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insidious66 02-02-09, 03:02 PM I didn't see this thread and posted this in the General Questions thread instead. Seems it'd fit better here:
So I've got a problem with my hlp4663. Yesterday I turned it on and instantly heard this buzzing rattling sound and then a loud pop from the back of the tv, and it died. All I can get now is a blank screen and three blinking lights on the front. I've tried hard resets, but the tv still refuses to turn on. I'm thinking it might be a bad color wheel? What do you think? It's about 2 years old, by the way.
edit: Didn't see a few posts up, either. The sounds you described sound just like what happened with mine, except I'm afraid the color wheel might have shattered. I'll have to open it up later and check it out.
insidious66 02-02-09, 10:55 PM Ok, so I opened 'er up and found shattered pieces of the color wheel inside its housing :(
Ordered another one from partstore.com (# BP96-00674A ?). Now to play the waiting game...
Anyone know if I need to change anything in the SM for the new color wheel? And if so, what are those values?
dengland 02-03-09, 10:19 PM You may or may not need to pull a jumper off. There should be some info earlier in the thread. I think I posted a picture of the jumper last year sometime.
Also - any suggestions on where to buy the new lamp? I've read some people had a good experience with Laptops for Less.
Thanks
I just bought my new lamp from here:
http://www.dlplampxpress.com/Samsung_BP96_00608A_Lamp_p/bp96-00608a.htm
and I paid $130. I thought that was a pretty good price.
Regards,
Monte
acillatem 02-21-09, 09:54 PM Hope someone can give me a little feedback on an issue I'm starting to have with my HLP5063 that I bought in '04.....in the last couple weeks, and the last time being a few hour ago, while watching tv, out of nowhere comes this loud rattling/buzzer type sound from the back of the tv. I jumped up and walked over, and listened a little closer in the hopes of having some idea what it might be, so I can maybe tell the repair person the extended warranty company will send. The person that posted in post # 991 described a loud rattling noise that sounded like a card in a bicycle wheel, and that would be a pretty accurate description of this sound also, but with mine it has happened 3 times in the last couple weeks, just while the tv is on, and it stops on it's own, today being the longest.......maybe 15 seconds. There is no chnage in the picture while it is making the sound either, so if anyone has any idea what it most likely is, I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks in advance!
dengland 02-21-09, 10:34 PM Color wheel....It will get worse!
acillatem 02-22-09, 12:40 AM Color wheel....It will get worse!
Thanks!That was my first thought as well, but my noise is happening at a different than the person that posted a few posts back, but I'm assuming they can start making this sound I'm hearing at random, yes?
dengland 02-22-09, 09:34 AM Thanks!That was my first thought as well, but my noise is happening at a different than the person that posted a few posts back, but I'm assuming they can start making this sound I'm hearing at random, yes?
I won't claim to be an expert. There are 2 moving parts in there, the color wheel and the fan. My noise from the color wheel started when it was spinning up and spinning down. Ultimately, it was there all the time. I would think it is reasonable if a bearing in the fan was going, it could come and go. Your Milage May Vary!
I would watch it for awhile to see if it gets worse. The worst case with waiting should just be the color wheel flys apart and you have no TV while you are waiting on the repairman with the part.
acillatem 02-22-09, 03:54 PM I won't claim to be an expert. There are 2 moving parts in there, the color wheel and the fan. My noise from the color wheel started when it was spinning up and spinning down. Ultimately, it was there all the time. I would think it is reasonable if a bearing in the fan was going, it could come and go. Your Milage May Vary!
I would watch it for awhile to see if it gets worse. The worst case with waiting should just be the color wheel flys apart and you have no TV while you are waiting on the repairman with the part.
Thanks again! Yes, I agree......I'm going to call my extended warranty company today and make a claim. It expires in november, so don't want to wait. Was yours the newer air bearing type? I know mine is, but obviously there still has to be some type of bearing in a moving wheel like that.It made the noise again very briefly just a while ago. Like you siad, it can only come from one of the two moving parts.
acillatem 02-23-09, 02:31 AM Tonight the tv just shut off by itself........don't know if that has any relation to the intermittent noise I've been getting. I turned it right back on with the remote, but seems odd that it happened tonight,AND that we've getting this weird buzzing noise. Maybe a weird coincidence, but thought I'd mention it here. I called my warranty company earlier and described the noise, and they said the policy doesn't cover noises unless it becomes continuous, or there is a picture problem along with it. If is intermittent, they won't send someone out.Seems weird, but I understand their stand on it. I can't complain about this extended warranty company, because they sent someone out a couple years ago to replace the light engine, and they just replaced the bulb, so I'll just have to wait until the problem gets worse, I guess. I'll call and tell them that the tv turned off, and see if that warrants a service call.
cavemaster 02-24-09, 11:26 AM I've recently abandon cable and now get all of my HDTV signal via OTA. While I know that I can buy an external tuner unit for $160 or so, I'm curious if the board containing the ATSC tuner could be swapped out for a later HLPxxxx model that had a ATSC tuner without completely rebuildind the set.
dengland 02-26-09, 08:10 PM Tonight the tv just shut off by itself........don't know if that has any relation to the intermittent noise I've been getting. I turned it right back on with the remote, but seems odd that it happened tonight,AND that we've getting this weird buzzing noise. Maybe a weird coincidence, but thought I'd mention it here. I called my warranty company earlier and described the noise, and they said the policy doesn't cover noises unless it becomes continuous, or there is a picture problem along with it. If is intermittent, they won't send someone out.Seems weird, but I understand their stand on it. I can't complain about this extended warranty company, because they sent someone out a couple years ago to replace the light engine, and they just replaced the bulb, so I'll just have to wait until the problem gets worse, I guess. I'll call and tell them that the tv turned off, and see if that warrants a service call.
I had sold my 5663 to my next door neighboor about 6 months after replacing the color wheel. A couple of weeks after that she started having a problem with the TV not powering up (It would start turning on and then turn itself off) After much troubleshooting I traced it down to the color wheel. I put the old noisey one back in and the TV would turn on.
So, there is some feedback from the color wheel to the control board. In my mind it is possible that your CW could be causing your shut off problem.
You are probably stuck waiting until something fails a little harder ...
BigEHokie 02-28-09, 01:02 AM I've posted a few times in this thread about a problem I'd been having, the random auto shutoff. It's so bad I just bought a new TV. My DLP will not stay on longer than 20 to 30 seconds. I've tried all the suggestions I've seen on the internet, outside of calling someone to come service the thing.
I'd like to sell this as I think someone with some electronics knowledge could probably fix it, however I don't want to put money into this thing knowing I'm going to also have to put in money (eventually) for a new light engine and or anything else that requires repair.
So my question is, what do you think is a fair price for this if I try to sell it? Here are the specs on the TV:
1. HLP5063, appearance is mint condition. Only issue is the auto-shutoff, rendering the TV unwatchable as is.
2. Semi new lamp with less than 500 hours on the bulb. Previous lamp with 7000 hours included.
3. Also include a replacement screen (had smudging problem with screen, kept the original as a just in case).
4. Never had anything else replaced on it, beside a lamp. (ballast, light engine, etc...nothing)
I know we're not supposed to talk prices in this forum, however I gotta think asking what people think fair market value of this set is isn't really what they were trying to prohibit when setting up the rule.
Any thoughts?
acillatem 03-09-09, 02:14 AM I had sold my 5663 to my next door neighboor about 6 months after replacing the color wheel. A couple of weeks after that she started having a problem with the TV not powering up (It would start turning on and then turn itself off) After much troubleshooting I traced it down to the color wheel. I put the old noisey one back in and the TV would turn on.
So, there is some feedback from the color wheel to the control board. In my mind it is possible that your CW could be causing your shut off problem.
You are probably stuck waiting until something fails a little harder ...
Yeah, I am afraid so. I talked to the repair shop that would be doing the work, and they suggested being a little more firm about having problems with my tv so they will start a claim, but I have to be careful with that. If I strectch the truth too much to get a claim started, the tech could show up and not be able to diagnose it without actually hearinthe noise. It has made this noise a couple more times since I first posted, but it is still very intermittent. It does sound like a card in a bicycle wheel, hitting the spokes........a buzzing/rattle, if you will. It could also be the cooling fan, since it is the only other moving part in that tv. I doubt the repair shop could justify replacing both if they came out.
dengland 03-09-09, 07:48 PM Keep us posted on how you make out. You can remove the back of the set and determine if it is the fan. That would be easy. CW is kinda buried, so definitively saying it is that is not the CW would be harder.
acillatem 03-10-09, 01:25 AM Keep us posted on how you make out. You can remove the back of the set and determine if it is the fan. That would be easy. CW is kinda buried, so definitively saying it is that is not the CW would be harder.
Yeah, the problem is it is so intermittent right now, but maybe listening closely with the back of the set off will tell me more. I'd like to eliminate one of the two(obviously) so I can justify telling the extended warranty company it is more than intermittent, and get it fixed.
acillatem 03-10-09, 02:40 AM Also noticed there is a fan on the DMD board, in addition to the lamp cooling fan.........I'm thinking that small fan couldn't make that much noise, anyone agree/disagree?
acillatem 03-12-09, 02:08 AM Well, tonight the tv made this same buzzing/rattling noise, but along with it was a bright/yellowish bar that appeared approximately in the vertical middle of the picture that also had a larger square about 1/4 of the way in from the left(facing) side of the tv. It kind of jerked/jumped around in perfect time with the noise, and stopped when the noise stopped. I would assume that would seal the deal as far as to whether or nor it's the color wheel. I don't think the lamp cooling fan would have any affect on the picture, but that's just what I'm assuming. Anyone agree? My extended warranty company finally set up a claim, but because it doesn't do it all the time, there is a slight chance it might get denied. I'm hoping the thing with the picture in conjunction with the noise seals the deal. I'll call the tech in the morning and get his opinion. Just curious what some of you people think.
dengland 03-12-09, 06:28 AM I agree that there is no way the fan can cause that.
You might want to keep your digital camera or camcorder handy. I had a problem with a newer Samsung that I just pointed the camcorder at and let it run. When the problem happened I stopped recording. It was a pain in the butt to have the recorder running, but it was effective. I was able to show the repair guy.
acillatem 03-12-09, 01:10 PM I agree that there is no way the fan can cause that.
You might want to keep your digital camera or camcorder handy. I had a problem with a newer Samsung that I just pointed the camcorder at and let it run. When the problem happened I stopped recording. It was a pain in the butt to have the recorder running, but it was effective. I was able to show the repair guy.
I don't have a camcorder, but keeping the camera on the coffee table is a good idea! Everything so far sure seems to point at the color wheel.
moxbroker 03-12-09, 01:46 PM I recently had the color wheel on my HLP5063w's color wheel replaced and ever since then I've had a problem with color saturation and contrast. I've never had the problems like I'm having now and I've had the tv since sept 2004. I can't get dark scenes and light scenes to have comprable if not equal pq. I keep having to change contrast and brightness to get artifacts out of the picture. Its particularly bad in with darker clothing and shadows(almost looks like cell animation). Can the color wheel have an effect on this type of thing? Or is it possible the repair tech messed something up? I've read some stuff about SM settings anyone know where I can get info on CW tuning?
Spanishfry 03-16-09, 01:47 PM Does anyone have the proper replacement part for the Color Wheel in the HLP-5063?
I ordered the BP96-00674A and that is incorrect because it is the "air suspension" type. I need the ball bearing type. I have the original housing, but in researching am unclear if I can reuse that because newer color wheels supposedly have their torx screw holes 2mm off. If someone can give me the correct pn I can proceed with replacement.
oh yeah,
Background: My HLP5063 is currently displaying picture across all inputs in a green tint.
dengland 03-16-09, 06:02 PM I recently had the color wheel on my HLP5063w's color wheel replaced and ever since then I've had a problem with color saturation and contrast. I've never had the problems like I'm having now and I've had the tv since sept 2004. I can't get dark scenes and light scenes to have comprable if not equal pq. I keep having to change contrast and brightness to get artifacts out of the picture. Its particularly bad in with darker clothing and shadows(almost looks like cell animation). Can the color wheel have an effect on this type of thing? Or is it possible the repair tech messed something up? I've read some stuff about SM settings anyone know where I can get info on CW tuning?
Take a look at post 967: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=14608609&postcount=967
Since your colors are not messed up, I would lean towards the index delay setting.
dengland 03-16-09, 06:12 PM Does anyone have the proper replacement part for the Color Wheel in the HLP-5063?
I ordered the BP96-00674A and that is incorrect because it is the "air suspension" type. I need the ball bearing type. I have the original housing, but in researching am unclear if I can reuse that because newer color wheels supposedly have their torx screw holes 2mm off. If someone can give me the correct pn I can proceed with replacement.
oh yeah,
Background: My HLP5063 is currently displaying picture across all inputs in a green tint.
That is the same CW I used in my HLP5663 back in the day ....
Follow the link to message 967 I posted above. You need to mess with the CW type jumper. If it is on, take it off. If it is off, put one on. You may also need to set the index delay.
Spanishfry 03-16-09, 10:36 PM That is the same CW I used in my HLP5663 back in the day ....
Follow the link to message 967 I posted above. You need to mess with the CW type jumper. If it is on, take it off. If it is off, put one on. You may also need to set the index delay.
yes, i noticed the jumper in the back as you mentioned. the problem is the cw does not physically fit in the housing. i read where i need a different pn entirely to fit the housing and match the torx screws.
dengland 03-16-09, 11:03 PM yes, i noticed the jumper in the back as you mentioned. the problem is the cw does not physically fit in the housing. i read where i need a different pn entirely to fit the housing and match the torx screws.
Did it not come as a complete assembly like this:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7602/colorwheel.jpg
Spanishfry 03-16-09, 11:12 PM Did it not come as a complete assembly like this:
i wish. here is the cw i ordered (left) vs. the old busted vw (right).
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss61/isdstiger/IMG_0767.jpg
the good news is i think i found the correct replacement.
http://www.discount-merchant.com/product-p/samsung_bp96-00674a_colorwheel.htm
Oddly enough, the one i ordered (pci 1/right) and the one referenced in the link (gold) have the same part number, but are definitely different.
dengland 03-17-09, 08:01 PM i wish. here is the cw i ordered (left) vs. the old busted vw (right).
the good news is i think i found the correct replacement.
http://www.discount-merchant.com/product-p/samsung_bp96-00674a_colorwheel.htm
Oddly enough, the one i ordered (pci 1/right) and the one referenced in the link (gold) have the same part number, but are definitely different.
I did not know they sold them that way.
ptmaazx6 03-18-09, 11:02 AM I just want to thank those of you, especially "DENGLAND" who have contributed to this thread. I too have a Samsung DLP HLP5063WX/XAA and changed the color wheel two years ago and have been dealing with the dark shading and green faces since then. I have looked everywhere for this answer and finally googled the right description and found this nugget! The thread (#967) which described adjusting the "Index Delay" in the Service Menu was a God send for me, otherwise I would have had to hire a professional to calibrate my TV. I too used the Jangro site, he really should add this to his instructions or at a minimum let folks know they may require a professional to calibrate their tv after installation. That thread (#967) was exactly what I was looking for and worked like a champ. You guys saved me a ton of $$$ and I am forever grateful. Now, I am considering a professional calibration, but don't trust the local repair techs here in Middle GA or the Best Buy Geeks. Any suggestions?
acillatem 03-18-09, 10:16 PM I just want to thank those of you, especially "DENGLAND" who have contributed to this thread. I too have a Samsung DLP HLP5063WX/XAA and changed the color wheel two years ago and have been dealing with the dark shading and green faces since then. I have looked everywhere for this answer and finally googled the right description and found this nugget! The thread (#967) which described adjusting the "Index Delay" in the Service Menu was a God send for me, otherwise I would have had to hire a professional to calibrate my TV. I too used the Jangro site, he really should add this to his instructions or a a minimum let folks know they may require a professional to calibrate their tv after installation. That thread (#967) was exactly what I was looking for and worked like a champ. You guys saved me a ton of $$$ and I am forever grateful. Now, I am considering a professional calibration, but don't trust the local repair techs here in Middle GA or the Best Buy Geeks. Any suggestions?
I'm wondering If I'm having the same problem you had.........I've been posting in this thread about this rattling/buzzing type noise that did end up in fact being my color wheel going out. Well, made the claim with my extended warranty company, and they sent the tech today to replace it, and everything seemed fine, but watching tv this afternoon and this evening, I'm noticing a lot of weird "blocky" looking stuff on solid colors. It's hard to describe, but I'll try.......let's say someone is wearing a dark solid color shirt, and where the shirt (or jacket) has folds and makes shadows, the shadows turn a different color from the shirt, and it's like a bunch of tiny squares making up these transitions in the color. I know I'm not describing it very good. My wife says it's like when you take a photo and "cartoonize" it with photo editing software. Sometimes there is a mosaic look to someone's shirt. It's worse in dark scenes, but still shows in well-lit scenes that never used to show this. A little while ago I saw this commercial where there were rings around this person's head of different colors. This is something that is obviously related to the changing of the color wheel. Not saying it's intentional. These same people have been to our house several times to service this tv, and we've never had a problem. Even my wife noticed it after I pointed it out repeatedly and got kind of heated about it, and she isn't nearly as critical as I am.
ptmaazx6 03-18-09, 10:50 PM You definately have the same problem as I had. What you describe is the same picture I was seeing. Check thread #967 on this site and this will fix your problem. My DLP looks better than new Good Luck Bro!
dengland 03-18-09, 10:55 PM I just want to thank those of you ...SNIP
Now, I am considering a professional calibration, but don't trust the local repair techs here in Middle GA or the Best Buy Geeks. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the kind words. Glad I had previously worked through something that helped you out now. I have certainly been on the receiving end of getting help from someone else's post.
On the calibration end, I have never had it done. I have read that the guys that work out of the big box stores don't typically don't have the expertise, experience or tools to do a quality
Try looking/posting here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=139
Thanks again for the kind words.
dengland 03-18-09, 11:01 PM You definately have the same problem as I had. What you describe is the same picture I was seeing. Check thread #967 on this site and this will fix your problem. My DLP looks better than new Good Luck Bro!
I think ptmaazx6 is right... It sounds real familiar.
acillatem 03-18-09, 11:08 PM You definately have the same problem as I had. What you describe is the same picture I was seeing. Check thread #967 on this site and this will fix your problem. My DLP looks better than new Good Luck Bro!
After the guy was done, the tv was facing the wall because we had turned it around, and reached around and turned it on. I told him none of my components were hooked up at the time, and he said he just had to see if the color was o.k. on the menu, and that meant he was good to go, otherwise he's have to pull some the jumper off. He said everything was o.k. and after he was done, we still turned the tv around, hooked up my satellite box, turned it on again, and it did seem fine. Of course, some stuff looks o.k., especially if you watch it for 2 minutes when the guy is putting his tools away. When I first saw this mosaic thing, I thought it was just because it was standard definition, and some of the older stuff on during the day can look pretty bad, but then as I started watching for awhile, I knew it wasn't my imagination. There is a show on right now that I watch every night, and it's bad, Sometimes a person's gray jacket will have this green blotches all over it or a blue shirt will have theses purple blotches etc. etc. If definitely happened today. Did you have to pull the jumper off, or just adjust the index delay? That's obviously in the service menu, correct?
acillatem 03-18-09, 11:12 PM I want to try this myself.....worse thing I can do is put it back to where it was and call them and make them come out. I'd love to fix it myself, and then tell them after charging the warranty company $450 plus the color wheel, I actually made the picture look good.
ptmaazx6 03-18-09, 11:36 PM dengland your welcome, as for AC, it might be prudent on your part to have the technician cme back out and if the problem persists, insist on a calibration and don't take no for an answer. Tell him it is requiered whenever a part like a color wheel has been replaced. PV
acillatem 03-18-09, 11:50 PM dengland your welcome, as for AC, it might be prudent on your part to have the technician cme back out and if the problem persists, insist on a calibration and don't take no for an answer. Tell him it is requiered whenever a part like a color wheel has been replaced. PV
Well,I agree, because it did start today, and it will persist, so they are responsible. I have already left a message, and they should be calling in the morning, or I will be calling. They are over an hour away, and I expect the "you didn't say there was a problem when I was here" type response,and that will not sit well, so hopefully they don't go that route. I have been in the service menu before, and I'm pretty saavy with a lot of appliance/electronic repairs, so if this something that can easily be adjusted, and they give me a hard time, can you point me to the instructions you used? If I'm getting this correctly, you simply adjusted the index delay on yours and cleared the problem right up, yes?
ptmaazx6 03-19-09, 01:03 PM I changed my INDEX DELAY and changed my GAMMA setting to 1, most people in these threads have put their GAMMA setting at 0, but it is a preference. Here is how I went into the Service Menu (SM), I began with my television off, in sequential order on my Samsung remote I pressed MUTE-1-8-2-POWER and gave it a few seconds and the SM will came up very shortly after the TV started. From there, using the arrow keys I scrolled down to 1. DDP1011, then using the right arrow key I entered DDP1011 menu and then scrolled down to "INDEX DELAY" and pushed the right arrow key to enter INDEX DELAY, and in this adjustment there was a red bar along the bottom of the screen. The idea of the adjustment is to make that bar the truest "RED" as possible. There will be a number, mine was 44 when I started and I have since adjusted it down to 31. That was my set and that was based on what my naked eye could see as the truest red. Once complete I hit the "Menu Button" on my remote key pad to take me out of "INDEX DELAY". When I finished I turn-off the televsion using the power button and waited at least 30 seconds before powering on my set. This allowed the changes to take place. I then went into my User Menu (UM) and change my Dynamic pictue and Cinema picture settings to my taste. As a disclaimer: I take no responsibility for your actions, this is completely up to you, I am just telling you what worked for me. Good luck
ptmaazx6 03-19-09, 01:27 PM I see your on line acillatem, any questions? PV
acillatem 03-19-09, 01:39 PM I see your on line acillatem, any questions? PV
No, not right now. Thanks for the description of what you did. I talked to the repair place that put the color wheel in yesterday, and the girl I talked to had spoken to the tech,and she said the tech said it seemed fine when he walked out. I told her, yeah 10-20% of the picture looks basically o.k. but in darker scenes and on solid color clothing it really shows. You actually may have to change a few channels to find a good example of what it's doing. Sometimes it is absolutely horrible. It is definitely related to the color wheel being changed. She did say the tech said that sometimes the color wheel has to be adjusted......I'm sure he meant an adjustment in the service menu. They didn't hesitate to say they would come back out, but not until tuesday morning,as they are booked up until then.So, I may try your method just for the heck of it, because I can always put it back to where it was. It sure sounds like I'm having the same issue you had. I just saw this guy with black hair in a slightly dark scene, and you couldn't see the sparation of the different hairs..........it was almost one black mass, with some kind of gray shadows. Almost cartoon like or even slightly like a photograph negative......I'm sure this is sounding real familiar to you. I'll think about this a bit, and maybe try it. I now I would do this at my own risk, but I'm not too worried about it. Oh, how did you change the Gamma?
ptmaazx6 03-19-09, 01:55 PM In the same menu as INDEX DELAY, is GAMMA, use the arrow keys the same way and then adjust the number using the left or right arrows. Left arrow descending and right arrow as an upward adjustment. I think it goes 0-8, but I can't remember exactly. As I said 1 worked for me. By the way I gave you the disclaimer, because I have not been on this site in awhile and I see most have been doing this. I'm a little paranoid, thinking there must have been a problem along the way. I am not a certified ISF technician, just a user like most on these threads sharing my experience with personal adjustments to my TV's. But! I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night!!!!
acillatem 03-19-09, 02:51 PM In the same menu as INDEX DELAY, is GAMMA, use the arrow keys the same way and then adjust the number using the left or right arrows. Left arrow descending and right arrow as an upward adjustment. I think it goes 0-8, but I can't remember exactly. As I said 1 worked for me. By the way I gave you the disclaimer, because I have not been on this site in awhile and I see most have been doing this. I'm a little paranoid, thinking there must have been a problem along the way. I am not a certified ISF technician, just a user like most on these threads sharing my experience with personal adjustments to my TV's. But! I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night!!!!
Oh no problem man........I'd be hesitant to tell someone to start making adjustments with the service menu myself. I was just in there and adjusting the INDEX DELAY and GAMMA are definitely the adjustments to cure my problem. My INDEX DELAY was at 41 and had to go up more, and I had a dark scene on at the time, and you watch the cartooning effect go away dramatically with each number increase. The kind of tricky part is determining the truest red with the naked eye, but watching the picture at the same time helps a little too.I have it at 53 now. I changed my GAMMA from 2 to 1, and then went back and adjusted the INDEX DELAY again. We're going to give it a couple days of watching different things and maybe fine tuning it,and maybe cancel the appointment with the tech tuesday if we feel it's where we want it. I don't know if there is anything else he would adjust that I can't, so I'm going to play that by ear over the weekend. Thanks for your help, and thanks to dengland as well. Oh, I'm assuming theses tweaks have to be done individually on the different inputs, yes?
ptmaazx6 03-19-09, 03:09 PM Great Job! I'm glad it worked for you. Yep you're right bro, they have to be accomplished at different inputs. Did you turn off DNIE in your User Menu, that seems to help quite a bit too.
acillatem 03-19-09, 03:28 PM Great Job! I'm glad it worked for you. Yep you're right bro, they have to be accomplished at different inputs. Did you turn off DNIE in your User Menu, that seems to help quite a bit too.
Yeah, did that a while back. It seems senseless now to have the guy come back tuesday, but I'll wait until the weekend to decide. I'm sure he would adjust the same thing I just adjusted, except I wonder if there is any other settings he would mess with. Kind of doubt it, if he just replaced a color wheel. If I try to find out what adjustments he would make, I might tip them off that I've been in the service menu, and they won't come. I'll just watch a little tv tonight and see how a few different channels work. I can always cancel on monday if I'm satisfied. Just bugs me that he didn't check more thoroughly. Right now I'm trying to repair the hard drive on my mp3 player lol! First time I've ever taken one of those apart also haha!
dengland 03-19-09, 07:43 PM Good job guys!
ptmaazx6 03-19-09, 07:47 PM Thank you "D" we appreciate that!
acillatem 03-19-09, 07:51 PM Indeed!!
pjones0404 05-02-09, 05:54 PM I previously had the buzzing sound on my tv. It got to a point where it would not even turn on any more. Well today i replaced the color wheel and it resolved the issue completely. I just wanted to say thanks to the people here that recommended that this may be the issue. This is what it was and i now have a working TV again.
Thanks everyone.
martynic 05-02-09, 09:15 PM I previously had the buzzing sound on my tv. It got to a point where it would not even turn on any more. Well today i replaced the color wheel and it resolved the issue completely. I just wanted to say thanks to the people here that recommended that this may be the issue. This is what it was and i now have a working TV again.
Thanks everyone.
Hey PJ...It looks like I'm going to have to do the same thing for my HLP61. How long did you experience the buzz sound before the unit would not turn on? Mine has been buzzing for a few days now.
Thanks.
pjones0404 05-03-09, 11:58 AM Martynic: I had the buzzing sound for a couple of months before it would not turn on any more. it got louder and louder over this time but still worked. One reason that I waited so long is that I ordered the replacement color wheel and it was on backorder, then i had to find time to do it when the toddler wasn't around to get into anything. The process is really pretty simple if you are familiar with taking apart a PC, which i am. Here is the link that i followed. My tv was a little different that this one but it was a good reference while i was repairing mine.
http://www.jangro.com/a/2006/07/24/samsung-dlp-replace-color-wheel/
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I just checked my other post in this thread #991. It was on 1-21-09. So it was about 3 months before it would not turn on. Let me know if you need any tips as i just replaced mine yesterday.
martynic 05-03-09, 05:04 PM Thanks pj. I'll have to get a new CW ordered. If I have any questions I'll throw them your way. Great forum.
Enjoy.
thechiz 05-24-09, 09:30 AM I have a HLP6163W.
Just recently, after 4.5 years I had to replace the lamp.
Now, when I shutdown the TV, for about ten seconds afterwards, I can hear a noise. It's like a misaligned rotor slowing down, whirrring and eventually stopping.
I wondered if the fan was turning off at this point ?
I don't notice any noises or buzzing at any other times.
I think the noise is getting louder.
Did anyone else encounter this ?
Do I need to do anything about it ?
dengland 05-24-09, 10:42 AM I have a HLP6163W.
Just recently, after 4.5 years I had to replace the lamp.
Now, when I shutdown the TV, for about ten seconds afterwards, I can hear a noise. It's like a misaligned rotor slowing down, whirrring and eventually stopping.
I wondered if the fan was turning off at this point ?
I don't notice any noises or buzzing at any other times.
I think the noise is getting louder.
Did anyone else encounter this ?
Do I need to do anything about it ?
Color wheel... Welcome to the club. Start reading backwards
martynic 05-24-09, 11:12 AM My color wheel made the noise all the time once it started to go bad. I'm not sure about yours, but I'd say it probably is the CW sine I think the fan stays on for longer than 10 seconds after shut down. Lots of info here on the thread about how to change it out. It's not difficult to do.
FYI......I changed out mine and had to open the back of the TV back up in order to pull the jumper off since the color was not right. It was not necessary to redo the whole procedure and pull the CW. I just had to open the back and reach in with a pair of needle nose to pull the jumper. My set is the HLP61. The jumper instructions came with my new CW.
Enjoy.
My 4663's lamp burst last night. I was watching highlights of the US/Brazil match, then 10 minutes later all I had was sound. Took the lamp enclosure out earlier and just like a light bulb, it popped. The glass part on the bottom of the bulb shattered.
Funny part is that this is the original bulb and it has well over 12,000 hours on it. I checked it a few years ago and it had 10,000+ hours. For a 5 year old set, I sure as heck watched a lot of tv.
67belvedere 07-10-09, 05:56 PM I have a HLP5063 that i bought new in 2004 i changed the color wheel about 4 months ago and it has been fine since till a few days ago my bulb finally blew 20203 hours on it ordered a new bulb worked fine for about two days now will not power up flashes lamp goes through that cycle three times and then three flashing lights and no light from bulb inside the tv is it possible the color wheel again or maybe the ballast
Newt1980 07-14-09, 01:07 PM I have had my Samsung for like 5 years and the past year it just wants to randomly turn off. Does anyone know what the problem could be? I'm looking for any info at the moment. Thanks!!
thechiz 07-16-09, 05:53 PM I have a HLP5063 that i bought new in 2004 i changed the color wheel about 4 months ago and it has been fine since till a few days ago my bulb finally blew 20203 hours on it ordered a new bulb worked fine for about two days now will not power up flashes lamp goes through that cycle three times and then three flashing lights and no light from bulb inside the tv is it possible the color wheel again or maybe the ballast
After 4.5 years I had to replace the lamp on my HLP6163W. Then within a few days I noticed whirring rotor-like noises for about ten to fifteen seconds after I turned it off. After 1 month I even started hearing the noise intermittently during programs. After 2 months I got the lamp light flashing cycle three times again. I had someone put in a new color wheel and it fixed it. I was surprised that 2 things would go wrong in such a short space of time as a few days after years, but it did happen to me. Perhaps you are indeed unlucky and you have got the trifecta with the ballast failing as well ?
HiDefGator 07-20-09, 05:28 PM I have had my Samsung for like 5 years and the past year it just wants to randomly turn off. Does anyone know what the problem could be? I'm looking for any info at the moment. Thanks!!
Mine started turning itself off a month ago. Someone on another board suggested dust buildup on components was causing this problem. I took the back off, took out the bulb, vacuumed it all out, and no more turn offs.
I'm a little surprised because there wasn't that much dust build up in it. But it hasn't done a self turn off since.
mcounsilman 08-07-09, 07:01 PM Hi guys,
new here, but I've read a lot of your posts and I've learned a lot so thanks! Unfortunately my problem is similar, but I can't seem to fix it.
I have a Samsung HLP5063W and there was a horrible whirring noise, and after paying a guy 75 dollars to come look at it, he said it was the color wheel (damn those things). so instead of paying a ridiculous 200 dollars in labor to have him fix it, I purchased and replaced the color wheel myself. everything seemed fine until I turned on the TV, and although the whirring noise was gone, the colors were reversed! oh no!
so I come onto the forums and a lot of you mentioned removing a jumper. There was no jumper on that metal plate below the sticker, so I moved onto the next solution....many have mentioned to change the index delay and gamma values. The index delay bar turns a reddish pink at a value of 250+ when it used to be at 30 something! this can't be right...and it didn't really help. I also changed the gamma values back and forth but that didn't seem to help either since the colors are so messed up. I changed the CCA values for RED, GREEN, BLUE, WHITE x and y according to the sticker that came with the new color wheel. I'm not sure what the Lv values are for, and there's nothing written under "index delay" and "actuator".
Can anyone help me with this? most of you seem to have solved the problem with the index delay/gamma but it's not working for me :( I've called a Sears technician who's going to get back to me with a price estimate, but obviously I'd love to be able to fix it myself...why pay 100+ dollars just to have someone change a few numbers? Please let me know, I'd absolutely appreciate it!
dengland 08-07-09, 07:11 PM Hi guys,
I have a Samsung HLP5063W and there was a horrible whirring noise, and after paying a guy 75 dollars to come look at it, he said it was the color wheel (damn those things). so instead of paying a ridiculous 200 dollars in labor to have him fix it, I purchased and replaced the color wheel myself. everything seemed fine until I turned on the TV, and although the whirring noise was gone, the colors were reversed! oh no!
so I come onto the forums and a lot of you mentioned removing a jumper. There was no jumper on that metal plate below the sticker, so I moved onto the next solution....many have mentioned to change the index delay and gamma values. The index delay bar turns a reddish pink at a value of 250+ when it used to be at 30 something! this can't be right...and it didn't really help. I also changed the gamma values back and forth but that didn't seem to help either since the colors are so messed up. I changed the CCA values for RED, GREEN, BLUE, WHITE x and y according to the sticker that came with the new color wheel. I'm not sure what the Lv values are for, and there's nothing written under "index delay" and "actuator".
It has been a while since I had this set, so I might be rusty...
Strange, but if there was no jumper, I would add one. I find it hard to believe that you got an "old style" CW. Give it a try. You should be able to keep the CCA values set to the new values.
mcounsilman 08-07-09, 07:17 PM I'm not too technology savvy (admittedly I had two friends come over and help me with the color wheel while following a guide) - where would the jumper be plugged into and where do I get one? The old color wheel looks the same as the new one and didn't have any extra jumpers etc. if this helps, this is what the inside of the tv looks like.
dengland 08-07-09, 07:41 PM I'm not too technology savvy (admittedly I had two friends come over and help me with the color wheel while following a guide) - where would the jumper be plugged into and where do I get one? The old color wheel looks the same as the new one and didn't have any extra jumpers etc. if this helps, this is what the inside of the tv looks like.
Are you sure there is no jumper...It almost seems that I see one in the picture. It will be in the rectangle cut out about 1/4 inch below the sticker that says "FDB Bearing".
The jumper would be the same as what would come with a motherboard if you have ever upgraded a computer.
Check again real close inside of that rectangle area
mcounsilman 08-08-09, 10:40 AM Are you sure there is no jumper...It almost seems that I see one in the picture. It will be in the rectangle cut out about 1/4 inch below the sticker that says "FDB Bearing".
The jumper would be the same as what would come with a motherboard if you have ever upgraded a computer.
Check again real close inside of that rectangle area
ooh hm are you talking about the tiny little black square? I think before I was under the impression it would've been a bigger plug type thing. if this is it, do I just yank it out? I tried pulling on it with some tweezers and it wasn't budging, so I thought maybe it's actually attached as part of the board.
dengland 08-08-09, 06:40 PM ooh hm are you talking about the tiny little black square? I think before I was under the impression it would've been a bigger plug type thing. if this is it, do I just yank it out? I tried pulling on it with some tweezers and it wasn't budging, so I thought maybe it's actually attached as part of the board.
Yep, that is it. I had to use needle nose pliers.
attached is a picture of a jumper on a motherboard
mcounsilman 08-09-09, 12:08 PM Yep, that is it. I had to use needle nose pliers.
attached is a picture of a jumper on a motherboard
that absolutely was it! I can't thank you enough for your help, I think I was about to go insane from all this. I'm so happy I can cancel the technician visit and everything looks gorgeous now! (once I brought the index delay value back down to the 30's :) )
I hope it stays working and nothing else goes wrong :D thanks again dengland and everyone else that contributed to this helpful thread!
dengland 08-09-09, 12:33 PM that absolutely was it! I can't thank you enough for your help, I think I was about to go insane from all this. I'm so happy I can cancel the technician visit and everything looks gorgeous now! (once I brought the index delay value back down to the 30's :) )
I hope it stays working and nothing else goes wrong :D thanks again dengland and everyone else that contributed to this helpful thread!
Glad it all worked out. We have all been on the receiving end of information in a thread!
I was just curious what firmware versions other HL-P4663W owners might have.
I have firmware version 1035. Anyone have one higher than that?
andersa 09-17-09, 09:48 PM Had a tech come in to replace the color wheel - our HLP5063 is still covered under the extended warranty.
After repair - colors are all messed up.
The tech tells my wife (I wasn't home) that they've been using a 3rd party supplier as Samsung has the color wheels on back order but that they have gotten several bad color wheels from the 3rd party... I.e. his assertion is that they can't fix the TV before they get the proper color wheel from Samsung come October or so.
Of course I've subscribed to this thread for years and have seen the posts re the jumper - could the tech really have missed something so simple?
The picture pretty much look all magenta, is that what others have seen to before removing the jumper?
/Anders
Hi- only my 3rd or 4th post on here, but hoping one of you might be able to help. I received two non-working Samsung HLP5063W's last week, paid $125 total for both, with the hope that I could use parts out of one to fix the other. I replaced the DMD board and lamp ballast on one with the parts from the other, and voila!! Perfectly functional set!
The problem is, that I cannot access the service menu to tweak settings. No matter how many times I press "Mute-1-8-2-Power" on the remote the service menu will simply not come up. Is it actually possible to disable the service menu in these TV's? If so, is there any way to gain access to it again??
Thanks for your help!!
collinp 09-25-09, 04:35 AM Hi- only my 3rd or 4th post on here, but hoping one of you might be able to help. I received two non-working Samsung HLP5063W's last week, paid $125 total for both, with the hope that I could use parts out of one to fix the other. I replaced the DMD board and lamp ballast on one with the parts from the other, and voila!! Perfectly functional set!
The problem is, that I cannot access the service menu to tweak settings. No matter how many times I press "Mute-1-8-2-Power" on the remote the service menu will simply not come up. Is it actually possible to disable the service menu in these TV's? If so, is there any way to gain access to it again??
Thanks for your help!!
There's no way to disable the service menu. Are you trying this with the set fully powered up? If so that won't work. You need to put the set in standby mode first before entering the key sequence.
- Collin
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