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GoIrish
05-06-06, 06:49 PM
I'm glad I'm not running your systems either. Considering that I've heard horrific stories about Comcast service in Maryland. Look all I'm saying is that it would be in Comcast's best interest to not make anymore drastic additions in the HD category until problems with other systems are taken care of. I'm tired of hearing about the "bandwidth" issue, because I doubt that there is one. Case in point, them adding 4-5 new SD channels, when they were so called "bandwidth" deprived. Something doesn't add up now does it?

Well, my service is great, no complaints at all. Thanks for asking.

5 digital channels are less than 1/2 the space needed for one HD channel. 85% of cable customers aren't HD so they are not just managing bandwidth for what we want. Often times the digital channels they add are at the request of customers or due to contract necessity.

I still disagree with the premise of your post but hope they figure this out soon for you all in Jersey.

GoIrish

hdtvjunkie247
05-06-06, 07:17 PM
You know now that I think about it a few hours later, I realize that my original assumptions were wrong. You should be able to get the best possible service and offerings from a company, if your system is in good standing. I guess the thing that gets me discouraged the most is how other systems on Comcast or other cable companies seem to be stepping up to the plate and delivering while Comcast in NJ seems to not be so much. Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm expecting too much out of HD, when really it's still evolving and doesn't have a hugh penetration rate yet.

Also if I may ask, do you happen to know how much bandwidth and/or channel space would be needed for an addition like TNT-HD? Just curious since I'm not really up to speed on this type of stuff.

GoIrish
05-06-06, 10:44 PM
You know now that I think about it a few hours later, I realize that my original assumptions were wrong. You should be able to get the best possible service and offerings from a company, if your system is in good standing. I guess the thing that gets me discouraged the most is how other systems on Comcast or other cable companies seem to be stepping up to the plate and delivering while Comcast in NJ seems to not be so much. Maybe it's just me, maybe I'm expecting too much out of HD, when really it's still evolving and doesn't have a hugh penetration rate yet.

Also if I may ask, do you happen to know how much bandwidth and/or channel space would be needed for an addition like TNT-HD? Just curious since I'm not really up to speed on this type of stuff.

It takes 3 MHz. or half of what a normal analog, non-digital channel takes which is 6 MHz. I know that Comcast is pushing their markets to create an all digital line-up within the spectrum available. This is the first phase of what will be the start of transitioning their analog channels to only digital.

The short term issue is this takes additional bandwidth, usually 3-4 full analog 6 MHz slots, to accomplish. The short term upside is that this gives all current digital customers, (about 55% of their base), every channel digitally. This is a plus for just about all customers but especially those in Motorola markets, where their boxes are known to have analog tuners that don't provide a great picture on larger screens.

Our area went all all digital simulcast about two months ago and even where picture quality was already very good, it's now even a little better.

I expect your area may be navigating through those current challenges as well.

The upside is that this short term strategy is intended to create more bandwidth in bandwidth challenged areas to get current on launched HD content and create a platform to add future content liberally when deals happen.

Again, hopefully you see the benefit of this stuff soon.

GoIrish

stw2323
05-06-06, 10:49 PM
I just wish Comcast would be more forthcoming with information. I understand that they don't want to dilvulge information about sensative contract talks, but at least give us something better that we are taking this under this suggestion under advisement. And it also seems as though the CSR's are very ignorent when it comes to HD.

scottiemc24
05-06-06, 11:25 PM
^ You're exactly right! Comcast doesn't care at all what you think and keeps everything inside. They told us in WA, wait for FSN-NW HD with Mariners' games by June 1, but nothing's happened and several people have confirmed that they couldn't reach a contract.

nywst
05-06-06, 11:50 PM
Before Comcast even considers adding any more new HD channels nationally, they need to first launch TNT-HD in NJ and any other areas that still dont have it. Also, when they make national agreements they should first make sure that the majority of local systems have the bandwidth to add it.

Comcast sucks. And we don't have other better choices. D*?

raidbuck
05-07-06, 09:49 AM
Our area went all all digital simulcast about two months ago and even where picture quality was already very good, it's now even a little better.

GoIrish

Can you explain "digital simulcast"? ESPN2 is still 03 and I didn't find it in the 100s. Isn't that still analog? ESPN News is on both 05 and 102.

Thanks,

Rich N.

drhill
05-07-06, 10:41 AM
If I can't have it then you can't either...

NJ has bandwidth limitations. They are working towards a solution.

Here in Baltimore, where bandwidth isn't an issue, I'm glad you're not making our programming decisions.

GoIrish

They have the bandwidth for TNT. They added Bravo for the Olympics without taking away a damn channel, and then they took it off and didn't add anything else.

GoIrish
05-07-06, 11:26 AM
Can you explain "digital simulcast"? ESPN2 is still 03 and I didn't find it in the 100s. Isn't that still analog? ESPN News is on both 05 and 102.

Thanks,

Rich N.

If you have a digital box, you are now receiving all channels digitally without having to tune to a new number.

The box automatically maps you to the all digital channels that have been layered within the operating spectrum. You do not need to do anything differently at all. All of the boxes Comcast offers do this, not just HD or DVR's.

If you do not have a box and take the cable straight to the TV you are receiving the analog versions with still exist due to the large number of analog only customers that still exist.

Hope you're doing well.

GoIrish

GoIrish
05-07-06, 11:29 AM
They have the bandwidth for TNT. They added Bravo for the Olympics without taking away a damn channel, and then they took it off and didn't add anything else.

I don't question that they may be able to do one HD channel. If you refer back to my post, the priority for many Comcast systems now is digital simulcast. This may be the case in your area and they may need that 3 MHz of bandwidth in the short term for that project.

The upside of that project is it is the first phase of moving more current analog channels to digital to create more overall capacity for the future. A number of cable companies have/are doing this.

GoIrish

raidbuck
05-07-06, 11:01 PM
If you have a digital box, you are now receiving all channels digitally without having to tune to a new number.

The box automatically maps you to the all digital channels that have been layered within the operating spectrum. You do not need to do anything differently at all. All of the boxes Comcast offers do this, not just HD or DVR's.

If you do not have a box and take the cable straight to the TV you are receiving the analog versions with still exist due to the large number of analog only customers that still exist.

GoIrish

GoIrish, thanks for the information. ESPN2 does look better.

Rich N.

kmeisenbach
05-07-06, 11:45 PM
HDNET and HDNET/Movies are channels that Comcast will not have for many years, if ever. Since they are "stand-alone" Cuban has to charge a significant amount for carriage and there aren't other channels (SD) for Comcast to bargain with. Since we don't have an HD Tier, Comcast has no way to minimize the cost. So we won't be getting it, although I have asked many times. It is sad, but that's the way it is, I'm afraid.

Like many people here, and against all other areas for Comcast, HD customers seem willing to pay more for HD if they don't have to pay more for the SD channels that many of us avoid. Comcast can't institute an HD Tier now, too late, but they could raise the price of the HD DVR by a dollar a month for it. But then some areas don't have available bandwidth to even show HDNET if they got it (some areas still don't have TNT-HD and UHD for example) and that would change the pricing structure for HD by regional area. So it is not as simple as we would like it to be.

But it is true that Comcast is falling behind the satellites in the number of HD channels (although not in quality, see D* and HD-Lite). E* even has the VOOM channels. Will it make a noticeable difference?

Rich N.

don't give up Rich, keep asking Comcast. and it's not true what you said above that 'HDNet has to charge a significant amount for carriage', we've come to agreement with most all of the cable/satellite distributors. If enough Comcast customers want HDNet and HDNet Movies, they will add them. Don't give up on them, we won't.

HDSports
05-09-06, 10:25 AM
If I can't have it then you can't either...

NJ has bandwidth limitations. They are working towards a solution.

Here in Baltimore, where bandwidth isn't an issue, I'm glad you're not making our programming decisions.

GoIrish

Comcast is a big enough corporation to invest in increasing its bandwidth...of course it would involve them investing (ie. spending money) to upgrade their systems. My favorite excuse is that my system was purchased from another cable company who had limited bandwidth. That was true, but it was already Comcast when I hooked up my cable eight years ago!

HDSports
05-09-06, 10:42 AM
I always hear how much ESPN wants for new stations like ESPN2-HD and ESPNU, yet my parents get their cable from Adelphia (you know, the bankrupt cable company) and they have managed to add those two stations in the past few months.

Addicted2HD4Now
05-09-06, 11:25 AM
I always hear how much ESPN wants for new stations like ESPN2-HD and ESPNU, yet my parents get their cable from Adelphia (you know, the bankrupt cable company) and they have managed to add those two stations in the past few months.

Maybe that's why they're bankrupt :D

Just kidding. I wish we would hear some movement on new channels being added to areas that have the bandwidth available, at least, but there's been absolutely nothing.
<sarcasm>Some of us did already get a new HD channel this year, UHD, so I guess we've met our quota.</sarcasm>

DDisney
05-09-06, 11:53 AM
Maybe that's why they're bankrupt :D

Just kidding. I wish we would hear some movement on new channels being added to areas that have the bandwidth available, at least, but there's been absolutely nothing.
<sarcasm>Some of us did already get a new HD channel this year, UHD, so I guess we've met our quota.</sarcasm>

And some of us (Atlanta area) have had UHD added and then taken away. :(

raidbuck
05-09-06, 12:40 PM
Maybe that's why they're bankrupt :D

Just kidding. I wish we would hear some movement on new channels being added to areas that have the bandwidth available, at least, but there's been absolutely nothing.
<sarcasm>Some of us did already get a new HD channel this year, UHD, so I guess we've met our quota.</sarcasm>

Not nothing, just the knowledge that Disney and Comcast are in negotiations.
How long will the negotiations continue? I'm hoping they'll be done by September so we can get the baseball and college football games in HD. Since it has been 16 months so far, I think that would be reasonable. I don't think they'll break off and ESPN disappear from Comcast.

We've actually enjoyed some of the series on UHD. Their commercial breaks are much shorter than TNTHD, and their movies are uncut and uninterrupted.

Rich N.

HDSports
05-09-06, 03:21 PM
A technician told me that Comcast waits for the previous contract to lapse. By not picking up new stations in mid-contract, they make out better that way.

Meanwhile, they've added wonderful stations almost no one will watch, like a second ABC-DT (we now have five stations that give us the weather) and TVOne (bad sitcoms you didn't watch the first time around) and AZN (they had planned to put money into this one to provide new programming, but then pulled it back, so its the same as the old International Channel). And then they blame no bandwidth.

The biggest insult though is they co-own Sportsnet New York, but will not show the HD telecasts of the Mets games. All other providers, including Cablevision show the home games in HD.

felthove
05-09-06, 05:12 PM
I'm in the Seattle market and Comcast recently added digital versions of their analog channels (the sub-100 channels) -- I even got a letter in the mail. These digital channels look far worse than their analog counterparts due to compression artifacts. I guess when they eliminate the simultaneous analog broadcast they may not compress stuff as much but for now it is pretty bad.

jhachey
05-09-06, 08:17 PM
I'm in the Seattle market and Comcast recently added digital versions of their analog channels (the sub-100 channels) -- I even got a letter in the mail. These digital channels look far worse than their analog counterparts due to compression artifacts. I guess when they eliminate the simultaneous analog broadcast they may not compress stuff as much but for now it is pretty bad.
I'm also in the Seattle market, but in my neighborhood the digital simulcast channels look fabulous and are a HUGE improvement over the quality of the old analog signals.

DaveFi
05-09-06, 09:30 PM
Local Comcast here in the Boston area just added the NBC Weather Plus simulcast crap.

mx6bfast
05-10-06, 01:53 PM
OT..but does anyone have an email address to contact I guess corporate Comcast? TW here is supposed to change to Comcast soon and I just want to see if they can provide me with more info. I thought I saw the email of a higher up in Comcast, but I think that was for TW. Can anyone help me? I can't get to the area to contact us because I'm not a customer.

raidbuck
05-11-06, 08:04 AM
Local Comcast here in the Boston area just added the NBC Weather Plus simulcast crap.

I'm wondering if the reason Comcast is adding so many obscure channels (such as 4 local weather channels people have been noticing, or two racing channels or the Jewelry channel etc) is because those are parts of agreements that get us the HD we have without the added cost of an HD tier.

Rich N.

NortheasternPJ
05-11-06, 08:09 AM
Nevermind.

tcable
05-11-06, 01:35 PM
We already had weahter plus in Bristol County. Now weha ve it twice- a 7xx and 8xx.

Monger
05-11-06, 03:43 PM
I'm wondering if the reason Comcast is adding so many obscure channels (such as 4 local weather channels people have been noticing, or two racing channels or the Jewelry channel etc) is because those are parts of agreements that get us the HD we have without the added cost of an HD tier.

Rich N.

In Albuquerque we have a five dollar hdtv charge for what is an hd tier, as far as I can figure out. I wonder if we are alone in that.

Marcus Carr
05-11-06, 04:30 PM
In Albuquerque we have a five dollar hdtv charge for what is an hd tier, as far as I can figure out. I wonder if we are alone in that.

The $5 is probably for the HD box rental, not the channels. That's how it usually is with Comcast.

chitchatjf
05-11-06, 05:25 PM
The $5 is probably for the HD box rental, not the channels. That's how it usually is with Comcast.

There is a surcharge for an HD non DVR Box over a regular non DVR box.

ALL DVRs have HD,so if you get the DVR HD is FREE!

scanpa
05-11-06, 05:36 PM
There is a surcharge for an HD non DVR Box over a regular non DVR box.

ALL DVRs have HD,so if you get the DVR HD is FREE!

Here is Comcast's Base price list as of March 1st.

March 2006 Comcast Basic Fee's (fee's vary by area due to Franchise fee's, local & state Tax ect. Not all services available in all areas.
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Monthly a la carte services
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Basic Service -- $16.90 per month

Expanded Service -- $30.85 per month

Digital Clasic -- $9.95 per month

Digital Plus -- $14.95 per month

Digital Sports -- $5.00 per month

DVR service -- $9.95 per month

DVR W/ TiVo service -- $14.95 per month

EC Addl. Outlet -- $4.75 per month

Digital Cable Addl. Outlet -- $8.95 per month

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Monthly Packages
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Standard Package (Basic & Expanded) -- $47.75 per month

Enhanced Package ( STB & Standard Package) -- $49.70 per month

Digital Classic Package ( STB & Standard package + Digital Clasic) -- $57.70 per month

Digital Plus Package ( STB & Standard package + Digital Plus) -- $62.70 per month

Digital Silver Package ( STB & Standard package + Digital Plus + 1 Premium multi ch. service) -- $79.25 per month

Digital Gold Package ( STB & Standard package + Digital Plus + 2 Premium multi ch. service) -- $89.25 per month

Digital Platinum Package ( STB & Standard package + Digital Plus + 4 Premium multi ch. service) -- $106.25 per month

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Monthly Premium services
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HBO Multi Ch. -- $18.95 Per Month

Showtime / The Movie Ch. Multi -- $18.95 Per Month

Cinemax multi ch. -- $18.95 Per Month

Starz multi Ch. -- $18.95 Per Month

Howard Stern On Demand -- $13.99 per month or $139.99 per Year *prepaid*

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Monthly Equipment Rental
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Basic Service-Only cable box (non Addressable) -- $0.50 per month

Basic Service-Only cable box (Addressable) -- $1.25 per month

Analog addressable Cable Box -- $4.50 per month

Digital Cable Box -- $ 4.50 per month

remote control -- $0.25 per month

Cable CARD -- $0.00 per month * NO CHARGE*

HDTV Digital Cable Box -- $8.95 per month

HDTV Digital Cable Box with Digital Clasic or Digital Plus package -- $5.00 per month

HDTV Digital Cable Box with Digital Silver, Digital Gold, Digital Platinum package -- $5.00 per month

stw2323
05-11-06, 07:48 PM
OT..but does anyone have an email address to contact I guess corporate Comcast? TW here is supposed to change to Comcast soon and I just want to see if they can provide me with more info. I thought I saw the email of a higher up in Comcast, but I think that was for TW. Can anyone help me? I can't get to the area to contact us because I'm not a customer.


When you go to www.comcast.com, under the tab of support and service there is a contact us where you can go and put in comments or complaints about their services.

leebo
05-11-06, 08:05 PM
There is a surcharge for an HD non DVR Box over a regular non DVR box.

ALL DVRs have HD,so if you get the DVR HD is FREE!


Here we go again.
Every month on my Comcast bill it says:

DVR Service - $9.95
HDTV Service - $5

Carl Jones
05-11-06, 08:41 PM
CC IS listed as no charge BUT I get hit with $8.90/mo for "digital a/o".

balazer
05-11-06, 09:16 PM
$8.90 seems too expensive for a CableCARD. I think it's a mistake.

keenan
05-11-06, 09:39 PM
I've seen that amount for CC before. I've seen numbers from $1.95 to that $8.90, Here is SF the charge is $6.95, charged as an Additional Digital Outlet. If you only have CC(no STB), then the charge is rolled into the sub price.

chitchatjf
05-11-06, 10:10 PM
IN Boston its listed as such:

DVR service $9.95
HD box $8.95 withOUT DVR service,$4.50 WITH
Digital box without HD $4.50

or something like that. Anyways NO EXTRA charge for HD :)

HD locals is PART of Basic service.
Non premium HD channels are part of digital Classic.
Expanded basic NOT required to get Digital Classic. (or ANY Digital package) :)

Cable cards are FREE but if you already have a set with a box you do get charged the "Digital access" fee ,but you would still be charged that fee even if you used a box on the set with the card,so the Cable cared is FREE!

Prediction for next HD channel ESPN2 (well in Boston ,anyway) :)

mx6bfast
05-12-06, 10:06 AM
When you go to www.comcast.com, under the tab of support and service there is a contact us where you can go and put in comments or complaints about their services.
Since I'm not in an area currently serviced by Comcast I can't use that. It tells me to contact TW.

Marcus Carr
05-12-06, 12:24 PM
1-800-COMCAST

mx6bfast
05-12-06, 01:14 PM
1-800-COMCAST
They can't tell me anything different than what in the press release. Besides, I know not to trust a CSR :)

If no one has any contacts who might know something thats fine. I was just checking.

ITForensics
05-18-06, 09:06 AM
While not noteworthy, the Springfield-Holyoke (MA) DMA received a duplicate non-HD version of 'Weatherscan' that mirrors channel 245. This station resides on channel 845.

Scarpad
05-18-06, 09:32 AM
While not noteworthy, the Springfield-Holyoke (MA) DMA received a duplicate non-HD version of 'Weatherscan' that mirrors channel 245. This station resides on channel 845.

Yeah what's Up with this I wonder if it's a placeholder

ITForensics
05-18-06, 09:40 AM
Yeah what's Up with this I wonder if it's a placeholder

Are you in the same market, or does this spread further?

DDisney
05-18-06, 11:36 AM
You will know when ESPN2HD will be added when you read that the new deal is in place between Comcast and Disney. The overall deal is holding up the addition of ESPN2HD. Until it is completed, there will be no ESPN2HD on Comcast.

Jwhip,

Any rumblings of progress about this? I am bummed that it is looking like we won't have ESPN2HD in time for the World Cup, and HD additions of any type seem to be painfully slow.

Here in the Atlanta area, they gave us UHD for the Olympics without removing either of the INHD channels but took it away afterwards. Recently, they have added 3 shopping related links that are nothing more than On Demand hyperlinks and placed them all in the 800 series of channels where the HD channels are located. Yuck! :(

nikeykid
05-18-06, 11:43 AM
mikef5 just posted on the bay area thread that espn2 is very unlikely to show up by the world cup.

drhill
05-18-06, 06:22 PM
I don't question that they may be able to do one HD channel. If you refer back to my post, the priority for many Comcast systems now is digital simulcast. This may be the case in your area and they may need that 3 MHz of bandwidth in the short term for that project.

The upside of that project is it is the first phase of moving more current analog channels to digital to create more overall capacity for the future. A number of cable companies have/are doing this.

GoIrish
Sorry for the late reply.

We have had a full digital simulcast before they added Bravo for the Olympics. The bandwidth was there, and probably still is.

raidbuck
05-19-06, 07:57 AM
mikef5 just posted on the bay area thread that espn2 is very unlikely to show up by the world cup.

Hmm, maybe if ESPN had a shopping channel.....

After 16 months, this is getting pretty frustrating.

Rich N.

DeltaBill
05-19-06, 10:14 AM
If you really want ESPN2HD then you have to put your efforts into were it may do the most good. Comcast’s bottom line is not going to be effected by the HD customers that leave during contract negotiations and ESPN currently has no incentive to negotiate quickly. However, if enough people were willing to start threatening a boycott of all ESPN2 advertisers until ESPN2HD was made available to all cable franchises carrying ESPN2 at little to no cost, then maybe you would see some progress. If the advertisers threaten to pull out of ESPN2, then the ESPN franchise would have to make some choices. The problem with this thought is that I do not believe there are enough people wanting ESPN2HD to upset the advertisers, leaving the same situation we currently have with Comcast; the cost of adding the channel now is higher than the losses suffered by not adding the channel until a better contract can be negotiated.

kenvt
05-19-06, 10:58 AM
Hmm, maybe if ESPN had a shopping channel.....

After 16 months, this is getting pretty frustrating.

Rich N.

I think that those of you who want ESPNHD2, want it really bad. But I'm not sure there are enough of you to get comcast in gear. I for one could care less about ESPNHD2, it would be at the bottom of my list.

-ken

Marcus Carr
05-19-06, 12:25 PM
One reason ESPN2 HD is being discussed so much is that it is believed to be the next HD channel they will add. And it will probably be a long time before they add HDNet.

MHD is actually the one I want the most. It seems like negotiations for ESPN2 HD are holding up the addition of other channels.

raidbuck
05-19-06, 12:27 PM
I think that those of you who want ESPNHD2, want it really bad. But I'm not sure there are enough of you to get comcast in gear. I for one could care less about ESPNHD2, it would be at the bottom of my list.

-ken

I realize Comcast is not going to be pushed into making an agreement with Disney just because some of us on this board are very anxious for ESPN2HD. We're just venting, that's all. Sure, I'd rather have HDNET than ESPN2HD, but I'm trying to be realistic about what we can get. I'd rather have National Geographic HD too. But those are out of the question, at least for this year. What else is there, MHD? That is definitely at the bottom of my list.

Rich N.

JDLIVE
05-19-06, 01:21 PM
I realize Comcast is not going to be pushed into making an agreement with Disney just because some of us on this board are very anxious for ESPN2HD. We're just venting, that's all. Sure, I'd rather have HDNET than ESPN2HD, but I'm trying to be realistic about what we can get. I'd rather have National Geographic HD too. But those are out of the question, at least for this year. What else is there, MHD? That is definitely at the bottom of my list.

Exactly. And while I want ESPN2HD, I really don't care that much about it until this fall when college sports start up again. With the addition of UHD (at least here in the Boston area), there's not a whole lot else I'd want, aside from the mentioned HDNET, etc. I'd like a premium movie channel that showed a lot of quality movies and respected OAR, but that doesn't exist (except perhaps HDNET again).

kenvt
05-19-06, 03:45 PM
Maybe Mark Cuban should selll HDNET to Disney and then it could be included in the ESPN negotiations :-)

MickeyGee
05-19-06, 04:36 PM
Maybe Mark Cuban should selll HDNET to Disney and then it could be included in the ESPN negotiations :-)
The only problem with that is that The Mouse would probably ask for more money than Mark is asking for. The Mouse has more leverage (more channels).

I am beginning to think that the orbits of HDNET and Comcast will never meet.

Mickey

stw2323
05-19-06, 09:03 PM
The only problem with that is that The Mouse would probably ask for more money than Mark is asking for. The Mouse has more leverage (more channels).

I am beginning to think that the orbits of HDNET and Comcast will never meet.

Mickey

Whenever I email Mark Cuban about this he pretty much dashes off one liners such as keep up the pressure on Comcast. At least he reads emails in between his rants on NBA refs.

enmoco
05-19-06, 09:46 PM
Whenever I email Mark Cuban about this he pretty much dashes off one liners such as keep up the pressure on Comcast. At least he reads emails in between his rants on NBA refs.A nicer guy,you would never meet.

chitchatjf
05-19-06, 09:53 PM
Disney has stuff Disney channel,ABC (a factor in ABC ono markets) ABC Family,Toon disney,and the other ESPNs.

Cuban has JUST HDNet.

Comcast'sd picking up NBC Weather plus may had been a factor in getting Universal HD FULL TIME in Boston.

enmoco
05-19-06, 10:00 PM
Whenever I email Mark Cuban about this he pretty much dashes off one liners such as keep up the pressure on Comcast. At least he reads emails in between his rants on NBA refs.This has nothing to do with anything,but,just got back from your great city last week. Took the wife and m-i-law to the John Hancock Building for mother's day brunch.Sticker shock.LOL.Chilly but had a great time. Dedicated "Da Bean".Great town,Chicago.Good luck....... :)http://billslater.com/cloudgate/

DDisney
05-20-06, 09:47 PM
The only problem with that is that The Mouse would probably ask for more money than Mark is asking for. The Mouse has more leverage (more channels).

I am beginning to think that the orbits of HDNET and Comcast will never meet.

Mickey

And ESPN2HD, and NGHD, and UHD in markets where it was removed, and ...

Comcast seems to be showing little interest in adding HD channels lately even where bandwidth is available, but I keep getting mailers every few days for their digital phone service. Very frustrating for HD enthusiasts. Where is Verizon FIOS when you need them? :(

raidbuck
05-21-06, 10:31 AM
Comcast is interested in HD (we had a cost-effective HD-DVR for years), just more interested in phone sevice and digital simulcasting and On Demand services and shopping channels (ie revenue-producing things - do you blame them?).

If you expected Comcast to look at NGHD and say "Gee, that might be an entertaining and educational HD channel that our HD customers would like, and if we add it before the satellites that would give us a competitive HD advantage" and open specific negotiations, well, I don't think that would or will happen. They will wait until their NG agreements run out and then, maybe, include the HD channel in the next agreement.

Rich N.

nightowl
05-21-06, 11:20 AM
Comcast is interested in HD (we had a cost-effective HD-DVR for years), just more interested in phone sevice and digital simulcasting and On Demand services and shopping channels (ie revenue-producing things - do you blame them?).

If you expected Comcast to look at NGHD and say "Gee, that might be an entertaining and educational HD channel that our HD customers would like, and if we add it before the satellites that would give us a competitive HD advantage" and open specific negotiations, well, I don't think that would or will happen. They will wait until their NG agreements run out and then, maybe, include the HD channel in the next agreement.


IOW, "We're interested in HD when it knocks at our door, and makes financial sense to do it, but we won't actually add anything unless we feel like it"

bubba5
05-21-06, 11:29 AM
why should comcast do anything. all they have to do is keep the power on the "ON" switch, and keep having a rate increase every year. All they need to do is keep up with the CEO's salary an bonus increases

Renagade
05-21-06, 11:40 AM
I agree with raidbuck, Comcast is a company first. Their going to do what makes financial sense for them as a business. There looking at the majority not the minority. Which is why it will be a long time before we ever get HDNET. I'm sure they would add another HD channel when the price was right for the amount of HD viewers that they have. I want more HD channels like everyone else on here, but saying your going to leave Comcast because you think their lazy with adding new channels or they simply don't care makes no sense to me...

Slickone
05-21-06, 12:22 PM
I agree with raidbuck, Comcast is a company first. Their going to do what makes financial sense for them as a business. There looking at the majority not the minority. Which is why it will be a long time before we ever get HDNET. I'm sure they would add another HD channel when the price was right for the amount of HD viewers that they have. I want more HD channels like everyone else on here, but saying your going to leave Comcast because you think their lazy with adding new channels or they simply don't care makes no sense to me...

Wouldn't you want more value for your dollar? If comcast raised the rates on the DVR or HD package next year, and didn't add anything throughout the whole year, you wouldn't at least explore your options? They are all companies, and will do what makes sense to them, but as a consumer, you deserve the best value for your dollar, to ridicule those people to pursue that is ludicrous. I feel your loyalty to a company that doesn't have your best interests at heart, make no sense to me. E* is fast becoming the staple for HD programming, will have 29 national HD channels in June, add the locals that's easily 34-36 channels. So if you still wish to pay for rate increases higher than the rate of inflation every year, be my guest. But to not consider leaving when you already know that your interests is low priority to them, now that's insane.

boo
05-21-06, 12:45 PM
why should comcast do anything. all they have to do is keep the power on the "ON" switch, and keep having a rate increase every year. All they need to do is keep up with the CEO's salary an bonus increases

They ( and every other Cable Company ) did that before, then came along DBS, a mass exodus left Cable to go to DBS, Cable understood they had to become better and they should not make the same mistakes twice by just standing still.

boo
05-21-06, 12:57 PM
Wouldn't you want more value for your dollar? If comcast raised the rates on the DVR or HD package next year, and didn't add anything throughout the whole year, you wouldn't at least explore your options? They are all companies, and will do what makes sense to them, but as a consumer, you deserve the best value for your dollar, to ridicule those people to pursue that is ludicrous. I feel your loyalty to a company that doesn't have your best interests at heart, make no sense to me. E* is fast becoming the staple for HD programming, will have 29 national HD channels in June, add the locals that's easily 34-36 channels. So if you still wish to pay for rate increases higher than the rate of inflation every year, be my guest. But to not consider leaving when you already know that your interests is low priority to them, now that's insane.

The one thing you must not understand is cable is a lot cheaper when you factor in things like $299.00 to upgrade your HD DVD with E* ( I don't know how much it is with D* ) or close to the same ( Comcast everything package w/HD is $99.00 in my area, E*'s w/HD is also $99 +$5.00 for locals ).

Also, the triple play ( Cable, Broadband and Phone ) deals with Comcast are cheaper for me instead of being with one DBS company, another for Broadband and another for Phone, I save around $40-50 a month by getting all from one place.

bubba5
05-21-06, 01:19 PM
The one thing you must not understand is cable is a lot cheaper when you factor in things like $299.00 to upgrade your HD DVD with E* ( I don't know how much it is with D* ) or close to the same ( Comcast everything package w/HD is $99.00 in my area, E*'s w/HD is also $99 +$5.00 for locals ).

Also, the triple play ( Cable, Broadband and Phone ) deals with Comcast are cheaper for me instead of being with one DBS company, another for Broadband and another for Phone, I save around $40-50 a month by getting all from one place.

Comcast has a Triple Play package for $99? I thought it was only cablevision and Time Warner. Also, I cant even get Comcast Voice in my area.

DDisney
05-21-06, 01:57 PM
Comcast is interested in HD (we had a cost-effective HD-DVR for years), just more interested in phone sevice and digital simulcasting and On Demand services and shopping channels (ie revenue-producing things - do you blame them?).

If you expected Comcast to look at NGHD and say "Gee, that might be an entertaining and educational HD channel that our HD customers would like, and if we add it before the satellites that would give us a competitive HD advantage" and open specific negotiations, well, I don't think that would or will happen. They will wait until their NG agreements run out and then, maybe, include the HD channel in the next agreement.

Rich N.

Yes, I do understand the push for revenue producing services as a priority over HD, but they do get more revenue for the HD/DVR boxes and premium channels (that I only have due to the HD) and I would think that HD customers are more likely to have the more expensive packages as well. I have two HD/DVR boxes now and will eventually have more.

I am happy with the quality of the Comcast HD channels, but not the quantity, and I really don't understand moves like taking away UHD for areas that had the bandwidth to provide UHD and both INHD's during the Olympics. I would love to have ESPN2HD for the World Cup and then college football but the WC is looking like a no-go at this point.

Plus, while the numbers may still be relatively small, we all know that more and more HD sets are sold every day, so it is an increasing base for them. I have not seen any recent stats or estimates on the number of HD customers that Comcast and the other providers have but that would be interesting.

I am not yet ready to leave Comcast but the reason that I moved to Comcast in the first place and left Bellsouth Digital Cable (excellent digital cable quality BTW) was that Bellsouth has continued to ignore HD. I feel that Comcast is starting to fit into the category of dragging their feet on HD and if that continues then I will have to evaluate my options.

nightowl
05-21-06, 01:59 PM
I agree with raidbuck, Comcast is a company first. Their going to do what makes financial sense for them as a business. There looking at the majority not the minority. Which is why it will be a long time before we ever get HDNET. I'm sure they would add another HD channel when the price was right for the amount of HD viewers that they have. I want more HD channels like everyone else on here, but saying your going to leave Comcast because you think their lazy with adding new channels or they simply don't care makes no sense to me...

I agree. That's why when I dropped Comcast, I emailed the CEO and the local VP and told them that I dropped Comcast video services because of the lack of HDTV channels. My letter was proper, polite, and to the point. I had no issues with customer service, my hardware worked properly, however I want HDTV channels, and it didn't appear that Comcast would have the programming selection that I requested in a timeline that would be acceptable to me.

My response back was that they have some projects ongoing, but it would still be a while before any significant amount of HD programming would be available. I'll be happy to go back to Comcast when and if they can catch up to the competitors WRT HDTV programming. The only way for them to know that is to speak with my wallet. So they lost a $100+ a month customer because their priorities weren't consistent with my desires as a customer.

boo
05-21-06, 02:06 PM
Comcast has a Triple Play package for $99? I thought it was only cablevision and Time Warner. Also, I cant even get Comcast Voice in my area.

I did not say that, when I wrote Everything Pack that was about what E* offered vs. Comcast and since E* does not offer Phone and Broadband I thought the post was clear.

Scarpad
05-21-06, 02:49 PM
I'm Leaving Comcast but for an opposite Reason, My HD is Great we have pretty much every HD Channel that Comcast Offers , DVR, Internet etc and my bill is over $200 a month, even dropping down to the minimum With DVR would be around $150. I just cannot afford HD anymore and them to get what Cropped Movies on HBO. Im gonna go back to a standard Direct TV Package with a DVR and pay about $55 a month and get Verizon DSL for about $30 versues $47 a month with Comcast. I Love my HD but it's tuff to Justify the $200 a month any more. I'll put that toward getting a HD DVD Player eventually and Disks.

jrusnak
05-21-06, 10:48 PM
I'm seriously considering leaving Comcast as well. With a monthly bill (including Internet) of over $160.00, annual rate increases with no additional HD channels, and finicky DVRs (getting my third replacement in 2 years), the HD selection at Dish (especially MONSTER) is looking pretty inviting. With FIOS startingup in NJ, you'd think Comcast would want to make an HD investment to avoid losing even more subscribers to that option. Apparently, they do not. But another rate increase is surely on the way.


I'm Leaving Comcast but for an opposite Reason, My HD is Great we have pretty much every HD Channel that Comcast Offers , DVR, Internet etc and my bill is over $200 a month, even dropping down to the minimum With DVR would be around $150. I just cannot afford HD anymore and them to get what Cropped Movies on HBO. Im gonna go back to a standard Direct TV Package with a DVR and pay about $55 a month and get Verizon DSL for about $30 versues $47 a month with Comcast. I Love my HD but it's tuff to Justify the $200 a month any more. I'll put that toward getting a HD DVD Player eventually and Disks.

boo
05-21-06, 11:04 PM
I'm seriously considering leaving Comcast as well. With a monthly bill (including Internet) of over $160.00, annual rate increases with no additional HD channels, and finicky DVRs (getting my third replacement in 2 years), the HD selection at Dish (especially MONSTER) is looking pretty inviting. With FIOS startingup in NJ, you'd think Comcast would want to make an HD investment to avoid losing even more subscribers to that option. Apparently, they do not. But another rate increase is surely on the way.

And how much did you have to pay for that replacement?

And you talk about 'annual rate increases ', what, E* does not increase costs every year, and if you are talking about saving money, how about that $299.00 you have to pay up-front to lease the HD-DVD from E*, does that not factor in to your monthly costs.

roachxp
05-21-06, 11:07 PM
Prediction for next HD channel ESPN2 (well in Boston ,anyway) :)

I also want a dedicated NESN-HD channel I hate watching the post game in HD on INHD2 and having it cut back to normal programming in the middle of the show.

Scarpad
05-21-06, 11:13 PM
The Initial Cost of getting Dish HD Is really just Too much For Me or I'd Give Dish a Try.

Slickone
05-22-06, 01:50 AM
The one thing you must not understand is cable is a lot cheaper when you factor in things like $299.00 to upgrade your HD DVD with E* ( I don't know how much it is with D* ) or close to the same ( Comcast everything package w/HD is $99.00 in my area, E*'s w/HD is also $99 +$5.00 for locals ).

Also, the triple play ( Cable, Broadband and Phone ) deals with Comcast are cheaper for me instead of being with one DBS company, another for Broadband and another for Phone, I save around $40-50 a month by getting all from one place.

Just got my rebate check back for that, didn't pay 1 dime for my HD equipment. They always try that, with the deal that I got, I was paying $180 for all 3 services. After I got my Sat hookup, I realized that I could get HBO & SHO at the same price that I was paying for the Digital Plus. If you like premiums & ON Demand Service, go Comcast, If you like NFL in HD, and good PPV in HD, go D*, If you are in the game for HD programming, go E*, they are the only ones making significant strides, while D* promises things will be different by 2007, E* made their plan after buying the VOOM satellite, by the end of 2006 E* will have well over 40 HD channels, will be more than Comcast and D* combined, unless D* make a stong move to answer E* moves.

JOSELUNA
05-22-06, 08:46 AM
Who Has More Hd Channels Comcast,directtv Or Dishnetwork?

blitzen102
05-22-06, 09:46 AM
Who Has More Hd Channels Comcast,directtv Or Dishnetwork?

See the "HDTV Channel Lineups on DBS, Cable, FiOS, 4DTV!" sticky.



Can we please try to keep postings in here on topic? I and others keep an eye on this thread hoping for news on Comcast's next HD channel and there is a lot of other stuff being discussed here.

Thanks

chinch
05-22-06, 10:12 AM
here in NJ, it is expected today that our legislators will FINALLY put some pressure on Comcast (and cablevision, etc.)... verizon is looking to be cleared to allow for fios TV services on a statewide basis :)

nywst
05-22-06, 02:43 PM
here in NJ, it is expected today that our legislators will FINALLY put some pressure on Comcast (and cablevision, etc.)... verizon is looking to be cleared to allow for fios TV services on a statewide basis :)

That's wonderful news! Do you know the time table for Fios? I just cannot wait to dump Comcast.

jrusnak
05-22-06, 02:43 PM
And how much did you have to pay for that replacement?

And you talk about 'annual rate increases ', what, E* does not increase costs every year, and if you are talking about saving money, how about that $299.00 you have to pay up-front to lease the HD-DVD from E*, does that not factor in to your monthly costs.

Actually, the offer I have in front of me offers the DVR for free!Plus two airline tickets. Plus a premium channel for free for three months. As I said, I'm looking for more HD content. But I'm still thinking about it. One of the advantages of Comcast is that they state they do not compress HD broadcasts. I don't know what the quality of HD on E* actually is.

However, to keep on topic, some areas are reporting that Comcast (somewhere on their website) will be adding ESPN2 this year. Not a channel I'm interested in, but I know many others are.

chinch
05-22-06, 02:50 PM
That's wonderful news! Do you know the time table for Fios? I just cannot wait to dump Comcast.
they're saying it should pass today... 90 days to be enacted and 45 days for some other procedures so fall 2006. not statewide but it sounded like most areas where DSL is a available would be targeted.

edit here is a link to the article online
http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/index.ssf?/base/news-6/114827550464330.xml&coll=1

HDNair
05-22-06, 02:54 PM
Actually, the offer I have in front of me offers the DVR for free!Plus two airline tickets. Plus a premium channel for free for three months. As I said, I'm looking for more HD content. But I'm still thinking about it. One of the advantages of Comcast is that they state they do not compress HD broadcasts. I don't know what the quality of HD on E* actually is.

However, to keep on topic, some areas are reporting that Comcast (somewhere on their website) will be adding ESPN2 this year. Not a channel I'm interested in, but I know many others are.

Where did you find this offer? The single thing holding me back from switching to E* is their terrible deal on the HD DVR.... $299 up front to lease equipment plus an 18 month contract is too unreasonable for me... but if I could get a DVR for free I would probably deal with the contract.

Edit: Are you sure this deal isn't for their SD DVR?

gregmp
05-22-06, 04:59 PM
I pay Comcast under $50 per month for 1 HD box, 1 HD-DVR box, basic cable and digital cable w/ UHD, NESN-HD, TNT-HD, ALL LOCAL HD, ESPN-HD, DISCOVERY-HD,INHD-1/2.

I get verizon DSL for $15 per month. I think these are both hell-of-a-deals.

If you feel the price it too high....why don't you cancell HBO, SHO, MAX and the rest of the overpriced stations. You can only watch one station at a time anyway.

greg

boo
05-22-06, 05:09 PM
Actually, the offer I have in front of me offers the DVR for free!Plus two airline tickets. Plus a premium channel for free for three months. As I said, I'm looking for more HD content. But I'm still thinking about it. One of the advantages of Comcast is that they state they do not compress HD broadcasts. I don't know what the quality of HD on E* actually is.

That is on the SD DVR, not the HD, read the offer carefully, I get those things in the mail all the time.

chinch
05-22-06, 05:17 PM
I pay Comcast under $50 per month for 1 HD box, 1 HD-DVR box, basic cable and digital cable w/ UHD, NESN-HD, TNT-HD, ALL LOCAL HD, ESPN-HD, DISCOVERY-HD,INHD-1/2.

I get verizon DSL for $15 per month. I think these are both hell-of-a-deals.

If you feel the price it too high....why don't you cancell HBO, SHO, MAX and the rest of the overpriced stations. You can only watch one station at a time anyway.

greg
Those are great deals but not realistic for everyone.

My comcast bill is almost $140 and dropping hbo/max cuts it down only $20.

verizon doesn't have $15/mo dsl here and i'm on a reduced rate "comcast offer" for cable inet $29/12mo as it is.

maxman
05-22-06, 09:08 PM
they're saying it should pass today...

It passed.

Renagade
05-23-06, 12:44 PM
here in NJ, it is expected today that our legislators will FINALLY put some pressure on Comcast (and cablevision, etc.)... verizon is looking to be cleared to allow for fios TV services on a statewide basis :)


I wish it was possible for them to come to the detroit area. I really don't know about sbc/att and their future service.

chinch
05-23-06, 02:24 PM
It passed.
:D :D :D :D :D

jrusnak
05-23-06, 08:51 PM
That is on the SD DVR, not the HD, read the offer carefully, I get those things in the mail all the time.

It actually doesn't specify, aside from Dual Tuner DVR/Reciever. With Comcast, the same DVR handles SD and HD. Only deterrent is if you don't order or have any HD programming. I'd assume it would be the same with E*, but perhaps I'm wrong. Do they have a seperate DVR/Receiver for HD?

jrusnak
05-23-06, 08:53 PM
Where did you find this offer? The single thing holding me back from switching to E* is their terrible deal on the HD DVR.... $299 up front to lease equipment plus an 18 month contract is too unreasonable for me... but if I could get a DVR for free I would probably deal with the contract.

Edit: Are you sure this deal isn't for their SD DVR?


www.SatelliteSales.com

jrusnak
05-23-06, 08:57 PM
www.SatelliteSales.com

Never mind. Just checked this site and the HD DVR apparantly is not part of the deal. Guess I'll keep waiting for FIOS.

maxman
05-23-06, 10:39 PM
:D :D :D :D :D

http://www.nj.com/search/index.ssf?/base/business-0/1148362356317610.xml?starledger?btel&coll=1

chinch
05-23-06, 11:46 PM
thanks... those smileys were of joy (not doubt) :)

this can't pass and happen fast enough.

QZ1
05-24-06, 01:18 PM
With Comcast, the same DVR handles SD and HD. Only deterrent is if you don't order or have any HD programming.
Actually, it depends on your area. In Motorola areas, there is only one DVR that handles HD/SD. (Motorola just announced an SD DVR, but no word, AFAIK, when or if Comcast will carry it.) In SA areas, there is a choice of SD or HD DVRs.

With Comcast there are no HD packages per se. HD is included in Basic, Premiums, and Digital Classic.

Now if one has a Motorola DVR and an Analog TV, one will receive the HD channels downconverted based on existing subscription. And when one gets an HDTV, all that is needed is an HDMI, DVI, or Component cable, and HD is in full resolution.

wstanko
05-24-06, 01:57 PM
Something on topic to think about. It appears that someone has let the cat out of the barn. Where is jwhip's input????

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=680188&page=1&pp=30

Renagade
05-28-06, 04:44 PM
Hey guys, I was just in a Best Buy and in their TV area they had a partially built Comcast display. What got my attention was that on there list of HD channels next to ESPN HD they had HDNET next to it. The person in the area didn't have any info but he did tell me to come back later in the week when a Comcast Rep is usually their. This is Best Buy so who knows. Could just be a mistake....

JWhip
05-28-06, 07:19 PM
Sorry, been out of touch guys and will be until July. Look for an announcement of a new master contract between Disney and Comcast. Once that is announced, ESPN2HD should be rolled out in a number of markets with the bandwidth available shortly thereafter. I have not been advised that the master contract is finished. Should I hear more, I will post it. I know that ESPN2HD will be the next HD channel added. HDNet? I would be Shocked to see that but who knows? Comcast has been getting a lot of requests for it.

DDisney
05-29-06, 11:08 AM
Sorry, been out of touch guys and will be until July. Look for an announcement of a new master contract between Disney and Comcast. Once that is announced, ESPN2HD should be rolled out in a number of markets with the bandwidth available shortly thereafter. I have not been advised that the master contract is finished. Should I hear more, I will post it. I know that ESPN2HD will be the next HD channel added. HDNet? I would be Shocked to see that but who knows? Comcast has been getting a lot of requests for it.

JWhip, thanks, been waiting for your input. That is at least hopeful news for those of us waiting on ESPN2HD. I just hope that there is a chance that this could happen before the World Cup and that my area can handle it, which I think should be true since we had UHD during the Olympics without losing either of the INHD channels, though it disappeared right after the games concluded.

Fingers crossed.

Marcus Carr
05-29-06, 01:52 PM
Something on topic to think about. It appears that someone has let the cat out of the barn. Where is jwhip's input????

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=680188&page=1&pp=30

When I started that thread the effective date for ESPN2 HD for my area was July 1. Another zip code had June 1st. As it has been removed from both lineups, who knows if either was correct. We will find out in the next 3 to 34 days.

At least NFL Network HD is still listed for July 1, so that one is most likely correct. And I still have Universal HD. Three channels in the same year is a blistering pace for Comcast.

And let's not forget that MHD is also a strong possibility.

HDNet? Well, this year has been full of surprises. But that would top them all.

(Of course all of this is moot if FIOS shows up in my area. They seem to be making their way here.:))

nhey
05-29-06, 05:23 PM
As I stated on another similar thread last week, TNT-HD is being added to channel 204 (also Current TV to channel 107, not an HD channel) on May 31. I got the message on my 6412 STB last week.
I live in central NJ.

WilEAdams
05-29-06, 07:58 PM
Well, it looks like there will be changes happening in Indy at the end of this month for the HD lineup. I got a message on the first day of service (Friday) stating that the HD channels would be changing channels at the end of the month. Then another message today stating that the HD channels would be changing at the end of this month to allow more services or channels. This was a different message and said "more". So, I am assuming on May 31 the channel locations will change and on June 1 new channels will arrive.

We do not have UHD here or a few other channels listed on other systems. So, I am hoping that these are coming. I asked rep who installed my cable in the new place on Friday about UHD, MTVHD, National Geographic Channel HD, Food HD and HGTVHD. He said that he could not deny these are coming and that there were about 7 or 8 new channels coming in HD this summer to Comcast. I then asked about more local channels such as WNDY. He said that local HD channels will be coming, but he is not sure if these are part of the new channels or when they will be available. I was told that HDNet would NOT be on the Indianapolis Comcast system for a long time.

He did say there were other Digital Channels which would be coming soon. Seems odd that he would not deny the one set of channels and said channels were coming but basically said no on HDNet out right.

TravelFan1
05-30-06, 10:39 AM
Sorry, been out of touch guys and will be until July. Look for an announcement of a new master contract between Disney and Comcast. Once that is announced, ESPN2HD should be rolled out in a number of markets with the bandwidth available shortly thereafter. I have not been advised that the master contract is finished. Should I hear more, I will post it. I know that ESPN2HD will be the next HD channel added. HDNet? I would be Shocked to see that but who knows? Comcast has been getting a lot of requests for it.
JWhip, thanks for your feedack. Quick follow-up question: Do you know what is the plan to address the lack of bandwidth for the various Comcast systems that have yet to get TNT-HD, U-HD, for instance, the ones in Northern/Central NJ and in the CA Bay Area? Because it's been quite frustrating to see all these 850Mhz systems getting all new channels whereas most of the country doesn't get them.

scanpa
05-30-06, 12:32 PM
JWhip, thanks for your feedack. Quick follow-up question: Do you know what is the plan to address the lack of bandwidth for the various Comcast systems that have yet to get TNT-HD, U-HD, for instance, the ones in Northern/Central NJ and in the CA Bay Area? Because it's been quite frustrating to see all these 850Mhz systems getting all new channels whereas most of the country doesn't get them.



All Comcast cable Plants that use the following cable systems:

1) 54 Mhz - 550 Mhz System
2) 48 Mhz - 750 Mhz System
3) 42 Mhz - 850 Mhz system

are to be upgraded by end of 2008 to the current:

4) 5 MHz to 1000 MHz system.

Just give them some time to get it done. If you have a type 1 system, they will more then likely have to replace all of the coax from the drop point to the structure and the home owner will need to replace the inside coax and any spliters that do not have the new bandwith specs.

Marcus Carr
05-30-06, 12:46 PM
All Comcast cable Plants that use the following cable systems:

1) 54 Mhz - 550 Mhz System
2) 48 Mhz - 750 Mhz System
3) 42 Mhz - 850 Mhz system

are to be upgraded by end of 2008 to the current:

4) 5 MHz to 1000 MHz system.


From 850 to 1000 MHz...hopefully a lot of that will go toward new HD channels. That's assuming I'm still with Comcast in 2008, which is highly unlikely.

maxman
05-30-06, 12:48 PM
All Comcast cable Plants that use the following cable systems:

1) 54 Mhz - 550 Mhz System
2) 48 Mhz - 750 Mhz System
3) 42 Mhz - 850 Mhz system

are to be upgraded by end of 2008 to the current:

4) 5 MHz to 1000 MHz system.

Just give them some time to get it done. If you have a type 1 system, they will more then likely have to replace all of the coax from the drop point to the structure and the home owner will need to replace the inside coax and any spliters that do not have the new bandwith specs.

So how does one determine which system they're on?

keenan
05-30-06, 01:18 PM
All Comcast cable Plants that use the following cable systems:

1) 54 Mhz - 550 Mhz System
2) 48 Mhz - 750 Mhz System
3) 42 Mhz - 850 Mhz system

are to be upgraded by end of 2008 to the current:

4) 5 MHz to 1000 MHz system.

Just give them some time to get it done. If you have a type 1 system, they will more then likely have to replace all of the coax from the drop point to the structure and the home owner will need to replace the inside coax and any spliters that do not have the new bandwith specs.
The Chief Technology Officer for Comcast has said flat out that if 550 systems have not already been upgraded to 750 or 860 they're not going to be due to either/both cost and/or franchise issues.

Cable companies are installing 1Ghz equipment when doing maintenance or repair but a full 1Ghz system will be a long time coming, maybe by 2008 but that seems optimistic.

Good article at the following link John Mason posted in another thread about how cable is struggling with HD, primarily on how to get a return on the investment made to carry the additional channels. It seems currently that the cost to upgrade to carry more channels is not worth the investment since most cablecos do not charge a specific HD price.

http://www.cedmagazine.com/article/CA6319823.html
The Big Squeeze - 4/1/2006 - CED - CA6319823

jrsxrd
05-30-06, 10:15 PM
I already get INHD2 BUT no sound. Does any one have a list of channels in fresno ca. area?

keenan
05-31-06, 12:48 AM
I already get INHD2 BUT no sound. Does any one have a list of channels in fresno ca. area?
You should try the local Fresno HDTV thread,

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=319177&page=1&pp=30
Fresno, CA - HDTV - AVS Forum

maxman
05-31-06, 07:42 AM
TNT-HD appeared this morning on channel 204 (South Jersey).

Doolittle
05-31-06, 09:40 AM
TNT-HD appeared this morning on channel 204 (South Jersey).
Nothing here. I haven't gotten a message either. Maybe I should move a few miles to the south for more channels. :P

Addicted2HD4Now
05-31-06, 09:53 AM
So how does one determine which system they're on?

The only way I could find out for sure was to look on the DPUC website for my state and find the franchise agreement and see what it said in there about upgrading the system and what deadline was set. I was also able to find a filing by the cable company that said they had completed the required upgrade to 750mhz and the date that it was completed.

Another way is to flip through the channels and go into the diagnostic screens and see what the highest frequency is that you can find. If you find one over 550mhz then you probably on a 750mhz system. If you find one over 750mhz then you're on a 850mhz system. Certainly a time consuming process.

rob316
05-31-06, 09:57 AM
TNT-HD appeared this morning on channel 204 (South Jersey).


I am in Central NJ (Carteret) no TNT-HD here either, Comcast stinks can't wait for FIOS.

Doolittle
05-31-06, 10:09 AM
I am in Central NJ (Carteret) no TNT-HD here either, Comcast stinks can't wait for FIOS.I'm waiting to see how FIOS is, too. Comcast should just spend their money on better service instead of bombarding us with all the propaganda smearing Verizon and satelite providers.

Marcus Carr
05-31-06, 10:14 AM
Another way is to flip through the channels and go into the diagnostic screens and see what the highest frequency is that you can find. If you find one over 550mhz then you probably on a 750mhz system. If you find one over 750mhz then you're on a 850mhz system. Certainly a time consuming process.

Check the HD channels first. Might save some time. Mine all have high numbers.

Another clue might be whether you have On Demand and digital simulcasting.

Scarpad
05-31-06, 10:17 AM
I'd love to give Fios a try but in Western Mass and it may never reach here from the eastern shore. I recently went back to Verizon DSL fro Comcast because of price.

maxman
05-31-06, 10:20 AM
Check the HD channels first. Might save some time. Mine all have high numbers.

Another clue might be whether you have On Demand and digital simulcasting.

All of the above (HD channels in the 200's) --- where would that put me?

Marcus Carr
05-31-06, 10:21 AM
All of the above (HD channels in the 200's) --- where would that put me?

The frequencies, not the channel numbers.

maxman
05-31-06, 10:26 AM
The frequencies, not the channel numbers.

Don't know the frequencies but I have OnDemand and we're all digital now.

nywst
05-31-06, 04:04 PM
I am in Central NJ (Carteret) no TNT-HD here either, Comcast stinks can't wait for FIOS.

Apparently my town is not south enough in NJ, 'cause I still don't have TNT HD. Yeah, Comcrap sucks.

jeffb831
05-31-06, 04:20 PM
Apparently my town is not south enough in NJ, 'cause I still don't have TNT HD. Yeah, Comcrap sucks.

Where in Mercer county are you? Comcast in Lawrenceville has it.

hdtvjunkie247
05-31-06, 04:40 PM
Anybody know the reason as to why only South Jersey received TNT-HD today? We received Current TV on ch.107 here on the Comcast of Ocean County system (Brick) but still no TNT-HD.

TravelFan1
05-31-06, 04:56 PM
Anybody know the reason as to why only South Jersey received TNT-HD today? We received Current TV on ch.107 here on the Comcast of Ocean County system (Brick) but still no TNT-HD.
Because SJ representatives vote against statewide franchises and North and Central NJ representatives vote for it :)

NortheasternPJ
05-31-06, 05:12 PM
I was just watching my TV and the DVR automatically started to DL new firmware. hopefully there will be more HD when it comes back up. (Salem, MA)

michaelggray
05-31-06, 08:55 PM
Because SJ representatives vote against statewide franchises and North and Central NJ representatives vote for it :)

Actually because Ocean County is in the NY DMA and is hooked up to the Plainfield (I think) headend like the rest of northern NJ.

Mercer, Burlington and counties south or Burl. are in the Phila. DMA and hooked up to a headend that serves NJ counties in the Phila DMA.

stw2323
06-01-06, 12:44 AM
The news on ESPN2HD is not so good here in Chicago. I talked to Corporate Customer service today and the woman told me that they are just now starting to enter negotiations with Disney (who owns ABC and the ESPN networks) and said that usually means something may happen within the next 6 months. She also said that they have a business plan to add several new HD channels in the next year but, as usual, can't tell me which ones their aiming for. And then I got the usual crap about how she's taking my complaint down and will submit it. I guess I am still hoping for a temporary ESPN2HD for World Cup, but it sure doesn't look good.

nywst
06-01-06, 09:49 AM
Where in Mercer county are you? Comcast in Lawrenceville has it.

West Windsor

kblee
06-01-06, 10:12 AM
The news on ESPN2HD is not so good here in Chicago. I talked to Corporate Customer service today and the woman told me that they are just now starting to enter negotiations with Disney (who owns ABC and the ESPN networks) and said that usually means something may happen within the next 6 months. She also said that they have a business plan to add several new HD channels in the next year but, as usual, can't tell me which ones their aiming for. And then I got the usual crap about how she's taking my complaint down and will submit it. I guess I am still hoping for a temporary ESPN2HD for World Cup, but it sure doesn't look good.

Not sure what she's talking about. They've been in negotiations for many months now. And the negotiations aren't location specific, so good news or bad it will affect all locations that have available capacity to add new channels.

Also being in Chicago and interested in ESPN2HD, I spoke with a CSR yesterday about a separate issue and happened to ask about the addition of ESPN2HD. She had not heard anything, but put me on hold to see if she sould find someone who knew. Apparently, her supervisor had just been told that it is coming soon, but they don't have a specific date. She indicated that we should be "on the lookout as it will likely just show up unannounced."

Could be a load of garbage, but it gave me some hope...

JDLIVE
06-01-06, 08:16 PM
I was just watching my TV and the DVR automatically started to DL new firmware. hopefully there will be more HD when it comes back up. (Salem, MA)

Your firmware version has nothing to do with how many HD channels Comcast offers.

stw2323
06-03-06, 03:28 PM
Not sure what she's talking about. They've been in negotiations for many months now. And the negotiations aren't location specific, so good news or bad it will affect all locations that have available capacity to add new channels.

Also being in Chicago and interested in ESPN2HD, I spoke with a CSR yesterday about a separate issue and happened to ask about the addition of ESPN2HD. She had not heard anything, but put me on hold to see if she sould find someone who knew. Apparently, her supervisor had just been told that it is coming soon, but they don't have a specific date. She indicated that we should be "on the lookout as it will likely just show up unannounced."

Could be a load of garbage, but it gave me some hope...

It does seem as though whenever a new channel shows up, it does do so unannounced which is strange. You'd figure they would want to amp up the publicity with a big rollout like Dish did when it added ESPN2HD.

Still, why they would add ESPN2HD in July or something after the World Cup has concluded boggles my mind.

aholbert32
06-03-06, 08:03 PM
It does seem as though whenever a new channel shows up, it does do so unannounced which is strange. You'd figure they would want to amp up the publicity with a big rollout like Dish did when it added ESPN2HD.

Still, why they would add ESPN2HD in July or something after the World Cup has concluded boggles my mind.

Just got off the phone with a Comcast CSR. She said that ESPN2HD should be coming to Howard County MD in June. I would expect it will be the same thing as with the Olympics when Comcast added the UNHD the day before the opening ceremonies.

roachxp
06-03-06, 11:55 PM
I hope we get FX in HD I noticed SKY One HD in the UK has some FX shows in HD like Rescue Me, 24 the previous season.

Marcus Carr
06-04-06, 03:38 AM
I would expect it will be the same thing as with the Olympics when Comcast added the UNHD the day before the opening ceremonies.

If so, only four days to go. (ESPN2 HD coverage of the World Cup Starts Friday, June 9.)

http://hd.espn.com/hd/schedule.jsp#espn2

hdtvjunkie247
06-04-06, 05:18 PM
If Comcast can't add the channel fulltime, than I'd atleast wish that they would preempt one of the INHDs and put the World Cup coverage on them, similar to what they did with Universal HD and the Olympics.

I think that Comcast is underestimating how many soccer fans they have.

willwhdtv
06-04-06, 07:14 PM
It will probably will be added when the first USA game is on ESPN2 whenever that is, anyone?

keenan
06-04-06, 07:45 PM
It will probably will be added when the first USA game is on ESPN2 whenever that is, anyone?
Here's a schedule but I think it only goes out 7 days.

http://www.livesoccertv.com/soccer-channels.php
:: Soccer Channels :: Live Soccer TV

aholbert32
06-04-06, 08:01 PM
If Comcast can't add the channel fulltime, than I'd atleast wish that they would preempt one of the INHDs and put the World Cup coverage on them, similar to what they did with Universal HD and the Olympics.

I think that Comcast is underestimating how many soccer fans they have.

They didnt add UNHD for you guys in NJ? They still have that channel for us in MD.

kblee
06-04-06, 10:53 PM
Here's a schedule but I think it only goes out 7 days.

http://www.livesoccertv.com/soccer-channels.php
:: Soccer Channels :: Live Soccer TV

Here's the full World Cup TV Schedule (http://media.espn.com/ESPNToday/2006/Mar_06/cup_sked.htm)

eric.exe
06-05-06, 03:13 AM
Where in Mercer county are you? Comcast in Lawrenceville has it.


Sweet, another Lawrencian!

theguest
06-05-06, 04:18 AM
We need a JWhip update!

JWhip, request for part-time ESPN2HD for the 4 hours a day during the World Cup, similar to the Olympics coverage!

maxman
06-05-06, 07:26 AM
They didnt add UNHD for you guys in NJ? They still have that channel for us in MD.

No, they didn't (S. Jersey).

sikoniko
06-05-06, 08:30 AM
my fsn-hd seems to have disapeared. seemed like a waiste of a channel anyways, cause it was only on a few hours a week. maybe they are preparing it for something else?

kevin j
06-05-06, 08:08 PM
Comcast needs to stop dragging their feet and add ESPN2HD irregardless of the cost.

NeonDeion
06-05-06, 08:27 PM
"Irregardless" is not a word.

drhill
06-05-06, 08:52 PM
Yah Comcast. You added TNT in my area just in time for 2 nba games.... even though you added and then dropped UHD for the olympics. Sad. I watched so much less basketball this year because of no TNTHD.

willwhdtv
06-05-06, 09:34 PM
I noticed Ch 246 was added Friday but it says TBA. Any ideas?

kblee
06-05-06, 10:10 PM
"Irregardless" is not a word.

It's in the dictionary...

Irregardless - Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Irregardless)

fender4645
06-05-06, 10:12 PM
It's in the dictionary...

Irregardless - Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Irregardless)

Did you read the Usage Note:

Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

kblee
06-05-06, 10:26 PM
Did you read the Usage Note:

Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

The original comment was "Irregardless is not a word". Per the first 3 words of the Usage Note you so thoughfully posted, "Irregardless is a word..."

I never claimed the original poster used the "word" properly, but NeonDeion decided to go off topic to make an incorrect claim, so I felt it necessary to correct.

nikeykid
06-05-06, 10:26 PM
lol i didn't know it wasn't a formal word, but hey, language is what you make of it. its a HD forum btw, not english class.

kenvt
06-06-06, 06:42 AM
Comcast needs to stop dragging their feet and add ESPN2HD irregardless of the cost.

Your kidding right ?

auburn34
06-06-06, 07:16 AM
Still, why they would add ESPN2HD in July or something after the World Cup has concluded boggles my mind.

Let me preface my answer by saying that I am a huge soccer fan who played throughout my childhood including on my high school team. I also play in an adult league. But you know what that makes in here in the USA....a minority.

The TV ratings for the daytime games on ESPN2 probably won't beat the ratings for repeats of the World Series of Poker. I would love it if Comcast would add ESPN2HD by Friday. But it boggles my mind that people think the World Cup gives Comcast any type of ratings incentive to add ESPN2HD in the next couple of weeks. The real ratings incentive that they have coming up is to add it by September for the start of college football.

TravelFan1
06-06-06, 08:18 AM
I noticed Ch 246 was added Friday but it says TBA. Any ideas?
246 - Eyewitness Now channel - A digital channel from our local ABC(Channel 7). Weather(mostly) and on the botton of the screen, news headlines.

TravelFan1
06-06-06, 08:21 AM
He's probably not kidding but you know what? That only shows another reason why a-la-carte cable must be pushed by the congress. You may hate sports and you'd rather pay a smaller cable bill by taking all of the sports channels out of your lineup whereas <i>kevin j</i> would pay a premium to get ESPN2HD.

ak3883
06-06-06, 12:37 PM
I'd be willing to bet ESPN2HD is going on Ch 203 on the systems in SE PA and South Jersey where CSNHD is 200, ESPNHD is 202.

Marcus Carr
06-06-06, 12:40 PM
I'd bet everything I own that ESPN2 HD will go on channel 253 in Baltimore.

shades
06-06-06, 01:25 PM
i would bet 203 in south jersey is empty space till 2007

I'd be willing to bet ESPN2HD is going on Ch 203 on the systems in SE PA and South Jersey where CSNHD is 200, ESPNHD is 202.

Samuelson
06-06-06, 02:18 PM
I sent an email yesterday to the Comcast Audit Committee in hopes of getting ESPN2HD added before the World Cup.

This morning while I was out, I recieved a call from comcast on my phone. Maybe it was from one of the directors on the audit committee.

Either way, it felt good that maybe things were moving on Comcasts end.

Here is what I wrote in my email:

To the Audit Committee,

A good deal of the HD subscribers in my market will be without HD coverage of the World Cup If you've ever watched soccer you know that standard definition broadcasts don't even begin to capture the details necessary for a proper soccer-viewing experience.

So please, if you could please replace inHD2 for a mere month of the schedule with espn2HD (where a good deal of the soccer games will be broadcast), the entire HD market would be grateful.

Thank you for your listening ear,

kevin j
06-06-06, 02:29 PM
I also emailed Comcast about the world cup and ESPN2HD.

Samuelson
06-06-06, 02:47 PM
.

willwhdtv
06-06-06, 02:53 PM
So what did Lori tell you?

gtree10
06-06-06, 03:37 PM
the entire HD market would be grateful.

Thanks for speaking for the ENTIRE HD market. :rolleyes: I will be pissed if they decide to yank inHD2 for ESPN2, it means I lose my RSNs HD games (I couldn't care less about the world cup).

gtree10
06-06-06, 03:43 PM
He's probably not kidding but you know what? That only shows another reason why a-la-carte cable must be pushed by the congress. You may hate sports and you'd rather pay a smaller cable bill by taking all of the sports channels out of your lineup whereas <i>kevin j</i> would pay a premium to get ESPN2HD.
Even if it is approved by Congress that doesn't mean Comcast has to offer the channel for you to purchase. Absent action by Cable companies they will still be bandwidth constrained.

Samuelson
06-06-06, 04:04 PM
Thanks for speaking for the ENTIRE HD market. :rolleyes: I will be pissed if they decide to yank inHD2 for ESPN2, it means I lose my RSNs HD games (I couldn't care less about the world cup).

Just for a month!

Marcus Carr
06-06-06, 04:37 PM
My RSN has its own channel, but I still wouldn't want to trade one channel for another.

maxman
06-06-06, 05:48 PM
WHAT DID LORI TELL YOU?

nhey
06-06-06, 06:01 PM
I'd be willing to bet ESPN2HD is going on Ch 203 on the systems in SE PA and South Jersey where CSNHD is 200, ESPNHD is 202.


Also, TNT-HD is 204, meaning that the 203 slot is open and ready for ESPN2HD.

Just got a message today indicating CMT (country music television) is being added on June 15 (not an HD channel). In the last month, they've added TNT-HD, current Tv, and will be adding CMT. Clearly, they have more bandwidth available. I'm sure they'll be adding ESPN2-HD shortly. This has not been the case the last year or so.
I'm in the central NJ area (Trenton/Lawrenceville) to be exact.

nhey
06-06-06, 06:04 PM
They didnt add UNHD for you guys in NJ? They still have that channel for us in MD.


No Universal HD as yet in central NJ

maxman
06-06-06, 06:09 PM
Also, TNT-HD is 204...

Strange place to put it isn't it?


Just got a message today indicating CMT (country music television) is being added on June 15 (not an HD channel). In the last month, they've added TNT-HD, current Tv, and will be adding CMT. Clearly, they have more bandwidth available. I'm sure they'll be adding ESPN2-HD shortly. This has not been the case the last year or so.
I'm in the central NJ area (Trenton/Lawrenceville) to be exact.

We've always had CMT (SD, channel 70) here in S. Jersey).

maxman
06-06-06, 06:11 PM
No Universal HD as yet in central NJ

Nor in S. Jersey.

maxman
06-06-06, 11:01 PM
Interesting site I just found: http://buyinghdtv.blogspot.com/

Seems to keep up w/Comcast items.

Samuelson
06-07-06, 04:18 PM
I never spoke to Lori. I got a call from her apparently, and when I called back her secretary said she wasn't in.

I asked them questions, and they said they'd write down my suggestion and pass it along.

You should call. I listed the number above.

theguest
06-07-06, 04:25 PM
Thanks for speaking for the ENTIRE HD market. :rolleyes: I will be pissed if they decide to yank inHD2 for ESPN2, it means I lose my RSNs HD games (I couldn't care less about the world cup).

Unless your sports team plays from 11 am - 4 pm (central), it shouldn't be an issue for you

Addicted2HD4Now
06-07-06, 05:02 PM
Unless your sports team plays from 11 am - 4 pm (central), it shouldn't be an issue for you

Also if they put ESPN2HD on INHD2 then the RSN would most likely bump programming on INHD. That's what Comcast said they would do in CT when they put UHD on INHD2 during the Olympics. Then areas in CT with the bandwidth got UHD on it's own channel, those without enough bandwidth haven't seen it since.

gtree10
06-07-06, 05:44 PM
Unless your sports team plays from 11 am - 4 pm (central), it shouldn't be an issue for you

Also if they put ESPN2HD on INHD2 then the RSN would most likely bump programming on INHD. That's what Comcast said they would do in CT when they put UHD on INHD2 during the Olympics. Then areas in CT with the bandwidth got UHD on it's own channel, those without enough bandwidth haven't seen it since.

Not true, when UHD was added to the SF market for the Olympics, the Warriors FSN-HD games did not preempt UHD programming nor were games switched to be shown on inHD. That would be true in the Sacramento market for the Giants and As games. Don't get me wrong, I want ESPN2-HD as well but not at the expense of my local sports, which is my biggest reason to stay with Comcast.

Vinny Aquilino
06-07-06, 07:02 PM
Comcast just e-mailed me and said tnt hd,channel 204 will be added on June 28 in Middlesex County.I live in Monroe Nj.08831

Samuelson
06-07-06, 08:30 PM
I wrote president Steve Burke yesterday, and he emailed me back with a positive word. Success!

Sam,

Good news: I think we will be adding ESPN2 HD very soon and in time for the World Cup. Disney has been very accommodating and we should be ready very soon. Thanks for your email and interest in Comcast and HD in particular.

I hope that they'll get it done in time for the first games.

lah5135
06-07-06, 08:46 PM
Could you post the email?

maxman
06-07-06, 09:21 PM
Could you post the email?

I think he just did. So when is the World Cup?

kevin j
06-07-06, 09:24 PM
Friday at 11:55am et is the 1st game.

shades
06-07-06, 10:07 PM
Could you post the email?

you live in jersey like i do, email or not you should know we will be lucky to get ESPN2 by teh next world cup :rolleyes:

SonyHD
06-07-06, 10:37 PM
Tried sending my email to the audit committee, but says the address is wrong. Is it comcast.com instead of just comcast?

nightowl
06-07-06, 10:44 PM
Tried sending my email to the audit committee, but says the address is wrong. Is it comcast.com instead of just comcast?

It's cable.comcast.com

SonyHD
06-07-06, 10:59 PM
Just tried writing to Lori, but the address that was provided I don't believe is correct, since I got a return email twice.

Samuelson
06-07-06, 11:58 PM
.

Marcus Carr
06-08-06, 01:08 AM
I wrote president Steve Burke yesterday, and he emailed me back with a positive word. Success!



I hope that they'll get it done in time for the first games.

Sounds good. Probably doesn't hurt that he used to be the president of ABC.

JWhip
06-08-06, 10:08 AM
I have it on very good authority that ESPN2HD will be up on Comcast systems with available bandwidth pre-world cup.

nywst
06-08-06, 11:10 AM
I have it on very good authority that ESPN2HD will be up on Comcast systems with available bandwidth pre-world cup.


exclude south/central NJ of course.

keenan
06-08-06, 11:11 AM
Probably not on systems that don't have TNT-HD yet either like the SF bay area.

blitzen102
06-08-06, 11:13 AM
exclude south/central NJ of course.

If they don't have available bandwidth.

of course

:rolleyes:

Beaker1024
06-08-06, 11:17 AM
I have it on very good authority that ESPN2HD will be up on Comcast systems with available bandwidth pre-world cup.

BTW let me first say a big Thanks to JWhip for posting this information. We all have certianly been waiting for some positive news on any HD channel and JWhip's and KenH's posts like this are like finding GOLD. :)

My only concern is that I just don't know if the system I'm in has the room or not. I know it's not a major have everything with alot of room system and the Comcast techs usually call it the backwater region (no TNT-HD) of Comcast, CT.

So it's just a waiting game and wondering if they moved enough channels around to have the room. :)

Eitherway it's great to know that there is a green light for ESPN2HD.

PS It'll be nice to see NHRA in HD but the Fall '06 College football is the major want for me! :)

blitzen102
06-08-06, 11:22 AM
BTW let me first say a big Thanks to JWhip for posting this information. We all have certianly been waiting for some positive news on any HD channel and JWhip's and KenH's posts like this are like finding GOLD. :)

My only concern is that I just don't know if the system I'm in has the room or not. I know it's not a major have everything with alot of room system and the Comcast techs usually call it the backwater region (no TNT-HD) of Comcast, CT.

So it's just a waiting game and wondering if they moved enough channels around to have the room. :)

Eitherway it's great to know that there is a green light for ESPN2HD.

PS It'll be nice to see NHRA in HD but the Fall '06 College football is the major want for me! :)

If you have INHD, INHD2, TNT-HD and Video on Demand then you probably have room.

Doolittle
06-08-06, 11:31 AM
exclude south/central NJ of course.
I would certainly be shocked if we got it.

nywst
06-08-06, 11:34 AM
I would certainly be shocked if we got it.

Now I wann find out, is HD-Lite from D* really that bad?

balazer
06-08-06, 11:39 AM
Unless these Comcast e-mail addresses are public, they probably shouldn't be posted here for the spammers to see. If any of these addcesses actually give us a voice into Comcast, we ought not to spoil them.

maxman
06-08-06, 11:45 AM
Now I wann find out, is HD-Lite from D* really that bad?

What's the name "Lite" tell you?

fender4645
06-08-06, 12:09 PM
Unless these Comcast e-mail addresses are public, they probably shouldn't be posted here for the spammers to see. If any of these addcesses actually give us a voice into Comcast, we ought not to spoil them.

I agree. While we should continue to put the pressure on Comcast, having 500 people email Mr. Burke at once is only going make him change his email address.

sf49ersnfl
06-08-06, 01:23 PM
If its true that ESPN 2 will be on before the start of the world cup, they better hurry because it starts at midnight edt.

kblee
06-08-06, 01:27 PM
If its true that ESPN 2 will be on before the start of the world cup, they better hurry because it starts at midnight est.

Check the schedule again. First game broadcast is 11:55 AM tomorrow morning.

Samuelson
06-08-06, 01:27 PM
I agree. While we should continue to put the pressure on Comcast, having 500 people email Mr. Burke at once is only going make him change his email address.

these are publicly available email addresses on their website. Was it not prudent for me to trust the users on this forum?

who_the
06-08-06, 01:34 PM
Probably not on systems that don't have TNT-HD yet either like the SF bay area. Comcast in San Francisco is currently showing ESPNHD on 725/HDSE, so it seems like something's up!

Marcus Carr
06-08-06, 01:35 PM
Check the schedule again. First game broadcast is 11:55 AM tomorrow morning.

HD Coverage begins at midnight with World Cup Live.

challigan
06-08-06, 01:36 PM
Steve Burke sent me a reply at 945am this morning


Very soon, ie before the World Cup




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Chris Halligan
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:45 AM
To: Burke, Steve
Subject: Am I going to have ESPN2 HD on Comcast before the World Cup starts?



Thanks, any insight as to when this is going to happen would be great.

Thanks

TravelFan1
06-08-06, 01:37 PM
Comcast in San Francisco is currently showing ESPNHD on 725/HDSE, so it seems like something's up!
ESPNHD or ESPN2HD on your HDSE channel?

kblee
06-08-06, 01:44 PM
HD Coverage begins at midnight with World Cup Live.

JWHIP's message referenced "pre-World Cup". The World Cup does not begin until the World Cup begins. Just like the Super Bowl, you can have as much pre-game fluff as you'd like, but Kickoff marks the beginning in both cases.

sf49ersnfl
06-08-06, 01:46 PM
We shall just have to wait and hope then.

Marcus Carr
06-08-06, 01:53 PM
JWHIP's message referenced "pre-World Cup". The World Cup does not begin until the World Cup begins. Just like the Super Bowl, you can have as much pre-game fluff as you'd like, but Kickoff marks the beginning in both cases.

Read the ESPN2 HD thread. The channel will begin showing up today, before the pregame show. JWhip's message can be interpreted to mean before World Cup coverage, which includes any pre-game shows.

lmsyl
06-08-06, 01:56 PM
In SF Bay Area, both 723 and 725 are showing ESPN HD now. I bet they will use 725 for ESPN2 HD tonight.

kblee
06-08-06, 02:01 PM
Read the ESPN2 HD thread. The channel will begin showing up today, before the pregame show. JWhip's message can be interpreted to mean before World Cup coverage, which includes any pre-game shows.

I have been following both threads closely for quite awhile. Thank you...

All that was meant by the original comment was to give Comcast a break. If I miss the World Cup Live fluff but have ESPN2HD by the time the first game starts, then I'll be more than satisfied. If that's not enough for you, then to each his own.

JimsArcade
06-08-06, 02:07 PM
I'm going to take the stance "I'll believe it when I see it."

That being said, I'm still excited at this prospect. I was getting increasingly annoyed at the prospect of missing nearly 2/3 of the HD coverage of the group stages.

sf49ersnfl
06-08-06, 02:10 PM
I'm going to take the stance "I'll believe it when I see it."

That being said, I'm still excited at this prospect. I was getting increasingly annoyed at the prospect of missing nearly 2/3 of the HD coverage of the group stages.

Im also taking that stance. I just dont trust comcast one bit.

VGPats
06-08-06, 02:10 PM
The anticipation is too much to endure. Can't wait. I keep scrolling through the HD channels hoping it's there. I need to get a life. Hopefully by tonight in the Boston market.

kevin j
06-08-06, 02:12 PM
I've got my fingers crossed also here in the Chicago area.

wasting
06-08-06, 02:17 PM
Im not getting my hopes up here in South Jersey.. :(

Marcus Carr
06-08-06, 02:23 PM
I have been following both threads closely for quite awhile. Thank you...

All that was meant by the original comment was to give Comcast a break. If I miss the World Cup Live fluff but have ESPN2HD by the time the first game starts, then I'll be more than satisfied. If that's not enough for you, then to each his own.

I'm glad you're not in charge of adding channels at Comcast in my area.

By adding it today they can be sure to deal with any potential problems instead of adding it just before the first game starts (like when I first got FOX HD a couple of days before the Super Bowl).

Give Comcast a break? Please. :rolleyes:

hdtvjunkie247
06-08-06, 02:23 PM
Im not getting my hopes up here in South Jersey.. :(

Yeah I doubt we'll see it, yet alone on a separate channel. TNT-HD hasn't even been launched across all Comcast systems in the state yet. North and Central NJ systems are still w/o it.

balazer
06-08-06, 02:31 PM
If its true that ESPN 2 will be on before the start of the world cup, they better hurry because it starts at midnight est.EDT, not EST.

sf49ersnfl
06-08-06, 02:32 PM
typo already corrected thank you

wasting
06-08-06, 02:39 PM
Yeah I doubt we'll see it, yet alone on a separate channel. TNT-HD hasn't even been launched across all Comcast systems in the state yet. North and Central NJ systems are still w/o it.

It just showed up for me channel 203!

keenan
06-08-06, 02:47 PM
Comcast in San Francisco is currently showing ESPNHD on 725/HDSE, so it seems like something's up!
Sigh...yet another channel 550mHz systems won't get....

wasting
06-08-06, 02:48 PM
It just showed up for me channel 203!

and now its gone!

nikeykid
06-08-06, 02:49 PM
and now its gone!

LOL!

sorry i shouldn't laugh, bay area may never get tntHD. but that is just hilarious.

hdtvjunkie247
06-08-06, 02:50 PM
and now its gone!

That's very weird. Did you actually get a chance to watch it for a few minutes or was it not authorized?

wasting
06-08-06, 02:54 PM
Yes Indy racing was on

VGPats
06-08-06, 03:14 PM
No change in Boston, still eagerly awaiting ESPN2HD on ch. 850, perhaps??

cane99
06-08-06, 03:21 PM
No change here in Dallas. I doubt we will see it, we are becoming Time Warner supposedly by April.

shades
06-08-06, 04:16 PM
It just showed up for me channel 203!


why would they put it on then take it off :confused:

ak3883
06-08-06, 04:26 PM
I'm sure they are still getting final configurations set up or something, they won't send msgs to the cable boxes/postcards to our mailboxes for a week or two, to the casual HD user they will just be flipping through, but to us here on AVS and World Cup fans, we are on top of it.

Don't loose hope, if it showed up that means you really are gonna get it, probably later on tonight.

shades
06-08-06, 04:35 PM
Don't loose hope, if it showed up that means you really are gonna get it, probably later on tonight.

comcast+jersey=lost hope

hdtvjunkie247
06-08-06, 04:41 PM
comcast+jersey=lost hope

Yeah but you guys down in South Jersey do have TNT-HD. :p Those of us in Nothern and Central NJ have to wait until June 28. I wouldn't be surprised if you get ESPN2-HD before us as well.

shades
06-08-06, 04:43 PM
I wanted TNT for basketball season , i think the total amount of HD basketball i got to see wa Barkley's big fat head for a minute on the post game show

wasting
06-08-06, 05:10 PM
Just got off the phone with a rep, he said he cant confirm it will be a permanent channel but it will be back on tonight for the world cup.

Ken H
06-08-06, 06:40 PM
Now that ESPN2 HD on Comcast is official, please take related discusion to this topic:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=686272

Marcus Carr
06-08-06, 06:59 PM
Current lineup, as of today:

210 ABC
211 NBC
212 CBS
213 FOX
214 WB
220 PBS
225 Discovery
226 INHD
227 INHD2
249 TNT
250 Universal
251 Comcast SportsNet
252 ESPN
253 ESPN2

Looks like NFL Network HD is next for me on July 1.

lah5135
06-08-06, 07:38 PM
202 ESPNHD
205 DiscoveryHD
206 INHD1
207 INHD2
231 ABCHD
232 CBSHD
233 NBCHD
234 FOXHD
235 WBHD
240 PBSHD


When will be get TNT HD and others?

fender4645
06-08-06, 07:53 PM
202 ESPNHD
205 DiscoveryHD
206 INHD1
207 INHD2
231 ABCHD
232 CBSHD
233 NBCHD
234 FOXHD
235 WBHD
240 PBSHD


When will be get TNT HD and others?


That's an interesting channel lineup in regards to channel numbers. Do the SD versions of the network channels correspond to the HD channel? For example here in the Bay Area FOX, NBC, and CBS are channels 2, 3, and 5 respectively. The HD versions of these channels are 702, 703, and 705. Just curious.

lah5135
06-08-06, 08:00 PM
NO, CBs is 2, NBC 4, FOX 5, WB 11 on the analog side. ESPN analog is channel 3 where the HD verison is 202.

TurboDan
06-08-06, 08:09 PM
Comcast's NJ systems are extremely weird. Time Warner NYC has all of the locals in the 700s range that correspond to their usual numbers, ie. 702, 704, 705, 707, etc.

No TNT or U-HD in Monmouth/Ocean either.

TurboDan
06-08-06, 08:11 PM
When will be get TNT HD and others?

I believe TNT-HD has been confirmed for June 28th for all Comcast NJ systems that don't have it already. No word on U-HD.

Samuelson
06-08-06, 08:14 PM
That's an interesting channel lineup in regards to channel numbers. Do the SD versions of the network channels correspond to the HD channel? For example here in the Bay Area FOX, NBC, and CBS are channels 2, 3, and 5 respectively. The HD versions of these channels are 702, 703, and 705. Just curious.

Same here in Portland. Maybe it's a west coast thing.

raidbuck
06-08-06, 08:56 PM
ESPN2HD just showed up in Harford County MD.

Great!

Rich N.

nywst
06-08-06, 09:06 PM
I believe TNT-HD has been confirmed for June 28th for all Comcast NJ systems that don't have it already. No word on U-HD.

Same as ESPN2 HD, I just called Comcast.

ak3883
06-08-06, 09:15 PM
Same here in Portland. Maybe it's a west coast thing.

A lot of systems on the East(and some elsewhere in the US) have this lineup for HD:

200 Comcast Sportsnet Philly/DC/etc(might vary)
202 ESPNHD
203 ESPN2HD <-tomorrow!
204 TNTHD
205 Disc HD
206 INHD
207 INHD2
215 HBOHD
219 MAXHD
223 SHOWTIME HD
227 STARZ HD
231 ABC-D (Ch. 6 analog)
232 NBC-D (Ch 11 analog)
233 CBS-D (Ch 3 analog)
234 FOX-D (Ch 29 analog)
235 WB-D (Ch 17 analog)
236 UPN-D (Ch 57 analog)
240 PBS-D (Ch 12 analog)

18 counting the premiums, but only 6 nat'l channels. Quite respectable, but not industry leading like Comcast thinks. Last week there were rumblings of "a few" new HD channels coming to comcast. Hopefully will include some of the ones we don't have: U-HD, MTV, NGC, Hdnet, etc.

TravelFan1
06-08-06, 09:28 PM
nywst , do you mean ESPN2HD in NJ will be available only on June 28th in NJ systems? Just in time for the Fifa World Cup... That's right, the 2010 World Cup!

bubba5
06-08-06, 09:36 PM
This sucks, NW New Jersey still no ESPN2 or TNTHD. We don't even get the 700's where all the channels are for NHL/NBA/MLB season passes.

Comcast get out of New Jersey already you suck!!!!!!!

maxman
06-08-06, 09:44 PM
Just came home and my box has defaulted to the Comcast channel (channel 8, not my regular default channel), so I know they sent something through. No ESPN2 though. (S. Jersey)

shades
06-09-06, 02:18 AM
"ESPN2 HD - Channel 203 Coming Soon" according to the HDTV asection on the south jersey page.

Agnt86
06-09-06, 02:40 AM
ESPN2HD just showed up on the CT Plainville system on channel 203.

auburn34
06-09-06, 07:10 AM
We now have ESPNHD in Alpharetta (Atlanta) GA. Hope it is permanent.

NortheasternPJ
06-09-06, 07:17 AM
Now that most have ESPN 2 HD, is NFL Network next?

JWhip
06-09-06, 07:39 AM
My guess is that the next channel will be National Geographic HD.

the49ola
06-09-06, 07:39 AM
If you have or had HDSE, it should be your NFLTVHD. Around the first of the year, the call letters on my tv w/cablecard went from HDSE to NFLTV, this is channel 208. So we shall see when pre-season starts next month, or hopefully for the Hall of Fame inductions. But, I'm posititve those games will be in HD on 208, just like the NFL GOW were.