Quick qestion for anyone who can help. I have 1.12 installed via disk sent from Denon. I have my 1910 hooked up through DVI to my panasonic 53wx54 53 inch. 1.12 helped somewhat, but there still are some macroblocking issues with star wars and master and commander. My question is in regards to widescreen dvds. My TV does not allow for any stretching or zooming if the picture input is 1080i, which is what DVI is. When I turn the dvi button off there is no picture at all. I know that I can use the dvd players zoom, but the picture quality is not as good. Is there any way to see a widescreen dvd in 16 X 9 format (and where it covers the whole screen, without the black on the top and bottom)? I thought that the widscreen tv would automatically cover the whole screen. Thank you

Originally posted by gmd063
I am not trying to be discouraging on the 1910 but I bought one from Crutchfield and it exhibited horrible picture quality on my Hit 57T500. As a matter of fact it was not nearly as sharp as my old Bravo D1. I recently picked up a DVD-2200 from Hi-Fi buys in Atlanta and it was the best purchase I ever made. It is so much faster at everything and exhibits much better picture quality(not to mention much more sturdy). I guess what I am trying to say is I would not hold my breathe on the new 2300 chips in the new DVD players. If you are within your return period do yourself a favor and go pick up a DVD-2200 for $298 or a DVD-2900 for $488 on closeout at Hi-Fi Buys(A Tweeter Company) with full manufacturers warranty and you will not be disappointed. The SIL504 chips in the 2200 and 2900 produce a beautiful picture.

See Ya
Matt

I have a dvd-2200 as well & have to agree. When I got it, it was between the 2200 or the 1910, and I decided for about the same price, I could get a much more responsive and better sounding player in the 2200, and DVD-A and SACD capability to boot. It's only 480P but it is a beautiful pic, and for ~$300 out the door, I got the next level of quality instead of bargain basement for about the same price (since I would have had to get a DVI cable to get the upscaling anyhoo). Besides, from all the posts, i'm not so convinced upscaling in lower end players is all that it is cracked up to be. The dvd-2200 is getting very hard to find for less than $300, get em while you can.

Originally posted by benbow
Can someone send me the new FW for denon 1910 1.12 for PAL?

Many thanks

Benbow

pm sent

I downloaded the 1.12 upgrade and burned a CD, but my 1910 will not upgrade with it (I've got v1.08 on my 1910 --one of the first to purchase it for my HLP6163). On my system Nero only allows 8x burning (not 4x) and higher. I don't see a ISO9660:1999 option, only ISO9660.

Any ideas?

Originally posted by kmax
Quick qestion for anyone who can help. I have 1.12 installed via disk sent from Denon. I have my 1910 hooked up through DVI to my panasonic 53wx54 53 inch. 1.12 helped somewhat, but there still are some macroblocking issues with star wars and master and commander. My question is in regards to widescreen dvds. My TV does not allow for any stretching or zooming if the picture input is 1080i, which is what DVI is. When I turn the dvi button off there is no picture at all. I know that I can use the dvd players zoom, but the picture quality is not as good. Is there any way to see a widescreen dvd in 16 X 9 format (and where it covers the whole screen, without the black on the top and bottom)? I thought that the widscreen tv would automatically cover the whole screen. Thank you

I think it has everything to do with the ratio they shot the widescreen at in the original filming. My Sony 57WS550 won't stretch anything once it's in any of the DVI upconverted modes, and it's not supposed to either. I could be dead wrong about the ratio deal, but I don't think so.

Originally posted by Darrel Johansen
I downloaded the 1.12 upgrade and burned a CD, but my 1910 will not upgrade with it (I've got v1.08 on my 1910 --one of the first to purchase it for my HLP6163). On my system Nero only allows 8x burning (not 4x) and higher. I don't see a ISO9660:1999 option, only ISO9660.

Any ideas?
Try a different disc brand (worked for me!) and don't worry about the ISO type. I don't know what the hell 1999 is or if it even exists. Besides, the disc image has the files system defined already.

load the .bin in NERO, you can open a .bin file and burn it.

Its ready to go.

And don't use crappy media, and expect it to work.

The 1910's laser is pretty picky

Downloaded the new Nero, but still no luck. Guess I'll have to try some different brand CD-Rs.

Well... I e-mailed Denon for the update (1.12) and received it a few days ago. Loaded it this morning and everything went fine. Except now my image looks as though it is compressed vertically. I mean that the black letterbox bars at the top and bottom are bigger than before with every movie!! Also, movies that were filling up the screen now have black letterbox bars. I have a Toshiba 50HDX82 and did not have this problem with version 1.08 that came with my DVD-1910 originally. I can't figure it out. It seems as though 1.12 has changed my picture. I am running DVI output to my DVI input at 1080i. It does not matter if I go to 480P or 720P. Same result. Is anyone else having this problem? Do you perceive that your image has been "compressed" vertically? Any solutions? Is there a way to roll back the firmware to 1.08? I'll be calling Denon support tomorrow to see what they can do. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Originally posted by Nester
Well... I e-mailed Denon for the update (1.12) and received it a few days ago. Loaded it this morning and everything went fine. Except now my image looks as though it is compressed vertically. I mean that the black letterbox bars at the top and bottom are bigger than before with every movie!! Also, movies that were filling up the screen now have black letterbox bars. I have a Toshiba 50HDX82 and did not have this problem with version 1.08 that came with my DVD-1910 originally. I can't figure it out. It seems as though 1.12 has changed my picture. I am running DVI output to my DVI input at 1080i. It does not matter if I go to 480P or 720P. Same result. Is anyone else having this problem? Do you perceive that your image has been "compressed" vertically? Any solutions? Is there a way to roll back the firmware to 1.08? I'll be calling Denon support tomorrow to see what they can do. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Did you change back the setting in your Denon to Widesreen (the default is 4:3). Instalation of the firmware changes all setting to default.

Still no luck with other CD media. I emailed Denon and got a reply that the update will be sent out today.

THANKS!! I remembered to change everything else back to my previous settings, but forgot the aspect ratio. Looks great now. I appreciate the help.

So has anyone found a way to make this multi-region yet? I see the firmware for sale on ebay, and I just bought this (so still a few weeks before I have to make a decision for sure). I'm trying to decide if I should return it and wait for something better (or put together a HTPC) or not.

I have a Region 2 Firmware that is Multi Region But its version 1.10.

I am figuring out how they make it region free, so I can hopefully make the new 1.12 firmwares region free.

I have not seen ANY 1.12 region free firmwares for sale or out yet.

Ebay's people are selling 1.09 which is REALLY old.

Unless someone knows something I don't.

Thanks to the posters of the URL here to download the firmware update, I was able to make my own CD with Nero and it works just fine. In fact, before I did that, I emailed Denon and they replied saying they will send me a disc right away, and I received it quickly too.

Anyway, looks like we lost some of the menu choices with 1.12? I recall some sharpness control and now there is nothing there for it in the menu, i can only see 'brightness' which u can do +/- 5 on.

I couldn't find it backtracking in the thread, but what are the updates/fixes in 1.12? I had 1.08 previously !!

has there been any solution to playing 4x3 material on this dvd player? I haven't touched my firmware yet, but can't find if this problem has been addressed yet.

I have sharpness and all of the other controls that I had with my previous 1.08. Try using the "arrow" control pad on your remote control to toggle though the choices. I still think they are all there. I'm sure I had a successful upgrade to 1.12 from 1.08 just as yourself. Good luck!

Any reason why they have not put the 1910 firmware upgrades on the website yet? Or am I not seeing it?

Just got the new firmware 1.12 for the 1910 directly fron Denon and loaded it as directed. I honestly do not see much difference in the PQ. Can anyone tell me exactly what was supposed to be fixed with this update? If anyone needs it, I would be happy to email if possible.
Thanks

Could someone send me the new FW for the denon 1910 V1.12 PAL (R2) Version also? My e-mail is fversteeg2005@hotmail.com

Thanks in advance.

i just bought the 755 a few days ago which is the 1910 but the silver version.so far i have watched several movies thru the dvi and everything works great so far no flaws at all.maybe im a lucky one.this player even passes btb thru dvi on my toshiba 46hx83.so far no jitters.green push or lip sync problems.i have the 1.08 firmware

Originally posted by fversteeg
Could someone send me the new FW for the denon 1910 V1.12 PAL (R2) Version also? My e-mail is fversteeg2005@hotmail.com

Thanks in advance.

mail sent

Does anyone know if the 1910 firmware update 1.12 will also update the firmware on the 755s? The 755 is supposedly just a "silver" version of the 1910, but I don't know if the unit will update with the 1910 firmware or if Denon will release a separate firmware update for the 755.

Thanks!

I have the 755s and upgraded the firmware to 1.12 with no problems.

Thanks eze88.

I downloaded Dazog's 1.12 bits and I tried burning the CD a few times with various recorders/software and kept getting "disc error". I then downloaded CDRWin and was able to use it to successfully burn a good CD. My 755s is now running 1.12 firmware. Thanks Dazog!

So, what does 1.12 have that's fixed, enhanced?

Originally posted by eze88
I have the 755s and upgraded the firmware to 1.12 with no problems.

How do you like the 755S? I ordered one and was wondering whether its performance was identical to the 1910.

i have the 755 s for a few weeks now and it works great.no problems as of now.i called denon yesterday to get the 1.12 firmware and they sent it out already.wondering if i should upgrade it since everything is great now with this player

Originally posted by electronics craz
...wondering if i should upgrade it since everything is great now with this player

Good question craz...can anyone breakdown the specific issues that 1.12 appears to address? I am pretty happy with the performance of my 1910, but requested the update from Denon anyway. The only real issue that still bothers me is the 1080i jitter and I don't want to introduce any new issues unneccessarily...Thanks.

Chris.

jitter is still there at 1080i with 1.12

i don't think denon will ever fix this

i must be a lucky one cause i have no jitter with mine

Originally posted by Dazog
jitter is still there at 1080i with 1.12

i don't think denon will ever fix this

Including all the other flaws they haven't fixed, which make my 1910 unplugged in the rack. :mad:

Yeah, unfortunately it appears that those that spend $600+ get actual support, and those that spend less are relegated to the "you should have spent more" pile. What a disappointment as my first Denon purchase. Needless to say, I won't be purchasing a Denon HD DVD player, nor any other piece of their gear.

Later,
Jeff

Originally posted by Jules Dollah
Including all the other flaws they haven't fixed, which make my 1910 unplugged in the rack. :mad:

Right you are, Jules. By any chance, do you know what was supposed to be fixed? Does anybody?
Graininess, green push, jitter, etc all still there.

They claim that they have fixed the underscan problem. Unfortunately it's not.

I plan on buying a Panasonic S97 since it has fewer problems than this player and is HDMI

http://fjpchina.free.fr/Hifi_video/1910/E5D112_PL0S.ab5

REGION FREE 1.12 for PAL players

NOT FOR NTSC Players

if anyone has seen a NTSC Region Free Firmware please PM!

Originally posted by Dazog
http://fjpchina.free.fr/Hifi_video/1910/E5D112_PL0S.ab5

REGION FREE 1.12 for PAL players

NOT FOR NTSC Players

if anyone has seen a NTSC Region Free Firmware please PM!

I received a 1.12 install NTSC CD direct from Denon, although I don't know if it's region free. It did install without any problem and the 1900 has been running great ever since. Has anyone else installed this? Results?

Well, this isn't good. Picked up a 755 and checked the firmware ver. and it was 1.08. Downloaded and burned the 1.12 and started the process.

After a short bit, it flashed "1.12" on the readout and then nothing happened. It didn't eject, it wouldn't respond to the remote or button presses.....nada.

Unplugged the unit and let it set 15 seconds and plugged it back in and the ring around the power button is red, but the unit now doesn't respond to any input from the remote or buttons.

How screwed am I now?

Originally posted by Dazog
http://fjpchina.free.fr/Hifi_video/1910/E5D112_PL0S.ab5

REGION FREE 1.12 for PAL players

NOT FOR NTSC Players

if anyone has seen a NTSC Region Free Firmware please PM!

Same question, Anybody knows how to convert region 1 (NTSC) in a region free player???

Thanks,

I have looked into it.

Unless someone has a REGION FREE firmware from DENON the PAL Firmwares contain different information than the NTSC versions

I have not seen ANY NTSC region free firmwares.

IF someone wants to prove me wrong let us know.

Any idea what could've happened with my flash problem? I used your firmware RAR.

(No, I'm not blaming you.)

Did you unplug it from the wall after you did the flash and plug it back in?

Yes, as I detailed above. It didn't eject after it displayed the "1.12" number during the flash and none of the buttons responded, so I unplugged it and now it won't turn on at all. I had to open it up to get the CD-RW out.

I would send it back to Denon and say it just stopped working or exchange it for a new one.

Cause no one else has had this problem updating firmwares.

It's going back to the store as a DOA in the morning. Really screws up my weekend and makes me scared to mess with this again.

How long should the process take and is the CD supposed to eject like the instructions said? Could I have not waited long enough for it to pop out and unplugging it left it half-flashed? (The same reason you don't power off a PC during a BIOS flash.) It had felt like it had stopped.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Yes it should open the tray and you remove the CD and then power off the unit and then unplug it from the wall.

Once again, how long should it have taken? 15 seconds? 5 minutes? Did I jump the gun by unplugging it after only 30 seconds after it showed 1.12 on the display? Is that supposed to happen?

it could take a few minutes, wait until it pops the disc out when its done.

I dunno why you would turn it off yourself?

Unless it has taken alonggggg time.

Mine took less than 10 minutes to complete.

That must be what happened. I'm used to updating computer firmwares and those only take a minute or so to do, so if this is going to take 10 minutes, then I'm just going to have to wait it out. I had no idea it would be so involved. Thanks.

Got the new one and this time didn't screw up the flash. (Maybe if I'd attached it to the TV first? D'OH!!!)

Hooked to my 51" Sony WS550 via DVI the output is macroblocking hell! Forget the dark areas - anything with subtle shading showed gruesome blocks, like:

* Dinner scene in Shrek 2 - The wood table shows blocks.

* Attack of the Clones - Palpatine's maroon office walls.

* The Incredibles - the chapter which starts with Helen vacuuming the hallway, the wall.

I didn't note any jitter at any rez and didn't notice any greenish-blacks, but then again, the blocking was so bad that it wasn't going to stay on that hookup long enough to matter.

Component looks good, but I'm disappointed that it doesn't pillar-box 4:3 material or kick the set into Full mode on widescreen content automatically like the $50 JVC it replaces does. Slow response time and a kludgey remote kinda suck, too.

I'm almost gonna take it back and ride it out with the old cheapo. Sad that we're supposed to spend a week's pay to properly play a $15 DVD. Lame.

i sold mine bought a panasonic s97

too many unresloved problems with the 1910 denon ignored.

What do you believe about the following procedure:

1.- To upgrade my Region 1 NTSC 1910 with a "normal" european firmware (not regionfree).

2.- Then upgrade with the available region free patch for european models.

I think that stage 1 will not function, but It would be interesting to try.

Can someone send me an european normal firmware for 1910???

Thanks,

Took my 755 back tonight after seeing hellacious MB on component in an episode of Angel and when fade ins on Ray and Lion King looked like mosaics. Pathetic.

Picked up an LG 418 last night and don't like it, so I got a Toshiba V596 tonight and will see t'row how it goes.

Buh-bye, Denon. Overpriced junk.

I'm thinking about getting the 1910 along with a Sammy DLP so it sounds like the combo works pretty good. My question is about switching display modes and outputs. Is it easy to change from upconverting a DVI to just regular progressive output over component? Along, with the Sammy, I have a Sharp 20 inch LCD with only components. I'm not worried about upconverting this because of the size but I want to be able to switch from widescreen DVI upconverted 720P to 4:3 progressive scan output over component. Is this difficult to do?
Thanks,
-Shane

Is it easy to change from upconverting a DVI to just regular progressive output over component?

It's not hard, but you'd have to 1) switch the TV's display input to component and 2) switch the DVI button on the Denon to 480p...

The Denon 1910 will only upconvert thru DVI..

Unfortunately, the 1910 doesn't have that DVI button function on the Remote..

So you would have to get your lazy a$$ off the couch and go switch the output on the Denon :D

More I investigate, more difficult to transform to a region free dVD player.

It seems impossible to play pal discs, because I put Region free pal discs and detect format error, instead of region error when I put NTSC discs fron region 4 or pal discs from region 2.

Additionaly, In this link they say that is not capable to play pal discs if they convert to region free...

Due to hardware/software limitations this player can not play PAL material, it will only accept NTSC

http://www.jvbdigital.com/jvb.asp?cur=2&level=modifications&page=title&title=764

Hi everyone,

My 1910 (Region 1) has v. 1.08 firmware, and I notice that in 1080i, the screen will occasionally drop to black for a couple of seconds and then come on again. I can't pinpoint when it happens because if I rewind the same scene again, the picture is shown just fine. Btw. my TV is the Sony XBR 960.

Anyway, I went through this thread and I wasn't sure whether anyone experienced this problem and, more importantly, whether the new firmware (1.12) is going to fix this? Thx for the help!

D

update to 1.12

alot is fixed.

I had dropouts on my 34xs955 as well

Dazog,

Upgrade went flawlessly. Thx for posting!

D.

1910 1.12 Firmware download
Thanks to Dazog.........

Here ya go:

http://www.zinnianet.net/~dnaranjo/Denon1910112R1.rar


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Does this link still work?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bhain333
[B]1910 1.12 Firmware download
Thanks to Dazog.........

Here ya go:

http://www.zinnianet.net/~dnaranjo/Denon1910112R1.rar

Does this link still work?

Anyone else have this firmware available for download?

Yes, anyone have the North America 1.12 firmware for download?

Hmmm. I was looking for an AVS forum singing the praises of the Denon 1910 and only found this one. Reading throught this thread, I must be one of the lucky one. My setup:
Denon 755 (The silver case version of the 1910) Purchased 15 Feb.2005
Firmware 1.08 NTSC, Region 1
DVI Cable out to TV; Digital Optical Out to Receiver, DVI out set to 1080i rez
Sony KP-57WS500 - 57 inch rear projection CRT HDTV
Sony STR-DE845 - 5.1 100 watt/channel receiver

I have absolutely no problems to report, only praise that this unit is a steal at $250. In the initial setup I set the DVI output to 1080i, 16:9 aspect, the native rez & display of my Sony TV. On Superbit DVD's (5th Element, Starship Troopers, etc.) the audio & video is just amazing. As I told a friend, if it gets any better than this, I'll need a younger set of eyes & ears to be able to appreciate it. On standard DVD's, the upconversion looks better than the so called HD movies on HBO or Showtime. I've tried DVD-R's that I have burned with same problem free results. I would say the only issue I've had is on some DVR-R's with original low resolution AVI's converted to DVD, the upconversion show too much "faults" of the original low rez material. Those displayed better at 480p output. I'd never tried 720p output until reading through this forum. I tried it this morning and no problems, but I prefer 1080i.

Perhaps it's the difference of my 755 model (although they're supposed to be identical except for the external case) or the match up with my Sony TV & receiver, or perhaps I have an A/V Guardian Angel looking over my shoulder. In any event, I love my Denon 755.

i agree i to have the 755 hooked up to my toshiba 46crt and it works great

Hi everyone!
Chanced upon this thread from Google, and I had downloaded version 1.12 for my PAL 1910.

The technical support in my country (Singapore) is totally crap, they do not even know the existance of a firmware upgrade for the 1910! The 3910 users in my country had to even escalate the issue to Denon Japan before they were accorded with a firmware update.

Given that how slow things are moving in Singapore, I may take the chance to flash my set, in which it may inevitably void my warranty should anything screw up. By any chance, has anyone encountered any problems with the new MR 1.12 PAL firmware?

Thanks a lot!

I have the Denon 755. How do I find out what firmware version the player has?

anyone have the North America 1.12 firmware for download?

I have the Denon 755. How do I find out what firmware version the player has?

It was posted back on Page 5:

1.) Push 1-2-3-4 and then DISPLAY on your remote.

My Denon 755 indicates it has Firmware 1.08. Apparently 1.12 is the current version. But since I have absolutely no issues with mine, I haven't tried to upgrade - the old saying: "If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it." :p

My first post here; great site with lots of info :cool:

Bought the 1910 last week from BB for $249; have it hooked up to my new mitsu WD-52525 via Monster component and Monster 400 DVI-to-HDMI. Component seems more colorful, while the DVI looks muted, like I'm watching through fog, and is more grainy. When I sit up close (less than 2') I can see a reduction in jaggies while on DVI (720p) vs. component, but at any reasonable distance this improvement is not worth the loss in focus and muted colors...

In addition, WOW the macro-blocking! I didn't even know what macro-blocking was before I bought this player, but I sure am seeing it. Have watched Aviator, Saving Private Ryan, latest West Wing DVDs, Finding Nemo, all have horrendous green blocking in any shaded area.

Macroblocking, graininess, and no real improvement from a $120 DVI cable (and I checked; I have 1.12 firmware already). I'm returning it for a refund.

Question is - now what? Tweeter store has the Sony DVP-NS975V for $299, and I've heard good things about the Panasonic but can't seem to locate that one. Where do I go from here?

Where can I find the firmware update for download?

isnt the new 1920 coming out in a few weeks to replace the 1910?

Is the 1.12 the latest firmware? I already have it, but I wonder is there's a new one.

Thanks

How would we not notice? We have the O.S.P on the forum!
(Outsourcing Secret Police)

You can email Denon support and ask if there will be another firmware.

I dobut it, with the 1920 out.

But its worth a shot, I never emailed them for another firmware after 1.12

NTSC version

Any ideas why I get a MUCH BETTER picture using component vs DVI to HDMI??

Denon DVD 1910
Mits WD62725.

I find this player to be a very bad player using DVI. I wonder if 1920 is as bad?

i have denon 1910, the first unit i bought has macroblocking issues, i looks very bad and i returned it, the second unit did not have any problem at all, i have noticed the firmware on my second unit (1.8) is much older than my first unit (1.12), technically the newer firmware should resolve the problem but it is opposite,
I have tested the first unit on SONY RP LCD and Panyy plasma both tv showed the same macroblocking issue and my second unit is perfect on both TVs. I have connected it to my SONY 55 inch RP LCD works great, animated movies looks very close to HD, i have tested quite a few movies now no macro blocking issues here.

I have just acquired a Denon 1910 and would like to upgrade the firmware to 1.12. The previous download link no longer works. Does anyone still have the upgrade available and willing to share?

Thanks

NTSC version

Any ideas why I get a MUCH BETTER picture using component vs DVI to HDMI??

Denon DVD 1910
Mits WD62725.
Your displays scaler is better than the Denons.

Is there a way to get my NTSC 1910 to play PAL disks??

a couple of questions for all you here.

1. i have a chance to buy this brand new for $70, is it worth it as i will be using only component for the time being.

2. the firmware on it is 1.08, i emailed denon and they said they wont send the newer 1.12 firmware. where could i get this newer firmware upgrade from.

thanks a bunch to all who respond.

Is there a way to get my NTSC 1910 to play PAL disks??

No

a couple of questions for all you here.

1. i have a chance to buy this brand new for $70, is it worth it as i will be using only component for the time being.

2. the firmware on it is 1.08, i emailed denon and they said they wont send the newer 1.12 firmware. where could i get this newer firmware upgrade from.

thanks a bunch to all who respond.

for 70 bucks its not horrible but it has flaws.

and why denon is being this way is no surprise.

One of the reasons I sold this player, no support.

No


Thanx.

Hey guys,

I need the DVD-1910 1.12 firmware for NTSC. Apparently it's MIA, and Denon tech support is giving me the runaround and the original email link that I sent a nice message to is unresponsive...

Any ideas?


--Mike

Can anyone PM me the firmware? No response yet from Denon.

--Mike

Desperate here... I'm getting three-second dropouts with every DVD. Does anyone have the updated firmware before I throw this thing in the garbage?

--Mike
Denver, CO

[link]
REGION FREE 1.12 for PAL players

NOT FOR NTSC Players

if anyone has seen a NTSC Region Free Firmware please PM!

Could anyone describe for me how to burn this strange file format (ab5??) to a cd so that it will work with my Denon 1910?
I would also really appriciate some directions on how to make the update.
I AM aware of the risks involved, just to be clear on that point ;)

From what I have gathered, the file is not an image, but is to be burned on to a cd as a file?
No replies, so I will just try this tonight..

Yay! It worked. I now have firmware v.1.12 and it is region "0", meaning region free. It works like a charm :D

Does anybody still have the NTSC 1.12 firmware lying around that they can share?

(I just ordered an OPPO 971H, but I'd like to get my 1910 up to date before passing it on to my parents.)

Sorry, I have the CD with firmware 1.12 on it somewhere here in the house, wish I could find it and send it to ya, but chances are bad that I locate it :rolleyes:

Anyhow, have had this player for 2 1/2 years now, absolutely no regrets. People over watching movies here always comment "Is this hi def? It looks really good!" and the only issue I notice is the layer switch (wow, <2 second pause on some DVDs half way into the movie, big deal). FYI i use a DVI-to-HDMI cable with 720p output, and spent a long while with the AVIA disc setting up my picture when I first got the player and my current Toshiba set.

Popped in Finding Nemo again the other day and it looks excellent. The "macroblocking" or other artifacts look no worse than other players I've seen around in friends' homes or stores (then again I haven't recently seen playback of this or other movies on expensive players that some of u folks swear by).

I'll certainly be keeping the 1910 till my next A/V upgrade (including future 1080p 60+ inch RP set). Great and reliable product for the money. Prolly will get something that's been critically-acclaimed by you lot...prolly $$$ :D

I've had this player for 2 years now. I just read about the shaking in the opening of Star Wars. I always thought it was the movie... But now I read its the player.

Is the upgrade firmware posted on a file share site? Denon says it is unavaliable. (for some reason). Is it on Limewire or some file sharing network?

Also does this new firmware fix the slight green push and gamma problems?

Jake

Which Star Wars do you refer to? I just recently watched episodes 4, 5, and 6, no issue as you describe @ opener. But, I *do* have the 1.12 firmware update.

Which Star Wars do you refer to? I just recently watched episodes 4, 5, and 6, no issue as you describe @ opener. But, I *do* have the 1.12 firmware update.

It was Ep 1 after it was brought to my attention. Not bad , but it does look unstable.

How did you get the firmware? I tryed Denon CS but they were very unhelpful.

Also does this new firmware fix the slight green push and gamma problems?
How did you get the firmware? I tryed Denon CS but they were very unhelpful.
I, for one, acquired the firmware update 1.12 disc early last year directly from Denon Customer Service...and no, it definitely did NOT correct the green push. Nor did it do anything for the hideous macroblocking and gamma noise. In fact, I'm really not sure what v1.12 supposedly fixed. :mad: Picture quality via the DVI output (both 480p AND upconverted 720p/1080i) looks positively horrendous even after applying the update, which the player itself confirmed as having been installed properly. :eek: Even 480p over component looks unsatisfactory, though not nearly as bad as DVI. 480i over component, however, is another story. The picture is VERY clean and stable. So I send component 480i into a DVDO iScan Pro progressive scaler which is then upconverted to 720p by my Toshiba DLP. The results are fabulous. The only reason I didn't give up on this player was because of the sound. Its Burr-Brown analog outputs are prestine and provide fantastic CD and PCM DVD playback. :D Besides, I only paid $40 for it brand-new. (Some poor sap over-extended himself and needed cash; he didn't completely realize what he had and practically gave it away before even opening the box. Lucky me...I suppose. :rolleyes: ) Anyway, since I found a workaround with equipment already owned (the iScan), it doesn't feel like I'm owning it totally for naught. With sporatic exceptions, I think by now it's pretty clear that the Faroudja chip in these players were never designed properly (or had defects in manufacturing), and thus is responsible for the video anomalies, including the green push and severe macroblocking.

Well the green push and macroblocking I have to a bare minimum. I calibrated my set well enough, that when friends come ove to watch movies , they thing the picture is awsome. But you know how us tweekers can be about Pq and Sq (never satisfied).

Any ways, besides the unstableness at the begining of SW TPM, picture seems pretty decent. I just though the firmware was availiable somehwere on the internet.,.

Well the green push and macroblocking I have to a bare minimum. I calibrated my set well enough, that when friends come ove to watch movies , they thing the picture is awsome. But you know how us tweekers can be about Pq and Sq (never satisfied).

Any ways, besides the unstableness at the begining of SW TPM, picture seems pretty decent. I just though the firmware was availiable somehwere on the internet.,.
Well, my set was ISF-calibrated for both the 480p (via 1910 w/iScan Pro scaler) and 720p/1080i (via Toshiba HD-A1) inputs. No way was I going to start my calibration off with the 1910 reflecting green and macroblocking the way it had been. For me, at the end of the day there shouldn't be any player anomalies, at least not to that degree. It's just inexcusable to me for a product like that to be unleashed on the buying public. I guess the severity of the 1910's issues varies from player to player. For instance, though I had green haze/MB issues, I didn't have any picture stability issues. So I guess with the 1910 it's a crap-shoot. The thing about the so-called green push is interesting: There really isn't any amount of real calibration per se that will solve it in that it isn't as though the color green is "accentuated." The picture had an overall green haze over it, which isn't the same thing. When green is isolated and tweeked on the TV, what ends up happening is that the balance for ALL green is desaturated whereby the haze still lingers. (If you switch between the DVI 720p/1080i and component 480i outputs, you'll see what I mean.) Though it does help in minimizing its affects, the overall color balance is knocked off kilter. So my ISF rep chose to bypass the 1910's internal progressive scanner/deinterlacer for maximum results. And boy am I glad he did, as the difference was striking.

That said, perhaps you'll have better results with the firmware updates than I did. I'm sure I have the disc around here somewhere. If you PM me your email address, I'd be more than happy to send you a copy of the disc's contents once I dig it up. I don't believe the file is all that large, but I'll have to confirm that. :)

My Mit was also ISF calibrated. What I did was I wrote down the Isf calibrations in the service menu. Then did minor adjustments via service menu for the player. When I purchase a new player, I will just put back the ISF settings. The minor setting change I did, doesnt affect the picture to a point where the colors are bad, but it did knock down the green tint in the dark areas a tad.

I so appreciate the offer. Is there a way you could email the file? Or would you prefer to mail it?

I calibrated my Toshiba 52 inch DLP myself. Tried the best I could. Anyhow, I have no issues with my 1910 outputing 720p upconverted signal, over DVI. Green push, macroblocking, I really don't see much at all to be an issue. I've seen many movies now on it, no issues, and it looks really good, seriously. The upconverting is not hype: It really does look close to hi-def, and ppl always comment how clear the movie is compared to where they've seen it elsewhere.

As for the audio, can't comment cuz I use fiber optic.

For the price, a GREAT player. Sure, if i was to buy one now, I'd get the Oppo, but my 1910 has been with me since Sept 2004 :)

Oh, jakelm, I got the 1.12 update a long time ago, when it first came out. I downloaded it off a link that someone on avsforum provided, and then also to be sure, called Denon and asked to have a CD shipped to me (free btw) containing the update. After I confirmed both were identical I was satisfied. The CD is somewhere in my house, but it's a mess in the storage! Argh I can probably find a pig flying before I find that CD :confused:

My Mit was also ISF calibrated. What I did was I wrote down the Isf calibrations in the service menu. Then did minor adjustments via service menu for the player. When I purchase a new player, I will just put back the ISF settings. The minor setting change I did, doesnt affect the picture to a point where the colors are bad, but it did knock down the green tint in the dark areas a tad.

I so appreciate the offer. Is there a way you could email the file? Or would you prefer to mail it?
My previous HDTV was a 1080i Mits CRT RPTV, and they are great sets to calibrate. My Tosh 52HM95, though a slightly higher calibre set than my previous (save for black levels), doesn't calibrate quite as effortlessly. So rather than have to re-adjust the 480p settings down the line post-1910, I had the set calibrated via the iScan's 480p output since I also switch the 1910 between an SD TiVo STB and a laserdisc player (yea, I still got mine! *lol*).

Check your PMs, jake...I sent you a note regarding the firmware update. :)