is not alone and the steady stream of subs leaving them is a testament to that!

Daniel Murray
03-25-09, 03:33 PM
Looking at that pathetic line up he has, he has every right to complain even for Comcast standards. I went with Fios even with far more channels than he has. I'll say it again for the 100th time, Comcast was caught with their pants down regarding the conversion to digital and Daniels case is a perfect example of that poor planning. He is not alone and the steady stream of subs leaving them is a testament to that!

Thank you for being understanding:D

jrcorwin
03-25-09, 04:05 PM
Indiana customers in areas that were formerly serviced by Insight now have something new...HD On Demand.

Here is our current lineup:


904 WNDY-DT HD
906 NBC HDTV-WTHR HD
908 ABC HDTV-WRTV HD
910 FOX HDTV-WXIN HD
912 CBS HDTV-WISH HD
914 CW HDTV-WTTV HD
916 PBS DIGITAL-WFYI HD
917 WFYI - DT
919 CNN HD
920 NFL Network HD
921 Golf Channel HD
922 Fox Sports Net MW
923 ESPN HDTV
924 ESPN2 HD
925 TNT IN HD
926 TBS HD
927 National Geographic HD
928 HD Net
930 Disney Channel HD
931 ABC Family HD
934 Animal Planet HD
935 HD Theater
936 Discovery HD
937 UNIVERSAL HD
938 Sci-Fi HD
939 USA HD
940 A&E HD
941 History HD
942 HGTV HD
943 Food Network HD
944 TLC HD
945 MHD
946 Speed HD
947 Versus HD
948 FX HD
949 HDNet Movies
950 Fox News HD
951 AMC HD
952 HBO EAST HDTV
953 Starz HD
954 Showtime East (HDTV)
955 Cinemax HD
957 Science HD
958 Big Ten Network HD
HD On Demand

bob2274
03-25-09, 08:17 PM
The NFL only cares about itself with their exclusive deals. I hope fans realize that.

They also extended their exclusive deal for the Sunday Ticket with DirecTV, I believe though 2014. Now they'll continue to tell you how DirecTV cares so much about the fans by "giving" everyone NFL Network and its 8 live games every single year.
No one has been talking about it, but Dish Network also moved NFLN to a more expensive package, I don't remember exactly which one. None of the big providers seem to be very interested in wide distribution for NFLN except DirecTV. Funny how that works.

blitzen102
03-25-09, 09:01 PM
They have bin working on the lines on the polls since July.

Who was your provider before Comcast came in to your area?

When did Comcast acquire your system?

Daniel Murray
03-25-09, 09:16 PM
Comcast has bin here from day one I have bin in my house now for 12 years on 4/7/2009 it will be 13 years.
Before it was comcast about 20 plus years ago it was Garden State Cable in my town.
Fios has bin working around my town since July of 2008.
I have had one on one talks with Frank at comcast and he knows there is problems with my system. But Comcast has not fixed anything. I have had many nights with my TV Blocking and it is with my HD boxes and Basic cable all so.It doses this in HD and analog.
I have my 16th temp wire going to my house right now.
I would love to stay with Comcast but they make it Very hard when they can not fix what is wrong with my feed.

Daniel Murray
03-25-09, 09:22 PM
Not to be a jerk, but is anybody else getting tired of this thread being turned into a "What is Daniel Murray's complaint THIS week?" thread?
.

I hope by Complaing someone from comcast would see this Like Frank Eliason and get Comcast to do a better job and look in to this. I have talked to him in the past.

bicker1
03-26-09, 06:33 AM
I hope by Complaing someone from comcast would see this Like Frank Eliason and get Comcast to do a better job and look in to this.All Comcast understands is money. Unsubscribing from their service sends a clear message, as does downgrades to limited basic in areas without decent over-the-air reception.

Good luck.

Doom878
03-26-09, 08:14 AM
For the love of....

bin is spelled been. :D

lambertman
03-26-09, 08:42 AM
Indiana customers in areas that were formerly serviced by Insight now have something new...HD On Demand.

Here is our current lineup:

Hi neighbor!

That NFL HD spot would be a lovely spot for CSN Chicago. I would buy the sports pack *immediately* if they'd do that.

It is assumed that HDNet Movies goes away 4/1 and MLB HD takes the spot, but it was announced that we'd lose Ovation last year and it's still here... so we'll see.

jrcorwin
03-26-09, 08:48 AM
Hi neighbor!

That NFL HD spot would be a lovely spot for CSN Chicago. I would buy the sports pack *immediately* if they'd do that.

It is assumed that HDNet Movies goes away 4/1 and MLB HD takes the spot, but it was announced that we'd lose Ovation last year and it's still here... so we'll see.
I haven't heard anything about losing HDNet Moves yet.

lambertman
03-26-09, 09:56 AM
I haven't heard anything about losing HDNet Moves yet.


It's quite possible the assumer is an idiot. It's also me. :D

I had heard a lot of Former Insights were losing it on March 1. Maybe we'll luck out.

jrcorwin
03-26-09, 10:16 AM
It's quite possible the assumer is an idiot. It's also me. :D

I had heard a lot of Former Insights were losing it on March 1. Maybe we'll luck out.
I'll go digging and see what I find. I'll keep you posted.

Update: Interesting...we are not losing HDNet movies AND we are getting additional HD channels on June 12th.

Update: I spoke with someone else and it doesn't sound like this is true after all.

blitzen102
03-26-09, 10:28 AM
Please take this with a grain of salt.

A subscriber here asked a Comcast tech that came to his house about any new upcoming HD channels and asked if the tech had heard of "The World of More" or "Project Cavalry".

The tech stated there would be 11 new HD channels added on April 1st.

He was also familiar with both of the terms used for the analog reduction (going "digilal-only") and said that this project was originally schedule to already be taking place here in the Twin Cities area, but has been delayed due to delays in receiving enough DTA boxes - primarily from Thomson.

hdguru
03-26-09, 12:03 PM
Hi neighbor!

That NFL HD spot would be a lovely spot for CSN Chicago. I would buy the sports pack *immediately* if they'd do that.

It is assumed that HDNet Movies goes away 4/1 and MLB HD takes the spot, but it was announced that we'd lose Ovation last year and it's still here... so we'll see.


Our friends at Comcast are serious about dropping HDNet Movies. They did that on 12/31 here in Houston, kept HDNet, and gave us The Weather Channel-HD instead. Whoopie!

wstanko
03-26-09, 12:13 PM
Our friends at Comcast are serious about dropping HDNet Movies. They did that on 12/31 here in Houston, kept HDNet, and gave us The Weather Channel-HD instead. Whoopie!

HDNet Movies goes away on 4-1! WTF Comcast Pittsburgh never even had it! I guess that means I won't miss it very much, though. :D

Marcus Carr
03-26-09, 01:08 PM
I sent an email to Comcast inquiring about new HD channels. I received the classic Canned Response.

Thank you for your message concerning the Comcast Cable service.

Comcast is committed to deploying HDTV service. We are working to
provide as many high definition channel broadcasters as possible. Here
are some of the factors involved with expanding our high definition
lineup:

-the negotiation and contract process required to obtain the rights to
carry a specific high definition broadcast, such as TNT-HD and HD-Net.

-the increased bandwidth resources which are required

-the relatively low number of subscribers (currently only a small
minority of customers have high definition compatible television sets)

We will continue to explore additional HD programming opportunities as
more content providers make plans to offer their programming in HD
format.

Ah, the memories.:D

blitzen102
03-26-09, 01:27 PM
I sent an email to Comcast inquiring about new HD channels. I received the classic Canned Response.

Ah, the memories.:D

Check the expiration date on that can, I think it expired about three years ago.

DDisney
03-26-09, 03:12 PM
Please take this with a grain of salt.

A subscriber here asked a Comcast tech that came to his house about any new upcoming HD channels and asked if the tech had heard of "The World of More" or "Project Cavalry".

The tech stated there would be 11 new HD channels added on April 1st.

He was also familiar with both of the terms used for the analog reduction (going "digilal-only") and said that this project was originally schedule to already be taking place here in the Twin Cities area, but has been delayed due to delays in receiving enough DTA boxes - primarily from Thomson.


April 1, but I bet he did not say what year, did he?:D

Hardcore Legend
03-26-09, 10:14 PM
HDNet Movies goes away on 4-1! WTF Comcast Pittsburgh never even had it! I guess that means I won't miss it very much, though. :D


Yeah, no kidding. It's weird seeing other people lose channels we never even had here!

Marty Milton
03-27-09, 11:31 AM
HDNet Movies goes away on 4-1! WTF Comcast Pittsburgh never even had it! I guess that means I won't miss it very much, though. :D
Our local Comcast system had given us HDNet Movie channel for over a year before it was dropped. We are a former Insight system that was taken over by Comcast. I assume Comcast was obligated to honor the carrier agreement that Insight had before they took over. HD Net Movies was dropped at the beginning of March 2009, but Comcast kept HD Net channel.

jrcorwin
03-27-09, 11:41 AM
We still have it here and there don't appear to be any plans to drop it.

Marty Milton
03-27-09, 12:24 PM
We still have it here and there don't appear to be any plans to drop it.
Just curious. Here is your "here"?

jrcorwin
03-27-09, 12:35 PM
Just curious. Here is your "here"?
Did you mean where is your hear rather than here is your hear? My here is central Indiana.

hdguru
03-27-09, 12:42 PM
Finally...there's a legal notice in today's paper that Comcast will be adding a large number of channels, most on 4/27, with a few falling later in May or early June. The format of the legal notice on-line makes it difficult to reprint here, but here are some of the channels involved:

Comcast of Houston will be making the following changes on or after April 1, 2009:
New Channel DESCRIPTION Service Level
682 MLB HD Digital Preferred HD

Comcast of Houston will be making the following changes on or after April 27, 2009:
New Channel DESCRIPTION Service Level
102 Reelz TV Digital Preferred
103 Hallmark Movie Channel Digital Preferred
118 Ovation Digital Preferred
319 Universal Sports Basic
538 Gran Cine Canales Selecto
539 Mexicanal Canales Selecto
601 Speed Channel HD Sports Entertainment HD
622 Cartoon HD Expanded Basic HD
629 Discovery HD Expanded Basic HD
631 FX HD Expanded Basic HD
632 ABC Family HD Expanded Basic HD
638 Fox News Channel HD Expanded Basic HD
640 Lifetime HD Expanded Basic HD
641 Disney Channel HD Expanded Basic HD
642 Animal Planet HD Expanded Basic HD
643 Nickelodeon HD Expanded Basic HD
644 E! HD Expanded Basic HD
648 Spike HD Expanded Basic HD
657 AMC HD Expanded Basic HD
660 Sci Fi HD Expanded Basic HD
662 Travel Channel HD Expanded Basic HD
663 TLC HD Expanded Basic HD
671 Lifetime Movies HD Digital Starter HD
672 Biography HD Digital Preferred HD
677 Fox Business News HD Digital Preferred HD
678 Discovery Science Channel HD Digital Preferred HD
679 Planet Green HD Digital Preferred HD
680 Hallmark Movie Channel HD Digital Preferred HD
681 NHL HD Sports Entertainment HD
683 Style HD Digital Preferred HD
684 TV ONE HD Digital Preferred HD
696 Encore HD Digital Preferred HD
723 Star Plus (South Asian) International
724 Sony (South Asian) International
725 The Filipino Channel International
726 GMA Pinoy International

Comcast of Houston will be making the following changes on or after April 27, 2009:
Current Channel DESCRIPTION Current Service Level New Service Level
149 Movieplex Digital Starter Digital Preferred
119 Lifetime Movie Network Digital Preferred Digital Starter
283 National Geographic HD Expanded Basic HD Digital Preferred HD

Comcast of Houston will be making the following changes on or after April 27, 2009:
Current Channel DESCRIPTION New Channel
600-611 NBA League Pass/MLS 750-761
620-625 ESPN Sports Package 770-775


So friends...there is hope for all Comcast systems.

Marty Milton
03-27-09, 12:43 PM
Did you mean where is your hear rather than here is your hear? My here is central Indiana.
Then you were also a former Insight customer, as well, right?

jrcorwin
03-27-09, 12:44 PM
Then you were also a former Insight customer, as well, right?
Correct.

Ken H
03-27-09, 01:00 PM
So friends...there is hope for all Comcast systems.

One could have said the same thing after Chicago & Boston last year.

blitzen102
03-27-09, 01:05 PM
Finally...there's a legal notice in today's paper that Comcast will be adding a large number of channels, most on 4/27, with a few falling later in May or early June. The format of the legal notice on-line makes it difficult to reprint here, but here are some of the channels involved:

Comcast of Houston will be making the following changes on or after April 1, 2009:
New Channel DESCRIPTION Service Level
682 MLB HD Digital Preferred HD

Comcast of Houston will be making the following changes on or after April 27, 2009:
New Channel DESCRIPTION Service Level
102 Reelz TV Digital Preferred
103 Hallmark Movie Channel Digital Preferred
118 Ovation Digital Preferred
.......

...and we think that SDV is what has (or is about to) clear the bandwidth for all of these new HD channels, correct??

blitzen102
03-27-09, 01:09 PM
Comcast notice in the local newspapers here today:

"Effective April 27th, 2009, Movieplex, channel 149, will be moving from the Digital Starter Tier to the Digital Classic Tier, and will no longer be part of the Digital Starter Package. Movieplex will be available with a subscription to the digital Preferred Package."

Interesting that the date matches one of the Houston dates.

For channel moves to different tiers or channel eliminations (analogs), Comcast is required to post notices in the newspapers at leat one month in advance.

Channel ADDITIONS here DO NOT require the one month notification.

MWJones
03-27-09, 11:34 PM
...and we think that SDV is what has (or is about to) clear the bandwidth for all of these new HD channels, correct??

I wonder if Houston is legitimately going to deploy SDV. They are in the last stages of a wholesale swap out of all HD Motorola Boxes and CableCards, going to SA/Cisco. You would think if SDV was in the mix they would have tried to ween users of CC down, since most CC devices, except TiVo's, won't provide the 2-way feedback needed to do SDV.

Comcast's letter to CableCard users only stated that new channels would not work on the Motorola cards, and to provide the new channels, you had to switch.

Likewise, I am not aware of a swapout of SD Motorola boxes during this push, which means the system is still a Hybrid Moto/SA system, and I doubt the older Moto 2224 SD boxes would work with SDV - meaning how much gain would there be by taking only the HD channels to SDV.

If I was to render a guess, it's for the 3 HD channels per QAM channel compression, which they wanted consistant hardware for, so they didn't have to deal with the older Moto hardware/headend servers to support.

jrcorwin
03-29-09, 11:23 AM
Now they say we are losing HDNet Movies on April 14th...yet it was only the 5th person I spoke to who even knew this. It's being replaced by MLB HD....well thank you very much. I'm not too happy considering both HDNet and HDNet Movies aren't working right now and they can't get someone out to check the issue until the end of the week. Worthless...

Comcast: Pay More, For Less

Marty Milton
03-29-09, 11:39 AM
Now they say we are loving HDNet Movies on April 14th...yet it was only the 5th person I spoke to who even knew this. It's being replaced by MLB HD....well thank you very much. I'm not too happy considering both HDNet and HDNet Movies aren't working right now and they can't get someone out to check the issue until the end of the week. Worthless...

Comcast: Pay More, For Less
I assume you meant to write losing in your posting. Here in east central Illinois we lost HD Net Movies earlier this month but will still have HD Net Channel. Like your Comcast system, we will be getting MLB HD as the replacement for HD Net Movies.

jrcorwin
03-29-09, 12:05 PM
I assume you meant to write losing in your posting. Here in east central Illinois we lost HD Net Movies earlier this month but will still have HD Net Channel. Like your Comcast system, we will be getting MLB HD as the replacement for HD Net Movies.
Yep, I fixed the typo. I'm just not happy that I am losing anything at all. When I complained that I could get more for less from another provider...the person on the phone claimed that they offer every HD that is currently available. :mad: I then went down the list of what they don't offer...silence.

Daniel Murray
03-29-09, 12:42 PM
jrcorwin I feel your pain.

jrcorwin
03-29-09, 12:44 PM
jrcorwin I feel your pain.
I was just on hold waiting for a supervisor. I was told I would be the next phone call they took. That supervisor then took a lunch break instead, even though I was holding.

I'm done complaining. I'll stop ranting about it now. I'm done with Comcast. Yet again...

Comcast: Pay more for less

hdtvjunkie247
03-30-09, 10:01 AM
New HD stations coming in NJ very soon.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r22150755-New-HD-April-7th-Central-NJ

bigvinny
03-30-09, 01:09 PM
Comcast pulling NFL Ntework May 1st sucks pretty bad, I like watching games and even highlights in HD.

Chareston, SC just got some new HD channels last week:

Bravo HD
Spike HD
QVC HD
Nick HD
CNBC HD
Lifetime HD

Lodef
03-30-09, 03:35 PM
Comcast pulling NFL Ntework May 1st sucks pretty bad, I like watching games and even highlights in HD.

Chareston, SC just got some new HD channels last week:

Bravo HD
Spike HD
QVC HD
Nick HD
CNBC HD
Lifetime HD

I for one am glad Comcast told them where to go. Now I just wish other providers would do the same. Those greedy b#$%*^#s!

sansri88
03-30-09, 06:52 PM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5881/hdadds.png

Sorry for the poor quality, my paint skills aren't up to par. I resized the image so it wouldn't be so large.

Changes are for Union, Plainfield, and Meadowlands. Effective April 7th except MLB HD which is April 1st.

Daniel Murray
03-30-09, 07:39 PM
Should I say it:mad:

sansri88
03-30-09, 07:41 PM
Should I say it:mad:

It's Union's time to shine! :D

michaelggray
03-30-09, 07:42 PM
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4198/com002.jpg

Daniel Murray
03-30-09, 07:50 PM
Should I say it:mad:

It's Union's time to shine! :D

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4198/com002.jpg

:eek::confused::mad::(

Marcus Carr
03-30-09, 08:07 PM
Comcast Network HD...that's new.

sansri88
03-30-09, 08:28 PM
Comcast Network HD...that's new.

Only for special sporting events. Note it gives a time frame in that advertisement for when CNPH HD will be available. I know 1 Phillies game will be on CNPH and it'll probably be used for some conflicts of sports during the time frame.

Daniel Murray
03-30-09, 10:08 PM
Look at what I have found.

http://www.hd-report.com/2009/03/30/comcast-adding-hd-choices-in-new-jersey/

Comcast will add a bunch of new high-definition (HD) channels in New Jersey starting this Wednesday, including MLB Network HD market-wide on channel 191. I know that’s what baseball fans wanted to hear. Other channels launching in multiple NJ market areas include CNN HD, TLC HD, Sci-Fi HD, and AMC HD. Check out the list below for full details.

Comcast of Maple Shade System (added on or about April 1)
• MLB Network HD (channel 191) I do not get
• Science HD (channel 194) I do not get
• ABC Family HD (channel 195)I do not get
• HGTV HD (channel 213)I do not get
• Food Network HD (channel 216)I do not get
• History HD (channel 217)I do not get
• CNN HD (channel 221)I do not get
• USA HD (channel 222)I do not get
• Discovery HD (channel 224)I do not get
• Sci-Fi HD (channel 226)I do not get
• Animal Planet HD (channel 230)I do not get
• AMC HD (channel 238)I do not get
• Disney HD (channel 239)I do not get

Comcast of Garden State (added on or about April 1)
• HGTV HD (channel 213) This is the Only Channel that I get in HD WTF:mad:

Comcast of Monmouth & Ocean County, Toms River, LBI & Central NJ (added on or about April 7)
• MLB Network HD (channel 191)I do not get
• CNN HD (channel 221)I do not get
• TLC HD (channel 225)
• AMC HD (channel 238)I do not get

Comcast of New Jersey (Union), Plainfield, Jersey City & Meadowlands (added on or about April 7)
• MLB Network HD (channel 191)I do not get
• A&E HD (channel 211)
• HGTV HD (channel 213)I do not get
• Food Network HD (channel 216)I do not get
• History HD (channel 217)I do not get
• CNN HD (channel 221)I do not get
• USA HD (channel 222)I do not get
• Discovery HD (channel 224)I do not get
• TLC HD (channel 225)
• Sci-Fi HD (channel 226)I do not get
• Animal Planet HD (channel 230)I do not get
• AMC HD (channel 238)I do not get

I would like to no is what the problem with Comcast of Garden State:confused:

Morac
03-31-09, 01:02 PM
I would like to no is what the problem with Comcast of Garden State:confused:

Isn't SDV being used (tested) in the Comcast of Garden State system? Maybe that's why.


I wonder If I'll get "MLB Network HD (channel 191)" in my area and if so, whether it's included or part of the sports tier.

dyhrdmet
03-31-09, 01:09 PM
Only for special sporting events. Note it gives a time frame in that advertisement for when CNPH HD will be available. I know 1 Phillies game will be on CNPH and it'll probably be used for some conflicts of sports during the time frame.

that makes sense. it's more like CSN+ HD for CSN Philly. CSN Chicago has one too. Hopefully for DC, they'll get one soon, or for next season.

Marcus Carr
03-31-09, 01:40 PM
A year ago Comcast said they hoped to have CSN+ (Mid-Atlantic) HD in 2009.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13314279#post13314279

TravelFan1
03-31-09, 01:45 PM
...
I wonder If I'll get "MLB Network HD (channel 191)" in my area and if so, whether it's included or part of the sports tier.
According to Comcast ad yesterday on the Home News Tribute, in Union, Meadowlands and PLainfield MLB will be added to Digital Classic.

jrcorwin
03-31-09, 01:51 PM
I'll take MLB HD, but I think it's a rather poor trade for HDNet Movies.

Midnight55
03-31-09, 06:08 PM
Today they added MLBHD and FSNHD to the lineup in Salt Lake City, UT on channels 692 and 693.

sansri88
03-31-09, 08:57 PM
BTW same changes in Union apply to Jersey City.

Marcus Carr
04-01-09, 01:33 AM
Comcast has added MASN HD in Baltimore City.

210 ABC
211 NBC
212 CBS
213 FOX
214 CW
215 MNTV
216 WGN America
217 The Science Channel
218 AMC
220 PBS
221 FX
222 Fox News
223 A&E
224 National Geographic
225 HD Theater
226 Versus
227 Palladia
228 HBO
229 HGTV
231 Food
232 TBS
233 Cinemax
234 CNN
235 USA
236 Sci-Fi
237 History
238 Showtime
239 Discovery Channel
240 TLC
241 Animal Planet
242 Speed
244 Disney Channel
245 ABC Family
246 NFL
247 MASN
248 Starz
249 TNT
250 Universal
251 CSN
252 ESPN
253 ESPN2
254 Golf

whitedevil070
04-01-09, 01:47 AM
All i get in eastpointe,MI is 45 hd channels **** comcast

delvec19
04-01-09, 02:00 AM
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5881/hdadds.png

Sorry for the poor quality, my paint skills aren't up to par. I resized the image so it wouldn't be so large.

Changes are for Union, Plainfield, and Meadowlands. Effective April 7th except MLB HD which is April 1st.

All I can say is....


ABOUT ****ING TIME!!!!!!!!!

beavis23
04-01-09, 04:15 AM
my cable box just said "dl" with a spinning thing on it for about 5 minutes on comcast with dvr.

no idea what happened, no i can't access the guide, but flipping channels is about 10000 x faster. can't wait to see if it stays this way, but guide, my dvr, everything is broke :/

beavis23
04-01-09, 04:16 AM
rescind the last post. the cable box no has its controls accessible. it's downloading the program guide... will advise if i spot any new HD channels. mid-west subscriber, here.

beavis23
04-01-09, 04:20 AM
my cable box is like 10000 times more responsive. i have no idea what they did, but it is awesome.

beavis23
04-01-09, 04:27 AM
speed boost GONE.

For the record, I was able to hit up on the channel button and it went to the next channel like analog tv does (nearly instant). That was at 4 20 a.m. or so, immediately after the update rolled out. Now that all the cable boxes are back on (I presume) the speed has stopped.

DIAF Comcast.

Went from instant menus / content / channel changing to the same old .8 second delay for everything) (or more).

I'm VERY disappointed.

tkoui
04-01-09, 12:48 PM
rescind the last post. the cable box no has its controls accessible. it's downloading the program guide... will advise if i spot any new HD channels. mid-west subscriber, here.

This gives me some comfort. For the past two days, I have noticed that my cable boxes had been rebooted when I woke up in the morning. I just had my cable line re-routed on Saturday (was previously getting 1/2 the signal) and was afraid that my signal was again losing power. It bugs me they reboot without my knowledge because it messes up my scheduled recordings because the guide hasn't repopulated. On the bright side, I noticed that MLBHD will be activated today in NWIndiana.

blitzen102
04-01-09, 12:55 PM
speed boost GONE.

For the record, I was able to hit up on the channel button and it went to the next channel like analog tv does (nearly instant). That was at 4 20 a.m. or so, immediately after the update rolled out. Now that all the cable boxes are back on (I presume) the speed has stopped.

DIAF Comcast.

Went from instant menus / content / channel changing to the same old .8 second delay for everything) (or more).

I'm VERY disappointed.

What are your software/firmware versions?

Motorola box? If so...

How To Check Your Firmware and Software Versions (i-Guide)

1.Press the "Menu" button TWICE on the remote to get to the "Main Menu".
2. Arrow down if necessary and select the "Setup" menu on the bottom left.
3. Arrow down once and select the second option, "Cable box setup".
4. Arrow down to the bottom and select the "Select to display" button for the "Configuration" option.

Second down on the left is "S/W Ver". This is your software version.
Sixth down on the right is "Firmware". This is your firmware version.

Marcus Carr
04-01-09, 02:23 PM
Outdoor Channel HD premiered on Comcast New Mexico in several
key markets including Los Alamos and Portales on March 20.

http://news.prnewswire.com/ViewContent.aspx?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/04-01-2009/0004998709&EDATE=

Hardcore Legend
04-01-09, 04:04 PM
Bad News to all of you that wanted to see the NFL Network go away, I just spoke to a Comcast representative who said that they were told today that they will only be dropping the NFLN for a short period of time and it should be back before mid-summer.

jrcorwin
04-01-09, 04:32 PM
Bad News to all of you that wanted to see the NFL Network go away, I just spoke to a Comcast representative who said that they were told today that they will only be dropping the NFLN for a short period of time and it should be back before mid-summer.
I'm not doubting that you were told that, but I do doubt that this person gave you the correct information. It makes no sense for them to drop it for a few months only to bring it right back.

sansri88
04-01-09, 05:38 PM
Having major issues on MLB HD (ch 191) on the Union system. Picture freezing, audio cutting. Been like this since the morning.

bob2274
04-01-09, 06:21 PM
Bad News to all of you that wanted to see the NFL Network go away

I don't want to see it go away, but I'm glad to see Comcast not backing down. While other league networks are tying carriage of their out of market packages to getting better carriage, the NFL wants everyone to carry the NFL Network on better terms while they sell the Sunday Ticket package only to DirecTV for a billion (with a "B") dollars a year.

sansri88
04-01-09, 08:54 PM
MLB HD now working thanks to @ComcastBonnie getting LMC to look into the issue.

tkoui
04-02-09, 10:08 AM
This gives me some comfort. For the past two days, I have noticed that my cable boxes had been rebooted when I woke up in the morning. I just had my cable line re-routed on Saturday (was previously getting 1/2 the signal) and was afraid that my signal was again losing power. It bugs me they reboot without my knowledge because it messes up my scheduled recordings because the guide hasn't repopulated. On the bright side, I noticed that MLBHD will be activated today in NWIndiana.

Yet another reboot this morning (happened around 3:47am).

blitzen102
04-02-09, 10:21 AM
Yet another reboot this morning (happened around 3:47am).

What are YOUR cable box software and firmware versions?

Thanks

jrcorwin
04-02-09, 10:38 AM
Central Indiana customers (former Insight customers) will be getting MLB HD on April 14th...

...and another 9 new HD channels sometime in April. The names and the exact date for this haven't been released yet because they are in the process of finalizing the agreements. It's all but done however. I confirmed this with three random local Comcast employees and one contact I have from deeper within the company.

This softens the blow of losing HDNet Movies on April 14th.

blitzen102
04-02-09, 11:08 AM
What are YOUR cable box software and firmware versions?

Thanks

Never mind. Macrovision just put out a news release that the new version of iGuide (a28) will be "available in North America on Motorola MoCA-enabled STBs in Q4 2009." (a26 and a27 are internal beta versions only)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Macrovision-to-Launch-bw-14811902.html

lambertman
04-02-09, 12:15 PM
Central Indiana customers (former Insight customers) will be getting MLB HD on April 14th...

...and another 9 new HD channels sometime in April.

Hoping that doesn't include WIPB-HD (PBS-Muncie), which they were trying to add this morning on 918 before I left for work.

mds54
04-03-09, 02:07 PM
I don't want to see it go away, but I'm glad to see Comcast not backing down.......

I don't really care who backs down. In the end, we want the NFL Network HD channel, even as part of a Sports package. To take it away from us will force us to leave Comcast.:(

bob2274
04-03-09, 02:23 PM
I just called Comcast to inquire about MLB Extra Innings and if it would be available in HD this year. The rep on the line had no idea what I was talking about, and even told me that if the game was broadcast in HD, it would automatically be shown in HD as long as I have an HD box and an HDTV. She said that she had NBA League Pass, and she got all the games in HD on the regular channels. It was obvious that she had no idea if GAME HD was going to be offered, so I moved on and asked her if any new HD channels would be arriving soon on our local system. She told me that it would depend on when everything goes digital in June, referring to the DTV transition. Wow- no wonder the misinformation about digital TV and HD spreads so fast. There are people at Comcast who have contact with the public who are just as clueless, and will spread misinformation themselves on behalf of the cable company.

jklarfeld
04-03-09, 04:01 PM
I just called Comcast to inquire about MLB Extra Innings and if it would be available in HD this year. The rep on the line had no idea what I was talking about, and even told me that if the game was broadcast in HD, it would automatically be shown in HD as long as I have an HD box and an HDTV. She said that she had NBA League Pass, and she got all the games in HD on the regular channels. It was obvious that she had no idea if GAME HD was going to be offered, so I moved on and asked her if any new HD channels would be arriving soon on our local system. She told me that it would depend on when everything goes digital in June, referring to the DTV transition. Wow- no wonder the misinformation about digital TV and HD spreads so fast. There are people at Comcast who have contact with the public who are just as clueless, and will spread misinformation themselves on behalf of the cable company.
What else is new. They're useless. I just wait each year to see if Game HD shows up in the program guide. No luck so far, although MASN HD did just show up (but not MLB HD).

hdguru
04-03-09, 04:58 PM
What else is new. They're useless. I just wait each year to see if Game HD shows up in the program guide. No luck so far, although MASN HD did just show up (but not MLB HD).

There is hope. I actually found a CSR here in Houston this AM who was polite, and relatively well informed on some technical issues. It happens, but all too infrequently.

bob2274
04-03-09, 08:50 PM
MASN HD did just show up (but not MLB HD).

I was going to give them props for adding MASN HD while I was on the phone, but besides me being completely furious, the lady wouldn't have known what I was talking about.

aindik
04-06-09, 02:55 PM
I just called Comcast to inquire about MLB Extra Innings and if it would be available in HD this year. The rep on the line had no idea what I was talking about, and even told me that if the game was broadcast in HD, it would automatically be shown in HD as long as I have an HD box and an HDTV. She said that she had NBA League Pass, and she got all the games in HD on the regular channels. It was obvious that she had no idea if GAME HD was going to be offered, so I moved on and asked her if any new HD channels would be arriving soon on our local system. She told me that it would depend on when everything goes digital in June, referring to the DTV transition. Wow- no wonder the misinformation about digital TV and HD spreads so fast. There are people at Comcast who have contact with the public who are just as clueless, and will spread misinformation themselves on behalf of the cable company.

I've decided that it's a better bet to get MLB out of market games in HD using MLB.TV than Extra Innings on cable. Their website says the premium package includes all games in HD where available, home and away feeds, live game DVR functionality and the ability to sync the video with audio from either team's radio station.

$109 for the season. You just need to hook up your PC or Mac to your TV.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/index.jsp?affiliateId=MLBTVREDIR

lawful12
04-06-09, 03:48 PM
I am in Chicago and subscribe to Extra Innings. There will be 3 games shown today in HD on the GAME HD channel which is channel 460.
Frank

ojready
04-06-09, 04:39 PM
My promo expires today for television. I called customer retention to get in on the next promo and she said I had to pay the new price for 90 days before I can get in on a new promo. Is that true? I have never had an issue before getting in (immediately) on a new promo. She also told me that some of the promos I had (free Starz and dvr) were still active and therefore couldn't do anything until those expire. I guess I should start threatening to go to Directv.....

comcast user
04-06-09, 07:16 PM
Starting April 14th, MLB HD will be added to Digital Classic ch. 949 (Replacing HDNet Movies).

Digital channels are also changing. WTHR-DT Weather will be added to Limited Basic ch 433. WFYI-DT Plus will move from Limited Basic ch 917 to Limited Basic ch 114. WDTI (Daystar)-DT is changing to digital, but staying on ch 12.

We are losing HDNet movies, Skytrack, and possibly NFL Network. Maybe these moves will lead to more HD channels to come in the future.

jrcorwin
04-06-09, 07:48 PM
Starting April 14th, MLB HD will be added to Digital Classic ch. 949 (Replacing HDNet Movies).

Digital channels are also changing. WTHR-DT Weather will be added to Limited Basic ch 433. WFYI-DT Plus will move from Limited Basic ch 917 to Limited Basic ch 114. WDTI (Daystar)-DT is changing to digital, but staying on ch 12.

We are losing HDNet movies, Skytrack, and possibly NFL Network. Maybe these moves will lead to more HD channels to come in the future.
Boo...more crap from Comcast. MLB HD to replace HDNet Movies is a very bad trade.

Comcast: pay more for less

jklarfeld
04-07-09, 10:21 AM
I actually looked today at the RCN channel list for the DC area. At least according to the website, they have MLBHD and GAMEHD (for Extra Innings), not to mention Setanta (for the soccer fans out there). Anyway, it's irrelevant b/c I'm stuck with Comcast in my condo building.

tamahome02000
04-07-09, 11:14 AM
Well Union NJ got the 12 new HD channels. :) Just in time for a new 2 hour Mythbusters on Discovery HD Wednesday. Too bad Battlestar Galactica is over, now that I have 'Syfy-HD'.

totalownership
04-07-09, 01:10 PM
Well Union NJ got the 12 new HD channels. :) Just in time for a new 2 hour Mythbusters on Discovery HD Wednesday. Too bad Battlestar Galactica is over, now that I have 'Syfy-HD'.

I'm right there with you. Essex county NJ just got about 12 or so new HD channels. FINALLY Food Network, History, AMC, CNN and more! Now if they get TCM then all is good. Got my sports, now my food , news and old movies. I guess that call two weeks ago did the trick ;). It's like a late birthday present to me. Might be a couple days old but better late than never. (Which is where I thought they were headed)

bob2274
04-07-09, 02:41 PM
I actually looked today at the RCN channel list for the DC area. At least according to the website, they have MLBHD and GAMEHD (for Extra Innings), not to mention Setanta (for the soccer fans out there). Anyway, it's irrelevant b/c I'm stuck with Comcast in my condo building.

I could easily go to Verizon and pay the early termination fee before my contract expires in October. I just don't want to deal with (1) switching over my e-mail addresses, and (2) a completely different channel lineup. Also, I would hate to do all this, then see Comcast come out with the two channels I want the very next week. Verizon also doesn't have CSN Plus in my area, and will never have the Comcast Network, which gives me a lot of extra hockey games for free.

sansri88
04-07-09, 05:25 PM
actually we got 11 channels. the 12th channel came on 4/1 (MLB HD)

Gonna check out all the Deadliest Catch episodes tonight on Discovery, can't wait!

Hardcore Legend
04-07-09, 06:58 PM
Got a phone call today from Comcast to tell me that I would be losing phone and internet service from 12 pm to 6 am tonight so that they could upgrade their fiber optic equipment in the area to offer faster internet and more HD channels.

Funny thing, I talked to Comcast last week and was told that no HD channels would be added to my system until June according to their on-screen information.

keenan
04-07-09, 07:01 PM
Got a phone call today from Comcast to tell me that I would be losing phone and internet service from 12 pm to 6 am tonight so that they could upgrade their fiber optic equipment in the area to offer faster internet and more HD channels.

Funny thing, I talked to Comcast last week and was told that no HD channels would be added to my system until June according to their on-screen information.

Taking the system down to upgrade it doesn't mean you'll have more content the following morning. Once your area/node is all completed, then they'll probably add more channels/services. It took about 2 mos from when they were working in my area until they finally brought new stuff online.

Hardcore Legend
04-07-09, 07:15 PM
Taking the system down to upgrade it doesn't mean you'll have more content the following morning. Once your area/node is all completed, then they'll probably add more channels/services. It took about 2 mos from when they were working in my area until they finally brought new stuff online.

Yeah, I just called and they said that the recording was wrong anyways. All they are upgrading is the internet service to make it faster. The system showed no new channel changes for the foreseeable future, although the tech said he would talk to the marketing department tomorrow and call back with any information they had as far as channels being added.

Marcus Carr
04-08-09, 05:00 AM
Comcast changes for Baltimore City:

WETA HD, WETA Create, WETA Kids added on 4/14 (PBS Washington DC)

9 channels added (moved) to Digital Starter on 4/14

To help make room for these and future channel additions, the
following channels, including the sports neighborhood, will be
moving on Tuesday, April 14:

MPT-Select 200 to 268
MPT V-me 201 to 269
Big Ten Network 257 to 715
Horse Racing TV 259 to 717
TV Games 260 to 718
ESPNEWS 261 to 719
FOX College Sports Atlantic 262 to 720
FOX College Sports Central 263 to 721
FOX College Sports Pacifi c 264 to 722
ESPN Classic 265 to 723
FOX Soccer Channel 267 to 725
GOL TV English 268 to 726
NBA TV 273 to 749
CBS College Sports 274 to 732
NFL Network 275 to 733
NHL Network 276 to 734
The Tennis Channel 277 to 735
MLB Network 280 to 738

The following channels will now require a digital box on:

Wednesday, April 1
The Comcast Network

Tuesday, April 14
WETA-SD
Cartoon Network

New Music Choice lineup effective 4/15

http://comcastchannelchanges.com/channelLineups/MD_BaltimoreCity.pdf

With the sports channels moving away from the HD channels, and three analogs being dropped, hopefully they are making room for more HD.


Changes in DC, DE, MD, NC, VA, WV in April:

http://comcastchannelchanges.com

Doom878
04-08-09, 08:54 AM
Yeah, I just called and they said that the recording was wrong anyways. All they are upgrading is the internet service to make it faster. The system showed no new channel changes for the foreseeable future, although the tech said he would talk to the marketing department tomorrow and call back with any information they had as far as channels being added.

A tech will call you back to tell you about new channels? He must be new or not down with the program. :p

dyhrdmet
04-08-09, 09:36 AM
Comcast changes for Baltimore City:

WETA HD, WETA Create, WETA Kids added on 4/14 (PBS Washington DC)

9 channels added (moved) to Digital Starter on 4/14

To help make room for these and future channel additions, the
following channels, including the sports neighborhood, will be
moving on Tuesday, April 14:

MPT-Select 200 to 268
MPT V-me 201 to 269
Big Ten Network 257 to 715
Horse Racing TV 259 to 717
TV Games 260 to 718
ESPNEWS 261 to 719
FOX College Sports Atlantic 262 to 720
FOX College Sports Central 263 to 721
FOX College Sports Pacifi c 264 to 722
ESPN Classic 265 to 723
FOX Soccer Channel 267 to 725
GOL TV English 268 to 726
NBA TV 273 to 749
CBS College Sports 274 to 732
NFL Network 275 to 733
NHL Network 276 to 734
The Tennis Channel 277 to 735
MLB Network 280 to 738

The following channels will now require a digital box on:

Wednesday, April 1
The Comcast Network

Tuesday, April 14
WETA-SD
Cartoon Network

New Music Choice lineup effective 4/15

http://comcastchannelchanges.com/channelLineups/MD_BaltimoreCity.pdf

With the sports channels moving away from the HD channels, and three analogs being dropped, hopefully they are making room for more HD.


Changes in DC, DE, MD, NC, VA, WV in April:

http://comcastchannelchanges.com

they did that up in NJ, adding one of the PBS's (we get 3 from the NYC market) HD and sub-channels, and moving the sports channels to the 700s.

You have a web site from Comcast for changes? We don't have anything like that.

Marcus Carr
04-08-09, 09:42 AM
You have a web site from Comcast for changes? We don't have anything like that.

I got a message telling me about the website this morning. It's probably new and possibly temporary.

rob559
04-08-09, 09:47 AM
I'm Here in Union NJ and got the new HD channels as well, but most of the HD channels are breaking up with digital blocks, audio dropouts, and 2-3 second freezes. These are unwatchable. Last night even some SD channels were also breaking up etc.
I'm waiting another day to see if Comcast will fix this before calling them. Is anyone else in the Union NJ area experiancing this problem?

Marcus Carr
04-08-09, 09:59 AM
I've seen problems before with new HD channels. They cleared up within a couple of days. Some of them were "Not Authorized" for a while. When MASN HD was first added there was no programming info or channel name for a few days. (Now it's labeled "MASHD"; looks like "Mashed" to me).

scimani2
04-08-09, 10:19 AM
I'm Here in Union NJ and got the new HD channels as well, but most of the HD channels are breaking up with digital blocks, audio dropouts, and 2-3 second freezes. These are unwatchable. Last night even some SD channels were also breaking up etc.
I'm waiting another day to see if Comcast will fix this before calling them. Is anyone else in the Union NJ area experiancing this problem?

wow, search and you will find. i live in union, nj too and am experiencing the same exact issue. all of my HD channels are now unwatchable. i called comcast yesterday and told them about it. they are sending a tech to my house on friday (earliest available time) to check my signal. i know its a bandwidth issue, but she said there is nothing they can do about it without sending a tech. we'll see what happens i guess, but this is definately a very poor planned release


EDIT: Just called them again to tell them there are posts all over the internet from people experiencing the same issue I am. The rep told me that she has been getting calls all week about this issue and it appears to be regional (union county) and the more people that call, the more likely it is that dispatch will realize there is an issue and treat it as an outage and send a tech out to the entire area to investigate, so by all means, please call and tell them you are having a problem! It will help us all out. Thanks

tamahome02000
04-08-09, 10:38 AM
I don't have that problem, but I recently had a splitter and my cable modem swapped out. You may need the same.

I've noticed southpark is in hd on demand under tv entertainment/comedy channel. :) Although the economics episode is all pixelated.

jrcorwin
04-08-09, 10:52 AM
I just love Comcast's inability to share or confirm information within their own company. I was just told by one person that 29 channels are slated to be added this month...according to an "internal mail report" they received this morning. (which I think sounds far too good to be true) The next person I spoke with had no idea.

rob559
04-08-09, 11:13 AM
wow, search and you will find. i live in union, nj too and am experiencing the same exact issue. all of my HD channels are now unwatchable. i called comcast yesterday and told them about it. they are sending a tech to my house on friday (earliest available time) to check my signal. i know its a bandwidth issue, but she said there is nothing they can do about it without sending a tech. we'll see what happens i guess, but this is definately a very poor planned release


EDIT: Just called them again to tell them there are posts all over the internet from people experiencing the same issue I am. The rep told me that she has been getting calls all week about this issue and it appears to be regional (union county) and the more people that call, the more likely it is that dispatch will realize there is an issue and treat it as an outage and send a tech out to the entire area to investigate, so by all means, please call and tell them you are having a problem! It will help us all out. Thanks
Thanks scimani2,
I'll call them . I figured it was more of a system wide problem. Funny that they need to be hit with alot of complaints to fix problems. Where and what are their techs doing? Dont any of Comcasts techs live and watch HD in Union county NJ to see how their new HD channels to compete with Fios is actually working? ;-)

rob

Hardcore Legend
04-08-09, 01:53 PM
I just love Comcast's inability to share or confirm information within their own company. I was just told by one person that 29 channels are slated to be added this month...according to an "internal mail report" they received this morning. (which I think sounds far too good to be true) The next person I spoke with had no idea.


I love that the don't simply provide this information to their customers on the internet. Each system should have it's own website that you can entire in your zip code and receive all the press releases and future events.

jrcorwin
04-08-09, 01:59 PM
I love that the don't simply provide this information to their customers on the internet. Each system should have it's own website that you can entire in your zip code and receive all the press releases and future events.
They always tell me to just check the channel lineup on the website...the channel lineup on the website that is never correct. These are some smart people we're dealing with.

ojready
04-08-09, 02:00 PM
My promo expires today for television. I called customer retention to get in on the next promo and she said I had to pay the new price for 90 days before I can get in on a new promo. Is that true? I have never had an issue before getting in (immediately) on a new promo. She also told me that some of the promos I had (free Starz and dvr) were still active and therefore couldn't do anything until those expire. I guess I should start threatening to go to Directv.....

anyone have any ideas? should I bother trying to get a csr rep that will hook me up or is there some new rule in place? wondering if cancelling cable altogether would change their mind. doubt it.

comcast user
04-08-09, 02:04 PM
29 channels being added? any insight to what they are?

jrcorwin
04-08-09, 02:06 PM
anyone have any ideas? should I bother trying to get a csr rep that will hook me up or is there some new rule in place? wondering if cancelling cable altogether would change their mind. doubt it.
I'm assuming we all get the same menus options no matter where we call from. You need to call and chose option 4. It says something like: transferring service, downgrading service, or canceling service. This department is also known as account retention. Talk to them...threaten to cancel...see what happens.

jrcorwin
04-08-09, 02:12 PM
29 channels being added? any insight to what they are?
They mentioned a few, but I can't remember what they are now. Nothing mind blowing. If you think of 29 channels we don't get that satellite customers do get...you'll guess almost all of them.

It really isn't reliable info though. Two Comcast reps via the online chat function confirmed it, but then two different local reps via phone conversations had no idea what I was talking about.

delvec19
04-08-09, 03:40 PM
I'm in NJ and A&E HD is one of the channels we got. I noticed that Sopranos is shown in stretch-o-vision and isnt in HD. Has it always been like this? I hope they fix it.

jrcorwin
04-08-09, 04:03 PM
I'm in NJ and A&E HD is one of the channels we got. I noticed that Sopranos is shown in stretch-o-vision and isnt in HD. Has it always been like this? I hope they fix it.
It depends on the episode. Either way...they are always edited for content.

dyhrdmet
04-08-09, 04:17 PM
It depends on the episode. Either way...they are always edited for content.

there was probably a thread on The Sopranos once upon a time, but I believe they were filmed in 16:9 starting with Season 3 (not sure if it was true HD back then, but it beats stretch-o-vision).

scimani2
04-08-09, 04:18 PM
here in union this week, we got 10 new ones:

MLB HD
A&E HD
Home & Garden HD
Food Network HD
History Channel HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Sci-Fi HD
Animal Planet HD
AMC HD

nakedeye
04-08-09, 08:23 PM
They mentioned a few, but I can't remember what they are now. Nothing mind blowing. If you think of 29 channels we don't get that satellite customers do get...you'll guess almost all of them.

It really isn't reliable info though. Two Comcast reps via the online chat function confirmed it, but then two different local reps via phone conversations had no idea what I was talking about.

What area of the country?

TheWinstonWolf
04-08-09, 09:21 PM
Is anyone else noticing pixelation and picture quality issues on wjla hd (ABC DC area affiliate). I first noticed it while my fiancee was watching dancing with the stars on monday, but it seems to be the same problem with Lost tonight..anyone else noticing this?

Hardcore Legend
04-08-09, 10:51 PM
Needless to say, I didn't get my callback today.

dyhrdmet
04-09-09, 12:03 AM
here in union this week, we got 10 new ones:

MLB HD
A&E HD
Home & Garden HD
Food Network HD
History Channel HD
CNN HD
Discovery HD
TLC HD
Sci-Fi HD
Animal Planet HD
AMC HD

I think you listed 11, but it was actually 12 - you missed USA HD. MLB HD came on 4/1 and the other 11 were on 4/7.

sports channels moving to the 700s on 4/14, and maybe something with NJN and WLIW moving to digital-only with WLIW HD and subchannels coming on 4/14.

Lodef
04-09-09, 12:20 AM
Do any of you Jersey people have a local Thread? Seems like much of what you discuss could be a topic for your local system instead of using the main Comcast thread.

bicker1
04-09-09, 05:10 AM
I just love Comcast's inability to share or confirm information within their own company.Don't confuse inability with unwillingness. So many customers are such crybabies about projected dates for service introductions that end up being exceeded that there is no net-benefit to making such information available before channels are actually added.

I was just told by one person that 29 channels are slated to be added this month...according to an "internal mail report" they received this morning. (which I think sounds far too good to be true) The next person I spoke with had no idea.The second person was probably correct and/or following proper procedure.

sansri88
04-09-09, 07:04 AM
Do any of you Jersey people have a local Thread? Seems like much of what you discuss could be a topic for your local system instead of using the main Comcast thread.

The title of the thread is "Comcast HDTV"

We're talking about Comcast HDTV. I don't see a problem.

Daniel Murray
04-09-09, 07:29 AM
sansri88, I see no Problem!

So what is the Problem Lodef?

kenvt
04-09-09, 08:45 AM
sansri88, I see no Problem!

So what is the Problem Lodef?

Lodef is correct, this forum is for general discussion of Comcast programming. Individuall area discussions should be held in the local forum. For example, those of us in the Boston area discuss local comcast stuff in a forum called Comcast - Boston.

-Ken

jrcorwin
04-09-09, 09:07 AM
Don't confuse inability with unwillingness. So many customers are such crybabies about projected dates for service introductions that end up being exceeded that there is no net-benefit to making such information available before channels are actually added.

The second person was probably correct and/or following proper procedure.
It's combination of both in my opinion. There is no reason why I should know about channel additions before the Comcast employees working in customer service. There have been times when channel(s) have been added on a particular day...I have called Comcast to ask an unrelated question...and the folks in our local office had no idea that the channel(s) had been added. That information should have been communicated internally.

Daniel Murray
04-09-09, 09:30 AM
No local Thread

scimani2
04-09-09, 09:32 AM
fyi...my problem in north jersey is fixed as of this morning. i havent seen pixilation or audio outages all morning
no service appointment required.
anyone else seeing the same?

tamahome02000
04-09-09, 09:52 AM
This morning I've had wierd audio problems where I can't hear the vocal track on my surroundsound system.

kenvt
04-09-09, 10:03 AM
No local Thread

Here you go, I just created a "New Jersey - Comcast" thread for you guys to discuss your local business. Have Fun !

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1137311

Lodef
04-09-09, 10:05 AM
sansri88, I see no Problem!

So what is the Problem Lodef?

Well Ken already answered but I would like to add it is also more beneficial to people in your particular system if they went directly to that thread when there is a problem. It is easier to narrow down if it is local or individual instead of this thread where it is from all over.

Maybe with the help of a Mod you can start one.

Edit: I guess Ken is one step ahead of me!

JDLIVE
04-09-09, 12:37 PM
Well Ken already answered but I would like to add it is also more beneficial to people in your particular system if they went directly to that thread when there is a problem. It is easier to narrow down if it is local or individual instead of this thread where it is from all over.

Maybe with the help of a Mod you can start one.

Edit: I guess Ken is one step ahead of me!

This came up before, apparently the AVS mods would not allow them to have a local thread, for reasons I've forgotten.

Daniel Murray
04-09-09, 01:21 PM
This came up before, apparently the AVS mods would not allow them to have a local thread, for reasons I've forgotten.

I think it is because we have South Jersey, Central Jersey, and North Jersey. Each has more than one different Comcast system. I live in Burlington county which is in South New Jersey and we have three or four different Comcast systems in the County alone.

kenvt
04-09-09, 02:43 PM
I think it is because we have South Jersey, Central Jersey, and North Jersey. Each has more than one different Comcast system. I live in Burlington county which is in South New Jersey and we have three or four different Comcast systems in the County alone.

Well it's better to post it in the new "new jersey - comcast" thread than on this national comcast programming thread.

-Ken

CPanther95
04-09-09, 02:52 PM
Here you go, I just created a "New Jersey - Comcast" thread for you guys to discuss your local business. Have Fun !

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1137311

Thread was closed.

There are already existing Comcast threads for the DMAs that cover NJ.

This thread is for issues that deal with Comcast's programming nationally. However, that may occasionally include local issues that are important to other Comcast systems around the nation.

keenan
04-09-09, 02:53 PM
I think it is because we have South Jersey, Central Jersey, and North Jersey. Each has more than one different Comcast system. I live in Burlington county which is in South New Jersey and we have three or four different Comcast systems in the County alone.

In the SF bay area Comcast has over 20 different systems and we all post in the same thread.

If you need more specificity, then make 3 threads, north, central and south.

I always thought the purpose of this thread was the national announcements of Comcast adding channels and the speculation thereof, not what each individual system has or doesn't have.

<edit> Well there you go, CP has already provided the answer. :-) <edit>

Doom878
04-09-09, 03:42 PM
Thread was closed.

There are already existing Comcast threads for the DMAs that cover NJ.

This thread is for issues that deal with Comcast's programming nationally. However, that may occasionally include local issues that are important to other Comcast systems around the nation.

Occasionally? I think I know more about NJ Comcast than my local one. :D

totalownership
04-09-09, 03:45 PM
fyi...my problem in north jersey is fixed as of this morning. i havent seen pixilation or audio outages all morning
no service appointment required.
anyone else seeing the same?

Yeah I was getting it bad on the day they added the new channels and pretty bad yesterday. Seems clear now though.

blitzen102
04-09-09, 04:08 PM
Occasionally? I think I know more about NJ Comcast than my local one. :D

:D

Agreed.

ojready
04-09-09, 05:19 PM
I'm assuming we all get the same menus options no matter where we call from. You need to call and chose option 4. It says something like: transferring service, downgrading service, or canceling service. This department is also known as account retention. Talk to them...threaten to cancel...see what happens.

yeah, that's who I was speaking to. they didn't seem to care if I left for another provider.

kenvt
04-09-09, 05:44 PM
In the SF bay area Comcast has over 20 different systems and we all post in the same thread.

If you need more specificity, then make 3 threads, north, central and south.

I always thought the purpose of this thread was the national announcements of Comcast adding channels and the speculation thereof, not what each individual system has or doesn't have.

<edit> Well there you go, CP has already provided the answer. :-) <edit>


So south Jersey, your supposed to post in the Philadelphia - Comcast, North Jersey your supposed to post in the NYC - Comcast. They want it by DMA.

-Ken

keenan
04-09-09, 05:50 PM
So south Jersey, your supposed to post in the Philadelphia - Comcast, North Jersey your supposed to post in the NYC - Comcast. They want it by DMA.

-Ken

Who's they? The forum DMA thread setup is only a guide, you should post where ever your system actually is. If you live in NJ, but your Comcast system is actually part of the Philly system, then that's where you should post. Cable TV systems are not always laid out by DMA.

CPanther95
04-09-09, 06:02 PM
Who's they? The forum DMA thread setup is only a guide, you should post where ever your system actually is. If you live in NJ, but your Comcast system is actually part of the Philly system, then that's where you should post. Cable TV systems are not always laid out by DMA.

Members should post in the thread provided for their DMA. If you live in South Jersey, you are in the Philly DMA so you'd post in the Philly-Comcast thread. Even if your cable system is unique from Philly, you'll all still be connected in the same thread. If you find that your system is the same as the one in a different DMA, then head there.

keenan
04-09-09, 06:07 PM
Members should post in the thread provided for their DMA. If you live in South Jersey, you are in the Philly DMA so you'd post in the Philly-Comcast thread. Even if your cable system is unique from Philly, you'll all still be connected in the same thread. If you find that your system is the same as the one in a different DMA, then head there.

That's basically what I was trying to say, find the thread where there's like members/systems and post there, regardless of what the thread title says. :)

Daniel Murray
04-09-09, 07:33 PM
Just Drop it now! My god I will not Apologize for living in NJ and posting here. Get over it and move on.

ojready
04-09-09, 08:37 PM
I'm assuming we all get the same menus options no matter where we call from. You need to call and chose option 4. It says something like: transferring service, downgrading service, or canceling service. This department is also known as account retention. Talk to them...threaten to cancel...see what happens.

actually, I think I was pressing option 3, which is downgrade service. I just called and did 4 (cancel) and the rep. was able to get a similar promo as before. free hd dvr, hbo, showtime, and the digital preferred for $49 for a year.

It's crazy how I spoke to 3 different reps using option 3 (downgrade) and was told no promos were available. That whole phone maze is worthless. Just go to downgrade service and you're sent to the people who can actually help. :rolleyes:

CPanther95
04-09-09, 10:36 PM
Just Drop it now! My god I will not Apologize for living in NJ and posting here. Get over it and move on.

Never apologize for living in NJ. :)

Just keep the local issues and problems in the local threads to keep this thread focused on Comcast's national programming decisions.