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optivity
04-14-05, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by keenan
Wow, 300 pages and almost 6000 posts, and the season isn't even over yet... Originally posted by CPanther95
& 509 unique posters And perhaps most significantly... 318,946 Views.

rdwalt
04-14-05, 09:43 AM
I went "white" almost a year ago and never looked black... I mean back. :p

I read the TV guide interview too. Really good stuff! And yes.. spoilerish.

Flyer1
04-14-05, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by Matt L
I'd be "Lost" without AVS white....

"AVS white" - Please explain what this is :confused:

CPanther95
04-14-05, 09:59 AM
In your "User CP" settings, you can select a White background for the forum.

paul watkins
04-14-05, 10:40 AM
Oh nice, White is great!

I've sent friends to this forum in the past and the first thing they said to me was, "that forum is the ugliest forum i've ever seen."

jagouar
04-14-05, 10:44 AM
By chance will get ever get any new options in terms of color? White is still pretty bad but black is much much worse.... I would say thats probably my biggest complaint here is the lack of a decent color scheme.

Mr.Poindexter
04-14-05, 10:44 AM
I actually prefer the AVS Black.

I missed out on Stacked. I might need to check that out. Is it in HD?

Flyer1
04-14-05, 11:08 AM
WHOA! Can't do white - way too bright!

optivity
04-14-05, 11:12 AM
Right... white is too bright... Hard on the eyes...

Perhaps a nice "baby blue" will do???

NorthJersey
04-14-05, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by scowl
Somerhalder didn't live for many episodes on Smallville last year. Maybe dying is his thing now.

than he'd be a natural for CSI, L&O, House, etc. Guess he would play the perfect stiff

PJO1966
04-14-05, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by NorthJersey
than he'd be a natural for CSI, L&O, House, etc. Guess he would play the perfect stiff

Don't forget 24... he could be Jack's partner next season... for about 10 minutes.

optivity
04-14-05, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by PJO1966
Don't forget 24... he could be Jack's partner next season... for about 10 minutes. Or how about Buffy, Enterprise, Farscape, Bonanza... oh wait, those show's aren't on anymore...

CPanther95
04-14-05, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by PJO1966
Don't forget 24... he could be Jack's partner next season... for about 10 minutes.

Only if you include commercials. :)

PJO1966
04-14-05, 12:42 PM
well, it is real time, after all... the clock keeps ticking through the commercials.

;)

snordolio
04-14-05, 02:02 PM
The LOST game...

http://i-am-lost.com/


My apologies if this link is already in this thread, I didn't see it.

Hooray, I finally made my small contribution to this mighty thread!

auburn97
04-14-05, 02:27 PM
I don't understand that game- are there any instructions, or is it randomly moving the mouse around the various scenes just picking up "inventory"?

bronowyn
04-14-05, 02:44 PM
We weren't able to figure it out last time it was posted, either. ;)

Flyer1
04-14-05, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by optivity
Right... white is too bright... Hard on the eyes...

Perhaps a nice "baby blue" will do???

Hmmm...baby blue......do you have anything in a pink?

morgan1112
04-14-05, 03:04 PM
Just watched 'Suspect Zero' on DVD and the guy who played Ethan (as in past tense since he IS DEAD and BURIED!) is in the movie as an FBI agent. It's a bit part but it startled me when he showed up on screen. I yelled out 'Look out, he's evil!!' ok, not really.

optivity
04-14-05, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by Flyer1
Hmmm...baby blue......do you have anything in a pink? Now that would be simply SHOCKING!

Wolfie
04-14-05, 03:21 PM
Why would they show a repeat last night after Boone passed on last week. It looked like he was mysteriously reincarnated. :confused:

Wolfie

CPanther95
04-14-05, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by Flyer1
Hmmm...baby blue......do you have anything in a pink?

The new software may have many user customizable features (including colors).

PJO1966
04-14-05, 03:27 PM
I haven't watched last night's yet... I thought it was supposed to be a recap show...

catdaddy
04-14-05, 04:01 PM
I think Walts dog, Vincent, turned into the Polar Bear. The dog is not around when the bear is and when Walt was looking at the picture of the Polar Bear they kept showing the dog. Not sure the significance but I noticed this when I watched this episode for the second time.

NorthJersey
04-14-05, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by PJO1966
I haven't watched last night's yet... I thought it was supposed to be a recap show...

t'was a repeat, the recap is Apr 27, followed by the last new episodes in the weeks to follow

Mr.Poindexter
04-14-05, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by snordolio
The LOST game...

http://i-am-lost.com/


My apologies if this link is already in this thread, I didn't see it.

Hooray, I finally made my small contribution to this mighty thread!

You can only go as far in the game as they have shown on TV. This pretty much means you can get as far as finding the hatch and Rousseau's lair. You have to do things in the episode order, so you cannot get the battery until you have already gotten the eucalyptus.

It would be cool if you could finish the game, but you won't be able to do that for a couple of years and I don't feel like playing an online game that long. If you think it is a long stretch between new episodes, wait until you play the game!

PJO1966
04-14-05, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by NorthJersey
t'was a repeat, the recap is Apr 27, followed by the last new episodes in the weeks to follow

Thanks.

mx6bfast
04-14-05, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by catdaddy
I think Walts dog, Vincent, turned into the Polar Bear. The dog is not around when the bear is and when Walt was looking at the picture of the Polar Bear they kept showing the dog. Not sure the significance but I noticed this when I watched this episode for the second time.

The episode after the one where they stab the polar bear the dog comes running up to Walt with no signs of being injured.

maxman
04-14-05, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by CPanther95
The new software may have many user customizable features (including colors).

New software? What's new?

DrCrawn
04-14-05, 10:08 PM
Let me say I am defecting from LOST. Show started out great, now they just make crazy unbelievable supernatural stuff up from week to week.
All it took was watching a "fresh" Smallville last night to convince me to dump LOST. It just feels like they are making it up as it goes, the show has no backbone. Too many loose ends. Nothing gets resolved in the given hour. If you miss one show, you miss way too much. And since I am not dedicated to any TV show that much, so long LOST. I tried very hard to enjoy this show, but in the end I feel Smallville is simply superior. Boils down to the "fun factor" really. I have fun watching Smallville and find myself totally frustrated after an hour of LOST. It ends now.
Feel free to flame away:)

edit: Also, isn't it time a moderator change the title of this thread to "Spoilers Within" or something? I mean the title says "No Spoilers" but that is exactly what this thread is, a bunch of spoilers.

mx6bfast
04-14-05, 10:39 PM
Not gonna flame, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. You don't have to apologize for not watching a tv show anymore.

CPanther95
04-14-05, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by DrCrawn
If you miss one show, you miss way too much.

IMO, that is the mark of a great show.

DrCrawn
04-14-05, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by CPanther95
IMO, that is the mark of a great show.

No I agree to some extent with you. At my age, it is very hard to make an appointment every Wednesday night @8:00, that's all. I have lots more to say, but I gotta go watch the OC now then CSI :) Now those are two fantastic shows for very different reasons. Don't laugh.
But CPanther, I DO think the title of this thread should be changed or the "No Spoilers" removed.

CPanther95
04-14-05, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by maxman
New software? What's new?

The new vB forum software version. It's being tested now and should be uploaded within days or weeks (if there are no issues)

CPanther95
04-14-05, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by DrCrawn
But CPanther, I DO think the title of this thread should be changed or the "No Spoilers" removed.

Where are the spoilers?

aaronwt
04-14-05, 11:15 PM
Originally posted by DrCrawn
No I agree to some extent with you. At my age, it is very hard to make an appointment every Wednesday night @8:00, that's all. I have lots more to say, but I gotta go watch the OC now then CSI :) Now those are two fantastic shows for very different reasons. Don't laugh.
But CPanther, I DO think the title of this thread should be changed or the "No Spoilers" removed.

I've been time shifting TV shows for 20 years(HD for 3.5). You don't have to watch a show at the time it's on. You record it and watch it at your leisure. Instead of taking an hour it only takes up 45 minutes of your time since you don't have to watch all of the commercials.

Matt L
04-14-05, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by DrCrawn
Let me say I am defecting from LOST. Show started out great, now they just make crazy unbelievable supernatural stuff up from week to week.
All it took was watching a "fresh" Smallville last night to convince me to dump LOST. It just feels like they are making it up as it goes, the show has no backbone. Too many loose ends. Nothing gets resolved in the given hour. If you miss one show, you miss way too much. And since I am not dedicated to any TV show that much, so long LOST. I tried very hard to enjoy this show, but in the end I feel Smallville is simply superior. Boils down to the "fun factor" really. I have fun watching Smallville and find myself totally frustrated after an hour of LOST. It ends now.
Feel free to flame away:)



OK, so splitting Lex in two is realistic? :D

I think some of your frustration with Lost is due to the fact we really don't know where they are going with it. Right now there is nothing that couldn't somehow be rooted in reality. We don't know if Locke is nuts or is really communicating with the island. At this point everything is up for grabs, once they define where they are going with the story I think they will loose some viewers.

petergaryr
04-15-05, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by Matt L
OK, so splitting Lex in two is realistic? :D

I think some of your frustration with Lost is due to the fact we really don't know where they are going with it. Right now there is nothing that couldn't somehow be rooted in reality. We don't know if Locke is nuts or is really communicating with the island. At this point everything is up for grabs, once they define where they are going with the story I think they will loose some viewers.

Are you saying the Lord of the Flies, Gilligan's Island/Survivor, X-Files/Twilight Zone premise isn't defined??? :D

Actually, what I have enjoyed is that they have managed to take elements of all those shows and forge it into something that is more addictive than it has a right to be. Maybe that's what I like about it...it is unpredictable.

Granted, the writers may be "Lost". OTOH, the beginning episodes of Babylon 5 had trace elements of a 4 year (or 5 depending on what you thought of the 5th season) story arc that made sense once the whole series was completed.

rdwalt
04-15-05, 10:30 AM
I don't think "NO SPOILERS" is supposed to be a description but instead a request... and yes it would be full of "spoilers" if you're not watching every episode. :p

mollerup
04-15-05, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by DrCrawn
Let me say I am defecting from LOST. Show started out great, now they just make crazy unbelievable supernatural stuff up from week to week. All it took was watching a "fresh" Smallville last night to convince me to dump LOST.

But Smallville doesn't? Don't get me wrong, I like Smallville, but it is nowhere near the level of show LOST is. Half the time Smallville is just a "creature/bad guy of the week" teen drama type of show.

LOST's purpose it to intentionally give just enough information and leave out just enough to keep you guessing and coming back for more. The 6000+ posts on this board alone, not to mention it's top 10 ratings (17 million viewers) point out that many people enjoy the speculative nature of the show and like puzzles.

But I guess if you like shows that tie it all up for you at the end of each show, LOST is not for you. But, maybe you should finish out the season at least, as a lot of loose ends are supposed to be tied up--I hope!:eek:

CPanther95
04-15-05, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by rdwalt
I don't think "NO SPOILERS" is supposed to be a description but instead a request... and yes it would be full of "spoilers" if you're not watching every episode. :p

It's a description - and a request. A request that will be enforced unless I miss them.

NorthJersey
04-15-05, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by DrCrawn
No I agree to some extent with you. At my age, it is very hard to make an appointment every Wednesday night @8:00, that's all.

that's what DVR's are for (or to a lesser extent these days, a VCR)

Iteki
04-15-05, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by CPanther95
It's a description - and a request. A request that will be enforced unless I miss them.

COMING THIS FALL: THE ENFORCER!

Starring: Cpanther95 in the title role
Co-Starring:
Evangeline Lilly....Mrs. Enforcer
Grace Park...Enforcer's Mistress
Jessica Alba...random stripper

"Why'd you post that spoiler punk? Ya feel lucky?"

:-)

Mr.Poindexter
04-15-05, 11:26 AM
I am pretty happy with the pace the show is going. My only complaint is the gaps between new episodes. I would have saved the entire season and watched it all at once, but I would miss out on the discussions. I am watching Desperate Housewives and Lost weekly, but saving Alias season 4 (plus I still need to see all of season 3).

Most of the "supernatural" things are really just weird things that people assume are supernatural. Nobody knows why Locke couldn't walk and so they wouldn't be able to say what could cause him to walk again.

CPanther95
04-15-05, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Iteki
COMING THIS FALL: THE ENFORCER!

Starring: Cpanther95 in the title role
Co-Starring:
Evangeline Lilly....Mrs. Enforcer
Grace Park...Enforcer's Mistress
Jessica Alba...random stripper

"Why'd you post that spoiler punk? Ya feel lucky?"

:-)

:D

Hope it's a Late-Night Cinemax flick. Can we change Jessica Alba to "Stripper/Mistress' girlfriend"? :D

Iteki
04-15-05, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by CPanther95
:D

Hope it's a Late-Night Cinemax flick. Can we change Jessica Alba to "Stripper/Mistress' girlfriend"? :D

No problem...I'll even throw in a cheesy porn guitar soundtrack :-)

ridgefamus
04-15-05, 12:43 PM
I think Dr. Crawn's satisfaction with Smallville lies in the fact he knows the ending already - Clark Kent grows up to keep pounding on bad guys, including Luthor. Here's a show where everyone knows the ultimate outcome regardless of what each episode presents. LOST has not tipped its hand so it's one big guessing game resulting in 5000 posts just on AVS alone. (I discount about 1000 posts that have to do with hot babes' pics, who's got the most posts, "what's a spoiler" discussions, etc.) People just love mysteries.

mx6bfast
04-15-05, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
My only complaint is the gaps between new episodes.

This is also my biggest gripe. It's like hey, lets show 4 shows, throw in a 3 week break. Personally I don't look forward to the show after the breaks as much as I thought I would.

24 OTOH, I love the new format they are using. New show every week. It makes me feel good that I only have to wait 6 days to see a new episode.

Innova
04-15-05, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by ridgefamus
I think Dr. Crawn's satisfaction with Smallville lies in the fact he knows the ending already - Clark Kent grows up to keep pounding on bad guys, including Luthor. Here's a show where everyone knows the ultimate outcome regardless of what each episode presents. LOST has not tipped its hand so it's one big guessing game resulting in 5000 posts just on AVS alone. (I discount about 1000 posts that have to do with hot babes' pics, who's got the most posts, "what's a spoiler" discussions, etc.) People just love mysteries.

That must be why Titanic made so much money at the box office.....

:rolleyes:

:D

wco81
04-15-05, 02:13 PM
Wasn't Lost (and DH too) originally expected to run for like 13 episodes and then be replaced mid-season in their time slots?

I think the ratings forced them to try to stretch it out to May.

optivity
04-15-05, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by mx6bfast
This is also my biggest gripe. It's like hey, lets show 4 shows, throw in a 3 week break. Personally I don't look forward to the show after the breaks as much as I thought I would.

24 OTOH, I love the new format they are using. New show every week. It makes me feel good that I only have to wait 6 days to see a new episode. So what's the alternative??? New episodes of "Joey?":eek:

I must confess however... I watched "Jake In Progress" last night.:confused:

Being a manly man (and extremely comfortable with my sexual identity) I have to say that "John Stamos" is a handsome actor and I thought his show was mildly amusing.

I can see why he & "Rebecca Romijn-Stamos" were an "item" (if only for a short time).

Perhaps Mr. Stamos would be willing to join the cast of "The Enforcer" coming this fall? In a break from his traditional role, Stamos is going to play a character called "flamer-boy," the jealous ex-lover of the "star" of this show...

Does he feel like getting lucky "punk?" Well, will he?:p

Iteki
04-15-05, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by optivity
So what's the alternative??? New episodes of "Joey?":eek:

I must confess however... I watched "Jake In Progress" last night.:confused:

Being a manly man (and extremely comfortable with my sexual identity) I have to say that "John Stamos" is a handsome actor and I thought his show was mildly amusing.

I can see why he & "Rebecca Romijn-Stamos" were an "item" (if only for a short time).

Perhaps Mr. Stamos would be willing to join the cast of "The Enforcer" coming this fall? In a break from his traditional role, Stamos is going to play a character called "flamer-boy," the jealous ex-lover of the "star" of this show...

Does he feel like getting lucky "punk?" Well, will he?:p

NEXT TIME ON THE ENFORCER:

Some punk has posted a spoiler...and the entire world has it's panties in a bunch!

The US and Russia have begun FLAME WARS, and only ONE MAN can stop it.....

THE ENFORCER (dramatic music)

We should pitch this to FOX! :-)

optivity
04-15-05, 03:33 PM
Unexpectedly "flamer-boy" enters the room... Sent there by the Enforcer who is too busy attending to the "panties" of his "sexy" staff to put out the "flame" war between the US & Russia. Flamer-boy (the jealous ex-lover of the Enforcer), intends to "white-out " the "spoiler" in order to restore International "Peace & Harmony" but instead is so distracted thinking about his ex-lover's tryst with Evangeline, Grace & Jessica he commits this AVS Forum posting faux pax:

http://home.nycap.rr.com/nessus/lily4.JPG

Gasp!!! Another International Incident!!!! Can world order be restored?

Tune in next week for another episode of... The Enforcer!

IrmoGamecoq
04-15-05, 03:34 PM
You guys are definitely itching for a new episode...you're loopy! :D

ridgefamus
04-15-05, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by Innova
That must be why Titanic made so much money at the box office.....


And maybe why the next 23 top box office earners are fantasies. :rolleyes:

trbarry
04-15-05, 03:54 PM
They should make wall paper (room, not desktop) with a sprawling sequence of repeated Evangeline Lilly clones like depicted above.

- Tom

dmbatch
04-15-05, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by Innova
That must be why Titanic made so much money at the box office.....

:rolleyes:

:D

You know, I think I'm one of the few people in the world who has never seen that movie. I saw all the hype and everything but I just can't get interested in it.

On the other hand, I can't get enough of Lost.

CPanther95
04-15-05, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by ridgefamus
And maybe why the next 23 top box office earners are fantasies. :rolleyes:

But SW I and II fall under the "known outcome" category. ;)

Innova
04-15-05, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by dmbatch
You know, I think I'm one of the few people in the world who has never seen that movie. I saw all the hype and everything but I just can't get interested in it.

On the other hand, I can't get enough of Lost.

I have a friend that didn't see Titanic either. He always says the same thing when it is brought up (which is why I thought of the movie when it was mentioned that you know how the show is going to end). He says, "I know that the ship sinks, why would I go see it?"

CPanther95
04-15-05, 04:57 PM
Spoiler tags added to previous post.

Damn it, people - what part of NO SPOILERS do you not understand!


:D

trbarry
04-15-05, 05:04 PM
Spoiler tags added to previous post.

Very good one. ;)

No such thing as moderating in moderation.

- Tom

4HiMarks
04-15-05, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Innova
I have a friend that didn't see Titanic either.

I also have not seen it. Not only do I know how it ends, but it's depressing too. When I go to the movies, I want to be entertained. I can be depressed at home by myself without spending ten bucks.

-Chris

DrCrawn
04-15-05, 06:44 PM
Everyone is different. But I do not watch Smallville because I know how it will end or because I know the fate of Superman. It really has nothing to do with that. I do enjoy the hour format. I don't mind two part episodes, but frankly I feel LOST has gone downhill fast. It is not worth my time to keep up with the show. That's just how I feel.
Now, why is it so popular on AVS? Simple: it was a recycled theme with a fresh take with the most jaw dropping HD presentation on TV. The show's first 10 episodes were fantastic. I was intrigued. Unfortunately the entire show has become a joke IMO.
Someone said the value of the show is that you the viewer are unaware of the direction of the show. My feeling is that the writers are unaware of the direction of the show, a bad, bad thing.
Let me say again, it boils down to the fun factor for me. LOST isnt really a fun show, it's a frustrating show. I'd rather enjoy a good hour of TV and then go on with my life. I would be less frustrated if the writers resolved at least one issue from the previous episode before opening up three new cans of worms.
Also, regarding the supernatural aspect of the show, it is unbelievable, yet they try to make it a fairly realistic show. With shows like Smallville you know what to expect and you accept it. It's fun and you can laugh along. We know that the two Lexs will unite once again, and that's a good feeling. It's the journey up to that point that is the most interesting and exciting. With LOST, it just gets more ridiculous with each episode. If you can't buy into the premise of the show, it falls flat on its face.
And I do believe there will be more who will share my frustrations and boredom with this show in the future. Take for example possibly the best "intelligent" show ever made, Star Trek TNG. At the end of the hour, issues had been resolved, yet the Enterprise always moved on, deeper into space letting us know more adventures were to come. That was a great feeling. Tune in next week and all that jazz.

keenan
04-15-05, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by 4HiMarks
I also have not seen it. Not only do I know how it ends, but it's depressing too. When I go to the movies, I want to be entertained. I can be depressed at home by myself without spending ten bucks.

-Chris

Me three, never saw and won't, can't stand DiCaprio...

bobby94928
04-15-05, 07:47 PM
But it's a mesmerizing story, well directed, well acted by all involved. I liked it, a lot....

Keenan, we're neighbors, would you like to borrow my DVD????

keenan
04-15-05, 08:10 PM
Yeah, I might take you up on that...I guess I should see it...

maxman
04-15-05, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by Iteki
No problem...I'll even throw in a cheesy porn guitar soundtrack :-)

woh woh woh woh WOH woh

mx6bfast
04-15-05, 09:32 PM
Titanic is actually a good movie. When it starts to sink you watching thinking to yourself what would I do. One would almost feel "Lost"

btw I plan on seeing Star Wars 3 even tho I know Anakin becomes Darth Vader

maxman
04-15-05, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by 4HiMarks
I also have not seen it. Not only do I know how it ends, but it's depressing too. When I go to the movies, I want to be entertained. I can be depressed at home by myself without spending ten bucks.-Chris

You think you're depressed "by yourself" - try getting married.

CPanther95
04-15-05, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by keenan
can't stand DiCaprio...

Me either - you should see it though, you'll love the ending. :D

4HiMarks
04-16-05, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by maxman
You think you're depressed "by yourself" - try getting married.

Ah, but what if I was married to Evangeline Lily? (To bring it somewhat back on topic).

-Chris

Bill Shakespeare
04-16-05, 12:47 AM
Good Grief, how many weeks will this thread continue to degenerate.

Oh yeah, almost three weeks.

What are the odds ABC treats "Lost" like "Alias" next season? A late start with no repeats?

optivity
04-16-05, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by 4HiMarks
Ah, but what if I was married to Evangeline Lily? (To bring it somewhat back on topic).

-Chris I wonder how much it would co$t you for that privilege?Originally posted by Bill Shakespeare
Good Grief, how many weeks will this thread continue to degenerate.

Oh yeah, almost three weeks.

What are the odds ABC treats "Lost" like "Alias" next season? A late start with no repeats? I'm looking forward to the next episode of The Enforcer!

aaronwt
04-16-05, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Bill Shakespeare


What are the odds ABC treats "Lost" like "Alias" next season? A late start with no repeats?

I don't think ABC could afford to. It's ratings are too high. They need to have it on during the sweeps months of Nov, Feb, and May so they can maximize the money they get from commercials. The rates are based on the ratings during the sweeps months.

keenan
04-16-05, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by aaronwt
I don't think ABC could afford to. It's ratings are too high. They need to have it on during the sweeps months of Nov, Feb, and May so they can maximize the money they get from commercials. The rates are based on the ratings during the sweeps months.

There has been some industry noise lately about changing this decidedly viewer unfriendly process, something along the lines of tracking every episode, not just in "sweeps".

maxman
04-16-05, 05:29 PM
Why are advertisers so stupid as to tolerate this system?

aaronwt
04-16-05, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by keenan
There has been some industry noise lately about changing this decidedly viewer unfriendly process, something along the lines of tracking every episode, not just in "sweeps".

It would be nice if they had instant ratings available like in the show MAX Headroom. But I guess privacy would go out the window for that to happen.

HDTVChallenged
04-16-05, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by dmbatch
You know, I think I'm one of the few people in the world who has never seen that movie {Titanic}.

You are not alone ... but then again there are many "must see" movies that I've never seen.

4HiMarks
04-16-05, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by optivity
I wonder how much it would co$t you for that privilege?
It'd be worth it. She could probably bring a lot more into the family coffers than all of y'all's wives put together, so I'd still come out ahead on the deal.

And that's beside the way she looks in her undies. :)

-Chris

Tusk
04-18-05, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
You can only go as far in the game as they have shown on TV. This pretty much means you can get as far as finding the hatch and Rousseau's lair. You have to do things in the episode order, so you cannot get the battery until you have already gotten the eucalyptus.

It would be cool if you could finish the game, but you won't be able to do that for a couple of years and I don't feel like playing an online game that long. If you think it is a long stretch between new episodes, wait until you play the game! I actually made it to the part where you get on the raft and push out to sea. The game ends and the screen asks you if you want to play again. Whether the game will continue in the future with the raft being destroyed or you really get off the island, I'm not sure.

NorthJersey
04-18-05, 03:25 PM
mods: delete this post, it was in the wrong thread

bobby94928
04-18-05, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by NorthJersey
mods: delete this post, it was in the wrong thread

Jersey, you can delete it yourself. Just click "edit." At the top of the next screen is a "delete this post" section. check the box on the left and then click delete.

Mr.Poindexter
04-18-05, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by DrCrawn
And I do believe there will be more who will share my frustrations and boredom with this show in the future. Take for example possibly the best "intelligent" show ever made, Star Trek TNG. At the end of the hour, issues had been resolved, yet the Enterprise always moved on, deeper into space letting us know more adventures were to come. That was a great feeling. Tune in next week and all that jazz.

Sorry, but I can't agree with you on this one. ST:TNG was completely episodic. You could take 5 seasons and mix them up randomly and watch them and might only have 2 or 3 episodes that are obviously "out of order" because they have no great story arc.

Babylon 5, on the other hand, was laying groundwork for things that would transpire not just in an episode a week or two away, but years in advance. Even the pilot had foreshadowings of things that would transpire in season 2.

dmbatch
04-18-05, 08:09 PM
Sorry, I know you can get in trouble for posting spoilers, but....


[MOD EDIT] Spoiler moved to spoiler thread. ;)

Mr.Poindexter
04-18-05, 09:02 PM
Too funny!

snatch
04-18-05, 10:03 PM
lol- That was the best laugh I've had all day.

Xesdeeni
04-19-05, 12:35 PM
Pardon me for being OT:

Originally posted by CPanther95
The new vB forum software version. It's being tested now and should be uploaded within days or weeks (if there are no issues) Any chance it will improve the notification system? Specifically, I get notifications for the dozen or so threads to which I'm subscribed, that I check out during the day as I have time. When I start reading them, I automatically begin reading at the newest unread message, which is as expected. But after I've caught up on a few threads, and especially if I get interrupted and come back a bit later, when I go to other threads, I miss unread messages. It seems to assume that because I've visited AVS Forum, I have caught up on all the threads, and only the last message, or the messages that have arrived since I caught up in a different thread, are shown.

Xesdeeni

Matt L
04-19-05, 01:32 PM
I second that. Every time we look at an update to a thread all threads are updates indicating we've been in the forum when we really haven't, makes it a pain to see what's new.

Innova
04-19-05, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Xesdeeni
Pardon me for being OT:

Any chance it will improve the notification system? Specifically, I get notifications for the dozen or so threads to which I'm subscribed, that I check out during the day as I have time. When I start reading them, I automatically begin reading at the newest unread message, which is as expected. But after I've caught up on a few threads, and especially if I get interrupted and come back a bit later, when I go to other threads, I miss unread messages. It seems to assume that because I've visited AVS Forum, I have caught up on all the threads, and only the last message, or the messages that have arrived since I caught up in a different thread, are shown.

Xesdeeni

Basically the problem is that there is only one time stored; the last time you visited any page at avsforum.

In order to fix the problem, the new software would have to keep track of your last visit to each thread. I have no clue if the new version would do this or not.

Xesdeeni
04-19-05, 02:26 PM
Couldn't the thread placeholder be stored in the URL sent in the e-mail notification?

Xesdeeni

Innova
04-19-05, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Xesdeeni
Couldn't the thread placeholder be stored in the URL sent in the e-mail notification?

Xesdeeni

Yes, there are actually several ways to do it. I was just going with the way similar to how it is done now.

timick1
04-21-05, 11:17 AM
just a bump.... this thread was almost Lost (yes pun) :-)

bronowyn
04-21-05, 11:32 AM
Did anyone see if they had a preview of the "recap episode" after last night's repeat?

rdwalt
04-21-05, 11:38 AM
Yes! I saw it! Next Week!!! WHOOO HOOO!!! um... yeah.

Innova
04-21-05, 11:41 AM
Can someone recap for those of us who missed it? :)

rdwalt
04-21-05, 01:28 PM
You want a recap of the recap preview? They showed bits of previous shows. :p

The one thing I remember.... Locke said, "I looked into the eye of the island (and it showed him looking into the glowing lit window of the hatch) and it was beautiful". :D

I'll have to watch it again and report more tomorrow. :p

TrnsplantBuckeye
04-21-05, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by rdwalt
You want a recap of the recap preview? They showed bits of previous shows. :p

The one thing I remember.... Locke said, "I looked into the eye of the island (and it showed him looking into the glowing lit window of the hatch) and it was beautiful". :D

I'll have to watch it again and report more tomorrow. :p

...and as I recall the episode that Locke originally said that was not the episode that showed him looking into the glowing hatch window. :confused:

rdwalt
04-21-05, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by TrnsplantBuckeye
...and as I recall the episode that Locke originally said that was not the episode that showed him looking into the glowing hatch window. :confused:

Now why did you have to go and do that?

:p

mjburton
04-21-05, 03:17 PM
Locke also said "it was magical" in the promo that aired last fall prior to a show, and then said "it was beautiful" on the actual show aired... but now we are digging up old dirt

NorthJersey
04-21-05, 03:30 PM
remember, no spoilers for the trailer for the of the recap show! :-)

keenan
04-21-05, 03:32 PM
I think ABC is getting just a bit full of themselves. Not only do they have a re-cap/catch-up episode of Desperate Housewives, now they have one for Lost.

Come on, just air another GD episode, the neighbor I watch this with says she's about fed up with all the breaks and is starting to lose interest, I can't blame her...

scowl
04-21-05, 03:37 PM
Man, what is with J.J. Abrams and having recap shows in the first season of his shows? Alias did this in its first season too. Basically, John Locke I mean Terry O'Quinn showed up, asked what hell was going on, and Jennifer Garner just narrated a bunch of clips from previous shows.

wco81
04-21-05, 03:42 PM
Well ABC could pay the producers to make extra episodes. They're hoping these recap shows will draw enough ratings.

Fox produced like 30 episodes on the first season of the OC.

But production costs for DH and Lost are probably higher. I know the DH cast got raises and probably cars to placate them once ratings hit big. Did any of the Lost people get raises?

PJO1966
04-21-05, 03:58 PM
They have another way to keep the cast in line... anyone can be killed off at any moment...

optivity
04-21-05, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by PJO1966
They have another way to keep the cast in line... anyone can be killed off at any moment... Called an "Ensemble" where no single actor can hold an entire Production hostage.

PJO1966
04-21-05, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by optivity
Called an "Ensemble" where no single actor can hold an entire Production hostage.

... unless you're the cast of Friends...

mollerup
04-21-05, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by scowl
Man, what is with J.J. Abrams and having recap shows in the first season of his shows? Alias did this in its first season too. Basically, John Locke I mean Terry O'Quinn showed up, asked what hell was going on, and Jennifer Garner just narrated a bunch of clips from previous shows.

I guess their thought is that enough of the show's faithful will watch just to see highlights of the season and previews for the finales. Also, it will allow newbies to catch up and possibly gain interest after hearing all the "buzz" about the show. But I do wish they had just taken a week or two break with a catch up show in one of those slots as opposed to a 4 week break!!!

danc8379
04-21-05, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by scowl
Man, what is with J.J. Abrams and having recap shows in the first season of his shows? Alias did this in its first season too. Basically, John Locke I mean Terry O'Quinn showed up, asked what hell was going on, and Jennifer Garner just narrated a bunch of clips from previous shows.

I would think that for both DH and Lost they just figured that since they became big hits they've attracted more and more viewers each week. Someone who hadn't been watching from the beginning could watch that recap show and get caught up. Could help get new viewers, too. Someone who had been hesitant to start watching for fear that they wouldn't know what was going on could watch the recap show and at least have a pretty good understanding. As much as I would have rather had a new episode, I understand why they would do the recap shows for both DH and Lost.

CPanther95
04-21-05, 04:46 PM
It's a PITA, but the finale will run during sweeps week regardless. They're definitely trying to snag some cheap ratings, but it's not at the expense of airing an original episode - it's only replacing a repeat.

Not a big deal.

bronowyn
04-21-05, 11:02 PM
I think this whole sweeps thing is exactly why i watch so much food network and HBO and Showtime. They start new shows all through the season, so I don't have to be waiting for some weird sweeps thing.

I know it sounded funny that I wanted a recap of the preview of the recap show... but they always do something interesting in the previews... even if it's just a Red Herring, just like communism. (That's a movie reference, in case any one decides to start a silly conversation.)

Mr.Poindexter
04-22-05, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by bronowyn
I think this whole sweeps thing is exactly why i watch so much food network and HBO and Showtime. They start new shows all through the season, so I don't have to be waiting for some weird sweeps thing.

Yeah, you don't have to wait for sweeps, but you might have to wait a year and a half between half-seasons! Hmm, when will Sopranos be on again? Let me mark my calendar. Oh, wait! My calendar doesn't go that far into the future.

They are great when they are one show after the next, but the length between seasons seems even longer.

optivity
04-22-05, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
Yeah, you don't have to wait for sweeps, but you might have to wait a year and a half between half-seasons! Hmm, when will Sopranos be on again? Let me mark my calendar. Oh, wait! My calendar doesn't go that far into the future.

They are great when they are one show after the next, but the length between seasons seems even longer. Oh boo hoo... we'll just have to suffer with "Deadwood" for the time-being.

bronowyn
04-22-05, 12:28 PM
I don't know if I'd call that suffering.. just make sure your kids are no where near earshot.. or they'll learn some interesting words!

Anywho... Do you think it will be just a bunch of clips next wednesday, or are they going to put some kind of small plot around it? Anyone narrating the thing... maybe the actors as themselves talking about scenes... and maybe JJ Abrams, too?

I think he's done this on Alias. What did he do then?

JayDog_2
04-22-05, 12:41 PM
I've seriously Lost touch....


Damn hiatusesesesssessesss.... :)

Iteki
04-22-05, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by JayDog_2
I've seriously Lost touch....


Damn hiatusesesesssessesss.... :)

Amen...I am enjoying Deadwood, 24, and The Shield in the meantime, but I miss my LOST :-(

keenan
04-22-05, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by bronowyn
I don't know if I'd call that suffering.. just make sure your kids are no where near earshot.. or they'll learn some interesting words!

Anywho... Do you think it will be just a bunch of clips next wednesday, or are they going to put some kind of small plot around it? Anyone narrating the thing... maybe the actors as themselves talking about scenes... and maybe JJ Abrams, too?

I think he's done this on Alias. What did he do then?

I'd be interested in knowing this too. I would hate to sit through the whole thing only to find out I already knew it all. I guess that's the "beauty" of TV promotion, "tune in to find out"...I bet they give us one tidbit of new info at the 57min point of the broadcast...:p

CPanther95
04-22-05, 01:32 PM
We should take bets on whether they show the 2 Kate underwear scenes, The Jun bikini scene and the Shannon topless sunbathing scene.

I bet at least 3 of the 4 shots make it into the show Wed. - all are critical to getting new viewers up to speed. ;)

optivity
04-22-05, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by Iteki
Amen...I am enjoying Deadwood, 24, and The Shield in the meantime, but I miss my LOST :-( For a moment... I thought "Iteki" had dropped off the face of the earth... (or gone on vacation with his wife & kids) because I was looking forward to another episode of The Enforcer!

keenan
04-22-05, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by CPanther95
We should take bets on whether they show the 2 Kate underwear scenes, The Jun bikini scene and the Shannon topless sunbathing scene.

I bet at least 3 of the 4 shots make it into the show Wed. - all are critical to getting new viewers up to speed. ;)

And of course introduce Adriana Lima as one of the "other" survivors..http://www.emotipad.com/newemoticons/Dancing-Chilli.gif:D


edited to corrected Miss Lima's first name.

Iteki
04-22-05, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by optivity
For a moment... I thought "Iteki" had dropped off the face of the earth... (or gone on vacation with his wife & kids) because I was looking forward to another episode of The Enforcer!

LOL,

They are holding back Enforcer eps for Sweeps! The HUMANITY!

CPanther95
04-22-05, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by keenan
And of course introduce Adriani Lima as one of the "other" survivors.. :D

GOOD LORD! - Don't tell me Adriana has a twin sister. :eek:

keenan
04-22-05, 03:28 PM
My "i" key must have got stuck...or poked out..or something...:p

tobwco
04-22-05, 06:39 PM
Sorry to break the rules again, but here is another "spoiler" :D

Iteki
04-22-05, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by tobwco
Sorry to break the rules again, but here is another "spoiler" :D

You feel lucky...punk!?

tobwco
04-22-05, 06:52 PM
"dying ain't much of a living boy" Clint

Innova
04-22-05, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by tobwco
"dying ain't much of a living boy" Clint

Actually, that was Josey :D

UTV2TiVo
04-22-05, 07:39 PM
Josey was the character but Clint still said it! ;)

optivity
04-22-05, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by PJO1966
They have another way to keep the cast in line... anyone can be killed off at any moment... Originally posted by optivity
Called an "Ensemble" where no single actor can hold an entire Production hostage.
Originally posted by PJO1966
... unless you're the cast of Friends... Touche`

tobwco
04-22-05, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by Innova
Actually, that was Josey :D

OK here is Josey being spoken by Clint, boy. :p


http://new.wavlist.com/movies/194/ojw-bounty.wav

mollerup
04-23-05, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by bronowyn
I don't know if I'd call that suffering.. just make sure your kids are no where near earshot.. or they'll learn some interesting words!

Anywho... Do you think it will be just a bunch of clips next wednesday, or are they going to put some kind of small plot around it? Anyone narrating the thing... maybe the actors as themselves talking about scenes... and maybe JJ Abrams, too?

I think he's done this on Alias. What did he do then?

For the recap show, I think it might be cool if they had the survivors at some point in the future after they had been rescued, doing some type of documentary interviews where they are reminiscing about things that happened on the island. But I guess that would be assuming they are rescued at some point. Anyway, it would beat a plain highlights/clips recap show.

Also, I wonder if they will include the infamous radio transmission Boone heard...and clear that up with what was actually said or what they wanted to actually hear after the fact? And I wonder if it will be an unbiased recap of all the eps or if it will be biased toward a certain storyline? Guess we'll see soon!

CANNON-FODDER
04-23-05, 03:37 PM
If anyone does any reminiscing like that, I'd say it would be Boone narrating as the dead one. Just so they don't lock themselves into a solution for the future. Can't threaten to kill Locke off if his character was in the future rescue-ee reminiscence show...

v/r,
C-F

AzRich
04-23-05, 04:14 PM
Does anyone know for sure what night ABC will be showing the last show of the season? I'm trying to plan a "Lost" party at my house with friends. I recently got a 50 inch HDTV and want my friends to experience the BEST show broadcasted in HD. Will the season finale be 2 hours?

Thanks for any information that will help with my planning.

Richard

CPanther95
04-23-05, 04:21 PM
Originally posted by CPanther95
4/27 - LOST: The Journey (1 Hour Special) "Catch-up episode"
5/4 - #21 The Greater Good (Sayid)
5/11 - #22 Born to Run (Kate)
5/18 - #23 Exodus Part I
5/25 - # 24 Exodus Part II (2 Hours)

Mr.Poindexter
04-26-05, 06:11 PM
I watched the recap show of Desperate Housewives and if the Lost segment is anything like it, there will be nothing new and they will just show clips with narration. They DH show went character by character instead of show by show.

I only missed one show - House of the Rising Sun. I read the recap, but since it was only aired once there are a few things I am missing.

keenan
04-26-05, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
I watched the recap show of Desperate Housewives and if the Lost segment is anything like it, there will be nothing new and they will just show clips with narration. They DH show went character by character instead of show by show.



With DH, it seemed as if there was some additional footage that wasn't broadcast before, but nothing that added to what has already been shown as far as plot developement.

Mr.Poindexter
04-26-05, 10:28 PM
I didn't notice anything new. Is it possible that you didn't notice it the first time around because we don't totally study things like on Lost?

keenan
04-27-05, 03:22 AM
Could very well be, it just seemed as if I saw scenes that I hadn't before, but in any case, there was nothing I didn't already know.

Hoter
04-27-05, 05:45 AM
I looked back the last several pages and didn't see it indicated. Can someone let me know? Thanks

CPanther95
04-27-05, 08:06 AM
Check back 5 posts before yours.

NorthJersey
04-27-05, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by Hoter
I looked back the last several pages and didn't see it indicated. Can someone let me know? Thanks

next week

R11
04-27-05, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by AzRich
Does anyone know for sure what night ABC will be showing the last show of the season? I'm trying to plan a "Lost" party at my house with friends. I recently got a 50 inch HDTV and want my friends to experience the BEST show broadcasted in HD. Will the season finale be 2 hours?

Thanks for any information that will help with my planning.

Richard Which night will it be? It will be the night your local ABC broadcaster's DTV transmitter blows up of course :D.

ron

keenan
04-27-05, 05:51 PM
Anybody get the TV Guide for April 24-30? They included a sort of map of the island and on it mentions a few things I don't recall seeing here. I don't think they are spoilers but I won't list them just in case. Maybe someone else can take a look if they have it. It confirms a few things that were speculated on and one about Claire and the number 815. It might even be stuff that has been mentioned and I don't remember.

Unoriginal Nick
04-27-05, 08:05 PM
The recap episode isn't in HD on WABC in New York. Was is supposed to be?

Deric
04-27-05, 08:06 PM
no HD in Orlando

wasting
04-27-05, 08:07 PM
no HD in Philly

snordolio
04-27-05, 08:07 PM
In Omaha, NE it's not in HD

cobrachris
04-27-05, 08:07 PM
No HD in Oklahoma City either.

JohnA
04-27-05, 08:08 PM
No HD anywhere! This sucks. What's up.

sdf777
04-27-05, 08:10 PM
hope Alias is HD

petergaryr
04-27-05, 08:10 PM
4:3 in Jacksonville, FL

mikey p
04-27-05, 08:11 PM
Not here OTA or on the D* NYC feed either, ABC just LOST me, screw network TV!

rdwalt
04-27-05, 08:14 PM
THE JOURNEY ISN'T IN HIGH DEFINITION!?! AHHHHHHH!!!

JohnA
04-27-05, 08:14 PM
I'm outa here! No HD, no view, you suck ABC!! Not to mention replays all the time. 24 here I come!!

elocs
04-27-05, 08:15 PM
Mine looks like 4x3 HD. My ABC station multicasts their analog signal and I checked it out during a commercial. It is full screen on my widescreen tv and looks much worse than the HD channel with the black bars on the sides.

JohnA
04-27-05, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by elocs
Mine looks like 4x3 HD. My ABC station multicasts their analog signal and I checked it out during a commercial. It is full screen on my widescreen tv and looks much worse than the HD channel with the black bars on the sides.
I am in LaCrosse. If you get OTA they do not broadcast in HD only digital SD.

johnbr
04-27-05, 08:20 PM
In 4:3 on ExVu big bummer.

bluer101
04-27-05, 08:20 PM
No HD in Florida.:mad: Just got my tv and was looking forward to watch this in HD.:(

elocs
04-27-05, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by JohnA
I am in LaCrosse. If you get OTA they do not broadcast in HD only digital SD.

I didn't know that. It looks so much better than the analog ota signal or my analog Charter Cable. Then again, I am watching on a 30" widescreen set.

JohnA
04-27-05, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by elocs
I didn't know that. It looks so much better than the analog ota signal or my analog Charter Cable. Then again, I am watching on a 30" widescreen set.
It does look better but still SD. I have ExpressVU for network HD. LaCrosse is still in the stone age when it comes to digital TV. Edit - sorry ABC does do HD. It is FOX that I was thinking about.

elocs
04-27-05, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by JohnA
It does look better but still SD. I have ExpressVU for network HD. LaCrosse is still in the stone age when it comes to digital TV.

That begs the question--what do we have here that is HD?

JohnA
04-27-05, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by elocs
That begs the question--what do we have here that is HD?
See my edit above. ABC does do HD. CBS also if you can get it, I can't because of their low power. Also PBS. That's it. I was depressed that FOX is not HD with all the sporting events they now offer in HD.

sayanythingrock
04-27-05, 08:37 PM
stupid specials. just watch the episodes. this just a filler so they don't have to show an all new lost

icemannyr
04-27-05, 08:39 PM
And it's not in HD, at least on WABC-DT.

elocs
04-27-05, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by JohnA
See my edit above. ABC does do HD. CBS also if you can get it, I can't because of their low power. Also PBS. That's it. I was depressed that FOX is not HD with all the sporting events they now offer in HD.

I posted before your edit. We are probably lucky that Fox is even digital.
It looks better than their analog, but not that much better. I get CBS good and just put up a CM 4228 to get NBC out of Eau Claire. I have Voom for a couple of more days, so I have seen some very good HD channels.

JohnA
04-27-05, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by elocs
I posted before your edit. We are probably lucky that Fox is even digital.
It looks better than their analog, but not that much better. I get CBS good and just put up a CM 4228 to get NBC out of Eau Claire. I have Voom for a couple of more days, so I have seen some very good HD channels.
I live between some hills in Onalaska. Satellite is my only option for most HD. To bad about Voom.

CPanther95
04-27-05, 08:59 PM
Not to stip up the controversy again ;) but they went back to the original "inaudible" radio message again.

no1home
04-27-05, 09:01 PM
No HD in Tampa. TitanTV is usually pretty accurate as far as what's in HD and they have it marked no HD.

What's with the goofy narration??

LSpera
04-27-05, 09:01 PM
I noticed that too... was listening out of the corner of my ear from the other room. :)

Brock Samson
04-27-05, 09:12 PM
No HD anywhere and no new footage. What crap.

keenan
04-27-05, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by CPanther95
Not to stip up the controversy again ;) but they went back to the original "inaudible" radio message again.

So there is nothing new in this at all then? Cool, I won't have to watch it. Being on the west coast pays off this time....:D

ldivinag
04-27-05, 09:44 PM
POC filler show...

i think "24" did a masterful job of starting in january so they can run all the way through, the normal "end of season" date....

mollerup
04-27-05, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Brock Samson
No HD anywhere and no new footage. What crap.

They (ABC) never claimed there would be any new footage, just a recap or catch-up show. There was new narration though.

But I do agree with you on the HD part, why not provide it in the original HD widescreen?

loco
04-27-05, 09:50 PM
Does anyone know who the narrator was tonight? I know it couldn't be, but it sounded a little like Brian Cox to me. Just sounded so familiar, but I couldn't place the voice.

And I didn't think the narration was particularly effective either.

Slinky11
04-27-05, 10:17 PM
How long has it been since a new episode, over a month? geeze

Karnis
04-27-05, 10:18 PM
One thing I got out of the recap...Ehtan probably came out of the hatch. The area behind Claire was backlit pretty bright....and then Ethan climbed up. I didnt think much of it during the original showing but now it strikes me that the light was coming from the hatch.

goldrich
04-27-05, 10:36 PM
If network television continues to cut the number of "new" or "fresh" episodes of various shows, by next year all television series will be reduced to 2 or 3 "new" or "fresh" episodes for the entire season! It's really sad when the highlight of a TV promo for a network series is "new" or "fresh."

loco
04-27-05, 10:38 PM
I just found out over at Fuselage that the voiceover person WAS Brian Cox. Wow, I'm surprised they got him to do it.

Iteki
04-27-05, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by loco
Does anyone know who the narrator was tonight? I know it couldn't be, but it sounded a little like Brian Cox to me. Just sounded so familiar, but I couldn't place the voice.

And I didn't think the narration was particularly effective either.

I think it was him...the original Hannibal Lector. :-) Wasn't real keen on the voiceover either...

HiDef Bob
04-27-05, 11:15 PM
Thanks for the heads up ... I thought it was just KOMO ABC Seattle that did not have HDTV ... not even DD5.1 ... And since it is that way for the entire episode, off it goes. I refuse to watch that SDTV crap!

My motto remains ... if it is not in HDTV it is not worth watching (and it may not be worth watching in HD either!).

This is a time when large numbers of people are finally getting into HDTV ... and then some morons at ABC pull a stunt like this! At this point in the transition to HDTV there is no excuse for this.

tall1
04-27-05, 11:23 PM
I was really disappointed. I was hoping to have a cool Lost reference DVHS tape. Maybe this is exactly why they didn't make it available in HD or it was just vastly cheaper. Could it have been a glitch at ABC?

icemannyr
04-27-05, 11:35 PM
ABC did the same thing for the NYPD Blue recap, no HD.

They could have shown the segments intros, new interviews and the later season clips in HD but did not.

trbarry
04-27-05, 11:37 PM
[quote]If network television continues to cut the number of "new" or "fresh" episodes of various shows, by next year all television series will be reduced to 2 or 3 "new" or "fresh" episodes for the entire season! It's really sad when the highlight of a TV promo for a network series is "new" or "fresh."[/quote[

It is kinda both interesting and depressing to see the history of how the typical number of annual episodes has declined over the years. I was counting them recently back to 1950 or so by browsing Epguides.com (http://epguides.com/menu/year.shtml).

- Tom

Paul Bigelow
04-27-05, 11:45 PM
They better not kill off Locke.

Paul

rogo
04-28-05, 02:27 AM
I've loved this show. If Locke is killled off, I'm completely out. Won't want to know why, won't care.

I'm hoping it's a fake teaser.

keenan
04-28-05, 02:38 AM
If Locke goes, I'm gone too, he is by far the most interesting character in the show.

Bill Shakespeare
04-28-05, 02:44 AM
The trailer begins with "Next week the first of four straight new episodes!" It's as if ABC feels this is a program innovation, four weeks without a repeat.

What a concept! What a crock!

It's enough to make me wish for enough space on my Tivo to collect the whole season before I begin viewing.

And in SD? What a way to WOW new viewers!

Argee
04-28-05, 04:53 AM
"And in SD? What a way to WOW new viewers"

90% of whom do not have HD anyway.

NetworkTV
04-28-05, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by mikey p
ABC just LOST me, screw network TV! Hey..... :D

mikey p
04-28-05, 06:13 AM
"Hey....."

Sorry, the comment had nothing to do with you! Did it? ;-)

NetworkTV
04-28-05, 06:59 AM
LOL - I was just kidding. I know what you were referring to, I just liked the double meaning.

CPanther95
04-28-05, 07:30 AM
DOG PILE !!!

trbarry
04-28-05, 07:54 AM
ABC just LOST me, screw network TV!

I also turned it off when I found SDTV. But I don't remember whether audible cursing was involved.

- Tom

tobwco
04-28-05, 08:06 AM
I fell asleep in the middle of it. Boring as we all know what has happened.

Samdari
04-28-05, 08:25 AM
Just curious why everyone is bashing Lost for the number of original episodes. They have the equivalent of 26 1 hour original episodes this season, where a typical one hour drama has 24. Pretty standard stuff there.

fhall1
04-28-05, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by rogo
I've loved this show. If Locke is killled off, I'm completely out. Won't want to know why, won't care.

I'm hoping it's a fake teaser.

I didn't pay that close attention (but I'm sure we'll see the teaser 50 more times between now and next Wed.) but I think when they showed Sayid with the pistol on Locke, Locke was wearing a white, but bloodstained T-shrit in dry weather....and when you hear the gunshot and see Locke throw his arms in the air he's wearing a brown T-shrt and it's raining. Knowing how they love to misdirect us in the teasers, he could be falling to his knees in thanks because the hatch finally opened, not because he was shot.

optivity
04-28-05, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Argee
"And in SD? What a way to WOW new viewers"

90% of whom do not have HD anyway. Right. Last night's episode was a 'complete' waste of time.

mx6bfast
04-28-05, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Samdari
Just curious why everyone is bashing Lost for the number of original episodes. They have the equivalent of 26 1 hour original episodes this season, where a typical one hour drama has 24. Pretty standard stuff there.

Lost spreads out its 26 episodes over like 45 weeks (don't know the exact number). 24 spreads out it's episodes out over 23 weeks. Lost isn't new week after week, but 24 is. Besides its been a month since there was a new Lost. I have seen 4 new 24's in that time frame.

I turned it off last night when they showed the Lost title. I stopped the Tivo and then deleted the 30 minutes it had already taped. If I was a new veiwer it wouldn't have kept me interested.

CPanther95
04-28-05, 10:18 AM
LOST is not the exception - 24 and Alias are the exception. Hopefully the trend is actually changing to a somewhat year-round schedule - but it isn't uncommon for a single season to straddle Sept/Feb/May sweeps. It is also not uncommon for a season to consist of 22 or even 20 episodes.

As crappy as this episode was, it only replaced a repeat in it's slot - it didn't replace an hour of the 26 hours they are filming. No harm/no foul.

Blame the antiquated ratings system for the lack of continuity.

Iteki
04-28-05, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by CPanther95
LOST is not the exception - 24 and Alias are the exception. Hopefully the trend is actually changing to a somewhat year-round schedule - but it isn't uncommon for a single season to straddle Sept/Feb/May sweeps. It is also not uncommon for a season to consist of 22 or even 20 episodes.

As crappy as this episode was, it only replaced a repeat in it's slot - it didn't replace an hour of the 26 hours they are filming. No harm/no foul.

Blame the antiquated ratings system for the lack of continuity.

Yeah, I was more hacked off at the lack of HD than the fact that it was a useless recap episode. I looked forward to seeing the planecrash/aftermath in HD. No such luck. :-(

Then only reason I kept watching was to see what they did with the '(!*! are (*!*! survivors of flight 815" mess. And of course, they cleared absolutely nothing up lol.

Looking forward to next week's ep...count me amount those who think Locke does NOT get shot, and it's just using tricky editing one again to get us excited.

R11
04-28-05, 12:37 PM
Locke may get shot, but no way will he be killed. I knew it was going to be SD because I checked the thread shortly after 5:00 but I watched it anyway. No biggie to me as it was all previously shown anyhow. Knowing ahead of time softened the blow ;). I just decided to watch it on the treadmill where I don't have HD set up yet anyway. I was a little disappointed though because I thought I read a post here that said it was supposed to disclose a couple tidbits about the island or something? Nada...

ron

rcwalters
04-28-05, 01:06 PM
This recap just made me ask all the same questions, a little harder this time: WHY doesn't ANYONE think that finding the radio transmitter, and its power source, might be useful? Or what that cable leads to? Or go try to get some information out of Delenn for more than ten minutes? They know that Ethan wasn't on the plane--don't they care to find out where he was and if there are others? As it has been noted, we don't even know they're on an island, they haven't explored ANYTHING, really.

And outside of building the raft, in which only three people seem to care about, nobody is even discussing ANY options for getting off the island. They've been there two months now. They can't possibly think that search operations are still going on.

clash1
04-28-05, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by tobwco
I fell asleep in the middle of it. Boring as we all know what has happened.

tobwco, check your PM....

etcarroll
04-28-05, 02:20 PM
Glad I chose to watch the PBS broadcast on the Amazon rain forest with my son instead, and it WAS in HD.

bronowyn
04-28-05, 02:34 PM
Yeah, you would think that if they've been there a month and a 1/2 that they would have figured out how to survive (given people jobs and whatnot)... so some other ones could go explore... unless that was Boone's Locke's "Job"... I don't know.. doesn't seem logical that they aren't forming some sort of society.

I know, I know... It's a TV show. Sue me, I was a sociology major (and psych, too, but lets not get into that).

Paul Bigelow
04-28-05, 02:47 PM
While the other story lines are interesting, Locke has *made* this program, in my opinion. He obviously has a connection to the island and it's that connection which, to me, drives the show.

Paul

patrickpiteo
04-28-05, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Argee
"And in SD? What a way to WOW new viewers"

90% of whom do not have HD anyway. Thanks for the heads up. now I can just delete it from my saved DVR list. More room for real HD...:D

ADGrant
04-28-05, 04:25 PM
Deleted it from my DVR without watching also. Had it been in HD I might have watched it just because the show looks so good in HD. I am not in the HD only camp but I don't particularly like recap shows and I am certainly not going to watch an SD recap of an HD show.

4HiMarks
04-28-05, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by ADGrant
Deleted it from my DVR without watching also. Had it been in HD I might have watched it just because the show looks so good in HD. I am not in the HD only camp but I don't particularly like recap shows and I am certainly not going to watch an SD recap of an HD show.

It doesn't make any sense to me either. They already have the HD footage, and everyone just raves about how great the show looks in HD. I would think they want to attract whatever remaining segment of the HD-enabled viewing audience they don't have yet, or even stimulate some people with HD-ready TVs to subscribe to HD services just so they can watch Lost. But they blew it.

-Chris

Mr.Poindexter
04-28-05, 06:27 PM
I don't even recall now if the Desperate Housewives catch-up episode was in HD, but I think it was.

They did have a preview for the new show that included a little bit more, like Shannon asking Sayid to do something about Locke killing her brother and then Sayid telling Locke to take him to the hatch.

Mr.Poindexter
04-28-05, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by rcwalters
This recap just made me ask all the same questions, a little harder this time: WHY doesn't ANYONE think that finding the radio transmitter, and its power source, might be useful? Or what that cable leads to? Or go try to get some information out of Delenn for more than ten minutes? They know that Ethan wasn't on the plane--don't they care to find out where he was and if there are others? As it has been noted, we don't even know they're on an island, they haven't explored ANYTHING, really.

And outside of building the raft, in which only three people seem to care about, nobody is even discussing ANY options for getting off the island. They've been there two months now. They can't possibly think that search operations are still going on.

Finding the Radio transmitter will allow them to change the message. If the current distress call lasted 16 years and no help has come, will a message update help? Maybe they can broadcast their distress call on Voom starting May 2nd.

They did check out where the cable lead to. Hurley found it and followed it to get to Delenn's secret Minbari Ranger listening post.

Since Ethan is dead and Rousseau is pretty scary to the others (who may know she was able to capture and torture a strong man with military background and training) and has a rifle and explosives and booby-traps, I don't see much liklihood of all the Type B personalities that survived the crash making the trek.

The first season should encompass 40 days, which means they have been there for about 32 days, give or take. Perhaps it may have taken a week for them to accept the realization that nobody is coming for them and most don't realize there isn't any hope for rescue from passing ships and such until now, if even that.

For the way all you guys here talk about Kate, Sun and Shannon, I think half of you would take the guns, kill Sawyer, Jack and the other men, burn down the boat and start your own harem. And at the same time you are surprised they aren't all going crazy to get off the island. A minimum of 2 people, Walt and Locke, actually enjoy being on the island.

fhall1
04-28-05, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by ADGrant
Deleted it from my DVR without watching also. Had it been in HD I might have watched it just because the show looks so good in HD. I am not in the HD only camp but I don't particularly like recap shows and I am certainly not going to watch an SD recap of an HD show.

And....only one shot of Shannon in a bikini and none of Kate in her underwear

Joxer
04-29-05, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by Mr.Poindexter
I don't even recall now if the Desperate Housewives catch-up episode was in HD, but I think it was.


Yes that one was in HD and actually had more than just clips.

Mr.Poindexter
04-29-05, 11:06 AM
I didn't see anything new in the Desperate Housewives recap. They did have more time per character than the Lost recap, but then again, Lost has a larger cast and so less screen time per person.

optivity
04-29-05, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by Iteki
Yeah, I was more hacked off at the lack of HD than the fact that it was a useless recap episode. I looked forward to seeing the planecrash/aftermath in HD. No such luck. :-(

Then only reason I kept watching was to see what they did with the '(!*! are (*!*! survivors of flight 815" mess. And of course, they cleared absolutely nothing up lol.

Looking forward to next week's ep...count me amount those who think Locke does NOT get shot, and it's just using tricky editing one again to get us excited. I know. I wish I had watched an episode of The Enforcer instead!

JayDog_2
04-29-05, 05:14 PM
OKay... I'm back... :)


So, I did watch the non-HD filler Journey episode... although not too sure why.

One thing with regards to the ever popular radio message debate - Even though the first word is garbled, based on the inflections of the voice, I am feeling it has to be "We're the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815!"

When you say the phrase to yourself, it sounds natural with the inflections that were used in the radio message... any other possibility does not sound natural.

IMO.


So this kinda confirms my belief that the other half of the plane (which included the black lady's husband) landed on another part of the island... with survivors.
And we remember that the black lady believes her husband is still alive, right?

Blaurv
04-29-05, 05:29 PM
I can't remember if it's been mentioned before, but with closed captions on, the message says "there were no survivors of Oceanic Flight 815."

I know captions are often wrong, but that's what I thought I heard too from the original run.

CPanther95
04-29-05, 05:37 PM
It was the original radio message with the original CC. There is another "official" version out there however.

JayDog_2
04-29-05, 05:49 PM
Well, I guess we'll just have to let this debate rest until further information is made available...


But, again.. :)
The garbled part of the message seems to be no more than one word followed by what sounds like "the" and then the rest "survivors of blah blah blah"

but I think we've debated this one into the ground already... ;)

PJO1966
04-29-05, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by JayDog_2
Well, I guess we'll just have to let this debate rest until further information is made available...


But, again.. :)
The garbled part of the message seems to be no more than one word followed by what sounds like "the" and then the rest "survivors of blah blah blah"

but I think we've debated this one into the ground already... ;)


But but but I clearly heard...


:D

tobwco
04-29-05, 11:00 PM
20/20 on set of Lost for next Fridays show. Just saw the promo on 20/20

archiguy
04-30-05, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by CPanther95
It was the original radio message with the original CC. There is another "official" version out there however.

This is starting to look more and more like we've been "played" on this radio thing. Why re-air the "original" version when they've already put out another version that goes in a completely different direction?

Somebody at ABC is having a lot of fun with this, is all I'm sayin'.

auburn97
05-02-05, 09:38 AM
bump (almost fell off forum pages)

dmbatch
05-02-05, 09:54 AM
I'm sure it will get very active on Wednesday night.

Mr.Poindexter
05-03-05, 11:30 AM
I do think that ABC and JJA might be purposely running different audio clips to keep us discussing and interested until the next episode. Having a buzz about your show certainly helps the ratings.

CPanther95
05-03-05, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by archiguy
This is starting to look more and more like we've been "played" on this radio thing. Why re-air the "original" version when they've already put out another version that goes in a completely different direction?

Somebody at ABC is having a lot of fun with this, is all I'm sayin'.

I think you're right.

Did Boone say anything about the radio contact to Jack before he died?

Mr.Poindexter
05-03-05, 12:49 PM
No, he didn't mention the radio. He mentioned the hatch, though.

CPanther95
05-03-05, 12:54 PM
Wouldn't it make a hell of a lot more sense to mention the successful radio communication?

IrmoGamecoq
05-03-05, 01:26 PM
He didn't voluntarily mention anything really, he was just answering Jack's questions (about what happened to him). Since Jack's questions didn't meander in the direction of a radio communication, he didn't have the opportunity to discuss it.

I think he was still in shock too much to think about disclosing details of anything, really.

keenan
05-03-05, 04:01 PM
I thought Boone said something about a plane....

Iteki
05-03-05, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by keenan
I thought Boone said something about a plane....

He said the plane fell...and that Locke said not to tell anyone about the Hatch. (If I remember correctly)

Paul Bigelow
05-03-05, 04:17 PM
Jorge Garcia (Hurley) was seen on the "Tonight Show" last night. No secrets revealed. As he said, "didn't want to be on a dangerous hike first show of the next season".

Paul

tobwco
05-04-05, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Paul Bigelow
Jorge Garcia (Hurley) was seen on the "Tonight Show" last night. No secrets revealed. As he said, "didn't want to be on a dangerous hike first show of the next season".

Paul

Maybe a search for the radio tower??

Paul Bigelow
05-04-05, 11:56 AM
I think he was more concerned about not prompting his own character's demise. Loose wordies sink Hurleys. ;)

Tonight's the night -- finally!

Paul

optivity
05-04-05, 02:18 PM
Not to "rub it in.... ladies" but I'll be watching Lost on my brand new 50" Panasonic HD PDP tonight!!! :D

Now, if only there could be a 'Kate in her underwear' scene.... ;)

Oh, the humanity....

Innova
05-04-05, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by optivity
Not to "rub it in.... ladies" but I'll be watching Lost on my brand new 50" Panasonic HD PDP tonight!!! :D

Oh, you measure your screen size in inches? How cute!

;)

CPanther95
05-04-05, 02:24 PM
Congrats optivity - a new display is always cause for celebration. :)

keenan
05-04-05, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by Innova
Oh, you measure your screen size in inches? How cute!

;)

I'll be watching it on my new 6'1" Mits.....:p

optivity
05-04-05, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by Innova
Oh, you measure your screen size in inches? How cute!

;) Damn you....:p

Paul Bigelow
05-04-05, 05:10 PM
Now we get to see whether or not Locke gets plugged! (they better not)

Paul

CPanther95
05-04-05, 05:13 PM
Were those "next week" or "upcoming episode" scenes?

keenan
05-04-05, 05:26 PM
There's a short video clip of when Locke returns to the beach during what looks to be Boone's funeral at the ABC-Lost site. No spoilers in it.

ftboomer
05-04-05, 08:08 PM
Heck of a lot of new people at the funeral, but where is the black woman?

tobwco
05-04-05, 08:54 PM
so Locke did get shot :-)

Enigma
05-04-05, 09:03 PM
Wow, that was an excellent episode; seemed to move much quicker than some of the other more recent ones; then again, it seems like forever since I saw the last episode, so maybe that's why enjoyed it so much :) .

sbddvm
05-04-05, 09:08 PM
Had tons of video/audio breakup. Comcast Ft. Lauderdale

CPanther95
05-04-05, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by tobwco
so Locke did get shot :-)

Obviously, a separate take was shot for use in the previews.

Deric
05-04-05, 09:13 PM
it seemed there was more light in the previews.. maybe that happens later. I don't get it. Kate said "you didn't let her kill Locke" or something like that, but Locke looked very alive to me. Did the bullet miss him? They made it look like it hit his chest, but he was in no pain or anything.

sdf777
05-04-05, 09:13 PM
Good back story about Sayid. Hope he dumps that crazy ....

Deric
05-04-05, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by CPanther95
Obviously, a separate take was shot for use in the previews.

my video snapped and audio popped like twice over the whole episode in orlando. only lasted for a second each time

tobwco
05-04-05, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by Deric
it seemed there was more light in the previews.. maybe that happens later. I don't get it. Kate said "you didn't let her kill Locke" or something like that, but Locke looked very alive to me. Did the bullet miss him? They made it look like it hit his chest, but he was in no pain or anything.

The bullet grazed his left forehead. Small chunk of skin missing.