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09-07-05, 12:46 AM
My problem is that the bars are the same thickness as the 2.35 ratio - about 1-2 inches with the 1.85. I will have a look at the TV settings tomorrow
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View Full Version : Oppo DV971H Faroudja DCDi yourefree 09-07-05, 12:46 AM My problem is that the bars are the same thickness as the 2.35 ratio - about 1-2 inches with the 1.85. I will have a look at the TV settings tomorrow Josh Z 09-07-05, 11:31 AM My problem is that the bars are the same thickness as the 2.35 ratio - about 1-2 inches with the 1.85. I will have a look at the TV settings tomorrow What is the DVD? I'm betting that it's a non-anamorphic letterbox disc, isn't it? Black Cat 09-07-05, 01:40 PM :rolleyes: Just hooked up my new OPPO player and I'm impressed with the picture and sound quality. No adjustments or setup and everything seems to work great..........except........ :confused: I can't seem to play some of my backup discs. Copies of may favorite music videos or movies made with decrypter and dvd shrink. They play fine on my Momitsu but not on the OPPO for some reason. On the OPPO they skip and stop and just don't want to play right. Is there something I'm missing? Anyone else have issues with burned dvds and the OPPO? yarrumc 09-07-05, 02:38 PM :rolleyes: Just hooked up my new OPPO player and I'm impressed with the picture and sound quality. No adjustments or setup and everything seems to work great..........except........ :confused: I can't seem to play some of my backup discs. Copies of may favorite music videos or movies made with decrypter and dvd shrink. They play fine on my Momitsu but not on the OPPO for some reason. On the OPPO they skip and stop and just don't want to play right. Is there something I'm missing? Anyone else have issues with burned dvds and the OPPO? It's probably media compatibility with -R/+R. By simply copying the movie to a different brand disc, may fix this. Ja Phule 09-07-05, 02:42 PM I use dvd+r, -r, +rw, and -rw and they all play fine on my Oppo. It really depends on not only if the disc is +r or -r, but the quality of the media and the quality of your dvd burner. Greg Black 09-08-05, 01:11 AM That is typical of what happens when the Oppo has not been set to receive the signals from the newer (black) remote after the firmware upgrade. Some buttons work, but not like they're supposed to. However, if you've reset the Oppo (as previously mentioned, holding down the "Stop" button on the face of the player) and it still doesn't work, the new remote should do the trick. Let us know. Got the new remote today and all is well. Now I can enjoy the player :) Hagendos 09-08-05, 01:04 PM I use dvd+r, -r, +rw, and -rw and they all play fine on my Oppo. It really depends on not only if the disc is +r or -r, but the quality of the media and the quality of your dvd burner. Agreed, I haven't had any problems with any backup media in the Oppo. I stopped using generic spindle media because it was so flacky. Just use TDK and Verbatim now. I know, their spindle media is different than the jewel box stuff, but I very rarely burn a bad disk. canbeonlyplasma 09-09-05, 04:16 AM How is the 971H on a Panasonic ED plasma? Macroblocking, etc. ddrobbin 09-09-05, 12:01 PM I just purchased the Oppo DVD player - any suggestion on settings for contrast, brightness, saturation? Using with Optoma H79. B0N3 09-09-05, 12:12 PM can someone who owns the Oppo and has the DVD "Audition" please let me know if you are getting true 1:85 (covers full screen of a plasma) .. I think because of the subtitles, the picture is not filling the entire screen, but leaving black bars on the top and bottom. I just want to make sure it isn't something flaky with the Oppo .. I've ruled out possible issues with my 42" EDTV display. Thanks Ja Phule 09-09-05, 12:20 PM B0N3, There's like 5 different dvds of Audition, which one are you talking about? B0N3 09-09-05, 12:22 PM B0N3, There's like 5 different dvds of Audition, which one are you talking about? Takashi Miike's unrated directors cut version a/k/a Odishon http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/ Ja Phule 09-09-05, 12:54 PM Takashi Miike's unrated directors cut version a/k/a Odishon http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0235198/ I guess you're referring to the Region 1 dvd. http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare3/audition.htm It's not anamorphic. You'll need to use the zoom feature on the Oppo (or your display) to get it to fill correctly. B0N3 09-09-05, 01:02 PM I guess you're referring to the Region 1 dvd. http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare3/audition.htm It's not anamorphic. You'll need to use the zoom feature on the Oppo (or your display) to get it to fill correctly. cool .. thanks .. very informative site guitarman 09-09-05, 08:08 PM can someone who owns the Oppo and has the DVD "Audition" please let me know if you are getting true 1:85 (covers full screen of a plasma) .. I think because of the subtitles, the picture is not filling the entire screen, but leaving black bars on the top and bottom. I just want to make sure it isn't something flaky with the Oppo .. I've ruled out possible issues with my 42" EDTV display. Thanks The Oppo has 1 pixel underscan at the top and bottom looking at an overscan pattern. Find a way to add overscan. The best way for a fixed display is probably in the service menu. Like any monitor you can adjust the height and width. deez 09-09-05, 08:14 PM Guitarman: So what your saying is that we can adjust overscan on any display?Will this affect PQ in any way?So i should be able to do it on my hitachis500??? wwwin 09-09-05, 10:08 PM The Oppo has 1 pixel underscan at the top and bottom looking at an overscan pattern. Find a way to add overscan. The best way for a fixed display is probably in the service menu. Like any monitor you can adjust the height and width. Yes, but the manufacturers usually will not let you know how to access the service menu. And if you do adjust the overscan, then you lose a little bit of the edges of the image from sources that do not underscan. tattootearz 09-09-05, 10:13 PM *sigh*.. Guys, I got so caught up in the hype of this player... that I didnt even do the REAL reading before running out and purchasing it. I have to admit, this player is really good looking and the packaging was solid.... But I jut found out that this thing cannot upconvert to 480P over the progressive scan output. Every DVD player from here to Calamazoo can do progressive scan over Component Video so I never thought that would be something I'd have to watch out for on this player.... infact that was the last thing I expected. Oh well, my TV doesnt have DVI input, only Component Video... does anyone think a Transcoder or Adapter of some sort will work? One that will convert the DVI signal from the player to a Component Video Signal for the TV?... And if so, which one? All replies appreciated and encouraged... P.S. if you think I'm a stupid jerk/moron feel free to let me know... we'll only agree anyway. TerryJ 09-09-05, 10:25 PM *sigh*.. Guys, I got so caught up in the hype of this player... that I didnt even do the REAL reading before running out and purchasing it. I have to admit, this player is really good looking and the packaging was solid.... But I jut found out that this thing cannot upconvert to 480P over the progressive scan output. Every DVD player from here to Calamazoo can do progressive scan over Component Video so I never thought that would be something I'd have to watch out for on this player.... infact that was the last thing I expected. Oh well, my TV doesnt have DVI input, only Component Video... does anyone think a Transcoder or Adapter of some sort will work? One that will convert the DVI signal from the player to a Component Video Signal for the TV?... And if so, which one? All replies appreciated and encouraged... P.S. if you think I'm a stupid jerk/moron feel free to let me know... we'll only agree anyway. You ain't no jerk. It's definitely one shortcoming of this player. I'd save the money and go with a good player that does progressive over component... of which there are plenty out there. -Terry rickie 09-10-05, 03:32 AM :rolleyes: Just hooked up my new OPPO player and I'm impressed with the picture and sound quality. No adjustments or setup and everything seems to work great..........except........ :confused: I can't seem to play some of my backup discs. Copies of may favorite music videos or movies made with decrypter and dvd shrink. They play fine on my Momitsu but not on the OPPO for some reason. On the OPPO they skip and stop and just don't want to play right. Is there something I'm missing? Anyone else have issues with burned dvds and the OPPO? I have a standalone recorder that creates dvds with this symptom on the oppo. They play fine in onkyo player. Also, using same media, but recording on PC the dvds work fine in oppo. I've had emails from a few others that have this problem as well, thoughmore seem to have no problem. I've been in contact with oppo about this problem and they are looking at it. (both myself and another here have sent them dvds for them to check). In anyevent, I have both the oppo and the onkyo hooked up, and even with this stuttering I find I still use the oppo even for the recorded dvds because of the pq improvement. Rick Rick checklst 09-10-05, 10:21 AM I have just the opposite problem with Oppo or maybe Sony? I have 6 new titles of movies Sony/Columbia and none of the six will play the movie they all get stuck and keep looping the warning screen at the foreign language part. I have had to burn the DVD's onto a new disk using "movie only" and than they play fine. Now for another weird happening, my wife just rented a Sony/Columbia and it played fine just went right past the warning screen go figure!!!!!!!! I am starting to wonder if the company that rips the DVD’s for wal-mart is a hack, and the rental company gets their DVD movie from a different source. All 6 of my new movies came from the discount bin at wal-mart. Just a thought :) Josh Z 09-10-05, 10:41 AM I have just the opposite problem with Oppo or maybe Sony? I have 6 new titles of movies Sony/Columbia and none of the six will play the movie they all get stuck and keep looping the warning screen at the foreign language part. What are the movies? Some of us can check if we have the same discs. pdubyu 09-10-05, 11:59 AM I have just the opposite problem with Oppo or maybe Sony? I have 6 new titles of movies Sony/Columbia and none of the six will play the movie they all get stuck and keep looping the warning screen at the foreign language part. I have had to burn the DVD's onto a new disk using "movie only" and than they play fine. Now for another weird happening, my wife just rented a Sony/Columbia and it played fine just went right past the warning screen go figure!!!!!!!! I am starting to wonder if the company that rips the DVD’s for wal-mart is a hack, and the rental company gets their DVD movie from a different source. All 6 of my new movies came from the discount bin at wal-mart. Just a thought :) I have the exact same problem with my Blackhawk Down Deluxe set. I returned it for another one thinking it was a bad disc but the new one does the same. It plays fine on my other DVD players. Since it was the only disc I had with the problem, I never connected it to Columbia or any other manufacturer. For the record, I bought mine at CC. The way I get around it with my Oppo is to go to the first scene via scene selection vs. "Play Movie" from the title screen. I'd hate to burn a working disc. I thought I was the only person with the problem. Now I have a friend. ;) Perhaps there will be a fix if more than one person reports it. janolle 09-10-05, 01:20 PM Can anyone tell me about the quality of the analog outputs? And maybe information about set up options on them. wwwin 09-10-05, 01:36 PM Can anyone tell me about the quality of the analog outputs? And maybe information about set up options on them. Analog is just 480i and no reason to buy the Oppo for dusterscott 09-10-05, 01:43 PM Maybe he means the audio analog outputs? janolle 09-10-05, 01:47 PM Oops, I ment the audio outputs. :o checklst 09-10-05, 03:26 PM What are the movies? Some of us can check if we have the same discs. Just off the top of my head "The Patriot" Mel Gibson, "Swat"Samuel L Jackson, and "13 going on 30" Jennifer Garner. maxleung 09-10-05, 03:36 PM I have just the opposite problem with Oppo or maybe Sony? I have 6 new titles of movies Sony/Columbia and none of the six will play the movie they all get stuck and keep looping the warning screen at the foreign language part. Do you have region-free enabled? Some discs have been mastered such that they will not playback properly on players that have been hacked to be region-free. Set the Oppo back to Region 1 and see if they play properly...hopefully that is the problem! chengka 09-10-05, 08:30 PM I have a Panny S97 which will not sync to my projector. It works fine with other HDMI devices, but is a no go with my H76. So now you're thinking why is this guy posting in an Oppo thread. Well, I got the Panny via an employee discount for the same price as and Oppo and I am considering looking for a trade Oppo for Panny straight up. What would the disadvantages/advantages be other then HDMI and HDCP stuff? Anyone interested? pdubyu 09-10-05, 11:49 PM Do you have region-free enabled? Some discs have been mastered such that they will not playback properly on players that have been hacked to be region-free. Set the Oppo back to Region 1 and see if they play properly...hopefully that is the problem! maxleung, I tried this with my problem disc (BHD) but it didn't change anything. rickie 09-11-05, 12:40 AM Just off the top of my head "The Patriot" Mel Gibson, "Swat"Samuel L Jackson, and "13 going on 30" Jennifer Garner. I watched Patriot just the other nite using the OPPO. I didn't have any problem with it. Also no problem with Black Hawk down, though I dont beleive it was a 'deluxe' editiion. Rick Kevin Golding 09-11-05, 01:49 AM I have the exact same problem with my Blackhawk Down Deluxe set. I returned it for another one thinking it was a bad disc but the new one does the same. It plays fine on my other DVD players. Since it was the only disc I had with the problem, I never connected it to Columbia or any other manufacturer. For the record, I bought mine at CC. The way I get around it with my Oppo is to go to the first scene via scene selection vs. "Play Movie" from the title screen. I'd hate to burn a working disc. I thought I was the only person with the problem. Now I have a friend. ;) Perhaps there will be a fix if more than one person reports it. I watched this very disc two nights ago, and had the same problem. The direct play feature worked like a charm, though. Press stop and then menu, and the movie starts immediately - no menus, no FBI warnings, no hassle. checklst 09-11-05, 02:17 PM I watched this very disc two nights ago, and had the same problem. The direct play feature worked like a charm, though. Press stop and then menu, and the movie starts immediately - no menus, no FBI warnings, no hassle. Thanks Kevin that solved my problem on the six Sony/Columbia movies I had, that refused to play past the warning screens. Strange I have a few Columbia DVD's that would, but I like this non commercial button. :) Trance Dog 09-11-05, 02:45 PM I have a question about the firmware. It is very important for me to have the long filename support so the mp3 file names would be displayed properly, plus the subdirectories structure support. Has anyone tried to successfully patch the f/w or know of a hacked f/w's existence? There is a european clone called BBK. People have written a number of mods adding features and fixing bugs. I am wondering if BBK's firmware is compatible. I would really appreciate any information. For me, truncated filenames is the biggest pain in the neck. Why can't the manufacturers do it? It should be relatively easy for anybody who knows how it works. maxleung 09-11-05, 03:07 PM Trance, do you have any links discussing the BBK's firmware mods? I did a search, didn't find much except references to BBK manufacturing the Oppo. Trance Dog 09-11-05, 03:46 PM Yes, I do, but it is in Russian. I don't think it will be any use to you unless you speak Russian. Since I can read, I've got some very interesting info. However, I couldn't get a definitive answer as far as compatibility. Some people say it is compatible but the remote table is different, meaning that it needs to be replaced in MTKRemaker. But I don't know how to do that (read, where to look at in the program). I posted a question on the board but hasn't got any reply yet. A mod creator claims he was able to add a 46 character support and create some nice features. For example, he said that while watching avi files, setting different screen formats in the Oppo's setup menu would change the way a file is displayed. Currently, the Oppo firmware does not see any difference. Also, I just sent a question regarding the filenames to Oppo. 15 minutes later (on Sunday!!!) they replied to me. That's what they wrote back: "Thank you for your feature request. We have sent your request to the engineers. Hopefully they will find a way of incorporating longer file names and directory structuring in a future firmware upgrade. Best Regards, Customer Service OPPO Digital, Inc. 453 Ravendale Dr, Suite D Mountain View, CA 94043 Service@oppodigital.com Tel: 650-961-1118 Fax: 650-961-1119 " maxleung 09-12-05, 01:33 AM Trance, I assume you're talking about the BBK 971H? If so, it would be cool if some very brave soul would try flashing an Oppo with the BBK firmware - playing with fire is fun! :D Ja Phule 09-12-05, 02:14 AM I remember someone awhile back with the BBK player saying they were able to flash that player with the Oppo's firmware.... Trance Dog 09-12-05, 02:33 PM I was talking about BBK 985S. Anyway, I can confirm now that the f/w is not compatible. I did some comparison. Both f/w's look almost identical however the code section is different. Also, BBK's f/w has the remote control table which I couldn't find in Oppo. I am sure it is there I just don't know where exactly. So, I tried to incorporate BBK and Oppo into 1. Here is what I got: Confirmed: aspect ratio of avi files will change according to the screen size selected. Current;y, Oppo does not do it. Support for long filenames. However, in my mod OSD and time search went MIA, coud not play MP3s any longer. Flashed back to Original Oppo and then applied BBK mod in its entire form. That didn't work. First of all, I totally lost the remote controlm, plus it messed up the on screen menu and started giving me messages I've never even seen before. Luckily, after a couple of hours of cursing was able to restore back to the original, so all is fine now. But it proves that features that people (read, myself) rrequest can be done. Now, I have that BBK mod. If there is someone who knows how to do it wants to take look, I can e-mail it. Hopefully, we will have a custom made mod that works. tattootearz 09-12-05, 02:36 PM *sigh*.. Guys, I got so caught up in the hype of this player... that I didnt even do the REAL reading before running out and purchasing it. I have to admit, this player is really good looking and the packaging was solid.... But I jut found out that this thing cannot upconvert to 480P over the progressive scan output. Every DVD player from here to Calamazoo can do progressive scan over Component Video so I never thought that would be something I'd have to watch out for on this player.... infact that was the last thing I expected. Oh well, my TV doesnt have DVI input, only Component Video... does anyone think a Transcoder or Adapter of some sort will work? One that will convert the DVI signal from the player to a Component Video Signal for the TV?... And if so, which one? All replies appreciated and encouraged... P.S. if you think I'm a stupid jerk/moron feel free to let me know... we'll only agree anyway. Well... for anyone who might have been interested in the least bit with my Dilemma.... I found a solution. I Bought a PLASMA. Should be here in a few days. *sigh*.... Ja Phule 09-12-05, 02:51 PM Well... for anyone who might have been interested in the least bit with my Dilemma.... I found a solution. I Bought a PLASMA. Should be here in a few days. *sigh*.... That's the spirit. Why spend a few hundred on another dvd player when you can spend a thousand or two on a new plasma. :) Plasmas seem more prone to macroblocking that people see with players like the Oppo, hopefully its not the case with yours and that you read through avs to make sure it won't be. iKnowKungFoo 09-12-05, 03:16 PM Well... for anyone who might have been interested in the least bit with my Dilemma.... I found a solution. I Bought a PLASMA. Should be here in a few days. *sigh*.... <strike>See if you can try out a DVI to Component adapter before the plasma shows up.</strike> Scratch that. IT's for ATI Video cards. tattootearz 09-12-05, 03:24 PM That's the spirit. Why spend a few hundred on another dvd player when you can spend a thousand or two on a new plasma. :) Plasmas seem more prone to macroblocking that people see with players like the Oppo, hopefully its not the case with yours and that you read through avs to make sure it won't be. LMFAO!@your first comment.. I think thats what the problem is... I am doing TOO MUCH reading. I really used to enjoy my Home Theater alot more when I didnt participate in forums like this it seems. Not that I'm putting this place down because it is highly addictive to just read a thread on something your interested in... but I never see any of the issues most people see on these threads. Maybe its because Im a stupid moron/jerk... quite possible but I just dont see that stuff. I dont even think I've ever really seen the Chroma Bug with my own eyes... but I ran out and got rid of my Toshiba SD5700 Player because it was such a hot topic on these boards.... lol... I like playing the game.... I like having nice things... I have 20/20 vision and I consider myself a Home Theater enthusiast... but I just dont see most of the issues most people see on these types of forums. But again, maybe its because I'm a stupid moron. :confused: RuggeroF 09-12-05, 03:34 PM I was talking about BBK 985S. Anyway, I can confirm now that the f/w is not compatible. Trance Dog, I have a BBK 985S running with a mod Oppo f/w and it works great. All I had to do is to change the RC table with an Hex Editor. Cheers, RuggeroF Trance Dog 09-12-05, 04:39 PM Trance Dog, I have a BBK 985S running with a mod Oppo f/w and it works great. All I had to do is to change the RC table with an Hex Editor. Cheers, RuggeroF Well, I don't know how to do it because I don't know where to find the table and clearly there is not enough documentation how to modify the firmware for dummies. That is first, and second, I want BBK firmware running on Oppo, and as I said, it didn't work, and not only because of the remote control. Everything, including the settings got messed up. Have had really hard time to restore. Have you been able to patch it to add the long filename support? That is the only thing I need :-) Thanks! javry 09-12-05, 07:09 PM ..............I like playing the game.... I like having nice things... I have 20/20 vision and I consider myself a Home Theater enthusiast... but I just dont see most of the issues most people see on these types of forums. But again, maybe its because I'm a stupid moron................ You're not a stupid moron. You just haven't reached the point where you're willing to trust your own eyes and ears above other peoples opinion. In the end, it's the only real test. Learn to trust it and you'll be fine. Javry wwwin 09-13-05, 09:04 PM Well... for anyone who might have been interested in the least bit with my Dilemma.... I found a solution. I Bought a PLASMA. Should be here in a few days. *sigh*.... Be careful with burn in as the DVI input image has border all around image tattootearz 09-14-05, 09:50 AM Be careful with burn in as the DVI input image has border all around image wait a min...... you telling me that on HDTV programming, the DVI will give me a image with a black border all around it on a 42" Plasma? That doesnt make sense to me.... someone please clarify. ciphersch 09-14-05, 10:12 AM hello. I bought the Oppo and it arrived the other day. I'm very satisfied with the player except for two small issues. One of them is that when I navigate a menu and the items have audio tracks that play when they are highlighted, I hear a popping when I highlight another item. anyone have this problem? The second I guess is what people have referred to as shimmering? when looking closely at the picture there seems to be a faint but noticeable flicker. (FYI I was watching the Fellowship of the Ring). This is my first HDTV monitor so maybe i'm just not used to the picture (and it isn't as noticeable on SD) and it is in fact a DVD transfer issue? thanks in advance for shedding light on these issues. Ja Phule 09-14-05, 12:45 PM wait a min...... you telling me that on HDTV programming, the DVI will give me a image with a black border all around it on a 42" Plasma? That doesnt make sense to me.... someone please clarify. Some people with the Oppo are getting a black border around their image. This varies for all displays. It seems to be an issue with the Oppo, so if you are watching HDTV programming from your stb, it shouldn't be a problem unless there's also a problem with your box. Ja Phule 09-14-05, 12:49 PM hello. I bought the Oppo and it arrived the other day. I'm very satisfied with the player except for two small issues. One of them is that when I navigate a menu and the items have audio tracks that play when they are highlighted, I hear a popping when I highlight another item. anyone have this problem? The second I guess is what people have referred to as shimmering? when looking closely at the picture there seems to be a faint but noticeable flicker. (FYI I was watching the Fellowship of the Ring). This is my first HDTV monitor so maybe i'm just not used to the picture (and it isn't as noticeable on SD) and it is in fact a DVD transfer issue? thanks in advance for shedding light on these issues. What output did you have the Oppo at? See if this occurs on all dvds and at other output resolutions. I notice a slight "shimmer" when at 1080i, 480p and 720p is fine. Neuromancer 09-14-05, 06:51 PM The second I guess is what people have referred to as shimmering? when looking closely at the picture there seems to be a faint but noticeable flicker. (FYI I was watching the Fellowship of the Ring). If at all possible do not use 1080i. There is a major problem with the OPDV971H and 1080i where the image is very "jittery." If you see the same problem at other resolutions (such as 720p) try turning CCS on. In some instances, such as Finding Nemo, I have found that CCS stopped "shimmering" in the sense that surfaces did not seem to match up correctly. In Monster's Inc., it flickered without CCS on for some reason as well. I experienced both issues at 720p on a Panasonic 42PX50U and 1080i on a Toshiba 30HF83. Mike in Virginia 09-14-05, 07:47 PM If at all possible do not use 1080i. There is a major problem with the OPDV971H and 1080i where the image is very "jittery." If you see the same problem at other resolutions (such as 720p) try turning CCS on. In some instances, such as Finding Nemo, I have found that CCS stopped "shimmering" in the sense that surfaces did not seem to match up correctly. In Monster's Inc., it flickered without CCS on for some reason as well. I experienced both issues at 720p on a Panasonic 42PX50U and 1080i on a Toshiba 30HF83. That's not the case with me, connected via DVI/HDMI to a new Samsung 1080p display (via a DVI switching AVR). I keep my Oppo at 1080i and there's nary a shimmer or jitter. I mostly rent my DVDs so I can't go back and check out any reference disks, but I haven't had this problem at all. GSB 09-14-05, 08:58 PM I am very sensitive to the flicker on a CRT TV (or PC monitor) when its refresh rate is set to 60Hz (even 72Hz). However, I see no shimmer or jitter from the Oppo when set to 1080i and displayed on a 720p Samsung DLP set. Oppo has correctly explained that slight flicker can be expected with interlaced signals (1080i included). So it may depend on how your display handles the interlaced signal. Progressive signals are smoother than interlaced signals, and that's why some recommend using 720p if you see flickering on your display. wwwin 09-14-05, 10:29 PM wait a min...... you telling me that on HDTV programming, the DVI will give me a image with a black border all around it on a 42" Plasma? That doesnt make sense to me.... someone please clarify. I am talking about the DVI output of the Oppo specifically. It has a known flaw that the image does not cover the entire screen. Read the defect list at the beginning of this the other Oppo thread. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=491306 It has been documented. On my plasma, the border is about 5 pixels on all 4 sides wwwin 09-14-05, 10:32 PM What output did you have the Oppo at? See if this occurs on all dvds and at other output resolutions. I notice a slight "shimmer" when at 1080i, 480p and 720p is fine. Same here 1080i shimmers, the P scanning outputs do not. wwwin 09-14-05, 10:36 PM I am very sensitive to the flicker on a CRT TV (or PC monitor) when its refresh rate is set to 60Hz (even 72Hz). However, I see no shimmer or jitter from the Oppo when set to 1080i and displayed on a 720p Samsung DLP set. Oppo has correctly explained that slight flicker can be expected with interlaced signals (1080i included). So it may depend on how your display handles the interlaced signal. Progressive signals are smoother than interlaced signals, and that's why some recommend using 720p if you see flickering on your display. With my Comcast box at 1080i, I see no flickering. With Oppo at 1080i, I see flickering. Also, note this. My TV has can show what signal it is receiving. With the box it shows 1080i. With the Oppo it shows (1920 x 540) for both the 1080i and 540p settings. It does not say 1080i with Oppo at 1080i. aaronwt 09-15-05, 12:42 AM I didn't notice any shimmering at 1080i or 720P. ciphersch 09-15-05, 09:34 AM hello. I bought the Oppo and it arrived the other day. I'm very satisfied with the player except for two small issues. One of them is that when I navigate a menu and the items have audio tracks that play when they are highlighted, I hear a popping when I highlight another item. anyone have this problem? The second I guess is what people have referred to as shimmering? when looking closely at the picture there seems to be a faint but noticeable flicker. (FYI I was watching the Fellowship of the Ring). This is my first HDTV monitor so maybe i'm just not used to the picture (and it isn't as noticeable on SD) and it is in fact a DVD transfer issue? thanks in advance for shedding light on these issues. I have a Samsung TXP3064W set at 1080i. How about the audio popping issues? anyone know anything about that? Toonces T. Cat 09-15-05, 09:49 AM Thanks Kevin that solved my problem on the six Sony/Columbia movies I had, that refused to play past the warning screens. Strange I have a few Columbia DVD's that would, but I like this non commercial button. :) I could be wrong, but I believe this is an issue with the Arcos copy protection system that Sonys uses on many of their titles. All of my players...even back to the Sony DVP-S7000...run them just fine except for the Momitsu V880 which often displays the hanging problem. It's my understanding that the Arcos scheme actually involves the intentional placement of bad sectors on the disc. Apparently, players that are more computer-like such as the Momitsu and the oppo have a greater tendency to balk at playing them properly. In one onstance I had to resort to creating a back-up to watch the title. My oppo arrives tomorrow and it's good to know about the direct play option if it becomes an issuse. Has anyone tried using the oppo with an Onkyo TX-NR801 and a Sony KF50-XBR800? Other than the incredibly crappy Epo loader, using them with the V880 has been a generally good experience. I am really looking forward to the improved image the oppo will provide. In the past I used a Samsung HD-931 with this amp and LCD-RP combo, so I understand the Faroujda lip-sync issue...With the 931 it happened every now and then, but it was rare and tolerable. Thanks! -Toonces mweflen 09-15-05, 11:08 AM FYI for anyone who owns a One-For-All universal remote. OFA has recently added the Oppo signal codes to their Kameleon line. You can upgrade the remote over the phone by calling the company. Josh Z or anyone else, Do you know what key on the Kameleon remote would control the DVI resolution switching on the Oppo? I recently lost almost everything I own in a fire. However, the Oppo sans remote survived (no vents on the body of the unit, sweet) and I used it last night with the Kameleon remote (hooked to a Syntax 26" instead of my former 42" GWIII :( ). Works fine, but I'd like to be able to switch resolutions. (Luckily, it stuck with the 720p I had as a default.) Josh Z 09-15-05, 11:22 AM Do you know what key on the Kameleon remote would control the DVI resolution switching on the Oppo? Not all of the Oppo's functions transfer over to the Kameleon, just the basics like Power, Play, Stop, FF, Rew, Skip, Subtitle, Audio, etc. I can't get the Kameleon to learn the Oppo's Eject signal, for example. I don't think the DVI button will work with the Kameleon. I kept the Oppo's original remote around as a backup for that. I would email Oppo and explain your situation. I'm sure they can send you a new remote. This problem is related to the Kameleon, not the Oppo, by the way. I have the same issue with the remote not learning obscure functions on my other DVD players also. It's really only designed for the primary commands that you will use on a daily basis (and for some reason OFA doesn't consider Eject one of those). mweflen 09-15-05, 11:37 AM Not all of the Oppo's functions transfer over to the Kameleon, just the basics like Power, Play, Stop, FF, Rew, Skip, Subtitle, Audio, etc. I can't get the Kameleon to learn the Oppo's Eject signal, for example. I don't think the DVI button will work with the Kameleon. I kept the Oppo's original remote around as a backup for that. I would email Oppo and explain your situation. I'm sure they can send you a new remote. This problem is related to the Kameleon, not the Oppo, by the way. I have the same issue with the remote not learning obscure functions on my other DVD players also. It's really only designed for the primary commands that you will use on a daily basis (and for some reason OFA doesn't consider Eject one of those). Well, I have been able to get into the menu system of the oppo (button=GUIDE) which was necessary for DVE calibration (brightness +8, contrast +2, FWIW). I just recently moved to a friend's place with the 26" Syntax LCD and Oppo, and was going to go insane if I couldn't watch some mindless entertainment, so I knew I had to get a remote faster than Oppo could send one my way. I may just stick with the kameleon, I haven't decided. I can't foresee needing to switch the Oppo from 720p, but I suppose if I upgrade the firmware at some point I may need to. Eject has never been an issue for me. I always press eject on the body of the unit, since I am putting the disc in or away anyway. mweflen 09-15-05, 11:39 AM Oh, BTW - any advice on cleaning soot off the housing of the oppo and/or cleaning its connectors? Josh Z 09-15-05, 01:30 PM I may just stick with the kameleon, I haven't decided. I can't foresee needing to switch the Oppo from 720p, but I suppose if I upgrade the firmware at some point I may need to. I would ask them for a remote. It is possible that you may need one for a firmware upgrade. Neuromancer 09-15-05, 03:21 PM I would ask them for a remote. It is possible that you may need one for a firmware upgrade. I concur with Josh. If we have learned anything about Oppo over the past several months, they are more than willing to bend over backwards for their customers. A simple jesture, such as the replacement of a remote, will not phase them at all. Josh Z 09-15-05, 04:27 PM . A simple jesture, such as the replacement of a remote, will not phase them at all. Plus, I would assume they might have extras of the new black remote on hand for people whose player came with the older white remote (just a guess). schwaggy 09-15-05, 04:59 PM Plus, I would assume they might have extras of the new black remote on hand for people whose player came with the older white remote (just a guess). I wanted a new black remote "just because" and they sent one to me in 3 days, no charge. I have since switched back to the original because it's easier to use but nevertheless, they should be happy to let you have a different remote. GSB 09-15-05, 06:13 PM Oh, BTW - any advice on cleaning soot off the housing of the oppo and/or cleaning its connectors?Say what? SOOT?! Good grief man! What did you do?! You blew something up, didn't you? I'd try rubbing alcohol first... its less aggressive on paint and other surfaces. mweflen 09-15-05, 06:16 PM Thanks for the advice. I have emailed oppo both for a remote and for cleaning advice. I'll advise on their reply. mweflen 09-15-05, 06:17 PM Say what? SOOT?! Good grief man! What did you do?! You blew something up, didn't you? I'd try rubbing alcohol first... its less aggressive on paint and other surfaces. A fire burned my apartment. The fire was not caused by me. And the Oppo, love it though I do, was not first on the list of things to rush out with at 3:30 in the morning. GSB 09-15-05, 06:27 PM A fire burned my apartment. The fire was not caused by me. And the Oppo, love it though I do, was not first on the list of things to rush out with at 3:30 in the morning.Man! How terrible... I'm sorry to hear that. How much damage is there? Do you know the cause of the fire? mweflen 09-16-05, 10:18 AM Some bozo the landlord was allowing to sleep in the basement apparently fell asleep with a cigarette. The apartment is uninhabitable. I got clothes, books and dvds out, the Oppo works as I said, but furniture, other electronics, computer, and my pet cat were casualties. Oppo is mailing me a new remote gratis. Chalk up another great customer service story for them! tattootearz 09-16-05, 10:30 AM Hey man... my family and I lost everything we had in a fire back in 2001. When I say everything, I mean everything.... we were homeless for some months and struggled with our 2 yr old going from pillar to post. But man with determination and sparing ourselves the the self-pity we rebounded and rebuilt our life back up to its former plendor and beyond within 13 months. I am confident that you and your family will do just the same. Just the fact that you are even able to casually come to a forum like this and salvage some level of your livelihood is a testament of your resillience & character man. I salute you. God Bless you and yours man. On behalf of me and my family... we speak from the perspective of people who have suffered much the same. Itsdon 09-16-05, 01:48 PM You're not a stupid moron. You just haven't reached the point where you're willing to trust your own eyes and ears above other peoples opinion. In the end, it's the only real test. Learn to trust it and you'll be fine. Javry Javry, you're my hero for saying that! I too have spent many late nights with my DVE disc making sure everything is perfectly calibrated between my PJ, DVD player and AV. I swear my kids think I'm part of Devo 'cause I always have that stupid blue strip in front of my eyes while making minute unrecognizable changes in the settings to make sure it is absolutely dead on calibrated. Then I sit back, content but strangely unsatisfied. Just for kicks I switch the settings from "normal" to "dynamic 2" on my Sony DVD player and watch the colors on the screen become gloriously vibrant. Immediately I feel ripped off that I can't watch any movie this way because it isn't calibrated, it isn't perfect and surely someone will notice. Every once in a while I would put on Scooby Doo 2 and watch with my son and for that flick I would again turn on "dynamic 2" because, hey it's my son, he's 11 and doesn't care. I felt guilty in a weird way, like I was cheating! It wasn't until he said to me, "Dad, why don't you just leave that setting on all the time? The picture looks lots better" did it hit me that I must really have been anal to watch a movie that was less to my liking (and his) just because it was 'calibrated'. There is no way in heck that DVE can calibrate when that setting is on, not even close as the colors are off the chart. Thanks to the brutal honesty of an 11 year old, I'm now thoroughly enjoying my PJ in all it's vibrant uncalibrated colorful glory - guilt free. So, Javry thanks again, trust your 'own' eyes and set what you like, nobody here on this addictive little forum can see your projector but you. jdurbin 09-16-05, 02:54 PM Get this! I bought the Oppo on Amazon.com because they have free shipping and my gift card balance was almost $200 because of my Amazon.com Visa. I didn't notice that the included cable was a DVI-DVI one. I emailed Oppo and asked if we could do a trade for the DVI-HDMI one and they said, "Sure!" How's that for customer service?!?! You've got to like that! Woo hoo! GSB 09-16-05, 05:17 PM Thanks to the brutal honesty of an 11 year old, I'm now thoroughly enjoying my PJ in all it's vibrant uncalibrated colorful glory - guilt free. So, Javry thanks again, trust your 'own' eyes and set what you like, nobody here on this addictive little forum can see your projector but you.Heheheh. Good for you! Trance Dog 09-16-05, 06:42 PM Could somebody please explain me a bit about calibrating? What exactly does it do? I have a Dell 17'' LCD monitor/HDTV, if it makes a difference. Thanks! javry 09-16-05, 08:00 PM ................Thanks to the brutal honesty of an 11 year old, I'm now thoroughly enjoying my PJ in all it's vibrant uncalibrated colorful glory - guilt free. So, Javry thanks again, trust your 'own' eyes and set what you like, nobody here on this addictive little forum can see your projector but you. Glad to help. Man I love this hobby :D Javry mrpman 09-17-05, 12:25 AM Jdurbin, I did the same thing, I bought most of my HT equipment on the Amazon.com credit card and essentially got my Oppo for free from them. Once my 6 months was up for 0%, that sucker went to 15% interest, I DROPPED THAT CARD FAST. It is enticing to sign up for the Credit card because they give you a $30 credit to use immediately. OK, I must go watch the "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" now...... PS: Does anyone have a wife/family for rent? I have been watching too many movies alone and sometime its not as fun unless you can enjoy a movie with someone. I sit in my HT looking around, admiring myself for doing a good job of finishing my basement myself. Admiring that I built a play room, Office, storage, work room and HT so that the Family can Enjoy it, but then it hits me everybody else is asleep. I guess I will just have to start inviting more people over for movie night.... Toonces T. Cat 09-17-05, 09:40 AM Jdurbin, PS: Does anyone have a wife/family for rent? I have been watching too many movies alone and sometime its not as fun unless you can enjoy a movie with someone. I sit in my HT looking around, admiring myself for doing a good job of finishing my basement myself. Admiring that I built a play room, Office, storage, work room and HT so that the Family can Enjoy it, but then it hits me everybody else is asleep. I guess I will just have to start inviting more people over for movie night.... Sometimes even when you have a family you end up watching movies alone... :( Sniff...Sniff... -Toonces BTW - Got my oppo yesterday and it does NOT play Verbatim DL +R discs...Everything else looks spectacular, but it will not recognize the dual layer media DVDs that I've made. They play perfectly on a crappy ILO DVDR-04, but not the oppo... :confused: wwwin 09-17-05, 12:31 PM Sometimes even when you have a family you end up watching movies alone... :( Sniff...Sniff... -Toonces BTW - Got my oppo yesterday and it does NOT play Verbatim DL +R discs...Everything else looks spectacular, but it will not recognize the dual layer media DVDs that I've made. They play perfectly on a crappy ILO DVDR-04, but not the oppo... :confused: See if your DVD burner has a firmware upgrade, that would put compatability edges on a DL DVD. I have read that Oppo has been known to play DL + from at least both Verbatim and Memorex. broadwayblue 09-17-05, 01:16 PM anyone know if Oppo is planning to release a new model any time soon? i'd imagine the next version would include HDMI which would save me a few bucks on an adaptor. how long has the DV971H been out now? it's been around for a year already, hasn't it? MikeSRC 09-17-05, 01:18 PM anyone know if Oppo is planning to release a new model any time soon? i'd imagine the next version would include HDMI which would save me a few bucks on an adaptor. how long has the DV971H been out now? The 971H has been out for almost a year now. There are new products in the works, but it's going to be awhile before you see an upgraded 971H. Mike in Virginia 09-17-05, 01:47 PM The 971H has been out for almost a year now. There are new products in the works, but it's going to be awhile before you see an upgraded 971H. Their website lists a few upcoming projects. I'm pretty sure a DVD Recorder is moving along. Do you have any insights as to what we'll see next and when we'll see it? Ja Phule 09-17-05, 02:12 PM anyone know if Oppo is planning to release a new model any time soon? i'd imagine the next version would include HDMI which would save me a few bucks on an adaptor. how long has the DV971H been out now? it's been around for a year already, hasn't it? You can order it with the hdmi/dvi adapter at no extra cost from Oppo. Josh Z 09-17-05, 02:29 PM Could somebody please explain me a bit about calibrating? What exactly does it do? Almost all televisions, projectors, or any other display technology come out of the box with their brightness, contrast, color, and sharpness settings boosted to inaccurate levels. A calibration disc such as Avia or Digital Video Essentials will help you to dial in those settings to their correct levels. Anyone who owns a DVD player should own a calibration disc. There is no excuse not to. When you play the disc, there will be on-screen instructions to walk you through how to read the test patterns, what to look for, and how to dial in your settings. MikeSRC 09-17-05, 02:36 PM Their website lists a few upcoming projects. I'm pretty sure a DVD Recorder is moving along. Do you have any insights as to what we'll see next and when we'll see it? The DVD recorder is next AFAIK. No release date yet though. Neuromancer 09-17-05, 04:15 PM The DVD recorder is next AFAIK. No release date yet though. Word on the street is that they have the Portable DVD Player, but in the 10.2" widescreen variety. The problem: they only have a limited stock, and it will cost a wopping 350-399 dollars. Trance Dog 09-17-05, 04:40 PM You can get a 10 incher from newegg right now. Mitek or Shinco. I got a 9'' Shinco. 10'' is too big and wouldn't fit in a carrying case I have. 9'' fits my needs perfectly. MikeSRC 09-17-05, 05:38 PM Word on the street is that they have the Portable DVD Player, but in the 10.2" widescreen variety. That's true. I was thinking more in terms of new home DVD players. broadwayblue 09-17-05, 08:17 PM You can order it with the hdmi/dvi adapter at no extra cost from Oppo. thanks for the info...although i was hoping to buy it from Amazon as i have a $50 gift certificate which would in essence knock the price down 25%. also, an HDMI output would accommodate audio on one cable, an upgrade from DVI with an adaptor. not sure what to do...i really need a new DVD player as my 5 year old non-upconverting pioneer really looks horrible on my panny 700 projector. sharkshark 09-18-05, 04:54 PM it's been a while - has there even been a hint of a new firmware for the Oppo? anybody beta testing? :) Toonces T. Cat 09-18-05, 05:15 PM it's been a while - has there even been a hint of a new firmware for the Oppo? anybody beta testing? :) Got this back from OPPO Service yesterday: "We find DVD DL-+R support to be either hit or miss. Some users have had great success with Dual Layer, whereas others have had no success at all. We are looking into a future firmware upgrade that will hopefully increase the accuracy of Dual Layer support. Best Regards, Customer Service OPPO Digital, Inc." ********************************************** Their response to customer inquiries is, IMHO, nothing short of spectactular! -Toonces 91BlckGT 09-18-05, 08:27 PM Excuse me, but I have to rant for a moment, perhaps due to the irony of the situation. My old Panasonic RP32 player could play any standard pressed DVD-Video title I threw at it, but couldn't read most DVD+R and only some DVD-R. Forget about DVD-Audio, MP3/WMA, or Divx support, nada. So I bought this new-fangled Oppo player with the amazing picture quality (and it is amazing, at least compared to S-Video), and I finally picked up my second copy of "The Mummy" (the first copy being 4:3, hardly what I want to watch on my H31) in 16:9. Finally get the kids to bed, and settle down to watch it in it's wide-screen glory. Slap it in, and the dreaded "no disc" shows up. Yes, a store-brought disc from the local video mart won't play, but that bootleg PAL copy of "Willy Wonka" (the original one) sure will. I try 5 other discs, DVD-Audio, PAL, NTSC DVD-Video, the works. All play. After each one I try "The Mummy" again. No disc. So I power off the unit, unplug, and plug it back in. No disc. So now I'm ripping a copy of it to a DVD-R, in the hopes that maybe this player really doesn't have an affinity for copied discs, just to watch the movie that I wanted to watch 30 min ago. I tried the original out in the Panasonic, and of course, just to taunt me, it started right up. Same with both PC's I have here. Argh. Hopefully, whenever the next firmware arrives, they'll focus a little less on DVD+=RW compatability, and more on making sure the legal, legit titles actually work on it. /rant off, thanks for listening. rwestley 09-18-05, 09:04 PM 91BickGT, I think the problem you are having can be easily fixed. Your unit is probably set for region free (0). Change the setting to region one and that should fix the problem. There are a few disks that will not work on the region free setting. REGION CHANGING INSTRUCTIONS Press Setup on remote control to access the setup page Enter 9210 on the remote A service menu will pop up Select a region: 0- 6 in region code. 0 is all-region. Press Setup on remote again to exit The US is region 1. Ja Phule 09-18-05, 09:42 PM I just put in my collector's edition dvd of The Mummy (the original release) and it played fine. I'd be more pissed off at the dvd than the player if it didn't work on the Oppo (as much as i liked the mummy). I haven't had any problems playing any dvd backups on the Oppo. 91BlckGT 09-18-05, 11:01 PM 91BickGT, I think the problem you are having can be easily fixed. Your unit is probably set for region free (0). Change the setting to region one and that should fix the problem. There are a few disks that will not work on the region free setting. REGION CHANGING INSTRUCTIONS Press Setup on remote control to access the setup page Enter 9210 on the remote A service menu will pop up Select a region: 0- 6 in region code. 0 is all-region. Press Setup on remote again to exit The US is region 1. Good call! I remember reading about having to change the region, prior to me actually picking up the player. I'll give that a shot. The copied disc played fine, btw, so that was likely it. Thanks! Neuromancer 09-19-05, 12:21 AM Good call! I remember reading about having to change the region, prior to me actually picking up the player. I'll give that a shot. The copied disc played fine, btw, so that was likely it. Thanks! There are some RCE (Region Code Enforcement) discs which will either not play at all, or will stop at the FBI warning. As stated previously, usually changing the region back to the DVDs, you should not get into any difficulty. rwestley 09-19-05, 01:17 PM I wonder if this DVI-component adaptor will make it possible to use the Oppo at 720p and 1080i with component output since the Oppo does not use HDCP copy protection on DVI. http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041901&p_id=2398&style=&seq=1&format=1#largeimage Smarty-pants 09-19-05, 01:30 PM I wonder if this DVI-component adaptor will make it possible to use the Oppo at 720p and 1080i with component output since the Oppo does not use HDCP copy protection on DVI. http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041901&p_id=2398&style=&seq=1&format=1#largeimage Aren't component connections analog? If so it won't work as Oppo is all digital. (sorry for my ignorance, still learning) Plus if it did work, the adapter would have to be DVD-D, not DVI-I. Josh Z 09-19-05, 01:32 PM I wonder if this DVI-component adaptor will make it possible to use the Oppo at 720p and 1080i with component output since the Oppo does not use HDCP copy protection on DVI. That adaptor only works with analog DVI-I signals. The Oppo outputs digital DVI-D. rwestley 09-19-05, 02:12 PM Thanks, JoshZ, I should have realized that component is not a digital signal. Hagendos 09-19-05, 03:40 PM BTW - Got my oppo yesterday and it does NOT play Verbatim DL +R discs...Everything else looks spectacular, but it will not recognize the dual layer media DVDs that I've made. They play perfectly on a crappy ILO DVDR-04, but not the oppo... :confused: I play plenty of Verbatim DL +R on my Oppo, just watched Gladiator Extended Version backed up on this media, have also watched numerous others without a hitch. In fact I have not had the Oppo balk at any of the backup media I've fed it, including generic DVD-Rs that have given my Sony and Toshiba players fits in the past. Maybe it's your burner or burning software. Toonces T. Cat 09-19-05, 05:12 PM I play plenty of Verbatim DL +R on my Oppo, just watched Gladiator Extended Version backed up on this media, have also watched numerous others without a hitch. In fact I have not had the Oppo balk at any of the backup media I've fed it, including generic DVD-Rs that have given my Sony and Toshiba players fits in the past. Maybe it's your burner or burning software. I use a Sony DRU-700A with the VY08 firmware and burn with either a fully updated Nero 6 or DVD Fab Platinum v2.9.4.2...Can you tell me what burner and software you are using. I would happily pop the bucks for another burner and some software rather than continue coming up with expensive shiny coasters... :D I only back-up my most expensive DVDs...like the Criterions...but many of them are 3 hours or more in length. Thanks! -Toonces Hagendos 09-19-05, 06:23 PM I use a Sony DRU-700A with the VY08 firmware and burn with either a fully updated Nero 6 or DVD Fab Platinum v2.9.4.2...Can you tell me what burner and software you are using. I would happily pop the bucks for another burner and some software rather than continue coming up with expensive shiny coasters... :D I only back-up my most expensive DVDs...like the Criterions...but many of them are 3 hours or more in length. Thanks! -Toonces I have the Sony 710A with latest firmware, I used to use Nero for DL disks but had compatibility problems such as you mentioned. Since then I used DVDDecrypter (latest version, RIP) to rip an ISO, and then use Decrypter again to burn the ISO to the disk. Haven't had a coaster yet. I do use Nero 6.6 for DVD-5 -Rs with no problems however, I just think that Nero has a problem with DL burning. Maybe because it's burning the files it doesn't get the layers apportioned correctly or something. I think the people that are having problems with DL +Rs on the Oppo are probably using combinations of software and hardware burning systems that create fussy disks. The Oppo has been the most forgiving player yet in my experience with playing backup media. For example, I use a an obsolete program called DVDFab to split DVD-9s to DVD-5s. I always had problems with my Sony jumping between chapters on the second disk, no matter which chapter was selected it would jump back to the beginning of the disk. The Oppo locks on the desired chapter no problem. Now, if only had a disk recall memory and a decent remote... dromayn 09-21-05, 03:06 AM last night me and my wife watched sahara using my oppo player. i noticed that the whites are greenish in color. i tried powering it off and on but srill the same results. has anyone experience this? GSB 09-21-05, 04:17 AM last night me and my wife watched sahara using my oppo player. i noticed that the whites are greenish in color. i tried powering it off and on but srill the same results. has anyone experience this?No. Your display my need to be calibrated to the player's output. Also keep in mind that some movies (like Matrix) have a green color cast. Zipperman 09-23-05, 02:46 PM Does the Oppo player have the ability to underscan or overscan? I have a DLP with some overscan that annoys me a bit. Josh Z 09-23-05, 02:49 PM Does the Oppo player have the ability to underscan or overscan? I have a DLP with some overscan that annoys me a bit. There is no manual control over this. However, as has been discussed in the Brain Dump thread, the Oppo's picture seems to be shrunken in comparison to other DVD player images, with a 3-4 pixel border around all sides. This will not be enough to compensate for 5% overscan, but the border is visible on zero-overscan displays. GSB 09-23-05, 02:51 PM Does the Oppo player have the ability to underscan or overscan? I have a DLP with some overscan that annoys me a bit. The Oppo currently has a 3-4 pixel underscan to help with your situation. But there have been so many complaints about it from other people, that Oppo may eventually release a firmware update to correct this issue. Nevertheless, in its current configuration, the player may be just what you need. Zipperman 09-23-05, 09:12 PM The overscan bothers me enough that I'm thinking of building a home theatre PC instead and hook it up to my DLP. My current setup is this Oppo player hooked up to my DLP via DVI connection, playing at 720p. If I ever decide to go HTPC, I'm going to hook it up through RGB connection which my DLP has in the back. From reading the manual, it seems that the RGB connection is limited to 1024X768 resolution. That's inferior to the 1280X720 my current connection uses isn't it? My videocard came with a DVI adaptor, do you think I should go with that? If I do that, do I get 1280X720 res? My HTPC would be my leftover PC which is a Barton 3200+, 1 gig memory, Geforce 5700, and Audigy 2. HiHoStevo 09-23-05, 09:21 PM That's inferior to the 1280X720 my current connection uses isn't it? My videocard came with a DVI adaptor, do you think I should go with that? If I do that, do I get 1280X720 res? Depends on the software for your GeForce 5700...... If you get a copy of Windows Media Center Edition 2004 or 2005 (05 is better) then one of the default selections is 1280x720. My HTPC would be my leftover PC which is a Barton 3200+, 1 gig memory, Geforce 5700, and Audigy 2. Should work fine (except I know nothing about the video card)... get large fast HD and Windows MCE. wwwin 09-23-05, 11:16 PM The Oppo currently has a 3-4 pixel underscan to help with your situation. But there have been so many complaints about it from other people, that Oppo may eventually release a firmware update to correct this issue. Nevertheless, in its current configuration, the player may be just what you need. To help with the situation? You seem to be saying that the Oppo was intentionally designed or programmed to underscan? Is this what your are saying? GSB 09-25-05, 05:02 AM To help with the situation? You seem to be saying that the Oppo was intentionally designed or programmed to underscan? Is this what your are saying? I don't want to speak for Oppo, but the player could well have been designed that way (deliberately) to ensure that not too much of the image would be lost on a display that overscans. Some enthusiasts do like some underscan, and others don't. So it is possible that Oppo chose a compromise between zero, and typical, display overscans. Guy Kuo also alluded to that when he confirmed the Oppo's underscan issue earlier in this thread. However, Guy (and most others) do agree with you, that ideally, the image should fill the frame - if a display overscans, that's the display's issue and not the responsibility of the player. wwwin 09-25-05, 10:18 AM I don't want to speak for Oppo, but the player could well have been designed that way (deliberately) to ensure that not too much of the image would be lost on a display that overscans. Some enthusiasts do like some underscan, and others don't. So it is possible that Oppo chose a compromise between zero, and typical, display overscans. Guy Kuo also alluded to that when he confirmed the Oppo's underscan issue earlier in this thread. However, Guy (and most others) do agree with you, that ideally, the image should fill the frame - if a display overscans, that's the display's issue and not the responsibility of the player. OK, then a manually user adjustable overscan/underscan feature would accomodate every display. What's so hard about doing that thru firmware update? Maybe more people should request it, perhaps anyone here, if any, that has in the past beta tested firmware updates. aaronwt 09-25-05, 10:25 AM How many DVD players have that feature? LEVESQUE 09-25-05, 10:27 AM I was finally able to try extensively my new Oppo player, and I'm impressed. This is an awesome DVD player for the price. At home, I have a Pioneer 79AVi (pre-production) and 59Avi, a Denon 1910 and LG7832 to compare, and I have also try the Denon 3910 and Onkyo SP1000 home a couple of weeks ago. Oppo did something pretty good here. Except for the remote (that thing is a POS). wwwin 09-25-05, 10:59 AM How many DVD players have that feature? How many DVD players underscan by default? That is why is needed here it underscans by default. Josh Z 09-25-05, 04:42 PM How many DVD players have that feature? Players with Mediamatics MPEG decoders, such as the Malata line and a handful of JVCs, have a feature called "x,y scaling" that allows you to manually implent your own overscan or underscan. Unfortunately, these players have a lot of other problems like poor build quality and lousy deinterlacing that offsets this benefit. NoMore 09-25-05, 10:57 PM Hi, I'm looking forward to getting the Oppo for X'mas, from what I read some folks here are having trouble playing ripped DVDRs. It is very common or is it random? I'm also interested in the quality of the picture when a movie is ripped between 60-80%. Does the upscaling do a good job @ 1080i? I have a 4805, I like the HDTV picture, DVD is just okay, so I'm looking forward to upgrading my DVD player. Thank you for your help. aaronwt 09-25-05, 11:11 PM I didn't have any problems on the DL DVD+R or DVD+R discs I tried. But I only tried about 4 DL discs and about 15 single layer discs. I won't use the Oppo again until I get my VP30 since I don't have enough digital video inputs. TerryJ 09-25-05, 11:14 PM Hi, I'm looking forward to getting the Oppo for X'mas, from what I read some folks here are having trouble playing ripped DVDRs. It is very common or is it random? I'm also interested in the quality of the picture when a movie is ripped between 60-80%. Does the upscaling do a good job @ 1080i? I have a 4805, I like the HDTV picture, DVD is just okay, so I'm looking forward to upgrading my DVD player. Thank you for your help. I've had no problem at all with ripped DVDRs. This includes DVD+R DLs and single layer DVD-RWs. No problems whatsoever. Compressed (dual layer sized DVDs shrunk to single layer) DVDRs show a lot more compression artifacts... more blockiness. Makes sense. I think the Oppo is known to exaggerate macroblock artifacts, like all Faroudja based players. I have it upscale to 720p, which seems more stable with my set than 1080i. -Terry mbake5 09-25-05, 11:59 PM Is anyone testing the new beta firmware? Oppo support told me that the new beta firmware contains a fix for the aspect ratio problem with mpeg-4 files (DivX,Xvid) and I was curious as to how well the fix works. Neuromancer 09-26-05, 12:48 AM Hi, I'm looking forward to getting the Oppo for X'mas, from what I read some folks here are having trouble playing ripped DVDRs. It is very common or is it random? I'm also interested in the quality of the picture when a movie is ripped between 60-80%. Does the upscaling do a good job @ 1080i? I have a 4805, I like the HDTV picture, DVD is just okay, so I'm looking forward to upgrading my DVD player. Thank you for your help. The OPDV971H has not failed to playback a single DVD+R I own. I have done some DVD-DL, but not enough to say it is perfectly working. NoMore 09-26-05, 12:48 AM I've had no problem at all with ripped DVDRs. This includes DVD+R DLs and single layer DVD-RWs. No problems whatsoever. Compressed (dual layer sized DVDs shrunk to single layer) DVDRs show a lot more compression artifacts... more blockiness. Makes sense. I think the Oppo is known to exaggerate macroblock artifacts, like all Faroudja based players. I have it upscale to 720p, which seems more stable with my set than 1080i. -Terry Thanks Terry. What about really fast cutscenes? Do the edges get choppy too? Overall would you recommend this player for compressed DVDRs? I'm okay if a little blocky here and there, I just don't want headache city. RedWingsinHD 09-26-05, 12:53 AM last night me and my wife watched sahara using my oppo player. i noticed that the whites are greenish in color. i tried powering it off and on but srill the same results. has anyone experience this? I just experienced this myself today, and it only occurs when I use the DVI output (component outputs cleanly). The visual effect is similar to a projector with extremely bad convergence. For the first 4 days of operation, I did not see this problem. Has anyone else encountered anything similar to this? If so, did you manage to get it resolved? Zipperman 09-26-05, 02:27 AM Have any of you tried watching Last of the Mohicans (Daniel Day Lewis) with the Oppo? The day scene is ok, but the night scenes are pretty bad. It has macroblocks everywhere. I'm trying to figure out if I'm the only one having this problem. Not all dark scenes are bad though when I play good quality DVDs such as Collateral, Nemo, Monster Inc, Incredibles, Matchstick Men, Constantine, Spiderman 2, etc. The bad ones includes Unforgiven, Heat (the older 1 DVD version), and Last of the Mohicans. There's blocks and artifacts all over the screen but when the scene is in day time, it's all ok. manono 09-26-05, 03:19 AM Hi- What about really fast cutscenes? Do the edges get choppy too? Overall would you recommend this player for compressed DVDRs? I'm okay if a little blocky here and there, I just don't want headache city. I'd say it depends on how you're creating your DVD backups. If you use a crap 1-click transcoder such as DVD Shrink, the artifacts will show up much more quickly than if you use a real encoder, such as CCE. Using CCE, I've made a couple of hundred DVD+Rs and DVD-Rs, and have never seen problems such as the ones you're asking about. They all play great through the Oppo over DVI 720P to a Samsung DLP. My guess is that if you see such artifacts on your DVD backups, it's not the fault of the player or of the display, but of your encoding/transcoding methods. Have you checked them by playing on the computer using PowerDVD or another software player? Have you taken them to a friend's house to play on his setup? Having said that though, the Oppo certainly won't hide any artifacts. Earlier you mentioned 60-80%. If using DVD Shrink, it's often said that you shouldn't use it unless keeping it above 90%. This is especially true if viewing with a good setup. I recommend the Oppo for DVDs properly backed up to DVD+/-R. GSB 09-26-05, 03:54 AM Have any of you tried watching Last of the Mohicans (Daniel Day Lewis) with the Oppo? The day scene is ok, but the night scenes are pretty bad. It has macroblocks everywhere. I'm trying to figure out if I'm the only one having this problem. Not all dark scenes are bad though when I play good quality DVDs such as Collateral, Nemo, Monster Inc, Incredibles, Matchstick Men, Constantine, Spiderman 2, etc. The bad ones includes Unforgiven, Heat (the older 1 DVD version), and Last of the Mohicans. There's blocks and artifacts all over the screen but when the scene is in day time, it's all ok. Macroblocking is recorded on many DVD's as a by-product of over-compression. The Faroudja chip may enhance it, depending on your display, and especially if your display has not been properly calibrated to the player. GSB 09-26-05, 04:08 AM I just experienced this myself today, and it only occurs when I use the DVI output (component outputs cleanly). The visual effect is similar to a projector with extremely bad convergence. For the first 4 days of operation, I did not see this problem. Has anyone else encountered anything similar to this? If so, did you manage to get it resolved?Try turning off the sharpness. I discovered a defect that looks like bad convergence when sharpness is set any higher than OFF. It is decribed as follows in the defect list: When the sharpness is set any higher than "Off", saturated colors bleed on their vertical edges. For example, in the Oppo's setup menu, the yellow selection bar looks ragged on the left and right edges, with a band of blue/magenta next to those edges. The same effect can be seen on the Avia DVD Hue and Saturation Bars - the colors bleed into each other, and into the black text. NoMore 09-26-05, 08:42 AM Hi- What about really fast cutscenes? Do the edges get choppy too? Overall would you recommend this player for compressed DVDRs? I'm okay if a little blocky here and there, I just don't want headache city. I'd say it depends on how you're creating your DVD backups. If you use a crap 1-click transcoder such as DVD Shrink, the artifacts will show up much more quickly than if you use a real encoder, such as CCE. Using CCE, I've made a couple of hundred DVD+Rs and DVD-Rs, and have never seen problems such as the ones you're asking about. They all play great through the Oppo over DVI 720P to a Samsung DLP. My guess is that if you see such artifacts on your DVD backups, it's not the fault of the player or of the display, but of your encoding/transcoding methods. Have you checked them by playing on the computer using PowerDVD or another software player? Have you taken them to a friend's house to play on his setup? Having said that though, the Oppo certainly won't hide any artifacts. Earlier you mentioned 60-80%. If using DVD Shrink, it's often said that you shouldn't use it unless keeping it above 90%. This is especially true if viewing with a good setup. I recommend the Oppo for DVDs properly backed up to DVD+/-R. Now that shrink is so easy, that's what I've been using. I have CCE, but I haven't used it in probably a year. I'll give it a shot. I don't know anyone that has the Oppo, so I can't really test it until I buy the Oppo. I guess maybe it's time to start putting a movie on 2 DVDRs intead of shrinking. Thanks for your help. aaronwt 09-26-05, 09:11 AM The discs are cheap, just use one disc for the movie and 1 disc for the extras. It's definitely much faster since it doesn't have to compress any further/or very little. Besides it's just a backup. toocoolforwords 09-26-05, 10:24 AM I agree. deez 09-26-05, 11:47 AM Well, for me, i wont burn a dvd if it has any compression!!I will however compress things like comedy's where pq isnt as important but hten i will only max that at 90% nothing lower.If i am backing up say star wars then i will use a $4 dual-layer to burn it with. I have a friend who has about 2,000 dvd's so i just borrow and burn!!! That being said, every burned dvd i have put into the oppo has worked with no problems at all. Josh Z 09-26-05, 01:10 PM I have a friend who has about 2,000 dvd's so i just borrow and burn!!! Statements like this are treading into dangerous waters on this forum. I suggest we try to keep conversation on topic. HuskerHarley 09-26-05, 01:14 PM If you use a crap 1-click transcoder such as DVD Shrink, the artifacts will show up much more quickly than if you use a real encoder, such as CCE. Using CCE, I've made a couple of hundred DVD+Rs and DVD-Rs, and have never seen problems such as the ones you're asking about I use DVD Decrypter & Shrink with about 95-99% success (DVD-Rs)...But I might try CCE. Where can I get it and is it an all in one program or do you still need Decrypter for some? Is it as easy as the two I mentioned?..I need things fast and simple (K-I-S-S). HH Toonces T. Cat 09-26-05, 02:24 PM Greetings All! This morning I called OFA support and Dave gave me a Tag ID# for the black remote to upgrade their capture of the OPPO control. I spoke with Mason at OPPO and gave him the address, Dave's phone number, and the Tag ID# and he is going to send them a remote and fairly soon OFA should have the correct codes in place for the black remote control. Thank you Josh Z for putting me up to this... :D -Toonces Ja Phule 09-26-05, 02:30 PM Do they already provide the correct codes for the white remote? For us early adopters? :) A little off topic but... I always see people mentioning the OFA remotes can be upgraded over the phone, how does this process work? Toonces T. Cat 09-26-05, 02:37 PM Do they already provide the correct codes for the white remote? For us early adopters? :) A little off topic but... I always see people mentioning the OFA remotes can be upgraded over the phone, how does this process work? Yes they do...I already have mine working. Josh Z told me that if you hold the stop button on the 971H itself for 3 seconds it reverts to the white remote. I did this and then the OFA 1224 code started working just fine. I think I had to manually add about 3 buttons...eject, zoom, and slow. Other than that, they were all there and working just fine. The number at OFA is (330) 405-8620. You hold the top of the Kameleon against the phone's speaker and it works just like the old audio modems. -Toonces Ja Phule 09-26-05, 03:03 PM The number at OFA is (330) 405-8620. You hold the top of the Kameleon against the phone's speaker and it works just like the old audio modems. Cool. Thanks. deez 09-26-05, 03:24 PM oops...sorry manono 09-26-05, 04:39 PM Hi- use DVD Decrypter & Shrink with about 95-99% success (DVD-Rs)...But I might try CCE. Where can I get it and is it an all in one program or do you still need Decrypter for some? Is it as easy as the two I mentioned?..I need things fast and simple (K-I-S-S). I kind of agree with Josh that this is a bit off-topic, and close to the edge as far as this forum is concerned. I was about to PM NoMore with more info when I saw your post, HH. CCE (Cinemacraft Encoder) is just an encoder (although generally considered the best), so the other parts (converting your freshly encoded MPVs to Vobs and replacing them back into the DVD) require other apps. DVD Shrink is hard to beat as far as speed and ease-of-use go. However, there is another all-in-one app that's almost as easy to use, and does a much better job (although it takes more time, as you're encoding, and not transcoding). That's DVD Rebuilder. It allows the use of CCE (2-pass version is $58 and the full featured version is absurdly expensive). DVD Rebuilder also comes with a few free encoders. One of them, HC, is very good, if a bit slow. The Basic DVD-RB is free, and the Pro version costs $10, and can do multi-angle/ILVU DVDs, along with having some other extra features. Head over to Doom9, to the DVD Rebuilder Forum, read the stickies, and get DVD-RB along with the Rockas Installer to make the setup easier. If either of you give it a try and have problems, they can be answered in the forum, or you can PM me. I'm not trying to promote anything. I don't use it myself (although I am a mod at a different sub-forum there), but for the inexperienced trying to make the best possible quality DVD backups, it can't be beat. You'll still use DVD Decrypter for decrypting to the hard drive, and DVD-RB can make the ISO for you for burning with DVD Decrypter. Back on topic, sort of. Because Shrink backups at higher compressions might display macroblocking, pixelation, mosquito noise, and other artifacts, and because the Oppo tends to magnify some of these artifacts, and because many, if not most, of the members of this forum have relatively high-end systems which will also show these artifacts more readily, if you're (for example) making backups of your prized DVDs to protect the originals from the children's grubby paws, the use of a real encoder will produce much higher quality backups. If you're watching on a 20" interlaced CRT TV, then I don't guess it'll make much difference how the backups are created. But then you wouldn't have or consider buying the Oppo either. Count me as one of those that's 99% satisfied with the Oppo. The image is beautiful; it plays the interlaced and hard telecined videos wonderfully; it plays my PAL DVDs with no problems at all. For me, it'll become 100% satisfaction when the rare audio asynch problems are fixed, and it plays my AVIs in the proper Aspect Ratio. MikeSRC 09-26-05, 06:14 PM Yes they do...I already have mine working. Josh Z told me that if you hold the stop button on the 971H itself for 3 seconds it reverts to the white remote. I did this and then the OFA 1224 code started working just fine. Just to be clear, applying the 6-28 firmware upgrade to the players that had the black remote (but not the upgrade) caused the player to respond to the silver remote. Holding down the "Stop" button for 3 seconds changed the player to respond to the black remote. All players currently available will respond to the black remote out of the box. HuskerHarley 09-26-05, 06:17 PM manono Thank-U HH Toonces T. Cat 09-26-05, 07:05 PM Just to be clear, applying the 6-28 firmware upgrade to the players that had the black remote (but not the upgrade) caused the player to respond to the silver remote. Holding down the "Stop" button for 3 seconds changed the player to respond to the black remote. All players currently available will respond to the black remote out of the box. Mike, That is exactly right. The unit I purchased from you responded to the black remote out of the box. I wanted to use my OFA Kameleon to control the player. So, I downloaded the codes from OFA and pressed the stop button on the player for 3 seconds. Now the unit works with the Kameleon which is using the frequencies and key assignments from the white control...until OFA updates their capture to the black control. At that time I will download the updated 1224 capture and hold the stop button for another 3 seconds and the 971H will then revert to using the codes for the black remote. -Toonces NoMore 09-26-05, 07:59 PM Yes manono, thank you very much for your explaination. I already have CCE, I used to use it for DVD2SVCD, but that was over a year ago. I'll try DVD-RB, thanks again. B24HALL15 09-26-05, 08:52 PM I just orederd this unti for my Sanyo Z3. Am I going to be satisfied with this unit or should I have bought the Panasonic S97? I should be getting it tommorow, but I do not yet have a Sanyo Z3. So can someone please tell me I am going to love it with the Sanyo. Also, should I run this unit HDMI to DVI or use it component and buy the filters. Thanks Martin Butler 09-26-05, 11:35 PM I doubt OPPO purposely "underscanned" the picture. It's nutty to make something out of speck in order to mate with other possibly out of spec TV's. There's a standard. and every DVD player I've owned ( at least a dozen) filled the screen properly. If OPPO doesn't offer a correction, then it should be considered defective IMHO. Hey, anyone know the remote code number to program the OPPO remote unto my universal? NoMore 09-27-05, 12:08 AM Well manono, I guess I won't be using DVD-RB afterall. I installed the program, told it to use CCE, everything installation wise was fine. And in the setup I told it to use IN/OUT folder on the portable drive (F:\DVDIN & F:\DVDOUT). I tested one of my dvds, I first decrypted the DVD to my external drive, then I selected the folder in DVD-RB, then hit Prepare. First I got a low in virtual memory warning, then my computer was super slow. So I closed the program and rebooted. When I went back to My Computer, it looked like my external drive was hosed. It kept saying F: is either corrupt or unreadable. I tried chkdsk, chkntfs, and some other help online but no help. So I guess my external is now bad and I need to reformat. Good thing they're mostly backup stuff, but some I don't think I can replace. Dang it, hopefully someone at work knows how to recover my external drive. AndrewB. 09-27-05, 03:55 AM I just orederd this unti for my Sanyo Z3. Am I going to be satisfied with this unit or should I have bought the Panasonic S97? I should be getting it tommorow, but I do not yet have a Sanyo Z3. So can someone please tell me I am going to love it with the Sanyo. Also, should I run this unit HDMI to DVI or use it component and buy the filters. Thanks You should be very happy but you must NOT use it through the component inputs. You should go with 720p through the DVI/HDMI. Try turning brightness on the Oppo setup menu to +4 or +5, make sure sharpness on the Oppo is set to "off" and truelife is set to "on". Then calibrate by adjusting the image menu on the Z3 (not the Oppo) with a setup disk like Avia. Andrew rwestley 09-27-05, 06:58 AM I just received a reply about an update to the firmware from Oppo. They told me that it is Beta testing now and show be available in a few weeks. I don't know what has been fixed and I don't think any of the Beta testers are allowed to talk about it. Josh Z 09-27-05, 12:55 PM I did this and then the OFA 1224 code started working just fine. I think I had to manually add about 3 buttons...eject, zoom, and slow. You got the Kameleon to learn the Eject command? I tried several times and couldn't get that one to take. What button did you learn over? Toonces T. Cat 09-27-05, 12:59 PM You got the Kameleon to learn the Eject command? I tried several times and couldn't get that one to take. What button did you learn over? Josh, I placed "Eject" on the "Zero" button, "Zoom" on the "Five" button, and "Slow" on the "One." All worked on the first attempt...Make sure that you haven't learned something else on the key you're trying to use or it will not overwrite the command. If you have, just use the individual "IR Del" sequence to clear the key first. -Toonces MikeSRC 09-27-05, 02:10 PM Also, the Kameleon has a limited number of commands that can be learned, so if you have a number of other learned commands, you may have reached the limit. B24HALL15 09-27-05, 05:27 PM AndrewB- Thanks for the reply, any comments on this dvd player to the Sanyo Z3? wwwin 09-27-05, 09:20 PM I doubt OPPO purposely "underscanned" the picture. It's nutty to make something out of speck in order to mate with other possibly out of spec TV's. There's a standard. and every DVD player I've owned ( at least a dozen) filled the screen properly. If OPPO doesn't offer a correction, then it should be considered defective IMHO. I AGREE WITH THAT 100%, MAKE IT 110%. jdurbin 09-27-05, 09:36 PM Could somebody please explain me a bit about calibrating? What exactly does it do? I have a Dell 17'' LCD monitor/HDTV, if it makes a difference. Thanks! Many but not all TVs have settings that are off. Calibrating your TV sets it up to display as accurately as it can be. That does not mean 'better' in the sense that you will like it better. It should be more accurate. You can do maybe 90 - 95% of it yourself with a calibration disc like Avia or Digital Video Essentials for about $20 - $40 or you can pay $200 - $400 to have a professional come in and do it for you. The ISF professional will be able to do a few tests that you will not be able to do yourself jdurbin 09-27-05, 09:41 PM Jdurbin, I did the same thing, I bought most of my HT equipment on the Amazon.com credit card and essentially got my Oppo for free from them. Once my 6 months was up for 0%, that sucker went to 15% interest, I DROPPED THAT CARD FAST. It is enticing to sign up for the Credit card because they give you a $30 credit to use immediately. OK, I must go watch the "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy" now...... PS: Does anyone have a wife/family for rent? I have been watching too many movies alone and sometime its not as fun unless you can enjoy a movie with someone. I sit in my HT looking around, admiring myself for doing a good job of finishing my basement myself. Admiring that I built a play room, Office, storage, work room and HT so that the Family can Enjoy it, but then it hits me everybody else is asleep. I guess I will just have to start inviting more people over for movie night.... I charge about $5,000 per month because I am on expense account. That adds up to $50 in Amazon dollars every month to spend. I pay it off every month so I never have to worry about the 15%. I just switched to a Hilton Amex this week because I am saving up for a free week in Hawaii. jdurbin 09-27-05, 09:48 PM thanks for the info...although i was hoping to buy it from Amazon as i have a $50 gift certificate which would in essence knock the price down 25%. also, an HDMI output would accommodate audio on one cable, an upgrade from DVI with an adaptor. not sure what to do...i really need a new DVD player as my 5 year old non-upconverting pioneer really looks horrible on my panny 700 projector. I ordered it from Amazon for the same reason and then sent an email to Oppo asking if they would swap a HDMI-DVI cable for the DVI-DVI cable that ships with the Amazon one. They said "sure" and it arrived a day before the DVD player. No cost except a couple dollars to mail the DVI-DVI back to them. jdurbin 09-27-05, 09:57 PM The overscan bothers me enough that I'm thinking of building a home theatre PC instead and hook it up to my DLP. My current setup is this Oppo player hooked up to my DLP via DVI connection, playing at 720p. If I ever decide to go HTPC, I'm going to hook it up through RGB connection which my DLP has in the back. From reading the manual, it seems that the RGB connection is limited to 1024X768 resolution. That's inferior to the 1280X720 my current connection uses isn't it? My videocard came with a DVI adaptor, do you think I should go with that? If I do that, do I get 1280X720 res? My HTPC would be my leftover PC which is a Barton 3200+, 1 gig memory, Geforce 5700, and Audigy 2. If you go the HTPC route, then you can use Powerstrip to get the resolution you want. Toonces T. Cat 09-28-05, 08:57 AM I managed to solve my DVD+R dual layer problem with the OPPO last night...at least in my case... :D I have been using DVD Fab, DVD Decrypter, or Shrink...the most current version available for all three of them...to rip the back-up to the hard drive. I have been burning with Nero 6.6 in a Sony DRU-700A. All of the back-ups would play in an ILO-DVDR04 and Cyberhome 300. None of them would play in a Samsung HD-931 or in my OPPO. The only change I made last night, after doing a little on-line research, was to make sure that the burner was set to "BookType DVD-ROM" prior to burning the DL disc. You can do this in Nero or in Shrink using Nero as the burning software. Just look through the tools and options menus and you'll find it when you are using DL 8.5Gb media. This all started due to my foolishly loaning my copies of Spartacus and Kagemusha to someone for a trip. Both of the originals are badly scratched, but I was able to recover them with the DVD Fab Decrypter. Both films are also near, or longer than 3 hours. Neither is a good candidate for a DVD-9 to DVD-5 compression and I didn't want to split them over two discs. After setting the booktype to DVD-ROM both back-ups play perfectly in the HD-931 and, most importantly, in the OPPO as well. I don't know if this will help anyone else, but it definitely solved the problem for me. Two lessons learned here: Use the booktype DVD-ROM on DL +R media and never, ever, loan your DVDs to other people... :eek: -Toonces Ja Phule 09-28-05, 10:53 AM Setting the booktype for +r media to dvd-rom does increase compatibility. Some dvd burners do this automatically when burning +r media for this reason. skanan 09-28-05, 01:16 PM I followed this trade earlier and remember Oppo did not support 480p on component output. Does the situation change ? Can the firmware be updated to provide that support ? Thanks, -Nick TerryJ 09-28-05, 01:19 PM I followed this trade earlier and remember Oppo did not support 480p on component output. Does the situation change ? Can the firmware be updated to provide that support ? Thanks, -Nick The Oppo does, indeed, not support 480p on component. Apparently, the way the hardware is configured, it is not possible to update the player to support that via firmware update. -Terry HiHoStevo 09-28-05, 02:09 PM The Oppo does, indeed, not support 480p on component. Apparently, the way the hardware is configured, it is not possible to update the player to support that via firmware update. -Terry That is my understanding also....... that the de-interlacer/scaler is actually physically located on the DVI output board within the player... therefor only the DVI signals can be processed. To be able to process the component output they would need to make a hardware change to the unit...., which would then be a different model. Neuromancer 09-28-05, 02:21 PM That is my understanding also....... that the de-interlacer/scaler is actually physically located on the DVI output board within the player... therefor only the DVI signals can be processed. To be able to process the component output they would need to make a hardware change to the unit...., which would then be a different model. The MTK mainboard is more than capable of sending a progressive signal. The problem becomes in the design decision of the OPDV971H. Because the MTK mainboard does all the decoding, it sends its finished product straight to the Faroudja chipset for all upconverting and motion adaptive de-interlacing. The Faroudja chipset will only process a 480i signal correctly. If the MTK mainboard was allowed to make a progressive signal, this information would pass to the Faroudja chipset in a language it does not fully understand, therefore causing visual anamolies. Oppo decided to nix 480p support in the design phase to allow the best possible DVI output. For some this was the killer omission, for others, a little niggle. GSB 09-28-05, 04:28 PM Two lessons learned here: Use the booktype DVD-ROM on DL +R media and never, ever, loan your DVDs to other people... Thanks for sharing this! skanan 09-30-05, 03:51 AM Thanks for the reply. I guess I'll just get Panasonic S77 or something else then. I don't want to spend $145 for HDMI blade on my Monitor. The Oppo does, indeed, not support 480p on component. Apparently, the way the hardware is configured, it is not possible to update the player to support that via firmware update. -Terry digibal235 09-30-05, 10:18 AM Oppo put out a press release Wednesday "officially" introducting the OPDV971H. I feel so cutting edge. Does this mean that CNET will finally get off their asses and look at this machine? Link (http://www.oppodigital.com/Press_Release_092805.html) OPPO Digital Debuts High Performance, Upconverting DVD Player for Home Theater and HD Savvy Consumers OPPO OPDV971H Scales Standard Definition DVDs to High Definition Resolutions on HDTVs and Projectors MOUNTAIN VIEW, CALIF. September 28, 2005 – OPPO Digital, Inc., a leading A/V consumer electronics manufacturer, today officially introduced its high performance, stylish OPPO OPDV971H DVI DVD player for HDTVs and projectors. Available today with an MSRP of $249, consumers can purchase the OPDV971H from authorized resellers listed at http://www.oppodigital.com. OPPO Digital’s OPDV971H features Faroudja's Emmy award-winning DCDi® deinterlacing and cutting-edge scaling technology to up-convert standard video in DVDs to HD resolutions. DCDi (Directional Correlational Deinterlacing) technology eliminates the jagginess that conventional upconverters introduced to diagonal edges in video. Faroudja’s unique DCDi algorithm identifies all the moving edges in a scene and adjusts the angle of interpolation at each pixel so that the interpolation always follows the edge instead of crossing it, eliminating staircasing or jagged edge artifacts. Featuring a slim and elegant design, the OPDV971H also offers digital DVI output at 480p/540p/720p/1080i resolutions, which offers clearer pictures and an enhanced viewing experience. With support for DVD, DVD+/-RW, DivX, VCD, SVCD, CD+R/-RW, HDCD, WMA, Xvid, digital picture (JPEG) CDs, NTSC and PAL, OPDV971H is one of the most versatile players on the market. “As HDTVs are approaching mass appeal, OPPO Digital enables consumers to enrich their home theater and DVD viewing experience by combining performance, advanced technology, and value – as well as extending the opportunity for high resolution on-demand entertainment,” said Jin Pi, CEO of OPPO Digital. “During its initial market shipments, the OPDV971H already received a tremendous level of enthusiastic support from the home theater and A/V community. We look forward to helping more consumers get the most out of their DVD collections and high performance HDTVs and projectors.” “After owning two very expensive players, which had issues the manufacturer has failed to address, I can truthfully say that the OPDV971H is one of the best players on the market today at any price,” said Rudy Beatty, an OPPO customer, “OPPO, you rock.” About OPPO Digital, Inc. Based in the heart of Silicon Valley, OPPO Digital, Inc., manufactures and markets digital electronics for A/V enthusiasts and video savvy consumers that deliver style, innovation, value, and performance . The company's leading R&D, high-performance A/V products, and strong customer focus distinguish it from traditional consumer-electronics brands. The company is located in Mountain View , Calif. More information can be found online at http://www.oppodigital.com. I'm posting this in both Oppo threads. tattootearz 09-30-05, 10:25 AM Hey.... I just purchased a Proview RX-326 HDTV LCD as a temporary fix until I get my new Plasma set in a few weeks.... I realized that the set doesnt have a DVI input but it does have RGB, HDMI, Component & other standard connections. I purchased from a Radio Shack an DVI-I to VGA converter for about $15 to try and send a signal from my Oppo to the RGB input of the LCD.... but I cannot get a picture on the screen. I used the "DVI" button on the Oppo remote but I still get no picture. I thought RGB & DVI were interchangeable? This monitor is supposed to be capable of resolutions up to 1080P.... Any thoughts? Ja Phule 09-30-05, 10:29 AM Hey.... I just purchased a Proview RX-326 HDTV LCD as a temporary fix until I get my new Plasma set in a few weeks.... I realized that the set doesnt have a DVI input but it does have RGB, HDMI, Component & other standard connections. I purchased from a Radio Shack an DVI-I to VGA converter for about $15 to try and send a signal from my Oppo to the RGB input of the LCD.... but I cannot get a picture on the screen. I used the "DVI" button on the Oppo remote but I still get no picture. I thought RGB & DVI were interchangeable? This monitor is supposed to be capable of resolutions up to 1080P.... Any thoughts? The DVI to VGA converter you are using will take DVI-A (analog) and convert it to VGA. The Oppo only sends out DVI-D (digital) from its DVI port. You need to get the DVI to HDMI adapter. tattootearz 09-30-05, 10:31 AM Ja.... thanks alot. I will look for one of these adapters at once! maxleung 09-30-05, 11:55 AM Whoa, that new player sounds great. ... ... Hey wait a minute! Does that mean the player is out of BETA? :) digibal235 09-30-05, 02:00 PM I didn't know it was in beta.. yarrumc 09-30-05, 02:35 PM The player was never announced before? Did they think it was never going to be so big, but because of all the good reviews and experiences from us, they decided to make it public for the masses? tattootearz 09-30-05, 02:42 PM The DVI to VGA converter you are using will take DVI-A (analog) and convert it to VGA. The Oppo only sends out DVI-D (digital) from its DVI port. You need to get the DVI to HDMI adapter. Hey Ja.... I got a question... I was scouring the web today and I came across this cool little Radio Shack item... Do you think either of these will do the trick with the existing DVI cable that I have? HDMI to DVI Adapter (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=15-2619) OR DVI to HDMI Adapter (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=15-2618) Anyone think this will work with the Oppo and my TV that only has a HDMI input? AndrewB. 09-30-05, 03:03 PM AndrewB- Thanks for the reply, any comments on this dvd player to the Sanyo Z3? I should have mentioned that I am running it into a Z2 (which is pretty similar to the Z3) and it is spectacularly good. Andrew Ja Phule 09-30-05, 03:06 PM Hey Ja.... I got a question... I was scouring the web today and I came across this cool little Radio Shack item... Do you think either of these will do the trick with the existing DVI cable that I have? HDMI to DVI Adapter (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=15-2619) OR DVI to HDMI Adapter (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=15-2618) Anyone think this will work with the Oppo and my TV that only has a HDMI input? The DVI to hdmi adapter should work for you (not the HDMI to dvi adapter, you don't have a dvi input). Neuromancer 09-30-05, 03:20 PM The player was never announced before? Did they think it was never going to be so big, but because of all the good reviews and experiences from us, they decided to make it public for the masses? I think they were afraid fo two things: competition and growth. Competition in the sense that other companies might pressure them out of the market. Growth because they are a small operation. They do not want to grow beyond their abilities, only to have to downscale in the future when the fat is leaner. It looks like they want a slow, gradual (natural) growth. Plus, this announcement comes just in time for prime ordering season. With this announcement, magazines, websites, and other places carrying technological news might give a blurb or two about the 971H, further increasing Oppo as a "household" name. Or they just recently found their announcement documents. Neuromancer 09-30-05, 03:25 PM Do you think either of these will do the trick with the existing DVI cable that I have? HDMI to DVI Adapter (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=15-2619) OR DVI to HDMI Adapter (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=15-2618) Anyone think this will work with the Oppo and my TV that only has a HDMI input? I would recommend this DVI (Female) to HDMI (Male) Adapter (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041902&p_id=2080&seq=1&format=2&style=) from Monoprice.com. It will be about 5~6 dollars shipped. tattootearz 09-30-05, 03:47 PM I would recommend this DVI (Female) to HDMI (Male) Adapter (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041902&p_id=2080&seq=1&format=2&style=) from Monoprice.com. It will be about 5~6 dollars shipped. Hey Neuro... thanks alot. I'd easily save myself $25. Radio Shack should be ashamed! Plague on their homes! Neuromancer 09-30-05, 04:36 PM Hey Neuro... thanks alot. I'd easily save myself $25. Radio Shack should be ashamed! Plague on their homes! No, Monster should be ashamed. They are overpriced for what you get. But some people swear by them. CJayB 09-30-05, 07:46 PM Hey Neuro... thanks alot. I'd easily save myself $25. Radio Shack should be ashamed! Plague on their homes! That Radio Shack price is also full retail for this item; you can get the Monster adapter much cheaper if you look around and if you don't want to trust a no-name adapter in your system (personally I doubt there is any difference worth mentioning between the Monster adapter and the other one being linked to). rwestley 09-30-05, 09:29 PM I have used the Monoprice adaptor and compared it to the Monster. I liked the Monoprice better because it is a little lighter and does not put a strain on the HDMI cable. It works fine. wwwin 09-30-05, 11:01 PM Hey.... I just purchased a Proview RX-326 HDTV LCD as a temporary fix until I get my new Plasma set in a few weeks.... I realized that the set doesnt have a DVI input but it does have RGB, HDMI, Component & other standard connections. I purchased from a Radio Shack an DVI-I to VGA converter for about $15 to try and send a signal from my Oppo to the RGB input of the LCD.... but I cannot get a picture on the screen. I used the "DVI" button on the Oppo remote but I still get no picture. I thought RGB & DVI were interchangeable? This monitor is supposed to be capable of resolutions up to 1080P.... Any thoughts? Oppo and NEW plasma currently not a good match as Oppo underscans (image does not fill whole screen on DVI output), may burn new plasma glass unevenly. Oppo has indicated that working on problem but not known when firmware that would fix it will be available. wwwin 09-30-05, 11:21 PM I think they were afraid fo two things: competition and growth. Competition in the sense that other companies might pressure them out of the market. Growth because they are a small operation. They do not want to grow beyond their abilities, only to have to downscale in the future when the fat is leaner. It looks like they want a slow, gradual (natural) growth. Plus, this announcement comes just in time for prime ordering season. With this announcement, magazines, websites, and other places carrying technological news might give a blurb or two about the 971H, further increasing Oppo as a "household" name. Or they just recently found their announcement documents. The king of speculation TerryJ 10-01-05, 12:19 AM The king of speculation What player are you using now, dude? I am sure you're still not using the much hated Oppo. -Terry wwwin 10-01-05, 10:02 AM What player are you using now, dude? I am sure you're still not using the much hated Oppo. -Terry The absence of blind love is not equivalent to hate. dusterscott 10-01-05, 10:19 AM So you must have figured out how to fill your beloved plasma screen, otherwise you wouldn't still be using the Oppo right? wwwin 10-01-05, 10:43 AM So you must have figured out how to fill your beloved plasma screen, otherwise you wouldn't still be using the Oppo right? I had already posted that I have to zoom with the TV, which causes some loss of resolution and is a problem with subtitles. This problem will exist until your beloved Oppo corrects the underscan defect. digibal235 10-03-05, 11:38 AM Oppo and NEW plasma currently not a good match as Oppo underscans (image does not fill whole screen on DVI output), may burn new plasma glass unevenly. Oppo has indicated that working on problem but not known when firmware that would fix it will be available. I haven't noticed underscan, but my TV overscans a little (not so much that I'd adjust it); so I guess I could be averaging out. Can you not adjust overscan with your plasma? Charles J P 10-03-05, 12:31 PM I was wondering if there was an underscan problem with the Oppo. I have an Optoma H31 projector and on certain titles there is a boarder at the top and bottom of the movie (about 3-5% of the height). This was never there on these same movies on my Sony projector. Neuromancer 10-03-05, 01:31 PM I was wondering if there was an underscan problem with the Oppo. I have an Optoma H31 projector and on certain titles there is a boarder at the top and bottom of the movie (about 3-5% of the height). This was never there on these same movies on my Sony projector. The OPDV971H does indeed underscan. How much so, I do not know because each display type does some form of overscanning. Though I will guess 5% or less based on the sizes of the boarders I have seen on several projectors, plasma and LCD displays. GSB 10-03-05, 03:45 PM The OPDV971H does indeed underscan. How much so, I do not know because each display type does some form of overscanning. Though I will guess 5% or less based on the sizes of the boarders I have seen on several projectors, plasma and LCD displays.Please read this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5862009&&#post5862009) by Guy Kuo, who properly tested the underscan issue and reported on it some time ago. Neuromancer 10-03-05, 04:18 PM Please read this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5862009&&#post5862009) by Guy Kuo, who properly tested the underscan issue and reported on it some time ago. The problem with his testing is that he "guestimates" how much information is being underscanned. I would love to have concrete numbers, but even Oppo doesn't know how much of an underscanning they are doing. wwwin 10-03-05, 09:52 PM I haven't noticed underscan, but my TV overscans a little (not so much that I'd adjust it); so I guess I could be averaging out. Can you not adjust overscan with your plasma? Unfortunately, the only way with my TV would be to get into the service menu, which I have not been able to find out how to get in there. :mad: wwwin 10-03-05, 09:53 PM I was wondering if there was an underscan problem with the Oppo. I have an Optoma H31 projector and on certain titles there is a boarder at the top and bottom of the movie (about 3-5% of the height). This was never there on these same movies on my Sony projector. Yes, there is an underscan problem, there is nothing wrong with your projector. wwwin 10-03-05, 09:56 PM The problem with his testing is that he "guestimates" how much information is being underscanned. I would love to have concrete numbers, but even Oppo doesn't know how much of an underscanning they are doing. On my system, I get about 1/2 black border all around the image. wwwin 10-03-05, 10:00 PM Bottom line - the OPPO doesn't quite perfectly map the DVD pixmap the 1280 x 720. It's something a bit smaller within that. They probably have a hard time picking an exact output size because different displays are set up with varying overscans by people. It's hard to pick out who to listen to when all your customers give you conflicting reports. Can't Oppo do their own test on this issue??? Why rely on what other report so much. They should be able to ascertain what the underscan is. dgkp 10-04-05, 03:37 AM With respect to underscan/overscan: the avia test disc shows a loss of 1.5 pixels at the bottom and 1 pixel at the top of the picture on an AE700 at 720p , DVI to HDMI (I guess what little loss there is would need to be scaled.... ). From side to side the Oppo + pj shows 100% of the image: no loss whatsoever, so any image in 1:1.85 or 1:2.35, for example, should be showing in its entirety as only the black bars would be clipped. The black boarder issue appears to be something else which doesn't relate to image loss except the 2.5 pixels noted above. Maybe it's just to the way the image framed, and it could look like underscan. Bad luck for the plasma owners. Martin Butler 10-04-05, 09:20 AM It's obvious that OPPO should use the standard spec of 1280 X 780 and let the chips fall where they may. If for instance say.. 75% of the displays made would benefit from underscanning that might be different. I for one would like them to simply offer a firmware fix for this already. DaViD Boulet 10-04-05, 09:52 AM Just to be clear...is the OPPO masking with a border but not applying any rescaling to "resize" the image so the pixels from a native 1280 x 720 image would remain in the same place? cheneyp 10-04-05, 10:30 AM I have an RCA 50" DLP and I have noticed no underscanning while playing any disc thru the Oppo - doesn't mean it's not there; just not affecting my set... Josh Z 10-04-05, 10:52 AM Just to be clear...is the OPPO masking with a border but not applying any rescaling to "resize" the image so the pixels from a native 1280 x 720 image would remain in the same place? No, it appears that the image has been very slightly scaled down to a smaller size. No picture content is missing from DVD movies, but you aren't getting accurate 1:1 pixel mapping. Hagendos 10-04-05, 11:37 AM I have an RCA 50" DLP and I have noticed no underscanning while playing any disc thru the Oppo - doesn't mean it's not there; just not affecting my set... Ditto with my Visio P50 plasma, about a 3% overscan actually. ronjon2 10-04-05, 12:50 PM Just got my Oppo - had a DVI to DVI cable included. I needed a DVI to HDMI. E-mailed their Customer support and within 5 min had an answer that one would be in the mail tomorrow. I've seen some pretty high prices on these things. Horray for good Customer Support! Mr. Kite 10-04-05, 04:09 PM Hmm, the remote control for my Oppo seems to have inexplicably reprogrammed itself. That is to say when I press the play button, the disc stops, and when I press the down arrow key the volume goes up, etc. Is there some way to fix this? Nothing on the player has been changed, and I did put new batteries in the control to no luck. Neuromancer 10-04-05, 04:15 PM Hmm, the remote control for my Oppo seems to have inexplicably reprogrammed itself. That is to say when I press the play button, the disc stops, and when I press the down arrow key the volume goes up, etc. Is there some way to fix this? Nothing on the player has been changed, and I did put new batteries in the control to no luck. Your 971H has reverted to the Old RC (silver remote) IR frequency. Turn on your 971H and your television. Eject any disc that may be inside, remove it, and then close the tray. Wait for the message "No Disc" to appear in the upper left corner of your television. Press and hold the Stop button on the front panel of the 971H for 3~5 seconds (this process may require you to press very, very hard). Release the button and the message "New RC" should appear in the upper left corner of your TV for several seconds. Mr. Kite 10-04-05, 06:54 PM Your 971H has reverted to the Old RC (silver remote) IR frequency. Turn on your 971H and your television. Eject any disc that may be inside, remove it, and then close the tray. Wait for the message "No Disc" to appear in the upper left corner of your television. Press and hold the Stop button on the front panel of the 971H for 3~5 seconds (this process may require you to press very, very hard). Release the button and the message "New RC" should appear in the upper left corner of your TV for several seconds. Worked like a charm, thanks. wwwin 10-04-05, 09:56 PM It's obvious that OPPO should use the standard spec of 1280 X 780 and let the chips fall where they may. If for instance say.. 75% of the displays made would benefit from underscanning that might be different. I for one would like them to simply offer a firmware fix for this already. Yes. AndrewB. 10-05-05, 12:12 PM No, it appears that the image has been very slightly scaled down to a smaller size. No picture content is missing from DVD movies, but you aren't getting accurate 1:1 pixel mapping. No, I think you could still be getting 1:1 pixel mapping between the OPPO and the DISPLAY (projector). It's just that some of those pixels are output from the Oppo as black - they can still be 1:1 mapped. Given that you are starting with a 480i image on the disk and sending out (in most cases here) a 720p image, there can't be 1:1 pixel mapping between what is on the DVD and what appears at the DVD's output anyway. If that's not correct then please explain where I went wrong in the logic... Andrew Josh Z 10-05-05, 01:43 PM No, I think you could still be getting 1:1 pixel mapping between the OPPO and the DISPLAY (projector). It's just that some of those pixels are output from the Oppo as black - they can still be 1:1 mapped. Given that you are starting with a 480i image on the disk and sending out (in most cases here) a 720p image, there can't be 1:1 pixel mapping between what is on the DVD and what appears at the DVD's output anyway. If that's not correct then please explain where I went wrong in the logic... You're technically correct. It's really a matter of semantics in terminology. You'll get 1:1 pixel mapping from the output of the Oppo to the display, but the output of the Oppo is not using all of the 720x480 pixels in the source. The Oppo "underscans" whether you output 480p or an upscaled resolution. Set for 480p, it technically outputs 720x480 pixels, which is the same resolution as the DVD. However, some of those pixels are creating the small black border around the image, which means that the original 720x480 pixels in the source have been slightly downscaled to a smaller size (712x472 if we assume a consistent 4 pixel border on all sides). DaViD Boulet 10-05-05, 04:19 PM yeah...I think that's what I meant...thanks Josh! dave :) Mindless Drone 10-05-05, 04:47 PM Has anyone had any problems with using an Oppo with a Sanyo Z2? I purchased on and received it last week. I hooked it up to my z2 and could not get it to work propperly. It looks like a sync issue to me. I played with all the settings but it never made a difference. I am thinking I may have just gotten a bad unit. I also have a momitsu and it works just fine with my projector. Any ideas? The problem is there when the player is in 480p, 720p and 1080. Same problem for all. Mindless Drone 10-05-05, 04:57 PM Just a quick add to my last post I am using DVI out. Neuromancer 10-05-05, 08:25 PM Has anyone had any problems with using an Oppo with a Sanyo Z2? I purchased on and received it last week. I hooked it up to my z2 and could not get it to work propperly. It looks like a sync issue to me. I played with all the settings but it never made a difference. I am thinking I may have just gotten a bad unit. I also have a momitsu and it works just fine with my projector. Any ideas? The problem is there when the player is in 480p, 720p and 1080. Same problem for all. I would presume that this is just a bad unit. For the most part, Z2 users who experience improper playback who have received replacement/repaired units did not experience further problems. Contact Oppo and request a RMA. Mindless Drone 10-05-05, 08:47 PM Funny thing is I just got another one from Amazon today and the exact same thing was wrong. I will try to work through oppo now. Mindless Drone 10-05-05, 10:06 PM Here is a pic of the problem. It is the exact same problem on both oppo units. Neuromancer 10-06-05, 03:58 AM Here is a pic of the problem. It is the exact same problem on both oppo units. Out of curiosity, have you attempted to press the P/N mode to toggle between NTSC and PAL? I have seen this type of layering in the PAL signal, but not in the NTSC signal. AndrewB. 10-06-05, 08:07 AM The Oppo works fine into my Z2 on all DVI output resolutions (although the best is 720p). I mainly use R2 DVDs but I have the Oppo's output set to auto (not PAL or NTSC) and the Z2's input I think set similarly. Try resetting the Z2 to its default settings, then make sure the input is set to Input 2 HDCP and see if that works. I can send you my picture settings which are further up in this thread somewhere - but you have a more fundamental problem to sort out first! Andrew Mindless Drone 10-06-05, 08:57 AM Out of curiosity, have you attempted to press the P/N mode to toggle between NTSC and PAL? I have seen this type of layering in the PAL signal, but not in the NTSC signal. Yes, it does the same thing in Auto, NTSC, and PAL. I will attempt to do a factory default reset on the Z2 tonight and see what that does. I am very anxious to get this up and running. Neuromancer 10-06-05, 03:09 PM Yes, it does the same thing in Auto, NTSC, and PAL. I will attempt to do a factory default reset on the Z2 tonight and see what that does. I am very anxious to get this up and running. I am looking forward to your results. Mindless Drone 10-06-05, 03:49 PM I just heard back from Oppo and they are at a loss as to what could be causing this. The sugested the restore factory defaults and if that does not work do a firmware upgrade. I sure hope the defaults work because I do not want to mail it in and be without it while the firmware is being upgraded. jriihi 10-06-05, 03:56 PM I just heard back from Oppo and they are at a loss as to what could be causing this. The sugested the restore factory defaults and if that does not work do a firmware upgrade. I sure hope the defaults work because I do not want to mail it in and be without it while the firmware is being upgraded. You tried different cable? Seems wierd problem. Oppo works fine with Z3 and it should work without problems with Z2. DaViD Boulet 10-06-05, 04:07 PM You can do a firmware upgrade yourself with a CD...you shouldn't have to send it back in just for that... Ja Phule 10-06-05, 04:08 PM I just heard back from Oppo and they are at a loss as to what could be causing this. The sugested the restore factory defaults and if that does not work do a firmware upgrade. I sure hope the defaults work because I do not want to mail it in and be without it while the firmware is being upgraded. Are there any settings on the z2 specifically for the dvi port that need to be changed? Mindless Drone 10-06-05, 04:35 PM You tried different cable? Seems wierd problem. Oppo works fine with Z3 and it should work without problems with Z2. Well I don't think it is the cable because the projector works just fine with my Momitsu and a PC. Mindless Drone 10-06-05, 04:37 PM You can do a firmware upgrade yourself with a CD...you shouldn't have to send it back in just for that... I was talking about a firmware upgrade on the Z2 not the Oppo, sorry I have already upgraded the firmware on that. Ja Phule 10-06-05, 05:20 PM Are you using the dvi cable that came with the Oppo? The Momitsu and your pc dvi most likely are DVI-I (digital and analog) and it may be one reason why it works differently than the Oppo (which is DVI-D digital even though it has a DVI-I output connector). Mindless Drone 10-06-05, 07:56 PM No my theater is a dedicated theater and my projector is mounted on the ceiling with the DVI cable ran behind the sheetrock. If I have to replace the cable.......well that will never happen. However I will try, for test purposes, the one that came with the dvd player. Mindless Drone 10-06-05, 08:54 PM Are you using the dvi cable that came with the Oppo? The Momitsu and your pc dvi most likely are DVI-I (digital and analog) and it may be one reason why it works differently than the Oppo (which is DVI-D digital even though it has a DVI-I output connector). Ja Phule, you called it right. It is my cable I held the dvd player up and used the factory cable and it worked fine. Well this is very disapointing. I will have to tear up a lot of stuff to change out the cable and I am not sure it is worth it for the Oppo. Some times it just does not seem like I can catch a break in my theather! So what are my options for quality DVD players if I want to keep the DVI-I cable. BTW thanks to everyone for the help! Mindless Drone 10-06-05, 09:10 PM I just did some research and according to pictures I saw DVI-I has pins bout and below the flat piece off to the side on the connector and my cable does not have those which would indicate that it is a dvi-d right? Either way I know it is the cable. I may have to look into a panasonic dvd player. Neuromancer 10-06-05, 09:54 PM I just did some research and according to pictures I saw DVI-I has pins bout and below the flat piece off to the side on the connector and my cable does not have those which would indicate that it is a dvi-d right? Either way I know it is the cable. I may have to look into a panasonic dvd player. A DVI-D cable will be missing the pins around the small "fin" on the left, and missing 6 pins (2X3) in the middle. Mindless Drone 10-06-05, 10:16 PM In "theory" insn't a dvi-i cable able to pass the dvi-d signal? Ja Phule 10-07-05, 12:48 AM In "theory" insn't a dvi-i cable able to pass the dvi-d signal? Yup. It's possible that maybe those extra 4 pins (used for analog) is doing something to interfere with the picture. Maybe you can pull them out somehow. Maybe there's some sort of dvi-i to dvi-d adapter that you could use on both ends. Mindless Drone 10-07-05, 09:04 AM After looking at my cable last night I am 99.9% sure I am using a dvi-d dable. The cable I am running does not have the 2 pins above and below the flap (not sure what you call the flate piece). I did notice 1 pin looks pushed in a bit. I will work on that tonight and see if that fixes the problem. I know it has to be the cable, just need to figure out what is causing it. chengka 10-07-05, 11:38 AM After looking at my cable last night I am 99.9% sure I am using a dvi-d dable. The cable I am running does not have the 2 pins above and below the flap (not sure what you call the flate piece). I did notice 1 pin looks pushed in a bit. I will work on that tonight and see if that fixes the problem. I know it has to be the cable, just need to figure out what is causing it. Drone, Here's nice link explaining the differences in DVI complete with diagrams. If you have a DVI-A cable, you have a problem. DVI-I is not a separate format, but a combination pinout of both DVI-A and DVI-I. Also, how long is your installed cable? Signal strength varies from device to device. Your cable may be too long for the Oppo signal. Some of the nicer DVI switches may include a signal amplifier. It may be worth $200 to keep the sheetrock in place. jdurbin 10-07-05, 12:18 PM Hey Neuro... thanks alot. I'd easily save myself $25. Radio Shack should be ashamed! Plague on their homes! I have the InFocus 61md10 with an HDMI jack and the OPPO from Amazon.com which came with a DVI-DVI cable. I sent an email to OPPO asking fi they would mail me a DVI-HDMI cable for my DVI-DVI one. They said, "Sure" and I got it before I got the OPPO from Amazon. I wanted to order from Amazon because I had $150 of gift certificates with them. OPPO didn't even charge me postage on the cable. I think I paid about a buck to mail them the DVI-DVI one. jdurbin 10-07-05, 12:23 PM Just got my Oppo - had a DVI to DVI cable included. I needed a DVI to HDMI. E-mailed their Customer support and within 5 min had an answer that one would be in the mail tomorrow. I've seen some pretty high prices on these things. Horray for good Customer Support! If you order from oppodigital.com you get to choose which cable you want. If you order from Amazon, as I did, you get the DVI-DVI cable as the default cable. I did like you as soon as I ordered from Amazon and the HDMI-DVI cable arrived before the DVD player. Their customer service is great! Mindless Drone 10-07-05, 01:50 PM Drone, Here's nice link explaining the differences in DVI complete with diagrams. If you have a DVI-A cable, you have a problem. DVI-I is not a separate format, but a combination pinout of both DVI-A and DVI-I. Also, how long is your installed cable? Signal strength varies from device to device. Your cable may be too long for the Oppo signal. Some of the nicer DVI switches may include a signal amplifier. It may be worth $200 to keep the sheetrock in place. You know that may be the problem. It is a prettly long run that is right there at maximum length. I know I am running a dvi-d cable. I do have a switcher, I will give that a try and see if that helps. If my current switcher does not work, I will look into a different one. I appreciate all the help. Neuromancer 10-07-05, 02:32 PM You know that may be the problem. It is a prettly long run that is right there at maximum length. I know I am running a dvi-d cable. I do have a switcher, I will give that a try and see if that helps. If my current switcher does not work, I will look into a different one. I appreciate all the help. The OPDV971H does have a much weaker DVI signal than most other units out on the market. If your switcher can amplify the signal, you may be in luck. MikeSRC 10-07-05, 03:43 PM I currently feed the Oppo to a Gefen 2X1 DVI switcher with a 20' DVI cable, through a DVI-to-HDMI adapter to a DLP projector. Haven't had any problems with that combo. Mindless Drone 10-07-05, 04:19 PM I just talked to Oppo, they are pretty sure it is the cable lenghth. They did say this "The OPDV971H produces a slightly weak DVI output compared to the competition." So I have a Gefen 2x1 brand new in the box, so I will fire that up and give it a try. I will keep my fingers crossed. dusterscott 10-07-05, 04:46 PM When I first bought my Geffen switcher it was their 2 x 1 DVI unit. It wouldn't work with the Samsung 841 DVD Player and my Sony LCD RP TV. I ended up going with their HDMI switcher and used adaptors on the ends of the DVI cables that plug into the switcher. The HDMI version worked fine with the Sammy and also works well with the Oppo. My symptoms were different than yours though as I just had a snowy screen. George Cifranci 10-08-05, 02:45 AM I just ordered a Oppo OPDV971H DVD player that should be here next week. I also ordered a 60" Sony SXRD HDTV. The Sony SXRD has a 1080P native resolution but only accepts up to 1080i input. What do I tell the Oppo to output? 720P? 1080i? or is this something I will have to experiment with myself to see what looks better? CT_Wiebe 10-08-05, 04:24 AM You have to experiment, but I would guess that 1080i will be better. Right now, there are no 1080p sources. The result you get depends on which signal (720p or 1080i) that your KDS-R60XBR1 decodes the best. NOTE: The 720p must be scaled to 1080p, 1080i just needs to be converted to 1080p, a simpler task. Mindless Drone 10-08-05, 10:26 AM Last night I hooked up Geffen switcher and the Oppo works great now. This thing rocks, and sure looks a lot better tham the Momitsu. Thanks guys for the help. You guys really helped me figure this out, I never could have done it without you!! Thanks. Dixie Flatline 10-08-05, 10:46 AM I just ordered a Oppo OPDV971H DVD player that should be here next week. I also ordered a 60" Sony SXRD HDTV. The Sony SXRD has a 1080P native resolution but only accepts up to 1080i input. What do I tell the Oppo to output? 720P? 1080i? or is this something I will have to experiment with myself to see what looks better? Likely 1080i would be best, but you'll probably need to experiment to make sure. When you get them hooked up, though, please let us know how they work together. I'm currently debating whether to go with a Sony player or the Oppo for the SXRD. |