Promotional Pictures for Episode 15 "Homecoming" were just posted an hour or two ago. (Slightly spoilery)

http://www.abcmedianet.com/ph_search/showpg_lv.htm?startat=0&folderno=&airdate=&show_name=&imagetype=&update=&prog_num=001648&keyword=&hits=150&dir=/shows03/primetime/lost/&css=drama.css&nobuttons=

Maybe an Albino Grizzly? :rolleyes:

Interesting stats about this thread: the thread was started on 9/22. Number of posts per month has declined as follows:1,132 - 828 - 620 - 360. The last number represents 2 weeks from 12/22 to yesterday but you get the point.

I count 611 posts in the past 18 days (Jan.3 until now).

For all you guys who were asking if Maggie Grace (Shannon) was really singing in the episode...Maggie herself answered us on the Lost forum.

She posts as "Stix" and has already answered a bunch of us 7 times so far.

yep, that was me. I'm hoping Naveen's vocal talents will rub off on me-- he happens to be a Rock God. Really.

Also, Jorge (Hurley) says that his backstory is gonna to be "pretty sweet" and you guys should consider asking Terry O'Quinn (Locke) some questions, he is a really nice guy. Ian Somerhalder (Boone) also answers us as "BooneS" whenever he can.

From abcmedianet.com:

“Lost” Takes a Bite Out of “Idol,” as it Pushes the Fox Show Well Below its Year-ago Wednesday Opener, While Marking the ABC Drama’s Third-Highest Numbers Yet

Wednesday Night (8:00-11:00 p.m.)
With continued strong turn-outs for each of its shows on the night, ABC delivered a solid second place to “American Idol”-boosted Fox on the night in Total Viewers (14.5 million) and Adults 18-49 (5.8/14). ABC topped third-place CBS by 4.2 million viewers and by 81% in Adults 18-49 (10.3 million & 3.2/8).

• Compared to the same night a year ago, also against a Wednesday season opener of “Idol,” ABC’s delivery grew by 5.5 million viewers and by 49% in Adults 18-49 (9.0 million & 3.9/10 on 1/21/04). In fact despite the increased competition this week, ABC retained all of its week-earlier Adult 18-34 audience and grew among women and kids.

“Lost” (8:00-9:00 p.m.)
Showing strong build throughout its telecast, opposite the Wednesday night season opener of Fox’s “American Idol,” ABC’s “Lost” posted the drama’s third-strongest delivery ever in Total Viewers (19.6 million) and Adults 18-49 (7.3/18). The strong appetite for “Lost” put a dent in “Idol’s” performance. Compared to its Wednesday night opener last year (1/21/05), “American Idol” was down by -3.2 million viewers (26.4 million vs. 29.6 million) and by -13% in Adults 18-49 (11.1/27 vs. 12.7/32). “Idol” also dropped enormously from its Tuesday season premiere performance the prior evening (33.6 million viewers & 14.0/33 in Adults 18-49)

• Versus its season average, “Lost” was up by 3.1 million viewers (19.6 million vs. 16.5 million) and by 20% in Adults 18-49 (7.3/18 vs. 6.1/16).

Doesn't anyone here think it seems strange that a Pregnant woman on the island is taken by some sort of "inhabitant" and that everybody just seems to be going about their business like nothing happened. I'd be freaking out a bit, or at the very least trying to help find her.

I know it really doesn't mean much that she re-appeared, but just a ponder


ANyway, I am sold that Walt can envision something, then it just happens (the bird, the polar bear, the knife throw). But I'm not sure exactly what that has to do with the story (other than it has something to do with it)?

Originally posted by neoufo51
For all you guys who were asking if Maggie Grace (Shannon) was really singing in the episode...Maggie herself answered us on the Lost forum.

She posts as "Stix" and has already answered a bunch of us 7 times so far.



Also, Jorge (Hurley) says that his backstory is gonna to be "pretty sweet" and you guys should consider asking Terry O'Quinn (Locke) some questions, he is a really nice guy. Ian Somerhalder (Boone) also answers us as "BooneS" whenever he can.


Is this the message board over at ABC.com, or is there a special website?

Originally posted by houset
Is this the message board over at ABC.com, or is there a special website?

http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?board=2.0

All the stars that post so far have been really nice. Terry O'Quinn (Locke) is by far the most interesting. He posts quite a bit between shoots in Hawaii. You can try asking the producers and the writers questions but they wont reveal much at all about future events. I suggest asking Javi, one of the writers, if you have any questions about the plot since he is the nicest of all the creative team.

Originally posted by maxman
I count 611 posts in the past 18 days (Jan.3 until now). What is more impressive is the number of 'views' 175K+, way more than 'any' other thread in the AVS Forum.

Hmm, American Idol.

No wonder ABC was pimping this episode like crazy.

Originally posted by wco81
Hmm, American Idol.

No wonder ABC was pimping this episode like crazy.

Precisely.

ANyway, I am sold that Walt can envision something, then it just happens (the bird, the polar bear, the knife throw). But I'm not sure exactly what that has to do with the story (other than it has something to do with it)?

Maybe Walt could envision a power ring, and use it to create a way off the island :D

"yep, that was me. I'm hoping Naveen's vocal talents will rub off on me-- he happens to be a Rock God. Really."

I don't doubt she was singing, but it either:

(a) was not on the set, but in a studio

or

(b) was enhanced later

It sounded very unnatural and clearly wasn't just the character singing on the set. It did, indeed, sound like her, so I'd rather not speculate on whether it was (a) or (b).

Anyway, she is a bit more nuanced a character than it first appears and it's cool she and others are "forum-ing" with fans.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Maybe an Albino Grizzly? :rolleyes:

Nope, as previously discussed, the Polar Bear has black skin, heavily pigmented to protect it from polar sun which although oblique has much UV due to a practicaly non-existent artic ozone layer.

Albino animals have pink totally unpigmented skins. This was definately a polar bear, check back to the attack scene and note the prominent black flesh around the snout. In a tropical rain forest, hunting for human meat, there not being any seals around to snack on. Take my word for it, I once had to dispose of a Polar Bear carcass.

Although it's not really relevant, I think the bear is CGI. The species is protected but not endangered. The expense of CGI is no longer great and these animals cannot really be trained or tamed as other bear species, they are savage carnivores, and CGI is a lot safer. This animal looked a little raggedy and not quite as I remember them.

Gary

Originally posted by neoufo51
Promotional Pictures for Episode 15 "Homecoming" were just posted an hour or two ago. (Slightly spoilery)

http://www.abcmedianet.com/ph_search/showpg_lv.htm?startat=0&folderno=&airdate=&show_name=&imagetype=&update=&prog_num=001648&keyword=&hits=150&dir=/shows03/primetime/lost/&css=drama.css&nobuttons=

Wish I had an account on adcmedianet....there's some nice looking photos of Shannon on the previous pages at the link above.

For those doubting the polar bear, is that really on an island?

Originally posted by houset
ANyway, I am sold that Walt can envision something, then it just happens (the bird, the polar bear, the knife throw). But I'm not sure exactly what that has to do with the story (other than it has something to do with it)?

Don't forget the dice rolls when he was playing backgammon with Hurley a few episodes back.

That was the worst looking polar bear.
They sure didn't spend much money on that special effect.

Originally posted by Jimbo Moran
It was in Spanish and aparrently Walt cannot read Spanish so I doubt he brought it on board with him.

In the original polar bear/comic book episode, I'm 99% sure Walt told his dad he'd found the comic book in the wreckage.

Originally posted by Thomas JW
I'm expecting the dog to show up again with an injury .. like maybe a knife wound?

I made that exact comment to my wife after we finished watching the show.

Originally posted by htevolution
In the original polar bear/comic book episode, I'm 99% sure Walt told his dad he'd found the comic book in the wreckage.

You are correct.

Originally posted by Gary McCoy
Take my word for it, I once had to dispose of a Polar Bear carcass.



I heard those San Jose Polar Bears are the worst :D

Wasn't there an old Marvel Comics Tarzan-like character who lived in a tropical area hidden somewhere in Antarctica? That's sort of a parallel to a polar bear in a tropical climate. The pilot of the plane said that they were thousands of miles off course, or somewhere in that neighborhood, before he was yanked away by some beast (since Walt wasn't there, chances are he didn't attract this one). Perhaps they've crashed in a secret area at the South Pole where researchers have established a base. These researchers have been pulling down planes for years (future seasons of the show will reveal details of each previous crash) to do research on children. Actually, the ENTIRE South Pole is a man-made research facility!

Maybe I should just watch the show and quit coming up with wacky theories.

I do wish we'd start to get more answers. It's beginning to get difficult to keep up with everything that's been happening. If this were a computer game, at least you could go back and revisit previous clues. With a 60 minute show once a week, it's harder to keep everything together.

So who's backstory is left?

I know we still have Hurley. Anyone else?

Notice how 'buddy-buddy' Locke and Boone seem to be now? Boone is like the lost puppy that follows Locke around and does what he's told now...

And you gotta love those jeans on Kate! :)

Originally posted by durl
Wasn't there an old Marvel Comics Tarzan-like character who lived in a tropical area hidden somewhere in Antarctica? That's sort of a parallel to a polar bear in a tropical climate. The pilot of the plane said that they were thousands of miles off course, or somewhere in that neighborhood, before he was yanked away by some beast (since Walt wasn't there, chances are he didn't attract this one). Perhaps they've crashed in a secret area at the South Pole where researchers have established a base. These researchers have been pulling down planes for years (future seasons of the show will reveal details of each previous crash) to do research on children. Actually, the ENTIRE South Pole is a man-made research facility!

That would be Ka-ZaR, Of The Savage Land....

one thing i found strange (not that it matters) was that Brian showed up at Michael's door stating that his wife died the day before . he'd really jump on a plane the day after her death?? and where was michael living? -- i don't recall. it's a 15 - 16 hour flight from Sydney to LA, for example.

he really must have been afraid of walt!

Originally posted by keenan
That was the best so far..:D

Although Hurley has the best lines overall.

Agreed.

And if Charlie "thought they were C's" he's definitely been on the island too long. I'm a big Kate fan, but let's be realistic. ;)

Originally posted by Dynot
So who's backstory is left?

I know we still have Hurley. Anyone else? The polar bear.

Originally posted by eddieras
one thing i found strange (not that it matters) was that Brian showed up at Michael's door stating that his wife died the day before . he'd really jump on a plane the day after her death?? and where was michael living? -- i don't recall. it's a 15 - 16 hour flight from Sydney to LA, for example.

he really must have been afraid of walt!

With the time difference, when flying from Sydney to LA you actually land before you took off... neat trick.

Originally posted by tall1
The polar bear.

Besides that and the dog.

I suspect we may see some major revelations about Hurley in the upcoming sweeps month.

Originally posted by PJO1966
With the time difference, when flying from Sydney to LA you actually land before you took off... neat trick.

yeah-- i checked it out on expedia (gotta do your homework before you post - don't want to open myself up to flamming! ;)

you can leave Sydney at 10:50am and arrive in LA at 7:10AM the same day -- a 15 hour and 20 minute flight

OK, let the predictions of Hurley's backstory begin: I think he's rich, just because of when Walt beat him it backgammon and said that he owed him how ever much it was, Hurley said, "you'll get it, kid" or something like that. I wonder if his interest in golf is a clue? He also seemed to know immediately what a Halliburton (Kate's case) was. I don't think that's commonly known, is it? My prediction is that he was a .com company founder and sold for a ton of money.

Originally posted by eddieras
one thing i found strange (not that it matters) was that Brian showed up at Michael's door stating that his wife died the day before .
I thought he said she had died "a week ago" - but even so I agree he did seem to be in a hurry to get rid of Walt.

Originally posted by eddieras
one thing i found strange (not that it matters) was that Brian showed up at Michael's door stating that his wife died the day before . he'd really jump on a plane the day after her death?? and where was michael living? -- i don't recall. it's a 15 - 16 hour flight from Sydney to LA, for example.

he really must have been afraid of walt!

I think Michael was living in NYC (I think Brian mentioned that when he gave him the airline tickets). Now that would be one godawful day of travel from Sydney! You'd have to be seriously scared of something. Maybe Brian really believed Walt had something to do with his mother's death. It sure leaves the door open to more exploration of the "stuff" that happens when Walt's around.

I was a week behind in my viewing and caught up last night.

So Boone and Shannon have had intimate relations. Then Boone fantasizes that she gets killed by what seemed to be an invisible T-rex? Will dino's show up on the island?

Clair returns all beat up and with no baby? Next week should be interesting to say the least.

Originally posted by NorthJersey
I heard those San Jose Polar Bears are the worst :D

It happened about three decades ago when I was on a remote military post near the Arctic Circle in Alaska. The short version is the bear attacked the station building and was in fact tearing his way into the meat locker where the sides of beef were hanging. The station dogs (Husky/Wolf hybrids) attacked the bear in turn and a battle royal developed, several dogs were killed, then the humans joined in. I punched several .223 caliber holes in the bear with an M-16, which only served to further enrage him. He was finally stopped by some .45 caliber rounds from several Colt autos.

This species is not like the lovable Black Bear or even the Grizzly. At least the behavior seen in the show is accurate. In the normal Human/Polar Bear encounter, the human gets eaten unless heavily armed.

Gary

Originally posted by htevolution
I think Michael was living in NYC (I think Brian mentioned that when he gave him the airline tickets). Now that would be one godawful day of travel from Sydney! You'd have to be seriously scared of something. Maybe Brian really believed Walt had something to do with his mother's death. It sure leaves the door open to more exploration of the "stuff" that happens when Walt's around.

NYC! i wasn't sure-- now that 10:50am departing flight gets into JFK in NYC at 5:20PM with one stop. Now it's 22 hours 30 minutes of travel time!
all, the day after his wife just died-- that's the first thing on your mind?? --- 'i have to fly outta here ASAP and get this kid off my hands'??? hmmm.... we need to see Walt's backstory!

btw- i just doublechecked the tivo-- he did say she died 'yesterday'

If he really wanted to get rid of him he would have brought him along, unless he didn't want to fly with him for some reason.

Originally posted by Dynot
So who's backstory is left?

I know we still have Hurley. Anyone else?

Ethan. But he may not be a passenger, obviously.

Rousseau. (The French Woman)

The Black Lady with the un-dead husband.

Originally posted by dmbatch
If he really wanted to get rid of him he would have brought him along, unless he didn't want to fly with him for some reason.

Brian's rush to see Michael, the distance traveled and the fact that it was the day after her death --combined with your point above really does add something to the plot line!

Originally posted by jsantors
Clair returns all beat up and with no baby? Next week should be interesting to say the least. Looks like next weeks episode is a repeat.:mad:

Originally posted by dmbatch
...unless he didn't want to fly with him for some reason.

obviously he was right.

:D

Originally posted by jake14mw
OK, let the predictions of Hurley's backstory begin: I think he's rich, just because of when Walt beat him it backgammon and said that he owed him how ever much it was, Hurley said, "you'll get it, kid" or something like that. I wonder if his interest in golf is a clue? He also seemed to know immediately what a Halliburton (Kate's case) was. I don't think that's commonly known, is it? My prediction is that he was a .com company founder and sold for a ton of money. Not bad. I can totally see that. Either that or he's a software programmer that sold some amazing piece of code for top dollar to a software company.

Whatever he did in his non-castaway life, it had to be something of his own doing. He doesn't seem like a 9-5er to me. Computers are always offering ways for people to become instant millionaires (if you're one of the lucky ones to come up with just the right product at just the right time) and an LA .com business seems like a perfect laid back fit for a guy like him.

Of course, maybe he found the perfect way to combine and shape metals for the ultimate in responsive golf drivers. Maybe he was able to retire after he sold out to Callaway.

I don't think he said she had died the day before. I vaguely remember thinking that if I were Michael I would have been pissed that nobody had called me sooner. I think he said she died "last week".

Originally posted by Dynot
So who's backstory is left?

I know we still have Hurley. Anyone else?

Have they shown Clair's?

Yes.

Originally posted by PJO1966
I don't think he said she had died the day before. I vaguely remember thinking that if I were Michael I would have been pissed that nobody had called me sooner. I think he said she died "last week".

no- i just doublechecked the tivo-- he did say she died 'yesterday'


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Originally posted by rdwalt
Have they shown Clair's?

Yes, the psychic told her to raise her child, and anyone else raising it would have dire consequences.

Dang! How'd I miss that one!?

Originally posted by Innova
Yes, the psychic told her to raise her child, and anyone else raising it would have dire consequences.

Then he changed his mind and said that there was a couple in Los Angeles who could raise the baby, but she had to fly there (in her 3rd trimester). He provided her with the tickets and told her that she absolutely had to be on that specific flight.

Yeah, but that was because he was psychic and wanted her and the child to perish in the crash. Which he knew was coming because he's psychic.

Originally posted by jake14mw
OK, let the predictions of Hurley's backstory begin: I think he's rich, just because of when Walt beat him it backgammon and said that he owed him how ever much it was, Hurley said, "you'll get it, kid" or something like that. I wonder if his interest in golf is a clue? He also seemed to know immediately what a Halliburton (Kate's case) was. I don't think that's commonly known, is it? My prediction is that he was a .com company founder and sold for a ton of money.

maybe he's actually John Daly of the PGA tour

Originally posted by dmbatch
If he really wanted to get rid of him he would have brought him along, unless he didn't want to fly with him for some reason.

because Brian probably thought Walt would crash the plane, which is my theory of what actually happened.

Originally posted by CycloneGT
Yeah, but that was because he was psychic and wanted her and the child to perish in the crash. Which he knew was coming because he's psychic.

This is just our theory on why he wanted Claire on the plane. A pretty good theory, but it isn't confirmed that that was the reason.

Hurley's story.
I think he lost out as the big, fat obnoxious fiance and got the role on lost.

Originally posted by Innova
This is just our theory on why he wanted Claire on the plane. A pretty good theory, but it isn't confirmed that that was the reason.

I think someone has already suggested that the psychic didn't want her to die. He knew she would survive. And since she was trapped on an island, she would be forced to raise the child herself.

On the other hand, why didn't he foresee that the Others would take the child, thereby doing what he dreaded most, having the child raised to be evil. (Insert spooky music here)

Of course, if he was such a great psychic, how come he hadn't won a big lottery and retired?

Originally posted by joeracerx
Of course, if he was such a great psychic, how come he hadn't won a big lottery and retired?

Ask one and they'll tell you, "Well, it just doesn't work that way". Sure. :rolleyes: :p

Originally posted by eddieras
no- i just doublechecked the tivo-- he did say she died 'yesterday'


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I don't think they said that she died IN australia though. Perhaps they flew to the US for medical treatment?

Originally posted by mstahlkr
I don't think they said that she died IN australia though. Perhaps they flew to the US for medical treatment?

good point-- i'll go back and watch - see if i missed anything

This just in...TV Guide synopses for the next 3 episodes.

Episode 1.15: Homecoming
Airdate: February 9, 2005

* 01/20 - After the missing Claire returns with no recollection of what has happened since before the doomed flight of Oceanic 815, Jack and Locke formulate a plan of defense against her kidnapper, the mysterious Ethan, who threatens to kill off the other survivors unless Claire is returned to him. Source: ABC

Episode 1.16: Outlaws
Airdate: February 16, 2005

* 01/21 - Kate and Sawyer divulge dark secrets to each other while tracking a renegade boar that Sawyer swears is purposely harassing him. Meanwhile, Hurley and Sayid worry that Charlie is losing it after his brush with death, and a shocking, prior connection between Sawyer and Jack is revealed. Robert Patrick ("Terminator 2: Judgment Day," "The X-File") guest stars. Source: ABC

And Episode 17 has a sorta major occurance with Jin being the subject this time
Episode 1.17: ...In Translation
Airdate: February 23, 2005

* 01/21 - When the raft the survivors have been building mysteriously burns down, Michael is convinced that Jin is responsible for the sabotage, which only further escalates their rivalry. Meanwhile, Sun stuns her fellow survivors with a surprising revelation, and Boone gives Sayid a warning about Shannon. Source: ABC

Oh and 18 is about Hurley, 19 is about Locke and 20 is about Jack.

Is it me, Or does anyone else think the writers are digging to big of a hole to dig themselves out of?

I already know a couple of people that have already tuned out since the last episode......"to far fetched" is their reason.

Aren't most shows on TV to "Far Fetched". Besides it isn't reality.

Being "too far fetched" is a big part of what makes this show so fascinating.

Originally posted by Parker Lewis
Is it me, Or does anyone else think the writers are digging to big of a hole to dig themselves out of?

I already know a couple of people that have already tuned out since the last episode......"to far fetched" is their reason.

while my wife and i love the show i did say to her recently that i think if i were to have turned it on now i may not have been as interested-- and she agreed.

For me, it's not yet "too far fetched". I am depending upon the belief that the series makers have and underlying theme that will provide some sort of explanation of all the disparate plot elements.

They ARE a bit sloppy - the "bad science" aspect keeps cropping up - such as with those lame "radio receivers" they were trying to locate the transmitter with. Those absolutely could not have worked as depicted with the props, nor was there any underlying Physics to explain what they were attempting - you need to know exactly where you are and what direction the antenna is pointing to successfully triangulate bearings, for example.

If they can explain all that has happened with some consistent plot framework I will keep watching. I am hoping the explanation is scientific and not mystical. I can enjoy Fantasy - I loved LOTR and caught each and every episode of both incarnations of Fantasy Island for example - but I believe rational scientific explanations for the phenomena on this island of the lost will keep the series Lost alive much longer.

Above all they have got to avoid cheating. I was never more dissappointed in a large budget film than I was in Sphere, when the characters decided to imagine the ending they wanted. Michael Crichton should be ashamed - but maybe he's over the hill, he hasn't done anything good since that dissappointing cop-out.

Gary

I'd say Crichton has been pretty busy.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000341/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxteD0yMHxzZz0xfGxtPTIwMHxwbj0wfHE9bWljaGFlbCBj cmljaHRvbnxodG1sPTF8bm09b24_;fc=1;ft=20

*oops* I missed the word "good" in your post, sorry.

So Doggett is co-starring next week? Must be in a back-story.... maybe an X-Files convention that Hurley attends?

Originally posted by ucsbgaucho
So Doggett is co-starring next week? Must be in a back-story.... maybe an X-Files convention that Hurley attends?

Nope. He will be playing Sawyer's partner in crime in several flashbacks. Looks like there's more to this Sawyer fellow than meets the eye.

For some additional info,

My wife and I were watching one of those entertainment shows on E! channel, and the writers of Lost did say that with all these near-misses of death, like Shannon, Claire and Charlie, that in an upcoming episode that one character that is "near and dear" to us will be killed for real.

They also said that Dominic and Evangeline were real "Chummy", as were Shannon and Boone at the golden globe after-parties.

Originally posted by houset
...in an upcoming episode that one character that is "near and dear" to us will be killed for real... Then my vote is for either: Boone, Michael or Jin as none of these characters seem to add much to the story.

Originally posted by mstahlkr
I don't think they said that she died IN australia though. Perhaps they flew to the US for medical treatment?

Didn't Brian say she was only sick for a few weeks? If so, and assuming she was showing the first signs in the flashback where the bird hit the window and she felt faint, that would mean Brian got scared of Walt in a pretty short period of time.

Originally posted by htevolution
Didn't Brian say she was only sick for a few weeks?
I thought he said she was only sick for a week. And he came to NY the day after she died.

Originally posted by optivity
Then my vote is for either: Boone, Michael or Jin as none of these characters seem to add much to the story.

After last week's episode, I'm liking Michael much more as a character...which probably makes him a prime target for death (because we're supposed to care about him now). His death would open up all kinds of plot opportunities...Locke raising Walt as a tropical island Jedi knight, the Others wanting him, etc.

Originally posted by htevolution
After last week's episode, I'm liking Michael much more as a character...which probably makes him a prime target for death (because we're supposed to care about him now). His death would open up all kinds of plot opportunities...Locke raising Walt as a tropical island Jedi knight, the Others wanting him, etc. Right. But please don't kill-off any of the hot babes on this show!:p

Originally posted by htevolution
Didn't Brian say she was only sick for a few weeks? If so, and assuming she was showing the first signs in the flashback where the bird hit the window and she felt faint, that would mean Brian got scared of Walt in a pretty short period of time.

That's assuming the bird and the illness were the first signs of Walt's "power". He may have witnessed many other examples in the 9 years they were together.

Originally posted by herdfan
I thought he said she was only sick for a week. And he came to NY the day after she died.

that's exactly right-- so Brian flew from sydney to NYC the day after the love of his wife dies - 20+ hours of travel time--- he must have been scared !@#less!

Originally posted by Gary McCoy
They ARE a bit sloppy - the "bad science" aspect keeps cropping up...
No no no.... It's not 'bad science'

It's 'real, pseudo science'... :D

Originally posted by JayDog_2
No no no.... It's not 'bad science'

It's 'real, pseudo science'... :D

That's like the "Imitation, Faux Fur" I saw advertised recently.

Originally posted by CPanther95
That's like the "Imitation, Faux Fur" I saw advertised recently.

straight from the Department of Redundancy Department.

LOL...

Makes you wonder what it really is then... :)

Originally posted by htevolution
After last week's episode, I'm liking Michael much more as a character...which probably makes him a prime target for death (because we're supposed to care about him now).

Yeah, me too. I really like the way he's written, almost as much as Locke, and in some ways even more. That's why it will suck when they kill him off...

Originally posted by htevolution

tropical island Jedi knight,

ROFL

Originally posted by PJO1966
straight from the Department of Redundancy Department.
Kind of like "Military Intelligence". ;)

Please, please, do NOT kill of Kate or Shannon. The shot of Shannon in her short skirt was much too brief last week, boy did she look hot in HD. I normally have to DVR it and watch it later but I got to catch it in all of it's HD glory this week. :D

Originally posted by CPanther95
That's like the "Imitation, Faux Fur" I saw advertised recently.

"It's not leather....it's "Mercedes" leather."
"What's Mercedes leather?"
"Thick Vinyl"

Extra points to the first person to name the movie...

What do I win? Lost in America

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mercedes+leather+thick+vinyl&btnG=Google+Search

Gotta love google... :D

Originally posted by eddieras
that's exactly right-- so Brian flew from sydney to NYC the day after the love of his wife dies - 20+ hours of travel time--- he must have been scared !@#less!

He just didn't want the boy sounds plausible, BUT is there another woman? There's always another woman.

Asia to USA, Arrive before you leave. The other way, lose a day. (International Date Line)

Brian seemed kinda spooked out when he asked Michael to take Walt, so I think B just wants to get Walt out of his life. Don't think it's related to another woman in his life

It's time for all you to put it back in your pants, Evangeline is taken.

[quote]The sexy women of Lost posed for Vogue earlier in the day, but co-star Ian Somerhalder said he's bummed that there are no available women to date in the cast now that Evangeline Lilly has taken up with Dominic Monaghan. [quote]

Originally posted by sdchrgrboy
now that Evangeline Lilly has taken up with Dominic Monaghan.

Those pesky hobbits!

I just don't get that pairing.

You know what they say about big feet.

Originally posted by CPanther95
I just don't get that pairing.

I don't either, but remember that this is Lily's first brush with fame. I would expect to see her with someone else as time goes on. Like me, for instance..:p

Originally posted by kcn823
You know what they say about big feet.

That's not true....sadly :(

Originally posted by keenan
I don't either, but remember that this is Lily's first brush with fame. I would expect to see her with someone else as time goes on. Like me, for instance..:p Brad Pitt is available... maybe he prefers brunettes?:D

Originally posted by nessus
Brad Pitt is available... maybe he prefers brunettes?:D

I thought he was with Angelina, I wonder if they exchanged vials of blood? :D

Whoa people! Let's real it back in.... :p

Originally posted by rdwalt
Woah people! Let's real it back in.... :p

I like that, the use of the word "real" as in bringing it back to reality as opposed to "reel". Well done. :)

Originally posted by keenan
I thought he was with Angelina, I wonder if they exchanged vials of blood? :D Oh... sorry... I forgot who the home wrecker was that broke Brad & Jen up... after 4 whole years of wedded bliss! Hey, if you're Brad Pitt... why not two brunettes? which is always better than just one. Maybe Tom Cruse is available? He likes brunettes too. IMO if Evangeline is going to step up... she may as well step it up BIG TIME!:D

New spoilers from Kristin!

Here she reveals more about Hurley's episode. She is quoted as saying..."its right up there with Locke's episode."
Gah! Lost! The Boone! And the creepy! And the wiggins! The wiggins! Kristin?
Gah! I know! There are developments coming up on Shannon's love life, yes, and the Boone thang is not going away. At the Globes, Maggie told me, "You'll see more between Shannon and Boone. It may never die." She also told me, "You'll see more of the connections between the characters and their pasts, and where our lives intersected before the plane crash."

When will Hurley's backstory be shown on Lost? He's hysterical!
Very soon. I know all the deets. How much you wanna know on a scale of one to 10? The end is a great reveal.

Seven!
Puuurrrfect, that's where I like to aim. Okay, Hurley ep, we find out that he had a huge life-altering experience before coming on the plane, the number-one thing Americans dream about, but that it ended up being the worst thing that could have happened because the experience was somehow cursed. It hurt everyone he loved--and that curse is tied to the island. And, dun dun dun, the hatch. Cryptic enough for ya? Let's just say it's going to be amazing. From the sound of it, right up there with the Locke episode.

So, the reveal is that Hurley was skinny before he got on the plane, right?
Ha! No, I guess it's the second-most-wished-for thing in America. Has nothing to do with looks, more to do with money.

Obviously Kristin is hinting that Hurley won the Lottery...but with a huge twist at the end...

I want to thank people on this board for being good about hiding spoiler stuff, I appreciate it, as I don't want to know stuff ahead of time. Who is the Kristen that is quoted above?

Agree, and please don't discuss the spoilers at all - even if you think you are being vague enough. Some of us have an acute ability to read between the lines and decipher enough to ruin it.

Also note that on most shows, even shows I watch, I generally (reluctantly) read the spoilers to make sure they need no editing for language or content, etc. However, for LOST and 24, I refuse to even peek. Please don't slip in something offensive or that you know is taboo on AVS. If it gets reported, I'll have to go in and edit.

Thanks again.

I finally got caught up on this thread (read the WHOLE thing!) and noticedthat nobody made mention of TWO Marshalls on the plane.

Sawyer got the gun and the badge from a marshall who died and he had that prior to the other marshall's death since he used that gun to kill the polar bear and then to kill the marshall . Sawyer was in the police station in Oz, so he may also have been under custody for extradition to the US. I just find it odd that nobody mentioned there were at least two criminals who were under arrest on the plane.

Do you think there might be a shocking twist where we find that Sawyer was not charged and so another passenger on the plane, most likely one of the survivors, has another secret to hide. It could even be Locke, for all we know (doubtful but possible).

Originally posted by jake14mw
I want to thank people on this board for being good about hiding spoiler stuff, I appreciate it, as I don't want to know stuff ahead of time. Who is the Kristen that is quoted above?

She's an entertainment gossip columnist for www.eonline.com. She gets access to actors/writers, etc and passes on what she can. She can be a pain to read (VERY girly girly) but she does come up with some good stuff (if you are interested in spoilers).

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
I finally got caught up on this thread (read the WHOLE thing!) and noticedthat nobody made mention of TWO Marshalls on the plane.

Sawyer got the gun and the badge from a marshall who died and he had that prior to the other marshall's death since he used that gun to kill the polar bear and then to kill the marshall . Sawyer was in the police station in Oz, so he may also have been under custody for extradition to the US. I just find it odd that nobody mentioned there were at least two criminals who were under arrest on the plane.

Do you think there might be a shocking twist where we find that Sawyer was not charged and so another passenger on the plane, most likely one of the survivors, has another secret to hide. It could even be Locke, for all we know (doubtful but possible).

My understanding was that he took it from Kate's Marshal, who he THOUGHT was dead (guy had this huge shrapnel sticking in his gut).

I think the only way there was another Marshal was if Sawyer was the other prisoner. He wouldn't want to out himself by pointing out that Kate's Marshal was not the Marshal he took the gun from.

But I'm sticking with my original take on it, Sawyer thought Kate's Marshal was dead and took his weapon and badge.

But we'll see, he WAS in an Australian police station in cuffs when we saw him in Boone's flashback.

rerun :(

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
I finally got caught up on this thread (read the WHOLE thing!)

Dude, that's dedication

Originally posted by wasting
rerun :(
Till Feb 9th.

Originally posted by neoufo51
Till Feb 9th.
Hey, you know what?

There's a 33% chance that D* will have added ESPN2-HD by then! ;)

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Hey, you know what?

There's a 33% chance that D* will have added ESPN2-HD by then! ;)
Thats nice. Try mentioning it in a non-Lost thread. :rolleyes:

Already did... figured with a couple weeks off, this thread is bound to go OT... :P

Was that a Target Ad in HD at around the 8:13 mark of Lost tonight?

Am I the only one who thinks the Quiznos talking baby sounds like Hurley?

YMMV

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Already did... figured with a couple weeks off, this thread is bound to go OT... :P

Let's keep on topic - if you must stray at least let it be with more pics of Evangeline or Shannon.....or Shannon Elizabeth, or Elizabeth Berkeley, or Hot girls of Berkeley. During this off-period the only off-topic posts should be pics that are no more than 3 "Degrees of Separation" from LOST. :D

Originally posted by kcn823
You know what they say about big feet.
Yup.
http://www.puzzlesbyrussells.co.nz/images/russells%20pics/Mandys%20Pics%20-%20G%20Clown.JPG

Originally posted by jaypb
Was that a Target Ad in HD at around the 8:13 mark of Lost tonight?

It certainly appeared to be. Looked great! Steve

Am I missing something or don't we already know this?

Don't we know Ethan is a bad guy?

Isn't Rousseau the fat kid's name?

I love the show and look forward to Wednesday nights...now I am truly LOST.:)

I felt like the people on the Island had short term memory loss. I thought Jack fought Ethan when Claire was abducted??????? Then I see Ethan in a scene on the beach....Would it have killed the writers/producers to let us see if Jack made that putt???:) :)

You know last nights episode was a repeat, right?

Originally posted by dmbatch
You know last nights episode was a repeat, right?

LOL .....Thanks, must have been one that I missed. No wonder why I feel LOST....:confused:

Thanks for clearing that up.

Originally posted by blackngold19
Am I missing something or don't we already know this?

Don't we know Ethan is a bad guy?

Isn't Rousseau the fat kid's name?

I love the show and look forward to Wednesday nights...now I am truly LOST.:)

I felt like the people on the Island had short term memory loss. I thought Jack fought Ethan when Claire was abducted??????? Then I see Ethan in a scene on the beach....Would it have killed the writers/producers to let us see if Jack made that putt???:) :)

This has to be one of the funniest posts I've read in a while.

Originally posted by MrMike6by9
Am I the only one who thinks the Quiznos talking baby sounds like Hurley?

YMMV

No you are not. I think the same thing.

Speaking of last night's rerun episode (and this line may lend some more credibility to the purgatory theory):

Early in the episode when Jack is applying bandages to Sawyer's wound, Sawyer says-
"So what do you think you can just bandage me up and buy a ticket into heaven?"

Am I the only one who thinks the Quiznos talking baby sounds like Hurley?No you are not. I think the same thing. I believe the voice is Ken Hudson Campbell http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0132637/ . I first saw him in Herman's Head, and he was also the voice of Baby Bob in that dreadful series, which apparently led him to the Quiznos spots: http://ad-rag.com/117179.php

Xesdeeni

Originally posted by CPanther95
This has to be one of the funniest posts I've read in a while.

Glad I could entertain you. :)

I'm having a blonde week I guess...:) :D

Originally posted by auburn97
Speaking of last night's rerun episode (and this line may lend some more credibility to the purgatory theory):

Early in the episode when Jack is applying bandages to Sawyer's wound, Sawyer says-
"So what do you think you can just bandage me up and buy a ticket into heaven?"

He was probably talking about him doing a good deed.

Originally posted by mx6bfast
He was probably talking about him doing a good deed.

C'mon people get a clue...it AINT Purgatory...how absurd. It's totally obvious they are clones :-)

LOL

Sawyer has this weird self-loathing thing going on, almost masochistic. Can't wait to see another one of his backstories. He seems to find Jack's need to be a "do-gooder" amusing, even slightly contemptible. Yet, you feel that he's got a softer, redeemable side as well. A very meaty part for that actor, and he's handling it well.

Originally posted by MrMike6by9
Am I the only one who thinks the Quiznos talking baby sounds like Hurley?

YMMV

so maybe that's how Hurley became a millionaire, from the upcoming episode. He probably blew all the cash on lots of sandwiches from Quiznos, though

Originally posted by NorthJersey
so maybe that's how Hurley became a millionaire, from the upcoming episode. He probably blew all the cash on lots of sandwiches from Quiznos, though Perhaps Hurley's so big because Quiznos subs aren't as healthy as Subway's, otherwise he'd be Jared. :)

Xesdeeni

Why do I read spoilers? I don't want to know, but I can't resist the little white box. Damn.

Even after reading ALL of the spoilers, as they come up, It really hasn't ruined anything for me when watching the show... the spoilers are usually vague enough... usually just a small description or idea behind a scene or two.... but the ride to getting there is still fun!

I know this has been mentioned before, but it's really starting to come together...
Sawyer killed Jack's dad, unitentionally but.... Bar brawl... Jack's dad was found outside of a bar, right? Sawyer was seen struggling at the police station, right? Very much resisting the arrest... much like a drunk dude that got into a fight. This is still speculation, but given the idea that all characters have a connection prior to the ill-fated flight, this just seems to fit quite nicely.

Since LOST is in reruns for two weeks, here is a new picture:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/fansite4dom/Lost/963693.jpg

Impressive!

Do you have a back view?:)

Probably not what you were thinking:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/fansite4dom/Lost/963696.jpg

Or, maybe this is better:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/fansite4dom/Lost/963698.jpg

you're killin me! :)

I'm gonna go call Live Links :D

She still moonlighting there, ya' think? Hey, a gal's gotta' make a living.

Wow, wow and wow!!

Girl be lookin' fine...

Did you guys hear? The LOST people are getting off the island! hehe. kind of. This news actually kinda sucks:

Touchstone Television is likely to move production of Lost out of Hawaii unless the state comes up with tax credits to keep it there, the Honolulu Star Bulletin reported Wednesday. "Nobody wants to move," Lost producer Jean Higgins told the newspaper, "but this is a business and we must consider options to cut expenses." She said that the series is currently losing $500,000 per episode. The Star Bulletin said that considerable savings could be achieved by moving production to other states on the mainland that have actively been courting producers. Ted Liu, director of the Department of Business, Economic Development and Tourism, said that state officials "have had many discussions with ABC about these issues and possible solutions."


Where would they move to?

Did you guys hear? The LOST people are getting off the island! hehe. kind of. This news actually kinda sucks:

It sounds like the producers are bluffing. Where in the U.S. could they possibly relocate and still have the high hills, rolling valleys and lush tropical forests?

Originally posted by DennisMileHi
Since LOST is in reruns for two weeks, here is a new picture:

Evangeline is seriously the hottest chick on Lost. She's just plain sexy.

San Diego. Then they could even have real polar bears. ;)

wait wait wait, next week is a repeat too? i thought it was only 1 week

^Yes, next week is a rerun.

However, expect the Feb 9th episode to rock, since the evil Ethan is back to get Claire, as shown in previews.

Originally posted by auburn97
It sounds like the producers are bluffing. Where in the U.S. could they possibly relocate and still have the high hills, rolling valleys and lush tropical forests?

Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands

Originally posted by DennisMileHi
Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands

Very true, but I doubt the infrastructure is there to support an enterprise of this nature, and the cast & crew might object to that extreme a relocation. Doubt they have many complainers about filming in Hawaii. :)

Anywhere in the Caribbean, really... they would be much closer to the mainland US as well.

Originally posted by auburn97
It sounds like the producers are bluffing. Where in the U.S. could they possibly relocate and still have the high hills, rolling valleys and lush tropical forests? CG is dirt cheap, so they could do this almost anywhere.

Xesdeeni

Originally posted by auburn97
It sounds like the producers are bluffing. Where in the U.S. could they possibly relocate and still have the high hills, rolling valleys and lush tropical forests?

sure reminds me of Newark, NJ :D

Originally posted by Xesdeeni
CG is dirt cheap, so they could do this almost anywhere.If CG is "dirt cheap," I'm not dirt-shopping with you!

Originally posted by archiguy
Very true, but I doubt the infrastructure is there to support an enterprise of this nature, and the cast & crew might object to that extreme a relocation. Doubt they have many complainers about filming in Hawaii. :)

Ok where to start...

1) Lost has 3 main locations...

a) Beach
b) The caves (Set...actually the old Xerox building where that guy went wacko and shot all his coworkers)
c) The jungle

Your telling me Puerto Rico can't come up with an old building, a beach, and a jungle? Infrastructure? Are you kidding me? :-)

2) Hawaii is INORDINATELY expensive. Companies usually make employees sign a 2 year contract before relocating them there. It is also extremely remote, impossible to travel anywhere without spending a BOATLOAD of money to fly.

PR is extremely inexpensive and very close to the US mainland.

3) Hawaii gets OLD, believe it or not. There are only so many beaches you can roam, sights you can see. And then you are STUCK there. It SOUNDS awesome, but trust me, it's not. Great place to visit, not so much to live. Like Vegas :-)

You can leave the PR, do Letterman, and be back the same day without jet lag. :-)


Not that I'm for moving the show from Hawaii...I say if it's not broken don't try to fix it. ALL TV SHOWS LOSE MONEY ON EVERY EPISODE. They count upon the long term rights, such as DVD sales, and syndication rights to recoup their investment. Complaining about losing money is just a negotiating tactic to get Hawaii to bend a bit on their tax incentives.

Originally posted by DennisMileHi
Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands

Not quite the same, but Catalina might do in a pinch, and it's right next door to Hollywood-LA.

Originally posted by neoufo51
However, expect the Feb 9th episode to rock, since the evil Ethan is back to get Claire, as shown in previews. <Coff> It's been asked that preview material not be commented on, since some folks do not watch them on purpose. Can we please do that?

(I never watch them, since nowadays for some shows they give away 90% of the good/important content! :) (Heck, even the commercials for some shows do this...))

Originally posted by tbb1226
If CG is "dirt cheap," I'm not dirt-shopping with you! :) Well, I didn't mean that literally. But by TV/Movie standards, generating a blue/green-screen background would be pretty inexpensive. The WB did it for Drew Carey's show, and they have one of the smallest audiences, and therefore budgets, around. I was surprised ABC actually went to such an exotic location in the first place for this reason.

Xesdeeni

Originally posted by leesweet
<Coff> It's been asked that preview material not be commented on, since some folks do not watch them on purpose. Can we please do that?

(I never watch them, since nowadays for some shows they give away 90% of the good/important content! :) (Heck, even the commercials for some shows do this...))

I skip the preview material too, but my G/F and neighbors who all come over to watch it on the 65" HDTV make me let it run on, while I sit there with my eyes closed and fingers in my ears humming quietly to myself :D.

http://www.emotipad.com/newemoticons/LaLaLa.gif

Damnm Keenan, you beat me to it... I knew I saw that smilie posted here somewhere before, but couldn't find it.... lol

:D

So anyway, have we gotten "lost" enough yet with this thread? I hear CPanther95 lurking outside the door..:p

I think we are still within the specified '3 degrees of separation'... :)

I thought they were saving a bunch of money by using local talent in hawaii. If they move, they'll either have to hire new talent (how do they explain that?), or fly the hawaiian talen to the new location.....thereby reducing any savings they realized in the first place.

Anybody see the promo with Charlie being grabbed by Ethan?

Originally posted by neoufo51
Anybody see the promo with Charlie being grabbed by Ethan?

Yes, and I keep thinking of the producer's comment about killing off a "most beloved character".

http://forum.**********/photopost/data/500/1710128kim.jpg

Yes, and I keep thinking of the producer's comment about killing off a "most beloved character".

But that was before they already killed Charlie once.

- Tom

Originally posted by Iteki
Ok where to start...

1) Lost has 3 main locations...

a) Beach
b) The caves (Set...actually the old Xerox building where that guy went wacko and shot all his coworkers)
c) The jungle

Your telling me Puerto Rico can't come up with an old building, a beach, and a jungle? Infrastructure? Are you kidding me? :-)

2) Hawaii is INORDINATELY expensive. Companies usually make employees sign a 2 year contract before relocating them there. It is also extremely remote, impossible to travel anywhere without spending a BOATLOAD of money to fly.

PR is extremely inexpensive and very close to the US mainland.

3) Hawaii gets OLD, believe it or not. There are only so many beaches you can roam, sights you can see. And then you are STUCK there. It SOUNDS awesome, but trust me, it's not. Great place to visit, not so much to live. Like Vegas :-)

You can leave the PR, do Letterman, and be back the same day without jet lag. :-)


Not that I'm for moving the show from Hawaii...I say if it's not broken don't try to fix it. ALL TV SHOWS LOSE MONEY ON EVERY EPISODE. They count upon the long term rights, such as DVD sales, and syndication rights to recoup their investment. Complaining about losing money is just a negotiating tactic to get Hawaii to bend a bit on their tax incentives. Right. Can't the producers take enough exterior shots of Hawaii in one week to last for a year, then build sets to film the live action? Isn't this what Hollywood has been doing for the past 50 years?Originally posted by petergaryr
Yes, and I keep thinking of the producer's comment about killing off a "most beloved character". OK. But if they have to kill one of the "hotties" have them kill Sun because she's the least hot.:cool:

Originally posted by NorthJersey
sure reminds me of Newark, NJ :D

...or, "the Riviera of the Midwest, Toledo, Ohio".
Bing Crosby to Dorothy Lamour in The Road to Bali

;)

Originally posted by NorthJersey
sure reminds me of Newark, NJ :D

Hey, I was born in Newark, NJ...and let me tell you, there are parts of Newark that are..uh..come to think of it...never mind.

:)

http://img171.exs.cx/img171/1701/sundance016nw.jpg

Originally posted by optivity
OK. But if they have to kill one of the "hotties" have them kill Sun because she's the least hot.:cool: I will respectfully disagree with your assessment. Nobody can claim to be 'hotter' than Sun!

Sorry 'tbb1226'... take a look at the post just prior to yours... You can't kill off that!!!:eek:

Dispensable

Charlie
Boone
Jin
Sun
Michael

Indispensable
Jack
Kate
Sawyer
Locke
Walt
Sayid
Shannon
Hurley
Claire (only because the show would commit demographic suicide by knocking off one of the three caucasian attractive women; I'd personally rather see Claire go than Sun)

rogo... per your list, if earlier postings along this thread are correct, a beloved character is to be killed off... That narrows it down to: Charlie, Sun or Michael.

Maybe Vincent?

Or the old lady who thinks her husband is coming back?

It's also possible that they kill off Jin creating opportunity for Sun and Michael to get together.

Originally posted by rogo

Indispensable
Shannon
Hurley

I don't see how Hurley and Shannon are indespencable. Neither of them seem to have anything big to do with the main story, even though Hurley is great and Shannon is hot.

I don't see how Hurley and Shannon are indespencable. Neither of them seem to have anything big to do with the main story, even though Hurley is great and Shannon is hot.

Which is EXACTLY why they're indispensable. Reason enough for me!

I read where Jack was supposed to die in the first episode in an earlier version of the pilot (Micheal Keaton was rumored for the role)....maybe he'll still get whacked.

I just wish my local channel would Broadcast in HD. I love this show

Originally posted by Karnis
I read where Jack was supposed to die in the first episode in an earlier version of the pilot (Micheal Keaton was rumored for the role)....maybe he'll still get whacked. Poor Kate... that means she will have to settle for Sawyer... but, after all she seemed to enjoy swimming "half-naked" with him in the lagoon. Like almost getting to 2nd Base!:D

maxman -- Precisely... The show needs the female eye candy and Shannon's ability to speak French will be important again, I'm quite certain. Hurley is just too great a character to lose.

karnis -- I can't see them killing off Jack. He ain't perfect, but he brings a certain rationality to the group. Too much chaos would result without him. I know that was the original plan, but it just wouldn't make much sense here.

I just wish my local channel would Broadcast in HD. I love this show

Originally posted by lolowar
I just wish my local channel would Broadcast in HD. I love this show Where did I hear this before? Oh, yeah, three posts earlier!

Are you going to post this once a day until they do broadcast HD? ;)

Originally posted by tbb1226
Where did I hear this before? Oh, yeah, three posts earlier!

Are you going to post this once a day until they do broadcast HD? ;)

Sometimes one must resort to ritualism to try and help things along.:p

Originally posted by lolowar
I just wish my local channel would Broadcast in HD. I love this show Dude... Too bad for you... because it's even better in HD with DD 5.1!:)

Originally posted by optivity
Dude... Too bad for you... because it's even better in HD with DD 5.1!:) LOL - sounds like your going to be running low on salt soon the way you're serving it up. :D

Is there any way to unsubscribe from this thread until something pertinent to the subject is posted? Like, until after 8:00 pm EST Feb. 9? :D

^How bout...not visiting the thread till that certain date and time?

There is a new term hitting the "Internet Water Cooler" discussion people like us...

"Lostaways":D

I thought I would post that I just bought a new HDTV receiver (SIR-T451 with $50 mail in rebate from Samsung) last night to go with my 57" Hitachi S500. :) The good news... I connected an old pair of rabbit ears and picked up only two channels - ABC (Lost) and Fox (Super Bowl). Am I a lucky ba$tard or what? Don't hate. :p

Originally posted by rogo
Dispensable

Charlie
Boone
Jin
Sun
Michael

Indispensable
Jack
Kate
Sawyer
Locke
Walt
Sayid
Shannon
Hurley
Claire

I'll have to disagree a bit with that list. I think they could very well kill off Jack.

Think about his involvement in the recent episodes. He barely makes a showing, and is not even needed in some of the more recent ones. Now that everyone has recovered from their "Crash injuries" the need for jack is decreasing.

Also think about Charlie's statement in one of the last few episodes:
"If there is one person on this Island I trust with my life, it would be John Locke."

Locke is becoming a leader more so than Jack....

Could they kill him off?.. would they?...

Either way, this is still a great show.

Originally posted by Spellbound
I'll have to disagree a bit with that list. I think they could very well kill off Jack.

Think about his involvement in the recent episodes. He barely makes a showing, and is not even needed in some of the more recent ones. Now that everyone has recovered from their "Crash injuries" the need for jack is decreasing.

Also think about Charlie's statement in one of the last few episodes:
"If there is one person on this Island I trust with my life, it would be John Locke."

Locke is becoming a leader more so than Jack....

Could they kill him off?.. would they?...

Either way, this is still a great show.

Loving the show as well, but we disagree a bit.

The show definitely seems to be heading into an US Vs Them scenario, with Locke leading one faction....good or evil we don't know yet. There will be a need for 2 leaders down the line, and Jack is a logical choice (his participation in torture notwithstanding:-)

Wait until someone's appendix goes south, or breaks a leg...they'll miss him when he's gone. Anyone can learn to hunt...being a healer takes years of education. (Sun would be the logical successor with her knowledge of natural herbs, healing, etc).

Originally posted by Spellbound
I'll have to disagree a bit with that list. I think they could very well kill off Jack.

Think about his involvement in the recent episodes. He barely makes a showing, and is not even needed in some of the more recent ones. Now that everyone has recovered from their "Crash injuries" the need for jack is decreasing.

Also think about Charlie's statement in one of the last few episodes:
"If there is one person on this Island I trust with my life, it would be John Locke."

Locke is becoming a leader more so than Jack....

Could they kill him off?.. would they?...

Either way, this is still a great show. Maybe in the episode where Jack get's killed it will be Kate who has to decide between Jack and Sawyer? We all know how that will turn out: when swimming half-naked... that little Bank Robber prefers the bad boy's!:p

Originally posted by Iteki
Loving the show as well, but we disagree a bit.

The show definitely seems to be heading into an US Vs Them scenario, with Locke leading one faction....good or evil we don't know yet. There will be a need for 2 leaders down the line, and Jack is a logical choice (his participation in torture notwithstanding:-)

Wait until someone's appendix goes south, or breaks a leg...they'll miss him when he's gone. Anyone can learn to hunt...being a healer takes years of education. (Sun would be the logical successor with her knowledge of natural herbs, healing, etc).

I just wanted to add one thought that also played into making me think it could be Jack that gets killed off.

Didn't I read somewhere that kate was the intended leader, but Jack's character evolved into the leader.... So he was not intended to be a lead from the start.

It's not a big deal either way, but with all I have heard and seen, it wouldn't suprised me. I sure don't think he is NEEDED....

Originally posted by Spellbound
I just wanted to add one thought that also played into making me think it could be Jack that gets killed off.

Didn't I read somewhere that kate was the intended leader, but Jack's character evolved into the leader.... So he was not intended to be a lead from the start.

It's not a big deal either way, but with all I have heard and seen, it wouldn't suprised me. I sure don't think he is NEEDED....

You're absolutely right in that Jack was going to be killed off originally...but they saw his chemistry with Kate and the others and decided to keep him.

Doctors are like policemen, firemen and soldiers...you don't realize how badly you need them until they aren't around.

Holy Moly! I finally finished reading through this whole thread (made it look more managable when the view was changed to only have 58 pages instead of the 100+ pages!). Now I can finally subscribe!

Got a few comments (to get us back discussing lost)..

1. People who haven't been profiled up to this point:
Jin
Shannon
Rose... the lady who lost her husband
Walt
Hurley

Just because we saw "Partner's" stories (Sun, Boone, Michael) we don't know the truth behind these characters. I'd like to see when Walt first realized about his...
...gift

2. Discussed earlier... there are 48... 46, whatever survivors. Has anyone here gotten on a plane with someone who is in a wheelchair. You know, you arrive early, wait for them to open the doors to get on the plane, etc... The person in the wheelchair always (at least in my business traveling experience)... gets on the plane with the first class passengers, which is FIRST. So, out of the 48... 46 passengers no one bothered noticing locke getting on the plane first? I mean, even if a person is old or infirm and can walk by themselves, and need to be brought on a plane with a wheelchair, one is not going to assume they are going to after a crash JUMP UP and start hunting boar.

3. Another girl on the thread... so where's the pictures of Sawyer? ;)

I had more to say, but I must have gotten drain bamaged from all this reading! I'll think about it and type more later!

Look forward to taking part in the conversation!

I think it was already discussed on this thread awhile back that Locke was sitting in a regular chair, so although he may have boarded early, he was put into the regular chair, and his wheelchair safely stowed away somewhere else, which is why the survivors probably had no idea he was disabled.

Come on, Lost can't come down to Kate choosing between Jack and Sawyer.

Abrams already did that in Felicity.

Originally posted by NorthJersey
I think it was already discussed on this thread awhile back that Locke was sitting in a regular chair, so although he may have boarded early, he was put into the regular chair, and his wheelchair safely stowed away somewhere else, which is why the survivors probably had no idea he was disabled.

I read that, however, that isn't what I was saying. In order to get to his regular seat (given he couldn't walk, they would have to take the wheelchair on the plane to his seat, then help him into his seat. This (from my experience) happens when first class boards (FIRST)... Then after he would have gotten in his seat... the flight staff (from my experience) takes the chair and stows it on board the plane... either giving it to the baggage handlers below or stowing it on board.

Does that make it more clear?
This is not the "Why was he not in a handicapped seat" convo that was covered before... this is the Why did no one see him waiting in his wheelchair to board the plane first, as handicapped passengers generally do? Generally this is about 15 minutes before they start boarding the rest of the coach passengers. Also generally, there are a lot of people waiting to board while this is happening, making those who board first more noticable.

This is the only thing that's bothered me about the show... for some reason, I can suspend reality for the rest of it... (for example... polar bear's fur is actually CLEAR... so it reflects back the color of their environment... so if they were in such a lush green environment, they would be greenish, too! Here's an URL that talks about the biology of bears... Polar Bear Fur (http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/mammals/bear/Polarbearcoloring.shtml) )

Hmmm... Transparent fur, black skin.... what a unique animal! (yes these facts are true...)

No wonder 'the others' wanted to use it for genetic testing! :)

(I'm still going with the underground, genetic laboratory theory.)

Originally posted by bronowyn
I read that, however, that isn't what I was saying. In order to get to his regular seat (given he couldn't walk, they would have to take the wheelchair on the plane to his seat, then help him into his seat. This (from my experience) happens when first class boards (FIRST)... Then after he would have gotten in his seat... the flight staff (from my experience) takes the chair and stows it on board the plane... either giving it to the baggage handlers below or stowing it on board.

Does that make it more clear?
This is not the "Why was he not in a handicapped seat" convo that was covered before... this is the Why did no one see him waiting in his wheelchair to board the plane first, as handicapped passengers generally do? Generally this is about 15 minutes before they start boarding the rest of the coach passengers. Also generally, there are a lot of people waiting to board while this is happening, making those who board first more noticable.

This is the only thing that's bothered me about the show... for some reason, I can suspend reality for the rest of it... (for example... polar bear's fur is actually CLEAR... so it reflects back the color of their environment... so if they were in such a lush green environment, they would be greenish, too! Here's an URL that talks about the biology of bears... Polar Bear Fur (http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/mammals/bear/Polarbearcoloring.shtml) )

Your argument is logical, however, who really looks at the first class/special needs people boarding the plane? I know I don't. I read my magazine or nap until they call my boarding number. In practical terms the only people who would remember him are the crew and first class passengers, and none of them made it alive (that we know of....dramatic music!)

Originally posted by bronowyn
I read that, however, that isn't what I was saying. In order to get to his regular seat (given he couldn't walk, they would have to take the wheelchair on the plane to his seat, then help him into his seat. This (from my experience) happens when first class boards (FIRST)... Then after he would have gotten in his seat... the flight staff (from my experience) takes the chair and stows it on board the plane... either giving it to the baggage handlers below or stowing it on board.[/URL] )

actually, the airlines have a special chair to use onboard because regular wheel chairs will not fit down those aisles! then they 'gate check' the individual's actual chair. not that any of this matters!:D

btw - it's a possibility that he has MS which by nature is very variable disease. one day walking, next day with a cane/ or chair. maybe the crash 'jolted' him to a series of really good days!

Also we don't know if this is a connecting flight and Locke was on-board already the plane stopped in Sydney.

Except that Locke was in Sydney to be on the 'Outback Adventure'....

I don't find it hard to believe they lose money on every episode, but $500K??? Didn't anyone have a calculator with them when they pitched the show and location? Did someone say "oh sh*t" when the extra episodes option was picked up? TV is big business and I can't see them losing that much money PER EPISODE with all the bean counters they have running around nowadays.

Originally posted by eddieras
btw - it's a possibility that he has MS which by nature is very variable disease. one day walking, next day with a cane/ or chair. maybe the crash 'jolted' him to a series of really good days!

I have MS.. which is why I probably have been thinking of locke a lot lately. Usually people with MS aren't paralyzed per se.. it's more a muscle spacicity sorta thing (feeling so stiff that you can't move your muscles, though, they can move), and a pain thing.

I am not even CLOSE to being in a wheelchair... but it made me think about locke a lot.

I LOVE LOST!

Ooh, look I went Senior, how exciting!

my local comcast JUST added ABC, so i have a decision to make - should i jump head-first into LOST so i can start watching in HD, or should i wait for the dvd's?

Something to consider, the PQ on the DVDs will not be as good as the HDTV broadcast...

Truthfully, I would only find the show mildly interesting if Jack were killed off. If Charlie were to be killed off, it would be a little sad -- no more.

I'm sticking with my list until I'm thrown for a loop by the show -- again. :)

Originally posted by oleus
my local comcast JUST added ABC, so i have a decision to make - should i jump head-first into LOST so i can start watching in HD, or should i wait for the dvd's?

Grab the previous eps via ********** to catch up...then watch the rest of the season in HD. It is really the best PQ out there right now, shame to miss it!

Originally posted by oleus
my local comcast JUST added ABC, so i have a decision to make - should i jump head-first into LOST so i can start watching in HD, or should i wait for the dvd's?

Why WOULDN'T you start watching in HD???

Originally posted by oleus
my local comcast JUST added ABC, so i have a decision to make - should i jump head-first into LOST so i can start watching in HD, or should i wait for the dvd's? After you have read all 3468 posts along this thread:eek: go to abc.go.com where you can read a synopsis of each episode of Lost to basically come up to speed; then definitely begin watching the show, any repeats are almost as good as a new episode.

Off topic comments (you guys know which ones) were deleted.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Off topic comments (you guys know which ones) were deleted.

Austin Powers Voice: " OUCH BABY...very OUCH"

I must've missed something good! (or bad...) :D


Maybe it's time for another one of these:
http://www.evangeline-lilly.net/gallery/albums/60/normal_003.jpg

This is nice too: :)
http://www.evangeline-lilly.net/gallery/albums/photoshoots/alison%20dyer%20-%20people/normal_005.jpg

or... how 'bout a foursome?
http://www.evangeline-lilly.net/gallery/albums/photoshoots/alison%20dyer%20-%20us%20weekly/004.jpg

Originally posted by maxman
Why WOULDN'T you start watching in HD??? How good is Lost in HD? There's an employee at our ABC affiliate who doesn't have an HDTV at home, so he works late on Wednesdays just to watch it in HD at the station. We heard about him when one of our AVS members called about trouble with the HD feed during Lost and was assured this guy was working very hard on it.

Originally posted by scowl
How good is Lost in HD?

Quite possibly the best HD program on TV, stunning PQ and audio.

I agree, even better than CSI.

If you have a set that can display excellent shadow details, CSI gets my vote as the best, especially dark scenes. Otherwise, the outdoor and daylight scenes of LOST are the best.
LOST is a perfect candidate for DVD-HD, as mentioned by a previous poster.

Originally posted by scowl
How good is Lost in HD? There's an employee at our ABC affiliate who doesn't have an HDTV at home, so he works late on Wednesdays just to watch it in HD at the station. We heard about him when one of our AVS members called about trouble with the HD feed during Lost and was assured this guy was working very hard on it.
It's seriously the most beautiful program on TV, period. When those daylight scenes go on, like when they go out in the water, or run across the beach, man it looks great. Evangeline Lilly looks so beautiful.

^Duly noted...

Slow learners.... ;)

any references to the above mentioned will most likely be deleted by the moderators here... as they have already done so earlier today....

And anyone that knows about the above mentioned, knows where/how to find them.

thanks for the info guys. looks like i'll start watching tomorrow night! if someone asked me if they should jump into a show like "24" i would say no but it sounds like this one will be worth seeing in HD even if it means missing the beginning of the story.

if it really looks better than CSI, that would be astounding. can't wait!!

To me CSI:Miami is the most beautiful HD show. Lost is in the "top echelon" of HD beauty, though. And, no, I don't mean the lovely ladies.

Yeah but with any kind of rapid motion, I see a smearing. No pixelization in certain spots as with the Fox HD feed on Comcast but the overall screen just seems to blur.

While I am a huge fan of the show....

In my view, the story flow is really hampered by these mid season repeats. All the networks do this now... and for me, as some continuity is lost by this...so is the stories momentum. (Ratings as well?)

Remember the days when an entire season was sequencial? Summer repeats allowed us to enjoy another series we may have missed during the regular season.

Anyway, I guess this current plan may assist in future DVD sales, as many will want the "Start to Finish" experience with no hicups ;)

Anyone read the current TV Guide "Lost Ultimate Guide" ?

Fox says in reference to a characters elimination this season:

"You can't create the kind of stakes and fear we have and constantly have your main characters make it through alive."

It is also mentioned that the cast is unaware who will die, and they are understandably, on edge.

Originally posted by wco81
Yeah but with any kind of rapid motion, I see a smearing. No pixelization in certain spots as with the Fox HD feed on Comcast but the overall screen just seems to blur.

Which is this on? CSI or Lost? I don't see this on either show..with Comcast in the SF bay area..

This is on Lost. A few eps. back, before Kate goes swimming in the Lagoon with Sawyer, it started out showing the jungle. But as the camera panned through the foliage, there was a subtle smearing. Nothing really blatant but the detail in the foliage wasn't the same as when the camera wasn't moving.

Maybe they were using a long lens and depth of field wasn't the best. Or maybe it was a digital artifact. But you really noticed it when Kate wheeled around because she heard something and the camera swung fast.

Originally posted by wco81
Yeah but with any kind of rapid motion, I see a smearing. No pixelization in certain spots as with the Fox HD feed on Comcast but the overall screen just seems to blur. You'll have to tell us what you're watching this on. Some receivers try to do an inverse 3:2 pulldown when they see filmed material. Sometimes this has awful effects like blurring and studdering and needs to be turned off on 30p and 60p broadcasts.

It was my 34XBR910. I don't think I had Cinemotion on but not sure. Using the standard picture setting and it was a Motorola box from Comcast connected via component.

Previews for next weeks episode look mighty interesting. :)

Originally posted by Spellbound
Previews for next weeks episode look mighty interesting. :) Yup, looks like somebody's gonna die and Kate looked mighty unhappy about it...

BTW... Anyone have a problem with the HD audio portion during Lost last night? There were so many 'popping' like sounds I had to watch it on the SD channel.:( Naturally, I have 15 HD channels all broadcasting fine, but the only one I was interested in seeing from 8 - 9 last night had such a poor audio feed I couldn't watch it.

Anyone seen this website?

www.driveshaftband.com

Originally posted by Spellbound
Previews for next weeks episode look mighty interesting. :)

Agreed. It looks like claire escapes and then they use her as bait to try and catch ethan. There is a gun, a shot and a body bag. who is dead? I say it is is sawyer, but it could be jack. pretty sure it is not ethan, as everyone looked said about it. Or could it be claire? tune in next week.

Originally posted by jsantors
Agreed. It looks like claire escapes and then they use her as bait to try and catch ethan. There is a gun, a shot and a body bag. who is dead? I say it is is sawyer, but it could be jack. pretty sure it is not ethan, as everyone looked said about it. Or could it be claire? tune in next week.

To my untrained eye, it actually looked like Claire has a big belly silhoutte in one of those shots. So---does she still have the baby??? :confused:

Anyone with a TIVO care to check (as I didn't think to TIVO it last night since it was a repeat....)

I notice that Jack is not mentioned in any of the upcoming episodes beyond the next episode at tvtome

didn't watch last night's repeat, thus I missed the coming attractions. Where the heck would they have found a body bag on the island ?

dlan-
the character you refer to in your spoiler line is indeed the subject of an upcoming episode, I think it is #18, this according to the website www.lost-tv.com. Way cool and tons of pics of upcoming episodes, so don't play around too much on there if you don't like spoilers.

Originally posted by jaypb
To my untrained eye, it actually looked like Claire has a big belly silhoutte in one of those shots. So---does she still have the baby??? :confused:

Anyone with a TIVO care to check (as I didn't think to TIVO it last night since it was a repeat....)

what if it's not a TIVO but another brand DVR? Do you still want them to look?


I gotta go get a KLEENEX and XEROX something ... i'll be back in a bit.

I gotta go get a KLEENEX and XEROX something ... i'll be back in a bit.Hey, bring me back a COKE, while you're at it.

Dunno if this is a spoiler, but just in caseOK, so not only does Charlie feel guilty about not being able to help Claire, but now she's not going to remember him (since she doesn't remember anything since the crash), and he has to start all over again...poor sod.And people mentioned in upcoming episodes that can't be in the body bag:Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Sayid, Charlie, Michael, Jin, Sun, Boone, Shannon, Locke

That seems to leave Walt and Claire, or Ethan, Scott, etc.
Xesdeeni

You know, I just looked at the pics at www.lost-tv.com and I don't think I see any key characters missing. They're all mentioned in either the text or visible in the photos. There is one thing I did notice however:
It talked about Charlies' brush with death and how he's dealing with it. It's been several episodes since his last brush with death, so you'd think he's over it by now. So mayber he has another... dude must be immortal or something....
Just my $.02

It is possible that we see a character die, and then get their back story in a future episode. I wouldn't make much sense since the back stories are told from that person's point of view... but it could happen.

or they could die then come back to life by some chemicals that are present in the soil where they're buried ...

stranger things have happened in this show.

Well, I guess I'm done reading this thread. I thought there was a 'gentlemen's agreement' not to disclose stuff from the previews.

Originally posted by jackshakes
or they could die then come back to life by some chemicals that are present in the soil where they're buried ...

stranger things have happened in this show.

Kind of like Pet Cemetery!?! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by rdwalt
Kind of like Pet Cemetery!?! :rolleyes: "Sometimes dead is better..."

If the death of a 'beloved' character follows the past promo... you remember...

"watch tonight & pay special attention to the details that answer what's on everyone's mind..."

or something to that effect... I'm not placing a lot of value in the idea a major character gets killed off next week, but maybe before season's end. And being dead for 2 minutes doesn't count.

Originally posted by Buji
Well, I guess I'm done reading this thread. I thought there was a 'gentlemen's agreement' not to disclose stuff from the previews. No offense, but previews are previews. They come on right after the show for all to see and as has been mentioned by many, in this show they many times are purposely misleading anyway. They give people stuff to talk about and conjecture over. Sometimes I think the "complete absence of any knowledge whatsoever" about future ep is a little over the top. I mean really, people not even wanting to read the tv guide descriptions for the next show? Some things just can't be agreed to :). Sorry...

ron