Originally posted by PJO1966
When she was giving him hell at the end my Partner said "he's probably getting off on this." 'cept I don't think the type of pain Bree has in mind is going to "hurt so good".

My local ABC station is down, I need help.

Anyone capturing tonight's episode of "Desperate Housewives" and converting it to divx or mpeg-4 format, please email me at les94111@yahoo.com

I am willing to pay for your trouble and time.

Thx

Originally posted by eknoo
My local ABC station is down, I need help.

Anyone capturing tonight's episode of "Desperate Housewives" and converting it to divx or mpeg-4 format, please email me at les94111@yahoo.com

I am willing to pay for your trouble and time.

Thx

Probably not a statement you want to make on these boards.

If you are into ********** at all the eps for any TV show are usually posted online within a few hours of being aired. Or so I'm told :-)

Yes, you can find the ********** file easily. It's just a big download so you need a fast internet connection.

Originally posted by aaronwt
Yes, you can find the ********** file easily. It's just a big download so you need a fast internet connection.
Where can you find it?

Originally posted by cdharris
Where can you find it?
Also something that will probably not go over well on these boards. You might want to keep this in private email.

Originally posted by cdharris
Where can you find it?

1) www.google.com
2) **********

Is Desperate Housewives in DD5.1?? Can't find any info on their website, only that "most" of their primetime shows use DD5.1.

Thanks.

Originally posted by blurredvision
Is Desperate Housewives in DD5.1?? Can't find any info on their website, only that "most" of their primetime shows use DD5.1.

Thanks.

Yes its in DD5.1 - the rear surround action is quite good in the outdoor neighborhood scenes, I've turned around hearing birds chirping - its very realistic!

Originally posted by Joxer
Yes its in DD5.1 - the rear surround action is quite good in the outdoor neighborhood scenes, I've turned around hearing birds chirping - its very realistic!
Kinda funny that I just came to check this thread during a commercial, because I was not getting DD5.1. But as I opened this thread, I heard it kick on. But it seems to have gone back out now, so I'm not sure what's going on.

Did anyone else have a problem with the dialogue (center channel) disappearing? It came back from commercial and I could hear the background music, and it was cutting to different people and I assumed there was no dialogue, but flipped over to the SD channel just to be sure and I was missing the dialogue. I watch OTA in Atlanta, by the way.

Originally posted by danc8379
Did anyone else have a problem with the dialogue (center channel) disappearing? It came back from commercial and I could hear the background music, and it was cutting to different people and I assumed there was no dialogue, but flipped over to the SD channel just to be sure and I was missing the dialogue. I watch OTA in Atlanta, by the way.

Probably because your local station didn't pass the DD5.1 feed. This happens to our local CBS during CSI's. You can turn it up real loud and the people sound like they are way down in a tunnel.

My audio dropped out just as the narrator was summarizing the decision Lynette and her husband made about the nanny. Anybody remember it? Thanks.....

Originally posted by hibricc
My audio dropped out just as the narrator was summarizing the decision Lynette and her husband made about the nanny. Anybody remember it? Thanks.....

Nothing really. All I remember about it was she was calling asking for an ugly nanny.

Last night was pretty good. I wonder how the feds are supposed to find the ring and bracelet in Mike's drawer? Are they going to search each house?

Unless the guy drops hints to the cops that lead them to search the guy's place.

However, I thought Mike was a cop or a fed or something investigating something there anyway...

Originally posted by cyberbri
Unless the guy drops hints to the cops that lead them to search the guy's place.

However, I thought Mike was a cop or a fed or something investigating something there anyway...

I believe he is a private investigator. Anyway, I'm getting tired of Teri Hatcher's dating plot with the Mike guy. They are always all over each other. I mean, how long has this guy been living on the block and she is already saying that she loves him and they are always all over each other. C'mon, give me a break. They've know each other for 4 months and she is saying I love you. The writers need to slow down this storyline b/c it is moving too fast. A woman who tells a guy that she loves him after knowing him for 4 months is pyscho where I come from. But then again, that's just me and I'm not writing the story!

Although, he said it first...

Some people take years to "realize" they're in love. Some people take a few days, or a few minutes...

Originally posted by cyberbri
[B Some people take a few days, or a few minutes... [/B]

I call that, lust, not love..:p

So, you don't believe in love at first sight, huh? ;)

Originally posted by hibricc
My audio dropped out just as the narrator was summarizing the decision Lynette and her husband made about the nanny. Anybody remember it? Thanks.....

The husband said that if he ever became attracted to the nanny, he would get rid of her.

He did. He did. Too bad.

Originally posted by cyberbri
So, you don't believe in love at first sight, huh? ;)

Only in fairy tales and movies...oh, and TV as well..:D

Originally posted by wjbjr
The husband said that if he ever became attracted to the nanny, he would get rid of her.

He did. He did. Too bad.

Yea, that sucks. I was hoping to be able to see more of the nanny. ;)

Originally posted by gpflepsen
Yea, that sucks. I was hoping to be able to see more of the nanny. ;)

That was the problem. He had seen ~all~ of the nanny. You can see more of her if and when "The Practice" is in syndication. She was the office person.

I wonder if any of you guys had a nanny like that in your home if your wife would let her stay if you saw her naked? The was looking at her cleavage while they were at the table. He could have seen any woman's cleavage as he walked down the street. I just don't understand why they would get rid of the nanny so quick, in terms of story development.

Originally posted by AFH
I wonder if any of you guys had a nanny like that in your home if your wife would let her stay if you saw her naked? The was looking at her cleavage while they were at the table. He could have seen any woman's cleavage as he walked down the street. I just don't understand why they would get rid of the nanny so quick, in terms of story development.

My wife had a problem when she found me showering with our nanny. I couldn't understand her angst. Just wanted to make her feel like one of the family you know? She was a damn good nanny though, so we let it pass. :D ;)

You can't control what you see on the street (heck, look at the neighbor ladies!!! ;) ), but you can control who you have in your house 24 hours a day (I didn't know she "lived" there until she was up during the middle of the night that time).

>>Did anyone else have a problem with the dialogue (center channel) disappearing?

Houston OTA had the same problem for 14 minutes -- but I also had a SPLIT SCREEN with the left and right halves reversed! How does THAT happen?!? Had the same split screen (but audio okay) on Boston Legal.

Originally posted by sangs
My wife had a problem when she found me showering with our nanny. I couldn't understand her angst. Just wanted to make her feel like one of the family you know? She was a damn good nanny though, so we let it pass. :D ;) That's too bad sangs...sometimes wives get so worked up over the most innocent little actions.

I think Tom(?) violated the same cleavage rule George Costanza did on Seinfeld. "Looking at cleavage is like looking at the sun -- ya don't stare at it! It's too risky. You get a sense of it and then you look away."

Houston OTA had the same problem for 14 minutes -- but I also had a SPLIT SCREEN with the left and right halves reversed! How does THAT happen?!?

I am from Cypress (right outside of Houston) and I had the exact same problem.

Originally posted by keenan
I call that, lust, not love..:p

I call it we just hit our 8 year anniversary. :D

Did anyone notice the HD commercials last night during Desperate Housewives? This is the first time I've noticed any HD commercials during mainstream programming.

Originally posted by rp3
Did anyone notice the HD commercials last night during Desperate Housewives? This is the first time I've noticed any HD commercials during mainstream programming.

No I didn't see it but then again the local affil messed up the hd feed for about 15 minutes.

I FF through all the commercials....

Sure do like the show though...

Originally posted by rp3
Did anyone notice the HD commercials last night during Desperate Housewives? This is the first time I've noticed any HD commercials during mainstream programming.

Yep, they were nice. O2 optix (sp?) contact lens maker and a "stylish" ad from Target. Surprised me too.

DHW was a great show as always. First class writing, terrific use of innuendos, lots of interesting juxtapositions, impressive acting by the cast. Yes, it's not Masterpiece Theatre, but DHW is fabulous. And it's followed by Boston Legal - damn fine Sunday night lineup.

Bill

Just got to watch the last ep from DVR...what was up with the DJ at the school dance actually using vinyl albums? I haven't seen a DJ with "albums" in years.

Originally posted by rp3
Did anyone notice the HD commercials last night during Desperate Housewives? This is the first time I've noticed any HD commercials during mainstream programming.

Commercials? How 20th Century. ;)

Originally posted by fhall1
Just got to watch the last ep from DVR...what was up with the DJ at the school dance actually using vinyl albums? I haven't seen a DJ with "albums" in years. It's practically a requirement today. Without it, all a DJ can do is play music as recorded. I guess yours don't do Rap. I really don't listen to such music but I watch them play it on TV and in movies. There's always a couple of platters with the DJs often working them by hand.

Originally posted by greywolf
It's practically a requirement today. Without it, all a DJ can do is play music as recorded. I guess yours don't do Rap. I really don't listen to such music but I watch them play it on TV and in movies. There's always a couple of platters with the DJs often working them by hand. It wasn't rap...it was that "classic" Dust in The Wind by Kansas. I believe that is now available on CD ;)

I used to DJ about 10yrs ago in college, and yes, there were CDs then, but we bought everything on vinyl - much better for mixing/scratching, and just plain cooler-

L

Yeah, as if that guy doesn't have enough emotional baggage to carry around, he's under the delusion that "Dust in the Wind" is a classic.

Talk about a twisted backstory...

Originally posted by DroptheRemote
Yeah, as if that guy doesn't have enough emotional baggage to carry around, he's under the delusion that "Dust in the Wind" is a classic.

Talk about a twisted backstory...

:D :D

re-run tonight or new episode? I saw that the show airs at 10 and guessed it to be a re-run.

looks like a rerun. Original Air Date: Nov 28, 2004

The missus and I sure do like this series. And it really helps that ABC is giving us nice PQ to boot.

Desperate for HD
I am not really into this show, but just started watching for the HD content. It has some good story lines, funny situations, and some cute looking housewives. I agree PQ is great on this one. Maybe I'll be a new viewer. Plus I can catch up on the episodes, since a lot of re-runs are airing right now.

Originally posted by AFH
I believe he is a private investigator. Anyway, I'm getting tired of Teri Hatcher's dating plot with the Mike guy. They are always all over each other. I mean, how long has this guy been living on the block and she is already saying that she loves him and they are always all over each other. C'mon, give me a break. They've know each other for 4 months and she is saying I love you. The writers need to slow down this storyline b/c it is moving too fast. A woman who tells a guy that she loves him after knowing him for 4 months is pyscho where I come from. But then again, that's just me and I'm not writing the story!

Wait until they arrest him for murder...we'll see how she feels then :-)

Who is that Latin looking girl with black hair who left the poker game and climbed over the fence to see the yard boy, what is her name?

Originally posted by plasmamaniac
Who is that Latin looking girl with black hair who left the poker game and climbed over the fence to see the yard boy, what is her name?

Eva Longoria from Corpus Christi, Texas. She's supposedly dating Tony Parker of the San Antonio Spurs now....damn him!

Eva is one Hot Looking Babe, WOW!!!

Originally posted by plasmamaniac
Eva is one Hot Looking Babe, WOW!!!

http://abc.go.com/primetime/desperate/images/gallery/ep101/gallery.html?photo=7
http://abc.go.com/primetime/desperate/images/gallery/ep101/gallery.html?photo=16
http://abc.go.com/primetime/desperate/images/gallery/ep101/gallery.html?photo=19


Booya brother....Booya!

I think I accidentally had an orgasm while watching her and my wife got pissed but she is so Hot. I used to be in love with Teri Hatcher when she was in SuperMan but this woman blows her away. I don't like her hairstyle, I guess that's what seems to be different but she just doesn't appeal to me like she used to, but this Latin Lady is Very Hot!!!! So I guess Eva Longoria is Mexican descent, well she's one Hot Tamale. Sorry Teri but I am Fickle.

Originally posted by Iteki
Wait until they arrest him for murder...we'll see how she feels then :-)

She'll still love him! ;)

Originally posted by plasmamaniac
I think I accidentally had an orgasm while watching her and my wife got pissed but she is so Hot. I used to be in love with Teri Hatcher when she was in SuperMan but this woman blows her away. I don't like her hairstyle, I guess that's what seems to be different but she just doesn't appeal to me like she used to, but this Latin Lady is Very Hot!!!! So I guess Eva Longoria is Mexican descent, well she's one Hot Tamale. Sorry Teri but I am Fickle.

Teri still does it for me even though I wish she would stop going bra-less on the show b/c she has little ones. She recently said in a interview that she was glad that the directors have given her permission to go bra-less. If she had larger ones I wouldn't have a problem with it.

I don't know Eva Longoria's decent and she is hot, but man I tell ya, you can see plenty of good looking Eva types on Univision. Try watching those telenovellas (soap operas) on Univision and Telemundo. Those woman are hot and there bodies would put Eva's body to shame. Better yet, watch Sabado Gigante and look at the women that he has on the show. Those girls wear thongs and tops that show how much body they have. I don't know Spanish, but to enjoy those women you don't have to know Spanish. I do find the over-the-top antics of the telenovellas pretty funny and entertaining. They're worth a watch sometimes.

Also if you want to see more Eva types try living in the larger metro areas of Florida and you shouldn't have any problem finding them find they're all over the place.

Yes, I am a professional boob man and I always told my wife that if Teri had it in that department then she would be the perfect woman. Such a shame. But the face on this Eva is fantastic.

Originally posted by Iteki
Eva Longoria from Corpus Christi, Texas. She's supposedly dating Tony Parker of the San Antonio Spurs now....damn him!

I knew I read somewhere about 8 months ago that she was married to a actor on the soap Guiding Light. They meet when they both were actors on a soap on ABC. Well, after reading an article today about Eva, she is divorcing her husband. The article goes on to say that she was recently in Mexico doing a photo shoot and JC Chazse of NSync fame (Bye, Bye, Bye), was there with her on the set. She says that they're friends but others say that they're dating. I guess she is dating two guys at once b/c the article also goes on to say that she is dating Tony Parker. She was spotted in the Spurs locker room at the end of November with Tony Parker. I guess her new found fame is allowing to "get around" more. :D Tony dumped his longtime French girlfriend for him.

Originally posted by plasmamaniac
Yes, I am a professional boob man and I always told my wife that if she had it in that department then she would be the perfect woman. Such a shame. But the face on this Eva is fantastic, I could eat her in a New York Minute or for an hour if she wanted.

;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

It would be kind of hard to see that beautiful face from down there.

Not if the angle and the desire is right. I could make the effort.

Originally posted by plasmamaniac
Yes, I am a professional boob man and I always told my wife that if she had it in that department then she would be the perfect woman. Such a shame.

Then Marcia Cross (Bree) has to be your favorite housewife, as she has the nicest 'rack' by far (see post #227 of this thread), and in her 40's to boot! You go girl! Teri Hatcher was pretty impressive in that department in her younger day, especially for a size 2, but age has taken its toll on her (a bra is your friend, Teri). Nicollette Sheridan has implants (for shame!), and thus is ineligible for consideration.

And glad I wasn't around to collect any collateral damage when you told your wife about her "deficiencies"! :eek:

She was recently on the cover of FMH, Stuff, or one of those men's magazines...

No, my wife doesn't have deficiencies or I couldn't have married her because that is a very high priority but I knew my comment would be taken that way but I was referring to Teri. If she was a 36D when she was on SuperMan I would have been beside myself. As Lee Trevino the famous golfer once said "God doesn't give anyone everything. Some hit it a long way but can't putt. Some putt like God but can't hit the long ball."
It's not like I would kick her out of bed but that would have been the icing on the cake.
No, my wife will be showing off her 36D rack at Saint Maarteens in June where you can go topless, thank GOD or whoever for that.

Originally posted by archiguy
Then Marcia Cross (Bree) has to be your favorite housewife, as she has the nicest 'rack' by far (see post #227 of this thread), and in her 40's to boot! You go girl!

Yes, Marica by far is my fav. When she wore that all red bra and panty set I about fell over. She is hot!


Originally posted by archiguy
Teri Hatcher was pretty impressive in that department in her younger day, especially for a size 2, but age has taken its toll on her (a bra is your friend, Teri).

I guess Teri doesn't care that a bra can be her friend and that gravity does begin to hit when you turn 40. Women get some sag in the top and bottom if they don't workout. Teri, wear a bra honey!

There are great exercises for the breast area and my wife works on them religiously such as butterfly extentions etc.

Originally posted by plasmamaniac
There are great exercises for the breast area and my wife works on them religiously such as butterfly extentions etc.

You're a lucky man. Your wife understands the importance of having a tight top and bottom! Some women just let those things go and it's sag-city! Sad really seeing as though most of these women are in their late 40s and 50s and they can help to maintain the sag!

It's not luck. She's known since I married her that if she got fat or had sagging tatas I would be looking around. So from Day One she has taken care of what she eats and how she looks. In fact now she does it for herself probably more than me because it makes her feel good about herself. We have an exercise gym setup with music so why not take care of yourself.

From the San Jose Mercury News,

Posted on Mon, Jan. 31, 2005
By Charlie McCollum

Mercury News

UNIVERSAL CITY - After two weeks in another town, here are some odd notions, stray thoughts and weird observations from the Television Critics Association's semi-annual press tour:

The networks aren't the only ones taking a viewership hit from ABC's ``Desperate Housewives'' on Sunday nights. While HBO executives won't acknowledge it publicly, the premium cable channel has seen its audience shrink noticeably since ``Housewives'' made its debut last fall. ``Carnivale'' is really suffering right now directly opposite the ABC series, and ``Unscripted,'' the new HBO series that comes on at 10 p.m., is getting little love from viewers. With ``Sex and the City'' gone and ``The Sopranos'' on hiatus at least until early next year, the picture for HBO isn't pretty.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/entertainment/columnists/charlie_mccollum/10777463.htm?1c
MercuryNews.com | 01/31/2005 | Network, actress at odds over direction of `Joan of Arcadia'

Wow, 316 posts about these hot women and I don't see one mention of the nipple shot. Much better than last year's Superbowl, IMO.

--Darin

What nipple shot?

Darin, have you seen this Budweiser commercial about Janet Jackson? It is a riot, funny as hell and could be somewhat true.

Check it out. Here's the Link. http://www.budweiser.com/agecheck.asp?section=entertainment&subSection=tv_commercials&commSelect=1

Originally posted by plasmamaniac
It's not luck. She's known since I married her that if she got fat or had sagging tatas I would be looking around. No offense, but that really sounds superficial for a marriage.
I'd never tell my wife she needs to stay a trophy or I'm lookin' elsewhere ...I'd be on the couch watching HD alone.

Originally posted by keenan
While HBO executives won't acknowledge it publicly, the premium cable channel has seen its audience shrink noticeably since ``Housewives'' made its debut last fall. ``Carnivale'' is really suffering right now directly opposite the ABC series, and ``Unscripted,'' the new HBO series that comes on at 10 p.m., is getting little love from viewers. With ``Sex and the City'' gone and ``The Sopranos'' on hiatus at least until early next year, the picture for HBO isn't pretty.


I wouldn't weep for HBO; their "picture" is plenty pretty. They just sold syndication rights to The Sopranos to A&E for a cool $2.5 million per episode and, because they own it, they get all that cash. Can't imagine who'd want to watch the emasculated version those episodes will be, but no matter. HBO is immensely profitable; last year their gross profit exceeded one billion dollars - a first for any network.

And still they refuse to give us OAR on theatrical HD movies. Shameful.

Plasma George, it was meant as incentive and it has worked. She's glad that I made her conscious of it or she wouldn't be in the shape that she's in. My neighbor's wife just mentioned how depressed she is that she got fat and is trying all kinds of diets etc and told my wife how lucky she was that she still had a nice shape but it's not luck at all but hard work. My wife encourages me to work out too since we are going skiing in Park City, Utah in 3 weeks and need to get the legs in shape. I wouldn't have been married to her for 24 years if I didn't love her. She just needed encouragement and incentive to stay in shape, we all do.

Originally posted by archiguy
I wouldn't weep for HBO; their "picture" is plenty pretty. They just sold syndication rights to The Sopranos to A&E for a cool $2.5 million per episode and, because they own it, they get all that cash. Can't imagine who'd want to watch the emasculated version those episodes will be, but no matter. HBO is immensely profitable; last year their gross profit exceeded one billion dollars - a first for any network.

And still they refuse to give us OAR on theatrical HD movies. Shameful.

Oh, I agree, I posted it because it reflects the problem HBO is having with that time slot, and because HBO has claimed the lack of viewers for The Wire has put it's status for return in question, which IMO, is the best show on HBO. As far as the Sopranos, for me it's not the sort of show I would watch a second time, much less a censored version, great TV, but not for repeated viewings..how many times can watch them put Ralphie's head in the bowling ball bag, once you know what happens, how can anyone watch it again, but that's just me.

Is this series on every other week?

Originally posted by plasmamaniac
Is this series on every other week?

The way ABC show repeats you would think that the show was scheduled to come on every other week. It technically is a weekly show but you know how television is.

Do ya s'pose the Super Bowl had anything to do with the scheduling of DH this week? I'd think the target audience for both are the same, middle age males. :)

Originally posted by gpflepsen
Do ya s'pose the Super Bowl had anything to do with the scheduling of DH this week? I'd think the target audience for both are the same, middle age males. :)

It could have, but ABC or any other net knows better than to go head to head with the SB by airing a new episode of one of their most popular shows. It would be suicideeeeeee!

Originally posted by plasmamaniac
What nipple shot?
Has this really not gotten out? My sister-in-law was the one who noticed it and my brother showed it to me (I hadn't noticed when I watched the episode). It does take pausing and single stepping to really see well. I don't know the name of the episode, but I'll give people a clue that it was Marcia Cross's character. Some die hard fan should be able to find it from that. Maybe I shouldn't say anything because I don't think I have this episode on my TIVO and now they might not show it again. :)

I'll check out that budweiser commercial when I get on my other system.

Isn't the internet great. :)

Thanks,
Darin

Originally posted by darinp2
I don't know the name of the episode, but I'll give people a clue that it was Marcia Cross's character.

If you look a couple of pages back in this thread you can actually see it. It was a very little slip, barely noticable

Does anyone have contacts for reference for ABC HD Programming?

I have tried my local affiliate and Hearst Argyle, but without fail my affiliate continues to screw up flipping the switch for DH and Lost along with all other HD programming. I want ABC to know that we're not getting ABC HD programming and I want ABC to put some additional pressure on the local station and their parent corp who have a number of poor switchers to do their job.

Originally posted by Joseph S
Does anyone have contacts for reference for ABC HD Programming?

I have tried my local affiliate and Hearst Argyle, but without fail my affiliate continues to screw up flipping the switch for DH and Lost along with all other HD programming. I want ABC to know that we're not getting ABC HD programming and I want ABC to put some additional pressure on the local station and their parent corp who have a number of poor switchers to do their job.

No HD on WEWS in Cleveland tonight either.

HD 5.1 philly comcast here, not one problem all night.

just ended. boston legal on now, but the preview for next week??

Joseph:

Why don't you get a handful of people in your local thread to send emails every time they mess it up. Enough emails and phone calls will get someone to start paying attention.

Originally posted by archiguy
I wouldn't weep for HBO; their "picture" is plenty pretty. They just sold syndication rights to The Sopranos to A&E for a cool $2.5 million per episode and, because they own it, they get all that cash. Can't imagine who'd want to watch the emasculated version those episodes will be, but no matter. HBO is immensely profitable; last year their gross profit exceeded one billion dollars - a first for any network.

And still they refuse to give us OAR on theatrical HD movies. Shameful.

I heard A&E was going to show Sopranos un-edited in a late night time slot (in addition to an edited daytime or prime-time slot). Not sure if that's true or not. But they aren't subject to the same Federal Decency laws that non-cable networks are. Also HBO doesn't get all of the money for the syndication. It will be split between HBO Original Programming, Brad Grey Television and Chase Film.

BTW did you ever think that maybe their profit exceeded one billion dollars because they don't show all of their theatrical HD movies in OAR??? ;) (Flame retardant suit on...)

Anyone catch the "creative" audio dubbing during the funeral procession? I swear, Bree said "Gotta hand it to those CATHLOICS. They sure know how to morn."

Not exactly appropritate for last night, huh?

Originally posted by EricRobins
Not exactly appropritate for last night, huh?
Not really, but they had no way to know.

Was that what she originally said, or what was dubbed? If the latter, any lip-readers want to take a stab at what she orginally said?

Xesdeeni

I didn't remember Bree saying that, but then again wasn't paying a lot of attention to what she said, except when she yelled to keep the procession moving.

Originally posted by EricRobins
Anyone catch the "creative" audio dubbing during the funeral procession? I swear, Bree said "Gotta hand it to those CATHLOICS. They sure know how to morn."

Not exactly appropritate for last night, huh? That's what it looked liked. It was definitely a bad dub, but with the passing of the Pope, it definitely would not have been appropriate to leave it the way it originally was.

OK, did I miss something? Why the settlement in the death of Carlos' mother? Did the hospital really screw up? Or something else?

No supervision and a slippery floor led to her death.

Yes, although in typical DH fashion, the hospital administrator thought Gabrielle questions about what happened when Mom died were related to a possible negligence by the hospital, when in fact all she wanted to know was if Mom spilled the beans on her...:p

I wonder if someone can refresh my memory...my recall is a little hazy on the events immediately following the accident. Did Gabrielle previously retrieve the camera that her mother-in-law used to take the pics of her with her toy boy?

Or was the camera part of old gal's personal effects that she casually suggested the hospital just toss out?

Just wondering if those incriminating photos are likely to surface down the road...

She got the camera right after the accident.

Thanks

Originally posted by keenan
Yes, although in typical DH fashion, the hospital administrator thought Gabrielle questions about what happened when Mom died were related to a possible negligence by the hospital, when in fact all she wanted to know was if Mom spilled the beans on her...:p

...which Mom did with her last words. You just know that won't be the last we hear from this particular nurse (nurse's aide?). <sigh> more blackmail for poor Gabrielle.

Nurse in question had earphones on so it's unlikely she heard any of Mama's last words ...

Originally posted by jadziedzic
Nurse in question had earphones on so it's unlikely she heard any of Mama's last words ...

Exactly, Mama's last words are forever buried...

but.... what about the camera?

Originally posted by mjburton
but.... what about the camera?

I was going to say something about that...was there a camera in that stairwell?

Not with audio, probably.

Originally posted by cyberbri
Not with audio, probably.

But CSI:Wysteria Lane could probably figure out what she is saying.

Originally posted by mx6bfast
But CSI:Wysteria Lane could probably figure out what she is saying.

Yup, in fact Marlee Matlin's character would do the lip-reading..

Originally posted by keenan
Yup, in fact Marlee Matlin's character would do the lip-reading..

She is so freakin sexy!

Trouble on Wysteria Lane?

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20050405/D899FP3G1.html

After reading the article, click on the photo, notice how they billed Marcia Cross...

Incredible...maybe we could them all in a PPV mud wrestling match...:p

The cover of that mag sure looks nice, but you could see trouble from the success of this show coming from a mile a way. But those women sure look hot on the cover.

"although Cross and Huffman can't been seen when the cover is folded."

LOL

Teri ended up front & Center on the cover anyway. :D

Teri and Eva are in a class by themselves - the others should just accept it and move on.

Originally posted by CPanther95
"although Cross and Huffman can't been seen when the cover is folded."

LOL

Teri ended up front & Center on the cover anyway. :D

Teri and Eva are in a class by themselves - the others should just accept it and move on.

Teri was on the left-side of the cover and Maria and Nicollete were dead center. I'll take Teri's and Maria's body over Eva's any day. Plus they aren't too shabby in the looks department either. :)

Originally posted by AFH
Teri was on the left-side of the cover and Maria and Nicollete were dead center.

Nicolette was only dead center with the cover opened up - as it sits on news stands - Teri is right in the middle (head under the "TY" in Vanity Fair), Nicolette is on the right and Eva is down low. The other two don't even show up.

No surprise, but ABC today announced it had picked up Desperate Housewives (and Lost, Boston Legal and Alias) for the 2005-2006 season.

Originally posted by fredfa
No surprise, but ABC today announced it had picked up Desperate Housewives (and Lost, Boston Legal and Alias) for the 2005-2006 season.


Hmmm. I'm mildly surprised that Alias survived.

Originally posted by Mac The Knife
Hmmm. I'm mildly surprised that Alias survived.

Me too, can't help but think that the Abrams/Lost connection had something to do with it. IMO, Alias is a shell of it's former self.

"Alias" is 33rd in the season-to-date ratings, and although it is losing a chunk of its "Lost" lead-in ABC has more important problems.
But I suspect one more year will be enough for "Alias".
To me, this year's "Mission Impossible"-esque script writing (find a problem, rush around the world and solve it in 44 minutes) is becoming really tedious.

Originally posted by fredfa
To me, this year's "Mission Impossible"-esque script writing (find a problem, rush around the world and solve it in 44 minutes) is becoming really tedious.

I hear ya, but that is what the powers that be thought needed to happen in order to make the show appeal to a wider audience. I wonder what the ratings are from year to year. Is Alias up from this time last year or down. That'll show how much the change in format helped the ratings.

Originally posted by AFH
I hear ya, but that is what the powers that be thought needed to happen in order to make the show appeal to a wider audience. I wonder what the ratings are from year to year. Is Alias up from this time last year or down. That'll show how much the change in format helped the ratings.

The LOST lead-in gets most of the credit...

Let's keep to DH discussion in this thread.

I heard an interview with Teri Hatcher while I was doing something in another room and she was answering questions about the supposed cat fight over this cover. Personally, I think they make all that stuff up just to create additional "buzz" about shows. Makes for good copy I guess. There's no way the stars would allow them to write that kind of story (and headline) without their blessing if it were true, (it's a contracted shoot, not the Enquirer you know). They did the same thing with Sex and the City as I recall. All kinds of "stories" about how they didn't get along, but now that the show is over all you ever hear from interviews is how they all stay in touch and call/email each other all the time.

ron

Originally posted by R11
I heard an interview with Teri Hatcher while I was doing something in another room and she was answering questions about the supposed cat fight over this cover. Personally, I think they make all that stuff up just to create additional "buzz" about shows. Makes for good copy I guess. There's no way the stars would allow them to write that kind of story (and headline) without their blessing if it were true, (it's a contracted shoot, not the Enquirer you know). They did the same thing with Sex and the City as I recall. All kinds of "stories" about how they didn't get along, but now that the show is over all you ever hear from interviews is how they all stay in touch and call/email each other all the time.

ron

CP I meant to stay on topic, sorry! I think that part of the Vanity Fair story could be true, especially as it pertains to Eva Longoria. She has become a diva of sorts ever since she started to become recognized which took her many years to do. It appears to me that she is the one most likely getting caught up in the hype of the show, seeing as how certain things transpired between she and her ex-husband. She goes from being a barely recognized Soap star on a barely recognized Soap to a recognized Soap star on the most popular Soap.

That leads her to some brief nationwide status by appearing on one now defunct show on ABC. Now she is staring in one of the most popular shows in years, getting all of this pub b/c of her beauty and her role on the show, getting star treatment like she never got before and now she is taking on diva form. It was all bound to happen to someone like her is experiencing their first dose of full-blown stardom. The other actresses in one way or another have already experience what Eva is now experiencing so they are less likely to show their diva side on something as silly as a photo-shot.

I just hope that old Dr. Kimberly Shaw, err..... Marcia Cross didn't go wild. ;)

Eva Longoria is also at least a decade younger than the other women. I like Felicity Huffman myself. Eva is too young.

Originally posted by aaronwt
Eva Longoria is also at least a decade younger than the other women. I like Felicity Huffman myself. Eva is too young.

I like Teri Hatcher myself b/c she is the sexist of the older women. There's something about her that makes her appealing in a down to earth sort of way.

Originally posted by CPanther95
...

Let's keep to DH discussion in this thread.


Well, I think DH proves that you can have a show with tons of open plot lines and still have a big audience, so IMHO they didn't need to dumb down Alias.

[See I brought it back around to DH :D ]

Here's a good article about what transpired on the set according to the Vanity Fair writer that was their for the photo shoot.

Vanity Fair covers 'Housewives' feud (http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-desperate06.html)

Here's an excerpt: "She screamed [the publicist's] name and said, in essence, 'I want you to get over here and do your bleeping job ...' Then she launched into this profanity-laced tirade. Teri was most visibly upset and got very emotional and was tearing up and was on her cell phone seeking comfort from someone," Zeman reported.

I think that if this petty "I want to be a diva too" stuff continues ABC will have a hard time trying to keep the cast together.

Desperate Housewives Get Hot! (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,152569,00.html) Isn't there some kind of "B*" word we can use to describe the adolescent behavior of these spoiled actresses? Naturally this word(?), by all feminist accounts, is preferable to another that comes to mind... the first letter of which is next in the alphabet and taboo for any man to utter.;)

Originally posted by optivity
Desperate Housewives Get Hot! (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,152569,00.html) Isn't there some kind of "B*" word we can use to describe the adolescent behavior of these spoiled actresses? Naturally this word(?), by all feminist accounts, is preferable to another that comes to mind... the first letter of which is next in the alphabet and taboo for any man to utter.;)

You takin' about the A B C word? ;)

Originally posted by AFH
You takin' about the A B C word? ;) Who me???:confused:

I would NEVER use such a word nor allude to it...

I've been reminded occasionally, men are not to use that C word ever!!!:eek:

ab(my word)c(your word)def(another bad word)ghijklmn(can't use the n word either)opqurstuv.... I'm too exhausted to finish

Originally posted by optivity
Who me???:confused:

I would NEVER use such a word nor allude to it...

I've been reminded occasionally, men are not to use that C word ever!!!:eek:

ab(my word)c(your word)def(another bad word)ghijklmn(can't use the n word either)opqurstuv.... I'm too exhausted to finish

You forgot jklmnop(a word we all know and love)......oops, we shouldn't use that word a lot either. :eek:

Originally posted by aaronwt
Eva is too young. This is the main reason I stopped returning Eva's phonecalls ;) BTW...are you nuts? Eva is smokin' hot but I agree with Antonio...Teri Hatcher has that approachable and likable personality to go along with her stunning good looks. A killer combo for a schmuck like me.

Remember way, way back in the "good old" Disco:eek: days???

Eva was the one you could never approach while you might have taken a shot at Teri after the mandatory 2-drinks of courage were consumed.:D

Originally posted by optivity
Remember way, way back in the "good old" Disco:eek: days???

Eva was the one you could never approach while you might have taken a shot at Teri after the mandatory 2-drinks of courage were consumed.:D

Sounds like the same rules apply today! Nicollete is the one that you hook-up with at the club after buying her one drink. Teri would be considered more or less what we call a "slump-buster" (used when having trouble hooking-up with the other skanks who think that their *ish* doesn't stink). Eva is the one that we know will have to see what kind of car we're driving and the type of house that we have before she even lets us take her out on a date. And even then she won't give up the punani (P*). :)

Originally posted by aaronwt

Eva is too young.


She's only too young in the sense that she's not mature enough to appreciate a really hairy back, or a beer gut, or ear hair, or... any of the afflictions that come with old age. :D

Originally posted by optivity
Remember way, way back in the "good old" Disco:eek: days???

Eva was the one you could never approach while you might have taken a shot at Teri after the mandatory 2-drinks of courage were consumed.:D Trying to forget the disco days :eek: So you approach a girl like Teri and discover she has 2 kids from 2 different fathers, 2 or 3 TRO's, a drinking problem...do you walk away? Not if it is midnight ;)

Originally posted by tall1
Trying to forget the disco days :eek: So you approach a girl like Teri and discover she has 2 kids from 2 different fathers, 2 or 3 TRO's, a drinking problem...do you walk away? Not if it is midnight ;) It usually was about 2 AM before I reached that point... Originally posted by gpflepsen
She's only too young in the sense that she's not mature enough to appreciate a really hairy back, or a beer gut, or ear hair, or... any of the afflictions that come with old ageDude, what a "depressing" dose of reality... especially while I'm still fantasizing about this:

http://home.nycap.rr.com/nessus/eva.jpg

Originally posted by AFH
I like Teri Hatcher myself b/c she is the sexist of the older women. There's something about her that makes her appealing in a down to earth sort of way.

Well she's on her knees a lot....

I mean in every episode she's sneeking around....

What were you thinkin'....:D

Originally posted by optivity
It usually was about 2 AM before I reached that point... The bars close at 1am here ;) I'm diggin' the wardrobe malfunction on Eva ;)

Originally posted by tall1
The bars close at 1am here ;) I'm diggin' the wardrobe malfunction on Eva ;)

1AM? Man, try 3,4, 5 or even 6AM in the major cities in Florida and 2AM or 3AM where I now live. BTW, what wardrobe malfunction? I wanna see! :)

Originally posted by AFH
1AM? Man, try 3,4, 5 or even 6AM in the major cities in Florida and 2AM or 3AM where I now live. BTW, what wardrobe malfunction? I wanna see! :) Well they did close at 1am back in the day..I think it is 2:30am now. Check the picture of Eva that optivity posted above...her string bikini is unstrung.

Originally posted by tall1
Check the picture of Eva that optivity posted above...her string bikini is unstrung.

Ohh, very nice indeed! :o

Well, at least they are advancing the plot a little. Here's what we now know.

Mary Alice worked as a nurse under a different name before moving to Wisteria Lane.

The neighbor and most likely her sister ( Martha Huber) both knew her in that previous life.

She left with a baby named Dana who is now named Zach. (Probably wasn't her baby).

A PI came looking for the baby. That PI was most likely the woman the plumber is looking for.

Mary Alice and/or husband killed the PI, chopped her up and put her in the toy chest. They buried the chest under the pool.

So, the big question is, how long before Mrs. Huber's sister gets it for knowing too much. Or Edie because he thinks she saw the tape?

Dana could be a girl's name. Could Zach have undergone gender reassignment surgery?

How will Carlos react when he find's out the baby inside of Gabrielle is not his!

Originally posted by mx6bfast
How will Carlos react when he find's out the baby inside of Gabrielle is not his!

We don't know that yet, remember, Carlos has been messing with her BC pills...

Carlos is an insecure jerk, granted Gabby's past indiscretions would give him reason to be but he never knew about them. Her recent fidelity seems to be real and although her reason for not telling him about the settlement could be questioned he did react just as she thought he would when he did find out about it, he was going to blow it all so he wouldn't have to spend 8 mos in a Fed prison. His secrecy about the offshore account has backfired on him, now because of all that transpired, she is hell-bent on hurting him...

The perfect marriage eh? :D :p

Originally posted by keenan
We don't know that yet, remember, Carlos has been messing with her BC pills...

True, but as my teacher always told me, it only takes 1 time. She's been so lucky it's bound to backfire on her sometime.

Originally posted by mx6bfast
True, but as my teacher always told me, it only takes 1 time. She's been so lucky it's bound to backfire on her sometime.

From my personal experience, I can tell you that that is a fact...:D :p

Originally posted by keenan
We don't know that yet, remember, Carlos has been messing with her BC pills...

...

True, we don't know it as fact. But they sure threw out a heavy handed tease by saying that Gaby is pregnant while showing her and the boy (what is his name?) having sex.

The tease about Gaby possibly being pregnant occured at the beginning of the show when we saw Carlos messing with the BC pills. The way that Gaby acts as a wife is a good indicator as to why Carlos is insecure when it comes to Gaby. She loves his money and wants him to go to jail so that she can live in the house. She has sex with a young boy b/c she can.

does ne1 have an hd recording of episode 17 from 4/3, "there won't be trumpets"? i scheduled my htpc to record it, but for some reason it didn't capture the episode. if ne1 would be willing to burn
me a .tp or .ts copy of the show onto a dvd, i would be glad to pay you
w/ 2 blank dvd's. please pm me if you're willing. thanks!

Wouldn't Gaby know that her birth control pills were tampered with? My wife went on birth control when we got married and the color of the pills are different. Even I remember that. I guess she could be using the same color pills?

Originally posted by mx6bfast
Wouldn't Gaby know that her birth control pills were tampered with? My wife went on birth control when we got married and the color of the pills are different. Even I remember that. I guess she could be using the same color pills?

It's "make-believe"

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/magicians/doug-henning/10044040.jpg

Suspend your reality :)


When the baby knit thing was found with "Dana" on it, the women assumed it was a little girls. Zach was said to have killed his own little sister.

So now, Zach = Dana. Hmmmm

Originally posted by AFH
She has sex with a young boy b/c she can.
But more important, he has sex with her because HE can.:D

We know that John is the father and not Carlos because the narrator was talking about children being uninvited while Gabrielle and John were having sex. Just as the narrator said that, it was clear that they had just finished what they were doing and Gabi had a big smile on her face. My impression was that we were witnessing the moment of conception. She also said earlier that Gabi would be pregnant within a week. IIRC correctly she was saying that while Carlos and Gabi were having sex. They didn't have sex again after that because he found out about the hospital settlement.

Originally posted by PJO1966
We know that John is the father and not Carlos because the narrator was talking about children being uninvited while Gabrielle and John were having sex. Just as the narrator said that, it was clear that they had just finished what they were doing and Gabi had a big smile on her face. My impression was that we were witnessing the moment of conception. She also said earlier that Gabi would be pregnant within a week. IIRC correctly she was saying that while Carlos and Gabi were having sex. They didn't have sex again after that because he found out about the hospital settlement.


This was my take on it too. Apparently AFH was too busy watching the action and didn't hear the narration of the final scene. :D ;)

Originally posted by cwilson
Dana could be a girl's name. Could Zach have undergone gender reassignment surgery? Is "gender reassignment surgery" the process where one becomes a he-she-it or alternatively a she-he-it with the it part being the key result of this gender-bender-surgical-switching sort of stuff?:confused:

Before I remembered that Dana could be a boy's name too, I was wondering if he was a hermaphrodite and they chose to raise him as a boy. I always go for the more complicated explanation.

insert obligatory Jamie Lee Curtis joke here

Originally posted by mx6bfast
Wouldn't Gaby know that her birth control pills were tampered with? My wife went on birth control when we got married and the color of the pills are different. Even I remember that. I guess she could be using the same color pills?

I had a friend whose girlfriend cheated on him and he took it really hard. He was also good friends with his sister and they tampered with her birth control pills and replaced them with placebos that looked the same. Well she got pregnant with the guy she left my friend for. This was around 15 years ago.

Originally posted by aaronwt
I had a friend whose girlfriend cheated on him and he took it really hard. He was also good friends with his sister and they tampered with her birth control pills and replaced them with placebos that looked the same. Well she got pregnant with the guy she left my friend for. This was around 15 years ago. I can only hope this is a "made up" story, because if not it sounds like the most stupid thing anyone could do...

1) OK ask your "smart-ass" friend (why anyone would need a friend like this is beyond me?) "so, how is the kid doing?"

2) Is the "mother" happy? Did an unplanned child adversely affect her career, or perhaps some other life choice?

3) Does the kid have a father? Is he growing up in a stable/loving home...?

4) How many lives did your "idiot" friend affect...? Grandparents, In-laws...?

Yes, a real smart trick... Maybe you should look for a better "class" of friends?

Originally posted by optivity
I can only hope this is a "made up" story, because if not it sounds like the most stupid thing anyone could do...

1) OK ask your "smart-ass" friend (why anyone would need a friend like this is beyond me?) "so, how is the kid doing?"

2) Is the "mother" happy? Did an unplanned child adversely affect her career, or perhaps some other life choice?

3) Does the kid have a father? Is he growing up in a stable/loving home...?

4) How many lives did your "idiot" friend affect...? Grandparents, In-laws...?

Yes, a real smart trick... Maybe you should look for a better "class" of friends?

I have to jump in here. His friend didn't make the ex-girlfriend sleep the other guy. She did that on her own.

Can't answer question 2.
The answer to question 3 is yes, the kid has a father. It takes two to get pregnant.

Why are you calling the friend an idiot. You don't know the guy! The ex-girlfriend is the idiot in my book.

I think that his friend should have found a better class of girlfriend, but then again maybe he did b/c this happened 15 yrs ago and your post and my post is not relevant to this thread.

So why post a comment trashing his friend?

Originally posted by AFH
So why post a comment trashing his friend?

Agreed, stupid post. I had a friend once who stole something. He's still my friend. I wonder if he is watching DH in HD? (back on topic)

Originally posted by mx6bfast
Agreed, stupid post. I had a friend once who stole something. He's still my friend. I wonder if he is watching DH in HD? (back on topic)


On a stolen HDTV? ;)

Some of you must have noticed this: The always appealing Leslie Ann Warren made a guest appearance on 4-10-05, as the mother of Teri Hatcher's character on "Desparate Housewives" on ABC. Then, just one hour later, on NBC, she appeared on "Crossing Jordan", playing, of all things, the mother of the character "Lily". The personalities and behavior of both these mother characters was almost identical.

In recent years, I've been seeing a lot more of the bit parts on primetime programs being played by actors that are recycled from canceled shows. And, there's also some "character" actors that seem to appear more frequently in different small roles on numerous shows. But this is the first time I've ever seen an actor play roles on two different shows on the same night. Was I imagining it, but did Lesley Ann Warren wear the same dress on both shows?? Was this a deliberate sort of inside joke or are the casting directors and actors' agents unaware of potential double-billings like this? One thing's for sure: she ain't "Cinderella" any more.

Originally posted by Steve McD
Some of you must have noticed this: The always appealing Leslie Ann Warren made a guest appearance on 4-10-05, as the mother of Teri Hatcher's character on "Desparate Housewives" on ABC. Then, just one hour later, on NBC, she appeared on "Crossing Jordan", playing, of all things, the mother of the character "Lily". The personalities and behavior of both these mother characters was almost identical.

In recent years, I've been seeing a lot more of the bit parts on primetime programs being played by actors that are recycled from canceled shows. And, there's also some "character" actors that seem to appear more frequently in different small roles on numerous shows. But this is the first time I've ever seen an actor play roles on two different shows on the same night. Was I imagining it, but did Lesley Ann Warren wear the same dress on both shows?? Was this a deliberate sort of inside joke or are the casting directors and actors' agents unaware of potential double-billings like this? One thing's for sure: she ain't "Cinderella" any more.

I did see that and thought...."I didn't know Lily and Susan were SISTERS!" :D

Originally posted by AFH
why post a comment trashing his friend? I apologize for my "latest" rant... I guess what motivated me was that while this story-line may seem amusing or entertaining on TV I do not find it worth "joking" about in "real-life." IMO there are way too many abused or neglected children in this world and it's unfortunate when all too often life's course is upset (altered) by an unplanned pregnancy.

OK, my guesses:

+ Dana was a foreign boy's name (no gender change).
+ Mary-Alice stole the baby from the hospital.
+ Mary-Alice fled with the baby and changed their names (although, why Felicia didn't remember the circumstances around her departure, I don't know).
+ The baby's real mother came looking for him, and Paul killed her, chopped her up and buried her in the toy box under the pool (Paul just told Zach it was a PI).

Q: Why did Paul dig up the box? It was well hidden under the pool.

Xesdeeni

Or was Dana their sir-name?

Dana can be a male name as well. A co-worker is a male Dana.

Which "Dana" would you prefer to see on "Desperate Housewives?"

http://home.nycap.rr.com/nessus/garth2.jpg

or

http://home.nycap.rr.com/nessus/dana_d.jpg

Originally posted by optivity
I apologize for my "latest" rant... I guess what motivated me was that while this story-line may seem amusing or entertaining on TV I do not find it worth "joking" about in "real-life." IMO there are way too many abused or neglected children in this world and it's unfortunate when all too often life's course is upset (altered) by an unplanned pregnancy. Lighten up. I have 2 sons from unplanned pregnancies and they are loved and cherished everyday of their lives. I consider those "unplanned" pregnancies the 2 greatest moments in my life...I think my sons and their mother would agree. Just because a child is unplanned doesn't imply they will be abused for crissakes.

Dude... that's not what I mean about "unplanned..." Since I "already" apologized maybe YOU should lighten up. Now, would you find it the least bit amusing if someone "switched" your wife's birth control with a placebo? I don't think so... any "rational" individual could never justify such behavior and it's not really funny to "joke" about.

I understand people might agree/disagree with what is going on with this show. Let's all remember it's a show. If this was Real World then that would seem more real, but again, DH is a show, not real life.

Don't apologize optivity - I'm right there with you. I got a bad, sick feeling in my stomach reading that. In my view, that goes WAY beyond the line of any kind of justifiable response - no matter what the motivation.

Lots of stupid things done by teenagers, but I can't see anyone with an adult's perspective, not being appalled at that.

As far as DH - it's a completely different scenario - as well as being fictional. Doesn't bother me at all.

Even though I was an unplanned pregnancy, I feel strongly that replacing someone's birth control pills is a reprehensible thing to do. It's one thing to throw caution to the wind and have unprotected sex. It's another thing entirely to do something so malicious. One is a conscious decision to take a risk, another is to have something forced upon you that you are actively trying to prevent. It was funny when Carlos did it. It's fiction. For someone to do that in the real world is childish and irresponsible.

Originally posted by mx6bfast
Let's all remember it's a show. If this was Real World then that would seem more real

How about if it was the Real World/Road Rules Challenge? :D You know, like the week before last when Tonya threw that one girl's clothing into the pool b/c that girl made Tonya look like a little hoe! :)

I don't think that Zach has had a addadicktome surgery, but Dana could be a baby they stole and once Mary-Alice had Zach they were satisfied in being able to have a baby of their "own".

Originally posted by AFH
...
I don't think that Zach has had a addadicktome surgery, but Dana could be a baby they stole and once Mary-Alice had Zach they were satisfied in being able to have a baby of their "own".

My theory is that Dana was the baby of Mike and the woman he is looking for; which Mary-Alice stole and renamed to Zach.

Originally posted by Mac The Knife
My theory is that Dana was the baby of Mike and the woman he is looking for; which Mary-Alice stole and renamed to Zach.

Interesting theory, but Mike's ex-wife's father sent him in search of whatever he is looking for.

Originally posted by AFH
Interesting theory, but Mike's ex-wife's father sent him in search of whatever he is looking for.

Pretty sure he is looking for what happened to his daughter, which could be the person chopped up and put in the chest. So the above scenario would fit.

Originally posted by AFH
Interesting theory, but Mike's ex-wife's father sent him in search of whatever he is looking for.

Yes, but it was already established that Mike had a relationship with the woman he was searching for.

Originally posted by PJO1966
Yes, but it was already established that Mike had a relationship with the woman he was searching for.

Yeah, unfortunately I did not record the first three or four episodes, so I can't go back and review those early shows that had all that info. Perhaps someone could recap those parts of those episodes.

Last night in the middle of the show my screen showed a picture split into 2 and then shown in reverse order - if that makes sense?? This went on for about 20 minutes so I had to watch the SD version on D*. By the way I get OTA HD. Then channel 7-1(ABC from SF) went off the air for a few minutes. Then it came back fixed finally.
Also I noticed during the entire broadcast the sound on the commercials was much lower than the show. That part was nice.

Mac The Knife:

This site might answer your questions:

http://www.tvtome.com/DesperateHousewives/guide.html

This coming Sunday is a special re-cap type of episode which might answer some questions if you haven't see every episode.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/desperate/index.html
Desperate Housewives - Home

I was a fan of DH, but after the last 2 episodes the novelty has worn off for me. It now seems like they just make things up as they go without much planning- kind of like the feeling I got with the last 2 Star Wars movies.

Did anyone else notice the clock ticking in the background when the mother and son were talking in the livingroom about his being gay? It drove me nuts!

I thought the season finale was actually pretty good; gave us some answers, but left a lot of questions as to how the plot will develop next year. I take it that this means that Mike Delfino is likely Zack's real father. Great PQ tonitght too (as usual w/ DH).

I thought the season finale was actually pretty good; gave us some answers, but left a lot of questions as to how the plot will develop next year. I take it that this means that Mike Delfino is likely Zack's real father. Great PQ tonitght too (as usual w/ DH).

I suspect the same about Mike and Zack. Also, I think it's likely that Bree will at least be approached by the police about poisoning her late husband even though it was the pharmacist. Btw, I don't think he's dead; I think it's staged to punish her. Or at least that's the route they can go if the actor wants to come back (if he's left the show).

I suspect the same about Mike and Zack. Also, I think it's likely that Bree will at least be approached by the police about poisoning her late husband even though it was the pharmacist. Btw, I don't think he's dead; I think it's staged to punish her. Or at least that's the route they can go if the actor wants to come back (if he's left the show).

I agree with them suspecting Bree; just based on the doctors' suspicion. I also thought the same as far as whether Bree's hubby was really dead. That could go either way; though, I'm not convinced that he's not dead.

Ditto the aboves.

My instinct is he's faking it also, oh how cruel :D

And yeah I bet Mike is Zack's father

I hope Mike doesn't get too warm to the idea of having a son...that kid needs to be locked up in a maximum-security mental facility...

My theory is that Dana was the baby of Mike and the woman he is looking for; which Mary-Alice stole and renamed to Zach.

Gotta give you credit. We know you are, at least, part right.

I thought that Rex would be the series regular to be killed off when I read that the pharmacist was coming back next season.

I thought a very satisfactory season ending episode. I also think this show may have the best PQ on network HD, although LOST may be tied for the top spot.

i still don't get the reference to the "Dana" name?!? isn't that a girl's name? was Daedra so strung out she thought her baby was a girl and named her such? or was this meant to confuse viewers so as not to be able to figure out who Zach really is very early on? i kinda got the impression early on already that Daedra and Zach may be somewhat related but the "Dana" name kept throwing me off...

i still don't get the reference to the "Dana" name?!? isn't that a girl's name?

It can also be a guy's name. Dana Carvey comes to mind.

Zach's name was originally Dana to throw us off the trail, and make it easy to say he killed his sister. And I think he's mentally unstable because his mom was a junkie when she had him. Even drinking alcohol during pregnancy can cause birth defects and mental development issues. Imagine what heroin or whatever would do...

Gotta give you credit. We know you are, at least, part right.

Thanks. But since Kendra said that the cop was forcing Deirdre to have sex, I'm now waffling on my original position that Zack is Mike's kid. Now I'm wondering if he's the cop's kid.

At least I got the other stuff right and there's still a good chance that Zack is Mike's kid especially since that would make for a great confrontation between Mike and Zack when the next season starts back up as Mike walks into the house with Zack and Susan there.

It can also be a guy's name. Dana Carvey comes to mind.

Dana Andrews also

Dana Andrews also

And let's not forget Dana Demuth the MLB umpire. :)

I suspect the same about Mike and Zack. Also, I think it's likely that Bree will at least be approached by the police about poisoning her late husband even though it was the pharmacist. Btw, I don't think he's dead; I think it's staged to punish her. Or at least that's the route they can go if the actor wants to come back (if he's left the show).

I have a hard time believing that Rex's doctor would call Bree and tell her that Rex was dead just to punish her. I think that probably violates a whole bunch of medical ethics....

Is Rex really off the show?

-JR

Is Rex really off the show?

-JR

That's the wildcard for next season along with the gun confrontation with the kid and father :)

Rex could both be dead *and* still be on the show. What about Mary Alice? They could give Rex as much air time in Bree's tortured flashbacks as he's been getting this year.

It certainly looked like Bree was leaving for the funeral in her last shot. That doesn't bode well for Rex somehow being alive. Of course, with this show anything's possible.

Is Rex really off the show?

-JR

According to Steven Culp, on Leno last night, Rex is dead and may not return for flashbacks unless the producers come up with “a boat load of money”.

He said he had a 2 year contract, but knew going in that all men were expendable.

Rex is dead, Mike is the father, Gabby goes off with the ex-gardner, Carlos goes to prison for years, the new black family is in the witness protection program due to the dad, Brie gets arrested for killing her husband but not jail, etc....


Rich

Rex is dead, Mike is the father, Gabby goes off with the ex-gardner, Carlos goes to prison for years, the new black family is in the witness protection program due to the dad, Brie gets arrested for killing her husband but not jail, etc....


Rich


Works for me! :D Seriously, you're probably right. I can see Rex getting the doctor to help him get back at Bree. I don't think that Gabby will go off with the boy gardner.

Even though he really made it clear he was dead on the tonight show. I'm still hoping that they're playing everyone and he's still alive and has messing with Bree, We'll see I guess :)

Rex is dead, Mike is the father, Gabby goes off with the ex-gardner, Carlos goes to prison for years, the new black family is in the witness protection program due to the dad, Brie gets arrested for killing her husband but not jail, etc....

That would certainly be the way to make the dullest possible season opener next year. If they want to kill the show, that's exactly how it will play out. :D

They will need an overriding mystery theme next year as they had this year. I think it will be the death of Rex. Bree becomes engaged to the pharmacist, and she gets charged with the murder. Mike, as a central character, has to be involved somehow in investigating it.

But this show has never done the obvious.

They will need an overriding mystery theme next year as they had this year. I think it will be the death of Rex. ...

Doesn't work. We already know who-done-it (unless really is Brie.) That plot line belongs on a typical daytime-soap not DH.

Shame they got rid of Rex and not that terrible pharm. I cringe everytime his hideous grin spreads across his cheeks. Ugh. I kept waiting for that storyline to end so I wouldn't have to deal with his character.

I really wish they'd simply gotten rid of the pharmacist and began working on a storyline to get Bree and Rex's marriage and family back together. Where was the son during this entire episode? I thought he was finally back home with the family.

-JR

I have a hard time believing that Rex's doctor would call Bree and tell her that Rex was dead just to punish her. I think that probably violates a whole bunch of medical ethics....
I'm not sure that a show like DH would concern itself with ethics. :D

Doesn't work. We already know who-done-it (unless really is Brie.)

No way she did it, not after seeing that scene after she found out, for Bree to go completely out of character and break down like that was something to see, she was definitely hurting.

I can't believe 2 doctors could not figure out what was going on with the medicine, I mean really, would you continue to go to a pharmacist that you knew had the hots for your wife?... of course, it is TV.. :p

No way she did it, not after seeing that scene after she found out, for Bree to go completely out of character and break down like that was something to see, she was definitely hurting.

I can't believe 2 doctors could not figure out what was going on with the medicine, I mean really, would you continue to go to a pharmacist that you knew had the hots for your wife?... of course, it is TV.. :p


Now I remember. The pharmacist is the one who changed Rex's pills.

Shame they got rid of Rex and not that terrible pharm. I cringe everytime his hideous grin spreads across his cheeks. Ugh. I kept waiting for that storyline to end so I wouldn't have to deal with his character.



I agree, me too. You'd thnk someone as smart as Bree would notice how creepy that guy is :p .

People like Bree see what they want to see and tend to ignore anything that is not perfect.

i really dont like the characterization "soap" to this series. It is leaps and bounds above that crap that actual housewives and other such people who need a life watch during the day. I wish the media would stop characterizing this dramedy as a soap. it makes my skin crawl.

Have we ever answered the question as to why the toy chest was dug up and removed from the bottom of the pool? What did I miss?

It madce no sense to do that. If they would have left it under the pool it would have never been found.

Have we ever answered the question as to why the toy chest was dug up and removed from the bottom of the pool? What did I miss?

I think since they got that note saying "I know what you did" Paul was afraid that he was now a suspect in the death, which could mean extensive digging up of his property searching for the body.

I think since they got that note saying "I know what you did" Paul was afraid that he was now a suspect in the death, which could mean extensive digging up of his property searching for the body.

Right. Paul was disposing of the evidence before the authorities found it.

i really dont like the characterization "soap" to this series. It is leaps and bounds above that crap that actual housewives and other such people who need a life watch during the day. I wish the media would stop characterizing this dramedy as a soap. it makes my skin crawl.

Yes, it's better than a daytime soap... but it is along the same lines as prime-time soaps like Knotts Landing.

i really dont like the characterization "soap" to this series. It is leaps and bounds above that crap that actual housewives and other such people who need a life watch during the day. I wish the media would stop characterizing this dramedy as a soap. it makes my skin crawl.

I hate to spoil your machismo, but it's soap opera :)

Here are some definitions


A soap opera is an ongoing, episodic work of fiction, usually broadcast on television or radio. This genre of TV and radio entertainment has been in existence long enough for audiences to recognize them simply by the term soap. What differentiates a soap from other television drama programs is their open-ended nature. Plots run concurrently, and lead into further developments: there is rarely a need to "wrap things up", although soaps that run in series for only part of the year tend to bring things to a dramatic cliffhanger.

Soap opera characteristics
Most soaps follow the lives of a group of characters who live or work in a particular place. The storylines follow the day-to-day lives of these characters, who seem similar to ordinary people on the street — except that soap opera characters are usually more handsome, beautiful, seductive, and richer than the typical person watching the TV show. Soap operas take everyday, ordinary lives and exaggerate them to a degree where they are still believable, yet they are more dramatic.

Romances, secret relationships, extra-marital affairs, and genuine love has been the basis for the vast majority of soap operas. The most memorable soap opera characters, and the most compelling and popular storylines, have usually involved a romance between two characters, of the sort often presented in paperback romance novels. Soap opera storylines weave intricate, convoluted, sometimes confusing tales of characters who have affairs, meet mysterious strangers and fall in love, are swept off their feet by dashing (yet treacherous) lovers, sneak behind their lovers' backs, and engage in other forms of adultery that keep their audiences returning to find out who is sleeping with whom, who has betrayed whom, who is having a baby, who is related to each other, and so on.

Remarkable (sometimes unbelievable) coincidences are used to enhance the drama in most soap operas. For example, if a young woman in a soap secretly has a single sexual encounter with her boyfriend back in high school, this forbidden affair will certainly come back to haunt her several years later...usually at the very moment that it would cause the most harm (such as on the day of her wedding). Previously-unknown (and often evil) twins regularly emerge, and unexpected calamities disrupt weddings with unusual frequency. Much like comic books—another popular form of linear storytelling—a character's death is not guaranteed to be permanent without an on-camera corpse, and sometimes not even then.

Is Rex really off the show?

maybe mary alice and rex will BOTH be doing voiceovers next season! :D

I can't believe 2 doctors could not figure out what was going on with the medicine . . . .

there was no reason to suspect problems with the medication. nobody's ever going to think that there's a pharmacist out there actively trying to murder people by tampering with their meds.

there was no reason to suspect problems with the medication. nobody's ever going to think that there's a pharmacist out there actively trying to murder people by tampering with their meds.

Except this guy was not just "a pharmacist". Consider the confrontations between Rex and the pharmacist. If that doesn't raise a red flag to Rex, then I don't know what would.

As I recall Rex was a physician and you are telling me that he wouldn't recognize the "fake" pills given to him? As a senior citizen with all the medication I take I always make sure I get the right "pills".

Well, Gabrielle was fooled by placebo birth control pills, too...

And while she's not a doctor, I suspect that she has been on the pill for quite some time, and would recognize that the new pills weren't the same.

--Dan

The fake pills look like the originals. When a friend from 15 years also did this to his ex-girlfriend, the pills he got looked exactly like the birth control pills. Well she never saw the difference.

Even though he really made it clear he was dead on the tonight show. I'm still hoping that they're playing everyone and he's still alive and has messing with Bree, We'll see I guess :)USA Today had an interesting quote from Culp today; he said "Rex is really dead... as far as they've told me."

Or Cherry killed off Rex, but I don't think he''s decided what's going to happen in season two yet. Frankly I suspect he's leaning back to see what kinds of crazy things people on the Internet say about it over the summer and will at the very least play up those rumors (e.g. If Rex is dead, they'll play with rumors that he's not for a while. Frankly it should all be settled in the premiere as there's got to be a funeral coming up, and it's not like a heart failure would be closed casket…)

The fake pills look like the originals. When a friend from 15 years also did this to his ex-girlfriend, the pills he got looked exactly like the birth control pills. Well she never saw the difference.


Don't leave us with such a "cliffhanger". There has to be more to the story with your friend.

Don't leave us with such a "cliffhanger". There has to be more to the story with your friend.


There is! He told the story a couple of pages back. I don't remember what page but I remember the story.

There is! He told the story a couple of pages back. I don't remember what page but I remember the story.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5471036&&#post5471036

Thanks for the thread. I love it.

Except this guy was not just "a pharmacist". Consider the confrontations between Rex and the pharmacist. If that doesn't raise a red flag to Rex, then I don't know what would.

As I recall Rex was a physician and you are telling me that he wouldn't recognize the "fake" pills given to him? As a senior citizen with all the medication I take I always make sure I get the right "pills".

next time you visit your doc, take one pill out of each of your med bottles, & see if your doc can identify them. i bet he/she won't be able to id all of them. docs rarely see the meds. they just write the 'scripts.

Just in case anyone missed it, the finale will be on again tonight at 10:00.

I started watching “Desperate Housewives” for the first time this summer. I started with the rerun of episode 1. All of a sudden this week, episode 18 was shown. Episodes 10-17 were skipped. I assume there are not enough weeks in the summer to show all 23 episodes, but why not rerun the show twice for a few weeks? Skipping episodes makes the plot of this show hard to fallow.

Perhaps they want you to buy the complete first season "Desperate Housewives", available Sept. 20th.

I started watching “Desperate Housewives” for the first time this summer. I started with the rerun of episode 1. All of a sudden this week, episode 18 was shown. Episodes 10-17 were skipped. I assume there are not enough weeks in the summer to show all 23 episodes, but why not rerun the show twice for a few weeks? Skipping episodes makes the plot of this show hard to fallow.

That's apparently an ABC "strategy" done with LOST as well. Guess they want to foster sales of the Season 1 DVDs - but it would be nice if they released the DVD early enough for people to catch up before Season 2 starts. Guess that doesn't make enough sense. :rolleyes:

I hate to spoil your machismo, but it's soap opera :)

Here are some definitions

The difference is that Desparate Housewives is a satirical comedy rather than a drama like typical soap operas.

igreg, what's with all the phantom posts? I must have deleted 10 email notifications in the last 1/2 hr.. :eek: :D

Even though he really made it clear he was dead on the tonight show. I'm still hoping that they're playing everyone and he's still alive and has messing with Bree, We'll see I guess :)

This and other questions answered below:



Yes, Rex is really dead. The second season opens at his funeral, where we meet Bree's mother-in-law. "She's very passive-aggressive," says creator Marc Cherry. "In her own way, she's just as controlling as Bree."

We haven't seen the last of psycho pharmacist George. "George will wait for an appropriate amount of time for Bree to grieve," says Cherry. "Then he will pop back in the picture with a vengeance."

Lynette's returned the ad biz won't go smoothly, thanks to a prickly new boss. "she's a very driven business woman who doesn't have time for women who gave up their careers to raise families," says Cherry.

Pregnant Gabrielle tries to make her marriage work.

Mike is the father of Zach, and this news troubles Susan, as does the romance between her ex-husband and Edie.

Alfre Woodward joins the cast as a Betty Applewhite, a piano teacher. Betty and her handsome son are seemingly nice people who will reveal a very deep, dark secret in the first episode. According to Cherry, Applewhite arrives with, "a really creepy secret". Alfe Woodward says, "Maybe I seem a little to snuggly with my son."

Yeah I missed a lot by not seeing the episode before the final. The pill mix up convinced me he was really dead ;)

igreg, what's with all the phantom posts? I must have deleted 10 email notifications in the last 1/2 hr.. :eek: :D

Just experimenting via editing, posting, and then deleting posts immediately after posting, to get the Spoiler tags correct (first time attempting this). I often edit my posts a few times to correct misspellings. grammar, etcetera. In fact, I just edited the above post to add a comment by director Cherry in this week's TV Guide.

What kind of e-mail notifications do you receive? You receive an e-mail after every post?

Just experimenting via editing, posting, and then deleting posts immediately after posting, to get the Spoiler tags correct (first time attempting this). I often edit my posts a few times to correct misspellings. grammar, etcetera. In fact, I just edited the above post to add a comment by director Cherry in this week's TV Guide.

What kind of e-mail notifications do you receive? You receive an e-mail after every post?
The instant notification option, so each time a post is made or edited it sends a notification, most of the time anyway...so, I can see what you're doing.. :eek: :D

That's apparently an ABC "strategy" done with LOST as well. Guess they want to foster sales of the Season 1 DVDs - but it would be nice if they released the DVD early enough for people to catch up before Season 2 starts. Guess that doesn't make enough sense. :rolleyes:

Yeah, glad you mentioned that; I don't understand the DVD release dates either. Had several friends who decided to get "Lost" this summer who didn't follow the show last year, but were finally worn down by those of us who did. :) They needed to catch up on the first season (since reruns wouldn't do it) before starting the second, obviously, so that they could keep up with the "water cooler" discussions this year.

But then they release the frackin' DVD set too close to the start of the second season for them to watch it all and get caught up before the second season starts. Maybe they do it that way to get those people to buy the second season DVD set right before the third season starts....? That's too cynical, isn't it? I mean, they'd never do something like that would they....??? :mad:

Just experimenting via editing, posting, and then deleting posts immediately after posting, to get the Spoiler tags correct (first time attempting this).


I'm pretty sure there's a "test posting" forum for such experimentation :)

forgive me for my ignorance , looking at titan tv the way I read it DH is shown in HD only ota not on cable. is this true?

forgive me for my ignorance , looking at titan tv the way I read it DH is shown in HD only ota not on cable. is this true?
No, it should be in HD everywhere there is a ABC HD feed, cable, sat and OTA.

The show looks good but what's up with the "jitter" when he camera pans quickly across a room or to follow a character? I've heard of this happening on other shows, but don't know why it happens or what causes it. In more descriptive terms, the picture just seems jerky as opposed to being very fluid - as if the frame rate were something like 20f/s instead of 30f/s or 60f/s.

Shows that have been filmed have that problem with quick horizontal motion.

Ok so who's in the basement...

Our DVR stopped recording right as the new couple begins to put the plate of food down on the table in the basement. Did anything else occur here? My wife and I want to make sure we didn't miss anything.

Thanks!

-JR

It just showed an arm reach out to pick something up off the plate (after the mother and son and shut the door and left). The arm was in a shackle.

So.... in Phoenix we get the first 30 seconds in HD, and then ABC15 switches to SD! :mad: :mad:

So.... in Phoenix we get the first 30 seconds in HD, and then ABC15 switches to SD! :mad: :mad:

And back and forth so far for the first 45 mins! Audio dropouts etc. The worst I've ever seen. C'mon ABC 15 .... get it together! :mad:

Did you notice the very important change for the new season?

The dog, which barked once from the left rear speaker every week last season, was heard from the right rear tonight.