Joan of Arcadia mini-reunion.

Joan of Arcadia mini-reunion.

Ahhhh, his face was driving me crazy! I knew I had seen him in something I used to watch.

I was expecting him to be a child molester or serial rapist that was going to shatter the usual Masters' naiveté. I was also expecting him to attack her at the end of the episode. It could still happen.

Cannibal serial killer is the most exciting thing that's happened on House for a long time. The rest of it really does feel routine now. At this point there is almost nothing that House himself can do that is really shocking or outrageous.

The two highlights of the past couple of episodes have been in the new characters. This week his wife was great fun and very cute and last week it was the comedy concierge. I like his wife so I hope they do more with her.

I bet the homeless guy mouth was watering by just looking at Masters..

Finally caught up on the last three episodes of House this evening. The episode involving Cuddy's health scare and decision to dump House was intriguing enough but this latest show was mind blowing. House's marriage to the tall, beautiful eastern European girl was sad on a lot of levels. The egocentric House didn't to it to help the girl get a green card, instead he did it to punish Cuddy and it was mean. I liked the girl and ended up feeling sorry for her. She was both beautiful and funny and was trying to give House the benefit of his bargain. House refused her and it was ugly.

Speaking of ugly, the revelation that the kid whose life the team had saved was probably a serial killer was a gut shot. Despite the emotional turmoil caused by this week's show, I liked it a lot. It was one of the most thoughtful and multifaceted House episodes I can recall. I don't think much of House the man but I do still enjoy the show.

The show is still awesome, so is The Office, funny enough i don't really care much for any other shows.

+1 on the 40 foot jump, no way he just walks away from that esp. with a bad leg already! Don't they say a fall from 10-20ft. already has a 50% chance of being fatal?

It's a good thing Chase didn't know he was a cannibal serial killer... we all know how Chase handles those situations :)

It's a good thing Chase didn't know he was a cannibal serial killer... we all know how Chase handles those situations :)
Good point! No truly bad person who values his life wants to be treated by Chase if Chase knows that he's bad.

Finally caught up on the last three episodes of House this evening. The episode involving Cuddy's health scare and decision to dump House was intriguing enough but this latest show was mind blowing. House's marriage to the tall, beautiful eastern European girl was sad on a lot of levels. The egocentric House didn't to it to help the girl get a green card, instead he did it to punish Cuddy and it was mean. I liked the girl and ended up feeling sorry for her. She was both beautiful and funny and was trying to give House the benefit of his bargain. House refused her and it was ugly.

Speaking of ugly, the revelation that the kid whose life the team had saved was probably a serial killer was a gut shot. Despite the emotional turmoil caused by this week's show, I liked it a lot. It was one of the most thoughtful and multifaceted House episodes I can recall. I don't think much of House the man but I do still enjoy the show.

Yeah, I have to say that the current writers know how to keep up coming back for more. Just when you think you're done, some other bazzarro thing happens. Fun ride.

With that said, I really don't want another season of House and his vicadin.

It funny how poeple are enjoying the show here, yet on tvwithoutpity they are hating it. Aside from Masters (She is as good as gone I think) and the monster truck scene, (horrible green screen) I enjoyed the show.

I don't want to say that House was jumping the shark in this episode (he's already tried that in a previous episode) but this whole move for the writers to one-up the shock and drama each episode is really starting to rub me the wrong way. Instead of one quirky Houseian thing they go for Segway, Monster Truck, Fake marriage with spreadsheet analysis, and remote control helicopter with hijinks that would be better left to a Dennis the Menace comic strip. Instead of finding out the patient they saved was a bad person who killed someone they decide to turn him into a serial killing cannibal. I was half expecting to see the promo for the next weeks episode tease us with "House visits Area 51 and you won't believe who or what he operates on next .... how will our daring doctor diagnose a medical problem that isn't even from our planet?"

In my very humble opinion they need to go back to having the actual medical case take up 80% of the show and use the other 20% on character development.

A pretty bad episode.

i think there are those who picked up on House because it's a medical procedural with an interesting central character, and those who are all about House the character and think of the medical stuff mostly as context for his story.

I can see why the former would be disappointed with this season, while the latter think this has been a great one. I'm in the second camp. House is not a hero; his deep flaws and general hatefulness are real. He's far more interesting than the cases.

The question at hand seems to be does House evolve like anybody or is he psychopathic, or some sort of high functioning autistic sort who likes practical jokes.

i think there are those who picked up on House because it's a medical procedural with an interesting central character, and those who are all about House the character and think of the medical stuff mostly as context for his story.

I can see why the former would be disappointed with this season, while the latter think this has been a great one. I'm in the second camp. House is not a hero; his deep flaws and general hatefulness are real. He's far more interesting than the cases.
I agree. The medical mysteries of the week, while interesting, are far less so than House himself, at least to me. He is deeply flawed, very unhappy, and in many ways his own worst enemy. As detestable as House often is, I find his conduct and its consequences more entertaining than the medical mysteries he solves.

Without the strong focus on House and his eccentricities the show doesn't have much chance of survival. The bizarre-disease-of-the-week-figured-out-in-flash-of-brilliant-House-epiphany was getting pretty stale.

So no one else was at all put off by how farsical the last episode was? I agree that having the same formula week after week is bad but when was the last episode that actual concentrated on House struggling to cure the patient (Cuddy excluded)? If we no longer see House showing just how brilliant he is at diagnoising obscure ailments then all we are left with is a doctor acting like an @sshole.

Maybe it's just me but I want the show to at least stay somewhat in the realm of reality.

The question at hand seems to be does House evolve like anybody or is he psychopathic, or some sort of high functioning autistic sort who likes practical jokes.

I would classify him as the last option.

So no one else was at all put off by how farsical the last episode was?
Maybe it's just me but I want the show to at least stay somewhat in the realm of reality.

I rolled my eyes more than a few times during the last episode.
I really, REALLY had to suspend my disbelief.
And I'm a fairly hardcore House fan!

I don't want the writers to have scenes that are as downright silly as some were last week.

It was getting borderline ridiculous.

:rolleyes:

It's horribly stale. Every week wrong diagnosis after wrong diagnosis until the epiphany at the 52 minute mark. There would be no way I would watch the show if it weren't for the character interrelationships.

Without the strong focus on House and his eccentricities the show doesn't have much chance of survival. The bizarre-disease-of-the-week-figured-out-in-flash-of-brilliant-House-epiphany was getting pretty stale.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b228649_first_look_thirteen_back_on_house.html

Monday night TV just got a bit more attractive......"Thirteen" (Olivia Wilde) is BACK when HOUSE resumes 4/11/11.

News linked above courtesy of E! - and the pic of the cast w/ Wilde on set that Omar Epps recently tweeted.

It's on E!, Facebook and Twitter - guess this is not a spoiler?

Too late now anyway.

When in doubt, use spoiler tags.

^^^ Nothing to spoil ... they already let the cat out of the bag (promos) after the last original episode.

^^^ Nothing to spoil ... they already let the cat out of the bag (promos) after the last original episode.

I thought most of them were just hoping she would come back. I like Tamblyn and Wilde. However they aren't the reason I watch House. I watch the show because of House but it seems like they have ran of out of interesting things for him to do without repeating themselves. This should be the final season before it becomes just awkward.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b228649_first_look_thirteen_back_on_house.html

Monday night TV just got a bit more attractive......"Thirteen" (Olivia Wilde) is BACK when HOUSE resumes 4/11/11.

News linked above courtesy of E! - and the pic of the cast w/ Wilde on set that Omar Epps recently tweeted.

It's on E!, Facebook and Twitter - guess this is not a spoiler?

That is nothing, I found out why she hasn't been on the show (her character, not really) and I can't wait to see how they explain it.



She has been in prison for a year, and when she gets out, House is sitting there waiting for her and the mystery becomes why she was there and how House knew when she was getting out.

In this case... the spoiler would be in revealing why she has been gone (character, not Olivia Wilde)...

Wilde's name has been in the credits all season... so we all knew she was coming back once she had finished her movie work... so I don't see how it is a spoiler to say that 13 is coming back as long as you don't get into what the character has been doing.

In this case... the spoiler would be in revealing why she has been gone (character, not Olivia Wilde)...

Wilde's name has been in the credits all season... so we all knew she was coming back once she had finished her movie work... so I don't see how it is a spoiler to say that 13 is coming back as long as you don't get into what the character has been doing.

Nor is it a spoiler when the producers/channel shows her in the preview for the next episode.

Nor is it a spoiler when the producers/channel shows her in the preview for the next episode.

Agreed - although the unofficial forum spoiler police sometimes disagree.

Agreed - although the unofficial forum spoiler police sometimes disagree.
Indeed, I call what you have styled "the unofficial forum spoiler police," spoilerphobics. They can be so irrational I go out of my way to use spoiler codes even when they should not be necessary. When a spoilerphobe inappropriately jumps on another poster, I simply ignore him.

Indeed, I call what you have styled "the unofficial forum spoiler police," spoilerphobics. They can be so irrational I go out of my way to use spoiler codes even when they should not be necessary. When a spoilerphobe inappropriately jumps on another poster, I simply ignore him.

Not sure who specifically you're referring to as a "spoilerphobic", but if you are commenting on my post following jwebb1977's post, all I said was "when in doubt use tags", he posted what he himself thought might be a spoiler "It's on E!, Facebook and Twitter - guess this is not a spoiler?". In other words, he shot first and asked questions later, the smart move would have been to tag and then ask, not the other way around.

Now, the "rules" regarding spoilers on this forum have always been, anything that does not air during the broadcast of the specific show, or in the previews following the airing, are spoilers. In jwebb1977's case, since his quoted source of the information was stated as "E!, Facebook and Twitter", then technically it was spoiler information.

It's really simple, if in doubt, use tags.

Have a nice day! :D

I tend to err on the side of caution... just to be nice... spoilering personal theories sometimes if I think I might be right.

I know some don't like knowing what next week's episode is... and don't watch the "next week on..." spots or read the EPG descriptions.

Sometimes a guest character or a returning character is a surprise and plot-relevant surprise... so I get why people wouldn't want those spoilered.

I was just pointing out that in this case, the details of her return would be spoiler-potential... but nobody should be surprised that she is coming back because she essentially was on a hiatus to pursue other work as evidenced by leaving her name in the credits.

In this case, it would be a spoiler if someone found out she wasn't coming back and that the credits were a red herring all this time... but simply confirming her coming back as we all expected should pass anyone's "is it a spoiler" test I would think.

I agree, and as I stated above, the OP asked and I answered.

But as in your scenarios above, we all knew she was coming back, eventually, but the OP posted actually details(the actual date) of when though, that could be seen by many as a spoiler, and in fact, as noted previously, the OP thought it could be so as well.

All I really care about is that she's back. :D

Not sure who specifically you're referring to as a "spoilerphobic", but if you are commenting on my post following jwebb1977's post, all I said was "when in doubt use tags", he posted what he himself thought might be a spoiler "It's on E!, Facebook and Twitter - guess this is not a spoiler?". In other words, he shot first and asked questions later, the smart move would have been to tag and then ask, not the other way around.

Now, the "rules" regarding spoilers on this forum have always been, anything that does not air during the broadcast of the specific show, or in the previews following the airing, are spoilers. In jwebb1977's case, since his quoted source of the information was stated as "E!, Facebook and Twitter", then technically it was spoiler information.

It's really simple, if in doubt, use tags.

Have a nice day! :D
keenan -- I have never thought of you as a spoilerphobic and don't now. My frustration is caused by those whose expressed indignation is out of proportion to the supposed offense. Your comment was both unemotional and appropriate and I didn't take it amiss when I first saw it. I agree that spoiler information available only on Facebook or Twitter should not be divulged in a thread absent spoiler tags, although such information divulged in a previously aired preview is fair game. Also, I agree with another point you made. I have made clear in previous posts that it is a good rule of thumb to use spoiler tags whenever there is the slightest doubt.

:)

I was not referring to any specific member here - more meant to be general comment along what gwsat stated - those whose reactions can go overboard.

Obviously not every member may be looking @ various websites/social networking outlets that would unveil spoilers. So if said "spoiler" was info gleaned just from there - I get it...and should have used the tags.

Then again, I realized shortly afterward that any viewer that caught the preview at the end of the last episode was already informed of Thirteen's return (which we all knew was inevitable based on the opening credits alone) - so in the end, guess it was safe to have not erred on the side of caution in this case.

Cool. Won't happen again.

I was not referring to any specific member here - more meant to be general comment along what gwsat stated - those whose reactions can go overboard.

Obviously not every member may be looking @ various websites/social networking outlets that would unveil spoilers. So if said "spoiler" was info gleaned just from there - I get it...and should have used the tags.

Then again, I realized shortly afterward that any viewer that caught the preview at the end of the last episode was already informed of Thirteen's return (which we all knew was inevitable based on the opening credits alone) - so in the end, guess it was safe to have not erred on the side of caution in this case.

Cool. Won't happen again.
I feel very strongly both ways.:) I agree with you that the information you posted was not a spoiler because it had been divulged in a preview. On the other hand, keenan correctly observed that information one found on Facebook or Twitter is a spoiler nonetheless and, in any event, it's a good idea to use a spoiler code if there is the slightest doubt.

Even if unintentional, it seems all is well. Since it was on the preview immediately following the show, it isn't considered a spoiler. Info from Facebook, Twitter, Fox News, People magazine, the producer's official blog, etc. - even if it shows up on all of them - would still be considered a spoiler.

Even the post that did use spoiler tags was unnecessary because it divulged nothing that wasn't seen in the previews - although if it did actually contain the reason she was in jail, that would be a spoiler.

Side note: Cast appearances (if not shown in the previews) are considered spoilers. Those that frequented the 24 thread during the Great Tony Incident know why that became an issue.

For some reason... I found myself thinking of the Steely Dan song... "Hey Nineteen"...

Hey 13...

:)

Pentagon Channel HD to launch on DirecTV in September.

http://www.governmentvideo.com/article/104702

Pentagon Channel HD to launch on DirecTV in September.

http://www.governmentvideo.com/article/104702

And that has what to do with House exactly??

House is a warrior??? :D

TV Notes
Deadline Nears on Fox-NBCU Talks for 'House'
Network, studio in last-minute negotiations
By Stuart Levine, Variety - April 8th, 2011

There is a distinct possibility Fox could be arriving at the May upfronts without its longtime hit drama "House."

The network remains in last-minute negotiations with NBCUniversal, the studio that owns the series, in hopes of signing a new deal for an eighth season. However, the two sides are far apart in determining the percentage each will pay for the show's costs going forward.

NBCUniversal has given Fox an extension on the window of negotiation exclusivity. That ends April 15. If the two sides can't come to an agreement, NBCUniversal will offer the show to competing networks, including, of course, the Peacock, which would likely be more than happy to take the series away from Fox.

Another problem for both sides is that several cast members aren't signed up either. While NBCUniversal will exercise the options for Hugh Laurie and Olivia Wilde, Robert Sean Leonard, Omar Epps and Lisa Edelstein are unsigned for a new season and their deals would have to reupped if they were to continue.

Leonard has already committed to a Broadway revival of "Born Yesterday" that will coincide with the production of the new season of "House." Like most fall shows, production is set to begin in summer and Leonard will still be in Gotham.

The drama has been a staple of the Fox lineup for seven seasons, but ratings have been declining as of late, possibly because of shifting timeslots.

"American Idol" triggers a midseason shake-up that has sent "House" ping-ponging between Monday and Tuesday several times in recent years. It first moved back an hour from 8 to 9 p.m. on Tuesday beginning in 2007. Then the series was moved to Monday in 2008, only to move back to Tuesday later that year -- and then back to Monday in 2009.

According to sources, NBCUniversal is looking for the same deal it has had with Fox for the show since the sides renegotiated prior to season five: The network pays for cost of production, plus a premium because the success of the series.

Fox is looking for a reduction in that agreement because of the falling viewer totals and the high cost of production and cast salaries, which is often the most expensive part of a series that has been on the air for seven seasons.

When "House" first began in 2004, Universal wasn't affiliated with NBC, so the network didn't have the first choice to buy it from the studio.

Both NBCUniversal and Fox would like to have the situation resolved as soon as possible, especially with Fox entertainment topper Kevin Reilly needing to make decisions starting in the next week or two on pilot pickups. A schedule without "House" would clearly create difficulties that he, nor his boss Peter Rice, who is taking lead on the negotiations, would have previously anticipated.

Reilly is currently on vacation and is set to engage in the discussions upon his return to the office next week.

If a deal can get done between Fox and NBCUniversal for another season, negotiations with the actors will ensue. That process could take weeks, if not months, for all parties to come to an agreement.

Also, showrunner and exec producer David Shore isn't contractually on board for an eighth season and his deal would have be ironed out as well, assuming he wanted to continue.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118035196?refCatId=14

Dang. Not a surprise I guess that a series going into its 8th season is running into the common issues of antsy actors and dissatisfied networks. Hopefully the show is at least somewhat recognizable next year, wherever it ends up.

Meh. If this is the final season of House, MD I would not grieve. It's had a good run; not many series truly deserve to go into an eighth season and at this point I'm not sure that this is one of them.

Meh. If this is the final season of House, MD I would not grieve. It's had a good run; not many series truly deserve to go into an eighth season and at this point I'm not sure that this is one of them.

What I gathered from that was Fox not wanting to pay for the show to continue, another network will step up.


Anybody else intrigued by a House next season with 13 and House off at another hospital? I think they could make that work. A show this stale would need a shake up like that.

Anybody else intrigued by a House next season with 13 and House off at another hospital?

Those show are already going... Greys Anatomy and Family Practice...

What I gathered from that was Fox not wanting to pay for the show to continue, another network will step up.


Anybody else intrigued by a House next season with 13 and House off at another hospital? I think they could make that work. A show this stale would need a shake up like that.

Well, not wanting to pay the same amount given the ratings decline, and NBC/Universal is probably leveraging that fact and would love to have the show appear on their network given the recent glut of garbage they've been presenting to us.

I'm uterly baffled...

Family Guy - FAIL
American Dad - Didn't even bother
Parenthood - Christ...
Castle - Again... ??

House - It's literally like they broke out the good drugs and smoked it. The whole episode was :gasp: not only funny, but entertaining!?

Well if I was House and slept on the same room with 13 I wouldn't have contained myself... specially if she was so vulnerable like she was..

I was also expecting, after House offered to "kill her" that she'll invite him inside her house, guess not..

So see her on Monday? mmm I wonder how 13 and Masters will interact

Business Notes
UMS In Budget Cut Mode On 'House' As It Faces 20% License Fee Reduction From Fox
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com - May 4th, 2011

With the Bones pickup out of the way, attention focuses on the other Fox drama embroiled in a renewal drama, House. After a string of deadlines came and went, including one last Friday and another one this Monday, there is still no deal but I hear the hope is to wrap the renewal up by early next week when Fox brass will start piecing together the network's schedule for next season. It won't be an easy task as Fox and House producer Universal Media Studios are still apart on the license fee by about 20%. That's by how much I hear Fox wants to cut the series' current license fee to about $5 million per episode next season. At this point in a series' run (House will be entering its 8th season in the fall), the network license fee normally covers the cost of production. But I hear UMS cannot produce House in its current form for $5 million an episode, so it has been unwilling to accept a reduced license fee as it faces the possibility to have to deficit finance a show in its eighth season, something studios rarely do. But then, House is not a typical show as it is estimated to gross some $1 billion for its run from Fox license fees, off-network syndication and international sales as well as auxiliary markets. The network is not budging either, and it got fresh ammunition this week when House hit a new season low with a 2.9/8 in adults 18-49. "Both sides have drawn hard lines and are sticking to them," one person close to the situation said. "Middle ground is incredibly small, it is a very tiny dot."

To help bridge the gap, UMS has been crunching numbers as it tries to reduce the budget of the show for next season so it gets closer to the $5 million per-episode license fee offered by Fox. The focus has been on cutting above-the-line costs, including cast compensation. The studio is negotiating with House co-stars Robert Sean Leonard, Omar Epps and Lisa Edelstein, whose deals are up at the end of this season. I hear all three, who are at about $175,000 an episode, have been asked to agree to both doing fewer episodes next season (from 24 to 18 is a scenario I hear) and getting a salary reduction. Such double cut is very rare, especially on a successful show like House. But I hear Leonard, Epps and Edelstein all want to return to the show for what is perceived to be its final season and a compromise is expected to be reached, possibly by the end of the week. (House star Hugh Lauri has one more season on his 3-year deal that pays him north of $400,000 an episode, and newer cast members like Olivia Wilde already locked in too). I also hear that there is an offer on the table for House creator/executive producer/showrunner David Shore, whose contract is also up at the end of the season, but negotiations are not expected to begin until after the deals with the actors are made. And Fox has an option on fellow exec producer Katie Jacobs under the overall deal she signed with the network and 20th TV last year.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/ums-in-budget-cut-mode-on-house-as-it-faces-20-license-fee-reduction-from-fox/

Business Notes
UMS In Budget Cut Mode On 'House' As It Faces 20% License Fee Reduction From Fox
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com - May 4th, 2011

...and newer cast members like Olivia Wilde already locked in too...


I like the trifecta of Olivia Wilde -> Taylor Cole -> Lauren Cohan. Sisters separated at birth?

Wow. Not one single comment about the greatest line ever in House history this week? :confused:

"I need a hooker."

"Not if you get that to work!"

Unforgettable. :)

This past weeks episode was the first time in a while that I cared more about the patient sub plot than anything house or foreman had going on.

And I hated Masters but she deserved to go out better than with her tail between her legs and tripping over a chicken.

The show really is jumping the shark fast. The whole blood pressure thing just seemed distracting and not very funny at that. They really should go back to focusing on the patients some more and dare I say it less about house. The best ER episodes were in that vain.

A great sight-gag was the shot of House laying on the bed, munching popcorn and watching TV, while the patient is on the floor.

My recording cut off right when they went back to the doctor with the experimental drug's lab. I'm just guessing that the rats were dead?

I'm just guessing that the rats were dead?

That is correct.

TV Notes
Robert Sean Leonard, Omar Epps Set To Return To 'House'
Series' Renewal Imminent
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com - May 10th, 2011

EXCLUSIVE: I hear that House co-stars Robert Sean Leonard and Omar Epps have closed deals to return for the series' upcoming eighth (and likely final) season, which is inches away from reality as renewal agreement between Fox and House producer Universal Media Studios is being finalized tonight. Leonard, Epps and Lisa Edelstein are the three original cast members whose current deals expire at the end of this season. Edelstein's deal is still not done, with the process delayed by the fact that she has been overseas. However, she is expected to close. Star Hugh Laurie has one more year on his 3-year contract, and newer cast members, such as Olivia Wilde also have more time.

Faced with a 15-20% license fee reduction sought by Fox, UMS has been looking for ways to cut above-the-line costs, including asking Leonard, Edelstein and Epps, who most recently have been making $175,000 an episode, to take both an episode and salary cut for next season. I hear the across-the-board guarantee for next season has been set at 18 episodes. I also hear that Leonard will be returning at his old salary, while Epps and Edelstein's paychecks would go down a little. UMS had been looking to close the actors ahead of signing a new license fee agreement with Fox for what is expected to be House's final season. That is now imminent.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/robert-sean-leonard-omar-epps-set-to-return-to-house-series-renewal-imminent/

Wow, tha wasd gret. Io Trhought watchjing Durnk woiuld heklp andf irt Trutns ourt itr wasd abnout nad alkcohloic. l;ol.

Wow, tha wasd gret. Io Trhought watchjing Durnk woiuld heklp andf irt Trutns ourt itr wasd abnout nad alkcohloic. l;ol.

Excuse me. Huh?

Excuse me. Huh?

"Wow, tha wasd gret. Io Trhought watchjing Durnk woiuld heklp andf irt Trutns ourt itr wasd abnout nad alkcohloic. l;ol."

Translation: Wow, that was great. I thought watching drunk would help and if turns out it as about an alcoholic.

Vipfreak was giving a backhanded criticism. He only likes 2 shows on all TV. ;) :confused: :(

It's not about an alcoholic, this guy needs more help than House, seriously...

The only thing I remember was... 13 calling House an idiot. So, ok. I stand corrected.

My friend got me to watch it I suppose. She thought it would be decent I guess. Spyder, it's just the good shows that are non-cookie cutter that's all. :)

Wow. So it was the seemingly nice boyfriend who poisoned her and not the ex-boyfriend who was shown blowing up a picture of her ..... who could have possibly seen that coming???? What an amazing twist! Just when you think you have an episode all figured out they come out of left field with a real curveball. The writers of this show have been really knocking em out of the park week after week. Can't wait to see what they have planned next but I'm guessing if there are any butlers involved in the next episode I would keep a close eye on them.

....at least this guy didn't eat his victums like that guy in one of the other episodes.

Usually when people try to kill people they have that thing called a motive. Killing her because she cheated on you with her ex that you cheated with her on does not make sense.


Giving house tumors would have been interesting, but now I really am only watching the show out of habit.

now I really am only watching the show out of habit

I actually went to the FOX website during the first season and found the forum for House and constantly haunted it because I was so anxious as to whether or not it was going to be renewed. Now I am just about done with the show, what with having the lottery some seasons back to get a new team and choosing what were probably the most boring choices (save for Kal Penn, who left), getting someone interesting (Amber T) and then finally dumping her in favor of Olivia again, and finally, this week's utterly abysmal show, which was full of behavior on the part of all concerned which made no dramatic sense whatsoever...

If I could be sure next season would be the last I would be more inclined to watch, but I just don't know.

There is a 99% chance next season will be the last. All contracts are up and the costs are way up to the point to get the renewal a lot of cuts were made. Don't expect to see the full cast in every episode next season...

Wow. So it was the seemingly nice boyfriend who poisoned her and not the ex-boyfriend who was shown blowing up a picture of her ..... who could have possibly seen that coming???? What an amazing twist! Just when you think you have an episode all figured out they come out of left field with a real curveball. The writers of this show have been really knocking em out of the park week after week. Can't wait to see what they have planned next but I'm guessing if there are any butlers involved in the next episode I would keep a close eye on them.

I didn't pick the current boyfriend... but it was easy to figure the ex-boyfriend was a red herring... He dealt with his anger... by blowing up a picture of her. IF he had kept her picture and had a wall of them in his closet, then I'd be concerned about him... but lots of people tear/burn/throw away pictures of an ex as a cathartic way of moving on...

I am losing interest.

yeah this season has been really unremarkable. Actually the last 3 seasons have been substandard to me.

Seems like House was losing steam way back when Hack had a recurring guest star. It would still have brilliantly done episodes, but then they started messing with the cast, focusing on a very uninteresting 13 for tons of episodes and then Huddy started to really dig its grave.

PotW need to start dying more to shake up the formula.

I haven't heard about renewal.

With the teaser for next week's episode (finale?), it may be they shot two endings in case it doesn't get renewed. I can also sense a 'Who shot JR'-type of ending that can be open or closed, if House goes the same way as the lab animals.

No, it's back for one last season in the fall.

Ugh. Everyone was so brain dead stupid this episode.

I loved how taub suddenly turned into a 16 year old who knocked up his high school sweetheart.

I may forget to watch house next season.

I thought the show was quite something. Don't know of any drama like it. Bathtub scene I will remember for awhile. DVR cut off early...anything happen after Wilson was helping House to the bathroom?

So which one was Erin Andrews' sister Kendra? Was it the stripper?

Mmm I'm still scratching my head at 13, every episode she complains about her disease and all, she should enjoy life while she can and not complain every time it comes up..

House looked nasty laying there on the hospital aisle..

I thought the show was quite something. Don't know of any drama like it. Bathtub scene I will remember for awhile. DVR cut off early...anything happen after Wilson was helping House to the bathroom?

No, they take a few more steps with Wilson helping and then it goes to the credits, you didn't miss anything.

Not a fan of this season. Something seems off. Not sure what it is or if it is a lot of little things. I watched a few episodes in a row and overall a rather dissapointing, disjointed season. Bummer, this was one of my favorite shows.

Mmm I'm still scratching my head at 13, every episode she complains about her disease and all, she should enjoy life while she can and not complain every time it comes up..

I would probably be the same way if I knew that I were to face such certain torment in the not-so-distant future.

Oh god, I'm only half way though and it's @#$%ing hilarious! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Edit: LMAO, so much stupid. That was BY FAR the BEST episode. Go low expectations.

TV Notes
House Shocker: Lisa Edelstein Calls It Quits
By Michael Ausiello, TVLine.com - May 17th, 2011

House fandom, brace for impact: Dr. Cuddy is checking out.

Sources confirm to TVLine that Lisa Edelstein — whose long-term contract expires this month — has opted not to return for the show’s eighth and likely final season.

Fox and NBC Universal declined to comment and there’s no word from Edelstein’s camp.

Back in March — when the fate of House itself was up in the air — Edelstein told TVLine, “Nobody at work seems to think it won’t [return]. Everybody wants to come to a deal, and I certainly am looking forward to a Season 8.”

http://www.tvline.com/2011/05/house-shocker-lisa-edelstein-quits/]http://www.tvline.com/2011/05/...isa-edelstein-quits/

UPDATE (from Deadline (http://www.deadline.com/2011/05/lisa-edelstein-wont-return-to-house-next-season/)): Lisa Edelstein just released the following statement: "After much consideration, I am moving onward with a combination of disappointment at leaving behind a character I have loved playing for seven years and excitement of the new opportunities in acting and producing that lie ahead."

I would probably be the same way if I knew that I were to face such certain torment in the not-so-distant future.

Huntington's is a horrible disease. Her character discovered her disease incredibly early, but what do you expect when they cast a mid 20's actress to play someone with a disease that usually (but not always) manifests itself in the middle aged. She has a bevy of dopamine blockers that she would have access to to control her spasms. Not to mention, she would most likely have years and years of healthy living before she started showing signs of the disease. So her woe is me attitude wears thin quickly, especially if you have loved ones that have a debilitating disease hanging over their heads like an anvil and are coping with it just fine.

The writers have simply flip flopped from 13 has nothing to live for vs. she is normal on a week by week bases. It is incredibly annoying. You dont see her going to support groups or dealing with her family. All we get is a 20 second flashback of her mother's spasms and her mearly talking about her brother's illness. This makes for a really shallow character.

I have said it before but if you really want to see a character realistically struggle with a debilitating disease, go rent "Love and other Drugs". Anne Hathaway got screwed out of an Oscar nom for playing a Parkinson's sufferer. (different disease, but same in the way its is lack of dopamine rather than over active dopamine.)


With the character being so half assed, just like the past few seasons of HOuse being half assed, it does not give you any reason to care for the character or the show.

/television without pity rant over

House looked nasty laying there on the hospital aisle..

He looked like Tom Hulce at the end of Amadeus, on the verge of death. For once, i cringed and had to change the channel during his "surgery." Yikes.

A much better show than the previous week, which was truly one of the most shoddily written in memory.

Without Edelstein I think I can safely bid goodbye to House. Possibly Lisa knows something about what is to come that the rest of us does not. Olivia Wilde is not capable of filling her shoes.

Like I say, "13" is to preoccupied about her disease, this is ruining her role, when the symptoms come, OK, but not now.. wouldn't fit Lisa's shoes at all.. (even if she's hotter and younger)

Actress wise I could agree, but Olivia has many offers on movies, she's not worried about money like Lisa..

Olivia:
Tron Legacy
On the Inside
Butter
Cowboys and Aliens
The Change-up
In time
Blackbird
Welcome to People

Lisa
.........

Lisa
.........

the underrated "Keeping the Faith"


lol she was the crazy fitness expert when ben stiller had all of his jewish dates.

With so many DVR owners, would it be asking Fox too much to end the damn show at 9pm? I don't feel like having to remember to add a minute to every recording.

No, they take a few more steps with Wilson helping and then it goes to the credits, you didn't miss anything.

With so many DVR owners, would it be asking Fox too much to end the damn show at 9pm?
That's precisely why they have shows run passed the hour...

That's precisely why they have shows run passed the hour...

Yes, but the other networks that do that also have the minute or two overrun listed in their guide description. All FOX's method does is anger viewers towards the network, and if FOX thinks it's going to move people from DVR viewing to real-time viewing, their crazy and ignoring what people want and the way viewing of TV entertainment is headed.

Personally, I think it's a strong possibility that it's just sloppy time management amongst FOX and it's stations.

All I can say is Wow at the latest announcement.

Cutty is out...

They've actually been building towards another confrontation of some kind between her and House... so that would be one way to go. However, IF next season is going to be the last season... I think I'd like to see them kill Edelstein's character off. That would really screw House up having to deal with that + whomever comes in to run the hospital.

IF it weren't the last season, then she might come back as a guest... but since it looks like we are headed towards a home-stretch here soon... I'd like to go for a major shock to House that would give them new things to play off of.

I thought the House in the bathtub scenes were brutal. He looked like a mad scientist. The 13 character is lame, but for someone who's so sick she looked gorgeous this episode. I never liked the Taub character and to me this was his worst episode. What a self serving idiot.

I'm sure they'll figure something out without Cuddy, but since the show runners know it's a lame duck season they'll pull out all the shock value episoed they can.

Maybe Masters returns as the hospital administrator in place of Cuddy?

Maybe Masters returns as the hospital administrator in place of Cuddy?

Cancel next season if that's the case. :(

All I can say is Wow at the latest announcement.

Cutty is out...

I say it is good news. She was growing tired on me with her constant back and forth.

Agree that Edelstein's exit should be handled w/ the sudden death of Cuddy. Nothing against the actress, of course....but the show needs something like that to make it's seemingly last season more interesting.

Yeah, it's gonna look bad if she doesn't come back for "some invented reason" instead of a shocking death or something..

I think producers and actors should set if they are going to come back next season before filming the last episode, that way they can write out the character somehow.. with sudden departures it's hard..

Easy exit, Cuddy could be fired or prosecuted for her criminal actions, ruining her life forever, and pushing House further into the dark side.

Easy exit, Cuddy could be fired or prosecuted for her criminal actions, ruining her life forever, and pushing House further into the dark side.

Or take a leave of absence.

I for one don't want to see her killed. It seems that's what they always do.

13 should euthanize Cuddy to put an end to the pain and suffering that House has caused her.

Hard to have a good ending if Cuddy leaves.

They should made this season the last one but it's too late now.

Yeah really wondering how they're going to handle this. From next weeks preview it looked like they are creating some serious friction between the two characters. Did they already write her out thinking they could always write her back in next season? I guess we won't have to wait long to find out.

Has anyone noticed the "It Gets Better Project" spots featuring the entire cast of House except Hugh Laurie (well, no Leonard either, but the lack of Laurie is noticeable)? What's up with that?

Has anyone noticed the "It Gets Better Project" spots featuring the entire cast of House except Hugh Laurie (well, no Leonard either, but the lack of Laurie is noticeable)? What's up with that?

House (not Laurie) doesn't believe anything "Gets Better."

That was a perfectly reasonable response on House's part...

That was a perfectly reasonable response on House's part...

Oddly enough... it kind of was :) For House.

For normal people? No... but for House? the way the episode was going, I was sure he was going to set the hospital on fire or something based on the way the show opened tonight. It's actually a miracle he didn't kill someone. Ok, I know it was scripted that way... but still, aside from the script... he had no way of knowing that he wouldn't be seriously endangering some people there.

By all rights, he should be serving jail time... and really should lose his license... definitely not working at that hospital anymore... and somehow they have to write Edelstein out of the show since she is leaving... next season will be strange.

I think it will come down to House or Cuddy and the hospital board will choose House, since an administrator is replaceable, but someone with his reputation for solving the toughest cases is not.

I want to know why House's patients get 100% of the attention of a very senior physician and four other MD's. I mean, who has medical insurance like that?

It's actually the most ridiculous aspect of a generally unbelievable show.

My friend said this was easily the worst episode evar and believes this show should die for it. The response here sorta seem to reflect that... I guess I'll see how bad it is. Were suppose to be in the Rapture anyway.

Well I didn't expect that ending, but I liked it. Now I wonder if most of next season House will be in prison, on a tropical island, or ?

There are certainly many different directions the show can go for next season. It would be interesting to see how House's team would be integrated if he is no longer working at the hospital for the entire season.

What the?

The episode starts with an injured Wilson and possibly injured Cuddy, WHEN this happen? when House rammed the house Wilson was on the street and the 4 people inside the house were on the kitchen, car was driven into the living room or something..

Anything else heppened after? why all the ambulances, police and even helicopters? Did House come back with a vengeance?

FAIL!

Wilson fell on his wrist trying to get out of House's way. They probably were just checking Cuddy out as a standard procedure.

OK, but why all the commotion? police, ambulances and helicopters? for a sprained wrist?

Well, significant police involvement can easily be explained by it being a serious offense that is likely to draw lots of attention, and who knows what the suspect is capable of next. Also, news copters are usually all over incidents like this.

The other possibility is that it was all just another vivid Vicoden hallucination.

OK, but why all the commotion? police, ambulances and helicopters? for a sprained wrist?

Did you miss the part where House drives his car at high speed directly into Cuddy's living room? Cops and ambos usually show up when someone crashes a car into a home, potentially killing and maiming many people.

Maybe we may never know, since Cuddy is not coming back ...

Maybe we may never know, since Cuddy is not coming back ...

I assume the finale was filmed prior to Edelstein's announcement about not returning next year? Or will Cuddy appear in the S8 premiere, then leave?

Beats me.. but they can say she quit the hospital, and the season finale she doesn't want House near the hospital.. that will be a big reversal

Definitely a little put off by the finale, not enjoying they direction they're taking this seems like we just did this a couple of seasons ago. I have a feeling next season is going to be a terrible mess, I'm sure I'll still watch just not sure why...

OK, but why all the commotion? police, ambulances and helicopters? for a sprained wrist?

4 counts of attempted murder usually causes a fuss.

I liked the finale. This series is in all likelihood entering its final episodes, and House has definitely always seemed like the sort of show that was going to get a little (more) extreme when it entered its final stretch. Much preferable to last year's fairly unremarkable finale.

One thing about House, he sure must be constipated with all that Vicodin. I took just pills for a couple of days after my recent shoulder and well it was pretty uncomfortable.
They never show him popping stool softeners.

One of the better aspects of the episode was Wilson telling the cop that House could be found in a bar that would reflect how he was feeling. Wilson figured he'd be in the seediest, most depressing bar in the city. But of course, as it turned out, he was sipping drinks at some beach, smiling, at relative peace with himself. On the run from the police, but fairly content.

It's such a dark turn for the House character, I can understand some of the negative reaction that the episode is getting from critics. But I see it as a natural progression for a very disturbed character.

My friend said this was easily the worst episode evar

...probably next to the one the episode before last where he has the bet with Wilson and ended up smashing his Vertigo one-sheet.

One thing about House, he sure must be constipated with all that Vicodin.

This went through my mind as well. All that Vicodin has finally made the show itself utterly full of you-know-what. This episode was full of stuff that must have looked okay on the page but ended up with total check-your-mind at the door behavior (House has a long history of putting his career in danger to save the life of a patient and now blows up at one that chooses life, and yes we're supposed to attribute that to his suffering; a patient refuses to tell what is wrong with her and then House plays along). And let us not forget how his behavior has become so loathesome the long standing, long-suffering relationship with Wilson just doesn't allow for suspension of belief any more (if it had been me, messing with the Vertigo poster would have been the last straw).

The guest patient was not sympathetic, Taub has never been sympathetic, 13 was tiresome in her defense of the patient (and I marveled at how her bangs seemed to come and go), Foreman just looked tired, as he has had nothing much to do on the show for years...

This would have been the perfect opportunity to put the show to sleep.

Definitely a little put off by the finale, not enjoying they direction they're taking this seems like we just did this a couple of seasons ago. I have a feeling next season is going to be a terrible mess, I'm sure I'll still watch just not sure why...

I kinda feel the same way, about watching next year. I'll probably watch, but not sure why I'm still watching now. I think the Monster truck episode was the one that went too far over the top for my tastes.

I thought this went a little too far. Looked like the end to the series. Not sure how they come back for another season with an attempted murderer and lunatic. Went way beyond just him just having issues. Maybe this will be a dream sequence thing. I was still thinking he was under that building from the end of last season. Never bought into Cuddy all of a sudden showing up at his apartment.

The experimental drugs he was taking affected his brain and decision-making ability. House has always been rude, but never reckless to the point where he could kill Cuddy's child (who he obviously loves). He'll escape jail but probably end up back on Andre Braugher's couch (I hope; love that guy!). The real House wouldn't have gone that far. As for the show, I hope they win some major hardward next year; since Mad Men isn't on this year, it will open the award for best drama for someone else. House has been incredibly creative this year and deserves at least a nomination. For me, Southland and Men of a Certain Age are both better, but I can't see them getting the attention they deserve.

BTW, the prop people screwed up Taub's phone graphic:

http://i597.photobucket.com/albums/tt56/kucharsk/image.jpg

Note: "No Service"

The experimental drugs he was taking affected his brain and decision-making ability. House has always been rude, but never reckless to the point where he could kill Cuddy's child

Yes, she could have been elsewhere in the house, but I think House could see her daughter wasn't present.

I'm sure Taub hopes he's in a dream sequence. :D

I thought this went a little too far. Looked like the end to the series. Not sure how they come back for another season with an attempted murderer and lunatic. Went way beyond just him just having issues. Maybe this will be a dream sequence thing. I was still thinking he was under that building from the end of last season. Never bought into Cuddy all of a sudden showing up at his apartment.

Why now? Every time someone gets their medical license back on this show it pretty much implodes any sense of credibility. There is no way that 13 could ever get hers back after being convicted of manslaughter. And, honestly, there was no way House should've gotten his back the first time after being sent to the institution. And there's no way Wilson would still have his after his run in with David Morse.

A dream sequence might not be a bad idea (even though they've already done that before), but at least this makes it easy to write Cuddy out of the show.

I'm leaning on an ending that shows that the entire series was a dream. House lies on his bed, wakes up from a long-running dream, having imagined everything that might have happened. We're shown that he's emerged from his operation with his leg intact, and we see him walk off into the sunset; healed, but obviously not cured.

Or, he could simply die from a drug overdose. Who knows?

I'm leaning on an ending that shows that the entire series was a dream. House lies on his bed, wakes up from a long-running dream, having imagined everything that might have happened. We're shown that he's emerged from his operation with his leg intact, and we see him walk off into the sunset; healed, but obviously not cured.

Or, he could simply die from a drug overdose. Who knows?

How about one where everybody on House's team has been sent to hell for something bad they did and house is basically the devil who punishes them and their patients.

How about one where everybody on House's team has been sent to hell for something bad they did and house is basically the devil who punishes them and their patients.

I like this one.

I think most agree the time has come for this to end (or slightly past that). But, I prefer that they have a known end point now and can make the final season interesting (hopefully) with a real conclusion. That's better than the likes of The Event and others that are just left hanging.

My friend said this was easily the worst episode evar and believes this show should die for it. The response here sorta seem to reflect that... I guess I'll see how bad it is. Were suppose to be in the Rapture anyway.

I really, REALLY shouldn't have listened to her and listened to my gut...

BTW, the prop people screwed up Taub's phone graphic:

Note: "No Service"

LOL

If we went with the "dream sequence"... we have several options to choose from...

1. The episode where Cuddy almost died... maybe she did.

2. House is still under the building.

3. House is still in his bathroom.

4. House is still in the mental institution.

5. House is still in surgery from that time early in the show where we thought he recovered and had an episode of pain-free legness...

6. House is still in his original surgery from when he first had the problem with the leg.

So many crazy things to choose from.

That said... I would really hate to wipe out whole seasons because of revealing a dream sequence... so I kind of have to hope they don't go that way.

Using the dream angle is too easy. The final season should primarily trace the more dire consequences of House's actions throughout the series. The writers have lots of room to be creative while grounding past events in reality, so I hope they take advantage of it.

"Newhart" could do it because it was funny. "Dallas," on the other hand, is now mostly the punchline of a joke because of doing the "it was a dream" thing.

The producers of House know better than to try any such thing. And there's no need. A season about his neuroses becoming full-blown psychosis would be worth watching.

House has never been heroic. We root for him because the show is designed to be sympathetic to his point of view; if he were a character in a show about Lisa Cuddy, the audience would generally feel very differently about him.

I'd like to see him spend a few weeks as a street doctor in some Caribbean village. And then come back to Princeton only to find that he's been replaced by a brilliant diagnostician who's not crazy, and so he's not the center of anybody's universe any more.

Plus he's still crazy and a wanted felon.

Several of the shows that I watch have chosen to completely explode in their season finales: this, Hawaii Five-O, The Mentalist. All ended with an extreme "where the hell do they go from here???" cliff-hanger. It's a fad :D.

Oh come on, with both those shows you know exactly were they are going unless you are new to this whole TV thing. The first episode will clear up any loose ends and put everything back on course. Odds are they will do the same here- minus a hospital administrator.

Several of the shows that I watch have chosen to completely explode in their season finales: this, Hawaii Five-O, The Mentalist. All ended with an extreme "where the hell do they go from here???" cliff-hanger. It's a fad :D.

Nothing beats the final episode of Season 2 of Millennium… :D

Nothing beats the final episode of Season 2 of Millennium… :D
Remind me!

I don't think this season needs the dream crutch to justify itself. Every season House will do something that apparently will change the show for good and yet it always returns to it's original formula after about twelve episodes.

I predict this will be the case next season two. There will be ramifications for about six episodes and then he'll be back at the hospital and eventually it will be as if it never happened.

I don't think this season needs the dream crutch to justify itself. Every season House will do something that apparently will change the show for good and yet it always returns to it's original formula after about twelve episodes.

I predict this will be the case next season two. There will be ramifications for about six episodes and then he'll be back at the hospital and eventually it will be as if it never happened.

That would require a suspension of disbelief that I reserve only for science fiction and CTU.

If House doesn't end up in jail, or dead, the writers will have blown it.

That would require a suspension of disbelief that I reserve only for science fiction and CTU.

House is one step away from having a prototype robotic leg or nanovirus to fix his problem. Keeping my suspension of disbelief was diagnosed as being a bad idea about four seasons ago.

I save the "self operating on leg" episode because it epitomizes how bad this show got while at the same time it was so bad it looped back to hilarious/awesome.

I save the "self operating on leg" episode because it epitomizes how bad this show got while at the same time it was so bad it looped back to hilarious/awesome.

For someone that doesn't like anything on TV, you sure watch alot of it. :confused:

As for how House's crime is handled next season, I think it may entirely depend on how the writers feel about the possibility of House coming back for a 9th season, on Fox or another network. If they think there's more than a slim chance of a 9th season, they'll probably walk it back some and somehow explain that House knew with 100 percent certainty that no one could have been killed, or do whatever else they need to do to keep House out of jail and get him back with his team.

Otherwise, I think they're likely to keep the intensity ramped as much as they can for the final ~22 episodes. Heck, taking a page from this finale, maybe they'll open the season up with House dying and spend the rest of the season leading back up to that moment? Nah. :)

Too much Vicodin and lack of human emotions will do that to anyone.

So....House will be in jail curing his cellmate from a disease he didn't know he had while saving the governor (the usual 15 phone calls) who is at Princeton General who will pardon's him. ....What else can the writers do?

So....House will be in jail curing his cellmate from a disease he didn't know he had while saving the governor (the usual 15 phone calls) who is at Princeton General who will pardon's him. ....What else can the writers do?

Put him on probation with community service.

Wouldn't he lose his medical license? I guess he could still solve cases, but not administer treatments or write prescriptions.

Wouldn't he lose his medical license? I guess he could still solve cases, but not administer treatments or write prescriptions.

The House universe is strange. Why is 13 still practicing when she was essentially convicted of medical manslaughter via euthanasia. All of them are guilty of breaking, entering, and burglary (if you consider removing toxins theft).

TV Notes
'House' Producers thought Lisa Edelstein would return for eighth year
By Lynette Rice, EW.com's 'Inside TV' blog - June 3rd, 2011

The character of Lisa Cuddy wasn’t expected to disappear after House’s seventh season. In fact, executive producer David Shore told EW that he was planning on Cuddy’s alter-ego, Lisa Edelstein, to be back for more after they shot the drama’s finale.

Shore says he would have crafted a different season-ender had he known her plans. (The actress, whose contract expired at the end of season 7, declined to renew her deal.) “I don’t know how exactly ,” Shore told EW during a special charity event for House Thursday that benefitted the Writers Guild Foundation. “I don’t what it would have been. It probably would have involved more closure on the character. I was really disappointed. I am still reeling from it but we just started meeting a few days ago, like we always do this time of year, to try to map out the first half of the next season, and we are having some very frank discussions about what we are going to do.”

House scribe Peter Blake, who co-wrote the finale with Shore, said explaining Edelstein’s departure will end up being the easy part. “Weirdly for me, I think the harder question to answer is, what would we have done with Huddy if she was still on the show? I think both would have been hard, although we all wish Lisa was still here,” Blake said. “The hardest part about her being gone is we lost an important character to write stories about. I think everyone knows that the writers have nothing to do with her departure. It is a big deal because the Cuddy-House dynamic is one the reasons people watch the show. It was one of the driving forces of the show and one of the reasons it kept bubbling up.”

Shore can’t even say if Edelstein will be back for an episode or two to properly finish her storyline. “We have to plan for her not coming back. It might be interesting to get her in for an episode or two somewhere to wrap up Cuddy, probably would make fans happy, but we have to plan, unfortunately, on her not coming back, because there’s no indication that she would at this point.”

Loath to give anything away, Shore did reveal that it’s likely a new character will take over her job. “It depends on how things unfold but there definitely may well be more than one.” Most importantly, he hopes fans don’t lose interest in the Fox drama. “House is not going to be totally changed or different. The show is what it is. I am who I am. I write what I find interesting and always have. We have a veteran team of writers and we are not going to let the show take a nosedive eight years in. We just won’t. Bear with us fans. We will turn this into an opportunity I promise. We will find a way to bring something new to the show that will get them excited again. It’s all about turning obstacles into opportunities. That’s what life is all about. I loved Cuddy and Lisa, but it’s done and now we move forward. We have just gotten started talking season 8 arcs and trying to plan it and figure out what to do. We will devote ourselves to making season eight a great, great season.”

Speaking of high-profile departures, what does this mean for star Hugh Laurie? The big guy’s hinted that he may want to leave after next season. Will he? “I don’t know yet,” Shore said. “I’d have to discuss that with Hugh, and he’d have to decide, and then I’d have to discuss it with the writers ,and we’d have to figure it out. If it is the last season we want to do it right and go big. If it is not the last season, that doesn’t change my standards of quality much. We will still try to make it a great season.”

Finally, Shore acknowledged that Olivia Wilde’s got a thriving movie career now but “she will be back for at least some of the season. We want her for as many of them as we can get her for.”

[I]With reporting from Carrie Bell.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/06/03/house-lisa-edelstein/#more-46922

After much consideration, I am moving onward with a combination of disappointment at leaving behind a character I have loved playing for seven years and excitement of the new opportunities in acting and producing that lie ahead.I wonder who writes this stuff for them?

I didn't really like her at first mainly for being the replacement of Olivia Wilder, but I miss Amber Tamblyn's character. What, a show has to have a limit on the cast?
Cut the Executive Producer instead or some other useless, overpaid Exec. ;)

1984 must of been a good year. That's four 'honeys' that were born in the same year on three different shows I watch, or now watched.

The House universe is strange. Why is 13 still practicing when she was essentially convicted of medical manslaughter via euthanasia. All of them are guilty of breaking, entering, and burglary (if you consider removing toxins theft).
Yes, 13 was GUILTY of manslaughter, but she was CONVICTED of something like over prescribing, and she had served her time. In her first episode back, it was discussed how House got her, her license back. Again, while they are all guilty of B&E, and burglary, none of them have ever been convicted. They have only been shown to be arrested once for this.

It *IS* only television.

I thought in Masters' last episode it was mentioned that 13 still did not have her license back. At this point in the series it is picking nits as far as I am concerned.

I thought in Masters' last episode it was mentioned that 13 still did not have her license back. At this point in the series it is picking nits as far as I am concerned.

There were more episodes that aired after that... and it was assumed that at some point off-camera she was fully instated again.

I guess you are correct. pretty lame to just kinda gloss over that. I had to do a google search for a tv without pity review to confirm.

Seems like over prescribing a fatal amount to a (non) patient should be a pretty bad offense, but not in House's medical world.

Outside of Jack Kevorkian... there have been a lot of assisted suicides by doctors and nurses that have not been convicted for lack of proof.

IF they can't prove it... then the worst case would be malpractice, and that only happens if the family of the deceased pushes for it OR if you are the family of the deceased that you assisted (in the case of 13's situation)... so they can only go for what they can prove... and in this case what they could prove wasn't serious enough to permanently lose her license.

That said... in the real world, she typically wouldn't be welcomed back to the hospital where she had most recently worked... so that's the stretch for the purposes of House.

Didn't watch House 'til the last two seasons. Seems like the plot line for every episode is someone comes in w/ a problem that they try nine or ten diagnosis and in the final few minutes, House has an epiphany and they cure the patient. Throw in a few sub-plots of wife cheating or House going off the reservation and that's about it. Think I'll watch the first episode this fall and see if they try something new before committing to it.

He's Sherlock Holmes, or Perry Mason. This is the way the series has always behaved, but of late things have sort of fallen apart. The early seasons were much, much better.

I've watched faithfully since the first season, but I've about had it.

Probably why my wife quit watching it. I just started to watch because I'd heard a lot of buzz about it early on.

Comic-Con 2011 Notes
'Breaking In' Co-Star Odette Annable Joins Fox's 'House' As New Regular
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com - July 25th, 2011

EXCLUSIVE: There will be a major new female addition to Fox's House this fall. Odette Annable, who co-starred on another Fox series this past season -- the midseason comedy Breaking In -- is joining the veteran medical drama as a new series regular, the first regular addition to the cast since the promotion of Olivia Wilde, Peter Jacobson and Kal Penn in Season 4.

But fans of Breaking In shouldn't fret that this might be the nail in the coffin of the underrated comedy starring Christian Slater and Bret Harrison. There is time carved into Annable's deal for House that would allow her to also do Breaking In should Fox opt to pick up the series for a second season. Producers are keeping details about Annable's character on House under wraps, but I hear that she meets Dr. Gregory House in prison. As our sister site TVLine recently reported, House will find himself behind bars at the opening of the new season after driving his car into Lisa Cuddy (Lisa Edelstein)’s living room in the May Season 7 finale. I hear Annable will play a doctor at the prison whom House recruits to be a new member of his team of diagnosticians, which means that House will likely return to Princeton-Plainsboro pretty quickly after his stint in the slammer.

With Wilde, who plays fellow former jailbird Thirteen, busy in features, she is not expected to be in every episode of House next season. And with original co-star Edelstein making a surprising exit after last season and Amber Tamblyn ending her recurring stint, for now Annable will be the only full-time female cast member next season. Of course, the series' producers are yet to find a new boss for House to replace Edelstein's Cuddy. Annable (formerly Odette Yustman), repped by UTA and Evolution, previously co-starred in Cloverfield and did stints on the series October Road and Brothers & Sisters.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/07/2011-comic-con-charlies-angels-panel/

I will not miss the Cuddy character, and will undoubtedly relish the eye candy of Annabel. It would be decent if Edelstein put in an episode or two to tie the character up though.

I will not miss the Cuddy character, and will undoubtedly relish the eye candy of Annabel. It would be decent if Edelstein put in an episode or two to tie the character up though.

Yes, I'd like to see Cuddy tied up as well. ;)

I thought that Breaking In was already cancelled. (Not that I'm happy about that, it was one of the funniest shows I've seen in years.)

Didn't watch House 'til the last two seasons. Seems like the plot line for every episode is someone comes in w/ a problem that they try nine or ten diagnosis and in the final few minutes, House has an epiphany and they cure the patient. Throw in a few sub-plots of wife cheating or House going off the reservation and that's about it. Think I'll watch the first episode this fall and see if they try something new before committing to it.

Well said. I find this show pretty boring. In one episode, guy sat in a hall way and saw a pea in a picture on the wall. He went to the hospital and told his team to look for a pea inside a patient who was in critical condition. Pea was found and patient was saved. Wow!

Thirteen looks good in Cowboys and Aliens.

She's not showing everything some think she is in the movie. She wore pasties. CGI was used to add the "lady bits" (to take a term from Cuddy).

EDIT: Oops - wrong movie. The CGI is in The Change Up, not Cowboys and Aliens.

She's not showing everything some think she is in the movie. She wore pasties. CGI was used to add the "lady bits" (to take a term from Cuddy).

She didn't even have a nude scene so not sure what the pasties were covering. The closest was the fire scene but that was just about 1 inch of her back side. Nothing else was even as close. She as naked in the fire scene but they only showed her from behing mostly and just her back. She showed more just walking around in her see through top (you can clearly see everything on her top half).

Thirteen looks good in Cowboys and Aliens.

Haven't seen it, but... Doubtful next to her in Tron. Btw, don't usually like short hair on a chick.

Yes please..

http://i.enewsi.com/g/generated/Entertaiment/Misc3/odette-annable__scaled_200.jpg

Haven't seen it, but... Doubtful next to her in Tron. Btw, don't usually like short hair on a chick.

Long hair in C&A. BTW she said on Leno that she did her own stunts.

Wilde comments on the nude scene in C&A here (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1668055/olivia-wilde-cowboys-and-aliens-nude-scene.jhtml):
Olivia Wilde might have been covered in dust and dirt while shooting "Cowboys & Aliens," but that didn't make shooting a mostly nude scene in front of her co-star Daniel Craig any less awkward.

"It was kind of strange because I was half-naked in front of a bunch of people, including the crew, a bunch of Apache warriors, a bunch of cowboys, and Daniel Craig, who I had to stand in front of basically naked," Wilde explained to MTV News. "He had to take a moment to sort of look me up and down before covering me in a blanket. And I was like, this is crazy."

You can see here saying that in a video clip here (http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/676532/olivia-wilde-describes-the-awkwardness-of-her-sexy-campfire-scene.jhtml#id=1667999).

Wilde comments on the nude scene in C&A here (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1668055/olivia-wilde-cowboys-and-aliens-nude-scene.jhtml):


You can see here saying that in a video clip here (http://www.mtv.com/videos/movies/676532/olivia-wilde-describes-the-awkwardness-of-her-sexy-campfire-scene.jhtml#id=1667999).

They keep making it sound like she is actually naked in the movie, which she is NOT. All you see is her upper back. They keep talking about how she was nude in this movie, etc. to funny, I think it is for publicity, don't rush to see it for this, trust me, she is not nude in the movie, except for a see through top.

Some "news" on Cuddy and the direction of the show -

Though the show's one-year time jump will skip Cuddy's exit from Princeton-Plainsboro, creator David Shore says the show won't overlook it altogether. "There's going to be an acknowledgement, but it's not going to be a big story about her because unfortunately we don't have [Lisa]," he says. Does Shore think he will ever get to write Cuddy a proper send-off? "Down the road, that might be more appropriate. It didn't seem right now," he says. "Given that she was gone, we decided it was better to not just have her come back to leave again."
http://www.tvguide.com/News/MegaBuzz-House-Glee-CSI-1036239.aspx?rss=breakingnews&partnerid=mediaite&profileid=breaking

Anyone catch the premiere??

yes and I liked it. This season actually looks promising compared to the last few anyway.

It was a strong season opener that integrated the prison setting better than most shows.

I liked the prison scenario better than I had anticipated. It was well written and (mostly) realistically plotted. The comment from the black doctor to the female doctor ("you're fired...no one will ever hire you again") obviously means House will hire her, or have her hired for his team, even if he's not in charge anymore as the previews imply. Hopefully, this new direction will infuse new life into what I was predicting to be this show's final season.

What kind of prison is that? female doctors, female cafeteria workers, female pill handling employees, female guards, in the middle of murderers, robbers, etc..

Anyway, it seems House will remain in the can for another episode or two, House meets Prison break and Scoffield will help him escape.. LOL

I wonder why Steve Urkle is in prison... :D

Odette Annable is nice, but yeah... this show blows now.

Interesting episode. The jury's still out on how well the situation will work. I'll keep watching for the moment.
What kind of prison is that? female doctors, female cafeteria workers, female pill handling employees, female guards, in the middle of murderers, robbers, etc.Google "female guards in male prisons"--apparently it's not particularly uncommon. Medical staff doesn't seem unreasonable--the treatment areas are restricted to prisoners who need it and are extra heavily guarded. I don't know about food service workers. I do know that as many of those as possible are usually drawn from the inmate population.

Any non-self-defense-trained civilian is at risk working in a prison (the trained guards are at some risk) and it's not possible for the entire staff to be composed of big burly combat-trained men. The people who work in prisons know the risks and assume them voluntarily. Prohibiting women from working in male prisons would run afoul of laws against sexual discrimination in hiring. They'd have to set non-sex-based standard for education, training and physical capability and any woman who can pass that standard would have an equal chance to get the job as any man who did. There are female patrol cops and firefighters; we currently have a prohibition on female soldiers in combat in the States, but many other countries don't and ours is under attack and not likely to last much longer.

The most unrealistic part in my opinion is letting House keep his cane. That could be a weapon.

House will break out with the star of Prison Break during the next episode.

I wonder why Steve Urkle is in prison... :D

He was found guilty of crimes against humanity for his role in the show Family Matters. He is serving one year in prison for each episode. You can see that prison has given him a much more hardened personality.

What kind of prison is that? female doctors, female cafeteria workers, female pill handling employees, female guards, in the middle of murderers, robbers, etc..

Amazingly, women can also; vote, drive, and work outside of the kitchen now! :eek:

It's a big, scary world out there after being locked up in the bomb shelter all those years, isn't it? Welcome to 2011. You'll adapt over time. Good luck. :)

What kind of prison is that? female doctors, female cafeteria workers, female pill handling employees, female guards, in the middle of murderers, robbers, etc..

Not the most unrealistic part of the episode, though... but someone else beat me to mentioning how the heck House was able to keep his cane... that's way too easy of a weapon for the kind of criminals he appeared to be locked up with!

I wonder why Steve Urkle is in prison... :D

Dammit... someone else beat me to replying to this too! Two words, though...

Family... Matters

:)

The most unrealistic part in my opinion is letting House keep his cane. That could be a weapon.

Exactly. Heck, it WAS a weapon in this episode. Amazing that in the months he had been in prison that hadn't already happened and cane permission already lost!

He was found guilty of crimes against humanity for his role in the show Family Matters. He is serving one year in prison for each episode. You can see that prison has given him a much more hardened personality.

He should have gotten life in prison for that show! :)

On an unrelated note... this was an interesting companion piece to 2 years ago with the psychiatric ward opening episode. Personally, I wish they had opted for a 2-hour premier for this prison episode like they did that season. I think they could have mined for more gold before pulling him out for work release as appears to be where they are headed.

What kind of prison is that? female doctors, female cafeteria workers, female pill handling employees, female guards, in the middle of murderers, robbers, etc..I've been to several high-security prisons (as a lawyer, not an inmate), and I can confirm that there are in fact a surprisingly high number of women working in correctional facilities and interacting regularly with the inmates. Believe it or not, but according to the ones I've talked to, being a woman is actually an advantage when it comes to interacting with the inmates. Maybe the inmates relate on a mother-son level? Or maybe they're just that desperate for any amount of female companionship that they don't want to jeopardize what they can get.

As for House's cane, apparently cane use in prisons is prevalent enough to warrant study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21278316, so it appears that wasn't too inaccurate either.

I've been to several high-security prisons (as a lawyer, not an inmate), and I can confirm that there are in fact a surprisingly high number of women working in correctional facilities and interacting regularly with the inmates. Believe it or not, but according to the ones I've talked to, being a woman is actually an advantage when it comes to interacting with the inmates. Maybe the inmates relate on a mother-son level? Or maybe they're just that desperate for any amount of female companionship that they don't want to jeopardize what they can get.

As for House's cane, apparently cane use in prisons is prevalent enough to warrant study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21278316, so it appears that wasn't too inaccurate either.

That's because women tend to make life hell for men.

I've been to several high-security prisons (as a lawyer, not an inmate), and I can confirm that there are in fact a surprisingly high number of women working in correctional facilities and interacting regularly with the inmates. Believe it or not, but according to the ones I've talked to, being a woman is actually an advantage when it comes to interacting with the inmates. Maybe the inmates relate on a mother-son level? Or maybe they're just that desperate for any amount of female companionship that they don't want to jeopardize what they can get.

As for House's cane, apparently cane use in prisons is prevalent enough to warrant study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21278316, so it appears that wasn't too inaccurate either.

One of the Criminal Justice instructors @ the college I work for also happens to be a HOUSE fan. I asked him about the female COs & House's cane.....confirmed that both were essentially accurate. Women do take positions in "male" prisons all the time. And while it would have required some sort of authorization, House's cane would have probably also been allowed.

BTW, the scene where House was in his cell and he had only one pill left, what did the crazy muscle dude on top tried to give him? Couldn't really tell what it was in his hand...

BTW, the scene where House was in his cell and he had only one pill left, what did the crazy muscle dude on top tried to give him? Couldn't really tell what it was in his hand...

A cricket

Anyway, if I were a woman the last place I will like to work is in a men's prison.. just my point..

I applaud the real women in the real world for working there...

I still really enjoy this show and as long as Laurie wants to do it I say "right on". As long as "Wilson" is still on board it will be fine. "Cuddy's" absence, while a shame, is not an insurmoutable loss.

This show, Castle (hate the daughter), and the Mentalist are my only three "can't miss" scripted network shows

While it was entertaining, the current situation is not sustainable. No way can he have a string of unusual and baffling medical cases to diagnose in prison. One is believable, but not week after week.

Apparently Dr. Jessica Adams will be a series regular this year. She is credited for four of the first five episodes, and that's all that are listed so far on IMDB. Lisa left, so they are hiring Odette Yustman and Charlyne Yi to replace her?

While it was entertaining, the current situation is not sustainable. No way can he have a string of unusual and baffling medical cases to diagnose in prison. One is believable, but not week after week.Doesn't look as though they're going to try to sustain it. He's back at Princeton Plainsboro next week working a case.

Saw a bit of Hugh Laurie's performance at Hardly Strickly Bluegrass (http://www.strictlybluegrass.com/) held at Golden Gate Park this past weekend, he was actually quite good, playing piano, guitar and singing. Very engaged with the crowd as well, a real down to earth sort of person, hopefully he'll return next year.

His website -> http://hughlaurieblues.com/

I didn't see what FOX aired last night then the scheduled MLB game was canceled due to weather... but hope the shows on Sunday night were not new episodes.

Meanwhile, my EPG never updated tonight... but I see instead of Terra Nova and House we seem to be having a baseball game on (the one postponed from yesterday)...

So... the million dollar question is... does that mean FOX is pushing this week's Terra Nova/House episodes to next week or what?

Anyone hear?

I didn't see what FOX aired last night then the scheduled MLB game was canceled due to weather... but hope the shows on Sunday night were not new episodes.

Meanwhile, my EPG never updated tonight... but I see instead of Terra Nova and House we seem to be having a baseball game on (the one postponed from yesterday)...

So... the million dollar question is... does that mean FOX is pushing this week's Terra Nova/House episodes to next week or what?

Anyone hear?

Terra Nova just started (8:53 Eastern). During the game, the announcers said both TN and House would show in their entirety, so House should start an hour from now. (Unless of course Fox changes their mind.)

I liked House's new team tonight.

Terra Nova just started (8:53 Eastern). During the game, the announcers said both TN and House would show in their entirety, so House should start an hour from now. (Unless of course Fox changes their mind.)

Announcing during the game that the shows will air in their entirety doesn't help anyone who captured/recorded Terra Nova/House for viewing later (East/Central viewers).

That was a stupid frakin' decision by Fox. One of many that they do.

Announcing during the game that the shows will air in their entirety doesn't help anyone who captured/recorded Terra Nova/House for viewing later (East/Central viewers).

That was a stupid frakin' decision by Fox. One of many that they do.

100% agree to that.

I was home watching MNF and knew to check in on FOX to see how it was going... but if I wasn't home I would have been screwed because the EPG never updated to show that they were even airing baseball tonight.

I hate it when networks do stuff like that. I don't mind them pre-empting a show for a playoff game, even though I don't like baseball... but they need to move the shows out in advance so timers can be fixed OR they need to pre-empt until next week and go from there.

I missed an episode of Bones a couple of years ago for this reason because I wasn't home to manually correct.

100% agree to that.

I was home watching MNF and knew to check in on FOX to see how it was going... but if I wasn't home I would have been screwed because the EPG never updated to show that they were even airing baseball tonight.

I hate it when networks do stuff like that. I don't mind them pre-empting a show for a playoff game, even though I don't like baseball... but they need to move the shows out in advance so timers can be fixed OR they need to pre-empt until next week and go from there.

I missed an episode of Bones a couple of years ago for this reason because I wasn't home to manually correct.

it's not FOX's fault that the game the day before was rained out...they did the best they could...plus they allotted enough time for the game but it happened to go extra innings which is what caused the delays for Terra Nova and House

you're not going to get real time Guide updates from any cable provider...there are some instances where acts of God force unscheduled interruptions...anytime there is a sporting event on before a scheduled program there is a risk of runover

Nice. I missed this episode because, guess what, I wasn't home. :(

it's not FOX's fault that the game the day before was rained out...

No, but it is Fox's fault that they choose to screw over their regular viewers in order to air (or not air, or partially air, or delay indefinitely) a namby-pamby game where so-called "atheletes" apparently can't play sit on their ass, spit, or grab their crotch for countless hours on end because they're scared to death over a few drops of rain or a gust of wind up their skirts.

I expected them to play Wilson's lost friendship longer than just this single episode and was surprised they simply wrapped it up with a single punch at the end and let's go get dinner. I have no idea whether this new 'team' will last or be incorporated into the old team, but the girl playing the part is occasionally difficult to understand with that squeaky voice and fast delivery.

i can't wait to see how house will retake his team room :D

I think its a device to cut costs. I read somewhere with the ratings drop they needed to cut the budget by having the main actors except house skip a few episodes.
The new people are cheap and probably wont their the whole season either.

This new austerity has gotten me interested in the show again, but it looks like they will just get back the same boring old ensemble after a while. If they could only get the courage to try something new. Charlyne Yi could be a real asset, but most likely they will dump her after a few shows.

I would like to see them change House for a change. I really am getting tired of him being an A*hole to everybody. He doesn't have to all sweet but it would be nice to move the focus off of him.

it's not FOX's fault that the game the day before was rained out...they did the best they could...plus they allotted enough time for the game but it happened to go extra innings which is what caused the delays for Terra Nova and House

you're not going to get real time Guide updates from any cable provider...there are some instances where acts of God force unscheduled interruptions...anytime there is a sporting event on before a scheduled program there is a risk of runover

A game that runs long is entirely different than one that was never advertised to air in the first place.

We deal with games that run over all the time... and know to pad recordings to be safe.

BUT... when they have a rain-out and decide to air the game the next night they really should cancel the new episodes and move them to the following week.

As you said, the EPG updates are hard to do last-minute... so they virtually ensure that most people won't be able to adjust this surprise change.

Thus... the smarter option is to just skip this week and air some repeats... People will come home to part of a baseball game and some repeats that they don't want... and won't be pissed because they missed a new episode of their favorite show.

AND... at some point down the line when FOX was going to air a repeat, they now will have another new episode to air since the schedule will shift ahead a week.

So...

Game on, programs on, game runs late... that's fine.

BUT

Game surprise, programs on but later airing with no warning... that's not fine... and when they lose viewers, some of these viewers will just cut and run and won't tune in next week either. It could kill a new show like Terra Nova when folks figure "oh well, I missed that so no point watching anymore"...

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I agree-they should not have aired new episodes. Seems like common sense unless this would somehow screw up the fall schedule.

I watched ep2 using http://videos.freestream-tv.biz/watch-house-season-8-episode-2-transplant/395. Finally House gets a punch to the jaw.

I watched ep2 using http://videos.freestream-tv.biz/watch-house-season-8-episode-2-transplant/395. Finally House gets a punch to the jaw.

House has been punched numerous times, just not by Wilson. The half-sawed cane trick was probably my favorite House/Wilson moment in the history of the show, however. :)

Announcing during the game that the shows will air in their entirety doesn't help anyone who captured/recorded Terra Nova/House for viewing later (East/Central viewers).

That was a stupid frakin' decision by Fox. One of many that they do.

Agreed, my house timer caught 45mins or so of Terra nova and 15 of house. . Fox should have shown reruns and then kept those new shows for next week. Showing reruns isnt a problem.

Agreed, my house timer caught 45mins or so of Terra nova and 15 of house. . Fox should have shown reruns and then kept those new shows for next week. Showing reruns isnt a problem.What percentage of the nation had sports broadcasts which ran over immediately before House aired?

What percentage of the nation had sports broadcasts which ran over immediately before House aired? Only the East time zone, I caught all of Terra Nova from my Mtn. time zone local ... (watched House from my west distant, wasn't home till late)

I'm on the west coast and there was no interference with the evening's programming. Of course, prime time starts 3 hours after it does in eastern and central time zones.

So, you delay the broadcast of the show in at least half of the country until next week because the game running over might have interfered with people recording it (the advertisers' favorite folks :D) in some part of the other half?

We in the Central time zone have always gotten screwed by the east coast knuckleheads. ;)

We in the Central time zone have always gotten screwed by the east coast knuckleheads. ;)We on the west coast never get to see any nationally televised awards event "live", though almost all of them are filmed here, they start at 5 or 6 PM so that they'll start airing live at 8 or 9 PM on the east coast (7 or 8 in central) and we see them with a 3 hour delay :rolleyes:. (I'm rarely interested in stuff like that but it still pisses me off for some reason :D).

House has been punched numerous times, just not by Wilson. The half-sawed cane trick was probably my favorite House/Wilson moment in the history of the show, however. :)
That was easily my favorite as well, it was perfect! :D
We on the west coast never get to see any nationally televised awards event "live", though almost all of them are filmed here, they start at 5 or 6 PM so that they'll start airing live at 8 or 9 PM on the east coast (7 or 8 in central) and we see them with a 3 hour delay :rolleyes:. (I'm rarely interested in stuff like that but it still pisses me off for some reason :D).

Like the Olympics, that's probably my biggest annoyance about east/west airtimes.

Understandable when you consider there are far more viewers in the east than in the west. Still quite annoying though.

I'm on the west coast and there was no interference with the evening's programming. Of course, prime time starts 3 hours after it does in eastern and central time zones.

So, you delay the broadcast of the show in at least half of the country until next week because the game running over might have interfered with people recording it (the advertisers' favorite folks :D) in some part of the other half?

That's always the case... because of the way the earth spins, it really is the only way to do things... IF they had "live" primetime on the west coast then it would be 11pm on the east coast... so whether fair or not, they kind of have to set things on the east coast.

While it may seem unfair to postpone an unaffected west coast while doing it for the east coast... there isn't another clean way to handle it... it is far easier to just postpone the whole thing for everyone than to try and keep track and have east/west coast on different weeks.

Personally, I don't like baseball at all... so if I voted just for my concerns, I would say screw baseball entirely :) But, since I'm not that kind of guy... I say go ahead with the baseball, but pull the episodes for everyone so that way nobody misses anything.

While it may seem unfair to postpone an unaffected west coast while doing it for the east coast... there isn't another clean way to handle it... it is far easier to just postpone the whole thing for everyone than to try and keep track and have east/west coast on different weeks.Only if you plan to do it that way in the first place. Deciding to postpone it dynamicallly because the game ran long is a lot different--advertisers who paid top dollar for spots on a first run episode of a prime time show would not be happy. As I understand it, they ran the evening's programming in its entirety in the eastern half of the country--it's just the people who decided to timeshift it who were screwed.

Here in the Mtn zone we get stuff 2 hours delayed, but our normal primetime hours start at 7 pm and ending at 10 pm, getting distants from both coasts as well as my locals give me many options to catch programs... even the evening news broadcasts are 1 hour delayed. Fox should have contingency plans for rain outs of play-offs etc. I was lucky I thought about House Monday night or I would have missed.

We on the west coast never get to see any nationally televised awards event "live", though almost all of them are filmed here, they start at 5 or 6 PM so that they'll start airing live at 8 or 9 PM on the east coast (7 or 8 in central) and we see them with a 3 hour delay :rolleyes:. (I'm rarely interested in stuff like that but it still pisses me off for some reason :D).

Heck, I'd give up TV if I could afford to live in San Diego. :)

But then if I gave up TV, I might be able to afford it. :eek:

Only if you plan to do it that way in the first place. Deciding to postpone it dynamicallly because the game ran long is a lot different--advertisers who paid top dollar for spots on a first run episode of a prime time show would not be happy. As I understand it, they ran the evening's programming in its entirety in the eastern half of the country--it's just the people who decided to timeshift it who were screwed.

You're missing something, though.

This wasn't a game that ran long... This was a game that was supposed to be played the night before!

I would be with you if it was a scheduled game that ran long... because everyone can prepare for a possible long-run game and extend timers...

That's not what happened Monday.

Monday was a make-up game for a canceled game from Sunday... so nobody that wasn't home had a shot at fixing their timers because the schedule had regular programming on, and nothing about a game.

So... we are talking apples vs oranges.

On Sunday when football runs long, we all live with delays on the east coast. It bites, but we deal with it... because we know it is likely.

But when a game from Sunday is rescheduled to Monday and then that game runs long... there's no way for east coast viewers to easily adapt to that situation.

That's the key difference here why they should have just moved everything back a week once the game ran long.

FYI... tonight has a scheduled game that was weather delayed... but still played tonight, several hours late... and tonight FOX is going to cancel X-Factor on east and west coasts instead of airing it way late on the east coast. This is the decision that should have been made Monday. I am hoping this means FOX learned something.

FYI... tonight has a scheduled game that was weather delayed... but still played tonight, several hours late... and tonight FOX is going to cancel X-Factor on east and west coasts instead of airing it way late on the east coast. This is the decision that should have been made Monday. I am hoping this means FOX learned something.

I do not watch X Factor, nor do a I care about such programming. But, you are correct in that Fox should have done the same thing on Monday, instead of being the A-holes they normally are.

Fox will NEVER learn from this. :mad:

I do not watch X Factor, nor do a I care about such programming. But, you are correct in that Fox should have done the same thing on Monday, instead of being the A-holes they normally are.

Fox will NEVER learn from this. :mad:

How are they *******s? That makes no sense. CBS' Sunday night programming is consistently running at least 30 minutes behind. I'm sure Fox had a reason why they didn't wait to air it the following week. It's not that big of a deal so stop bitching.

CBS' Sunday night programming is consistently running at least 30 minutes behind. I'm sure Fox had a reason why they didn't wait to air it the following week. It's not that big of a deal so stop bitching.

Apples and oranges. Sunday delays are a given. Delays during weekday primetime programming is not.

It is a big deal.

Ratings these days depend on PVR/DVR replays. The fact that there won't be any House PVR/DVR numbers will not make advertisers happy.

Fox are A-holes because they never learn from this crap. Remember Idol going long and screwing up programming that followed?

Can't believe how fast House got out of Jail, and how his whole team is gone.

I'm glad House and Wilson made up. Wilson is the only friend House has.

I'm surprised Wilson's girlish punch was able to knock House down... :D

I think this season is going to be interesting (at least "13" is back). Can't wait to see next week's episode.

Goodness that new hot girl's got some clear skin! :D

...and Please for the luv'a'God, Olivia, eat some cheeseburgers!!!

new hot girl is gonna help me forget about 13

Enjoyable season so far. The Charlie's Angels joke was good. Not having Cuddy around is refreshing and keeps House focused on the plot/patient. Foreman does a nice job as the boss without to much self-righteousness.

Hope they kill-off Taub. Maybe have him be decapitated in the lab next door by a bonesaw Dr. Chi Park has sabotaged.

Excellent episode...well acted...great script on the issue of altruism vs selfishness. Seems to me House abides by the Virtue of Selfishness (authored by Ayne Rand). Loved the oblique reference to Greece.

"Do you want me to wear them while you masterbate?" :eek:

One of the best lines ever, given who said it.

"You know I punched the last person that pissed me off?"

"Was it Santa?"

LOVING the new team and the banter between them! :)

Thirteen is hot, kinda sad to see she's not going to be a regular any longer. The Asian is annoying.

The show's actually fun again. Hasn't been for many years now.

"Do you want me to wear them while you masterbate?" :eek:

One of the best lines ever, given who said it.

"You know I punched the last person that pissed me off?"

"Was it Santa?"

LOVING the new team and the banter between them! :)

Echo virus.... virus... virus... :D

The show's actually fun again. Hasn't been for many years now.

My thoughts too. I was about to give up on it for its (supposed) last year.

Thirteen is hot, kinda sad to see she's not going to be a regular any longer. The Asian is annoying.

Olivia is beautiful and I think I see more acting going on, but for me she is coma-inducing. Charlyne is supposed to be annoying.

I agree, I think the Asian girl is hilarious.

Geez I had to do a Forums search to get this thread back up top!

Did nobody get a kick out of House's antics this week then just want to smack him silly for the way he treated HOT new Dr.???

wilson: "what $5,000?" :D

I agree, I think the Asian girl is hilarious.

She kind of has an understated sarcasm. House is in your face with his sarcasm... she mutters it almost as an afterthought.

Good example is this week... when House sits down and tries to eat the other Doctor's burger... and she says "I have hepatitis"...

Then he decides to try Asian-girl's burger... and she casually adds "she got it from me"...

It works.

wilson: "what $5,000?" :D

That was a good payoff to a throwaway line from earlier... when House was explaining how much money he invested and casually mentioned having "stole" $5000 from Wilson...

The punchline, then, was giving Wilson a check... which says to all of us that House really did steal money from Wilson like he had earlier casually dropped.

House pushed the line a little to much lately, but I still enjoy the show. The hot new doctor doesn't hurt either. :)