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DaveFi
08-07-06, 02:45 PM
Just getting FIREFLY in HD would be enough for me. And at least the films are not censored. That makes it more desirable for me than, say, TNT-HD. Unfortunately, North NJ always seems to be last when it comes to new adds from Comcast.And once those 12 episodes air you'll be back to nothing again.

Seriously, outside of BG and maybe 1 or 2 movies a month I never watch the channel. That's what, 8hrs of programming a month (at most)? That's terrible.

sikoniko
08-07-06, 02:54 PM
I could easily say that TNTHD is a waste too, but Id be upset if they took it away! The more the merrier.

raidbuck
08-07-06, 04:08 PM
I never thought I'd watch TNTHD after the NBA season, but I watch a lot. (only with DVR, incredible number of breaks and commercials).

I never thought I'd watch UHD afte the Olympics but I watch frequently. (only with DVR although their movies are uninterrupted and unedited - TNTHD is a simulcast so they have to edit the movies).

I watch both combined more than ESPN1 and 2, and I'm a big sports fan and do watch those for live HD events when I can.

I just can't imagine watching MHD (when it comes) except to see what it is like. But just because our favorite wish list channel isn't here yet...Maybe MHD will surprise me (although since I don't like rock music I don't see how).

We all are different. I'm sure there are people here who would rather have MHD than HDNET (right Comcast?). Hmm...I guess there are (right Comcast?)...Hmmm.

Hold on for NGHD and NFLHD and .....(fill in except HDNET). Comcast is expanding rapidly it seems.

Rich N.

DaveFi
08-07-06, 05:03 PM
I don't watch sports at all, so there's little on any of these channels to interest me. I'm sure I'd watch HDNet more than all the other channels combined if they'd carry it.

maxman
08-07-06, 08:14 PM
...Comcast is expanding rapidly it seems...

Define rapidly. (???)

nikeykid
08-07-06, 08:36 PM
Define rapidly. (???)

as rapidly as continents move

keenan
08-07-06, 09:06 PM
Must have been talking about Comcast's bank account. :p

raidbuck
08-08-06, 08:05 AM
Define rapidly. (???)

It is possible that in 2006 Comcast will add UHD (done), ESPN2 (done), MHD (rollout underway), NFLHD (I'm sure in time for any exclusive NFL Network games) and NGHD (strongest rumors for next addition), and maybe more. That's pretty good for one year and much more rapidly than in the past.

Just because the list doesn't include HDNET (it bothers me, too, that we don't have it) doesn't mean progress isn't being made. And there's no "HD-lite".

Rich N.

Marcus Carr
08-08-06, 08:11 AM
Just because the list doesn't include HDNET (it bothers me, too, that we don't have it) doesn't mean progress isn't being made.
Rich N.

HDNet may be coming also.

raidbuck
08-08-06, 09:42 AM
HDNet may be coming also.

I'm afraid that might be more wishful thinking (negotiations have been going on for years) than justifiable optimism. I've been waiting for 3 years.

Rich N.

Marcus Carr
08-08-06, 09:49 AM
I'm afraid that might be more wishful thinking (negotiations have been going on for years) than justifiable optimism. I've been waiting for 3 years.

Rich N.

According to Mark Cuban, things are going very well. We'll see.

Renagade
08-08-06, 10:29 AM
According to Mark Cuban, things are going very well. We'll see.

I've been hearing the same thing!! :cool:

Addicted2HD4Now
08-08-06, 10:41 AM
... NFLHD (I'm sure in time for any exclusive NFL Network games) ...


According to HDSportsGuide.com the first NFL Network game is this Saturday, August 12 at 10AM which is a replay of the 8/11 game between NY Jet and Tampa Bay with another handful to follow over the week after that. It'll be interesting to see if NFL HD shows up before that or if those games are seen on INHD instead.

raidbuck
08-08-06, 02:18 PM
According to HDSportsGuide.com the first NFL Network game is this Saturday, August 12 at 10AM which is a replay of the 8/11 game between NY Jet and Tampa Bay with another handful to follow over the week after that. It'll be interesting to see if NFL HD shows up before that or if those games are seen on INHD instead.

I'm hoping we get it before the start of NFL Network's 8 (I think that's the number) exclusive regular season games. I didn't know about the exhibition games. I guess we'll miss those if they are not on INHD.

Rich N.

Risuli
08-08-06, 03:26 PM
As for me I was hoping Comcast would add Fox Sports Net HD. As a Tigers fan, I never seem to be able to see the Tigers in High Def. When they are broadcast on INHD in Detroit, its blacked out due to the local crappy SD coverage on some other channel.

blitzen102
08-08-06, 03:31 PM
As for me I was hoping Comcast would add Fox Sports Net HD. As a Tigers fan, I never seem to be able to see the Tigers in High Def. When they are broadcast on INHD in Detroit, its blacked out due to the local crappy SD coverage on some other channel.

According to the FSN Detroit schedule, they are broadcasting about 12 games this month in HD.

http://msn.foxsports.com/name/HD

hoogs
08-09-06, 05:01 PM
According to the FSN Detroit schedule, they are broadcasting about 12 games this month in HD.

http://msn.foxsports.com/name/HD

Yeah they are...........just not on Comcast :(

JWhip
08-10-06, 01:49 PM
From what I have been told, the next on the list are National Geographic and Food Network. No HDNet in the forseeable future.!

kevin j
08-10-06, 02:03 PM
National Geographic and Food Channel but no NFL-HD?

Milmanias
08-10-06, 02:24 PM
From what I have been told, the next on the list are National Geographic and Food Network. No HDNet in the forseeable future.!

Are you allowed to explain why some cities do not have UHD or the music channel yet? Is it due to bandwidth limitation, or is there some political play delaying the deployment?

Just wondering why Atlanta doesn't have UHD yet while were able to have it during the Olympics.

Thanks

JimsArcade
08-10-06, 02:44 PM
I received a message on my cable box stating that UHD will be added to the Southeast PA systems on 8/15. We received MHD on 8/1 with no official announcement, save its inclusion in the rearranged channel lineup cards that were sent to us in the mail.

Renagade
08-10-06, 02:53 PM
I received a message on my cable box stating that UHD will be added to the Southeast PA systems on 8/15. We received MHD on 8/1 with no official announcement, save its inclusion in the rearranged channel lineup cards that were sent to us in the mail.

Consider yourself lucky! When ever Comcasts adds something here, I receive no message at all.

Gary*w*
08-10-06, 03:06 PM
We got the message in Middle Tennessee that MHD is comming on the 31st. I'd like to get UHD back (had it durring Olympics) but I'm really wanting HDNET and a Fox Sports HD channel.

JWhip
08-10-06, 03:14 PM
Normally is is Banwidth that is the issue. No word on NFL-HD yet.

raidbuck
08-10-06, 04:14 PM
Normally is is Banwidth that is the issue. No word on NFL-HD yet.

I may be naive, but I just can't believe that Comcast would not have the 8 regular season games from NFLNetwork on HD.

Hmm, Food Network? I was hoping HGTV-HD would come before that.

Good to hear about NGHD, hopefully their productions will be as good as INHD and Discovery. Of course, I won't be able to watch it live because it is a simulcast and will be filled with commercials, but at least we can record some good shows.
(my wife refuses to watch any show with significant commercials. We record 10-20 hours per week).

Rich N.

ABHD
08-10-06, 04:17 PM
Normally is is Banwidth that is the issue. No word on NFL-HD yet.

Any word on how or when they plan to fix the bandwidth problem in areas that aren't adding any HD channels due to this problem?

One of the reasons I decided to finally go all out and get my TV was that I heard Comcast was going to add a bunch of HD this year, but I didn't realize that meant "in selected areas."

It's been both exciting and frustrating hearing about the new HD channels being added to Comcast. However, since I bought my HDTV and got Comcast, they have not added any more HD content, only replaced channels. In fact, we have less HD content now due to the fact we no longer have INHD2, and I have heard nothing about any of these new channels coming to our area anytime soon.

The thing that seems kind of unfair about Comcast in all this is that I'm probably paying the same bill for my Platinum package here in Seattle as someone that has the same package but also recieves MHD, UHD, INHD2 and more... I'd even be willing to pay extra for those if I had the option, but I don't. My only other option is to maybe go with Dish ( but there are probably way too many trees where I live ).

For now, I'm sticking it out with Comcast and just waiting patiently and hoping that they are working hard on bringing us all their full HD lineup soon.

maxman
08-10-06, 06:35 PM
The thing that seems kind of unfair about Comcast in all this is that I'm probably paying the same bill for my Platinum package here in Seattle as someone that has the same package but also recieves MHD, UHD, INHD2 and more...

My Platinum Plus alone is $109.95. Doesn't include the DVR and sales tax, etc., nor my Comcast internet (South Jersey). By the way, of those you mentioned, I receive UHD and INHD2, but not MHD yet.

keenan
08-10-06, 08:24 PM
Consider yourself lucky! When ever Comcasts adds something here, I receive no message at all.
You're luckier than us, at least you get the channels, Comcast never even adds channels here, period. It's been over 3 years now I believe... :p

keenan
08-10-06, 08:26 PM
Regarding the NFLN HD games, doesn't Comcast use a special events channel to show those games? I know they do it in the upgraded areas of the SF bay area.

ABHD
08-10-06, 08:26 PM
My Platinum Plus alone is $109.95. Doesn't include the DVR and sales tax, etc., nor my Comcast internet (South Jersey). By the way, of those you mentioned, I receive UHD and INHD2, but not MHD yet.

Wow, just as I suspected. Thanks for the post Maxman. I just looked up my bill online and for Digital platinum plus I'm paying $110.97 not including the DVR. We do not get UHD, or INHD2. We do; however, have 23 new FM radio stations just added that are broadcast in the upper 900's that fill up every inch of my HD screen in black.

Outside of the Platinum package( which gives me 4 extra HD movie channels ), we really only get 2 channels that broadcast HD content 24/7, that is INHD, and DHD, TNT-HD stretches a lot of stuff which is really annoying and not HD. ESPN and ESPN-2 HD don't seem to broadcast a whole lot in HD yet either, and the major networks mainly only broadcast HD in primetime.

I'm mainly interested in watching a large variety of content in HD, and with our current HD lineup there's not always a lot to choose from especially with all of the repeats and reruns now. Though it is slowy getting better as more shows are being broadcast in HD. Well, hopefully Comcast is getting there HD act together soon cause I just read in another post that INHD and NFL-HD is coming to Dish also!

theman23
08-11-06, 01:44 AM
Regarding the NFLN HD games, doesn't Comcast use a special events channel to show those games? I know they do it in the upgraded areas of the SF bay area.

They did that last year, but now that channel, channel 725, is broadcasting ESPN2HD. I think they'll remove it by the time NFL Network starts broadcasting games in HD. Anyone know when the first game they're scheduled to show in HD is?

oleus
08-11-06, 07:15 AM
Are you allowed to explain why some cities do not have UHD or the music channel yet? Is it due to bandwidth limitation, or is there some political play delaying the deployment?

Just wondering why Atlanta doesn't have UHD yet while were able to have it during the Olympics.

Thanks

i would like to know the same thing. we get UHD taken away, and still don't have MHD.

Scarpad
08-11-06, 07:50 AM
From what I have been told, the next on the list are National Geographic and Food Network. No HDNet in the forseeable future.!

Great Hi Def Food just what my expanding beltline needs :eek:

Gary*w*
08-11-06, 10:03 AM
I caught this article that says INHD2 is going dark on some cable systems.

http://www.tvweek.com/page.cms?pageId=228

bratboy
08-11-06, 10:21 AM
here in Denver its already gone, was replaced with TnTHD a week or so ago.

Addicted2HD4Now
08-11-06, 11:45 AM
here in Denver its already gone, was replaced with TnTHD a week or so ago.

Did you not have an RSN that shared the channel with INHD 2?

For example, in CT we have YES HD that shares 207 (INHD 2) for Yankee games so I assume that's why it hasn't been removed yet.

Cucuy
08-11-06, 12:55 PM
Regarding the NFLN HD games, doesn't Comcast use a special events channel to show those games? I know they do it in the upgraded areas of the SF bay area.

Yeah here in the Sacramento Comcast market COmcast uses the HDSE channel to broadcast the NFLHD network stuff. I guess that wherever they have BW crunch they use a similar approach as oppossed to having the NFLHD fulltime

JWhip
08-11-06, 02:09 PM
It is my understanding that there will not be a full time NFL-HD channel added by Comcast for this season. It will be on for next year. However, the NFL HD games will be on as will the NFL HD games of the week. For me, this is fine and dandy. I was also told that the plans are for Comcast to donble their HD offerings, bandwidth permitting, by this time next year. It does not look like there is any chance that HDNet will be one of them unless Mark greatly reduces his fee demand. Believe me, I would not pay it either and I love HDNet. There will also be several new HD channels going up in the next two or three months. It should prove interesting! 2007 looks like it will be a huge year for HD as about 60 new national HD channels are anticipated being made available. Even Cartoon Network HD!

Renagade
08-11-06, 02:59 PM
It is my understanding that there will not be a full time NFL-HD channel added by Comcast for this season. It will be on for next year. However, the NFL HD games will be on as will the NFL HD games of the week. For me, this is fine and dandy. I was also told that the plans are for Comcast to donble their HD offerings, bandwidth permitting, by this time next year. It does not look like there is any chance that HDNet will be one of them unless Mark greatly reduces his fee demand. Believe me, I would not pay it either and I love HDNet. There will also be several new HD channels going up in the next two or three months. It should prove interesting! 2007 looks like it will be a huge year for HD as about 60 new national HD channels are anticipated being made available. Even Cartoon Network HD!

I hope Comcast has a GOOD plan for all those new channels to be added. Especially for areas like mine that are already maxed out bandwidth wise...

MickeyGee
08-11-06, 03:09 PM
It is my understanding that there will not be a full time NFL-HD channel added by Comcast for this season. It will be on for next year. However, the NFL HD games will be on as will the NFL HD games of the week...
Where will they put the part-time NFL Channel? InHD-2 is going dark.

Mickey

Renagade
08-11-06, 03:10 PM
Hdnet is a channel I was looking forward to because of their variety of shows but if they really are hard balling Comcast, then that pretty much shuts me up about it!

willwhdtv
08-11-06, 03:10 PM
JWHIP - Does that mean that for those of us who have INHD2 that is the location where the NFL-HD broadcast will reside for the 2006 - 2007 season?

JWhip
08-11-06, 03:29 PM
I do not know. I assumed they will preempt INHD.

Marcus Carr
08-11-06, 03:33 PM
It is my understanding that there will not be a full time NFL-HD channel added by Comcast for this season. It will be on for next year. However, the NFL HD games will be on as will the NFL HD games of the week. For me, this is fine and dandy. I was also told that the plans are for Comcast to donble their HD offerings, bandwidth permitting, by this time next year. It does not look like there is any chance that HDNet will be one of them unless Mark greatly reduces his fee demand. Believe me, I would not pay it either and I love HDNet. There will also be several new HD channels going up in the next two or three months. It should prove interesting! 2007 looks like it will be a huge year for HD as about 60 new national HD channels are anticipated being made available. Even Cartoon Network HD!

NFL Network HD had been listed for a short while on the Comcast website for my area. Unlike ESPN2 HD, NFL never showed up. Either it was a mistake, or they changed their minds. I believe some Comcast systems carry the channel full-time.

I heard about Cartoon Network preparing for HD a couple of years ago. Some of their original series were done but not broadcast in 16:9 (such as Courage the Cowardly Dog).

Maybe we will finally get CNN, TCM, The Weather Channel, and full-time NBA TV and OLN channels in HD next year.

keenan
08-11-06, 03:34 PM
It should prove interesting! 2007 looks like it will be a huge year for HD as about 60 new national HD channels are anticipated being made available. Even Cartoon Network HD!
I sure hope SciFi Channel is one of them, if you're talking 60, it would almost certainly have to be.

I don't expect it to show up on my Comcast system as they are sitting on their thumbs waiting until the state franchise legislation works itself out before they do anything here, but it will probably be on one of the 4 North American satellite services and that'll work for me.

Marcus Carr
08-11-06, 03:42 PM
60 more channels would just about cover the national channels on Expanded Basic.

sikoniko
08-11-06, 03:54 PM
i vote for spike tv, discovery times and history channel!

Hammerheadfred
08-11-06, 04:55 PM
I just wish they would give us ESPN2HD before football starts.

They claim that there is enough bandwith. Just that corporate hasn't told them they could add it. I refered them to the corporate website and the press release but I guess they didn't bother to look.

maxman
08-11-06, 05:37 PM
60 more channels would just about cover the national channels on Expanded Basic.

If 60 HD channels are coming in '07, expect them to begin showing up on Comcast around '09...

cavalierlwt
08-11-06, 05:42 PM
I could be wrong, I mean there's a good chance I'm wrong, but I think I read that Discovery channel, and Times, etc are not filmed in HD, on DiscoveryHD, and it's a seperate animal from the SD Discovery channels. Also, I believe SciFi channel is SD only,even though some it's shows are filmed in HD.
:(

JWhip
08-11-06, 05:53 PM
I can't say all that I have been told but.... I was told that at least in the Philly market and I assume nationwide, the number our HD channels will be at least doubled by this time next year. This assumes that no more analog deals are made. All new SD channels are to be digital only. Her ethat would be from about 17 to 34. No one can be too unhappy about that. I was told that the suits at Comcast have been shown that HD dramatically reduces churn and we are the people they want to keep as they can sell us more other stuff. I have been preaching this to them for a number of years now. They now see the light!!!

chitchatjf
08-11-06, 05:56 PM
It is my understanding that there will not be a full time NFL-HD channel added by Comcast for this season. It will be on for next year. However, the NFL HD games will be on as will the NFL HD games of the week. For me, this is fine and dandy. I was also told that the plans are for Comcast to donble their HD offerings, bandwidth permitting, by this time next year. It does not look like there is any chance that HDNet will be one of them unless Mark greatly reduces his fee demand. Believe me, I would not pay it either and I love HDNet. There will also be several new HD channels going up in the next two or three months. It should prove interesting! 2007 looks like it will be a huge year for HD as about 60 new national HD channels are anticipated being made available. Even Cartoon Network HD!

I had heard that negotiations were going better between Marc Cuban and comcast,and we could have HDNet by the End of the year.

JWhip
08-11-06, 06:00 PM
I think that is wishful thinking on Mark's part from what I have been told. Hopefully things will move forward soon but mark needs to drop his price considerably.

maxman
08-11-06, 06:11 PM
I can't say all that I have been told but.... I was told that at least in the Philly market and I assume nationwide, the number our HD channels will be at least doubled by this time next year. This assumes that no more analog deals are made. All new SD channels are to be digital only. Her ethat would be from about 17 to 34. No one can be too unhappy about that. I was told that the suits at Comcast have been shown that HD dramatically reduces churn and we are the people they want to keep as they can sell us more other stuff. I have been preaching this to them for a number of years now. They now see the light!!!

I would hope that someone is "seeing the light". I watch HD channels almost exclusively, and have tuned out of some shows that weren't (a country music awards show comes to mind). I watch "Good Morning America" as opposed to the competition, and now our local ABC News affiliate has gone HD, so goodby to the NBC & CBS locals. And I've let them know --- I wish all of us here would.

keenan
08-11-06, 06:48 PM
I could be wrong, I mean there's a good chance I'm wrong, but I think I read that Discovery channel, and Times, etc are not filmed in HD, on DiscoveryHD, and it's a seperate animal from the SD Discovery channels. Also, I believe SciFi channel is SD only,even though some it's shows are filmed in HD.
:(
SciFi channel is currently SD only, but practically all their original series are filmed for HD. "Stargate: Atlantis" on The Movie Network in Canada looks absolutely spectacular in HD.

maxman
08-11-06, 07:58 PM
JWhip, don't mean to make light of your contributions here - Comcast can be very frustrating when it comes to this HD stuff. I value your posts and insight greatly and look forward to ANYTHING you have to say on the subject. Many thanks.

totalownership
08-11-06, 09:21 PM
Where will they put the part-time NFL Channel? InHD-2 is going dark.

Mickey
INHD2 going dark?!?!?! How will I get my complimentary New York Yankees HD games!?!??!?!? :eek:
Well I really hope they pick up MSG-HD, or at least make it regional

bubba5
08-11-06, 09:31 PM
I can't say all that I have been told but.... I was told that at least in the Philly market and I assume nationwide, the number our HD channels will be at least doubled by this time next year. This assumes that no more analog deals are made. All new SD channels are to be digital only. Her ethat would be from about 17 to 34. No one can be too unhappy about that. I was told that the suits at Comcast have been shown that HD dramatically reduces churn and we are the people they want to keep as they can sell us more other stuff. I have been preaching this to them for a number of years now. They now see the light!!!

I'll believe it when I see it!

cavalierlwt
08-11-06, 09:37 PM
SciFi channel is currently SD only, but practically all their original series are filmed for HD. "Stargate: Atlantis" on The Movie Network in Canada looks absolutely spectacular in HD.

Yeah, Battlestar Galactica looks great in HD on UHD channel. Maybe I'm stereotyping too much, but IMHO the audience of the SciFi channel is very likely to be the demographic with the highest ownership rate of HDTVs. SciFi channel should get it's act together. Then again we're talking about the channel that cancelled 'Farscape' but wants to show wrestling! :eek:

keenan
08-11-06, 09:42 PM
Yeah, Battlestar Galactica looks great in HD on UHD channel. Maybe I'm stereotyping too much, but IMHO the audience of the SciFi channel is very likely to be the demographic with the highest ownership rate of HDTVs. SciFi channel should get it's act together. Then again we're talking about the channel that cancelled 'Farscape' but wants to show wrestling! :eek:
We're talking about NBC/Universal, who per hour of HDTV programming, seems to have more issues than all the other networks combined when it comes to their HD broadcasts. :D

SonyHD
08-11-06, 11:29 PM
Besides HDNet/HDNet Movies which I would love to see Comcast add, I also want to see the following added too: Realmadrid Televison (English), Setanta Sports North America, and some of the VOOM HD channels.

vj9999
08-11-06, 11:56 PM
Besides HDNet/HDNet Movies which I would love to see Comcast add, I also want to see the following added too: Realmadrid Televison (English), Setanta Sports North America, and some of the VOOM HD channels.

I'd take ESPN Deportes over Rea$ Madrid TV.

Marcus Carr
08-12-06, 12:15 AM
SciFi channel is currently SD only, but practically all their original series are filmed for HD. "Stargate: Atlantis" on The Movie Network in Canada looks absolutely spectacular in HD.

Not sure why they aren't putting more Sci Fi shows on UHD.

GeorgeLV
08-12-06, 12:25 AM
Not sure why they aren't putting more Sci Fi shows on UHD.

NBC-Universal not owning Stargate probably has a bit to do with it. (FYI, it's owned by MGM, who in turn is owned include Sony and Comcast.)

keenan
08-12-06, 04:21 AM
NBC-Universal not owning Stargate probably has a bit to do with it. (FYI, it's owned by MGM, who in turn is owned include Sony and Comcast.)
That's it, it all boils down to who owns it and who has distribution rights. Just because it originally airs on a particular NBC/UNI channel doesn't mean NBC/UNI can air it on any of their other channels.

raidbuck
08-12-06, 08:53 AM
The next HD channel for Comcast?

NFL Network HD on Saturday (Aug 12th) has a recorded exhibition game. It is on 256 in the Baltimore area. So that's it.

Rich N.

JWhip
08-12-06, 09:49 AM
I'll believe it when I see it!


Keep your eyes open Bubba!

Marcus Carr
08-12-06, 10:43 AM
The next HD channel for Comcast?

NFL Network HD on Saturday (Aug 12th) has a recorded exhibition game. It is on 256 in the Baltimore area. So that's it.

Rich N.

Nothing in Baltimore City.

bubba5
08-12-06, 10:44 AM
Keep your eyes open Bubba!

I'll try but I know here in North Jersey im tired of hearing about bandwidth issues. We cant even get the NHL/NBA/MLB packages, channel are not available here. The glass is always half empty in this neck of the woods. If we get 1 chennel in the next year without losing any that would be lucky.

Ou8thisSN
08-12-06, 01:18 PM
nothing in nashville

jrusnak
08-12-06, 03:07 PM
I'll try but I know here in North Jersey im tired of hearing about bandwidth issues. We cant even get the NHL/NBA/MLB packages, channel are not available here. The glass is always half empty in this neck of the woods. If we get 1 chennel in the next year without losing any that would be lucky.

Agreed. Also in North NJ, and we only got TNT-HD a month ago! You'd think that such a high, densely populated area wouldn't be on the tail end of any new adds, but that seems to be the case here. I would LOVE to hear that we'd have UHD in time for the FIREFLY HD broadcasts starting sometime in September. But past Comcast performance tells me otherwise.

kevin j
08-12-06, 08:36 PM
No NFL-HD here in the Chicago area.

Ken H
08-12-06, 08:53 PM
NFL HD may not be a full time channel, but you will definitely see the live games on Comcast.

kevin j
08-12-06, 09:01 PM
I was hoping to see the HD replays on Comcast but i guess we're sol on that.[the pq on the regular NFL Network channel's pretty bad so having the HD channel'd be an obvious improvement imho]

Marcus Carr
08-12-06, 10:49 PM
I got their preseason games last year, but apparently not this time.

JackStraw1
08-12-06, 11:04 PM
Will Comcast of Garden State air any NFL Network games in HD. INHD will be down to one channel when the NFL Network airs it's first game on Thanksgiving. The real nerve is Comcast charges extra for the digital sports package yet refuses to air the NFL Network in HD. I know Comncast can sell commercial time on the channel because they run their own spots on it.

Ken H
08-12-06, 11:12 PM
Will Comcast of Garden State air any NFL Network games in HD.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8196953

raidbuck
08-13-06, 10:27 AM
Nothing in Baltimore City.

My bad, I'm in Harford County and was watching it yesterday morning on 256. And the message when I turn on the TV says "NFL Network in HD on 256". I thought the channels were the same in the Baltimore City, Baltimore County and Harford County.

However, after the game 256 didn't simulcast the NFL Network, so maybe I'm wrong, and just the games are being added. The Comcast website said that NFL HD shows will be on INHD.

Rich N.

chitchatjf
08-13-06, 12:10 PM
Will Comcast of Garden State air any NFL Network games in HD. INHD will be down to one channel when the NFL Network airs it's first game on Thanksgiving. The real nerve is Comcast charges extra for the digital sports package yet refuses to air the NFL Network in HD. I know Comncast can sell commercial time on the channel because they run their own spots on it.

I don't know of your neck of the woods but in Boston NFL Network is also part of the "Digital plus" tier. Most digital subscribers get at least this tier,but I was under the impression NFL is shooting for extended basic. (in order to play the Nov games)

TravelFan1
08-14-06, 09:53 AM
"The Comcast website said that NFL HD shows will be on INHD." - raidbuck, do you mind posting the link to this info here? I wasn't able to find it, even when I entered a zip code in your area(Bel Air). Thanks.

GoIrish
08-14-06, 10:32 AM
"The Comcast website said that NFL HD shows will be on INHD." - raidbuck, do you mind posting the link to this info here? I wasn't able to find it, even when I entered a zip code in your area(Bel Air). Thanks.

While I am not aware of the INHD message either, I don't want to see unnecessary confusion created if that gets posted. In the Baltimore area where Raidbuck and I are they have a HD Special Events channel, 256, which will be home to the NFLNet HD games this year.

In other markets where they may not have such a channel, perhaps they have the liberty to use INHD.

GoIrish

raidbuck
08-14-06, 11:09 AM
"The Comcast website said that NFL HD shows will be on INHD." - raidbuck, do you mind posting the link to this info here? I wasn't able to find it, even when I entered a zip code in your area(Bel Air). Thanks.

Thanks to goirish for clarifying. I saw that when I went to Comcast and hit on an HD link. I am sorry, I can't seem to find it again.

Anyway, all is well, we'll see the games in HD.

And we get to keep INHD2. The HD quality of INHD is excellent. Except for major sports, though, the content is slipping. (Ive lost my MOJO).

Thanks,

Rich N.

Marcus Carr
08-14-06, 12:09 PM
While I am not aware of the INHD message either, I don't want to see unnecessary confusion created if that gets posted. In the Baltimore area where Raidbuck and I are they have a HD Special Events channel, 256, which will be home to the NFLNet HD games this year.

In other markets where they may not have such a channel, perhaps they have the liberty to use INHD.

GoIrish

Baltimore City has an HD Special Events channel at 254, but no games so far. Nothing on INHD either. Looks like they have dropped the ball (no pun intended). Maybe something will show up by November.

Gary*w*
08-14-06, 12:15 PM
Comcast has the tendancy to wait until the very last possible second to add channels. I wouldn't expect to see NFLHD sometime early Thanksgiving morning.

GoIrish
08-14-06, 12:23 PM
Baltimore City has an HD Special Events channel at 254, but no games so far. Nothing on INHD either. Looks like they have dropped the ball (no pun intended). Maybe something will show up by November.

I understand Baltimore City will be ready for tomorrow (Tuesdays) game and is set for the rest of the season as well.

GoIrish

Marcus Carr
08-14-06, 01:15 PM
I understand Baltimore City will be ready for tomorrow (Tuesdays) game and is set for the rest of the season as well.

GoIrish

Thanks.

As for the INHD message, from www.comcast.com, if you go to Products/Digital Cable/HDTV/Click to Launch/See it All/NFL Network HD (or something like that), there is the message "NFL Network HD programming is available on INHD." The website is often not entirely accurate.

JoeInNVa
08-14-06, 01:26 PM
Nothing new in Alexandria, VA since ESPN2 went live.

hdtvjunkie247
08-14-06, 03:19 PM
Anybody know the situation in NJ, regarding NFL-HD? So far a few games have been listed as being HD on the main channel, but I've yet to see them on INHD/INHD2, let alone a separate channel.

Addicted2HD4Now
08-14-06, 04:23 PM
Thanks.

As for the INHD message, from www.comcast.com, if you go to Products/Digital Cable/HDTV/Click to Launch/See it All/NFL Network HD (or something like that), there is the message "NFL Network HD programming is available on INHD." The website is often not entirely accurate.

They didn't show the Jets/Bucs game on Saturday morning at 10AM which was on NFL SD. I didn't really care about the game, just was curious if Comcast was on the ball or not.

jpco
08-14-06, 08:37 PM
If they are going to preempt INHD, I'd imagine it would be for the regular season stuff or maybe live preseason HD games. There's a very small fan base that is interested in preseason games as programming.

Marcus Carr
08-15-06, 01:40 AM
From the Comcast Vicepresident of the MidAtlantic section:

Hi Eldorado,

The plans are for now we will begin carrying the live games from the NFL Channel in HD (channel 256) with the hopes that soon we’ll have a contract that will allow us to carry the channel full-time in HD. I know corporate is working diligently on this contract. We should have everything ready to go later this week.

http://www.hdtvoice.com/voice/showthread.php?t=26957

AikenGhoti
08-15-06, 04:07 AM
So do some Comcast markets get UHD? We had it for about four days here a while back, and BSG was glorious. Then poof, gone.

I'm sure people love their sports, but god, it seems like about a third of the channels on my lineup are sports. Couldn't we drop a few and get something a little less ephemeral?

maxman
08-15-06, 07:26 AM
UHD here in S. Jersey.

NortheasternPJ
08-15-06, 07:27 AM
So do some Comcast markets get UHD? We had it for about four days here a while back, and BSG was glorious. Then poof, gone.

Boston still has it. It was never removed after the Winter Olympics. I can't say there's much on there though outside of a Law and Order: SVU or BG. I'm getting sick of watching stuff like Jaws 2.

Addicted2HD4Now
08-15-06, 10:34 AM
I'm sure people love their sports, but god, it seems like about a third of the channels on my lineup are sports. Couldn't we drop a few and get something a little less ephemeral?

Umm, no? :D

For those that are not as interested in sports, or not at all, it's probably hard to understand, but sports is the driving force in HD.

JDLIVE
08-15-06, 01:20 PM
I'm sure people love their sports, but god, it seems like about a third of the channels on my lineup are sports. Couldn't we drop a few and get something a little less ephemeral?

What do you suggest? Aside from HDNET, there's not really much of substance to be added, we're talking about niche channels like National Geo, Food Channel, etc. Until more HD channels come online, there's really not a heck of a lot to be added.

jrusnak
08-15-06, 01:29 PM
What do you suggest? Aside from HDNET, there's not really much of substance to be added, we're talking about niche channels like National Geo, Food Channel, etc. Until more HD channels come online, there's really not a heck of a lot to be added.

Sure there are. But the lion's share of them are VOOM channels, which Comcast will never show.

Marcus Carr
08-15-06, 01:49 PM
What do you suggest? Aside from HDNET, there's not really much of substance to be added, we're talking about niche channels like National Geo, Food Channel, etc. Until more HD channels come online, there's really not a heck of a lot to be added.

What channels aren't "niche" channels?

sf49ersnfl
08-15-06, 02:42 PM
sports are what benifits most from hd, the more sports channels the better.

Addicted2HD4Now
08-15-06, 04:00 PM
What channels aren't "niche" channels?

Most channels are niche channels except for variety channels like INHD and HDNet (for HD anyway since that's what we're talking about). RSNs are niche channels too. "Niche" is not the problem, it's the quantity of distinctly different programming available on the channels as to whether or not its worth adding. At least RSNs guarantee a different game each night when it comes to baseball and 3 to 4 times a week when it comes to basketball. HD channels in their early going have very little different content to offer (e.g. MHD -- which is getting better, NGCHD, Food HD, etc.).

Marcus Carr
08-15-06, 05:03 PM
NFL Network HD is now on in Baltimore City, channel 256. :cool:

210 ABC
211 NBC
212 CBS
213 FOX
214 WB
220 PBS
225 Discovery
226 INHD
227 INHD2
249 TNT
250 Universal
251 CSN
252 ESPN
253 ESPN2
254 HD-SE (PPV)
256 NFL


I'm ready for those niche channels now.

chitchatjf
08-15-06, 05:05 PM
Sure there are. But the lion's share of them are VOOM channels, which Comcast will never show.

says Who?

maxman
08-15-06, 05:09 PM
...it's the quantity of distinctly different programming available on the channels as to whether or not its worth adding...

Personally I can't believe anyone here is debating the merits of whether or not an HD channel is "worth adding". The whole idea is for ALL channels to be HD in the future, so let's hope to see them as soon as possible as they materialize. Geez!

TulsaCoker
08-15-06, 05:41 PM
The idea may be but all channels will not be HD in the future.

MU EE
08-15-06, 05:45 PM
Hello all, This is kind of off topic, but my local thread doesn't really talk much about cable, mostly OTA, and I don't know of another major thread dedicated to comcast, so here it goes.

I have comcast in the KC Mo area, and have the Moto dual tuner box. I have been having lots of problems with macroblocking, loss of sound and even had the receiver mute itself numerous times in one 10 to 20 minute period. I have had two different techs to my house and have looked at everything from splitters to cable connections to changing the box several times with no improvement. When I had service installed they ran a new line from the neighborhood node to my house. What could be the problem? Is it the box, or something else. I notice it mostly on TNT-HD, and the Local HD's, but sometimes on ESPNHD and HBO-HD.

Thanks

mike greer
08-15-06, 05:52 PM
With the talk of all this new HD for Comcast I figured this was an appropriate place to ask....

Has Comcast abandoned the idea of not screwing with the HD quality?

James Hill in the Salt Lake City local thread is claiming that they have lowered the quality here in SLC.... Anyone from Salt Lake noticed?

What about other Comcast market where they are adding new HD channels? Are they still full resolution and full bandwidth or are the good old days really gone?

keenan
08-15-06, 07:25 PM
Hello all, This is kind of off topic, but my local thread doesn't really talk much about cable, mostly OTA, and I don't know of another major thread dedicated to comcast, so here it goes.

I have comcast in the KC Mo area, and have the Moto dual tuner box. I have been having lots of problems with macroblocking, loss of sound and even had the receiver mute itself numerous times in one 10 to 20 minute period. I have had two different techs to my house and have looked at everything from splitters to cable connections to changing the box several times with no improvement. When I had service installed they ran a new line from the neighborhood node to my house. What could be the problem? Is it the box, or something else. I notice it mostly on TNT-HD, and the Local HD's, but sometimes on ESPNHD and HBO-HD.

Thanks
Keep after Comcast to get it fixed, insist on credits against your bill for every occurrence, or day, that the unit works improperly. It sounds like a signal problem. You can try the Moto DVR threads at the below links,

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=604142
Official Comcast 3412 & 3416 STB Discussion - AVS Forum

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=464986
Official Comcast 6412 w/ iGuide Discussion - AVS Forum

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=558602
New moto 6412 with HDMI and SATA - AVS Forum

maxman
08-15-06, 08:35 PM
With the talk of all this new HD for Comcast I figured this was an appropriate place to ask....

Has Comcast abandoned the idea of not screwing with the HD quality?

James Hill in the Salt Lake City local thread is claiming that they have lowered the quality here in SLC.... Anyone from Salt Lake noticed?

What about other Comcast market where they are adding new HD channels? Are they still full resolution and full bandwidth or are the good old days really gone?

I don't know how to tell, but it sure seems like they've compressed the audio here in S. Jersey, especially some of the concerts on the INHD channels.

SonyHD
08-15-06, 10:33 PM
Marucs, NFL Network HD is great news! I'm in the Boston area and the New England region is one of Comcast's better areas. Hopefully they'll be able to add this channel soon. Still hoping for HDnet, Realmadrid TV and Setanta Sports.

Marcus Carr
08-16-06, 02:19 AM
Marucs, NFL Network HD is great news! I'm in the Boston area and the New England region is one of Comcast's better areas. Hopefully they'll be able to add this channel soon. Still hoping for HDnet, Realmadrid TV and Setanta Sports.

At this time it looks like they are only showing the actual HD programs. The channel went black after today's HD game. But that's good enough for now. (Of course the SD channel is still available 24 hours a day.)

jrusnak
08-16-06, 01:02 PM
says Who?

VOOM is a package deal, as far as i know. So they can't just add, say. The Monster Channel, without adding other VOOM channels as well. And considering that we don't even have UHD or HDNet, it's rather unlikely that Comcast will offer VOOM.

jrusnak
08-16-06, 01:04 PM
sports are what benifits most from hd, the more sports channels the better.

Personally, I feel that movies benefit the most. (This morning's broadcast of the original PINK PANTHER looked amazing!) The more movie channels the better!

Marcus Carr
08-16-06, 01:47 PM
Personally, I feel that movies benefit the most. (This morning's broadcast of the original PINK PANTHER looked amazing!) The more movie channels the better!

I would say that nature shows shot on video benefit the most, picture wise. Gives you that "you are there" feeling.

JWhip
08-16-06, 01:53 PM
Maxman, the can't compress the audio only and not the video.

pappy97
08-16-06, 02:01 PM
NFL Network HD is now on in Baltimore City, channel 256. :cool:

210 ABC
211 NBC
212 CBS
213 FOX
214 WB
220 PBS
225 Discovery
226 INHD
227 INHD2
249 TNT
250 Universal
251 CSN
252 ESPN
253 ESPN2
254 HD-SE (PPV)
256 NFL


I'm ready for those niche channels now.

I don't know about the rest of you, but before they add another channel, how about making sure everyone has this lineup.

I am in the SF Bay Area and we don't have on our Comcast System:

WB (soon to be CW) in HD

TNT- HD

Universal HD

CSN (I assume Comcast Sports Network??) HD

and a dedicated channel for the NFL Network HD.

Once every system that is capable of having this lineup (no I don't live in one of those areas where the cable system hasn't been upgraded for 30 years) has it, only then should we talk about adding another channel.

nikeykid
08-16-06, 02:19 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but before they add another channel, how about making sure everyone has this lineup.

I am in the SF Bay Area and we don't have on our Comcast System:

WB (soon to be CW) in HD

TNT- HD

Universal HD

CSN (I assume Comcast Sports Network??) HD

and a dedicated channel for the NFL Network HD.

Once every system that is capable of having this lineup (no I don't live in one of those areas where the cable system hasn't been upgraded for 30 years) has it, only then should we talk about adding another channel.

i live in bay area too, and i am missing the same channels on my 860mhz system, yet i don't think the rest of the nation should be punished because our regional comcast folk decided competition wasn't strong enough, or demand isn't strong enough to warrant upgrades. iow, its our problem, not theirs. you are channeling ur frustration in the wrong place.

davecramer74
08-16-06, 04:58 PM
Im in Vallejo, CA (bay area) and just noticed Fox Sports Bay area was added to my HD lineup. Also, did you notice there is 2 NFL channels. One of them may be HD. I have one on 180 and one on 410 or something like that. Its in the 400's. May want to check that out.

Here's my current lineup per their website.

http://comcast.com/Support/ChannelGuide.ashx?LocResult&Zip=94591

nikeykid
08-16-06, 05:24 PM
Im in Vallejo, CA (bay area) and just noticed Fox Sports Bay area was added to my HD lineup. Also, did you notice there is 2 NFL channels. One of them may be HD. I have one on 180 and one on 410 or something like that. Its in the 400's. May want to check that out.

Here's my current lineup per their website.

http://comcast.com/Support/ChannelGuide.ashx?LocResult&Zip=94591

HD channels are in the 700s. NFL network HD is not up and running on our systems, but it should be when they actually have a live game that counts. My guess is they will use 725, the special events channel that is temporarily housing ESPN2HD. so yes, in the bay area, we have two ESPN2HD channels, how lucky we are.

chitchatjf
08-16-06, 05:43 PM
VOOM is a package deal, as far as i know. So they can't just add, say. The Monster Channel, without adding other VOOM channels as well. And considering that we don't even have UHD or HDNet, it's rather unlikely that Comcast will offer VOOM.

some markets MAY have the bandwidth. :)

keenan
08-16-06, 06:54 PM
Im in Vallejo, CA (bay area) and just noticed Fox Sports Bay area was added to my HD lineup. Also, did you notice there is 2 NFL channels. One of them may be HD. I have one on 180 and one on 410 or something like that. Its in the 400's. May want to check that out.

Here's my current lineup per their website.

http://comcast.com/Support/ChannelGuide.ashx?LocResult&Zip=94591
When was this added? When you say Fox Sports Bay area, do you mean INHD? There is no stand-alone FSNBA-HD channel.

bobby94928
08-16-06, 08:36 PM
When I go to his link for his line-up, it shows FSBA on channel 720, which is INHD2. Nothing has changed here.

AikenGhoti
08-16-06, 09:43 PM
What do you suggest? Aside from HDNET, there's not really much of substance to be added, we're talking about niche channels like National Geo, Food Channel, etc. Until more HD channels come online, there's really not a heck of a lot to be added.
Well, I'd like UHD back, for one. I think INHD2 is gone entirely, but I wouldn't mind getting it back if it's not. HDNet would be nice, from what I hear about it. I wish SciFi would go HD.

Whoever said sports benefit most from HD has a rather narrow focus if they genuinely believe that. Most movies, action-oriented TV series, science fiction, nature shows, animation, and so on, all benefit at least as much from HD. I know seeing and following that ball as it goes through the air is important to you, but *I* want to see all the stars in the sky, the leaves on the trees, the swirls coming out the back of the bullets in the Matrix, and every hair on Jessica Alba's head. :)

For some of us, there's more to home entertainment than watching a ball move around our screen with people chasing it in various ways. :)

babrown92
08-16-06, 10:26 PM
I just looked at the localized listings of channels on comcasts website, and it looks like MHD and UHD are being added on the 28th of this month, bad part is that it looks like we are loosing INHD2 and ESPN2. Not too concerned with losing INHD2, but ESPN2 is going to suck for college football.

Hopefully they just left it out of the listings, as MHD is going to be on the same channel that INHD2 was on, but UHD is going to be on a different channel than the one ESPN2 is on.

Tucson, AZ

Addicted2HD4Now
08-16-06, 10:44 PM
*I* want to see all the stars in the sky, the leaves on the trees

Then go outside :D

maxman
08-16-06, 10:48 PM
I just looked at the localized listings of channels on comcasts website, and it looks like MHD and UHD are being added on the 28th of this month, bad part is that it looks like we are loosing INHD2 and ESPN2. Not too concerned with losing INHD2, but ESPN2 is going to suck for college football.

Hopefully they just left it out of the listings, as MHD is going to be on the same channel that INHD2 was on, but UHD is going to be on a different channel than the one ESPN2 is on.

You're not helping us if you don't tell us WHERE YOU'RE LOCATED! :rolleyes:

keenan
08-16-06, 10:48 PM
When I go to his link for his line-up, it shows FSBA on channel 720, which is INHD2. Nothing has changed here.
That's what I figured. For a good laugh stick zipcode 95404 in that page and see the pathetic offering we have compared to Vallejo. :p

..or anywhere Comcast is for that matter.. :rolleyes:

Addicted2HD4Now
08-16-06, 10:51 PM
Im in Vallejo, CA (bay area) and just noticed Fox Sports Bay area was added to my HD lineup. Also, did you notice there is 2 NFL channels. One of them may be HD. I have one on 180 and one on 410 or something like that. Its in the 400's. May want to check that out.

Here's my current lineup per their website.

http://comcast.com/Support/ChannelGuide.ashx?LocResult&Zip=94591

I doubt it. We have one on 180 and another on 275 and neither is HD. They're both just digital SD and probably connected to particular packages.

jrusnak
08-16-06, 10:54 PM
some markets MAY have the bandwidth. :)

I don't think it's a bandwidth issue as much as a financial one (which is one reason we're still wishing for the HD-Net channels!)

pappy97
08-17-06, 12:01 AM
i live in bay area too, and i am missing the same channels on my 860mhz system, yet i don't think the rest of the nation should be punished because our regional comcast folk decided competition wasn't strong enough, or demand isn't strong enough to warrant upgrades. iow, its our problem, not theirs. you are channeling ur frustration in the wrong place.

I am just thinking that Comcast needs to make the HD offerings as consistent as possible before adding channels. As it is these other markets have 5 other networks we don't get, should it really become a half-dozen, or more, while we lag behind?

If Comcast wants to compete with DBS, they need to have consistent offerings among the various regions.

Addicted2HD4Now
08-17-06, 09:09 AM
I am just thinking that Comcast needs to make the HD offerings as consistent as possible before adding channels. As it is these other markets have 5 other networks we don't get, should it really become a half-dozen, or more, while we lag behind?

If Comcast wants to compete with DBS, they need to have consistent offerings among the various regions.

Ever think that the engineers can bring your system up to speed while those who handle/negotiate channel agreements continue to do their job and get rights to new HD channels? These negotiations can take long periods of time and putting a hiatus on acquiring more HD to distribute is ridiculous.

Just think, the longer it takes for them to get your system up to speed, the more channels you'll have to look forward to :)

babrown92
08-17-06, 10:38 AM
I just looked at the localized listings of channels on comcasts website, and it looks like MHD and UHD are being added on the 28th of this month, bad part is that it looks like we are loosing INHD2 and ESPN2. Not too concerned with losing INHD2, but ESPN2 is going to suck for college football.

Hopefully they just left it out of the listings, as MHD is going to be on the same channel that INHD2 was on, but UHD is going to be on a different channel than the one ESPN2 is on.

Tucson, AZ

I emailed comcast to see if INHD2 and ESPN2 were being removed in place of MHD and UHD. Here was their reply:

Thank you for your excellent question. INHD and INHD2 are going away and being
replaced with those channels, but ESPN2 HD should not be going anywhere as far
as I know.


Both INHD channels gone? Has anyone else heard of INHD being removed?

scottro
08-17-06, 10:47 AM
That's what I figured. For a good laugh stick zipcode 95404 in that page and see the pathetic offering we have compared to Vallejo. :p

..or anywhere Comcast is for that matter.. :rolleyes:

I'm with you Keenan. My particular system in Pittsburgh has 7 basic channels too, plus the premiums available, although we do have Showtime in the premiums.
We have INHD1, you have an extra local.

This actually makes me feel better.
Misery loves company. :p

mike greer
08-17-06, 11:01 AM
With the talk of all this new HD for Comcast I figured this was an appropriate place to ask....

Has Comcast abandoned the idea of not screwing with the HD quality?

James Hill in the Salt Lake City local thread is claiming that they have lowered the quality here in SLC.... Anyone from Salt Lake noticed?

What about other Comcast market where they are adding new HD channels? Are they still full resolution and full bandwidth or are the good old days really gone?

Anyone?

Also - how accurate is Comcast web site for available programming? Maybe they only update the database once in a while?

JDLIVE
08-17-06, 01:16 PM
What channels aren't "niche" channels?

ABC, NBC, Fox, CBS, etc. A lot of the sports and movie channels could be called niche as well, though I'd argue the "niche" they cover is bigger.

Marcus Carr
08-17-06, 01:47 PM
ABC, NBC, Fox, CBS, etc.

Most of us already have those channels. Niche channels are about all that's left to add.

keenan
08-17-06, 02:53 PM
I'm with you Keenan. My particular system in Pittsburgh has 7 basic channels too, plus the premiums available, although we do have Showtime in the premiums.
We have INHD1, you have an extra local.

This actually makes me feel better.
Misery loves company. :p
So you have one more channel than Santa Rosa? I'm beginning to think Santa Rosa is the worst Comcast system in the country.
Out here we call these low bandwidth/low channel count systems, "ghetto systems" they're so pathetic and Comcast has essentially redlined them.

QZ1
08-17-06, 03:07 PM
I emailed comcast to see if INHD2 and ESPN2 were being removed in place of MHD and UHD. Here was their reply:

Thank you for your excellent question. INHD and INHD2 are going away and being
replaced with those channels, but ESPN2 HD should not be going anywhere as far
as I know.


Both INHD channels gone? Has anyone else heard of INHD being removed?
We have MHD and UHD, (and ESPN2, for that matter), and we retained INHD 1 & 2.

I did here of some areas that were going to lose INHD 2, but not both.

JimsArcade
08-17-06, 03:10 PM
We have MHD and UHD, (and ESPN2, for that matter), and we retained INHD 1 & 2.

I did here of some areas that were going to lose INHD 2, but not both. Given that they're replacing UPN and WB with CW pretty soon, Comcast doesn't have an immediate need to drop any HD channels right away in SE PA.

keenan
08-17-06, 03:15 PM
Ever think that the engineers can bring your system up to speed while those who handle/negotiate channel agreements continue to do their job and get rights to new HD channels? These negotiations can take long periods of time and putting a hiatus on acquiring more HD to distribute is ridiculous.

Just think, the longer it takes for them to get your system up to speed, the more channels you'll have to look forward to :)
That's if they even plan to upgrade it. Here in the SF bay area 550 MHz systems are staying 550 MHz systems and when, and only when, analog channels are moved to digital will there be more bandwidth for HD and digital channels. Comcast has already stated this will happen, but not for quite some time, maybe even years.

Plus, in states like California where there is pending legislation to move to statewide franchises as opposed to local, in many areas Comcast is simply doing nothing and just waiting for the outcome of that legislation, if passed they won't have to even deal with the local municipality anymore.

The CTO of Comcast stated over a year ago that over 95% of their systems have had upgrades completed and there wouldn't be anymore major upgrading done. So unless you are in an already upgraded area, or fall in that 5%, then you're pretty much stuck with what you have until Comcast moves analog to digital, which will be a very slow process as it will cause a lot of pain and suffering for the over 50% of Comcast's subs who are analog only. Analog subs that are Comcast's bread and butter, so don't expect Comcast to upset them too much very soon. Analog/Digital simulcast won't work on these systems as there is literally no bandwidth to do it.

scottro
08-17-06, 03:25 PM
So you have one more channel than Santa Rosa? I'm beginning to think Santa Rosa is the worst Comcast system in the country.
Out here we call these low bandwidth/low channel count systems, "ghetto systems" they're so pathetic and Comcast has essentially redlined them.

<singing> I have more channels than you do!! :D

Just kidding. If it makes you feel any better I hardly watch Showtime.
If Santa Rosa is the worst then we're a close second. What I hate is going to my buddy's house just minutes away who also has Comcast but has the full complement of HD offerings.

keenan
08-17-06, 03:32 PM
<singing> I have more channels than you do!! :D

Just kidding. If it makes you feel any better I hardly watch Showtime.
If Santa Rosa is the worst then we're a close second. What I hate is going to my buddy's house just minutes away who also has Comcast but has the full complement of HD offerings.
What's worse than that is the knowledge that I'm paying the same amount each month as a sub in an upgraded area minutes away. :mad:

maxman
08-17-06, 08:47 PM
...how accurate is Comcast web site for available programming? Maybe they only update the database once in a while?

Once a year? For a multi-billion dollar company their website S-U-X. I've e-mailed them several times about it. I've had the SA8300HD box for over a year now and there's still no mention that it is even available. And new HD channels still aren't listed weeks after they're active.

JDLIVE
08-18-06, 02:13 PM
Most of us already have those channels. Niche channels are about all that's left to add.

Wow, I wish I had thought of that! :D

nikeykid
08-20-06, 04:44 AM
bay area update:

looks like NFL-HD officially moved to 725, previously the special events channel. the guide has changed the name to NFLHD, and i see three recorded exhibition games scheduled for 8am tomorrow morning.

TNT-HD will be coming to our systems (except keenans probably :( ) on 9/20 on 726. finally some noise comcast! INHD2 will be disappearing as a result. i would definitely give up inhd2 for NBA on TNT-HD. I would assume FSN-BA moves to INHD or NFLHD.

sikoniko
08-20-06, 08:12 AM
Here in JAcksonville, Fl 184 is NFLHD. has yet to show anything though. is this a part time channel like fsnhd?

also, sometime soon 172 is supposed to be replaced by mhd. or so says the 'my channel lineup' on comcast.com. ill miss the 'in theaters' program on inhd2.

flyers97
08-20-06, 09:14 AM
here in Chambersburg we are in South Central Pa NFLHD is listed in guide on channel 206 were INHD is but is still showing INHD programing

hey JWHIP Chambersburg did not get MHD,UHD or CSTV,tennis channel are we getting these channels do you know?

ChrisHman
08-20-06, 10:14 AM
Comcast Atlanta. NFL Network appears to have replaced INHD1 with programming beginging at 11 eastern. No other channels added or moved at this time.

JimsArcade
08-20-06, 10:39 AM
In Southeast PA, our INHD was "replaced" by NFLHD as well. I was wondering why all of the information for that channel disappeared for the past couple of days, yet INHD programming was still there. Is this move on INHD's/NFLHD's part, or is Comcast manually preempting INHD programming and just calling the channel NFLHD? Considering we're losing a hi-def channel very soon (when WB-HD and UPN-HD are replaced by CW-HD), I don't see why we'd start to need losing HD channels just yet.

As long as INHD programming isn't replaced completely, I'm OK with this. I really dig the MOJO stuff, and everything on INHD is repeated often (though nowhere near as much as MHD).

ak3883
08-20-06, 10:39 AM
Same deal in Philly with NFLHD. It looks like just the name has changed though, the guide data looks to be for INHD, and the programs themselves are still INHD programming. Yesterday the guide/name was blank.

I don't understand why they would replace INHD and not INHD2 since they have announced they are scaling back... not like we don't have the bandwidth here, we have room.

swanlee
08-20-06, 11:20 AM
Yea I'm in Atlanta to NFLHD just turned on replacing INHD, kind of blows cause I really liked INHD. How is HD going to catch on if they just swap out channels? They need to just keep adding channels.

kevin j
08-20-06, 11:35 AM
I believe they're only pre empting the INHD programming to show the NFL-HD games then INHD'LL return soon after[like INHD2 did with the Game Of The Week].

Marcus Carr
08-20-06, 11:41 AM
NFL HD looks good on 256. But INHD on 226 has a lot of macroblocking. They may have reduced bandwidth to INHD during the game. I hope this doesn't happen if NFL HD becomes full-time. They could drop INHD2.

The strange thing is that when boxing is on Special Events there is no effect on INHD.

nikeykid
08-20-06, 11:46 AM
NFL HD looks good on 256. But INHD on 226 has a lot of macroblocking. They may have reduced bandwidth to INHD during the game. I hope this doesn't happen if NFL HD becomes full-time. They could drop INHD2.

The strange thing is that when boxing is on Special Events there is no effect on INHD.

inhd (tennis) looks great here, no blocking, even while the NFLHD game is on. maybe they are still tweaking with ur system.

ptlurking
08-20-06, 12:12 PM
NFL HD looks good on 256. But INHD on 226 has a lot of macroblocking. They may have reduced bandwidth to INHD during the game. I hope this doesn't happen if NFL HD becomes full-time. They could drop INHD2.

The strange thing is that when boxing is on Special Events there is no effect on INHD.

Marcus:
I just switched over from the PGA championship after reading your post.
I see the same issues with the Tennis on INHD.

NFLHD does look very, very nice!

Nothing like Football (College or Pro) in HD!!! :D

ak3883
08-20-06, 12:35 PM
Checking schedules of both networks it seems like they will be putting NFL HD feed on INHD when they show live games, then back to regular INHD programming when the games are over. I checked and the schedule from 11am-5pm today is what is displayed on NFL networks website, and the schedule from 5pm onwards is what is displayed on INHD's website.

I cannot complain with that, honestly I don't think it's worth wasting an HD channel space for a network that shows only a couple HD NFL games a week, and keep this "channel" INHD for the rest of the time. I don't know if I could ask for any more, this is a really good arrangement IMO.

sikoniko
08-20-06, 01:41 PM
are you happy sports people? another part time channel, except this one replays games that have already been on. its like knowing what your getting for christmas before you open the package.

noreaster0
08-20-06, 03:24 PM
NFL HD looks good on 256. But INHD on 226 has a lot of macroblocking. They may have reduced bandwidth to INHD during the game. I hope this doesn't happen if NFL HD becomes full-time. They could drop INHD2.

The strange thing is that when boxing is on Special Events there is no effect on INHD.

You hit the nail on the head Marcus. iNHD is cramming/rate shaping 3 HD signals onto their transponder for this NFL presentation instead of the usual 2. They do the same thing for Game Of The Week on iNHD2.

Ken H
08-20-06, 03:32 PM
are you happy sports people? another part time channel, except this one replays games that have already been on. its like knowing what your getting for christmas before you open the package.
It's preseason, who cares. The only thing that really matters is Comcast subs will get the 8 NFL Network games not available anywhere else, and they will get them in HD.

pappy97
08-20-06, 04:03 PM
Ever think that the engineers can bring your system up to speed while those who handle/negotiate channel agreements continue to do their job and get rights to new HD channels? These negotiations can take long periods of time and putting a hiatus on acquiring more HD to distribute is ridiculous.

Just think, the longer it takes for them to get your system up to speed, the more channels you'll have to look forward to :)

My system in Newark, CA is up to speed, it's just that Comcast in the Bay Area doesn't think that we should get those HD channels that most of you take for granted.

Now if I lived in the crappy part of Sunnyvale, CA, I'd agree with you, but I live in a place where they have the room to put more HD on, but don't do so.

BobColby
08-20-06, 05:24 PM
Here in Boston, INHD/881 was pre-empted (by NFL) until 5. There was no indication of this on the schedule, so I have no indication of how often they plan to do this.

Ken H
08-20-06, 05:50 PM
Here in Boston, INHD/881 was pre-empted (by NFL) until 5. There was no indication of this on the schedule, so I have no indication of how often they plan to do this.
I don't think anyone else does either.

pcgraffy
08-20-06, 06:02 PM
Comcast Atlanta here - Channel 876 has been switched on the guide from INHD to NFLHD.

INHD2 is still listed and broadcasting on 877.

Marcus Carr
08-20-06, 07:40 PM
This Vikings-Steelers game (rebroadcast) on NFL Network looks amazing. It's the best looking game I've seen all summer. If their own games look this good they will be the best on any network.

Serafica
08-20-06, 11:35 PM
My system in Newark, CA is up to speed, it's just that Comcast in the Bay Area doesn't think that we should get those HD channels that most of you take for granted.

Now if I lived in the crappy part of Sunnyvale, CA, I'd agree with you, but I live in a place where they have the room to put more HD on, but don't do so.

I live in San Jose and NFLHD just showed up on channel 725. I also got a message
that TNTHD will be on 726 starting Sept 20 but INHD2 will be removed from 720.

maxman
08-21-06, 08:08 AM
Here in Boston, INHD...was pre-empted (by NFL) until 5. There was no indication of this on the schedule, so I have no indication of how often they plan to do this.

Same here in S. Jersey. The channel still said INHD and INHD programming was listed in the on-screen guide, but was showing NFL-HD.

Addicted2HD4Now
08-21-06, 09:39 AM
My system in Newark, CA is up to speed, it's just that Comcast in the Bay Area doesn't think that we should get those HD channels that most of you take for granted.

Now if I lived in the crappy part of Sunnyvale, CA, I'd agree with you, but I live in a place where they have the room to put more HD on, but don't do so.

Well, there must be some kind of reason you don't have the same lineup. For example my system didn't have TNT HD for the longest time, but was all of a sudden added once we got ESPN2HD, MHD and NESN HD (full time channel) were added. Turns out they had to buy a piece of headend equipment and perhaps couldn't justify it for one channel, but to add four it probably was easier to justify.

hondo21
08-22-06, 11:25 PM
Pittsburgh area Comcast dropped INHD2 (channel 227) today, but added MHD (channel 209). The latter still doesn't have valid program guide information.

TravelFan1
08-23-06, 09:22 AM
U-HD will be added tomorrow, channel 208, to the following Comcast systems:

New Jersey II(Union)
Plainfield
Northwest
Jersey City
Meadowlands
Monmouth County
Ocean County
Central NJ
Toms River
Long Beach Island

Just in time for the US Open!

Don H
08-23-06, 09:34 AM
According to Comcast CSR today UHD will be available in Monmouth County tomorrow. Too little too late. Going to Fios as soon as its available.

jrusnak
08-23-06, 11:44 AM
U-HD will be added tomorrow, channel 208, to the following Comcast systems:

New Jersey II(Union)

Just in time for the US Open!

Even better, it will be in time for the FIREFLY HD broadcasts!

ohdanny
08-23-06, 01:10 PM
U-HD will be added tomorrow, channel 208, to the following Comcast systems:

New Jersey II(Union)
Plainfield
Northwest
Jersey City
Meadowlands
Monmouth County
Ocean County
Central NJ
Toms River
Long Beach Island

Just in time for the US Open!

Where did you see this info travel? That's great news if correct. Did you get a message on your box?

TravelFan1
08-23-06, 01:56 PM
Where did you see this info travel? That's great news if correct. Did you get a message on your box?
There's an ad today on the Sports section of the Star Ledger, page 51.

chinch
08-23-06, 01:57 PM
anyone have a website for "U-HD" where i can see program listings, OAR broadcasting, etc.

i'd rather have a HD RSN here in comcast

TravelFan1
08-23-06, 02:07 PM
http://www.universalhd.com/

BMAG
08-23-06, 02:14 PM
...Did you get a message on your box?

A message?!? That's a good one :p

The only messages I ever get are pay-per-view promotions and "Comcast is hiring".

Marcus Carr
08-23-06, 03:24 PM
A message?!? That's a good one :p

The only messages I ever get are pay-per-view promotions and "Comcast is hiring".

I got messages about Universal HD and ESPN2 HD when they were added. Everything else was a "surprise".

kevin j
08-23-06, 07:48 PM
Anyone know when UHD'll be returned to Comcast in the Chicago area?

rcodey
08-24-06, 01:34 AM
Universal-HD started this morning at 1:20am on Ch.208 in Northern New Jersey.

jrusnak
08-24-06, 04:07 AM
Universal-HD started this morning at 1:20am on Ch.208 in Northern New Jersey.

Yep. Plus, we still have INHD2! (Even though it's still usually pre-empted for some game.)

nhey
08-24-06, 10:40 AM
Universal HD is no where to be found on Comcast central NJ as of 5 a.m. today.

I thought the Star ledger said is was being added in central NJ also?

I'm in Lawrenceville.

Linux23
08-24-06, 09:37 PM
UHD reported in Jersey City along with INHD and INHD2 (didn't know until I flipped through the channels).

Is this temporary or permanent?

chitchatjf
08-25-06, 12:54 AM
Old News if you live in Boston.

We have had UHD FULL TIME since Feb,was among the first markets to get MHD and ESPN2HD,have had TNT-HD since MArch of LAST YEAR and have a FULL TIME RSN (NESN-HD)

We also STILL have INHD1 and INHD2 plus all 5 major broadcast networks in HD (ABC,CBS,CW,FOX and NBC)

OK so WHAT is the NEXT HD channel for Comcast?

I've been told that 883 and 884 are reserved for a pair of channels that begin with the letter H.

ABHD
08-25-06, 02:12 AM
I've been told that 883 and884 are reserved for a pair of channels that begin with the letter H.

Hmmm... maybe HGTV-HD, History-HD, Hallmark-HD, or Horror-HD are my guesses for future HD channels beginning with H. Any others it might be?

raidbuck
08-25-06, 07:57 AM
Unfortunately, we get so many positive and negative words about a certain pair of H channels that I try not to get too hopeful. At least there are occasional rumors, which there weren't a few months ago. Where there's smoke?.....

Rich N.

dan57
08-25-06, 08:55 AM
UHD up and running in Central NJ as well.

LonghornXP
08-25-06, 09:58 AM
Those two channels starting with H happen to be HDNet and HDNet Movies.

Marcus Carr
08-25-06, 10:27 AM
Those two channels starting with H happen to be HDNet and HDNet Movies.

Interesting. I thought Nat Geo HD would come first.

Addicted2HD4Now
08-25-06, 10:42 AM
Are we talking September 1, October 1 or is there no estimated timeline at this point for HDNet/Movies being added?

nhey
08-25-06, 02:10 PM
UHD up and running in Central NJ as well.


Not running in Lawrenceville, as of 2:00 p.m. Friday

LonghornXP
08-25-06, 02:32 PM
I would say for those area's with bandwidth to expect it before years end. I believe October will be the month to watch for it though.

JonM in MN
08-25-06, 02:36 PM
Longhorn, that's great news. Woulld you mind sharing how you know this?

Marcus Carr
08-25-06, 03:15 PM
Longhorn, that's great news. Woulld you mind sharing how you know this?

He has a VERY high source.;)

psincubus
08-25-06, 04:17 PM
Well considering Comcast just acquired Adelphia, who has HDNet, HDNet movies, INHD, and INHD2, it makes sense that they would now give those channels.

I have Adelphia, and am waiting for the comcast takeover to get some of the HD channels not offered by adelphia, like TNT HD.

ABHD
08-25-06, 04:53 PM
I would say for those area's with bandwidth to expect it before years end. I believe October will be the month to watch for it though.

Great news!, I never expected it would be the HDNet channels cause I only ever read that it will never happen, so I assumed HGTV-HD would be the H channel.

I wonder how long till the bandwidth starved areas will get it?

hdtvjunkie247
08-25-06, 05:06 PM
I would say for those area's with bandwidth to expect it before years end. I believe October will be the month to watch for it though.

Would they be in a tier, or the current digital cable package? Just curious.

TurboDan
08-25-06, 05:13 PM
It's my belief that HDNet needs Comcast more than Comcast needs HDNet. I'd say that Cuban would have to give a little.

If Comcast starts an HD tier, expect things to get dicey when they throw ESPNHD on there too, so you'll sorta HAVE to buy it if you're a sports fan. That's what TWC does.

GoIrish
08-25-06, 05:31 PM
Well considering Comcast just acquired Adelphia, who has HDNet, HDNet movies, INHD, and INHD2, it makes sense that they would now give those channels.

I have Adelphia, and am waiting for the comcast takeover to get some of the HD channels not offered by adelphia, like TNT HD.

I disagree. Just because Adelphia has a couple hundred thousand customers getting HDNet in an HD Tier should not be interpreted to mean 4 million Comcast HD customers automatically will now get HD Net.

GoIrish

chitchatjf
08-25-06, 05:48 PM
IMHO I would set it so any HD channel that is a simulcast of an SD channel should be offered for FREE to those who have the SD channel.

That is if a cable system pays $3.00 for ESPN,then ESPN-HD is FREE! Ditto with ESPN2-HD TNT-HD and the others.

Of course HDNet and co would not fall under this.

Brooadcast channels would and stupid Sincliar would not be able to say OK you can have our SD channels but if you want HD then it is extra.

bubba5
08-25-06, 07:00 PM
I disagree. Just because Adelphia has a couple hundred thousand customers getting HDNet in an HD Tier should not be interpreted to mean 4 million Comcast HD customers automatically will now get HD Net.

GoIrish
Don't bet on it, if Comcast can charge and make more profit they will.

web
08-25-06, 07:19 PM
UHD up and running in Mountain View, CA. IND1, IND2, and ESPN2 are still active with the addition of UHD.

web

kevin j
08-25-06, 07:59 PM
Putting HDNET on an HD tier would be stupid[i'm already paying over $92 for cable for that i should get it gratis....but hopefully it won't come to that[having an HD tier that is].

GoIrish
08-25-06, 08:52 PM
Don't bet on it, if Comcast can charge and make more profit they will.

My point is that Comcast has resisted creating a separate tier for HD as other companies do and to suddenly do so nationwide because of HDNet on a small number of Adelphia customers is unlikely.

GoIrish

sangs
08-26-06, 07:25 AM
UHD here from Union (NJ) system.

Sadly though, I've browsed through the next week's schedule and it appears to be equally as lame a channel as it was when I received it from DirecTV. Not sure why people were clamoring for it.

Gary*w*
08-26-06, 07:45 AM
It has re runs of a couple popular sci-fi series and NBC uses it for additional coverage of big sporting events like the Olympics.

sangs
08-26-06, 07:50 AM
It has re runs of a couple popular sci-fi series and NBC uses it for additional coverage of big sporting events like the Olympics.

You left out the 90 hours or so of coverage of something called the "Dew Action Sports Tour" during the next two weeks.

LonghornXP
08-26-06, 12:36 PM
I can say to all this deal has nothing todo with Aldephia having HDNet and also don't expect Comcast to create an HD Tier anytime soon which also means don't expect HDNet and HDNet Movies to be in another teir. I think HDNet and HDNet Movies will be included in the higest digital tier Comcast has like a few other channels but you won't need to order premium channels or anything like that to get it.

QZ1
08-26-06, 01:23 PM
I can say to all this deal has nothing todo with Aldephia having HDNet and also don't expect Comcast to create an HD Tier anytime soon which also means don't expect HDNet and HDNet Movies to be in another teir. I think HDNet and HDNet Movies will be included in the higest digital tier Comcast has like a few other channels but you won't need to order premium channels or anything like that to get it.
If they don't create an HD Tier 'anytime soon', then they likely never will.
The highest Digital tier (not package) here, is Digital Plus, right now there are no HD channels there, so I doubt they would put HDNet/HDNet Movies there; more likely it would go to Digital Classic, where all the other 'cable' HD (non-premium, non-local) channels are. But, a few areas only have one Digital tier, so there it would the highest. :)
Obviously HDNet/HDNet Movies wouldn't require ordering a premium channel, you probably mean it wouldn't be a premium channel itself, which is a good move, as many people wouldn't order it, due to lack of knowledge.

QZ1
08-26-06, 01:47 PM
IMHO I would set it so any HD channel that is a simulcast of an SD channel should be offered for FREE to those who have the SD channel.

That is if a cable system pays $3.00 for ESPN,then ESPN-HD is FREE! Ditto with ESPN2-HD TNT-HD and the others.

Of course HDNet and co would not fall under this.

Brooadcast channels would and stupid Sincliar would not be able to say OK you can have our SD channels but if you want HD then it is extra.
Probably the fairest way to do it, although they probably won't do that. Already HD Locals and Premiums work this way. Right now, the other cable HD is on Digital Classic here, and, in this area, like Boston and some others, can be bought w/o Expanded service.

If they tied HD simulcasts to Expd., I probably still wouldn't get Expd., it is too expensive. I do get TNT, and a few others, in SD in the Value Pack, so I would still get TNT-HD, and of course, all of the HD exclusives.
Channels with the same name as an SD channel, but with different programming should be considered exclusive too. (I think only Disc-HD falls into this category. So, does PBS, but it is an HD Local.)

But, conversely, I can see others, who need Expd., might like to get some HD simulcasts with it, and opt out of Digital Classic/Plus HD exclusives.

In the distant future, when many (probably not all, though) cable channels will be HD simulcasts, it will be interesting to see if how they handle the Expd. and Digital Classic tiers, I think we will see changes.

bmoney017
08-26-06, 10:44 PM
Longhorn, any idea of how to find out how much bandwidth each area has, and if so, would that tell if the certian area will offer the newest HD channels as they come out? Hopefully that makes sense, if not ill try to reword it

Marcus Carr
08-27-06, 01:14 AM
Channels with the same name as an SD channel, but with different programming should be considered exclusive too. (I think only Disc-HD falls into this category. So, does PBS, but it is an HD Local.)

Actually the name Discovery HD Theater is significantly different from The Discovery Channel.

PBS HD is a national channel that is different from each area's local channel, even though local bugs may be added to it.

Food Network HD and HGTV HD are not complete simulcasts of the SD channels, even though the name is the same. So those would have to be considered exclusive.

hdtvjunkie247
08-27-06, 10:30 AM
Well I just noticed this morning that NFL Network HD has shown up on INHD1 here in Ocean County,NJ via a Comcast preemption. The guide listings still say what is on INHD1 however.

bmoney017
08-27-06, 12:20 PM
I turned to inhd right after reading your post hdtvjunkie, and NFL HD has been on ever since. Does anyone know if this will get its own channel, or will it replace inhd?

hdtvjunkie247
08-27-06, 01:16 PM
I think that Comcast will just preempt INHD1 whenever NFL Network has something in HD, versus giving it a fulltime channel. Regular INHD1 programming would return after.

QZ1
08-27-06, 01:24 PM
Actually the name Discovery HD Theater is significantly different from The Discovery Channel.

PBS HD is a national channel that is different from each area's local channel, even though local bugs may be added to it.

Food Network HD and HGTV HD are not complete simulcasts of the SD channels, even though the name is the same. So those would have to be considered exclusive.

Good catch on Disc., I had thought it was called Disc.-HD.

I mentioned PBS as same name, exclusive content.

Agreed, on Food Net. and HGTV, should be considered exclusive, just like Disc.; unfortunately, we don't get them yet. :(

LonghornXP
08-27-06, 03:54 PM
Longhorn, any idea of how to find out how much bandwidth each area has, and if so, would that tell if the certian area will offer the newest HD channels as they come out? Hopefully that makes sense, if not ill try to reword it

I would say your best bet is to see what specific channels in my list below you have. The more of these you have the better chance of seeing new channels but nothing is set in stone.

TNT HD
UHD
MHD
ESPN2 HD

If you have everything above plus all the other HD channels you have a good shot of seeing new channels. Most markets that don't have bandwidth also don't have many if any of these channels I listed above. Also if you know how to check the diag modes tune to specific HD channels and if any of them are above 700 or 750 for that matter you have a good chance of seeing new channels. Many of the markets without bandwidth are still on systems with 550Mhz, 600Mhz or 650Mhz. I believe my system is either an 850Mhz system or a 1Ghz system and I'm pretty sure its 850Mhz though.

Marcus Carr
08-27-06, 04:13 PM
I'm on at least an 850Mhz system, but no MHD yet. I have TNT HD, UHD,
ESPN2 HD, INHD2, and NFL HD on its own channel.

hdtvjunkie247
08-27-06, 05:40 PM
I would say your best bet is to see what specific channels in my list below you have. The more of these you have the better chance of seeing new channels but nothing is set in stone.

TNT HD
UHD
MHD
ESPN2 HD



Out of that list, I have TNT HD, UHD and ESPN2 HD. My system is also 750 Mhz so I think that I'm in good shape. Hopefully there won't be too long of a wait for MHD here in NJ.

bmoney017
08-27-06, 05:40 PM
Well I have TNT HD, MHD, ESPN2 HD. No UHD, NFL HD or INHD2

maxman
08-27-06, 06:31 PM
Hopefully there won't be too long of a wait for MHD here in NJ.

Are you on the old Garden State system?

stw2323
08-27-06, 09:18 PM
Well, here in Chicago, no new NFL-HD so far that I've seen. I was very happy when they added ESPN2HD. MHD does nothing for me. Quite honestly, I was not impressed with UHD during the Olympic trial. I was happy to have it for that, but I think the channel I would like to see is HDNet. I don't know that I would care for NFLHD taking up a whole channel for the limited amount of live game action they show in a sportthat only lasts 5 months. HDNet seems to have more diverse programming. Besides, I've heard so much about Cuban and his creating this channel, that I really want to see it.

hdtvjunkie247
08-27-06, 11:31 PM
Are you on the old Garden State system?

I'm on the Comcast of Ocean County (Brick Township) system.

babrown92
08-28-06, 10:33 AM
MHD and UHD added in Tucson, AZ this morning. INHD2 looks to have been replaced by MHD.

chitchatjf
08-28-06, 10:49 AM
Boston has had MHD and ESPN2 since June with TNTHD since Mar 2005,Discovery HT since late 2004,and we STILL have INHD1 and 2 (but not fiull time NFL-HD

Bring on the H channels.

jeffb831
08-28-06, 11:08 AM
Not running in Lawrenceville, as of 2:00 p.m. Friday

Me neither. I checked my bill and there was a new channel lineup insert with UHD on channel 208 with an asterick after it. The footnote says that it may not be available in Mercer county. Could this be because we lose bandwith because we get both NY and Philly stations?

hdtvjunkie247
08-28-06, 12:58 PM
jeffb831 & nhey-

Have you guys contacted Comcast as to the reason why you didn't receive Universal HD on August 24? I've heard similar things like this in other areas of NJ, where people didn't receive Lifetime Movie Network when it launched on Comcast last September. Wonder how come you guys didn't get it?

sikoniko
08-28-06, 01:33 PM
Jacksonville, Fl got NFLHD just in time to watch preseason games that had already been on. When you go to the My Channel Line-Up on comcast.com, it shows MHD in the place of INHD2, but as of last night, MHD was not on. I wonder how long that will take to change? Its been like that for a couple weeks now. No UHD as of last night. I know we are on a 750MHZ system.

We have FSN-HD and NFLHD that are both waisting space. They only show something a few hours a week.

jeffb831
08-28-06, 09:03 PM
jeffb831 & nhey-

Have you guys contacted Comcast as to the reason why you didn't receive Universal HD on August 24? I've heard similar things like this in other areas of NJ, where people didn't receive Lifetime Movie Network when it launched on Comcast last September. Wonder how come you guys didn't get it?

I contacted Comcast eSupport and received the following response:

"...UHD will be available in most areas however there are some small pockets where this channel will not be available. This all depends on the location and what is listed in the actual contract with UHD. ..."

rcodey
08-29-06, 01:36 AM
Me neither. I checked my bill and there was a new channel lineup insert with UHD on channel 208 with an asterick after it. The footnote says that it may not be available in Mercer county. Could this be because we lose bandwith because we get both NY and Philly stations?

Tech people with Comcast in NJ have told me that the amount of over-the-air must carry stations have limited their ability to add more HD.The Mercer County situation with must carry from 2 markets might be your problem.

nywst
08-29-06, 10:42 AM
The bot line is Comcrap sucks, and their DVR only can hold 15 hrs HD contents.

JonM in MN
08-29-06, 10:52 AM
The bot line is Comcrap sucks, and their DVR only can hold 15 hrs HD contents.

Thanks so much for your insightful contribution.

Perhaps you'd be better served starting a `Comcrap sux' thread, preferably on another website.

hdtvjunkie247
08-29-06, 11:15 AM
Tech people with Comcast in NJ have told me that the amount of over-the-air must carry stations have limited their ability to add more HD.The Mercer County situation with must carry from 2 markets might be your problem.

Hmm, my system Comcast of Ocean County (Brick) has both NY and PA locals and we got UHD along with TNT HD and ESPN2 HD this year. All the NY and PA locals take up about 17 analog slots here.

nywst
08-29-06, 11:18 AM
Thanks so much for your insightful contribution.

Perhaps you'd be better served starting a `Comcrap sux' thread, preferably on another website.

You are welcome.
On another web site? do you own this one?

JonM in MN
08-29-06, 12:52 PM
You are welcome.
On another web site? do you own this one?

No, but I do try to contribute to the topic at hand when I post. Ya might wanna try that.

And if you don't have Comcast, you probably don't have any reason to be here other than to write bait posts. Yes?

boo
08-29-06, 03:04 PM
The bot line is Comcrap sucks, and their DVR only can hold 15 hrs HD contents.


...and my answer to that is Comcast does not charge a upfront fee just for the right to lease a HD DVR ( $200 for E*, ? for D* ) and pay a monthly lease fee on top of that ( we just have the $5 fee for a HD Box, $5 more for the DVR ), and 15 hrs is just fine for me.

How happy are folks going to be that everytime D* and E* upgrade their boxes folks have to pay. I upgraded from the 6412 to the all digital 3412 box, how much did Comcast charge me to upgrade....$0.00, how much did E* charge folks for the 942 to the 622 upgrade, how much is D* going to charge folks to upgrade from the HD Tivo box they paid anywhere from $300.00 to $800.00 to get the new HD DVR box from D*?

Comcast also does not do any type of HD Lite like D* and E*, we also get, if we wish to pay, Cinemax-HD, November, all six Star Wars movies in HD ( 4,5 and 6 are the big ones, never in HD before ), is it going to be on E* and D*, as of now....nope.

Cucuy
08-29-06, 04:02 PM
...and my answer to that is Comcast does not charge a upfront fee just for the right to lease a HD DVR ( $200 for E*, ? for D* ) and pay a monthly lease fee on top of that ( we just have the $5 fee for a HD Box, $5 more for the DVR ), and 15 hrs is just fine for me.



You could get a HDDVR for free right now if you are a new sub. There are advantages/disadvantages to both services.

I had Comcast and E* for all of the first half of 06 so I can comment on both. These are what I can think of right now.

Comcast
pros:no contract, no-hd-lite, no limit on HDDVRs, locals in HD
con's:poor HDDVR implementation and lack of HD channels when compared to the competion

Dish
pros:more hd channels, better HDDVR
cons:HD locals not available everywhere, hdlite, contract, very expensive when needing multiple DVR's

I dropped Comcast when they did not want to renew my promotional pricing

bubba5
08-29-06, 08:20 PM
Is UHD only here for the US Open like the olympics or is it here to stay in NJ?

bmoney017
08-29-06, 08:46 PM
Has anyone else noticed the annoying ads which are now found at the bottom of the on-screen guide?

hdtvjunkie247
08-29-06, 09:33 PM
Is UHD only here for the US Open like the olympics or is it here to stay in NJ?

Its permanent, at least in my area.

oleus
08-29-06, 11:18 PM
UHD isn't even on the radar here in Atlanta. We're getting MHD but losing inhd2.

wstanko
08-30-06, 06:53 AM
Has anyone else noticed the annoying ads which are now found at the bottom of the on-screen guide?

Yes, I have and I called customer service and told them that it was unappreciated and very "mickey mouse" in nature. Since I am already paying for the service, I don't need viewing tips and ads.

Marcus Carr
08-30-06, 08:10 AM
Has anyone else noticed the annoying ads which are now found at the bottom of the on-screen guide?

I've been getting those for months. They come and go.

sikoniko
08-30-06, 08:19 AM
got a msg this morning in Jax that INHD2 will be swapped for MHD on Sept. 5th. Still no word on UHD.

wstanko
08-30-06, 09:23 AM
got a msg this morning in Jax that INHD2 will be swapped for MHD on Sept. 5th. Still no word on UHD.

I don't know what your viewing habits are, but they already swapped me out for the MHD in Pittsburgh. I lost a high quality channel that I occasionally watched, and received a low quality (video and audio) channel that I will not watch at all. I do not know how this decision was made, but in this time period of limited resources for bandwidth, wow! There is so much more out there that is worth acquiring.

But, maybe some of you feel that way about some of the channels I watch daily.

pcgraffy
08-30-06, 09:24 AM
Sorry to change the subject from the INHD/MHD talk -- but..

Does Comcast have an agreement to carry any of the FSN Regional HD stations? I think I read somewhere that they may carry the FSN NE that show Celtics games in HD.

I'm in Atlanta, and I've noticed here (http://www.hdsportsguide.com/) that there is a listing, for instance, for tonights Braves game on FSN South HD. I think D* carries this channel -- but not Comcast. Is this coming -- any idea?

kblee
08-30-06, 09:32 AM
I don't know what your viewing habits are, but they already swapped me out for the MHD in Pittsburgh. I lost a high quality channel that I occasionally watched, and received a low quality (video and audio) channel that I will not watch at all.

I'm not sure I follow your "quality" statement. Here in Chicago, MHD is quite possibly the highest quality channel in terms of PQ, and audio is amazing when they are showing a 5.1 program. Content may be an issue, but execution is not.

wstanko
08-30-06, 09:39 AM
I'm not sure I follow your "quality" statement. Here in Chicago, MHD is quite possibly the highest quality channel in terms of PQ, and audio is amazing when they are showing a 5.1 program. Content may be an issue, but execution is not.

You could very well be correct on both issues. When I tried to watch it (two 5 minute attempts), all I saw were very low quality concerts of British groups that hop up and down while performing. I guess my statement gives away my age and opinions.

bmoney017
08-30-06, 10:42 AM
Sorry to change the subject from the INHD/MHD talk -- but..

Does Comcast have an agreement to carry any of the FSN Regional HD stations? I think I read somewhere that they may carry the FSN NE that show Celtics games in HD.

I'm in Atlanta, and I've noticed here (http://www.hdsportsguide.com/) that there is a listing, for instance, for tonights Braves game on FSN South HD. I think D* carries this channel -- but not Comcast. Is this coming -- any idea?

I know that directv is offering FSN Detroit HD, but comcast is not. I thought I heard someone mention that it FSN was offered in some region, but i doubt it.

nywst
08-30-06, 10:53 AM
No, but I do try to contribute to the topic at hand when I post. Ya might wanna try that.

And if you don't have Comcast, you probably don't have any reason to be here other than to write bait posts. Yes?

I have comcast, that's why I am complaining since I know how bad their service is. And you can hear lots of complaints from comcast customers in my area. I wish Verizon FIOS TV can reach my area soon.

raidbuck
08-30-06, 10:56 AM
It is too bad that MHD is the newest channel Comcast is adding nationwide, as I think the majority of people expressing opinions here would rather have regular channels such as NGCHD, HGTVHD, FOOD-HD etc.

But Comcast can only give us what they have agreements for. And we don't know the particulars on those channels and where negotiations stand. At least the non-HDNET options are increasing.

Rich N.

hdtvjunkie247
08-30-06, 11:03 AM
My HD wishlist for Comcast.

MHD

HDNET/HDNET Movies

National Geographic HD

While any of the other ones like HGTV-HD and FOOD-HD would be good, I'd really like to have the three that I mentioned above.