You can stare at her monday night on Jimmy Kimmell , that show is dumb even when they have good guests but i may actually watch monday.

Her freckles were reversed. That's how I caught it! ;)

The TV guide said there were wild hogs lose on the island.
Wild hogs don't drag pilots through cockpit windows 40 feet off the ground and then stash them in the trees...

(But really big cats might...)

Originally posted by CPanther95
Good eye, Hounsfield. The GMC logo on the "bounty hunter's"? truck is definitely reversed and blacked out. Right before the wipe out, you might be able to recognize the raised white lettering on the rear tire. I couldn't make it out, but it was probably clear enough - if you recognized what tire it was - you could tell if it was reversed or not.

Yah, I noticed that, too. Couldn't read it though. Might be interesting to see if any of you that have it DVR'd in HD can read the mileage sign in the scene where they're standing on the side of the road... I can just make out "Melbourne" as the bottom line, but I can't read the other two cities or distances. Reason I'm curious is that even though the show looks great to me, I still see a fair amount of compression, and I'm wondering if maybe we're getting "cheated" out of some bandwidth here in Hawaii. The way a lot of you are raving about how great LOST looks in HD, makes me wonder if I'm missing out on the full HD experience (I'm also pretty sure I'm not getting 5.1 audio).

Yeah, it was the way the camera panned him from left to front and the expression on his face never changed, plus the creepy music they were playing. It creeped me out.
Was it just me...or was Locke growling as the scene faded out?

Finished dumping 3 episodes to DVHS, total recording time without commecials is 2h2m05s.

Originally posted by Hounsfield
Yah, I noticed that, too. Couldn't read it though. Might be interesting to see if any of you that have it DVR'd in HD can read the mileage sign in the scene where they're standing on the side of the road... I can just make out "Melbourne" as the bottom line, but I can't read the other two cities or distances. Reason I'm curious is that even though the show looks great to me, I still see a fair amount of compression, and I'm wondering if maybe we're getting "cheated" out of some bandwidth here in Hawaii. The way a lot of you are raving about how great LOST looks in HD, makes me wonder if I'm missing out on the full HD experience (I'm also pretty sure I'm not getting 5.1 audio).

Best looking series I have ever seen in HD period. CSI is to dark, Hawaii drama is very low detail....Something about Bob is a comedy, So hey it may look good.....Just not much more to compare it to except LIVE football which only looks a little better to me.

Gotta say, Me and the wife are very impressed with the detail but have had MANY audio dropouts in 5.1 here on Cox.

Originally posted by Hounsfield
Speaking of attention to small details, I just realized that the whole highway scene was shot with US left-hand drive vehicles, then reversed to make it appear Australian (right-hand drive). Holy crap, you're right.

There's a tag stuck on the window behind Kate that's supposed to be readable from the outside of the car. It's (almost) readable from the inside.

Originally posted by Hounsfield
Her freckles were reversed. That's how I caught it! ;)

uh huh. and not b/c her right breast was slightly larger than her left? :)

LOL!

A reminder for the guys here that evangeline lilly will be on jimmy kimmel tonite, although it will be late because of the game.

"1. Once again too many commercials!!! Way too often!!!!!"

This is not a problem if you have a Tivo. :)

The part where they decide to run long, however, is. :(

Mark

Yes, there are too many commercials. I think this could have been great as a high-def HBO series...

For anyone interested, I took a trip out to the LOST set this weekend, and snapped a few photos: LOST ON LOCATION (http://lost-on-location.incohost.com/index.html)

Fair warning: anyone who might get upset seeing the set -- as a set -- may not want to view these. Not that there are any spoilers or anything contained within, but I know that for some, it might "ruin the illusion." I doubt it though, as it pretty much looks exactly like it does on TV...

Also, if you want to see some notes about the photos, highlight the rest of this message. Again, no real spoilers, just some factual observations:

1. The photos taken from the car were my attempts to locate the areas where the highway scenes were filmed. I thought I found part of it on highway 803, but the telephone poles were on the wrong side of the road (unless the scene with the mileage sign was reversed, and those houses/buildings in the background were CG'd in later -- there are no buildings around there, just pineapple fields)

2. The site is "guarded" by two kids that look like they're in high school. One of them was lounging under the wing of the aircraft; the other was practicing his sand wedge shot, and neither seemed too concerned that I was walking around snapping photos. In fact, I probably could have walked away with one of the plane's wheels, and they never would have known! Of course, I didn't do that, and I wouldn't recommend anyone go looting, as I wouldn't want their security policies to change. As it is, I imagine that if someone wanted to, they could bring their video camera and shoot their own episode of 'LOST!' ;)

3. The main fuselage, and the tent where the Marshal was shot, is right next to the road! Fortunately for them, there isn't much traffic on the road, especially at the times they appear to film (early morning and after dark).

4. The bodies were still in the fuselage, and the smell was horrendous.

5. There were a few locals lounging around the beach, who didn't seem the least bit interested in the set. I guess they've seen it enough over the past few months. There was also a green sea turtle down by the surf.

6. The valley that the survivors often look up to, has no tall vegetation. The scenes with the mysterious noises and rustling vegetation, must have all been CG'd.

7. Just beyond the Marshal's tent, there was a cargo container and set lighting equipment.

8. Just kidding (about #4). :p

9. Sadly, Kate was nowhere in sight. :(


Edited: Updated the link to the new server (too many hits on the last one!)

Originally posted by Hounsfield
4. The bodies were still in the fuselage, and the smell was horrendous. :D

Thanks so much Hounsfield! I love this stuff. It's like we have our own E! reporter on the set of Lost.

It's amazing that it's right there by the road like that. Quite a contrast to the security on most location sets in the continental states. I guess things are just more laid back down there - fewer curiosity seekers.

Hounsfield,

Thanks for posting that. What part of Hawaii is that? I was just there but missed my opportunity to see that. We were watching the filming of the show Hawaii in Waikiki.

This looks to be on the North Shore, up towards Waimea, maybe.

That's hilarious... I almost spit my soda out when I read #4. :D

Interesting tidbit...

While getting my haircut this weekend... I was talking to my stylist about this show... she hadn't seen it, but told me that their new receptionist played a short role in it. I'll have to get the guys name later... From what I gathered he is one of the 'others' that are not really shown, and in fact I don't think he has appeared yet in the series. But she did say that he dies in one of the next episodes. So it stands to reason that the 'others' will be killed off slowly when the story needs someone to die... :)

Anyways, thought it was interesting.. The guy has kinda short curly dark hair, regular build... If I see him in the next episode, I'll make a point to follow up with him for some more details..



Oh, and very cool photos of the set! It's amazing that you were able to just stroll up and snap pictures without being harrassed!

as long as they keep Kate alive and in her underwear, they can kill off anybody else!

> as long as they keep Kate alive and in her underwear, they can kill off anybody else!

Why not her underwear, too? :p

Hong.

Thanks CPanther95, for editing my post with the spoiler alert... :)

I would've done it myself, but I didn't really think I was giving anything away... but I guess, in a sense, I might be giving something away... :)

The only reason I didn't talk to the guy at the time was because, for one, I didn't know If I should believe him... and two, I was in a hurry to get out of there and run some other errands... :)

I just wish my wife didn't work late on Wednesdays, but since she does, I have to wait until Thursday night to watch this show... :(

whats that last shot of? That stained glass looking thing.

If you are talking about the second to last shot :), IIRC, it looks like one of the partitions from inside the plane which I believe had that design on them.

ron

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Thanks CPanther95, for editing my post with the spoiler alert... :)

I would've done it myself, but I didn't really think I was giving anything away... but I guess, in a sense, I might be giving something away... :)

You weren't really, but who knows whether that description will be obvious once we see the character. Better safe than sorry.

Originally posted by CPanther95
You weren't really, but who knows whether that description will be obvious once we see the character. Better safe than sorry.

..at least for you folks on the right coast, see, I told you I wouldn't forget..:D

Jim

Originally posted by Barbarian
Hounsfield,

Thanks for posting that. What part of Hawaii is that? I was just there but missed my opportunity to see that. We were watching the filming of the show Hawaii in Waikiki.

It's up on the north shore, across from Dillingham Airfield. Instead of turning right to go toward Waimea Bay, you turn left and go past Waialua and Mokulea, toward Kaena Point. The paved road dead ends just beyond the set, so except for hikers and 4x4ers, there isn't too much traffic in that part of the island.

As R11 said, the "stained glass" in the photo looks like one of the Oceanic Airlines (http://www.deanebarker.net/wp/16) plexiglass partitions. Maybe we'll see later why it ended up in the tent? Or maybe the security guards were just screwing around and put it there? Who knows! :confused:

You should check out that link, btw... pretty interesting stuff!

Originally posted by Hounsfield
As R11 said, the "stained glass" in the photo looks like one of the Oceanic Airlines (http://www.deanebarker.net/wp/16) plexiglass partitions....You should check out that link, btw... pretty interesting stuff! That link leads to this one (http://www.aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=18187), which contains some seriously interesting comments from "the horse's mouth" (co-writer Damon Lindelof):
Cannibalism? Of COURSE it's contemplated... but summarily dismissed fairly early on....But don't be too disappointed -- just because they're not eating each other doesn't mean they can't be EATEN.The record speaketh true. NO dinosaurs. Will you get a look at the "thing in the trees" in the first 13 [episodes]? I'll only say this -- maybe you'll see it, maybe you won't... but you'll definitely know much more ABOUT it. So will they divide up? Absolutely. But not necessarily into teams of "good" and "evil."

I'll say this -- it takes a little while to figure out who falls into which of those categories... and once someone's defined as "good," it doesn't mean they'll STAY that way (see: Skywalker, Anakin).They will NOT name their island... but that's not to say they won't discover it already HAS a name.Neither the crash, nor anything else, is dictated by happenstance. As to ANOTHER major crash before season four? Hmmmm. Well, probably not another AIRLINER... but certainly something...In other words, will FIVE people perish over the first half of the season? Not gonna answer that one. I will say this -- the herd will be thinned, but that doesn't mean people have to die.We knew about NBC's show from the get-go (hell, I was the only one watching the thing back in 2001)... our concern was always more about WB's "Lost In Space," which could have caused some confusion had it been picked up.There were plans for a new Lost in Space!? Interesting....AICN: How old is Hurley?

DL: Hmmmm. Fascinating that you'd ask this. I would say he TELLS people he's 26.J.J. and I decided to have 48 people survive because we wanted to stock the show with as many possible story avenues as possible. As I recall, the network tried to talk us out of it.Greatest thing about the "other" castaways is that they can come forward for an episode, then melt back into the chorus. The popular thinking that their function is purely to be Red Shirts is grossly mistaken. In FACT...
We've always loved the idea that one of our series regs goes traipsing off into the jungle with one of the castaways we've never seen before. The audience is thinking the poor yahoo with one line is gonna die a gruesome and horrible death, but then it's the REGULAR who gets wiped out. It will be done. Watch and see. I will not comment on whether or not we'll be meeting any other human beings on the island who were NOT on the plane. But I will posit this -- Who's to say we haven't already?

QUESTION: Who haven't we spotted on the flashbacks?Shouldn't there be a "Cancel Seventh Heaven" website or something? Now THAT I would be into.Well, that's a bit harsh. He nor I may be interested in it, but it's not any more inane than [choose your reality show].

Xesdeeni

Good post X.

That's the interview I ran across right after the first ep when I posted that he said their intention wasn't to use the "extras" as monster fodder. I thought it was pretty interesting, especially some of the background stuff on him like his all time favorite shows list.

ron

Has anyone seen Hurley in the flashbacks?

Vlad-
That's what I was thinking, and IIRC, the answer is no. I believe there may be a few other possibilities also.

Or, maybe he just said that to throw another red herring into the mix :D.

ron

Wow, wasn't expecting that many hits... Exceeded my allowed bandwidth, so I've moved the LOST photo gallery to another host. Let's see how long this one lasts! :p

LOST ON LOCATION (http://lost-on-location.incohost.com/index.html)

Won't be checking back until tomorrow... don't want to catch any spoilers. Ironic that the show happens in my own backyard, but I'm the last to see it! ;)

Originally posted by Hounsfield
Wow, wasn't expecting that many hits... Exceeded my allowed bandwidth, so I've moved the LOST photo gallery to another host. Let's see how long this one lasts! :p

LOST ON LOCATION (http://lost-on-location.incohost.com/index.html)

Won't be checking back until tomorrow... don't want to catch any spoilers. Ironic that the show happens in my own backyard, but I'm the last to see it! ;) LOL on both reasons. :D Anyway thanks alot for the photos. ;)

Originally posted by Vlad_Dracule
Has anyone seen Hurley in the flashbacks?

That dude would have to have bought 2 tickets for as big as he is! Surely we should have spotted him in one of the flashbacks by now!?

Looks like the HD got "Lost" tonight. OTA Atlanta, SD.

I'm getting audio, but no video OTA. Watching it in SD on cable. Grrr.

help! I was trying to use the spoiler alert message, but it doesn't seem to be working.

[ spoiler]what am I doing wrong?[ /spoiler]

Audio in & out first few minutes here (Comcast South Jersey). Last week the audio & video was screwed up the first few minutes. What's the problem with this program???

We got HD after the first commercial, but the sound was popping really bad. I switched to regular cable till the next commercial, came back, full SD on the HD channel. Been that way ever since.

Walkabout.

Wow!

Is it October 20th yet?

Wow! I wasn't expecting that.

Well, this development with Locke just makes this show yet more engrossing than before. What the heck is happening, exactly?

Originally posted by Flyer1
help! I was trying to use the spoiler alert message, but it doesn't seem to be working.

what am I doing wrong?

Get rid of the spaces after the left brackets

I'm loving this show more and more every week!

So WTF is up with the guy in the suit???????????

Locke saw the monster yet he's is saying he didn't. Also, how did he get away?

He must have jolted something in his back in the crash for that miracle to have happened.

heres my guess

i dont think he killed the pig.. i bet the monster did and he just took it.. and im still going iwth the theory they are all dead.. they always mention how 3 days ago they all died.. and how is it a miracle occurs and Locke can now walk? so who knows..

CHris

Damn I love this show - that was one hell of a twist there. Nice call on the "walkabout"! I didn't catch the irony there.

I must say I agree 100% on the fact that the "monster" sounds very mechanical. Almost like it is steam powered...?

This is GREAT TELEVISION!!!! ABC has knocked one out of the park with this show.

Did anyone else expect Locke to unscrew the connectors of the cubicle he was in and push over the wall after his boss asked him for the TPS Reports? I think he forgot the cover sheet! "Damn it feels good to be a gangster..."

Great PQ and sound here in Tampa. Fantastic story as well. Seems like it was a little slow for a while, but what an unusual twist at the end. Can't wait till next week. :)

Originally posted by spiff72
Did anyone else expect Locke to unscrew the connectors of the cubicle he was in and push over the wall after his boss asked him for the TPS Reports? I think he forgot the cover sheet! "Damn it feels good to be a gangster..."

My wife and I busted out laughing when we heard TPS reports

The TPS reports would have been the best moment of a lesser series. But this show is just spectacular.

I agree that he likely scavanged the kill from the monster. But why the mystery? And why wasn't he attacked/injured?

Man what a good show.

Originally posted by CycloneGT
I agree that he likely scavanged the kill from the monster. But why the mystery? And why wasn't he attacked/injured?

Maybe something on the island "fixed" him. Perhaps the "it" or "they" on the island have a purpose in mind for him.

Also - I bet I know what the secret was that he told the kid.

We don't need to go spoiler crazy here. Only worry about any advanced info you may have. You heard something, met someone "in the know", etc. The people in the later time zones know not to read the LOST thread after it airs EST and before they've seen it.

Discussion of the show or raw speculation isn't a spoiler.

Medical Investigation and LAX have sucked, luckily the two shows I really wanted to see CSI NY and Lost have been kicking ass. Lost has me hooked, today's show had my wife going "what they aren't going to show the monster or let us learn something new just about the bald guy?" then they throw the big THING at the end and we were just sitting there with out mouth hanging open going "WHERE THE HECK ARE THEY TAKING US WITH THIS?!?!??!"

Now that's good TV.

Also the show looks fantastic in HD. My 2 cents.

How hard is it to drag a dead boar across an island?

- Tom

TPS Reports! BAH-HAHAHAHA! This show just keeps getting better…

Originally posted by trbarry
How hard is it to drag a dead boar across an island?

- Tom

150lbs of dead weight (no pun intended) with three limbs to get caught in the uneven ground/vines/shrubs etc.. pretty difficult I'd say.

Great PQ/Sound tonight and no drops!

WOW, I was about to throw in the towel on the series, but they redeemed themselves in the closing minutes! Whoever came up with the idea that the monster slayed the boar might be on to something, I think it's to early to tell anything. Personally, I think the way those trees were getting knocked down.. it is some type of machine, and if it was a creature he would've ran, ... just all speculation though, see y'all next week ;)

Great PQ as usual.

They cheated us by thowing Locke's wheelchair at us at the end of the episode, after showing the supposed invalid sitting in ordinary office and lunchroom chairs. (No bright blue armrests, no push-handles.)

I agree that Locke's quick transition to full walking mode (with hardly any pain or weakness) indicates the supernatural, or maybe a collective dream.

The creature seems very much like an elephant-sized Predator (as in Arnold's movie of the same name). Maybe it's just a dream too.

Why did the guy leave his son with the one person that doesn't speak English (when he went off to hunt and left his son with the Korean lady)?
Great episode though. Seems to be going in a metaphysical direction
(re the comments when the doc and the lady were walking back from where she had been sitting alone/the man in the suit/Locke).

Jack is the only one seeing the man in the suit and he hasn't slept in 4 days. I think it's just him hallucinating from sleep deprivation.

Originally posted by xris2o0o
heres my guess

i dont think he killed the pig.. i bet the monster did and he just took it.. and im still going iwth the theory they are all dead.. they always mention how 3 days ago they all died.. and how is it a miracle occurs and Locke can now walk? so who knows..

CHris

I agree that the monster/machine is what killed the pig. And when I first saw Locke in the wheelchair I had the same thought that maybe they were all dead, someone mentioned that before, at the time I didn't think that was it, but know I'm not sure. However, when they show previews from next week Locke says "I looked into the eye of this island and what I saw was magic" - makes me think there is something magical/supernatural about the island.
What's up with the guy in the suit that Jack started seeing?? Reminds me of the game Half-Life, anyone ever played it??

Originally posted by Syzygy


I agree that Locke's quick transition to full walking mode (with hardly any pain or weakness) indicates the supernatural, or maybe a collective dream.



His disability could very well have been psychological and not physical, the emotional trauma of thinking you are going to die in a plane crash probably wiped out any thoughts of his problem that he had in his brain.

Jim

Originally posted by SD4934
Why did the guy leave his son with the one person that doesn't speak English (when he went off to hunt and left his son with the Korean lady)?


That part seemed so ridiculous there has to be a reason we don't know yet..

And where was her husband this week?

Jim

Ok ok ok. First of all, SHOOT THE SNOBBY CHICK!! Then get to the point and stop dragging on this show for days and days and days. What have we seen in 4 episodes that could not have been told in 14 mins of episode 1? The flashbacks annoy the crap outa me. Save that crap for later, after people start caring about the characters, right now I could careless about some cripple and the hot chick runnin from johnny law! AND WHY ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE SO #$s DAMN SECRECTIVE!!! uh yah i saw a monster but ill keep it a secret. hey we saw a pilot in a tree and we keep it secret too! hey i know that my husband is not dead but thats a secret. i ran from the cops, but its asecret. i saw a guy in a suit in the bushes, but SHHH!! im on drugs, dont tell!! im a dude who looks like a terrorist and knows how to build homing devices out of spare computer parts, ok not secetative but a little too gillagan for me.

THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS SHOW IS THE COMMERCIALS WE GET TO WATCH EVERY 30 SECONDS!!! woohoo!!! The real mystery of this show is how the hell did network tv rope us all into watching a prime time soap opera??

Johnny

Originally posted by dmbatch
Jack is the only one seeing the man in the suit and he hasn't slept in 4 days. I think it's just him hallucinating from sleep deprivation.

I agree with that, and if it turns out his doctor father died sometime in the past, I think it could be him. And Jack not wanting to attend the memorial service is probably related too.

Is it just me, or is anyone finding it just a bit irritating that they've gone so many episodes without revealing the "monster"? I mean, you can only take the mystery so far...

Originally posted by bdb
Is it just me, or is anyone finding it just a bit irritating that they've gone so many episodes without revealing the "monster"? I mean, you can only take the mystery so far...

I feel just the opposite ... the longer they can keep the "monster" a mystery the better. One of the big appeals of the first "Alien" movie was the fact that they did not reveal the "monster" until near the end.

So, it is not at all irritating to me ... it just adds to the appeal of the program.

I havent read anything since Page 40... why you ask? Because I missed tonights episode and to top it all off they arent replaying it on saturday....... sigh....... wish I was rich so I could afford TIVO. I mean I spent 9 hours on the damn combine today but made jack all for it.

Ya know, I really like this TV show but I love drunkpenguin's posts. I really gotta kick out of his last 2 posts. I am still laughing.

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
Ok ok ok. First of all, SHOOT THE SNOBBY CHICK!! Then get to the point and stop dragging on this show for days and days and days. What have we seen in 4 episodes that could not have been told in 14 mins of episode 1? The flashbacks annoy the crap outa me. Save that crap for later, after people start caring about the characters, right now I could careless about some cripple and the hot chick runnin from johnny law! AND WHY ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE SO #$s DAMN SECRECTIVE!!! uh yah i saw a monster but ill keep it a secret. hey we saw a pilot in a tree and we keep it secret too! hey i know that my husband is not dead but thats a secret. i ran from the cops, but its asecret. i saw a guy in a suit in the bushes, but SHHH!! im on drugs, dont tell!! im a dude who looks like a terrorist and knows how to build homing devices out of spare computer parts, ok not secetative but a little too gillagan for me.

THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS SHOW IS THE COMMERCIALS WE GET TO WATCH EVERY 30 SECONDS!!! woohoo!!! The real mystery of this show is how the hell did network tv rope us all into watching a prime time soap opera??

Johnny I'm thinking you're not the target audience for the show....

This is about the characters and the flashbacks give backstory. Otherwise they'd be cardboard cutouts. Everyone's mysterious because apparently several of the characters have a few skeletons in the closet, which probably makes them suspicious of what others might be hiding.

everyone i know seems to think they are on some sort of evil island but i disagree, lets examine some of the people so far, crippled guy now can walk, The girl going to prison is now free and from the way they make it seem she was not guilty of anything really, the guy and his son who never knew each other now get to know each other better, the drug addict according to thet next few episodes will go through withdrawl but since there won't be any drugs for him he will kick his habbit, they have not gone into detail about the others yet but i see a pattern. obviously there are some unexplained things like the woman who thinks her husband is still alive and of course the people who died in the crash but i think a good thing has happened to these people, i think the monster is there to make the audience believe the opposite,just a theory.

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
Ok ok ok. First of all, SHOOT THE SNOBBY CHICK!! Then get to the point and stop dragging on this show for days and days and days. What have we seen in 4 episodes that could not have been told in 14 mins of episode 1? The flashbacks annoy the crap outa me. Save that crap for later, after people start caring about the characters, right now I could careless about some cripple and the hot chick runnin from johnny law! AND WHY ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE SO #$s DAMN SECRECTIVE!!! uh yah i saw a monster but ill keep it a secret. hey we saw a pilot in a tree and we keep it secret too! hey i know that my husband is not dead but thats a secret. i ran from the cops, but its asecret. i saw a guy in a suit in the bushes, but SHHH!! im on drugs, dont tell!! im a dude who looks like a terrorist and knows how to build homing devices out of spare computer parts, ok not secetative but a little too gillagan for me.

THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS SHOW IS THE COMMERCIALS WE GET TO WATCH EVERY 30 SECONDS!!! woohoo!!! The real mystery of this show is how the hell did network tv rope us all into watching a prime time soap opera??

Johnny

So don't watch. It doesn't take a very bright person to be able to change the channel of something they don't like.

They have made it quite obvious that they aren't trying for a realistic drama. There are twists and turns in the plot. Your logic of getting it done in 14 minutes is one of the big problems in all of Hollywood right now. If you have that short an attention span and can't handle flashbacks for deeper character development just watch Spongebob where you get a complete, tidy plot every 15 minutes.

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
Ok ok ok. First of all, SHOOT THE SNOBBY CHICK!! Then get to the point and stop dragging on this show for days and days and days. What have we seen in 4 episodes that could not have been told in 14 mins of episode 1? The flashbacks annoy the crap outa me. Save that crap for later, after people start caring about the characters, right now I could careless about some cripple and the hot chick runnin from johnny law! AND WHY ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE SO #$s DAMN SECRECTIVE!!! uh yah i saw a monster but ill keep it a secret. hey we saw a pilot in a tree and we keep it secret too! hey i know that my husband is not dead but thats a secret. i ran from the cops, but its asecret. i saw a guy in a suit in the bushes, but SHHH!! im on drugs, dont tell!! im a dude who looks like a terrorist and knows how to build homing devices out of spare computer parts, ok not secetative but a little too gillagan for me.

You do realize this is a TV show right?????

I'm still interested in what the woman who was sitting alone said about her husband being alive...

Great show!!!

Originally posted by shades
everyone i know seems to think they are on some sort of evil island but i disagree, lets examine some of the people so far, crippled guy now can walk, The girl going to prison is now free and from the way they make it seem she was not guilty of anything really, the guy and his son who never knew each other now get to know each other better, the drug addict according to thet next few episodes will go through withdrawl but since there won't be any drugs for him he will kick his habbit, they have not gone into detail about the others yet but i see a pattern. obviously there are some unexplained things like the woman who thinks her husband is still alive and of course the people who died in the crash but i think a good thing has happened to these people, i think the monster is there to make the audience believe the opposite,just a theory.

didn't put all that together but I think you're on the right path there. But I still have to think about what others are saying, that everyone could possibly be dead. You have Locke, who all of a sudden starts walking on the island. When asked if he got a good look of the monster, which "seemed" to be right in front of him, which is why he was looking up just before the commercial, makes it seem that the creature didn't kill him, but took over his body. Kind of like Invasion of the body snatchers. Locke is clearly trapped in his body, which is how he is able to still have recollections of when he was able to walk again, and when he was in the office with the bus waiting outside. Whatever took over his body apparently doesn't allow him to communicate, which is why the new Locke said he saw absolutely nothing. The new Locke is able to read the original Locke's thoughts, which is why he came back with the dead boar.

Going with this body snatcher theory, could be that a dinosaur(s) is on the island, this "thing" overtook it's body back when, and has been able to keep it alive. Maybe the crash from 16 years ago was carrying exotic animals like the Polar Bear and wild boards, and has overtaken their bodies as well. This maybe the magic of the island referred to in the coming attractions.

on a side note, my wife also made the comment, "enough already, are they ever going to show this monster ?", and her final thought when the show ended "this show just gets weirder and weirder".

good stuff

Originally posted by Vlad_Dracule
I havent read anything since Page 40... why you ask? Because I missed tonights episode and to top it all off they arent replaying it on saturday....... sigh....... wish I was rich so I could afford TIVO. I mean I spent 9 hours on the damn combine today but made jack all for it.

A combine as in you're a farmer?

If true, how the heck can you afford to live, much less have an HDTV.:D

A cheap VCR will do the trick.

Originally posted by CycloneGT
A cheap VCR will do the trick.

Oh should have mentioned..... I'm an HD junkie. Basically if its not in HD, I dont watch it.

A great alternative to an HD TIVO is to put a $150 HDTV tuner card in your PC and save the HD datastream to your hard drive. Very easy and it works great. The GUI that comes with the card allows you configure unattended recordings. You can then play them back at your leisure at full HD picture quality. If you have the time and desire you can even edit the stored datastream and delete the commercials.

My thoughts after the end of the show were, first, I think Lumberg's gonna ask me to come in on Saturday, I just know it. Oh yeah, and during one of the commercials, I flipped over to channel 9, did any of you guys catch it? The breast exam again! :)

Also, who says Locke has been paralyzed his whole life? If that were the case, it would have been impossible for him to get up and immediately start running. What if he had recently had some major accident that left him paralyzed, so he still knew how to walk and everything. That seems more plausible, maybe they'll flash back to how he became paralyzed in the first place, but I doubt it.

And as far as the Korean lady goes, being in charge of the boy, I don't think I would hesitate to ask her to look after him. I mean, it was fairly easy to explain to her what the dad wanted her to do, where he was going, and she looks very trustworthy, and very capable, so I don't think the language barrier would have anything to do with it. THe only other woman there that I would have asked would be the pregnant girl, but she wasn't "right there" at the time. The black woman was off by herself, the other blonde is a moron, and Kate was going on the trek with them, so he only had 2 choices basically.

And then accidentally upload them to the internet? :)



Johnny

I agree, its a little slow, but I am in it for the duration! This is the only show this year I am saving all episodes from my Fusion III.
Loved the TPS reports line! (Of course had to explain the Office Space reference to wifie!)
It hadn't dawned on me, but the dream/they are all dead theory is a good one. Especially with Locke already talking about miracles and something magical happening.

Don't mean to gloat but....took my wife out for her birthday dinner and a movie, then came home and watched LOST on the HDDVR supplied by my cable company! WooHoo! Fast forwarding through the commercials...priceless, but you still see how many there are.

In hindsight, Locke's comments about a miracle are much less ominous now. While it may still reflect him knowing more about what's going on, it could just as easily be isolated to his own personal miracle.

I think the title "lost" is a reference to them losing the real script. so they stole as much content from other films and shows as they could find.

lets see...

*tps reports = office space (actually that whole scene was practically out of office space)
*jurasic park = loud thumping dinosaurs that you can't see (i was waiting for someone to look down at a puddle)
*gilligans island = i am a terrorist who no more make bomb, me make walky talkie from spoons and beach sand!
*castaway = obvious reasons, instead of Wilson we get a Cute Doggy
*lord of the flies, survivor, and everything in between = eventually they will form teams and fight eachother, it has been foreseen
*6th sense = i see dead people, but nobody else, only me! and i'm not telling
*The Island of Doctor Moreau = obvisously there is a master mind f'ing with these people
*days of our lives = we will see some major bed hopping soon! tune in next week to find out that the pregnant chicks baby has a father on the island! But who could it be? Watch next week for the most shocking Days, err, Lost since the last most shocking episode, last week
*
*AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST...

*90210 = apparently nobody ugly flies the friendly skies anymore, of course even 90210 had 1 unpopular kid, but they killed him off, poor fat guy has a short future

***stay tuned for more predictions and witty comments from the most entertaining individual this side of the internet. Coming soon to a forum near you!


Johnny

Originally posted by ucsbgaucho
And as far as the Korean lady goes, being in charge of the boy, I don't think I would hesitate to ask her to look after him. ... THe only other woman there ... so he only had 2 choices basically.
Why did it have to be a woman? :p

The dialog with the walkabout guide included the info that Locke had been disabled for 4 years. Believe me, he's not getting up and taking a hike on leg muscles that haven't been used in 4 years. This show is either filled with bad science or the whole thing is a dream or alternate universe. That might be okay for a 2 hour movie but not for a series. That plus the slow story development is making me lose interest.

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
I think the title "lost" is a reference to them losing the real script. so they stole as much content from other films and shows as they could find.

lets see...

*tps reports = office space (actually that whole scene was practically out of office space)
*jurasic park = loud thumping dinosaurs that you can't see (i was waiting for someone to look down at a puddle)
*gilligans island = i am a terrorist who no more make bomb, me make walky talkie from spoons and beach sand!
*castaway = obvious reasons, instead of Wilson we get a Cute Doggy
*lord of the flies, survivor, and everything in between = eventually they will form teams and fight eachother, it has been foreseen
*6th sense = i see dead people, but nobody else, only me! and i'm not telling
*The Island of Doctor Moreau = obvisously there is a master mind f'ing with these people
*days of our lives = we will see some major bed hopping soon! tune in next week to find out that the pregnant chicks baby has a father on the island! But who could it be? Watch next week for the most shocking Days, err, Lost since the last most shocking episode, last week
*
*AND LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST...

*90210 = apparently nobody ugly flies the friendly skies anymore, of course even 90210 had 1 unpopular kid, but they killed him off, poor fat guy has a short future

***stay tuned for more predictions and witty comments from the most entertaining individual this side of the internet. Coming soon to a forum near you!


Johnny

Too, funny and you are right. When the "Weight Challenged" guy and the druggie guy were trying to catch fish I kept thinking that the producers saw too much of Survivor and decided to copy it.

Originally posted by PhredC
.... just watch Spongebob where you get a complete, tidy plot every 15 minutes.

Actually, every 11 minutes. :D Squidward (in a nasally voice) "Why is it something bad happens to me every 11 minutes of my life?"

Sorry, very off topic there.

Enjoying this show a lot. One thing that's irritating me on this show is that some of the characters are just WAY over the top. i.e. Locke's boss. Come on, who is so bad that they actually spend their days insulting/berating a guy in a wheel chair? Then there's the whiny blond, enough said. The writers need to tone down the caricatures a bit.

Originally posted by ucsbgaucho
...
Also, who says Locke has been paralyzed his whole life? If that were the case, it would have been impossible for him to get up and immediately start running. What if he had recently had some major accident that left him paralyzed, so he still knew how to walk and everything. That seems more plausible, maybe they'll flash back to how he became paralyzed in the first place, but I doubt it. ...

He hasn't. He told the Australian tour operator that he has been dealing with his "condition" for the last 4 years.

I wonder if he ever did his walkabout, or did he leave Australia right away? Maybe this adventure is replacing what he was told he could not do. They went to great length to make the point that he is a common if not lowly paper pusher with fantasies (or delusions) of grandeur...The phone call he took in the first flashback on the "secure" line...calling him Colonel. He is clearly loving the adventure of it all.

Originally posted by shades
everyone i know seems to think they are on some sort of evil island but i disagree, lets examine some of the people so far, crippled guy now can walk, The girl going to prison is now free and from the way they make it seem she was not guilty of anything really, the guy and his son who never knew each other now get to know each other better, the drug addict according to thet next few episodes will go through withdrawl but since there won't be any drugs for him he will kick his habbit, they have not gone into detail about the others yet but i see a pattern. obviously there are some unexplained things like the woman who thinks her husband is still alive and of course the people who died in the crash but i think a good thing has happened to these people, i think the monster is there to make the audience believe the opposite,just a theory.

Here's the only problem i see with this theory- the monster couldn't be there just to make the audience believe becuase, if you recall from the first episode, the monster killed the pilot. This is no Big Friendly Giant that everyone is misunderstanding.

It really does seem like this is some magic island, and that the writers figure that they can do anything they want cause, Hey, its magic! They can create people out of thin air and monsters and all sorts of craziness cause, Hey, its magic!

Not that thats a bad thing.

I like the slow development of the primary storyline. If they can keep coming up with side (or background) stories that are interesting and keep me looking forward to the next week, that's all I care about.

I must have missed the sponge bob reference. Beleive me, if the 2 shows were on at the same time I would choose sponge bob. I really think the druggie guy would "appreciate" the show, know what I mean? :D

Hey another point I forgot to make. Would you like to hear it? Say please! Ok, I will tell you..

For a rock star that dude sure does buy some bad drugs. They don't seem to make him high, wired, or sleepy. So what the hell kind of drug is he taking? Tylenol?

Now back to your regularly scheduled program..


Johnny

those saying that this show sucks because it doesn't follow laws of science, you have to realize this is a TV show, it's not friggin news report. TV like other types of media are to stimulate your brain. If you're looking for a soap opera turn to the O.C on Fox or the Soap Channel. If you're looking for non-stop action that has no plot line and doesn't like to show stories of characters, rent or buy any of Steven Sommers films (see Van Helsing, any Mummy movie with Brendan Fraser, etc).

I like the tone of the show, it's definitely different, which is one of the reasons I think I like it.

that's my 2 cents.

prepare to FLAME!!

Originally posted by ucsbgaucho
And as far as the Korean lady goes, being in charge of the boy, I don't think I would hesitate to ask her to look after him.

He saw her boobs. He likes her.

There's a message board on the ABC page and a guy claims that he freeze framed a few scenes where you could see the watches people were wearing and they all are stopped at 3:15, which lead to a whole bunch of bible quotes. Can anyone confirm this? ABC is the one network HD channel I don't get.

Last night's episode was one of those rare moments when the wife actually appreciated the HT as much as I do.
Wife: What's that noise from the back of the room?
Me: It's the sound of the ocean from the speakers behind you.
Wife: Cool.

Hey, it's the LITTLE things in life....

consider yourself flamed! or maybe not, im kinda tired.

anyway, i think most of our complaints are the fact that its not very believalbe the way they are telling it. Many sci-fi shows had unbelievable content but told it in a way that made it compelling, interesting, and you found yourself rooting for the characters. Does anyone give a rats ass if they make it off the island? Atleast with gilligan you kinda sorta back in your head wanted them to get off, even tho you knew giligan would just sink the boat! Quantum Leap, Star Trek, both pretty impossible scenarios but they made it feel llike it could really happen. The people in the stories were real people, not characutures of "the real world".

I think audiences are a little smarter these days, atleast some of us. And if your going to make us sit through 97 comercials in a 1 hour time span you better present a flawless TV show! Otherwise they are smackin you in your face and yelling "DON'T FORGET TO DRINK YOUR OVALTINE!" and meanwhile as you drool yourself to sleep on the couch with visions of AT&T dancing in your head the execs at whatever channel this is on are laughing at you, drinking champagne worth more than your car, and planning next years big hit, "Comerical TV", 59 minutes of comercials for an excing new 1 minute show!"


Johnny (ok this one gave me a headache, I guess I'll go find something else to do for a while)

Originally posted by HiDef Bob
I feel just the opposite ... the longer they can keep the "monster" a mystery the better. One of the big appeals of the first "Alien" movie was the fact that they did not reveal the "monster" until near the end.Actually, "Aliens" did have glimpses of it (since that's all the crew saw), and revealed it completely after about an hour and a half - again, at the point that those left (just Ripley, IIRC) saw it in its entirety.

In the last episode of "Lost", they see it but you don't. Not the same at all.

Originally posted by greywolf
The dialog with the walkabout guide included the info that Locke had been disabled for 4 years. Believe me, he's not getting up and taking a hike on leg muscles that haven't been used in 4 years. This show is either filled with bad science or the whole thing is a dream or alternate universe. That might be okay for a 2 hour movie but not for a series. That plus the slow story development is making me lose interest.

Just because someone uses a wheelchair doesn't mean that are confined to it 24/7. Many people use wheel chairs who can walk for short distances, or least are going thru physical therapy what stimulates the muscles.

At any rate, I've chosen to ignore most implausibilities in this show and enjoy it for what it is: ENTERTAINMENT, TV SHOW, FICTION (take your pick).

Originally posted by greywolf
The dialog with the walkabout guide included the info that Locke had been disabled for 4 years. Believe me, he's not getting up and taking a hike on leg muscles that haven't been used in 4 years. This show is either filled with bad science or the whole thing is a dream or alternate universe. That might be okay for a 2 hour movie but not for a series. That plus the slow story development is making me lose interest.

Yes, and I've heard others complain about that too, but you have to accept a particular show or movie's reality, or you may as well not watch at all. Generally, if a show sets me up with one expectation of how things will go, and what is plausible in their world, I can accept it for the duration of the show. Just don't start off making it seem like everything is all technically accurate and legitimate the whole way and then try to pull off something that doesn't fit late in the game.

Don't go to a James Bond movie and then complain that you can't really wrestle another man's parachute off his back and put it on to save yourself while plummenting towards earth at 200 mph. That's just the type of movie it is. With Lost, much like Abrams' other show, Alias, you know you're going to get a mysterious and incredible, and not altogether realistic adventure.

As far as bad science, there are web sites devoted to pointing out these type of innacuracies, and they are in virtually every TV show and movie. Don't watch a medical show with a doctor, and don't watch The Sopranos with a mobster (for multiple reasons :D) People with real knowledge will rip them apart.

I like the slow and complex story development myself. I find it intriguing that there is something to discover every week. The risk is of course that there won't be a worthwhile payoff or resolution.

Perfect example...Twin Peaks. Started off great...lots of things to discover along the way...mysterious and interesting...and somewhere along the way, it fell apart. It was almost like they only had it written halfway and had to come up with something to wrap it up. I certainly am hoping for better here...

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
And if your going to make us sit through 97 comercials in a 1 hour time span you better present a flawless TV show!

So I'm guessing you've been kidnapped and your abductor had the decency to put a TV in front of you but didn't give you the remote so you could just change the channel.

At least he gave you Internet access.

The part I find funniest (other than you guys analysing a fictional drama) is that there are like 30 people who've done nothing but wander around in the background and dig through the garbage. They're either equivalent to the anonymous security guards who used to get killed off every week on Star Trek, or they're just not hot enough to care about. :)

I'm thinking that Locke has a bond with or partially is whatever is "out there".

Still thinking this is like the old Sci-Fi, "Forbidden Planet".

Locke, in his rage and fantasy, has created the situation and environment.

By golly, he's getting his "walkabout".

I'm having too much fun with this series. I'm glad that they aren't rushing things. If this was the "Locke" episode, then so be it. I don't need this whole show wrapped up in two hours. I hope it lasts several seasons.

Right on! The fun in this show is how it's unfolding -- not quite like 24, but close.

It's not the destination -- it's the ride getting there.

Please tell me ONE tv show out there that doesnt have parts of it taken from other shows... Can there EVER been a completely original show anymore that doesnt remind you of any other show? c'mon now! just cuz parts of it resemble other shows doesnt mean its not the most original show in a long time!

***stay tuned for more predictions and witty comments from the most entertaining individual this side of the internet. Coming soon to a forum near you!Puuleese :rolleyes:


Actually, "Aliens" did have glimpses of it (since that's all the crew saw), and revealed it completely after about an hour and a half - again, at the point that those left (just Ripley, IIRC) saw it in its entirety.

In the last episode of "Lost", they see it but you don't. Not the same at all.Aliens was a two hour movie bdb. This is an ongoing series. Not the same thing at all :D.


Yes, and I've heard others complain about that too, but you have to accept a particular show or movie's reality, or you may as well not watch at all. Generally, if a show sets me up with one expectation of how things will go, and what is plausible in their world, I can accept it for the duration of the show. Just don't start off making it seem like everything is all technically accurate and legitimate the whole way and then try to pull off something that doesn't fit late in the game.

Don't go to a James Bond movie and then complain that you can't really wrestle another man's parachute off his back and put it on to save yourself while plummenting towards earth at 200 mph. That's just the type of movie it is. With Lost, much like Abrams' other show, Alias, you know you're going to get a mysterious and incredible, and not altogether realistic adventure.

As far as bad science, there are web sites devoted to pointing out these type of innacuracies, and they are in virtually every TV show and movie. Don't watch a medical show with a doctor, and don't watch The Sopranos with a mobster (for multiple reasons ) People with real knowledge will rip them apart.

I like the slow and complex story development myself. I find it intriguing that there is something to discover every week. The risk is of course that there won't be a worthwhile payoff or resolution.

Perfect example...Twin Peaks. Started off great...lots of things to discover along the way...mysterious and interesting...and somewhere along the way, it fell apart. It was almost like they only had it written halfway and had to come up with something to wrap it up. I certainly am hoping for better here...Exactly! Including your final thought. Clearly this show is not for everyone. People who like off-beat, strangeness will love it. People who have strict guidelines and want things in a regimented, by-the-book way, and want things all neatly wrapped up every week will not.

ron

Originally posted by ucsbgaucho
Please tell me ONE tv show out there that doesnt have parts of it taken from other shows... Can there EVER been a completely original show anymore that doesnt remind you of any other show? c'mon now! just cuz parts of it resemble other shows doesnt mean its not the most original show in a long time! Especially when (at least) some of those elements are obviously thrown in there just to be recognizable. I love 'em!

ron

Every time I watch I wonder what they're going to reveal this week. My attention span does not require everything to be wrapped up in a nice neat package. I love shows that keep you in suspense and string you along. I did not see the wheelchair coming when it was revealed. It was great. I admire any show that can surprise me. There are way too many shows out there where you know what is going to happen, or you know exactly what's about to come out of somebody's mouth. Carnivale is another great show that reveals a small piece of the puzzel every week. I'm looking forward to its return. In the meantime I have Lost.

I'm sure the goal is to make the audience feel just as "lost" as the characters are. The show is inviting audience participation (as seen in this thread). My wife states that the show isn't long enough and that it's over too quickly. Mission accomplished.

I agree w/ your wife 100%.

Originally posted by Flyer1

What's up with the guy in the suit that Jack started seeing?? Reminds me of the game Half-Life, anyone ever played it??

I think this points to their being in some kind of game/simulation. The guy in the suit is one of those running the sim. His being visible to Jack is a glitch in the software.

You can tear apart the show, but no other show is closing in on 1000 posts.

Anyone care to take a guess at who's the guy in the suit that Jack sees.

My thoery is that he's probably a former patient of his who died and ended or forever changed his career. If you think about it, everybody's suppose to get a clean slate right.

Guess we'll find out during his flashbacks.

Originally posted by barth2k
I think this points to their being in some kind of game/simulation. The guy in the suit is one of those running the sim. His being visible to Jack is a glitch in the software.

I can virtually guarantee that this is not the case. No way would they even attempt a 'Matrix' rip off like this.

Anyone care to take a guess at who's the guy in the suit that Jack sees.
I say it's his father.

But why was the guy in the suit wearing tennis shoes? That is the greater mystery.

For those frustrated with the slow unfolding of events, LOST is nothing compared to HBO's Carnivale! But there is a "fine line" between being held in suspense and coming back for more and more and more...until you lose interest. This is the problem Carnivale is now having to overcome (initially viewers were intrigued by the mystery but many have stopped watching because the writers were not revealing enough soon enough). LOST may share the same fate....let's hope not. I like LOST and so do many others. It's the number one topic in the office on Thursday mornings!!

Let's just hope the writers don't rip off Dallas and in the last episode reveal it was all someone's dream...that was the worst way to tie up loose ends in the history of TV.

I too thought why is the guy trying to explain about watching his son to the Korean lady...just pick one of the other 40 folks we haven't met yet that actually speak English

Originally posted by Dynot
Anyone care to take a guess at who's the guy in the suit that Jack sees.

My theory is that he's probably a former patient of his who died and ended or forever changed his career. If you think about it, everybody's suppose to get a clean slate right.

Guess we'll find out during his flashbacks.

I think it's his father. I also still think Jack is just hallucinating from sleep deprivation. I think I heard him say last night that he hadn't slept since the crash.

Originally posted by GrantMeThePower
But why was the guy in the suit wearing tennis shoes? That is the greater mystery.

Could it be David Letterman in HD finally?

Letterman is too tall. More likely Larry "Bud" Melman

Originally posted by shades
... the drug addict according to thet next few episodes will go through withdrawl but since there won't be any drugs for him he will kick his habbit...

...or maybe he will kick the "hobbit"?

MIB

Believe me, he's not getting up and taking a hike on leg muscles that haven't been used in 4 years.

I think that's why he termed it a "miracle."

And if that's not good enough to explain it, Jesus healed the man who had been paralyzed for years. As he did so, his first task for the man was to pick up his bed and carry it out...and so the man did. Unscientific? Again, this is the "miraculous" part of it.

I did not see the wheelchair coming when it was revealed. It was greatExactly! It was one of those rare "sixth sense ending" kinds of moments for us. (At least for those who didn't have it spoiled). We loved it. We're still unsure whether this is a supernatural fantasy or a down-to-earth drama, but we're enjoying the ride either way.
But why was the guy in the suit wearing tennis shoes? That is the greater mystery. The episode description indicated that Jack is suffering from the beginning effects of sleep depravation.

-- Rob

I think its been established (or they're trying to establish) that this island isn't a normal island, so things that happen outside the bounds of reason are to be expected:

The unborn baby that may have ben dead, is now, apparently, alive
The man who couldn't walk is now walking

The way things are going it may have been a mistake to burn the bodies.

I'm sure there's more to come.

Originally posted by Paul Bigelow
I'm sure there's more to come.

Pippin shows up to help Charlie find more drugs

j.j. abrams was interviewed on npr today.

http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml;jsessionid=T5WEAX2ZNOE51LA5AINSFFA?todayDate=cu rrent

I acutally wouldnt be surprised to find out at some point the asian lady speaks english or understands it..

chris

Originally posted by xris2o0o
I acutally wouldnt be surprised to find out at some point the asian lady speaks english or understands it..

chris

I liked when the Asian lady tried to speak to the kid and he said "Yeah, whatever". That was priceless at that moment.

I haven't read thru the last couple of pages but has anyone figured out whom the women was that Locke was talking with on the phone during one of his flashbacks? I figure that at 89.00 per hour she had to be one of those 1-900 Dial for Sex gals. Locke must have had a good job b/c paying 89.00 per hour for 9 months is a heck of alot of money.

Originally posted by AFH
[B I figure that at 89.00 per hour she had to be one of those 1-900 Dial for Sex gals. Locke must have had a good job b/c paying 89.00 per hour for 9 months is a heck of alot of money. [/B]

I think there's pretty much no doubt that you are right..:p

Jim

Originally posted by AFH
I haven't read thru the last couple of pages but has anyone figured out whom the women was that Locke was talking with on the phone during one of his flashbacks? I figure that at 89.00 per hour she had to be one of those 1-900 Dial for Sex gals. Locke must have had a good job b/c paying 89.00 per hour for 9 months is a heck of alot of money.

I just wonder how Antonio knows so much about the subject.


:D

Originally posted by drunkpenguin
I think the title "lost" is a reference to them losing the real script. so they stole as much content from other films and shows as they could find.

lets see...

...
*lord of the flies...

Johnny

I disagree that they borrowed from Lord of the Flies.

That story was about survivors of a plane crash who landed on a lush tropical island. There was a leader who had a weight challenged sidekick and a character who offered to hunt for food [wild boars]. The group of survivors were threatened by a "monster" that turned out not to be what it seemed.

:D

Originally posted by PJO1966
I just wonder how Antonio knows so much about the subject.


:D

I know somethings, but not alot about 1-900 Dial for sex. I mean how does that work? What are you supposed to do while you're on the phone? I mean I don't get it! :D

Apparently, you make plans to go on great safaris with the women on the other end.

Johnny

Originally posted by AFH
I haven't read thru the last couple of pages but has anyone figured out whom the women was that Locke was talking with on the phone during one of his flashbacks? I figure that at 89.00 per hour she had to be one of those 1-900 Dial for Sex gals. Locke must have had a good job b/c paying 89.00 per hour for 9 months is a heck of alot of money.

And seeing as how he was a low-level cube dweller it's hard to believe he could afford those calls very often and still pay for a trip to Austrailia.

Originally posted by fhall1
And seeing as how he was a low-level cube dweller it's hard to believe he could afford those calls very often and still pay for a trip to Austrailia.

Yeah, that too!

He doesn't strike me as a guy with much of a life - at least for the last 4 years. Probably not much debt either.

Originally posted by fhall1
And seeing as how he was a low-level cube dweller it's hard to believe he could afford those calls very often and still pay for a trip to Austrailia.

I assume that since they called him Colonel , that he was in the military which means he's getting a good pension.

Originally posted by Couch Patato
I assume that since they called him Colonel , that he was in the military which means he's getting a good pension.

I am pretty sure that he wasn't in the military - his boss made that clear in the lunchroom. He is just called colonel because of the game he played with his coworker at lunch.

If you were being sarcastic, please disregard this message! :D

Thanks,
Jeff

Maybe Locke received a large settletment from whatever put him in that wheelchair.

Originally posted by PBM8
Maybe Locke received a large settletment from whatever put him in that wheelchair.

That would be my guess, physical or psychological. OTOH, there are people who can save money no matter what the hardship entails. Wish I knew how they did it. :p

Jim

If I have to see that completely unrealistic jet engine running again, I am going to puke!!!

I'm still enjoying the show, which of course still makes me sure that ABC will cancel it. But now I think of it as Canterbury Tales on the Forbidden Planet.

- Tom

Whew!! I didn't watch last night's show until tonight, and so just now got caught up to speed in this thread, didn't want any spoilers first! ;) Man, what is in store next! Lots of great speculation going on. Locke's miracle explains a lot about his behavior on the island, such as how he seemed to be reveling in the rainstorm (and life in general) in week one. One thing that struck me, however, is in the first episode he is seen on the plane sitting directly behind Rose, who was next to Jack. If he was wheelchair bound before the crash, he most likely would not be in a regular seat like that, but rather in the front of the section where there is more room for handicapped people and it is easier to get into and out of. Could just be an oversight by the producers, but interesting nonetheless. Also, what WAS he doing with a suitcase full of knives?
So far, I think there has only been two characters shown "coming to" immediately after the crash, Jack and Locke. I think there is something rather strange about the way that is depicted, kind of like a re-awakening, maybe it's just me.

I didn't notice a widescreen TV (RPTV, plasma or FPTV) in Locke's apartment.

He used his salary wisely on Adventure Trips and phone companions.

Fans of 'Alias' knows that J.J. Abrams is a master of the build-up. I'm not worried that we haven't gotten any answers only 3 episodes into the series... the pay-offs will come eventually, but character development has to come first.

" If he was wheelchair bound before the crash, he most likely would not be in a regular seat like that, but rather in the front of the section where there is more room for handicapped people and it is easier to get into and out of. Could just be an oversight by the producers, but interesting nonetheless."

I dunno. I fly a fair amount and see people in wheelcharis on plains fairly regularly. They are not in the bulkhead very often, if at all. That's a "premium" seat on American, for example. There are many seats that are "handicapped rated".

Anyway, this show is great so far. JJ Abrams is terrific at giving us enough to move the story and leaving us in enough suspense. I actually started watching the ep, went out for food and as I was walking back said, "Oh my! Locke couldn't walk and that's his miracle. Didn't make it any less exciting to actually see that revelaed.

That's what a great show does.

Incidentally, I drive by "Melbourne Walkabout Tours" everyday on my way to the gym. It's actually an art gallery in downtown Honolulu, on the corner of Nuuanu Avenue and King Street. When I saw the sign painted on the window several months ago, I figured it was "art," maybe part of an Australian-themed exhibit. :D

Then there's the whiny blond, enough said. The writers need to tone down the caricatures a bit. [/B]

Whiny blonds (brunettes, redheads) are all over the place in real life!

FYI The asian lady and her husband are Korean. I know I spent 30 months stationed in Seoul.

Originally posted by bdb
The part I find funniest (other than you guys analysing a fictional drama) is that there are like 30 people who've done nothing but wander around in the background and dig through the garbage.

Jumped out at me too. Wish some of them would jump out and join the movie. Only Jack can do anything (and everything), it seems.

Originally posted by labmansid
Locke's miracle explains a lot about his behavior on the island, such as how he seemed to be reveling in the rainstorm (and life in general) in week one. One thing that struck me, however, is in the first episode he is seen on the plane sitting directly behind Rose, who was next to Jack. If he was wheelchair bound before the crash, he most likely would not be in a regular seat like that, but rather in the front of the section where there is more room for handicapped people and it is easier to get into and out of. Could just be an oversight by the producers, but interesting nonetheless. Also, what WAS he doing with a suitcase full of knives?


Well, seeing how is character wants to be treated like everyone else, he probably would not have taken a special handicapped seat anyway and might have insisted on a "regular" seat.

I'm thought the knives were for the walkabout tour, but maybe not.

Originally posted by Flyer1
Well, seeing how is character wants to be treated like everyone else, he probably would not have taken a special handicapped seat anyway and might have insisted on a "regular" seat.

I'm thought the knives were for the walkabout tour, but maybe not.

The wierd thing is that no one noticed him getting to his seat? You would thing someone sitting by him (next to him?) would have noticed that he was handicapped before the crash and that could he walk after...

Originally posted by Innova
The wierd thing is that no one noticed him getting to his seat? You would thing someone sitting by him (next to him?) would have noticed that he was handicapped before the crash and that could he walk after...


But quite a few of the passengers died and they also usually load handicapped passengers first. So he might have already been in his seat when the rest of the passengers loaded.

Originally posted by maxman
Jumped out at me too. Wish some of them would jump out and join the movie. Only Jack can do anything (and everything), it seems.

Kind of like this thread. Over 47000 views but only 900 posts.

I would think that most of them are probably still in shock. After all, its only been 4 days and not many people get to see carnage like they probably did.

Not too far fetched if you ask me.

I live in Sterling near Sasha and Flyer, and the Lost episode two days ago didn't come in at 5.1 over the air. I thought, maybe my AV receiver was set wrong, and changed to Fox OTA to check and that came in at 5.1 just fine. Anyone else notice this from DC's ABC station?

Check the DC thread.

I haven't flown in awhile but the last time I remember them letting handicap people on board first. this makes sense so you are not in their way as they are getting seated. Also Whatever trauma was cause 4 years earlier to make hime not able to walk was psychological. Most likely he has been in therapy to keep his muscles from atrophying. He noticed his toes moving when he was half unconscious so he realized his legs were back. Then in the jungle when he was knocked over he kept looking at his legs. He looked worried they might not work again. During the episode I was wondering why he kept looking at his feet and the wheel chair at the end was great.

Locke definitely wasn't saving money, as he was blowing it on the phone sex line to that lady, forget her name. Bonnie? When she hung up on him, she said she had to or she'd have to charge him ANOTHER $89.95, so he's probably racked up a few thousand dollars talking to her if he "knows" her that well, or at least he wants to believe he knows her.

Maybe Locke is a "spook".

Originally posted by El Pollo
I live in Sterling near Sasha and Flyer, and the Lost episode two days ago didn't come in at 5.1 over the air. I thought, maybe my AV receiver was set wrong, and changed to Fox OTA to check and that came in at 5.1 just fine. Anyone else notice this from DC's ABC station?

DC ABC affiliate WJLA-DT does not have a DD5.1 encoder. Never did and I doubt they will anytime soon.

Point your antenna to Baltimore ABC affiliate WMAR-DT which does have a DD5.1 encoder and seems to be a better run station to boot. Having 5.1 makes all the difference.

I'm in a wheelchair but I have never flown but I have a friend who has. They made him transfer into one of the seats and they stored his wheelchair in the cargo section. My guess is that is probably what they do for all handicapped passengers. They can't really let them stay in their wheelchairs and tie the chairs down to the floor can they?

Originally posted by Hounsfield
Fans of 'Alias' knows that J.J. Abrams is a master of the build-up. I'm not worried that we haven't gotten any answers only 3 episodes into the series... the pay-offs will come eventually, but character development has to come first.

judging by alias jj is no master of payoffs... :D

Okay... finally caught up again after watching Lost last night....

So.. remember my post about the guy I briefly met that has a small role in the series?

Well... here's my speculation:

I'm about 95% sure that he plays Locke's a$$hole boss....

Understand that I didn't get a chance to talk to this guy about the show, but was told that he played a small part and dies in one of the next episodes.

I don't know about you, but I wanted to kill Locke's boss... He was totally demeaning to him. Also, it seems clear that Locke has some issues. Whether he is delusional or truly once was a Colonel but having difficulty with his disability, hard to say... But If what I heard is true, I figure Locke takes out his boss before he tries to go on his walkabout...

We'll see... :)

Great twists in the story too... Never saw the whole Locke miracle coming... And yes, I think Jack is suffering from sleep deprivation too, hence the helucinations.... but too early to tell... :)

Were you able to get a good enough look at the dude's face? Remember his boss had facial hair. The thing that struck me about the mystery dude was he was wearing a suit and tennis shoes.

Originally posted by labmansid
One thing that struck me, however, is in the first episode he is seen on the plane sitting directly behind Rose, who was next to Jack. If he was wheelchair bound before the crash, he most likely would not be in a regular seat like that, but rather in the front of the section where there is more room for handicapped people and it is easier to get into and out of. Could just be an oversight by the producers, but interesting nonetheless. Absolutely not. Passengers in wheelchairs are placed in regualr seats if at all humanly possible. There is no "Wheel Chair" section. In fact passengers with physical disabilities are actually seated FURTHEST from the exits on purpose - in an emergency exit situation, the lives of the many take precident of those of the few. The airlines want to be able to get as many people off the plane as quickly as possible, and having a wheel-chair bound person in the way of the exit could compromise that. As cold as that sounds, that's the thinking.

Passengers with wheelchairs are load first because once other passengers are on the plane, there might not be room to maneuver the wheelchair.

So, that (along with the fact some people who just can't walk long distances are taken on and off in wheelchairs) would explain the reason no one saw his condition.

Originally posted by mx6bfast
Were you able to get a good enough look at the dude's face? Remember his boss had facial hair. The thing that struck me about the mystery dude was he was wearing a suit and tennis shoes.

Who's boss? The guy in the suit is obviously an 'older' guy... seems to have gray hair...

The only other 'boss' I remember is Locke's (from flashback...) these are clearly two totally different people, unless I missed what you were referring to.

Originally posted by El Pollo
I live in Sterling near Sasha and Flyer, and the Lost episode two days ago didn't come in at 5.1 over the air. I thought, maybe my AV receiver was set wrong, and changed to Fox OTA to check and that came in at 5.1 just fine. Anyone else notice this from DC's ABC station?

ABC out of DC does not broadcast 5.1 - I believe they do not have the equipment, not yet! The baltimore station however does. I only pick up WJLA out of DC.

Originally posted by Flyer1
Tonight's episode is called "Tabula Rasa"

Definition:
1a. The mind before it receives the impressions gained from experience
1b. The unformed, featureless mind in the philosophy of John Locke
2. A need or an opportunity to start from the beginning
Also often referred to as "a blank state"

Interesting...

Just getting caught up on the thread....

Regarding #1b above: Interestingly Terry O'Quinn's character's name IS John Locke IIRC.

Hmmmmmmmm........

:confused:

Originally posted by dmbatch
I think it's his father. I also still think Jack is just hallucinating from sleep deprivation. I think I heard him say last night that he hadn't slept since the crash.

Since a lot of marroned flashback'd characters seem to be confronting (or eluding) their inner demons, didn't Jack mention that he was "born into" the medical industry.....or something to that effect.

I'm thinking it's Daddy he saw.....or a "mentor" from his early medical days....

:confused:

I think the whole 'Alternate Reality' idea is starting to really become a possibility...

Couple of reasons...

So far, alot of the people that 'survived' the crash have some kind of history that is not necesarily good.
1) Kate with her mysterious crime
2) Druggie hobbit dude... (I forget his characters name)
3) Cigarrete dude (I forget his name too :) ) seems like he's some kinda loose cannon
4) Father and Son... what'd happened that kept him from his son for so long?
... and so on... the others may have stories too, which I'm sure we'll learn about as the episodes go...
It's possible that Jack had some tragic 'Doctor negligence' type situation ...

Anyways, I'm thinking that this crash put these bad people into an alternate reality which is meant to cause suffering for their wrongdoings...

The guy in the suit is satan... :)

Might be a long shot, but interesting idea... :)

JayDog, interesting thought on the "doctor negligence" thing... Could the mystery suit guy be a former patient of his that died because of something he screwed up? Operating table mishap or something? Coming back to haunt him

> FYI The asian lady and her husband are Korean. I know I spent 30 months stationed in Seoul.

We know. I spent 24 years growing up in Seoul. :p

And I think the reason the kid was left with Sun (the Korean lady) is the producers wanted to put her on the screen. :p

BTW, the next episode (or the one after that) is supposed to have flashbacks of the Korean couple.

Hong.

Originally posted by JayDog_2
Who's boss? The guy in the suit is obviously an 'older' guy... seems to have gray hair...

The only other 'boss' I remember is Locke's (from flashback...) these are clearly two totally different people, unless I missed what you were referring to.

I was running 2 posts together. My bad. Please disregard who I think the "ghost" guy is.

But I still liked the tennis shoes.

Originally posted by hongcho
[B...
BTW, the next episode (or the one after that) is supposed to have flashbacks of the Korean couple.

Hong. [/B]

They're soooo interesting. I'd rather see the blond brats flashback. :rolleyes:


Did anyone catch or mention that when Kate was climbing the tree she said "Don't worry, I've climbed worse."

Like maybe a prison fence.

Originally posted by hongcho
> \.

We know. I spent 24 years growing up in Seoul. :p


Hong - Are the Koreans speaking actual Korean on the show? Do you have any insight (spoilers?) based on what they have said?

They are speaking Korean.

Originally posted by SteveC
A great alternative to an HD TIVO is to put a $150 HDTV tuner card in your PC and save the HD datastream to your hard drive. Very easy and it works great. The GUI that comes with the card allows you configure unattended recordings. You can then play them back at your leisure at full HD picture quality. If you have the time and desire you can even edit the stored datastream and delete the commercials.

That sounds like a nice option but I dont know if it works for my situation. HDTV "Tuner" sounds as though they are used to record OTA transmissions..... and if you look at my location under my name you can see that I do not get OTA :(.

Do the cards have component inputs that I could run from my Sat receiver into it?

Originally posted by jaypb
Just getting caught up on the thread....

Regarding #1b above: Interestingly Terry O'Quinn's character's name IS John Locke IIRC.

Hmmmmmmmm........

:confused:

I never caught that...I like it when they incorporate that type of stuff into the show

Originally posted by Vlad_Dracule
Do the cards have component inputs that I could run from my Sat receiver into it?

Nope, you need an 8VSB OTA signal, ie, RF in your area.

Vlad,
The cards just store the digital datastream that they receive. Component output is strictly analog. Your only hope would be if your sat receiver had the option(or could be modified) to output an 8VSB signal on an RF connector. This would be the identical type transmission you would get OTA. The Dish Network model 5000 HD satellite receivers do this.
Steve

I have the 6000 model. Its BEV but they are the exact same receiver. So your saying I can make my receiver output an 8VSB signal? I'm assuming I would need to buy some piece of equipment to make this work?

I thought DISH plugged this loophole..........

by plugged this loophole does that mean newer revisions of receiver have had it fixed? If so I believe mine is likely one of the older 6000's so it may still have the loophole? I would LOVE to be able to record HD onto my comp. In fact I have been looking for way to do this for a while.

The Dish 5000 has an optional RF modulator that output its signals such that any ATSC decoder could use them (like a PC-based ATSC receiver card & recorder). This option was short lived - and never available for the 6000 or other Dish receivers.

But I believe dish has gone to 100% 8PSK encoding for its HD programming - something the 5000 does not support.

So in effect, Dish's HD-recording 'loophole' is now closed.

Hmm, I could have sworn I clicked on the LOST thread....

ron

R11... nope, you must be lost

Hey cmon.... its about how I missed the last Lost episode and how I would like to prevent it from happeniing again..... ;).

> Hong - Are the Koreans speaking actual Korean on the show? Do you have any insight (spoilers?) based on what they have said?

They are really speaking Korean, not fake Korean that Kim Jong Il speaks on "Team America". :p However, Jin (Daniel Dae Kim) has a heavy American accent for a Korean guy who do not seem to understand/speak English. Sun (Yunjin Kim) speaks perfect Korean (she has been in several Korean movies), and I know that she, the actor, can speak English fluently because she went to college in the States.

As for any "insight"... Not really. The only thing I've caught is that even though Jin seems to be very strict with Sun at times, he did say "Honey, I love you" to which Sun answered with a forced smile.

Hong.

Originally posted by hongcho
As for any "insight"... Not really. The only thing I've caught is that even though Jin seems to be very strict with Sun at times, he did say "Honey, I love you" to which Sun answered with a forced smile.

Hong.


I believe that part was captioned anyway ;).

Keep on topic.

> I believe that part was captioned anyway

Yeah, but they translated "honey" with "Sun". :p

Hong.

Last episode of Lost recorded Off-Air from Philly on my HD TiVo had constant stuttering of audio. Did anyone else experience this problem? No problem with The Apprentice, although it's not DD5.1 or HD. Is this a potential problem with the bandwith requirement of 720P and DD5.1?

Jasonbanks, yes, same here (as posted earlier). This is the 2nd week that the first part of the program was messed up, so I called Comcast and missed about 5 minutes or so of the program while they had me on hold. By the time I got back to watching, the audio was fine.

If anyone wants to know more inside stuff about Lost. Kristin on E! interviewed some of the actors. http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Archive2004/041016.html

Someone mentioned earlier that Hurley looks like a guy in a fat suit. Perhaps he will stay alive long enough to lose weight, or perhaps appear thinner in some flashbacks.

Originally posted by fire407
Someone mentioned earlier that Hurley looks like a guy in a fat suit. Perhaps he will stay alive long enough to lose weight, or perhaps appear thinner in some flashbacks. I don't know - he has a chubby face. You can't easily fake that, even with extensive makeup. He may have been padded a bit, but he's definately overweight.

Originally posted by NetworkTV
I don't know - he has a chubby face. You can't easily fake that, even with extensive makeup. He may have been padded a bit, but he's definately overweight. Didn't I read in an earlier post that the first season will progress very slower, no more than a day or a few per episode? I believe I heard that Tom Hanks gained weight so he could lose it during the filming of "Cast Away" to make it seem more realistic that he had been stranded on an island.
YMMV

2 Days per episode - 40 days total for the first season.

Originally posted by jasonbanks
Last episode of Lost recorded Off-Air from Philly on my HD TiVo had constant stuttering of audio. Did anyone else experience this problem? No problem with The Apprentice, although it's not DD5.1 or HD. Is this a potential problem with the bandwith requirement of 720P and DD5.1?

There are many people having this issue. Many in Memphis, among other cities. Go to the Tivo forum and do a search for OTA stuttering. We all are watching ABC when it happens. I have seen it also happen on my E86.

I discovered this show from this thread, but by then had missed the first two episodes. I've read the synopsis at abc.com, but would like to see those episodes. Does anyone expect that if the show survives, abc will repeat the entire series?

If you are not overcome by the legal or moral concerns, there are Bit Torrent sites from which you can download the missed eps.

Originally posted by fire407
Someone mentioned earlier that Hurley looks like a guy in a fat suit. Perhaps he will stay alive long enough to lose weight, or perhaps appear thinner in some flashbacks.

Jorge Garcia, who plays Hurley, was that size last season on Becker, so I know he isn't wearing a fat suit....maybe the producers of Lost could spring for stomach stapling surgery for Garcia, just to add realism to the show next season :D

Redvette

Hey, everybody!

I haven't seen this mentioned on this board yet, and I don't know if it's come up in any other sites, so I thought I'd throw it out there.

Remember what Mystery Guy was wearing in "Walkabout"? White tennis shoes.

Remember what was hanging from a tree that Jack ran past in the opening scene of "Pilot"? One white tennis shoe.

I have no idea if there's any connection there, or if JJ Abrams will just make me look like a total tool in the upcoming eps. Whatever the case, thought you guys would want something new to discuss.

Cheers,
Anime Nut

Originally posted by AnimeNut
.......
Remember what was hanging from a tree that Jack ran past in the opening scene of "Pilot"? One white tennis shoe.

I have no idea if there's any connection there, or if JJ Abrams will just make me look like a total tool in the upcoming eps. Whatever the case, thought you guys would want something new to discuss....


I saw a pair down the street, hanging from some telephone pole wire.
Creepy.

Originally posted by sbddvm
I saw a pair down the street, hanging from some telephone pole wire.
Creepy.
Were there any survivors?? :D

Originally posted by CPanther95
I've actually known a couple people who had white tennis shoes, so I'm not sure how rare they actually are. :) The people or the shoes?

Originally posted by labmansid
Were there any survivors?? :D

Shouldn't be, a pair of shoes hanging from a telephone wire is an urban custom to memorialize the death of a member of the neighborhood, usually not by natural causes.

Jim

Must be a California thing. We used to do it just for fun.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Must be a California thing. We used to do it just for fun.

Probably, the practice was first observed I believe in the south-central section of Los Angeles sometime during the late 80's or early 90's as a constant reminder of a fallen comrade whose life was lost due to the strife between rival factions of gang members. Pretty morbid I guess, but, microcosms of society often develop their own peculiar customs.

Jim

Did anyone recognize that electronic device sitting next to Locke's bed -- the one that he turned off while he was talking to Helen? I'm not certain, but it could have been an electrical muscle stimulator. That could partially explain why his muscles haven't totally atrophied over the past 4 years.

Additionally -- and this is admittedly far-fetched -- but some paraplegics and spinal cord injury patients, have regained some of their functional ability by having electrodes surgically implanted in their limbs. They then wear devices that send radio-frequency signals to the electrodes which trigger muscle contraction in a coordinated fashion. Maybe there is something on the island that is generating electromagnetic fields, and perhaps allowing (or controlling) Locke's movements?

Yes, I know it's a stretch :p. Here's an even bigger stretch: Maybe Jack, the spine surgeon, had something to do with Locke's condition? You'd think they would recognize each other, but maybe it happened during Jack's residency/fellowship. It wouldn't be uncommon for another resident, fellow, or staff, to have been the patient's primary contact on the surgical team, and Jack could have just been brought into the case as an assist...

From the did-you-see-it-dept: In the Melbourne Walkabout Tours scene, a U.S. Postal Truck just barely enters the scene behind Locke. They cut away before you see any identifiable logos, but you do see a bit of the red, white, and blue decal along the side of the vehicle. :D

Originally posted by Hounsfield
From the did-you-see-it-dept: In the Melbourne Walkabout Tours scene, a U.S. Postal Truck just barely enters the scene behind Locke. They cut away before you see any identifiable logos, but you do see a bit of the red, white, and blue decal along the side of the vehicle. :D

I saw that and it confused me, I thought Locke was in Hawaii during that shot, a definite blooper.

Jim

... and the dog stops barking once our cast goes and sees the boars. The dog was barking to warn them that boars were in the fuselage, but the dog was smart enough to know to stop once the cameras and cast got there?

Uh, no...

I'd hardly call the postal truck a blooper of import... Especially when I'll allow artistic conveniences like shutting up the dog instantly.

Oh, and the thing next to Locke's bed reminded me of something out of the Heathkit catalog more than a muscle stimulator.... FWIW.

Originally posted by rogo

I'd hardly call the postal truck a blooper of import...


No, it wasn't, but it was enough, for me anyhow, to be confused as to where the scene took place until it was completely played out..

Originally posted by rogo

Oh, and the thing next to Locke's bed reminded me of something out of the Heathkit catalog more than a muscle stimulator.... FWIW.

That's funny, I thought the exact same thing.

Jim

Originally posted by rogo

Oh, and the thing next to Locke's bed reminded me of something out of the Heathkit catalog more than a muscle stimulator.... FWIW.

Yeah I was thinking oscilloscope...

The shoes on the trees/telephone wires also has the urban legend of meaning that's a location to buy drugs... :) Could this be an outpost of the Colombian drug cartel?

ok, well now, back to the show...

comingsoon.net has a quick glimpse of this Wednesday's episode:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=6808

William Mapother will star in two episodes on ABC's hit new drama Lost from J.J. Abrams. Mapother, best known for his role in the feature In the Bedroom, will next be seen in Sony's horror thriller The Grudge, with Sarah Michelle Gellar.

The October 20 episode of Lost is titled "White Rabbit". In it, Jack is near delirious from lack of sleep and struggles to overcome the haunting events that brought him to Australia and, subsequently, to the island.

Meanwhile, Boone gets caught in a treacherous riptide, the pregnant Claire's health takes a bad turn, and a thief may have stolen the last bottles of water.

sure seems like the guy in the suit & tennis shoes was a patient who died while Dr Jack was operating

They forgot to mention the scrumptious BBQ Boar feast.

Keenan, fair point on being confused. But that said, you weren't supposed to know what was going on until the scene completely played out.

Even though many of us figured it out before that epiphany, clearly you were supposed to be thrown off by the conversation. I still admit that the location was not really intended to fool you, but given the postal logo was something that most people would never notice and would need a PVR or equivalent to see, I'm going to cut the production crew some slack. :)

Mark

Originally posted by rogo
Keenan, fair point on being confused. But that said, you weren't supposed to know what was going on until the scene completely played out.

Even though many of us figured it out before that epiphany, clearly you were supposed to be thrown off by the conversation. I still admit that the location was not really intended to fool you, but given the postal logo was something that most people would never notice and would need a PVR or equivalent to see, I'm going to cut the production crew some slack. :)

Mark

No big deal, it's a TV show, and a good one IMO, in fact it has given me cause to take a second look at some of ABC's other offerings this season, Desperate Housewives being one, I have really been enjoying the weird quirkiness of that show..

Jim :)

Hey drunkpenguin....I don't understand, you obviously hate the show since you have to come to this thread and belittle it every chance you get, but yet you continue to watch it? Are you somehow jealous or pissed off because 20 million viewers are enjoying it weekly and you're not? Or maybe you really are enjoying it because you continue to watch it and continue to discuss it in this thread! I mean does that make any sense at all?! Please enlighten me because I want to know what possesses such a sad individual to continuosly post about a show they seemingly hate.


James

finally got caught up on this thread after seeing episodes 3 & 4 on saturday. a ton of thanks to sasha_j for hooking me up after my myhd failed to record!

Originally posted by Hounsfield
From the did-you-see-it-dept: In the Melbourne Walkabout Tours scene, a U.S. Postal Truck just barely enters the scene behind Locke.

i believe the usps delivers internationally.

Originally posted by jaypb
I'm thinking it's Daddy he saw . . .

i'm guessing it's his father as well. right before jack saw him, he was talking about being "born into" the "family business" of medicine. then the guy suddenly appears. also, some docs wear tennis shoes 'cause they're on their feet all day, & they're more comfortable in tennis shoes.

the "white rabbit" title of this week's episode is an obvious reference to "alice in wonderland," which many on this board also recognize as a common theme in "the matrix" (e.g., "follow the white rabbit," "choose the blue pill or the red pill," "see how deep the rabbit hole goes"). the title also hints at the supernatural. i guess the guy in tennis shoes represents the white rabbit.

Originally posted by kpoon
i believe the usps delivers internationally.


United Parcel Service delivers internationally as well as domestically.

United States Postal Service delivers domestically in the United States and possessions. You wont find a USPS truck in Australia.

Jim :)

I would have never noticed the truck, without reading this thread. And I watch it in HD with a TiVo. That's a little anal isn't it, harping about seeing a USPS truck in the scene, that the majority of people would never see.

Ok, I'm being optimistic here, but assuming the Red Sox win tonight (Hope & pray) then game 7 would coinside with LOST and my crappy comcast hddvr can only record one thing at a time. I may have to split the signal before the box and go directly into the tv with the cable to watch the game and record LOST. What a crappy DVR!!!!!!!!!!

DeathOpie, it can only record one thing at a time, or it can only view one show at a time? If its the latter, then yes, you're screwed... but if you mean you cant record both, thats not a big deal, record one and watch the other. But maybe you mean you can only be viewing whatever you're recording, in which case I'd tape Lost and watch the beginning of the baseball game in SD, then at 9 switch over to the game in HD and watch the rest. If its going to be an exciting game, it'll be exciting at the end.

Don't worry, DeathOpie, the Sox won't be playing tomorrow night, so just enjoy Lost at 8pm on Wednesday!

If you're recording you have to keep the cable box on that channel. This is 2004, not the dark ages, what is up with that?

North, we all know a sweep is not nearly painful enough for red sox fans. Another game 7 loss, that's what we fear/expect..........But you never know........................................................ ....... (gasp)

(faint)

(hemmorage)

Originally posted by DeathOpie
Ok, I'm being optimistic here, but assuming the Red Sox win tonight (Hope & pray) then game 7 would coinside with LOST and my crappy comcast hddvr can only record one thing at a time. I may have to split the signal before the box and go directly into the tv with the cable to watch the game and record LOST. What a crappy DVR!!!!!!!!!! Stop by your friendly comcast office and pick up a 6200. This solved this problem for me.

Is the 6200 an HD-DVR?

Originally posted by DeathOpie
Is the 6200 an HD-DVR?

No, I think tall1 means use it as a second tuner.

Jim

Next week's TV GUIDE (hard copy edition) has a bunch of spoilers for the next few episodes, plus some other surprising info (like Matthew Fox was originally supposed to die in the pilot and Kate was going to be the defacto leader, but the network didn't like it).

The main spoiler (and it's major):
One of the regulars is going to die before the end of the season. A more minor spoiler: The Korean woman can speak English, and was planning to leave her husband when the plane got to the US.

Originally posted by wiggo
Next week's TV GUIDE (hard copy edition) has a bunch of spoilers for the next few episodes, plus some other surprising info (like Matthew Fox was originally supposed to die in the pilot and Kate was going to be the defacto leader, but the network didn't like it).

The main spoiler (and it's major):
One of the regulars is going to die before the end of the season. The producers already said this sort of thing was a possibility in order to keep things unpredictable.

A more minor spoiler: The Korean woman can speak English, and was planning to leave her husband when the plane got to the US. I think someone already mentioned the first part. The second part certainly would make sense based on how she's treated.

Not to mention that she flashing the other castaways.

ABC will re-broadcast 2 episodes of "Lost" on Saturday Oct. 23 8-10pm - "Walkabout" followed by "White Rabbit"
This replaces the previously announced "World of Disney - The Princess Diaries" movie.

Originally posted by aaronwt
I would have never noticed the truck, without reading this thread. And I watch it in HD with a TiVo. That's a little anal isn't it, harping about seeing a USPS truck in the scene, that the majority of people would never see.
Nobody is harping on anything, and personally, I don't consider it a blooper at all. The scene was cut so that the truck was barely perceivable. I'm betting that the editors saw the truck in post-production and editted the scene so that it never fully enters the frame. It probably wasn't worth the expense or trouble of reshooting the scene.

I only brought it up to illustrate the attention to detail that the producers of this show display. A more careless crew might have let the scene go on a microsecond longer, in which case, it would have become a real blooper.

And obviously, we're not the "majority of people." ;)

I'm not sure if any of you are familiar with Penny Arcade at all (it is a geek/gamer/etc cartoon), but today's comic (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2004-10-20&res=l) is about Lost. They sound just like all of use here :D :p

Originally posted by keenan
No, I think tall1 means use it as a second tuner.

Jim Yes, that is what I meant. Thanks Keenan. I hit record on the 6208 and switch inputs to watch HD on my 6200. It costs an extra $5/month for this setup. I can wait out the bugs and missteps when the 6412 is deployed by using my cobbled 2-tuner setup with the 6200/6208.

9 more hours until show time!! :D