Oops...... :eek:

You are correct....!

My slightly addled brain was thinking about the HDMI to DVI connector that came with my Oppo..... I am actually using the cable for my HDTivo... I knew I remembered plugging it in, just forgot which piece of equipment it was plugged into.

I have not noticed the lip synch issue......... so I am wondering how I check to see if mine has the latest firmware upgrade...? I just received it from Oppo about a month ago.

Oops...... :eek:

You are correct....!

My slightly addled brain was thinking about the HDMI to DVI connector that came with my Oppo..... I am actually using the cable for my HDTivo... I knew I remembered plugging it in, just forgot which piece of equipment it was plugged into.

I have not noticed the lip synch issue......... so I am wondering how I check to see if mine has the latest firmware upgrade...? I just received it from Oppo about a month ago. Players shipped on or after June 30, 2005 come with the latest firmware version (OP971-8-0628)

Q : How do I find out the firmware version of the OPDV971H DVD player?
A : Do the following to find out the firmware version:
• Press Setup on the remote controller
• Enter 9210 on the remote controller
• A menu will pop up to show the firmware version of the OPPO player.

Subtitles in movies like Star Wars and Hildago are inherent in the movie. That is why the font is different then the players. In lord of the rings I have played that movie on many diffrerent players and the elfish scenes the subtiltles are the exact font and color. They are encoded in the movie. So I am confused on the issue some people are having with those movies.

Subtitles in movies like Star Wars and Hildago are inherent in the movie. That is why the font is different then the players. In lord of the rings I have played that movie on many diffrerent players and the elfish scenes the subtiltles are the exact font and color. They are encoded in the movie. So I am confused on the issue some people are having with those movies.Subtitles for brief foreign dialog in Star Wars and Hildago are not printed on the film image. They come as a subtitle option for the player to handle.

1. Audio sync- seems to lose sync in every movie to some extent. I've tried using the audio delay feature, but it doesn't seem to help, since it's not a constant sync problem- eg. it drifts.The Faroudja lip-sync problem never drifts. Once it goes out of sync, it stays that way until you stop and resume play. If its drifting, the problem is on the disk. You'd be surprised how many DVD's have that problem.
I don't remember OPPO ever responding to the full panel issue on pront projectors, just lots of comments from the forum members. Are they aware of this problem, or should I shoot their tech support an email about it to get it on the radar?If the issue is in the defect list, Oppo is already aware of it.

I had a problem occur with my Pana 700 one day after hooking up the oppo to it via HDMI with the oppo supplied cable. The projector went in for repairs and a globe was replaced first then a "ballast" board both to no avail. The PJ is now being replaced with a new one from Panasonic and I am worried the new one could die if there are rouge signals comming into the HDMI port from the Oppo - I realise this may be unjustified but the fact that the failure came soon after hooking up the oppo worries me. I have been without a projector for two months (ahrrg!!) and using s-video to my 80cm TV from the oppo in the mean time. One thought I had was that the signal strength/intensity may have been enough to cause the existing fault in the projector to emerge fully - that is the fault was indeed with the projector and the oppo just pushed it over the edge. I have 1350 hours on the PJ prior to this incedent.

The fault. The projector just shut down right in the middle of watching a movie. I had already watched a couple of movies and calibrated the projector with DVE prior to the failure. The Pana would cycle on and off with the standby light going from green to amber to red, eventually the Pana would stay off completely. The fault is intermittent in nature and at the repair shop would sometimes not come on at all, I called in to see how it was going and the tech said it seemed to be ok but when he fired it up with me there it failed.

Anyone see anything like this? Should I be looking at the HDMI output from the oppo to check levels are within spec? Should I be concerned when I hook up the new PJ?

Any help advice apprieciated - I get my new PJ next week

Subtitles in movies like Star Wars and Hildago are inherent in the movie. That is why the font is different then the players. In lord of the rings I have played that movie on many diffrerent players and the elfish scenes the subtiltles are the exact font and color. They are encoded in the movie. So I am confused on the issue some people are having with those movies.

I think subtitles are encoded as overlays, so the font is built into the subtitle but the player can still choose which subtitles to display (if any).

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Steve

A Spiderman sample with my Oppo at 720p feeding a Sony KDF-55WF655 through HDMI....

Possibly based on this picture there will be people who will write things like "wow, simply jaw dropping", "see Oppo is a great DVD player", "wow, what a difference with HDMI". :)

Really, I have no idea what you are trying to demonstrate with this picture. :confused:

The picture is way to small to be of any use. When magnified it reveals the pixel structure of the camera not the pixels of the display device.

Players shipped on or after June 30, 2005 come with the latest firmware version (OP971-8-0628)


Interesting........

Mine is 971-9-0628B

Wow, jaw dropping PQ, especially for a 37 kb picture size.

Is it a little too much red?

Is it a little too much red?
While I admittedly have NO eye compared to many for pic quality...

I thought the same thing.

I was tweaking up the display today.. did not finish when I did the pix..yes, it's too hot... I have the color trimmed in now..will post a repeat tomorrow (and larger).
I don't even think Spiderman is that great a DVD for video quality. It's 'good' but not memorable. But everything looks quite decent on the Oppo and sometimes very good!

Based on this great thread, and my desire to consolidate my R1 Pioneer 578a and JVC all-region 500BK into one great all-region player (thus freeing up a set of component inputs in the process), I ordered an Oppo which will be delivered by next Monday. I just wanted to verify that this unit can still be made all-region if it doesn't already arrive that way. By the way, would anyone care to comment if I will see an overall increase in PQ and sound (I'm using a Toshiba 46H84 w/HDMI input)? I'm not worried about DVD-A or SACD, since I'll continue to use my Pioneer 563 for that. One final question: I gather from reading this thread that I would want to upconvert to 1080i since that is what my Tosh's native display is, correct?

Can't wait and thanks in advance,
Ted

I amazes me when people list Spider-man 1 & 2 as examples of good picture quality because I think even the superbits are a mess. I caught 2 on HBO the other night and the PQ was unimpressive as well. I think it's the film grain, but it just looks wrong.

Based on this great thread, and my desire to consolidate my R1 Pioneer 578a and JVC all-region 500BK into one great all-region player (thus freeing up a set of component inputs in the process), I ordered an Oppo which will be delivered by next Monday. I just wanted to verify that this unit can still be made all-region if it doesn't already arrive that way.
Ted

Don't worry, the Oppo though it no longer is delivered region-free, is easily changed to region-free.

I amazes me when people list Spider-man 1 & 2 as examples of good picture quality because I think even the superbits are a mess. I caught 2 on HBO the other night and the PQ was unimpressive as well. I think it's the film grain, but it just looks wrong.

Frankly I've been disappointed in the reproduction of more than one major movie. It does not seem like it was always that way. As if the quality is gradually falling off in recent years.
Unless, our more sophisticated displays reveal more discrepancies, combined with us becoming more critical in our expectations.

So, with almost 3500 posts in this thread... is there an "oppo for dummies" guide? A quick list of what to do / what settings are considered best (or worth experimenting with)?


Thanks to anyone that can paraphrase or point to a summary of 100+ pages of information here...
i'd love to see some type of guide as well? anybody got a link?

Am I the only one that would like to have the option of displaying the playing bitrate on the Oppo? Anyone know if it is available on the Panny S97/77?

Am I the only one that would like to have the option of displaying the playing bitrate on the Oppo? Anyone know if it is available on the Panny S97/77?
I don't see any interest in that.

I would 10.000x more prefer them to enable 2:2 cadence flag support.

I was under the impression that the Oppo just barely failed the 2:2 test. I don't have PAL discs, but I could see this would be important to those that do.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=560339

Does anyone know if the warranties are transferable on the Oppo? I'm thinking of buying a used one.

Am I the only one that would like to have the option of displaying the playing bitrate on the Oppo? Anyone know if it is available on the Panny S97/77?

Panny S97 offers bitrate meter. Don't have the S77.

Panny S97 offers bitrate meter. Don't have the S77.

The S77 has a bit rate meter. It's buried on the menus, not in the setup. I don't have mine anymore, so I can't advise on how to access it. If I recall, it is either on or off, activated through the menus. You can't just randomly check the rates.

The S77 has a bit rate meter. It's buried on the menus, not in the setup. I don't have mine anymore, so I can't advise on how to access it. If I recall, it is either on or off, activated through the menus. You can't just randomly check the rates.


That works for me, as long as it is available. I just like to see the numbers every once in a while, even if they don't really mean anything on their own. ;-)

This should be a tad better....

This should be a tad better....

Your colors are still off. Her face is still too pink and her eyes are glowing blue.

It's kinda scary.

Your colors are still off. Her face is still too pink and her eyes are glowing blue.

It's kinda scary.

Try as I might, I can't replicate the color with my cam. It just doesn't do it justice.
In reality her cheeks and general complexion are rosier...a deeper color not as pink...I even tried editing it to match ...but a basic program not PS, etc.

This is closer to the real thing, not quite as scary also... ;)

You've done a good job of capturing the clarity of the Oppo's PQ.

You've done a good job of capturing the clarity of the Oppo's PQ.

Thnaks, I tried. And to think it's even better than it looks here.... :)

Try as I might, I can't replicate the color with my cam. It just doesn't do it justice.
In reality her cheeks and general complexion are rosier...a deeper color not as pink...I even tried editing it to match ...but a basic program not PS, etc.

Digital cameras can't do accurate color reproduction.

Digital cameras can't do accurate color reproduction.

Please dont tell that to any of my clients who pay me to produce images from a "Digital camera" :rolleyes:

Please dont tell that to any of my clients who pay me to produce images from a "Digital camera" :rolleyes:

Like many low to medium priced consumer cams, they are at their best in brightly lit indoor or outdoor daylight situations. Your clients should know that too, as should you. :)

For those of you with extra cash, Boulder Cable is offering an upgrade to the Oppo for both video and audio. The mods are supposedly approved by oppo. A bit pricey, but I've heard good things about their previous mods. You can find out more here (http://www.boldercables.com/Store.asp?m=TheBolderCableCompany&n=10&k=136501&s=+MODIFICATIONS).

For those of you with extra cash, Boulder Cable is offering an upgrade to the Oppo for both video and audio. The mods are supposedly approved by oppo. A bit pricey, but I've heard good things about their previous mods. You can find out more here (http://www.boldercables.com/Store.asp?m=TheBolderCableCompany&n=10&k=136501&s=+MODIFICATIONS).

MY GOODNESS. Those mods better be worth it! If only it would fix macroblocking and lip sync problems. :)

Not to say the mods do not work, but the cost is quite high. I had similar mods (power and analog section) done on an old Pioneer DV-525 player some years ago, a different company. They added about 20% in noticeable improvments in my estimation. And the total cost was $200. I paid $250 for the player at that time.
For $900 ($1100 with the player) you should be able to get similar performance from a better player (Denon, Pioneer, etc.), plus a better mechanical build, not to mention a better looking player.

For those of you with extra cash, Boulder Cable is offering an upgrade to the Oppo for both video and audio. The mods are supposedly approved by oppo. A bit pricey, but I've heard good things about their previous mods. You can find out more here (http://www.boldercables.com/Store.asp?m=TheBolderCableCompany&n=10&k=136501&s=+MODIFICATIONS).

I did some tipster mods once. Heavy lead tape was used. (Isolation and dampening) We taped pieces of the lead tape to each chip, plus painted the inside flat black, we painted the lead tape also. Results, who knows :)

I did some tipster mods once. Heavy lead tape was used. (Isolation and dampening) We taped pieces of the lead tape to each chip, plus painted the inside flat black, we painted the lead tape also. Results, who knows :)

Sorbothane does the same thing. It's a rubbery substance that comes in sheets.
And it's already black. Probably does not as a much to the 'heft' as the lead though. :rolleyes:

Like many low to medium priced consumer cams, they are at their best in brightly lit indoor or outdoor daylight situations. Your clients should know that too, as should you. :)

I assume you're talking about white balance. There are various tools like grey cards and the expodisc that can let you get an accurate white balance in various lighting conditions. There are also elaborate color profiling systems for calibrating color between various different type of displays and printers.

The problem is that very few people here are going to be viewing the screenshot in a calibrated environment. So even if the image itself has accurate colors, everyone on the forum might see different colors from the same image on their monitors. Under Windows, even if you've calibrated your monitor and generated an ICC profile your web browser will just ignore it. You have to view the image in Photoshop or another program that knows about color profiles.

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Steve

Ciao OPPO! for now....
After sending in my original player along with a copy of waterboy and receiving a "new" player back form oppo; the veredict remains the same! LIP SYNC remains unresolved and who knows when they'll fix it. according to cust service at oppo, many customers returning their players have asked to be put on a "call back" list for the time when those issues are resolved. now I just hope to have a smooth credit experience with them. in the mean time I'll try the panny S97.... hopefully oppo can get it right once and for all.

Your colors are still off. Her face is still too pink and her eyes are glowing blue.

It's kinda scary.

Videoaddict,
I think they're telling you the grayscale for DVI is off. That Sony should have adjustments for RGB-contrast and RGB-brightness. If you can find them use this info -

"Some tuning tips for all displays that have advance RGB-adjustments for grayscale.

After making tuning changes with Avia take a look at the Avia Needle Pulse pattern to see that there's no color tints in the Gray to White steps in the upper part of the pattern. The Pluge pattern also in Avia called Black Bars+ Log Steps. It's found under Video Test Patterns/Gray Scale & Levels/Black & White levels -

If it's not dead on grays to white make final changes with the user advanced adjustments.


Example - you see red/pink tint in the light gray/white.
R-contrast -2
G-contrast +2
B-contrast +2

If you see green in the dark grays/black
R-brightness +2
G-brightness -2
B-brightness +2

You see how it works, color in the light grays you use the RGB-contrasts

Color in the dark grays you use the RGB-brightness to fix.
enjoy and get good at it, can really make a huge difference "

Also I would start by first deleting the color you need until it's out of the grays. Lets say it took 8 clicks minus on the red to get there. Instead of leaving this make it just 4 clicks and inturn add four clicks more to the Blue & Green for better balance. "

By looking at your picture my guess is you'll see some red in the high end of the grayscale, brighter shades of gray.

I assume you're talking about white balance. There are various tools like grey cards and the expodisc that can let you get an accurate white balance in various lighting conditions. There are also elaborate color profiling systems for calibrating color between various different type of displays and printers.

The problem is that very few people here are going to be viewing the screenshot in a calibrated environment. So even if the image itself has accurate colors, everyone on the forum might see different colors from the same image on their monitors. Under Windows, even if you've calibrated your monitor and generated an ICC profile your web browser will just ignore it. You have to view the image in Photoshop or another program that knows about color profiles.

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Steve

I agree, taking the photo in the proper environment is key. As is the representation on the monitor when editing it, which requires a more sophisticated program than Photo Essentials, etc.
Compounding this, the accuracy of most consumer digicams falls off rapidly under less than ideal (ie; point and shoot) lighting conditions.
And as you state, in the end, the accuracy is also in the eye (or monitor) of the viewer.

For those of you with extra cash, Boulder Cable is offering an upgrade to the Oppo for both video and audio. The mods are supposedly approved by oppo. A bit pricey, but I've heard good things about their previous mods. You can find out more here (http://www.boldercables.com/Store.asp?m=TheBolderCableCompany&n=10&k=136501&s=+MODIFICATIONS).

Forget about the mods, what is needed is firmware that would address the problem of the x1 picture not covering the whole screen and leaving some unlit pixels (about 1/3 in all arount the image. I have a 42 plasma and this is going to improperly burn if this is not fixed soon. Is Oppo working on this?? If not I will return it

I don't see this. I connected it to my Samsung 61" 1080P set and a 26" 720P Olevia LCD set.

Please dont tell that to any of my clients who pay me to produce images from a "Digital camera" :rolleyes:

I won't. When we do product pics of food for marketing, our photogs use digital to get examples of the set up to show, then go to 35mm for the actual pics. I don't know what you take pics of, but getting the correct oranges, browns and reds for food products you're used to seeing in real life is impossible with a digital camera. :rolleyes:

Whoa - talk about flamebait...many professional photographers would disagree with you.

I'm holding off getting an Oppo until the lipsync issues are fixed, BTW.

Forget about the mods, what is needed is firmware that would address the problem of the x1 picture not covering the whole screen and leaving some unlit pixels (about 1/3 in all arount the image. I have a 42 plasma and this is going to improperly burn if this is not fixed soon. Is Oppo working on this?? If not I will return it

This the reply I got from Oppo. I will wait for the cure. Hope is coming soon.

"We are seriously looking into including custom resolutions in the
future. Right now, all output is 1:1 mapped to the DVD encode, and ot
the television set. We are looking into ways of incorporating 1366x768
and other common aspect ratios in a future firmware update."

WOULD THE ABOVE SOLVE THE PROBLEM

For those of you with extra cash, Boulder Cable is offering an upgrade to the Oppo for both video and audio. The mods are supposedly approved by oppo. A bit pricey, but I've heard good things about their previous mods. You can find out more here (http://www.boldercables.com/Store.asp?m=TheBolderCableCompany&n=10&k=136501&s=+MODIFICATIONS).
Oh dear, I just finished what they have to offer upgrading an Oppo ranging from $400 to $1,000 (note the Oppo costs around $200). :rolleyes:

Looks like just about the right snakeoil for the gullible Oppo fan.
I just can't wait for reports on the jaw dropping improved visuals with the slipstream quantum purifier for only $500. :rolleyes:

I have zero lip sync problems with my setup and zero pixel crop. I did ask Oppo to add 854X480 for the H31 and 4805 owners. I would be great if they could cover this highly used pixel layout.

"We are seriously looking into including custom resolutions in the
future. Right now, all output is 1:1 mapped to the DVD encode, and ot
the television set. We are looking into ways of incorporating 1366x768
and other common aspect ratios in a future firmware update."

YES !
YES YES YES !!!

I am going to contact them be sure they will allow custom refresh rates as well.

Does anyone know when the next firmware update will be coming? I wonder if Oppo will continue to support this player when their new HDMI model comes out?

I have zero lip sync problems with my setup and zero pixel crop. I did ask Oppo to add 854X480 for the H31 and 4805 owners. I would be great if they could cover this highly used pixel layout.

guitarman,

So for you, the OPPO fills the entire H31 panel, and is centered? Most of us with PJ's are experiencing slight black bars- I don't think it's a pixel cropping problem, but a threshhold or timing issue. On the 4805 those options go away under DVI- I could fix the problem if I had access to those controls.

I also have a bit of lip sync in almost every movie I watch, so I hope that gets fixed.

Obviously a 854x480 pixel map for us would be totally incredible, so I'll continue to hold my breath.

That said, I still really enjoy the OPPO, and am keeping it in my setup.

Wes

Does anyone know when the next firmware update will be coming? I wonder if Oppo will continue to support this player when their new HDMI model comes out?
Why oh why are they coming out with an HDMI model??? All that will mean is that it will now include HDCP.... and all the problems and issues that involves. BAD, BAD MOVE OPPO! :(

The DVI model should have been HDCP compliant also. But HDMI is capable of being 8bit , 10 bit or 12 bit while DVI is only 8bit.

I thought it had been mentioned in this thread numerous times that the HDMI model was just a rumor.

No official announcement for an HDMI player that I'm aware of, but it would be foolish to release another model without it. If Oppo intends to stay in this market, they'll have to keep up. The lack of HDMI is one of the primary reasons why I passed on the current Oppo model.

HDMI will also pass multichannel DVD-A signals at full resolution.

No official announcement for an HDMI player that I'm aware of, but it would be foolish to release another model without it. If Oppo intends to stay in this market, they'll have to keep up. The lack of HDMI is one of the primary reasons why I passed on the current Oppo model.

HDMI will also pass multichannel DVD-A signals at full resolution.

I'm sure they'll have one or two out within the next 5 years. :)

I'm sure they'll have one or two out within the next 5 years. :)

Maybe a budget HD DVD player by then.....?

Whoa - talk about flamebait...many professional photographers would disagree with you.

I'm holding off getting an Oppo until the lipsync issues are fixed, BTW.

Not meant to be at all. Just relaying what our photogs do and why. If someone disagrees, and this is wrong, then that's all well and good.

Hopefully this won't get any more off topic than it already is. If anyone feels the need to complain though, please take pics of a bowl of BBQ chips and a bowl of Cheetos, then see if they match exactly. If they do, please email or PM what equipment you are using so I can pass the info along.

Back on topic:

Does anyone know anything about the small HT system Oppo is also selling? How's the PQ, and does it have sync issues also?

I won't. When we do product pics of food for marketing, our photogs use digital to get examples of the set up to show, then go to 35mm for the actual pics. I don't know what you take pics of, but getting the correct oranges, browns and reds for food products you're used to seeing in real life is impossible with a digital camera. :rolleyes:

I'll bet those film pictures are then scanned with a digital scanner and printed on digital printers.

Digital cameras are capable of producing much more accurate color than film (with the proper color profiles), but some people like the INaccuracy that specific film emulsions (like Velvia) provide. Negative film also has some advantages in terms of dynamic range and film comes in larger formats so you can have more depth of field control and use big cameras with tilt and shift movements, etc.

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Steve

Does anyone know anything about the small HT system Oppo is also selling? How's the PQ, and does it have sync issues also?

It doesn't use faroudja so I doubt sync issues would be a problem. Hopefully the component 480i output would be better than the Oppo (as people have complained about). It seems like it does do 480p over component, so I imagine it would perform similarly like the pioneer 588, which uses the same mediatek chip. And it probably does not pass BTB but is motion adaptive.

An email to Oppo would probably give you more information on how it performs.

Does anyone know when the next firmware update will be coming? I wonder if Oppo will continue to support this player when their new HDMI model comes out?There goes that rumor again! Oppo doesn't know about any new HDMI player, so how does everybody else?

Does anyone know anything about the small HT system Oppo is also selling? How's the PQ, and does it have sync issues also?Yes, I have one, and it works really well. See my brief review here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5339478&&#post5339478).

No lip sync issues (no Faroudja, as Ja Phule mentioned). The component color output is even, unlike the Oppo's component output (currently). But I don't recall testing for "Blacker-than-Black". Both the 480i and 480p outputs looked excellent.

OK,,,, I Finally Bought my Oppo from Amazon, Gets here tomorrow.

Any suggestions for when It first gets here?

Where can I find the Firmware date?

I will be hooking it up to a BenQ PE8700+ via DVI cable.

Are there some default settings in the Oppo I should change before I calibrate using AVIA?

Set the brightness to 5, everybody s/b setting the brightness to 5, leave contrast and saturation at zero also.

Brightness at 5 puts you at the correct black level 16/16/16 according to an ISF buddy of mine who checked it with and Accupel 3000 signal generator.

guitarman,

So for you, the OPPO fills the entire H31 panel, and is centered? Most of us with PJ's are experiencing slight black bars- I don't think it's a pixel cropping problem, but a threshhold or timing issue. On the 4805 those options go away under DVI- I could fix the problem if I had access to those controls.

I also have a bit of lip sync in almost every movie I watch, so I hope that gets fixed.

Obviously a 854x480 pixel map for us would be totally incredible, so I'll continue to hold my breath.

That said, I still really enjoy the OPPO, and am keeping it in my setup.

Wes

I sent my H31 test machine back to Optoma but they're sending me a DV10 Movietime which I should get tomorrow, same chip I'll hook the Oppo up and let u know.

Renaldow, At the risk of keeping off topic, most reviews of both the Canon 1DS MK 2 and the Canon 20D have pointed out that the colors have higher accuracy than any film emulsion. I would have thought for advertising purposes that the photogs would use a medium format camera rather than a 35mm. To get the best color on a digital you have to shoot in raw format and many of the digicams either do not allow you to save that format, or are virtually unuseable when trying to shoot raw because they are so slow.

The digitals will not give you the oversaturated results of velvia film out of the box. As Kanefsky pointed out a lot of people like the unnatural look of Velvia.

Thanks for the reply Guitarman. Its been a long time waiting to get a upconverting DVD player.

I have been holding off buying a upconverting DVD player for a year now and I hope this was a good choice.

I have been following this thread from the beginning, and after seeing Oppos customer support and updates to the firmware, I am confident that I am better off buying this product than the other big name guys who don't provide any support.

Don't know if this helps or hurts, but I pinged Oppo again on the custom resolutions (I would like 1280x768 for a 50" Pio plasma) and this is the response I received.

We have sent the request to our engineers. There is no current timetable as to when they will be available, if at all.

Best Regards,

Customer Service

I sent my H31 test machine back to Optoma but they're sending me a DV10 Movietime which I should get tomorrow, same chip I'll hook the Oppo up and let u know.

I just calibrated an H31 a few days ago with an Oppo and there was no problem with the image filling the panel. Of course, it doesn't do it when the "Oppo" logo is up, but during DVD playback it was fine.

Regarding the mods link I posted earlier, it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, but what would be nice is a low cost analog audio upgrade. The Oppo uses really basic 4558 dual op-amps and for those of us who use it for DVD-A playback, an audio upgrade would be nice.

Where can I find the Firmware date?


Push Setup, followed by 9-2-1-0.

I have had my Oppo player for about five months, and I have been
very impressed with its performance. However, I have experienced one
rather strange problem that I thought I would report on.

I have a number of DVDs which I recorded on a standalone Go Video VR3840.
When played on the Oppo they all exhibit a strange phenomenon where
about every 45 seconds to a minute,
the image slows down to a complete stop for about
0.75 seconds. The audio continues normally. Then,
the image will suddenly speed forward at a very fast rate until
it has resynchronized with the audio stream. This
occurs regardless of what video output format I
use (Svideo, DVI interlaced, DVI progressive).

This does not occur when these DVDs are played in any other player (for
example, in my Denon DVD 1910.

I have been in communication with Oppo on this for a number of
months. I must say, they are one of the most responsive and
pleasant companies I've ever dealt with. I even sent them a few
sample DVDs for them to test. They were able to duplicate the problem.

The most recent firmware upgrade did not affect the problem. After installing
it, I pinged Oppo technical support again, and their response was:

"We have not heard from the engineers yet, but your problem seems to be
universal in regards to standalone DVD burner users who happen to own
the 971H as well. We received some other discs from Sony and Toshiba
standalone DVD burner owners, and they exhibit the same slow down,
pausing, and speeding up. The same users also created the same content
on their PC, with no problems at all.

We suspect that standalone DVD burners do not properly master DVDs,
which causes our player problems. We will hopefully find a fix in the
future that we can extend to you."

Thus, the problem persists for the time being. Hopefully a fix will
be forthcoming in a future firmware release. In the meantime, I have
recalled the Denon back into service for these DVDs.

Has anyone experienced anything similar?

I have had my Oppo player for about five months, and I have been very impressed with its performance. However, I have experienced one rather strange problem that I thought I would report on.

I have a number of DVDs which I recorded on a standalone Go Video VR3840.
When played on the Oppo they all exhibit a strange phenomenon where about every 45 seconds to a minute, the image slows down to a complete stop for about
0.75 seconds. The audio continues normally. Then, the image will suddenly speed forward at a very fast rate until it has resynchronized with the audio stream. This occurs regardless of what video output format I use (Svideo, DVI interlaced, DVI progressive).

Has anyone experienced anything similar?Yes... Rickie had a similar problem with an Emerson DVR, reported here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5921012&&#post5921012).

Also see my response here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5922377&&#post5922377), which aligns with Oppo's observations.

Yes... Rickie had a similar problem with an Emerson DVR, reported ]here[/url][/b].

Also see my response 377]here[/url][/b], which aligns with Oppo's observations.

Ah, interesting; thank you very much. I had done some searching,
but had not located those posts.

It seems the problem affects a wider variety of standalone burners. Oppo's
seems to be pretty good about fixing problems, so hopefully they will be
able to address it.

It's actually amusingly annoying to see the phenomenon. But to watch an
entire movie filled with it becomes pretty intolerable.

Interesting problem, Yog - I wonder if this is related to the lipsync issues people are having? I wouldn't be surprised if it is the same thing, actually. Hmmm, the problems remind me of lipsync issues that I (and other people) used to have with HTPCs'...it seems the newer videocards/drivers/decoders have pretty much solved the issue, as I haven't had a lipsync issue in over a year now on my HTPC...with the exception of playing HD content (mpeg2 HD transport streams).

Ah, interesting; thank you very much. I had done some searching,
but had not located those posts.

It seems the problem affects a wider variety of standalone burners. Oppo's
seems to be pretty good about fixing problems, so hopefully they will be
able to address it.

It's actually amusingly annoying to see the phenomenon. But to watch an
entire movie filled with it becomes pretty intolerable.


I've also been in touch with OPPO, and they are looking at DVDs. I told them no big rush, since they have other thing on their plate. I had not heard others with this problem here, but after my posts, I had a couple of private messages, and a response on anothr board from an owner of a pioneer 420, I think it was. It sounds like it's a lot more widespread than I thought.

In any event, I still have y other DVD player connected (an ONKYO), but I actually find I still prefer watching my standalone recorded DVDs on the OPPO, it gives a much better pic.

I should be getting a FW update from Funai (Emerson) for the recorder, as I also contacted them. However, they didnt' really sound very helpful, and the firmware update is actually to address something else.

I'll post if I get any resolution in any event. (and I'm glad I got some responses from others since I was almost ready to go out and buy another recorder to 'fix' it -- I think now I'll wait a bit)

And yes, I agree, OPPO support has been pretty good so far, and I"m still pretty happy with my unit. I would certainly buy OPPO products in future, based on their continued aftermarket support alone. (Besides, the OPPO 971 does give me a much better pic for my system).

Rick

Interesting problem, Yog - I wonder if this is related to the lipsync issues people are having? I wouldn't be surprised if it is the same thing, actually. Hmmm, the problems remind me of lipsync issues that I (and other people) used to have with HTPCs'...it seems the newer videocards/drivers/decoders have pretty much solved the issue, as I haven't had a lipsync issue in over a year now on my HTPC...with the exception of playing HD content (mpeg2 HD transport streams).

I have considered that also, but there is one mitigating factor that leads
me to believe it is related to the mastering.

I too have had the lip sync issue on rare occasions. It seems to occur in a non-deterministic
manner, leading me to believe it is related to buffering issues.

The problem with the recorded DVDs though is 100% repeatable. Although it
appears to occur at seemingly random spots on each disc, it happens repeatedly in
exactlty the same spots on any particualar disc. It happens every time the disc
is played, and in the same places.

I'd be really curious to understand the cause!

It sounds like it's a lot more widespread than I thought.
I should be getting a FW update from Funai (Emerson) for the recorder, as I also contacted them. However, they didnt' really sound very helpful, and the firmware update is actually to address something else.
Rick

Yeah, it does seem to be more widespread.

Oppo asked if I would be willing to act as a consumer liason with Go Video to do
what you have done above. I'm willing to, but hesitant for exactly the reason you've
detailed. If there were some way to get contacts from each company to talk with
each other directly on the issue, that would be helpful. But, as you've said, with a second
DVD player I'm willing to be patient.

With it being more widspread, perhaps it will rise higher on their list (although I agree
that other problems -- such as audio sync -- are more important).

Tom

I just received my Oppo and calibrated it tonight with DVE. So far, everything looks good (going DVI-HDMI into my Toshiba 46H84), but from what limited play I've given it, I have to admit I'm not blown away by an increase in PQ and sound quality compared to my previous setup (Pioneer 578a, 480i and region free JVC XVS-500BK). I think my Tosh has a very good 1080i upconversion process, so it's always looked very good, especially with the Pioneer. I will give it some time over the next week or so, however.

I do have a question or two: Is there a way to get rid of the onscreen icons for freeze-frame, slo-mo, etc. I couldn't get rid of them and don't remember seeing anything in this thread about it. Also, I noticed "rise tone" and "fall tone" buttons on the remote. Is this a way of compensating for PAL speed-up? I can't think of what they would be used for, unless it's DVD-Audio related.

Thanks to all for the great info in this thread,
Ted

I just Got my Oppo and I have a few questions.

I bought it from Amazon and it had the following firmware:

M Version 05.00.01.07
Sub-Ver 00.00.00.01
Servo 23.07.10.00
Version OP971-9-0628B
Reg Code 1

Whats with the remote? That thing is a little busy. Has anyone tried to put some LEDs inside to light that thing up? It already has clear buttons.

What is with all of the different sound settings? PCM, RAW, Dolby......
I have a Onkyo TX-NR901 Does anyone know what I should set the Oppo on for best sound?

Now for the million dollar question:
Maybe I just don't really understand all of the different resolutions but here it goes..

I thought because I was buying a upconverting DVD player that it would fill up my screen at its native resolution (BenQ PE8700+ -- 720p). Hooked up using DVI cable

I tried all different combinations on the BenQ (wide, thro, anamorphic ...) and 525, 720 & 1080 on the Oppo and it does not fill the screen. I have a 16:9 screen (110" diag) and when I use my Cable box on 1080i and 720p it fills the screen when watching HD channels.

I popped in about 5 movies, and still had about 6 or more inches of black bars on the top and bottom (525p resolution - DVI)

720p & 1080i (DVI) gave me even bigger black bars on the top and bottom and an inch of black bars on the sides.

So what am I doing wrong? Is there some kind of custom resolution I need? or is the 525p the only thing that will fill my screen the most?

Understanding Widescreen, Letterboxed, and Pan & Scan (http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/specsformats/widescreenletterboxpanscan.php)

Look halfway down in the section "High Definition Televisions and Aspect Ratios – I Still See Black Bars!!!"

[QUOTE=afasso]I just Got my Oppo and I have a few questions.


I tried all different combinations on the BenQ (wide, thro, anamorphic ...) and 525, 720 & 1080 on the Oppo and it does not fill the screen. I have a 16:9 screen (110" diag) and when I use my Cable box on 1080i and 720p it fills the screen when watching HD channels.

QUOTE=afasso]

YES, same problem here, and I have a Plasma so burn in is an issue.

HD will not always fill the screen. Look at the link in my previous post.

Ok, I just put boondock saints in and it is played in a 1.35:1 aspect ratio. I have the oppo set to widescreen display (i have a toshiba 52hm84). The image is stretched out and the black bars on top and bottom are way too big (and I know the differance between 16:9 and 1.35:1 so that is not the answer). when I set the oppo to "wide squeeze" or whatever it is called the image looks correct but it only plays it in a 4:3 in the middle of the screen with the correct amount of black bar on top and bottom. The 4:3 squeeze mode and the regular "wide" mode put the same amount of black bar at the top and bottom.

Sinse the tv is seeing a 720p signal it won't allow the aspect to be changed on the tv. I'm not sure what to do here. Any suggestions?

Nitro,
Boondock saints is not an anamorphic dvd (ie, it is not enhanced for 16:9 displays). You will need to use one of the zoom options on the Oppo in order to get it to fill your screen correctly, using the zoom button on your remote. By the way, the movie is 2.35:1. :)

I just Got my Oppo and I have a few questions.

I bought it from Amazon and it had the following firmware:

M Version 05.00.01.07
Sub-Ver 00.00.00.01
Servo 23.07.10.00
Version OP971-9-0628B
Reg Code 1

Whats with the remote? That thing is a little busy. Has anyone tried to put some LEDs inside to light that thing up? It already has clear buttons.

What is with all of the different sound settings? PCM, RAW, Dolby......
I have a Onkyo TX-NR901 Does anyone know what I should set the Oppo on for best sound?

Now for the million dollar question:
Maybe I just don't really understand all of the different resolutions but here it goes..

I thought because I was buying a upconverting DVD player that it would fill up my screen at its native resolution (BenQ PE8700+ -- 720p). Hooked up using DVI cable

I tried all different combinations on the BenQ (wide, thro, anamorphic ...) and 525, 720 & 1080 on the Oppo and it does not fill the screen. I have a 16:9 screen (110" diag) and when I use my Cable box on 1080i and 720p it fills the screen when watching HD channels.

I popped in about 5 movies, and still had about 6 or more inches of black bars on the top and bottom (525p resolution - DVI)

720p & 1080i (DVI) gave me even bigger black bars on the top and bottom and an inch of black bars on the sides.

So what am I doing wrong? Is there some kind of custom resolution I need? or is the 525p the only thing that will fill my screen the most?

Set the sound to RAW which is Stream, your Receiver will do the DD and DTS decoding.

Set the player to Wide.

2.35 movies which is most of them will and are supposed to have bars top and bottom. 1.85 movies will not have bars. Same thing with HDTV if it not altered a 2.35 movie HDTV will have bars. HBO expands their 2.35 movies to fill at 1.85.

Set to 720p and use native on the BQ, there s/b zero overscan and you may need to zoom the projector lens to fill the sides. Here you'll be 1.1 pixel matched for the cleanist picture.

Rare but some movies are Letterbox format for 4.3 displays. Here you use one of your benQ aspects which should expand the image up/down so figures aren't squashed. The Oppo also has a zoom feature which corrects this also.

Nitro,
Boondock saints is not an anamorphic dvd (ie, it is not enhanced for 16:9 displays). You will need to use one of the zoom options on the Oppo in order to get it to fill your screen correctly, using the zoom button on your remote. By the way, the movie is 2.35:1. :)

The zoom options on the Oppo will not fill the screen no matter what you zoom it too. It has nothing to do with the movie. Even the blue Oppo screen when the Oppo is stopped does not completely fill the screen. It always always leaves about 1/2" unlit pixels all around any image from any DVD, or whatever source :mad:

[B]The zoom options on the Oppo will not fill the screen no matter what you zoom it too. It has nothing to do with the movie. Even the blue Oppo screen when the Oppo is stopped does not completely fill the screen. It always always leaves about 1/2" unlit pixels all around any image from any DVD, or whatever source[B]

do you have your tv' set up correctly?

[B]
do you have your tv' set up correctly?

Yes, I am sure the TV is set up correctly

Tom (Guitarman) instructions are correct ......

except on the BenQ remote select the ANA button which puts the projector into it's anamorphic mode. This is the best mode for DVD's and HDTV.

Personally for SD TV I use the BenQ's wide mode.. as it only stretches the sides and does a remarkable job of making SD tv fill the 16x9 screen.

The zoom options on the Oppo will not fill the screen no matter what you zoom it too. It has nothing to do with the movie. Even the blue Oppo screen when the Oppo is stopped does not completely fill the screen. It always always leaves about 1/2" unlit pixels all around any image from any DVD, or whatever source :mad:

Nitro's problem is different from yours. He is watching a non anamorphic dvd on the oppo on his 16:9 display. In wide mode, the non anamorphic dvd is stretched to fully fit his screen, so he is seeing a streched picture with bars above and below the picture. Setting the Oppo to Wide/SQZ mode will show the movie in a 4:3 window with bars on all 4 sides of the picture. Using the zoom here will show the movie correctly and proportionately so that the movie will fill the whole width of the display and only small black borders above and below the picture (since it is a 2.35:1 movie).

Guitarman,

Thanks for the settings. I just used AVIA to calibrate video and watched a movie(picture looked great). I will try those settings next and calibrate the audio.


HihoStevo,

I too use the wide setting on the BenQ when watching STD cable. It fills the screen and the picture looks great.(except when people stand sideways and off to the side of the screen, they instantly get a big but) :D


I think most of the movies i originally tried were 2.35:1(they didn't fill the screen)
Star Wars Episode II
Mission impossible 2
Bad Boys II

One movie I put in (Kings Ransom - WideScreen 1.85) filled the screen perfectly.

I will probably keep this DVD player as long as I can get a refund for the Dtronics DVI switcher I Bought (DS-21R). Even though it is HDCP compliant, it will not let my Cable box (SA 8000HD DVR) talk with the BenQ, so right now I am stuck plugging and unpluging the DVI cabl to switch between the Cable Box and the Oppo.

I was quite impressed with the way the Oppo was packaged, nice box with a handle (my 4 year old son carried it around for me until I hooked it up) and the fabric like bag that it came in was also impressive. The DVI cable looks skinny, but it seems to work OK.(the DVI cable that came with the BenQ is Much beefier.)

My Oppo is hooked up to the BenQ PE-8700+ via a 15foot RAM Electronics DVI-D cable that works great.

Afasso, you might want to try the the HDMI model of the Dtronics switch. I had a similar problem with the DVI version and they replaced it with the HDMI version and it works great.

Also, I noticed "rise tone" and "fall tone" buttons on the remote. Is this a way of compensating for PAL speed-up? I can't think of what they would be used for, unless it's DVD-Audio related.


I can't think of too many other uses either, but yeah, it helps compensate for PAL speedup.

I had problems with a Lenexpo DVI switcher, ended up going witht their HDMI switcher and used adaptors for my DVI cables.

Ok, I just put boondock saints in and it is played in a 1.35:1 aspect ratio. I have the oppo set to widescreen display (i have a toshiba 52hm84). The image is stretched out and the black bars on top and bottom are way too big (and I know the differance between 16:9 and 1.35:1 so that is not the answer). when I set the oppo to "wide squeeze" or whatever it is called the image looks correct but it only plays it in a 4:3 in the middle of the screen with the correct amount of black bar on top and bottom. The 4:3 squeeze mode and the regular "wide" mode put the same amount of black bar at the top and bottom.

Sinse the tv is seeing a 720p signal it won't allow the aspect to be changed on the tv. I'm not sure what to do here. Any suggestions?


This may not be the way of most here, but I usually switch to 480p and use my set's stretch modes for non-anamorphic and full screen movies.

The OPPO looses resolution in 480P mode. If you put up a resolution pattern in 480P, the lines start to run together. If you switch to 720P or 1080i, each line stays distinct and separate.

I've got my Oppo earlier this week, and I am amazingly pleased, it is worth every dollar I've spent on it.

I haven't had any lip sync issues others have reported, and I've been using it heavily to test how good and stable it really was. Passed all my tests :)

The only complaint I have is that there is no long filename support. I even called Oppo about it, and they said I wasn't the only one who had requested it. So, hopefully it will be added, or someone releases a mod that can be applied.

Also, I can't get it to work in 1080i through dvi/dvi cable. Is it possible that my display does not support it? 720p is perfect, though.

Also, I can't get it to work in 1080i through dvi/dvi cable. Is it possible that my display does not support it? 720p is perfect, though.

It's hard to say. My display will work at 1080i but 720p is perfect also. 1080i is fuzzy.
The native resolution of my display is 768. Enjoy it at 720p, it's not likely to get better than that.

The OPPO looses resolution in 480P mode. If you put up a resolution pattern in 480P, the lines start to run together. If you switch to 720P or 1080i, each line stays distinct and separate.

I find it odd that the Oppo is losing resolution at 480p for you. Is it the player that is losing resolution from its output or is it your display that is causing it to lose resolution due to its scaler scaling it to your native resolution (in your case, 1080p).

The only complaint I have is that there is no long filename support. I even called Oppo about it, and they said I wasn't the only one who had requested it. So, hopefully it will be added, or someone releases a mod that can be applied.




Does the Oppo truncate the long filename, or does the player not allow it to be played at all?

It truncates.
Original Mediatek firmwares only show first 8 or so characters, no matter what the player is. Only a few MTK based players have this support out of the box.
There are custom made firmware patches that remove the limitation. None for Oppo, or I just haven't found it yet.
It doesn't make any sense why Mediatek would not do it when it is very easy to implement.
It is a real pain in the neck especially for the MP3 files. Basically you would have no idea what song is being played.

i just got the oppo dvd player. how can you tell what mode its in? when i press the dvi button and screen changes but it doesn't say whether its 480p, 720p, or 1080i?

Yes, it does. It disappeares in a few seconds.

Yes, it does. It disappeares in a few seconds.


weird, i'm using it with a samsung hlp5674w via DVI-HDMI, and its not showing at all when I press the dvi button. anyone else have this problem? is there a setting somewhere to show it?

Greetings,
I also have the Samsung 5674, and although the dvi input does sometimes show up on screen, if you blink you'll miss it. It seems as if the time it takes for the Samsung to recognize the signal is about how long the input display appears on screen. I just use the input display function on the TV to double check. YMMV,
b.

The OPPO looses resolution in 480P mode. If you put up a resolution pattern in 480P, the lines start to run together. If you switch to 720P or 1080i, each line stays distinct and separate.

Thats most likely your internal scaler causing the problem.

I was considering getting the Oppo, but my Westinghouse TV has a Faroudja DCDi as well. Would it be worth buying or would the difference be negligible?

I just got my new Oppo and I have to say the PQ is excellent. Aside from the annoying little glitches mentioned above it's a pretty solid player. But one problem I have is that when playing movies the soundtrack seems to be very low. In order to hear it well one must turn the volume almost all the way up, which then makes the dialogue extremely loud. This was never a problem on my last player.

I've tried changing the DRC settings on both the receiver and the Oppo to no avail. The Oppo is currently connected to the receiver using a digital audio TOSLINK cable. Can anyone provide me with any advice on how to fix this soundtrack issue?


Hello,

I also expeerience the low audio from the OPPO. I have mine connected via coax digital audio to a SONY HT system. When I watch the OPPO, DD5.1 I have to crank up volume to 50-55 on the reciever. Most other sources are fine at 40-44. I did notice that for the same DVD, if it has DTS, the volume level appears to be closer to other sources, i.e 42-44.

I havn't mentioned it in any communications with OPPO support, mainly because it didn't bother me, thoughI do have to rember to crank it down before I switch sources.

Rick

i just got the oppo dvd player. how can you tell what mode its in? when i press the dvi button and screen changes but it doesn't say whether its 480p, 720p, or 1080i?


I have a Toshiba 65HX93 and had the same problem. The resolution display was disappearing before my tv could sync the signal. After contacting OPPO and posting here, it was suggested to connect a component or composite cable up to one of the inputs (while leaving the DVI-HDMI connectin in place. Then watch the composit input while you press the DVI button.

This worked for me. Once I knew what setting I was on, I could switch input back to DVI and it was fine.

I still check it from time to time, just to make sure the button doesnt get pressed by someeone accidentally. I did ask that they consider increasing the time, or putting the rate in a menu display somewhere so I could check it easier, but I didn't get the impression that they were too interested in doing that. Sounds like there arent many of us with that problem.

Rick

Thats most likely your internal scaler causing the problem.
No, you are in denial. Oppo testing shows compression of the image. Verified with 4+ types of screens. Lines are coming together on resolution patterns shown on 1:1 pixel mapped display devices.

Time for oppo to finally sort this out.

Also, I can't get it to work in 1080i through dvi/dvi cable. Is it possible that my display does not support it? 720p is perfect, though.


I have the same problem without a fix.

Ive had it running on a Panasonic 700 in 1080 and 720 and 480 fine.
With my Sony HS51 it just wont do 1080 in fullscreen. It displays the image in the top half of the screen - wierd - especially that I know the unit DID work on the 700 and not the Sony.

Using DVI-HDMI cable btw...

Thats most likely your internal scaler causing the problem.
My two other player, A Denon 2200 and an SDI RP82, both run through my iscanHD. They do not have this problem. Even if they go straight to the TV . But the Oppo at 480P, the resolution lines run together. At 720P and 1080i it produces an excellent picture. My current iscanHD can only process 480P and it passes through anything higher. I am currently getting it upgraded to the iscanHD+, that will process a 720P and 1080i signal, so I will be able to process the OPPO signal when I receive my upgrade. The Oppo produces an excellent picture, as long as you use it at 720P or 1080i. I can't test 540P since my 1080P DLP set won't accept a 540P signal.

My two other player, A Denon 2200 and an SDI RP82, both run through my iscanHD. They do not have this problem. Even if they go straight to the TV . But the Oppo at 480P, the resolution lines run together. At 720P and 1080i it produces an excellent picture. My current iscanHD can only process 480P and it passes through anything higher. I am currently getting it upgraded to the iscanHD+, that will process a 720P and 1080i signal, so I will be able to process the OPPO signal when I receive my upgrade. The Oppo produces an excellent picture, as long as you use it at 720P or 1080i. I can't test 540P since my 1080P DLP set won't accept a 540P signal.

I just got my HD+ upgrade and I can tell you that there is a very nice improvement going 720p into the HD+ vs. going 480p into the HD. I output analog component 1080i, but even though the Oppo 720p has to be downconverted to 1080i, my system still looks better running 720p into the HD+ than 1080i. The HD+ will also accept 540p and output at 1080i but I could see little if any improvement over 480p when I ran a brief test.

Yesterday I received my Oppo. I've posted my observations over on the other thread and will now copy and paste them over here...

I just received my new Oppo today and, I must say, that out of the box this player's picture and sound are awesome. I think the only thing I had to do in the menu was select Dolby 5.1 and enable my subwoofer. I've been warming up my tv with the Eagles Farewell I Tour and I'm about ready to calibrate my display to this player using Avia. I haven't noticed any shimmering, macroblocking, or lip synch issues at all. I'll report back after I've calibrated my display and watch some demanding scenes on some other dvd's.

OK, Tonight I calibrated my Sony GWIII's display to the Oppo's DVI output using the Avia DVD. In order to correctly calibrate my display, I had to increase brightness level in the Oppo's menu to 3 (default is 0). I left everything else at the Oppo's default settings. I've noticed that the Sharpness test screen on the Avia DVD looks much sharper with the Oppo. This is a major improvement in PQ from my Sammy 841. Regarding the lip sync issue: have any of you that are experiencing this problem gone into the 'Channel Delay' part of the menu and accidentally changed the delay to your center or rear surround speakers? I accidentally did this and audio became severely out of sync with the video. I set all speakers back to zero and the problem completely went away. I 've watched quite a bit of The Eagles Farewell I Tour and some of the Cher Farewell Tour tonight and am very impressed with PQ and sound quality so far - both have DTS soundtracks. BTW I'm running my sound through an optical cable to my home theater receiver and I run my video signal through a Monster DVI-HDMI adaptor cable to a Lenexpo HDMI switcher and then with a Monster HDMI-DVI adaptor cable to my Sony and have had no problems with video dropouts whatsoever.

I played about 10 minutes of the Dark Side of the Rainbow DVD last night. For those not familiar with this one, it's a High Performance Megabit DVD (1.5 Mb/s bitrate). This dvd has Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon in 5.1 DTS and Dolby 5.1 (two distinct audio tracks) and it's synchronized to the movie Wizard of Oz. This dvd stuttered/paused about 7 times in the first 10 minutes of the movie. Audio and video both pause for about a second, then the player rewinds back to where it messed up and begins playing again. Is anyone aware of any settings I should be using when playing this type of dvd? Audio is again going through an optical cable to my Denon home theater receiver. This dvd plays without problem in my Sammy 841.

I also watched The Matrix last night and it played without a problem. PQ is very good with this player!

I must say that it's very hard to be at work today! I'd really like to be at home watching dvd's!

I played about 10 minutes of the Dark Side of the Rainbow DVD last night. For those not familiar with this one, it's a High Performance Megabit DVD (1.5 Mb/s bitrate). This dvd has Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon in 5.1 DTS and Dolby 5.1 (two distinct audio tracks) and it's synchronized to the movie Wizard of Oz.

Is this some sort of official release, or a bootleg custom? Somehow I doubt that Warner Bros. would license their movie to be used in this manner, and I'm pretty sure the movie has not yet fallen into the public domain.

Will this player accept SACD or is this only a 'Sony' feature?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=dusterscott Regarding the lip sync issue: have any of you that are experiencing this problem gone into the 'Channel Delay' part of the menu and accidentally changed the delay to your center or rear surround speakers? I accidentally did this and audio became severely out of sync with the video. I set all speakers back to zero and the problem completely went away.

Audio is again going through an optical cable to my Denon home theater receiver. [/QUOTE]

dusterscott, If you're using digital sound to your receiver, why would changing these settings have anything to do with lip sync? I thought these settings were for the RCA connectors from the Oppo to the receiver?

Also, I recommend using COAX from the Oppo to the receiver. It is pure digital whereas optical still is converting the sound signal from digital to optical back to digital. Just my two cents.

As long as the 1s and 0s are accurately transmitted, it matters little what the physical layer of the data transport is, whether it's pulses of light, electricity, or morse code.

dusterscott, If you're using digital sound to your receiver, why would changing these settings have anything to do with lip sync? I thought these settings were for the RCA connectors from the Oppo to the receiver?

Also, I recommend using COAX from the Oppo to the receiver. It is pure digital whereas optical still is converting the sound signal from digital to optical back to digital. Just my two cents.

I don't know jaseman. I haven't even hooked up analog cables to the Oppo as my Sammy 841 will play both DVD-A's and SACD's and I'm not going to switch 6 cables around whenever I want to listen to DVD-A's on the Oppo. My Denon receiver only has one set of analog inputs. All I know is, while watching The Eagles Farewell I Tour last night, I went into the channel delay area of the menu and accidentally changed the delay to various speakers. I didn't realize what I had done at first. Don Henley's voice became way out of synch with the video! My heart sank at first. All I know is, after I set all speakers back to 0, the problem went away. I hope this isn't a coincidence. I continued to watch the rest of the first DVD without a problem - smiling the whole time I should add. I use my Denon home theater receiver to control speaker delay by entering the distance that I'm sitting from each speaker. So you think I should go with a coax cable. I was planning on buying another optical cable on my way home tonight. Last night I just used the one that I had been using with my 841 for the last 8 months. Maybe I'll buy a coax cable then. Does anyone else have an opinion on this?

Dusterscott, that's interesting on your findings with the audio delay settings. I too use my receiver to set the delay according to my distance from the speakers. Though I have few lip sync issues to speak of I will take another look at my settings in this menu to see what it says.

As for the COAX cable...if you do a google search on optical vs coax you should come up with some information on why one is better than the other. That's how I found out that coax is "supposedly" better. Not to mention that any dirt or dust that gets into the optical path will degrade performance.

For what it is worth I had my H79 professionally calibrated over the weekend. For the OPPO the tech changed the brightness setting to +5 and the saturation setting to +2. The rest was left as is.

For what it is worth I had my H79 professionally calibrated over the weekend. For the OPPO the tech changed the brightness setting to +5 and the saturation setting to +2. The rest was left as is.

This reaffirms guitarman's statement that brightness should be at +5. Thanks.

Yeah, when viewing the 'picture/brightness' test screen on the Avia calibration DVD - I couldn't even see the two moving white bars with the display's brightness turned all the way up. Increasing the Oppo's setting to +3 allowed me to correctly calibrate my display. I imagine it is somewhat display-dependant, but in any event, it appears that it is advisable to consider increasing brightness in the Oppo's menu.

Yeah, when viewing the 'picture/brightness' test screen on the Avia calibration DVD - I couldn't even see the two moving white bars with the display's brightness turned all the way up. Increasing the Oppo's setting to +3 allowed me to correctly calibrate my display. I imagine it is somewhat display-dependant, but in any event, it appears that it is advisable to consider increasing brightness in the Oppo's menu.Display-dependant is correct. My display has no problem with the Oppo's defaults.

As for the COAX cable...if you do a google search on optical vs coax you should come up with some information on why one is better than the other. That's how I found out that coax is "supposedly" better. Not to mention that any dirt or dust that gets into the optical path will degrade performance.Many forums show up in such a Google search. I don't trust the forums much because there is a great deal of misinformation and personal opinion on this issue. Dirt or dust in an optical path cannot degrade the sound quality - a digital signal either works or it doesn't. If the optical path is impaired for one reason or another, the receiver will start dropping bits of information, and the result is catastrophic - audible blips, dropouts or no sound at all - not gradual degradation of the sound quality.

The audioholics FAQ section (http://www.audioholics.com/FAQs/000705_optical_coaxial.php) gives a balanced answer...

Q: Between optical and coaxial, which connection is going to give the better sound quality, and why?

A: Better is relative. In a harsh environment, optical may have advantages. By "harsh" I mean:
1) Cable runs over 10ft
2) Cable runs in close proximity to video and power cords emanating RF noise

In most cases, the above conditions would result in negligible impacts on the signal quality since the signal being transmitted (PCM or bitstream) is sampled at low frequencies (44-48KHz) and thus are more immune to noise impairments.

However, using optical cables can minimize the potential of the above mentioned problems and thus may help to reduce common mode noise. The only negative about using optical cables is the connection is not always as secure as a coax one, and can sometimes be compromised easily by moving components frequently. In addition, optical cables are usually more expensive than coax ones.

Bottom Line: Using optical cables for your digital connections may help minimize susceptibility of coupling RF noise into the line and reduce loss for long runs (10 feet or more). However, optical cables tend to be more costly and sensitive to abrupt external forces, which may potentially weaken the connection over time. In any event, either connection method should yield excellent and comparable results in most cases.

As for the COAX cable...if you do a google search on optical vs coax you should come up with some information on why one is better than the other. That's how I found out that coax is "supposedly" better. Not to mention that any dirt or dust that gets into the optical path will degrade performance.

How would dirt or dust get into the light path of a shielded cable?

FYI for anyone who owns a One-For-All universal remote. OFA has recently added the Oppo signal codes to their Kameleon line. You can upgrade the remote over the phone by calling the company.

FYI for anyone who owns a One-For-All universal remote. OFA has recently added the Oppo signal codes to their Kameleon line. You can upgrade the remote over the phone by calling the company.

Cool, and I hear discrete on/off commands are coming soon too. I hope my radio shack remote will be able to teach it to my universal.

How would dirt or dust get into the light path of a shielded cable?


I'm not sure but he is probably refering to the connection ends of an optical cable where it is open and plugs into the equipment. I can see where a piece of lint or hair might get shoved into that and cause a problem but who knows.

Display-dependant is correct. My display has no problem with the Oppo's defaults.

The reason JaPhule and I value this information is that Bob Williams, who was a designing engineer on the Infocus 4805, and checks in now and then in the huge thread on AVS, took the time with an accupel to come up with the correct gains and offsets for the DVI input on the 4805, if the source is passing the proper values. Gains were OK with the OPPO, but offsets were a bit different, and moving the OPPO brightness to +5 "corrects" its output to reference for the DVI output, and the Bob Williams numbers work.

Just to be clear, we could still calibrate to correct offsets using Avia or DVE, but using gains and offsets rather than brightness and contrast, while they give you more bit depth on the 4805 are a little more cumbersome to use.

Wes

Many forums show up in such a Google search. I don't trust the forums much because there is a great deal of misinformation and personal opinion on this issue. Dirt or dust in an optical path cannot degrade the sound quality - a digital signal either works or it doesn't. If the optical path is impaired for one reason or another, the receiver will start dropping bits of information, and the result is catastrophic - audible blips, dropouts or no sound at all - not gradual degradation of the sound quality.

The audioholics FAQ section (http://www.audioholics.com/FAQs/000705_optical_coaxial.php) gives a balanced answer...

Audio D/A converters are designed to interpolate missing bits, so there can be defects that have some effect but which you can't easily hear. I'm not saying it accounts for why audiophiles claim to hear differences between digital cables. I think most of the high-end audio stuff is a bunch of snake oil.

DVI has convinced me that digital transmission can be far from perfect. I've seen many cases where the DVI link basically works but there are glitches in the signal.

We're used to digital transmissions via computers, which always have multiple layers of error detection and correction and also retransmission when necessary. CD-ROMs, for example, have extra error correction versus audio CDs. If you converted your computer data to WAV files and stored them on audio CDs, you'd probably be losing data left and right.

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Steve

Audio D/A converters are designed to interpolate missing bits, so there can be defects that have some effect but which you can't easily hear. I'm not saying it accounts for why audiophiles claim to hear differences between digital cables. I think most of the high-end audio stuff is a bunch of snake oil.Yes, I agree. Optical disks are known to have a pretty high incidence of indecipherable data bits. Thus, the surprisingly robust Redbook error-correction scheme was devised, to allow reconstruction of the missing data to ensure a bit-for-bit perfect result. But when a disk is so damaged as to render the error-correction scheme useless, a good D/A converter can act as a second line of defense, to interpolate one or two missing bits (as you mentioned). In that case, you're right, you would not easily hear the defect. But if there are a good few bits missing in a row, the result definitely becomes audible as a loud "pop".

DVI has convinced me that digital transmission can be far from perfect. I've seen many cases where the DVI link basically works but there are glitches in the signal.That's true, although those "glitches" show up as "sparkles" or other artifacts that I still consider catastrophic failures - they immediately indicate loss of data. If the display is digital, there is no D/A converter to interpolate those missing bits.

Gary

I just received the OPPO OPDV971H and have connected it up to my Samsung HLR 61" DLP HDTV (via DVI to HDMI cable). The audio is using the OPPO digital optical out to my Yamaha DSP-A1. The DVD has the factory version of the latest firmware (i.e. version 0624 .vs. 0628 -- the literature that came with the player said this was the factory version of the June 29 release). I changed the audio delay to the max 50msec.

We were watching "Saving Private Ryan" in DTS on 720P and noticed considerable lipsync right away. I downgraded resolution on the OPPO to 480P and the lipsync improved but was still there at times.

Aside from purchasing the Felton (sp?), is there another recommendation anyone has on (virtually) eliminating lipsync? Is this lipsync problem predominantly on certain DVD types (e.g. DTS, fast-action) or is resolution the main factor?

Very much appreciate your help.

Is not the problem two-fold? The Oppo introduces video delay as a result of image processing (scaling and deinterlacing). So the audio delay in the Oppo is designed to get the audio and video back in sync from the Oppo. However, does not the display also introduce video delay as a result of its own internal video processing as well? Are we really fighting two issues here, not just one? If you played the audio via the Samsung (for testing), is it in sync again? If so, then the problem is not with the Oppo, but really with the video delay in the Samsung.

Am I missing something here?

Yes, the DVD and HDTV video processing factor into the overall delay. Some have addressed it by adding the Felton between DVD audio out and amplifier in. Some receivers and DVD players have audio delay's to compensate. (a reason i purchased the Oppo DVD player -- not to mention their great support). It's simply the result of higher video resolutions requiring more processing time than audio and the issue isn't helped by splitting the audio/video paths (typically the case). The OPPO max audio delay (at least for that DVD) was insufficient and the lipsync was still quite noticeable. I've sent an email into oppo support asking if there's higher audio delays that can be added. I've read that 100msec or better is sometimes required.

I've been following all the lip-sync threads and this is a theory that at least to me makes sense. I have a zenith 318 and have used it on 2 displays and have never had a lip-sync issue ever (I run it at 1080i out and split the audio to an a/v receiver). The test below (feed audio and video into the display) may help to sort this out.

jeff

Is not the problem two-fold? The Oppo introduces video delay as a result of image processing (scaling and deinterlacing). So the audio delay in the Oppo is designed to get the audio and video back in sync from the Oppo. However, does not the display also introduce video delay as a result of its own internal video processing as well? Are we really fighting two issues here, not just one? If you played the audio via the Samsung (for testing), is it in sync again? If so, then the problem is not with the Oppo, but really with the video delay in the Samsung.

Am I missing something here?

I am have some questions about MP3 playback on the Oppo:

1. Is the only mode of playback SINGLE TRACK? I hit play, the track plays, and it stops.
2. Is there no way to select a custom playlist / directories?
3. Is there any SHUFFLE function, i.e. random playback of all tracks/all directories?

I many DVD+R with 4.6 gigs of music on each.. it would be nice to at least have a few basic features that would be very easy to impliment in firmware. The manual does not describe MP3 playback function.

Thanks

I have not played MP3s on it yet so no idea.

How is everyone setting up their audio, mixed 2 channels or 6 channels? This is my first multi-channel dvd player so I don't know which to use to get better sound. And is it advisable to connect both mixed 2 channels and the 6 channels together on the same receiver?

sooo... haven't seen any recent reports about beta testing, etc. Is there any indicate what the next fix will, well, fix, and when it might be testing?

signed,

Adicted to Regular Firmware Updates

:)

I often watch part of a movie and then stop it in the middle and don't get around to watching the rest for a couple days. At first I would just pause the movie but then I realized I wasn't sure if the disc would keep spinning the whole time. The Oppo lets you hit stop and then resume play later, so I got in the habit of using the stop button.

Yesterday I was watching part of a movie and hit the stop button. Earlier today I happened to walk by the player and put my hand on top. I could feel a significant vibration. Clearly the disc was not only spinning, but spinning at a very high rate of speed more like a 16x DVD-ROM drive than a DVD video player. I turned the power off and naturally the disc stopped spinning. Then I turned it back on and hit play and couldn't really even feel any vibration from normal speed versus the bat-out-of-hell speed that it was going before. It may have been spinning at that speed for hour after hour for all I know.

Anyone else experience this?

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Steve

I am have some questions about MP3 playback on the Oppo:

1. Is the only mode of playback SINGLE TRACK? I hit play, the track plays, and it stops.
2. Is there no way to select a custom playlist / directories?
3. Is there any SHUFFLE function, i.e. random playback of all tracks/all directories?

I many DVD+R with 4.6 gigs of music on each.. it would be nice to at least have a few basic features that would be very easy to impliment in firmware. The manual does not describe MP3 playback function.

Thanks
I popped in a disc with about 10 mp3's on it and it played them all, one after the other without stopping. I haven't tried playlists and I don't see any way to shuffle playback.

I contacted OPPO about increasing their audio delay max value. Their response is below. Note, I received a response within 4 hours - on a Saturday!!

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Ken,

Thanks for contacting OPPO. We have sent your request to Product Engineering to see if we can increase the maximum audio deplay to 100 msec in the next firmware release. Thanks again for contacting OPPO.

Best Regards,

Customer Service

OPPO Digital, Inc.
453 Ravendale Dr, Suite D
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119

How is everyone setting up their audio, mixed 2 channels or 6 channels? This is my first multi-channel dvd player so I don't know which to use to get better sound. And is it advisable to connect both mixed 2 channels and the 6 channels together on the same receiver?

For some reason when I hook up my Oppo to the Mixed L & R channels that go into my (older) surround sound system, I don't get rear speaker (L & R) separation ... is there any way to fix this? I tried all the settings on the Oppo's audio setup menu, without any success... thx

For some reason when I hook up my Oppo to the Mixed L & R channels that go into my (older) surround sound system, I don't get rear speaker (L & R) separation ... is there any way to fix this? I tried all the settings on the Oppo's audio setup menu, without any success... thx

The Mixed outputs are 2.0 only. On older receiver that can't do Prologic II, there will be no seperation of the rear speakers, because they will only do ProLogic to the 2.0 stream.

I am have some questions about MP3 playback on the Oppo:

1. Is the only mode of playback SINGLE TRACK? I hit play, the track plays, and it stops.
2. Is there no way to select a custom playlist / directories?
3. Is there any SHUFFLE function, i.e. random playback of all tracks/all directories?

I many DVD+R with 4.6 gigs of music on each.. it would be nice to at least have a few basic features that would be very easy to impliment in firmware. The manual does not describe MP3 playback function.

Thanks

1. All MP3s will be played in order within the same directory.
2. I have not been able to get playlists, or files within other directories, to play.
3. There is no shuffle feature. I don't know how this was overlooked, but it was.

Another missing feature is the ability to skip MP3s using the Skip keys. You have to use the menu system.

Aside from purchasing the Felton (sp?), is there another recommendation anyone has on (virtually) eliminating lipsync? Is this lipsync problem predominantly on certain DVD types (e.g. DTS, fast-action) or is resolution the main factor? Samsung DLP's are known to add a certain amount of video delay to the chain. Oppo is working on lip-sync as a high priority. In time, I'm sure they'll be able to fix it - maybe with enough delay to compensate for the TV as well. In the mean time, a few receivers (and the Felston) are available with audio delay features.

What I don't understand is why (at least with the 2 DVD's that I've experienced lip sync issues on) the problem appears to be random in nature. I've watched these discs multiple times on this player and each time there is a different amount of delay. The Genesis DVD played perfectly in sync one time and then another time it was way off. By the way, I had a couple of friends over yesterday and we watched about 4 DVD's on the Oppo. They were very impressed with the sharp and detailed PQ of the Oppo. They said they could barely tell the difference between the PQ of the Oppo vs. the PQ of HD programming I receive OTA.

What I don't understand is why (at least with the 2 DVD's that I've experienced lip sync issues on) the problem appears to be random in nature. I've watched these discs multiple times on this player and each time there is a different amount of delay. The Genesis DVD played perfectly in sync one time and then another time it was way off. By the way, I had a couple of friends over yesterday and we watched about 4 DVD's on the Oppo. They were very impressed with the sharp and detailed PQ of the Oppo. They said they could barely tell the difference between the PQ of the Oppo vs. the PQ of HD programming I receive OTA.

I've not had the Oppo, but other Faroudja-based players I've had have shown the same intermittent lip-sync behavior. I believe this is a problem with the chip. On the Panny S77, a 100 ms delay setting did fix the intermittent problem for me. Not sure why, but the lesser settings did not improve the problem.

Man, the Oppo sucks. I popped in "House of FLying Daggers" and it totally had a lip-synch issue. All the actors were speaking english, but their lips totally did not move with the words. I tried stopping and restarting, but to no avail. I can't believe they would let a product out the door like this. Is this a Faroudja issue?





;)

^^ lol ^^

Man, the Oppo sucks. I popped in "House of FLying Daggers" and it totally had a lip-synch issue. All the actors were speaking english, but their lips totally did not move with the words. I tried stopping and restarting, but to no avail. I can't believe they would let a product out the door like this. Is this a Faroudja issue?
;)
You need a receiver with an audio delay. With my Denon 3805 I have no lip sync problems since I can compensate for the video lag by delaying the audio.

Aaron.....

I also run the Denon 3805 with my Oppo...... however, so far I have not noticed any lip synch issues (I have only played a dozen DVD's or so though) with the Oppo. What kind of a delay did you set up in your 3805?

Thanks,

Steve

Man, the Oppo sucks. I popped in "House of FLying Daggers" and it totally had a lip-synch issue. All the actors were speaking english, but their lips totally did not move with the words. I tried stopping and restarting, but to no avail. I can't believe they would let a product out the door like this. Is this a Faroudja issue?Snigger, snigger! That was pretty funny.

How many people are going to be caught out by not reading mweflen's post properly? Lip-sync in "House of Flying Daggers"... a CHINESE movie!!!

Complaints about lip-sync are ALL OVER this forum. Nearly every single upconverting DVD player and every HDTV has a constant barrage of complaints. Some are legitimate, but very often the equipment gets the blame - even when the source is at fault.

RE Lip Sync

Hit the Pause buttion then play and it worked on Guns of Navarone SB version last night

You need a receiver with an audio delay. With my Denon 3805 I have no lip sync problems since I can compensate for the video lag by delaying the audio.

Aaron, he was joking. House of Flying Daggers is in some form of Chinese and he was referring to watching a version with dubbed English and the sound not matching the lip movement.

Chris

What I don't understand is why (at least with the 2 DVD's that I've experienced lip sync issues on) the problem appears to be random in nature. I've watched these discs multiple times on this player and each time there is a different amount of delay.

I know I've mentioned this before but I noticed tha lip synch issue first while using the audio chapter in the THX Optimizer via The Incredibles. The OSD would show the center channel while sound come from the FL speaker. It went all thye way around the room like that. Have any of you guys seen this?
Javry

Aaron, he was joking. House of Flying Daggers is in some form of Chinese and he was referring to watching a version with dubbed English and the sound not matching the lip movement.

Chris

I believe a 'translator circuit' is a pending mod. :)

And you could tell if the audio and video were in synch if you spoke Chinese then.

I think he was joking Scott..........

Aaron, he was joking. House of Flying Daggers is in some form of Chinese and he was referring to watching a version with dubbed English and the sound not matching the lip movement.

Chris

I watched that movie and didn't even think about that. Boy that went right over me.
:D

I think he was joking Scott..........

Of course! Just having fun here.

I believe my Arcam receiver has an audio delay feature. I'll check the manual tomorrow, I'm not certain because I've never needed to make an adjustment for lip sync issues before. Now... how does one go about accurately aligning audio to video? I have DVE, is that any good for solving this problem?

actually, all joking aside, i finally did experience a lip synch issue - on "Alexander - Director's Cut." Stop-restart fixed it right up, no biggie.

I think this little quirk definitely is worth it given the unit's performance otherwise.

Also, House of Flying Daggers looked incredible. Not my favorite movie in the genre (Hero is much better IMHO), but the transfer is impeccable. No EE, great blacks, a wonderful showcase DVD for the Oppo.

mweflen, if it was only an occasional stop-restart I'd agree that it's a minor quirk. I've had lip sync issues with some DVD's that required 3,4, or 5 stop-restarts. Considering that annoyance and the fact I've never had a lip sync issue before ( I've owned a dozen DVD players) I'd have to say it more than a minor bug. After all, it an AUDIO/ video medium and if the audio's screwed up, well that's unacceptable. I do hope OPPO puts this high on their priority list.

I must say the OPPO does have the second best picture I've seen, my Denon 3910 was a bit better all around. That says a lot when you take the cost difference into account.

I cant believe the level of comittment OPPO has to its product. I have read about 3000 posts of owners nit picking a $199 product and a company responding with firmware updates. I have a Denon 1920 and was about to buy a Panasonic s97s for another TV, now I will buy the OPPO based on customer service alone.

mweflen, if it was only an occasional stop-restart I'd agree that it's a minor quirk. I've had lip sync issues with some DVD's that required 3,4, or 5 stop-restarts. Considering that annoyance and the fact I've never had a lip sync issue before ( I've owned a dozen DVD players) I'd have to say it more than a minor bug. After all, it an AUDIO/ video medium and if the audio's screwed up, well that's unacceptable. I do hope OPPO puts this high on their priority list.


Ditto. It's the one thing holding me back from getting one. Seems like a big problem.

I was just curious if the different outputs had a different result on this lip synch issue?

For my part I just pulled my older Panasonic out of the rack and plugged the Oppo in. I did run a DVI cable to my Gefen switch and then sat back to enjoy... so far I have not experienced the lip synch issue... but I have only watched about 6 DVD's.

I cannot remember if I hooked up the audio through a digital optical connection (I think) or a digital RCA jack connection... assuming the Oppo has both.... just wondering.

Talking about Oppo customer service I posted this in the other Oppo thread this morning. Lip synch was my major concern before ordering and I'll be hooking up via digital coaxial to a Denon 3803. I just finally decided to give it a try. Hopefully I won't see it either.

Earlier Post:
I've been thinking about getting a OPPO for my Pioneer Elite 630HD. I've been reading all the posts and have been on the fence about trying one. I was going to be in behind the TV and cabinets this coming weekend so I figured this morning I would send an e-mail to Oppo to see if I ordered one today if I could have it by Friday. I sent the e-mail at 7:13am PST this morning and had an answer by 7:30am PST that they could ship today and I would have it by Friday with normal shipping. I went ahead and placed an order and should have it by Friday.

I needed a good player for Region 2 Pal discs and having the ability to try 1080i over DVI was just an added bonus. Can't wait to try it out and wanted to give OPPO customer service a big thumbs up for their quick response.


Later,

Jim

Jim........

I have the Denon 3805 and as I mentioned, so far have not seen the lip synch issue.

However if you do, your 3803 has an audio delay that you can use to fix the problem if the delay settings in the Oppo itself are not enough for you.

Ditto. It's the one thing holding me back from getting one. Seems like a big problem.

I have watched about 8 movies since getting my player. I only saw a lip-sync issue once. It was with the movie "Cellular". If this was a Oppo problem, why wouldn't I see this more often, if not during every movie? I am leaning toward dvd production and or possible A/V receiver issue with the Oppo. I think this will be a hard one to fix, because I don't believe this is all Oppo's issue, but I believe it is just incompatibility with certain hardware.

mweflen, if it was only an occasional stop-restart I'd agree that it's a minor quirk. I've had lip sync issues with some DVD's that required 3,4, or 5 stop-restarts. Considering that annoyance and the fact I've never had a lip sync issue before ( I've owned a dozen DVD players) I'd have to say it more than a minor bug. After all, it an AUDIO/ video medium and if the audio's screwed up, well that's unacceptable. I do hope OPPO puts this high on their priority list.

I must say the OPPO does have the second best picture I've seen, my Denon 3910 was a bit better all around. That says a lot when you take the cost difference into account.

It IS really strange, I admit. How can there be such variety in people's experiences? I have seen lip synch issues on poorly mastered DVDs as well, like older single layer stuff or indie weird stuff. Or on DVDshrink copies. But I would say it is 5% of the time tops, and stop-start always fixes it. And I do watch carefully, so I would notice it if it were more frequent. Alexander was the first "big name" dvd i experienced anything with. I can also easily replicate the well known THX optimizer timing bug.

It's just bizarre. It must be partially a receiver issue, maybe some are just more sensitive than others.

For my part, I do consider it a minor bug, because I rarely sit through a whole movie start to finish anyway - I always get a drink or hit the bathroom at least once. So it's not like I'm "destroying the magic" for myself or something. I agree I would find it to be a much bigger issue if it kept recurring.

I felt the vertical alaising was a much much much bigger issue than a little lip synch. Oppo's fixing that issue made me ecstatic. Even my Sony deck has lip synch issues every once in a while.

Jim........

I have the Denon 3805 and as I mentioned, so far have not seen the lip synch issue.

However if you do, your 3803 has an audio delay that you can use to fix the problem if the delay settings in the Oppo itself are not enough for you.

Thanks for the info Steve. Hopefully I will have good luck and not see it either..

Jim

I cant believe the level of comittment OPPO has to its product. I have read about 3000 posts of owners nit picking a $199 product and a company responding with firmware updates. I have a Denon 1920 and was about to buy a Panasonic s97s for another TV, now I will buy the OPPO based on customer service alone.

I think you're right on track. Most of us are very impressed with this player. For me personally, it's an "okay" player with a few challenges to clear up before going prime-time. But the thing that keeps me in the Oppo game is their extraordinary customer service. I personally have sent them 2 emails with a list of my concerns and both times, I got a full reply.....on the same day...that specifically addressed each issue....instead of some canned response. Ya know....they must have someone there that does nothing but answer emails and other forms of customer feedback.
Javry

No. Progressive cannot be supported on the component output.

Gary


Is this true? :confused: Why the heck doesn't it support progressive over component? Seemed like a perfect dvd player for me until I read this.


You can buy a $25 dvd player from Radio Shack that does progressive over component. I would think a $200 player should be able to handle it. :confused: :confused: :confused:

The Genesis/Faroudja deinterlacing chip is on the DVI board, so there's no deinterlacing over component. They could use the Mediatek chip for deinterlacing, but since there's no upscaling over component, they didn't think anyone would buy this player unless they were going to use it over DVI.

The Genesis/Faroudja deinterlacing chip is on the DVI board, so there's no deinterlacing over component. They could use the Mediatek chip for deinterlacing, but since there's no upscaling over component, they didn't think anyone would buy this player unless they were going to use it over DVI.


Ahhh, Thanks for the explination Mike.

Unfortunate for me; I wanted to hook this up to both a FP (component) and LCD TV (DVI). So unless I upgrade my FP this fall I'll have to keep looking for a different dvd player. :(

The Genesis/Faroudja deinterlacing chip is on the DVI board, so there's no deinterlacing over component. They could use the Mediatek chip for deinterlacing, but since there's no upscaling over component, they didn't think anyone would buy this player unless they were going to use it over DVI.

I say enable the progressive over component anyway. Least people will not look down on the Oppo for not being able to do progressive over component. Besides, the mediatek is a decent deinterlacer, its motion adaptive (that is, if its the same as the one used in the pioneer 588).

I cant believe the level of comittment OPPO has to its product. I have read about 3000 posts of owners nit picking a $199 product and a company responding with firmware updates. I have a Denon 1920 and was about to buy a Panasonic s97s for another TV, now I will buy the OPPO based on customer service alone.

Some people nit pick about the player. Others provide constructive criticism/feedback to assist Oppo in refining this great player.

The Genesis/Faroudja deinterlacing chip is on the DVI board, so there's no deinterlacing over component. They could use the Mediatek chip for deinterlacing, but since there's no upscaling over component, they didn't think anyone would buy this player unless they were going to use it over DVI.

and running this player through component 480i is not pretty at all. If you're looking to go analog out from the player, I'd look elsewhere. The bennies from this player can only be gained through DVI....which, BTW, is non hdcp compliant.....a favorable point, IMO.
Javry

I think you're right on track. Most of us are very impressed with this player. For me personally, it's an "okay" player with a few challenges to clear up before going prime-time. But the thing that keeps me in the Oppo game is their extraordinary customer service. I personally have sent them 2 emails with a list of my concerns and both times, I got a full reply.....on the same day...that specifically addressed each issue....instead of some canned response. Ya know....they must have someone there that does nothing but answer emails and other forms of customer feedback.
Javry

That is certainly what convinced me to buy it!

I am not completely convinced as to the PQ enhancement from an upconverting player... although the picture from my HTPC output over DVI completely blew away my former faroudja based Panasonic DVD player......

However, I personally am sick to death of getting "canned" responses to questions and emails that have absolutely nothing to do with the question I asked... I cannot even remember how many times I have had to re-write to a vendor and ask them "did you even READ" the email I sent?

Because of that I am a member of the Oppo family and will gladly get on board with anyone that is willing to offer that kind of Customer Service.

The Genesis/Faroudja deinterlacing chip is on the DVI board, so there's no deinterlacing over component. They could use the Mediatek chip for deinterlacing, but since there's no upscaling over component, they didn't think anyone would buy this player unless they were going to use it over DVI.

I emailed them and they said it was a legal issue not a hardware issue to not upgrade over component

I emailed them and they said it was a legal issue not a hardware issue to not upgrade over component

Upconverting over component is "illegal" in the sense that there is no way you can add copy right protection stuff over analog signals.

That is certainly what convinced me to buy it!

Because of that I am a member of the Oppo family and will gladly get on board with anyone that is willing to offer that kind of Customer Service.

I am a happy camper too, not only because of OPPO's high-quality product, but also their CS. They must treat CS as an ultra important department.

Please no marketing on the open forum.

Jim Christian...You post was removed and your signature removed.

Thank you.

I emailed them and they said it was a legal issue not a hardware issue to not upgrade over component

True, but it could still output 480p over component, which is the hardware issue we were discussing.

I just ordered the DV971H to go along with my new Infocus 61md10. I have located folks who already own this combination and appear to be quite happy with 720p out DVI->HDMI with no lip-sync issues at all. Two major reasons for this choice?

1- bang for the buck
2- customer support

So are there any firmware updates coming up?

I'm still waiting for the audio/video sync to be fixed.

I just received mine thursday and i have a samsung dlp and there is no lip sync problems at all. i have the new firmware and there is no pixels missing on the edge like other people notice and no shimmering at all. I was a little worried about wasting my money on a upconverting player,since the tv does it, but the change is amazing. Worth every dollar.

I just received mine thursday and i have a samsung dlp and there is no lip sync problems at all. i have the new firmware and there is no pixels missing on the edge like other people notice and no shimmering at all. I was a little worried about wasting my money on a upconverting player,since the tv does it, but the change is amazing. Worth every dollar.

I, too, thought the same thing. My Samsung TV has Faroudja chips and already does the upconvert so why should I upgrade my old DVD player? Boy was I glad that I got this player. The picture is really close to HD now. I have done comparisons using my old player, and the Oppo rocks! The picture using my old non-progressive Panny just looks muddy, the same scenes look clear and life-like using the Oppo. I see only the occasional lip-synch problems and I think it mostly the DVD that's at fault not the Oppo.

I have a Sammy HLP-4673. I did push the Oppo brightness to +5. I'm using the HDMI input on my TV. Does anybody want to post their TV settings with this setup?

Thanks.

I have a Sammy HLP-4673. I did push the Oppo brightness to +5. I'm using the HDMI input on my TV. Does anybody want to post their TV settings with this setup?

Thanks.

I too would love to know some values people are using. I've done some basic tweaking on a HLP-4667 but am waiting for my AVIA disc to arrive before I do some more messing around.

Anywhere between +3 and + 5 for brightness. My personal experience was +3 enabled me to pass WTW and BTB although tv setting was around 7/8 scale. +5 on the Oppo allowed me to be a little above 50% on the displays brightness setting.

Anyone have their remote arrive DOA? I got my 971 today, but the remote is screwed up. Customer service told me to try a firmware flash, and if that didn't work, they'd send me a new remote. Well, the firmware flash didn't work, heh. So, hopefully I hear from them tomorrow about sending me a new remote.

Anyone have their remote arrive DOA? I got my 971 today, but the remote is screwed up. Customer service told me to try a firmware flash, and if that didn't work, they'd send me a new remote. Well, the firmware flash didn't work, heh. So, hopefully I hear from them tomorrow about sending me a new remote.Did you try this:

The new firmware adds a toggle between the silvered-colored remote and the new, black-colored remote. The firmware default supports the silver-colored remote. To change it, press and hold the STOP key on the front panel of the OPPO player for 3 seconds.

Gary

Did you try this:

The new firmware adds a toggle between the silvered-colored remote and the new, black-colored remote. The firmware default supports the silver-colored remote. To change it, press and hold the STOP key on the front panel of the OPPO player for 3 seconds.

Gary

Yes, I did that, but still no luck. But thanks for mentioning it, Gary. I'm sure a lot of people overlook that small but important step.

Does the remote work at all, or is it just not working with all buttons?

I love this thread and this player....

Does anyone know of any issue with running an Oppo over DVI to a 4805 with the old firmware? I am thinking about ditching my Zenith 318 for one but I didn't want to upgrade my 4805 firmware for fear of the flicker issue some have reported.

thanks

Does the remote work at all, or is it just not working with all buttons?

Well, technically it doesn't work at all, because none of the buttons perform what they are supposed to. But I know there's a signal being sent to the player, because if you press buttons on the remote, certain things will happen, like the chapter/title display will pop up sometimes, or pressing the SETUP button will take you to a certain chapter in a movie, or the cross-out symbol will show up, etc. What's weird is that I started mashing down multiple buttons on the remote with my palm, and sometimes it would cause the dvd tray to open. Anyway, Oppo said they would send me a new remote.

Well, technically it doesn't work at all, because none of the buttons perform what they are supposed to. But I know there's a signal being sent to the player, because if you press buttons on the remote, certain things will happen, like the chapter/title display will pop up sometimes, or pressing the SETUP button will take you to a certain chapter in a movie, or the cross-out symbol will show up, etc. What's weird is that I started mashing down multiple buttons on the remote with my palm, and sometimes it would cause the dvd tray to open. Anyway, Oppo said they would send me a new remote.

I went to a projector shootout a few weeks ago and I brought my Oppo and there was another Oppo at the shootout. The other guy forgot his remote, but I had mine, and he had the other remote. His oppo saw the remote commands from my remote, but the buttons would function differently on his player. If you try the remote trick someone mentioned earlier, it should solve your problem. I'm not sure why its not working for you in this case. This was with the gray remote.

I went to a projector shootout a few weeks ago and I brought my Oppo and there was another Oppo at the shootout. The other guy forgot his remote, but I had mine, and he had the other remote. His oppo saw the remote commands from my remote, but the buttons would function differently on his player. If you try the remote trick someone mentioned earlier, it should solve your problem. I'm not sure why its not working for you in this case. This was with the gray remote.

I agree, he should do the trick again, he needs to see "new RC" on screen for the new remote to work. Maybe he did not hold down the key long enough. Try again sam.

Randy,

I am using the Oppo with my 4805 & original firmware...works great.

Have Infocus 10 meter dvi to M1 cable.

Well, technically it doesn't work at all, because none of the buttons perform what they are supposed to.

That is typical of what happens when the Oppo has not been set to receive the signals from the newer (black) remote after the firmware upgrade. Some buttons work, but not like they're supposed to. However, if you've reset the Oppo (as previously mentioned, holding down the "Stop" button on the face of the player) and it still doesn't work, the new remote should do the trick. Let us know.

Hi all -

I just ordered the Oppo player to go with my Runco CL-510 projector. This will be my first upsampling player, and I'm a little confused. Being a "Matterhorn" chip player, I believe it's resolution is 1024x576. What setting should I use on the Oppo when I get it? 480P or 540P because it's closer to the Runco's resolution, or should I try the 720P?

Thanks for any help,

Patrick

Hi all -

I just ordered the Oppo player to go with my Runco CL-510 projector. This will be my first upsampling player, and I'm a little confused. Being a "Matterhorn" chip player, I believe it's resolution is 1024x576. What setting should I use on the Oppo when I get it? 480P or 540P because it's closer to the Runco's resolution, or should I try the 720P?

Thanks for any help,

Patrick

Either way, your projector is going to be doing some scaling to get the picture to 1024x576. I would suggest you try all 3 resolutions and choose the one you like best.

Technically, you can get the Oppo to output 576p, which is progressive PAL format, however, in order to do this it is going to convert NTSC to PAL first which may degrade your picture.

Technically, you can get the Oppo to output 576p, which is progressive PAL format, however, in order to do this it is going to convert NTSC to PAL first which may degrade your picture.

I would recommend setting the NTSC/PAL option to "Auto" so that each type of disc gets output however it is encoded. None of the Oppo's output settings are an exact match for a 1024x576 projector, so it's best to output discs in their native resolutions and let the projector scale them all in one step.

sorry if this question has already been asked but:

I have seen reports that the DVI output on this unit is NOT HDCP compliant.

I thought this was illegal>???

report per: hometheaterhifi

A few pages back, someone posted that the OPPO had poorer picture quality in 480p than in 720p, and that this was well known by OPPO as well.

I didn't see that this statement was challenged in any way, so I'm wondering if this is really true?

I am running the OPPO with an Infocus 4805 in 480p, so the image will only be scaled once by the PJ. Would I be better off sending it 720p?

Thanks,

Wes

I would recommend setting the NTSC/PAL option to "Auto" so that each type of disc gets output however it is encoded. None of the Oppo's output settings are an exact match for a 1024x576 projector, so it's best to output discs in their native resolutions and let the projector scale them all in one step.


When you say "output discs in their native resolution", just set it to 480p, with the NTSC/PAL switch to "Auto"?

A few pages back, someone posted that the OPPO had poorer picture quality in 480p than in 720p, and that this was well known by OPPO as well.

I didn't see that this statement was challenged in any way, so I'm wondering if this is really true?

I am running the OPPO with an Infocus 4805 in 480p, so the image will only be scaled once by the PJ. Would I be better off sending it 720p?

Thanks,

Wes

Wes, not sure about that quote......, but I do know that the Oppo is only good when using the DVI output. If someone was comparing component output to DVI then that would certainly be the case...., but if I remember my reading correctly (I am getting old afterall) I believe it was reported that the de-interlacing chip is actually on the DVI board.... so only the DVI outputs are progressive.. so my comment may not be germane to your question.

When you say "output discs in their native resolution", just set it to 480p, with the NTSC/PAL switch to "Auto"?

Yes, using "Auto" the 480p automatically switches to 576p when a PAL disc is played.

Has anyone mentioned to Oppo Tech Support just how "wimpy" the DVD transport tray is?

Other than this my Oppo has been great so far.

Has anyone mentioned to Oppo Tech Support just how "wimpy" the DVD transport tray is?

Other than this my Oppo has been great so far.

I know a lot of folks close disk drawers using slight force on the edge to push it in.
I rarely do that, even with more robust PC drawers.
As far as the oppo goes, I drop a disk on the tray, push the button and I have no involvement with it after that until I reverse the process at removal.
If that's one area that cheaped out to meet cost, it's a non-prob for me.

Has anyone mentioned to Oppo Tech Support just how "wimpy" the DVD transport tray is?

Other than this my Oppo has been great so far.The tray may LOOK wimpy, but its actually quite robust. It does everything that it is meant to do, and very well too. My kid once whacked the tray so hard that it hit the deck below it. The tray flexed without sustaining any damage to the tray or the mechanism. I have new respect for that tray.

Here's another horror story:
I bought a new Disney DVD a month or two ago. When I arrived home, I excitedly unwrapped the package and popped the DVD in the Oppo. I did not notice that the thick plastic anti-theft device that is usually stuck to the inside of the DVD case, had somehow been stuck to the optical surface of the disk! As the disk spun up in the Oppo, I could hear the anti-theft device beating the crap out of the laser head with every revolution of the disk. My blood turned cold. By the time the disk had finally been ejected, the laser had been hit as many as 50 times. I naturally suspected that my Oppo's fate had been sealed - the "Grim Reaper" had done his work. But amazingly enough, the player's performance has been completely unaffected - it still plays everything just perfectly! I love my Oppo.

Gary

Wes, not sure about that quote......, but I do know that the Oppo is only good when using the DVI output. If someone was comparing component output to DVI then that would certainly be the case...., but if I remember my reading correctly (I am getting old afterall) I believe it was reported that the de-interlacing chip is actually on the DVI board.... so only the DVI outputs are progressive.. so my comment may not be germane to your question.

No, I'm using DVI- here are a couple of the posts, after the initial statement of 480p having problems:


Quote:
Originally Posted by Stimby
Thats most likely your internal scaler causing the problem.

Vjren:

No, you are in denial. Oppo testing shows compression of the image. Verified with 4+ types of screens. Lines are coming together on resolution patterns shown on 1:1 pixel mapped display devices.

Time for oppo to finally sort this out.

This is back on page 121.

Thanks,

Wes

Ahh........ well it is a good thing I am using 720p then!!

I know a lot of folks close disk drawers using slight force on the edge to push it in.
I rarely do that, even with more robust PC drawers.
As far as the oppo goes, I drop a disk on the tray, push the button and I have no involvement with it after that until I reverse the process at removal.
If that's one area that cheaped out to meet cost, it's a non-prob for me.

Glad to hear good things about the tray's durability... I do not use the tray for closing either, but each time I set a disc down and try and make sure it is properly aligned.. they tray bends :eek: and makes me nervous.... just getting old I guess!

Hi all -

I just ordered the Oppo player to go with my Runco CL-510 projector. This will be my first upsampling player, and I'm a little confused. Being a "Matterhorn" chip player, I believe it's resolution is 1024x576. What setting should I use on the Oppo when I get it? 480P or 540P because it's closer to the Runco's resolution, or should I try the 720P?

Thanks for any help,

Patrick

I would say 540P b/c its closest to your resolution

I just have to praise this player, it can do everything I ever wanted and much more, and at a very cheap price! Alot of people seems to have problems with audio sync, so I bought speakers from the same manufacturer just to be sure everything matches and it's perfect!

Equipment:
Fujitsu-siemnens myrica p42-1
BBK 971H (The oppo)
BBK MA-950 (Speakers) It won't let me put the URL here, but just search for it.

...Alot of people seems to have problems with audio sync, so I bought speakers from the same manufacturer just to be sure everything matches and it's perfect!


While I wish you the best happiness and luck with your setup,I can assure you that having speakers made by the same manufacturer has absolutely nothing to do with the audio sync issue of this player.

Schwaggy you must love to burst other peoples bubbles! I love you but................ !

While I wish you the best happiness and luck with your setup,I can assure you that having speakers made by the same manufacturer has absolutely nothing to do with the audio sync issue of this player.

You tell it like it is Schawggy. Did they rush the Oppo out without doing enough beta testing?

I think you'r right, but why is it working for me then? It might be the fact that I don't use a reciever. I plug the speakers directly into the player, so there's nothing that can mess up the signal. It's working for me anyway, so I'm happy ;).

I think you'r right, but why is it working for me then? It might be the fact that I don't use a reciever. I plug the speakers directly into the player, so there's nothing that can mess up the signal. It's working for me anyway, so I'm happy ;).


and ultimately what is more important than that?

I think you'r right, but why is it working for me then? It might be the fact that I don't use a reciever. I plug the speakers directly into the player, so there's nothing that can mess up the signal. It's working for me anyway, so I'm happy ;).
Does that mean the analog audio outputs stay in sync but the digital audio outputs get out of sync?

Or maybe you just haven't viewed one of the discs which demonstrate the problem. Most discs are fine in my experience.

--
Steve

[QUOTE=xpanterx]I just have to praise this player, it can do everything I ever wanted and much more, and at a very cheap price! Alot of people seems to have problems with audio sync, so I bought speakers from the same manufacturer just to be sure everything matches and it's perfect!
QUOTE]

I too am happy with the player. However, I was having problems with the lipsync. I've asked Oppo to increase their audio delay but it's not clear they can or will. I've solved the lipsync problem by purchasing the Felston -- and that works like a charm. It turns out that for my setup, I need ~180 msec of audio delay.

has any beta testing solved the lip synch problem.

Doo't know how u guys put up with it. Imagine sitting down ready to impress friends watching a movie then u have to keep pausing and playing to fix it..Not my idea of fun.

Seems like a good player, but im not buying one until the lip synch is fixed properly

It's only done it for me on 2 out of about 30 dvd's so far. One of those always requires 30ms of delay so I just remember what it needs and set it before i press play.

has any beta testing solved the lip synch problem.

Doo't know how u guys put up with it. Imagine sitting down ready to impress friends watching a movie then u have to keep pausing and playing to fix it..Not my idea of fun.

Seems like a good player, but I'm not buying one until the lip synch is fixed properly
I've only watched a few entire DVD s with the OPPO but I haven't had any problem. I have the OPPO set on 50ms delay and my receiver around 100ms. I didn't need to stop and start the player, there wasn't any lip sync problems. Although I definitely don't plan on using the OPPO as my main player now. I will be using the Sony 975 as my main player because of all the convenience features it has.

It's only done it for me on 2 out of about 30 dvd's so far. One of those always requires 30ms of delay so I just remember what it needs and set it before i press play.


This echos my experience as well. I've had the oppo for a couple of months now. The very first 3 DVDs I watched had intermittent audio synch problems. The key word being intermittent, which means that delay settings don't help. However, since then, I experience the problem very rarely, it still happens, but maybe 1 out of every 10-15 dvd's.

I've been pretty happy with the oppo. The PQ is great, and the customer service is top notch.

Rick

haha..dazbug, gday mate. Surprise to see u here as well. Well i've had the OPPO since May and although i'm still not happy with a few glitches that i may have, but i still think its a good compromise between the good and bad overall for a budget player that does so much for so little. I certainly wouldnt be a happy camper if i spent A$2000 on a player that has compatibility and lip synching issues.

My problem with the Oppo is still PAL support, where if i try to upscale a PAL dvd to 720p or 1080i, the player doesnt centre the image and 1/3 of the image is cut off from the screen. Another person (Scaven) from Sydney, Australia has that same problem. But with 576p the image is great and clear. Because I have an NEC Standard Definition plasma, this problem is something that i have to live with the player. The bizzarre thing is that with NTSC dvd's i can upscale to 720 or 1080i without any issues.

But my pro's about this player is that i plays avi's out of the box and is also region free. Lip Synch issue is a problem with 50% of dvd players out in the market, so its something i've learnt to accept. For me, i just pause the scene when the lip synch gets really bad and just unpause it again to resume the audio synch back again.

My problem with the Oppo is still PAL support, where if i try to upscale a PAL dvd to 720p or 1080i, the player doesnt centre the image and 1/3 of the image is cut off from the screen. Another person (Scaven) from Sydney, Australia has that same problem. But with 576p the image is great and clear. Because I have an NEC Standard Definition plasma, this problem is something that i have to live with the player. The bizzarre thing is that with NTSC dvd's i can upscale to 720 or 1080i without any issues.

I just tested my Oppo by upscaling a couple of PAL DVDs to 720p and could not replicate this problem. Everything looks fine on my screen. I think this may be an issue with your plasma not correctly rescaling a 50hz 720p or 1080i signal to its own native resolution.

As a test, in the Oppo setup menu change the format to NTSC then play a PAL disc at 720p. The Oppo will change the framerate to 60hz and theoretically your plasma should not be able to tell the difference between a PAL disc upscaled to 720p or an NTSC disc upscaled to 720p (which you say works OK).

here's another question... maybe dumb: Does this thing have a setting that I am missing that will allow me to pick up where I last viewed after the player powers down?

here's another question... maybe dumb: Does this thing have a setting that I am missing that will allow me to pick up where I last viewed after the player powers down?

No it does not. It is a requested feature and I'm not sure if they can implement it or not with a firmware update.

No it does not. It is a requested feature and I'm not sure if they can implement it or not with a firmware update.

I think this is a very common feature (I had previous players that could do it), I'd be suprised if they can't implement that. Let's hope it's in the next release.

This is one feature that made me choose the Sony 975 as my primary player and the Oppo as my secondary. Also hitting the power button and having the tray close instead of staying open like the OPPo does. I love the picture form the Oppo but since the Sony pic is very close, I'm using the Sony as my primary player.

Aaronwt,

The Oppo firmware release of April 13, 2005 fixed the issue of having the tray close when the power button is pushed off. At least it did for me.

The major firmware release of June 29, 2005 "...accumulatively incorporated all the fixes and new features to date." My tray still closes when I push the power button off.

Dana

I have the newest firmware but the couple of times I tried it, the tray didn't close. Still they would need to remember the disc location when powering off for me to start using the Oppo as my main player. At least if my Sony dies i know I will stilll get an excellent picture from the Oppo. I'll probably use the Oppo for video dvds only. I can't really use it untll my VP30 gets here since I am using my iscan HD+ for my HDTiVos to eliminate overscan and have my sony connected to my second HDMi input on the TV.

This might be off topic, but is the Oppo a better player than the Bravo D1 in pq and sound? I admit that, even though I like the PQ and sound of the bravo, it really is a POS. My bravo has some quirks and need to power down to keep it from fast forwarding when putting a dvd in. It's annoying!
My only concern with the Oppo is that it looks to have no track advance or ff/rw, not to mention menu control on the face.....is this true? What buttons are actually on the face? Also, can you get this dvd player in black? Thanks in advance,

This might be off topic, but is the Oppo a better player than the Bravo D1 in pq and sound? I admit that, even though I like the PQ and sound of the bravo, it really is a POS. My bravo has some quirks and need to power down to keep it from fast forwarding when putting a dvd in. It's annoying!
My only concern with the Oppo is that it looks to have no track advance or ff/rw, not to mention menu control on the face.....is this true? What buttons are actually on the face? Also, can you get this dvd player in black? Thanks in advance,

If you mean Oppo's ergonomics are not a strong selling point, you are correct. Most of what you will ever need is on the remote. Not that the remote is anything to rave about either. But as far as function and performance, it is nice for the price, with an above average HDMI output to boot. That's my quickie assessment..YMMV.

The tray closing issue is still there. It was fixed initially, but it actually caused more problems (not sure what they were) so the latest firmware does not address the issue.

I have the newest firmware but the couple of times I tried it, the tray didn't close. Still they would need to remember the disc location when powering off for me to start using the Oppo as my main player. At least if my Sony dies i know I will stilll get an excellent picture from the Oppo. I'll probably use the Oppo for video dvds only. I can't really use it untll my VP30 gets here since I am using my iscan HD+ for my HDTiVos to eliminate overscan and have my sony connected to my second HDMi input on the TV.

Are you using the power button on the remote or the unit itself? I find that the remote button closes the tray and turns off the unit while trying to do the same with the button on the unit simply does not close the tray despite powering the Oppo off. I'm using the very latest firmware release.

sjschaff,

A good catch. I should have been more clear that I was referring to use of the power button on the remote. When the tray is open and I turn the Oppo off using the remote power button, the tray closes. I am using the latest firmware.

Thanks.

Dana

i have just read this entire thread. I have a simple newbie question for you. When I play any DVD 2.35 or 1.85 i get black bars at the top. TV is set to 16:9 standard (hitachi 42HDS52). i have Oppo set to wide, no zoom. I only set this up 2 days ago so I am still working on the teaks but I was expecting full screen on 1.85 movies. I have tried DVI at 480/720/1080 with the same result. connection is the oppo supplied DVI to HDMi cable.

Any thoughts or help?

Thank you

When I play any DVD 2.35 or 1.85 i get black bars at the top. TV is set to 16:9 standard (hitachi 42HDS52). i have Oppo set to wide, no zoom. I only set this up 2 days ago so I am still working on the teaks but I was expecting full screen on 1.85 movies.

16:9 = 1.78:1 (do the math).

1.85:1 is not the same number as 1.78:1.

Why did you assume that a movie that was wider than 16:9 would fill the screen?

16:9 = 1.78:1 (do the math).

1.85:1 is not the same number as 1.78:1.

Why did you assume that a movie that was wider than 16:9 would fill the screen?

Let me butt in and note that most displays have enough overscan that 1:85 films will fill a 16:9 screen; but technically speaking, with a properly set up display, the screen should have a small amount of black top and bottom. If the Oppo is not filling up the screen with 1:85 films, it's doing exactly what it should be doing.

Are you using the power button on the remote or the unit itself? I find that the remote button closes the tray and turns off the unit while trying to do the same with the button on the unit simply does not close the tray despite powering the Oppo off. I'm using the very latest firmware release.



Things are getting really odd now. I have the latest firmware, but my tray remains open on power down from remote. This one came from Oppo just a few weeks ago.

False alarm. Double checked. Tray closes with remote power down. Sorry.

My tray does close with power off from the remote, but I never tried it until tonight with the remote. When I remove a disc I am in front of the machine and I want to hit the power button on the machine. When I push that button the tray does not close when powering down. On the Sony it does.