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preludejtstyle
07-02-06, 09:45 AM
The Toshiba Website is showing the 196 models again and doing a search on the model shows that some of the mail order companies are showing they carry them and they are in stock. Now I need to go and bicker some more :D


sorry, what I meant to ask, was when will the big retailers be getting these? CC, BB, HHG?

and thanks

apeezee
07-02-06, 05:04 PM
Wow, ok, i think that this is going to be a serious stupid question, but we shall see. I have been in the market for a DLP projection TV for a few weeks now, and i was trolling craigslist today, and some dude posted that he had a toshiba 62HMX95... Now that may not seem entirely crazy (maybe he has an IN somewhere). But what really made me almost keel over in my chair was that he is asking US$1200 for it. LOL. I emailed him about 1/2 hour ago, and nothing back yet. Should i even bother with this or what?

enmoco
07-02-06, 05:26 PM
Wow, ok, i think that this is going to be a serious stupid question, but we shall see. I have been in the market for a DLP projection TV for a few weeks now, and i was trolling craigslist today, and some dude posted that he had a toshiba 62HMX95... Now that may not seem entirely crazy (maybe he has an IN somewhere). But what really made me almost keel over in my chair was that he is asking US$1200 for it. LOL. I emailed him about 1/2 hour ago, and nothing back yet. Should i even bother with this or what?And your point is??? You can't buy a refurb for less than $1700-$1800. $1200 is a place to start for what is obviously a used set. As I doubt he would be putting that money towards whatever financial institution lent him those funds,I can't see a problem. Or,if you think its too cheap,ask him "what's the most you'll take for it"Just don't wire the guy money or anything, pay when you see it. From your post it is hard to understand your point.Perhaps you could try again to make one.

bruin95
07-02-06, 05:49 PM
Wow, ok, i think that this is going to be a serious stupid question, but we shall see. I have been in the market for a DLP projection TV for a few weeks now, and i was trolling craigslist today, and some dude posted that he had a toshiba 62HMX95... Now that may not seem entirely crazy (maybe he has an IN somewhere). But what really made me almost keel over in my chair was that he is asking US$1200 for it. LOL. I emailed him about 1/2 hour ago, and nothing back yet. Should i even bother with this or what?

You seem to be confused. Why would it be crazy for this guy to have a 62HMX95. The set came out last year. He doesn't need an "IN" somewhere to have one.

ranster
07-02-06, 11:54 PM
I got the Toshiba D1 HD-DVD player from Walmart. It is my first to upconvert. The standard used to be the Oppo player, but have read in the HD forum that those that have both now have quit using the Oppo since the upconvert on the HD-DVD player is better. You don't even need to buy a bunch of HD-DVDs because Netflix has them and I'm sure soon the local rental stores will carry them. So about $300 more you can have HD-DVD & SD upconversion. The picture is awesome. :)

I have the Tosh HD-DVD player and the oppo 971 hooked to my DLP. I still keep them both (upconverted picture from both is spectacular). The oppo plays every type of disc and boots and runs in seconds. The HD-DVD player is slow and cumbersome, so I keep it for the hd-dvd discs.

Unfortunately, my dlp lamp blew yesterday. A full 2 months of moderate service! Unbelievable, now I have to read this thread in detail!! Ahhhhh!!!

bruin95
07-03-06, 12:04 AM
I have the Tosh HD-DVD player and the oppo 971 hooked to my DLP. I still keep them both (upconverted picture from both is spectacular). The oppo plays every type of disc and boots and runs in seconds. The HD-DVD player is slow and cumbersome, so I keep it for the hd-dvd discs.



That plus the fact that the Toshiba HD-DVD player CANNOT play +R, +RW discs is the reason I'll stick with my Oppo. All the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray products need to work out the bugs and come down in price before I make the plunge.

ceeze
07-03-06, 01:32 PM
I just purchased the 62HM15A before looking on this web site and discovering all of the serious issues with defective and/or prematurely failing lamps. :eek: I

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What would you guys do? Has Toshiba figured out the issues with the lamps? This makes me want to seriously consider going with a flat panel LCD instead. I have had an older Toshiba rear projector TV for six years with absolutely no problems. Are all the TV manufacturers with user replaceable lamps in DLP and LCD TVs having problems with premature lamp failure?

I had read about the lamp issues before I bought my 52HM95, but I liked the TV and it was cheap on a closeout ($1300), so I went for it. I figured that the price difference between it and a comparable set would cover a bulb or two. A little over 2 months later I'm spending my July 4th weekend staring at broken TV (ok, I'm also getting some yardwork done while I wait for a new lamp to arrive).

I don't think anyone knows how long the "new and improved" bulbs from a different manufacturer are going to last. To my knowledge, most/all of the complaints have been due to the original-style bad bulbs.

That said, while any brand and technology of TV will have issues, I now question my decision to knowingly purchase a TV with this kind of problem. Did Toshiba skimp on other areas of the TV as well? Did they adequately test the sets before selling them? Who knows? But selling a product that fails during the first few months of ownership for so many people hurts their reputation. If you do decide to keep it, get yourself an extended warranty.

enmoco
07-03-06, 01:37 PM
I had read about the lamp issues before I bought my 52HM95, but I liked the TV and it was cheap on a closeout ($1300), so I went for it. I figured that the price difference between it and a comparable set would cover a bulb or two. A little over 2 months later I'm spending my July 4th weekend staring at broken TV (ok, I'm also getting some yardwork done while I wait for a new lamp to arrive).

I don't think anyone knows how long the "new and improved" bulbs from a different manufacturer are going to last. To my knowledge, most/all of the complaints have been due to the original-style bad bulbs.

That said, while any brand and technology of TV will have issues, I now question my decision to knowingly purchase a TV with this kind of problem. Did Toshiba skimp on other areas of the TV as well? Did they adequately test the sets before selling them? Who knows? But selling a product that fails during the first few months of ownership for so many people hurts their reputation. If you do decide to keep it, get yourself an extended warranty.This horse is long dead.

Macroblocker
07-03-06, 02:07 PM
That plus the fact that the Toshiba HD-DVD player CANNOT play +R, +RW discs is the reason I'll stick with my Oppo. All the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray products need to work out the bugs and come down in price before I make the plunge.

I play DVD+R and even DL disks just fine on my Toshiba HDA1. What shocked me the most is the fact the Toshiba upscales DVDs much better than the Oppo even though on paper the Oppo should be better! my eyes dont lie :D

indil377
07-03-06, 02:39 PM
My wife just called me and said that the TV went out again. The lamp I had in there was the new improved lamp. I put it in a couple of weeks ago. Can't say for sure it is the lamp yet. I kinda hope it isn't.

Traveler62
07-03-06, 04:07 PM
I play DVD+R and even DL disks just fine on my Toshiba HDA1. What shocked me the most is the fact the Toshiba upscales DVDs much better than the Oppo even though on paper the Oppo should be better! my eyes dont lie :D
I tried a DVD+R on the D1 and it worked fine. I heard somewhere that it will play most brands of DVD+R (mine was TDK). I was not criticizing the Oppo, but most of the people posting (about 9 out of 10) have said the A1 was better and if I hadn't have bought the D1, I would have bought the Oppo. The HD-DVD does take some delay to boot up, but the picture is just amazing on my 62HM195. The firmware upgrades have taken care of most of the bugs. I have not had any problems.

bskousen
07-03-06, 04:18 PM
I had read about the lamp issues before I bought my 52HM95, but I liked the TV and it was cheap on a closeout ($1300), so I went for it. I figured that the price difference between it and a comparable set would cover a bulb or two. A little over 2 months later I'm spending my July 4th weekend staring at broken TV (ok, I'm also getting some yardwork done while I wait for a new lamp to arrive).

I don't think anyone knows how long the "new and improved" bulbs from a different manufacturer are going to last. To my knowledge, most/all of the complaints have been due to the original-style bad bulbs.

That said, while any brand and technology of TV will have issues, I now question my decision to knowingly purchase a TV with this kind of problem. Did Toshiba skimp on other areas of the TV as well? Did they adequately test the sets before selling them? Who knows? But selling a product that fails during the first few months of ownership for so many people hurts their reputation. If you do decide to keep it, get yourself an extended warranty.


I couldn't in good conscience keep the TV knowing that most people are having major issues with premature lamp failures. I decided to go with the new Sony KDF-55E2000 instead. I'm a little bummed because it's seven inches smaller and not DLP (3LCD), but that's the way it goes. Toshiba lost my business plain and simple. I hope they improve their quality control.

enmoco
07-03-06, 06:36 PM
I couldn't in good conscience keep the TV knowing that most people are having major issues with premature lamp failures. I decided to go with the new Sony KDF-55E2000 instead. I'm a little bummed because it's seven inches smaller and not DLP (3LCD), but that's the way it goes. Toshiba lost my business plain and simple. I hope they improve their quality control.For the sake of accuracy(which for some unknown reason seems to incite those who simply can't say"I didn't mean that or some other excuse,not this post,per say,but certainly others here lately.)most people are evidently,quite happy.Thousands of these displays are being sold each year.Many,many,thousands.Toshiba did, in fact, have a problem with a well documented(see webpage for serial #s)number of sets.These lamps are supplied by another mfr. to Toshiba. I don't work for Toshiba or anyone else. Has anyone else noticed that the number of complaints is well down.This is because the problem is being handled. And,quite well I feel. The fact that happy owners don't post here is widely known. Your mad,come here and complain. OK. I have been there too. There are the occasional problems. But, to condemn a company(whoever) the way we see here is just fruitless. Preaching to the choir, as it were.
Toshiba has shown their desire to serve their customer as promptly and fairly as is their duty. It took time to pinpoint (or, try to) the run of bad lamps.Further, in their awareness of customer feedback, they have provided two updates in the last two months. since the introduction of their HD-DVDs. I am sure they will provide more as needed. I believe there are a great many out there who have had a very good relationship with Toshiba.Tested by the occasional problem(mine are documented here) or maybe not,but,they have handled mine and others, promply, and I believe, fairly.We all deal with big companies all the time. Every day. You say they lost your buisness.I think they never had it. Again...just my .02 :)

enmoco
07-03-06, 10:18 PM
From Toshiba's webpage....... http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/tacpassets-images/notices/dlplamp.asp Toshiba is committed to customer service and to continuously improving the quality of its products. It has come to our attention that the lamp life of some lamps in a limited number of 2005 DLP television models and serial number ranges may be less than our expectation. As part of our ongoing commitment to customer service, Toshiba is extending the warranty on the originally-installed lamp in those particular 2005 DLP television models and serial number ranges for one additional year (for a total warranty period of two years for the originally-installed lamp) to enable customers with those televisions to obtain a new and improved lamp free of charge if the originally-installed lamp fails. If you own one of the DLP television models listed below, please enter your serial number in the box below to determine if your particular DLP television qualifies for this extended warranty. The serial number can be located on the back panel of the television. Be assured that Toshiba DLP televisions are of the highest quality and this update regards a limited issue. Since this is the Toshiba DLP (HM/HMX) Owner's thread,this is old hat to a lot of us. But, just in case someone new is searching to find out about this........here it is again :)

skaterdad
07-03-06, 10:48 PM
I am still new to the form and constantly researching threads on the HM series. I read alot of negative posts about lamp failure, and it seems like Toshiba is handeling it as best as possible. I think with every technology there will be failures, and problems for example PC video cards , hard drives etc. The posters with bad lamps have yet to comment on their set up and placement of these sets which I think belong on a stand with ample ventilation. On the flip side can we get other posters to tell us about their positive experience, how well their sets perform and also their set up. To some this post may sound stupid, but I sense that a lot of people rushed out and bought the latest and greatest and not expecting issues and when the latter present itself disappointment sets and may be some buyers remourse. So please lets see how many happy toshiba HM/HMX 95 / 66 ARE OUT THERE.

bruin95
07-04-06, 02:12 AM
I play DVD+R and even DL disks just fine on my Toshiba HDA1.

That's interesting because the specs on the HD-A1 don't include being able to play "+" discs and I emailed Toshiba and they wrote back stating it was NOT recommended to attempt to play that type of media in this player. Why? I have no clue. Very strange.

Rudy1
07-04-06, 11:39 AM
I am still new to the form and constantly researching threads on the HM series. I read alot of negative posts about lamp failure, and it seems like Toshiba is handeling it as best as possible. I think with every technology there will be failures, and problems for example PC video cards , hard drives etc. The posters with bad lamps have yet to comment on their set up and placement of these sets which I think belong on a stand with ample ventilation. On the flip side can we get other posters to tell us about their positive experience, how well their sets perform and also their set up. To some this post may sound stupid, but I sense that a lot of people rushed out and bought the latest and greatest and not expecting issues and when the latter present itself disappointment sets and may be some buyers remourse. So please lets see how many happy toshiba HM/HMX 95 / 66 ARE OUT THERE.

I agree entirely. Those who've suffered premature lamp failures have my full sympathy, and I know if I'd been among them I'd be furious too. But I have yet to read anything in any of the posts (both negative and positive) that was not mentioned in the online media when the first Toshiba DLP's came out...and that includes the high cost of the replacement lamps and the possibility that they might not last as long as they're rated. I will agree that these TVs are not perfect in every aspect of their performance, but the issues that have plagued these sets (primarily the lamp failures and the TVGOS issues) are only partly Toshiba's responsibility. I'm quite sure the lamp manufacturer didn't warn Toshiba's buyers that some batches may have a high failure rate; as for Gemstar's TVGOS...well, they'd be the first to remind everyone that their service is free, so what do you expect? They don't even have a user friendly customer service operation, telling end users instead to contact their device manufacturer.

The steps Toshiba has taken to address these issues may not be what we all would've wanted (and, in my opinion, came a little too late), but at least they've admitted that there ARE issues. I think that is a big step in the right direction.

LR6AGB001
07-04-06, 07:38 PM
Hey everyone, kinda need some advice as to what the problems on my 52HMX84 could be. I've been a proud owner of the set for 1.5 years now and the only problem I've come across during that time was lamp dying out sooner than it was supposed to. Quick remedy to that was to replace the lamp with a new one sent in by Toshiba, now since May there has been some flickering on the set which is intermittent. It comes and goes from time to time but when a similar problem arose with my lamp, the flickering on screen was more visible. There is no absolute way to reproduce the problem on screen intentionally so I'm a bit weary of having a Tech. coming to check out the set only to find that nothing is wrong with it. I would appreciate whatever feedback members here can provide and also has anyone else had this problem in the past?

Hi everyone, well I had a tech come over and review the set and well there was no problems with the set during his visit and he said to call back if the problem persisted. What really troubled me was, he said if it's a light engine problem which he doubts...once it's damaged then it's damaged. He said we would be willing to replace the light engine if I gave him the okay but I think that's a bit extreme. Sure enough an hour or two later, the problem reared it's ugly head. So with a large number of posts discussing lamps dying out before they're supposed to, I'm beginning to wonder if it's in fact the lamp once again. I replaced the lamp on Jan 1st of this year and it's only July, so that does sort of make sense. A lamp would take only a matter of days if it's in stock whereas the light engine could take a number of weeks to ship in and install. Seeing as how a few members here are knowledgeable in such matters, what is your take on this? Appreciate the feedback and enjoy the 4th everyone.

rfr
07-04-06, 08:26 PM
My three-month-old 62HM195 is experiencing subtle flickering. I think it first appeared (or I first noticed it) about three weeks ago. It occurred after the TV was switched on and lasted for several minutes. Now it seems to last indefinitely. Every so often a very rapid, subtle flutter in brightness occurs. It lasts for less than a second and goes away. Then a few seconds or minutes later it happens again. It is very difficult to describe accurately.

When the World Cup is finished, I'll call Toshiba customer service.

Don1959
07-04-06, 10:07 PM
My three-month-old 62HM195 is experiencing subtle flickering. I think it first appeared (or I first noticed it) about three weeks ago. It occurred after the TV was switched on and lasted for several minutes. Now it seems to last indefinitely. Every so often a very rapid, subtle flutter in brightness occurs. It lasts for less than a second and goes away. Then a few seconds or minutes later it happens again. It is very difficult to describe accurately.

When the World Cup is finished, I'll call Toshiba customer service.

I had a similar problem with my previous DLP, a Samsung.... the problem turned out to be a bad DMD board..... the replacement board also had the same problem.... so I ended up getting my Toshiba as a warranty replacement.....

volblood
07-05-06, 10:03 AM
Has anyone seen the new 42hm66 dlp set? What is everyone's take on the new 50hm66? This tv look amazing. Are these new sets better than last years?

sundowner8
07-05-06, 10:52 AM
I have, what I think, is a problem with my 52HM95. I use the internal HD tuner for my OTA local digital channels. Once every few weeks I loose one of the digital channels and I have to rescan. Last night I lost all of the digital channels and had to unplug the TV and rescan to get them back. Anyone have the same issue?

ragtop262
07-05-06, 02:39 PM
My three-month-old 62HM195 is experiencing subtle flickering. I think it first appeared (or I first noticed it) about three weeks ago. It occurred after the TV was switched on and lasted for several minutes. Now it seems to last indefinitely. Every so often a very rapid, subtle flutter in brightness occurs. It lasts for less than a second and goes away. Then a few seconds or minutes later it happens again. It is very difficult to describe accurately.

When the World Cup is finished, I'll call Toshiba customer service.

Although there could be other causes, flickering is very common just before the lamp fails. If you start to lose brightness, then its almost certainly the lamp. Hopefully it makes it through the World Cup final before it pops :confused:

bobbygrin22
07-06-06, 09:53 AM
I have, what I think, is a problem with my 52HM95. I use the internal HD tuner for my OTA local digital channels. Once every few weeks I loose one of the digital channels and I have to rescan. Last night I lost all of the digital channels and had to unplug the TV and rescan to get them back. Anyone have the same issue?

I have the same issue with my 52HM95 as well. I just unplug and rescan as well. Don't know if there is an actual fix for it though. :rolleyes:

DanzBorin
07-06-06, 09:54 AM
I have the same issue with my 52HM95 as well. I just unplug and rescan as well. Don't know if there is an actual fix for it though. :rolleyes:
firmware perhaps?

could also be an iterruption of power...

nhatduongchi
07-06-06, 03:23 PM
Did anyone successfully display 1080i using DVI-HDMI cable + Powerstrip? I can only display 720p but not 1080i (flickering all the time), and I use Matrox P650 video card on my PC

Thanks

bskousen
07-07-06, 02:34 AM
For the sake of accuracy(which for some unknown reason seems to incite those who simply can't say"I didn't mean that or some other excuse,not this post,per say,but certainly others here lately.)most people are evidently,quite happy.Thousands of these displays are being sold each year.Many,many,thousands.Toshiba did, in fact, have a problem with a well documented(see webpage for serial #s)number of sets.These lamps are supplied by another mfr. to Toshiba. I don't work for Toshiba or anyone else. Has anyone else noticed that the number of complaints is well down.This is because the problem is being handled. And,quite well I feel. The fact that happy owners don't post here is widely known. Your mad,come here and complain. OK. I have been there too. There are the occasional problems. But, to condemn a company(whoever) the way we see here is just fruitless. Preaching to the choir, as it were.
Toshiba has shown their desire to serve their customer as promptly and fairly as is their duty. It took time to pinpoint (or, try to) the run of bad lamps.Further, in their awareness of customer feedback, they have provided two updates in the last two months. since the introduction of their HD-DVDs. I am sure they will provide more as needed. I believe there are a great many out there who have had a very good relationship with Toshiba.Tested by the occasional problem(mine are documented here) or maybe not,but,they have handled mine and others, promply, and I believe, fairly.We all deal with big companies all the time. Every day. You say they lost your buisness.I think they never had it. Again...just my .02 :)


You are incorrect regarding they never had my business. I am typing this on a Toshiba laptop, the second one I've owned. I still have a 50" CRTRP Toshiba that is seven years old and running just fine. The problem is it's only 480i. I returned my new Toshiba DLP merely because I wasn't satisfied that Toshiba has corrected the problem. I refuse to be their beta tester. This is not because of new technology. These lamps have been around for years. They are basically identical to front projectors. I have an Infocus projector and its lamp hasn't failed yet. Yes, it may very well be shoddy manufacturing, but that's Toshiba's problem. They should have exercised better quality control in a product with their name on it. I don't care if they make the lamps or not. It's in their TVs. I would buy another Toshiba TV, but only a model with a reliable reputation. $2,000 is too much money to spend for unreliability.

enmoco
07-07-06, 08:15 AM
06-28-06, 09:31 AM #1 (Print)
bskousen
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I just purchased the 62HM15A before looking on this web site and discovering all of the serious issues with defective and/or prematurely failing lamps. I opened the stand box and have assembled it, but have not opened the TV box. I am seriously considering taking the whole thing back to the store today. This lamp issue has me really worried. I have no problem with getting 3,000-5,000 hours on a lamp. It's the very likely idea of the lamps going out after two or three months of "light" use (no pun intended). What would you guys do? Has Toshiba figured out the issues with the lamps? This makes me want to seriously consider going with a flat panel LCD instead. I have had an older Toshiba rear projector TV for six years with absolutely no problems. Are all the TV manufacturers with user replaceable lamps in DLP and LCD TVs having problems with premature lamp failure I am familiar with your past purchase...

cicc85
07-07-06, 10:14 AM
You are incorrect regarding they never had my business. I am typing this on a Toshiba laptop, the second one I've owned. I still have a 50" CRTRP Toshiba that is seven years old and running just fine. The problem is it's only 480i. I returned my new Toshiba DLP merely because I wasn't satisfied that Toshiba has corrected the problem. I refuse to be their beta tester. This is not because of new technology. These lamps have been around for years. They are basically identical to front projectors. I have an Infocus projector and its lamp hasn't failed yet. Yes, it may very well be shoddy manufacturing, but that's Toshiba's problem. They should have exercised better quality control in a product with their name on it. I don't care if they make the lamps or not. It's in their TVs. I would buy another Toshiba TV, but only a model with a reliable reputation. $2,000 is too much money to spend for unreliability.

I agree with your very level headed and logical post. I own a 56HM195 and am very happy with the picture and functionality of the TV.

However, my original lamp did pop after only 325 hours which was very disappointing but Toshiba was very quick to get me back up and running on a new lamp. Unfortunately, the new lamp looked exactly like the old one so I have a feeling I'll be back in contact with them after another 3 or 4 months with the same issue. I'm hoping that over the course of my warranty, they'll work out these issues and I'll either finally be outfitted with a lamp that will last 2500+ hours or they'll drop considerably in price. :)

Rudy1
07-07-06, 12:59 PM
I have had really bad luck with a couple of Toshiba CRT RPTVs in the past, and still I chose to purchase not one, but two of their DLPs. Why? Because they offered the exact feature set I wanted at the right price point. My advice to everyone who feels that the risk inherent in purchasing a Toshiba is too high: go with another brand. If you've already purchased a TV and you are within the retailer's return period, return the set immediately. If you are beyond that, but within the manufacturer's warranty period, then what you do is up to you and whatever legal means are available in your state. There are simply too many other options out there for buyers to feel that they have no other choice but to put up with what some feel is a total lack of customer support (and extreme unreliability) on the part of Toshiba.

I will not go into details on what happened with those 2 hidef RPTVs I mentioned, but suffice it to say that if I had been a stockholder I would've immediately dumped my shares.

enmoco
07-07-06, 03:36 PM
http://www.toshiba.co.jp/about/ir/en/finance/pl.htm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Toshiba world wide sales over last 5 years.

enmoco
07-07-06, 10:20 PM
The Toshiba DLP (HM/HMX) Owners Thread

bskousen
07-08-06, 12:58 AM
I am familiar with your past purchase...


I don't know how that's possible since I've never mentioned it before and I have never been in this thread before. Besides, I purchased my 480i Toshiba RP about seven years ago. I DID purchase an Infocus 4805 DLP projector for my theater room last year and love it. The Toshiba DLP RP was to be for my family room. As you know, I have since returned it and purchased the new Sony KDF-55E2000 3LCD RP. I have to say though that I prefer the DLP picture over and LCD picture. Better contrast. I'm just not yet willing to gamble with Toshiba's quality control. Maybe they've fixed the problem and the lamps will last closer to their estimated life in the future. Oh well. I've never been much of a risk-taker.

enmoco
07-08-06, 12:52 PM
I don't know how that's possible since I've never mentioned it before and I have never been in this thread before. Besides, I purchased my 480i Toshiba RP about seven years ago. I DID purchase an Infocus 4805 DLP projector for my theater room last year and love it. The Toshiba DLP RP was to be for my family room. As you know, I have since returned it and purchased the new Sony KDF-55E2000 3LCD RP. I have to say though that I prefer the DLP picture over and LCD picture. Better contrast. I'm just not yet willing to gamble with Toshiba's quality control. Maybe they've fixed the problem and the lamps will last closer to their estimated life in the future. Oh well. I've never been much of a risk-taker.
06-28-06, 09:31 AM #1 (Print)
bskousen
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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I just purchased the 62HM15A before looking on this web site and discovering all of the serious issues with defective and/or prematurely failing lamps. I opened the stand box and have assembled it, but have not opened the TV box. I am seriously considering taking the whole thing back to the store today. This lamp issue has me really worried. I have no problem with getting 3,000-5,000 hours on a lamp. It's the very likely idea of the lamps going out after two or three months of "light" use (no pun intended). What would you guys do? Has Toshiba figured out the issues with the lamps? This makes me want to seriously consider going with a flat panel LCD instead. I have had an older Toshiba rear projector TV for six years with absolutely no problems. Are all the TV manufacturers with user replaceable lamps in DLP and LCD TVs having problems with premature lamp failure

enmoco
07-08-06, 12:54 PM
The Toshiba DLP (HM/HMX) Owners Thread

LR6AGB001
07-08-06, 06:47 PM
Here is some interesting information that I managed to dig up...

All Toshiba owners with lamp failure take note: My 52HMX85 lamp failed after a couple of months 400+ hours. They did cover the replacement under warranty but also sent a service tech to do it.

Turns out the lamp failures are known to Toshiba due to a software issue controlling the bulb temperature. Mine was ver # 18, which had to be changed to # 19. The bulb has to operate within a specific range: too high or too low and it will fail prematurely.

He also said that Toshiba now recommended the high lamp setting for longer life

When the technician drops by on July the 12th, I'll have him confirm this information with Toshiba directly seeing as if I would call they might just deny it but to a certified tech then they might sing a different tune.

I've also e-mailed Toshiba yesterday and I've yet to hear back from them, my lamp is should still be covered considering it was exchanged just last Dec. and it hasn't reached it's full year of use.

enmoco
07-08-06, 07:32 PM
Here is some interesting information that I managed to dig up...



When the technician drops by on July the 12th, I'll have him confirm this information with Toshiba directly seeing as if I would call they might just deny it but to a certified tech then they might sing a different tune.

I've also e-mailed Toshiba yesterday and I've yet to hear back from them, my lamp is should still be covered considering it was exchanged just last Dec. and it hasn't reached it's full year of use.You should have received the letter from Toshiba regarding a free "new" lamp since yours was replaced before the"new" came out.http://home.wi.rr.com/ragtop262/Toshiba%20Lamp.pdf........

vertigo101_14
07-10-06, 10:59 AM
Hey guys, I'm trying to find the 1.3.1 or 1.3.2 firmware for my 62hm95. Toshiba has already sent me 1 firmware update, but it was 1.2.8. I really don't need another free SD card, so if someone could please PM me the update, or provide a link, it would really help me out.

My guide has been screwey, and my wife's getting impatient...lol

LR6AGB001
07-10-06, 04:28 PM
You should have received the letter from Toshiba regarding a free "new" lamp since yours was replaced before the"new" came out.http://home.wi.rr.com/ragtop262/Toshiba%20Lamp.pdf........

Useful information and good to know Toshiba is taking responsibility for this problem but after checking the Toshiba website and calling tech support, the 52HMX84 does not apply. Unfortunate problem indeed but for faster service I guess I'll have to resort to having the tech bringing in a lamp from the shop and installing it while he's at it. Ever since I left the lamp on HIGH lamp mode for the past week it seems the problem is no longer happening, either way a new lamp wouldn't hurt.

enmoco
07-10-06, 04:52 PM
I've also e-mailed Toshiba yesterday and I've yet to hear back from them, my lamp is should still be covered considering it was exchanged just last Dec. and it hasn't reached it's full year of use.Sorry,I thought from the last of your post that you had a "bad" lamp replaced in Dec. I should have paid further attention to your model number......Good luck. :)

Amazingly Smooth
07-10-06, 08:59 PM
My lamp died tonight... I jumped on to Toshiba's website (listed earlier in this thread) to check if my unit qualifies for an extended bulb warranty. It doesn't. I have a 52HM84. I think it is still within the first year, but if not I have an EW. We shall see, but this stinks.

Cheers

preludejtstyle
07-10-06, 10:25 PM
The Toshiba Website is showing the 196 models again and doing a search on the model shows that some of the mail order companies are showing they carry them and they are in stock. Now I need to go and bicker some more :D

but will the 62hmx96 or 62hmx196 ever actually be released, or are they being replaced with the 62mx196 and the 62HM96 (if it is even made)?

riverbrat
07-11-06, 01:01 AM
I'm glad that I found this site. My D95-LMP lamp for my 62HM95 blew out on me - second time - Friday, 7/7/2006 almost exactly 5 months after the first replacement bulb which lasted just under 5 months. I contacted the authorized service facility in my area and they said that Toshiba told them to replace the lamp for free. Good news for me. The paperwork on the last bulb said the warranty was for 180 days but the tech said it was 90 day. Seeing that they have come up with a "new" lamp has me hoping that I will receive the latest generation bulb. This blowing out every 5 months is the pits! I love the picture on the set when the bulb is working correctly. Interesting that Toshiba is recommending the high setting now. I've been using the low setting even for daytime viewing because I've had no problems seeing the action on the screen - except when the bulb is getting ready to blow (picture gets VERY dark and dim) and when that's happening, no amount of adjusting of bulb or brightness/contrast makes the picture good. Except for this bulb thing, I love my Toshiba! I'll check out the Toshiba website, too, to see what they have to say. Thanks!

krumps
07-11-06, 01:15 PM
Can someone email me the newest firmware. Just put you card into the computer and email me the files. Email me at nfskrumps at aim

I'm on 1.2 I need newer because the HD rec. doesnt work well. 52HMX94

magredc5
07-11-06, 01:33 PM
I'm glad that I found this site. My D95-LMP lamp for my 62HM95 blew out on me - second time - Friday, 7/7/2006 almost exactly 5 months after the first replacement bulb which lasted just under 5 months. I contacted the authorized service facility in my area and they said that Toshiba told them to replace the lamp for free. Good news for me. The paperwork on the last bulb said the warranty was for 180 days but the tech said it was 90 day. Seeing that they have come up with a "new" lamp has me hoping that I will receive the latest generation bulb. This blowing out every 5 months is the pits! I love the picture on the set when the bulb is working correctly. !

You should have received a letter from Toshiba and a free advance lamp replacement as per the Toshiba announcement earlier this year. The net result is you still get the new replacement for free but you would have had the spare bulb in hand.

Interesting that Toshiba is recommending the high setting now. I've been using the low setting even for daytime viewing because I've had no problems seeing the action on the screen - except when the bulb is getting ready to blow (picture gets VERY dark and dim) and when that's happening, no amount of adjusting of bulb or brightness/contrast makes the picture good. Except for this bulb thing, I love my Toshiba! I'll check out the Toshiba website, too, to see what they have to say. Thanks!

I assume you're comment on high setting is based on the post by LR6AGB001:

Turns out the lamp failures are known to Toshiba due to a software issue controlling the bulb temperature. Mine was ver # 18, which had to be changed to # 19. The bulb has to operate within a specific range: too high or too low and it will fail prematurely.

He also said that Toshiba now recommended the high lamp setting for longer life !

I was waiting to see if there would be anyone substantiating this comment, which may have been made by the service tech but makes absolutely no sense to me and has not been substantiated by anyone including several people on this forum that have very close connections to Toshiba customer service personnel after working with them on problems with their TVs.

The S/W comment makes no sense since there is no #18 or #19 version that I've come across in my TV. The Seine build contains S/W modules for multiple processors so any code change would have been included in there.

As for the high lamp setting, the owner's manual explicitly states that low lamp mode will extend the life of the bulb, so "IF" Toshiba did in fact make a discovery that high lamp mode was now recommended over low lamp mode (which as an electrical engineer makes no sense to me) I would expect that they do one or more of the following: Post a product notice on their website, send a manual amendment to their affected customers, send a notice to all premature failed lamp users, recommend the setting change when you call TCS in for lamp issues, send a S/W update that fixes the issue, send a S/W update that disables low lamp mode, etc. Based on all the above, I do not think that recommendation came from Toshiba, but please someone prove me wrong.

P.S. I've been running on Low Lamp mode since I purchased my set 9 months ago with ~2000 hours on the original bulb. I do have the latest S/W (1.3.2).

vfraley
07-11-06, 05:35 PM
Hello to all,
I found this website while investigating a lamp failure on my Toshiba 62HMX95 tv. We bought the tv 11/28/05 and after following the instructions listed on this site, the set shows 2499 hours on the bulb. Unknowingly, we kept the set on High setting. We bought the set at HH Gregg and the salesman told us nothing about having to replace lamps in DLP televisions. If we had known about the additional expense during the life of the tv, we would have either bought the extended warranty or bought a different type of tv. I checked and for us to get a 5 year extended warranty now would cost us $755.78. Can't afford that but what can you do?
I wanted to thank you all for the excellent information provided here. While I am waiting for Toshiba to send me a lamp (under warranty), I found one on e-bay for $189.95 and had it overnighted for a total of $225.95. You could also call Kam Tools or e-bay store name (Flash-tronics TV) at 724-346-3700. The lamp was on my doorstep when I arrived home from work at 4:00 today. The new and improved lamp will have a blue dot on the label of the box. I installed and is working fine. At least this way I'll have a spare lamp.
Again THANKS TO ALL

Traveler62
07-11-06, 07:45 PM
The new and improved lamp will have a blue dot on the label of the box.
You just had to mention the Blue Dot :eek:

So far we have found this to mean nothing. My new lamp straight from Toshiba about 2 months ago was supposed to be the new style and didn't have the Blue Dot. I somewhat suspect that you may want to source lamps still from an authorized Toshiba Outlet because there may still be a supply of the faulty lamps at some places. You can search back in this string and find many entrys mentioning the Blue Dot. Oh the flashbacks :D

CrashMaster
07-11-06, 11:37 PM
Well I have been an owner of a 56mx195 since Nov. of 05.... A couple of things I have found out.
1. I do see the "rainbow effect" (but only when you have high contrast things like the death star with space behind it or the THX test)

2. I still realy liked the picture I got ..(even though I only have SD cable)

3. I just joined the "blown bulb club" tonight even though I hardly watch the TV during the week. ( did not have a chance to check how many hours I have watched the tv but doing the math its most likely under 400 hours maybe under 300 hours)

4 would I recomend the TV to others?? .. YES but only if they cannot see the "rainbow effect"

Andy

Don1959
07-12-06, 12:30 AM
LOL - blue dots... blue dots..... blue dots....

LR6AGB001
07-12-06, 03:16 AM
You should have received a letter from Toshiba and a free advance lamp replacement as per the Toshiba announcement earlier this year. The net result is you still get the new replacement for free but you would have had the spare bulb in hand.



I assume you're comment on high setting is based on the post by LR6AGB001:



I was waiting to see if there would be anyone substantiating this comment, which may have been made by the service tech but makes absolutely no sense to me and has not been substantiated by anyone including several people on this forum that have very close connections to Toshiba customer service personnel after working with them on problems with their TVs.

The S/W comment makes no sense since there is no #18 or #19 version that I've come across in my TV. The Seine build contains S/W modules for multiple processors so any code change would have been included in there.

As for the high lamp setting, the owner's manual explicitly states that low lamp mode will extend the life of the bulb, so "IF" Toshiba did in fact make a discovery that high lamp mode was now recommended over low lamp mode (which as an electrical engineer makes no sense to me) I would expect that they do one or more of the following: Post a product notice on their website, send a manual amendment to their affected customers, send a notice to all premature failed lamp users, recommend the setting change when you call TCS in for lamp issues, send a S/W update that fixes the issue, send a S/W update that disables low lamp mode, etc. Based on all the above, I do not think that recommendation came from Toshiba, but please someone prove me wrong.

P.S. I've been running on Low Lamp mode since I purchased my set 9 months ago with ~2000 hours on the original bulb. I do have the latest S/W (1.3.2).

Don't bite my head off but a friend of mine said he tried this on his 62HMX84. I believe the HMX series pretty much use the same lamp. He attached this quote to the email...

For the 2004 models:

With TV turned on:

1. Press "mute" on the remote - 1/2 mute appears on the screen
2. Press "mute" on the remote again - mute appears on the screen
3. Press "mute" on the remote and hold the mute button -
4. Press the "Menu" button on the TV's front panel. "S" will appear in the upper right corner of the screen.
5. Press the "Menu" button a second time and the "S" will disappear. On the left side of the screen you will see "RCUT" followed by two numbers.
You are now in the service mode.
6. Press "9" on the remote and you will access the diagnostics page. In the right hand corner is the lamp time in hours.
7. Press "power" button on remote to exit the menu and power off the TV.

CAUTION: Do not use the up and down volume keys on the remote in this menu as it can alter the data and can be dangerous.

For the 2005 models:

With TV turned on:

1. Press "mute" on the remote - 1/2 mute appears on the screen
2. Press "mute" on the remote again - mute appears on the screen
3. Press "mute" on the remote and hold the mute button -
4. Press the "Menu" button on the TV's front panel. "S" will appear in the upper right corner of the screen.
5. Press the "Menu" button on the remote and the "S" will disappear. On the left side of the screen you will see "RCUT" followed by RCUT
ADDR DATA BINARY
224DH 00H 00000000B.
You are now in the service mode.
6. Press "9" on the remote and you will access the diagnostics page. In the right hand corner is the lamp time in hours.
7. Press "power" button on remote to exit the menu and power off the TV.

CAUTION: Do not use the up and down volume keys on the remote in this menu as it can alter the data and can be dangerous.

As for the service menu, I most certainly will not bother checking or adjusting. I'll be glad to point the finger at the service tech should he go in there and adjust something that was not meant to be. But for the brave, do try it out as it would serve quite useful in this thread. I contacted Toshiba today and they said they'll look into the matter and contact the tech that handled my TV last time. I shouldn't have jumped the gun and mentioned the lamp replacements, seeing as how my set doesn't qualify for one on the website. Now I believe they're a bit suspicious and they want to confirm it before sending out a brand new lamp. This is quite disappointing to me, 2 lamps in 14 months. I should also mention that since the change from last week from low to high lamp mode, there has been no flickering of any kind on my set. Either way, I'll feel much more at ease with a new lamp.

vfraley
07-12-06, 05:23 PM
You just had to mention the Blue Dot :eek:

So far we have found this to mean nothing. My new lamp straight from Toshiba about 2 months ago was supposed to be the new style and didn't have the Blue Dot. I somewhat suspect that you may want to source lamps still from an authorized Toshiba Outlet because there may still be a supply of the faulty lamps at some places. You can search back in this string and find many entrys mentioning the Blue Dot. Oh the flashbacks :D
SORRY for the flashback. As I said, I am new to this site and after sitting and reading posts for a couple hours (trying to get as much info as I could), I just couldn't read anymore. The new lamp is different from the one that blew in that it is open on one side compared to the one that blew. I am assuming that this is one of the changes in the improved bulb.

Traveler62
07-12-06, 07:10 PM
SORRY for the flashback. As I said, I am new to this site and after sitting and reading posts for a couple hours (trying to get as much info as I could), I just couldn't read anymore. The new lamp is different from the one that blew in that it is open on one side compared to the one that blew. I am assuming that this is one of the changes in the improved bulb.
Did you get the manufacture date off the box? Mine had 2006.04.12. I did not see any difference with the cage for the lamp between old and new. One side was open, other side had 17 holes (with the plug wires) and the top had one larger hole. The reason this has been an issue is some people thought they were getting a new style bulb and they had them fail after 3 months.

glennh73
07-12-06, 10:44 PM
Ok guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask this question, but here it goes. I have a 52hm94 that i got in Aug 05 and im having audio lag issues while using my DishNetwork reveiver or DVD Player.

Its on all the stations SD an HD and all the DVDs i play. Its like their lips are a few micro second off from the audio and its driving me nuts.

Is there any fix for this? Its kind of hard to prove unless someone is on screen talking like SportsCenter or such.

Has anyone had this problem and if i call Toshiba will they give me a hassle?

Im close to just selling the tv cause of this issue cause im affraid it cant be fixed or it wont be covered in warrenty.

blauter78
07-13-06, 07:21 AM
I have question. I own a 62hm195 (1080p native) and I know it de-interlaces a 1080i source pretty well but how does it handle 720p? I heard of some sets actually takes the 720 and chops it to 540 then just doubles it. Does anyone know how my set handles this?

DanzBorin
07-13-06, 08:55 AM
Ok guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask this question, but here it goes. I have a 52hm94 that i got in Aug 05 and im having audio lag issues while using my DishNetwork reveiver or DVD Player.

Its on all the stations SD an HD and all the DVDs i play. Its like their lips are a few micro second off from the audio and its driving me nuts.

Is there any fix for this? Its kind of hard to prove unless someone is on screen talking like SportsCenter or such.

Has anyone had this problem and if i call Toshiba will they give me a hassle?

Im close to just selling the tv cause of this issue cause im affraid it cant be fixed or it wont be covered in warrenty.
Do you have a receiver? If so, run all your audio to that... I had dish network and never had any problem w/ audio sync...

Traveler62
07-13-06, 08:56 AM
Ok guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask this question, but here it goes. I have a 52hm94 that i got in Aug 05 and im having audio lag issues while using my DishNetwork reveiver or DVD Player.

Its on all the stations SD an HD and all the DVDs i play. Its like their lips are a few micro second off from the audio and its driving me nuts.

Is there any fix for this? Its kind of hard to prove unless someone is on screen talking like SportsCenter or such.

Has anyone had this problem and if i call Toshiba will they give me a hassle?

Im close to just selling the tv cause of this issue cause im affraid it cant be fixed or it wont be covered in warrenty.
If this lag is coming from the TV speakers, I would say call and have a technician look at it.
If this is from an A/V reciever, you might try using the output from the TV (I am not sure if this model has an output) instead of coming straight from the DVD or Cable Box.

vfraley
07-13-06, 08:58 AM
Did you get the manufacture date off the box? Mine had 2006.04.12. I did not see any difference with the cage for the lamp between old and new. One side was open, other side had 17 holes (with the plug wires) and the top had one larger hole. The reason this has been an issue is some people thought they were getting a new style bulb and they had them fail after 3 months.
The side opposite the plug side is completely cut out on my new lamp. The old one only had a slot cut out on the upper and lower side had a plate across the center. The mfg date on the new lamp is 3/08/06.

mcoughlin
07-13-06, 08:59 AM
Well the signal board replacement did not fix my problem. Still get the green and pink screen colors and now I get an awful buzzing noise from the fans.
Sounds like it may be the Light Engine. Tech is scheduled for tomorrow.
If that doesn't do it I will fight for a return.

magredc5
07-13-06, 09:40 AM
Well the signal board replacement did not fix my problem. Still get the green and pink screen colors and now I get an awful buzzing noise from the fans.
Sounds like it may be the Light Engine. Tech is scheduled for tomorrow.
If that doesn't do it I will fight for a return.

The buzzing noise you're hearing could actually be the color wheel, which would also explain the color issues. If that's the case, then the light engine will be replaced.

nikonosis
07-13-06, 02:24 PM
I have a 52hm95 that ive had for 2 1/2 months and the bulb just blew today. I already ordered a replacement from toshiba that should be here in 5 days. Well anyways my question is, has anyone confirmed this stuff about the bulb lasting longer in high mode over low and what about this version 18 and 19 stuff? Is any of this true or just rumours? If you think about this, what happens when you run a single way bulb in a 3 way lamp for awhile, The bulb doesnt last very long if you use it in the lower power modes. Im wondering if the same could be true about our tvs... I hope someone can answer this before i get my new lamp so i know what setting to run it on!

magredc5
07-13-06, 05:03 PM
I have a 52hm95 that ive had for 2 1/2 months and the bulb just blew today. I already ordered a replacement from toshiba that should be here in 5 days. Well anyways my question is, has anyone confirmed this stuff about the bulb lasting longer in high mode over low and what about this version 18 and 19 stuff? Is any of this true or just rumours? If you think about this, what happens when you run a single way bulb in a 3 way lamp for awhile, The bulb doesnt last very long if you use it in the lower power modes. Im wondering if the same could be true about our tvs... I hope someone can answer this before i get my new lamp so i know what setting to run it on!

No one responded to my similar question which continues to lead me to the impression this is bunk.

These arc discharge lamps generate high internal heat and pressure during their use. The bulb envelope is made of quartz to handle the pressure. Many if not the majority of the posts I've read about lamp failures involved a "pop", which is a catastrophic failure of the quartz envelope at high pressure. This would imply either the quartz envelope had a defect that weakened over time, or the electronic power supply controlling the lamp was not properly controlling the amperage of the lamp and let it run too high. Also, the fact that many saw flickering prior the bulb failure could further point to the power supply of the lamp not properly maintaining the amperage. In fact, one report I read indicated that flicker could be caused by high amperage on the lamp.

So if you follow this logic, running the lamp in low bright mode means running it on lower amperage, hence lower heat and lower pressure which would put less strain on it.

This assumes the power supply is properly controlling the amperage. The question I have is whether the power supply is part of the lamp module (I believe it is but haven't seen one), and if that's the case then there is a possibility the failure is caused by a faulty power supply and not a defect in the bulb itself. This is just my own brainstorming so don't take this as fact.

Again, regarding the hi/low settings, someone please prove me wrong.

nikonosis
07-13-06, 05:08 PM
my lamp did flicker before it went out, it would only flicker during the warmup time on the tv and as soon as it went into low power mode it would quit.

Traveler62
07-13-06, 05:33 PM
I agree with you about it should be better to use the lower power. The only way I could see it being a problem would be going down in Voltage/Current to a point where the arc would start breaking down. I do not know much about these lamps, but there would be a low limit where the power supply may struggle to keep the arc. If this was the case, I believe you would see some major flickering on the screen. I am going to try to attach a picture of my old lamp that was dim, but hadn't popped yet so you can see the bubble it made.

enmoco
07-13-06, 08:33 PM
I have a 52hm95 that ive had for 2 1/2 months and the bulb just blew today. I already ordered a replacement from toshiba that should be here in 5 days. Well anyways my question is, has anyone confirmed this stuff about the bulb lasting longer in high mode over low and what about this version 18 and 19 stuff? Is any of this true or just rumours? If you think about this, what happens when you run a single way bulb in a 3 way lamp for awhile, The bulb doesnt last very long if you use it in the lower power modes. Im wondering if the same could be true about our tvs... I hope someone can answer this before i get my new lamp so i know what setting to run it on!


From Toshiba
Thanks for writing!



We appreciate your interest in Toshiba.



If you are looking to get the longest life of your lamp you would use the low setting. For further assistance, I recommend contacting our Customer Solutions Department at 1-800-631-3811. They are available Mon-Fri, 8AM to 7PM Central time.





Toshiba Customer Service
--Original.

nikonosis
07-13-06, 09:44 PM
so that whole thing about high power was bull crap? Is the lamp power supply built into the lamps and how good are these new lamps. should i be worried about it breaking in 2-3 months again?

vfr781rider
07-13-06, 09:51 PM
I have a 52hm95 that ive had for 2 1/2 months and the bulb just blew today. I already ordered a replacement from toshiba that should be here in 5 days. Well anyways my question is, has anyone confirmed this stuff about the bulb lasting longer in high mode over low and what about this version 18 and 19 stuff? Is any of this true or just rumours? If you think about this, what happens when you run a single way bulb in a 3 way lamp for awhile, The bulb doesnt last very long if you use it in the lower power modes. Im wondering if the same could be true about our tvs... I hope someone can answer this before i get my new lamp so i know what setting to run it on!

As a data point, I've had my 62MX195 for 8 months on the original bulb. Mine is on the list for the 2 year warranty. Nice to be lucky :)

nikonosis
07-13-06, 10:56 PM
As a data point, I've had my 62MX195 for 8 months on the original bulb. Mine is on the list for the 2 year warranty. Nice to be lucky :)

it sure is, i never have any luck.

magredc5
07-13-06, 11:47 PM
I agree with you about it should be better to use the lower power. The only way I could see it being a problem would be going down in Voltage/Current to a point where the arc would start breaking down. I do not know much about these lamps, but there would be a low limit where the power supply may struggle to keep the arc. If this was the case, I believe you would see some major flickering on the screen. I am going to try to attach a picture of my old lamp that was dim, but hadn't popped yet so you can see the bubble it made.

I haven't seen what the bulb looks like, but is the light source the blob in the center of your picture with the dark marks on it? If it is, then the dark marks are signs of problems managing the arc, and the shape of the blob looks like it was starting to distort due to excessive temp.

enmoco
07-13-06, 11:49 PM
so that whole thing about high power was bull crap? Is the lamp power supply built into the lamps and how good are these new lamps. should i be worried about it breaking in 2-3 months again? So is the blue dot theory. The dots have nothing to do with what version a lamp is. I have been told three times now that it is just a Toshiba inventory tracking mark.PERIOD ON THE DOTS.We all went roundy-round on this several months ago. Some people just seem to perpetuate the BS they hear or read. As I said many times in the past months,prove the "great Toshiba conspiracy" is a fact, or just drop that and try to deal with what CAN be proven.The he said, she said can go on forever.What with the fact they fessed up (Texican) about the problem run of lamps in the first place,plus all the updates on the HD-DVD players so fast,Tosh is not the corporate ogre some would have you believe.Talk to their "rude,stupid,ignorant,service reps" on the phone in the excited state these whiners post here and,well, lets say you might not hear what you want to hear.Work them small dogs hard all day,just rub their belly a little,and they'll work for ya hard when you ask 'em to.Is some of their stuff crap? Certainly!! All I'm saying is,communication with TCS will go as good as you let it, 99 out of 100 times.Worry?......Nah...........just an opinion...... :)

preludejtstyle
07-14-06, 12:16 PM
probably the wrong area, but....

What are the differences between the
62MX195...$3999.99 MSRP
62MX196...$3299.99 MSRP

Is the technology just getting cheaper, or is the 62mx196 a lower model?

Amazingly Smooth
07-14-06, 12:22 PM
My lamp died tonight... I jumped on to Toshiba's website (listed earlier in this thread) to check if my unit qualifies for an extended bulb warranty. It doesn't. I have a 52HM84. I think it is still within the first year, but if not I have an EW. We shall see, but this stinks.

Cheers

I was past my 1 year warranty so I called Best Buy to take advantage of the EW. Today they finally came. Of course, he was out of bulbs because they are so "popular". In his experience, these bulbs only last 15 months! I purchased a back-up bulb and popped it in after he left so the set is running, but 15 months sucks. I'm hopeful it dies two more times during my EW period. At least then, he said they would replace the set. 15 months is a joke--bad engineering Toshiba.

DanzBorin
07-14-06, 12:34 PM
probably the wrong area, but....

What are the differences between the
62MX195...$3999.99 MSRP
62MX196...$3299.99 MSRP

Is the technology just getting cheaper, or is the 62mx196 a lower model?
196 would be the 2006 model...

magredc5
07-14-06, 01:55 PM
I was past my 1 year warranty so I called Best Buy to take advantage of the EW. Today they finally came. Of course, he was out of bulbs because they are so "popular". In his experience, these bulbs only last 15 months! I purchased a back-up bulb and popped it in after he left so the set is running, but 15 months sucks. I'm hopeful it dies two more times during my EW period. At least then, he said they would replace the set. 15 months is a joke--bad engineering Toshiba.


So I guess regardless of how many hours on the lamp it will blow in 15 months. I would have asked the Geeksquad wannabee how he translated hours of use into a flat timeframe.

Amazingly Smooth
07-14-06, 02:25 PM
So I guess regardless of how many hours on the lamp it will blow in 15 months. I would have asked the Geeksquad wannabee how he translated hours of use into a flat timeframe.

It is silly to think that he would quote an exact timeframe. He was simply pointing out that in his experience these sets' bulbs last about 15 months with "normal" usage. Surely, if you never turn it on, it will last much longer, but I bet most people watch it on a more consistent level.

Regardless, I'm not sure what you have to gain by spouting off such slurs regarding Best Buy.

nikonosis
07-14-06, 03:46 PM
i would think with each year that goes by all dlp tv manufacturers will get better at making the lamps and they will last longer. I would like to see toshiba make an led lamp that can replace the quartz lamps that we currently run without buying an entire new tv.

nikonosis
07-14-06, 03:51 PM
i would also think that the lamps will get cheaper overtime...

glennh73
07-14-06, 07:09 PM
If this lag is coming from the TV speakers, I would say call and have a technician look at it.
If this is from an A/V reciever, you might try using the output from the TV (I am not sure if this model has an output) instead of coming straight from the DVD or Cable Box.


Yeah the lag is coming from the tv speakers as i have no A/V Receiver.
My speakers awhile ago were making weird noises , like everything was choppy and i would turn off the tv and then back on and it was fine


Was worried about it being something internal and not the speakers.

CrashMaster
07-14-06, 07:39 PM
I just got off the phone with support to order a new bulb and I asked the question about using the bulb in high or low mode.

They said that they had no notes sayingn that the MX tvs needed to be run in high mode to make the bulbs last longer, that low power mode is the mode that you should run the bulb to get the most life out of it. They also stated that the fan only has one speed so it should not make a diff if the bulb is in high or low mode.

I am getting a new bulb sent to me today and they also said they will include a prepaid box to ship the old bulb back to them which had under 300 hours on it I think...

Andy

preludejtstyle
07-14-06, 10:21 PM
196 would be the 2006 model...

Yeah I knew that. anything else?

magredc5
07-15-06, 01:24 AM
Regardless, I'm not sure what you have to gain by spouting off such slurs regarding Best Buy.

I have nothing against BB. They have a great selection of products at good prices. But I don't think that's where you go when you want good service, pre and post sales.

I just don't like hearing random non-factual comments. We've seen on this forum many times that rumors and comments such as these suddenly start a panic storm and debate on non-issues. I'm in the problem solving business, so I deal with facts.

;)

nikonosis
07-15-06, 02:46 PM
does anyone have some good calibration settings for a 52hm95 they got from avia? I searched all over and no one has posted any calibration settings for that tv...

LR6AGB001
07-15-06, 05:50 PM
Are you using High or Low lamp mode, I just got my filters in the mail from DVE and I'll be calibrating some time today. Although I should note that my Sony 975v DVD player has some settings within the player that need to be tweaked. -3 Tint, -2 color, -2 black, -2 contrast. So I'll post what my settings are but you might have to adjust abit for your DVD player.

Here is the reason why my DVD player needs such adjustments.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=465186&highlight=sony+975v

nikonosis
07-15-06, 07:43 PM
Are you using High or Low lamp mode, I just got my filters in the mail from DVE and I'll be calibrating some time today. Although I should note that my Sony 975v DVD player has some settings within the player that need to be tweaked. -3 Tint, -2 color, -2 black, -2 contrast. So I'll post what my settings are but you might have to adjust abit for your DVD player.

Here is the reason why my DVD player needs such adjustments.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=465186&highlight=sony+975v

probably low mode most the time. What all dd you get to calibrate your tv? I probably need to buy something to get it setup right

David Scott
07-15-06, 09:45 PM
I haven't been to this thread for some time, but have an HDMI problem. My HD-Tivo and Toshiba HD DVD player won't work via HDMI connection to my toshiba 52hmx84. With both of them I get some green flickering, but never syncs. My original HD-tivo worked with the hdmi, but after the hard drive failed the replacement wouldn't work via hdmi. Has anyone had there hdmi fixed or replaced?

nikonosis
07-15-06, 09:50 PM
I haven't been to this thread for some time, but have an HDMI problem. My HD-Tivo and Toshiba HD DVD player won't work via HDMI connection to my toshiba 52hmx84. With both of them I get some green flickering, but never syncs. My original HD-tivo worked with the hdmi, but after the hard drive failed the replacement wouldn't work via hdmi. Has anyone had there hdmi fixed or replaced?

you sure it doesnt have something to do with hdcp?

David Scott
07-15-06, 10:19 PM
you sure it doesnt have something to do with hdcp?

Who knows with hdmi. All I know is the tv is hdcp compliant so the players I have connected to it should work. You'd think Toshiba's new HD DVD player would work with it.

alchemist4
07-16-06, 12:25 AM
Hello,

Having a problem with my Toshiba 46HM95 and not sure if someone might be able to help. Got it in November of 2005 and been having issues since (bad lamp and most recently the whole light engine was replaced). Now, I have a new issue thats a little hard to describe, but I have a picture (see below). This "colored snow" seems to only happen when its trying to display some type of picture (anything from a tv signal to just the tv's menu). It is also the only thing I can get on the screen (no other picture, whatsoever) Any ideas, cause I'm pretty stumped. Thanks in advance for all the help!

LR6AGB001
07-16-06, 02:43 AM
probably low mode most the time. What all dd you get to calibrate your tv? I probably need to buy something to get it setup right

Well here were my settings and I should say that it varies from user to user. It all depends on how you light your room so here it is for HDMI low lamp. Temp - warm, contrast - 44, brightness - 66, color - 52, tint - 13 and sharpness - 0. Keep in mind what DVD player I'm using so you may have to adjust it slightly from the dvd settings that I listed previously. Now here is my Xbox 360 over component, I had high lamp mode during the past week and found these settings worked very well. Temp - warm, C - 49, B - 61, Clr - 48, T - 13, Sh - 43. The reason for which sharpness is needed over component, I'm sure members can clarify...in short it's not a pure digital signal. I wish I had a digital camera to at least show my display running, Call of Duty 2 on the 360 rocks! Also the HD trailers (Superman Returns) available via Xbox Live are quite exciting, it'll be interesting to see how blu-ray matches up against HD-DVD but come holiday season I think I'll have a HD-DVD player keeping my Toshiba DLP company. :D

nikonosis
07-16-06, 09:37 AM
Well here were my settings and I should say that it varies from user to user. It all depends on how you light your room so here it is for HDMI low lamp. Temp - warm, contrast - 44, brightness - 66, color - 52, tint - 13 and sharpness - 0. Keep in mind what DVD player I'm using so you may have to adjust it slightly from the dvd settings that I listed previously. Now here is my Xbox 360 over component, I had high lamp mode during the past week and found these settings worked very well. Temp - warm, C - 49, B - 61, Clr - 48, T - 13, Sh - 43. The reason for which sharpness is needed over component, I'm sure members can clarify...in short it's not a pure digital signal. I wish I had a digital camera to at least show my display running, Call of Duty 2 on the 360 rocks! Also the HD trailers (Superman Returns) available via Xbox Live are quite exciting, it'll be interesting to see how blu-ray matches up against HD-DVD but come holiday season I think I'll have a HD-DVD player keeping my Toshiba DLP company. :D


thanks for the settings, ill have to try them out when my new lamp gets here in 2 days

nikonosis
07-16-06, 09:40 AM
Hello,

Having a problem with my Toshiba 46HM95 and not sure if someone might be able to help. Got it in November of 2005 and been having issues since (bad lamp and most recently the whole light engine was replaced). Now, I have a new issue thats a little hard to describe, but I have a picture (see below). This "colored snow" seems to only happen when its trying to display some type of picture (anything from a tv signal to just the tv's menu). It is also the only thing I can get on the screen (no other picture, whatsoever) Any ideas, cause I'm pretty stumped. Thanks in advance for all the help!


it looks like to me that something is trying to make your tv display a higher refresh rate than it can take. its still under warranty, why not have toshiba replace it?

Don1959
07-16-06, 01:10 PM
Hello,

Having a problem with my Toshiba 46HM95 and not sure if someone might be able to help. Got it in November of 2005 and been having issues since (bad lamp and most recently the whole light engine was replaced). Now, I have a new issue thats a little hard to describe, but I have a picture (see below). This "colored snow" seems to only happen when its trying to display some type of picture (anything from a tv signal to just the tv's menu). It is also the only thing I can get on the screen (no other picture, whatsoever) Any ideas, cause I'm pretty stumped. Thanks in advance for all the help!

I had a similar problem with my "old" Samsung DLP..... it is hard to tell from the picture if it is the same, but it looks like you have a bad DMD chip...... I would contact Toshiba right away....... looks like you might need another light engine...... If this is the second light engine I would start pushing to get the set replaced......

Don

shiboy
07-16-06, 05:23 PM
Does the lamp from the 62MX195 work in the 62HM84 DLP Television. I have to order a new lamp, and the lamp in the mx is brighter. Also any places to purchase lamps other than toshiba?

toenail
07-16-06, 05:58 PM
Does the lamp from the 62MX195 work in the 62HM84 DLP Television. I have to order a new lamp, and the lamp in the mx is brighter. Also any places to purchase lamps other than toshiba?

No, the bulb won't work in your TV. Yes there are tons of places to get bulbs.

enmoco
07-16-06, 06:19 PM
http://www.hermanelectronics.com/ItemInfo.asp?Frecno=5134538 (http://)...............An authorized Toshiba parts depot -D95 Hi-Brite 150W lamp.... :)

enmoco
07-16-06, 06:32 PM
http://www.partstore.com/Landing/ProjectorLamps/ModelDetail.aspx?MfgId=117&ModelID=429698&close=0&exact=1.....Parts & Accessories for your Toshiba model 62HM84........ :)

shiboy
07-16-06, 06:44 PM
is there any way to get a brighter lamp for this tv?

mpalmieri1203
07-16-06, 06:56 PM
No but you know you can change for low to high setting right??

shiboy
07-16-06, 07:07 PM
does anyone know who makes (manufacturer) the lamp that is in the Toshiba 62MH84 DLP? Can you purchase just the bulb somewhere?

enmoco
07-16-06, 07:10 PM
is there any way to get a brighter lamp for this tv?No brighter lamp is available.If set on high the picture is dimmer than it has been,it may be going bad. This is the lamp YOU have (from Tosh website)......Radiance™ Lamp

Toshiba DLP™ Projection TVs utilize a 120-Watt DC lamp. In addition to exceptional light purity and reduced flicker, this lamp also has two user-friendly features. High Brightness and Low Power Modes allow the user to choose 120-Watt Mode for daytime with ambient room light, and 100-Watt Mode for nighttime in a dark room, to extend the lamp life. This lamp also has the unique Instant Restart feature, allowing the TV to be turned on immediately after shutdown, unlike other lamp-based TVs.

enmoco
07-16-06, 07:12 PM
does anyone know who makes (manufacturer) the lamp that is in the Toshiba 62MH84 DLP? Can you purchase just the bulb somewhere?
NO

jmillerfla
07-16-06, 07:24 PM
I purchased a Toshiba 62hm95 in January of this year and the bulb already burnt out and ruptured. My estimate is that it only had about 1000 hrs on it at most. Is this usaual? Good thing I purchased the extended warranty it has already just about paid for itself. At this rate I will need 8 bulbs before the warranty ends. Other than the bulb the tv I believe produces outstanding pictures and looks great in my living room.

Also, does anyone have recommended settings for color, brightness, contrast etc. Lastly, since I got the new bulb is there anyway for me to check how many hours I get on it also. Is there a reset button for the hours when you do get a new bulb put in or does the tv reset itself?

Thank you

magredc5
07-16-06, 11:38 PM
I purchased a Toshiba 62hm95 in January of this year and the bulb already burnt out and ruptured. My estimate is that it only had about 1000 hrs on it at most. Is this usaual? Good thing I purchased the extended warranty it has already just about paid for itself. At this rate I will need 8 bulbs before the warranty ends. Other than the bulb the tv I believe produces outstanding pictures and looks great in my living room.

Also, does anyone have recommended settings for color, brightness, contrast etc. Lastly, since I got the new bulb is there anyway for me to check how many hours I get on it also. Is there a reset button for the hours when you do get a new bulb put in or does the tv reset itself?

Thank you


Read the prior posts on lamp issues and check the Toshiba website on the product announcment they have on DLP bulbs. In short, Toshiba recognized that their bulbs were failing premature on certain models (including yours) due to manufacturing issues, have extended the original bulb warranty to 2 years from 1 (doesn't matter to you at this point) and are using a "new and improved" bulb at this point.

So, is this usual? No. Why are you referring to your extended warranty "paying for itself" on a 6 month old set with the defective bulb still under warranty? Hopefully the newer bulbs live up to their ~6000 to 8000 hour claim and you won't need to replace 8 bulbs in the life of the warranty.

No, there is no known way to reset lamp hours.

ragtop262
07-16-06, 11:41 PM
I purchased a Toshiba 62hm95 in January of this year and the bulb already burnt out and ruptured. My estimate is that it only had about 1000 hrs on it at most. Is this usaual? Good thing I purchased the extended warranty it has already just about paid for itself. At this rate I will need 8 bulbs before the warranty ends. Other than the bulb the tv I believe produces outstanding pictures and looks great in my living room.

Also, does anyone have recommended settings for color, brightness, contrast etc. Lastly, since I got the new bulb is there anyway for me to check how many hours I get on it also. Is there a reset button for the hours when you do get a new bulb put in or does the tv reset itself?

Thank you

OK - these are all items that have been covered many times in this thread, if you do a search you'll find much more info. But in a nutshell:

- Toshiba had a quality problem with a certain batch of lamps. The new ones produced after March 2006 will supposedly last longer.

- Its hard to get recommend specific settings because each set is a little different.

- There is a way to check hours:

With TV turned on:

1. Press "mute" on the remote - 1/2 mute appears on the screen
2. Press "mute" on the remote again - mute appears on the screen
3. Press "mute" on the remote and hold the mute button -
4. Press the "Menu" button on the TV's front panel. "S" will appear in the upper right corner of the screen.
5. Press the "Menu" button on the remote and the "S" will disappear. On the left side of the screen you will see "RCUT" followed by RCUT
ADDR DATA BINARY
224DH 00H 00000000B.
You are now in the service mode.
6. Press "9" on the remote and you will access the diagnostics page. In the right hand corner is the lamp time in hours.
7. Press "power" button on remote to exit the menu and power off the TV.

CAUTION: Do not use the up and down volume keys on the remote in this menu as it can alter the data and can be dangerous.


- The lamp hours do not reset when you replace the lamp, and cannot be reset manually. They just keep on counting.

rufus101
07-17-06, 12:26 AM
Does this service code work on the 42HM66? Not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but I can't seem to get it to mork on this model.

gkrykewy
07-17-06, 02:01 PM
I have a 46HM84 that was fortunately still within its warranty when my factory bulb blew at 11 months. I installed the replacement on Friday, and noticed while I had it opened up that there seemed to be some dust build-up on the blades of the cooling fan. I did my best to wipe it down, and ran a vacuum to try to pull any residual dust before installing the new lamp. Is the dust normal, and is there a better way to keep it as dust-free as possible? I'm thinking of re-opening it anyway to double check that I didn't get any fingerprints on the bulb lens - I was careful, but probably not as obsessive as I should have been given what I've read online since the replacement. Basically, I'm trying to do whatever I can to extend the life of the new bulb (including moving the TV further from the wall to enhance ventilation - previously it had been roughly 6-8 inches from the wall).

enmoco
07-17-06, 02:43 PM
I have a 46HM84 that was fortunately still within its warranty when my factory bulb blew at 11 months. I installed the replacement on Friday, and noticed while I had it opened up that there seemed to be some dust build-up on the blades of the cooling fan. I did my best to wipe it down, and ran a vacuum to try to pull any residual dust before installing the new lamp. Is the dust normal, and is there a better way to keep it as dust-free as possible? I'm thinking of re-opening it anyway to double check that I didn't get any fingerprints on the bulb lens - I was careful, but probably not as obsessive as I should have been given what I've read online since the replacement. Basically, I'm trying to do whatever I can to extend the life of the new bulb (including moving the TV further from the wall to enhance ventilation - previously it had been roughly 6-8 inches from the wall).Your previous 6"-8" clearance was more than enough. That much dust in the area you mention however,is a great deal more troubling. There are no filters to clean but you should run a vacumn cleaner brush attachment across the vent on the back left of the display at least once a week in your case. Is the unit in close proximity to an outside door, floor vent,wall vent, or windows? An inexpensive electric air filtration device (Hunter Hepetech is one)strategically placed would be an option. It is normal for some dust to accumulate over the years,but in your case I would reccomend an alternative plan of action to alleviate problems like dust giving you a great deal of grief down the road.

gkrykewy
07-17-06, 03:05 PM
Your previous 6"-8" clearance was more than enough. That much dust in the area you mention however,is a great deal more troubling. There are no filters to clean but you should run a vacumn cleaner brush attachment across the vent on the back left of the display at least once a week in your case. Is the unit in close proximity to an outside door, floor vent,wall vent, or windows? An inexpensive electric air filtration device (Hunter Hepetech is one)strategically placed would be an option. It is normal for some dust to accumulate over the years,but in your case I would reccomend an alternative plan of action to alleviate problems like dust giving you a great deal of grief down the road.

The TV is not in proximity to any of those things, and I already have a fairly heavy-duty air filter operating in the room. As I said, the TV is close to a wall, so it's difficult to place the air cleaner in a particularly effective area. However, before seeing the dust, I had never vacuumed the vent surface in 11+ months. But I was wondering how a notable quantity of dust could go 'up' through the vents and collect on the blades if the fan is running regularly (which would presumably blow the dust back out). I checked after the bulb replacement, and I do seem to get slight air flow out of the vents while the TV is on, so I guess the fan is operating okay.... Hopefully a strict weekly vacuuming will prevent future problems - thanks for the tip!

nikonosis
07-18-06, 11:14 AM
I just got my new lamp yesterday and i have a couple questions. Ever since putting in the new lamp it seems like the picture is kinda grainy. There also looks like there is some color banding on somethings. I hooked up my htpc and the background i have on the pc looks very smooth on my monitor but on the tv i can see the different color bands instead of it being smooth. Am i just seeing all this stuff because the old lamp had gotten so dim it was hiding all the artifacts or is there something wrong? Its a 52hm95. Maybe I just need to get an adjustment disc, cananyone recommend one?

theghost33
07-18-06, 01:21 PM
I can't seem to determine what the major difference is between the HM the HMX and MX. I read that the MX has a VGA Port which I am assuming most are using for Gaming or PC hook up. If I am not a Gammer and don't plan hooking up my PC is there any real benifit to getting the MX?

If the signal recieved from HD TV and from most DVR's and HD DVD's is not native 1080p what is the benefit of having 1080p over 1080I or 720P? Will it matter more in the future than it does now if the 1080p is more thoroghly adopted?

nikonosis
07-18-06, 01:25 PM
I can't seem to determine what the major difference is between the HM the HMX and MX. I read that the MX has a VGA Port which I am assuming most are using for Gaming or PC hook up. If I am not a Gammer and don't plan hooking up my PC is there any real benifit to getting the MX?

as far as i know toshiba claims its for hooking a pc up to, the vga port seems to be the only diff i know of.

theghost33
07-18-06, 01:31 PM
as far as i know toshiba claims its for hooking a pc up to, the vga port seems to be the only diff i know of.

Cool. Thanks.

I think I am going to go with the HM since the price difference (the HM195's are on sale in preparation for the arrival of the 2006's I guess) at a much lower, $1,000 less, cost than the MX.

Also, my viewing distance is going to be almost exactly 10 feet, is this too close for a 62inch or should I play it safe and get the 56inch?

Thanks for helping a novice newbie out :)

nikonosis
07-18-06, 01:42 PM
Cool. Thanks.

I think I am going to go with the HM since the price difference (the HM195's are on sale in preparation for the arrival of the 2006's I guess) at a much lower, $1,000 less, cost than the MX.

Also, my viewing distance is going to be almost exactly 10 feet, is this too close for a 62inch or should I play it safe and get the 56inch?

Thanks for helping a novice newbie out :)

I sit about 8 feet from my 52 and i think its a little close.

magredc5
07-18-06, 01:51 PM
MX also includes an ethernet port for home networking the TV to a PC for such purposes as accessing picture files, or even remote recording programming to the TV.

Other than that, the audio system may be a bit different, but minimal impact.

Don1959
07-18-06, 01:53 PM
For HD content 10 feet from a 61 inch should be fine..... but for SD you may find that you see too much of the defects present in most SD broadcasts.

I sit about 9 - 10 feet from my 56HM195 and it looks good...... big enough that you get that "I am there" feel from HD... but not too close to get a reasonable SD picture....

Then again... for some people .... bigger is better.......

Go to a show room and try viewing the different sets at your seating distance..... and if you can... view HD and SD content.....

Don

theghost33
07-18-06, 01:57 PM
For HD content 10 feet from a 61 inch should be fine..... but for SD you may find that you see too much of the defects present in most SD broadcasts.

I sit about 9 - 10 feet from my 56HM195 and it looks good...... big enough that you get that "I am there" feel from HD... but not too close to get a reasonable SD picture....

Then again... for some people .... bigger is better.......

Go to a show room and try viewing the different sets at your seating distance..... and if you can... view HD and SD content.....

Don

Great advice. Thanks so much.

Don1959
07-18-06, 02:05 PM
Great advice. Thanks so much.

You are welcome......

One thing you may want to think about...... If you do decide to go for the 62" you may want to wait a little while until the 196 models are out..... they seem to be much less expensive than the 195s...... you may be able to get the new model for about the same price as the on sale 195.......

There does not seem to be a 56" 196 model....... so.......

Don

toadman50
07-18-06, 02:12 PM
Well the signal board replacement did not fix my problem. Still get the green and pink screen colors and now I get an awful buzzing noise from the fans.
Sounds like it may be the Light Engine. Tech is scheduled for tomorrow.
If that doesn't do it I will fight for a return.

Mcoughlin,

I think you should fight for a return. I think you unit was made right after mine was. We both bought our units late summer 05, and both had very similar issues with bulbs, the unit shutting itself off and also having bad signal boards. Eventually mine was replaced when they could not find a new signal board for me but Toshiba would not of done it on their own. I was on the phone over 30 times calling and escalating the call.

That is all that I can say before someone who will remain nameless but chooses to voice his high opinion of Toshiba will start jumping all over me or copying/pasting my old posts to try to discredit me.

Snoopydoo
07-18-06, 02:55 PM
Hi,

I'm one of you guys now...

I purchased my brand new Toshiba 52HMX85 in January of this year. 3 months later, in April, had to replace the bulb (Toshiba recognized they had a problem with their bulbs and sent me a new one free-of-charge).

However, another 3 months have past now and I once again need to replace the bulb: that's 2 bulb failures in the first 6 months. I contacted Toshiba today and am waiting for their reply back.

I've asked them to either fix the set or replace it with a brand new one because I do not wish to have to pay for bulbs every 3 months after my warranty period is done when they are supposed to last about 6000 hours each.

What do you recommend I do at this point?

Thanks

Marc

theghost33
07-18-06, 03:11 PM
Hi,

I'm one of you guys now...

I purchased my brand new Toshiba 52HMX85 in January of this year. 3 months later, in April, had to replace the bulb (Toshiba recognized they had a problem with their bulbs and sent me a new one free-of-charge).

However, another 3 months have past now and I once again need to replace the bulb: that's 2 bulb failures in the first 6 months. I contacted Toshiba today and am waiting for their reply back.

I've asked them to either fix the set or replace it with a brand new one because I do not wish to have to pay for bulbs every 3 months after my warranty period is done when they are supposed to last about 6000 hours each.

What do you recommend I do at this point?

Thanks

Marc

I thought these bulb issues were a thing of the past. Supposedly Tosh had a bad batch of these bulbs and have extended the warranty on them to 2yrs but only on the first bulb and only for models that are listed on their website.

I assumed that a set purchased THIS YEAR would not be effected if they have already dealt with this problem. Very troubling!

DanzBorin
07-18-06, 03:13 PM
I thought these bulb issues were a thing of the past. Supposedly Tosh had a bad batch of these bulbs and have extended the warranty on them to 2yrs but only on the first bulb and only for models that are listed on their website.

I assumed that a set purchased THIS YEAR would not be effected if they have already dealt with this problem. Very troubling!
that's a 2004 model though... they haven't ever said anything about new bulbs for them...

theghost33
07-18-06, 03:22 PM
that's a 2004 model though... they haven't ever said anything about new bulbs for them...
Oh, I thought that it was a 2005 based on the model number 52HMX85. My Bad, I see now that the 2005 is model number 52hmx95.

Whew. I was about to leave for the day and go order my 56HM195 and got a bit nervous.

DanzBorin
07-18-06, 03:24 PM
Oh, I thought that it was a 2005 based on the model number 52HMX85. My Bad, I see now that the 2005 is model number 52hmx95.

Whew. I was about to leave for the day and go order my 56HM195 and got a bit nervous.
you were right... the 85 would be 2005, but I don't think that the 85s had the "problem" according to toshiba... I could be wrong there...

I was thinking 84... :(

enmoco
07-18-06, 06:10 PM
:) http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/tacpassets-images/notices/dlplamp.asp .........................ok,here's the deal.What you have for a lamp is a 120w hi-brite. lamp. Your set is most likely a Canadian set. It was never on any list for an acknowledged lamp problem. All the "bad" designed lamps effected were the 150w hi-brite Tosh lamps. The website included will show this set is not among the "acknowledged" sets. Not saying you don't have a problem with your lamp,just relating the facts abouts which lamp is which......good luck...

nikonosis
07-18-06, 06:13 PM
I just got my new lamp yesterday and i have a couple questions. Ever since putting in the new lamp it seems like the picture is kinda grainy. There also looks like there is some color banding on somethings. I hooked up my htpc and the background i have on the pc looks very smooth on my monitor but on the tv i can see the different color bands instead of it being smooth. Am i just seeing all this stuff because the old lamp had gotten so dim it was hiding all the artifacts or is there something wrong? Its a 52hm95. Maybe I just need to get an adjustment disc, cananyone recommend one?


anyone know whats with this?

DSKTexas
07-18-06, 07:13 PM
I was reading a review of the 62MX196 at DLPTVReviews and they give this TV a very good review.

"Toshiba is one of the few manufacturers to properly process an incoming 1080i HDTV signal in order to show all 1080 lines of resolution. The unit upconverts all signals to its native 1080p resolution. The 62MX196 did not "cheat" by processing just the odd or even incoming lines of resolution and assuming that the alternate line is the same color. This shortcut by some manufacturers causes what you will notice as flicker and in a television like the Toshiba you will see a smooth, non-flickering, gorgeous image with HD signal input."

Does anyone know if the 62HM196 and 62MX196 use the same processing on 1080i signal, i.e. properly process an incoming 1080i signal.

The HM196 is considerably less expensive and I don't need VGA or ethernet, but would like the TV to process a 1080i signal properly as I have Toshiba's HD DVD player.

vertigo101_14
07-18-06, 08:39 PM
I was reading a review of the 62MX196 at DLPTVReviews and they give this TV a very good review.

"Toshiba is one of the few manufacturers to properly process an incoming 1080i HDTV signal in order to show all 1080 lines of resolution. The unit upconverts all signals to its native 1080p resolution. The 62MX196 did not "cheat" by processing just the odd or even incoming lines of resolution and assuming that the alternate line is the same color. This shortcut by some manufacturers causes what you will notice as flicker and in a television like the Toshiba you will see a smooth, non-flickering, gorgeous image with HD signal input."

Does anyone know if the 62HM196 and 62MX196 use the same processing on 1080i signal, i.e. properly process an incoming 1080i signal.

The HM196 is considerably less expensive and I don't need VGA or ethernet, but would like the TV to process a 1080i signal properly as I have Toshiba's HD DVD player.
The guts of the sets should be exactly the same. The MX line has always added a few features, but otherwise been the same.

CrashMaster
07-18-06, 09:35 PM
Got my bulb today (tuesday), called friday eve, so not bad at all the Mfg date of the bulb is 5/16/06. After I put it in I checked the hours on the tv 458/445 bulb.

So I hope this one lasts closer to the est. life of a bulb cus the 1st one did not even come close.

But Toshiba support was ok with the handling of this (other than the fact they said the phone support was from 8am to 7pm CST and I called one day 10 till 7 CDT and no one answered....)

Andy

enmoco
07-18-06, 11:23 PM
I was reading a review of the 62MX196 at DLPTVReviews and they give this TV a very good review.

"Toshiba is one of the few manufacturers to properly process an incoming 1080i HDTV signal in order to show all 1080 lines of resolution. The unit upconverts all signals to its native 1080p resolution. The 62MX196 did not "cheat" by processing just the odd or even incoming lines of resolution and assuming that the alternate line is the same color. This shortcut by some manufacturers causes what you will notice as flicker and in a television like the Toshiba you will see a smooth, non-flickering, gorgeous image with HD signal input."

Does anyone know if the 62HM196 and 62MX196 use the same processing on 1080i signal, i.e. properly process an incoming 1080i signal.

The HM196 is considerably less expensive and I don't need VGA or ethernet, but would like the TV to process a 1080i signal properly as I have Toshiba's HD DVD player.Can't swear to it but I can't imagine processing being different.I can tell you I like the image and sound I get from my Tosh setup.My wife really loves it. She's the movie nut........Good luck..... :)

nikonosis
07-19-06, 12:37 AM
Does anyone know what the latest firmware for a 52hm95 is?

piturra
07-19-06, 02:01 AM
Can't swear to it but I can't imagine processing being different.I can tell you I like the image and sound I get from my Tosh setup.My wife really loves it. She's the movie nut........Good luck..... :)

I agree w/enmoco, just check out my digital pics (see my signature below**).

**NOTE: The digital camera does not do justice with what we really see!!!

FYI: Read about the 62HM195 @ Home Theater Magazine 1080p shootout. (http://hometheatermag.com/rearprojectiontvs/206faceoff/index5.html)

Both HT Mag and Sound & Vision confirmed in their benchmarks that the 56HM195 (S&V) and 62HM195 (HT Mag) resolved the 1080i = 1080p resolution! :D

Here's a list from HT Mag that did (28) passed and failed (26) the 1080i resolution tests. (http://community.webshots.com/photo/547283085/2842656770032577752nqbwoL)



Phil

Snoopydoo
07-19-06, 08:36 AM
Hi,

Thanks to all who replied. I need to put in a few clarifications to my previous post.

Yes, my model is a 2005 model (manufactured in December 2005). It's the 52HMX85 and it is the Canadian model.

I've checked on the Toshiba Canadian web site and yes, my set would apply for the 2 year warranty. However, they do specify in there that for the originally-installed bulb, which wouldn't make any sense to me.

I've asked them to either fix my set or replace with a brand new one. Still haven't got any feedback from them yet.

You would imagine that if it did the same thing on the 2nd lamp, 3 months after it's in, they would replace it as well or check the TV, wouldn't you think so???

Thanks

enmoco
07-19-06, 09:24 AM
Hi,

Thanks to all who replied. I need to put in a few clarifications to my previous post.

Yes, my model is a 2005 model (manufactured in December 2005). It's the 52HMX85 and it is the Canadian model.

I've checked on the Toshiba Canadian web site and yes, my set would apply for the 2 year warranty. However, they do specify in there that for the originally-installed bulb, which wouldn't make any sense to me.

I've asked them to either fix my set or replace with a brand new one. Still haven't got any feedback from them yet.

You would imagine that if it did the same thing on the 2nd lamp, 3 months after it's in, they would replace it as well or check the TV, wouldn't you think so???

Thanks"Checking" the display is up yo you. Call an authorized Tosh repair outlet in your area and explain the situation.ALL repairs AND LAMPS for the one year warranty are covered. The reason for the one year extension on the original lamp was to give all a reasonable chance to get their"new" lamp replaced. Your's has been once already.You could have a bad ballast causing the problem. Many other things really. Nobody can assess the problem over the phone.......Good luck..... :)

magredc5
07-19-06, 10:20 AM
Does anyone know what the latest firmware for a 52hm95 is?

1.3.2

Amazingly Smooth
07-19-06, 10:31 AM
But Toshiba support was ok with the handling of this (other than the fact they said the phone support was from 8am to 7pm CST and I called one day 10 till 7 CDT and no one answered....)

Andy

I experienced the exact same thing.

Traveler62
07-19-06, 11:01 AM
I noticed that the Avia calibrates much better with this off. Does anyone else have recommendations for this? Which sources would you use or not use this function with?

nikonosis
07-19-06, 11:54 AM
1.3.2

i only have 1.2.4, should i get new firmware? I have a tech coming out to look at this grainy picture problem because it is driving me nuts, will they be able to install the new firmware?

piturra
07-19-06, 12:17 PM
I noticed that the Avia calibrates much better with this off. Does anyone else have recommendations for this? Which sources would you use or not use this function with?

You're correct, the Dynamic Contrast completely changes the correct setting that you have obtained using AVIA or any other Video Calibration DVDs.

So, I just leave Dynamic Contrasts = OFF for ALL Input Sources.

I have AVIA but specifically use Digital Video Essentials since it was designed for the digital HDTVs.

Now, I find that if I leave the MPEG Noise Reduction = Medium, the SD digital broadcast in general looks better. With HiDef TV, I any didn't see any differences during the broadcasts with the MPEG NR on or off and in all cases, the broadcast(s) looks glorious!!! :D If there is any PQ problems, its usually the Comcast Cable or OTA signal strength or fluctuation that caused any pixelations or breakups during the show.

Phil

magredc5
07-19-06, 04:46 PM
i only have 1.2.4, should i get new firmware? I have a tech coming out to look at this grainy picture problem because it is driving me nuts, will they be able to install the new firmware?


Updates after 1.2.4 were mainly to address CableCard and TVGOS issues. The Tech won't likely have the new S/W. But you can call Toshiba and have them ship you the new S/W directly.

As for your problem, it's hard to tell from your explanation what the problem is and how it could have occurred only by a lamp change. Did you perform a full factory reset? Are these issues only on SD content? HD?

Check your MPEG Noise Reduction Setting (Advanced Video Setting) - set it to HIGH. Also if you're coming in on Cable, set your CableClear DNR setting to High. Also set your Sharpness to 0 (it will minimize artifacts).

Try those and see if there's any improvement.

nikonosis
07-19-06, 05:02 PM
Updates after 1.2.4 were mainly to address CableCard and TVGOS issues. The Tech won't likely have the new S/W. But you can call Toshiba and have them ship you the new S/W directly.

As for your problem, it's hard to tell from your explanation what the problem is and how it could have occurred only by a lamp change. Did you perform a full factory reset? Are these issues only on SD content? HD?

Check your MPEG Noise Reduction Setting (Advanced Video Setting) - set it to HIGH. Also if you're coming in on Cable, set your CableClear DNR setting to High. Also set your Sharpness to 0 (it will minimize artifacts).

Try those and see if there's any improvement.

Its grainy looking on dvds, sd cable, analog cable, and hd cable. There is also a ton of color banding and clay face, especially on sd cable. I have sharpness at 20 and mpeg and dnr at high. I did a factory reset. I took the lamp out and put it back in earlier and while doing this i noticed some glass inside where the lamp goes, it was very fine almost like a powder. The color banding looks way worse than it ever has and there is just a lot of noise, its like watching a 1960s movie on INHD. I also unplugged the HDMI and plugged everything in through component, didn't make a difference. Everything is less noticable on HD channels but it is still there. This morning I had sunrise earth on discovery theater and it looked horrible.

nikonosis
07-20-06, 12:43 AM
anyone else with a 52HM95 have alot of color banding?

ranster
07-20-06, 06:33 AM
anyone else with a 52HM95 have alot of color banding?

Not so far. Although, after my lamp change about 2 weeks ago, the set acted funny for about 20 minutes. There were fine horizontal and vertical lines of different color on the screen. I was sure that I had to call Toshiba. I unplugged it and left it for dead. My daughter turned it on the next day and it was fine. I'm sure it will happen again, but when?

nikonosis
07-20-06, 08:51 AM
ive been having severe color banding since my lamp change, im having a tech come out monday.

mcoughlin
07-20-06, 09:06 AM
Hey Toadman,

Thanks for the input...I am gonna give them a chance to replace the Light Engine. If that doesn't work I will feel better knowing I gave Toshiba every chance to repair a set that obviously cannot be repaired and I will fight for a return to BestBuy.

At that point I say goodbye to DLP and move on to Plasma!

Its too bad cus I think the TV is great otherwise... the picture is awesome when it works!

DanzBorin
07-20-06, 09:10 AM
Hey Toadman,

Thanks for the input...I am gonna give them a chance to replace the Light Engine. If that doesn't work I will feel better knowing I gave Toshiba every chance to repair a set that obviously cannot be repaired and I will fight for a return to BestBuy.

At that point I say goodbye to DLP and move on to Plasma!

Its too bad cus I think the TV is great otherwise... the picture is awesome when it works!
wait until you have a problem w/ your plasma... you then get to throw it in the trash... ;)

mcoughlin
07-20-06, 09:23 AM
Well after calling Toshiba every month since Jan 06 for problems I am sure you can see why I feel like moving to other technology.

I am on my 3rd lamp, a signal board and now working to replace the Light Engine.

Enough is enough.....Tell me whats better buying a DLP that can be repaired...but has problems every month of ownership or buying a plasma that slowly degrades in quality over its 10 to 15 year life?

Isn't technology grand? Sorry guys not looking to debate DLP vs. Plasma there are other threads for that.I chose the Toshiba DLP cus I thought it was the best DLP on the market.
I just dont think they are ready for market given the problems I am having.

DanzBorin
07-20-06, 09:26 AM
Well after calling Toshiba every month since Jan 06 for problems I am sure you can see why I feel like moving to other technology.

I am on my 3rd lamp, a signal board and now working to replace the Light Engine.

Enough is enough.....Tell me whats better buying a DLP that can be repaired...but has problems every month of ownership or buying a plasma that slowly degrades in quality over its 10 to 15 year life?

Isn't technology grand? Sorry guys not looking to debate DLP vs. Plasma there are other threads for that.I chose the Toshiba DLP cus I thought it was the best DLP on the market.
I just dont think they are ready for market given the problems I am having.
You probably just got a lemon... happens to a percentage of everything made... have you thought about LCD projection? I also like the look of these sets... the picture is a bit darker, but not much... I really don't like plasma due to the burn in factor... :(

mcoughlin
07-20-06, 09:39 AM
I hear ya! I had a Sony LCD KLW-9000 it was a $20,000 50" widescreen built in the late 90's for Corporate Conference Rooms that i got for nothin! It was replaced by Sony's Wega systems. I am really hoping that Toshiba steps up and fixes my Tv for good. I was a research nut before I bought it and I really dont want to lose sleep researching the next great TV to replace it. You know what I mean.

My only problem with LCD projection was the black level. The toshiba DLP doesn't look washed out as the LCD's I saw.

DanzBorin
07-20-06, 09:50 AM
My only problem with LCD projection was the black level. The toshiba DLP doesn't look washed out as the LCD's I saw.
yeah, but I think if you don't go DLP, rear LCD is the next best thing... plasma looks good, but costs too much, and burns in... :(

I don't think standard LCDs look very good...

hence I have a dlp... lol

mcoughlin
07-20-06, 09:57 AM
Well let's hope this one gets fixed! I am sour on Toshiba right now. I will post what happens when I hear back from the service call.

theghost33
07-20-06, 02:30 PM
Just bought a 56HM195 and it will be arriving this weekend! Can't wait.

I just got through reading the primer on DVD (progressives and Up-converters) and found it to be really informative. However, I am left with a few questions. First, i want to say that I am NOT planning to buy an HD DVD or Blue-Ray at this time. I don't want to get stuck with a Betamax if you know what I mean. I can wait a while and see how that all shakes out.

However, I would like to get the most out of standard DVD's and have been looking at both Progressive and Up-converting Dvd players. All of the up-converting DVD players I have seen (just got back from my Local Best Buy) up-converted to 720p or 1080i. Since my new TV is 1080p is it worth buying an Up-converting DVD player if the signal is simply going to have to be scaled to 1080p? Or does my Tv accept the signal as 720p or 1080i and display it as such.

Also do you suggest getting an up-converting DVD player? Progressive? If you are currently using either, what make and model? Are you happy with it?

DanzBorin
07-20-06, 02:42 PM
to be honest the hd dvd player is the best upconvert from what I've read... I have a sony upconvert and love it, but if I had waited I could have a tank of a hd dvd player that upconverts and also playes hd dvds...

and an upconvert player will work just fine on a 1080p tv... your TV can accept all signals... 480i-1080p... ;)

I have an older tosh and it's native is 720p, but I run my upconvert at 1080i and let the TV work it's magic... it looks a hair better than straight 720p...

ohernan
07-20-06, 02:46 PM
Just bought a 56HM195 and it will be arriving this weekend! Can't wait.

I just got through reading the primer on DVD (progressives and Up-converters) and found it to be really informative. However, I am left with a few questions. First, i want to say that I am NOT planning to buy an HD DVD or Blue-Ray at this time. I don't want to get stuck with a Betamax if you know what I mean. I can wait a while and see how that all shakes out.

However, I would like to get the most out of standard DVD's and have been looking at both Progressive and Up-converting Dvd players. All of the up-converting DVD players I have seen (just got back from my Local Best Buy) up-converted to 720p or 1080i. Since my new TV is 1080p is it worth buying an Up-converting DVD player if the signal is simply going to have to be scaled to 1080p? Or does my Tv accept the signal as 720p or 1080i and display it as such.

Also do you suggest getting an up-converting DVD player? Progressive? If you are currently using either, what make and model? Are you happy with it?

BUY AN UPCONVERTING PLAYER NOW! YOU WON'T REGRET IT! :)

When I got my DLP, I had a regular Toshiba prog. scan DVD player hooked up, and was a little distracted by how "blown up" the picture looked. Large macro-blocking, dull looking picture (relative to HD). I bought Sony's 5 disc HDMI upconverting player, and the PQ from this is definitively noticeable. The PQ greatly depends on the DVD itself, and if it's a high bitrate disc, it truly is "near HD" quality. The best movies I've seen w/ this player so far on my set is the Star Wars boxset and the 2 disc ed. of Peter Jackson's King Kong.

theghost33
07-20-06, 03:02 PM
to be honest the hd dvd player is the best upconvert from what I've read... I have a sony upconvert and love it, but if I had waited I could have a tank of a hd dvd player that upconverts and also playes hd dvds...

and an upconvert player will work just fine on a 1080p tv... your TV can accept all signals... 480i-1080p... ;)

I have an older tosh and it's native is 720p, but I run my upconvert at 1080i and let the TV work it's magic... it looks a hair better than straight 720p...

I just am a little put off by the multiple formats (HD and Blue-ray) and lack of content in HD DVD at this time. I mean I might change my mind in 6-8 months when the format plays out a bit more.

So what you are saying is that my TV is not going to try to convert the signal it will just play it as it gets it? So if it is 720p at the source that is what the TV will display? I was under the impression that the TV would try and upconvert the signal from 720p or 1080i to 1080p. Am I wrong?

The upconverter I looked at was a Samsung DVD-V9650. I also saw the Sony % disk changer version there as well.

DanzBorin
07-20-06, 03:09 PM
I just am a little put off by the multiple formats (HD and Blue-ray) and lack of content in HD DVD at this time. I mean I might change my mind in 6-8 months when the format plays out a bit more.

So what you are saying is that my TV is not going to try to convert the signal it will just play it as it gets it? So if it is 720p at the source that is what the TV will display? I was under the impression that the TV would try and upconvert the signal from 720p or 1080i to 1080p. Am I wrong?

The upconverter I looked at was a Samsung DVD-V9650. I also saw the Sony % disk changer version there as well.
no, your TV will convert it to it's native resolution... but it'd do that with any other signal it receives... it will still look good...

for SD upconvert players I looked at them all and found the sony looked the best... I have the (whatever model has 70 in it), and love it... they have replaced that model with the 75... i haven't seen how this looks, but i assume it's the same chip used to upconvert...

i went with sony because it didn't have the farouja chip...

traker1001
07-20-06, 06:38 PM
Personally I would get a descent progressive dvd player and not worry about one that upscales, The reason being is, I personally like the tv's scaler better than the ones provided by any dvd player I have seen. However if you thinkyou really need one, See if you can find pany S97s, There rare but , If you can find one they are rated amongst the best low end dvd players.

See:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=501352&highlight=Panasonic+S97
and
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4569192#post4569192

nikonosis
07-20-06, 07:57 PM
Personally I would get a descent progressive dvd player and not worry about one that upscales, The reason being is, I personally like the tv's scaler better than the ones provided by any dvd player I have seen. However if you thinkyou really need one, See if you can find pany S97s, There rare but , If you can find one they are rated amongst the best low end dvd players.

See:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=501352&highlight=Panasonic+S97
and
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4569192#post4569192

this is about the best review you can find of it
pany s97 (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=122#PanasonicDVD-S97%20(HDMI))

enmoco
07-20-06, 09:19 PM
I just am a little put off by the multiple formats (HD and Blue-ray) and lack of content in HD DVD at this time. I mean I might change my mind in 6-8 months when the format plays out a bit more.

So what you are saying is that my TV is not going to try to convert the signal it will just play it as it gets it? So if it is 720p at the source that is what the TV will display? I was under the impression that the TV would try and upconvert the signal from 720p or 1080i to 1080p. Am I wrong? NO,it will display all signal at it's native resolution......1080p
The upconverter I looked at was a Samsung DVD-V9650. I also saw the Sony % disk changer version there as well.I still have the Tosh SD5980 prog. scan player,it works great with your display................... :)reviews and prices (http://)

ranster
07-20-06, 11:15 PM
Personally I would get a descent progressive dvd player and not worry about one that upscales, The reason being is, I personally like the tv's scaler better than the ones provided by any dvd player I have seen. However if you thinkyou really need one, See if you can find pany S97s, There rare but , If you can find one they are rated amongst the best low end dvd players.

See:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=501352&highlight=Panasonic+S97
and
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4569192#post4569192

I have not tried the above players, but can highly recommend the Oppo 971. It is a DVI player, and with the adapter to HDMI, the picture is outstanding. If you check the DVD player forum, you can see this one is highly recommended.

traker1001
07-21-06, 01:03 AM
I have not tried the above players, but can highly recommend the Oppo 971. It is a DVI player, and with the adapter to HDMI, the picture is outstanding. If you check the DVD player forum, you can see this one is highly recommended.

Like I said, Toshibas scaler is one of the better ones I have seen, In a head to head comparison my S97 vs The Scaler built into the TV, I think the toshiba scaler is better, I like the s97 because of the ease of one hdmi cable and no others to play with. Oppo 971 is a very good dvd player, But I like the panny s97 better just because if you can find it they tend to cost a little less. Of cours then again my tv is only 720p.

toenail
07-21-06, 07:23 AM
I think the PQ varies enough from player to player that it's hard to conclude for or against upscaling in general. I'll add that my Sony NS-70 @1080i via HDMI is miles better than my previous 480p progressive unit via component, or letting the TV do all the work. YMMV.

piturra
07-21-06, 09:26 AM
I think the PQ varies enough from player to player that it's hard to conclude for or against upscaling in general. I'll add that my Sony NS-70 @1080i via HDMI is miles better than my previous 480p progressive unit via component, or letting the TV do all the work. YMMV.
Toenail is right, check out my digital pic's (link in my signature) - Panasonic DVD-S77s HDMI ($9 HDMI gold end cable from eBay - replaces the defective Panasonic HDMI cable) upconverted to 1080i > Toshiba 56HM195.

NOTE: The digital pic's don't show all the subtle video calibrated glorious detailed image(s) vs. in person.

Phil

theghost33
07-21-06, 09:28 AM
Geez, I might just wait to till the HD wars are over and buy the winner. I can't see spending upwards of $250 for a unit I will end up replacing with whatever HD unit comes out on top.

I did see a Sony Upconverting 5 disk unit at Best buy (don't remember the model number) for $150 that I think I may pick up to tide me over. I really can't see paying more than that at this time when we are on the cusp of something bigger. I can justify the expense, mostly to my wife ;), but I can't even justify $250 for the best rated unit. I saw Blue Ray running on a 1080p DLP unit at Circuit city and fell in love. Now if they can just get the format settled and start producing content I will be willing to pony up the grand for the unit. Or $500 for the HD unit, whichever.

I am fast finding that it is both a good and a bad time to get into HD!!!!

theghost33
07-21-06, 09:39 AM
Toenail is right, check out my digital pic's (link in my signature) - Panasonic DVD-S77s HDMI ($9 HDMI gold end cable from eBay - replaces the defective Panasonic HDMI cable) upconverted to 1080i > Toshiba 56HM195.

NOTE: The digital pic's don't show all the subtle video calibrated glorious detailed image(s) vs. in person.

Phil

Wow!!!! Very nice pics. I just bought the Same Tosh 56hm195 (got a killer deal on it). The fact that I am in awe of the PICTURES of your Display has me frothing at the mouth to get my TV. The price is right on the Panny s77s as well. I saw a couple of sites offering it for about $150. I am going to give it carefull consideration.

DanzBorin
07-21-06, 09:46 AM
I saw Blue Ray running on a 1080p DLP unit at Circuit city and fell in love. Now if they can just get the format settled and start producing content I will be willing to pony up the grand for the unit. Or $500 for the HD unit, whichever.

I am fast finding that it is both a good and a bad time to get into HD!!!!
how did you fall in love???... after repeated viewings of blu-ray, you realize that HD DVD is winning the war big time... :confused:

theghost33
07-21-06, 10:14 AM
how did you fall in love???... after repeated viewings of blu-ray, you realize that HD DVD is winning the war big time... :confused:

When I saw It I was very impressed. Mind you, I have not had the pleasure of compairing it to HD DVD (I have not seen this demo'd anywhere).

I take it you are not a fan of Blue Ray then. Do you have HD DVD?

nikonosis
07-21-06, 10:52 AM
how did you fall in love???... after repeated viewings of blu-ray, you realize that HD DVD is winning the war big time... :confused:

i guess your one of those people that thinks bluray is never going to have the same or better picture quality and everyone should just buy hddvd now.

I would wait until this fall before i made any judgements. There are alot of people that own A1's and still think bluray is ultimately going to be the winner in the end. Its hard to judge either format on 1 player for each side, why not wait till there are more? I know i have a samsung dvd player and its a piece of crap compared to my xp50, couldnt the same be said for bluray or hddvd? Just wait, its the smartest thing to do. Read this about the bluray samsung player.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/samsung-bdp1000-bluray-firstgen-players-have-errors-wont-be-updated-until-september-188847.php

Isnt this hm hmx discussion anyways, shouldnt this talk be done in a dvd forum?

piturra
07-21-06, 12:35 PM
Wow!!!! Very nice pics. I just bought the Same Tosh 56hm195 (got a killer deal on it). The fact that I am in awe of the PICTURES of your Display has me frothing at the mouth to get my TV. The price is right on the Panny s77s as well. I saw a couple of sites offering it for about $150. I am going to give it carefull consideration.

Thanks theghost33!!! :) I bought my 56HM195 last Feb. 1st (received - yep, just in time for the Super Bowl :D ) via Amazon ($2,499 +SH best price on the internet @ the time) and except for 1 bulb failure (no down time since I had an eBay back-up Lamp / as far as the failed Lamp - Toshiba is no longer using that particular Japanese lamp vendor), ... the set has performed exceptionally well and I presently feel after 5-months of use, ... this investment was well spent.

FYI: I posted my subjective review @ Epinions (http://www1.epinions.com/content_225550110340). And I have approx., the same subjective review, on-going @ HT SPot (http://www.***************.com/htsthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/781539/an/0/page/0#Post781539), ... though w/more detailed life-cycle experiences & answers to a few members questions.

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As far as HD DVD or Blue-Ray, since my newer DVDs (digital / HD image transferred sources) looks near HiDef from my Panasonic DVD-S77s - HDMI, ... w/over 480 DVDs in my present library, ... I can easily wait for the HD DVDs library to grow and let the format wars settle down.

IMHO though, based on costs vs. performance, the HD DVD format is ahead at this point.

Phil

Tonight Friday NITE DVD is "Secondhand Lions" (http://www.dvdspot.com/movienight.php?member=piturra
) w/friends that missed this funny adventure family movie. This is one of those DVDs that has excellent near HiDef PQ. ;)

Hunter Green
07-21-06, 01:12 PM
My two HDMI ports on my 62HM15A are both taken up. I'd like to hook a computer (with an NVidia GeForce video card) to the TV, but it's not urgent, not worth swapping cables about or doing an HDMI switch. I don't have to have perfect 1:1, either; this isn't going to be a way to watch movies or anything in HD resolution, but more for utility purposes.

I purchased a DVI-to-component cable from MonoPrice and hooked it to the second DVI output on the card and to the TV's component input (I had one free). Set it up as a second monitor, fiddled around with settings, but no matter what I did, I never got even the start of an image appearing. Can't help wondering if the NVidia just isn't even using the analog outputs that this cable is using, even though it's set as an analog display.

I am able to display from S-Video on a computer (my laptop, not the one with the NVidia) into the computer, but was hoping for better than that, though maybe not 1:1.

I've read some of the earlier posts on this in the first dozen or so pages, but I couldn't find any post that summarizes how to do this, just this ongoing story of its discovery which is very hard going. Can anyone point me to a resource that would help?

bruin95
07-22-06, 03:30 AM
I purchased a DVI-to-component cable from MonoPrice and hooked it to the second DVI output on the card and to the TV's component input (I had one free). Set it up as a second monitor, fiddled around with settings, but no matter what I did, I never got even the start of an image appearing. Can't help wondering if the NVidia just isn't even using the analog outputs that this cable is using, even though it's set as an analog display.



Just wondering what were the settings that you are "fiddling" with? You will not get any image on your TV unless you have the video card set to output to your TV. Did you set this up in your display properties? You also have to make sure that the current resolution and refresh rate are compatable with what your TV can display. Outputting the wrong resolutions and refresh rates could lead to all kinds of problems. Most people who hook their computers up to their TV use a program called "Powerstrip" to help them with just that.

Another problem could be with the cable itself. You might be better off going with a VGA to Component breakout cable from your video card to your computer. Maybe someone with more experience at this sort of thing will chime in with some help.

nikonosis
07-22-06, 09:44 AM
you cant do dvi to component because dvi is an hdcp digital signal and component is an analog signal. You either need dvi to dvi, dvi to hdmi, or vga to component.

preludejtstyle
07-22-06, 10:00 AM
I purchased a DVI-to-component cable from MonoPrice and hooked it to the second DVI output on the card and to the TV's component input (I had one free). Set it up as a second monitor, fiddled around with settings, but no matter what I did, I never got even the start of an image appearing. Can't help wondering if the NVidia just isn't even using the analog outputs that this cable is using, even though it's set as an analog display. Can anyone point me to a resource that would help?

got this from monoprice's website:
(*)The Cable Not Support your Computer Monitor Video Port, or Y , Cr, Cb Video. Your Video Source Must Provide a YpbPr Component Video Signal form the DVI-I Video Ports to Use Cable

meaning it wont work?

preludejtstyle
07-22-06, 10:06 AM
^I guess what thats saying is, you need ot send a component output through the DVI cable from your computer. The video card needs to think it has component hooked up to iy, not DVI-I...make sense?

Hunter Green
07-22-06, 11:09 AM
Let me start over.

The DVI format includes provisions for having, or not having, analog output pins. My laptop, for instance, doesn't have them; it has a DVI-D (digital-only output) connector (so this cable won't go onto it). However, this video card has the DVI-I (digital and analog output) connector on it. DVI does contain the ability to drive a component output, that's specifically why it has analog pins in DVI-I (and the analog-only DVI-A) connector configurations. (Check Wikipedia if you don't believe me.)

It seems a reasonable assumption that if the manufacturer put those pins in, they did it on purpose, and therefore there's a way to get them to carry signal. I suppose it's possible that they put the pins in but didn't provide any means of producing output onto them, just to waste money and confuse users; stupider things have been done before. But I'm going to assume otherwise until I get some solid information to the contrary.

So, yes, again, the question is, how to configure the card to activate those outputs. I thought configuring that port to be an analog device might be enough, but apparently not. There's no point, however, in speculating about how to configure the details of what that output is (resolution, etc.) until we can get to the point where there is some output to configure.

Anyone actually done this?

As to specifics: I did most of my testing with the computer set to dual-monitor mode with the TV as the second monitor ("extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor"), though I also tried the two-monitor span option built into NVidia's software with no better results (and quite a lot of difficulty with windows opening where I couldn't see or get to them, until I switched that back off).

Leaving the primary monitor alone, I tried various resolutions and other settings for the second monitor. I also went through the NVidia options for "detect display devices" and checked the "My TV display is not being detected" option. Throughout, the TV reported receiving no signal.

DanzBorin
07-22-06, 01:55 PM
When I saw It I was very impressed. Mind you, I have not had the pleasure of compairing it to HD DVD (I have not seen this demo'd anywhere).

I take it you are not a fan of Blue Ray then. Do you have HD DVD?
not yet... but if I were to buy one of the new dvd formats now, it'd be hd dvd hands down...

there are only a couple of blue ray titles that look good, while most look on par or worse than SD dvds...

if you think newer dvds look good and that blu-ray looks good, hd dvd will blow you away!

I think br may win the war, but I think both formats will hang around and the hd dvd library will remain to grow... but even if it does lose, you have one of the best upconverting dvd players you can buy and you can get whatever movies you want that come out in the format... I'm kinda stoked to see the hd dvd versions of the LOTR trilogy... :D

chipster
07-22-06, 02:39 PM
Been watching the price plummet on these at my Fry's in Chicago area. Ready to buy a few weeks ago at $1799 - but they were out. Then they got some more in this week - priced at $1499!. Who couldn't resist.

Been watching this thread before the purchase - so I'm mentally prepared for bulb issues.

Indeed, musta been old stock at Fry's - since my SN came up for 2-year bulb warranty. My software version is 1.2.4.

Can anyone help with the following:

1) Found a PDF of a letter where Toshiba is pro-actively shipping lamp spares - in advance - to those with "suspect" lamps. Was ready to purchase a spare - to maintain zero down time - until I saw this. If correct, how do I get in on that policy?

2) Talk of firmware upgrades and CableCard. I don't plan on using CableCard. Is there any other compelling reason to social engineer my way into a firmware upgrade from Toshiba? Any other feature improvements/fixes unrelated to CableCard?

I'd imagine this has been answered somewhere in this 206-page thread - but there's no way to search a single thread (only can search the entire RPU sub-forum). I apologize in advance if these are redundant questions.

Thanks,
Chipster

piturra
07-22-06, 02:51 PM
Let me start over.

The DVI format includes provisions for having, or not having, analog output pins. My laptop, for instance, doesn't have them; it has a DVI-D (digital-only output) connector (so this cable won't go onto it). However, this video card has the DVI-I (digital and analog output) connector on it. DVI does contain the ability to drive a component output, that's specifically why it has analog pins in DVI-I (and the analog-only DVI-A) connector configurations. (Check Wikipedia if you don't believe me.)

It seems a reasonable assumption that if the manufacturer put those pins in, they did it on purpose, and therefore there's a way to get them to carry signal. I suppose it's possible that they put the pins in but didn't provide any means of producing output onto them, just to waste money and confuse users; stupider things have been done before. But I'm going to assume otherwise until I get some solid information to the contrary.

So, yes, again, the question is, how to configure the card to activate those outputs. I thought configuring that port to be an analog device might be enough, but apparently not. There's no point, however, in speculating about how to configure the details of what that output is (resolution, etc.) until we can get to the point where there is some output to configure.

Anyone actually done this?

As to specifics: I did most of my testing with the computer set to dual-monitor mode with the TV as the second monitor ("extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor"), though I also tried the two-monitor span option built into NVidia's software with no better results (and quite a lot of difficulty with windows opening where I couldn't see or get to them, until I switched that back off).

Leaving the primary monitor alone, I tried various resolutions and other settings for the second monitor. I also went through the NVidia options for "detect display devices" and checked the "My TV display is not being detected" option. Throughout, the TV reported receiving no signal.

Hunter Green, ... just wondering , have you completely reviewed your 62HM15A Owner's Manual about connecting a PC?

I couldn't find it online, but on page 15 (Connecting an HDMI™ or a DVI device to the HDMI input) in the 62HM14E Owners Manual (http://tacpservice.toshiba.com/ConsumerProductSupport/Manuals/TV/2000tvct.asp) (the model preceding yours, ... it reads the same as My 1080p 56HM195 Owner's Manual (same for the 62HM195), where on page 11, ... it specifically states on top ...

Overview of cable types

(in a box outline) NOTE: NEVER CONNECT THIS TV TO A PERSONAL COMPUTER (PC). THIS TV IS NOT INTENDED FOR USE WITH A PC.

Phil

magredc5
07-22-06, 04:21 PM
Been watching the price plummet on these at my Fry's in Chicago area. Ready to buy a few weeks ago at $1799 - but they were out. Then they got some more in this week - priced at $1499!. Who couldn't resist.

Been watching this thread before the purchase - so I'm mentally prepared for bulb issues.

Indeed, musta been old stock at Fry's - since my SN came up for 2-year bulb warranty. My software version is 1.2.4.

Can anyone help with the following:

1) Found a PDF of a letter where Toshiba is pro-actively shipping lamp spares - in advance - to those with "suspect" lamps. Was ready to purchase a spare - to maintain zero down time - until I saw this. If correct, how do I get in on that policy?

Only people whose original lamp was already replaced prior to the "new/improved" version will automatically receive an advance replacement lamp. The rest of us will have to call when the lamp fails, but get the 2 yr warranty on the original lamp.


2) Talk of firmware upgrades and CableCard. I don't plan on using CableCard. Is there any other compelling reason to social engineer my way into a firmware upgrade from Toshiba? Any other feature improvements/fixes unrelated to CableCard?


The only other reason is if you use the built in TVGOS program guide and you're having problems with it.

chipster
07-22-06, 04:31 PM
Thanks!

Looks like I'll purchase a spare for the closet after all.

vfr781rider
07-22-06, 05:45 PM
I think br may win the war, but I think both formats will hang around and the hd dvd library will remain to grow... but even if it does lose, you have one of the best upconverting dvd players you can buy and you can get whatever movies you want that come out in the format... I'm kinda stoked to see the hd dvd versions of the LOTR trilogy... :D

Obviously, this will be like the DVD 'wars' of a few years back. In a year or two, you'll be able to by a recorder that will work with either media. That's what I am going to wait for :)

bruin95
07-22-06, 06:41 PM
Obviously, this will be like the DVD 'wars' of a few years back. In a year or two, you'll be able to by a recorder that will work with either media. That's what I am going to wait for :)

You'll be waiting longer than a year or two, I'm afraid. And when it does come, be prepared to pay more than you did for your TV for a unit like that.

Rudy1
07-22-06, 06:48 PM
I have discussed this warning with a couple of manufacturers, and they both stated that the warning is placed in the instruction manuals specifically because their engineers are fully aware that end users who connect computers to such displays will not be 100% happy with the results. One manufacturer even hinted that connecting a computer to such a display might void the warranty on the display (though they don't actually state this in the manual).

My advice to those who insist on connecting non-PC compatible displays to their computers: if you're comfortable with the risk to your equipment, go ahead. It's your money. ;)

enmoco
07-22-06, 07:58 PM
not yet... but if I were to buy one of the new dvd formats now, it'd be hd dvd hands down...

there are only a couple of blue ray titles that look good, while most look on par or worse than SD dvds...

if you think newer dvds look good and that blu-ray looks good, hd dvd will blow you away!

I think br may win the war, but I think both formats will hang around and the hd dvd library will remain to grow... bt even if it does lose, you have one of the best upconverting dvd players you can buy and you can get whatever movies you want that come out in the format... I'm kinda stoked to see the hd dvd versions of the LOTR trilogy... :D The Toshiba DLP (HM/HMX) Owners Thread

Hunter Green
07-23-06, 08:31 AM
Hunter Green, ... just wondering , have you completely reviewed your 62HM15A Owner's Manual about connecting a PC?

Yes. Have you completely reviewed this thread? Check the first few pages of it in particular.

toadman50
07-23-06, 09:13 AM
Well let's hope this one gets fixed! I am sour on Toshiba right now. I will post what happens when I hear back from the service call.

I do hope the service call goes well. Just make sure that you keep all of your records, every time you call Toshiba service or the repair person. You will need this when you call Toshiba and tell them that you are fed up with the machine. As for DLP's, I think you just had bad experience like I did with Toshiba. I purchased as a replacement a Samsung HLR5067W and could not be more happy with it. It needs a color calibration like the Toshiba, but when you are done, it is nice. For the few first months I was on edge thinking I made the worst mistake in the world buying another DLP, and if you read these threads, it makes it worse, but I was happy with the Sammy.

Best Buy will have nothing to do with you unless you have the extended warranty through them or if Toshiba gives you an RMA number. The nice thing is that Toshiba actually doesn't tell you what to do with the RMA number, they seemed to be confused. I had to visit my local Best Buy manager to ask her what I do with it (nice customer service, huh?).

I know I will get responses to this thread as "sammy's have issues too". Take a look at the threads and you will see (A). There is about half of the pages on the sammy's, and (B) no bulb issues there! My point is I wouldn't give up on DLP yet.

piturra
07-23-06, 11:23 AM
Yes. Have you completely reviewed this thread? Check the first few pages of it in particular.

So, your manual does contain the same PC warning box that the 62HM14E & my 56HM195 (62HM195) Owner Manuals have, ... ok.

Well then, ... keep in mind what Rudy1 states, ... it's basically a MFG. Warranty liability issue, ... that has not changed since the days of old, :rolleyes: when I sold Audio / Video years ago ...

I have discussed this warning with a couple of manufacturers, and they both stated that the warning is placed in the instruction manuals specifically because their engineers are fully aware that end users who connect computers to such displays will not be 100% happy with the results. One manufacturer even hinted that connecting a computer to such a display might void the warranty on the display (though they don't actually state this in the manual).

My advice to those who insist on connecting non-PC compatible displays to their computers: if you're comfortable with the risk to your equipment, go ahead. It's your money. ;)

Like he says, its your money!

Phil

shome
07-23-06, 12:51 PM
Hi all,

Just joined the fray here at AVS. I just got myself a hella of a killer deal on a 56HM195 from Sears. Try $1372 w/tax... Including a 3 year ($499.99) (<--- yes, too much I know!) in-house warranty! Yep, that makes this TV one hella of an amazing bargin to me.... at $872!! :) :D :p

Anyway, I am a newbie at this TV stuff so I'll try to get my thoughts out correctly.

When I turn the TV on and go through the cable channels that I have, I have noticed that it keeps saying (on all channels) FULL 480i.

Now to the best of my reviewing on here and google, this is indeed a 1080p TV @ 1920x1080.

Could I get some clarfication on this? I'm kinda confused. :confused: What is not letting me see better resolution?

I have a normal, non-upcoverted DvD player if that makes any difference. Looking in to getting one tho. I know about the bulb issue also, and my TV has the extended 2 year warranty on the bulb through Toshiba. :)

Thanks for any and all help ;)

nikonosis
07-23-06, 02:35 PM
Hi all,

Just joined the fray here at AVS. I just got myself a hella of a killer deal on a 56HM195 from Sears. Try $1372 w/tax... Including a 3 year ($499.99) (<--- yes, too much I know!) in-house warranty! Yep, that makes this TV one hella of an amazing bargin to me.... at $872!! :) :D :p

Anyway, I am a newbie at this TV stuff so I'll try to get my thoughts out correctly.

When I turn the TV on and go through the cable channels that I have, I have noticed that it keeps saying (on all channels) FULL 480i.

Now to the best of my reviewing on here and google, this is indeed a 1080p TV @ 1920x1080.

Could I get some clarfication on this? I'm kinda confused. :confused: What is not letting me see better resolution?

I have a normal, non-upcoverted DvD player if that makes any difference. Looking in to getting one tho. I know about the bulb issue also, and my TV has the extended 2 year warranty on the bulb through Toshiba. :)

Thanks for any and all help ;)

how did u get that deal at sears?

bruin95
07-23-06, 04:41 PM
When I turn the TV on and go through the cable channels that I have, I have noticed that it keeps saying (on all channels) FULL 480i.

Now to the best of my reviewing on here and google, this is indeed a 1080p TV @ 1920x1080.

Could I get some clarfication on this? I'm kinda confused. :confused: What is not letting me see better resolution?



The on-screen display is telling you what resolution the SOURCE is. The TV is always outputting at 1080p.

shome
07-23-06, 04:50 PM
The on-screen display is telling you what resolution the SOURCE is. The TV is always outputting at 1080p.

That's kind of what I thought, thank you. I'm just using regular analog cable at the moment no HD etc. so I know that currently the resolution is not all that great, yet.

About the deal, the guy wanted to move the TV and I told him the price I wanted to pay, he and two others mulled it over for some time (I was there 2 hrs +), and eventually I ended up with a very nice TV. It had been there for awhile, being a floor model, and the last one there, there was apperantly a lot of wiggle room in the price. All in all it was a great transaction and the TV is perfect for the room. :D

BTW, what's a good, inexpensive up-converted DVD player? I'd like the pictures to look better while watching dvd's.

Don1959
07-23-06, 11:00 PM
Well just had the light engine replaced on my 56HM195 and the picture just does not seem to be right..... The tech came in and replaced the engine said there you go and left..... I have spent the last week trying to dial this set in... re-calibrated using DVE several times and I just can not seem to get it right... colours seem off, picture seems to be a little out of focus.. notice much more pixellization and (I think) macro blocking than was present on my old light engine.... even HD does not look correct....

These are subtle problems..... a person off the street might think things look good.... I have talked to Toshiba Canada about this and they suggested sending the Tech guy back again to look it over.... but I just can not see this guy doing much but saying "looks ok to me".... Toshiba has rules about the same company working on a set that did the original repair... so I think that I am going to be stuck with this guy.....

Anyway... just ranting... maybe someone here may have some advice on how to handle this situation......

Don

enmoco
07-23-06, 11:44 PM
Well just had the light engine replaced on my 56HM195 and the picture just does not seem to be right..... The tech came in and replaced the engine said there you go and left..... I have spent the last week trying to dial this set in... re-calibrated using DVE several times and I just can not seem to get it right... colours seem off, picture seems to be a little out of focus.. notice much more pixellization and (I think) macro blocking than was present on my old light engine.... even HD does not look correct....

These are subtle problems..... a person off the street might think things look good.... I have talked to Toshiba Canada about this and they suggested sending the Tech guy back again to look it over.... but I just can not see this guy doing much but saying "looks ok to me".... Toshiba has rules about the same company working on a set that did the original repair... so I think that I am going to be stuck with this guy.....

Anyway... just ranting... maybe someone here may have some advice on how to handle this situation......

Don As documented here,I had a LE replaced the first week I had my 45HM195. As I was able to watch it right up until they showed up with it (week after coming out to diagnose) I was never without a picture really.He called about 45 minutes before arrival and told me to let it cool if I was watching. I wasn't anyway. I was able to watch the tech remove and install LE (about 40 minutes total) After installation he made many "adjustments and resettings" as he called them. This took about 15 minutes tops.If I was you, I would quiz the people who run this shop,before the tech comes out. If he owns the place,I guess square two.........good luck.............. :)

Don1959
07-24-06, 01:14 AM
After installation he made many "adjustments and resettings" as he called them

I do believe that this is what my problem is.... there have been no adjustments made at all... I too watched him replace the light engine.... took about 45 mins or so.... he did an ok job of the physical installation.... or so it seemed to me.... but he showed no interest or maybe no knowledge of adjusting or setting up this set.....

Did the Tech that work on yours go in to the service menu to do any set up.... did he check geometry.... ?

I will try talking to everybody.... My real concern is that the Tech will say everything is "fine" with my set.... Toshiba will probably go along with his opinion....

Don

rahull
07-24-06, 09:21 AM
Mine was replaced some time ago (62hm84) only adjustment necessary was color wheel speed from sticker attached to new light engine. I do my own gray scale & color settings but don't remember it being necessary after install.

BrianLive
07-24-06, 12:22 PM
I'm looking for a bit of advise on an HD problem I'm having with my 52HM95.

Several months ago I started to notice a white "flash" or a quick ghost appearing on the screen when watching an HD channel. At first I thought it was the channel, but I have seen it on every HD channel since then.

Since it was only happening on the HD channels, I thought it may be my STB/DVR (a SA8100HD from Adelphia). However, since it started I have seen it happen when using the DVD player (Tosh HD-upconverting). Both are connected via HDMI.

This problem NEVER happens when watching SD channels, only HD, and it appears to happen at different intervals depending on the souce/channel.

Example: Watched Deadwood on HBO and saw it maybe 3 times in the hour. The next night I had NBC on and it was so distracting that I had to change the channel. I did not see it on the new channel for 30 minutes, but went back to NBC and saw it again.

I would still think it was the STB if it wasn't happening on the DVD player, though.

My biggest problem isn't this, though, it's my lack of "proof of purchase" for any warantee repair... When I bought the TV in December it was an open box 52HM84 on clearance. When I got it home I discovered it was actually a brand new 52HM95 that Best Buy had mislabeled. BB was great about it and changed my extended warantee to reflect the difference, but could not give me a new receipt.

Because my receipt has a different model #, Tosh wouldn't even talk to me last month when the lamp went. BB replaced it through a sub-contractor, but they had a problem with the lack of a receipt... a hassle I would like to avoid again if possible.

Any suggestions on how to get this fixed as quick and easily as possible? I'm also worried that since the problem is intermittant, when the tech shows up to troubleshoot it happens to be at a time when it isn't happening at all!

Hndsmpete
07-24-06, 06:09 PM
hey guys i just bought a new 62hm195 after selling my 52hmx84. Now my questions is i know tis a 1080p set, but it doesnt do it through hdmi correct? SO how does it do 1080p then, i kind of bought it for a ps3 and such...

Ultanium
07-24-06, 07:06 PM
Well I too have joined the ranks of Toshiba DLP owners, picked up the 56hm195 at a Houston Fry's for $1499 this weekend. Mine evidently has the newer bulb, checked the serial number on the Toshiba site and mine does not qualify, glad I bought the 5 year in house warranty for $329.95. Hooked up to my dvd/vcr recorder combo through the component cables and was very disappointed in the pq, and a trip back to the store for a progressive scan model didn't help much either... I am calling Dish right now for HD service, but not sure where to turn for a bargain DVD player that will let the Toshiba shine, it looked a helluva lot better in the store imho.

Ult

enmoco
07-24-06, 07:19 PM
Toshiba SD5980 prog. scan player $150 or less anywhere and is a helluva player,IMHO. ...............http://www.superwarehouse.com/p.cfm?p=694614&CMP=KAC-NexTag ........includes an HDMI cable in the box..

enmoco
07-24-06, 07:27 PM
:) http://www.monoprice.com/products/department.asp?c_id=102 ............also,best prices on addional cables. I would run both your cable box and your DVD thru HDMI. However,component video looks great too.......... :)

enmoco
07-24-06, 07:34 PM
Hooked up to my dvd/vcr recorder combo through the component cables and was very disappointed in the pq, and a trip back to the store for a progressive scan model didn't help much either...
Make sure STB and DVD are set to 1080I for what should be the best PQ, you should experiment to your liking though........... :)

bruin95
07-25-06, 02:43 AM
hey guys i just bought a new 62hm195 after selling my 52hmx84. Now my questions is i know tis a 1080p set, but it doesnt do it through hdmi correct? SO how does it do 1080p then, i kind of bought it for a ps3 and such...

The TV only OUTPUTS at 1080p. It takes whatever signal you feed it (up to 1080i) and converts it to a 1080p. The TV cannot accept a 1080p signal through any of its inputs. That is true for most 1080p sets at this time.

DanzBorin
07-25-06, 08:49 AM
Well I too have joined the ranks of Toshiba DLP owners, picked up the 56hm195 at a Houston Fry's for $1499 this weekend. Mine evidently has the newer bulb, checked the serial number on the Toshiba site and mine does not qualify, glad I bought the 5 year in house warranty for $329.95. Hooked up to my dvd/vcr recorder combo through the component cables and was very disappointed in the pq, and a trip back to the store for a progressive scan model didn't help much either... I am calling Dish right now for HD service, but not sure where to turn for a bargain DVD player that will let the Toshiba shine, it looked a helluva lot better in the store imho.

Ult
check out the houston OTA and houston TWC threads... will give you a lot of info...

beware the Dish HD is a downrezzed HD and standard def channels on dish look HORRID on a large TV... I had and loved dish for years until I got my dlp, put up with it for like 10 months and finally moved over to cable... it has it's problems too, but I'm getting more for less right now with cable and it actually looks good... ;)

Hndsmpete
07-25-06, 09:51 AM
Ah are the tv's pretty good at converting such things?

Ultanium
07-25-06, 10:07 AM
Tnx enmoco, great prices on cables there.

DanzBorin, I'll check out those threads as soon as I type this! I live about 50 miles west of Houston and out in the country so cable is not an option. I called Dish yesterday and supposed to get hooked up this weekend, is Directv also downrezzed?

I was digging around in the menus on both the Tosh and the DVP last night, and found out the player (Phillips) was not even in progressive scan mode. I turned it on, shifted the Tosh to FULL screen mode, and the picture was very nice. Unfortunately, my brand new TV has this bright white pixel right in the top center middle of the screen as of 10pm last night, and I cannot watch anything without being distracted by it... I am starting to think I should have bought a Plasma. Anyone have the phone number for Toshiba handy?

Ult

theghost33
07-25-06, 10:19 AM
Thanks theghost33!!! :) I bought my 56HM195 last Feb. 1st (received - yep, just in time for the Super Bowl :D ) via Amazon ($2,499 +SH best price on the internet @ the time) and except for 1 bulb failure (no down time since I had an eBay back-up Lamp / as far as the failed Lamp - Toshiba is no longer using that particular Japanese lamp vendor), ... the set has performed exceptionally well and I presently feel after 5-months of use, ... this investment was well spent.

FYI: I posted my subjective review @ Epinions (http://www1.epinions.com/content_225550110340). And I have approx., the same subjective review, on-going @ HT SPot (http://www.***************.com/htsthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/781539/an/0/page/0#Post781539), ... though w/more detailed life-cycle experiences & answers to a few members questions.

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As far as HD DVD or Blue-Ray, since my newer DVDs (digital / HD image transferred sources) looks near HiDef from my Panasonic DVD-S77s - HDMI, ... w/over 480 DVDs in my present library, ... I can easily wait for the HD DVDs library to grow and let the format wars settle down.

IMHO though, based on costs vs. performance, the HD DVD format is ahead at this point.

Phil

Tonight Friday NITE DVD is "Secondhand Lions" (http://www.dvdspot.com/movienight.php?member=piturra
) w/friends that missed this funny adventure family movie. This is one of those DVDs that has excellent near HiDef PQ. ;)

I just got my 56HM195 delivered this past Sat. I was in heaven!!!! :D God I love this TV!!! I picked up the $139 Sony Upconverting DVD player (don't remember the Model number) and connected via HDMI running at 720P (liked it a hair better than the auto select or 1080i) and the PQ is Superb! I was really surprised that the 480i Dvd's (not superbit either) would have such clarity. I am hooked!!!! I agree with your assessment that there is no rush to run out and get HD DVD or Blueray at this point. The quality, while not exactly HD, is still excellent and I am quite happy with it.

Couple of issues. One, I hooked the TV up to my HD DVR Cable box via component video and optical audio (I did not have an extra HDMI cable at the time as I used it to hook up my DVD player). HD picture quality does not suffer much that I can see but I am getting a noticeable screen door effect on standard TV. I am not sure if HDMI will improve these artifacts or not. I know that it can relate to viewing distance but at 9 1/2 feet I thought that this should not be a major issue with a 56 inch screen as twice screen size is 9.3 feet. Any suggestions or is this simply the downside of watching standard signal TV?

Second, I have read a great deal about having the PC calibrated for the room that it is being viewed in. Is it worth having a professional do this or is this something that many of you have done yourself? Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again :D

DanzBorin
07-25-06, 10:35 AM
Tnx enmoco, great prices on cables there.

DanzBorin, I'll check out those threads as soon as I type this! I live about 50 miles west of Houston and out in the country so cable is not an option. I called Dish yesterday and supposed to get hooked up this weekend, is Directv also downrezzed?

I was digging around in the menus on both the Tosh and the DVP last night, and found out the player (Phillips) was not even in progressive scan mode. I turned it on, shifted the Tosh to FULL screen mode, and the picture was very nice. Unfortunately, my brand new TV has this bright white pixel right in the top center middle of the screen as of 10pm last night, and I cannot watch anything without being distracted by it... I am starting to think I should have bought a Plasma. Anyone have the phone number for Toshiba handy?

Ult
try resetting it... the dlps don't really work the same way as an lcd, so a stuck pixel might be remedied w/ a hard reboot... if not, I'm sure it's something fairly simple that service can fix for you...

and don't use full screen mode w/ your DVD player, go into the dvd menu and let it know it's a 16:9 TV... any anamorphic dvd should be presented in it's correct aspect ratio...

if it's 4:3 material, just leave it non stretched as dlp won't burn in...

and yes, any satallite TV will be downrezzed/compressed... if not it would take an eternity to get to you... ;)

nikonosis
07-25-06, 08:55 PM
my 52hm95 seems to have a severe issue with color banding and dithering for some reason. Would replacing the light engine fix this? If not what would fix it? I had a tech out to the house and he said the picture looked good to him even though i did show him some major color banding on a solar eclipse from discovery hd theater and he said that was weird. He told me he would replace the light engine in it or do whatever i wanted since its still under warranty. I told him I would think about it cause they have to take it back to the shop to do it and he said he would have the tv for a week. Anyone have any suggestions on what I should do?

bourboncapitalHD
07-25-06, 09:27 PM
Can someone help with custom picture settings? My babysitter's messed with the tv today and I can't seem to get them where I had them. It doesn't seem like my picture is as sharp/bright as it used to be. I'm running all top end monster component cables with Directv HD. Any help would be appreciated.

enmoco
07-25-06, 10:14 PM
my 52hm95 seems to have a severe issue with color banding and dithering for some reason. Would replacing the light engine fix this? If not what would fix it? I had a tech out to the house and he said the picture looked good to him even though i did show him some major color banding on a solar eclipse from discovery hd theater and he said that was weird. He told me he would replace the light engine in it or do whatever i wanted since its still under warranty. I told him I would think about it cause they have to take it back to the shop to do it and he said he would have the tv for a week. Anyone have any suggestions on what I should do? If there is another shop you can use,call 'em. Your display has an in-home warranty,they can just order what parts you both agree to (LE) and when they come in, come to your house and install. LE R&R is very simple. You don't have any loss of viewing.It takes longer to get the back off than to repair.....good luck. :)P.S. You'll also be able to watch them take the NEW LE out of the box and install. If they take it away.....well.......................

nikonosis
07-26-06, 10:01 AM
there is another shop but its to far away to do service where i live... What should i do to get them to replace the le in my home? The guy that came out seemed like an idiot, he couldn't even find the menu on the remote.

betasheet
07-26-06, 10:22 AM
I'm currently looking to buy a new set, and I was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with the 50HMX96, the 720p Cinema series. My choice right now is between the 50HMX96 and the Sony KDF46E2000. It seems many people (or at least a very vocal minority) were having trouble with the lamps and the light engines in the earlier Toshiba's. Have these problems been resolved in the 2006 models? Any info would be much appreciated.

Ultanium
07-26-06, 10:39 AM
the pixel did not go away when I rebooted the Tosh, but it did when I turned off the dvd. Yay! And I have everything set on both and now the picture looks like it should, although I imagine an upsampling player would look even better. Thanks Dan

Ult

DanzBorin
07-26-06, 10:43 AM
the pixel did not go away when I rebooted the Tosh, but it did when I turned off the dvd. Yay! And I have everything set on both and now the picture looks like it should, although I imagine an upsampling player would look even better. Thanks Dan

Ult
it's actually Rob... but no problem glad it works...

and yes upscale players look even better... ;)

enmoco
07-26-06, 11:37 AM
I'm currently looking to buy a new set, and I was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with the 50HMX96, the 720p Cinema series. My choice right now is between the 50HMX96 and the Sony KDF46E2000. It seems many people (or at least a very vocal minority) were having trouble with the lamps and the light engines in the earlier Toshiba's. Have these problems been resolved in the 2006 models? Any info would be much appreciated.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=663974&highlight=50hmx96

nikonosis
07-27-06, 08:12 PM
What deinterlacing chip does the 52hm95 use?

enmoco
07-27-06, 10:35 PM
What deinterlacing chip does the 52hm95 use?
http://www.hometheatermag.com/hookmeup/0506halfrez/ .....Test results. That four consumer electronics companies (JVC, Hitachi, Pioneer, and Toshiba) have been boasting for the last couple of years that their displays properly process all the 1,080 broadcast lines at once should help further illustrate the importance of proper signal processing of 1080i broadcasts. According to our tests, these displays really do.

I conducted the testing by connecting a PC with a MyHD video card to each display. The test pattern I used to determine how the processor functions is called SMPTE 133. The pattern is a 1080i file that was output from the video card's component video output, set at 1080i. This image has five boxes with alternating horizontal black and white lines, each occupying a single scan line. A white line that rotates 360 degrees is overlaid on the pattern, to simulate motion. Displays that properly deinterlace and pass this test continue to show the boxes with the horizontal black and white lines. The ones that fail flicker instead, making the boxes switch from white to black to white continuously. This is because they double the first field that consists of just white lines, and then they double the next field that is all black lines. This interpolation of just the odd or even lines wrongly assumes that, if the odd lines are black, then the even ones must also be black. When the white field appears, it makes the same wrong interpolation, causing the boxes to appear to be all white. Displays that properly deinterlace show the alternating lines as they originally appear.

A number of television makers disclose which processing chips they use, but many others do not. Displays that use the latest top-of-the-line integrated circuits by Pixelworks (Epson) and Genesis (Westinghouse) passed. Ones that use earlier versions fail, which the respective chip makers confirmed. The latest Yamaha front projector I tested is the first display to use the new Realta HQV chip by Silicon Optix; it too passed the test.

Generally speaking, manufacturers that do not advertise that their displays properly deinterlace 1080i may not. During my tests, I found that different-sized displays in the same product series will generally produce similar results. For example, both the 50-inch and 60-inch Sony 1080p SXRD rear projectors passed, as did their XBR series LCD panel and their new 720p A10 rear projectors, although their 768p A20 rear projector and 32-inch A10 flat panel failed.

The bottom line
A number of factors determine how sharp and clear an HD display appears. Among them are bandwidth, contrast ratio, black level, and optics (in projectors). Good signal processing is very important, and, all things being equal, a display that properly deinterlaces and processes 1080i will yield a better picture than one that doesn't. Check our chart to determine if the displays you are considering pass or fail.


Make/ModelTechnologyNative ResolutionPass/Fail

Audiovox FP-3705LCD FP768pFail
Epson LS65HD13LCD RP1080pPass
Hitachi 60VX9153LCD RP720pPass
JVC LT32X576LCD FP768pPass
JVC LT-40X776LCD FP768pPass
JVC HD526886LCOS RP720pPass
LG DU37LZ30LCD FP768pFail
LG DU42PX12XPlasma FP768pFail
Mitsubishi WD-62627DLP RP1080pFail
Mitsubishi WD-73927DLP RP1080pFail
Mitsubishi WD-52627DLP RP1080pFail
Mitsubishi WD-525273LCD RP720pFail
Mitsubishi LC-3780LCD FP1080pPass
Mitsubishi PD-4265Plasma FP768pPass
Mitsubishi PD-5050Plasma FP768pPass
Panasonic PJ44LCX653LCD RP720pFail
Panasonic PJ52LCX653LCD RP720pFail
Panasonic TH-37PX50Plasma768pPass
Panasonic TH-50PX50Plasma768pPass
Philips 37PF7320ALCD FP768pFail
Philips 32PF7320LCD FP768pFail
Philips 26PF5320LCD FP768pPass
Philips 37PF7320LCD FP768pFail
Philips 427230APlasma768pFail
Philips 429630APlasma768pFail
Philips 50PF9630APlasma FP768pFail
Pioneer Pro 930Plasma FP768pPass
RCA HD50LPW164DLP RP720pFail
RCA HD50LPW175DLP RP720pFail
Samsung HL-R5668DLP RP1080pPass
Samsung HL-R5067DLP RP720pFail
Samsung HL-R5667DLP RP720pFail
Samsung HL-R6167DLP RP720pFail
Samsung HL-R4667DLP RP720pFail
Samsung LNR408DLCD FP768PPass
Samsung LNR268WLCD FP768pPass
Samsung HPR-5052Plasma FP768pPass
Samsung HPR-4252Plasma FP768pPass
Sharp LC-45GD5ULCD FP1080pFail
Sharp LC-32GB5ULCD FP768pFail
Sharp LC-32D5ULCD FP768pFail
Sony KDF-55A20LCD RP768pFail
Sony KDSR60XBR1LCOS RP1080pPass
Sony KDSR50XBR1LCOS RP1080pPass
Sony KDFE-42A103LCD RP720pPass
Sony KDFE-50A103LCD RP720pPass
Sony KLVS32A10LCD FP768pFail
Sony KLV32XBR1LCD FP768pPass
Sony KDL26XBR1LCD FP768pPass
Toshiba 46HM95DLP RP720pPass
Toshiba 52HM95DLP RP720pPass
Toshiba 37HL95LCD FP768pPass
Westinghouse LVM-37W1LCD FP1080pPass
Yamaha DPX-1300DLP FP720pPass
Total Sets: 54
Passed: 28
Fail: 26

enmoco
07-28-06, 10:21 AM
:D Short answer would be''I haven't a clue",but aint that picture great................ :D

nikonosis
07-28-06, 11:53 AM
lol, his answer was a good read though!

enmoco
07-28-06, 08:33 PM
lol, his answer was a good read though!It wasn't his,it was mine.......... :)

abbygayle
07-30-06, 10:30 PM
I read a few of the posts early on about connecting to your pc even though Toshiba says over and over again in the manual NOT to do this. Just wondering if anyone has experienced any problems.

I would like to hook my laptop up to watch streaming video (mlb subscription). I"m able to do this with an S-video cable and audio cables. I can't see my desktop, but if I drag my media player over to the right I can see it on my TV. (I have Toshiba 62HM195) Is this ok? Obviously not the best way to do it, does anyone have an easy guide to do it better?

But for starters, will this be ok? Any major issues with this?
I haven't read all 208 pages of this thread, but why is Toshiba so animate about NOT connecting to pc?
thanks

Hunter Green
07-31-06, 09:26 AM
There's no good reason, really. They just decided the grief (support problems, dissatisfied customers, complaints about drivers, possible liability issues, etc.) was not worth the benefit (the selling point of "works with your PC!"). But there's no technical reason it can't be done, it's just tricky to do better than S-Video.

luvtosh
07-31-06, 01:47 PM
enmoco and others Please Help

I bought my 52HM95 last september and replaced the bulbs twice during the first 5 months of ownership. The third bulb that I installed on my tv was sometime during the first week of March 2006 and the TV has worked flawless so far!!!. With my experience in blown bulbs, I am starting to feel the picture on my tv is getting slightly dimmer (may be not or I am just being too cautious), but you know what I fear the worst. With that in mind, I just called Toshiba customer service (wanting to make sure the warranty on the bulb is for 2 years becoz my serial number qualifies for extended mfr warranty and I did receive the letter from Toshiba regarding the new and improved letter but never got one from them) and asked about my current bulb that I received from Toshiba in March 06. The customer service representative confirmed that the bulb that I received in march was the "new and improved lamp" and I should be getting close to 6000 hrs of life out of it and if the bulb blows prior to that he said he would authorize my local service center to come and replace the "entire light engine" (or the ballist or somethin'). Now I am scared to death.

Is this a good thing to replace the entire light engine in order to avoid blown light bulb problems??. As I said, other than bulb failure issues, the tv is absolutely stunning with no color, focus or banding issues. If indeed my current bulb (5 months + running) blows in the next few weeks, should I agree to replace my light engine instead of just replacing with another bulb. Toshiba thinks there is no point in replacing the new and improved bulb before its life time but instead wanted to replace the entire lite engine. I just dont want to jeopardize the functioning of the tv and take a chance on the new light engine in order to solve the blown bulb issue.

What caused the light engine replacement in some of your cases, and whether your tv has had any new problems after replacing the light engine???. Please help.

Thanks

enmoco
07-31-06, 09:41 PM
enmoco and others Please Help

I bought my 52HM95 last september and replaced the bulbs twice during the first 5 months of ownership. The third bulb that I installed on my tv was sometime during the first week of March 2006 and the TV has worked flawless so far!!!. With my experience in blown bulbs, I am starting to feel the picture on my tv is getting slightly dimmer (may be not or I am just being too cautious), but you know what I fear the worst. With that in mind, I just called Toshiba customer service (wanting to make sure the warranty on the bulb is for 2 years becoz my serial number qualifies for extended mfr warranty and I did receive the letter from Toshiba regarding the new and improved letter but never got one from them) and asked about my current bulb that I received from Toshiba in March 06. The customer service representative confirmed that the bulb that I received in march was the "new and improved lamp" and I should be getting close to 6000 hrs of life out of it and if the bulb blows prior to that he said he would authorize my local service center to come and replace the "entire light engine" (or the ballist or somethin'). Now I am scared to death.

Is this a good thing to replace the entire light engine in order to avoid blown light bulb problems??. As I said, other than bulb failure issues, the tv is absolutely stunning with no color, focus or banding issues. If indeed my current bulb (5 months + running) blows in the next few weeks, should I agree to replace my light engine instead of just replacing with another bulb. Toshiba thinks there is no point in replacing the new and improved bulb before its life time but instead wanted to replace the entire lite engine. I just dont want to jeopardize the functioning of the tv and take a chance on the new light engine in order to solve the blown bulb issue.

What caused the light engine replacement in some of your cases, and whether your tv has had any new problems after replacing the light engine???. Please help.

ThanksLet them replace it. It's just a lot less hassel all around. There is no "guess and patch" work going on if they just slide the old out,slide the new (likely factory rebuilt} in. All work is covered for remainder of one year, from date of purchase only, on your set now.The fix is in house so you don't have any down time either........enjoy....... :)

smokin
08-01-06, 07:20 AM
Hi all

I've been following this thread and the 1080p thread, which folded, since April. I purchased the Aussie version Toshi DLP 72CM9UA in mid May 06 thinking that most lamp troubles and new model issues would be ironed out by then. Would you believe the sh!tbox lasted 2 months before the lamp packed it in at 384 hours. :confused:

No problem, lamp is still under warranty only get 6 months on lamp from tight-arse Toshiba in Aus. What I thought may interest some readers is that the Tosh tech was instructed by Toshiba to adjust the ballast settings in the service menu when he came to replace the lamp. I notice that US Tosh just supplies a replacement lamp.

To date we have only three lamp failures recorded on the Aus DVA thread and they all occurred recently.

Hope we're not in for the probs you blokes are having.

Hey Enmoco, lots of interestin info but can you lay off the RED print you're burnin my eyes. :cool:

Cheers

Smokin ;)

enmoco
08-01-06, 12:33 PM
Hi all

I've been following this thread and the 1080p thread, which folded, since April. I purchased the Aussie version Toshi DLP 72CM9UA in mid May 06 thinking that most lamp troubles and new model issues would be ironed out by then. Would you believe the sh!tbox lasted 2 months before the lamp packed it in at 384 hours. :confused:

No problem, lamp is still under warranty only get 6 months on lamp from tight-arse Toshiba in Aus. What I thought may interest some readers is that the Tosh tech was instructed by Toshiba to adjust the ballast settings in the service menu when he came to replace the lamp. I notice that US Tosh just supplies a replacement lamp.

To date we have only three lamp failures recorded on the Aus DVA thread and they all occurred recently.

Hope we're not in for the probs you blokes are having.

Hey Enmoco, lots of interestin info but can you lay off the RED print you're burnin my eyes. :cool:

Cheers

Smokin ;) Sure!!

toenail
08-01-06, 05:46 PM
Hi all

I've been following this thread and the 1080p thread, which folded, since April. I purchased the Aussie version Toshi DLP 72CM9UA in mid May 06 thinking that most lamp troubles and new model issues would be ironed out by then. Would you believe the sh!tbox lasted 2 months before the lamp packed it in at 384 hours. :confused:

No problem, lamp is still under warranty only get 6 months on lamp from tight-arse Toshiba in Aus. What I thought may interest some readers is that the Tosh tech was instructed by Toshiba to adjust the ballast settings in the service menu when he came to replace the lamp. I notice that US Tosh just supplies a replacement lamp.

To date we have only three lamp failures recorded on the Aus DVA thread and they all occurred recently.

Hope we're not in for the probs you blokes are having.

Hey Enmoco, lots of interestin info but can you lay off the RED print you're burnin my eyes. :cool:

Cheers

Smokin ;)

I'll have to check again, but I don't recall seeing an adjustment in the Service Menu relating to the lamp ballast. Did the Tech explain what the purpose was behind this adjustment?

UniversalGC
08-02-06, 11:05 AM
Just ordered a 72HM195 and a 56HM195 through an online vendor. The site said both were in stock, but I'm worried about getting a call today stating neither is actually available since the new models are on the horizon.

Hopefully things will work out, but I'm skeptical. I'll report back when I know more.

enmoco
08-02-06, 11:31 AM
Just ordered a 72HM195 and a 56HM195 through an online vendor. The site said both were in stock, but I'm worried about getting a call today stating neither is actually available since the new models are on the horizon.

Hopefully things will work out, but I'm skeptical. I'll report back when I know more.Uh....I know I can't wait........ :)

new04quest
08-02-06, 12:22 PM
Have anyone connect the Toshiba 56HMX96 with MCE PC? I tried it last night, but it didn't work very well. The MCE is HP Z545. I have not find ways to configure PC and DLP with DVI/HDMI connection. The DLP have no problem recognizes the MCE through DVI/HDMI cable, but I couldn't see the MCE taskbars on the screen. The PQ is okay. If I use the 15-pin PC connection, I can see the taskbars and everything else but the PQ is not very good.

Have anyone find ways to set the MCE display settings for DVI/HDMI connections with 56HMX96? Thank you ahead for the info.

HP z545: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?lc=en&cc=us&lang=en&dlc=en&product=435776&

Toshiba 56HMX96: http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/product.asp?model=50hmx96

UniversalGC
08-02-06, 01:50 PM
Just ordered a 72HM195 and a 56HM195 through an online vendor. The site said both were in stock, but I'm worried about getting a call today stating neither is actually available since the new models are on the horizon.

Hopefully things will work out, but I'm skeptical. I'll report back when I know more.

Well, it went as I feared - no longer in stock.

If anyone knows of a place I can still order these models for a reasonable price, please PM me. I am building a new home, and the bookcase is being custom built to hold a TV with the specific measurements of the 56". Thanks.

DanzBorin
08-02-06, 02:16 PM
Well, it went as I feared - no longer in stock.

If anyone knows of a place I can still order these models for a reasonable price, please PM me. I am building a new home, and the bookcase is being custom built to hold a TV with the specific measurements of the 56". Thanks.
Conn's still had the 05 models last weekend...

LR6AGB001
08-02-06, 03:23 PM
Well something happened that I wasn't prepared for, I come home to find smudges not to mention ink blotches on my screen. The model is a 52HMX84, from what I can piece together as to what took place this morning...someone had wiped the screen down with a paper towel and water. Whatever water wasn't dried off completely found it's way inside the screen leaving a very distracting display. I have no idea what a replacement screen will cost but at whatever price, this must be fixed. I planned on purchasing a HD-DVD player sometime this month and now this'll slow things down. I just hope my ex. warranty covers this. So the purpose of this post is to see whether or not this has happened to anyone or perhaps someone should know what is the price range for a replacement screen.

ohernan
08-02-06, 04:13 PM
FINALLY, I can now say that I love my Toshiba DLP TV! Woo Hoo!!! :D

The LE arrived Monday, and the tech came out right away to replace it, and sure enough, the buzzing noise is completely gone with the new LE. My TV is sooo quiet now, I can finally truly enjoy it without the annoying and distracting noise. So the color wheel was indeed the culprit in my case. I can't even hear the fans going on my set. Thumbs up to Toshiba on this problem that plagued my enjoyment of this TV for 4 months!

On the last issue with the geometry, it is still off. :( I cannot say for sure if it was always there when I first got the TV, or if something was bumped out of alignment after the tech replaced the lamp cooling fan in the first attempt to fix the buzzing noise. I did not notice it until after that first repair, so I'm still thinking the set was damaged.

But, I am so happy that the buzzing noise is gone, and the geometry is off by only a small bit, that I'm reluctant to have the TV mucked with any further and risk causing more problems. The tech guy told me that Toshiba's tech support said the trapezoid cannot be adjusted, and that replacing the LE does not involve any kind of geometry adjustments, that it is mounted on a fixed track in the back of the TV. His suggestion was to speak to customer service and push the issue with them.

I will talk to them and see what else they say about the geometry, and decide then if it's worth pushing the issue. When I get a chance, I'll post pictures here of my TGOS grid on my TV that best shows the geometry being off, and you all here can tell me if I'm being too anal or if I truly have a problem.

Just posting the conclusion to all the problems I've had with my TV. Finally, after I emailed Toshiba first a picture of my screen's geometry problems, they agreed to just go ahead and swap the set out with another brand new set. Apparently, the picture alignment is not serviceable, so they did not hesistate to offer an exchange in order to satisfy me. It arrived yesterday, and now I am a totally satisfied Toshiba customer! Their customer service has been exemplary the whole time.

I whole heartedly commend Toshiba for backing their product up as they have in my case, and highly recommend their DLPs as their picture quality is amazing! Thank you Toshiba!

oshodi
08-02-06, 04:22 PM
I finally found this thread. :)

I own the 72HM195 and absolutely love it!

Do you know that Toshiba is giving a 2 year extended warranty on the LAMP LIFE in all HM195 and HMX195?

All you have to do is log into: http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/product.asp?model=72HM195

Click on the "Resources" tab, then click on the "Information for Owners of 2005 DLP® Televisions." tab, enter your MODEL # and SERIAL #, and you get an extra year added to your lamp warranty. :)

oshodi
08-02-06, 04:30 PM
Hi all

I've been following this thread and the 1080p thread, which folded, since April. I purchased the Aussie version Toshi DLP 72CM9UA in mid May 06 thinking that most lamp troubles and new model issues would be ironed out by then. Would you believe the sh!tbox lasted 2 months before the lamp packed it in at 384 hours. :confused:

No problem, lamp is still under warranty only get 6 months on lamp from tight-arse Toshiba in Aus. What I thought may interest some readers is that the Tosh tech was instructed by Toshiba to adjust the ballast settings in the service menu when he came to replace the lamp. I notice that US Tosh just supplies a replacement lamp.

To date we have only three lamp failures recorded on the Aus DVA thread and they all occurred recently.

Hope we're not in for the probs you blokes are having.

Hey Enmoco, lots of interestin info but can you lay off the RED print you're burnin my eyes. :cool:

Cheers

Smokin ;)
Well Toshiba told me that the lamps installed in the HM195 and HMX195 were not up to specs from te company that manufactures it for them!

So Toshiba is giving a 2 year extended warranty on the LAMP LIFE in all HM195 and HMX195? :)

All you have to do is log into: http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televis...p?model=72HM195

Click on the "Resources" tab, then click on the "Information for Owners of 2005 DLP® Televisions." tab, enter your MODEL # and SERIAL #, and you get an extra year added to your lamp warranty.

casino187
08-02-06, 05:49 PM
FYI

Purchased TV in November, bulb just blew.

62HM94.

oshodi
08-02-06, 08:57 PM
FYI

Purchased TV in November, bulb just blew.

62HM94.
They will replace it in 4 buisness days and give you a 2 year warranty on it.

new04quest
08-02-06, 11:09 PM
Have anyone connect the Toshiba 56HMX96 with MCE PC? I tried it last night, but it didn't work very well. The MCE is HP Z545. I have not find ways to configure PC and DLP with DVI/HDMI connection. The DLP have no problem recognizes the MCE through DVI/HDMI cable, but I couldn't see the MCE taskbars on the screen. The PQ is okay. If I use the 15-pin PC connection, I can see the taskbars and everything else but the PQ is not very good.

Have anyone find ways to set the MCE display settings for DVI/HDMI connections with 56HMX96? Thank you ahead for the info.

HP z545: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?lc=en&cc=us&lang=en&dlc=en&product=435776&

Toshiba 56HMX96: http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/product.asp?model=50hmx96 I got it. I installed ATI Catalyst Control Center from HP webpage. The Toshiba 56HMX96 720P work like a charm. Everything is beautiful..!

Hndsmpete
08-03-06, 01:20 AM
hey guys, random question, but can any of you suggest where i find a stand for the 62hm195...Its massive, and i really dont like the toshiba stand....any ideas?

bruin95
08-03-06, 01:21 AM
They will replace it in 4 buisness days and give you a 2 year warranty on it.

Uh...no. The 2 year warranty is on the ORIGINAL bulb, not the replacement.

Bruins29
08-03-06, 09:20 AM
HND this is the best stand "deal" I have found (pm me for where). I am also picking up that TV and have been trying to decide on a stand or entertainment center. I have looked at a lot of stands but this is tempting for the price.

http://www.audio-video-furniture.com/Plateau-SR-V-65-C-Audio-Video-Stand.htm

If you want glass try this - http://www.audio-video-furniture.com/Bello-AVS-1063-63-Inch-Two-Tone-Audio-Video-System.htm

Shaner1
08-03-06, 09:46 AM
I got it. I installed ATI Catalyst Control Center from HP webpage. The Toshiba 56HMX96 720P work like a charm. Everything is beautiful..!

What connection and resolution are you using?

Thanks

new04quest
08-03-06, 10:24 AM
What connection and resolution are you using?

Thanks I use DVI/HDMI connection and the resolution is 1000’s by 600’s..! I forgot the exact setting and I am not at home at the moment. I'll get the exact resolution later today. First I thought; maybe there is no way to get the 720P DLP to work with MCE. I thought; it is not going to be very clear and it is not going to fit properly on the oversized screen. But the HD ATI Catalyst Control Center sets and fits everything by itself. I didn’t have to go through the MCE display menu to set it.

I was having problem with the digital audio setting too. I use optical connection for audio. I reloaded a new HD Realtek Codec version. It comes with a new controller too..!

Everything seems to come alive now..!

Shaner1
08-03-06, 11:31 AM
I use DVI/HDMI connection and the resolution is 1000’s by 600’s..! I forgot the exact setting and I am not at home at the moment. I'll get the exact resolution later today. First I thought; maybe there is no way to get the 720P DLP to work with MCE. I thought; it is not going to be very clear and it is not going to fit properly on the oversized screen. But the HD ATI Catalyst Control Center sets and fits everything by itself. I didn’t have to go through the MCE display menu to set it.

I was having problem with the digital audio setting too. I use optical connection for audio. I reloaded a new HD Realtek Codec version. It comes with a new controller too..!

Everything seems to come alive now..!

Ah, ok... so you are probably using 1152 X 648 (I think that's it). That's what I have to use when going through HDMI but it doesn't completely fill the screen. I can't go any bigger than that or it scales too large.

Does it fill the screen or do you have about a 1 inch or so black border? I get the border, which bothered me at first but now I just live with it.

new04quest
08-03-06, 11:43 AM
Ah, ok... so you are probably using 1152 X 648 (I think that's it). That's what I have to use when going through HDMI but it doesn't completely fill the screen. I can't go any bigger than that or it scales too large.

Does it fill the screen or do you have about a 1 inch or so black border? I get the border, which bothered me at first but now I just live with it. Yes, it fills the screen completely..!

masterp2
08-03-06, 12:25 PM
I am deciding between 50hm66 and 50hmx96 with the guide and IR blaster. Seems I could save $14 per month on the Cable company (cox) DVR, if I purchase the later, is this correct? I want to be able to use my own DVR (have not purchased yet) with DVD recorder, if this is possible.

Looking for some experience here, the toshiba descriptions lack the practical heads up.

Thanks

Michael

new04quest
08-03-06, 12:55 PM
I am deciding between 50hm66 and 50hmx96 with the guide and IR blaster. Seems I could save $14 per month on the Cable company (cox) DVR, if I purchase the later, is this correct? I want to be able to use my own DVR (have not purchased yet) with DVD recorder, if this is possible.

Looking for some experience here, the toshiba descriptions lack the practical heads up.

Thanks

Michael I do not have the 50HM66, but the 50HMX96 is having the same options as my 56HMX96. The 56HMX96 comes with HD CableCard slot. It is $3 a month for HD CableCard compare to $10 a month for HD cable box. It is a lot cleaner setup. The CableCard is lack of TV guide, but the picture and audio is top notch. Since I have a MCE in my system, I can get my TV guide through MCE. For the DVR; COX allows only their DVR. I purchased the identical DVR, but they wouldn't authorize it. It is in my garage at the moment..!

masterp2
08-03-06, 01:34 PM
....The CableCard is lack of TV guide, ....

Thank you for the informative post.

the 50HMX96 description states it has both cablecard AND TV guide.

According to Toshiba, yours does also

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/product.asp?model=56hmx96

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying

new04quest
08-03-06, 01:43 PM
Thank you for the informative post.

the 50HMX96 description states it has both cablecard AND TV guide.

According to Toshiba, yours does also

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/product.asp?model=56hmx96

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying
Yes, Toshiba comes with TV guide but CableCard is lack of TV guide. It is not a two way device.

masterp2
08-03-06, 01:51 PM
What I really want to accomplish, is TV Guide recording. Clean Hi Def recording, without renting a cox hi-def DVR. Maybe using a DVR with DVD recorder and a hard drive.

Can this be done?

Something smells illegal about them not authorizing your DVR.

DanzBorin
08-03-06, 02:15 PM
If you get cable you have to get their DVR... not really any way around it...

when Tivo series 3 comes out, you can do it by using a cablecard (if CC is even still supported by cable companies by then)...