After almost a week of using the Oppo I can honestly say that this player rocks! The superbit version of Spiderman never looked so good, it's almost 3D-ish. I did, however, see some ghosting (or trailing) in the scene immediately after he got bit by the spider. But turning Truelife on totally eliminated this problem (I now have the settings at 0 and Off on all except Brightness at -03 and Truelife is on). I also saw the most-talked-about audio sync problem, but probably only because I was paying too much attention to the lip movements instead of just watching the movie. When not concentrating on the lip movements I could not perceive any audio/video sync problems at all. However, I did the quick stop/play on the remote and went back to focusing on the lip movements and I did not see any sync problem through the rest of the movie.

Do any 50" GWIII owners out there know what the native resolution is for this set. I've looked everywhere on the manual and could not find it. Right now, I have the Oppo set at 720P. But maybe the 1080i would work better in that the TV does not have to do any re-scaling, thus helping minimize the audio sync issue.

Other than the almost negligible sync problem I am very pleased with this player and would highly recommend it

Your native resolution is 1386 x 788. 480p or 720p should work just fine for you for picture quality although with the latest firmware you'll get an image shift at 720p.

Hi

Oppo 971H is reviewed in German audio-magazine STEREOPLAY (latest issue 2/06). :)
They state, that the player delivers a "superb picture" on its DVI-output and that multichannel DVD-audio is beautifully transparent. What they did not like is the analog stereo output's sound over the 5.1 outputs and - of course - composite out. But they mention, that the player was not developed for analog picture quality ("developed for perfect DVI-picture")....
:D

Thanks for the update. And it also seems the Ultimate AV updated their Gold list to include the OPDV971H as well.

Oppo 971H is reviewed in German audio-magazine STEREOPLAY (latest issue 2/06). :)
They state, that the player delivers a "superb picture" on its DVI-output and that multichannel DVD-audio is beautifully transparent. What they did not like is the analog stereo output's sound over the 5.1 outputs and - of course - composite out. But they mention, that the player was not developed for analog picture quality ("developed for perfect DVI-picture").... :DThanks for sharing!

The superbit version of Spiderman never looked so good, it's almost 3D-ish. I did, however, see some ghosting (or trailing) in the scene immediately after he got bit by the spider. But turning Truelife on totally eliminated this problem Interesting. I'll check it out too.

I have tried all of them but it seems as though the TV will do verticle compression no matter what when it sees any signal above 480P. The fix seems to be having the ability to disable the 16:9 enhanced mode but the TV only gives Auto and On as options. Also when the TV sees a HD signal it will gray out the Enhanced 16:9 menu option.

Could the player not be passing the correct flag or is this incorrect (has it ever been tested?)? The TV seems to think that everything coming out of the Oppo is anamorphic so it does the verticle compression unless the Oppo is set to 480P. ( Display options in the Oppo have no effect) Annoying.

I believe DVI players do not pass an anamorphic flag. I don't think the DVI spec even allows for such flags. The HDMI spec evidently does allow flags, but no manufacturers are known to be using it yet.

At 480p, the player simply passes the 720x480 DVD image to the TV. The TV cannot detect whether the RGB image is anamorphic or not, so the TV should offer the option to manually format the image correctly. The OPPO's "Wide/SQZ" mode is useful if you do not wish to manually adjust the TV, or if the TV is unable to format it correctly.

At 720p, the player is supposed to unstretch anamorphic video to 1280x720 pixels. The TV should not do any stretching or compressing... just display the picture as is (scaling it to fit if necessary). A 4:3 TV, like yours, should offer the option to either crop off the sides, or letterbox the picture with black bars.

Most TV's behave as they should, but the Sonys seem to have other plans.

Your native resolution is 1386 x 788. 480p or 720p should work just fine for you for picture quality although with the latest firmware you'll get an image shift at 720p.

Thanks Scott. I did a re-flash back to the 1022 FW, so image shifting is not an issue.

I have just bought a new DV971H, i plugged it into the LCD tv using DVI cable. When i put in a dvd in the player and start it i get a error message on the dv saying. "Please set the resolutions on your computer to 1280x728"
Seems lika the TV doesn't like the signal from the DVD player. Anybody know how to fix this?? I have tried to change the resolution with the DVI button but it doesn't work.

I have just bought a new DV971H, i plugged it into the LCD tv using DVI cable. When i put in a dvd in the player and start it i get a error message on the dv saying. "Please set the resolutions on your computer to 1280x728"
Seems lika the TV doesn't like the signal from the DVD player. Anybody know how to fix this?? I have tried to change the resolution with the DVI button but it doesn't work.

Did you make sure that the disc wasn't playing when you changed the DVI setting? The DVI button won't work unless you'ver pressed stop twice or ejected the DVD.

Dave

No, i put in the DVD and pressed play and then i changed the DVI setting. I will try to change it when the tray is open and se if it works.

Can anybody explain--or better give a screen cap--of what 'tearing' looks like? I've heard in mentioned a lot, especially with respect to the PAL synch problem, but I don't know what to look for. Thanks.

Dave

I have just bought a new DV971H, i plugged it into the LCD tv using DVI cable. When i put in a dvd in the player and start it i get a error message on the dv saying. "Please set the resolutions on your computer to 1280x728"
Seems lika the TV doesn't like the signal from the DVD player. Anybody know how to fix this?? I have tried to change the resolution with the DVI button but it doesn't work.


With the oppo in stop mode[no dvd playing] change dvi settings until your lcd tv shows a picture.....

Still doens't work. Even when i start the DVD with no dvd disc in the player i can't even see the logo, i have tried to press the DVI button but still doesn't work.

When i switch to scart it workd fine, then i see the logo when i start the dvd player.

Still get the message "Can't display this video, please change input to 1280x728"

I get that message as soon as i start the DVD player.

Still doens't work. Even when i start the DVD with no dvd disc in the player i can't even see the logo, i have tried to press the DVI button but still doesn't work.

When i switch to scart it workd fine, then i see the logo when i start the dvd player.

Still get the message "Can't display this video, please change input to 1280x728"

I get that message as soon as i start the DVD player.

I'm guessing you mean 1280x720 (I don't believe 1280x728 to be standard resolution)? Have both dvi and scart connected to your display. View the scart connection and press the DVI button with the player stopped. Pressing the DVI button should toggle through the various outputs for dvi such as 480p/576p, 720p, 1080i etc and it should be shown on the screen. When it shows 720p, try out the dvi connection and see if you get a picture.

What lcd are you using? Is it a pc monitor or actual tv monitor? Have you been able to connect any other non pc dvi devices on your monitor (ie cable box, hd tuner, etc)?

Yes, meant 1280x720.

I have tried to watch the scart connection and then choose 720p, i then switch to DVI and still doens't work.

I'm using this LCD TV:

Can't post url yet, but the model is Philips 300WN5QS. Search on Philip web and you will find a spec-sheat.

Right now i use the LCD as a regular TV connected thrue scart and it works great.

Yes, meant 1280x720.

I have tried to watch the scart connection and then choose 720p, i then switch to DVI and still doens't work.

I'm using this LCD TV:

Can't post url yet, but the model is Philips 300WN5QS. Search on Philip web and you will find a spec-sheat.

Right now i use the LCD as a regular TV connected thrue scart and it works great.

Looking at the specs, I think the message probably stated that you need to set your resolution to 1280x768, which is the native resolution of your lcd.

I'm guessing it's "possible" that your display will only accept pc resolutions such as 1280x768 via it's dvi input while hdtv resolutions like 720p and 1080i are meant for the component inputs.

I'd try contacting philips about this issue as it seems like a display issue.

That sounds right, Ja Phule.

Is it just me or does the Star Wars Phantom Menace look sucky on the Oppo (or any other brand of DVD player for that matter)? :confused:

Bigthys, I attended the digital premier of Phantom Menace and was underwhelmed in general. Certain scenes were quite blurry, mainly the heavy CGI scenes, but some others as well. It does has a few great looking moments but they're offset by the sub-standard general look of it all (IMHO). It's probably due to Phantom Menace being one of the early all digital productions.

Has OPPO told anyone of any updates coming soon?

Is it just me or does the Star Wars Phantom Menace look sucky on the Oppo (or any other brand of DVD player for that matter)? :confused:

The Phantom Menace DVD is poorly mastered with heavy edge enhancement, which adds ugly electronic ringing to the edges of objects and destroys fine object detail. It's going to look bad on any DVD player. Supposedly, Lucas is still tinkering with the movie and has done some work to replace the puppet Yoda with a CGI version to match the other prequels, so there's a strong chance that the movie will eventually be reissued on DVD with a better transfer (and hopefully less Jar Jar!).

Bigthys, I attended the digital premier of Phantom Menace and was underwhelmed in general. Certain scenes were quite blurry, mainly the heavy CGI scenes, but some others as well. It does has a few great looking moments but they're offset by the sub-standard general look of it all (IMHO). It's probably due to Phantom Menace being one of the early all digital productions.

Martin, unlike the other two prequels Phantom Menace was not an all-digital production. It was shot primarily on 35mm film (overlayed with extensive CGI, of course) except for a couple of shots here and there. Attack of the Clones was the first Star Wars movie shot entirely on HD video.

Thanks for the clarification Josh. The presentation I saw at the Ziegfeld here in NYC was part of a freebee for attendees of the Sterophile Home Enterrtainment show. I was getting a bit confused about the details of the productions but one thing for sure is that the event was set up to showcase a new high end digital projection system (DLP) which left a lot to be desired, but is quite promising.

Thank you, Martin & Josh. That explains no matter where I played Phantom Menace it looked disappointing. I will look at the other two prequels later, and hopefully they'll be much better!

Thank you, Martin & Josh. That explains no matter where I played Phantom Menace it looked disappointing. I will look at the other two prequels later, and hopefully they'll be much better!

After doing the latest Oppo firmware update, I was quickly previewing the DVD 'Stealth'. During one scene, in the commander's office (Sam Shepard) I thought the video was below paar. Brightness was down some, color was ok, but edges seemed enhanced. This was against every review I've read that gave it high marks for video.
The entire scene appeared lackluster.
After later viewing the entire disk, I realized the quality of some videos is not consistent throught the movie. Maybe that is nothing very remarkable in itself, but certainly did increase my awareness. And of course, quality issues could be related to filming and have nothing at all to do with reproduction. Overall, it's well produced video (with a tongue-in-cheek story :)
We are in the process of unpacking, when I get to the videos, I will check out my copy of Phantom....I seem to be more 'picky' with the Oppo.

Oppo adjusted the brightness settings in the last firmware release. Details are elsewhere in this thread.

Thank you, Martin & Josh. That explains no matter where I played Phantom Menace it looked disappointing. I will look at the other two prequels later, and hopefully they'll be much better!

Both of the other prequels have much better video quality on DVD.

Looking at the specs, I think the message probably stated that you need to set your resolution to 1280x768, which is the native resolution of your lcd.

I'm guessing it's "possible" that your display will only accept pc resolutions such as 1280x768 via it's dvi input while hdtv resolutions like 720p and 1080i are meant for the component inputs.

I'd try contacting philips about this issue as it seems like a display issue.


Hi

I tried to change the DVD option from PAL to NTCS and then it works through the DVI connection. But it only works on 720p when i try the 1080p i only get the left the lower left screen in closeup. Looks really strange

I tried to change the DVD option from PAL to NTCS and then it works through the DVI connection. But it only works on 720p Well then, 720p it is! That's probably the best resolution to feed your 1280x768 panel anyway.

Hi

I tried to change the DVD option from PAL to NTCS and then it works through the DVI connection. But it only works on 720p when i try the 1080p i only get the left the lower left screen in closeup. Looks really strange

Have you checked out the auto setting to? Might be more flexible?

Dave

Does enybody knows if there is a setting for adjusting the luminocity of the subtitles? Or if there is any upgrade for this? Thank you.

Does enybody knows if there is a setting for adjusting the luminocity of the subtitles? Or if there is any upgrade for this? Thank you.

No on both accounts.

After almost a week of using the Oppo I can honestly say that this player rocks! The superbit version of Spiderman never looked so good, it's almost 3D-ish. I did, however, see some ghosting (or trailing) in the scene immediately after he got bit by the spider. But turning Truelife on totally eliminated this problem (I now have the settings at 0 and Off on all except Brightness at -03 and Truelife is on).
Why does every default guide on here say to turn off truelife? I have it off, but don't understand why people recommend it off. What does it exactly do? Why is it recommended as off?

I occasionally get motion blur on my Oppo (very minor), and at first I thought it might be DVI specific to my TV, but upon further review, I think it's the oppo. My tv with dvi from a SA 8300 Hd dvr box doesn't ghost. I'll try truelife tonight and see what happens.

It would seem there are specific situations where TrueLife is helpful, and others where it may actually be detrimental. Not sure the actual conditions are known that directly relate to either one.
I believe saturation has a direct effect on macroblocking as well as other artifacts.

The information on this link may be helpful:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6811617&&#post6811617

After almost a week of using the Oppo I can honestly say that this player rocks! The superbit version of Spiderman never looked so good, it's almost 3D-ish. I did, however, see some ghosting (or trailing) in the scene immediately after he got bit by the spider. But turning Truelife on totally eliminated this problem (I now have the settings at 0 and Off on all except Brightness at -03 and Truelife is on).Not the Oppo too! There must be something in the FLI-2310 chip that causes this...

I have a Zenith DVB318 that will be two years old in April. I reported this exact problem in this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=3863019&highlight=spiderman#post3863019) back in May of 2004 and I assumed it was something with the MPEG decoder in the DVB318. I saw it again towards the end of the movie - when Peter is walking towards the camera in the cemetery (after blowing off MJ), the same trailing artifacts can be seen around his head. I also saw this on my SM SuperBit version. The only other time I encountered this was on one of the Band of Brothers episodes.

It would sure be interesting to find out what is the root cause of this since it appears to happen to two players now...

Not the Oppo too! There must be something in the FLI-2310 chip that causes this...

It would sure be interesting to find out what is the root cause of this since it appears to happen to two players now... Well bigthys stated that "turning Truelife on totally eliminated this problem" so maybe that's the root cause you're looking for. I agree that "Truelife" has some advantages, such as cleaning up ghosting, but it also tends to worsen macroblocking and other little problems, so that's why we recommend that you experiment with the "Truelife" and "DNR" settings, and pick the ones you like best.

Your Denon 1600 also has a Faroudja chip (FLI2200). Perhaps "Truelife" is enabled by default, and that may explain why you did not see the trails on the Denon.

Your Denon 1600 also has a Faroudja chip (FLI2200). Perhaps "Truelife" is enabled by default, and that may explain why you did not see the trails on the Denon.

The FLI2200 chip came before "TrueLife", I believe.

I tend to like Truelife. I don't have a macroblocking problem with my Sony. I keep the CCS on, but I don't really know that I can see good or bad in that choice.

I leave the noise reduction off. I have a couple of poor transfers, but I replace them as soon as a better transfer is available (Dumb and Dumber is a good example).

One thing is for sure. All these threads on all these new DVD players have just scared me off from buying one. :)

My current upconverting player does not have a pillar box mode for handling 4:3 material so I was going to replace it.


But now I realize, if you are happy with your DVD player as I am with mine on all anamorphic widescreen and even non-anamorphic widescreen titles using the vertical zoom to fix the geometry then, one better leave well enough alone.


I guess I am going to get a dedicated cheapie player for all true 4:3 stuff in my library.


Just food for thought is all. :)


The crazy poster on one of these threads, that hated the Oppo that claims he ruined his plasma, had an interesting point though.....

If you can score a cheap DVD player with a "good" mpeg decoder and your display has even average by modern standards de-interlacing and scaling you could probably be happy with a 480i player on component video maybe even happiest.

He even knew he had a very odd ball Plasma panel, so DVI and HDMI connections certainly had a chance of being quirky being the panel was so odd ball. So no real defense. But even I have found helping people out and installing different theaters, that often times, the simple 480i via the component video ends up being best period when all is said and done with many modern displays.

Josh Z

Is it true there is a JarJar removal setting for the OPPO?

Josh Z

Is it true there is a JarJar removal setting for the OPPO?
Absolutely. With no disc in the player, press Setup-9-2-1-0-6 on the remote. This will prevent you from seeing Jar-Jar Binks' appearance in any of the Star Wars movies. (Or pretty much anything else.) :p

Note: May not work for Region 6 releases of the Star Wars movies. :D

Absolutely. With no disc in the player, press Setup-9-2-1-0-6 on the remote. This will prevent you from seeing Jar-Jar Binks' appearance in any of the Star Wars movies. (Or pretty much anything else.) :p

Note: May not work for Region 6 releases of the Star Wars movies. :D

If what you say is true, you just sold me on this player! Thanks.

Absolutely. With no disc in the player, press Setup-9-2-1-0-6 on the remote. This will prevent you from seeing Jar-Jar Binks' appearance in any of the Star Wars movies. (Or pretty much anything else.) :p

Note: May not work for Region 6 releases of the Star Wars movies. :D
I must have missed something here.

Could someone please enlighten me here, or have I just naively taken the bait?

Thanks ;)

I must have missed something here.

Could someone please enlighten me here, or have I just naively taken the bait?

Thanks ;)
Oh, all right. ;) That button sequence will set the player to Region 6 (China), so it won't play discs from any other region. (Actually, given what the bootleg DVD market is like in China, I'm not sure how many legitimate, region-coded Region 6 DVDs even exist.) You won't see Jar-Jar Binks, because the movie won't play at all. And probably neither will any other movie in your collection.

I said it would work, I didn't say it was useful. :cool:

I must have missed something here.

Could someone please enlighten me here, or have I just naively taken the bait? Heh! You took the bait!

Heh! You took the bait!
Yep!

I walked right into that one. ;)

That's OK - you gotta be able to laugh at yourself.

That's OK - you gotta be able to laugh at yourself.

While letting others laugh at you.

Though it would be cool to have a anti-Jar Jar firmware.

For those jumping to the bottom of the thread, a quick recap.

I was having sparkles in one area of the screen. Oppo connected to a Marantz 8500 using the supplied cable, then from the Marantz to a Benq projector over a 40 DVI cable. My Bravo D1 player had no such issues.

I have now tried everything with no solution, including:

High end ($80) short 3 foot DVI to the Marantz
Different ports on the Marantz

Going direct to the projector on the 40' DVI cable works fine, but not through the Marantz.

I had a buddy come over with his spanking new Panasonic S97. That player also has NO issues going through the Marantz over a HDMI>DVI cable, then 40' out to the projector.

The conclusion appears to be that the Oppo is not sending a strong enough DVI signal to traverse my configuration, and I have sent the Oppo back as I have two DVD players which work fine, and the Oppo has an issue.

I was messing around with my Oppo, which is connected with a DVI to HDMI cable to my Panasonic TH-42PX50U plasma. I noticed that DVDs seem to be shifted over about 1/2" to the left -- there is a 1/2" wide black bar on the right side of the screen -- but only if I set the Oppo to output 1080i or 540p. 480p and 720p are unaffected, and the same discs playing over component from another player are also not affected.

I saw that there was mention of image shift with the Oppo in the FAQ in this thread. I wasn't really clear from the description if the issue being mentioned there is the same as what I am seeing. The suggested solution is to downgrade to the 1022 firmware. I did that but it did not fix the problem.

Anyone experience this before?

Phaid,

I have not tried using my TH-42PX50 at 1080i, because the native resolution is 720p, so I can't affirm or deny the shifting you are seeing. Maybe I will try it out tonight when I get home and see what developes.

Neuromancer,

I would really appreciate that! If you have any Superbit discs and don't mind popping one in for a look at 1080i, those seem to show the problem off more than any other DVD's.

Neuromancer,

I would really appreciate that! If you have any Superbit discs and don't mind popping one in for a look at 1080i, those seem to show the problem off more than any other DVD's.

I tried it with my Fifth Element Superbit and there is a slight shift to the left at 1080i on 1022/1111B. Did not see the same shift when using the Incredibles, though.

I chose this DVD as my test of 1081i output from the Oppo to my HP 5880n 58" DLP, which accepts 1080i/1080p video over HDMI.

The scene I chose was when the girl ("perfect, absolutely perfect") jumps off the building and lands into the cab.

It was unwatchable! Huge blocks all over the screen, and frames skipped. Sound was ok.

I tried it again at 720p and it was excellent, so I've kept the Oppo set there.

This is a popular DVD for showing off, has anyone else noticed this? I've only had it for a few weeks, so I haven't tried 1080i on anything else yet.

Just wondering.

Does anyone else look forward to new firmware releases, even if they fix minor things and/or don't fix any problems you're having? I just like tinkering with my Oppo, I guess...

btw, isn't there supposed to be a new firmware soon?

I tried it with my Fifth Element Superbit and there is a slight shift to the left at 1080i on 1022/1111B. Did not see the same shift when using the Incredibles, though.

Thanks very much for reproducing this, I really appreciate it.

Does anyone else look forward to new firmware releases, even if they fix minor things and/or don't fix any problems you're having? I just like tinkering with my Oppo, I guess...

btw, isn't there supposed to be a new firmware soon?

It's passed due. When I spoke with them about three weeks ago, they told me to expect a new firmware within two weeks, but obviously it hasn't release yet. Maybe they found more bugs to fix. I'm just waiting for 1080p enabled firmware to play with.

For you guys working closely with Oppo, just an FYI, the angle icon still appears to popping up on the occasional disc. It came up at the beginning of the Anniversary release of Toy Story 2.

So far so good. Received refurb 971H yesterday direct from Oppo. Connected to 7200 via Infocus 10m cable w integrated M1 connector. Used 720p out and Native setting on 7200 to bypass scaler.

I have yet to calibrate the 7200 for the Oppo; using mostly default proj settings based on just upgraded v3.9 firmware. Picture looks pristine at 720p. Looked for macroblocking on Monsters Inc., Bug's Life, and Hotel Rwanda, but could see only hints of it at very close range only on Monsters Inc in first scene. I would consider myself not to have a discerning video eye. As to audio sync, I have thus far not watched a title uninterrupted very long so have not had a chance to give audio sync a decent test. Given that I don't often sit still in front of a movie without interruptions anyway, I doubt this would ever be a non-negligible issue for me.

Will shortly be getting a Gefen switcher to use with cable box, so I'll see how the Oppo does in this config.

So far I am happy with the unit.

Doug

It's passed due. When I spoke with them about three weeks ago, they told me to expect a new firmware within two weeks, but obviously it hasn't release yet. Maybe they found more bugs to fix. I'm just waiting for 1080p enabled firmware to play with.

Are you serious??
Will this player be able to pass 1080p over dvi with new firmware????

So far so good. Received refurb 971H yesterday direct from Oppo. Connected to 7200 via Infocus 10m cable w integrated M1 connector. Used 720p out and Native setting on 7200 to bypass scaler.

I have yet to calibrate the 7200 for the Oppo; using mostly default proj settings based on just upgraded v3.9 firmware. Picture looks pristine at 720p. Looked for macroblocking on Monsters Inc., Bug's Life, and Hotel Rwanda, but could see only hints of it at very close range only on Monsters Inc in first scene. I would consider myself not to have a discerning video eye. As to audio sync, I have thus far not watched a title uninterrupted very long so have not had a chance to give audio sync a decent test. Given that I don't often sit still in front of a movie without interruptions anyway, I doubt this would ever be a non-negligible issue for me.

Will shortly be getting a Gefen switcher to use with cable box, so I'll see how the Oppo does in this config.

So far I am happy with the unit.

Doug

Before buying a geffen switch, take a look at this: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10106&cs_id=1010602&p_id=2721&seq=1&format=2&style=

Excellent product at 1/2 and more of the price of Geffen.

Are you serious??
Will this player be able to pass 1080p over dvi with new firmware????

Awhile back someone posted that Oppo was working on it, it is nothing they are promising. In other words, it may or may not work prooerly. But at least it's a possibility, something to dream about.

Before buying a geffen switch, take a look at this: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10106&cs_id=1010602&p_id=2721&seq=1&format=2&style=

Excellent product at 1/2 and more of the price of Geffen.

I ran across that too on another forum. You say it's excellent from experience?
Up to now, switches that were under 100 were not remote.

Before buying a geffen switch, take a look at this: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10106&cs_id=1010602&p_id=2721&seq=1&format=2&style=

Excellent product at 1/2 and more of the price of Geffen.

Thanks. I had looked at the Monoprice site prior and decided to go with a Gefen, which is already shipped and expected on Monday. I also decided to get the version that does Digital Audio switching remotely as well, versus running a second 40' cable to my controller or using a manual switch.

Doug

Are you serious??
Will this player be able to pass 1080p over dvi with new firmware????

I was told by oppo tech person that 1080p feature was something that they will explore this year. Oppo wants to stay even more competitive with the market and with more 1080p upconverting players rolling out along with increasing availability of 1080p displays, it's a good time to unleash 1080p capability. The theoretical spec of current oppo hardware can do 1080p, it's just matter when they can test it and roll out the feature via firmware update. However, I wouldn't hold my breath on 1080p, but it would just be a nice added feature if oppo can enable it for us to play around.

Upconverted 1080p would be nice, but what I really like to see is Blue Ray Oppo player at the decent price point with sustained PQ. Well, I'll just dream about it next few months.

What exactly does Wide/SQZ do? Does it chop some of the pciture off to get rid of the black bars you get on the top and bottom of some DVDs?

What exactly does Wide/SQZ do? Does it chop some of the pciture off to get rid of the black bars you get on the top and bottom of some DVDs?It is not necessary to post in both threads. Answer here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6971431&&#post6971431)

What exactly does Wide/SQZ do? Does it chop some of the pciture off to get rid of the black bars you get on the top and bottom of some DVDs?


Wide/queeze mode has no effect on 16:9 material, but when the player sees a 4:3 flag it rescales the image to 4:3, losing some resolution, but allowing the image to appear as 4:3 at 720p and other upscaled resolutions over HDMI which often don't support 4:3 aspect ratio.

There's plenty of talk on this on both oppo threads, take a look around for more info.

Dave

Thank you , I could not find a OPPO newbi thread for beginers.

Has anyone compared the Oppo back to back the Denon 5910?

Thank you , I could not find a OPPO newbi thread for beginers.
Look at the first page of the oppo braindump thread.

Dave

Has anyone compared the Oppo back to back the Denon 5910?Kris Deering has. Look at the SECRETS reviews. Even though the OPPO scores one point higher than the 5910 on specific technical tests, Kris prefers the PQ of the 5910... but it costs 12 times more than the OPPO!

Kris Deering has. Look at the SECRETS reviews. Even though the OPPO scores one point higher than the 5910 on specific technical tests, Kris prefers the PQ of the 5910... but it costs 12 times more than the OPPO!
I wish the difference in PQ could be quantified. Is the 5910 PQ 20% better than the Oppo? If it's 20%, I'd get the 5910. 10% better than the Oppo? Maybe- I'd have to think pretty hard about it. Is the 5910 only 5% better? No way- I'm getting the Oppo!

Here's something from Ultimate AV: (http://www.guidetohometheater.com)

"I spent many hours comparing the OPDV971H with the far more expensive Lexicon RT-20 (review coming soon) on conventional, non-test DVDs, and was hard-pressed under those real-world conditions to see any drastic differences in picture quality. Because of its more sophisticated and finely calibrated picture adjustments you may be able to get a slightly sharper picture from a fully tweaked Lexicon (depending on the characteristics of the corresponding controls in your video display), but the Oppo doesn't give up much."

Anyone care to chime in on how much better the 5910 is? Kris? How many percent, LOL?

The complete review can be found here. (http://ultimateavmag.com/dvdplayers/1105oppo/)

I wish the difference in PQ could be quantified. Is the 5910 PQ 20% better than the Oppo? If it's 20%, I'd get the 5910. 10% better than the Oppo? Maybe- I'd have to think pretty hard about it. Is the 5910 only 5% better? No way- I'm getting the Oppo!

Here's something from Ultimate AV: (http://www.guidetohometheater.com)

"I spent many hours comparing the OPDV971H with the far more expensive Lexicon RT-20 (review coming soon) on conventional, non-test DVDs, and was hard-pressed under those real-world conditions to see any drastic differences in picture quality. Because of its more sophisticated and finely calibrated picture adjustments you may be able to get a slightly sharper picture from a fully tweaked Lexicon (depending on the characteristics of the corresponding controls in your video display), but the Oppo doesn't give up much."

Anyone care to chime in on how much better the 5910 is? Kris? How many percent, LOL?

The complete review can be found here. (http://ultimateavmag.com/dvdplayers/1105oppo/)


I think that the pq has to do with more expensive dacs and the fact that it has hdmi which is 10-12bit versus dvi at 8 bit......also to me the denon physically is a better looking machine......bottom line:

Even if Pq was 20% better[which i dont think it is] is it worth $3200.00 more???
No....Inorder to justify that you would have to have the "means" first of all, and then it would have to be at least..and i mean least that the PQ was close to "very noticable" on almost every reference dvd you have.....IMO

Ps-the denon would also have to come with a free hdmi cable as well...lol

I think that the pq has to do with more expensive dacs and the fact that it has hdmi which is 10-12bit versus dvi at 8 bit... True. Of course, this also assumes that you have a display with 10-12 bit processing to take advantage of that difference.

GabGuy, one other factor to consider, is macroblocking. If you have a display that enhances macroblocking when connected to a Faroudja player, you might be better off with the Denon. Aside from that, as the Ultimate AV review said, you would probably be "hard-pressed under those real-world conditions to see any drastic differences in picture quality". The differences would certainly not be worth 3200 to me!

Gary

I wish the difference in PQ could be quantified. Is the 5910 PQ 20% better than the Oppo? If it's 20%, I'd get the 5910. 10% better than the Oppo? Maybe- I'd have to think pretty hard about it. Is the 5910 only 5% better? No way- I'm getting the Oppo!

Here's something from Ultimate AV: (http://www.guidetohometheater.com)

"I spent many hours comparing the OPDV971H with the far more expensive Lexicon RT-20 (review coming soon) on conventional, non-test DVDs, and was hard-pressed under those real-world conditions to see any drastic differences in picture quality. Because of its more sophisticated and finely calibrated picture adjustments you may be able to get a slightly sharper picture from a fully tweaked Lexicon (depending on the characteristics of the corresponding controls in your video display), but the Oppo doesn't give up much."

Anyone care to chime in on how much better the 5910 is? Kris? How many percent, LOL?

The complete review can be found here. (http://ultimateavmag.com/dvdplayers/1105oppo/)

Well there IS a way to quantify the PQ difference. Take 2 identical displays and have them ISF calibrated. Connect the dvd players to the displays with the same brand and type of cable. Obtain two identical dvd's and simultaneouly play them side-by-side. Dust off an old statistics book from college and calculate the minimum number of people it would take to have a statistally-valid sample size. Invite the required number of people to participate in a PQ comparison survey. Have everyone rate the PQ from 1 - 10. Nobody knows which dvd player is producing which picture except you. Repeat the experiment with the Oppo and the 5910 playing on the other display. Average all the ratings for each dvd player and calculate the % difference in PQ for that model of display. Continue this experiment with other displays. After all this expenditure, now you can quantify how much better the 5910's PQ is.

Well there IS a way to quantify the PQ difference. Take 2 identical displays and have them ISF calibrated. Connect the dvd players to the displays with the same brand and type of cable. Obtain two identical dvd's and simultaneouly play them side-by-side. Dust off an old statistics book from college and calculate the minimum number of people it would take to have a statistally-valid sample size. Invite the required number of people to participate in a PQ comparison survey. Have everyone rate the PQ from 1 - 10. Nobody knows which dvd player is producing which picture except you. Repeat the experiment with the Oppo and the 5910 playing on the other display. Average all the ratings for each dvd player and calculate the % difference in PQ for that model of display. Continue this experiment with other displays. After all this expenditure, now you can quantify how much better the 5910's PQ is.

I'm interested to know if that's how you chose your oppo over your last player?

Dave

Oh, absolutely! Actually I was just having a little fun.

I wish the difference in PQ could be quantified. Is the 5910 PQ 20% better than the Oppo? If it's 20%, I'd get the 5910. 10% better than the Oppo? Maybe- I'd have to think pretty hard about it. Is the 5910 only 5% better? No way- I'm getting the Oppo!The Denon is actually 11.6% better.

The Denon is actually 11.6% better.

LOL, well I guess I'll keep my Oppo then :)

Who's better, Oppo or Superman? Or would Mr. T and Yoda kill them both?

Anyhoo, I thought I'd try to bounce THIS (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6844166&highlight=brick#post6844166) and THIS (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6827453&highlight=brick#post6827453) for those of us still unable to use our Oppo's to play certain DVD-A titles. Oppo can't fix anything unless they have one of the discs to test, and shipping over the continent is a bit prohibitive for me. Anybody in Oppo's local area (or anyone else) not able to play Talking Heads/Neil Young/etc. on their unit?

Who's better, Oppo or Superman? Or would Mr. T and Yoda kill them both?

Anyhoo, I thought I'd try to bounce THIS (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6844166&highlight=brick#post6844166) and THIS (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6827453&highlight=brick#post6827453) for those of us still unable to use our Oppo's to play certain DVD-A titles. Oppo can't fix anything unless they have one of the discs to test, and shipping over the continent is a bit prohibitive for me. Anybody in Oppo's local area (or anyone else) not able to play Talking Heads/Neil Young/etc. on their unit?

I would love to give OPPO a copy of the Talking Heads Brick, but I don't have 140 bones to spend for their perusing. Anything within the 20-30 USD range that barfs on your unit?

Oh, absolutely! Actually I was just having a little fun.

Me too--(I hope you knew that, otherwise you are fulfilling the stereotype of the US as an irony free zone! I guess that's why you invented 'emoticons')

Dave

I would love to give OPPO a copy of the Talking Heads Brick, but I don't have 140 bones to spend for their perusing. Anything within the 20-30 USD range that barfs on your unit?

I pulled out an older Pioneer DVD player I had which plays the Talking Heads brick set just fine. Kind of a PITA to have another piece of hardware in my rack just for the 5.1 set, but it sure is worth it after listening a few times. I just hope OPPO can fix this issue someday so I can permanently retire the Pioneer.

Seems like somebody at OPPO should be able to easily buy the set to troubleshoot. A company shouldn't have to ask its users to send a 10-disc set in to play with. just go buy it so they can see for themselves. Heck, then they'd have a great collection to listen to at the office...

I would love to give OPPO a copy of the Talking Heads Brick, but I don't have 140 bones to spend for their perusing. Anything within the 20-30 USD range that barfs on your unit?

Hey, now you know why I don't feel like splitting up a box to send cross border!

Nothing else barfs, but I understand that the Greenday disc (among other newer Rhino Dualdiscs) don't work.

Again, for the background, my understanding is that through simple changes to firmware the Pioneer players went from not being able to play these units to being able to.

I'm reading that last sentance over again, I think it's clear...:)

I understand that the Talking Heads discs will be available individually, and, if it comes down to that, I might just buy one for the fun of sending it to Oppo. My plea, however, is that some of the others that may be experiencing the same problems, people who may live near enough to Oppo to make it easy, could volunteer their discs for the greater cause.

Seems like somebody at OPPO should be able to easily buy the set to troubleshoot. A company shouldn't have to ask its users to send a 10-disc set in to play with. just go buy it so they can see for themselves. Heck, then they'd have a great collection to listen to at the office...

Yeah, this is what I got from them:

""Ted_b" mentioned that he was going to send in a disc for inspection,
but we have not received said disc. As such, we have no comment on what
discs are or aren't working properly on our OPDV971H. Once the disc is
received, we can do diagnostic tests on our DVD units."

Again, I'm by no means angry at Oppo for not owning these discs, and they've been super great in offering to diagnose the problem with my own disc. But splitting up a set to send x-border is dodgy at the best of times...

Ted, you still around these threads?

sharkshark, Just fly down here for a two week vacation!

I'm a little furstrated here...

The new firmware has been up for two months and STILL there's no version that works with the silver remote.

Might I remind Oppo that users with a silver remote are the ones that have supported Oppo the longest! I can't understand how supporting a remote can take so long.

I emailed Oppo asking when the firmware would support the silver remote and they said "the next firmware will support it."

I emailed again and pointed out that I asked WHEN... they have not replied yet.

The 2:2 PAL support is a biggie for me, I watch lots of native PAL discs and enjoy the extra resolution but there has always been a bit of edge aliasing - I'm dying to find out if the new firmware fixed this!

sharkshark, Just fly down here for a two week vacation!

heh, dude, got a place to crash? With an Oppo? :)

Totally sucky, as above notes, that there's no current firmware for Silver remote cats, but you should note that the only real update to this firmware (as far as I know) is that the default for Brightness is set back to 0 (instead of the suggested setting of -3).

Getting the $5 remote is a big improvement, I'd suggest, but your point is certainly taken.

The European beta firmware released on December 26 supports all three remotes. Oppo is delaying release in the US until they fix a few other bugs.

Version 1226 beta (http://www.livingcinema.dnsalias.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=38)

I pulled out an older Pioneer DVD player I had which plays the Talking Heads brick set just fine. Kind of a PITA to have another piece of hardware in my rack just for the 5.1 set, but it sure is worth it after listening a few times. I just hope OPPO can fix this issue someday so I can permanently retire the Pioneer.

Seems like somebody at OPPO should be able to easily buy the set to troubleshoot. A company shouldn't have to ask its users to send a 10-disc set in to play with. just go buy it so they can see for themselves. Heck, then they'd have a great collection to listen to at the office...

And as a company you also have a bottom line you have to control. If OPPO bought every disc they had a problem playing, they would quickly be out of revenue. I can understand why they are not going out to their local music emporium and buying the Brick set. OPPO has offered to receive, inspect, and return discs, which seems fair to me.

I am offering to purchase and give if the price is right. 140 is too steep, but 20-30 is about an hour and a half worth of work (damn you taxes).

So, if anyone knows of a specific disc within the 20-30 price range that completely craps out on the DVD-Audio portion, shoot me a line.

As a related item, is DVD-Audio dead? Is SACD the next audio the winner then?

Me too--(I hope you knew that, otherwise you are fulfilling the stereotype of the US as an irony free zone! I guess that's why you invented 'emoticons')

Dave

:)

is the picture quality as good if i go dvi to vga on my panasonic 900 from the oppo.the length it has to travel is 10 meters or should i get a dvi to hdmi cable and wil it work over that length

is the picture quality as good if i go dvi to vga on my panasonic 900 from the oppo.the length it has to travel is 10 meters or should i get a dvi to hdmi cable and wil it work over that length

You can't use a DVI to VGA adapter/cable, as the OPDV971H does not have an analog signal going out of DVI output.

I use a 25' DVI-HDMI run at work on a Panasonic AE900U without a problem. I bought my cable from MonoPrice.com

As a related item, is DVD-Audio dead? Is SACD the next audio the winner then?

I would say both will live out their lives as novelty.

I wouldn't call SACD a novelty, even if it won't ever become a dominant format it sounds much closer to vinyl/analogue then CD, so I'd say it might become an audiophile format. I wish the OPPO played SACD's, I still have about 30 from my pre-OPPO days and miss the sound quality.

I wouldn't call SACD a novelty, even if it won't ever become a dominant format it sounds much closer to vinyl/analogue then CD, so I'd say it might become an audiophile format.

So what would you call DVD-Audio, then?

I have Dark Side of the Moon in dualdisc SACD only because the store didn't have the regular one; the OPPO only has DVDA and I have therfore never heard the SACD version - I'm OK with that, I generally listen to music through headphones anyway. Audiophile format is novelty to those who aren't audiophiles, which is the overwhelming majority of the market.

heh, dude, got a place to crash? With an Oppo? :)

Totally sucky, as above notes, that there's no current firmware for Silver remote cats, but you should note that the only real update to this firmware (as far as I know) is that the default for Brightness is set back to 0 (instead of the suggested setting of -3).

Getting the $5 remote is a big improvement, I'd suggest, but your point is certainly taken.
I work less than 3 miles from the Oppo location.

Can I assume that a bit-for-bit copy of the disc won't work? I don't happen to own any of these discs but I'd be happy to make and deliver a copy. If you want to send me one I can take it from here and get your original back to you.

The European beta firmware released on December 26 supports all three remotes. Oppo is delaying release in the US until they fix a few other bugs.

Version 1226 beta (http://www.livingcinema.dnsalias.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=38)

I had Oppo send me the 1224 beta firmware and I wasn't impressed. I immediately flashed back to the 1111b version. I didn't have the picture shift issue with the 1022 or 1111 versions, however I did see it with the latest fw. Lip sync issues have never been an issue for me so I can't comment on the extended delay settings. I just wish they could just give us the ability to shift the picture right or left on the player. I had a Panasonic player a few models back that did have this ability. I would appreciate any other comments by those who have tried the 1224 beta firmware.

Josh Z: " So what would you call DVD-Audio, then?"
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Same thing, sorry if I offended by omission ;)

Brinyhenry, did you try the delay setings with the new firmware. I am using it with no problems. The picture is very good and I think that if you set the delay to 100 or 120 you will not have a lip sync problem.

No, no, no rwestly. I don't have a lip sync problem so I would not use the delay settings. The problem I was experiencing with the 1224b fw is the horizontal shift to the left. Many users have seen this with the 1111b fw. I haven't seen it until I flashed the 1224b fw.

Sorry, for my misreading your post. You were right to go back to the 1022 fimware. It seems that the shift problem has not been fixed for all displays. That is the reason why they did not release this firmware. They are working on it and hopefully it will be corrected in the next non-beta release.

It would be nice if they could make it so we would be able to adjust and center the horizontal. I owned a Panasonic player several models back that had this ability.

Sometimes we need a comparison to realize just how good we Oppo owners have it. I just had such an experience.

I bought a Panasonic HTIB SC-HT15 about nine months ago. It's under $300. I bought it because it doesn't incorporate a DVD player. It really is a swell little unit and works wonderfully well with the Oppo.

A few days ago one of the digital optical ports stopped working. Oh oh. It is within the one year parts and labor warranty so I decided to try and get some help in resolving the issue. LOL. Panasonic is inpenetrable. Customer "service" is nonexistent. The best I could do was get a list of "Authorized Service Centers" from them, the same list that's on their web site. Oh, and I got a case number. Swell. Send it off and pray. I called the one closest to me and asked how long it would before my unit might got evaluated. The lady answering the phone said "Six months. He's really swamped." I kid you not.

Fortunately, I managed to fix the problem myself by reverting all settings to factory default. No one at Panasonic gave a hoot. The dot com selling dealer wasn't any help.

Such is customer service in the (waste)land of consumer electronics. Oppo is something special, certainly. We need to appreciate what we have, while we have it.

Thank you, Oppo.

Dana

Dana,

Great post and one that many "how can I save a few bucks" types should read.

I also installed the 1224 beta firmware. I think the 1080i picture quality is a lot better. I noticed that the "jitter" from the opening shot of Return of the Sith (the camera panning down to the big space ship) was gone. Lots of people on here reported that jitter.

There is less "haloing" during fades to black, at least on my TV. I just re-watched Sith and The Aviator and the PQ seemed better.

SV

Such is customer service in the (waste)land of consumer electronics. Oppo is something special, certainly. We need to appreciate what we have, while we have it.

Thank you, Oppo.

Dana

And how interesting we pay even less for better service.

I work less than 3 miles from the Oppo location.

Can I assume that a bit-for-bit copy of the disc won't work? I don't happen to own any of these discs but I'd be happy to make and deliver a copy. If you want to send me one I can take it from here and get your original back to you.

My friend, if you could do bit-for-bit with DVD-A, well, there would be a magical golden age of fun and wonder... Nah, they actually got the copy protection right on these discs, and while you can of course DECSS the dvd layer, it won't be much of a test to be sure.

Very nice those that have offered - again, the only discs that I've got that barf are the Brick ones (the 40+ other DVD-A, and my two other DDs are fine). Here's the rub - they're the newest compliance for DualDisc, and discs in the future (from Warner/Rhino, really the major player still in this format) will use this form of encoding.

First of all, as I mentioned, the discs in the Brick are to be released individually this month, so that's an option. Secondly, I heard on this very board that some of the Neil Young discs wouldn't play. If -anybody- else is around with a disc that won't play (and isn't the mighty Brick) then chime up! :)

SACD is lovely. DVD-A is lovely. DualDisc is a compromise for me to still get titles, but not nearly as nice or elegant as the 2-disc set (a la the forthcoming Flaming Lips "Soft Bulletin" - yay!).

On a side note, for those that have the equipment, a bunch of analogue cables, I highly recommend devling into the highrez world of audio. If the formats died tomorrow, I'd still have magnificent mixes of DOSTM, Elton John and Dylan (SACD), Paul Simon, Fleetwood Mac and Polyphonic Spree (DVD-A) to cherish for years to come.

I also installed the 1224 beta firmware. I think the 1080i picture quality is a lot better. I noticed that the "jitter" from the opening shot of Return of the Sith (the camera panning down to the big space ship) was gone. Lots of people on here reported that jitter.

There is less "haloing" during fades to black, at least on my TV. I just re-watched Sith and The Aviator and the PQ seemed better.

SV
I tried the 1224 (european) beta firmware. Both 720p and 1080i look exactly the same to me. The 1080i still had that slight jittery nature to it, like before. The "jitter" in the opening shot of SW EP3 is still there in the pan down. MB and haloing seem the same as before. The player actually reacts slower when stopping/starting and chapter skips...

I reflashed back to the normal US firmware on Oppo's site. The beta firmware doesn't seem to give me any benefits at all.

-Terry

I tried the 1224 (european) beta firmware.

The European 1224 is actually final. It is not a Beta, despite some of the problems with the firmware.

What are the pros and cons of having your DVD be upscaled from a DVD player or an AV Receiver? Can do both? I am in the market for a DVD player and receiver and wonder if I might run into redundancy or conflict.

I tried the 1224 (european) beta firmware. Both 720p and 1080i look exactly the same to me. The 1080i still had that slight jittery nature to it, like before. The "jitter" in the opening shot of SW EP3 is still there in the pan down. MB and haloing seem the same as before. The player actually reacts slower when stopping/starting and chapter skips...

I reflashed back to the normal US firmware on Oppo's site. The beta firmware doesn't seem to give me any benefits at all.

-Terry

What you're seeing on the screen isn't all done by DVD player alone. It still has to be processed by your display and the PQ will only be as good as the display will allow it to be. Not all HDTV on the market today can properly handle 1080i feed. Hence if your HDTV falls into those units on the black list, then it's probably wise to stick with 720p.

I just wanted to point out that before anyone starts exploring 1080i feed from any video source, make sure your display can properly deinterlace the data and display it properly. If not, then 720p will be the best your display can handle.

What are the pros and cons of having your DVD be upscaled from a DVD player or an AV Receiver? Can do both? I am in the market for a DVD player and receiver and wonder if I might run into redundancy or conflict.

Depending on your dvd player or receiver, you want the one with the better deinterlacer/scaler. I must advise you though, for receivers, the term upconversion is usually used incorrectly. When most people refer to upconversion on receivers, they mean transcoding of svideo/composite to component. Receivers that "upscale" usually have a video processor of some sort and will deinterlace composite/svideo/480i component to 480p and/or scale it to 720p/1080i.

What you're seeing on the screen isn't all done by DVD player alone. It still has to be processed by your display and the PQ will only be as good as the display will allow it to be. Not all HDTV on the market today can properly handle 1080i feed. Hence if your HDTV falls into those units on the black list, then it's probably wise to stick with 720p.

I just wanted to point out that before anyone starts exploring 1080i feed from any video source, make sure your display can properly deinterlace the data and display it properly. If not, then 720p will be the best your display can handle.
Yeah, I understand that. I have had the Oppo since the earliest days it was out (silver remote.) I've been using it at 720p since the beginning, which I am completely fine with. I just wanted to respond the other user saying 1080i is "better" after using the Eurpoean firmware. For my particular setup, it is exactly the same... it's not any better.

(My display is fine and stable with 1080i from a SA8300HD DVR/cable box, FWIW.)

-Terry

Oppo sent me the 1224 Firmware, knowing I was in the US.

They've also sent me another firmware, F-0126, that I haven't tried yet.

The jitter/stutter from Sith is gone, so maybe it's just a combo of your display and the oppo then. (although people with a variety of displays reported the Sith jitter)

SV

F-0126?

whats that about?

I should email and ask what they fixed.

They won't send me 0126 they said a new firmware is due in AROUND 2 weeks :)

F-0126?

whats that about?

I should email and ask what they fixed.

OP971-F-0126 is an updated 1224 firmware (ie. closer to release candidacy). There are minor changes (such as the delay going from 0-100 in 10ms intervals, rather than 0-120 in 20ms intervals).

I was also told that the official release will be in about two weeks.

I had an interesting experience tonight with my Oppo. I had left a DVD half finished last night and went back to finish it tonight.

Unless I am watching a DVD on the Oppo, my projector input is set to component for the cable box and the Xbox game system. My MX-500 system off macro sets to Component before the projector shuts down.

Anyway, I was on the Component input watching cable and decided it was time to finish the movie. When I turned on the Oppo power, I was surprised when the projector input suddenly switched to HDMI! It seemed to me that the Oppo changed the display mode automatically to set the playback up the same as it had been the night before.

Anyone else had this happen, or does anyone know if this is a feature of the Oppo?

Ok, I've seen this SOMEWHERE in the 10000 or so posts, but god knows a search couldn't find anything.

I've noticed on a couple discs (particularly Panic Room special edition, that I just got around finally to digging into) the Oppo =hangs= on the "This commentary isn't by us, so don't sue us" screen. Quite annoying, it just loops and loops. I have to press stop, and then randomly press menu/title/FF/play until something comes up (usually a couple chapters in), then I'm able to navigate -back- to the main menu fine, and select at will.

I bring it up because a) it's really, really annoying, b) it's not dissimilar to what happens with the DVD-Audio discs, except that they never can break out of that loop.

So, anybody see this little hiccup?

OP971-F-0126 is an updated 1224 firmware (ie. closer to release candidacy). There are minor changes (such as the delay going from 0-100 in 10ms intervals, rather than 0-120 in 20ms intervals).

Thanx for the Info.

okay, i've read chunks of the thread, but as im sure you know, its just really long.

i have a dlp sammy hlp4663w with the oppo. Now at 720p it doesn't fill the screen up, whereas 1080i does. I don't notice any major difference between the two, and as far as i know 720p is the native resolution of my tv so i would imagine it to fill the screen.

can anyone shed some light on why it doesn't fill the screen? leaves about 1 inch on all sides at 720p.

thanks,
--soheil

edit: also i got an email from oppo sayin the new firmware is about 2 weeks from an "official" release

i have a dlp sammy hlp4663w with the oppo. Now at 720p it doesn't fill the screen up, whereas 1080i does. I don't notice any major difference between the two, and as far as i know 720p is the native resolution of my tv so i would imagine it to fill the screen.

can anyone shed some light on why it doesn't fill the screen? leaves about 1 inch on all sides at 720p. This has nothing to do with the player. Your TV has 4 "Picture Size" modes in the User Menu. For 1:1 pixel-mapping at 720p you should be using the "Expand" setting. If you still have a problem, ask on the Samsung HLP threads.

Gary

So, anybody see this little hiccup? Yes, it happens fairly repeatably on certain disks (very few, actually)... sometimes while loading, sometimes while ploughing through the trash at the beginning of the disk.

So, anybody see this little hiccup?

This is a problem that mainly effects Sony discs. It is likely a RCE error which incorrectly picking up the OPDV971H as being R0, despite it being R1 (in most cases).

At the first opportunity press Stop, then Menu. This will directly access the film and bypass those damned warning screens.

Anyway, I was on the Component input watching cable and decided it was time to finish the movie. When I turned on the Oppo power, I was surprised when the projector input suddenly switched to HDMI! It seemed to me that the Oppo changed the display mode automatically to set the playback up the same as it had been the night before.

Now I am thinking this had nothing to do with the Oppo, but the projector detected the HDMI device coming on and automatically switched from component to HDMI.

This is a problem that mainly effects Sony discs. It is likely a RCE error which incorrectly picking up the OPDV971H as being R0, despite it being R1 (in most cases).

At the first opportunity press Stop, then Menu. This will directly access the film and bypass those damned warning screens.

I do that, and it jumps not to the menu to but to some random chapter mid-film. Picking up on region 0 sounds like a likely cause, I'll play with that, thanks.

any improve in 50hz pal sync issue in new firm? oppo don´t sync at all with my display.

oppo with my 7700pj looks great in ntsc but i´m loosing that xtra resolution with Pal discs.

any improve in 50hz pal sync issue in new firm? oppo don´t sync at all with my display.

oppo with my 7700pj looks great in ntsc but i´m loosing that xtra resolution with Pal discs.

No, the 1224 still plays at 60hz on my panny ae700.

Dave

Thought this might be interesting for some of you. The OPDV971H will do MP3 Suffle and Random in multiple folders. The secret?

When you first put in the MP3 disc and are brought to the Explorer window, press the Angle key. This will flatten all folders into one view.
Now press the Repeat key to shuffle through the different playback modes.

Low and behold, all of your files will now play in Random/Shuffle modes. Previously, only MP3s within the same DIR could do this. But if you flatten the folder structure, it works without a hitche.

This has been double posted. Please only respond in the FAQ/Brain Dump.

Can some one post a link to 0126?
Support refused sending it to me.

What all is this next firmware supposed to "fix"?

Are we still stuck with the horrendous scaling for pillarboxing and zooming? Anything meaningful been addressed we should be aware of?

thanks!

p.s. been off the thread for a while and I've combed through it but haven't found much...

Please tell me the best possible match or issues to mate the Oppo with a LCD 32"

I'm considering buying either Samsung LN-R328W or Sharp Aquos LC 32D4U.

Which of these two would be best ? How would MB look like ? Any mismatch ? I'll have to buy a DVI to HDMI converter. Will it be OK: which one ?

Thanks !

Please tell me the best possible match or issues to mate the Oppo with a LCD 32"

I'm considering buying either Samsung LN-R328W or Sharp Aquos LC 32D4U.

Which of these two would be best ? How would MB look like ? Any mismatch ? I'll have to buy a DVI to HDMI converter. Will it be OK: which one ?

Thanks !

I briefly connected my Oppo to my Samsung LN-R328W and it worked fine (used the included HDMI/DVI cable). I primarily use the Oppo for my Samsung DLP in the living room and it works great on that. But no compatability issues to worry about on the LCD.

I have been very happy w/ my 328W, BTW.

Please tell me the best possible match or issues to mate the Oppo with a LCD 32"

I'm considering buying either Samsung LN-R328W or Sharp Aquos LC 32D4U.

Which of these two would be best ? How would MB look like ? Any mismatch ? I'll have to buy a DVI to HDMI converter. Will it be OK: which one ?

Thanks !
Both of those tvs are excellent. The Sharp offers additional features such a cable card support and I believe it has a built-in digital tuner. Panasonic also offers a very nice 32" LCD set as well. It just so happens that my Dad has the Panasonic set and I've seen it hooked-up to my Oppo player and it was exceptional.

I suggest you just pick whichever one looks best to you. Connectivity to any of these is pretty much the same.

What all is this next firmware supposed to "fix"?

Are we still stuck with the horrendous scaling for pillarboxing and zooming? Anything meaningful been addressed we should be aware of?

thanks!

p.s. been off the thread for a while and I've combed through it but haven't found much...

Nothing meaningful. Zooming and pillarboxing through the Faroudja chipset is still something we would all like, but will likely not be addressed anytime soon (OPPO has new products coming out, and that requires many a engineer to successfully launch).

The firmware after next will be very important to PAL users, as this has been reported by OPPO to address PAL Syncronization Polarity issues. They have finally found the cause for the improper PAL output. Keep your fingers crossed.

The firmware after next will be very important to PAL users, as this has been reported by OPPO to address PAL Syncronization Polarity issues. They have finally found the cause for the improper PAL output. Keep your fingers crossed. That's very good news. I hope this will address the problem I'm experiencing with my Pana Plasma display (HD8) and the Oppo.
With PAL discs at 720p and 1080i (50 Hz) I get no picture. At 576p I have no problems.

Please tell me the best possible match or issues to mate the Oppo with a LCD 32"

I'm considering buying either Samsung LN-R328W or Sharp Aquos LC 32D4U.

Which of these two would be best ? How would MB look like ? Any mismatch ? I'll have to buy a DVI to HDMI converter. Will it be OK: which one ?

Thanks !

There may be some serious issues with the OPDV971H and the Sharp Aquos LC 32D4U. I have heard some errors associated to the OPDV971H and the HDMI input of the Sharp. In most cases, through the HDMI input, either there will be no picture, or a picture that has a color shift associated to it (brown, green, yellow, and so forth). Some people have claimed that using the 1022 firmware addresses this issue, while others experience it no matter what.

Then again, this is all third hand information. I do not know how reliable it is.

They have finally found the cause for the improper PAL output. Keep your fingers crossed.

Great News¡¡¡

No, the 1224 still plays at 60hz on my panny ae700.

I have no problem getting 750p/50 output over DVI to my AE500.

Make sure that:
- Oppo's video output system is set to AUTO
- Panny's EDID type is set to EDID1

I have no problem getting 750p/50 output over DVI to my AE500.

Make sure that:
- Oppo's video output system is set to AUTO
- Panny's EDID type is set to EDID1

What is EDID? Does it exist on the 700/900 or is it a 500 thing?

Dave

Did some rooting around and found this on the ae700 tweakthread:

"from some research i've discovered that there was a similar issue with the AE500, but it had an extra option in the menus to change EDID to EDID2. (I don't have an AE500 but I have read articles saying "if the projector says 750/60p then set EDID to EDID2 and hey-presto, you have 720/60p 1:1 pixel mapping"

so it would seem the problem is in reading video data from the card, and that this was already a known issue in the AE500 - why oh why don't we have such an option on the AE700??"


The EDID option is out on the 700, then.

Can anyone explain/describe what the likely consequences of a failure to synch at 50hz on PAL would look like?

On my set up when I play PAL discs on the oppo the picture is as good as I'd want from a good source.

Static images are wonderful, whip pans are blurred, but then they are supposed to be. Some slow pans might be 'torn,' i.e., I get a kind of double image of, say, someone's face or a slight judder on the pan.

A classic example which many of you would be familiar with would be the montage of Video and Audio demonstration on DVE. The image is very sharp, and the colours are rich, but on the slow pan of the sky scrapers there is always a slight judder; on the faces and bodies of the 'all american' guys and girls there's some smearing in their quick movements. Yet on things like the ferris wheel the image looks absolutely perfect.

Are these slight aberrations normal or does this reflect the PAL problems? Can anyone who knows report, and anyone who has the NTSC version of DVE (mines the PAL) and a ae700 take a look?

Thanks.

Dave

Please tell me the best possible match or issues to mate the Oppo with a LCD 32"

I'm considering buying either Samsung LN-R328W or Sharp Aquos LC 32D4U.

Which of these two would be best ? How would MB look like ? Any mismatch ? I'll have to buy a DVI to HDMI converter. Will it be OK: which one ?

Thanks !
Neuromancer is right. I have a Sharp Aquos LC32-DA5U connected to my Oppo OPDV971H via HDMI, and there is indeed an issue. The Sharp will not display properly at 720p. 1080i works fine, though I have nothing to compare it to. Oppo Support (replying overnight to my query, by the way) says "There have been some growing problems with the new line of Sharp Aquos LCDs. 720p through HDMI does not display properly. We have opened an investigation ticket with Sharp about this issue, as their DVI inputs do not have this problem." So, while I like the two components individually, I would not recommend the combination. Oppo offered to take the player back, but I think I'll keep it because I want its region-free NTSC/PAL capability, and the options in this price range are limited.

Static images are wonderful, whip pans are blurred, but then they are supposed to be. Some slow pans might be 'torn,' i.e., I get a kind of double image of, say, someone's face or a slight judder on the pan.

A classic example which many of you would be familiar with would be the montage of Video and Audio demonstration on DVE. The image is very sharp, and the colours are rich, but on the slow pan of the sky scrapers there is always a slight judder; on the faces and bodies of the 'all american' guys and girls there's some smearing in their quick movements. Yet on things like the ferris wheel the image looks absolutely perfect.



Dave,
Please forgive me if I've misinterpreted your issues, but I myself had been experiencing much of the same PAL behaviour on my 50U series Panny plasma.
Pursuant to a member recommendation, I was able to eliminate all of these issues by setting the "TV Type" on the Oppo to "NTSC"(as opposed to "AUTO" as recommended by the manual) to thereby force the conversion and synch.
(v1224b, Video mode = VIDEO2)
I'm certainly not sure that this will help with your projector, but it may be worth a try in the event that the issue exists within Panasonic's boards.

Peter

Dave,
Please forgive me if I've misinterpreted your issues, but I myself had been experiencing much of the same PAL behaviour on my 50U series Panny plasma.
Pursuant to a member recommendation, I was able to eliminate all of these issues by setting the "TV Type" on the Oppo to "NTSC"(as opposed to "AUTO" as recommended by the manual) to thereby force the conversion and synch.
(v1224b, Video mode = VIDEO2)
I'm certainly not sure that this will help with your projector, but it may be worth a try in the event that the issue exists within Panasonic's boards.

Peter

Thanks for the input. I'll certainly give it a whirl. However, what I really want is the oppo/ae700 to play PAL natively, after all they do say they can do that on the box, and conversion will probably bring its own problems.

Dave

Neuromancer is right. I have a Sharp Aquos LC32-DA5U connected to my Oppo OPDV971H via HDMI, and there is indeed an issue. The Sharp will not display properly at 720p. 1080i works fine, though I have nothing to compare it to. Oppo Support (replying overnight to my query, by the way) says "There have been some growing problems with the new line of Sharp Aquos LCDs. 720p through HDMI does not display properly. We have opened an investigation ticket with Sharp about this issue, as their DVI inputs do not have this problem." So, while I like the two components individually, I would not recommend the combination. Oppo offered to take the player back, but I think I'll keep it because I want its region-free NTSC/PAL capability, and the options in this price range are limited.


Have you tried going back to the OP971-D-1022 Firmware (http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_1022_download.html) ? Two of the people who I talked to on other forums found that dropping back to the 1022 firmware corrected the colorspace problem they were experiencing with the 1111B firmware.

There may be some serious issues with the OPDV971H and the Sharp Aquos LC 32D4U. I have heard some errors associated to the OPDV971H and the HDMI input of the Sharp. In most cases, through the HDMI input, either there will be no picture, or a picture that has a color shift associated to it (brown, green, yellow, and so forth). Some people have claimed that using the 1022 firmware addresses this issue, while others experience it no matter what.

Then again, this is all third hand information. I do not know how reliable it is.
This is interesting. I wonder what the real culprit is? My buddy has the Aquos LC-45GD4U and a Sony Dream System with an upconverting DVD Player connected via HDMI - and he does not see these issues.

You think this is specific to the Oppo?

This is interesting. I wonder what the real culprit is? My buddy has the Aquos LC-45GD4U and a Sony Dream System with an upconverting DVD Player connected via HDMI - and he does not see these issues.

You think this is specific to the Oppo?

OPPO has always had a problem with the Sharp HDMI interface. IN the past, 720p would not work at all when using the HDMI input. In the later generation glass, HDMI worked, but the colorspace is wrong. The engineers tested both their TV and the OPPO with a HDMI signal generator, and both were perfect matches when it came to pixel resolution and vertical and horizontal synch rates. An investigation ticket was started, but there has been no update between the two companies.

has anyone used the oppo with the zenith z50px2d 50" plasma? any issues with macroblocking or any other issues?

The EDID option is out on the 700, then.
I probably can't help you out much then. You should try posting the question to an AE700 thread.

On the AE500 there are two EDID options. I noticed that with EDID2 my projector was always reporting WIDE720 as the picture mode. With EDID1 set, it would report 750P on 60Hz input and 750P/50 on 50Hz input.

Can anyone explain/describe what the likely consequences of a failure to synch at 50hz on PAL would look like?
If the projector can't sync to the 50Hz input, it's probably not going to display anything at all.

I probably can't help you out much then. You should try posting the question to an AE700 thread.

On the AE500 there are two EDID options. I noticed that with EDID2 my projector was always reporting WIDE720 as the picture mode. With EDID1 set, it would report 750P on 60Hz input and 750P/50 on 50Hz input.


If the projector can't sync to the 50Hz input, it's probably not going to display anything at all.


Yeah, thanks anyway. I do get a picture--a very very good one (I'm not sure if I'm complaining or inquiring)--it's just that the ae700 reports 750p (720p)/60hz when it plays PAL discs, so I wonder if the pj is taking the 25fps and then doing something to make it play at 60hz, like playing some frames three times instead of twice. Or whether it's just glitch in the 700 software that makes it misreport. I'm fairly sure, however, that it is some version of the the former.

I did post this on the ae700 threads--to a stoney silence!.

Dave

Hi,

I did a quick search in this forum but wasn't able to find an answer... maybe there are too many related discussions. It's a very Newbie question, my apologies.

My problem: I just purchased an Oppo along with an Epson Cinema 550 LCD Projector, 1280x720 resolution. I have them connected via an HDMI-to-DVI cable. Though DVDs look great on the projector, when I switch to 'Through' aspect mode on the projector (where it does no upscaling, just shows the image in true 1-to-1 pixel relationship), it shows the movie much smaller, basically 720x480. I tried clicking on the DVI button on the remote to switch output res but I get the circle-with-a-slash saying I can't do anything. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Scott

Sounds as though the OPPO is only set to output 480P...and for some reason switching output resolutions causes the projector to lose sync.

Try turning off the "through" setting and *then* cycle the OPPO's DVI to "720P". Then try turning "thru" back on and see if it does 1:1.

I tried clicking on the DVI button on the remote to switch output res but I get the circle-with-a-slash saying I can't do anything. What am I doing wrong?

The player needs to be stopped before you can change resolution with the DVI button.

Steve.

Thanks to both DaViD Boulet and Steve East for your quick replies! Steve's suggestion turned out to be the correct one... as I said, it was a newbie question. I had tried going to the DVD menu but I hadn't tried actually stopping the DVD. Next I'll experiment to see which looks better with my setup, 720p or 1080i, though I'm guessing that 720p is the way to go as it's a 720p projector.

Thanks again!
Scott

I can't believe it's been almost two weeks without a post!

Anyways, it was my understanding that a new firmware release was right around the corner. Do we have an updates on this ?

I can't believe it's been almost two weeks without a post!

Anyways, it was my understanding that a new firmware release was right around the corner. Do we have an updates on this ?

I recieved this E-mail today.

"Next week if not the week after. The engineers added some new features
and fixes, which means the QA department has to retest everything".

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.

What's in the new firmware? I sure hope it fixes the underscan issue and wouldn't mind if they adjusted the "skip" function to skip properly instead of jumping tracks.

I can't believe it's been almost two weeks without a post!

Anyways, it was my understanding that a new firmware release was right around the corner. Do we have an updates on this ?


We'd all drifted to the other thread...now you've resurrected this one confusion and double posting will reign again!

Dave

Can the Oppo output 800 X 600 PC resolution to match my SVGA projector ? I know the momitsu V880 can do this but from I've read Oppo is a better player. I also have to get DVI to VGA transcoder for the Oppo.

Can the Oppo output 800 X 600 PC resolution to match my SVGA projector ? I know the momitsu V880 can do this but from I've read Oppo is a better player. I also have to get DVI to VGA transcoder for the Oppo.

The Oppo cannot do custom resolutions. It will only do 480p, 576p, 540p, 720p, and 1080i over DVI. Just to be clear, most of the cheaper dvi to vga adapters are DVI-A (analog) to VGA adapters. The Oppo outputs DVI-D (digital). You will need to get an expensive adapter (most likely costing more than the oppo) that will transcode DVI-D to VGA.

Ja Phule,

I was going to get the Moome external transcoder box. If I fed the PJ with 480p or 720p signal would it show up as 800 X 600 resolution ? or perhaps 640 X 480 resolution ?
I am currently using HTPC output 800 X 600.

Perhaps Momitsu is the way to go and I wouldn't need the transcoder box either, just DVI to VGA adapter. I am just concern the PQ wouldn't be as good.

What's in the new firmware? I sure hope it fixes the underscan issue and wouldn't mind if they adjusted the "skip" function to skip properly instead of jumping tracks.

The Skip function has been fixed for CD support.

Underscanning has not been fixed.

Ja Phule,

I was going to get the Moome external transcoder box. If I fed the PJ with 480p or 720p signal would it show up as 800 X 600 resolution ? or perhaps 640 X 480 resolution ?
I am currently using HTPC output 800 X 600.

Perhaps Momitsu is the way to go and I wouldn't need the transcoder box either, just DVI to VGA adapter. I am just concern the PQ wouldn't be as good.

If your projector is 800x600 native, then it will take any signal it receives and scale it to 800x600. Assuming it will accept 480p and 720p, it may show that it is receiving 720p (1280x720) or 480p (720x480) but it will still be scaled to 800x600 in some way using its internal scaler. If you are feeding it 800x600 from the momitsu, then no scaling is needed.

What's in the new firmware? I sure hope it fixes the underscan issue and wouldn't mind if they adjusted the "skip" function to skip properly instead of jumping tracks.

According to an E-mail I'd recieved, these are some of the fixes that we can expect:

"1080i has been enhanced.

The major adjustments in the new firmware will be proper PAL output and
settings, longer filename structure support, basic MP3 ID3 Tag support,
support for the first generation remote, and some basic playback changes
for CDs".

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
453 Ravendale Dr, Suite D
Mountain View, CA 94043

Just thought I'd mention this. IGN just got around to reviewing the Oppo. Here is the link:

http://gear.ign.com/articles/689/689155p1.html

Only about a YEAR late, but hey, its just another good review notched in the Oppo belt. :D

I was wondering if I have a problem? My 971H is showing blurring of moving
objects. It's also showing still images at random times superimposed briefly
during regular playback. This occurs at all resolutions through the DVI
port. I've tried the player on my LG 50" plasma HDTV and on my Sony VPL-HS51
projector. This was not occuring with several other upconverting DVD players
I have used with my setup. Any ideas?

Just thought I'd mention this. IGN just got around to reviewing the Oppo. Here is the link:

http://gear.ign.com/articles/689/689155p1.html

Only about a YEAR late, but hey, its just another good review notched in the Oppo belt. :D
No slam against the Oppo, but that reviewer lost all credibility in my eyes when he admitted that his sound system was a five-speaker Bose system. Tsk tsk tsk...

Scott Gammans,

If it does not have highs, or lows, it must be BOSE. *sigh*

I was wondering if I have a problem? My 971H is showing blurring of moving
objects. It's also showing still images at random times superimposed briefly
during regular playback. This occurs at all resolutions through the DVI
port. I've tried the player on my LG 50" plasma HDTV and on my Sony VPL-HS51
projector. This was not occuring with several other upconverting DVD players
I have used with my setup. Any ideas?See the OPPO FAQ thread. Known problem. Turn ON Truelife and turn OFF NR.

If it does not have highs, or lows, it must be BOSE. *sigh*

It's also defined in the custom install market as Better Off with Something Else. :D

Thanks Trickdaddy. Still don't understand why the lip sync and underscan issues aren't the first priorities.

Is anyone using the Oppo with a Sony Bravia 32" or 40"? Any comments about PQ with this combination?

Thanks Trickdaddy. Still don't understand why the lip sync and underscan issues aren't the first priorities.

Because they are monstrous errors. It is easier to attack smaller problems and release them than to hold off on everything as you wait for the engineers to come up with some solution.

As to lip synch, it's been an issue with my player for as long as I've owned it. However, given Oppo's attention to customer feedback, I have to believe they are working on it. Sure would be nice to get it taken care of.
Javry

" Sure would be nice to get it taken care of. Javry"

I second that motion!

I just got my oppo today and have a problem. My picture on my Sony SXRD is shifted to left. I am using the DVI to HDMI cord they provided with the Oppo. Is this a known proble, is there something wrong with my player.

I just got my oppo today and have a problem. My picture on my Sony SXRD is shifted to left. I am using the DVI to HDMI cord they provided with the Oppo. Is this a known proble, is there something wrong with my player.

The search function is your best friend ;) but, to answer your question--yes it's a known problem on some displays with the latest firmware. Roll back to an older firmware release and that will fix the problem. I'm not sure if the new firmware being released within the next week will fix this issue or not, but rolling back to an older release definitely will.

I am getting my OPPO this wek. And the lip synch I would imagine would be one of THE top fixes to focus on. I can imagine the annoyance. Hope it is fixed soon.

I am getting my OPPO this wek. And the lip synch I would imagine would be one of THE top fixes to focus on. I can imagine the annoyance. Hope it is fixed soon.

Lip sync on the newer beta 0126 firmware seems to be working great on setting 9 or 90ms. Haven't experience off lip sync since the update. Was just watching Star Wars III, and the guest kept fast forwarding to the battles scenes without any lip sync issues. I was surprised, since SW III disc I owned was one of the worst disc that had the noticeable lip sync issue and usually get worse when fast forward scenes.

The search function is your best friend ;) but, to answer your question--yes it's a known problem on some displays with the latest firmware. Roll back to an older firmware release and that will fix the problem. I'm not sure if the new firmware being released within the next week will fix this issue or not, but rolling back to an older release definitely will.

I looked at my version and it is the most recent one. It was already installed. How do I roll back?

I looked at my version and it is the most recent one. It was already installed. How do I roll back?

http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_1022_download.html

I looked at my version and it is the most recent one. It was already installed. How do I roll back?

Your best bet is to e-mail Oppo support and ask them to send you older firmware because you are having the shift issue. They should send you a reply rather quickly, even on a Sunday. There are detailed instructions on how to change the player's firmware on Oppo's support page. It's a pretty simple process.

Any luck with DL blanks being playable? I'm still waiting for confirmation that people have had no problems to dump my Malata.

Any luck with DL blanks being playable? I'm still waiting for confirmation that people have had no problems to dump my Malata.

No problems with my Verbatim DL +R media. More factors to take into consideration though, type of media, brand/manufacturer of media, quality of burner, and burn speed etc....

I looked at my version and it is the most recent one. It was already installed. How do I roll back?

Oppo is excellent with quick response, but you can still download older versions without waiting for them to send you something. Go to the Oppo download page and then change the date in the url to the version you want. They are still out there for download, the support site just doesn't have a link to them. For example, change the 1111 in the url to 1022 for the October version.

No problems with my Verbatim DL +R media. More factors to take into consideration though, type of media, brand/manufacturer of media, quality of burner, and burn speed etc....

I only use Verbatim. What are the chances that if I get it and it doesn't work that I could return it. I have too many of them at this point to not be able to play them.

I only use Verbatim. What are the chances that if I get it and it doesn't work that I could return it. I have too many of them at this point to not be able to play them.

Oppo has a 30-day money back policy. I'm willing to bet that Oppo would be happy to take a sample disc from you to test it on a player to check compatibility.

Oppo has a 30-day money back policy. I'm willing to bet that Oppo would be happy to take a sample disc from you to test it on a player to check compatibility.

I don't know how thrilled I would be about sending some random company a DVD of mine to see if it works on one of their machines. :)

I've written 4 or 5 memorex DL discs and they've all worked flawlessly.

I don't know how thrilled I would be about sending some random company a DVD of mine to see if it works on one of their machines. :)

Why not email them and ask...This isn't a ripoff company. ask if they;ll test it and return it. My experieince has been pretty good wioth OPPO support.

I'd email them and ask if I were you.

I sent them half dozen DVD's last summer that I had recorded. I havent gotten them back yet, but I checked with them about a month agao, and they said they haven't solved the problem yet.

As long as they are working on a solution, they are welcome to keep the DVD's until they solve it.

Rick

I only use Verbatim. What are the chances that if I get it and it doesn't work that I could return it. I have too many of them at this point to not be able to play them.

I use Verbatim, Memorex, and Staples brand with the Oppo and have not had any problems with any of them.

Why not email them and ask...This isn't a ripoff company. ask if they;ll test it and return it. My experieince has been pretty good wioth OPPO support.

I'd email them and ask if I were you.

I sent them half dozen DVD's last summer that I had recorded. I havent gotten them back yet, but I checked with them about a month agao, and they said they haven't solved the problem yet.

As long as they are working on a solution, they are welcome to keep the DVD's until they solve it.

Rick

OPPO has many discs around their office that they use for testing from end users. Most are Stand Alone DVD-R discs, others include Multi-Session discs, DVD-R media, as well as some UDF discs. Most discs are sent back if they can't find a problem, or if they isolated the problem, whereas others are kept to retry every once and a while when a firmware has been released, or an engineer wants to test the latest compatability build.

If you ever send in a disc, just make sure that you tell them if you need it back or not. If you need it back, they will send it back after using it for testing purposes.

Is anyone using the Oppo with a Sony Bravia 32" or 40"? Any comments about PQ with this combination?

I saw one post in a different thread about this combo. He mentioned macroblocking and moved on. I'll try to find a link...

George

Noticed in the latest issue of Wired Magazine that there was an article comparing HD displays and that they mention using the Oppo as their reference DVD player to test the various models.

Anyone know if OPPO's next player will have SACD?

This thread is second in the amount of replies, very close to taking the top spot from the Kenwood thread!!

Anyone know if OPPO's next player will have SACD?

The 970 will have SACD. The upcoming successor to the OPDV971H will likely support SACD as well.

The 970 will have SACD. The upcoming successor to the OPDV971H will likely support SACD as well.

hi there,

so are we expecting 2 new models from Oppodigital this year?

Hi,

It's my understanding that the OPPO player comes with a DVI to DVI cable. My plasma has only the HDMI input. I will have to purchase a DVI to HDMI cable, correct? As seen in this image. Any advance to pass on to a newbie to the OPPO player?

http://www.ramelectronics.net/assets/images/DVI/new-DVI-HDMI_s.jpg

Hi,

It's my understanding that the OPPO player comes with a DVI to DVI cable. My plasma has only the HDMI input. I will have to purchase a DVI to HDMI cable, correct? As seen in this image. Any advance to pass on to a newbie to the OPPO player?

http://www.ramelectronics.net/assets/images/DVI/new-DVI-HDMI_s.jpg

I understand if you order from OPPO direct they give you both DVI to DVI and a DVI to HDMI cable, YOu might also check wahat Surf Audio gives you.

RIck

I got mine from OPPO about 3 weeks ago. It came with both DVI-DVI and the DVI-HDMI. Very nice of them.

i really don't want to read all 199 pages, but when i first hooked up my Oppo to my 42" Panny EDTV (DVI set to 720p), why did the the initial picture looks so noisy with "blocky" dark scenes. BUT, after i calibrated it with my AVIA, the noise and blockiness went away...

why is that?

Hi,

It's my understanding that the OPPO player comes with a DVI to DVI cable. My plasma has only the HDMI input. I will have to purchase a DVI to HDMI cable, correct? As seen in this image. Any advance to pass on to a newbie to the OPPO player?

http://www.ramelectronics.net/assets/images/DVI/new-DVI-HDMI_s.jpg

I think the current models of oppo provide both cables. However, the length is about 5' or 6'.

Quick question - I returned from about a week overseas, and suddenly I am getting sound but no picture through the DVI output (through HDMI). The S-Video output appears to be working correctly.

Is there some obvious reset or button press fix I am missing here, or does the machine need to go back for service?

hi there,

so are we expecting 2 new models from Oppodigital this year?

Yes, there are two units. The first unit (970H) will be out in April, and the successor unit is looking like Summer.

Quick question - I returned from about a week overseas, and suddenly I am getting sound but no picture through the DVI output (through HDMI). The S-Video output appears to be working correctly.

Is there some obvious reset or button press fix I am missing here, or does the machine need to go back for service?

Try changing the DVI modes to ensure that you unit has not slipped into a mode which is not supported by your display device. To do so, please stop all disc playback (or press Eject) and press the DVI button until a picture resolves. Or, when using the S-Video input, keep hitting DVI until you find the mode which suits you best.

i really don't want to read all 199 pages, but when i first hooked up my Oppo to my 42" Panny EDTV (DVI set to 720p), why did the the initial picture looks so noisy with "blocky" dark scenes. BUT, after i calibrated it with my AVIA, the noise and blockiness went away...

why is that?

Every input device has different output characteristics. A calibration that works for one content device, will look horrible on another. This is why we always advacte a complete re-calibration of your display device everytime you plug in a new device.

Try changing the DVI modes to ensure that you unit has not slipped into a mode which is not supported by your display device. To do so, please stop all disc playback (or press Eject) and press the DVI button until a picture resolves. Or, when using the S-Video input, keep hitting DVI until you find the mode which suits you best.

Already had tried that with no luck, but appreciate the suggestion!

Quick question - I returned from about a week overseas, and suddenly I am getting sound but no picture through the DVI output (through HDMI). The S-Video output appears to be working correctly.

Is there some obvious reset or button press fix I am missing here, or does the machine need to go back for service?

Boring I know, but you might want to check for a loose connection.

Steve.

Quick question - I returned from about a week overseas, and suddenly I am getting sound but no picture through the DVI output (through HDMI). The S-Video output appears to be working correctly.

Is there some obvious reset or button press fix I am missing here, or does the machine need to go back for service?

Is the DVI permenently out?....

I'm currently in process of trouble shooting odd DVI behavior. Since I've played with so much settings, I'm not quite sure how it started. For first three months, I wasn't experiencing anything like this, but it started few weeks ago. I first thought it was the beta firmware, but this is something I'll try out rolling back to 1022 after my currents settings fail. Since the DVI mis-sync doesn't happen all the time or reproducible, it's hard to pin point when it will happen again.

When DVI goes out, one thing you can try to revive it back is press "stop", then flip through DVI buttons. Sometimes this doesn't work and you need to turn off the oppo and turn it back on. One symptom I observed was that when the DVI goes dead or go out of sync, the sound halts for a second as well. I remembered changing the LPCM to 192K which did work, but I doubt my HD receiver handles it since it's two generations old. So, currently I have the LCPM to 48K (default) and also using another DVI cable. If this fails, then I'll roll back to 1022 and see if this fixes things.... I've observed this issue since 1224b fimware and still happens with 0220.

I've exhanged emails with Oppo Tech Support and they've offered to send me a replacement, but I wanted to make sure the unit is faulty before exhanging it. So far, DVI hasn't gone out of sync for about 3 days..... and counting.

It appears permanently out, and I've already checked the connection and flipped through DVI modes with the machine stopped. Also tried in a different HDMI port on my monitor.

I'll try emailing Oppo. Thanks for the input!

Can I roll back to the previous firmware? Just get my old flash disc with 1111b and put in drive to roll it back?

I'm having choppy playback on mpeg and avi's...............I just thought this was an issue with DivX files...........

Can I roll back to the previous firmware? Just get my old flash disc with 1111b and put in drive to roll it back?

I'm having choppy playback on mpeg and avi's...............I just thought this was an issue with DivX files...........

You sure can rollback to a previous firmware.

Can I roll back to the previous firmware? Just get my old flash disc with 1111b and put in drive to roll it back?

I'm having choppy playback on mpeg and avi's...............I just thought this was an issue with DivX files...........

There is no problem rolling back to the previous firmware. I would recommend that you use the 0228 firmware as an alternative to the 1111B firmware, as it still has the PAL fixes.

The 0228 firmware can be accessed here: http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_0228_download.html

Note: This release is not an official release but an interim solution to address the DivX/MPEG-2 playback issue of the F-0220. It does not include the improvement to audio/video synchronization found in the official F-0220 release. Please do not use this version if you are not experiencing DivX/MPEG-2 playback issues, as it will negate the audio/video syncronization improvements integrated into the F-0220 firmware.

Did anyone see the mini review of the Oppo in the latest issue of The Perfect Vision(they reviewed several DVD players from budget to high end)? The guy tested the machine through component(!), said that the DVI picture was terrible compared to component(!!), and seemed to think the best thing about the player was the audio! I don't have the mag in front of me so I can't quote exactly what he said, but I was really shocked by this reviewers comments.

Did anyone see the mini review of the Oppo in the latest issue of The Perfect Vision(they reviewed several DVD players from budget to high end)? The guy tested the machine through component(!), said that the DVI picture was terrible compared to component(!!), and seemed to think the best thing about the player was the audio! I don't have the mag in front of me so I can't quote exactly what he said, but I was really shocked by this reviewers comments.

Lots of bad information it seems in that article. The article is being discussed in this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=650231

Thanks for the link.

Did anyone see the mini review of the Oppo in the latest issue of The Perfect Vision(they reviewed several DVD players from budget to high end)? The guy tested the machine through component(!), said that the DVI picture was terrible compared to component(!!), and seemed to think the best thing about the player was the audio! I don't have the mag in front of me so I can't quote exactly what he said, but I was really shocked by this reviewers comments.

I read on the other thread what they were saying and boy... how can he even be considered a reviewer?

I have this dvdplayer (oppo) and its connected to my Sony KDF-E42A10 and as soon as I got the player, I tested out the DVI-HDMI thing with a couple of friends present and we could all see the difference when going up to 720p via DVI-HDMI instead of 480 over component.

I asked this in the BRAIN DUMP I guess wrong thread. It's no big deal but I was wondering out of curiosity if anyone tried playing original Dr. No & Goldfinger dvd's. The one's with WIDESCREEN (ENHANCED) and PAN & SCAN on the same side. There's later one's with WIDESCREEN only.

The disc's start fine play WARNING, THX, MGM intro. but when Menu starts both freeze and wont play. These are only dvd's that have not played my OPPO.

Mark

I asked this in the BRAIN DUMP I guess wrong thread. It's no big deal but I was wondering out of curiosity if anyone tried playing original Dr. No & Goldfinger dvd's. The one's with WIDESCREEN (ENHANCED) and PAN & SCAN on the same side. There's later one's with WIDESCREEN only.

The disc's start fine play WARNING, THX, MGM intro. but when Menu starts both freeze and wont play. These are only dvd's that have not played my OPPO.

Mark

NEVER MIND, its not the OPPO just tried playing them on my computer and it does same thing. Some LASER DISC'S used to get LASER ROT seams the same kind of thing.

Mark

NEVER MIND, its not the OPPO just tried playing them on my computer and it does same thing. Some LASER DISC'S used to get LASER ROT seams the same kind of thing.

Mark

Are they early Universal DVDs? I had heard they had some problems. I didn't believe it and started checking my collection. I found totally defective copies of The Apostle, Vertigo, Apollo 13, Sixteen Candles, and the Breakfast Club. The first three would not play at all on any player or in any DVD drive and the last two title's symptoms are remarkably similar to laserdisc rot...with which I am all too familiar...:mad:

I have a bad copy of New Line's first version of Boogie Night that also will not play in anything.

-Toonces

Are they early Universal DVDs? I had heard they had some problems. I didn't believe it and started checking my collection. I found totally defective copies of The Apostle, Vertigo, Apollo 13, Sixteen Candles, and the Breakfast Club. The first three would not play at all on any player or in any DVD drive and the last two title's symptoms are remarkably similar to laserdisc rot...with which I am all too familiar...:mad:

I have a bad copy of New Line's first version of Boogie Night that also will not play in anything.

-Toonces

No Toonces, there 1st releases of James Bond on MGM.I also have VERTIGO I guess I should look at it. Yea I'm familiar with LASER ROT too SIMON & GARFUNKEL'S CONCERT IN CENTRAL PARK ,TROPICAL SNOW and a few others.

Mark

Bummer. Nothing lasts forever, it seems.

Anyone know if OPPO's next DVD player will have SACD capability? I'd be glad to send the 971H to another room for an OPPO with SACD. By the way, I'm gettin' tired of not being able to skip back to the beginning of a track. Can't they fix that little glitch?

I asked this in the BRAIN DUMP I guess wrong thread. It's no big deal but I was wondering out of curiosity if anyone tried playing original Dr. No & Goldfinger dvd's. The one's with WIDESCREEN (ENHANCED) and PAN & SCAN on the same side. There's later one's with WIDESCREEN only.

The disc's start fine play WARNING, THX, MGM intro. but when Menu starts both freeze and wont play. These are only dvd's that have not played my OPPO.

Mark

I have both the exact DVD's you mentioned and both play fine on my Oppo- no freeze up. Have you tried cleaning the discs?....I've had other discs freeze up and once I clean them they are fine....I use a small micrfibre cloth and a small amount of Isopropyl Alcohol- starting at the center of the disc and wiping out in a straight line towards the edge of the disc, repeating 3-4 times until total area of disc is cleaned.

Are they early Universal DVDs? I had heard they had some problems. I didn't believe it and started checking my collection. I found totally defective copies of The Apostle, Vertigo, Apollo 13, Sixteen Candles, and the Breakfast Club. The first three would not play at all on any player or in any DVD drive and the last two title's symptoms are remarkably similar to laserdisc rot...with which I am all too familiar...:mad:

I have a bad copy of New Line's first version of Boogie Night that also will not play in anything.

-Toonces

Have you tried cleaning the discs as I mentioned above?...Universal is very good about replacing faulty discs- I returned Jurassic Park as it had a problem with the bass and New Line are also sympathetic towards customers with bad discs...as far as Boogie Nights goes though, I'd recommend you step up to the 2 disc Platinum Series set- slightly improved picture quality- I picked it up a few months back on Amazon I think for only $12.99!

Anyone know if OPPO's next DVD player will have SACD capability? I'd be glad to send the 971H to another room for an OPPO with SACD. By the way, I'm gettin' tired of not being able to skip back to the beginning of a track. Can't they fix that little glitch?

I'd hold off for a one of the 2 upcoming High Def format players- I recently saw a demo of HD-DVD at one of the Toshiba roadshows and the picture quality is amazing!!! Buy then again, I don't know how these players will handle regular DVD's- maybe not as good as the Oppo?

hsinnot, wouldn't it be nice if the new format DVD players all actually equalled the PQ of the best standard DVD players, (like the OPPO, Denon 3910, etc.) besides the HD capability? I assume Sony will include SACD in their Blu-Ray players,, (not that they truly care about SACD anymore!)

hsinnot, wouldn't it be nice if the new format DVD players all actually equalled the PQ of the best standard DVD players, (like the OPPO, Denon 3910, etc.) besides the HD capability? I assume Sony will include SACD in their Blu-Ray players,, (not that they truly care about SACD anymore!)

Yes, it would be great it they could equal the PQ of the Oppo- do you think they can exceed it? We'll have to wait and see...I'd be happy if the standard DVD quality was equal to the performance of the Oppo, with the various bugs worked out...for example, no lip synch issues (audio/video delay), shimmering, player occasional not seeing disc in transport etc etc...and most of all, if the next gen HiDef DVD players could stretch 'non-anamorphic' discs it would be great- for me, thats the biggest weakness of the Oppo- right now I have a Zenith DVB318 also connected to my TV specifically for 'non-anamorphic' discs. I'm running out of inputs on my tv!

Hi, I believe it was suggested that I post my problem in one of the Oppo expert forums :). I'm having three problems with my Oppo and I would like suggestions on how to calibrate the oppo/philips 42pf7220a set (I have already calibrated the set with AVIA whilst having trule life, ccs, noise reduction etc. off and everything else zeroed). For one, I feel that the picture is grainy, the picture is not smooth and life like. Two, I see hints of a purple/pink tinge in highlight areas, i.e. light reflecting off of a persons face or clothes. Lastly, I am seeing macro-blocking on out of focus walls behind the main subject. I appreciate any of your help to solve my three problems, thanks.

Hi, I believe it was suggested that I post my problem in one of the Oppo expert forums :). I'm having three problems with my Oppo and I would like suggestions on how to calibrate the oppo/philips 42pf7220a set (I have already calibrated the set with AVIA whilst having trule life, ccs, noise reduction etc. off and everything else zeroed). For one, I feel that the picture is grainy, the picture is not smooth and life like. Two, I see hints of a purple/pink tinge in highlight areas, i.e. light reflecting off of a persons face or clothes. Lastly, I am seeing macro-blocking on out of focus walls behind the main subject. I appreciate any of your help to solve my three problems, thanks.

If you're using a pure digital DVI connection from the Oppo to the Philips the picture should be smooth...a friend of mine uses Component cables and it causes a lot of grain. The macro-blocking is a problem discussed extensively on this or the other Oppo thread- I have a Samsung DLP and rarely notice it but I do believe its caused by the Oppo- not the display.
Finally, the purple/pink tinge is probably a problem on your Philips- search AVS forum for your particular Philips set and see if you find an answer there- I had a problem with Greens on my Samsung and found on the Samsung thread how to go into the service menu and change gamma (green) setting...just an idea.

When is the new model coming out ?

Hi, I believe it was suggested that I post my problem in one of the Oppo expert forums :). I'm having three problems with my Oppo and I would like suggestions on how to calibrate the oppo/philips 42pf7220a set (I have already calibrated the set with AVIA whilst having trule life, ccs, noise reduction etc. off and everything else zeroed). For one, I feel that the picture is grainy, the picture is not smooth and life like. Two, I see hints of a purple/pink tinge in highlight areas, i.e. light reflecting off of a persons face or clothes. Lastly, I am seeing macro-blocking on out of focus walls behind the main subject. I appreciate any of your help to solve my three problems, thanks.Guys, we have migrated to the OPPO FAQ thread to avoid confusion and double-posting.

Lorkp, please see my reply here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7332563&&#post7332563).

Ugh, my Oppo seems to be on its deathbed. All I seem to get now is 'No Disc' errors, and only occasionally can I get something to actually play. And half the time, it will just freeze up at some random point.

Is there anything I can do to save it? :( I need it to last me until I can get my hands on a Toshiba HD-A1 here in Canada (probably not until May).

Anyone know if OPPO's next DVD player will have SACD capability? I'd be glad to send the 971H to another room for an OPPO with SACD. By the way, I'm gettin' tired of not being able to skip back to the beginning of a track. Can't they fix that little glitch?

Yes, SACD support will be added in the new model.

And the skip back error was fixed in the F-0220 firmware.

When is the new model coming out ?

Replacement is scheduled for this summer, the 970HD (non-Faroudja) has been reported as coming out late April.

Hello everyone,

I have lots of tearing in 720p mode with my oppo on my Hitashi TX200 Projector...

- I have the last oppo firmware installed (tried several ones, including BBKs ones)
- PAL DVD with oppo set to PAL and truelife off, video 2 mode
- TX200 give me correct info (720p - 50Hz)

no problem at all in 1080i mode.

Does someone have this problem ?
Does it come from the oppo (firmware ?) or maybe the TX200 ?

Thanks for any possible help.

Ugh, my Oppo seems to be on its deathbed. All I seem to get now is 'No Disc' errors, and only occasionally can I get something to actually play. And half the time, it will just freeze up at some random point.

Is there anything I can do to save it? :( I need it to last me until I can get my hands on a Toshiba HD-A1 here in Canada (probably not until May).
Unplug it from the AC for about 15 minutes and it will probably be fine. Once you get the logic messed up all types of products can have those kinds of intermittent errors. I had no display and the drawer wouldn't open. The tip above reset it and it's fine now.

M./

Just started using the OPPO and have it hooked up to a Sony 40" HI-DEF CRT. Tried to use it on my 36" Sony HI-DEF CRT which has an HDMI input as opposed to the DVI input on the 40" Sony. Experienced terrible jittering when playing a full screen DVD and switched cables and still had the jitters. Contacted OPPO and they said that was relatively normal when using an HDMI input. Personally, I think HDMI output devices are a waste of money. DVI works much better. Just my opinion.

Just started using the OPPO and have it hooked up to a Sony 40" HI-DEF CRT. Tried to use it on my 36" Sony HI-DEF CRT which has an HDMI input as opposed to the DVI input on the 40" Sony. Experienced terrible jittering when playing a full screen DVD and switched cables and still had the jitters. Contacted OPPO and they said that was relatively normal when using an HDMI input. Personally, I think HDMI output devices are a waste of money. DVI works much better. Just my opinion.

Please see the following post about the Service Menu fix for the 480p jitter on Sony SRT displays: 480p Service Menu Fix (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6479534&highlight=Service+Menu+Sony#post6479524)

Hello everyone,

I have lots of tearing in 720p mode with my oppo on my Hitashi TX200 Projector...

- I have the last oppo firmware installed (tried several ones, including BBKs ones)
- PAL DVD with oppo set to PAL and truelife off, video 2 mode
- TX200 give me correct info (720p - 50Hz)

no problem at all in 1080i mode.

Does someone have this problem ?
Does it come from the oppo (firmware ?) or maybe the TX200 ?

Thanks for any possible help.

You may want to bring this up on the OPPO OPDV971H FAQ/Brain Dump (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=491306)

Quoting Neuromancer : Replacement is scheduled for this summer, the 970HD (non-Faroudja) has been reported as coming out late April.
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Oh, oh, isn't the Faroudja processing one of the main selling points of the OPPO? I use the DVI out to my InFocus 4805 which also has Faroudja processing, but only on the component inputs as far as I know. I've been under the impression that the OPPO sends a Faroudja processed 480p signal directly to my pj, bypassing any processing in the projector. Am I wrong?

Oh, oh, isn't the Faroudja processing one of the main selling points of the OPPO? I use the DVI out to my InFocus 4805 which also has Faroudja processing, but only on the component inputs as far as I know. I've been under the impression that the OPPO sends a Faroudja processed 480p signal directly to my pj, bypassing any processing in the projector. Am I wrong?

You're right when it comes to the deinterlacing. However, the 4805 has a native resolution of 854x480, so no matter which output resolution you use on the Oppo your projector is still re-scaling it to 854x480.

Martin,
Josh is correct. The Oppo will only be sending 480p (720x480) to the 4805. The 4805 will still need to scale it horizontally to 854x480 (scaling here also done by Faroudja, Oppo, where's the pixel mapping support?).

I second Josh. No matter what signal is sent to the InFocus, the InFocus will scale to the projector's native resolution. Scaling and deinterlacing are two different topics.

Paul

Thanks guys. Let me see if I'm clear on this, the 720 X 480 out from the OPPO is digital and then the projector rescales it to 854 X 480, so there's only one D to A conversion. Why does it matter if there's Faroudja processing in the OPPO if the pj takes the digital signal and scales it, unless there's a difference in different brand's digital (DVI) outs?

*thanks APranger.

Thanks guys. Let me see if I'm clear on this, the 720 X 480 out from the OPPO is digital and then the projector rescales it to 854 X 480, so there's only one D to A conversion. Why does it matter if there's Faroudja processing in the OPPO if the pj takes the digital signal and scales it? Unless there's a difference in different brand's digital (DVI) outs.

Actually, there is no digital to analog conversion. You still need faroudja on the oppo to deinterlace.

Maybe players like the momitsu and bravo are known for their great detail and good scaling (just not as good deinterlacing) just can't be matched by the mediatek and faroudja combination when it comes to clarity on the 4805. Sigma chips have a great mpeg decoder.

Not all Faroudja processing is implemented alike.

Not all projectors or displays utilize Faroudja processing.

Scaling and deinterlacing are differnent topics. The Faroudja will smooth out diagonal lines, provide motion adaptive corrections, implement 3:2 pulldown, etc. -- none of this is scaling. The InFocus will take this deinterlaced signal -- whether it be 480p, 720p, or 1080i and then scale (not deinterlace) it to 854x480 for the projector's resolution. Usually, the closest *scaling* "fit" results in the best picture.

480i via component would be a possibility to let the display/projector do the deinterlacing and scaling, however, the 480i component from the Oppo is not of the highest quality and can't be adjusted at the player.

Paul

Thanks again guys, I'm beginnning to get it. Both my 4805 and the OPPO have Faroudja processing. From the OPPO's DVI out, the deinterlacing is done and the pj simply scales it. Even though my 4805 has Faroudja deinterlacing, the component outs from the OPPO are in such bad shape that even the mighty Faroudja can only do so much. If the OPPO had Faroudja deinterlacing on the component outs I could then compare the OPPO's deinterlacing to the InFocus, but as OPPO has implemented the Faroudja, DVI is the only way to go. Correct?

If the OPPO had Faroudja deinterlacing on the component outs I could then compare the OPPO's deinterlacing to the InFocus, but as OPPO has implemented the Faroudja, DVI is the only way to go. Correct?

NOPE

Actually you are now in a perfect position to compare the processing of the Oppo versus your projector.

Simply feed the projector the 480i component out from your Oppo and compare it to the 720p DVI out from the Oppo.

The projector will de-interlace and scale the 480i as needed.

With the 720p output from the Oppo the projector will only do the scaling as the signal is already progressive.....( I would also try the 480p and 1080i and see which looks best to your eyes)

The Faroudja chip in the Oppo is physically located on the DVI output board so only the DVI-OUT receives the benefit from the chip. I have never heard anyone that was thrilled with the Oppo's 480i out as none of us bought them for that particular output.

You could search for a player that is known for having an excellent 480i output and then connect it via component and compare that to the DVI output from your Oppo. That might give you a better comparison..., but it also means you have to buy/borrow another DVD player... :eek: