Originally posted by STEAMHL2
To put it to fact, this TV (HT32744) definetly does display in 480P. Tried it with my Gamecube games. It will say in Info 720*480(60P).

I tried playing DVDs with my PS2 (New model 50001 w/ Progressive Scan), and it says 720*480(60I). I'm assuming this is interlaced. Why won't it display DVDs in progressive scan?

I think that you have to manually set this. I don't have this model so this may not be the exact way to do it, you'd have to look in the manual for that. But to change most options regarding DVD playback, while the DVD is in the drive and playing, push stop twice, then push select to bring up the onscreen menu. Then highlight the icon for setup and push enter, then arrow over to video settings. THe option for progressive should be in there. The settings in the menu you are in only apply to DVD playback. For a game to have progressive, the game has to support it, and all games are different as to how they enable progressive scan if they do support it.

I just tried two different wal-marts near my house and neither had the 30" in stock. How often do they re-order if they are out of stock?

after talking to 2 different managers i got the pricematch to 697... even hotter deal :)

Thanks oryan, got it. It now displays info 720x480 (60P) on PS2 DVDs. I'm assuming this is progressive.

One thing I have a problem with on this set is the pixelation on PS2 Games. I was playing Kingdom Hearts as a test and the CG sequences are nice and sharp, but on the static screens (text) the lines are really fuzzy and not straight at all (pixely rough edges). What is this caused by and can it be fixed?

I have my PS2 hooked up with component (Sony) cables on the HT32744. This happens to a lesser extent on some DVDs also. I know it can look much better becuase before I had it hooked up to a 30" Sony (non-HD) and the lines were much much sharper.

Ok I see there were people reporting the pixely issue of the component inputs in the last thread.

So if this TV upconverts 480i/p to 1080i then video games will look like this through component? Is there anyway to stop it from upconverting sources?

This is really annoying. Playing on video games on this TV is the worst I have seen. The graphics are not even as good as they would be on non-HD TVs.

This goes for both Gamecube and PS2 which I have hooked up through component. Is there a better HDTV for gaming?

Is there anything special I need to do to use the optical out? I running an optical cable from the back of my HT32744 to my panasonic home theater system and I am not getting any sound during games or tv viewing. However, if I run the optical cable directly from my PS2 or xbox I get audio. It seems like the optical out is just plain dead. Anyone else experience this?

Thanks in advance,
Taylor

The optical out will only work when you are tuning in digital tv stations with an antenna. For everything else, you'd have to use the analog audio out.

That was it exactly. Thank you. I'm a bit confused as to why the xbox wouldn't count as a digital source but I guess I can accept it. I can also confirm that composite inputs from my xbox suck. Alot of snow and pixelation.

Here's the neat part. I am waiting for Comcast to come and give me an HD decoder for my analog cable, and I currently have my analog cable running into my digital coaxial input, and I am getting like 4-6 premium movie channels, about 40 audio channels and most of my local hd channels. If I were getting ESPN HD I wouldn't need the decoder but I wonder if I am going to lose all the free premium stuff that my tv is currently getting?

Taylor

Just split the coax one to the decoder and the other to the digital coax. The reason that xbox isn't considered digital is that the set can only output what it gets in as far as the digital audio goes. There is no encoding going on. It just passes along the digital feed straight from air to your receiver. If it had an encoder, it could take analog audio and encode it to DD, but then it woudl only be DD 2.0. My sylvania hd tuner is the same way, if i tune a digital channel, i can choose digital or analgo sound. with analog stations, i get only analog sound.

Originally posted by STEAMHL2
Ok I see there were people reporting the pixely issue of the component inputs in the last thread.

So if this TV upconverts 480i/p to 1080i then video games will look like this through component? Is there anyway to stop it from upconverting sources?

This is really annoying. Playing on video games on this TV is the worst I have seen. The graphics are not even as good as they would be on non-HD TVs.

This goes for both Gamecube and PS2 which I have hooked up through component. Is there a better HDTV for gaming?

I ended up using S-video for my v1 PS2 because it looked better than when I was using the Monster component cable. Kinda sucks that I have to go s-video, but I love everything else about this TV, so I'm sticking with it. I have the 32" Sanyo HDTV.

Thanks,
jawgee

^^^

Ya I have been testing some more with gaming on the 32".

Strange becuase some games actually look great whereas others the text and graphics in general become pixelated.

It is mostly on PS2 games where the menu screens and logos look incredibly jagged.

The pixelation you are now noticing is due to the higher resolution of the HDTV. Some game designers actually depend on standard def. sets to do some anti-aliasing for them, so when you plug into a HDTV or computer monitor, the jagged lines are more apparent due to the higher resolution and sharper image. I noticed this on a few games with my Xbox when I hooked it up to my computer monitor. When the game developers spend the extra time to incorporate better anti-aliasing, you get a beautiful gaming image with the HDTV, particularly games that are in 720p.

Just picked up the Sanyo 32". So far it works great right out of the box. I use it for DVDs and OTA only. The DTV tuner found all the same channels as my old Samsung SIR-T151 and seems to work about the same except I haven't found the program guide button yet. I liked this feature on the T151. Also I don't seem to have any tilt, geom. or red push problems at all. STV looks very good, DVDs also look very good and HDTV looks great. Only had a few hours to play with it but so far I am very happy with it. Now to work on getting more DTV and HDTV channels.

There is no program guide...unless I just haven't found it in 3 months. That and the fact that you can't directly punch an OTA DTV channel into the remote are my only complaints...very minor things but would be much appreciated features.

Right now I am playing Madden 2005 a 480p game and it's pretty pixelayed including a fuzzy line that runs the width of the screen about a quarter of the way down from the top.. I'm running Monster composite cables to the TV. The xbox currently has 480p,720p, and 1080i enabled. Is this common?

Most of my Gamecube games have been working excellent that are in 480p. I have never seen any lines, distortions, etc.

Has anybody compared Xbox 480i/p to 720p? I'd like to know how big the jump in quality is.

Besides just those minor jaggies in PS2 I have no issues. Maybe I was just noticing them becuase I had a TV with much lower resolution previously, so it was probably blurred more.

Tried to get a refund of the $50 difference now that the price is $697. The clerk called some manaher type who said the policy on refunds for price changes is 10 days. I asked her to speak with him...figured I could reason with him since I'm still within the 90 day return period. It be better for them to just give me the difference then have me return the used set for a full refund and have to sell me another on the spot. Well, logic doesn't seem to work in WalMart. That didn't seem to make a whole lot of sense to this kid ("manager"). And to top it off he told me that I'd have to bring the actual item back to the store for the refund anyway. When I asked why he said they needed to "scan it". I asked what they wanted to scan and he said "the television". Me: "but there is nothing to scan on the television" him:"yeah, we need to scan it for the refund" Me: "but what exactly would you scan...I have my recieipt right here with the stock number and everything" Him "I know but we need to scan it for the refund". See why this was getting frustrating? It's like I was talking to a brick wall. I've still got 3 weeks left on my 90 days and there are 4 more WalMarts within 15 miles...gonna try them before I bother hauling it back.

LOL, i feel for you TH3. I've seen many people that work at walmart that follow that "logic" there's not much you can do with them. If you want results, either threaten to call 1-800-Walmart or do it and tell them about your experience. They'll usually do what it takes to keep the customer happy. I think I would be lmao if I saw that conversation. But you should have just said, i'll peal off the sticker with the thing you need to scan. But the guy probably would have said "but i need to scan the tv" lol. well i wish you luck.

Originally posted by TH3_FRB
Tried to get a refund of the $50 difference now that the price is $697. The clerk called some manaher type who said the policy on refunds for price changes is 10 days.


The two people I talked to 10 days ago had the same story about having to physically return it. It was only later that I read:

Originally posted by AMgold
Just buy a new one, and return it with the old receipt. No worries about problems if your set is working just fine.


AMgold's method would give them something to scan!

I bought the 2nd set and brought it home. Took the "new" set back a few days later. When I told them why I was bringing it back, the supervisor says "I would have given you the $50 credit". Where was she the first time?

No WalMart of the 6-7 within 20-30 miles said thay had the 32744 in stock. The kid at this store said I'd need to talk to the "manager" about getting one so I drove there to try to "order" one. The "manager" said he thought he had one and headed to check. Took a long time, but he came back with one. I had to drive home to get a bigger car and it was only when I got home and opened it that I noticed it wasn't "new". It had been out of the box and been through initial setup screens (i.e. TV Speakers were set to Off, channels had been scanned, ...). The remote didn't have batteries but had been opened. No indications that I was buying a return or demo unit (latter more likely). I REALLY didn't like that the set had already been setup and used and there was no indication of that. May be the same for whoever buys it the 3rd time.

That's exactly what he would have said. I don't even think he was a real manager...at least not the type I wanted to talk to. He was the guy that stands at the little podium by the registers and makes sure the lines don't get too long. He was probably just a floor manager or something. I didn't feel like wasting more of my time asking for a REAL manager :D

Originally posted by oryan_dunn
I think I would be lmao if I saw that conversation. But you should have just said, i'll peal off the sticker with the thing you need to scan. But the guy probably would have said "but i need to scan the tv" lol. well i wish you luck.

TH3_FRB
<That and the fact that you can't directly punch an OTA DTV channel into the remote are my only complaints..>

You can if the channel is in memory. I tried scanning more DTV channels last night and found the Sanyo sees more then the Samsung T151 STB did. Most are too weak to watch but the Sanyo still saw then. I will do much better, OTA, when the leaves are gone which is OK by me as I watch much more TV in cold weather.

I also burned a CD with jpegs from my 2.1 meg pix. camera. WOW much better on the Sanyo then my old 25" Zenith. Not shure if it is just because I use 480p on the Sanyo and composite on the Zenith, or the Sanyo is that much better. (I assume both) The Zenith flickered so bad it was really unwatchable for jpegs. The Sanyo did a good job for being a large 32" at only 720X480p. (I didn't expect them to be as good as a computer monitor)

Still think this is a great set!

What do you mean "in memory"? What I'm talking about is using the number pad to punch in 13.1 for example. There is no key to represent the "." as far as I know.

Originally posted by ray50
TH3_FRB
<That and the fact that you can't directly punch an OTA DTV channel into the remote are my only complaints..>

You can if the channel is in memory.

Originally posted by TH3_FRB
What do you mean "in memory"? What I'm talking about is using the number pad to punch in 13.1 for example. There is no key to represent the "." as far as I know.

Punching in 13 will get you to 13.1 if you have the digital tuner selected. But yes, you're right, there's no way that I'm aware of to directly access subchannels (i.e. 13.2 if channel 13 is multi-casting)

Sorry TH3_FRB, housecor is right, you can not directly access subchannels.

BTW is the SM for the 30"WS the same as the 32"? (Sorry if this has been asked many times already)

I don't think I ever tried that...so I can hit 27 and it will take me to the digital 27.1...better then hitting channel up 10 times to get from 3.1 to 27.1 :D

Originally posted by housecor
Punching in 13 will get you to 13.1 if you have the digital tuner selected. But yes, you're right, there's no way that I'm aware of to directly access subchannels (i.e. 13.2 if channel 13 is multi-casting)

I have a 32". When watching HDTV in widescreen, I understand that there is black bars on top and bottom, but with some programs there is black bars on the side too. Why? What is the technical term for it?
-Ryan

When you have black bars on all sides of the picture it's not really HD. What you have is SD being upconverted to 1080i by the network and broadcast digitally. Most just put black bars on the side, ESPN puts that nifty "HD" design on the sides when the broad cast upconverted material on the HD channel. Typically using the zoom function works very well for this type of broadcast filling the screen with nice quality DTV. Remember...if it isn't 16:9 format it's not really HD...and not everything that is OTA digital is HD...many prime time shows are but most of the daytime shows and news are not HD yet.

After watching my 32" for a few days I found that all HD channels are not the same. One HD PBS station I get with a very strong signal (85-90%) still pixelates when the camera pans quickly. This same station has 3 sub-channels so I assume I am seeing the results of compression. Another near by HD PBS station has 2 sub channels during the day but only the main HD channel after 6pm. This station always looks great at night. The NBC HD channel I get has only a few HD programs, the rest are 4:3 programs that need to be zoomed. So far I love this set and my wife does also. (It is much easyer to use then the old set up with a video switch box to handle the DVD, VCR, STB and X-BOX.)

Anyone know if the Service Manual for the 30" WS is the same for the 32"?
I don't need it yet but would like to have it for maybe some tweaking this winter.

What you're probably seeing is the bit-starving of the HD feed as a result of needing to allocate some bandwidth to the other sub-channels. The pipe is only so big and the more streams they try to feed, the less each one gets...and it shows.

I used the service manual from the 30" to tweak my 32" so I'd say they are probably ostly the same.

I saw this 30" hdtv at walmart the other day on display. They were feeding it the walmart HD loop (walmart commercial/National Geographic/etc...) via component input. I couldn't help but notice that when they showed 4x3 material on the HD feed (black bars on the side) , the border between the picture and the black bar would distort back and forth as the picture changed and got brighter and darker. I also noticed it when showing full screen HD; the watermark would slightly move position.
This, plus the fact that by looking at the watermark location I determined that this hdtv overscanned more of the picture than the panasonic or philips 30", I wasn't impressed with the set.
Thinking about the panasonic for $100 dollars more, or playing it safe and getting a sony for much more.
Bob C

The geometry of these sets often needs to be tweaked...simple enough to do in the service menu. The distortion you saw was most likely a result of having the brightness and contrast cranked too high and the power supply couldn't handle the demand. With a proper calibration of the user settings this should be minimal. Why exactly do you consider a Sony "playing it safe"?

I also noticed that the borders on both sides were not straight vertical lines when the content wasn't HD material. I think it is common on CRT tough. The biggest selling point of this TV is the integrated ATSC tuner, at a pretty low price.

How's the availability on these? I'm wondering if I should snatch one up now before they're gone, or if I can continue to shop around for something else or a better/similar deal?

at $697 + tax, you won't find a better deal, not even close, than these two models.

Hey all,

First time posting here. Saw the Sanyo deal @ Wally world and decided I better do some research before buying the TV. I've made up my mind that I'm going to buy this set but I'm trying to decide which one, the 32" 4:3 or the 30" 16:9? Is it more for just preference? Presently I use my TV for watching satelite, playing games and watching movies. I guess I'm trying to figure out if the gain you get from watching widescreen movies on the 16:9 Sanyo compared to the 4:3 is actucally worth it?

upNdown, I would not worry about the Sanyo's not being around because they are a "new" model & will at least be around until next year & they may even be carried over into 2006. I would guess the best time to buy them would be just before Xmas or just after. I was figuring they would be under $ 700 around Xmas but after the latest price drop they may be $650 or even $600 :D I'm also waiting to see what the "new" Zenith 30" models will be like before I buy the Sanyo.

The jaggies you folks are noticing on your PS2 is probably due to the PS2's inherently low resolution for most games. I can assure you that you won't notice these problems on a Gamecube or an Xbox when using the component cables. As someone posted earlier, there is a certain dependence on the fuzziness of Standard Def televisions to hide the obvious stair stepping effect of the PS2's low resolution display mode. You can definitely blame this on the source and not the display.

For what it's worth (and on another subject), I picked up the Harman Kardon DPR 1001 Receiver from Circuit City yesterday ($299). The first store I visited was sold out, and they called another store about 10 miles away that had one left. Lucky me! Anyway, I'm pleased to report that nearly ALL my problems with the Xbox / Gamecube distortion problems disappeared. I hooked up my Xbox and Gamecube straight to the receiver (two component INs on the receiver), and the receiver is going component out to the television (30" widescreen Sanyo). The problems I had previously pretty much disappeared.

1) Xbox when playing DVDs has green vertical bars -- GONE
2) Xbox & Gamecube when playing games in Progressive Scan has horizontal lines of distortion across the entire width of the screen -- GONE

This was serendipitous, to be quite honest, and now I have NO regrets about this TV. None, absolutely none. I am now convinced that there has to be some kind of weirdness between those game consoles and the TV when they go straight into it. Although my receiver is certainly not high-end, it probably has some kind of circuitry that's cleaning up my video from the source to the display. I admit I don't know much about how this kind of stuff works, but it is the only thing sorta makes sense to me.

Thoughts anyone?

Danny

Maybe a little OT:
I get some noise on analog channels and from my computer (on ch. 3) on my 32" Sanyo (on old Zenith also). I have only OTA so the noise is from the antenna and/or AC power. I have a high end Winegard combo antenna (HD800P) and a low noise winegard pre-amp. Anyone have luck with filters for either and antenna or AC power? Mabye this is the wrong forum??

I'd say the noise is a result of feeding an analog SD signal to a digital HD display...they just aren't optimized for analog. My Sanyo looks great with DVD, digital/HD cable, and OTA HD but feeding it through a Tivo sucks. The Tivo looks just fine on my older analog set.

Originally posted by ray50
Maybe a little OT:
I get some noise on analog channels and from my computer (on ch. 3) on my 32" Sanyo (on old Zenith also). I have only OTA so the noise is from the antenna and/or AC power. I have a high end Winegard combo antenna (HD800P) and a low noise winegard pre-amp. Anyone have luck with filters for either and antenna or AC power? Mabye this is the wrong forum??

TH3_FRB I agree about noisy analog signals however one problem I have is when I turn on my computer, (2 rooms away) I get many horz. lines on channel 3 (analog) that is very annoying. Turning off the comupter gives me my nice clear sharp picture back. I have the computer on a filtered UPS so I am not sure how the noise is getting in.

Originally posted by Bill1313
upNdown, I would not worry about the Sanyo's not being around because they are a "new" model & will at least be around until next year & they may even be carried over into 2006. I would guess the best time to buy them would be just before Xmas or just after. I was figuring they would be under $ 700 around Xmas but after the latest price drop they may be $650 or even $600 :D I'm also waiting to see what the "new" Zenith 30" models will be like before I buy the Sanyo.

So you say (and I do appreciate the feedback) but Walmart.com doesn't have any available. Are there any Walmart or Sanyo 'insiders' here who can tell if there are more of these coming or if it was a limited run?

These sets wrer not normally available online. I believe the 30" was listed online for a very short time. Just because it isn't online doesn't mean they aren't available. Just call around to your local stores and ask for the electronics department and have the person check the stock for you.

Ah...so you're saying that the noise only happens when you turn on the computer? Interesting...I'd first try to narrow it down by turning on only the CPU and then only the monitor to see if one or the other is causing the noise. Also try not using the UPS. Maybe turning the computer on triggers some type of circuit in the UPS that is sending interference into your antenna signal.

Originally posted by ray50
TH3_FRB I agree about noisy analog signals however one problem I have is when I turn on my computer, (2 rooms away) I get many horz. lines on channel 3 (analog) that is very annoying. Turning off the comupter gives me my nice clear sharp picture back. I have the computer on a filtered UPS so I am not sure how the noise is getting in.

Originally posted by planetside
The jaggies you folks are noticing on your PS2 is probably due to the PS2's inherently low resolution for most games. I can assure you that you won't notice these problems on a Gamecube or an Xbox when using the component cables. As someone posted earlier, there is a certain dependence on the fuzziness of Standard Def televisions to hide the obvious stair stepping effect of the PS2's low resolution display mode. You can definitely blame this on the source and not the display.

For what it's worth (and on another subject), I picked up the Harman Kardon DPR 1001 Receiver from Circuit City yesterday ($299). The first store I visited was sold out, and they called another store about 10 miles away that had one left. Lucky me! Anyway, I'm pleased to report that nearly ALL my problems with the Xbox / Gamecube distortion problems disappeared. I hooked up my Xbox and Gamecube straight to the receiver (two component INs on the receiver), and the receiver is going component out to the television (30" widescreen Sanyo). The problems I had previously pretty much disappeared.

1) Xbox when playing DVDs has green vertical bars -- GONE
2) Xbox & Gamecube when playing games in Progressive Scan has horizontal lines of distortion across the entire width of the screen -- GONE

This was serendipitous, to be quite honest, and now I have NO regrets about this TV. None, absolutely none. I am now convinced that there has to be some kind of weirdness between those game consoles and the TV when they go straight into it. Although my receiver is certainly not high-end, it probably has some kind of circuitry that's cleaning up my video from the source to the display. I admit I don't know much about how this kind of stuff works, but it is the only thing sorta makes sense to me.

Thoughts anyone?

Danny

That's weird that the receiver fixed the issue for you, Danny, but I'm happy for you that it did clear up your problems. Seems like you would be introducing more potential for noise/interference by introducing another connection point between the consoles & the TV.

Good find!
jawgee

Yes, it is very strange and you're right -- another device in the path should contribute some noise or degradation. One thought is that I did purchase a NEW Xbox, and this might be a factor. Now granted, my previous TWO Xbox consoles exhibited the aforementioned problems, and others have posted the same as well. So I guess I ought to make sure, and re-connect the old Xbox just to keep an apples to apples comparison. All other aspects of the system are the same: same component cables, same HiDef AV pack for Xbox and of course same TV. The only difference is the receiver and a newer Xbox. I'll go and do some investigating ...

Danny

Do you notice any change in PQ as a result of using the receiver as a component switch? I've got a AVR525 that has 2 component inputs and one output that would make switching between DVD and cable easier since I could use a single input on the television and let the receiver switch both the audio and video with a singel butom push. Maybe I'll pick up an additional set of component cables and give it a try.

I guess I'm saying "yes" there is a change in PQ as far as my game consoles are concerned (as stated in my previous post). I don't have anything else attached through the component cables, and my only other device attached (via S-Vid) is my TiVo. I really can't say that I've noticed a change in PQ for that device, though. Certainly it is not worse but I could not say off-hand whether it is better.

I will be doing some separate testing later today or tomorrow. I plan to test on the following:

1) Old Xbox through receiver -- PQ problems persist?
2) New Xbox straight to TV -- PQ problems persist?

Danny

Sorry, I though you had a DVD player or digital cable box also going through the receiver...I suspect there might be a decrease in PQ from these sources sinc ethe wouldn't expect the video switcher to be that great. It sounds like some level of filtering helps with your game boxes though.

There won't be any degredation using a receiver for component video switching. 1080i and 720p both require only about 37 MHz of bandwidth, and I haven't seen a receiver below this (actually below 40 MHz). The new Xbox is likely what fixed the problem. The Xbox is now on its third video encoder, each made by a different company. I wouldn't be surprised if there are issues raised or addressed in each. The original Xboxes used Conexant encoders. Later Xboxes used Focus encoders. The newest Xboxes use one marked Xcalibur (although I don't know who actually designed or produces this chip).

Does anyone know if the 32" model has a 16:9 enhanced mode like the Sony's?

Originally posted by Setzer
Does anyone know if the 32" model has a 16:9 enhanced mode like the Sony's?

if you are referring to the ability to still show the full 18nn x 1080 pixels when letterboxed, the consensus on the forum is 'YES--the 32" sanyo can do it'

This was discussed in this forum (or the last one) somewhere...i think the way they ensured it was the fact that the letterboxes black doesn't change brightness when it is adjusted in the settings.

i must have called about 10 walmarts and i finally found one, and hour away no less, that had one widescreen available. I was willing to shell out $747+ tax but i ltook it to the counter and it was $699! plus tax is was $750 way less than i thought. I got it home and it fits perfecct with my entertainment unit and i love the fact that i just plugged in one of my old antennas and it works and i get like 6 hdtv channels, i would get more but the antenna isnt that great. This is so awesome, i cant wait to watch some cool hdtv shows.

I know the feeling...same for me 3 months ago when i picked my 32" up :D

ENJOY!

Originally posted by Setzer
Does anyone know if the 32" model has a 16:9 enhanced mode like the Sony's?

Yes, it does.

I just picked up the 32" the other night and have ran into one thing that bothers me. When I was calibrating the screen with the THX optimizer on the new star wars dvd, I got a yellow oval on the right side and a blue oval on the left side of the screen during the hue/tint screen and the screen that shows you the 2 boxes and a circle inside it, both which have white on the screen which seems to be the only time the 2 ovals show up. The same used to happen on my old 27" RCA, on a light screen I'd get a yellow oval on the right, then a blue on the left if on the screen for a couple minutes. Is this normal? It doesn't seem like it should be. The only thing I can think of is it might be the speaker I have, but they're shielded so I don't see why that'd have an effect. This only happens with white or light colors on the screen for a period of time.

I'll have to get out my copy of Fight Club to see if I see these ovals. I didn't notice them before. I assume the THX tests are the same on this disc.

Anyone else experiance this or is it something on my end? One of the reasons I upgraded to a new tv is the fact that the old one showed these yellow and blue ovals.

The main problems with the 32" set I have is the tilt to the left issue and the green lines from the xbox.

The OTA tuner seems to be very good.
Only one of the two antenna input accepts a digital signal.

The reset button on the remote is crazy, why have this reset button there? Crazy. Two presses and the whole set goes back to factory defult, crazy.

Anyone found a way to tilt the picture yet? Please don't tell me it can't be done. :(

I have the slight shift to the left on the screen, I don't have the green line issue which people don't seem to understand when using the xbox. The reason they get green lines during dvds on the xbox is because the dash and the dvd player aren't progressive. You can upgrade the dash to progressive, but the dvd player remains interlaced. My problem is a different one, I see a yellow spot on the right of the screen if there's a light scene on the screen, and eventually a blue spot on the left.

I have a slight tilt to the right on the 32" TV (the whole right side is lower).

ProjectZero, that sounds like an issue with the speakers or your DVD player. Since it happened with your old TV too I seriously doubt its a problem with the TV. Can you try moving your speakers away from the TV t o see if they are the problem?

Justin_P, I'll give that a shot tonite about moving the speakers. If I recall correctly, I did move the speakers away on the old tv, and the same thing happened. It doesn't have the colors all the time, just when something light is on the tv, if it goes to a medium or dark scene, the colors dissapear. If a light scene comes back, the colors start to fade back in. I'll try to give it a shot tonite anyways, if I can remember.

I believe Avia mentions that you'd get a weird discoloration effect like you're describing if your brightness is set too high. Have you tried calibrating with Avia or DVE?

True...pushing the brightness and contrast to high can result in discoloration of whites. I'd pop in a THX certified CD and run through the THX optimizer to adjust your settings.

maybe when you moved the speakers away last time you never degaused (sp?) your TV. So this time make sure you turn off your TV and turn it back on. Just a thought.

I have a couple questions maybe you guys with a little more knowledge might be able to help.

First I have noticed on the far left of my screen what looks like two vertical lines that are a tad brighter than the rest of the screen. It happens on all signals. Any idea what might cause this or how to fix it? I adjusted overscan down to 3-5% on the sides, and had to move the picture a little to the right. I also adjusted some geometry on the sides. Do you think one of these adjustments could have caused my problem. This is really bugging me.

Second I have a slight bow on the bottom and top of the screens any idea what number in the service menu will correct this. I couldn't find it looking at the manual.

Third my right side of the screen is a tad darker than the left is this fixable?

And finally this is a really stupid question but can you converge a single tube TV like a CRT projector? I wouldn't think you wouldn't need too since there is only one tube but my far right and left edges look like they need converged.

Alright, seems that I should've ran the THX optimizer again after I adjusted the brightness/contrast because the issue looks to be gone. That's the good news. Now the bad. Last night I finally got the hi-def pack for my xbox, hooked it up and everything was in glorious hi-def, 480p, 720p and 1080i. Today I start it up, and now I get horizontal lines that roll across the screen distorting the picture. I tried different cables (generic and monster), tried both inputs on the back of the tv, tried hooking up my replaytv via component, with both sets of cables on both inputs and same problem. Now this is very annoying seeing as how I'm a gamer, and seeing as how last night it worked flawlessly. Buying another hi-def pack isn't really an option seeing as everyone is out of stock of them. Anyone know of what this could be?

Can anybody post the dimensions of the 32" set and save me atrip to Walmart with my measuring tape? I'm moving on Thursday and plan to pick one up from the local Walmart after the move. Going to talk to a our cabinet builder tonight about a built-in entertainment center and need to make sure it can accomodate this set.

Originally posted by ProjectZero
Alright, seems that I should've ran the THX optimizer again after I adjusted the brightness/contrast because the issue looks to be gone. That's the good news. Now the bad. Last night I finally got the hi-def pack for my xbox, hooked it up and everything was in glorious hi-def, 480p, 720p and 1080i. Today I start it up, and now I get horizontal lines that roll across the screen distorting the picture. I tried different cables (generic and monster), tried both inputs on the back of the tv, tried hooking up my replaytv via component, with both sets of cables on both inputs and same problem. Now this is very annoying seeing as how I'm a gamer, and seeing as how last night it worked flawlessly. Buying another hi-def pack isn't really an option seeing as everyone is out of stock of them. Anyone know of what this could be?

Yeah, unfortunately, this set just doesn't display 480p right. :( If you play a game that is in 720p it will be fine but 480p, you will have problems. I just turned out 480p in my dashboard and kept everything else on, 480i through component is still better than S-Video.

CDD, there's a fairly detailed post regarding dimensions burried somewhere in this thread - I read it the other day. So work your way through the 16 pages and you'll find it. FWIW, I think its in the middle somewhere.

Rough dimensions are 36 inches wide, 27 inches high, 22 inches deep. I'm moving in 3 weeks and have't decided if I should buy a stand or try to build something. I'm want the smallest possible corner stand that will accomidate this thing.

ARGGGHHHH....

Has anyone sucessfully gotten an ATI video card to use the dvi - component dongle to the component inputs on this tv. I can get a picture, but is about the size of a piece of paper... more black box surrounding the picture and this tiny little picture.

Additionally, the thing keeps switching resolutions on me. One minute I can play a DVD through zoom player at 1080i... and the next minute I open a movie in DivX and it plays at 480p.

I'm not even using this display for my primary display... I'd just like to be able to play DVDs at resolutions higher than 480p.. and use ffdshow to monkey around with the picture settings.... and have a picture that comes reasonably close to filliing up the entire screen.

If there is anyone here who lives in the Raleigh, NC area who understands this stuff really well (I've tried PowerStrip but am reasonably sure that I'm not using it to its fullest) I would be willing to hire you to help me set this uppppppp....

I spend hours each day.. tinkering.... late at night... my family never sees me any more.... RGGGGG

More odd happenings. I played around with it some more last night, and gradually the lines went away, it was like the set had to "warm up" to the component in. More testing to be done today to see if the problem persists.

Usually rolling horizontal lines is a ground loop problem.

Which would be cause by? Would be fixed by? I didn't touch anything, just let the xbox run on component, fired up some games and the lines slowly went away. I'll be trying it again tonite to see if the problem still persists.

Originally posted by buzzly
ghoulie

Check page 17 in the service manual provided by Strickland and see if your screen tilting problem is actually one of the pincushion problems which can be corrected through service menu. Tilting as in one side of the screen is noticeably higher than the other is very unusual. May be it is the AFC angle pincushion problem.
anyone have a link to this manual? can someone pm me the link?

Originally posted by cdd
Can anybody post the dimensions of the 32" set and save me atrip to Walmart with my measuring tape? I'm moving on Thursday and plan to pick one up from the local Walmart after the move. Going to talk to a our cabinet builder tonight about a built-in entertainment center and need to make sure it can accomodate this set.

http://www.sanyo.com/entertainment/televisions/digital/index.cfm?productID=905
Size (W x H x D)
35" x 27" x 22.4"
You should make sure the entertainment center can accomodate a much larger set. There are MANY posts from people that can't puchase a set bigger than X. Don't box yourself in.

Originally posted by pen25
anyone have a link to this manual? can someone pm me the link?

Look on the 1st page of this thread for the link to the service manual and the redone page 5. Also a link to the original thread.

kick but thx..

Hi everyone. I'm glad to hear you guys are enjoying your sets. I am considering getting this set (the 32" 4:3) because of the extremely attractice price, but I have a few concerns:

1. I noticed that this tv doesn't naitively support 720p? I want to use the Xbox high def av pack and alot of my games support 720p. Will I just have to use 480p? and are there any problems with using the xbox with this set and the component cables?

2. I view alot of SD programming, will it look like total crap (Dish Network through S-video)?

3. Will the HD content look too small from about 15 feet in 16:9?

4. Will I be able to easily connect my computer to the tv and use a normal computer resolution like 1024x768? Or will it be more complicated than that?

Thank you in advance

lacharus, i can help with your questions a little

1. I have 3 games that I know of that are 720p (xmen legends, soul calibur 2, tony hawk underground) and they look great. My posts above about issues I'm having are just on my end I believe, nothing to do with the tv not handling the picture or resolution.

2. I watch alot of SD from my replaytv, and it looks great. Not HD quality, but pretty good

3. The HD looks fine in widescreen from about 10 feet, so 15 MIGHT be a little small, but that's personal preference.

4. I haven't done anything on the pc end yet, but you can get a dvi-hdmi adaptor and a dvi cable and hook it up. There's more experianced users in the thread that can help you with the specifics

Ok, now to my issue at hand. After more gaming time, I've noticed the lines come and go. Ferrisg said it might be a ground loop problem, anyone have more info on that for me? Like what can cause it, what could fix it? Or does anyone else have an idea? ( I have jittering horizontal lines that appear on the screen when Im using the component ins. Sometimes it's horrible, sometimes barely noticeable, and sometimes not there.)

Originally posted by ProjectZero
Ok, now to my issue at hand. After more gaming time, I've noticed the lines come and go. Ferrisg said it might be a ground loop problem, anyone have more info on that for me? Like what can cause it, what could fix it? Or does anyone else have an idea? ( I have jittering horizontal lines that appear on the screen when Im using the component ins. Sometimes it's horrible, sometimes barely noticeable, and sometimes not there.)

Do a google search on "ground loop". Try this (http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/video_isolation.html) link. Are there other devices on when you're seeing this? Does turning something off have an effect?

It could also be interference from another device or maybe a nearby radio or TV tower (or refrigerator, or washer). Do you have a rat's nest of cables?

The coming and going points more to interference. These are often very easily seen on dark images, and less so on very light images depending on the severity. Could this explain why they appear to come and go?

Originally posted by Justin_P
I have a couple questions maybe you guys with a little more knowledge might be able to help.

First I have noticed on the far left of my screen what looks like two vertical lines that are a tad brighter than the rest of the screen. It happens on all signals. Any idea what might cause this or how to fix it? I adjusted overscan down to 3-5% on the sides, and had to move the picture a little to the right. I also adjusted some geometry on the sides. Do you think one of these adjustments could have caused my problem. This is really bugging me.

Second I have a slight bow on the bottom and top of the screens any idea what number in the service menu will correct this. I couldn't find it looking at the manual.

Third my right side of the screen is a tad darker than the left is this fixable?

And finally this is a really stupid question but can you converge a single tube TV like a CRT projector? I wouldn't think you wouldn't need too since there is only one tube but my far right and left edges look like they need converged.

you guys have any ideas?

thanks,
Justin

My internal Speakers Buzz as if the case is loose.

The speakers only do this when playing loud, and only with low frequency sounds.

Just posting this as an FYI.

This is not a problem for me, as I normally play my sound thru my HT receiver and speakers, but as my current receiver got hit by lightening, I have to wait for my new receiver (Pioneer VSX-1014) to come im.

Thinking of getting the 30" Sanyo but am a little confused on what I've read about XBOX connected to this set using the HD component adapter from XBOX. In a nut shell what kind of a display can I expect? Will this configuration display 480p from XBOX games minimum? Will it display some in HD if the game supports it? I have a SD TV right now connected with
s-video and it looks great.

A better XBOX display is very important to me when considering an HD purchase.

This tv doesn't display any 480i Xbox DVDs or games well at all, vertical green lines, I think if you have any games that are 480p/720p/1080i, it'll work fine.

hmm....i just tested a 480i game (I-ninja) on the 32" and no green lines at all. Is this just an issue with the 30"?

I have the 32", and my Xbox plays DVDs with green lines every few inches. I'm using the component inputs and HD pack. What inputs are you using?

On the xbox, you need to hack your dashboard to do progressive scan, which will then have the dvd player be progressive scan. I use the component inputs.

Yep, I have the dashboard in 480p, but it still plays DVDs in 480i, the info button on the tv shows this info.

Very obvious green lines with the component cables. Its common in this thread. :(

Folks -

I could use anyone's help here. I purchased the Sanyo Widescreen HT30744 set (30" screen).

I like the set but no matter what I do, there is a green bias in the picture colors. When I use the remote to access "menu" and go to adjust "picture," the TINT control is a single slider. You cannot independently control Red Green and Blue. In order to get rid of this green bias, I have to move the slider so far into the red that everyone's skin looks pink! I watched the presidential debates tonight and John Kerry's hair had a vague green aura to it. Everything has this slightly notable green hue. Its driving me nut. I find teh color and tint control on this set to be VERY basic.

Do other have this problem? My old Sanyo 30" NON-widescreen did not have this problem.

JamesMH, you have to HACK the dashboard, not use the xbox live upgrade. You need a modchip to do it. The hack enables that dashboard AND the dvd player to use 480p.

ProjectZero, ok, I understand now. Thats what I'll have to do then, thanks.

Originally posted by PStewart
Folks -

I could use anyone's help here. I purchased the Sanyo Widescreen HT30744 set (30" screen).

I like the set but no matter what I do, there is a green bias in the picture colors. When I use the remote to access "menu" and go to adjust "picture," the TINT control is a single slider. You cannot independently control Red Green and Blue. In order to get rid of this green bias, I have to move the slider so far into the red that everyone's skin looks pink! I watched the presidential debates tonight and John Kerry's hair had a vague green aura to it. Everything has this slightly notable green hue. Its driving me nut. I find teh color and tint control on this set to be VERY basic.

Do other have this problem? My old Sanyo 30" NON-widescreen did not have this problem.

You're the first complaint I've seen about green push. Have you configured the set with a calibration disc? Using the settings I posted early in this thread will take you a long way to eliminating this push (dialing back the color saturation which is way overblown from the factory) and greatly improve PQ.

And don't forget that having your brightness set too high can incroduce color into your picture. First step would be to pop in a THX certified DVD and run through the THX Optimizer.

Originally posted by housecor
You're the first complaint I've seen about green push. Have you configured the set with a calibration disc? Using the settings I posted early in this thread will take you a long way to eliminating this push (dialing back the color saturation which is way overblown from the factory) and greatly improve PQ.

Originally posted by housecor
You're the first complaint I've seen about green push. Have you configured the set with a calibration disc? Using the settings I posted early in this thread will take you a long way to eliminating this push (dialing back the color saturation which is way overblown from the factory) and greatly improve PQ.


I hate to ask this, but what is a configuration disk?

PStewart

Hi all, one of my first (probably first) posts here. I've just been hiding out, but when I saw this thread I decided to buy the TV and see what I like (my goal is to get a Panny L500 projector this tv is just a hold over till then). I have a hacked xbox with the monster component cables and a chromabugged dvd player(which is fine until I can drop a good amount of money on a real dvd player).

Anyway, for me so far on the xbox I've had no issues, but it is hacked with an alternate dash, but XBMC works great and games look awesome too.

I went through the service menu and fixed 90% of my geometry problems(still a little tweaking left i think) and turned down the redpush. I wish I wasn't colorblind, cause I have to wait for a friend to come over to help me get the colors straightened out. The tv looks great, I have Dish running through my SA Tivo(hacked, upped the recording bitrate) though it makes me want to get the new Dish HD PVR soon.

All I can say is for $700(no tax, gotta love NH...) this TV is a hard deal to beat.

so i got my xbox hi def pack and some component cables and i too have green horizontal lines. Sometimes they are bad other times not even noticable. If there is any fix maybe someone can post it. Also another issue im having is the xbox dash board looks like crap, its got a bunch of verticle lines and its a bit fuzzy but when i put a game in it looks fine except for the occasion green line. Any suggestions?

make sure you have the newest dashboard, HD support was not in the first few builds, and from what I remember only the last couple builds support HD.

i have xbox live and ive downloaded all the updates and stuff, its really wierd the games run fine but the dash is fuzzy and looks crappy.

Have you enabled 480p in the dash? I think it's holding the shoulder buttons and clicking the thumbsticks to switch the dash into 480p mode.

Originally posted by ProjectZero
Have you enabled 480p in the dash? I think it's holding the shoulder buttons and clicking the thumbsticks to switch the dash into 480p mode.
holy crap, you rock. That worked but now i still have green and red horizontal lines :mad: i hope theres some way to get rid of them. Somone said you could run a reciever to catch the xbox components then run components out to the tv, would that fix the line issue?

you guys think higher quallity cables would fix the green line issue or is it just a fact with this tv?

I literally just picked up an HT30744 from WalMart. It was too good a deal to pass up. Would it be worth my while to pick up a copy of Sound & Visions Home Theater Tune-Up DVD to calibrate this puppy. It appears to be geared towards beginners like myself and my local Best Buy has it for under $15.

Also, as I won't be seeing Comcast for a couple of days is there any cabling I should prepurchase or do they supply everything.

Thanks in advance ...

i think they supply everything, if you have an antenna you can hook it up right now and get a few hd channels. Time Warner is coming out on wedensday for me but im getting like 4 hd channels even 2 channels that my cable company isnt going to provide me with, WB and KCAL

I just bought the Sanyo HT30744 and have been pleased with it so far. However, I do have a question for those that own it as well.

I have a Panasonic RP-82 DVD player (progressive scan and 16:9 enabled) connected to the Component 3 inputs on the TV. When I play a widescreen movie, I see black bars all around the picture(i.e. postage stamp) when the "Pix Shape" is set to Normal. When I change it to Full, the picture fills the left and right sides and doesn't appear to stretch the image any. Is this normal for the TV and if not, is there some setting that I overlooked on either the dvd player or TV?

Also, Does anyone know if this TV shows a 480p image as true 480p or does it upconvert to 1080i? While playing a DVD, it shows 720x480(60P). However, my digital signals show as either 1920x1080(60I) or 1280x720(60P).

Thanks for any input

the digital signals are going to be one of the two that you listed since those are the only true hi def signals. The jury is still out on whether or not this thing does any signal conversion. It is normal for you tv to put black bars around it when it is in "normal" mode. Full is basically showing a widescreen image unaltered. Normal mode is for displaying 4:3 content with black bars on the side.

Originally posted by summ
you guys think higher quallity cables would fix the green line issue or is it just a fact with this tv?

You know, I wonder what version Xbox you have. From what I remember, the video output chip changed somewhere around version 1.4 or 1.5. I have a 1.1 xbox and with the monster component cables. I have yet to see any weird behaviour with colors, etc. I've played 2 games(both HD, dunno if that would matter) and watched a bunch of avi's and mpg's via XBMC.

I'd say try picking up a set of monster cables from a place that will let you return them open(best buy will) and see if that fixes it.(if it does, return em and find em for as cheap as you can somewhere else =)

Thanks oryan_dunn. Because of the low cost, I wouldn't be surprised if all the signals (480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i) were upconverted to 1080i. Even if they are, it still gets a really nice picture, imo.

ok finally got my set displaying hd. what a picture. and this is all on defalt and set to warm. i just wished my providers here in tulsa stopped displaying everyting in 4:3 but when it comes to actual network broadcasting they do the correct 16:9. i was having a problem with my antenna thinking i was too far down in a hole and too many trees.. but after i tried to put a new coax connector on my cable i noticed the cable i had been using had some corrosion. it was my old sat dish cable before i went with dish. ran a new cable and bam good signal. now i need a rotor but il prob just tweak the direction since i cant get fox.. for all the detractors out there on this set.. dont know about them but i think they have too much time on thier hands..

pen25, I live just south of Tulsa and bought my HT30744 on Saturday. Right now, I am using a $10-15 set of rabbit ears and I get all of the available Digital OTA channels except PBS(KOED). I get a signal strength of about 3/4 for all the channels I get.

well i tweaked the direction a tad and am now getting fox.. i am on brookside so im sitting in a little valley. im down about 100foot behind the ridge that is lewis right there on 44.. as refrence you crest that hill and your level with the camelot.. but i am getting hd. BTW are you getting full screen on cbs?? im getting 4:3 on the denver game.. also whats the deal with 8.1 having the grey bars?? i should have bought the 32"

I am on a hill in between Glenpool and Bixby. The Broncos game on CBS was in 4:3, however, the earlier Patriots-Bills game was 16:9. As for the grey bars on 8.1, I have no idea. The next time I talk to my brother, I'll have to ask him since he works at Channel 8.

thx.. now it seems cold case is 4:3 hrmm all this hd is kinda getting confusing haha.. it says 1920*1080(60I) i seen the same on the first game today in 16:9 anyway picture looks great..

HD can be confusing. One source of confusion comes from the fact that the source and broadcast my not be the same. Eg. Your local broadcaster will only broadcast in one format for HD, either 720p or 1080i. They will output this signal all the time (there may be rare cases where this isn't true, but most of the time it is). So the broadcaster has to broadcast at thier selected resolution and if it is an HD signal, they will broadcast a 16:9 picture. If the source (program) is also HD 16:9 this works out well as it fills the 16:9 window of the broadcaster and uses the resolution of their selected HD format. Where it gets confusing is when the source isn't HD or 16:9. Almost all programing that isn't primetime or sports is SD 4:3. Since the broadcaster consistanly broadcasts in 16:9 HD, thats what your tv will tell you it is receiving. The broadcaster upconverts this 4:3 program to their selected res and adds black bars to fill out the widescreen frame. So technically, yes it still is an HD signal, but the material is upconverted SD 4:3. I hope that is as clear as mud.

Ryan

yea its allot clearer... cant wait till everyone is on hd.. and i mean true hd.. now if the gov will just step in and say ok you will broadcast at 720p or 1080i will solve allot of the problems,

This is a response that I just received from support@sanyotv.com concerning display formats.

"Handling different signal formats

Sanyo Digital HDTV models (HT-----) will receive and process any of the
18 standard formats that have been approved for digital broadcasts, from
480i through 1080i. All signals (analog or digital) are displayed as 1080i."

It appears from this that DVDs at 480p are up-converted to 1080i. Despite this, my DVDs look really nice.

Man, it'd be nice if they could give us the same answer twice.

Originally posted by Jdubyac300
This is a response that I just received from support@sanyotv.com concerning display formats.

"Handling different signal formats

Sanyo Digital HDTV models (HT-----) will receive and process any of the
18 standard formats that have been approved for digital broadcasts, from
480i through 1080i. All signals (analog or digital) are displayed as 1080i."

It appears from this that DVDs at 480p are up-converted to 1080i. Despite this, my DVDs look really nice.

I think this is not true. I hooked up my Daewoo 480p (progressive) yesterday to COMPONENT 3 input and playing around by switch between INTERLACE/PROGRESSIVE scan. Each time I pressed the INFO button, the display show 480i and 480p. If it upconvert to 1080i, than the information should be 1080i. It appear to me the TV capable of handing 480i-1080i but not upconvert to 1080i. I also want to share with other member that the build-in tuner is less sensitive than the Zenith HDV420. There are few channels passes through from the behind of the antenna that I could receive with HDV420 tuner, but not the Sanyo.

Anyone having sound sync issues... it's just slightly off but somewhat annoying. I know I saw it mentioned on here atleast once before. Any way to fix this in the service menu or any other way? If the sound was ahead of the video i could delay it on my reciever but it's the other way around. I can live with it I guess but any suggestions would be appreciated. I have the 32".

- Tom

Sound sync issues are a production issue and have nothing to do with this set. You'll notice it only occurs on certain shows on rare occasions. When you notice it, check the HDTV programming forum and you'll find others complaining about the same show.

Originally posted by speedy777
I think this is not true. I hooked up my Daewoo 480p (progressive) yesterday to COMPONENT 3 input and playing around by switch between INTERLACE/PROGRESSIVE scan. Each time I pressed the INFO button, the display show 480i and 480p. If the it upconvert to 1080i, than the information should be 1080i. It appear to me the TV capable of handing 480i-1080i but not upconvert to 1080i. I also want to share with other member that the build-in tuner is less sensitive than the Zenith HDV420. There are few channels passes through from the behind of the antenna that I could receive with HDV420 tuner, but not the Sanyo.

The TV info only shows what the input signal is. Whether it scans everything as 1080i has nothing to do with this. I should note that you also can see it say 720p on something like a Fox NFL broadcast, but it's a near certainty that this set does not scan 720p.

Originally posted by ferrisg
The TV info only shows what the input signal is. Whether it scans everything as 1080i has nothing to do with this. I should note that you also can see it say 720p on something like a Fox NFL broadcast, but it's a near certainty that this set does not scan 720p.

So what you're telling me is true, than the VCR (composite) signal should automatic upconvert to 1080i. For the price, I doubt it does all that.

Actually it is cheaper to have it upconvert those signals and use a tube that scans one rate, than to have a tube that scans many rates. My philips HDTV will either upconvert 480i to 480p or 1080i depending on what I choose in the menu.

I have voOM satellite service and I have discovered that the Digital Tuner in this box doesn't seem to be as robust as the OTA tuner in my satellite STB. When I scan, I don't get all the channels and I have dropoffs and pixelization much more frequently with this TV than with voOM Motorola box. I am wondering if anyone else has notoced a difference or maybe I just have a faulty unit?

I have an xbox and a gamecube connected up through component. The GC is nearly perfect at 480p, but when I hook up the xbox I get some fuzz. Horizontal blurriness maybe? I saw the same thing with a dvb318, worse in upconverting modes. Any thoughts? There is less distortion at 480i on the xbox, but it is still there.

Do you think it is a cable issue? I have a cheap xbox cable, but my cable for the 318 was pretty decent shielded stuff. tv problem? any thoughts on things I can try? I tried moving the tv and xbox to different outlets, one constant power, and didn't see any difference.

Originally posted by dfinberg
I have an xbox and a gamecube connected up through component. The GC is nearly perfect at 480p, but when I hook up the xbox I get some fuzz. Horizontal blurriness maybe? I saw the same thing with a dvb318, worse in upconverting modes. Any thoughts? There is less distortion at 480i on the xbox, but it is still there.

Do you think it is a cable issue? I have a cheap xbox cable, but my cable for the 318 was pretty decent shielded stuff. tv problem? any thoughts on things I can try? I tried moving the tv and xbox to different outlets, one constant power, and didn't see any difference.

Can you give me some detail how you hook the GC to the component input? I currently have my in the Video2 (composite). I am using the stand cable that come with the GC which in tend for composite hookup. The component input require 3 video wires (Y, Cb, and Cr).

if you have an old gamecube it has a digital video out. You can buy the cable from nintendo.com or lik-sang.com Newer cube's don't have the digital out though. Then hold 'b' on startup for most games.

Originally posted by dfinberg
if you have an old gamecube it has a digital video out. You can buy the cable from nintendo.com or lik-sang.com Newer cube's don't have the digital out though. Then hold 'b' on startup for most games.

My GC about 1 year old. If signal is upconvert to 1080i as other mention, it probably wouldn't matter. By the way, the digital cable sale about $40 from lik-sang.com. Thanks for answer the question so quickly.

Originally posted by dfinberg
I have an xbox and a gamecube connected up through component. The GC is nearly perfect at 480p, but when I hook up the xbox I get some fuzz. Horizontal blurriness maybe? I saw the same thing with a dvb318, worse in upconverting modes. Any thoughts? There is less distortion at 480i on the xbox, but it is still there.

Do you think it is a cable issue? I have a cheap xbox cable, but my cable for the 318 was pretty decent shielded stuff. tv problem? any thoughts on things I can try? I tried moving the tv and xbox to different outlets, one constant power, and didn't see any difference.
are you getting any horizontal colored lines ? i can stand the "fuzziness" its not that bad but i cant stand the green line on my set while displaying my xbox.

No, I don't see any green lines.

Originally posted by speedy777
My GC about 1 year old. If signal is upconvert to 1080i as other mention, it probably wouldn't matter. By the way, the digital cable sale about $40 from lik-sang.com. Thanks for answer the question so quickly.

It would still make quite a difference. If you use a better signal to start with you'll get a better signal out. Just because a signal is upconverted doesn't mean it will look good. You will very likely get noticeable improvement going to progressive scan on the games.

so i got a hdtv cable box and i noticed some fuzziness on the screen aswell. I guess the component inputs are a bit weak

Fuzziness with HD cable channels or others? It's common for HD STB units to actually have worse SD PQ. My HD STB (Moto 6200) had a very good DH and digital picture over component on the 32".

Originally posted by summ
so i got a hdtv cable box and i noticed some fuzziness on the screen aswell. I guess the component inputs are a bit weak

I think I also see fuzziness when I watch a DVD with component. S - video and composite cables look better. I asked a friend who isn't really into home theaters which was clearer and he said the S-video looked better than component.

Do I need to get a progressive scan dvd player in order to get the best video quality ? or is the 3:2 pulldown the same as progressive scan (this tv has the feature). Thanks.

You would need progressive for the best quality, but since progressive has to go over component (or hdmi), that might be an issue. Someone earlier noted they had luck with a reciever in the path eliminating the signal, I plan on looking up the specs on it to see what might be making a difference. I can't think of anything. Its not typical, its more like the scan lines are jumping - multiple pixels off. really bad upconversion to 1080i? That doesn't seem right either, since I saw it with the dvb318 at 1080i.

3:2 pulldown is not the same thing as progressive scan, but most dvd players with progressive scan do it. I haven't seen any evidence for or against the tv doing it itself, and given sanyo's responses, who can tell.

it could be cable quality, i had a lot of fuzziness when i ran some cheapo component cables but it got a lot better but not fully gone with some better cables. Also my green line has gotten a lot more faint and fatter but defianitly a lot better than before with better cables.

Does this tv have alot of problems or its just factory defects cause ive been reading threw this and there seems to be alot of problems like the green lines on component video and fuzzy picture. Im really interested in geting it but not if it has alot of problems, Is there any of you that it works perfectly for? Thanks

I just bought this set and am also seeing some fuzziness with the Component cables...I bought some cheap ones and I figured they were just that..cheap...so I took those back and got some THX Comp. cables for about $30...and it looks a little better but still a bit fuzzy...

S-Video looks better than Comp. on this set?

works perfect for me via my htpc and hdmi converter to dvi-dvi cable

well I just tried it with S-Video and it made no difference...agh!

so, i just bought the HT32744 and for the most part it seems to be working well, except...

i have a scientific atlanta 3250hd cable box from adelphia in orlando. i hooked the cable box up to the tv with an DVI to HDMI cable. the high definition channels look great, but when i change to a standard definition channel i lose the vertical hold and the channel just starts scrolling. if i use the zoom feature on the cable box the scrolling stops, but then the picture doesn't quite fit on the screen.

anyone have any ideas i can try to fix this, or any thoughts on if this is the way it's supposed to work. i would really appreciate it.

btw, thanks for originally posting this here. this thread, and the original, are the reason i bought this tv.

Originally posted by nick2003
Does this tv have alot of problems or its just factory defects cause ive been reading threw this and there seems to be alot of problems like the green lines on component video and fuzzy picture. Im really interested in geting it but not if it has alot of problems, Is there any of you that it works perfectly for? Thanks

I can't say for sure, but our display tv at our store seems fine. It doesn't have any of the problems mentioned here, but I haven't tried an xbox with component on it. Just remember, people will be more likely to speak out when they are not happy with something or something goes wrong than they are if it is perfectly good for them. Look at other tv threads here. They all seem to have problems of some sort, but I don't think that any of them are bad tvs. My philips has negative feedback about some vertical lines. I see them on my set, but they are usually not distracting. I ended up keeping it, because I knew if I got a different one, it would have problems worse than what I had. Its unfortunate that they cannot make a product without defects. After 60 some years of CRT technology, one would think that they would have it under control.

Originally posted by oryan_dunn
I can't say for sure, but our display tv at our store seems fine. It doesn't have any of the problems mentioned here, but I haven't tried an xbox with component on it. Just remember, people will be more likely to speak out when they are not happy with something or something goes wrong than they are if it is perfectly good for them. Look at other tv threads here. They all seem to have problems of some sort, but I don't think that any of them are bad tvs. My philips has negative feedback about some vertical lines. I see them on my set, but they are usually not distracting. I ended up keeping it, because I knew if I got a different one, it would have problems worse than what I had. Its unfortunate that they cannot make a product without defects. After 60 some years of CRT technology, one would think that they would have it under control.

Welcome to the world of electronics. There just to many problems to account for but the most common problems are:circuit components, poor design, signal leak, heat, etc..

I'm taking back my Sanyo tomorrow...those damn distortion/fuzzy lines were annoying the hell out of me!

the fuzzy lines are hardly noticable with quality cables, i would recommend going with the hdmi cable or dvi-hdmi cable if you plan on using an hd cable box or something. Im happy with my tv and i think im going to keep it, i really need to test another xbox to see if the green line is my xbox version or just the tv.

I dont have HD cable...I dont watch TV much...I was mainly using this set for DVD viewing...and I bought frickin THX Monster Cables...if those dont look great nothing will! I give up!

Originally posted by bigdude
I dont have HD cable...I dont watch TV much...I was mainly using this set for DVD viewing...and I bought frickin THX Monster Cables...if those dont look great nothing will! I give up!

Can this TV pickup HDTV from Comcast Cable? I don't have Comcast and not intend to get it but just curious.

Originally posted by speedy777
Can this TV pickup HDTV from Comcast Cable? I don't have Comcast and not intend to get it but just curious.

Depends if your Comcast is encrypting the signal. If they aren't then the internal QAM tuner in the set will pick it up. If they're encrypting, you'll need to get a set top box from Comcast.

Originally posted by bigdude
I dont have HD cable...I dont watch TV much...I was mainly using this set for DVD viewing...and I bought frickin THX Monster Cables...if those dont look great nothing will! I give up!
You probably got a lemon. My is working fine for me vcr and DVD. I don't have an Xbox so not sure the green line appear. Both gamecube and ps2 work fine for me through composite. I don't the digital cable cable so couldn't test them through component input.

On my HT30744, the Video 1, Video 2, Component 2, and Component 3 inputs all seem normal. I haven't had a chance to check the Xbox yet because I can't find the Microsoft High Definition Kit. I have tried a Mad Catz HD kit (has Composite, S-Video, and Component) and was getting a bad (grainy) picture using the component cables but was getting a clear picture using S-Video on the same junction box. I think I remember there being complaints about the component video with the Mad Catz.

How I have it hooked up now:

Video 1 -------> VCR (composite)
Video 2 -------> Dish Network (S-Video)
Compo 2 ------> DVD (Component)
Compo 3 ------> DVD (Component)
HDMI ----------> empty

I get clear pictures using Component 2 and Component 3 with both DVD players (480p). However, I do occasionally see green diagonal lines when I watch satellite using a coax cable from the Dish receiver through a VCR to the coax input on the TV.

I just wanted to know if I should get this TV or a regular analog set. I have regular cable (RF), and plan to use it for games (PLAYSTATION2) and DVDs (using my progressive scan PLAYSTATION2 with component cables) for now. I don't want to put all that money if what I have will not look better on this TV than an analog TV. So for those who use their PLAYSTATION2 with component cables for games and DVDs please post how it performs. I am also fussy about geometry (if vertical ligns are straight). I had a TV (SAMSUNG) before that had ligns like this on the sides ) ( and it bothered me. So if you can help me out I would really appreciate it. Also does it have a tilt feature? If not, can you fix it in the service menu? I always bought Sony products so I don't know how Sanyo performs...

thank you all for this great thread ;)

I would say go for Analog...HDTV just has too many bugs that the companies seem to have not cared to work out...Analog is perfectly find for my DVD viewing...and mine doesnt even have Component!

I think analog has just as many problems, its just that one, not as many people that buy analog frequent these boards; two, analog is cheaper and the expectations are lower; and three, the flaws are harder to see since it is analog. I'd say go with whatever makes sense to you and that is in your budget.

I'd say the geometry isn't perfect, but its pretty good after playing with the service menu.

I'm picking up comcast HD fine, the networks, bravo, the music channels, and some on demand channels. Nothing else.

I got an HDMI upconverting player yesterday, and haven't seen any of the distortion I was seeing over component. Maybe I'll grab a batter xbox cable and see what happens.

I think most of this is people are really looking for problems, and for fixes. The quality is less at 480i so it is harder to spot flaws. Not to mention people here are self selecting for problems.

Hey, everyone...long time reader, first time poster...

I've had the HT30744 since the Olympics. I picked it up at $747 at a second Wal-Mart after the first one was nice enough to call around. Someone with whom I work saw it and liked it so much he bought one as well. His was $697 but he had to work harder to find one.

I guess I can add two things to the discussion now:


1. Here in Jacksonville, plugging my Comcast cable into the on-board DTV tuner, I can get INHD and INHD2, ESPN HD, Fine Living, DIY, and the local ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, and PBS.

There are also a number of Music Choice channels (music I don't like, my luck), as well as HTV (latino music videos) and that annoying waste of bandwidth known as the NBA League Pass Preview Channel. But I am content to stare at just about anything on INHD! This is awesome. I am inviting some friends over for the replay of the Yellowcard concert Wednesday night. OK, moving on...


2. I was able to fix the pincushion problem and the overall picture using the service manual and tips from all of you, but I still get the following:
--a 1/8" tilt to the left
--especially squeezed edges on widescreen, especially on the right, but not so bad on the left


Unless I missed it, I haven't seen any tips or fixes for either of those on the board. Can anyone help? For the tilt, I called Sanyo and was told that the set may have been dropped somewhere along the line. But I find it hard to believe I can't fix that myself. Any ideas? I can live with the tilt, I guess, but the "right side squeeze" is annoying at times.

Thanks for anything y'all can tell me. I hope I can pitch in and help all the other Sanyo owners, too, as soon as I know what I'm talking about! ;)

I saw that this subject was addressed some time ago, but my problem may have a different cause as I do not have stereo speakers located near the tv. I have the 32" HT32744 Sanyo and have noticed that when viewing a picture with a white or light colored background that the left third of the picture is a bluish white, the center is white and the left third of the screen has a yellowish tint. It was very noticeable during the Colts football game when there was a close up of several players, the one on the left was bluish white while the one on the right appeared yellowish. I have tried all of the user controls, but nothing works. Do I need a service tech or is this even correctable? I am a complete novice in this area......please help!!!!

Should I get this TV for gaming (PS2) and DVDs? Also want to use it for regular cable.

Sorry, my previous post regarding the yellow tint should had stated that the right third of the pic has a yellowish tint.

Originally posted by Nylok
Should I get this TV for gaming (PS2) and DVDs? Also want to use it for regular cable.

Yes. (Is that what you wanted to hear? ;)).

There are a TON of factors that go into your buying purchase. I am a HUGE fan of this TV as an entry level HD unit. I have had it for over 5 months and have had NO major issues. That being said, here are some factors, that if you answer yes to, I think you should:

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Do you only have $750 to spend
Do you need a new TV or are you just wondering
Will you ever use the true 'HD' features? (dvds & regular cable won't 'fully' utilize the power of this tv, and gaming reviews seem a bit mixed.)
[/list=1]

If you aren't going to use the TV for HD no don't buy it. You are better off waiting till the technology gets better/cheaper (this TV alone has dropped $50 in price in 5 months), and the programming becomes more available. Also, if you have a nice TV now, there is very little reason to upgrade for the use you are planning. Remember change= risk, so if you like what you got, why switch.

Originally posted by sterno3
Yes. (Is that what you wanted to hear? ;)).



Sterno - How are you watching HD? Antenna, HD box from charter or plugging charter into the back of your tv?

I'm in Madison too.

Reason why I want to know is... My Sony flat screen had horrible geometry so I brought it back. After reaserching all of the analog sets ( Toshiba, Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, JVC...) I know the only one I'm interested in is the Sony, BUT I saw this set (the 27'' model Sanyo HDTV, I live in Canada) at my local Wal-Mart for around 30$ (100$ off sale) more than the analog Sony (when the Sony isn't on sale that is) set. I want it mainly for games and dvds... The Sony had a great picture but for 30$ more I had to do research. After all this research I'm still not sure what to get :confused: .

Nylok, the answer to your question is no.

You are much better off sticking with a TV such as regular Sony analog WEGA sets if you go ps2/dvd. This is from personal experience with this TV. PS2 looks like crap compared to a regular analog set. Anyone try and play Kingdom Hearts or NFS: HP2 and you'll see the reason - horrible jaggies.

DVD is also no better than a good analog Sony set.

Antenna (simple powered RCA vhf/uhf). I have it on the 2nd floor of my house I am actually in Cottage Grove. I have charter Internet (no cable). One day I tried plugging in the cable and the QAM tuner picked up a bunch of music channels on demand channels and 3 HD channels (abc, nbc, cbs)...there were a couple of other channels, but I don't have much patience for it.

By the way here a link to the local madison thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=405999


Originally posted by Amigo-2k
Sterno - How are you watching HD? Antenna, HD box from charter or plugging charter into the back of your tv?

I'm in Madison too.

Thanks for the info!

I was running a simple set of rabbit ears (I'm in Fitchburg, 4.5 miles from the towers) and I was still having problems with HD coming in and out. So, I attached the my cable (I have digital cable and modem) and I found the same as you. That is CBS, ABC, NBC and a bunch of music channels. I'm just going to keep it like this for awhile.

I still see very little "snow" on the tv when I watch dvd on s and component video. It is barely noticeable. I tried it out with a progressive scan dvd and the picture was impressive. I was disapointed to learn that the tv has no input for composite audio when it comes to component videos. They expect you to connect the source to a receiver, not to the tv. Sucks for me because I have no room for the surround sound in the living room. Wal Mart has a 90 day policy right? Thanks.

Originally posted by STEAMHL2
Nylok, the answer to your question is no.

You are much better off sticking with a TV such as regular Sony analog WEGA sets if you go ps2/dvd. This is from personal experience with this TV. PS2 looks like crap compared to a regular analog set. Anyone try and play Kingdom Hearts or NFS: HP2 and you'll see the reason - horrible jaggies.

DVD is also no better than a good analog Sony set.

gotcha! thanks a lot STEAMHL2!

;)

Originally posted by matrixrok10
I still see very little "snow" on the tv when I watch dvd on s and component video. It is barely noticeable. I tried it out with a progressive scan dvd and the picture was impressive. I was disapointed to learn that the tv has no input for composite audio when it comes to component videos. They expect you to connect the source to a receiver, not to the tv. Sucks for me because I have no room for the surround sound in the living room. Wal Mart has a 90 day policy right? Thanks.

Read your manual. The audio composite input for component2 share A/V2 and component3 has it own input next to it.

Originally posted by dmahalek
Sorry, my previous post regarding the yellow tint should had stated that the right third of the pic has a yellowish tint.

I too can see the screen divided into thirds if I freeze a solid white background (like a calibration DVD). I think mine may be much less than what you describe. For me, it is something between yellow and green, and only part of the top right third. This "blob" isn't visible with anything except white and diminishes significantly with power cycles. I assume it is the result of the degauss done when it powers on. It will reappear when the TV is left off for hours. I also noticed the "thirds" on another 32744 with a bright white background, but it was more a while level issue. The "blob" really isn't visible on mine in normal viewing. The "white" backgrounds from my satellite receiver's menus have a slight grey in them. The only time I've seen it is with calibration DVDs. Don't know that it helps you any, but I do see "thirds".

Originally posted by speedy777
Read your manual. The audio composite input for component2 share A/V2 and component3 has it own input next to it.

Thanks a lot. Woot woot!:)

I think the discoloration on pure white screens is generally indicative of having the white level set far too high. Avia even cautions that this is "dangerously" high, I think for phosphor burn reasons.

Start by running through the THX Optimizer on any THX certified DVD. Having the picture (contrast) and brightness set too high can cause discoloration like you describe.

Originally posted by dmahalek
I saw that this subject was addressed some time ago, but my problem may have a different cause as I do not have stereo speakers located near the tv. I have the 32" HT32744 Sanyo and have noticed that when viewing a picture with a white or light colored background that the left third of the picture is a bluish white, the center is white and the left third of the screen has a yellowish tint. It was very noticeable during the Colts football game when there was a close up of several players, the one on the left was bluish white while the one on the right appeared yellowish. I have tried all of the user controls, but nothing works. Do I need a service tech or is this even correctable? I am a complete novice in this area......please help!!!!

Another newbie question:

Just hooked it up to a progressive scan dvd player and info lists it as 480(60i). Does that mean it is already 480p or is that 480i (cus some hdtv stations have 60p) ? Thanks.

480(60i) is 480i. No question is a stupid one if you've done your fair share of work with the search button.

You need to make sure you have the DVD player set to output progressive...either a switch on the back or setting in the user menu. Also, you must use component cables to pass progressive...you didn't say how your connected it.

Originally posted by matrixrok10
Another newbie question:

Just hooked it up to a progressive scan dvd player and info lists it as 480(60i). Does that mean it is already 480p or is that 480i (cus some hdtv stations have 60p) ? Thanks.

Originally posted by TH3_FRB
You need to make sure you have the DVD player set to output progressive...either a switch on the back or setting in the user menu. Also, you must use component cables to pass progressive...you didn't say how your connected it.

I set it to 16 x 9 and progressive output to enabled, using component cables. I thought that was it but I had to change video output from 480i to 480p on a different setup menu. Thanks.

If someone has a modded xbox that they are connecting by component to this tv, I'd really appreciate it if you could send me a PM. Have a few questions to ask :p

These 30" and 32" Sanyo TVs seem like great values. Is there a similar great value somewhere on a 36" (4:3) TV?

I have a question for those who have used the service menu to adjust geometry problems with the Sanyo HT30744 HDTV. Using the service menu, I have been able to get the sides of 4:3 images vertically straight with an identical width on the left and right sides. However, when watching 2.35:1 DVDs, I notice the upper left side is about 1/8" lower than the upper right side. The lower left side is about 1/8" lower than the lower right side. I have tried the "Pin Phase" and "AFC Angle" in the service menu with no luck.

Is there a vertical tilt-like control to rotate the entire image?


Thanks

After looking at it some more, it appears that the right side of the letterbox image bows (twists) up. Is there any way I can fix this myself.

Over the last two months, I read practically all posts in this thread as well as the old thread. Thanks to all those who contributed. I also downloaded the owners manual and the service manual and read the owners manual very, very carefully. All this great information helped me to decide to buy this wonderful TV, the 30" model, about two weeks ago.

As a payback for what I've gained from reading this thread, I'm writing this rather long summary as a means to help other picky TV shoppers decide whether they can live with this set.

I've spent several long evenings tweaking the gray scale and geometry settings in the service menu, then many hours viewing the results and re-tweaking. Items I corrected/improved included the original green cast in shadow areas and a little red push, and over-scan and pincushion adjustments.

For making these improvements, I used the service manual and other posts here as references. I used the test patterns on the AVIA and DVE DVDs as well as the THX section of the Star Wars VI DVD. Various gray bar patterns displayed from these DVDs were adjusted such that a panel of well trained eyes agreed that the gray patterns displayed minimal hints of greenness or brownness. Yes, the eyes can do it, but it takes lots upon lots of patience and practice. The first quick and easy way to improve this TV out of the box is to set the contrast no more than 1/3 across the scale.


I must say that I'm completely satisfied with this TV. It really has a great wow factor. The HDTV picture for some programs is absolutely stunning, and I am very picky. Because of their lower resolution, DVDs are no challenge, and regular cable is not bad, depending on the channel. Whenever the colors seem off, it always turns out to be the program and not the TVs fault. Sometimes switching among the normal, cool and warm color enhancer settings can improve program color variations.

I've found no means to correct a 1/8" clockwise tilt of the entire picture, but no one can notice it unless a test pattern is displayed and closely examined. The only other remaining issue is that computer output via DVI to HDMI is moderately over-scanned and I haven't been able to correct it with PC software, but this is also a non-issue because I don't yet have a real need for PC output. Watching DVDs from the PC is great, but average home DVD players do just as well, plus they all have remote controls.

Thus, the only remaining issues are the inherent design limitations of the TV, most of which I knew from reading the manual before purchase. These include (1) the lack of means to switch between digital cable and digital over the air channels without the lengthly process of having to switch antenna inputs and rescan the channels, (2) no scale for adjusting volume, but I use my ears, (3) weak speakers, but I use the digital output to an A/V receiver when I'm serious about TV sound, (4) no quick and direct means to select a particular input without having to rotate one-way through all intervening inputs, but using the tuner and channel buttons can speed the process, and (5) lack of means to retain user picture adjustments for each input, but it appears that individual settings can be made in the service menu. [I successfully adjusted digital brightness and contrast (service menu items 134 and 155) without affecting other inputs.]

The final issue is that no pixel size (zoom) setting will fill the screen on some HDTV/DTV channels, depending on channel and program. This certainly is an issue of the program and not the TV.

I've read posts here concerning other flaws found by others that my set does not have. These include lip sync (video lag), green blobs or bars, and others I can not immediately recall.

Thus, if one needs a plug-and-play HDTV for the masses, this one out of the box is hard to beat. But if one can live with the design limitations and have calibration DVDs and a lot of patience, one can have one of the best HDTV that is yet available, and the most affordable 30-inch HDTV that I know of.

I hope this helps someone to decide whether they can live with this great TV. I also hope that anyone who knows how fix items I haven't been able to fix or how to workaround what I think are design limitations will let me know.

Originally posted by Teeh
Over the last two months, I read practically all posts in this thread as well as the old thread. Thanks to all those who contributed. I also downloaded the owners manual and the service manual and read the owners manual very, very carefully. All this great information helped me to decide to buy this wonderful TV, the 30" model, about two weeks ago.

As a payback for what I've gained from reading this thread, I'm writing this rather long summary as a means to help other picky TV shoppers decide whether they can live with this set.

I've spent several long evenings tweaking the gray scale and geometry settings in the service menu, then many hours viewing the results and re-tweaking. Items I corrected/improved included the original green cast in shadow areas and a little red push, and over-scan and pincushion adjustments.

For making these improvements, I used the service manual and other posts here as references. I used the test patterns on the AVIA and DVE DVDs as well as the THX section of the Star Wars VI DVD. Various gray bar patterns displayed from these DVDs were adjusted such that a panel of well trained eyes agreed that the gray patterns displayed minimal hints of greenness or brownness. Yes, the eyes can do it, but it takes lots upon lots of patience and practice. The first quick and easy way to improve this TV out of the box is to set the contrast no more than 1/3 across the scale.


I must say that I'm completely satisfied with this TV. It really has a great wow factor. The HDTV picture for some programs is absolutely stunning, and I am very picky. Because of their lower resolution, DVDs are no challenge, and regular cable is not bad, depending on the channel. Whenever the colors seem off, it always turns out to be the program and not the TVs fault. Sometimes switching among the normal, cool and warm color enhancer settings can improve program color variations.

I've found no means to correct a 1/8" clockwise tilt of the entire picture, but no one can notice it unless a test pattern is displayed and closely examined. The only other remaining issue is that computer output via DVI to HDMI is moderately over-scanned and I haven't been able to correct it with PC software, but this is also a non-issue because I don't yet have a real need for PC output. Watching DVDs from the PC is great, but average home DVD players do just as well, plus they all have remote controls.

Thus, the only remaining issues are the inherent design limitations of the TV, most of which I knew from reading the manual before purchase. These include (1) the lack of means to switch between digital cable and digital over the air channels without the lengthly process of having to switch antenna inputs and rescan the channels, (2) no scale for adjusting volume, but I use my ears, (3) weak speakers, but I use the digital output to an A/V receiver when I'm serious about TV sound, (4) no quick and direct means to select a particular input without having to rotate one-way through all intervening inputs, but using the tuner and channel buttons can speed the process, and (5) lack of means to retain user picture adjustments for each input, but it appears that individual settings can be made in the service menu. [I successfully adjusted digital brightness and contrast (service menu items 134 and 155) without affecting other inputs.]

The final issue is that no pixel size (zoom) setting will fill the screen on some HDTV/DTV channels, depending on channel and program. This certainly is an issue of the program and not the TV.

I've read posts here concerning other flaws found by others that my set does not have. These include lip sync (video lag), green blobs or bars, and others I can not immediately recall.

Thus, if one needs a plug-and-play HDTV for the masses, this one out of the box is hard to beat. But if one can live with the design limitations and have calibration DVDs and a lot of patience, one can have one of the best HDTV that is yet available, and the most affordable 30-inch HDTV that I know of.

I hope this helps someone to decide whether they can live with this great TV. I also hope that anyone who knows how fix items I haven't been able to fix or how to workaround what I think are design limitations will let me know.

Well done! I have 32" version and didn't feel confident to use the 30" service manual to tamper with the TV.

the tv is awesome but it suffers greatly from low quality component inputs, running hd from an antenna is beautiful and pretty good but some fuzziness from with the components

Originally posted by summ
the tv is awesome but it suffers greatly from low quality component inputs, running hd from an antenna is beautiful and pretty good but some fuzziness from with the components

You may want to borrow a better cable from a friend to confirm the problem. I hooked up my Progressive DVD player through component input and don't have any problem.

right now i only have the cables from my cable company but do you know any place to get good cheap cables? pm me if ya do ;)

also im notcing some magnet issues, the screen is a bit discolored in one corner. i removed all the electrical devices near it and still no luck. Its near a power outlet, could that be the reason? also i noticed that when i brougth my ps2 near the tv it discolored, i never had this issue with my other tv.

summ, I have noticed snowy or grainy pictures when I connect my Xbox to either of the component inputs. I get the grainy pictures when the Xbox is set with the 480p, 720p, and 1080i either on or off. However, I have only tried two different third-party high definition boxes. I haven't been able to find an official Microsoft High Definition pack yet, locally. In addition, my Xbox was manufactured in Nov. 2002, so I don't know if that is a factor.

However, I get a nice picture when I connect my progressive scan DVD player to either of the component inputs. Perhaps there is lesser quality with the component inputs in relation to HD.

Originally posted by Jdubyac300
...I notice the upper left side is about 1/8" lower than the upper right side. The lower left side is about 1/8" lower than the lower right side. I have tried the "Pin Phase" and "AFC Angle" in the service menu with no luck.

Is there a vertical tilt-like control to rotate the entire image? ...


There was a discussion in the old thread concerning tilting of the image on the Sanyo. I recall that no one had yet found a way to adjust tilt through the software, and that it could be adjusted by only rotating the yoke on the back of the tube, something the average user should not attempt.

There was also some agreement and disagreement that tilt was affected by the earth's magnetic field. Try turning the front of the TV in a different compass direction while the test pattern is displayed to see whether this is true.

TH

For me, the 1/8" tilt is definitely noticeable without a test pattern, just watching the news or anything else where horizontal lines span the screen.

I guess the perfectionist in me sees this every time I turn it on. Maybe one day I'll stop looking for it.

But I have also noticed that MANY other TV's I've seen recently--at work or friends' homes--have a similar or worse tilt, and maybe the owners don't care. I'm certainly not going to tell them because it may ruin their TV watching experience forever!

Following up on my post earlier in the week, I took care of most of the "squeezing on the sides of the picture" problem by widening the picture in the service menu so roughly 1/3-1/2" falls off either side--is cropped--when the picture takes up the entire screen (or I stretch it to do so). Of course I also changed the vertical height to keep things in proper proportion. So the problem appeared to be in the "general picture" itself, not in the set squeezing whatever hit the far edges.

But I am still very satisfied. Really. Watching Yellowcard on INHD was a blast. No horizontal lines to stare at. ;)

FWIW, I just turned around to see an HD compatible projection TV being given away on The Price Is Right, and the video they were feeding to the TV (another episode of TPIR) was stretched to what Sanyo owners call "full" mode. You really do get used to watching non-HD TV this way rather quickly.

I have previously posted on a yellowish tint problem and the fact that the screen seems to be divided into thirds with each third tinted a different color. (HT322744) I called Sanyo and they arranged for a service tech to come to my house. When he arrived, I had MSNBC on with the stock ticker scrolling across the bottom. He took one look at the blue, whit, and light yellow color of the ticker and said that I had a bad picture tube. I received a call today today from the service tech saying that Sanyo was shipping a new tube and that he would return to install it in about a week. What great service, I have nothing but good things to say about Sanyo's customer service dept......they were very courteous and helpful.

Can the 30" hook up to HTPC, and at which resolution, does it require powerstrip, and how about overscan?

Thanks

Sometimes, ignorance is bliss when it comes to stuff like tv's. We had a sony for years that I watched all the time, and I thought it was great with no big problems. When I started shopping for a new tv, I started to look at stuff like geometry and the like, but was amazed at how many tv's had problems. I thought, "can't they be like my parents sony and not have any problems?" Well, since I was looking for problems, I found that our sony wasn't as perfect as I had thought, I just never looked for problems and I thought the tv was great. But now that I know that they are there, its anoying. I think thats how most people are, they don't notice, and as a result don't care. In a way, I wish I didn't notice the flaws in my tv. Oh well, such is the dilemma of knowing much about technology.

Originally posted by Jdubyac300
summ, I have noticed snowy or grainy pictures when I connect my Xbox to either of the component inputs. I get the grainy pictures when the Xbox is set with the 480p, 720p, and 1080i either on or off. However, I have only tried two different third-party high definition boxes. I haven't been able to find an official Microsoft High Definition pack yet, locally. In addition, my Xbox was manufactured in Nov. 2002, so I don't know if that is a factor.

However, I get a nice picture when I connect my progressive scan DVD player to either of the component inputs. Perhaps there is lesser quality with the component inputs in relation to HD.
thanks for the input, i actually tried my friends xbox and it looked a lot better than my xbox. Even when it was in 480i it was clear where as in my xbox its fuzzy and has green lines. So the xbox issue is over for me, im just having some magnet issues with my outlets and stuff.

im seriously almost fed up with this tv, i think i might return it. Im having some magnetic issues. The edge of the screen, the left side if you are watching it, is purple. I took EVERYTHING out of my cabinate and still the purple area is still there. I have a power outlet about 10-12 inches away from the tv but i never had a problem before. The tv gets rid of the purple mark when i push the tv out a bit so i have no idea whats causing it ecept for maybe the power outlet but like i said i never had an issue before, if ya have an answer let me know.

I wish I could be of some help with the magnetic issues. The back of my TV is about 12 inches above the wall outlet and I don't notice any picture discoloration. Perhaps the Sanyo TV is more suspectible to magnetic fields than your previous TVs.

yea i would assume, its lame. I either have to move my entire room around or look for a tv that isnt so sensitive

Originally posted by cdcooker
Can the 30" hook up to HTPC, and at which resolution, does it require powerstrip, and how about overscan?

Thanks
Yes, I have mine connected to a PC via a DVI to HDMI cable and resolution set at 1280x720 via Powerstrip.

Yes, over scan is present, not too bad, but I haven't found any way to reduce it through PC hardwire/software. One can size a window to fit though.

I noticed red bold words on the label: "Exclusive one year return or exchange"....(In toronto Walmart) ... does this mean if I am not satisfied within one year, I can get my money back?

can anyone tell me what could cause the magnet like reaction witht he purple color on teh screen in the corner? there is a power outlet near the tv but thats it, its just a wall and a window near it with a outlet aobut 10 inches away. Theres about a thumbprint size purple spot but when i move the tv it goes away.

Mine is about a couple of inches from the outlet and it doesn't have the magnetic problem. I'm thinking it's your tv that's messed up. I'm returning mine in a couple of weeks because I have a couple of problems.

Here they are:
1) Can't get the right picture quality. It's either the skin tone is too tan or if I want the skin tone to be "normal" it lacks too much color (progressive scan dvd player). On S-video, picture is great.

2) "Snow" when I watch on S and component videos

Going to return it and probably wait til next year when all of the HD's will have an hdtuner. That way I can get a panny 32" for about $800 - $900. From what I read, it seems like the major problem is the component video. Unacceptable in my standards especially when I watch plenty of dvd's and play X Box often.

yea thats pretty much dead on, i want to get a better tv but i dont think imm gonna be able to find one at this price.

Well, thanks to this thread I went out and bought the HT32744 model. It was pretty difficult finding it (only 1 out of the many WalMarts in Phoenix had it in stock), but I managed to get it home.

When I turn it on, it just automatically turns itself off. I've checked my connections, tried different power outlets, tried using a surge protector or not using a surge protector. No matter what I do the TV shuts off automatically in about a second. Has anyone else seen this?

I'm unable to call Sanyo until Monday (since they are closed), and really don't want to lug this thing down the stairs and back across town to WalMart to swap it out. I'd appreciate any insight you guys might have.

unplug it for a while, recheck connections, and maybe check your antenna or something other than that i dunno. With my magnet issue i think ikts sommething in my room because i placed a shielded speaker ovver my problem area and it went a way, so somethin gis causing it but right now im just shieldin g it with a speaker i have.

ECEC:

I give you a wild guess. May be you have a dying battery with your remote. Keep the remote covered/away then test the TV again.

ECEC:
Doesn't sound like you have much of a choice.
Return to Wally for exchange/credit
or call Samsung for repair.
Sorry 'bout that!

Originally posted by ECEC

When I turn it on, it just automatically turns itself off. I've checked my connections, tried different power outlets, tried using a surge protector or not using a surge protector. No matter what I do the TV shuts off automatically in about a second. Has anyone else seen this?


The first one I got did exactly the same thing. It has nothing to do with the remote or any connections.

The reason: the tv is broken. Take it back.

The second one I got worked.

Well, I returned it and got a new one. Came on at the first try. I have it hooked up to an el-cheapo antenna and caught around 10 channels off the bat. Man this is so cool.

I've got my PC hooked up to it via S-Video, but the DVI > HDMI adapter I bought should be in next week. I'll post any results I get here.

Thanks for the quick replies!

argh im pretty upset still about my tv, its purple in the top left corner, i think im gonna return it. I dont know if its my fault or just the tv but when i used a shielded speaker to move around i noticed the spot went away when the tv was moved or i moved the shielded speark directly on top of the tv. Nothing is on top of the tv and i have no idea whats causing this.

Summ:
I'm confused..... The spot moves or goes away when you either move the TV or move the speaker on top of it? If the is true - the TV is fine. The location is a problem. Can you place the TV on another wall or in another room? Does the spot move? What is near the wall in the room opposite the TV?

I found out something interesting about either my HT30744 or my house. The picture on the right side bends up about 1/8" as compared to the left and center. The front of the TV is facing east. When I rotate the TV at least 45 degrees so that it is facing south-east, both the left and right side are equal but the center of the picture dips down 1/16".

Originally posted by Jdubyac300
I found out something interesting about either my HT30744 or my house. The picture on the right side bends up about 1/8" as compared to the left and center. The front of the TV is facing east. When I rotate the TV at least 45 degrees so that it is facing south-east, both the left and right side are equal but the center of the picture dips down 1/16".

If you ever get lost in the jungle, and happen to have your Sanyo with you...it could save your life!...:p

So do all CRT tvs do this to a lesser extent or is the shielding on the Sanyo TVs weak, etc? Perhaps you need one of these computer monitor shields...:)

http://www.magnetic-shield.com/products/ig2.html
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Originally posted by Jdubyac300
I found out something interesting about either my HT30744 or my house. The picture on the right side bends up about 1/8" as compared to the left and center. The front of the TV is facing east. When I rotate the TV at least 45 degrees so that it is facing south-east, both the left and right side are equal but the center of the picture dips down 1/16".

That is the effect of the Earth's magnetic field bending the path of the electrons as they shoot from the gun and hit the phosphor mask. Another symptom of the Earth's magnetic field is that it bends the path of the electrons, and electrons meant to hit a green phosphor end up hitting a red or blue phosphor. This will show up as weird discolorations in the picture that a degauss will usually take care of.

Is this a Sanyo problem or Cable HD problem?

I have a new HT32744 and I am a newbie to this technology so pardon any gaffs. I don's know if this is a Cox Cable HD or a problem with the Sanyo. The signal is coming from the new HD cable box and entering via the Component 2 connectors.

Specifically, the HD signal is running over the screen display area. By that I mean if there is any text at the top or bottom of image, it is usually partially cutoff. It seems if the image is being zoomed in. This happens when the picture is set to regular "letterbox". Also, this only happens with the HD signals. My regular stations do not have this problem.

Can anyone provide some direction on how this can be fixed? (I can't see the football scores scrolling on the bottom of the screen!!!)

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.

Try playing with the "pix shape" button.

Originally posted by Teeh
Yes, I have mine connected to a PC via a DVI to HDMI cable and resolution set at 1280x720 via Powerstrip.

Yes, over scan is present, not too bad, but I haven't found any way to reduce it through PC hardwire/software. One can size a window to fit though.

I can get 1280x720 using DVI-to-HDMI without the need for Powerstrip. I get some overscan as well.

jawgee

i think im going to sadly return this tv, the weak component inputs, bad xbox support and just personal issues im having with this tv arent too much for me. Anyone got any suggestions for a 30" for aroun $800?

I have already boxed mine up to return sometime early this week. I am returning mine for the exact same reasons. I wish it had performed better, in my case.

I don't think you are going to find many options for 30" for around $800.

Matrixok10: tried that too, didn't make much difference. Cycling through letterbox, zoom and normal modes all showed some slight change, but in all instances the image is still cutoff in the display.

Thanks for the help.

Originally posted by jawgee
I can get 1280x720 using DVI-to-HDMI without the need for Powerstrip. I get some overscan as well.

jawgee

Hey, that's great. My ATI Radeon 9000 wouldn't sync at all with the Sanyo without Powerstrip under Win98SE. Under WinXP on this dual boot PC, without Powerstrip I could only get a not very useful 16 color 820x480 display. Are you also using an ATI video card?

Originally posted by MoonEyed
Is this a Sanyo problem or Cable HD problem?

I have a new HT32744 and I am a newbie to this technology so pardon any gaffs. I don's know if this is a Cox Cable HD or a problem with the Sanyo. The signal is coming from the new HD cable box and entering via the Component 2 connectors.

Specifically, the HD signal is running over the screen display area. By that I mean if there is any text at the top or bottom of image, it is usually partially cutoff. It seems if the image is being zoomed in. This happens when the picture is set to regular "letterbox". Also, this only happens with the HD signals. My regular stations do not have this problem.

Can anyone provide some direction on how this can be fixed? (I can't see the football scores scrolling on the bottom of the screen!!!)

Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide.

Sounds like you're either your set top box is zooming on the picture or your set has an insane amount of overscan. You can adjust the overscan via the service menu.

All other features asside, how does the picture quality of the Sanyo HT30744 compare with the Sony KV-30HS420? Does it vary for HD picture, standard cable, and DVD? Is there a big difference or is it hardly noticeable. I'm wondering the justification for the price difference between the two models.

Originally posted by summ
can anyone tell me what could cause the magnet like reaction witht he purple color on teh screen in the corner? there is a power outlet near the tv but thats it, its just a wall and a window near it with a outlet aobut 10 inches away. Theres about a thumbprint size purple spot but when i move the tv it goes away.

just to test this i moved my unshielded EV computer speaker next to the tv and no color problems. id call sanyo have them send a tech out and look at it or return it either that or move it to another outlet.

Originally posted by Teeh
Hey, that's great. My ATI Radeon 9000 wouldn't sync at all with the Sanyo without Powerstrip under Win98SE. Under WinXP on this dual boot PC, without Powerstrip I could only get a not very useful 16 color 820x480 display. Are you also using an ATI video card?

I'm using an NVIDIA FX5200. Can't seem to get any other resolution besides 1280x720p to work, though. Actually, when I set my HTPC's resolution to 800x600, my HDTV tells me that it's still set at 1280x720p.:confused:

jawgee

I bought a HT30744 on 10/18/2004. It would not turn on. After pushing the power button, you hear a click/pop, like it wants to turn on, and then a second click to shut it off. This will repeat three times, and then nothing will happen. Unplugging the set seems to reset it, and I can go through this cycle again. I am simply going to stretch my budget and buy a Sony 34" XBR.

Originally posted by jawgee
I'm using an NVIDIA FX5200. Can't seem to get any other resolution besides 1280x720p to work, though. Actually, when I set my HTPC's resolution to 800x600, my HDTV tells me that it's still set at 1280x720p.:confused:

jawgee

TV's are not like computer monitors in that they are not multisync. You have to trick them to get them to display the resolutions that you want. My tv will only show 480p or 1080i, whether or not I am actually sending them resolutions like 800x600 or 640x480. It will also show either of those when I use 540p or 960i. So you really can't go by what your tv tells you.

Originally posted by bodromarsh
I bought a HT30744 on 10/18/2004. It would not turn on. After pushing the power button, you hear a click/pop, like it wants to turn on, and then a second click to shut it off. This will repeat three times, and then nothing will happen. Unplugging the set seems to reset it, and I can go through this cycle again. I am simply going to stretch my budget and buy a Sony 34" XBR.

you got a bad set. A couple of others have noted the same problem out of the box. Take it back and get a new one. xbr is double the cost of the sanyo?

Originally posted by oryan_dunn
TV's are not like computer monitors in that they are not multisync. You have to trick them to get them to display the resolutions that you want. My tv will only show 480p or 1080i, whether or not I am actually sending them resolutions like 800x600 or 640x480. It will also show either of those when I use 540p or 960i. So you really can't go by what your tv tells you.

How do I truly know what resolution I'm viewing & whether or not it's interlaced?

Thanks,
jawgee

I've seen, in this thread, that a lot of you have gone into the service menu on the 32" model. Perhaps one of you can help me. I have a copy of the service manual for the 30" and it seems to have a lot of the same functions as the 32". The question I have is whether someone can tell me what settings affect the component inputs and what affect the DVI inputs for the 32". Perhaps it's my stupidity but the service manual function descriptions seem a little cryptic and I don't want to mess something up. I've seen that PacParts has a service manual for the 32" but I'm afraid it's going to be just as cryptic.

Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

I recently picked up the 32" set and am happy with it overall. I do notice the audio sync problem at times, using just the Sanyo's speakers. But the tilting issue is not happening to me.

I have a couple questions for you experienced owners. Last night, I used my Unity Motion satellite receiver to pick up a FOX baseball feed. The video was a little choppy when there was much motion on the field or with the camera. Could that in any way be a result of the fact that FOX is using 720p? Could it be related to the fact that my UM receiver, like the Sanyo, also upconverts to 1080i? Do you think it's possible that some combination of the above factors played into it? I haven't been able to check out a FOX NFL game yet to see if the same thing happens. WB HD did the same thing last night. But CBS and others have looked good.

Second question: Has anyone else experienced what looks like some electrical interference? I never had that problem with my SD set, and all my connections are tight. It seems to come and go, and it might possibly be coming from the fridge or the freezer. Any thoughts? Thanks.

Kevin

Any tips for getting an analog signal to look better on this set? I presently have standard cable and it looks like crap (HD OTA is awesome though).

I think I'm looking at 2 problems.

1) Apparently analog standard definition looks lousy on HD tv's. If I upgrade to digital cable will that help? I've heard that most of the channels on digital cable are analog anyway, so I'm guessing that won't help?

2) I think I have some wiring problems, cause sometimes some channels look crappy on my SD tv's also. The cable is presently split 4 ways. I'm going to buy a monster 2 gig 3 way splitter to replace the crappy old splitter and hopefully that will help. There also my be old or substandard cabling in the house. How do I check this? Is there any way to tell with a digital mulit-meter, or is specialized equipment required?

The spliter should help some. I upgraded my cableing to RG6 instead of RG59. I didn't see any difference from the new parts.

You may want to unplug everything from the current splitter execpt the new tv and see if that helps to narrow down the problem.

I think SD looks awsome on the 32" (compaired to my 10yr old 25").
-Ryan

Complain to the cable company that your PQ is poor and they can send someone out to check the cables and connections. SPlitting the cable will result in a weaker signal. Are you running the cable directly into the set or through a STB or Tivo?

Originally posted by upNdown
Any tips for getting an analog signal to look better on this set? I presently have standard cable and it looks like crap (HD OTA is awesome though).

I think I'm looking at 2 problems.

1) Apparently analog standard definition looks lousy on HD tv's. If I upgrade to digital cable will that help? I've heard that most of the channels on digital cable are analog anyway, so I'm guessing that won't help?

2) I think I have some wiring problems, cause sometimes some channels look crappy on my SD tv's also. The cable is presently split 4 ways. I'm going to buy a monster 2 gig 3 way splitter to replace the crappy old splitter and hopefully that will help. There also my be old or substandard cabling in the house. How do I check this? Is there any way to tell with a digital mulit-meter, or is specialized equipment required?

Originally posted by TH3_FRB
Complain to the cable company that your PQ is poor and they can send someone out to check the cables and connections. SPlitting the cable will result in a weaker signal. Are you running the cable directly into the set or through a STB or Tivo?

The cable is already split 4 ways with what may be a cheap splitter. My plan is to reduce that to a 3 way split with a good splitter.

I will have somebody from the Cable company come out to check everything eventually, but I haven't decided whether or not I should upgrade to digital cable, and I'd rather just have a guy come out once if possible. Would upgrading to digital help, or do the majority of the channels remain the same?

Right now the cable is running from the street to a 4 way splitter in the basement, then up to a wall jack on the 1st floor. From the wall it goes into a Tivo, then into the TV via component connnections (the 3 red white yellow ones - those are component connectors, right?) However, before I hooked up the Tivo I ran the coax dircetly from the wall jack to the TV and the picture seemed the same - equally crappy with out without the Tivo.

As I said, some channels are worse than others, (especially ch 4, the local CBS affiliate), but that is true for the SD tv's in my house as well.

I would call the cable company & have them test it with a Signal Strength Meter. If the signal is low make them install a Signal Amplifier.

"1) Apparently analog standard definition looks lousy on HD tv's. If I upgrade to digital cable will that help? I've heard that most of the channels on digital cable are analog anyway, so I'm guessing that won't help? "


It seems to vary. A Dish Network tech told me that when I get my HD receiver, even the SD Dish channels will look better; on my current receiver, they don't look great. Maybe that's due in part to the fact that S video is the best I can do on my present receiver, whereas I can use component or DVI-to-HDMI once I get the HD receiver.

I do have to say that my SD analog OTA stations look fine.

Kevin

In most cases that I know of for cable, channels 2-99 are all analog. Channels above 100 are typically digital. So your local channels usually fall within analog group, and digital cable would not help you with the analog channels.

Digital cable, SD style, can be heavily compressed on some channels, and less compressed on others. On the heavily compressed channels, blury pictures and pixelation and other MPEG-2 artifacts make these pictures worse than a good quality analog TV signal and picture. The less compressed channels reduce those artifacts to where they are not very visible, except on very large screen TVs.

If your cable company offers HDTV, that is where you will get the highest quality pictures, even when they are upconverting SD programs and broadcasting them on their digital channel.

As I understand it, the cable companies are mandated to provide local DTV and HDTV channels that are generally available OTA (over the air via antenna) in your general viewing area atg no additional charge of the basic cable rate. So you could have just basic cable (at $13 per month where I live) and then use the QAM tuner in your Sanyo TV to tune in the local DTV/HDTV channels from the cable. If you want premium HDTV channels from the cable company, then you have to subscribe to their digital packages to include those HDTV channels that you are interested in. So HBO-HD comes with the standard HBO package, Showtime likewise. For Discovery-HD and others, you would need to subscribe to some package that includes their related SD channels. In most of these cases, you will also pay rent for the cable company-provided STB that supports their encrypted premium HDTV channels. You would connect this to the DTV/HDMI or component inputs of your HDTV.

I have DirecTV satellite combined with OTA DTV/HDTV (using my antenna) and basic cable (to get my cable modem internet discount). I am fortunate to live in an area where I can receive all of the major DTV/HDTV stations with a single antenna without need for a rotator. So, I don't need the cable source for HDTV (and I don't yet own a QAM-capable HD tuner).

I would encourage you to go for at least the "free" local DTV/HDTV channels that you can tune in with your QAM tuner in your Sanyo HDTV. Then again, if your local cable company is not providing DTV/HDTV local channels yet, all bets are off.

I hope this info helps. Sorry for the long post.

Good luck, and let us know how you fare.

I just bought the Sanyo HT30744 last night. I've turned down the contrast to 1/3 as suggested in this thread. The set looks great, except...

I have snow on all the inputs. I've tried the composite, s-video, and component (progressive and interlaced) inputs but I get the same noise. They all have noise when using the actual input. The "No Signal" screen is crystal clear, though.

Basically, I get two horizontal bands of noise that slowly roll upwards on all inputs. The top band is about 2 inches tall, the bottom band is about 1.5 inches tall, and they're separated by about 2 inches.
-------------------------------
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|#############################|
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|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^|
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# = top band of snow noise, ~2" thick
^ = bottom band of snow noise, ~1.5" thick

Both bands slowly roll upward.
Taking a close look at the DVD player title screen, the image as a whole just doesn't look smooth and still, as a progressive source should be. (INFO reveals 720*480(60P).) Also, there are very faint slanted bands (/) that seem to roll to the right quickly and some even fainter horizontal bands (-) that roll down just as quickly.

Digital OTA is crystal clear, though.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated. I'd hate to have to return this.

sounds like a power source problem. try a different outlet. then take the tv back and get another one.

Ground loop.

Maybe try a line conditioner. Do you live in an older building where the electrical might be in need of upgrade?

Originally posted by Ratman
Ground loop.

Thanks for the input.

I don't think the power is bad. I had a Samsung TX-P3064W a few days ago and picture quality (PQ) was fine on all inputs.

On this Sanyo, it doesn't matter whether I have video plugged in or not. If I switch to Analog 1 (composite) with nothing plugged in, for example, there will be brief period of about a second while the TV tries to lock onto a signal before displaying the "No Signal" screen. While it is looking for a signal, I see a black screen with the same snow noise. When it switches to the "No Signal" screen, there is a noticeable difference in the image quality. The black becomes blacker and there is absolutely no noise.

If there's a power problem and/or ground loop problem, shouldn't it affect the digital over-the-air (OTA) display as well?

Tonight, I will try plugging into the wall directly to see if it's the surge protector that's causing the problem.

Thanks for your continued input.

I had the same problem with mine. I tried turning on the DVD player when I watched regular tv and I didn't see the "snow". I could only see the "snow" wherever I hooked up my input from the dvd player (video1, video 2, component 2). I returned mine for a refund. How's the video quality with your component ? Mine didn't look right. It looked like everybody had a sunburn. Good luck with your tv.

Originally posted by calpchen
I just bought the Sanyo HT30744 last night. I've turned down the contrast to 1/3 as suggested in this thread. The set looks great, except...

I have snow on all the inputs. I've tried the composite, s-video, and component (progressive and interlaced) inputs but I get the same noise. They all have noise when using the actual input. The "No Signal" screen is crystal clear, though.

Basically, I get two horizontal bands of noise that slowly roll upwards on all inputs. The top band is about 2 inches tall, the bottom band is about 1.5 inches tall, and they're separated by about 2 inches.
......



I recently purchased this TV also and have run into the same exact problem as you. It only seems to occur while watching DVDs (or playing games) on the component inputs (either set of them)...I haven't tried hooking up a DVD player with an S-video or a composite cable to verify this though. My picture from the digital tuner (digital and HD) are also completely free from this noise. I have tried a couple DVD players and different sets of component cables to replicate the snow (only seems to be red and blue speckles, no green).

I think this was mentioned earlier in this thread too.

Later on I'll take a picture of the screen while displaying this noise so we can work on some problem solving :)

Other than this noise problem I've experienced I absolutely love this tv. True, in some programming people look a little tanner than they may in real life, but while watching a show like Leno in HD everything looks perfect.
In regards to the speakers; turning off the simulated surround on the tv's speakers seemed to greatly help with being able to hear announcers in sports-casts.

I can echo the above regarding the surround sound. When watching football last weekend, the crowd drowned out the announcers too much until I turned off the surround. (I have the 32".)

About this electric interference thing: Mine comes and goes at times. I'm kind of suspecting that it's maybe coming from the fridge or freezer. Has anyone asked Sanyo about this?

Kevin

I usually would be inclined to roll up my sleeves and jump into this problem enthusiastically, but I had a Samsung TXP3064W at the same spot and there was no trouble. Are the hours spent on trying to fix this annoying problem worth the money that I saved?

Something tells me that even with the best tweaks, this problem is not going to go away completely and to my satisfaction. I would only be satisfied if the picture quality from my DVD were as good as the one from the digital OTA broadcast.

As long as I'm whining ;) I would love to be able to disable the input sources that I don't use so that I won't have to cycle through all the possible sources when switching from one input to another.

This Sanyo is my second HDTV in a few days. I just want this whole thing to be over. It's so heavy to move! Hehe.

For those of you who are having snow/interference problems on your analog inputs:

I've been having the exact same problem as well, and I've made posts on here and on HTForum asking for suggestions. You guys who are running into a similar situation might find them to be an interesting read, a couple knowledgeable folks dropped in with advice and suggestions in both threads:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=448084
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=211565

Granted the snow/interference that you guys are getting might be of a completely different kind and be an entirely different problem, but compare your setup to mine (throughly outlined in the above threads) before you spend a ton of time/money/hairpulling.

The conclusion that I came to is that the Sayno is just poorly shielded, and I'm in an area with heavy RF interference so it is something I'll have to live with. I'm running a Denon 1910 over DVI for DVDs now and it looks great. My video games and stuff are still on component, but I can live with the interference on those (much less noticable).

Good luck, and if you get your snow woes resolved, please let me know so that I can try out whatever you did.

well im taking my tv back tommorow, its pretty nice but too many issues. Im gonna go look at a samsung tommorow and see what i like. I dont need anything to amazing but i need something that doesnt have as many issues as this tv.

I have the Sanyo HT32744, and I am using in conjunction with a HP Media Center PC ( XP Media Center Edition 2004). I have purchased a single link DVI-I to HDMI cable, with the intent of interfacing to the HDTV. The Media Center PC has the Nividia Gforce FX 5200, with analog VGA, S-Video, and DVI outputs. THe drivers for the video card are 66.71 (current for XP-Media Center edition) though there are higher revision levels for XP Pro. I have tried everything I can think of, but I am unable to get a signal on the HDTV HDMI input. I can sucessfully use S-Video and Analolg VGA display for Dualview mode, but I have been un-successful in doing anything with the HDTV with the DVI to HDMI interface. What am I missing here? Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Originally posted by calpchen

I have snow on all the inputs. I've tried the composite, s-video, and component (progressive and interlaced) inputs but I get the same noise. They all have noise when using the actual input. The "No Signal" screen is crystal clear, though.




just got my replacement for my other Sanyo that i had to return because of some issues and i'm getting the white jumping bands too :(

this is the same setup as my last Sanyo and it did not have it...guess i have to replace this one too :(

Anyone know what Wal-Mart is doing with all the returned Sanyo's? Are they discounting them, returning them or just using them as a display model?

Originally posted by ytrebil
I have the Sanyo HT32744, and I am using in conjunction with a HP Media Center PC ( XP Media Center Edition 2004). I have purchased a single link DVI-I to HDMI cable, ...

I have tried everything I can think of, but I am unable to get a signal on the HDTV HDMI input. I can sucessfully use S-Video and Analolg VGA display for Dualview mode, but I have been un-successful in doing anything with the HDTV with the DVI to HDMI interface. What am I missing here? Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

You need Powerstrip, a utility for setting your video card for custom resolutions. Download it here (http://www.entechtaiwan.net/util/ps.shtm).

With the 30" model, a resolution of 1280x720 works well. Find a 4:3 resolution that works. Too, you may have to set custom timings.
TH

Originally posted by summ
unplug it for a while, recheck connections, and maybe check your antenna or something other than that i dunno. With my magnet issue i think ikts sommething in my room because i placed a shielded speaker ovver my problem area and it went a way, so somethin gis causing it but right now im just shieldin g it with a speaker i have.

Is your tv near the one of the transformer (heater, etc)? I know my gas heater has the 24V transformer and sure make a lot of noise.