The boxes always had the HDMI connection but there was an issue where it wasn't working. Has this been corrected?

Decided to try AT&T Uverse out. Placed my order the install is scheduled for 12/31. We shall see how this works out, I like the idea of a whole house DVR and future linking of VOIP and other services managed both from the internet and your TV. Will be interested in seeing how they execute this.stonecrd, I for one, am very interested in hearing about your experiences! The installation, the equipment, the HD PQ and the overall service!

U-verse is not yet available in my area and if it they should ever bring it here, I would want to give it a thorough examination. Although, as I have stated previously, the two (only) stream HD and the reported poor quality HD (especially on larger sets) is of a concern.

Looking forward to hearing more from you!

Though I no longer live in Miami, I saw on my favorite TV news blog that WTVJ will not be sold to Post-Newsweek. What do you guys think of this? I thought it was great; I always enjoyed WTVJ's news coverage, and thought it was the best of South Florida.

I am in an Aventura Condo (w. Comcast) where we get HBO, SHO and Starz incl. in our HOA dues. My question is: Should Comcast be givning me a discount on the second DVR (paying $13.95 each for 2 DVRs now. What about a simple converter box so I can pick up the premium channels - should they charge extra for that if i want one?
It's hard finding a pricing list - but it appears they do not offer any hardware pg. discounts.

Another question - maybe in wrong forum: Since they changed the software to a harder to use ver. when doing a "search by title" search - it appears you can't pull up future showings of a movie or program while that movie is still showing. Is that true, now, or is there a work around?

...mike

I think the idea of getting a discount on your hardware is determined by the deal that your HOA has with Comcast. Most deals that I've heard about with HOA's is usually just a discount or free service. Maybe ask your management company for your HOA if they are the ones handling the cable and see what they tell you. They'll probably corroborate what Comcast told you that they do not have an agreement on hardware discounts.

Does anybody know when our local ABC, CBS, and FOX stations will start broadcasting their news in HD?

The Miami news market is pathetic when it comes to HD. Its the end of 2008 and we only have NBC broadcasting its news in HD. WPB, which is a smaller market than Miami, has most of their local stations news in HD. Rant over.

Though I no longer live in Miami, I saw on my favorite TV news blog that WTVJ will not be sold to Post-Newsweek. What do you guys think of this? I thought it was great; I always enjoyed WTVJ's news coverage, and thought it was the best of South Florida.

I, for one, am thrilled that this sale is not happening. I am fond of the NBC 6 News staff and I was worried that they would be let go.

I just hope that WTVJ will fix it's equipment so that HD programs won't keep switching back to SD. This has been a chronic problem with WTVJ during NBC programs.

Does anybody know when our local ABC, CBS, and FOX stations will start broadcasting their news in HD?

The Miami news market is pathetic when it comes to HD. Its the end of 2008 and we only have NBC broadcasting its news in HD. WPB, which is a smaller market than Miami, has most of their local stations news in HD. Rant over.

The last that I heard was WPLG is building a new facility and expects to have it operational by the February 17 transition date. I don't know what is going on with WFOR. I'm hoping that they will soon have HD news as well. I noticed that they now show Insider Weekend in HD. This is the first time I'm seeing syndicated shows in HD...Something that WTVJ and WPLG are not doing yet.

The last that I heard was WPLG is building a new facility and expects to have it operational by the February 17 transition date. I don't know what is going on with WFOR. I'm hoping that they will soon have HD news as well. I noticed that they now show Insider Weekend in HD. This is the first time I'm seeing syndicated shows in HD...Something that WTVJ and WPLG are not doing yet.After inquiring a short while ago, I received an e-mail from WPLG indicating that they'd be going local HD hopefully in March. No idea what's going on with WFOR, but there have been rumors that WSVN will go local HD very soon. Re WSVN, I'll believe it when I see it.

Looks like comcast changed from PBS ch17 analog to digital. No longer getting any TV guide info on my Samsung. Been trying to get it somewhere else (CBS-HD) with no luck. Anybody getting it OTA or on cable? :mad:

rkc9999:

Here in Plantation, with Comcast, channel 17 is still WLRN (as it always has been) although it is also duplicated on channel 94. Interestingly enough the ch 17 version is part of ADS while ch 94 appears to be pure analog!

TVGOS means nothing to me, I’m afraid!

Personally I can’t wait for them to start moving the analog channels to digital. That is probably the only way they will be able to add more HD channels!

AT&T vowed to make its U-verse TV service available to more homes on an ongoing basis when it first launched in South Florida, and expand it has. One tipster down in sunny Ft. Lauderdale just received a postcard in the mail informing him that the service was available for his domicile, and upon investigating, he found that it was actually available now for the majority of Broward County (including Ft. Lauderdale, Deerfield / Pompano Beach, Coconut Creek, Margate, Coral Springs, and Davie).
http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/12/30/atandts-u-verse-tv-expands-to-more-south-florida-homes/

Anobody gave it a try yet?

So yesterday I had U-Verse installed here is summary of how things went.

Customer Service - this was very good, I got a heads up call two days before the install from the outside line installer saying he would be getting the line to the house in place. I got two calls prior to installation day confirming the install and the inside installer called and showed up right on time

Equipment & Line - I have 25Mb line to the house the install included (1) 2Wire 3800HGV-B Router, (1) Cisco IPN430MC PVR (160GB drive) and (3) Cisco IPN330HD STBs. U200 package

Installation - took 8 hours total. I asked them to leave the cable in place and run Cat5. The tech worked for three hours trying to establish the cable runs but it ended up being too difficult so we went with plan B which was to use the existing cable connections. Since I could not get the Cat5 they gave me a six month discount on the service. The connections were pretty straight forward the router has a RG6 and runs bidirectional, the signal is then split and back fed to the rooms through the existing RG6.

Needed to switch my existing old Bellsouth email accounts to the ATT Yahoo they have an upgrade for this and it preserved all of my saved mail etc.

All my existing computers and PS3s connected to the internet via wireless and my I/O speeds look right on at 3Mb down and 1Mb up which is what I paid for.

My Harmony 550 was easily programmed for the Cisco PVR and works perfectly.

Service - I have only spent about 3hrs watching but the HD looks as good as Advanced Cable's, I will watch some football today to get a better feel. The SD content looks fine certainly better than the cable analog stuff.

The channel guide and recorder is very easy to use and I really like the ability to watch recordings in any room. So I can pause in the family room and then resume watching in my bedroom. The installer said they would be coming out with drives in each box so in the future you will not have to share disk space. You can also schedule recordings over the web from anywhere via their website.

Overall I am happy so far, my only real concern is whether the (4) TV streams will be an issue, especially with only (2) HD. I will provide some additional updates as I get more time with the service, I am also looking into the VOIP when that becomes available.

The biggest issue with U-Verse , IMO, is the limit of 1 HD recording and 1 DVR per household.

stonecrd - Which package did you get? How many HD channels do you have?

stonecrd - Which package did you get? How many HD channels do you have?

I have the U200 pkg($59+$10 HD), total HD not including the premium movie channels is ~47 and includes both the Miami and WPB locals.

I noticed Comcast has WBFS33 in HD which D* doesn't. Did you guys get MLBHD?

Hey Doom.....Did you get MLBHD? We did get MLB on channel 291 (I think)...but it is not in HD.

Hey Doom.....Did you get MLBHD? We did get MLB on channel 291 (I think)...but it is not in HD.

Is the MLB Network even available in HD? I never heard that it was.

I have the U200 pkg($59+$10 HD), total HD not including the premium movie channels is ~47 and includes both the Miami and WPB locals.

West Palm Beach locals too?? WOW! That's great! I wish Comcast would give us that.

I would make the switch, but I have a Tivo HD that lets me record two HD programs at once. I'm not giving THAT up.

West Palm Beach locals too?? WOW! That's great! I wish Comcast would give us that.

I would make the switch, but I have a Tivo HD that lets me record two HD programs at once. I'm not giving THAT up.

Just to be clear on the pvr, you can record up to 4 streams at one time but only 2 HD. It is basically the same as watching, you get the 4 streams to either watch or record, if you try to watch or record a third HD stream or a fifth total stream you get a message asking if you want to interupt.

So you could record two HD shows but you could only watch a SD channel if you did that.

... So you could record two HD shows but you could only watch a SD channel if you did that.Does that mean that you cannot watch one of the HD streams while it is being recorded? Seems strange if that is the case but maybe it's just me being rather slow!

How's the HD PQ? What size screen do you have?

Does that mean that you cannot watch one of the HD streams while it is being recorded? Seems strange if that is the case but maybe it's just me being rather slow!

How's the HD PQ? What size screen do you have?

You get two HD streams so can watch one while recording another or you could watch a recording while recording two other HD channels & two SD channels

I have a 60" DLP and picture quality might be a bit worse on some content but for most things I don't notice any difference. I believe U-verse uses 9Mb for HD and MPEG4 compression

stonecrd

Do you know if ATT is already offering the 18Mbps DSL as an option for U-Verse customers ?

Thanks

Thank you stonecrd for your response, I appreciate it!

I’m sorry to belabor the point but just so I am perfectly clear on this, you say “You get two HD streams so can watch one while recording another …”. To me this seems to say that you cannot watch and record a single HD stream at the same time! If you wished to do this you would need both HD streams tuned to the same channel – watching one stream and recording the other stream! Is this the case?

I’m sorry if I appear somewhat dense here but this is really important to me! I expect to get a second HDTV in a month or so and I was thinking I could live with two HD streams (until they added more) but if you can only watch or record (and not both) a single stream at a time then I’m not so sure!

Of course, this is all moot until U-verse comes to my area!

Thank you for your patience!

It's unlikely ATT will "add more" HD at the same time. U-Verse is old, cheap technology limited by bandwidth. Don't think U-Verse is like FIOS, 12 times more expensive to deploy. They had a limit of 1 HD streaming and now it's 2 but they had to squeeze it using the same bandwith.Google U-Verse reviews and see how many people are disappointed with the picture and restrictions.

Has anyone been having OTA reception issues with HD/DTV transmissions starting about a week ago to present? I'm in NMBeach and up until last week the selection and reception has been fantastic. Wondering if maybe my antenna has taken a dum....p! Tim

....Google U-Verse reviews and see how many people are disappointed with the picture and restrictions.I think most are aware of this! All you need do is follow AVS' thread here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=700011

However, when a new option becomes available (or, in my case, will hopefully become available) I like to understand it as well as I can. Even if it should become available to me, I doubt, right now, that I would be overly interested. But I stilll want to know about it!

Thank you stonecrd for your response, I appreciate it!

I’m sorry to belabor the point but just so I am perfectly clear on this, you say “You get two HD streams so can watch one while recording another …”. To me this seems to say that you cannot watch and record a single HD stream at the same time! If you wished to do this you would need both HD streams tuned to the same channel – watching one stream and recording the other stream! Is this the case?

I’m sorry if I appear somewhat dense here but this is really important to me! I expect to get a second HDTV in a month or so and I was thinking I could live with two HD streams (until they added more) but if you can only watch or record (and not both) a single stream at a time then I’m not so sure!

Of course, this is all moot until U-verse comes to my area!

Thank you for your patience!

No problem, yes you can watch and record the same HD channel at the same time. In fact U-verse definition of an HD stream is based on different channels. You can have more than two TVs watching HD as long as they are watching the same channel.

slimoli - 18Mb was an option but I just stayed with what I had 3Mb/1Mb. I also don't consider it old technology it is Fiber like FIOS just a different way to implement (TP copper from VRAD to house). Currently my line is provisioned at 25Mb abd capped at 60Mb so I am only using about 43% of the bandwidth that I should theoretically be able to get. Moore's law still seems to be working so I expect the technology to improve. Also if you look today there are a lot of different opinions on HD quality from every provider and this is pretty location specific. In my case I am happy with the U-verse picture quality and that is all that matters to me.

Go Miami Dolphins!!!

I read a few earlier post about HD OTA broadcasting in S FL. I live in the NMBch area. For the record, since I set up my Sammy HDTV in April 08 and programed/searched OTA channels, I recieved HD programing on: 2,4,6,7,10,17,23,25,27,29,33,35,39,44,45,46,51,58,63,69 and others that I deleted. I got a total of 50 something analog and digital channels. Some of the channels mostly 17 and 44 came and went often.
Up until last week that is. Which is the reason for my earlier post today regarding current OTA HD reception issues? Is anyone else having OTA DTV reception problems? Oh well... my 2 cents worth. Tim

I read a few earlier post about HD OTA broadcasting in S FL. I live in the NMBch area. For the record, since I set up my Sammy HDTV in April 08 and programed/searched OTA channels, I recieved HD programing on: 2,4,6,7,10,17,23,25,27,29,33,35,39,44,45,46,51,58,63,69 and others that I deleted. I got a total of 50 something analog and digital channels. Some of the channels mostly 17 and 44 came and went often.
Up until last week that is. Which is the reason for my earlier post today regarding current OTA HD reception issues? Is anyone else having OTA DTV reception problems? Oh well... my 2 cents worth. TimNo OTA problems at all up here in central Broward. 44 goes off once in a while, but that's them and not your set or antenna.

I read a news release today, seems that WLRN-DT will be launching MHz WorldView as a subchannel on Monday.

- Trip

Hey Doom.....Did you get MLBHD? We did get MLB on channel 291 (I think)...but it is not in HD.

Yeah we got it in HD on launch. However in all fairness from what I'm reading, D* has a major stake in MLBHD so it was imminent. The PQ is fantastic. I recorded the first hour from the 1st. Their studio show looked fantastic. They replayed the Philly/TB WS last night.

I read a news release today, seems that WLRN-DT will be launching MHz WorldView as a subchannel on Monday.

- Trip

Well, I read the news release again, it will not be on a subchannel, but rather on WLRN's cable channel. That's too bad.

- Trip

Any news about CNN-HD or FOX NEWS-HD from Miami Comcast????

For those interested this is the current HD lineup from U-verse

5StarMax HD*
A&E HD*
ATMAX*
ATMax HD*
ActionMAX*
ActionMAX HD - West*
ActionMax HD*
Animal Planet HD*
Big Ten Network HD*
Bravo HD*
CNBC HD*
CNN HD*
Cinemax HD*
Cinemax HD - West*
CMT HD
Comedy HD
Discovery Channel HD*
DIS HD Disney High Definition (HD) Cable
DXDHD Disney XD High Definition (HD)
E HD*
ESPN HD*
ESPN2 HD*
ESN HD ESPN News High Definition (HD)
ESNUHD ESPN University High Definition (HD)
Encore HD*
FAM HD
FSN Florida Alternate HD*
FSN Florida HD*
FX Network HD*
Food Network HD*
Fox Business Network HD*
G4 HD*
Golf HD*
HBO Comedy HD*
HBO Family*
HBO Family HD*
HBO Family HD - West*
HBO HD*
HBO HD - West*
HBO Latino HD*
HBO Signature HD*
HBO Signature HD - West*
HBO Zone HD*
HBO Zone HD - West*
HBO2*
HBO2 HD*
HBO2 HD - West*
HD Theater*
HDNet*
HDNet Movies*
HGTV HD*
Lifetime Movie Network HD*
Lifetime Television HD*
MGM HD*
MoreMAX HD - West*
MoreMax HD*
MTV HD
NFL Network HD*
NHL Network HD*
Nick HD
National Geographic Channel HD*
Outdoor Channel HD*
OuterMax HD*
Planet Green HD*
Sci Fi Channel HD*
Science Channel HD*
Showtime Extreme HD*
Showtime HD*
Showtime HD - West*
Showtime Showcase HD*
Showtime Too HD*
Smithsonian Channel HD*
Spike HD
Starz Comedy HD*
Starz Edge*
Starz Edge HD*
Starz HD*
Starz HD - West*
Starz Kids & Family HD*
Starz inBlack*
Style HD*
Sun Sports HD*
Sun Sports HD Alternate*
TBS HD*
TMC Xtra HD*
TNT HD*
The Learning Channel HD*
The Movie Channel HD*
The Weather Channel HD*
ThrillerMAX HD - West*
ThrillerMax HD*
Travel Channel HD*
USA Network HD*
Universal HD*
VERSUS HD*
VH1 HD
WBFS-HD-33 (MY NETWORK TV)*
WFLX-HD-29 (FOX WPB)*
WFOR-HD-4 (CBS Miami)*
WGN America HD*
WHDT-LP-HD-44 (IND)*
WLRN-HD-17 (PBS)*
WMAX HD*
WPBT-HD-2 (PBS)*
WPEC-HD-12 (CBS WPB)*
WPLG-HD-10 (ABC Miami)*
WPTV-HD-5 (NBC WPB)*
WSCV-HD-51 (TEL)*
WSFL-HD-39 (THE CW)*
WSVN-HD-7 (FOX Miami)*
WTVJ-HD-6 (NBC Miami)*
Wealth TV HD*
Yes HD

How do you like the picture quality versus cable or sat?

How do you like the picture quality versus cable or sat?

I watched a lot of HD this weekend and for 98% of the shows I really noticed no difference between my cable and U-verse. On sports a few times I noticed some motion artifacts. I am viewing on a 61" Samsung DLP 1080p set. I will also say I am not super critical about looking for every little issue with my picture or sound. So far no one in my home has noticed a picture quality difference.

Thanx 97Strat for the info. Found a bad connector. OTA 48 channels. DTV signals in mid to high 90s. Tim

Any news about CNN-HD or FOX NEWS-HD from Miami Comcast????
Comcast in Bkly, Ca. has CNN-HD. I watch CNN a lot both in Ca. and Aventura. I gave up watching tuning CNN-HD in Ca because very little HD is on CNN. I didn't want the 4:3 picture on my 116:9 plasma for long periods of time. Besides, news in HD is kind of a waste of resources.

...mike

I'm spoiled trying to read text, especially the crawl, in fuzzy SD. :p

BREAKING NEWS: Channel 7(WSVN) news is in HD as of 5 pm on Sunday. PQ looks very good.

BREAKING NEWS: Channel 7(WSVN) news is in HD as of 5 pm on Sunday. PQ looks very good.

That's great...now if they'd only stop stretching their other local shows.

BREAKING NEWS: Channel 7(WSVN) news is in HD as of 5 pm on Sunday. PQ looks very good.

Turned it on this morning-- picture was frozen on the weather guy, but audio was fine. Hope they get the bugs worked out.

BREAKING NEWS: Channel 7(WSVN) news is in HD as of 5 pm on Sunday. PQ looks very good.Just a few comments in no particular order..

HD Graphics are simply stunning, although I think the captions (don't know if that's the correct term) under the anchors/reporters could use some improvement. I'm talking about the bars on the bottom that contain the anchor/reporter's name and a blurb about the current story, and the 7 logo in the bottom right corner with the time/temperature.

Lighting and/or makeup on the anchors seems weird. Anchors don't look as "natural" as those on WTVJ-DT.

WSVN-DT is still stretching non-HD content (as jstrazz pointed out), which is a shame. Even the 4:3 commercials are still being stretched. Sheesh!

I've heard from different sources that WPLG-DT will be going local HD around March or so, but what's happening with WFOR-DT? I haven't heard anything about them.

ION HD launch date somewhere in 1st Quarter 2009 according to sources. We will see..

OTA 35.1 & 67.1

ION HD launch date somewhere in 1st Quarter 2009 according to sources. We will see..

OTA 35.1 & 67.1Now that would be cool, but do they have any true HD content to broadcast?

And what happens to 35.2, 35.3, 35.4 given the bandwidth requirements for 35.1? Not that we really need (or watch) those channels...

I just got my new Toshiba Regza 32" HDTV this week, I'm using its QAM tuner, It finds all the local channels in SD, But it can't seem to find several of the HD versions, I can only get Channel 6(WTVJ-DT), Channel 7(WSVN-DT), Channel 39(WFSLDT1), and Channel 33(WBFSDT1), I'm missing Channel 4(WFOR-DT) and Channel 10(WPLG-DT). I'm using Comcast.

Using the ATSC tuner and an antenna, I can get WFOR-DT but unable get WSVN-DT and WPLG-DT

Now that would be cool, but do they have any true HD content to broadcast?

And what happens to 35.2, 35.3, 35.4 given the bandwidth requirements for 35.1? Not that we really need (or watch) those channels...

Maybe will they have 35.1 ION HD, 35.2 & 35.3 QUBO/ION LIFE in a split HD schedule. Not sure what will happen with 35.4.

ION TV upgrade to HD in 1st quarter 2009.
QUBO/ION LIFE expected HD upgrade later in 2009.

Maybe will they have 35.1 ION HD, 35.2 & 35.3 QUBO/ION LIFE in a split HD schedule. Not sure what will happen with 35.4.

ION TV upgrade to HD in 1st quarter 2009.
QUBO/ION LIFE expected HD upgrade later in 2009.If I'm not mistaken, there's only enough bandwidth for two multicast channels when the primary is HD. Due to the limited bandwidth, the secondary is forced to remain SD.

IOW, if 35.1 is HD, 35.2 would be SD and the rest would be history.

If I'm not mistaken, there's only enough bandwidth for two multicast channels when the primary is HD. Due to the limited bandwidth, the secondary is forced to remain SD.

IOW, if 35.1 is HD, 35.2 would be SD and the rest would be history.

Not so. Plenty of stations multicast lots of SD subs with HD (Example: WTVX-DT 34). Even in Miami, WPBT has two SD subs along with its HD. It's just that the picture quality usually takes a hit.

From what I heard, qubo and ION Life would be made available in HD on cable, but not OTA. That was a while ago though, so who knows if that's how it'll turn out.

- Trip

Did WFOR-DT and WPLG-DT become encrypted? Cause for some reason, my HDTV's QAM is not picking up both of those stations and I can only receive WTVJ-DT Channel 6 and WSVN-DT Channel 7.

I'm using Comcast.

Not so. Plenty of stations multicast lots of SD subs with HD (Example: WTVX-DT 34). Even in Miami, WPBT has two SD subs along with its HD. It's just that the picture quality usually takes a hit.

From what I heard, qubo and ION Life would be made available in HD on cable, but not OTA. That was a while ago though, so who knows if that's how it'll turn out.

- TripYou're absolutely right - what I should've said was that there is only room for a single HD channel in a multicast situation. And it's true (at least in the case of WPBT-DT) that the picture quality takes the hit, at least in the SD subs.

Did WFOR-DT and WPLG-DT become encrypted? Cause for some reason, my HDTV's QAM is not picking up both of those stations and I can only receive WTVJ-DT Channel 6 and WSVN-DT Channel 7.

I'm using Comcast.Was at my folks' place yesterday (they have Comcast), and I did a rescan on the TV because they're turning in their digital box (my mom thinks it's too obtrusive, and I can't say I blame her).

Most (if not all) OTA stations were available unencrypted just using the cable without a box. For sure, WFOR-DT and WPLG-DT are there.

If you haven't already, you might want to do a rescan. From what I understand, Comcast plays the shell game with the digital channels through the wire (no box).

Was at my folks' place yesterday (they have Comcast), and I did a rescan on the TV because they're turning in their digital box (my mom thinks it's too obtrusive, and I can't say I blame her).

Most (if not all) OTA stations were available unencrypted just using the cable without a box. For sure, WFOR-DT and WPLG-DT are there.

If you haven't already, you might want to do a rescan. From what I understand, Comcast plays the shell game with the digital channels through the wire (no box).
I did multiple rescans and even changed the cables, It still doesn't detect those two channels., The only local channels that I receive in HD are WSVN-DT, WTVJ-DT, WBFS-DT, WFSL-DT, and WPBT-DT.

It finds WFOR and WPLG in Standard Definition, But not the High Definition versions of them.

The channel frequencies on this Toshiba Regza 32" are different, WSVN-DT is 112-1 and WTVJ-DT is 118-432.

Theres no way to tune into the frequencies for the two missing HD channels cause it doesn't find them in the scans.

I did multiple rescans and even changed the cables, It still doesn't detect those two channels., The only local channels that I receive in HD are WSVN-DT, WTVJ-DT, WBFS-DT, WFSL-DT, and WPBT-DT.

It finds WFOR and WPLG in Standard Definition, But not the High Definition versions of them.

The channel frequencies on this Toshiba Regza 32" are different, WSVN-DT is 112-1 and WTVJ-DT is 118-432.

Theres no way to tune into the frequencies for the two missing HD channels cause it doesn't find them in the scans.

My HD ch. 10 shows up at 86-431 & HD ch. 4 at 85-433.

Maybe you have a weak cable signal? Connect tv directly to main cable line entering house before any splitter or amplifier.

My HD ch. 10 shows up at 86-431 & HD ch. 4 at 85-433.

Maybe you have a weak cable signal? Connect tv directly to main cable line entering house before any splitter or amplifier.
WTVJ Standard Definition is showing as 94-1,WSVN Standard Definition is showing as 89-10,and WPLG Standard Definition is showing as 89-8.

WSVN-DT is showing as 112-1 and WTVJ-DT is showing as 118-432
It doesn't find WFOR-DT nor WPLG-DT

I tried it without a splitter, I cant connect it to the main line since this for my bedroom.

I did multiple rescans and even changed the cables, It still doesn't detect those two channels., The only local channels that I receive in HD are WSVN-DT, WTVJ-DT, WBFS-DT, WFSL-DT, and WPBT-DT.

It finds WFOR and WPLG in Standard Definition, But not the High Definition versions of them.

The channel frequencies on this Toshiba Regza 32" are different, WSVN-DT is 112-1 and WTVJ-DT is 118-432.

Theres no way to tune into the frequencies for the two missing HD channels cause it doesn't find them in the scans.

Look for them after you do a rescan. Start from Ch.79 up to Ch.119. You may find them on 85.XXX or 86.XXX, that is where I get them.

Does anyone have info on what will happen to the Comcast QAM Clear Channels after the changeover? Will they be renumbered to correspond with the OTA numbers ( CBS 85.433 becomes 4.1) They say no DT converter is required for those with old sets, but if they retain the CH. 2 to 78 analog lineup, just how will they be able to offer new HD channels???:)
I love how they mislead in their TV ads that they have the most HD channels, by counting the the on demand libraries, as if they were independent HD channels.

Look for them after you do a rescan. Start from Ch.79 up to Ch.119. You may find them on 85.XXX or 86.XXX, that is where I get them.
Trust me, I have checked every channel that doesn't have a check mark on them and non of them work. The ones with the check marks are unencrypted.

... I love how they mislead in their TV ads that they have the most HD channels, by counting the the on demand libraries, as if they were independent HD channels.To be fair and honest Comcast has never claimed to have the most HD channels. They have claimed, however, to have the most (at any given time) HD choices! And, in this regard, they are accurate, at least in most locations.

Of course, most of us, me included are far more interested in HD channels! But I doubt we'll see any more here until they start moving the higher analog channels to digital (as is being done in other areas - only the basic service is being left in analog).

Hmm, when I had Comcast I had hardly any On Demand in HD.

Why use "on demand" if Netflix or Blockbuster are much cheapper, much better picture and much more choices ? I really don't get it...

Why use "on demand" if Netflix or Blockbuster are much cheapper, much better picture and much more choices ? I really don't get it...

I agree even if you have on demand HD choice you end up with 5.1 sound at best. These days I prefer Blu-ray with TrueHD or DTS-HD MA. No one offers the HD sound via demand that I am aware of.

Because some On Demand is free. I'm not just talking about PPV.

With TV shows you have to wait until next September to get a show on BD/DVD. Meanwhile On Demand has a show available next day.

For movies, I agree. If it's a movie that I know I gotta enjoy BD-quality and HD audio then I'll rent/buy the BD. If it's a movie that is not going to be a movie to milk HD, then I'll just watch it On Demand. Nobody broadcasts TrueHD/DTS-HD yet and our HD DVR's don't have the ability to read those codecs anyways like our receivers do.

I agree even if you have on demand HD choice you end up with 5.1 sound at best. These days I prefer Blu-ray with TrueHD or DTS-HD MA. No one offers the HD sound via demand that I am aware of.OTA 5.1 through the TV tuner going into the home theater system via optical or coax sounds pretty damn good. :)

OTA 5.1 through the TV tuner going into the home theater system via optical or coax sounds pretty damn good. :)

I agree and if I saw a price break with on demand over what I pay at BB or NF then I would probably take the convenience on demand offers. But for instance with Uverse the HD movies are $6/rental which means I am paying a premium and getting less in both PQ and sound. So I still prefer to rent.

Does anyone know if the south florida stations plan to transition on feb 17 regardless of the delay? I would love it if 7.1 and 10.1 got in their final positions so I can finally see them.

Does anyone know if the south florida stations plan to transition on feb 17 regardless of the delay? I would love it if 7.1 and 10.1 got in their final positions so I can finally see them.

I read that 10.1 will not be on it's permanant DTV channel until July, regardless of the DTV transition delay (or non delay). They are building a new facility which will not be ready in time. They will operate their transitional channel at reduced power until then.

Check out this link:
http://www.rabbitears.info/dtr.php

It has the current status of every TV station in order of market rating. Miami is #16.

I read that 10.1 will not be on it's permanant DTV channel until July, regardless of the DTV transition delay (or non delay). They are building a new facility which will not be ready in time. They will operate their transitional channel at reduced power until then.

Check out this link:
http://www.rabbitears.info/dtr.php

It has the current status of every TV station in order of market rating. Miami is #16.

Whoops! Looks like you caught a mistake of mine. :o

They had said that originally, but their latest filing with the FCC says they've figured out a way to return to channel 10, but at the same low power level. I'll have that fixed when I upload the updated version of that page after midnight. :)

- Trip

Just wanted to mention that I'm canceling cable and going OTA. I know certain folks always cheer when they hear someone doing this.

I was surprised to find that a cheap set of amplified rabbit-ears in the attic picks up everything. Perfectly. 2, 4, 6, 7, 10, 17, 23, 33, 39, 45, 51, and a few other low power stations that don't play anything I want to watch and thus don't remember. I live about four miles west of the FIU University Park campus.

I plugged the rabbit-ears into the splitter for the house's cable TV wiring, and both TVs picked up a perfectly clear ATSC signal. The only glitching I've seen so far is occasionally when doing laundry, when the washing machine changes modes. That's it, and I can definitely put up with it for saving $63 a month.

I may upgrade to a better antenna if I find myself having problems during T-storms or other bad weather. But so far, so good.

I was hardly watching any cable anyway; this is the best decision I've made lately. If I find myself missing cable networks, I plan to get satellite, which is cheaper, and many sat receivers/PVR boxes can pick up OTA as well, so I don't have to deal with "HD-lite" for local channels.

OTA forever!

Was your provider Comcast? Can you tell the difference in PQ?

Was your provider Comcast? Can you tell the difference in PQ?

No PQ difference that was obvious. I don't think Comcast is recompressing the locals.

I would have to do a direct side by side comparison to tell, and that would involve a lot of work that I don't feel like doing. :)

I'm impressed at what that little antenna can do.

Congratulations, zorilynx!

Your action is the only thing that will make cable companies improve their business and lower their pricing. Money talks.

You will find that a digital OTA signal is always better than that channel on cable/sat just by the nature of the beast. The "conduit" between the originating broadcast and your receiver is the shortest, cleanest path possible OTA. By definition, cable/sat signals (compressed or uncompressed) travel through much more "dirt" before they reach your receiver.

Congratulations, zorilynx!

Your action is the only thing that will make cable companies improve their business and lower their pricing. Money talks.


Yep, and that's just it. The main straw that broke the camel's back was the continued price increases (about a buck or so every few months on average) and the fact that they've actually been REDUCING service for me, moving channels to encrypted QAM in an attempt to get me to upgrade to a digital box.

I feel that at $63 a month, the boxes should be included. IF they threw in a couple boxes for my two TVs and NICE QUALITY digital basic channels, I'd stick with them! But I have to pay even more, on top of that exhorbitant rate.

Yep, and that's just it. The main straw that broke the camel's back was the continued price increases (about a buck or so every few months on average) and the fact that they've actually been REDUCING service for me, moving channels to encrypted QAM in an attempt to get me to upgrade to a digital box.I believe it was on this board that I read that basic service without a box will eventually include only two dozen or so channels. Everything else will only be available through a box. The rationale is that with a box, On Demand and PPV are extra cash cows that aren't possible with just a wire.

I feel that at $63 a month, the boxes should be included. IF they threw in a couple boxes for my two TVs and NICE QUALITY digital basic channels, I'd stick with them! But I have to pay even more, on top of that exhorbitant rate.For $63/month, they should come in and vacuum my house every week! That kind of pricing is absurd. And for what - a couple of sports and news channels?

I'd be very curious to see what cable/sat subscribers watch considering what they pay each month. Would we find out that each month they're paying $20 to watch channels already available OTA, another $20 for a few headlines on CNN, and another $20 for a few football or basketball games?

I believe it was on this board that I read that basic service without a box will eventually include only two dozen or so channels. Everything else will only be available through a box. The rationale is that with a box, On Demand and PPV are extra cash cows that aren't possible with just a wire.

For $63/month, they should come in and vacuum my house every week! That kind of pricing is absurd. And for what - a couple of sports and news channels?

I'd be very curious to see what cable/sat subscribers watch considering what they pay each month. Would we find out that each month they're paying $20 to watch channels already available OTA, another $20 for a few headlines on CNN, and another $20 for a few football or basketball games?

I've never been a fan of broadcast television, so I guess I'm amongst those subscribers who would not be willing to give up cable. In fact, the only shows I watch that are on the broadcast stations are "CSI-Vegas" and the entire "Law & Order" franchise. I've always been a fan of the Discovery group of channels, in particular The History Channel, HGTV, Discovery, and TLC. And of course, there's the movie channels....nothing beats watching an unedited movie without commercials.

I've never been a fan of broadcast television, so I guess I'm amongst those subscribers who would not be willing to give up cable. In fact, the only shows I watch that are on the broadcast stations are "CSI-Vegas" and the entire "Law & Order" franchise. I've always been a fan of the Discovery group of channels, in particular The History Channel, HGTV, Discovery, and TLC. And of course, there's the movie channels....nothing beats watching an unedited movie without commercials.Rudy, all points well taken. Of course, I'm merely posting my opinion; I'm sure most others have their own opinions as well.

Perhaps what this all comes down to is this: What is one willing to pay for what they want to watch? Since I watch mostly PBS, network prime-time shows and movies/etc. on DVD, it's just not worth it to pay upwards of $50/month for stuff I'm not really interested in. One could argue that PBS has some content that touches upon the realm of Discovery and History, but I don't consider that content important enough to pay a monthly fee.

If it's not on OTA, I can always rent a DVD (or even go to the library and check out freebies) for a lot of what I'd watch on cable/sat except for real-time sports. My point is that I'd rather pay ad-hoc than a regular monthly fee, so OTA coupled with ad-hoc rentals is what works for me.

Different strokes for different folks. I'm glad that you're not paying cable for something you don't need. There are people out there that probably have the exact same programming preferences as you and still shell out hundreds to premium services monthly. There are a lot of resources outside of paying (library, websites, etc.)

I will be in Miami next month (staying near Aventura Mall) and was wondering if anyone know of any OTA Antenna,Pre Amp stores nearby ?
Thanks

I live close to Aventura Mall and get all channels with a small indoor antenna and no pre-amp. There is a BestBuy 3 minutes from the mall. There is also a Home Depot about 15 minutes , they have the big stuff and pre-amps if you need.

Thanks slimoli,
Do you know the street Best Buy is on ?
Are there any stores in the Aventura Mall itself that might self pre -amps ?
Thanks

There is a Sears inside the mall, not sure about selling separate pre-amps but probably small antennas with built-in pre-amps. Best Buy is on the same avenue as Aventura Mall, Biscayne Blvd, about 3 minutes driving to the north on the right side (go over the bridge). There is also a Circuit City liquidating the whole store about 4 blocks before you reach BB. The signal in this area is pretty strong and if you can avoid the pre-amp it would be better. Worst possible scenario, go to Home Depot , 20 minutes driving south from the mall, same avenue, left side.

One more thing: Stay away from small electronic stores inside the mall: They sell low-end stuff at higher prices to foreigners.

I believe it was on this board that I read that basic service without a box will eventually include only two dozen or so channels. Everything else will only be available through a box. The rationale is that with a box, On Demand and PPV are extra cash cows that aren't possible with just a wire. ...While the rationale quoted may be a popular one (and Comcast did bring it on themselves) the more likely rationale is that it is simply technology progressing! Yes, I agree, my understanding is also that eventually only the first 24 channels will be analog and “out the wall”.

First they stop offering expanded basic to new customers (have they stopped doing that here yet?) and then they move channels 24 to 100 to digital (encrypted). When they do this they also provide one or two free, for a year, DTA (not sure of the correct meaning but I call them Digital To Analog) boxes to current subscribers. Additional ones are a couple of bucks a month.

The big reason, of course, is to free up bandwidth! This has already been done in Boston and Chicago and those two cities have as many HD channels as DirecTV and Dish! I believe the hope is to have all areas converted by the end of this year!

The above is all based on various posts I have read in the HDTV Programming forum and other boards.

While the rationale quoted may be a popular one (and Comcast did bring it on themselves) the more likely rationale is that it is simply technology progressing! Yes, I agree, my understanding is also that eventually only the first 24 channels will be analog and “out the wall”.

First they stop offering expanded basic to new customers (have they stopped doing that here yet?) and then they move channels 24 to 100 to digital (encrypted). When they do this they also provide one or two free, for a year, DTA (not sure of the correct meaning but I call them Digital To Analog) boxes to current subscribers. Additional ones are a couple of bucks a month.

The big reason, of course, is to free up bandwidth! This has already been done in Boston and Chicago and those two cities have as many HD channels as DirecTV and Dish! I believe the hope is to have all areas converted by the end of this year!

The above is all based on various posts I have read in the HDTV Programming forum and other boards.I might suggest that Comcast is pushing boxes to further their chances of getting subscribers to purchase PPV and for-fee On Demand. This would be right in line with their profitability goals.

Since digital and HD is already available "out the wall" (i.e., locals are currently in digital and HD w/o a box), why couldn't more digital channels be offered the same way?

Not knowing the technical side of how the boxes work, is it because not all the channels "come through the wire" all the time? In other words, does the box pull only the current channel and then dump it for the next channel you select? If that's the case, is that the reason why switching channels takes so long on the box?

I might suggest that Comcast is pushing boxes to further their chances of getting subscribers to purchase PPV and for-fee On Demand. This would be right in line with their profitability goals. …While I have no doubt this is part of the thinking and undoubtedly a good side benefit, I still believe the main goal is to increase bandwidth to allow more HD channels. The big-wigs have stated more than once they don’t like the idea of being so far behind the satellite companies in HD channel counts and want to catch-up. They have done so in two areas and there is little doubt that more will follow!

… Since digital and HD is already available "out the wall" (i.e., locals are currently in digital and HD w/o a box), why couldn't more digital channels be offered the same way? … All channels come “out the wall” but most are encrypted, requiring a box or cable card to view them. The only unencrypted ones are channels 2 to 24 (these will remain analog), channels 25 to 100 so long as they remain analog and the HD local network channels which are (obviously) digital.

All other digital channels will be encrypted (corporate decision). If they are not now it is only a question of time until they are! With the encryption of digital channels 25 to 100 your comments regarding the need for a box come into play! Although, to be honest, I’m not sure the small DTA boxes can do PPV and VOD.

… Not knowing the technical side of how the boxes work, is it because not all the channels "come through the wire" all the time? In other words, does the box pull only the current channel and then dump it for the next channel you select? If that's the case, is that the reason why switching channels takes so long on the box?The one channel at a time approach is basically that used by Switched Video and Is not being used here yet (as far as I know). While I certainly experience (annoying) delays and slowness with many functions on the box, changing channels is not one of them. Consistently well less than one second to change a channel!

Didn't know D* added PBS in HD in our area. For any of you D* folks, I saw some HD programming last night.

I recently upgraded my standard digital box with one that supports HDTVs on Friday, and been receiving more channels then I had on the standard digital box. I was getting channels like HBO, Showtime, Cinemax in HD, And was also getting NFL Network in HD.

And just today, Those channels no longer work.

I recently upgraded my standard digital box with one that supports HDTVs on Friday, and been receiving more channels then I had on the standard digital box. I was getting channels like HBO, Showtime, Cinemax in HD, And was also getting NFL Network in HD.

And just today, Those channels no longer work.Yep, that’s what happens! (I assume you are talking Comcast). When you get a new box it is usually in an “open” state. I.E. You are able to receive ALL channels. Within a short period of time the box is reset to allow only those channels you subscribe to. Sometimes this is a day or two and sometime it is only 45 minutes or so!

Occasionally the box reset disables channels you are entitled to and then you have to call and sort it all out!

Yep, that’s what happens! (I assume you are talking Comcast). When you get a new box it is usually in an “open” state. I.E. You are able to receive ALL channels. Within a short period of time the box is reset to allow only those channels you subscribe to. Sometimes this is a day or two and sometime it is only 45 minutes or so!

Occasionally the box reset disables channels you are entitled to and then you have to call and sort it all out!
I'm using Comcast, Before the reset, I was getting all the HBO, Showtime, and Cinemax channels as well as NFL Network, Nik Toons, Toon Disney as well as G4, They aren't part of my basic package.

While I have no doubt this is part of the thinking and undoubtedly a good side benefit, I still believe the main goal is to increase bandwidth to allow more HD channels. The big-wigs have stated more than once they don’t like the idea of being so far behind the satellite companies in HD channel counts and want to catch-up. They have done so in two areas and there is little doubt that more will follow!

All channels come “out the wall” but most are encrypted, requiring a box or cable card to view them. The only unencrypted ones are channels 2 to 24 (these will remain analog), channels 25 to 100 so long as they remain analog and the HD local network channels which are (obviously) digital.

All other digital channels will be encrypted (corporate decision). If they are not now it is only a question of time until they are! With the encryption of digital channels 25 to 100 your comments regarding the need for a box come into play! Although, to be honest, I’m not sure the small DTA boxes can do PPV and VOD.

The one channel at a time approach is basically that used by Switched Video and Is not being used here yet (as far as I know). While I certainly experience (annoying) delays and slowness with many functions on the box, changing channels is not one of them. Consistently well less than one second to change a channel!If all channels are "out the wall", how does the use of a box increase bandwidth?? Unless I'm missing something (which is entirely possible), I can't see how that could happen.

I think the real issue here is encryption and not bandwidth. By encrypting more and more channels, Comcast is pushing more subscribers to use a box - not for bandwidth conservation but for profit. Simply, boxes do PPV and for-fee VOD, which out the wall doesn't.

Here's my question: If Comcast is indeed pushing all channels out the wall all the time, why can't/won't they simply send unencrypted non-pay digital HD channels (HD where available) from 14 through whatever so my QAM tuner can simply receive them unencumbered???

BTW, my Sammy switches OTA digital channels almost as fast as an analog set. The Comcast box takes twice as long to switch.

If all channels are "out the wall", how does the use of a box increase bandwidth?? Unless I'm missing something (which is entirely possible), I can't see how that could happen. ….It doesn’t happen; the use of a box has no impact on bandwidth whatsoever! Think of it this way, bandwidth represents a tube down which all channels travel from the head end to your TV. There is a finite capacity for this tube and this capacity is determined by the head end, not the coaxial cable.

It follows that the more powerful the head end, the larger the bandwidth and the more channels that may be offered. Thus each channel occupies some set amount of space in that tube and it so happens that an analog channel takes about five times the amount of space that a digital channel does! It doesn’t take much to realize that by removing the analog versions of channels 25 to 100 frees up a boatload of bandwidth!

And what happens to this extra bandwidth? It is used, for the most part, to offer additional HD channels!

As far as I am concerned, I say “bring it on” – I want more HD channels!

… I think the real issue here is encryption and not bandwidth. … Encryption has nothing to do with bandwidth – two completely separate animals. Encryption does not use any additional bandwidth.

… By encrypting more and more channels, Comcast is pushing more subscribers to use a box - not for bandwidth conservation but for profit. Simply, boxes do PPV and for-fee VOD, which out the wall doesn't....We’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one. As I said, I do not believe the new DTA boxes support PPV or VOD. They simply allow users with analog TVs to access the analog channels that have been moved to digital. Since Expanded Basic will no longer be sold it is only a matter of time until everyone is converted.

Remember also that cable is the only provider that allows any access without a box! FIOS, U-Verse, DirecTV and Dish all require a box on all TVs for even the minimal level of service. Cable companies will continue to provide the basic, or life-line, service without the need for a box.

… Here's my question: If Comcast is indeed pushing all channels out the wall all the time, why can't/won't they simply send unencrypted non-pay digital HD channels (HD where available) from 14 through whatever so my QAM tuner can simply receive them unencumbered??? ...You’ll have to ask Comcast that one! It is a business decision after all. However, remember cable companies have never made any commitment to support QAM tuners; this is just a side benefit to those subscribers whose TVs happen to have such a tuner! Further, QAM tuners only work with cable, you cannot use them with any other provider; you will still need a box!

I believe the digital versions of the channels in the basic level of service are being sent in the clear for QAM users. Otherwise, just like every other provider, you’ll need a box or cable card!

As an aside: My next TV, a little ways away, will definitely have a QAM tuner. I’ll be interested to see exactly how it works.

… BTW, my Sammy switches OTA digital channels almost as fast as an analog set. The Comcast box takes twice as long to switch. That’s a good thing, right? Come to think of it, my box free TVs probably change channels a little faster than the boxes do. I never really paid much attention – it was way fast enough for me!

Bryan, first let me say that you are a gentleman and a scholar! Thank you very much for the pleasant banter.

Allow me to say that I fully understand your explanation, and it appears to support my idea of "everything's there all the time".

A possible point of misunderstanding is my use of the term 'box'. I'm not talking about the new, simple DTA boxes, but the digital/PPV/For-Fee-VOD boxes that Comcast mandates should you want digital channels.

My beef is simple. Comcast (and other cable providers) force you to use a box to watch digital and HD only because they want it that way - not because it's necessary. IOW, it's a business decision as you've already pointed out.

Bottom line: I want digital and HD without a box. The only way I can currently get that is OTA. So be it.

Anyone else notice this? The ABC network HD feed cuts to a pillarboxed blurry SD feed, the lottery results appear, then shortly after it cuts back to HD...

It looks really bad; you'd think they could find a better way to do this. Isn't it possible to overlay graphics on the HD feed?

Or better yet, do it during commercials or before the show starts.

WPLG-DT Miami:

"Thanks for your email. The President signed the bill yesterday, so the delay is official. At this point we don't anticipate transitioning before June 12th. This would coincide with the completion of our new tower, so we should be able to go to 30kw then."

I had figured they were in a hurry to move but I guess not. It seems the entire Miami/Ft. Lauderdale market is going to wait until June 12th.

Thank you 97Strat, I too have enjoyed the banter! Hopefully others have also enjoyed reading it and may even have learned something!

But you are right! If you want HD without a box then you are stuck with OTA (providing your TV has the appropriate tuner). If it satisfies your need, you can also use your QAM tuner (once again, if your TV has one).

Not to belabor things but earlier today I came across a thread on another board which discusses the DTA boxes and encryption/decryption. Basically, they are saying while the Expanded Basic channels (25-100) maybe encrypted when Comcast announces the availability of the DTA boxes for an area they also decrypt those channels! However, this does not last long and they become re-encrypted after some period of time!

For anyone interested, you may find the thread here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21893960-DTA-confusion

Thank you 97Strat, I too have enjoyed the banter! Hopefully others have also enjoyed reading it and may even have learned something!

But you are right! If you want HD without a box then you are stuck with OTA (providing your TV has the appropriate tuner). If it satisfies your need, you can also use your QAM tuner (once again, if your TV has one).

Not to belabor things but earlier today I came across a thread on another board which discusses the DTA boxes and encryption/decryption. Basically, they are saying while the Expanded Basic channels (25-100) maybe encrypted when Comcast announces the availability of the DTA boxes for an area they also decrypt those channels! However, this does not last long and they become re-encrypted after some period of time!

For anyone interested, you may find the thread here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21893960-DTA-confusionBryan, very interesting reading. I also took a look at some of the other Comcast threads over on dslreports, and it seems like there are some folks switching to sat from Comcast, price being the major factor.

Dare I say that in these times, it's an interesting choice - paying $50 to $100 on up for cable/sat with tons of channels each month vs. paying $0 for OTA with the best picture albeit with limited channel choice.

22 and Ion (35) are going digital according to the Herald. Can't find the link.

22 and Ion (35) are going digital according to the Herald. Can't find the link.http://www.miamiherald.com/business/story/898010.html

Whats up guys..

Question, whats the best small footprint indoor antenna ?

I currently have an RCA ANT301: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882125057

While its good, and picks up for me in Doral 33178. I get NBC, CBS, CW, and PBS Digital and HD looks great on them, however I missing ABC and FOX because they are on VHF I presume? It is a UHF/VHF atenna but seems like it can't pick up the VHF signals, why? Would another better antenna pick these up? Both ABC and FOX (VHF) are not picked up by the antenna, is it marketed at VHF but can't pick them up? I just find it strange these are not picked up and happen to both be VHF.. something i'm missing?

What antenna can I buy that is better than this but small? I'm looking for just an indoor small footprint antenna to stay by the tv or behind the tv....

Any inputs? really want to pick up ABC and FOX....

My question is pretty much the same as kromix. I have a RS 15-1864 loop and ears that picks up the same NBC, CBS, CW, MyN, PBS, and sometimes ION, I can't get the VHF channels ABC and FOX. I can't even get the autoscan to find FOX (7.1) but did get it to find ABC but it is essentially a no signal. Any opinion as to just waiting it out and seeing if post-transition would improve it, or go with another model.

Any suggestions on another model?
I've eliminated the RS DA-5200 as it is UHF only. I've been thinking maybe the wineguard 3000. Opinions?

Also, what is the pro/con of an amplified antenna? Currently most of my signal strenght on the main channels are 98 (NBC), 82, 82, 76, and 65 (PBS). Would an amplified antenna push some of these too far over 100 (is there such a thing?). What is a typical amplification in signal strength?

Thanks for any help!

Dare I say that in these times, it's an interesting choice - paying $50 to $100 on up for cable/sat with tons of channels each month vs. paying $0 for OTA with the best picture albeit with limited channel choice.

I've found that since killing cable I'm discovering more and more good network TV shows on free OTA. Not having all the "noise" of cable has narrowed me down to some great programming.

Lost, 24, Flashpoint, Fringe (yes, the science is silly, but it's still a fun show), CSI, Life On Mars, among others.

I'm very happy with my choice so far, and don't find myself missing cable much at all.

I've found that since killing cable I'm discovering more and more good network TV shows on free OTA. Not having all the "noise" of cable has narrowed me down to some great programming.

Lost, 24, Flashpoint, Fringe (yes, the science is silly, but it's still a fun show), CSI, Life On Mars, among others.

I'm very happy with my choice so far, and don't find myself missing cable much at all.Exactly! All very cool shows btw - and don't forget the L&Os, Without A Trace, and Criminal Minds.

With OTA, we get the best picture quality available, and we don't have to have a big box doing the job of what we've already paid for with the TV's internal tuner.

Even with sports, the big draws are usually carried by network TV, so they're available OTA. Nature/history can be found on PBS, and rentals and the library carry most of the rest.

My conclusion was that saving $50/month or more (especially in these economic times) was well worth giving up Discovery/AnimalPlanet/History, ESPN, and 24-hour news. If I really need instant, on-demand news I can get it on the Internet.

Anyone else notice this? The ABC network HD feed cuts to a pillarboxed blurry SD feed, the lottery results appear, then shortly after it cuts back to HD...

It looks really bad; you'd think they could find a better way to do this. Isn't it possible to overlay graphics on the HD feed?

Or better yet, do it during commercials or before the show starts.

That's not the network feed, that's WPLG getting ready to go local on commercials or to put an overlay on the screen. They don't broadcast in HD, and have to downconvert or change the signal to SD when they want to do something locally like run that commercial.

Drives me crazy every morning when watching GMA and they cut in for the local weather every half hour. Picture changes, audio goes out of Dolby... wish they'd get their act together and start providing some HD signals.

So yesterday I had U-Verse installed here is summary of how things went.

Customer Service - this was very good, I got a heads up call two days before the install from the outside line installer saying he would be getting the line to the house in place. I got two calls prior to installation day confirming the install and the inside installer called and showed up right on time

Equipment & Line - I have 25Mb line to the house the install included (1) 2Wire 3800HGV-B Router, (1) Cisco IPN430MC PVR (160GB drive) and (3) Cisco IPN330HD STBs. U200 package

Installation - took 8 hours total. I asked them to leave the cable in place and run Cat5. The tech worked for three hours trying to establish the cable runs but it ended up being too difficult so we went with plan B which was to use the existing cable connections. Since I could not get the Cat5 they gave me a six month discount on the service. The connections were pretty straight forward the router has a RG6 and runs bidirectional, the signal is then split and back fed to the rooms through the existing RG6.

Needed to switch my existing old Bellsouth email accounts to the ATT Yahoo they have an upgrade for this and it preserved all of my saved mail etc.

All my existing computers and PS3s connected to the internet via wireless and my I/O speeds look right on at 3Mb down and 1Mb up which is what I paid for.

My Harmony 550 was easily programmed for the Cisco PVR and works perfectly.

Service - I have only spent about 3hrs watching but the HD looks as good as Advanced Cable's, I will watch some football today to get a better feel. The SD content looks fine certainly better than the cable analog stuff.

The channel guide and recorder is very easy to use and I really like the ability to watch recordings in any room. So I can pause in the family room and then resume watching in my bedroom. The installer said they would be coming out with drives in each box so in the future you will not have to share disk space. You can also schedule recordings over the web from anywhere via their website.

Overall I am happy so far, my only real concern is whether the (4) TV streams will be an issue, especially with only (2) HD. I will provide some additional updates as I get more time with the service, I am also looking into the VOIP when that becomes available.

Thanks for the interesting info on your installation. I live in an oceanfront condo in Lauderdale By The Sea and do not know much much about U-Verse, other that it is not available here. The wiring in the street on A1A was completed nearly 2 years ago, but there is no sign of life yet. Their website says it is not available.

With all the wiring that went on in your installation, does it mean that my building has to be rewired to have U-Verse? We have Comcast at this time, but I would love to have the pricing on your HD package, as we all know the prices Comcast charges.

22 and Ion (35) are going digital according to the Herald. Can't find the link.

ION was supposed to go HD this week or next. Can't recall. They just announced that's being postponed a month. I assume that includes the local outlet. Only interested because they run old Boston Legal episodes.

...mike

Can you guys tell me if you have the same problem? I have ots antenna and A few days ago I stopped receiving 35.1 35.2 35.3 and 44.1
I still get analog 35 which is pax wpxm. digital 35.1 I think is goes by the name qubo tv. 35.3 I think is ION. They have or should I say had several good programs like men 7, sport pilot tv, world championship sports and the like now its black screen says weak or no signal all the time. The weird thing is I started to notice the missing channels days after channel 35 started running a stationary warning bar 1/4 the size of the screen across the bottom of the screen saying they were shutting off analog on the 17 this warning lasted for about 5 minutes every hour every day. whdt Channel 41.1 was an hd channel that looked excellent and is gone now too. can you check if you recieve them remember Im using ota so I would need you to have ots also. Thanks

Can you guys tell me if you have the same problem? I have ots antenna and A few days ago I stopped receiving 35.1 35.2 35.3 and 44.1
I still get analog 35 which is pax wpxm. digital 35.1 I think is goes by the name qubo tv. 35.3 I think is ION. They have or should I say had several good programs like men 7, sport pilot tv, world championship sports and the like now its black screen says weak or no signal all the time. The weird thing is I started to notice the missing channels days after channel 35 started running a stationary warning bar 1/4 the size of the screen across the bottom of the screen saying they were shutting off analog on the 17 this warning lasted for about 5 minutes every hour every day. whdt Channel 41.1 was an hd channel that looked excellent and is gone now too. can you check if you recieve them remember Im using ota so I would need you to have ots also. Thanks35 and 44 digital are apparently off the air for some reason.

35.1 is ION (SD), 44 is DW most of the time (HD). If 35.1 goes HD, they'll have to drop a couple of their sub-channels due to bandwidth considerations.

Further to a couple of comments I have made about this subject in earlier posts, check this site: http://www.comcast.com/digitalnow/About_Digital_Update.aspx Started in 2008 and will continue through 2010.

The big question, for us, is when in South Florida?

I just noticed subchannel 6-3 NBC Universal on air. :)

I just noticed subchannel 6-3 NBC Universal on air. :)Sub-channels are not good! :mad: They use up band width and detract from the PQ of the main HD channel.

Not necessarily; the encoders can be set to "rob bits" from less important subchannels when the main channel requires more bandwidth, IE for fast motion and such.

If it's implemented correctly it shouldn't be that big a problem.

During this morning's HD local weather, I didn't really see any deterioration on 6-1 OTA. That said, 6-3 is pretty fuzzy.

Channel 6 is now similar to Channel 2, in that there's a main HD channel with 2 subs.

Thanks for the interesting info on your installation. I live in an oceanfront condo in Lauderdale By The Sea and do not know much much about U-Verse, other that it is not available here. The wiring in the street on A1A was completed nearly 2 years ago, but there is no sign of life yet. Their website says it is not available.

With all the wiring that went on in your installation, does it mean that my building has to be rewired to have U-Verse? We have Comcast at this time, but I would love to have the pricing on your HD package, as we all know the prices Comcast charges.

Not necessarily they can just use a balan to change the copper line to coax and then use your existing cable coax if it is in Ok shape. They will use one coax port for the router. You connect a ethernet cable between the stb and the router for the TV closest to the router and use the existing coax your using for the rest of the TVs, as long as they can get at the splitter.

stonecrd - Are you still enjoying U-Verse. I ask because my mother, who lives in Plantation, is considering dropping Comcast and getting U-Verse.

I was looking at the channel listing on U-Verse's website and I wasn't sure if they have CNN HD?

stonecrd - Are you still enjoying U-Verse. I ask because my mother, who lives in Plantation, is considering dropping Comcast and getting U-Verse.

I was looking at the channel listing on U-Verse's website and I wasn't sure if they have CNN HD?

Yes, I have had no problems at all since it was installed. The only issue is that we have two HD TVs and with two HD streams we do get into conflict sometimes when we also want to record something. An additional HD stream would resolve this. It sounds like AT&T will be supporting this sometime, hopefully this year.

CNN HD is included and they recently added E, G4 and Style

During this morning's HD local weather, I didn't really see any deterioration on 6-1 OTA. That said, 6-3 is pretty fuzzy.

Channel 6 is now similar to Channel 2, in that there's a main HD channel with 2 subs.

I didn't see any deterioration on 6-1 compared to 5-1 from WPB. Anyway 6-3 seems to be gone for now.

Yep, I am among the legion dumping their satellite subscription and going with OTA stations via a digital tuner and an antenna. I was content for awhile with an indoor antenna but I found the Miami Fox and ABC digital stations, both being broadcast via VHF, difficult to pick up without enduring some pixelation from time to time. But I just installed the MANT940 and installed it on my patio (2nd floor, west facing), ... I used the coax cable that my satellite dish had used. The reception for all stations has improved substantially, perhaps in part because there is some sort of electrified signal boaster that one can attached to the coax (inside, near the television). I now get up to 40 (!) digital stations from Miami through WPB. What amazes me is that Miami and WPB stations are in the opposite directions but I can pick up both (the Miami stations come in strong, the WPB stations fair to good). I live in Fort Lauderdale.

The MANT940 can probably be used indoors too but I haven't tried it. I should add that on the downside the unit itself seems cheap and the mounting hardware is very crude. Use prudence when installing it outside and, if in an area exposed to the elements, buy better mounting hardware. Otherwise, this little antenna really rocks.


_Lazza

Question: Today, a license app was filed for a W57DU-D in Rock Harbor, FL. Can anyone confirm that this channel 57 is on the air, and if so, what programming it has?

Thanks.

- Trip

Nope, no channel 57 for me. But I live a good 50+ miles from Rock Harbor.


_Lazza

W57DU-D is is most likely a Translator, located in the upper middle Florida Keys.
(the channel number in the call letters is a giveaway)

Walt

W57DU-D is is most likely a Translator, located in the upper middle Florida Keys.
(the channel number in the call letters is a giveaway)

Walt

Here's the FCC's coverage map.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=LD1216334.html

- Trip

Anyone able to pick it up?

What other new channels out there if any besides 6.3 which I find is mostly infomercials. I too find the addition of 6.3 has degraded 6.1 to the point it looks grainy 480i. not only that they must be having problems with the computers since the programing info is not being transmitted again. Problems after problems and the stations blame the viewers come to find out most of you have the same problems and its not the viewer or the antenna.

Could it be the real reason why dtv was delayed after all is the stations are the ones not ready.

Anyone able to pick it up?

What other new channels out there if any besides 6.3 which I find is mostly infomercials. I too find the addition of 6.3 has degraded 6.1 to the point it looks grainy 480i. not only that they must be having problems with the computers since the programing info is not being transmitted again. Problems after problems and the stations blame the viewers come to find out most of you have the same problems and its not the viewer or the antenna.

Could it be the real reason why dtv was delayed after all is the stations are the ones not ready.Not sure how you're getting your signal (cable, sat, OTA?), but 6.1 looks just fine OTA on my Sammy - the same as it did "pre-6.3". 2.1 HD content also looks fine OTA (Channel 2 has two sub-channels as well).

If you're not getting your signal OTA and your picture's not up to par, you might want to check with your provider. Chances are that it's them screwing it up.

BTW, both Channel 6 and Channel 12 (WPEC-DT) aren't broadcasting program info. Could be that someone's asleep at the wheel.

stonecrd - Are you still enjoying U-Verse. I ask because my mother, who lives in Plantation, is considering dropping Comcast and getting U-Verse.

I was looking at the channel listing on U-Verse's website and I wasn't sure if they have CNN HD?

Mike just another note about Uverse they added 4 additional HD channels today so since Dec when I installed they have added 10 new HD (non premium) channels to the lineup. This aspect of UV I love, the channel lineup can be found at:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=15464035#post15464035

Oh crap they added ESPNewsHD. I might have to review my options now.

Stonecrd - Are the new channels ESPNNews HD, ESPNU HD, Disney HD, and Disney XD HD?

What channel is FAM HD?

Also, how do you like the PQ for the HD channels. Do you see pixelation or macroblocking? Does using the internet affect PQ, especially when downloading files?

Stonecrd - Are the new channels ESPNNews HD, ESPNU HD, Disney HD, and Disney XD HD?

What channel is FAM HD?

Also, how do you like the PQ for the HD channels. Do you see pixelation or macroblocking? Does using the internet affect PQ, especially when downloading files?

Yes

FAM HD is ABC Family Channel.

My PQ is very good, slightly softer than Advanced Cable but there are no visible artifacts that I can see. There is no degradation with the internet I have 6Mb/1Mb speeds. I believe if you get the Max 18Mb package that may reduce below 18Mb if you have two HD streams running.

The key for UV is how close you are to their VRAD DSLAM and how clean the copper is from the VRAD to your house NID. I am under 2000' so my Max Rate is 58,000 and the current Synch rate is capped at 258000 which allows 2HD/2SD streams. if you are 3000' or further they may have to drop you down to a 19200 profile which only allows 1HD/3SD streams. If you have line issues AT&T will generally cancel the installation after they test the line when they arrive.

The DVR is in Phase I which allows you to schedule/delete/pause only from the DVR stb or internet but watch from any stb. All stbs are HD compatible. Phase II will allow schedule and delete from any stb and Phase III will allow pause from any stb. Current DVR capacity is 120Mb but a new hard drive is being rolled out at 320Mb.

Also rumors that line synch rates may be increased to allow a 3rd HD stream.

The advantage I see currently with UV is price and they seem to be actively improving their service which I never really saw with cable. Also there is no hardware to purchase and no contract which was appealing to me.

The one thing that I like with U-Verse is that they do not require a contract like Directv or Dish, which is 2 years. Also, as you say, there is no upfront equipment to purchase.

I had Directv installed last March and paid $198 for 2 HD DVR's. I also have a 2 year commitment. I love Directv. The HD PQ looks amazing. It is so much better than Dish, which I had previously to getting Directv.

I like UVerse's HD channel lineup. It appears to be better than Directv's at the moment. They have a lot more premium HD channels plus they keep adding new channels such as G4, E!, ESPNU, etc.

I think I will persuade my mom to get Uverse, especially since they are having $250 rebates if you order online prior to March 2nd.

Not sure how you're getting your signal (cable, sat, OTA?), but 6.1 looks just fine OTA on my Sammy - the same as it did "pre-6.3". 2.1 HD content also looks fine OTA (Channel 2 has two sub-channels as well).

If you're not getting your signal OTA and your picture's not up to par, you might want to check with your provider. Chances are that it's them screwing it up.

BTW, both Channel 6 and Channel 12 (WPEC-DT) aren't broadcasting program info. Could be that someone's asleep at the wheel.

It's my understanding that the new NBC sub-channel will feature sports, and the Weather Plus sub-channel will be replaced by NBCPlus and feature news. All due to contractual obligations, per my source.

As for WPBT....well, I reported back to them during the early testing on the statistical multiplexer, and I can tell you there's been a decline in the quality of true high definition programming since the sub-channels went live. Not only is the high definition feed nowhere near as sharp as it used to be (again, with true HD programming), but the sub-channels suffer from having to share limited bandwidth as well. I recall when WPBT only had one sub-channel, and the quality of the widescreen programming they showed on it was better than the best upconverted SD DVD I had ever seen. Of course, this was back in the day when the main channel actually carried a lot of true high definition programming (anyone on here remember the HD loops?). I guess quantity is preferable to quality these days.

The one thing that I like with U-Verse is that they do not require a contract like Directv or Dish, which is 2 years. Also, as you say, there is no upfront equipment to purchase.

I had Directv installed last March and paid $198 for 2 HD DVR's. I also have a 2 year commitment. I love Directv. The HD PQ looks amazing. It is so much better than Dish, which I had previously to getting Directv.

I like UVerse's HD channel lineup. It appears to be better than Directv's at the moment. They have a lot more premium HD channels plus they keep adding new channels such as G4, E!, ESPNU, etc.

I think I will persuade my mom to get Uverse, especially since they are having $250 rebates if you order online prior to March 2nd.

The other advantage I hope to see is less degradation during the summer storm season. Even with Advanced Cable big storms would cause problems since they still had to pull down the signal from satellite locally. Hopefully with he signal coming in private network I will not have as many weather related issues.

[QUOTE=Rudy1;15918819]It's my understanding that the new NBC sub-channel will feature sports, and the Weather Plus sub-channel will be replaced by NBCPlus and feature news. All due to contractual obligations, per my source.

NBC6 should replace weatherplus with ThisTV movie network but anything is better than weather where you can get it anytime on internet or on local news shown every few hours.

Any word on when WPLG (Ch 10-1) will start broadcasting its news in HD?

I thought I read that it would be at the end of February, which is now.

NBC6 should replace weatherplus with ThisTV movie network but anything is better than weather where you can get it anytime on internet or on local news shown every few hours.

WTVJ is still NBC-owned, so that won't happen.

If anything, I'd look for ThisTV to show up on 7 or 10, as they both have sister stations which are airing it.

- Trip

Can somebody tell me if any of the following stations exist on the air currently in our viewing area (on tvfool.com they are present on my coverage map):


WLMF-LP (53.1)
WFUN-LP (48.1)
WVFW-LP (34.1) [Not WTVX CW 34.1 of WPB/Fort Pierce]

Thanks in advance!

Can somebody tell me if any of the following stations exist on the air currently in our viewing area (on tvfool.com they are present on my coverage map):


WLMF-LP (53.1)
WFUN-LP (48.1)
WVFW-LP (34.1) [Not WTVX CW 34.1 of WPB/Fort Pierce]

Thanks in advance!

I'm getting analog stations on 48 and 53 here in central Palm Beach. 48 is showing Haitian music videos at the moment, 53 is "WALO-LP CANAL 53" and is carrying "gentv". You're not missing anything...

120MB DVR capacity? Surely you mean GB. I think my HD DVR through D* is 500GB. But 120GB is still pretty low for 3 TVs let alone 1.

120MB DVR capacity? Surely you mean GB. I think my HD DVR through D* is 500GB. But 120GB is still pretty low for 3 TVs let alone 1.

Sorry mistype GB is correct

Using OTA antena in case anyone wants to know nothing else connected to tv and Im using an HDTV

Channel 17.1 is off air. There is 17 and 17.2. where did 17.1 go? It even says wlrn 17.2 right on the tv screen next to their logo so they know whats going on because they are transmitting that info.

The tv had was of when it did all this and there is a now a new channel 20.1 I never had and all it says if I press info is channel 20.1 dtv air and no other info on screen no logos or anything but appears to be channel 17 programming only with a better image. Is this the missing 17.1 but numbered wrong

Why is the tv changing channel numbers and adding and deleting channels left and right when its OFF but not other times when I would like to manually add them like in the case of 35.1.2.3.4 that disappeared last week (now on only due to a re scan since I couldnt force those manually) even before their analog was shut off.

This is why I stand firm in my belief they didnt put off the transition date because of a few people, they put it off because dtv its not what some are claiming and in the end the stations are the ones not ready.

Just a few weeks ago WSVN 7.1 and 7.2 was reading on the publics tv ota as 8.1 and 8.2 they claimed "computer problem" fixed after call.

This is a post from over 6 years ago you would think after 6 years dtv would be working properly see post864 by BarretoA
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=43823&page=29
Do they really expect everything to be magically fixed on a date just because its written on paper.

17-2 exists now as WLRN-SD. You are right about 17-1 off air currently. Are they going HD on 17-1? I don't get anything on 20-1 right now.

Late yesterday afternoon I discovered that U-verse is finally available in my area! (I logged onto AT&T to pay my bill and it advised me of the fact).

Since then I have been studying it closely! I even went though the ordering process up to the point of actually submitting the order.

I have one HD TV and three SD TVs. So I need four boxes. (A DVR is included but I need three more boxes as well and those are $7 a pop! $21 could be a deal breaker! Based on my pricing, the U-verse package (three extra boxes) with Internet was, for all intents and purposes, the same as my Comcast pricing plus my AT&T DSL (albeit the U-verse internet is faster).

Their web site talked about U-verse voice but did not let me order it so, after some digging I found a phone number to call and found out a couple of interesting things from the person (Josh) I spoke with:


U-verse voice is not available in all areas which was why I wasn’t given the option of ordering it. However, in this case, they will give your current AT&T phone service the same pricing as the U-verse voice price! This is big, and will save me between $30 and $40 a month! They do not advertise this and will only offer it when asked!

The advertised 2 HD/2 SD streams can actually be used as four SD streams (but the HD is still limited to two). They are currently working to add another HD stream and also to actually do away with the stream concept altogether.

For the install they will use existing cable in-house wiring if possible.
If you order online by Monday you will receive a $250 rebate! I don’t mind the 120 gig HD; that’s all I have with Comcast and it is working fine for us.

So, right now I am giving this very serious thought!

17-2 exists now as WLRN-SD. You are right about 17-1 off air currently. Are they going HD on 17-1? I don't get anything on 20-1 right now.

20.1 just says dtv air but to me the image looks better.

I tried doing some tests on a converter box but it didnt even pick it up.
It doesnt look like things have changed much in six years since post 864 when BarretoA said the following back in 2003 http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=43823&page=29
"WLRN Channel 17 is broadcasting on 20.1 tonight. Any idea how long they've been transmitting? I'm getting a strong signal with a clear picture on 20.1. They are simulcasting the programming from their analog channel with no HD content. 20.2 has the same programming but does not look as good. Lots of skipping in the video."

Late yesterday afternoon I discovered that U-verse is finally available in my area! (I logged onto AT&T to pay my bill and it advised me of the fact).

Since then I have been studying it closely! I even went though the ordering process up to the point of actually submitting the order.

I have one HD TV and three SD TVs. So I need four boxes. (A DVR is included but I need three more boxes as well and those are $7 a pop! $21 could be a deal breaker! Based on my pricing, the U-verse package (three extra boxes) with Internet was, for all intents and purposes, the same as my Comcast pricing plus my AT&T DSL (albeit the U-verse internet is faster).

Their web site talked about U-verse voice but did not let me order it so, after some digging I found a phone number to call and found out a couple of interesting things from the person (Josh) I spoke with:


U-verse voice is not available in all areas which was why I wasn’t given the option of ordering it. However, in this case, they will give your current AT&T phone service the same pricing as the U-verse voice price! This is big, and will save me between $30 and $40 a month! They do not advertise this and will only offer it when asked!

The advertised 2 HD/2 SD streams can actually be used as four SD streams (but the HD is still limited to two). They are currently working to add another HD stream and also to actually do away with the stream concept altogether.

For the install they will use existing cable in-house wiring if possible.
If you order online by Monday you will receive a $250 rebate! I don’t mind the 120 gig HD; that’s all I have with Comcast and it is working fine for us.

So, right now I am giving this very serious thought!

I have been happy using the service for about 2 months now, has not been down a single minute and everything went according to schedule. With no contract your risk is pretty low and make sure when they wire things up that you tell them you want to keep your existing service, that way they will either attempt to cable using Cat5 or at least leave all of the coax in place so you can go back if you decide.

Plan on the install taking 4-6hrs as they have to stop your ADSL line wire the NID, place the router and wire all of the stb locations. They will replace all cable ends to ensure good signal if they use your existing RG6. You will also have to convert your current bellsouth.net email to the Yahoo email, you address will stay the same and it will preserve your saved email but you have to convert.

For $250 you will get some cash and a debit type card, you have to keep the service past the 30 days money back though to get this rebate.

BDCat...So you have to order online to get the rebates and then call to get the voice pricing. Is this correct?

Also, U-Verse has a lot more HD channels than Comcast and if you don't like it, there's no commitment and you go back to Comcast.

BDCat...So you have to order online to get the rebates and then call to get the voice pricing. Is this correct? ….To the best of my knowledge, this is correct. There is a $200 rebate that expires May 25th and another $50 rebate that expires on March 2nd. (This includes the standard $100 rebate). It is only applicable on the U200 and higher packages. The don’t send the rebate until after 30 days.

I knew nothing of the voice pricing offer until I called primarily to find out if U-verse voice was available to me,

… Also, U-Verse has a lot more HD channels than Comcast and if you don't like it, there's no commitment and you go back to Comcast.Yep. A lot more! U-verse also has a 30 day money back guarantee.

Still not certain about it as yet. If I do order, I will probably do so first thing Monday. It does look good, though!

WTH?!? I didn't know there was a Hurricane.

WSVN Channel 7.2 weather channel on Feb 27, 2009 up until 8:23 pm indicated a Hurricane with the spinning Hurricane graphic claiming winds at over 100 mph and a storm surge of 6-8 ft. Did anyone else see it? The blatantly false and misleading weather alert ran for at least 23 minutes and possibly longer. I believe the false and misleading information didn't run any longer due to the calls of alert viewers.

For survivors of devastating Hurricanes like Andrew the actions of WSVN Channel 7 added insult to injury and the FCC should know about it. Blatantly False, Inaccurate, or Misleading information transmitted by a licensed television station destroys the publics confidence and puts peoples lives in danger. WSVN should deliver a public apology and take the proper steps to prevent this from happening again.

First, I think you need to calm down.

Second, no one takes WSVN and their sensational news seriously anyway. :rolleyes:

Lots of stations have messed up their channel mapping setting a few times over the years. I believe the stations will start to take it more seriously when their digital channel becomes their only signal.

You know they just switched from FOX Accuweather today, give them some time.

17.1 now seems to be broadcasting 1080i, and 17.2 is the same programming at 480i.

They also seem to not know what they're doing (yet), as 17.1 currently consists of 4:3 programming stretched to 16:9, letterboxed and pillarboxed as 4:3 again. (Seriously, what the hell?)

I'm guessing they have some equipment misconfigured. But it's a bit amusing how badly things can get f-ed up. ;)

Hopefully they'll get it worked out soon!

17.1 now seems to be broadcasting 1080i, and 17.2 is the same programming at 480i.

They also seem to not know what they're doing (yet), as 17.1 currently consists of 4:3 programming stretched to 16:9, letterboxed and pillarboxed as 4:3 again. (Seriously, what the hell?)

I'm guessing they have some equipment misconfigured. But it's a bit amusing how badly things can get f-ed up. ;)

Hopefully they'll get it worked out soon!

Odd I get 100% signal strength on 17.2 but get no 17.1 as others are reporting. I've done several channel rescans.

As scheduled..

How come this week with George Stephanopoulos isn't HD on WPLG?

Any word on when WPLG (Ch 10-1) will start broadcasting its news in HD?

I thought I read that it would be at the end of February, which is now.

Looks like the 28th. They have moved transmission to go through the new facility and will be moving all broadcasting and going to HD on 3/28 according to their website. http://www.justnews.com/station/18812478/detail.html

Looks like the 28th. They have moved transmission to go through the new facility and will be moving all broadcasting and going to HD on 3/28 according to their website. http://www.justnews.com/station/18812478/detail.html

I also noticed in the last couple of days that their local on-site video has been shot at 16:9 but is being compressed to 4:3 for the broadcast.

Suspect that this goes along with their claim that ALL local stuff will be in HD and they're starting to use the equipment now for testing purposes.

As scheduled..

Details?

Details?


http://www.televisionbroadcast.com/article/74826

Looks like the 28th. They have moved transmission to go through the new facility and will be moving all broadcasting and going to HD on 3/28 according to their website. http://www.justnews.com/station/18812478/detail.html

It's about time. March 28th is not that far away.

Now when is CBS (4-1) going to start broadcasting its news in HD?

It's about time. March 28th is not that far away.

Now when is CBS (4-1) going to start broadcasting its news in HD?

When they get on air talent worthy of HD. :D

http://www.televisionbroadcast.com/article/74826

Thanks. I wonder how this will trickle to D* as they are slow to update locals.

For anyone with a cablecard--Yesterday I got a message on my machine asking me to call Comcast and give them my cable card's IP address, serial # etc? The rep claimed there was a big upgrade happening end of this week and wanted to make sure cable card was paired properly or I would experience interruption in service. However, she claimed she did not now what the upgrade entailed. This seems king of suspicious to me since I'm sure they shoul already have this info. I tried calling but they had me on hold too long.
Does anyone have any info on this?

Noticing some changes with WPLG-DT, both good and bad.

First the good:

- Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy now in HD. Looks like they sorted out their downlink issues at the new facility.

- They can now overlay local graphics on HD programming. So rather than switch to SD to show lottery results they just show them on the HD stream.

Now the bad:

- I think they're recompresssing network video. :( There's quality issues; whenever a cut from one camera to another happens in a scene, the video is blurry for a few frames. I first noticed this during LOST last week.

Has anyone else noticed this? Just wondering if it's something we should E-mail the station about. Other than that it seems their transfer to new facilities is going well. :)

Is anyone getting bad audio distortion on the NBC HD feed on Comcast right now?

Update: Looks like the distortion is gone.

I don't have Comcast (I receive everything OTA), but I've noticed that over the past week or two, 6.1 audio has become really funky. Sounds like it's "out of phase" or something. Very little comes through my center channel - everything's spread out over the surrounds - very annoying.

I've determined that it's WTVJ and not NBC per se, as this isn't happening on 5.1 (WPTV-DT), only 6.1 (WTVJ-DT). Anybody else notice this?

I saw some blurriness watching Lost last night. I have D*.

I saw some blurriness watching Lost last night. I have D*.

Same here and I have ABB. Picture looked compressed.

Lost looked fabulous OTA - no compression or fuzziness at all. Same with Life On Mars - perfect.

17.1 now seems to be broadcasting 1080i, and 17.2 is the same programming at 480i.

They also seem to not know what they're doing (yet), as 17.1 currently consists of 4:3 programming stretched to 16:9, letterboxed and pillarboxed as 4:3 again. (Seriously, what the hell?)

I'm guessing they have some equipment misconfigured. But it's a bit amusing how badly things can get f-ed up. ;)

Hopefully they'll get it worked out soon!

17-1 WLRN-HD just appeared after a new channel scan this evening. Before i was only receiving 17-2 WLRN-SD. :)

Lost looked fabulous OTA - no compression or fuzziness at all. Same with Life On Mars - perfect.

Do you get the 5.1 or 6.1 channel ? It seems only the 6.1 is compressed.

Do you get the 5.1 or 6.1 channel ? It seems only the 6.1 is compressed.Not sure what you mean. I'm getting Channel 10 (10.1) OTA with what I assume is Dolby 5.1 audio. SD content is fuzzy (it is what it is), but HD is terrific.

17-1 WLRN-HD just appeared after a new channel scan this evening. Before i was only receiving 17-2 WLRN-SD. :)WLRN-DT's RF channel is 20. For some reason, it appeared that they weren't including the PSIP so your tuner would show the real channel number 20. Now they're got the PSIP together and it correctly shows 17-1 even though the signal is broadcast over channel 20.

They now seem to be broadcasting stretched 4:3 content in 16:9 format over 17-1 in 1080i. 17.2 is the same content, albeit in 4:3 480i.

Didn't know they had 6.1 channels available. I thought 5.1 DD was the highest broadcasted.

Didn't know they had 6.1 channels available. I thought 5.1 DD was the highest broadcasted.

I think he's referring to WPTV-DT 5-1 and WTVJ-DT 6-1.

- Trip

Well, I decided to do it and have ordered U-Verse (to replace Comcast – providing the install goes OK). The install is scheduled for next Wednesday (the 11th) starting in the 8-10 am time frame.

I chose the package and options and then scheduled the install, all online. I received a confirmation email with both an order and account number. To this point I have heard nothing further.

Main reason for switch is both the additional HD channels (just a few that I would really like to have). And the fact that I should end up saving $30-$40 a month. I ordered both TV and Internet service. Phone service is, apparently not available here just yet so they’ll give me U-Verse pricing on my regular phone service until it does become available. This is where the savings come from.

Presently the TV plus Internet is basically a wash, primarily because of the need for an additional two boxes. If necessary I can save an additional $25 a month by dropping the movie package (20) and the extra HD channel package (5). This latter package includes MGM and Smithsonian, both of which I would like to have. (The HBO/Cinemax package costs $24 a month – which I did not order). All premium channels include east and west feeds plus multiple HD channels.

Since U-Verse offers a 30 day money back guarantee I’ll keep the Comcast service for at least a little while until I am really sure.

Two things that will cause me to say “no” is a lack of bandwidth so I can only get a single HD stream or wiring on the outside walls of the house! :eek:

I’ll let you know of my experience!

I think he's referring to WPTV-DT 5-1 and WTVJ-DT 6-1.

- Trip

That's correct.

I noticed last night that My33 was showing King of Queens in HD. Not sure when it started but the list locally syndicated rerun HD shows is growing:

Two & Half Men
Seinfeld
Everbody Loves Raymond
King of Queens

Add to that Jeopardy, Wheel of Fortune & Ch 7 News in HD and we've made nice progress here lately. :D

According to the South Florida TV Blog, WPLG is going 100% HD on March 16, from their new facilities. Master Control is already being run from there (thus we have "Wheel" and "Jeopardy" in HD already).

Walt

WLRN-DT's RF channel is 20. For some reason, it appeared that they weren't including the PSIP so your tuner would show the real channel number 20. Now they're got the PSIP together and it correctly shows 17-1 even though the signal is broadcast over channel 20.

They now seem to be broadcasting stretched 4:3 content in 16:9 format over 17-1 in 1080i. 17.2 is the same content, albeit in 4:3 480i.

Im on an hdtv using ota antenna and Im only getting analog 17 and digital 17.1 wlrn-dt 480p 16:9 and no 17.2 as you're indicating 97Strat

Can you please confirm you still have reception on 17.1 at 16:9 1080 AND 17.2


EDIT: Just checked a converter box hooked up to another tv and no 17.2 even after a re scan there too so Im guessing 97Strat the one you were receiving is gone too or at least black. is it? Would you be kind enough to post back when you get reception again (if in fact its gone too) so when I visit here Ill know and can scan at that time instead of doing the dreaded re scans more than necessary. Thanks for your help

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That's correct.Didn't realize you were talking about channels 5.1 & 6.1, as the thread was concerning channel 10.1.

To answer your question, I get both WPTV-DT and WTVJ-DT OTA via a rooftop antenna.

According to the South Florida TV Blog, WPLG is going 100% HD on March 16, from their new facilities. Master Control is already being run from there (thus we have "Wheel" and "Jeopardy" in HD already).

WaltAccording to WPLG's web site, their first total-HD broadcast from the new facility will be March 28.

http://www.justnews.com/station/18812478/detail.html

Im on an hdtv using ota antenna and Im only getting analog 17 and digital 17.1 wlrn-dt 480p 16:9 and no 17.2 as you're indicating 97Strat

Can you please confirm you still have reception on 17.1 at 16:9 1080 AND 17.2


EDIT: Just checked a converter box hooked up to another tv and no 17.2 even after a re scan there too so Im guessing 97Strat the one you were receiving is gone too or at least black. is it? Would you be kind enough to post back when you get reception again (if in fact its gone too) so when I visit here Ill know and can scan at that time instead of doing the dreaded re scans more than necessary. Thanks for your help

.Seems like 17.2 is dark today. 17.1 is still broadcasting 1080i with what appears to be stretched 4:3 SD content.

Not sure what tuner you've got, but if my Sammy already has a "dash-1" station in memory and a "dash-2" subsequently comes on the air, the "dash-2" will automatically become available - no rescan needed.

17-2 is back on, at least it was last night. 480i showing the same content as 17-1.

There's a south FL TV blog? Link?

http://www.sfltv.com/

It seems that I am too far from the VRAD to complete a U-verse install at the present time!

Install was scheduled to start between 8 and 10 AM. The outside guy called at 8:30 and arrived about 9 AM. The inside guy called about 8:50 AM and arrived about 9:10 AM. Both young, very polite and seemed quite capable.

I informed them up front that two HD streams were an absolute necessity or else it would have to be a no-go.

Even though they were able to get sync on the line it was determined that I was over the 3000 feet limit and that if they went ahead I would probably end up with a high error rate and there would definitely only be a single HD stream. So that ended that!

They will be adding new VRADs in the upcoming months plus they are also coming out with a “pair-bonded” wiring that will increase the maximum distance to 4600 feet. It is already in use in a couple of market areas.

They will be calling me when either is available.

There are also some new wireless STBs coming out soon. No input other than power!

It seems that I am too far from the VRAD to complete a U-verse install at the present time!

Install was scheduled to start between 8 and 10 AM. The outside guy called at 8:30 and arrived about 9 AM. The inside guy called about 8:50 AM and arrived about 9:10 AM. Both young, very polite and seemed quite capable.

I informed them up front that two HD streams were an absolute necessity or else it would have to be a no-go.

Even though they were able to get sync on the line it was determined that I was over the 3000 feet limit and that if they went ahead I would probably end up with a high error rate and there would definitely only be a single HD stream. So that ended that!

They will be adding new VRADs in the upcoming months plus they are also coming out with a “pair-bonded” wiring that will increase the maximum distance to 4600 feet. It is already in use in a couple of market areas.

They will be calling me when either is available.

There are also some new wireless STBs coming out soon. No input other than power!

Sorry to hear BD, maybe the new VRADs will be put in, pair bonding has been talked about for some time now. I am sure they want to increase their subscriptions. As for wireless stbs, that would be a surprise probably just some CSRs imagination.

... As for wireless stbs, that would be a surprise probably just some CSRs imagination.You could very well be right but they both said they were coming! You may care to look at this http://www.tvover.net/2007/03/20/Wireless+HD+IPTV+SetTop+Box+Unveiled.aspx

Google provided other indications as well but nothing truly definitive (that I saw)!

You could very well be right but they both said they were coming! You may care to look at this http://www.tvover.net/2007/03/20/Wireless+HD+IPTV+SetTop+Box+Unveiled.aspx

Google provided other indications as well but nothing truly definitive (that I saw)!

I think it's only a matter of time before cable, as we know it, will be replaced by wireless stbs. Any thoughts on this?

Still very expensive but some "wireless cabling" already exist:

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=459782

I think it's only a matter of time before cable, as we know it, will be replaced by wireless stbs. Any thoughts on this?

I think I would like to see them concentrate on delivery high PQ HD without problems over cables (RG6 or Cat5/6) before they move to wireless :)

Now call D* or Dish and proceed to give Comcast the boot. Once your contract is up U-Verse should be up and running with no bugs. Oh and if you go with D* let me know so that we both can get a discount on our bill for referral. :D

Both WPLG ABC10 & WSVN FOX7 to share a new more powerful & taller state-of-the-art transmission tower that can withstand CAT5 winds. It's scheduled for completion in June.

Is anyone in the South Broward area able to get WHDT-44.1 OTA? I saw some notes in the West Palm forum about it possibly being off the air, but they are supposed to broadcasting the Winter Equestrian Festival from Wellington this weekend. I can't get my antenna to pick up the channel, despite being only a few miles from the tower. Is anyone else able to get it?

Is anyone in the South Broward area able to get WHDT-44.1 OTA? I saw some notes in the West Palm forum about it possibly being off the air, but they are supposed to broadcasting the Winter Equestrian Festival from Wellington this weekend. I can't get my antenna to pick up the channel, despite being only a few miles from the tower. Is anyone else able to get it?

Im in northeast broward & can get it right now. 44.1 is always showing something & I dont believe it ever goes off the air. I think the real problem is WHDT is a low power station & the signal can be so weak at particular times it appears off air. Anyway you have to point the antenna directly at the tower (S/SW for me) for a good stable signal.

Im in northeast broward & can get it right now. 44.1 is always showing something & I dont believe it ever goes off the air. I think the real problem is WHDT is a low power station & the signal can be so weak at particular times it appears off air. Anyway you have to point the antenna directly at the tower (S/SW for me) for a good stable signal.44 does in fact periodically go off the air, but they were on last night with the equestrian show. BTW, what's happening with 35?

44 does in fact periodically go off the air, but they were on last night with the equestrian show. BTW, what's happening with 35?

Miami ION 35 is one of 20 markets to launch HD tommorrow March 16th. The other 40 ION stations including West Palm Beach will upgrade to HD later this year. I haven't heard any delays so I guess we will see the change tommorrow.:cool:

Is anyone in the South Broward area able to get WHDT-44.1 OTA? I saw some notes in the West Palm forum about it possibly being off the air, but they are supposed to broadcasting the Winter Equestrian Festival from Wellington this weekend. I can't get my antenna to pick up the channel, despite being only a few miles from the tower. Is anyone else able to get it?

I am in central Broward and can pick up 44.1 but only with my outdoor antenna. My indoor antenna doesn't, nor can it pick any other WPB stations.

But for you guys in Dade/Broward, are you able to pick up any of the more distant stations in the WPB market (like 12.1, 61.1, and 25.1)? Even my outdoor antenna can't pick these up, which is bit disappointing. Thankfully most of these stations are duplicates of what is broadcast down in Miami, and I pick up those stations perfectly.

BTW, the best I can do is pick up 40-42 digital stations (..this number varies because some stations go off air from time to time). Can anyone bring in more than that??

Thanks.


_Lazza

Miami ION 35 is one of 20 markets to launch HD tommorrow March 16th. The other 40 ION stations including West Palm Beach will upgrade to HD later this year. I haven't heard any delays so I guess we will see the change tommorrow.:cool:Both 35 digital and analog still appear to be dark. Nothing this morning, nothing now. Guess we'll try again tomorrow...

Both 35 digital and analog still appear to be dark. Nothing this morning, nothing now. Guess we'll try again tomorrow...

ION is still dark as of this morning. I have read that other ION stations around the country are now in HD. What's going on in Miami?

I only know of three ION stations in HD at the moment. (WXPX Tampa, WPXA Atlanta, and WPXL New Orleans)

Who knows what's going on with ION at this point.

- Trip

I only know of three ION stations in HD at the moment. (WXPX Tampa, WPXA Atlanta, and WPXL New Orleans)

Who knows what's going on with ION at this point.

- Trip


KPXD Dallas went HD yesterday.

ION is still dark as of this morning. I have read that other ION stations around the country are now in HD. What's going on in Miami?

WPXM is still 4 SD channels. They haven't been off the air over the past few days, at least when I checked. Don't forget that they moved from ch. 26 to ch. 35 on 2/18, you may need to re-scan for them.

Is OTA the only way these other markets get ION HD? Or are did their local providers and/or satellite providers in that area upgrade?

I am in central Broward and can pick up 44.1 but only with my outdoor antenna. My indoor antenna doesn't, nor can it pick any other WPB stations.

But for you guys in Dade/Broward, are you able to pick up any of the more distant stations in the WPB market (like 12.1, 61.1, and 25.1)? Even my outdoor antenna can't pick these up, which is bit disappointing. Thankfully most of these stations are duplicates of what is broadcast down in Miami, and I pick up those stations perfectly.

BTW, the best I can do is pick up 40-42 digital stations (..this number varies because some stations go off air from time to time). Can anyone bring in more than that??

Thanks.


_Lazza

I can get all the WPB channels via my attic antenna. I am located in Plantation, near Broward Blvd. and Nobb Hill Road.

darc87

ION is live but apparently the signal is very weak. It keeps coming in and out.
What are your experiences?
I have OTA with rabbit ears and live in Hollywood downtown.

Does anyone know when NBC 6 "HD" will be showing programs like "Ellen" in HD? It's very annoying to know it's available in HD in WPB (which for me goes in and out) and not available in HD here.

I can get all the WPB channels via my attic antenna. I am located in Plantation, near Broward Blvd. and Nobb Hill Road.

darc87

What type of antenna do you have and is your attic in a 2-story or 1-story house?

Hi,

I live in Weston and have Advanced Communications Cable. Until today, I have received 4 HD channels thrrough my HD tuner. They were 114-1 which is Channel 6, 116-1 which is channel 7, 116-2 which is channel 10 and 118-22 which is channel 4.

Today they all show as scrambled. I called the cable company and they had no clue other than to say I am only supposed to receive channels 2 to 99 which are all cable channels in standard definition.

Any ideas as to what happened and if these channels will come back.

Thanks,
jeff

Hi,

I live in Weston and have Advanced Communications Cable. Until today, I have received 4 HD channels thrrough my HD tuner. They were 114-1 which is Channel 6, 116-1 which is channel 7, 116-2 which is channel 10 and 118-22 which is channel 4.

Today they all show as scrambled. I called the cable company and they had no clue other than to say I am only supposed to receive channels 2 to 99 which are all cable channels in standard definition.

Any ideas as to what happened and if these channels will come back.

Thanks,
jeff

They MUST make the locals available. It's the law. If they don't, file a complaint at the FCC.

They MUST make the locals available. It's the law. If they don't, file a complaint at the FCC.If the local channels are carried in SD, doesn't that fulfill the law?

If the local channels are carried in SD, doesn't that fulfill the law?

The non-digital local channels no longer exist , do they ? The cable company is now sending an analog signal coming from a digital source (regular ch 2,4,6,10) . The digital channels should at least be available trough the clear QAM . Even the most basic package from Atlantic Broadband sends the digital locals trough the clear qam.

I reprogramme dthe channels and the QAM HD channels are back!! They are now under different numbers but they are there.

jeff

I reprogramme dthe channels and the QAM HD channels are back!! They are now under different numbers but they are there.

jeff

What are the new channel mapping? I lost all 4 HD channels too.

I think the channels are 80-1, 89-1, 89-2, and 116-2.

jeff

The non-digital local channels no longer exist , do they ? The cable company is now sending an analog signal coming from a digital source (regular ch 2,4,6,10) . The digital channels should at least be available trough the clear QAM . Even the most basic package from Atlantic Broadband sends the digital locals trough the clear qam.AFAIK, the locals are still broadcasting analog OTA - no idea what they send to the cable/sat providers.

That said, even when analog OTA broadcasts go away, won't cable companies still broadcast an analog signal (even though the source might be digital) for their "basic" packages so analog TVs can just tune in channels through the built-in tuner?

I've also heard that some cable companies will be encrypting most (if not all) digital channels, thus forcing subscribers to get a box to decrypt them. I suspect that the cable companies want to push boxes on subscribers simply because it increases their chance for extra revenue through PPV and On-Demand.

You are correct. The big 4 still broadcast analog including 23 and 51. 22 and I think 35 are digital.

I think the channels are 80-1, 89-1, 89-2, and 116-2.

jeff

Thanks. I found the channels. For a moment, I thought ACC no longer have clear QAM local channels.

Thanks. I found the channels. For a moment, I thought ACC no longer have clear QAM local channels.

ACC in Coral Springs remapped their clear QAM locals a few months ago.

Looks like your channel numbers match ours. I posted our current channel numbers back in this thread in November if anyone needs them.

I think the channels are 80-1, 89-1, 89-2, and 116-2.

jeff

80-1 is now remapped to 121-1. I hope this is it. I missed several recordings on my Vista MC.

121-1 comes in all broken up for me. How is your reception of this channel?

jeff

121-1 comes in all broken up for me. How is your reception of this channel?

jeff

Watching NBC nightly news that I recorded earlier today now. It's clear. Same good quality as it was before the remapping.

Today, Channel 10-1 will start broadcasting their news in HD. Their first broadcast should be at 6:30pm.

For some reason I had to a signal booster and 121-1 comes in fine now.

jeff

Ch. 10 news is in HD. The studio looks great. All of the field reports are in HD, which also look great.

They showed HD sports highlights from ESPNHD but were not able to show an NBC Golf highlight in HD. I wonder why?

Miami now has three news stations in HD. Come on CBS, get your studio ready.

Ch. 10 news is in HD. The studio looks great. All of the field reports are in HD, which also look great.

They showed HD sports highlights from ESPNHD but were not able to show an NBC Golf highlight in HD. I wonder why?

Miami now has three news stations in HD. Come on CBS, get your studio ready.Ch. 10 News looks simply awesome! Field stuff is just fabulous in HD - Ch. 7 folks especially will be drooling when they see that. Studio, graphics, and sound are near perfect IMO. It was almost worth the wait.

Ch. 4 needs to get it together quickly, as they look just horrible compared to everyone else, especially Ch. 10.

BTW, Ch.35 (Ion) is still 480i. Anyone know when they'll flip to HD?

And what in the world has Ch. 6 done to their sound?!?!? For some reason, most of their stuff sounds like it's out of phase or pseudo-stereo or something bizarre. Nothing comes out the center channel; what should be in the center comes from all around. Very annoying to say the least. It's not NBC, as Ch. 5's sound is "normal". Only NBC6's sound is strange.

Ch. 10 News looks simply awesome! Field stuff is just fabulous in HD - Ch. 7 folks especially will be drooling when they see that. Studio, graphics, and sound are near perfect IMO. It was almost worth the wait.

Ch. 4 needs to get it together quickly, as they look just horrible compared to everyone else, especially Ch. 10.



I totally agree about Ch. 10. The field reports in HD are awesome. I used to never watch Ch. 10 news but I think I am going start watching a lot more now.

NBC (Ch. 6) is suddenly very loud. I don't know what happened but it started a few days ago.

I started getting random intermittent signal drops from a few seconds to what seemed like 10 seconds. I noticed it Sunday watching the motocross races and basketball game on channel 4.1 then on 51.2 in the evening. It looks just like when you loose the signal because its weak and it goes black I guess thats the best way I can explain it but it did not give the weak or no signal dialog it just went black then came back. I also noticed sometimes it would come back but without audio for a few more seconds.

Its a new lcd tv with OTA antenna

Anyone watching the races or game Sun experience it?

NBC (Ch. 6) is suddenly very loud. I don't know what happened but it started a few days ago.

Their newscast also has a new graphics package which in my opinion doesn't look as good as their previous one.

Who dropped the ball at NBC6?

Their newscast also has a new graphics package which in my opinion doesn't look as good as their previous one.

Who dropped the ball at NBC6?No one dropped the ball – it is all planned!

See: http://www.sfltv.com/tag/nbc-miami/

I started getting random intermittent signal drops from a few seconds to what seemed like 10 seconds. I noticed it Sunday watching the motocross races and basketball game on channel 4.1 then on 51.2 in the evening. It looks just like when you loose the signal because its weak and it goes black I guess thats the best way I can explain it but it did not give the weak or no signal dialog it just went black then came back. I also noticed sometimes it would come back but without audio for a few more seconds.

Its a new lcd tv with OTA antenna

Anyone watching the races or game Sun experience it?

Hahahaha. I thought there was something wrong with my TV. Thanks for posting this. :)

According to a poster on the below link, CBS (Ch. 4) news will be going HD before July.

Look for posts from a poster called "Graham" http://www.sfltv.com/2009/03/28/video-of-wplg-first-newscast-from-new-studios/#comments

Ch. 10 News looks simply awesome! Field stuff is just fabulous in HD - Ch. 7 folks especially will be drooling when they see that. Studio, graphics, and sound are near perfect IMO. It was almost worth the wait.

Ch. 4 needs to get it together quickly, as they look just horrible compared to everyone else, especially Ch. 10.

BTW, Ch.35 (Ion) is still 480i. Anyone know when they'll flip to HD?

And what in the world has Ch. 6 done to their sound?!?!? For some reason, most of their stuff sounds like it's out of phase or pseudo-stereo or something bizarre. Nothing comes out the center channel; what should be in the center comes from all around. Very annoying to say the least. It's not NBC, as Ch. 5's sound is "normal". Only NBC6's sound is strange.

I just LOVE Channel 10 in HD. A far cry from Stretch-O-Vision.

I wrote to Channel 6 about their audio last Friday. So far, no response. Their local news has very low volume and their network shows are very loud. It's very annoying. I'll be watching Channel 10 news and switching to Channel 6 for network shows only.

I just LOVE Channel 10 in HD. A far cry from Stretch-O-Vision.

I wrote to Channel 6 about their audio last Friday. So far, no response. Their local news has very low volume and their network shows are very loud. It's very annoying. I'll be watching Channel 10 news and switching to Channel 6 for network shows only.Thank goodness the days of Stretch-O-Vision appear to be over. Ch. 10 is just wonderful now, especially with HD field reports. Nobody comes close.

I also wrote to Ch. 6 last week, and like you, I received no response as of yet. The audio issue is certainly noticeable enough that someone technical should've picked up on it; I can't believe that it hasn't been resolved.

Just checked the sfltv blog, and it's now gone. A shame.

Just checked the sfltv blog, and it's now gone. A shame.Nope, it hasn't gone away! it is still there. Check the "Click here for an insider preview" at the bottom of the text and remember the date!

Nope, it hasn't gone away! it is still there. Check the "Click here for an insider preview" at the bottom of the text and remember the date!Can't believe I fell for it! :)

me too.

For Advanced Cable customers: They are adding WSFL CW (39) HD on April 15th.

It's about time.

I lost NBC again from Advanced Cable again. This is the 3rd time in 2 weeks. Trying to locate where it went.

Advanced cable is removing channel 98 (G4 TV channel) as of May 4. What a shame. It is one of my favorite channels. The only way to get it is to subscribe their Digital Plus package for $25 a month. What a ripoff. They rewmove the channel and give no channels in return.

it is now 16-1

ION is now broadcasting 720p HD on 35-1. Interestingly, they're also broadcasting 3 SD sub-channels.

Anyone else getting 44.1 on ch 9.1 now? I was watching Equus hd on 44.1 whdt and one minute into it my tv redirected all by itself to ch 9.1 and 44.1 is now gone. the info on 9.1 only shows whdt dtv air with no program info. Every day its something else with dtv.

I just became a new dish subscriber after a long time with DTV. I wanted to ask about the RSN's in HD for those who have Dish. Is it just one channel for both HD & SD broadcast on SUN & FSNFL? Or do they have separate channels for HD?

57.1 "K57 DUD" now on air. also 57.2 .3 and .4 but those channels have the colored bars

I also saw a channel 64.64 not sure what that is it was too broken up.

And if anyones figured out whats wrong with 44.1 whdt that for no good reason is transmitting now on 9.1 let me know.

If you figure out what's on 64, please let me know. I asked about that one a while ago and nobody knew.

What programming is on W57DU-D?

- Trip

If you figure out what's on 64, please let me know. I asked about that one a while ago and nobody knew.

What programming is on W57DU-D?

- Trip

Trip, It was some paid program about some hair ironing device ans was in Spanish. I believe eventually one of the programs will be with a comic named Eddie Calderon who does imitations.

BTW I can only pick this channel through a digital converter box connected to a tube. My top of the line hd digial television using ota antenna will not pick it up neither will it pick up several other channels the converter picks up.

64.64 was too blocky not sure how you call it or broken up to make out

Trip, It was some paid program about some hair ironing device ans was in Spanish. I believe eventually one of the programs will be with a comic named Eddie Calderon who does imitations.

BTW I can only pick this channel through a digital converter box connected to a tube. My top of the line hd digial television using ota antenna will not pick it up neither will it pick up several other channels the converter picks up.

64.64 was too blocky not sure how you call it or broken up to make out

I follow.

Well, if you happen to figure out if 57-1 has a programming source of some kind aside from infomercials, let me know.

- Trip

Anyone else getting 44.1 on ch 9.1 now? I was watching Equus hd on 44.1 whdt and one minute into it my tv redirected all by itself to ch 9.1 and 44.1 is now gone. the info on 9.1 only shows whdt dtv air with no program info. Every day its something else with dtv.

I just noticed it this evening, as you describe. Pretty strange.


_Lazza

Yes, 44.1 is now coming in over 9.1. I suspect that they're still on RF 44 but their PSIP translates to 9.1.

This brings up an interesting issue. I'm not sure what the laws are, but if stations can apparently set their PSIP to whatever pseudo-channel they want for OTA, any station can pop in at a more advantageous "dial position" with computer programming. For instance, if 33.1 didn't feel like being up so high on the "dial", what's to prevent them from resetting their PSIP to, say, channel 3.1? Then they could simply rebrand themselves as Channel 3.