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Shufflefield 01-12-05, 01:45 PM I own no 720p games. I went through all of them last night. All of them are either not capable or 480p, even Halo2 which was a suprise.
As for it being upconverted, I really can't tell if that is true or not. There is a difference in going from 480i to 480p, and if you hit info on the remote you can see that the TV changes what it says it is displaying. I will say that the 480p looks very good though. Several OTA channels broadcast 720p and that looks pretty amazing, I don't know how that will translate though.
When you get your Component cable, don't do what I did. I got the regular one with the composite sound on it. There are cables that have the digital out on them. The xbox doesn't have a seperate out, it is all done from the AV pack, so if you plan to use a digital audio signal, be sure you get the right AV pack. I am gonna schlep along with the composites for a bit until i can get all my stuff that supports the digital up and running.
jsigone 01-12-05, 03:55 PM I am building my theatre up so I have no suround sound, dolby stuff yet.
I'll be using the TV and I have a set of Logitech 5.1 530x PC speakers that I have plauged into the headphone jack of my current TV. Ghetto but works ok....alot better then the TV speakers when it comes to playing games or DVDs.
After the TV was purchased I was planning on get a DVD reciever set (next month), nothing specail other then 5.1 dolby Pro II is gonna be a must. Everything will have to revolve around the Xbox. So will the componet cables that support digital sound also work ok on the TV set and allow me to upgrade later or am I assed out having to buy the basic set first then the better set later? Are both version the same price?
BTW: Halo 2 is 480p widescreen
I think most if not all the newer games out are at least 480p, I know a few are 720p like tonyhawk underground 2.
Shufflefield 01-12-05, 04:39 PM So will the componet cables that support digital sound also work ok on the TV set and allow me to upgrade later or am I assed out having to buy the basic set first then the better set later?
your, ahem, assed out. Unless you can find a cable with both kinds of sound outputs, but I haven't seen one. The Hi Def pack was 20 bucks and the one with the digital sound was about 45 at best buy. I hear there is a high def pack made by MS that has a breakout box that allows you to connect anything (Digital or composite sound, Component or S-Vid). But I have never seen one in real life.
I think we got a bit off topic... We might need to take it to the game forum. =)
jsigone 01-12-05, 05:02 PM I just looked on Xbox's web page found that the new HDTV AV cable box allows both composites and digital from it with a MSRP of $19.99.
I tried to add the links bout I gus I don't have enough post since I'm a newb.
jsigone 01-12-05, 05:04 PM here is the links
http://www.xbox.com/en-us/hardware/highdefinitionavpack.htm
http://www.xbox.com/assets/en-us/HardwareManuals/High_Definition_AV_Pack.pdf
I can't wait to get this TV home and hooked up. I have a nice 3day weekend too:D
DaveBuck 01-12-05, 06:48 PM Looking for the Schmatic Service Manual for the 32"
I did find the poor quality .pdf of the 30"
but need the HT32744 service manual.
Looking for any help! Many Thanks!
Pupjoint 01-13-05, 10:58 PM I seen this HDTV at wal-mart and was impressed, of course I guess they have a HDTV feed to it. I'm not a big TV junkie so I don't have any hd feeds but this is what i have and my question.
I have a 3 year old RCA DVD player with 5.1 Dolby and stereo system with the same. a 10 year old zenith 27" that is sometimes a little red on some things i watch. charter digital cable system , and a old standby VCR. and all is connected buy RCA cables
the question is. is it worth sinking $650 in to a new TV and another $200 for a entertainment center to watch my digital cable, old DVD player on?
once i get it all hooked up , will it look like my old zenith, since i don't have HDTV?
the old zenith works fine but I really would like a bigger TV with as crisp as the 30" i seen (i would go for the 32" though).
DaveBuck 01-14-05, 02:44 AM Sanyo emailed me the .pdf for the 32"
But they did not include the "Digital Module" schematic.
They just left it as a box labeled ATSC decoder, interlace/progress scan scaler with PIP and PAP.
If they OEM'ed this subassembly then this may be the reason.
I don't want open the case just yet to read the chip names.
I wonder if they are using the ATI chip sets?
Anybody got any facts the black box?
Shufflefield 01-14-05, 02:52 AM Originally posted by Pupjoint
I seen this HDTV at wal-mart and was impressed, of course I guess they have a HDTV feed to it. I'm not a big TV junkie so I don't have any hd feeds but this is what i have and my question.
I have a 3 year old RCA DVD player with 5.1 Dolby and stereo system with the same. a 10 year old zenith 27" that is sometimes a little red on some things i watch. charter digital cable system , and a old standby VCR. and all is connected buy RCA cables
the question is. is it worth sinking $650 in to a new TV and another $200 for a entertainment center to watch my digital cable, old DVD player on?
once i get it all hooked up , will it look like my old zenith, since i don't have HDTV?
the old zenith works fine but I really would like a bigger TV with as crisp as the 30" i seen (i would go for the 32" though).
how old is the DVD player? If it has component outs then yes, with now upgrades other than the TV and a component cable it will look very good. My DVD has component out but no progressive scan and I can still see a difference. Also, if you can, be sure your using and digital in/out's available, or if your not and have them, start using them. Look for Toslink cables on Ebay, av-america is a real good seller.
If you buy this TV, you can kind of get away with out upgrading your cable service. depending on your area (search this thread for links) you can just plug up bunny ears or an amplified antenne to get HDTV. I have an RCA amped one, but am springing for the cable box anyway, just for convienence.
If you buy the TV though, and don't upgrade cables, service, antennae or anything else, it will probably be the same. But for the price of a cheap antenae alone, you will be living high on the hog. If you got a game system, even without upgrading your cables (which you should) you will be happy with the larger image.
I have posted to this thread alot since getting this TV, and I don't know much about A/V, but I have learned a ton from this thread. And for the price I am very happy to have moved into HDTV finally. I had a few gripes at first, but reading this thread solved 99% percent of them through knowledge and I am very happy with my new TV. Go for the 32, if you can tolerate bars at the top and the bottom, because the 32 widescreen image is only a few square inches less than the 30 inch model, and the full screen images are, well, full screen. The 30 inch WS is only about a 24-25 inch TV when watching regular stuff. Check it at the store to see.
Shufflefield 01-14-05, 02:54 AM Originally posted by DaveBuck
Sanyo emailed me the .pdf for the 32"
But they did not include the "Digital Module" schematic.
They just left it as a box labeled ATSC decoder, interlace/progress scan scaler with PIP and PAP.
If they OEM'ed this subassembly then this may be the reason.
I don't want open the case just yet to read the chip names.
I wonder if they are using the ATI chip sets?
Anybody got any facts the black box?
I am not sure what that is... I had a bunch of diagrams at the end of my PDF, but I would assume it is the same. If you want to compare I can email you what I got. just give me a pm with your addy.
Pupjoint 01-14-05, 08:42 AM Shufflefield,
thanks for your reply. I don't think I'll get this right yet.
looking on my cable box it only has s video and RCA plugs.
charter only has 4 hd channels in my area.
I live in area with one hd over the air broadcast (I'm in WV)
dvd player not progressive scan.
I'm afraid that it would be a waste of money for me at this time. we at least the wife will be happy i didn't just go out and buy it like i all ways do. LOL
oryan_dunn 01-14-05, 01:29 PM Originally posted by Shufflefield
If you buy this TV, you can kind of get away with out upgrading your cable service. depending on your area (search this thread for links) you can just plug up bunny ears or an amplified antenne to get HDTV. I have an RCA amped one, but am springing for the cable box anyway, just for convienence.
Pupjoint,
Many times a cable compay will pass along the network feeds for your area in clearQAM which this tv can decode. If they pass along the one that you have, you could get it for free from your cable company without haveing to put up an antenna.
Also, you should see an improvment over your old zenith even if nothing else changes. As CRT's get older, they can loose focus, color saturation, etc. My Dad's Sony 32" is 9 years old and I can tell it is nowhere near as bright and crisp as it once was. Even if your DVD player has only an S-Video connection, you could see a big difference in picuture quality. On widescreen material, either tv will present you with a much bigger picture than you currently have. When I first got my Philips widescreen, the only dvd player i had was a ps2 and i only had analog cable. After i had the tv, i was able to do smaller upgrades as time went on with a progressive scan dvd player, and eventually an hd tuner(which is built-in to the sanyo). I've been very happy i bought it, even though now it is 300 bucks cheaper than when i got it a year and a half ago (dang its been that long?).
Anyways, thought I would offer up my opinion on the matter.
Ryan
Pupjoint 01-14-05, 06:06 PM thanks ryan,
I'm still throwing around the ideal. I'm really close to going and buying the darn thing and test it out. if i dont like it I'll get my money back. my zenith is doing what you describe. colors are fadeing, colors bleed at times and I have my briteness jacked up. i was watching a movie on my computer screen and was wishing it was more like that. would the unit be more like the computer screen? im just useing a all in wonder 9600 on the computer
Hey everyone.
I posted my initial impression with the 32" beast somewhere earlier in this thread. I'm still enjoying this TV greatly but have been bothered by one very irritating problem that I haven't seen anyone else explicitly mention.
The reason I'm posting again, is because I've noticed many of you are Xbox players. Although my main console is a PS2, I was wondering if you guys/gals could help me out with a problem I'm having regarding gaming and this TV.
While playing the game "Amplitude" (a timing/rhythm based music game) I could not, for the life of me, hit any of the notes on the beat. I at first thought there was something wrong with either my PS2 controller or my PS2 itself....something causing it to lag, or delay either my controller inputs or the image on the screen.
I then decided to play some Madden. Again, when it came time to do something where timing is very important (kicking a field goal) I could not kick the ball straight or near full force unless I deliberately compensated and hit the button early. I'm not positive, but I would estimate this delay to be somewhere around 100-200 milliseconds....clearly not a HUGE amount, but enough to throw off intricate timings.
I eliminated my PS2 and controllers for being at fault by using them on a couple separate TV's and they worked A-OK.
Now, my question to those with other consoles, or anyone that may have an idea, is: has anyone else encountered this issue? and. any suggestions to help minimize or eliminate the issue? (maybe a setting in the service menu)
Currently the PS2 is hooked up through component cables and I have tried both of the component inputs on the Sanyo.
One thing I have not attempted yet (I've been at home for winter break) is trying the composite cables I have for the PS2 to see if it for some reason was a component connection issue.
On a side note: for any of you with a PS2 that are anxiously awaiting the arrival of Gran Turismo 4 to the states, it supports racing in Hi-Def 1080i! I can't wait to get that goin on this Sanyo.
Thanks in advance to any information anyone may have.
Are you using the tvs built in speakers, or are you running sound through a receiver?
sf49ersnfl 01-15-05, 07:01 PM I have a question. I have dolby digital speakers but they only have orange digital connectors. Any way to connect these speakers digitally?
Now, my question to those with other consoles, or anyone that may have an idea, is: has anyone else encountered this issue? and. any suggestions to help minimize or eliminate the issue? (maybe a setting in the service menu)
I have the 32 inch and I have not had any lag or delay with my xbox games.
Originally posted by acer
I have the 32 inch and I have not had any lag or delay with my xbox games.
Thanks for the response. Have you played a game such as Madden or NCAA? Also, what kind of connection do you have your XBox hooked up to the TV with?
A new problem.....
I got back to my apartment today and turned on the tv..... the analog cable input just shows a black screen for every channel. I switched over to the digital input....it worked fine. I then switched to one of the composite inputs; it also worked fine. One of my roommates then informed me that "yeah, sometimes the cable channels don't work and then when I switch back over to them later, they work.....but then sometimes go out again".
I made sure that the cable and the connection were OK to the analog input. This is a problem that has just started ocurring in the past few weeks (since I've been home for break). I figured that maybe the TV just needed to warm up a bit, seeing that it's been hovering in the single digits outside this week and our apartment can get pretty chilly. So I left the TV on for about 20 minutes and still had no luck receiving the channels. The cable works fine on all our other TVs in the apartment. I'm thinking this will require a service visit from Sanyo... unless someone else has experienced a similar problem and know what's wrong?
Thanks for the response. Have you played a game such as Madden or NCAA? Also, what kind of connection do you have your XBox hooked up to the TV with?
I just tried the madden 04 demo (don't have the full game) and I tried to kick-off. I didn't experience any lag. I connect my xbox with the microsoft component hi-def pack.
I got back to my apartment today and turned on the tv..... the analog cable input just shows a black screen for every channel. I switched over to the digital input....it worked fine. I then switched to one of the composite inputs; it also worked fine. One of my roommates then informed me that "yeah, sometimes the cable channels don't work and then when I switch back over to them later, they work.....but then sometimes go out again".
Strange problem. You could try the channel search in the menu again.
Sounds like you just might be having problems with your tv. If possible, I would take it back to walmart.
Originally posted by acer
I just tried the madden 04 demo (don't have the full game) and I tried to kick-off. I didn't experience any lag. I connect my xbox with the microsoft component hi-def pack.
Strange problem. You could try the channel search in the menu again.
Sounds like you just might be having problems with your tv. If possible, I would take it back to walmart.
Thanks a lot for your help.
I (temporarily) solved my newfound issue with the analog input. I gave the TV a mild-mannered slap...and BAM...it works again. It's pretty apparent that the case and the board and inputs are not secured and tightened properly on my tv because any pressure (even very light) applied to the back of the TV causes a lot of horrible noise (visual and audio). As many people have suggested earlier in this thread as a potential reason for the "snow" problem many of us have been having; the TV may lack insufficient shielding....this problem I've experienced appears to be another instance of the poor shielding or just the use of a cheap case, I'll examine it later to see if any of the screws are loose.
Unfortunately my 90 day Wal-Mart return period ended just a week or two ago, but I will get in touch with Sanyo to see if they can send a service person out to me, or if I can bring it to a near-by servicing center. I really do love this TV aside from the couple problems I've had.
Shufflefield 01-16-05, 07:03 AM Originally posted by PrObLy
Unfortunately my 90 day Wal-Mart return period ended just a week or two ago, but I will get in touch with Sanyo to see if they can send a service person out to me, or if I can bring it to a near-by servicing center. I really do love this TV aside from the couple problems I've had.
You have a year to return this set. The Sanyo's at Wmart have an extended return policy. With the weird problems your having I would definitly give it another go with a new set.
I don't have any sports games so I can't comment on the timing issue. Although I can say that House of the Dead III with a Mad Catz blaster barely works. The light gun goes in and out and can't really be calibrated. I read up a bit and this seems to be true of all high def TV's using component connections...
Budget_HT 01-16-05, 11:17 AM Originally posted by sf49ersnfl
I have a question. I have dolby digital speakers but they only have orange digital connectors. Any way to connect these speakers digitally?
It sounds like you have a Dolby Digital A/V receiver with a coaxial, RCA jack (orange colored) as the available digital input, without an optical input.
If the TV only has an optical output, you can buy a converter that accepts optical input and delivers metallic coaxial output. Here is an example: http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=180-961
sterno3 01-16-05, 11:23 AM This is kind of an odd question, but here goes. I have had this TV since May, and i have a couple young kids. The TV is in our main play area, so inevitably the TV gets LOTS of finger prints/smears. I had no issue with that as 'kids will be kids'. I have always used just plain water on a soft paper towel & a soft cotton cloth to dry it.
This is probably not the optimal way to clean it, but it was effective and convinient. The issue I am now running into is a couple months ago, after cleaning it, I noticed there is some rainbowing on the screen (power on & off). It is almost like there is a film under the glass, that is causing a rainbow affect in really dark screens. 99% of the time I cant see it, but if the sceen is really dark or i am sitting close to the TV I can discern it.
Has anybody else seen this? Is this a common problem with CRTs?
oryan_dunn 01-16-05, 12:21 PM At work, we just use a window cleaner to clean the glass of the tvs. At home, i just use water and paper towels to clean the glass.
To clear up the return policy, with Sanyos and walmart, you have 90 days for returns and exchanges, but you have a year for exchanges.
gerbache 01-16-05, 12:41 PM Well, I'll agree that the video inputs seem rather spotty, but on my set, moving them around seems to have no effect on the picture. I'm still getting the snow, no matter what I do to shake the inputs. I'm probably just going to take it back to wal-mart and exchange it for another set, whenever I find a truck and someone to help me carry it.
roymuldoon41 01-16-05, 12:53 PM Hi. I am an extreme newbie so forgive my lack of knowledge on this subject, or if I have overlooked an explanation of my question on this forum somewhere else.
I am considering buying the Sanyo HD32744 from Wal-Mart and I know very little about HD tv's. I have standard cable from Cox Communications (not HD) and I am really only interested in taking advantage of the HD when viewing DVD's. I definitley like widescreen movies, and I would like to know if the picture on this set would be the complete picture when watching a widescreen DVD. Does this HD tv "cut off" some of the edges of the picture? I would hate to be watching my original trilogy Star Wars DVD's and have some of the picture missing! Also, does watching standard cable look clearer due to this set being HD?
I appreciate any help with these questions, and forgive my lack of knowledge!
Thanks!
Roy.
tichinose 01-16-05, 12:56 PM I have the ht32744 and i hoooked up my hd cable box with a hdi to hdmi cable...i can't get sound what other cable do i need.....
Amigo-2k 01-16-05, 01:54 PM Originally posted by tichinose
I have the ht32744 and i hoooked up my hd cable box with a hdi to hdmi cable...i can't get sound what other cable do i need.....
You may have to go through your cable box menu to have the sound input go to the HDMI output. I think it defaults to the rca.
Amigo-2k is correct. HDMI will carry sound, but DVI does not. I have the RCA left and right from the receiver to the Component three jacks, sound only. A way round this is to take the RCA Left and right jacks from the cable box or optic/coax out (or HD Directv receiver with DVI out in my case) into your amp/audio receiver.
Clevelandone 01-16-05, 04:11 PM Im on my second set and it has a yellowish tint on the right third of the picture. You can see it clearly on all white scenes. It's not interference either because I put it in a empty room to test it. I used the Star Wars Clone wars dvd to find it. The scene on that water planet thats all white where they make the clones. Don't look for it because it will bother you. I'm just gonna get my money back. I had no problem with XBOX using HI Def pack. DVD picture had some interference probally due to weak power supply.
Metallirat 01-17-05, 02:20 PM Hi,
I just got the 32" yesterday and I love the quality of High definition but i have a question. I've read through most of the posts in this thread and ive seen the topic discussed but i didnt really see a definitive answer. When watching normal SD programming on my cable (8300 HD DVR box from TWC) I get the bars on the top and bottom and left and right. The only way to get full screen is to zoom and the quality isn't as good. Is there any way to make it full screen or am i stuck with using the zoom feature. Thanks and sorry if it has already been covered.
BlackwaterStout 01-17-05, 02:51 PM Did you set your 8300HD box up correctly? The initial setup of the 8300 lets your box know if you have a 4:3 or a 16:9 television. It sounds like your is set to 16:9. You should set it up in 4:3 mode.
The instruction manual tells you how to access the setup mdoe on the 8300. I can't remember right off the top of my head but I think it involves simultaniously holding down the "guide" button and the "info" button on the front of the box.
Shufflefield 01-17-05, 03:16 PM It also seems to depend on who is broadcasting what. I have noticed that when I have the TV set to normal most local HD stations (Through Insight HD service) come in full screen but HBO HD is letterboxed even in normal mode. I didn't think it was an issue with the TV, more of an issue of what the broadcaster is doing. The resolution varies as well. The games on Fox and CBS yesterday were both 1080i. I could be wrong though, I would be interested in this answer as well...
Metallirat 01-17-05, 03:22 PM coomarlin,
I tried what you said and I got the menu and i selected 4X3 and such. Still when in Normal mode (from the tv remote) i get grey bars on left and right.
Edit: by the way, i used some rabbit ears and picked up fox-DT OTA and it is the same way. Not full screen unless zoomed and its a non HD program that is currently airing.
paco1029384756 01-17-05, 05:05 PM Is the tilting issue a problem with every set or is it only a few sets?
Originally posted by DaveBuck
Sanyo emailed me the .pdf for the 32"
But they did not include the "Digital Module" schematic.
They just left it as a box labeled ATSC decoder, interlace/progress scan scaler with PIP and PAP.
If they OEM'ed this subassembly then this may be the reason.
I don't want open the case just yet to read the chip names.
I wonder if they are using the ATI chip sets?
Anybody got any facts the black box?
Please check your private mail.
How do I connect this Sanyo to my computer to use as a monitor...?
What do I need?
HELP!
thanks
tichinose 01-18-05, 08:34 AM i get that same problem....black lines on top, bottom , left and right....also once in a while the tv flickers and pauses..not sure if it's the cable or tv...
upNdown 01-18-05, 01:05 PM Originally posted by roymuldoon41
Hi. I am an extreme newbie so forgive my lack of knowledge on this subject, or if I have overlooked an explanation of my question on this forum somewhere else.
I am considering buying the Sanyo HD32744 from Wal-Mart and I know very little about HD tv's. I have standard cable from Cox Communications (not HD) and I am really only interested in taking advantage of the HD when viewing DVD's. I definitley like widescreen movies, and I would like to know if the picture on this set would be the complete picture when watching a widescreen DVD. Does this HD tv "cut off" some of the edges of the picture? I would hate to be watching my original trilogy Star Wars DVD's and have some of the picture missing! Also, does watching standard cable look clearer due to this set being HD?
I appreciate any help with these questions, and forgive my lack of knowledge!
Thanks!
Roy.
Roy, in short the answers are yes and no. Yes, you'll see the complete image when watching widescreen DVD's, as long as you set your TV to 'letterbox' (of course you'll have black bars above and below the picture).
No, standard cable will not necessarily look clearer, in fact standard analog cable may look less clear than it would on a decent analog TV.
The other thing you should know is that DVD's aren't HD, so having an HD set doesn't really give you an advantage you DVD's. If you have a progressive scan DVD player, that may help, but I'm not sure there's a noticible difference on a TV of this size. Of course now they also have upconverting DVD players, and I'm not sure what those things do.
sterno3 01-18-05, 02:17 PM Originally posted by bcm
How do I connect this Sanyo to my computer to use as a monitor...?
What do I need?
HELP!
thanks
Here is a link to some things people are doing:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=414867
I am building barebones HTPC right now, and I will be using a myHD card (MDP-120 version is available and the MDP-130 with QAM support is coming soon). I will be using component outs from that card for HDTV & DVD, but I think you might just want a nice video card that supports the resolution of the TV, and adjust for overscan etc...
roymuldoon41 01-18-05, 07:00 PM Thank you - I appreciate your response Upndown.
This forum has been a great help to me.
SunSpotiens 01-19-05, 12:19 AM Originally posted by PrObLy
Hey everyone.
I posted my initial impression with the 32" beast somewhere earlier in this thread. I'm still enjoying this TV greatly but have been bothered by one very irritating problem that I haven't seen anyone else explicitly mention.
The reason I'm posting again, is because I've noticed many of you are Xbox players. Although my main console is a PS2, I was wondering if you guys/gals could help me out with a problem I'm having regarding gaming and this TV.
While playing the game "Amplitude" (a timing/rhythm based music game) I could not, for the life of me, hit any of the notes on the beat. I at first thought there was something wrong with either my PS2 controller or my PS2 itself....something causing it to lag, or delay either my controller inputs or the image on the screen.
I then decided to play some Madden. Again, when it came time to do something where timing is very important (kicking a field goal) I could not kick the ball straight or near full force unless I deliberately compensated and hit the button early. I'm not positive, but I would estimate this delay to be somewhere around 100-200 milliseconds....clearly not a HUGE amount, but enough to throw off intricate timings.
I eliminated my PS2 and controllers for being at fault by using them on a couple separate TV's and they worked A-OK.
Now, my question to those with other consoles, or anyone that may have an idea, is: has anyone else encountered this issue? and. any suggestions to help minimize or eliminate the issue? (maybe a setting in the service menu)
I had this same problem with NCAA 2005 for the PS2 when I was using the standard A/V cables that came with the console when I switched to component cables( red blue green connections) the problem disappeared. *shrugz* I know you said you were already using component cables...but the switch definitely worked for me.
TAYREL713 01-19-05, 04:06 PM This TV has been my most desired purchase for some time and I am nearly ready to purchase. What I want to know is, is the TV digital cable ready, and if not does it accept a cable card?
Shufflefield 01-19-05, 06:00 PM Originally posted by TAYREL713
This TV has been my most desired purchase for some time and I am nearly ready to purchase. What I want to know is, is the TV digital cable ready, and if not does it accept a cable card?
It is cable ready, but you may not see an improvement on your digital cable, other than possibly using a better connection, depending on the set top box you use. If you have digital cable though, you can plug directly into your TV and may get the HD channels. Or you can use bunny ears. I wound up just updating my set top through the cable company since I didn't like the lack of menu functions just getting the stations direct.
I think this is true of all digital cable (it is of Comcast in MD and of Insight in OH) that your cable ready TV will get the stations, but most of the perks of going digital are lost, like on demand, menus, on screen guides, and PPV. For any of those you have to use the box.
Originally posted by TAYREL713
This TV has been my most desired purchase for some time and I am nearly ready to purchase. What I want to know is, is the TV digital cable ready, and if not does it accept a cable card?
The definition of "digital cable ready" requires that a TV support cable card. Therefore since this TV does not support cable card, it is not "digital cable ready". That does not mean it will not tune digital cable changes. It CAN tune digitial channels that are not encrypted by the cable provider, also called clear QAM.
ma_string 01-20-05, 09:44 AM What kind of channels are encrypted and what kind of channels aren't encrypted?
timmy1376 01-20-05, 03:17 PM The way I understand on this TV is one source on PIP HAS to be a digital channel. Does the HDMI count as digital?
I cannot receive any digital channels OTA and I am not counting on unencrypted QAM from the cable company.
I want to watch to games at once, but it will not work for me if HDMI doesn't count.
r.jones 01-20-05, 03:20 PM I believe the digital source has to come from the integrated digital tuner.
dchandler60 01-20-05, 11:02 PM New guy here, alot of helpful info. My question is this I`m going to purchase the 30" model Sat and was wondering if I get a DVD player that has HDMI output can I hook that up to the tv and still run my audio to my Onkyo reciever?
Or should I just go with the regular component cables and audio cable?
I just didnt know that if I sent the signal through the HDMI if I could get the sound out the DVD player other than HDMI if it is hooked up? I hope I make sense and thanks for all the help!!
TomClancy 01-21-05, 02:19 PM So did anyone find a way to fix the green lines when watching DVDs on the Xbox?
i also have green lines watching dvd's on xbox as well as having a green horizontal streak in the middle of the screen when playing games. my ota and composite signals look great. any help would be greatly appreciated
MarkEagle 01-21-05, 06:30 PM I have just purchased the HT32744 as my first foray into HDTV (the price was right and I didn't know any better!). The picture quality is excellent and the screen size is perfect for our small living room.
However, I'm confused about the different formats the TV can display. Should it automatically adjust based on the signal it's receiving? I find that we're constantly using the Pix Shape button to adjust the screen when switching from standard TV channels to HDTV channels.
I have a Motorola DCT6200 HD cable box (Comcast New England) and gone through all the settings on both it and the TV. Yet we still need to manually adjust the aspect.
Any help for this HDTV newbie would be most welcomed!
New2HDTVnc 01-22-05, 01:41 AM I've been reading this thread and didn't know the definitive answer to what the native resolution is for this set. I was hoping it was like the Samsungs that have the built-in tuner: 1080i/480p. I emailed Sanyo the following:
The user manual online for the HT30744 30" Widescreen HDTV only list the scanning format (which I assume is the naitive resolution) of this set as 1080i. I know it accepts all the standard signals as input 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i and will upconvert them to 1080i.
My question is: is the native resolution only 1080i ? It's not 480p also? The new Samsung 30" WS HDTV sets like the TX3075 lists their native resolution as 1080i/480p meaning they will display an incoming 480p signal with no upconversion done.
Does your set support 480p natively or is there a conversion done on an incoming 480p signal to upconvert it to 1080i ?
The email response from Sanyo was:
The native display is only 1080i, so there is upconverting with any other signal.
This is disappointing to me. I'm still considering the 30" WS though.
sf49ersnfl 01-22-05, 12:47 PM even thought it upconverts it still looks fantastic on this set as I cant even notice the upconvert
flacoman 01-22-05, 12:51 PM Quick remote question:
Can't get the remote to work on the Motorola 5100 cable box .
Does anyone know the code for it?
TIA
Jorge
New2HDTVnc 01-22-05, 05:36 PM I've been seriously thinking about the 30" WS HD Sanyo from Walmart but I might now be screwed because it is no longer listed on Walmart.com
They still have the 32" (4:3) HD Sanyo however.
I hope this is just a hiccup from maybe them being out of stock and not them dumping the 30" model because of all the problems.
The Super Walmart in Monroe, NC didn't have them. I'm going to go check a few in Charlotte,NC in the hopes one is still available. $650 for a 30" widescreen HDTV is to good a deal to pass up.
Did anyone in the Charlotte, NC area have any luck getting one of the 30" WS Sanyo HDTVs ?
brijenjas 01-22-05, 06:53 PM New2HDTVnc ,I have been checking the Walmart website regularly the last month and a half (I will be purchasing HT32744 with income tax return) and both sets have disappeared and reappeared at the site.
I assume when they are out of stock they remove the item, then when restocked, they relist it.
New2HDTVnc 01-22-05, 07:04 PM Yeah you are right. I went back and searched their sight using "sanyo" and found the page for the 30" WS and it says out of stock.
I'm considering the 30" WS Panasonic CT-30WC14 they have for 797.00 although I was wanting one with a built-in tuner because I have Time/Warner Road Runner but not their tv service. I use Directv. But I was wanting to try and see if the HD tuner in the Sanyo would pick up unencrypted HD channels coming over the cable line.
I wonder if anyone else has tried this with T/W cable.
In the end, if I get an HDTV I'll get T/W's HDTV service because the equipment cost for Directv is just to much plus you can't get local HD channels yet in my area over Directv.
oryan_dunn 01-22-05, 07:13 PM I don't know anything in particular, but april and may is usually when the new models of tv's come out. Sanyo *may* be releasing a new model of HDTV just based on the past pattern. If so, I hope that they add cable card support, fix the issues of tilt, green lines, and snow, and make it with a black cabinet. My dad is considering a new hdtv, and i told him to wait until that time to see what comes out. Also, after new models come out is a good time to score deals on the old models. As with last year, i'll let you guys know the minute i do about any new sets.
flacoman 01-23-05, 09:12 AM oryan_dunn : does walmart also sell HDMI cables?
I'd like to try an all digital feed to the Sanyo.
TIA
Jorge
oryan_dunn 01-23-05, 02:51 PM Ours doesn't. I'm not sure if other stores do or not.
Bookworm 01-23-05, 11:17 PM Originally posted by New2HDTVnc
Did anyone in the Charlotte, NC area have any luck getting one of the 30" WS Sanyo HDTVs ?
Well, after reading all this here my wife and I went to the Wal-Mart on Albemarle Road here in Charlotte and they had one in the back in a filthy box that appeared to have had coffee spilled on it. We opened the box and the inside was clean with no sign of leakage so we bought it and took it home. We should have looked for more than just evidence of a leak. When we took it out of the box the case had a huge crack in the upper right corner where it borders the screen. :( Apparently it had been dropped on it's front and the weight of the tube and electronics cracked it. We boxed it back up and returned it for a refund. Luckily the store is only about a mile from our house. The guy in the eletronics dept. called the North Sardis Road store and the one at University Place with no luck. He said to check back periodically as they usually get restocked with them about every ten days. Hopefully we can get one before Super Bowl Sunday so we'll have a second set to go with our Panasonic PT-50LC14.
New2HDTVnc 01-24-05, 07:11 PM Now I'm not sure if I want the Sanyo or the Advent 30" widescreen HDTV that Kmart has in this week's flyer for $499. I'm not sure about Advent but could they be worse than Sanyo?
http://www.adventtv.com/3061adetail.htm
There are the details on the advent 30" widescreen if anyone is interested.
oryan_dunn 01-24-05, 07:54 PM Well, the Advent doesn't have the built in tuner, but if you dont' need that, then it looks like an ok deal. Make sure to check out their return/exchange policy and the warranty on the tv. With the sanyo, its 90 days return/exchange and 1 year exchange.
New2HDTVnc 01-24-05, 08:07 PM The tuner and 1yr exchange are big pluses for me with the Sanyo. But I'm looking at HDTV on a budget so I have to look at all options. haha.
oryan_dunn 01-24-05, 11:36 PM Well, look at it this way, the tuner will cost somewhere in the 100-150 range if you get teh advent. I know in my situation, i could kick myself for not getting the slightly better tv with dvi. It was about 100-150 more at the time, but I was on a budget. I would gladly pay 100 or so bucks to add dvi to my tv now. You can also look into the walmart credit card. I think that they may have something like 3 months no intrest or something if you need some time to save up.
BlackAdam 01-25-05, 06:55 PM Originally posted by New2HDTVnc
Now I'm not sure if I want the Sanyo or the Advent 30" widescreen HDTV that Kmart has in this week's flyer for $499. I'm not sure about Advent but could they be worse than Sanyo?
http://www.adventtv.com/3061adetail.htm
There are the details on the advent 30" widescreen if anyone is interested. LOL, WOW! Ok... these Sanyo TVs are quality... they are almost as good as the $1000 Sony ones, but these have an integrated ATSC (HD) tuner. Advent is complete sh*t. They make really crappy and cheap audio products... they just got into the TV business. I wouldn't touch a $500 HDTV with a ten foot poll. If you are going to get it... go down to K-Mart and play with it and watch HD footage. Otherwise, you're playing with fire.
I got the chance to see the 32" Sanyo yesterday at Walmart, and boy... did it look good. We were originally planning to get the 30" but our cabinet is 35.5" wide... while the set is 35.7" wide. So, we'll be going with the 32" at a 35" width. I fell in love with the set at the store. They had it displaying a nice HD signal in 16:9... couldn't tell if it was 720p or 1080i, but it looked good. The set looks sturdy and not cheap at all. There was no geometry or color problems with the store set, and almost walked out with it. They had only one left, in the back... so we'll end up hitting other Walmarts and getting one a few days prior to the Super Bowl.
New2HDTVnc 01-25-05, 07:20 PM Oh I figured Advent wasn't very good but I've never known anyone that had a Sanyo either. The only thing I don't like about the Sanyo is that it doesn't natively display a 480p image. It upconverts it to 1080i. Thats according to Sanyo support who I email with that question. The image you were seeing on that set was probably 1080i because it doesn't do 720p natively. It upconverts that signal to 1080i. But for $650 you can't have everything. haha.
Unfortunately the Walmart I went to had a crap-tacular "HD" signal going to their TVs so you really couldn't get a feel for how good the Sanyo or any of the other HDTVs there are.
The tuner isn't that big of a deal because I'm not able to get very good reception of local stations as is so I will be going with digital HD cable whenever I get an HDTV.
Like you I want one for the Superbowl so mostly likely I'll go with the Sanyo.
tichinose 01-26-05, 07:38 AM when i watch my sanyo 32 inch in HDTV it sometime hesitates for a second or so and goes on.....Is this the Tv or the hdtv broadcast......also I still can't get sound to work when I hook up DVI to Hdmi
Bookworm 01-26-05, 10:28 AM I managed to track down another one at the Aboretum store on Monday. I wasn't too crazy about the analog cable picture but then it is analog so I wasn't expecting much. Tuesday I bought a $20 Philips set top antenna and the OTA HD picture is very good. It's amazing to think that little antenna can bring in such a great picture. This TV was mainly for my wife to watch when she doesn't want to watch football or a race and she's very happy with it so that's what counts.:)
The only thing I don't like about the Sanyo is that it doesn't natively display a 480p image. It upconverts it to 1080i. Thats according to Sanyo support who I email with that question.
I am not sure if I really believe that. Their customer service also said that this set supports 720p without upconversion(earlier in this thread), and we all know it doesn't do that . All of my xbox games look great in 480p, and I compared it to my friends $1600 sony that supports 480p, and it is virtually identical. I think that this set supports 480p without having to upconvert.
sterno3 01-26-05, 01:20 PM Originally posted by acer
I am not sure if I really believe that. Their customer service also said that this set supports 720p without upconversion(earlier in this thread), and we all know it doesn't do that . All of my xbox games look great in 480p, and I compared it to my friends $1600 sony that supports 480p, and it is virtually identical. I think that this set supports 480p without having to upconvert.
Given the size of the screen, would you even be able to differentiate between a 'native' 480p & an upconvert to 1080i?
Originally posted by Shufflefield
You have a year to return this set. The Sanyo's at Wmart have an extended return policy.
Shufflefield,
You are correct, but I want to expand on what you said:
There is a 90 day RETURN for money back on the Sanyo, and a 1 year EXCHANGE on the Sanyo.
So, after the 90 days, you cannot get your money back, but you can exchange it for another Sanyo.
About the ADVENT . . .
Without knowing any facts, I would bet that the Advent TV is probably made by someone else. Advent was an older US speaker company, and I would bet that they do not make TV's at the Advent factory, they probably sold their name and someone slapped on their name on a TV so that they would have an "exclusive".
New2HDTVnc 01-26-05, 01:40 PM Well neither the manual nor the website mention anything about displaying in a progressive scan mode or supporting progressive scan so I tend to think its not supported. That it up-converts everything to 1080i.
Well neither the manual nor the website mention anything about displaying in a progressive scan mode or supporting progressive scan so I tend to think its not supported. That it up-converts everything to 1080i.
Good point. I am just not sure the the customer service knows what their talking about. But if it converted a 480p signal to 1080i, wouldn't it be displayed in widescreen? My xbox games are still displayed in a 4:3 aspec ratio.
New2HDTVnc 01-26-05, 08:23 PM I think you have to set your Xbox to output widescreen. I did it on my regular 4:3 TV so I could play Madden in widescreen mode (which you have to set up in Madden's menu to) thus seeing more of the field. If the game doesn't support widescreen then I don't think it will show a widescreen image for a game.
Could be its showing a 480i image on the screen and not upconverting it to 1080i.
bhenley 01-26-05, 09:22 PM Originally posted by sterno3
Given the size of the screen, would you even be able to differentiate between a 'native' 480p & an upconvert to 1080i?
You can "hear" the difference. My DRV has two sets of composite outputs and if you connect one set of RCA jacks to an AV receiver and the other set to the audio in on the Sanyo, there is no lag between the AV audio and the TV audio. Nor is there a lip sync delay on the video. When I had a DLP that DID upconvert a 480i signal, it was very apparent that the TV introduced a delay in the audio to match the delay it introduced in the video doing the upconvert. If it didn't delay the audio, you'd see lip sync issues. If the Sanyo is upconverting a 480i signal (instead of line doubled to a 480p display), it is able to do the upconversion "instantly" - something my previous DLP couldn't do, eventhough it was 5 times the price. People notice lip sync issues somewhere around 50ms (independent of screen size) and the TVs that actually did upconvert were taking at least 100ms to do so - there was an echo if both audio sources were used when it was upconverted.
Actually supporting 480p and 1080i displays (like several other CRTs do) means you add stuff for the dual support but don't need any 480->1080 upconverstion support.
Sanyo's CSRs have said it doesn't upconvert and they've said it does. What is required is someone that has the case opened with a scope on Hsync with all the various input frequencies used. I'm not that person.
what color enhancer have you guys set your tv to, normal ,cool, warm? also has anyone used dve for calibration?
skipper3 01-27-05, 10:41 AM Hello, I have the 32 inch Sanyo and a Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD cable box. My cable service is Cablevision in NJ. I use the component hookups and they work just fine. I switched to a HDMI cable (Radioshack $100) and unplugged the component wires (the cable box has HDMI). I changed the audio output on the cable box to HDMI and the input on the TV to HDMI and when I switch channels some of them have audio and some do not. Then if I go back to a channel that did it will not. It seems if I go to a HD channel I get the sound back. Also it seems to take a while between channels to the picture to show (it shows no signal for about 1-2 secs). Any idea why I am not getting sound and why the delay between channels for picture? By the way I ran the setup on the cable box with HDMI and all formats are accepted and chosen.
Thanks
bchase6933 01-27-05, 10:38 PM Skipper3, I had the same problem with the sound when hooked up to my surround system, although I have Time Warner. I only get audio on the digital tier and up... the lower channels are analog. I'm guessing it is the same for your cable company.
skipper3 01-27-05, 10:42 PM bchase6933, that's true. Do you think that the box is not converting the analog audio to digital and therefor not being passed along on the HDMI? I guess that would make sense but would be a serious limitation where people that wanted to use HDMI would have to switch between component3 and hdmi after going past channel 99 in my case.
skipper3,
I might be mistaken but I doubt the cable boxes will take analog audio and encode them digitally, to transmit on the HDMI. I think the audio on the HDMI link is only a digital audio stream.
On a slightly different note: Have you tried to hook your cable direct to the digital tuner on the Sanyo? I was wondering how many digital channels Cablevision sends in ClearQAM.
AMgold
mahicks 01-30-05, 11:49 PM Ok...I've had enough...lol.....
I'm a store manager at a Wal-Mart Super Center. I've read this forum for about a month since I purchased my HT32744. There a few facts I wanted to post for you all.
First...There is NO "Extended Warranty" on Sanyo TV's...PERIOD......Yet we do have a WONDERFUL relationship with Sanyo America and you can, under almost any cirumstance, get an exchange for a Sanyo TV that is ANY reasonable age. I once had a customer that returned a 31" Sanyo early in my career started off with her story " My Husband was cleaning his gun and........." This is no joke. I at first refused the exchange...But.............The customer called Sanyo and got an RA number to exchange it. To make this story short....Sanyo has a wonderful relationship with Wal-Mart. Even though there is no "Written" warranty for longer than 90 Days, Wal-Mart and Sanyo will almost always take care of you. I only wanted to post this fact because sooner or later someone from here is going to go to Wal-Mart to exchange a TV and someone is going to say " Sorry, the warranty system says 90 days w/ a reciept."
Second... There is not a firm corporate policy on "price protection." Meaning your milage my vary between stores when a price change happens and you want the diffence. Most Store Managers will go along with a "30 Day Policy"
Third... Ryan, gave an explanation on why some Wal-mart stores have the Item at the New price, and some have them at the old price. Your explanation was fairly accurate in an innocent way. But..........to be honest the main reason that some stores had one price, and others had another is simple....The department manager did a poor job of showing the value and changing the Label on the shelf.
Fourth... I just returned from our Anual Year End Meeting in Kansas City, MO and unfortunately, I did not see any new Sanyo HDTV models that will be in the stores before July (We have a 3rd and 4th quarter meeting in Dallas in LATE July.)
Fifth..., and most important.....
Our Service desks ALL have a sign that says "Satisfaction Guaranteed" Remember that when you have a problem with ANY product. We aim to please and if you have a problem with anyone please remind them of this policy. Most stores will take care of anyone as long as they will get credit from the Manufacturer on the item they are returning. Like I said above, Sanyo has a wonderful relationship with Wal-Mart and will give us credit on almost anything.
Sixth...If you have a problem, please ask to speak to a member of management, we have the autonomy to take care of you and make sure you have a positive shopping experience.
New2HDTVnc 01-31-05, 01:27 AM I assume by "extended warrenty" that you are talking the 1yr exchange policy on Sanyo's that others have mentioned in here?
That you are not talking about the 2 or 3yr Service plan that you can purchase at walmart.com for tv's purchased online or at the retail stores.
Correct?
brijenjas 01-31-05, 01:27 AM It is my understanding (please correct me if I am wrong) according to the "Returns Policy"posted at Walmart.com, that you can return an item within 90 days if you are not satisfied with it for any reason, for either exchange or credit.
The warranty page for the Sanyo 32"
at Walmart .com has this to say:
excerpt; see walmart.com/catalog/prod_info.gsp?product_id=2601424&cat=136937&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A172479%3A3996%3A136937#6[/url]
Sorry I am unable to post the entire link until I have 5 posts.
"FOR ONE YEAR from the date of purchase, Sanyo Manufacturing Corporation will replace any defective TV.To insure proper warranty exchange, keep the original sales receipt for evidence of purchase. Return the defective TV to the retailer along with the receipt and the included accessories, such as the remote control. The defective TV will be exchanged for the same model, or a replacement model of equal value, if necessary. Replacement model will be contingent on availability and at the sole discretion of Sanyo Manufacturing Corporation."
Unless I read this wrong, if the TV fails (becomes defective) within one year, it is to be returned to the retailer "Walmart" for exchange.
oryan_dunn 01-31-05, 01:44 AM Here's the full link
Sanyo Warranty (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod_info.gsp?product_id=2601424&cat=136937&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%253A3944%253A172479%253A3996%253A136937#6)
oryan_dunn 01-31-05, 01:47 AM By reading that, it sounds like Sanyo's warranty is the same as that of other tvs, but they go through walmart and just give you a new set instead of fixing your old one.
bhenley 01-31-05, 11:42 AM And here's the link to the 3 year service contract sold at walmart.com (not available at any store):
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2349401
It is NOT a Sanyo Extended Warranty, but a 3 year service contract for ANY TV sold by WalMart in the $200-$750 range.
Description
Service Plans are sold only online. You may purchase this plan to cover electronics items you buy both online and in stores. Please note: Plans are not returnable in stores. Should you wish to return your plan, call 1-800-966-6546
...
Service Plan
3 Year Service Plans provide enhanced and extended product protection beyond the manufacturer's parts & labor warranty. Coverage begins immediately following the manufacturer's labor and parts warranty
These plans DON'T involve the WalMart brick and mortar stores. After the first year where you DO take the TV back to the store, these service plans:
In-Home/On-Site Service Available- Qualified products, mirroring the manufacturer's warranty, receive convenient in-home or on-site service.
Like an extended warranty for lots of other products, they aren't exactly the same as the original warranty but I certainly wouldn't have said
There is NO "Extended Warranty" on Sanyo TV's...PERIOD
Bill1313 01-31-05, 11:59 AM mahicks, You seem to pass the buck by saying that it's the department manager's fault for not changing the price on an item. As far as I'm concerned it's your fault for letting your department managers be so slip shot & it's your job to be on top of them. After being in retail though I know how things can get screwed up every now & then but I know at both the local Wal-Mart's in my area things are "Always" Screwed UP time after time & I hate to say it but you do get what you pay for in help & sometimes it seems that all Wal-Mart cares about is having a warm body there with no knowledge at all but it's your job to be on top of them. You are correct in saying that if you have a problem you should speak to a manager but then on the other hand why should we even have to be asking to talk to a manager when the employees should be trained that if they have a problem with a customer to go get a manager to straighten it out & why should any customer have to remind any employee of the "Store Policy" the employee should have already been tained to know what the store policy is rather than getting into any confrontation with a customer over it. As I used to tell my managers if you would get your ass out of the office every once in a while maybe you would know what the hell is going on down on the floor. :D
Bill --
Punctuaction goes a long way to making your posts a bit more readable.
I think what mahicks was trying to put across was the fact that Walmart as a company is willing to bend over backwards to address the concerns of customers, regardless of what certain policies in place are.
And let's face it, while it's nice in a perfect world to always have section managers managing from the X, to swoop in and save any potential customer disputes, it's often not a realistic proposition. Other business demands often displace management from what should be their sole focus, and it comes down to the section staff to carry the torch.
Some carry it better than others.
Just know that if you're not happy with the person you're speaking to, ask to speak to someone else. Trust me, the good business managers.. the ones that know that the customer comes before anything, are there. They're just so good that the demands on them put them out of range of customers.
Thus the ultimate irony of corporate customer service businesses.
Bill1313 01-31-05, 07:55 PM Not getting on your case but "The ones that know that the customer comes before anything" should be "ALL" of them if they were trained right in the first place & people are supervising them. The sad thing is that Wal-Mart has a Great policy with customers & it's a shame that most people don't know that but that's from poor supervision at store level.
Myself I have never had any problems dealing with any stores because I will ask for a department manager or with discount chains I always ask for the store manager & if he/she can't solve my problem it's right on the phone to HQ.
But your average customer is not going to do that their just going to walk out mad & that's why it's soooo important to have EVERYBODY trained on how to handle customers especially one that's hopping mad.
And now back to electronics...........Please :)
mahicks 02-01-05, 12:43 AM Ok....Started a wild fire.....
New2HDTVnc: What you and others are stating is SANYO's NOT Wal-Marts POLICY....ACTUALLY to be more ACCURATE, the policy that most on here are quoting is for Wal-Mart.COM.
brijenjas: You are correct, but this is SANYO's warranty.
oryan_dunn: "By reading that, it sounds like Sanyo's warranty is the same as that of other tvs, but they go through walmart and just give you a new set instead of fixing your old one." YOUR CORRECT on THIS ONE.
bhenley: I'll Say it again, "there is no extended warranty on Sanyo TV's!" THe extended warranty that you can PURCHASE that you talk about is available for any TV in that price range. When I made the statement, I was implying that there is not an automatic "built in" longer warranty. I made absolutely no impression that you could not PURCHASE a longer warranty. Hell, most people can get that just by using the right CREDIT CARD when they purchase something. Also, FYI, you also see that if you read the fine print, when you buy the extended warranty....In most states, after 30 DAYS, (NOT THE USUAL 90) You most go through the Warranty Service and not the store.
Bill1313: You took what I had to say WAAAYYY off the mark. I'm not going to get in a bickering match with you. That was not my intentions with my post. I was only trying to clear up a few misconceptions. As far as the department manager thing goes. Your correct for alot of stores, but not mine or my districts. But to take it one step further. ALOT of the Department Managers make the same as alot of good Assistant Managers, so yes, I will pass the buck to them. My saying is"If you want to wear the the title of Manager (Store MANAGER, department MANAGER, assistant MANAGER) then you better be willing to accept the resposibility of being a MANAGER.
ALSO, I get the feeling you have been a department manager and think they shouldn't have this total responsibility??? My answer for this is they SHOULD.. Most of them are responsible for 1 Million dollar PLUS departments.
An AVERAGE electronics department manager is resposible for a department that has about a million in inventory, 5-8 associates, and does over 5 million dollars in sales a year. I know of alot of "Mom and Pop" stores that would love to have any of that. ALL that being said, YES, I EXPECT my department managers to do something as elementary as changing a shelf tag after a price change, no questions asked, PERIOD.
vttym: Thank You for the rescue.
I think what mahicks was trying to put across was the fact that Walmart as a company is willing to bend over backwards to address the concerns of customers, regardless of what certain policies in place are.
THIS WAS THE MAIN OBJECTIVE OF MY POST
Bill1313
Myself I have never had any problems dealing with any stores because I will ask for a department manager or with discount chains I always ask for the store manager & if he/she can't solve my problem it's right on the phone to HQ.
Why would you do that? The Department manager is alot more important and probably more skilled in their respective area than the store manager (Just like in ANY OTHER BUSINESS). Also as stated above, they get paid well to take care of you, give them at least a CHANCE to fail you.
But your average customer is not going to do that their just going to walk out mad & that's why it's soooo important to have EVERYBODY trained on how to handle customers especially one that's hopping mad.
Your ABSOLUTELY CORRECT ON THIS ONE.
And now back to electronics...........Please
Ditto!
So does anyone have any idea if these are coming back in stock, or are they being quietly discontinued? My friend had to buy a floor model from a Walmart that had opened the previous day, so it was basically still new. It looks great, so now I just have to have my own. :D
mahicks 02-01-05, 10:33 AM Yes they are "comming back instock"
They were on display at the Year End Meeting.
Funny thing though...the 32" wasn't?
Heh, after realizing that 16:9 content on the 32" is still about 29.4" I may just get the 32" afterall.
EDIT: Sorry if this has been answered, but has anyone ever gotten any confirmation that the 32" has 16:9 Enhance/vertical squeeze?
Bill1313 02-01-05, 04:25 PM mahicks, Just wanted to add that I went from a part-time kid sweeping the floor up to a distric manager then leaving & opening my own small stores selling them & going into semi-retirement all before the age of 40. When I was a store manager in the 70's my salary was around $200,000 a year & as a stock clerk in the 60's in today's money it would have been around $800 a week & I'm guessing that Wal-Mart doesn't even pay department managers that kind of money today & if they do the ones I've seen then are overpayed. Not your salary, but what does a store manager make running a small volume small square foot unit for Wal-Mart?
bhenley 02-01-05, 04:37 PM Originally posted by mahicks
Ok....Started a wild fire.....
New2HDTVnc: What you and others are stating is SANYO's NOT Wal-Marts POLICY....ACTUALLY to be more ACCURATE, the policy that most on here are quoting is for Wal-Mart.COM.
brijenjas: You are correct, but this is SANYO's warranty.
YOUR CORRECT on THIS ONE.
bhenley: I'll Say it again, "there is no extended warranty on Sanyo TV's!" THe extended warranty that you can PURCHASE that you talk about is available for any TV in that price range. When I made the statement, I was implying that there is not an automatic "built in" longer warranty. I made absolutely no impression that you could not PURCHASE a longer warranty. Hell, most people can get that just by using the right CREDIT CARD when they purchase something. Also, FYI, you also see that if you read the fine print, when you buy the extended warranty....In most states, after 30 DAYS, (NOT THE USUAL 90) You most go through the Warranty Service and not the store.
At the top of the page, you'll find a Search this thread field. If you enter Extended warranty in that field, EVERY post prior to yours discussed the purchase of an extended warranty through WalMart.com. The original thread mentioned in the first post of this thread also used the WalMart.com purchase when talking about extended warranty. That's what causes confusion with your statements. You can't claim that "I made absolutely no impression" - you can only claim your intent. Impressions are exclusively determined by the person getting the impression from what is written. It would be like saying "I didn't give anybody the impression that I didn't know the difference between your and you're." Quite clearly, you DID leave the impression you might be saying an extended warranty wasn't available at all. Reread New2HDTVnc questions to you. You don't think you left him with the impression you might be taking about the purchased extended warranty? Reread your answer to him and ask yourself it it answered his questions.
I'm really not clear on what you are saying. When I read the fine print (some time ago), I was left with the impression that the purchased extended warranty didn't have any effect at all until the mfg warranty expired (but had to be purchased while said warranty was in effect). I took that to mean that the warranty didn't need to be purchased until 11 months after the TV. How does your "30, not normal 90" emphasis effect people? I don't see how purchasing something would suddenly change the written and verbal 90 day return for cash back I got from the store initially. Why did you emphasize the "In most states, "? The extended warranty page info says "in home" long before reading any fine print. If I were to decide to purchase the extended warranty in 6 months (I can, can't I? It doesn't have to be purchased w/in the brick and mortar 90 days does it?), does the 30 or 90 day issue have any effect at all?
When you said "extended warranty", were you talking about a return to the store 90 days after purchase and before the 1 year mfg warranty expires?
New2HDTVnc 02-01-05, 08:37 PM I'm thinking of getting the 30" widescreen HT30744 tomorrow. The only problem is that the walmart near here that has it in stock sells it for $50 more than walmart.com lists it and the guy I talked to on the phone says the store might not match it.
If I could get Time/Warner cable out here before 2/8/05 to install my HD cable service then I'd just go to Costco and get the phillips 30" ws that they have for $50 less than the Sanyo sells for at walmart.com.
The only reason I'm still looking at the Sanyo is because of the built in tuner so I can watch the Superbowl in Hi Def.
Amigo-2k 02-01-05, 09:56 PM Is this a Walmart Trend or a Sanyo trend? Take the Walmart fist fight offline via email!
-Ryan
mahicks 02-01-05, 10:26 PM Thank You Amigo,
I think, I'll take your advice.
oryan_dunn 02-01-05, 10:49 PM mahicks, check your pm.
jsp2000 02-02-05, 10:26 PM Bringing this discussion back to the TV...I bought the 32 inch at Wal-Mart over the weekend. It took a lot of hunting...I checked every WM in the Memphis area two weeks ago, and no one had them. I went to a Supercenter in Mississippi that had only been open for 2 days this past Saturday...they had one. Now I'm noticing they are coming into stock again.
Anyway, my initial impressions of this TV are that it's an excellent set. Using plain old analog cable the picture in 4:3 mode looks great. HD channels coming in over an antenna look amazing. Since the 32 inch in 16:9 mode gives you essentially the same HDTV screen size as the 30 inch WS, I opted for the 32...for the simple reason that 4:3 channels are bigger. I'm hoping my upcoming digital cable install gives me an even better picture. Who knows?
I can't believe all the plug-ins on the back of this thing. I can't imagine ever filling ever input. DVD, XBOX, Cable Box, VCR, surround sound reciever...this thing can handle it all. I've never been in a situation where the TV can handle more inputs than the "entertainment center" that it's sitting in. It's a good problem to have.
I know I'm gushing, but I'm really happy with this set. I shudder to think I almost spent $300 more on an equivilent set at Best Buy. When it comes to getting the most bang for your buck (especially considering the built-in tuner) I don't think HDTV gets much better than this set.
mahicks 02-03-05, 07:12 PM JSP....do you currently have any cable service? If so, you might want to plug your cable cord into the digital antenna input. Depending on your cable provider, you may be able to receive DIGITAL cable channels that are "in the clear" i.e. non scrambled digital cable, these could include your locals in HD, music channels, etc. It's worth a try and only takes about 10 minutes for the TV to search for them. If it doesn't work, it won't hurt anything.
jsp2000 02-03-05, 08:49 PM I tried this...I got some of my system's HD channels "in the clear" but most of the rest of the channels are scrambled.
Time Warner Cable in Memphis is pretty awful, though. I'll be switching to satellite as soon as the Super Bowl has passed.
Bookworm 02-03-05, 09:10 PM Originally posted by mahicks
JSP....do you currently have any cable service? If so, you might want to plug your cable cord into the digital antenna input. Depending on your cable provider, you may be able to receive DIGITAL cable channels that are "in the clear" i.e. non scrambled digital cable, these could include your locals in HD, music channels, etc. It's worth a try and only takes about 10 minutes for the TV to search for them. If it doesn't work, it won't hurt anything.
I did this and got about 50 channels, including all the networks, on TW here in Charlotte. They only downside was determining exactly which channel was which. The ids for each channel don't come through.
Does anyone with the 32" model and a *NEW* PS2 slimline system get progressive scan in DVD play back? I have the PS2 hooked up via component 2 on the TV with component cables, I enter the *DVD* set up menu with a DVD in the PS2 playing, but TV type is set to 4:3 and Progressive is set off. I can't switch them on because the options are grayed out. It does not make a difference if I have 4:3 or 16:9 set up in the PS2 system menu. I have read this whole thread and the one in the gaming, I'm thinking that this maybe a problem with the TV?
oryan_dunn 02-03-05, 11:28 PM No problem with the tv.
You need to put in a dvd, any will do, and begin playing the movie. Then durning the movie, stop playing, don't eject the disk, and then enter the setup menu. You should now see that the options are now selectable.
Originally posted by oryan_dunn
No problem with the tv.
You need to put in a dvd, any will do, and begin playing the movie. Then durning the movie, stop playing, don't eject the disk, and then enter the setup menu. You should now see that the options are now selectable.
I have done that several time, seems like a simple thing...but it stays grayed out. Do I need the remote? I'm doing this from the controller.
oryan_dunn 02-04-05, 02:22 AM I don't think so. I'd give sony a call 1-800-345-SONY i think. This is definlty a ps2 problem though. I've only got the original scph30000 unit, so that one may be different.
I took your advise and called Sony. When playing a DVD you need to press select, then select stop and click it *TWO* times. Now you can get to the menu and change the two modes that were grayed out before. The trick is to click twice not once like I was doing...I knew that, because I'm a mind reader and I'm suppose to know it since it's not in the manual...sheesh. Thanks for your help.
timmy1376 02-04-05, 05:37 PM Can anyone with this set that has Cox cable tell me how many channels they get with this TV? Which ones?
thanks!
I have read through the thread and it seems everyone seems to know a bit more than I do about things. This isn't my TV but my parents and I am pretty much lost with it. I thought I knew what to do.
Alright I am dealing with the 30 inch widescreen Sanyo, set it up and everything. I have Charter Digital Cable with the cable box (Motorola) and a Philips antenna to help catch the signal better for HDTV supposedly. Also a Philips DVP642 DVD player. Here is the problem. The stations look like garbage and I cannot get 16:9 from the DVD player even though I set the DVD player Video option to 16:9. I use no special cords just the cords that come with everything. Nothing special in audio or the like.
The TV will not accept the antenna everytime I tell it Yes to accept the antenna. The DVD player will not play the DVD's in 16:9 as well after I change the setup to 16:9 TV in the DVD player menu, perhaps this is easily solved. I cannot read any HDTV channels or anything. It is picking up on nothing. I am unsure what to do to figure this out after spending an abundance of hours trying to do so. If anyone could help me and my foolishness this would be appreciated. Thank you for any help.
bhenley 02-05-05, 09:31 AM Originally posted by waking
I use no special cords just the cords that come with everything. Nothing special in audio or the like.
As far as I recall, the TV didn't come with any cords so that makes it hard to guess how you have it connected. You need to describe the connections to get better suggestions. Is the Phillips antenna a pair of rabbit ears? If you go to http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/Address.aspx and enter your zip code (entering your address gets more specific results), it will display what antenna type you need for various channels in your area and about how far you are from the TV towers.
I'm assuming you have the Charter cable box connected to the TV's Video 1 inputs (red, white, and yellow RCA cables). Do they look OK?
You need a coax cable connected to both the analog and the digital antenna connections on the TV. You can take the Phillips antenna cable to a splitter and run both splitter outputs to the TV's antenna inputs (identifying them as OTA, not cable). You can do the same with the digital cable - run it through a splitter to feed both TV inputs, or you can run the antenna to either the analog/digital and feed the cable coax directly to the other one. Each time you need to scan for channels and make sure the TV knows that the analog connection is OTA/Cable. If the setup channel scan doesn't find something on both coax inputs, it will continue to question the cable connections. It sounds like that might be happening.
On page 48 of this thread (back on 1.2.2005), bhenley(and others) made reference to several different hook-up options. I've tried to make sense of this stuff, but I can't seem to put it all together.
I bought the 32" HD Sanyo today. I have Dish Network and Road Runner. I'm trying to make use of the built-in tuner and get channels clear QAM channels, while also using my sat feed. I can get my sat to work by itself, and I was able to hook up the TV so I could see all the freely availble channels from TWC - via my Road Runner subscription - but I can't seem to get both working at once.
It seems my satellite will work ONLY if I take the coax cable from the wall to the sat-in coax on the dish receiver. At that point, I can get satellite channels just fine on Input1 of the TV (using S-video and RCA audio connections). But then I can't successfully get the other channels (from TWC) to show on the TV.
If I take the coax cable from the wall and send it thru a 3 way splitter, then both the outputs to the two coax inputs on the TV, the TWC cable channels come up and I can scan and get the digital band channels just fine, as well. but when I add take the third out from the splitter to the Dish receiver, it (the receiver) can't get a signal to the satellite.
What gives? I've spent all afternoon messing with this and I can't get my setup the way I need it.
Help! Please!
So there's no information regarding vertical squeeze on the 32"?
oryan_dunn 02-06-05, 12:02 AM Originally posted by bkc98
On page 48 of this thread (back on 1.2.2005), bhenley(and others) made reference to several different hook-up options. I've tried to make sense of this stuff, but I can't seem to put it all together.
I bought the 32" HD Sanyo today. I have Dish Network and Road Runner. I'm trying to make use of the built-in tuner and get channels clear QAM channels, while also using my sat feed. I can get my sat to work by itself, and I was able to hook up the TV so I could see all the freely availble channels from TWC - via my Road Runner subscription - but I can't seem to get both working at once.
It seems my satellite will work ONLY if I take the coax cable from the wall to the sat-in coax on the dish receiver. At that point, I can get satellite channels just fine on Input1 of the TV (using S-video and RCA audio connections). But then I can't successfully get the other channels (from TWC) to show on the TV.
If I take the coax cable from the wall and send it thru a 3 way splitter, then both the outputs to the two coax inputs on the TV, the TWC cable channels come up and I can scan and get the digital band channels just fine, as well. but when I add take the third out from the splitter to the Dish receiver, it (the receiver) can't get a signal to the satellite.
What gives? I've spent all afternoon messing with this and I can't get my setup the way I need it.
Help! Please!
So you have both cable and satalite, and they both come through the same line? If thats the case, I have no clue how to help you. If you've got separate lines for both, just run the satalite line to the receiver, and then split the coax in two and sent those to the tv.
If you have both cable and satalite comming in on one line, how do they not interfere with each other?
oryan_dunn,
I have Dish Network and TWC Road Runner -- no pay cable services from TWC, just the internet access. So I'm looking to get the clearQAM channels that come through "for free". I can get them to work if I take the coax from the wall, split it, and connect the two outs to the two inputs on the TV. I can get the satellite feed to work if I take the coax from the wall and go directly to the Dish receiver sat-in. But then there's no way to hook up the two TV inputs to get the clear QAM channels at that point (that I know of).
thanks,
/bc
oryan_dunn 02-06-05, 12:29 AM I don't understand how that would even work. You should ahve two separate lines, one from the cable company for your internet, and one comming down from your satalite. If its not like this, then i'm not sure how you'd get it to work as it is a really weird setup.
If you only put it into the tv, do you get any HD channels? or any digital channels at all?
Yeah, leaving the satellite out of the mix, I can just take the coax from the wall, split it, and take the splitter "outs" to the TV inputs and I get the freely available cable channels (both regular and digital).
So, normally you would have two lines coming from the wall? I.e. one for internet and a separate one for satellite?
Anyone? Anyone? I'm not sure what to think now.
thanks,
/bc
oryan_dunn 02-06-05, 01:11 AM Yeah, you should have a line from the dish that would go directly to your dish receiver. If it works being split and sent to the tv's inputs, but doesn't work when split and sent to the tvs inputs along with the satalite, thats weird. I'd follow the coax from the wall and see where it leads. They may have some sort of weird combiner that combines the satalite signal onto of the coax, but i doubt they woudl do that. Is this the same coax that goes to your cable modem? If so, that confuses it even more, becuase cable interent usually needs a really clean signal and bidirectional communication, which a device to combine cable and sat into one line would proablaby screw up. I'd also follow the line from the satalite into your house to see what kind of equipment that terminates at. Do the same for the cable coax.
I still have a hard time believing that you can put sat and cable on the same line. If others here have any knowledge of how this is possible, please speak up.
bhenley 02-06-05, 02:05 AM You can have both the satellite feed and the cable signal (or OTA antenna) on the same coax because they are very different frequencies. Cable (/OTA) is below 950 MHz and the sat frequencies are 950-1450 MHz (up to 2GHz if using DISHPro LNBs). To get both on (and off) the same cable, you have to use a PAIR of diplexers (also diplexors). You would have to have one "outside" to combine the cable and sat signal and use a 2nd inside to separate the two frequencies back apart. The dipliexor will be clearly labeled as to which connection is used for the satellite because that will pass a DC voltage to the LNB. The other leg is the 950MHz and below and doesn't pass DC. Here's a link to a picture of a diplexor - http://www.askacom.com/pdf%20files/Page%2035.pdf
Here's just a picture - http://www.buy.com/retail/large_image.asp?sku=90111960
If you follow the sat cable, it should take you to something like that that also attaches to the TWC cable and then comes into the house. You need a 2nd diplexor on the inside that connects to the ant/sat (cable/sat in your case) connection on the above image and then connects the Sat site to the DISH receiver and the ant connection would go to the 3 way splitter that feeds both Sanyo ant/cable inputs.
Not proof-read but should be OK.
Edit afterthought: If you are taking the TWC to the ANT in connection on a HD DISH receiver (811, 921, 6000), you don't need a diplexor. They are only needed to combine the low frequency Cable/OTA with the high frequency satellite LNB signal. You said it went to SAT-in on the receiver, which would indicate you need to use a diplexor to seperate them back into cable and sat signal.
bhenley 02-06-05, 09:40 AM It would be best if you could display an overscan test pattern to first verify the basic geometry of the unit. You seem to describe a picture that looks like )_(, but vertically - like a plate at the top and an upside down plate at the bottom?? If you have Video Essentials or any other calibration tool, you should be able to display something like http://www.videoessentials.com/images/720overscan.jpg to see how "square" the unit is. There are Service Menu entries you can change to effect the top and bottom, just in the center or in the corners. You shouldn't mess with the SM at all unless you write down the original value for everything you may change (even inadvertently). Unless you have a DVD player that can display 720p or 1080i, you'll need to get adjustments specific to those from some source that does provide that format. When a broadcaster is supplying a 4:3 source at 720p or 1080i, it will be up to the station to center the 4:3 image and that is out of your control. It COULD be that all of your 720p content is off to the left some and all your 1080i is off to the right some. If that were the case, you can again experiment with SM changes. When you are watching something in 720p that isn't 4:3, it is hard to tell if it is centered without something to "measure".
martin1 02-06-05, 10:18 AM Originally posted by bkc98
Yeah, leaving the satellite out of the mix, I can just take the coax from the wall, split it, and take the splitter "outs" to the TV inputs and I get the freely available cable channels (both regular and digital).
So, normally you would have two lines coming from the wall? I.e. one for internet and a separate one for satellite?
Anyone? Anyone? I'm not sure what to think now.
thanks,
/bc
I pm you before I read this. It puts a different light on the subject. Are you sure you are getting cable channels or ota channels. If you are getting them on channels 82 and above then they are your cable DT channels but if you are getting them on 24-1,36-1 etc then you are getting them via ota.
Whatever they are ota or cable channels you will need a diplexer to split the signal not a regular splitter.
FWIW...
I just bought an HT30744. The manual that comes with the TV no longer describes how to search for digital cable (QAM). BUT, the manual online (www.sanyo.com/entertainment) still has the correct procedure/instructions.
Threw me for a loop... but the QAM tuner does still work. Just not noted at all in the 'new' manual. Just so you're aware...
I wonder if they intend to 'disable' this feature?
mahicks 02-06-05, 02:56 PM Originally posted by Stygian
hi guys, I have had the ht32744 for a few weeks now and am overall pleased with the unit but I do have one possible issue.
I have noticed that with content that does not fill the screen vertically (dvd movies and ota digital broadcasts) the top edge of my tv's picture is about 3-4 millimeters lower in the middle of the of the top edge than on the left and right sides. Is this the normal ? I measured with a yardstick to confirm and the middle of the top edge is definitely about 3-4 mm lower than the the and right top edges.
Also with ota digital broadcasts that dont fill the whole screen horizontaly
on some channels the picture is centered perfecly while on others the picture is off to the left or right. Is this the tv or the stations broadcast ?
Should I return the unit ?
Every thing else about the unit is great so far.
Thanks
Stygian, The uneveness you describe is an issue that affects most, if not all of the 32" models. I have not read from anyone on here or anywhere else that this has been corrected through the user menu OR the service menu. I know some people have had luck minimizing the problem with the service menu. I read somewhere on this thread the only way to correct the problem is through yoke and coil adjustment by a tech. I haven't read of anyone being able to get this done. Other than that, the problem is annoying but doesn't pose a threat to your TV. You can try to return it, but I'd almost guarantee you'd get another one with the exact same problem. Someone also suggested that this has to do with the earths electromagnetic pull. Sounds far fetched, but it makes ALOT of since. Especially when there have been a very SMALL FEW on here that say they don't have this problem.
Hope this helps.
Michael
Stygian, The uneveness you describe is an issue that affects most, if not all of the 32" models. Does this mean the 30" model doesn't have this problem? I had decided on the 32 but this is enough to force me to buy the 30".
Launchpad 02-06-05, 08:51 PM I've been reading through this thread for the last few weeks and I have decided to purchase the 30". I really appreciate the wealth of knowledge you guys have to offer and I will add my own experience soon. I'll be hooking it up to a Sony DVP-NS300 DVD player, a SD DirecTV system, an XBOX, a gamecube, and a basic Tivo unit. I'll be picking it up some time this week.
Thanks for all the info and keep it coming,
Mark
oryan_dunn 02-06-05, 09:35 PM Originally posted by mahicks
Someone also suggested that this has to do with the earths electromagnetic pull. Sounds far fetched, but it makes ALOT of since.
Here's one link describing this. I have a more in depth link, but I can't find it. I'll have to go through my old bookmark backups to find it. It describes precisely why the magnetic field affects the picture.
http://myweb.accessus.net/~090/how2adj.html#3.4a
Edit:
here's another one that touches on it:
http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/tvfaq.htm#tvtiltpic
On another note, these guides are great resources for CRT TVs in general.
Also, as mahicks noted, this may also be why a few people don't see this, as they have the set oriented as it was when it was manufactured.
Another symptom of the magnetic field can be seen as misaligned colors. The earths magnetic field affects the travel of the electron as it travels from the gun to the shadow mask, forcing it to strike a different color phospor than what was intended. Degaussing a tv will fix this problem.
http://www.eizo.com/support/faqs/crt/qa11.asp
Here is a more detailed scientific explanation:
http://www.eio.com/repairfaq/REPAIR/F_crtfaq.html#CRTFAQ_020
https://www.lgsuperseller.com/support/glossary.html
bhenley,
That's it! A diplexer! That should do the trick! I've really learned something from your post. Interesting stuff. I was beginning to think that a maverick satellite install technician sabotaged me 4 years ago when I first got Dish Network.
This evening was my first experience with HiDef. That picture is too nice! Now my satellite images are *really* going to look crummy when get that hooked up. I guess most SD satellite images on an HD set are less than perfect (I've seen this comment on many threads at this site). I have not been too impressed the past 24 hours with Dish Network on the video1 (s-video) input.
BTW, my wife has been quite, um, let's call it frustrated, this weekend b/c I've had a heck of a time getting this set working correctly. But today after church I scanned the digital band for channels and when that smooth HiDef image flashed on the screen, she was hooked. She said 'I want that. Do what it takes to make it work right! (i.e. work out this splitter/diplexer issue)'. What a woman. She's never enjoyed football so much as this evening. Too cool.
Thanks for all the help on this forum! I *really* appreciate it!
I'll post back tomorrow when I get the diplexer hooked up correctly. Hopefully that will end this saga.
Thanks, again!
/bc
Quick update on my issue from the weekend --
Adding the diplexer made everything work okay (thank you, bhenley). I now get Satellite channels on one input as well as "in the clear" digital locals just fine by feeding the signal to the built-in QAM tuner on the Sanyo 32" HD set. I'm happy.
The unencrypted digital local channels look *much* better than the locals over Dish Network (I never knew how poor that analog image was for the local channels via Satellite feed until I went from 27" to 32" TV). It's quite a bit more grainy now. Guess I can cancel the Dish local (~$5/mo) channels and just watch the clear digital feeds (in Zoom mode - still a better image than sat) instead. That will help to offset the $3/mo increase(!) in Dish programming.
FYI - I see the slight bow in the top/middle edge of the picture on this set, but it's not that annoying, and it appears that it can't really be fixed anyways (from posts in this thread). It's not enough to take this set back, and definitely not enough to make me want to spend ~$300 more to upgrade to the Sony 32" HS model (a rough equivalent of this set that I would consider an alternative).
One other thing - anyone use the Sanyo remote to control their Dish receiver (I have a 4 year old 4900 dish pro receiver)? I got the code to work (432), and it seems to work okay except for the Exit button (kind of important if you want to clear the channel info/schedule heads up from the screen), the Info button (we use it often), and the menu button (no biggie). Recommendations?
Thanks for all the info/help the past few days!
/bc
Chancellor Todd 02-08-05, 09:29 PM Funny how the topic has changed to getting multiple signals into one input, as that's what I cam here to ask about.
A friend has this TV and we've discovered the following: Plugging a rabbit ears into the digital tuner yields an assortment of local HDTV channels. He also subscribes to analog cable and when that's plugged into the digital tuner, he gets an assortment of HD channels and music channels, but no locals. Thus, we need to get both the cable and the OTA stuff into one input. Now from the above discussion it would seem it's possible with satellite and OTA antenna, but is a combination possible with cable and antenna?
Thanks for your attention,
Todd
oryan_dunn 02-08-05, 09:40 PM I don't think that this is possible because they use the same frequency band. I thought satalite used the same frequency band, but bhenley explained otherwise. To do what you want to do, you'll have to have the antenna and cable run into an a/b switch that you'll have to throw, then you'll have to change the tuner setting in the tv's menu. Another way is to buy a separate ota tuner for the local digitals, but that of course costs more. Another option is an lg 3510, if you need a dvd player, this serves as both an upconverting dvd player and a tuner. This way, you don't need to change settings all the time.
mahicks 02-08-05, 11:52 PM As far as sharing the input with cable and OTA...Your mileage may vary. I had good luck in theory doing it with a splitter backwards. The only problem is, I don't get anything but CRAP sent from my cable provider unscrambled. Ryan is correct, the OTA channel you want and the cable channel you want may be in the same frequency area and cause problems. I would suggest trying to join the two with a simple 2 way splitter connected backwards. If it works, GREAT, if it doesn't, come back here and we can give you some more suggestions.
CSNHottie 02-09-05, 12:07 AM So if I were to buy this set, subscribe to Comcast's lowest cable package, and plug it into the digital tuner I would be able to pick up some local HD channels?
oryan_dunn 02-09-05, 12:24 AM Depends on your local comcast setup. Some do, some don't. You'd just have to try. It seems that HD locals over clear QAM are more the norm than the exception these days, but there's still no guarantee.
Shufflefield 02-09-05, 09:01 AM Originally posted by CSNHottie
So if I were to buy this set, subscribe to Comcast's lowest cable package, and plug it into the digital tuner I would be able to pick up some local HD channels?
Probably not, because there lowest cable package is probably analog. I think you need to at least subscribe to their digital service. And as the poster above me stated, it's still no guarantee (although highly likely). Personally I didn't like not having the on screen menu available so I sprung for the box.
bhenley 02-09-05, 09:39 AM bkc98 - it certainly doesn't sound like you have a DISH DVR to record the locals if you are even considering dropping the locals for the $5/month. I no longer have a sat receiver on my account that ISN'T a DVR and really encourage you to try one. No announced price but supposedly this month, DISH will release and rent their new 942 dual tuner HD DVR to existing customers. I'd really like to be able to record the HD material. I won't ever be able to get cable at this house but Comcast (Sacramento) started making their dual tuner HD DVR available in January at a low monthly cost.
When the DISH price increase was announced in January, I switched to annual payment which saves one month's payment and locks the price at the old value. It only puts off the increase until next year but it only cost $275 (11 * $25) for a year's worth of AT60. Locals don't have a prepay and save a month like the packages though.
I don't use the Sanyo remote for the DISH receiver, but since the menu button only does the program guide (and there is a guide button they could have used), you can "exit" by hitting enter on the current channel at the current time. A Cancel function on the Exit button would help but I'm spoiled by the sat supplied remote working with UHF where you don't have to point at anything (or be in the same room as the receiver).
I see some bow on certain picture resolutions and settings. The more noticable were adjusted out w/ service menu. Others, I never tried to work on since it didn't make much difference. For tilt, there isn't much I could do, even if there were a tilt adjustment in the menus. My 32744 sits on a lazy susan and faces between north to the sofa or west to the kitchen, depending on where people are located. As the direction if faces changes, the top left corner will drop or raise by a little more than one of the little holes on the side of the screen. Even $300 more wouldn't help me with the magnetic changes from having the TV face different directions.
DJTommyR 02-09-05, 09:43 AM I can only speak for Jacksonville, FL, Comcast subscribers, but I have their lowest-priced pacakge (was $9 after texes, now $11). On the digital side (plugging the cable into the DTV tuner) I get Fine Living, DIY, INHD 1 and 2, and the local ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, and PBS. Lately the NFL Network and NBA League Pass have popped up. I also get about 10 Music Choice channels--music I could care less about, of course.
Add that to the small assortment of analog locals, WGN, Weatherscan, OLN, and FX...and it's a pretty good deal.
No guarantess in your market, of course.
bhenley 02-09-05, 09:49 AM Todd, check to see what the local cable company provides in HD with a subscription. Some still don't yet provide locals in HD with a subscription. Most do and you could get a HD digital STB and watch you local HD and whatever might be available encrypted on Video or Component connections and still get whatever they inadvertently provide on clear QAM by connecting to the digital TV in as well as the STB in. Long term, you'd save money buying a separate OTA digital tuner as long as the cable company continues to provide what you want in clear QAM but you don't know how long that will be.
Greetings,
I have the 32" Sanyo hooked up to a cheap Koss HT from BB via optical audio cable. Sound quality is great, but lip sync is really annoying when the Koss is decoding Dolby 5.1 from all the OTA HD channels. There's no problem with lip sync if I only use the Sanyo's speakers, but then I am missing out on the Dolby 5.1 surround.
The Koss HT does fine when playing DVDs----Dolby 5.1 sound is fine (no lip sync problem) and component video/progressive scan into the Sanyo looks great.
Has anyone else hooked the Sanyo into their HT using the optical/digital audio output? I've tried exchanging the Koss for another one at BB and still have the lip sync issue.
TIA for any help/suggestions!
bhenley 02-09-05, 03:40 PM Originally posted by morrow
Greetings,
Has anyone else hooked the Sanyo into their HT using the optical/digital audio output? I've tried exchanging the Koss for another one at BB and still have the lip sync issue.
The TOSlink digital audio on the Sanyo is connected to my JVC AV receiver and I don't notice any difference in the audio from the AV speakers and the TV speakers. If you play audio on both, do you hear an echo (presumably the Sanyo speakers lead the HT due to decoding the digital audio)? I do see lip sync issues with various OTA digital broadcasts but they seem to be content specific and the TV speakers and digital audio are consistent with each other. Have you attempted to fiddle through the various DSP modes and surround sound choices on the HT receiver? If there is a Line Direct choice, does that eliminate the echo (assumes one exists)?
Edit: I don't notice a TIME difference between TV speakers and AV speakers with OTA HD channels. There is clearly a difference in audio quality.
So, is there or isnt there a way to fix this tilt problem? On certain ota channels that dont fill the whole screen, theres like this blue wiggly line on the top right hand side of the tv. Like the screen is tilted down or something on the right hand side where if the pic isnt full screen, you can tell the top of the picture isnt leveled. On a full screen picture, you cant really notice it, but i know its there lol. No one else would see it, but since i no its their i tend to stair at it. I dont know what to do, i still have like 2 months left to return for a refund. But this problem is really the only think i dislike about the tv, plus its 132 lbs. If all the sanyos are doing this, then maybe i''ll just keep it. If not, i dont know what im gonna do, maybe wait for a new sanyo model to come out first if ever, before i think of taking it back under the warranty.
Originally posted by bhenley
If you play audio on both, do you hear an echo (presumably the Sanyo speakers lead the HT due to decoding the digital audio)?
Yes, there's an echo...the Sanyo's speakers lead the HT speakers by about 1 second. If I de-select dolby decoding on the HT or use analog audio from the Sanyo, then there is only a very slight echo. I fiddled with all the HT settings including the speaker "distance" setting, but there was no discernable effect on the echo. It's time for me to return the HT to BB and spend a bit more $$ to get one that works. Thanks much for confirming that the Sanyo is working fine!
Launchpad 02-10-05, 10:58 AM Check out the Sherwood RD6500 at circuit city. I just picked one up last week and it does dolby digital 5.1. The sound quality is fantastic and it's cheap - I'm pretty sure you have to order it online, but you can pick it up in the store. The only drawback is some people say it's hard to set up. It only took me about 30 minutes.
It's just the receiver. If you need speakers too, you'll have to spend a bit more.
Johnfish 02-10-05, 02:01 PM Hello All,
Ive been lurking for a while and this is my first post.
I picked up the 32" model last night and wanted to give my first impressions.
I had to search several wally worlds before I found one. This unit was fresh off the truck so it probably has been recently manufactured. I guess Sanyo has been listening to everyones comments because I didnt find one thing wrong with the set. No geometry issues, no snow on the component inputs and the color looked great out of the box. Also the TV came with a dvd. unfortunately it was not a setup disk like DVE. Just a guide on how to setup the TV and connect other components to it.
All I can say is WOW!! The picture looks great!! Even the analog looks better than my 10 year old sony. Although once I set up the DVD and experienced progressive scan i dont know how I can ever go back to analog.
I also connected the playstation 2 via Svideo and it looks great. My son has been playing MGS snake eater and the picture is awesome.
Tonight I will pick up an antenna and an HD pack for the xbox. Can wait to see the results.
Thanks for all the great info and helping me to find this set.
John
bhenley 02-10-05, 03:00 PM Originally posted by Paniro
So, is there or isnt there a way to fix this tilt problem? On certain ota channels that dont fill the whole screen, theres like this blue wiggly line on the top right hand side of the tv. Like the screen is tilted down or something on the right hand side where if the pic isnt full screen, you can tell the top of the picture isnt leveled.
There isn't a single "tilt" problem - there are various geometry problems. Not just on Sanyos, but there are things that are common to many Sanyos. What you call tilt probably isn't the same thing that a certified tech (not me) would call tilt. Some things can be adjusted in the service menu, some things can't. Try to identify the OTA channels that display the wiggle by pressing the Info button. Do they all show 720(60p) or 1080(60i)? If just one or the other, does EVERY OTA that shows the same info give you the wiggle, or just the ones that do/don't fill the screen width in letterbox? If you select something (not OTA) on video inputs, you can display it in normal or letterbox with the Pic Shape button. When that is letterbox, does the same thing happen on the right side?
I don't want to encourage anyone to go into the service menu but there are certainly things you can try to improve the geometry of the set. You'll never get things perfect so you may spend time writing down all the values (a must in my mind) w/o significant improvement of some geometry issues. It will depend on how irritating it is and how much time you want to spend TRYING to improve things.
I'm assuming you have a 32", not a 30" so mention if that is a bad assumption.
Launchpad 02-10-05, 03:44 PM The 30" is available online again and it looks like they just got more in at my local store.
dannheisser 02-10-05, 10:28 PM Can someone point me to the best available review, in or out of this forum?
markus99 02-11-05, 02:13 AM Post your results when you get the xbox hd pack.
And make sure you keep the receipt and packaging reasonably intact.
I have recently picked up the 30" WS version of the Sanyo. I have had nothing but poor quality results with the xbox hd pack, using it for DVD playback.
Green bars as most with xbox's have experienced in this thread. It doesn't seem as though anyone has found a solution for this yet.
I unhooked the HD pack and use the s-video connection.
Originally posted by Johnfish
Hello All,
Ive been lurking for a while and this is my first post.
I picked up the 32" model last night and wanted to give my first impressions.
I had to search several wally worlds before I found one. This unit was fresh off the truck so it probably has been recently manufactured. I guess Sanyo has been listening to everyones comments because I didnt find one thing wrong with the set. No geometry issues, no snow on the component inputs and the color looked great out of the box. Also the TV came with a dvd. unfortunately it was not a setup disk like DVE. Just a guide on how to setup the TV and connect other components to it.
All I can say is WOW!! The picture looks great!! Even the analog looks better than my 10 year old sony. Although once I set up the DVD and experienced progressive scan i dont know how I can ever go back to analog.
I also connected the playstation 2 via Svideo and it looks great. My son has been playing MGS snake eater and the picture is awesome.
Tonight I will pick up an antenna and an HD pack for the xbox. Can wait to see the results.
Thanks for all the great info and helping me to find this set.
John
ucdcrush 02-11-05, 10:47 AM I have the 32" inch sanyo, with an optical cable going to an RCA 2360 audio/video receiver with dolby digital, dts, prologic. This allows for surround sound with dolby digital on some programs.
The problem I'm having is that sometimes, on some channels -- seems kind of random so far -- when I tune a station with the sanyo's HD tuner, my receiver defaults to "pro logic". I can then press a button on the receiver's remote and switch between available sound modes, one of which is dolby digital and sounds the best. On certain broadcasts like football, this is never a problem - it always ends up on dolby digital surround.
I am beginning to wonder if it's an issue with my receiver (which seems to default to the highest quality sound program, dolby digital, MOST of the time), or if the TV is not outputting the right signal for my receiver to know what audio programs are available. When I change channels with the built in HD tuner, they all seem to say "dolby digital" on the television, so I'm not sure where the issue is.
Anyone else have this problem? If not, what receivers are you guys running?
Aaron Davis 02-12-05, 12:48 PM Some HD programs are 2-channel Dolby Digital. Therefore, your receiver kicks in the make it surround using Pro Logic. This is perfectly normal, I also have an RCA 2360 for my bedroom.
Originally posted by Johnfish
...This unit was fresh off the truck so it probably has been recently manufactured. I guess Sanyo has been listening to everyones comments because I didnt find one thing wrong with the set. No geometry issues, no snow on the component inputs and the color looked great out of the box.
John
You can actually find out the manufacture date as its printed on the sticker that is on the back of the set.
I too just recently purchased a 32" set but even though my local wally world just got another shipment in, my set was manufactured in June 2004.
Originally posted by Yus
So there's no information regarding vertical squeeze on the 32"?
You need to use the pix shape button on the remote and change it to letterbox, by doing this the TV is using the verticle squeeze.
Launchpad 02-13-05, 12:17 PM I have purchased my 30" set and I have some initial impressions.
First of all, I hooked it up to an OTA antenna just for kicks. Where I live they say noone can pick up HD channels (My cell phone doesn't even work down here). But, when I did the scan it picked up one channel and I was blown away by the picture quality. Everything looked fantastic out of the box, no color adjustments yet.
I hooked up my SD directv receiver and as expected the PQ was pretty shabby, but still looked much better than my old TV. On 4:3 the sides of the picture do some wierd stuff depending on the colors currently being displayed. I think this is to be expected and would probably happen on any standard TV if you could see the edges of the picture. I switched over to full screen and I like this better because I can't see the edges, I can live with everything being stretched horizontally a little.
I hooked up the DVD player and once I had the DVD player configured for widescreen, the picture was fantastic on the full setting.
Zoom 1 is a little off center but this can probably be fixed in the service menu and zoom 2 I haven't really tried out yet.
I cannot comment on the speakers as I have a Home Theater hooked up, however on the HD channel I am using the optical out on the tv into the home theater and I have not had any lip sinc problems.
I do have a question:
My SD directV receiver has a feature in the menu to change the output from 4:3 to 16:9, but when I change this setting, it does not make any difference in the picture. Has anyone else experienced this?
CntryGirlMeg 02-14-05, 12:13 AM Hi,
I'm new to the board as you've probably noticed lol I have read this thread and I decided last week that I was going to get a Sanyo 30" Widescreen. Yesterday, I bought the widescreen. I brought it home, father and brother had to carry it. Im 20, and the thing weighs as much as I do LOL. We hooked everything up, the picture is great, I was really pleased with it. However, this morning I proceeded to turn on the TV to watch it while I got ready for church. Low and behold there was absolutely NO picture on the TV. I could hear the voices, but could not see any picture whatsoever. I tried to reset the tv, and the menu would not even come up. We took it back to Walmart's and low and behold that was the last TV they had. Finally after calling five stores they found a store that had one. My questions are, what could cause this? I didn't mess with any settings (service menu). Is this common in HDTV's? I am almost scared to turn this new TV off now. Thanks for the help in advance :-)
Megan
Chancellor Todd 02-14-05, 10:43 AM OK, bad news on all fronts:
We tried the simple combining of the antenna and cable feeds, and it didn't work. I wasn't really expecting it to, so no big disappointment there.
However, we are using the x-box as the DVD player, and we encountered the old green bar problem.
Are there reports of people with this TV and x-boxes NOT having this problem? Or is it just that the two don't get along?
bhenley 02-14-05, 12:22 PM Originally posted by Chancellor Todd
OK, bad news on all fronts:
We tried the simple combining of the antenna and cable feeds, and it didn't work. I wasn't really expecting it to, so no big disappointment there.
However, we are using the x-box as the DVD player, and we encountered the old green bar problem.
Are there reports of people with this TV and x-boxes NOT having this problem? Or is it just that the two don't get along?
Combining Cable and OTA will never work as a general solution since they use the same frequencies. You can inject a specific channel using a channel 3 (or 4) combiner that blocks out the channel 3 from the cable signal and adds JUST channel 3 from another source. There are also agile modulators to do the same thing for UHF channels. If there are gaps in either cable/OTA, you will have better luck combining those specific frequencies.
I don't have an XBox but there are plenty of people that have no problems playing DVDs. I don't remember if they were in this thread or the original one but several people mentioned the XBox/MSft HD pack/ dash board VERSION was significant. You'd need to search to find the exact info, but posts in this thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4847875#post4847875
1. I am using a chipped xbox, and had NO problems. I am connected via the HD pack, over a pair of CHEAP component cables, and have noticed no real issues. 480p, 720p and 1080i games all look decent. No green lines in DVD playback at all, and the modded dash board DOES seem to pick up the settings used in the default M$ dash. The only thing I did notice was that the xbox as a dvd player doesnt seem to handle the "blackest blacks" (ie- no drop shadow in the THX setup screens).
Just reading that, it might be that it was the version of the dash board or Msft HD kit that mattered.
Here's another:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4444206#post4444206
You know, I wonder what version Xbox you have. From what I remember, the video output chip changed somewhere around version 1.4 or 1.5. I have a 1.1 xbox and with the monster component cables. I have yet to see any weird behaviour with colors, etc. I've played 2 games(both HD, dunno if that would matter) and watched a bunch of avi's and mpg's via XBMC.
When you play a DVD and get green lines, when you hit Info on the remote, does is indicate 480(60P) or 480(60I)?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4408448#post4408448
I have the slight shift to the left on the screen, I don't have the green line issue which people don't seem to understand when using the xbox. The reason they get green lines during dvds on the xbox is because the dash and the dvd player aren't progressive. You can upgrade the dash to progressive, but the dvd player remains interlaced. My problem is a different one, I see a yellow spot on the right of the screen if there's a light scene on the screen, and eventually a blue spot on the left.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4294029#post4294029
The TV definitely does not like the Xbox being used as a DVD player with those component cables though. I get those vertical green lines, which are easily fixed when I switch over to my S-Video cables. I'm using both of the official M$ cables, though... for both the component and the S-Video. I think I read throughout the old thread that if you mod your Xbox to handle progressive scan the vertical bars go away, but the quality isn't worth getting excited over.
Again, I don't have an XBox but I've read many posts from people that don't have the problem but it "sounds" like it is people using the component cables where their XBox still supplies 480i when playing DVDs. If you use SVideo for the 480i or mod the XBox to really do 480p, people have "cured" the green lines. It is a long read but you might search the original thread for XBox for more ideas.
CntryGirlMeg 02-14-05, 01:23 PM For what its worth, I own an Xbox and last night my brother hooked it up and he played NBA2k3 on it and it looked stunning. I did try a dvd and there were no green lines what so ever. I am using the hd box and component hookups.
Chancellor Todd 02-14-05, 04:00 PM Thanks for those tips, bhenley. It will be Friday before I get to fiddle with it again. But it was my understanding that the xbox could only output 480i for DVDs? What do you need to do to it to get it to output DVDs in 480p?
bhenley 02-14-05, 04:54 PM Some XBox users will pass through by Friday to answer your question. I can only summarize what I THINK I've read the past few months. The early and most recent versions may not have any problems at all. Could be XBox or HD Pack versions, dunno. The "middle versions" display green on component when displaying 480i. An Svideo cable may be all that is required to get rid of the green. I remember something about not downloading the stardard Msft version of something. Not having an XBox, I paid little attention.
Google shows something that MIGHT help, dunno:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10166-5503844-1.html
I can't tell you anything about a "mod chip", but Google might. SVideo might be much easier.
CSNHottie 02-14-05, 07:45 PM Hmm, I emailed Sanyo about possible price drops (probably unlikely but oh well), and this is the answer they gave me:
We do not have any info on price drops, you are correct that info is "secret". I do admire you though for asking, if you dont ask how would you know?Please watch Walmart closely new models will come out soon.
Anyone have any info about possible new models? I was about to buy one of these two in a couple of months, now I am wondering if I should wait longer
oryan_dunn 02-14-05, 08:00 PM If the Sanyo rep was correct, and based on past patterns, expect the new Sanyo's in late April, early May.
Ryan
Launchpad 02-14-05, 11:17 PM Here's an update on my experience:
I corrected the centering issue on the DVD player. I went into the service menu and adjusted the 480i horizontal position and now it is perfect. I just ordered the gamecube component cables and a CM7777 preamp for the OTA signal. I should have them by the end of the week. I will also be hooking up the xbox later this week.
So far, I am very pleased with the quality of my set. I have had no geometry issues and DVDs(480i through the component input), HD through the tuner, and even SD Directv (most of the time) all look great. The SD directv really just depends on the channel, some look much better than others. I cannot wait to upgrade to a digital satellite system this fall.
mahicks 02-14-05, 11:40 PM The $647 price is a ROLLBACK item and is eligible for an associate discount.
Launchpad 02-15-05, 12:26 AM mahicks, sent you a pm
I'm looking at getting this TV along w/ a Panasonic S97 DVD Player and had a question.
Assuming I will always have my Denon 3802 on when watching a DVD, what would be the ideal way to connect all 3 units (TV, DVD, and Receiver)?
I will be using HDMI from the Panny to the TV, and understand that HDMI carries both the video and audio. So the question is which is the best way to get the audio to the Denon receiver? Should I turn off the audio through HDMI (there is an option for this on the Panny) and run an optical/coax from the Panny to the Denon? Or should I run an optical from the "digital out" on the Sanyo to the Denon? Is there an advantage to either option?
Thanks!
Amigo-2k 02-15-05, 12:57 PM Or should I run an optical from the "digital out" on the Sanyo to the Denon?
ypu can't do this. the sanyo optical out is only hooked up to HD tunner
Johnfish 02-15-05, 09:29 PM For those interested The 32" unit I just bought does not support QAM. It was manufactured in January 2005. When you go to channel search with the tuner set to digital in there is no option for digital cable search. And there is no mention of the digital cable search in the manual.
Comcast in my area does not supply the OTA channels unless you pay for digital cable and they arn't getting anoth 20 dollars a month from me for it. So I guess it doesnt make a whole lot of difference to me. I am going to email Sanyo about it though.
I will update when I get a response.
John
Originally posted by Ratman
FWIW...
I just bought an HT30744. The manual that comes with the TV no longer describes how to search for digital cable (QAM). BUT, the manual online still has the correct procedure/instructions.
Threw me for a loop... but the QAM tuner does still work. Just not noted at all in the 'new' manual. Just so you're aware...
I wonder if they intend to 'disable' this feature?
Johnfish,
Do the instructions above work or is it completely gone from the menu?
Johnfish 02-16-05, 07:35 AM Unfortunately the option is completely gone from the on screen menu. I tried using the procedure from the online manual with no success. I have emailed sanyo and asked if there is a way to re-enable. I will post when I get a reply.
John
I 'm just trying to get an update on the DVI->HDMI freezing problem when using the LGDV7832NXC (Zenith 318) and a Sanyo HT30744 HDTV.
Is there a way to get DVI->HDMI working? I have a DVI->HDMI Monster converter and when plugged in, the DVD player freezes at Hello. (common
problem I know)
I have a February 2004 build version of the LGDV7832NXC (Zenith 318).
BTW I do have Component upconversion without changing the firmware if that says anything about the firmware version.
I have posted in the Zenith 318 thread and the conclusion was that DVI->HDMI will NOT work with this TV and DVD player. Can anyone confirm that they have this working... and if so, what build version of the Zenith? what cables/adapters? any special settings?
Also, anyone know how to fix sound balancing for this TV? I'm not sure what is causing the issue, but the voices seem drowned out compared to the music and sound effects.
And one other quick question, does this TV have separate memory settings for each input? ie: once calibrated through DVE for Component, I can then hook up my DVD through Composite and calibrate for that input without the Component settings changing?
wdowell84 02-16-05, 01:53 PM I just found this site yesterday after seeing the Sanyo ht30744 at walmart the other day. The tv looks awesome and everything but I just have a couple of questions and I'm entirely new to HD. The main reason I'm getting this tv is sports, movies, and video games. I only have a gamecube right now, and was wondering how the games look on the tv. I will be getting component cables through Nintendo later on. Also I've seen that most games are in 4:3, how will they look on this tv? And finally I read that there are two component inputs, does one of the inputs have to be used for digital cable? (Insight Com) What I really wanted to do was to have my dvd player and gamecube set up through the component inputs, because switching them all the time would be a pain.
Thanks for all the help so far.
Launchpad 02-16-05, 02:10 PM Originally posted by wdowell84
I just found this site yesterday after seeing the Sanyo ht30744 at walmart the other day. The tv looks awesome and everything but I just have a couple of questions and I'm entirely new to HD. The main reason I'm getting this tv is sports, movies, and video games. I only have a gamecube right now, and was wondering how the games look on the tv. I will be getting component cables through Nintendo later on. Also I've seen that most games are in 4:3, how will they look on this tv? And finally I read that there are two component inputs, does one of the inputs have to be used for digital cable? (Insight Com) What I really wanted to do was to have my dvd player and gamecube set up through the component inputs, because switching them all the time would be a pain.
Thanks for all the help so far.
Video games look awesome through the component input. You need to check the back of your gamecube to make sure it supports a digital video signal. Nintendo stopped installing a digital output on gamecubes in 2004 and the newer ones cannot be connected this way. There will be a port that says "digital video out" or something like that IN ADDITION to the standard audio/video out port. As far as the games in 4:3, you can either play them in 4:3 on the TV or in widescreen, but they will look stretched out. It's just a matter of your preference.
If you want to hook up more than two sources to the component inputs, you can get a HDTV system selecter. I have not used one, but they allow you to switch between several systems by pushing a button. If you add more game systems on later, this would make things a lot easier. I'm going to be getting one later this week and I will let you know what I think.
wdowell84 02-16-05, 02:18 PM yeah I've had my gamecube forever, so it does have the digital out and thanks for the heads up on the HDTV system selector, I've never heard of that before, that's a great idea as long as it's not too expensive and the quality doesn't go down. So if I play the games in 4:3 on the TV it won't fill the whole screen right? I can't wait to play Resident Evil 4 on that tv.
bhenley 02-16-05, 06:36 PM Originally posted by wdowell84
So if I play the games in 4:3 on the TV it won't fill the whole screen right? I can't wait to play Resident Evil 4 on that tv.
The more 4:3 games (or Standard Definition TV) displayed, the more appealing the HT32744 is. It is $50 more than the HT30744 but go to
http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi and compare a 32" 4:3 set and a 30" 16:9 set. The 30" displays the same size image as a 24.5" 4:3 set on 4:3 material. The 32" displays 16:9 material with an image equivalent to a 29.4" 16.9 set - nearly identical to the 30". Everybody has a different tollerance for black bars and the 32" set will display them (letterbox) when they are missing (or smaller) on the 30" set for widescreen material. The opposite is true when you display 4:3 material - the 30" displays bars on the sides you don't get with the 32" . The 32" picture is about 70% larger (490" sq compared to 290" sq) than the 30" for 4:3 material. The 32" won't fill the screen with widescreen stuff so you decide which is more important. Availablility at WalMart differs a lot on the two sizes also.
oryan_dunn 02-16-05, 07:23 PM Originally posted by wdowell84
yeah I've had my gamecube forever, so it does have the digital out and thanks for the heads up on the HDTV system selector, I've never heard of that before, that's a great idea as long as it's not too expensive and the quality doesn't go down. So if I play the games in 4:3 on the TV it won't fill the whole screen right? I can't wait to play Resident Evil 4 on that tv.
The nincompoops at capcom did not make Resident Evil 4 an anamorphic widescreen game, but rather a letterbox widescreen. With a tv like the sanyo widescreen, you don't have a problem really, because you can just use the zoom 2 mode to cut out the black bars at the top and bottom (as opposed to an anamorphic widescreen image that you would use the full mode on). On the other hand, tv's like my Philips, that do not allow for use of the strech modes in 480p, will strech this game (equivilant to the full mode on the sanyo) and my resident evil will have black bars on the top and bottom, squishing the widescreen image to a thin bar. I'm wating for the PS2 release of the game, hoping that they can fix their tremendous oversight. I cannot believe that for the first game that is widescreen only, they would alienate widescreen tv owners. GRRR..... sorry for the rant, back ot now. I have the HD pelican system selector and love it. I use it to switch the component from my DVD player, PS2, gamecube, and PC.
Ryan
timmy1376 02-17-05, 09:51 AM If the new sets have the QAM tuning turned off, it's a NO for me. That was a great selling point, and I have no idea why they would turn it off.
Anyone?
I just purchased a HT32744 last night with a manufacture date of June 2004. The manual mentioned clearQAM, but I haven't had time to hook up the TV yet. I have insight cable so I hope I can recieve some clearQAM HD channels from my digital cable.
Shannon
I will hopefully be purchasing a 30" in a week or two. Let's keep each other posted on this QAM issue? You have to investigate yourself, the dept. manager at the Walmart I was at had no idea what QAM was :rolleyes:
wdowell84 02-17-05, 01:44 PM I also need to buy a new dvd player, is there one kind that's better than the others? I know it should have progressive scan, but almost all of them do now.
Johnfish 02-17-05, 02:06 PM At this time I have not had a reply to my email about the QAM tuner. If I dont hear something today I will call Sanyo tomorrow. As I said it seems to be a moot point for me as the communists running comcast have decided not supply the local channels with out digital cable. I would still like the TV to be fully functional so I'm going to stay on top of it.
Shano I would guess that your set should be able to recieve QAM. My brother recently purchased a WS model and it had info in the manual about QAM and the function is enabled on his set. I think I was one of the "unlucky" ones to get a newer set with it disabled.
John
Launchpad 02-17-05, 02:25 PM I am guessing that the cable companies were not too happy about the QAM tuner and flexed their monetary muscles to get it removed from the set. They want the consumer to have to pay for the digital box in order to receive the digital channels. This would also explain the limited availability recently if Sanyo was making changes. This is all purely speculation of course.
FWIW, I just bought a 30" on Saturday and it has the QAM tuner. However, they had just received new ones (setup DVD included) and I bought an older one (no DVD).
wdowell84,
I am still waiting for answers to my questions concerning the LG 7832NCX (Zenth 318) DVD player freezing with this TV, but if it turns out that they are incompatible, then stay away from it as one of your choices.
If I didn't get this DVD player I would have gone for the Pioneer 578a.
I tried the Toshiba 5970 which had HDMI output... I couldn't stand the slow response time of the remote... it was really bad, sometimes didn't work... and yes the batteries were new ;) It seems to be a common problem with it.
Good luck
wdowell84 02-17-05, 03:25 PM I just want to thank everyone for their help, I actually won't be getting the tv for a couple months because I have some bills to pay off, but I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again!!!
After reading through this forum I called all 6 of the local Wally Worlds in my area and managed to find one of the 32 inch sets.
Got it last night hooked it all up. The only issue I had with it was the black level and the white snow on dark or black areas of the screen on the digital channels. Funny thing was I didnt notice any of the snow on the HD channels. Well a lil adjusting of the contrast and brightness removed all the snow from black on the digital channels.
Im very happy with the HD and digital channels now. Im going to get a component video adapter for my PS2/dvd player and see what that looks like tonight. Altho the standard video on the PS2 with a normal video connect was nicer than my old TV. Kinda hard to beat this set for the bang to the buck ratio.
Amigo-2k 02-18-05, 02:48 PM Originally posted by rm-rf
After reading through this forum I called all 6 of the local Wally Worlds in my area and managed to find one of the 32 inch sets.
Got it last night hooked it all up. The only issue I had with it was the black level and the white snow on dark or black areas of the screen on the digital channels. Funny thing was I didnt notice any of the snow on the HD channels. Well a lil adjusting of the contrast and brightness removed all the snow from black on the digital channels.
How did you hook this up to your cable box?
I hooked mine up via Cox cable and it had some snow.
then I used a quality RCA from the box to the Video 1 on the TV and it was super clean and clear.
aovermy001 02-18-05, 05:55 PM I'm real happy with mine so far. I just got a 30" last Friday. Hardest part was finding one, the second hardest was getting it upstairs to the bedroom. That puppy is heavy!
Had to reset brightness and contrast to levels acceptabel to Earth standards, but other than that, no big issues with setup.
My worst problem I've seen with it so far was when connecting my HTPC via component. Component in 2 would not give me a full wide screen (still won't), whereas Component in 3 gives me a perfect wide screen.
Has anyone successfully hooked up a wide screen device to component 2 and got a wide screen?
Thanks.
Amy
Originally posted by Amigo-2k
How did you hook this up to your cable box?
I hooked mine up via Cox cable and it had some snow.
then I used a quality RCA from the box to the Video 1 on the TV and it was super clean and clear.
Im on component2 with component cables from a comcast box.
Another stange thing. I just got home and hooked my ps2 up via component cables on component3 and there are bright horizonal bars in the pict when playing dvd. Hooked the standard av back on it and the picture is nice again. The PS2 component cables are the monster ones. Havent had any time to look at it some more. So no clue on my end yet.
Originally posted by Launchpad
I am guessing that the cable companies were not too happy about the QAM tuner and flexed their monetary muscles to get it removed from the set. They want the consumer to have to pay for the digital box in order to receive the digital channels. This would also explain the limited availability recently if Sanyo was making changes. This is all purely speculation of course.
FWIW, I just bought a 30" on Saturday and it has the QAM tuner. However, they had just received new ones (setup DVD included) and I bought an older one (no DVD).
I dont necessarily think that getting the DVD indicates if it is a newer or older set, per se. I just recently bought a 32" and it does come with the QAM tuner and the setup DVD but the manufacturer date is June 2004.
Launchpad 02-18-05, 11:06 PM aovermy, I've hooked up the DVD player and Xbox through both sets of component inputs and had no problem with full screen. I've switched both of them out and they look the same on either input. It is strange that you are having a problem because I was under the impression that the TV uses the same programming for both of these inputs which changes depending on the signal (480p, 720p, ....).
seezar, Maybe I just got shafted out of my setup DVD. I'm curious, does your owner's manual mention the QAM tuner?
I remembered someone had mentioned that the ANALOG channel had to be scanned first before you could scan the Digital channels. That was at least a few months back. Have you tried that?
I can't image Sanyo would turn off ClearQAM way before the July 2005 "deadline." And things are still not settled yet. Besides, Sanyo just need to incorpate the DRM flag management feature, not just to kill the QAM function.
http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/HDTV/
Originally posted by Johnfish
At this time I have not had a reply to my email about the QAM tuner. If I dont hear something today I will call Sanyo tomorrow. As I said it seems to be a moot point for me as the communists running comcast have decided not supply the local channels with out digital cable. I would still like the TV to be fully functional so I'm going to stay on top of it.
Shano I would guess that your set should be able to recieve QAM. My brother recently purchased a WS model and it had info in the manual about QAM and the function is enabled on his set. I think I was one of the "unlucky" ones to get a newer set with it disabled.
John
I'm considering getting this, but I'd really like to know the status of the QAM tuner.
baracus2k 02-19-05, 08:47 PM i bought the 30" widescreen just today but is it just my tv or do all have this problem..... near the left and right edges the picture seems to get squished vertically..... if u turn off the tv and see your reflection in it.... if you move near the edge of the screen on either left or right...your reflection seems squished.... so is that normal? also whats up with the manual... it says that for picture shape if u set it to normal it will display either 4:3 or 16:9 depending on the content..... well how come it doesnt..... it always displays 4:3.... even for 16:9 sources it squishes the image.... however if u select full everythin seems ok when using 16:9
Originally posted by Launchpad
aovermy, I've hooked up the DVD player and Xbox through both sets of component inputs and had no problem with full screen. I've switched both of them out and they look the same on either input. It is strange that you are having a problem because I was under the impression that the TV uses the same programming for both of these inputs which changes depending on the signal (480p, 720p, ....).
seezar, Maybe I just got shafted out of my setup DVD. I'm curious, does your owner's manual mention the QAM tuner?
Im thinking its a ground issue with using the monster cables I may have time to try them again today.
Launchpad 02-20-05, 11:48 AM Originally posted by buzzly
I can't image Sanyo would turn off ClearQAM way before the July 2005 "deadline." And things are still not settled yet. Besides, Sanyo just need to incorpate the DRM flag management feature, not just to kill the QAM function.
http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/HDTV/
Good article buzzly. The article mentions manufacture as well as importing. Maybe Sanyo wanted to go ahead with the changes to avoid violating the import rule if they have them sitting in a shipping yard or a warehouse somewhere overseas for a while. But, if I'm reading correctly, this regulation applies to OTA broadcast as well. I wonder if the flag management has been incorporated into the OTA digital tuner.
Has anyone came up with a good list of service menu tweaks for this set yet ? I also haven't figured out the remote code for the comcast hd box yet. It doesnt seam to be any of the motorola codes listed in the manual.
riorussell 02-21-05, 10:36 AM Originally posted by cstu
I'm considering getting this, but I'd really like to know the status of the QAM tuner.
FWIW Like many others lurked in this forum for about a month, just bought the ht32744 this weekend. Included the setup DVD and QAM tuner works fine. No pincushion or color problems (once I set it up with THX optimizer). Manufactuer date was July 2004. HD programming is unbelievable. No snow on component inputs (using Sanyo progressive DVD player)
I do have a question. I would like to be able to watch QAM digital cable channels and OTA digital channels at the same time using the built in tuner- is this even possible? My thinking is that they may share frequency spectrum and it won't work. I tried running both lines into a splitter (combiner) and then into the digital tuner but it only picked up the OTA signals that way. Anyone out there gotten this to work or know if it is possible? Thanks.
Like you I also picked up a HT32744 this weekend.
From what I read it does not do QAM and DC channels at the same time. The maual says that the set will only store one channel list at a time. if you search for DC channels it will overwrite the QAM channel list.
I wish it didn't do thie either as in Southern MN I get a dozen or so QAM stations + all the MusicChoice feeds over DC, and 5 or 6 OTA channels that aren't carried by Charter. Too much of a pain to keep re-searching or channels when I want something different.
Otherwise the set is absolutly georgeous.
mahicks 02-21-05, 06:18 PM Originally posted by riorussell
No pincushion or color problems (once I set it up with THX optimizer).
Just a question....Am I the only one here that finds it nearly impossible to use THX optimizer or Avia to adjust the set with a BIG HONKING on screen display and menu in the way of the picture?
Anyone know how to disable it?
I think it was mentioned way earlier in the thread but no info was given, has anyone found any discreet codes for this set. I want to use my mx-700 hometheater master and some discreets would be really nice.
Originally posted by seezar
I think it was mentioned way earlier in the thread but no info was given, has anyone found any discreet codes for this set. I want to use my mx-700 hometheater master and some discreets would be really nice.
I use the MX-700 and posted this procedure earlier in the thread. I'll paste it in here:
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Discrete code for Sanyo inputs
Several people, including myself, have wished that Sanyo had included discrete codes for the inputs. Cycling through 7 inputs isn’t fun and doesn’t allow efficient macros for your remote control.
Well I may have a solution. I stumbled on ONE discrete command that goes directly to COMP2 input. A good leaning remote with macro ability should be able to access COMP2 then step through to the desired input.
Now to figure out how to get the command into my new Home Theatre Master MX700 remote control.
To make this story shorter, the code I found wasn’t hexdecimal. It was a code for the “One For All” brand, some of which can be found most anywhere including Walmart.
I bought one for $11.00, read the quick start instructions, and used the device code for Sanyo TV which was 0154.
Now the problem was how do I get the Comp2 discrete code mapped to a button which I can in turn, teach the MX700 and use in macros…whew!!
After lots of google seaches, I found the following procedure that works for several models of the “One For All” brand.
BTW, the discrete code for COMP2 is 252
Programming advanced codes into a URC-8811 or 6131
1. Press the device key you wish to program (e.g. DVD)
2. Press and hold SET (wait for two blinks of the LED)
3. Enter 9-9-4 (wait for two blinks)
4. Press SET again (don't hold it down)
5. Enter the 3 digit advanced code
6. Press a button to assign the code to (any button will do)
Works like a champ. Goes right to Comp2 input. Learned it with the MX700 and made macros for DVD, VCR, digital cable and so on.
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Hope this helps!!
Originally posted by 1nite
I use the MX-700 and posted this procedure earlier in the thread. I'll paste it in here:
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Thanks, that does help so I can set up macros for all my inputs. In all my searching it appears that Sanyo did not implement discreets for on/off for these sets which is a real bummer.
Johnfish 02-24-05, 12:11 AM Sanyo finally responded about the QAM tuner. They refered me to page 17 in the manual. In the old manual it has info on using cable with the digital tuner. The my new manual makes no mention of it at all. I will try hooking up a splitter to my cable tomorrow and see if the menu option for digital cable search appears. If not I will phone sanyo and try to get a straight answer.
John
sensibull 02-24-05, 07:38 AM Here are some other discrete codes (note the one for the Service Menu, for those who want to tweak). AFAIK, all require a One For All remote. Follow the procedure outlined above in 1nite's post:
000 speaker toggle
002 puts "R32 B26" on the screen. MENU cancels.
036 direct to the V-guide menu
052 Info
053 8
054 Volume +
055 Channel +
056 Sleep
057 9
058 Volume -
059 Channel -
060 Sharpness Cycle
061 Color Cycle
062 Bass
063 Contrast Cycle
065 Tint Cycle
066 Treble
067 Brightness Cycle
104 analog-digital tuner toggle
106 PixShape (zoom)
107 EXIT
116 surround toggle
119 Power toggle
120 Enter
121 Caption
122 Menu
123 Input cycle
126 Crude Info
129 Service Menu
130 seems to be a refresh command
173 Reset?
177 Clear?
179 Self Test
180 4
181 0
182 6
183 2
184 5
185 1
186 7
187 3
189 Volume Max/Min/Normal cycle
191 puts "P" on the screen
193 puts "A" on the screen
194 Scan velocity Hi.Lo.Off cycle?
230 Freeze
233 PAP (Picture and Picture) Swap
235 PAP
245 Mute
247 Stereo/Mono/SAP cycle
252 Component2 Input
253 Color enhancer Normal/Warm/Cool cycle
254 Black screen, only seems to be recoverable with EFC 002 then MENU
Thx for all the codes sensibull.
The brightness, contrast, color cycles....do these eliminate the large "menu" display? If so, this may work well for those of us trying to optimize picture with THX etc.
The ANALOG channel had to be scanned first before you could scan the Digital channels.
Originally posted by Johnfish
Sanyo finally responded about the QAM tuner. They refered me to page 17 in the manual. In the old manual it has info on using cable with the digital tuner. The my new manual makes no mention of it at all. I will try hooking up a splitter to my cable tomorrow and see if the menu option for digital cable search appears. If not I will phone sanyo and try to get a straight answer.
John
newusername 02-24-05, 11:30 AM Has anyone figured out a way to fix the barrel roll on the 30"?
sensibull 02-24-05, 05:55 PM Originally posted by 1nite
Thx for all the codes sensibull.
The brightness, contrast, color cycles....do these eliminate the large "menu" display? If so, this may work well for those of us trying to optimize picture with THX etc.
Unfortunately, I haven't had time to mess with any of those discrete codes besides the Comp2 and the Zoom/Pix Shape one. It was actually your post about the Comp2 discrete (thanks a million, by the way... it simplified my setup immensely) that got me digging around and I think I found the list on RemoteCentral.com or possibly the JP1 forum. Sorry I couldn't be more help...
mahicks 02-24-05, 06:21 PM Thanks for the codes!!! :-)
I'm going to buy a remote tomorrow at work and see if I can get them to work
Johnfish 02-24-05, 06:53 PM Here is the final answer on the whether the QAM portion of the digital tunerhas been disabled. Sanyo said that one of their US engineers hooked up the set to his local cable and recieved digital broadcasts INCLUDING XXX stuff that the cable company had not scrambled. This info got back to the engineers in the Japanese factory and they imediately stopped producing sets with QAM tuners enabled. The Japanese kinda jumped the gun and assumed this would be the norm instead of the exception. According to the sanyo rep the QAM tuner will be enabled when the next models are released. In the mean time if you buy one of these sets with a newer build date (mine is January 2005) the QAM tuner is not enabled. He also said my only option is to return the set and look for an older model. He even offered to let me call back and he would get with one of the engineers and determine what serial numbers have the QAM turned off. This way I could go to walmart and get one with the QAM turned on. As of now I am very happy with the set and since my local cable company doesnt provide any QAM channels I will probably not return it. I cant see trying to lug it back to the car into walmart and lug a new one into the house again.
John
Is the build date or serial number prominently on the box? Or is it at best a guess if you are buying a newer or older model?
sensibull 02-24-05, 07:26 PM Originally posted by mahicks
Thanks for the codes!!! :-)
I'm going to buy a remote tomorrow at work and see if I can get them to work
Definitely pick up the 8811 (I think Walmart's is sold as 8810) rather than the 6xxx model -- the 8811/10 is JP1 compatible, but the 6xxx is not (out of the box, anyway, you can have it modded to make it JP1 compatible).
I'm just learning all this JP1 stuff myself, but here are just a few things you can do with a $14 JP1 cable hooked up from your remote to your PC: Save and tweak your remote's configuratiion, create your own device upgrades, simplify the macro process, turn all buttons into learning keys, and much much more (I'm currently teaching my 8811 to mimic the wireless keyboard that runs my HTPC).
head over to http://www.hifi-remote.com/ofa/ for all the nitty gritty
I knew it must be a mistake somewhere, but the fact that Sanyo jumped the gun still surprised me.
Like you, I have Comcast cable (just the basic, Internet and no digital package) and I can get all 4 major networks (digital and sometimes HD) , PBS-HD, 5 more PBS, some Spanish channels, and 50-60 music channels for "free" on the digital side. I am almost 100% certain that Comcast carries all these digital channels across all its markets, including yours. FCC mandates all the cable companies to carries the same digital channels the customers can get OTA unscrambled. It is the law.
On a side note, Comcast uses 3 or 4 channels to transmit the pay-for-view and movie-on-demand materials (often in "fast-forward" speed). I had a close call when I turned on the TV with my young child sitting in front of the TV and found a soft porn movie playing in high speed. I reached for the power button and shut the TV off. No harm done. Whew!! I spoke to Comcast customer support, an lady kept telling me that she did not understand why I was fooling around with those digital channels when I was not a digital customer and not supposed to be able to receive anything digital. After explaining QAM and FCC mandate to her for 20 minutes, I just gave up.
I knew I could mask those channels off from the remote selection. But Comcast is moving these channels quite often nowaday, so at the end, I decided to switch to an OTA antenna. I am happy with it because I can get ALL my local channels.
If I were you, I would want an replacement that has the unlocked QAM just for future flexibility. Besides, I am certain that your Comcast cable already carries those "free" digital channels.
Originally posted by Johnfish
Here is the final answer on the whether the QAM portion of the digital tunerhas been disabled. Sanyo said that one of their US engineers hooked up the set to his local cable and recieved digital broadcasts INCLUDING XXX stuff that the cable company had not scrambled. This info got back to the engineers in the Japanese factory and they imediately stopped producing sets with QAM tuners enabled. The Japanese kinda jumped the gun and assumed this would be the norm instead of the exception. ......
John
Johnfish 02-24-05, 10:15 PM Thanks for the info buzzly!!
I am in the Richmond Va area and I think it varies by location. My brother has the 30 inch set with the QAM intact and the only thing we get is one pay per view advertisment channel and a whole buch of empty sub channels. When I called comcast they told me that the only way to get the digital signals was to have digital cable. But this may have been a canned answer. I am still considering returning the set and trying to get one with the QAM enabled. The box (which is STILL sitting in my livingroom) does have a serial number on it but does not have a manufacturing date. I believe I will not have any luck finding an old one in my area as all of the stores were sold out when I went to buy it. This one had just arrived at one of the stores the night I was calling around. Now all of the stores have them in stock so I would guess they are all the new models. This leaves me in a difficult position as I am now hooked on HD. If I return it i have to go back to my SD 27 inch and then wait for the new models to come out.
Oh well:(
John
Originally posted by Johnfish
According to the sanyo rep the QAM tuner will be enabled when the next models are released.
John
John,
He didn't happen to let it slip when the new models will be released? :)
patusratus 02-25-05, 12:33 AM Hello everyone:
Wow! Thread is long! I just bought the Sanyo HT30744 last night. I lurked in this forum for a couple days and decided to take the plunge. I live in London Ontario Canada. THe set was $900 Canadian from Walmart. The only other 30inch widescreens I have seen here in London start at $1300. This one is a bargain. My impressions:
I have no tilt issues or colour issues or geometry issues at all. The date on the back of my set is April 2004.
Standard cable is a little fuzzy, but acceptable. I did notice some multi-coloured snow when playing DVD's with a lot of black in the picture. I was using a S-VHS cable so I went out and bought some component cables. (cheap Philips for $26 Canadian) I have a Sony RDR-GX300 DVD recorder and an old Philips 724 DVD player. Both have component out. Using the component cables helped some.... the snow was in a smaller band. But the weird thing was that some DVD's with scenes with a lot of black weren't showing snow at all. (like 2010) Then I figured something out. If I am 6 feet or closer to the screen I can see the bit of snow I am getting on the screen playing DVD's. Now don't get me wrong, it is just a bit and not very noticeable. When I sit 8 feet away, (my normal distance) I can't see the snow at all!
I hooked up an old indoor antenna (rabbit ears with UHF loop) and can't get any HD OTA at all. I was bummed. I was hoping for at least one channel. Any other Canucks in the list know of any channels in my area?
I hooked up the cable and Rogers has a bunch of 528x480(60i) channels to watch, so that is nice. I can't see any of that snow with normal or HD channels. Absolutely none.
All in all I think it is a great deal, and consider it a keeper. I just wish there was ABSOLUTELY NO SNOW when viewing DVD's. I may try to find a new DVD player with HDMI out and see what it can do for me!
Johnfish 02-25-05, 07:54 AM Koski,
He didnt mention when the new models were supposed to arrive. That is one reason I am reluctant to take the set back. I seem to remember someone mentioned in a previous post that it might be in march / april but Im not sure. Is the return policy 30 days or 90 days? If its 30 I have to make up my mind in the next 2 weeks.
John
timmy1376 02-25-05, 09:43 AM Originally posted by buzzly
I am almost 100% certain that Comcast carries all these digital channels across all its markets, including yours. FCC mandates all the cable companies to carries the same digital channels the customers can get OTA unscrambled. It is the law.
If I were you, I would want an replacement that has the unlocked QAM just for future flexibility. Besides, I am certain that your Comcast cable already carries those "free" digital channels.
That's not actually true. They are not required to carry the same digital channels. They sign a contract for those just like they do for channels like
TNT and USA. They do not have to carry any digital channels at all.
In our market, we only get CBS and PBS. In the next market down, they get Fox, ABC, and PBS. Same company, less than 100 miles away.
Yes, let me back track a bit.
It is called the "Must Carry" rule. All local channels (local as defined by the FCC) must be provided at "no extra charge" within the cost of the most basic cable subscription provided by the respective cable company. These need not necessarily be digital until all transmission becomes digital but they MUST be unscrambled.
HD signals need not be provided unscrambled although a majority of the cable companies are doing so for the non-subscription cable channels available.
Comcast is broadcasting the major local channels in digital (and sometimes in high-def) unscrambled in most of their markets.
Originally posted by timmy1376
That's not actually true. They are not required to carry the same digital channels. They sign a contract for those just like they do for channels like
TNT and USA. They do not have to carry any digital channels at all.
In our market, we only get CBS and PBS. In the next market down, they get Fox, ABC, and PBS. Same company, less than 100 miles away.
Yes, let me back track a bit.
It is called the "Must Carry" rule. All local channels (local as defined by the FCC) must be provided at "no extra charge" within the cost of the most basic cable subscription provided by the respective cable company. These need not necessarily be digital until all transmission becomes digital but they MUST be unscrambled.
HD signals need not be provided unscrambled although a majority of the cable companies are doing so for the non-subscription cable channels available.
Comcast is broadcasting the major local channels in digital (and sometimes in high-def) unscrambled in most of their markets.
Originally posted by timmy1376
That's not actually true. They are not required to carry the same digital channels. They sign a contract for those just like they do for channels like
TNT and USA. They do not have to carry any digital channels at all.
In our market, we only get CBS and PBS. In the next market down, they get Fox, ABC, and PBS. Same company, less than 100 miles away.
Yes, let me back track a bit. It is called the "Must Carry" rule. All local channels (local as defined by the FCC) must be provided at "no extra charge" within the cost of the most basic cable subscription provided by the respective cable company. These need not necessarily be digital until all transmission becomes digital but they MUST be unscrambled.
HD signals need not be provided unscrambled although a majority of the cable companies are doing so for the non-subscription cable channels available. Comcast is broadcasting the major local channels in digital (and sometimes in high-def) unscrambled in most of their markets.
FCC Sec. 76.901 (Basic Service Minimums)
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/05dec20031700/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr _2003/octqtr/47cfr76.901.htm
FCC Sec. 76.630 (shall not scramble)
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/05dec20031700/edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr _2003/octqtr/47cfr76.630.htm
Section 76.630 ( Basic Tier Encryption Prohibited)
http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-03-225A1.pdf
Originally posted by timmy1376
That's not actually true. They are not required to carry the same digital channels. They sign a contract for those just like they do for channels like
TNT and USA. They do not have to carry any digital channels at all.
In our market, we only get CBS and PBS. In the next market down, they get Fox, ABC, and PBS. Same company, less than 100 miles away.
doubledeucelaw 02-25-05, 01:52 PM The picture on my HT30744 with a component connection carrying progressive signal from my yamaha dvd player is way grainier than the component connection with the same dvd player but switched to interlaced. This, in turn, is way grainier than the s-video connection. Poor cables maybe? (why would the progressive signal be worse than the interlaced?)
Thanks.
oryan_dunn 02-25-05, 01:55 PM Well, as you go up the chain of connections, they reveal a bad source. If the material isn't that good of quality, an S-Video connection will hide it more than a progressive component connection will. With that said, it is possible your cables are contributing to the problem. You'd just have to experiment with different cables and I'd also try different movies, something like the EE of LOTR that you know is excellent quality to begin with.
does anyone know if sanyo has tested different dvd players to see which ones are best compatible with this tv... i've tried two progressive players & my non progressive player has a better picture..
mahicks 02-25-05, 09:58 PM Originally posted by oryan_dunn
Well, as you go up the chain of connections, they reveal a bad source. If the material isn't that good of quality, an S-Video connection will hide it more than a progressive component connection will. With that said, it is possible your cables are contributing to the problem. You'd just have to experiment with different cables and I'd also try different movies, something like the EE of LOTR that you know is excellent quality to begin with.
Absolutely correct, I was thinking the same thing, then I scrolled down, and you'd already posted :-)
I would also recommend any good quality shielded cables, especially with this tv's poor ability to block RF interference that the cables could pickup.
Can anyone else confirm if thier Digital Ant coax input gets warm / hot to the touch. I am feeding the input off of my cable model line with a splitter to the TV and into a Replay 4500 unit, and the Replay does not get warm, but the connecter to the TV is quite warm... Is this an effect of the tuner, or should I be doing something different?
Loving the picture so far... used Ovation S&V to tweak it, and get great images from my DVD player, PS2 and Replay.
TIA
mahicks 02-26-05, 05:35 PM Originally posted by n0esc
Can anyone else confirm if thier Digital Ant coax input gets warm / hot to the touch. I am feeding the input off of my cable model line with a splitter to the TV and into a Replay 4500 unit, and the Replay does not get warm, but the connecter to the TV is quite warm... Is this an effect of the tuner, or should I be doing something different?
Loving the picture so far... used Ovation S&V to tweak it, and get great images from my DVD player, PS2 and Replay.
TIA
Just got home, stuck my hand behind the tv and.......YUP, its VERY warm. Thats normal though. My stand alone box doesn't have any fans and the back gets REALLY HOT, not just very warm.
Thanks... Kinda thought it might be the tuner itself, just wanted to make sure.
Now if I could only figure out a way to not have to have a splitter, and then another cable going back to the TV to make all the inputs display correctly.
Charters ClearQAM selection quality is pretty dispicable... sure doesn't make me want to pay another 30$ a month for Charter Digital/HD
n0esc
arniebuteft 02-26-05, 07:44 PM This sounds strange, but it appears as if my HT32744 doesn't have a digital tuner! I bought it at the end of November from Walmart here in Davenport, Iowa, but never bothered playing with the HD inputs, since I really didn't watch much broadcast tv. Now I'm interested in getting the HD tuner on-line, to get a new channel that recently went digital.
Here's the weird thing. I go to the menu, to add digital channels, to try and make it re-search for new digital channels. The "channel" icon, the one that looks like an antenna, is grayed-out. So is the "Digital Caption Font" menu (the dude with a "cc" coming out of his mouth). They're not selectable in the menu. And when I reset the tv, and it starts looking for channels again, it says it's searching digital channels on the progress screen, but it can't find any. And when I press the "tuner" button on my remote, it says "not available". The only icons available in the menu screen are the V-guide, Setup, and Picture/Sound (and the "digital audio output" option under Setup is also grayed out).
At first I thought I'd made a big mistake, and somehow bought some cheap HD-ready tv, without a built-in tuner. But my manual confirms I have a tuner, and I verified the model number of my TV from the back nameplate.
Anyone have a clue? I'm really frustrated right now. Thanks!
mahicks 02-26-05, 08:36 PM Ok....heres my thoughts....
At first I thought maby you just could not receive a digital OTA signal with your current setup.
To simulate that, I unplugged my OTA antenna feed and did a channel scan. My results are interesting.....
You state that when you hit the tuner button, you get "not available."
After scanning w/ no antenna input, I get "D 03" when I hit the tuner button (FWIW, I DO NOT get digital channel 3 or anything close to it in my area via OTA or QAM, therefore, I feel this is the NORMAL response this TV should have when ZERO digital stations are receivable).
My Synopsis....HOUSTON, I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!
If you bought your TV in November, Return it to Wal-mart for an exchange....Your TV definitely has a problem.
For what it's worth, you stated you cannot select the Digital Caption Font menu....This is perfectly normal, as this option is only selectable when you have switched to the Digital Tuner.
If you have any problems exchanging your TV, please send me a private message and I will assist you as needed.
Just thought I'd share my thoughts on my set. After living with the 30" WS since mid-December, I've finally decided to return it to Wal-Mart. I live in the DC Metro area, and am able to pull in all the networks, PBS, WB, and some independent channels OTA with a Zenith sliver sensor. The picture quality has been really good, but the tilt issue has got to me. Whenever there are any type of graphics or ticker on the screen, I notice that the right side is about half inch higher than the left side. Now I've read in this thread that people have called Sanyo about the issue, and their advice is to return the set to Wal-Mart and get another one. I haven't fiddled around with the service menu, but from what I gather, this is an issue that cannot be addressed through adjusting the settings. Is this correct?
Sad to see this tv go back, but the tilt issue just bothered me too much. I've still got the box, but its a bit cut up. Does Wal-Mart take all returns within 90 days, no questions asked? Sure hope so.
mahicks 02-27-05, 11:42 AM Yes you can return your tv....BUT....If you get another one, and set it up the same way, then you are guaranteed to have the same tilt problems. The service menu will not help you much either. Sanyo will not help you either. This is one of those inherent problems that you have to live with or return it. FWIW, all large picture tubes suffer from this to one degree or another, it's not just a Sanyo problem...It would have been nice if Sanyo would have offered a tilt switch though...
Do I understand that Sanyo has actually built a QAM tuner into the sets and then disabled it? What a bizzare waste of money and to actually make intentionally reduce features on a set, you gotta scratch your head. It reminds me of when LG disabled the ability to upconvert over component. "Lets make our product less useful to consumers!" You cant make this stuff up.
QAM capability is well worth having, IMO. I have it in my OTA stb and I don't bother with OTA anymore, although OTA does have a lovely picture, and time and program information. I get all the Comcast stuff the earlier poster mentioned, including the occasional fast forward pay per view content of various ilk. We even use it for music when the tv is off, so the STB is on more than the tv.
how do you know if your tv has built in QAM tuner ? i have my cable hooked up to analog jack & digital jack.. when i switch to digital channels i do get local channels but thats it. so does that mean my QAM tuner does work but other channels are scrambled ??
Yes, your QAM tuner is working and is receiving the unscrambled channels.
Originally posted by GPnOK
how do you know if your tv has built in QAM tuner ? i have my cable hooked up to analog jack & digital jack.. when i switch to digital channels i do get local channels but thats it. so does that mean my QAM tuner does work but other channels are scrambled ??
mahicks 02-27-05, 06:41 PM I've been on the look out for a new DVD player for my Home Theater Tv, A Toshiba 50h71 since my current one died. After reading reviews and everything else under the sun...A few things have me wondering about the Progressive Scan DVD player hooked up to our Sanyo 32744 in the bedroom.
So....Here goes.....
Has Anyone tried your DVD player in Non Progressive mode? I only ask because with our Tv upconverting everything to 1080I, it would only make sense for the DVD to NOT do a conversion, since the TV is only going to make another conversion. I know it sounds kind of crazy but at the same time it makes alot of sense....Think about it....EVERYONE with a high end upscaler chooses DVD players that thave the best 480I output over component. I know that our tv is no where near a top of the line upscaler, but It makes me wonder, does the TV know best?
Any input or suggestions would be great.
I bought the ht32744 a couple weeks ago during a Super Bowl Sunday sale for $647 ($50 off weekend sale) and have so far had mixed feelings about the set. The picture quality is great for OTA digital and the few channels that come in unscrambled over cable. But I am having a hard time getting over the tilt problem (right edge is marginally higher than left edge in letterbox mode). It bothers me and from what I am reading, it can't be fixed. Also, when playing xbox video games using the component hd av pack I experience some sort of horizontal flicker. I then went ahead and modded it to output dvd movies in progressive mode and that did get rid of the wavy green vertical lines, but it still produces the annoying horizontal flicker. It is most noticeable in the white area of the picture. The picture is a 100x better though in progressive. I am just wondering if this flicker problem is unique to me or does anyone else see it?
doubledeucelaw 02-27-05, 11:48 PM Originally posted by metjgd
I am just wondering if this flicker problem is unique to me or does anyone else see it?
I see it too.
Joe Wilkins 02-28-05, 10:16 AM Sanyo HT32744, SA Explorer 3250HD, RGB hookup
My 4:3 pictures are getting squeezed into a square with vertical bars about 2" wide on each side in "normal" mode. I have the HD box output to 4:3, and 16:9/HD/over-air channels are all sized properly. Any idea why the digital cable channels are getting squeezed?
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sterno3 02-28-05, 10:23 AM Originally posted by Joe Wilkins
Sanyo HT32744, SA Explorer 3250HD, RGB hookup
My 4:3 pictures are getting squeezed into a square with vertical bars about 2" wide on each side in "normal" mode. I have the HD box output to 4:3, and 16:9/HD/over-air channels are all sized properly. Any idea why the digital cable channels are getting squeezed?
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Just switch your aspect ratio to "letterbox". That should 'fix' the issue.
Joe Wilkins 02-28-05, 11:27 AM Nope, that just shrinks both the picture and the bars down further, inside the letterbox.
The HD box lets me select 4:3 or 16:9 output, but neither setting solves this issue. Overair analog 4:3 displays properly on Normal too.
bhenley 02-28-05, 11:52 AM Originally posted by Joe Wilkins
Nope, that just shrinks both the picture and the bars down further, inside the letterbox.
The HD box lets me select 4:3 or 16:9 output, but neither setting solves this issue. Overair analog 4:3 displays properly on Normal too.
This would appear to be something your SA Explorer 3250HD is doing to 4:3 material. You said OTA channels were sized properly but it isn't clear if you meant OTA analog or OTA digital, and if digital what you see when you hit the Info button on the remote. When my OTA digital stations are sending a 720p or 1080i signal with 4:3 content, there are bars down both sides as well as the letterbox bars top and bottom. Then, Zoom takes the postage stamp to full screen. Your picture needs a horizontal zoom w/o any changes to vertical since it is currently full vertically. The 32" doesn't have the Zoom1/2 of the 30" so you'd probably need to check if the 3250 has a way to vary the output frequency. If you set it to 16:9, would the image you posted get bars on all 4 sides (and a Zoom would make it full screen)? When you have the shape of the image posted, what does Info say the source material is (480/720/1080)? Do you get the same Info for everything you view from the 3250?
Joe Wilkins 02-28-05, 12:00 PM I suspected as much - when I saw that screen I kept looking for "off". Either the TV or the box should so resizing, not both, and the box is lousy at it. I don't know how to, or even if I can, turn that off.
As far as I can tell when I set the box to 16:9 there is no difference. For the image posted, and everything else I get from the box, the info is Component3 / 1920*1080(60I).
Joe Wilkins 02-28-05, 01:00 PM dup
Joe Wilkins 02-28-05, 01:01 PM I just got it. I'm not sure what I did, but in trying to get at the service menu of the 3250HD, I managed to unlock a setting under the aspect ratio - it now allowed output format. Before, only 1080i was checked to it was converting everything to that.
I set aspect ratio to 4:3 and checked all 4 formats: 480I, 480P, 720P, 1080I. Now the all pictures display correctly except some local HD channels that I think are rebroadcast at 720 instead of their original 1080 - that has black bars on the sides. No more white bars anywhere. Plus pressing info gives different resolution data based on the channel. Discovery HD and Sportscenter in HD really look amazing.
Thanks for the help!
I have had the 30 inch widescreen for 6 months and having a couple of problems
1. I made thread about this problem but didn't get any answers to fix. I am experiencing wavyness (it moves it kind of hard to explain) on vertical edges. In my thread they said the tv was defected but i think it might be fixable because i went into the service menu and change some things and notice the waves got little bigger and less rapid in moving.
2. Is there a i can stretch or enlarge the screen vertically in the service menu cause i notice black bars at the top and bottom when watching things and its not letterbox that i thinking of.
3.Is there a way in the service menu to make the TV stop up converting 720p to 1080i
Any help would be appreciated
brijenjas 02-28-05, 10:47 PM Originally posted by The89
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3.Is there a way in the service menu to make the TV stop up converting 720p to 1080i.
Any help would be appreciated
No there is no way to stop it. These TVs upconvert everything to 1080i
twiztidgear 03-02-05, 03:29 PM I was just at the walmart in my area and noticed that the 30" had drop down to $562, quite a large drop. Not sure if this is at most walmarts, or extremely YMMV. I plan to go down to the walmart that I bought mine from (which happens to not be this one) and see if they also dropped the price down.
The89, I have the exact same wavyness problem. It's not extremely bad but pretty noticable and bugs the hell out of me when I'm playing a game on my PS2. And I only get wavyness when I'm going through the component inputs. I wish there was a fix for this, cause other than that it is an excellent tv.
twiztidgear that sounds exactly like my problem
oryan_dunn 03-02-05, 05:54 PM Originally posted by twiztidgear
I was just at the walmart in my area and noticed that the 30" had drop down to $562, quite a large drop. Not sure if this is at most walmarts
It's that price at our walmart as well.
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