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Carl Jones
06-09-06, 08:27 AM
My guess is that the next channel will be National Geographic HD.

That's kind of a shock. I thought UHD & MTV HD were to be next.

nywst
06-09-06, 08:37 AM
nywst , do you mean ESPN2HD in NJ will be available only on June 28th in NJ systems? Just in time for the Fifa World Cup... That's right, the 2010 World Cup!

Right. That's what I was told. I am wondering what I can watch from ESPN2 HD AFTER 06/28. :D

Marcus Carr
06-09-06, 08:58 AM
That's kind of a shock. I thought UHD & MTV HD were to be next.

UHD has been added in many areas, like mine. I was expecting MHD to be next since it was mentioned a while ago as one of the next channels, along with ESPN2 and UHD. If National Geographic HD is next, it will be one of the fastest additions ever for Comcast.

Marcus Carr
06-09-06, 09:00 AM
Now that most have ESPN 2 HD, is NFL Network next?

Looks like it's next for me, unless National Geographic shows up in June.

BobColby
06-09-06, 12:23 PM
My guess is that the next channel will be National Geographic HD.

Can you (or Ken H) verify that there are serious negotiations that are progressing here for this, or MHD, or anything else? The only speculation I read that seemed solid was ESPN2, and now that deal has been made.

The local Boston insider says there's more coming, but can't say more.

JWhip
06-09-06, 12:32 PM
Just a guess guys. More HD is coming but I do not have a time table. Certainly by the end of the summer. I know what people have been asking for and it ain't MTV. I have heard whispers about National Geographic but just whispers. It seems to have good content. Maybe UHD first? I do know that Comcast does look at content in addition to demand as well as $$ considerations in deciding what to add.

d2s2
06-09-06, 12:38 PM
Comcast in Olathe, KS added ESPN2HD as of 06/08/2006 on channel 203. And, it is a permanent addition!

westa6969
06-09-06, 12:41 PM
I've been following this thread for 1 year of the nearly two it's been running and our COmcast has added one whole HD Channel - TNT _ Wow isn't that exciting.

We had a teaser with Universal for the Winter Olympics temporarily but whoopie an entire friggin year later and you get one channel full of primarily of rerun crap (though their sports broadcasts are good). Damn give us something like the Comedy Central or HGTV so those of us can avoid watching them in SD.

Perhaps when I get home I'll also have ESPN2HD WoW - A repeat of rehashing what ESPNHD1 is presenting a thousand times a day. ESPN Sportscenter does look pretty awesome but do we have to view more repeat sports daily when it's on another hundred channels?

I like much of INHD but hell some of the movies they show they must have bought for a buck - why waste HD on that old Elvis Cowboy movie, can't recall the name but it was easily the worst movie he ever made next to Clambake. Twilight Zone is cool but hell you wind up seeing the same show a week later as it must have had a limited run.

Can't Comcast buy a piece of Voom and sell it to us as an add-on pkg? Damn don't they have any innovative minds or don't they read how many HD sets are being sold? Could somebody put an HD Channel that is not full of thousands of reruns that repeat incessantly? How many people are going to buy into SD On-Demand when they've viewed HD? ZERO!!! :mad:

scanpa
06-09-06, 12:46 PM
Central PA Comcast plans the following HD additions by end of year:

UHD
Food HD
Travel HD
NGHD
HGTVHD

Several Cable Networks are moving from SD to HD, like TBS, Lifetime, FX. to name a few.... by end of year / start of next year....

westa6969
06-09-06, 12:56 PM
Central PA Comcast plans the following HD additions by end of year:

UHD
Food HD
Travel HD
NGHD
HGTVHD

Several Cable Networks are moving from SD to HD, like TBS, Lifetime, FX. to name a few.... by end of year / start of next year....
Now that looks like progress! Hopefully they find there way to our COmcast region. Thanks!

Marcus Carr
06-09-06, 01:14 PM
Central PA Comcast plans the following HD additions by end of year:

UHD
Food HD
Travel HD
NGHD
HGTVHD

Fantastic, if it happens. Although I also want MHD.

Of course, FIOS will have these, too.

JWhip
06-09-06, 02:31 PM
Keep an eye out for the removal of analog channels to the digital tier only. That is done, in part, to free up bandwidth to add HD channels. Two HD channels per one analog channel space for now.

keenan
06-09-06, 03:07 PM
Keep an eye out for the removal of analog channels to the digital tier only. That is done, in part, to free up bandwidth to add HD channels. Two HD channels per one analog channel space for now.
That's what has to happen in 550 systems as there is no room, or very little, to do ADS. I can see some resistance to moving the analog to digital though from Standard package subs, now they'll need a STB to get those channels, something many Basic and Standard package subs are not fond of.

Carl Jones
06-09-06, 03:40 PM
It'll be interesting to see what they pull from analog...and how much it's noticed!

Interesting to see Travel HD as a possibility. I can pick it up via my QAM but it is not a channel I pick up via CC or my DVR currently.

blitzen102
06-09-06, 03:51 PM
It'll be interesting to see what they pull from analog...and how much it's noticed!

Interesting to see Travel HD as a possibility. I can pick it up via my QAM but it is not a channel I pick up via CC or my DVR currently.

You are getting Travel HD currently using your QAM? For how long have you been getting it?

Carl Jones
06-09-06, 03:55 PM
Not Travel HD...just the Travel channel.

blitzen102
06-09-06, 03:55 PM
Not Travel HD...just the Travel channel.

Ah.

jovjeune
06-09-06, 04:05 PM
ESPN2HD showed up on Channel 203 in Naperville, Illinois either late last night or earlier this morning. Hopefully, this is permanent.

malhtiek
06-09-06, 05:47 PM
To my surprise, I turned on my Comcast box today and got ESPN2HD here in Bristol, CT (Home of ESPN). I really hope this isn't only for the World Cup and it stays for good.

renamed
06-09-06, 05:49 PM
It'll be interesting to see what they pull from analog...and how much it's noticed!

Interesting to see Travel HD as a possibility. I can pick it up via my QAM but it is not a channel I pick up via CC or my DVR currently.


I notice today that Comcast moved GSN from the Analog lineup to Digital lineup, just about the same time they put ESPN2-HD

lah5135
06-09-06, 07:21 PM
ESPN2-HD was on channel 203 in Northern NJ, but after the WORLD CUP game it is off!

Thanks Comcast, you are the best cable company in the world, with your high prices and lack of .....nevermind.

JWhip
06-09-06, 07:28 PM
lah5135, check out my last post in the sticky thread on ESPN2HD.

BobColby
06-09-06, 07:34 PM
Central PA Comcast plans the following HD additions by end of year:

UHD
Food HD
Travel HD
NGHD
HGTVHD

Several Cable Networks are moving from SD to HD, like TBS, Lifetime, FX. to name a few.... by end of year / start of next year....

Source?

Is "Travel HD" a planned HD version of The Travel Channel (which would make it a sister network of Discovery HD), or a different network I haven't heard of yet?

maxman
06-09-06, 07:37 PM
I like much of INHD but hell some of the movies they show they must have bought for a buck - why waste HD on that old Elvis Cowboy movie, can't recall the name but it was easily the worst movie he ever made next to Clambake...

Thanks for saying exactly what I've said, but unfortunately, many here seem to like having crap movies waste space on an otherwise decent full-time HD channel (one of only 3 by the way).

Ken H
06-09-06, 07:39 PM
For the last time, please take all posts about ESPN2 HD to the topic found here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=686272

maxman
06-09-06, 07:40 PM
Keep an eye out for the removal of analog channels to the digital tier only. That is done, in part, to free up bandwidth to add HD channels. Two HD channels per one analog channel space for now.

They no longer have a digital "tier" here (S. Jersey); it's all digital simulcast. The analog channels are history for those of us w/digital boxes.

JWhip
06-09-06, 08:04 PM
Maxman, they are taking them off analog so analog only cable subscribers with "cable ready" TV's will not be able to view those channels any longer. This is what I meant by a digital tier, i.e digital cable. This is one way to free up enough bandwidth to, in part, add more HD. Comcast''s master plan is by 2009 to move all but about 20 channels from analog to digital which will free up more than enough bandwidth for all new HD channels that come out. This will be done on a gradual basis as contracts allow.

maxman
06-09-06, 08:20 PM
Here's some Dish news for those who've threatened to switch:

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/news/2006/06/dish_network_ex.php

Ou8thisSN
06-09-06, 08:33 PM
adding ESPN 2 HD wont cause our bill to go up, will it?

BobColby
06-09-06, 08:48 PM
Maxman, they are taking them off analog so analog only cable subscribers with "cable ready" TV's will not be able to view those channels any longer. This is what I meant by a digital tier, i.e digital cable. This is one way to free up enough bandwidth to, in part, add more HD. Comcast''s master plan is by 2009 to move all but about 20 channels from analog to digital which will free up more than enough bandwidth for all new HD channels that come out. This will be done on a gradual basis as contracts allow.

The range they're talking about is 20-40 (from Multichannel News):
Asked if Comcast would ever get rid of the analog tier altogether or if in the future, the cable operator would always have some form of an analog tier, Roberts said that internally, company executives have debated that 20-40 analog channels would remain until at least 2011.

That sounds like a lot of room, but check out the graph near the top of this article from CED. (http://www.cedmagazine.com/article/CA6319823.html) Even while analog goes down over the next few years, net bandwidth demands will actually rise thanks to expansion in VOD, phone, Internet and commercial services. There's also some HD expansion factored in, but it'll be interesting to see if it's enough for cable to compete with what satellite and FIOS will have by the end of '07, or whether there will be a large and growing "channel gap".

Marcus Carr
06-09-06, 09:01 PM
Here's some Dish news for those who've threatened to switch:

http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/news/2006/06/dish_network_ex.php

"HGTV HD, which is exclusively broadcast by DISH Network,..."

This is not true. There are some smaller cable systems that have it, such as Buckey Cable.

maxman
06-09-06, 09:06 PM
Comcast''s master plan is by 2009 to move all but about 20 channels from analog to digital...

My understanding is that in 2009 ('10?) analog will be shut off altogether. What's the story w/the 20 channels you mentioned? Thanks for all the "heads-up" info, by the way!

JWhip
06-09-06, 09:10 PM
Bob, I know what Comcast is planning. In addition to reducing the analog tier, they will also build out to 1 GIG on their systems, at least some of them. While they are not moving as fast as I would like and they are giving this a lot of thought and are moving to meet the challenge that Directv will pose for them in 2007. I had read the articles you posted before but they really don't tell the whole story about what is going on behind the scenes. I wish they would not waste as much space as they do for VoIP which I have no interest in. Our cable was out for half the day a few days ago. If I had VoIP, I would hav ebeen out of business.

JWhip
06-09-06, 09:11 PM
Maxman, analog cable not analog OTA broadcasting.

maxman
06-09-06, 09:15 PM
Maxman, analog cable not analog OTA broadcasting.

:confused: I need some clarification, please... :confused:

ATSCguy
06-09-06, 10:48 PM
:confused: I need some clarification, please... :confused:

The Feb 2009 date for analog shutoff only applies to Over The Air broadcasters and doesn't apply to cable. What the cable companies are saying is that they will probably continue to supply certain channels in analog format (the 20 channels mentioned) to support those viewers who want to continue to use their current analog televisions until those TVs die.

maxman
06-09-06, 11:04 PM
Got it, ATSCguy. Thanks!

BobColby
06-09-06, 11:10 PM
Bob, I know what Comcast is planning. In addition to reducing the analog tier, they will also build out to 1 GIG on their systems, at least some of them.

That's good to hear. Going out to 1Gz would definitely help a system stay competetive.

sikoniko
06-09-06, 11:18 PM
in hopes to sound ungrateful:

espn2 does little for me. anyone know if they are working on contracts with hgtv and foodnextwork or NGEOHD? these three would be fantastic additions!

kenvt
06-10-06, 10:06 AM
in hopes to sound ungrateful:

espn2 does little for me. anyone know if they are working on contracts with hgtv and foodnextwork or NGEOHD? these three would be fantastic additions!

It's funny how different we all are. NONE of these channes including ESPNHD2 do much for me, I want HDNET and MHD.

-Ken

NetworkTV
06-10-06, 10:13 AM
It's funny how different we all are. NONE of these channes including ESPNHD2 do much for me, I want HDNET and MHD.

-Ken
Same here. If they get HDNET and HDNET Movies, I might just be willing to give having a 30 second skip forward on my DVR...

Though I have friends in the business who work at ESPN, I'm not personally a sports fan and really don't need either ESPN in HD (though the Sportscenturies they've done in HD look friggin' fabulous and are really entertaining for even someone who doesn't care about sports).

BobColby
06-10-06, 10:53 AM
It's funny how different we all are. NONE of these channes including ESPNHD2 do much for me, I want HDNET and MHD.

-Ken

I'm interested in NGC and MHD, and FOOD (sorta).

Also the new one supposed to be coming from Fox, since I assume they would draw from the FX lineup (e.g. Rescue Me).

I'd love HDNET, but it seems that Comcast and Cuban reached a deadlock awhile back, so until someone is ready to compromise...

JDLIVE
06-10-06, 10:59 AM
in hopes to sound ungrateful:

espn2 does little for me. anyone know if they are working on contracts with hgtv and foodnextwork or NGEOHD? these three would be fantastic additions!

Check out post #1259.

Kracko
06-10-06, 11:37 AM
It's funny how different we all are. NONE of these channes including ESPNHD2 do much for me, I want HDNET and MHD.

-Ken

Which is why Dish's HD offerings are looking better all the time. They offer a much better HD selection.

QZ1
06-10-06, 01:30 PM
Maxman, they are taking them off analog so analog only cable subscribers with "cable ready" TV's will not be able to view those channels any longer. This is what I meant by a digital tier, i.e digital cable. This is one way to free up enough bandwidth to, in part, add more HD. Comcast''s master plan is by 2009 to move all but about 20 channels from analog to digital which will free up more than enough bandwidth for all new HD channels that come out. This will be done on a gradual basis as contracts allow.
JWhip, in regards to service tiers, are these channels going to become Digital-only Standard (Enhanced, as they call it) or will they move to a Digital Classic or Plus, or possibly it will depend on the channels?
How many are imminently leaving Analog, and what will be their 'tier' status?

I am trying to get a gauge on how they are going to handle this gradual change. Even if they leave them all as Standard, people will not like having to get a box to view the same channels, otherwise have less channels, that is a given.

But, almost every person, depending on channels lost, eventually, will decide to get on board. But for those that don't, I don't think they can maintain the same price for a Digital Standard tier vs. an Analog Standard tier, because of the eventual disparity of channels.

BTW, maybe we should say 'Moving channels to the Digital Domain' for channels leaving Analog, since some areas are ADS. :)

JWhip
06-10-06, 02:02 PM
Don't know QZ1. My guess is that they will be moved to the basic digital tier, which I guess is enhanced so that they can claim maximum eyeballs. Where they go will be or is a matter for contractual negotiations.

Renagade
06-10-06, 09:07 PM
It's funny how different we all are. NONE of these channes including ESPNHD2 do much for me, I want HDNET and MHD.

-Ken

I agree with you Ken...

SonyHD
06-10-06, 11:09 PM
We need the following: HDNet/HDNet Movies, VOOM HD Networks (15) and the NFL Network HD channel.

raidbuck
06-11-06, 11:24 AM
Right, HDNET/Movies would be nice, but I'm hoping for channels with realistic possibilities. Why Comcast is so against HDNET is a question I can't answer, but in spite of many of our requests, and Mr. Cuban's interest in reaching an agreement, nothing is apparently in the works.

Probably only Mr. Burke can answer why Comcast can't reach an agreement with HDNET.

Rich N.

chitchatjf
06-11-06, 04:55 PM
The main reason is Cuban wants a per subscriber charge.

Comcast does NOT want an HD only tier,and Cuban really has nothing else to offer Comcast.

babrown92
06-11-06, 05:57 PM
If I could get History Channel and Comedy Central in HD i'd be in heaven.

keenan
06-11-06, 06:11 PM
The main reason is Cuban wants a per subscriber charge.

Comcast does NOT want an HD only tier,and Cuban really has nothing else to offer Comcast.
Unless it's their partially owned INHDs.

QZ1
06-11-06, 06:18 PM
Don't know QZ1. My guess is that they will be moved to the basic digital tier, which I guess is enhanced so that they can claim maximum eyeballs. Where they go will be or is a matter for contractual negotiations.
That is what I thought, but it would disingenous of them to claim all Std. subs as viewers, when some won't have the STB to watch those channels, but I wouldn't be suprised if you are right. ;)

And, yes, you are right, they indeed have agreements where to put these channels, so they would have to remain 'Standard/Enhanced', unless given permission to change; I have to get used to that being the base Digital tier now. :)

I bet they start with the least popular channels first. Our area still has SHO/TMC and HBO (5 channels total) in the Analog domain; I don't know what the delay is on removing them. :confused:

NortheasternPJ
06-11-06, 08:57 PM
If I could get History Channel and Comedy Central in HD i'd be in heaven.

Why would you want History Channel in HD? The very nature of the channel means there will be almost no HD content at all. Unless you want to the interviews with the veterans in HD, I don't know how much is out there.

Dorn
06-11-06, 09:23 PM
Why would you want History Channel in HD? The very nature of the channel means there will be almost no HD content at all. Unless you want to the interviews with the veterans in HD, I don't know how much is out there.
Re-enactments and whatnot would be nice.

Rakesh.S
06-11-06, 10:08 PM
Unless it's their partially owned INHDs.

it's pretty disappointing..anyone with a decent set of eyes and ears can tell that the content on HDNet and HDN Movies smokes the garbage on InHD. InHD carries the occasional pro sports game, but it's nothing to get excited about.

With Time Warner taking over in Dallas, I hope we get HDNet.

chitchatjf
06-11-06, 10:41 PM
Unless it's their partially owned INHDs.

No its the $. some systems carry INHD AND HDNet but they have a seperate HD tier.

babrown92
06-11-06, 10:41 PM
Why would you want History Channel in HD? The very nature of the channel means there will be almost no HD content at all. Unless you want to the interviews with the veterans in HD, I don't know how much is out there.


Shows like Mail Call, Modern Marvels, Wild West Tech, etc.

eric.exe
06-11-06, 11:08 PM
If I could get History Channel and Comedy Central in HD i'd be in heaven.


Are there any plans for Comedy Central HD? I don't think so at this time.

enmoco
06-11-06, 11:09 PM
Why would you want History Channel in HD? The very nature of the channel means there will be almost no HD content at all. Unless you want to the interviews with the veterans in HD, I don't know how much is out there. :)

Marcus Carr
06-12-06, 01:50 AM
NFL Network HD is no longer listed in my channel lineup at Comcast.com for July 1.
But that doesn't necessarily mean it won't be added. ESPN2 HD had also been removed. (It's back now, but still says effective July 1).

PaulGo
06-12-06, 12:40 PM
On the back of the sports section of todays Washington Post is a Comcast ad about ESPN2 and they also show the HD cable channels - it shows on channel 250 Universal HD (but with an asterisk stating not available in all areas). So I guess it is official as soon a Comcast has the room they will be putting Universal HD back.

Beaker1024
06-12-06, 01:28 PM
So that would mean possibly having 2 new HD channels for Comcast (ESPN2 and Universal) but only for areas with room.... Areas with out room get no new channels and no idea when they'll be brought up to speed.

(Maybe we should as for a reduction in our bill due to the system not having enough bandwidth to cover what other areas get!)

keenan
06-12-06, 04:10 PM
So that would mean possibly having 2 new HD channels for Comcast (ESPN2 and Universal) but only for areas with room.... Areas with out room get no new channels and no idea when they'll be brought up to speed.

(Maybe we should as for a reduction in our bill due to the system not having enough bandwidth to cover what other areas get!)
But that would mean that Comcast would have to admit they are actually charging for HD, something they claim they don't do.

Marcus Carr
06-12-06, 04:42 PM
(Maybe we should as for a reduction in our bill due to the system not having enough bandwidth to cover what other areas get!)

Nah, that would be too much like a la carte. Let's not go there.

blitzen102
06-12-06, 05:46 PM
So that would mean possibly having 2 new HD channels for Comcast (ESPN2 and Universal) but only for areas with room.... Areas with out room get no new channels and no idea when they'll be brought up to speed.

(Maybe we should as for a reduction in our bill due to the system not having enough bandwidth to cover what other areas get!)

Dude, see the posts about removing some analogs to free up room for HD.

sangs
06-13-06, 06:56 AM
The next HD channel for our Comcast system (Union, NJ) will be TNT. There is a full-page ad in The Star-Ledger today touting the arrival of ESPN2HD now and, later this summer, TNTHD (channel 204). I'm just wondering if we really want TNT with all the complaints I've been reading from those that have it.

Beaker1024
06-13-06, 07:57 AM
Dude, see the posts about removing some analogs to free up room for HD.

I do understand what action they will take to free up some room. The concern is more about what time frame and how will we know what that time frame is.

Are areas without ESPN2HD due to "no space" going to free up room in the short term (1-3 months) or long term (3-24 months)? I'm not expecting an answer as I can imagine it has a lot of localized variables to it.

My original post was put up to give voice to a frustration that I know I feel as one in such a region. I do understand that normally people do not know what other Comcast regions have or don't have but that PR move from Comcast doesn't fly in this case as the ESPN2HD was declared in a national press release (yes with the "enough room" clause).

My point is more information (notificiation of what they are doing / timelines, estimates) for the customers within regions w/o room (no ESPN2HD) would be a common courtesy in this situation. I would expect this from a company that we all pay a hansom monthly fee to. (PS Though given Comcast's track record I do not anticipate they will provide this).

BMAG
06-13-06, 09:15 AM
The next HD channel for our Comcast system (Union, NJ) will be TNT. There is a full-page ad in The Star-Ledger today touting the arrival of ESPN2HD now and, later this summer, TNTHD (channel 204). I'm just wondering if we really want TNT with all the complaints I've been reading from those that have it.

Yes, we really want it.

QZ1
06-13-06, 05:50 PM
But that would mean that Comcast would have to admit they are actually charging for HD, something they claim they don't do.
Well, with Locals and Premiums they don't.
With 'cable network' HD, it depends.

For me, it is actually less expensive, as I take Digital Plus (Classic is sufficient) rather than Expanded service.
For many others, they will want Expd., or are required to have it in order to get Digital Classic HD channels, so it is more expensive.
Of course, if one had Digital Classic or Plus, already, then it is status quo.

As a side note, I wonder as they keep adding HD channels to Digital Classic, what will happen to the pricing, and also the pre-requisites, as some areas don't have any.

Ken H
06-13-06, 05:59 PM
Why would you want History Channel in HD? The very nature of the channel means there will be almost no HD content at all. Unless you want to the interviews with the veterans in HD, I don't know how much is out there.Please let me correct you.

Most of what is seen on the History Channel is on film. Film, which can have roughly equal (16mm) or much higher (35mm) than HDTV resolution, can be transferred to HDTV, and will look substantially better than existing NTSC sources.

Of course this assumes the film is still available and in good enough shape to be run through a projector. At that point, digital processing takes over.

enmoco
06-13-06, 06:16 PM
Please let me correct you.

Most of what is seen on the History Channel is on film. Film, which can have roughly equal (16mm) or much higher (35mm) than HDTV resolution, can be transferred to HDTV, and will look substantially better than existing NTSC sources.

Of course this assumes the film is still available and in good enough shape to be run through a projector. At that point, digital processing takes over.Well put!! Besides,they have some very interesting programs!

NortheasternPJ
06-13-06, 06:27 PM
Well put!! Besides,they have some very interesting programs!


I stand corrected. I usually only watch their documentaries and not their newer shows. I didn't realize how many newer shows they have. That being said, I definitely would now like HistoryHD

maxman
06-13-06, 06:30 PM
I'd like EVERYTHING HD!

bmoney017
06-13-06, 06:58 PM
Ok I have not been reading this thread very often, but I am just looking for a few quick answers regarding new channels. I am glad ESPN2 HD is finally here! Does anyone know what the status or if comcast will eventually carry these channels?

HDNet
HDNet Movies
UHD
MHD (MTV HD)
NGHD
HGTV HD
Travel/Food HD

I know the status of the HDNet channels, but I figured I would include them in my want list. If there has been any info of another channel that I missed, let me know. Thanks

EDIT: I just went back and read some older posts and saw one by scanpa regarding the addition of 4 or 5 of the channels I had listed, coming to PA by the end of the year. Will it only be in PA or will the new channels be similar to the addition of EPSN2 HD, where it was basically any system that could handle it?

maxman
06-13-06, 08:38 PM
Some Comcast mention at:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060605/tc_usatoday/cableoperatorsfindittoughtoswallowhdtv

babrown92
06-13-06, 10:37 PM
The travel channel is pretty high on my list for HD, would love to watch the World Poker Tour in HD.

Ken H
06-13-06, 10:44 PM
Well put!! Besides,they have some very interesting programs!Indeed.

chitchatjf
06-14-06, 01:08 AM
Well, with Locals and Premiums they don't.
With 'cable network' HD, it depends.

For me, it is actually less expensive, as I take Digital Plus (Classic is sufficient) rather than Expanded service.
For many others, they will want Expd., or are required to have it in order to get Digital Classic HD channels, so it is more expensive.
Of course, if one had Digital Classic or Plus, already, then it is status quo.

As a side note, I wonder as they keep adding HD channels to Digital Classic, what will happen to the pricing, and also the pre-requisites, as some areas don't have any.

In Boston,an area with many digital plus basic subscribers,ESPN2HD requires Enhanced basic (extended basic with a cable box)
Although i get ESPN1HD and TNT HD rigyt now I would not be surprised if they start requiring enchanced basic for thse channels as well as NESNHD full time,but still offer Discovery HDHT,Universal HD,and the INHD channels on just Digital Classic.

GutBomb
06-14-06, 09:08 AM
Some Comcast mention at:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20060605/tc_usatoday/cableoperatorsfindittoughtoswallowhdtv

By cutting analog service, operators force customers to buy digital service and a box to keep watching favorite shows they used to get on their cable-ready TVs. Because the customer now has to get a box anyway, they might consider switching to satellite or phone video that has more HD channels.

BS. Anyone that switches to satellite when the cable company takes away their ability to watch without a box is not an HDTV user so they are not likely to care that the satellite services have more HD.

davisdog
06-14-06, 10:49 AM
BS. Anyone that switches to satellite when the cable company takes away their ability to watch without a box is not an HDTV user so they are not likely to care that the satellite services have more HD.

Are you sure about your statement? Many people have 1 HD system and a couple analog...they stick with Cable because they get the Analog as a free bonus (in addition to their HD). If they lose that extra feature then they may switch to Sat because of a different advantage (such as more HD channels)

TravelFan1
06-14-06, 11:39 AM
Comcast placed an ad today on the Star Ledger. I will scan it and post it here tonight.

As far as HD goes, that will mean TNT-HD being added on channel 204.

As far as SD goes:

Great American Country- Digital Classic ch.147

Oxygen- Digital Plus ch.185

C-SPAN 2- Expanded Basic ch.187- Change applies to Comcast of Plainfield and Monmouth County only

Travel Channel- Digital Classic ch.188

TBN- Digital Classic ch.290

The Word- Digital Classic ch.294- Change applies to Comcast of Union and Plainfield

"Plus catch a Digital preview of these channels starting June 15"

CMT- Digital Classic ch.146 *

BET ON Jazz- Digital Classic ch,174- Change applies to Comcast of Plainfield only *

ESPN Classic- Digital Classic ch.265 *

* "On or after July 17,2006 these channels will be viewable only on their new Digital locations"

Being the TravelFan, you can image I am pretty happy with the adition of The Travel Channel, even it being in SD. Hopefully whenever Discorey Networks lauch the Travel Channel in HD, Comcast will ad it - can one imagine watching 10 best beaches in HD? That will rock!

enmoco
06-14-06, 12:21 PM
The travel channel is pretty high on my list for HD, would love to watch the World Poker Tour in HD.I woould like to watch EVERYTHING in HD!!!!!!!COOKING SHOWS,CNBC,ANYTHING !!!!

QZ1
06-14-06, 04:56 PM
In Boston,an area with many digital plus basic subscribers,ESPN2HD requires Enhanced basic (extended basic with a cable box)
Although i get ESPN1HD and TNT HD rigyt now I would not be surprised if they start requiring enchanced basic for thse channels as well as NESNHD full time,but still offer Discovery HDHT,Universal HD,and the INHD channels on just Digital Classic.
We just got ESPN2-HD, and it is on Digital Classic in our area.

In your area, that is lousy for you, needing Expd.
If I were you, I wouldn't get it for ESPN2.

What makes you think some of those channels, moreover those specific ones, might move to Expd. in your area?

So, far I watch very little Digital Classic HD, but, if they ever put HD channels I watch on Expd., I will strongly consider FIOS when it arrives here soon.

chitchatjf
06-14-06, 08:00 PM
We just got ESPN2-HD, and it is on Digital Classic in our area.

In your area, that is lousy for you, needing Expd.
If I were you, I wouldn't get it for ESPN2.

What makes you think some of those channels, moreover those specific ones, might move to Expd. in your area?

So, far I watch very little Digital Classic HD, but, if they ever put HD channels I watch on Expd., I will strongly consider FIOS when it arrives here soon.

There is some sense to it as I do not get the SD versions. The way I see it,one needs to get HBO in order to get HBO-HD. I don't get ESPN2 Why get ESPN2-HD?

OTOH in many areas Digital classic is available only with stadnard cable.

Marcus Carr
06-15-06, 08:34 AM
Looks like MHD is next:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=688505

BobColby
06-15-06, 11:53 AM
Also, NESN just got its own channel (851) in the Boston area - it had been sharing 882 with INHD2.

Jakes
06-15-06, 12:22 PM
Two new HD channels (ESPN2HD & MHD) added to Comcast in Boston in the same month... I like this pace.

roachxp
06-15-06, 12:25 PM
Yeah but INHD2 is going to be removed in Boston. INHD2 was due to be shutoff in July anyways on Comcast systems.

kenvt
06-15-06, 01:09 PM
Yeah but INHD2 is going to be removed in Boston. INHD2 was due to be shutoff in July anyways on Comcast systems.


If this is true that sucks. Several concerts like the Oasis show were only on INHD2.

Bummer.

-Ken

BobColby
06-15-06, 01:16 PM
I noticed when scheduling ahead in my DVR program guide that INHD/881 is about to become much less sports-focused (it was pretty much all sports for awhile there). Maybe that's in preparation for INHD2/882 being dropped, at least in some areas.

kenvt
06-15-06, 01:21 PM
I noticed when scheduling ahead in my DVR program guide that INHD/881 is about to become much less sports-focused (it was pretty much all sports for awhile there). Maybe that's in preparation for INHD2/882 being dropped, at least in some areas.

According to this press release from an hour ago, inhd2 is in the lineup:

"Comcast now offers 20 HD channels and services with the addition of NESN HD and ESPN2 HD, including CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, PBS, UPN, WB, ESPN HD, TNT HD, Universal HD, Discovery Theatre HD, HBO HD, Cinemax HD, Showtime HD, Starz HD, INHD, INHD2 and Fox Sports New England Celtics Games."

See the full press release at:

Comcast to add NESH-HD and ESPN2-HD for fathers day (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060615/neth018.html?.v=52)

JDLIVE
06-15-06, 01:37 PM
Funny that the release doesn't even mentioned MTVHD. :D

Addicted2HD4Now
06-15-06, 02:37 PM
According to this press release from an hour ago, inhd2 is in the lineup:

"Comcast now offers 20 HD channels and services with the addition of NESN HD and ESPN2 HD, including CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, PBS, UPN, WB, ESPN HD, TNT HD, Universal HD, Discovery Theatre HD, HBO HD, Cinemax HD, Showtime HD, Starz HD, INHD, INHD2 and Fox Sports New England Celtics Games."

See the full press release at:

Comcast to add NESH-HD and ESPN2-HD for fathers day (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060615/neth018.html?.v=52)

Bummer, I was hoping NESN HD would go full time in CT also since we currently alternate between Sox and Yankees in HD on INHD2. Oh well, maybe it's not too far off from happening for us also.

petelang
06-15-06, 03:10 PM
Comcast NH got NESN-HD and MHD today ESPN2 was the other day. INHD2 is still active and showing content.

BobColby
06-15-06, 03:15 PM
According to this press release from an hour ago, inhd2 is in the lineup:

"Comcast now offers 20 HD channels and services with the addition of NESN HD and ESPN2 HD, including CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX, PBS, UPN, WB, ESPN HD, TNT HD, Universal HD, Discovery Theatre HD, HBO HD, Cinemax HD, Showtime HD, Starz HD, INHD, INHD2 and Fox Sports New England Celtics Games."

See the full press release at:

Comcast to add NESH-HD and ESPN2-HD for fathers day (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060615/neth018.html?.v=52)

It's interesting (as JDLIVE noticed) that MHD is not listed here. If I had to guess, I'd say that release was written before the MHD deal was finalized (which could have been over the weekend), and they didn't think to update it (I know it doesn't relate to the sports theme of the release, but they could have updated the channel list). So just possibly this new bandwidth demand will change the status of INHD2 going forward. I hope not, since there's still some good stuff on there.

BobColby
06-15-06, 03:54 PM
Yeah but INHD2 is going to be removed in Boston. INHD2 was due to be shutoff in July anyways on Comcast systems.

Can you give us a source on this? And is your understanding that the channel will cease to exist, or just that Comcast won't carry it anymore?

roachxp
06-15-06, 04:18 PM
Can you give us a source on this? And is your understanding that the channel will cease to exist, or just that Comcast won't carry it anymore?

Over on the Programming thread, there are reports that INHD-2 is being replaced by "Mojo" effective 6/18.

This was taken from the Boston Comcast thread which is always the first system to get alot of the new HD channels due to having plenty of bandwith.

roachxp
06-15-06, 04:22 PM
Found the thread, it also has the press release about MOJO

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=688099&highlight=Mojo

BobColby
06-15-06, 05:06 PM
This was taken from the Boston Comcast thread which is always the first system to get alot of the new HD channels due to having plenty of bandwith.

The post you based your post on was in error (at least it doesn't reflect currently-known facts). MOJO is not a new channel, it is a block of programming (five new series) that will be running on INHD, as is clearly stated in the press release in the thread you just posted. Who knows, maybe they are testing the waters for a new channel, but they haven't come out and said so just yet.

I'm actually more interested in your source for the "shutoff in July, anyway" part. I've seen that before, but not with a pointer to hard facts backing it up. I note that the current INHD.com schedule only goes to 6/29, but I don't know how far ahead they go normally, so I don't know if that means anything.

UPDATE: Corrected the number of programs in the current MOJO block.

QZ1
06-15-06, 05:27 PM
There is some sense to it as I do not get the SD versions. The way I see it,one needs to get HBO in order to get HBO-HD. I don't get ESPN2 Why get ESPN2-HD?

OTOH in many areas Digital classic is available only with stadnard cable.
I wouldn't keep Digital Classic for Discovery, Universal, and INHD. I didn't see the correlation at first, but now I remember Disc-HD is not a simulcast of Disc-SD, and the others obviously have no SD equivilants. But, I don't know, I think they would have made them Expd. channels by, but maybe not.

The thing with Expd. is that here it's ~$16 more than my sub to Digital Plus (including STB), but worse yet, they require a Digital tier for the DVR, so to keep the DVR, I would have to keep Digital Plus, or go to Classic (minus $5), but add ~$32 for Expd.

I would opt to either go to FIOS or buy my own Tivo S3 Dual-tuner HD DVR, and rent an M-CableCard or two CCs, then I could get whatever tiers I want, in this scenario, just get Std, still more $, though.

Oh, and there is no reason to make Digital Classic subs get Expd., other than profit, of course. What you said about HD makes sense, and many people want Expd., but then have pay for Digital Classic for HD duplicates of SD, then they wouldn't have to, unless they want HD exclusives. It is people like us who would lose $. :(

earletp
06-15-06, 06:35 PM
I wouldn't keep Digital Classic for Discovery, Universal, and INHD. I didn't see the correlation at first, but now I remember Disc-HD is not a simulcast of Disc-SD, and the others obviously have no SD equivilants. But, I don't know, I think they would have made them Expd. channels by, but maybe not.

The thing with Expd. is that here it's ~$16 more than my sub to Digital Plus (including STB), but worse yet, they require a Digital tier for the DVR, so to keep the DVR, I would have to keep Digital Plus, or go to Classic (minus $5), but add ~$32 for Expd.

I would opt to either go to FIOS or buy my own Tivo S3 Dual-tuner HD DVR, and rent an M-CableCard or two CCs, then I could get whatever tiers I want, in this scenario, just get Std, still more $, though.

Oh, and there is no reason to make Digital Classic subs get Expd., other than profit, of course. What you said about HD makes sense, and many people want Expd., but then have pay for Digital Classic for HD duplicates of SD, then they wouldn't have to, unless they want HD exclusives. It is people like us who would lose $. :(


It would be nice if they used the same language to describe tiers and packages across the system.
Here Digital Classic is not an add on package but a tier that includes standard cable plus some additional digital channels and costs $57.11 and Digital Plus adds a handful more channels and costs $62.11. The least expensive digital "anything" is called Enhanced cable and is the same lineup as Standard cable but you get a digital box for $48.16

kenvt
06-15-06, 06:40 PM
The post you based your post on was in error (at least it doesn't reflect currently-known facts). MOJO is not a new channel, it is a block of programming (five new series) that will be running on INHD, as is clearly stated in the press release in the thread you just posted. Who knows, maybe they are testing the waters for a new channel, but they haven't come out and said so just yet.

I'm actually more interested in your source for the "shutoff in July, anyway" part. I've seen that before, but not with a pointer to hard facts backing it up. I note that the current INHD.com schedule only goes to 6/29, but I don't know how far ahead they go normally, so I don't know if that means anything.

UPDATE: Corrected the number of programs in the current MOJO block.


Bob,

As I noted in the Boston Thread, mojohd.com redirects you to a mojo branded inhd listing, so perhaps inhd2 is being re-branded as MOJO.

-Ken

GoIrish
06-15-06, 06:47 PM
Bob,

As I noted in the Boston Thread, mojohd.com redirects you to a mojo branded inhd listing, so perhaps inhd2 is being re-branded as MOJO.

-Ken

No, INHD2 is not being rebranded as Mojo.

GoIrish

NortheasternPJ
06-15-06, 06:53 PM
Oh, and there is no reason to make Digital Classic subs get Expd., other than profit, of course

Exactly. Comcast pays Discovery, NESN, TNT, ESPN2 all out of the revenues from Expanded Basic customers. There's no reason in any business model why you would get their equivalents included in the digital classic tier. You are not paying for those channels with that package. All businesses are seeking to maximize profits, Comcast should be no different.

According to the Comcast Website, you pay for with digital classic (minus the expanded basic channels if you don't subscribe to that tier):

Comcast's Digital Classic package includes all of the following:
* Digital Classic Channels
* Digital Music Channels
* Limited Basic Channels
* Expanded Basic Channels
* Interactive Onscreen Program Guide
* Access to ON DEMAND movies and free programming!

Bonus Information: If you have an HDTV-Ready or HDTV-Capable television set, Comcast can offer you up to 10 channels in High Definition Format.
* Up to 1080i resolution and Dolby 5.1 surround sound.
* HDTV channels include ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, ESPN HD, INHD, INHD2, Showtime, HBO and Starz!

BobColby
06-15-06, 07:36 PM
Bob,

As I noted in the Boston Thread, mojohd.com redirects you to a mojo branded inhd listing, so perhaps inhd2 is being re-branded as MOJO.

-Ken

I've seen that page, and I don't read it that way. I think they're just trying to give a distinct brand identity to that group of five series.

If you look at the INHD2 schedule up until 6/29 (as far as it goes), you can see that there is no MOJO-related programming, it's all on the main INHD channel. Not surpring, since the phrase "MOJO on INHD" appears several times on that page.

I think it is possible that this is a trial balloon for a new channel in the future, but they have not come out and said that yet.

kenvt
06-15-06, 08:13 PM
I've seen that page, and I don't read it that way. I think they're just trying to give a distinct brand identity to that group of five series.

If you look at the INHD2 schedule up until 6/29 (as far as it goes), you can see that there is no MOJO-related programming, it's all on the main INHD channel. Not surpring, since the phrase "MOJO on INHD" appears several times on that page.

I think it is possible that this is a trial balloon for a new channel in the future, but they have not come out and said that yet.

You are correct, and INHD2 is not going away. Press release from Broadcast & Cable Magazine:

Reports the trade magazine Broadcast & Cable:

"In Demand Networks is launching a primetime block of original series for the young, upscale, male audience it targets with its INHD high-definition network. The block, “MOJO”, is slated to launch June 18 on INHD and run Sundays and Wednesdays from 9 p.m. to midnight.

The company is developing nine lifestyle series for the block, and aims to have six ready for MOJO’s launch. They include Three Sheets, a comedic travel series on local drinking customs; Decades, a 90-minute concert series; Technical Difficulties, a scavenger hunt reality series involving hot gadgets; and Wall Street Warriors, a documentary series about hotshot finance execs.

In Demand’s INHD reaches some 4 million homes with digital cable and high-definition TVs. The sports, movies and music displaced by the new MOJO programming will likely run on companion network INHD2."


article about naming Mojo (http://www.igorinternational.com/clients/mojo-HD-TV-television-channel-name.php)

BobColby
06-16-06, 12:34 AM
You are correct, and INHD2 is not going away. Press release from Broadcast & Cable Magazine:

Reports the trade magazine Broadcast & Cable:

"In Demand Networks is launching a primetime block of original series for the young, upscale, male audience it targets with its INHD high-definition network. The block, “MOJO”, is slated to launch June 18 on INHD and run Sundays and Wednesdays from 9 p.m. to midnight.

The company is developing nine lifestyle series for the block, and aims to have six ready for MOJO’s launch. They include Three Sheets, a comedic travel series on local drinking customs; Decades, a 90-minute concert series; Technical Difficulties, a scavenger hunt reality series involving hot gadgets; and Wall Street Warriors, a documentary series about hotshot finance execs.

In Demand’s INHD reaches some 4 million homes with digital cable and high-definition TVs. The sports, movies and music displaced by the new MOJO programming will likely run on companion network INHD2."


article about naming Mojo (http://www.igorinternational.com/clients/mojo-HD-TV-television-channel-name.php)

Good to know, interesting link!

balazer
06-16-06, 01:04 AM
That's just a news story, not a press release. They might be wrong to say that programming will be moved to InHD2. I've read that programming that previously appeared on InHD2 has been scheduled on InHD for upcoming weeks. My guess is that the rumor of InHD2's demise is true.

wareagle
06-16-06, 01:54 AM
My guess is that the rumor of InHD2's demise is true.

It certainly is dead and buried in Seattle.

Marcus Carr
06-16-06, 02:40 AM
The MOJO programs are on INHD on Sunday according to my onscreen guide.

chitchatjf
06-16-06, 08:49 AM
INHD2 is VERY MUCH ALIVE with Comcast Boston.

kenvt
06-16-06, 12:06 PM
INHD2 is VERY MUCH ALIVE with Comcast Boston.


Here is a thought.... There are rumors that INHD2 is dead July first. Makes sense to transition the Red Sox to their own channel several weeks ahead of time before INHD2 goes away. Here in the Boston area, the program guide for INHD2 is blank, and they are encouraging subscribers to watch the sox on 851.

And if INHD2 is going away July 1, what will replace it ? National Geo HD ??

UPDATE: The guide is back for INHD2, and it does not include the sox info.

MHD is now dolby digital here in Chelmsford as well.

-Ken

hondo21
06-16-06, 12:26 PM
INHD2 is still alive in the Pittsburgh area (Greensburg system) on 227. We also have UHD (215), TNT-HD (249), ESPN2HD (253).

I'm hoping for FoodHD sooner rather than later. My wife watches a lot of those shows - Everyday Italian, Barefoot Contessa, etc.

I'd also like to see Comcast pick up FSN Pittsburgh in HD. Both Adelphia and Armstrong cable in this area have it. They haven't done a lot of Pirates and Penguins games yet, but it's increasing and we're missing out.

QZ1
06-16-06, 05:52 PM
It would be nice if they used the same language to describe tiers and packages across the system.
Here Digital Classic is not an add on package but a tier that includes standard cable plus some additional digital channels and costs $57.11 and Digital Plus adds a handful more channels and costs $62.11. The least expensive digital "anything" is called Enhanced cable and is the same lineup as Standard cable but you get a digital box for $48.16
Well, in our area, the pamphlet now lists a 'package' of 'Digital Classic with Standard', and a 'service' of 'Digital Classic'. And the pamphlet is what the FCC mandates the MSO's official info. to be.

Now, if you look at our local site, which is just a sales tool, they sell everything in a tiered manner. On their site, 'Digital Classic', really is Digital Classic with Standard, (one can tell from the price, and I think it mentions Std., also), and it's the only way it can be ordered online.
But per Comcast's pamphlet, one can phone or chat, and Expanded is not needed, their decision, in this case.

Also, online, they only offer Premiums with Digital Silver or higher (it includes Std., Digital Plus, and a Premium).
In reality, Basic is all that is needed to get a Premium, as per FCC mandate.

QZ1
06-16-06, 06:33 PM
Quote, QZ1:
Oh, and there is no reason to make Digital Classic subs get Expd., other than profit, of course.

Exactly. Comcast pays Discovery, NESN, TNT, ESPN2 all out of the revenues from Expanded Basic customers. There's no reason in any business model why you would get their equivalents included in the digital classic tier. You are not paying for those channels with that package. All businesses are seeking to maximize profits, Comcast should be no different.

According to the Comcast Website, you pay for with digital classic (minus the expanded basic channels if you don't subscribe to that tier):
Quote:

Comcast's Digital Classic package includes all of the following:
* Digital Classic Channels
* Digital Music Channels
* Limited Basic Channels
* Expanded Basic Channels
* Interactive Onscreen Program Guide
* Access to ON DEMAND movies and free programming!

Bonus Information: If you have an HDTV-Ready or HDTV-Capable television set, Comcast can offer you up to 10 channels in High Definition Format.
* Up to 1080i resolution and Dolby 5.1 surround sound.
* HDTV channels include ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, ESPN HD, INHD, INHD2, Showtime, HBO and Starz!
That's not what I said, read above again. :)
My point was, if one just wants Digital Classic, that is what they should give, but they don't in some areas.

You seem to imply that Expanded subs should get 'cable network' HD.
If so, I say, apparently, Comcast has the right, per channel agreements, to charge separately for SD and HD channels, (except Locals), whether people think it is fair or not.

You quoted from their site, it is a sales tool, it won't show the Digital Classic 'service', just the 'package', which includes Std.
Furthermore, even what you quoted, doesn't mention HD channels, only in 'Bonus info', mentioning all of the HD available.

According to our local Comcast pamphlet, wich is what the FCC mandates to be the MSO's official info., HD channels are each marked as being part of Basic, a Premium, or Digital Classic.
(It doesn't say 'Digital Classic with Standard', which is the 'package' moniker here.)

The HD 'cable networks' are marked 'Digital Classic'.
So, yes, we are paying for them with just Digital Classic (or Plus) 'service'.

Do you know for a fact that HD 'cable networks' aren't payed for based on Digital Classic sub numbers?
I bet they are, it is all subject to negotiation.

They can maximize profit, as they do in some areas with their pre-requisites, and if they do that here, I can also choose another provider. ;)

shades
06-19-06, 04:13 AM
South jersey june 28th, Universal HD channel 208

sangs
06-19-06, 06:42 AM
Message on my box this morning says TNT-HD coming June 28th (Channel 204, Comcast, Union NJ).

The bad news is they are also adding something called GAC, Travel Channel, TBN, Oxygen and The Word - channels I'm sure I'll never watch. Why not use the bandwidth for another HD channel?

chinch
06-19-06, 10:20 AM
Message on my box this morning says TNT-HD coming June 28th (Channel 204, Comcast, Union NJ).

The bad news is they are also adding something called GAC, Travel Channel, TBN, Oxygen and The Word - channels I'm sure I'll never watch. Why not use the bandwidth for another HD channel?
thanks for the info... that makes 2 HD additions (ESPN2 & TNT) in a month in our area. (i never check those "messages" and don't even know how to read them).

no doubt this is a direct result of the FIOS legislation that opens up services statewide in NJ

proof again that competition is good :)

PaulGo
06-19-06, 12:01 PM
Will Comcast actually do this? If so there is light at the end of the tunnel!

June 8, 2006
Dear MHz Fan:

Comcast and MHz have recently concluded an agreement that is beneficial to both companies. MHz will be able to place additional international channels on Comcast's digital cable platform in the Washington, D.C. market. These channels will help expand MHz's financial base. As a result Comcast viewers without digital cable will lose MHz's primary feed -- temporarily. Comcast expects the build-out of their digital cable service to take 12 to 24 months when ALL homes will have digital cable. When completed MHz's main feed will once again be seen in all Washington, D.C. area Comcast homes in addition to three new MHz channels....

http://www.mhznetworks.org/news/1250

blitzen102
06-19-06, 12:45 PM
Comcast expects the build-out of their digital cable service to take 12 to 24 months when ALL homes will have digital cable.

http://www.mhznetworks.org/news/1250

Interesting. Remember though, that some higher-up dude at Comcast has said that about 20 channels will remain analog for a few years. This could mean that Comcast will be going down to the 20 in 12-24 months.

QZ1
06-19-06, 05:58 PM
Interesting. Remember though, that some higher-up dude at Comcast has said that about 20 channels will remain analog for a few years. This could mean that Comcast will be going down to the 20 in 12-24 months.
IIRC, it was 20-40 channels, which implies to me, a Basic tier and possibly a truncated Expanded tier.

jrusnak
06-19-06, 07:55 PM
Message on my box this morning says TNT-HD coming June 28th (Channel 204, Comcast, Union NJ).

The bad news is they are also adding something called GAC, Travel Channel, TBN, Oxygen and The Word - channels I'm sure I'll never watch. Why not use the bandwidth for another HD channel?


GAC is the sound I made upon reading the message that TNT-HD is coming on. Only because, from all reports, TNT-HD is a waste. Still no UHD in North NJ, but I guess we should be thankful for anything from Comcast. (No idea what TBN is...maybe The Bulls**t Network?)

NortheasternPJ
06-19-06, 08:02 PM
Only because, from all reports, TNT-HD is a waste.

How is it a waste by all reports? It has NBA, Law and Order, the Closer, Saved, Some Xfiles, Angel, Charmed in HD plus a variety of movies in HD. (not all movies though).

They aren't as behind in HD as many seem to portray on this board.

maxman
06-19-06, 10:18 PM
How is it a waste by all reports? It has NBA, Law and Order, the Closer, Saved, Some Xfiles, Angel, Charmed in HD plus a variety of movies in HD. (not all movies though).

They aren't as behind in HD as many seem to portray on this board.

True. I've watched a few things since they added the channel a few weeks back. The stretch-o-vision shows are horrible to watch though (UNwatchable, actually --- what are they thinking?). And I'll take ALL the HD channels, please. Sooner rather than later, please.

rcodey
06-19-06, 10:27 PM
[QUOTE=chinch]thanks for the info... that makes 2 HD additions (ESPN2 & TNT) in a month in our area. (i never check those "messages" and don't even know how to read them).

no doubt this is a direct result of the FIOS legislation that opens up services statewide in NJ

New Jersey State Senate voted 31-5 for legislation approving statewide license.Gov expected to sign bill.Fios will be coming to NJ.

maxman
06-19-06, 10:32 PM
[QUOTE=chinch]...no doubt this is a direct result of the FIOS legislation that opens up services statewide in NJ

New Jersey State Senate voted 31-5 for legislation approving statewide license.Gov expected to sign bill.Fios will be coming to NJ.

The Senate today passed a revised version of what they passed last month (please don't ask me how that works!). Seems the revision allows the competition statewide without Verizon having to negotiate with individual municipalities.

jrusnak
06-20-06, 05:19 PM
How is it a waste by all reports? It has NBA, Law and Order, the Closer, Saved, Some Xfiles, Angel, Charmed in HD plus a variety of movies in HD. (not all movies though).

They aren't as behind in HD as many seem to portray on this board.

Well, I suppose it's a matter of preferences. Re-runs of old TV shows don't interest me that much. However, I understand that there will be a Stephen King anthology series coming up. So I'll reserve judgement until I actually see the channel first-hand.

nhey
06-20-06, 06:11 PM
[QUOTE=rcodey]

The Senate today passed a revised version of what they passed last month (please don't ask me how that works!). Seems the revision allows the competition statewide without Verizon having to negotiate with individual municipalities.

They passed the same version they passed last month. Since one result of the bill is an increase in cable taxes, the House must first vote on it, and then the Senate, and they forget that technicality, and had the Senate vote first last month, followed by the House. It now goes to Corzine for signature, however, I predict he will not sign it and send it back for changes to ensure that South Jersey also gets wired (Comcast is fighting really hard for this). Verizon should agree to that now and avoid further delays, but they are not too bright.

I'm very pro Verizon and will switch to FIOS TV immediately, however, they have made so many tactical errors along the way trying to get FIOS TV approved statewide it is amazing. They could have had this approval last year.

hdtvjunkie247
06-22-06, 02:08 PM
Anybody know when Northern and Central NJ could get Universal HD? South Jersey is receiving it on June 28, so I was just curious.

bubba5
06-24-06, 10:21 AM
UHD is aweful...they need to create at least 2 RSN for the New Jersey area in order to show all the local teams.

raidbuck
06-24-06, 12:01 PM
UHD is aweful...they need to create at least 2 RSN for the New Jersey area in order to show all the local teams.

In your opinion. We like it. Fewer commercials than TNTHD. Uncut, uncensored , uninterrupted movies in HD. So understand that Comcast can't please everyone.

No argument about sports. We don't get any Nats games and I believe there are no Nats games in HD anywhere (not that I'm a Nats fan, but...). And Comcast Sportsnet will lose the Orioles next year so no HD Oriole games either.

What we can agree on is to urge Comcast to keep expanding HD choices.

Rich N.

jrusnak
06-24-06, 12:33 PM
In your opinion. We like it. Fewer commercials than TNTHD. Uncut, uncensored , uninterrupted movies in HD. So understand that Comcast can't please everyone.
What we can agree on is to urge Comcast to keep expanding HD choices.
Rich N.

Have to agree. That's why I could care less about TNT-HD. I prefer films uneditted and without commercials.

bmoney017
06-24-06, 12:51 PM
UHD is aweful...they need to create at least 2 RSN for the New Jersey area in order to show all the local teams.

At least you have the channel. Detroit got ESPN2HD right when everyone else did, but we still dont have UHD or MHD, which would be a nice addition

maxman
06-24-06, 01:17 PM
At least you have the channel. Detroit got ESPN2HD right when everyone else did, but we still dont have UHD or MHD, which would be a nice addition

No UHD here yet, although we're supposed to get it 28 June. And apparently there are only about 20 people getting MHD so far, so don't feel bad.

Renagade
06-24-06, 02:13 PM
At least you have the channel. Detroit got ESPN2HD right when everyone else did, but we still dont have UHD or MHD, which would be a nice addition

ESPN2 is a alright channel but I hardly watch it. At least for the short time we had UHD, I did watch it regularly and the movies were cool.(well they could be better :D )

bubba5
06-24-06, 02:15 PM
In your opinion. We like it. Fewer commercials than TNTHD. Uncut, uncensored , uninterrupted movies in HD. So understand that Comcast can't please everyone.

No argument about sports. We don't get any Nats games and I believe there are no Nats games in HD anywhere (not that I'm a Nats fan, but...). And Comcast Sportsnet will lose the Orioles next year so no HD Oriole games either.

What we can agree on is to urge Comcast to keep expanding HD choices.

Rich N.

I also agree that TNTHD is a waste and I wish we were not getting it, but UHD is not much better.

maxman
06-24-06, 02:21 PM
I also agree that TNTHD is a waste and I wish we were not getting it...

I can't believe some of the comments here!

hdtvjunkie247
06-24-06, 02:24 PM
People should be happy that Comcast is giiving them more HD choices. I for want want both TNT-HD and Universal HD and I'm not alone.

Rakesh.S
06-24-06, 02:24 PM
At least you have the channel. Detroit got ESPN2HD right when everyone else did, but we still dont have UHD or MHD, which would be a nice addition

dallas doesn't have UHD, MHD or ESPN2HD. They're stuck waiting to see if and when Time Warner will be coming in - I don't think TWC has agreements for MHD or ESPN2HD, so they would have to drop them once they take over, which won't go over too well with the natives.

AndyHDTV
06-24-06, 05:26 PM
dallas doesn't have UHD, MHD or ESPN2HD. They're stuck waiting to see if and when Time Warner will be coming in - I don't think TWC has agreements for MHD or ESPN2HD, so they would have to drop them once they take over, which won't go over too well with the natives.

They should a least add UHD. because TWC does have an agreement for that channel.
I think TWC is trying to match current HD lineup from Comcast & Adelphia before the actual takeover of certain markets including Dallas.
That's why TWC just started offering Cinemax & Starz in HD. These channels are offered by both Comcast & Adelphia.

If you are in a area where Comcast will be turning in to TWC you might not see any additions that TWC doesn't have.

sikoniko
06-24-06, 05:32 PM
If comcast has national agreements for UHD and MHD, why dont they add it everywhere else as quickly as they added espn2? is boston a test market? what would they be waiting for?

Renagade
06-24-06, 08:38 PM
Bandwidth!!

Marcus Carr
06-24-06, 08:39 PM
We don't get any Nats games and I believe there are no Nats games in HD anywhere

Except for this weekend, when they are playing three games against the Orioles on CSN HD. They didn't dare not show that game.

sikoniko
06-24-06, 09:53 PM
Bandwidth!!

so what you are saying is that in all of comcasts markets, boston is the only one that has available bandwidth?

DaveFi
06-24-06, 10:36 PM
It also has to do with demand. I suspect since the Boston area has such a huge ethnic population (esp. Portuguese) there was a big demand for ESPN2 for the World Cup (check the Boston thread to see what I mean).

Renagade
06-25-06, 12:33 PM
so what you are saying is that in all of comcasts markets, boston is the only one that has available bandwidth?

Bandwidth is the biggest problem right now. The deal has been signed for UHD and MHD and when your area (and mine :mad: ) has the room it will be added.
Here in Detroit we had UHD temporarily but I'm assuming the demand was stronger for ESPN2HD so when the Olympics were over it was taken off and that space was eventually given to ESPN2HD when the contract was signed.

DonDougan
06-25-06, 04:34 PM
All Comcast cable Plants that use the following cable systems:

1) 54 Mhz - 550 Mhz System
2) 48 Mhz - 750 Mhz System
3) 42 Mhz - 850 Mhz system

are to be upgraded by end of 2008 to the current:

4) 5 MHz to 1000 MHz system.

Just give them some time to get it done. If you have a type 1 system, they will more then likely have to replace all of the coax from the drop point to the structure and the home owner will need to replace the inside coax and any spliters that do not have the new bandwith specs.

Is there any such thing as a 650 Mhz system? I'm on the Branford CT system and haven't gotten new channels since INHD2 last year. Other CT systems have at least gotten got ESPN2 HD for the world cup and are permanently getting TNTHD, ESPN2 HD, MHD and NESN HD. Branford got nothing. I know it's not a 550 Mhz system since I get some channels at 615 Mhz and 627 Mhz, for example. If I was on a 750 Mhz system I figure I would have had the bandwidth to get the new channels that the other CT 750 Mhz systems have already gotten.

The CT Comcast thread list Branford as a 650 Mhz system but 650 is conspicuously absent from the above list. If I am on a 650 Mhz system, what are the prospects of upgrades? More like a 550 system, or more like a 750 system? Who is the right person to complain to about the slow speed to get new channels? Certainly not the CSRs I imagine.

maxman
06-25-06, 04:56 PM
Tell me more about the "deal being signed" for MHD. I know we're getting UHD on 28 June, but what's the time frame for MHD? (S. Jersey)

kenvt
06-25-06, 06:16 PM
I can't believe some of the comments here!


I love "The Closer" and "Saved" on TNT and I would very much miss them if I didn't have TNT-HD.

I also have gotten into Battlestar Galactica in HD on UHD.

I can do without TNT's stretch-o-rama, and really bad shows on UHD like the equalizer....

Ballz2TheWallz
06-25-06, 06:54 PM
Hmm, what mhz system is balt. maryland? I'm assuming we are on a 750mhz system because i have channels on 657mhz frequencys

Renagade
06-25-06, 09:32 PM
Hmm, what mhz system is balt. maryland? I'm assuming we are on a 750mhz system because i have channels on 657mhz frequencys

Check your local thread, you probably will get your answer in there. According to another thread, the Boston area is on a 5 mhz - 1000 mhz system. Lucky bastards :rolleyes:

Ballz2TheWallz
06-25-06, 09:41 PM
Check your local thread, you probably will get your answer in there. According to another thread, the Boston area is on a 5 mhz - 1000 mhz system. Lucky bastards :rolleyes:
Not there(well not in the OP)

edit: yeah i think we have a 750mhz system(my house has all 5-1000mhz splitters...they always stole the ones i purchased, cutting them off and installing there higher mhz ones, I'm ready for the upgrade whenever they do it)

Marcus Carr
06-26-06, 01:16 AM
Hmm, what mhz system is balt. maryland? I'm assuming we are on a 750mhz system because i have channels on 657mhz frequencys

Baltimore City must be 860mhz. ESPN2 HD is at 817.75mhz.

Ballz2TheWallz
06-26-06, 01:40 AM
Baltimore City must be 860mhz. ESPN2 HD is at 817.75mhz.
Nice, so at the moment we shouldn't have trouble getting any other channels that other areas would get, no?

Marcus Carr
06-26-06, 02:11 AM
Nice, so at the moment we shouldn't have trouble getting any other channels that other areas would get, no?

We haven't so far this year.

bubba5
06-27-06, 08:36 PM
I think Comcast filled their quota till 2008!

cheezdawg475
06-27-06, 09:18 PM
i got htv hd a couple hours ago on comcast in chicago, only on the cablecard, can not get it with the box

jeff96gt
06-27-06, 10:04 PM
i got htv hd a couple hours ago on comcast in chicago, only on the cablecard, can not get it with the box

On what channel number did you find HGTV HD?

FSugino
06-27-06, 10:42 PM
On what channel number did you find HGTV HD?
He meant MHD (MTV HD). In the Chicago Comcast thread he mentioned that it appeard in place of TNT-HD, which is channel 204 on the regular box. Dunno how it appears on cable card systems.

rcodey
06-28-06, 04:47 AM
TNT-HD-CH204 came on at 4:30am on Comcast in Northern New Jersey.

maxman
06-28-06, 08:00 AM
We got UHD-HD here today in S. Jersey (channel 208).

(edited)

Stryker412
06-28-06, 08:11 AM
TNT-HD-CH204 came on at 4:30am on Comcast in Northern New Jersey.

Yep I turned it on today to see a beautiful stretched version of Angel. :rolleyes:

chitchatjf
06-28-06, 09:20 AM
I think Comcast filled their quota till 2008!

Far from it.

There is more coming :)

hdtvjunkie247
06-28-06, 09:41 AM
Comcast of Ocean County system (Brick) got TNT-HD today around 12:30 AM. We also got the other channels promised like WPIX The Tube, Oxygen, GAC, TBN and The Travel Channel. The only channel I'm having problems receiving is The Travel Channel on ch.188. It's been giving me just a blank screen, ever since it was added.

flyjar
06-28-06, 10:20 AM
Yep, just confirming Manchester, NJ got TNT-HD channel 204 sometime last night.

Addicted2HD4Now
06-28-06, 10:34 AM
Far from it.

There is more coming :)

Have any initials to go with that statement?

theman23
06-28-06, 02:42 PM
Now that you guys have it, I wonder will any other areas get it? Such as SF Bay Area? We certainly have the bandwidth, we currently have ESPN2HD on 2 channels.

blitzen102
06-28-06, 03:55 PM
Now that you guys have it, I wonder will any other areas get it? Such as SF Bay Area? We certainly have the bandwidth, we currently have ESPN2HD on 2 channels.

Probably your STB is mapping ESPN2-HD to two channels. There probably isn't really two feeds.

HBO-HD, CINEMAX HD, etc. are mapped to two channels here - one is in the HD channel range - the other is grouped with the other feeds for the premium channel. The STB just maps them this way - there is still only one feed.

theman23
06-28-06, 04:12 PM
No, they're on two separate feeds. One is on 661 MHz, the other is on 771.

bobby94928
06-28-06, 04:14 PM
Probably your STB is mapping ESPN2-HD to two channels. There probably isn't really two feeds.

HBO-HD, CINEMAX HD, etc. are mapped to two channels here - one is in the HD channel range - the other is grouped with the other feeds for the premium channel. The STB just maps them this way - there is still only one feed.

No, it is 2 feeds. They are coming in on different MHz. If it were mapping to both places, it would only be at 1 MHz.

Whoops, you beat me.

bubba5
06-28-06, 08:56 PM
here in NW NJ the channel is there but says im not authorized.

dan57
06-29-06, 08:36 AM
here in NW NJ the channel is there but says im not authorized.

If you are referring to TNT-HD, me too in Central Jersey.

fljeremy
06-29-06, 08:47 AM
I say the next channels are National Geo HD and HGTV-HD, FOODHD after speaking with my local executive office they say they should have all these by the end of the year and he mentioned they do have a good relationship with scripps so Food and HGTV should be easy adds.

maxman
06-29-06, 09:17 AM
Here's some info on The Food Network HD launch:

http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?guid=%7B76997628%2D1C9D%2D457C%2DAC61%2DEECE50723 F88%7D&siteid=mktw&dist=nbk&symb=

Vinny Aquilino
06-29-06, 11:47 AM
Here in Monroe,NJ Middlesex County TNT-HD Saya I'am Not Authorized.Whats That All About?Do They Want To Charge Us Extra?

willwhdtv
06-29-06, 11:52 AM
No I think all of Central NJ is still having this problem since yesterday. Call Comcast and let them know. Speak to your local Rep. sometimes the calls get bounced to another state.

Doolittle
06-29-06, 12:20 PM
I'll start complaining when there is something worthwhile to watch. It looks like it's basically ER, Charmed, Judging Amy and Without a Trace all week. Why did we want this channel? :p

Doolittle
06-29-06, 12:40 PM
TNTHD is live, for me. It's all stretchy. The bug isn't though.

willwhdtv
06-29-06, 01:02 PM
Doolittle - Did you have a problem with it yesterday?

Doolittle
06-29-06, 01:44 PM
Doolittle - Did you have a problem with it yesterday?
It was not up until this morning when I made my last post. I had the guide info all day yesterday with no picture, as others have described.

It seems like they are just stretching the show that was on (Judging Amy), as well as the commercials.

flyjar
06-30-06, 02:11 PM
Why did we want this channel? :pFor the basketball, whoops, a little to late.

Renagade
07-25-06, 11:05 AM
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say HDNET!! :D

Who knows... :cool:

kevin j
07-25-06, 02:05 PM
For what Comcast charges for cable[i pay over $90 a month]they could afford to get HDNET....cheap scumbags!

sikoniko
07-27-06, 02:34 PM
I put this in the MHD thread, but it may not get read by everyone, due to lack of interest in the channel, or whatnot. Anyways, here is what I heard last night:

My phone/internet modem, provided by comcast, got struck by lightning and I had a tech come out yesterday. he said next to MHD the next channel that will be coming is NGEOHD and it should be fairly soon. He didn't know when, it would happen, as they need to re-arrange some channels here, but did say soon.

Marcus Carr
07-27-06, 03:03 PM
My phone/internet modem, provided by comcast, got struck by lightning and I had a tech come out yesterday. he said next to MHD the next channel that will be coming is NGEOHD and it should be fairly soon. He didn't know when, it would happen, as they need to re-arrange some channels here, but did say soon.

As the title says I've got confirmation that Comcast feels they are just a matter of time (not a question of it they will get it but when) to getting a deal done for National Geographic Channel HD. I'm told they are within a couple of months at the latest until the papers are done. I'm hearing about a tenative date of September 1st, 2006 as the launch date again only for areas with bandwidth.

We will just have to wait and see if this pans out.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/showthread.php?p=592495#post592495

tcable
07-28-06, 03:59 PM
I'm hoping for NGEO HD. IT's by far my favorite SD channel.

kevin j
07-28-06, 08:47 PM
I'd bet it'll be NFL Network HD.

the49ola
07-28-06, 10:12 PM
The NFL network is a good guess. I know there was a post recently about the NFL nework updating their studios. I could definitly see this channel being simulcasted versus their games just showing up on INHD like the NBA or MLB. Not to mention that 208 has been saying NFL TV for a while now, and showing the GOW in HD.

sikoniko
07-28-06, 11:17 PM
to be honest, i could care less about more sports channels. espn2 is disappointing. we need more content that is diverse. sports fanatics can not continue to be the driving force for hd contracts with comcast.

HDSports
07-29-06, 12:27 AM
to be honest, i could care less about more sports channels. espn2 is disappointing. we need more content that is diverse. sports fanatics can not continue to be the driving force for hd contracts with comcast.


Yes they can....

bubba5
07-29-06, 10:22 PM
Without sports HD is a waste

sikoniko
07-30-06, 09:12 AM
Yes they can....

Without sports HD is a waste

so what you are saying is there is no reason anyone should provide a diverse range of content for me to watch in HD? I enjoy HD football, BUT, it is not the only thing I watch on TV and I am sure I am not the only one that feels this way.

those are your opinions, and you are certainly entitled to them, but that does not mean you represent everyone. so, please phrase your sentences accordingly.

Ou8thisSN
07-30-06, 11:42 AM
i'm much rather have Foodnetwork HD than NFL HD

bobby94928
07-30-06, 12:02 PM
I'd much rather have both.... :)

Nathan_R
07-30-06, 12:43 PM
I want as much HD as possible, but I agree, I'd rather have a non-sports HD channel come up next than the ESPN-OCHO-HD

bubba5
07-30-06, 10:04 PM
so what you are saying is there is no reason anyone should provide a diverse range of content for me to watch in HD? I enjoy HD football, BUT, it is not the only thing I watch on TV and I am sure I am not the only one that feels this way.

those are your opinions, and you are certainly entitled to them, but that does not mean you represent everyone. so, please phrase your sentences accordingly.

Damn straight my opinions, why do you think im wasting my time in this forum. Did you ever hear of free speech! Sure lets waste HD on sitcom's. The only other programming HD would be good for are channels like the travel channel and maybe some sifi movies. What good is HD on the tonight show, Sat night live, the morning show. If they start showing soaps in hd then we are in for problems.

Ou8thisSN
07-30-06, 10:05 PM
Alton Brown's show Good Eats will be in HD, i really hope we get food network.

Marcus Carr
07-30-06, 11:44 PM
If they start showing soaps in hd then we are in for problems.

Such as?

The Young and the Restless is in HD. Soaps (telenovelas) on My Network TV will be in HD. No "problems" so far.

kenvt
07-31-06, 06:55 AM
Damn straight my opinions, why do you think im wasting my time in this forum. Did you ever hear of free speech! Sure lets waste HD on sitcom's. The only other programming HD would be good for are channels like the travel channel and maybe some sifi movies. What good is HD on the tonight show, Sat night live, the morning show. If they start showing soaps in hd then we are in for problems.

Waste ? Last time I heard there wasn't a shortage of HD cameras or supplies, EVERYTHING should be in HD..... and yes there are some of us out here that like to watch stuff other than over paid brat athletes (although I must admit I watch them too).

-Ken

jpco
07-31-06, 08:14 AM
Everything is better in HD and everything should be in HD. The percentage of major sporting events in HD is excellent right now, so I'd be interested in seeing more variety in the HD programming world right now, and 70% of what I watch IS sports.

Sevenfeet
07-31-06, 08:25 AM
Alton Brown's show Good Eats will be in HD, i really hope we get food network.

Good Eats has been shot in HD for some time now and is prominently featured on Food Network HD's schedule. Alton Brown used to shoot music videos in his first career, so unlike a lot of TV talent, he actually cares about the show's video quality.

Unfortunately right now, the problem is that so few cable systems carry the channel right now that I haven't heard anyone who's actually seen the show in HD.

Addicted2HD4Now
07-31-06, 09:45 AM
I'm all for adding all these niche channels, eventually. As great as they might be to see out of anticipation, they will also disappoint the biggest fans because of the short list of unique content that they have at launch.

For example, MHD has been around for a little over 6 months now and has a very repetitive lineup. I would imagine that over time they will add more and more content to the lineup, but it won't happen overnight.

At least when it comes to sports in HD each game/event is unique, but then they are not 24/7 HD channels either.

Any HD that gets added is good in my book, but I think you'll continue to see an emphasis put on sports programming in HD and variety channels like HDNet over niche channels until they mature a bit.

Just my opinion, yours may vary.

Sevenfeet
07-31-06, 12:14 PM
Content for these new HD channels can be problematic. Discovery Channel waited three years to get enough HD content before launching Discovery HD. Like DiscHD, Food Network HD is not a simulcast channel of the SD version of the network. That's unfortunate since you'd think that Food Network would have been shooting all of its main shows in HD for some time. But I'll take whatever we can get at this point.

Cucuy
07-31-06, 01:00 PM
I'd bet it'll be NFL Network HD.

Some markets already offer this channel without pre-empting INHD. I get it on a HD Special Events Channel we have but it is still not on 24/7.

jrusnak
07-31-06, 06:26 PM
Any HD that gets added is good in my book, but I think you'll continue to see an emphasis put on sports programming in HD and variety channels like HDNet over niche channels until they mature a bit.Just my opinion, yours may vary.

Well, considering UHD is slated to begion showing FIRFLY in HD, already has BSG in HD, and uncut, commercial free movies in HD, I hate that Comcast decided to give us the useless TNT-HD instead. While I agree that everything should be in HD, I just feel that items like Food Channels, Golf Channels, etc., should be last on the list of potential additions. And if sports fans don't have enough HD options by now, then they're just being selfish! :-)

sl1974
08-01-06, 04:07 AM
Sports will always be a driving force in the decision of programming. I will bet that OLNHD will be coming soon, renamed to Versus later this year, as the channel is owned by Comcast!

I would like to see NGHD, UHD. Nothing else really has what I watch in enough HD.

kevin j
08-01-06, 01:44 PM
I hope we get something new HD channelwise soon since[here in the Chicago area]we lost INHD2/HDSE yesterday and got nothing to replace them.

stw2323
08-02-06, 11:07 PM
Look, the answer is HdNet. It has movies, sports and, I think, coverage of news events. I would satisfy everyone

maxman
08-02-06, 11:28 PM
Look, the answer is HdNet. It has...I think, coverage of news events...

Dan Rather (love him or hate him, that's not my point) will be doing a show for HDNet soon, so it looks like they're spreading out their programming into areas that might make them a "must carry" network that companies like Comcast won't be able to do without in the near future. Just my opinion, but let's hope...

Slickone
08-03-06, 01:52 AM
I hope we get something new HD channelwise soon since[here in the Chicago area]we lost INHD2/HDSE yesterday and got nothing to replace them.


Could mean that Comcast is under pressure to make NFL-HD full time, so you may see that coming soon. Comcast HD decisions are mainly sports-based anyway(MHD being the exception) so that shouldn't surprise you.

GoIrish
08-03-06, 06:09 AM
Could mean that Comcast is under pressure to make NFL-HD full time, so you may see that coming soon. Comcast HD decisions are mainly sports-based anyway(MHD being the exception) so that shouldn't surprise you.

I'm not seeing the sport slant you speak of. The last three channels added here were TNT, UHD and ESPN2.Coming next I understand are MHD and Nat Geo.

But, some areas are different.

GoIrish

Marcus Carr
08-03-06, 08:18 AM
I'm not seeing the sport slant you speak of. The last three channels added here were TNT, UHD and ESPN2.


TNT was added just before the NBA playoffs. UHD was added just before the Olympics. ESPN2 is obvious. There's definitely a sports slant.

NortheasternPJ
08-03-06, 09:41 AM
There's definitely a sports slant

As there should be. Like it or not, sports is the main reason many go to HD. Once they are there, they appreciate it a lot more in the other channels. I don't know anyone whos run out to get HD because of TNT HD or MHD etc.

As stereotypical as it sounds many men enjoy watching sports and will spend the money to buy an HDTV. I know about 30 people that have gone HD, all because of sports and all of them their wives or girlfriends couldn't care less. My GF still watches the SD versions half the time until I flip to HD. The idea of spending $1000+ on a tv for many women is absurd. I'll probably get ripped on here for saying it and I don't think it applies to everyone, but in my personal experience that's just how it is.

At this point, I'm all for whatever increases the HDTV's market among the masses. In the end, it will just accelerate the pace other channels go HD. Food Network HD probably won't sell many HDTV sets and have people get the HD box, NFL HD may.

bratboy
08-03-06, 10:04 AM
I can count at least 20-30 ppl I know who bought HD TV's and have absolutly no interest in Sports. They went HD for the promise of high quality veiwing of Movies etc. Knowing 30 ppl who are sports nutz is not a definitive proof of who's buying what and for why. I have one months worth of credit left with Comcast and unless they suddenly decide to add some decent new HD's I'm gone. This crap of shoving more sports oriented stuff at us while giving us nothing I'd consider substantial entertainment wise is redicoulous.

Addicted2HD4Now
08-03-06, 10:11 AM
As stereotypical as it sounds many men enjoy watching sports and will spend the money to buy an HDTV. I know about 30 people that have gone HD, all because of sports and all of them their wives or girlfriends couldn't care less. My GF still watches the SD versions half the time until I flip to HD. The idea of spending $1000+ on a tv for many women is absurd. I'll probably get ripped on here for saying it and I don't think it applies to everyone, but in my personal experience that's just how it is.


Looks like your GF is now in the minority, according to this article on Informationweek.

Study: Tech Replaces Diamonds As Girl's Best Friend

Women, on average, own nearly as much technology as their male counterparts and would appreciate a digital video camera more than a pair of designer shoes

NEW YORK - Diamonds are no longer a girl's best friend, according to a new U.S. study that found three of four women would prefer a new plasma TV to a diamond necklace.

The survey, commissioned by cable television's Oxygen Network, which is owned and operated by women, found the technology gender gap has virtually closed with the majority of women snapping up new technology and using it easily.

Women were found on average to own 6.6 technology devices while men own 6.9, and four out of every five women felt comfortable using technology with 46 percent doing their own computer trouble-shooting.

"People make the assumption that women are not as advanced as men when it comes to technology and I was surprised at the parity men and women now have in terms of technology," Geraldine Laybourne, chairman and chief executive of Oxygen Network, told Reuters.

The Girls Gone Wired survey of 1,400 women and 700 men aged 15 to 49, which was conducted by market researcher TRU, found that given the choice, women would opt for tech items rather than luxury items like jewelry or vacations.

The study found 77 percent of women surveyed would prefer a new plasma television to a diamond solitaire necklace and 56 percent would opt for a new plasma TV over a weekend vacation in Florida.

Full article:
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=191601137&cid=RSSfeed_IWK_All

balazer
08-03-06, 11:44 AM
UHD was added just before the Olympics.True, but most Comcast systems that added UHD before the Olympics pulled the channel right after.

Gary*w*
08-03-06, 12:09 PM
Like It or not, sports are a driving force in Comcast descision making. With the NFL network now airing both pre season and regular season games this season you can bet NFL HD will be on most Comcast systems by Sept. specially in markets with teams.

As for women not caring about HD. My wife was sold on it after watching a hockey game in HD at a friend's house. When we got home, suddenly she was down with dropping a couple grand on a new TV.

bratboy
08-03-06, 12:09 PM
Same happened here in Denver, we got a cpl days of UHD and then it went back to inhd2 after the olympics(heavy Sigh) at least during that time among other stuff they ran a bunch of Monk episodes in true HD which, for me at least, was a great if guilty pleasure.

Marcus Carr
08-03-06, 12:17 PM
True, but most Comcast systems that added UHD before the Olympics pulled the channel right after.

Which proves my point.

Gary*w*
08-03-06, 12:21 PM
I enjoied the Knight Rider re-runs we got after the Olympics on UHD.

tangfoot
08-03-06, 12:40 PM
I would satisfy everyone

Freudian?

skaus
08-03-06, 01:58 PM
It would be very nice to get UHDHD during the U.S. Open Tennis. They are on every night.

Yes, there is a lot of sports, but many events are still in SD (e.g. major tennis tournaments except CBS weekend U.S. Open coverage) and SD looks horrible on a HDTV. Some time ago, I posted a poll that showed the majority of HD viewers are men and their main interest is sports. I am in that group pretty firmly!

sikoniko
08-03-06, 02:08 PM
I can see the point that sports guide comcasts decision for HD.

I don't agree with it though. Football is the only sport I watch.

So, based on that, from late august to early february, I watch football 2 days a week. I don't watch college. So what you are telling me is, that you don't think I should get to watch content I would like to the rest of the time, because you want sports and think you are the majority and I am the minority?

Where there is one of me, there are more. Id bet if we could see the research, it would show there might be a slight bias towards sports, but the overwhelming majority would be split between a variety of content and sports. maybe providers feel they cater to a larger group of people by adding the ESPN2's, which is crap currently, over a niche product like NGEOHD or HGTVHD.

Im just saying, I want everything I watch to be in HD, not just one genre and it is BS to say that sports are the only thing that sells HDTV's. If 0% of prime time was HD, Id bet there would be a lot less sales than if 100% of all sports were HD.

what sells HD is content. end of story. not one genre, but a variety of genres. As quick as companies are offering content, of any genre, providers should be adding it. Bandwidth is not my problem. I pay my bill like everyone else.

GoIrish
08-03-06, 02:37 PM
TNT was added just before the NBA playoffs. UHD was added just before the Olympics. ESPN2 is obvious. There's definitely a sports slant.

TNT and UHD are not sports channels. If it was for the sporting events exclusively as you purport, we wouldn't still have them.

pedrojunkie
08-03-06, 02:43 PM
Sports has the content, other forums don't its as simple as that.

Unfortunatly there just isn't enough content to go around, HD hasn't really hit syndication yet in full force. Sports lends itself well to HD because its all live. They do their own programming so they don't have to work out the TNTHD or not syndication problems. look at the non-sports stations... what are they showing? Knight Rider? Surface? Century City? Twilight Zone? Law and Order 4,213 times a day? There is an extremely limited amount of content out there and its not Comcast's fault. Its still early in syndication rights for shows shot in HD and negotiating the rights for the High Def syndication rights last I heard was cost prohibitive for most shows still on the air.

What Comcast really needs is another useful station, one that people will actually watch. None of the HGTVHD or National Geographic HD. Ideally FoxHD comes in with guns blazing and Nip/Tuck, The Shield, Rescue Me, Quality Movies, Maybe kick it off with a 24/48/120 hours of 24 in HD marathon a few other suprises... (Andy Richter stolen back from HDNET?)

nikeykid
08-03-06, 02:43 PM
TNT and UHD are not sports channels. If it was for the sporting events exclusively as you purport, we wouldn't still have them.

in bandwidth starved areas, UHD was taken off after the olympics, so in our case, sports did drive the temporary addition.

sikoniko
08-03-06, 03:19 PM
What Comcast really needs is another useful station, one that people will actually watch. None of the HGTVHD or National Geographic HD. Ideally FoxHD comes in with guns blazing and Nip/Tuck, The Shield, Rescue Me, Quality Movies, Maybe kick it off with a 24/48/120 hours of 24 in HD marathon a few other suprises... (Andy Richter stolen back from HDNET?)

I disagree here. I'd love to watch NGEOHD. I watch the SD channel more than I ever watched the history channel. HGTV would be great to have for my wife.

Maybe someone should start a poll to get everyone involved, not just comcast people? then again, polls might not be very representative if everyone doesn't participate.

Marcus Carr
08-03-06, 03:19 PM
TNT and UHD are not sports channels. If it was for the sporting events exclusively as you purport, we wouldn't still have them.

I know they are not sports channels, and I didn't say exclusively. As I pointed out, they were added before other channels because of certain sporting events, and they show sports throughout the year. Channels like Food Network have NO sports and thus were not added first.

Gary*w*
08-06-06, 08:35 AM
There's a message on my cablebox this morning that MHD is being added Aug. 31! So it's not all sports after all.

bratboy
08-06-06, 09:15 AM
Sadly Im beginning to suspect I'll never be satisfied with Comcasts moves. Maybe its not "Sports" but at same time its nothing to get excited about. Back when they were Music TV and dedicated their channel to music vids it would of been a great thing but as things stand thier lineup isnt very impressive, scanned TV Guide for approx a week, ton of its reality junk like "Cribs" Real World & Making the Band. Just one more wasted spot to me that wont get watched. Heck I'd much rather put up with Tube in SD, at least its all music like MTV used to be and they actually are broadcasting Tube with good dolby sound.

henry296
08-06-06, 09:16 AM
bratboy,

MHD is not a simulcast of MTV. It is mostly a music channel with programming from MTV, VH1 and CMT.

bratboy
08-06-06, 09:20 AM
Ah, then it might not be so bad, if they even get around to putting on Denvers system but if you like music vids only & get Tube, check it out. Its become my fav music station and fill when theres nothing else on to watch. Here in Denver its on like 249 or something close.

Anyone have a link to MHD's web site?

nightowl
08-06-06, 11:32 AM
Anyone have a link to MHD's web site?
http://www.mhd.tv/

VH-1 Storytelles, CMT Crossroads, live concerts, actually looks like a really good channel!

klemsaba
08-06-06, 02:09 PM
http://www.mhd.tv/

VH-1 Storytelles, CMT Crossroads, live concerts, actually looks like a really good channel!

It was a good channel but now they still play the same shows they had back in January.

maxman
08-06-06, 08:31 PM
...get Tube, check it out...

Shame it's not in HD, it would make a great channel.

maxman
08-06-06, 08:33 PM
There's a message on my cablebox this morning that MHD is being added Aug. 31! So it's not all sports after all.

Wish WE got messages here. Comcast won't even add it to their website lineup until it's been on for a few weeks. Their website is totally worthless for a multi-billion dollar company.

Marcus Carr
08-07-06, 08:57 AM
Comcast to Add Universal HD
High-def channel features NBC produced programs.
Special to TVPredictions.com

Washington, D.C. (August 4, 2006) -- Comcast this month is scheduled to add Universal HD in Philadelphia and several other cities, TVPredictions.com has learned.

The high-def channel, which features sports, movies and TV programs produced by NBC Universal such as Quantum Leap and Century City, was added to Comcast's lineup prior to the 2006 Winter Olympics in February.

However, in most markets, the channel was pulled after the Olympic coverage was completed. (Universal HD aired HD broadcasts of the Olympics from its sister network, NBC.)

But Comcast is planning to bring the channel back in selected markets as early as August 15. At presstime, other than Philadelphia, the names of the selected markets could not be determined,

Comcast last month began rolling out MHD, MTV's new high-def channel, in selected cities.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcastuniversal080406.htm

chitchatjf
08-07-06, 09:32 AM
Comcast to Add Universal HD
High-def channel features NBC produced programs.
Special to TVPredictions.com

Washington, D.C. (August 4, 2006) -- Comcast this month is scheduled to add Universal HD in Philadelphia and several other cities, TVPredictions.com has learned.

The high-def channel, which features sports, movies and TV programs produced by NBC Universal such as Quantum Leap and Century City, was added to Comcast's lineup prior to the 2006 Winter Olympics in February.

However, in most markets, the channel was pulled after the Olympic coverage was completed. (Universal HD aired HD broadcasts of the Olympics from its sister network, NBC.)

But Comcast is planning to bring the channel back in selected markets as early as August 15. At presstime, other than Philadelphia, the names of the selected markets could not be determined,

Comcast last month began rolling out MHD, MTV's new high-def channel, in selected cities.

http://www.tvpredictions.com/comcastuniversal080406.htm


OLD NEWS Boston has had UHD since Feb and MHD since June.

PaulGo
08-07-06, 09:38 AM
OLD NEWS Boston has had UHD since Feb and MHD since June.

Not for the people that don't have it!

Marcus Carr
08-07-06, 09:45 AM
OLD NEWS Boston has had UHD since Feb and MHD since June.

NOT OLD NEWS. Try reading it this time.

Milmanias
08-07-06, 10:23 AM
Thanks for the good info, Marcus. I'm hoping Atlanta will get it back again.

DaveFi
08-07-06, 12:03 PM
Good news for those that don't have it I guess. You will tire of it quickly though.

With the exception of Battlestar Galactica there really is no continuing series on the channel. The rest are reruns and an occasional good movie.

HDNet, where are you?

Scarpad
08-07-06, 12:26 PM
Plus Battlestar is a Season Behind on UHD

DaveFi
08-07-06, 12:30 PM
Plus Battlestar is a Season Behind on UHDNo it is not.

Last year they just started running the current season around Feb/March and ran it continuously with no breaks inbetween until it caught up with Sci-Fi's broadcast.

Scarpad
08-07-06, 01:31 PM
Right but they won't be airing season 3 concurrently with Scifi they will be delaying them

Ou8thisSN
08-07-06, 01:54 PM
heh, that would be great if we in Nashville got UHD. UHD might carry Psych or house soon...

scanpa
08-07-06, 01:57 PM
Right but they won't be airing season 3 concurrently with Scifi they will be delaying them

During Sci-Fi BSG Season 2 Run, UHD was exactly 6 Episodes behind Sci-Fi.

They have already stated that Season 3 will priemere on UHD in 2007

jrusnak
08-07-06, 02:01 PM
Good news for those that don't have it I guess. You will tire of it quickly though.

With the exception of Battlestar Galactica there really is no continuing series on the channel. The rest are reruns and an occasional good movie.

HDNet, where are you?

Just getting FIREFLY in HD would be enough for me. And at least the films are not censored. That makes it more desirable for me than, say, TNT-HD. Unfortunately, North NJ always seems to be last when it comes to new adds from Comcast.

hdtvjunkie247
08-07-06, 02:27 PM
I'm hoping for UHD and MHD to be the next additions in NJ.