Anyone know if Home Theater Builder Magazine is still being published? Their website is out of date and the back issue form link was down when I tried today.

HT Builder magazine thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=361143&highlight=ht+builder+magazine)

Thanks!! The search engine didn't turn up the thread. Looks like I'll send my money and take my chances.

Thanks again.

No problem;)

Yes it is still being published with the next issue coming out sometime in november if my memory serves correctly.

Call them. I ordered all the back issues and received them middle of last week (took about 1/2 a week). Pretty good info. Actually quite good. Some familar names from AVS contribute to it.

Max

It's a great magazine. I had moved and somehow my issues hadn't showed up. I called and they sent them all out to me right away.

A++ recommendation.

Originally posted by theritzes
Yes it is still being published with the next issue coming out sometime in november if my memory serves correctly.

November ? I thought this was an every two month publication. My last issue was May 2004.....

I've heard that you can forget waiting for Home Theater Builder Magazine, Issue #11. The parent publishing company is out of business.

Another one bites the dust.....and takes my money with it!

Where'd you find that out?
The last I read (yesterday) was that the mag had just been posted out.
If it has finally been published then there's now only another 25!! issues of my sub left to go.

The latest issue is out and on the way to subscribers & newsstands.

Posted yesterday here.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=229482&pagenumber=2

I'll believe it when it shows up in my mailbox! HTB had such promise <sigh>...

I emailed them about 2 weeks ago to find out the status of issue 11, they replied back the next day saying the issue was just finished, and was sent to the printers. I haven't seen or heard anything since. I will believe it when its in my box :(

Ed

I have lost my subscription $$ in AV Interiors and what now appears to be HT Builder. :(

Craig

I have lost my subscription $$ in AV Interiors and what now appears to be HT Builder. :(

CraigAll is not lost... :rolleyes:

Just wanted to pop in and let people know that I received the latest issue of HTB today.

The cover is labeled as "Fall 2005", so it may be they are going to a quarterly vs. monthly publication, though nothing inside the mag would give this indication. I did note that on the mailing label the subscription expiration date is 4/1/2009. I pulled out my older copies of HTB and sure enough my original expiration date was 10/31/2005, exactly three years after I purchased a 36 month subscription. Then in September 2003 it changed to 8/27/2006 which would coincide with them going to bi-monthly publication. the fact that it is now pushed out to 2009 is a pretty good indication of quarterly publication.

That being said, I still think this is a great magazine (when it's available!) and I'm glad to see the publishers trying to fulfill their subscription obligations, albeit over an extended period of time. Hopefully whatever troubles have plagued them can be resolved as it appears they have good content available. they just need to get it into print.

Be sure to check it out if you get the chance as it features fellow AVS member Darren Mortensen's (aka "ImListening") Cyberdyne Cinema (http://gallery.avsforum.com/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=10422). Kudos and congrats! http://members.shaw.ca/wenpigsfly/smileys/thumb.gif

Thanks for the update Chip.

I haven't seen the new issue yet, although we had discussed quite sometime ago about an article concerning our Cyberdyne Cinema. Yes, I too agree and hope that we will continue to see more issues of this fine magazine!

I just got one - Fall 2005. I has been a while since the last issue, but I guess they are still alive.

Roman

Got mine in the mail today as well. Long time in coming and you know what? I didn't find the issue very inspiring. Other than the great article about Darren's Cyberdyne Theater (now THAT is a theater! :) ), none of the articles really grabbed me. I noticed that they didn't have any letters to the editor. Maybe they were all too negative.

My subscription label says 1/2006. I don't know if that is correct or not. I thought I signed up for a 12 month subscription, but it's been so long and I bought all of the back issues, that I have lost track of how long of a subscription I did buy. :(

Still, I do like the magazine and will probably re-subscribe. I don't think I will get a reminder card in the mail to do so, and I will have to contact them.

John

I am not a subscriber but I have picked up all the copies either through Chapters or the back order web page. I'm curiuos did the pilot project finish? What are the do it yourself topics/projects?

Uxbridge:

On page 8, there is listed a bunch of features coming in future issues. They do mention this: "And Pilot Project will return! You'll see Chris Dotur's completed home theater and the final steps it took to get there." I hope that these features are really published and not just a "wish list". This magazine has shown us a lot of great information.

The do-it-yourself projects are "Tuning your Home Theater", "Colors and Materials", "Multimedia Platform", and "Duct Treatment for Home Theaters". The main focus of the issue is "Having Fun with your Home Theater". Think gaming.

John

JSwarce:

Thanks for the info, I will call Chapters tomorrow to keep an eye out for a copy.

Bill

Got mine in the mail today as well. Long time in coming and you know what? I didn't find the issue very inspiring. Other than the great article about Darren's Cyberdyne Theater (now THAT is a theater! :) ), none of the articles really grabbed me. I noticed that they didn't have any letters to the editor. Maybe they were all too negative.

My subscription label says 1/2006. I don't know if that is correct or not. I thought I signed up for a 12 month subscription, but it's been so long and I bought all of the back issues, that I have lost track of how long of a subscription I did buy. :(

Still, I do like the magazine and will probably re-subscribe. I don't think I will get a reminder card in the mail to do so, and I will have to contact them.

John

Got my issue in the mail yesterday and I agree with John, it was not a very inspiring issue. I hope that this does not bode ill for the future issues if they happen.

Skipp

I emailed HTB yesterday about my 12 month subscription that I got in August of 2003 and how long I had left on it (the label says 2/2006 for an expiration date, and the current issue is only my seventh issue received). Got back a reply today from Andy Crosby, the COO of the magazine....

Hi John:

We are going through the process of updating the expiration dates. You will receive all 12 issues in your subscription.

Thank you
Sincerely,

Andy Crosby
COO

Flying Cloud Press, Inc.
Publisher of "Home Theater Builder"
PO Box 552
Stow, MA 01775

P: (978) 567-9533
F: (978) 567-9532
E: acrosby@hometheaterbuilder.com
W: www.hometheaterbuilder.com



So all is not lost. i just wish we had a more definite release schedule! Quarterly issues from now on?

John

On page 06 of the current issue at the bottom of the Magazines information column it clearly states that: Basic subscription rates: 5 issues U.S. $10.95, Canada $18.95 . As does the Subscription Insert between pages 10 & 11.

So we can expect 5 issues per year, yes, I wish it were monthly... but I have seen each issue grow larger in content, so hopefully it may expand to a monthly issue.

There is a nice article entitled "Tuning Your Home Theater" by Arthur Noxon of Acoustic Sciences Corp. He addresses the acoustic quality of a room and what effects a room will have on audio reproduction.

Also another very interesting topic that we see often revived here at AVS entitled "Duct Treatment for Home Theaters", this brief article discusses HVAC and the possibility of unwanted audio transmission thru your homes air ducts.

I also noted some new, up-scale manufacturers and dealers advertising the pages of HTB; this income with hopefully insure continued growth for a magazine of great potential.

Darren,

Great article! It was good to see your theatre featured in the magazine.

I got my FALL 2005 issue yesterday in the mail..
P.S im in Sydney, AU

I live in Finland (Northern Europe) and received mine tuesday. For me the most interesting article was the Cyberdyne Cinema Inspiration. Lot´s of drama and a nice HT.

First post :)

This is a great magazine when they put it out.
I will be checking my mail tonight. :)

Craig

STUNNED is more like it. :eek: This is my first issue in 2 years! I hope they keep up with it.

Great article on modes by the ASC guy - thought it was even more of a primer than the Acoustical Handbook as far as staying away from the math.

So how can we tell how many issues left on our subscription.

So how can we tell how many issues left on our subscription. Not sure you can tell how many issues you have left unless you know how many years you subscribed for and how many issues you've already received. (if I'm not mistaken there have been (11) eleven issues including the most recent "Fall 2005" issue)

You can, however, determine when your subscription is due to end. See my post (#15) above. Your scheduled expiration date should be listed on the mailing label.

Well mine is 4/1/2005....yet I got this issue.

Well mine is 4/1/2005....yet I got this issue.

That's encouraging, because I paid for a full year, just got my second issue, and it claims on the label my expiration is 1/2006. I suppose they still have some adjusting to do...

Got mine in WI today. :D

That's encouraging, because I paid for a full year, just got my second issue, and it claims on the label my expiration is 1/2006. I suppose they still have some adjusting to do...Check post #23 on the first page of this thread. Another member inquired about this and apparently they are in the process of updating their subscription information. (I missed this earlier)

Check post #23 on the first page of this thread. Another member inquired about this and apparently they are in the process of updating their subscription information. (I missed this earlier)

Yep. I saw that post. That's actually what I meant by "still have some adjusting to do", but I wasn't very clear. Thanks.

Just got mine last night.
Have not had the chance to look it over, but it looks like it will be a great read.

Craig

Home Theater Building magazine has arrived in Oakville.
There was much dancing in the streets.

I got mine too. I'm looking forward to reading the latest article on beta vs VHS. Or was that in the last issue? ;)

Ron

Everyone is a winner.

Just received in Woodbridge, Ontario too.

i still have not received mine yet......sniff sniff

I got mine, but the content unfortunately is lacking. It's a shame because I really wanted it to be a long lasting magazine. If it keeps up like this it will not make it.

Clay :(

Mr. Crosby,

Please admit that Flying Cloud Press and Home Theater Builder are dead. No more lies.

You took our money and failed to deliver the goods. Good luck flipping burgers at your next job.

Peter at Home Theater Professionals, Inc.

I'd say it is officially dead.

Haven't seen or heard anything in ages...

I never subscribed, just picked them up at the bookstores when I could fine them.

I have:

1.1 Dec2002
1.2 Feb2003
1.3 Mar2003
1.4 Apr2003
1.5 Jul2003
1.6 Sep2003
1.7 Nov2003
2.1 Feb2004
2.3 Nov2004

So, I guess I'm missing 2.2 and the last issue Fall 2005, if anyone wants to get rid of these two, please PM, as I'd like to have them.

It's a shame what happened with this magazine, as it had potential. Home theaters are beginning to really catch on in the US and elsewhere.

PS: Sorry to bring this thread from the dead, but I just ran across an issue in my house and it got me thinking about it.....

I still refer to my back issues once in a while. Good magazine while it lasted! The website was still up as of yesterday (says they are switching to a new server (most of the links are dead)), but I am not holding my breath for the next issue.

John

I liked this magazine while it was around. Since they have our money, it would be nice if they would at least come clean and admit that it's over. ANY communication on the subject would be appreciated by most of their subscribers (for sure by me). Anyone???

I liked this magazine while it was around. Since they have our money, it would be nice if they would at least come clean and admit that it's over. ANY communication on the subject would be appreciated by most of their subscribers (for sure by me). Anyone???

I agree they should let us know

If the fat lady sings and turns out the lights in an empty room is the party really over?

If the fat lady sings and turns out the lights in an empty room is the party really over?


Hahahaha...
I think the fat lady is Yodeling!!!

Craig

Yeah there are wine glasses shattering all around me as I type this. I got one whole magazine out of a 2 year subscription.

Class Action ?

oops never mind. bad google bad google. Left out the word builder in the search.

When did Primedia become the parent company? I thought it was a private company?

Do you realize we are talking about Home Theatre Builder magazine - not Home Theater magazine which is a Primedia magazine still cranking out monthly issues....

Anyone has heard or read anything about these guys at Home Theater Builder Magazine ? I've searched but have not found any claims of closing or bankruptcy ...


I want my 10 issues :D :mad:

I'm still amazed that they are keeping their webpage up, when we know the magazine is dead. I wonder if they are still accepting subscriptions from any unsuspecting people?

--John

I'm still amazed that they are keeping their webpage up, when we know the magazine is dead. I wonder if they are still accepting subscriptions from any unsuspecting people?

--John

The subscription buttons aren't working. The COO's email is dead. They've been upgrading to a new server for almost a year.....I just want my money back :rolleyes:

Seeing how the company is a few towns away from, I might go for a drive furing vacaton to see if I can an office or see if something else is there...has anyone tried calling to see if the phone number is still active? I should call myself seeing how it is a few towns away...I wll let people know what I find....mmmmaybe there is some good shopping nearby so the wife won't complain about the road trip????

I'm still waiting for them to fulfill my subscription. I've called and emailed and all I get are empty promises from Lee Pappas. Apparently his word is NOT his bond.... how disappointing. Don't waste your money on anything associated with him or his magazines...

I'm still waiting for them to fulfill my subscription. I've called and emailed and all I get are empty promises from Lee Pappas. Apparently his word is NOT his bond.... how disappointing. Don't waste your money on anything associated with him or his magazines...


Wow. I have not received any issues in a very long time. I surprised he returned your email at all.

Flying Cloud Press Inc

33 Hickory Ln
Stow, MA , 01775-2129
Phone: 978-897-6925
FAX: 978-567-9532

Actually this was several months ago that I've heard from him.... just now decided to publicly "out" him for his lack of integrity....

I have a brother who is a lawyer who said if we can get enough members that he would file a class action suit against Lee Pappas, Andy Crosby and Flying Cloud Press. We wouldn't get much more than our money back but imagine the satisfaction of nailing these crooks.

Any interested members to a class action, please respond to this post.

Peter

I have a brother who is a lawyer who said if we can get enough members that he would file a class action suit against Lee Pappas, Andy Crosby and Flying Cloud Press. We wouldn't get much more than our money back but imagine the satisfaction of nailing these crooks.

Any interested members to a class action, please respond to this post.

Peter

I think if they don't speak publicly about this in the next two weeks, that's exactly what we should do.

I think these guys are pretty good guys for the most part, but I don't like to be left hanging and I'm getting real tired of it.

My vote is they have 2 weeks to either give us a reasonable ship date, or tell us the magazine is dead and refund the balance they owe us. Or, we act against them and attempt to get all our money back.

Clay

As some one who has been in litigation on a few occasions, you guys are crazy. It is way too much hassle to consider over some subscription dollars. Your money is gone. Just my opinion.

I agree with Dave, move on people, it was a good magazine but probably underfunded and went kaput. I don't really think they made millions and are now living it up in Brazil.

McCall, No one said they are rich.

Dave, You're wrong about the class action. The lawyers decide if there is money to be made. They make it absolutely miserable for the defendants, the plaintiffs usually get practically nothing. Except some satisfaction.

All I want is for someone to say I'm sorry, we failed, we tried, and there is no more magazine, or we're shipping on this date.
Other wise, let the feeding begin and take out who ever is left.

Clay

Having been a member of far too many class actions, you need to keep your expectations REALLY low. After legal and administrative fees your best hope is a coupon for a discount on their next venture.

Your best hope is to find out what other business the original publisher is active in and ask for an equivalent value of service. Maybe you can get 2 free months of The National Beekeeping Journal.

The only one who prosper in a law suit is the lawyers. And there is always more then one.

Peter/Clay - I'm with you guys.... and I think it has more to do with ethics than anything else. It was a great magazine (thanks to the contributers) but frankly it looks like its failure has come down to poor management.

Perhaps it could be handled by a direct letter to Flying Cloud Press, Inc. and after getting either no response or the usual run-around we follow up with a complaint to the Massachusetts Attorney General...

Or perhaps, as Clay has suggested, an apology from Pappas et al.

Dan

I agree with the apology option. I long ago gave up on getting anything more than the 3 issues I received out of a 3 year subscription. It would be nice to just to have closure.

Skipp

although i did finally get all the back orders that i paid for ... my subscription was never fullfilled... i would just be happy knowing one way or another that either they went under and sorry we tried and failed.. or that other issues will be comeing in the mail shortly!!


But i know there is no money to be seen in the form of a refund...