That's it!!

And with a dogs incredible sense of smell, he knooooows their dead. :D :D

On a serious note, maybe that's why he's staying away from the beach, there has to be a fair amount of corpses starting to get ripe in that environment.

Jim

I think you're on to something here; makes sense - congratulations if you're correct!

If the dog is like any real dog, he would be in there rolling around in all the carnage. Dogs love disgusting stuff.

Originally posted by wmccullough
If the dog is like any real dog, he would be in there rolling around in all the carnage. Dogs love disgusting stuff. hmmm...even trained Police K9 dogs who are fearless will run away from a corpse.

Tonight's episode is called "Tabula Rasa"

Definition:
1a. The mind before it receives the impressions gained from experience
1b. The unformed, featureless mind in the philosophy of John Locke
2. A need or an opportunity to start from the beginning
Also often referred to as "a blank state"

Interesting...

Originally posted by wmccullough
If the dog is like any real dog, he would be in there rolling around in all the carnage. Dogs love disgusting stuff.


.....or stealing food.

Originally posted by Darin
Is anyone else experiencing very low surround levels?


I only use 5.1 DD, no rear center or sides. That said, "Lost" lights up my surrounds AND sub to an astounding degree. I love it.

Most surround info I have ever noticed on non-sports OTA programming.

Originally posted by Flyer1
Tonight's episode is called "Tabula Rasa"

Definition:
1a. The mind before it receives the impressions gained from experience
1b. The unformed, featureless mind in the philosophy of John Locke
2. A need or an opportunity to start from the beginning
Also often referred to as "a blank state"

Interesting...
That is supposed to be "blank slate". And in the context of what is happening on this show, that is the definition that probably applies.

Mickey

Originally posted by MickeyGee
That is supposed to be "blank slate". And in the context of what is happening on this show, that is the definition that probably applies.

Mickey

I assume that you mean a blank slate when it comes to Kate's past "crimes", whatever they may be?

Jeff

Has anyone asked why the dog is maintaining it's distance from the people? Why wouldn't it just run out to where they are at? I think the dog senses something peculiar about them...

Jim

The whole plot will be reminiscent of "The Sixth Sense" if this is the case. Could this be the direction it's going?

if they are all truly dead, then what's with the polar bear killing them again? What about the message they heard, just more dead people that don't know they're dead? Although an interesting idea I don't think that is the way this is going. I think it will be some sort of secret research facility. But at this point it could really go any direction, that's why I'm so interested in the show - I wanna see where they take it!

I have a business function that I must attend tonight, so I will have to Tivo it and watch it after. I'll be sure not to check this thread before I watch the episode!!

I think I need to stop reading this thread. I really don't want to know what's coming and some of these theories are sounding plausible.

Originally posted by spiff72
I assume that you mean a blank slate when it comes to Kate's past "crimes", whatever they may be?

Jeff
I was thinking about Kate, but it could apply to other characters as well.

Mickey

Originally posted by PJO1966
I think I need to stop reading this thread. I really don't want to know what's coming and some of these theories are sounding plausible.

Maybe we should start a new thread for all of the speculation, and leave this thread for comments about the show, what has already happened, drooling over Kate, etc.

There's only so much you can talk about the technical aspects of the show, and I think everyone's already gushed over how good the picture and sound is (at least for those of you who get ABC HD over-the-air... bastards) Every other thread about a show ends up talking about the characters and plot, so this isn't any different... Might as well keep it all one thread

Lots of good theories.... some pretty far out there, some may be closer to what's going to happen...

I guess if the writers are as good as it appears they are, then we will ALL be wrong, and the explaination will be something totally unexpected...

Right now I don't think there is enough hard info to really have an explanation... just a bunch of misc clues and whatnot... how does it all fit together? I wonder how much more they'll give away tonight, or if it will mainly focus on the 'Kate' story/history....

Only hours will tell... :)

What I can't believe is that it's still a secret! Surely, someone involved with the production must know and the beans will get spilled eventually. But if they do, I would hope that nobody on here mentions it! I want to be surprised.

I like this thread and it has never detracted from my enjoyment when I read spoilers, I even seek them out. But with the being said, posters should use the spoiler posting rules more liberally for those who don't want to read about the "dog theory", "comic book theory" etc. I realize they are just speculation but for folks who often miss important plot points due to "Kate fixation", they would rather be surprised.

I'm just curious about the guy with the knives... if I recall my history correctly, wasn't there a secret society called the Tabula Rasa at one point also? Probably off base on that one, but it did stick out. The guy seems to be into some eastern mysticism either way.

Originally posted by tall1
hmmm...even trained Police K9 dogs who are fearless will run away from a corpse.

Don't know about police dogs, but that's my experience with many dogs over the years, they aren't interested in anything dead. Now, a piece of meat is a different story...

Jim

Originally posted by Flyer1
if they are all truly dead, then what's with the polar bear killing them again?

I don't think it's been determined the polar bear killed anybody. It looked like he was going to, but who knows, he might have just wanted to ask cigarette man for a light. :p

Jim

Originally posted by keenan
Don't know about police dogs, but that's my experience with many dogs over the years, they aren't interested in anything dead. Now, a piece of meat is a different story...

Jim I agree...my point is that dogs are frightened by dead humans.

Originally posted by tall1
I agree...my point is that dogs are frightened by dead humans.

Yup, and a lot of the live ones too. :D

Jim

Wait... the 'Cigarrete smoking man' was from x-files, right?


(I know, different actor...)

And yes, there is NO evidence that the polar bear did anything to anyone on the island, other than charge towards the group and get shot. There is nothing that shows the Polar Bear killed the pilot... (seems pretty doubtful IMO) There is also nothing that indicates the polar bear was knocking over the palm trees.... I'm guessing that the polar bear is one of several creatures that have gone rampant on this island....

Would a Polar Bear have put the dead pilot up so high?

This is one big zoo -- kidnapped by aliens and dumped onto this "island" with other aliens and species.

The intrigue continues tonight.

Originally posted by JayDog_2


And yes, there is NO evidence that the polar bear did anything to anyone on the island, other than charge towards the group and get shot. There is nothing that shows the Polar Bear killed the pilot... (seems pretty doubtful IMO) There is also nothing that indicates the polar bear was knocking over the palm trees.... I'm guessing that the polar bear is one of several creatures that have gone rampant on this island....

I was thinking that the polar bear they shot was the baby. Mommy's going to be mad.

First of all, speculation and theories are just that. They are not spoilers so what would be the point in "hiding" them too? In fact, the only thing I think should be hidden are real spoilers from upcoming, unaired episodes that people might dig up. To me, with a TV show that's already aired, it's no longer a spoiler. If you haven't seen an episode yet, you shouldn't be reading the thread discussing the show until you do. If you decide to time shift it, it becomes your responsibility to avoid "spoilage". Why detract from everyone else's fun by making them discuss things in a veiled manner? But that's just me....

Moving off the soapbox now, as far as the name of tonights' episode goes I'm thinking it may end up applying to all the survivors. My guess is that maybe they come to an agreement that because of the extreme circumstances, everybody gets a clean slate to increase the groups chances to survive being LOST.

ron

I was thinking that the pilot was battered but not eaten. Whatever did it was big and angry but probably not carnivorous, a palm tree busting elephant mistreated by circus folk maybe. The animals on this island seem pretty unfriendly.

Originally posted by greywolf
I was thinking that the pilot was battered but not eaten. Whatever did it was big and angry but probably not carnivorous, a palm tree busting elephant mistreated by circus folk maybe. The animals on this island seem pretty unfriendly.

maybe the creature who took the pilot out of the cockpit turns out to be Rosie O'Donnell...

And the sounds coming from this mysterious creature... a freakish, wolf-like howl.... the grunting and knashing.... One of them said that the sound was 'familiar'....

Originally posted by greywolf
The animals on this island seem pretty unfriendly.

Maybe they learned from experience 16 yrs ago....

Jim

Originally posted by R11
First of all, speculation and theories are just that. They are not spoilers so what would be the point in "hiding" them too? In fact, the only thing I think should be hidden are real spoilers from upcoming, unaired episodes that people might dig up. To me, with a TV show that's already aired, it's no longer a spoiler. If you haven't seen an episode yet, you shouldn't be reading the thread discussing the show until you do. If you decide to time shift it, it becomes your responsibility to avoid "spoilage". Why detract from everyone else's fun by making them discuss things in a veiled manner? But that's just me....ron

I agree completely.

Not to throw a wet blanket on the vivid imaginations here, but now that this show is a hit there may be some pressure by the network to not resolve too many of the show’s mysteries in the upcoming episodes. My guess is that they will now try to build toward a blockbuster season finale that ends with the typical TV series cliffhanger. If that is true, the story line may plod along from here, filled only with small conflicts between the survivors, and the occasional cage rattling by the island’s other inhabitants.

Mickey

Originally posted by R11
First of all, speculation and theories are just that. They are not spoilers so what would be the point in "hiding" them too?

right. My thinking exactly.

Originally posted by greywolf
I was thinking that the pilot was battered but not eaten. Whatever did it was big and angry but probably not carnivorous, a palm tree busting elephant mistreated by circus folk maybe. The animals on this island seem pretty unfriendly.

Which animals? I mean, besides the Polar Bear?

Well, the polar bear is obviously not what killed the pilot. At the point in time when he was snatched out of the cockpit, the nose of the plane was at least 30ft up. And IIRC, he was lifted UP out of the cockpit, as if whatever creature it was was quite tall and actually reaching down to get him. Personally, I don't think the polar bear is even related to whatever that was.

Darin:

I don't think the monster is polar bear fimily either. Whatever it is...it seems as though it can't be seen. Watching those trees fall...as if being trampled..and nothing visual to see other than the trees falling.

And as the three ran from the cockpit...the "thing" chasing them, yet they/we saw nothing.

Preditor?
Ghost?
Alien?

Originally posted by JayDog_2
And the sounds coming from this mysterious creature... a freakish, wolf-like howl.... the grunting and knashing.... One of them said that the sound was 'familiar'.... It probably was Hurley taking a dump.

Originally posted by MyGrain
And as the three ran from the cockpit...the "thing" chasing them, yet they/we saw nothing.

Preditor?
Ghost?
Alien?
Heh, I hadn't really looked at it from the perspective of it being something that can't be seen. I just assume that it hasn't been seen because they aren't ready to reveal it yet (for obvious reasons). While I really like the show, somehow I kind of fear that it could get really cheesy really fast if/when we get full visuals of it. That's probably a card they won't even play until the show reaches its end of life.

Leave 'em wanting more. If we see the monster (or whatever) the show has "jumped the shark".

Maybe the show is more like Forbidden Planet.

"jumped the shark"

where the heck does this phrase come from anyway?

Happy Days. Read more at JumpTheShark.com (http://www.jumptheshark.com/).

Originally posted by Darin
While I really like the show, somehow I kind of fear that it could get really cheesy really fast if/when we get full visuals of it.

This is what I'm afraid of also, I like science fiction as well as the next person, but I like it grounded in science fact as much as possible, a mutation of a recognizable animal yes, a dinosaur no.

We'll see, or not.. :p

Jim

Perhaps it's an island that, similar to the Galapagos, was isolated such that strange and unusual evolutionary adaptations took place that resulted in a bunch of strange (and large) critters not known elsewhere. Maybe even dinosaurs survived there, but that wouldn't explain why 'Weiss' was merely killed and not eaten. And big predators need big prey - in a roughly 13 to 1 ratio.

Originally posted by MyGrain
Darin:

I don't think the monster is polar bear fimily either. Whatever it is...it seems as though it can't be seen. Watching those trees fall...as if being trampled..and nothing visual to see other than the trees falling.

And as the three ran from the cockpit...the "thing" chasing them, yet they/we saw nothing.

Preditor?
Ghost?
Alien?

I was wondering about this too. In their first encounter with it, they were all standing on the beach at night and the thing was about 100 feet away smashing down trees. The next day, in broad daylight, nobody even bothered to look where it was, and what happened to the trees?

Is it 8 o'clock yet?!?


No?
Damn....

Also, yeah, I agree with whoever said we may get fewer clues over the next few episodes... Tonights episode sure does seem to revolve around the 'Kate' story... but they'll probably still throw in a little teaser now and then to keep us intrigued with the unknown..

Another possiblity is that the "creature" is not an animal but a large machine, controlled by a human. That could explain the strange noises. It could also explain why the pilot was killed but not eaten.

Yeah, I threw that idea out here awhile back... :)

Like "Dr. No" :)

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Yeah, I threw that idea out here awhile back... :)

Like "Dr. No" :)

sorry. After 28 pages of theories, I had forgotten.

Originally posted by scolumbo
Another possiblity is that the "creature" is not an animal but a large machine, controlled by a human. That could explain the strange noises. It could also explain why the pilot was killed but not eaten.

Except for the growling, the other noises are similar to the sounds of a subway in NY. So everyone is scared of an invisible killer subway car?!?!:D

I was thinking of it as more like a large, angry, but invisible steam shovel.
;)

- Tom

Damn, Kate looks GREAT in these flashbacks!

Originally posted by spiff72
Damn, Kate looks GREAT in these flashbacks!

I wouldn't mind seeing more of the shallow blond, either!

Well, there goes the "Sixth Sense" idea. The dog is fine with people.

Ever notice how the only people who smoke on TV these days are the "bad guys" (Becker excepted)?

Well, after the first "normal" (non-pilot) episode it still has my attention as much as ever. The PQ is absolutely stunning (once again).

Love the show, hate the commercial breaks at 5 min intervals. What gives with ABC. I liked the song they were playing near the end of tonights show, anyone know it's name?

I posted this last week. My only complaint is that the episodes go by too fast. Of course, it's great to have a TV show that is that engrossing and I'll sure be back next week and next week, etc. Each week you learn more about the characters but each episode raises even more questions. Great show--just hope the momentum continues and the quality of writing, production, etc. we have seen so far makes me believe it will.

Maybe the doc doesn't want to know what Kate did, but I do.

Also, I'm really starting to like Locke. O'Quinn always plays strange characters.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Commercial breaks seemed extremely frequent - have to check the Tivo to see if it was real or perceived. It was real. Average interval was on the order of 7 minutes or so (I was watching), until maybe the last segment. They crammed so many commercials in this one, it ran past 9:00pm by a minute or so. Better start padding the TiVo SP!

Should we really discuss the show since not everyone has seen it yet tonite

Originally posted by dmbatch
Maybe the doc doesn't want to know what Kate did, but I do. Me, too.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Commercial breaks seemed extremely frequent - have to check the Tivo to see if it was real or perceived.

Less in the first half hour this week, anyway.

Originally posted by shades
Should we really discuss the show since not everyone has seen it yet tonite

Isn't that what this thread is for???

What did I miss in the opening sequence (if there was one)? I missed the first 5 minutes or so.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Commercial breaks seemed extremely frequent - have to check the Tivo to see if it was real or perceived.

fyi, these are the normal commercial breaks...the 1st part of the pilot had abnormal breaks because they wanted to suck viewers in with the crash sequence

every 5-10 min breaks are standard these days..nothing surprising here folks

Alias goes the same way..season premier usually goes 20 mins for the opening part and then commercial o rama..and then subsequent eps are like Lost was today

Discussion of the show isn't a problem. West Coasters should not view the "LOST" thread after 8pm EST if they don't want spoilers.

HOWEVER, posting a new thread with a spoiler in the title is a problem. When I was watching Deadwood on HBO-W because of a conflict Eastern time - I just didn't open up the Deadwood thread until after I viewed it. One week, someone posted a new thread titled Wild Bill Killed !! right after the East Coast showing was complete.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Discussion of the show isn't a problem. West Coasters should not view the "LOST" thread after 8pm EST if they don't want spoilers.



I'll remember this, when the earth starts to rotate in the opposite direction then you guys will have to wait. :D

Jim

Originally posted by maxman
I wouldn't mind seeing more of the shallow blond, either!

Agreed

dammit! my myhd mdp-120 didn't record episode 3 tonight. i have episodes 1 & 2 recorded in .tp format. would anybody be willing to make a trade? i want to watch the episode the way it was meant to be watched, in hd & dd 5.1. please pm me if you're interested in swapping episodes. thanks.

I didn't find this weeks episode that interesting. There were a lot of flashbacks that did not reveal what Kate did. Is this what is going to happen each week? Are they going to show flashbacks for a different character each week?

The preview for ther episode next week looks really good but they could just be showing the good parts.

Originally posted by Mike4HDTV
I didn't find this weeks episode that interesting. There were a lot of flashbacks that did not reveal what Kate did. Is this what is going to happen each week? Are they going to show flashbacks for a different character each week?

The preview for ther episode next week looks really good but they could just be showing the good parts.

I agree that the Kate flashback scenes were a little dull, except for that gorgeous face.

I thought this week's episode was kinda slow

I agree that the Kate flashback scenes were a little dull, except for that gorgeous face.

I certainly won't dispute the gorgeous part but I thought the Kate flashbacks fit in well, gradually filling the details we need. I think this is very well written and carefully paced. (Except for the ABC commercial policy and my PVR deals with that.)

- Tom

This week's episode was dedicated to 'character building' and it was Kate's turn. Nice change of pace, IMHO. This series PQ is breathtaking.

There seems to definitely be something going on with what Walt (or possibly his Dad) is thinking having some control over what happens on the island. Unless the rain stopping when it did was a big coincidence, I see a trend developing. I am somewhat reminded of that old "Twilight Zone" episode where the kid made all the adults watch cartoons and had strange powers.

So do you guys think Jack finished that guy off or did he just die? Also did anything happen as the bald guy was smiling after the kid got his dog back? My HD Tivo cut it there.

Originally posted by labmansid
There seems to definitely be something going on with what Walt (or possibly his Dad) is thinking having some control over what happens on the island. Unless the rain stopping when it did was a big coincidence, I see a trend developing. ....

That's the theory I agree with. Maybe when they do a Walt flashback we will start to understand what is really going on here.

Originally posted by Kamakzie
So do you guys think Jack finished that guy off or did he just die? Also did anything happen as the bald guy was smiling after the kid got his dog back? My HD Tivo cut it there.

He definitely finished him off.

That was the end.

Have they actually showed the old bald dude in a clip on the plane yet? I can't recall one at all.

I'm not quite convinced yet that he wasn't already on the island....

but I could have missed something - I just started watching on Saturday.

Sid, how about a spoiler alert there? Remember the whole backgammon thing? Black and white? Maybe it's a game of some sort.

Originally posted by keenan
Don't know about police dogs, but that's my experience with many dogs over the years, they aren't interested in anything dead. Now, a piece of meat is a different story...

Jim

I don't know how they act around dead people but every dog I had while going up just HAD to roll around on anything they found that was dead. Anyway, why would the dog survive the crash if all the people were dead? The dog finally going to them doesn't destroy the theory that they are dead. The Doc. did say something about being dead tonight.

Originally posted by hypokondriak
Have they actually showed the old bald dude in a clip on the plane yet? I can't recall one at all.

I'm not quite convinced yet that he wasn't already on the island....

but I could have missed something - I just started watching on Saturday.

I was wondering the same thing. I haven't seen him on it yet. In one of the clips for next week they showed him seemingly afraid of something coming out of the bushes but that might just be them trying to keep us off balance.

I'm really enjoying the show but if they come out with some Stay Puft marshmallow man type of monster I'm going to lose it.

Ok, for all you Kate worshippers aka Evangeline Lilly, she has really done nothing before Lost. I was poking around on IMDB and found this commercial she allegedly made for Live Links. (http://www.livelinks.com/whatis/commercial/index.html) I think it is her. My wife is beginning to worry ;)

Originally posted by hypokondriak
Have they actually showed the old bald dude in a clip on the plane yet? I can't recall one at all.

I'm not quite convinced yet that he wasn't already on the island....

but I could have missed something - I just started watching on Saturday. In the very first flashback of ep 1, he's sitting right behind the lady whose husband is in the can.

Sure looks like her, I think it's her.


Originally posted by tall1
Ok, for all you Kate worshippers aka Evangeline Lilly, she has really done nothing before Lost. I was poking around on IMDB and found this commercial she allegedly made for Live Links. (http://www.livelinks.com/whatis/commercial/index.html) I think it is her. My wife is beginning to worry ;)

That looks and sounds like her!

Originally posted by labmansid
There seems to definitely be something going on with what Walt (or possibly his Dad) is thinking having some control over what happens on the island. Unless the rain stopping when it did was a big coincidence, I see a trend developing. I am somewhat reminded of that old "Twilight Zone" episode where the kid made all the adults watch cartoons and had strange powers.

I had that same thought when the rain stopped right after it was said. I did see that "Twilight Zone" episode and thought it was great!

Anyway, overall I thought it was a little slow, but I guess they are building the background of the characters. I would still like to knowwhat kate did! I'm guessing she killed someone, maybe someone she loved that tried to hurt her and it was in self defense, but she was still found guilty because no one beleived her.

A few questions:

1) when kate was in the tent talking to the marshal she said, "in case you hadn't noticed I did get away" , then the marhal says "yeah like....." - what was the rest of his sentence? Kate seemed upset at whatever it was. No matter how many times I backed it up I could not understand it!
2) when they were playing the song at the end and showing all the different characters, my tivo stopped recording right when they showed the father and son with the dog and the bald guy was sitting there. Did anything significant happen after that? I guess I need to pad the Tivo by a minute or two.
3) what was the title of that song?

Originally posted by tall1
Ok, for all you Kate worshippers aka Evangeline Lilly, she has really done nothing before Lost. I was poking around on IMDB and found this commercial she allegedly made for Live Links. (http://www.livelinks.com/whatis/commercial/index.html) I think it is her. My wife is beginning to worry ;)

oh yeah, that's her. I'm calling that number right now!

I think it is safe to assume she won't be killed off ever, and yeah it is slow a bit but they are starnded on a insalnd, what really can they make them do , thats why i think the show has a short lifespan

For whoever was asking about what happened while the bald guy was watching the kid get his dog back........ I can assure you he was not smiling. Not only that but this creepy kinda music started playing just as you saw his face.

Here are some of me theories (dont read if you dont wanna know:




The whole imagination theory is really starting to look more plausible. Walt's dad saying he'll look for the dog when the rain stops..... bam....... and then when hes walking in the jungle he mumbles "damn haunted jungle" or something like that and bammo he starts hearing noises in the bush.

Also with the whole Kate thing...... it seems to me that she was involved with the Marshal that was transporting her. In fact I am thinking maybe the reason she was going to jail was because of something he did (i.e. framed her or something). It would bring a whole new meaning to their conversation before the crash where he says (not verbatim) "Maybe they'll believe your story, I know I do."

Also up until someone pointed out that the bald guy was on the plane I had a theory going that maybe he was the one experimenting with the animals and he has some sorta control over them (as the sneak peek for next episode almost looked like). However if he was on the plane I guess thats out the window........ unless he caused the crash so they would land on that island but thats a little too ridiculous.

Coulda sworn I had another...... oh well....... thats all for now heh.

Originally posted by Flyer1


A few questions:

1) when kate was in the tent talking to the marshal she said, "in case you hadn't noticed I did get away" , then the marhal says "yeah like....." - what was the rest of his sentence? Kate seemed upset at whatever it was. No matter how many times I backed it up I could not understand it!
2) when they were playing the song at the end and showing all the different characters, my tivo stopped recording right when they showed the father and son with the dog and the bald guy was sitting there. Did anything significant happen after that? I guess I need to pad the Tivo by a minute or two.
3) what was the title of that song?

1) He said "You dont look free to me"

2) See my above post...... thats where it ends

3) sorry dont know

Originally posted by Flyer1

A few questions:

1) when kate was in the tent talking to the marshal she said, "in case you hadn't noticed I did get away" , then the marhal says "yeah like....." - what was the rest of his sentence? Kate seemed upset at whatever it was. No matter how many times I backed it up I could not understand it!
He said, "You don't look free to me."
2) when they were playing the song at the end and showing all the different characters, my tivo stopped recording right when they showed the father and son with the dog and the bald guy was sitting there. Did anything significant happen after that?They ended with the song fading out and some ominous, dissonant music on a closeup of the bald guy's face.
3) what was the title of that song? Don't know that one, sorry.

Originally posted by tall1
Ok, for all you Kate worshippers aka Evangeline Lilly, she has really done nothing before Lost. I was poking around on IMDB and found this commercial she allegedly made for Live Links. (http://www.livelinks.com/whatis/commercial/index.html) I think it is her. My wife is beginning to worry ;)


Here is a website for her , http://www.evangeline-lilly.net/

Had to do it.

http://www.evangeline-lilly.net/gallery/albums/17/normal_pilotpart2-110.jpg

How many episodes are there supposed to be? i thought someone said only 13?

Originally posted by tall1
Ok, for all you Kate worshippers aka Evangeline Lilly, she has really done nothing before Lost. I was poking around on IMDB and found this commercial she allegedly made for Live Links. (http://www.livelinks.com/whatis/commercial/index.html) Straying more and more off-topic, I just saw this ad during the Late Late Show on CBS. Very strange...

Originally posted by Flyer1


A few questions:

...3) what was the title of that song?

"Wash Away" by Joe Purdy.

http://www.joepurdy.com/

The whole imagination theory is really starting to look more plausible. Walt's dad saying he'll look for the dog when the rain stops..... bam....... and then when hes walking in the jungle he mumbles "damn haunted jungle" or something like that and bammo he starts hearing noises in the bush.[/B]

That was the plot in one of the Star Trek episodes. People and things appeared from the crews thoughts and memories.

Originally posted by elspankdog
Had to do it.

http://www.evangeline-lilly.net/gallery/albums/17/normal_pilotpart2-110.jpg
No one has this in full HD resolution yet?

:D

Originally posted by dmbatch
Maybe the doc doesn't want to know what Kate did, but I do.

Also, I'm really starting to like Locke. O'Quinn always plays strange characters.
The fact that Kate had the gun but did not kill the "marshall" when she had multiple opportunities, seems to suggest that Kate is either innocent or was forced to do something illegal. In any event, she has the "clean slate" now.

Mickey

I'm also really starting to believe the kid has special powers - sort of a Stephen King type of thing or that Twilight Zone episode someone posted earlier. There seems to be too many coincidences between what happens with him and things that happen on the island.

btw- Kate even looked delicious in those mug shots in a tough girl sort of way.

It does start and stop raining alot in the tropics.

Ok ok enough about Kate already. She looks just like my sister in law and its creeping me out!

Anyone else on TW cable drop to SD last night for 4 min or so? The sound when the signal dropped down was terrible in comparision, they really did a great job on the HD/DD feed.

Originally posted by FrankJ.Cone
Ok ok enough about Kate already. She looks just like my sister in law and its creeping me out!

Anyone else on TW cable drop to SD last night for 4 min or so? The soudn when the signal dropped down was terrible in comparision, they really did a great job on the HD/DD feed.

Do you have any panty shots of your sister-in-law? :D

Drop out a few minutes before the end would be your local affiliate prepping for the local news - not ABC or TWC. Ours used to do that quite a bit, but now seems to have the timing down much better.

Originally posted by aaronwt
It does start and stop raining alot in the tropics.

Just like it did when they were in the jungle on the first episode. It started and stopped just as suddenly.

Originally posted by FrankJ.Cone
Ok ok enough about Kate already. She looks just like my sister in law and its creeping me out!

Anyone else on TW cable drop to SD last night for 4 min or so? The sound when the signal dropped down was terrible in comparision, they really did a great job on the HD/DD feed.

I tuned in about 5 minutes or so after it started and there was video & audio problems continuously. I switched to the SD channel. After the next set of commercials, I switched back to HD and it was cleared up & fine from that point on.

Originally posted by FrankJ.Cone
Ok ok enough about Kate already. She looks just like my sister in law and its creeping me out!


ummm...does your sister-in-law have a phone no? :D

How many episodes will there be? i thought someone said only 13

Originally posted by maxman
I tuned in about 5 minutes or so after it started and there was video & audio problems continuously. I switched to the SD channel. After the next set of commercials, I switched back to HD and it was cleared up & fine from that point on.

I was watching on Comcast, and the first fifteen minutes or so were terribly marred by all sorts of continual glitches. It even switched to SD for a while (resulting in major audio sync loss). After the second commercial break it was fine.

Anyone else in the Philly area notice that? Apparently it was a local issue.

LOST Pics (http://www.aaronwt.com/LOST)

Originally posted by shades
How many episodes will there be? i thought someone said only 13 How many times will shades ask this question in this thread ;)

I don't think anyone here really knows the answer, but if you go way back in this thread to this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4433647#post4433647), you'll find an answer.

How many episodes will ther be next year :D

In the scene in the tent when the FBI guy (?) wakes up and strangles Kate..fight ensues...PQ was not good. Silkscreen effect or blotching or whatever it's called. Did anyone else notice this, or do you think it's a calibration issue?

Originally posted by chroma601
I was watching on Comcast, and the first fifteen minutes or so were terribly marred by all sorts of continual glitches. It even switched to SD for a while (resulting in major audio sync loss). After the second commercial break it was fine.

Anyone else in the Philly area notice that? Apparently it was a local issue.

Same here - South Jersey; Comcast

Originally posted by labmansid
There seems to definitely be something going on with what Walt (or possibly his Dad) is thinking having some control over what happens on the island. Unless the rain stopping when it did was a big coincidence, I see a trend developing. I am somewhat reminded of that old "Twilight Zone" episode where the kid made all the adults watch cartoons and had strange powers.

If this kid can make things happen with thought, why didn't his dog just go back to him right away? But I know what you mean, the rain stopped right when his dad said it....spooky! :-)

Originally posted by Kamakzie
So do you guys think Jack finished that guy off or did he just die? Also did anything happen as the bald guy was smiling after the kid got his dog back? My HD Tivo cut it there.

on my 6208...damn you ABC! :-)

That was "twilight zone the movie" with the kid who had powers and made them all watch cartoons.

Are any of you tired of that kid who lost his dog? The attitude he has towards his dad is unbelievable. Man, if I had an attitude like that with my parents I would be picking myself up off the floor. I wanna see my action from this show.

Originally posted by FrankJ.Cone
Ok ok enough about Kate already. She looks just like my sister in law and its creeping me out! On behalf of the posters in this thread, I would like to personally apologize to your sister-in-law for all the tasteless comments. Please provide me her number and I will call her to apologize and ask her what she is wearing.

Originally posted by AFH
Are any of you tired of that kid who lost his dog? The attitude he has towards his dad is unbelievable. Man, if I had an attitude like that with my parents I would be picking myself up off the floor. I wanna see my action from this show.

Keep in mind he's been with his Mother this whole time. He barely knows his Father.

I was really excited about this show after the first 2 episodes but what the hell happened in episode 3? They took 1 hour to basically show 5 mins worth of material. It went from "cool new show" to "lifetime movie of the week". It was completey predictable. The bounty hunter character was really weak, like anybody would care about capturing the girl when they are on their death bed. They dragged out Kates story so long that I could careless why she got arrested now. They built that up way too much and I dont think any reason would be a shocker now. The boy and the dog is stupid, they really didnt need to include those characters, they offer nothing to the story but a "feel good" moment for the soccer moms watching. The asian couple is really making their culture look bad. The only believable character in the plot is the fat kid, he seems to be acting the way a real person would in this situation. Anyway, my 2 cents, Ill give the show one more chance next week but Im really disappointed.

Johnny

PS, they should have used the 1 bullet on the stuck up blonde Bi#$%

I'll agree that show 3 was a big letdown after 1 and 2. And I'm pissed that they let it run long to 9:01 pm

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
PS, they should have used the 1 bullet on the stuck up blonde Bi#$% Ditto. Man, when she starts whining I get so irritated I wanna change the channel.

Originally posted by paul watkins
That was "twilight zone the movie" with the kid who had powers and made them all watch cartoons.

Which was based on an original episode of the TV show called It's a Good Life (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-237/epid-12658/).

Originally posted by hefe
Which was based on an original episode of the TV show called It's a Good Life (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-237/epid-12658/). And it had a sequel (http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/GuidePageServlet/showid-9534/epid-228679/) episode in 2003.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Keep in mind he's been with his Mother this whole time. He barely knows his Father.

I didn't know that. That would explain why the kid has the 'tude'.

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
I was really excited about this show after the first 2 episodes but what the hell happened in episode 3? They took 1 hour to basically show 5 mins worth of material. It went from "cool new show" to "lifetime movie of the week". It was completey predictable. The bounty hunter character was really weak, like anybody would care about capturing the girl when they are on their death bed. They dragged out Kates story so long that I could careless why she got arrested now. They built that up way too much and I dont think any reason would be a shocker now. The boy and the dog is stupid, they really didnt need to include those characters, they offer nothing to the story but a "feel good" moment for the soccer moms watching. The asian couple is really making their culture look bad. The only believable character in the plot is the fat kid, he seems to be acting the way a real person would in this situation. Anyway, my 2 cents, Ill give the show one more chance next week but Im really disappointed.

Johnny

PS, they should have used the 1 bullet on the stuck up blonde Bi#$%

Yeah, what you said. Episode 3 could have been summed up in 5 minutes. The "weight challenged" kid is the coolest character on that show. The drug head with the bad Austrilian accent is the one that needs to have the "whistle" taken to his head. Is he annoying or what? The way the Asian guy acts towards his wife or girlfriend, you would think that his wife or girlfriend was his servent.

The writers also need to include less flashbacks of Kate's history and more flashes of her in those bikini cut panties. More of Kate in panties and less of the pregnant girl and other annoying characters is a good thing for this show. ;)

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
I was really excited about this show after the first 2 episodes but what the hell happened in episode 3? They took 1 hour to basically show 5 mins worth of material. It went from "cool new show" to "lifetime movie of the week". It was completey predictable. The bounty hunter character was really weak, like anybody would care about capturing the girl when they are on their death bed. They dragged out Kates story so long that I could careless why she got arrested now. They built that up way too much and I dont think any reason would be a shocker now. The boy and the dog is stupid, they really didnt need to include those characters, they offer nothing to the story but a "feel good" moment for the soccer moms watching. The asian couple is really making their culture look bad. The only believable character in the plot is the fat kid, he seems to be acting the way a real person would in this situation. Anyway, my 2 cents, Ill give the show one more chance next week but Im really disappointed.

Johnny

PS, they should have used the 1 bullet on the stuck up blonde Bi#$% The First Blood/Rambo movies are all available on DVD for your continual viewing pleasure :). Seriously though, anybody that is just interested in action only should change the channel now because the head writer (forgot his name) and JJ have said that this is going to be a character driven, mystery/action/adventure show. Personally, I like a good mixture of both. I think the reason they spent so much time with the Kate story/background is simply because she is the female lead. From the previews it appears that next weeks ep will get back to more of the other stuff. Will Mysterious Old Dude bite it next week? Or is it just another misdirection ploy like they did in last weeks' previews making it seem like Kate killed the Marshall? Stay tuned...

And just for the record, I for one definitely still want to know what Kate did. When Jack told her he didn't want to know I said "Oh, c'mon man, just tell him anyway!" :D I have a feeling it will come out eventually at some point.

ron

Anyone notice how careless they are with the limited supplies that they have. Maybe I am loosing sense of how long they have been on the island, but they are eventually going to have a limited supply of fire, batteries, etc. If I was on the island, I wouldn't let anyone light up cigarates with the lighter, use up the batteries on a portable cd player, etc, etc. This just strikes me as odd.

Ok, i love this show. It is awesome.

That said, i had a couple of issues with the last episode:
1. Once again too many commercials!!! Way too often!!!!!
2. Come on, guys, bury the damn bodies already. they've got to be smelling and attracting flies, and thats just gross leaving them in the plane where the sun beats down on it all day heating them up, and when they finally get around to that, its not going to be pretty.
3. Why did the doctor ask the marshall what she did, and then when she said she wanted to tell him then he didn't want to know. I understand that a person can change his mind, but that wasn't cool.
4. Last week, the "preview" had a lot of the same shots as the preview for next weeks episode, like with the knives and other shots with the older guy. They just teased us last week!

Other than that, great show. :) seriously.

They've been on the island 4 days so far. It's roughly 1 day for each of the first two episodes and 48 hours per show from here on out.

I feel like I'm talking about this show with a bunch of un-cultured Americans. Keep in mind women's rights in cultures such as China are not at all parallel to what you see in America today.

The reason he is treating his wife like that is because there are cultures that still do not look upon women's rights the way we do.

I think it provides an excellent look into what a lot of people on this forum, and the island itself in the story, don't always understand - difference between culture.

This part was slower than the rest, yet, but it's also one part of many. You can't have every single episode be exactly like the first two - that would be even more lame in my opinion (part of the reason 24 got old quick IMO).

Lost reminds me of Band of Brothers in a way - each episode told the story from a different perspective and a different way. Each part never equals the sum of all parts together. Some will have more action than others as they build the story.

There are going to be annoying characters like the blonde - I know this because I've flown with them.

Now don't get me wrong - there was some melodramatic parts in episode 3, but I'm not going to start drawing assumptions until I at least see a significant portion of the series.

I think the ridiculous number of commercials hurt episode 3 more than episode 3 hurt itself. Many movies have 30 minutes of character / plot building that we can make it through - the problem is ABC lengthens this to 60 minutes with commercials every 5 minutes.

I just don't find kates character beleivable. I don't see how an island full of mostly men would be too scared to ask a skinny chick what she got arrested for. In real life somebody would just asked, casual conversation.

And I never said in my post I only watch ACTION movies. My favorite TV show of all time was Quantum Leap. The first 2 episodes of Lost made this show look like a new sci-fi/thriller tv show. That is what I like. But after the last episode Im kinda wondering if its not going to turn into Swiss Family Robinson with the occasional invisable monster hunting them down.

They just need to throw in a little more realism and dump the soap opera crap. Why hasnt anybody explored the island better? How do they even know they are on an island? Nobody has tried walking to the other side. Could be a resort over there for all they know.

But I guess its too early to tell what direction they want this show to go in. I just hope its not going to turn into a non-reality version of Survivor. And I really look forward to the heart-warming episode when the chick gives birth (sarcasm).

Johnny

Originally posted by hypokondriak
I feel like I'm talking about this show with a bunch of un-cultured Americans. Keep in mind women's rights in cultures such as China are not at all parallel to what you see in America today.

Okay, there are Korean, not Chinese.

Sincerly,

Joe Six Pack

Originally posted by hypokondriak
I feel like I'm talking about this show with a bunch of un-cultured Americans. Keep in mind women's rights in cultures such as China are not at all parallel to what you see in America today.

The reason he is treating his wife like that is because there are cultures that still do not look upon women's rights the way we do.

I think it provides an excellent look into what a lot of people on this forum, and the island itself in the story, don't always understand - difference between culture.



Not to get OT, but I think people here in this culture (American culture) just aren't used to seeing women being treated like that and the woman not standing up for herself. Now I understand that every culture has it own "thing", but you must admit that for a bunch of Americans who watch this show, the way the guy treats his wife is not usual. B/c after all the "un-cultured Americans", your words not mine, are watching and responding to this show based on what we see in America.

Sorry that we Americans sometimes care about how a woman should be treated. If treating a woman with respect and as a equal is "un-cultured", well I guess that I'm guilty of being an "un-cultured" American. And I would rather be an "un-cultured" American any day rather than act like the way the "cultured" guy on Lost behaved.

Women have rights just like men. I could care less if "other" cultures don't look at "women's rights" the way we do. So friggin' what? How about treating someone like a human the way you would want to be treated. Oh, but I forgot, you must be cultured to treat a woman as though she is your servant. After all, the cavemen were some of the most civilized humans to ever walk the earth.

Now back to our regular scheduled program.

I thought they were Swedish :D

Johnny

Dude, it was Norwegian. But I understand the confusion. :D

I expect the action to slow down considerably from the first two-part episode. The writers have to stretch the story line over multiple seasons and there is only so much action-adventure they can do every week without reaching a point where it becomes predictable.

I think the show is intended to be character driven with some action-adventure thrown in. I believe we'll see more episodes that will focus on one or two of the characters and will reveal their background leading up to the crash. I'm actually more disappointed that we haven't seen or heard from any of the other survivors yet after 4 days on the island.

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
They just need to throw in a little more realism and dump the soap opera crap. Why hasnt anybody explored the island better? How do they even know they are on an island? Nobody has tried walking to the other side. Could be a resort over there for all they know.

Johnny
I agree. In fact, there is probably a Club Med on the other side of the trees. That would explain why the bushes keep shaking and all the groans and other animal noises.

Mickey

Originally posted by MickeyGee
I agree. In fact, there is probably a Club Med on the other side of the trees. That would explain why the bushes keep shaking and all the groans and other animal noises.

Mickey

What would explain why the bushes keep shaking and the moans and groans coming from the bushes? :eek: I, I don't understand. You mean that if there was a Club Med on the island people would be making moaning sounds in the bushes? :eek: What would they be doing? I mean, does the "bush" makes people moan? Uh, I don't get it. If you're in a "bush" it will make you moan and groan? How deep in the "bush" do you have to be to moan like the animal on the show does? I have been in plenty of "bushes" and I haven't moaned like the animals on that show. Have any of you moaned like when you were in a "bush"? Why won't some of the characters on the show just cut some of the "bush"? I know, I know, some people don't like to have the "bush" cut, but it would make it easier for them to move around the island.

Was it a mug shot or a wanted poster that he had of her? Because if it was a wanted poster, it would at least say WHY she was wanted. Anyway, aside from the commercial breaks I liked it. A little slow, but I almost doubled over laughing when Kate ripped the guy's arm off trying to haul him up the bank. Frankly, if it had been me, I'd have gotten him a few feet from the truck and run like heck.

-MP

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
Why hasnt anybody explored the island better? How do they even know they are on an island? Nobody has tried walking to the other side. Could be a resort over there for all they know.


They might still be under the impression that someone is trying to find them.


I wonder when they are going to resort to cannibalism? Or when will they get the dead polar bear and eat it?

Originally posted by AFH
Not to get OT, but I think people here in this culture (American culture) just aren't used to seeing women being treated like that and the woman not standing up for herself. Now I understand that every culture has it own "thing", but you must admit that for a bunch of Americans who watch this show, the way the guy treats his wife is not usual. B/c after all the "un-cultured Americans", your words not mine, are watching and responding to this show based on what we see in America.

Sorry that we Americans sometimes care about how a woman should be treated. If treating a woman with respect and as a equal is "un-cultured", well I guess that I'm guilty of being an "un-cultured" American. And I would rather be an "un-cultured" American any day rather than act like the way the "cultured" guy on Lost behaved.

Women have rights just like men. I could care less if "other" cultures don't look at "women's rights" the way we do. So friggin' what? How about treating someone like a human the way you would want to be treated. Oh, but I forgot, you must be cultured to treat a woman as though she is your servant. After all, the cavemen were some of the most civilized humans to ever walk the earth.

Now back to our regular scheduled program. And this from the guy who just wants to see more panty shots :rolleyes:. I think the asian guy treating his wife in the manner he quite likely would in real life is simply being realistic. Much more likely than hot babes sunbathing in their underwear on the beach after a plane crash (not that I'm complaining about that of course :) ).

Yes there are many inconsistencies with how things would most likely happen if this were real (using the battery power to play CD's really got me too, and it sure looked like Hurly was running down toward the surf to get that water. Hope that was for washing and not drinking...). But it is a TV show, not a documentary.

ron

No one has mentioned much about the coming attractions for next week. There was a shot of a guy standing on the beach in front of a bunch of trees in a suit. Who was this guy ? From the quick glimpse if didn't look like one of the other passengers.

Could this show be turning into a pseudo-2001/2010 story where somebody was lost, ie Dave in 2001, who transcends time and age. The island is similar to the original ship in 2001, sort of stuck a wormwhole, and could the guy in the suit be a passenger from the plane that crashed 16 yrs ago ?

Originally posted by madpoet
Was it a mug shot or a wanted poster that he had of her? Because if it was a wanted poster, it would at least say WHY she was wanted. Anyway, aside from the commercial breaks I liked it. A little slow, but I almost doubled over laughing when Kate ripped the guy's arm off trying to haul him up the bank. Frankly, if it had been me, I'd have gotten him a few feet from the truck and run like heck.

-MP

it was only a mugshot, not a wanted poster. I remember the overweight guy turning the paper around to the doc, and all it was was the mugshot of her. No name or any other info

Originally posted by NorthJersey
it was only a mugshot, not a wanted poster. I remember the overweight guy turning the paper around to the doc, and all it was was the mugshot of her. No name or any other info

Lets be sensitive to the "weight challenged" guy the show. Instead of calling him overweight we should be sensitive to others in his position and call him and others like him "weight challenged". We must be sensitive to other people's feelings.

Originally posted by NorthJersey
No one has mentioned much about the coming attractions for next week. There was a shot of a guy standing on the beach in front of a bunch of trees in a suit. Who was this guy ? From the quick glimpse if didn't look like one of the other passengers.


My first thought was that black lady's husband who was in the bathroom at the time of the crash.

Originally posted by AFH
Not to get OT, but I think people here in this culture (American culture) just aren't used to seeing women being treated like that and the woman not standing up for herself. Now I understand that every culture has it own "thing", but you must admit that for a bunch of Americans who watch this show, the way the guy treats his wife is not usual. B/c after all the "un-cultured Americans", your words not mine, are watching and responding to this show based on what we see in America.

Sorry that we Americans sometimes care about how a woman should be treated. If treating a woman with respect and as a equal is "un-cultured", well I guess that I'm guilty of being an "un-cultured" American. And I would rather be an "un-cultured" American any day rather than act like the way the "cultured" guy on Lost behaved.

Women have rights just like men. I could care less if "other" cultures don't look at "women's rights" the way we do. So friggin' what? How about treating someone like a human the way you would want to be treated. Oh, but I forgot, you must be cultured to treat a woman as though she is your servant. After all, the cavemen were some of the most civilized humans to ever walk the earth.

Now back to our regular scheduled program.

He didn't call you uncultured because you support women's rights. He called you uncultured because you acted unaware that other cultures behave differently from us.

Originally posted by R11
And this from the guy who just wants to see more panty shots :rolleyes:. I think the asian guy treating his wife in the manner he quite likely would in real life is simply being realistic. Much more likely than hot babes sunbathing in their underwear on the beach after a plane crash (not that I'm complaining about that of course :) ).

Yes there are many inconsistencies with how things would most likely happen if this were real (using the battery power to play CD's really got me too, and it sure looked like Hurly was running down toward the surf to get that water. Hope that was for washing and not drinking...). But it is a TV show, not a documentary.

ron

Oh, I'm so sorry for wanting people to be treated equally. Admiring a woman does not in any sort of way mean that I cannot think they should be treated with respect. ;)

What about the black box? Don't those have beacons? I think nobody is looking for them because they know where they are. I think CBS shot them down, hid cameras all over the island, and plan to show it live in the ultimate Season of Survivor Ever!!

Johnny

Originally posted by tss4
He didn't call you uncultured because you support women's rights. He called you uncultured because you acted unaware that other cultures behave differently from us.

Well, I'm not unaware that people behave differently, b/c after all everyone is diff. The point was that just b/c you don't think a woman should be treated like that doesn't mean that you're uncultured. I did say in an earlier post that the way the guy treated his wife was as though she was a servant. That elicited a response of "uncultured" Americans. I responded in turn. That is the point.

Originally posted by AFH
...The way the Asian guy acts towards his wife or girlfriend, you would think that his wife or girlfriend was his servent....

I'm not sure if Korean culture is different, but I did notice one scene where she had what appeared to be a wedding ring on.

What does culture have to do with anything? Theres alot of culture in the MIDEAST. Many of those women are not allowed to share their face in public. Does this mean they are right? No, it means they are living 4000 years in the past and have not evolved like the rest of the world.

Call me a modern guy but I feel that women should be FREE! Free to show their faces, free to vote, and free to cook my dinner!! :D :cool: :p

Johnny

Originally posted by NorthJersey
it was only a mugshot, not a wanted poster. I remember the overweight guy turning the paper around to the doc, and all it was was the mugshot of her. No name or any other info

The sign she is holding in the mugshot has a jail or prison name on it. Harrison Valley? I can't remember, but was readable in HD.

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
What does culture have to do with anything? Theres alot of culture in the MIDEAST. Many of those women are not allowed to share their face in public. Does this mean they are right? No, it means they are living 4000 years in the past and have not evolved like the rest of the world.

Call me a modern guy but I feel that women should be FREE! Free to show their faces, free to vote, and free to cook my dinner!! :D :cool: :p

Johnny

They are Korean, their culture is different, let's move on. If you are aggravated by his behavior, well that's what the producers were looking for. :-)

I'm not convinced the kid is causing these things to happen, or else his dog would have reappeared sooner. But he IS the only guy to have spent any quality time with the creepy bald guy. So who knows?

One nitpick...the nicey nicey music montage at the end where everyone was getting along (even the Iraqi and the hick) was a little too saccharine for me.

Originally posted by AFH
Well, I'm not unaware that people behave differently, b/c after all everyone is diff. The point was that just b/c you don't think a woman should be treated like that doesn't mean that you're uncultured. I did say in an earlier post that the way the guy treated his wife was as though she was a servant. That elicited a response of "uncultured" Americans. I responded in turn. That is the point.

Seems this was simply a little confusion then. Your statement about the man and his wife seemed to be a result of suprise as opposed to a moral statement on the evils of female oppresion. Taken that way you sounded ignorant to other cultures. Glad to see you're not. Now back to topic.

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
and plan to show it live in the ultimate Season of Survivor Ever!!

Johnny


wouldn't be too difficult, if you catch my drift :)

Originally posted by AFH
...Oh, but I forgot, you must be cultured to treat a woman as though she is your servant. After all, the cavemen were some of the most civilized humans to ever walk the earth.

Now back to our regular scheduled program.

I think the comment just was about Americans typically being unaware of what is considered more normal in other cultures. "Uncultured" was probably an unfortunate word to use, but reading in context, I think it was meant differently.

Originally posted by NorthJersey
The island is similar to the original ship in 2001, sort of stuck a wormwhole, and could the guy in the suit be a passenger from the plane that crashed 16 yrs ago ?
I like that idea. If you are not already writing for this show, you should be.

Mickey

Man, I'm gone for a couple hours and the whole conversation goes wacky. Let's try to avoid the personal attacks.

For future reference, when someone that refers to a Korean couple as Chinese - as if there's no difference - accuses you of being uncultured, take it with a grain of salt. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by hypokondriak
Have they actually showed the old bald dude in a clip on the plane yet? I can't recall one at all.

I'm not quite convinced yet that he wasn't already on the island....

but I could have missed something - I just started watching on Saturday.
So far they have made a point to show very few of the "at least 48" survivors actually on the plane via flashbacks. The only ones that come to mind right now are Jack, Kate, Charlie, the Marshall, and the woman sitting next to Jack. I haven't looked very hard in the background of the plane scenes for familiar faces, but the rest of the survivors, even the ones who are being more developed (Locke, Walt and his Dad, etc.), have yet to be shown in flashbacks. Maybe later on?

If your a studio paying big money to 48 tv actors, would you bring them in whenever you needed extras in the background? Or would you get volunteers who just want to be on tv to play the extras for free?


Johnny

I am pretty sure i saw locke on the plane in flashbacks

One nitpick...the nicey nicey music montage at the end where everyone was getting along (even the Iraqi and the hick) was a little too saccharine for me.

I though it appropriately set up the final scene, of the bald man's scowling face...followed by him growling as the scene faded out...

—Dan

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
I thought they were Swedish :D

Johnny

Nope, I think they're Vulcans with plastic surgery on the ears so they can be undercover while they hunt down the creature that got loose from an earlier Vulcan ship crashing onto the island.

Jim :eek:

TRIBBLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:





Johnny

Originally posted by danco
I though it appropriately set up the final scene, of the bald man's scowling face...followed by him growling as the scene faded out...

—Dan

Yeah, but ABC ran 1 min over, so my 6208 didn't catch that part :-(

Even for Koreans, his behavior is not so normal (coming from a Korean male)...

Anyway, the subtitle was showing "Sun" when Jin called Sun before he told her that he loved her. However, what he said is closer to "Honey" (ja-gi-ya), so I still think they are a couple, married or not.

And did I say Daniel Dae Kim's Korean suck? :p

Hong.

I assumed they were Japanese, shows what I know. :D

Originally posted by hypokondriak


Lost reminds me of Band of Brothers in a way - each episode told the story from a different perspective and a different way. Each part never equals the sum of all parts together. Some will have more action than others as they build the story.


Well, hell..now I am going to have to get that dvd set.

Thanks a lot...wife already thinks I'm obbsessed. :-}

BoB was the easiest DVD purchase I ever made, though after having originally seen them on HBO HD I really wish I could get them that way.

Back to Lost... I really, really wish they'd have cut the freaking commercials and run it in the time alloted.

Originally posted by drunkpenguin

" just don't find kates character beleivable. I don't see how an island full of mostly men would be too scared to ask a skinny chick what she got arrested for. In real life somebody would just asked, casual conversation. "

Only doc and I think smoking wanna be tough dude know..oh and Hurley, but he's scared of his own shadow.


"They just need to throw in a little more realism and dump the soap opera crap."

I don't see the soap opera crap ..is that what any interaction between a man and a woman is?

" Why hasnt anybody explored the island better?"

Go ahead... :-}

" How do they even know they are on an island? Nobody has tried walking to the other side. Could be a resort over there for all they know. "

yeah!

http://www.superclubs.com/brand_hedonism/Resort_HedonismIII/index.asp

"But I guess its too early to tell what direction they want this show to go in. I just hope its not going to turn into a non-reality version of Survivor. And I really look forward to the heart-warming episode when the chick gives birth (sarcasm)."

Well, it'll happen soon so you'll get your wish. :-}

Originally posted by Iteki
Okay, there are Korean, not Chinese.

Sincerly,

Joe Six Pack


I never said they were.

Sincerely,

Drawh-Ing Concluzens

Yeah that last scene where Hurly was listening to the portable CD player I half expected Saheed (Saied? I dunno) to come over and slap him upside the head seeing as he was so worried about boosting signals earlier.

The whole not exploring the island thing is sorta understandable for the first day or two and to be fair those who have ventured into the jungle before were almost eaten by a gigantic invisible thing and then a polar bear..... I wouldnt be too psyched about running through the jungle either.

Did we see the bald guy in scenes where the forest was getting trampled by the beast?

Originally posted by AFH

Women have rights just like men. I could care less if "other" cultures don't look at "women's rights" the way we do. So friggin' what? How about treating someone like a human the way you would want to be treated. Oh, but I forgot, you must be cultured to treat a woman as though she is your servant. After all, the cavemen were some of the most civilized humans to ever walk the earth.

Now back to our regular scheduled program.

Ok your point is valid, but the reason we think the way we do is because we have developed or learned to operate under time to this philosophy - as a result it's a pretty easy conclusion for you or me to draw. I mean you say so friggin what, but it's not that easy when you've been taught a certain way since birth. The "Golden Rule" is great and all because our kindergarden walls are plastered with it, but you go across a border and you're likely to get blank stares when you bring this up.

It's just as natural for them to point at you and say you are wrong as it is for you to point to them and say it - I don't think one can really understand culture without recognizing this.

REgardless - we're really getting into a off-topic discussion about Western cultures which is out of place, but your post almost sounds as if you expect any different cultures to suddenly adopt a Western culture in a plane crash - pretty unrealistic if you ask me.

Like I said earlier - I think it's an excellent asset to the story and really increases the overall character depth. This couple has cultural, language, and from the actions of the female even personal barriers to move beyond resulting from this situation. I think these two characters put the "realism" of a plane crash into perspective more than the dead bodies and blood that's just like we've seen in every other movie. Like I said - a ton of depth there without any special effects or actions.

I love it.

Originally posted by hypokondriak

Like I said earlier - I think it's an excellent asset to the story and really increases the overall character depth. This couple has cultural, language, and from the actions of the female even personal barriers to move beyond resulting from this situation. I think these two characters put the "realism" of a plane crash into perspective more than the dead bodies and blood that's just like we've seen in every other movie. Like I said - a ton of depth there without any special effects or actions.

I love it.

I agree completely. The scene between the two was kind of tense which added to the "realism" of their situation.

Originally posted by R11
And this from the guy who just wants to see more panty shots :rolleyes:. I think the asian guy treating his wife in the manner he quite likely would in real life is simply being realistic. Much more likely than hot babes sunbathing in their underwear on the beach after a plane crash (not that I'm complaining about that of course :) ).

Yes there are many inconsistencies with how things would most likely happen if this were real (using the battery power to play CD's really got me too, and it sure looked like Hurly was running down toward the surf to get that water. Hope that was for washing and not drinking...). But it is a TV show, not a documentary.

ron

I don't think most of the people even realize that they were off course until now as a result all of these people were working under the assumption for the first few days that they would be rescued. The doctor and crew that found the pilot didn't share this info right away!!!

In other words the overall impact is just setting in with these people now. I could say I'd probably be listening to my CD player too - most people would assume a rescue party would be there in no time. I mean I can't think of any consumer plane crash in recent history we haven't been able to identify where it went down - some even being in the middle of the ocean!

It's not like they knew day 1 that they were going to be on the island for some time. You need to forget that you know this is a 13 episode series - they don't realize this yet! ;)

Sorry guys I now see we are several hours past the culture ending discusison - my bad!!!

I'll shutup about it now.

I think the whole "lets get together yah yah yah" parent trap ending was a little weak, but once again I look at it from a somewhat realistic standpoint. I think after a few days in that situation every one is going to realize they've got to look beyond it - now they probably could have shown this happening differently, but I'm guessing no matter what it was going to end up being cheesey - I'm just glad they did it all at once instead of having to suffer through it 10 different times!

I'm willing to be things are going to go sour again though - after what remaining hope they have is gone, they run out of food, and stress levels rise we can expect some more tension.

I'm the #1 Lost fan in the World - I'll defend it until the very first slow motion "run and hug" scene - then I'm jumping off the bandwagon.

Originally posted by hypokondriak
I feel like I'm talking about this show with a bunch of un-cultured Americans. Keep in mind women's rights in cultures such as China are not at all parallel to what you see in America today.

The reason he is treating his wife like that is because there are cultures that still do not look upon women's rights the way we do.

Or maybe it's because it's an American writer's conception of what Asian male/female relationship is like :)

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
I just don't find kates character beleivable. I don't see how an island full of mostly men would be too scared to ask a skinny chick what she got arrested for. In real life somebody would just asked, casual conversation.


_I_ would be afraid to ask Kate what she did as it might hurt my chances (no matter how infinitesimal) of getting into her oh so cute underpants :)

Originally posted by GrantMeThePower
Dude, it was Norwegian. But I understand the confusion. :D

Seem like the reference to the "Curb" joke was lost on most folks in here...but I thought it was funny...but what do I know...go ask a Swede!

Just to jump into a few comments...running one minute over really sucked, my DVR missed the tense ending and the next episode scenes (the way it got cut for me with the boy and his dog reunited was sickly sweet).

I would have let Kate tell me what she did...I'd like to know if I'm marooned with a serial killer or not.

About the show going multiple seasons...they can do just like Gilligan...get them on the rescue boat, and it gets in a storm and crashes on another island...but when they all start driving around in a bamboo/thatch car, I'm going to stop watching.

Did anyone pick up the clue about the monster. There was this question about the Doc seeing dinosaurs. The Doc siad no it can't be dinosaurs, they don't exist. My guess is it is a T-rex and they are in a time warp.

Well there was also the clue in the beginning where the gal sitting next to Doc said it sounded familiar (she was from the Bronx).

I thought maybe something from the Zoo? (Like the polar bear?)

Originally posted by CPanther95
They've been on the island 4 days so far. It's roughly 1 day for each of the first two episodes and 48 hours per show from here on out.

I wonder how long Jack with have his 2-day beard.

Originally posted by maxman
I wonder how long Jack with have his 2-day beard.

they will likely find shaving kits or someone will make a razor or a blade or something

has to happen..you can't have a show go on with people looking scraggly all the time

Kate won't be so hot with hairy legs and armpits!


Johnny

Sorry I haven't had time to read all 70 pages of the thread, just the last 20 or so, so sorry if this was already discussed, but I think it was TV Guide that said they were going to have the folks being chased by wild boars...and they had a problem in that the real boars they had didn't want to chase anyone, so they had to settle for CGI pigs chasing folks. So I figured that's what was chasing Walt's father, but they never showed what it was really.

That's interesting, but its hard to imagine wild boars pushing over trees. Maybe they will be another "teaser" monster (like the polar bear).

What I want to know is, where is the guy who said he saw the first three episodes earlier in this thread and was quick to tell us how far off everyone was guessing what the creature was? hmmm.

Who cares? I don't want to know if I am (or anyone else is) right or not until I see it on air.

Well, we've seen three episodes now. Do you know what the creature is?

I didn't think so. Apparently the guy bragging earlier couldn't have known either.

Originally posted by scolumbo
Well, we've seen three episodes now. Do you know what the creature is?


I didn't think so. Apparently the guy bragging earlier couldn't have known either.

Saw this today, it's a link to an interview with Matthew Fox and Dominic Monaghan and they talk about the "animal". It is not definitive but it certainly points it in a certain direction, or actually points it away from being something already mentioned here. View at you own discretion.

http://et.tv.yahoo.com/micro/falltv2004/lost_carlosponcesetvisit/
Entertainment Tonight - Fall TV 2004

Jim

Originally posted by scolumbo
Well, we've seen three episodes now. Do you know what the creature is?

I didn't think so. Apparently the guy bragging earlier couldn't have known either.
Maybe he's a Phillip Swann wannabe!! :D

you can't have a show go on with people looking scraggly all the timeSure you can ... seen "Survivor"? But yeah, I would think there'd be plenty of razor blades ...

-- Rob

Originally posted by barth2k
_I_ would be afraid to ask Kate what she did as it might hurt my chances (no matter how infinitesimal) of getting into her oh so cute underpants :)
Do you wear the same size she does?? :p

Originally posted by labmansid
Do you wear the same size she does?? :p
LMAO

Originally posted by fhall1
...but when they all start driving around in a bamboo/thatch car, I'm going to stop watching. I'll stop watching when Doc makes a radio out of coconuts.

Originally posted by keenan
Saw this today, it's a link to an interview with Matthew Fox and Dominic Monaghan and they talk about the "animal". It is not definitive but it certainly points it in a certain direction, or actually points it away from being something already mentioned here. View at you own discretion.

http://et.tv.yahoo.com/micro/falltv2004/lost_carlosponcesetvisit/
Entertainment Tonight - Fall TV 2004

Jim Also, Damon Lindelof has been quoted as saying that it is NOT a dinosaur.

Originally posted by keenan
Saw this today, it's a link to an interview with Matthew Fox and Dominic Monaghan and they talk about the "animal". It is not definitive but it certainly points it in a certain direction, or actually points it away from being something already mentioned here. View at you own discretion.

http://et.tv.yahoo.com/micro/falltv2004/lost_carlosponcesetvisit/
Entertainment Tonight - Fall TV 2004

Jim


What this tells me is, they aren't going to reveal the creature anytime soon.

I could've sworn I saw this really thin dude in a sailor hat, red shirt and jeans along with his skipper in the woods...could it be??? ;)

so that was the S.S. Minnow mowing down trees?

Originally posted by scolumbo
so that was the S.S. Minnow mowing down trees?
No, just Gilligan test driving the new bamboo buggy!! :p

Originally posted by scolumbo
Well, we've seen three episodes now. Do you know what the creature is?

I didn't think so. Apparently the guy bragging earlier couldn't have known either. Or maybe he wasn't even talking about the "monster" in the jungle at all, but was referring to the twist with Kate and her background? Or not...I think the whole "lets get together yah yah yah" parent trap ending was a little weak, but once again I look at it from a somewhat realistic standpoint. I think after a few days in that situation every one is going to realize they've got to look beyond it - now they probably could have shown this happening differently, but I'm guessing no matter what it was going to end up being cheesey - I'm just glad they did it all at once instead of having to suffer through it 10 different times!Like everyone else here, that whole sequence had me going :rolleyes: as well. But then immediately they switched to the closeup of the freaky old dude and the ominous music in the background and I knew things were all right once again :D.

ron

Originally posted by borghe
hehe... none of you guys are even close yet.. lol...

and yes, thedevelop quite a few characters... when I watched the pilot originally it was the whole pilot... I guess I forgot how much more packed the second half is than the first half.. next week you will see how many of the characters they develop.. you will be pleasantly surprised..

as for what is on the island, I haven't heard a single correct guess yet. :)

Did we miss something? :rolleyes:

I guess "or not" would be the most appropriate part of the first half of my last post then :). Thanks for digging that back up. Now we have to hold his feet to the fire :D.

ron

Originally posted by hypokondriak
I think the whole "lets get together yah yah yah" parent trap ending was a little weak, but once again I look at it from a somewhat realistic standpoint. I think after a few days in that situation every one is going to realize they've got to look beyond it - now they probably could have shown this happening differently, but I'm guessing no matter what it was going to end up being cheesey - I'm just glad they did it all at once instead of having to suffer through it 10 different times!

The title of the episode was "Tabula Rasa" and I think most everyone agrees that the clean slate definition is what they were going for. I think they just wanted to show a brief glimpse of how that could look before moving on to the next mystery.

The final shot of Locke gave me the chills and removed any warm fuzzies I might have gotten from the "feel good" montage. JMO

Looks like the next episode may focus around Locke more, and the black lady too (I forget her name...)

I think they may have found some special mushrooms ... hence the halucinations... but I could be wrong.. :)

I think they may have found some special mushrooms ...
Or some bad shell fish?

I was going to be really pissed off if the sea food the Korean guy fed the pregnant lady ended up killing her or the baby. Nothing like using your fellow survivors to test out the food to see if its poisonous?

Originally posted by CPanther95
Did we miss something? :rolleyes: He also mentioned how he downloaded it from a particular site but I have never seen Lost episodes "available" before they aired. And if I did, I certainly wouldn't be bragging about it and spoiling everyone's fun.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Did we miss something? :rolleyes:
No, but I think the survivors of the plane crash could use all the smoke he was blowing for a rescue signal and be off the island by now!! :)

I have noticed Borghe hasn't posted in here for awhile... :)

I also wanted to say, in regards to episode 3, and the story so far....

You really are given the impression that Locke knows something... the "secret" he tells the kid... his expression at the end of episode 3... But I think there is something else we have to remember. Some of the same people involved in Lost are also involved in Alias.. They are pretty good at getting their audience to believe something, and then throw you and total wringer that blows you away!
I think the Locke character is being shown in this way... He may know some things, but I bet it's not what we think.

Did anyone in the Twincities, MN area record Lost on 10/6?

I got messed up by the baseball playoffs and didn't get to see it.

Thanks,
Jason

One other thing... now that I caught up reading this thread... (whew! :) )

For anyone that has a DVR and has not yet learned to 'pad' the recordings... better start padding!

I found it funny that so many people got cut off at the end... (I know, it's not funny when it happens to you...) So many shows run over... Alias did last year, as I recall (especially for the previews/credits) I could name others, but don't want to scare anyone by the shows I watch... :)

Anyways, I pad ALL my season passes by at least 1 minute... It's just gotta be that way. Better to have a little longer, than to miss the last little bits of your favorite shows!

Anyways, back to the topic at hand... :)

Originally posted by JayDog_2
One other thing... now that I caught up reading this thread... (whew! :) )

For anyone that has a DVR and has not yet learned to 'pad' the recordings... better start padding!

I found it funny that so many people got cut off at the end... (I know, it's not funny when it happens to you...) So many shows run over... Alias did last year, as I recall (especially for the previews/credits) I could name others, but don't want to scare anyone by the shows I watch... :)

Anyways, I pad ALL my season passes by at least 1 minute... It's just gotta be that way. Better to have a little longer, than to miss the last little bits of your favorite shows!

Anyways, back to the topic at hand... :)

Unless you are recording something else immediately following the show. Miss the end of one or the beginning of another, 1 min is 1 min and we aren't getting it back! :-(

Oh yeah, I forgot about the unfortunate people that only have one tuner... :D

I've had dual tuners for so long now... I can't remember what life was like before... :)

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Oh yeah, I forgot about the unfortunate people that only have one tuner... :D

I've had dual tuners for so long now... I can't remember what life was like before... :)

Very low! :-)

I think the "feel good" ending was meant to be ironic. That is probably the last we'll see of that kind of harmony, as foreshadowed by Locke right at the end.

No offense... :)

wait, how does it go now....?

nyah nyah.. nyah nyah nyah... :D



Oh, and back to the topic.... I wish that if they show anymore scenes with Kate in her underwear, that they show more of her a$$... looks nice, but need more details... :)

Had to get that 'manly comment' out there... :cool:

My wife asked me recently.. "are there any women on this forum?"
.... apparently not too many!

Originally posted by JayDog_2
I also wanted to say, in regards to episode 3, and the story so far....

You really are given the impression that Locke knows something... the "secret" he tells the kid... his expression at the end of episode 3... But I think there is something else we have to remember. Some of the same people involved in Lost are also involved in Alias.. They are pretty good at getting their audience to believe something, and then throw you and total wringer that blows you away!
I think the Locke character is being shown in this way... He may know some things, but I bet it's not what we think.

Maybe Locke is really a survivor of the other crash and has simply insinuated himself into this crew.

"hey anybody remember seeing this creepy old guy before?"

Maybe I'm just a Network Primetime junkie, but even with two tuners, both are generally busy from 8-11pm. Most shows do recap in the beginning though, so after Lost this week, I may change the season passes to :01 - :01. After reading this, I really wanted to see the look on Locke's face at the very end - but I also got cut off at mid-pan and only see the side of his face.

He was shown on the plane sitting behind the black lady, as I recall...

Also, there is nothing that would lead anyone to believe there was a previous plane crash on this island... The radio signal they heard gives more of an impression of some kind of facility.. with a renewable power source to keep broadcasting that message... I would guess that somewhere on the island is a secret lab where various experiments were once carried out...
Weren't the French involved in some weird nuclear related stuff in the French Polynesian islands (IRL) ?

Originally posted by CPanther95
Maybe I'm just a Network Primetime junkie, but even with two tuners, both are generally busy from 8-11pm. Most shows do recap in the beginning though, so after Lost this week, I may change the season passes to :01 - :01. After reading this, I really wanted to see the look on Locke's face at the very end - but I also got cut off at mid-pan and only see the side of his face.

I think you watch too much TV! :D

Actually I do have nights that I get conflicts on, luckily I have an SD TIvo set-up upstairs that I can record the SD only shows on... been lucky so far... :)

Originally posted by JayDog_2
He was shown on the plane sitting behind the black lady, as I recall...

Yes immediately behind her both on the aisle.

Originally posted by CPanther95
I may change the season passes to :01 - :01.Is that possible? With TiVo, it seems to me like you can only start early and stop late. That's been annoying me ever since I got mine. It's less problematic now that I'm set up for two tuners, but occasionally....

I just assumed - but I'm a new Tivo-er

Originally posted by tbb1226
Is that possible? With TiVo, it seems to me like you can only start early and stop late. That's been annoying me ever since I got mine. It's less problematic now that I'm set up for two tuners, but occasionally.... Correct, it's not possible.

OK, since this question keeps coming up here are some screen shots regarding the "bald guy". He appears to be directly behind the "black lady" on the plane. Notice his shirt and watch, and compare to him on the beach.
This first one is an overall view inside the plane.

This is a cropped, closer view of the "bald guy".

Now for comparison, this is on the beach after the crash.

Not to be greedy...how 'bout the final shot of Locke at the end of Episode #3.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Not to be greedy...how 'bout the final shot of Locke at the end of Episode #3.

I'll bet you get your picture within 15 minutes.

:p

Originally posted by CPanther95
I really wanted to see the look on Locke's face at the very end -

It was like a 1000 yard stare,

Jim

Originally posted by CPanther95
Not to be greedy...how 'bout the final shot of Locke at the end of Episode #3.
Anything for the Mod!! :D

Wow - 12 minutes. Thank you much.

That's what I remember - not sure if he's got a creepy face, or if my subconscious is just remembering him as the Stepfather.

Even the shot of the orange in Ep. 1.......at first I chuckled, reminded me of the Godfather - but a split second later, I got a creepy chill and it was anything but humorous.

One more, this one is just a few seconds before the last shot as the camera is still panning around, and he never blinks during the whole time.

Yeah, it was the way the camera panned him from left to front and the expression on his face never changed, plus the creepy music they were playing. It creeped me out.

Anyone notice in the first episode, After they first hear the thing in the jungle the black lady says "It sounded sooo familiar, Like I have heard it somewhere before" then a guys asks her "where you from" she replies "The Bronx". This all happens in the background if you listen closely you can hear them talking.

So clues are, What in the Bronx sounds like that "thing"?

Originally posted by Parker Lewis
So clues are, What in the Bronx sounds like that "thing"?

Based on the crashing sound, my guess would be The Red Sox? :)

Originally posted by Parker Lewis
So clues are, What in the Bronx sounds like that "thing"? Trapped souls in New Jersey?

The "Down Under" scenes were filmed on highway 803, between Schofield Barracks and Waialua. Nice touches included the right-hand drive truck and a fake mileage sign post that included Melbourne (I couldn't read the other 2 cities). I like the little details that the producers pay attention to.

While I agree that it was dumb of Hurley to waste the batteries on the CD player, it worked for the episode, because otherwise, that song would have seemed really out of place. As it was, it seemed like something Hurley would be listening to.

At first I thought it was going to turn out to be the kid's band on the radio he was listening to.

The TV guide said there were wild hogs lose on the island.

Originally posted by Parker Lewis
Anyone notice in the first episode, After they first hear the thing in the jungle the black lady says "It sounded sooo familiar, Like I have heard it somewhere before" then a guys asks her "where you from" she replies "The Bronx". This all happens in the background if you listen closely you can hear them talking.

So clues are, What in the Bronx sounds like that "thing"?

She may have frequented the Bronx Zoo.

i havent seen this mentioned, but to me the "animal" sounds very mechanical. i dont know whether its poor sound effects or it really is something mechanical and they want you to think monster. almost like a garbage truck, there are loud bangs, squeeks and other noises.

edit: actually i do see it mentioned as the "Dr. No" comment someone made. my bad.

Originally posted by KobeShaq
i havent seen this mentioned, but to me the "animal" sounds very mechanical. i dont know whether its poor sound effects or it really is something mechanical and they want you to think monster. almost like a garbage truck, there are loud bangs, squeeks and other noises. I agree, it's almost certainly some sort of machine, if the sound effects are any indication. That would also explain why the "animal" didn't eat the pilot after killing him.

Maybe it's the big 3D animated robot Fox had for it's NFL broadcast graphics one season. :)

Speaking of attention to small details, I just realized that the whole highway scene was shot with US left-hand drive vehicles, then reversed to make it appear Australian (right-hand drive). They even went to the trouble of making mirror-image license plates that would read correctly when the image was flipped. The only way to know this is that the U.S. Marshal's GMC Suburban still has the GMC logo on its grill, but they blacked it out to make it more difficult to see. If you pause it, though, you can clearly see that there's a discrepancy between the lettering of the logo (which is backwards) and the numbers and letters on the fake license plate.

The amazing thing, is that they had to reverse everything -- watches and wedding bands were worn on actors' right hands, the Australian farmer had to conceal his mirror image right arm while in the truck... the only mistake they made, as far as I can tell, is when Kate is dragging him out of the truck, they briefly show both of the farmer's arms (and neither is prosthetic), and he's still got his wedding band on his right arm (so they stopped mirroring the footage at that point). Then a second later, they change the shot and his fake right arm comes off, sans wedding band.

Only question is, why go through the trouble of the fake arm in the first place? Maybe just to add a deeper sense of realism? :confused:

Good eye, Hounsfield. The GMC logo on the "bounty hunter's"? truck is definitely reversed and blacked out. Right before the wipe out, you might be able to recognize the raised white lettering on the rear tire. I couldn't make it out, but it was probably clear enough - if you recognized what tire it was - you could tell if it was reversed or not.

I don't know how you caught that - I was too busy staring at the lovely Kate! I did have an uneasy feeling that something wasn't right in that scene, though...