Originally posted by dlan
Or the elevated subway in the Bronx

or how about George Steinbrenner after the Sawks came back 3-0 to beat the Yanks and win the series!

Originally posted by dlan
In the Lost spin-offs we will learn that there are more of those "hatch" on other islands with similar transmissions all over the world... Can't wait for Lost - Atlantic Ocean Edition:D

oh, yeah, I know that episode you're referring to. Isn't that when Jeff Goldblum cracked the code from the satellites on his computer, then drove to D.C. to tell the president, and then the Bad Boy flies in and punches the alien, Jeff and BB then fly into the Alien spaceship and the world is saved ! The writers are genuises!

Originally posted by NorthJersey
or how about George Steinbrenner after the Sawks came back 3-0 to beat the Yanks and win the series!

:-)

Originally posted by PJO1966
... and he's not white, he's Latino.

"Latino" is not a race. Latinos can be black, white, or whatever.

Originally posted by NorthJersey
oh, yeah, I know that episode you're referring to. Isn't that when Jeff Goldblum cracked the code from the satellites on his computer, then drove to D.C. to tell the president, and then the Bad Boy flies in and punches the alien, Jeff and BB then fly into the Alien spaceship and the world is saved ! The writers are genuises!

Steve Jobs is the genius. Jeff did all that computation and virus writing on a Mac. :)

PLEASE

....use spoiler tags if you MUST post spoilers.

Originally posted by StStSt
"Latino" is not a race.Tell that to the PC police. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by jackshakes
For that matter how do they in fact know they're on an island? I don't think any of them have explored enough to walk all the way around it.

Reminds me of a Simpsons episode (but then again, my friends think everything reminds me of either a moment from Simpsons or Futurama)...

"Monster Island..."
"I thought it was just a name!"
"What he meant was 'Monster Island' is actually a peninsula."

Originally posted by CPanther95

....use spoiler tags if you MUST post spoilers.
I did use tags. Doesnt everybody know about the BIG thing happening this season? Every entertainment article about Lost has had JJ Abrams or one of the producers saying that.

no ... but I think everyone knows about the speculation regarding that one big thing ...

Originally posted by neoufo51
I did use tags. Doesnt everybody know about the BIG thing happening this season? Every entertainment article about Lost has had JJ Abrams or one of the producers saying that.

No, we don't. (I do now, though)

If you didn't see it aired on the show or previews, IT IS A SPOILER.

We can all Google and find as many spoilers as we would like. The problem in this thread is that some assume if it is an old spoiler, it's now OK to discuss openly.

Maybe we should set up a separate thread for spoilers like we did for 24 just so there's no doubt.

Originally posted by CPanther95


Maybe we should set up a separate thread for spoilers like we did for 24 just so there's no doubt.

I thought you had already? I must be confusing my shows..

I agree, if it hasn't been shown in the hour the show is on TV, including previews(which would probably be the only thing you'd see in commercials leading up to the next episode), then it's a spoiler, why is that so hard to understand?

Just pretend the only time we turn our TVs on is at 8PM on Wednesdays nights, everything else is a spoiler...:D

Originally posted by keenan
I thought you had already? I must be confusing my shows..

I agree, if it hasn't been shown in the hour the show is on TV, including previews(which would probably be the only thing you'd see in commercials leading up to the next episode), then it's a spoiler, why is that so hard to understand?
I understand it just fine.

OK, there's now a separate Spoiler thread for LOST located gere:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=5295472#post5295472

Please post any spoilers in that thread and confine discussion of the spoilers in that thread. Continue to use spoiler tags for the benefit of any newbies that stumble upon it.

This thread will be reserved for LOST discussion and "raw" speculation based only on the episode/previews previously aired. Spoilers in this thread will be deleted.

Can't we just make spoiler tags optional for the Lost spoilers thread since it is titled "Lost spoilers" That way we can speak freely about it and whoever stumbles on to it, they should know better because of the title?

The assumption by some may be that spoilers will still be "spoilerized".

How about adding "Untagged Spoilers" to the name of the thread? That way if anyone wanders in there they were warned. Personally I'll be keeping clear of that thread. Thanks for keeping spoilers apart from the regular discussion.

Originally posted by CPanther95
The assumption by some may be that spoilers will still be "spoilerized".
Well lets just break that assumption by adding to the title "untagged" spoilers.

As many people know, "spoilers" for Lost arent "all knowing" about the show. We spoiler happy people just talk about the show with a slightly more advanced knowledge of the show but are still mostly in the dark because the producers are damn good at keeping secrets.

Originally posted by CPanther95
OK, there's now a separate Spoiler thread for LOST located gere:

Thank you.

Originally posted by neoufo51
Doesnt everybody know about the BIG thing happening this season?
no

Originally posted by mx6bfast


no
In that case you better not read anything in any magazine or newspaper about Lost because its very well known by now.

Count me in with the blissfully ignorant. I don't read newspapers or magazines. That's what the internet is for. It makes it very easy to pick and choose what knowledge I wish to seek out. I don't want to know anything that will spoil the enjoyment of my favorite TV shows and any movies I may want to see. Therefore I stay away from sites that will expose me to stuff I do not want to know.

Originally posted by PJO1966
Count me in with the blissfully ignorant.

Me too...:)

Originally posted by neoufo51
In that case you better not read anything in any magazine or newspaper about Lost because its very well known by now.

Many of us don't.

OK, there's now a separate Spoiler thread for LOST located gere:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=5295472#post5295472

Well, there goes THIS thread down the drain.

Originally posted by maxman
Well, there goes THIS thread down the drain.

How much you want to bet that there are a lot more people enjoying this show that don't want spoilers?

Originally posted by CPanther95
How much you want to bet that there are a lot more people enjoying this show that don't want spoilers?

Not as much as I'd bet that people will still post spoilers here...:p :D

Spoiler deleted ;)

Originally posted by CPanther95
How much you want to bet that there are a lot more people enjoying this show that don't want spoilers?

If there's going to be a separate spoiler thread for every show, why have spoiler tags in the first place? It's just another thread to keep track of and is going to be very confusing, what with replys and all. My vote is for 1 thread.

too much hand-holding, IMO....

I'll bet that other thread dies quickily..

The problem is the definition of spoiler has been difficult for some to comprehend. It's a pain to have two threads, but it's only those that want spoilers that need to check the other thread. It will also make it easier to confine the spoiler discussions within that thread and keep the discussion to speculation here.

That's easier than 2 ongoing conversations that overlap within this thread.

It will also make it easier to confine the spoiler discussions within that thread and keep the discussion to speculation here.

Wanna bet? If people can't comprehend the spoiler protocol, what makes you think they're going to comprehend that they're supposed to be posting elsewhere? You're going to be spending all of your time chastising people for incorrect postings and/or moving incorrect postings. Have fun! (respectfully)

I can't move them, only delete them.

and keep up the good work

Originally posted by bobby94928
and keep up the good work

Regardless of my opinion about the 2nd thread, I concur with Bobby C. Being a moderator is a close-to-full-time thankless job, and this is a well-run and well-moderated thread, all 4,791 posts of it. Thank you for a job well done!

I'm not looking for kudos. And I'm abusing my power a tiny little bit for the sake of my personal interest in LOST and 24. These are my 2 favorite shows, and the only shows each week that I fire up the HT to watch (even though I have to sit through commercials) - and I don't want to see spoilers.

There are some things I have to do that I can't avoid seeing them, like when I split off a thread/or do any editing - the spoiler tags are not present.

Tolerate me on these two shows and I'll owe you all one. ;)

Originally posted by neoufo51
In that case you better not read anything in any magazine or newspaper about Lost because its very well known by now.

ok

CPanther maybe you should rename this thread to "no-spoiler LOST" so people will see not to post spoilers here?

hehe, yeah those spolers are a painful!!!

Yeah, hate those dang spolers! (couldn't resist - sorry!)

Originally posted by CPanther95
I'm not looking for kudos. And I'm abusing my power a tiny little bit for the sake of my personal interest in LOST and 24. These are my 2 favorite shows, and the only shows each week that I fire up the HT to watch (even though I have to sit through commercials) - and I don't want to see spoilers.

There are some things I have to do that I can't avoid seeing them, like when I split off a thread/or do any editing - the spoiler tags are not present.

Tolerate me on these two shows and I'll owe you all one. ;)

I understand. I just hate the thought of breaking up this great big happy family!

I think we might be better off if repeated spoiler offender has their posting privileges to this tread suspended for a few days instead... I also feel we are all mature here and this much hand holding should not be required.

I agree that being a moderator is a close-to-full-time thankless job, and this is a well-run and well-moderated thread.

Thank you for a job well done!

Originally posted by maxman
I understand. I just hate the thought of breaking up this great big happy family!

This is the only reason I don't like the two thread idea.:mad:

Everyone should stay and participate. It's just the spoilers and spoiler discussion should go to the other thread.

Originally posted by CPanther95
And I'm abusing my power a tiny little bit for the sake of my personal interest in LOST and 24.

Go for it, "take no prisoners" would be my motto...:D

Originally posted by CPanther95
Everyone should stay and participate. It's just the spoilers and spoiler discussion should go to the other thread.
Will do. You wont see any spoilers from me in here or in the 24 thread from me.

I don't want to see the spoilers. I look forward to being surprised by a new episode and *watching* it unfold. Spoilers are for Cliffs Notes readers, IMHO.

When I see a trailer for a new movie that I want to see, I only see the trailer once, avoid all ther other trailers and all the special "making of" TV shows. These things give away too much and *spoil* the movie. By the time the movie arrives, I'm ready for it and don't feel like I've see it all before.

It's like knowing what one is getting for Christmas. I want to be surprised!

Paul

Can we get back on topic now? Think Kate will find a bikini to wear? :-)

Originally posted by tobwco
Can we get back on topic now? Think Kate will find a bikini to wear? :-)
Bikini? We don't need no stinkin' bikini!! :D
BTW, my vote is for two separate threads, also, if it takes away the temptation to read the spoilers, most of which didn't really seem to be spoilers anyway. I don't want to watch the program only to validate what I might have already read would happen. That's also why I don't read books; it might give away any future movie!! ;)

Has anyone heard if they're gonna pull an Alias and hold LOST's 2nd season until January?

Damn...It's hard enough to keep up with one LOST thread...now there's TWO???:(

Five more weeks until the next episode??? I can only guess how many posts will be made in each. What the heck was the matter with the spoiler tags???

You'll need to go over to the Spoilers thread to discuss it there.

Alias was delayed till January because Abrams couldn't deliver eps without significant gaps to get the complex ones done. Lost is shot in fewer locations, so it might be possible to order the full season and deliver them in near real-time.

If not, I suspect the show will start late to allow a backlog to develop.

Originally posted by tobwco
Can we get back on topic now? Think Kate will find a bikini to wear? :-)
I dunno, her panties and bra have been doing pretty well for me...I mean for her so far. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by CPanther95
Has anyone heard if they're gonna pull an Alias and hold LOST's 2nd season until January?

I haven't heard of any such plan, but if anyone with control over programming at ABC is reading this thread, I would vote "Yes" if given the choice. Although I hated the idea at first with Alias, I now feel it is better to have all the new shows running back to back. Presumably they will rerun the episodes in the same manner.

With a show like Lost, I feel it would flow better without a break in continuity.

Since we are on this, like 39 year hiatus, how many episodes are left in the season? Will they run back-to-back until the season finale?

According to episode guides they have shown 18 epsiodes so far. They list a total of 22 episodes. I can't see them haveing more than 24 episodes, but I think a regular season is 22 episodes. If that is the case there are only 4 more episodes for the season or 6 if it is a 24 episode season.

LOST episode guide (http://epguides.com/lost/)

i read that, but I thought that they were doing 24 shows this season?

I don't know where I heard that, though.

I can go either way regarding a separate spoiler thread but I have to suggest that practically any discussion of events about an aired episode will be a "spoiler" for those who, for whatever reason, happen to miss that original broadcast.

YMMV

Originally posted by bronowyn
i read that, but I thought that they were doing 24 shows this season?

I don't know where I heard that, though.

I read that (24 eps) at Ain't It Cool News, the world's most reliable entertainment news source.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by MrMike6by9
I can go either way regarding a separate spoiler thread but I have to suggest that practically any discussion of events about an aired episode will be a "spoiler" for those who, for whatever reason, happen to miss that original broadcast.

YMMV True, but it's the same as finding out about the "twist" ending of a movie you haven't seen yet by listening to your friends talk about it around the water cooler. You have to walk away if the topic comes up, and avoid people talking about it already!

Originally posted by aaronwt
According to episode guides they have shown 18 epsiodes so far. They list a total of 22 episodes. I can't see them haveing more than 24 episodes, but I think a regular season is 22 episodes. If that is the case there are only 4 more episodes for the season or 6 if it is a 24 episode season.

LOST episode guide (http://epguides.com/lost/)

They've shown 18 so far?! Wow... I've gotten so wrapped up in the show I didn't realize they've shown so many.

man, if we can't even tag spoilers, or even speculate w/o spoiler tags, this thread is gonna get pretty lean over the next 5 wks

24 eps this season, I'm pretty sure, so 6 more to go - probably 2 in April and then the last 4 for the 4 Wednesdays in the sweeps month of May.

We can speculate all we want, since that isn't a spoiler.

Here is something that would sort of relate as a point to ponder. What about hearing things that we know don't happen or ideas that we are told are not true, such as how Abrams has stated repeatedly that they are not in purgatory. Would that be considered a spoiler? It falls under all the same categories as a spoiler but it is about something that is not true.

Originally posted by NorthJersey
man, if we can't even tag spoilers, or even speculate w/o spoiler tags, this thread is gonna get pretty lean over the next 5 wks Speculation is allowed here - just not actual upcoming information not released via the show or the teasers following it.

I think they went with 24 episodes this season because they are not counting the pilot as part of the season. The pilot is usually not counted as part of the first season of any series and like many pilots, it was a two parter that breaks into two episodes when aired.

Originally posted by NorthJersey
man, if we can't even tag spoilers, or even speculate w/o spoiler tags, this thread is gonna get pretty lean over the next 5 wks


:confused:

Last time I'll define "spoiler".

Anything that has not aired on the show or a preview - THAT IS A KNOW FACT FROM A SOURCE OTHER THAN THE SHOW OR A PREVIEW - is a spoiler.

Any speculation would not be considered a spoiler. Any discussion about where the show may head over the next few episodes - or few seasons - would not be considered a spoiler.

Suggesting Walt will kill Locke is speculation, not a spoiler. Suggesting the numbers actually correspond to ages is also speculation.

The teasers following the show are not spoilers and are fair game for discussion. I would have to venture as far as to assume that anything shown in a commercial for the show is fair game as well.

Are there people participating in this thread that are really so dumb that they can't tell the difference between a real spoiler and mere speculation?? Do we really need a separate thread for those cranially-challenged individuals?

Let's table this discussion, as it's gone round and round with no end in sight. We now have 2 threads, one for show discussion and speculation, one for spoilers only. Let's just accept that and move on. 5 more weeks of bickering won't help the situation :-)

Here's a few pics:


http://tv.yahoo.com/tvpdb?d=tvi&id=1808581402&cf=pg&pgid=&index=60

http://www.hancinema.net/korean_Kim_Yoon-jin.php

Neat site by the way.

Speaking of Kim Yoon-jin (Sun), she was in a Korean movie called Shiri, which was actually a pretty good action flick:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0192657/

You know what we should do in this time off? Lets make a list of all the "questions" that we are still wanting answers for. That will be a long list and take some time to compile.

I'll start with some (mosty obvious)-

What is the "monster"? and why did it sound familiar?
Who were the dead bodies in the cave? What was with the rocks they had?
What is the Black Rock?
Who are the others? Where are they from originally? How many are there?
What is in the hatch?
What is the "sickness" that got Russeous' (sp.) party?
Where is the cable coming from?
How did the polar bears get there?
How much power does Walt have? Does he know of it or control it at all?

Ok, theres a start!

I'm all for starting the season later and running the episodes back-to-back. I'm really enjoying watching 24 this way. Lost should be seen consecutively as well.

Where REALLY is the black lady's husband?
How long will it be before you can't tell Hurley and Jack apart, except for the hair?

Originally posted by CPanther95
Has anyone heard if they're gonna pull an Alias and hold LOST's 2nd season until January?

I haven't read anything about this show, but there has been talk of some networks shifting their traditional premier dates around September to later or earlier, I think Fox is one that is doing this...

Rant on..

On a related subject, I get sick and tired at the disregard some networks seem to display for their viewers when it comes to airing new episodes. It has become a blatant practice to air new eps during sweeps(ratings) periods and fill much of the rest of the time with repeats or even other programming. I understand that broadcast TV is ad revenue generated, but do they have to stick in our face and be so cavalier about it? After awhile you would think that the advertisers would realize that the ratings are really a sham or a house of cards..

Rant off...:p

Originally posted by GrantMeThePower

What is in the hatch?


A fat gay guy...it's the Richard hatch... /rimshot.

5 weeks and counting....

Originally posted by hefe
A fat gay guy...it's the Richard hatch... /rimshot.

5 weeks and counting....

ouch. 5 weeks is a very long time.

How did they survive the plane breaking in half?

Originally posted by wco81
How did they survive the plane breaking in half?

<the sound of crickets chirping>

With a DVD release date set for Sept, my guess is the show will return that same month...

What is the deal with the ties the various survivors have to those numbers and the other commonalities in their pasts? Coincidence, something more involved or just TV show gimmicks?

How did Locke get mobility again? (BTW, did he bother telling anyone? Jack might have just said oh yeah there are a lot of cases of paraplegics being "cured" by trauma -- probably not but they could come up with some pseudo-medical explanation).

Name that movie...

"Now lets go do that voodoo that you do so well!"

Voodoo is pseudo science, right?

Maybe there's a tiki doll in that Hatch... oh, wait, someone already said that with the Brady Bunch connection... ;)

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Name that movie...

"Now lets go do that voodoo that you do so well!"

Voodoo is pseudo science, right?

Maybe there's a tiki doll in that Hatch... oh, wait, someone already said that with the Brady Bunch connection... ;)

Easy...Blazing Saddles--one of the funniest movies of all time!

I want to know why, after over a month, there's no loving going on. Sayid's really the only one workin on it. Sawyer to a lesser degree. Jack acts like he's waiting for marriage - Charlie is friendship building with the one girl on the island that's been intimate in the last 9 months - Locke has use of his lower body for the first time in 4 years and he spends all his time playing survivalist - Jin dumps the only woman he can communicate with - Now that Sun is available, Michael takes up a hobby - Hurley scored a hug, but considering he's apparently the only one on the island Rousseau doesn't want to torture or shoot and Rousseau's last "experience" is likely measured in years not months, copping a hug doesn't seem that impressive. Boone's lack of interest is understandable since he's run out of sisters on the island.

I'll give even odds that whoever delivers Claire's baby will be the first one on the island to finally get ................. oh, never mind.

Originally posted by keenan
With a DVD release date set for Sept, my guess is the show will return that same month...

Or later, to give time for people to catch up watching the season.

Alias Season 3 was released on DVD 9/7/04. Season 4 premiered 1/5/05.

Originally posted by shadowbox
There are no accidents or coincidences in this show. Some how in the future that person falling will be tied in to the arch of the story. (It would be kind of cool if they completely ignored it for 2 seasons and then had a story line in a couple of years that showed the backstory of the fall...)

I've been offline for the better part of a week, so please forgive me if this has been mentioned before...I'm trying to catch up, really!

Any chance the falling person was the "man Kate loved"? We know he died, or was killed by Kate, but no details.

Originally posted by htevolution
Any chance the falling person was the "man Kate loved"? We know he died, or was killed by Kate, but no details.

No chance; none, nada, zip. It was done for comic effect, nothing more. Really, folks, we don't have to speculate on every single moment from every scene as being relevant to the plot.

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Originally posted by archiguy
No chance; none, nada, zip. It was done for comic effect, nothing more. Really, folks, we don't have to speculate on every single moment from every scene as being relevant to the plot.
How can you be so sure?

I admit to agreeing with you, but I'm not 100% sure like you.... the writers could easily and creatively build that into another flashback to relate another connection the survivors have with eachother... I wouldn't be suprised either way... In fact, if it is used in a flashback, I think that would be even funnier!

Originally posted by archiguy
Really, folks, we don't have to speculate on every single moment from every scene as being relevant to the plot. Actually, with 5 weeks before any new episodes, we may need to do just that to stay "in the game."

Originally posted by JayDog_2
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The rankings have changed... ;)

I dropped a rank!!!

Darn girlfriend has been monopolizing my time...doesn't she know she's cutting into my posting? :-)

On the other hand if you remove posts that argued about what is/is not a spoiler, I'm right back in the mix :-)

Originally posted by archiguy
Really, folks, we don't have to speculate on every single moment from every scene as being relevant to the plot.

You think it's bad now, just wait a week or two longer, with no new shows and extra free time people will start to come up with all kinds of "interesting" ideas - like this one: perhaps Hurley really did win the lottery and the numbers are really cursed, but one his way to meet the one legged women (sorry don't remember her name) he fell asleep on the plan and all of this, everything we have been watching has been a dream!

Nah! Ok, it's a total crappy idea, but I'm trying to get into the swing of things to come! :D

Originally posted by JayDog_2
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hehe - they all have more posts in this thread then I do on the whole board!

Wow. And I went 2 months without posting.

Yeah, and clearly the biggest gainer was CPanther95... with all his moderating and spoiler use guidelines and crap like that... :D

Hey, my last post was detailed and thought provoking - unlike this one and your last 3 :)

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
The teasers following the show are not spoilers and are fair game for discussion. I would have to venture as far as to assume that anything shown in a commercial for the show is fair game as well.

Not according to the rules!

:D hey, 1 of my last 3 was, um, not pointless anyways... ;)

Speaking of your last detailed and thought-provoking post... good points...
There needs to be more love... I think we are definitelly due for another swim in the lagoon with Kate... or even Shannon...

Hey, remember Sawyer got that hot kiss from Kate... made me hungry...

More questions to be answered:

Exactly how did Kate kill the dude she says she killed?
What is the significance of the toy plane she was so hot to get from the case?
Did Sawyer have anything to do with Jack's dad's death? If not, why was he being dragged into the police station while Boone was making his report? If yes, why was he on the plane and not in jail?
What is Sawyer's real name? (this may have been answered, but I don't remember).
How does Hurley know the crazy dude who told him about the numbers?
Was he a patient at the looney bin or not?
How did he get his nickname?
What is the purpose of that ridiculous cable that comes out of the ocean into the ground in the middle of the jungle?
What did the Aussie psychic see about Claire's baby? Why did he put her on the plane? Did he really know it would crash?
Where the hell is this island? Is it even really an island?
Why has no search team found them yet?

Lots to learn over the rest of this series. I hope it sticks around long enough to explain everything.

I've been offline for the better part of a week, so please forgive me if this has been mentioned before...I'm trying to catch up, really!

Just don't post any spoilers!

Originally posted by JayDog_2
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Does CPanther95 really count, since he's the moderator?

nice curves....
http://64.202.180.6/photostars/mar2/aw2k/LotImg1059.jpg

Originally posted by CPanther95
I want to know why, after over a month, there's no loving going on.

Because it's on at 8PM, now, if they move it to 10PM, get a few nudity clauses in the actors contracts, then we'd be in business...:p

Originally posted by tbb1226
More questions to be answered:

Exactly how did Kate kill the dude she says she killed?
What is the significance of the toy plane she was so hot to get from the case?
Did Sawyer have anything to do with Jack's dad's death? If not, why was he being dragged into the police station while Boone was making his report? If yes, why was he on the plane and not in jail?
What is Sawyer's real name? (this may have been answered, but I don't remember).
How does Hurley know the crazy dude who told him about the numbers?
Was he a patient at the looney bin or not?
How did he get his nickname?
What is the purpose of that ridiculous cable that comes out of the ocean into the ground in the middle of the jungle?
What did the Aussie psychic see about Claire's baby? Why did he put her on the plane? Did he really know it would crash?
Where the hell is this island? Is it even really an island?
Why has no search team found them yet?

Lots to learn over the rest of this series. I hope it sticks around long enough to explain everything.

The cable that comes out of the ocean is for power. It goes to the lair where Rousseau had her lights and batteries. It is most likely a cable to some sort of underwater generator which charges the batteries.

How did the psychic really know the plane would crash? - DUH! He's psychic!

Is it an island - yes, because if it wasn't then it would be a peninsula and part of Australia and they would have been rescued.

Why a search team hasn't found them yet - they were 1,000 miles off course with no radio when they crashed and so unless the search area was 3.14 million square miles, they wouldn't find them. Plus there is no way there would still be a search party out for them after a week for a plane crash in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, let alone nearing 40 days.

Originally posted by keenan
Because it's on at 8PM, now, if they move it to 10PM, get a few nudity clauses in the actors contracts, then we'd be in business...:p

Really. This is post-Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction prime-time network TV we're talking about here. Now it if moved to HBO, ...

-Chris

Originally posted by archiguy
No chance; none, nada, zip. It was done for comic effect, nothing more. Really, folks, we don't have to speculate on every single moment from every scene as being relevant to the plot.

I agree, if we have a need to explain the guy falling, then we need to explain why Hurley was arrested for being a drug dealer. All of theses things along with, Grandpa died suddenly, Aunt struck by lightning, sister-in-law left his brother for a woman, mom broke her ankle, new house caught on fire, and a guy falling all were used to pound home the idea that Hurley was having bad luck. Are we going to have to explain how all these other occurrences fit into the overall plot?

Originally posted by maxman
Does CPanther95 really count, since he's the moderator?

Who? :D :p

Mod post counts don't "count".

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/de-ravin-emilie-photo-emilie-de-ravin-6200598.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/ally006.jpg

Here are some more questions:

Why did we get two back stories on Kate, Sawyer, and Charlie before we even got the first one on Hurley?

Is there any main character left whom we haven't seen a back story on? (Does the woman with the missing husband count as a main character?)

Is Claire's baby a boy, a girl, or neither?

Why didn't they give Charlie more of a hard time for wasting so many of their extremely limited supply of bullets? I mean the guy didn't really need five to the chest, did he?

Why haven't they started building some more permanent shelter? Maybe one that includes a stockade that can keep out boars and polar bears?

What the heck have the thirty-some other people been doing for the past month?


-Chris

You had to 'one-up' me, didn't you... ;)

Thanks, BTW...

Originally posted by keenan
Because it's on at 8PM, now, if they move it to 10PM, get a few nudity clauses in the actors contracts, then we'd be in business...:p

Let's not paint with too broad a stroke --- let's say CERTAIN contracts. Depending on the actor, they could LOSE viewers.

Originally posted by 4HiMarks
Why didn't they give Charlie more of a hard time for wasting so many of their extremely limited supply of bullets? I mean the guy didn't really need five to the chest, did he?
-Chris

Based on our previous exposure to Ethan, I'm not sure 5 bullets really got the job done... :eek:

Originally posted by JayDog_2
You had to 'one-up' me, didn't you... ;)

Thanks, BTW...

You know, looking at that last pic, I'm not so sure she even looks 18...

FYI, Lost just premiered in Latin America and Germany this week...

Originally posted by keenan
You know, looking at that last pic, I'm not so sure she even looks 18...
No, she doesn't... I am a dirty, dirty man... :D

Originally posted by keenan
Based on our previous exposure to Ethan, I'm not sure 5 bullets really got the job done... :eek:

Ohh. You're right. There's another question: Is Ethan really dead? Could he survive being shot in the chest and then buried?

-Chris

nice pictures...
http://img.actressarchives.com/maggieg/4201990_Maggi_Grani.jpg

Ah. You're killin' me. Now here's a question I'm sure everyone is dyin to know the answer to.

We know they have bamboo, since Michael is using it in the raft. They also have fresh water at elevation from the waterfall Kate and Sawyer found. So where are the bamboo pipes carrying running water to someplace where Kate (and, uh, anyone else) can take a shower?

-Chris

Originally posted by 4HiMarks
Really. This is post-Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction prime-time network TV we're talking about here. Now it if moved to HBO, ...

-Chris

Now that is a great idea.....

Have there been any signs of Hurley's curse hurting anyone since they have been on the island?

- Tom

Originally posted by 4HiMarks
Ohh. You're right. There's another question: Is Ethan really dead? Could he survive being shot in the chest and then buried?

-Chris

When they showed the guys burying him, his chest was clearly moving up and down, even though he was supposed to be dead.

Originally posted by trbarry
Have there been any signs of Hurley's curse hurting anyone since they have been on the island?

- Tom

After the plane crash - and other than those that have died I assume? ;)

Originally posted by cyberbri
When they showed the guys burying him, his chest was clearly moving up and down, even though he was supposed to be dead.
Right. We've covered that. But then they buried him. Unless this is some sort of Pet Semetary-like place (which I'm not ruling out, although I think it'd be a cop-out) then he should have suffocated in short order.

-Chris

Originally posted by trbarry
Have there been any signs of Hurley's curse hurting anyone since they have been on the island?

- Tom There was the near miss with Charlie on the rope bridge that Hurley himself crossed without incident...

Originally posted by bobby94928
Now that is a great idea.....

I would have to agree with that.

Originally posted by mstahlkr
I would have to agree with that.
So then we can have 13 episode seasons and 18 month breaks? No, thanks. :)

Originally posted by Unoriginal Nick
So then we can have 13 episode seasons and 18 month breaks? No, thanks. :)

But that would be 13 episodes w/o commercials. That's only about 1.6 hours less of actual programming.

The 18 month breaks does kind of suck though.

Originally posted by JayDog_2
nice curves....
(Picture of Evangeline)

Killing me, JayDog! Killing me!

If there's all this talk about black and white rocks... (the people in the cave... the backgammon set... etc)... If there's a BLACK ROCK... shouldn't there be a WHITE ROCK on the island?

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
The cable that comes out of the ocean is for power. It goes to the lair where Rousseau had her lights and batteries. It is most likely a cable to some sort of underwater generator which charges the batteries.


Along these lines, what does everyone think they'll do with the battery that Rousseau gave to Hurley? Maybe a search for the radio tower is upcoming after all...though I think there's plenty of evidence that that would be a colossal waste of time. Then again, all they've got its time...

Originally posted by trbarry
Have there been any signs of Hurley's curse hurting anyone since they have been on the island?

- Tom

I raised this a couple of days ago to near-resounding silence. . . ;-)

I also noted that Walt's winning (repeatedly) at backgammon seemed to indicate that Hurley's good luck had run out. . . the one comment that came back was that maybe Walt wanting the rolls trumped Hurley's luck. . . hard to believe, since there was money involved, which seems to be at the root of Hurleys luck.

Hurley's luck seems to have had a long and powerful reach. Walt's seems to be closer range, operating on the assumption that the polar bears were already on the island (as Rouseau seems to indicate).

Hey, we've gotta talk about SOMETHING. ;-)

Markd

Originally posted by keenan
I agree, if we have a need to explain the guy falling, then we need to explain why Hurley was arrested for being a drug dealer. All of theses things along with, Grandpa died suddenly, Aunt struck by lightning, sister-in-law left his brother for a woman, mom broke her ankle, new house caught on fire, and a guy falling all were used to pound home the idea that Hurley was having bad luck. Are we going to have to explain how all these other occurrences fit into the overall plot?

No, we don't have to explain them all. However, all the others were related or at least close to his daily "bad luck." He warned the guy on the ladder at the hospital as if proximity to Hurley was all it took to bring on bad things.

The guy falling/jumping doesn't fit into either of these categories as far as we know. I think that's why some of us are looking for a possible link to other characters or story lines.

What, being in the same building isn't close enough physically? How close did Hurley's aunt get when she was struck by lightning? I don't think she was exactly 10 ft. away, although that might explain Hurley's frizzy hair.

Originally posted by bronowyn
If there's all this talk about black and white rocks... (the people in the cave... the backgammon set... etc)... If there's a BLACK ROCK... shouldn't there be a WHITE ROCK on the island?

There is... the White Polar Bear... Rocky. :p

Originally posted by mdesmarais
also noted that Walt's winning (repeatedly) at backgammon seemed to indicate that Hurley's good luck had run out. . . the one comment that came back was that maybe Walt wanting the rolls trumped Hurley's luck. . . hard to believe, since there was money involved, which seems to be at the root of Hurleys luck.


That's it! Once Walt wins all of the cursed number money from Hurley playing backgammon then he will be the most powerful sorcerer in the universe!!! Mmwwwaahhh haa haa! :p

Originally posted by 4HiMarks
Really. This is post-Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction prime-time network TV we're talking about here. Now it if moved to HBO, ...

-Chris

Yup, I can see it now, Sayid, Jack, Locke and Charlie go on a search only to find the good ole Sopranos clan, where Tony eventually hooks up with all the women on the island. Tony then sends out Christopher and his crew to take out those f'n polar bears and that French b@&*!

I don't know if anybody reads the Lost diary that Shannon keeps. It can be seen here:

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/diary.html

They have a problem with it though and it is missing the pages from day 28 and day 29. It is interesting reading, although it doesn't really give anything away in the plot. They only appear after the show airs. Still, one or two of the pages are missing. Anybody know what is on them?

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
I don't know if anybody reads the Lost diary that Shannon keeps. It can be seen here:

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/diary.html

They have a problem with it though and it is missing the pages from day 28 and day 29. It is interesting reading, although it doesn't really give anything away in the plot. They only appear after the show airs. Still, one or two of the pages are missing. Anybody know what is on them?

Thanks for reminding me about the diary...I remember it from earlier in the season but I haven't been back to look at it since.

Shannon didn't write that diary...several clues:

1) She knew the girl who drowned...they had gone diving together at the Great Barrier Reef, indicates she was there on vacation, as opposed to Shannon who was down there for a while shacking up with that sleazy guy.

2) When the water culprit was found, she makes no mention of Boone. Knowing Shannon the way we do, don't you think she'd slam him pretty hard in her diary? Not a word...just that they 'found the guy'.

3) She mentions Boone specifically in another passage, but mentions that he seems 'a little soft to me'. Not Shannon speaking there...she would have been much more harsh :-)
EDIT:
4) She also mentions surviving an ordeal in Lousiana that resulted in a trial.
5) She has something in her Dive Bag that she doesn't want anyone to see.

It's final! Locke wasn't eating a frog:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/images/gallery/ep115/gallery.html?photo=20
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/images/gallery/ep115/gallery.html?photo=21


So this rat that he was eating must be related to Locke, as in his boss was a rat and he killed his boss, and now he's eating a rat he killed in the jungle, just like he ate the corpse of his rat boss!!! It's so obvious!!!! That's the connection!!! :D

You are right, it isn't Shannon's diary. I was mistaken.

I wonder who it is and what is in her dive bag.

Here's a question I have after watching the rerun last night. Hurley made a comment in one scene where he said " Back home, I used to be considered somewhat of a warrior." Anyone else catch that? I wonder what he meant by that. Any thoughts?

It could be a real character on the beach (giving away clues), or something made up.

But is there anything saying it's a "she"? (I haven't read but a few pages from the beginning)

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
You are right, it isn't Shannon's diary. I was mistaken.

I wonder who it is and what is in her dive bag.

I don't know, whoever wrote it mentions everyone we've met, except for Shannon. It's either Shannon or someone we haven't met..

Originally posted by simplyTron
Here's a question I have after watching the rerun last night. Hurley made a comment in one scene where he said " Back home, I used to be considered somewhat of a warrior." Anyone else catch that? I wonder what he meant by that. Any thoughts? Yeah, that was probably the main thing I took away from seeing this episode again. No idea if it's significant at all, or just Hurley cracking wise. Maybe it'll come up in the next Hurley backstory.
Or not.:confused:

I caught it but have no idea what he ment. I did notice Sawyer called Walt Tatoo as in the little guy from Fantasy Island. Previously he had called him Short Round as in Temple of Doom. I just found it funny...

We know the diary writer is a female, as Larry asked her out. Unless Larry is gay. The writer mentions Ice Skating, so that can go either way. ;)

Shannon hasn't mentioned a dive bag on the show, has she?

Originally posted by TheTimm
Yeah, that was probably the main thing I took away from seeing this episode again. No idea if it's significant at all, or just Hurley cracking wise. Maybe it'll come up in the next Hurley backstory.
Or not.:confused:

He's pretty spry, too. I wonder if he played football in high school (hurl = throw?) or something. Otherwise, hate to stereotype, but warrior could refer to Dungeons & Dragons or something...

Shannon was living with a boyfriend in Austrailia.. she wasn't there to take a vacation and go diving... so I don't think it was her.

I think they are keeping it an unmentioned/unseen survivor to just have that kinda outside view perspective... 3rd person, right?

Clever of them.

Originally posted by bronowyn
Shannon was living with a boyfriend in Austrailia.. she wasn't there to take a vacation and go diving... so I don't think it was her.



Australia is a big place, she could have been vacationing. Plus, the writer mentions something about being in a hospital, the impression being something she did that put her there. Didn't Boone say that she gets hooked with guys that beat her? Didn't the boyfriend in Australia beat her?

I'm going with Shannon being the writer, why would should leave the Shannon character out of the diary?

Keenan, it was established that Shannon was using Boone to get money by hooking up with guys and pretending to be abused by them. I think I remember it being the 3rd time or something. Here's the page:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/2004-05/13.html


"We FLASHBACK to the same house in Australia. Boone has paid Brian off and is coming to collect Shannon and her things. But Shannon looks guilty and we learn why when Brian comes into the room and lays it all out for Boone -- he's been had. Shannon orchestrated the whole drama in an attempt to get money from Boone's mother. Boone is humiliated and his emotions get the better of him, resulting in a fight between him and Brian. Boone leaves the house bloodied and dejected."

Just because Shannon is in Australia with her new boyfriend to shake down Boone doesn't mean she can't go diving. She doesn't seem to have a job and needs to do something to occupy her day.

cyberbri, yes, but who's to say that one of these guys she conspired with didn't actually beat her, maybe she didn't give the guy his full cut, play games like that and things can get dangerous...:p

The thing that convinces me is that she mentions every other character that we know of, except Shannon...:confused:

Perhaps they are grooming another character for next season without having to show the person. This will allow the producer to be in a better bargaining position with the actor.

I have a feeling that as characters get killed off, we will be introduced to previously unknown survivors that will take their place as major contributors to the story lines.

Originally posted by keenan
Australia is a big place, she could have been vacationing. Plus, the writer mentions something about being in a hospital, the impression being something she did that put her there. Didn't Boone say that she gets hooked with guys that beat her? Didn't the boyfriend in Australia beat her?

I'm going with Shannon being the writer, why would should leave the Shannon character out of the diary?

Maybe she's never mentioned because she never DOES ANYTHING :-)

The real reason i don't think it's her is because whenever Boone is mentioned either directly or indirectly, there is none of the usual venom from her where he is concerned. She doesn't pull any punches with Sawyer, why would she hold back on Boone?

I'm beginning to feel pressured into reading this 'diary'... dammit...

Originally posted by JayDog_2
I'm beginning to feel pressured into reading this 'diary'... dammit...

Nothing else to do for the next 4 weeks or so...:D

I have been lurking around this thread since the beginning, thought I'd offer my first post. I just re-watched the last episode, in the scene where Hurley see's the #'s for the first time. On the sheet of paper above the #'s there is a math equation. If I had the capabilities I'd offer a screen cap. Has anyone noticed this? Think it has any meaning?

{(13/x) + .000324} / 12

Who wants to solve for x? ;)

Originally posted by CPanther95
{(13/x) + .000324} / 12

Who wants to solve for x? ;)

We'd need the end value in order to get that wouldn't we?

{(13/x)+.00324}/12 = ?

x=13/{12? - .00324}

...Couldn't resist.

Originally posted by brcobb
x=13/{12? - .00324}

...Couldn't resist.

Show your work! :-)

Solution wasn't given. Maybe substituting each of the magic numbers for "x" or for the solution, then solve for "x".

Originally posted by bronowyn
If there's all this talk about black and white rocks... (the people in the cave... the backgammon set... etc)... If there's a BLACK ROCK... shouldn't there be a WHITE ROCK on the island?
Or it might be a WHITE BEACH...

Bad Day at Black Rock

Paul

...Tony then sends out Christopher and his crew to take out those f'n polar bears and that French b@&*!

Send Christopher and Paulie! What a hoot that would be!

Perhaps they are grooming another character for next season without having to show the person. This will allow the producer to be in a better bargaining position with the actor.

I have a feeling that as characters get killed off, we will be introduced to previously unknown survivors that will take their place as major contributors to the story lines.

Sounds like a good way to keep the major actors from asking for a big jump in salary between seasons, if nothing else. Plenty of other "in the background survivors" to bring to the forefront of the story.

Originally posted by Paul Bigelow
Bad Day at Black Rock

Paul Or, in contrast, the Knight Rider episode called "Good Day at White Rock".

Originally posted by maxman
Sounds like a good way to keep the major actors from asking for a big jump in salary between seasons, if nothing else. Plenty of other "in the background survivors" to bring to the forefront of the story. That's why cast members on "OZ" always showed up on time for casting calls. Everyone was afraid they'd be next to be shanked. The producers and writers weren't afraid to kill anybody on that show.

Finally got around to watching the movie "Identity" (John Cusack, John C McGinley, Ray Liotta, Amanda Peet et al....) and couldn't HELP but think about LOST as I watched it.

Weird....
:confused:

Originally posted by jaypb
Finally got around to watching the movie "Identity" (John Cusack, John C McGinley, Ray Liotta, Amanda Peet et al....) and couldn't HELP but think about LOST as I watched it.

Weird....
:confused:


Funny... guess you could not get "Lost" in the movie story line.

Here's the pic of the DVD boxset of Lost:S1 coming out Sept 6th

http://dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=1&c=6102&n=1&burl=

sure hope this isn't a spoiler :-)

I wouldn't think so....
http://dvdanswers.com/images/screenshots/lostseas1r1artworkpic.jpg

WAIT! who's not pictured on the box?!?

j.k. ;)

Yes, stunning artwork, captures the essence of the show exactly, as in, they LOST it...:p

I am re-watching all of the episodes during this break.

In ep 4 (Locke's background) when he is laying in bed talking to his "buddy" there is a weird looking electronic instrument next to his bed. It looks like it has a lcd screen with a numeric keypad next to it. Its too big to be a normal phone I would assume. Any ideas? I'm thinking it could be for medical reasons.

It is most likely a medical device related to his condition.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/lostseas1r1artworkpic.jpg

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
It is most likely a medical device related to his condition.

What condition? Refresh my memory. I thought it was just the wheelchair/inability to walk...

I've followed this whole thread and finally caught something that I don't think anyone else has.

Did anyone else catch the straight razor that Sawyer was playing with when he went to visit Sayid? He picked it up off the table and handled it in a slightly menacing fashion.

That razor might explain why the ladies still look so fine. But, why don't the guys use it too?

I wonder why walt isn't on the cover?

First one on the left...

Ah! It's hard to see! :)

Originally posted by Blato
I've followed this whole thread and finally caught something that I don't think anyone else has.

Did anyone else catch the straight razor that Sawyer was playing with when he went to visit Sayid? He picked it up off the table and handled it in a slightly menacing fashion.

That razor might explain why the ladies still look so fine. But, why don't the guys use it too?


They were on a plane, which means they're traveling, and you take toiletries, etc. with you when you travel. They're probably using their own razors/gel. Even electric razors last a month or two on a full charge, although the guys might not care as much.

/My 2 cents.

Originally posted by skipfreely
I am re-watching all of the episodes during this break.

In ep 4 (Locke's background) when he is laying in bed talking to his "buddy" there is a weird looking electronic instrument next to his bed. It looks like it has a lcd screen with a numeric keypad next to it. Its too big to be a normal phone I would assume. Any ideas? I'm thinking it could be for medical reasons.

There was some speculation that it might be some sort of electric/electronic muscle stimulator. Just because a guy's in a chair doesn't mean he has to let his legs turn into raisins. Don't remember if there was ever a definitive answer though...

Aren't straight razors on the airlines' new "banned" list? Maybe it didn't come from off the plane!

yeah, but there's always the cargo hold. Where to you think the luggage goes? ;)

About that Shannon and Boone "dream" killing, maybe it was not a illusion afterall?

Sorry for bring up a old topic! :)

regards,

Li On

Another thing I picked up after a rerun - Boone and Locke are going through the jungle and Boone says it's 4 o'clock. Locke quickly corrects that to 4:25 or some such exact time. I can see that watches should still be functioning but if they ditched 1,000 miles off course, how does Locke (or anyone else) know what time zone he is in? OK, he can approximate by building a sun dial with all his trail skills but I don't see how he could be so certain it wasn't in the 3 or 5 o'clock hour. Perhaps they all just agreed to set a time and synchronized watches for reckoning sake.

But it was just the speed that Locke came out with the time correction that made me think there had to be something more than the surface of the statement and could be of importance.

I also took note of the razor, especially after seeing Jack in his scruffy beard while at the hospital and wondering what kind of impression he makes on his patients with 3~ day growth. If he's been up for 3 days without time to shave I don't think I want him operating on me!

Another thing I picked up after a rerun - Boone and Locke are going through the jungle and Boone says it's 4 o'clock. Locke quickly corrects that to 4:25 or some such exact time. I can see that watches should still be functioning but if they ditched 1,000 miles off course, how does Locke (or anyone else) know what time zone he is in? OK, he can approximate by building a sun dial with all his trail skills but I don't see how he could be so certain it wasn't in the 3 or 5 o'clock hour.
Because no matter what time zone you're in, the sun is always at it's zenith at noon...(unless you're doing daylight savings time...)

—Dan

Originally posted by NetworkTV
Or, in contrast, the Knight Rider episode called "Good Day at White Rock".

OMG, you actually know a Knight Rider episode title?? :p

I just went and read the diary from day one and, other than not mentioning Shannon, there is no reason to believe Shannon is writing it. The person writing it is athletic and active on the island, unlike Shannon. Nothing is mentioned about French. It also does not seem like there is any familiarity with any of the other survivors other than the girl that drowned. And certainly not much about Sayid, which I would guess is starting to fill up Shannon's diary at this point.

Edit: for spelling and time reference correction

I assumed it was Shannon early on, but now it is more apparent that it isn't and I just never re-examined that. I do recall seeing her writing in one episode, which made me further feel that it was her.

Was just watching "American Outlaws" from a couple years back and recognized our boy Terry O'Quinn. He's been around awhile: http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0642368/

I can't get his creepy role in "The Stepfather" out of my mind whenever I see him.

Originally posted by tobwco
OMG, you actually know a Knight Rider episode title?? :p Well, it's not hard:

1) The episode titles are all over the web, including IMDB (under guest appearances).

2) The guide info on my DVR shows the titles of episodes when Sci-Fi airs them.

3) It's like episode 2 or 3 after the pilot (filmed on a pre-"Back to the Future" Universal Studios town square backlot) so it's fresher in my memory.

4) The episodes show the title in the opening scenes.

5) It's a play off another title, so it's catchy (like the pilot being called "Knight of the Phoenix" - a reference to the Jimmy Stewart version of "Flight of the Phoenix"). The are several titles in that series that either referenced other shows/movies or had later coincidental references (like "Slammin' Sammy's Stunt show Spectacular" - now if that episode was baseball-related, that would be creepy-scary).

6) I have the 1st season DVD set (along with MacGuyver, the A-Team, etc.). I'm an 80's TV junkie.

Episode News! I dunno if anybody posted this yet.

Apparently there has been a change in the airdates of new episodes. According to ABC, episode 1x20 "Do No Harm" will air on April 6th, so that leaves March 30th to be the airdate for ep 1x19 "Deux Ex Machina". Therefore there will be a shorter hiatus. :)
Sources: ABC, TV Tome

New episode in 3.5 weeks! March 30th for Locke!

So, 3/30, 4/6, no 4/13, 4/20, 4/27. Only 22 eps listed for the season.

Originally posted by dmbatch
So, 3/30, 4/6, no 4/13, 4/20, 4/27. Only 22 eps listed for the season.
Nope.

Episode 1.19: Deux Ex Machina (LOCKE)
Airdate: March 30, 2005

Episode 1.20: Do No Harm (JACK)
Airdate: April 6, 2005

Episode 1.21: The Greater Good (SAYID)
Airdate: April 2005

Episode 1.22: Born to Run (KATE)
Airdate: Spring 2005

Episode 1.23: Title Unknown
Airdate: Spring 2005

Episode 1.24: Title Unknown (Season Finale)
Airdate: May 2005

Is Tabula Rasa scheduled to re-air?... it's the only episode I've missed.

*edit* I guess not.

Originally posted by PJO1966
Is Tabula Rasa scheduled to re-air... it's the only episode I've missed.
Right now they are running eps up to Episode 1-14, the one before Claire came back, so TR will not re-air till reruns begin in the summer. I believe they are going to replay the entire show again in order to roll in new viewers, which is a VERY good idea.

Originally posted by neoufo51
Right now they are running eps up to Episode 1-14, the one before Claire came back, so TR will not re-air till reruns begin in the summer. I believe they are going to replay the entire show again in order to roll in new viewers, which is a VERY good idea.

Very cool... thanks...

Originally posted by PJO1966
Very cool... thanks...
You can always check out the episode guide on the ABC site. Detailed summaries published every night after the episode.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/episodes/2004-05/1.html

I've read the summary. I still want to see the episode.

Episode 1.19: Deux Ex Machina (LOCKE)
Airdate: March 30, 2005

Episode 1.20: Do No Harm (JACK)
Airdate: April 6, 2005

Episode 1.21: The Greater Good (SAYID)
Airdate: April 20, 2005

Episode 1.22: Born to Run (KATE)
Airdate: April 27, 2005

Episode 1.23: Title Unknown
Airdate: Spring 2005

Episode 1.24: Title Unknown (Season Finale)
Airdate: May 2005

^ummm...I posted that already just now.

Maybe they were unsure about the 2 additional episodes. Now that they are definitely adding a 23rd and 24th, the new schedule will still allow the finale to fall in May sweeps.

damn it i want another hurley episode before the season's up!

I'm more interested in Hurley's "real-time" actions since he seems to be the only person on the island willing to ask questions.

Here's the rest of that "equation". It's all so clear now. :p http://img187.exs.cx/img187/4054/equation0tz.th.jpg (http://img187.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img187&image=equation0tz.jpg)

Maybe instead of building a raft, they should just swim to the sailboat? ;)

http://img187.exs.cx/img187/3512/sailboat10bv.th.jpg (http://img187.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img187&image=sailboat10bv.jpg)
http://img187.exs.cx/img187/8789/sailboat28sy.th.jpg (http://img187.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img187&image=sailboat28sy.jpg)

Originally posted by Hounsfield
Maybe instead of building a raft, they should just swim to the sailboat? ;)




Funny :D

Originally posted by neoufo51
^ummm...I posted that already just now.

Yeah, I just added the actual date for 21 & 22.

Originally posted by Hounsfield
Maybe instead of building a raft, they should just swim to the sailboat? ;)


LMAO!

Originally posted by Hounsfield
Maybe instead of building a raft, they should just swim to the sailboat? ;)



We have been looking for significance in every little detail but with such careless editing you have to wonder if stuff like Ethan breathing was just an editing mistake.

Originally posted by Hounsfield
Maybe instead of building a raft, they should just swim to the sailboat? ;)


Where do you think the power cable comes from?

Originally posted by dlan
We have been looking for significance in every little detail but with such careless editing you have to wonder if stuff like Ethan breathing was just an editing mistake.

Persomally, I don't think they would let a close-up of a seemingly super-natural person, seemingly dead person with his chest obviously moving so far up and down, as if he was exxageratedly moving his chest in and out on purpose. If it was an accident, they could have just cut that shot or used a take with no chest movement. I don't think they're that sloppy.

Nobody in my family noticed the breathing, and we're watching in HD. I still don't believe that was either intended or relevant.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Nobody in my family noticed the breathing, and we're watching in HD. I still don't believe that was either intended or relevant.

The corpse was definitely breathing, and with these sort of lapses it pretty much invalidates the "all the details mean something" position of the writers. Which is too bad as the added fun of trying to figure out the "mystery" really adds to the show, but for me, I'm just watching it now and not trying to figure out the big mystery as it's impossible for me to know what I'm supposed to notice and what I'm not.

Originally posted by dlan
We have been looking for significance in every little detail but with such careless editing you have to wonder if stuff like Ethan breathing was just an editing mistake.

I'll bet the camera man noticed the "corpse" was breathing and that's why he zoomed in on the hand, the breathing part was probably supposed to be cut.

Reminds me of "The Mole" - after every season, they replayed a bunch of clues that pointed to who the Mole was, but they were so obscure, they were meaningless. Things like the "7" on someone's shoe corresponded to the diary number of the Mole - but there may have been a "3" on a billboard or a "6" on someones shirt in other scenes. :rolleyes:

I just don't think everything is intended (breathing, sailboat, fenceposts, etc.), and I'd put more focus on the dialog, books they're reading, etc. for clues.

Yeah, I guess it's a lot to ask of a weekly show to be perfect. It's still one of my top 5 favorite shows.:)

Originally posted by CPanther95
Nobody in my family noticed the breathing, and we're watching in HD. I still don't believe that was either intended or relevant.

I noticed it --- or thought I did at the beginning of the scene. Didn't record it though.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Nobody in my family noticed the breathing, and we're watching in HD. I still don't believe that was either intended or relevant.

Same here

When I played it back on the Tivo, he was definitely breathing - fairly rapidly also - like they may have dropped him and the blanket pretty hard. :)

Well, I saw some eyelashes move on a corpse on CSI. Are we supposed to believe they meant for us to think the person was really alive or is CSI just sloppy?

Many things that producers assumed for years couldn't be seen are now visible to those who look close enough. Even in films with hundred million dollar budgets, look at all the continuity errors.

That's your story, until Ethan pops out of the ground and takes the baby after it's born, or something like that. ;)

EDIT: Corrected info about season finale airings.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19637

Originally posted by mstahlkr
Where do you think the power cable comes from?

From Verizon...I'm waiting for the guy to be walking along the shore saying "Good!" :p

Originally posted by CPanther95
When I played it back on the Tivo, he was definitely breathing - fairly rapidly also - like they may have dropped him and the blanket pretty hard. :)

That would be Stunt Breathing.

2.5 hours in one showing? Wow, that will be an event.

770 posts in March already.

Originally posted by nuzzy
From Verizon...I'm waiting for the guy to be walking along the shore saying "Good!" :p

They are trying to improve cell reception on the island... too bad no one tried their Verizon cell phone as yet.

"Can you hear me now?"

Originally posted by dlan
"Can you hear me now?" "Good...now get me the f**k off this island!!!!"

Xesdeeni

Originally posted by Xesdeeni
"Good...now get me the f**k off this island!!!!"

Xesdeeni
LMAO

Originally posted by neoufo51
UPDATE!! The Hollywood reporter just posted its story on the Museum of Television & Radio's Saturday "Lost" event, and one of the few new things revealed? The season finale will combine 1.23 and a 90-minute 1.24 to take up 2.5 hours of one May Wednesday night.


Uh, hello? Spoiler. :p

How is that a spoiler? it just states the length of the show.. not who sprouts an alien head, if the monster would be revealed as a killer giraffe, if they find out there's a SANDALS resort on the other side of the island, if Locke is going to shoot lasers out of his eyes. ;)

No, but seriously, how does the length of the future episodes a spoiler make? I'm just wondering.

Originally posted by bronowyn
How is that a spoiler? it just states the length of the show.. not who sprouts an alien head, if the monster would be revealed as a killer giraffe, if they find out there's a SANDALS resort on the other side of the island, if Locke is going to shoot lasers out of his eyes. ;)

No, but seriously, how does the length of the future episodes a spoiler make? I'm just wondering.

Pretty sure he was just joking...

Originally posted by bronowyn
How is that a spoiler? it just states the length of the show.. not who sprouts an alien head, if the monster would be revealed as a killer giraffe, if they find out there's a SANDALS resort on the other side of the island, if Locke is going to shoot lasers out of his eyes. ;)

That reminds me of the episode of Family Guy where Peter was a cast member on Survivor. He tripped over a rock on the island and fell into the set of The Price is Right!:D

Originally posted by El Pollo
That reminds me of the episode of Family Guy where Peter was a cast member on Survivor. He tripped over a rock on the island and fell into the set of The Price is Right!:D

Oh No! Head ... Hunters ... ahh ...

Originally posted by CPanther95
2.5 hours in one showing? Wow, that will be an event.

Definitely one to record, if only to blast through the 40 mins worth of commercials...:)

Originally posted by CPanther95
2.5 hours in one showing? Wow, that will be an event.
I see an excuse for a "Lost" party!! :)

Can someone remind me (I don't have the episode recorded) - when Ethan was seen breathing, was Ethan really ever seen? What I mean is, if I recall correctly, didn't we just see a body that was wrapped in something next to the hole that was being dug? If my memory is indeed correct then if the producers of the show really meant for Ethan to be dead wouldn't they just wrap something up that was shaped like a body. This would eliminate the risk of the tv audience noticing someone accidentally breathing... not to mention the fact that someone would not have to try to hold their breath.

This makes me think that Ethan was in fact breathing and is alive... and the viewers seeing it wasn't an editing accident on the producers part. Unless my recollection of the scene isn't correct....

Either way, it seemed very obvious to me that he was breathing.

Originally posted by keenan
Definitely one to record, if only to blast through the 40 mins worth of commercials...:)
Ahh... you beat me to it, I was going to say the same thing...

At least 40 mins of commercials... typically a one hour block has 18 minutes of commercials... so using my math skills, that would be more like 45 minutes of commercials in a 2.5 hour show block!!! ;)

Originally posted by bronowyn
How is that a spoiler? it just states the length of the show.. not who sprouts an alien head, if the monster would be revealed as a killer giraffe, if they find out there's a SANDALS resort on the other side of the island, if Locke is going to shoot lasers out of his eyes. ;)

No, but seriously, how does the length of the future episodes a spoiler make? I'm just wondering.

CPanther, want to help me out here?
Originally posted by CPanther95

Last time I'll define "spoiler".

Anything that has not aired on the show or a preview - THAT IS A KNOW FACT FROM A SOURCE OTHER THAN THE SHOW OR A PREVIEW - is a spoiler.


Maybe I'm taking 'Anything' too literal? :p

In the 2.5 hour block, what 80% of what's left over after commercials will be flashbacks? :D

Originally posted by wco81
In the 2.5 hour block, what 80% of what's left over after commercials will be flashbacks? :D
Sorry about the information guys...looks like Herc from Aintitcool messed up.

Here is the real info.

Herc here. Re-reading this morning’s Hollywood Reporter piece, I see I sleepily inferred, apparently incorrectly, that 1.23 and 1.24 would air the same night. Here’s what Cynthia Littleton actually wrote: “And they confirmed that the season finale in May will be a two-parter, starting with a one-hour episode and concluding with a 90-minute installment, with the final half-hour airing commercial-free.”

I got this from a great article about what happened at the Lost presentation this weekend at the Museum of TV and Radio. Lots of the cast members were there, but the writer makes some assertions about what happens this season based on the reactions and HINTS that the cast members give.

Soooooo, you can read the article but be warned.

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19645

Originally posted by usace
Can someone remind me (I don't have the episode recorded) - when Ethan was seen breathing, was Ethan really ever seen? What I mean is, if I recall correctly, didn't we just see a body that was wrapped in something next to the hole that was being dug? If my memory is indeed correct then if the producers of the show really meant for Ethan to be dead wouldn't they just wrap something up that was shaped like a body. This would eliminate the risk of the tv audience noticing someone accidentally breathing... not to mention the fact that someone would not have to try to hold their breath.

This makes me think that Ethan was in fact breathing and is alive... and the viewers seeing it wasn't an editing accident on the producers part. Unless my recollection of the scene isn't correct....

Either way, it seemed very obvious to me that he was breathing. You are correct. They did not show his face in that scene. I, too, believe the "breathing" was supposed to be evident to the audience (and not to the characters).

Dude is gonna crawl outta that grave!

The last half hour is going to be commercial-free? That's pretty cool, but I just hope they don't make up for it by adding more commercials during the first hour.

Look guys, the body was BURIED!!! If somebody was breathing but buried, they are still dead unless they were only buried 1 foot deep and immediately left alone within 60 seconds so that he can rise from the grave, he is a goner.

In fact, we haven't seen the body of the girl who was caught in the surf and drowned. Maybe she is alive, too? Perhaps the pilot is still alive after a hallucination from those who thought he died while we are on the topic of ridiculous.

I have to agree - if he can survive suffocation, or is some sort of supernatural being - why not just stop breathing until you're done being buried.

Not to mention surviving a tight grouping of 5 - 9mm shots to the chest.

Plus, it's not like there wasn't a Dr. around to pronounce him dead.