you're assuming he's human ...

Yes, and we are assuming that people on the plane were not clones, aliens or androids. We are also assuming they didn't fly through a wormhold into a parallel universe where cars run on catsup and unicorns are household pets.

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
and unicorns are household pets.

That would be cool...:p

Originally posted by keenan
I'll bet the camera man noticed the "corpse" was breathing and that's why he zoomed in on the hand, the breathing part was probably supposed to be cut. If I'm not mistaken, that was a dolly in, not a zoom in - meaning the move was planned. Zoom lenses are seldom used in film-based production anymore (except for that cool dolly in - zoom out, receding background effect that is sometimes used when a character comes across something ghastly or when simulating a tv camera lens, telescope, etc.). Most productions use fixed focal length lenses.

The general idea is for the view to feel like they're with the characters as an invisible observer. Zooming (instead of an actual dolly, truck, crab, boom or other camera move) takes you out of that zone since our vision doesn't work that way. If we want a closer look, we have to move closer.

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
unicorns are household pets.

Before my daughter can pipe in, "I want one!!!"

Originally posted by NetworkTV
If I'm not mistaken, that was a dolly in, not a zoom in - meaning the move was planned. Zoom lenses are seldom used in film-based production anymore (except for that cool dolly in - zoom out, receding background effect that is sometimes used when a character comes across something ghastly or when simulating a tv camera lens, telescope, etc.). Most productions use fixed focal length lenses.

The general idea is for the view to feel like they're with the characters as an invisible observer. Zooming (instead of an actual dolly, truck, crab, boom or other camera move) takes you out of that zone since our vision doesn't work that way. If we want a closer look, we have to move closer.

That's what I meant, whatever you just said...:p

Originally posted by nuzzy
From Verizon...I'm waiting for the guy to be walking along the shore saying "Good!" :p

LOL. I guess it's for the cell tower on the island.

Ok, anyone who thinks stating the length of an epi is a spoiler needs to take a deep breathe, then step away from the keyboard.

Head hunters - Pooloo si begumba!

If the french woman no longer wants her house (with electric power) maybe at least someone should see if that wire has any use.

After all, it might be power, telephone, or maybe even a useful free cable TV line. I guess it's another one of those island things where nobody is at all curious for some very strange reason.

- Tom

Originally posted by dmbatch
770 posts in March already.

Dynot?

Originally posted by bobby94928
Before my daughter can pipe in, "I want one!!!"

My thoughts exactly

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
Look guys, the body was BURIED!!! If somebody was breathing but buried, they are still dead unless they were only buried 1 foot deep and immediately left alone within 60 seconds so that he can rise from the grave, he is a goner.

In fact, we haven't seen the body of the girl who was caught in the surf and drowned. Maybe she is alive, too? Perhaps the pilot is still alive after a hallucination from those who thought he died while we are on the topic of ridiculous.

While I argee with what you say . I must piont out that we did see Jacks Dad walking around. His body was NOT in the coffin. Now, was he really walking around or was Jack just seeing things? Where is his dad's body?

If it was really Jack's dad walking around then we might see Ethan come back from the dead. We'll find out sooner or later.

Originally posted by etcarroll
Head hunters - Pooloo si begumba!
Classic http://nonfiction.hit.bg/tv.gif

Originally posted by Couch Patato
While I argee with what you say . I must piont out that we did see Jacks Dad walking around. His body was NOT in the coffin. Now, was he really walking around or was Jack just seeing things? Where is his dad's body?

If it was really Jack's dad walking around then we might see Ethan come back from the dead. We'll find out sooner or later.

unlike Ethan, Jack was the only one who could see Jack's dad, so the island was playing tricks with Jack. Everyone saw Ethan so he wasn't someone's imagination, unless someone wants to bring back up their theory that everyone is in purgatory...

Originally posted by NorthJersey
unlike Ethan, Jack was the only one who could see Jack's dad, so the island was playing tricks with Jack. Everyone saw Ethan so he wasn't someone's imagination, unless someone wants to bring back up their theory that everyone is in purgatory...

That's quite a logic leap. I haven't personally seen the Great Wall of China. That doesn't mean it isn't there. I just haven't been there to see it.

Phred, you were obviously never on the debate team. :p

I was watching Alias season 2 last night and found it interesting that Sydney and Michael went to a restaurant in Paris called Rousseau's.

I don't think Jack was alone when he was chasing his father, though. He was also massively sleep deprived.

I just chalked Jack seeing his father up to sleep deprivation (hadn't slept in many, many days) and guilt over his father's death, plus a little magical island supernatural fun. He kept going after his father, who would then disappear. This led him to the caves where he found the coffin with his dad.

Originally posted by cyberbri
I just chalked Jack seeing his father up to sleep deprivation (hadn't slept in many, many days) and guilt over his father's death, plus a little magical island supernatural fun. He kept going after his father, who would then disappear. This led him to the caves where he found the coffin with his dad.

Yes but the coffin was empty

Originally posted by cyberbri
I just chalked Jack seeing his father up to sleep deprivation (hadn't slept in many, many days) and guilt over his father's death, plus a little magical island supernatural fun. He kept going after his father, who would then disappear. This led him to the caves where he found the coffin with his dad.

Agree it seemed like the apparitions of Jack's dad were just that, from a sleep-deprived mind. But wasn't the coffin empty when he opened it?

The body could have flown out of the coffin somewhere between the time the plane split in half, and when the coffin hit the ground :D

Didn't Jack have to pry it open?

i seem to recall it was partially opened and he pried it the rest of the way?

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
Look guys, the body was BURIED!!! If somebody was breathing but buried, they are still dead unless they were only buried 1 foot deep and immediately left alone within 60 seconds so that he can rise from the grave, he is a goner.

In fact, we haven't seen the body of the girl who was caught in the surf and drowned. Maybe she is alive, too? Perhaps the pilot is still alive after a hallucination from those who thought he died while we are on the topic of ridiculous.

I don't know which way this story is going and neither do you. We've got polar bears, things magically appearing when Walt dreams them up, Locke is now walking, an electrical cable coming out of the ocean, Claire with an evil baby, Hurley with unlucky numbers, Shannon was dead and then she wasn't, a monster, hatches, etc. A lot of this sounds impossible to me, but it's all happened. Not to mention the fact that Ethan seemed to have some pretty unnatural strength in past episodes. It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility that he was still breathing.

Why would they actually wrap up a human being if they were never going to show his face? Like I said, wrap up something in the shape of a body so that an actor doesn't have to be wrapped up for hours and hold his breath for any length of time. And that was some pretty obvious breathing.

He may, in fact, be dead... I don't know... none of us do. You're entitled to your opinion, as am I.

What I wonder is if nobody in my house noticed the breathing on a 100" screen in HD, was it even noticable in SD? If not, I can't imagine the point of putting in a "clue" was given that 97% of the viewers wouldn't notice.

Anything's possible, I'm just on the "not likely" side of the fence.

I think that the monitors and stuff that they view the dailies on are rather small, and after the shot, they didn't see he was breathing. By the time it was getting editied and everything and someone may have noticed "Ethan" was probably back to his real life on the continent being tom cruises cousin or something and they didn't want to/couldn't reshoot.

I think that he is dead. But there are other others.

Originally posted by CPanther95
What I wonder is if nobody in my house noticed the breathing on a 100" screen in HD, was it even noticable in SD? If not, I can't imagine the point of putting in a "clue" was given that 97% of the viewers wouldn't notice.

Anything's possible, I'm just on the "not likely" side of the fence.

I agree. I couldn't see it, either. And if it was supposed to be noticeable to the viewers, why wouldn't the people burying him notice it? They were right there! Don't you think if they saw him breathing they would have pumped another couple of shots into his chest?

I guess WE can't bury Ethan until season's end, unlike the crew of "Lost".
:rolleyes:

I went back and looked at this again on my HD TiVo because I never noticed it the first time I watched. I couldn't tell if he was breathing rapidly or if the ocean wind was rippling the tarp they had over him. At any rate it was not obvious and I don't think it was intended to be a clue. JMO

I never saw it either, and deleted the episode right after watching, so never had a chance to go back and look...

Is this episode one that is being re-aired? or was it already?

The episode title is "Outlaws," and It's not scheduled for a repeat before the season finale, if you believe the calendar on this site (http://www.lost-tv.com/).

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
Look guys, the body was BURIED!!! If somebody was breathing but buried, they are still dead unless they were only buried 1 foot deep and immediately left alone within 60 seconds so that he can rise from the grave, he is a goner.

Yeah. I brought up the whole being buried thing several pages ago. I just don't see the point.

-Chris

The point is if you leave them rotting in the open air it attracts all kinds of scavengers and emits an offensive odor - not to mention it is somewhat unsightly.

OK, I don't know which, if any, camp this helps. I went back on the Tivo to that scene where they bury Ethan. While they are digging you can see what looks like the body breathing, if ever so slightly. It is probably more apparent when using the fast forward/reverse on the Tivo. It's quite possible it wasn't meant to be noticed.
Before they lay him on the ground to start digging, Hurley tells Charlie "You don't have to help." Charlie replies "I killed Ethan, I can bury him." Hurley replies "Yeah, until he rises from the dead." Then Hurley says "Dude, I know how this works. This is gonna end with you and me running through the jungle, screaming and crying. He catches me first because I'm heavy, and I get cramps." Then they continue digging.

Originally posted by labmansid
Hurley replies "Yeah, until he rises from the dead."
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Originally posted by 4HiMarks
Yeah. I brought up the whole being buried thing several pages ago. I just don't see the point.

-Chris

Ok, yes, in "real life" if you bury someone they are then cut off from their oxygen supply and will suffocate and die. But in "real life" someone who receives multiple gun shots to the chest also dies. It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility that if he survived the gunshots he could also survive being buried. Again, it's a TV show. The producers can do whatever they like with this story line. Want to defy medical principals? Sure, just write it into the script. The laws of physics? Same thing.

I'll admit I could be wrong. I don't have the episode recorded so I have seen the scene only once. But, in my opinion, it appeared pretty obvious to me. On the other hand, it does make you wonder why charlie didn't notice the breathing if he was right next to the body, though. I have thought of the other side of the argument.

It is pretty interesting that Hurley made the comment he did, though.

I didn't notice any breathing - viewing on a 57" in HD.

I think Hurley mentioned Ethan rising from the dead just because it is funny. Besides, I don't see why he would be worried about Ethan - back home, he is known as somewhat of a warrior. ;)

I saw the breathing immediately as viewed on my 46 incher. Gotta admit, I was focusing on the fingers of the hand. I thought for sure I would see a twitch there but surely noticed the rise and fall of the chest in that same view. Reran it off the recorder and same thing - breathing. I don't think this is any editing or other error. Coupled with Hurley's comments it has to have been intentional, IMHO.

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
I think Hurley mentioned Ethan rising from the dead just because it is funny. Besides, I don't see why he would be worried about Ethan - back home, he is known as somewhat of a warrior. ;)
Right, Hurley seems to be the only one on the island with a sense of humor. He also should have nothing to fear from Ethan because he has the lucky numbers backing him up. ;)

Originally posted by rdwalt
I didn't notice any breathing - viewing on a 57" in HD.

I was viewing on a 57" in HD too.

Gotta admit, I was focusing on the fingers of the hand. I thought for sure I would see a twitch there but surely noticed the rise and fall of the chest in that same view. Reran it off the recorder and same thing - breathing. I don't think this is any editing or other error. Coupled with Hurley's comments it has to have been intentional, IMHO.

I was waiting for Ethan to make some type of movement, too. I said to my wife "I bet he's not really dead" when the scene started. So, I was fixated on him. Maybe that's why it was so obvious to me... and my wife.

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
I think Hurley mentioned Ethan rising from the dead just because it is funny. Besides, I don't see why he would be worried about Ethan - back home, he is known as somewhat of a warrior. ;)

IMHO Hurley was just trying to be funny.

I think they were messing around with our perceptions of what can and can't happen on the island.

I think its kind of up the same alley as Hurley's CD player dying. They knew what we were thinking ("How is that damn CD player still working" and "uh oh! Ethan is not really dead") and used a little bit of comedy to say "Hey guys, there is some crazy stuff going on here, but not THAT crazy."

Originally posted by maxman

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Originally posted by dmbatch
770 posts in March already.
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Dynot?

Haven't been posting much lately but if people are still interested here are the stats as of today, March 16th @ 1:10 PM ET:

Months ending the 21st:
1. Oct - 1,132
2. Nov - 828
3. Dec - 620
4. Jan - 737
5. Feb - 676
6. Mar - 1,053 (6 days to go including today)

At the current rate we're headed for 1,300+ for March. Even if we ignore alll the useless banter about spoilers/no spoilers that's still an impressive number considering the re-runs shown this month. Looks like the trend has taken a turn.

I'll post updated numbers next week.

Which episode is being shown tonight and next week leading up to the new episode on March 30?

Noticed Daniel Dae Kim in a trailer on HDNET'S "Nothing But Trailers" show for the new movie "The Cave" last night.

Also noticed Maggie Grace in an episode of CSI:Miami that was on A&E on Sunday night.

Tonight: Whatever the Case May Be - Kate
Next week: Hearts and Minds - Boone

Originally posted by NetworkTV
Zoom lenses are seldom used in film-based production anymore (except for that cool dolly in - zoom out, receding background effect that is sometimes used when a character comes across something ghastly or when simulating a tv camera lens, telescope, etc.). Most productions use fixed focal length lenses.If I remember the article in the February issue of American Cinematographer right, the Lost production crew uses mostly Primo zoom lenses like the 24-275mm T2.8 and the 135-420mm T2.8 which they call "the Hubble". I think they save a lot of time by not switching lenses during shoots. They do use a neat dolly system with tracks made from aluminum pipes.

Originally posted by Iteki
Yes but the coffin was empty

I think there are lots of possibilities here. My opinion is that Jack's dad was never put on the plane. If you remember, Jack was in the airport arguing with the people at the ticket counter that he had to get on that plane, but they wouldn't let him - I don't remember the exact reason, but I think it had to do with not enough time elapsing for the body/coffin to clear customs. We know Jack got on the plane, and we know the coffin was on the plane, but we don't know that his dad's body was in the coffin that got put on the plane. I think that is why Jack was so upset when he realized the coffin was empty - they had tricked him at the airport and he was just realizing what had happened.

Of course, the body could have fallen out of the coffin in the crash, or the island could have brought his dad back to life. We'll just have to wait and see!

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
I think Hurley mentioned Ethan rising from the dead just because it is funny.Yeah. In my book, nothing's funnier than the "undead" climbing out of the ground and coming to take his revenge on the people who thought they had killed him. ;)

Originally posted by jcwroton
My opinion is that Jack's dad was never put on the plane. If you remember, Jack was in the airport arguing with the people at the ticket counter that he had to get on that plane, but they wouldn't let him - I don't remember the exact reason, but I think it had to do with not enough time elapsing for the body/coffin to clear customs. We know Jack got on the plane, and we know the coffin was on the plane, but we don't know that his dad's body was in the coffin that got put on the plane. I think that is why Jack was so upset when he realized the coffin was empty - they had tricked him at the airport and he was just realizing what had happened.I believe you're right. The last line spoken by Jack at that ticket counter was something like, "I'm getting on that plane, and so is that coffin!" He didn't say anything about the contents of the coffin, IIRC......

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
... - back home, he is known as somewhat of a warrior. ;)

That's funny, I forgot Hurley said that. I wonder what he meant?

Originally posted by 4HiMarks
Yeah. I brought up the whole being buried thing several pages ago. I just don't see the point.

Oops. Too much editing. Of course I see the point of burying him. ;) I just don't see the point of arguing endlessly over whether he was breathing or not, and if he was whether it was an oversight or intentional on the part of the producers/editors/whoever.

-Chris

Yes, it had to mean something since everything seen on the show is intentional - like the sailboats in the background while Michael is building his raft or the barbed wire fence and road off in the distance on the golf course. ;)

Originally posted by tbb1226
I believe you're right. The last line spoken by Jack at that ticket counter was something like, "I'm getting on that plane, and so is that coffin!" He didn't say anything about the contents of the coffin, IIRC......
I know this isn't reality, but I have a hard time believing that an airline would remove the body from a coffin just to spite an upset passenger.

Originally posted by Tusk
I know this isn't reality, but I have a hard time believing that an airline would remove the body from a coffin just to spite an upset passenger.

They wouldn't have done it to spite the passenger, the passenger is of no importance, it's the rules..

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
the barbed wire fence and road off in the distance on the golf course. ;)

barbed wire fence? I didn't see that or see a discussion on it. That's funny, anyone have a screen shot of that?

Originally posted by Flyer1
barbed wire fence? I didn't see that or see a discussion on it. That's funny, anyone have a screen shot of that? That's from pretty early in the thread. Don't ask me to find it, though. I'm not that patient. I don't think anyone ever came up with a screenshot, though.

Originally posted by scowl
If I remember the article in the February issue of American Cinematographer right, the Lost production crew uses mostly Primo zoom lenses like the 24-275mm T2.8 and the 135-420mm T2.8 which they call "the Hubble". The article says they also use the 17.5-75mm T2.3 so they must have the whole Primo zoom lens package. The only times they mentioned using non-zooms are for very wide angle jungle shots (10mm and 14mm lenses).

Originally posted by Dynot
Haven't been posting much lately but if people are still interested here are the stats as of today, March 16th @ 1:10 PM ET:

Months ending the 21st:
1. Oct - 1,132
2. Nov - 828
3. Dec - 620
4. Jan - 737
5. Feb - 676
6. Mar - 1,053 (6 days to go including today)

At the current rate we're headed for 1,300+ for March. Even if we ignore alll the useless banter about spoilers/no spoilers that's still an impressive number considering the re-runs shown this month. Looks like the trend has taken a turn.

I'll post updated numbers next week.

Thanks - it's too much work for me!

Originally posted by UTV2TiVo
That's funny, I forgot Hurley said that. I wonder what he meant?

Dunno, but he's spry too!

Speaking of being dead, I think the spoiler thread may be. Anybody see it breathing?

Originally posted by keenan
They wouldn't have done it to spite the passenger, the passenger is of no importance, it's the rules.. I think there are rules about treating a dead body, too. It's a safe assumption that the airline is not responsible for removing the body (where would they put it?).

In the real world, I'd say it fell out when the plane disintegrated. But then the coffin should have smashed to smitherines when it hit the ground.

However, on LOST, I wouldn't be suprised if it came back to life as a zombie, led Jack to water (and the coffin), befriended the "pissed off giraffe," helped Ethan murder Steve (or Scott :)), and is now standing around in the shadows making the whispering sounds.

Xesdeeni

Originally posted by maxman
Speaking of dead, I think the spoiler thread may be. Anybody see it breathing?

Was it ever alive? I subscribed to it, but I got not one update in my inbox.

I think there's lack of spoily news for LOST right now, since they are on a airing hiatus.

I dunno though.

Well, the thing that really keeps a thread alive is the discussion and there isn't much discussion on spoilers. Speculation will drive discussion more.

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
Well, the thing that really keeps a thread alive is the discussion and there isn't much discussion on spoilers. Speculation will drive discussion more.

Amen.

Originally posted by keenan
They wouldn't have done it to spite the passenger, the passenger is of no importance, it's the rules..
I wasn't talking about removing the body, coffin and all. It was indicated that the airline put the coffin on the plane empty (I would assume that they pulled the body out) because Jack was aggitated.

I can't imagine any airline employee removing a dead body from a coffin and hoisting it over his shoulder to go stick it in storage someplace. Can you see Jack's dead Dad sitting in a corner tagged and in a room with all the unclaimed luggage and other items?

Originally posted by CPanther95
I can't imagine any airline employee removing a dead body from a coffin and hoisting it over his shoulder to go stick it in storage someplace. Can you see Jack's dead Dad sitting in a corner tagged and in a room with all the unclaimed luggage and other items?

Good point. Two questions:
1. Do we know for a fact that it was Jack's dad's coffin?
2. Given the many-thousand-foot fall and all the other crazy things that happened as a result of the crash, is it so implausible that the coffin came open at some point spilling the body then was closed again on impact? Of course, that raises the question of what happened to the body...

Who knows, it could be anything - the odds of surviving a 35,000 foot fall are about the same as the impact raising Jack's Dad from the dead. ;)

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Originally posted by Dynot
Haven't been posting much lately but if people are still interested here are the stats as of today, March 16th @ 1:10 PM ET:

Months ending the 21st:
1. Oct - 1,132
2. Nov - 828
3. Dec - 620
4. Jan - 737
5. Feb - 676
6. Mar - 1,053 (6 days to go including today)

At the current rate we're headed for 1,300+ for March. Even if we ignore all the useless banter about spoilers/no spoilers that's still an impressive number considering the re-runs shown this month. Looks like the trend has taken a turn.

I'll post updated numbers next week.
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Originally posted by maxman
Thanks - it's too much work for me!

I hope you weren't counting each post one by one!;)

Maybe there were 2 coffins in the plane, and he found the one that his dad was NOT in?

Originally posted by mx6bfast
Maybe there were 2 coffins in the plane, and he found the one that his dad was NOT in?


Ooooh.... we just assumed there was only one coffin on board. Who says there weren't two? I like this.

I think he would have recognized that it was a different coffin than his father was in, if that was the case.

Oh Wow...we need a new episode...this coffin business is getting strange..

CPanther95, the mental image of your post about the airline employee hoisted Jack's dad had me laughing out loud, I could just see him stacked up next to the cleaning supplies or something...:D

Originally posted by keenan
Oh Wow...we need a new episode...this coffin business is getting strange..

CPanther95, the mental image of your post about the airline employee hoisted Jack's dad had me laughing out loud, I could just see him stacked up next to the cleaning supplies or something...:D

Yeah...no WAY an airline is taking on that kind of liability. Either it was put on or is wasn't. It is possible there was a second coffin. Wasn't that guy that Sawyer killed an American? Possible he was being transported home?

But you would think Jack would recognize his dad's coffin.

Originally posted by CPanther95
I can't imagine any airline employee removing a dead body from a coffin and hoisting it over his shoulder to go stick it in storage someplace. Can you see Jack's dead Dad sitting in a corner tagged and in a room with all the unclaimed luggage and other items?

maybe they stuck Jack's dad on top of the plane, Aunt Edna-style from Vacation :D

Originally posted by NorthJersey
maybe they stuck Jack's dad on top of the plane, Aunt Edna-style from Vacation :D And from "Christmas Vacation"

Cathrine: "You remember Ruby Sue?"
Frances: "Oh yeah. Oh my gosh, her eyes aren't crossed anymore."
Eddie: "That's something ain't it? She falls in a well, eyes go crossed. She gets kicked by a mule, they go back to normal. I don't know."

Originally posted by Iteki
Yeah...no WAY an airline is taking on that kind of liability. Either it was put on or is wasn't. It is possible there was a second coffin. Wasn't that guy that Sawyer killed an American? Possible he was being transported home?

But you would think Jack would recognize his dad's coffin.

It's quite possible the airlines have all the same generic looking coffins.

Originally posted by Dynot
I hope you weren't counting each post one by one!;)

Two by two!

wow 9 hrs without a post, I better "bump" :-)

Originally posted by tobwco
wow 9 hrs without a post, I better "bump" :-)
Hey, it went over 12 hours the other day!

Originally posted by tobwco
It's quite possible the airlines have all the same generic looking coffins.

Why would the airlines have coffins at all?

I hope to only ship dead people.

Originally posted by cyberbri
Why would the airlines have coffins at all? I believe coffins that air sent via the airlines have to meet certain freight guidelines as well as be within certain weight limits. While Jack's father's coffin appeared to be wood, I believe aluminum coffins are usually used for air shipment, mostly due to their lighter weight, durability and low cost. That durability (unlike expensive mahogany, etc.) also allows the coffin to be shipped without an outer box enclosure.

Originally posted by cyberbri
Why would the airlines have coffins at all?

Steerage Class

NetworkTV,
That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to spoil the speculation. I figured that the body, if it cleared customs, was placed in an air-shipment container, and wondered why Jack would purchase a wood coffin in Aust. rather than having him arranged in one at the US funeral home.

v/r,
C-F

ABC will air a one-hour "introductory guide" to Lost. The special is designed to help new viewers catch up on the series' sometimes dense mythology as well as act as a refresher course for regular fans. The "Lost" special, set to air on Wednesday, April 27 at 8:00/7:00c (the show's regular time period), will focus on the characters of Jack (Matthew Fox), Kate (Evangeline Lilly), Locke (Terry O'Quinn), Sawyer (Josh Holloway) and Charlie (Dominic Monaghan) and retell their respective backstories in a linear fashion. It's unclear however how the clips will be introduced and if the hour will include any "behind-the-scenes"-type footage. Source: TheFutonCritic

Originally posted by CANNON-FODDER
NetworkTV,
That's what I was thinking, but I didn't want to spoil the speculation. I figured that the body, if it cleared customs, was placed in an air-shipment container, and wondered why Jack would purchase a wood coffin in Aust. rather than having him arranged in one at the US funeral home.

v/r,
C-F I guess that's one of those "suspension of disbelief" things like 555 numbers, never actually paying a cab fare, never running out of bullets, and throwing money on the table after eating without even seeing a bill.

Who knows? Maybe that was part of a supply of empty coffins being shipped to LA. Perhaps Jack's Dad may have been shipped in a standard aluminum box. If the body was delivered from the morgue, straight to to airport (I assume Jack didn't show up with it stashed in the trunk of his car), Jack may never have seen it previously and just assumed it was the right one.

Originally posted by neoufo51
ABC will air a one-hour "introductory guide" to Lost. The special is designed to help new viewers catch up on the series' sometimes dense mythology as well as act as a refresher course for regular fans. The "Lost" special, set to air on Wednesday, April 27 at 8:00/7:00c (the show's regular time period), will focus on the characters of Jack (Matthew Fox), Kate (Evangeline Lilly), Locke (Terry O'Quinn), Sawyer (Josh Holloway) and Charlie (Dominic Monaghan) and retell their respective backstories in a linear fashion. It's unclear however how the clips will be introduced and if the hour will include any "behind-the-scenes"-type footage. Source: TheFutonCritic

Cool..maybe this will get us off the coffin thing...:p

[QUOTE]Originally posted by keenan
Cool..maybe this will get us off the coffin thing...:p [/QUOTE

Well, april 27th is over a month away, so this won't be the end of the coffin disccusion for a bit.

well, How about this?

We could have another long and pointless discussion on what is or isn't a spoiler or why we need a separate thread for them.

Originally posted by dmbatch
well, How about this?

[spoiler]We could have another long and pointless discussion on what is or isn't a spoiler or why we need a separate thread for them.[/spoiler

haha, that's why we asked for no spoilers here, missing a "]"

Originally posted by cyberbri
Why would the airlines have coffins at all? Originally posted by aaronwt
I hope to only ship dead people. Or perhaps the "un-dead"... Vampires!!!:eek:

http://home.nycap.rr.com/nessus/selene_1024x768.jpg

That girl is so hot in that movie, I would let her bite my neck anytime :D

Deaderal Express -- "I ship dead people."

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/98/23/48m.jpg

Xesdeeni

Who died?



"are we there yet?"
"Are we there yet?"

"How much longer do we have to wait!?!?"

But Medium is on tonight. :)

- Tom

Yup!!

Just thought I'd take this time to link you guys to a brand spanking new picture of Evangeline Lilly and her buttcheeks. :D

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&meta=lastup&cat=15&pos=0

Love the file name "elilly-cheeks.jpg" :)

Originally posted by CPanther95
Love the file name "elilly-cheeks.jpg" :)
YEAH I KNOW!!! LOL. I loved it too! Nice cheeks on her:D

WOW! Did you click on that and view it in full size? UFB

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/normal_elilly-cheeks.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/normal_elilly-spin05.jpg

Cute butt, not the kind that I love but certainly very yummy.

I just love her face though. So cute and perky. The dark and mysterious look is great her on her.

This is one of my favorite pics of her. Such a cutie.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/neoufo51/normal_evangeline-002.jpg

Originally posted by dmbatch
WOW! Did you click on that and view it in full size? UFB

Good Tip!!

Don't forget about our favorite "Cylon" on BSG:

http://home.nycap.rr.com/nessus/gm_l1.jpg

Originally posted by Flyer1
Good Tip!!

Seriously!

So, did you yokels bother to look at the other pictures on that site?

They mention stuff about LOST, which might be spoilery so I won't mention here...

But they also mention that Evangeline was a flight attendant before acting... and that Jin's accent is so bad because he's far south korean, and second generation at that... I don't know... some more interesting stuff on that site rather than resorting to Cylons... (Shouldn't those be at another site... moderation is apparently rough here)...

Maybe we should talk about what you think could happen in the next episode... and we can muse about why they moved the dates (it was originally the second week of april for new shows...)...

Yadda yadda... this stuff with the pictures is very unfortunate, a sad commentary, I would say...

Originally posted by bronowyn
So, did you yokels bother to look at the other pictures on that site?
This yokel did look at a few of them. ;) I was thinking they must have had "Charley" standing on some unseen phone books in some of the group shots!
:D

I looked at a few, but I wish they had all the "good" ones grouped together. ;)

Originally posted by optivity
Don't forget about our favorite "Cylon" on BSG:

http://home.nycap.rr.com/nessus/gm_l1.jpg

Sorry, but I have a different favorite cylon.
http://www.maximonline.com/girls/tricia_helfer/gm_l1.jpg
http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/153/857318.jpg
http://battlestar.ugo.com/images/girls//tricia_helfer/large/tricia_helfer_21.jpg

Whoa...

Hmmm...I'm gonna have to go with Grace Park on this one. Tricia Helfer is nice but hey, I've got my preference on this "would you rather" scenario.

I hate to get back on topic, but what episode is airing tonight?

The Boone/Shannon backstory.

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
Sorry, but I have a different favorite cylon.
OK, we will have to agree to disagree. Maybe after she has her 2nd child... the newly available Denise Richards will show up on Lost:

http://home.nycap.rr.com/nessus/denise.jpg

and... whatever happened to my "favorite" Baywatch babe???

http://home.nycap.rr.com/nessus/bleeth027.jpg

she would be a "great" BSG or Lost addition...

Lost

Hearts and Minds
(Repeat)

A strange unearthed discovery rattles Boone, whose dark past is revealed in a shocking backstory that recalls his life with Shannon and presages the return of the beast. Another revelation concerns soft-spoken Sun, who becomes a confidante of Kate. (2005)
High Definition (HD) program shown in 720p

Taken from here (http://titantv.com)

OK, what are the clues and innuendos to look out for in this episode that we discussed way back when? Other than the pissed-off giraffe ripping up a giant tree?

I for one believe Boone's drug-induced hallucination may be closer to reality than we all thought.

Originally posted by neoufo51
Cute butt, not the kind that I love but certainly very yummy. What more could you want? You could crack an egg on that hiney. ;)

Originally posted by bronowyn
Maybe we should talk about what you think could happen in the next episode... and we can muse about why they moved the dates (it was originally the second week of april for new shows...)...

Yadda yadda... this stuff with the pictures is very unfortunate, a sad commentary, I would say... To heck with that bronowyn ...let's see some more pics! ;)

Bronowyn - not browneye... I think since they are separating lost into no spoiler and spoiler thread.. why don't you guys just get a "hot chicks" thread so the rest of us can speculate.

Originally posted by bronowyn
Bronowyn - not browneye... I think since they are separating lost into no spoiler and spoiler thread.. why don't you guys just get a "hot chicks" thread so the rest of us can speculate. Agreed.
You could make an argument that the pictures of "Lost" chicks are as much on topic as a lot of other stuff on this thread (and not all that bothersome in moderation and during down times like this), but Denise Richards and other miscellaneous nobodies? Enough. Just my opinion.
But do post a link the "hot chicks" thread if you start one.:D (just kidding, please don't)

Originally posted by TheTimm
Agreed.
You could make an argument that the pictures of "Lost" chicks are as much on topic as a lot of other stuff on this thread (and not all that bothersome in moderation and during down times like this), but Denise Richards and other miscellaneous nobodies? Enough. Just my opinion.
But do post a link the "hot chicks" thread if you start one.:D (just kidding, please don't)

I for one would prefer the pics to endless discussion of 'was he breathing and if so was it intentional' tirades. We're in a long drought between new eps, the legitimate speculation has dried up and we're just trying to keep the thread alive until the new eps kick in.

So why not discuss speculative things about ... where they are really and why..

a few theories:

1. Purgatory
2. Everyone else on earth is dead, and they are all that's left
3. Government experiment island
4. Alien terrerium island

That's what I'm looking for... why are they (the particular they there)..
will rose's husband appear.. who are the "others".. are there "others" in addition to the others... how come they aren't figuring out that cable... why haven't they rigged up something to bring water to the beach... How come Kate wanted that airplane that bad? ...

you catch the drift.

bronowyn - I was half kidding. I like the pics but prefer an equal or greater amount of on topic discussion. Problem is there isn't much to discuss recently.

I have been thinking about all these unanswered questions and where they are leading to. It will be really interesting to see what happens to viewership when these big mysteries are revealed. I am speculating a large number of viewers will be disappointed with the outcome...but I hope not. I wonder if they will ever reveal the big mystery of the island until they know the show has been cancelled. Anyone recall any similar episodic TV shows with this formula? The one that comes to mind for me is The Prisoner (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061287/) with Patrick McGoohan in the 60's.

Why did Kate want that airplaine so bad?

Originally posted by bronowyn
So why not discuss speculative things about ... where they are really and why..

a few theories:

1. Purgatory
2. Everyone else on earth is dead, and they are all that's left
3. Government experiment island
4. Alien terrerium island

That's what I'm looking for... why are they (the particular they there)..
will rose's husband appear.. who are the "others".. are there "others" in addition to the others... how come they aren't figuring out that cable... why haven't they rigged up something to bring water to the beach... How come Kate wanted that airplane that bad? ...

you catch the drift.

EVERYONE catches your drift, the point is we have no new information on which to base any of this. All of your questions have NO ANSWERS and won't until we get some new episodes.

1) The Producers of the show have gone on record about this already
2) No indications whatsoever that this is the case (or is not the case)
3) Fine, but what actual episodic evidence do we have to base this on?
4) Fine again, evidence?

I agree there are plenty of things that COULD be discussed, but no actual information with which to discuss them intelligently. Besides, they're all clones anyway. :-)

According to J.J. Abrams, is that the actress behind the castaway, L. Scott Caldwell, landed a play and has been unavailable. However, J.J. says viewers "will definitely see Rose again." He also described the show's 90-minute season finale as "mind-blowing. It's got a wonderful bookend quality to the season. In addition to answering a number of questions, it also raises some infinitely bigger ones."

-Tvguide.com

Don't worry guys, the writers of the show will neatly settle all of our questions we have at the end ..... of season 5 !!!

Originally posted by NorthJersey
Don't worry guys, the writers of the show will neatly settle all of our questions we have at the end ..... of season 5 !!!

...for the half-dozen viewers who'll still care.

Originally posted by neoufo51
According to J.J. Abrams, is that the actress behind the castaway, L. Scott Caldwell, landed a play and has been unavailable. However, J.J. says viewers "will definitely see Rose again." ...
-Tvguide.com

?? the actress behind the castaway?? who is that? Rose, is that the black woman we have seen in only a couple of episodes?

Yes, Rose is the woman that we've seen... she lost her husband... she's wearing his ring on a necklace.

I think I found her name on "The Fuselage", but it's also on IMDB..

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0129749/

Originally posted by tall1
The one that comes to mind for me is The Prisoner (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061287/) with Patrick McGoohan in the 60's.

The 1960's!!! um....I can't go back that far, can I start at, let's say...the 80's??

Sorry, couldn't resist :D

Originally posted by auburn97
OK, what are the clues and innuendos to look out for in this episode that we discussed way back when? Other than the pissed-off giraffe ripping up a giant tree?

I for one believe Boone's drug-induced hallucination may be closer to reality than we all thought.

Do we have to post rerun spoilers to the spoiler thread?

Originally posted by Dynot
...for the half-dozen viewers who'll still care.

Dynot, what's the count Feb. 22 through March 21?

Originally posted by maxman
Do we have to post rerun spoilers to the spoiler thread?

:D

Originally posted by maxman
Do we have to post rerun spoilers to the spoiler thread? No, you have to use the "Rerun Spoilers Only" thread in order to avoid confusion between speculation, new spoilers and spoilers that have already been spoiled. It's still important not to spoil what has already been spoiled in order to prevent spoiling things for those that haven't seen such spoilers the first time around.



;)

After re-watching the Boone episode, here are a couple things that stood out to me that I don't remember being discussed before:

In the scene with Locke and Sayid in the jungle, just before Locke gives Sayid the compass, he says "I wasn't the most popular kid," followed by a pregnant pause. He talked about being a Webelo and tieing knots and bird identification, two badges easily earned from the seat of a wheelchair, as opposed to canoeing, hiking, swimming, etc. Just interesting that he chose those two activities, and it would be easy to see how he wouldn't have been too popular as a young boy in a wheel chair. I know he said that he had lost use of his legs four years prior to his walk-about, but perhaps this is an on-off type of ailment with him. Certainly judging from the preview for next week, it looks like he may regret burning his wheelchair in the pyre.

In the scene with Locke and Jack on the beach, when they are discussing the dwindling boar population, Locke makes the comment that they (survivors) "are the most dangerous predator of all." Interesting given there is something in the jungle that has killed and mangled the pilot.

Did anyone catch the previews for next week's(?) episode at the end? Why aren't people talking about it? Did they accidentally show it in our area only (I thought there would be a few more weeks of reruns)?


It showed Boone and Locke walking in the jungle, and Locke stumbles. He says something like "the island gave me something, looks like it's trying to take it back" -- legs going out, having trouble walking...

Originally posted by auburn97
Certainly judging from the preview for next week, it looks like he may regret burning his wheelchair in the pyre. The wheelchair wasn't burnt. It was sitting off to the side. Besides, there's nothing you would what to burn on a wheelchair: chromed metal, rubber, vinyl and polyurethane foam - I don't want to breath the fumes from any of that.

Besides, Claire might need the chair very soon if Locke doesn't commit to it.

Originally posted by cyberbri
Did anyone catch the previews for next week's(?) episode at the end? Why aren't people talking about it? Did they accidentally show it in our area only (I thought there would be a few more weeks of reruns)?


It showed Boone and Locke walking in the jungle, and Locke stumbles. He says something like "the island gave me something, looks like it's trying to take it back" -- legs going out, having trouble walking...

I saw it when I flipped to the channel to watch Alias, looks like its going to be a good episode. There was also a plane...

Originally posted by maxman
Dynot, what's the count Feb. 22 through March 21?

Final numbers to March 21st:

Months ending the 21st:
1. Oct - 1,132
2. Nov - 828
3. Dec - 620
4. Jan - 737
5. Feb - 676
6. Mar - 1,118

There have been 482 different posters with the top 3 being:
1. keenan - 238
2. CPanther95 - 218
3. JayDog_2 - 213

So do we have a new episode next Wednesday again?

Originally posted by mknoebel
So do we have a new episode next Wednesday again?

Yes!

It doesn't seem like 6 weeks off though.

Does anyone have a link to the preview for next week?

Originally posted by Dynot
Final numbers to March 21st:

Months ending the 21st:
1. Oct - 1,132
2. Nov - 828
3. Dec - 620
4. Jan - 737
5. Feb - 676
6. Mar - 1,118

There have been 482 different posters with the top 3 being:
1. keenan - 238
2. CPanther95 - 218
3. JayDog_2 - 213

Thanks Dynot. CPanther95 doesn't really count though.

Thanks! No, it didn't seem like 6 weeks off - and I haven't been following this thread much during the reruns.

Originally posted by Dynot
Final numbers to March 21st:

Months ending the 21st:
1. Oct - 1,132
2. Nov - 828
3. Dec - 620
4. Jan - 737
5. Feb - 676
6. Mar - 1,118

There have been 482 different posters with the top 3 being:
1. keenan - 238
2. CPanther95 - 218
3. JayDog_2 - 213

Mine shouldn't count. Top 5 would be:

1. keenan - 238
2. JayDog_2 - 213
3. hefe - 177
4. Iteki - 170
5. maxman - 163

Originally posted by maxman
It doesn't seem like 6 weeks off though.

It ended up being shortened.

Wow... wished I watched last nights episode to catch to preview... FINALLY a new episode...

Nice to see that even though I haven't posted much here the last couple weeks, I'm still holding the #2 spot... (not counting CP95) :)


Oh... and I don't mind the 'hot chick' pictures at all... as long as there is some loose connection to 'Lost'.. like "this chick is hotter than evangeline!" That's all I need... ;)

Originally posted by bronowyn
why don't you guys just get a "hot chicks" thread so the rest of us can speculate. Originally posted by TheTimm
Agreed.
You could make an argument that the pictures of "Lost" chicks are as much on topic as a lot of other stuff on this thread... but Denise Richards and other miscellaneous nobodies? Enough. OK. Sorry. Per your request all "hot chicks" pics have been removed.

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Oh... and I don't mind the 'hot chick' pictures at all... as long as there is some loose connection to 'Lost'.. like "this chick is hotter than evangeline!" That's all I need... ;)

That would severly limit the number of pics posted.

:D

Perhaps, but think of the great pictures we'd have to look at!! :)

Originally posted by optivity
OK. Sorry. Per your request all "hot chicks" pics have been removed.

Now I can read this thread at work without people thinking I was a perv. :D

People already know I'm a perv....

bring on the pics!!

http://backpagegallery.news24.com/person/Cuthbert/images/15.jpg

Lost connection? She should've gotten the part currently played by Maggie Grace.... oh baby...

Imagine for a moment what people where thinking about me...

Thank you!

Edit: Spoke too soon.. :P~~~

^ I hope that's drool.... :D

It's spittle... like a raspberry.

Originally posted by JayDog_2
People already know I'm a perv....

bring on the pics!!

http://backpagegallery.news24.com/person/Cuthbert/images/15.jpg

Lost connection? She should've gotten the part currently played by Maggie Grace.... oh baby... If this is your story and you are sticking to it... since there is "nothing" wrong with either Maggie Grace or Elisha Cuthbert... I vote for Grace Park to replace Yunjin Kim, so I can see "Boomer" on both BSG & Lost!:D

BTW... nice "hot chick" pic.

Yeah...

BTW, was I the only one bummed once I learned that even the un-rated version of 'The Girl Next Door' had no 'extra' views of Elisha? Damn shame...

Oh, and speaking of Grace Park...
http://www.paris-hilton-sex.com/g/Grace-Park/gm_l3.jpg
http://www.paris-hilton-sex.com/g/Grace-Park/gm_l4.jpg

More to justify your statement... :)

Seriously, what the f*@%. Go post your pictures on the Battlestar Galactica thread or the 24 thread, not this one.

I'm going to ask my LOST question one more time... does anyone have the preview for next week, or know where I can find it? I was bringing my dog to the animal hospital, so I missed it.

Enough with the pics, guys - stick to Lost stars and preferably as an attachment, not embedded in the thread (especially the "good" ones ;) )

Heh... sorry.. (not really though, but okay... :))

I haven't seen the lost preview anywhere online, but I would think it will be aired during the week. I saw it on another show (I can't remember which one, though) but I think mine was a little shorter.

Wow... wished I watched last nights episode to catch to preview... FINALLY a new episode...

Glad I DID catch the end of last nights episode or I'd have missed next weeks new episode for sure.

Originally posted by mx6bfast
Now I can read this thread at work without people thinking I was a perv. :D

Uh...they already know.

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Oh, and speaking of Grace Park...


Hey, I didn't think the golfer Grace Park looked that good!!

Originally posted by bronowyn
I'm going to ask my LOST question one more time... does anyone have the preview for next week, or know where I can find it?

Always check here for the latest previews. Only 1.2 MB in RM format.

And don't discuss it, because it will make a bunch of people start PMSing.

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=2&min=10&orderby=titleA&show=10

And don't discuss it, because it will make a bunch of people start PMSing.

LMAO - Well put - thank you!

Originally posted by bronowyn
Seriously, what the f*@%. Go post your pictures on the Battlestar Galactica thread or the 24 thread, not this one. "bronowyn" I think you've missed your "true calling..." Network TV Censor!:p What's your reaction when the show's producer requires Evangeline Lilly to pose for an "obligatory" bikini shot every now & then?:eek:

Originally posted by CPanther95
Mine shouldn't count. Top 5 would be:

1. keenan - 238
2. JayDog_2 - 213
3. hefe - 177
4. Iteki - 170
5. maxman - 163

Finally - some recognition!

Originally posted by maxman
Finally - some recognition! I'm right behind you with 131 'quality':confused: posts... For example, post #132:

"Cathrine: "You remember Ruby Sue?
Frances: "Oh yeah. Oh my gosh, her eyes aren't crossed anymore."
Eddie: "That's something ain't it? She falls in a well, eyes go crossed. She gets kicked by a mule, they go back to normal. I don't know."

Originally posted by optivity
"bronowyn" I think you've missed your "true calling..." Network TV Censor!:p What's your reaction when the show's producer requires Evangeline Lilly to pose for an "obligatory" bikini shot every now & then?:eek:

<RANT>Actually, I don't care, whatever, that you people want to show shots of the women of LOST, but the women of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, 24, and Baywatch.. that's where I draw the line. Many people on AVS forums in general complain that their wives don't get into HD... who can blame them though when their husbands are spending their time on an HD forum getting their rocks off.

As for being a Censor, I doubt it... I listen to Howard Stern, I actually bought my fiance a SIRIUS for when he comes to Satellite... I think that the reason for most laws concerning censorship is because (as with most laws in general) that people just can't stop themselves they take it too far. Much like here.</RANT>

What's the point of comments like that?... If you want to discuss lost, great, let's discuss lost... I just saw the preview, and although I know a lot of people avoid it here, I'm very excited about it. I wasn't expecting what they showed there. Maybe the Moderator can tell me, because I'm not sure.. do previews count as spoilers? I'm dying to discuss it.

Originally posted by bronowyn
do previews count as spoilers?

No, if its been aired its not a spoiler.

Some people take things a little too personally here. I did not comment on the question about the preview next week because I did not see it. I'm sure that's the same reason for many people on this board, because the show was a rerun. If it was at the end of a new show you would probably see much more talk about it.

I'll wait then, it looks good.. but I'll wait to talk about it in respect for other people on the boards (I just saw it because of the lost-media link!)

Thanks!

Bronowyn- feel free to discuss it. Panther has stated many times if it is a preview that aired, it is fair game.

Preview recap:
It looks like Locke begins to lose his ability to walk, and I'd love to know what's on the downed plane. What a way to introduce a new cast member to the show if the pilot survives.
Also in the preview, it appears that Locke may meet up with the pissed-off giraffe again, but this time he has a look of sheer terror on his face as he looks up.
Meanwhile, Sawyer may have some pre-existing medical conditions that we didn't know about. I wonder if he's losing his sight.

Man I can't wait for Wednesday night.

Originally posted by bronowyn
<RANT>Actually, I don't care, whatever, that you people want to show shots of the women of LOST, but the women of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, 24, and Baywatch.. that's where I draw the line. Many people on AVS forums in general complain that their wives don't get into HD... who can blame them though when their husbands are spending their time on an HD forum getting their rocks off.



Hopefully some new eps will make this back and forth griping go away...

Do a search on preview and spoiler and you'll get the answer to your question...it's been discussed ad nauseum.

Well, the plane in the preview sounded like it used a prop, not a jet and it looked like an old WWII airplane. The cockpit in another shot looked pretty dated, too.

While some sort of time anomoly would explain WWII craft, it wouldn't explain a polar bear unless they go back to a reversing of the poles and an ice age or two.

Since Boone is calling Mayday, I doubt the pilot would have been a survivor of the crash. Given that both Locke and Boone see the plane, it is not likely a hallucination.

Does anybody know what character this episode centers around? Is it a second Locke story?

it is a second locke story.

From ABC.com


"Next Episode:
Wednesday, March 30, 8/7c
"Deus Ex Machina"
Boone becomes concerned when Locke suffers physical problems while they try to find a way into the mysterious hatch. Meanwhile, Jack is reluctant to help when Sawyer starts to experience excruciating headaches, and Michael and Jin struggle to communicate while working together on the raft."


Doesn't say who's Backstory is shown.

I wish ABC would fix their diary on the Lost website. It is still missing a couple of days.

As long as the Harlem Globetrotters aren't on the plane, we'll be OK

Originally posted by fhall1
As long as the Harlem Globetrotters aren't on the plane, we'll be OK

roh rowe raggy!

Originally posted by rdwalt
From ABC.com


"Next Episode:
Wednesday, March 30, 8/7c
"Deus Ex Machina"
Boone becomes concerned when Locke suffers physical problems while they try to find a way into the mysterious hatch. Meanwhile, Jack is reluctant to help when Sawyer starts to experience excruciating headaches, and Michael and Jin struggle to communicate while working together on the raft."


Doesn't say who's Backstory is shown.

This is the NO-SPOILER thread don'tcha know.

Maybe Amelia Earhart finally found an island to land on?

Originally posted by jbradway
Maybe Amelia Earhart finally found an island to land on?

The LOST island is very near where she would have ended up.

Hi All.

There is a 5 pager on Lost at E online. There are spoilers so be careful.

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Archive2005/050325.html

Originally posted by CPanther95
The LOST island is very near where she would have ended up.

My tongue wasn't real firmly planted on that one. You never know what JJ is going to throw into the mix. :)

The episode title for next week is really suspicious. If you google the title and find out what it means in English, it's somewhat of a spoiler in itself.

Originally posted by Dynot

There have been 482 different posters with the top 3 being:
1. keenan - 238
2. CPanther95 - 218
3. JayDog_2 - 213

WTF? Who cares. I thought this was a lost thread, not a pi$$ing contest. A quote from Shrek 1 "do you think he is compensating for something"? I mean come on, do you count 1 or 2 word posts count as a post? Just more BS a poor sole has to read to catch up.

Sorry, but had to get it off my chest.

tobwco:

Please stick to the topic of "LOST". These non-LOST posts are obviously just to pad your post count. :D Yes, I'm just kidding


3 DAYS!

Originally posted by tobwco
WTF? Who cares. I thought this was a lost thread, not a pi$$ing contest. A quote from Shrek 1 "do you think he is compensating for something"? I mean come on, do you count 1 or 2 word posts count as a post? Just more BS a poor sole has to read to catch up.

Sorry, but had to get it off my chest.

If you really want to get it off your chest DON'T READ THE STATS!

Nobody's pi$$ing on ya...just thought I'd put up some interesting stats during this re-run period.

And to answer your question, yes there are those who asked.

Dude, I think you should seriously consider anger management.

Barrybud, I didn't see much in the way of spoilers in that E! column. I did think the little video of JJ Abrams a little funny.

It sounded like somebody heard their mayday on the plane's radio, but that might just bring more people to meet the fate of the island and there isn't a guarantee that it will do anything more than just cause the demise of more red shirts.

Man, this thread has gotten so slow lately. I bet it stays like that until Wednesday evening and then will have an extra 3 pages before the West Coast showing is off the air.

Originally posted by Dynot
Dude, I think you should seriously consider anger management.

That's what my wife says :D

Next episode = Deux Machina

We know that's a play on Deus Ex Machina, "god in the machine", right? But what else could it mean?

"Deux" is French for two. Two machines (even though the title is singular, not plural)? If so, what machines?

Two airplanes? Looks like #2 (at least) finds the island this week.

Or maybe the two machines are: 1) airplane and 2) whatever lurks behind that hatch (are Locke and Boone working on the hatch again this week?)

Just food for thought in the home stretch to a new episode...

At someone else's suggestion, I googled Deus ex machina, and this is what I came up with...

"In some ancient Greek drama, an apparently insoluble crisis was solved by the intervention of a god, often brought on stage by an elaborate piece of equipment. This "god from the machine" was literally a deus ex machina.
Few modern works feature deities suspended by wires from the ceiling, but the term deus ex machina is still used for cases where an author uses some improbable (and often clumsy) plot device to work his or her way out of a difficult situation. When the cavalry comes charging over the hill or when the impoverished hero is relieved by an unexpected inheritance, it's often called a deus ex machina."


My guess that the double meaning is also the writers having a little fun after writing themselves out of a hole.

I've been leaning to the "clumsy plot device" aspect of the definition - like maybe it was all just a dream. ;)

Season premier of Alias Season 4 is the perfect example of a "deus ex machina"

probably Deux Machina, in this case, refers to the plane that appears over the island. The pilot(s) appear as Gods that can rescue them off the island.

Good God!


Is it Wednesday yet?!?

Originally posted by htevolution
Next episode = Deux Machina

We know that's a play on Deus Ex Machina, "god in the machine", right? But what else could it mean?The next episode title is, in fact, "Deus Ex Machina." No "play on" anything, according to all sources I've checked (ABC's "official" site, TiVo program guide, lost-tv.com, lost-media.com).

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Good God!


Is it Wednesday yet?!?

30 hours and counting...:D

Originally posted by tbb1226
The next episode title is, in fact, "Deus Ex Machina." No "play on" anything, according to all sources I've checked (ABC's "official" site, TiVo program guide, lost-tv.com, lost-media.com).

According to TVTome, we're both wrong. They show the title as "Deux Ex Machina." http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-24313/epid-397844/

There are some interesting notes/speculation about the title on that page, too. It's worth a quick read.

NOTE: The official ABC site does have it as "Deus Ex Machina."

Dictionary.com definition:

deus ex ma·chi·na ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ks mäk-n, -nä, mk-n)
n.
1. In Greek and Roman drama, a god lowered by stage machinery to resolve a plot or extricate the protagonist from a difficult situation.
2. An unexpected, artificial, or improbable character, device, or event introduced suddenly in a work of fiction or drama to resolve a situation or untangle a plot.
3. A person or event that provides a sudden and unexpected solution to a difficulty.

My guess is that there will be a plot development in Wednesday's episode with a convenient answer to a lot of speculation. The title almost seems to be a warning of the intent to mislead however.

I want my "Lost"!!! Great Hurley episode and then........

Paul

ABC and Fox brace for battle of titans

'Lost,' 'Idol' face-off in end-of-season showdown

By JOSEF ADALIAN variety.com

ABC and Fox are headed for an end-of-season smackdown that will pit the season-enders of two of TV's hottest shows against each other. ABC has decided to expand the frosh finale of the JJ Abrams/Damon Lindelof thriller "Lost" to two hours and, more importantly, schedule it for the last night of the season: Wednesday, May 25, from 8-10 p.m. That will place "Lost" directly opposite Fox's two-hour season four finale of "American Idol."

More here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=5405337#post5405337

By the time May sweeps gets here, the Lost finale will probably be a 15-hour, 5-Day event. ;)

Now I'm even more glad I don't watch AI.

Considering AI will be a 2 hour show just to announce which of the 2 finalist won I think Lost will easily win this one. I can record AI and watch the last 2 minutes to get the answer.

So to pass some time today until 8 p.m. EST, why doesn't everyone post who they think the first "regular" castmember to be killed of on Lost, and how...I'll start:

Sawyer, trying to do the right thing for the first time, dies in an attempt to save another castaway.

Locke dies in a freak wheelchair accident.

Hurley sees the numbers on the hatch and goes beserk, attacking the nearest person - Michael. Jin steps in to save Michael and trips, hitting his head right on the numbers and getting killed. Hurley falls down, crying that the numbers have killed again.

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
Hurley sees the numbers on the hatch and goes beserk, attacking the nearest person - Michael. Jin steps in to save Michael and trips, hitting his head right on the numbers and getting killed. Hurley falls down, crying that the numbers have killed again.

i'm hoping Walt gets mauled by his dog :-)

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
Hurley sees the numbers on the hatch and goes beserk, attacking the nearest person - Michael. Jin steps in to save Michael and trips, hitting his head right on the numbers and getting killed. Hurley falls down, crying that the numbers have killed again.

King of overkill, no kidding. :)

I think, from a more practical standpoint.. Claire will die in childbirth. (My pregnant friends don't like it when I tell them that theory...)

Rose. She doesn't get much screen time as it is, she's not in the right demographic and the actress has another gig somewhere.

Originally posted by CPanther95
By the time May sweeps gets here, the Lost finale will probably be a 15-hour, 5-Day event. ;)

haha your probably right.

I'd like to see an AI type finale for Lost. They can tape say 4 different endings. Then the phone lines will open for 48 hours so we can call in and choose who we want to live. The person with the lowest amount of votes will die in the season finale.

-or-

The loser of the AI finale will win a plane trip to Fiji, or whevere they are, and they crash on an island.

Originally posted by fredfa
ABC and Fox brace for battle of titans

'Lost,' 'Idol' face-off in end-of-season showdown

By JOSEF ADALIAN variety.com

ABC and Fox are headed for an end-of-season smackdown that will pit the season-enders of two of TV's hottest shows against each other. ABC has decided to expand the frosh finale of the JJ Abrams/Damon Lindelof thriller "Lost" to two hours and, more importantly, schedule it for the last night of the season: Wednesday, May 25, from 8-10 p.m. That will place "Lost" directly opposite Fox's two-hour season four finale of "American Idol."

More here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=5405337#post5405337

I guess thats why DVRs are so popular.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by fredfa
[B] ABC and Fox brace for battle of titans

'Lost,' 'Idol' face-off in end-of-season showdown

By JOSEF ADALIAN variety.com

ABC and Fox are headed for an end-of-season smackdown that will pit the season-enders of two of TV's hottest shows against each other. ABC has decided to expand the frosh finale of the JJ Abrams/Damon Lindelof thriller "Lost" to two hours and, more importantly, schedule it for the last night of the season: Wednesday, May 25, from 8-10 p.m. That will place "Lost" directly opposite Fox's two-hour season four finale of "American Idol."

And why is this a problem to ABC?
...and the winner is...
ABC
"American Idol, come back when you develop some talent"!
Simon

Originally posted by TrnsplantBuckeye
[QUOTE]Originally posted by fredfa
[B] ABC and Fox brace for battle of titans

'Lost,' 'Idol' face-off in end-of-season showdown

By JOSEF ADALIAN variety.com

ABC and Fox are headed for an end-of-season smackdown that will pit the season-enders of two of TV's hottest shows against each other. ABC has decided to expand the frosh finale of the JJ Abrams/Damon Lindelof thriller "Lost" to two hours and, more importantly, schedule it for the last night of the season: Wednesday, May 25, from 8-10 p.m. That will place "Lost" directly opposite Fox's two-hour season four finale of "American Idol."

And why is this a problem to ABC?
...and the winner is...
ABC
"American Idol, come back when you develop some talent"!
Simon We should be "blessed" with as much talent as these kids... Thanks to my SA8300HD-DVR I plan to record "both" shows while watching the Lost broadcast, then American Idol. Looks to be a late night...

Originally posted by auburn97
So to pass some time today until 8 p.m. EST, why doesn't everyone post who they think the first "regular" castmember to be killed of on Lost, and how...I'll start:

Sawyer, trying to do the right thing for the first time, dies in an attempt to save another castaway. I'll second Sawyer. He is mysteriously shot and all summer the buzz will be, "Who Shot Sawyer?". ;)

Originally posted by auburn97
So to pass some time today until 8 p.m. EST, why doesn't everyone post who they think the first "regular" castmember to be killed of on Lost, and how...I'll start:

Sawyer, trying to do the right thing for the first time, dies in an attempt to save another castaway. Originally posted by tall1
I'll second Sawyer. He is mysteriously shot and all summer the buzz will be, "Who Shot Sawyer?". ;) My theory is... while wandering through the jungle, the "protein challenged" Hurley discovers an "unattended feast" consisting of wild boar pork ribs and "hard" coconut juice. While enjoying his libation and chowing down all that meat... a bone becomes lodged in his throat and the BIG guy "chokes to death!!!":eek:

Originally posted by optivity
My theory is... while wandering through the jungle, the "protein challenged" Hurley discovers an "unattended feast" consisting of wild boar pork ribs and "hard" coconut juice. While enjoying his libation and chowing down all that meat... a bone becomes lodged in his throat and the BIG guy "chokes to death!!!":eek:

Ah! I was wondering when the "Mama Cass" theory would come into play. :)

Originally posted by bronowyn
Ah! I was wondering when the "Mama Cass" theory would come into play. :) OK, I'll give you another scenario... Much to her chagrin.... Kate discovers that Jack & Sawyer have become "secret lovers!" Due to her unrequited love for both (either) (now I'm confused) and knowing she will never be able to share in their bond... a morosely depressed Kate throws herself from the highest cliff on the Island smashing her lithe (and up to this point "extremely hot") body on the rocks and surf below.

Originally posted by optivity
OK, I'll give you another scenario... Much to her chagrin.... Kate discovers that Jack & Sawyer have become "secret lovers!" Due to her unrequited love for both (either) (now I'm confused) and knowing she will never be able to share in their bond... a morosely depressed Kate throws herself from the highest cliff on the Island smashing her lithe (and up to this point "extremely hot") body on the rocks and surf below.

Very poetic...

I would personally like to see someone just drop dead for no apparent reason. One minute they'll be talking to someone and then their words will just stop as they drop to the ground. Yet another mystery of the island.

TitanTV say tonights Lost is a new one. Is that true??

Originally posted by PJO1966
Very poetic...

I would personally like to see someone just drop dead for no apparent reason. One minute they'll be talking to someone and then their words will just stop as they drop to the ground. Yet another mystery of the island. but, but, but... where is the "drama" in that?

Originally posted by pretzelkid
TitanTV say tonights Lost is a new one. Is that true??

yes it is

Originally posted by pretzelkid
TitanTV say tonights Lost is a new one. Is that true?? New episode promo... NOT a spoiler:

From abc.go.com:

Wednesday, March 30, 8/7c
"Deus Ex Machina"
Boone becomes concerned when Locke suffers physical problems while they try to find a way into the mysterious hatch. Meanwhile, Jack is reluctant to help when Sawyer starts to experience excruciating headaches, and Michael and Jin struggle to communicate while working together on the raft.

Originally posted by optivity
a morosely depressed Kate throws herself from the highest cliff on the Island smashing her lithe (and up to this point "extremely hot") body on the rocks and surf below. No, I think she goes up to the highest point of the island to do some experiments with a dummy made of wood with the thought of flinging herself off on the end of a rope. Of course she ultimately chickens out...

ron

Originally posted by mx6bfast
yes it is

Thanks...man that was a "quick" 5 or 6 weeks....:)

Kate is examining the little airplane, and for no apparent reason starts chewing on it. A wing breaks off and gets stuck in her throat....causing her death...once again proving airplane food is no good.

Originally posted by R11
No, I think she goes up to the highest point of the island to do some experiments with a dummy made of wood with the thought of flinging herself off on the end of a rope. Of course she ultimately chickens out...

ron Right... she must realize that her "hotness" is too much to waste on any one (or 2) man/men. Who knows... eventually Tom Cruise may show up to rescue her? (and just her... after all there is only so much room aboard his yacht, that is unless Claire & Shannon decide to come along... then he'll make some room).

Originally posted by optivity
Right... she must realize that her "hotness" is too much to waste on any one (or 2) man/men. Who knows... eventually Tom Cruise may show up to rescue her? (and just her... after all there is only so much room aboard his yacht, that is unless Claire & Shannon decide to come along... then he'll make some room).

I think that Tom would be more likely to rescue Sawyer.

Claire dying during childbirth would be major, since the psychic told here that she alone could raise this child.

No, Tom Hanks, Wilson in hand, arrives in his dugout canoe.

Originally posted by PJO1966
I think that Tom would be more likely to rescue Sawyer. Too bad we don't get to decide who goes. Seriously now, my "latest" theory is Michael drowns when he attempts to sail away from the island on his raft.

Originally posted by optivity
Too bad we don't get to decide who goes. Seriously now, my "latest" theory is Michael drowns when he attempts to sail away from the island on his raft.

What makes you think Michael can't swim?

Michael isn't going to be the only one on that raft. Sawyer bought passage on the boat and Jin will likely be on it as well considering how much help he is putting into it.

Anybody think that the "beloved character" might be the French woman, Rousseau?

CPanther95, you can swim, but how far can you swim? The tide looks pretty rough and if you hit a reef when a wave throws you off the boat, goodnight.

24 minutes till an ALL NEW LOST!

Time for me to get out of here until I get the chance to watch it...

Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
CPanther95, you can swim, but how far can you swim? The tide looks pretty rough and if you hit a reef when a wave throws you off the boat, goodnight.

Sorry, forgot the little wink. ;)

ok, so what is that set of symbols on Boones shirt?

the mouse trap game has to have a symbolism, man freaky scene with his mom and the whole she fall up the stairs she falls down the stairs
creepy
that was an old plane too?

The plane going down looked like a similar model to the toy Kate has.

Due to technical difficulties, the episode is not being shown in HD in Atlanta. WTF??? A message came across the screen to confirm.

It's wide-screen but does not appear to be HD. More like 480P or something.

they found a plane, you think locke was shot by his dad?

Originally posted by sayanythingrock
they found a plane, you think locke was shot by his dad?

That was my thought also.