Originally posted by Xesdeeni
The only problem with the theory is that the one deep desire (almost) every survivor has is to get off the stinkin' island...and that hasn't happened. :rolleyes:

Xesdeeni

Is it? Do you think Locke wants to leave if it means going back to his old life? Does it look like Jack, Charlie, Sawyer or Kate want their old lives back? Maybe it's the last thing any of them really want.

Remember that the french women told Sayid to "Keep an eye on his friends"... Leading him to believe that something may try to change them into something bad. She did kill off her 'co-workers' because of some 'evil' that took them.

Charlie was in the hands of one of the 'others'... Yes, I believe he would have some 'dain bramage' from his hanging experience... but could he have become 'infected' by whatever it is that the french women warned Sayid about?

Also, after this episode, I have a different outlook on Locke... I don't think he is a threat to the survivors (yet)... he seems to be genuinly wanting to find answers to what is happening on the island... But that isn't to say that what he and Boone finds may lead to his capture which could cause him to be infected by the 'others'...

Great episode... too bad we have to wait 4 weeks til the next one... :(

Agreed. I believe Locke will be the first to turn, perhaps joining forces with Ethan? I'd be worried if I were in Boone's shoes... At some point a major (or in Boone's case: an almost major) character need's to die...

But turn which way? Locke's comments at the begining of the series talks about the battle between good and evil, often symbolized in Lost by those darn black and white backgammon stones.

There are two sides to 'the force'. ;)

- Tom

I thought it was interesting that Jack was unshaven in his flashbacks. Of course, he can't shave for the flashbacks and then be unshaven for the island scenes. Just interesting continuity tidbit.

Did any one find the "Flight of the Phoenix" ads annoying in the windowbox format? On my 60" widescreen display, the image of the movie was surrounded by black. Yes, I understand why this is so. I just find it annoying. Someday, these ads will be in HD.

Also... more info on Jack's backstory... I think his 'story' has been the most predictable. I think we all knew that something along those lines is what was going to happen. His mother was so angry with hyim for 'what he did to his father'. His dad obviously spent a lot of time in the bars (and clearly spent his last days in the bottle, which probably lead to his death)

Interesting that it took learning that the 'crash girl' was pregnant to push Jack into betraying his father... I guess the guilt for one death wasn't enough... but for two deaths?

Also... a little peak into more of Kate's history. Her dad was in the military? is that right? I know she indicated that she spent a lot of time with him hunting in the backwoods, where she learned her survival skills.... I think we learn more about her in the next episode....

Originally posted by stephenC
IDid any one find the "Flight of the Phoenix" ads annoying in the windowbox format? On my 60" widescreen display, the image of the movie was surrounded by black. Yes, I understand why this is so. I just find it annoying. Someday, these ads will be in HD.

I found them intriguing. Never seen anything like this before. Looks like they created a whole series of ads for this new flick designed to be played during a single broadcast hour, complete with "commentary" by the two principle stars. And, at the ad rates commanded by Lost, an expensive proposition. What, were there 3 of these? Looks like they're trying different approaches to keep viewers tuned in during the commercials. Worked with me last night.

Originally posted by stephenC
I thought it was interesting that Jack was unshaven in his flashbacks. Of course, he can't shave for the flashbacks and then be unshaven for the island scenes. Just interesting continuity tidbit.

Did any one find the "Flight of the Phoenix" ads annoying in the windowbox format? On my 60" widescreen display, the image of the movie was surrounded by black. Yes, I understand why this is so. I just find it annoying. Someday, these ads will be in HD.

That's because they were letterboxed. On the SD broadcast, they just had the top and bottom black. When they go to commercials you have the black bars on each side. When there is letterbox material, you will have the black bars above and below. That is why you get the "windowbox" look.

I willl admit to watching the first of the 'Phoenix' ads.... but I was too involved in the 'Lost' episode to watch any of the rest... Thank god for HD-TiVo!

Also, I understand why the letterbox format for the ad causes the black bars... But why can't they upconvert/zoom the ad into a full 16:9 frame on the digital/HD broadcast? obviously this wouldn't effect their SD braodcast, and would make us HD viewers a little more intrested in watching their ads...

Originally posted by stephenC
I thought it was interesting that Jack was unshaven in his flashbacks. Of course, he can't shave for the flashbacks and then be unshaven for the island scenes. Just interesting continuity tidbit. Another grooming continuity tidbit is Shannon's doo compared to all the other survivors. Her hair is perfect and appears like she just stepped out of a beauty parlor.

Clearly Shannon is one who would spend the majority of her time grooming herself....

Just like Jack is one who would only shave when he really needs to... kinda like me... ;)

Originally posted by tall1
Another grooming continuity tidbit is Shannon's doo compared to all the other survivors. Her hair is perfect and appears like she just stepped out of a beauty parlor.

The other one I constantly notice is Hurley's sweat rings. From one camera angle to the next they are continuously shrinking and growing.

Anyone else notice that when Walt and Hurley were playing backgammon, and Walt was getting lucky, that he was the "white" stones, ie good, vs Hurley's "black", or evil. Wonder if that either a) foreshadowed good overcoming evil when they were able to resuscitate Charley or b) that Hurley could end up being a bad guy.

I mean he WAS the one doing the census of everyone, and was is Sawyer that said something to him like "well who's counting you?" That question was never answered, so it could be that Hurley's got something to do with it. I dont remember, but could we verify that Hurley was on the plane or not in the first couple episodes, was he spotted? If he wasn't, that could be a major clue. If he was on the plane, he still could have something to do with it.

You always feel like you're reading into things too much, but with a show like Lost, the more you read into the clues, the closer to the truth you probably are, which is what i love!

I did notice that... (about the backgammon game)

I don't recall it ever being verifiable that Hurley was seen on the plane....

The plug for next week said, "Tune in to the two hour premier to catch the secrets you missed the first time around..."

JayDog, that doesnt mean they reveal anything new, its just you always spot things you missed the first time around... Like NBC's old "if you havent seen it, its new to you" thing when they were doing reruns of Friends and other shows...

It would take a LONG time though to go back through this forum and read up on the things other people saw in each episode and try to spot them the second time around.

Do you guys thing they'll show back-to-back episodes each Wednesday until the 5th, or would it be just this next week?

Originally posted by snowcat
From this episode, you would have to believe that Ethan was not working alone. I don't see how one person could kidnap two people (and then fight Jack with them not around). Also, I don't see how one person could tie Charlie way up in that tree. It wasn't like there was a ladder around. :confused:

Right ... there's at least one other character (the glasses dude) that just sort of showed up out of nowhere a few episodes back (golfing ep.) Darned suspicious if you ask me ;)

Originally posted by ucsbgaucho
Do you guys thing they'll show back-to-back episodes each Wednesday until the 5th, or would it be just this next week? "Walkabout" and "White Rabbit" are scheduled back-to-back for Dec. 22nd, but I don't see "Tabula Rusa" anywhere. Hmmmmm.

Besides commercials which are not in HD, another pet peeve is the opening credit sequence and the previous highlights.

So shows like NYPD Blue have HD for the show itself but the opening sequence and the "previously on..." are in SD with black bars.

What's up with that?

ABC has revised their plans from a few weeks ago. They are now planning on re-running ALL the episodes. The next new episode is scheduled for February.

The schedule as I have read so far includes 2 per night for the next 3 weeks. Beyond that, I don't know.

http://www.tvtome.com/Lost/index.html

Originally posted by wco81
Besides commercials which are not in HD, another pet peeve is the opening credit sequence and the previous highlights.

So shows like NYPD Blue have HD for the show itself but the opening sequence and the "previously on..." are in SD with black bars.

What's up with that?

I know my "Lost" screen always comes up in HD. Is that the sequence you're talking about?

I was hoping they would rerun everything, because I had to record and watch the first few eps in SD. It was on opposite Smallville, which was my choice to watch in HD. Now, with an HD DVR in place, I can watch all the eps of Lost in HD, including the ones I taped but never got around to watching.

WHAT !! Why does American TV do this, you get into a show and then you have a wait TWO MONTHS to see what happens next!! I am tempted not to watch it in protest. Its like they just started CSI:NY and it was a repeat last night, WHY ??? The BBC would never do this.

Originally posted by hefe
ABC has revised their plans from a few weeks ago. They are now planning on re-running ALL the episodes. The next new episode is scheduled for February.

The schedule as I have read so far includes 2 per night for the next 3 weeks. Beyond that, I don't know.

http://www.tvtome.com/Lost/index.html

Lost is a difficult show to produce, I would think, with all the location shooting in Hawaii. The initial order was 13 episodes. They didn't know the show would be such a hit, it's not an established show.

I think they're taking the time off to
a) Ramp up the production
b) Get the extra viewers who weren't watching from the start, who wouldn't if they couldn't.

It's not how it always works out...

Originally posted by ucsbgaucho
JayDog, that doesnt mean they reveal anything new, its just you always spot things you missed the first time around...
Obviously that's what I meant... Knowing what we know now about the characters, to watch the first few episodes again may shed some light on things that could have been overlooked...

Although with all of the specualtion/posts in this thread, I doubt we missed much... ;)

BTW, I think the 'others' (which includes Ethan) are on steroids... Ethan clearly has some super-human strength.....

Maybe that's what the 'virus' is that the French women warned about... Steroids gone bad.. :D

I still think its ridiculous, how is one supposed to stay interested in it. Its not like, say, the X-Files which are individually contained episodes, its a series. I have no interest in watching the repeats so more than likely I will have forgotten about the whole thing come february. I just lost respect for ABC, I have not watched many TV drama's since I arrived here and by the looks of it I won't watch many more. Shame as I was enjoying it. Hopefully hockey will start soon and I will have something else to watch.

I don't know how you Americans put up with this stuff!

Originally posted by hefe
Lost is a difficult show to produce, I would think, with all the location shooting in Hawaii. The initial order was 13 episodes. They didn't know the show would be such a hit, it's not an established show.

I think they're taking the time off to
a) Ramp up the production
b) Get the extra viewers who weren't watching from the start, who wouldn't if they couldn't.

It's not how it always works out...

I think they're not showing new episodes because people are busy during the holidays - just like they don't show new programs on Thanksgiving or Christmas (usually). And the show is a big cult hit, and they want to give people who joined from the middle after hearing about it a chance to catch up on what happened in the beginning.

I know I'll be watching next week - I didn't catch the whole first episode. It's nice to go back and watch, too. There'll be a lot of stuff I'll catch this time around. I don't have a PVR, or HD PVR for that matter.

I also agree that they may need time to film, especially because the stars may need at least a little time off for the holidays.

Who knows...
But anyway, it's like a little cliffhanger - we get to this big discovery (the metal found by Boone and Locke - maybe the roof to an underground something, hidden by rocks and dirt), and we have to wait in anticipation to see what happens next.

Something I've been meaning to bring up for awhile now: Did the "woman" ever SAY she was FROM France ?!?!? I know she was speaking French...but could she not have been Canadian....and Ethan saying he was from "Ontario" would make sense for him being Alex.

Man this show gives me a headache from thinking too much :D

Also---Locke and the "it's going to rain in about a minute.....give or take a few seconds" line. Earlier in the season when it started "raining" (and Locke once again held his arms out and looked skyward) did anything happen RIGHT after that (i.e the big mechanical monster tearing up the jungle)?? Because after it started "raining" last night, Ethan magically appeared and kicked Jack's arse!

Anyone?


:confused:

Originally posted by tall1
Another grooming continuity tidbit is Shannon's doo compared to all the other survivors. Her hair is perfect and appears like she just stepped out of a beauty parlor.

If we're going to talk about grooming - as someone who shaves his head on a regular basis, I can tell you that Locke's head would no longer be so clean shaven after 10-12 days.

Jaypb, good catch with the French woman, no one's mentioned that yet. That's a great idea though, I was thinking for awhile that Ethan (or whomever from the cast was going to be the one not on the plane) could be Alex, but now that you mentioned that, I'm more convinced you are right. She spoke English without too much of an accent, which would be more likely if she was from Canada than a native-French-speaker from Paris.

Originally posted by Rufhausen
If we're going to talk about grooming - as someone who shaves his head on a regular basis, I can tell you that Locke's head would no longer be so clean shaven after 10-12 days.

I'm thinking that John Locke has the cutlery to take care of his head on a minute to minute basis.....

:D

Maybe Locke's just bald on top, so he has no hair to grow...

Who's to say Locke doesn't suffer from male baldness?!? ;)

And I love the Idea that the French Women could be originally from Canada. I, too, have wondered if Ethan is truly Alex (the lost son of Rouseau).

Another thing that is tripping me out...

If you were to go back in this thread to the point where the 'Ethan' character is introduced, you would find some spoilers that I had posted that included some info on the upcoming episode...

Originally when I worte the spoilers I kept referring to 'Ethan' as Lance... Somehow I had Lance stuck in my head, and only after reading info from TVTome did I realize that his name was actually Ethan...

And Hurley seemed to think his name was Lance at first too?!? Freakin' Twilight Zone man... :D

<EDIT>
Okay, I was just trippin'... :D
I did have his name wrong, but It wasn't Lance...
But if you read that post, it is the first time that Ethan is brought up in this forum, and my spoiler on the linked post below indicates my original suspicion that Ethan is really Alex...
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4682663#post4682663

Christmas I can understand, but then why not resume in January ?


Originally posted by cyberbri
I think they're not showing new episodes because people are busy during the holidays - just like they don't show new programs on Thanksgiving or Christmas (usually). And the show is a big cult hit, and they want to give people who joined from the middle after hearing about it a chance to catch up on what happened in the beginning.

Originally posted by danellis06460
WHAT !! Why does American TV do this, you get into a show and then you have a wait TWO MONTHS to see what happens next!! I am tempted not to watch it in protest. Its like they just started CSI:NY and it was a repeat last night, WHY ??? The BBC would never do this.

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I still think its ridiculous, how is one supposed to stay interested in it. Its not like, say, the X-Files which are individually contained episodes, its a series. I have no interest in watching the repeats so more than likely I will have forgotten about the whole thing come february. I just lost respect for ABC, I have not watched many TV drama's since I arrived here and by the looks of it I won't watch many more. Shame as I was enjoying it. Hopefully hockey will start soon and I will have something else to watch.

I don't know how you Americans put up with this stuff!


Hey... don't chastise us Americans... we like our Big Box stores, McDonald's hamburgers and Prime Time TV!!! You should watch some afternoon television programming like: Oprah, Jerry Springer and Judge Judy to get some examples that are more indicative of what our culture is really like!!!:eek:

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Who's to say Locke doesn't suffer from male baldness?!? ;)


I don't mean to split hairs :p , but even "bald" men have hair above the ears and in back.
Let's face it - the reason us bald(ing) guys shave our heads is to lessen the contrast between the bald part and the other (although I'd never go back to having a full head of hair even if I could!).

Sorry, I was not trying to chastise, I guess things are done differently around here. The networks seem to want to suck every single viewer they can in at the expense of any kind of continuity. I have lived here quite a while but until I got a HD set recently I didnt watch much network drama programming, it was mostly sport, documentaries or films.

In the UK, at least when I lived there, drama's were on weekly, same timespot all of the time. If a series proved popular then they would repeat its run at a later time during the year, so people who missed it first time around could watch it. They didnt try to pound you into submission to watch other network programs every break too, I am so glad I have my DVR so I can FF through all that rubbish.

Originally posted by optivity
Hey... don't chastise us Americans... we like our Big Box stores, McDonald's hamburgers and Prime Time TV!!! You should watch some afternoon television programming like: Oprah, Jerry Springer and Judge Judy to get some examples that are more indicative of what our culture is really like!!!:eek:

Interesting tidbit I just read somewhere else...
(not a spoiler...and not sure if it's been brought up before..)

The first season will depict their first 40 days on the island, with each episode covering roughly 48 hours (except the 2-hour pilot which only covers their first 24 hours). The Biblical reference (40 days) is no accident.

I never went to Sunday school... what's the biblical reference all about?

Hehe, America is the only place that you could read about, in the paper, a fast-food chain (Hardee's, owned by the same place that owns Carls Jr) has introduced a 2/3 lb bacon burger with 107 grams of fat and over 1400 calories.

Yeah, I dont get why the show wouldnt resume on the 5th, opening up for Alias. Seems like a great way to start off getting new viewers for both shows. But also, February is sweeps month so maybe they want to get the high viewer turnout to see the "all new" episodes that will debut.

danellis06460... I hope you realize I was only kidding. That's why I threw in the Judge Judy & eek! face. Unfortunately, many good TV shows have been forced off the air due to the Network's insistence on running repeat episodes, time/day shifting, interrupting regular programming with "special events," etc. A couple of recent examples are the Bernie Mac Show and Stephen's King's Kingdom Hospital. While I'm not placing these shows in the same category as Lost, for those who were interested... the program scheduling was pretty annoying.

Back to Lost...

I've seen it discussed earlier on this thread... But what happened to the Black Woman who was looking for her husband when the Survivors were still at the beach? Her character reminded me of the Oracle from the Matrix.

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Interesting tidbit I just read somewhere else...
(not a spoiler...and not sure if it's been brought up before..)

The first season will depict their first 40 days on the island, with each episode covering roughly 48 hours (except the 2-hour pilot which only covers their first 24 hours). The Biblical reference (40 days) is no accident.

I never went to Sunday school... what's the biblical reference all about? 40 days is a common period of time for transforming events in the Bible. List stolen from http://www.purposedriven.com/content.aspx?id=5283 : [list=1] Noah's life was transformed by 40 days of rain.
Moses was transformed by 40 days on Mount Sinai.
The spies were transformed by 40 days in the Promised Land.
David was transformed by Goliath's 40-day challenge.
Elijah was transformed when God gave him 40 days of strength from a single meal.
The entire city of Nineveh was transformed when God gave them 40 days to change.
Jesus was empowered by 40 days in the wilderness.
The disciples were transformed by 40 days with Jesus after his resurrection.
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Originally posted by optivity
Back to Lost...

I've seen it discussed earlier on this thread... But what happened to the Black Woman who was looking for her husband when the Survivors were still at the beach? Her character reminded me of the Oracle from the Matrix.
She has been in the background for awhile... but she will return in one of the next few episodes when she.... helps one of the other survivors out of a traumatic experience

Not really a give-away spoiler, but it is something... :)

Originally posted by jaypb
I'm thinking that John Locke has the cutlery to take care of his head on a minute to minute basis.....

:D

They have shown him, at least once, shaving with one of his knives.

Originally posted by danellis06460
In the UK, at least when I lived there, drama's were on weekly, same timespot all of the time. If a series proved popular then they would repeat its run at a later time during the year, so people who missed it first time around could watch it. They didnt try to pound you into submission to watch other network programs every break too, I am so glad I have my DVR so I can FF through all that rubbish.

Welcome to a capitalist society pal! ;)

Leela: Didn't you have ads in the 21st century?

Fry: Well sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games... and on buses and milk cartons and t-shirts, and bananas and written on the sky. But not in dreams, no sir-ee.

Originally posted by danellis06460
I still think its ridiculous, how is one supposed to stay interested in it. Its not like, say, the X-Files which are individually contained episodes, its a series. I have no interest in watching the repeats so more than likely I will have forgotten about the whole thing come february. I just lost respect for ABC, I have not watched many TV drama's since I arrived here and by the looks of it I won't watch many more. Shame as I was enjoying it. Hopefully hockey will start soon and I will have something else to watch.

I don't know how you Americans put up with this stuff!

1. Don't hold your breath. Hockey is done.

2. What does respect have to do with anything? I can't say I have any particular respect to lose for ABC. They put on a show I like, or they don't. That's all.

3. Nothing like a little spite to make you give up something you enjoy...

I used to watch the BBC's Dr. Who when it aired here on public television. I got to see each story put together all at once, instead of waiting every week for a new half hour episode like they did on the BBC. (Or 20 minutes without ads.) How could people stand to see so little from week to week?! Talk about excruciatingly slow! ;)

Couple of things...


1. I'm sure there were plenty of razors and shaving cream in the luggage on the plane to last for a while for the men on the island who want to shave. My biggest fear is if they start showing Evangeline Lily with hairy legs and armpits.

2. Did anyone notice what Locke was saying just before they found the buried steel thing? Boone was saying that he thought they were lost, and Locke confidently said "we're not lost." Then Locke said something like "Can't you feel it? It's beautiful." I was sure that Locke was about to walk Boone right into the "others" camp, where we'd see Ethan and Claire. Obviously that didn't happen, but I still think Locke knows a lot more than he lets on.

Let me get this right...Lost is out till February? I thought it was coming back Jan 5th. :( What is the exact date?

Originally posted by JayDog_2
BTW, I think the 'others' (which includes Ethan) are on steroids... Ethan clearly has some super-human strength.....

Maybe that's what the 'virus' is that the French women warned about... Steroids gone bad.. :D

that explains the 4 week absence of the show, they need to start filming Barry Bonds, Marion Jones and Jason Giambi on the island. Ethan takes Claire to them where they dance around the campfire in praise of BALCO

Originally posted by jszafran
but I still think Locke knows a lot more than he lets on.

I have no doubt about that, I think he knows the grand scheme of what the island is all about, but it's details such as what the steel plate is covering are things that are still a mystery to him...

Originally posted by jszafran
Couple of things...


1. I'm sure there were plenty of razors and shaving cream in the luggage on the plane to last for a while for the men on the island who want to shave. My biggest fear is if they start showing Evangeline Lily with hairy legs and armpits.

Hmm... I don't know? I may still find her attractive, hairy pits and all!!!

2. Did anyone notice what Locke was saying just before they found the buried steel thing? Boone was saying that he thought they were lost, and Locke confidently said "we're not lost." Then Locke said something like "Can't you feel it? It's beautiful." I was sure that Locke was about to walk Boone right into the "others" camp, where we'd see Ethan and Claire. Obviously that didn't happen, but I still think Locke knows a lot more than he lets on.

Remember when Locke was hunting during an early episode and something came upon him that seemed to terrify him? I wonder what happened and if it somehow caused Locke to change?

Originally posted by n2blu
When they started playing that music I thought for certain he was a goner. Glad he's not.[/spoiler]

I think I may have been watching TV too long lol...my first thought was "well guess that actor is fired!" ;-)

Originally posted by Iteki
I think I may have been watching TV too long lol...my first thought was "well guess that actor is fired!" ;-)

I have to say I was somewhat disappointed with Kate's reaction to Charlie's premature demise... She was "all tears." I thought her character was "tougher" than that!!!:(

Originally posted by danellis06460
I still think its ridiculous, how is one supposed to stay interested in it. Its not like, say, the X-Files which are individually contained episodes, its a series. I have no interest in watching the repeats so more than likely I will have forgotten about the whole thing come february. I just lost respect for ABC, I have not watched many TV drama's since I arrived here and by the looks of it I won't watch many more. Shame as I was enjoying it. Hopefully hockey will start soon and I will have something else to watch.

I don't know how you Americans put up with this stuff!

And we wear white tennis shoes with our blue jeans! Shocking!!! :-)

Originally posted by Iteki
And we wear white tennis shoes with our blue jeans! Shocking!!! :-)

Have you ever seen a middle aged European man in a speedo or woman in her thong bikini? Nasty...:eek:

at least we don't eat french fries with mayonnaise... although I guess that's more of a dutch deal...

(Actually it is pretty good, but only when it is authentic dutch style)

-Not sure why I posted this, except I think the 'Pulp Fiction' thread just reminded me of the opening sequence to that movie... :)

Originally posted by Rufhausen
If we're going to talk about grooming - as someone who shaves his head on a regular basis, I can tell you that Locke's head would no longer be so clean shaven after 10-12 days.

If we continue with the theory that what they want or expect to happen, happens, I immediately thought back to the matrix and how they look in the Matrix is different than they look in real life--its how they imagine or think they look (i.e Neo with hair, no black inputs)

A few comments:

- Where the heck was Kate when Ethan was kicking Jack's butt? It took them two about 10 seconds to climb that hill, and about 2 for him to fall down it. It seemed like Ethan and Jack were fighting for quite a while...I kept waiting for Kate to leap on Ethan's back...but she took her sweet time getting back down.

- If ABC really wanted to mess with our heads, they should insert some "never before seen" footage into the reruns over the next couple of weeks...make the real hard-core watch them again, just to see what was added.

- What about the tree-stomping whatever it is? That had me real intruiged the first episode....and nothing ever since...everyone goes traipsing about the jungle with nary a thought of something that threw the pilot 40 feet into a tree.

Cowards. Way too predictable. When I saw Charlie hanging up there by the neck, I snickered and said outloud, "Yeah, right. Like they're going to kill off one of the main characters. You watch, he'll be revived."

Such enough....he was. Just imagine what the reaction would have been if he truly died . . . permanently. Now that would have been shocking! Very UNpredictable.

Yes, a lot of people would have been upset, but I would have been very amazed at the level of courage of the writers. These "faux" deaths that you know won't really happen, are rather childish.

Be braver. In fact, if they really want to be brave. KILL OFF JACK -- next episode. That will get these forums going!

Originally posted by fhall1
- What about the tree-stomping whatever it is? That had me real intruiged the first episode....and nothing ever since...everyone goes traipsing about the jungle with nary a thought of something that threw the pilot 40 feet into a tree.

Locke seems to have made some kind of peace with it. Since he had that revelation several episodes back, we've heard nothing about it. So, as optivity mentions, something unseen (small, by the direction of his gaze) has scared him, and something unseen (large, by the direction of his gaze) has pleased him. One would presume they are two different things.

Originally posted by ricwhite
Cowards. Way too predictable. When I saw Charlie hanging up there by the neck, I snickered and said outloud, "Yeah, right. Like they're going to kill off one of the main characters. You watch, he'll be revived."

Such enough....he was. Just imagine what the reaction would have been if he truly died . . . permanently. Now that would have been shocking! Very UNpredictable.
JJ Abrams has indicated in interviews that one of the main characters will die in the first season.

My first thought about the Charlie scene was, "Well, I guess we know who dies!"

My thought after he was revived was, "He's going to be a drooling vegetable now!"

Originally posted by jszafran
Couple of things...


1. I'm sure there were plenty of razors and shaving cream in the luggage on the plane to last for a while for the men on the island who want to shave.Not to mention plenty of little soaps and shampoos from various hotel rooms people may have been staying in. Of course, they may have to kiss Sawyer to get them...

Originally posted by JayDog_2
JJ Abrams has indicated in interviews that one of the main characters will die in the first season. The season ain't over yet.

ABC has revised their plans from a few weeks ago. They are now planning on re-running ALL the episodes. The next new episode is scheduled for February.
Contrary to what others have bemoaned here, I think this is great! I don't have TiVo, so this will give me a chance to watch all these episodes again and see all the little things I missed the first time around.

And maybe, just maybe, D* and ABC will reach an agreement by February, and those of us who can't get HD locals will get to see the new episodes in HD!

—Dan

Speaking of Sawyer... I have been pleased to see that his character is becoming more likable... I was sure he was going to start some s*** with Sayid when they were alone... But the fact that he didn't even threaten him necessarily, I thought that was cool of him... I think he may have wanted to, but actually felt some sympathy for Sayid (Even though he would never have admitted it, and maybe the real reason was he knew he had nothing to gain from it except for revenge....)

From this episode, you would have to believe that Ethan was not working alone.
Around the campfire, Charlie did say: "all they wanted was Claire."

Emphasis on the "they".

—Dan

Originally posted by hefe
1. Don't hold your breath. Hockey is done.

I have always been an enternal optimist.


2. What does respect have to do with anything? I can't say I have any particular respect to lose for ABC. They put on a show I like, or they don't. That's all.


Because they are trying to squeeze every single viewer to their network without any consideration for the people already watching it.


3. Nothing like a little spite to make you give up something you enjoy...


Not spite really, I just may or may not have any interest in it in 2 months time, I dont have any interest in watching the repeats.


I used to watch the BBC's Dr. Who when it aired here on public television. I got to see each story put together all at once, instead of waiting every week for a new half hour episode like they did on the BBC. (Or 20 minutes without ads.) How could people stand to see so little from week to week?! Talk about excruciatingly slow! ;)

I was a big Dr Who fan when I was younger, they always left you with a cliffhanger but the point was you only had to wait a week to find out the outcome, not two months! I think the episodes were probably about 25 minutes, there are no ads on the beeb like PBS.

Anyway I wasnt trying to make this an anti American tirade, far from it, in this case I just don't agree with what ABC are doing, maybe all the networks do it I just think there is a better way. Maybe thats why its not on in the UK yet, when they do show it it will be straight through but I guess they wont do it until all the episodes are made.

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Speaking of Sawyer... I have been pleased to see that his character is becoming more likable... I was sure he was going to start some s*** with Sayid when they were alone... But the fact that he didn't even threaten him necessarily, I thought that was cool of him... I think he may have wanted to, but actually felt some sympathy for Sayid (Even though he would never have admitted it, and maybe the real reason was he knew he had nothing to gain from it except for revenge....)

I predict they will become "great pals" by the end of the first season.

I wince when I see pictures of me in speedos!

Originally posted by optivity
Have you ever seen a middle aged European man in a speedo or woman in her thong bikini? Nasty...:eek:

Originally posted by danellis06460
Not spite really, I just may or may not have any interest in it in 2 months time, I dont have any interest in watching the repeats. I guess you would have lost interest anyway when the show takes a summer hiatus.

Originally posted by danellis06460
I wince when I see pictures of me in speedos!
I wince when I think about my Disco days, dancing (or at least attempting to) & doing what I refer to as the Windmill... arms flailing all about!!!

So when will the show be back on? date?

Originally posted by paul watkins
So when will the show be back on? date? If you look 10 weeks out, the airdate for the 12th ep would be Feb. 23rd.

Originally posted by tall1
If you look 10 weeks out, the airdate for the 12th ep would be Feb. 23rd.

FEB 23RD!:eek:

That's pretty bold of ABC. Should give the other networks plenty of time to come up with something that will compete with it in the same time slot. Perhaps a knockoff of some sort but with quicker plot development and no extended hiatus.

Wonder how many viewers will lose interest after +2 months.

Originally posted by optivity
Remember when Locke was hunting during an early episode and something came upon him that seemed to terrify him? I wonder what happened and if it somehow caused Locke to change? My theory: The "sickness" took him, and he is now possessed by whatever spirits rule the island. He's one of, or at least controlled by, the "others,' just as Ethan is.

I think Charlie's improbable resurrection means he's likely been possessed, too.

Originally posted by Dynot
FEB 23RD!:eek:

That's pretty bold of ABC. Should give the other networks plenty of time to come up with something that will compete with it in the same time slot. Perhaps a knockoff of some sort but with quicker plot development and no extended hiatus.

Wonder how many viewers will lose interest after +2 months.

It should be early Feb. They'll do some double episode nights.

Originally posted by Dynot
FEB 23RD!:eek:

That's pretty bold of ABC. Should give the other networks plenty of time to come up with something that will compete with it in the same time slot. Perhaps a knockoff of some sort but with quicker plot development and no extended hiatus.

Wonder how many viewers will lose interest after +2 months.

I don't believe our interest will be diminished, the hiatus will probably do more to "whet our appetites" for the new episodes.

Lost was originally purchased for 13 episodes... I'm wondering if once ABC decided to extend this show for a full season (22 episodes) the production required some additional time to further develop and shoot the additional episodes?

Originally posted by hefe
It should be early Feb. They'll do some double episode nights. If they doubled up on 3 Wednesdays or ran one ep on Wed. and one on Sat. for 3 weeks, they would be able to air the 12th ep on Feb. 2nd, which would be the beginning of sweeps. I hope they do that instead of playing one ep per Wednesday.

I can't imagine them not having the new episodes ready for airing during sweeps month in February. They are not going to let their 2nd highest rated show be in repeat mode during sweeps...but that is still rediculous to take almost a 2 month hiatus...it'll still be intersting to wathc old episodes for a while to see some things that were probably obvious that some of us missed....

I have a feeling someone will need to keep bumping this thread over the next several weeks to keep it from falling off onto pages 3 and beyond... :)

Maybe I'll post pictures of a skantly-clad Kate some more... or Jennifer Garner, in preparation of Alias... Although we'll probably start our own Alias thread when that show starts...

They will almost certainly have 4 new episodes ready for February sweeps. After that, there may be another break, since they need to make sure they still have 4 new episodes ready for May sweeps. Alias will be up and running by then and one of the strategies appears to be to use the large audience for Lost to bolster that ratings-challenged show, hopefully giving ABC a clear ratings winner on Wednesdays.

Only shows in trouble end up on hiatus during sweeps months. Lost definitely ain't in trouble. Although Claire appears to be! :)

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Maybe I'll post pictures of a skantly-clad Kate some more...
Why wait?;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/fansite4dom/Lost/963695.jpg

Here you go.

Originally posted by danellis06460
Anyway I wasnt trying to make this an anti American tirade, far from it, in this case I just don't agree with what ABC are doing, maybe all the networks do it I just think there is a better way. Maybe thats why its not on in the UK yet, when they do show it it will be straight through but I guess they wont do it until all the episodes are made.

Don't worry, I'm sure that the overwhelming majority reading this are able to realize that saying, "I don't know how you Americans put up with this", isn't an insult.

But to answer your question, to a large extent, we don't put up with it anymore. The networks use to capture almost every TV viewer during prime time. Now its down to half (?) that. And of those who are watching, a whole bunch of them time-shift the programming. As someone said, almost all programming decisions can be traced back to Sweeps. I'd just about bet my paycheck on Lost returning the first week of the Sweeps period.

Originally posted by DennisMileHi
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/fansite4dom/Lost/963695.jpg

Here you go.

Thank you.

This photo is very disruptive viewing at work. Funny, I never had a thang for brunettes...Sydney and now Kate have changed all that ;)

Mmmmm.... nice... :)

(Imagining picture with no bra... :D)

On Tuesday night after the Late Show on CBS finished airing a Lovelines commercial was broadcast with none other than our favorite spokesgal, Evangline Lilly. I called but they said she was Lost.

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Mmmmm.... nice... :)

(Imagining picture with no bra... :D)
They would have to give her a BIG BUMP in salary for that!!!;)

Originally posted by tall1
This photo is very disruptive viewing at work. Funny, I never had a thang for brunettes...Sydney and now Kate have changed all that
funny... I've always had a "thing" for brunettes... But I like blondes & red-heads too!!!:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/fansite4dom/Lost/963694.jpg

This one may be more to some people's liking.

You're killing me!
:D

Actually I like the first one better... more for the imagination!

I'd like some more, please sir!

Are these promotional shots since Lost has aired or before she was discovered?

BTW, she did a pretty credible job in the last episode with the crying when they thought Charlie was dead. Not bad for her first acting job.

Or in the words of Kevin Bacon in 'Animal House' ...

"Thank you sir, may I have another!"

Originally posted by wco81

BTW, she did a pretty credible job in the last episode with the crying when they thought Charlie was dead. Not bad for her first acting job.

Yes, I was impressed as well, to go from midnight phone commercials to that acting job she did Wed. is quite a feat, besides looking good I think she has some real natural talent for acting.

Now we have to wonder what Ethan and the "others" want with Claire's baby. Charlie said they wanted Claire, but I'm pretty sure it's not HER they're after.

At some point they really need to start giving us some answers. I like a good mystery but it gets a little aggravating when you get more and more stuff to wonder about but no solution in sight.

I could be mistaken, but I thouht Charlie said "All they wanted was the baby" not "Claire" ... Any TIVO/DVR confimation?

S

Originally posted by durl
At some point they really need to start giving us some answers. I like a good mystery but it gets a little aggravating when you get more and more stuff to wonder about but no solution in sight.
Yes, but if they 'solved' the mystery... the show would be over!

So what are they going to do, string us along for 5 years or until they have enough episodes for syndication, which is where the big money is?

Like I said, if they move at a snails pace on the present and just keep using flashbacks all the time, it'll get old.

I don't know if anyone has posted this, but it will give us something to do while we wait for new eps.

http://lostmultimedia.beyondgrey.com/

Here is a quote from the news section of that site.

More viewers than ever found "Lost" Wednesday as the ABC thriller soared to its best ratings yet -- crushing NBC�s much-hyped Clay Aiken special in the process.

Midseason finale of "Lost," which (temporarily) killed off a main character, averaged a stunning 18.9 million viewers and a 7/19 among adults 18-49, according to prelim national Nielsen data. In addition to achieving personal best numbers, "Lost" beat the young adults scores of CBS, NBC and Fox in the 8 p.m. timeslot and gave network TV its best 8 p.m. drama demos since the series finale of "Beverly Hills, 90210" in 2000

News like this should secure a 2nd season if the writers can keep people guessing on not get too far from center. I don't think prime time ABC watchers are ready for anything that might call for some imagination.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v46/justsmile/pictures/maggie-grace-4.jpg

Shannon is not too bad either.

Originally posted by keenan
Yes, I was impressed as well, to go from midnight phone commercials to that acting job she did Wed. is quite a feat, besides looking good I think she has some real natural talent for acting.

Yeah, it is a rather meteoric rise considering how many other hotties there are running around Hollywood with far more acting "chops". Hmmmm, can you say "casting couch"? :D

couch? or did you mean coach...

or maybe you meant sofa? ;)

And yes, Shannon is looking pretty good too... I first took notice of this on the episode where she was sun bathing in her bikini... and after asking, someone here was nice enough to post that picture earlier in this thread too...

Take Claire (Emilie de Ravin) off the island, lose the belly and she cleans up real fine. I met he one and she is the tiny little thing about 5-2 and gorgeous!

Here is another and more can be seen here.

http://www.emilie-online.com/

ummm, I just wanted to let you know that I am offended by these pictures of these hot women. I have chosen to call the PTC and ask them to start a petition to take Lost off the air because these chicks look good and they show skin.

:)
Kate's getting some competition!

Here's one for the women... :)
http://www.iansomerhalder.net/Pictures/OtherModeling/is002.jpg

Wait, are there any women here? ;)

When Lost returns from hiatus… my theory is Jack and Kate will become further connected as they remain on the Lost Island. Suddenly a new character appears who is the "antithesis" of Kate.

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0320691/Ss/0320691/underworld_new1_final.jpg?path (http://www.imdb.com)

Oh no… it’s Kate Beckinsale! But I’m not sure of her character’s name?

With another Kate on his hands... what will Jack do now?

Originally posted by optivity
[B
Oh no… it’s Kate Beckinsale! But I’m not sure of her character’s name?

With another Kate on his hands... what will Jack do now? [/B]

That's easy, as long as KB is wearing that black leather it's a no-brainer..:)

Wait, are there any women here?

Well, I'm a woman and I've been reading this thread from it's beginning. I have to be careful when I check the latest postings because if I'm in a public place and one of you have posted a pic of Kate, other people around me might wonder WTF I'm doing. So, I appreciate JayDog's thoughtfullness on posting one of Boone, but my favs are Jack and Sawyer.

Originally posted by drsimnal
Well, I'm a woman and I've been reading this thread from it's beginning. I have to be careful when I check the latest postings because if I'm in a public place and one of you have posted a pic of Kate, other people around me might wonder WTF I'm doing. So, I appreciate JayDog's thoughtfullness on posting one of Boone, but my favs are Jack and Sawyer.
Don't overlook Sayid. He's a pretty cool dude too!

Don't overlook Sayid. He's a pretty cool dude too!

I totally agree. He'd be third, then Boone. Eye candy for both the women and the men in the audience, it had to be a hit!

Do we know for sure how Jack's dad died? Do we know exactly what horrible deed Kate did to be in the custody of a US marshal? Is it possible that Kate may have played a hand in Jack's dad's death?

Originally posted by auburn97
Do we know for sure how Jack's dad died? Do we know exactly what horrible deed Kate did to be in the custody of a US marshal? Is it possible that Kate may have played a hand in Jack's dad's death?

I would find that unlikely. It would have been an Australian matter then, not a matter for a US Marshal. I got the impression she was on the run from something she did in the US (hence the marshal). He finally caught up to her and was flying her home for trial?

Originally posted by Iteki
I would find that unlikely. It would have been an Australian matter then, not a matter for a US Marshal. I got the impression she was on the run from something she did in the US (hence the marshal). He finally caught up to her and was flying her home for trial?

I would also find it unlikely, but you never know with Lost. Maybe the car accident victim was Kate's sister and she had done something to Jack's father in the states already (vandalism, threats, who knows), and followed him to Australia?

Unlikely I'll admit.

:p

Originally posted by auburn97
Do we know for sure how Jack's dad died?
No, we don't know for sure... but we can guess...

Assuming what we know:
Jack's dad was an alcoholic... spent a lot of time at bars/etc...
Jack had his dad removed as a Doctor...
Mother was disgusted with Jack for what he did....

We can speculate that:
Jack's dad drank himself to death...
or some other death related to alcohol... car crash, violence, who knows...

Originally posted by drsimnal
Well, I'm a woman and I've been reading this thread from it's beginning. I have to be careful when I check the latest postings because if I'm in a public place and one of you have posted a pic of Kate, other people around me might wonder WTF I'm doing.
Glad to hear it... I've always wondered if there were many women reading this, with all the 'guy' comments/etc... ;)
I know what my wife would say if she were reading this forum...
"What a bunch of men!"
So, I appreciate JayDog's thoughtfullness on posting one of Boone, but my favs are Jack and Sawyer.
Just trying to keep things even, although admittedly I wasn't too into looking for sexy 'man' pictures... :D

I do know that in the cover story article in Entertainment, it mentioned that all these people on the plane were related/connected, either directly or indirectly, before getting on the plane...

Originally posted by auburn97
Do we know for sure how Jack's dad died? Do we know exactly what horrible deed Kate did to be in the custody of a US marshal?

jack's dad died of a heart attack. that's what the coroner implied when jack went to pick his body up at the morgue.

the guy that had kate in custody wasn't necessarily a u.s. marshal. we don't know for sure what his relationship to her was. the gun & badge that sawyer took off the dead u.s. marshal on the plane were from a guy who died DURING the crash, not the guy who had kate in custody.

Originally posted by DennisMileHi
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/fansite4dom/Lost/963695.jpg


are those bees in her shirt?

i thought they were c's.

Originally posted by JayDog_2
No, we don't know for sure... but we can guess...

Assuming what we know:
Jack's dad was an alcoholic... spent a lot of time at bars/etc...
Jack had his dad removed as a Doctor...
Mother was disgusted with Jack for what he did....

We can speculate that:
Jack's dad drank himself to death...
or some other death related to alcohol... car crash, violence, who knows...

I thought the doctor at the morgue said he was found in an alley and liver failure was the COD?

I don't remember what the coroner said... but liver failure/drinking yourself to death... same thing... ;)

And my statement that we don't know for sure how Jack's dad died was more in connection to what events lead to his death... In other words, is there more to the story that leads Jacks father to the alley where he was found dead?

But yes, we pretty much know what the C.O.D. was...

Gotcha..:)

They'll be re-airing the shows, so we'll get to go back and catch all the finer details.

Originally posted by Iteki
I would find that unlikely. It would have been an Australian matter then, not a matter for a US Marshal. I got the impression she was on the run from something she did in the US (hence the marshal). He finally caught up to her and was flying her home for trial?

From abc.com:

"Kate, who decides it's time to move on from the Australian farm. But when she accepts a ride from Ray to the train station, she learns that he is planning on turning her in to the authorities. He saw her picture at the post office and he really needs that reward money. Kate looks in the side mirror to see the Marshal, hot on her heels. In a desperate attempt to get away, Kate jerks the wheel and crashes the truck off the road. Saving the farmer from the truck costs her a chance to escape and she is captured by the Marshal."

One theme on the message boards at abc.com is ...

offending text removed per Gary McCoy's & PJO1966 insistence...:eek:

All of those have already been mentioned here. But they are good ideas.

Asked and answered in this thread many weeks ago. The makers of Lost have stated that they ARE NOT DEAD.

Noobs need to read the whole thread to avoid Foot-In-Mouth disease.

Gary

Originally posted by Gary McCoy
Noobs need to read the whole thread to avoid Foot-In-Mouth disease.

Gary
120 pages of threads? I don't think so...

But thanks for your "insightful" response!:eek:

Originally posted by optivity
120 pages of threads? I don't think so...

But thanks for your "insightful" response!:eek:

If you don't have the time to read through the whole thread, perhaps using the search feature to see if a specific topic has been discussed might be helpful.

*edit* reading that back, it sounded snippy. I was going for helpful...

Originally posted by PJO1966
If you don't have the time to read through the whole thread, perhaps using the search feature to see if a specific topic has been discussed might be helpful.

The search terms:

"lost dead people" returns:

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Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

Ideas?
:eek:

Use the "Search This Thread" feature and enter "dead". You'll come up with 72 replies (now 73 with this one). Go back to the first and read. 72 posts is much more manageable than reading the whole thread.

Originally posted by PJO1966
Use the "Search This Thread" feature and enter "dead". You'll come up with 72 replies (now 73 with this one). Go back to the first and read. 72 posts is much more manageable than reading the whole thread. While I appreciate the opportunity to read 74 less mine, less yours equals 72 posts about "dead" people on the Lost thread, maybe it is easier to remove the portion of the text (see above) that got you and Gary so "lathered" up!

not "lathered up"... just trying to help.

Originally posted by Gary McCoy

Noobs need to read the whole thread to avoid Foot-In-Mouth disease.


:D :D I like that statement, a bit over the top, depending on conditions, but nevertheless, one I will certainly remember and use in the future..:p

Originally posted by optivity
One theme on the message boards at abc.com is ...
I kind of liked this thread. It aplies here, as well: http://forums.go.com/abc/thread?threadID=140828

Originally posted by keenan
I thought the doctor at the morgue said he was found in an alley and liver failure was the COD?

Exact quote:

Doctor:"The police found him in an alley in King's Cross. Our tox screen showed a blood alcohol content which, for a man of his size, probably brought on myocardial infarction -- a sizable and fatal heart attack."

Originally posted by NetworkTV
It aplies here, as well: http://forums.go.com/abc/thread?threadID=140828



:D :D :D

Originally posted by hefe
Exact quote:

Doctor:"The police found him in an alley in King's Cross. Our tox screen showed a blood alcohol content which, for a man of his size, probably brought on myocardial infarction -- a sizable and fatal heart attack."

Thanks, good thing we have an archivist among us. :)

Originally posted by hefe
ABC has revised their plans from a few weeks ago. They are now planning on re-running ALL the episodes. The next new episode is scheduled for February.


If they're trying to build Alias from cult success to mega-hit by piggy backing on Lost, why would ABC spend the month of January showing reruns of Lost instead of new episodes? About the time you think these guys know what they're doing...

Despite the popularity of Lost, there are people who won't watch if they miss the first few episodes. I'm sure they're trying to expand the overall number of viewers. There's enough of a buzz that they probably realize people will also watch for a second time because of all the details and clues that everyone talks about. If the ratings stay high during the rerun period, then they are genuises, and the show will finish even stronger for the rest of the season.

Alias fans who haven't watched Lost may get on board during this time, and vice versa for those checking out the Lost reruns and staying on for Alias. Seems like a win-win for ABC and a way to build even more anticipation for Lost during February sweeps.

Not sure where on that website it says the next new episode is scheduled for Feb. Be careful what you read. Nothing like that has been announced by ABC. Look for an original episode in front on the Alias premier as well as 1/12 and 1/19. This of course in unofficial and always subject to change.

Originally posted by yankeefan
Not sure where on that website it says the next new episode is scheduled for Feb. Be careful what you read. Nothing like that has been announced by ABC. Look for an original episode in front on the Alias premier as well as 1/12 and 1/19. This of course in unofficial and always subject to change.

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/DetailsServlet/showid-24313/epid-0/moduleid-44

Scroll to December 8th.

Almost all new series and many returning shows on every network are given a 13 episode initial order, "Father of the Pride" was the rare exception. You can see the risk of ordering a full season of 22 if the show bombs. If the series is succesful, they will order the remaining 9 episodes. Since "Lost" had instant success, these episodes were ordered way back on 10/20 while they were probably still working on the original 13 episodes. Should not be any delay in delivering these episodes. There will be a couple repeats that run in Jan before sweeps but I will be shocked if there is an actual hiatus from originals.

Has anybody visited alt.tv.lost on Giganews? This was an interesting post:
There's a real place called The Black Rock in the Cook Islands which
happen to be in the South Pacific - right where our Lost herd seems to
have gotten lost.

The Black Rock
The original name was Tuoro, which means ‘Welcome’. According to ancient
belief, this is the departure point or leaping-off point, of souls of
the dead. From here, the souls commence their journey back to the
fatherland, homeland of all Polynesians, Avaiki. Black Rock is also a
popular swimming place.

Here's a creepy little site which gives off a Lost vibe:
http://www.paradisecook.com/travel/blackrock.htm

I wish I hadn't read that.

Originally posted by yankeefan
Almost all new series and many returning shows on every network are given a 13 episode initial order, "Father of the Pride" was the rare exception. You can see the risk of ordering a full season of 22 if the show bombs. If the series is succesful, they will order the remaining 9 episodes. Since "Lost" had instant success, these episodes were ordered way back on 10/20 while they were probably still working on the original 13 episodes. Should not be any delay in delivering these episodes. There will be a couple repeats that run in Jan before sweeps but I will be shocked if there is an actual hiatus from originals.

I have to agree. Reruns through the end of December make sense because the audience will be abnormally small due to the holidays.

But the pairing of Lost and Alias on Wednesday nights has a dual purpose: 1) attract carryover Lost viewers to Alias in the next hour in hopes of elevating Alias beyond cult/lukewarm hit status and 2) lock up a Wednesday night ratings win.

How does repeating Lost episodes through January accomplish either of these? If you're trying to let people who came in mid-season "catch up", why do this during one of the least-watched time frames in all of network TV?

I'll keep my fingers crossed that new episodes will be back on Jan. 12...the week after the 2 hour Alias premier.

Originally posted by htevolution
If you're trying to let people who came in mid-season "catch up", why do this during one of the least-watched time frames in all of network TV? I believe you answered your own question.

Originally posted by htevolution
But the pairing of Lost and Alias on Wednesday nights has a dual purpose: 1) attract carryover Lost viewers to Alias in the next hour in hopes of elevating Alias beyond cult/lukewarm hit status and 2) lock up a Wednesday night ratings win.
I'm a big fan of the TV show Lost and I've never seen an episode of Alias. Based upon the promos I've seen for Alias while watching Lost, it is my intention to see this season's premier of Alias.

I must admit I've had a crush on Jen Garner ever since watching DareDevil. She's pretty hot.

Jeniffer looked pretty good in Daredevil... except for the fake colored eyes, just didn't look right.

And optivity... coming into Alias at Season 4 without seeing any prior episodes might be tough... There's a lot of backstory.... But hopefully this season is written better than last season, so it will be easier for people like you to jump on the Alias bandwagon....

I'd watch flies **** if it were in HD.....Brilliant!!!!

Originally posted by blackngold19
I'd watch flies **** if it were in HD.....Brilliant!!!! I believe that program is on DiscoveryHD right now.

Originally posted by optivity
I'm a big fan of the TV show Lost and I've never seen an episode of Alias. Based upon the promos I've seen for Alias while watching Lost, it is my intention to see this season's premier of Alias.

The first two seasons were top-notch, but I think the show may have lost its way a bit last year for the third. A lot of people felt that way. Hopefully, they'll be back on track this year, and will certainly benefit from the "Lost" lead-in.

As long as they have Sydney dressed in skimpy clothing from time to time... I'm there...

Originally posted by optivity
I'm a big fan of the TV show Lost and I've never seen an episode of Alias. Based upon the promos I've seen for Alias while watching Lost, it is my intention to see this season's premier of Alias.

Since you have some time I would try and find season 1 & even 2 & 3 if you can of Alias I find out who Sindny Bristo is & where she came from. Watching this years eps will make no sence to you. I know some block busters rent series DVDs.

Originally posted by archiguy
The first two seasons were top-notch, but I think the show may have lost its way a bit last year for the third. A lot of people felt that way. Hopefully, they'll be back on track this year, and will certainly benefit from the "Lost" lead-in.

JJ Abrams admitted that they lost their focus for season 3. I am thinking this season should be better. Hoping at least. But as long as Jennifer Garner is running around kicking butts, I'm there.

Interesting article that discusses the writers of both shows...
http://www.indystar.com/articles/1/201888-9631-062.html

Originally posted by archiguy
The first two seasons were top-notch, but I think the show may have lost its way a bit last year for the third. A lot of people felt that way. Hopefully, they'll be back on track this year, and will certainly benefit from the "Lost" lead-in.

I felt that way as well. I see that Isabella Rossellini is due back again this season, but I want Lena Olin, I've always liked that woman..:)

Originally posted by keenan
I felt that way as well. I see that Isabella Rossellini is due back again this season, but I want Lena Olin, I've always liked that woman..:)

I agree. Lena was terrific as Syd's mother. Don't know why she didn't come back for the third season. Heard something about they couldn't "come to terms"; can't imagine why. It's not like her career is exactly flourishing and Alias represents great exposure for her. 'Tis a puzzle.

Originally posted by hefe
Interesting article that discusses the writers of both shows...
http://www.indystar.com/articles/1/201888-9631-062.html I must be a "su..er" for these shows...

it makes sense that writers who worked for Joss Whedon on "Angel" and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" would wind up working on Lost and Alias.

no-one ever looked better doing a "high-kick" than Sarah Michelle Gellar except maybe Eliza Dushku?:)

The Mutant Enemy writers are very talented.

But so help me, if they throw in demons or aliens or as much supernatural mumbo jumbo as Buffy (which I liked a lot), I'm out.

Originally posted by archiguy
It's not like her career is exactly flourishing and Alias represents great exposure for her. 'Tis a puzzle.

Really. Although Romeo Is Bleeding is a great movie, 10 yrs old though...

Lena Olin was a great beauty. An even older movie is Unbearable Lightness of Being.

But she's Swedish. She may not have been in much American shows and movies but we don't know what she's been doing in her native land (unless she moved to the US).

I watched Alias occasionally during the first season... but I couldn't see it in HD at the time. Where can I catch up? Is there a synopsis of the first three seasons online?

I've rented the Alias season1 and season2 boxset DVDs at BlockBuster - its the same 16:9 anamorphic as the HD version.

Originally posted by Syzygy
I watched Alias occasionally during the first season... but I couldn't see it in HD at the time. Where can I catch up? Is there a synopsis of the first three seasons online?

For the Cliff's Notes version, try this:
http://www.tvtome.com/Alias/

Originally posted by wco81
Lena Olin was a great beauty. An even older movie is Unbearable Lightness of Being.

But she's Swedish. She may not have been in much American shows and movies but we don't know what she's been doing in her native land (unless she moved to the US).

She still is in my book, and yes, ULoB is another great work, not to well known among the masses though..

Is this another unfortunate thread merge? The title says, "Lost", but all the talk is about "Alias." Hmmm.... :p

Yeah, the subject of this thread got 'Lost' in the shuffle....

I was thinking we need to start an official 'Alias in HD on ABC' thread pretty soon....

<EDIT>
I took the initiative... ;)
ALIAS - on ABC in HDTV (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=482463)

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Yeah, the subject of this thread got 'Lost' in the shuffle....

I was thinking we need to start an official 'Alias in HD on ABC' thread pretty soon....

<EDIT>
I took the initiative... ;)
ALIAS - on ABC in HDTV (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=482463)

You beat me to it..:D

LOL...

I knew someone else would jump on the opportunity If I didn't first.... ;)

So many Jacks about to converge on prime time... Wonder who would win in a bar-room brawl?

A. Jack Shepard
B. Jack Bristow
C. Jack Bauer

I'm afraid Dr. Shepard wouldn't last long in this company. Not the way Ethan Rom kicked his a** ;)

My money would be on Bristow. He doesn't need a righteous cause in order to be ruthless. He'd likely just kill the other two while they're focused on engaging in a "fair" barroom brawl.

Originally posted by Hounsfield
So many Jacks about to converge on prime time... Wonder who would win in a bar-room brawl?

A. Jack Shepard
B. Jack Bristow
C. Jack Bauer

I'm afraid Dr. Shepard wouldn't last long in this company. Not the way Ethan Rom kicked his a** ;)

Jack Bauer would clean up...against orders of course

Jack Bauer would demolish those posers with Bourne-like efficiency. But he'd feel bad about it later. Might even cry.

Jack Bauer might cry only because he picked a bad day to give up heroin.

Bauer killed his boss 'cause the terrorists told him to. He killed a material witness in the conference room. He's killed, tortured and maimed. He is one bad ass mo fo. Shepard would be hiding under the table.

It's been so long since I watched 24, I was trying to remember who Jack Bauer was! :)

And yes, he could beat the crap out of the other two. Unless Bristow had a gun.
Shephard would be to concerned about the wounds that he would have to tend to afterwards to be of much help in a fight...

Originally posted by hefe
Bauer killed his boss 'cause the terrorists told him to. He killed a material witness in the conference room. He's killed, tortured and maimed. He is one bad ass mo fo. Shepard would be hiding under the table. And don't forget that infamous Jack Bauer line, "I'm gonna need a hacksaw".

Now I'm getting all teary-eyed thinking that it's just a few more weeks until my favorite TV super hero is back to have another really, really bad day for our benefit. Long live the Jack Bauer Power Hour! For one more season, at least.

Like we did with Alias, maybe it's time for someone to start a "24, now in HD!" thread so we don't keep hijacking the "Lost" thread....?

Originally posted by archiguy
Now I'm getting all teary-eyed thinking that it's just a few more weeks until my favorite TV super hero is back to have another really, really bad day for our benefit. Long live the Jack Bauer Power Hour! For one more season, at least.

Like we did with Alias, maybe it's time for someone to start a "24, now in HD!" thread so we don't keep hijacking the "Lost" thread....?

Yeah, it almost makes me miss the useless political discussions we were having back at the midpoint of the thread. At least we were talking about something. :-)

Having no new eps to talk about might sink this thread, so let's keep it afloat.

For the record:

1) Jack has no fighting skills, and even if he did,he's only a week or so removed from a dislocated shoulder. No haymakers for him. My money on a title match would be a Sayid/Sawyer card. My money is on Sayid.

2) I think Ethan* is a BALCO refugee and is juiced. :-) Let's put an asterisk next to his name in all future discussions.

3) I don't believe that Merry can't remember anything from his kidnapping...why else the haunted '1000 yard stare'. And since Jack probably crushed his ribcage with his chest thumping, shouldn't he be lying down? alot?

4) My pet theory on the 'Others' is that they are some sort of genetic engineering science nuts. They keep kidnapping the kids (they took the French lady's kid too). Ethan* may be the product of a little genetic tweaking (maybe we should give him two asterisks?)

5) I think 24 should jump networks to ABC and we could have a Wednesday power night, 24/Lost/Alias on Wednesdays. More murder/mayhem than any other network!

am i in the right thread?? it says "LOST - on ABC in HDTV"

24 is a decent show but man it has to be the most overrated show in the history of television alongside The OC

What's the over/under on the number of episodes before the writers start making it up as they go along? 5,6?

Originally posted by Iteki
3) I don't believe that Merry can't remember anything from his kidnapping...why else the haunted '1000 yard stare'. And since Jack probably crushed his ribcage with his chest thumping, shouldn't he be lying down? alot?
His mind is probably a little 'off' from the dain bramage he suffered due to loss of oxygen for the several minutes (at least?) he was out. And yes, I would think his chest would be heavily bruised at the very least... broken ribs? maybe in reality...

4) My pet theory on the 'Others' is that they are some sort of genetic engineering science nuts. They keep kidnapping the kids (they took the French lady's kid too). Ethan* may be the product of a little genetic tweaking (maybe we should give him two asterisks?)
I totally agree with this theory... It makes the most sense based on what we've seen... a ferocious polar bear - seemed slightly un-natural... The 'virus' that the French women warned Sayid about, the one that took control of the others that she had to kill to keep from getting off the island.... and of course Ethan with his unnatural strength that was certainly implied anyways...

Originally posted by Rakesh.S
am i in the right thread?? it says "LOST - on ABC in HDTV" Oh man, that is hilarious! I have never heard anyone make that joke before when some strayed off topic...we need to get more serious about these shows <rolling eyes>

Just got my VHF antenna hooked up to receive HD signal from ABC affiliate- Can't wait to experience the first episodes again, this time in HD! Hope to catch more nuances that I may have missed.

Originally posted by Iteki
I would find that unlikely. It would have been an Australian matter then, not a matter for a US Marshal. I got the impression she was on the run from something she did in the US (hence the marshal). He finally caught up to her and was flying her home for trial?

My guess is that she was some sort of eco-terrorist.
Probably an 'innoffensive' tree spiker as opposed to someone who blew up a car dealership.
1. She's familiar with the outdoors
2. She spoke wistfully about her father spending time in the outdoors, and how it was his life
3. It's a relatively sympathetic crime, so the viewers can still see her as a good girl.

Originally posted by Rakesh.S
am i in the right thread?? it says "LOST - on ABC in HDTV"

24 is a decent show but man it has to be the most overrated show in the history of television alongside The OC

What's the over/under on the number of episodes before the writers start making it up as they go along? 5,6?

My Gawd, man how dare you say The OC is overrated! :eek: Sure it may be a bit hyped, but it still is a guilty pleasure for me. hehe

Originally posted by Buji
My guess is that she was some sort of eco-terrorist.
Probably an 'innoffensive' tree spiker as opposed to someone who blew up a car dealership.
1. She's familiar with the outdoors
2. She spoke wistfully about her father spending time in the outdoors, and how it was his life
3. It's a relatively sympathetic crime, so the viewers can still see her as a good girl. So her picture is displayed in an Australian Post Office and a US(?) Marshall travels all the way to Australia to capture "an 'innoffensive' tree spiker "? Yeah, right...

Originally posted by optivity
So her picture is displayed in an Australian Post Office and a US(?) Marshall travels all the way to Australia to capture "an 'innoffensive' tree spiker "? Yeah, right...

Maybe she is an un-cooperative witness/participant in a crime who maybe has fled the witness protection program, that is US Marshal purview...

Originally posted by keenan
Maybe she is an un-cooperative witness/participant in a crime who maybe has fled the witness protection program, that is US Marshal purview...

Mr Marshal seemed AWFULLY driven in his pursuit of her, and remember his statements that she was dangerous. (at least from his perspective) I'm guessing homicide, but perhaps she didn't do it, or it was accidental, or in self-defense but noone believed her.

I'm not sure I credit Ethan with unnatural strength- he looks to be several inches taller than Jack, and more heavily built. Jack just took a thrashing rolling down that hill, never mind the other damage he has sustained in the last couple of days. . . and he doesn't really look combat trained. . . I think Ethan just whomped him. ;-)

Originally posted by mdesmarais
I'm not sure I credit Ethan(*) with unnatural strength- he looks to be several inches taller than Jack, and more heavily built. Jack just took a thrashing rolling down that hill, never mind the other damage he has sustained in the last couple of days. . . and he doesn't really look combat trained. . . I think Ethan just whomped him. ;-)

I will still asterisk Ethan* until we have more facts :-)

Just saw a Killer Polar Bear in the spanish comic book the boy was reading. A sign of things to come?

When the japanese man was cutting sushi, they sure did focus on his watch.

Originally posted by Iteki
Mr Marshal seemed AWFULLY driven in his pursuit of her, and remember his statements that she was dangerous. (at least from his perspective) I'm guessing homicide, but perhaps she didn't do it, or it was accidental, or in self-defense but noone believed her.

Well she could be a hostile witness, and that might be what drove the Marshall to act the way he did, but, your guess is equally as plausible, maybe even more so..:)

Originally posted by ftboomer
Just saw a Killer Polar Bear in the spanish comic book the boy was reading. A sign of things to come?


That was one of the first things mentioned in this thread. If you are brave, start reading from the beginning.

Originally posted by mdesmarais
I'm not sure I credit Ethan with unnatural strength- he looks to be several inches taller than Jack, and more heavily built. Jack just took a thrashing rolling down that hill, never mind the other damage he has sustained in the last couple of days. . . and he doesn't really look combat trained. . . I think Ethan just whomped him. ;-) I don't know... For a BIG guy, Ethan moved pretty fast. I don't believe a 300 pound NFL lineman could have made the same moves. My observation was Ethan moved unnaturally fast while administering a beating to Jack... Like he had "Supernatural" powers.

Originally posted by optivity
I don't know... For a BIG guy, Ethan moved pretty fast. I don't believe a 300 pound NFL lineman could have made the same moves. My observation was Ethan moved unnaturally fast while administering a beating to Jack... Like he had "Supernatural" powers.

The factor that influenced me the most wasn't his speed, but his strength. He barely put pressure on Jack's chest with his foot, but you could hear Jack's ribcage straining. All his moves seemed effortless despite the rain, being in a bog, and having dragged 2 people through the jungle for several hours.

Well I won't be reading this thread for its many spoilers but I did finally catch the Pilot episode tonight and wow! It really is worth all the hype. gotta be the best thing on TV.

Originally posted by CPanther95
My money would be on Bristow. He doesn't need a righteous cause in order to be ruthless. He'd likely just kill the other two while they're focused on engaging in a "fair" barroom brawl. ...and then he'd do one of those killer slow-mo glares as he walks out of the bar...

Originally posted by Iteki
The factor that influenced me the most wasn't his speed, but his strength. He barely put pressure on Jack's chest with his foot, but you could hear Jack's ribcage straining. All his moves seemed effortless despite the rain, being in a bog, and having dragged 2 people through the jungle for several hours.

I never even thought for a second he was "super" at all. I just figured Jack's a doctor, not a fighter. He just lost a fight. I think you guys are reading into it because it was closer to the length of a REAL fight, and not a 10 minute battle like they usually are.

You know, not EVERYTHING in the show has to be more than it appears. Ethan is a nut who is on the island, but wasn't on the plane. Maybe that's all we've been shown so far.

-Beefshank

Originally posted by GregF
Well I won't be reading this thread for its many spoilers but I did finally catch the Pilot episode tonight and wow! It really is worth all the hype. gotta be the best thing on TV.

hehe!:D Not to shabby eh? Welcome to HDTV at it's finest..:)

Originally posted by GregF
Well I won't be reading this thread for its many spoilers but I did finally catch the Pilot episode tonight and wow! It really is worth all the hype. gotta be the best thing on TV. Agreed...

Originally posted by Hounsfield
...and then he'd do one of those killer slow-mo glares as he walks out of the bar...

More like a malevolent squint. Nobody squints like Jack Bristow. Except maybe Clint Eastwood, the all-time most menacing squinter.

I watched the pilot last night in HD as well for the first time! Fan-tas-tic! Now if I could just get the money scrounged up for the HD TiVo I could have recorded and watched again :sigh:

Something that I hadn't noticed earlier...

(Wasn't that why we watched last night?)

Since we now know Locke was a parapalegic, ~why~ was he sitting in a regular, isle seat, in the middle of the plane? Wouldn't he have been in his wheelchair in another part of the cabin?

Hmm...

Just my 2¢

Resume party.

Since we now know Locke was a parapalegic, ~why~ was he sitting in a regular, isle seat, in the middle of the plane? Wouldn't he have been in his wheelchair in another part of the cabin?

I guess you can't lock down a wheelchair on a plane so someone probably helped him into his seat. In a later episode, you do see the wheelchair on the island.

Have you ever seen a passenger actually sit in a wheelchair on a plane? I am pretty sure that those passengers are helped to regular seats.

I also saw his wheelchair near the front of the plane as Charlie was racing to the bathroom. You would think it would have been folded up, but it was just sitting there, near the bathrooms.

Originally posted by mdesmarais
I'm not sure I credit Ethan with unnatural strength- he looks to be several inches taller than Jack, and more heavily built. Jack just took a thrashing rolling down that hill, never mind the other damage he has sustained in the last couple of days. . . and he doesn't really look combat trained. . . I think Ethan just whomped him. ;-)

I'd have to agree. Jack is coming off that disclocated shoulder. Plus, he seemed to be very close to passing out after the header down that hill. If I remember correctly, his vision was somewhat blurred when he looked up to see Ethan standing over him.

Still, Ethan seems to have dragged off two people all alone...at least that's the assumption till now.

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OK, so he's helped to a regular seat, but wouldn't Jack, as a doctor, made note of his condition?

But then again, handicapped get loaded first, don't they?

And why would Jack care about some other passenger on the plane... especially when he had his own problems to deal with (his dead dad in the cargo hold)

Jack seemed more interested in getting plastered....

Originally posted by Beefshank
I never even thought for a second he was "super" at all. I just figured Jack's a doctor, not a fighter. He just lost a fight. I think you guys are reading into it because it was closer to the length of a REAL fight, and not a 10 minute battle like they usually are.

You know, not EVERYTHING in the show has to be more than it appears. Ethan is a nut who is on the island, but wasn't on the plane. Maybe that's all we've been shown so far.

-Beefshank

Again, I'm perfectly willing to accept Jack getting his ass kicked. Dammit, he's a doctor, not a fighter Jim! My point was that considering everything Ethan* had been up to (dragging 2 ppl across the jungle), the rain, etc. He was able to double back, kick Jack's butt, get back to Charlie, HANG him and be gone before Jack and Kate got there. All things considered, he's got a lot of gas in the tank. :-)

Originally posted by etcarroll

OK, so he's helped to a regular seat, but wouldn't Jack, as a doctor, made note of his condition?

But then again, handicapped get loaded first, don't they?

Given Jack's "difficulties" in getting his father's body onboard, I'd say it's plausible that he could have been late in boarding the plane. Therefore, he might not have seen Locke pre-board in his wheelchair. But someone should have remembered that, right? We've got 45 other survivors.

But now we're just getting picky aren't we? ;)

Originally posted by Iteki
Again, I'm perfectly willing to accept Jack getting his ass kicked. Dammit, he's a doctor, not a fighter Jim! My point was that considering everything Ethan* had been up to (dragging 2 ppl across the jungle), the rain, etc. He was able to double back, kick Jack's butt, get back to Charlie, HANG him and be gone before Jack and Kate got there. All things considered, he's got a lot of gas in the tank. :-)

We're assuming Ethan was alone. Just because we didn't see anybody else doesn't mean he didn't have help.

Originally posted by Iteki
considering everything Ethan* had been up to (dragging 2 ppl across the jungle), the rain, etc. He was able to double back, kick Jack's butt, get back to Charlie, HANG him and be gone before Jack and Kate got there. All things considered, he's got a lot of gas in the tank. :-)
Agreed...
Once Ethan was revealed as a 'bad-guy' he has been portrayed as someone with unique ability, IMO...
It is assumed that only he was involved in transporting Charlie and Claire through the jungle... and given that assumption, it is assumed he hung Charlie in the vines (since he threatened Jack that he would kill one of them)...
And then just seeing how brutally he whooped Jacks butt... that whole scene just seemed to portray his character as unique.. (maybe he was a Navy Seal? or had special combat training? who knows...)

Originally posted by PJO1966
We're assuming Ethan was alone. Just because we didn't see anybody else doesn't mean he didn't have help.

True, True. But I can only guess based on what they've shown us, not what they haven't. But we've got people talking about LOST again, so it's all good. :-)

Question:

Why are the Others (if indeed that is who Ethan* represents) so reluctant to kill the survivors off? If all they wanted was the baby, why not just kill Charlie? Why bother warning Jack at all? Just kill the man if he's a threat to their plans. Obviously for practical real world reasons you can't go around killing off all your main characters, but in terms of the show I think the Others want the survivors alive for some other reason. Gene Pool perhaps?

Originally posted by Iteki


Question:

Why are the Others (if indeed that is who Ethan* represents) so reluctant to kill the survivors off? If all they wanted was the baby, why not just kill Charlie? Why bother warning Jack at all? Just kill the man if he's a threat to their plans. Obviously for practicaly real world reasons you can't go around killing off all your main characters, but in terms of the show I think the Others want the survivors alive for some other reason. Gene Pool perhaps?

I think they are kept alive for some sort of monitoring or to used in some sort of testing for whatever is on the island. I think whatever happened to the French Womans group will slowly happen the survivors of the plane crash. This whole show has the little mouse in my brain running his ass off as I have too many ideas to list. I just hope there are new shows in January and not Feb like I have heard on other forums.

I just checked TitanTv and they have episode 7, The Moth, and episode 8, Confidence Man airing Wed. Dec. 29th. So it looks like they are skipping eps in preparation for the Alias premiere maybe?

Originally posted by hattrik21
I just hope there are new shows in January and not Feb like I have heard on other forums.

On Dec 8, tvtome.com reported that new espisodes would not reappear until February.

On Dec 14, they reported that new episodes will air Jan 5, 12, and 19. There will be repeats for the two weeks afterwards. That will at least complete the 13-week season.

This should explain the different reports about the episodes.

http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/DetailsServlet/showid-24313/epid-0/moduleid-44

I just checked TitanTv and they have episode 7, The Moth, and episode 8, Confidence Man airing Wed. Dec. 29th. So it looks like they are skipping eps in preparation for the Alias premiere maybe?

Or perhaps they are running back-to-back episodes in their weak Saturday primetime slot as well. Did you check Titan for that?

How many eps have been shown so far? I think they are doing two a week. At least they did two this week, and the preview after it for next week said "2 hours of Lost"... If they've shown 8 already, and they do 2 a week, that would make 4 weeks of reruns.

Can we post possible spoliers here?? I found something that may or may not have been posted yet.

Originally posted by auburn97
Or perhaps they are running back-to-back episodes in their weak Saturday primetime slot as well. Did you check Titan for that? Nothing showing on Saturdays. It appears after the 12th and 13th eps are shown, they will finish off the skipped episodes before running the new ones that they most likey are currently filming now.

Don't mean to go OT here but I just read on Movie Tome that Evangeline Lilly was an extra in the movie White Chicks.

Anyone seen her? At what point in the movie does she make an appearance if her scene wasn't cut?

I've seen that movie and let me tell you it will probably be best remembered for her appearance!:D

Originally posted by hattrik21
Can we post possible spoliers here?? I found something that may or may not have been posted yet.

If it is something that hasn't actually aired in an episode, I would use spoiler tags...

like this

Originally posted by cyberbri
How many eps have been shown so far? I think they are doing two a week. At least they did two this week, and the preview after it for next week said "2 hours of Lost"... If they've shown 8 already, and they do 2 a week, that would make 4 weeks of reruns.

10 episodes have aired already. The 2-hour pilot was orignially filmed as a single episode, but then broken in half...so some might consider that 11 have been aired. The other 3 that were part of the original filming are on deck, and the latest reports has them airing on the dates indicated...

22-Sep-2004 Pilot (1)
29-Sep-2004 Pilot (2)
06-Oct-2004 Tabula Rasa
13-Oct-2004 Walkabout
20-Oct-2004 White Rabbit
27-Oct-2004 House of the Rising Sun
03-Nov-2004 The Moth
10-Nov-2004 Confidence Man
17-Nov-2004 Solitary
01-Dec-2004 Raised by Another
08-Dec-2004 All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues

05-Jan-2005 Whatever the Case May Be
12-Jan-2005 Hearts and Minds
19-Jan-2005 Special

Interview from TVguide with Evangeline Lilly.

Will we find out what bad thing Kate has done?

You'll see her commit the crime in an upcoming episode. It doesn't reveal the entire story, but it's a huge piece of the puzzle. And she confesses to another crime. So you get a double whammy there...

On Ethan* ;-) dragging off Claire and Charlie- again, I didn't think too much about it. A little threat to Claire would get Charlie right in line, and the same for Claire with a threat to the baby. . . it is very unclear to me as to what the timeline was- hard to say how much of a lead they had. Also, there is NO WAY that you track as fast as someone who (theoretically ;-) knows the island like the back of his hand can travel. Unless you are are a expert (like Aragorn or something), you'd be unlikely to even go 1/4 speed. Even with C and C dragging their feet, they'd still be pulling away.

Markd

Not really a spoiler... but better to be safe.. :)

I think we all knew that Kate's story would be coming up soon (in fact it's the next new episode!)

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Not really a spoiler... but better to be safe.. :)

I think we all knew that Kate's story would be coming up soon (in fact it's the next new episode!)

I wasn't sure so playing it safe is always good.

Originally posted by htevolution

Still, Ethan seems to have dragged off two people all alone...at least that's the assumption till now.

Didn't Charlie say "They wanted her baby"? Wouldn't that indicate Ethan was not alone?

So are we all in agreement, or can someone verify, that every major character can be spotted getting on the plane or shown in a seat on the plane in the flashbacks?

Last night I was looking HARD at the crash sequences to spot as many of the regulars.... still haven't seen Hurley, and I'm still going with the theory that there's something up with him, that he might not have been on the plane. Sounds really crazy, especially with the way he acts on the island, but I didn't see him on the plane and he should have been in the same section with everyone else, since the back of the plane broke off and the front of the plane was found in the jungle. Plus, he was the one doing the "census" of everyone on the island, and no one made a census of who he was, where he came from, and if he was on the plane manifest.

Can we post possible spoliers here?? I found something that may or may not have been posted yet.

Absolutely, just be sure to use the Spoiler alert.

Originally posted by mdesmarais
On Ethan* ;-) dragging off Claire and Charlie- again, I didn't think too much about it. A little threat to Claire would get Charlie right in line, and the same for Claire with a threat to the baby. . . it is very unclear to me as to what the timeline was- hard to say how much of a lead they had. Also, there is NO WAY that you track as fast as someone who (theoretically ;-) knows the island like the back of his hand can travel. Unless you are are a expert (like Aragorn or something), you'd be unlikely to even go 1/4 speed. Even with C and C dragging their feet, they'd still be pulling away.

Markd

Asterisk! *!* Solidarity!

Originally posted by ucsbgaucho
So are we all in agreement, or can someone verify, that every major character can be spotted getting on the plane or shown in a seat on the plane in the flashbacks?

Last night I was looking HARD at the crash sequences to spot as many of the regulars.... still haven't seen Hurley, and I'm still going with the theory that there's something up with him, that he might not have been on the plane. Sounds really crazy, especially with the way he acts on the island, but I didn't see him on the plane and he should have been in the same section with everyone else, since the back of the plane broke off and the front of the plane was found in the jungle. Plus, he was the one doing the "census" of everyone on the island, and no one made a census of who he was, where he came from, and if he was on the plane manifest.

With that theory, why would he bring up up that there's more preple on the island that whats on the manifest if he himself was not on the plane?

Originally posted by ucsbgaucho
So are we all in agreement, or can someone verify, that every major character can be spotted getting on the plane or shown in a seat on the plane in the flashbacks?

Last night I was looking HARD at the crash sequences to spot as many of the regulars.... still haven't seen Hurley, and I'm still going with the theory that there's something up with him, that he might not have been on the plane. Sounds really crazy, especially with the way he acts on the island, but I didn't see him on the plane and he should have been in the same section with everyone else, since the back of the plane broke off and the front of the plane was found in the jungle. Plus, he was the one doing the "census" of everyone on the island, and no one made a census of who he was, where he came from, and if he was on the plane manifest. OK. So what's up with Hurley? There have been no "flashback" sequences with this character and I don't recall seeing him on the plane before it crashed. Just as Ethan managed to infiltrate the group before he kidnapped Charlie and Claire, my theory is Hurley is Danielle's long Lost son Alex.

Didn't Hurley reveal that 'Hurley' was just a nick-name he got in college, but he real name was.... something else? I can't remeber what he said it was now...

I looked it up... Hugo Reyes.

Hehe, I dont know if he actually said what his "real" character name was, but yes he just stated that Hurley was a nickname.

I dont know why he'd say someone's not on the list... but did anyone verify that when he said it was Ethan, that was actually the case? Maybe he was lying... or at least lying about how many people weren't on the manifest, throw 'em off for some weird reason that we'll eventually find out.

He did say it was Ethan that wasn't on the manifest. He didn't say it at the end of the episode where Claire and Charlie were kidnapped, but he did say it at the beginning of the next episode.

I think Hurley is part of The Others just because he's probably the least likely, based on his personality and actions. Remember, this is a J.J. Abrams show and he loves to mis-direct the viewer. But there have been clues: Sawyer asking who's going to interview him, not seeing him on the plane, etc.

I don't remember seeing Hurley, Claire, Sayid, Sawyer, or the father and son on the plane yet. But all of them were on the beach right after the plane crashed, so none of them are "others". Ethan wasn't shown till they moved to the caves.

Character that I recognize on the plane:
Jack
Kate
Korean couple
Boone and his sister
Charlie
Locke
black lady with missing husband

Originally posted by snowcat
I don't remember seeing Hurley, Claire, Sayid, Sawyer, or the father and son on the plane yet. But all of them were on the beach right after the plane crashed, so none of them are "others". Ethan wasn't shown till they moved to the caves.

Character that I recognize on the plane:
Jack
Kate
Korean couple
Boone and his sister
Charlie
Locke
black lady with missing husband Yes, but; Claire, Sayid, and Sawyer have each been featured during their respective flashback sequences so we can "ASSume" their characters are among the "normal" Lost survivors. What do we "really" know about Hurley? Only he passes out at the sight of blood, he won't eat sushi and he's HIP with some cool expressions: "Dude!!!"

Originally posted by optivity
OK. So what's up with Hurley? There have been no "flashback" sequences with this character and I don't recall seeing him on the plane before it crashed. Just as Ethan managed to infiltrate the group before he kidnapped Charlie and Claire, my theory is Hurley is Danielle's long Lost son Alex.

If Alex is a boy, and if it is Hurley, then he's been on this island for 16 years. He seems to have a lot of knowledge of culture away from the island, more than someone marooned since early childhood. Also, what kind of island diet would get him as big as he is?...No, he eats an American diet. :D

Originally posted by keenan
Didn't Charlie say "They wanted her baby"? Wouldn't that indicate Ethan was not alone?

Actual conversation:

CHARLIE: (woodenly) I didn't see anything ... hear anything. I don't remember
... anything.
(Jack turns and looks around.)
CHARLIE: Claire.
JACK: What?
CHARLIE: That's all they wanted.
JACK: (o.s.) "They." I-I don't --
CHARLIE: All they wanted was Claire.

Originally posted by hefe
If Alex is a boy, and if it is Hurley, then he's been on this island for 16 years. He seems to have a lot of knowledge of culture away from the island, more than someone marooned since early childhood. Also, what kind of island diet would get him as big as he is?...No, he eats an American diet. :D I agree the "Dude" expression indicates Hurley has been exposed to recent American culture... as for his SIZE, maybe he's got a thyroid disorder and of course can't get the proper medication.:eek:

Originally posted by optivity
I agree the "Dude" expression indicates Hurley has been exposed to recent American culture... as for his SIZE, maybe he's got a thyroid disorder and of course can't get the proper medication.:eek:

The Hurley character IS my favorite on the island. Seeing the repeats re-affirmed that. :D

Originally posted by hefe
Actual conversation:

CHARLIE: (woodenly) I didn't see anything ... hear anything. I don't remember
... anything.
(Jack turns and looks around.)
CHARLIE: Claire.
JACK: What?
CHARLIE: That's all they wanted.
JACK: (o.s.) "They." I-I don't --
CHARLIE: All they wanted was Claire.

How can he know to say 'they' if he can't remember anything?

Originally posted by keenan
Didn't Charlie say "They wanted her baby"? Wouldn't that indicate Ethan was not alone? I am waiting for Clare in her aussie accent to cry out, "the dingo's got my baby!".

Originally posted by tall1
I am waiting for Clare in her aussie accent to cry out, "the dingo's got my baby!".

OT: You know, I think they finally found that baby, and the mother was telling the truth, 3 hunters found it and according to the news article one of them buried it in their backyard. Can't remember was the reason was, I think they were poachers and one of them finally came forward as some sort of death bed confession or something.

One thing I noticed when watching the repeat on Wednesday was that, the sister (blonde) in the brother and sister duo said that someone saved their lives (the guy at the ticket counter or something), because he wouldn't let them have their 1st class seats. They were supposed to be in 1st class, but ended up in economy in the section of the plane with the survivors. There's a reason these two are on the island... I wouldn't have thought so, but they had the polar bear in the comic book for a split second, so they must have already had written out a lot of the story for the first season already.

Originally posted by keenan
OT: You know, I think they finally found that baby, and the mother was telling the truth, 3 hunters found it and according to the news article one of them buried it in their backyard. Can't remember was the reason was, I think they were poachers and one of them finally came forward as some sort of death bed confession or something. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3874467.stm

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