Any one have an original service manual PDF for the HT30744, not the scanned version because its not readable in the shaded tables.

Originally posted by bigbangtech
Oh does anyone know the proper way to reset the TV to factory defaults or a hard reset? Just as a last ditch effort of course.

Reset button on the remote is the only way I know of.

Originally posted by Shawnito
Any one have an original service manual PDF for the HT30744, not the scanned version because its not readable in the shaded tables.

I'm pretty sure you could get the SM for the 30744 in PDF form if you asked Support(@sanyotv.com). Page 5 was rescanned in high res and available as a separate download (3MB) but you can use page 5 from the 32" pdf. The Initial Setup Data column(s) have different values on the 30" and 32" but you shouldn't be changing your unit to match the values in that column anyhow. Items 106 & 108 show 70 as the setup value for both sizes but your TV probably doesn't use 70 for red or blue drive. There are differences between the initial setup value for 30" and 32" on 117 thru 120 but many of those values didn't match what Ryan originally posted for the 30" at his store and others of those didn't match either 32" I checked. Someone made changes to the initial setup data that are specific to that unit that you shouldn't undo, at least w/o recording the value they start with before you change ANYTHING in the SM.

The best thing would be for someone to get the 30744 PDF from support and make it available as a download instead of the scanned version. Even then, people shouldn't assume they should change their values to what appears in the table (once it is readable).

Nuts, just really noticed the barrell roll enough to bother me. I've seen it in the past couple days, but it really ruined it for me when watching HD in sports, real noticeable in the Bulls game on WGN HD tonight, almost ruined the whole thing

I'm having a problem with the sanyo 30 inch widescreen model I purchased about 3 weeks ago where after maybe 5 or 10 minutes the tv display will just shut off but the audio will keep working, I can't even tell the tv is on if it weren't for the sound. I'm guessing this unit is faulty, has anyone else had this problem?

If it's when using the built in tuners, then yes it probably is a faulty unit. Check your connections if it's when using the component or HDMI inputs. Can you display the menu or anything after this 5-10 minute period?

I have a Sanyo 32744 (32") and am very happy about the purchase in general. Here's a problem that I have observed :

S-video worse than composite : Both S-video inputs produce worse picture than composite. I tried S-video source from Satellite box, computer video card, MediaMVP. All consistently show poor quality compared to connecting composite output from the same source. I tried different cables, and settings (did not change service settings) on the TV, but no change. Quality on S-video is not horrible, or any other serious problem - but composite always looks better. The problem wth the picture is that it looks like a low resolution source.

I took the S-video output through a RF modulator and connected to analog RF-in of TV. This comes out MUCH better than directly connecting S-Video !

Originally posted by sanyo34_user
I have a Sanyo 32744 (32") and am very happy about the purchase in general. Here's a problem that I have observed :

S-video worse than composite : Both S-video inputs produce worse picture than composite. I tried S-video source from Satellite box, computer video card, MediaMVP. All consistently show poor quality compared to connecting composite output from the same source. I tried different cables, and settings (did not change service settings) on the TV, but no change. Quality on S-video is not horrible, or any other serious problem - but composite always looks better. The problem wth the picture is that it looks like a low resolution source.

I took the S-video output through a RF modulator and connected to analog RF-in of TV. This comes out MUCH better than directly connecting S-Video !

Maybe your unit's svideo input is messed up. It's just a guess, but you may want to verify the instore unit behavior if its similar to yours to decide if you want to return it.

Hello All:

I just wanted to thank everyone for posting on this thread about these Sanyo TVs. Your posts have helped me greatly in my decision to buy a HT32744.

All I can say about this TV is WOW! what a deal. I have had absolutly no problems with this set other than the sound stinks. I would definitely recommend an external sound system with this TV, for full effect.

The picture quality is exceptional for a $700 dollar TV. Other than the top of the line Sony 34" direct view set I saw at Circuit******. I can't tell a difference between this set and any other direct view sets I have seen.

I do have one question for anyone here. I have an older, non progressive scan, Pansonic DVD player that has served me well. I am using component cables and the picture quality is many many times better than the composite video connection I used with my 12 year old 27" Magnavox TV this set is replacing. Has anyone seen the diffence in picture quality between a progressive scan DVD player set for interlaced output vs. progressive output? I am trying to determine if going out and buying a progressive scan DVD player is worth it.

Thanks in advance.

Awhile back, someone posted about color distortions on the HT32744.
I got one of these sets a couple of weeks ago, and am experiencing the same problem.

While watching a program with a light or white background, the left third of the screen exhibits a bluish tint, while the right third displays a
(very noticeable) brownish tint. This brown tint is particularly apparent in the lower right corner of the tube. It has nothing to do with magnetic interference from nearby speakers.


I spoke to Sanyo's Customer Service/Technical department twice.
The second time I got their supervisor, Harvey. They are polite and
helpful to a fault, and have admitted that this problem exists.
Sanyo says the color distortion is a "characteristic" of this tube, and that there is no fix for it.
I asked if I would have better luck if I returned this for another set (same model) and they said that they all have this trait.
Basically I either have to live with this obvious color distortion, or return
the set and buy something different.

Are any other owners of the 32" set experiencing this problem? Any thoughts on this issue? An earlier poster said that Sanyo replaced his picture tube. Sanyo flat out denies this. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Bought this TV in Aug/04...Bowing down on left is still problem - svc menu had no adjustment. Also sometimes there is no pic on power-up, just the clicks and then sound- no pic. I have to turn off and wait, maybe it will work next time...Last week I turned it on and the pic was washed out and blurry, so I turned it off and on and it was ok. Is this a lemon or what?
-Bob

Originally posted by 4TXTECH
I do have one question for anyone here. I have an older, non progressive scan, Pansonic DVD player that has served me well. I am using component cables and the picture quality is many many times better than the composite video connection I used with my 12 year old 27" Magnavox TV this set is replacing. Has anyone seen the diffence in picture quality between a progressive scan DVD player set for interlaced output vs. progressive output? I am trying to determine if going out and buying a progressive scan DVD player is worth it.

Thanks in advance.

I'd say save your money and wait until they decide on a format for the new HD-DVDs and the new players come out. To be honest I couldn't really tell the difference between a progressive and interlaced player.

I have the 30 inch, and have also noticed the weak look of the S-Video connection, but this is the best connection available on my current D* receiver. I might try the RF thing you were talking about

Originally posted by Da Truth
I have the 30 inch, and have also noticed the weak look of the S-Video connection, but this is the best connection available on my current D* receiver. I might try the RF thing you were talking about

Try composite, if you have it in your receiver. I had used the RF modulator just to ensure that my S-video outputs were good. Theoretically, RF modulating should give the worst signal, even less than composite.

Is there anybody else out there who had similar experience with S-video ?

My S-Video is input from my PS2, Dreamcast, and a cheapy DVD player from an S-Video switcher and it looks fine on my 30". I have a V5xxxx serial number.

Hey guys. Ive been reading over this thread after finding it during a google search for info about this tv. Im considering buying one in a few weeks, the major selling point for me was the built in tuner and HDMI inputs. However, Im now wondering if I will be able to recieve HD broadcasts over my regular cable line? I dont have digital cable and have no way of upgrading to digital cable( Cable is included in the rent for my apartment, so its set as is.) Without any type of reciever box etc. will I still get good quality HD broadcasts? Also, HDMI is capable of carrying both digital video and digital audio signals as far as I know, does this mean if I connect my DVD player via HDMI to the tv, and then have the optical out cable from the tv hooked up to my reciever that Ill be able to get 6.1 audio etc. from my dvd player without hooking it up to the reciever? This will be my first HDTV purchase, and Ive always been more of an audiophile than a videophile. Any help would be appreciated!

Drslump,

You will only be able to receive HD broadcasts via your cable only if your cable company sends the signal unencrypted (clear QAM). With most cable companies this usually includes the locals.

The optical cable output only works for the ATSC tuner.

Originally posted by r.jones
Drslump,

You will only be able to receive HD broadcasts via your cable only if your cable company sends the signal unencrypted (clear QAM). With most cable companies this usually includes the locals.

The optical cable output only works for the ATSC tuner.

Ok thanks for the info. I dont get a ton of channels anyway and was mostly interested in being able to catch lost and 24 etc. in HD. I do however have a ton of DVDs Im looking forward to watching in HD. Also thank you for the info on the audio output, looks like Ill have to buy another opti cable.

Originally posted by Drslump
I do however have a ton of DVDs Im looking forward to watching in HD.

Just to make sure no one has misinformed you, you cannot watch any DVD in "HD." At best, you will get a DVD that has been scaled up to HD resolution, and that will only be with a new DVD player and it's probably not worth the money to do so with this set.

Your DVD's might look better, but it won't be because they are in HD.

Originally posted by Sudsy
Awhile back, someone posted about color distortions on the HT32744.
I got one of these sets a couple of weeks ago, and am experiencing the same problem.

While watching a program with a light or white background, the left third of the screen exhibits a bluish tint, while the right third displays a
(very noticeable) brownish tint. This brown tint is particularly apparent in the lower right corner of the tube. It has nothing to do with magnetic interference from nearby speakers.


I spoke to Sanyo's Customer Service/Technical department twice.
The second time I got their supervisor, Harvey. They are polite and
helpful to a fault, and have admitted that this problem exists.
Sanyo says the color distortion is a "characteristic" of this tube, and that there is no fix for it.
I asked if I would have better luck if I returned this for another set (same model) and they said that they all have this trait.
Basically I either have to live with this obvious color distortion, or return
the set and buy something different.

Are any other owners of the 32" set experiencing this problem? Any thoughts on this issue? An earlier poster said that Sanyo replaced his picture tube. Sanyo flat out denies this. Any feedback would be much appreciated. Thanks.


I have had my HT32744 for about 6 weeks and have more recently noticed similar color issues. While I have not observed any problems on the left side of the screen, the right side (1/4 to 1/3) has been intermittently suspect. It was most noticeable with the recent college basketball games where there was red (looked more maroon) in that area. I also noticed that the whites looked more brownish-yellow. I had thought it could be due to an unshielded speaker being too close, but it has occurred even when it has been removed. Is it possible that the internal speakers are the cause? It's not always there and I haven't yet figured out when it shows up. It is distracting now that I look for it. So much so that I am about ready to take it back (probably would have it it were not so darn heavy).

Originally posted by Shink
Just to make sure no one has misinformed you, you cannot watch any DVD in "HD." At best, you will get a DVD that has been scaled up to HD resolution, and that will only be with a new DVD player and it's probably not worth the money to do so with this set.

Your DVD's might look better, but it won't be because they are in HD.

Upscaling DVD players are only about 200 bucks at best buy, would you say its still not worth it to get one of those for this set? Also why wouldnt it be worth it, and would it be worth it on other sets?

Originally posted by r.jones

The optical cable output only works for the ATSC tuner.

Does that mean you tried connecting a DVD via HDMI and do not get anthing on the optical out from the TV? The TV only provides something on the optical out when it has a digital audio source, but that is the ATSC tuner, Clear QAM, and HDMI input.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=4848398#post4848398

WannabeSQ says:

Re Number 7, I have a receiver with the same inputs as yours, and what I did was buy a DVD player with HDMI, so then the optical cable from the TV does double duty from the TV tuner and the DVD player. It also was more in sync than going directly from the (same) DVD player to the receiver. Anyone else noticed sync problems? I got one of those upconverting DVD players, not that it really does wonders, but it keeps the signal digital right to the TV.

I've spoken with and had email correspondence with Sanyo support and both communications say this is a known problem with the tube. There's no correction available. It appears that some sets are worse than others. I like
this set but will be returning it within the week as the yellow/brown and blue ovals are way to bright and distracting.

If Sanyo can bring out their new models without this issue, I'll certainly buy one again.

Originally posted by cafmeyer
I have had my HT32744 for about 6 weeks and have more recently noticed similar color issues. While I have not observed any problems on the left side of the screen, the right side (1/4 to 1/3) has been intermittently suspect. It was most noticeable with the recent college basketball games where there was red (looked more maroon) in that area. I also noticed that the whites looked more brownish-yellow. I had thought it could be due to an unshielded speaker being too close, but it has occurred even when it has been removed. Is it possible that the internal speakers are the cause? It's not always there and I haven't yet figured out when it shows up. It is distracting now that I look for it. So much so that I am about ready to take it back (probably would have it it were not so darn heavy).

I was not clear on what clear QAM is, so I called Sanyo today & I'll try and clarify it. Simply put, if you have satellite service you don't need QAM enabled. If you have cable, you should get it enabled so you can watch HD & digital channels without a set-top box (assuming your cable company hasn't scrambled these channels).

Regarding the "barrel roll" that many are talking about. I just purchased the HT30744 a week ago & noticed the same problem. To fix it I went to the menu of my HD receiver & changed the screen setting/format. It was set to PANORAMIC, and that was causing the problem.

The Panoramic setting isn't what's causing the problem. I use the built in tuners and the problem is still there. It's a physical design flaw in the set.

Changing the panoramic setting on my Directv HD receiver solved the problem for me.

Originally posted by Shink
The Panoramic setting isn't what's causing the problem. I use the built in tuners and the problem is still there. It's a physical design flaw in the set.

When you say barrel roll, are you talking about the corners of the screen going in or out compared to the sides?

Both of the following distortions are adjustable in the SM:

) pincushion (

(barrel)

If your barrel roll is something other than barrel distortion (where the top/bottom "lines" on the screen aren't as wide as the middle "lines"), can you describe what it is you see?

It's been posted before, the set looks like this:


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So everything at the edge of the screen gets "squished" horizontally.

I bought mine last summer at Wal-Mart for $747. For the last 3 weeks I have been getting some greenish hues on the right side and often times the image seems washed out in regard to color. Fortunately I retained the reciept. I refused the same model and the only other similar sets they had were the Phillips 30 inch I was thinking of buying before the Sanyo hit the shelf and they still have a 30 inch Panasonic Tau... but they are discontinuin it and cutt the price down to $700 (still high in my opinion for a non tuner inclusive HD set of this type and size).

So I ended up with a Wal Mart gift card worth $811 which I took, rather than haul the TV back home and perhaps not get even that if I attempted to return it again.

I havent gone through the mass reviews for the Phillips or the Pan Tau they sell,,, should these be avoided in anyone's opinion?
Id step up to their plasma sets but they have the prices on them so inaccurate to current market value it isn't funny. They have a 42" Tatung for $2500 that is selling at some electronic stores for half that. They have a 42" Sanyo for $3000 that has been there probably from when they started stocking plasmas to begin with.

All this Wal Mart credit I have (800 gift card and I carry a WM dedicated store charge for another $3K that I seldom use because I generally only buy some food products there and some cleaning supplies).

But this Sanyo ultimately disappointed me. Thats not to say they are a bad design. Obviously lots of folks here enjoy the set they bought. Perhaps some internal tuning may have overcome my problems. maybe not. But I didn't like the speakers and the sound they made in their housing if you turned it up too high...nasty little faded rattle sound.

Maybe I will go read about the Sony 34XBR960... I was hearing about that before I bought the Sanyo, but as it wasnt out at the time I couldnt buy.

O.K. I have this nice 32" and I want to hook my HTPC up to it using a FX5900XT with the DVI to HDMI adaptor. I will be using a 15" monitor to set up the dual view(and then removing it once I have everything working) and need to know which resolution to set for the t.v. to allow for the minimal use of underscan. I use 1024x768x32 on a 22" CRT and would like to get as close to this in clarity and sharpness as possible. I would like to be able to surf the net and play my flight sims but don't know if the underscan will compensate enough to give me readable text. I will probably post this in the htpc forum also, but since this forum is dedicated to the two sets, I thought I would get a faster answer here. If out of line, please feel free to move it.
Silvertip

O.K. I have this nice 32" and I want to hook my HTPC up to it using a FX5900XT with the DVI to HDMI adaptor. I will be using a 15" monitor to set up the dual view(and then removing it once I have everything working) and need to know which resolution to set for the t.v. to allow for the minimal use of underscan. I use 1024x768x32 on a 22" CRT and would like to get as close to this in clarity and sharpness as possible. I would like to be able to surf the net and play my flight sims but don't know if the underscan will compensate enough to give me readable text. I will probably post this in the htpc forum also, but since this forum is dedicated to the two sets, I thought I would get a faster answer here. If out of line, please feel free to move it.
Silvertip

Sorry to bump, but I know some one has this info ?

I need to do few things in the service menu.

Red push. What items and values have been used ?

Are there adjustable setting for the presets in the menu setup, Currently you can only set the "manual" for bright ,hue,con, sharp. I would assume that there are adjustments for the "Normal, News and Movie" settings.
I have adjusted these items in my Sony in the service menu with great success.


Thanks

I called the Sanyo warranty line, and they wanted me to initially get an exchange at Walmart. They also said the FINAL shipment of HT30744's went out last week, and of course none of my local Walmarts had it in stock.

No problem, on Monday they said a tech would contact me, and Friday the tech made an appointment. Today, the tech came by and luckily it was a very simple problem. The main transformer was losing its setting (knobs were defective and loose). He was able to play around and get a picture, but it would crap out again.

So he took the whole power board and will be replacing the transformer when it comes in and then putting the board back in.

All of this free of charge of course since it's still under 1st year warranty.

I suggest to anyone that hasn't bought the 3 year extension warranty for $40 to get it. And it's 3 years ON TOP of the 1 year mfr warranty.

If anyone has a brightness fluctuation and once in a while sees diagonal lines with a really light picture out of the blue, your transformer may be going.

Originally posted by bigbangtech
I have a Sanyo HT30744 and noticed intermittent flickering. I have pretty much ruled out everything except the TV itself.

It manifests itself on ALL inputs to a greater or lesser degree. (Component 2+3, Composite 1 and 2, S-VIDEO, HDMI and both OTA tuners). Flickers from OTA signal, cable signal and DVD playback.

It's a general quick brightness fluctuation of the whole picture most noticeable when you have a dark scene, or in gray or black sidebars for 4:3 or letterbox programs. It is not only confined to dark scenes, but normal scenes will see the flickering too. It goes on for 30 seconds or so then goes away for a few seconds. It seems to have gotten progressively worse over the past two weeks.

Also, during a few dark scenes of an HD channel, the screen was kind of gray instead, and you could see diagonal light gray lines crossing the screen at an interval of about every one inch or so.

Someone had mentioned that it was Timer Warner NYC's cable signal, but that is ruled out because the screen flickers even with the box off.

But one observation:

If you have no devices turned on and the "no signal" square bounces around the screen, the black screen doesn't really flicker(but I can't be 100% sure).

I have a Sanyo repair center listed as being about a mile away from us. Does anyone have an idea of what's going on with this set and would Sanyo send a tech or likely tell me to go get it replaced at wallyworl? The reason I ask is because someone in this thread claimed that Sanyo actually had a tech replace a bad tube for them

Originally posted by bigbangtech
I called the Sanyo warranty line, and they wanted me to initially get an exchange at Walmart. They also said the FINAL shipment of HT30744's went out last week, and of course none of my local Walmarts had it in stock.


Is it being discontinued?

where can we get an extended warranty from?

40 for 3 years, seems like a bargin.

Originally posted by Amigo-2k
where can we get an extended warranty from?

40 for 3 years, seems like a bargin.

Here is the 2 year (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=123960&dept=3944&product_id=2349395&path=0%3A3944%3A123960).

And the 3 Year (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2349401&cat=123960&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A123960&xsell=2349395).

Thanks for the link - I'm all over the three year one!

Ok, this is my first post, so don't shoot the messenger.

I just got back from my local Super Wal-Mart and the Electronics Manager told me that the Sanyo HT30744 is no longer going to be carried by Wal-Mart. This came as a complete surprise to me, because I was able to pick up one from them just last week (they had 3 come in the night before and I kept calling them about it).

I have been snooping on this post for awhile and I just decided to jump in. It has taken me about 20 hours to go through all of the posts (and I have yet to finish) and I still am trying to figure out everything on this TV. It looks good, but I am no expert.

So going back to the manager story.... he said that Sanyo can not keep up with Wal-Mart's demand and so Wal-Mart dropped the item. Supposedly, there are still some in the pipeline, but that will be it. He had one left to come in and has four people waiting to get their hands on it.

He also said that at the price of $562, that Wal-Mart was taking a 10% loss on the product. He then informed me that there are other electronics where the same hit was taking place. He said that Corporate were willing to take a Loss-Leader in order to get more traffic at each store because they mark up so much on other items.

Thats all I have.

PS. If someone who has this TV would send me a private message about the service menu I would apprecitiate it. I am in the process of trying to fix the picture and have yet to be able to do it.

Thanks, Pete

Originally posted by Amigo-2k
where can we get an extended warranty from?

40 for 3 years, seems like a bargin.

I just bought one of the 3 years. They wanted to charge $4.xx for shipping. I called the 1-800 number, and the service rep was very helpful, researched it, and said it was a problem with the system. He held the line till I made the purchase, and then I gave him my order # and he refunded the $5.xx (with tax) back to my credit card. VERY good experience. Let's hope that filing a claim will be just as easy when it comes time.

Originally posted by troutguy
Ok, this is my first post, so don't shoot the messenger.

I just got back from my local Super Wal-Mart and the Electronics Manager told me that the Sanyo HT30744 is no longer going to be carried by Wal-Mart. This came as a complete surprise to me, because I was able to pick up one from them just last week (they had 3 come in the night before and I kept calling them about it).

I have been snooping on this post for awhile and I just decided to jump in. It has taken me about 20 hours to go through all of the posts (and I have yet to finish) and I still am trying to figure out everything on this TV. It looks good, but I am no expert.

So going back to the manager story.... he said that Sanyo can not keep up with Wal-Mart's demand and so Wal-Mart dropped the item. Supposedly, there are still some in the pipeline, but that will be it. He had one left to come in and has four people waiting to get their hands on it.

He also said that at the price of $562, that Wal-Mart was taking a 10% loss on the product. He then informed me that there are other electronics where the same hit was taking place. He said that Corporate were willing to take a Loss-Leader in order to get more traffic at each store because they mark up so much on other items.

Thats all I have.

PS. If someone who has this TV would send me a private message about the service menu I would apprecitiate it. I am in the process of trying to fix the picture and have yet to be able to do it.

Thanks, Pete


So does this affect the 32 inch model at all? I had planned on buying the 30 inch in a month or so, but If they dont have any more of them Id be willing to spend the extra hundred or so for the 32 incher. The other option of course is to take advantage of their buy now bill me later special right now, where your first payment isnt due until august. I could pay the shipping now, then pay it off long well before august comes around, it would just guarantee I got one. Im waiting on my paycheck in case you were wondering, job starts may 1st paycheck comes may 15th.

Originally posted by sterno3
Here is the 2 year (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=123960&dept=3944&product_id=2349395&path=0%3A3944%3A123960).

And the 3 Year (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?product_id=2349401&cat=123960&type=19&dept=3944&path=0%3A3944%3A123960&xsell=2349395).

So if I purchased it in August of last year, can I purchase the 3 year in July of 05? and then I'm covered until July or 08?

Originally posted by Drslump
So does this affect the 32 inch model at all? I had planned on buying the 30 inch in a month or so, but If they dont have any more of them Id be willing to spend the extra hundred or so for the 32 incher. The other option of course is to take advantage of their buy now bill me later special right now, where your first payment isnt due until august. I could pay the shipping now, then pay it off long well before august comes around, it would just guarantee I got one. Im waiting on my paycheck in case you were wondering, job starts may 1st paycheck comes may 15th.
Just put one on lay-away it only takes 10 % about 60 dollars.

Originally posted by Amigo-2k
So if I purchased it in August of last year, can I purchase the 3 year in July of 05? and then I'm covered until July or 08?

The service plans start right when the manufacturer's warranty is up. You'll be covered until August of 2008.

Originally posted by tmaster1
Just put one on lay-away it only takes 10 % about 60 dollars.

Ive never done lay away, whats the payment schedule like? and how long wil they hold it etc.?

Hi great forum and Info i have a couple of questions.

I recently went into WM and saw the 32" and said DAMN! and hdtv tuners too!

So i found this thread and wanted to clarify:

I have cable outa the wall no set up box, will the picture suck? Its expanded but i dont think digital or HD.
What can i expect?

I have a directTV dish on the house but not connected, any use?

I think i have a huge attenna on a tree outside will have to look.

I have a 10 year old toshiba 32"

Thx in advance!

I really liked the way the TV displayed SD. It really cleaned up the picture I was getting with basic cable. I plugged the cable into the digital side and was able to pick up all the HD local channels and many of the channels that were PPV, HBO, etc. I had to return it because of the geometry problems it had and on xbox games 720p was no different then 480p picture. Also sucked that you had to change the dash board to widescreen every time you had to play 720p games.

SERVICE PLAN

I just called the number for information about the plan and learned a couple things.

You may purchase the service plan for up to 90 days after you purchase the TV. All you have to do is purchase it online and save your online receipt for the plan along with your TV receipt.

I was also told that a 30" TV would be covered for in-home service if there were problems.

I think I'm sold on it for $40.

Originally posted by rman
I really liked the way the TV displayed SD. It really cleaned up the picture I was getting with basic cable. I plugged the cable into the digital side and was able to pick up all the HD local channels and many of the channels that were PPV, HBO, etc. I had to return it because of the geometry problems it had and on xbox games 720p was no different then 480p picture. Also sucked that you had to change the dash board to widescreen every time you had to play 720p games.

So for gaming you would reccomend the 32 incher? Becuase while Im largely in favore of the 30 incher, gaming is a big part of what I do so its a very important factor for me.

Sanyo HT30744 30" (Canadian only as far as I can tell)

Ok, so this set does 1080i. What happens to all my xbox and gamecube games that support 720p and 480p. Will this set display these resolutions? or is that why the set is so inexpensive. If so, it seems it will be waste (in terms of HD quality) because the xbox will do widescreen, but the quality will only be marginally better than svideo. plus, since you have to set the res on the xbox (a new menu pop's up when the HD cable is connected) between 480p, 720p and 1080i, if the game doesn't support it the HD cable is essencially useless.

thoughts ? im worried about purchasing because almost all xbox games are done in 480p, a few are 720, but very very few are 1080i

edit : i noticed two/three posts up that someone mentioned 720/480. is the res natively supported on the set ?

Yes the TV displays 480p, 720p, and 1080i just fine. It upconverts everything to 1080i. Games in 480p (I don't own any 720 games) are SIGNIFICANTLY better looking than games through the s-video connection. You can set the dashboard to enable 480, 720, and 1080 output and it will output the best possible signal depending on the game (there are very few in 720p and none that I know of in 1080, most are in 480p). Some games have the capability of producing a widescreen picture. If you set the dashboard to widescreen, it will output the widescreen picture when supported, otherwise it will output the 4:3 picture. However, the widescreen picture signal is compressed into 4:3 so you just have to change the TV's picture shape from "normal" to "full" with the press of a button. There is no need to change the dashboard settings at any time once you have them set for the TV.

oh that is absolutely excellent. you'd think sanyo would have that on their site (supports 480/720 upscaling or something to that effect for us newbies)

ok, ive made up my mind. and if it messes up, thank god walmart will take anything back :p

i haven't been able to find another tube in the 26-32 catagory for under 1000, with most 30's in the 1499 range.


77pages was far too much to go through, thanks for the help :D

Originally posted by Drslump
Ive never done lay away, whats the payment schedule like? and how long wil they hold it etc.?

You have 60 to90 days depending on the store to get it out and you can make payments anyway you like. Carry the receipt with you and you can make payments at any register. I have bought 2 of the 30" that way.

Originally posted by Drslump
Ive never done lay away, whats the payment schedule like? and how long wil they hold it etc.?

You have 60 to90 days depending on the store to get it out and you can make payments anyway you like. Carry the receipt with you and you can make payments at any register. I have bought 2 of the 30" that way.

Originally posted by tmaster1
You have 60 to90 days depending on the store to get it out and you can make payments anyway you like. Carry the receipt with you and you can make payments at any register. I have bought 2 of the 30" that way.

Thanks for the Idea and the help. It sounds like that will work just fine since in just about 30 days Ill ahve my pay check.

Another note is that if the price drops after you have put it on layaway (if it goes on clearance for instance), you are entitled to the lower price.

Originally posted by Justin_P
I have a couple questions maybe you guys with a little more knowledge might be able to help.

First I have noticed on the far left of my screen what looks like two vertical lines that are a tad brighter than the rest of the screen. It happens on all signals. Any idea what might cause this or how to fix it? I adjusted overscan down to 3-5% on the sides, and had to move the picture a little to the right. I also adjusted some geometry on the sides. Do you think one of these adjustments could have caused my problem. This is really bugging me.

Second I have a slight bow on the bottom and top of the screens any idea what number in the service menu will correct this. I couldn't find it looking at the manual.

Third my right side of the screen is a tad darker than the left is this fixable?

And finally this is a really stupid question but can you converge a single tube TV like a CRT projector? I wouldn't think you wouldn't need too since there is only one tube but my far right and left edges look like they need converged.

I quoted the old post from Justin_P because I got the similar problem here. After I noticed the big overscan of my Sanyo HT27744, I went to service manual and fixed the overscan but then I notice there are 2 brighter lines on the left side of my screen which never go away.

Maybe the factory made the overscan on purpose to hide this problem?

Could you more experienced people help?
Thanks.

Originally posted by Launchpad
SERVICE PLAN

I just called the number for information about the plan and learned a couple things.

You may purchase the service plan for up to 90 days after you purchase the TV. All you have to do is purchase it online and save your online receipt for the plan along with your TV receipt.

I was also told that a 30" TV would be covered for in-home service if there were problems.

I think I'm sold on it for $40.
Thanks for the heads up on the 90 days rule. It wasn't noted anywhere on the website (or conditions of the warranty--that I read at least). I bought my TV almost a year ago, so the warranty wouldn't have applied. I thought that I would have time to buy it while the original manufacturer's warranty was in force. Unfortanely that is not the case...:confused:

o well

Originally posted by Blain
Hi great forum and Info i have a couple of questions.

I recently went into WM and saw the 32" and said DAMN! and hdtv tuners too!

So i found this thread and wanted to clarify:

I have cable outa the wall no set up box, will the picture suck? Its expanded but i dont think digital or HD.
What can i expect?

I have a directTV dish on the house but not connected, any use?

I think i have a huge attenna on a tree outside will have to look.

I have a 10 year old toshiba 32"

Thx in advance!

Anyone??

Originally posted by Launchpad
SERVICE PLAN

I just called the number for information about the plan and learned a couple things.

You may purchase the service plan for up to 90 days after you purchase the TV. All you have to do is purchase it online and save your online receipt for the plan along with your TV receipt.

I was also told that a 30" TV would be covered for in-home service if there were problems.

I think I'm sold on it for $40.

I questioned the requirement to purchase the service plan within 90 days of purchasing the TV, and read through Description at the URLs already posted, then the Terms and Conditions link (http://i.walmart.com/i/rb/4045.pdf) and couldn't find it there either. I DIDN'T buy it within the 90 days, "knowing" it could be purchased in the first year (Mfg parts & labor period). Actually, it doesn't go into effect until 30 days after you purchase it so it might be better to do so a month before the mfg warranty expires. That ASSUMES it doesn't have to be purchased within 90 days. I don't know if it does / doesn't.

One item in the T & C that bothers me is:

This Plan will terminate if Your Product is replaced with a new Product or a check for the original Product purchase price on the receipt, not including tax, or voucher, or cash card.

Does this mean that if the TV is replaced after the initial year Mfg warranty, the remainder of the 2 or 3 year term of the service plan is toast? As long as they decide to repair (and not replace) the unit, the coverage continues for the initial plan duration. If you buy the TV, buy the Plan, and then take the TV back to WalMart to "repurchase it at the new lower price" or even an replacement with a new working unit, is the service plan voided?

According to the T & C, you may be required to also produce a copy of the T & C, in addition to two receipts:

Instructions: Print this sheet and Your e-mail receipt for the Product; they are integral parts of the Plan and You may be required to produce them to obtain service or replacement.

I've only got questions, no answers.

Most service plans operate this way. Best Buy's is the same, the plan covers repairs, but when and if they replace the item all together the plan is considered satisfied and your service plan coverage terminates. However, I'm not too sure about returning and repurchasing for a lower price.

Originally posted by Drslump
So for gaming you would reccomend the 32 incher? Becuase while Im largely in favore of the 30 incher, gaming is a big part of what I do so its a very important factor for me.

I would not recommend the Sanyo for xbox gaming after having seen the games on a Sony. Like I said I could not tell the difference between 480P and 720p, on the other sets I tried...the difference between 480p and 720p were night and day. Also I would never buy a wide screen TV for gaming if it's used mostly for gaming on a Xbox, PS2, Gamecube. IMO a 4:3 game on a widescreen looks bad and I can't tolerate it. But this is my opinion and everyones else my vary. Now that I remember this set had some three line of noise with the xbox that was not very visible, but once you saw it...they were easy to see. Also color shifts when playing hokey games, you can see faint red, blue and green colors on the white ice. too many problems with this set, but it was the best at SD! Going to try the Sony 36xs955 next.

Originally posted by Launchpad
Yes the TV displays 480p, 720p, and 1080i just fine. It upconverts everything to 1080i. Games in 480p (I don't own any 720 games) are SIGNIFICANTLY better looking than games through the s-video connection. You can set the dashboard to enable 480, 720, and 1080 output and it will output the best possible signal depending on the game (there are very few in 720p and none that I know of in 1080, most are in 480p). Some games have the capability of producing a widescreen picture. If you set the dashboard to widescreen, it will output the widescreen picture when supported, otherwise it will output the 4:3 picture. However, the widescreen picture signal is compressed into 4:3 so you just have to change the TV's picture shape from "normal" to "full" with the press of a button. There is no need to change the dashboard settings at any time once you have them set for the TV.

The TV does display 720p, but it does a terrible job of converting the signal IMO. No doubt that the games look great in 480p compared to Svideo, but MVP 2005 and other 720p games don't look much better as they should blow you away and it does blow me away on the 36" Toshiba HDTV I have at the moment. If you set your dash board to widescreen and play widescreen games like Halo2 (game looks great on the Sanyo too) it will look good. But if you leave it set on widescreen and play a game that is 4:3 (and there are a ton of them) the will look screwed, not scewed, but screwed.:p

Blain,

I'll try answering...

As for the cable out of the wall, I assume this is standard analog cable?

If so, this is what I have contected to my set (HT30744) for now and the image is a bit better than my old 21 inch TV. It's still analog so it won't look a whole lot better than on any other set. So, don't judge this set based on the difference you see with your old Toshiba... you probably won't see too much.

I origianlly wanted to get the 32 inch version becasue most of the stuff I/we watch on TV now is still 4:3, other than DVDs. But I'm glad I got the 30 inch, 16:9 instead. I notice more and more shows and commercials are being broadcasted in 16:9 (or thereabouts). They were probably all like that before I got the TV but I'm only noticing it now ;)

As for the tree antenna and/or the directTV dish, I'm pretty sure you could make use of one of these to get some HD channels, which would look awesome. Unfortunately, up here in Canada, my tuner is as useful as tits on a bull :)

I bought a 30" and am very pleased with it so far. It has a big scratch on the front case so I'll probably be returning it for replacement (what a pain) but other than that it's great.

I have a question about the HDMI input. I would like to get an adapter for my DVI video card to connect my PC to the TV but I'm not sure if I should go with DVI to component or DVI to HDMI. I read that HDMI is better, but I'm concerned because the DVI from my video card will obviously not include audio. If I go with the HDMI, how can I connect audio to the TV?

Thanks so much guys, this thread has been a ton of help.

You connect audio from your audio out on your sound card to the component 3 audio jack when using an HDMI to DVI cable. I'm using a DVI to HDMI cable for my computer to watch DVDs and it looks good. I'm just using my computer's 4.1 system for sound, so I don't even have audio plugged in to the TV.

Sorry to bump, but I know some one has this info ?

I need to do few things in the service menu.

Red push. What items and values have been used ?

Are there adjustable setting for the presets in the menu setup, Currently you can only set the "manual" for bright ,hue,con, sharp. I would assume that there are adjustments for the "Normal, News and Movie" settings.
I have adjusted these items in my Sony in the service menu with great success.


Thanks

I recently purchased a Samsung DVD-HD850 HDTV compatible player and hooked it up to the HT30744 via HDMI cable, which was included with the player. There is a huge improvement in the image compared to my old Panasonic player. And the Dolby Digital audio is output via the optical digital cable to my A/V receiver. Not only is the cabling much simpler, the same input setting on my receiver is used for OTA HD and DVD sound. I highly recommend upgrading to this type of player with HDMI. I am still amazed at the quality of the image on this TV! What a value!

I want to buy the sanyo and the Oppo DV971H but i noticed that the Oppo doesn't have HDMI and doesn't send a progressive signal through component. hence i'll need a dvi-hdmi converter???

can anyone recommend one? i saw one on amazon from startech for $19.99. is that any good?

amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002GRUIC/qid=1113680874/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3_etk-electronics/103-3047653-8706232?v=glance&s=electronics&n=172282

btw: i know nothing about home theater and i'm not sure if i'm making sense...thanks!

Buy from mashy76 on ebay... He sells cheap ones (usually 10 dollars shipped) and they still work great.

Where can I get a high-bandwidth coax splitter? The one I have tried to use to connect my cable to the digital in of the tv and also to the cable box is up to 2150mhz, but when using it the tv has problems finding channels. I looked outside my house and the cable company is using 2 different splitters that both go up to 5000mhz, so I know they're available, but radio shack doesn't have them.

Note:

1. I realize that 5000mhz is 5Ghz.
2. The first outside splitter sends one output to my cable modem. The other output goes into the second splitter.
2. I intend to get my cable co to remove the second splitter, which should help clean things up. I want to do the split inside the house anyway, because I have always sent the output of my cable box to two tv's.

Originally posted by kevbeck122
Buy from mashy76 on ebay... He sells cheap ones (usually 10 dollars shipped) and they still work great.
so if the TV has HDMI and the DVD has DVI and I have a DVI cable, which adapter do i need: DVI female to HDMI male or DVI male to HDMI female??? i don't know!!!

DVI female to HDMI male

I have the 32" and have no problems to date. Have had it for a little more than a month. Tried finding a 30" version and ended up taking it back when it wouldn't produce a picture. Had to rap on the set to "jump start" it. :rolleyes:
Called up the local WalterWorld and asked if they had received the one they had on order yet. They hadn't and said the Sanyo HD line had been discontinued ( at that store anyways) and if the new set doesn't get there soon, they'd sell the display. I called them on Thursday and stopped by Saturday to see what the progress was. The display had vanished and no one new anything about receiving another "new" set. Oh well, guess it's just another sign to keep the 32". ;)

Originally posted by kevbeck122
DVI female to HDMI male
thanks!!!

I finally got a 720p xbox game. Xmen legends looks awesome on the TV. I can definitely see an improvement over the picture quality of Halo2. I'm very pleased with all of the gaming I've done on this TV.

Originally posted by rickforrest
[B]Where can I get a high-bandwidth coax splitter?

Not necessary... for cable (TV and broadband), 1 GHz is more than sufficient.

Anyone used that set for anime (interlaced material)? If so, how does it performs?

Just bought the TV today (build date June 2004!!!!). I have a time warner cable line into the TV w/o a box. newbie questions:

1. It says 1080i but it doesn't look like it...looks more like 480 dtv. I'm receiving an HDTV signal from the WB channel and was watching Jack&Bobby which was supposedly filmed in HDTV but the picture did not look like HD (info button said 1920*1080 (60I)). The picture was good but was definitely not HD. It was 16x9 and only borders on top and bottom, not on the sides like when you have SD content sent over an HD signal (postage stamp). Do i have to do something to the TV to have it show HD???

2. Noticed that the OTA HD picture seems reddish as opposed to my cable picture. I did a PAP with the same show and there's a huge difference. How do I adjust only the OTA HD red hue???

3. Doesn't seem like i can get QAM HD channels from time warner. I guess they don't provide unscrambled HD channels for NewYorkCity, correct?

Thanks guys...this forum rocks...

Originally posted by blizzard64
I was not clear on what clear QAM is, so I called Sanyo today & I'll try and clarify it. Simply put, if you have satellite service you don't need QAM enabled. If you have cable, you should get it enabled so you can watch HD & digital channels without a set-top box (assuming your cable company hasn't scrambled these channels).

Regarding the "barrel roll" that many are talking about. I just purchased the HT30744 a week ago & noticed the same problem. To fix it I went to the menu of my HD receiver & changed the screen setting/format. It was set to PANORAMIC, and that was causing the problem.
How do you enable QAM???

I thought the TV came with it enabled. Maybe this is why i can't get HD from my cable line w/o a box. thanks!!

You need the cable line hooked up to the HD coax input, then in the menu there's an option for digital cable search which takes around 5-10 minutes. Time Warner here only offers local HDs and iN Demand preview channels unencrypted.

Have you tried any other shows in HD? Some stations might have switching issues at times where they forget to switch to HD and you'll get the SD feed... that or it's just the fact these TVs are only 30/32 inches... you aren't getting the full HD experience, especially if you're sitting far from the TV (like 10+ feet).

Originally posted by kevbeck122
You need the cable line hooked up to the HD coax input, then in the menu there's an option for digital cable search which takes around 5-10 minutes. Time Warner here only offers local HDs and iN Demand preview channels unencrypted.

Have you tried any other shows in HD? Some stations might have switching issues at times where they forget to switch to HD and you'll get the SD feed... that or it's just the fact these TVs are only 30/32 inches... you aren't getting the full HD experience, especially if you're sitting far from the TV (like 10+ feet).
Yeah, i tried the digital cable search..did take over 5 minutes...found nothing...maybe i'll try it again...

right now i'm watching desperate housewives. it shows "Digital 07-1 WABC-HD 1280x720 (60P)" on the info. although it's 16x9 and clean, the pic is definitely not HD...more like regualr dtv. I'm sitting 7 feet from it. Something is wrong...maybe cause TV was built in June 2004 and I bought it today. Does walmart resell customer returns???

ok ive had the HT30744 for serval months now but my cable company doesnt offer hdtv yet, but i did a search and found out that their are 7 free over the air channels. so what i need to know is can i still get those 7 hdtv channels if i bought an anntena or does my cable company have to offer the service first? thanx guys

Originally posted by sabt

right now i'm watching desperate housewives. it shows "Digital 07-1 WABC-HD 1280x720 (60P)" on the info. although it's 16x9 and clean, the pic is definitely not HD...more like regualr dtv. I'm sitting 7 feet from it. Something is wrong...maybe cause TV was built in June 2004 and I bought it today. Does walmart resell customer returns???

This TV is only 30" - you are not going to be blown away by it's HD picture. Maybe if you sat 3 feet away from it.

You are probably getting an HD signal all right, but the 30" CRT physical resolution does not offer anywhere near the picture detail of HDTV. You should see the best color accuracy you have seen, no noise, a few MPEG artifacts and the best resolution your TV has to offer.

Still, it must be a great picture for a $562 TV.

$562??? mine is the 32" and I paid $697...did i get ripped off??? i have sat 3ft from it...no different than regular satellite TV...i guess i was hoping for HDTV like the 32" Sony's I've seen...

Also, how do you adjust the reddish hue for the OTA HD signal??? The OTA HD signal is very red as opposed to the analog cable which is more neutral...

^^ The 30" is $562... the 32" is still going for what you paid.

Originally posted by Budget_HT
You are probably getting an HD signal all right, but the 30" CRT physical resolution does not offer anywhere near the picture detail of HDTV. You should see the best color accuracy you have seen, no noise, a few MPEG artifacts and the best resolution your TV has to offer.

Still, it must be a great picture for a $562 TV.

Yeah the picture is great for the price. I try not to spoil myself by looking at the bigger sets at electronics stores, so I'm still happy with it. It's in my bedroom, so I don't sit very far from it either.

Originally posted by Ratman
Not necessary... for cable (TV and broadband), 1 GHz is more than sufficient.

Are you also including digital cable and HDTV over cable in that recommendation?

And why would the cable company be using 5ghz splitters when they
could use something cheaper?

thanks.

Originally posted by kevbeck122
You need the cable line hooked up to the HD coax input, then in the menu there's an option for digital cable search which takes around 5-10 minutes. Time Warner here only offers local HDs and iN Demand preview channels unencrypted.

Have you tried any other shows in HD? Some stations might have switching issues at times where they forget to switch to HD and you'll get the SD feed... that or it's just the fact these TVs are only 30/32 inches... you aren't getting the full HD experience, especially if you're sitting far from the TV (like 10+ feet).
I tried the digital cable search and this time IT WORKED!!! i did exactly the same thing as the first time...now i get a bunch of channels....

I'm watching Discovery HD and it definitely looks like HD...the other network HD channels do not look like HD...why is that???

thanks kevbeck122 for your tremendous help!!!!!

Originally posted by ksoutheard
ok ive had the HT30744 for serval months now but my cable company doesnt offer hdtv yet, but i did a search and found out that their are 7 free over the air channels. so what i need to know is can i still get those 7 hdtv channels if i bought an anntena or does my cable company have to offer the service first? thanx guys
forget the cable service....
you can buy a regular UHF antenna and receive it over the air. in fact, a regular VHF antenna would work too...That's what I used and I was getting CBS, FOX, ABC, and WB. I live 11 miles from the empire state building and my apt doesn't even have face manhattan, only connecticut...i was surprised.

Also for those complaining about HD quality, here is my experience and opinion.

Some shows look much better than others. Almost all live shows look really good - examples are concerts on PBS, NASCAR , Jay Leno, and American Idol. On the other hand, I didn't think the quality of the NCAA basketball tournament looked that great on this set.

Film based shows don't look as great - especially the crime dramas. I'm not sure why that is, but it varies from show to show. The comedies on CBS generally look good though.

For me, the big improvement on this set was just the widescreen format for DVD viewing and the crystal clear digital reception capabilities. Since I don't have cable, this was a pretty nice feature for me.

It's a great set for the money, but really not the way to show off HD capabilities. The sets I want are still in the $3000 range though, so I settled on this one for the time being.

Originally posted by rickforrest
Are you also including digital cable and HDTV over cable in that recommendation?

And why would the cable company be using 5ghz splitters when they
could use something cheaper?

thanks.

Yes...

Who knows?

sabt,

Did you try out the DVI->HDMI yet? I have the LG DV7832NXC (Zenith DVB318) DVD player and haven't heard of anyone who got DVI->HDMI working. I was under the impression that this was an industry wide issue as other people with different DVD players were not getting this to work either. I'd be interested to know if you get this working. (Problem was that the DVD player would freeze)

HDMI->HDMI seems to work, DVI-DVI seems to work, and DVI-I (PC) -> HDMI also seems to work.

I've got a Samsung DVD-HD841 hooked up through DVI->HDMI, to my 30", and haven't had any problems with it at all, knock on wood.

I have my Time Warner STB plugged in using a DVI-D to HDMI cable and have had no problems except for the bugginess of the software on the box (since DVI is not officially supported yet by Time Warner here). I also use that cable to hook up to my computer when watching DVDs.

Originally posted by Mako22
sabt,

Did you try out the DVI->HDMI yet? I have the LG DV7832NXC (Zenith DVB318) DVD player and haven't heard of anyone who got DVI->HDMI working. I was under the impression that this was an industry wide issue as other people with different DVD players were not getting this to work either. I'd be interested to know if you get this working. (Problem was that the DVD player would freeze)

HDMI->HDMI seems to work, DVI-DVI seems to work, and DVI-I (PC) -> HDMI also seems to work.
not yet. I'm hesitant in purchasing that supposedly awesome Oppo dvp71h dvd player or any player with only a dvi output since i've read that people have had problems with dvi-hdmi. does this mean i have to buy the panny s97 or the samsung 941 or any upscaler player with hdmi??? that would suck!!!

Mako22, i'm assuming your dvi-hdmi is not working either???

Originally posted by seezar
Originally posted by Launchpad
I am guessing that the cable companies were not too happy about the QAM tuner and flexed their monetary muscles to get it removed from the set. They want the consumer to have to pay for the digital box in order to receive the digital channels. This would also explain the limited availability recently if Sanyo was making changes. This is all purely speculation of course.

FWIW, I just bought a 30" on Saturday and it has the QAM tuner. However, they had just received new ones (setup DVD included) and I bought an older one (no DVD).

I dont necessarily think that getting the DVD indicates if it is a newer or older set, per se. I just recently bought a 32" and it does come with the QAM tuner and the setup DVD but the manufacturer date is June 2004.

same here: june 2004 w/ dvd and qam enabled - bought on april 17

Originally posted by RebelWax
I just purchased the 30" Sanyo and i noticed that when in "FULL" sceen mode that there is a slight "compressed" look to the left and right edges of the screen. You can only really notice it when a camera pans from left to right. I was wondering if there's anything in the service menu to adjust this or is this just normal? Here's a small example of what i mean.

4:3 mode
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16:9 mode
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If there is something in the menu to adjust this can someone point me to what it is? I looked at the menu and it's pretty cryptic. Don't want to touch much in there.

Thanks
I've got the opposite:
16x9 mode
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which number is the overscan in the service menu? or do i have to adjust vertical and horizontal size independently???

also barrel roll:
16x9
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______-----------______

how the hell do you correct that???

oh well...still not too bad for $697+tax

Originally posted by sabt

I'm watching Discovery HD and it definitely looks like HD...the other network HD channels do not look like HD...why is that???

I've noticed that Discovery channel and the PBS digital channels have the best looking HD broadcast of all channels.

Your clear QAM tuner in enabled if your serial # starts with V4, which indicates it was built in 2004.
Those that start with V5, built in 2005, the tuner is disabled.

Mako22, i'm assuming your dvi-hdmi is not working either???

Right, I had jumped through hoops with LG support and other ideas I read on forums but was never successful.

I'm very happy to see that other people actually have this working with other players. It must be a firmware issue with the LG DV7832NXC (Zenith DVB318) DVD player.

FWIW, I tried the Monster adapter with an HDMI->HDMI cable, and DVI-HDMI cable, making sure the TV was on first and/or the DVD was playing first, I didn't have Component attached at the same time, and other possibilities without success. DVI-I from PC to HDMI on my Sanyo HT30744 works fine though.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to "find a solution" in this thread, I've posted in the DVB318 thread. I just wanted to give a heads up.

sabt, as it looks, this might be just a problem with some players and not industry wide (DVB318 for one, and I remember other players had this problem too, so just be aware). I definitely would've preferred to use HDMI instead of Component (for cabling reasons) so don't give up on it.

Can someone explain this to me from the spec sheets?

Picture Resolution
330 lines/antenna input
800 lines/video input



Does that mean we should notice a much clearer HD picture using an external tuner?



Also, the website does confirm what we know about this being discontinued:

Available now at Wal-Mart Supercenter's HDTV displays for a limited time (out of production).

For all those who have a V5 set with the QAM tuner disabled. I contacted Sanyo Service and they sent me a cable and a cd and I was able to enable the QAM tuner using my PC. Just call Sanyo Service and ask for the QAM upgrade and they can help you out.


John

hello, i know this is out of no where, but if anyone has a spare box for the tv, 30 or 32" i'm sure it won't matter, i need to make a return but i think mine has been thrown away. If there are any that can do me the favor, i will pay you through paypal or money order for shipping/inconvinience if there is any help it would be much appreciated to PM or email at tomw05@aol.com. will kick in an extra $5 or so if wanted. thanks

Don't think you need the box to make a return at the Wally Mart.

are you sure about this? I checked their return policy and it stated on the website that item must be in original box with included accessories..but if anyone else has ever returned anything without it, please let me know. Thanks

Originally posted by Shink
Can someone explain this to me from the spec sheets?

Picture Resolution
330 lines/antenna input
800 lines/video input



Does that mean we should notice a much clearer HD picture using an external tuner?



Also, the website does confirm what we know about this being discontinued:

Available now at Wal-Mart Supercenter's HDTV displays for a limited time (out of production).

I just talked to Sanyo support. They informed me that the television displays 330 lines of resolution through UHF/VHF (not the digital antenna) input and 800 lines through the Video input. He told me that any high definition signal is upconverted and displayed at 1080i. So, your HD picture should look the same whether through the internal tuner or an external tuner because both are high definition signals.

I also noticed that a 28" widescreen and a 27" HDTV tube are both listed as "available soon at wal-mart" on the Sanyo website.

Originally posted by xt14
are you sure about this? I checked their return policy and it stated on the website that item must be in original box with included accessories..but if anyone else has ever returned anything without it, please let me know. Thanks

Oh, website returns and store returns might be different. I never even took my box home from Walmart - sorry.

Originally posted by Launchpad
I just talked to Sanyo support. They informed me that the television displays 330 lines of resolution through UHF/VHF (not the digital antenna) input and 800 lines through the Video input.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

Originally posted by xt14
hello, i know this is out of no where, but if anyone has a spare box for the tv, 30 or 32" i'm sure it won't matter, i need to make a return but i think mine has been thrown away. If there are any that can do me the favor, i will pay you through paypal or money order for shipping/inconvinience if there is any help it would be much appreciated to PM or email at tomw05@aol.com. will kick in an extra $5 or so if wanted. thanks
if you're returning it because your TV is not working properly then i don't think you need the box. Just tell them that you want to exchange for a TV that works properly. If they don't have any Sanyos left, then, oh well....

yeah, well it was a store order, i'm not looking for an exchange, but a return, i'll give them a call and see what i can do about it. either way if there is anyone still who would have a box, please let me know. Thanks

Originally posted by xt14
yeah, well it was a store order, i'm not looking for an exchange, but a return, i'll give them a call and see what i can do about it. either way if there is anyone still who would have a box, please let me know. Thanks

Maybe if you posted your geographic location, it would help. If you are any place close to Sacramento, CA, I've got a box for you. Shipping an empty box to FL or NY doesn't make much sense to me. Especially if WM will take it back w/o the box.

Originally posted by Launchpad

I also noticed that a 28" widescreen and a 27" HDTV tube are both listed as "available soon at wal-mart" on the Sanyo website.

I just looked and noticed that the upcoming 27" and 28" end in 745 instead of 744 and don't have HDMI. It would appear that all units now come with a newer remote that have Guide and Enter buttons for satellite recievers. If you back up about 30 pages, that was a complaint about the older remotes so one could probably just buy a new remote if they wanted that enough. The 3x744 also show that remote function so I'm curious what someone with a V5 serial # has on the very bottom of the remote. My older remote says
Sanyo
FXYA
Dunno if FXYA is a remote "model number" but if newer V5 sets say FXYB, I'd know what I need.

I have a 30" model with a V5 serial and it says "FXYA" - sorry.

My remote has FXYA on the bottom, and it has guide and enter buttons. Unfortunately, they don't work with my cable box.

edit: Mine is a V4 manufactured September of last year I believe.

My 30" Widescreen is V5 and Remote reads FXYA under SANYO logo. Remote has Guide and Enter buttons.
Mike

I must have misread the info for the different models. At http://www.sanyo.com/entertainment/televisions/digital/ the three 744 models explicitly state

Upgraded features include: Guide and Enter keys for satellite systems

My old remote has Guide and Enter keys but Guide does nothing for the DISH satellite receiver. The Menu key does display the Guide but I thought there might be some new upgraded remote version that mapped the Guide, Menu, Exit, ... buttons to the right thing. I guess not.

The description for the xx745 models no longer mention the Guide & Enter keys.

Originally posted by finger11
supposedly this fits it perfectly. ill gonna pick one up in a month or so when i move.

http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=12&productId=42127&langId=-1&parentCats=10104*10174
anyone find a stand higher than 18" within the same price range?

ok, thanks for the info on the walmart return, they said it "should" be no problem without the box so i'll take it back tomorrow and we'll see what happens.

In regards to this thread, what would be the better TV set?

Sanyo-HT30744

or the

Philips-30PW8402

Sanyo picture is superior, but the geometric distortion is not present in the Philips.

I bought my first 30" sanyo on Jan 1 - Had the sides squished in, but the picture was so good I loved it - lasted about 1 month. I overscanned the image and it did 'straighten' but then the people were 'wide'. Bugged me too much. My son came to visit and was so impressed with how the wide screen showed the curvurature of the camera lens on the sides.

Found a replacement after a few weeks search ( march). ManufactureDate on the new one was July - it had better geometry, but 'banged' when it turned on. ( startled my wife in the kitchen.)

Found a replacement in two weeks and its manufacture date was June - very bad geometry and picture is not as clear as the first two.

Definitely are 'RECYCLED' units not 'new' - packaging was sloppy - the plastic wrap stuff.


The 32" looks great in the store, but my wife doesn't want the 'old' square tv set.

I am hoping they come out with a replacement model, but may end up finding a sony.

Ok i just got the HT30744 and everything is fine, including no tilt or any other issues. I bought the offical *XBOX* MS hi-def pack and the colors are EXTREMELY washed out... any ideas?

EDIT: Looks like the problem is either the red connectors on the back of the tv, or the red connector of my xbox hi-def pack.

EDIT: I fixed the problem, it was so stupid I will not even post the problem solution. LOL

Originally posted by dwemett

I am hoping they come out with a replacement model, but may end up finding a sony.

It does appear that they are coming out with a replacement set, but it will be 28" and not 30" - see the link here (http://www.sanyo.com/entertainment/televisions/digital/index.cfm?productID=1116)

Originally posted by Shink
It does appear that they are coming out with a replacement set, but it will be 28" and not 30" - see the link here (http://www.sanyo.com/entertainment/televisions/digital/index.cfm?productID=1116)

Besides no mention of QAM tuning, the web site is inconsistent on whether there is an HDMI input or not.

Hopefully this new set will be able to receive QAM, even if the buyer has to request and install the upgrade from Sanyo.

not sure about the hdmi, but as far as making a new 30 inch, for now they are not, the previous posters are correct, i talked to tech support from sanyo the other day and they informed me that they would only be making the 28 inch widescreen right now since the 30 has been discontinued.

Originally posted by xt14
not sure about the hdmi, but as far as making a new 30 inch, for now they are not, the previous posters are correct, i talked to tech support from sanyo the other day and they informed me that they would only be making the 28 inch widescreen right now since the 30 has been discontinued.

Why would they replace a 30" with a 28" 16:9? I was under the impression the 30" and 32" was staying.

I have the 32" Sanyo already and looking for a 27"-30" for another room. Should I pick up a 30" Sanyo while I still can or wait for the new 27 or 28" model? How does the picture of the 30" widescreen compare to the 32" for SDTV?

Originally posted by hardwired
Why would they replace a 30" with a 28" 16:9?

They are not able to keep up with demand making the larger sets. I think Walmart forced their hand on this one.

I also noticed that new Sanyos have a 3-line digital comb filter, whereas the 32" and 30" have an excellent 3D digital comb filter that is better than the one in my TOTL (at the time) JVC S-VHS VCR.

I actually only ever need it for analog OTA since all of my other sources are s-video or component video, but still it's nice to have when someone comes over and connects their camcorder, Gamecube, etc. to my AV pre-amp's front panel input.

FWIW, I got my 32" in November and have had zero problems. I feel sorry for the people with lemons because this really is a great TV when working as designed.

I finally had a chance to try out the clear-QAM tuner when I upgraded to cable high speed internet but unfortunately my cable company puts a trap on the line when you don't subscribe to any of their TV services (I'm a Dish Network customer and ain't giving up my no-monthly-fee PVR). That sucks but I am getting HD PBS and ABC from OTA and should get HD FOX, CBS, and NBC soon when my locals start broadcasting at full power.

Originally posted by Shink
They are not able to keep up with demand making the larger sets. I think Walmart forced their hand on this one.

There wasn't a big demand for the 30" 16:9 and it was discontinued.

There was (and I assume continues to be) a demand for the 32" 4:3 and it is does NOT say discontinued at the Sanyo site.

See mahicks post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5272352#post5272352

Originally posted by mahicks
The 32" TV is in the company's top 200 for dept. 5
The 30" is not..I'm sure that this, along with a possible supplier credit or "kick back" is the reason this item is on Rollback. It's also a safe bet to say that it might be replaced, not necessarily with another Sanyo 30" but with another item that offers the same value for our customers. I don't think alot of people realize that we lose margin on alot of Rollback items.

Most of this is a good educated guess, even if I knew the complete answer, to be honest I don't think I'd be able to tell you. It would be confidential information.

Originally posted by bhenley
There wasn't a big demand for the 30" 16:9 and it was discontinued.

See mahicks post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5272352#post5272352

Other posters have
claimed the opposite (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5469384#post5469384) :


So going back to the manager story.... he said that Sanyo can not keep up with Wal-Mart's demand and so Wal-Mart dropped the item. Supposedly, there are still some in the pipeline, but that will be it. He had one left to come in and has four people waiting to get their hands on it.

He also said that at the price of $562, that Wal-Mart was taking a 10% loss on the product. He then informed me that there are other electronics where the same hit was taking place. He said that Corporate were willing to take a Loss-Leader in order to get more traffic at each store because they mark up so much on other items.



Please realize that an item doesn't have to be a top 200 seller to be in high demand. You can only sell the stock you have on hand, so if it's true that Sanyo couldn't keep up with demand, it's understandable that they would switch to a smaller set that might be easier for them to produce.

I know I, for one, had a hard time tracking down one of these bad boys. Finally found one in a Walmart on a Reservation.

Originally posted by hardwired

I have the 32" Sanyo already and looking for a 27"-30" for another room. Should I pick up a 30" Sanyo while I still can or wait for the new 27 or 28" model? How does the picture of the 30" widescreen compare to the 32" for SDTV?

The 30" and 32" display nearly the identical picture size for widescreen material. If you are watching SD 4:3, the 32" display is about 170% of the area of the 30" display.

http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi will show/compare the display dimensions for whatever size and aspect ratio you select.

Originally posted by Shink

Please realize that an item doesn't have to be a top 200 seller to be in high demand. You can only sell the stock you have on hand, so if it's true that Sanyo couldn't keep up with demand, it's understandable that they would switch to a smaller set that might be easier for them to produce.

I know I, for one, had a hard time tracking down one of these bad boys. Finally found one in a Walmart on a Reservation.

The 32" is in higher demand than the 30" and it isn't being discontinued (at least yet). Locally, one WalMart only stocked and displayed the 30", another only carried the 32", and a 3rd carried both but only displayed the 30". What one store manager sees may be quite different from the next.

IF you assume Sanyo couldn't keep up with demand, it is understandable they would switch. There is no reason to make that assumption though. If you assume lots of other things, it is understandable they would switch too. Like they want a lower price point for the xx745 units, the 30" was less desireable than the 32" and they had started them at the same price, ...

Originally posted by bhenley
The 32" is in higher demand than the 30" and it isn't being discontinued (at least yet).

I imagine the 32" is going to be discontinued too - they haven't mentioned an xxx745 model that's 32". I'm also not trying to insinuate that the 32" set is in less demand than the 30" set. I just postulated that Sanyo wasn't able to keep up with the demand for the 30" set, and that's why it's being discontinued. That info came second hand - I'm not an insider at Walmart or Sanyo.

It makes sense on some level, but it's strange logic. You'd figure if you don't have the supply to meet the demand, you would realize that your product is underpriced.

Originally posted by Shink

It makes sense on some level, but it's strange logic. You'd figure if you don't have the supply to meet the demand, you would realize that your product is underpriced.

Even stranger to me how WalMart stocked the xx744s. One store had neither, but several other HDs. I don't have a "Superstore" so each store seemed to pick and choose if and which they carried.

I haven't gone looking for who has which in 7 months (when they dropped the price on both by $50). It was very hard to find stock then, or a couple months prior when I bought mine. Finding a 30" now is probably harder but there is no shortage of posts here about not being able to find either. I'd think the majority of the WM buyers of either model aren't reading this thread - they are walking through WM and looking at what is on display. I do think this thread has produced sales for WM, but I sure don't want that returning as a topic as it did in the original thread.

I too have no inside info for either company, just voicing opinion.

Originally posted by Shink
Other posters have
claimed the opposite (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5469384#post5469384) :




Please realize that an item doesn't have to be a top 200 seller to be in high demand. You can only sell the stock you have on hand, so if it's true that Sanyo couldn't keep up with demand, it's understandable that they would switch to a smaller set that might be easier for them to produce.

I know I, for one, had a hard time tracking down one of these bad boys. Finally found one in a Walmart on a Reservation.


I stand behind what I post as being accurate. At the time, I was making educated guesses. I now change my vote to exactly accurate.

I understand that everyone else is allowed their opinion and everyone can post what a manager at Wal-Mart told them. At the same time, please, understand that I am a Wal-Mart manager, and I'm giving you as accurate as information as I can. I wouldn't be setting a good example for my company by stating in public who I am and then not telling the truth would I??


Besides, if you pick the quoted portion of my post apart word by word, does it not seem accurate??

Look at Sanyos website, the proof of what I said would happen is right there.

Also, If he'd like, the Manager that said we were taking a 10% loss can PM me to have a gentlemens argument, because that is innacurate. The rest of that managers quote is pretty accurate though, especially for a rollback item, or any other business's exit strategy on a product.
FWIW, no retailer makes any, or very little on most TV sets. Thats just the nature of the technology market..........


HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just went back and read the post that you were talking about....I would really like to know who said that, since that the person that made the original post bought the TV from my home district. I could have an argument with a co-worker, LOL.

Hey I tried to skim this thread but couldn't find definitive comments.

I'm thinking about getting the HT30744 from a local Walmart.. this is the Sanyo 30".. it seems the general consensus is the picture looks great, but it seems there are some problems.

Should I shy away from this TV?

It would be primarily for Xbox/Xbox360/other console gaming.

some members have had problems with component connections w/ the Xbox while viewing DVD's with it. With the return policy, how can you beat not trying it? Worse case scenario, you lost a few hours time and a few calories taking the monster back to Wal-Mart. Isn't everyone trying to get in shape for the summer?? LOL

yeah, i've had two of this model of tv and haven't been impressed with either, the first had slight problems that average movie watchers/game players wouldn't pay much attention to, but the 2nd one had major flaws, other people haven't had any problems and have had a real enjoyable experience. I am going to have a try at a different TV. I ordered a samsung tx-p3075wh 30 inch. It cost me after tax a few dollars less than the sanyo, and has all the features minus HDMI (but includes DVI) and also displays 480p which the sanyo doesn't. Hopefully the picture hasn't been known to have problems with it like this set does. I've heard good about it, but I will just have to wait and see.

I guess I am lucky then. My TV doesn't have ANY tilt at all, I put on espn and put zoom 1, the top of the ticker is the same height all the way across. My component connections have been very good to me, I don't see any artifacts or lines at all, except a slight wavy motion that you only notice when within 1 foot of the TV. I also do not see any barrell roll at all.

You are very lucky - most people here with the 30" set have barrel roll, and every one I've looked at in the stores does at well. The only other problem I have with my set is that it is slight off center and slightly pincushioned. You only notice either one when you leave the thick vertical black bars on SD material, but I never do that.

Originally posted by bhenley
The 30" and 32" display nearly the identical picture size for widescreen material. If you are watching SD 4:3, the 32" display is about 170% of the area of the 30" display.

http://www.cavecreations.com/tv2.cgi will show/compare the display dimensions for whatever size and aspect ratio you select.

I understand the size difference but would like to save a few $ on the 30". I should have asked how does the 30" look on SD in the various modes (pillar boxed 4:3, strecthed, zoomed, etc) vs the 32", except for it being smaller. For HD material it should look the same.

The only weak points on the 32" is HD in 720p (ABC-HD via the built-in tuner) doesn't look as good in 1080i, some PIP limitations, and sound is a bit weak. HD is not as good as some HD sets but excels over other HD sets for SD viewing.

If the new sets are changing the 3D comb filter to a 3-line, the new sets could lose the edge in SD performance and take a big step back against the competition.

Originally posted by Shink
You are very lucky - most people here with the 30" set have barrel roll, and every one I've looked at in the stores does at well. The only other problem I have with my set is that it is slight off center and slightly pincushioned. You only notice either one when you leave the thick vertical black bars on SD material, but I never do that.

I was just coming back to say that I can see a slight pincushion(which can be fixed from the service menu I believe). I also notice that it is a slight off-center to the right. My 2-days off start after tonight, so I will probably sit down and read about the service manual.

I had the slight off-center problem as well. It was only occuring with my component input and it took about 2 minutes in the service menu to fix it right up. (I'm not recommending that everyone try this, and if you do, be sure to write down your presets before making any changes)

Originally posted by hardwired
I understand the size difference but would like to save a few $ on the 30". I should have asked how does the 30" look on SD in the various modes (pillar boxed 4:3, strecthed, zoomed, etc) vs the 32", except for it being smaller.

I've had the 30" model for about a month now, so I guess I can comment.

The HD in good, but not great. Definitely not eye-popping like on bigger sets, more expensive sets, but it's nice.

The SD is excellent - and using the "Zoom1" mode you still get a really solid picture that fills most of the screen (about 3/4" black bar on the left and right side of the screen). I typically watch in Zoom1 mode. Zoom2 mode fills the entire screen, but you really can start noticing a drop in picture quality.

If you are not using the digital tuner, you have the option of "Full" mode - which stretches the 4:3 image to fit the 16:9 screen. This stretches the images and gives you squatty fat people. The picture looks good if the distorted shapes don't bother you.

Just as a heads up, there is a new Philips 30" widescreen at walmart that compairs quite nicely with the 30" sanyo. I started a thread about it here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=533115

One thing I really like about this set is that it has a black cabinet.

Since this thread is mainly about walmart anyways, walmarts price on this set is something like 668.

The Phillips model doesn't have an integrated tuner, does it? That feature is what sold me on the Sanyo model since I don't have cable/satellite and an ATSC tuner costs $200 for the cheapo WALMART one.

Originally posted by Shink
The Phillips model doesn't have an integrated tuner, does it? That feature is what sold me on the Sanyo model since I don't have cable/satellite and an ATSC tuner costs $200 for the cheapo WALMART one.

Yes, the new philips does have an integrated ATSC/QAM tuner and an HDMI input.

Very informative thread, as always. Maybe a tad bit too informative:) , as it took me literally 3 days to read through all 83 pages. In any case, the short story is this:


I didn't need a new TV, as I'm fine with my 2-year old Sony 36XBR800. Sure the picture isn't quite as sharp with the "scrolling bar" patch applied, but it's still a great set. Aside from this, I don't have a TV in my bedroom, but had no plans of buying one anytime soon. Then I saw this Sanyo online at another forum I post at. At the time, it was selling for I believe $650. I thought it was a good deal, but there was two problems. First off, I didn't have $650 to spend at the time, as I have plenty of bills to pay. Secondly, Sanyo was the manufacturer and Walmart was the retailer. Sanyo isn't known for excellent TVs, as they are more geared toward bargain hunters. Not to take anything away from Walmart, because they're a great retailer for standard goods including household items, DVDs, CDs, etc. They aren't, however, known for selling high quality TVs. Sure every once in a while they may get a decent set, but for the most part, they don't sell top-of-the-line sets. Also, we don't have a Walmart in NYC. So I passed it up the first time. Then last week, I caught wind of Walmart's new shipment of the 30-inch Widescreen Sanyo HDTVs, and this time it was for $598. Still a bit skeptical of the performance, but very interested nonetheless. Then I came into a few more bucks than I was expecting on Wednesday, so I figured "What the heck?". So I took the plunge after hearing other people's impressions of the set, and because I knew I might not get another chance to buy the set at this price, if it did perform well. Then, after all was said and done, I came across this thread. I read what people had to say regarding the set, both good and bad. Some flaws sound a bit annoying, but for $600, I'm not expecting perfection. Heck, even my $2000 (at the time) 36XBR800 isn't perfect. So as of this moment, I'm waiting for Walmart to finish processing my order, and ship my set via freight. Since it's freight, they didn't tell me exactly when I could expect to receive the set. They just gave an estimate that stated April 27th and May 14th. I'm hoping everything goes well, and my set is delivered safely so that I can start playing with it, and see how well it compares to my Wega.

By the way, does anyone have any images of this set in action. Also, I'd also like to see the "green bar/stripe" issue everyone is talking about, when playing Xbox games. The reason being that, in addition to being a hardcore videophile, I'm also a very hardcore gamer. The Xbox is my most used console. I've had it since launch, and can't go on without it.

I posted a pic of my set on a stand (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5381464#post5381464) on page 72 of this thread. This pic was taken during the NCAA tournament, so it is HD material.

You can click the thumbnail below for a larger image:

http://img120.echo.cx/img120/5324/dscn1095rot4ao.th.jpg (http://img120.echo.cx/my.php?image=dscn1095rot4ao.jpg)

Yeah, I think I did see your pic, but it is always good to get a second look, so thank you very much. It seems that when taking a picture of your set in motion, the flash drowns the detail out. I have the same problem when I tried to take a snapshot of my set in motion. In any case, if you or anyone else here has any more shots of this set, I would love to see them. Particularly, shots of the aforementioned flaws, so that I can get a clear picture (no pun intended) of what people are describing. Thanks again.

Is walmart Stocking this yet? I am in the memphis TN area. I would love to exchange my sanyo for this one. My sanyo pretty much sucks.

i have a first generation xbox, meaning i got it the day it came out and i am also experiencing the green bars issue with my box. the ps2 using component has no issues at all either in gt4, or a dvd. i do love my xbox and this issue really does suck.



to clarify, has there been any workaround for this issue yet at all? people keep posting their problems, but no one has posted any solutions.

My xbox doesn't have any green bars at all, so I have no idea about that. I also have a first generation 1.0 xbox.

res0n0xg, the problem you are experiencing with the set is what I'm searching for, as far as pictures go. With that said, if I'm not mistaken, the Xbox acts like this with a few other HDTVs as well. I forgot which one, but I've heard about it elsewhere and Sanyo wasn't the manufacturer. If worse comes to worse, I may just have to wait till my set arrives (whenever that may be) and test out both my PS2s, my Xbox, my Gamecube, and my DVHS in progressive scan to see if this problem is present on all units and to see if it has been corrected.

can someone please tell me the original value for 116 in the service manual i accidently set it to something else and i forgot the original number.

Originally posted by sf49ersnfl
can someone please tell me the original value for 116 in the service manual i accidently set it to something else and i forgot the original number.

"the original value" doesn't exist as a single value for all sets. I show 5E as a starting value for a 30" and also a 32". A different 32" started at 56. I eventually changed the 56 to be 6A and the 32" 5E went to 68. It is best set by displaying a test pattern for overscan to set the Vertical Size to something that you want.

You shouldn't be changing any SM values if you don't have them written down or entered into a computer.

The Xbox problem is probably due to the video encoder chip it uses. Over the course of the Xbox's lifetime it has switched encoders a few time. My 1.6 Xbox can't play Fable or Panzer Dragoon Orta in 480p (of course, two games that would look gorgeous on my TV). And I guess some older Xboxes have problems with component DVD. It's almost certainly your Xbox that's the problem, not your TV. You're just going to have to live with it.

never mind i do not need the original value anymore i just reset the system by unplugging everything but thank you for the info anyways.

Yus,
have you enabled the dashboard in progressive scan? (Pull both triggers and click both sticks all at the same time while in the dashboard). Fable would not work in 480p for me until I did this.

Can anyone give me a quick rundown on how to turn down the red push on the HDMI input? The service manual is totally greek to me, and though I found a lot of good info in this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3911268&highlight=red+service#post3911268) post, it does not specify the menu # for the hdmi input.

p.s. this is for the 30" model, if that matters...

Originally posted by sensibull
Can anyone give me a quick rundown on how to turn down the red push on the HDMI input? The service manual is totally greek to me, and though I found a lot of good info in this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=3911268&highlight=red+service#post3911268) post, it does not specify the menu # for the hdmi input.

p.s. this is for the 30" model, if that matters...

It has been a long time since I messed with the service menu but I clicked on your "this" link and disagree with it. Specifically,

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Prefixes: 4 - Component input #3. Anything thats has a 4 in front of it means it adjusts this input specifically.

D - Digital. Anything with a D in front of it means it adjusts just for digital cable or digital antenna input.

...

The MOST USEFUL one i found was *P-RYR. This adjusts the amount of RED. And is #192 for component 3. I changed it from 1000 to 1101 which greatly reduced my redshift.
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Prefix 4 is for 480p, not Compontent 3. I DON'T have HDMI but I thought D adjustments were for any digital input (ATSC, QAM, or HDMI), and the adjustments were not connection specific.

My SM and spreadsheet where all the values are entered (you DID record all existing things before changing - right?), show 192-197 to be
192 RF-RYR RF
193 4I-RYR 480I
194 4P-RYR 480P
195 1I-RYR 1080I
196 7P-RYR 720P
197 D-RYR Digital

I'd expect your HDMI to be changed by 197, but that would also effect OTA ATSC inputs as well. 196 would change 720P input on either component connection.

#106 is Red Drive, 10A is Red Cutoff, 108 is Blue Drive, 10C is Blue Cutoff. I doubt you have the scope suggested for the SM procedure on page 15 but it describes going to the entry two before #0B0 for Red and Blue and adjusting with the remote's 1,3,7,&9 keys. All that does in alter the values in #106 and #108. You can get the same thing just changing 106 directly but you want greyscale correct (over all inputs). Then you can fiddle with #197. Bottom line is I don't think you'll find an HDMI specific adjustment for Red (or anything else). All digital inputs are just that - digital, not analog that needs to be tweaked because this digital red input is different from another digital red input. I've been wrong plenty of times before though!

Bountiful thanks for your reponse bhenley, and for clarifying the info in that link. It's actually OK if the tweaks effect the digital cable as well, as I'm seeing some red push there too (though it seems more channel specific than anything). I definitely don't have any special scope or equipment -- just my eyes and they're seeing too much red ;-) So, if I'm understanding you correctly, it doesn't make any sense to tweak 197 until I adjust 106-108, and if I do touch 106-108, I'll have to re-run greyscale tests (with something like DVE) afterwards?

I also have a small amount of barrel roll and pincusion -- if I'm remebering correctly, the former cannot be fixed in the SM, but the latter can?

Originally posted by sensibull

So, if I'm understanding you correctly, it doesn't make any sense to tweak 197 until I adjust 106-108, and if I do touch 106-108, I'll have to re-run greyscale tests (with something like DVE) afterwards?

I also have a small amount of barrel roll and pincusion -- if I'm remebering correctly, the former cannot be fixed in the SM, but the latter can?

The 106 & 108 will change Red and Blue for the "TV", regardless of input source, frequency, ... but you don't HAVE to do that first. You can also adjust things using the on screen menu. If you are satisfied with Video 1, Component 2, ... and only have issues with Digital, you can just change 197. That is said by someone w/o HDMI in use!

It all depends on what you mean by barrel roll. Pincushion and barrel distortion can be adjusted on the set with the same SM value. You can find hundreds of web sites that use barrel distortion to mean negative pincushion. People post in this thread about "barrel roll" and I can't find a single web site that will define it to be what they use the word for. Likewise, entering "barrel roll" into "definition" web sites takes me to pincushion. If what you are referring to is the corners going in (barrel distortion) or going out (pincushion), then the SM will adjust it. The adjustment is to make the width of the top/bottom of the screen match the width of the middle of the screen.
)pincushion(
(barrel)
If your "barrel roll" is something else, I've got no suggestions.

My apologies, though I do have a (barrel) effect, I was using "barrel roll" incorrectly to mean screen rotation. My screen is slightly twisted clockwise, so the left is higher than right, particularly when ticker-tape scores or something roll across the bottom.

Thanks again...

QUITE a few pages to search through... My issues are an inability to get 16:9 in normal mode (must use full) and horizontal white flashing around text while being fed a progressive signal from my Toshiba SD-P2700. I have also notice that there is significant pincushioning on the vertical while in 4:3. So much that it tends to bend and cross up to 4 vertical lines of pixels!

The DVD player is set to output a 16:9 image, verified on its own display. When i select interlaced and/or progressive output, the display is only 4:3 in Normal mode on the television. I have to select "full" to get it to fill the screen. I am using the red/blue/green inputs (composite correct?) . I have noticed that the interlaced output when viewed has a slight horizontal movement of vertical bars. You have to be pretty close to the picture to see it. While progressive has an extremely nice picture with no scanning issues. The only problem is text while in progressive. It causes the lower portion of the screen to flicker white horizontal lines. They are rather faint, but obvious none the less.

Im guessing i will have to get into the service manual to adjust the pincushioning on the sides.

Other questions:

Is there a way to select variable output for sound? so that the television volume control can control the volume to my receiver? It appears that it is not possible.

How do you select 3 digit channels with the remote? How do i choose channel 103 for example? I type in "1" and "0" and it shoots me to channel 10 before i can select "3". Thanks for your input =)

Does anyone know if an external tuner is necessary for Charter HDTV or will the onboard tuner pick it up. Charter is finally bringing HDTV to my town!!

thx for any info

On my DVD player I also have to choose "Full" mode - not sure why this is a problem for you though; the image looks fine to me.

Originally posted by 1nite
Does anyone know if an external tuner is necessary for Charter HDTV or will the onboard tuner pick it up. Charter is finally bringing HDTV to my town!!

thx for any info

The onboard (QAM) tuner may pick up some channels, but if your charter is like my charter (Madison WI), you will probably only get local channels, and music channels. The rest of the QAM channels are encrypted. I also get video on demand channels, but they are subject to the whim of whomever actually is watching it. They fast forward, you fast forward. Don't ask me how it works. I have only tried it once or twice to see what it was like...it is a complete waste of time in my opinon.

As an FYI, you will need to do a Digitial Cable Scan (if you are currently using the TV for OTA). The process takes 1/2 hour or longer depending on the # of channels it has to scan. It doesn't store both OTA & QAM scan results (it overlays the previous) as well.

Originally posted by STEAMHL2

One thing I have a problem with on this set is the pixelation on PS2 Games. I was playing Kingdom Hearts as a test and the CG sequences are nice and sharp, but on the static screens (text) the lines are really fuzzy and not straight at all (pixely rough edges). What is this caused by and can it be fixed?

I have my PS2 hooked up with component (Sony) cables on the HT32744. This happens to a lesser extent on some DVDs also. I know it can look much better becuase before I had it hooked up to a 30" Sony (non-HD) and the lines were much much sharper.

I have this same problem. My PS2 games are pixely. Has there been a fix on the TV for this? I've been browsing through this thread but its HUGE (over 80pgs!)

What's your scan velocity modulation set to? Set it to low or off.

Originally posted by Yus
What's your scan velocity modulation set to? Set it to low or off.

I've tried High, Low, and OFF and get the same results.
Is it better to play games with it OFF or Low?

Originally posted by infamous_pb
I have this same problem. My PS2 games are pixely. Has there been a fix on the TV for this? I've been browsing through this thread but its HUGE (over 80pgs!)

It depends on the game. It seems that games that run in the PS2's high res mode, 640x480, have an easier time being upconverted. Grand Turismo 3, a very old game, looks pretty good on this tv in 480i but it doesn't output in progressive scan because HDTV wasn't was popular back in 2000. Though, a game like Final Fantasy X2, a newer game than GT3 and is in the top 10 of game with the best graphics on the system ranked by IGN.com, is all jagged on this tv, but looked really good on my SDTV. Same goes for Metal Gear Solid 3 and Katamari Damacy. PSOne games that look 'good' for PS1 quality running on this TV are equally jagged but a game with simple graphics like Dance Dance Revollution on the PS1 is okay looking.

Unfortunately, HDTV output as standard isn't going to come until the next generation of game machines come out within the next year. Microsoft has done well with the current generation Xbox because just about all XB games run in 480p. I've learned that the jaggies with some PS2 games are just going to be there and it's not going to change but I'm hopeful that if the PS3 has backward compatibility with the PS2, it will help clean up some of the games by making all PS2 games run at 480p.

The SVM on this TV is pretty good, I just keep it to Low.

It would help if you listed some games that look jagged on PS2. All my PS2 games look fine, the only jagged one is Ico, and I know that game runs in the PS2s lowest supported resolution. God of War looks jagged too if you don't run it in progressive scan.

Originally posted by Yus
The SVM on this TV is pretty good, I just keep it to Low.

It would help if you listed some games that look jagged on PS2. All my PS2 games look fine, the only jagged one is Ico, and I know that game runs in the PS2s lowest supported resolution. God of War looks jagged too if you don't run it in progressive scan.

Its not so much jaggies (though, the PS2 just has them), but it looks pixely - especially in some cut scenes. Such as Metal Gear Solid 3 - The faces of the characters in the cutscenes looks pixelated. Same with the cut scenes in Timesplitters 2.

Is there a way to set the Service Adjustments to factory defaults? I was adjusting the vertical and horizontal and screwed it up a little but forgot what it was originally set to.


EDIT:
Or is the only way to fix it is to set everything to the same numbers at are on pgs 3-4 on the Service Manual?

For what it's worth, I just thought I'd give my 2 cents on the whole PS2 "image quality" issue. Like I have stated before, in addition to being a videophile , I'm also a hardcore gamer. HDTV isn't new to me, and neither is the PS2 (I have had both, a Japanese PS2 and US PS2 since launch). What you are all experiencing on this set is completely normal, as hard as that is to believe. The situation is as follows: The PS2's primary resolution is 640x448, and the Sanyo native display resolution is 1080i. All sources are upconverted to 1080i. The PS2's on screen resolution is a far cry from 1080i, and the Sanyo's upconversion quality isn't exactly top-of-the-line. A very good interlaced source on the Sanyo will look good, while a bad interlaced source will look even worse. Many PS2 games like Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 rely on interlaced TVs to provide a cleaner image, as developers incorporate techniques to provide the illusion of "anti-aliasing" via interlaced TVs. The reason games like God of War look better is because they use the PS2's 640x480p mode. So they naturally provide a cleaner and sharper image, via a higher on-screen resolution, rather than some interlaced TV trickery. All Xbox games will be much better looking because they always have at least a 640x480 on-screen resolution, and 99% of the time are displayed in 480p. What you are experiencing will be the same on all HDTVs. Trust me, I've owned a Sony 32XBR400, and currently own a Sony 36XBR800, with the 30-inch 16:9 Sanyo en route for delivery to me. Obviously, the Sony has a superior line doubler, as it is adjustable, but the issue are still apparent, albeit to a lesser extent. Oh, and always set the SVM to the "off" position, as any other setting will only worsen the problem.

Thanks KidPanama

To bad there is not a way for the Sanyo to NOT upconvert to 1080i.

I guess since it trys to upconvert the image and makes it worse, and it seems that component cables makes jaggies more noticable, and that only a handful of PS2 games offer 480p, I'm thinking of just getting a S-Video cable then.



But anyways, back to the service adjustment, is there anyway to adjust it to factory defaults? Is the TV supposed to be set to what pgs 3-4 say in the service manual? I think I kind of screwed it up.

Me = idiot :(

anyone?

Hi,

I brought the 30" Sanyo (HT30744) model after reading all the great things about it from this forum. I got into trouble while trying to connect my HTPC using DVI to HDMI method. I was able to display my desktop on the TV using 1080i resolution. Since I was not able to see the entire desktop, I tried to adjust the horizontal size using Position and Size controls from Powerstrip tool.

As soon as I clicked on -><- this icon, the TV stopped displaying the desktop and "No Signal" message appeared.

I can't get this to work again. No matter what I do, I can't hook my HTPC using the DVI-HDMI connection. I haven't tried the DVI-Component using the dongle (ATI). I am using the ATI 9550 (256MB AGP) card.

In addition to this, now I can't get any HD channels which I used to get from the Zenith sliversensor antenna. I tried different antennas with no success. The analog channels are OK. I do get the green stripes when I play DVD through Xbox using component cables.

Please help me to fix this issue. I don't know where I went wrong to get myself in to this position. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Kiran

havent seen info on good dvd players for this tv.. i just tried the new samsung 850 upconversion . thru hdmi , the tv turned off by its self once, went to a green screen while playing a movie , had to stop movie, and also no buttons on tv remote would work , except power buttom... guess it means thru hdmi this player isnt compatible with tv .. havent tried componet cables yet

KC1,

You're going to need to use a monitor to re-configure your HTPC display settings before re-connecting to the Sanyo. If you can't get a display on a regular monitor, boot into safe mode and use last known good configuration.

If I were you, I'd uninstall Powerstrip and install the latest (5.4) Catalyst drivers, which have greatly improved HTPC output/options. Get the ones with Catalyst Control Center (you'll need .net installed, check the info on the ATI site).

I have never been able to get a useable display in 1080i on this TV. Instead I use 1152 x 648, which is a 720p res. optimized for overscan. If this resolution doesn't come automatically configured with the Cat 5.4 drivers (mine did, but I had been using it previously, so it may have carried over), you'll need to go into the Catalyst Control Center (Display Properties > Settings > Advanced) and go into Digital Panel Properties > HDTV support. Choose the standard 720p setting (1280 x 720 @ 60hz) and then you should be able to create your own resolution using the "Add" button. From there you'll get a Powerstrip like tweaking screen to fine tune your overscan but you'll probably end up with 1152 x 648 or something very similar, so I'd just go with that. If you're still having problems getting 720p to work, click the "Force" button under Display Manager and choose the 720p setting.

Feel free to play around with 1080i settings as well, but I never had any luck.

For further reading, there's a lot of good, generalized info on HTPC > HDTV in this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=5332385#post5332385) thread.

There is also a thread specifically for using this TV as an HTPC monitor here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=5524390#post5524390).

I have no idea why your HD channels have stopped coming in. I assumed you tried different orientations. Antenna Web (http://antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx) can tell you what direction the broadcast stations are...

Hope this helps...

Thanks for the reply sterno3. Being in Michigan, we are in same general group I would think. Can you tell me what kind of outputs the HDTV descrambler has? Have you had any experience with the DVR Charter is promoting? They claim that it is HDTV compatible.

thx again

Originally posted by 1nite
Thanks for the reply sterno3. Being in Michigan, we are in same general group I would think. Can you tell me what kind of outputs the HDTV descrambler has? Have you had any experience with the DVR Charter is promoting? They claim that it is HDTV compatible.

thx again

No problem...I don't subscribe to cable tv right now, but I did have HDTV cable for about a month to try it out. The only channel I actually watched was ESPN HD. It was during football season, so it was almost worth it just for that :D. Locally they have added Discovery HD, TNT HD (I think), and a couple other channels recently, so it might be more worth it.

I had a motorolla HD box...it had a firewire out & USB out (both disabled I think). I had the box before I had my HTPC setup, so I never checked it out. Apparently they have the new MOXI HD DVR. I think it is an extra $10 a month, but I have heard its worth it (considering I spent about $700 building an HTPC, it seems reasonable). I have a friend who has the Moxi box for standard def, and he is very pleased with it. I imagine it has composite, component, & DVI (or HDMI) outs, and an optical 5.1 out. Not knowing the model # I can't say for sure.

Go to charter's site & do a chat with sales...I spent about 20 minutes with someone yesterday. They are very knowlegdeable, and should be able to help answer your questions. I found out for me, the barest option to get HD (specifically ESPN HD), is about $32 + tax. Not really worth it for the 3 or 4 channels (ESPN, TNT, & Discovery) I might watch, but its getting closer. I looked at Dish & D*, but they are a little more expensive from a monthly standpoint.

Well, I made all the adjustments on the TV according to the Sanyo Service Manual on pages 3-4.
http://hinome.net/images/sanyo.pdf

Odd thing is, some of the ones that I did not adjust earlier were not set to what the service manual says. So, I adjusted them anyways. Any reason why some of the TV's default service settings are not exactly as described on the Service manual? Should adjusting the settings according to the Service Manual make for a better and more correct picture?

Service manuals give default settings, which serve as starting points before adjustments are made at the factory. Electronic devices are not yet perfect and consistent enough for the same settings to be correct on different instances of the same model TV.

I would never consider changing initial factory settings to the defaults specified in the service manual. I would wonder, though, about any setting that is way off from the defaults.

yes, i would like previously said, write down everything before changing the values. For my set i tried to defaults as listed in the service menu. The horizontal and vertical size and position values were pretty bad, as was the brightness, a bit too low for good use, other things probably were affected, but those were the most general i could find. Actually i also had a problem for a while getting the screen back to full mode..i'm not sure why..but it would give me 4 zoom options and i think a panoramic option..the factory settings did some weird things with that, but best of luck to you.

Well crap. I was writing everything down, but left out a section :o
I forgot to write down my original settings for:
116
117
119
11A
11B
11C
11D
11E
11F
120
:(
Could someone please look at their HT30744 and tell me what you have for those settings? Thanks!

Hi!
I have the Sanyo 30" with a Samsung Directv receiver.
I'm using the HDMI connections.
Can anyone tell me how to connect a VCR?
I have tried this-unsuccessfully. I was able to play, but not record.
Thanks!

Hi,

Thanks you very much for your reply and suggestion. I will try to follow what you have suggested this week end.

I was wrong about linking this to the HDTV problem. I am able to get the local HDTV broadcast now. It was a problem with my antenna.

Regards,
Kiran

Originally posted by infamous_pb
Well crap. I was writing everything down, but left out a section :o
I forgot to write down my original settings for:
116
117
119
11A
11B
11C
11D
11E
11F
120
:(
Could someone please look at their HT30744 and tell me what you have for those settings? Thanks!


Anyone?

116-42
117-5C
119-61
11A-64
11B-80
11C-78
11D-59
11E-6D
11F-7D
120-78

Originally posted by xt14
116-42
117-5C
119-61
11A-64
11B-80
11C-78
11D-59
11E-6D
11F-7D
120-78

Thanks XT14

Hmmm
For some reason it still doesnt look right. I have a big black vertical bar on my right. I played with the horizontal and vertical some more and I think it looks normal. I did:
116-4C
117-6C
119-85
11E-6F

I think I learned my lesson - if it aint broke, dont fix it :D

Has anyone tried connecting a HDMI cable from their Satellite/Cable receiver to the TV? Does it look much better than Component cables (not just with HD channels, but analog interlaced ones too)?

HDMI has none of the problems that the component inputs have, like waveyness.

With my cable box hooked up with components, the only problem I had was some black noise in the picture when it was darker. That went away once I used HDMI. Other than that there isn't much of a difference in picture.

Has anyone run that Avia Guide DVD and performed the Overscan and Overscan Bounce test? On the Overscan test, I only see line 3 vertially (top and bottom) and line 7 horizontally (left and right). I'm guessing I should see line 0 on all sides. I've messed with the settings, but cant seem to fill up the entire screen properly. When I get close to filling the screen, but try something other than a DVD movie (like a Playstation 2 game) it doesnt fill up the screen. Can anyone help me with these settings?

Originally posted by infamous_pb
Has anyone run that Avia Guide DVD and performed the Overscan and Overscan Bounce test? On the Overscan test, I only see line 3 vertially (top and bottom) and line 7 horizontally (left and right). I'm guessing I should see line 0 on all sides. I've messed with the settings, but cant seem to fill up the entire screen properly. When I get close to filling the screen, but try something other than a DVD movie (like a Playstation 2 game) it doesnt fill up the screen. Can anyone help me with these settings?

Its a trick that PS2 and other systems use. They count on your tv to have some overscan and as such don't fill an entire frame. If you calibrate your tv for 0 overscan, you'll definitely see the edges of stuff, like those PS2 games. Some people like it like this, others don't. i've got my tv right about 5%. That is out far enough to show quite a bit of picture, but in far enough that I don't usually see the edges of the picture.

Originally posted by oryan_dunn
Its a trick that PS2 and other systems use. They count on your tv to have some overscan and as such don't fill an entire frame. If you calibrate your tv for 0 overscan, you'll definitely see the edges of stuff, like those PS2 games. Some people like it like this, others don't. i've got my tv right about 5%. That is out far enough to show quite a bit of picture, but in far enough that I don't usually see the edges of the picture.


I see. Thanks. Could you possibly tell me what adjustments/numbers you did to get 5% on all sides? Its pretty frustrating and time consuming (trial and error).

Thanks

Originally posted by infamous_pb
I see. Thanks. Could you possibly tell me what adjustments/numbers you did to get 5% on all sides? Its pretty frustrating and time consuming (trial and error).

Thanks

I would, but i have a Philips tv, not this sanyo.

Just saw the new 28" HT28745 widescreen at Walmart. It was priced at $547, and had no HDMI. No sign of the new Philips.

Hey guys, Im getting paid in about 2 weeks and so its getting down to time to decide on which tv to get. Ive narrowed it down to either the 32 inch sanyo model, or the 32 inch panasonic CT-32HC14 also at walmart. The panasonic is 1 dollar more than the sanyo, but doesnt come with a built in tuner. However, I was planning on buying an upscaling dvd player anyway, and best buy has an LG tuner/upscaling dvd player for 250. Which would you guys reccomend on a pure quality basis? I dont mind shelling out the extra for the tuner/dvd player, becuase I was going to get a dvd player anyway and the price difference isnt too bad really. Also, Im running a 6.1 surround system in my room, and was curious if the sanyos built in HD tuner would decode the DD signals and output them via the optical out or not. My last question is, will I regret the panasonic having only DVI input as opposed to HDMI? Or will it not matter much in the long run.

Originally posted by rustycruiser
Just saw the new 28" HT28745 widescreen at Walmart. It was priced at $547, and had no HDMI. No sign of the new Philips.

So they knocked the price down by $50 and got rid of 2" of viewable area and HDMI? That SUCKS.

What was costing Sanyo so much, in the 30" model?

Originally posted by Drslump
Hey guys, Im getting paid in about 2 weeks and so its getting down to time to decide on which tv to get. Ive narrowed it down to either the 32 inch sanyo model, or the 32 inch panasonic CT-32HC14 also at walmart. The panasonic is 1 dollar more than the sanyo, but doesnt come with a built in tuner. However, I was planning on buying an upscaling dvd player anyway, and best buy has an LG tuner/upscaling dvd player for 250. Which would you guys reccomend on a pure quality basis? I dont mind shelling out the extra for the tuner/dvd player, becuase I was going to get a dvd player anyway and the price difference isnt too bad really. Also, Im running a 6.1 surround system in my room, and was curious if the sanyos built in HD tuner would decode the DD signals and output them via the optical out or not. My last question is, will I regret the panasonic having only DVI input as opposed to HDMI? Or will it not matter much in the long run.

Sanyo's built in tuner does send a DD signal through the optical port, though your 6.1 receiver is the one that does the decoding.

I don't think you'll regret going DVI as opposed to HDMI. The only advantage to HDMI is having a single cable for audio and video. There are DVI to HDMI cables available in a lot of places, so you shouldn't have a problem connecting an HDMI device to a TV with a DVI port.

Well as of yesterday I returned my Sanyo 30" HDTV. I am going to try that new 30 phillips (with QAM). They had to order it so I am watching my old 19" toshiba, and to be honest the picture is much better than the sanyo watching a DVD. The Sanyo always looked washed out and grainy when using component and Svideo. It was funny I have been complaining the two months we have had the tv and my wife always said it looked fine, until I took it back and hooked up the kids old tv. I did give this TV a good try. I even called sanyo support (in Forest City, AR) and the said they had heard many complaints about the grainy coponents and would love to send someone out to look at it. After four weeks and no call I returned the sanyo. Oh well its been great reading this forum and feel like I will miss you all.

Godspeed

Scott

Originally posted by midsouthgeek
Well as of yesterday I returned my Sanyo 30" HDTV. I am going to try that new 30 phillips (with QAM). They had to order it

Did you order the Philips from Walmart? What was the price?

Can someone tell me about this new 30" Philips that's supposed to be coming out and what is QAM? Does anyone have an approximation of the price and specs on this soon to be released philips?

Its already out. If your walmart is going to carry it, they should already have it or will get it soon.

This thread is about the new Philips:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=533115

And here it is at the Philips site:
http://www.consumer.philips.com/consumer/catalog/catalog.jsp?fhquery=fh_secondid%3D30pw9110d_37_us_consumer%2 6fh_location%3D%2F%2Fconsumer%2Fen_US%2Fcategories%3Ccatalog _us_consumer%2Fcategories%3Ctv_gr_us_consumer%2Fcategories%3 Cdigital_tv_ca_us_consumer%26&productId=30PW9110D_37_US_CONSUMER&activeCategory=TV_GR_US_CONSUMER&fredhopperpage=detail.jsp&language=en&country=US&catalogType=CONSUMER&proxybuster=WPWSS2BXPYZR5J0RMRESHP3HKFSEKI5P

QAM is the standard for HDTV over cable.

..finally picked up the 30" sanyo off of lay away this past Friday night. Earlier that same day I swapped out my old digital cable box for a scientific atlanta 3250. After I picked up the sanyo, I spent friday night setting things up.

I have had little sleep since then. I have been like a little kid again. Man, I love the picture on this set. Time warner has a decent amount of HD content available, and I also signed up for their HD pak. I must say though that discovery channels hd offering's seem the most vivid.

No problems so far. The sanyo is an '05 build and I have no barrel roll in 16:9, nor have I yet to see any geometry issues with this set. Everything seems spot on. I really have to thank everyone that contributed to this thread. A vast amount of very useful info that helped in my purchase.

Originally posted by rustycruiser
Did you order the Philips from Walmart? What was the price?

Sorry they did not say. exept that the phillips is a little higher. Sure hope it has better picture than the sanyo!!!

Scott

Originally posted by Rakesh.S
So they knocked the price down by $50 and got rid of 2" of viewable area and HDMI? That SUCKS.

What was costing Sanyo so much, in the 30" model?

Actually, it was only $597 online - it was already $547 (mabye $567 - I forget) in store. If you read this thread though, this had become a "clearance" and WalMart was taking a loss at those prices.

Ok, I need some help taking care of some of this overscan on my HT30744. I would like to get almost 0% overscan on all sides. But no matter what I do, the right side is always giving me problems. I can have almost 0% on the top, bottom, and left, but the right ALWAYS has a black bar going up and down.

Could someone please give me your settings what you used to eliminate most of the overscan? I've been at this for hours!
Thanks!

0% overscan is not good. You want 3-5%.

Originally posted by Ratman
0% overscan is not good. You want 3-5%.


Anything. 3% would be fine I guess. What would be the settings to get 3%?

Whats wrong with 0%?

Using Avia or Digital Video Essentials (DVE) DVD's, they provide a tutorial and test patterns for explanation and setup.

Originally posted by Ratman
Using Avia or Digital Video Essentials (DVE) DVD's, they provide a tutorial and test patterns for explanation and setup.


I am using Avia! Thats how I know its overscanned.
What settings are you using to get 3%?

Each TV is set calibrated independently from the factory. My set and your set(s) are probably quite different.

I'd suggest that that you put all of the settings back to the default values before you made any changes (assuming you've written them down PRIOR to making changes in the service menus) and use the AVIA per the instructions to properly adjust.

Your problem now is that you are underscanning.

Originally posted by Ratman
Each TV is set calibrated independently from the factory. My set and your set(s) are probably quite different.

I'd suggest that that you put all of the settings back to the default values before you made any changes (assuming you've written them down PRIOR to making changes in the service menus) and use the AVIA per the instructions to properly adjust.

Your problem now is that you are underscanning.


Yeah, I know that each TVs are calibrated slightly differently. But I'm willing to take a chance that its closely similar. I think the only settings I would need are 116-126 (I think those only deal with size adjustment).

I'm willing to take ANY settings. I've spent hours on this. I'm desperate.

I have an HT32744 that I can't seem to get to work with my Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD using the HDMI cable. Nobody at my cable company seems to know much about how to get it to work. I am on my third cable box in as many days (one the tech burned up during a service call - I told you they didn't seem to know much about it). I can make it work - barely - as long as I don't use ANY of the other outputs from the Explorer (which means I can't use the composite out, or even the RF cable out, to run to my VCR). Everything works fine using any other connection - component video, composite, S-video. But if I connect them that way, I lose a connection I need for something else (I have a DVD connected to component 3, VCR to video 1, and video game connected to video 2).

At the present moment it is working - again, barely. Sometimes I lose the sound, sometimes the picture breaks up. After a while it goes out altogether, and the Explorer will reboot, or the TV will tell me there's no signal, or I'll get a black screen saying my TV doesn't support HDCP (it does, of course) and to use the component video connections.

Has anyone else had problems like this? Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong, or what to have the cable company check (they're scheduled for yet another service call in a couple of days)?

I'm not sure if HDMI is supported by cable companies yet. Since it's enabled on your box, it's probably buggy.. which is what you're experiencing. I have a Pioneer box with DVI, which is not supported yet by Time Warner. The port is enabled on my box and I experience some bugs like not being able to set resolutions, occasional picture problems as well as the box rebooting everytime I turn it off from an HD channel. I know there's a patch for the 8000HD that is going to enable the DVI port which cable companies will deploy sometime before the end of summer, so maybe that is also when HDMI will get fixed/enabled. People on a local HDTV forum have experienced the HDCP problem on other TVs also.

DVI > HDMI works great on my Motorola DCT6412. :p

And it's a good thing too, considering how crappy the component inputs on this TV are.

Why does my overscan change when I go from progressive to interlaced?

Does anyone have settings to make it 3% overscan on your HT30744??

Originally posted by DotsLines
I have an HT32744 that I can't seem to get to work with my Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD using the HDMI cable. Nobody at my cable company seems to know much about how to get it to work. I am on my third cable box in as many days (one the tech burned up during a service call - I told you they didn't seem to know much about it). I can make it work - barely - as long as I don't use ANY of the other outputs from the Explorer (which means I can't use the composite out, or even the RF cable out, to run to my VCR). Everything works fine using any other connection - component video, composite, S-video. But if I connect them that way, I lose a connection I need for something else (I have a DVD connected to component 3, VCR to video 1, and video game connected to video 2).

At the present moment it is working - again, barely. Sometimes I lose the sound, sometimes the picture breaks up. After a while it goes out altogether, and the Explorer will reboot, or the TV will tell me there's no signal, or I'll get a black screen saying my TV doesn't support HDCP (it does, of course) and to use the component video connections.

Has anyone else had problems like this? Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong, or what to have the cable company check (they're scheduled for yet another service call in a couple of days)?

This worked for me. I'm using a SA 3250. Turn off the TV. Unplug the cable box. Let the cable box reboot completely before turning the TV back on. I just went through similar frustrations as you have described. All is well since setting things up as described.

I have the Sanyo HT32744 and sometimes I get a greenish blob in the upper right of the picture in widescreen mode that is most noticeable when the picture is displaying light colors such as white, light gray, or light blue.

My HDTV source is from Time Warner cable using a Motorola DCT6200/1000 cable box connected using a component cable that was provided by Time Warner.

Is this common? What is the cause and can it be corrected?

Originally posted by danthi
I have the Sanyo HT32744 and sometimes I get a greenish blob in the upper right of the picture in widescreen mode that is most noticeable when the picture is displaying light colors such as white, light gray, or light blue.

My HDTV source is from Time Warner cable using a Motorola DCT6200/1000 cable box connected using a component cable that was provided by Time Warner.

Is this common? What is the cause and can it be corrected?

Do you have an unshielded speaker near the TV?

Originally posted by sterno3
Do you have an unshielded speaker near the TV?

No speakers are any where near the TV

I have now owned a Sanyo 30HT744 for about five days now. Based on my short time with the set, I can honestly say (at least thus far) that this is the best deal I've ever seen in an HDTV set. Sure it isn't perfect, but neither is/was my $2000 Sony 36XBR800. No sets are perfect, and if you manage to find a set even close to perfection, then consider yourself lucky. I consider myself a videophile, meaning that image quality is the number 1 priority for me when it comes to TVs and all video products in general. Being a videophile means that while the picture being displayed on one set may look incredible or perfect to one person, to me it can look average or flawed. I'm very hard to please when it comes to video, but even I was impressed by the Sanyo. So far I've noticed a very minor tilt, red push, and very minor barrel roll. To be fair, I've just used my Xbox (briefly) on the set, as well as an OTA antenna to receive HD broadcasts. My biggest complaint is that I noticed the green bars that plague DVDs when you watch them on the set using your Xbox as a DVD player. To be blunt, the green bars make all DVDs unwatchable. Period. So now I'm forced to buy DVD player for movies. This isn't too bad, considering that I need a DVD recorder to transfer all of my Mini DV tapes to disc, and I've never gotten around to buying one. Secondly, I did notice the interference through the component video inputs on the set when playing Xbox and PS2 games. However, I turned off the TV while a 480p game was running, and then turned the set back on, and voila. Just like that, the interference was gone and I was treated to a rock solid 480p picture from my PS2 and Xbox. I'm uncertain as to whether or not this "fix" in permanent, as I don't have enough time with the set. So far I've tested Tekken 5 in 480p, Super Monkey Ball 2 (Gamecube), and various Xbox games, including: Ninja Gaiden, Dead or Alive Ultimate, Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball, NBA Ballers, and a few demos. I did this at night, because that way if the flaws are present, they'll be more visible.


I was thinking about going into the service menu, but as of this moment, I opted not to do so. The TV is still too new, so it wouldn't make sense. As for the HDTV programing, like I mentioned earlier, for this set I used just an OTA antenna to test of the set's built-in tuner. I bought the Terk HDTVi indoor antenna, even after reading the iffy reviews on the product. I figured that since I lived in NYC, receiving HD broadcasts would be a snap. Wrong! I should have listened to the reviews. The antenna is indeed very iffy. Sometimes it gets the signals, and sometimes it doesn't. Not to mention the fact that even after playing with it for a while, I can't get a stable signal on 99.9% of the channels. This is unacceptable. I live in the west Bronx, and there really aren't many factors that should prevent me from receiving all the HD broadcasts at a minimum of a 90% signal strength. The signal strength fluctuates so bad, that most broadcasts are unwatchable. So I decided to call Cablevision and request another box. I currently use the Scientific Atlanta Explorer 4200, and I'm generally pleased with it. So I'm hoping that it works as well on my Sanyo as it does on my Sony 36XBR800. It's supposed to be installed later today, so I'll be sure to post some impressions. The main reason I wanted to use an antenna and the built-in tuner is because I can receive a couple of HD channels OTA, that I can't receive through cable vision. Like WB 11 HD and UPN HD. We'll see what happens.


On another note, first I would like to apologize for such a lengthy post, and I would like to know are there any DVD players (preferably recorders) that I should stay away from, in conjunction with this set? I only ask because Target sells a Lite-On DVD recorder and it retails for about $230 with the firewire input that I need for my camcorder transfers. Which players have issues with this set? And has anyone gotten a good picture with the component inputs and an external HD converter box that the cable companies provide?


Thanks in advance.

I've tried a Samsung progressive scan DVD player and a Sanyo non progressive scan DVD player through the components and the picture was fine from both. Picture is horrible though when using my PS2 as a DVD player, so is 480p in games. When I used my Pioneer STB from Time Waner on components, I'd get some interference during darker parts of shows... mainly in movies or primetime shows like Law and Order.

Something is definitely wrong if 480ps look bad on your TV. Games like God of War and Ninja Gaiden are amazing looking in 480p.

Kevbeck122, thanks for the reply. The first thing I immediately did once I got the set was test out the PS2. I don't know what games you have, but I also experienced a horrid picture the the component video outputs of the PS2 when connected to this set. Then after turning the set on and off, the problem (at least for now) disappeared. The first game I tried was the Japanese version of Gran Turismo 4. I tried it in 480i and it was terrible. The picture had too much interference, and it looked like the effect you would get when looking through a flame. Then, like I have previously stated, I tested the US version of Tekken 5 and the interference was gone. I don't know why that is, but I won't ask questions if the picture is good. The truth is that the component inputs on the set are crap, as Yus has stated. It seems as if the set doesn't want to cooperate with certain devices. Right now, it also seems as if the problems some people experience with the set are either exclusive to their sets, or are much worse than the problems that others experience. My set was manufactured in January 2005, if this helps.


Like I said in my previous post, it's far too early to know for sure if my set is free from serious problems, as I have yet to try out a HDTV set-top box, and I've only owned the set for about 5 days. I'll keep everyone posted.

My PS2 is an earlier model.. SCPH-30001. I get tons of interference when watching DVDs.. but this model only does 480i for DVDs. Usually once I go to 480p in games I get wavy graphics. The game is playable, but the wavyness annoys me. Usually once the wavyness starts in 480p, once I go back to 480i the waves continue. 1080i in GT4 is probably the best picture I've seen out of the PS2. I've played other 480i games like MGS2 and 3 as well as Tekken Tag... they look fine other than the jaggies because of low res graphics.

To see how another PS2 would react to this TV, I bought the slim PS2 and everything was great until I switched to 480p. Same wavy graphics... even with DVDs. DVDs looked fine in 480i. Even turning the TV on and off did not help these problems. I'm not sure if I have a bad TV, or if I just have sensitive eyes to the wavyness issue. Mine was manufactured in September of 04 I believe.

This does seem like a huge problem. Like I've stated, I also have the whole "wavy" problem. The first day I got the set, it was immediately noticeable and severe. Then somehow, it lessened. Both my PS2's are very early models, since they don't even offer DVDs in progressive scan. I really don't understand why the set reacts so bad to the Xbox and PS2. It seems to me that some sets suffer the problem moreso than others.. I do not wish to jinx myself, as I've said it was hard to notice recently. I just played the setup DVD that comes with the set on my Japanese PS2, and if I looked hard, I could definitely see the wavy lines. The thing was that it was bearable, and wasn't very consistent. The other thing was that I just watched the DVD a couple of hours ago, and there was an abundance of light. This means that the glare from the sun can mask the severity of the problems. I'll test out a couple of more games when the sun goes down to see if I notice anymore problems.

Hello, I'm not sure if this is the appropriate place to post my question or not.

I recently purchased the 32" model of this television set after reading reviews of it here and other places. But I am very frustrated trying to get it to work right.

FYI I am not an audiophile or videophile, I know how to set up a tv/cable/vcr/dvd player/game console for the most part but I think I am in over my head.

The picture on my television looks horrible, to me. Granted, I do not have an HDTV antenna yet, the cable company will be coming out Friday to give me the new HD set top box they provide, and I'm hoping that will help some but I dont think that should matter on regular cable TV or video games?

Regular TV (through my cable box) looks very grainy. When I play PS2 games, it looks like a computer monitor would look in 640x480. That is, the picture seems too large and blocky. Text on the screen is almost unreadable. I've tried adjusting the PS2 to 16:9 or full screen and it seems a little better, but not much. (On a side note I was disappointed that there were no front RCA inputs on this model)

Here is the way I have it set up currently. Since there are only 2 sets of RCA inputs in the back, so I used coax to go from the cable box to the TV (this could be why the picture is so grainy?) and I used the RCA inputs for the PS2 and the DVD player.

this plunged me into a whole nother world of cables. Reading my DVD instruction manual, it tells me that S-video is preferable, so I went looking for S-video cables, and I had read it here that Monster is preferred, but I was bewildered by the choices presented to me. S-video, composite, component what? Then the Monster cables were like $50 but Target sells a brand made by GE for half the price. Salespeople there and at Radio Shack are worthless.

Please help. I was so excited to purchase this television and was especially looking forward to playing games on it, but games look worse on this television than my old 27" regular Samsung set.

Someone suggested to me that it sounds like perhaps this television is set to "monitor mode" which would explain the horrible resolution. But I've tried poking around in the set-up menu and the choices presented to me are very limited and do nothing to improve the picture.

I may have mentioned in here before, but the reason the XBOX has those green wavy lines is because there is a line of code in its programming which only allows DVD playback in non-progressive. I read there was some legal reason for them doing this. I was able to successfully change this by installing a mod-chip. Anyway, once this was adjusted, DVD video looked fantastic using the HD AV pack on my HT32744.

pchandler,

I would recommend using Component Video for the DVD player and Component Video/S-Video for the Playstation 2. I don't think it's worth it to buy Monster brand cables personally, but to each their own. I wouldn't recommend using the RCA jacks for anything personally.

If you have digital cable, might want to hook it up via component or S-Video as well. I don't have cable, so I can't comment.

I have the 30" set and have Dreamcast & PS2 connected via S-Video through a switcher, DVD player connected via component, and an antenna coming into the digital and analog jacks in the back.

Originally posted by danthi
I have the Sanyo HT32744 and sometimes I get a greenish blob in the upper right of the picture in widescreen mode that is most noticeable when the picture is displaying light colors such as white, light gray, or light blue.

My HDTV source is from Time Warner cable using a Motorola DCT6200/1000 cable box connected using a component cable that was provided by Time Warner.

Is this common? What is the cause and can it be corrected?

I had a similar problem, turns out my brightness/contrast where way off even though the picture looked fine. Get yourself a calibration dvd (the thx calibration on most new dvd movies works too) and calibrate the picture. That blob should disappear.

Originally posted by metjgd
I may have mentioned in here before, but the reason the XBOX has those green wavy lines is because there is a line of code in its programming which only allows DVD playback in non-progressive. I read there was some legal reason for them doing this. I was able to successfully change this by installing a mod-chip. Anyway, once this was adjusted, DVD video looked fantastic using the HD AV pack on my HT32744.


I'm not quite sure I understand what you're saying. I'm aware of all the modchips on the market, and although I haven't personally installed a modchip, but I wouldn't be surprised if it would correct some issues. With that said, both my Xbox and PS2 seem flawless on my 36XBR800, regardless of the resolution or source. The picture is free of any interference, and the DVD playback is also free of "green bars". I don't see why this set would be any different. It's obviously a design flaw, at least to my eyes. It's really bothersome, but for $600 I can't complain too much. I'm still somewhat hopeful that someone finds a fix around this issue.

Just thought I'd post my impressions of the set when used with the HD cablebox that Cablevision installed earlier today. They came at about 5PM and installed another SA Explorer 4200HD box, only this time the box was component video-only, as opposed to the one I use for my aforementioned Sony, which has a DVI output. It's not a big deal, as they are nearly identical in every other respect. However, there is one small problem....I also noticed the interference that many other people spoke of when you watch 1080i broadcasts via converter box. All was great, until I stared at the image and noticed the dreaded interference. Ugh. To be honest, it's not a huge deal, but the picture would be so much better if it were completely devoid of interference. I'd be lying if I said it didn't bother me. The interference came in the form of very faint, transparent horizontal lines that are only visible during dark scenes, or when you change the channel. I would describe the lines to be identical to what you would get if you used cables with no shielding whatsoever. Other than that, I was amazed by how much detail this little $600 set can spit out. Here in the Bronx, Cablevision offers: Yes Network HD, ESPN HD, MSG HD, FOX HD, NBC HD, PBS HD, CBS HD, Starz HD, HBO HD, Showtime HD, TMC HD, INHD, Fox Sportsnet HD, Universal HD, and ABC HD. So obviously, they have a good selection. The only problem is that they're missing one channel that I consider to be very important, and that channel is Discovery HD. I used to have this channel when I was a Time Warner subscriber, and Cablevison still does not carry it. This channel offers the best looking, least compressed HD broadcasts that I have ever seen.


As of now, I have a couple of questions. Has anyone found any type of "fix" for this interference problem, or another way to circumvent it? I remember someone mentioning using the HDMI port instead, and I love love to do so, but the problem is that the box they (Cablevision) provided me with, has no HDMI or DVI jacks. I'm sure I could call them up and swap the box, but if it won't eliminate the interference, it really wouldn't be worth it. Secondly, I went to Target (not the best place to buy electronics, but occasionally they get some nice items) and was looking for a nice DVD recorder with a firewire jack, so I could transfer all my mini DV tapes to DVD so that I could share them. They had a nice looking Phllips DVD recorder that had everything, and only wanted $250 for it. They also had a very similar Memorex DVD recorder for about $230. Both were very nice for the price, so of course both were sold out. I think I asked this before, but do real DVD players suffer from the interference problem as well? I sure hope not. In any case, I checked Radioshack online, and they have a Lite-On DVD recorder for a sale price of $189. I believe this player also has the firewire jack I need for my camera as well. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

I have a Panasonic CV-51 (old school, non-progressive DVD) connected through component and have no issues with interference. My box is the a v5 30" model.

Thanks for the reply, Shink. I'll see if I can check out a couple of DVD recorders tomorrow. I still can't quite understand why some products have issues with the set's component video inputs, and others don't. It makes no sense to me.

I would appreciate other people's experiences with this set, while using real DVD players as well. Preferably, progressive scan DVD players.

Hi i just bought the ht30744 and i'm having problem with the set up, cause i bought the tv without the remote and the manual in walmart for $400.00 but they gave me a hdtv remote from the store and I download the manual from this site so I'm good to go there.
the thing is that i have regular cable (comcast) without the box, but when i connect the cable to the tv i only get just like six channel. I'm planing to get hdtv cable. but i don't have an idea how this work so any help will be aprecited.
thanks.

I'm surprised I only see people complaining about the "waves" with PS2 or Xbox, when it happens with anything connected with the component inputs. I confirmed this when I compared my HD-DVR with component cables, then with DVI/HDMI. HDMI is crystal clear, while it had the waveyness issue with component cables.

The waveyness can happen at any resolution (though it's less noticable at 1080i, since the waves are smaller), and there doesn't seem to be any way to get rid of it. As far as I have seen it doesn't go away over time, either. Interestingly some things seem to suffer from waveyness more than others. If anyone else has these games tell if me your results are similar to mine:

Halo 2 (Xbox, 480p): Waveyness comes and goes. I can have entire play sessions without any waveyness, then the next day it will be wavey.
Psychonauts (Xbox, 480p): I have never noticed any waveyness in this game.
Soul Calibur 2 (Xbox, 720p): Sadly one of the best looking games on the Xbox suffers from the worst waveyness I've seen in an Xbox game.
God of War (PS2, 480p): Maybe one of the best looking games I've seen on this TV. Never seen any hint of waveyness.
Gran Turismo 4 (PS2, 480p & 1080i): The menus have tons of waveyness (they run in 480i), but there's no waveyness in-game at 1080i (though there is another issue I'll talk about later).

The other big issue with component inputs is "flickering" at 1080i. This is most noticable with Xbox Media Center (I can only see it on the black loading screens in GT4), where there is a dark spot that quickly scrolls across the screen in a left to right motion, creating a flickering effect. Thankfully this can be fixed by turning the TV off for a second, then turning it back on. Again this problem doesn't exist with HDMI.

I'm curious to know why this issue exists. Poor component connections? Some kind of interference?

The only solution seems to be to switch to HDMI. That doesn't help with the PS2 or Xbox, but the next gen consoles should support DVI/HDMI. I just hope some affordable HDMI switchboxes materialize soon.

I have the HT-30744. I have noticed some faint horizontal banding in my picture. It shows up on digital cable, HD and DVD programing. Is this normal for this set to have this condition?

Originally posted by puertorico
....i have regular cable (comcast) without the box, but when i connect the cable to the tv i only get just like six channel.

There are two coaxial antenna connections on the back. One is digital only, the other analog only. You will need a two-way splitter. Connect the cable to from the wall and connect to the spiltter input. Then from the splitter outputs, one to the analog input, the other to the digital input. Perform channel scan for each 'tuner' and you should be good to go.

Originally posted by techneck2005
I have the HT-30744. I have noticed some faint horizontal banding in my picture. It shows up on digital cable, HD and DVD programing. Is this normal for this set to have this condition?

No banding on my set. The only physical flaw I have is the distortion at the extreme left & right edges of the screen where things get "squished".

THANKS RATMAN I WILL TRY THAT, THE OTHER THING IS THE REMOTE CONTROL THAT I HAVE FROM WALMART DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY CAUSE MY TV CAME WITH NO REMOTE CONTROL, BY THE WAY IF SOMEONE KNOWS THE PART# FOR THE 30744 REMOTE CONTROL I WILL APRECIATE THAT.
THANKS.

I have Halo 2, Gran Turismo 4 (Japanese version), Soul Calibur 2, and a Psychonauts demo. I'll try them out when I get a chance. I also have a plethora of other games, including Outrun 2, etc. The only time I can test these game is at night, because in the daytime, there's no way to really see the "wavy" pattern with all the sunlight. In any case, it's good to know that the issue can be circumvented for some sources, like HD cable by using an HDMI cable. I'm still po'ed that the problem exist with certain sources as it is. The TV would be even more incredible if it didn't suffer from harsh interference.

Ever since getting the new slim PS2, I have NOT noticed any wavy lines or black lines that looked like distortion. I did with the old PS2 version. Watching DVD movies on the old PS2 was unwatchable! But now, with some PS2 games (mostly during CG scenes) the graphics look very pixilated. And the jaggies are a whole lot more noticeable – but then again, its just the low resolution of the PS2. I purchased a Sony S-Video cable for the PS2 is everything looks perfect! No graphics are pixilated and the jaggies are well hidden. Its not like there are a lot of PS2 games that support progressive scan (and for those few that do, I’ll just keep my PS2 Component cable plugged into the HDTV and replug it back into the PS2).

My suggestion is to use a PS2 S-Video cable for all games except for the few that use progressive scan – use the PS2 Component cable.

Its weird that a Sony brand PS2 S-Video cable is more money than a Sony brand PS2 Component cable.

As a side note, I’m now using DVI to HDMI for my Dish Network receiver and it looks great! I love it! If more and more devices use DVI/HDMI (like say PS3 or Xbox 2), looks like I’ll have to get a HDMI box/switcher or something so that I can connect more than one HDMI source.

Originally posted by Yus


Gran Turismo 4 (PS2, 480p & 1080i): The menus have tons of waveyness (they run in 480i), but there's no waveyness in-game at 1080i (though there is another issue I'll talk about later).

The other big issue with component inputs is "flickering" at 1080i. This is most noticable with Xbox Media Center (I can only see it on the black loading screens in GT4), where there is a dark spot that quickly scrolls across the screen in a left to right motion, creating a flickering effect. Thankfully this can be fixed by turning the TV off for a second, then turning it back on. Again this problem doesn't exist with HDMI.

I also get the flickering at 1080i... it's almost like the refresh rate drops down to where you notice it a lot. The wavyness for me doesn't start right away on 480i in the GT4 menu, but once I switch to 480p it starts up and I can't get it to stop in either 480i or 480p.

how do you tell if its in 480p or 1080i, etc? I've tried all the buttons/menus and I dont see anything like this.

I went and got the Sony PS2 component cables today hoping that would solve my problem, but I dont see a huge difference, other than that the text is clearer and its a little crisper.

Also, what is this AVIA thing you guys keep talking about?

Press info on your remote and here's what you'll see:

480i will display as 544x480(60I), 720x480(60I).. etc.
480p will display as 720x480(60P)
720p will display as 1280x720(60P)
1080i will display as 1920x1080(60I)

AVIA is a DVD for calibrating your set to display the best picture it can.