I did not get a jeep add either. Only two of the names provide anything other then the error message - don't remember which two they were, but they didn't provide much content anyway - junk.

One of them ends up providing a password for the Hanso website.

"I did her" would've been a little more suitable to Sawyer's character, without crossing the line of the censors...

"I screwed her" sounds like something a High-Schooler (middle schooler?) might say...definitely more juvenile...

Perhaps, but it also has the dual meaning that he "screwed her over". If he hadn't been so gullible and allowed her to take the gun from him, she wouldn't be dead. He screwed her, and he screwed up.

Saywer - father a con man ?

Sawyer's father wasn't a con man. The real "Sawyer" was a con man who duped his mother. When his father found out he killed her and himself.

Seems to me that Jack's "5" tattoo was displayed a lot this episode. Could this be tied into the 5 people the Others want?

Compass website - pthompso is one of the names that you can get into the directory (ahanso takes you to the Hanso website). Evidently pthompso does purchasing for Hanso and ordered a fleet of Jeeps for Hanso. Sneaky sneaky

I agree that Michael throwing up outside the hatch was simply a sign of his being "ill" over his actions. Not only did it come right after he was cleaning up the most tangible of the results of his deeds, but also right after Eko's "sermon"... I think that would be enough to make most people feel a little sick if they had any kind of conscience.

How anybody could say this ep was filler is totally beyond comprehension. Many things revealed/confirmed, and lots of new things to ponder moving forward. It's like peeling an onion. Each layer uncovers a new one underneath, but ultimately gets you closer to the core.


ron

But who knows? Is it possible that they HAVE been on the island a long time, taking advantage of Hanso's Life Extension Program?

You may be on to something there.....

But I still say that Michael's sick, not just feeling guilty. His actions are not those of a healthy, sane individual in his right mind. Not even his obsession with "his boy" would ordinarily lead him to murder two people and act so completely shocked at what he had done, as if it was someone else altogether who had pulled the trigger. The Others did not threaten to kill Walt; murder was an unacceptable escalation. Somethin' ain't right with Mike.

why exactly couldnt the others have captured the ones who went looking for the balloon, then exchanged them for henry? ... basically i'm asking why did henry gale tell those people where to find the balloon when there was no 'trap' set for them, and he knew there was a chance that he would be found out as a liar...I can not speak for the man, but [Henry] had two good reasons:

First it could have supported his story, then given more freedom, he could escape or become a insider - a GOODWIN like plant (Good Wins?).

Secondly, he could have gambled that the others :
--- had this contingency mapped out and just did not find out in time to effect it.
--- been watching from the Pearl (or other means...) and picked up his hint and acted on it.

Either way, [Henry] comes out ahead, if Sayid does not dig up poor Mr. Gale.


As to why this did not happen, and Michael is sent in that roundabout manner,
the others may have specific reasons to limit contact:
--- unvaccinated disease carrying refugees.
--- need to limit contact for some experimental control issue.
--- selfish desire to conserve limited resources and unrelated to the island's initial purpose.
--- etc.

v/r,
C-F

good so i'm not the only one confused

--- been watching from the Pearl (or other means...) and picked up his hint and acted on it.

Can we all now agree that it was NOT Walt talking to Michael via 1980s ICQ?
So there is clearly some communication between hatches possible. Henry may have sent a message when he was supposed to be entering the code.

The Others did not threaten to kill Walt

Michael did see that Walt was scared and asked him to help.
Michael did hear the woman say he would never see Walt again if he failed.

Sure, you say that he's acting irrational. But how would YOU act if someone was hurting your kids and you felt you had to do one nigh-on impossible deed in order to save them?

Compass website - pthompso is one of the names that you can get into the directory (ahanso takes you to the Hanso website). Evidently pthompso does purchasing for Hanso and ordered a fleet of Jeeps for Hanso. Sneaky sneaky

Have fun with these: http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com/usr/pthompso/mail/

Is anyone else here familiar with the legendary short film Gravity featuring a white-coated scientist named Dr. Waxman who helms an experimental lab on gravitational research? I can't help but wonder whether LOST's Dr. Waxman/Candle is named after this character, especially considering the unique gravitational and magnetic properties of The Island. This short film also dates from the late 1970s, about the same era as most of the Dharma technology we've seen so far.

A quick synopsis of Gravity:


In 1976, aspiring filmmakers David Wechter and Michael Nankin created a short parody of 1950s educational films called GRAVITY. It tells the tale of little Mary Jane, who wants to know what makes the sun set. She bounces from family member to family member, but none of them seem to know the answer. Her trip to see her BIG SISTER is particularly memorable (for the audience), as a topless Sis is too busy receiving...er, oral pleasure from her boyfriend under the sheets to answer the question. It's up to her grade school teacher to inform her that GRAVITY is what pulls the sun down at night. Mary Jane eventually ends up at the Karl LaFong Institute for Gravitational Research, where the esteemed Dr. Thornton Waxman educates her on the impending gravity shortage and cartoon hero Jiminy Gravity sends us home with a catchy ditty on how we can help.


I haven't been able to find an online version of this short film yet but will post a link if I do.

Michael's an idiot because it boils down to him trusting the Others over Jack & Co.

What exactly have the Others done that makes Michael think that they are worthy of that trust?

Michael did see that Walt was scared and asked him to help.
Michael did hear the woman say he would never see Walt again if he failed.

Sure, you say that he's acting irrational. But how would YOU act if someone was hurting your kids and you felt you had to do one nigh-on impossible deed in order to save them?

I certainly wouldn't have murdered 2 people in cold blood! Once again, <sigh> Walt was not being threatened with death if Michael didn't do what Ms. Klugh wanted, and they weren't hurting him either - he appeared to be in good health and not even terribly frightened. Good grief; I can't believe we're even trying to debate this!?

Surely there were other ways to accomplish the goal.... Michael now knows where Walt is! A plan could have been developed with his fellow castaways to retrieve Walt w/out resorting to killing two people. Perhaps a trade for Henry could have been attempted, who knows, but again, somethin' clearly ain't right with Mike.

Michael's an idiot because it boils down to him trusting the Others over Jack & Co.

What exactly have the Others done that makes Michael think that they are worthy of that trust?

Stockholm syndrome? (Just playing Devil's advocate - I still think he's "sick". ;) )

Clancy was the American officer in Iraq working with Sayid. He is NOT Zeke. IMDB says John Inman or something.

Zeke is M.C. Gainey:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0301370/

sorry about that. Guess it's time to quit sniffing glue :)

Have fun with these: http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com/usr/pthompso/mail/

I clicked on the inbox and deciphered the binary code:

01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001101 01101111 01110101 01110100 01101000 00100000 01010000 01101001 01100101 01100011 01100101

= The Mouth Piece

No one can verify that Miss Klugh (the woman who interrogated Michael) was Walt's mother's attorney?

Michael's an idiot because it boils down to him trusting the Others over Jack & Co.

What exactly have the Others done that makes Michael think that they are worthy of that trust?and this is after Walt said "they are not what they appear to be..."

I clicked on the inbox and deciphered the binary code:

01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001101 01101111 01110101 01110100 01101000 00100000 01010000 01101001 01100101 01100011 01100101

= The Mouth Piece

Also, this phrase has been inserted into one of the old Jeep ads.

Here's a close up of that new door symbol. Not sure what to make of it, but I don't think it's on the blast door map?

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4708/2679/1600/dharmalogonew.jpg

Is anyone else here familiar with the legendary short film Gravity featuring a white-coated scientist named Dr. Waxman who helms an experimental lab on gravitational research? I can't help but wonder whether LOST's Dr. Waxman/Candle is named after this character, especially considering the unique gravitational and magnetic properties of The Island. This short film also dates from the late 1970s, about the same era as most of the Dharma technology we've seen so far.

A quick synopsis of Gravity:

I haven't been able to find an online version of this short film yet but will post a link if I do.

http://www.us.imdb.com/title/tt0156579/In this spoof of public-school educational films, young Mary Jane asks the question, "What is gravity?" After asking various (dysfunctional) family members without success, she then asks Dr. Waxman of the Karl LaFong Foundation for Gravitational Research (motto: "heads in the clouds and feet on the ground"), who explains that gravity is caused by a substance named GR12. Unfortunately, the world is running out of GR12. The cartoon character Jiminy Gravity then explains (in song) how we can conserve gravity with such practices as sitting on the floor and carrying helium balloons.

http://www.microcinefest.org/MCF2004/FriSatSun2004.htmlGravity - David Wechter & Michael Nankin, 8.5 minutes, 1976
http://www.microcinefest.org/images/Gravity6.jpg
In this classic parody of 50’s educational films, a young Mary Jane’s curiosity about what makes the sun set leads her to the world famous Dr. Thornton Waxman of the Carl LaFong Foundation for Gravitational Research. There she learns about the Earth’s gravity shortage and is instructed on how to take part in a “gravity conservation program” courtesy of an animated musical number from Jiminy Gravity. This early short from the makers of Disney’s MIDNIGHT MADNESS built up a cult following thanks to late night showings on cable’s Night Flight in the 80s.

I certainly wouldn't have murdered 2 people in cold blood! Once again, <sigh> Walt was not being threatened with death if Michael didn't do what Ms. Klugh wanted, and they weren't hurting him either - he appeared to be in good health and not even terribly frightened. Good grief; I can't believe we're even trying to debate this!?

Surely there were other ways to accomplish the goal.... Michael now knows where Walt is! A plan could have been developed with his fellow castaways to retrieve Walt w/out resorting to killing two people. Perhaps a trade for Henry could have been attempted, who knows, but again, somethin' clearly ain't right with Mike.

Well I'm not sure how you can say what you would or would not do until you are in the situation. I would like to think that I would not result to something as nasty as murder, but then again you never know until you're in the middle of it. The others might not of said they were going to kill Walt, but it could be taken as implied. Think about it, all Michael knows is that the others have kidnapped and killed others and now they have his son and won't give him up. They are running "tests" on him and he appears very scared. Why would Michael think Walt would be safe. I'm not sure if he planned to kill anyone, but an opportunity presented itself to him when he finds out where Henry is and there is a gun within reach and he made a choice at that very moment, perhpas he saw no other way.

I dunno...Michael annoys the hell out of me as well, but I think his behavior can be easily explained by the stress/fear he is under. I don't think his actions are unbelievable for his situation.

especially considering the unique gravitational properties of The Island.

I must have missed the levitation scene.

The real "Sawyer" was a con man who duped his mother. When his father found out he killed her and himself. Thanks. Three deaths of unnatural causes. And a bunch of question marks.

Jack - father dead, was a prominent doctor, drank himself to death (?) as a result of Jack's action
Saywer - father dead, suicide after murdering his mother, who was duped by a con man
Kate - real father a loser, dead (killed by Kate), stepfather was in Iraq, currently ?
Charlie - ?
Hugo - ?
Claire - Jack's father may be hers, too
Locke - father stole his Kidney, pretended to be dead, whereabouts unknown, rich
Sun - father a Korean gangster, rich
Jin - father a fisherman
Michael - who cares?
Walt - only one whose father is on the island
baby Aaron - father a deadbeat back in Australia
Eko - ?
Sayid - ?
Bernard - ?
Rose - ?

Charlie - ?
Sayid - ?

Charlie's father was a butcher who thought that he should not have become a musician.

Sayid's father was an heroic Iraqi soldier.

Well I'm not sure how you can say what you would or would not do until you are in the situation. I would like to think that I would not result to something as nasty as murder, but then again you never know until you're in the middle of it. The others might not of said they were going to kill Walt, but it could be taken as implied. Think about it, all Michael knows is that the others have kidnapped and killed others and now they have his son and won't give him up. They are running "tests" on him and he appears very scared. Why would Michael think Walt would be safe. I'm not sure if he planned to kill anyone, but an opportunity presented itself to him when he finds out where Henry is and there is a gun within reach and he made a choice at that very moment, perhpas he saw no other way.

I dunno...Michael annoys the hell out of me as well, but I think his behavior can be easily explained by the stress/fear he is under. I don't think his actions are unbelievable for his situation.

Still idiotic choices that he made regardless of his level of stress. Most of us would do anything to get our kids back, even kill, but why kill the people that could help you get them back? They have the numbers and the weapons, and the fact that the Others need Michael to free the fake Henry would lead a normal person to believe that they are unable/afraid to try and take on the losties themselves.

As annoying as it may have been on screen (My BOY!, My BOY!), I was never bothered about Michael's drive to get Walt cause I can't imagine any father that wouldn't be single-minded of purpose in that situation. What bothers me now is that he's a moron when it comes to how to achieve the recovery of Walt.

Bottom line: I don't question his drive or extreme motivation, I question his intellect.

Did anyone else get the feeling when Walt was screaming, "I love you, dad!" over and over that he was just playing Michael, and is really in it with the Others now?

Did Michael know Hurley's real name before he got the list from the Others?

Bottom line: I don't question his drive or extreme motivation, I question his intellect.

guess I can't argue with that :D

Did Michael know Hurley's real name before he got the list from the Others?

I wondered the same thing...I don't think he did, but I guess it really doesn't matter.

What other phrase would have been appropriately vulgar for Sawyer, while still sounding authentic, but also acceptable over the network?They could bleep it.. a la Family Guy, or that Jay Mohr sitcom that was on a few years back.

Or better yet, the sound of the countdown clock could have overpowered his voice at the strategic time :)

yup, Clancy Brown is Mr. Friendly/Zeke:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000317/No no no! Mr. Friendly/Zeke is M.C. Gainey.. he played Roscoe P. Coltraine in the new Dukes of Hazzard movie.

Did anyone else get the feeling when Walt was screaming, "I love you, dad!" over and over that he was just playing Michael, and is really in it with the Others now?


Yes. Me. Walts only really known his dad for what, 2 months now? And he didn't really want to go with him anyway.

"I did her" would've been a little more suitable to Sawyer's character, without crossing the line of the censors...

"I screwed her" sounds like something a High-Schooler (middle schooler?) might say...definitely more juvenile...
Hey man, his lady just got whacked, it was just 2 dudes bonding. From his reactions I would say he is pissed and re-thinking what he said is not a priority right now.

Not really "his" lady.

Did Michael know Hurley's real name before he got the list from the Others?

No, he didn't and Hurley realizes that and is now suspicious of Michael for that reason. H figures that Michael had contact with the Others he hasn't disclosed.

Still idiotic choices that he made regardless of his level of stress. Most of us would do anything to get our kids back, even kill, but why kill the people that could help you get them back? They have the numbers and the weapons, and the fact that the Others need Michael to free the fake Henry would lead a normal person to believe that they are unable/afraid to try and take on the losties themselves.

As annoying as it may have been on screen (My BOY!, My BOY!), I was never bothered about Michael's drive to get Walt cause I can't imagine any father that wouldn't be single-minded of purpose in that situation. What bothers me now is that he's a moron when it comes to how to achieve the recovery of Walt.

Bottom line: I don't question his drive or extreme motivation, I question his intellect.

Put me on the list of those annoyed by the incessant "Walt! Walt! Walt! My Boy!!!"

There were lots of options Michael had short of murdering his companions and leading other companions to gawd knows what fate in foolish blind trust of the Others to get his boy back. Selfish, stupid, self-absorbed and shortsighted.

Still idiotic choices that he made regardless of his level of stress. Most of us would do anything to get our kids back, even kill, but why kill the people that could help you get them back? They have the numbers and the weapons, and the fact that the Others need Michael to free the fake Henry would lead a normal person to believe that they are unable/afraid to try and take on the losties themselves.

As annoying as it may have been on screen (My BOY!, My BOY!), I was never bothered about Michael's drive to get Walt cause I can't imagine any father that wouldn't be single-minded of purpose in that situation. What bothers me now is that he's a moron when it comes to how to achieve the recovery of Walt.

Bottom line: I don't question his drive or extreme motivation, I question his intellect.At this point I think Michael's intellect shouldn't be questioned. He IS an idiot :). At least I've thought so all along.

All throughout Michael's backstory flashbacks, they have shown him to not be the sharpest tool in the shed. He's driven by emotions and a hothead. Same thing with all his actions on the island. How many people has he had altercations with or confronted about various things? Has he ever really acted rationally in the things we've seen him do? He's just dumb, emotional, erratic and acts first without thinking. One of those people that's on the edge and ready to go off at any time.

He already didn't particularly like AL because she had thrown him in a pit, and talked her group out of helping him go after walt. He was desperate when she told him she was going to shoot HG, and he did what he always seems to do. He snapped, freaked out, and acted on emotion without thinking it through. And he even said he was sorry before he did it. Libby was clearly a totally unplanned, reactionary thing. He looked horrified as soon as he shot her.

Add in the stress of his whole situation in the last couple months, combined with the abduction of his son and I could see him doing just about anything.

And really, there are plenty of people in this world that kill other people every day, that are not "sick" from some LOST virus (or plane wrecked/stranded on some wacky island with all kinds bad sh*t going down all around them).

One thing I will say though. It seems like the writers have done the same thing with Michael that they have done so well with several other characters. They have dropped just enough little indications here and there that could lead one way or the other with him to keep you guessing and question what his real story is.


ron

I clicked on the inbox and deciphered the binary code:

01010100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01001101 01101111 01110101 01110100 01101000 00100000 01010000 01101001 01100101 01100011 01100101

= The Mouth Piece

FWIW, the hmcintyr/ folder leads you to a Jeep CJ7 Hatch video, with the Dharma logo appearing at the end. Some lettering above the logo, but can't make it out.

Tony.

wayyy too much time on my hands....

Did anyone else get the feeling when Walt was screaming, "I love you, dad!" over and over that he was just playing Michael, and is really in it with the Others now?

Quite frankly, no. But we shall see...

Frak! Can't believe I went to sleep. The last thing I remember was the Hanso commercial. If I'm not mistaken, I thought someone said the kid who plays Walt was on Jimmy Kimmel (I was probably unconcious when I heard that). I may try and watch the stuttery replay @ ABC's website.



Gold?24K, as in Krrrazy.

No one can verify that Miss Klugh (the woman who interrogated Michael) was Walt's mother's attorney?No. The lady who grilled Micheal at the custody arbitration was definitely caucasian. Mike would've remembered her, surely.

FWIW, the hmcintyr/ folder leads you to a Jeep CJ7 Hatch video, with the Dharma logo appearing at the end. Some lettering above the logo, but can't make it out.


Anybody want to try to make this out, or sharpen it someway?

ECHO ME or ECHO MR?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=57691&stc=1

ECHO ME UTES GIT.....?

Did I miss the discussion of Eko's highly magnetic jewelry? Seemed important...

Did I miss the discussion of Eko's highly magnetic jewelry? Seemed important...

Same thing happened to Jack's key when they first entered the bunker many episodes back.

ECHO ME UTES GIT.....?

ECHO ME UTEP HIT

Fact that Michael insists on going to war with Hurley instead of Sayid or any other more fit person should raise all kinds of suspicion.

You could say the same thing about Kate, unless they know about her prowess with the gun.

But Hurley would be a huge liabiity.

ECHO ME UTEP HITUTEP could be Texas-El Paso, but the rest I dunno...
:p

OK - no one thinks it worth mentioning that Locke pulls his knife, skins off his brace, and walks off into the sunset?

You know he's off to find Walt/the others on his own.

I think we all expected him to heal quickly - but he and Eko are out of the Michael/Walt "loop" so I don't expect him to mount a rescue mission.

UTEP could be Texas-El Paso, but the rest I dunno...
:p


I can tell ya in PM if ya want or bump up the games thread with the answer in a spoiler tag :D

Maybe already talked about, but I don't remember Michael knowing Hurley's real name. And when Michael first asked Hurley to join in, he called him Hugo. Could be that Hurley realizes this and throws another wrench into the mix, besides whatever Sayid's planning.

Evangeline Lilly on TONITE SHOW, was freakin histerical. SHe told stories of SPAM festivals in Hawaii, her road rage, and hitting like 10 cars and or people, did 10 pushups on her Knuckles, and told a story about how when she was young she ate a slug, and had drank her friends URINE. Shes smoking hot, and deff has a great personality. SHe was also a GREASE MONKEY for a big rig company, and knows a lot about cars. Great show with her on, no spoilers for LOST THis coming week.

Lost this past week was awesome, we saw another hatch, got to see Michaels jorney, as annoying as he was, we got to see Walt again. They bury the 2 ladies, sad to see some more of our losties go, but it was a crazy last 2 weeks with shootings of familar faces on popular shows. You know its the end of the season when someone on a show dies that is close to our hearts. LoST FInale showd be great, Cant wait til next season already.
Wg

The big question is who will be the next to die on LOST. I believe it will be Michael. This is a show where any character can and will die! I think that is one of the big attractions of the show ... you never know what the writers are going to hit us with next!

Maybe they are on Big Brother 7?

Maybe the others are really the writers of the show and Michael's list of 5 was of the characters for which contract negotiations have failed. They are all toast! ;)

- Tom

Maybe the others are really the writers of the show and Michael's list of 5 was of the characters for which contract negotiations have failed. They are all toast! ;)

- Tom

List of 4.

List of 4.
Damn, we lost one already?! :D :D

4 + Michael.

Evangeline Lilly on TONITE SHOW, was freakin histerical. SHe told stories of SPAM festivals in Hawaii, her road rage, and hitting like 10 cars and or people, did 10 pushups on her Knuckles, and told a story about how when she was young she ate a slug, and had drank her friends URINE. Shes smoking hot, and deff has a great personality. SHe was also a GREASE MONKEY for a big rig company, and knows a lot about cars.
Wg
You forgot to mention the comment she made about a strap-on. :eek:

OK - no one thinks it worth mentioning that Locke pulls his knife, skins off his brace, and walks off into the sunset?

Locke was sitting all day in the particular spot on the island that has the right "healing energy" for him. He knew exactly what he was doing, and when he was ready, he matter-of-factly removed the brace and walked again without crutches.

I'm a fan of the character Eko, but he actually annoyed me this week. He turned into a button-pushing zombie. I hope the preview image of Locke smashing the computer wasn't a misdirect.

Locke was sitting all day in the particular spot on the island that has the right "healing energy" for him. He knew exactly what he was doing, and when he was ready, he matter-of-factly removed the brace and walked again without crutches.

Wow, very interesting. I had never considered that before.

I wonder if that was the exact spot where he woke up after the crash.

Wow, very interesting. I had never considered that before.

I wonder if that was the exact spot where he woke up after the crash.

If you'll recall, we frequently saw he and Rose sitting isolated on a part of the beach in the first season.

If you'll recall, we frequently saw he and Rose sitting isolated on a part of the beach in the first season.

I'm wondering now if that was after he briefly lost the use of his legs in Season 1...

Insert code the mouth piece into the password box of Hugh McIntyre on the Hanso website. Weirdness happens. Then click on the highlighted "family values....." bit and get video of woman after words from Persephone. Click on video and get more weirdness - lots of falling objects. The pink squares are clickable but are falling too fast for me to actually click one. Anyone successfully click one?

Fact that Michael insists on going to war with Hurley instead of Sayid or any other more fit person should raise all kinds of suspicion.
Absolutely. I mean the dude is "spry" and everything, but he's no master of stealth and war. Why didn't Jack and Sawyer give a WTF when Michael brought up his name? And we've already seen how well Kate did against the Others when her head ended up in one of their bags. Thank God Sayid has a brain.

Watching the episode again, I loved how Sayid pretended to agree with Michael's plan. The look of agreement and sympathy on Sayid's face is so phony even Michael had to do a double take after they shook hands.

I think the art directors are doing their best to make the Other's medieval village look as phony-primitive as possible to clue us in. I saw more convincing sets and costumes in "Teenage Caveman" and a dozen other Roger Corman movies (come to think of it, they were all the same sets and costumes).

Why didn't Michael come up with an even better story to get the chosen five to follow him? The most surprising thing is what he told them was actually what he saw -- there are about twenty Others, they live in tents and teepees, many of them are women, they have a bunker with armed guards, and they look pissed. How about saying that 90% of them are hot women who run around naked, and they need the help of strong viral men? ;)

How about saying that 90% of them are hot women who run around naked, and they need the help of strong viral men? ;)

Hope they have plenty of vaccine ;)

No question they better have some hot chicks in the bunker. The existing ones are dropping like flies.

Hope they have plenty of vaccine ;)
Damn, the Php spell checker said it was the right word! :D

Any suggestions about the boat? Where did it come from?, Who is in it? Maybe its Tom Hanks from Cast Away..

Any suggestions about the boat? Where did it come from?, Who is in it? Maybe its Tom Hanks from Cast Away..

As I mentioned a couple of pages back, I think it's Desmond's yacht he was using for his 'round-the-world race. It's certainly not the boat The Others used to kidnap Walt (that may have been the boat they promised Michael, however).

And we've already seen how well Kate did against the Others when her head ended up in one of their bags.

Well, here's the real question: Why didn't they keep Jack, Sawyer and Kate when they had them earlier in the season?

Hell, they could have probably convinced Locke to stay with them too, simply by saying "the island wants you to come with us, John"...

That's 75% of the list right there. And after the two leaders have disappeared, Hurley could be pretty readily convinced.

Well, here's the real question: Why didn't they keep Jack, Sawyer and Kate when they had them earlier in the season?



Because it's not as effective as a Psych experiment to do it that way. ;)

Michael's an idiot because it boils down to him trusting the Others over Jack & Co.

What exactly have the Others done that makes Michael think that they are worthy of that trust?

Exactly...the Others have done nothing but kill, kidnap, and lie. How can he possibly take them at their word?

Exactly...the Others have done nothing but kill, kidnap, and lie. How can he possibly take them at their word?

Um, because he's sick and not thinking clearly. Just sayin'...

Um, because he's sick. Just sayin'...

LOL ok :-)

It's my theory, dadgumit, and I'm stickin' to it. :p

Exactly...the Others have done nothing but kill, kidnap, and lie. How can he possibly take them at their word?That's a bit like the pot calling the kettle black. Our Losties have also done those three things. ;)

As I mentioned a couple of pages back, I think it's Desmond's yacht he was using for his 'round-the-world race. It's certainly not the boat The Others used to kidnap Walt (that may have been the boat they promised Michael, however).

I think it might infact be Desmond's [sail] boat which he used to escape from the impending doom at the start of the season. He might not have gotten far from the island, and must have fainted from exhaustion after living off the sea for a few days, and the current brought his boat back to the islan - just like the Losties' raft ended up washed back to the shore.

I think we will see Desmond fainted in the boat as it draws near the shore next week.

...Why didn't Michael come up with an even better story to get the chosen five to follow him?...)

Four, not five.

One of the biggest head-scratchers for me in the last episode was how the Others (or at least Miss Clue) had the never-used real/full names of the losties they wanted. That seems to eliminate the possibility that the losties were just coincidentally on a doomed flight, if anyone were still entertaining that possibility.

I think it might infact be Desmond's [sail] boat which he used to escape from the impending doom at the start of the season. He might not have gotten far from the island, and must have fainted from exhaustion after living off the sea for a few days, and the current brought his boat back to the islan - just like the Losties' raft ended up washed back to the shore.

I think we will see Desmond fainted in the boat as it draws near the shore next week.

:confused: IIRC, in his story to Locke and Jack when they found Desmond in the bunker, did not Desmond say his boat broke up, which was why he had to abandon his 'round the world cruise? :confused: If so, I suppose he could have lied.

Insert code the mouth piece into the password box of Hugh McIntyre on the Hanso website. Weirdness happens. Then click on the highlighted "family values....." bit and get video of woman after words from Persephone. Click on video and get more weirdness - lots of falling objects. The pink squares are clickable but are falling too fast for me to actually click one. Anyone successfully click one?

It is rather difficult but I have gotten a couple. They are receipts from a hotel and restaurants. I think the implication is that McIntyre is cheating on his wife and persephone has caught some funny business on tape and from expense reports. With the other stuff on the hans website stating that Hanso hasn't been seen in years, McIntyre is next in line and a bad guy who also falsified his credentials from Caltech.

A huge amount of effort in keeping all these secrets on the website and very well done. Eventually this will tie in with the actual TV show. I hope.

ECHO ME UTES GIT.....?
Get out of my uterus, Echo!

Well, here's the real question: Why didn't they keep Jack, Sawyer and Kate when they had them earlier in the season?Because they didn't really have them. When that episode originally aired, there was a lot of discussion abut the real number of Others that were in the jungle surrounding the Losties. Despite the screen cap that was posted at the time, I saw no evidence in this latest episode of the 10 or 15 Others that would have been necessary to hold each of the torches. In fact, Zeke told the "doctor" (I only use that term because he drew Michael's blood, but I could have done a better job) to "get the torches ready". They all lit up in sync, and this episode made it clear to me that the Others were actually outnumbered by the Losties.
One other thought: Why do they keep taking Sawyer on the A-Team assignments? At least make him wear his glasses so he'll be able to actually hit something if he shoots. Just don't let him get into a fist fight.

One other thought: Why do they keep taking Sawyer on the A-Team assignments? At least make him wear his glasses so he'll be able to actually hit something if he shoots.
He's far-sighted. He can see distant objects but can't focus on close objects like books.

He's far-sighted.Well now he has no excuse, does he? Or maybe he can't line up the sights properly.

[blah, blah, blah]

...A huge amount of effort in keeping all these secrets on the website and very well done. Eventually this will tie in with the actual TV show. I hope.
There's a separate thread for you geeks to talk about games and codes and web site bullsh*t. Please use it. :rolleyes:

Get out of my uterus, Echo!

ROFLMAO!!! :D :D

Well now he has no excuse, does he? Or maybe he can't line up the sights properly.He can't even draw his gun properly. His opponents always get the drop on him. :rolleyes:

There's a separate thread for you geeks to talk about games and codes and web site bullsh*t. Please use it. :rolleyes:

Where?

Because they didn't really have them. When that episode originally aired, there was a lot of discussion abut the real number of Others that were in the jungle surrounding the Losties. Despite the screen cap that was posted at the time, I saw no evidence in this latest episode of the 10 or 15 Others that would have been necessary to hold each of the torches. In fact, Zeke told the "doctor" (I only use that term because he drew Michael's blood, but I could have done a better job) to "get the torches ready". They all lit up in sync, and this episode made it clear to me that the Others were actually outnumbered by the Losties.


I agree. If they're had been more, why did only the four or five others return to the camp?

Anyway, on another subject, episodes of Lost are now available for free at abc.com. Since my DVR once again cut out one minute b4 the end, I missed the boat sighting. I just tried to watch it on ABC's site. You can't forward through the commercials, but you CAN jump to sections of the program between commercials. So I jumped to the point two minutes b4 the end to catch what I had missed.

it played until Sun said "boat", then they showed the boat, then it stopped!!! Even ABC can't seem to get the last minute!

Edit: I tried a few more times and finally it played. Really all I learned (other than what has already been posted), was that my DVR only cut out the last 20 seconds, not a full minute, unless you count the previews, in which case it cut out about 3 minutes.

BTW, ABC.com does not show the previews.

Where?
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=674079

There's a separate thread for you geeks to talk about games and codes and web site bullsh*t. Please use it. :rolleyes:

There's a friendly chap. :rolleyes:

There's a friendly chap. :rolleyes:Hey, I said "Please." :p

You don't want to get me started on you, Mister "Four, not five" (times 2) :cool:

Hey, I said "Please." :p

You don't want to get me started on you, Mister "Four, not five" (times 2) :cool:

:eek:

You don't want to get me started on you, Mister "Four, not five" (times 2) :cool:
Except that he's right: the list has FOUR names on it, not five...

If the State says there are Five names on the list, how many names do you see...
Get the rat cage.

BTW, ABC.com does not show the previews.

You can find the preview(s) here:

http://abc.go.com/fsp/index.html?channel=Lost

Except that he's right: the list has FOUR names on it, not five...

Michael is the fifth. The Others expect him to return as well.

If the State says there are Five names on the list, how many names do you see...
T h e r e . . . a r e . . . F O U R . . . n a m e s !

(Thank you Jean Luc for a memorable quote)

Michael is the fifth. The Others expect him to return as well.
Sigh.

<rant on>

I hate to belabor this retarded point, but Michael is NOT the fifth.

His name was NOT on the list.

The list had FOUR names on it.

The list did NOT have the name Michael on it.

There was no fifth name on the list.

Michael's job was to get the FOUR people named on the list to go to the Other's camp.

The instructions to Michael were: Bring these FOUR people back here (to the camp).

The instructions did NOT say that Michael, himself, actually HAD to come back, but it was assumed he would, in order to bring the FOUR people on the list and (theoretically) collect Walt.

There is no evidence that when Michael brings the FOUR people back, that Michael will be involved in whatever pow-wow takes place. (And it's safe to assume that it's a pow-wow, not a hostage-taking situation, since Kate, Jack, and Sawyer were already once within arm's length of being captured. They probably want Hurley so that they can ask him were all the food went...)

So, my point is this: All of you out there that insist the list has five people on it are wrong. You should go spend more time with the ARG, because the *reality* of the FOUR names on the list has seemed to slipped passed you.

I admit, it's a stupid point, but somehow this one just irks me...

</rant off>

~Dan

So, my point is this: All of you out there that insist the list has five people on it are wrong. You should go spend more time with the ARG, because the *reality* of the FOUR names on the list has seemed to slipped passed you.Nobody is insisting that there were five names on the list. A couple of people mistakenly said "five" when they meant to say "four," and you and maxman appear to have a freakin' cow over it.

I think it's funny that you guys think that it actually matters how many people are on the stupid list. What matters is that they have successfully manipulated idiot Michael into betraying his fellow castaways, with a promise they obviously don't intend to keep.

I'm looking forward to seeing the plan Sayid comes up with to turn the tables on them. Somehow, I think it won't be quite good enough.

Sigh.

<rant on>

I hate to belabor this retarded point, but Michael is NOT the fifth.

His name was NOT on the list.

The list had FOUR names on it.

The list did NOT have the name Michael on it.

There was no fifth name on the list.

Michael's job was to get the FOUR people named on the list to go to the Other's camp.

The instructions to Michael were: Bring these FOUR people back here (to the camp).

The instructions did NOT say that Michael, himself, actually HAD to come back, but it was assumed he would, in order to bring the FOUR people on the list and (theoretically) collect Walt.

There is no evidence that when Michael brings the FOUR people back, that Michael will be involved in whatever pow-wow takes place. (And it's safe to assume that it's a pow-wow, not a hostage-taking situation, since Kate, Jack, and Sawyer were already once within arm's length of being captured. They probably want Hurley so that they can ask him were all the food went...)

So, my point is this: All of you out there that insist the list has five people on it are wrong. You should go spend more time with the ARG, because the *reality* of the FOUR names on the list has seemed to slipped passed you.

I admit, it's a stupid point, but somehow this one just irks me...

</rant off>

~Dan

Whew! Thank you Dan. I...didn't...have...the...energy...

We get the Sunday Washington Post inserts on Saturdays. The cover story in the "TV Week" is on Harold Perrineau (Michael)....

"I have a realy slight theory," he said. "Lately, I'm thinking the Dharma Initiative reminds me of those guys who got together and all decided to start [their own] religions. Somehow, they've been creating some kind of experiment to create some sort of religion based on what humans do.... It really is just this test of the human spirit, and how we make new rules."

...and you and maxman appear to have a freakin' cow over it...

moooooooooooo!

The deal was for Michael to bring the four people on the list back. Not sure how an argument developed out of that, but there are 5 people that must return - only four are on a list.

T h e r e . . . a r e . . . F O U R . . . n a m e s !

(Thank you Jean Luc for a memorable quote)

I had forgotten about that absolutely great episode of STNG, it was originally, of course, from Orwell's 1984!

I had forgotten about that absolutely great episode of STNG, it was originally, of course, from Orwell's 1984!Oh yeah, now I remember; "There...are...four...lights!" (From a weak and tortured Capt Picard.)

We get the Sunday Washington Post inserts on Saturdays. The cover story in the "TV Week" is on Harold Perrineau (Michael)....

He was also on last Wednesday or Thursdays Good Morning America. If you can believe, my DVR cut off the last 10 minutes which aparently was the portion of the show in which he appeared. :mad:

"You have to bring only these four people."

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/sierrabob/vlcsnap-21378.png

I can hardly wait for somebody to ask who James Ford is........

Right... well... James Ford is the guy holding the video camera.

And you know he has to go if we want to see anything.


v/r,
C-F

I hate to belabor this retarded point, but Michael is NOT the fifth.

His name was NOT on the list.

The list had FOUR names on it.

The list did NOT have the name Michael on it.

They gave the list to Michael. It was a list of people for Michael to bring back with him. Why would it have Michael's own name on it?

When your wife gives you a grocery list of things to pick up on your way home, does she write your name on it to remind you to come back with the groceries? Of course not. That would be stupid.

Yes, there were 4 names on the list. Nonetheless, the Others want 5 people to return. Michael is the fifth. This is not advanced calculus here. Jack + Kate + Sawyer + Hurley + Michael = 5.

Five. Just like Jack's tattoo. 5.

They gave the list to Michael. It was a list of people for Michael to bring back with him. Why would it have Michael's own name on it?

When your wife gives you a grocery list of things to pick up on your way home, does she write your name on it to remind you to come back with the groceries?

Sad to say you apparently are speaking to some whose wives must just do that.
Amazing.

I can hardly wait for somebody to ask who James Ford is........Who is this James Ford you speak of?

They gave the list to Michael. It was a list of people for Michael to bring back with him. Why would it have Michael's own name on it?

When your wife gives you a grocery list of things to pick up on your way home, does she write your name on it to remind you to come back with the groceries? Of course not. That would be stupid.

Yes, there were 4 names on the list. Nonetheless, the Others want 5 people to return. Michael is the fifth. This is not advanced calculus here. Jack + Kate + Sawyer + Hurley + Michael = 5.

Five. Just like Jack's tattoo. 5.
Actually with Hurley, it's more like 8 ;)

Any suggestions about the boat? Where did it come from?, Who is in it? Maybe its Tom Hanks from Cast Away..
If so, is Wilson on it?

:eek: WIIIIILSONNNNNN! Damn, I'm crying over a volleyball! :o

Were Libby and Cruze killed off because of the real life DWI incident?

My neighbor's fried auditioned for the part of Liz but did not get the part. The scene she had to rehearse was part of Libby's back story. Since she is now dead it does not look like they will ever show her back story.

Makes me think they rewrote 1/2 the season after the DWI thing.

Were Liz and Cruze killed off because of the real life DWI incident?I suspect they were already past shooting when that happened. We may see more of them in dream sequences.

Turns out that of the two scenes used for the audition that one scene between Sawyer and Libby was already shown. The second scene showed Libby stealing a drug called "Percocette" but was not shot or aired.

I don't get all the speculation that these two actresses were killed off because of a DWI incident. DWI, while not a good thing, isn't a felony, and this was a first offense, according to the news reports I've seen.

Also, we're talking about Hollywood here, an industry where employment is not, by and large, conditional on one's ability to pee into a cup.

This show will get real stupid fast. they already need a monster on the show because there is only so much you can do with people stranded on an island, one season and done



thought i'd have people comment on this, after two full seasons.


it was said on the first page

thought i'd have people comment on this, after two full seasons.


it was said on the first page

Well, there goes any thoughts of network programming he might have had!

I suspect they were already past shooting when that happened. We may see more of them in dream sequences.
I dunno...It was in December:
The 27-year-old Rodriguez and cast member Cynthia Watros were both charged with drunken driving after they were pulled over Dec. 1 in separate cars within 15 minutes of each other.

I don't get all the speculation that these two actresses were killed off because of a DWI incident. DWI, while not a good thing, isn't a felony, and this was a first offense, according to the news reports I've seen.

Also, we're talking about Hollywood here, an industry where employment is not, by and large, conditional on one's ability to pee into a cup.
At least a second offense for MR. She was already on probation in CA for a previous conviction.

I just thought it was interesting they called that episode "Two for the road". That's definitely a drinking reference.

... Since she is now dead it does not look like they will ever show her back story...

Not necessarily true. Boone, Ethan and Shannon (right?) all appeared in a backstory after they died.

Turns out that of the two scenes used for the audition that one scene between Sawyer and Libby was already shown. The second scene showed Libby stealing a drug called "Percocette" but was not shot or aired.

It's "Percocet." Fairly powerful painkiller, but it won't even touch my kindney stone attacks. Then I need shot of Demerol. I think we'll certainly see Libby again in back stories. There's no way they will just drop her completely since there are so many unanswered questions.

MR claims that her and the show writers had agreed from the beginning that her character would only last until the end of this eason. But I don't think it's a coincidence that the two actors/actresses that had negative publicity have been written off the show

Not necessarily true. Boone, Ethan and Shannon (right?) all appeared in a backstory after they died.

Also Christian, Jack's dad. In Desparate Housewives, which added backstory in last night's season finale, the story's narrator, a character dead from the very beginning, was shown also. Short-term guest starring is much easier for an actor to commit to than a full-season contract. How about Lillith appearing a few times in Frasier? Same deal. Point is, there are precedents in television. A character's death or withdrawal from the regular cast has no binding effect on whether they may appear in a later episode.

Speculation and conspiracy about the relationship between their DUI's and their demise will always exist. We can either accept the direct statements from the actors and staff, or we can insist they're lying. I'll stick with the statements.

As we get to know The Others and the story moves more toward the corporations involved (Widmore, Hanso, Dharma), we're going to meet new characters and forget about old ones. 24 has had more than one president, new baddies every season, new analysts, etc.

Because they didn't really have them. When that episode originally aired, there was a lot of discussion abut the real number of Others that were in the jungle surrounding the Losties. Despite the screen cap that was posted at the time, I saw no evidence in this latest episode of the 10 or 15 Others that would have been necessary to hold each of the torches. In fact, Zeke told the "doctor" (I only use that term because he drew Michael's blood, but I could have done a better job) to "get the torches ready". They all lit up in sync, and this episode made it clear to me that the Others were actually outnumbered by the Losties.
One other thought: Why do they keep taking Sawyer on the A-Team assignments? At least make him wear his glasses so he'll be able to actually hit something if he shoots. Just don't let him get into a fist fight.

Given that Zeke took all their guns, does it really matter how many of them there are?
Hell, just shoot Jack in the leg and the others will pretty much go along with anything.

- Anybody else notice that the question mark plus the cross-like shape of the plane formed the symbol for the band Blue Oyster Cult?? Coincidence? Probably. Ominous? Absolutely! ;)
(My wife called me a nerd when I mentioned it. Sigh.)

As I'm getting caught up in this thread, just watched back to back to back episodes yesterday to get up to date... BOC "Don't fear the Reaper" is playing on my Satellite Radio while reading the above post. That's FREAKY!


20 pages to go with only 2 1/2 hours of work left.

THERE ARE NO SPOILERS IN THIS ARTICLE[U]

'Lost' to Answer Nagging Questions

By FRAZIER MOORE

NEW YORK (AP) - So what's the deal with that number sequence - 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 - on ABC's serial drama "Lost"?

The truth is, it indicates the points during each episode's hour when the network takes a commercial break.

No, that's not right.

The truth is, it's based on the relationship between the freckle count on Kate's face and the times per hour Hurley says "Dude."

That's not right either.

But as "Lost" heads to its season finale Wednesday at 8 p.m. EDT, it promises to settle certain nagging questions and teasing mysteries. What information, and satisfaction, will we take from the "Lost" finale with us into its long summer hiatus? Only time will tell. Or not tell.

A year ago, when "Lost" ended its first season, the castaways blasted open the mysterious hatch. Big deal. Viewers didn't get so much as a peek.

But by now, we've hung out plenty down in the well-appointed bunker as it became an additional location for the castaways (and the action), supplementing the island's beach and jungle interior.

And here in the bunker was introduced perhaps the series' cleverest conceit: a computer into which must be typed the sequence 4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42 (then the execute command) every 108 minutes, or else - well, no one knows what happens otherwise. Up to now no one has dared to find out. What a bleakly funny comment on the human condition: enslavement, through blind faith or fear, to a chore whose purpose is no more known to its followers than the consequences of their not doing it.

On the finale maybe we will find out what's the deal with this so-called "button" ritual.

Maybe we will also find out more about the Dharma Initiative, the mysterious research institute that built the bunker, left behind supplies and murky instructions, and at bad moments has the castaways dancing like puppets in the service of a so-far inscrutable exercise.

Maybe we'll even find why Oceanic flight 815 from Sydney crashed here, in the middle of nowhere, to start the whole "Lost" adventure - itself a basic piece of information up to now withheld from viewers.

But no matter how generous "Lost" proves on its finale, it is wrapping a season even richer and more groundbreaking than its freshman year. More assuredly than ever a set of paradoxes, "Lost" is infuriating in its lack of information yet overwhelming in its thick deposits of lore.

It is almost punishing in the demands it places on the viewer who seeks to be more than a surface observer. But at the same time, it is liberating: If the writers give their own imaginations free rein, which they obviously do, then "Lost" invites the viewer to do the same, if only to keep up.

Indeed, early on its viewers appropriated "Lost" for themselves. It belongs to the audience. The writers and actors just do most of the work.

But not all. "Lost" is not a series for couch potatoes. Parsing out buried meaning and clues has become part of the viewing process. The show gets in our heads and, like it or not, we ponder each episode for days. This is not a series to watch from the sidelines; it almost compels on-the-field participation.

Just as the bumblebee theoretically can't fly, "Lost" was a series that just couldn't work - at least, according to conventional TV wisdom. It was a stupid idea with a bloated cast, more beach time than "Baywatch," and - since the main motivation was solely to get off the island - limited dramatic possibilities.

In practice, the show's biggest threat was, on the contrary, its vast possibilities.

Among the many original acquaintances the viewer made were: Kate, the freckled former jailbird (Evangeline Lilly); Hurley (Jorge Garcia), the portly sweepstakes tycoon who says "dude" a lot; Jack, the doctor (Matthew Fox); and the mystical outdoorsman, Locke (Terry O'Quinn). But there is no shortage of new characters - both friends and enemies - replenishing what we first knew as the core group.

Every character represents another point of contact for the viewer, and another point-of-view: any event has multiple versions, thanks to each person who experienced it. Meanwhile, the flashbacks to characters' lives before that fateful crash let the series time-shift and place-shift wherever it might roam beyond the island.

As I envision the show's future, I can imagine a subset of characters somehow escaping from the island to rejoin the "real" world - where they are unable or unwilling to arrange help for the castaways they left behind. The series, while remaining on the island but also tracking the tortured readjustment of The Returnees, could then further expand to coexist in two or more realms at the same time.

That's just an idea, and maybe a lousy one.

My larger point is that, as "Lost" concludes a second year, it has demonstrated that what might have first seemed to be a silly gimmick - a random bunch of people thrown together in a crisis - instead has nearly inexhaustible potential for development.

The only real limits: writers' fatigue and viewers' fickleness. But on a series where dangers seem to lurk everywhere, neither of those seems likely to be among them anytime soon.

Given that Zeke took all their guns, does it really matter how many of them there are? Hell, just shoot Jack in the leg and the others will pretty much go along with anything.
The Losties gave up their guns after seeing that Kate had been captured AND after seeing the torches light up. If you knew that there were only 3 or 4 Others, would you have given up your guns or held your ground? At the time, it did matter how many there were.

Maybe not the first time this has been pointed out, but the 108 minutes also equals the sum of:
4+8 = 12
(12) +15 = 27
(27) +16 = 43
(43) + 23 = 66
(66) + 42 = 108

Coincidence? Highly unlikely :)

Cheers,

I've noticed twice lately that people's faces have been reversed.

Eko's mole on his upper lip moves from one side to the other, and Michael's injury on his forehead does the same. Is this a simple editing error, or something more sinister ?????

Maybe not the first time this has been pointed out, but the 108 minutes also equals the sum of:
4+8 = 12
(12) +15 = 27
(27) +16 = 43
(43) + 23 = 66
(66) + 42 = 108

Coincidence? Highly unlikely :)

Cheers,

You sure came up with a complicated way to say:

4+8+15+16+23+42=108

posg:

I'm showing all the work ;)

Maybe not the first time this has been pointed out, but the 108 minutes also equals the sum of:
4+8 = 12
(12) +15 = 27
(27) +16 = 43
(43) + 23 = 66
(66) + 42 = 108

Coincidence? Highly unlikely :)

Cheers,


I think that may have been discovered on page 1.

I was flipping channels over the weekend in a hotel and came across a movie on TBN, The Gospel of John, and the lead character looked really familiar. Couldn't place him, until I realized it was Desmond!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377992/

Oceanic Flight 815, departed from gate 23, at 14:15....all Numbers...

the only thing I wish they did at the beginning of each show was tell us what day it is on the Island....I hate not knowing...They'll mention it sometimes...like 40 days or something. To me it would be better.

The Losties gave up their guns after seeing that Kate had been captured AND after seeing the torches light up. If you knew that there were only 3 or 4 Others, would you have given up your guns or held your ground? At the time, it did matter how many there were.

Are you simply agreeing with me?
My point is that it doesn't matter how many others there are/were, once Zeke had the guns, he could have coerced the whole lot of them to go to their camp.

Oceanic Flight 815, departed from gate 23, at 14:15....all Numbers...

the only thing I wish they did at the beginning of each show was tell us what day it is on the Island....I hate not knowing...They'll mention it sometimes...like 40 days or something. To me it would be better.


Here's a very handy website for keeping track of island time:

http://lost.cubit.net/timeline.php

I just thought it was interesting they called that episode "Two for the road". That's definitely a drinking reference.

Speaking of titles, what does last weeks' title of "Three Minutes" refer to?

Speaking of titles, what does last weeks' title of "Three Minutes" refer to?

The time limit placed on Michael's seeing/talking with Walt.

I've noticed twice lately that people's faces have been reversed.

Eko's mole on his upper lip moves from one side to the other, and Michael's injury on his forehead does the same. Is this a simple editing error, or something more sinister ?????AL was reversed in her last episode, too. But I attributed it to showing her driving in Australia, but having to use Hawaiian cars.

Xesdeeni

Ana Lucia has made some mistakes, and is still paying for 'em. And anyone who buys the official cover story that she and ABC cooked up about her wanting to be on a hit show for only one "kick-ass" season, well, I've got some swampland you might be interested in... :p

'Lost' actress Rodriguez sentenced again

Associated Press
LOS ANGELES - Actress Michelle Rodriguez, who served five days in jail in Hawaii last month for drunk driving, must serve 60 days for violating her probation with that arrest, a spokesman for the city attorney said Monday.

Judge Rex Hesseman also sentenced the former star of television's "Lost" to 30 days of community service with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, stints with the Mothers Against Drunk Driving victim impact panel and the city's hospital and morgue program, said spokesman Frank Mateljan. She must also attend an alcohol education program.

The 27-year-old actress is scheduled to begin her jail term on May 31, Mateljan said.

A message left with her attorney, Henry Holmes, was not immediately returned.

Rodriguez was arrested in Hawaii last December on the drunken driving charge. She pleaded guilty last month.

The Honolulu arrest violated the three-year probation term the actress was given in 2004 after pleading no contest to charges of hit-and-run, driving on a suspended license and driving under the influence of alcohol, Mateljan said.

Her probation on those charges has now been extended until June 2009.

Rodriguez's "Lost" character, Ana Lucia, was killed off in an episode broadcast earlier this month. The show's producers have said that plot twist had nothing to do with her arrests.

Maybe Michelle just likes being in Hawaii and doesn't want to leave. :)

Maybe Michelle just likes being in Hawaii and doesn't want to leave. :)

Too bad for her then, since her sentence and community service must be served in LA, as the article points out.

The new jail date is in L.A. (note the dateline for the story).

Oceanic Flight 815, departed from gate 23, at 14:15....all Numbers...


14 is not one of the numbers.

By the way, I read on another forum an interesting thread about the fact that it was still daytime when the plane crashed. If they left at 2:15 PM local time, flew for like 6 or 8 hours to the East towards LA, then it should have been dark when the plane went down.

Combine with the fact that the nigerian drug plane that crashed has a limited range, and it makes more sense that the losties plane was flying in the wrong direction, West, and perhaps crashed somewhere closer to Africa.

While nothing should be surprising on this show, if flight 815 flew west, it would spend the next 3 - 4 hours flying over land. You'd think someone would have noticed a problem sooner than 6 - 8 hours into the flight. Without some external influence, both planes could barely even reach each other, given that the max range of an MD-11 (I think that's what flight 815 was) is about 13,000 km (as far as we know it didn't just run out of fuel before it crashed), the max range of a twin engine drug plane might be 2000 km, and Sydney is about 15,000 km from Nigeria. That drug plan might not even make it to the east coast of Africa.

Does anyone remember the African country mentioned on some of the Hanso websites, or is that for discussion on the spoiler thread? If that were within 2000 km of Nigeria, there might be some connection there.

Does anyone remember the African country mentioned on some of the Hanso websites, or is that for discussion on the spoiler thread? If that were within 2000 km of Nigeria, there might be some connection there.

You can only mention names of African countries already mentioned in the show, or in previews shown immediately after the show. If the name of the African country was mentioned in a mid-week preview different from the preview shown immediately after the prior week's episode, it is a spoiler. If you got it off of any website related to The Lost Experience, please move the discussion to the alternate forum for discussing that game. If you overheard it from any other website than this forum, even if you quote someone else's speculation, it is a spoiler. It doesn't matter that the African country, and its name, existed prior to the creation of this show. You can no longer speak its name, or it will ruin someone else's enjoyment of any future show. In fact, if any of your speculation later turns out to be accurate, then you can be held accountable for spoiling.

You can only mention names of African countries already mentioned in the show, or in previews shown immediately after the show. If the name of the African country was mentioned in a mid-week preview different from the preview shown immediately after the prior week's episode, it is a spoiler. If you got it off of any website related to The Lost Experience, please move the discussion to the alternate forum for discussing that game. If you overheard it from any other website than this forum, even if you quote someone else's speculation, it is a spoiler. It doesn't matter that the African country, and its name, existed prior to the creation of this show. You can no longer speak its name, or it will ruin someone else's enjoyment of any future show. In fact, if any of your speculation later turns out to be accurate, then you can be held accountable for spoiling.

LOL. Couldn't have said it any better. Rules made up as we go are hard to keep track of. Thanks for the recap. It might help reduce the ridicule of people who aren't aware of every new forum created. Super members will be sure to respond.

Nothing to respond to. Making up a bunch of rules to make it sound complicated just makes the poster appear slow on the uptake.

You can only mention names of African countries already mentioned in the show, or in previews shown immediately after the show. If the name of the African country was mentioned in a mid-week preview different from the preview shown immediately after the prior week's episode, it is a spoiler. If you got it off of any website related to The Lost Experience, please move the discussion to the alternate forum for discussing that game. If you overheard it from any other website than this forum, even if you quote someone else's speculation, it is a spoiler. It doesn't matter that the African country, and its name, existed prior to the creation of this show. You can no longer speak its name, or it will ruin someone else's enjoyment of any future show. In fact, if any of your speculation later turns out to be accurate, then you can be held accountable for spoiling.

ROFL :p With rules like that, is there anything left to post about? ;)

ROFL :p With rules like that, is there anything left to post about? ;)

I'd hate to see the punishment for breaking the rules! :eek:

Nothing to respond to. Making up a bunch of rules to make it sound complicated just makes the poster appear slow on the uptake.

Couldn't have said it any better.

I've been looking around but still cannot find the new forum you speak of. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

Ok now I'll contribute since I asked for something.

The rock formation above the Others camp reminds me of a portal from an old Star Trek episode. The portal was used to jump from place to place simply by walking through. I'm not sure I think that's what the formation is, but it does have quite a resemblance. Maybe aliens are using it to jump from planet to planet.

The rock formation above the Others camp reminds me of a portal from an old Star Trek episode. The portal was used to jump from place to place simply by walking through. I'm not sure I think that's what the formation is, but it does have quite a resemblance. Maybe aliens are using it to jump from planet to planet.


The Rock was the The Guardian of Forever....James T goes back and hooks up with Joan Collins. Great episode....won an Emmy. City on the Edge of Forever was the ep title.

No Trek was quite as cool as Original Trek....see?:

Star Trek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBXal1GAA4A&search=star%20trek%20g4)

You can only mention names of African countries already mentioned in the show, or in previews shown immediately after the show. If the name of the African country was mentioned in a mid-week preview different from the preview shown immediately after the prior week's episode, it is a spoiler. If you got it off of any website related to The Lost Experience, please move the discussion to the alternate forum for discussing that game. If you overheard it from any other website than this forum, even if you quote someone else's speculation, it is a spoiler. It doesn't matter that the African country, and its name, existed prior to the creation of this show. You can no longer speak its name, or it will ruin someone else's enjoyment of any future show. In fact, if any of your speculation later turns out to be accurate, then you can be held accountable for spoiling.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Nothing to respond to. Making up a bunch of rules to make it sound complicated just makes the poster appear slow on the uptake.

The only made-up part was the African reference. All other aspects are directly related to spoiler rules and reactions seen here.

They gave the list to Michael. It was a list of people for Michael to bring back with him. Why would it have Michael's own name on it?

When your wife gives you a grocery list of things to pick up on your way home, does she write your name on it to remind you to come back with the groceries? Of course not. That would be stupid.

Yes, there were 4 names on the list. Nonetheless, the Others want 5 people to return.
When my wife gives me a grocery list she just wants the groceries -- it doesn't matter if I bring them or my brother or a friend or Bob the gardener.

Miss Clue said that if Michael brought those 4 people back, they'd let Michael and Walt go free... so obviously he wouldnt have to stick around for whatever they need the other 4 people for.

The only made-up part was the African reference. All other aspects are directly related to spoiler rules and reactions seen here.
I still don't understand why you seem so threatened by the spoiler rules. They are very simple and easy to follow and were agreed on way back at the beginning of this thread. I know you are a late comer to this thread but maybe if you spent some of your time reading from the beginning instead of railing on about the rules you would understand them better.

Also, as stated before, there is an entire thread for spoilers.

The only made-up part was the African reference. All other aspects are directly related to spoiler rules and reactions seen here.

Anything other than referencing things not from the show or the preview following the show is fabricated. Speculation, or quoting someone elses speculation is not a spoiler - even if that speculation later turns out to be accurate.

Anything other than referencing things not from the show or the preview following the show is fabricated. Speculation, or quoting someone elses speculation is not a spoiler - even if that speculation later turns out to be accurate.

Don't you just love being a moderator?
Don't you just love being a moderator?
Don't you just love being a moderator?

Multiply that by about a dozen times and that's about how many times you've had to explain the same thing over and over and over (and that's just to Q-man :rolleyes: ). Better you than me. Did you ever teach kindergarten per chance?

I still don't understand why you seem so threatened by the spoiler rules. They are very simple and easy to follow and were agreed on way back at the beginning of this thread. I know you are a late comer to this thread but maybe if you spent some of your time reading from the beginning instead of railing on about the rules you would understand them better.

Also, as stated before, there is an entire thread for spoilers.

Actually, I was making a joke. Several people *got* it, and together we had fun. I don't know what else there is to say? Sorry if you missed it, I guess. Must be the whole tone thing, with writing and all.

Actually, I was making a joke. Several people *got* it, and together we had fun. I don't know what else there is to say? Sorry if you missed it, I guess. Must be the whole tone thing, with writing and all.
It ceased being a joke about 50 posts ago. I get humor, this was just some more (not very cleverly disguised) whining

It ceased being a joke about 50 posts ago. I get humor, this was just some more (not very cleverly disguised) whining

*Y-A-W-N*

You bore me. Maybe after the finale tonight you'll have something more substantial (and on-topic) to post.

Don't you just love being a moderator?
Don't you just love being a moderator?
Don't you just love being a moderator?

Multiply that by about a dozen times and that's about how many times you've had to explain the same thing over and over and over (and that's just to Q-man :rolleyes: ). Better you than me. Did you ever teach kindergarten per chance?

He just wants to run his post count up. I look forward to tomorrow and the end of the spoiler discussion for a few months.

I still don't understand why you seem so threatened by the spoiler rules. They are very simple and easy to follow and were agreed on way back at the beginning of this thread. I know you are a late comer to this thread but maybe if you spent some of your time reading from the beginning instead of railing on about the rules you would understand them better.

Also, as stated before, there is an entire thread for spoilers.

Well stated.

As for tonight, it's interesting that two of the blockbuster shows are ending their seasons head to head, AI and Lost. Everyone I've talked has said they were skipping AI and watching Lost though, since all AI is tonight is 119 minutes of fluff (it could be argued that this is the case all season though :D ).

I'll watch Lost and flip over to AI @ the end...


DON'T BE SHOCKED IF LOST ENDS TONIGHT!!for good that is!

14 is not one of the numbers.

By the way, I read on another forum an interesting thread about the fact that it was still daytime when the plane crashed. If they left at 2:15 PM local time, flew for like 6 or 8 hours to the East towards LA, then it should have been dark when the plane went down.

Combine with the fact that the nigerian drug plane that crashed has a limited range, and it makes more sense that the losties plane was flying in the wrong direction, West, and perhaps crashed somewhere closer to Africa.

Maybe we can use local wildlife to determine the Island's position.

Anyone know what Islands around Australia have Polar Bears? ;)

As for tonight, it's interesting that two of the blockbuster shows are ending their seasons head to head, AI and Lost. Everyone I've talked has said they were skipping AI and watching Lost though, since all AI is tonight is 119 minutes of fluff (it could be argued that this is the case all season though :D ).

I agree with the AI fluff comment. Fortunately, I have a PVR and don't have to decide between the two. However, for those who don't I think the majority will go with AI. Look at the TV ratings for the two shows. Last week, Lost didn't even make it to the top 10.

Other than the regulars who post in this forum, I think the general population of viewers has grown tired and frustrated with Lost.

For the record, if I didn't have a PVR I'd still watch Lost over AI just to see how they will end season 2....not that I expect much. For me, Lost may have not jumped the shark last week when all it took for Michael to convince Jack to do it his way was a few stern words, but it did take a running start to doing it!

Michael: He's my son! We're going to do it my way!
Jack: Huh, OK

Just a bit of pre-finale gibberish:

Last night I was watching the deleted scenes from the Dead Like Me pilot episode DVD and spotted the lovely Evangeline Lilly. It's a scene in the DMV and the two main characters walk past her.

"Who's Mildred?" is the title of the deleted scene.

Aren't you glad you wasted 5 seconds of your life reading this?

For the record, if I didn't have a PVR I'd still watch Lost over AI just to see how they will end season 2....not that I expect much. For me, Lost may have not jumped the shark last week when all it took for Michael to convince Jack to do it his way was a few stern words, but it did take a running start to doing it!

Michael: He's my son! We're going to do it my way!
Jack: Huh, OK

Since they have a democracy within the group and only charisma can persuade a fellow lostaway, Jack probably felt compelled to coddle the loose cannon Michael was. And even though Jack agreed, it may have only been to calm the moment. Jack may have felt that when lighter heads prevailed, or he had more people surrounding him to apply peer pressure, he could have pressed with another plan. Michael himself demonstrated a similar patience with Hurley. Hurley emphatically insisted he wouldn't be coming and Michael could not push further. In the emotional moment of the burial though, Hurley turned to Michael's satisfaction. What might Michael have done moments before departure if Hurley still wasn't on board? Only as little or as much as he could, same as Jack. Each was a fleeting moment though, and Sayid's logic on Michael may ultimately prevail.

Since they have a democracy within the group and only charisma can persuade a fellow lostaway, Jack probably felt compelled to coddle the loose cannon Michael was. And even though Jack agreed, it may have only been to calm the moment. Jack may have felt that when lighter heads prevailed, or he had more people surrounding him to apply peer pressure, he could have pressed with another plan. Michael himself demonstrated a similar patience with Hurley. Hurley emphatically insisted he wouldn't be coming and Michael could not push further. In the emotional moment of the burial though, Hurley turned to Michael's satisfaction. What might Michael have done moments before departure if Hurley still wasn't on board? Only as little or as much as he could, same as Jack. Each was a fleeting moment though, and Sayid's logic on Michael may ultimately prevail.

Good post. I also thought that Jack's response was just to ameliorate Michael by agreeing to his outburst/plan.

Don't know if Michael was doing the same with Hurley or not...but that does make sense.

Good post. I also thought that Jack's response was just to ameliorate Michael by agreeing to his outburst/plan.

Don't know if Michael was doing the same with Hurley or not...but that does make sense.

I think Michael played his only card -- hysterical insistence -- with Hurley. It worked with Jack and Sayid, but not with Hurley. He backed off, probably wondering what he was going to do ultimately, but not yet knowing. Hurley made it easy for him. Now, as an earlier poster stated and we saw Sayid verify, Sayid's agreement was only a play. Looking forward, I'm confident it won't go according to Mike's request, whether he knows it or not.

So...where the heck was Locke going? I liked his nonchalance in casting off the crutches. It was done with such cool confidence, in deference to Rose's comment about the island's healing properties.

Good post. I also thought that Jack's response was just to ameliorate Michael by agreeing to his outburst/plan.

Don't know if Michael was doing the same with Hurley or not...but that does make sense.


Given the power-struggles between Jack, John, Sayid & Sawyer I just found it odd that Jack would give control over to Michael who is probably too emotional to make such decisions. Didn't make sense then, still doesn't now.

Regardless, its all academic now that Sayid showed Jack the light. But I do think that was rather weak on the writers' part.

As has been speculated, some are expecting Desmond to return tonight. If he does, what do we hope he has to offer before the season ends? History? Another to join the fight? Will he be treacherous like Henry or honest and helpful? What'll it be, brother?

I saw an interesting article that compared Lost to Wizard of Oz. The funny part is that they listed Jack as the Scarecrow (no brain), Sawyer as the Tin-man (no heart), and Hurley as the cowardly Lion.

Of course, Kate was Dorothy.

That's our 4-some right there.

Other than the obvious (Vincent), I have no idea who would be Toto. :)

As has been speculated, some are expecting Desmond to return tonight. If he does, what do we hope he has to offer before the season ends? History? Another to join the fight? Will he be treacherous like Henry or honest and helpful? What'll it be, brother?
He's bring Hurley some fresh batteries for his CD player. ;)

I agree with the AI fluff comment. Fortunately, I have a PVR and don't have to decide between the two. However, for those who don't I think the majority will go with AI. Look at the TV ratings for the two shows. Last week, Lost didn't even make it to the top 10.

Other than the regulars who post in this forum, I think the general population of viewers has grown tired and frustrated with Lost.Bud you crack me up. You'll just never give up will you? I guess if you keep saying this month after month, year after year it will eventually be true huh? ;) For a show scheduled directly opposite the white hot, end of the season AI, LOST got outstanding ratings last week (13). In any other time slot it would have ended up 2-4 for the week. Most any other show when put in that time slot would be struggling just to keep it's head above water. But then you already know that....

For the record, if I didn't have a PVR I'd still watch Lost over AI just to see how they will end season 2....not that I expect much. For me, Lost may have not jumped the shark last week when all it took for Michael to convince Jack to do it his way was a few stern words, but it did take a running start to doing it!
I think it's time for a little self examination here Dynot. It's always best to start out by admitting you have a problem. So I think it's high time you simply came to confront the obvious: you're LOST-whipped man! All the time you're telling us how bad the show is, and confidently boasting how you're going to "dump" it when the time is right. But here we are through two whole seasons now and the show has you totally wrapped around it's little pinky like a hot-blooded babe.

It's time to tear that ring out of your nose she's leading you around by. Show us you really have some balls and dump her now before the last romp in the hay tonight. Prove you're in control and really the man you say you are. Stick it in her face and watch AI tonight when you're supposed to be with her. Teach her a real lesson!........... And no sneaking back later on when we aren't looking and catching her with the "hard drive" either. It's gotta be a clean break man. Think how much better you'll feel about yourself knowing you're not just another LOST-whipped viewer. You CAN do it!


ron

He's bring Hurley some fresh batteries for his CD player. ;)
And bringing Sawyer this month's Playpen and a new book :D

Hurley For Men

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmWzBP-J1mo&search=hurley

Hurley For Men

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmWzBP-J1mo&search=hurley

Funny stuff. Wonder if they had any problems talking Jorge into doing it? My guess is: No way, Dude!

When my wife gives me a grocery list she just wants the groceries -- it doesn't matter if I bring them or my brother or a friend or Bob the gardener.

So that's what we're calling it now, delivering the groceries? ;)

Just last week she told me it mattered who delivered the groceries. :D

(w/ apologies to Sawyer for stealing his line from the previous episode)

So...where the heck was Locke going? I liked his nonchalance in casting off the crutches. It was done with such cool confidence, in deference to Rose's comment about the island's healing properties.

Anything can happen in Hurley's mind. The earlier sanatorium episode explained it all.

Wolfie

Bud you crack me up. You'll just never give up will you? I guess if you keep saying this month after month, year after year it will eventually be true huh? ;) For a show scheduled directly opposite the white hot, end of the season AI, LOST got outstanding ratings last week (13). In any other time slot it would have ended up 2-4 for the week. Most any other show when put in that time slot would be struggling just to keep it's head above water. But then you already know that....

I think it's time for a little self examination here Dynot. It's always best to start out by admitting you have a problem. So I think it's high time you simply came to confront the obvious: you're LOST-whipped man! All the time you're telling us how bad the show is, and confidently boasting how you're going to "dump" it when the time is right. But here we are through two whole seasons now and the show has you totally wrapped around it's little pinky like a hot-blooded babe.

It's time to tear that ring out of your nose she's leading you around by. Show us you really have some balls and dump her now before the last romp in the hay tonight. Prove you're in control and really the man you say you are. Stick it in her face and watch AI tonight when you're supposed to be with her. Teach her a real lesson!........... And no sneaking back later on when we aren't looking and catching her with the "hard drive" either. It's gotta be a clean break man. Think how much better you'll feel about yourself knowing you're not just another LOST-whipped viewer. You CAN do it!


ron

Wow, as Hurley would say...take a Valium dude!

Sorry to hurt your feelings. Are you one of their writers or something?

Yes, I do have my criticisms of the show but does that mean I'm not allowed to watch it. Or heaven forbid, say anything negative about it on this forum!

Surely there must be more important things in your life for you to bust a vein on.

Just so you feel better...its the most awesome show ever and it'll go on for generations to come. And believe it or not, you & I have something in common: we've both probably watched every episode from the very begining.

There...feel better now. Breathe in, breathe out...that's it....relax...

Now go on, run along and get a life...

I'll watch Lost and flip over to AI @ the end...


DON'T BE SHOCKED IF LOST ENDS TONIGHT!!for good that is!

Btw, what was up with this post? The last part anyway...

Btw, what was up with this post? The last part anyway...

I was wondering where it went. When it disappeared I thought that either:

A) It was true and was deleted as spoiler material.

or

B) As Quino would put it, this comment may become true in the future and will at that time cease its status as conjecture and elevate to spoiler info, therefore requiring deletion.


I can't imagine this being the last episode, so I would imagine the post was trying to pull some chains.

Chain yanking is what I thought too...

But, it was pretty bizarre...and then nobody commented on it, even in jest...

Btw, it didn't disappear, it's just on the previous page (on my settings that is...page 556).

Wow, as Hurley would say...take a Valium dude!

Sorry to hurt your feelings. Are you one of their writers or something?

Yes, I do have my criticisms of the show but does that mean I'm not allowed to watch it. Or heaven forbid, say anything negative about it on this forum!

Surely there must be more important things in your life for you to bust a vein on.

Just so you feel better...its the most awesome show ever and it'll go on for generations to come. And believe it or not, you & I have something in common: we've both probably watched every episode from the very begining.

There...feel better now. Breathe in, breathe out...that's it....relax...

Now go on, run along and get a life...I'm a little disappointed in you my friend. No need to get upset bud. It's all my fault though... I must have hit a nerve there. Remember what I said now, admitting there's a problem is the first step :D.

Oh, BTW, my veins are just fine. But thanks you for your concern though ;).


ron

I've been looking around but still cannot find the new forum you speak of. Can someone please point me in the right direction?



Hi dragonman0325 and welcome!

The Lost game discussion is here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7714420

Spoiler discussion thread is here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=517981

Damn, the Php spell checker said it was the right word! :D

Because you spelled the word in your post (viral) right, but it's not the word you really wanted.

The spell checker can't read your mind to put in the word you really wanted: V-I-R-I-L-E !!

I'll watch Lost and flip over to AI @ the end...


DON'T BE SHOCKED IF LOST ENDS TONIGHT!!for good that is!

My thoughts back on 5/11;

Are we sure there is a next season, maybe they are looking at a Coast Guard Cutter!

After the preview of everyone looking out sea.

Hard for the network to give up a cash cow, but how many seasons did they plan for with this story line?

That looked like a pleasure boat, not a Coast Guard. It seemed to be propelled by sail. I cant imagine the Coast Guard would attempt a rescue by sailboat.

I'm a little disappointed in you my friend. No need to get upset bud. It's all my fault though... I must have hit a nerve there. Remember what I said now, admitting there's a problem is the first step :D.

Oh, BTW, my veins are just fine. But thanks you for your concern though ;).


ron

What problem? That I point out flaws in the show?

What does unnerve me is censorship...which you wish to impose on anyone who discusses these flaws.

I received a well-written rebuttal to my post which I welcome in a civilized discussion. Your pathetic attempt at humor and sarcasm has no point but to slam my opinions because they don't agree with yours.

I get the impression you're stalking me by the way you write "you never give up". I think we know who has a problem here. I can refer you to some good pyschiatrists if you wish. Best if you treat this in the bud.

Tool...

Anyone watching Jimmy Kimmel tonight?


Check his lineup for the 24th.(or not)
http://abc.go.com/primetime/jimmykimmel/index.html

What problem? That I point out flaws in the show?

What does unnerve me is censorship...which you wish to impose on anyone who discusses these flaws.

I received a well-written rebuttal to my post which I welcome in a civilized discussion. Your pathetic attempt at humor and sarcasm has no point but to slam my opinions because they don't agree with yours.

I get the impression you're stalking me by the way you write "you never give up". I think we know who has a problem here. I can refer you to some good pyschiatrists if you wish. Best if you treat this in the bud.

Tool... :eek: Wow, you're no fun at all. Enjoy the show friend...


ron

Anybody watching the Lost "Reckoning" collection of clips tonight? On KDNL St. Louis, we seem to be getting the rear channels only, in Dolby 2.0.... dialogue sounds like the microphones are underwater. Anyone else have this going on, or is it a local issue?

Thanks...

I think it's Network problems the feed went dead and the LOST LOGO came up for about 4 min.

OT, didn't they say that Lost was a two hour finale? What's up with the one hour repeat?? The actual finale is only one hour !

Edit: Never mind, it seems that the finale IS 2 hrs.

is that Libby with Desmond??? :eek:

Elizabeth the boat, Libby the wife

Let's hope my affiliate can tweak their satellite dish

keep getting break ups while my signal is just fine :(

Who was Desmond's girlfriend? Have we seen her before?

the dad was the one who made him do 'the race'

maybe an 'Other'.

we now know who the mapmaker is, Rusinski(?).

so...many...commercials....

Who was Desmond's girlfriend? Have we seen her before?
Isn't she on Grey's Anatomy or something?

I think there's less commercials than idol had ;)

Oh Snap!!!!

Holy Crap!!!

So now why has he been waiting to tell John what happenend when he came back from the countdown and the magnet charge...

'I think I crashed your plane', Desmond.

system failure system failure system failure

well we know what brought the plane down - at least we think :rolleyes:

what the hell was that????

Well way to go john.

but then again I thought it was fake when the pearl was shown.

but then the tubes showed the pearl was fake...

Well....at least we won't have to deal with button pushes next season.

Desmond may have known about failsafe method (key).

Why the qauranee door?

and a hanso commercial :)

that's the ending?? What the hell does that mean?? I'm so confused.

wow that woman does have a lot of money, paying these dudes to find this island.

And desmond is probably dead

but john, eko?

damn this show!!!!!

What's with Desmond's girlfriend? and what does she know?

That was the best episode of LOST in two years.

I just **** myself...

Great Episode but they opened up about another 5 seasons worth of questions!!
:( :cool:

More questions raised by this finale than answered!!!! Are John and Eko dead?? John is my favorite character ... would hate to see him off the show! I am assuming that Michael and Will are no off the show?

So now there is no button to push what happens next??? They really fooled me ... I thought if they stopped pushing the button the "psychological experiment" would end!

I agree the writers outdid themselves with this episode ... fantastic! They rock!

I love this show!

Her Dad Is Behind The Island!!!

Well I Missed On It Being The Last Episode!!

Wow, what a cliffhanger of a season ending. Sure wish they showed if Eko was ok (or not); he's my favorite character and I'd hate to see him killed off.

so how does demonds girlfriend know to look for electromagnetic activity?

Did Locke and Eko die in the explosion? I guess that they really needed to enter those numbers into the computer.

Also, I can't believe that the plane crashed because of the electromagnetism of the island.

What's with Desmond's girlfriend? and what does she know?

I dunno, but she looked hot in that last scene!

Wow

Best Episode Ever

That Almost Rivals The Bsg Season Finale

This is going to be a rough summer... :eek:

They didn't lie. They answered a lot of questions. But oh so many more questions we have now.

Holy crap.

I love this show.

I liked Desmond. Are we sure he's dead? It certainly looked that way, the way they led up to it with the heavy dramatics and stuff. Oh well, great great episode. My head is spinning!

We also found out that "Henry" is the leader of the Others on the island - we all seemed to think that the bearded one was. Anyone have any guesses why they all go barefoot?

so how does demonds girlfriend know to look for electromagnetic activity?

WIDMORE

SHE IS PENELOPE FROM THE WEBSITE

SBWillie,

I made the connection earflier, he made Desmond race around the world.

There is something more going on with his daughter.

Anyone care to spell out the the answers this show gave us?

Not pushing the biuton is not good.

What else.

Tom

What happened to Sayid? I thought he was going to stop the Others.

What will the Others do with Jack, Kate, and Sawyer?

I liked Desmond. Are we sure he's dead? It certainly looked that way, the way they led up to it with the heavy dramatics and stuff. Oh well, great great episode. My head is spinning!

I'm guess he's not dead - he and his girlfriend will fianlly get back together when the shows ends in 5-6 years :D

We also found out that "Henry" is the leader of the Others on the island - we all seemed to think that the bearded one was. Anyone have any guesses why they all go barefoot?
We knew he wasn't the leader because of the way he talked in Claire's flashback.

Is it me or was that Leonard at the end?

WIDMORE

SHE IS PENELOPE FROM THE WEBSITE

Explain please?