Great episode. Lots of funny House zingers. Oh, I also agree with the other post that we need more Wilson.

The polio plotline really grated on me until the twist at the end with DWB poisoning the patient to forward his agenda. I thought that was a good end to his story, and believable given his confrontation with House the other week. Redeemed that one.

Other than that, there was not enough Wilson and Cuddy.
That's the problem - farfetched. Aside from the CIA ridiculousness, poisoning the patient was absurd. And the jokes seemed forced.

Michael Michelle = Fantastic Episode. :D

So is anyone buying into ANY of the "survivors"? For the most part we have no idea of their names, or really who they are. Sure we know "Cutthroat" , and "Black Mormon" but the rest are all more or less interchangeable, by this point of the story arc shouldn't we know more? I'm not the least bit invested in ANY of them, they can all float off on a raft and I wouldn't miss any of them. Shouldn't the writers have me at least rooting for one or two of them?

I wonder if this thing is a ruse. In a few weeks all of them will be gone and this whole arc will end Tritter-like, never to be mentioned again.

I can only hope....

So is anyone buying into ANY of the "survivors"? For the most part we have no idea of their names, or really who they are. Sure we know "Cutthroat" , and "Black Mormon" but the rest are all more or less interchangeable, by this point of the story arc shouldn't we know more? I'm not the least bit invested in ANY of them, they can all float off on a raft and I wouldn't miss any of them. Shouldn't the writers have me at least rooting for one or two of them?

I wonder if this thing is a ruse. In a few weeks all of them will be gone and this whole arc will end Tritter-like, never to be mentioned again.

I can only hope....

I kind of agree, although I do like the plastic surgeon guy a little bit for some reason. However, I never cared for any of the previous three either, so to me the show is just as good without them, and certainly a lot fresher.

Number Thirteen is sure nice to look at, but other than that, they can bring in another set of characters and I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

I miss the character that was not a real doctor. I think he could have been held onto for a few more episodes.

That's the problem - farfetched. Aside from the CIA ridiculousness, poisoning the patient was absurd. And the jokes seemed forced.

I agree ... we should start having House diagnose Appendicitis and Ear Infections to make the show less farfetched. And no more jokes!

I agree ... we should start having House diagnose Appendicitis and Ear Infections to make the show less farfetched. And no more jokes!

I'm pretty sure that a show can have humor without it being forced - that is what made House so entertaining the first 3 seasons.

House was always a drama with some dry wit thrown in, not a "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" comedy with some drama thrown in.

I do not expect EVERY episode of HOUSE to be a masterpiece. That being said, I feel that the consistent level of high quality scripts is certainly superior to every other hourly show on TV. Like the works of a great artist, some of the paintings will stand out in comnparison others, but that doesn't diminish the overall excellence of the body of work, it only makes the exceptional pieces that much more memorable.

So is anyone buying into ANY of the "survivors"? For the most part we have no idea of their names, or really who they are. Sure we know "Cutthroat" , and "Black Mormon" but the rest are all more or less interchangeable, by this point of the story arc shouldn't we know more? I'm not the least bit invested in ANY of them, they can all float off on a raft and I wouldn't miss any of them. Shouldn't the writers have me at least rooting for one or two of them?

I wonder if this thing is a ruse. In a few weeks all of them will be gone and this whole arc will end Tritter-like, never to be mentioned again.

I can only hope....

Keep hoping! The only way I can see this current debacle getting any worse is if CIA girl is somehow affiliated with Tritter, who got a promotion from cop to agent, and we have to endure that nightmare all over again as well as the current one. :mad:


I'm pretty sure that a show can have humor without it being forced - that is what made House so entertaining the first 3 seasons.

House was always a drama with some dry wit thrown in, not a "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" comedy with some drama thrown in.

I guess too many didn't get the dry. More dumbing-down for America. No Viewer Left Behind. :(

So is anyone buying into ANY of the "survivors"? For the most part we have no idea of their names, or really who they are. Sure we know "Cutthroat" , and "Black Mormon" but the rest are all more or less interchangeable, by this point of the story arc shouldn't we know more? I'm not the least bit invested in ANY of them, they can all float off on a raft and I wouldn't miss any of them. Shouldn't the writers have me at least rooting for one or two of them?

I wonder if this thing is a ruse. In a few weeks all of them will be gone and this whole arc will end Tritter-like, never to be mentioned again.

I can only hope....
When I saw the opening credits of the first show this season, I got the feeling that this would all be just another story arc. When they kept the same cast in the same intro, it just seemed to fit.

I am surprised there is so much negativity on this ep. I thought this was the best (and funniest) of the season. I was in tears from laughing so hard at one point.

They have a satellite on Cutty's vagina. Although the chances of invasion are slim to none. :D I had a good laugh at that one, too.

Number Thirteen is sure nice to look at
You can say that again...

How many more episodes of House are "in the can"? I.e., how many more episodes will we get to watch before the writers strike impacts House?

How many more episodes of House are "in the can"? I.e., how many more episodes will we get to watch before the writers strike impacts House?
As if we'd even notice anything different, with the way Fox loves to put shows on long vacations.

How many more episodes of House are "in the can"? I.e., how many more episodes will we get to watch before the writers strike impacts House?
As I recall, there was a thread on the WGA strike with a list of shows and the number of episodes they had left. Unfortunately, I don't remember seeing House listed.

Fox has already pushed back the premier of "24".

How many more episodes of House are "in the can"? I.e., how many more episodes will we get to watch before the writers strike impacts House?

You mean it already hasn't? ;)

You mean it already hasn't? ;)

:p

How many more episodes of House are "in the can"? I.e., how many more episodes will we get to watch before the writers strike impacts House?
6 episodes left.

FYI, for those who like to re-watch shows and don't have a DVR, USA is replaying the October 30th episode tonight. Check your local times.

As was stated a while back in this thread, USA seems to re-air House episodes 10 days after they originally aired.

FYI, for those who like to re-watch shows and don't have a DVR, USA is replaying the October 30th episode tonight. Check your local times.

As was stated a while back in this thread, USA seems to re-air House episodes 10 days after they originally aired.

and in HD too :)

and in HD too :)
I have found the PQ to be slightly better than Fox as well.

6 episodes left.

Thanks.

FYI, for those who like to re-watch shows and don't have a DVR, USA is replaying the October 30th episode tonight. Check your local times.

As was stated a while back in this thread, USA seems to re-air House episodes 10 days after they originally aired.

Thanks! My power was out last Tuesday, so I could't record House. I'll keep an eye out for it on USA.

I think this year has been fantastic.

Now if they'd only bring back Dr. Buffer....

...Now if they'd only bring back Dr. Buffer....
Agreed. Too bad the only remotely interesting new character was written out in the first episode. :(

Lol. That was a great episode. Will post more on this tomorrow. :)

Didn't care for the black and white segments. Not sure why they had to film it in black and white, except to let us know it was the camera crew.

Once again, the best parts of the show where with Wilson and House. Wilson's interview was laugh out loud fantastic. :)

Wilson's interview was laugh out loud fantastic.

LOL, I loved that Senator Craig reference.:D

Best House line for me....

"make my big toe bigger, like a toegmentation."

The moments with House and Wilson in the video room were pure gold, bringing back the resplendent nature of the show's origins and brightest days. Same with the final scene between House and Cuddy. Unfortunately, precious seconds that could have been dedicated to further bask in these delicious (and now rare) delightfully humorous moments were wasted on the resoundingly non-funny Kumar and his equally non-amusing Woody-Allen-esque interaction with the patient. Kumar doesn't belong on House, he belongs back at home.

Everyone gets equal time, with a premium paid to Dr. Plastic and his peripheral, pedantic, and pathetic backstory. Too many cast members here. Like a team with two quarterbacks, where it simply means you don't have two that are so good you can't choose, you just have two that suck equally...such is the case that becomes exponentially compounded with this big team of new scabs. Euphoria, anyone? Not this year, not with this team. More House, more Wilson, more Cuddy, more Foreman = more magic. Remove the scabs and expose the show's true beauty once again. Time to heal.

Too many cast members here.

You said a lot of things in your post that I agree with, but this sums up the problem in one sentence.

Wilson: "How did you get the keys?"
House: "Blue the Janitor"
Wilson "His name is Lou"
House: "Well then I owe him an apology"

Wilson: "How did you get the keys?"
House: "Blue the Janitor"
Wilson "His name is Lou"
House: "Well then I owe him an apology"

Since everyone heard it as "Blew" that makes it even funnier. :)

I see that the actress that plays Cameron has signed up to be on the new Star Trek film. I didn't catch what role she will be playing, anyone see that?

I see that the actress that plays Cameron has signed up to be on the new Star Trek film. I didn't catch what role she will be playing, anyone see that?

Well I guess now that Kirstie Alley can't fit on the bridge they had to find someone else (sorry, couldn't resist). ;)

=NLK=

I see that the actress that plays Cameron has signed up to be on the new Star Trek film. I didn't catch what role she will be playing, anyone see that?

The latest rumor is tha she will play the "#1" to Captain Pike.

Since everyone heard it as "Blew" that makes it even funnier. :)


Yeah, I wasn't sure which way to type it, but the conotation is still the same. Except technically, if the joke is meant to pass it off as a name, then my speling may be more accurate......it's all in the subtlety.

Hillarious none the less.

Yeah, I wasn't sure which way to type it, but the conotation is still the same. Except technically, if the joke is meant to pass it off as a name, then my speling may be more accurate......it's all in the subtlety.

Hillarious none the less.

No criticism intended :) I was just explaining how I HEARD it and, as you say, the conotation implicit in my spelling.

Maybe in the script it had your spelling to get around the "Standards and Practices" department as I don't think US TV would allow a male to say that he provided oral favours (on another male) to get a set of keys. :)

No criticism intended :) I was just explaining how I HEARD it and, as you say, the conotation implicit in my spelling.

Maybe in the script it had your spelling to get around the "Standards and Practices" department as I don't think US TV would allow a male to say that he provided oral favours (on another male) to get a set of keys. :)

The funniest part of it was the split second between when he said it and when Wilson said his line.........All I could think was "They didnt just say that!" I was laughing out loud so hard that I had to rewind to here Wilsons line, and then I laughed all over again.

I see that the actress that plays Cameron has signed up to be on the new Star Trek film. I didn't catch what role she will be playing, anyone see that?

mmmm, Cameron in tight spandex blown up on a 40 foot screen = :eek:

At least she won't be wearing those "old lady" blouses from last season!

Cameron needs to be in the short mini of yesteryear!

The janitor reference was great, I agree I was shocked they said it and even if they played it off like it was the guys name, it didn't change what I heard!

I also liked the fact that he fired MM at the end and then asked her out to dinner.... Takes nerve!

Good episode but it sure seems to me like House is wrong a lot more this season. His diagnosis seems to be always wrong. Might just be me but that struck me last night.

Some of the best moments are when House can look at someone and tell them things about themselves, like when he told the magician, what he eats, how he brushes, etc.

Wilson's moment, once again, was hilarous. Sure wish they had more of these and less of Foreman (man Foreman bores the heck out of me).

Foreman barely has a significant role on the show, so how can he bore you so much?

Foreman's dialog at this point could come from anyone. There's nothing tied at all to his character. He really is boring, which is kind of a shame because I always thought he was interesting (not likable, but interesting).

Wilson is gold. He's fabulous and definitely underrated.

I liked the ep last night, and was glad they got rid of Mormon-man. He was just too one note and had already run his course.

Foreman barely has a significant role on the show, so how can he bore you so much?

His dialog is boring. Its always the same thing, he seems to have no purpose on the show except to be in some scenes because his contract called for it. Soon as the camera pans to him I roll my eyes because I know whats coming out of his mouth. That is what is getting boring. The janitor could be sitting there doing it and I would say that character is boring (well, kind of, that actually might make it funny).

His dialog is boring. Its always the same thing, he seems to have no purpose on the show except to be in some scenes because his contract called for it. Soon as the camera pans to him I roll my eyes because I know whats coming out of his mouth. That is what is getting boring. The janitor could be sitting there doing it and I would say that character is boring (well, kind of, that actually might make it funny).

Replace Foreman with the guy who got booted last night, or the dude who wasn't a doctor - thought they were both more interesting (and entertaining). Or, for sheer entertainment value - bring back "Dr Buffer".

Replace Foreman with the guy who got booted last night, or the dude who wasn't a doctor - thought they were both more interesting (and entertaining). Or, for sheer entertainment value - bring back "Dr Buffer".

Foreman has the same "One eyebrow up" look whenever someone talks to him.

Foreman has the same "One eyebrow up" look whenever someone talks to him.

funny thing is that I think most of the characters on the show are boring since we hardly ever see what goes on in their personal lives IMHO.

I keep waiting for a "break through" episode this year, but we just haven't had it.

There were some good/funny moments in last nights episode with the magician, but not enough to make it a particularly good episode, especially compared to what we had on a regular basis last season.

Part of the problem, to me, is that these episodes are all too light hearted....even though I don't think that is intentional. I just don't feel the drama. When we were told about #13's mother and her disease, and the fact that #13 might have it too, I really didn't care. There just has not been sufficient character development to make me care.

And we get yet another epiphany from House while talking to Wilson (about blood types).

I'm not sure what the answer is, but this is not the show that it was last year.

I'm not sure what the answer is, but this is not the show that it was last year.

I think some of what we are seeing (lightheartedness etc) is pure rebound from the much maligned Tritter arcs. Then again, perhaps they just wanted to try something new. :)

The "new" team story arc is winding down, finally. I wonder how the integration is going to work. Obviously, there's going to be less screen time for anyone except House. Will they give Hugh a couple of eps off? I can see that. A new direction? Hopefully.

I wonder if in an exec meeting, someone pointed out that contracts were up last year and all the cast members were going to come asking for a big raise. Solution, give the money to Hugh, threaten to write out the other characters and bring on some hourlies to compete and make the other regulars uncomfortable. Maybe, I'm way off base, huh :rolleyes:. "No ones job is secure and you want more money?"

Good episode. The rock star was kind of funny how he rebelled all the time. I liked the smoking patch scene.

I was really bummed when I heard that House will still have Foreman around. Bummer, his roll, especially last night, just points out that he is around just because they didn't want to cut him out completely from the show. Seems like such a waste to have him in there.

I picked his new staff (was anyone surprised). I even told my wife it was going to be three people. I thought I would be wrong with all the talk of Foreman, but glad to see it was those three.

Hmm. Pretty weak semi-finale, considering the show is now in stasis until January. I didn't care if the patient lived or died, much like all the rest this year. No humor in this episode whatsoever. No drama either. Just a slow, pedantic, disjointed series of events that led up to the anti-climatic and disappointing conclusion.

We're keeping 13: the boring, uninspiried Cameron clone. We're keeping Dr. Plastic: who at least showed a bit of promise in the past few episodes, becoming the (far less talented) mimic of Foreman as House's foil. And we're keeping Kumar: the pathetic afterthought character that offers absolutely nothing to this show, as WhiteCastle is nowhere near the hospital.

I was really bummed when I heard that House will still have Foreman around. Bummer, his roll, especially last night, just points out that he is around just because they didn't want to cut him out completely from the show.

Is that a white or wheat roll? Epps as Foreman couldn't be more brilliant in his role.

I must be pretty easy to entertain. I liked the episode. :)

I picked his new staff (was anyone surprised).

LOL ... I think the good folks @ TVGuide already let those cats out of the bag at least a month ago. ;) :D

Um, what Spyder said. :D

I enjoyed the episode and laughed at many different points.

Does anyone remember another Medical Show (I THINK it was Chicago Hope) had a case almost exactly the same as Wilson's case last night?

Is that a white or wheat roll? Epps as Foreman couldn't be more brilliant in his role.

Either way, he sucks at what he does. A monkey could do the same thing. Okay, that is a little harsh but wow, its always, "No, don't do this, it would not be ethical." Wow, really, never new Foreman would say such a thing. They need to ditch him and go with something new. Epps is a brilliant actor, the character Foreman is boring and drags the show down for me.

I missed this last episode. Is there a channel where I can see it later this week?

great episode -- i wish the wilson being sued storyline could have been a mini-arc in the season.

Foreman is being wasted. Epps is brilliant and sits there and does nothing. Now that the focus is off of the game, lets hope the 3 originals receive more screentime

I missed this last episode. Is there a channel where I can see it later this week?

USA Network on Friday December 7th @ 11pm

I missed this last episode. Is there a channel where I can see it later this week?

FOX On-Demand, new eps posted 8 days after broadcast.

http://www.fox.com/fod/player.htm?show=house

Does anyone know what the remote that was in the opening scene was?

Does anyone know what the remote that was in the opening scene?
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/devices/375&cl=us,en

Does anyone remember another Medical Show (I THINK it was Chicago Hope) had a case almost exactly the same as Wilson's case last night?

Grey's did an episode where Meredith and Grampa Gilmore told a patient he was dying when he wasn't.

Does anyone know what the remote that was in the opening scene was?The Logitech Harmony "for Xbox 360" model (all other models have a number, but not that one for some reason--you can see a list of all of them here (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/&cl=us,en)). I own one myself and it's great. They must of have used it because it's so purty--I don't think that there was an Xbox 360 in the scene :).

The Logitech Harmony "for Xbox 360" model (all other models have a number, but not that one for some reason--you can see a list of all of them here (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/remotes/universal_remotes/&cl=us,en)). I own one myself and it's great. They must of have used it because it's so purty--I don't think that there was an Xbox 360 in the scene :).

Yeah i thought it was a harmony, i myself dont have a 360 so no need for a 360 remote. i got the Harmony 880

so I found this today and had to order it, the company that makes House's Flame Cane has put them on sale for 27 bucks.

http://www.fashionablecanes.com/3451.html

Probably one of those useless things one buys and regrets later, but I'm too much a fan of the character not to have it.

That being said, picking Kutner was a stupid move. He's a liability and everybody knows it. Hell Cuddy wanted Big Love to get rid of him the week before cause of it, this week she's all for him. Sadly Kumar is a "name" actor, probably doesnt help Singer feels bad for cutting down his part in Superman Returns (or so I've read) - so where now forced with his 'hilarious' shenanigans while the perfectly good and much more interesting original three hang out on the sideline.

I'm hoping this show recovers, the season started off well, but lately it seems very bored.

Hell Cuddy wanted Big Love to get rid of [Kutner] the week before cause of it, this week she's all for him.Cuddy wanted House to hire the women. She tried to use reverse psychology when she told him to keep the men.

Yeah i thought it was a harmony, i myself dont have a 360 so no need for a 360 remote. i got the Harmony 880

The Harmony 360 remote is basically the same as the 5XX models, but has special "X, A, B, and Y" buttons for the 360. They both are at the lowest end of their line and have a cheap feel to them in coparison to the others. Stick with your 880.

Cuddy wanted House to hire the women. She tried to use reverse psychology when she told him to keep the men.

Hmm, and I guess cause Foreman is still part of the team it wouldn't sexual discrimination. Must have missed that line, my apologies.

The Harmony 360 remote is basically the same as the 5XX models, but has special "X, A, B, and Y" buttons for the 360. They both are at the lowest end of their line and have a cheap feel to them in coparison to the others. Stick with your 880.Your opinion. I've been using my "for Xbox" model for over a year and it feels great. I tried the 880 and there is little better about it and I detest that peanut-shaped ID and all flat buttons. It does have a color screen and graphical icons for the dynamically assigned button labels and 6 such buttons instead of a four--if they'd had a model with the 880's screen and dynamic buttons and the svelte, comfortable shape of the "for Xbox" and 550, I'd have gone for it.

Apparently the producers of House feel the same way--you note that they didn't use the homely 880 in that scene.

In any case your snyde, disparaging comment had no purpose--the person you responded to never suggested that he might switch from his 880.

Your opinion. I've been using my "for Xbox" model for over a year and it feels great. I tried the 880 and there is little better about it and I detest that peanut-shaped ID and all flat buttons. It does have a color screen and graphical icons for the dynamically assigned button labels and 6 such buttons instead of a four--if they'd had a model with the 880's screen and dynamic buttons and the svelte, comfortable shape of the "for Xbox" and 550, I'd have gone for it.

Apparently the producers of House feel the same way--you note that they didn't use the homely 880 in that scene.

In any case your snyde, disparaging comment had no purpose--the person you responded to never suggested that he might switch from his 880.


Hey, I'm no real fan of the 8XX series either. I don't care for the button configuration or the "feel" of those units. After owning every, last, single model that Harmony makes, I decided upon the 676 and the 680 models, as they are the most user-friendly in terms of tactile aspects in the entire line, and are a step up from the all-time favorites 659/628 units. Compared to all the other models, other than the wonky SST, the 5XX has a "cheap" feel, imo.

My comments were not aimed at anyone in particular, simply thrown out there as an antithesis against buying one particular model because it supposedly "looks cool" on a show. I will say that the 5XX/XBox models are extremely good for those with smaller hands, as the buttons are tiny and the frame is very low-profile.

While I aplologize that your sensitivities were threatened by my opinions and comments, they remain unchanged.

In any case your snyde, disparaging comment had no purpose--the person you responded to never suggested that he might switch from his 880.
That's quite a leap. You might be doting on your remote a bit too much. Esp since my $75 MX-500 is far superior in layout and feel to any of your piddly Harmonys. :p

Isn't Kumar's the only character that didn't actually come up with a correct diagnosis? In any episode? House has, of course. Foreman did, 13 did, Bitch did. Pretty sure I remember little man, too.

I'm going to miss the Bitch. I like tall chicks.

If they were smart, they would bring Amber back as Cuddy's personal assistant or something. She has some of the best legs on television.

If they were smart, they would bring Amber back as Cuddy's personal assistant or something. She has some of the best legs on television.

Who is Amber?

Who is Amber?AKA "Cutthroat Bitch".

Who is Amber?

That pretty much sums up this season entirely.

That pretty much sums up this season entirely.
:rolleyes: Or it just shows that the candidates were most often referred to by their nicknames, which meant that we didn't have much of a chance to learn their real names. I've watched every episode, and I still have to pause for a few seconds to remember the first names of House's original team. Same thing.

Now that the team has been selected, maybe "thirteen" can get a real name.

Will be interesting to see if they change the opening credits. The original team now isn't much more than window dressing with an occasional line here and there.

Hey, I'm no real fan of the 8XX series either. I don't care for the button configuration or the "feel" of those units. After owning every, last, single model that Harmony makes, I decided upon the 676 and the 680 models, as they are the most user-friendly in terms of tactile aspects in the entire line, and are a step up from the all-time favorites 659/628 units. Compared to all the other models, other than the wonky SST, the 5XX has a "cheap" feel, imo.

My comments were not aimed at anyone in particular, simply thrown out there as an antithesis against buying one particular model because it supposedly "looks cool" on a show. I will say that the 5XX/XBox models are extremely good for those with smaller hands, as the buttons are tiny and the frame is very low-profile.

While I aplologize that your sensitivities were threatened by my opinions and comments, they remain unchanged.

Only on the AVS forum does a seventy-eight page thread about an HD television show turn into a discussion about a universal remote seen in the opening scene.

That's why I love this place. :)

My comments were not aimed at anyone in particular, simply thrown out there as an antithesis against buying one particular model because it supposedly "looks cool" on a show. I will say that the 5XX/XBox models are extremely good for those with smaller hands, as the buttons are tiny and the frame is very low-profile.While I'm loath to continue this rathole, I hadn't read your reply thoroughly until the guy above quoted it. I'd just like to add that I'm a considerably large guy (6 foot, 260+ lbs) and my hands are huge. The "for Xbox" Harmony is one of the most comfortable remotes I've ever used and I own about $1500 worth of discarded advanced remotes, including one of the HT Master MX series.

Don't hate it because it's beautiful :D. I've had several female visitors remark on how pretty they think it is (with it's pearl-and-silver color scheme and bright green backlight). None of them had any ability to appreciate it as a gadget--they just liked its esthetic.

Did anyone else notice House saying something to the effect that if you checked out the internet you would already know who he was going to choose for his assistants?

Thought that was particularly funny.

Only on the AVS forum does a seventy-eight page thread about an HD television show turn into a discussion about a universal remote seen in the opening scene.

That's why I love this place. :)

From Vogler, to Tritter, to Kumar, to Harmony...this is easily one of the most eclectic and volatile threads outside the PS3/360/Blu/HD turf-wars. There's a little something for everyone. :)

Only on the AVS forum does a seventy-eight page thread about an HD television show turn into a discussion about a universal remote seen in the opening scene.

That's why I love this place. :)

Wow, you should change your settings. This is page 39 for me.

Wow, you should change your settings. This is page 39 for me.

No, you should change your settings. :p
Page 118 for me. Why load a bunch of ancient posts? :confused:

This is html, t standing for text. Takes essentially the same time to load a page with twice as many posts since the graphics don't change and most of the waiting is in the handshaking and graphics. But, I don't have to reload a page every 2 minutes in a busy thread.

And geez, page 39 was only 2 weeks worth. It's not like I'm loading page 1.

This is html, t standing for text...I don't have to reload a page every 2 minutes in a busy thread.

Thanks for clearing that up. I always thought it was: HolographicTranslucentMercurialTelecommunication. :o

What thread has 20+ posts every 2 minutes? That's one hot tamale right there! I want in. :)

* None of this has anything to do with House, but somebody's gotta keep this thread alive for the next 2 months until it comes back and House sh!tcans the whole lot of new peons. :D

It's highly possible that, like me, Spiky just doesn't check the thread that regularly.

I'd wager that at least one of the newbies is a permanent addition. I can see one getting fired by the end of the season, and given the male-female imbalance on this show, I'm guessing 13 is here to stay. Hopefully the show will start shifting to their real names so I'll stop refering to them as Kumar, 13, and Plastic Surgeon Guy.

What will Foreman's role be now that the competition is over? Back to his old job and only slightly less subordinate? I could certainly see Cameron swooning/groveling back to House eventually. I think Chase could stay out, though he had probably my favorite dynamic with House. Oh well.

...What will Foreman's role be now that the competition is over? Back to his old job and only slightly less subordinate? I could certainly see Cameron swooning/groveling back to House eventually. I think Chase could stay out, though he had probably my favorite dynamic with House. Oh well.

I'd LOVE to see Foreman; paired up with and in charge of Cameron and Chase, all on a seperate team, apart from, and in direct competition with House and his new non-talents.

It makes perfect sense. Foreman gets to be House without actually being around House. Cameron gets to be with Chase, but still gets to be around House. Chase gets to still be with Cameron, but be without House's direct influence.

...And they all get to be on the show as more than window dressing, reminding us just how pathetic, shallow, and one-dimensional the new team is on a weekly basis.

Cuddy gets a kick out of the old kids showing up House once in a while. Wilson gets the opportunity to exact some hilarious revenge on House by helping the old team. House gets a rush from the competition, and it would serve as a catalyst for further abuse of the new losers in his desperation to win every case.

Works for me.

When will the next new episode be, the promo at the end of Tuesday's show sounded like January?

I'd LOVE to see Foreman; paired up with and in charge of Cameron and Chase, all on a seperate team, apart from, and in direct competition with House and his new non-talents.

It makes perfect sense. Foreman gets to be House without actually being around House. Cameron gets to be with Chase, but still gets to be around House. Chase gets to still be with Cameron, but be without House's direct influence.

...And they all get to be on the show as more than window dressing, reminding us just how pathetic, shallow, and one-dimensional the new team is on a weekly basis.

Cuddy gets a kick out of the old kids showing up House once in a while. Wilson gets the opportunity to exact some hilarious revenge on House by helping the old team. House gets a rush from the competition, and it would serve as a catalyst for further abuse of the new losers in his desperation to win every case.

Works for me.

Oooh. I like the two team idea.

When will the next new episode be, the promo at the end of Tuesday's show sounded like January?

yup

I'd LOVE to see Foreman; paired up with and in charge of Cameron and Chase, all on a seperate team, apart from, and in direct competition with House and his new non-talents.

Generally I agree with your takes on House but I think the "competition" idea is a terrible one and is primarily responsible for what has pretty much destroyed this season.

As you've rightly mentioned in the past, House works when the patient is interesting and memorable to the viewer. The personality quirks of the staff then serve as extra spice to make this more than just a medical procedural show.

I don't think there is enough love interest on the show. I'm thinking something between 13 and Cameron. Who's with me? :D

so I found this today and had to order it, the company that makes House's Flame Cane has put them on sale for 27 bucks.

http://www.fashionablecanes.com/3451.html

Probably one of those useless things one buys and regrets later, but I'm too much a fan of the character not to have it.

Off-topic, but if you are a golfer, you can also get flames for the shafts in your clubs:
http://www.shaftskinz.com/images/futureproducts_previews/fp_fire_red_yellow.gif
http://www.shaftskinz.com/

* None of this has anything to do with House, but somebody's gotta keep this thread alive for the next 2 months until it comes back and House sh!tcans the whole lot of new peons. :D
See, we DO think alike!

I don't think there is enough love interest on the show. I'm thinking something between 13 and Cameron. Who's with me? :D

I'm still waiting on for House to help Cuddy with her baby problem. House as a dad would be hilarious.

"Destroyed the season"? Give me a break.

"Destroyed the season"? Give me a break.I'm sure that the producer will happily sign on for more "destruction", inasmuch as the plot doesn't seem to have alienated the audience. The show is running #7 overall in the ratings, season-to-date, averaging a 10.5/16 share with 17+ million viewers. I don't think that any non-reality show on Fox has ever done as well as this season of House and nothing else on Fox is in the top 20 this season. (Idol generally grabs the Nos. 1 and 3 ratings spots, during its run).

I'm sure that the producer will happily sign on for more "destruction", inasmuch as the plot doesn't seem to have alienated the audience.

By the same logic, The Phantom Menace was an improvement over The Empire Strikes Back since it made more money.

The fact of the matter is that successful franchises have inertia and fans of the franchise are slow to abandon it no matter how severe the decline in quality.

House would have been canceled half way through the first season if the episodes from this season had opened the series. The series is now cashing in on it's inertia rather and enhancing it.

Oh, give me a break...are you serious?

I've enjoyed this season tremendously, and find it just as good as seasons past.

I've enjoyed this season tremendously, and find it just as good as seasons past.

Just curious, can you post anything without writing "Give me a break"? It makes you sound like a jerk. Why not write something intelligent and insightful that actually defends your point of view rather than sounding like a 14 year old girl?

The fact of the matter is that season 4 of House has a far different dynamic than the first three. Maybe you enjoy the new direction the show has taken, but that is beside the point.

The fact of the matter is that season 3 of House has a far different dynamic than the first two. Maybe you enjoy the new direction the show has taken, but that is beside the point.
Everyone I know is loving this season, which is the fourth not the third by the way. Is it different than the previous ones? Definitely. Is it worse? This fan says no way.

House is not the show it was the first three years.

I am still waiting for a more serious/dramatic episode this season. We haven't seen one yet.

I agree, there hasn't been a real standout, Emmy-quality episode this season such as the one's noted earlier in this thread. I'm still waiting for that "wow, that was damn good" episode this season, and so far, it's been pretty unmemorable. Well, the Cuddy panty episode was memorable, but outstanding, well written TV it was not. :p

By the same logic, The Phantom Menace was an improvement over The Empire Strikes Back since it made more money.

The fact of the matter is that successful franchises have inertia and fans of the franchise are slow to abandon it no matter how severe the decline in quality.

House would have been canceled half way through the first season if the episodes from this season had opened the series. The series is now cashing in on it's inertia rather and enhancing it.I'm not making any judgement on whether the series has gotten better or worst this season, just pointing out that it's maintaining its ratings, which is all that matters to the people who make it. They could not realistically hope that it would do any better with the television public than it's done this season.

As a thumbnail indication, the crowd at TV.com is still loving it in their scoring of it; every episode of this season has been rated 9+ out of 10 (see this (http://www.tv.com/house/show/22374/episode_listings.html?season=4&tag=nav_bar;4)). Season 2 of Heroes has faltered in the ratings and its reflected in how its scoring with users at that site (here (http://www.tv.com/heroes/show/17552/episode_listings.html?season=2&tag=nav_bar;2)). The crowd at IMDb has been a little more critical of it, but they're still rating it high (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0412142/epdate) episode-by-episode through this season. (I am by no means making any claim that either group is an accurate reflection of the viewing public at large).

I'm sorry that you're not enjoying it, but that doesn't mean that it hasn't been generally well liked.

House is not the show it was the first three years.

I am still waiting for a more serious/dramatic episode this season. We haven't seen one yet.

It's not the show it was the first three years, and IMO, it's been a timely shift. The formula does get a bit old, and last year, I thought, was a demonstration of how the show had done all it could with its standard, original formula.

In season 3, the Tritter investigation went on too long and made no sense. Also, the House character became less tolerable. To me, the most redeeming quality of last season was the continued development of House's relationship with Wilson.

As a watcher from day one, I believe that this has been an interesting and amusing start to the season. It has evolved, and apparently the competition is over. I'm fine with that and look forward to watching House work with the new team without them scrambling for the lead in a competition.

To me, the only real downside to this season is their inability to figure out what to do with the original team. It may have been better if they had just left completely.

I think they kept the original cast around so they didn't alienate the viewers that where really attached to them. But I agree, I think a clean break would of been better. This show is about House, his staff is a small part of it, we watch it for Hugh not his staff.

I definitely don't watch it to see Hugh's staff.

I definitely don't watch it to see Hugh's staff.

Double entendre city! Nicely done. :D

Double entendre city! Nicely done. :D

:)

I don't think there is enough love interest on the show. I'm thinking something between 13 and Cameron. Who's with me? :D

YOU SICK BASTARD!!!

Count me in!!:D:D

I agree, there hasn't been a real standout, Emmy-quality episode this season such as the one's noted earlier in this thread. I'm still waiting for that "wow, that was damn good" episode this season, and so far, it's been pretty unmemorable. Well, the Cuddy panty episode was memorable, but outstanding, well written TV it was not. :p

When it comes to ratings, though, it is better for appeal to be broad than deep.

I dunno. I liked the competition, but it got almost to the point of being a meta-narrative, as House himself openly discussed things that are basic television writing and production viewpoints. Nothing against breaking down the fourth wall, but it shouldn't be an overt and constant thing.

Overall, while House is a clear medical procedural, I never took the procedural aspect to be more than a gateway to House hurling various abuses and observations at people. The competition just gave him a chance to hurl abuses for a different reason.

...Overall, while House is a clear medical procedural, I never took the procedural aspect to be more than a gateway to House hurling various abuses and observations at people. The competition just gave him a chance to hurl abuses for a different reason.

That also accounts for part of my distaste for the new direction. House's barbs were aimed at very deep and very personal associations/afflictions within the old team, ala the one about Cameron making her way though the entire staff. While the punchline is still meaningful in regard to Wilson and Cuddy, the jokes hold no value whatsoever when directed at shallow strangers like Kumar and friends.

In case anyone is interested in an opinion of House from the medical community - in their November 2007 newsletter, the Medical Board of California reviewed an episode of House and came up with a list of "concerns" - violations which would likely lead to his licence being revoked, including narcotic addiction, theft, forgery, extortion, physician assisted suicide, etc. Their bottom line is that while it usually has worked out OK for House, these behaviors would usualy end up in a bad outcome, namely the patient being harmed. I find the show and the character to be a great source of entertainment, but I'm not sure I'd want him to be my doctor.

Here is the link to the newsletter in pdf format:

http://www.medbd.ca.gov/publications/newsletter_2007_11.pdf

If that doesn't work, just go to the Medical Board's homepage:

http://www.medbd.ca.gov/

and there is a link to the November 2007 newsletter.

[The article starts on page 4. I tried to cut and paste but it seems to be some sort of a protected pdf file - at least protected from someone with my (lack of) tech saavy.]

^ Dude, all realism is lost as soon as they show the patient rooms and offices all with clear class walls.

Most don't watch for the medical realism.

At least one state out of 50 is looking out for us...

In case anyone is interested in an opinion of House from the medical community

I doubt many people are. I think anyone who thinks House is realistic shouldn't be allowed to watch TV.

In case anyone is interested in an opinion of House from the medical community - in their November 2007 newsletter, the Medical Board of California reviewed an episode of House and came up with a list of "concerns" - violations which would likely lead to his licence being revoked, including narcotic addiction, theft, forgery, extortion, physician assisted suicide, etc. Their bottom line is that while it usually has worked out OK for House, these behaviors would usualy end up in a bad outcome, namely the patient being harmed. I find the show and the character to be a great source of entertainment, but I'm not sure I'd want him to be my doctor.I enjoyed that article. What was interesting is that the guy who wrote it knew a few physicians in real life whom he'd compare to House, none of whom were reported by their fully-aware colleagues while they continued to be successful in their treatment of their patients; the plug was only pulled on them after one of their patients got hurt due to their reckless tactics, so apparently House isn't so unrealistic after all. Interesting.

^ Dude, all realism is lost as soon as they show the patient rooms and offices all with clear class walls.

Somebody hasn't spent much time in an ICU, I see. :)

Somebody hasn't spent much time in an ICU, I see. :)

Aren't the glass walls why they call it an I-See-You?

House was voted most popular show on TV by a poll from Yahoo users: http://tv.yahoo.com/slideshow/190/photos/2

Not a huge user base for this kind of poll, but it did pretty well in the voting.

I originally wrote this show off as another stupid episodic medical drama...boy was I wrong!

Just finished the first two seasons in about 2 weeks...I'm loving it. Hugh Laurie is great and this has easily become one of my favorite shows...I'm pissed that I didn't watch it from the beginning...

I originally wrote this show off as another stupid episodic medical drama...boy was I wrong!

Just finished the first two seasons in about 2 weeks...I'm loving it. Hugh Laurie is great and this has easily become one of my favorite shows...I'm pissed that I didn't watch it from the beginning...

Quit watching after Season 3...otherwise the love affair is sadly over. :(

Quit watching after Season 3...otherwise the love affair is sadly over. :(
Says you. This House fan, who has been watching since the beginning, loves season 4. It would appear that most other House fans agree, as well.

Says you. This House fan, who has been watching since the beginning, loves season 4. It would appear that most other House fans agree, as well.

This House fan thinks that there is some truth to Spyder's comments, although I have not given up on the show entirely....yet.

Quit watching after Season 3...otherwise the love affair is sadly over. :(

Season 4 actually got me watching...I started watching the new episodes and am now going back to watch the whole series...;)

Says you. This House fan, who has been watching since the beginning, loves season 4. It would appear that most other House fans agree, as well.

+1!!!

Season 3, with Tritter and House's even further over-the-top boorish behavior and nastiness made that the hardest season for this from-the-beginning fan. Other than not knowing what to do with the original team, I consider season 4 to be a rebound of sorts.

Season 4 actually got me watching...I started watching the new episodes and am now going back to watch the whole series...;)

Since you have a unique perspective (as most of us have watched since the beginning) I'd like to hear your opinion: How do the Season 1/Season 2* episodes stack up against the current ones for you?

*Or even Season 3 if you've gotten that far since your last post.

I originally wrote this show off as another stupid episodic medical drama...boy was I wrong!

Just finished the first two seasons in about 2 weeks...I'm loving it. Hugh Laurie is great and this has easily become one of my favorite shows...I'm pissed that I didn't watch it from the beginning...

you and me both.

Since you have a unique perspective (as most of us have watched since the beginning) I'd like to hear your opinion: How do the Season 1/Season 2* episodes stack up against the current ones for you?

*Or even Season 3 if you've gotten that far since your last post.

I feel the show stays VERY consistent over the course of the series. Season 3 is starting to become repetitive but I'm still enjoying it (4 episodes in). I definitely liked the first 10 episodes of Season 4 more than Season 3...but I'm also watching it in a very condensed period of time...so my judgment might be very skewed.

New episode tonight, yes? :)

Oh yeah! :D

Maybe we will find out the really big mystery: what is "13"'s real name!

Can't fracking wait!

Guess that one was left over from last year ;)

Kinda weird watching a Christmas ep at the end of January...looks like the next two are more on schedule...

Good ep though...

Guess that one was left over from last year ;)

Kinda weird watching a Christmas ep at the end of January...looks like the next two are more on schedule...

Good ep though...

Yes, good episode....loved the ending.

Yet the question lingers: why the opening credits still give star billing to Chase and Cameron when she didn't even utter one word during the show.

Yet the question lingers: why the opening credits still give star billing to Chase and Cameron when she didn't even utter one word during the show.

Good agent? No, strike that... a great agent :D

My guess is because I don't see the "new docs" lasting, personally.

My guess is because I don't see the "new docs" lasting, personally.

you think the old team is coming back together?

I'd be all for it...I don't think the new ones have as much chemistry and maybe they are playing up on that idea just to show us how great the original team really was. And they should make Jenny Morrison go back to dark hair...the blonde is just too cheap and cheesey for her....

... And they should make Jenny Morrison go back to dark hair...the blonde is just too cheap and cheesey for her....

I agree, its not flattering at all.

But the new brunette is breathtaking. (we need a smily with a pounding heart)

And they should make Jenny Morrison go back to dark hair...the blonde is just too cheap and cheesey for her....The blonde's her natural color. She dyed her hair for the first couple of seasons.

Gotta love these little "slip -in" barbs!

Kumar-"You should try bondage"

"House- "I have she just whined and complained about how hard it was being Dean of Medicine"


or something like that!

So was House's clinic patient really a prostitute? She never really said yes or no. She just let him make his judgements.

Gotta love these little "slip -in" barbs!

Kumar-"You should try bondage"

"House- "I have she just whined and complained about how hard it was being Dean of Medicine"


or something like that!


:D:D:D

Did Cutty show up? Don't remember seeing her.

So was House's clinic patient really a prostitute? She never really said yes or no. She just let him make his judgements.

No, she was part of the church show and the necklace was prolly just something special to her.

Just house thinking the worst of people as always...

The blonde's her natural color. She dyed her hair for the first couple of seasons.Not that blonde--it's still a dye job. She's stated that it's a shade lighter than her natural color. She did it for some TV movie (The Murder of Princess Diana). Of course, it's probably closer to her natural color than the various shades of brunette she's been wearing for years before House :).

No, she was part of the church show and the necklace was prolly just something special to her.

Just house thinking the worst of people as always...

I was distracted by a phone call from my dad, so I saw here in the clinic when House was talking to her originally and didn't know the background for when she came back in. So, I assume everyone had their minds in the gutter with House's comment when she was in the second time... :rolleyes:

So, who was that anyway? She looked like Tracy Gold.

No, she was part of the church show and the necklace was prolly just something special to her.
Or she was a prostitute who might not have told the members of her church. FWIW, Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Nicholas) also lists St. Nick as the patron saint of students and the falsely accused.


And some reasons to support the contention that she was a prostitute:
1) House thought she was after their first meeting.
2) She had AIDS testing every three months.
3) After House ruled out almost everyone St. Nick was the patron saint for, she noted that there were two he left out (children and prostitutes) and made the point that she wasn't a child.
4) Would House really trek through the snow to see an ordinary clinic patient in a play? Probably not, but to see a prostitute playing Mary, mother of God, in a church's Nativity reenactment? Maybe.

Maybe we will find out the really big mystery: what is "13"'s real name!

Funny thing is that on IMDB, they list Olivia Wilde's character name on House as "13"!

So, who was that anyway? She looked like Tracy Gold.

From what i've found searching around, I think her name is Jennifer Hall

Yahoo TV (http://tv.yahoo.com/jennifer-hall/contributor/477311/photos/1;_ylt=AneZynjs9oHtLx92FHR2od..o9EF)

Edit in:

Her IMDB profile (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0355711/) pretty much confirms it based on the pictures...

Did Cutty show up? Don't remember seeing her.She had a really small part. She was there when House came out of his first clinic visit from the blonde chick. She asked him for $50 for the nurses present or something like that.

Funny thing is that on IMDB, they list Olivia Wilde's character name on House as "13"!

There's gotta be an inside joke with the writers in there somewhere.

Did Cutty show up? Don't remember seeing her.

She was in the scene where House complained that his new hires don't fear him, so something had to be done.

Gotta love these little "slip -in" barbs!

Kumar-"You should try bondage"

"House- "I have she just whined and complained about how hard it was being Dean of Medicine"


or something like that!

"Do you do a donkey show? I'm not curious - it matters."

"It's a donkey or a mule... I can hardly remember."

Followed by one hell of a snarky look:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2330/2230405073_06796a04b4_o.jpg

From what i've found searching around, I think her name is Jennifer Hall

Yahoo TV (http://tv.yahoo.com/jennifer-hall/contributor/477311/photos/1;_ylt=AneZynjs9oHtLx92FHR2od..o9EF)

Edit in:

Her IMDB profile (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0355711/) pretty much confirms it based on the pictures...

Thanks!

Oh, and FSugino, keep posting images when you feel like it. I like screen caps!

She was also in Nip/Tuck last season as the baby sitter that Sean was messing with and died in a pedestrian accident.

She was also in Nip/Tuck last season as the baby sitter that Sean was messing with and died in a pedestrian accident.

That's right! I have seen maybe three episodes of Nip/Tuck and I do remember seeing her on there.

House: Where are we going?
Wilson: Nowhere, I just know it hurts you.

:p:D

Some great lines last night, and I thought the PQ was particularly good as well.

Unfortunately, I missed last night’s new episode because of my own stupidity. I had inadvertently given a higher priority to my TiVo season pass for Law & Order on TNT HD than I had given House. Thus, the new House episode did not record. I had failed to take into account that TNT runs those old Law & Order episodes all day every day, or so it seems. Needless to say, Law & Order on TNT HD has now been placed last on my Season Pass list. Were it not for this thread, there’s no telling when I might have figured all of this out, so thanks to all for the heads up.

House: Where are we going?
Wilson: Nowhere, I just know it hurts you.

:p:D

Some great lines last night, and I thought the PQ was particularly good as well.

I forgot about that one, I was rolling :)

Well. What a discombobulated mess last night was. A Christmas episode in late January, Cuddy and Wilson pretty much written out, Dr. Plastic trying to act like a real person, our Cameron clone acting even more like the bitchy side of her predecessor, and, as always, Kumar dropping ill-timed and poorly delivered gags that are about as amusing as a root canal. :(

The fact that the next episode is on right after the Super Bowl rather than the set time conjures images of a cancer patient that has fallen victim to their own demise via too much excess...pleading to be heard, begging to be cured, looking for absolution from the world, desperate to turn back the hands of time and change their fate. Alas, unless an infectious disease claims the lives of all the newcomers in one fell swoop, and House can't come up with a cure, we're left with caviar covered in manure. :(

There is a bright side, however. :) Despite the enormous, crippling handicap of the talentless new cast members, House (Laurie) was once again fantastic last night. His private moments with the "prostitute" and the daughter remind us, once again, just why we tune in and what keeps this show afloat amidst the perilous flood of lackluster performances. There should be a special award for "Best Actor that Single-Handedly Saves a Show when Paired with a Bunch of Hacks." Laurie wins, hands down, in an absolute landslide. :D

There is a bright side, however. :) Despite the enormous, crippling handicap of the talentless new cast members, House (Laurie) was once again fantastic last night. His private moments with the "prostitute" and the daughter remind us, once again, just why we tune in and what keeps this show afloat amidst the perilous flood of lackluster performances. There should be a special award for "Best Actor that Single-Handedly Saves a Show when Paired with a Bunch of Hacks." Laurie wins, hands down, in an absolute landslide. :D
I don’t much like the actors who play the young docs, either, and that includes the original trio. I do, however, think highly of Lisa Edelstein as Cuddy and Robert Sean Leonard as Wilson. They are worthy foils for Laurie’s prodigious talent. Maybe we just don’t like young actors. :)

House: Where are we going?
Wilson: Nowhere, I just know it hurts you.

:p:D

Some great lines last night, and I thought the PQ was particularly good as well.

Funny, I thought exactly the same thing regarding the PQ. It seemed noticeably improved for some reason.

And yes, plenty of good lines last night.

I have to say, however, that I am really getting beyond tired of House's epiphanies at the very end of the show. Frankly, I think it would have been a better episode if the patient was allowed to die, rather than discovering that she had a boob on the back of her leg! How was that missed previously, anyway? :rolleyes:

I was really enjoying the episode until the very end.

When I hear people waxing nostalgic over the old cast I have to shake my head.

Yes the first few seasons of House were superb as Chase, Cameron and Foreman's characters slowly grew from fearing House to openly questioning him but without a transition to a new crew this series in my opinion would die rather quickly. What would be the fun of House asking Cameron or Chase to do something extremely unethical or try to force them to do something they didn't want to do only to get the reply of "No" from them? They no longer fear House and that takes away the whole vibe of a Teacher/Student relationship to one of equals, which might sound good but would lead to some rather dull shows.

I personally think they should have just gotten rid of the old cast as opposed to letting them stick around to pick up a paycheck but given the popularity of the show that they were instrumental in creating I think it can be excused even if it brings us a few uncomfortable scenes each week.

As for the new crew I think the writers of the show have made them a little over the top but I am willing to give them a few episodes to settle down now that they no longer have to fear for their survival.

Looking forward to the next episode. Doesn't look like it will be following the usual House formula.

my 2c

Unfortunately, I missed last night’s new episode because of my own stupidity. I had inadvertently given a higher priority to my TiVo season pass for Law & Order on TNT HD than I had given House. Thus, the new House episode did not record. I had failed to take into account that TNT runs those old Law & Order episodes all day every day, or so it seems. Needless to say, Law & Order on TNT HD has now been placed last on my Season Pass list. Were it not for this thread, there’s no telling when I might have figured all of this out, so thanks to all for the heads up.

Check to see if they are going to re-run last nights episode on USA on Friday night (probably Feb 8 as they normally run them two weeks later).

I'm no doctor, but I found the medical premise of last night's show to be less believable than usual. Breast tissue on the leg, that produces milk, and that has become cancerous? Come On! Still love the show, though.

The breast tissue was caused to swell and produce milk by the drug that House gave her. That's why it wasn't spotted before and I'm fine with that, but wouldn't the drug take longer to act? Just how quickly can breast tissue produce milk?

For anyone else trying to place the "prostitute" she was one of the main characters on Unscripted on HBO a few years back. The series was about struggling actors taught by Frank Langella.

. Frankly, I think it would have been a better episode if the patient was allowed to die, rather than discovering that she had a boob on the back of her leg! How was that missed previously, anyway? :rolleyes:Remember, House guessed that there was some minute amount of misplaced cancerous breast tissue somewhere. He used risperidone (a popular antipsychotic) not to treat it, but because it has possible side effects of making breast tissue swollen and tender; this would enhance his chance of finding a small amount in an unusual place. It can also cause spontaneous lactation (galactorrhea); both are side-effects of the drug--it's primary action is to inhibits dopamine, which increases production of the hormone prolactin, which in turn induces lactation.

These side-effects of risperidone (and probably other antipsychotics, since I believe that they're all dopamine antagonists) probably take a while in real life--several days, I'd guess--and aren't certain to occur in any case, so it was a bit of a dramatization, but then, what medicine on House isn't dramatized :D?

I have a cool bit of pharmaceutical sales chotsky for the name brand risperdone prep, Risperdal; it's a fairly decent ballpoint pen with a mood ring around the barrel :).

Funny, I thought exactly the same thing regarding the PQ. It seemed noticeably improved for some reason.

And yes, plenty of good lines last night.

I have to say, however, that I am really getting beyond tired of House's epiphanies at the very end of the show. Frankly, I think it would have been a better episode if the patient was allowed to die, rather than discovering that she had a boob on the back of her leg! How was that missed previously, anyway? :rolleyes:

I was really enjoying the episode until the very end.

I agree, in fact, I thought the patient was going to die, I think it would have been a better ending that way given the focus of the whole episode, honesty, secrets and lies.

One thing I liked about the episode was the fake-out at the beginning about who the patient was going to be. They'd done that once before, with the swimmer but generally the episodes all start the same---someone starts complaining of an injury and they're the patient. This time, the girl had the calf problem and was feeling sick and we were supposed to think she was the patient and then it turns out to be the mom.

(BTW: As a climber, I couldn't help wincing when her mom dropped her...)

One thing I liked about the episode was the fake-out at the beginning about who the patient was going to be. They'd done that once before, with the swimmer but generally the episodes all start the same---someone starts complaining of an injury and they're the patient.

I thought exactly the opposite. I was groaning at the misdirection because they've done it countless times now.

If they want to break from formula, just start the show with the hospital. I don't care at this stage how the patients get there and most of the time the setup is irrelevant anyway.

I thought exactly the opposite. I was groaning at the misdirection because they've done it countless times now.Really? I could think of the two---this one and the swimmer.

Really? I could think of the two---this one and the swimmer.

They did the wheelchair guy who was in the middle of the road and was setup to look like he was going to get hit by a car. The kid in a classroom with the nosebleed who felt dizzy ... but then another girl falls down and starts convulsing. The woman who gets fake-raped only to have the attacker (husband/boyfriend?) become ill with something mysterious.

Those are just the ones I can vaguely remember but there's much more than that by now.

The scenario usually runs like this:

"Mom, ow my arm feels funny"
<cue tense music>
"let me take a look ... nnnghhhh"
<brain hemorrhage>
"Mommy wake up!"

I knew Television Without Pity would have something about this.

Here's a good one I found from season two which sums it up:

A crying baby wakes its tired father up at 6:20 in the morning. That's it -- I'm never having kids. He gets dressed and heads for the bathroom, where he almost barfs in the sick while washing his face. But when his wife, holding the baby, come in and ask him if he's feeling okay, he says that he's just fighting off a stomach bug, and also tries to trick us during this Pre-Credits Sequence of Doom. The rules dictate that someone who is obviously sick in the beginning of the PCSoD will not be the Patient of the Week. Mom, named Kara, runs some bathwater, and complains that baby Michael and his colic kept her up all night. Kara asks her husband, Brent, to take the day off from work to spend some time with his wife and son, but he says that he can't afford to miss work. He kisses his wife and son, and heads off to work.

But on his way down the stairs, Brent gets dizzy, stumbles, and then barfs. Pleasant. He returns to the apartment, where he finds Kara having some kind of seizure in the tub -- soap bubbles placed strategically over her private areas -- and, worse, that their son has turned into a doll and has sunk to the bottom of the bathtub.

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/Shows/House/Stories/Take-Your-Vitamins

One thing I liked about the episode was the fake-out at the beginning about who the patient was going to be. They'd done that once before
Once before? Have you only seen two episodes of the show? I'm surprised when they don't do a fake out at the beginning. It's almost as old and stale as House figuring out the problem right at the end.

Check to see if they are going to re-run last nights episode on USA on Friday night (probably Feb 8 as they normally run them two weeks later).
If I have to watch it in SD, the easiest way will probably be to go to Fox's Web site and watch it there. Earlier today, Fox had not yet made it available but I assume that it will be before long. Nevertheless, thanks for the suggestion.

Once before? Have you only seen two episodes of the show? I'm surprised when they don't do a fake out at the beginning. It's almost as old and stale as House figuring out the problem right at the end.

One week they should have a show with absolutely no medical emergency at all.

Maybe House and Wilson are traveling across country for a boring conference. Kind of like Planes, Trains and Automobiles except when the car breaks down House has to diagnose the engine and Wilson has to think of ways to get to their destination that involve running and climbing.

If I have to watch it in SD, the easiest way will probably be to go to Fox's Web site and watch it there. Earlier today, Fox had not yet made it available but I assume that it will be before long. Nevertheless, thanks for the suggestion.There's an 8-day delay between original broadcast and availability at Fox's online "On Demand" service. Because of the special Super Sunday one, two new episodes will air before last night's shows up there.

As some one who has recently watched all 4 seasons, I can assure you that the "fake-out" opening has happened more than twice in the show's lifetime ;)

It happens too often, personally, to the point that the fake-out itself is way too predictable.

If I have to watch it in SD, ...

I think USA HD actually shows House in HD. :)

Question: If anyone knows. Will this Sunday's episode start at a fixed time, or at a certain interval after the end of the Super Bowl?

Question: If anyone knows. Will this Sunday's episode start at a fixed time, or at a certain interval after the end of the Super Bowl?

No way can they predict an actual time for the show to air if House is the event that "immediately" follows the SB. The start time of our beloved House all depends on how many people Brady wishes to thank in his speech after accepting the MVP award and/or how many Dolphins fans they show contemplating suicide.

I think USA HD actually shows House in HD. :)

Yes it does

Question: If anyone knows. Will this Sunday's episode start at a fixed time, or at a certain interval after the end of the Super Bowl?Neither. It's scheduled for an estimated time.

The game itself is an unknown length and the post-game celebration/press conference/etc will be of an unknown length.

No way can they predict an actual time for the show to air if House is the event that "immediately" follows the SB. The start time of our beloved House all depends on how many people Brady wishes to thank in his speech after accepting the MVP award and/or how many Dolphins fans they show contemplating suicide.

I thought the Dolphins fans already committed suicide after this dismal season...

I thought the Dolphins fans already committed suicide after this dismal season...

Dismal season? What are you talking about? They won a game!

;)

How utterly stupid that this was a Christmas episode. They clearly held it back from airing in Dec. due to the strike and now airing it on 1/29, it just looks stupid and out of place.

How utterly stupid that this was a Christmas episode. They clearly held it back from airing in Dec. due to the strike and now airing it on 1/29, it just looks stupid and out of place.
Now that there's virtually no new episodes left for most series, the networks just might start to see the implications of the strike. Did the networks really think it would be "business as usual" without the writers??:confused:

It happens too often, personally, to the point that the fake-out itself is way too predictable.

I'm not so sure. I think if you tallied up all the episodes, you'd find that they go about 50-50, fake out to not fake out. Of course, it's complicated by the fact that they sometimes do a double fake out.

Who all is excited for tonight's new episode following the Super Bowl?; I can tell you already, that House is the winner today:-)

Who all is excited for tonight's new episode following the Super Bowl?; I can tell you already, that House is the winner today:-)

Here is a teaser frame from tonight's episode:

http://vidiot.com/House/images/House-080203.png

Mira Sorvino!

They probably won't be running it here in the Boston area, at least not tonight anyways.

Mira Sorvino!

OK, does this mean that you are surprised that Mira is in the episode, or that you are happy to see that she is in the episode?

They probably won't be running it here in the Boston area, at least not tonight anyways.

And why do you say that, since Fox is running the episode after the game?

And why do you say that, since Fox is running the episode after the game?Because FOX 25 will probably run post SuperBowl related programming regardless of what happens. They certainly will if they win the game.

OK, does this mean that you are surprised that Mira is in the episode, or that you are happy to see that she is in the episode?The post title does have a telling "thumbs up" icon :rolleyes:.

Because FOX 25 will probably run post SuperBowl related programming regardless of what happens. They certainly will if they win the game.

Oh, that's right, your team is one of the contenders.

Ufortunately, if your station delays the airing of the episode, they won't be able to air it in HD, since they have zero access to the feed (unless they've connected a computer to capture it :D ) They might be able to get Fox net to feed it just for them on one of the HD streams. But, I suspect that Fox would charge a bundle to do that.

The post title does have a telling "thumbs up" icon :rolleyes:.

Definitely, Mira Sorvino has always been one of my favorites. Fell in love with her after seeing "The Replacement Killers".:)

The post title does have a telling "thumbs up" icon :rolleyes:.

Yes, but that didn't tell me if he knew beforehand that she was in the episode or not. Some people don't discover who is in an episode until they see that person in the episode.

What a welcome return for the Cutthroat Bitch!

Cutthroat Bitch! Didn't see that coming...

Cool episode...I liked the break in the format

Also notice the "Fake-Me-Out" opening ;)

Just caught the end...what's with the "His best friend's leaving him" comment? Please tell me Wilson isn't leaving the show.

Just caught the end...what's with the "His best friend's leaving him" comment? Please tell me Wilson isn't leaving the show.

No, not leaving the show... but he's spending his time with his new sweetheart. See the previous messages about CTB.

Just caught the end...what's with the "His best friend's leaving him" comment? Please tell me Wilson isn't leaving the show.

Best friend finds girlfriend.... best friend spends most of his time with girlfriend.... no more best friend. How many times I've been there...... :(

We shoulda known they wouldn't throw away a great character like CTB.
Of couse she's totally using Wilson to get back at House.

Great use of Mira Sorvino's assets in this ep.

This has to be one of the best episodes of the season. I hope Mira is back, she and House have chemistry. i loved the way she cut through all his crap, and basically said he was OK. I want more!

Interesting move bringing back Cut Throat Bitch. Should be something to watch CTB and House fight for Wilson's attention. Since they are so similar...

Definitely, Mira Sorvino has always been one of my favorites. Fell in love with her after seeing "The Replacement Killers".:)I've loved her since Mimic :). She was excellent in this role as well.

Yes, but that didn't tell me if he knew beforehand that she was in the episode or not. Some people don't discover who is in an episode until they see that person in the episode.True, but you asked whether he was surprised or happy to see her. I was merely pointing out that he was obviously happy to see her, whether he was surprised or not.

Best episode of the season. I laughed more at this than any so far.

Wilson's comedic timing is still impeccable. When House was going through the names of people that Wilson could be dating, I loved how Wilson added at the end "and your mama"! :D

True, but you asked whether he was surprised or happy to see her. I was merely pointing out that he was obviously happy to see her, whether he was surprised or not.

Point taken. Bad phrasing of the question led to the results that I got.

Best episode of the season. I laughed more at this than any so far.

Then it probably isn't going to be beat, considering that Tuesday's episode is the last of the season.

So did anything notable happen after CTB showed up? My local affiliate appeared to be in a bit of a hurry to break to commercial and the local news.

So did anything notable happen after CTB showed up? My local affiliate appeared to be in a bit of a hurry to break to commercial and the local news.

Well, she showed up and House pointed at her and said "Cutthroat Bitch?" Wilson replied that he called her Amber. Then Wilson asked if she was on his list... end of episode.

Very interesting episode, saw House a bit of a different side of House dealing his patient.

Loved the end with CTB showing up for the date with Wilson. Too bad that Tuesday's episode is the last one completed. I'd love to see the story line and where it goes.

"I can't get cable but I get the South Pole in HD"

I was LOLing pretty good at that one

I loved Kutner's kissing House's ass by firmly standing up to him :D.

Does anyone know if doctors have a data system where they can enter all the symptoms and it'll pop out the most likely diagnosis?

"I can't get cable but I get the South Pole in HD"

I was LOLing pretty good at that one

That was really funny:)

Dr. Cameron: "I am not giving you cable. You're gonna have to somehow survive with the broadcast networks alone."
House: "I'll be fine on Tuesdays."


House: "Carlson won't listen to me since I hit on his wife."
Dr. Cameron: "You knew?"
House: "God no, I thought I was hitting on his daughter."

Yeah, we're in it for the slapstick comedy. :)

Does anyone know if doctors have a data system where they can enter all the symptoms and it'll pop out the most likely diagnosis?
Lots of programs. An early application of so-called artificial intelligence. Mostly just if...then programming, interviewing lots of specialists. -- John

Wilson running away from House to go to his lunch date... that one had me laughing for a while.

Then it probably isn't going to be beat, considering that Tuesday's episode is the last of the season.

Not necessarily...not if the strike ends this week, as is being reported.

Amazing. THIS is how you do an episode of House! Delegating the gag-inducing peons to two lines each and letting House do his thing was an absolutely brilliant move by the writers on this one. Rekindling the comedic gold between Wilson and House was just the "shot in the arm" that this season needed. There were so many punch lines that it was hard to keep up. Subtleties that have been missing this year, like the "romantic" music playing during the physical via webcam, were greatly appreciated. House giving us a yet another small look into his soul, along with the character development points involving Wilson and House's secretive pasts/presents from each other, all brought back memories of better days. The fact that they're bringing back CutThroatBitch is inspiring, as she was the only remotely interesting newcomer that showed even a hint of talent.

An excellent episode. That makes a grand total of two this season.

Bits and pieces of last night's show reminded me of why I got hooked on House two years ago. My favorite House of all time is still the episode where he's in the lecture hall, and people slowly fill up the hall while he tells the story of his leg (in the third person).

What I didn't understand is why they didn't get a doctor in from McMurdo. That's a big installation and they've got to have at least one full time physician, even in the winter.

Well, she showed up and House pointed at her and said "Cutthroat Bitch?" Wilson replied that he called her Amber. Then Wilson asked if she was on his list... end of episode.

Thanks :)

What I didn't understand is why they didn't get a doctor in from McMurdo. That's a big installation and they've got to have at least one full time physician, even in the winter.

Actually, the story line was "ripped from the headlines" (to a certain extent.) There was a doctor trapped in a similar situation not too long ago (self diagnosed breast cancer if I recall correctly.)

What I didn't understand is why they didn't get a doctor in from McMurdo.

That is easy. It isn't real life and would have screwed up the story line!! ;)

Does anyone know if doctors have a data system where they can enter all the symptoms and it'll pop out the most likely diagnosis?Sure, there are several systems. Just google "differential diagnosis ai" and you should find a few papers online about them. It's an obvious medical research topic.

When such an AI is capable of competently taking a patient history using artificial speech and voice recognition, the technology will have arrived :).

My favorite House of all time is still the episode where he's in the lecture hall, and people slowly fill up the hall while he tells the story of his leg (in the third person).
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So AVSForum is adopting the imaginary point system we can give each other when we like their posts? Sweet. :D

I loved that episode. sweet stuff. Hope the writers will get back to work and pump out a few more episodes. This episode has me giddy for Tuesdays episode. (havnt felt like that since awaiting the season premiere this year.)

It is fun to see Wilson get the better of House.

Come to think of it, the shrink did too.

I hope Mira Sorvino had a foot body double as those feet were nasty.

I hope Mira Sorvino had a foot body double as those feet were nasty.

Don't care...for a 40 year old woman, the rest of her body was in prime-early-30s shape...

Don't care...for a 40 year old woman, the rest of her body was in prime-early-30s shape...

Yup, I thought she looked spectacular.

Yup, I thought she looked spectacular.

I had to go look up her age because I was shocked by how well she has aged....I remember watching her in Mimic and The Replacement Killers when I was in Middle School...(not too long ago ;))

Blah. It was a so so episode. Fell asleep during the broadcast.