That is not Sun! Give me Sun screen shots!!!!!!! :eek:





:D

Looks like J.J. Abrams is still planning on being more involved with Lost. From a TV Guide interview:

I definitely look to be more involved this season, certainly more than I was last season [when directing “Mission: Impossible III”]. I look forward to directing an episode and I’m planning on writing some.

Looks like J.J. Abrams is still planning on being more involved with Lost. From a TV Guide interview:

I definitely look to be more involved this season, certainly more than I was last season [when directing “Mission: Impossible III”]. I look forward to directing an episode and I’m planning on writing some.

The guy will have 3 shows on ABC next fall, just signed two new TV distribution deals with Warner and Paramount, and is also working with Paramount on reviving the Star Trek movie franchise. I'm afraid he's stretching himself too thin.

Hello All,

Even though I've been watching since Season 1 Episode 1, I have been recording all the repeat episodes of Season 2 this summer to archive this great season. Last Wednesday, July 12th, ABC aired "What Kate Did" (9) and "The 23rd Psalm" (10). I now see that Lost repeats will not be on tonight, Wednesday July 19th. The ABC website for Lost shows the next two episodes to air are:

Wednesday, July 26 at 9/8c
"The Long Con"
(13)

and

Wednesday, July 26 at 10/9c
"One of Them"
(14)

Did ABC air the two missing episodes "The Hunting Party" (11) and "Fire + Water" (12) this last weekend and I missed it? (I hope not!?!?!?!)

http://www.epguides.com/lost/

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
John

Give me Sun screen shots!!!!!!! :eek:


Here ya' go. It's also topless if you look closely. :eek:


http://www.coppertone.com/images/products/items/m_ta_8lotion.jpg

I now see that Lost repeats will not be on tonight, Wednesday July 19th.

Crap you're right. I am catching up this summer (bought the dvds for season 1) and looks like I got bumped. I imagine they will reshuffle the air dates for the episodes you are missing. Last week they were scheduled to air episodes this week. Sounds like they are pushing their summer contest show.

Oh God! Airing in place of Lost is 'The One, Making a Music Star'
Just what we need: another music contest/reality show. :(
What's worse is, what if it get's higher ratings than 'Lost' did during regular season?
Seriously, I'm worried about the future of Lost. At the very least these bean counters are going to looking to cut money out of Lost's budget, maybe not film in Hawaii, or maybe kill off a few of the main characters. At worst....
I don't want to think about it.

"The One..." got like a 1.1 rating and is one of the most dismally rated reality shows ever. LOST is safe.

Seriously, I'm worried about the future of Lost. At the very least these bean counters are going to looking to cut money out of Lost's budget, maybe not film in Hawaii, or maybe kill off a few of the main characters. At worst....
I don't want to think about it.

Well, just turn that frown upside down! :D And weep not for the future of LOST, nor its budget. It's a big moneymaker, or will be, for ABC not only in terms of the TV show ad sales, but all the other ancillary income streams, from books to podcasts to online game-tie-ins. Not all are paying off yet, but it's a brave new media world and everybody's trying to figure out where the next big payday is coming from. LOST is well positioned, perhaps more than any other network series, to be on the leading edge of these other, emerging income-generating venues.

Besides, I think the ratings will steadily increase this year to the low twenties at least. Look what happened to '24' this year. LOST, the TV show, will finally start to benefit from all that exposure.

Crap you're right. I am catching up this summer (bought the dvds for season 1) and looks like I got bumped. I imagine they will reshuffle the air dates for the episodes you are missing. Last week they were scheduled to air episodes this week. Sounds like they are pushing their summer contest show.
Well, a week from now it seems Lost will be back with 1 episode on.

Here ya' go. It's also topless if you look closely. :eek:


http://www.coppertone.com/images/products/items/m_ta_8lotion.jpg
Wise guy!

"The One..." got like a 1.1 rating and is one of the most dismally rated reality shows ever. LOST is safe.

Good deal! hopefully with the more sane scheduling, Lost can pick up the viewers that it 'lost' this year.

The guy will have 3 shows on ABC next fall, just signed two new TV distribution deals with Warner and Paramount, and is also working with Paramount on reviving the Star Trek movie franchise. I'm afraid he's stretching himself too thin.I'm afraid you're right....he's exactly where David Kelly was 5-6 years ago. I haven't heard his name mentioned in probably four years.

"The One..." got like a 1.1 rating and is one of the most dismally rated reality shows ever. LOST is safe.Well "Lost" fans better hope this show never has to go head-to-head against a sequel (or repeat) of:

My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance (http://www.realitytvworld.com/mybigfatobnoxiousfiance/) :D

the best "reality" TV show ever... Randy, Randy, randy...

Could this be a foretelling of what's going to happen in Season 3???? From Dwight Schrute's (NBC's The Office) blog this week....
----------------------------------
Dwight Schrute here with a much belated addition to my ‘blog’.

‘Where the “F-“ have you been!?’, scream my (literally) hundreds of
readers.

Well, I’ll tell you. There have been some big changes at Dunder-
Mifflin and I have been busy as a beaver.

[Note: I know full well that that phrase makes no sense whatsoever.
Beavers are not busy unless their dams are continually knocked down
and destroyed by pesky neighborhood kids and/or storms]

Plus with the beet harvesting and my laser tag team (the Gandalfs!)
making it to regionals, my time has been quite limited.

There is a question that has been eating away at me like a flesh
eating bacteria or a wolverine.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE CAST OF BATTLESTAR GALACTICA CRASH LANDED ON THE ‘LOST’ ISLAND???!!!

First of all, they would have lasers. Adama would quickly secure the
hatch for his crew. The survivors of the Oceanic flight 815 would be
herded up like little children and inspected like cattle.

“Could these people actually be Cylons!” Starbuck would be thinking
to herself. Then she would think, “That one who calls himself Sawyer
is pretty hot. I wonder what he would look like swimming in just his
jeans.”

Starbuck would take Sawyer on a reconnoiter of the island and they
would visit the swimming hole and start necking. And then Kate and
Apollo would stumble upon them and they would all be getting it on
when a huge crashing would come through the jungle and one of those
huge unseen monsters would tower above them (the monsters that
disappeared after episode 8 of season 1) and they would be
screaming.

AHHHHH!!!!

Cut to commercial.

Meanwhile back at the hatch, Adama would want to imprison the “Lost”
cast in the old cave with the creek in it, but president “Roslin”
would want to reason with them and have both casts mate in order to
create more surviving humans.

Meanwhile the Cylons would have contacted the Others and they would
form an “alliance” to destroy all the good humans and especially that
annoying French woman who lives on the other side of the island.

Starbuck would shoot the unseen monster and Sawyer would say
something witty and sexy, like “Nice shot, blondie. Where’d you
learn to shoot a laser like that? From watching princess Leia?”

She would say, “Put a sock in it Sawyer” but the attraction would be
too much for them and they would have to start making out again.

The annoying French woman on the other side of the island is probably a Cylon anyway. And do they really carry lasers on Galactica?

- Tom

The annoying French woman on the other side of the island is probably a Cylon anyway. And do they really carry lasers on Galactica?

- Tom

no they have P90s

And do they really carry lasers on Galactica?



Someone in his "comments" section brought up the same inconsistancy. I'm starting to see some cracks in Dwight's geek cred.

It's hard to tell in this thread when someone is kidding or not, but either way, that's pretty funny.

On that note, I wonder what percentage of folks think the "hanso foundation" is a real entity?



Dude, that's not even a remotely close second. I can think of a few other combos that are preferable...

Kate-Sun
Kate-Claire
Claire-Sun
Kate/Claire/Sun-Anonymous background lostie hottie
Kate/Claire/Sun-Alex

Don't know what their motivations would be to "tussle" but hey, this is Lost that we're talking about...they could come up with something...

You just go ahead and keep thinking The Hanso Foundation isn't real. That's EXACTLY what they want you to think. ;)

I wasn't saying I was happy with AL-Sawyer combo either, but that is more sex than we've seen so far on the show.

FYI: ARG Act 3 of 3 just started with a bang...www.hansoexposed.com

I thought 'Lost' wasn't on last week, that the new reality show 'One...' was on.
It looks like 'Lost' is back on Wed the 26th with 'The Long Con'
Did they skip 'The Hunting Party' and 'Fire and Water'? Or was 'Lost' on last week and I somehow missed it?
Also, it looks like they are going back to one episode per night.
Are they planning on going back to two per night, and finishing up before S3 starts?
I'll be pissed if I missed 'The Hunting Party' + 'Fire and Water'

Don't know what they are doing this summer, but, last summer they did skip a bunch of episodes.

I wasn't saying I was happy with AL-Sawyer combo either, but that is more sex than we've seen so far on the show.All of these young hotties & studs "Lost" on some island with nothing to do all-day-long... how can they keep their hands off one another? :D

All of these young hotties & studs "Lost" on some island with nothing to do all-day-long... how can they keep their hands off one another? :D

Yes, there just *has* to be a reason for that. Anyone care to speculate?

Yes, there just *has* to be a reason for that. Anyone care to speculate?

Perhaps the Dharma saltpeter-infused condiments in the resupply drops? :p

Perhaps the Dharma saltpeter-infused condiments in the resupply drops? :p

I like that! :)

I could imagine the island magnetism having a dampening effect on animal magnetism.

because its a TV show on ABC and not HBO (though we wish it were on HBO)...though there is quite a bit of sex and sexual inneundo in the show...but that only stays interesting so long

because its a TV show on ABC and not HBO (though we wish it were on HBO)...though there is quite a bit of sex and sexual inneundo in the show...but that only stays interesting so long
No, HBO would ruin it the way things are going now at that "premium" channel.

No, HBO would ruin it the way things are going now at that "premium" channel.

ruin it how? HBO programming is far superior to any network station...no commercials, great looking HD, and no censorship...whats the problem?

ruin it how? HBO programming is far superior to any network station...no commercials, great looking HD, and no censorship...whats the problem?
The Sopranos is done next spring, Deadwood has been canceled, Carnivale was canceled, Rome has been canceled(only one more season)...that leaves Big Love-good but not great-my guess would be chopping block material after next season, The Wire-outstanding IMO, but small audience, only picked up by the skin of it's teeth...and then we have Lucky Louie, Entourage and Tourgasm, maybe that stuff appeals to some, but it's cheaply made and hardly worthy of being called "It's not TV, it's HBO". The richest network in the universe is getting cheap and it's starting to show in their programming.

Oh, and Milch's newest the surfing guy show, I'm sure that will play well in Malibu, anywhere else....?

As far as quality, intelligent programming, FX is hot on HBO's heels and set to overtake very soon.

Yes, there just *has* to be a reason for that. Anyone care to speculate?The island's magnetism (whether natural or man-made) essentially kills everyone's mojo. That's right, they're stranded on Gilligan's Island. A three-hour tour and fifteen years later, still no children to be seen.

Oh, and Milch's newest the surfing guy show, I'm sure that will play well in Malibu, anywhere else....?


While I agree with every other word in your post, I think you might be underestimating this show. It's David Milch, after all; I expect it to be awesome. But, if it's early birth meant an early death to the incomparable Deadwood, then it dang well better be awesome. ;)

Still, it's only one show and, like you, I don't expect Big Love to last beyond a second season at most. They could have continued any of these recently cancelled shows out of pocket change if they'd wanted. This is just cheapness, pure and simple.

Not like LOST, though (back on topic!). ABC does fund that one well, looking for a payoff down the road when all this "new media" finally starts to turn some coin. Like others, I'm worried that ABC may drag this show out beyond it's organic ending point and milk the cash cow to death.

The Sopranos is done next spring, Deadwood has been canceled, Carnivale was canceled, Rome has been canceled(only one more season)...that leaves Big Love-good but not great-my guess would be chopping block material after next season, The Wire-outstanding IMO, but small audience, only picked up by the skin of it's teeth...and then we have Lucky Louie, Entourage and Tourgasm, maybe that stuff appeals to some, but it's cheaply made and hardly worthy of being called "It's not TV, it's HBO". The richest network in the universe is getting cheap and it's starting to show in their programming.

Oh, and Milch's newest the surfing guy show, I'm sure that will play well in Malibu, anywhere else....?

As far as quality, intelligent programming, FX is hot on HBO's heels and set to overtake very soon.

heh very true...but after the season Sopranos had this year, I'm ready for it to end...
Deadwood's cancellation pisses me off, great show....

Carnivale was probably their most intriquing and until I watched Lost, entertaining shows out there...I really wish they'd do a miniseries as I want to know what the HELL HAPPENED! I did love seeing Brother Justin in Lost though, he's such a great actor...

The Wire is also incredible (watching the repeats of Season 3 right now) but its a damn shame they aren't (and won't be) in HD...stupid of HBO. What also makes the Wire great is that its filmed in my neck of the woods (in Baltimore) and its fun seeing local brands show up in the show (most notably WE R ONE)...

I guess you're right...I love Entourage though, I think its hilarious and I don't think its THAT cheap to make. Lucky Louie has really grown on me. Louis CK is hilarious and I'm glad I've watched this season (yes very cheap to make). Tourgasm was alright...I also like Dane Cook but it was too much "Real World" and not enough of the real business of making a comedy tour work.

I never did watch Rome...I'm not a fan of the subject so I just couldn't get into it...

While I agree with every other word in your post, I think you might be underestimating this show. It's David Milch, after all; I expect it to be awesome. But, if it's early birth meant an early death to the incomparable Deadwood, then it dang well better be awesome. ;)


Maybe too harsh on Milch's show, but HBO is close to losing me altogether because of what they've been doing lately, so yeah, it better be awesome--can't help but think that it's going to be a one-season wonder though, and then HBO will really be lost. (still on topic, see?) :p :D

I too am pissed at HBO over their cancellation--I used to be real cheerleader for them too, so it hurts to see them screw it up.

As for 'Lost', seriously, I'm worried about it. I want to see the full story unfold, but I can't help seeing the ratings drop to the high side of mediocre, and all the shows whipping it are so much cheaper.
I'm afraid at minimum ABC is going to say ax some of the cast and start filming in Canada, on a soundstage to save money, or that they'll cancel it outright.

Don't be too hasty in assuming that cancellation could never happen, especially if drops as much this season as it did last season. Networks aren't sentimental or loyal, if they can make more money a different way, they they will.

I'm putting my hope on a good season, with better scheduling, and maybe some of the 1st season viewers coming back into the fold. I really, really want to see the story finish it's arc. The thought of it ending and never knowing the secrets is maddening.

The island's magnetism (whether natural or man-made) essentially kills everyone's mojo. That's right, they're stranded on Gilligan's Island. A three-hour tour and fifteen years later, still no children to be seen.

Exactly, I was saying basically the same above with my "island magnetism cancels out animal magnetism" comment above.

I hadn't thought of the fact that they're stranded on Gilligan's Island. That might explain the two bodies in the cave. Gilligan and Mary Ann, perhaps? They were the two youngest in the group afterall, you'd expect them to be the last ones alive. And Mary Ann did have black hair (black rock), while Gilligan always wore the *white* hat (white rock).

No, HBO would ruin it the way things are going now at that "premium" channel. :confused:

Deadwood/Entourage/Curb Your Enthusiasm (?) now Lucky Louie... that's a little too much even for me.

As far as quality, intelligent programming, FX is hot on HBO's heels and set to overtake very soon.

Nip/Tuck is going to have to dramatically improve this coming season over the last miserably awful season if it's going to stick around much longer. Rescue Me seems to be floundering this year as well.

Over There was a good show. FX cancelled it. Thief was a good show. FX cancelled that one too.

The two networks seem to be in the same boat, if you ask me.

Nip/Tuck is going to have to dramatically improve this coming season over the last miserably awful season if it's going to stick around much longer. Rescue Me seems to be floundering this year as well.

Over There was a good show. FX cancelled it. Thief was a good show. FX cancelled that one too.

The two networks seem to be in the same boat, if you ask me.
You're right, Nip/Tuck does need to come back down to earth, and I was sad to see those others go as well, with those, Rescue Me and The Shield, FX would have had a fantastic lineup, but I'm realizing that most people, apparently, don't like the same things we do.

Maybe a new network with best of HBO, SHO and FX, I'd $20-25 a month for that. :)

I enjoy Morgan Spurlock’s 30 Days on FX - season 2 starts tonight.

Will finish disc 3 of Lost S1 tonight – pretty damn good – the wife is really sucked into it. I’ve already developed a crush on Freckles. Too bad all of the girls were on a 90-day fast before they crashed, they could have used some of that stored fat. :)

Can anyone confirm, did Lost skip 'The Hunting Party' and 'Fire and Ice' last week? Did it air and I missed it? This week is the 'Long Con', so either I missed it or they skipped two episodes. Any confirmation one way or another?

Looks like they skipped them.

I enjoy Morgan Spurlock’s 30 Days on FX - season 2 starts tonight.Yeah, me too. But I wish he was a bit more balanced.

After spending 30 days behind bars, how about spending 30 days with a family that has lost a loved one or had a member tortured or raped by one of those inmates.

After spending 30 days with a family of illegal aliens, how about spending 30 days with a family of legal imigrants trying to go through the red-tape laden front door, or 30 days in a school forced to halve its teaching time because it must teach in two languages, or 30 days in a hospital that can't keep its doors open because of the overabundance of victimized-by-their-employers, non-income-tax-paying, uninsured illegal imigrants.

Oh, on topic: If the folks near/in the hatch were not killed, aren't they likely injured? But weren't all the medications stored in the hatch? Are they doomed to a slow death a-la the Marshall or Boone?

Xesdeeni

Yeah, me too. But I wish he was a bit more balanced.

After spending 30 days behind bars, how about spending 30 days with a family that has lost a loved one or had a member tortured or raped by one of those inmates.

After spending 30 days with a family of illegal aliens, how about spending 30 days with a family of legal imigrants trying to go through the red-tape laden front door, or 30 days in a school forced to halve its teaching time because it must teach in two languages, or 30 days in a hospital that can't keep its doors open because of the overabundance of victimized-by-their-employers, non-income-tax-paying, uninsured illegal imigrants.

Xesdeeni
Excellent idea, Xesdeeni - maybe you should e-mail them about that. They do seem to have a very short season so that may play into it. Also, some of what you are proposing is very political and I suspect they just want to entertain and not go down that road, but I'd like it.

lol. I’m trying to do this without reading your last paragraph. I have to be careful when I look in here, although I’ll never remember anything I’ve read by the time I see S2. :)

Can anyone confirm, did Lost skip 'The Hunting Party' and 'Fire and Ice' last week? Did it air and I missed it? This week is the 'Long Con', so either I missed it or they skipped two episodes. Any confirmation one way or another?

Yes, it looks like they are skipping them. Tonight was supposed to be The Long Con, but it looks like it's not going to be on either. ABC;s lost page now shows One of Them as the next episode airing Aug 4..........oh well........

Yes, it looks like they are skipping them. Tonight was supposed to be The Long Con, but it looks like it's not going to be on either. ABC;s lost page now shows One of Them as the next episode airing Aug 4..........oh well........
I’m suspecting a conspiracy - they’re going to force me to buy S2. Otherwise, with everyone else trying to rent it from BB it will take me 3 months to finish. I gotta say I wont be very upset, because watching on DVD is heaven. E-bay here I come. :D

168 Hours in a week, and ABC can't find room for 2 hours of LOST. WTF? If they aren't going to bother to re-run one of their top shows, why should I bother to watch season 3? I can't even remember where the story left off three weeks ago.

Yes, it looks like they are skipping them. Tonight was supposed to be The Long Con, but it looks like it's not going to be on either. ABC;s lost page now shows One of Them as the next episode airing Aug 4..........oh well........

Whoa...I didn't even notice this. Wow, so even if they do come back with S2 episodes over the summer, I can't watch them because they're skipping them? :mad: :mad: :mad:

So now out of the three shows (24, House, and Lost) I'm aware of that were going to show the entire season over the summer only House remains because it hasn't stopped and I don't think they've skipped any eps.

I don't like this. ABC doesn't feel it worth their while to re-run Lost over the Summer. They've suddenly, unexpectedly decided they would rather run other things.
I'm not seeing the commitment here, makes me wonder if they will stick to their plan of running most of Season 3 in a row.

I don't like this. ABC doesn't feel it worth their while to re-run Lost over the Summer. They've suddenly, unexpectedly decided they would rather run other things.
I'm not seeing the commitment here, makes me wonder if they will stick to their plan of running most of Season 3 in a row.

Why would the summer schedule have anything to do with their plans for the fall and spring TV season????

Why would the summer schedule have anything to do with their plans for the fall and spring TV season????

it shows lack of dedication to one of their best shows...just disappointing as I was rewatching all the episodes in HD and now I don't get to see them all....I stopped watching the re-runs when they do these stupid little breaks and I'll wait for the DVD set now

trying other shows in the summer shows a lack of dedication to their bread and butter show?? These are some of the worst rating weeks in tv, so it is no suprise that reruns are not show and new original programming is shown to try and generate viewers.

Also weren't they showing like 2 shows every wednesday for a couple of weeks?? They can still take a couple of weeks break and show two or even 3 every week as the premier gets closer.

Why is the topic of a show in this forum?? Most of the responses are not about the HD signal of the show, it is more about content. Shouldn't this be in a TV forum if all that is to be done is discuss the content of the show, not the HD aspect of the show???

Why is the topic of a show in this forum?? Most of the responses are not about the HD signal of the show, it is more about content. Shouldn't this be in a TV forum if all that is to be done is discuss the content of the show, not the HD aspect of the show???

This thread has almost 18,000 posts because discussion of the show's "HD aspect" would have only consumed about .01% of that. It's 720p and looks real good. This is the HDTV Programming Forum and programming topics include content. You are free to go find a technical forum elsewhere and talk endlessly about the show's PQ if that's your only concern. :rolleyes:

Not really worried, it just that when any other show thread is started up and people veer off the HD topic and talk about the show, it either gets locked or people crap all over it and ask that it be moved. The same consideration should be for this topic 18000 posts or not.

Not really worried, it just that when any other show thread is started up and people veer off the HD topic and talk about the show, it either gets locked or people crap all over it and ask that it be moved. The same consideration should be for this topic 18000 posts or not.

That only happens if the show in question is not HD, and sometimes not even then if there's enough interest. This forum is all about content. There's not really a non-HD programming forum here on AVS, so sometimes this one does double-duty until, as you mention, people start to complain. And there's no shortage of complainers around here! ;)

These are some of the worst rating weeks in tv, so it is no suprise that reruns are not show and new original programming is shown to try and generate viewers.

Oxymoron defined. :p

Oxymoron defined. :pI thought that was Billy Mays.

Also weren't they showing like 2 shows every wednesday for a couple of weeks?? They can still take a couple of weeks break and show two or even 3 every week as the premier gets closer.



That's true, but what's the point if they are skipping episodes. A lot can happen in three episodes, and I have no intention of watching them out of order. Would you watch them out of order?

are they skipping episodes??? The ones they have shown, have they been in order??

Yup skipping episodes, no S2 DVDs till september. So i-tunes or piracy if you are catching up.

To all those who wondered why I complained about the skipping of episodes rerun during the summer, and what that has to do with the Fall season, season 3.

OK, 'Lost' started out a huge hit, let's agree on that. Season 2 came and Lost took a bit of a ratings slide. They kept taking long breaks in between new episodes, and ratings slid even more. In fact 'Lost' is not even in ABCs top ten overall anymore. OK so far. Many people cited this scheduling as a reason to quit, and some thought the quality wasn't there.

Shows like Lost have a tough time picking up new viewers or bringing wayward viewers back into the fold if they've missed part or all of Season 2. It's a tough show to jump into the middle of it, to miss all the clue and secrets, connections, etc.

Now comes just my opinion. I thought it was a great idea for ABC to run the entire Season 2, in back to back episodes, in order, with no skips, just before Season 3 started. I think this gives viewers who gave up on Season 2 a chance to see it all in an accelerated fashion. I think some of those viewers would go on to watch Season 3, thus giving 'Lost' higher ratings, and insuring that they keep making 'Lost' and complete the story. :)
Also, it's nice for a lot of us to come up to speed again on it. The Season 2 DVDs are coming out kind of late to really watch them all before S3 starts.

So, in conclusion, I thought ABC was taking some steps to try to get 'Lost' back on the right track, reclaim some lost viewers, pique our interests once again. Now it seems like that is *not* the case. Since they don't seem to care all that much, it makes me wonder if they will stick with their plan to air 'Lost' in two big, continous blocks, or if they will say 'Oh screw it, lets just pre-empt this week's episode, kick it back a week. Who cares if we show the new episodes totally intermittently. "

That is why I am pissed, concerned, and little worried.

Oh, I think the schedule for S3 is not going to change beyond either adding or subtracting one episode from the end of the first "pod" (maybe 6, maybe 7 eps). They've made a big deal out of doing this, they're committed to it, bank on it.

As to the rerun schedule this summer, I just don't think they care. If a viewer cares enough about seeing the second season of LOST to religiously watch all 22 episodes straight through during the summer when there are so many other distractions, then they're also they types who will say, "aw screw it" and pick up the DVD set when it comes out. In fact, skipping re-run episodes may drive some folks to do that as well. This show has a lot of existing and potential revenue streams.

oh christ, why split hairs? You got the point.

oh christ, why split hairs? You got the point.

LOL

-- never mind --
;)

Hmmm, it looks like my post either didn't take or got deleted.

Sorry if this winds up being a double post.

The problem is, this is the NO SPOILERS thread and what you have just said qualifies as a spoiler. It hasn't played, it hasn't been in a preview.

Oh, sorry, I didn't realize it counted as a spoiler, I guess I thought it was kind of generic, like 'more sex' or 'characters die' . My bad.

it shows lack of dedication to one of their best shows...just disappointing as I was rewatching all the episodes in HD and now I don't get to see them all....I stopped watching the re-runs when they do these stupid little breaks and I'll wait for the DVD set now
And somehow they still find time to show George Lopez and Freddy....especially the crappy crossover show that they showed last week where Lost should have been...

And somehow they still find time to show George Lopez and Freddy....especially the crappy crossover show that they showed last week where Lost should have been...
I haven't seen the ratings for those shows, but I've caught a few chunks of them over the course of the season. Are they actually going to be back in the fall. They're horrible!

I am curious a lot of people seem to think Lost Season 2 was not very good compared to Season 1. I didn't like the pace of Season 2 very much but thought it was not much of a drop in quality.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? The Emmy snub makes me wonder, too.

I haven't seen the ratings for those shows, but I've caught a few chunks of them over the course of the season. Are they actually going to be back in the fall. They're horrible!

I am curious a lot of people seem to think Lost Season 2 was not very good compared to Season 1. I didn't like the pace of Season 2 very much but thought it was not much of a drop in quality.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? The Emmy snub makes me wonder, too.
season 2 suffered dramatically from the LONG BREAKS and NONCONTINUITY OF BROADCASTING.

by the ending stuff was happening that the VIEWER didn't remember how it related to earlier in the season.

the show was excellent and i'm sure new viewers watching the dvd (should they have been sold earlier) would enjoy them.

execs already recognized this as a major problem and have remedied it the best ABC/Disney is capable (one long break like an intermission in a play).

ymmv

I'd much have a continuous run like "24", but at least this 2 part season was announced early enough that the writers can write them like 2 small self-standing seasons.

And somehow they still find time to show George Lopez and Freddy....especially the crappy crossover show that they showed last week where Lost should have been...

They are just giving people another chance to watch these shows this summer since NOBODY tuned in last season.

This thread was more fun a couple months ago when everyone was arguing with Quinocampo all the time. We need to get him on here to argue with everyone about scheduling to keep this thing interesting.

This thread was more fun a couple months ago when everyone was arguing with Quinocampo all the time. We need to get him on here to argue with everyone about scheduling to keep this thing interesting.

Yeah, right.

Probably should have closed the thread for the summer and just let CPanther repost his favorite posts of last season. Repeat two a week, except sometimes one or even none. Then make all of last seasons posts available in print just before the start of season 3.

Ha Ha - not a bad idea. There are some classic early theories, very funny with the benefit of hindsight.

I'd much have a continuous run like "24", but at least this 2 part season was announced early enough that the writers can write them like 2 small self-standing seasons.

I wonder what made them do 6 episodes though...seems like a weird number...why not do half the season before Christmas and half after? Or do 10...or I don't know...seems weird

I wonder what made them do 6 episodes though...seems like a weird number...why not do half the season before Christmas and half after? Or do 10...or I don't know...seems weird

Disney Marketing and Accounting divisions. :rolleyes:

I wonder what made them do 6 episodes though...seems like a weird number...why not do half the season before Christmas and half after? Or do 10...or I don't know...seems weird
thanksgiving and holidays probably.

Ha Ha - not a bad idea. There are some classic early theories, very funny with the benefit of hindsight.

Well.... I only started watching at the beginning of Season 2, so this summer I have gone back and I am watching the DVDs for S1... As I finish the episodes, I have been going through and reading this thread (up to EP22 and 6000+ posts :eek: )... I've also gone and read backwards quite a ways from the end as I only found this forum at the very tail end of S2...

Anyway, I digress.... my point was, there HAVE been a lot of funny quotes/conversations/arguments, etc... I wish I had been jotting down some of my favorites as I went so I can share a bunch of them here for some good laughs...

I think I generally get a good kick out of an argument that seems so trivial yet goes on for days and days a la "How could the convenience store guy have recognized Hurley as the lotto winner".... Then there was Sayid's lightbulb discussion.... and who could forget Boone's radio transmission and the ensuing ABC cover-up conspiracy theories??

There is one particular comment that I remember striking me particularly funny, and it happened to be posted by our illustrious mod...

" I can't imagine any airline employee removing a dead body from a coffin and hoisting it over his shoulder to go stick it in storage someplace. Can you see Jack's dead Dad sitting in a corner tagged and in a room with all the unclaimed luggage and other items?"

Anyway, look forward to joining you guys for S3....

Has a thread jumped the shark when most of the posts are about how great the thread used to be? ;)

<-------------Doesn't miss Quino either.

Then make all of last seasons posts available in print just before the start of season 3.

Following the pattern of the DVDs, shouldn't that be just AFTER the start of season 3? :p

Well.... I only started watching at the beginning of Season 2, so this summer I have gone back and I am watching the DVDs for S1... As I finish the episodes, I have been going through and reading this thread (up to EP22 and 6000+ posts :eek: )... I've also gone and read backwards quite a ways from the end as I only found this forum at the very tail end of S2...

Anyway, I digress.... my point was, there HAVE been a lot of funny quotes/conversations/arguments, etc... I wish I had been jotting down some of my favorites as I went so I can share a bunch of them here for some good laughs...

I think I generally get a good kick out of an argument that seems so trivial yet goes on for days and days a la "How could the convenience store guy have recognized Hurley as the lotto winner".... Then there was Sayid's lightbulb discussion.... and who could forget Boone's radio transmission and the ensuing ABC cover-up conspiracy theories??

There is one particular comment that I remember striking me particularly funny, and it happened to be posted by our illustrious mod...

" I can't imagine any airline employee removing a dead body from a coffin and hoisting it over his shoulder to go stick it in storage someplace. Can you see Jack's dead Dad sitting in a corner tagged and in a room with all the unclaimed luggage and other items?"

Anyway, look forward to joining you guys for S3....

Anybody that reads 6,000 posts is welcome here anytime!!!

Anybody that reads 6,000 posts is welcome here anytime!!!

Just to clarify (as well as to show that I'm clearly insane)... I've also read from the back of this thread to somewhere around the 10,000th post... So I guess I've read somewhere in the ballpark of 13,000+ posts :eek:

Not sure how may posts I've read (post count was around 2,00 then, I think). I started somewhere near the end of season 1, and I think I have read (or at least skimmed) every post since (not sure, but I do have email notification). I started reading to see if you folks could help me figure out what is going on with the show, but you didn't (couldn't) really. But it has increased my enjoyment of the show to have things I didn't notice during the show brought to my attention here. Although, most (if not all) of what has been posted here this summer is (like this post of mine) worthless, as far as enhancing the LOST experience, IMHO.

Although, most (if not all) of what has been posted here this summer is (like this post of mine) worthless, as far as enhancing the LOST experience, IMHO.

Well...uh...gee thanks!

This long thread is cumbersome. Any thoughts of breaking it up into episodes, not that discussing a past episode would be a no-no. Just easier to follow, e.g. TiVo Forum style.

A new topic should be started for the new TV season, once it starts.

A new topic should be started for the new TV season, once it starts.

boooooo....I like this setup....why ruin it now? its worked for two seasons already

Changing structure would probably attract the unwanted attention of those who want *NO* content based discussion, only technical aspect (picture clarity, color etc)
Get those guy's attention and we can kiss this thread goodbye.

Changing structure would probably attract the unwanted attention of those who want *NO* content based discussion, only technical aspect (picture clarity, color etc)
Get those guy's attention and we can kiss this thread goodbye.

I wonder whether Lost would be better on BluRay discs vs HD DVD's?

- Tom (sorry, just bored ;) )

niiiiice..
that should throw 'em off for a while! ;)
We'll just make sure sure to comment on the HD quality of each ep, maybe comment on the color each week, just in case one those killjoys pops in, looking for trouble.

I for one could care less about Lost's picture quality or resolution, I watch the show FOR THE CONTENT...As you can see from the size of this thread, the content is the INTERESTING part....not to see how pretty the damn island is...start your own technical thread if you want to talk about a missing line of resolution in episode 16...

*watched all of Season 2 on a 10 year old 19" Sony CRT* and loved every minute of it

boooooo....I like this setup....why ruin it now? its worked for two seasons already

Agreed, and it's kind of cool to see how big it can get; may be the longest thread in the history of AVS. Don't try to fix something that ain't broke!!

<-------------Doesn't miss Quino either.

:p

Agreed, and it's kind of cool to see how big it can get; may be the longest thread in the history of AVS. Don't try to fix something that ain't broke!!


I agree. Since we have probably 2 more seasons of Lost, we need to see if this thread can surpass 30,000 posts and 1.5 million views.

Anyone know what the longest thread in AVS is?

Not that I've read every post in the thread, it is somewhat interesting to go back and read some of the posts from the first season and see how far the series has come (e.g. the unseen mechanical monster in the first few episodes) and to read some of the early theories.

...start your own technical thread if you want to talk about a missing line of resolution in episode 16...

*watched all of Season 2 on a 10 year old 19" Sony CRT* and loved every minute of it

Maybe we could call it "Lost - on ABC in HDTV".

Maybe we could call it "Lost - on ABC in HDTV".

or

"Geek Whiners who want to talk about Lost's resolutions and picture quality - on ABC in HD"

Ouch - that hurts!


or

"Geek Whiners who want to talk about Lost's resolutions and picture quality - on ABC in HD"

I for one could care less about Lost's picture quality or resolution, I watch the show FOR THE CONTENT...As you can see from the size of this thread, the content is the INTERESTING part....not to see how pretty the damn island is...start your own technical thread if you want to talk about a missing line of resolution in episode 16...

*watched all of Season 2 on a 10 year old 19" Sony CRT* and loved every minute of it

I think you might be in the wrong forum. :)

The primary point of the thread is discussion of the audio/video quality and other technical issues - the content discussion is filler. While that seems in contrast to what we actually see in the thread, it is still officially the case.

Unless you watched letterboxed on your 19", you missed about 1/3 of season 2 - you might want to catch up before season 3 starts. ;)

There's typically some commentary on PQ of each episode right after they've aired, so I think the thread is still topical.

I'm also against splitting it out per season. I've read this whole thing and I want it to continue, dammit! :)

I think you might be in the wrong forum. :)

The primary point of the thread is discussion of the audio/video quality and other technical issues - the content discussion is filler. While that seems in contrast to what we actually see in the thread, it is still officially the case.

Unless you watched letterboxed on your 19", you missed about 1/3 of season 2 - you might want to catch up before season 3 starts. ;)

well I was re-watching all of them in HD until someone at ABC decide to play "THE ONE" (which rightfully so got cancelled after two airings)...so now they skipped a bunch of episodes and I'll just wait for the DVD.

And I would say 1-2% of this thread is about the actual technical aspects of the show while the rest is about serious content...and filler or not, its still more interesting in the actual bitrate of a certain scene

And I would say 1-2% of this thread is about the actual technical aspects of the show while the rest is about serious content...and filler or not, its still more interesting in the actual bitrate of a certain scene

True, but it's a necessary 1% - 2% to keep this thread topical at AVS.

Plus, despite how people may view A/V enthusiasts, the fact is we don't view the picture quality as more important than the fact that some of the Losties are frolicking on the beach in bikinis - we just realize the added value that superior picture quality provides via increased detail of those bikini scenes. :)

"we just realize the added value that superior picture quality provides via increased detail of those bikini scenes"

AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone know what the longest thread in AVS is?Probably either "The Time Machine" (from the DVD Software Discussion section), started by mhetman, or "Now Showing: What We Watched (from the General Home Theater forum), started by CaptainRandy. And thanks to you, this thread will rank right up there.

Probably either "The Time Machine" (from the DVD Software Discussion section), started by mhetman, or "Now Showing: What We Watched (from the General Home Theater forum), started by CaptainRandy. And thanks to you, this thread will rank right up there.

Many threads in the Local forum with more activity than those examples. The closest I've seen to this one is the HOTP sticky.

The fastest growing threads were probably the Hi Def DVD News threads pre-launch. They grew extremely fast, then got closed because of fighting, then the next one would start, grow fast, get closed. Now on the 5th revision, but activity has slowed now that both formats have launched.

Ah...OK. But isn't the T.M. thread like 4 years old? I guess he didn't specify length of posts, or age of thread.

I wonder what made them do 6 episodes though...seems like a weird number...why not do half the season before Christmas and half after? Or do 10...or I don't know...seems weird

Sorry for the late post on this. 6 eps is actually a standard increment when dealing with episodic TV. A lot of contracts with writers are struck for just 6 episodes at a time. 13 episodes is a typical first season episode order and if the show does well they order "the back 9" for a full season of 22 episodes which can seem odd from a round number standpoint too. The probably settled on 6 because it will partly give them a breaking point to dismiss some writers if they aren't working out and also to avoid that holiday battle of the x-mas specials and such. Teh bright side is that there will be even more continuous episodes when it returns.

The primary point of the thread is discussion of the audio/video quality and other technical issues - the content discussion is filler.Huh...when I read the title to this forum, "HDTV Programming", I thought the emphasis was on the "programming" (I must of thought it was HDTV Programs), not HDTV technology. Guess I was wrong. :rolleyes: So is there really no place on AVS Forum that was meant for discussion of TV show content?

This is the place for discussion of HDTV shows. "Filler" was probably a poor choice of words, but the point is that AVS is primarily about Audio/Video and we should always be willing to pause a content discussion to address any A/V issues that arise (related to the show on a national level - local issues belong in the Local HDTV forum).

If it were only about PQ, "No Spoilers" wouldn't make much sense in the title and would only apply to something like: The producer said we're gonna have another top notch presentation next week ;)

I think you might be in the wrong forum. :)

The primary point of the thread is discussion of the audio/video quality and other technical issues - the content discussion is filler. While that seems in contrast to what we actually see in the thread, it is still officially the case.

Unless you watched letterboxed on your 19", you missed about 1/3 of season 2 - you might want to catch up before season 3 starts. ;)

Killjoys have arrived.
:(

Well, OK, that makes sense. Still, I quess we do need an occasional reminder that it's not a TV show forum, it's an HDTV show forum. But the time is fast approaching when HDTV will be so commonplace that there won't be much tech stuff worthy of discussion.

Back on topic...Can't wait for the start of LOST season 3! HDTV picture, 5.1 sound and an intriguing show too!

So is it October yet?

So is it October yet?
October has come and gone...man were those some great episodes ;)

Huh...when I read the title to this forum, "HDTV Programming", I thought the emphasis was on the "programming" (I must of thought it was HDTV Programs), not HDTV technology. Guess I was wrong. :rolleyes: So is there really no place on AVS Forum that was meant for discussion of TV show content?


I thought the same as Neil. I have been reading this thread since the beginning and have thoroughly enjoyed it as it appears many others have due to the number of posts and views - do not change anything! There is sufficient discussion about the technical side to keep it a valid thread.

Greg

Well, OK, that makes sense. Still, I quess we do need an occasional reminder that it's not a TV show forum, it's an HDTV show forum. But the time is fast approaching when HDTV will be so commonplace that there won't be much tech stuff worthy of discussion.

We've probably already crested that hill. The vast majority of new programming is in HD and the number of "forgetting to flip the switch" issues are much more rare so the technical discussions have been greatly reduced.

For those that miss the more technical discussions and complaints, keep your chin up, SNF is coming very soon. ;)

The primary point of the thread is discussion of the audio/video quality and other technical issues - the content discussion is filler. While that seems in contrast to what we actually see in the thread, it is still officially the case.
This is so patently false it's silly. Not just this thread - this forum. It's obviously 90% about the content not the a/v.

I won't even mention the "So you think you can dance" thread. Oops I just did.

You should read the subsequent posts before posting. Nobody said that the majority volume of the posts were not content oriented. The point was that we won't ever exclude a technical question or an HDTV PQ observation about a show.

I read them.

The other point though is that we maintain a charade here that it's about HDTV when it's really a general forum about broadcast television. A lousy HDTV show is fair game, an interesting SD show is verboten. No wait, it can be SD as long as it's 16:9.

That's part of the transition from the days of just the D* HD Demo loop to where we are today. The line was very necessary before to keep the focus on the new technology as it was in it's growth phase - now it serves to exclude a relative few handful of shows.

Maybe AVS discussion will motivate those few holdout producers to upgrade. :)

It will be odd to see Barefoot Countessa (sp?) threads but not the SciFi friday show threads.

Anyway....back to the topic.

Anyway....back to the topic.
I watched a recorded episode of The Office last night - where the male workers were headed down to the warehouse and Dwight said "This is just like on Lost where they met The Others...". The picture quality was great. :)

I just got back from a business trip in Vancouver B.C. where I met with a guy who works in Colorado who just got back from vacationing in Hawiaii....

Did you at least discuss Lost at dinner, or perhaps during the subsequent breakfast? :D

It's amazing how a show goes away for the summer and we still sit here and talk about it. I suppose that shows which shows are great and which aren't.

It's been so long since a new episode I can hardly remember the plot. IIRC, on the last episode some guy betrayed his team and got voted off the island. Was that correct?

- Tom

It's been so long since a new episode I can hardly remember the plot. IIRC, on the last episode some guy betrayed his team and got voted off the island. Was that correct?

- Tom
Nah, people on Lost don't get voted off...they either get pushed off a cliff in a plane or get a cap busted in them ;)

C'mon people, it's been awhile, but we should all be able to recall the main plot: the Island has broken up into two sides: one that keeps the fire going, and the other (more savage ones) that want to hunt. The hunters stuck a pigs head on a sharpened stick, and they kind of worship it. Oh yeah, if someone wants to talk, they have to have the conch.....

And thanks to you, this thread will rank right up there.

Even though I was the OP, I can hardly take any credit for the length of this thread with only 40+ posts, unlike our fearless leader (CPanther) with well over 1000 posts.

C'mon everybody, pull your load!

C'mon people, it's been awhile, but we should all be able to recall the main plot: the Island has broken up into two sides: one that keeps the fire going, and the other (more savage ones) that want to hunt. The hunters stuck a pigs head on a sharpened stick, and they kind of worship it. Oh yeah, if someone wants to talk, they have to have the conch.....No wait. Isn't this the show about one guy stuck on an island with his friend the volleyball?

Xesdeeni

No wait. Isn't this the show about one guy stuck on an island with his friend the volleyball?

Xesdeeni

WILSON!!!!!!

It's been so long since a new episode I can hardly remember the plot. IIRC, on the last episode some guy betrayed his team and got voted off the island. Was that correct?

- Tom

You are correct! Then the guy got caught for tax fraud and was sentenced to five years of sitting in a bunker and pushing a button all day.


Nah, people on Lost don't get voted off...they either get pushed off a cliff in a plane or get a cap busted in them ;)

Or they get their head bitten off by an invisible dinosaur. My biggest question about the show so far is what species the invisible dinsosaur is and if it became invisible with the technology from "Hollow Man" or "Memoirs of An Invisible Man." (two examples of cinema excellence)

Or they get their head bitten off by an invisible dinosaur. My biggest question about the show so far is what species the invisible dinsosaur is and if it became invisible with the technology from "Hollow Man" or "Memoirs of An Invisible Man." (two examples of cinema excellence)

Oh, we know what the "monster" is (a.k.a. the island security system as described by Rousseau). The LOST producers have denied it, kinda', but I believe they're just trying to throw us off the scent. ;)

My own opinion is the function of the monster probably changed once they learned to do the video special effects for the nifty black smoke.

And I think what's-his-name was actually voted off the island by us, here, since we objected to his constant whining about finding Walt.

- Tom

And I think what's-his-name was actually voted off the island by us, here, since we objected to his constant whining about finding Walt.


Aw c'mon, aren't you going to miss all those anguished cries of "My boy! They took my boy!"....? :D

and MY BYBEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! :)

Aw c'mon, aren't you going to miss all those anguished cries of "My boy! They took my boy!"....? :DEh, I thought "you guy's" were thrilled when he shot & killed poor little Ana Lucia! :(

And what about that "four-toed" thingy?

Eh, I thought "you guy's" were thrilled when he shot & killed poor little Ana Lucia! :(

And what about that "four-toed" thingy?

Hey, I liked Ana Lucia (I especially liked her low-cut jeans!), which puts me in a big minority around here. Seems like a great gal to have, you know, a few shots of tequila with. ;)

And the producers have said that the four-toed foot is part of the island's larger mythology. That should be quite cool.

You aren't alone. I liked AL, and if she was a tad annoying sometimes, I chalked it up to the likelyhood that some of these Losties would have to be annoying if they are going for realism.

All I know is the Others better have a stockpile of hot chicks, cause the ratio has fallen unacceptably low.

I liked her too, and her attitude was just about right for an LA cop. :D

Hey, I liked Ana Lucia (I especially liked her low-cut jeans!), which puts me in a big minority around here. Seems like a great gal to have, you know, a few shots of tequila with. ;) Complete agreement there, especially with the "low-cut" jeans. ;) And the producers have said that the four-toed foot is part of the island's larger mythology. That should be quite cool.I'm thinking it was what Locke & Boone had the opportunity to face down. Kind of a Lost "wild-card" thrown into the mix.All I know is the Others better have a stockpile of hot chicks, cause the ratio has fallen unacceptably low.First Shannon, then Ana Lucia... Oh, when will this horror end?I liked her too, and her attitude was just about right for an LA cop. :D Or like a residential property tax assessor I know. :mad:

Hey, I liked Ana Lucia (I especially liked her low-cut jeans!), which puts me in a big minority around here. Seems like a great gal to have, you know, a few shots of tequila with. ;)


I liked her midget thumbs. :D Her acting was questionable.

I liked her midget thumbs. :D Her acting was questionable.

Picky, picky.... :p

Did you at least discuss Lost at dinner, or perhaps during the subsequent breakfast? :D
:D :D ... :mad:

For everyone needing a LOST fix, there's a new official LOST podcast available here:
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/podcasts/111248.html

aahh, Ana Lucia's low cut jeans....very nice.
Boy, Oceanic Flight 815 sure had a lot of good looking people on board (I'm sure this has been done to death :rolleyes: )

I liked her midget thumbs. :D Her acting was questionable.Should we ask the producers to resurrect "Gabrielle Union" during season 3? :)

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzequg9f//gabrielle_union.JPG

If you thought the acting criticism was harsh with MR, wait 'till you see what happens if GU joined the cast.

Wait Miss Union is actually joining the cast? I thought there was only 2 new characters that have been announced thus far...?

I hated Anna Lucia...but I can't stand anything she's in since she was in Fast and the Furious...her personality just bugs me

And I think what's-his-name was actually voted off the island by us, here, since we objected to his constant whining about finding Walt.

- Tom

Can we vote somebody off the thread? Can we, huh, huh, huh?

waaaaaalllllllttttt!

OK, has anyone figured out ABC's summer rerun strategy for "Lost" yet? Tonight our PVR was set to record "Lost" but what was being captured ,until I stopped it, was yet another boring George Lopez episode. Funny thing is, the past few weeks the TWC electronic program guide caught the late changes and cancelled the recordings. Tonight the EPG said (and still says) that Lost is on...

Mike

Can we vote somebody off the thread? Can we, huh, huh, huh?I think Q's already gone ;). I like GL, BTW, but I'd rather see Lost.

OK, has anyone figured out ABC's summer rerun strategy for "Lost" yet? Tonight our PVR was set to record "Lost" but what was being captured ,until I stopped it, was yet another boring George Lopez episode. Funny thing is, the past few weeks the TWC electronic program guide caught the late changes and cancelled the recordings. Tonight the EPG said (and still says) that Lost is on...

Mike
Yeah, seems like ABC ran two hours of George Lopez, but no Lost....

And then they have Medical Mysteries running right now with those people who are covered in hair....

And still they find no time to air the rest of Lost...

Mike - I'm with you. I am catching up with the 2nd season and now ABC's not showing what is left. Waht gives???? My TIVO recorded the GL show as well.

Anyone know what is going on? This is exactly the reason why I don't like to get cut up with these shows...we are at the mercy of the networks.

They screw up the rerun schedule of a serial like 'Lost' to push a couple of 'one off' shows like 'George Lopez'
Oh, that's OK ABC, just kind of change the channel on us while we're in the middle of 'Lost'
Hey, while your at it, why don't you start skipping the 2nd half of football games and the 9th inning of baseball, I'm sure no one will mind.

Gotta boost the DVD sales. ;)

I think Q's already gone ;). I like GL, BTW, but I'd rather see Lost.
He only said he'd be gone for the summer.

He only said he'd be gone for the summer.

Ya just had to remind us, didn't you? :D

They screw up the rerun schedule of a serial like 'Lost' to push a couple of 'one off' shows like 'George Lopez'


Do reruns of 'George Lopez' beat reruns of LOST in ratings during the summer? 'Cause that's the only reason they'd do this.

Gotta boost the DVD sales. ;)


Especially the bootleg ones. Who can wait. . .

Do reruns of 'George Lopez' beat reruns of LOST in ratings during the summer? 'Cause that's the only reason they'd do this.

I don't know the ratings 'George Lopez' is getting (pretty low I'm sure) but I've been following the ratings of the 'Lost' repeats this summer over at fredfa's 'Hot Topics' entertainment thread. They've been dismal, hovering around 2.0 (only a point higher than 'The One') and ranking below or near Spanish soap operas on Univision and Telemundo. Ratings were terrible for 'Lost' repeats this summer, so that's why 'Lost' repeats are MIA and unannounced!

Ya just had to remind us, didn't you? :D

C'mon now. You have to have someone you can count on to argue against your point or play devil's advocate ALL the time, don't you?

Since his departure I can't stand the constant agreement and harmony that this thread has been in. :rolleyes:


I'll have to say that I am extremely excited about Season 3 (I guess that goes without saying around here). Lost and My Name Is Earl are easily my two most anticipated returning shows starting this fall. At least one of them still has a hot Latin woman who wears tight jeans frequently. (Sorry off topic) I still think about that Earl ep. where she pole dances with the pool cue.

Adding her to the island would definately boast the hot lady count.

Anybody listen to the podcast?

I got about halfway through, will finish later...

Avoiding spoilers, it's basically an audio of the Lost conference at Comic-con in San Diego a few weeks ago. Jorge (never realized his was pronounced "hore-hay") Lopez and Daniel Dae Kim were guest speakers, along with the regular list of producers (Damon Lindeloff, etc).

It was interesting, especially getting a glimpse of the geeks that showed up for the conference. I thought *we* were bad. :)

The most intriguing question asked was about the possibility of an "underwater hatch," based on the cable on the beach leading into the ocean.

I stopped listening right around the time a Hanso shill started up with "questions" for the speakers. :eyeroll:

C'mon now. You have to have someone you can count on to argue against your point or play devil's advocate ALL the time, don't you?

Since his departure I can't stand the constant agreement and harmony that this thread has been in. :rolleyes:


I'll have to say that I am extremely excited about Season 3 (I guess that goes without saying around here). Lost and My Name Is Earl are easily my two most anticipated returning shows starting this fall. At least one of them still has a hot Latin woman who wears tight jeans frequently. (Sorry off topic) I still think about that Earl ep. where she pole dances with the pool cue.

Adding her to the island would definately boast the hot lady count.It seems like J.Lo (http://www.jenniferlopez.com/) isn't doing much these days. :D

I actually think J Lo is very attractive but Catalina on Earl is smoking hot:

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/48/21/20/10m.jpg

Oh, and like Kate, she's a bit of a tomboy too:

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/04/50/69f.jpg

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/04/50/69f.jpg

I actually think J Lo is very attractive but Catalina on Earl is smoking hot:

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/48/21/20/10m.jpg

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Oh, and like Kate, she's a bit of a tomboy too:

http://ia.imdb.com/media/imdb/01/I/04/50/69f.jpg

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Definitely, Nadine Velazquez is currently my number one TV "hot babe", nobody else comes close.

Or perhaps you "fellas" might like to see Charo (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/08/06/DDGPBE2AS033.DTL) :eek: on the island? cuchi, cuchi :D

Definitely, Nadine Velazquez is currently my number one TV "hot babe", nobody else comes close.

With all due respect to Nadine, the sexiest TV babe (although not seen in the U.S.) has got to be Melissa Theuriau.

http://www.fresh99.com/news-anchor-melissa-theuriau.htm

Or perhaps you "fellas" might like to see Charo (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/08/06/DDGPBE2AS033.DTL) :eek: on the island? cuchi, cuchi :D

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With all due respect to Nadine, the sexiest TV babe (although not seen in the U.S.) has got to be Melissa Theuriau.

http://www.fresh99.com/news-anchor-melissa-theuriau.htm
Very nice, but, does she wear a maid's outfit on TV..? :eek: :p :D

she's hot but this internet phenomenom is getting a little bit out of hand

Give me Evanagline any day of the week!

Give me Evanagline any day of the week!

Me too. Dom is a lucky guy!

Very nice, but, does she wear a maid's outfit on TV..? :eek: :p :D

I doubt she does the stripper dance routine either.

I doubt she does the stripper dance routine either.

That stud in her tongue would indicate otherwise. ;)

Especially the bootleg ones. Who can wait. . .

People who think stealing is wrong? People with a conscience?

I've been following the ratings of the 'Lost' repeats this summer over at fredfa's 'Hot Topics' entertainment thread. They've been dismal, hovering around 2.0 (only a point higher than 'The One') and ranking below or near Spanish soap operas on Univision and Telemundo. Ratings were terrible for 'Lost' repeats this summer, so that's why 'Lost' repeats are MIA and unannounced!

That does not bode well at all! It sounds like the people who jumped ship during Season two due to the schedule have permanently given up on 'Lost'
If we lose a similar sized chunk of viewers this season then we are screwed.
I hope ABC promotes the hell out of Lost and the new improved schedule. We have to (at minimum) hold on to the current viewers.

People who think stealing is wrong? People with a conscience?

stealing a free TV show? I bet every single once of us is going to buy the DVD...downloading an episode so you can watch it now is hardly immoral or unconsciouable....lighten up mmmmkay?

Oh, and like Kate, she's a bit of a tomboy too:

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BTW, you can catch the lovely Nadine in "The Last Ride", a seriously capital "B" movie, on Universal HD this month, without the thick Hispanic accent she uses on "My Name Is Earl".

People who think stealing is wrong? People with a conscience?It's hard for me to buy that it's stealing when it doesn't exist. Stealing must involve taking something from someone as well as obtaining something.

If they put it on the shelf and I downloaded it instead, that's certainly stealing. But if they never put it on the shelf, I can't very well be taking it from them.

You can argue that if I wait long enough, it will become available. But how long? A week? A month? A year? A decade? A century? Until after I die?

If I could, I'd put a 6 month limit on any broadcast to be put out on purchasable media. If not, the copyright holder would lose a portion of their exclusive rights. Any money made by sales would still need to be shared with the original copyright holder, but they would not be allowed to prohibit (or just not produce it for) sales.

The Lost producers would then be encouraged to release it earlier, since at least the first half of the season would have to be out before the Summer.

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Sorry...perhaps you have to be an IMDB.com member in order to view...

BTW, you can catch the lovely Nadine in "The Last Ride", a seriously capital "B" movie, on Universal HD this month, without the thick Hispanic accent she uses on "My Name Is Earl".

Worth watching?

Worth watching?
I don't know, I only caught bits and pieces of it, I remember a scene with Nadine in a bed with just her underclothes on, the movie itself seems pretty bad. The thing that struck me was seeing her act and speak without the Hispanic accent, I'd never seen her in anything else.

It's a TV movie rated No. 10,715 at IMDB. :p

You can argue that if I wait long enough, it will become available. But how long? A week? A month? A year? A decade? A century? Until after I die?It's quite possible it will wind up on HD DVD or somesuch eventually, but as you said, who knows when that will happen exactly(?).

Sorry...perhaps you have to be an IMDB.com member in order to view...
I am and it doesn't work for me...
Perhaps they block links from other sites to other than their home page?

I actually think J Lo is very attractive but Catalina on Earl is smoking hot:

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Here's the pic from the above link.

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It's broadcast freely over the airwaves. we're allowed to record it as a digitally perfect copy. You can't steal it, it's given freely. The DVDs are and Itunes DL's are a service of convenience, plus the the DVDs have tons of extras worth buying (I certainly intend to)
I guess I must be a thief too, I recorded a bunch of season two via firewire, in HD no less!
I burned a few eps to dvd for my friend when he missed it.

It's broadcast freely over the airwaves. we're allowed to record it as a digitally perfect copy. You can't steal it, it's given freely. The DVDs are and Itunes DL's are a service of convenience, plus the the DVDs have tons of extras worth buying (I certainly intend to)
I guess I must be a thief too, I recorded a bunch of season two via firewire, in HD no less!
I burned a few eps to dvd for my friend when he missed it.
Yes, you're allowed to record it, for personal use. As soon as you distribute it, like posting it at a torrent site for download, you're violating the copyright and the copyrights owners have a right to sue you for damages. Considering that ABC et al is packaging and creating DVD sets of a show like Lost, those damages could be a very considerable amount of money as that illegal copy obtained from a download site would be cutting into sales of the DVD set. Sure, people do it all the time, but that doesn't make it legal.

That does not bode well at all! It sounds like the people who jumped ship during Season two due to the schedule have permanently given up on 'Lost.' If we lose a similar sized chunk of viewers this season then we are screwed. I hope ABC promotes the hell out of Lost and the new improved schedule. We have to (at minimum) hold on to the current viewers.

From Fredfa's Hot of the Press thread:

ABC Suffers Summer Slump
Fox Taps Up Ratings

MediaWeek.com August 7, 2006

The Big Four broadcast networks cumulatively are drawing 24.9 million viewers per night during the first nine weeks of the summer season, only 100,000 viewers less than last summer, but Fox is averaging 800,000 more viewers and ABC 800,000 less. And ABC—the ratings leader at this point among viewers 18-49 with a 2.3 last summer—is down 13 percent with a 2.0, while Fox is up 5 percent to a 2.3, according to Nielsen Media Research live ratings.

While broadcast execs and media buyers tend to agree that summer has little bearing on the fall, there is a belief that ABC, because of its audience shortfall compared to last summer, is missing its opportunity to promote its nine new fall shows, while Fox has a chance to capitalize on its new influx of viewers.

ABC is averaging 5.6 million viewers per night, compared to 6.4 million last summer, with CBS (7.4 mil., down 100,000), NBC (flat at 6.1 mil.) and Fox (5.8 mil., up 800,000) all posting better numbers.

With the 18-49 demo, Fox has five of the Top 10 highest rated shows this summer, followed by CBS, which has three of the Top 10 and NBC, which has two of the Top 10. ABC has no shows among the Top 10. Its top-rated show in the 18-49 demo this summer is the regular season’s Grey’s Anatomy, with a 2.3, far behind summer 18-49 demo leader Fox’s So You Think You Can Dance (3.7 on Wednesdays and 3.6 on Tuesdays). ABC has put on five new shows this summer and four have already been pulled. A fifth, One Ocean View, produced an anemic 1.4 rating in the 18-49 demo in its premiere episode last week.

ABC’s other two hot shows this past season, Lost and Desperate Housewives, are averaging a 1.1 and a 1.6 in the 18-49 demo respectively this summer, down 52 percent and 27 percent, respectively, from last summer.

Jeff Bader, executive vp of scheduling at ABC, noted that ratings alone can be deceiving. He said while the network’s 18-49 rating is down, along with total viewers, the network has reached 51 million unique viewers this summer in the 18-49, more than any of the other networks. “We don’t worry about total viewers, we are more concerned with 18-49 viewers,” he said.

I can't tell from your post Fredfa's article, does this mean Lost is doing OK?
I guess there is no way to tell what I'm looking for, basically I am hoping the wayward sheep come back to the flock so to speak. I was hoping there might be some indication that Season 2 defectors (for lack of a better term) would give Lost another shot if they showed all the S2 episodes, in order, with double episodes (a very satisfying way to watch IMHO). Then hopefully jump back on board when Season 3 starts, having been informed of the improved scheduling.
Since ABC has yanked the accelerated summer rerun plan, that pretty much blows that hope out of the water.

Lost only needs its regulars to tune back in come fall to continue its mega-hit status. 24 flopped with summer reruns also.

cavalierwt, the ratings during network summer repeats are always very low. Good outdoor weather, a ton of repeats and crappy original programming -mostly reality shows- equals low ratings and the networks are fine with that. But this summer, even expecting ratings to be low, the networks have managed to attract even fewer viewers than their already-low expectations. ABC knew it would get low ratings for repeats of 'Lost' this summer but the ratings have been much, much lower than they expected. Compared with the summer repeats of 'Lost' a year ago this summer's 'Lost' repeats are down 52% (or half!) from what they got a year ago for viewers 18-49 (and a comparable amount for overall viewers). When ABC sold commercial time for the 'Lost' summer repeats it based the ad rates (what the network charges for :10/:30/:60 spots) on the ratings from a year ago, so the low ratings means ABC has underdelivered to advertisers and has to offer 'make goods' (i.e. free commercials to make-up the difference) on other shows. My schedule shows that back-to-back 'George Lopez' repeats and 'PrimeTime Medical Mysteries' have replaced 'Lost' from the Wednesday schedule, so apparently ABC needs higher-rated shows than 'Lost' to pay back advertisers.

How does this affect the Fall debut of 'Lost'? In the case of a friend that caught Season 1 on DVD last Spring and was eagerly watching the summer repeats to catch-up, it means probably 'Lost' will debut with as large amount of people that watched the season 2 finale. This number was much smaller than the number of viewers that watched the season 2 premiere and season 1, but it's still big-enough and demographically-solid enough to be considered huge. 'Lost' is very unfriendly to new viewers (which is why I don't watch it) and not allowing this summer repeats to end won't help those of us not willing to buy the DVD Box Sets. Then again, both '24' and 'Lost' prove that just because summer repeats get low ratings the DVD sales won't make-up for these shows' lack of replayability. :(

The good news is... given the recent spike in fuel costs... pretty soon the only thing the masses can afford for entertainment is to watch the "boob tube!" :D

'Lost' is very unfriendly to new viewers (which is why I don't watch it) and not allowing this summer repeats to end won't help those of us not willing to buy the DVD Box Sets. Then again, both '24' and 'Lost' prove that just because summer repeats get low ratings the DVD sales won't make-up for these shows' lack of replayability. :(

There are so many DVD sets of LOST in circulation now that you can probably borrow a set of S-1 from a friend. Now, as for S-2, you'll just have to "suck it up" and buy that one to get caught up by the start of S-3. Bad, shortsighted policy by ABC, but we've discussed that before. At least there's a lot of "value-added" features on the DVD sets.

At any rate, the show is so good, you'll be glad you did. :)

There are so many DVD sets of LOST in circulation now that you can probably borrow a set of S-1 from a friend.

At any rate, the show is so good, you'll be glad you did. :)

Actually I have no intention of ever watching 'Lost' at all. I just follow it on the news and internet websites so I can get what the jokes/parodies on other shows mean. From the moment I heard the premise and saw preview clips two years ago I knew the only way the producers could keep this concept going for years was to yank the chains of viewers by revealing little bits of info one episode at a time. Sorry, I've been through this grinding exercise in frustration with 'The X-Files' and I'm currently going through it on Sci-Fi's 'Battlestar Galactica' (best show on TV, IMHO :) ). No way am I wasting my time letting JJ Abrams & Co. keep pulling plot twists out of their collective asses in order for their baby to (somehow) reach 100 episodes. No offense, but 'Lost' isn't my idea of a good time.

My friend/co-worker (the guy that caught S1 on DVD and was watching the summer repeats of S2 to catch-up on S3) actually started watching it because he knew nothing about it and I told him he'd be the right kind of person to enjoy a show with an evolving premise. He is the type of guy that takes weeks/months to get through a TV show on DVD ('Buck Rogers,' 'Sliders,' etc.) but when he got the 'Lost' S1 Box Set he and his wife went through the whole season in just five days. When I pointed out for him a few months back that ABC was re-running S2 on Wednesdays this summer he flipped for joy. Now he's disappointed ABC isn't showing the show anymore but he still can't stop talking about 'Lost' this, 'Lost' that. Since I already know what happened on S2 I have to bite my tongue not to spoil for my friend what happens in the last 12-14 episodes of S2. The poor guy still thinks there's only one hatch (the one from the end of S1) on the island! :D

I don't know, I only caught bits and pieces of it, I remember a scene with Nadine in a bed with just her underclothes on, the movie itself seems pretty bad. The thing that struck me was seeing her act and speak without the Hispanic accent, I'd never seen her in anything else.

It's a TV movie rated No. 10,715 at IMDB. :p

Sounds like it might be worth DVRing. :)

I am and it doesn't work for me...
Perhaps they block links from other sites to other than their home page?

Probably so.

Thanks to Keenan for uploading that pic, but it's the other one I linked to that's special.

dad1153 - It's interesting that you bring up BSG as a similar show to Lost in its "stringing you along" philosophy. I'm only halfway through S1 on BSG right now and didn't get that impression so thanks for the headsup.

However, I can't compare BSG with Lost in watchability, at least for me. The acting, dialogue, and writing on Lost is far superior to what I've seen so far on BSG. It's not even close.

Maybe BSG will get better though.

IMO... while BSG is good, Lost is better. ;) It would also be nice to see a Sci Fi HD channel one of these days. :rolleyes:

It would also be nice to see a Sci Fi HD channel one of these days. :rolleyes:

Yep, that seems to be a complete no-brainer.

IMO... while BSG is good, Lost is better. ;) It would also be nice to see a Sci Fi HD channel one of these days. :rolleyes:
Absolutely, I'm still salivating over seeing Stargate: Atlantis in HD from The Movie Network on Star Choice, simply put, it looks fantastic---literally puts the SciFi PQ at about a step above internet streaming video. Unbelievable difference. It's one of those you'd have to see it to believe it, it's that much better.

To be more clear, the image quality was so good is was easy to imagine I might have been watching HD-DVD, no video noise and perfect color and detail.

Probably so.

Thanks to Keenan for uploading that pic, but it's the other one I linked to that's special.
Where she's throwing the baseball? Or was there another link I missed?

BSG and Lost are the two best dramas on tv, IMHO - so I think it's an interesting comparison.

BSG has top notch acting, delves deep into character development and motivation, and has plenty of topical themes (religion, terrorism, what it means to be human etc.). Add in tense drama and a great unraveling mystery (what the heck are the Cylons up to?), and you've got one of the most involving and riviting shows in years - of any genre.

If I had to choose between the two (must be a gun to my head), I'd have to go with Lost, though. Lost has much of what BSG has above, but the mystery and mythology of the island is so intriguing and facinating, it gets my nod. I also like the flashbacks as a character development tool and all the plot twists they throw at you.

I feel lucky to have 2 such great serial dramas that I look forward to every week. Now if only I could get BSG in HD...

Where she's throwing the baseball? Or was there another link I missed?

Yeah, that was the one. It was a nice full-length shot of her in jeans.

Now if only I could get BSG in HD...

I'm assuming you don't have Universal-HD in your area?

As for the comparison...aside from quality of writing/acting/FX...BSG is just not as intriguing as Lost for me. The mystery of the Cylons motives is not nearly as interesting as the mythology of the island. And, the Lost characters are much more appealing to me than those on BSG. However, my dislike for the Starbuck character is admittedly clouding that somewhat. I really like both Adamas and the President so far. The biggest difference I'd say is that Lost has a larger cast of interesting characters (14+), whereas BSG has half that at most.

The biggest difference I'd say is that Lost has a larger cast of interesting characters (14+), whereas BSG has half that at most.

Half? You mean there are 7 interesting characters? Bollocks...total bollocks...I'd gladly trade two Starbucks for Michael and Anna Lucia anyday (by far the two most annoying people on TV)...Starbuck is so mental and twisted, I love it...she's hurt and still strong. She's by far one of the most interesting people on BSG...

And to say the acting and directing isn't as good as Lost? I only direct you to the recent Peabody Award win for BSG and lackluster Emmy noms for Lost.

But don't get me wrong, I love Lost and I love BSG, but I love them equally. They are both so different and yet people, for some reason or another, need to make comparisons. You just can't compare to great shows as they are totally different.

BSG and Lost are the two best dramas on tv, IMHO - so I think it's an interesting comparison.

BSG has top notch acting, delves deep into character development and motivation, and has plenty of topical themes (religion, terrorism, what it means to be human etc.). Add in tense drama and a great unraveling mystery (what the heck are the Cylons up to?), and you've got one of the most involving and riviting shows in years - of any genre.

If I had to choose between the two (must be a gun to my head), I'd have to go with Lost, though. Lost has much of what BSG has above, but the mystery and mythology of the island is so intriguing and facinating, it gets my nod. I also like the flashbacks as a character development tool and all the plot twists they throw at you.

I feel lucky to have 2 such great serial dramas that I look forward to every week. Now if only I could get BSG in HD...Switching gears some... don't forget about HBO's "Deadwood." To put it mildly... the language is "colorful," but the prose is quite eloquent... almost melodic.

Half? You mean there are 7 interesting characters? Bollocks...total bollocks...I'd gladly trade two Starbucks for Michael and Anna Lucia anyday (by far the two most annoying people on TV)...Starbuck is so mental and twisted, I love it...she's hurt and still strong. She's by far one of the most interesting people on BSG...

I was actually being generous with the "half" comment, it's probably more like a "third." That third being both Adamas, the Prez, and maybe Chief or Gaius.

Starbuck is horrible. Poor actress and painful to look at. Not her fault, but she's also written as some kind of supersoldier. Best pilot? Check. Best Sharpshooter? Check. Best recon Marine? Check. Best freakin', gimme-a-break prisoner-interrogator? Check. I fully expect her to take over for Gaius and develop a cylon-detector in her spare time.

Now, I've seen where the producers somehow tried to explain this problem by saying that the $$ didn't allow for a different character to come in and do all those roles, so they just landed them in Starbuck's lap. That's a valid excuse, but it's certainly not a testament to the quality of the series. Quite the contrary, it's a flaw. One that, so far, has really gotten on my nerves.

And to say the acting and directing isn't as good as Lost? I only direct you to the recent Peabody Award win for BSG and lackluster Emmy noms for Lost.


BSG is amateurish compared to Lost. Perhaps it's the budget, perhaps it's the quality of the writers/actors that can be had for that budget, I dunno.

Ah well, you can't argue opinion.

Yeah, that was the one. It was a nice full-length shot of her in jeans.
That one's posted in the thread, are some saying they can't see it..?

Starbuck is horrible. Poor actress and painful to look at. Not her fault, but she's also written as some kind of supersoldier. Best pilot? Check. Best Sharpshooter? Check. Best recon Marine? Check. Best freakin', gimme-a-break prisoner-interrogator? Check. I fully expect her to take over for Gaius and develop a cylon-detector in her spare time.


That's an opinion not many of the show's fans share, as we've discussed before. The "painful to look at" comment is a real head scratcher. Katee Sackoff is a very pretty girl by anybody's definition of the term, and the fact that she's not the typical pencil-thin anorexic makes her far more believable as the formidable warrior she portrays. She's also a terrific actress, certainly at least the equal of any female on LOST (Evangeline Lilly? Emilie de Ravin? Are you kidding me??), and has to literally carry her show from time to time. She's wonderful, and I'd say that even if she wasn't my girlfriend. :p

That one's posted in the thread, are some saying they can't see it..?

I dunno, I just assumed not if he wasn't able to see/access the other link. No biggie, thanks anyway.

That's an opinion not many of the show's fans share, as we've discussed before. The "painful to look at" comment is a real head scratcher. Katee Sackoff is a very pretty girl by anybody's definition of the term, and the fact that she's not the typical pencil-thin anorexic makes her far more believable as the formidable warrior she portrays. She's also a terrific actress, certainly at least the equal of any female on LOST (Evangeline Lilly? Emilie de Ravin? Are you kidding me??), and has to literally carry her show from time to time. She's wonderful, and I'd say that even if she wasn't my girlfriend. :p

Archi - Was it you and I that had this conversation before? If so, you'll remember that I wasn't referring to her bod in the "painful to look at" category, but her dogface instead. :)

Archi - Was it you and I that had this conversation before? If so, you'll remember that I wasn't referring to her bod in the "painful to look at" category, but her dogface instead. :)
Based on the role she plays, Starbuck seems the sort you'd go 4-wheeling and drink beer with and then let her take charge in the bedroom that night.. :p :D

Archi - Was it you and I that had this conversation before? If so, you'll remember that I wasn't referring to her bod in the "painful to look at" category, but her dogface instead. :)

Yeah, now that you mention it, I think it was.... ;) All I can say, if she's got a "dogface", then where do I sign up for canine reassignment surgery so that we can howl at the moon together! (I'm just a hopeless romantic that way....)

Based on the role she plays, Starbuck seems the sort you'd go 4-wheeling and drink beer with and then let her take charge in the bedroom that night.. :p :D

Yeah, in keeping with her role, she'd be the best in 4 wheeling, the best beer drinker, and the best in the bedroom as well. Hey look, I found something positive to say about her. :)

Yeah, now that you mention it, I think it was.... ;) All I can say, if she's got a "dogface", then where do I sign up for canine reassignment surgery so that we can howl at the moon together! (I'm just a hopeless romantic that way....)

Either that or it's time to get the eyewear prescription checked. ;)

Look at that smile... she's so cute!

Woof!

Woof!

That goes double for me!

My friend/co-worker (the guy that caught S1 on DVD and was watching the summer repeats of S2 to catch-up on S3) actually started watching it because he knew nothing about it and I told him he'd be the right kind of person to enjoy a show with an evolving premise. He is the type of guy that takes weeks/months to get through a TV show on DVD ('Buck Rogers,' 'Sliders,' etc.) but when he got the 'Lost' S1 Box Set he and his wife went through the whole season in just five days. When I pointed out for him a few months back that ABC was re-running S2 on Wednesdays this summer he flipped for joy. Now he's disappointed ABC isn't showing the show anymore but he still can't stop talking about 'Lost' this, 'Lost' that. Since I already know what happened on S2 I have to bite my tongue not to spoil for my friend what happens in the last 12-14 episodes of S2. The poor guy still thinks there's only one hatch (the one from the end of S1) on the island! :D

That's exactly what made me mad at ABC for yanking the repeats. Lost is a very complicated serial, a new viewer needs to see *all* the previous episodes to appreciate the show. I was very happy to see ABC start doing back to back reruns of S2, in fact I was hoping they would do them twice: back to back once a week earlier in the summer, then hammer them out again at the end. Try to gather up everyone they possibly can to hit S3 at a full run.
That other show, Lopez, it's a one-off, it doesn't require weekly viewing, and frankly I don't think even the wildest optimist would consider it as good an investment as 'Lost' is.

Look at that smile... she's so cute!While Katee isn't drop-dead-Ms. America-beatiful, ugly she's not.

That other show, Lopez, it's a one-off, it doesn't require weekly viewing, and frankly I don't think even the wildest optimist would consider it as good an investment as 'Lost' is.

While Katee isn't drop-dead-Ms. America-beatiful, ugly she's not.


And that's precisely why 'Lopez' is likely to get more viewers (however insignificant the upswing) than 'Lost': because people tuning into 'Lost' without knowing anything about it (like me) have no clue who or what is going on and keep on channel surfing. A dumb and predictable sitcom like 'Lopez' (and 'According to Jim' replacing 'The One' this Tuesday) can be taken as is and doesn't require previous or post-viewing committment. Bottom line: not enough hardcore regular viewers of 'Lost' (like almost everyone in this forum) and not enough new converts (like my friend/co-worker) tuned in during the summer to make the repeats profitable for ABC. 'Lost' makes its money on first-run shows and on DVD.

And lay off my girl Katie Sackoff! She rocks as Starbuck battling inner demons and kicking all kinds of ass that would shatter to pieces pretty chicks on 'Lost'. I'll take 'BSG's' dark, gritty and intellectual exploration of religion, philosophy, mankind's role in the universe and survival over a sci-fi 'Gilligan's Island' remake with a cast of GQ models that don't seem to lose any weight or suffer the ill-effects of the weather on a desert island. 'BSG' all the way baby! :D

She's wonderful, and I'd say that even if she wasn't my girlfriend. :p

haha...nice

Lets see...more intriquing and entertaining characters on BSG: Hmmmm right off the bat you're missing Number 6...she is by far the most entertaining character on the show....how can you not love Tracia Hefler...and not to follow up with another cylon, but Sharon (Boomer) is also awesome...want two more? How about poor old Billy? or Dualla? Both great actors...I don't think there are any flaws in the cast or the direciton or the writing. I think its so well put together for their limited budget, that had they had the budget Lost had, it would be like watching a movie every week. Its just THAT good.

And lay off my girl Katie Sackoff!Umm.....that was a 'thumbs-up' for Ms. Sackoff.

Somebody just bumped up the BSG thread - lets move this discussion over there and save the many pointless emails from getting to Lost fans subbing to this thread.

C'mon guys - lose the BSG spoilers in this thread. I just started watching it on DVD, didn't expect spoilers in this thread!

Ack, I've just been spoilerized on BSG while reading the Lost thread. Who'd a thunk it.

Now, I just gotta remember which one is Billy. :)

Sorry guys...

You could go back and add the tags.

Thanks Lax, no big deal. Can't expect others to be living in the past with me.

Thanks Lax, no big deal. Can't expect others to be living in the past with me.

Yep, same here. No biggie.

C'mon guys - lose the BSG spoilers in this thread. I just started watching it on DVD, didn't expect spoilers in this thread!
Well, I hope no one here starts discussing Ozzie and Harriet. I haven’t seen every episode and I don’t want it to be ruined by some spoiler. :p

Ricky goes out of his way to get David in trouble, but it backfires. Ozzie thinks that David has just invented the Fountain of Youth. :)

Now if we could just get Ozzie, Harriet and Ricky back into the land of the living, we could carry on......

Ricky's dead :p

Whoops, didn't read your whole post there Bobby... :D

I still think Katee's a cutie (not a spoiler). Oh, we've moved on haven't we? How much longer 'till LOST comes back? :D

I still think Katee's a cutie (not a spoiler).

Woof!

Call her a dog one more time and I'll tell the mods : (

I know you guys are going to say

"What!! you never watched Lost?"

We'll I have not. I am thinking about watching the new season but I was wondering If I would be missing a lot since I did not see the first two seasons.

I only watched the pilot episodes and back then I did not have an HDDVR so I could not continue watching at their schedule. Now I have an HDDVR.

So is it worth it to start watching at season 3?

I know you guys are going to say

"What!! you never watched Lost?"

We'll I have not. I am thinking about watching the new season but I was wondering If I would be missing a lot since I did not see the first two seasons.

I only watched the pilot episodes and back then I did not have an HDDVR so I could not continue watching at their schedule. Now I have an HDDVR.

So is it worth it to start watching at season 3?

You are going to have a very difficult time understanding what is going on. The story arc is dense and complicated, and mysterious. Plus, there were so many good moments of television in the first two seasons (and some great ones as well--like Locke's first background story, season 2 premier opening shot, etc.)

Frankly, I suggest you get the Season 1 and 2 DVDs (when does Season 2 come out?) and watch them all before watching the third season. Most of the fun of watching Lost has been the unfolding of the mystery--even if some consider the pacing to be a little plodding at times. It's a weird show to figure out--some stories rocket the mythology ahead, while others are quite introspective and character-driven. It's maddening sometimes, but the best hour on tv in a long time...

OK, no more spoiler tags - we're going to get into the season and people are going to think tagged spoilers are OK.

Then again, we have a month to kill and haven't discussed what constitutes a spoiler in a while......... ;)

There you go, that ought to burn up some bandwidth... :p

I know you guys are going to say

"What!! you never watched Lost?"

We'll I have not. I am thinking about watching the new season but I was wondering If I would be missing a lot since I did not see the first two seasons.

I only watched the pilot episodes and back then I did not have an HDDVR so I could not continue watching at their schedule. Now I have an HDDVR.

So is it worth it to start watching at season 3?


My recommendation would be to set the DVR to record all new eps(and stay away from this thread) and then get through Season 1 and 2 on DVD as soon as possible, if you don't, I'll bet you'll regret it.

You can get decent prices on season 1 dvds on half/ebay/amazon. Season 2 comes out 9/5/06, I believe. I wouldn't 'jump in' without watching the prior seasons.

I just had an unnerving thought. What if the producers in an effort to increase viewership break into the first block of 6 episodes (or some number of them) with flashbacks of prior season scenes? You all are right that it doesn't make a lot of sense to jump right in at S 3 without any background. The few who have heard the hype from S 1&2 viewers and figure they might get their feet wet by starting to view Lost in S 3, will quickly be way over their heads and likely tune out - unless the show brings them up to speed somehow. And that would be patently unfair to us loyalists.

It's got to be a real dilemma for the producers to figure out a way to increase the viewer base when presenting a serial drama such as Lost. The "hooked" stay hooked but what hooks a newbie?

C'mon guys - lose the BSG spoilers in this thread. I just started watching it on DVD, didn't expect spoilers in this thread!

I've got it! How 'bout we lose BSG totally from this thread?!!!

I've got it! How 'bout we lose BSG totally from this thread?!!!

Good idea. I wouldn't want the good name and reputation of 'BSG' soiled by comparisons with 'Lost'! ;)

All I know is, like Alias, the begining of the end starts when the producers are forced by the network to make the show more user-friendly...(ala Alias Season 4)...converting from series to episodic and everything goes to hell! Thats when I'll stop watching and wait for the DVDs...like I should have done with Alias...

All I know is, like Alias, the begining of the end starts when the producers are forced by the network to make the show more user-friendly...(ala Alias Season 4)...converting from series to episodic and everything goes to hell! Thats when I'll stop watching and wait for the DVDs...like I should have done with Alias...

What leads you to believe this is the way LOST is going?

Then again, we have a month to kill and haven't discussed what constitutes a spoiler in a while......... ;)

Yeah, but shouldn't you wait for Quino to come back before you do that? Otherwise you'll just have to start over yet again. ;)

What leads you to believe this is the way LOST is going?


As of right now...nothing...but Alias was a huge smash hit, and it was JJ's project and it made a ton of money for the network...Lost is also a smash hit and a big money maker for the network...Hopefully it won't fall off the wagon like Alias did near the end of Season 3 and the network will have no reason to try to rework like they did with Alias...I'm just saying, there are some similiarties.