Random thoughts...

The only thing that bothers me about the episode. It did not give me any compelling reason for Eko (and Jin) hiding when he thought "They" were near by. When "They" try to pick the strongest out (4 intended, but only 3 they got), Eko managed to kill two (I mean TWO!). Also, Ana Lucia managed to kill one (maybe "They" have the weak point, the head). Sure, Eko might have been worried about being outnumbered, but still I thought they didn't need to be that scared.

Well, another thought after watching Ethan/Goodwin and other dead "Others"/"Them"... Maybe there are two-tiered class/hierarchy among "Others"/"Them". Really strong ones (decently dressed Ethan/Goodwin) and not so strong ones (dressed in rags).

As already mentioned, I also thought there was a possiblity that "Others" and "They" were two different groups. I also think that it is possible that "Jack" and "Ana Lucia" may eventually split up but that will depend on how strongly they feel about the threads of "Others"/"Them".

- Is it really going to be like "Survivor"? Maybe we will get fresh new outside people regularly. The former group becoming "Others"/"Them"?

Hong.

Riddle me this Batman, Ana Lucia claimed to know who was and who wasn't on the plane when questioning Nathan, yet she didn't recognize Jin, Michael nor Sawyer.

I think she was referring to those at the back of the plane.

I think she was referring to those at the back of the plane.

Not to mention that people look quite different 40 days later in ragged clothes, unshaven, etc ...

Random thoughts...

The only thing that bothers me about the episode. It did not give me any compelling reason for Eko (and Jin) hiding when he thought "They" were near by. When "They" try to pick the strongest out (4 intended, but only 3 they got), Eko managed to kill two (I mean TWO!). Also, Ana Lucia managed to kill one (maybe "They" have the weak point, the head). Sure, Eko might have been worried about being outnumbered, but still I thought they didn't need to be that scared.




Something to consider is that the Others had no idea where they were at this point. If Eko and Jin are seen, the Others will know the rest of the group is close and they will start be hunted again.

It's funny that A A-A always plays African characters even though he speaks with a British accent.

Same reason all the "ancient Romans" speak with a British accent. It lets us know they're foreigners yet they're speaking English. Very convenient. :)

Does anyone know how much an episode of Lost costs to make (not including the pilot ep)? I'm sure it's pretty expensive, so all the commercials they run are actually needed to pay to bring us this awesome series. So, while, I also don't like the commercials, I can tolerate them knowing I'm not personally shelling out any money for this "free" tv show. If there are too many for you, just record and watch later, or buy the DVD's when they come out. But, I don't feel it's too crazy for them to "extend" the episode to provide for extra sponsorship. After all, that is actually the only reason any tv show, movie, etc., is ever made for...$$$.

No one could argue with this. However the way ABC promoted this 'extended' episode was sneaky, underhanded, and a scam since the impression given was that the actual show was extended when in fact it was the commercials.

I'm from Canada and was watching on the CTV network, a Canadian national network that gets a direct feed of the broadcast. The episode ended at the usual 9:59 and I thought to myself 'WTF, where are the extra minutes'.

I quickly switched to our local ABC station which is feed from Buffalo and it was several minutes behind. So no 'extras' as far as the show goes.

Guess we'll know for next time a 'special extended edition' is promoted.

As for the episode itself, I liked it if not for anything else but the fact that we got a break from all those backstories.

Seeing how wrong she was in locking up Nathan and how quick a trigger she has, along with that edgy I-know-better-than-anyone-else attitude, I find it hard to believe a lot of people will ever love her. She'll have to get major humble or have an incredible backstory to change minds. It'll be interesting to see if the writers/producers can pull that off, if that's even their intent.

Why is it that everyone assumes that every character on a TV show who isn't a "villain" must be lovable? Maybe Ana Lucia is just an abrasive person who's never going to be part of the big group hug. Why is that such an unreasonable thing?

This attitude annoys me. Everyone complains when a character isn't likeable enough. Maybe she's not supposed to be a likeable person. There are certainly plenty of people like that in real life. Why shouldn't there be on TV?

Since the hole is so deep that a person cannot climb out of it, it would be impossible for her to get the dirt out if she was doing it alone.

There was a rope for that.

I'm from Canada and was watching on the CTV network, a Canadian national network that gets a direct feed of the broadcast. The episode ended at the usual 9:59 and I thought to myself 'WTF, where are the extra minutes'.




dynot, did you know Ethan and Nathan ?

I'm keeping my eye on you, you better watch out :eek:

Here's my thought:

If Ana Lucia was right when she speculated that Goodwin was forced to join the survivors because someone may have spotted him in the jungle and gotten suspicious if he disappeared, why was he wearing shoes and normal civilian dress clothes, unlike the rest of the "Others"? It seems to me that both he and Ethan may have been deliberate 'plants' in the survivor groups, like they were ready and waiting for the plane to crash and knew exactly where the survivors would be.

Very interesting.

Since the hole is so deep that a person cannot climb out of it, it would be impossible for her to get the dirt out if she was doing it alone.
She could have used one of the long thick branches she used for the cover as a pole to climb in and out of it.

or built a ladder...

You guy's make me laugh...

From day 1, when they survived an airplane crash from 35,000 feet, you "suspend" all disbelief.

Yeah, those things crossed my mind too when I was watching that episode. In fact, I commented about two of those things to my girlfriend. When you see that tail section falling out of the sky, which actually looked quite believable to me, the first though in your mind is how any human being could possible survive an impact like that. For some reason there seems to be a notion that the water impact would be less severe than land. I think not. At least the front section of the plane still had wings. And how in God's name could that guy in the chair land safely in that tree? WTF? The whole plane crash thing, if taken at face value, is awful shaky. I would think that a massive decompression at 35K ft due to the plane breaking in half would render all the passengers unconcious in seconds followed by death, unless they already had their masks on. Does anyone remember that plane crash over in Spain, I think, earlier this year where they attributed it to a sudden pressure loss in the cabin, disabling both pilot and copilot in seconds?

Then there's that hole that Rodriguez's character scraped out of the ground. It looks like two weeks worth of work.

I have a few a question maybe someone can answer. Why wouldn't anyone have a vague idea of where this plane was? Aren't planes closely followed in and out of different countries' airspace very carefully on radar? After all, no country wants to be unaware of what planes are flying around. And then there are the black boxes. I suppose the answer to my own question would be that they were to far out in the ocean for radar, and that the black box couldn't transmit very far. It still seems to be that if a jumbo jet "lost radio contact" that air traffic controllers from somewhere in the world would be able to at least see it's course for awhile. Maybe none of this is real, though.

it never ceases to amaze me how people CONTINUE to bitch about commercial breaks.

HELLO, this is network tv? Last time I checked, it is FREE and is available over the air.

This thread is starting to resemble the "<insert movie here> on ABC" threads. Some guy always starts whining and bitching about commercial breaks and how it is unwatchable.

OK, we get the idea. This thread is hard to follow as is..please don't clutter it with commercial break bitching.

Why is it that everyone assumes that every character on a TV show who isn't a "villain" must be lovable? Maybe Ana Lucia is just an abrasive person who's never going to be part of the big group hug. Why is that such an unreasonable thing?

This attitude annoys me. Everyone complains when a character isn't likeable enough. Maybe she's not supposed to be a likeable person. There are certainly plenty of people like that in real life. Why shouldn't there be on TV?

Agreed, Josh...

Sawyer is FAR from likeable! I'd kick his ass if I met him but now people seem to love him.
Michael is probably very likeable but he annoys the crap out of me.

AL is serving a purpose right now...she has introduced new conflict into the group since now Sawyer and Jack don't look like they're going to kill each other anymore. How this all plays out is yet to be seen, but I'm OK with AL being a hard-ass bitch. I'd be more disappointed if all of a sudden she drops that persona to "fit in".

Not only would water be almost as crushing as flying in to a mountain, but the impact of the force of air when the front broke away would be enough to decapitate you.

Unless, as was noted earlier, you jump up just before impact. ;)

dynot, did you know Ethan and Nathan ?

I'm keeping my eye on you, you better watch out :eek:

We sent them down-under because we only keep the good ones!

We're a whole nation of 'others'. You should be keeping an eye on all those Canadian hockey players as well. Do you really think they're there just to play hockey??? ;)

it never ceases to amaze me how people CONTINUE to bitch about commercial breaks.

HELLO, this is network tv? Last time I checked, it is FREE and is available over the air.

This thread is starting to resemble the "<insert movie here> on ABC" threads. Some guy always starts whining and bitching about commercial breaks and how it is unwatchable.

OK, we get the idea. This thread is hard to follow as is..please don't clutter it with commercial break bitching.

I hate the commericals too. I think they are particularly troublesome on Lost because the show is so ridiculously broken up with massively parallel plot lines to begin with. When you have 30 different simultaneous stories ocurring at the same time, none of which are ever resolved, half of which are in the past, and then you throw in a 3 to 4 minute break every 10 minutes or so, it definitely disrupts the flow, in my opinion. I watched the first season on DVD after the fact, and it was interesting enough that I looked forward to the second season. Now, with commericials and two week breaks with no new shows, I'm kinda losing interest.

There was an article a week or two ago on Yahoo News commenting on average commerical time per minute of program material has nearly double sinced the mid eighties. It was depressing. Apparently, there used to be some "voluntary limit", but that isn't observed any longer.

They'll continue to milk it for everything they can before DVRs destroy their business model.

I think the best explanation for the plane tracking problems is the strangemagnetic field on the island that the DHARMA people had been trying to observe. Like a less popular Bermuda Triangle.

They'll continue to milk it for everything they can before DVRs destroy their business model.


I think that is a looooooooooooooong way off. Heck, my father owns a DVR and has never even used it. Granted DVRs are far better than VCRS, but there is a whole percentage of people that will never have the patience to bother with them.

So what do you think they'll do next if the DVRs "destroy their business model"?

I think the best explanation for the plane tracking problems is the strangemagnetic field on the island that the DHARMA people had been trying to observe. Like a less popular Bermuda Triangle.

Would the magnetic field affect radar?

I think in the end, that there will have to be some overarching plot element that trumps everything else, e.g. a supernatural explanation of some sort.

What would be nice, and a pipe dream I suspect, is if the network went back to the 4-act structure and voluntarily reduced the ad load per hour. Get this show back up into the 50 minute mark and simply charge more for the ads if they've absolutely got to have the additional revenue. It would make for longer scenes and improve the overall narrative, I'd bet. You know the producers and writers would love it!

So what do you think they'll do next if the DVRs "destroy their business model"?Eh, the politicians, content providers and cable companies will probably get together and enact a:

"DVR Commercial Avoidance Tax/Surcharge Fee" :p

What would be nice, and a pipe dream I suspect, is if the network went back to the 4-act structure and voluntarily reduced the ad load per hour. Get this show back up into the 50 minute mark and simply charge more for the ads if they've absolutely got to have the additional revenue. It would make for longer scenes and improve the overall narrative, I'd bet. You know the producers and writers would love it!


I think "pipe dream" is the key phrase there.

Not only would the ad makers have to pay more, but there ads would get less exposure. Then again, they would probably have to grin and bear it.

Lost doesn't have a monopoly on too many commericals. Try the second half of Money Night Football. More breaks than I can count sometimes, what with play stoppage, possession changes, time outs, two minute warnings, first down breaks, play reviews, field goal, punt and kick off preparation breaks, and mandatory contract ad breaks. I'm sure I've missed a couple.

Do we know that the plane was at 35,000 feet? Perhaps the pilots were aware of some trouble and were attempting a water landing near an island and the plane broke apart close to the water just before the landing attempt.

Eh, the politicians, content providers and cable companies will probably get together and enact a:

"DVR Commercial Avoidance Tax/Surcharge Fee" :p

But you can be sure that they'd still keep the commericals in there.

On the "bright-side" more commercials = more time for bathroom breaks... that the "older guys" can use especially on Beer, I mean, Game day! :D

But you can be sure that they'd still keep the commericals in there. ;)

I have a few a question maybe someone can answer. Why wouldn't anyone have a vague idea of where this plane was? Aren't planes closely followed in and out of different countries' airspace very carefully on radar? After all, no country wants to be unaware of what planes are flying around. And then there are the black boxes. I suppose the answer to my own question would be that they were to far out in the ocean for radar, and that the black box couldn't transmit very far. It still seems to be that if a jumbo jet "lost radio contact" that air traffic controllers from somewhere in the world would be able to at least see it's course for awhile. Maybe none of this is real, though.

The "black box" you refer to is actually two boxes normally attached to the empennage (tail), and international orange in color to enable recognition at a crash site. One records conversations and radio, the other records flight data. Both are equipped with an underwater acoustic beacon as well as an emergency locater transmitter. The boxes are designed to withstand fire and crash impact forces. Finding a downed aircraft is much easier these days, given that we now have satellites that automatically locate the ELT signal.

Also, the cabin has two portable ELT devices, one forward and one aft. The crew must bring the ELT with them after a ditching scenario to improve rescue probability.

All of this gear is great when functioning and used properly. Oceanic could be just the kind of nondescript airline to have poorly maintained emergency equipment. And our LOST survivors have only meager concepts of how to use radios. Like Bernard saying, "Hello, can anybody here me?"

Radar coverage is spotty on international flights and normally restricted to about 200 miles from land. However, there are many other tools available to track position. We have to just ignore all of that and buy into the storyline. LOST wouldn't happen in today's world, not to any other real world airline.

Do we know that the plane was at 35,000 feet? Perhaps the pilots were aware of some trouble and were attempting a water landing near an island and the plane broke apart close to the water just before the landing attempt.I tried jumping out of a "speeding" automobile once... I don't recommend it...

So what do you think they'll do next if the DVRs "destroy their business model"?

put the ads directly into the show like brand new front load washer/dryers

I think that is a looooooooooooooong way off. Heck, my father owns a DVR and has never even used it. Granted DVRs are far better than VCRS, but there is a whole percentage of people that will never have the patience to bother with them.

So what do you think they'll do next if the DVRs "destroy their business model"?

The loss of eyeballs on commercials is already significant (despite what the networks say) and it will get worse every month that goes by. They will never be able to justify raising rates as long as the impact of DVRs is not measured - once it is measured, the rates will drop significantly.

If I were buying ad time today, I'd insist on the last spot in a break that includes no local spot before the show comes on. Without that assurance, they'd need to offer a significant discount.

Very entertaining episode! Much different feel than the "normal" Lost though. Didn't really answer many (any?) questions.

At the very least, we learned:

• The reason why the Tailenders have such ragged clothes and not many other things that the Midsectioners have, since whatever luggage would have been in the cargo area at the back of the plane landed in the water, not conveniently on the beach...

• That the Tailenders had their own Others infiltrator (Goodwin), a la Ethan. (Good job by the writers with the misdirection of "Nathan"--so similar to the name "Ethan")...

• The purpose of the pit that Sawyer, Michael and Jin were tossed into...

• That the Others knew specifically who they were looking for, adding more fuel to the argument that the plane crashing on this particular island was in no way random, and that the Others were expecting their arrival...

• From the U.S. Army knife that there is a possible U.S. Military involvement on the island (Ok, ok, it wasn't really a U.S. Army-issue knife that hasn't been made in twenty years, it was a Buck 110 that you can buy at any sporting goods shop or Home Depot, but the "U.S. Army" link was very intentionally made)...

• That the message Boone heard while on the radio in the plane was "We're the survivors of Flight 815!" Putting to rest that question...

• That the weapons the Tailenders have really are boomerangs whipped to sticks, not hockey sticks. Putting that to rest...

• That Mr. Eko really was on the plane, and is a bad-ass (killed two Others that first night) and an upstanding guy (retrieved the dead out of the sea for proper burial)...

• That Ana-Lucia really did shoot Shannon...

and

• That Ana-Lucia can smile...

~Dan

Do we know that the plane was at 35,000 feet? Perhaps the pilots were aware of some trouble and were attempting a water landing near an island and the plane broke apart close to the water just before the landing attempt.

We saw the clouds (and no water) when the plane broke apart - and not the dense kind of clouds that could be low lying.

I think she was referring to those at the back of the plane.

No, that was answer from one of the tailers (can't recall if it was the old man) and she quickly dismissed it.

No one could argue with this. However the way ABC promoted this 'extended' episode was sneaky, underhanded, and a scam since the impression given was that the actual show was extended when in fact it was the commercials.

Look, this really isn't that difficult to understand: not everyone has Tivo (or other PVR) that automatically picks up the running time and adjusts accordingly. So, for those with old-fashioned VCR's, set to record for an hour, they needed to be made aware that this episode wouldn't end on the hour. And it didn't. It ended 4 minutes past. They *HAD* to promote it as an extended episode so that people would adjust their recordings.

And, as someone else suggested, this was NOT a shorter episode with more commercials. Without exact timings, I usually finish the episode on Tivo in 40 minutes. This one took just over 40 minutes.

Great ep. I just need the 'surround-sound' whispering of the Others explained...

It's a tie-back to the whispers Sayid first heard in the jungle after escaping from the French woman.

Sayid and Shannon heard them too, before Walt's appearance.

And someone else heard them, too, (I don't recall off-hand) last season.

My guess is it's part of the Dharma/Hanso Remote Viewing research.

~Dan

At the very least, we learned:

• That the message Boone heard while on the radio in the plane was "We're the survivors of Flight 815!" Putting to rest that question...

That question was answered within a week or two when they re-did it and released the new audio (version #2) to the public.

How resistant will the tailers be to referring to the bad guys as "The Others" instead of "Them"?
How about: "Them Others"...

~Dan

At the very least, we learned:


• That Ana-Lucia can smile...

~Dan


Indeed. I was beginning to wonder.

Watching the episode once again, Ana Lucia reminds of a female Ice Cube with her facial expressions :)

That question was answered within a week or two when they re-did it and released the new audio (version #2) to the public.

Right...wasn't the original, "there WERE no survivors of flight 815"?

Cool opening, but was hoping to see the breakaway from the back view.Yeah, my gf and I were blown away by the tranquil beach ("beautiful!" she said), then WHAM!
Looked like an HDTV Corona (Change your latitude) commercial there for a minute...

There were five of us watching, and we all jumped when the seat bounced into the camera. :eek:

~Dan

Looked like an HDTV Corona (Change your latitude) commercial there for a minute...

There were five of us watching, and we all jumped when the seat bounced into the camera. :eek:

~Dan

Ha! Funny you should say that. My wife and I thought the same thing (even though I've yet to see an HD Corona commercial) and so weren't really paying attention, then WHAM! That was among the coolest things I've ever seen on TV...

Is the group of people on the boat who kidnapped Walt the same group that took the 2 kids on the beach? If so, how do we know?

From day 1, when they survived an airplane crash from 35,000 feet, you "suspend" all disbelief.

Sayid mentioned, last season, that none of them should have survived...

Let's see...Locke can walk again and the Others have lists of who they want to capture (and possibly, advanced knowledge of their arrival).

I don't think this is your ordinary plane crash...

~Dan

I have a few a question maybe someone can answer. Why wouldn't anyone have a vague idea of where this plane was? Aren't planes closely followed in and out of different countries' airspace very carefully on radar?
When you're in international waters, nobody cares. Before planes could talk to satellites, airlines would string several flights in long convoys over the ocean with a couple hundred miles between each plane. The flights would keep in contact with the plane in front and behind them with the last one usually still in contact with air control back on land. They could also contact air control on shortwave frequencies but this was less reliable.

Nowadays they have radio beacons that are received by satellite (http://www.cospas-sarsat.org/Beacons/beaconsGeneral.htm) and are extremely reliable and sensitive as one guy with a flat-screen TV accidentally discovered. (http://www.democratherald.com/articles/2004/11/06/news/local/news02.txt)

Look, this really isn't that difficult to understand: not everyone has Tivo (or other PVR) that automatically picks up the running time and adjusts accordingly. So, for those with old-fashioned VCR's, set to record for an hour, they needed to be made aware that this episode wouldn't end on the hour. And it didn't. It ended 4 minutes past. They *HAD* to promote it as an extended episode so that people would adjust their recordings.

And, as someone else suggested, this was NOT a shorter episode with more commercials. Without exact timings, I usually finish the episode on Tivo in 40 minutes. This one took just over 40 minutes. Do you really think the network is so concerned for people TAPING/TIVOING shows that they would actually go out of their way to accommodate them? I think not. It was just a lame little sweeps "promotion" (nothing new there) and also ties in with their ongoing practice of making the show run long so as to make people miss the very beginning of the next show on competing networks. Either way, I really don't see what the big deal is about it either though.


ron

Maybe I've missed it, but if Bernard was supposed to be in the restroom (remember Jack's promise to Rose?), then how'd he end up strapped into a seat? Or was the turbulence before the breakup long enough for him to grab some seat other than his own?

Looked like an HDTV Corona (Change your latitude) commercial there for a minute...Well, in Portland it did look like a Corona ad but just not an HD one. When the show started our local affil treated us to their usual 14x9 zoom/crop for non-hd shows :(. I was torn... It would have been awesome in HD, but I just didn't want to miss anything so I waited until the first break to hop up and call the station to ask them to flip the switch. I was really hoping someone else would do it but I think probably nobody else wanted to cut away to make the call either :rolleyes: :D.


ron

Just for fun I put GOODWIN in an anagram website. SO I get this list with a few intriging responses, anyway the wiredest thing was the "thought of the moment" on the search results. Look at the author.. sound familiar.
http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=goodwin

I'm sorry it changes each time but it said.
"The actions of men are the best interpreters of their thoughts. -John Locke"

Maybe, but think of the outrage amongst people who record the show to watch later or archive if they didn't mention that the episode was "extended" beforehand.... :eek:

They did it several times in the first season IIRC - 1 hour & 1 minute, etc., without mentioning it.

I was kind hoping they'd present the tailers 48 days in backstory format mixed in with the current storyline.

Nah, lets get it out of the way so the show can move on.

Anyone else think that Ms. Rodriguez can't act worth a crap? :(

I don't think it's ever been mentioned :rollseyes:

At the very least, we learned:

• That Mr. Eko really was on the plane, and is a bad-ass (killed two Others that first night) and an upstanding guy (retrieved the dead out of the sea for proper burial)...

~DanThen why is Eko so frightened by the Others? Seems between Jin, Eko and AL (she's killed 2 Others also) they can all handle themselves. I would hope when the tribes merge they go after these bastards instead of hiding in the bushes.

...Didn't really answer many (any?) questions.

Not a lot, but we did clear up what was said in the radio transmission and found out where the teddy bear from a couple eps back came from and that it wasn't Michaels.

...We also learned that ANa Killed SHannon, shot her thru the back, which is why the wound in the front is bigger, cause it was the exit wound, usually is much bigger then the entrance...

Wouldn't be THAT big, sorry.

I'm sure this has been previously addressed, but I've been off the Lost board for a while. Probably old news.

Did anyone notice the "Quarantine" posted on the inside of the door where they found the radio and glass eye? I remember they (Jack/Locke) talked about it from the hatch.

I did. I wondered why none of them even mentioned it or questioned it.

I was also impressed with the way she caught on to and called out Goodwin.

I couldn't figure out why she threw the other guy in the pit for 4 days since she obviously knew (through her last conversation with Goodwin) from the beginning that he (Goodwin) was the "other".

Maybe I've missed it, but if Bernard was supposed to be in the restroom (remember Jack's promise to Rose?), then how'd he end up strapped into a seat? Or was the turbulence before the breakup long enough for him to grab some seat other than his own?
Probably, just like Charlie did. All the coach bathrooms in the L-1011 are in the middle back of the coach section so he must have ran (or was thrown) backwards.

Now that I think about it, what bathroom was Charlie in? I thought he ran forward into one of the two first class bathrooms but if he had jumped into a first class seat when the plane went down, he would have been in the front section of the plane with the pilot. Right?

It seems that:

Eko = Locke
Anna = Jack
Cindy = Steve ;)

Just like the bizarro Seinfeld episode.

And Goodwin was in the Peace Corps....perhaps 30 years ago and hasn't aged? And was Locke born on the island 25 years ago?

I thought the remark about the peace corps kinda profound --- "I'm surprised you even know about it" or something to that effect, reflecting on the younger generation's preoccupation with self.

Back to topic, I too was distressed that the group wouldn't have had SOMEONE stand watch while the others slept after being attacked. Made no sense...

It wasn't realistic and was obviously the only way to take the storyline in the direction the writers wanted.

What would be nice, and a pipe dream I suspect, is if the network went back to the 4-act structure and voluntarily reduced the ad load per hour. Get this show back up into the 50 minute mark and simply charge more for the ads if they've absolutely got to have the additional revenue. It would make for longer scenes and improve the overall narrative, I'd bet. You know the producers and writers would love it!Yeah, pipe dream. I'd be mighty surprised if it ever goes over the 44-minute mark, but 50 would be nice.

Seeing how wrong she was in locking up Nathan and how quick a trigger she has, along with that edgy I-know-better-than-anyone-else attitude, I find it hard to believe a lot of people will ever love her. She'll have to get major humble or have an incredible backstory to change minds. It'll be interesting to see if the writers/producers can pull that off, if that's even their intent.

I saw them going for some sympathy for Ana in last nights episode and I hope they don't take her character in that direction. I vote to kill her off before she does much more 'acting' and stinks up the whole show.

I thought the remark about the peace corps kinda profound --- "I'm surprised you even know about it" or something to that effect, reflecting on the younger generation's preoccupation with self.
What????

Peace Corp Volunteer Numbers Reach Record High (http://peacecorpsonline.org/messages/messages/2629/2017737.html)

...the annual Peace Corps census conducted on September 30, 2003 shows that the total number of volunteers in the field is 7,533 - the largest number of volunteers to serve overseas since 1974.

Hey, Kate's a "bank-robber" but we all "love" her character!

That's because of her gorgeous looks and body! We're mostly all male here, aren't we? Which makes me curious how many females are participating in this thread.

and there is too precious little of that...

I think these "gals" need to have a good old-fashion mud-wrestling contest!

maybe during "sweeps" week? :)

...down in the hole after a good rain?!

Maybe if Ana Lucia would prance around in her panties we would grow to love her too!

I say it's at least worth a shot! (you have a great way with words - has me LOL!)

It seems to me that both he and Ethan may have been deliberate 'plants' in the survivor groups, like they were ready and waiting for the plane to crash and knew exactly where the survivors would be.

Very interesting.

Which would explain 'the list'.

OK, I'm caught up. Sorry 'bout that.

That's because of her gorgeous looks and body! We're mostly all male here, aren't we? Which makes me curious how many females are participating in this thread.

Are you kidding? This is AVS. There's only like 5 females altogether who regularly post here, in all forums combined :p

As to the show, I thought it was great; maybe because lack of backstories, but the time seemed to just fly by (no complaints about commercials here). Nice change of pace, but I'm not complaining either way.

Even had to watch it in SD due to the aforementioned issue with the local Tampa ABC affiliate (in my case OTA).

After 40+ days on the Island, Ana will enjoy a shower in the Bunker... perhaps Kate will join her because Ana's back needs a good scrubbing... think of the possibilities... :D

They did it several times in the first season IIRC - 1 hour & 1 minute, etc., without mentioning it.
I don't get why people are acting like this is something new. ER started beginning early years ago as does FOX with their Sunday prime time. I believe any reasonable person will pad recordings just to be sure.

YMMV

Which would explain 'the list'.Didn't Anna Lucia explain that since Goodwin joined their group on day 1, that he must have collected the names and descriptions of the ones to take, and passed the list to the "others"?

When she first discovered the list, I thought it indicated special foreknowledge. But then her comment made me realize there was nothing special about it. It just confirmed that there had been a "mole" among them.

I don't get why people are acting like this is something new. ER started beginning early years ago as does FOX with their Sunday prime time. I believe any reasonable person will pad recordings just to be sure. And, the first long commercial break during ER comes about 3 or 4 minute into the show. At least on LOST we get 10 minute or more before the first break.

Great ep. I just need the 'surround-sound' whispering of the Others explained...I can't explain it, but do have some thoughts. It seems to be part of a Dharma experiement that has been going on for some time, since the French woman heard it over a period of years. As far as we know, no one has seen anything, they just hear the sound. And it sounds like backward voices to me. Much like Walt, only Walt has been visible when speaking. I think the "voices" are meant to scare and confuse those that hear it. Like when the tail section group came into the area where Sayid and Shannan were. Sayid and Shannon saw Walt and heard the "voices", but when Anna Lucia heard the voices she said something like "what the...was that", and drew the gun, spining around looking for something, but never saw anything. She was in a panic. That is the kind of effect the "voices" have always had, even in season one.

Hasn't anyone recorded the "voices" and tried playing it backward like you have with Walt?

I've also been wondering about Walt's words to Shannon. "Their coming and their close". Who is coming? The others, or the tail section group? And, was Walt warning Shannon, or being used by the others to lure her?

OK, I'm caught up. Sorry 'bout that.Me too! :D

Just putting a few facts together here. The plane went the wrong way from Sydney for 2 hours, lost all radio contact, broke into two parts and crashed. Miraculously, many people in both parts of the plane survived. The "others" had two people wearing modern clothing ready to blend in with the two groups of crash survivors on two different parts of the island within 10 minutes of the crash.

Perhaps it's obvious to everyone else, but it seems to me that the plane was intentionally brought to the island, and the "others" knew about it in advance. The remaining questions are "how" and "why".

In the video on the hanso website (can't find it now), there was a section that said what each of the dharma logos corresponded to. Does anyone what the logo in the "safe house" was for?

Just putting a few facts together here. The plane went the wrong way from Sydney for 2 hours, lost all radio contact, broke into two parts and crashed.

Techincally, it was three main parts. The front part of the plane (including one of the pilots) was found in the jungle. ;)

I hadn't really thought about why the Others were so quick to infiltrate the two groups, but it certainly makes sense that they knew the plane was going to crash. You would have to assume that there were more of them all around the island, so they would be ready no matter where it crashed.

It also suggests that it has been done in the past. You do have to wonder why the Others took a lot of people from the tailers, but only wanted Claire and her baby from the original group. But, if they were only wanting "good people", there are a significant lack of them in the original group. :rolleyes:

Have they said which bunker holds the "rip planes out of the sky" tractor beam yet? I bet its the chameleon dharma bunker with the stretch and grab tounge.

The original group is fairly well armed - it's doubtful that the barefooted, rice-paper walking "others" would successfully carry out a mass snatch & grab like they did on the tailers.

They may have also just decided to wait a bit on the main group since they were already torturing and/or beating the hell out of each other on a regular basis. (or blowing themselves up) ;)

We sent them down-under because we only keep the good ones!

We're a whole nation of 'others'. You should be keeping an eye on all those Canadian hockey players as well. Do you really think they're there just to play hockey??? ;)

Now I've discovered the true reason why Gary Buttman wants to try to move all Canadian hockey teams into the US, he, like us, doesn't trust you others!!! :)

If the islands security system was developed by the Hanso Foundation's scientists/researchers to keep the "Others" at bay then that may explain why the "Others"
or at least the majority of them from venturing into the areas (beach, caves, golf course, garden, hatch) the original group populate. Or, didn't AL or Eko mention is would take 3 days for them to hike to the original groups camp? The "Others" may not know the original group exists.

I couldn't figure out why she threw the other guy in the pit for 4 days since she obviously knew (through her last conversation with Goodwin) from the beginning that he (Goodwin) was the "other".

Unless, AL is an expert in psychology (unlikely) and was stringing Goodwin along to get more info. She only told Goodwin that she was going to tortue Nathan, next thing you know Goodwin is freeing and killing him.

wouldn't it be funny if AL is actually a plant by the Hanso project, as part of a psychology experiment ?

If the islands security system was developed by the Hanso Foundation's scientists/researchers to keep the "Others" at bay then that may explain why the "Others"
or at least the majority of them from venturing into the areas (beach, caves, golf course, garden, hatch) the original group populate. Or, didn't AL or Eko mention is would take 3 days for them to hike to the original groups camp? The "Others" may not know the original group exists.

let's see, first season was all about the original standed survivors of flight 815, led by Jack and Locke.

This season, the back end of flight 815 join the cast, and we get their back stories.

At this pace, we aren't going to get any info and/or backstory of the "others" until next season, at the earliest.
Hanso project, I'd bet, will get spilled by season 7

My favorite Goodwin anagram is DOG WINO, hehe

I agree that there are two groups of Others. The ones that got Walt are one group and the barefooters are another group. I think they may be protecting the kids and some from the first group. Why they do it in such a devious way to the survivors I haven't figured out yet. Maybe the second group was stranded there too, but have been there long enough to know how to coexist with the first group with out getting whacked. They protect the kids and "good people" and leave the rest for the Others to do with what they want.

Have they said which bunker holds the "rip planes out of the sky" tractor beam yet? I bet its the chameleon dharma bunker with the stretch and grab tounge.

LMAO. :D

The "Others" may not know the original group exists.

Ethan, who we assume is an Other, found them pretty easily. We also know that the people on the boat were looking for Walt, so they knew about the launch of the raft and that Walt was on it.

The Others at least in the last couple of episodes are in groups. Who knows what or who Ethan was. I believe radar indicated the boat was exiting the area of the raft until the point the flare was shot up.

Speaking of the boat people it is widely assumed they are the researchers shown on the Dharma film. Add a few years and lots of facial hair and there ya go. My take is the Dharma people are not the "Others".

So that took some brass ones on AL to hand Goodwin the Army knife. Was she testing him? Why didn't he use it on her? I think she didn't know for certain when she handed him the knife and Goodwin wasn't she had it figured out or he wouldn't have returned the knife.

In the video on the hanso website (can't find it now), there was a section that said what each of the dharma logos corresponded to. Does anyone what the logo in the "safe house" was for?

I believe it was the logo with the arrow (see attached)... or Station 4 - Zoological Sciences


Cryptozoological Research
Genus Aberrational Studies
Phylogenetics
Species Allocation & Conservation

The video that showed the logos for each station wasn't from the Hanso site, it was a fanboy site. All the Orientation video mentioned was the 6 stations.

...As for the episode itself, I liked it if not for anything else but the fact that we got a break from all those backstories.

Yea, who needs backstories? Just blow up some junk! :rolleyes:

Not only would water be almost as crushing as flying in to a mountain, but the impact of the force of air when the front broke away would be enough to decapitate you.

Unless, as was noted earlier, you jump up just before impact. ;)



Thank you very much. :D

There's a simple obvious explanation as to why AL dug the pit large enough for ten people -- they needed to fit a camera crew down there.

If this had been a feature film they would have dug a more realistic small hole, shot all of the exterior scenes of it, then dug a larger hole for the interior shots, maybe inserting fake dirt walls to keep it looking cramped. That would have made the handful of pit scenes twice as expensive to shoot. Since this is TV, this is one of those cases where they needed to save some money. :)

Is it possible we are the victims of group think? We have all been shown so many different angles of the plane crash that we all just take for granted that it happened.

Think about this for a second.

All of these people seem to be interconnected in some way or another in life.
They all happen to end up on the same plane
That plane just happens to crash on a beach in two locations where there just happens to be an "other" ready to infiltrate.

This is all very coincidental.

Isn't is more likely that there never was a plane crash? This groups of people could have been handpicked by the Dharma scientists for whatever experimental purpose they have.

A group like Dharma probably would not have any problems using some form of hypnosis to plant every subject with the memory of the plane crash and the events which lead up to them being in Australia.

Hell, it's even possible that Locke was never paralyzed, and as a sub-test they are exploring the effects of a "miracle" on an angry bitter man. He has had one whale of a personality change since being on the island.

I doubt this is any more likely than any of the other theories being floated on here, my main point is that all of our perceptions are based on the original crash.....a crash which is not above suspicion.

Has any of the surviviors made any mention of the Dharma logo yet?? I don't recall anyone mentioning it, but some of them have seen it a number of times, either on Desmond's arm or in the hatch itself or in the bunker where the tailies hang out.

Didn't Anna Lucia explain that since Goodwin joined their group on day 1, that he must have collected the names and descriptions of the ones to take, and passed the list to the "others"?

When she first discovered the list, I thought it indicated special foreknowledge. But then her comment made me realize there was nothing special about it. It just confirmed that there had been a "mole" among them.

There HAD to be special foreknowledge. They were first attacked on the first night of the first day, so presumably they would have had the list at that time (otherwise, why wouldn't they WAIT until they had the list?). Not enough time for Goodwin to gather all of the information for the list and pass it on - he was with them from 10 minutes after the initial crash. The night of the third day was when they took people, but again, presumably, that was their intention on the first night. It was Nathan who was missing for 2 hours (on the third day) - and as someone speculated, perhaps both he AND Goodwin were infiltrators --- could both of them perhaps have been from a different 'group' as also speculated? If so, one of them (Nathan or Goodwin) wouldn't have known that the other was not a passenger, since only one of them would have had knowledge of the 'list'.

I forget her name...the other lady remaining with the tail section folks (not AL). They have gone out of their way to have her tell us twice that she is a clinical psychologist.

There is no doubt in my mind that she is with the Dharma group in some way.

I forget her name...the other lady remaining with the tail section folks (not AL). They have gone out of their way to have her tell us twice that she is a clinical psychologist.

There is no doubt in my mind that she is with the Dharma group in some way.

I would think she would claim to be something else if that were the case, but you may be right.

There has been talk about how likable Anna is. I kept asking myself, and then said it out load to my wife, "why is everyone just bowing down to her, what has she done to deserver so much control?" She is a small to average size woman, so this tough guy routine was just too over the top.

I know it's always the character's she plays, and I would love to act with her, just to ad-lib a good butt-whoppin' to adjust that tough guy latina (or fake latina) attitude.

Other than that, it was nice that they got throught the episode was good. It was better than the first shows where they dragged on the same few plot lines for weeks.

There's a simple obvious explanation as to why AL dug the pit large enough for ten people -- they needed to fit a camera crew down there.

If this had been a feature film they would have dug a more realistic small hole, shot all of the exterior scenes of it, then dug a larger hole for the interior shots, maybe inserting fake dirt walls to keep it looking cramped. That would have made the handful of pit scenes twice as expensive to shoot. Since this is TV, this is one of those cases where they needed to save some money. :)

OR....she dug it that size because she was also thinking about capturing some of the "others" in order to interrogate them too. Hmmm, yeah that is resonable! There are plenty of things about Lost that are much more unrealistic than this little hole digging thing. Haha

I forget her name...the other lady remaining with the tail section folks (not AL). They have gone out of their way to have her tell us twice that she is a clinical psychologist.

There is no doubt in my mind that she is with the Dharma group in some way.

Possibly, but one thing's more certain (and you heard it here first!). She mentioned she had been in medical school for a year but dropped out. Which means.........wait for it..........





........she'll have a backstory connection to Jack! They will have met when both were in med school together.

So that took some brass ones on AL to hand Goodwin the Army knife. Was she testing him? Why didn't he use it on her? I think she didn't know for certain when she handed him the knife and Goodwin wasn't she had it figured out or he wouldn't have returned the knife.

I think she was testing him, as you say. If he had gone for her with the knife, she probably figured she could quickly disable him because of her superior training and fighting skills, and she apparently has some mad skills in that department. After all, she was prepared to torture Nathan a la Jack Bauer all by her tiny little lonesome. How tough could a Peace Corps volunteer be? ;)

There are plenty of things about Lost that are much more unrealistic than this little hole digging thing. Haha
Well if you've ever spent a weekend digging holes for fence posts with steel shovels, you'd be totally amazed that AL dug that garage-sized pit by herself in two days with jungle tools! :eek:

Even more amazing, she didn't spend the next day complaining about how sore her back was. :D

Possibly, but one thing's more certain (and you heard it here first!). She mentioned she had been in medical school for a year but dropped out. Which means.........wait for it..........





........she'll have a backstory connection to Jack! They will have met when both were in med school together.

Also, didn't Desmond say he went to med school at one point and then dropped out?

Also, didn't Desmond say he went to med school at one point and then dropped out?

I believe you are correct sir. So, perhaps it will be her and Desmond that will have a backstory connection. Lots of possibilities, but they wouldn't have given them those lines if they didn't intend to exploit the connection. This is 'Lost', after all. ;)

Also, didn't Desmond say he went to med school at one point and then dropped out?
I can't remember if he said that, but was that her in the picture Desmond had in the bunker with him?

There HAD to be special foreknowledge. They were first attacked on the first night of the first day, so presumably they would have had the list at that time (otherwise, why wouldn't they WAIT until they had the list?)On the first night Eko killed two people in the jungle a short distance from the beach. But, we don't know what those people we there for. They didn't "attack". All we know is, they were there and Eko killed them. AL examined the bodies right then and pointed out they had no shoes and no labels on their cloths and no wallets. Also no list was found. Raises more questions than it answers. Not enough time for Goodwin to gather all of the information for the list and pass it on - he was with them from 10 minutes after the initial crash. The night of the third day was when they took people, but again, presumably, that was their intention on the first night. It was Nathan who was missing for 2 hours (on the third day) - and as someone speculated, perhaps both he AND Goodwin were infiltrators --- could both of them perhaps have been from a different 'group' as also speculated? If so, one of them (Nathan or Goodwin) wouldn't have known that the other was not a passenger, since only one of them would have had knowledge of the 'list'.I think it was somewhere around day 14 when the locals came back into the LOST groups camp and took the kids. It was then that AL killed a female as they were running away, and it was on her that she found the knife and the list. Both Nathan and Goodwin were right there watching as AL found the list. Goodwin asked in a strange way as AL pulled the list out, "what is it"?

I don't think I can honestly say I know any more about what is really going on with the plot of this show now than I did last season. I have a lot of clues, but I don't know yet what they mean.

Any possiblilty that Ana-Lucia is an AIR Marshall? What other reason would she have to be looking at everyone on the plane.

Any possiblilty that Ana-Lucia is an AIR Marshall? What other reason would she have to be looking at everyone on the plane.

Is she going to know Kate?

Also, isn't logical to expect some more people to become stranded on the island at some point?

This is all very coincidental.



LOL :)

Any possiblilty that Ana-Lucia is an AIR Marshall? What other reason would she have to be looking at everyone on the plane.
I wouldn't think an air marshall would want to/be allowed to drink before getting on the plane.

On the first night Eko killed two people in the jungle a short distance from the beach. But, we don't know what those people we there for. They didn't "attack". All we know is, they were there and Eko killed them.
Are you sure about that? Didn't additional "others" take 2 of the tailenders that night and were trying to take Eko who escaped by killing two of them?

Are you sure about that? Didn't additional "others" take 2 of the tailenders that night and were trying to take Eko who escaped by killing two of them?I believe this is correct. Nathan said they were taking out the "strong" first, and one of them was supposed to be Eko, who apparently was a bit too strong for them to take so easily ;).


ron

I believe this is correct. Nathan said they were taking out the "strong" first, and one of them was supposed to be Eko, who apparently was a bit too strong for them to take so easily ;).
A couple of Mafia inmates made the same mistake with A A-A on Oz. If you don't know how that ended up, it's better that you don't know! Yikes! :eek:

There has been talk about how likable Anna is. I kept asking myself, and then said it out load to my wife, "why is everyone just bowing down to her, what has she done to deserver so much control?" She is a small to average size woman, so this tough guy routine was just too over the top.
Easy, people want to follow someone. Take how most juries select their foreman. More often than not, it's the person who sits at the head of the table and starts the vote for one. Can you imagine how wrapped around Jack's finger the front section would have been had he been a more take charge type guy instead of a reluctant leader?

And to refresh peoples' memories, Ana Lucia approached Jack at the bar before the flight. She commented that Jack wasn't drinking and downed something with alcohol in it. Tequila maybe? I'd like to think most air marshalls wouldn't do that, off duty or not. That's not to say she's not military, a fed, or a cop; just not an air marshall.

Good thing the tail section is getting picked off. Now there's only 4 potential back stories to get caught up in. And with two fewer front section stories, that's only a net gain of 2. I suspect we'll only get AL's and Eko's too, making it no "additional" story lines to keep track of.

Finally, I thought I posted about the eye, but didn't see it. I'm surprised this week's didn't start with a close up of someone's eye. At least we got the glass roller.

I was leaning to Anna being a Fed when Anna was questioning Sawyer about the gun in the pit. She seemed to be overly interested in how they managed to get the Marshall's gun.

Now I'm not so sure.

I was leaning to Anna being a Fed when Anna was questioning Sawyer about the gun in the pit. She seemed to be overly interested in how they managed to get the Marshall's gun.

Now I'm not so sure.
Yeah, that's why I thought she might be an Air Marshall and would probably know that Kate is a fugitive. She also doesn't seem like someone who sticks to the rules hence the shot before the flight. She wouldn't be drinking on the plane because the FA's wouldn't be serving a Marshall drinks.

On the other hand, didn't Kate's escort have drinks on the plane?

That plane just happens to crash on a beach in two locations where there just happens to be an "other" ready to infiltrate.

This is all very coincidental.

Isn't is more likely that there never was a plane crash? This groups of people could have been handpicked by the Dharma scientists for whatever experimental purpose they have.

Ever seen the movie Virtuosity?

Could this just be multi-player virtual-reality game...only the players don't know they're in a game?

~Dan

On the first night Eko killed two people in the jungle a short distance from the beach. But, we don't know what those people we there for. They didn't "attack".

Umm...yes, they did. They took three of the Tailers and tried to take Eko, too; but he killed his abductors...

~Dan

Any possiblilty that Ana-Lucia is an AIR Marshall?
No, otherwise she'd have her own gun...

What other reason would she have to be looking at everyone on the plane.
Maybe she was just horny?

~Dan

I wouldn't think an air marshall would want to/be allowed to drink before getting on the plane.


It's possible she is an Air Marshal (or airline security), but was deadheading on the plane, not on duty.

No, otherwise she'd have her own gun...


Maybe she was just horny?

~Dan

LMAO

No one could argue with this. However the way ABC promoted this 'extended' episode was sneaky, underhanded, and a scam since the impression given was that the actual show was extended when in fact it was the commercials.

The episode did actually run longer than usual. 45:58 with commercials edited out (and opening/end credits, such as they are, left in). That's 3-4 minutes longer than usual.

Maybe the Canadian channel showed fewer commercials or promos to compensate for it, but the episode was definitely longer.

Her knowledge of US Army knives probably means she has a military background of some kind, perhaps an ex-GI or an MP or something.

Are you sure about that? Didn't additional "others" take 2 of the tailenders that night and were trying to take Eko who escaped by killing two of them?No, not so sure. :o Are you? We didn't see who was taken, nor did we see how Eko came to encounter the strangers, but the next day (at least I think it was daylight), Nathan came running from the jungle and said there are three missing.

I believe this is correct. Nathan said they were taking out the "strong" first, and one of them was supposed to be Eko, who apparently was a bit too strong for them to take so easily ;).Could be, I suppose. My memory is fading fast. I may have to watch this ep again. :confused:

Her knowledge of US Army knives probably means she has a military background of some kind, perhaps an ex-GI or an MP or something.

Either that or she is a famous chef and has an intimate knowledge of cutlery.

3 were taken - would have been 4 if Eko hadn't killed the two trying to abduct him.

I was just reading the ep recap on the ABC site and it starts out with this (underline for emphasis):

The Other 48 Days
Air Date: 11/16/2005
We open on a gorgeous tropical island tableau, which feels like we're watching one of those beer commercials - until the tail section of Oceanic Flight 815 comes hurtling out of the sky and crashes into the water.


I really kind of think the writers may have had the Corona ads in mind and purposely aped them for this opening. It could open up some interesting cross promotional advertising. I can just see the next Corona ad as it appears during a future ep of LOST. It opens with the now familiar, idyllic ocean view from behind the two sun bathers relaxing in their beach chairs. All the sudden large chunks of burning plane and debris crashes down in the surf in front of them while they remain watching, motionless. After everything has finished landing they calmly reach out their bottles of Corona and clink them together in a cheers. The tag line: enjoy your favorite show with a nice cold Corona!

Yeah, yeah I know, a little sick for some but I'd kinda like to see it just for kicks :D


ron

Her knowledge of US Army knives probably means she has a military background of some kind, perhaps an ex-GI or an MP or something.
Or just read the engraving on the tang of the blade... ;)

I have the same knife, but mine says "BUCK 110" on the blade. Although her "issue" knife was 20 years old (mine's 25!), you can still buy them today, in any sporting goods store...

In fact, here you go:

Super-Secret Army Knife!!! (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/horizontal-item.jsp;jsessionid=NRTQ4FKLK2TKRTQSNOHCCO4OCJVZCIWE?id=0016 634515614a&navCount=0&cmCat=srchdx&cm_ven=srchdx&cm_ite=srchdx&CM_REF=&_requestid=71567)

~Dan

They should have shown a bottle of Dharma beer sitting on the beach.

paul

No, it was the third night. [When the children were abducted.]
OK, I finally got my facts straight. Watched the ep again tonight. First night Eko kills the two. Day 2, they examine the two dead, and Nathan runs into view and announces that three are missing. Day 3, the guy with broken leg is dying. Day 5, they bury the guy that had the broken leg. Day 7, Eko carving on his staff. Day 12, the day Nathan comes back from "bathroom" and then, that night, the kids are taken from the camp and A.L. gives chase and kills the female.

I have to agree with Goodwin when they were arguing about what had just happened on the night of Day 12 when he said, "We don't know anything".

...Day 12, the day Nathan comes back from "bathroom" and then, that night, the kids are taken from the camp and A.L. gives chase and kills the female...

You're correct - I apologize - rewound too far and will delete previous post.

You're correct - I apologize - rewound too far and will delete previous post.
Thanks, but there is no need to apologize, I didn't have all the facts right yesterday either.

So I guess ecko and Jin saw the boy when the "others" walked by. The boy had that teddy bear they showed so prominantly. Talking about the boy who almost lost his sister.

Good Morning America Deleted Scene

We see Ana and the group with the children on the beach and they see a big crate float to shore. They run over to open it up, hoping to find food. They pop the top of the crate and its full of boomerangs.

The end.


Thank you!

Ethan, who we assume is an Other, found them pretty easily. We also know that the people on the boat were looking for Walt, so they knew about the launch of the raft and that Walt was on it.

We have no indication that he found them "easily." Coulda been a scout, got lucky.

Want to see AL in a bikini rent Blue Crush. Not at all sure that it was one of the kids that jin and eko saw walking by, but the teddy bear was his, and it was bound up like some kind of s&m toy which makes me wonder what kind of " better place " those kids are in.

Maybe Libby the Clinical Psychologist mentions it all the time because we keep mentioning how everyone there has some 'problem'. :)
Will she and Locke start holding counseling sessions and interventions together?
I wonder if she knows Hurley?

v/r,
C-F

She only mentioned it twice, and only when nursing the person on the beach and when looking at Sawyer's wound.

Anna getting people's occupations, but not mentioning her's it what really seemed unnatural, but I guess the writers aren't ready to let us in on that until her backstory.

Hi,
sorry if its been asked... but...
Is there significance of the glass eye and the holy bible that the tailers found in the bunker?

Not unless we find a one-eyed-man looking for "God!" :D

Stretching a little too thin? (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001523765) And how exactly will this effect the story, I wonder.

Maybe in my original reference to this, I saw that it was to be about another group of people on the island

Her knowledge of US Army knives probably means she has a military background of some kind, perhaps an ex-GI or an MP or something.
Come on guys. Don't you all remember she is SWAT? :D

We have no indication that he found them "easily." Coulda been a scout, got lucky.
We don't know how much time passed between the crash and Goodwin running out of the woods. He could have been a good distance away and heard the crash and went to investigate. He just happened to be seen by Bernard so he had to cover.

I know how loud it was when my sub rumbled. It made me jump, so it would probably have been easy to hear over a large area of the island.

Maybe Libby the Clinical Psychologist...

I wonder if she knows Hurley?
With the way people on this show are connected, it's a very strong possibility...

~Dan

i agree somehow the clinical psych lady will somehow be linked to jack. probally in med school. I wish i had the epis taped to see if she was really the blond in the pic with desmond, and wouldmt be even funnier if they were all in med school together. I would assume jack would have remember desmond from school, but he hasnt seen the blond psych lady just yet, so maybe they will know each other. I realy cant wait to find out why AAA was on the plane and what AL deal is. Im betting on being some type of officer or probally the airmarshall. THe guy with kate wasnt the airmarshall for the plane, he was escorting a prisnor back to the US for crimes she commited, so that means AL might have been it.

funny you mention the Boone transmission. Last night's episode showed is in day 41, and the episode went up to day 48, where Shannon was killed. I was trying to remember back to last season, but it sure seemed like more than 7 days had passed on the show since the Boone transmission and him dying, no ?


It certainly did, Im surprised noone else has commented on this. It feels like ages since Boone fell down in that plane. So it has only been 7 days huh? Someone who can go back and check the episodes to see if that is even reasonable. I mean it has happened a lot since then.

Since I was fairly certain it was the tail-group that did respond to Boone I was just waiting for that scene to take place when we were fast-forwarded through the tail-peoples first 48 days. When we started closing in on 3-40 days passed I was sure this scene werent gonna happen but then on the 41st day?! Finally Bernand hears something on the radio.

Im betting on being some type of officer or probally the airmarshall. THe guy with kate wasnt the airmarshall for the plane, he was escorting a prisnor back to the US for crimes she commited, so that means AL might have been it.

Even post-9/11, not every airline flight has an air marshall on board. There simply aren't enough marshalls to go around.

It certainly did, Im surprised noone else has commented on this. It feels like ages since Boone fell down in that plane. So it has only been 7 days huh? Someone who can go back and check the episodes to see if that is even reasonable. I mean it has happened a lot since then.

Since I was fairly certain it was the tail-group that did respond to Boone I was just waiting for that scene to take place when we were fast-forwarded through the tail-peoples first 48 days. When we started closing in on 3-40 days passed I was sure this scene werent gonna happen but then on the 41st day?! Finally Bernand hears something on the radio.


According to a LOST time line I found, both did happen on the 41st day on the island

Link to Site...did not see any spoiler material on this page (http://lost.cubit.net/timeline.php)

Even post-9/11, not every airline flight has an air marshall on board. There simply aren't enough marshalls to go around.I'm under the impression the FAA is going to relax some security policies and allow "Grandma" (and those nasty terrorists) to start carrying their pocketknife’s on planes again. :rolleyes:

i agree somehow the clinical psych lady will somehow be linked to jack. probally in med school. I wish i had the epis taped to see if she was really the blond in the pic with desmond, and wouldmt be even funnier if they were all in med school together.

Here's the picture Jack stared at in Desmond's room next to the doomsday machine. It's of such poor quality that I can't recognize for certain either person in the photo. But Jack stared at it for several seconds and blinked as if to say, "I know her."

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/sierrabob/desmondsgirl.jpg

Is Libby the Shrink Desmond's girl?

That's not her in the pic.

Anybody else see the Snickers commercial on Monday Night Football tonight? It was to the song, "Make Your Own Kind of Music" from the first ep of this season - the guy had a bunch of Snickers bars attached to his hair.

Anybody else see the Snickers commercial on Monday Night Football tonight? It was to the song, "Make Your Own Kind of Music" from the first ep of this season - the guy had a bunch of Snickers bars attached to his hair.
You sure they were all Snickers? Maybe some were Apollo bars. :D

yeah, that commercial has been on espn for a week or so too, but this version its a guy singing the song.

Also noticed 2 back to back HD commercials. First was some new Lincoln car or something and the second was for Sirius radio. Ok... 27 hours till next episode

It's Wednesday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's Wednesday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOST Smackdown tonight!

Catfight~~~~~~

:D

CATFIGHT!!!

You guy's make me laugh...

From day 1, when they survived an airplane crash from 35,000 feet, you "suspend" all disbelief.

well...it's possible ;)

This was really about the only thing in this ep that didn't really jive in my mind other than the usual "TV" stuff brought up (digs a giant hole in the dirt and jeans aren't hardly even dirty ;)). If Anna really didn't think Goodwin was from the plane at all from the beginning (because he was dry etc), why would she spend all the time on Nathan only (to the point of getting ready to start removing digits from his hands)? Otherwise I thought it was a very well done ep. They have done a great job of integrating the two groups' stories. No episodic TV show is going to be perfect, especially one of this scope, but LOST does a great job IMO.


ron

I don't think she suspected Goodwin until after the other guy escaped. He escaped right after she told goodwin what she was going to do to him, cut his fingers off. I think that got her thinking about Goodwin. Then she realized/remembered he didn't get wet, came running out of the woods etc. Anna just started to put all the parts together, it just took some time.

Possibly, but one thing's more certain (and you heard it here first!). She mentioned she had been in medical school for a year but dropped out. Which means.........wait for it..........





........she'll have a backstory connection to Jack! They will have met when both were in med school together.

Nah, don't think so. They meet in the airport bar before takeoff. I think they would have recognized each other then,

Nah, don't think so. They meet in the airport bar before takeoff. I think they would have recognized each other then,

Are you thinking of Anna, with whom he had a drink? I don't remember him meeting Libby there....

CATFIGHT!!!Now what's this about a catfight? I love a good "catfight," especially when it involves lots of mud & teeny weenie bikinis! :D

Now what's this about a catfight? I love a good "catfight," especially when it involves lots of mud & teeny weenie bikinis! :D

Anna & Kate, some of us on the board think, these 2 Will Not get along at all......

No matter what, it should be a good episode. Only 2H 56M to go!

Anna Cortez is LAPD! :) That explains why she shoots so good!

Good start to the show.

And her attitude...

And the Drama escalates ...

And her attitude...

And the Drama escalates ...

So far so good.... She obviously has issues.

The writers are sure making her the HEEL of this show. If anyone does not hate her, it would be a miracle.

Great - we get Jack & Sawyer in the shower. :rolleyes:

;)

Well Anna took her coat off :)

Shannon's right thigh twitched. Do dead people get the "Jimmy legs"? :)

I don't get how we get these nice HD commercials during Lost but then the same commercials are run SD on other shows/networks. I guess the network charges them more to run both an SD/HD commercial at the same time...

Holy ****!!!!!
omg dang she's psycho...

Omfg

Great Ending! Bernard & Rose!

I love how Sun finds out Jin is alive and fine - and she goes to do some laundry.

The writers are sure making her the HEEL of this show. If anyone does not hate her, it would be a miracle.

They put her name in the opening credits. Unfortunately, I'm afraid she's going to be with us for quite some time.

Nooooooooooo! More backstories!!!

Not a very good ep IMHO. And the previews for next week don't look that exciting either. The slide continues.

Ok, what clues were in the crossword puzzle? Anyone put together any significance to that yet?

Great - we get Jack & Sawyer in the shower. :rolleyes:

;)

Not only that: we were all hoping for some mud wrestling --- just didn't know it was going to be Sayid and Adebisi!

Shannon's right thigh twitched. Do dead people get the "Jimmy legs"? :)

I am an EMT, and yes dead people's muscles move involuntarily for some time after they die.

Shannon's right thigh twitched. Do dead people get the "Jimmy legs"? :)Yeah, I also noticed her breathing a bit. Maybe she wasn't all the way gone just yet. Does Jack know Anna? Will he and Sayid fight over her? Stay tuned....

I am an EMT, and yes dead people's muscles move involuntarily for some time after they die.

The Body still produces a small electrical charge that fire neurons in a dead body for several hours.

Yeah, I also noticed her breathing a bit. Maybe she wasn't all the way gone just yet. Does Jack know Anna? Will he and Sayid for over her? Stay tuned....

I see Jack & Ana getting together...since he's LOST Kate to Sawyer. Then again, he doesn't seem all that interested in getting laid.

The Body still produces a small electrical charge that fire neurons in a dead body for several hours.

Oh. I thought it might be that "Restless Leg Syndrome" like in the commercials.

I've never watched LOST live before - always on DVR. I know people have said this before, but the number of commercials absolutely sucks.

I watched it live last week, but this week the ABC affiliate in Tampa was broadcasting again, and I TiVo'd it. I ususally watch it live anyway, though, as I can't wait to see what happens (was running errands today and missed the beginning). Other than sports this is the only show that I try to watch live; the commercials are tolerable for one show a week.

Anyway, I completely disagree with the previous poster who felt the show was slow ("the slide continues", I think was the line). I thought it was a great ep; with more of last years style backstory "explaining" why AL acts like she does. She isn't the best actress, but I do think she adds something to the show, and no, I don't "hate" her.

I expect that there will be similar backstory episodes for Eko and the physcologist lady, and maybe Bernard (definitely Eko). But that's not a lot of people compared to what we sat thru last year.

Oh, and I also saw Shannon breathing. Hopefully there will be less controversy than last year's famous Ethan Rom breathing debate :p.

Well, of course, dead people don't breath. But, actors playing dead certainly do. :D

Anyway, I completely disagree with the previous poster who felt the show was slow ("the slide continues", I think was the line). I thought it was a great ep; with more of last years style backstory "explaining" why AL acts like she does. She isn't the best actress, but I do think she adds something to the show, and no, I don't "hate" her.


Enigma, glad you're still enjoying it. Unfortunately, it doesn't do it for me anymore as it did in the early eps in season 1. I realize there are a lot of fans out there and I respect their opinions on the show. However, I just find that it has fallen into the same repetitive groove: backstory-raise new questions-answer none-show misleading previews-repeat.

FWIW, you may wish to check out Prison Break. Definitley the best show out there and would easily smoke Lost head-to-head.

I thought the show was pretty good, great ending, almost a tearful way to close out a show that told alot about a bad ass you all hate in Ana Lucia. Its pretty funny, it was discussed earlier, that some of you have watched THird watch, which was my favorite show and hated Sergent Cruz. I see this show heading down the same path. Bring in the badass chick, whom everyone seems to hates, then make her have a softspot, or show something happen to her to bring her character down to earth. This episode did that for AL. We found out shes a cop, and i would assume she did kill that guy, so now we all feel bad for her, in some way. She says shes dead inside from almost being killed, well, they all technically died to the outter world, cause theres no one in the USA that thinks OCeanic AIR 815 had any survivors.
I also think that AL and Jack will get together. It will take a few epis, cause Jack is deff not happy AL killed Shannon, but knowing they met before the plane took off, and that he must have had some feelings for her, that will lead them to hook up. He will 1st have to cry, cause it deff looks like hesgoin to at the end of this show. THat or rip ALs head off.
wg

I've been looking forward to the reunion between Bernard and the black woman for several weeks. Touching.

I thought this was a great episode. AL's backstory helped understand her actions on the island. It's obvious she was wacko way before the plane crash and doesn't have any qualms about shooting or killing someone. I think she and Sayid will end up hanging together because they are soulmates.

I've never watched LOST live before - always on DVR. I know people have said this before, but the number of commercials absolutely sucks.

A normal 1 Hour Show is supposed to have the following:

Opening Teaser
Title
Commercial
Act 1
Commercial
Act 2
Commercial
Act 3
Commercial
Act 4
Commercial
Act 5
Commercial
Next Episode Teaser
Close Credits


Not this show though.

Yeah, the white man and Rose really almost made me cry.

A normal 1 Hour Show is supposed to have the following:
I'm not sure if it is the same this season, but last year there were about 18 minutes of commercials which was deemed pretty standard for an hour long drama. The theory was that Lost's unorthodox setup of commerical breaks made it seem like there were more commercials than there actually were.

Episode was "ok". Not all that exciting though. Hopefully get these conflicts out of the way soon so we can get on with the others and dharma sooner rather than later.

Kate looks like she's been pumping some iron :cool:

I think this was the best episode yet ... certainly the most emotional. LOST is not about excitement, it is about the characters. The story is just the vehicle ... it really is not the centre of this series .... it really is not that important. This is not an action series ... it that is what you are expecting you are watching the wrong program!

Did you notice that last shot with the 2 standing far apart ... it was so effective in the HD widescreen mode!

I think it is a good thing if you are taken away by the "others". I think that those who have been taken away are the "normal" people ... those that don't have any "skeletons" in their closets ... the ones that are messed up psychologically. That would explain why the children were removed.

Now we get to find out whats up with Kate. Why shes so messed up. THis plane was a disaster waiting to happen. I mean all people have some type of skeleton in there closet, doesnt have to be bad, but everyone on this plane had some issues, and that was too much weight for poor 815 to handle. BOOM, its on the island and the survivors have to deal with them.

Nooooooooooo! More backstories!!!

Not a very good ep IMHO. And the previews for next week don't look that exciting either. The slide continues.
Huh? :confused: Lost has been about backstories since day one. If you're looking for validation that the show is "sliding," you ain't gonna get it from me. I think tonight's episode proves why Lost is one of the most-watched shows on television. <insert standard "if you don't want to watch a character-based show watch CSI/rent a DVD" rebuttal here>

Learning that Ana lost a baby because some thief shot her, and then to see how she didn't want to prosecute him because in her anger she wanted revenge ... and then to see that both Sayid and Ana were willing to be killed by the other because they have difficulty living with themselves because of the way they have treated others in the past -- tonight's episode was smashing. Shows their humanity and the goodness in each of them to see such deep regret for what they have done and how their lives have turned out.

The reunions were pretty awesome. I'm curious to see what's going to happen between Ana and Jack.

Ana's backstory blew me away. I'm anxious to see what Kate's is all about. If you Ana haters can't have a little more sympathy for the gal after tonight, then, you're ... well ... inhumane!

BTW - do we know if the guy they mentioned in Ana's life that left is a boyfriend, or a husband? I assume he was the father of the child she lost, but we don't even know that, do we?

If you Ana haters can't have a little more sympathy for the gal after tonight, then, you're ... well ... inhumane!

BTW - do we know if the guy they mentioned in Ana's life that left is a boyfriend, or a husband? I assume he was the father of the child she lost, but we don't even know that, do we?

I bet she's in Australia running from the law. I mean, they catch the guy who shot her and he confesses, then she says "oh thats not him" and he gets let go. Next thing you know he has 6 bullets in him, probably from a police issue gun....

Yeah, I feel sorry for her :rolleyes:

And speaking of this... WTF is a PREGNANT WOMAN doing being a street cop???

And speaking of this... WTF is a PREGNANT WOMAN doing being a street cop???

She probably was not that far along and was hiding it ... she is a woman who does everything her own way!

I thought this was a great episode. AL's backstory helped understand her actions on the island. It's obvious she was wacko way before the plane crash and doesn't have any qualms about shooting or killing someone. I think she and Sayid will end up hanging together because they are soulmates.

Not really sure I'd classify her as wacko...

Because she hesitated, she was shot and her unborn child was killed. It also resulted in the end of her relationship with her husband (she wears a wedding ring still?).

She got her revenge, but it likely got her kicked off the force.

So here she is in the middle of the jungle, an entire group of people depending on her...one of her group has likely been abducted, and the voices have started coming from all directions.

A screaming woman bursts through the bushes, and she decides not to hesitate this time, as the price was too high the first time.

She fully expects Sayid will want revenge and come after her for the death of a loved one, because it's exactly what she did.

She made a mistake, a stupid mistake, and she's a good enough person that it is tearing her up. She'll pull through I think.

THe pregnant cop thing was done on Third Watch by 2 female officers. Detective Faith Yokas, and Demoted Detective, former Ratbastard Monroe were both pregnant on the job. Faith didnt lose the baby, she had it aborted, would have been her 3rd child, but MONROE did lose her baby when she was shot by Officer BOSCO, when she was fighting with a Perp. Every story has been done before, but its fun gettin involved in these peoples lives for a day. If you dont want to watch a show based on characters and there lives, this show isnt for you, should have realized that from the 2nd episode of season 1.

hmmm.....I think Jack's reaction has to be about something more...besides, after everthing he's been through do you think he would remember the name of a women he meet for 2 minutes over a month ago. Somone mentioned they thought he was reacting to the term mistake or perhaps finding out shannon was shot. Can't wait to see next weeks show - it looks good!

It was definitely recognition....looks like she made an impression (probably a good one). And now she's made another impression (not so good :-)

I just find that it has fallen into the same repetitive groove: backstory-raise new questions-answer none-show misleading previews-repeat.Speaking of repetitive grooves, this is another in a nearly year-long series of Dynot posts on the subject of Lost.. They all have roughly the same structure/content:

After watching the episode live every Wednesday, come straight to AVS forum to complain about this week's episode having too much backstory and not enough "moving the story forward" (or similar intangible measure of "good")
project the demise of the series as a result of this ostensibly undesirable style of storytelling
threaten to discontinue watching the program "if this continues."
repeat
repeat
:rolleyes:

Get a new schtick, Dynot. This one's about to expire after a year of use.

I think it is a good thing if you are taken away by the "others". I think that those who have been taken away are the "normal" people ... those that don't have any "skeletons" in their closets ... the ones that are messed up psychologically. That would explain why the children were removed.

To walk around in your barefeet, dragging a dirty old teddybear. How is that a good thing for the children?

While we call them "backstories", these looks into a characters past actually do move the story forward, allowing us understand the reasoning behind a character's actions.

Nooooooooooo! More backstories!!!

Not a very good ep IMHO. And the previews for next week don't look that exciting either. The slide continues.
Ok, I've had it with the trolls...Dynot, quit watching the show and just go away, would you? Better yet, you're now on my ignore list...

Which one of you other "too many backstories/too slow/we never learn anything" whiners out there is next?

Sheesh...

~Dan

Yeah, the white man and Rose really almost made me cry.

Zing :D

Of course, this is a JJ Abrams show. The setup so far is that the Others are evil people doing bad things and it appears from our view of their actions that that is true. But we have yet to see a backstory on an Other. Maybe Goodwin was right...that they are not attacking so much as rescuing.

It's interesting that we still have "Desmond" & "Rousseau" running around loose in the Jungle and I wonder if they'll pop-up again before the end of season 2?

But the BIG question I want an answer to is...

With "Shannon" dead... whom is "Sayid" going to hook-up with now?

With "Shannon" dead... whom is "Sayid" going to hook-up with now?
After Ana told Sayid to pick up the gun, when he stood up, he was standing quite close to Ana ... It seemed kind of passionate to me. --> I see a ... LOVE PENTAGRAM! (Jack/Kate/Saywer/Ana/Sayid) :D

Couple of things I noticed:

They're awfully cavalier about their finite supply of golf balls. If Kate snap-hooks one on the beach, it sleeps with the fishes. Okay, so in the vast pantheon of these people's troubles, that's not so bad.

Someone needs to post a screencap of Locke's crossword puzzle. You just know that thing's riddled with clues.

AnnaLucia had both guns, right? Then she gave Sayid's back to him?

Eko and Sayid sure did clean up well after being absolutely coated in mud. Is there a Darma shower bunker somewhere out there in the forest?

Did AnnaLucia really shoot that robber dude or was she just dreaming about what she'd like to do to him? I can't believe she'd throw away her career, indeed her life, on a whim of revenge. But that would explain what she was doing in Australia - running from the law just like Kate.

Sun keeps standing there washing her clothes in salt water when all the rest of the "middies" are running for the newly arrived group of "tailies". Then she notices Jin. C'mon.

More Locke! We need more Locke. It seems as though this year brings a closer focus on a few characters each episode at the expense of the others (not The Others). Last year it seemed that more characters were involved in the story each week. This year, they get a lot of time off. Pity they have to live in Hawaii, huh?

In the last scene with the face-off between Jack and AnnaLucia, they were both standing at the edges of my HD screen. Looked like they would have been completely off the screen in SD. Maybe I've just got too much overscan. :D

A normal 1 Hour Show is supposed to have the following:

Opening Teaser
Title
Commercial
Act 1
Commercial
Act 2
Commercial
Act 3
Commercial
Act 4
Commercial
Act 5
Commercial
Next Episode Teaser
Close Credits


Not this show though.



Half hour show has 5 blocks. Hour show has 9.

The only thing that bothered me about last night's episode was the relationship between AL and her boss. It is just about impossible to believe that she was working for her mother as her supervisor. A secondary quibble would be how readily she was able to complain and get back on a beat. On the other hand, I'm glad we got some substance to explain why she was such a wack job.

YMMV

After Ana told Sayid to pick up the gun, when he stood up, he was standing quite close to Ana ... It seemed kind of passionate to me. --> I see a ... LOVE PENTAGRAM! (Jack/Kate/Saywer/Ana/Sayid) :D... charlie/claire/locke... ;)

But the BIG question I want an answer to is...

With "Shannon" dead... whom is "Sayid" going to hook-up with now?

Ana, of course!

Eko and Sayid sure did clean up well after being absolutely coated in mud. Is there a Darma shower bunker somewhere out there in the forest?


Speaking of, Sayid was kicking Eko's butt until AL stepped in. He's a feisty little guy.

He's a feisty little guy.

AL?

Sayid saw a long dry spell coming on - and like Eddie Murphy said in 48 Hours: "Lack of p**** makes you brave".

Sun keeps standing there washing her clothes in salt water when all the rest of the "middies" are running for the newly arrived group of "tailies". Then she notices Jin. C'mon.


This might be because it is her way of dealing with difficult situations.

AL?

First day in this thread? Anna Lucia

Ok, I've had it with the trolls...Dynot, quit watching the show and just go away, would you? Better yet, you're now on my ignore list...

Which one of you other "too many backstories/too slow/we never learn anything" whiners out there is next?

Sheesh...

~Dan

No trolling here. This is a discussion thread isn't it? And one can express his/her displeasure with an episode or series can't we. Perhaps the title of the thread can be changed to include "only favorable comments allowed" just to please the sensitive types. :rolleyes:

I read the threads because I like to see other people's opinions on the episodes. I don't bash them because, unlike Danny-boy here, I respect their opinion.

For those of you too offended by negative remarks, go ahead and use the ignore list. Censorship afterall isn't limited to communist China.

First day in this thread? Anna Lucia

Exactly.

I personally think Lost would be boring and meaningless without the back stories. It would remind me a lot of Survivor.

- Tom

TV's on in the background --- looked up and there's Michelle Rodriquez on stage with Carmen Electra and Alyssa Milano on "Rocking The Corps" (on INHD), all smiles and acting human. Maybe I'll cut her some slack from here on.

Happy Thanksgiving everybody!

In Rome on vacation.

Today, I was on a bus and it passed this shop with a sign over the door which simply said "OTHERS."

It looked like a clothes store. No shoes though. :D

In Rome on vacation.

Today, I was on a bus and it passed this shop with a sign over the door which simply said "OTHERS."

It looked like a clothes store. No shoes though. :D

HAH! Good one.

...nice HD commercials during Lost...

Lincoln and Sirius Radio. Finally, some commercials in HD on regular programming, so advertisers are finally coming around.

Curious for those that think AL may have been running from the law after shooting that dude....... If she was running from the law, why was she on this plane heading back to the States? Maybe the guilt caught up to her?

For the number theorists...
Ana-Lucia Cortez' squad car was "8 Adam 16"
4 Tail section survivors made it to the rest of the survivors

Other not so relevant things:
AL's husband was named Danny and he left her after the incident
AL's mother is the LAPD captain
AL's shooter was found in Echo/Eko park
Kate's mug shot was NOT seen in the LAPD office

Locke's crossword answers were all correct, except that the answer he was writing "Giglamesh", although correct did not fit with the other correct answers on the puzzle.

vegggas

In the last scene with the face-off between Jack and AnnaLucia, they were both standing at the edges of my HD screen. Looked like they would have been completely off the screen in SD. Maybe I've just got too much overscan. :D

I'm on the road in CA staying at a friend's with no HD and watched on an old Mitsu 55". Jack and AL were fully visible at the edges of the screen. Better check that overscan. :D

Locke's crossword answers were all correct, except that the answer he was writing "Giglamesh", although correct did not fit with the other correct answers on the puzzle.And if you google that, you get this link: http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/
..which I advise against reading if you're the least bit sleepy.

Anna Cortez is LAPD! :) That explains why she shoots so good!
And so often. :eek:

Weekly rant: where's the security system?

Thank you, I feel better. ;)

Perhaps the security system appears when the buttton is not pushed on time. This would answer the question of how Desmond managed to do this by himself, he didn't. Occasionally the S.S. would come out of its box when he dozed off.

FWIW, you may wish to check out Prison Break. Definitley the best show out there and would easily smoke Lost head-to-head.

I enjoy both shows, but Lost is a much better show than Prison Break.

i would assume she did kill that guy,

Three bullets to the chest and three more to the face. Yeah, she killed him.

I'm on the road in CA staying at a friend's with no HD and watched on an old Mitsu 55". Jack and AL were fully visible at the edges of the screen. Better check that overscan. :DYou are correct. Both actors were on extreme L+R screen edge in the SD broadcast (my question is: why would they not be?).

Has anyone else run across these party line dating service commercials starring Evangeline Lilly lately?

http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/lostgirl/lostgirl.html

wheni said , i assume she did kill the guy, i ment that she got her revenge, and did shoot the guy, and it wasnt a dream.

I also watch prison break, Lost and jj adams ALIAS, and I think all 3 are great shows. JJ had to deal with Jen Garners pregnancy this year and he remarkably changed the show to add more characters and take some of the big fight scenes away from Jen. Prison break on the other hand, has gotten alittle out of hand. Im actually happy its ending this monday cause I just want them to escape already. I thought it was goin to be a summer show, then they turned it into a fall show to hold us off till 24 starts in jan, and u can see where they extended the show to make it last longer. Its great, but LOst and Alias rain supreme.
wg

just realized something... AL works with/under her mother the same way Jack works with/under his father. Bet they'll be using that in a plot line sometime.

Alias will reign in rerun land. ABC announced its cancellation on Wednesday.

Alias will reign in rerun land. ABC announced its cancellation on Wednesday.

It's a mercy killing...first 2 seasons rocked...it's been a disappointment since. :-(

Alias is dead, long live LOST :-)

For the number theorists...
Ana-Lucia Cortez' squad car was "8 Adam 16"
4 Tail section survivors made it to the rest of the survivors

Other not so relevant things:
AL's husband was named Danny and he left her after the incident
AL's mother is the LAPD captain
AL's shooter was found in Echo/Eko park
Kate's mug shot was NOT seen in the LAPD office

Locke's crossword answers were all correct, except that the answer he was writing "Giglamesh", although correct did not fit with the other correct answers on the puzzle.

vegggas
Is that some connection to "Adam 12?" Their car was "4 Adam 12".

Is that some connection to "Adam 12?" Their car was "4 Adam 12".

Thought it was "1 Adam 12".(?)