Blah. It was a so so episode. Fell asleep during the broadcast.

:eek: Wow. If last nights ep was only so-so for you, then the rest of this season (excluding the first ep, before the new gang of talentless bit players showed up) must have been like a root canal. Sorry to hear it.

Blah. It was a so so episode. Fell asleep during the broadcast.

you must have been tired - this should be in the top 10 episodes of all time

:eek: Wow. If last nights ep was only so-so for you, then the rest of this season (excluding the first ep, before the new gang of talentless bit players showed up) must have been like a root canal. Sorry to hear it.

I have to agree.

The interesting thing about this is the fact that many of us consider this to have been the best episode of the season, and where were the new cast members? They were pretty much MIA as House had them off trying to get his cable back. A weak excuse to pretty much push them aside for the majority of the episode, giving (thankfully) more screen time to Wilson and Foreman.

It tells me that the new cast isn't really working out too well.

Blah. It was a so so episode. Fell asleep during the broadcast.

Come on - how can you not love an episode where House is completely stupefied?

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Not necessarily...not if the strike ends this week, as is being reported.

True. With House it might be easier to ramp up. Special effects requirements are pretty much nill. There are 10 episodes that need to be done to fill a 22 episode season. How many scripts are in the pipeline for completion. How long before the first script can be completed, shot, edited and made ready for air? How far will this push the end of the season?

All of these questions have to be answered by the production company and the network.

I believe that House has a good chance of finishing their season at the end of May sweeps. Not so shows like Smallville, which has lots of special effects post production.

Fox is already calling the last episode of Prison Break as its winter finale (network spin).

While I definately shows back on the air.... a part of me worries that script writing will be rushed, resulting in scripts that will result in viewers going WTF? Will quality be affected? I hope not, but the potential is there.

True. With House it might be easier to ramp up. Special effects requirements are pretty much nill. There are 10 episodes that need to be done to fill a 22 episode season. How many scripts are in the pipeline for completion. How long before the first script can be completed, shot, edited and made ready for air? How far will this push the end of the season?

All of these questions have to be answered by the production company and the network.

I believe that House has a good chance of finishing their season at the end of May sweeps. Not so shows like Smallville, which has lots of special effects post production.

Fox is already calling the last episode of Prison Break as its winter finale (network spin).

While I definately shows back on the air.... a part of me worries that script writing will be rushed, resulting in scripts that will result in viewers going WTF? Will quality be affected? I hope not, but the potential is there.

If the writers' strike ends, just put the actors together (as characters House and Wilson) in a room all alone and tell the writers to take a nap. You end up with comedic gold and they can then worry about drawing up the next ep in which all the newbs get killed off by a plague, thus saving the season and setting us up for a phenomenal next year.

I have to agree.

The interesting thing about this is the fact that many of us consider this to have been the best episode of the season, and where were the new cast members? They were pretty much MIA as House had them off trying to get his cable back. A weak excuse to pretty much push them aside for the majority of the episode, giving (thankfully) more screen time to Wilson and Foreman.

It tells me that the new cast isn't really working out too well.

Yep.

This was for sure a "Meh" episode...I lost interest pretty early on.

The interesting thing about this is the fact that many of us consider this to have been the best episode of the season, and where were the new cast members? They were pretty much MIA as House had them off trying to get his cable back. (...) It tells me that the new cast isn't really working out too well.By that argument, Chase and Cameron (and even Cuddy) aren't working out too well, either.

This was a House/Wilson/Foreman episode.

By that argument, Chase and Cameron (and even Cuddy) aren't working out too well, either.

This was a House/Wilson/Foreman episode.

House/Wilson/Foreman are the 3 best characters (and actors) on the show. Cuddy would be next in line. So yeah, give those 3 more screen time than the others, and you should have a better than average show most of the time...especially when you throw an Academy Award winning actress in as a guest role.

Chase and Cameron would still be better than the new cast members. Their current roles are a joke though.

House/Wilson/Foreman are the 3 best characters (and actors) on the show. Cuddy would be next in line.

Chase and Cameron would still be better than the new cast members. Their current roles are a joke though.

So true. I would rather them be removed then be acting as they are.

If you missed the promo for tomorrow's episode, during tonight's Terminator:tSCC, , here it is in its full HD glory:

http://mirror.vidiot.com/Misc/movie/House-promo-080205.mkv

Right-click and do a Save-As, so that your browser doesn't attempt to play it.

Use VLC to play it. Other programs also play the H.264 encoded video. Oh, the DD5.1 is intact as well.

Interesting episode tonight exploring whether change is possible, especially in House.

good all around episode and can actually act as a mini finale if the show is done for this season.

The Faith-Healer one is still a better religious-themed ep...

Also no fake-out tonight :)

No Cameron either :(

great episode. laura silvermen was impressive. i have always thought she was cuter then her sister. kumar has really grown on me the past few episodes. i think the whole bisexual thing for 13 was a desperate attempt by the writers to make her interesting.

who would of thought kumar would be the most likable newbie when this whole season started.

laura silvermen was impressive.

I had a crush on her voice, when she did regular voiceovers on Dr. Katz. ;)

No Cameron either :(
Good! It's unfortunate Chase had his role forced in there. I could have done without him as well.

Now that was a great episode of House. House/Wilson, Wilson/Cuddy, Cuddy/House, House/CTB :D.

Everything just seem to mesh a little better this episode.

We've had a couple of great episodes this week.

I really have enjoyed the curve that CTB had injected into the overall plot.

This was the last of the new Episodes, correct?

I read in HOTP that it would be 4-6 weeks for a scripted series to get new episodes back on the air once an agreement has been reached.

Hope this is not the last new house until the fall.

It was called the Season finale by TV.com, so yes, we don't have any more House, perhaps the whole year!!! OMG

We are so gonna forget everything by the time House comes back, they even forgot Cameron for this last episode and gave Chase plenty of lines..

I still am left with the question of whether or not Amber has really changed, or if it is just another CTB maneuver.

Peter,

I'm thinking that she changed, but will it stick.

In last night's and Sunday's episode, it looks like the writers were trying to make things more interesting by going after some of House's dyed in the wool beliefs.

:mad: Talk about going out with a whimper! :mad:

A mere 48 hours after the best ep of the season, we're right back to square one for the year: Desperate and pathetic attempts at making the newbs remotely interesting, forced humor, bad timing, incongruitous character actions, poor dialogue, Kumar scene-killers, and a medical case that required the brainpower of a mentally-challenged sea slug to figure out just 5 minutes in. Sad. :(

Even the Cutthroat Bitch plotline was so inert that it was difficult to find a single point of hope or joy in it. That's about as anti-climatic as it gets, despite the potential timebomb everyone was waiting (and banking) on. Why did they even bother lighting the fuse? :confused:

:) At least I'll be saving money this year, with Season 4 not joining the collection. :(

Peter,

I'm thinking that she changed, but will it stick.

In last night's and Sunday's episode, it looks like the writers were trying to make things more interesting by going after some of House's dyed in the wool beliefs.

...that and the "everybody lies" episode where the girl and her mom didn't (well, except for the whole it really isn't her biological daughter thing!)

I enjoyed this episode well enough, though it was clearly several notches below last weeks.

Loved the analogy of Wilson dating House.

peter,

That too was a great episode.

....someone pass Spidy a beer. Think he needs a little mellowing out.

:mad: Talk about going out with a whimper! :mad:

A mere 48 hours after the best ep of the season, we're right back to square one for the year: Desperate and pathetic attempts at making the newbs remotely interesting, forced humor, bad timing, incongruitous character actions, poor dialogue, Kumar scene-killers, and a medical case that required the brainpower of a mentally-challenged sea slug to figure out just 5 minutes in. Sad. :(

Even the Cutthroat Bitch plotline was so inert that it was difficult to find a single point of hope or joy in it. That's about as anti-climatic as it gets, despite the potential timebomb everyone was waiting (and banking) on. Why did they even bother lighting the fuse? :confused:

:) At least I'll be saving money this year, with Season 4 not joining the collection. :(

dude, calm down, you honestly seem either too devoted to the show or just can't stand supposed writing problems. Trying writing a episode see how you do.

I enjoyed both of these last two episodes about equally, which is to say quite a lot. I thought that Mira Sorvino was terrific in the Antarctica episode and her character’s interaction with House very entertaining. I also liked the humanity introduced into Cutthroat Bitch’s character and found the way it was written convincing. I’m going to miss House and hope that it comes back bye and bye.

If Cameron was fired, maybe that will open up room for CTB to come back as a regular.

dude, calm down, you honestly seem either too devoted to the show or just can't stand supposed writing problems. Trying writing a episode see how you do.
spyder696969 is completely out of touch with reality. Just let him be.

[QUOTE=spyder696969;13035212 ..That's about as anti-climatic as it gets, ... :([/QUOTE]

Yes, but any episode would be considered "anti-climatic" compared to one set in the South Pole.:D

Any episode with lots of House and Wilson dialog is good with me. I thought the South Pole episode was great (and not just because of Wilson running off), the second one pretty much typical House.

I haven't seen House popping pills this season...do you think they were asked to tone down his drug abuse? I don't remember anything happened at the end of Season 3 but maybe I'm forgetting something...he's still limping and in pain, but he's not dosing himself every 5 minutes...I miss that humor in House

I haven't seen House popping pills this season...do you think they were asked to tone down his drug abuse?

I don't think so. Sometime this week I saw a promo with House popping pills all through it and then the end credits had pill bottles raining down around it.

Could have been on USA however.

Could have been on USA however.
It may have been on USA too, but I saw it on Fox.

Great last two episodes.

The point at which House points out to Wilson he's dating him via CTB was extremely funny even if it's been done before by Seinfeld.

I thought the new team had by far their best episode but could have done without the whole bisexual thing (seemed forced) , same with the Chase flyby.

Here is a happy face to try and make up for the 12+ sad and angry faces that spyder decided to include in his post =) .... I don't think he likes the new team.

Seems to me the whole point of House relenting on CTB was that the Jewish patient DID change herself, and not as the result of some medical brain anomaly. It made House rethink his position that people don't change.

I don't think so. Sometime this week I saw a promo with House popping pills all through it and then the end credits had pill bottles raining down around it.

Could have been on USA however.

I saw that on Fox as well...but he still hasn't popped one pill this season...well at least since House returned for new episodes...I don't remember him popping pills before the break though

I thought the new team had by far their best episode but could have done without the whole bisexual thing (seemed forced) , same with the Chase flyby.

yeah. i just dont see how making 13 bisexual changes how she will be a doctor on the show. aside from being upset about the whole categories thing, its not like cameron's over compassion, chase's desperate need for approval, and Foreman's desperate need to be right and emotional disconnect.

being bisexual wont change how she is a doctor or make her character interesting. unless she beds cameron and chase. :D :D

Here is a happy face to try and make up for the 12+ sad and angry faces that spyder decided to include in his post =) .... I don't think he likes the new team.

Sorry. :) :confused: :eek: :mad: :rolleyes: :cool: :p ;) :D :(

I saw that on Fox as well...but he still hasn't popped one pill this season...well at least since House returned for new episodes...I don't remember him popping pills before the break though

he did this week. Sat on the bench in the corridor outside the office (could have been the Sunday episode) he took a quick handful.

Finally got around to seeing the last 2 episodes. Great stuff.

Fox announced today that there WILL be new episodes of House this season. The number has not been made public, but they will start -- in a new time period and day -- on Monday, April 28 at 9 PM ET/PT.

That's great news.
On another note, it seems to me that writing "House" would be the most difficult writing assignment on television - at least to do it well - what with the snappy reparte' and the medical knowledge necessary to make it a bit plausable.

Excellent! :cool:

Indeed!

Now all we need is an "Untalented Actors' Strike" and this season might be fully salvaged from the abyss.

So, they are going after CBS and their top rated Monday night shows? For me, with an early-prime showing of CBS, that just means I will have to skip CSI: Miami, but for most it means skipping "Two-and-a-half Men".

So, they are going after CBS and their top rated Monday night shows? For me, with an early-prime showing of CBS, that just means I will have to skip CSI: Miami, but for most it means skipping "Two-and-a-half Men".

There are viewers without DVRs?

There are viewers without DVRs?

Yes. For now. My wife just found out a few days ago that getting a DVR means you can record one thing while watching another. She didn't realize that it meant two tuners.

I asked her if she was serious, as I have told her before, but I guess it never sunk in before. She said that that may change her mind....

She likes Americas Next Top Model and she also likes American Idol, so it would be good for her to have two tuners!

Yes. For now. My wife just found out a few days ago that getting a DVR means you can record one thing while watching another. She didn't realize that it meant two tuners.Tell her that it also means that she can watch a recording of something else while recording two other things being broadcast now, which is how I'm usually doing it. I only occasionally watch live television anymore, since it annoys me not to be able to zap the ads.

There are viewers without DVRs?

had one but dish somehow couldn't give me one without some crippling problem or horribly annoying at least. SO I cancelled, I may get one of the otehr cable networks but then again most anything I'd want to watch can be downloaded or watched OTA. So maybe a DVR capable HTPC.

She likes Americas Next Top Model and she also likes American Idol, so it would be good for her to have two tuners!

How about two TVs, one with a regular recorder (maybe even tape) for Idol and watch ANTM on the other TV live, if you already have more than one TV and a VCR it could work.

If you have a cable box that's another issue lol...

Tell her that it also means that she can watch a recording of something else while recording two other things being broadcast now, which is how I'm usually doing it. I only occasionally watch live television anymore, since it annoys me not to be able to zap the ads.

That's what we do as well, for the most part. No better way to watch cable. People always incredulously ask me, "Do you really watch that much TV?" What they don't realize is that in the same time it takes them to watch 2 one-hour shows, I've watched nearly 4 hours of material.

The only difference is that I can't tell them; which new truck can tow 62 sumo wrestlers riding pregnant elephants, which new deoderant/beer makes girls magically rip off their panties around me, or which company can save me the gross national product of Madagascar on my car insurance. I think I'll get by just fine. :)

How about two TVs, one with a regular recorder (maybe even tape) for Idol and watch ANTM on the other TV live, if you already have more than one TV and a VCR it could work.
And then when he wakes up and realizes it's the year 2008, he can get a damn DVR.

Besides, even with an antequated piece of technology like a VCR, it is possible to watch a different show than the one that's being recorded. Two TVs are definitely not necessary.

And then when he wakes up and realizes it's the year 2008, he can get a damn DVR.

Besides, even with an antequated piece of technology like a VCR, it is possible to watch a different show than the one that's being recorded. Two TVs are definitely not necessary.

Not if you have a satelite box with just one tuner and no way to get the other channels...

I will be getting a DVR, but since we have SD on our main TV, I figured I would wait until we upgrade the TV and get an HD-DVR at that point as we would no longer have a use for an SD-DVR.

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Back to House!

Just saw an hilarious promo for "House" while watching the NASCAR race. It starts with the words, "sometimes the road to a cure begins with a prick" with a scene where someone is getting a needle stuck in, but then right away the image switches to a near full screen image of House. :p:D

Anyone else catch Chase on "American Idol Gives Back" playing a metallic violin with Band From TV? He's quite good! :) Thankfully he was there, or else I would have had to focus on Teri Hatcher screeching out Carrie Underwood's "Right Now." That was awful. :(

Just saw an hilarious promo for "House" while watching the NASCAR race. It starts with the words, "sometimes the road to a cure begins with a prick" with a scene where someone is getting a needle stuck in, but then right away the image switches to a near full screen image of House. :p:D

I saw it too. Hilarious.

Great race tonight too. I just wish that it didn't come down to fuel mileage.

Damn, will Earnhardt Jr. ever get a car that is still good at the end of the race?

When do new episodes start airing?

April 28

April 28

Monday?!! Is this a permanent new night?

Monday?!! Is this a permanent new night?

Yes, for the new episodes to be broadcast this season. What will happen next Fall is anyone's guess.

Anyone else catch Chase on "American Idol Gives Back" playing a metallic violin with Band From TV? He's quite good! :) Thankfully he was there, or else I would have had to focus on Teri Hatcher screeching out Carrie Underwood's "Right Now." That was awful. :(

Apparently Hugh Laurie plays keyboards in this band however I didn't seem him on Idol Give Back.

This will be the first time I caught a new episode at the new time since they started moving the show around on the schedule (it must be 2-3 mos, by now). :eek:

Pretty good episode. Foreman's part still seems forced, like they HAD to have him in some scenes or something. The end was not what I expected. I thought for sure House set everyone up, including Wilson to see if he can trust him. Now that he knows he can't, I thought for sure he would of said something to him. Overall, nice return.

Liked the episode, for some reason early on I thought the wife was a figment of teh patients imagination. You know another symptom that tehy were ignoring for dramtic effect. I was wrong obviously but kind of cool.

Looks like the big layoff didn't rejuvenate the writers.

After months of waiting, that was a colossal letdown. :(

I liked that somebody besides House had the "epiphany" moment and solved the case. I thought that the scenes between House and CTB were very belittling to Wilson. His character has really taken a downhill turn.

I liked that somebody besides House had the "epiphany" moment and solved the case. I thought that the scenes between House and CTB were very belittling to Wilson. His character has really taken a downhill turn.

On the contrary, it seems like Wilson is actually enjoying the spat between House and CTB. He sits back and lets those two toss zingers at each other that he probably doesn't have the guts to do himself. I think he feels that those two need to be knocked down a notch or two, and here's a way he gets that done without being the bad guy. The final shot with him smiling while CTB and House changed sheets pretty much said it all for me.

I couldn't summon up enough willing suspension of disbelief to buy into the House visitation rights thing with Wilson. Too absurd by a large measure...

Remember CTB is Wilson's grifriend, not his wife or even fiancee (yet)...

But knowing Wilson he will end up marrying and divorcing her..

Like House said "Who's the next Mrs. Ex-Wilson?"

So Cam had sex with House or was also made up? (I was rooting for a yes)

I thought this episode veered dangerously into "jump the shark" territory. Too many layers of cleverness; it felt contrived and forced. The cast is getting big and unwieldy. This has always been one of my favorite shows but they've got to be careful here.

Foreman's part still seems forced, like they HAD to have him in some scenes or something.I'd say that was much more true of Chase's scenes.
So Cam had sex with House or was also made up? (I was rooting for a yes)She never said that she had sex with House. She just refused to answer Chase's question (at least in front of the others).

She said yes by the act of not answering the question.

Silence means yes in most cases.. LOL

I like the "31" on "13" ... because she goes both ways...

She said yes by the act of not answering the question.No, she didn't say anything.

This will be the first time I caught a new episode at the new time since they started moving the show around on the schedule (it must be 2-3 mos, by now). :eek:It's the first new episode since Tuesday, February 5th. Up 'til now, it's been all re-runs in the new time slot.

I have not seen the show for months

Is FOX doing a fine job with there
HD broadcast of this show??

It was just Meh for me. After months of waiting and this is all we get?

Did anyone think for one second that House had an STD?

Did anyone think for one second that House had an STD?

Only if he got it from CTB that would been a fun story line.

Did anyone think for one second that House had an STD?

No, I thought about it for all of one second before I knew it was one of House's mind games!!! It was pretty funny too:)

Did anyone think for one second that House had an STD?

House only has sex with hookers, all of whom we can be assured are tested for STDs. He IS a doctor, after all. I can totally see him demanding to be the one that personally does the tests. :)

What I'm really hoping for is that the final episode (that shows House in a car wreck and ambulance) is that he wakes up in the hospital and his new staff has all died in the crash with him...proving that the writers and producers; made the most of their time off during the strike, went into rehab, got off the drugs that induced this painful season, and came to their senses. A guy can dream, can't he? :D

...What I'm really hoping for is that the final episode (that shows House in a car wreck and ambulance) is that he wakes up in the hospital and his new staff has all died in the crash with him...proving that the writers and producers; made the most of their time off during the strike, went into rehab, got off the drugs that induced this painful season, and came to their senses. A guy can dream, can't he? :D


God, you're good at this.;)

....yeah, really. lol

House only has sex with hookers, all of whom we can be assured are tested for STDs. He IS a doctor, after all. I can totally see him demanding to be the one that personally does the tests. :)Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. However, even if he does test the hookers that he uses, having sex with hookers still increases his chances for contracting STDs. The chances that he wouldn't catch the fact that he'd contracted an STD in the very early stages are extremely low, though, and he'd treat it long before it could have any effect on his brain.

I do recall the end of one episode when a girl showed up at his door whom he'd obviously never met who tried to strike up a conversation, to which he replied, "Do you have to talk to do this?" Didn't seem as though he was going to draw her blood and send her away until after he got the results :).

What I'm really hoping for is that the final episode (that shows House in a car wreck and ambulance) is that he wakes up in the hospital and his new staff has all died in the crash with him...proving that the writers and producers; made the most of their time off during the strike, went into rehab, got off the drugs that induced this painful season, and came to their senses. A guy can dream, can't he? :DI think this new group is just as good or better than the previous group. The only painful thing for me is how terribly contrived the scenes are when they try to include Cameron and Chase.

Just write them out of the show and be done with it. They are completely unnecessary.

Or the old crew could bite the dust, and keep the new crew in... since mostly on season 4 they are making semi-cameo appearances only, except for Foreman the last 3-4 episodes.. they could easily get rid of Chase and Cameron..

I think this new group is just as good or better than the previous group. The only painful thing for me is how terribly contrived the scenes are when they try to include Cameron and Chase.

Just write them out of the show and be done with it. They are completely unnecessary.

I say axe the new 3. They have no chemistry whatsoever, and they just don't compliment each other at all. Have them die in a hospital shooting storyline and bring the old crew back to where they should be.

I say axe the new 3. They have no chemistry whatsoever, and they just don't compliment each other at all. Have the die in a hospital shooting storyline and bring the old crew back to where they should be.

That's what I'm saying. We went through 3 years of suberb character development crating a fantastic team, only to replace caviar with rotten fish. This year, the timing is off, the lines are forced, the humor is painful, and the background stories are weak. If it weren't for Laurie, this show would have been cancelled after this year's debacle that made the gawd-awful Tritter episodes seem great in comparison.

I concur completely. It all used to work because they managed to have good chemistry with each other, in a group or interchangeably. Not anymore; these new acolytes are likeable on their own but they just don't mesh - very meh, as someone here said. And it's just not right that they're treating the old crew like unwanted ciphers. The reality game show-theme that started the season and led to the present situation may indeed be when the series "jumped the shark."

I am starting to think the reason they are keeping the old crew around is because House is going to wake up from being shot and it will all go back to how it was...

I am starting to think the reason they are keeping the old crew around is because House is going to wake up from being shot and it will all go back to how it was...

I've thought about that angle many times. Ever since that episode things have gotten weirder and weirder.

I am starting to think the reason they are keeping the old crew around is because House is going to wake up from being shot and it will all go back to how it was...
Talk about jumping the shark. I think I would stop watching the show if they pulled a stupid stunt like that.

That's what I'm saying. We went through 3 years of suberb character development crating a fantastic team, only to replace caviar with rotten fish. This year, the timing is off, the lines are forced, the humor is painful, and the background stories are weak. If it weren't for Laurie, this show would have been cancelled after this year's debacle that made the gawd-awful Tritter episodes seem great in comparison.

Based on what? It's been my anecdotal experience at other forums, particularly TWOP, that Foreman and Cameron had become wildly hated among the House faithful by the end of last season. I think discontent with the newbies is just an example of buyer's remorse.

Alright. I changed my mind. Let's keep the new subordinates. However, let's match them with equals.

In a blockbuster, Boston Celtics-like trade, we send Hugh Laurie (remaining as the evil House character), Lisa Edelstein, and Omar Epps to American Idol and put Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul, and Randy Jackson in with these losers.

Everbody wins! :D

Sounds far-fetched? Angry Brit? Check. Sweet girl with big boobs? Check. Token black guy? Check.

Wait...which show was I talking about again? ;)

I've enjoyed both new episodes.

Favorite line from the first .... although not an exact quote.

House: "You don't believe in evolution? What is this America in the 21st century?"

Anyone else notice House using the Harmony 880 remote? .... just like mine!

For all of those who want the old crew back ... have you really thought it through? The fact that they really don't care about what House tells them to do would lead to pretty weak interactions. Or maybe you would want them to have all the character development of the last few seasons removed?

the episode from tonight was awesome.

Interesting show tonight. did anyone catch the partial shot of the "Hospital" used for "General Hospital" in the past. You could see just a section of it when the actor was getting into the limo at the studio.

They used a little different plot device tonight, almost a red herring. The actor kept repeating how unhappy he was, how unfulfilled, and so on. They usually resolve this when the "A-HA " moment happens, and this seemingly unrelated remark leads to the diagnosis. They just left this plot point dangling.

I did like seeing Cameron back in the group at least for part of the show, I liked how Chase just up and walked out. I still have no connection with any of the newbies. By this point in the original season we were all connected with all three original characters. I wonder if this is by design or just poor writing/acting.

Wait...there was an episode last night AND tonight?

Nevermind...I'm dumb. I watched last week's episode on Sunday, and it threw me off. :lol:

I have heard rumors they will be pruning down the cast. Obviously its hard to connect with anybody anymore. Who do we think will go.

I think Cameron will come back and Thirteen will go. Chase is probably gone, and won't be missed. Taub and Kutner more than make up for him. I'd like to see Amber come in and replace Foreman, but she is a keeper no matter what. Cuddy and Wilson obviously are keepers.

I thought it was funny when House kept telling Cameron that if she would come back, he'd fire 13.

The Amber/Wilson exchange went pretty good. Although in real life, if you didn't get the mattress that you''re wife wanted, you'd be in the doghouse.

Much better show this week than last. Less of the tired, pathetic noobs and more of who's really important = GOOD. :D

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY AND GOOD ON THIS PLANET, SOMEONE HAD BETTER POST MULTIPLE SCREENCAPS OF CUDDY IN THE SCHOOLGIRL UNIFORM NEXT WEEK!!! :)

Alright. I changed my mind. Let's keep the new subordinates. However, let's match them with equals.

In a blockbuster, Boston Celtics-like trade, we send Hugh Laurie (remaining as the evil House character), Lisa Edelstein, and Omar Epps to American Idol and put Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul, and Randy Jackson in with these losers.

Everbody wins! :D

Sounds far-fetched? Angry Brit? Check. Sweet girl with big boobs? Check. Token black guy? Check.

Wait...which show was I talking about again? ;)


This WILL happen but in Bones, not House... (if you saw next week's Bones preview) LOL, I hope they don't go Idol on House....

Much better show this week than last. Less of the tired, pathetic noobs and more of who's really important = GOOD. :D

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY AND GOOD ON THIS PLANET, SOMEONE HAD BETTER POST MULTIPLE SCREENCAPS OF CUDDY IN THE SCHOOLGIRL UNIFORM NEXT WEEK!!! :)

I would prefer to watch her live and in HD, preview was in SD, we better wait... or stay tuned during the week for the HD promos..

Or something that House said in this last episode to Cameron "If you think 13 is hot I can fire Kutner" or something like that (a sweet threesome comes to mind and could be in next week)

13: "I think I dated that nurse..."

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY AND GOOD ON THIS PLANET, SOMEONE HAD BETTER POST MULTIPLE SCREENCAPS OF CUDDY IN THE SCHOOLGIRL UNIFORM NEXT WEEK!!! :)

What, the lengthy shot looking straight down Cameron's shirt while she leaned over House's desk this week wasn't enough?

What, the lengthy shot looking straight down Cameron's shirt while she leaned over House's desk this week wasn't enough?

Can there ever be "enough" of that? :confused:

Anyone else notice House using the Harmony 880 remote? .... just like mine!Huh. I'll have to go back and look. In a previous episode he used a Harmony "For Xbox 360" model :).

What, the lengthy shot looking straight down Cameron's shirt while she leaned over House's desk this week wasn't enough?

Since she has almost no cleavage at all, no, it wasn't enough.

As House said: "where can we find a decent set of knockers around here?"

For some reason, I have a hard time processing a doctor kidnapping an actor from the set of a TV show.:rolleyes:

It was even more ridiculous than when they had the cop harassing House.

At last, I was hoping someone would notice how absurd this episode was. Why is that when a great tv show goes a few years it heads to weirdsville.

I know House has always been a bit out there but they really pushed it to the edge this time. If I want fantasy I will watch Doctor Who, not Doctor House.

The same thing seems to be happening to this show as what happened to Boston Legal last week. Must be something in the water, eh?

Just watched the last episode last night. I agree that it was strange that House would kidnap the actor, but since he has always been really into the soap opera's, it didn't seem that big a stretch that he was noticing the different pace of his speech and timing. Strange how he would think it was some disease though.

Just watched last weeks episode. Thought it was one of the silliest episodes to date.

Just watched last weeks episode. Thought it was one of the silliest episodes to date.

I just caught up last night as well.

Maybe it was silly but House's admonition to Cameron (paraphrasing, can't remember exactly) "Quiet, Missy, and let the doctors do the doctoring" was absolutely priceless. Where else on TV can you hear stuff like that?

After last week's episode, I've come to the conclusion that I'm ready for House to be over. I think that the plots are starting to get a little too insane, and it's just time to put this show to rest before it gets really bad.

After last week's episode, I've come to the conclusion that I'm ready for House to be over. I think that the plots are starting to get a little too insane, and it's just time to put this show to rest before it gets really bad.

why don't you just stop watching? Tons of people are enjoying this show...

why don't you just stop watching? Tons of people are enjoying this show...I'm still enjoying it as well (though I have an aunt who gets so pissed off at House's attitudes that she finally gave up on it :)). Inasmuch as it's the second highest rated fictional series on television this season, I don't think that we need worry about it being cancelled just yet. Only two hours of American Idol (rate #1 and #2, season-to-date), four hours of Dancing with the Stars (rated #3, #4, #5 and #7) and Desperate Housewives (#6) are rated higher. CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, which has held the highest rating of a fictional series for most of its run, is rated just below it at #9. (You can see the Neilsen top 20 rated programs, season-to-date, here (http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,272%7C%7C%7Cseason,00.html)).

why don't you just stop watching? Tons of people are enjoying this show...
I'm still enjoying it too, but I'm worried about it.

OUTSTANDING episode. I had chills throughout.

Woah Nelly. :eek::eek:

What a hell of an episode tonight. I loved how they just brought all of the pieces together at the end.

Will watch this again tomorrow.

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY AND GOOD ON THIS PLANET, SOMEONE HAD BETTER POST MULTIPLE SCREENCAPS OF CUDDY IN THE SCHOOLGIRL UNIFORM NEXT WEEK!!! :)

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And contrary to what this may look like, the following screencap is House screaming "No!!!" when Cuddy stops because she thinks she's distracting House from making the diagnosis.

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Full resolution pics are posted on my Flickr page (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fsugino/sets/72157603853946097/).

The ending totally reminded me of Fearless, not the Jet Li movie. Crash of the transportation unit, bus and airplane, down to the blue light at the end.

Cuddy...:eek::D FSugino, thanks for the screencaps. My damn divver didn't record the whole episode :mad:

Wow.

Probably the best episode of the season. And I'm not just saying that because of the scene with Cuddy in the school girl uniform! :eek:

Wow.

Probably the best episode of the season. And I'm not just saying that because of the scene with Cuddy in the school girl uniform! :eek:

Yes, no doubt about that, a tour de force of everything that is "House", outstanding.

And Lisa Edelstein is almost 42!!! :eek: :D

Now who didn't see House having a thing with a woman he named 'cut-throat bitch'? :)

Now who didn't see House having a thing with a woman he named 'cut-throat bitch'? :)

...well, it was observed that she has so many "house-qualities", it is like him dating himself. :eek:

Now who didn't see House having a thing with a woman he named 'cut-throat bitch'? :)

I didn't. Wasn't that a dream that he had with CTB, or did he really sleep with Wilson's girl?:confused:

Excellent episode. All around perfect!

Both points that I wanted to make about this week’s episode have already been stated by others but I can’t resist saying my piece too.

Point 1. This was one of the all-time best episodes of House I have seen, inventive, funny, and consistently entertaining. I thought the constant slipping back and forth between what was playing out in House’s mind and the real world was particularly effective.

Point 2. Lisa Edelstein, who plays Cuddy, despite being 40 something and not extremely beautiful, exudes sexuality and has a GREAT body. It’s obvious that the lady spends a lot of hours in the gym. I hugely enjoyed her school girl sex fantasy scene with House.

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Point 2. Lisa Edelstein, who plays Cuddy, despite being 40 something and not extremely beautiful, exudes sexuality and has a GREAT body. It’s obvious that the lady spends a lot of hours in the gym. I hugely enjoyed her school girl sex fantasy scene with House.

Does anyone else have that scene permanently etched in their mind?

I liked Lisa a lot, but after this episode I'm absolutely in love with her.... (thanks so much for those screen caps). I would also like to see the mouth to mouth Cuddy gave to House at the end...

The mystery chick was also looking very good, the dancer at the club w/o a doubt. Where did house get the face and body for that chick?

And OMG poor Amber! I don't think that leg is gonna make it, or could leave her as House is right now, wouldn't be ironic? might as well House saved her life by stopping blood loss.

I completely skipped the credits and possible spoilers for next week's episode

I thought the way the writers brought in the Amber part toward the end was really well done. I was watching the pretty lady say "What is my necklace made of" and me "saying, oh, crap, it's Amber!".

We don't know yet if he was sleeping with Amber or anything, he says at the end that he saw something that indicated a problem...

A couple of things that bothered me with this episode:

- nobody recognized Amber in the ER?!?
- why wasn't 13 wearing a picture of Amber instead of just text "JANE DOE #2"?
- why all of the sudden were the old three and Cuddy so gun-ho on helping House? Seemed out of character for them based on the whole season prior.
- All those doctors at the end have nothing better to do than go on a field trip with House?!? Cuddy would never allow that, Foreman would never participate in that.

A couple of things that bothered me with this episode:

- nobody recognized Amber in the ER?!?
- why wasn't 13 wearing a picture of Amber instead of just text "JANE DOE #2"?
- why all of the sudden were the old three and Cuddy so gun-ho on helping House? Seemed out of character for them based on the whole season prior.
- All those doctors at the end have nothing better to do than go on a field trip with House?!? Cuddy would never allow that, Foreman would never participate in that.

jane Doe #2(amber) was taken to another hospital so none of the staff saw her and there was no picture available. In the same episode everyone of them admitted that house could pick up on a symptom subconsciously(back when they were talking about the bus driver) and that if he remembered who had teh symptom they likely were in trouble.

What seem weird is why Amber was on the same bus as House? he was on a bar drinking, no hint that he was with her at that time, too much coincidence she was there, don't you think? He seemd alone in that bar, or was he drinking with her and they were heading home to do something? mmm

Normally, I hate it when people quote an entire set of images, but this one definitely deserves repeating!

Let's evaluate each pic, one by one:

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Look at those "biker" calves! How is Laurie even able to look at Lisa's face while she's in that pose?

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If Jessica Alba's ass looks this good at 42, I'll be amazed.

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From the shoulders to the "hip notch" to the thighs, that's impressive...at any age.

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That's a perfect stomach. Those lines! This, gentlemen, is what a woman looks like.

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Lisa shows us her guns. (No, her arms, you pervs. ;)) The tone of that biep is superb.

And contrary to what this may look like, the following screencap is House screaming "No!!!" when Cuddy stops because she thinks she's distracting House from making the diagnosis.

LOL! That's probably the easiest reaction that Hugh has had to come up with in the entire series!

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This is priceless!

Full resolution pics are posted on my Flickr page (http://www.flickr.com/photos/fsugino/sets/72157603853946097/).

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! :)

Anybody else thought that Cuddy's school girl uniform scenes had a body double in some shots? For some reason, I think that a body double was substituted in several of those shots.

Anybody else thought that Cuddy's school girl uniform scenes had a body double in some shots? For some reason, I think that a body double was substituted in several of those shots.

I think Lisa did all the scenes, I didn't see a body double, maybe we know until the DVD comes out..

jane Doe #2(amber) was taken to another hospital so none of the staff saw her and there was no picture available.


Ah, I see. That's why you should always write you name on your underwear. :D

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Larger caps.

No love for the first girl?

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:D

Hmmm, I guess I"m in a small minority here - I found last night episode annoying. Not that there weren't parts I liked, but it has to have some ties to the plot as we know it. House is not know as a drunk, sure we've seen him drink, but to the point we saw in this show? There there was the mystery illness. Last week House kidnapped an actor, he wouldn't run over to the other hospital and see if the person he was having difficulty remembering was there? Come on.

That and a lot of little things bothered me. I'm sure we'll get more exposition next week in the big season ender, but I was annoyed.

What seem weird is why Amber was on the same bus as House? he was on a bar drinking, no hint that he was with her at that time, too much coincidence she was there, don't you think? He seemd alone in that bar, or was he drinking with her and they were heading home to do something? mmm

My suspicion is that she was out drinking with House. He had too much to drink, and the bartender took his keys. Amber probably was just making sure House got home ok.

Of course, a big rich doctor like House would have been more likely to take a cab home.

Ivana Milicevic

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That shot of the ensuing collision behind amber was eerily realistic, yet surreal.

All of those Cuddy scenes were outta-site! Is it sweeps week or something? I thought the girly outfit on Cuddy was contrived and silly, rather than erotic, though. Maybe I just don't "get it", but it just doesn't seem all that provocative a context for Cuddy. I don't know how to describe it, but it seemed like all of the "erotic" scenes from this episode were written to be "hawt" but also PG-cleaned to the point of being utterly ineffectual at the intent. Maybe I'm just getting jaded? :o

Ivana Milicevic

That name sounds familiar- I think Artie mentioned it just yesterday on the Howard Stern show? He was raving about her in Playboy, or something?

That name sounds familiar- I think Artie mentioned it just yesterday on the Howard Stern show? He was raving about her in Playboy, or something?
This is all I can find of her in Playboy: http://www.playboy.com/arts-entertainment/wov/ivana-milicevic/ivana-milicevic-1.html

Just an interview, nothing good. :(

That shot of the ensuing collision behind amber was eerily realistic, yet surreal.

All of those Cuddy scenes were outta-site! Is it sweeps week or something? I thought the girly outfit on Cuddy was contrived and silly, rather than erotic, though. Maybe I just don't "get it", but it just doesn't seem all that provocative a context for Cuddy. I don't know how to describe it, but it seemed like all of the "erotic" scenes from this episode were written to be "hawt" but also PG-cleaned to the point of being utterly ineffectual at the intent. Maybe I'm just getting jaded? :o
That whole sequence was great, the acting, the lighting, the music and the camera shots made for a great piece of video.

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This is all I can find of her in Playboy: http://www.playboy.com/arts-entertainment/wov/ivana-milicevic/ivana-milicevic-1.html

Just an interview, nothing good. :(

She's done a lot of guest roles in TV as well as done a lot film. CSI:Miami, Chuck, Ugly Betty, The Unit...

I'm Still wondering why is House is seeing that girl in his visions? did he saw her someplace else? the bus? a strip joint? I'm certain he can make up a girl's face from nothing..

Anyone has some screen caps of the girl in the strip joint? was it her?

Ivana Milicevic

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Ivana Humpalot
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I'm Still wondering why is House is seeing that girl in his visions? did he saw her someplace else? the bus? a strip joint? I'm certain he can make up a girl's face from nothing..

Anyone has some screen caps of the girl in the strip joint? was it her?

Well, it's obvious, now right? House saw her in Playboy! ;)

I'm Still wondering why is House is seeing that girl in his visions? did he saw her someplace else? the bus? a strip joint? I'm certain he can make up a girl's face from nothing..

Anyone has some screen caps of the girl in the strip joint? was it her?

No, not the same girl. I got the sense that she represents death, I think in the earlier scenes she was dressed in all black.

I knew something grim was up as soon as she asked to be bound at the feet with the red ribbon while in House fantasy mode. First idea in my head was "tourniquet". Then the symbolism became obvious when it started to bleed and he then recalled the conversation where he tells her to "stay with me".

Yeah, the ribbon thing was about as subtle as opening an eggshell with a wrecking ball. :(

That, and the "What's my necklace made out of?" said over and over and over again were far too blatantly done for a show as good as this one can be. I felt, in those moments, like they were attempting to draw in the 5-10 year-old demographic with the unnecessarily overt nature they employed.

I'd love to see outtakes of the Cuddy/pole dance scene. I bet they were busting up laughing for most of it.

It was 'amusing' to sit and watch this epi. with my wife :)

me thinks I will have to archive this one off the S3 Tivo :D

The "amber revelation" was when the show picked up for me (the payoff was satisfactory). Prior to that, I was laughing at how ridiculous and formulaic the show was progressing. I just don't know how the series can manage another season with the well-worn House schtick (the Christopher Walken Dead Zone-like revelation to every cure/clue by something he sees or hears) w/o innovating it into another show which falls on its face because it is no longer "House". I guess the show has been a love it/hate it experience for me this season- sometimes within the same episode.

I saw the Amber clue as soon as they showed the amber necklace (doh! House), I think he didn't see the Jurassic Park movie I guess..

Fantastic episode. Hats off to the writers and the director. The crash scene at the end was simply breathtaking. Best episode of the season IMO. ;)

I saw the Amber clue as soon as they showed the amber necklace (doh! House), I think he didn't see the Jurassic Park movie I guess..

I didn't see the Amber thing or the ribbon symbolism coming, and usually I can see plot points coming a mile away.

Now, I wonder if it's going to turn out that House and Amber were meeting because he noticed a medical condition that he needed to talk to her about or if they were meeting for other reasons.

To add another note to the fact Amber wasn't identified, if you watch during the accident her purse goes flying, I believe out of the side door of the bus.

I also wonder how they talked Lisa Edelstein into doing the pole scene. ;)

That whole sequence was great, the acting, the lighting, the music and the camera shots made for a great piece of video.

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Absolutely.

Not sure if the director of this episode was someone new? Whoever it was, they did an excellent job.

I wonder if Amber being impaled in the leg is simply her being injured in the leg, or was there additional symbolism intended that is associated with House's leg?

That whole sequence was great, the acting, the lighting, the music and the camera shots made for a great piece of video.

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I'm sorry man, but as soon as that scene switched from the pretty girl to Amber, I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Amber has to be one of the ugliest chics i've seen on TV in awhile, and that switchover just cemented that fact for me.

Yeesh.:o

Absolutely.

Not sure if the director of this episode was someone new? Whoever it was, they did an excellent job.

It was kind of like that VW commercial, where a massive side collision utterly takes you (and the character in the depiction) by surprise, leaving you in shock thinking, "Did that really just happen?!" It's also creepy in that you are seeing the person's face at the very instant where their life is about to be forever changed (if they survive).

It was kind of like that VW commercial, where a massive side collision utterly takes you (and the character in the depiction) by surprise, leaving you in shock thinking, "Did that really just happen?!"

What was that movie where a bus came out of nowhere, and ran over somebody? It was reallllly creepy and plastered me to the ceiling.

What was that movie where a bus came out of nowhere, and ran over somebody? It was reallllly creepy and plastered me to the ceiling.

Several movies have done this, or very similar.

I would start with Final Destination.

I just watched The Orphanage, and it had a very similar scene as well.

The rollover part of the scene was also rich with that authentic element, as well. As someone who has been in a real rollover vehicle incident, scenes like that always freeze my attention as it triggers that memory for me. It really does feel like it happens in slow motion and in relative silence. That's where you see all the loose objects in a surreal freefall rotation inside the cabin, highlighted by a harsh "glary" lighting.

I'm sure it triggers a similar response in everyone who views this scene and has experienced a rollover in the past.

Several movies have done this, or very similar.

I would start with Final Destination.

I just watched The Orphanage, and it had a very similar scene as well.

Except that the one in The Orphanage was much more disturbing...which is a good thing. :)

I also wonder how they talked Lisa Edelstein into doing the pole scene. ;)

What makes you think it wasn't Lisa that talked them into it?

If it was, she should have pushed for a different theme outfit, imo. ;) At the risk of being too taboo, the "little school girl outfit" look is HAWT when a 20 yr does it. On a 40 yr old, it's a touch pathetic, imo. I'm not saying a 40 yr old cannot be seductive, though. They just should be savvy enough to realize their erotic appeal is best demonstrated by other channels (themes) than that, imo. ;)

It certainly is a bold and confident move to pull that off (no pun intended) in a primetime show and in hd. So for that, I give LE the props. (The edits did seem conspicuously cut to implement body double shots, though. I'm not saying I could tell the difference. I'm just saying the scene to scene edits were highly suggestive (again, no pun intended) of the option for body double shots. Did I just put a parenthetical comment inside a parenthetical comment?...I think I just did.)

WOW what an episode. I always thought Cuddy was hot in that librarian sort of way but in this epi, she was AMAZING!!! I would love to know if she used a body double. Even if she did, the full body shots of her were still AMAZING!!

Several movies have done this, or very similar.

I would start with Final Destination.

I just watched The Orphanage, and it had a very similar scene as well.

Yeah, I think it WAS Final Destination. I never saw The Orphanage.

WOW what an episode. I always thought Cuddy was hot in that librarian sort of way but in this epi, she was AMAZING!!! I would love to know if she used a body double. Even if she did, the full body shots of her were still AMAZING!!

My wife picked up on the body double immediately. I was of course too busy watching (ehm) to notice.

It was clearly a body double. Any closeup shot was cut just before reaching the neck.

It was clearly NOT a body double. If you look at Lisa's smokin' hot body and compare against the close-ups, there is zero difference. The creative editing was simply thrown in to arise suspicions. Typical House stuff.

As to the nature of the schoolgirl outfit, we must not forget that House got it on with Cuddy while they were in college. Silly to some here, but it's HIS fantasy, after all. :)

C'mon, if that is the extent of erotic fantasy that House can conjure given his inherent dark pragmatism and hardcore nature (he's no stranger to the "escort" scene, remember?), I'd say he has been more sheltered than we are led to believe. ;) :p

To imagine Cuddy in a jail-bait outfit is such a rookie notion, I just cannot find any credibility in it, whatsoever. I maintain, that this element was a victim of being pg-cleaned, and it just comes off lame, imo. ;) (The blacklighting on the panties were a nice touch, though- I'll give you that.) To me, it was like when a thoroughly foul-languaged movie gets edited with the most ridiculous "clean slurs" as to utterly annihilate any chance at credibility the movie could ever have, if all you knew was what was shown on the network broadcast. :) Naturally, the better approach is just to not even bother with a scene like that, in the first place. (Ok, I know that is tough to hear for those of you who are going ga-ga over the opportunity for a scantily clad Cuddy. I'm just trying to say to REALLY "give it to me" if you are going to "give it to me", and don't insult my depravity with something half-assed. ;) )

Hey, if we are going to fantasize House-style and drive some viewers crazy, why not just imagine Cameron with some C-cups and slut-ified to high heaven? Now I could have seriously dug that scene. :D

I'm just trying to say to REALLY "give it to me" if you are going to "give it to me", and don't insult my depravity with something half-assed. ;) )



Totally agree. Give us a full on Dominatrix with whip in hand. :D

This one was a bit to Brittney Spears--------ish for me.

Well, he was suffering from a head injury. I figure that gives some leeway for a more simplistic, perhaps juvenile, fantasy.

You read my mind- a Dominatrix Cuddy would have been far more plausible for a House fantasy (even though I think that theme would be no less uninspired and generic to what the writers went with).

...but on the Britney Spears theme, I do think it could actually work if it was Cameron that was in it for the scene. I know, she's no spring chicken, either. All I can say is that the premise does titillate me in a profoundly different way than it does with Cuddy trying to do the exact same thing. ;)

Hey, if we are going to fantasize House-style and drive some viewers crazy, why not just imagine Cameron with some C-cups and slut-ified to high heaven? Now I could have seriously dug that scene. :D

...adding to this theme...in a deeply vee-d candy striper outfit. Now that would be some HAWT action. :D It's right down House's sexist alley, so to speak.

C'mon House writers- do I gotta get out and push this car myself, too?!

that was a great episode although the Cuddy pole dance did nothing for me. Not into uniforms and the fact it was Cuddy just made it more distracting because I kept thinking "Lisa Edelstein looks pretty good for her age" all the time and it pulled me out of the show.

One thing that did piss me off was FOX. So desperate to retain the viewers, that no sooner had we had the dramatic payoff "Amber is dying", that we didn't even have time to gasp for a millisecond and enjoy the suspense before it jumped into a preview of Amber in a bed.

Guess she's not dead then. Thanks FOX. :rolleyes:

It was clearly NOT a body double. If you look at Lisa's smokin' hot body and compare against the close-ups, there is zero difference. The creative editing was simply thrown in to arise suspicions. Typical House stuff.

Clearly all the close-up ass shots were doubled. The rest of her was Lisa.

Clearly all the close-up ass shots were doubled. The rest of her was Lisa.

It's possible, but I sure wouldn't say it's "clearly" a body double.

Hmmm, I guess I"m in a small minority here - I found last night episode annoying. Not that there weren't parts I liked, but it has to have some ties to the plot as we know it. House is not know as a drunk, sure we've seen him drink, but to the point we saw in this show? There there was the mystery illness. Last week House kidnapped an actor, he wouldn't run over to the other hospital and see if the person he was having difficulty remembering was there? Come on.

That and a lot of little things bothered me. I'm sure we'll get more exposition next week in the big season ender, but I was annoyed.

Agree, and the series itself is getting annoying, tedious, and taking itself way too seriously. Losing its fun-factor week by week.

I thought the way the writers brought in the Amber part toward the end was really well done. I was watching the pretty lady say "What is my necklace made of" and me "saying, oh, crap, it's Amber!".

We don't know yet if he was sleeping with Amber or anything, he says at the end that he saw something that indicated a problem...

Well if you knew what amber was - fossilized resin - then you'd have spotted it a mile away.

Agree, and the series itself is getting annoying, tedious, and taking itself way too seriously. Losing its fun-factor week by week.

cutty just did a striptease in a schoolgirl's outfit and you think the series is taking itself too seriously?!

Who ever takes a fictional TV Show seriously? Anything how ridiculous it is could happen... and it's a House fantasy! (and now I'm fantasizing about Lisa since then)..

It's possible, but I sure wouldn't say it's "clearly" a body double.

It's more likely than anything that there was a body double involved. Most actresses stipulate in their contracts that they are not to have their butts filmed in a scene.

Don't get me wrong, for 1 40+ year old woman, I would not kick her out of bed.:D

The schoolgirl outfit wasn't slutty enough for a House fantasy! :(

:( Sigh. You guys are missing the point entirely. The issue was that the schoolgirl outfit WASN'T House's true fantasy. If it had been, he never would have subconsciously been able to have a conversation about a diagnosis with Cuddy rather than watch her strip! He wouldn't have just been distracted, he would have went the distance and forgot all about the case!

House was hallucinating, not coming up some carefully thought-out sex fantasy, with every detail laid out and perfectly in place. His mind chose that outfit; either because of his relationship with Cuddy at "school" (college) or because it was simply some random outfit he'd seen at a club recently that didn't particularly interest him and his "depraved mind." Either way, it mattered little, as the intent was to discuss the patient and the case rather than completely fulfill a secondary desire. The fact that Cuddy was half-naked was simply a bonus...for all of us. :)

Why were we discussing Cuddy half nekkid again?:confused:

;)

I'm sorry man, but as soon as that scene switched from the pretty girl to Amber, I threw up in my mouth a little bit. Amber has to be one of the ugliest chics i've seen on TV in awhile, and that switchover just cemented that fact for me.

Yeesh.:o

+10^2.

I'd like to know who that hot chick in the bus was, though.

I have to agree that was a great eye Candy episode (along w/ being a good episode in it's own right). The unk stripper at the beginning, the brunette version of Amber, Cuddy stripping and the usual hotness of 13 and Cameron. Woohoo!

I'd like to know who that hot chick in the bus was, though.As mentioned earlier in the thread, it was Ivana Milicevic (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0587431/).

As mentioned earlier in the thread, it was Ivana Milicevic (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0587431/).I have a strong sense of recognizing her from something that she did before, but looking at her body of work, I'm not sure what.

What was that movie where a bus came out of nowhere, and ran over somebody? It was reallllly creepy and plastered me to the ceiling.

Was it "Meet Joe Black"? That was a taxi and a bus.

Was it "Meet Joe Black"? That was a taxi and a bus.It also happened in one of the Final Destination movies as well as Lost

Hey, who was the hot chick on the bus?

I have to agree that was a great eye Candy episode (along w/ being a good episode in it's own right). The unk stripper at the beginning, the brunette version of Amber, Cuddy stripping and the usual hotness of 13 and Cameron. Woohoo!
Yes, I thought that the actress who played House's muse on the bus was breathtakingly gorgeous.

Hey, who was the hot chick on the bus?Jeez, folks! Can we skim just a little of the thread before posting? That question was answered (for the second or third time), in this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13866831#post13866831), the post four before yours.

Maybe they are wondering who's the girl doing inside House's head, where did he saw her before? Some mentioned an adult magazine, I don't think he can make up faces from nowhere, and if it was from a Magazine the last thing he will look at is the face LOL.

Does anyone know who the girl on the bus is?

I'm curious about the bus girl...is she in Playboy?

How can zilla.com change my life?

I know I've seen the hot bus girl before, but I can't quite remember her name...



































hee-hee-hee! michaelscott's poor head is going to explode. :D

I know I've seen the hot bus girl before, but I can't quite remember her name...
:D


What girl? ;)

Jeez, folks! Can we skim just a little of the thread before posting? That question was answered (for the second or third time), in this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13866831#post13866831), the post four before yours.

Or even earlier here, :D

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13857314#post13857314

I was underwhelmed to learn that – gasp – somebody had apparently identified the beautiful girl who was on House’s bus before all the questions about who she is started. So what? It’s only television, boys and girls. :)

Anybody see this week's House?

Anybody see this week's House?
House was on this week?

hee-hee-hee! michaelscott's poor head is going to explode. :DMy head strained and expanded a hat size or two, but it failed to explode. The surfaces of my teeth are also flatter from grinding. I recalled the cast of regular characters in this thread and realized that you're somewho reads every post who was just joking by asking that :rolleyes:.

House was on this week?

I heard there was a hot girl on a bus. What's her sitch? :D

Best line of the show had to be when Wilson was reading House's MRI - "penis-size cortex set to pathetic"

Best line...

House: "I usually drive home after drinking but some mothers got mad-d."

[QUOTE=Mr. Hanky;13860445]If it was, she should have pushed for a different theme outfit, imo. ;) At the risk of being too taboo, the "little school girl outfit" look is HAWT when a 20 yr does it. On a 40 yr old, it's a touch pathetic, imo. I'm not saying a 40 yr old cannot be seductive, though. They just should be savvy enough to realize their erotic appeal is best demonstrated by other channels (themes) than that, imo. ;)

I would surmise that the schoolgirl outfit was representative of House's state of mind (adolescent boy). One can only hope that House continues to have these fantasies and that the outfits change for each and every one!
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:( the intent was to discuss the patient and the case rather than completely fulfill a secondary desire. The fact that Cuddy was half-naked was simply a bonus...for all of us. :)

Secondary desire?????????

Best line...

House: "I usually drive home after drinking but some mothers got mad-d."

LOL

There were a ton of great lines this week

As mentioned earlier in the thread, it was Ivana Milicevic (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0587431/).

OK, OK, thanks, sorry. I guess I should have your handle.

I still say Amber's ugly. :)

OK, OK, thanks, sorry. I guess I should have your handle.

I still say Amber's ugly. :)

I think she's got a rather plain looking mug, but she's got a great pair legs. :)

Secondary desire?????????

It's no secret that House would rather solve a case than have sex or do anything else known to man on Planet Earth. Plus, the fact that he's already bumped uglies with Cuddy probably makes her less of a sexual fantasy than a subconscious facillitator of coming up with a solution, at least in this case.

I think she's got a rather plain looking mug, but she's got a great pair legs. :)


Mmmm.... at first, I kneejerked and thought that she was just plain fugly ...then I got to thinking about it and would add (in my case at least), that she was "just" unremarkable in the looks department and that her role/personality made her seem uglier than just her physical attributes alone.

Given a more personable attitude with a different makeup/wardrobe profile, she IMO would be moderately attractive ... no Ivana to be sure, but not quasimodo either :D

I wonder if Amber being impaled in the leg is simply her being injured in the leg, or was there additional symbolism intended that is associated with House's leg?

I was wondering about the implications myself ... I am guessing that her leg was injured in actuality and its a form of premonitional manifestion of House's earlier observation that Wilson was attracted to a female version of House ( I think his remark was something like ... my god you're marrying me!)

Thus the fates would be particularly cruel in that Wilson's gf would slowly transform ever more closely into the persona of Gregory House ... even down to the physical atributes (and possible bitterness associated with it)

To twist the knife further, I could see the writers placing a dream sequence at the beginning of one of the new episodes where Wilson turns to kiss Amber in bed and its House! ... he wakes up screaming and in a sweat ... only to find that Amber is awake sitting in the corner ... brooding with her crutches against the wall and a bottle of pain killers within arms reach. :D

Plus, the fact that he's already bumped uglies with Cuddy (...)When was that?

When was that?Apparently back when they were in college together--not during the history of the show.

Mmmm.... at first, I kneejerked and thought that she was just plain fugly ...then I got to thinking about it and would add (in my case at least), that she was "just" unremarkable in the looks department and that her role/personality made her seem uglier than just her physical attributes alone.

Given a more personable attitude with a different makeup/wardrobe profile, she IMO would be moderately attractive ... no Ivana to be sure, but not quasimodo either :D

Oh, yes, personality and attitude can make a world of difference...in Amber's case, she's a typical female-who-wants-to-be-a-male. For some guys that's a turn off, for others, well...... :)

Mmmm.... at first, I kneejerked and thought that she was just plain fugly ...then I got to thinking about it and would add (in my case at least), that she was "just" unremarkable in the looks department and that her role/personality made her seem uglier than just her physical attributes alone.

Given a more personable attitude with a different makeup/wardrobe profile, she IMO would be moderately attractive ... no Ivana to be sure, but not quasimodo either :D
I rather like Amber, too. She's certainly not warm and fuzzy but she is sassy. :)

When was that revealed?

When was that revealed?Actually, I'm just echoing stuff that I heard in this thread, which I now think is probably wrong (though they did meet in college as undergrads at the U of Michigan). The Wikipedia article on the Cuddy character (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Cuddy#Development) has a pointer to a year-old article in USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-05-28-house-finale_N.htm) which says:
This season, it was revealed that House and Cuddy, whose saucy cat-and-mouse relationship continues to play out, had a one-night stand.The Wikipedia article also quotes some dialog between them suggesting that. Since we don't know how long in the past that one-night stand was, it could have been back in college.

Oh, yes, personality and attitude can make a world of difference...in Amber's case, she's a typical female-who-wants-to-be-a-male. For some guys that's a turn off, for others, well...... :)"female-who-wants-to-be-a-male"??? Could this be more sexist?

To me, she seems perfectly comfortable with being female. She just likes being in control and doesn't want or need a guy to take care of her. Conversely, she wants a guy who will look out for himself and not sacrifice himself to her needs. Kind of refreshing.

"female-who-wants-to-be-a-male"??? Could this be more sexist?

Possibly, possibly not. Depends on your definition of the term.

To me, she seems perfectly comfortable with being female. She just likes being in control and doesn't want or need a guy to take care of her.
No, it seems to me that she resents being female. But of course that's my opinion, which shouldn't upset anyone unless they feel I'm on to something.

No, it seems to me that she resents being female.What's your basis for that? What about her behavior is unfeminine?

Possibly, possibly not. Depends on your definition of the term.

No, it seems to me that she resents being female. But of course that's my opinion, which shouldn't upset anyone unless they feel I'm on to something.I'm not upset, but then, I'm not a woman, either. But I couldn't disagree with you more.

Totally independent, highly intelligent and driven, she's the antithesis of the demanding, nagging women of Wilson's past. No great beauty, but not horribly homely either, healthy and possessing a really nice body and an apparently enthusiastic sex drive. Good companion material and I'll think she'll be very good for Wilson.

What's your basis for that? What about her behavior is unfeminine?

Well, we can start with her desire to not have Wilson "take care of her", that she can "take care of herself". She insists on absolute symmetry in her relationships, as far as I can see. Stern, humorless, resentful of any attempt to draw a distinction between her attributes and those of her male counterparts.

Some people see that kind of equality as a desirable goal. OK. They're entitled to their opinion.

Let me put it this way: what would YOU characterize as distinctly "feminine" behavior, and where do you see it manifested in Amber?

Well, we can start with her desire to not have Wilson "take care of her", that she can "take care of herself".What does that have to do with sexual organs?
She insists on absolute symmetry in her relationships, as far as I can see. Stern, humorless, resentful of any attempt to draw a distinction between her attributes and those of her male counterparts.So because she wants equality that means she's acting like a man? If anything, I think it's the women in our society who are more pushing for equal treatment. So her behavior seems quite female to me.

Well, we can start with her desire to not have Wilson "take care of her", that she can "take care of herself". She insists on absolute symmetry in her relationships, as far as I can see. Stern, humorless, resentful of any attempt to draw a distinction between her attributes and those of her male counterparts.

Some people see that kind of equality as a desirable goal. OK. They're entitled to their opinion.

Let me put it this way: what would YOU characterize as distinctly "feminine" behavior, and where do you see it manifested in Amber?Dude, you really believe in digging yourself in deep, don't you :rolleyes:?

Don't ask people to disprove your assertion--it's only you who claims to see Amber as someone who "resents being female". You haven't given any proof that she's non-feminine, much less resentful of her sex. And as for "humorless", her every scene with House is a constant exchange of wit.

What about not wanting to be coddled by Wilson do you see as being distinctly "unfeminine"? As she explained when she told him not to sacrifice his desires to please her, she felt that he'd done that endlessly with all of his former wives and all of those relationships ultimately failed. She doesn't want to go down that road with him, particularly since she can take care of herself.

I would agree with nlk. I've known women like her, insatiably driven to be the best and not wanting to be taken care of. My wife was friends with somebody like that for a long time. Interesting thing, when she went to try and have kids there were problems because her levels of estrogen were not high enough to allow her to get pregnant. She was on hormone therapy for years without being able to conceive.

Sure, it's a one-off example, but interesting nonetheless.

I would agree with nlk. I've known women like her, insatiably driven to be the best and not wanting to be taken care of. How is that agreeing with nlk? He's saying that the behavior is not demonstrated by women. You are saying that you have known women who exhibit that behavior. So it seems to me that you're contradicting nlk---saying that the behavior is exhibited by women.

Tough, assertive, and, may I daresay, aggressive women like Amber are seen as threatening by some men. Thus, some men are driven to say things like, “She wishes she were a man.” I’ve also heard it said that feminism is just “penis envy,” or, “a refuge for unattractive women” Not that I would ever say such a thing. :)

Well, we're getting off-topic here but I'll bite

What does that have to do with sexual organs?


So you are saying that the only difference between men and women, in your view, is the set of sexual organs. Basically, that's what I'm saying about (the fictional character) Amber.


So because she wants equality that means she's acting like a man?


Ummmm, isn't that what your phrase means?

Hey, I only started out by saying I thought she was rather unattractive. I meant by description of her actions to be my opinion only. That's what this board is for, although this particular thread is for House.

Hey, she may be gone by next week anyway.

Dude, you really believe in digging yourself in deep, don't you :rolleyes:?

No, I'm actually quite secure in my position.


Don't ask people to disprove your assertion--it's only you who claims to see Amber as someone who "resents being female".
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Why, because you can't? Please, no one gets upset with something unless they think there's a grain of truth in it.

Frankly, I think you'd probably find many members of NOW who wouldn't disagree with me, if you change "resents being female" to "resents being viewed in the traditional female role".

This really wasn't meant to engender (no pun intended) the kind of responses usually reserved for people trying to grandstand. While I think there are far more egregious sins than "offending" someone, I didn't mean to do that. Let's just say Amber's "not my type". :)

How is that agreeing with nlk? He's saying that the behavior is not demonstrated by women. You are saying that you have known women who exhibit that behavior. So it seems to me that you're contradicting nlk---saying that the behavior is exhibited by women.

I'm saying I have known "some" women like this. Obviously "most" women aren't like this. I married one who's not like this.

I'm saying I have known "some" women like this. Obviously "most" women aren't like this. I married one who's not like this.I don't think "most" women (or "most" men) are like anything.

Both genders include individuals who exhibit a wide range of behaviors.

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Ms. Swan would be so proud of this thread's new direction! :)

Anyone notice that House brought Amber into the discussion when he went under hypnosis early in the episode? But was told that she didn't have anything to do with things at which point he got rid of her.

I thought that was a very clever piece of writing.

Really enjoyed the episode and looking forward to the next.