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GSB
12-15-05, 02:50 PM
Thanks GSB. Can anyone help me with the LCPM setting. What does it mean and how can I figure out if my receiver supports it. I am using a digital coax cable to a Sony DA4ES. I explained LPCM in this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5408574&&#post5408574). Your receiver will support LPCM, but look in your Sony manual to figure out what bit-rate it supports.

SJK
12-15-05, 03:41 PM
The spec sheet for the receiver says 96k/24Bit PCM...so I should set the Oppo LPCM to 96?

Neuromancer
12-15-05, 06:59 PM
The spec sheet for the receiver says 96k/24Bit PCM...so I should set the Oppo LPCM to 96?

That is correct.

Neuromancer
12-15-05, 07:04 PM
Has anyone noticed the new OPPO remote has it all backwards? The buttons used constantly, (stop, rewind, fast forward,etc.) are on the bottom, so you can't use one hand, whereas the buttons used infrequently (numbered buttons) are easy to reach with your thumb. DON'T THE PEOPLE DESIGNING THESE THINGS EVER TRY ACTUALLY USING THEM ????.

The remote control is designed really right handed. The remote design basically assumes you will be using your right hand, with your index finger running right below the Title, Up navigation, and Menu button. The base of the remote will be at the very bottom of your palm, Your thumb is thus positioned on Select. It is a little ackward getting to some of the buttons in this design, but I have no problem using it one handed.

SJK
12-15-05, 11:00 PM
That is correct.

Thanks Neuromancer and GSB. Hey - do you guys know why I can't get a DVD to show over 48kh (?) but I can get a DVD-A to show 96kh? I tried a DTS and a Dolby EX DVD. Are most DVD's 48?

Smarty-pants
12-15-05, 11:33 PM
99.9% of dvds ARE 48, yes.

cavender
12-16-05, 09:57 AM
I've enjoyed my 42HDS52 plasma for the past few weeks and find the HD content exceptional and even the SD quality is nice. However, I've been disappointed with the DVD quality. Perhaps the HD picture is so "pure" that I am expecting too much. There is no "wow" factor on any DVD I play.
I recently got the Oppo DVD player and hooked it up via HDMI input and am still not "wowed". People's Faces seem unclear, not sharp like watching a HD tv broadcast.
I've read most of the posts here and have made adjustments. Am I expecting too much or am I doing something wrong? Switching beween my Panasonic DVD player and Oppo yields no noticeable improvements to me so I'm tempted to return the Oppo and wait to be "wowed" by more expensive HD dvd players when content is available. Thanks ahead of time.

HiHoStevo
12-16-05, 10:43 AM
cavender..........

The more you watch HDTV the less wowed you will be by anything else...

I find after watching a Discovery Channel show in HD or a good transfer of a movie in HD when I switch back to SDTV I think something is wrong with my eyes!

Remember those darn DVD's only have 480 lines of resolution to play with... we were all wowed by them when coming from a VHS tape that only has 240 lines..., but we have quickly adjusted to the 1080i and 720p broadcasts and now see them as "normal."

Bytehoven
12-16-05, 11:00 AM
I agree with HiHiSteve.

The OPPO image falls inbetween an unassisted DVD player and HD. Once you get used to a HD image, the DVD source, even a very clean and well mastered DVD, falls short of the HD experience.

However, the OPPO is still worthwhile as it keeps the DVD experience from being worse.

HuskerHarley
12-16-05, 03:43 PM
I agree with HiHiSteve.

The OPPO image falls inbetween an unassisted DVD player and HD. Once you get used to a HD image, the DVD source, even a very clean and well mastered DVD, falls short of the HD experience.

However, the OPPO is still worthwhile as it keeps the DVD experience from being worse.

We have a couple of plasmas in our home and the image of HD is "Incredible"....But I still like to watch movies (OPPOIZED) projected on a GIANT screen with a kick ass surround sound system.

Can't wait till HD-DVD players come down to my price range.

HH

Mondrin
12-17-05, 02:10 PM
Just got my oppo yesterday and so far don't see any marked improvement from my old Marantz DV4000. My sony TV has a good line doubler so I'm guessing this is the reason. I have yet to calibrate the picture with this new player so I'm hoping that will improve things a little. Sound seems to be comparible to the Marantz. The Oppo is much more responsive and having it do 1080i output causes my set to autoselect the widescreen mode (4x3 set) which is much nicer than having to do it manually every time.

One question, my TV is a HD CRT so will I get better picture using 720p or 1080i? I do seem to notice a difference between the two but it's hard to quantify. No marcoblocking that I can see so far. The picture is a little soft now but we'll see how it looks after it's adjusted.

HiHoStevo
12-17-05, 02:16 PM
Mondrin............

What input are you using for your Sony CRT?

If you are not using the DVI/HDMI input you will not get a good picture from the Oppo.

bruin95
12-17-05, 05:01 PM
One question, my TV is a HD CRT No marcoblocking that I can see so far.

You shouldn't see any macroblocking on a CRT.

CJayB
12-17-05, 06:13 PM
You shouldn't see any macroblocking on a CRT.

I have a Sony 4:3 CRT HD TV and see a lot of macroblocking unless my set is carefully calibrated. I do however have to convert DVI (720P) out of the Oppo to 1080i component into my CRT (using an iScan HD+) so maybe this conversion process is why I've seen some macroblocking. I've also seen some rare instances of macroblocking using SDI through the HD+.

GSB
12-17-05, 06:19 PM
One question, my TV is a HD CRT so will I get better picture using 720p or 1080i? I do seem to notice a difference between the two but it's hard to quantify. I assume you are using DVI/HDMI?! The 1080i output would theoretically be the best resolution for your set, but not always... it depends on the input stage and other factors. So test both 720p and 1080i, evaluate the picture quality critically, and pick the one that looks best to you.

GSB
12-17-05, 06:36 PM
I've also seen some rare instances of macroblocking using SDI through the HD+.Interesting. Many people do not realize that macroblocking exists on a DVD as a result of MPEG compression, much like the compression artifacts (blockiness) in a JPEG image. The higher the compression ratio, the worse the blocking. The macroblocking on an overly-compressed DVD transfer can be seen on any good TV and DVD player. It is the macroblock enhancement that becomes a problem in a Faroudja player.

strandbiker1
12-17-05, 09:50 PM
Currently, I do not have any HDTV equipment, but I want to update my current equipment so as to be HDTV compatible. Will the Oppo 971H work well with an 27" Sony analog XBR television and a Yamaha RXV 1000 AV receiver? I really do want a DVD player that will pass DTS audio. I am also planning to purchase a Yamaha RXV 4600 AV receiver that I will use with the Oppo 971H.

TIA for the help.

Skip

GSB
12-17-05, 10:17 PM
Will the Oppo 971H work well with an 27" Sony analog XBR television and a Yamaha RXV 1000 AV receiver? I really do want a DVD player that will pass DTS audio. The OPPO is a good choice if your TV has digital DVI/HDMI inputs, or if you are planning to upgrade to a digital HDTV later. The OPPO would be a waste if you only have analog inputs... there are cheaper alternatives.

The OPPO should work fine with your receiver. If the receiver has a DTS encoder, the OPPO can pass DTS on the digital output. Otherwise, the OPPO can decode the DTS and pass it on the 6 analog outputs.

Smarty-pants
12-18-05, 10:46 AM
99.9% of all dvd players on the market right now can PASS DTS. Now decoding DTS is another story, most of the budget players do not have built in DTS decoders. However, most HT receivers will decode DTS, so useing a player that will pass DTS and a reeceiver that will decode it is a good combo.
Unless you're planning on upgrading to HDTV within the next year, then I would not purchase the Oppo. Like GSB said, there are better alternatives, like even finding a higher-end used 480p player for a bargain price, giving you a fantastic dvd picture till you do finally go HD.

CJayB
12-18-05, 01:18 PM
Interesting. Many people do not realize that macroblocking exists on a DVD as a result of MPEG compression, much like the compression artifacts (blockiness) in a JPEG image. The higher the compression ratio, the worse the blocking. The macroblocking on an overly-compressed DVD transfer can be seen on any good TV and DVD player. It is the macroblock enhancement that becomes a problem in a Faroudja player.

Agreed. Some discs will show macroblocking using any DVD player or display. I've found that those discs that display MB on players without Faroudja processing, will just look a little worse with Faroudja processing (horribly worse if the display isn't calibrated properly).

Venomous21
12-18-05, 01:56 PM
Does anyone with the Westinghouse LTV-32w1 also have the Oppo OPDV971H player? What are your MB experiences? What are your dvi lip sync issues, if any? I plan to set it to 720p upscale.

Thanks.

justsc
12-18-05, 02:12 PM
...One question, my TV is a HD CRT so will I get better picture using 720p or 1080i? I do seem to notice a difference between the two but it's hard to quantify. No marcoblocking that I can see so far. The picture is a little soft now but we'll see how it looks after it's adjusted.
My hd set is a directview crt and I find 720p to have the best PQ. I get a "pulsing" effect when using 1080i, and 480p is "jumpy."

720p is crisp, clear and outstanding.

bitemymac
12-18-05, 02:30 PM
Does anyone with the Westinghouse LTV-32w1 also have the Oppo OPDV971H player? What are your MB experiences? What are your dvi lip sync issues, if any? I plan to set it to 720p upscale.

Thanks.

I don't have the 32" ,but I use it on the 37" Westy without any MB problems at all. I have the monitor calibrated using Avia/THX. As for the DVI lip sync, I don't think it's tied to the monitor/tv, but more to do with oppo player alone and the dvd contents you're watching. It did happen few times, but you can resync it by stopping and playing the contents again. Actually, one thing I do notice now is that the lip sync delay often occurs when I change dvd settings(like turning on truelife or NR feature) while playing a dvd hehind the menu window.

dusterscott
12-18-05, 02:49 PM
You shouldn't go into the menu while watching a dvd because this usually induces video delay. It's better to press stop first. Lip sync can be caused by the dvd (the way it was mastered), partially because of the Oppo, and partially because of your display. If your dvd and/or display is causing video delay, you have to compensate by adding audio delay. I rarely see it. It only occurs on a small percentage of dvd's and if it happens during a dvd, press stop and then play again and the video and audio will re-sync. I just leave my audio delay at 50 ms at rarely see a problem.

Josh Z
12-18-05, 09:53 PM
99.9% of all dvd players on the market right now can PASS DTS. Now decoding DTS is another story,

To add to this, 100% of current year model DVD players can pass DTS. The only DVD players that ever did not pass DTS were first-generation models from 1997. By 1998, DTS passthrough had become a standard feature across all brands and models.

Smarty-pants
12-19-05, 01:44 AM
Hmmm, well?, I'll have to disagree slightly Josh :). I did say 99.9%. There are still some players that won't pass it... some of those 'el-cheapo deals, what some refer to as "disposable" players. You know, the ones that cost $30 or even $20. I've seen one just about three months ago that wouldn't pass it. Kind-of a long story taht I won't bore y'all with, but anyway, they're out there still.

Ja Phule
12-19-05, 01:54 AM
Not to mention the Silvania HDMI Upconverting player with Faroudja, does not pass DTS. :)

joe12south
12-19-05, 09:18 AM
Got my Oppo on Friday. Connected via 50 ft of HDMI cable to an Optoma H78. Gorgeous pic after minimal Avia tweaking. No sparklies, this player puts out a strong DVI signal (My cable box sparkles.) No audio sync issues as of yet. I really dig the styling and build quality.

My main feature request? A mode in which when you insert a disc, it begins playing the main feature automatically. That would make it the perfect player for me.

cmeinck
12-19-05, 10:21 AM
Is there any difference in a video signal coming via DVI rather than HDMI? Is it worth waiting for an HDMI model of this player or simply use a DVI to HDMI cable. I'd be sending audio out via an optical cable.

Anyone using this with the Sony Bravia XBR LCD?

Thanks.

joe12south
12-19-05, 10:26 AM
DVI-D (digital) over HDMI cable is exactly the same signal as DVI-D over DVI cable.

HDMI cables use a smaller connector (easier to run through walls) and have the ability to carry sound and more bits per channel, so it is a more future proof cable. Use DVI adapters and you're good to go.

Smarty-pants
12-19-05, 10:31 AM
No difference in video quality there cmeinck. DVI is video, HDMI is video+audio. Just use...
a) HDMI - HDMI cable with a DVI adapter on one end.
b) DVI - DVI cable with an HDMI adapter on one end.
c) HDMI - DVI cable

So no need to postpone your enjoyment of high-def-like dvd video. Go ahead and buy the Oppo if you have no other reservations.

dgkp
12-19-05, 10:33 AM
My main feature request? A mode in which when you insert a disc, it begins playing the main feature automatically. That would make it the perfect player for me.

You can often force this. Either wait for disc to load then press stop and then menu, which should take you to the beginning of the film. Or, when you see DVD-Video in the top left corner of the display immediately hit menu, which takes you straight to the menu. One or both of these work on maybe 8/10 DVDs.

Dave

joe12south
12-19-05, 10:46 AM
Thanks, Dave. I was aware of this feature but what I want is to hit no button. Just insert the disc and plant my butt in the seat. If for some odd reason I want to do something other than watch the movie, then I can hit "menu."

I've always wanted this feature, and Oppo seems like the one company that might actually listen to their customers.

dgkp
12-19-05, 11:33 AM
Thanks, Dave. I was aware of this feature but what I want is to hit no button. Just insert the disc and plant my butt in the seat. If for some odd reason I want to do something other than watch the movie, then I can hit "menu."

I've always wanted this feature, and Oppo seems like the one company that might actually listen to their customers.


I take your point. Will any company do this? Also, some DVD, especially some Warner DVDs which have language navigation upfront, might make such a feature difficult to implement. Copying (sorry, back up) software seems to cope with removing these features, though, and a default language could be set, I guess.

We'd all like it, though.

Dave

Rich Malloy
12-19-05, 12:17 PM
No difference in video quality there cmeinck. DVI is video, HDMI is video+audio. Just use...
a) HDMI - HDMI cable with a DVI adapter on one end.
b) DVI - DVI cable with an HDMI adapter on one end.
c) HDMI - DVI cable

So no need to postpone your enjoyment of high-def-like dvd video. Go ahead and buy the Oppo if you have no other reservations.

I don't believe this is true. Here are Kris Deering's comments on this:

Originally Posted by SECRETS of Home Theater & HiFi
There is a common misconception in the electronics world that DVI and HDMI are identical except for HDMI’s ability to carry multi-channel audio signals on top of video. This is not true. DVI outputs 8 bit RGB signals only and cannot carry 10 bit video like HDMI can. In fact, HDMI is actually capable of 12 bit transmission as well. What does this buy you? Well if you are lucky enough to have a display with an HDMI input, you can significantly reduce the contouring artifacts that are commonly associated with digital displays. A lot of this may depend on the internal processing of your display though too. This is one of the gripes I’ve had with DLP based projectors and displays. Most are DVI-based and only incorporate 8 bit processing internally. So contouring in gray ramps is quite evident. You’ll also usually see it in skies and underwater scenes. If you are lucky enough to have a display with an HDMI input, and with high bit processing, this is pretty much eliminated.

buckman1
12-19-05, 12:32 PM
joe12south,

I find the biggest problem for me with the oppo is the tray. It is super flimsy and scares me how easy it might be to break. I'd actually wish for either a sturdier tray, or a slit that you insert the movies into like the mac dvd/cd drives.

As for playing movies automatically, if you own the DVD, why not make a backup of the movie only and burn a dvd witht he mvoie. Some movies will take more than the 4.7GB of space on a blank dvd, but many will fit nicely or with little compression. This cuts out the menus and extras. Plays like a superbit dvd, but without the extra quality.

I just bought a cheap epson printer (R320) that prints on printable media so that I could copy my owned dvds for backups, but put nice prints on them to mimic the actual dvd. Never use labels on dvds as they'll warp and ruin.

dusterscott
12-19-05, 01:01 PM
I've never heard of anyone breaking a tray on this player.

Hagendos
12-19-05, 01:06 PM
joe12south,

I find the biggest problem for me with the oppo is the tray. It is super flimsy and scares me how easy it might be to break. I'd actually wish for either a sturdier tray, or a slit that you insert the movies into like the mac dvd/cd drives.

I just bought a cheap epson printer (R320) that prints on printable media so that I could copy my owned dvds for backups, but put nice prints on them to mimic the actual dvd. Never use labels on dvds as they'll warp and ruin.
The tray is pretty flexible, but doesn't break easily. One owner sited an experience where his kid grabbed the extended tray and bent it straight down. It flexed back up and worked perfectly. I keep wondering what people are doing with these trays to make them worry so much? Put the disk in and hit the retract button on the remote or the unit - what's the big deal?

I've been using labels on DVD's and CD's for years, have yet to have one "warp", how are you storing them? Also, I tried some printable TDK spindle media from Costco when they had a two for one sale. I found that they didn't play on players other than the Oppo as well as silver top TDK spindle media bought at Fry's. I just use the printable stuff for backing up TV shows and low priority video now.

Ja Phule
12-19-05, 01:14 PM
It's been mentioned earlier back that in asia, dvd players featuring this try were labeled "children friendly."

LeeLee
12-19-05, 01:15 PM
I've had my Oppo for a few months now and have noticed a couple of problems that I wonder if others have run into.

Once in a while, the player will stop in the middle of playback, as if someone has clicked the stop button. I can then press play and it will resume playback. It happens sporadically and even though I'd like to say it happens more on some disks than others I can't point to any correlation at all. It does it with all different types of disks. Some times it would not do it in a week but then happen 3 times in one hour. I suspect that it may be heat related and now keep the glass door on my component rack open. Anyone else notice this?

Yesterday was the first time I noticed another problem. I just rented Mr and Mrs Smith and thought that the picture was really red. Even the black bars had a red tinge to it so I knew it wasn't the DVD material. Everything else looks fine on my TV so it couldn't have been that. I brought up the Oppo's setup menu and the grey back ground was a dull shade of magenta. So I powered off the player and turned it back on, everything was fine and the picture was normal again.

Anyone else bump into these issues?

joe12south
12-19-05, 02:20 PM
Rich,
The main point is that an HDMI cable will carry a DVI signal completely unmolested. (I'm doing so with a 50' cable.)

As far as the 8bit RGB versus 10bit YUV argument, that is purely a matter of the HDMI spec, and has nothing to do with the physical cabling.

Regardless, there is NO consumer source which provides higher than 8bit. Higher bit rates are used in the displays internal processing to avoid rounding errors, but this has nothing to do with the displays inherent tech (DLP, LCD, etc.)

Bud-man
12-19-05, 02:30 PM
I just oredered the Oppo,returned a LG511 yesterday....did i do the right choice?
I have a Panny PM50u ED plasma, how and what settings should i use for best picture?
Are there alot of adjustments in the menu?

Kris Deering
12-19-05, 02:31 PM
Rich,
The main point is that an HDMI cable will carry a DVI signal completely unmolested. (I'm doing so with a 50' cable.)

As far as the 8bit RGB versus 10bit YUV argument, that is purely a matter of the HDMI spec, and has nothing to do with the physical cabling.

Regardless, there is NO consumer source which provides higher than 8bit. Higher bit rates are used in the displays internal processing to avoid rounding errors, but this has nothing to do with the displays inherent tech (DLP, LCD, etc.)

Um, yes there are consumer sources with higher than 8 bit outputs. Granted the original source (DVD) is 8 bit, but there are a lot of players out there that use 10 bit video processing in the player and will output a 10 bit YCbCr signal from their HDMI output.

Rich Malloy
12-19-05, 02:35 PM
Rich,
Regardless, there is NO consumer source which provides higher than 8bit. Higher bit rates are used in the displays internal processing to avoid rounding errors, but this has nothing to do with the displays inherent tech (DLP, LCD, etc.)
Maybe we're misunderstanding one another, but I'm of the impression that there are DVD players with 10-bit processing capable of output via HDMI, even very inexpensive models and even at the same price as the Oppo. I'm thinking the Panasonic S97 and S77 offhand, but I seem to recall that there are others in the "budget" price category as well. In fact, doesn't the Oppo itself have 10-bit processing? (Pity it doesn't have an HDMI output.)

Mondrin
12-19-05, 02:53 PM
I'm using DVI to connect the oppo with my sony 32HV600. I once tested the DVI from my HD cable box and know that it is much darker than the component input. I calibrated the oppo using my AVIA disc this weekend and ran through a series of my movies to compare. I'm not familiar with what some of the settings on the oppo do (truelife, cross color supression and noise reduction) so I left them default. The comparison of my old Marantz dv4000 wasn't perfect as the 4 settings you get on the sony (vivid, standard, movie, and pro) are slightly different even if all set the same on the menu. I have the marantz on movie and the oppo on Pro. Color calibration was actually better on the oppo though I still have the same red push. The interesting thing is that the red's are actually better when watching material on the oppo.

The most astonishing thing was the amount of detail I get from the oppo. My wife was watching Nemo with me on the tests and pointed out all the background that was really a blur on the Marantz. It was quite amazing. I calibrated the Marantz again before I did this to be fair. The responsiveness of the player is enough for me to keep it. I can actually skip chapters without waiting a few seconds between each one. The only odd thing I saw with the oppo was on the AVIA disc itself. It would produce a loud pop between tracks which was quite annoying.

No macroblocking that I could see on anything I tried. I have to play around with 4x3 material to get it to display right but it's possible. The one non-anamorphic widescreen movie I have (old Conan) was difficult to deal with.

Great player. I'm shelving the Marantz now and will use the Oppo until the HD players and movies become more common.

Neuromancer
12-19-05, 03:03 PM
Thanks, Dave. I was aware of this feature but what I want is to hit no button. Just insert the disc and plant my butt in the seat. If for some odd reason I want to do something other than watch the movie, then I can hit "menu."

I've always wanted this feature, and Oppo seems like the one company that might actually listen to their customers.

In Europe, for example, the BBK 971H has a button called Q-Play. What this does it exactly what you want: direct playback.

The MPAA however does not like this at all. It bypasses all security schemes (such as CCS) and FBI and studio warnings. As such, many DVDs are now shipping with the disc protection and FBI and studio warnings embedded into the front of the main feature, rather than the beginning of the disc.

GSB
12-19-05, 03:23 PM
In fact, doesn't the Oppo itself have 10-bit processing? (Pity it doesn't have an HDMI output.) The Faroudja chip is certainly capable of 10-bit processing, all it needs is a 10-bit YCbCr HDMI transmitter. That would be fantastic on the OPPO.

But then comes another issue... does your display support 10-bit processing? Many displays do not. You would see no benefit if your display truncates the signal to 8-bit. We'll just have to upgrade our TV's again!

Bytehoven
12-19-05, 03:24 PM
Q-Play = Quick Play ?

;-)

joe12south
12-19-05, 03:25 PM
Rich,
Many (if not most) DVD players internally process the image with more than 8-bits ... but, and this is a big but, the dvd itself was encoded 8-bit YUV. All DVD's. Period.

I can't say 100%, but I know of no player that has been verified to pass it's 10 (or 12, or whatever) bit processed image.

Being that HDTV, and both new HD DVD standards are 8-bit (though the new DVD specs allow for more, no studio is going to do it) this is mostly a moot point.

GSB
12-19-05, 03:29 PM
I have a Panny PM50u ED plasma, how and what settings should i use for best picture?
Are there alot of adjustments in the menu?See this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6722751&&#post6722751) post.

SteveEast
12-19-05, 04:18 PM
I take your point. Will any company do this? Also, some DVD, especially some Warner DVDs which have language navigation upfront, might make such a feature difficult to implement. Copying (sorry, back up) software seems to cope with removing these features, though, and a default language could be set, I guess.

We'd all like it, though.

Dave

My Toshiba SD-V592 has an "Auto Play" setting which is described as: "You can set up the DVD+VCR so a DVD disc automatically starts playing whenever the DVD is inserted. If Auto Play mode is set to On, this DVD+VCR will search for title that has the longest playback time and then play back the title automatically."

Sounds like what you want, though I've never used it. Hadn't even remembered it existed until reading these posts.

Steve.

joe12south
12-19-05, 04:42 PM
Yeah, that's exactly what I'd want. Don't think I could give up my Oppo now, though. Four days in and I'm hooked!

rickie
12-19-05, 05:18 PM
Thanks, Dave. I was aware of this feature but what I want is to hit no button. Just insert the disc and plant my butt in the seat. If for some odd reason I want to do something other than watch the movie, then I can hit "menu."

I've always wanted this feature, and Oppo seems like the one company that might actually listen to their customers.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I have both and Emerson dvd recorder and a Pioneer 531 DVD-Recorder. I record dvds by doing a high-speed copy of shows recorded to the Pioneer hard disk.

When i play dvds recorded this way on the oppo, the OPPO by-passes the menu (I usually have two 1 hour shows per dvd) and starts playing the first title immediately. This doesnt happen with the Emerson dvd recordings.

Actually, i don't like this "feature", but the pq from the combination of the pionner recorder - oppo player is worth it anyway.

Rick

CCLAY
12-19-05, 05:38 PM
Sorry if this has been asked on this thread before but will the Oppo output audio from the digital and analog connections at the same time? Same question about the video outs? My sat HD PVR for example will output the s-vid and component signal at the same time.

Chris

Neuromancer
12-19-05, 05:49 PM
Sorry if this has been asked on this thread before but will the Oppo output audio from the digital and analog connections at the same time? Same question about the video outs? My sat HD PVR for example will output the s-vid and component signal at the same time.

Chris

Yes, all the ports (audio and video) on the OPDV971H are live at the same time.

CCLAY
12-19-05, 05:52 PM
Thanks for the quick answer!

Chris

Noomrise22
12-19-05, 06:14 PM
Is there any way to get my oppo to recognize and play wmv format videos?

Thanks

Bud-man
12-19-05, 06:20 PM
How's oppo's zoom feature's? the LG 511 i returned had a excellent zoom that didnt crop the screen at all and filled my plasma screen perfect!!
I also liked the card reader feature.....

Seem's like a LG 531 would be a better player with the faroudja chip with the options i liked, esp component conversion, if when my DVR gets better firmware so i can use the Hdmi from that.
I cancelled my oppo order for now.

Neuromancer
12-19-05, 06:27 PM
The Zoom feature is very basic. Goes from 1.2-1.5, 2x, 3x, 4x, 1/2x, 1/3x, 1/4x then back to normal.

DanTana
12-20-05, 09:24 AM
Just received my Oppo yesterday, watched three movies already on it, plan on doing more tonight. What a great player this Oppo is!!! I have a RP TV so I don't really see any macro issue, and use the analog RCA outputs so I don't have any sync issues either. I'd rather hear it via my tube amp and Altec's anyway :)

Thanks to this forum I'd never would known about the Oppo, and certainly wouldn't of taken a chance buying it online. I'm so glad I did. DVD's viewed at 1080i is unbelievable.

dgkp
12-20-05, 09:34 AM
How's oppo's zoom feature's? the LG 511 i returned had a excellent zoom that didnt crop the screen at all and filled my plasma screen perfect!!
I also liked the card reader feature.....

Seem's like a LG 531 would be a better player with the faroudja chip with the options i liked, esp component conversion, if when my DVR gets better firmware so i can use the Hdmi from that.
I cancelled my oppo order for now.

The zoom on the oppo is probably its weakest feature. If your display has a falf decent zoom it will be better than the oppo's.

Dave

Bud-man
12-20-05, 12:17 PM
Thanks guy's for the heads up on the zoom feature.

lexx
12-20-05, 12:46 PM
My new Oppo sits behind a glass door. The player cannot be moved further back on the shelf, so that the tray would not hit the glass if it was accidentally ejected.

As I let my family loose with this player, am I being overly concerned about someone hitting the eject buttom with the glass door closed?

Does this player has some sort of safety mechanism that will prevent a full opening of the tray, or will this player start grinding plastic gears?

Thanks

Neuromancer
12-20-05, 01:01 PM
lexx,

Responded to your question in the Brain Dump.

Neuromancer
12-20-05, 01:03 PM
DanTana,

Glad to hear you are enjoying your new DVD player. I too was a little bit worried about picking up the OPDV971H, but am very glad I did, as I was looking at the time at spending considerably more for a new DVD player.

cmeinck
12-20-05, 02:12 PM
Thanks to everyone for their feedback. Ordered my OPPO today direct from the manufacturer. According their support, I'd have to order the remote/firmware upgrade - Amazon model has neither. Only $5, but I've never been keen on Amazon's "free" shipping. It takes an eternity.

Do they send multiple adapters? Not sure what set I'm going to pair with the Oppo? Sony GWIII, Maxent Plasma or the new guy on the block - Sony Bravia LCD. Right now, I have the Zenith 318 and have been very pleased. Looking forward to seeing the OPPO - especially on the Bravia via HDMI.

Thanks again. I'm sure I'll have questions once it arrives.

joe12south
12-20-05, 03:17 PM
Comes with DVI cable. You'll need DVI > HDMI adapters if that's what's on your display.

I've had mine less than a week, but I'm luvin' it. It's like rediscovering my DVD collection.

justsc
12-20-05, 03:30 PM
Mine came with a DVI-DVI cable and a DVI-HDMI cable. Since I live very close to Oppo I just picked it up at their location. I believe the offer of the DVI-HDMI cable may only be for those ordering direct from Oppo.

Dixie Flatline
12-20-05, 03:32 PM
Ordered mine from Oppo back in October and got both a DVI-HDMI and a DVI-DVI cable.

Neuromancer
12-20-05, 03:34 PM
Thanks to everyone for their feedback. Ordered my OPPO today direct from the manufacturer. According their support, I'd have to order the remote/firmware upgrade - Amazon model has neither. Only $5, but I've never been keen on Amazon's "free" shipping. It takes an eternity.

Do they send multiple adapters? Not sure what set I'm going to pair with the Oppo? Sony GWIII, Maxent Plasma or the new guy on the block - Sony Bravia LCD. Right now, I have the Zenith 318 and have been very pleased. Looking forward to seeing the OPPO - especially on the Bravia via HDMI.

Thanks again. I'm sure I'll have questions once it arrives.

They ship with a 5' DVI-DVI and 6' DVI-HDMI cables.

katleman
12-20-05, 05:52 PM
Ordered mine from Oppo back in October and got both a DVI-HDMI and a DVI-DVI cable.
Ordered my directly from OPPO earlier this week, got both cables.

Placed the order for a 2 day delivery, and the guys at OPPO noticed I was near by Mountain View, CA, and asked if I wanted to swing by and pick up the player rather than spend the $35 shipping and waiting two days. Unfortunately, I missed the email before the unit shipped out, but OPPO also changed the shipping to next day ground, which was $20 less, since I was local.

Very impressed by the responsiveness, I've never had a company respond with a personal email like the one from OPPO.

Looking forward to setting it up ASAP.

Noomrise22
12-20-05, 07:17 PM
I have an onkyo 6.1 surround and was wondering how I should have my oppo set up for audio. Should I put the SPDIF output to pcm or raw? I noticed on my onkyo reciever that it I have the oppo set to pcm I doe not show that it is playing dolby digital but Neo:6cinema. Do you guys know if this is a good or bad thing? I have already set the lpcm out to 96K as this is what my receiver supports I am just not sure which is better for watching movies. I have tried to search on this topic and have found stuff on what LPCM is but I have heard nothing as too which is better. So sorry if this has already been discussed.

Thanks

Neuromancer
12-20-05, 07:30 PM
Noomrise22,

Set S/PDIF to RAW.
LPCM Out to 96Khz

PCM is generally used as a Stereo transport for uncompressed audio, which is why your receiver is using the DTS Neo 6 Cinema DSP.

Noomrise22
12-20-05, 07:38 PM
Thanks again neuromancer, all of this stuff just confuses the hell out of me. I really appreciate the help.

optivity
12-20-05, 07:45 PM
Ordered my directly from OPPO earlier this week, got both cables.

Placed the order for a 2 day delivery, and the guys at OPPO noticed I was near by Mountain View, CA, and asked if I wanted to swing by and pick up the player rather than spend the $35 shipping and waiting two days. Unfortunately, I missed the email before the unit shipped out, but OPPO also changed the shipping to next day ground, which was $20 less, since I was local.

Very impressed by the responsiveness, I've never had a company respond with a personal email like the one from OPPO.

Looking forward to setting it up ASAP.Congratulations, mine is being shipped as we speak! :) I look forward to sharing information about the Oppo OPDV971H and hope that MB is not an issue with my PX50U.

Neuromancer
12-20-05, 07:53 PM
Congratulations, mine is being shipped as we speak! :) I look forward to sharing information about the Oppo OPDV971H and hope that MB is not an issue with my PX50U.

I've been very happy with the PQ on my TH-42PX50U. I notice the occassional macroblocking here and there, but nothing that has stopped me from enjoying my DVD experience. Either that, I learned to turn off the part of my brain which used to scream "Macroblocking!"

buckman1
12-21-05, 01:25 AM
justc, kattleman,

Dang if I knew you could pick it up! I paid $23 to have it shipped 7 miles! Mind you, it took 3 days too! I am wondering why on of ya'll got it shipped next day and I didn't! Oh well... sucks. I would have loved to been told on their site "Hey, we noticed your zip is near us, how about picking it up next day instead of paying for shipping." As a web/software engineer, this is VERY easy to do in terms of logic, so maybe someone from Oppo reads this and adds this to their site. I didn't see any special advertisment saying you could pick it up if you live near by, nor did I know they were so close.

Anyway, only watched a couple movies and I have yet to build my Do-able screen, so using the textured white wall I am guessing I am not seeing as much as I will with a decent screen. At least, I hope it's that way. I will compare my component xbox output at 720p to the oppo 720p as soon as I get my screen up and see what the diff is. I am hoping the oppo is noticeably better, especially going over DVI/HDMI.

Kristopher79
12-21-05, 01:41 AM
Question- I am considering getting a Sony CX995V 400 dvd changer for my Sony 34XBR960 since I have so many dvds. I know it has hdmi output but I haven't seen it in action and haven't heard to many reviews for it.

Would somebody that is used to the quality that Oppo has be unhappy with this 400 dvd hdmi changer? I realize it will never be an Oppo, but how about for a 34" XBR tube tv?

Opinions? Thanks.

edit- I'm not trying to turn this into a sony thread, I'm just curious HOW MUCH image quality I will be losing with my XBR by going from Oppo to the CX995V changer. Perhaps someone coincidentally has done this.

duckbill
12-21-05, 07:06 AM
Hi all!

I am new to this forum, but look what I found:

bbk985s.narod.ru

and especially bbk985s.narod.ru/oppo971.html

lexx
12-21-05, 08:22 AM
My AVR (7.1 channel Pioneer vsx72) makes no mention in the manual at all of LPCM specifications.

As suggested in a post, I set the Oppo to the highest LPCM setting possible. I connect via an optical cable and surround seems to function well at this highest LPCM level. Lord of the Rings delivers 6.1 DTS, and this came through beautifully.

Should I experiment with lower LPCM settings, or just leave the Oppo at the highest setting?

What is LPCM anyway?

Alex solomon
12-21-05, 08:26 AM
Hi all!

I am new to this forum, but look what I found:

bbk985s.narod.ru

and especially bbk985s.narod.ru/oppo971.html

What is this? If it it a URL I can't access it.

duckbill
12-21-05, 08:49 AM
Yes. It is an URL. It is strange that you can not access it. I do not know why because I just opened it in a browser.

duckbill
12-21-05, 09:04 AM
This page contains:

OPPO DV971H

UNOFFICIAL Firmware updates

This page contains unofficial firmware updates for oppo DV971H.



Firmware updates based on OP971-D-1022
OPPO971 v.9
+ Changed ugly file icons
+ Removed UOPs (prohibited user operations)
+ Pan&Scan mode works for all anamorphic DVD
+ Full width file list browser
+ Changed Audio Setup: Equalizer moved to new page, added Super bass, Bass boost, Treble boost settings
+ Extended SPDIF setup
+ Buttons "|<<" и ">>|" jupms to previous, next mp3.
+ Saves volume level after power off.

lexx
12-21-05, 09:29 AM
Maybe it's just bad luck on my part, but I catch more viruses after having visited a web site with ".ru" (russia) in it than any other group of web sites.

I wouldn't go near that site if you paid me. You most definitely are introducing risk and possible damage by uploading and installing firmware from a russian site into you nice Oppo DVD player. Not to mention Oppo warranty issues.

Just my opinion.

duckbill
12-21-05, 09:31 AM
Maybe it's just bad luck on my part, but I catch more viruses after having visited a web site with ".ru" (russia) in it than any other group of web sites.

I wouldn't go near that site if you paid me. You most definitely are introducing risk and possible damage by uploading and installing firmware from a russian site into you nice Oppo DVD player.

Just my opinion.

OK.

Go to keygen.us site and get tons of viruses! By the way - it is your decision where to go on the net.

lexx
12-21-05, 10:03 AM
OK.

Go to keygen.us site and get tons of viruses! By the way - it is your decision where to go on the net.

Correct.

Dixie Flatline
12-21-05, 10:11 AM
My AVR (7.1 channel Pioneer vsx72) makes no mention in the manual at all of LPCM specifications.

As suggested in a post, I set the Oppo to the highest LPCM setting possible. I connect via an optical cable and surround seems to function well at this highest LPCM level. Lord of the Rings delivers 6.1 DTS, and this came through beautifully.

Should I experiment with lower LPCM settings, or just leave the Oppo at the highest setting?

What is LPCM anyway?
If you have the Oppo set to RAW, then as I understand it, the LPCM settings shouldn't matter at all. LPCM is Linear Pulse Code Modulation, which is a format for uncompressed stereo audio. If the SPDIF output is set to RAW, then the digital audio stream from the DVD, whatever format it's in (DD 5.1, DD2.0, DTS 6.1, etc.) is passed through to the receiver unmodified, and the receiver decodes it as appropriate. If you set SPDIF to PCM, then I believe the Oppo will decode and downmix the audio stream to two-channel LPCM and send that to the receiver at the sampling rate you selected (48 or 96 kHz), and you'll never get true 6.1. The receiver may have a processing mode like DTS Neo:6 which expands 2 channels to 6.1, but it won't be nearly the same as sending the original DTS 6.1 audio to the receiver in the first place.

If you're getting DTS 6.1 (and not Neo:6) from LotR, then you've almost certainly got the Oppo set to RAW, which is as it should be. I'm not sure why you would ever want to set it to PCM, unless you have a very old receiver which has a digital input but can only accept stereo LPCM over it.

(Neuromancer, am I more or less on target here? :confused: )

duckbill
12-21-05, 10:24 AM
Correct.

OK. I just shared information. Do as you want. On your own risk.

Maybe for someone this information is useful.

There are tons of "modded" firmwares for poineer's and phillips' players. And this is first, I think, for our player.

Paul Bigelow
12-21-05, 10:37 AM
Dixie,

On target. Here's some info on LPCM:

http://www.digitalpreservation.gov/formats/fdd/fdd000011.shtml

http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/audioformats/lpcm.html

Some DVDs are encoded with LPCM -- "The Beatles Anthlogy" comes to mind.

Paul

Dixie Flatline
12-21-05, 10:39 AM
OK. I just shared information. Do as you want. On your own risk.

Maybe for someone this information is useful.

There are tons of "modded" firmwares for poineer's and phillips' players. And this is first, I think, for our player.
Thanks for the pointer, certainly. I know some pretty impressive things have been done to the Pioneers; I was briefly considering getting a 578A and putting modded firmware on it, before I settled on the Oppo.

However, given the responsiveness and creativity of the Oppo engineering team, I find myself less inclined to install a hacked firmware on the Oppo than I would be with a Pioneer. I know there's some stuff in there, like removing UOPs, that Oppo probably can't do for legal/contractual reasons, but otherwise I figure that the Oppo guys will work most of the neat features into the offical firmware given time, and it removes a lot of the incentive to risk installing hacked firmware.

Neuromancer
12-21-05, 01:10 PM
This page contains:

OPPO DV971H

UNOFFICIAL Firmware updates

This page contains unofficial firmware updates for oppo DV971H.



Firmware updates based on OP971-D-1022
OPPO971 v.9
+ Changed ugly file icons
+ Removed UOPs (prohibited user operations)
+ Pan&Scan mode works for all anamorphic DVD
+ Full width file list browser
+ Changed Audio Setup: Equalizer moved to new page, added Super bass, Bass boost, Treble boost settings
+ Extended SPDIF setup
+ Buttons "|<<" и ">>|" jupms to previous, next mp3.
+ Saves volume level after power off.


If this firmware is real, then it is for the European BBK models. Most likely, you will not beable to use them on your US model, as the IR codes are different. Though, if you feel lucky, have at it.

I wouldn't touch these myself, because, as a OPPO beta tester, none of these items were ever iimplemented.

Also a word of warning: if the firmware fails at any point, you will kill your OPPO. Therefore, be dubious about installing anything that is not recommended by OPPO themselves, or a more respective member of these forums.

Paul Bigelow
12-21-05, 01:29 PM
The MediaTek firmware is being hacked and has been hackable for some time.

I'm *not* giving the hacked firmware a try.

Paul

HiHoStevo
12-21-05, 01:30 PM
Well let's talk about GREAT Customer Service.........

I ordered a 2nd 971H for a little vacation place in Utah.... I was only going to be there a short time, so I opted for the "expedited" shipping so it would show up before I had to leave.

Well the day I had to leave the DVD player showed up and all were happy!

However, when I got back to Vegas there were a couple of messages on my recorder from Kevin at OppoDigital. He had noticed that I had bought the expedited shipping from Calif. to Utah.... of course I had failed to read what "expedited" actually entailed. If you read at the web site expedited shipping uses the USPS's Priority Mail :o . Which as we might guess is totally hammered this time of year. :eek: So Kevin was sure that their standard shipping (via FedEx) would get there faster than the expedited shipping from the USPS... so he redirected the shipping to FedEx and put a credit on my card for the overage! :)

What a Great Company with Super Employee's! :D

It is such a pleasure to do business with these guys... this is what Customer Service used to be, but all to often today is not!

Whoopee.........

justsc
12-21-05, 02:09 PM
After reading all the wonderful posts regarding Oppo's incredible customer service, I got to wondering about the industry awards given to top performers. So I called J.D. Power & Associates. They are to call me back within 24 hours. I'm just going to explore with them how a company gets to the place of being evaluated for certification and/or awards. It may come to nothing, but I just can't watch such good deeds go unpunished. ;)

It may be that the company itself must request such attention. It may be that customers can serve to initiate some interest on the part of J.D. Power. Who knows???

Anyway, if I get answers that show there's something I/we can do to get Oppo's good deeds noticed I'll report back.

Does this sound like a good idea?

Neuromancer
12-21-05, 03:44 PM
justsc -

Sounds good. Keep us informed.

GSB
12-21-05, 04:54 PM
After reading all the wonderful posts regarding Oppo's incredible customer service, I got to wondering about the industry awards given to top performers...

Anyway, if I get answers that show there's something I/we can do to get Oppo's good deeds noticed I'll report back.

Does this sound like a good idea?GREAT idea. Go for it - you'll have tons of support from us, I'm sure!

SteveEast
12-21-05, 06:11 PM
Does this sound like a good idea?

Yup! The only support people I've dealt with in the last few years that can compete with Oppo are the Harmony Remote folks.

Steve.

Ja Phule
12-21-05, 06:42 PM
I'd also add SVS (subwoofers) to the list.

Starrbuck
12-21-05, 06:56 PM
Mine came with a DVI-DVI cable and a DVI-HDMI cable. Since I live very close to Oppo I just picked it up at their location. I believe the offer of the DVI-HDMI cable may only be for those ordering direct from Oppo.
I just ordered and received one from amazon.com and it had both the DVI and the HDMI cables, and the old black remote. I ordered the new remote from Oppo this morning, and I updated to the latest firmware last night shortly after the unit arrived. My only complaint is the DVI cable is so short!

Bud-man
12-21-05, 07:09 PM
Starbucks how short? why didnt you just order from oppodigital?, i dont think it's any lowered priced?
Also has any confirmed this can play mpeg-iso or multiple avi's burned on a dvd.

mrhan
12-21-05, 07:30 PM
I hooked up the player today and it is all that it is advertised to be. My only problem is the DVI/HDMI connector that came with it is too short. Can anyone direct me to a decently priced replacement that is at least 8' long. Thanks.

Neuromancer
12-21-05, 08:02 PM
I hooked up the player today and it is all that it is advertised to be. My only problem is the DVI/HDMI connector that came with it is too short. Can anyone direct me to a decently priced replacement that is at least 8' long. Thanks.

I highly recommend MonoPrice.com. Quality cables at a bargin price.

ugabuga
12-21-05, 11:57 PM
Just received my Oppo! I will be comparing this once it is calibrated to my good old Panasonic RP82 and CP72(If anyone needs one let me know). Some quick questions:

1. I just updated the firmware to the latest firmware 111B
2. Under settings - should video be set to 1 or 2(says DVI Only)? Video I assume set to Wide but what is wide/sqz? (16:9 squeeze?)
3. Is everyone using the default video settings on the Oppo then calibrating on the display? If not, what is the optimal settings?
4. On the audio side of things, I set the SPIDIF to raw and downmix to 5.1.
5. Anyone using the dvd playe to set their speakers to large or small? What about channel delay? better to calibrate with the receiver?
6. Other settings that have been discussed would be og great help.

Thanks in advance guys!

Paul Bigelow
12-22-05, 12:30 AM
Reply here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6768285#post6768285

No need to double post. The regulars read both threads! ;)

Paul

Smarty-pants
12-22-05, 12:56 AM
I highly recommend MonoPrice.com. Quality cables at a bargin price.

DITTO:)

Driver
12-22-05, 01:45 AM
Maybe it's just bad luck on my part, but I catch more viruses after having visited a web site with ".ru" (russia) in it than any other group of web sites.

I wouldn't go near that site if you paid me. You most definitely are introducing risk and possible damage by uploading and installing firmware from a russian site into you nice Oppo DVD player. Not to mention Oppo warranty issues.

Just my opinion.


Or do like me. Leave both the XP Pro and NT boxes in the corner (KVM switching) off and do your cruising on a Mac. No viruses (NONE) to worry about and go anywhere you want with impunity, seriously. :cool: No anitvirus software to deal with, no firewalls neccesary but I do leave my Cisco one on anyway as the PC's, when I do need them, require it. There's a lot to be said for peace of mind.

I would be more worried that some stray unsanctioned firmware upgrade would hose the player. I'd wait for the Oppo official ones to come out.

Neuromancer
12-22-05, 02:29 AM
I tried the "unofficial firmware" that was posted. I spent a couple of minutes with it, but it seems to work just fine. I will do some hard testing over the holiday weekend.

duckbill
12-22-05, 02:39 AM
I tried the "unofficial firmware" that was posted. I spent a couple of minutes with it, but it seems to work just fine. I will do some hard testing over the holiday weekend.

I notice that this fw has no jpeg preview, but wide browser really worth it.

lexx
12-22-05, 09:00 AM
If you have the Oppo set to RAW, then as I understand it, the LPCM settings shouldn't matter at all. ....................

Thanks for this explanation.

lexx
12-22-05, 09:26 AM
Or do like me. Leave both the XP Pro and NT boxes in the corner (KVM switching) off and do your cruising on a Mac. No viruses (NONE) to worry about

Well, using a separate computer just for the internet is an interesting idea, but not too practical for most people. Obviously it's doable, but for me it just means more questions from the rest of the family on "how do I work all the new stuff".

Viruses don't actually worry me. I use the free version of AVG, updated daily on 5 different machines, desktops and laptops. It's stopped anything from every being a problem, and my kids do the download music thing, and catch plenty of viruses.

My concern with the Oppo and non offical firmware, was that it was coming out of Russia, and I don't know how to check for viruses or malicious commands buried in DVD firmware that could take effect when the firmware is loaded or after a certain number of plays, or whatever. There's no virus checker on my DVD player.

Just a case of I don't know what I don't know, so why take a risk with a great DVD player, that does what I want anyway, and certainly seems to have terrific technical support.

duckbill
12-22-05, 09:45 AM
By the way those russians uploaded to the site firmware with NeroDigital support. Only for BBK at the moment. And I crossing my fingers that they do the same fw for oppo, because oppo's support said nothing about when will be official firmware with such feature.


lexx, can you tell me - what can be a reason for creating virus for DVD player?

joe12south
12-22-05, 09:49 AM
Reason? Same reason as for a computer. Maliciousness.

PedroV
12-22-05, 10:24 AM
The feature in the russian firmware that allows the removal of UOPs (prohibited user operations) is great to have.
I wish Oppo would include it in their own firmware.
I'll wait for more feedback from courageous volunteers here and then will try it myself. :)
Having bought the Oppo from overseas, I can't take to many risks.

lexx
12-22-05, 10:48 AM
lexx, can you tell me - what can be a reason for creating virus for DVD player?

joe12south just gave you the same answer I would.

What's the reason anyone creates and distributes a virus?

Maybe you can't create a virus within firmware that will keep the tray closed at all times. I don't know enough about viruses and firmware. Maybe hide something in there that will only allow PAL resolutions, and so prevent the player from working in North America. Who knows.

mrhan
12-22-05, 11:56 AM
I highly recommend MonoPrice.com. Quality cables at a bargin price.

Thanks! I checked the local Fry's, BB and CC stores and I can't believe the price their asking for a DVI/ HDMI cable. What a joke.

Paul Bigelow
12-22-05, 12:11 PM
It's unbelieveable the prices being charged. Fry's does have some lower priced HDMI cables but these were found (hidden?) near the less-travelled outdoor antenna section (in my store anyway) and nowhere near the high-priced cable aisle. It's almost as if they don't want you know it's there (pure speculation).

Paul

nameless33
12-22-05, 01:21 PM
My concern with the Oppo and non offical firmware, was that it was coming out of Russia, and I don't know how to check for viruses or malicious commands buried in DVD firmware that could take effect when the firmware is loaded or after a certain number of plays, or whatever. There's no virus checker on my DVD player.


I doubt there would be anything malevalent in the code. Sounds like a fan to me. If I was Oppo I'd be sending the guy a job offer. The only thing you might consider is that with the removal of UOPs (prohibited user operations) you might be able to lock up your player using operation combinations on some DVDs and have to do a reset.
Well worth it to avoid the marketing nonsense.

Neuromancer
12-22-05, 01:31 PM
It's unbelieveable the prices being charged. Fry's does have some lower priced HDMI cables but these were found (hidden?) near the less-travelled outdoor antenna section (in my store anyway) and nowhere near the high-priced cable aisle. It's almost as if they don't want you know it's there (pure speculation).

Paul

At my Fry's all of the cables found in the AV section are Monster. You have to go to the PC cable section to find the cheaper (like Audio Accoustics) DVI-DVI and DVI-HDMI cables.

And back to the OPDV971H, I will be doing some marathon testing of the "unofficial" firmware this afternoon to see if anything broke. Preliminary analysis says no, but I have never been one to listen to quick answers.

PedroV
12-22-05, 04:20 PM
Neuromancer,

Pls check if the region free hack is still available on the "unofficial" firmware".
Looking forward to read your conclusions.

Thanks

Penman
12-22-05, 04:25 PM
(I've searched this thread to no avail, so sorry if this has been discussed...)

My Oppo cuts off the first second or two of audio at the beginning of a movie or the beginning of the menu music. (My receiver is a Denon 3802, and I'm using the optical audio output on the Oppo.)

Anyone else had this problem?

- Tom

yarrumc
12-22-05, 04:30 PM
Off topic, I just noticed this thread has the highest amount of replies under the DVD Player section.

SteveEast
12-22-05, 04:42 PM
Penman, don't know if this is related, but up until the 1022 firmware release, one (and just one) of my kid's DVDs (Spongebob) had severe lip sync for the first few seconds after selecting play all episodes - then it came back in sync very quickly. Since 1022 I've not seen this at all.

Steve.

TerryJ
12-22-05, 04:45 PM
(I've searched this thread to no avail, so sorry if this has been discussed...)

My Oppo cuts off the first second or two of audio at the beginning of a movie or the beginning of the menu music. (My receiver is a Denon 3802, and I'm using the optical audio output on the Oppo.)

Anyone else had this problem?

- Tom
My Oppo used to have this problem too, but one of the last couple of firmware updates fixed that problem for me. Do you have the latest firmware in your player?

-Terry

digibal235
12-22-05, 04:46 PM
The feature in the russian firmware that allows the removal of UOPs (prohibited user operations) is great to have.

Any specific operations that users were prohbited from performing without the unofficial firmware flash?

Maybe the more courageous among us can use this as sort of a template request for the next OPPO update.

What's with the pan&scan feature?

Penman
12-22-05, 05:15 PM
My Oppo used to have this problem too, but one of the last couple of firmware updates fixed that problem for me. Do you have the latest firmware in your player?

-Terry

Thanks, Terry. I forgot to mention that: I have not done the latest minor firmware update, but I did do the previous major firmware upgrade.

I guess I need the black remote to do the latest firmware update. How do I get one?

Edit: I found out how to get the remote. :)

So, anyone else have this audio problem?

Thanks,

Tom

Neuromancer
12-22-05, 05:28 PM
Neuromancer,

Pls check if the region free hack is still available on the "unofficial" firmware".
Looking forward to read your conclusions.

Thanks

Yes, the ability to change the region settings is in the "unofficial" firmware.

Neuromancer
12-22-05, 05:32 PM
Any specific operations that users were prohbited from performing without the unofficial firmware flash?


Most FBI, Studio, and other warnings and trailers are not skippable in all current firmware versions created by OPPO. The only recourse is to use the Stop/Menu Direct Play feature of the OPDV971H.

GSB
12-22-05, 06:04 PM
OK. I just shared information. Do as you want. On your own risk.

Maybe for someone this information is useful.

There are tons of "modded" firmwares for poineer's and phillips' players. And this is first, I think, for our player.Some of those Russian hackers have a great deal of experience in doing this stuff, and have become incredibly good at it. A friendly competitive spirit exists among them, which challenges their creativity. They have made some amazing improvements to certain players. Way back in this thread, someone alerted us to a post by one of these guys who had figured out how to do an SDI mod to the OPPO - very shortly after the player was released. I don't think any of these hackers are malicious, but the race to be first, could certainly lead to coding errors (which they may fix later). I'm not sure what incompatibilities may arise, or how different the BBK code is, or how hacked code might affect future firmware releases from OPPO Digital. If OPPO's code overwrites their code, that may not be an issue.

Nevertheless, the POTENTIAL for malicious code, or an error that leads to a dead player, is very real, so be careful. Follow threads carefully to establish an author's credentials first.

Personally, I'd be happier to wait for OPPO's official code releases than to run the risk. However, it is very nice to know that such improvements are possible and have been demonstrated. OPPO will get to them sooner or later.

gleemer77
12-22-05, 06:14 PM
This page contains:

OPPO DV971H

UNOFFICIAL Firmware updates

This page contains unofficial firmware updates for oppo DV971H.



Firmware updates based on OP971-D-1022
OPPO971 v.9
+ Changed ugly file icons
+ Removed UOPs (prohibited user operations)
+ Pan&Scan mode works for all anamorphic DVD
+ Full width file list browser
+ Changed Audio Setup: Equalizer moved to new page, added Super bass, Bass boost, Treble boost settings
+ Extended SPDIF setup
+ Buttons "|<<" и ">>|" jupms to previous, next mp3.
+ Saves volume level after power off.

What is in the "Extended SPDIF setup"?

Bytehoven
12-22-05, 07:32 PM
Maybe it's the range of signal path options on the digital outputs, such as frequency.

I don't know what features were available before the D-1022 update.

Neuromancer
12-22-05, 08:35 PM
What is in the "Extended SPDIF setup"?

I didn't notice any physical change. It could be something that is improved sonicly, though.

thebland
12-22-05, 10:05 PM
Wow! 5000 replies!! It looks like this $199 player will be the Bravo replacement for 2006! :D

Paul Bigelow
12-22-05, 11:30 PM
(I've searched this thread to no avail, so sorry if this has been discussed...)

My Oppo cuts off the first second or two of audio at the beginning of a movie or the beginning of the menu music. (My receiver is a Denon 3802, and I'm using the optical audio output on the Oppo.)

Anyone else had this problem?

- Tom

Tom,

It has most definitely been fixed. Update the player with 1022 or 1111B. I noticed this problem happened even when skipping chapters or tracks -- the first syllable or notes would get chopped off.

Paul

duckbill
12-23-05, 03:03 AM
What is in the "Extended SPDIF setup"?
Now I can select not just RAW or PCM type of output, but I can select "Manual" type and set CD to RAW, DD to RAW, MPEG and DTS to PCM. (My receiver do not support dts decoding). Very nice feature.

Starrbuck
12-23-05, 11:17 AM
Starbucks how short?I believe it is only 5 feet long. Barely reaches from my entertainment center tower to the TV.

Why didnt you just order from oppodigital?, i dont think it's any lowered priced?Same price. I have ordered a lot from Amazon lately and I had confidence they'd get it to me before Christmas. Also, I applied for the Amazon credit card and got $30 off, as well as free shipping.

jjufon
12-23-05, 05:59 PM
i just connected this dvd player to my sony kds-r50XBr1 tv, via the hdmi port. the picture is off center, to the left about 1/2 inch on both ports. all other content on the other ports do not display off center. do you think it's the TV or the player? i've searched both forums with no luck.

thanks!!!

JJ

Josh Z
12-23-05, 06:00 PM
Most FBI, Studio, and other warnings and trailers are not skippable in all current firmware versions created by OPPO. The only recourse is to use the Stop/Menu Direct Play feature of the OPDV971H.

I recently picked up the Flash Gordon Special Edition from the UK, and that disc opens with a really obnoxious anti-piracy commercial that is 100% unskippable. Even the Stop button is disabled. There's no choice but to watch it or leave the room until it's over.

Bud-man
12-23-05, 06:09 PM
Josh is that the "would you steal a car"? etc......... commercial?

bitemymac
12-23-05, 06:15 PM
i just connected this dvd player to my sony kds-r50XBr1 tv, via the hdmi port. the picture is off center, to the left about 1/2 inch on both ports. all other content on the other ports do not display off center. do you think it's the TV or the player? i've searched both forums with no luck.

thanks!!!

JJ

If you just picked up a new unit with the latest firmware 1111b, then the shifting is a know issue with some displays. I also have the same shifting with 1111b and only solution at the moment is to downgrade your firmware to 1022b. When you downgrade, do the extra steps to get the remote sync to the old firmware.

jjufon
12-23-05, 07:09 PM
thanks for the info! also my remote doesn't match the one pictured on the oem website. it has a black face, silver back, and is contoured to fit the hand. is this the old one, or have they upgraded it again?

thanks again!!
JJ

GSB
12-23-05, 07:24 PM
I recently picked up the Flash Gordon Special Edition from the UK, and that disc opens with a really obnoxious anti-piracy commercial that is 100% unskippable. Even the Stop button is disabled. There's no choice but to watch it or leave the room until it's over.Josh, did you try the other technique: When the disk starts to load, wait for the "DVD-Video" message, then hit "MENU" on the remote. That should take you directly to the root menu.

mooney
12-23-05, 07:47 PM
Hey guys READ THE RULES.

No price I paid or who you bought it from allowed.

We don't want this worthwhile thread closed.

Dixie Flatline
12-23-05, 07:51 PM
thanks for the info! also my remote doesn't match the one pictured on the oem website. it has a black face, silver back, and is contoured to fit the hand. is this the old one, or have they upgraded it again?

thanks again!!
JJ
Sounds like you've got the newest (3rd gen.) remote, which uses the same IR codes as the second-generation black remote. Does your remote look like this one (http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=971Remote)? If so, you're all set with the latest (which is a vast improvement ergonomically over the second-gen black remote).

guapote
12-23-05, 07:59 PM
Hi, just wanted to let everyone know that I to have joined the Oppo family. I got my first player on Tuesday and liked it so much that I ordered another one and got it today. I live in Seattle so shipping only takes to days. I have about 10 dvd players and these are by far the best!

jjufon
12-23-05, 08:12 PM
huge improvment on my tv with the older firmware! I was missing about 1" of data from the left it seems.

ZZtop
12-24-05, 02:54 AM
I got one of these new in the box overnighted from Oppo.

It wont output any DVI signal into my Pioneer 503cmx. Its got an hdcp comatible card in the slot that my denon 2910 works with just fine, though I thought this model had no hdcp.

Several cable swaps later it still wont work, SVHS works fine, but its like the unit does not see my DVI connection on the plasma, weird :confused:

Suggestions? I am thinking its somehow 3 different cables possibly all being bad???

Fussy viewer
12-24-05, 03:51 AM
I've had the Oppo for a month now, with the 1022 firmware. Am using DVI to DVI cable with a Samsung DLP 1280x720 rear projection TV. Great for DVD movies, but there are some problems with viewing JPEGs burned on a CD:

1. All images all scaled to fit the screen with a blank border around. There is no way to view a file with 1 to 1 pixel mapping, thus they always lose detail.

2. All images are slightly cropped on the right side and bottom.

3. Images are stretched horizontally at all zoom settings other than 100%.

I assume JPEG viewing has not been a priority for firmware development at Oppo, but it would be nice if they could fix the above.

Added later to orig post:

I sent Oppo an -email about these problems. Here is their reply:
========
As far as I know, all JPEG are first down-sampled to video resolution
(720 x 480) by the MTK chip and then upscaled to the output resolution.
For this reason it is impossible to get a 1:1 pixel mapping on HD display.
I will check with the engineers about stretching and cropping. Stretching
may be caused by wrong aspect ratio (4:3 photo on16:9 screen).
========

Looks like JPEG handling is built into the chip and can't be changed. More flexibility would be much preferred.

dgkp
12-24-05, 05:07 AM
I've had the Oppo for a month now, with the 1022 firmware. Am using DVI to DVI cable with a Samsung DLP 1280x720 rear projection TV. Great for DVD movies, but there are some problems with viewing JPEGs burned on a CD:

1. All images all scaled to fit the screen with a blank border around. There is no way to view a file with 1 to 1 pixel mapping, thus they always lose detail.

2. All images are slightly cropped on the right side and bottom.

3. Images are stretched horizontally at all zoom settings other than 100%.

I assume JPEG viewing has not been a priority for firmware development at Oppo, but it would be nice if they could fix the above.

Yes, I noticed this a while ago. JPEGs are very poor on the oppo.

Dave

GSB
12-24-05, 05:45 AM
It wont output any DVI signal into my Pioneer 503cmx. Its got an hdcp comatible card in the slot that my denon 2910 works with just fine, though I thought this model had no hdcp.

Several cable swaps later it still wont work, SVHS works fine, but its like the unit does not see my DVI connection on the plasma, weird :confused: Did you try all the OPPO's output resolutions? If so, you may have a dud, so contact OPPO.

Neuromancer
12-24-05, 06:24 AM
I got one of these new in the box overnighted from Oppo.

It wont output any DVI signal into my Pioneer 503cmx. Its got an hdcp comatible card in the slot that my denon 2910 works with just fine, though I thought this model had no hdcp.

Several cable swaps later it still wont work, SVHS works fine, but its like the unit does not see my DVI connection on the plasma, weird :confused:

Suggestions? I am thinking its somehow 3 different cables possibly all being bad???

Make sure you are not using a DVI resolution that is not supported by your plasma. Sometimes OPPO will test units for QA purposes, and they will go out in resolutions such as 540p/1080i, which some display devices will not beable to display.

Please Stop all disc playback then press the DVI button to begin cycling through the resolutions.

Aliens
12-24-05, 08:20 AM
If your display has a native resolution of 1366 x 768, which would be the best/correct output to use with the Oppo? I’m currently using 1080i due to the image shift on 720P. I’m hoping the future software upgrades will take care of the image shift so I don’t have to go back to 1022.

Spartan2005
12-24-05, 09:40 AM
Looking to buy a new DVD player for the new JVC 1080p set. Anyone try it out already and what would you recommend?

lexx
12-24-05, 11:51 AM
Looking to buy a new DVD player for the new JVC 1080p set. Anyone try it out already and what would you recommend?

An HP 1080p set :)

deez
12-24-05, 04:01 PM
Just to let you guys know, on my display, hitachi 57s500 rptv, i still have to use -3 on the brightness to achieve btb......picture quality is exceptional!!
I am using the 1111b firmware...i have also fiddled with +1 on the saturation but not sure if i like it or not...my set is calibrated with dve.

deez
12-24-05, 04:22 PM
An HP 1080p set :)



As far as reviews go this, the jvc has more going for it....

GSB
12-24-05, 10:46 PM
Looking to buy a new DVD player for the new JVC 1080p set. Anyone try it out already and what would you recommend?You're asking the OPPO thread to recommend a DVD player? Well, let's see... how about the OPPO!?

I don't think you'll be sorry.

ZZtop
12-25-05, 12:19 AM
Make sure you are not using a DVI resolution that is not supported by your plasma. Sometimes OPPO will test units for QA purposes, and they will go out in resolutions such as 540p/1080i, which some display devices will not beable to display.

Please Stop all disc playback then press the DVI button to begin cycling through the resolutions.


I already posted this response back to your other post somewhere on here. Thats exactly what the problem was. Watching Enteprise on the oppo right now :D

OldSenileGuy
12-25-05, 12:13 PM
I just set up my Oppo on my Philips 32" LCD, and I'm having a slight problem. I have it hooked up via DVI-HDMI cable, and I'm running digital coax from the audio out on the Oppo to the digital coax audio in on my TV.

But I'm still not getting any sound. Do you have to press some special button to activate the digital audio coax out on the Oppo? Or perhaps I have to do something special to enable it on my TV.

Plus there's always the possibility I got the wrong cable. I went to Radio Shack yesterday, and bought "Digital Gold Series PCM Digital Audio Cable" Is this the right cable? Thanks!

deez
12-25-05, 12:16 PM
I just set up my Oppo on my Philips 32" LCD, and I'm having a slight problem. I have it hooked up via DVI-HDMI cable, and I'm running digital coax from the audio out on the Oppo to the digital coax audio in on my TV.

But I'm still not getting any sound. Do you have to press some special button to activate the digital audio coax out on the Oppo? Or perhaps I have to do something special to enable it on my TV.

Plus there's always the possibility I got the wrong cable. I went to Radio Shack yesterday, and bought "Digital Gold Series PCM Digital Audio Cable" Is this the right cable? Thanks!


Try going into your tv's menu and enabling the "Digital Out" or something like that.......one other thing does your tv have a hdtv tuner built in??If so, then that digital out is to pass the digital signal to a reciever and you wont get sound that way. You could hook it up in stereo though.

Is (http://www.plasmabay.com/plasma/Product.asp_X_Sku_Y_32PF9630A)
this your tv? If so then it has a hi def tuner...

Jim Christian
12-25-05, 12:17 PM
It sounds like the Oppo is bad unless you haven't switched the receiver to the right input or wired the digital cable to the wrong input.

andersls
12-25-05, 01:10 PM
Any updates on the horizon??

Bud-man
12-25-05, 01:40 PM
Does the oppo have a on screen display of bitrate and time left/chapter...etc?
Mines scheduled for the 28th delivery.

Jim Christian
12-25-05, 01:47 PM
I never recommend routing digital audio through a TV as that adds add'l electronics in the audio chain which might impact the sound.

Always wire it directly to your receiver.

cmeinck
12-25-05, 01:52 PM
I just set up my Oppo on my Philips 32" LCD, and I'm having a slight problem. I have it hooked up via DVI-HDMI cable, and I'm running digital coax from the audio out on the Oppo to the digital coax audio in on my TV.
My in-laws have a Phillips LCD. When you use DVI-HDMI, the Phillips thinks audio is coming in through the HDMI, disallowing audio from other inputs. I'd suggest outputing audio through your stereo.

Neuromancer
12-25-05, 03:22 PM
I just set up my Oppo on my Philips 32" LCD, and I'm having a slight problem. I have it hooked up via DVI-HDMI cable, and I'm running digital coax from the audio out on the Oppo to the digital coax audio in on my TV.

But I'm still not getting any sound. Do you have to press some special button to activate the digital audio coax out on the Oppo? Or perhaps I have to do something special to enable it on my TV.

Plus there's always the possibility I got the wrong cable. I went to Radio Shack yesterday, and bought "Digital Gold Series PCM Digital Audio Cable" Is this the right cable? Thanks!

I have had experience with two Philips, each requiring a different setup for getting analog audio. For one unit, you had to use the SAP button until you heard audio. On the other unit, you have to enable the Digital Audio Input for the HDMI input, and I had to change the S/PDIF to PCM.

I would highly recommend going to Philip's website and downloading the user manual. They will have explicit hookup instructions.

Neuromancer
12-25-05, 03:31 PM
Does the oppo have a on screen display of bitrate and time left/chapter...etc?
Mines scheduled for the 28th delivery.

At this time, no. I know these features have been requested in the past, but I have heard no update from OPPO.

SteelyFan
12-25-05, 04:25 PM
I don't know if this button was present on the older remotes, but there is an "OSD" button on the latest remote that brings up the current time & time remaining (for both the entire DVD and current chapter), chapter, tittle, etc.

I have not seen any bit-rate displayed.

mooney
12-25-05, 06:16 PM
Just installed firmware1111B...HELP

Had no problem installing per instructions...BUT
The image is now vertically compressed ie large black bars top and bottom.

In SETUP I have tried all 4 options with no change..I left it on WIDE as I did with the original software. Everthing was fine before installing the new firmware.

I promised the family a movie tonight...any suggestions?????

wensteph
12-25-05, 07:06 PM
mooney, go back to the old firmware for tonight.

OldSenileGuy
12-25-05, 10:09 PM
On the other unit, you have to enable the Digital Audio Input for the HDMI input, and I had to change the S/PDIF to PCM.



This one did it. Thanks!

Another question. It's hooked up via DVI-HDMI, as I said, but in that mode my TV will only let me choose "Widescreen" and "Automatic" format. In this form, all my 4:3 DVD's (Simpsons, Futurama, Seinfeld, etc) are stretched to widescreen.

Much to my surprise, it actually doesn't look that bad. Does this player have some special way to convert full frame videos to widescreen WITHOUT making it look junky? And, regardless, is there a way to make it display full frame?

Neuromancer
12-25-05, 10:15 PM
This one did it. Thanks!

Another question. It's hooked up via DVI-HDMI, as I said, but in that mode my TV will only let me choose "Widescreen" and "Automatic" format. In this form, all my 4:3 DVD's (Simpsons, Futurama, Seinfeld, etc) are stretched to widescreen.

Much to my surprise, it actually doesn't look that bad. Does this player have some special way to convert full frame videos to widescreen WITHOUT making it look junky? And, regardless, is there a way to make it display full frame?

If you want to keep the aspect ratio correct, change the TV Type to Wide/SQZ through the OPDV971H's Setup system (General Setup - First Tab).

mooney
12-25-05, 11:54 PM
Wensteph

Thanks I almost did that but toggling thru Aspect on projector gave me correct picture on 16x9 setting for a DVD...the night was saved.

duckbill
12-26-05, 02:54 AM
Some news from that russian site (http://bbk985s.narod.ru/oppo971.html):
They added Nero Digital (*.mp4) support.

Just tried this fw and it works fine! Now I donating them 10$!
Good job pals!

I wonder - when Oppo did the same thing? They always answer "soon" to my emails.

Svein2no
12-26-05, 03:36 AM
How do you download from the russian site? Everytime i try i get download failure
-the speed is about 400-500 byte.Can you send the latest firmware by mail or
upload it to a better place?
Best Regards
Svein2no.

duckbill
12-26-05, 05:00 AM
How do you download from the russian site? Everytime i try i get download failure
-the speed is about 400-500 byte.Can you send the latest firmware by mail or
upload it to a better place?
Best Regards
Svein2no.

Dunno. I just click in browser:)

Where I can upload file?

duckbill
12-26-05, 05:04 AM
OK. Here it is:
http://rapidshare.de/files/9839421/oppo971.vC.zip.html

Svein2no
12-26-05, 06:36 AM
Thank You for uploading the file,but how do you burn it on CD?
I have tried Nero,but the player does not understand the CD(firmware).

Zipperman
12-26-05, 07:07 AM
The only problem I have with this player is the audio delay when playing some DIVX files I've downloaded. Even the 50 ms delay from the last update isn't enough. Whenever I have audio delay problems, it's around 80 ms, sometimes even worse. I've tried replaying, pausing, ff, and rr but it doesn't work.

I wish Oppo would give us more option to fix this, like a 60ms, 70ms, 80ms, 90ms, and 1 sec delay.

Note that this only happens to me when playing .AVI files, it's getting more frequently too.

duckbill
12-26-05, 07:29 AM
Thank You for uploading the file,but how do you burn it on CD?
I have tried Nero,but the player does not understand the CD(firmware).
Do you use Nero express or Nero Burning ROM? You shoud not use Nero Express.

On the first page http://bbk985s.narod.ru there is a picture with nero settings.

You should turn off multisession AND joliet. File 935.bin should be in the root folder of the disk.

Svein2no
12-26-05, 08:39 AM
Thank you for helping me out! Now, with the right settings in nero it's all
working. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and all the others
in these exellent forum!
Svein2no.

flmgrip
12-26-05, 01:00 PM
my video distro is based on HDMI. so am i doomed with the oppo since i won't have any sound with the dvi-hdmi ?

what player in that pricerange would be recommended for my situation then ?

thanks

PedroV
12-26-05, 01:30 PM
I've just installed the new firmware posted at the russian site. Thanks Duckbill :)
Everything seems to be working fine. The region free hack still works.
The displayed version number is DV985S-D-1022 so I guess it's based on the 1022 version.
UOP's (prohibited user operations) are disabled so now I can pass all those nasty warnings in the beginning of a DVD just by pressing chapter skip.
Great feature to have IMHO. BTW I'm using the (old) silver remote.
There are a few changes I didn't try yet.
On the video output option I now have YCbCr and RGB. I think it only works with the scart version of the player (BBK).
SPdif has some changes (I think). No changes to the video setup as far as I could see.
For the UOP removal alone this firmware is worth having.
This great player is getting better and better. :)

jackso888
12-26-05, 03:45 PM
Hi, I just installed the firmware D-1111B, now my remote control function keys are all messed up. What can I do to fix this problem? I tried to install my old firmwire D-1022. However, it does not seeemed to be working. After i put the old firware CD and play it. The tray opened up, and i take the CD away as usuall. However, the tray kept opened for more than 5 minutes and did not complete the D-1022 install. Please help!!!!

deez
12-26-05, 03:51 PM
Well, if you dont have the black remote you should'nt have installed the 1111-b=black remote firmware...try to reinstall old firmware again.....

Neuromancer
12-26-05, 04:21 PM
Hi, I just installed the firmware D-1111B, now my remote control function keys are all messed up. What can I do to fix this problem? I tried to install my old firmwire D-1022. However, it does not seeemed to be working. After i put the old firware CD and play it. The tray opened up, and i take the CD away as usuall. However, the tray kept opened for more than 5 minutes and did not complete the D-1022 install. Please help!!!!

Download a fresh copy of the 1022 firmware from the website, then burn a new CD (paying careful attention to mastering it correctly).

HappySonyLCDman
12-26-05, 04:35 PM
Download a fresh copy of the 1022 firmware from the website, then burn a new CD (paying careful attention to mastering it correctly).




or - if you need to use the old software like me- because of picture shift to left, you can reprogram the new remote to use with old SW by ejecting the tray and then hit the stop button on your remote.

Jeff

Doyle
12-26-05, 04:43 PM
Hi, I just installed the firmware D-1111B, now my remote control function keys are all messed up. What can I do to fix this problem?

I was just looking at the OPPO website and noticed that there is a new remote available. It appears that it is a free upgrade to current owners of the old remote.

babauer
12-26-05, 05:06 PM
Whoweee! Just finished all 182 pages. My head is now packed with the distilled Oppo experience and collective wisdom.

Many thanks to all you generous folks who patiently answer the same questions over and over. (Gentlemen, read the Brain Dump before you ask a question.)

Thanks!
brian

cabbageheat
12-26-05, 06:36 PM
Holy crap this was a long thread on this single DVD player. I didn't think I'd get through it all.

To get right to the point, I'm having a hard time seeing the difference between the upscaling this DVD player is performing, compared to my $80 Toshiba Progressive Scan player. I'm projecting with a Panasonic LCD PTL-500U on a 119' in screen (in a dedicated home theater room, completely blacked out). I've been watching movies over and over again (scenes from LOTR, Episode III, Batman Begins and Superbit titles), trying to see any major differences in quality, and either the image quality is better yet suttle (very suttle) or I simply need a new eyewear prescription.

Sorry guys, I'm new, but I can't honestly see a whole lot of difference here. Is anyone else having this "problem" (if it is one). It is through DVI (obviously) and even though I sit there and hit the DVI button, and "upscale" I saw little difference, if any, between the various resolutions. I just could not see a change in quality at all. Up close, further away, standing on my head, I just don't see it? So I'm having a hard time really validating this purchase.

Perhaps I read too much into the hype, about how "astonishing" the image is. I didn't see anything "astonishing', nothing "blew me away", it just looked like everything else I had seen through my Progressive Scan player. Don't get me wrong, it looked good, but not "knock my freaken socks off and involuntarily take a dump in my pants" kind of image. Is this it? Is this DVI? This is HD??

Am I missing something?

er824
12-26-05, 06:37 PM
my video distro is based on HDMI. so am i doomed with the oppo since i won't have any sound with the dvi-hdmi ?

what player in that pricerange would be recommended for my situation then ?

thanks

Not sure what you mean, you can send the video to your display using a DVI->HDMI cable and the audio using the digital audio out on the oppo.

rwestley
12-26-05, 07:43 PM
I tried the Russian firmware and it works fine. The few changes are good especially the UOP removal. It is the 1022 fimware with just a few changes. Don't worry the firmware is in English.

dusterscott
12-26-05, 07:46 PM
Holy crap this was a long thread on this single DVD player. I didn't think I'd get through it all.

To get right to the point, I'm having a hard time seeing the difference between the upscaling this DVD player is performing, compared to my $80 Toshiba Progressive Scan player. I'm projecting with a Panasonic LCD PTL-500U on a 119' in screen (in a dedicated home theater room, completely blacked out). I've been watching movies over and over again (scenes from LOTR, Episode III, Batman Begins and Superbit titles), trying to see any major differences in quality, and either the image quality is better yet suttle (very suttle) or I simply need a new eyewear prescription.

Sorry guys, I'm new, but I can't honestly see a whole lot of difference here. Is anyone else having this "problem" (if it is one). It is through DVI (obviously) and even though I sit there and hit the DVI button, and "upscale" I saw little difference, if any, between the various resolutions. I just could not see a change in quality at all. Up close, further away, standing on my head, I just don't see it? So I'm having a hard time really validating this purchase.

Perhaps I read too much into the hype, about how "astonishing" the image is. I didn't see anything "astonishing', nothing "blew me away", it just looked like everything else I had seen through my Progressive Scan player. Don't get me wrong, it looked good, but not "knock my freaken socks off and involuntarily take a dump in my pants" kind of image. Is this it? Is this DVI? This is HD??

Am I missing something?

What model Toshiba? What calibration method are you using to calibrate your display for each dvd player for your comparison?

flmgrip
12-26-05, 07:56 PM
er824, i feed three tv's from one central point with HDMI. the runs are 30, 50 and 80 feet long and it would be a pain to add any more cable to it and more $$$
i have a 2x4 hdmi switcher, right now with the HD tivo at one input and wanting to feed a dvd into the other one... so i opted for the panny s97. i'd say that's a pretty good choice too...

cabbageheat, i opted for a HDMI player to have one central point and easy distribution to all my tv's and also a no-loss cable run... but i doubt i will see any quality improvements on my main tv... my 6 year old dvd player had already a great pic.

cabbageheat
12-26-05, 08:01 PM
I'm using a Toshiba SD-3900 about a year old now, with Cinema Color Progressive (a.ka. progressive scan) connected to my Panasonic Projector via component cables.

I have not used any kind of calibration DVD's of any kind to test, just my eyes, and my familiarality of the movies I have seen (in some instances, playing the same scene over and over, switcing resolution to see any changes). Getting calibration DVD's is the next thing on my list. However, even without any changes, it seems there should at least be "some" change right? Even at factory default level, a first viewing at 1080 or even 720 should be at least impressive or give you some idea of the quality of the image? Right? Regardless of all the tinkering/changing/adjusting (though I know, this is indeed good and best for the overall system).

I'm just simply not sure what to think. It just appears to be a simple, reliable, and well, just a darn good DVD player, that seems to be onpar with my progressive scan dvd player. But nothing has popped onto the screen that has made me feel justified in paying 200 dollars for an image, that looks the same as my progressive scan.

Is HD just a suttle fix? Smoothes out stuff here and there, and that's it? I'm just not seeing it. . .and I don't think my player is a lemon, it has worked smoothly, without any of the problems I've seen on this HUGE thread.

sorry if I'm the only one, and forgive me of my HT ignorance (and for the record I will purchase an HT calibration disk).

dusterscott
12-26-05, 08:17 PM
I couldn't find a review of your specific player at this website but they do show the 3960 model...

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all&type=&manufacturer=1&maxprice=0&deInt=0&mpeg=0

Oppo scores 98 for comparison purposes. I would highly recommend purchasing the calibration dvd so you know that you are viewing the picture at proper video levels.

CJayB
12-26-05, 09:10 PM
I'm using a Toshiba SD-3900 about a year old now, with Cinema Color Progressive (a.ka. progressive scan) connected to my Panasonic Projector via component cables.

I have not used any kind of calibration DVD's of any kind to test, just my eyes, and my familiarality of the movies I have seen (in some instances, playing the same scene over and over, switcing resolution to see any changes). Getting calibration DVD's is the next thing on my list. However, even without any changes, it seems there should at least be "some" change right? Even at factory default level, a first viewing at 1080 or even 720 should be at least impressive or give you some idea of the quality of the image? Right? Regardless of all the tinkering/changing/adjusting (though I know, this is indeed good and best for the overall system).

I'm just simply not sure what to think. It just appears to be a simple, reliable, and well, just a darn good DVD player, that seems to be onpar with my progressive scan dvd player. But nothing has popped onto the screen that has made me feel justified in paying 200 dollars for an image, that looks the same as my progressive scan.

Is HD just a suttle fix? Smoothes out stuff here and there, and that's it? I'm just not seeing it. . .and I don't think my player is a lemon, it has worked smoothly, without any of the problems I've seen on this HUGE thread.

sorry if I'm the only one, and forgive me of my HT ignorance (and for the record I will purchase an HT calibration disk).

I used to own the Toshiba 3900 (I sold it earlier this year) and if comparing the Toshiba using component to the Oppo using component, they will be very similar quality. But compare the Oppo using DVI to the Toshiba and there really isn't much to compare, the Oppo blows the Toshiba away. I usually don't like it when people say something blows something else away (or says something like such and such a player sucks) but really in this case there is a big enough difference to justify saying the Oppo blows the Toshiba away even if your system is just downrezing 1080i or 720p output to 480p.

If as you say you are using DVI out of the Oppo, then something is either wrong with your display, or you are badly in need of a major calibration, or possibly you have a defective Oppo player or something is just not set up properly.

What settings are you using with the Oppo for Trulife, CSS, noise reduction, etc. and what firmware version?

cabbageheat
12-26-05, 09:51 PM
thanks for the quick responses.

TrueLife is On
CSS is off
I believe the noise reduction is "off" or "low"
sharpness is at 0
and i have the latest firm ware, and remote.

I went ahead and at least did the THX optimizer from the Clone Wars Volume 2 cartoon series. That freaken DVD looks good no matter what.

I will try another shoot out with my Toshiba and Oppo later tonight or tomorrow and see if maybe I just need new glasses. Or maybe need a new DVD player. It all might just be me. Perhaps I expected more, so it could be my own downfall. I hope to the high heavens I don't have a bad DVD player, shipping stuff back and forth is never fun. I did have a small "rattle" in my remote, I contacted Oppo, and they are sending me a brand new one tomorrow, so their customer service is really fantastic, when compared to the big companies. So, on the level of customer interaction/satisfaction they have been great. and unbelievably quick to reply to any incoming emails. That is rare.

I will update probably later or tomorrow. If anyone else has any suggestions that would be great. And if there is an eye doctor in the house, that might be even better! :cool:

CJayB
12-26-05, 10:37 PM
I would try turning TruLife to Off and also make sure the noise reduction is Off. NR has its place, but would not use it until making sure everything else is set up properly. TruLife can cause the uglies at times. Sharpness can be effective with some material in the Low setting.

I really doubt you have a bad DVD player, more than likely if defective in some way, it would look even worse than you're describing.

DodgeViper
12-26-05, 11:25 PM
Hi All,

I have sarted a thread and poll called "Rate Your OPPO DVD Player" With over 7000 post regarding this DVD I and others would like to hear your input.

Please rate your OPPO DVD player. A vote of number 1 would be a poor player and vote of number 10 would be a top notch player. Granted I know this is a loaded question in regards to features, video playback, etc. I am looking for your overall experience with the DVD player.

If you place a vote please take a minute and post why you gave the player the score you gave.


POLL VOTE (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=621005)

dgkp
12-27-05, 05:34 AM
thanks for the quick responses.

TrueLife is On
CSS is off
I believe the noise reduction is "off" or "low"
sharpness is at 0
and i have the latest firm ware, and remote.

I went ahead and at least did the THX optimizer from the Clone Wars Volume 2 cartoon series. That freaken DVD looks good no matter what.

I will try another shoot out with my Toshiba and Oppo later tonight or tomorrow and see if maybe I just need new glasses. Or maybe need a new DVD player. It all might just be me. Perhaps I expected more, so it could be my own downfall. I hope to the high heavens I don't have a bad DVD player, shipping stuff back and forth is never fun. I did have a small "rattle" in my remote, I contacted Oppo, and they are sending me a brand new one tomorrow, so their customer service is really fantastic, when compared to the big companies. So, on the level of customer interaction/satisfaction they have been great. and unbelievably quick to reply to any incoming emails. That is rare.

I will update probably later or tomorrow. If anyone else has any suggestions that would be great. And if there is an eye doctor in the house, that might be even better! :cool:
One other thing to think about: you are using a panny 500 at 119"--that's huge! You are probably at the limit of your projector being able to show a good image, especially if your seating distance is less that 1.7x away. I use an AE700 at 72" diagonal and if I sit closer than 1.7x there is no chance that the pq will be good enough from any SD source. If my pj was at 119" I'd have to sit in the street to get rid of pixillation. There's only so much the oppo can do and if you've brushed up against the limits of the spec of your pj then it won't add much, if anything.

Also, SD upscaled is not HD--your expectations may be too high.

Lastly, don't make a final judgement until you've calibrated properly with Avia or DVE (THX optimizer is not optimum). When I first plugged my oppo in everything went green and blotches appeared all over the place. Once calibrated it was easy to see that the pq was smoother and cleaner than my old prog scan sony.


Dave

optivity
12-27-05, 07:25 AM
OK guys... my OPPO is supposedly on the local FedEx truck, for delivery today. I'm going to give it a try with my Panasonic TH-50PX50U. My understanding is macro blocking may be a problem with the OPDV971H and my display. I'd appreciate any out-of-the-box set-up tips, tricks, tweaks you can provide to get the best results from this DVD player.

lexx
12-27-05, 11:01 AM
Is HD just a suttle fix? Smoothes out stuff here and there, and that's it?

You may have confused the Oppo with a High Definition player. The Oppo is not High Definition. If you have a Satellite or cable TV High Def signal to view, the HD will in all likelyhood be superior to the Oppo. High Def DVD players are not available to the general public yet.

That said, and depending on your display source, the Oppo with a good quality DVD recording can come quite close to HD.

My Oppo plays through a 1080p 65 inch DLP. I noticed a huge difference between my older progressive scan player and the Oppo.

Thor263
12-27-05, 11:10 AM
OK guys... my OPPO is supposedly on the local FedEx truck, for delivery today. I'm going to give it a try with my Panasonic TH-50PX50U. My understanding is macro blocking may be a problem with the OPDV971H and my display. I'd appreciate any out-of-the-box set-up tips, tricks, tweaks you can provide to get the best results from this DVD player.

I have the same plasma as you do. I didn't need to do very much at all - the best thing I did was use a calibration disc. I run the Oppo at 720p as the general consensus in these threads is that this is the best resolution to use. One thing to note is that the Panasonic does not have per input settings, but will remember which mode (Vivid, Normal, Cinema) it is in on each input. So, I used the Cinema mode for the Oppo.

Enjoy!

Neuromancer
12-27-05, 12:27 PM
OK guys... my OPPO is supposedly on the local FedEx truck, for delivery today. I'm going to give it a try with my Panasonic TH-50PX50U. My understanding is macro blocking may be a problem with the OPDV971H and my display. I'd appreciate any out-of-the-box set-up tips, tricks, tweaks you can provide to get the best results from this DVD player.

All you need to do is give your Panasonic a good calibration using AVIA or DVE. You may want to reduce your brightness and contrast settings 2 points lower than optimal, depending on viewing distance and macroblocking/pixelation.

digibal235
12-27-05, 12:29 PM
Personally, I'd be happier to wait for OPPO's official code releases than to run the risk. However, it is very nice to know that such improvements are possible and have been demonstrated. OPPO will get to them sooner or later.

I agree with waiting until OPPO addresses changes in the firmware, but will they change the user prohibited functions? Would they choose not to remove those prohibitions? That's really the only change I'm interested on the unofficial list.

cabbageheat
12-27-05, 01:14 PM
You may have confused the Oppo with a High Definition player. The Oppo is not High Definition. If you have a Satellite or cable TV High Def signal to view, the HD will in all likelyhood be superior to the Oppo. High Def DVD players are not available to the general public yet.

That said, and depending on your display source, the Oppo with a good quality DVD recording can come quite close to HD.

ok then, that explains it about the Oppo player. I assumed I was watching High Definition, but obviously I'm not. I think that is where my "expectations" rested. And I believe I may have stretched my projectors image a bit wide, so I'm definately going to reduce the image a bit.

So thanks for everyone getting back to me and calming my fears and expectations. I guess true HD is something I'm going to have to wait for. I plan on purchasing the AVIA disks this week to start a proper callibration of my system. I guess its been too long. :eek:

thanks amigos!

Josh Z
12-27-05, 01:24 PM
Josh is that the "would you steal a car"? etc......... commercial?

Yes, that's the one.

Josh, did you try the other technique: When the disk starts to load, wait for the "DVD-Video" message, then hit "MENU" on the remote. That should take you directly to the root menu.

Tried that. No luck. The disc goes straight to the commercial no matter when you hit the button.

Neuromancer
12-27-05, 06:50 PM
Josh Z,

Have you tried changing your region to R2 instead of R0? I know some RCE discs will not work correctly if the DVD region does not correspond to the discs region.

optivity
12-27-05, 11:35 PM
I have the same plasma as you do. I didn't need to do very much at all - the best thing I did was use a calibration disc. I run the Oppo at 720p as the general consensus in these threads is that this is the best resolution to use. One thing to note is that the Panasonic does not have per input settings, but will remember which mode (Vivid, Normal, Cinema) it is in on each input. So, I used the Cinema mode for the Oppo.

Enjoy!All you need to do is give your Panasonic a good calibration using AVIA or DVE. You may want to reduce your brightness and contrast settings 2 points lower than optimal, depending on viewing distance and macroblocking/pixelation.Thanks for your replies. I received my OPPO DVD player today and watched "The Brothers Grimm" @ 720p. The picture looked great and the sound was fine too! It looks as if this unit is a keeper.

Venomous21
12-28-05, 12:59 AM
Lastly, don't make a final judgement until you've calibrated properly with Avia or DVE (THX optimizer is not optimum). When I first plugged my oppo in everything went green and blotches appeared all over the place. Once calibrated it was easy to see that the pq was smoother and cleaner than my old prog scan sony.
I still haven't figured out which I should get, DVE or AVIA. It seems most of you guys prefer AVIA. I have NEVER done calibration before...is AVIA a good choice given this fact? Which one is more user friendly and provides better results? Or are both basically identical? Is this only for calibrating your dvd player or can you use the calibration settings on the other inputs on your TV? I'm sorry if this doesn't belong in this particular post, but I wanted to know the opinions of you guys who also have the oppo player (like me).

Thanks.

duckbill
12-28-05, 03:08 AM
I agree with waiting until OPPO addresses changes in the firmware, but will they change the user prohibited functions? Would they choose not to remove those prohibitions? That's really the only change I'm interested on the unofficial list.

I think they NEVER implement this.

Also very handy unofficial feature is NeroDigital Playback. I wait this feature from oppo almost half a year. But nothing! Only this russian firmware gave me all I want.

GSB
12-28-05, 04:29 AM
OK guys... my OPPO is supposedly on the local FedEx truck, for delivery today. I'm going to give it a try with my Panasonic TH-50PX50U. My understanding is macro blocking may be a problem with the OPDV971H and my display. I'd appreciate any out-of-the-box set-up tips, tricks, tweaks you can provide to get the best results from this DVD player.Read this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6722751&&#post6722751).

GSB
12-28-05, 04:39 AM
I still haven't figured out which I should get, DVE or AVIA. It seems most of you guys prefer AVIA. I have NEVER done calibration before...is AVIA a good choice given this fact? Which one is more user friendly and provides better results? Or are both basically identical? Is this only for calibrating your dvd player or can you use the calibration settings on the other inputs on your TV? I'm sorry if this doesn't belong in this particular post, but I wanted to know the opinions of you guys who also have the oppo player (like me). I use both, but I prefer DVE for its cleaner test patterns, for being more up-to-date, and for its considerably lower price tag. On the other hand, DVE is not quite as user friendly as Avia, and lacks a few of the patterns that Avia has (however, make sure you download the DVE manual from their website - the explanations of the patterns help a great deal, and reveal a few gems hiding in the more complex combination-patterns).

dgkp
12-28-05, 05:04 AM
I use both, but I prefer DVE for its cleaner test patterns, for being more up-to-date, and for its considerably lower price tag. On the other hand, DVE is not quite as user friendly as Avia, and lacks a few of the patterns that Avia has (however, make sure you download the DVE manual from their website - the explanations of the patterns help a great deal, and reveal a few gems hiding in the more complex combination-patterns).

GSB, can you post a link for the manual?

Thanks.

Dave

EDIT: It's OK I found it here: http://www.videoessentials.com/docs/DVE_Consumer_PAL.pdf (NTSC users can replace PAL with NTSC in this address)

Dave

optivity
12-28-05, 07:43 AM
Read this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6722751&&#post6722751).Thanks for the link to your OPPO settings post. I have saved your recommendations to a word document that I will use as a reference tonight.

Hyperlite
12-28-05, 09:27 AM
anyone using the 971H with a Toshiba 42HP95? any issues?

lexx
12-28-05, 09:43 AM
Duckbill

Just curious, and not passing judgement, but is Russian your native language?

TechLarry
12-28-05, 10:05 AM
Isn't this a bit ridiculous? Who repairs $199 DVD players out of warranty?

-Larry

the insides look rather user unfriendly. I prefer DVD players that are more pc-like, makes replacing parts easier.

Josh Z
12-28-05, 10:17 AM
Josh Z,

Have you tried changing your region to R2 instead of R0? I know some RCE discs will not work correctly if the DVD region does not correspond to the discs region.

The disc plays fine once it gets past that stupid commercial, but there's just no way to avoid the commercial.

duckbill
12-28-05, 10:46 AM
Duckbill

Just curious, and not passing judgement, but is Russian your native language?

No, not native, but I know it pretty well:) Better than english at least.

Neuromancer
12-28-05, 01:24 PM
The disc plays fine once it gets past that stupid commercial, but there's just no way to avoid the commercial.

Sorry, totally misunderstood what you had said. I was thinking you couldn't get past it at all (like a repeating loop) rather than it was just an annoyance. Damned reading comprehension.

sjhu77
12-28-05, 03:07 PM
Hello,

I have an issue with playback at the beginning of Boogie Nights(2 disc Plat. Ed.). When they're in the coffee shop(Ch. 5 I believe) there is a horizontal pan that focuses on Julianne Moore. The picture jumps near the end of the pan. Wondering if this is like the hiccup on SWIII ROTS or if I have a bad disc? Could someone check that on their Oppo?

Thanks

cabbageheat
12-28-05, 04:34 PM
Just curious about this. I noticed the link to the general setup options for the Oppo that have been recommended for at least a fairly good setup.

However, all the options the Oppo comes with (CCS/TrueLife/Sharpness. . . ect) are all turned off. Why in the world do we have these options anyway? This thread is huge, and I've noticed this quite a bit. No one uses these options it seems, because it creates a bad picture. So, why in the world does any player have it? Are these just fluff? Why would any company offer all this, when the reality is, its almost never used. Is it a gimmick?

Neuromancer
12-28-05, 05:14 PM
Just curious about this. I noticed the link to the general setup options for the Oppo that have been recommended for at least a fairly good setup.

However, all the options the Oppo comes with (CCS/TrueLife/Sharpness. . . ect) are all turned off. Why in the world do we have these options anyway? This thread is huge, and I've noticed this quite a bit. No one uses these options it seems, because it creates a bad picture. So, why in the world does any player have it? Are these just fluff? Why would any company offer all this, when the reality is, its almost never used. Is it a gimmick?

It depends entirely on the source material and the display device which will be accepting the image.

For many displays, turning on TrueLife will increase instances of macroblocking. However, TrueLife was designed as a color and spacial enhancer, and can make an image look more "3D" than when it is off.

CCS and DNR are two features that have become outmodded by better DVD mastering. In the past, many DVDs (mainly video sources) would suffer from Chroma errors. That is, you would get weird rainbow effects on very dense vertical and horizontal patterns (like a stripped T-shirt). DNR has become rather useless because there is less video noise and compression in modern DVDs.

However, there are times when each of these functions may be needed, which is why it is great that they are toggleable (rather than being forced - like in the past).

DodgeViper
12-29-05, 12:38 AM
Again I would like to personally invite all OPPO owners to take part in Rate Your OPPO DVD Player. Feedback has been overwhelming. Currently with 114 members casting their opinion the DVD play has a total score of 8.1, with the majority votes placing the OPPO Player at 8.9. It’s very obvious that this $200.00 player is more than an entry level player. Imagine quality and customer support rates very high. In today world getting customer service is a joke.

Please take a minute and cast your vote. Please take a minute to write why you like or dislike the DVD player including the score you have given this player…

RATE YOUR OPPO (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=621005)

Charles J P
12-29-05, 01:49 PM
I have started to notice a "burn in" type effect with my oppo. I noticed it after doing the most recent firmware update but cant say with any certainty that it wasnt doing this before. I'm not saying it is causing burn in because that does not appear to be the case at all. What I'm seeing is very obvious with the screen saver or white opening title text over a black background. Essentially when whatever this lighter colored object is goes away, you can see a ghost or burn in of it on the screen. I dont know that I'd say they go away as when the screen saver is on, I can see little Oppo oval ghosts all over the screen. But certainly this is not very noticible during a movie with movement etc, but definately I CAN see it during some movies (say a character is on screen and their face is lit and then it fades to black. Has this issue been discussed at all?

Josh Z
12-29-05, 01:50 PM
I have started to notice a "burn in" type effect with my oppo. I noticed it after doing the most recent firmware update but cant say with any certainty that it wasnt doing this before. I'm not saying it is causing burn in because that does not appear to be the case at all. What I'm seeing is very obvious with the screen saver or white opening title text over a black background. Essentially when whatever this lighter colored object is goes away, you can see a ghost or burn in of it on the screen. I dont know that I'd say they go away as when the screen saver is on, I can see little Oppo oval ghosts all over the screen. But certainly this is not very noticible during a movie with movement etc, but definately I CAN see it during some movies (say a character is on screen and their face is lit and then it fades to black. Has this issue been discussed at all?

This sounds like a display issue, not a DVD player issue. What type of display are you using? Have you calibrated your brightness and contrast levels?

Charles J P
12-29-05, 01:53 PM
I'm running an Optoma H31 and I've calibrated via DVE. Like I said, I never really noticed this before the firmware upgrade so its possible that its new but I'm not that confident. One of the reasons I posted is a guy over at HTT is also having a similar problem and he is running a completely different display.

dgkp
12-29-05, 01:55 PM
I have started to notice a "burn in" type effect with my oppo. I noticed it after doing the most recent firmware update but cant say with any certainty that it wasnt doing this before. I'm not saying it is causing burn in because that does not appear to be the case at all. What I'm seeing is very obvious with the screen saver or white opening title text over a black background. Essentially when whatever this lighter colored object is goes away, you can see a ghost or burn in of it on the screen. I dont know that I'd say they go away as when the screen saver is on, I can see little Oppo oval ghosts all over the screen. But certainly this is not very noticible during a movie with movement etc, but definately I CAN see it during some movies (say a character is on screen and their face is lit and then it fades to black. Has this issue been discussed at all?

Yes, this has been discussed before and not as a display issue. I think some one said in was a video buffering issue? Maybe those who know can correct this. I've also--just once--seen it in a movie.

Dave

Stimby
12-29-05, 02:34 PM
Turn everything(CCS< Truelife, Sharpness) off and then see.

dickius
12-29-05, 02:50 PM
I'm thinking of installing the Russian firmware hack, but I'm afraid something can go wrong. Has anyone installed the hack and then re-installed an earlier or current version of the official Oppo firmware? Does this eradicate the hacked firmware? I'd be grateful if anyone has insight.

Also, I want to use my Oppo to do HDCD decoding, so I can listen to HDCD discs through my Onkyo TX-NR901 receiver (which does not do HDCD decoding). But the Oppo is connected to the receiver through an optical cable, and the Oppo won't pass decoded HDCD to the receiver through a digital hookup. Oppo customer service told me that this is an anti-piracy measure required by Microsoft, which owns the HDCD patents. Does anyone know of a hack that will force the Oppo to send the decoded HDCD signal through the optical output? Or whether such a hack is even possible? (I'm not looking to pirate any CDs--I don't even have any recording devices hooked up to my receiver, other than an old stereo VCR--I just want to listen to the CDs I own.) Sorry if this question has been answered here or on the other thread.

Brett Miles
12-29-05, 03:45 PM
Yes, this has been discussed before and not as a display issue. I think some one said in was a video buffering issue? Maybe those who know can correct this. I've also--just once--seen it in a movie.

Dave

I remember reading about this problem sometime recently. I don't know which thread it was, though. That's the downside of having two massive threads discussing the same things. Charles JP - go back a few pages on each to find your answer. I also think it was:

Turn everything(CCS< Truelife, Sharpness) off and then see.

bakpakva
12-29-05, 03:45 PM
I am in the same boat. I would try the Russian version if I knew I could always go back to Oppo firmware. I don't think I would want to try this myself, as I like the Oppo too much to turn it into a boat anchor. Perhaps some of the people that have tried the Russian firmware can revert back to Oppo firmware and verify that it can be done with ease.

I'm thinking of installing the Russian firmware hack, but I'm afraid something can go wrong. Has anyone installed the hack and then re-installed an earlier or current version of the official Oppo firmware? Does this eradicate the hacked firmware? I'd be grateful if anyone has insight.

Also, I want to use my Oppo to do HDCD decoding, so I can listen to HDCD discs through my Onkyo TX-NR901 receiver (which does not do HDCD decoding). But the Oppo is connected to the receiver through an optical cable, and the Oppo won't pass decoded HDCD to the receiver through a digital hookup. Oppo customer service told me that this is an anti-piracy measure required by Microsoft, which owns the HDCD patents. Does anyone know of a hack that will force the Oppo to send the decoded HDCD signal through the optical output? Or whether such a hack is even possible? (I'm not looking to pirate any CDs--I don't even have any recording devices hooked up to my receiver, other than an old stereo VCR--I just want to listen to the CDs I own.) Sorry if this question has been answered here or on the other thread.

Charles J P
12-29-05, 04:14 PM
I'm pretty sure all that stuff is turned off but I'll double check and let you guys know.

Neuromancer
12-29-05, 04:48 PM
I am in the same boat. I would try the Russian version if I knew I could always go back to Oppo firmware. I don't think I would want to try this myself, as I like the Oppo too much to turn it into a boat anchor. Perhaps some of the people that have tried the Russian firmware can revert back to Oppo firmware and verify that it can be done with ease.

You can easily revert back to your previous firmware. There is nothing malicious (that I am aware of) in the hacked firmware.

dickius
12-29-05, 05:52 PM
Thanks Neuromancer. Do you know if Oppo would ever be able to tell that I had the hacked FW installed? (Assuming that something went wrong with my unit, and I was able to reinstall the official firmware before sending it in for service--OK, that's a big assumption).

dickius
12-29-05, 05:53 PM
Thanks Neuromancer. Do you know if Oppo would ever be able to tell that I had the hacked FW installed? (Assuming that something went wrong with my unit, and I was able to reinstall the official firmware before sending it in for service--OK, that's a big assumption).

Penman
12-29-05, 06:25 PM
I just received the newest remote. No instructions came with it.

It doesn't seem to work properly.

Hitting a key gives the wrong function (i.e., "stop" zooms in and out, "play/pause" stops...).

Any help appreciated. :)

- Tom

Penman
12-29-05, 06:44 PM
I just received the newest remote. No instructions came with it.

It doesn't seem to work properly.

Hitting a key gives the wrong function (i.e., "stop" zooms in and out, "play/pause" stops...).

Any help appreciated. :)

- Tom

The fix:

ON THE PLAYER:

1) Press "open."

2) With the tray open, press "STOP" for five seconds.

Now the new remote's keys do what they should. :)

So easy...and thanks to an earlier poster for this fix.

Paul Bigelow
12-29-05, 06:59 PM
Common DV-971H tips and tricks are found in the first post of the Oppo FAQ thread here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=4924650&&#post4924650

Paul

Neuromancer
12-29-05, 07:48 PM
Thanks Neuromancer. Do you know if Oppo would ever be able to tell that I had the hacked FW installed? (Assuming that something went wrong with my unit, and I was able to reinstall the official firmware before sending it in for service--OK, that's a big assumption).

If you could send it back with an official release, they wouldn't really know. If you fubared the unit with the unofficial release, they would. However, I would not be concerned about OPPO finding out you used a firmware other than their own. OPPO is too customer oriented to deny you service.

brinyhenry
12-29-05, 10:45 PM
I have started to notice a "burn in" type effect with my oppo. I noticed it after doing the most recent firmware update but cant say with any certainty that it wasnt doing this before. I'm not saying it is causing burn in because that does not appear to be the case at all. What I'm seeing is very obvious with the screen saver or white opening title text over a black background. Essentially when whatever this lighter colored object is goes away, you can see a ghost or burn in of it on the screen. I dont know that I'd say they go away as when the screen saver is on, I can see little Oppo oval ghosts all over the screen. But certainly this is not very noticible during a movie with movement etc, but definately I CAN see it during some movies (say a character is on screen and their face is lit and then it fades to black. Has this issue been discussed at all?

I'm noticing this effect as well. With TrueLife shut off (also shuts off CCS and DNR) I'm noticing a kind of image retention. It seems to be there when going from a digital graphic like a DVD menu directly to a film source. Superman The Move displays a great example of this. The menu has a large graphic of the Superman shield and if you select play from this an outline of the shield appears during the black opening frames of the movie. This dissipates when the curtains open and the mini film begins to play. If one uses the "direct play" function (avoiding the Superman menu) it's not there. I've also seen retention when stopping a movie and the Oppo screen appears. You can see ghostly outlines that melt away after a few seconds. On the bright side, I've never seen this happen from one scene to another during a movie.

Trance Dog
12-29-05, 11:07 PM
I'm thinking of installing the Russian firmware hack, but I'm afraid something can go wrong. Has anyone installed the hack and then re-installed an earlier or current version of the official Oppo firmware? Does this eradicate the hacked firmware? I'd be grateful if anyone has insight.

Also, I want to use my Oppo to do HDCD decoding, so I can listen to HDCD discs through my Onkyo TX-NR901 receiver (which does not do HDCD decoding). But the Oppo is connected to the receiver through an optical cable, and the Oppo won't pass decoded HDCD to the receiver through a digital hookup. Oppo customer service told me that this is an anti-piracy measure required by Microsoft, which owns the HDCD patents. Does anyone know of a hack that will force the Oppo to send the decoded HDCD signal through the optical output? Or whether such a hack is even possible? (I'm not looking to pirate any CDs--I don't even have any recording devices hooked up to my receiver, other than an old stereo VCR--I just want to listen to the CDs I own.) Sorry if this question has been answered here or on the other thread.
Installing a new version of a firmware over a hacked or the original version overwrites it. For example, if you have a hacked version with a different background and long filename support, after applying the original version (older or newer, it doesn't really matter), you will get a machine in a pre-hacked condition.
I did try to use the Russian firmware. That did not work for me. Took me some time to reverse back to the original.
In a case of Oppo/BBK, it was possible to do because they have the same button table but unfortunately not the same remote table, and I couldn't figure out how to replace it. Do not try to do it with another player's firmware unless you know what exactly you are doing.

Note of warning: Oppo (and probably other Mediatek based players) is sensitive about the label the firmware cd has. As I said, it took me some time to get back to the way it was before. One of the reasons was that it wouldn't update. Then I found out that I needed to change the label to the same name as the russian firmware had. After that I was up and running.

Ja Phule
12-29-05, 11:24 PM
Installing a new version of a firmware over a hacked or the original version overwrites it. For example, if you have a hacked version with a different background and long filename support, after applying the original version (older or newer, it doesn't really matter), you will get a machine in a pre-hacked condition.
I did try to use the Russian firmware. That did not work for me. Took me some time to reverse back to the original.
In a case of Oppo/BBK, it was possible to do because they have the same button table but unfortunately not the same remote table, and I couldn't figure out how to replace it. Do not try to do it with another player's firmware unless you know what exactly you are doing.

Note of warning: Oppo (and probably other Mediatek based players) is sensitive about the label the firmware cd has. As I said, it took me some time to get back to the way it was before. One of the reasons was that it wouldn't update. Then I found out that I needed to change the label to the same name as the russian firmware had. After that I was up and running.

Are you saying you had issues by trying the recently talked about modified Oppo firmware or a BBK firmware mod on the Oppo?

Trance Dog
12-30-05, 03:56 AM
The BBK firmware, Russian made.
Is there a modified Oppo f/w or we are talking about the same thing?
Would you provide me with a link to it?


Update:

Just found the link. Looks like I tried the different one before, however I am still reluctant to use this mod because, according to the web-site, it is made for the BBK's native remote. From countless hours of my previous research, those 2 (the Oppo's and the BBK's) are not the same (see my previous comment about the remote table, a piece of code that assigns different commands to the buttons).

Even though I can always reverse back, I don't want to spend more time than necessary at this moment.

So, 2 questions:

1) The obvous one: has anyone had any difficulties using the Oppo remote with the BBK mod? If yes, were you able to find a work around?

2) Does it support the long file names and correct directory structure for mp3 files?
If it does not, then I have no reason to experiment at all because that is the only feature I really need now.

GSB
12-30-05, 05:52 AM
I have started to notice a "burn in" type effect with my oppo. I noticed it after doing the most recent firmware update but cant say with any certainty that it wasnt doing this before. I'm not saying it is causing burn in because that does not appear to be the case at all. What I'm seeing is very obvious with the screen saver or white opening title text over a black background. Essentially when whatever this lighter colored object is goes away, you can see a ghost or burn in of it on the screen...
Has this issue been discussed at all? Yes, this issue has been discussed before. See this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6584158&&#post6584158). "Ghosting" would be a more accurate description than "burn-in". Any high-contast image will leave a ghost when the OPPO stops on a still image (like the OPPO logo, for example). It was present with previous firmware too, but certain combinations of the new Truelife and DNR options can make it considerably worse.

I've just posted a bit more on ghostbusting here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6811617&&#post6811617) too.

rwestley
12-30-05, 07:10 AM
Thre are several different hacked firmwares posted. There is one specifically for the Oppo. I have tried it and it works with the new remote with no problem. It is a modified version of the 1022 firmware. With the tray open you must press stop for about 5 seconds to get the new remote to work. Do not use the BBK firmware it is different.

PedroV
12-30-05, 07:28 AM
There are several different hacked firmwares posted. There is one specifically for the Oppo. I have tried it and it works with the new remote with no problem. Same here. No problems.
Works with the old (silver) and the latest new remote (pressing stop for about 5 sec). I've tried both.

duckbill
12-30-05, 08:07 AM
There are one more fw on that site - oppo971.vC it is not based on 1022. As far as I understand it based on some other bbk player fw with nerodigital support but fully optimized for oppo remote. Works for me pretty well.

Alex solomon
12-30-05, 08:46 AM
Same here. No problems.
Works with the old (silver) and the latest new remote (pressing stop for about 5 sec). I've tried both.

Got link for this firmware??